Another great tool to determine a locator or the distance between 2 locators is: http://qthlocator.free.fr by F6FVY It uses google maps. Just enter a known locator or click on a known location (e.g. your house) and voila. Maybe it is one of the fathers of that sort of tools. I've first seen it 12/2006. -- Ohne CW ist es nur CB.. 73, Martin DM4iM