[Elecraft] OT: Package shippers

[Rick Tavan]

Thanks, Lynn! That's a much more cogent explanation than I was able to
extract from either UPS or USPS the time it happened to me.

Ironically, that event ended up in my favor. Although I had to re-order my
goods with a different destination, the price dropped in the meantime and I
saved quite a lot of money. Not something one can count on, though!

73,

/Rick N6XI

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT <
KX3.1 at coldrockshotbrooms.com> wrote:

> This is a UPS "service" that has a lower service commitment and a lower
> price than "UPS Brown."
>
> It takes advantage of "consolidator" rates, with UPS delivering pre-sorted
> packages to a hub Post Office for final delivery.
>
> FedEx has a similar service.
>
> E-Commerce and mail order companies love these services because they're
> cheap, but the typical customer service agent doesn't know the difference
> between "UPS Brown" (delivery by UPS) and the cheaper UPS to USPS service.
>
> Since the agent (or the website) thinks they're shipping standard Ground,
> they insist on a "real" address.  The company then uses the cheaper
> service, the package hits the post office and goes back to the shipper.
>
> I've had good luck with the work-arounds in your post.  I usually put
> things like m/s 9999 in the "company" field because some shippers
> "standardize" addresses, and the company name is usually unedited.
>
> If you specify "UPS Brown" and the shipper follows instructions, you'll
> get the package from UPS, not through the Post Office.
>
> This cheaper service is only available to larger shippers.  It's not
> available to consumers.
>
> 73 -- Lynn
>
> On 4/26/2017 11:13 AM, Rick Tavan wrote:
>
>> The radio world seems to be converging on your opinion, Ken. Almost all
>> packages I've received in the past few years have come via UPS and I use
>> it
>> myself for my occasional outbound shipments. That being said, there is a
>> disturbing relationship between UPS and USPS: In some rural areas, and
>> maybe elsewhere, UPS can hand off a package for ultimate delivery by USPS.
>>
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Rick Tavan
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