From Gary at ka1j.com Sun May 1 00:08:38 2016 From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith) Date: Sun, 01 May 2016 00:08:38 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 60 meter band not seen - solved In-Reply-To: <57257B83.17275.FBD45F5@Gary.ka1j.com> References: <572579B6.9275.FB63D5C@Gary.ka1j.com>, <57257B83.17275.FBD45F5@Gary.ka1j.com> Message-ID: <57258146.21163.FD3C6C2@Gary.ka1j.com> Folks, Thanks to helpful replies off-list, the answer lies in the band map option in Config, something I have never used but works well. Thank you, 73, Gary KA1J > Folks a typo in my original subject line; The subject line should > read 60 meter band not seen, not the 80 meter band. > > sorry, > > Gary > KA1J > > > Folks, > > > > I'm at the final stages of readying a K3 for a friend. I've gone > > through every thing I can think of to be sure it is working > > perfectly. It has all the updates and upgrades available, and it > > seemed to be working perfectly. That is, till I noticed the 60M is > > not showing up when changing bands. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gary at ka1j.com > From mzilmer at roadrunner.com Sun May 1 00:20:51 2016 From: mzilmer at roadrunner.com (Matt Zilmer) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 21:20:51 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 60 meter band not seen In-Reply-To: <57257B83.17275.FBD45F5@Gary.ka1j.com> References: <572579B6.9275.FB63D5C@Gary.ka1j.com> <57257B83.17275.FBD45F5@Gary.ka1j.com> Message-ID: <2061bd90-5e2b-b581-d522-758a03016906@roadrunner.com> Try checking the BND MAP settings. 73, Matt, W6NIA On 4/30/2016 8:44 PM, Gary Smith wrote: > Folks a typo in my original subject line; The subject line should > read 60 meter band not seen, not the 80 meter band. > > sorry, > > Gary > KA1J > >> Folks, >> >> I'm at the final stages of readying a K3 for a friend. I've gone >> through every thing I can think of to be sure it is working >> perfectly. It has all the updates and upgrades available, and it >> seemed to be working perfectly. That is, till I noticed the 60M is >> not showing up when changing bands. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to mzilmer at roadrunner.com -- Always store beer in a dark place. - R. Heinlein From mwdink at yahoo.com Sun May 1 00:27:34 2016 From: mwdink at yahoo.com (Michael Dinkelman) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 04:27:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] N1MM, KX3, and KXPA100 References: <1992147432.5817338.1462076854945.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1992147432.5817338.1462076854945.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I've borrowed a KX3 and KXPA100 for the 7QP, going mobile. I plan to use N1MM for logging, keying, and frequency control. I can get N1MM to talk to the KX3. I can get N1MM to talk to the KX3 through the KXPA100 daisy chained serial connection. However, whenever I talk through to the KX3 through the KXPA100, the PA gets turned off. If I turn it back on, it gets turned back off. I can't find any clues in the manuals and I can't find any clues on a search of the net. Someone must be using N1MM to talk to the KX3/KXPA100 combo. Can someone give me any ideas of what I am doing wrong? cheers dink, n7wa From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Sun May 1 00:40:34 2016 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 07:40:34 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] K3: Main RX gone deaf In-Reply-To: <57252A43.6050209@dk5ya.de> References: <571D2420.7090900@dk5ya.de> <571E3D20.2000303@g3tct.co.uk> <571E77DD.4090005@dk5ya.de> <57252A43.6050209@dk5ya.de> Message-ID: <36B5FB73-6337-4485-876A-9BBAA46DCF5A@gmail.com> I would suspect one of the relays in the path from the antenna, through the RX ant switching circuitry. Then there are the diodes in the t/r switch. If you have verified that the RX is working, it must have something to do with the path from the antenna. Does it transmit OK? The lowpass filters are in the main RX path, I think. Vic 4X6GP > On 1 May 2016, at 12:57 AM, Udo Langenohl - DK5YA wrote: > > Gents, > > I had another test session today with my K3 and here's what I've done and what happened: > > 1. I've checked all the test points recommended by Elecraft. No issue found, all stages are working, there's noise increasing on each test point at the Main RX. > > 2. Fired up my signal generator again and started on the Main RX with a signal on the following frequencies and with these results: > > Filter settings: 2.7KHz > Preamp off > Att: no > Signal strength: -63 dBm > Mode: USB > > 28.130 = S6 > 21.130 = S6 > 18.130 = S4 > 14.130 = S2 (!!) > 10.130 = S4 > 7.130 = S8 (!!) > 3.513 = S6 > > Same settings at the Sub RX (via AUX IN): > > 28.130 = S9+5 > 21.130 = S9+10 > 18.130 = S9+10 > 14.130 = S9+10 > 10.130 = S9+5 > 7.130 = S9+10 > 3.513 = S9+10 > > You will see that there are dramatic differences at the Main RX from band to band and from S2 (14 MHz) up to S8 (7 MHz). And of course when comparing Main RX with Sub RX. Also tried different filter settings (AM, CW), no change. > > I have no idea what is happening here and what to do next. > > 73 Udo, DK5YA > > >> Am 25.04.2016 um 22:02 schrieb Udo Langenohl - DK5YA: >> Gentleman, >> >> thanks for all so many replies. Will try to check all ideas tomorrow, >> XYL permitting ... ;-). >> >> 73 Udo, DK5YA >> >> P.S.: The issue occurs at the RX IN and TVTR IN ports of the KXV3A too. >> >>> Am 25.04.2016 um 17:57 schrieb Jerry: >>> Reseat the internal coax jumpers in the surf signal path. >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Apr 25, 2016, at 11:52 AM, Graham g3tct wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Udo >>>> Before you start tearing the rig apart, two ideas:- >>>> >>>> -is there a big difference for weak signals of say S4? >>>> -if not, it may just be the S meter calibration that needs attention. >>>> -if so, preamp on for either? Att on for main? >>>> >>>> HTH >>>> Graham >>>> >>>>> On 19:59, Udo Langenohl - DK5YA wrote: >>>>> Gentleman, >>>>> >>>>> I'm struggling with a Main RX vs. Sub RX issue. My Main RX is rather >>>>> deaf compared to the Sub RX. I see at least 23.5dB attenuation >>>>> between Main RX and Sub RX when comparing highly stable signals from >>>>> my signal generator (HP8664A). This is only for ANT1/2 vs. AUX-IN! >>>>> Example: >>>>> -33dBm on 28.500 >>>>> into AUX-IN (SUB RX): exactly 59 +40dB >>>>> into ANT 1 (Main RX): 59 +15dB >>>>> into ANT 2 (Main RX): 59 +15dB >>>>> >>>>> I've checked all the usual suspects (pin diodes): >>>>> D1 and D5 on the KXV3A: o.k. >>>>> Each and every pin diode on the SUB IN board: o.k. >>>>> D5 on the Main RX board: o.k. >>>>> >>>>> This is a K3 #59xx with almost everything inside money can buy. >>>>> >>>>> My second K3 (serial #39xx) does not show this strange behavior. >>>>> Main RX and SUB RX show exactly the same values on ANT1/2 and AUX >>>>> IN. -33dBm is 59+40 on MAIN and SUB RX, no matter if Ant1, 2 or AUX IN. >>>>> >>>>> Any idea? I'm searching for weeks now and I'm close to give up. >>>>> >>>>> Udo, DK5YA >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to jermo at carolinaheli.com > > -- > ****************************************** > Webs by DK5YA: * > http://www.mmmonvhf.de/ [editor]* > http://www.vhfdx.de/ [owner] * > http://www.palekastro.de/ [owner] * > http://www.solweb.de/ [owner] * > http://www.spessartwetter.de/ [owner] * > ****************************************** > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2vco.vic at gmail.com From dk5ya at dk5ya.de Sun May 1 05:01:43 2016 From: dk5ya at dk5ya.de (Udo Langenohl - DK5YA) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 11:01:43 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] K3: Main RX gone deaf In-Reply-To: <36B5FB73-6337-4485-876A-9BBAA46DCF5A@gmail.com> References: <571D2420.7090900@dk5ya.de> <571E3D20.2000303@g3tct.co.uk> <571E77DD.4090005@dk5ya.de> <57252A43.6050209@dk5ya.de> <36B5FB73-6337-4485-876A-9BBAA46DCF5A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7abf7274-3410-6803-bede-a06467c832f6@dk5ya.de> Vic, TX works perfect, it's just a RX issue. The pin diodes are all o.k., my guess: a relay has gone crazy in the switching circuitry. Or it's a low pass filter issue. Will investigate in these parts now. 73 Udo, DK5YA Am 01.05.2016 um 06:40 schrieb Vic Rosenthal: > I would suspect one of the relays in the path from the antenna, through the RX ant switching circuitry. Then there are the diodes in the t/r switch. > If you have verified that the RX is working, it must have something to do with the path from the antenna. > Does it transmit OK? The lowpass filters are in the main RX path, I think. > > Vic 4X6GP > >> On 1 May 2016, at 12:57 AM, Udo Langenohl - DK5YA wrote: >> >> Gents, >> >> I had another test session today with my K3 and here's what I've done and what happened: >> >> 1. I've checked all the test points recommended by Elecraft. No issue found, all stages are working, there's noise increasing on each test point at the Main RX. >> >> 2. Fired up my signal generator again and started on the Main RX with a signal on the following frequencies and with these results: >> >> Filter settings: 2.7KHz >> Preamp off >> Att: no >> Signal strength: -63 dBm >> Mode: USB >> >> 28.130 = S6 >> 21.130 = S6 >> 18.130 = S4 >> 14.130 = S2 (!!) >> 10.130 = S4 >> 7.130 = S8 (!!) >> 3.513 = S6 >> >> Same settings at the Sub RX (via AUX IN): >> >> 28.130 = S9+5 >> 21.130 = S9+10 >> 18.130 = S9+10 >> 14.130 = S9+10 >> 10.130 = S9+5 >> 7.130 = S9+10 >> 3.513 = S9+10 >> >> You will see that there are dramatic differences at the Main RX from band to band and from S2 (14 MHz) up to S8 (7 MHz). And of course when comparing Main RX with Sub RX. Also tried different filter settings (AM, CW), no change. >> >> I have no idea what is happening here and what to do next. >> >> 73 Udo, DK5YA >> >> >>> Am 25.04.2016 um 22:02 schrieb Udo Langenohl - DK5YA: >>> Gentleman, >>> >>> thanks for all so many replies. Will try to check all ideas tomorrow, >>> XYL permitting ... ;-). >>> >>> 73 Udo, DK5YA >>> >>> P.S.: The issue occurs at the RX IN and TVTR IN ports of the KXV3A too. >>> >>>> Am 25.04.2016 um 17:57 schrieb Jerry: >>>> Reseat the internal coax jumpers in the surf signal path. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>> On Apr 25, 2016, at 11:52 AM, Graham g3tct wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Udo >>>>> Before you start tearing the rig apart, two ideas:- >>>>> >>>>> -is there a big difference for weak signals of say S4? >>>>> -if not, it may just be the S meter calibration that needs attention. >>>>> -if so, preamp on for either? Att on for main? >>>>> >>>>> HTH >>>>> Graham >>>>> >>>>>> On 19:59, Udo Langenohl - DK5YA wrote: >>>>>> Gentleman, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm struggling with a Main RX vs. Sub RX issue. My Main RX is rather >>>>>> deaf compared to the Sub RX. I see at least 23.5dB attenuation >>>>>> between Main RX and Sub RX when comparing highly stable signals from >>>>>> my signal generator (HP8664A). This is only for ANT1/2 vs. AUX-IN! >>>>>> Example: >>>>>> -33dBm on 28.500 >>>>>> into AUX-IN (SUB RX): exactly 59 +40dB >>>>>> into ANT 1 (Main RX): 59 +15dB >>>>>> into ANT 2 (Main RX): 59 +15dB >>>>>> >>>>>> I've checked all the usual suspects (pin diodes): >>>>>> D1 and D5 on the KXV3A: o.k. >>>>>> Each and every pin diode on the SUB IN board: o.k. >>>>>> D5 on the Main RX board: o.k. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is a K3 #59xx with almost everything inside money can buy. >>>>>> >>>>>> My second K3 (serial #39xx) does not show this strange behavior. >>>>>> Main RX and SUB RX show exactly the same values on ANT1/2 and AUX >>>>>> IN. -33dBm is 59+40 on MAIN and SUB RX, no matter if Ant1, 2 or AUX IN. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any idea? I'm searching for weeks now and I'm close to give up. >>>>>> >>>>>> Udo, DK5YA >>>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>>> >>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>>> Message delivered to jermo at carolinaheli.com >> >> -- >> ****************************************** >> Webs by DK5YA: * >> http://www.mmmonvhf.de/ [editor]* >> http://www.vhfdx.de/ [owner] * >> http://www.palekastro.de/ [owner] * >> http://www.solweb.de/ [owner] * >> http://www.spessartwetter.de/ [owner] * >> ****************************************** >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k2vco.vic at gmail.com > -- ****************************************** Webs by DK5YA: * http://www.mmmonvhf.de/ [editor]* http://www.vhfdx.de/ [owner] * http://www.palekastro.de/ [owner] * http://www.solweb.de/ [owner] * http://www.spessartwetter.de/ [owner] * ****************************************** From jalleninvest at gmail.com Sun May 1 09:23:47 2016 From: jalleninvest at gmail.com (Jim Allen) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 08:23:47 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 panadapter choices Message-ID: I've been in a very helpful discussion with Don Wilhelm about using my Funcube Dongle Pro Plus in a second receiver/panadapter role with the K2. Don suggests the Clifton Labs Z10000B buffer amplifier, but those aren't available anymore. Does anyone have one of those devices sitting around unused, or know where to find one, or are there any suggestions for alternatives? TIA 73 de W6OGC Jim Allen Sent from my iPad From kh at kh-translation.dk Sun May 1 09:26:30 2016 From: kh at kh-translation.dk (Kjeld Holm) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 15:26:30 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] Procedure: Setting the DSP filters for SSB In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002101d1a3ad$12cd2900$38677b00$@kh-translation.dk> Hi Don, The people talking about High cut and low cut are correct. But in a contest it may be easier just to select Filter width 1500 and Filter shift 750. Vy 73 de OZ1CCM, Kjeld -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of ac2ev at frontier.com Sent: 27. april 2016 23:39 To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Procedure: Setting the DSP filters for SSB One thing on my K3 that's made me wonder if I'm doing it right is how to adjust the various filters and settings to accomplish two things. 1. During contests, how to best adjust to hear the station and not the guy 2.5KHz away 2. When trying to hear the weak DX, not be blasted by that guy from Florida or Texas running a kilowatt. I work SSB only at this point and haven't found any videos that show how to best adjust things. Don Kiser - AC2EV RARA Board member VE Team Leader 585-613-1035 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to kh at kh-translation.dk From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Sun May 1 10:04:35 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 09:04:35 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Prolific driver for Windows 10? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57260CF3.2060309@mediacombb.net> From the K3/K3S software download page, K3 Utilities and drivers section. "Elecraft offers the KUSB serial-to-USB cable for USB only computers etc.Our cable was originally provided using a */Prolific/* chip set but since approximately July of 2010 we have been shipping KUSB cables which use the */FTDI/* chip set. Before plugging in either of these cables to any of your computer's USB ports, you will need to have installed the correct drivers for your computer's operating system. Drivers are available for most Windows, Mac, and Linux OS's. Note that latest Windows 7 operating system already has the proper drivers included for the FTDI chip set and will automatically install them if you just plug the FTDI cable into a USB port. / //*Although both of these cables shipped with a mini CD, the drivers on this mini CD are not up to date. Please follow the links below for the latest versions of the drivers. Be sure to select the correct Operating System version."*/ On 4/30/2016 8:13 PM, Jack Colson wrote: > Will the driver that is supplied by Elecraft on the mini CD work on Windows 10? It does on Win 7. > Thank you, > 73, > Jack, W3TMZ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevin.stover at mediacombb.net > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From heinz.baertschi at bluewin.ch Sun May 1 10:09:21 2016 From: heinz.baertschi at bluewin.ch (=?utf-8?Q?Heinz_B=C3=A4rtschi?=) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 16:09:21 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 panadapter choices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I probably have a Z10000B kit in reserve. Could look for it next week and then contact you personally. Ok? Heinz HB9BCB > Am 01.05.2016 um 15:23 schrieb Jim Allen : > > I've been in a very helpful discussion with Don Wilhelm about using my Funcube Dongle Pro Plus in a second receiver/panadapter role with the K2. Don suggests the Clifton Labs Z10000B buffer amplifier, but those aren't available anymore. > > Does anyone have one of those devices sitting around unused, or know where to find one, or are there any suggestions for alternatives? > > 73 de W6OGC Jim Allen > From pauls at elecraft.com Sun May 1 11:11:14 2016 From: pauls at elecraft.com (Paul Saffren N6HZ) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 08:11:14 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Px3 Utility Macro Download In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1462115474590-7616968.post@n2.nabble.com> Hajo, PX3 macros can be backed up and restored along with the configuration by simply saving/restoring the configuration with the PX3 Utility. They can only be edited inside the PX3 using an attached keyboard. For now there is no way to import and export macros, but that feature is on my list. Very 73, Paul -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Px3-Utility-Macro-Download-tp7616925p7616968.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From bob at hogbytes.com Sun May 1 11:41:19 2016 From: bob at hogbytes.com (Bob N3MNT) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 08:41:19 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] N1MM, KX3, and KXPA100 In-Reply-To: <1992147432.5817338.1462076854945.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1992147432.5817338.1462076854945.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1462117279368-7616969.post@n2.nabble.com> I use N1MM+ through the KXPA100 weekly and have no issues. Check the baud rate. Should be 38,400. Make sure KX3 is selected as radio. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/N1MM-KX3-and-KXPA100-tp7616961p7616969.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From dl1sdz at gmail.com Sun May 1 11:43:32 2016 From: dl1sdz at gmail.com (Hajo Dezelski) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 17:43:32 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] Px3 Utility Macro Download In-Reply-To: <1462115474590-7616968.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1462115474590-7616968.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: ?Hi Paul, you are wellcome as always. ? On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Paul Saffren N6HZ wrote: > For now there is > no way to import and export macros, but that feature is on my list. > ?So I don't have to write another email for a feature request. Very well anticipated.? ?73 de? Hajo ? DL1SDZ? --- Cela est bien dit, mais il faut cultiver notre jardin. From nthdegreeinc at gmail.com Sun May 1 11:53:51 2016 From: nthdegreeinc at gmail.com (Ron Reis) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 08:53:51 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Power-On message Message-ID: Can't seem to find out how to change the power-on message in the manual. Hints? From mike at mdodd.com Sun May 1 11:57:32 2016 From: mike at mdodd.com (Mike Dodd) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 11:57:32 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Power-On message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5726276C.4060405@mdodd.com> On 5/1/2016 11:53 AM, Ron Reis wrote: > Can't seem to find out how to change the power-on message in the manual. > Hints? Use the utility. -- 73, Mike N4CF Louisa County, VA USA Elecraft K3s/100 Carolina Windom up 45' http://n4cf.mdodd.com From kk7p4dsp at gmail.com Sun May 1 11:58:24 2016 From: kk7p4dsp at gmail.com (Lyle) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 08:58:24 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Power-On message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2A8F0E47-1FFE-4CDF-B731-95643A654312@gmail.com> It is part of the Utility. 73, Lyle KK7P > Can't seem to find out how to change the power-on message in the manual. > Hints? From GMuller885 at aol.com Sun May 1 12:02:33 2016 From: GMuller885 at aol.com (GMuller885 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 12:02:33 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RTTY Message-ID: <75f27.16b61fb4.44578298@aol.com> Hello all: I have a K3/P3 and want to do RTTY, JT, PSK. I know that there is a section, Page 31, in the manual that address this area. I do not wish to use the sound card in my PC as I listen to back ground music while on the air. No the QSO can not hear it as I have checked that out. For those that are into digi would you suggest the built in function on the K3 or an external and why . What external if any and why. Gerald Muller K9GEM GMuller885 at aol.com From mwdink at yahoo.com Sun May 1 12:12:27 2016 From: mwdink at yahoo.com (Michael Dinkelman) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 16:12:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] Mobile KX3 with KXPA100 - macro question References: <322125050.5899796.1462119147414.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <322125050.5899796.1462119147414.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I'll admit, I'm just lazy with this question (and time is running short).I could probably crack the manuals on this one to find the answer. When I tune my mobile antennas, I would rather have the KXPA100power turned low, then adjust back up to 100watts when I'm happy with thetuning. Doing that with the KX3 power knob is a pain and time consuming. Is there a macro (or two macros) that could toggle the KX3/KXPA100 power between two levels with just a button push or two? cheersdink, n7wa From kd0bcf at yahoo.com Sun May 1 12:16:28 2016 From: kd0bcf at yahoo.com (Tom Fitzgerald) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 11:16:28 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] A helpful review... Message-ID: This link may be of interest to many who have recently been debating a new SDR...it was recently made available to another group I belong to. I'm keeping my K3 but looking forward to purchasing one of these puppies too. I'm sold and the price point is perfect. http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/ic7300/7300notes.pdf "We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special." -Stephen Hawking. "Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead." -Emily clone circa 2242 From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Sun May 1 12:18:17 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 09:18:17 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 panadapter choices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57262C49.7010601@triconet.org> I can't vouch for its performance yet because it's still in transit, but I've ordered one of these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/111973884221 I have a couple of SDR-IQs, one of which I use as a panadapter on my K3S, the other will get the preamp for use as a general purpose monitor receiver/spectrum analyzer. Wes N7WS On 5/1/2016 6:23 AM, Jim Allen wrote: > I've been in a very helpful discussion with Don Wilhelm about using my Funcube Dongle Pro Plus in a second receiver/panadapter role with the K2. Don suggests the Clifton Labs Z10000B buffer amplifier, but those aren't available anymore. > > Does anyone have one of those devices sitting around unused, or know where to find one, or are there any suggestions for alternatives? > > TIA > > 73 de W6OGC Jim Allen > > From ai6do at yahoo.com Sun May 1 12:37:21 2016 From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 16:37:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] Power-On message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1412244573.5572282.1462120641052.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> You need to use the KX3 Utility. The button to change the Power On Banner is under the Configuration tab.? 73, Ryan AI6DO From: Ron Reis To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 8:53 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Power-On message Can't seem to find out how to change the power-on message in the manual. Hints? ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ai6do at yahoo.com From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Sun May 1 12:41:52 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 09:41:52 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] A helpful review... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <572631D0.3030202@audiosystemsgroup.com> It has been observed that the author has a reputation as sort of a spokesman/apologist for ICOM. 73, Jim K9YC On Sun,5/1/2016 9:16 AM, Tom Fitzgerald via Elecraft wrote: > This link may be of interest to many who have recently been debating a new SDR...it was recently made available to another group I belong to. I'm keeping my K3 but looking forward to purchasing one of these puppies too. I'm sold and the price point is perfect. > > http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/ic7300/7300notes.pdf From ai6do at yahoo.com Sun May 1 12:39:12 2016 From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 16:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] Mobile KX3 with KXPA100 - macro question In-Reply-To: <322125050.5899796.1462119147414.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <322125050.5899796.1462119147414.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <322125050.5899796.1462119147414.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <94868742.5587031.1462120752312.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> The command you want is PCnnn; where nnn is a number from 000 to 110 representing requested power in Watts. You could use the resetting macro trick to create a toggle.?https://polyphase.ca/posts/2015/01/05/k3-kx3-macros/?provides an example.? 73, Ryan AI6DO From: Michael Dinkelman via Elecraft To: Elecraft Reflector Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 9:12 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Mobile KX3 with KXPA100 - macro question I'll admit, I'm just lazy with this question (and time is running short).I could probably crack the manuals on this one to find the answer. When I tune my mobile antennas, I would rather have the KXPA100power turned low, then adjust back up to 100watts when I'm happy with thetuning. Doing that with the KX3 power knob is a pain and time consuming. Is there a macro (or two macros) that could toggle the KX3/KXPA100 power between two levels with just a button push or two? cheersdink, n7wa ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ai6do at yahoo.com From ai6do at yahoo.com Sun May 1 13:16:12 2016 From: ai6do at yahoo.com (Ryan Noguchi) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 17:16:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] N1MM, KX3, and KXPA100 In-Reply-To: <1992147432.5817338.1462076854945.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1992147432.5817338.1462076854945.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1992147432.5817338.1462076854945.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <41884415.5636783.1462122972690.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I use N1MM Logger+ with my KX3 and KXPA100. Never had the issue you describe with my equipment.? My first suggestion would be to make sure you're using the latest firmware, especially on the KXPA100. The firmware on my club's KX3 and KXPA100 were horrendously out of date, resulting in all kinds of trouble with the tuner and PA until I updated the firmware, including a similar issue to what you described independent of N1MM Logger+.? 73, Ryan AI6DO From: Michael Dinkelman via Elecraft To: "Elecraft at mailman.qth.net" Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 9:27 PM Subject: [Elecraft] N1MM, KX3, and KXPA100 I've borrowed a KX3 and KXPA100 for the 7QP, going mobile. I plan to use N1MM for logging, keying, and frequency control. I can get N1MM to talk to the KX3. I can get N1MM to talk to the KX3 through the KXPA100 daisy chained serial connection. However, whenever I talk through to the KX3 through the KXPA100, the PA gets turned off. If I turn it back on, it gets turned back off. I can't find any clues in the manuals and I can't find any clues on a search of the net. Someone must be using N1MM to talk to the KX3/KXPA100 combo. Can someone give me any ideas of what I am doing wrong? cheers dink, n7wa From bhemmis at mac.com Sun May 1 13:43:17 2016 From: bhemmis at mac.com (Brian Hemmis) Date: Sun, 01 May 2016 13:43:17 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] A helpful review... In-Reply-To: <572631D0.3030202@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <572631D0.3030202@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <86934CF8-4626-4EDD-8CEC-6B1F01C6C889@mac.com> Correct but the little box scores well in Rob Sherwood?s tests (considering its price) and the eHam opinions (reviews) are great. It?s no K3 but looks like a lot of fun to play with. Glad to see one of the big 3 come out with something new at a great price. 73, Brian K3USC > On May 1, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > > It has been observed that the author has a reputation as sort of a spokesman/apologist for ICOM. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > On Sun,5/1/2016 9:16 AM, Tom Fitzgerald via Elecraft wrote: >> This link may be of interest to many who have recently been debating a new SDR...it was recently made available to another group I belong to. I'm keeping my K3 but looking forward to purchasing one of these puppies too. I'm sold and the price point is perfect. >> >> http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/ic7300/7300notes.pdf > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k3usc at arrl.net From kevinr at coho.net Sun May 1 13:55:47 2016 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr at coho.net) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 10:55:47 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement Message-ID: <57264323.8090904@coho.net> Good Morning, Propagation has been dismal to poor lately; with broken skeds the norm. The solar flux index has been rising slowly. However, contacts can be made even during sunspot minimums, we simply need to adapt our techniques to the changes. Please join us on: 14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday) 7045 kHz at 0100z Monday (6 PM PDT Sunday) 73, Kevin. KD5ONS From NZ3O at arrl.net Sun May 1 15:08:24 2016 From: NZ3O at arrl.net (Byron Peebles) Date: Sun, 01 May 2016 15:08:24 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment Message-ID: <57265428.4090304@arrl.net> I continue to be plagued with the radio disconnect azssociated with the RJ-45 interface on the K3S. Has anyone ever heard of an RJ-45 Pin Alignment tool? I suspect there is some physical issue that is not resolved by removing the boot and everything else that I've tried. Forget about it staying connected if you move anything on the desk. It just seems like some fundamental issue, possible with the socket, as manufactured. My search for any kind of pin alignment or calibration tool has been unsuccessful. Anyone really resolved this? By resolved, I mean you can move things without disconnecting. 73, Byron K3S #100-72 From jcolson7 at tampabay.rr.com Sun May 1 15:13:30 2016 From: jcolson7 at tampabay.rr.com (Jack Colson) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 15:13:30 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Will the USB SERIAL CABLE V 1.1 supplied by Elecraft work with Windows 10? Message-ID: <7195EA4C-DC9B-44A2-869A-4D7D6F597F6F@tampabay.rr.com> This is a 2007 CD. It works with Win 7. 73, Jack, W3TMZ From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sun May 1 15:14:35 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 15:14:35 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment In-Reply-To: <57265428.4090304@arrl.net> References: <57265428.4090304@arrl.net> Message-ID: <34e12355-b394-f508-ac69-6ca3a0cc05ed@embarqmail.com> Byron, There is a latch on the RJ-45 plug - if the plug is inserted sufficiently, you will hear a slight click when it is fully inserted. Once latched, it will not fall out. You may have to move the boot back a bit and push on the plug assembly itself to get it to latch. Once latched, move the boot back into place. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/1/2016 3:08 PM, Byron Peebles wrote: > I continue to be plagued with the radio disconnect azssociated with > the RJ-45 interface on the K3S. > > Has anyone ever heard of an RJ-45 Pin Alignment tool? I suspect there > is some physical issue that is not resolved by removing the boot and > everything else that I've tried. Forget about it staying connected if > you move anything on the desk. It just seems like some fundamental > issue, possible with the socket, as manufactured. > From cljonkers at bellsouth.net Sun May 1 15:13:40 2016 From: cljonkers at bellsouth.net (C L Jonkers) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 19:13:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] K3 1 milliwatt calibration failed References: <332611818.5989761.1462130020734.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <332611818.5989761.1462130020734.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> After installing new syns and making other mods calibration was going well until the 1 mw test.? Then: IsSamplingComplete: Unexpected response 'DB 0.72 MW;' to 'DB;'. State 220 Any help appreciated. 73, Neil? NJ6L From n9tf at comcast.net Sun May 1 15:16:33 2016 From: n9tf at comcast.net (Gene Gabry) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 14:16:33 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] A helpful review... In-Reply-To: <572631D0.3030202@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <572631D0.3030202@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <009001d1a3dd$f970e380$ec52aa80$@net> "Sort of". You're being to kind today Jim. ;) ;) 73 Gene, N9TF -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 11:42 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A helpful review... It has been observed that the author has a reputation as sort of a spokesman/apologist for ICOM. 73, Jim K9YC On Sun,5/1/2016 9:16 AM, Tom Fitzgerald via Elecraft wrote: > This link may be of interest to many who have recently been debating a new SDR...it was recently made available to another group I belong to. I'm keeping my K3 but looking forward to purchasing one of these puppies too. I'm sold and the price point is perfect. > > http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/ic7300/7300notes.pdf ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n9tf at comcast.net From k2av.guy at gmail.com Sun May 1 15:19:03 2016 From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 15:19:03 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment In-Reply-To: <57265428.4090304@arrl.net> References: <57265428.4090304@arrl.net> Message-ID: Hi Byron, If an RJ45 cable does not make a "snap" sound upon insertion to the socket, it is not seated properly. Also, what happens very commonly, is that the little tab on the plug that locks the plug into the socket has been broken off. Again, VERY common for the tab to be broken off. An RJ45 cord with a missing tab on either end needs to thrown out. 73, Guy. On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Byron Peebles wrote: > I continue to be plagued with the radio disconnect azssociated with the > RJ-45 interface on the K3S. > > Has anyone ever heard of an RJ-45 Pin Alignment tool? I suspect there is > some physical issue that is not resolved by removing the boot and > everything else that I've tried. Forget about it staying connected if you > move anything on the desk. It just seems like some fundamental issue, > possible with the socket, as manufactured. > > My search for any kind of pin alignment or calibration tool has been > unsuccessful. > > Anyone really resolved this? By resolved, I mean you can move things > without disconnecting. > > 73, Byron > K3S #100-72 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2av.guy at gmail.com > From wa6ara at gmail.com Sun May 1 15:19:56 2016 From: wa6ara at gmail.com (Mike Herr) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 12:19:56 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] CW weight question Message-ID: CW weight refers to the balance between the single element length (dit) and the space. But, what is the elecraft definition of a "weight" of 1.00 verses 1.25? As weight is changed does the dit or the space change? Does the ratio between dit and dah remain a constant 3:1? From qschultze at gmail.com Sun May 1 15:37:59 2016 From: qschultze at gmail.com (Quentin Schultze) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 15:37:59 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] For Sale: K3/100F, P3, and KAT500 Message-ID: *The K3/100F is a factory unit serial 1284 in excellent physical and electrical condition. Non-smoking.* *It's been back to the factory a few times for all of the upgrades including the gold pins and the 12v upgrade which supports the P3.* *Included features/options:* **KAT3-F* **KRX3 2nd receiver.* **Both receivers include the following:2.8, 1.8 and 400 8 pole filters.* **KXV3B RX Ant, 2nd Preamp, IF output, XVTR Interface.* **KSYN3A (revision b boards) upgrade on both receivers* *All of the above: $2500 shipped with the manual.* **P3 with * *?2K ?* *transmit monitor ? excellent condition: $1000 shipped* **KAT-500 works perfectly but cabinet scratches/mars on top ? not in same excellent condition as above: $1100* *COMPLETE PACKAGE: $3900 with all cables and manuals* *Send me a note via my QRZ email * *?(I assume it is the one that will appear with this posting, too) ?* *and we can talk on the phone if you are interested. ?PayPal an option. ?Thanks.* *Quin, K8QS* *Grand Rapids, MI* From k2av.guy at gmail.com Sun May 1 15:51:01 2016 From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 15:51:01 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Will the USB SERIAL CABLE V 1.1 supplied by Elecraft work with Windows 10? In-Reply-To: <7195EA4C-DC9B-44A2-869A-4D7D6F597F6F@tampabay.rr.com> References: <7195EA4C-DC9B-44A2-869A-4D7D6F597F6F@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: If it doesn't work, disconnect the adapter from the PC. Reboot the PC. Reattach the adapter. If it still doesn't work, disconnect the adapter again and go to the device manager: On the PC desktop, click on the window symbol lower left corner, then click settings. In the "find a setting" entry field, upper right in settings window, type "device manager" without the quotes. (Clicking on the "Devices" choice takes you to a different place.) In search results window, click "Device Manager". In Device manager, click on "Ports", double click on your USB to serial listing among all the ports. Click on the "driver" tab. The current prolific driver, supplied by Windows over the internet and blessed by Windows 10, is 3.6.81.357, dated 9/4/2015. This driver works well, and is always running my AIM4170 analyzer when it is in the shack. If you have a "strange" or older version, then click on the update driver button, and click on the "search automatically" choice. If it tells you are current, then in device manager click on the uninstall button to remove it. when that is done, plug in the adapter cord, and when it asks where to get the driver, chose the internet. It will do a new install of the current "blessed" driver. There are other gotchas, like if the actual cord that you have has a fake or damaged chip in it, or the USB connection is suffering from busted connection, or too many connections on a hub, or a bad hub, etc, etc. When I converted from my Win 7 Pro to Win 10, nothing broke, and a lot of stuff ran better, faster. Flipped my wife's PC from Win 7 Pro to Win 10 and a small stack of mysterious troubles that I was never able to isolate just went away. Fixed a couple of LAN definition things and all was quite fine. All in all, it was by far the best Microsoft OS conversion I've ever had. Hope that helps. 73, Guy K2AV On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Jack Colson wrote: > This is a 2007 CD. It works with Win 7. > 73, > Jack, W3TMZ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2av.guy at gmail.com > From radioham at mchsi.com Sun May 1 15:57:08 2016 From: radioham at mchsi.com (David Christ) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 14:57:08 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment In-Reply-To: References: <57265428.4090304@arrl.net> Message-ID: <02B09D3E-FC1D-414B-AC21-3F1041F82472@mchsi.com> Some times the tab has been pressed down and does not spring up enough to lock properly. I prefer non hooded ends and lift up on the tab before inserting to bake sure it will click and lock properly. David K0LUM > On May 1, 2016, at 2:19 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: > > Hi Byron, > > If an RJ45 cable does not make a "snap" sound upon insertion to the socket, > it is not seated properly. Also, what happens very commonly, is that the > little tab on the plug that locks the plug into the socket has been broken > off. Again, VERY common for the tab to be broken off. An RJ45 cord with a > missing tab on either end needs to thrown out. > > 73, Guy. > > On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Byron Peebles wrote: > >> I continue to be plagued with the radio disconnect azssociated with the >> RJ-45 interface on the K3S. >> >> Has anyone ever heard of an RJ-45 Pin Alignment tool? I suspect there is >> some physical issue that is not resolved by removing the boot and >> everything else that I've tried. Forget about it staying connected if you >> move anything on the desk. It just seems like some fundamental issue, >> possible with the socket, as manufactured. >> >> My search for any kind of pin alignment or calibration tool has been >> unsuccessful. >> >> Anyone really resolved this? By resolved, I mean you can move things >> without disconnecting. >> >> 73, Byron >> K3S #100-72 >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k2av.guy at gmail.com >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to radioham at mchsi.com David K0LUM From w7ox at socal.rr.com Sun May 1 16:12:09 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 13:12:09 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] A helpful review... In-Reply-To: <572631D0.3030202@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <572631D0.3030202@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <57266319.8040205@socal.rr.com> Jim, It's good Icom has at least one of those. Elecraft has so many of us :-) 73, Phil W7OX On 5/1/16 9:41 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > It has been observed that the author has a > reputation as sort of a spokesman/apologist for > ICOM. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > On Sun,5/1/2016 9:16 AM, Tom Fitzgerald via > Elecraft wrote: >> This link may be of interest to many who have >> recently been debating a new SDR...it was >> recently made available to another group I >> belong to. I'm keeping my K3 but looking >> forward to purchasing one of these puppies too. >> I'm sold and the price point is perfect. >> >> http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/ic7300/7300notes.pdf From fcady at montana.edu Sun May 1 16:23:15 2016 From: fcady at montana.edu (Cady, Fred) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 20:23:15 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] CW weight question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Mike, Here is what I know about the K3 WGHT: CW Weight The term "CW weight" can refer to the ratio of the dit-to-intersymbol-space time or the dah-to-dit ratio. Altering these ratios changes the sound of the keying. A "normal" weight is 1:1, where the time for the dit is the same as the intersymbol time and which gives a ?normal? dah-to-dit ratio of 3:1. See Figure 4 1(a). When the dah-dit ratio is less than 3:1, the dits are emphasized and the keying is said to have a heavier weight, as in Figure 4 1(b). The CW WGHT control for the K3S adjusts these ratios. For example, if CW WGHT is 1.2, the dit time is increased by 20% and the intersymbol-space time is reduced by 20%. The dah time is increased by the same amount of time (i.e. 20% of the dit-time, in effect, increasing the dah-time by only 20/3 = 6.67%). See Table 4 2 and Figure 4 2. Figure 4 2 shows measurements of the CW WGHT for the K3S. To send CW with a ?normal? weight, choose CW WGHT to be 1.05. (Figure and table references are for the K3S book.) Cheers, Fred KE7X For all KE7X Elecraft book, see www.ke7x.com ________________________________________ From: Elecraft on behalf of Mike Herr Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 1:19 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] CW weight question CW weight refers to the balance between the single element length (dit) and the space. But, what is the elecraft definition of a "weight" of 1.00 verses 1.25? As weight is changed does the dit or the space change? Does the ratio between dit and dah remain a constant 3:1? ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to fcady at montana.edu From andrew at ahebden.com Sun May 1 16:23:41 2016 From: andrew at ahebden.com (Andrew Hebden) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 21:23:41 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S Build - What have I forgotten In-Reply-To: <34ECCE85-1732-4C1E-88DD-975A97E2C97D@comcast.net> References: <002d01d1a32c$ea44f010$beced030$@com> <34ECCE85-1732-4C1E-88DD-975A97E2C97D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <006001d1a3e7$5ab9bd70$102d3850$@com> Hi all, Many thanks for your prompt replies. Family visits got in the way so I wasn't able to gives things a try out until just now. You were all quite correct, it was a simple newbie error. I am using the Elecraft MH2 mic and had not thought about having to set it up. As expected I just turned the mic bias on and all is well. I can now get down to playing radio. 73 Andrew G8BYB > On Apr 30, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Andrew Hebden wrote: > > Hi, > I have completed my build following the manual and everything seems to > work fine until I started to try and set it up for SSB. I can get full > output using the two tone test but nothing through the microphone. I > also tried a another microphone plugged in to the rear mic socket. Still nothing. > Any suggestions? > > Andrew > G8BYB > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From tnnyswy at yahoo.com Sun May 1 16:23:50 2016 From: tnnyswy at yahoo.com (tnnyswy at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 20:23:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] A helpful review... In-Reply-To: <57266319.8040205@socal.rr.com> References: <57266319.8040205@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <1929331698.5638299.1462134230916.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Phil, I could not have said it any better! ((((73)))) Milverton /W9MMS. From: Phil Wheeler To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A helpful review... Jim, It's good Icom has at least one of those. Elecraft has so many of us :-) 73, Phil W7OX On 5/1/16 9:41 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > It has been observed that the author has a > reputation as sort of a spokesman/apologist for > ICOM. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > On Sun,5/1/2016 9:16 AM, Tom Fitzgerald via > Elecraft wrote: >> This link may be of interest to many who have >> recently been debating a new SDR...it was >> recently made available to another group I >> belong to. I'm keeping my K3 but looking >> forward to purchasing one of these puppies too. >> I'm sold and the price point is perfect. >> >> http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/ic7300/7300notes.pdf ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tnnyswy at yahoo.com From k2av.guy at gmail.com Sun May 1 16:32:27 2016 From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 16:32:27 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] A helpful review... In-Reply-To: <009001d1a3dd$f970e380$ec52aa80$@net> References: <572631D0.3030202@audiosystemsgroup.com> <009001d1a3dd$f970e380$ec52aa80$@net> Message-ID: I had a nastier response which I decided to deep six since it was Sunday. But just one thing, if one went into Macy's and started hanging up Belk's posters, how would that be received? Rude, stupid, trespassing, illegal, what? I wonder if the same post also went to the Kenwood and Yaesu reflectors or it was just us that were "blessed"? My RELIABLE (caps intended) source of dope on new rigs comes from other PVRC (Potomac Valley Radio Club) membership who in contesting tend to use the rigs harshly. This is often discussed on the PVRC reflector, where no one expects commentary to center on any particular brand or age of rig. I have found the aggregate experience of PVRC folk on rigs to be accurate in the extreme, with never a pulled punch, particularly in the range of reactions to a given rig, where the RANGE of reaction is highly informative. I also get to go visit and try the rigs out if I want. We also have one soul on that reflector who rarely keeps a rig more than three months, and that running soap opera is pretty informative. Personally, I don't need Icom information here, don't want Icom information here, not trusting of Icom information here since some of it is obviously trolling. I have a really good place to get such if I want, that isn't hanging Belk's posters in Macy's. Here, I'm mostly looking for Elecraft owners that need some help off line. 73, Guy. On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Gene Gabry wrote: > "Sort of". You're being to kind today Jim. ;) ;) > > 73 Gene, N9TF > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim > Brown > Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 11:42 AM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A helpful review... > > It has been observed that the author has a reputation as sort of a > spokesman/apologist for ICOM. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > On Sun,5/1/2016 9:16 AM, Tom Fitzgerald via Elecraft wrote: > > This link may be of interest to many who have recently been debating a > new > SDR...it was recently made available to another group I belong to. I'm > keeping my K3 but looking forward to purchasing one of these puppies too. > I'm sold and the price point is perfect. > > > > http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/ic7300/7300notes.pdf > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message > delivered to n9tf at comcast.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2av.guy at gmail.com > From k2av.guy at gmail.com Sun May 1 17:05:34 2016 From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 17:05:34 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Will the USB SERIAL CABLE V 1.1 supplied by Elecraft work with Windows 10? In-Reply-To: <7195EA4C-DC9B-44A2-869A-4D7D6F597F6F@tampabay.rr.com> References: <7195EA4C-DC9B-44A2-869A-4D7D6F597F6F@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: If it doesn't work, disconnect the adapter from the PC. Reboot the PC. Reattach the adapter. If it still doesn't work, disconnect the adapter again and go to the device manager: On the PC desktop, click on the window symbol lower left corner, then click settings. In the "find a setting" entry field, upper right in settings window, type "device manager" without the quotes. (Clicking on the "Devices" choice takes you to a different place.) In search results window, click "Device Manager". In Device manager, click on "Ports", double click on your USB to serial listing among all the ports. Click on the "driver" tab. The current prolific driver, supplied by Windows over the internet and blessed by Windows 10, according to the driver panel, is 3.6.81.357, dated 9/4/2015. This driver works well here, and is always running my AIM4170 analyzer when it is in the shack. If you have a "strange" or older version, then click on the update driver button, and click on the "search automatically" choice. If it tells you that you are current, then in device manager click on the uninstall button to remove it. when that is done, plug in the adapter cord, and when it asks where to get the driver, chose the internet. It will do a new install of the current "blessed" driver. There are other gotchas, like if the actual cord that you have has a fake chip in it, and other irritating circumstances. Hope that helps. 73, Guy K2AV On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Jack Colson wrote: > This is a 2007 CD. It works with Win 7. > 73, > Jack, W3TMZ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2av.guy at gmail.com > From floyd at k8ac.net Sun May 1 17:26:42 2016 From: floyd at k8ac.net (Floyd Sense) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 17:26:42 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 panadapter choices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have a K2 with panadaptor and I use an LP-Pan2 and NaP3 as NaP3 supports VFO-B, while many other options don't. Note that NaP3 also supports the Funcube Pro+. Since the Clifton Labs Z10000 is not longer available, take a look at the buffer/amps sold by G4HUP at his website. The board is about the same size as the Z10000 board and I use it in my FT-1000MP Mk V and it works perfectly. Note that there are different models of the G4HUP board, depending on the IF frequency. I suggest getting the documentation from the Clifton Labs site on how to install the Z10000 board in the K2 and installing the G4HUP board in the same fashion. Resist the temptation to use one of the RTL-SDR dongles as they have lower dynamic range than the Funcube Pro+ and they have no built-in sound card so are not supported by NaP3. You'd have to use something like HDSDR with one of those dongles and you'd lose the VFO-B support. The Funcube Pro+ with NaP3 gives performance almost the same as an LP-Pan2, and you won't have to purchase a suitable sound card to go along with it as you would with the LP-Pan2. 73, Floyd - K8AC From eric.csuf at gmail.com Sun May 1 17:40:19 2016 From: eric.csuf at gmail.com (EricJ) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 14:40:19 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] A helpful review... In-Reply-To: References: <572631D0.3030202@audiosystemsgroup.com> <009001d1a3dd$f970e380$ec52aa80$@net> Message-ID: <59848d4b-2ae1-ac36-3f9a-f39edd392e32@gmail.com> Using a rig harshly in a particular activity isn't necessarily a good indication of its capabilities in activities where that isn't how it is used. Not everyone is a serious contester or DX'er, though they are well represented on this reflector. What's good on the racetrack may not be the best suited to the road. I can't see an IC-7300 in my future, but it seems to be of interest to a lot of hams who ordinarily wouldn't be interested in an entry level rig. But then I can't yet see a K3s in my future either for the kind of operating I do. My K2's have no shortcomings that interfere with my ability to enjoy a radio the way I want to enjoy it. My K1 answers MOST of those needs. hi. Eric KE6US On 5/1/2016 1:32 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: > My RELIABLE (caps intended) source of dope on new rigs comes from other > PVRC (Potomac Valley Radio Club) membership who in contesting tend to use > the rigs harshly. > > 73, Guy. > From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Sun May 1 17:59:48 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 16:59:48 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] A helpful review... In-Reply-To: References: <572631D0.3030202@audiosystemsgroup.com> <009001d1a3dd$f970e380$ec52aa80$@net> Message-ID: <57267C54.9010807@mediacombb.net> Exactly. How do you suppose the readers of other manufacturers mail list/forums would react if they had to deal with Elecraft advertisements all the times? Not well I assure you. I always thought this mail list was for owners of Elecraft gear or potential owners of Elecraft gear to congregate and talk about their Elecraft gear, their experiences using it and if needs be some advice in repairing/configuring same. The advertisements are happening way to often now. Instead of telling me to delete the posts how about telling the IcoYaeKen fan boys to post their troll advertisements on their own list/forum? On 5/1/2016 3:32 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: > I had a nastier response which I decided to deep six since it was Sunday. > > But just one thing, if one went into Macy's and started hanging up Belk's > posters, how would that be received? Rude, stupid, trespassing, illegal, > what? I wonder if the same post also went to the Kenwood and Yaesu > reflectors or it was just us that were "blessed"? > > My RELIABLE (caps intended) source of dope on new rigs comes from other > PVRC (Potomac Valley Radio Club) membership who in contesting tend to use > the rigs harshly. This is often discussed on the PVRC reflector, where no > one expects commentary to center on any particular brand or age of rig. I > have found the aggregate experience of PVRC folk on rigs to be accurate in > the extreme, with never a pulled punch, particularly in the range of > reactions to a given rig, where the RANGE of reaction is highly > informative. I also get to go visit and try the rigs out if I want. We > also have one soul on that reflector who rarely keeps a rig more than three > months, and that running soap opera is pretty informative. > > Personally, I don't need Icom information here, don't want Icom information > here, not trusting of Icom information here since some of it is obviously > trolling. I have a really good place to get such if I want, that isn't > hanging Belk's posters in Macy's. Here, I'm mostly looking for Elecraft > owners that need some help off line. > > 73, Guy. > > On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Gene Gabry wrote: > >> "Sort of". You're being to kind today Jim. ;) ;) >> >> 73 Gene, N9TF >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim >> Brown >> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 11:42 AM >> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A helpful review... >> >> It has been observed that the author has a reputation as sort of a >> spokesman/apologist for ICOM. >> >> 73, Jim K9YC >> >> On Sun,5/1/2016 9:16 AM, Tom Fitzgerald via Elecraft wrote: >>> This link may be of interest to many who have recently been debating a -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From qschultze at gmail.com Sun May 1 18:05:34 2016 From: qschultze at gmail.com (Quentin Schultze) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 18:05:34 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] For Sale (Corrected) K3, P3, KAT-500 Message-ID: This is a corrected ad. The one I sent a few hours ago included info for the wrong K3. Thanks to Rich, N5ZC, from whom I bought this particular rig, for catching it for me before I made a more complete fool of myself. I have the following excellent-condition K3-100F for sale. * Serial # 8233 with the following features: * Main Receiver has the following 8 Pole Filters: 6, 2.8,1.8,.400,.250 * KRX3-F Sub Receiver with the following 8 pole Filters: 2.8, .400 * KDVR3-F Digital Voice Recorder * KXV3B-F RX Ant., 2nd Pre-Amp, IF Out and Xverter Interface * KSYN3AUPG - 2 each upgraded at the factory All of the above $2500 shipped. * P3 with 2K transmit monitor ? excellent condition: $1000 shipped * KAT-500 works perfectly but cabinet scratches/mars on top ? not in same excellent condition as above: $1100 or BO COMPLETE PACKAGE: $3900 with all cables and manuals. Send me an email and we can talk on the phone if you are interested. PayPal an option if you pay the fee. So is free Dayton delivery. Thanks. Quin, K8QS Grand Rapids, MI From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Sun May 1 18:31:11 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 15:31:11 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] A helpful review... In-Reply-To: <86934CF8-4626-4EDD-8CEC-6B1F01C6C889@mac.com> References: <572631D0.3030202@audiosystemsgroup.com> <86934CF8-4626-4EDD-8CEC-6B1F01C6C889@mac.com> Message-ID: <572683AF.40005@audiosystemsgroup.com> Rob's tests, which are generally excellent, include MANY different parameters, but he publishes ONLY the performance of the receivers, and he has arbitrarily chosen list them in order of only one of those parameters. For all practical purposes, he does not test transmitters (which is a good thing -- the one type of test I've seen is done improperly). The performance and usefulness of ANY product, including a radio, depends upon the totality of its characteristics. As the late Richard Heyser said so well, "trying to describe an audio system using only frequency response is like trying to write poetry with only one word in your vocabulary." 73, Jim K9YC On Sun,5/1/2016 10:43 AM, Brian Hemmis wrote: > Correct but the little box scores well in Rob Sherwood?s tests (considering its price) and the eHam opinions (reviews) are great. From nr4c at widomaker.com Sun May 1 18:56:45 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 18:56:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Power-On message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <19108640-685C-44E4-B1C3-5BF24AD3E57E@widomaker.com> Utility/configuration Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 1, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Ron Reis wrote: > > Can't seem to find out how to change the power-on message in the manual. > Hints? > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From NZ3O at arrl.net Sun May 1 18:59:03 2016 From: NZ3O at arrl.net (Byron Peebles) Date: Sun, 01 May 2016 18:59:03 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment Message-ID: <57268A37.7080605@arrl.net> I have indeed done all the clicks and boot removals and been unable to resolve the disconnect. It even happens when the radio is in-use and suddenly has the radio disconnect from the computer. So, the only answer is the standard "make certain it clicks", which it does? 73, Byron From alorona at sbcglobal.net Sun May 1 18:54:58 2016 From: alorona at sbcglobal.net (Al Lorona) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 22:54:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] A helpful review... In-Reply-To: <572683AF.40005@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <572683AF.40005@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <970331083.4531775.1462143298635.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Ahh, this is right on the mark. How many times have you heard a ham say, "I didn't like Radio X because it didn't have enough close-spaced dynamic range." Me, almost never. Instead, I usually hear that hams have discarded a radio because of a million different reasons like "bad" or "noisy" audio fit and feel buttons too small kept failing transmitter caused interference to other radios during a contest and many other factors, none of which is measured by gurus like Sherwood. So I totally agree, it's the radio as a whole that matters. It's what comes out of the speaker. it's the sound of the noise. Etc., etc. You've got to get a radio in your hands to get a good idea of it. That's why YouTube videos of receivers being recorded with a camera across the room, and lists of receivers ranked by dynamic range don't mean that much to me. Al W6LX >The performance and usefulness of ANY product, including a radio, >depends upon the totality of its characteristics. > >73, Jim K9YC From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sun May 1 19:04:54 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 19:04:54 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment In-Reply-To: <57268A37.7080605@arrl.net> References: <57268A37.7080605@arrl.net> Message-ID: <14bcf3b6-3658-18fb-8615-07ff0694d44a@embarqmail.com> Byron, You might have a defective cable - get another one and see if the problem goes away. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/1/2016 6:59 PM, Byron Peebles wrote: > I have indeed done all the clicks and boot removals and been unable to > resolve the disconnect. > > It even happens when the radio is in-use and suddenly has the radio > disconnect from the computer. > > So, the only answer is the standard "make certain it clicks", which it > does? > From radioham at mchsi.com Sun May 1 19:14:20 2016 From: radioham at mchsi.com (David Christ) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 18:14:20 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment In-Reply-To: <57268A37.7080605@arrl.net> References: <57268A37.7080605@arrl.net> Message-ID: <8081F172-FA97-4A85-AD10-182CC54F2586@mchsi.com> Another thing it could be is a bad connector to cable connection. It can be intermittent. Another thing to look at is have any of the wires in the jack been bent. They are pretty flimsy. David K0LUM > On May 1, 2016, at 5:59 PM, Byron Peebles wrote: > > I have indeed done all the clicks and boot removals and been unable to resolve the disconnect. > > It even happens when the radio is in-use and suddenly has the radio disconnect from the computer. > > So, the only answer is the standard "make certain it clicks", which it does? > > 73, Byron > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to radioham at mchsi.com From qschultze at gmail.com Sun May 1 19:17:44 2016 From: qschultze at gmail.com (Quentin Schultze) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 19:17:44 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FS: K3, P3, KAT-500 pricing correction` Message-ID: Well, I fouled up again. The P3 and the KAT-500 are $1100 together. Package for all of the equipment, including K3, P3, and KAT-500 should be $3400. Really bad day. Quin, K8QS From mzilmer at roadrunner.com Sun May 1 19:18:54 2016 From: mzilmer at roadrunner.com (Matt Zilmer) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 16:18:54 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment In-Reply-To: <57265428.4090304@arrl.net> References: <57265428.4090304@arrl.net> Message-ID: I use the RJ45 all the time now [P3]. Found that you have to make sure it is fully seated, and that the plastic spring-tab thingie has completely engaged (decompressed). I've heard that IT techs force them into the RJ45 socket, so it's not a problem isolated to the K3's RJ45. Otoh, IT techs often find it necessary to cuss at inanimate objects... and use a bigger hammer when necessary. 73, matt W6NIA On 5/1/2016 12:08 PM, Byron Peebles wrote: > I continue to be plagued with the radio disconnect azssociated with > the RJ-45 interface on the K3S. > > Has anyone ever heard of an RJ-45 Pin Alignment tool? I suspect there > is some physical issue that is not resolved by removing the boot and > everything else that I've tried. Forget about it staying connected if > you move anything on the desk. It just seems like some fundamental > issue, possible with the socket, as manufactured. > > My search for any kind of pin alignment or calibration tool has been > unsuccessful. > > Anyone really resolved this? By resolved, I mean you can move things > without disconnecting. > > 73, Byron > K3S #100-72 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to mzilmer at roadrunner.com -- Always store beer in a dark place. - R. Heinlein From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sun May 1 19:21:33 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 19:21:33 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] A helpful review... In-Reply-To: <970331083.4531775.1462143298635.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <572683AF.40005@audiosystemsgroup.com> <970331083.4531775.1462143298635.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3e4fa0fe-4448-01e6-ed8a-2454290a7cbe@embarqmail.com> Al, You are correct for the more usual "casual use". In that arena, performance does not matter as much. The gut feeling about a radio's audio or the buttons are the more important to many operators. But when those operators who are a little more discerning and operate in DXing and contesting situations, the Sherwood ratings of close-in blocking dynamic range become the deciding factors in QSO or no-QSO. If the transceiver is capable of "saddling up" close to a strong station without that other station taking over the receiver, that factor is important to those who participate in such operating events. The ability to avoid receiver overload in crowded band conditions suddenly becomes the important parameter. So if you are a casual operator, those Sherwood rankings will not mean much to you. But if contesting performance is more your 'thing', the Sherwood rankings will be more important - that is what allows you to make contacts in the midst of many potentially interfering stations at close frequencies to your frequency. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/1/2016 6:54 PM, Al Lorona wrote: > Ahh, this is right on the mark. How many times have you heard a ham say, "I didn't like Radio X because it didn't have enough close-spaced dynamic range." Me, almost never. Instead, I usually hear that hams have discarded a radio because of a million different reasons like > > > "bad" or "noisy" audio > fit and feel > buttons too small > kept failing > > transmitter caused interference to other radios during a contest > > > and many other factors, none of which is measured by gurus like Sherwood. > > So I totally agree, it's the radio as a whole that matters. It's what comes out of the speaker. it's the sound of the noise. Etc., etc. You've got to get a radio in your hands to get a good idea of it. That's why YouTube videos of receivers being recorded with a camera across the room, and lists of receivers ranked by dynamic range don't mean that much to me. > > > Al W6LX > > >> The performance and usefulness of ANY product, including a radio, >> depends upon the totality of its characteristics. >> 73, Jim K9YC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com > From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sun May 1 19:33:43 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 19:33:43 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RTTY In-Reply-To: <75f27.16b61fb4.44578298@aol.com> References: <75f27.16b61fb4.44578298@aol.com> Message-ID: <0dc6f156-4869-44ed-a5d3-847d6bbf9ba6@embarqmail.com> Gerald, Can I assume a K3S or a K3 that has been upgraded with the KIO3B? The "built-in" soundcard on your K3S is like an external soundcard. You will not use the internal soundcard on the computer, but use that USB "soundcard" instead for the data audio to and from the K3. If you have a K3 without the new KIO3B, then an external soundcard would be in order. Just make sure that external soundcard is *not* the default soundcard. It is common for Windows (or other OS) to set the latest installed soundcard as default. Tell your data mode applications which soundcard to use. Your computer sounds and background music will come out of your computer speakers, and the data mode communications will use the 'external' soundcard - there should be no conflict. It is all in the computer setup. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/1/2016 12:02 PM, Jerry Muller via Elecraft wrote: > Hello all: > I have a K3/P3 and want to do RTTY, JT, PSK. I know that there is a > section, Page 31, in the manual that address this area. I do not wish to > use the sound card in my PC as I listen to back ground music while on the > air. No the QSO can not hear it as I have checked that out. For those that > are into digi would you suggest the built in function on the K3 or an > external and why . What external if any and why. > > From k6dgw at foothill.net Sun May 1 19:36:44 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 16:36:44 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment In-Reply-To: <57268A37.7080605@arrl.net> References: <57268A37.7080605@arrl.net> Message-ID: <9200f416-a9a8-2beb-7329-23da086ec093@foothill.net> "Click" is all we have to determine if it's seated, so I guess "Yes", that's all there is. I'd try another cable. My experience with RJ-45's is in large, tied bundles fanning out to a rack of routers or other devices. Nothing moves, it's all tied down. In single lots, RJ-45's leave a bit to be desired if there's any mechanical strain. They're crimped, with a special tool. Some tools, like maybe what the ATT tech carries are good and do a reliable job, others from you-know-where ... maybe not so much. I suppose it is possible that the jack is bad and not engaging the tab, and is clicking just to mess with your mind. At the TV station I worked at during college, we had to read and record the meters [~15 or 20] every 60 min. They were behind me when I was in the control room. Late at night, I became convinced they all went to wrong values and snapped to the right ones only when I picked up the clipboard to read them. :-)) I'd try a new cable. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org On 5/1/2016 3:59 PM, Byron Peebles wrote: > So, the only answer is the standard "make certain it clicks", which it > does? From mike at mdodd.com Sun May 1 19:48:11 2016 From: mike at mdodd.com (Mike Dodd) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 19:48:11 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RTTY In-Reply-To: <0dc6f156-4869-44ed-a5d3-847d6bbf9ba6@embarqmail.com> References: <75f27.16b61fb4.44578298@aol.com> <0dc6f156-4869-44ed-a5d3-847d6bbf9ba6@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <572695BB.3020009@mdodd.com> On 5/1/2016 7:33 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Gerald, > > Can I assume a K3S or a K3 that has been upgraded with the KIO3B? The > "built-in" soundcard on your K3S is like an external soundcard. You > will not use the internal soundcard on the computer, but use that > USB "soundcard" instead for the data audio to and from the K3. Allow me to add that the internal USB sound card is _wonderful._ It is as simple to use as Don described, and is easy to set up in MMTTY. Naturally, you'll select AFSK-A instead of FSK-D when using the sound card. For me, it eliminated a bunch of cables, and a little PC board I bought to interface my PC's sound card to my former rig (KX3) -- and all the hassles that entails -- is now surplus. -- 73, Mike N4CF Louisa County, VA USA Elecraft K3s/100 Carolina Windom up 45' http://n4cf.mdodd.com From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Sun May 1 19:50:59 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 16:50:59 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] A helpful review... In-Reply-To: References: <572631D0.3030202@audiosystemsgroup.com> <009001d1a3dd$f970e380$ec52aa80$@net> Message-ID: <57269663.8010409@triconet.org> Well, I don't know who Belk's is, but livening up our local Macy's wouldn't be a bad thing. But I agree, only unbiased Elecraft Kool Aid drinkers should be allowed to post here, and if they do, it should be only praise to the perfection and superiority of Elecraft radios. On 5/1/2016 1:32 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: > I had a nastier response which I decided to deep six since it was Sunday. > > But just one thing, if one went into Macy's and started hanging up Belk's > posters, how would that be received? Rude, stupid, trespassing, illegal, > what? I wonder if the same post also went to the Kenwood and Yaesu > reflectors or it was just us that were "blessed"? > > My RELIABLE (caps intended) source of dope on new rigs comes from other > PVRC (Potomac Valley Radio Club) membership who in contesting tend to use > the rigs harshly. This is often discussed on the PVRC reflector, where no > one expects commentary to center on any particular brand or age of rig. I > have found the aggregate experience of PVRC folk on rigs to be accurate in > the extreme, with never a pulled punch, particularly in the range of > reactions to a given rig, where the RANGE of reaction is highly > informative. I also get to go visit and try the rigs out if I want. We > also have one soul on that reflector who rarely keeps a rig more than three > months, and that running soap opera is pretty informative. > > Personally, I don't need Icom information here, don't want Icom information > here, not trusting of Icom information here since some of it is obviously > trolling. I have a really good place to get such if I want, that isn't > hanging Belk's posters in Macy's. Here, I'm mostly looking for Elecraft > owners that need some help off line. > > 73, Guy. > > From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Sun May 1 20:15:22 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 17:15:22 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RTTY In-Reply-To: <572695BB.3020009@mdodd.com> References: <75f27.16b61fb4.44578298@aol.com> <0dc6f156-4869-44ed-a5d3-847d6bbf9ba6@embarqmail.com> <572695BB.3020009@mdodd.com> Message-ID: <57269C1A.90201@triconet.org> Allow me to add a dissenting voice. I found it much easier (with admittedly more clutter) to set proper audio/ALC levels with my K3 and the computer sound card than I do with my K3S and the built in sound card/USB interface. There are other issues related to Mic/Line Level/VOX/Anti-VOX that I brought to Elecraft's attention 8 months ago and that reportedly were "discovered" by one of their engineers before my report and was going to be bumped up "the list." If this had been fixed, I wouldn't be bringing it up. On 5/1/2016 4:48 PM, Mike Dodd wrote: > On 5/1/2016 7:33 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >> Gerald, >> >> Can I assume a K3S or a K3 that has been upgraded with the KIO3B? The >> "built-in" soundcard on your K3S is like an external soundcard. You >> will not use the internal soundcard on the computer, but use that >> USB "soundcard" instead for the data audio to and from the K3. > > Allow me to add that the internal USB sound card is _wonderful._ It is as > simple to use as Don described, and is easy to set up in MMTTY. Naturally, > you'll select AFSK-A instead of FSK-D when using the sound card. For me, it > eliminated a bunch of cables, and a little PC board I bought to interface my > PC's sound card to my former rig (KX3) -- and all the hassles that entails -- > is now surplus. > From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Sun May 1 20:19:52 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 19:19:52 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment In-Reply-To: <14bcf3b6-3658-18fb-8615-07ff0694d44a@embarqmail.com> References: <57268A37.7080605@arrl.net> <14bcf3b6-3658-18fb-8615-07ff0694d44a@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <57269D28.4050500@mediacombb.net> I agree with Don. Try a new cable. It doesn't take a lot of flex to break one of those small solid copper wires. If it's broken in the connector it wasn't crimped well, as the standard RJ-45 has a strain relief built in that clamps down on the cable to keep it from pulling out. I just cringe when I see someone unpack a store bought cable, grab a hold of the connector and start straightening it out. On 5/1/2016 6:04 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Byron, > > You might have a defective cable - get another one and see if the > problem goes away. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 5/1/2016 6:59 PM, Byron Peebles wrote: >> I have indeed done all the clicks and boot removals and been unable >> to resolve the disconnect. >> >> It even happens when the radio is in-use and suddenly has the radio >> disconnect from the computer. >> >> So, the only answer is the standard "make certain it clicks", which >> it does? >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevin.stover at mediacombb.net > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From w7ox at socal.rr.com Sun May 1 20:38:13 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 17:38:13 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] A helpful review... In-Reply-To: <57269663.8010409@triconet.org> References: <572631D0.3030202@audiosystemsgroup.com> <009001d1a3dd$f970e380$ec52aa80$@net> <57269663.8010409@triconet.org> Message-ID: <5726A175.3080506@socal.rr.com> :-) On 5/1/16 4:50 PM, Wes wrote: > But I agree, only unbiased Elecraft Kool Aid > drinkers should be allowed to post here, and if > they do, it should be only praise to the > perfection and superiority of Elecraft radios. > > > On 5/1/2016 1:32 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: >> I had a nastier response which I decided to >> deep six since it was Sunday. >> >> But just one thing, if one went into Macy's and >> started hanging up Belk's >> posters, how would that be received? Rude, >> stupid, trespassing, illegal, >> what? I wonder if the same post also went to >> the Kenwood and Yaesu >> reflectors or it was just us that were "blessed"? >> >> My RELIABLE (caps intended) source of dope on >> new rigs comes from other >> PVRC (Potomac Valley Radio Club) membership who >> in contesting tend to use >> the rigs harshly. This is often discussed on >> the PVRC reflector, where no >> one expects commentary to center on any >> particular brand or age of rig. I >> have found the aggregate experience of PVRC >> folk on rigs to be accurate in >> the extreme, with never a pulled punch, >> particularly in the range of >> reactions to a given rig, where the RANGE of >> reaction is highly >> informative. I also get to go visit and try >> the rigs out if I want. We >> also have one soul on that reflector who rarely >> keeps a rig more than three >> months, and that running soap opera is pretty >> informative. >> >> Personally, I don't need Icom information here, >> don't want Icom information >> here, not trusting of Icom information here >> since some of it is obviously >> trolling. I have a really good place to get >> such if I want, that isn't >> hanging Belk's posters in Macy's. Here, I'm >> mostly looking for Elecraft >> owners that need some help off line. >> >> 73, Guy. From k2av.guy at gmail.com Sun May 1 20:53:44 2016 From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 20:53:44 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment In-Reply-To: <57269D28.4050500@mediacombb.net> References: <57268A37.7080605@arrl.net> <14bcf3b6-3658-18fb-8615-07ff0694d44a@embarqmail.com> <57269D28.4050500@mediacombb.net> Message-ID: It is so easy to bust an RJ45 cable it really isn't funny. There are so many ways to screw up the connector it isn't funny. Never trust an RJ45 cable, it only works if you can prove it works. Otherwise it's something that Murphy has slipped into our usage to get even. Maybe something inspired by Satan to temp people to falsely blame the people at Aptos and stir up strife on the reflector. If the radio ever accidentally gets lifted or pulled by an RJ45 cable... Heh, heh. It's possible to have one of the wires in the cable break and have the rest of the cable hold it together, with two broken ends touching each other, whenever they feel like it. Very intermittent. When you move the rig to find the trouble, the movement of the cord can re-touch the wires and the trouble go away. As soon as you put it back trouble comes back. You think I'm exaggerating or kidding? I'm not. Been there, done that, been exasperated, gone round the bush multiple times trying to chase down a @$*&^@&%$% intermittent trouble. Treat them like they're cheep cr*p, because they all are. They were DESIGNED to be cheep and do away with all that manually expensive cording for phones and phone style connected devices. Larger stranded wires with crimp screw eyes are much more durable, but cost a lot more. It's all about money and easy to assemble at the factory, or dump it off on the installer and don't pay for installation at all. Never pull on them. Never drop anything on them. Never stretch/straighten them out by holding the connectors. Never force an RJ45 into its socket if it doesn't want to go. Find out what's wrong first. Never use them to connect to something that is vibrating, or gets regular motion. If anything involving an RJ45 cord doesn't work, rule out the RJ45 first. Save yourself time and frustration. There may be a pure, kind, likable, friendly, softhearted and honorable RJ45 out there, that never caused anyone any trouble, that will suffer prejudice on account of this. Poor thing will just have to deal with it. His fambly has a terrible reputation. 73, Guy. On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Kevin Stover wrote: > I agree with Don. Try a new cable. > > It doesn't take a lot of flex to break one of those small solid copper > wires. > If it's broken in the connector it wasn't crimped well, as the standard > RJ-45 has a strain relief built in that clamps down on the cable to keep it > from pulling out. > > I just cringe when I see someone unpack a store bought cable, grab a hold > of the connector and start straightening it out. > > On 5/1/2016 6:04 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > >> Byron, >> >> You might have a defective cable - get another one and see if the problem >> goes away. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >> On 5/1/2016 6:59 PM, Byron Peebles wrote: >> >>> I have indeed done all the clicks and boot removals and been unable to >>> resolve the disconnect. >>> >>> It even happens when the radio is in-use and suddenly has the radio >>> disconnect from the computer. >>> >>> So, the only answer is the standard "make certain it clicks", which it >>> does? >>> >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to kevin.stover at mediacombb.net >> >> > > -- > R. Kevin Stover > AC0H > ARRL > FISTS #11993 > SKCC #215 > NAQCC #3441 > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2av.guy at gmail.com > From w7ox at socal.rr.com Sun May 1 20:58:51 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 17:58:51 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment In-Reply-To: References: <57268A37.7080605@arrl.net> <14bcf3b6-3658-18fb-8615-07ff0694d44a@embarqmail.com> <57269D28.4050500@mediacombb.net> Message-ID: <5726A64B.8020006@socal.rr.com> Re "There may be a pure, kind, likable, friendly, softhearted and honorable RJ45 out there, that never caused anyone any trouble, that will suffer prejudice on account of this." Likely so, Guy: I build my own :-) 73, Phil W7OX On 5/1/16 5:53 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: > It is so easy to bust an RJ45 cable it really isn't funny. There are so > many ways to screw up the connector it isn't funny. > > Never trust an RJ45 cable, it only works if you can prove it works. > Otherwise it's something that Murphy has slipped into our usage to get > even. Maybe something inspired by Satan to temp people to falsely blame the > people at Aptos and stir up strife on the reflector. > > If the radio ever accidentally gets lifted or pulled by an RJ45 cable... > Heh, heh. > > It's possible to have one of the wires in the cable break and have the rest > of the cable hold it together, with two broken ends touching each other, > whenever they feel like it. Very intermittent. When you move the rig to > find the trouble, the movement of the cord can re-touch the wires and the > trouble go away. As soon as you put it back trouble comes back. > > You think I'm exaggerating or kidding? I'm not. Been there, done that, been > exasperated, gone round the bush multiple times trying to chase down a > @$*&^@&%$% intermittent trouble. > > Treat them like they're cheep cr*p, because they all are. They were > DESIGNED to be cheep and do away with all that manually expensive cording > for phones and phone style connected devices. Larger stranded wires with > crimp screw eyes are much more durable, but cost a lot more. It's all about > money and easy to assemble at the factory, or dump it off on the installer > and don't pay for installation at all. > > Never pull on them. Never drop anything on them. Never stretch/straighten > them out by holding the connectors. Never force an RJ45 into its socket if > it doesn't want to go. Find out what's wrong first. Never use them to > connect to something that is vibrating, or gets regular motion. > > If anything involving an RJ45 cord doesn't work, rule out the RJ45 first. > Save yourself time and frustration. > > There may be a pure, kind, likable, friendly, softhearted and honorable > RJ45 out there, that never caused anyone any trouble, that will suffer > prejudice on account of this. Poor thing will just have to deal with it. > His fambly has a terrible reputation. > > 73, Guy. > > On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Kevin Stover > wrote: > >> I agree with Don. Try a new cable. >> >> It doesn't take a lot of flex to break one of those small solid copper >> wires. >> If it's broken in the connector it wasn't crimped well, as the standard >> RJ-45 has a strain relief built in that clamps down on the cable to keep it >> from pulling out. >> >> I just cringe when I see someone unpack a store bought cable, grab a hold >> of the connector and start straightening it out. >> >> On 5/1/2016 6:04 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >> >>> Byron, >>> >>> You might have a defective cable - get another one and see if the problem >>> goes away. >>> >>> 73, >>> Don W3FPR >>> >>> On 5/1/2016 6:59 PM, Byron Peebles wrote: >>> >>>> I have indeed done all the clicks and boot removals and been unable to >>>> resolve the disconnect. >>>> >>>> It even happens when the radio is in-use and suddenly has the radio >>>> disconnect from the computer. >>>> >>>> So, the only answer is the standard "make certain it clicks", which it >>>> does? >>>> >>>> From k9jri at mac.com Sun May 1 21:19:53 2016 From: k9jri at mac.com (Michael Blake) Date: Sun, 01 May 2016 21:19:53 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment In-Reply-To: <5726A64B.8020006@socal.rr.com> References: <57268A37.7080605@arrl.net> <14bcf3b6-3658-18fb-8615-07ff0694d44a@embarqmail.com> <57269D28.4050500@mediacombb.net> <5726A64B.8020006@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Just to be more accurate the term RJ45 defines the wiring of a 4 pair twisted cable (like a CAT3, CAT4, CAT5, CAT6) to an 8 position, 8 contact modular plug. The plug and jack are described by the number of available contact positions and the number of contacts installed in those positions. The most common failure point, in my experience, was the crimped connection at the male plug. Broken wire, bad crimp, wrong plug (there are different plugs for flat or round cable and then by stranded or solid conductors. There are even universal plugs that are supposed to work for either stranded or solid conductors but they are not quite as reliable as the correct stranded or solid wire connector. I wish the radio manufacturers had not used the incorrect term ?RJ45? to describe the 8 position modular plug and jack. Correctly used they are very reliable and VERY cheap. Michael Blake - K9JRI From mike at mdodd.com Sun May 1 21:30:13 2016 From: mike at mdodd.com (Mike Dodd) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 21:30:13 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RTTY In-Reply-To: <57269C1A.90201@triconet.org> References: <75f27.16b61fb4.44578298@aol.com> <0dc6f156-4869-44ed-a5d3-847d6bbf9ba6@embarqmail.com> <572695BB.3020009@mdodd.com> <57269C1A.90201@triconet.org> Message-ID: <5726ADA5.6080008@mdodd.com> On 5/1/2016 8:15 PM, Wes wrote: > Allow me to add a dissenting voice. I found it much easier (with > admittedly more clutter) to set proper audio/ALC levels with my K3 and > the computer sound card than I do with my K3S and the built in sound > card/USB interface. There are other issues related to Mic/Line > Level/VOX/Anti-VOX that I brought to Elecraft's attention 8 months ago > and that reportedly were "discovered" by one of their engineers before > my report and was going to be bumped up "the list." > > If this had been fixed, I wouldn't be bringing it up. Can you be more specific? I was able to set the audio transmit and receive levels without problem (at least I think so), and the VOX level too for use with MMTTY standalone (I use PTT with N1MM+/MMTTY). What else should I be looking for? Thank you. -- 73, Mike N4CF Louisa County, VA USA Elecraft K3s/100 Carolina Windom up 45' http://n4cf.mdodd.com From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Sun May 1 21:37:09 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 18:37:09 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment In-Reply-To: References: <57268A37.7080605@arrl.net> <14bcf3b6-3658-18fb-8615-07ff0694d44a@embarqmail.com> <57269D28.4050500@mediacombb.net> <5726A64B.8020006@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <5726AF45.20300@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Sun,5/1/2016 6:19 PM, Michael Blake wrote: > The plug and jack are described by the number of available contact positions and the number of contacts installed in those positions. The proper wiring of Ethernet cables REQUIRES that color code be strictly observed. An Ethernet cable is four twisted pairs, each having a different twist ratio. There's a Brown/White pair, an Orange/White pair, a Green/White pair, and a Blue/White pair. Those four pairs each carries a separate signal, and it is critical that crosstalk between pairs is minimized. Crosstalk rejection is provided two ways -- primarily by twisting, AND improved by each pair having a different twist ratio. In other words, simply having DC continuity between pins at each end of the cable is not enough -- they must be correctly paired, and those pairs most tightly twisted (for better noise rejection) are wired to their assigned pins. 73, Jim K9YC From n9tf at comcast.net Sun May 1 21:53:56 2016 From: n9tf at comcast.net (Gene Gabry) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 20:53:56 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RTTY In-Reply-To: <5726ADA5.6080008@mdodd.com> References: <75f27.16b61fb4.44578298@aol.com> <0dc6f156-4869-44ed-a5d3-847d6bbf9ba6@embarqmail.com> <572695BB.3020009@mdodd.com> <57269C1A.90201@triconet.org> <5726ADA5.6080008@mdodd.com> Message-ID: <00a301d1a415$7d34b610$779e2230$@net> Wes, I am also curious of any issues that might be unresolved? I've been using the sound card in the K3S with N1MM+ and MMTTY as the engine, and it's been plug and play since day one. I don't use VOX to key, as either with MMTTY by itself or with N1MM+, I use the PTT line, and all is good. Just curious what I might need to watch for? 73 Gene, N9TF K3S 10057 -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Dodd Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 8:30 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RTTY On 5/1/2016 8:15 PM, Wes wrote: > Allow me to add a dissenting voice. I found it much easier (with > admittedly more clutter) to set proper audio/ALC levels with my K3 and > the computer sound card than I do with my K3S and the built in sound > card/USB interface. There are other issues related to Mic/Line > Level/VOX/Anti-VOX that I brought to Elecraft's attention 8 months ago > and that reportedly were "discovered" by one of their engineers before > my report and was going to be bumped up "the list." > > If this had been fixed, I wouldn't be bringing it up. Can you be more specific? I was able to set the audio transmit and receive levels without problem (at least I think so), and the VOX level too for use with MMTTY standalone (I use PTT with N1MM+/MMTTY). What else should I be looking for? Thank you. -- 73, Mike N4CF Louisa County, VA USA Elecraft K3s/100 Carolina Windom up 45' http://n4cf.mdodd.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n9tf at comcast.net From k9jri at mac.com Sun May 1 22:30:20 2016 From: k9jri at mac.com (Michael Blake) Date: Sun, 01 May 2016 22:30:20 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment In-Reply-To: <5726AF45.20300@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <57268A37.7080605@arrl.net> <14bcf3b6-3658-18fb-8615-07ff0694d44a@embarqmail.com> <57269D28.4050500@mediacombb.net> <5726A64B.8020006@socal.rr.com> <5726AF45.20300@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <0953151E-8E08-440A-963D-8CCE05634E1A@mac.com> Those specific connections are exactly what "RJ45" describe. Michael Blake - K9JRI > On May 1, 2016, at 21:37, Jim Brown wrote: > >> On Sun,5/1/2016 6:19 PM, Michael Blake wrote: >> The plug and jack are described by the number of available contact positions and the number of contacts installed in those positions. > > The proper wiring of Ethernet cables REQUIRES that color code be strictly observed. An Ethernet cable is four twisted pairs, each having a different twist ratio. There's a Brown/White pair, an Orange/White pair, a Green/White pair, and a Blue/White pair. > > Those four pairs each carries a separate signal, and it is critical that crosstalk between pairs is minimized. Crosstalk rejection is provided two ways -- primarily by twisting, AND improved by each pair having a different twist ratio. > > In other words, simply having DC continuity between pins at each end of the cable is not enough -- they must be correctly paired, and those pairs most tightly twisted (for better noise rejection) are wired to their assigned pins. > > 73, Jim K9YC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k9jri at mac.com From k2av.guy at gmail.com Sun May 1 22:38:18 2016 From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 22:38:18 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment In-Reply-To: References: <57268A37.7080605@arrl.net> <14bcf3b6-3658-18fb-8615-07ff0694d44a@embarqmail.com> <57269D28.4050500@mediacombb.net> <5726A64B.8020006@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Michael Blake wrote: > Correctly used they are very reliable That's really the rub isn't it. Awful lot of UNcorrect use out in hamdom. Not a little by myself, either, before I knew any better. 73, Guy K2AV From byron at n6nul.org Sun May 1 22:53:51 2016 From: byron at n6nul.org (Byron Servies) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 19:53:51 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment In-Reply-To: <0953151E-8E08-440A-963D-8CCE05634E1A@mac.com> References: <57268A37.7080605@arrl.net> <14bcf3b6-3658-18fb-8615-07ff0694d44a@embarqmail.com> <57269D28.4050500@mediacombb.net> <5726A64B.8020006@socal.rr.com> <5726AF45.20300@audiosystemsgroup.com> <0953151E-8E08-440A-963D-8CCE05634E1A@mac.com> Message-ID: There are 2 wiring standards for cat5/5e/6 cable into RJ45 style modular plugs: EIA/TIA-568A and EIA/TIA-568B (aka T568A and T568B). They are slightly different, and both work to gigabit speeds. You can mix them, but in a data center, for example, they will try to stick with 1 or the other. For my station, I use shielded cat6 with Molex cat6 shielded RJ45 modular plugs compatible with the Neutrik etherCon series cable ends. It can be a bit of a pain getting the loading bar for the modular plugs installed properly, but once put together, they work great. 73, Byron N6NUL On Sunday, May 1, 2016, Michael Blake wrote: > Those specific connections are exactly what "RJ45" describe. > -- - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Mon May 2 00:35:51 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Sun, 01 May 2016 20:35:51 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment Message-ID: <201605020436.u424auhV004886@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> I've seen so many uses that were not adhering to the standard 4-pair. But the most miserable use is as a mic connector which Motorola went to. Now I see many ham radio mfr's copying. Instead of molded multi-contact connector with set screw which holds contact tension its just wiggle wiggle that poor RJ45. But I suppose all the old wise RF designers have retired leaving only the digital junkies "who said why not use a cheap RJ-45". Bean counters rejoiced! Very happily retired not having to deal with such. I am moving more and more toward less use of connectors of any kind (Murphy loves 'em). 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com Mon May 2 00:53:53 2016 From: KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 21:53:53 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment In-Reply-To: <201605020436.u424auhV004886@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201605020436.u424auhV004886@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <86db298a-b21f-ea10-87e4-15960bfb2d6e@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Microphone connectors fail eventually, even the well-made ones with set screws and clamps. There is one advantage to the RJ-45 -- it's easy to clip off a little wire and crimp on a new one. Replacing a more traditional connector is much harder. 73 -- Lynn On 5/1/2016 9:35 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: > But the most miserable use is as a mic connector which Motorola went > to. Now I see many ham radio mfr's copying. Instead of molded > multi-contact connector with set screw which holds contact tension its > just wiggle wiggle that poor RJ45. From vk5zm at bistre.net Mon May 2 01:24:18 2016 From: vk5zm at bistre.net (Matthew Cook) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 14:54:18 +0930 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment In-Reply-To: <86db298a-b21f-ea10-87e4-15960bfb2d6e@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> References: <201605020436.u424auhV004886@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> <86db298a-b21f-ea10-87e4-15960bfb2d6e@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Message-ID: Unfortunately it's not the plug that gets flogged by the wiggle wiggle wiggle... it's the socket. \Replacing the socket of a RJ45 in any piece of equipment that has been flogged to death is a little more than most Hams can cope with. The quality of the sockets that most manufacturers use is also questionable, some are nothing more than wire pins bent within a plastic frame, cheap and very nasty. Having fought a loosing battle with Kenwood microphones in my 4WD, I've now replaced the lot with something far more robust that has pins and positive mec mechanical locking, no more plastic clips or bent pieces of wire and my problems have reduces significantly. The RJ45 sockets should stay where they were originally intended in IT racking equipment where they are not disturbed, they are not really intended for use i mobile/portable/high use equipment. 73 Matthew VK5ZM On 2 May 2016 at 14:23, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: > Microphone connectors fail eventually, even the well-made ones with set > screws and clamps. > > There is one advantage to the RJ-45 -- it's easy to clip off a little wire > and crimp on a new one. > > Replacing a more traditional connector is much harder. > > 73 -- Lynn > > On 5/1/2016 9:35 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: > >> But the most miserable use is as a mic connector which Motorola went to. >> Now I see many ham radio mfr's copying. Instead of molded multi-contact >> connector with set screw which holds contact tension its just wiggle wiggle >> that poor RJ45. >> > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to vk5zm at bistre.net > From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Mon May 2 03:44:36 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 00:44:36 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment In-Reply-To: <0953151E-8E08-440A-963D-8CCE05634E1A@mac.com> References: <57268A37.7080605@arrl.net> <14bcf3b6-3658-18fb-8615-07ff0694d44a@embarqmail.com> <57269D28.4050500@mediacombb.net> <5726A64B.8020006@socal.rr.com> <5726AF45.20300@audiosystemsgroup.com> <0953151E-8E08-440A-963D-8CCE05634E1A@mac.com> Message-ID: <57270564.3030005@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Sun,5/1/2016 7:30 PM, Michael Blake wrote: > Those specific connections are exactly what "RJ45" describe. You are mistaken. RJ45 defines the CONNECTOR. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RJ45 TIA/EIA-568A and 568B define pin assignments https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TIA/EIA-568 73, Jim K9YC From M0XDF at Alphadene.co.uk Mon May 2 06:16:42 2016 From: M0XDF at Alphadene.co.uk (David Ferrington, M0XDF) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 11:16:42 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] Another W2 question - 13.6v DC on coax Message-ID: <0C5F58A2-D030-41FB-9AC4-B52DA197BD66@Alphadene.co.uk> Hi again, if I were to feed 13.6v DC on my coax via a bias-tee would that affect a DC-V/U-200 sensor? The preamp at the top of the mast will take the DC off, but I?d prefer to put the sensor before the preamp if possible. 73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108) From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Mon May 2 08:38:57 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 05:38:57 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RTTY In-Reply-To: <57269C1A.90201@triconet.org> References: <75f27.16b61fb4.44578298@aol.com> <0dc6f156-4869-44ed-a5d3-847d6bbf9ba6@embarqmail.com> <572695BB.3020009@mdodd.com> <57269C1A.90201@triconet.org> Message-ID: <57274A61.4080906@triconet.org> http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Mic-VOX-interaction-td7606353.html On 5/1/2016 5:15 PM, Wes wrote: > Allow me to add a dissenting voice. I found it much easier (with admittedly > more clutter) to set proper audio/ALC levels with my K3 and the computer sound > card than I do with my K3S and the built in sound card/USB interface. There > are other issues related to Mic/Line Level/VOX/Anti-VOX that I brought to > Elecraft's attention 8 months ago and that reportedly were "discovered" by one > of their engineers before my report and was going to be bumped up "the list." > > If this had been fixed, I wouldn't be bringing it up. > > From rodenkirch_llc at msn.com Mon May 2 10:01:19 2016 From: rodenkirch_llc at msn.com (Jim Rodenkirch) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 07:01:19 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement In-Reply-To: <57264323.8090904@coho.net> References: <57264323.8090904@coho.net> Message-ID: <1462197679447-7617035.post@n2.nabble.com> Kevin: with the assumption the net start time(s) are not geographic centric, what are some of the "techniques" you would/did/think of altering/adapting to?? 71.5/72 de Jim Rodenkirch K9JWV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Elecraft-CW-Net-Announcement-tp7616983p7617035.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From frantz at pwpconsult.com Mon May 2 10:54:55 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 07:54:55 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment Message-ID: I find these connectors to be among the most reliable connectors I use. I use them for my home network, as well as various other places where manufacturer's have placed them (e.g. the IC706 mic connector in my 4Runner). The pigtail I use to connect my computer to the network is missing the latching prong on the computer end. Sure, it occasionally falls out, but if the plug is in the computer, the connection works. I believe the K-POD knob will connect to the K3(S) with this connector. On the unreliable end, I have had problems with 3.5mm audio plugs (not fully seated) and the 2.1mm power plug on the KX3 etc. (exposed plus lead shorting and blowing fuses). However, the worst has been the AC power connector found on the rear of many pieces of equipment including monitors and computers. It allows the manufacturer to use different AC power cords for different wall plug conventions. After working, sometimes for years, it corrodes and fails to power the equipment. Unplugging and replugging doesn't fix it. Running a file down inside the female connectors usually fixes it. These connectors will be the first target for my new bottles of DeOxIt. 73 Bill AE6JV On 5/1/16 at 4:36 PM, k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) wrote: >"Click" is all we have to determine if it's seated, so I guess >"Yes", that's all there is. I'd try another cable. My >experience with RJ-45's is in large, tied bundles fanning out >to a rack of routers or other devices. Nothing moves, it's all >tied down. In single lots, RJ-45's leave a bit to be desired >if there's any mechanical strain. They're crimped, with a >special tool. Some tools, like maybe what the ATT tech carries >are good and do a reliable job, others from you-know-where ... >maybe not so much. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Since the IBM Selectric, keyboards have gotten 408-356-8506 | steadily worse. Now we have touchscreen keyboards. www.pwpconsult.com | Can we make something even worse? From joe at selectconnect.net Mon May 2 10:53:10 2016 From: joe at selectconnect.net (Joe Moffatt) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 14:53:10 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Solar backpacking power advice Message-ID: Hey guys... I tried to search through the list to find what I wanted, but I can't find exactly the info I think I need. Anyhow, I am trying to figure out what to use for portable solar rechargeable power while backpacking in the mountains. My typical trip will be 2-3 days, a few hours a day operating primarily CW. 5 watts is fine for CW.... Anyhow, I am curious for recommendations. Thanks, Joe AB5OR Tupelo, MS From wunder at wunderwood.org Mon May 2 12:02:13 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 09:02:13 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Solar backpacking power advice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1DB75EB5-6740-49A1-B691-381B372506C9@wunderwood.org> If you don?t mind non-rechargeable batteries, AA lithium primary cells are the lightest option. They are about 0.5 ounce each, so a 3000 mAh set weighs 4 ounces. Carrying a spare set of those will be lighter than a solar panel. They are also 1.5 V, so you get 36 Wh from a set instead of 25 Wh from a set of 2500 mAh NiMh cell. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On May 2, 2016, at 7:53 AM, Joe Moffatt wrote: > > Hey guys... > > I tried to search through the list to find what I wanted, but I can't find exactly the info I think I need. > > Anyhow, I am trying to figure out what to use for portable solar rechargeable power while backpacking in the mountains. My typical trip will be 2-3 days, a few hours a day operating primarily CW. 5 watts is fine for CW.... > > Anyhow, I am curious for recommendations. > > Thanks, > > Joe > AB5OR > Tupelo, MS > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Mon May 2 12:19:25 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 09:19:25 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Solar backpacking power advice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57277E0D.6000402@audiosystemsgroup.com> Joe, I'm not sure how exact you need info to be, but there's been a lot of it here, some of it from me. I and others have recommended LiFePO4 batteries from Bioenno Power for this application. They had a booth at the Visalia hamfest last month. https://www.bioennopower.com/collections/12v-series-lifepo4-batteries This company is also a known good source. http://www.batteryspace.com/128vlifepo4batterypacks.aspx Both are small companies located in California, both are easy to talk to via email and land line, both are good to deal with. Both sell battery packs assembled from a Chinese factory with whom they have a direct relationship, in many sizes and shapes to fit all sorts of replacement applications. I bought a 20Ah battery and charger from Bioenno Power. 73, Jim K9YC On Mon,5/2/2016 7:53 AM, Joe Moffatt wrote: > Hey guys... > > I tried to search through the list to find what I wanted, but I can't find exactly the info I think I need. > > Anyhow, I am trying to figure out what to use for portable solar rechargeable power while backpacking in the mountains. My typical trip will be 2-3 days, a few hours a day operating primarily CW. 5 watts is fine for CW.... > > Anyhow, I am curious for recommendations. > > From Gary at ka1j.com Mon May 2 12:29:53 2016 From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith) Date: Mon, 02 May 2016 12:29:53 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric Message-ID: <57278081.25444.40C1D1@Gary.ka1j.com> Folks, Till now I've kept my thoughts to myself regarding some of the lengthy threads here, discussing other radios/Competition for Elecraft products. I personally find these threads irritating and here is why: This is the only place on the internet where I can find answers to my questions about the K3 and K3s I own and I don't like seeing it used as a platform for discussing the pros & Cons of non Elecraft radios. I can't imagine going to an Icom forum and discussing at length my and other's opinions about Elecraft or any other manufacturer. The only reason I would dream of going to any brand specific forum is to hear information on that manufacturer's radios. Before I joined this forum close to 10 years ago, I was on the TenTec reflector, reading daily as I wanted to buy one of the newer radios with better hearing than my Corsair II. At that time I was considering the Orion line. I had been disappointed with how that company at the time, was not handling some of the long term complaints I was reading on their reflector about a lack of updates and issues with end of life parts being soon unobtanium. With that being a real concern to me, I looked to threads on the eHam forums and read about Elecraft in the discussions and found this reflector. I used this Elecraft forum as a learning tool before buying my first K3 and appreciated the dedication of the members and then to my pleasant surprise to find the owners of the company were frequent, often daily contributors to the threads. It took me awhile to realize I wasn't interested in a K1 or K2 but the K3 was going to fit my needs and it was made in America and I wasn't going to buy from overseas if what I want was made here. That an option to buy a kit was included made it a lock for me to buy the K3 kit with most all of the options available. But my point being what I said that above; I turned to this forum to hear about Elecraft products and issues, not to read lengthy discussions about competitors products. I still consider that is the purpose of this forum and I am bemused why people tout other equipment here, it's just bad form. I would consider myself being rude and a jerk if I went to the Icom forum and started threads about how wonderful my Elecraft XYZ was. Just my 2 cents. 73 to all, Gary KA1J K3s #10622 K3 #2382 From kengkopp at gmail.com Mon May 2 12:39:39 2016 From: kengkopp at gmail.com (Ken G Kopp) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 10:39:39 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric In-Reply-To: <57278081.25444.40C1D1@Gary.ka1j.com> References: <57278081.25444.40C1D1@Gary.ka1j.com> Message-ID: Well-said, Gary ... This was a topic at our local coffee gathering this AM. 73 Ken - K0PP 73 Ken, K0PP On May 2, 2016 10:30, "Gary Smith" wrote: > Folks, > > Till now I've kept my thoughts to myself regarding some of the > lengthy threads here, discussing other radios/Competition for > Elecraft products. I personally find these threads irritating and > here is why: > > This is the only place on the internet where I can find answers to my > questions about the K3 and K3s I own and I don't like seeing it used > as a platform for discussing the pros & Cons of non Elecraft radios. > > I can't imagine going to an Icom forum and discussing at length my > and other's opinions about Elecraft or any other manufacturer. The > only reason I would dream of going to any brand specific forum is to > hear information on that manufacturer's radios. > > Before I joined this forum close to 10 years ago, I was on the TenTec > reflector, reading daily as I wanted to buy one of the newer radios > with better hearing than my Corsair II. At that time I was > considering the Orion line. I had been disappointed with how that > company at the time, was not handling some of the long term > complaints I was reading on their reflector about a lack of updates > and issues with end of life parts being soon unobtanium. With that > being a real concern to me, I looked to threads on the eHam forums > and read about Elecraft in the discussions and found this reflector. > > I used this Elecraft forum as a learning tool before buying my first > K3 and appreciated the dedication of the members and then to my > pleasant surprise to find the owners of the company were frequent, > often daily contributors to the threads. It took me awhile to realize > I wasn't interested in a K1 or K2 but the K3 was going to fit my > needs and it was made in America and I wasn't going to buy from > overseas if what I want was made here. That an option to buy a kit > was included made it a lock for me to buy the K3 kit with most all of > the options available. > > But my point being what I said that above; I turned to this forum to > hear about Elecraft products and issues, not to read lengthy > discussions about competitors products. I still consider that is the > purpose of this forum and I am bemused why people tout other > equipment here, it's just bad form. I would consider myself being > rude and a jerk if I went to the Icom forum and started threads about > how wonderful my Elecraft XYZ was. > > Just my 2 cents. > > 73 to all, > > Gary > KA1J > K3s #10622 > K3 #2382 > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kengkopp at gmail.com > From w7ox at socal.rr.com Mon May 2 12:42:29 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 09:42:29 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric In-Reply-To: <57278081.25444.40C1D1@Gary.ka1j.com> References: <57278081.25444.40C1D1@Gary.ka1j.com> Message-ID: <57278375.4090307@socal.rr.com> Gary, Although I only use Elecraft gear at this point -- and have been in that situation since my first K2 build increment in 1999 -- I'm always interested in what else is out there, and don't regard this reflector as "Holy Ground". Nor have I seen any messages I would regard as saying "how wonderful" any other (non-Elecraft) rig is. But, in the end, such judgments regarding acceptable content and topics are made by Eric. 73, Phil W7OX On 5/2/16 9:29 AM, Gary Smith wrote: > Folks, > > Till now I've kept my thoughts to myself regarding some of the > lengthy threads here, discussing other radios/Competition for > Elecraft products. I personally find these threads irritating and > here is why: > > This is the only place on the internet where I can find answers to my > questions about the K3 and K3s I own and I don't like seeing it used > as a platform for discussing the pros & Cons of non Elecraft radios. > > I can't imagine going to an Icom forum and discussing at length my > and other's opinions about Elecraft or any other manufacturer. The > only reason I would dream of going to any brand specific forum is to > hear information on that manufacturer's radios. > > Before I joined this forum close to 10 years ago, I was on the TenTec > reflector, reading daily as I wanted to buy one of the newer radios > with better hearing than my Corsair II. At that time I was > considering the Orion line. I had been disappointed with how that > company at the time, was not handling some of the long term > complaints I was reading on their reflector about a lack of updates > and issues with end of life parts being soon unobtanium. With that > being a real concern to me, I looked to threads on the eHam forums > and read about Elecraft in the discussions and found this reflector. > > I used this Elecraft forum as a learning tool before buying my first > K3 and appreciated the dedication of the members and then to my > pleasant surprise to find the owners of the company were frequent, > often daily contributors to the threads. It took me awhile to realize > I wasn't interested in a K1 or K2 but the K3 was going to fit my > needs and it was made in America and I wasn't going to buy from > overseas if what I want was made here. That an option to buy a kit > was included made it a lock for me to buy the K3 kit with most all of > the options available. > > But my point being what I said that above; I turned to this forum to > hear about Elecraft products and issues, not to read lengthy > discussions about competitors products. I still consider that is the > purpose of this forum and I am bemused why people tout other > equipment here, it's just bad form. I would consider myself being > rude and a jerk if I went to the Icom forum and started threads about > how wonderful my Elecraft XYZ was. > > Just my 2 cents. > > 73 to all, > > Gary > KA1J > K3s #10622 > K3 #2382 From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Mon May 2 12:51:52 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 09:51:52 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric In-Reply-To: <57278081.25444.40C1D1@Gary.ka1j.com> References: <57278081.25444.40C1D1@Gary.ka1j.com> Message-ID: <572785A8.20103@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Mon,5/2/2016 9:29 AM, Gary Smith wrote: > I don't like seeing it used as a platform for discussing the pros & Cons of non Elecraft radios. I don't have that objection as long as it doesn't consume the reflector. I don't worship my radios nor the companies that build them. I do value input from others when it is intelligent and based on facts and logic. Because I own Ten Tec power amps (and used to own an Omni V+), I'm also a member of a Ten Tec reflector. Those guys DO worship their radios AND the company that bought the remains of the company that bought the company that produced them decades ago. There will always be new products and advertising for them that claims they are the equal of the best of their competitors, or nearly as good for a lot less money. Where else will we learn the facts? Certainly not from the cheerleading email reflectors for the companies that sell them! SDR technology IS important to advancing the state of our art, and there are some pretty good SDR radios on the market now. Their capabilities are currently limited by the chips that are currently available, but that will not always be true. 73, Jim K9YC From pscovell at newlyntech.com Mon May 2 12:52:17 2016 From: pscovell at newlyntech.com (Peter Scovell) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 12:52:17 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] A helpful review... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <572785C1.6040104@newlyntech.com> Thanks Tom. I also find Adam's reviews very helpful as well as his work on advancing the NPR test method to bridge the legacy world (K3, etc) to the new family of DDC/DUC SDR transceivers. I have found the odd comments by some other readers of this mailing list somewhat parochial in outlook in that they seem to want to see and hear only items relating to Elecraft gear and not be informed of other new and exciting developments occurring in our hobby. I have built and own many fine (and not so fine) Elecraft radios and test gear so in the main, I have a great respect for Elecraft equipment but not at the exclusion of other brands. I also own Flex, Yaesu, Elad and gear from many other manufacturers. I encourage all Elecrafters to embrace new radio architectures and to avoid criticism of other companies who are trying to advance the hobby. I'm sure Elecraft will eventually adopt newer (and better) architectures and look forward to Adam's evaluation of such new kit. -- 73, Peter VE3LTI From no9e at arrl.net Mon May 2 13:14:58 2016 From: no9e at arrl.net (Ignacy) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 10:14:58 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Solar backpacking power advice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1462209298294-7617044.post@n2.nabble.com> Probably the weight is a concern. You may use a foldable panel (e.g., 5W) and either charge internal rechargables or external Lithium.I was frustrated with foldable panels because of low output under less than perfect sun and poor reliability. The other option is to take enough Li-Ion batteries. I prefer Li-ion instead of LiFe-PO3 because of lower weight. A 11.1V (12.6V peak) 5A battery weights 300g (10oz) and should last a few days. Note that KX3 uses almost half current at 5W if supplied with > 11V. Ignacy, NO9E -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-Solar-backpacking-power-advice-tp7617037p7617044.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From eric at elecraft.com Mon May 2 13:23:48 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 10:23:48 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric In-Reply-To: <57278081.25444.40C1D1@Gary.ka1j.com> References: <57278081.25444.40C1D1@Gary.ka1j.com> Message-ID: Folks - Its within list guidelines for -short- discussions on topics only peripherally related to Elecraft topics, but extended discussions pro/con etc on competition etc should be limited here to a few posts and then taken to direct personal email. Its certainly pertinent info on other products to be posted,m but we do not want that to dominate list traffic. Our goal is to first and foremost provide a forum for discussions of Elecraft products, third party products for Elecraft rigs and discussion of related technologies. We purposely do not 100% limit postings to Elecraft products since both we and many readers benefit from these outside topics, including competitive analysis. But when these OT threads get past 5-10 postings, please limit them and take the conversation off list in the interest of keeping the volume of list postings under control. 73, Eric List moderator and cheerleader /elecraft.com/ From softblue at windstream.net Mon May 2 13:33:23 2016 From: softblue at windstream.net (Dick Dickinson) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 13:33:23 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric Message-ID: <001201d1a498$ba8a11d0$2f9e3570$@windstream.net> Other than my mobile rig, I run Elecraft. I appreciate being able to keep up with the news regarding Elecraft products. However I appreciate that Eric has chosen to let this reflector be somewhat open to general radio topics. By nature that sometimes includes discussion of non-Elecraft products. I have seen this reflector as much of being a 'club' rather than a forum with a strictly focused on Elecraft. That factor may be useful for many, particularly newer operators who might have questions along the lines of antennas, operating circumstances and conventions, as well as accessories (Elecraft or other). I know it would be awkward for me to manage the forum via email. I choose to view it via qth.com/pipermail. This is very easy and manageable for me. I mostly keep up with the forum in a linear, time wise fashion. That my browser highlights the last read post after I've selected it, I always know where I've left off. http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft... is sent as my homepage for my browser. Your experience may differ. I'd like to encourage Eric and the powers that be to continue the somewhat open perspective here, though I realize that one's mode of reception of the posts may cause consternation for some. Were I to offer complaint on content, it might be when people begin to hammer at length on matters having to do with 'my radio is better than theirs' when it relates to items well to the right of the decimal point. In general, I think the somewhat open approach that has been allowed serves amateur radio and Elecraft well. 73, Dick - KA5KKT From joe at k2uf.com Mon May 2 13:33:00 2016 From: joe at k2uf.com (Joe K2UF) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 13:33:00 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 commands Message-ID: Is there a way to cable the K3/P3/KPA500 to send KPA500 macro commands via the P3/SVGA macro utility. 73 Joe K2UF From kh2tj at sbcglobal.net Mon May 2 13:40:03 2016 From: kh2tj at sbcglobal.net (Todd) Date: Mon, 02 May 2016 10:40:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Solar backpacking power advice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <572790F3.9090303@sbcglobal.net> I've done this. For a 2 - 3 day trip, you'll be fine with some of the batteries that K9YC mentioned. Bioenno is/was giving a discount to the active SOTA group. In the past, on short trips I've found that if you're not going to stay put in one area, then you wont need solar at all. The LiFePO4's will be plenty. Until I started using the LiFePO4's, I used an Energizer XP8000, roll up thin film panels (2 @10Watts), and the solar charger that the Buddipole guys sell. It's what I had from days of playing out in the hills. The Energizer is slick in that it will take 19V from the panels and charge, while also providing several outputs for laptop, cell phones, radios, etc. Kinda pricey though. I stay with the 12.6V LiFePO4's. When not playing radio, can be used for other camp chores/duties like LED lighting, cell phone, camera, etc etc.... Have fun. 73, Todd KH2TJ Joe Moffatt wrote: > Anyhow, I am trying to figure out what to use for portable solar rechargeable power while backpacking in the mountains. My typical trip will be 2-3 days, a few hours a day operating primarily CW. 5 watts is fine for CW.... > > > From k9jri at mac.com Mon May 2 13:41:35 2016 From: k9jri at mac.com (Michael Blake) Date: Mon, 02 May 2016 13:41:35 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] TX Noise Gate on KX3 kills VOX delay setting In-Reply-To: <62A9A166-D3E4-4C42-918C-10DF06F1377D@mac.com> References: <62A9A166-D3E4-4C42-918C-10DF06F1377D@mac.com> Message-ID: I only received two customer responses and they both confirmed what I am seeing on my KX3. I have forwarded the issue as a ?bug? to Elecraft support. Michael Blake k9jri at mac.com > On Apr 30, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Michael Blake wrote: > > Has anyone else noticed this TX Noise Gate versus VOX Delay setting interaction? > > Michael Blake > k9jri at mac.com > > > > > > >> On Apr 29, 2016, at 7:08 PM, Michael Blake wrote: >> >> When the TX Noise Gate is set to ?On? with any gate level more than ?00? the VOX delay setting is ignored and the VOX drops out immediately. Is this by design? >> >> I am using MCU version 2.34 and DSP version 1.33 >> >> Michael Blake >> k9jri at mac.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k9jri at mac.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k9jri at mac.com From hlyingst at yahoo.com Mon May 2 13:42:04 2016 From: hlyingst at yahoo.com (Harry Yingst) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 17:42:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1007018462.4896165.1462210924506.