[Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 160, Issue 27
Al Hanzl
alhanzl at comcast.net
Sun Aug 20 07:56:24 EDT 2017
Currently On road to Carbondale, Illinois to see totality.
Hoping everyone has a clear view.
73
Al
K2AL
Sent from my iPhone
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> 1. Re: Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead? (GWK)
> 2. Re: Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?
> (Walter Underwood)
> 3. Re: List or Forum (Alan Bee)
> 4. Re: [Elecraft_K3] Eclipse update (Mike Flowers)
> 5. unsubscribing (Ross)
> 6. Re: List or Forum (Bill)
> 7. KAT2 unresponsive (Bob)
> 8. Re: Eclipse update (Logan Zintsmaster)
> 9. Re: List or Forum (Nr4c)
> 10. Re: List or Forum (Wes Stewart)
> 11. Mobile antenna breakthrough? (Wayne Burdick)
> 12. Tuneup, Rescue, Build your K2, K1, KX1, others (Alan D. Wilcox)
> 13. Re: Mobile antenna breakthrough? (Phil Hystad)
> 14. Elecraft CW Net Announcement (kevinr at coho.net)
> 15. Re: KAT2 unresponsive (Don Wilhelm)
> 16. Re: N6KR/7 Eclipse station test, 14060.0 (now) (Matt Zilmer)
> 17. Re: Eclipse update (Fred Jensen)
> 18. Re: Eclipse update (kevinr at coho.net)
> 19. Re: N6KR/7 Eclipse station test, 14060.0 (now) (Ron D'Eau Claire)
> 20. Re: N6KR/7 Eclipse station test, 14060.0 (now) (Wayne Burdick)
> 21. Re: N6KR/7 Eclipse station test, 14060.0 (now) (Wayne Burdick)
> 22. Re: N6KR/7 Eclipse station test, 14060.0 (now) (Albert Winger)
> 23. Re: Mobile antenna breakthrough? (Mike Furrey)
> 24. Re: Mobile antenna breakthrough? (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP)
> 25. Re: Mobile antenna breakthrough? (Fred Jensen)
> 26. Re: Mobile antenna breakthrough? (Doug Smith)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 16:01:32 -0400
> From: GWK <gkidder at ilstu.edu>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum
> instead?
> Message-ID: <7d0af441-f3db-30c3-8f28-d95e60da8df3 at ilstu.edu>
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> Keep the list as at present.? Filter on "Subject = [Elecraft] " will put
> the entire list into a file of your choice.? If we could get everyone to
> include the rig model in their subject line, we could be more specific,
> but of course we probably can't do that.
>
> 73 - George? W3HBM
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 13:28:32 -0700
> From: Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org>
> To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum
> instead?
> Message-ID: <3291858E-22F1-43A5-8CC6-AF21AB4D6AB3 at wunderwood.org>
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> I?m not a big fan of forums, even though I maintained the one used by 5000 engineers at Hewlett-Packard. I don?t mind the e-mail volume at all. On the other hand, I was getting a thousand e-mails a week thirty years ago. The SOTA reflector is a list/forum hybrid where you need to log into the forum to post. It has some advantages, but it isn?t my favorite.
>
> One old mailing list trick is to have separate lists for announcements and for discussion. People who want less traffic could keep up to date by following the announce list.
>
> elecraft-announce would be low-volume and could only be posted to by Elecraft personnel. It would have announcements of new products, special deals, firmware releases, field tester requests, and so on. It might also include information about hamfests Elecraft will attend, requests for people to staff the booth (replies off list enforced), etc.
>
> elecraft-discuss would be like the current list. Elecraft could decide whether to also send announcements to this list. I would be perfectly happy to subscribe to both lists in order to get announcements and discussion.
