[Elecraft] Feature Request: improved internal keyer and CW PTT behavior

[Kevin]

Using the Winkey is not a requirement. It's just a much better keyer 
than the Elecraft keyer.
One chip and some extraneous parts...problem gone.


On 2/14/2017 9:53 AM, Chester Alderman wrote:
> First, I admit to not understanding the problem! I do run QSK and VOX during
> contest and during regular QRQ QSO's. With my K3/Alpha 9500 setup, I can run
> full QSK CW up to 100 wpm and I have no PTT delay issues? I do not run with
> PTT asserted and therefore I do not witness the issues other contesters
> have.. As for N1MM's "poorly designed internal K3 keyer logic", I certainly
> have to disagree with that comment. During 'normal' contest I operate from
> 28 to 40 wpm, full QSK and would go nuts if there were any perturbations
> with my K3's keying.
>
> A so called 'solution' to CW stuttering is to purchase and use the K1EL
> keyer. The real problem is with Windows op system wherein the CPU is often
> interrupted to do 'internal chores'; and when this happens, all I/O ports
> are shut down, which causes the CW stutter. Simply turning off the Windows
> generated sound, eliminates the stutter issue and the 'requirement' to
> purchase the K1EL keyer.
>
> 73,
> Tom - W4BQF
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> donovanf at starpower.net
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 12:53 AM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] Feature Request: improved internal keyer and CW PTT
> behavior
>
> Okay, lets take Eric's lead and open an interesting thread directly related
> to an excellent Elecraft product.
>
>
>
> For years many of us have suffered with the odd behavior of the K3
> in CW PTT mode. There are at least two inexplicble aspects of K3
> CW PTT behavior that have forced many of us to use external
> Winkeyers rather than the poorly designed internal K3 keyer logic
> when the K3 is in CW PTT mode.
>
>
> For CW contesters, its necessary to operate the K3 in PTT mode
> to avoid unwanted VOX delay. But for some strange reason the
> K3 always applies VOX delay after external PTT is unasserted.
> I can think of no logical reason why VOX delay should be applied
> at the end of the external PTT input when the K3 is PTT mode or
> any other mode. When PTT is unasserted, the K3 should always
> immediately return to receive mode, no exceptions.
>
>
> When using the internal K3 keyer when in PTT mode, for some
> inexplicable reason the K3 behaves like its in QSK mode. The
> only way to avoid this is to use VOX rather than PTT mode or
> to use a foot switch when in PTT mode. Both alternatives
> are unacceptable.
>
>
> The band aid solution many contesters use with excellent results
> is to avoid using the internal K3 keyer and to use an external
> K1EL Winkeyer that generates both a key output and a PTT
> signal generated according to well designed Winkeyer CW PTT
> logic.
>
>
> Why can't the K3 implement logic similar to the Winkeyer to
> generate the equivalent of "Winkeyer PTT" when using the K3
> internal keyer when the K3 is in PTT mode?
>
>
> 73
> Frank
> W3LPL
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