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I also have been thinking this lately If it's not an Elecraft product then please use the appropriate forum. From: Ken G Kopp To: Gary at ka1j.com; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric Well-said, Gary ... This was a topic at our local coffee gathering this AM. 73 Ken - K0PP 73 Ken, K0PP On May 2, 2016 10:30, "Gary Smith" wrote: > Folks, > > Till now I've kept my thoughts to myself regarding some of the > lengthy threads here, discussing other radios/Competition for > Elecraft products. I personally find these threads irritating and > here is why: > > This is the only place on the internet where I can find answers to my > questions about the K3 and K3s I own and I don't like seeing it used > as a platform for discussing the pros & Cons of non Elecraft radios. > > I can't imagine going to an Icom forum and discussing at length my > and other's opinions about Elecraft or any other manufacturer. The > only reason I would dream of going to any brand specific forum is to > hear information on that manufacturer's radios. > > Before I joined this forum close to 10 years ago, I was on the TenTec > reflector, reading daily as I wanted to buy one of the newer radios > with better hearing than my Corsair II. At that time I was > considering the Orion line. I had been disappointed with how that > company at the time, was not handling some of the long term > complaints I was reading on their reflector about a lack of updates > and issues with end of life parts being soon unobtanium. With that > being a real concern to me, I looked to threads on the eHam forums > and read about Elecraft in the discussions and found this reflector. > > I used this Elecraft forum as a learning tool before buying my first > K3 and appreciated the dedication of the members and then to my > pleasant surprise to find the owners of the company were frequent, > often daily contributors to the threads. It took me awhile to realize > I wasn't interested in a K1 or K2 but the K3 was going to fit my > needs and it was made in America and I wasn't going to buy from > overseas if what I want was made here. That an option to buy a kit > was included made it a lock for me to buy the K3 kit with most all of > the options available. > > But my point being what I said that above; I turned to this forum to > hear about Elecraft products and issues, not to read lengthy > discussions about competitors products. I still consider that is the > purpose of this forum and I am bemused why people tout other > equipment here, it's just bad form. I would consider myself being > rude and a jerk if I went to the Icom forum and started threads about > how wonderful my Elecraft XYZ was. > > Just my 2 cents. > > 73 to all, > > Gary > KA1J > K3s #10622 > K3? #2382 > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kengkopp at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hlyingst at yahoo.com From mike at k5ux.com Mon May 2 13:56:53 2016 From: mike at k5ux.com (Mike Gusky) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 10:56:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] For Sale: K3/100F, P3, and KAT500 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1462211813365-7617051.post@n2.nabble.com> Please contact me via email. I'm good in QRZ Mike K5UX -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/For-Sale-K3-100F-P3-and-KAT500-tp7616991p7617051.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From dave at nk7z.net Mon May 2 13:58:12 2016 From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole) Date: Mon, 02 May 2016 10:58:12 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric In-Reply-To: <57278081.25444.40C1D1@Gary.ka1j.com> References: <57278081.25444.40C1D1@Gary.ka1j.com> Message-ID: <1462211892.13468.22.camel@nk7z.net> Hi Gary,? This will continue to happen until the moderator cracks the whip... -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net For MixW support see: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info For SSTV help see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info On Mon, 2016-05-02 at 12:29 -0400, Gary Smith wrote: > Folks, > > Till now I've kept my thoughts to myself regarding some of the? > lengthy threads here, discussing other radios/Competition for? > Elecraft products. I personally find these threads irritating and? > here is why: > > This is the only place on the internet where I can find answers to > my? > questions about the K3 and K3s I own and I don't like seeing it used? > as a platform for discussing the pros & Cons of non Elecraft radios.? > > I can't imagine going to an Icom forum and discussing at length my? > and other's opinions about Elecraft or any other manufacturer. The? > only reason I would dream of going to any brand specific forum is to? > hear information on that manufacturer's radios. > > Before I joined this forum close to 10 years ago, I was on the > TenTec? > reflector, reading daily as I wanted to buy one of the newer radios? > with better hearing than my Corsair II. At that time I was? > considering the Orion line. I had been disappointed with how that? > company at the time, was not handling some of the long term? > complaints I was reading on their reflector about a lack of updates? > and issues with end of life parts being soon unobtanium. With that? > being a real concern to me, I looked to threads on the eHam forums? > and read about Elecraft in the discussions and found this reflector. > > I used this Elecraft forum as a learning tool before buying my first? > K3 and appreciated the dedication of the members and then to my? > pleasant surprise to find the owners of the company were frequent,? > often daily contributors to the threads. It took me awhile to > realize? > I wasn't interested in a K1 or K2 but the K3 was going to fit my? > needs and it was made in America and I wasn't going to buy from? > overseas if what I want was made here. That an option to buy a kit? > was included made it a lock for me to buy the K3 kit with most all > of? > the options available. > > But my point being what I said that above; I turned to this forum to? > hear about Elecraft products and issues, not to read lengthy? > discussions about competitors products. I still consider that is the? > purpose of this forum and I am bemused why people tout other? > equipment here, it's just bad form. I would consider myself being? > rude and a jerk if I went to the Icom forum and started threads > about? > how wonderful my Elecraft XYZ was. > > Just my 2 cents. > > 73 to all, > > Gary > KA1J > K3s #10622 > K3??#2382 > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dave at nk7z.net From frantz at pwpconsult.com Mon May 2 14:16:47 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 11:16:47 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] SteppIR antenna summary Message-ID: The responses about SteppIR antennas have died down so here is, as promised, the summary. Five people reported no problems with a total of 39 years of experience. An additional responder had no problems, but did not give the length of his experience. One of these responders is near the ocean. Another responder lives in coastal New England where he experiences high winds, but reports no weather related damage. He has not had a major ice storm, but did have damage from a lightning strike. Three people report failures in the EHU (the device that moves the extensible antenna element), including one "out of the box", two due to lightning strikes, and one due to an hour of 120 MPH winds. Another reports having to lower the antenna 4 times since 2004 for unspecified repairs. Several people point out that SteppIR has made significant improvements over the last 15 years, fixing some of the problems that caused early failures. One said that he had fewer problems with his 13 year old SteppIR than he had had with a Butternut vertical. Many say they get performance similar to what they would get with a bunch of monoband Yagis. Some sing the praises of crank-up/tilt-over towers to make antenna access easy. My take on all this is that the SteppIR antennas are significant mechanical devices, much more complex than multi and monobanders. Since any antenna can fail, there should be a repair plan for antennas. Given the time I've spent repairing my wire antennas, SteppIRs don't seem to be particularly unreliable. 73 Bill AE6JV ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | I don't have high-speed | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | internet. I have DSL. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | | Los Gatos, CA 95032 From xdavid at cis-broadband.com Mon May 2 14:19:23 2016 From: xdavid at cis-broadband.com (David Gilbert) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 11:19:23 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric In-Reply-To: <1007018462.4896165.1462210924506.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1007018462.4896165.1462210924506.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <57279A2B.7040709@cis-broadband.com> Thankfully you don't get to make that call, and Eric has already laid out the guidelines describing to what extent he considers pro/con comments on other rigs to be appropriate for this list. For me, I find it very valuable to understand how my K3 stacks up to other rigs as long as such posts don't dominate the list. I prefer not to live in a silo. Dave AB7E On 5/2/2016 10:42 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: > I also have been thinking this lately > If it's not an Elecraft product then please use the appropriate forum. > > > > > From: Ken G Kopp > To: Gary at ka1j.com; elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 12:39 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric > > Well-said, Gary ... > > This was a topic at our local coffee gathering this AM. > > 73 > > Ken - K0PP > > 73 > > Ken, K0PP > On May 2, 2016 10:30, "Gary Smith" wrote: > >> Folks, >> >> Till now I've kept my thoughts to myself regarding some of the >> lengthy threads here, discussing other radios/Competition for >> Elecraft products. I personally find these threads irritating and >> here is why: >> >> This is the only place on the internet where I can find answers to my >> questions about the K3 and K3s I own and I don't like seeing it used >> as a platform for discussing the pros & Cons of non Elecraft radios. >> >> I can't imagine going to an Icom forum and discussing at length my >> and other's opinions about Elecraft or any other manufacturer. The >> only reason I would dream of going to any brand specific forum is to >> hear information on that manufacturer's radios. >> >> Before I joined this forum close to 10 years ago, I was on the TenTec >> reflector, reading daily as I wanted to buy one of the newer radios >> with better hearing than my Corsair II. At that time I was >> considering the Orion line. I had been disappointed with how that >> company at the time, was not handling some of the long term >> complaints I was reading on their reflector about a lack of updates >> and issues with end of life parts being soon unobtanium. With that >> being a real concern to me, I looked to threads on the eHam forums >> and read about Elecraft in the discussions and found this reflector. >> >> I used this Elecraft forum as a learning tool before buying my first >> K3 and appreciated the dedication of the members and then to my >> pleasant surprise to find the owners of the company were frequent, >> often daily contributors to the threads. It took me awhile to realize >> I wasn't interested in a K1 or K2 but the K3 was going to fit my >> needs and it was made in America and I wasn't going to buy from >> overseas if what I want was made here. That an option to buy a kit >> was included made it a lock for me to buy the K3 kit with most all of >> the options available. >> >> But my point being what I said that above; I turned to this forum to >> hear about Elecraft products and issues, not to read lengthy >> discussions about competitors products. I still consider that is the >> purpose of this forum and I am bemused why people tout other >> equipment here, it's just bad form. I would consider myself being >> rude and a jerk if I went to the Icom forum and started threads about >> how wonderful my Elecraft XYZ was. >> >> Just my 2 cents. >> >> 73 to all, >> >> Gary >> KA1J >> K3s #10622 >> K3 #2382 >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to kengkopp at gmail.com >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to hlyingst at yahoo.com > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to xdavid at cis-broadband.com From joe at selectconnect.net Mon May 2 14:48:46 2016 From: joe at selectconnect.net (Joe Moffatt) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 18:48:46 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric In-Reply-To: <57279A2B.7040709@cis-broadband.com> References: <1007018462.4896165.1462210924506.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <57279A2B.7040709@cis-broadband.com> Message-ID: This is very true to me as well. One thing that I am seeing in several places online right now is that the 7300 Icom is a big competitor to the KX3. A lot of folks are saying that why spend the money for a KX3 when you can have a panadapter, 100 watts, etc built in for much less money than the KX3/PX3/KPA100 combination. This is relative to Elecraft and the KX3 in particular because this may turn out to be a major competitor to the KX3 series, or not, but it is certainly a relative discussion. Anyhow, I don't mean to hijack the list, but other products do affect Elecraft and their users. Joe From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Gilbert Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 1:19 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric Thankfully you don't get to make that call, and Eric has already laid out the guidelines describing to what extent he considers pro/con comments on other rigs to be appropriate for this list. For me, I find it very valuable to understand how my K3 stacks up to other rigs as long as such posts don't dominate the list. I prefer not to live in a silo. Dave AB7E On 5/2/2016 10:42 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: > I also have been thinking this lately > If it's not an Elecraft product then please use the appropriate forum. > > > > > From: Ken G Kopp > To: Gary at ka1j.com; elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 12:39 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric > > Well-said, Gary ... > > This was a topic at our local coffee gathering this AM. > > 73 > > Ken - K0PP > > 73 > > Ken, K0PP > On May 2, 2016 10:30, "Gary Smith" wrote: > >> Folks, >> >> Till now I've kept my thoughts to myself regarding some of the >> lengthy threads here, discussing other radios/Competition for >> Elecraft products. I personally find these threads irritating and >> here is why: >> >> This is the only place on the internet where I can find answers to my >> questions about the K3 and K3s I own and I don't like seeing it used >> as a platform for discussing the pros & Cons of non Elecraft radios. >> >> I can't imagine going to an Icom forum and discussing at length my >> and other's opinions about Elecraft or any other manufacturer. The >> only reason I would dream of going to any brand specific forum is to >> hear information on that manufacturer's radios. >> >> Before I joined this forum close to 10 years ago, I was on the TenTec >> reflector, reading daily as I wanted to buy one of the newer radios >> with better hearing than my Corsair II. At that time I was >> considering the Orion line. I had been disappointed with how that >> company at the time, was not handling some of the long term >> complaints I was reading on their reflector about a lack of updates >> and issues with end of life parts being soon unobtanium. With that >> being a real concern to me, I looked to threads on the eHam forums >> and read about Elecraft in the discussions and found this reflector. >> >> I used this Elecraft forum as a learning tool before buying my first >> K3 and appreciated the dedication of the members and then to my >> pleasant surprise to find the owners of the company were frequent, >> often daily contributors to the threads. It took me awhile to realize >> I wasn't interested in a K1 or K2 but the K3 was going to fit my >> needs and it was made in America and I wasn't going to buy from >> overseas if what I want was made here. That an option to buy a kit >> was included made it a lock for me to buy the K3 kit with most all of >> the options available. >> >> But my point being what I said that above; I turned to this forum to >> hear about Elecraft products and issues, not to read lengthy >> discussions about competitors products. I still consider that is the >> purpose of this forum and I am bemused why people tout other >> equipment here, it's just bad form. I would consider myself being >> rude and a jerk if I went to the Icom forum and started threads about >> how wonderful my Elecraft XYZ was. >> >> Just my 2 cents. >> >> 73 to all, >> >> Gary >> KA1J >> K3s #10622 >> K3 #2382 >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to kengkopp at gmail.com >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to hlyingst at yahoo.com > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to xdavid at cis-broadband.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to joe at selectconnect.net ________________________________ Total Control Panel Login To: joe at selectconnect.net From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net Message Score: 1 High (60): Pass My Spam Blocking Level: Medium Medium (75): Pass Low (90): Pass Block this sender / Block this sender enterprise-wide Block mailman.qth.net / Block mailman.qth.net enterprise-wide This message was delivered because the content filter score did not exceed your filter level. From navydude1962 at yahoo.com Mon May 2 14:49:56 2016 From: navydude1962 at yahoo.com (Ed) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 21:49:56 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] Need Advice Message-ID: <3226EE97-8DF8-490E-A27D-BFB6C833FA39@yahoo.com> I have had my K3 for a few years and have always kept it up to date. It seems cheaper than taking a loss in selling it and springing for a K3S. I am about to send it in again for the new synth boards and DSP board swap, etc. In the end, I will have 90% of a K3S. Is this the way to go? Thanks, Ed NI6S From kengkopp at gmail.com Mon May 2 14:56:04 2016 From: kengkopp at gmail.com (Ken G Kopp) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 12:56:04 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] Need Advice In-Reply-To: <3226EE97-8DF8-490E-A27D-BFB6C833FA39@yahoo.com> References: <3226EE97-8DF8-490E-A27D-BFB6C833FA39@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Ed! I took the same route with K3 #0056 and am very pleased. Would do the same again. 73 Ken - K0PP On May 2, 2016 12:51, "Ed via Elecraft" wrote: > I have had my K3 for a few years and have always kept it up to date. It > seems cheaper than taking a loss in selling it and springing for a K3S. I > am about to send it in again for the new synth boards and DSP board swap, > etc. > > In the end, I will have 90% of a K3S. Is this the way to go? > > Thanks, > Ed NI6S > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kengkopp at gmail.com > From dave at w8fgu.com Mon May 2 15:00:10 2016 From: dave at w8fgu.com (Dave W8FGU) Date: Mon, 02 May 2016 19:00:10 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT]: Trying to contact Ken Kopp Message-ID: Sorry for the bandwidth folks... Ken, I've sent a few emails over the past few months but I have a feeling they're ending up in the bit bucket. If you would, contact me via dave at w8fgu dot com or give me a call at seven three four - 775.2636 Back to your regular programming ;-) 73, Dave W8FGU From KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com Mon May 2 15:15:32 2016 From: KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 12:15:32 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Solar backpacking power advice In-Reply-To: <1DB75EB5-6740-49A1-B691-381B372506C9@wunderwood.org> References: <1DB75EB5-6740-49A1-B691-381B372506C9@wunderwood.org> Message-ID: It's been a while since I've been backpacking, but this got me to thinking.... If you're actively hiking, you can't really hang a panel on your pack and plan on it being pointed at the sun. That means either staying put to charge batteries, or bigger panels for faster charging, or bigger batteries for the days you can't effectively charge, or something like that. Is solar charging in this case even practical? The bigger the panel, the heavier the load. A quick and dirty, conservative calculation suggests that the lithiums would be good for a couple of days of "a few hours" at 5 watts. Probably twice that at "an hour or so." 73 -- Lynn On 5/2/2016 9:02 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: > If you don?t mind non-rechargeable batteries, AA lithium primary cells are the lightest option. They are about 0.5 ounce each, so a 3000 mAh set weighs 4 ounces. Carrying a spare set of those will be lighter than a solar panel. They are also 1.5 V, so you get 36 Wh from a set instead of 25 Wh from a set of 2500 mAh NiMh cell. > > On May 2, 2016, at 7:53 AM, Joe Moffatt wrote: > > Anyhow, I am trying to figure out what to use for portable solar rechargeable power while backpacking in the mountains. My typical trip will be 2-3 days, a few hours a day operating primarily CW. 5 watts is fine for CW.... > From jermo at carolinaheli.com Mon May 2 15:16:05 2016 From: jermo at carolinaheli.com (Jerry) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 15:16:05 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Pre-purchase questions Message-ID: <1D5EDBF7-956D-40F9-9AF3-595D7AC96BBD@carolinaheli.com> I'm looking to buy a P3 to go with my K3s. Are the older P3's the same as the new ones or are there different hardware versions? I'm noticing some used P3's being offered recently for almost the same as new direct from Elecraft. Thanks in advance. Jer/AE4PB Sent from my iPad From DL1EKC at dl1ekc.de Sun May 1 15:08:41 2016 From: DL1EKC at dl1ekc.de (Marcus Busch [DL1EKC]) Date: Sun, 01 May 2016 21:08:41 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] KRC2 and KX3 Message-ID: Hi folks, I'm trying to interconnect my KX3 and KRC2. I read the posts on this topic dating back to early March. The KRC2 is a very versatile unit allowing parallel operation of band filters via the BCD outputs and antenna relays the same time. So I would really like to get the KRC2 running with my KX3. I have the basic KX3 interoperating with the KRC2, but I had to bridge D9 on the KRC2. Without this bridge serial comms via the KRC2 doesn't work here. Also the KRC2 utility does not find my KRC2 with 19200 bd but with slower speeds. I have jumpers W9, W10, W22, W23, W3 and W8 in, all others out. These are my configurations: 1) KX3 with KRC2 KRC2 and KX3 set to 19200 bd -> works 2) KX3 + PX3 with KRC2 KRC2 is set to 19200 bd, PX3 to 19200 bd and KX3 to 38400 bd -> works Comment: It seems the PX3 is relaying the rs232 comms to the KX3 with 38400 bd, which is indepentend from the PX3<->PC line speed. However, with the PX3 switched off but still connected in-line the KX3 RS232 speed has to be set to 19200 bd (passive pass-through). It took me quite some time to figure this out :-) . 3) KX3 + PX3 + KXPA100 with KRC2 KRC2 is set to 19200 bd, PX3 to 19200 bd and KX3 to 38400 bd. The RS232 connection chain is PC - KRC2 - KXPA100 - PX3 - KX3. KRC2 operation works, but I cannot operate the KXPA100. Upon setting pa mode to on the KXPA100 switches on. But after a few seconds the KX3 menu entry switches back to off, after a few more seconds the KXPA100 switches off. Note 1: When I disconnect the KRC2 from KXPA100 AND set the line speed in PX3 to 38400 bd, KXPA100 operation works. Note 2: If I leave the PX3 line rate at 19200 bd, serial comms from PC to KX3 is disrupted as long as the KXPA100 is on. I know all this is a bit confusing and I have no clue how to solve this. Anyone here can give an advice? Thanks for Your time. VY 73 Marcus, DL1EKC From ua9cdc at gmail.com Mon May 2 15:22:46 2016 From: ua9cdc at gmail.com (Igor Sokolov) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 00:22:46 +0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric References: <57278081.25444.40C1D1@Gary.ka1j.com> Message-ID: Nice bit about Ten-Tec on Elcraft reflector :) I do not mind info about non Elecraft equipment in comparison with Elecraft equipment. IMHO this is not OT at all. 73, Igor UA9CDC > Before I joined this forum close to 10 years ago, I was on the TenTec > reflector, reading daily as I wanted to buy one of the newer radios > with better hearing than my Corsair II. At that time I was > considering the Orion line. I had been disappointed with how that > company at the time, was not handling some of the long term > complaints I was reading on their reflector about a lack of updates > and issues with end of life parts being soon unobtanium. With that > being a real concern to me, I looked to threads on the eHam forums > and read about Elecraft in the discussions and found this reflector. > From kengkopp at gmail.com Mon May 2 15:39:38 2016 From: kengkopp at gmail.com (Ken G Kopp) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 13:39:38 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] [RE: (OT): Trying to contact Ken Kopp In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dave and I have "connected". The error was mine. (;-) Thanks for the bandwidth, and .... 73 Ken Kopp - K0PP From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Mon May 2 15:45:35 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 20:45:35 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] TX Noise Gate on KX3 kills VOX delay setting In-Reply-To: References: <62A9A166-D3E4-4C42-918C-10DF06F1377D@mac.com> Message-ID: <52A6280B-DB4A-4607-AD1D-C525A0FFD6BE@yahoo.co.uk> Thanks Michael, let us know when you hear anything back from them. I wonder if the same thing happens with a K3? 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 2 May 2016, at 18:41, Michael Blake wrote: > > I only received two customer responses and they both confirmed what I am seeing on my KX3. I have forwarded the issue as a ?bug? to Elecraft support. > > Michael Blake > k9jri at mac.com > > > > > > >> On Apr 30, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Michael Blake wrote: >> >> Has anyone else noticed this TX Noise Gate versus VOX Delay setting interaction? >> >> Michael Blake >> k9jri at mac.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Apr 29, 2016, at 7:08 PM, Michael Blake wrote: >>> >>> When the TX Noise Gate is set to ?On? with any gate level more than ?00? the VOX delay setting is ignored and the VOX drops out immediately. Is this by design? >>> >>> I am using MCU version 2.34 and DSP version 1.33 >>> >>> Michael Blake >>> k9jri at mac.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to k9jri at mac.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k9jri at mac.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk From dave at nk7z.net Mon May 2 15:45:46 2016 From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole) Date: Mon, 02 May 2016 12:45:46 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric In-Reply-To: <57279A2B.7040709@cis-broadband.com> References: <1007018462.4896165.1462210924506.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <57279A2B.7040709@cis-broadband.com> Message-ID: <1462218346.13468.31.camel@nk7z.net> I have to agree with AB7E here, I enjoy some of the off topic things, and for those that I don't, I delete... -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net For MixW support see: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info For SSTV help see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info On Mon, 2016-05-02 at 11:19 -0700, David Gilbert wrote: > Thankfully you don't get to make that call, and Eric has already > laid? > out the guidelines describing to what extent he considers pro/con? > comments on other rigs to be appropriate for this list.??For me, I > find? > it very valuable to understand how my K3 stacks up to other rigs as > long? > as such posts don't dominate the list.??I prefer not to live in a > silo. > > Dave???AB7E > > > On 5/2/2016 10:42 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: > > > > I also have been thinking this lately > > If it's not an Elecraft product then please use the appropriate > > forum. > > > > > > > > > > ???????From: Ken G Kopp > > ? To: Gary at ka1j.com; elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > ? Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 12:39 PM > > ? Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric > > ???? > > Well-said, Gary ... > > > > This was a topic at our local coffee gathering this AM. > > > > 73 > > > > Ken - K0PP > > > > 73 > > > > Ken, K0PP > > On May 2, 2016 10:30, "Gary Smith" wrote: > > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > Till now I've kept my thoughts to myself regarding some of the > > > lengthy threads here, discussing other radios/Competition for > > > Elecraft products. I personally find these threads irritating and > > > here is why: > > > > > > This is the only place on the internet where I can find answers > > > to my > > > questions about the K3 and K3s I own and I don't like seeing it > > > used > > > as a platform for discussing the pros & Cons of non Elecraft > > > radios. > > > > > > I can't imagine going to an Icom forum and discussing at length > > > my > > > and other's opinions about Elecraft or any other manufacturer. > > > The > > > only reason I would dream of going to any brand specific forum is > > > to > > > hear information on that manufacturer's radios. > > > > > > Before I joined this forum close to 10 years ago, I was on the > > > TenTec > > > reflector, reading daily as I wanted to buy one of the newer > > > radios > > > with better hearing than my Corsair II. At that time I was > > > considering the Orion line. I had been disappointed with how that > > > company at the time, was not handling some of the long term > > > complaints I was reading on their reflector about a lack of > > > updates > > > and issues with end of life parts being soon unobtanium. With > > > that > > > being a real concern to me, I looked to threads on the eHam > > > forums > > > and read about Elecraft in the discussions and found this > > > reflector. > > > > > > I used this Elecraft forum as a learning tool before buying my > > > first > > > K3 and appreciated the dedication of the members and then to my > > > pleasant surprise to find the owners of the company were > > > frequent, > > > often daily contributors to the threads. It took me awhile to > > > realize > > > I wasn't interested in a K1 or K2 but the K3 was going to fit my > > > needs and it was made in America and I wasn't going to buy from > > > overseas if what I want was made here. That an option to buy a > > > kit > > > was included made it a lock for me to buy the K3 kit with most > > > all of > > > the options available. > > > > > > But my point being what I said that above; I turned to this forum > > > to > > > hear about Elecraft products and issues, not to read lengthy > > > discussions about competitors products. I still consider that is > > > the > > > purpose of this forum and I am bemused why people tout other > > > equipment here, it's just bad form. I would consider myself being > > > rude and a jerk if I went to the Icom forum and started threads > > > about > > > how wonderful my Elecraft XYZ was. > > > > > > Just my 2 cents. > > > > > > 73 to all, > > > > > > Gary > > > KA1J > > > K3s #10622 > > > K3??#2382 > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > Elecraft mailing list > > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.ht > > > ml > > > Message delivered to kengkopp at gmail.com > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to hlyingst at yahoo.com > > > > > > ??? > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to xdavid at cis-broadband.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dave at nk7z.net From nq5t at tx.rr.com Mon May 2 16:01:53 2016 From: nq5t at tx.rr.com (GRANT YOUNGMAN) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 15:01:53 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Need Advice In-Reply-To: <3226EE97-8DF8-490E-A27D-BFB6C833FA39@yahoo.com> References: <3226EE97-8DF8-490E-A27D-BFB6C833FA39@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <38CECAEA-2148-48A8-B284-EB7D1E31A71F@tx.rr.com> You?ll have more than 90% of a K3S if you have kept up with the mods and offered upgrades over time. The main differences would be (1) an improved 4-layer RF board with a reduced noise profile, (2) improved (lower) IMD in the audio section of the new DSP board for speaker outputs (this was supposed to be made available for the K3, but nothing has been heard about it?s status), (3) ?hard? switching to bypass the new tuner module, and (4) a fancier escutcheon. Everyone?s mileage varies on this, of course. I have elected to keep my fully-loaded and fully-upgraded K3 and not go through the exercise of "unbundling? the installed options, selling the barebones K3, buying and rebuilding a K3S. and ending up in the hole financially. I think the differences would be completely unnoticeable by most, even if it makes them feel better about their place in the world :-) I?m saving the $$ involved and putting them in the whatever-the-next-major-Elecraft-radio-is piggy bank :-) Grant NQ5T K3 #2091, KX3 #8342 > On May 2, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Ed via Elecraft wrote: > > I have had my K3 for a few years and have always kept it up to date. It seems cheaper than taking a loss in selling it and springing for a K3S. I am about to send it in again for the new synth boards and DSP board swap, etc. > > In the end, I will have 90% of a K3S. Is this the way to go? > From k6sdw at hotmail.com Mon May 2 16:15:00 2016 From: k6sdw at hotmail.com (Eddy Avila) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 13:15:00 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] 4-ohm to 8-ohm question Message-ID: My K2 audio output is 4-ohms which I drive into an 8-ohm ICOM speaker with filters. Yes, it works OK, but I would like to match them better. In the "olden" days I would simply use a 4-ohm to 8-ohm audio transformer, but I can't find them anymore! Really, I've looked at all the suspect places, including eBay and Amazon. Any suggestions, I just want and easy, simple way to matching the two impedance's without losing power which would happen if I used a resister across the ICOM speaker. I know I can just drive a small audio amp between them, but that means more wires to power up the amp...... Thanks to all 73 ed From k9jri at mac.com Mon May 2 16:18:10 2016 From: k9jri at mac.com (Michael Blake) Date: Mon, 02 May 2016 16:18:10 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] TX Noise Gate on KX3 kills VOX delay setting In-Reply-To: <52A6280B-DB4A-4607-AD1D-C525A0FFD6BE@yahoo.co.uk> References: <62A9A166-D3E4-4C42-918C-10DF06F1377D@mac.com> <52A6280B-DB4A-4607-AD1D-C525A0FFD6BE@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <3656B588-07BB-4048-B50E-5633F37B094D@mac.com> I do not have a clue David as I only have the KX3. Elecraft support has acknowledged receiving the report so we will see what happens. Michael Blake - K9JRI > On May 2, 2016, at 3:45 PM, David Anderson wrote: > > Thanks Michael, let us know when you hear anything back from them. > > I wonder if the same thing happens with a K3? > > 73 from David GM4JJJ > >> On 2 May 2016, at 18:41, Michael Blake > wrote: >> >> I only received two customer responses and they both confirmed what I am seeing on my KX3. I have forwarded the issue as a ?bug? to Elecraft support. >> >> Michael Blake >> k9jri at mac.com > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Apr 30, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Michael Blake wrote: >>> >>> Has anyone else noticed this TX Noise Gate versus VOX Delay setting interaction? >>> >>> Michael Blake >>> k9jri at mac.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Apr 29, 2016, at 7:08 PM, Michael Blake wrote: >>>> >>>> When the TX Noise Gate is set to ?On? with any gate level more than ?00? the VOX delay setting is ignored and the VOX drops out immediately. Is this by design? >>>> >>>> I am using MCU version 2.34 and DSP version 1.33 >>>> >>>> Michael Blake >>>> k9jri at mac.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to k9jri at mac.com >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to k9jri at mac.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk From john at kk9a.com Mon May 2 16:41:58 2016 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 16:41:58 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] SteppIR antenna summary Message-ID: I have used the 4el SteppIR at AI6V's (SK) Aruba home a few times. Being a contester I had hardly ever operated on the WARC bands and I had an absolute blast using the SteppIR on 12m and 17m. Unfortunately the SteppIR quit working about a year ago and it has not been repaired. Two things not mentioned in your summary is the wait for the antenna to adjust when changing bands and that you cannot operate on two bands simultaneously. John KK9A aka P40A Bill Frantz frantz at pwpconsult.com Mon May 2 14:16:47 EDT 2016 The responses about SteppIR antennas have died down so here is, as promised, the summary. Five people reported no problems with a total of 39 years of experience. An additional responder had no problems, but did not give the length of his experience. One of these responders is near the ocean. Another responder lives in coastal New England where he experiences high winds, but reports no weather related damage. He has not had a major ice storm, but did have damage from a lightning strike. Three people report failures in the EHU (the device that moves the extensible antenna element), including one "out of the box", two due to lightning strikes, and one due to an hour of 120 MPH winds. Another reports having to lower the antenna 4 times since 2004 for unspecified repairs. Several people point out that SteppIR has made significant improvements over the last 15 years, fixing some of the problems that caused early failures. One said that he had fewer problems with his 13 year old SteppIR than he had had with a Butternut vertical. Many say they get performance similar to what they would get with a bunch of monoband Yagis. Some sing the praises of crank-up/tilt-over towers to make antenna access easy. My take on all this is that the SteppIR antennas are significant mechanical devices, much more complex than multi and monobanders. Since any antenna can fail, there should be a repair plan for antennas. Given the time I've spent repairing my wire antennas, SteppIRs don't seem to be particularly unreliable. 73 Bill AE6JV From donwilh at embarqmail.com Mon May 2 16:53:20 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 16:53:20 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] 4-ohm to 8-ohm question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8ab5bbd1-233a-37da-d495-a3f2bf5a8db0@embarqmail.com> Ed, There is no need to match speaker impedances. That may have been the case when audio output stages had output transformers, but it is no longer desired or needed. The audio output stage is a low impedance source - which means that the available output is determined by the load. You can get more power into a 4 ohm load than you can into an 8 ohm load. The power is determined by the load. A parallel example - consider the AC receptacle in your wall - it is a veery low impedance source. If you plug in a 40 watt light bulb, enough current will be drawn to light that lamp to its full brilliance - drawing about 40 watts of power. Now plug in a 25 watt bulb. It will draw less current, but will still light to its full briliance -drawing only 25 watts. The point here is that with a low impedance source, the output power is mainly determined by the impedance of the load, and no amount of Impedance matching is going to make a big difference. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/2/2016 4:15 PM, Eddy Avila wrote: > My K2 audio output is 4-ohms which I drive into an 8-ohm ICOM speaker with filters. Yes, it works OK, but I would like to match them better. > In the "olden" days I would simply use a 4-ohm to 8-ohm audio transformer, but I can't find them anymore! Really, I've looked at all the suspect places, including eBay and Amazon. > Any suggestions, I just want and easy, simple way to matching the two impedance's without losing power which would happen if I used a resister across the ICOM speaker. I know I can just drive a small audio amp between them, but that means more wires to power up the amp...... > Thanks to all > 73 > ed > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com > From w7ox at socal.rr.com Mon May 2 17:02:51 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 14:02:51 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric In-Reply-To: References: <1007018462.4896165.1462210924506.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <57279A2B.7040709@cis-broadband.com> Message-ID: <99a9a04f-fbfb-b4b0-884d-1736a4246674@socal.rr.com> Joe, Crucial difference is that the KX3 system is modular and the barefoot KX3 can be used very effectively battery operated for SOTA, camping and the like. I suspect the IC-7300 was not designed for power efficiency :-) So I see them as a very different class of rig. 73, Phil W7OX On 5/2/16 11:48 AM, Joe Moffatt wrote: > This is very true to me as well. One thing that I am seeing in several places online right now is that the 7300 Icom is a big competitor to the KX3. A lot of folks are saying that why spend the money for a KX3 when you can have a panadapter, 100 watts, etc built in for much less money than the KX3/PX3/KPA100 combination. > > This is relative to Elecraft and the KX3 in particular because this may turn out to be a major competitor to the KX3 series, or not, but it is certainly a relative discussion. > > Anyhow, I don't mean to hijack the list, but other products do affect Elecraft and their users. > > Joe > > > From w7ox at socal.rr.com Mon May 2 17:03:51 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 14:03:51 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Need Advice In-Reply-To: <3226EE97-8DF8-490E-A27D-BFB6C833FA39@yahoo.com> References: <3226EE97-8DF8-490E-A27D-BFB6C833FA39@yahoo.com> Message-ID: That's working well for me, Ed. 73, Phil W7OX On 5/2/16 11:49 AM, Ed via Elecraft wrote: > I have had my K3 for a few years and have always kept it up to date. It seems cheaper than taking a loss in selling it and springing for a K3S. I am about to send it in again for the new synth boards and DSP board swap, etc. > > In the end, I will have 90% of a K3S. Is this the way to go? > > Thanks, > Ed NI6S From qschultze at gmail.com Mon May 2 17:04:01 2016 From: qschultze at gmail.com (Quentin Schultze) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 17:04:01 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Sold K3, P3, KAT-500 station. Message-ID: Thanks all for your patience. What a wonderful group. Quin, K8QS From k2asp at kanafi.org Mon May 2 17:04:51 2016 From: k2asp at kanafi.org (Phil Kane) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 14:04:51 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] 4-ohm to 8-ohm question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6950870c-dec1-2748-3d6c-cc5acf7dc51e@kanafi.org> On 5/2/2016 1:15 PM, Eddy Avila wrote: > In the "olden" days I would simply use a 4-ohm to 8-ohm audio transformer, but I can't find them anymore! Not necessary because today's audio amplifier designs do not require matched impedances. You are "good to go" with no further matching. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 >From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon From lists at subich.com Mon May 2 17:10:41 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 17:10:41 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] 4-ohm to 8-ohm question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <464ca82b-cb8b-ee36-7c29-85838ffb987e@subich.com> > Yes, it works OK, but I would like to match them better. Don't bother. There is no benefit in doing so. Modern audio amplifiers are essentially zero impedance sources (current drivers). The K2's 4 Ohm specification is based on the audio power output for a given power supply voltage and distortion level. The LM-380 data sheet shows 2W at 12V with 3% distortion for a 4 Ohm load. Move to 8 Ohms and you will get about 1.2W at 12V with 3% distortion. If you want more power output into an 8 Ohms speaker, increase the voltage to the LM-380 to 20V (yes, it's rated all the way to 22V max). If you don't want to modify the radio to supply 20V to the audio amplifier (not a good idea ), you rally need to find a high efficiency 4 Ohm speaker or use an external amplifier to get more sound. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/2/2016 4:15 PM, Eddy Avila wrote: > My K2 audio output is 4-ohms which I drive into an 8-ohm ICOM speaker with filters. Yes, it works OK, but I would like to match them better. > In the "olden" days I would simply use a 4-ohm to 8-ohm audio transformer, but I can't find them anymore! Really, I've looked at all the suspect places, including eBay and Amazon. > Any suggestions, I just want and easy, simple way to matching the two impedance's without losing power which would happen if I used a resister across the ICOM speaker. I know I can just drive a small audio amp between them, but that means more wires to power up the amp...... > Thanks to all > 73 > ed From dj0qn at gmx.net Mon May 2 17:29:55 2016 From: dj0qn at gmx.