>
> The IETF uses this convention for mailing lists. You can read more here: https://www.ietf.org/list/ <https://www.ietf.org/list/>
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>
>> On Aug 19, 2017, at 9:32 AM, Dauer, Edward <edauer at law.du.edu> wrote:
>>
>> I agree with Grant and others. There are advantages to a Forum, but I would regret losing the open-textured character of a reflector. I think of it as if it were an OTA net among friends and colleagues and potential friends and colleagues with common interests. Not always very efficient, but a conversational nexus with its own advantages.
>>
>> If I need something very specific there?s always the topical archives. Or a question to the goup.
>>
>> Ted, KN1CBR
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 20:25:24 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Alan Bee <alang0hiq at yahoo.com>
> To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] List or Forum
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> I have no emails, browser mode only, look daily, works well.
> Only downside is I scan list for items of interest, maybe reply so might reply to a thread closed in the last 24 hours having not yet seen the closure notice.If more of us move to browser I guess there could be a couple more excess posts but only 1 days's worth.My 'vote' is keep the list.73? Alan? G0HIQ
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 13:30:56 -0700
> From: Mike Flowers <mike.flowers at gmail.com>
> To: Elecraft_K3 at yahoogroups.com
> Cc: Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>, KX3 <KX3 at yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] Eclipse update
> Message-ID: <2B205DF2-8A3E-4609-91A0-7D1C7F0080C0 at gmail.com>
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> Sitting here in Corvallis now. Stopped by Eugene for a while and traffic not an issue on I-5 or anywhere we went.
>
>
>
> -- Mike Flowers, K6MKF, NCDXC - "It's about DX!"
>
>> On Aug 19, 2017, at 10:43 AM, Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com [Elecraft_K3] <Elecraft_K3 at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> We're our way up I-5 to Corvallis. There's *no* traffic, suggesting that all the gloomy predictions dissuaded some potential travelers.
>>
>> Corvallis webcams showed bright sunshine at 8 this morning. Looking good so far.
>>
>> 20 m was quite active in all band segments yesterday. Most of my QSOs were on SSB running 10 W to the 4' whip. The KX2's auto-notch and filtering helped a lot with QRM.
>>
>> Signing /7 got me more attention than /QRP....
>>
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 20:36:16 +0000
> From: Ross <rbiggar at ihug.co.nz>
> To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] unsubscribing
> Message-ID: <emc6ebc63f-f9bd-499a-b03d-44a51cc542c5 at desktop-dbk22mm>
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> I have tried to unsubscribe, but it obviously did not happen.
> I have sold my K3 so I dont need all the emails.
> Best wishes to the group
> Ross
> ZL1WN
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 16:40:01 -0400
> From: Bill <w2blc at nycap.rr.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] List or Forum
> Message-ID: <89229c42-01a5-ba14-517b-a928af230804 at nycap.rr.com>
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> Works fine the way it is - no extra complications are needed.
>
> Bill W2BLC K-Line
>
>
> --
> Many of life's problems can be solved by simply deciding what
> we can do without. - John Dolan
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 16:42:28 -0400
> From: Bob <solimeno at gmail.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] KAT2 unresponsive
> Message-ID:
> <CAF6nG2UqOVCFzutvRYQUT6wqcSLMEJcqSPQTx3ygsjZK9o4wUg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
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> After doing a re-alignment of my K2 ser. #3218 yesterday I started to play
> on the air and suddenly my KAT2 would no longer tune to my buddipole
> antenna. In fact, the ATU menu is now inaccessible. When entering the menu
> system and selecting the ATU submenu, the only display is "--" while
> rotating the VFO or using Band+/Band- to change menu options.
>
> I removed the KAT2 assembly and looked at all components but did not see
> anything obviously smoked, so I'm at a loss of what might be wrong. The
> tuner was working fine yesterday and earlier today, and then after one
> press of the "Tune" button on the front panel it is no longer functional.
