[Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

[Luis V. Romero]

I will then restate my opinion:  

I and just about EVERYONE I have personally dealt with in my professional
experience with broadcast booths for recording voice over, technical
intercom, IFB feeds, musical talent and singers prefer to have SYNCHRONOUS
VOICE sidetone in their ears.  Remember last New Year's Show on ABC-TV?  The
non singing Mariah Carey?  She had clean mix minus in the floor monitors,
but no earpiece sidetone feed :)  

But there are exceptions.  You may be one of them.

Ever watch a TV liveshot where the person on camera yanks out their
earphone?  They are probably being fed DELAYED audio over the IFB.  That's a
really bad thing!  Some delay is acceptable, and some on camera talent are
very good with filtering out the delay.  Most cannot. This has become a
nightmare now in Digital transmission with the added latency introduced by
modulation codecs. Gone forever are the days of feeding main channel with
IFB over ProChannel or 450MHz BAS transmitters (although there are still
some stations out there that do this... Its "traditional").

And I will agree with you on HT carrying hams.  Especially Digital
Modulation ones.  There is copious processing delay with Digital Modulation.
That would drive most people mad!

I can sense the K3 delay when listening to my processing in my rig's
monitor. I find it within my window of manageability and I like to hear
sidetone in my headset as I have been accustomed to by 41 years of using
headsets over RTS/Clearcom/Riedell intercom in broadcast control rooms,
never on speaker.  I could live without it...  But I prefer to have it.  

However, I can also see 2 frames of video to audio delay... It's a curse,
not a blessing in the digital world we live in today.

You mileage obviously varies from mine, Ron!  Viva le difference!

73

Lu - W4LT
  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron D'Eau Claire [mailto:ron at cobi.biz]
> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 6:52 PM
> To: lromero56 at tampabay.rr.com; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request
> 
> With respect, it's all what you have grown accustomed to. The AM and FM
> stations where I worked only had a speaker in the booth over which the DJ
> heard audio from the disk on the turntable or rare network feed. He/she
> never heard their own voice.
> 
> Same was true in aircraft and military radio comms. And I doubt if many
Hams
> today carrying an HT are disturbed by not hearing their own voices.
> 
> Sidetone in telephones was used to keep the person speaking from shouting
> (as they did in early phones). The higher the sidetone volume, the quieter
> the person would speak. We used that to great effect to tame a "shouter"
in
> bull-pen office environments. Unfortunately mobile (cellular) phones offer
> no such benefit.
> 
> My point is that I suspect that you are tapping into a change in
recording,
> broadcast and DJ work that is beginning to impact Ham operations.
> 
> 73, Ron AC7AC
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Luis
> V. Romero
> Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2017 10:04 AM
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request
> 
> All:
> 
> As a broadcast professional, I completely agree with the need to hear
one's
> voice as side tone in your headset while speaking.  Not hearing this does
> make one feel deaf.  This is a common feature in professional intercom
> systems as well as music performance monitoring for singers and
> instrumentalists and even your telephone!  It's not really a "nice to
have":
> In my opinion, it's a "must have".