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Mitch_Wolfson=2c_DJ=c3=98QN_/_K7DX?=) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 17:29:55 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Looking for 13 KHz Filter In-Reply-To: <5700811A.6050508@gmx.net> References: <56EC4164.2070403@gmx.net> <5700811A.6050508@gmx.net> Message-ID: <5727C6D3.8010302@gmx.net> If anyone has a spare 13 KHz filter available, please mail me direct. Thanks & 73, Mitch K7DX / DJ0QN Mitch Wolfson DJ?QN / K7DX 10285 Boca Cir, Naples, FL 34109 Skype: mitchwo USA: Home:+1-239-221-9600 - Mobile:+1-424-288-9171 Germany: Home:+49 89 32152700 - Mobile:+49 172 8374436 From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Mon May 2 17:31:03 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 14:31:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric In-Reply-To: <1462218346.13468.31.camel@nk7z.net> References: <1007018462.4896165.1462210924506.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <57279A2B.7040709@cis-broadband.com> <1462218346.13468.31.camel@nk7z.net> Message-ID: <5727C717.9050604@triconet.org> Same here. On 5/2/2016 12:45 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > I have to agree with AB7E here, I enjoy some of the off topic things, > and for those that I don't, I delete... From wrcooke at yahoo.com Mon May 2 17:41:48 2016 From: wrcooke at yahoo.com (WILLIS COOKE) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 21:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] 4-ohm to 8-ohm question In-Reply-To: <6950870c-dec1-2748-3d6c-cc5acf7dc51e@kanafi.org> References: <6950870c-dec1-2748-3d6c-cc5acf7dc51e@kanafi.org> Message-ID: <613293781.5068665.1462225308519.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Eddy, the transformers were made tor tube type amplifiers where the output was several thousand ohms and transforming was needed. ?Some audiophiles still use tube amplifiers for mellow sounds from music, but the transistor output stages match either 4 or 8 ohm speakers directly and are fine for communications audio or ordinary tone deaf ?listeners for music.?Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, From: Phil Kane To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4-ohm to 8-ohm question On 5/2/2016 1:15 PM, Eddy Avila wrote: > In the "olden" days I would simply use a 4-ohm to 8-ohm audio transformer, but I can't find them anymore! Not necessary because today's audio amplifier designs do not require matched impedances.? You are "good to go" with no further matching. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100? s/n 5402 >From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wrcooke at yahoo.com From lstavenhagen at hotmail.com Mon May 2 17:44:37 2016 From: lstavenhagen at hotmail.com (lstavenhagen) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 14:44:37 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric In-Reply-To: <99a9a04f-fbfb-b4b0-884d-1736a4246674@socal.rr.com> References: <57278081.25444.40C1D1@Gary.ka1j.com> <1007018462.4896165.1462210924506.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <57279A2B.7040709@cis-broadband.com> <99a9a04f-fbfb-b4b0-884d-1736a4246674@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <1462225477610-7617078.post@n2.nabble.com> I think the 7300 could intrude against the KX3 in the "base station replacement" market, though. It's obviously an important enough market, in fact, that Elecraft developed the KXPA100 with built-in tuner to augment the KX3's attractiveness in that particular scenario. So I think the 7300 could pose a significant threat if you happen to like the built-in panadapter and touch screen etc. An equivalent (using the term loosely of course) KX3 setup - rig + options, KXPA100 amp + tuner, PX3 panadapter - is $3200 and climbing. So at half that or possibly less, the 7300 could potentially become a problem for Elecraft in that particular space. Now, would I go with a 7300 instead, no, of course not, because I'm aware of the superiority of Elecraft's rigs. But for those who aren't, this is probably a market reality that I'm sure has Eric and Wayne's attention on some level. 73, LS W5QD Phil Wheeler-2 wrote > Joe, > > Crucial difference is that the KX3 system is > modular and the barefoot KX3 can be used very > effectively battery operated for SOTA, camping and > the like. I suspect the IC-7300 was not designed > for power efficiency :-) > > So I see them as a very different class of rig. > > 73, Phil W7OX -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Elecraft-Centric-tp7617039p7617078.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From frantz at pwpconsult.com Mon May 2 17:48:17 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 14:48:17 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Pre-purchase questions In-Reply-To: <1D5EDBF7-956D-40F9-9AF3-595D7AC96BBD@carolinaheli.com> Message-ID: There are some options available for the P3 including a power/SWR meter and an external monitor output (called the SVGA option). These can be retrofitted to all P3s. In general, Elecraft leans over backwards to make upgrade kits available for older models. See their web site to check if there are any kits available for the P3. BTW - I love my P3 and wouldn't be without it. 73 Bill AE6JV On 5/2/16 at 12:16 PM, jermo at carolinaheli.com (Jerry) wrote: >I'm looking to buy a P3 to go with my K3s. >Are the older P3's the same as the new ones or are there >different hardware versions? I'm noticing some used P3's being >offered recently for almost the same as new direct from Elecraft. >Thanks in advance. >Jer/AE4PB ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Truth and love must prevail | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | over lies and hate. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | - Vaclav Havel | Los Gatos, CA 95032 From k5hm.ron at gmail.com Mon May 2 18:00:15 2016 From: k5hm.ron at gmail.com (Ron Litt) Date: Mon, 02 May 2016 22:00:15 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Need Advice In-Reply-To: References: <3226EE97-8DF8-490E-A27D-BFB6C833FA39@yahoo.com> Message-ID: had my k3 about three years now. I have always kept up with upgrades. hardware and sw. seems like the best way to protect my investment and keep it current. I do the hardware upgrades myself. saves shipping cost and time. it is not hard to do ur self. ron On Mon, May 2, 2016, 16:06 Phil Wheeler wrote: > That's working well for me, Ed. > > 73, Phil W7OX > > > On 5/2/16 11:49 AM, Ed via Elecraft wrote: > > I have had my K3 for a few years and have always kept it up to date. It > seems cheaper than taking a loss in selling it and springing for a K3S. I > am about to send it in again for the new synth boards and DSP board swap, > etc. > > > > In the end, I will have 90% of a K3S. Is this the way to go? > > > > Thanks, > > Ed NI6S > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k5hm.ron at gmail.com > From k6dgw at foothill.net Mon May 2 18:30:36 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 15:30:36 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Pre-purchase questions In-Reply-To: <1D5EDBF7-956D-40F9-9AF3-595D7AC96BBD@carolinaheli.com> References: <1D5EDBF7-956D-40F9-9AF3-595D7AC96BBD@carolinaheli.com> Message-ID: <37f777b4-7c62-a252-0b6a-4bc4dd60cbb2@foothill.net> There is an option for all P3's to feed the video to a large monitor. It's called SVGA and may provide a keyboard connection as well. Recently, a TX power monitor option was announced. I don't have either. I bought my P3 primarily as a "toy," I thought it would be cool to be able to see where the activity was every now and then. It's about as far from a toy as you can get now ... it's what I look at all the time. Spotting the where the guy is that the DX just called is easy, as is discerning which direction the DX is tuning. Sadly, it does not work when I'm operating W7RN remotely since stringing 60 or km of RG-58 from the IF output at the station to my P3 is sort of a non-starter. :-)) 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org On 5/2/2016 12:16 PM, Jerry wrote: > I'm looking to buy a P3 to go with my K3s. > Are the older P3's the same as the new ones or are there different hardware versions? I'm noticing some used P3's being offered recently for almost the same as new direct from Elecraft. > Thanks in advance. > Jer/AE4PB From k6dgw at foothill.net Mon May 2 18:33:53 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 15:33:53 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Need Advice In-Reply-To: <3226EE97-8DF8-490E-A27D-BFB6C833FA39@yahoo.com> References: <3226EE97-8DF8-490E-A27D-BFB6C833FA39@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <66b6eabf-1c63-2834-859d-2d81dc1c784e@foothill.net> U think you'll have more than 90%. I installed the new synth myself. Second hardest part was disconnecting all the wires behind my "wireless," and the hardest part was reconnecting them. You have to do that if you send it in as well. The actual install was very straightforward and easy. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org On 5/2/2016 11:49 AM, Ed via Elecraft wrote: > I have had my K3 for a few years and have always kept it up to date. > It seems cheaper than taking a loss in selling it and springing for a > K3S. I am about to send it in again for the new synth boards and DSP > board swap, etc. > > In the end, I will have 90% of a K3S. Is this the way to go? > > Thanks, Ed NI6S From hdplunkett at comcast.net Mon May 2 18:36:32 2016 From: hdplunkett at comcast.net (H Doug Plunkett) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 17:36:32 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Solar backpacking power advice In-Reply-To: References: <1DB75EB5-6740-49A1-B691-381B372506C9@wunderwood.org> Message-ID: <9608F636-D2B8-4063-A79D-EF3F159E11FD@comcast.net> Lynn, I haven't tried it with my KX3 but I'm an avid Appalachian Trail hiker and have run into several hikers with solar panels on top of their backpacks charging iPhones and weather radios as they hike. Not sure if the output is sufficient for us hams but it's probably getting there. Sent from my iPhone > On May 2, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: > > It's been a while since I've been backpacking, but this got me to thinking.... > > If you're actively hiking, you can't really hang a panel on your pack and plan on it being pointed at the sun. That means either staying put to charge batteries, or bigger panels for faster charging, or bigger batteries for the days you can't effectively charge, or something like that. > > Is solar charging in this case even practical? The bigger the panel, the heavier the load. > > A quick and dirty, conservative calculation suggests that the lithiums would be good for a couple of days of "a few hours" at 5 watts. Probably twice that at "an hour or so." > > 73 -- Lynn > >> On 5/2/2016 9:02 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: >> If you don?t mind non-rechargeable batteries, AA lithium primary cells are the lightest option. They are about 0.5 ounce each, so a 3000 mAh set weighs 4 ounces. Carrying a spare set of those will be lighter than a solar panel. They are also 1.5 V, so you get 36 Wh from a set instead of 25 Wh from a set of 2500 mAh NiMh cell. >> >> On May 2, 2016, at 7:53 AM, Joe Moffatt wrote: >> >> Anyhow, I am trying to figure out what to use for portable solar rechargeable power while backpacking in the mountains. My typical trip will be 2-3 days, a few hours a day operating primarily CW. 5 watts is fine for CW.... >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to hdplunkett at comcast.net From cljonkers at bellsouth.net Mon May 2 18:42:19 2016 From: cljonkers at bellsouth.net (C L Jonkers) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 22:42:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] K3 1 milliwatt calibration failed References: <1330698803.6867382.1462228939363.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1330698803.6867382.1462228939363.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks to Olli - DH8BQA for the good advice to manually run the calibration. It worked. 73,? Neil NJ6L From N7QS at aol.com Mon May 2 19:07:01 2016 From: N7QS at aol.com (N7QS at aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 19:07:01 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Icom, etc. Message-ID: <6075b3.61677f9.44593795@aol.com> Do we really need to review off-brand rigs on the Elecraft web site? It seems like half of the posts in the past week refer to the Icom 7300. I read this mailing list to get information on ELECRAFT rigs, not Icom or any of the other brands. If you're so interested in Icom rigs, please post your thoughts on the Icom reflector. Thanks and 73, Doug N7QS From nf4l at comcast.net Mon May 2 19:11:48 2016 From: nf4l at comcast.net (Mike Reublin NF4L) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 19:11:48 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Icom, etc. In-Reply-To: <6075b3.61677f9.44593795@aol.com> References: <6075b3.61677f9.44593795@aol.com> Message-ID: Did you see Eric's take on this? 73, Mike NF4L > On May 2, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Doug via Elecraft wrote: > > Do we really need to review off-brand rigs on the Elecraft web site? It > seems like half of the posts in the past week refer to the Icom 7300. I read > this mailing list to get information on ELECRAFT rigs, not Icom or any of > the other brands. If you're so interested in Icom rigs, please post your > thoughts on the Icom reflector. > > Thanks and 73, > > Doug N7QS > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nf4l at comcast.net From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Mon May 2 19:19:50 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 16:19:50 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] 4-ohm to 8-ohm question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5727E096.3090502@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Mon,5/2/2016 1:15 PM, Eddy Avila wrote: > My K2 audio output is 4-ohms which I drive into an 8-ohm ICOM speaker with filters. Yes, it works OK, but I would like to match them better. There is no need to do that. Audio output stages are constant voltage sources -- that means they have a VERY low output impedance, typically a fraction of an Ohm. The impedance rating of a loudspeaker output stage is the MINIMUM impedance that the stage can drive safely. Any higher Z will work fine. A transformer would do three things 1) increase the headroom (max loudness) by about 2.5 dB (there's loss in the xfmr); 2) increase distortion at low audio frequencies (because most audio xfmrs aren't very good; and 3) deplete your bank account. 73, Jim K9YC From farrerfolks at yahoo.com Mon May 2 19:25:34 2016 From: farrerfolks at yahoo.com (Mel Farrer) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 23:25:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] Need Advice In-Reply-To: <66b6eabf-1c63-2834-859d-2d81dc1c784e@foothill.net> References: <66b6eabf-1c63-2834-859d-2d81dc1c784e@foothill.net> Message-ID: <671001586.5153987.1462231534720.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> There is an alternative approach.? I have an early K3 and found a version of the SW that does everything I like and I stopped updating.? My feelings go this way.? At some time I will send it in for some reason and have them bring it up to current.? Until then I am a very happy camper.? It is not broke so I won't attempt fixing it....... NUF said. Mel, K6KBE From: Fred Jensen To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Need Advice U think you'll have more than 90%.? I installed the new synth myself. Second hardest part was disconnecting all the wires behind my "wireless," and the hardest part was reconnecting them.? You have to do that if you send it in as well.? The actual install was very straightforward and easy. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org On 5/2/2016 11:49 AM, Ed via Elecraft wrote: > I have had my K3 for a few years and have always kept it up to date. > It seems cheaper than taking a loss in selling it and springing for a > K3S. I am about to send it in again for the new synth boards and DSP > board swap, etc. > > In the end, I will have 90% of a K3S. Is this the way to go? > > Thanks, Ed NI6S ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to farrerfolks at yahoo.com From drichnews at gmail.com Mon May 2 19:28:09 2016 From: drichnews at gmail.com (dwayne rich) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 19:28:09 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Message-ID: <18746091-2404-454A-883E-434BAB4028FA@gmail.com> I am curious as to everyone's opinion on the PX3? Is it worth the money or is it better to hook the kx3 to a computer? Dwayne Rich NC4EM Dwayne From edauer at law.du.edu Mon May 2 19:35:18 2016 From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 23:35:18 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K3+ v. K3S In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ed ? That?s what I did ? kept the K3 and am adding upgrades (hence a K3+). Unless you?re interested in the experimental low frequency band, as I understand it changing the synths alone gets you nearly there. And changing the synths is a snap to do yourself ? no need to send it to Elecraft. I know. I did it; and by way of things electronic, I am an unsalvageable klutz. Ted, KN1CBR > > On 5/2/16 11:49 AM, Ed via Elecraft wrote: > > I have had my K3 for a few years and have always kept it up to date. >It > seems cheaper than taking a loss in selling it and springing for a K3S. I > am about to send it in again for the new synth boards and DSP board swap, > etc. > > > > In the end, I will have 90% of a K3S. Is this the way to go? > > > > Thanks, > > Ed NI6S > From bob at hogbytes.com Mon May 2 19:42:38 2016 From: bob at hogbytes.com (Bob N3MNT) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 16:42:38 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 In-Reply-To: <18746091-2404-454A-883E-434BAB4028FA@gmail.com> References: <18746091-2404-454A-883E-434BAB4028FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1462232558434-7617092.post@n2.nabble.com> Prior to the release of the PX3 I used a computer. Since I got the PX3 I no longer use the computer for anything but logging. It's integration with the KX3 allows it to do many more things than the computer could. After the upgrade to add keyboard functionality, it is even better. You can do PSK31, PSK63, and RTTY from the keyboard. It also added 40+ more cw and digital mode memories. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-tp7617090p7617092.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Mon May 2 19:50:46 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 18:50:46 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment In-Reply-To: References: <57268A37.7080605@arrl.net> <14bcf3b6-3658-18fb-8615-07ff0694d44a@embarqmail.com> <57269D28.4050500@mediacombb.net> <5726A64B.8020006@socal.rr.com> <5726AF45.20300@audiosystemsgroup.com> <0953151E-8E08-440A-963D-8CCE05634E1A@mac.com> Message-ID: <5727E7D6.2000500@mediacombb.net> The standards go thusly. TIA/EIA 568-A (T568A) Pin 1 - white / green stripe Pin 2 - green Pin 3 - white / orange stripe Pin 4 - blue Pin 5 - white / blue stripe pin 6 - orange pin 7 - white / brown stripe pin 8 - brown TIA/EIA 568-B (T568B) Pin 1 - white / orange stripe Pin 2 - orange Pin 3 - white / green stripe Pin 4 - blue Pin 5 - white / blue stripe Pin 6 - green Pin 7 - white / brown stripe Pin 8 - brown 568B is predominant in the US. If you're making patch cables use the same standard on both ends. If you're making a cross over cable use the "A" on one end and the "B" on the other. It really doesn't matter if you use a standard or not as long as both ends are identical...that is until someone else works on your network. I spent a week rebuilding 50 CAT6 runs that someone decided to use their own standard on. I've got 'em memorized. I can also subnet IPv4 in my head. I need a hobby.;-) On 5/1/2016 9:53 PM, Byron Servies wrote: > There are 2 wiring standards for cat5/5e/6 cable into RJ45 style modular > plugs: EIA/TIA-568A and EIA/TIA-568B (aka T568A and T568B). They are > slightly different, and both work to gigabit speeds. You can mix them, but > in a data center, for example, they will try to stick with 1 or the other. > > > 73, Byron N6NUL > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From w7ox at socal.rr.com Mon May 2 19:53:17 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 16:53:17 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 In-Reply-To: <18746091-2404-454A-883E-434BAB4028FA@gmail.com> References: <18746091-2404-454A-883E-434BAB4028FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4b080c45-1b8b-303e-0517-20427b4c4d84@socal.rr.com> Well worth the money, IMO, Dwayne. It's a class product and very well integrates with the KX3. Only downside: Using the KX3 sans PX3, say for portable ops, now feels cumbersome :-) 73, Phil W7OX On 5/2/16 4:28 PM, dwayne rich wrote: > I am curious as to everyone's opinion on the PX3? Is it worth the money or is it better to hook the kx3 to a computer? > > Dwayne Rich > NC4EM > > > Dwayne From kg6mti at sbcglobal.net Mon May 2 20:16:10 2016 From: kg6mti at sbcglobal.net (David Davis) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 18:16:10 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 In-Reply-To: <18746091-2404-454A-883E-434BAB4028FA@gmail.com> References: <18746091-2404-454A-883E-434BAB4028FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <44DF409E-CF06-4DCF-9D20-4E21E6A45B8A@sbcglobal.net> Absolutely one of the best radio purchase I have made. As others have noted the PX3 integrated really well with the KX3. Makes operation really smooth and eliminates the need for a PC. You will not regret it. Enjoy David KG6MTI Sent from my iPhone > On May 2, 2016, at 17:28, dwayne rich wrote: > > I am curious as to everyone's opinion on the PX3? Is it worth the money or is it better to hook the kx3 to a computer? > > Dwayne Rich > NC4EM > > > Dwayne > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kg6mti at sbcglobal.net From va3mw at portcredit.net Mon May 2 20:26:50 2016 From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 20:26:50 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Icom, etc. In-Reply-To: References: <6075b3.61677f9.44593795@aol.com> Message-ID: There are often discussions on this reflector not about Elecraft's products. Why pick on Icom? mike va3mw On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote: > Did you see Eric's take on this? > 73, Mike NF4L > > > > On May 2, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Doug via Elecraft > wrote: > > > > Do we really need to review off-brand rigs on the Elecraft web site? It > > seems like half of the posts in the past week refer to the Icom 7300. > I read > > this mailing list to get information on ELECRAFT rigs, not Icom or any of > > the other brands. If you're so interested in Icom rigs, please post > your > > thoughts on the Icom reflector. > > > > Thanks and 73, > > > > Doug N7QS > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to nf4l at comcast.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to va3mw at portcredit.net > From vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk Mon May 2 21:04:25 2016 From: vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk (Johnny Siu) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 01:04:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] Need Advice - K3+ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1510904784.4359421.1462237465064.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hello Ed, I have the feeling that K3S is transition model before any evolution product from Elecraft. ?Or it is a way to extend the current K3 product life cycle - a classic business school case. Hence, I tend to not heavily invest for a new K3S. ?I did the KSYN3A upgrade which is crucial to the enhancement of performance. ?The installation is easy. 73 Johnny VR2XMC ???? Phil Wheeler ???? elecraft at mailman.qth.net ????? 2016?05?3? (??) 5:03 AM ??? Re: [Elecraft] Need Advice That's working well for me, Ed. 73, Phil W7OX On 5/2/16 11:49 AM, Ed via Elecraft wrote: > I have had my K3 for a few years and have always kept it up to date.? It seems cheaper than taking a loss in selling it and springing for a K3S. I am about to send it in again for the new synth boards and DSP board swap, etc. > > In the end, I will have 90% of a K3S. Is this the way to go? > > Thanks, > Ed NI6S ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk From kp4y at yahoo.com Mon May 2 21:21:21 2016 From: kp4y at yahoo.com (Robert Vargas-KP4Y) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 21:21:21 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric In-Reply-To: <1462218346.13468.31.camel@nk7z.net> References: <1007018462.4896165.1462210924506.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <57279A2B.7040709@cis-broadband.com> <1462218346.13468.31.camel@nk7z.net> Message-ID: Guys, Most of us all loyal Elecraft customers that love the company and their products. This type of post provides valuable feedback to Elecraft that will enable them to understand the type of feature that we would like to see in future products. Many of these features are only possible (at least economically feasible) using a direct-sampling SDR architecture. It would be very sad to see Elecraft fall behind the competition just because we gave them the false impression that we are too happy with our K3s and KX3s, combined with Elecraft's excellent customer support, to want to see technological innovation in their next generation of product. A good example of this would be Ten-Tec. I guess their clients didn't ask for more as long as they got the "legendary QSK". Of course, Wayne and Eric will not let that happen! 73, Robert-KP4Y/W4 Sent from my iPhone > On May 2, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > > I have to agree with AB7E here, I enjoy some of the off topic things, > and for those that I don't, I delete... > -- > 73's, and thanks, > Dave (NK7Z) > > For software/hardware reviews see: > http://www.nk7z.net > > For MixW support see: > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info > > For SSTV help see: > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info > > >> On Mon, 2016-05-02 at 11:19 -0700, David Gilbert wrote: >> Thankfully you don't get to make that call, and Eric has already >> laid >> out the guidelines describing to what extent he considers pro/con >> comments on other rigs to be appropriate for this list. For me, I >> find >> it very valuable to understand how my K3 stacks up to other rigs as >> long >> as such posts don't dominate the list. I prefer not to live in a >> silo. >> >> Dave AB7E >> >> >>> On 5/2/2016 10:42 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: >>> >>> I also have been thinking this lately >>> If it's not an Elecraft product then please use the appropriate >>> forum. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Ken G Kopp >>> To: Gary at ka1j.com; elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 12:39 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric >>> >>> Well-said, Gary ... >>> >>> This was a topic at our local coffee gathering this AM. >>> >>> 73 >>> >>> Ken - K0PP >>> >>> 73 >>> >>> Ken, K0PP >>>> On May 2, 2016 10:30, "Gary Smith" wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Folks, >>>> >>>> Till now I've kept my thoughts to myself regarding some of the >>>> lengthy threads here, discussing other radios/Competition for >>>> Elecraft products. I personally find these threads irritating and >>>> here is why: >>>> >>>> This is the only place on the internet where I can find answers >>>> to my >>>> questions about the K3 and K3s I own and I don't like seeing it >>>> used >>>> as a platform for discussing the pros & Cons of non Elecraft >>>> radios. >>>> >>>> I can't imagine going to an Icom forum and discussing at length >>>> my >>>> and other's opinions about Elecraft or any other manufacturer. >>>> The >>>> only reason I would dream of going to any brand specific forum is >>>> to >>>> hear information on that manufacturer's radios. >>>> >>>> Before I joined this forum close to 10 years ago, I was on the >>>> TenTec >>>> reflector, reading daily as I wanted to buy one of the newer >>>> radios >>>> with better hearing than my Corsair II. At that time I was >>>> considering the Orion line. I had been disappointed with how that >>>> company at the time, was not handling some of the long term >>>> complaints I was reading on their reflector about a lack of >>>> updates >>>> and issues with end of life parts being soon unobtanium. With >>>> that >>>> being a real concern to me, I looked to threads on the eHam >>>> forums >>>> and read about Elecraft in the discussions and found this >>>> reflector. >>>> >>>> I used this Elecraft forum as a learning tool before buying my >>>> first >>>> K3 and appreciated the dedication of the members and then to my >>>> pleasant surprise to find the owners of the company were >>>> frequent, >>>> often daily contributors to the threads. It took me awhile to >>>> realize >>>> I wasn't interested in a K1 or K2 but the K3 was going to fit my >>>> needs and it was made in America and I wasn't going to buy from >>>> overseas if what I want was made here. That an option to buy a >>>> kit >>>> was included made it a lock for me to buy the K3 kit with most >>>> all of >>>> the options available. >>>> >>>> But my point being what I said that above; I turned to this forum >>>> to >>>> hear about Elecraft products and issues, not to read lengthy >>>> discussions about competitors products. I still consider that is >>>> the >>>> purpose of this forum and I am bemused why people tout other >>>> equipment here, it's just bad form. I would consider myself being >>>> rude and a jerk if I went to the Icom forum and started threads >>>> about >>>> how wonderful my Elecraft XYZ was. >>>> >>>> Just my 2 cents. >>>> >>>> 73 to all, >>>> >>>> Gary >>>> KA1J >>>> K3s #10622 >>>> K3 #2382 >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.ht >>>> ml >>>> Message delivered to kengkopp at gmail.com >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to hlyingst at yahoo.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to xdavid at cis-broadband.com >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to dave at nk7z.net > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kp4y at yahoo.com From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Mon May 2 21:35:53 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (wickedbeernut) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 18:35:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 In-Reply-To: <18746091-2404-454A-883E-434BAB4028FA@gmail.com> References: <18746091-2404-454A-883E-434BAB4028FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1462239353723-7617099.post@n2.nabble.com> I'm not sure it's a question of PX3+KX3 OR computer+KX3. A computer can still be connected to the KX3 (via the PX3) for use with logging / control programs. Elecraft needs to update the PX3 datasheet. The PX3 is now much more than just a panadapter. In addition to the spectrum and waterfall display, the PX3 supports up to 335 text characters ... 201 characters of received (decoded) text and 134 characters of transmitted text / text to be transmitted. The PX3 can receive text and buffer text to be transmitted at the same time. The PX3 can store up to 50 text messages and 50 macros (PX3 and/or KX3 remote-control commands), each up to 95 characters. Each messsage / macro can be assigned to a keyboard key or key combination (with Shift, Alt or Ctrl). The current PX3 beta firmware (MCU 1.42, 3-22-2016) introduced a "scratchpad" feature. This is yuge! The scratchpad feature allows you to enter the other station's callsign once and substitute the scratchpad into stored text messages using "\s". This is analogous to the HRD / DM-780 tag. Yuge! I'll take this opportunity to share my (ever-growing) PX3 Wish List. Mouse support is trivial given the existing keyboard support. Logging support will likely require a new (internal) "option board": ? Alternative to Insert Key and Ctrl-Insert Key Combination with Scratchpad (e.g., Alt-i and Ctrl-i) - Some keyboards don?t have an Insert key ? Marker and Center Frequency Display with 1 Hz Resolution ? Mouse Support (e.g., Mouse-n-Click QSY) - using a single 2.4 GHz wireless dongle which supports both the keyboard and mouse ? Logging - assumes a new memory or microSD (preferred) "option board" connected via the existing PX3 SPI or I2C expansion interface ? Message Tags - recognize an optional tag at the beginning of each message (e.g., ": Plano, Texas") - expand (non-recursively) in other messages ? Automatic Callsign Recognition - regular expression: ^([BFGIKMNTW]|[A-Z0-9]{2})[0-9][A-Z0-9]{0,3}[A-Z]$ ? Remote Control Commands - #UP/#UPB marker move up - #DN/#DNB marker move down - #MAC macro read/set - #MSG message read/set Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-tp7617090p7617099.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From billincolo73 at gmail.com Mon May 2 22:10:02 2016 From: billincolo73 at gmail.com (Bill Leonard N0CU) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 19:10:02 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] High Tx IMD with new K3s/10 Message-ID: <1462241402507-7617100.post@n2.nabble.com> I recently got a new K3s/10 built up and running. This week I ran some tests to get familiar with it and one test that surprised me was the high Tx IMD levels. I first noticed that the two tone waveform on a Tek o'scope showed flat topping starting at about 4.5 W. As the power level was increased the flat topping got worse. I checked the spectrum with my HP spectrum analyzer (on 14 MHz) and measured the following 3rd order IMD levels feeding a 1.1 SWR: 1 W: -36 dBc 4 W: -31 dBc 4.5 W: -33 dBc 6 W: -34 dBc 8 W: -25 dBc 10 W: -21 dBc It was interesting that as the power was increased from 4.5 to 6 watts, the increased distortion didn't show up in the 3 rd order IMD, but rather the 5 th and higher order products. Since I am new to Elecraft radios, I don't know if this behavior is expected or if there is something in my transmitter that needs to be checked out. I have built up a number of amps over the years and I am used to seeing flat topping start at, or a little below the maximum CW output power. My K3s puts out about 12 W max, so I was expecting the flat topping to start at about 11 W. Bill N0CU -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/High-Tx-IMD-with-new-K3s-10-tp7617100.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From n6kr at elecraft.com Mon May 2 22:30:33 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 19:30:33 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] High Tx IMD with new K3s/10 In-Reply-To: <1462241402507-7617100.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1462241402507-7617100.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Bill, This is not representative of K3S/10 performance. Either the LPA module is misadjusted or the spectrum analyzer is being overdriven. If you send the unit in we'll check it in our lab and make any adjustments required. 73, Wayne N6KR On May 2, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Bill Leonard N0CU wrote: > I recently got a new K3s/10 built up and running. This week I ran some tests > to get familiar with it... From pincon at erols.com Mon May 2 22:58:50 2016 From: pincon at erols.com (Charlie T, K3ICH) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 22:58:50 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric In-Reply-To: <57278081.25444.40C1D1@Gary.ka1j.com> References: <57278081.25444.40C1D1@Gary.ka1j.com> Message-ID: <001201d1a4e7$bd18e120$374aa360$@erols.com> Well, the guys on the IC-7300 forum are fussing about all the Elecraft talk over there....... Chas -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary Smith Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 12:30 PM To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric Folks, Till now I've kept my thoughts to myself regarding some of the lengthy threads here, discussing other radios/Competition for Elecraft products. I personally find these threads irritating and here is why: This is the only place on the internet where I can find answers to my questions about the K3 and K3s I own and I don't like seeing it used as a platform for discussing the pros & Cons of non Elecraft radios. I can't imagine going to an Icom forum and discussing at length my and other's opinions about Elecraft or any other manufacturer. The only reason I would dream of going to any brand specific forum is to hear information on that manufacturer's radios. Before I joined this forum close to 10 years ago, I was on the TenTec reflector, reading daily as I wanted to buy one of the newer radios with better hearing than my Corsair II. At that time I was considering the Orion line. I had been disappointed with how that company at the time, was not handling some of the long term complaints I was reading on their reflector about a lack of updates and issues with end of life parts being soon unobtanium. With that being a real concern to me, I looked to threads on the eHam forums and read about Elecraft in the discussions and found this reflector. I used this Elecraft forum as a learning tool before buying my first K3 and appreciated the dedication of the members and then to my pleasant surprise to find the owners of the company were frequent, often daily contributors to the threads. It took me awhile to realize I wasn't interested in a K1 or K2 but the K3 was going to fit my needs and it was made in America and I wasn't going to buy from overseas if what I want was made here. That an option to buy a kit was included made it a lock for me to buy the K3 kit with most all of the options available. But my point being what I said that above; I turned to this forum to hear about Elecraft products and issues, not to read lengthy discussions about competitors products. I still consider that is the purpose of this forum and I am bemused why people tout other equipment here, it's just bad form. I would consider myself being rude and a jerk if I went to the Icom forum and started threads about how wonderful my Elecraft XYZ was. Just my 2 cents. 73 to all, Gary KA1J From w6jhb at me.com Mon May 2 23:22:42 2016 From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett) Date: Mon, 02 May 2016 20:22:42 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 In-Reply-To: <18746091-2404-454A-883E-434BAB4028FA@gmail.com> References: <18746091-2404-454A-883E-434BAB4028FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dwayne, Prior to the PX3 coming on the market, I used my KX3 with a software application called NaP3. Was nice having a huge display available (I use a 27" iMac) and the ability to mouse click on a signal at the opposite end of the band and instantly QSY there. But..... After having the PX3 I never went back to NaP3. The PX3 is small enough that when I want to use my KX3 out on the patio, in the family room, or wherever, the PX3 is small enough to bring along and still enjoy being able to use my "fish finder"! Jim Bennett / W6JHB Folsom, CA > On May 2, 2016, at 4:28 PM, dwayne rich wrote: > > I am curious as to everyone's opinion on the PX3? Is it worth the money or is it better to hook the kx3 to a computer? > > Dwayne Rich > NC4EM > > > Dwayne > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w6jhb at me.com From donwilh at embarqmail.com Mon May 2 23:39:19 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 23:39:19 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric In-Reply-To: <001201d1a4e7$bd18e120$374aa360$@erols.com> References: <57278081.25444.40C1D1@Gary.ka1j.com> <001201d1a4e7$bd18e120$374aa360$@erols.com> Message-ID: <27a2ee06-ed3d-4634-613d-cb8552a0f9d1@embarqmail.com> I am really "Elecraft Centric", but I believe with good reason - Elecraft gear is the "best in the business" by Sherwood ratings and the experience showing the standings in international extreme contesting as well as being the choice of DXpedition and contest operators. Those facts say a lot to me. I exempt the over $10K transceivers from consideration because those are not within the realm of affordability by most hams that I am familiar with. Similar performance can be had from Elecraft at half that price category. I do like some limited discussion here about new transceivers just so we have information about what new things the competition is doing. It is also interesting to note that the lesser priced transceivers do not have all the features of the K3S or the KX3 by a rather large margin and the Sherwood ratings continue to keep the K3S and KX3 at the very top of the list when $$$ are taken into consideration. So yes, I believe it is appropriate for some discussion of the features (or lack thereof) on the competition's announcements to take place - but it should not be carried away with long extended threads. If the competitive offering peaks your interest, then take extended discussion of the pros and cons of that offering to the manufacturer's forums. Unless something different comes along, the K3S and KX3 are still 'top of the line' IMHO, even considering the new "pizzazz" features being added by the competition. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/2/2016 10:58 PM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote: > Well, the guys on the IC-7300 forum are fussing about all the Elecraft talk > over there....... > From wunder at wunderwood.org Mon May 2 23:47:54 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 20:47:54 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric In-Reply-To: <27a2ee06-ed3d-4634-613d-cb8552a0f9d1@embarqmail.com> References: <57278081.25444.40C1D1@Gary.ka1j.com> <001201d1a4e7$bd18e120$374aa360$@erols.com> <27a2ee06-ed3d-4634-613d-cb8552a0f9d1@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <9347D344-F33B-4477-83FA-3C9C40B26443@wunderwood.org> I consider this group to be a great collection of well-seasoned hams (smoked hams?). I assume that a lot of us are Elmers. Elecraft equipment is the right choice for most of us, but I appreciate the comments on other gear, so that I?m ready to give a new ham a solid list of choices. In backpacking, we say ?hike your own hike?. Take the advice from your Elmer(s), but you are the one turning the knobs. Or touching the screen. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On May 2, 2016, at 8:39 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > > I am really "Elecraft Centric", but I believe with good reason - Elecraft gear is the "best in the business" by Sherwood ratings and the experience showing the standings in international extreme contesting as well as being the choice of DXpedition and contest operators. Those facts say a lot to me. > > I exempt the over $10K transceivers from consideration because those are not within the realm of affordability by most hams that I am familiar with. Similar performance can be had from Elecraft at half that price category. > > I do like some limited discussion here about new transceivers just so we have information about what new things the competition is doing. It is also interesting to note that the lesser priced transceivers do not have all the features of the K3S or the KX3 by a rather large margin and the Sherwood ratings continue to keep the K3S and KX3 at the very top of the list when $$$ are taken into consideration. > > So yes, I believe it is appropriate for some discussion of the features (or lack thereof) on the competition's announcements to take place - but it should not be carried away with long extended threads. If the competitive offering peaks your interest, then take extended discussion of the pros and cons of that offering to the manufacturer's forums. > > Unless something different comes along, the K3S and KX3 are still 'top of the line' IMHO, even considering the new "pizzazz" features being added by the competition. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 5/2/2016 10:58 PM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote: >> Well, the guys on the IC-7300 forum are fussing about all the Elecraft talk >> over there....... >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Tue May 3 00:22:39 2016 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 07:22:39 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] High Tx IMD with new K3s/10 In-Reply-To: <1462241402507-7617100.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1462241402507-7617100.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <02B40724-06BE-4854-9F5A-BD5E0E92A2E2@gmail.com> Not normal. Make sure the power supply voltage is stable and do the testing at 13.8v. Vic 4X6GP > On 3 May 2016, at 5:10 AM, Bill Leonard N0CU wrote: > > I recently got a new K3s/10 built up and running. This week I ran some tests > to get familiar with it and one test that surprised me was the high Tx IMD > levels. I first noticed that the two tone waveform on a Tek o'scope showed > flat topping starting at about 4.5 W. As the power level was increased the > flat topping got worse. I checked the spectrum with my HP spectrum analyzer > (on 14 MHz) and measured the following 3rd order IMD levels feeding a 1.1 > SWR: > > 1 W: -36 dBc > 4 W: -31 dBc > 4.5 W: -33 dBc > 6 W: -34 dBc > 8 W: -25 dBc > 10 W: -21 dBc > > It was interesting that as the power was increased from 4.5 to 6 watts, the > increased distortion didn't show up in the 3 rd order IMD, but rather the 5 > th and higher order products. > Since I am new to Elecraft radios, I don't know if this behavior is expected > or if there is something in my transmitter that needs to be checked out. > I have built up a number of amps over the years and I am used to seeing flat > topping start at, or a little below the maximum CW output power. My K3s puts > out about 12 W max, so I was expecting the flat topping to start at about 11 > W. > > Bill N0CU > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/High-Tx-IMD-with-new-K3s-10-tp7617100.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2vco.vic at gmail.com From joe at selectconnect.net Tue May 3 00:38:48 2016 From: joe at selectconnect.net (Joe Moffatt) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 04:38:48 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric In-Reply-To: <99a9a04f-fbfb-b4b0-884d-1736a4246674@socal.rr.com> References: <1007018462.4896165.1462210924506.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <57279A2B.7040709@cis-broadband.com> , <99a9a04f-fbfb-b4b0-884d-1736a4246674@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: I do too.... just saying what I've been reading a lot. Joe Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note? 4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Phil Wheeler Date: 05/02/2016 4:03 PM (GMT-06:00) To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric Joe, Crucial difference is that the KX3 system is modular and the barefoot KX3 can be used very effectively battery operated for SOTA, camping and the like. I suspect the IC-7300 was not designed for power efficiency :-) So I see them as a very different class of rig. 73, Phil W7OX On 5/2/16 11:48 AM, Joe Moffatt wrote: > This is very true to me as well. One thing that I am seeing in several places online right now is that the 7300 Icom is a big competitor to the KX3. A lot of folks are saying that why spend the money for a KX3 when you can have a panadapter, 100 watts, etc built in for much less money than the KX3/PX3/KPA100 combination. > > This is relative to Elecraft and the KX3 in particular because this may turn out to be a major competitor to the KX3 series, or not, but it is certainly a relative discussion. > > Anyhow, I don't mean to hijack the list, but other products do affect Elecraft and their users. > > Joe > > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to joe at selectconnect.net ________________________________ Total Control Panel Login To: joe at selectconnect.net From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net Message Score: 1 High (60): Pass My Spam Blocking Level: Medium Medium (75): Pass Low (90): Pass Block this sender / Block this sender enterprise-wide Block mailman.qth.net / Block mailman.qth.net enterprise-wide This message was delivered because the content filter score did not exceed your filter level. From jkramer at iafrica.com Tue May 3 02:47:29 2016 From: jkramer at iafrica.com (John) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 07:47:29 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric In-Reply-To: References: <1007018462.4896165.1462210924506.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <57279A2B.7040709@cis-broadband.com> <99a9a04f-fbfb-b4b0-884d-1736a4246674@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <4E61006B-92A5-42C6-8951-59030E2A472D@iafrica.com> Phil - yes, in much the same way as the K3S is not a SOTA rig :-) I have a KX3 and also an IC-7300, and I don?t see either as competition for one another - I will keep both. Interestingly, the current draw on RX on the IC-7300 is amazingly low taking into consideration the multi-functional large color display. It draws only 900 ma, which is about half the current draw of the miniature IC-7000. Of course the KX3 is the champion when current draw is the main criteria. So yes, I see myself using my KX3 for SOTA and other ultra light portable operations, but I will take my IC-7300 to operate from park benches, camping and holiday style Dxpeditions. 73 John Joe, Crucial difference is that the KX3 system is modular and the barefoot KX3 can be used very effectively battery operated for SOTA, camping and the like. I suspect the IC-7300 was not designed for power efficiency :-) So I see them as a very different class of rig. 73, Phil W7OX On 5/2/16 11:48 AM, Joe Moffatt wrote: > This is very true to me as well. One thing that I am seeing in several places online right now is that the 7300 Icom is a big competitor to the KX3. A lot of folks are saying that why spend the money for a KX3 when you can have a panadapter, 100 watts, etc built in for much less money than the KX3/PX3/KPA100 combination. > > This is relative to Elecraft and the KX3 in particular because this may turn out to be a major competitor to the KX3 series, or not, but it is certainly a relative discussion. > > Anyhow, I don't mean to hijack the list, but other products do affect Elecraft and their users. > > Joe > > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to joe at selectconnect.net ________________________________ Total Control Panel Login To: joe at selectconnect.net From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net Message Score: 1 High (60): Pass My Spam Blocking Level: Medium Medium (75): Pass Low (90): Pass Block this sender / Block this sender enterprise-wide Block mailman.qth.net / Block mailman.qth.net enterprise-wide This message was delivered because the content filter score did not exceed your filter level. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jkramer at iafrica.com From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue May 3 04:06:00 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 01:06:00 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 In-Reply-To: <18746091-2404-454A-883E-434BAB4028FA@gmail.com> References: <18746091-2404-454A-883E-434BAB4028FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <57285BE8.40705@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Mon,5/2/2016 4:28 PM, dwayne rich wrote: > I am curious as to everyone's opinion on the PX3? Is it worth the money or is it better to hook the kx3 to a computer? I bought a PX3. Much smaller and lighter, integrates nicely. 73, Jim K9YC From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue May 3 04:10:56 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 01:10:56 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] High Tx IMD with new K3s/10 In-Reply-To: <1462241402507-7617100.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1462241402507-7617100.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <57285D10.9040202@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Mon,5/2/2016 7:10 PM, Bill Leonard N0CU wrote: > one test that surprised me was the high Tx IMD levels. Some things to check. What power supply voltage? Was it a matched load? Distortion increases with most power amplifiers (including the output stage of a rig) with low power supply voltage and with a mis-matched output. And, as was suggested, was the test gear overdriven? 73, Jim K9YC From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Tue May 3 04:51:32 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Tue, 03 May 2016 00:51:32 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] SteppIR antenna summary Message-ID: <201605030851.u438pXRv012652@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> After posting my query on how Steppir handles cold/icy wx, I received a reply from Michael, k5wmg, suggesting I might look at the Tennadyne T8 log-periodic. I had looked at the log-periodic in years past for VHF and passed at they were quite big for minimal gain. But the typical 3-element HF yagi has 6-dB gain in free space so the 5.8 dB gain of the 8-element T8 on 18-foot boom would be comparable with the plus that a tuner would not likely be needed (besides I have a manual tuner should it be needed). What is a deciding factor for me is $788 vs over $2K for the basic 3-element Steppir (not including optional accessories). I briefly looked at the T11 ($910) which covers 13.5-54 MHz but the extra cost and added elements on 24-foot boom would not make sense since I already have a 6-element 6m yagi and a fixed pointed 3-element 6m yagi. Probably will not do anything until the elderly TH3mk4 looses an element or a trap goes bad. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue May 3 04:59:01 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 01:59:01 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric In-Reply-To: <001201d1a498$ba8a11d0$2f9e3570$@windstream.net> References: <001201d1a498$ba8a11d0$2f9e3570$@windstream.net> Message-ID: <57286855.10201@audiosystemsgroup.com> Yes. In any group where you're paying attention, you tend to figure out who the heavy hitters are, who provide the needed BS filters. W3FPR, N7WS, K2AV, W4TV, AB7E, W4NZ, W9AC, GM3SEK, W0YK, NY9H, N6XI are a few members of this group who come to mind. Jim K9YC On Mon,5/2/2016 10:33 AM, Dick Dickinson wrote: > I have seen this reflector as much of being a 'club' rather than a forum > with a strictly focused on Elecraft. That factor may be useful for many, > particularly newer operators who might have questions along the lines of > antennas, operating circumstances and conventions, as well as accessories > (Elecraft or other). From k2av.guy at gmail.com Tue May 3 07:30:54 2016 From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 07:30:54 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] A helpful review... In-Reply-To: <572785C1.6040104@newlyntech.com> References: <572785C1.6040104@newlyntech.com> Message-ID: On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 12:52 PM, Peter Scovell wrote: > > I have found the odd comments by some other readers of this mailing list > somewhat parochial in outlook in that they seem to want to see and hear > only items relating to Elecraft gear and not be informed of other new and > exciting developments occurring in our hobby. There are a pair of untrue assumptions in there. 1) Assumes that someone here, who doesn't want to transact discussions about Flex products on the Elecraft reflector, cannot possibly hear about Flex anywhere else. That if Flex information is not brought up on the Elecraft reflector, the "good news" on Flex products will never be heard. Personally, I've been on the Flex reflector since the very beginnings of that product line. I can tell you an awful lot about where Flex is, what the problems and improvements are. I have been on the cusp of a Flex purchase for years. I just have a list that I'm waiting for them to invent their way out of. A couple of those items need faster technology at lower cost, which will get here, sometime. I just won't discuss it here on the Elecraft Reflector. It is also abundantly clear that I know more about Flex products than trolls that have come on here hyping Flex just to see if they can get under someone's skin. But I will not discuss issues about Flex products on the Elecraft reflector. From where I sit, overall Elecraft reflector commentary on Flex is fair-to-poor, sometimes outright inaccurate, but so what. It's the *Elecraft* reflector. I expect accuracy on Flex products on the *Flex* reflector. Besides the Flex reflector, I get my Flex information from actual Flex owners, and from the incessant joyful no-holds-barred all-rigs-comparison commentary among PVRC club members, who have actually owned or do still own the rigs under discussion. This, along with the opportunity to actually operate other brands, beats out any other source of information hands down. This reflector (Elecraft) ranks way up there in comparison to other brand-centric reflectors. But it's up there because people on the Elecraft reflector get outstanding help on Elecraft products, some from individuals like W3FPR, who are off-scale high helpful on the did-you-get-quick-and-accurate-information-that-helped-you-out scale. Commentary on the world at large is not what drives up the Elecraft reflector numbers. 2) It's not at all that I don't want to hear about "other new and exciting developments". I'd just rather keep it to Elecraft here. I have really good sources of everything else *elsewhere*. And I really do not trust any information from folks that are just trying to stir up controversy to get some yuks. You know who you are. If I want to argue about rigs, I'll go join the long-running all-smiles friendly rig-comparison food fight with some of my great lifetime friends at PVRC. 73, Guy K2AV From vk5cp at arrl.net Tue May 3 08:12:43 2016 From: vk5cp at arrl.net (VK5CP) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 05:12:43 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] How to get K3/0 data into a logging program Message-ID: <1462277563768-7617113.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, I have a K3/0 and K3 remote station setup using the most recent hardware/firmware version of Remoterig RRC-1258MkII connected via the mobile phone network. At the K3/0 end I use a IMac computer with MacloggerDX - I would like to connect the K3/0 via USB to the Imac to automatically feed in the freq/mode data? I have tried but it does not seem to work. Has anyone worked this out at their station? Regards Chris VK5CP -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/How-to-get-K3-0-data-into-a-logging-program-tp7617113.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From wa7ndd at digis.net Tue May 3 09:14:51 2016 From: wa7ndd at digis.net (James Griffith) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 07:14:51 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Message-ID: <5728A44B.5010208@digis.net> I sold my FT 817 to add the PX3 to my KX3. I had never used a spectrum display before. But I never turn on the KX3 without the PX3 now. It is useful to see CW signals both sides of the dial, and which is the strongest, and the weakest. Same for SSB. Just turn the dial and move the station to the center marker and listen. I might say I like my FT817, had it for years, but I just could not take the small screen in varying light challenges, and my eyes getting older. So I did not have any pangs when I sold it. And, after having the PX3, I never looked back. From frantz at pwpconsult.com Tue May 3 10:06:16 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 07:06:16 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3+ v. K3S In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The general coverage receive module KBPF3A will give your K3 access to LF receive. Older ones require a mod, but new ones from Elecraft come with the mod installed. 73 Bill AE6JV On 5/2/16 at 4:35 PM, edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward) wrote: >Unless you?re interested in the experimental low frequency band, as I >understand it changing the synths alone gets you nearly there. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | The first thing you need when | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | using a perimeter defense is a | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | perimeter. | Los Gatos, CA 95032 From lstavenhagen at hotmail.com Tue May 3 10:20:39 2016 From: lstavenhagen at hotmail.com (lstavenhagen) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 07:20:39 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric In-Reply-To: <4E61006B-92A5-42C6-8951-59030E2A472D@iafrica.com> References: <57278081.25444.40C1D1@Gary.ka1j.com> <1007018462.4896165.1462210924506.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <57279A2B.7040709@cis-broadband.com> <99a9a04f-fbfb-b4b0-884d-1736a4246674@socal.rr.com> <4E61006B-92A5-42C6-8951-59030E2A472D@iafrica.com> Message-ID: <1462285239621-7617116.post@n2.nabble.com> Well I do have to say, though, that my "K3 plus" and K3s both are very respectable /p rigs, though. Both are the 10 watt versions and will actually run for a couple hours pretty well on even a 9AH AGM battery. Yeah, a solar panel or a larger batt would be required for longer than that or a lot of QSO's at 10-12 watts, but to me it's pretty cool that I can operate the highest performing rig on the market (or close to it) off the tailgate of my pickup in the mountains or hills around where I live. I'd have to go to the bank (with a gun) to fund buying their nearest competitor and I don't think I'd dare try to haul it out to the mountains, even in my nice Pelican case. Anyway, to make this more on the topic of competitor analysis - it'll be interesting to see what Elecraft comes up with if they decide there's a need to respond to the 7300. I posted elsewhere about that, where I think it may scratch an itch out there where the KX3 doesn't scratch it quite as well. But to me, even a K3(s) is a worthy competitor in /p, though it's kind of a sledge hammer for portable ops with far far more RX performance that you'd typically need..... 73, LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Elecraft-Centric-tp7617039p7617116.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From n6kr at elecraft.com Tue May 3 10:43:55 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 07:43:55 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 In-Reply-To: <5728A44B.5010208@digis.net> References: <5728A44B.5010208@digis.net> Message-ID: <6AA5C16C-9DCA-472F-9889-63828F54952B@elecraft.com> The PX3 also provides a generous amount of display height for its spectral and waterfall displays (roughly 2x the height of the IC-7300 in its max setting, to use the vernacular :) Wayne On May 3, 2016, at 6:14 AM, James Griffith wrote: > I sold my FT 817 to add the PX3 to my KX3. I had never used a spectrum display before. > But I never turn on the KX3 without the PX3 now. It is useful to see CW signals both > sides of the dial, and which is the strongest, and the weakest. Same for SSB. Just turn > the dial and move the station to the center marker and listen. I might say I like my > FT817, had it for years, but I just could not take the small screen in varying light > challenges, and my eyes getting older. So I did not have any pangs when I sold it. And, > after having the PX3, I never looked back. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From arsn4dd at charter.net Tue May 3 10:45:49 2016 From: arsn4dd at charter.net (Dennis Brickey) Date: Tue, 03 May 2016 10:45:49 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Clifton Labs Preamp Needed Here Also Message-ID: <5odgryperonldnu4jr8cmsad.1462284863009@email.android.com> Good Morning, I am in in need of one of the Clifton Labs Z1000B preamps for a K2 mod. If anyone has one excess to their needs, please contact me offline. Thanks for your help. Dennis N4DD Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID From w4sc at windstream.net Tue May 3 13:21:55 2016 From: w4sc at windstream.net (w4sc) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 13:21:55 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Excess K3 K3S KRX3 Options Message-ID: <42351278838A4D31827B45AA68DA1442@z22z28> Excess to my needs. For Sale K3/K3S/KRX3 Options: 1) KSYN3A (K3SYNAUPG) Upgrade Kit for K3, KRX3 New $185.00 2) KBPF3 Band Pass Filter for SWL ? Prof updated to ?A? for LF Rx K3/K3S/KRX3 Mint $145.00 3) KTCXO3-1 TCXO 1 PPM (0.5 typical) High Stability Ref. Osc. for the K3S and K3 New $110.00 4) KFL3A-2.8K 2.8 kHz, 8-pole filter Mint $120.00 Includes tracking, insured, Priority Shipping. Other shipping methods extra. Please reply OFF list. 73 de Ben W4SC From cowchip at ca.rr.com Tue May 3 13:37:43 2016 From: cowchip at ca.rr.com (NK6A-Don Minkoff) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 10:37:43 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S new in box for sale Message-ID: <5728E1E7.5000406@ca.rr.com> Elecraft K3s/100-F Ser. No 10733 KFL3A-2.7 New in box. Recently won and selling for a friend. Located in West Los Angeles $2750 shipped Fed Ex Gnd insured. Cash or USPS money order. PayPal plus 3 % nk6a at arrl.net -- Don Minkoff NK6A From n1nk at cox.net Tue May 3 14:03:23 2016 From: n1nk at cox.net (Jim Spears) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 14:03:23 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3: internal 2m transverter offset problem Message-ID: <000501d1a566$1580b9e0$40822da0$@net> I have K3 s/n 6866 with internal 2m transverter. I have not paid much attention to the transverter for a while but I noticed something odd a couple days ago and have not been able to do anything about it. If I set the Elecraft XG3 to 144.100 and feed its output into the transverter input connector, the signal shows up at 144.095, 5 KHz low. If I tell this K3 to output 2m rf on 144.100, I hear the signal at 144.015 on K3 s/n 6425 which has an external 2m transverter. I first noticed this when monitoring a local 2m FM repeater and could not copy its output until I tuned 5 KHz low. The K3 does have an external 10 MHz clock and CONFIG REF CAL has the blinking asterisk. FWIW, the value shown is 49.379.962. CONFIG XV OFS is 144 -0.08 and cannot be changed, when I go to adjust it REFLOCK appears. What's up Doc? Jim/N1NK From w4sc at windstream.net Tue May 3 14:13:25 2016 From: w4sc at windstream.net (w4sc) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 14:13:25 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 POD Message-ID: Is this another path available to update K3/K3S f/w? It will be nice if it is. Not clear in the spec sheet. USB Port and 3 General-Purpose Outputs A USB port is provided on the K-Pod for firmware updates................... Ben W4SC From w4sc at windstream.net Tue May 3 14:25:19 2016 From: w4sc at windstream.net (w4sc) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 14:25:19 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Excess K3 K3S KRX3 Options In-Reply-To: <42351278838A4D31827B45AA68DA1442@z22z28> References: <42351278838A4D31827B45AA68DA1442@z22z28> Message-ID: Excess to my needs. For Sale K3/K3S/KRX3 Options: 1) SOLD KSYN3A (K3SYNAUPG) Upgrade Kit for K3, KRX3 SOLD SOLD 2) KBPF3 Band Pass Filter for SWL ? Prof updated to ?A? for LF Rx K3/K3S/KRX3 Mint $145.00 3) KTCXO3-1 TCXO 1 PPM (0.5 typical) High Stability Ref. Osc. for the K3S and K3 New $110.00 4) KFL3A-2.8K 2.8 kHz, 8-pole filter Mint $120.00 Includes tracking, insured, Priority Shipping. Other shipping methods extra. Please reply OFF list. 73 de Ben W4SC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w4sc at windstream.net From n5ge at n5ge.com Tue May 3 14:24:30 2016 From: n5ge at n5ge.com (Amateur Radio Operator N5GE) Date: Tue, 03 May 2016 13:24:30 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] 4-ohm to 8-ohm question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Y'All, Please put the name of the device you need help with or wish to discuss. That helps those of us who don't have the device and therefore can't be of help to you. Thanks On Mon, 2 May 2016 13:15:00 -0700, you wrote: >My K2 audio output is 4-ohms which I drive into an 8-ohm ICOM speaker with filters. Yes, it works OK, but I would like to match them better. >In the "olden" days I would simply use a 4-ohm to 8-ohm audio transformer, but I can't find them anymore! Really, I've looked at all the suspect places, including eBay and Amazon. >Any suggestions, I just want and easy, simple way to matching the two impedance's without losing power which would happen if I used a resister across the ICOM speaker. I know I can just drive a small audio amp between them, but that means more wires to power up the amp...... >Thanks to all >73 >ed >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to n5ge at n5ge.com ARS N5GE From nq5t at tx.rr.com Tue May 3 14:29:17 2016 From: nq5t at tx.rr.com (GRANT YOUNGMAN) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 13:29:17 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3: internal 2m transverter offset problem In-Reply-To: <000501d1a566$1580b9e0$40822da0$@net> References: <000501d1a566$1580b9e0$40822da0$@net> Message-ID: Are you on the latest firmware rev level in the 2M module? I thought I was and missed an update somewhere along the way. I recently pulled my 2M module and sent it to Elecraft because one of the two crystals was marginal, and it was dead from 146-148 MHz. I got back their evaluation and, along with the crystal replacement, I was (very sheepishly, I might add) informed that I did not have the latest firmware which is needed to enable REFLOCK in the 2M module ? This sounds (sadly) familiar and might be the issue ? Grant NQ5T K3 #2091, KX3 #8342 > > If I set the Elecraft XG3 to 144.100 and feed its output into the > transverter input connector, the signal shows up at 144.095, 5 KHz low. > > > > I > CONFIG XV OFS is 144 -0.08 and cannot be changed, when I go to adjust it > REFLOCK appears. > > > From k6dgw at foothill.net Tue May 3 14:41:28 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 11:41:28 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] How to get K3/0 data into a logging program In-Reply-To: <1462277563768-7617113.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1462277563768-7617113.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <025a24fe-f82d-187b-e4b7-206321725abc@foothill.net> Don't know about an iMac, I have studiously avoided anything whose name begins with a lower case "i", but ... I run W7RN remotely with my K3 and the RRC 1258Mk2 and use N1MM in contests on a PC. Here's my recipe: 1. Serial cable from control K3 to back of RRC box. This establishes remote control. 2. USB from RRC front panel connector to PC. When connected, the RRC box creates 4 virtual COM ports -- COM0, COM1, COM2, and COMExtra. In device mgr, they will have a "real" COM port assigned in parentheses. 3. Locate the virtual port COM1, and note the "real" port in parens. That's the port # that goes into N1MM. The frequency data comes from the remote K3, not my local control K3. So, if you can translate that into Apple-ese, it should work for you. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org On 5/3/2016 5:12 AM, VK5CP wrote: > Hi, > > I have a K3/0 and K3 remote station setup using the most recent > hardware/firmware version of Remoterig RRC-1258MkII connected via the mobile > phone network. > > At the K3/0 end I use a IMac computer with MacloggerDX - I would like to > connect the K3/0 via USB to the Imac to automatically feed in the freq/mode > data? I have tried but it does not seem to work. > > Has anyone worked this out at their station? > > Regards > > Chris VK5CP From k0dxv at aol.com Tue May 3 14:43:03 2016 From: k0dxv at aol.com (Doug Person) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 11:43:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 In-Reply-To: <6AA5C16C-9DCA-472F-9889-63828F54952B@elecraft.com> References: <5728A44B.5010208@digis.net> <6AA5C16C-9DCA-472F-9889-63828F54952B@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <3fd43951-ed20-d0fe-8893-0bfdb2fc6ef6@aol.com> Honestly, the size of the spectral display isn't as important as the fact that it is extremely effective. It works. It's all in one small box. The K3/K3s - P3 and KX3/PX3 are wonderful bits of technology. But their U/I's remain a fine examples of the best of 20th century design. Large, full color, capacitive-touch, fully reconfigurable displays are becoming more pervasive every day. Refrigerators have them. Top of the line test equipment, remote controls on the coffee table, car dash boards with two or more displays, it goes on and on. The IC-7300 is Icom's first shot at full-color touch technology. They pioneered the full color display and were very successful at it. It's pretty clear that the Big Three have recognized the paradigm shift. In a few short years everything else will look dated - because it will be. Doug -- K0DXV On 5/3/2016 7:43 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > The PX3 also provides a generous amount of display height for its spectral and waterfall displays (roughly 2x the height of the IC-7300 in its max setting, to use the vernacular :) > > Wayne > > > On May 3, 2016, at 6:14 AM, James Griffith wrote: > >> I sold my FT 817 to add the PX3 to my KX3. I had never used a spectrum display before. >> But I never turn on the KX3 without the PX3 now. It is useful to see CW signals both >> sides of the dial, and which is the strongest, and the weakest. Same for SSB. Just turn >> the dial and move the station to the center marker and listen. I might say I like my >> FT817, had it for years, but I just could not take the small screen in varying light >> challenges, and my eyes getting older. So I did not have any pangs when I sold it. And, >> after having the PX3, I never looked back. >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k0dxv at aol.com > From jermo at carolinaheli.com Tue May 3 15:01:15 2016 From: jermo at carolinaheli.com (Jerry Moore) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 15:01:15 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 In-Reply-To: <3fd43951-ed20-d0fe-8893-0bfdb2fc6ef6@aol.com> References: <5728A44B.5010208@digis.net> <6AA5C16C-9DCA-472F-9889-63828F54952B@elecraft.com> <3fd43951-ed20-d0fe-8893-0bfdb2fc6ef6@aol.com> Message-ID: <0cb301d1a56e$33664120$9a32c360$@carolinaheli.com> I'm a technologist by career. I love the whistles, bells, and eye candy available. When I make my purchases my decisions are based more towards total cost of ownerships, product usability lifespan, durability..etc.. This typically means my dollars don't normally go to the newest flashy toy but does go to what I perceive to be the best bang for the buck. In the case of my Ham Radio Equipment I push to more easily supportable/upgradable/maintainable gear. Different systems illustrate weaknesses differently due to design intent and planned use. This means that EVERY SYSTEM is a compromise when used outside of it's designed use. A great illustration of this is commercial communications gear vs military avionics gear. The intended use is different which drastically changes the design. I didn't purchase my Elecraft K3S because it was the latest and greatest technology. I purchased it because it met and greatly exceeded my intended use based on its' design. Upgradable Open box type construction for repairs/troubleshooting. Modular Fanatic support - both community and company, in a language I natively understand Capabilities and features that require a skilled operator to fully understand, leverage, and get the most from, WHILE, still being usable by a novice (the DSP in my K3S is phenomenal, 4 different settings can be mixed to pull signals or hide interference or ..etc..).. For the premium paid I've not found another radio even close to my K3s. I CAN find radios with the same or even better , however, I've not found a package as capable.. Jer -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Person via Elecraft Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 2:43 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PX3 Honestly, the size of the spectral display isn't as important as the fact that it is extremely effective. It works. It's all in one small box. The K3/K3s - P3 and KX3/PX3 are wonderful bits of technology. But their U/I's remain a fine examples of the best of 20th century design. Large, full color, capacitive-touch, fully reconfigurable displays are becoming more pervasive every day. Refrigerators have them. Top of the line test equipment, remote controls on the coffee table, car dash boards with two or more displays, it goes on and on. The IC-7300 is Icom's first shot at full-color touch technology. They pioneered the full color display and were very successful at it. It's pretty clear that the Big Three have recognized the paradigm shift. In a few short years everything else will look dated - because it will be. Doug -- K0DXV On 5/3/2016 7:43 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > The PX3 also provides a generous amount of display height for its > spectral and waterfall displays (roughly 2x the height of the IC-7300 > in its max setting, to use the vernacular :) > > Wayne > > > On May 3, 2016, at 6:14 AM, James Griffith wrote: > >> I sold my FT 817 to add the PX3 to my KX3. I had never used a spectrum display before. >> But I never turn on the KX3 without the PX3 now. It is useful to see >> CW signals both sides of the dial, and which is the strongest, and >> the weakest. Same for SSB. Just turn the dial and move the station to >> the center marker and listen. I might say I like my FT817, had it for >> years, but I just could not take the small screen in varying light >> challenges, and my eyes getting older. So I did not have any pangs when I sold it. And, after having the PX3, I never looked back. >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >> email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >> n6kr at elecraft.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > k0dxv at aol.com > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jermo at carolinaheli.com From eric at elecraft.com Tue May 3 15:22:39 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 12:22:39 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric In-Reply-To: References: <57278081.25444.40C1D1@Gary.ka1j.com> Message-ID: Folks, Lets end this thread now, as it is exceeding our SNR posting limit. As per my prior post (see my prior email below), its OK to post OT and competitive topics if the number of postings in the thread is limited to less than 5-10. (Preferably closer to 5 or less). Also, please do not rely on me to moderate (and end) all threads. I'm frequently away from the computer running our daily business and can not reply until much later, frequently after a thread has gotten out of control. I ask that everyone self moderate, and when they feel they have to keep talking, take the OT thread off-list. Lastly, it is absolutely outside of list guidelines to post what you feel is not allowable or preferred for postings here. As noted in our list guidelines, please send concerns of this type to the list moderator (me). I have a very thick skin ;-) 73, Eric Moderator, chief bottle washer and COO /elecraft.com/ === On 5/2/2016 10:23 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: > Folks - Its within list guidelines for -short- discussions on topics only > peripherally related to Elecraft topics, but extended discussions pro/con etc > on competition etc should be limited here to a few posts and then taken to > direct personal email. Its certainly pertinent info on other products to be > posted,m but we do not want that to dominate list traffic. > > Our goal is to first and foremost provide a forum for discussions of Elecraft > products, third party products for Elecraft rigs and discussion of related > technologies. We purposely do not 100% limit postings to Elecraft products > since both we and many readers benefit from these outside topics, including > competitive analysis. But when these OT threads get past 5-10 postings, please > limit them and take the conversation off list in the interest of keeping the > volume of list postings under control. > > 73, > > Eric > List moderator and cheerleader > /elecraft.com/ > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com > From frantz at pwpconsult.com Tue May 3 15:28:54 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 12:28:54 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric In-Reply-To: <1462285239621-7617116.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: The West Valley Amateur Radio Association (using the K6EI call) has been running K2s and K3s at field day for at least 5 or 6 years. We run QRP battery for the entire "contest". We use a collection of lead acid batteries in the 100 AH category with solar panels as a power supply. It's really nice using a world-class radio and they help us achieve good scores. 73 Bill AE6JV On 5/3/16 at 7:20 AM, lstavenhagen at hotmail.com (lstavenhagen) wrote: >Yeah, a solar panel or a larger batt would be required for longer than that >or a lot of QSO's at 10-12 watts, but to me it's pretty cool that I can >operate the highest performing rig on the market (or close to it) off the >tailgate of my pickup in the mountains or hills around where I live. >... >But to me, even a K3(s) is a worthy competitor in /p, though it's kind of a >sledge hammer for portable ops with far far more RX performance that you'd >typically need..... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Privacy is dead, get over | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | it. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | - Scott McNealy | Los Gatos, CA 95032 From nq5t at tx.rr.com Tue May 3 15:39:03 2016 From: nq5t at tx.rr.com (GRANT YOUNGMAN) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 14:39:03 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 In-Reply-To: <3fd43951-ed20-d0fe-8893-0bfdb2fc6ef6@aol.com> References: <5728A44B.5010208@digis.net> <6AA5C16C-9DCA-472F-9889-63828F54952B@elecraft.com> <3fd43951-ed20-d0fe-8893-0bfdb2fc6ef6@aol.com> Message-ID: <08F326CE-20D6-4E90-991B-E06245C0E34E@tx.rr.com> Come on guys. Can we stop the ?mine is bigger than yours? because my-display-is-better because I-have-a-finger wars here? Really??? You want to deal with Icom? Buy one. I?ve owned several of them over the last 20 years. They?re just peachy, although some are less/more peachy than others. Go!! .. be happy. Yes, my delete key works, too. But I?m getting tired of using it on this topic, and I suspect I?m not alone. Grant NQ5T K3 #2091, KX3 #8342 > On May 3, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Doug Person via Elecraft wrote: > > Honestly, the size of the spectral display isn't as important as the fact that it is extremely effective. It works. It's all in one small box. The K3/K3s - P3 and KX3/PX3 are wonderful bits of technology. But their U/I's remain a fine examples of the best of 20th century design. Large, full color, capacitive-touch, fully reconfigurable displays are becoming more pervasive every day. Refrigerators have them. Top of the line test equipment, remote controls on the coffee table, car dash boards with two or more displays, it goes on and on. > > The IC-7300 is Icom's first shot at full-color touch technology. They pioneered the full color display and were very successful at it. It's pretty clear that the Big Three have recognized the paradigm shift. In a few short years everything else will look dated - because it will be. > > > Doug -- K0DXV > > From eric at elecraft.com Tue May 3 15:44:29 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 12:44:29 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 In-Reply-To: <08F326CE-20D6-4E90-991B-E06245C0E34E@tx.rr.com> References: <5728A44B.5010208@digis.net> <6AA5C16C-9DCA-472F-9889-63828F54952B@elecraft.com> <3fd43951-ed20-d0fe-8893-0bfdb2fc6ef6@aol.com> <08F326CE-20D6-4E90-991B-E06245C0E34E@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: Please read my last posting. Its -strongly- outside of list guidelines to make postings of the type below telling people what they should, or should not, be posting. Eric Moderator, really! /elecraft.com/ On 5/3/2016 12:39 PM, GRANT YOUNGMAN wrote: > Come on guys. Can we stop the ?mine is bigger than yours? because my-display-is-better because I-have-a-finger wars here? Really??? You want to deal with Icom? Buy one. I?ve owned several of them over the last 20 years. They?re just peachy, although some are less/more peachy than others. Go!! .. be happy. > > Yes, my delete key works, too. But I?m getting tired of using it on this topic, and I suspect I?m not alone. > > > Grant NQ5T > K3 #2091, KX3 #8342 > From w1go at icloud.com Tue May 3 16:29:39 2016 From: w1go at icloud.com (W1GO (Joe)) Date: Tue, 03 May 2016 16:29:39 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3: internal 2m transverter offset problem In-Reply-To: <000501d1a566$1580b9e0$40822da0$@net> References: <000501d1a566$1580b9e0$40822da0$@net> Message-ID: <2144A957-B4A3-4A5F-9147-FFD89C5647BF@icloud.com> Jim I have the same issue pre and post REFLOCK installation. My software is up to date. I'm still trying to troubleshoot it. Joe W1GO > On May 3, 2016, at 14:03, Jim Spears wrote: > > I have K3 s/n 6866 with internal 2m transverter. I have not paid much > attention to the transverter for a while but I noticed something odd a > couple days ago and have not been able to do anything about it. > > > > If I set the Elecraft XG3 to 144.100 and feed its output into the > transverter input connector, the signal shows up at 144.095, 5 KHz low. > > > > If I tell this K3 to output 2m rf on 144.100, I hear the signal at 144.015 > on K3 s/n 6425 which has an external 2m transverter. > > > > I first noticed this when monitoring a local 2m FM repeater and could not > copy its output until I tuned 5 KHz low. > > > > The K3 does have an external 10 MHz clock and CONFIG REF CAL has the > blinking asterisk. FWIW, the value shown is 49.379.962. > > > > CONFIG XV OFS is 144 -0.08 and cannot be changed, when I go to adjust it > REFLOCK appears. > > > > What's up Doc? > > > > Jim/N1NK > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w1go at icloud.com From Gary at ka1j.com Tue May 3 16:59:26 2016 From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith) Date: Tue, 03 May 2016 16:59:26 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] PSK software with K3s Message-ID: <5729112E.1148.3CE6772@Gary.ka1j.com> As much as I love RTTY, I want to explore the PSK mode a bit. I have used the internal decoder/CW keying to transmit but would like to have a screen to copy so I don't have to be so focused on the scrolling in the K3s. Thanks to much great help here and good pointers, I have set the RTTY option to AFSK A and use MMTTY. I haven't used it much but have successfully used N1MM with the MMTTY engine successfully as well. So with this info, is there a software to recommend that uses the internal "audio card" of the K3s that will decode/send the PSK modes through my K3s, that won't require much modification of the settings in either MMTTY or N1MM for me to use it well? Thanks & 73, Gary KA1J From k0dxv at aol.com Tue May 3 17:15:23 2016 From: k0dxv at aol.com (Doug Person) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 14:15:23 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] PSK software with K3s In-Reply-To: <5729112E.1148.3CE6772@Gary.ka1j.com> References: <5729112E.1148.3CE6772@Gary.ka1j.com> Message-ID: <2e14f058-21b8-5fa8-3c83-1a98830b3ca3@aol.com> Sure! fldigi will operate on any platform and run just about any mode you can imagine. You wouldn't need MMTTY since fldigi can operate rtty in any mode you care to use. It's even amazingly good at decoding cw. Doug -- K0DXV On 5/3/2016 1:59 PM, Gary Smith wrote: > As much as I love RTTY, I want to explore the PSK mode a bit. I have > used the internal decoder/CW keying to transmit but would like to > have a screen to copy so I don't have to be so focused on the > scrolling in the K3s. > > Thanks to much great help here and good pointers, I have set the RTTY > option to AFSK A and use MMTTY. I haven't used it much but have > successfully used N1MM with the MMTTY engine successfully as well. > > So with this info, is there a software to recommend that uses the > internal "audio card" of the K3s that will decode/send the PSK modes > through my K3s, that won't require much modification of the settings > in either MMTTY or N1MM for me to use it well? > > Thanks & 73, > > Gary > KA1J > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k0dxv at aol.com > From ed at w0yk.com Tue May 3 18:12:35 2016 From: ed at w0yk.com (Ed Muns) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 15:12:35 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 POD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6A6FD7808CD14CCFB48309F3C0516D77@h81420t> The K-Pod USB port updates only the K-Pod firmware, not the K3 firmware. Ed W0YK ____________________________________________________________ Ben W4SC wrote: Is this another path available to update K3/K3S f/w? It will be nice if it is. Not clear in the spec sheet. USB Port and 3 General-Purpose Outputs A USB port is provided on the K-Pod for firmware updates................... From repair at willcoele.com Tue May 3 18:17:31 2016 From: repair at willcoele.com (wa9fvp) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 15:17:31 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Amplitude Modulation on FM. Message-ID: <1462313851948-7617137.post@n2.nabble.com> When operating 6 meter FM I'm seeing amplitude modulation on my K3. I have the all the upgrades including the KIO3B and the KSYN3A. Into a 50 ohm load at 200 watts the KPA500 peaks at 300 watts. I disconnected the IO cables including USB but nothing changed. ----- Jack WA9FVP Sent from my TRS-80 :-) -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Amplitude-Modulation-on-FM-tp7617137.