>
> Help appreciated!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Bob Solimeno KC2JAV
>
>
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 17:06:42 -0400
> From: Logan Zintsmaster <lrahnz at garlic.com>
> Cc: Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>, KX3 <KX3 at yahoogroups.com>,
> elecraft_k3 at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Eclipse update
> Message-ID: <EAC143AA-5362-4E10-A9BD-8C822AC27AB7 at garlic.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> We traveled to South Carolina to add in some family time. Drove from Beaufort to Columbia to Anderson (near Clemson). Some traffic around Columbia otherwise smooth sailing. Since you West Coast folks will see it over an hour before us, I'm looking forward to some early first hand reports.
>
> Logan, KZ6O
>
>> On Aug 19, 2017, at 1:43 PM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
>>
>> We're our way up I-5 to Corvallis. There's *no* traffic, suggesting that all the gloomy predictions dissuaded some potential travelers.
>>
>> Corvallis webcams showed bright sunshine at 8 this morning. Looking good so far.
>>
>> 20 m was quite active in all band segments yesterday. Most of my QSOs were on SSB running 10 W to the 4' whip. The KX2's auto-notch and filtering helped a lot with QRM.
>>
>> Signing /7 got me more attention than /QRP....
>>
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 17:21:49 -0400
> From: Nr4c <nr4c at widomaker.com>
> To: Bill <w2blc at nycap.rr.com>
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] List or Forum
> Message-ID: <11BF0191-C701-4F73-9B38-A4B10512EA26 at widomaker.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> God. Will it ever end?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
>> On Aug 19, 2017, at 4:40 PM, Bill <w2blc at nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> Works fine the way it is - no extra complications are needed.
>>
>> Bill W2BLC K-Line
>>
>>
>> --
>> Many of life's problems can be solved by simply deciding what
>> we can do without. - John Dolan
>>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 14:32:34 -0700
> From: Wes Stewart <wes_n7ws at triconet.org>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] List or Forum
> Message-ID: <7d7d5e25-a668-3706-aaa9-d084af9e2d31 at triconet.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> No.
>
>> On 8/19/2017 2:21 PM, Nr4c wrote:
>> God. Will it ever end?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>>
>
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 16:15:43 -0700
> From: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
> To: Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Cc: KX3 <KX3 at yahoogroups.com>, Elecraft_K3 at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Elecraft] Mobile antenna breakthrough?
> Message-ID: <32A112BA-D8C8-4026-BC8F-C9B877B51009 at elecraft.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Some of us (admittedly, very few) see invisible mobile antennas as the holy Grail. We engage in a decades-long search for an antenna that our significant other won't scorn. Or sabotage.
>
> My own search just got an unexpected boost when I realized that a 4 foot loaded whip would fit fully inside the plastic cartop carrier on our Honda CRV. As we speak the whip is resting on a pile of nonconductive pillows and towels. I have yet to measure their dielectric effects. Six feet of coax snakes through the sunroof and is then retained by the passenger-side visor.
>
> The KX2 fits snugly in a dashboard compartment that until this morning held my YL's Bonnie Rait CDs. More on that later if necessary.
>
> I've been listening to the NA QSO party on 20 meters as we drive. Not the best Mobile antenna available, but one step closer to nirvana.
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
> ----
> http://www.elecraft.com
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 20:23:02 -0400
> From: "Alan D. Wilcox" <alan at wilcoxengineering.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Tuneup, Rescue, Build your K2, K1, KX1, others
> Message-ID:
> <156A6ABA-0B39-4598-A5EB-6450ADC8F478 at wilcoxengineering.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Hello,
>
> Have you always wanted an Elecraft? A KX1, K1, K2, whatever?
> I?ll build any of them.
>
> Does your K2 need repair? Tuneup?
>
> In addition to tuning your rig, I can also rescue a building project you might have started some time ago.
>
> See what my clients have said about my construction and service work at
> http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6768
>
> Photos of the popular "Twins" -- the KPA100 and KAT100 in EC2 enclosure -- are at
> http://wilcoxengineering.com/kpa100-in-ec2/
>
> Cheers,
> Alan
>
> Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX (K2-5373, K3-40)
> 570-478-0736 (cell, text)
> http://amazon.com/author/alandwilcox
> Williamsport, PA 17701
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 17:47:13 -0700
> From: Phil Hystad <phystad at mac.com>
> To: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
> Cc: Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>, KX3 <KX3 at yahoogroups.com>,
> Elecraft_K3 at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mobile antenna breakthrough?
> Message-ID: <8FD4F57C-DE38-4D9C-A0D6-9C7EAF1F62EE at mac.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> I can?t believe you still use non-conductive pillows. It is hard to think of you in the same way anymore.
>
> PEH
>
>> On Aug 19, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
>>
>> Some of us (admittedly, very few) see invisible mobile antennas as the holy Grail. We engage in a decades-long search for an antenna that our significant other won't scorn. Or sabotage.
>>
>> My own search just got an unexpected boost when I realized that a 4 foot loaded whip would fit fully inside the plastic cartop carrier on our Honda CRV. As we speak the whip is resting on a pile of nonconductive pillows and towels. I have yet to measure their dielectric effects. Six feet of coax snakes through the sunroof and is then retained by the passenger-side visor.
>>
>> The KX2 fits snugly in a dashboard compartment that until this morning held my YL's Bonnie Rait CDs. More on that later if necessary.
>>
>> I've been listening to the NA QSO party on 20 meters as we drive. Not the best Mobile antenna available, but one step closer to nirvana.
>>
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>> ----
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> Message: 14
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 18:47:08 -0700
> From: "kevinr at coho.net" <kevinr at coho.net>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
> Message-ID: <351f47e2-426e-2f3c-69eb-8838be93d547 at coho.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> Good Evening,
>
> I must have been two or three years old when I first really experienced
> radio.? I was seated high enough so I could see the back of our little
> Emerson radio.? My mom turned it on and I watched the tubes turning
> orange.? The odd sounds of a warming up radio and then music came out.?
> The scent of hot tubes mixed with the smells of my father's
> construction: saw dust and pitch.? Mom told me how the waves in the air
> fed the radio.? DX from all the way across town!? From then on I
> listened to that radio and my brother's shortwave rig all I could.? I
> was hooked.? The magic of waves from the air making music from far away,
> what an adventure.
>
> Please join us tomorrow on:
> ?? 14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday)
> ??? 7045 kHz at 0000z Monday (5 PM PDT Sunday)
>
> ??? 73,
> ??????? Kevin. KD5ONS
>
> -
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 22:01:05 -0400
> From: Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com>
> To: Bob <solimeno at gmail.com>, elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT2 unresponsive
> Message-ID: <fed74686-5024-a9ce-a097-8ec08c5bcc32 at embarqmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
> Bob,
>
> The '--' in the ATU menu means that the KAT2 firmware is not being seen
> by the K2 MCU.
>
> Take a good look at the point where the control cable is attached to the
> KAT2 control board - look for broken wires.
> Do the same for the header that plugs to K2 Control Board P4.
>
> Make certain the header which plugs into K2 Control Board P4 is
> installed correctly - the green wire should be at the top.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> tuner was working fine yesterday and earlier today, and then after one
>> press of the "Tune" button on the front panel it is no longer functional.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 19:23:48 -0700
> From: Matt Zilmer <mzilmer at roadrunner.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] N6KR/7 Eclipse station test, 14060.0 (now)
> Message-ID: <502826cd-9548-638d-81bd-ab3928ebe887 at roadrunner.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> How's the traffic? Reports here are such that you might want to start
> driving around 3 AM local.
>
> 73,
>
> matt, W6NIA
>
>
>> On 08/18/2017 01:35 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Checking out the KX2 and antenna from Ashland. I'll be on until at least 0900Z.
>>
>> Tomorrow we head for Corvallis.