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From donwilh at embarqmail.com Tue May 3 18:28:06 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 18:28:06 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] PSK software with K3s In-Reply-To: <5729112E.1148.3CE6772@Gary.ka1j.com> References: <5729112E.1148.3CE6772@Gary.ka1j.com> Message-ID: Gary, Look at Fldigi and also at Ham Radio Deluxe. Review the information on the respective websites to get an idea of which one will work better for your expectations. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/3/2016 4:59 PM, Gary Smith wrote: > As much as I love RTTY, I want to explore the PSK mode a bit. I have > used the internal decoder/CW keying to transmit but would like to > have a screen to copy so I don't have to be so focused on the > scrolling in the K3s. > > Thanks to much great help here and good pointers, I have set the RTTY > option to AFSK A and use MMTTY. I haven't used it much but have > successfully used N1MM with the MMTTY engine successfully as well. > From nq5t at tx.rr.com Tue May 3 18:37:42 2016 From: nq5t at tx.rr.com (GRANT YOUNGMAN) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 17:37:42 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3: Apparent "bug" fw 1.42 Message-ID: <6987D7D2-5680-4539-B5D8-EFD21EA9683A@tx.rr.com> I haven?t tried this on previous firmware versions, but it does exist in the current beta. Looked through Nabble and didn?t see anything related, but might have missed it. Just started playing with digi modes so haven?t haven?t had a need to look at this previously. A long press on the MENU button will toggle between the three display modes (1) Spectrum/Waterfall, (2) Spectrum/Waterfall/Button-Menu, (3) Spectrum/Waterfall/Text. When in mode (1) above, the maximum Waterfall height can be adjusted to 139. Same in mode (2) above. However, in mode (3) above the Waterfall height can only be set to a maximum of 100 (which is still a reasonable display, but does not follow the pattern). However ? let?s say we set the Waterfall to 139 in mode (1). If I toggle to mode (2), the Waterfall height remains at 139. If I toggle to mode (3), the Waterfall height reverts to 100. And then the next toggle, which goes back to mode (1), RESETS the Waterfall height to 100 instead of holding it at the previously set 139. If I then POWER OFF the KX3, and power it back on, the Waterfall height in mode (1) RETURNS TO 139. Until I cycle around the options again ? Something isn?t working right ? a setting is getting lost or reset inadvertently. Can anyone else verify this behavior? Any input from the PX3 folks? Is this a bug, or am I missing something? Thanks ? Grant NQ5T K3 #2091, KX3 #8342 From donwilh at embarqmail.com Tue May 3 18:37:36 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 18:37:36 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Amplitude Modulation on FM. In-Reply-To: <1462313851948-7617137.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1462313851948-7617137.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Jack, What does the FM output look like direct from the K3? In other words, disconnect the KPA500 and see if the AM problem is still present. That will tell you whether it is a K3 problem or a KPA500 problem. Do not overlook the possibility that it is RF feedback getting into something. If the problem gets worse with increased power, suspect RFI. Also working into a dummy load should eliminate the possibility of RFI. If RFI is the problem, better common mode chokes on your antenna and tighter feedline connections are the tools to attack it. Also monitor the AC voltage during transmit as well as the output voltage of your power supply. If one or both sag substantially, that problem should be fixed first - for the AC side, better wiring to the AC receptacle (dedicated circuit), and for the power supply output, either tighter connections or larger wire, or there could be an internal problem in the power supply. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/3/2016 6:17 PM, wa9fvp wrote: > When operating 6 meter FM I'm seeing amplitude modulation on my K3. I have > the all the upgrades including the KIO3B and the KSYN3A. Into a 50 ohm load > at 200 watts the KPA500 peaks at 300 watts. I disconnected the IO cables > including USB but nothing changed. > > > > ----- > Jack WA9FVP > > Sent from my TRS-80 :-) > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Amplitude-Modulation-on-FM-tp7617137.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com > From donwilh at embarqmail.com Tue May 3 18:50:21 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 18:50:21 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3: Apparent "bug" fw 1.42 In-Reply-To: <6987D7D2-5680-4539-B5D8-EFD21EA9683A@tx.rr.com> References: <6987D7D2-5680-4539-B5D8-EFD21EA9683A@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: Grant, The reason it limits the waterfall to 100 in mode 3 is to make more room for the text decode. Why the maximum value does not go back to 139 when you cycle around to 1) again is not something I can make any statements about. Perhaps Paul S will comment (bug or 'feature'). Finding things of this nature is what the beta version is all about. You might want to email Paul directly pauls at you-know-where dot com with your report in case he is not monitoring the reflector at this time. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/3/2016 6:37 PM, GRANT YOUNGMAN wrote: > I haven?t tried this on previous firmware versions, but it does exist in the current beta. Looked through Nabble and didn?t see anything related, but might have missed it. Just started playing with digi modes so haven?t haven?t had a need to look at this previously. > > A long press on the MENU button will toggle between the three display modes (1) Spectrum/Waterfall, (2) Spectrum/Waterfall/Button-Menu, (3) Spectrum/Waterfall/Text. > > When in mode (1) above, the maximum Waterfall height can be adjusted to 139. Same in mode (2) above. However, in mode (3) above the Waterfall height can only be set to a maximum of 100 (which is still a reasonable display, but does not follow the pattern). > > However ? let?s say we set the Waterfall to 139 in mode (1). If I toggle to mode (2), the Waterfall height remains at 139. If I toggle to mode (3), the Waterfall height reverts to 100. And then the next toggle, which goes back to mode (1), RESETS the Waterfall height to 100 instead of holding it at the previously set 139. > > If I then POWER OFF the KX3, and power it back on, the Waterfall height in mode (1) RETURNS TO 139. Until I cycle around the options again ? > > From rodenkirch_llc at msn.com Tue May 3 19:19:10 2016 From: rodenkirch_llc at msn.com (Jim Rodenkirch) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 16:19:10 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement In-Reply-To: <57264323.8090904@coho.net> References: <57264323.8090904@coho.net> Message-ID: <1462317550705-7617142.post@n2.nabble.com> Kevin ---- any suggestions on what techniques to employ????? -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Elecraft-CW-Net-Announcement-tp7616983p7617142.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From nq5t at tx.rr.com Tue May 3 20:46:51 2016 From: nq5t at tx.rr.com (GRANT YOUNGMAN) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 19:46:51 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Anomoly (bug?) on AM Message-ID: I posted this a week or so ago, and didn?t get any feedback from Elecraft or anyone on the list. Soo .. I?m going to ?bump? it and post again. You never know ? In further poking at it, it matters not whether the IF shift is set to 8 Khz on the KX3, or whether Hi/Low Cut or PB/Shift is selected etc. It appears to be PX3 related. My guess is that either it?s (1) some artifact of the direct conversion process on the KX3, or (2) perhaps just showing AF bandwidth in some odd way. In any case ? here?s the original post. Anyone have a clue? "If the bandwidth/shift or Hi/Lo cut is NORMalized, the green bandwidth band on the PX3 sits with it?s edges about 3 KHZ above and 3 KHz below the carrier frequency as you might expect. It?s symmetrical around the carrier. If I open up the HI setting to max (4.2 KHz) and set the LO to minimum, the green band is offset to the high frequency side of the carrier ? with the low boundary about 2.2 KHz below the carrier, and the high boundary about 4.4 KHz above the carrier. These points may not be exact, but they were roughly measured using the VFO A marker ? close enough to make the point. And just using the usual reduction in background hiss to retune the carrier, it appears most closely tuned when the VFO is set about 0.9 KHZ above the actual carrier frequency, although even then the green band is offset from either the actual or tuned carrier freq. So can anyone explain what is going on, and why the PX3 display (and maybe the KX3) behavior appears so odd in AM mode. Must be something I missed somewhere along the line.? Grant NQ5T K3 #2091, KX3 #8342 From repair at willcoele.com Tue May 3 20:47:15 2016 From: repair at willcoele.com (wa9fvp) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 17:47:15 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Amplitude Modulation on FM. In-Reply-To: References: <1462313851948-7617137.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1462322835846-7617143.post@n2.nabble.com> I think I know the problem. My widest filter is 6KHz, I'll have replace it with the 13KHz filter. ----- Jack WA9FVP Sent from my TRS-80 :-) -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Amplitude-Modulation-on-FM-tp7617137p7617143.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From egrimseid at gmail.com Tue May 3 20:54:25 2016 From: egrimseid at gmail.com (Erlend Grimseid) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 02:54:25 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Solar backpacking power advice In-Reply-To: <9608F636-D2B8-4063-A79D-EF3F159E11FD@comcast.net> References: <1DB75EB5-6740-49A1-B691-381B372506C9@wunderwood.org> <9608F636-D2B8-4063-A79D-EF3F159E11FD@comcast.net> Message-ID: I did some research and calculations on this subject for an trip last summer. If I remember correctly I found that an adequate solar panel weighs about the same as an weeks worth of lifepo4. So I just brought an bigger battery. And I'm glad I did as there where no sun the entire week. La4tta Erlend 3. mai 2016 00:38 skrev "H Doug Plunkett" : > Lynn, > > I haven't tried it with my KX3 but I'm an avid Appalachian Trail hiker and > have run into several hikers with solar panels on top of their backpacks > charging iPhones and weather radios as they hike. Not sure if the output is > sufficient for us hams but it's probably getting there. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 2, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT > wrote: > > > > It's been a while since I've been backpacking, but this got me to > thinking.... > > > > If you're actively hiking, you can't really hang a panel on your pack > and plan on it being pointed at the sun. That means either staying put to > charge batteries, or bigger panels for faster charging, or bigger batteries > for the days you can't effectively charge, or something like that. > > > > Is solar charging in this case even practical? The bigger the panel, > the heavier the load. > > > > A quick and dirty, conservative calculation suggests that the lithiums > would be good for a couple of days of "a few hours" at 5 watts. Probably > twice that at "an hour or so." > > > > 73 -- Lynn > > > >> On 5/2/2016 9:02 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: > >> If you don?t mind non-rechargeable batteries, AA lithium primary cells > are the lightest option. They are about 0.5 ounce each, so a 3000 mAh set > weighs 4 ounces. Carrying a spare set of those will be lighter than a solar > panel. They are also 1.5 V, so you get 36 Wh from a set instead of 25 Wh > from a set of 2500 mAh NiMh cell. > >> > >> On May 2, 2016, at 7:53 AM, Joe Moffatt wrote: > >> > >> Anyhow, I am trying to figure out what to use for portable solar > rechargeable power while backpacking in the mountains. My typical trip > will be 2-3 days, a few hours a day operating primarily CW. 5 watts is > fine for CW.... > >> > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to hdplunkett at comcast.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to egrimseid at gmail.com From wb4ooa at gmail.com Tue May 3 21:46:56 2016 From: wb4ooa at gmail.com (Ron Durie) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 21:46:56 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S 10684 DISPLAY BLANK Message-ID: <004b01d1a5a6$d7c6f6f0$8754e4d0$@gmail.com> Has been working perfectly for almost 3 months. The backlight is working ok but no display digits at all. The rest to of the radio is all working normally. Parameter Initialization made no change. Tomorrow I plan to remove the front panel and check all the connector pins. Has anyone had this same problem? WB4OOA Elecraft K-Line From w4sc at windstream.net Tue May 3 21:52:16 2016 From: w4sc at windstream.net (w4sc) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 21:52:16 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Excess K3 K3S KRX3 Options Only FL3A remains. In-Reply-To: References: <42351278838A4D31827B45AA68DA1442@z22z28> Message-ID: Only KFL3A left. All else sold. 4) KFL3A-2.8K 2.8 kHz, 8-pole filter Mint $120.00 Includes tracking, insured, Priority Shipping. Other shipping methods extra. Please reply OFF list. 73 de Ben W4SC -----Original Message----- From: w4sc Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 2:25 PM To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Excess K3 K3S KRX3 Options Excess to my needs. 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Please reply OFF list. 73 de Ben W4SC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w4sc at windstream.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w4sc at windstream.net From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Tue May 3 22:08:25 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (wickedbeernut) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 19:08:25 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] PX3: Apparent "bug" fw 1.42 In-Reply-To: <6987D7D2-5680-4539-B5D8-EFD21EA9683A@tx.rr.com> References: <6987D7D2-5680-4539-B5D8-EFD21EA9683A@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <1462327705328-7617148.post@n2.nabble.com> Holding the MENU / LABELS switch toggles between 0 (FN key labels off), 1 (FN key labels on) and 2 (text decode on). Tapping the DISP / AVERAGE switch toggles between 0 (spectrum only) and 1 (spectrum + waterfall). With text decode off, the Waterfall window height range is 20 - 139. With text decode on, the Waterfall window height range depends on the Text menu / Txt Font, 5x7: 20 - 130 ?7x11: 20 - 100 ?9x14: 20 - 80 I assume the Text menu / Waterfall value is read from the EEPROM into a "local variable" at the time the PX3 is powered on. With text decode on, the Waterfall local variable is (potentially) "capped" based on the Text menu / Txt Font. Note: This doesn't change the Text menu / Waterfall value stored in the EEPROM. For example, if the Text menu / Waterfall value is 139, Text menu / Txt Font is 7x11 and text decode is on, the Waterfall local variable is capped at 100. You're pointing out that if text decode is turned off, the Text menu / Waterfall value is not restored (i.e., not re-read from the EEPROM). If you power the PX3 off and on, the Text menu / Waterfall value is re-read from the EEPROM. If text decode is off, the Waterfall local variable is not capped. The Waterfall local variable is 139. Paul can address whether the Text menu / Waterfall value can be re-read from the EEPROM in turning text decode off or possibly maintaining / deriving the capped Waterfall local variable separately / independently. Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-Apparent-bug-fw-1-42-tp7617139p7617148.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From donwilh at embarqmail.com Tue May 3 22:46:05 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 22:46:05 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Anomoly (bug?) on AM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13d15292-84f0-ddc8-976c-6c8b49944c22@embarqmail.com> Grant, It would appear that you are running up against the bandwidth limit of the KX3 audio when you widen the bandwidth with HiCut. I don't know what the limits are, but from your observations, it may be that the maximum bandwidth is in the vicinity of 6.4kHz. So if you have 4.2 kHz on one side, you will be restricted to 2.2kHz on the low side. If you back off the high side to 3.1kHz, is the AM response centered? I am just venturing a guess, the maximum audio bandwidth is not specified for the KX3. 73, W3FPR On 5/3/2016 8:46 PM, GRANT YOUNGMAN wrote: > I posted this a week or so ago, and didn?t get any feedback from Elecraft or anyone on the list. Soo .. I?m going to ?bump? it and post again. You never know ? > > In further poking at it, it matters not whether the IF shift is set to 8 Khz on the KX3, or whether Hi/Low Cut or PB/Shift is selected etc. It appears to be PX3 related. My guess is that either it?s (1) some artifact of the direct conversion process on the KX3, or (2) perhaps just showing AF bandwidth in some odd way. In any case ? here?s the original post. Anyone have a clue? > > > > "If the bandwidth/shift or Hi/Lo cut is NORMalized, the green bandwidth band on the PX3 sits with it?s edges about 3 KHZ above and 3 KHz below the carrier frequency as you might expect. It?s symmetrical around the carrier. If I open up the HI setting to max (4.2 KHz) and set the LO to minimum, the green band is offset to the high frequency side of the carrier ? with the low boundary about 2.2 KHz below the carrier, and the high boundary about 4.4 KHz above the carrier. These points may not be exact, but they were roughly measured using the VFO A marker ? close enough to make the point. And just using the usual reduction in background hiss to retune the carrier, it appears most closely tuned when the VFO is set about 0.9 KHZ above the actual carrier frequency, although even then the green band is offset from either the actual or tuned carrier freq. > > From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Tue May 3 22:54:34 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 02:54:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] PX3: Apparent "bug" fw 1.42 In-Reply-To: <6EA6ED83-9ADF-47CF-8F6A-E6C784E5F6C9@icloud.com> References: <6EA6ED83-9ADF-47CF-8F6A-E6C784E5F6C9@icloud.com> Message-ID: <621727046.5947418.1462330474700.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Grant, Yes, that's what I meant by "...??maintaining / deriving the capped Waterfall local variable separately / independently." ?I'm sure Paul will acknowledge it as a bug and fix it. JoeKF5WBO From: GRANT YOUNGMAN To: wickedbeernut Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PX3: Apparent "bug" fw 1.42 Sounds rational.? It does seem to me that the most logical approach, presuming all of this is the case, would be to always pull the Waterfall height from EEPROM, cap it when necessary in text decode mode, and otherwise leave it the stored value.? That would solve it. Thanks ? Grant NQ5T > > > You're pointing out that if text decode is turned off, the Text menu / > Waterfall value is not restored (i.e., not re-read from the EEPROM). > > If you power the PX3 off and on, the Text menu / Waterfall value is re-read > from the EEPROM.? If text decode is off, the Waterfall local variable is not > capped.? The Waterfall local variable is 139. > From nq5t at tx.rr.com Tue May 3 23:02:24 2016 From: nq5t at tx.rr.com (GRANT YOUNGMAN) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 22:02:24 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Anomoly (bug?) on AM In-Reply-To: <13d15292-84f0-ddc8-976c-6c8b49944c22@embarqmail.com> References: <13d15292-84f0-ddc8-976c-6c8b49944c22@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <2F7C79FE-0ADE-4BFB-BEE6-DBC3CFDB1BD4@tx.rr.com> This may be. I don?t know if this is a bug, or just the way it is. The fact is that it is an odd display for the mode. The P3 by comparison is quite ?normal? for AM. It would be more logical to show the presumptive equivalent ?IF? on either side of the carrier, or (if Elecraft ever implements the stub to a sync detector) just one sideband above or below the carrier. As it is, the display is hard to interpret. It does appear to depict the ?audio? bandwidth. For example, if you bring up the lower edge of the green band to the carrier it?s clear the effect is just cutting the low frequency audio ? e.g., you can?t retune the radio to center the bandwidth on the AM signal ? it jut cuts the lows and renders the thing unintelligible. Now if there were a really good explanation for how to interpret it (and yours may be part of it), that would be fine, too. When the receive bandwidth is NORM'ed, it is symmetric about the carrier. But it ought to stay that way as the bandwidth is increased. There may be a perfectly good reason why it behaves the way it does. It just isn?t explained anywhere. It also doesn?t explain why it seems at least, that the KX3 needs to be tuned slightly off frequency to ?center? the signal when the bandwidth is fully maximized. Grant NQ5T K3 #2091, KX3 #8342 > On May 3, 2016, at 9:46 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > > Grant, > > It would appear that you are running up against the bandwidth limit of the > KX3 audio when you widen the bandwidth with HiCut. > I don't know what the limits are, but from your observations, it may be that the maximum bandwidth is in the vicinity of 6.4kHz. > > So if you have 4.2 kHz on one side, you will be restricted to 2.2kHz on the low side. > If you back off the high side to 3.1kHz, is the AM response centered? > > I am just venturing a guess, the maximum audio bandwidth is not specified for the KX3. > From michaelheit at yahoo.com Tue May 3 23:05:13 2016 From: michaelheit at yahoo.com (Michael Heit) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 03:05:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] New KX3 up & running. References: <1660159483.7638688.1462331113363.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1660159483.7638688.1462331113363.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I completed the assembly of the KX3 and the 100 watt Amp. Also set up the Buddie pole Deluxe and was blown away by the overall quality of all the equipment. Now to get it all tuned up; need to do the temperature compensation for the roofing filters,figure out how to get the Heil headset / mic working so when I talk it transmits ... the sound in the earphones is great but I cannot get the mic to go VOX. No matter how I follow the manual for set up it doesn't seem to work. The included Elecraft mic works of course ... The auto tuner is phenomenal though I haven't yet fired up the amp with its auto tuner. This Friday I'm heading down to Kislof, Alaska for work and plan to take the KX3 for its first field test. My main focus will be HF voice; I have to wonder if a firmware upgrade in the future may allow digital voice from the KX3? I also want to use Ham Radio Deluxe for rig control and other digital operations like PSK, RTTY, etc. so now to figure out the cable connections. I've seen a number of photo's showing the use of the Signalink USB but cannot understand why one would be needed; I have one on my Icom IC7000 so if needed I could change the internal links for the KX3.? Memorial Day will see us heading out to Deadmans Lake and another field test; Field Day will see us up on Tower Mountain at Ft. Wainwright, then the big test will be in July when we head up above the Arctic Circle on the haul road for some real Alaska bush ops ... I'm itching to try out some QRP and see what happens. There is a easy access mountain up there that I would love to try SOTA too ....I have to get back into my CW daze and get up to speed. When I use the KX3 paddles I hear a ping from the speaker when I get to sending CW; what would cause this? If anyone is interested in follow up reports I'll post them ... photo's too if anyone would like to see my "go bag" set up. 73 all, Mike AD7VV?Michael D. Heit A&P/IA DAR-TPresidentNorth Star Aviation LLCNorth Pole, Alaska 99705 From pincon at erols.com Tue May 3 09:15:40 2016 From: pincon at erols.com (Charlie T, K3ICH) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 09:15:40 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric In-Reply-To: <57286855.10201@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <001201d1a498$ba8a11d0$2f9e3570$@windstream.net> <57286855.10201@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <002c01d1a53d$e80efee0$b82cfca0$@erols.com> You're too modest to have added your own name to the group. Also, I have no problem with (civil !) rig comparisons cross posted. Thanks to all for their interest and input. Charlie k3ICH -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 4:59 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Centric Yes. In any group where you're paying attention, you tend to figure out who the heavy hitters are, who provide the needed BS filters. W3FPR, N7WS, K2AV, W4TV, AB7E, W4NZ, W9AC, GM3SEK, W0YK, NY9H, N6XI are a few members of this group who come to mind. Jim K9YC On Mon,5/2/2016 10:33 AM, Dick Dickinson wrote: > I have seen this reflector as much of being a 'club' rather than a > forum with a strictly focused on Elecraft. That factor may be useful > for many, particularly newer operators who might have questions along > the lines of antennas, operating circumstances and conventions, as > well as accessories (Elecraft or other). ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pincon at erols.com From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Wed May 4 00:15:26 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (wickedbeernut) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 21:15:26 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 / KXBC3 NiMH Battery Charger and Real-Time Clock Message-ID: <1462335326556-7617153.post@n2.nabble.com> I have a dumb question ... why doesn't the KX3 support the current month, day and year in conjunction with the KXBC3? Is this a limitation of the KX3 firmware or the KXBC3 real-time clock? I've never heard of a real-time clock which didn't support the current month, day and year. Most support leap year compensation and are valid through at least 2100. Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-KXBC3-NiMH-Battery-Charger-and-Real-Time-Clock-tp7617153.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From lstavenhagen at hotmail.com Wed May 4 00:28:23 2016 From: lstavenhagen at hotmail.com (lstavenhagen) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 21:28:23 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] New KX3 up & running. In-Reply-To: <1660159483.7638688.1462331113363.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1660159483.7638688.1462331113363.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1462336103238-7617155.post@n2.nabble.com> Congrats! And on the Buddipole, I'd suggest ordering a set of the long telescoping whips (the near-10 footers) and just getting that overwith now, if you don't have them already. The stock short whips work ok on 15 meters and up, but on 20 meters tuning gets very very sensitive and narrow-banded. 30 and 40 forget it lol. With the long whips, it's much easier to tune on the lower bands, and 15 and up they're long enough to form full length dipoles. The performance on the air is significantly better as well... But even so, the Buddipole is one of the best ham radio investments you'll find you've made, next to your Elecraft rigs of course ;) 73 LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/New-KX3-up-running-tp7617152p7617155.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Wed May 4 00:42:01 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 21:42:01 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX3 up & running. In-Reply-To: <1462336103238-7617155.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1660159483.7638688.1462331113363.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1462336103238-7617155.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <57297D99.2000606@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Tue,5/3/2016 9:28 PM, lstavenhagen wrote: > But even so, the Buddipole is one of the best ham radio investments you'll find you've made, I've never understood the logic of that -- lightweight, easy to support antennas that are more effective are a lot cheaper. 73, Jim K9YC From lstavenhagen at hotmail.com Wed May 4 01:22:26 2016 From: lstavenhagen at hotmail.com (lstavenhagen) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 22:22:26 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] New KX3 up & running. In-Reply-To: <57297D99.2000606@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <1660159483.7638688.1462331113363.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1462336103238-7617155.post@n2.nabble.com> <57297D99.2000606@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <1462339346339-7617157.post@n2.nabble.com> Well, you get what you pay for is about all I can say there. The Buddipole is so well thought out and constructed you don't have to replace half of it with upgrades as soon as you buy it, like some of the cheaper alternatives I looked at. You're basically done with the credit card the first time around unless you need extra accessories like the aforementioned whips, and you don't have to get it out again for a long time. It just works and it stays together in the field, which for me makes it worth what I paid for it. The only thing I had to repair was the painters-pole style attachment at the top of the telescoping mast. It's held on with just a set screw; I had to remove it and reinstall using hot melt glue and it's been permanent ever since. That's the only problem I've had. So yeah you can get other antennas for cheaper, but nothing else I looked at looked like it could survive throwing around and setup/teardown etc. on a repeated basis for a long time like the BP. And it's definitely proven itself to not break or strand me out in the mountains for sure... 73 LS W5QD Jim Brown-10 wrote > I've never understood the logic of that -- lightweight, easy to support > antennas that are more effective are a lot cheaper. > > 73, Jim K9YC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto: > Elecraft at .qth > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to > lists+1215531472858-365791 at .nabble -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/New-KX3-up-running-tp7617152p7617157.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From g8kbvdave at googlemail.com Wed May 4 03:54:29 2016 From: g8kbvdave at googlemail.com (Dave B) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 08:54:29 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Clifton Labs Preamp Needed Here Also In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5729AAB5.70908@googlemail.com> Mornin... As the design is all in the public domain, plus all the notes and photo's from the old Clifton site (and many others) are still about regarding transformer coupled "noiseless feedback" amps, there is not a lot preventing anyone from building their own. Or any number of similar HF pre-amps. Makes a nice construction project, dead bug, tag-strip or whatever technique you can do. Plenty of data about too, as to what cores to use, and where to get them from. Even easier for those of you residing in the USA than the rest of us elsewhere in the world. 73 Dave G0WBX contemplating doing this very thing. Time permitted. On 04/05/16 01:54, elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net wrote: > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 03 May 2016 10:45:49 -0400 > From: Dennis Brickey > To:elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Clifton Labs Preamp Needed Here Also > Message-ID:<5odgryperonldnu4jr8cmsad.1462284863009 at email.android.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Good Morning, > > I am in in need of one of the Clifton Labs Z1000B preamps for a K2 mod. If anyone has one excess to their needs, please contact me offline. Thanks for your help. > > Dennis N4DD > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Wed May 4 04:36:17 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 00:36:17 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] K3: internal 2m transverter offset problem Message-ID: <201605040836.u448aHx1024834@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> Jim, First the XG3 is not exact on frequency. I use a very good counter which will read up to 26-GHz and has an internal TCXO. I've noted the XG3 being off up to several tens of Hz, so to use as a frequency std is not sufficient for measuring EXREF frequency accuracy. Its pretty good for its intended use as signal source. But 5-KHz is quite a lot for 2m. Frequency accuracy is the sum of the K3 error and transverter LO. Most often I find the transverter that uses a xtal LO can be quite far off frequency. You pretty much need a frequency counter to read this (if IF is 28-MHz, then LO is 116-MHz). At present my 2m transverter LO is low by 50-Hz since I have not adjusted it for some time. Originally, I had it within +5 Hz. I recently fixed my EXREF in the K3 and its within 1-Hz at 28-MHz. But sometime during the time my EXREF was not working*, I entered a fixed offset for the transverter in the k3 CONFIG: XV1 OFS. I was wondering why my frequency was off 22-Hz after fixing the EXREF. I had to disable EXREF to reset the offset to zero. Then after reentering EXREF my 28-MHz frequency was within 1-Hz (after 15-min warm up). Your REF CAL looks normal for running EXREF after warm up. The TCXO will drift as it warms up resulting in the EXREF correction. You should not see much change once the K3 is fully warmed up. Using a transverter+K3 as frequency meter is not very conclusive if you have not checked it with an accurate counter. Most VHF radios and HF+VHF transverters will be off frequency at VHF unless one has checked with an accurate frequency counter. Usually I see up to 100-Hz of error from other VHF stations. Makes it fun running the RIT during a 2m SSB net. Have you measured the K3 frequency at IF? I will guess the error is in the transverter LO. You can check the K3 against 15-MHz WWV. 73, Ed - KL7UW *EXREF quit because of a loose sma connector from the 10-MHz source. Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 14:03:23 -0400 From: "Jim Spears" To: Cc: Subject: [Elecraft] K3: internal 2m transverter offset problem Message-ID: <000501d1a566$1580b9e0$40822da0$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have K3 s/n 6866 with internal 2m transverter. I have not paid much attention to the transverter for a while but I noticed something odd a couple days ago and have not been able to do anything about it. If I set the Elecraft XG3 to 144.100 and feed its output into the transverter input connector, the signal shows up at 144.095, 5 KHz low. If I tell this K3 to output 2m rf on 144.100, I hear the signal at 144.015 on K3 s/n 6425 which has an external 2m transverter. I first noticed this when monitoring a local 2m FM repeater and could not copy its output until I tuned 5 KHz low. The K3 does have an external 10 MHz clock and CONFIG REF CAL has the blinking asterisk. FWIW, the value shown is 49.379.962. CONFIG XV OFS is 144 -0.08 and cannot be changed, when I go to adjust it REFLOCK appears. What's up Doc? Jim/N1NK 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From pa3a at xs4all.nl Wed May 4 06:40:46 2016 From: pa3a at xs4all.nl (Arie Kleingeld PA3A) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 12:40:46 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] Need Advice In-Reply-To: <3226EE97-8DF8-490E-A27D-BFB6C833FA39@yahoo.com> References: <3226EE97-8DF8-490E-A27D-BFB6C833FA39@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <57d2f031-8cf6-29f4-84fe-c4c201b50015@xs4all.nl> Ed, I did the Synth upgrade (= improvement) and the 2nd preamp for the higher bands (= a very necessary feature) That's it for me. 73 Arie PA3A Op 2-5-2016 om 20:49 schreef Ed via Elecraft: > I have had my K3 for a few years and have always kept it up to date. It seems cheaper than taking a loss in selling it and springing for a K3S. I am about to send it in again for the new synth boards and DSP board swap, etc. > > In the end, I will have 90% of a K3S. Is this the way to go? > > Thanks, > Ed NI6S > From gordon.lapoint at gmail.com Wed May 4 08:47:42 2016 From: gordon.lapoint at gmail.com (Gordon LaPoint) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 08:47:42 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] PSK software with K3s In-Reply-To: <5729112E.1148.3CE6772@Gary.ka1j.com> References: <5729112E.1148.3CE6772@Gary.ka1j.com> Message-ID: <5729EF6E.6010108@gmail.com> Gary, MMTTY does only RTTY, but N1MM also uses MMVARI, which does psk modes, just have the DI use MMVARI instead of MMTTY. Gordon - N1MGO On 05/03/2016 04:59 PM, Gary Smith wrote: > As much as I love RTTY, I want to explore the PSK mode a bit. I have > used the internal decoder/CW keying to transmit but would like to > have a screen to copy so I don't have to be so focused on the > scrolling in the K3s. > > Thanks to much great help here and good pointers, I have set the RTTY > option to AFSK A and use MMTTY. I haven't used it much but have > successfully used N1MM with the MMTTY engine successfully as well. > > So with this info, is there a software to recommend that uses the > internal "audio card" of the K3s that will decode/send the PSK modes > through my K3s, that won't require much modification of the settings > in either MMTTY or N1MM for me to use it well? > > Thanks & 73, > > Gary > KA1J > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gordon.lapoint at gmail.com -- Gordon - N1MGO From ppauly at gmail.com Wed May 4 08:58:12 2016 From: ppauly at gmail.com (Peter Pauly) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 08:58:12 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] PSK software with K3s In-Reply-To: <5729EF6E.6010108@gmail.com> References: <5729112E.1148.3CE6772@Gary.ka1j.com> <5729EF6E.6010108@gmail.com> Message-ID: I find MMVARI is easier to "tune" in the RTTY stations and it is built into N1MM+ On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Gordon LaPoint wrote: > Gary, > MMTTY does only RTTY, but N1MM also uses MMVARI, which does psk modes, > just have the DI use MMVARI instead of MMTTY. > > Gordon - N1MGO > On 05/03/2016 04:59 PM, Gary Smith wrote: > >> As much as I love RTTY, I want to explore the PSK mode a bit. I have >> used the internal decoder/CW keying to transmit but would like to >> have a screen to copy so I don't have to be so focused on the >> scrolling in the K3s. >> >> Thanks to much great help here and good pointers, I have set the RTTY >> option to AFSK A and use MMTTY. I haven't used it much but have >> successfully used N1MM with the MMTTY engine successfully as well. >> >> So with this info, is there a software to recommend that uses the >> internal "audio card" of the K3s that will decode/send the PSK modes >> through my K3s, that won't require much modification of the settings >> in either MMTTY or N1MM for me to use it well? >> >> Thanks & 73, >> >> Gary >> KA1J >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to gordon.lapoint at gmail.com >> > > > -- > Gordon - N1MGO > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ppauly at gmail.com > From rodenkirch_llc at msn.com Wed May 4 10:43:49 2016 From: rodenkirch_llc at msn.com (Jim Rodenkirch) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 07:43:49 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement In-Reply-To: <1462317550705-7617142.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <57264323.8090904@coho.net> <1462317550705-7617142.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1462373029466-7617163.post@n2.nabble.com> You mentioned adapting "techniques" to the changing propagation numbers....I am always interested in discovering new methods to combat decreasing propagation influencers so..........I am asking you to share what/how you, personally, adapt your current, change your current or incorporate new "techniques" to combat, overcome or adapt to the lowered propagation conditions....ok???? Jim R. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Elecraft-CW-Net-Announcement-tp7616983p7617163.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From alsopb at comcast.net Wed May 4 10:52:34 2016 From: alsopb at comcast.net (brian) Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 14:52:34 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement In-Reply-To: <1462373029466-7617163.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <57264323.8090904@coho.net> <1462317550705-7617142.post@n2.nabble.com> <1462373029466-7617163.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <572A0CB2.6010809@comcast.net> KPA500 73 DE K3KO On 5/4/2016 14:43 PM, Jim Rodenkirch wrote: > You mentioned adapting "techniques" to the changing propagation numbers....I > am always interested in discovering new methods to combat decreasing > propagation influencers so..........I am asking you to share what/how you, > personally, adapt your current, change your current or incorporate new > "techniques" to combat, overcome or adapt to the lowered propagation > conditions....ok???? > > > > > Jim R. > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Elecraft-CW-Net-Announcement-tp7616983p7617163.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to alsopb at comcast.net > From frantz at pwpconsult.com Wed May 4 10:55:55 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 07:55:55 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Digital Voice, was: New KX3 up & running. In-Reply-To: <1660159483.7638688.1462331113363.