>>
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
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>
> Matt Zilmer, W6NIA
> [Voignier]
>
>
>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 19:35:44 -0700
> From: Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Eclipse update
> Message-ID: <86784084-af2d-3527-f0a3-ee9f85606e10 at foothill.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> First hand very very early report:? Bright sun, very round.?
> Semicircular black disk begins to cover the sun, more and more,
> eventually just a teeny tiny speck of the limb remains and is very
> bright, then night.? Then the video tape runs backwards and it's day
> again.? If clouds, it just gets dark, then day-ish again.? Given the
> physics, they're all exactly alike, and will be for perhaps 600 million
> years when the last one will occur.? Like snowflakes ... seen one you've
> seen 'em all, notwithstanding the urban legend that every one is different.
>
> We'd still have driven to Oregon if it would have worked out. [:-)
>
>
>> On 8/19/2017 2:06 PM, Logan Zintsmaster wrote:
>> We traveled to South Carolina to add in some family time. Drove from Beaufort to Columbia to Anderson (near Clemson). Some traffic around Columbia otherwise smooth sailing. Since you West Coast folks will see it over an hour before us, I'm looking forward to some early first hand reports.
>>
>> Logan, KZ6O
>>
>>> On Aug 19, 2017, at 1:43 PM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> We're our way up I-5 to Corvallis. There's *no* traffic, suggesting that all the gloomy predictions dissuaded some potential travelers.
>>>
>>> Corvallis webcams showed bright sunshine at 8 this morning. Looking good so far.
>>>
>>> 20 m was quite active in all band segments yesterday. Most of my QSOs were on SSB running 10 W to the 4' whip. The KX2's auto-notch and filtering helped a lot with QRM.
>>>
>>> Signing /7 got me more attention than /QRP....
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----
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> Message: 18
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 20:04:36 -0700
> From: "kevinr at coho.net" <kevinr at coho.net>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Eclipse update
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> Make sure to have your old pots and pans ready.? If the eclipse is
> lasting too long you can scare the dragon into spitting out the sun by
> banging on them loudly.? Belt & suspenders for the ECOM folks.
>
> ??? 73,
>
> ???????? Kevin.? KD5ONS
>
>
>> On 8/19/2017 7:35 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>> First hand very very early report:? Bright sun, very round.
>> Semicircular black disk begins to cover the sun, more and more,
>> eventually just a teeny tiny speck of the limb remains and is very
>> bright, then night.? Then the video tape runs backwards and it's day
>> again.? If clouds, it just gets dark, then day-ish again. Given the
>> physics, they're all exactly alike, and will be for perhaps 600
>> million years when the last one will occur.? Like snowflakes ... seen
>> one you've seen 'em all, notwithstanding the urban legend that every
>> one is different.
>>
>> We'd still have driven to Oregon if it would have worked out. [:-)
>>
>>
>>> On 8/19/2017 2:06 PM, Logan Zintsmaster wrote:
>>> We traveled to South Carolina to add in some family time. Drove from
>>> Beaufort to Columbia to Anderson (near Clemson). Some traffic around
>>> Columbia otherwise smooth sailing. Since you West Coast folks will
>>> see it over an hour before us, I'm looking forward to some early
>>> first hand reports.
>>>
>>> Logan, KZ6O
>>>
>>>> On Aug 19, 2017, at 1:43 PM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We're our way up I-5 to Corvallis. There's *no* traffic, suggesting
>>>> that all the gloomy predictions dissuaded some potential travelers.
>>>>
>>>> Corvallis webcams showed bright sunshine at 8 this morning. Looking
>>>> good so far.
>>>>
>>>> 20 m was quite active in all band segments yesterday. Most of my
>>>> QSOs were on SSB running 10 W to the 4' whip. The KX2's auto-notch
>>>> and filtering helped a lot with QRM.
>>>>
>>>> Signing /7 got me more attention than /QRP....
>>>>
>>>> Wayne
>>>> N6KR
>>>>
>>>>
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> Message: 19
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 20:07:08 -0700
> From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <ron at cobi.biz>
> To: "'Matt Zilmer'" <mzilmer at roadrunner.com>,
> <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] N6KR/7 Eclipse station test, 14060.0 (now)
> Message-ID: <002d01d31961$695b2760$3c117620$@biz>
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> So far (it is Saturday evening) the roads here on the coast at Newport are
> quiet for this time of the year. But the Oregon coast is not the easiest
> place to get to anyway. I won't mind if it stays quiet through Monday!
>
> Anyone can check Oregon road conditions and see the road cameras here:
>
> https://www.tripcheck.com/Pages/CCentry.asp
>
> Maybe it is all a "tempest in a teacup".
>
> I suspect Wayne is in the ideal spot for viewing on the East side of the
> coastal mountains and so away from the marine overcast but not so far east
> he gets downwind from some nasty wildfires.
>
> 73, Ron AC7AC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Matt Zilmer
> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 7:24 PM
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] N6KR/7 Eclipse station test, 14060.0 (now)
>
> How's the traffic? Reports here are such that you might want to start
> driving around 3 AM local.
>
> 73,
>
> matt, W6NIA
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 20:12:59 -0700
> From: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
> To: Matt Zilmer <mzilmer at roadrunner.com>
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] N6KR/7 Eclipse station test, 14060.0 (now)
> Message-ID: <6BFB03EA-4F93-4408-B951-17245E5E124F at elecraft.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> We're already in Corvallis!
>
>
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>
>> On Aug 19, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Matt Zilmer <mzilmer at roadrunner.com> wrote:
>>
>> How's the traffic? Reports here are such that you might want to start
>> driving around 3 AM local.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> matt, W6NIA
>>
>>
>>> On 08/18/2017 01:35 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>> Checking out the KX2 and antenna from Ashland. I'll be on until at least 0900Z.
>>>
>>> Tomorrow we head for Corvallis.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
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>>
>> Matt Zilmer, W6NIA
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> Message: 21
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 20:18:12 -0700
> From: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
> To: Ron D'Eau Claire <ron at cobi.biz>
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] N6KR/7 Eclipse station test, 14060.0 (now)
> Message-ID: <1DD4C27F-EE69-40C6-AF89-5D975F9E0A83 at elecraft.com>
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> We're in Corvallis now. Perfect WX.
>
> I'm warming up the KX2 for emcomm and/or entertainment purposes. There's an official beer garden with bluegrass band 100 yards from here, so there may indeed be rescues to assist in.
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
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>
>> On Aug 19, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire <ron at cobi.biz> wrote:
>>
>> So far (it is Saturday evening) the roads here on the coast at Newport are
>> quiet for this time of the year. But the Oregon coast is not the easiest
>> place to get to anyway. I won't mind if it stays quiet through Monday!
>>
>> Anyone can check Oregon road conditions and see the road cameras here:
>>
>> https://www.tripcheck.com/Pages/CCentry.asp
>>
>> Maybe it is all a "tempest in a teacup".
>>
>> I suspect Wayne is in the ideal spot for viewing on the East side of the
>> coastal mountains and so away from the marine overcast but not so far east
>> he gets downwind from some nasty wildfires.
>>
>> 73, Ron AC7AC
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Matt Zilmer
>> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 7:24 PM
>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] N6KR/7 Eclipse station test, 14060.0 (now)
>>
>> How's the traffic? Reports here are such that you might want to start
>> driving around 3 AM local.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> matt, W6NIA
>>
>>
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> Message: 22
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 21:38:20 -0600
> From: Albert Winger <awinger2011 at icloud.com>
> To: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] N6KR/7 Eclipse station test, 14060.0 (now)
> Message-ID: <1890FADC-2733-441F-9D63-7207544B8915 at icloud.com>
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> Arrived in Buford,WY. Very light traffic through Denver. Many more eclipsers due tomorrow. Saw plates from 10 states.
>
> Hope to catch you all on net tomorrow.
>
> 73
> Al
> W1NGA
> Colorado Springs
>
>> On Aug 19, 2017, at 9:18 PM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
>>
>> We're in Corvallis now. Perfect WX.
>>
>> I'm warming up the KX2 for emcomm and/or entertainment purposes. There's an official beer garden with bluegrass band 100 yards from here, so there may indeed be rescues to assist in.
>>
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>> ----
>> http://www.elecraft.com
>>
>>> On Aug 19, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire <ron at cobi.biz> wrote:
>>>
>>> So far (it is Saturday evening) the roads here on the coast at Newport are
>>> quiet for this time of the year. But the Oregon coast is not the easiest
>>> place to get to anyway. I won't mind if it stays quiet through Monday!
>>>
>>> Anyone can check Oregon road conditions and see the road cameras here:
>>>
>>> https://www.tripcheck.com/Pages/CCentry.asp
>>>
>>> Maybe it is all a "tempest in a teacup".
>>>
>>> I suspect Wayne is in the ideal spot for viewing on the East side of the
>>> coastal mountains and so away from the marine overcast but not so far east
>>> he gets downwind from some nasty wildfires.
>>>
>>> 73, Ron AC7AC
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Matt Zilmer
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 7:24 PM
>>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] N6KR/7 Eclipse station test, 14060.0 (now)
>>>
>>> How's the traffic? Reports here are such that you might want to start
>>> driving around 3 AM local.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> matt, W6NIA
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 23
> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 03:50:51 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Mike Furrey <mikefurrey at att.net>
> To: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
> Cc: Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mobile antenna breakthrough?
> Message-ID: <1742847371.945645.1503201051876 at mail.yahoo.com>
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> ?A friend bought a HiQ to put on his own car. His wife took one look at it and said, "OH HELL NO!" It now resides on my pickup.
>
> Stealth and mobile are two words that don't go together.
> 73, Mike WA5POK
>
>
> On Saturday, August 19, 2017 7:49 PM, Phil Hystad <phystad at mac.com> wrote:
>
>
> I can?t believe you still use non-conductive pillows.? It is hard to think of you in the same way anymore.
>
> PEH
>
>> On Aug 19, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
>>
>> Some of us (admittedly, very few) see invisible mobile antennas as the holy Grail. We engage in a decades-long search for an antenna that our significant other won't scorn. Or sabotage.
>>
>> My own search just got an unexpected boost when I realized that a 4 foot loaded whip would fit fully inside the plastic cartop carrier on our Honda CRV. As we speak the whip is resting on a pile of nonconductive pillows and towels. I have yet to measure their dielectric effects. Six feet of coax snakes through the sunroof and is then retained by the passenger-side visor.
>>
>> The KX2 fits snugly in a dashboard compartment that until this morning held my YL's Bonnie Rait CDs. More on that later if necessary.?
>>
>> I've been listening to the NA QSO party on 20 meters as we drive. Not the best Mobile antenna available, but one step closer to nirvana.
>>
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
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> Message: 24
> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 06:52:31 +0300
> From: Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP <k2vco.vic at gmail.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mobile antenna breakthrough?
> Message-ID: <97612dde-8ff6-90f0-52d9-5b191534178c at gmail.com>
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> I wonder if a wire taped around the circumference of the carrier to form
> either a loop or a Moxon-shaped thing and fed in its center might not
> work, if the carrier is non-conductive and contains non-conductive things.
>
> 73,
> Victor, 4X6GP
> Rehovot, Israel
> Formerly K2VCO
> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
>
>> On 20 Aug 2017 02:15, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Some of us (admittedly, very few) see invisible mobile antennas as
>> the holy Grail. We engage in a decades-long search for an antenna
>> that our significant other won't scorn. Or sabotage.
>>
>> My own search just got an unexpected boost when I realized that a 4
>> foot loaded whip would fit fully inside the plastic cartop carrier on
>> our Honda CRV. As we speak the whip is resting on a pile of
>> nonconductive pillows and towels. I have yet to measure their
>> dielectric effects. Six feet of coax snakes through the sunroof and
>> is then retained by the passenger-side visor.
>>
>> The KX2 fits snugly in a dashboard compartment that until this
>> morning held my YL's Bonnie Rait CDs. More on that later if
>> necessary.
>>
>> I've been listening to the NA QSO party on 20 meters as we drive. Not
>> the best Mobile antenna available, but one step closer to nirvana.
>>
>> Wayne N6KR
>>
>> ---- http://www.elecraft.com
>
>
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>
> Message: 25
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 21:21:40 -0700
> From: Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mobile antenna breakthrough?
> Message-ID: <36475cdc-5b2b-bd4a-f550-541ff9ae4234 at foothill.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> My end-fed wire on the wooden fence 1.8 meters AGL works pretty good.? 6
> over 6 over 6 monobanders would do better [by actual test, they do [:-)
> ], but RF current in a non-buried conductor will radiate.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
>
>> On 8/19/2017 8:52 PM, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote:
>> I wonder if a wire taped around the circumference of the carrier to
>> form either a loop or a Moxon-shaped thing and fed in its center might
>> not work, if the carrier is non-conductive and contains non-conductive
>> things.
>>
>> 73,
>> Victor, 4X6GP
>> Rehovot, Israel
>> Formerly K2VCO
>> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
>>
>>> On 20 Aug 2017 02:15, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>> Some of us (admittedly, very few) see invisible mobile antennas as
>>> the holy Grail. We engage in a decades-long search for an antenna
>>> that our significant other won't scorn. Or sabotage.
>>>
>>> My own search just got an unexpected boost when I realized that a 4
>>> foot loaded whip would fit fully inside the plastic cartop carrier on
>>> our Honda CRV. As we speak the whip is resting on a pile of
>>> nonconductive pillows and towels. I have yet to measure their
>>> dielectric effects. Six feet of coax snakes through the sunroof and
>>> is then retained by the passenger-side visor.
>>>
>>> The KX2 fits snugly in a dashboard compartment that until this
>>> morning held my YL's Bonnie Rait CDs. More on that later if
>>> necessary.
>>>
>>> I've been listening to the NA QSO party on 20 meters as we drive. Not
>>> the best Mobile antenna available, but one step closer to nirvana.
>>>
>>> Wayne N6KR
>>>
>>> ---- http://www.elecraft.com
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> Message: 26
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 22:26:47 -0600
> From: Doug Smith <doug at w7kf.com>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mobile antenna breakthrough?
> Message-ID: <51340367-968E-488A-82E2-2072D5E572CE at w7kf.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
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> Yes, I was thinking along the same lines ? that copper ?conductive tape? stuff.
>
> It could be mounted to the outside of the carrier and would look like stylish racing stripes!
>
> http://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/all-3m-products/~/3M-Conductive-Copper-Foil-Tape-3313?N=5002385+3293242553&rt=rud <http://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/all-3m-products/~/3M-Conductive-Copper-Foil-Tape-3313?N=5002385+3293242553&rt=rud>
>
> https://www.kaptontape.com/Copper_Conductive_Tapes.php <https://www.kaptontape.com/Copper_Conductive_Tapes.php>
>
> 73,
> Doug, W7KF
>
>
>> On Aug 19, 2017, at 9:52 PM, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP <k2vco.vic at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I wonder if a wire taped around the circumference of the carrier to form either a loop or a Moxon-shaped thing and fed in its center might not work, if the carrier is non-conductive and contains non-conductive things.
>>
>> 73,
>> Victor, 4X6GP
>> Rehovot, Israel
>> Formerly K2VCO
>> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
>
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