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The real problem is which codec and transmission protocol do you use. Icom has D-Star, and Yaesu, instead of supporting D-Star which might have improved digital voice uptake due to larger critical mass, decided to push out its own protocol. (I think they were listening to their commercial division which wants to lock customers into using only their gear. IMHO, that's not ham radio.) Note that with D-Star, the only proprietary part of the protocol is the codec. If you use the chip which supports the codec, you are covered on the intellectual property issues. For me, the supreme irony is that both Icom and Yaesu use the same chip, but can't talk to each other. The other issue is that under weak signal conditions, FM is likely to be better for getting the message through than either of these digital voice protocols. There is a open source protocol which is used on HF, but I don't see much activity using it. As far as Elecraft is concerned, there just isn't usage to justify the engineering time. We didn't see PSK63 support until after the Europeans were running PSK63 contests. 73 Bill AE6JV On 5/4/16 at 8:05 PM, elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Michael Heit via Elecraft) wrote: >I have to wonder if a firmware upgrade in the future may allow >digital voice from the KX3? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Concurrency is hard. 12 out | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | 10 programmers get it wrong. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | - Jeff Frantz | Los Gatos, CA 95032 From wunder at wunderwood.org Wed May 4 11:46:54 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 08:46:54 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Digital Voice, was: New KX3 up & running. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dave Rowe is doing some exciting work with digital voice, all open source specifications and code. It isn?t appropriate for rig firmware yet, because he keeps improving it! You can run FreeDV on a computer or get the outboard SM1000 box ($195). That does the coding and has an audio bypass mode so you can leave it in-line. http://www.rowetel.com/blog/?page_id=3902 https://freedv.org/tiki-index.php wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On May 4, 2016, at 7:55 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: > > The real problem is which codec and transmission protocol do you use. Icom has D-Star, and Yaesu, instead of supporting D-Star which might have improved digital voice uptake due to larger critical mass, decided to push out its own protocol. (I think they were listening to their commercial division which wants to lock customers into using only their gear. IMHO, that's not ham radio.) > > Note that with D-Star, the only proprietary part of the protocol is the codec. If you use the chip which supports the codec, you are covered on the intellectual property issues. For me, the supreme irony is that both Icom and Yaesu use the same chip, but can't talk to each other. > > The other issue is that under weak signal conditions, FM is likely to be better for getting the message through than either of these digital voice protocols. > > There is a open source protocol which is used on HF, but I don't see much activity using it. > > As far as Elecraft is concerned, there just isn't usage to justify the engineering time. We didn't see PSK63 support until after the Europeans were running PSK63 contests. > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > On 5/4/16 at 8:05 PM, elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Michael Heit via Elecraft) wrote: > >> I have to wonder if a firmware upgrade in the future may allow digital voice from the KX3? > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz | Concurrency is hard. 12 out | Periwinkle > (408)356-8506 | 10 programmers get it wrong. | 16345 Englewood Ave > www.pwpconsult.com | - Jeff Frantz | Los Gatos, CA 95032 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com Wed May 4 12:21:19 2016 From: KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 09:21:19 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX3 up & running. In-Reply-To: <1462339346339-7617157.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1660159483.7638688.1462331113363.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1462336103238-7617155.post@n2.nabble.com> <57297D99.2000606@audiosystemsgroup.com> <1462339346339-7617157.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <8df36ae8-5fcc-ef7f-227d-b69e0d3f72e2@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> The first rule of antennas is "put up the biggest thing you possibly can, and if it stays up, it was too small." The Buddipole is SMALL. That's why I don't have one. The other reason, it seems to me that you're paying a premium for a nicely packaged units. I have a 33 foot collapsible kite pole off of eBay, some heavy velcro straps from a big box home improvement store, and some wire. The Buddipole may be a good buy, especially for those who don't want to put a kit together, but I think the "best money you'll ever spend" is a little bit over the top. 73 -- Lynn On 5/3/2016 10:22 PM, lstavenhagen wrote: > Well, you get what you pay for is about all I can say there. The Buddipole is > so well thought out and constructed you don't have to replace half of it > with upgrades as soon as you buy it, like some of the cheaper alternatives I > looked at. From rodenkirch_llc at msn.com Wed May 4 12:27:20 2016 From: rodenkirch_llc at msn.com (Jim Rodenkirch) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 09:27:20 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement In-Reply-To: <572A0CB2.6010809@comcast.net> References: <57264323.8090904@coho.net> <1462317550705-7617142.post@n2.nabble.com> <1462373029466-7617163.post@n2.nabble.com> <572A0CB2.6010809@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1462379240081-7617167.post@n2.nabble.com> Setting aside h/w or s/w - neither part of the family of "technique(s)" descriptors - I'm eager to learn what others are doing to "improve their lot," in the face of declining propagation numbers.....tic, tic, tic...... -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Elecraft-CW-Net-Announcement-tp7616983p7617167.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From wb4ooa at gmail.com Wed May 4 13:02:56 2016 From: wb4ooa at gmail.com (Ron Durie) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 13:02:56 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S 10684 DISPLAY BLANK Message-ID: <003501d1a626$cea51b30$6bef5190$@gmail.com> After talking with Elecraft technical support, I learned that common causes for this problem are poor solder connections on the LCD Driver IC or the LCD itself. Elecraft is sending me a new Display board under Warranty Exchange. At times like these it is reassuring to have such good technical support from Elecraft. One reason I continue to choose products from Elecraft. Ron Durie WB4OOA Elecraft K3s-Line (704) 843-3681 From john at kk9a.com Wed May 4 13:35:34 2016 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 13:35:34 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S 10684 DISPLAY BLANK Message-ID: I have owned Elecraft transceivers for less than a year. I had a couple of issues with one K3S and some issues that were just operator related. In all cases Elecraft very responsive, helpful and resolved the problem. Kudos to Elecraft's customer service department! John KK9A Ron Durie wb4ooa at gmail.com Wed May 4 13:02:56 EDT 2016 After talking with Elecraft technical support, I learned that common causes for this problem are poor solder connections on the LCD Driver IC or the LCD itself. Elecraft is sending me a new Display board under Warranty Exchange. At times like these it is reassuring to have such good technical support from Elecraft. One reason I continue to choose products from Elecraft. Ron Durie WB4OOA From gary.hvizdak at cfl.rr.com Wed May 4 13:51:40 2016 From: gary.hvizdak at cfl.rr.com (Gary W. Hvizdak) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 13:51:40 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] 700 Hz Filters Are Back in Stock! Message-ID: <020401d1a62d$9d5caa50$d815fef0$@cfl.rr.com> To order, please visit http://www.unpcbs.com/backdoor/ This is our first batch since INRAD changed hands last October. Most of them have already been spoken for, so they'll likely sell out fairly quickly. There's typically a 14-week manufacturing lead-time -- so if we choose to commission a subsequent production run -- the earliest a next batch could possibly arrive would be in the August-September timeframe. 73, Gary KI4GGX (webmaster) From gary.hvizdak at cfl.rr.com Wed May 4 13:57:04 2016 From: gary.hvizdak at cfl.rr.com (Gary W. Hvizdak) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 13:57:04 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [K2] Rework Eliminators(TM) Revisited Message-ID: <020a01d1a62e$5e521880$1af64980$@cfl.rr.com> Now that both of our K2 Rework Eliminator(TM) kits are out of production, Ken and I are considering a new circuit board that would include our Option Bypass Headers and Internal Mic Adaptor products. I'm guessing the retail price for the pair of kits would be in the $60 to $80 range. (We would not offer the kits for sale individually.) Please email me at webmaster .. @ .. unpcbs .. dot .. com if you are interested. If the response is promising, I'll add an automated pre-order waiting list page to our website. Note that we would require your advance payment, before committing to production. 73, Gary KI4GGX webmaster http://www.unpcbs.com/ From gary.hvizdak at cfl.rr.com Wed May 4 13:56:03 2016 From: gary.hvizdak at cfl.rr.com (Gary W. Hvizdak) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 13:56:03 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [K2] Rework Eliminators(TM) Revisited Message-ID: <020501d1a62e$39f1f640$add5e2c0$@cfl.rr.com> Now that both of our K2 Rework Eliminator(TM) kits are out of production, Ken and I are considering a new circuit board that would include our Option Bypass Headers and Internal Mic Adaptor products. I'm guessing the retail price for the pair of kits would be in the $60 to $80 range. (We would not offer the kits for sale individually.) Please email me at webmaster .. @ .. unpcbs .. dot .. com if you are interested. If the response is promising, I'll add an automated pre-order waiting list page to our website. Note that we would require your advance payment, before committing to production. 73, Gary KI4GGX webmaster http://www.unpcbs.com/ From dlrwild1 at verizon.net Wed May 4 14:13:01 2016 From: dlrwild1 at verizon.net (dlrwild1 at verizon.net) Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 14:13:01 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] WANTED: K3S/100 with options Message-ID: <5D76EF2E1EB04280BEC517FE5A4BD5BC@hamroomPpc> WANTED: Mint, as new, K3S/100-F (factory built) with the following options: KAT3A, KFL3A-250Hz 8-pole, KFL3A-400Hz 8-pole or KFL3A-500 hz 5-pole, KFL3A-2.8K 8-pole. May condiser other options also, but not necessary. State price and serial number, method of payment. Rose?s dust cover a plus for sale. Contact Bob, K3SRO at dlrwild1 at verizon.net From farrerfolks at yahoo.com Wed May 4 14:26:36 2016 From: farrerfolks at yahoo.com (Mel Farrer) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 18:26:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] Digital Voice, was: New KX3 up & running. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1426992702.6205179.1462386396591.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Please look up E field or Cross field antennas.? This antenna design has been around for a long time and has not been terribly accepted.? Mel, K6KBE From: Bill Frantz To: Michael Heit Cc: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net; Michael Heit Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 7:55 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Digital Voice, was: New KX3 up & running. The real problem is which codec and transmission protocol do you use. Icom has D-Star, and Yaesu, instead of supporting D-Star which might have improved digital voice uptake due to larger critical mass, decided to push out its own protocol. (I think they were listening to their commercial division which wants to lock customers into using only their gear. IMHO, that's not ham radio.) Note that with D-Star, the only proprietary part of the protocol is the codec. If you use the chip which supports the codec, you are covered on the intellectual property issues. For me, the supreme irony is that both Icom and Yaesu use the same chip, but can't talk to each other. The other issue is that under weak signal conditions, FM is likely to be better for getting the message through than either of these digital voice protocols. There is a open source protocol which is used on HF, but I don't see much activity using it. As far as Elecraft is concerned, there just isn't usage to justify the engineering time. We didn't see PSK63 support until after the Europeans were running PSK63 contests. 73 Bill AE6JV On 5/4/16 at 8:05 PM, elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Michael Heit via Elecraft) wrote: >I have to wonder if a firmware upgrade in the future may allow >digital voice from the KX3? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz? ? ? ? | Concurrency is hard. 12 out? | Periwinkle (408)356-8506? ? ? | 10 programmers get it wrong. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com |? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - Jeff Frantz | Los Gatos, CA 95032 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to farrerfolks at yahoo.com From alpinesrgreat at yahoo.com Wed May 4 16:06:22 2016 From: alpinesrgreat at yahoo.com (Steve McLenachen) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 20:06:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] Stiffer KXPD3 spring In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <544243802.8412689.1462392382442.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Has anyone found a stiffer than stock spring for their paddle? I already have the stiff one in there but I think it's too light. Thanks,N9SKMSteven M From dave at nk7z.net Wed May 4 16:20:00 2016 From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole) Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 13:20:00 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Digital Voice, was: New KX3 up & running. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1462393200.3587.21.camel@nk7z.net> Once DV is working well, and stable, it would be so cool to see it on the K3, as a mode. -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net For MixW support see: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info For SSTV help see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info On Wed, 2016-05-04 at 08:46 -0700, Walter Underwood wrote: > Dave Rowe is doing some exciting work with digital voice, all open > source specifications and code. It isn?t appropriate for rig firmware > yet, because he keeps improving it! > > You can run FreeDV on a computer or get the outboard SM1000 box > ($195). That does the coding and has an audio bypass mode so you can > leave it in-line. > > http://www.rowetel.com/blog/?page_id=3902 > > https://freedv.org/tiki-index.php > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > > > > > On May 4, 2016, at 7:55 AM, Bill Frantz > > wrote: > > > > The real problem is which codec and transmission protocol do you > > use. Icom has D-Star, and Yaesu, instead of supporting D-Star which > > might have improved digital voice uptake due to larger critical > > mass, decided to push out its own protocol. (I think they were > > listening to their commercial division which wants to lock > > customers into using only their gear. IMHO, that's not ham radio.) > > > > Note that with D-Star, the only proprietary part of the protocol is > > the codec. If you use the chip which supports the codec, you are > > covered on the intellectual property issues. For me, the supreme > > irony is that both Icom and Yaesu use the same chip, but can't talk > > to each other. > > > > The other issue is that under weak signal conditions, FM is likely > > to be better for getting the message through than either of these > > digital voice protocols. > > > > There is a open source protocol which is used on HF, but I don't > > see much activity using it. > > > > As far as Elecraft is concerned, there just isn't usage to justify > > the engineering time. We didn't see PSK63 support until after the > > Europeans were running PSK63 contests. > > > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > > > On 5/4/16 at 8:05 PM, elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Michael Heit via > > Elecraft) wrote: > > > > > > > > I have to wonder if a firmware upgrade in the future may allow > > > digital voice from the KX3? > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------ > > Bill Frantz????????| Concurrency is hard. 12 out??| Periwinkle > > (408)356-8506??????| 10 programmers get it wrong. | 16345 Englewood > > Ave > > www.pwpconsult.com |????????????????- Jeff Frantz | Los Gatos, CA > > 95032 > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dave at nk7z.net From donwilh at embarqmail.com Wed May 4 16:19:41 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 16:19:41 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Stiffer KXPD3 spring In-Reply-To: <544243802.8412689.1462392382442.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <544243802.8412689.1462392382442.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <89666f1e-2c6d-979e-c90a-91c3109e005e@embarqmail.com> Steven, How much spring action is an individual preference. Some prefer a very light touch while others prefer something a bit more heavy. Have you tried carefully stretching the stock spring? Be careful not to stretch too far at a time, but do it in increments until it feels right for you. You can always get new springs from Elecraft and start over if you go too far. Like most springs of that type, once you extend it by stretching, you will not be able to undo that action by compressing the spring. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/4/2016 4:06 PM, Steve McLenachen via Elecraft wrote: > Has anyone found a stiffer than stock spring for their paddle? I already have the stiff one in there but I think it's too light. > Thanks,N9SKMSteven M > From jock.irvine at gmail.com Wed May 4 18:01:10 2016 From: jock.irvine at gmail.com (Jock Irvine) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 18:01:10 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Stiffer KXPD3 spring In-Reply-To: <544243802.8412689.1462392382442.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <544243802.8412689.1462392382442.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This fellow on YouTube put a piece of drinking straw between the paddles for a stiffer feel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvDeDWXv-z8 Jock N1JI On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Steve McLenachen via Elecraft < elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > Has anyone found a stiffer than stock spring for their paddle? I already > have the stiff one in there but I think it's too light. > Thanks,N9SKMSteven M > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jock.irvine at gmail.com > From lstavenhagen at hotmail.com Wed May 4 18:09:42 2016 From: lstavenhagen at hotmail.com (lstavenhagen) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 15:09:42 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] New KX3 up & running. In-Reply-To: <8df36ae8-5fcc-ef7f-227d-b69e0d3f72e2@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> References: <1660159483.7638688.1462331113363.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1462336103238-7617155.post@n2.nabble.com> <57297D99.2000606@audiosystemsgroup.com> <1462339346339-7617157.post@n2.nabble.com> <8df36ae8-5fcc-ef7f-227d-b69e0d3f72e2@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Message-ID: <1462399782134-7617179.post@n2.nabble.com> Maybe it's more an in-the-eye-of-the-beholder sort of thing then lol. My first rule of antennas is "put up what stays up, and stays up every time". That of course, is my /P influence talking, so the rules are a little different for me: - The Buddipole may just look nicely packaged, but in actually it really is as well built as it looks. Unlike the typical DIY project it really truly doesn't break on you way out in the mountains in some way you never would have thought of unless you've built it 50 times already before. It's already got all that experience behind it and yes I was quite pleasantly surprised to find that thoughtfulness in it when I first took it out of the bag. - The Buddipole is NOT small. With the 9' whips, you can deploy a full length dipole on 15 meters and up. And on 20 it's not that far off from full length and performs really well. - if you need REALLY big, a longwire inverted V is a simple matter to DIY with the "Versatee" and the mast by itself. You could even buy ready-made counterpoises from BP but I made mine out of 140' or so of speaker wire, bolts and hot melt glue using existing parts that came with my BP. Works great on 30M on down with the tuners in my rigs. I think it was an extra $10 to do the whole thing. So it just depends on what your needs are. I need something that can withstand throwing around, dropping, and repeated over and over deployment/takedown without something wearing out or snapping off or locking up when I'm 20 miles from home 11,000 feet in the mountains. I could have DIY'ed something that did the same thing but the cost would have come out the same in the end and I'd have likely made mistakes that BP has already made and solved. So I just bought it already made from BP. Don't get me wrong - I'm all for DIY; heck I've built 2 K2's already hi hi. But when something is a quality product, it's a quality product and that's just the truth about the BP, IMO. 73 LS W5QD Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote > The first rule of antennas is "put up the biggest thing you possibly > can, and if it stays up, it was too small." > > The Buddipole is SMALL. > > That's why I don't have one. > > The other reason, it seems to me that you're paying a premium for a > nicely packaged units. > > I have a 33 foot collapsible kite pole off of eBay, some heavy velcro > straps from a big box home improvement store, and some wire. > > The Buddipole may be a good buy, especially for those who don't want to > put a kit together, but I think the "best money you'll ever spend" is a > little bit over the top. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/New-KX3-up-running-tp7617152p7617179.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From k6dgw at foothill.net Wed May 4 19:06:47 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 16:06:47 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX3 up & running. In-Reply-To: <57297D99.2000606@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <1660159483.7638688.1462331113363.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1462336103238-7617155.post@n2.nabble.com> <57297D99.2000606@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <05e721af-265d-66d4-4c31-dda36f905d70@foothill.net> Nor have I. I had a full-up BP for several years and discovered that, despite pictures of various configurations ... arms out, up, down, in a Vee, one up/one down ... there really were only two configurations -- horizontal and vertical. In the horiz mode, it's an OCF short loaded dipole which never worked well for me. I had better results [mainly on SOTA summits] with a vertical ground plane configuration using two of the long telescoping whips as radials. It is very well made and durable. Tuning was a bear, essentially non-repeatable, so all the "recipe's" I came up with for each band didn't help much. The full kit weighed in at about a dozen pounds. Setup took a minimum of 30 min, usually more. I finally sold it and got an Alexloop for almost exactly what I got for the BP. 1.4 lbs, sets up in about 5 min, quite insensitive to ground and surrounding objects, and works very well. It's not really large enough on 40 and the BW is barely enough for a SSB signal, but it has proven to be very usable in field environments, especially on 20 and up. It's a bit "spendy" as the Oregonians say, you can build one much more cheaply, I'm just lazy. It too is very well made. Many of the SOTA folks use EFHW wires. Extremely light, lots of support options. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org On 5/3/2016 9:42 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > On Tue,5/3/2016 9:28 PM, lstavenhagen wrote: >> But even so, the Buddipole is one of the best ham radio investments >> you'll find you've made, > > I've never understood the logic of that -- lightweight, easy to support > antennas that are more effective are a lot cheaper. > > 73, Jim K9YC From donwilh at embarqmail.com Wed May 4 19:13:49 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 19:13:49 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX3 up & running. In-Reply-To: <1462399782134-7617179.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1660159483.7638688.1462331113363.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1462336103238-7617155.post@n2.nabble.com> <57297D99.2000606@audiosystemsgroup.com> <1462339346339-7617157.post@n2.nabble.com> <8df36ae8-5fcc-ef7f-227d-b69e0d3f72e2@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> <1462399782134-7617179.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: I am not going to be a proponent of the Buddipole system, nor am I going to be an adversary. In other words, the Buddipole system works well, and the standard system will tune to 15 through 10 meters without the added inductors. For bands below 15 meters, some inductance is added to lower the resonant frequency. Those inductors do reduce the efficiency, but it is proportional. The amount of inefficiency on 20 meters is small, but on 30, 40 and 80 meters, it increases substantially. For those doing SOTA and operation from places where there are no trees or other natural supports, the Buddipole is a real salvation, especially on 20 meters and above, but below that, inefficiencies creep in and it becomes a physically small antenna unless extra measures are added. One of those extra measures is to add wire to the tips of the extended buddipole whips. Clip on alligator clips or others can be easily used to extend the antenna and increase its lower frequency/ OK. please let me be clear -the Buddipole is a good system, but does have its limitations. For those of you who have home stations, a resonant dipole at 40 meters and below will outperform the Buddipole. For those who do not have that as a possibility, then the Buddipole is a good alternative. My reference is to use a 32 foot telescoping pole with the antenna deployed at the top for a 40 meter and below antenna - the center is at 32 feet and it is usually strung as an inverted Vee in the field. The lengths of each can vary from a resonant length to whatever the height and length can provide. Other than the the pole height, the rest is up to you. Put up a resonant dipole with the feedpoint at the center, or put up a vertical with counterpoise wires,it makes no difference, you have an antenna that can communicate. Cost is the price of the pole plus the cost of the antenna wire and feedline -nothing more, and you get to experiment with many different antenna configurations. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/4/2016 6:09 PM, lstavenhagen wrote: > Maybe it's more an in-the-eye-of-the-beholder sort of thing then lol. > My first rule of antennas is "put up what stays up, and stays up every > time". That of course, is my /P influence talking, so the rules are a little > different for me: > - The Buddipole may just look nicely packaged, but in actually it really is > as well built as it looks. Unlike the typical DIY project it really truly > doesn't break on you way out in the mountains in some way you never would > have thought of unless you've built it 50 times already before. It's already > got all that experience behind it and yes I was quite pleasantly surprised > to find that thoughtfulness in it when I first took it out of the bag. > - The Buddipole is NOT small. With the 9' whips, you can deploy a full > length dipole on 15 meters and up. And on 20 it's not that far off from full > length and performs really well. > - if you need REALLY big, a longwire inverted V is a simple matter to DIY > with the "Versatee" and the mast by itself. You could even buy ready-made > counterpoises from BP but I made mine out of 140' or so of speaker wire, > bolts and hot melt glue using existing parts that came with my BP. Works > great on 30M on down with the tuners in my rigs. I think it was an extra $10 > to do the whole thing. > > So it just depends on what your needs are. I need something that can > withstand throwing around, dropping, and repeated over and over > deployment/takedown without something wearing out or snapping off or locking > up when I'm 20 miles from home 11,000 feet in the mountains. I could have > DIY'ed something that did the same thing but the cost would have come out > the same in the end and I'd have likely made mistakes that BP has already > made and solved. So I just bought it already made from BP. > > Don't get me wrong - I'm all for DIY; heck I've built 2 K2's already hi hi. > But when something is a quality product, it's a quality product and that's > just the truth about the BP, IMO. > > 73 > LS > W5QD > > > Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote >> The first rule of antennas is "put up the biggest thing you possibly >> can, and if it stays up, it was too small." >> >> The Buddipole is SMALL. >> >> That's why I don't have one. >> >> The other reason, it seems to me that you're paying a premium for a >> nicely packaged units. >> >> I have a 33 foot collapsible kite pole off of eBay, some heavy velcro >> straps from a big box home improvement store, and some wire. >> >> The Buddipole may be a good buy, especially for those who don't want to >> put a kit together, but I think the "best money you'll ever spend" is a >> little bit over the top. > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/New-KX3-up-running-tp7617152p7617179.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com > From m0lep at hewett.org Thu May 5 03:43:11 2016 From: m0lep at hewett.org (Rick M0LEP) Date: Thu, 05 May 2016 07:43:11 -0000 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX3 up & running. References: <1660159483.7638688.1462331113363.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1462336103238-7617155.post@n2.nabble.com> <57297D99.2000606@audiosystemsgroup.com> <1462339346339-7617157.post@n2.nabble.com> <8df36ae8-5fcc-ef7f-227d-b69e0d3f72e2@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> <1462399782134-7617179.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <2d86.572af98f.9f2c3.m0lep@hewett.org> On Wed 04 May Don Wilhelm wrote: > For those doing SOTA and operation from places where there are no > trees or other natural supports I prefer to carry a light-weight telescopic pole and a linked dipole, and not just for the better efficiency it offers; it also weights quite a bit less, even including the telescopic pole, pegs, guy lines, etc.. If space is a bit limited then the pole can always be used to support a random wire (or whatever) and the KX3's ATU gets to do a bit of work. -- 73, Rick, M0LEP (KX3 #3281) From lstavenhagen at hotmail.com Thu May 5 09:44:24 2016 From: lstavenhagen at hotmail.com (lstavenhagen) Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 06:44:24 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K2 LCD issue In-Reply-To: <1462454535264-7617184.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1462454535264-7617184.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1462455864072-7617185.post@n2.nabble.com> It could be a bad solder joint. Because of the way the LCD is mounted, the display pins practically "float" a bit above the pads on the board and you have to kind of "bridge" them when soldering by building up a kind of blob of solder. If the pin(s) are too high or the little solder "ant hill" doesn't quite reach the pin, you could have an intermittent there.. I've built 2 K2's and on each one I've caught an insufficient solder joint on the LCD pins somewhere during inspection and had to reflow solder on it. So it's possible that could be what's going on. So you might try removing the front panel (a pain but doable) and inspecting the solder joints? 73, LS W5QD K8DJW-Dave wrote > This seems kind of silly perhaps, but the first segment - leftmost - in my > LCD only seems to illuminate about 10% of the time. Is this just an issue > of tightening something up or is that part of the display going bad? Not a > huge issue, but it would be nice to fix it. > > Thanks and 73 > > Dave -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-LCD-issue-tp7617184p7617185.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From donwilh at embarqmail.com Thu May 5 10:15:17 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 10:15:17 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 LCD issue In-Reply-To: <1462455864072-7617185.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1462454535264-7617184.post@n2.nabble.com> <1462455864072-7617185.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <4699a17d-4a6f-211e-8fbc-3c27f25f293f@embarqmail.com> "inspecting the solder joints" --- what to look for --- What you should look for is on the component side of the board. On a proper solder connection for boards with thru-plated holes, you should see some solder on the component lead that has flowed through the hole. If there was not enough heat applied or the soldering dwell time was too short, the solder will not wick through the hole and even though the solder side looks to be OK, the component side will tell you if the solder connection is complete. That is important for those components whose leads barely go through the board. It is easy to get solder over the entire solder pad, and still have no good solder connection to the component lead. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/5/2016 9:44 AM, lstavenhagen wrote: > So you might try removing the front panel (a pain but doable) and inspecting > the solder joints? > > 73, > LS > W5QD > > > K8DJW-Dave wrote >> This seems kind of silly perhaps, but the first segment - leftmost - in my >> LCD only seems to illuminate about 10% of the time. Is this just an issue >> of tightening something up or is that part of the display going bad? Not a >> huge issue, but it would be nice to fix it. >> >> Thanks and 73 >> >> Dave > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-LCD-issue-tp7617184p7617185.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com > From pauls at elecraft.com Thu May 5 10:24:29 2016 From: pauls at elecraft.com (Paul Saffren N6HZ) Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 07:24:29 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] PX3: Apparent "bug" fw 1.42 In-Reply-To: <6987D7D2-5680-4539-B5D8-EFD21EA9683A@tx.rr.com> References: <6987D7D2-5680-4539-B5D8-EFD21EA9683A@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <1462458269856-7617188.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi Grant, Glad you are enjoying your PX3. The PX3's display driver hardware limits the maximum size of the waterfall window. The text display window, when active, uses part of the waterfall window. In the next revision of PX3 firmware you'll see that I added support to keep track of the waterfall heights with regards to the different modes. This feature and others including alternate keys for scratchpad, will be available in the next beta release. Very 73, Paul -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-Apparent-bug-fw-1-42-tp7617139p7617188.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From n6kr at elecraft.com Thu May 5 11:50:08 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 08:50:08 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 / KXBC3 NiMH Battery Charger and Real-Time Clock In-Reply-To: <1462335326556-7617153.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1462335326556-7617153.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <9B082604-C1A7-4445-B646-2738F5E4FDB4@elecraft.com> wickedbeernut wrote: > I have a dumb question ... why doesn't the KX3 support the current month, day > and year in conjunction with the KXBC3? Is this a limitation of the KX3 > firmware or the KXBC3 real-time clock? I've never heard of a real-time > clock which didn't support the current month, day and year. Most support > leap year compensation and are valid through at least 2100. > > Joe > KF5WBO Hi Joe, The KXBC3 uses a nano-power PIC MCU running our own firmware, not a real-time-clock IC. This MCU provides both the clock and charge-controller functions. It would be possible to add support for date readout in the future. This is the first such request, but it's now on the wish-list. 73, Wayne N6KR From nq5t at tx.rr.com Thu May 5 13:14:44 2016 From: nq5t at tx.rr.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 12:14:44 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3: Apparent "bug" fw 1.42 In-Reply-To: <1462458269856-7617188.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <6987D7D2-5680-4539-B5D8-EFD21EA9683A@tx.rr.com> <1462458269856-7617188.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <48656B1C-37EE-409E-B10D-7645F4DFE901@tx.rr.com> That was quick :) And yes, I AM enjoying the PX3. Many thanks, Paul! Grant NQ5T > On May 5, 2016, at 9:24 AM, Paul Saffren N6HZ wrote: > > Hi Grant, > > Glad you are enjoying your PX3. The PX3's display driver hardware limits > the maximum size of the waterfall window. The text display window, when > active, uses part of the waterfall window. In the next revision of PX3 > firmware you'll see that I added support to keep track of the waterfall > heights with regards to the different modes. This feature and others > including alternate keys for scratchpad, will be available in the next beta > release. > > Very 73, > > Paul > > > > > > -- > From dlrwild1 at verizon.net Thu May 5 13:52:22 2016 From: dlrwild1 at verizon.net (dlrwild1 at verizon.net) Date: Thu, 05 May 2016 13:52:22 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: WANTED: K3S/100 with options Message-ID: From: dlrwild1 at verizon.net Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 1:51 PM To: elecraft reflector Subject: Fw: WANTED: K3S/100 with options From: dlrwild1 at verizon.net Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 1:40 PM To: elecraft reflector Subject: Fw: WANTED: K3S/100 with options From: dlrwild1 at verizon.net Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 2:13 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: WANTED: K3S/100 with options WANTED: Mint, as new, K3S/100-F (factory built) with the following options: KAT3A, KFL3A-250Hz 8-pole, KFL3A-400Hz 8-pole or KFL3A-500 hz 5-pole, KFL3A-2.8K 8-pole or 2.7 5 pole. May condiser other options also, but not necessary. State price and serial number, method of payment. Rose?s dust cover a plus for sale. Contact Bob, K3SRO at dlrwild1 at verizon.net From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Thu May 5 14:07:16 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes) Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 11:07:16 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: WANTED: K3S/100 with options In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <572B8BD4.4000706@triconet.org> Stating the obvious: Have you considered buying one from Elecraft? On 5/5/2016 10:52 AM, dlrwild1 at verizon.net wrote: > > From: dlrwild1 at verizon.net > Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 1:51 PM > To: elecraft reflector > Subject: Fw: WANTED: K3S/100 with options > > > WANTED: Mint, as new, K3S/100-F (factory built) with the following options: KAT3A, KFL3A-250Hz 8-pole, KFL3A-400Hz 8-pole or KFL3A-500 hz 5-pole, KFL3A-2.8K 8-pole or 2.7 5 pole. May condiser other options also, but not necessary. State price and serial number, method of payment. Rose?s dust cover a plus for sale. Contact Bob, K3SRO at dlrwild1 at verizon.net > > From ns9i2016 at Bayland.net Thu May 5 14:23:50 2016 From: ns9i2016 at Bayland.net ('DGB') Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 13:23:50 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] FS (2) RemoteRig RC-1216H In-Reply-To: <572B8BD4.4000706@triconet.org> References: <572B8BD4.4000706@triconet.org> Message-ID: <99b8d824-991f-191e-0f0f-8977f669c9ba@Bayland.net> I have two RemoteRig RC-1216H units that are surplus to my needs. These are Web based remote controls for SteppIR, ACOM-2000A, Expert 1K-FA,Elecraft KPA500 and Rotators and more. Also have the .PDF user manual. Asking $225 each or $425 for both shipped CONUS. Will take PayPal, postal money order, or a personal check with the wait for it to clear the bank. Tnx 73 Dwight NS9I From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Thu May 5 17:12:23 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (wickedbeernut) Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 14:12:23 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 / KXBC3 NiMH Battery Charger and Real-Time Clock In-Reply-To: <9B082604-C1A7-4445-B646-2738F5E4FDB4@elecraft.com> References: <1462335326556-7617153.post@n2.nabble.com> <9B082604-C1A7-4445-B646-2738F5E4FDB4@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <1462482743258-7617196.post@n2.nabble.com> wayne burdick wrote > Hi Joe, > > The KXBC3 uses a nano-power PIC MCU running our own firmware, not a > real-time-clock IC. This MCU provides both the clock and charge-controller > functions. > > It would be possible to add support for date readout in the future. This > is the first such request, but it's now on the wish-list. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR Thank you for the reply, Wayne. And thank you for supporting the broader Elecraft community. Let's start by adding basic logging support to the PX3 wish-list. I'm simply trying to understand where the PX3 will get the date and time from. The KX3 / KXBC3 is one option. I did receive one report (privately) suggesting the KXBC3 loses up to three hours per month. I haven't verified the accuracy of the KXBC3 myself. Worst case, we periodically reset the date / time. Of course, not everyone has a KXBC3. I'm assuming PX3 logging support will require a new memory or microSD (preferred) "option board" connected via the existing PX3 40-pin SPI and I2C expansion interface. It may make more sense to add a real-time clock IC with a lithium coin cell battery back-up to the new PX3 option board, rather than relying on the KX3 / KXBC3 for the date and time. You gave us PX3 keyboard and message / macro support for free ... a $150 value. Do yourself a favor ... build a PX3 microSD / real-time clock option board for peanuts and sell it for $79.95. Cha-ching. We'll install it ourselves. Sell a new PX3 left side panel with an added microSD slot for $26.39. Cha-ching, cha-ching. And, keep pace with that new Japanese SDR in the area of microSD / logging. Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-KXBC3-NiMH-Battery-Charger-and-Real-Time-Clock-tp7617153p7617196.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From jrhallas at optonline.net Thu May 5 18:07:57 2016 From: jrhallas at optonline.net (Joel Hallas) Date: Thu, 05 May 2016 18:07:57 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3-KPA500 Transmit Delay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002801d1a71a$94bd5780$be380680$@net> I just got my new KPA500 on the air today -- went together and works beautifully, BTW. Since the amplifier switches virtually instantaneously, I wonder why the K3 can't be set to have a QSK TD less than the "Normal" 8 ms, which I needed for my previous tube amp? Or am I missing something in the MENU settings? Regards, Joel Hallas, W1ZR Westport, CT From donwilh at embarqmail.com Thu May 5 18:21:57 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 18:21:57 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3-KPA500 Transmit Delay In-Reply-To: <002801d1a71a$94bd5780$be380680$@net> References: <002801d1a71a$94bd5780$be380680$@net> Message-ID: <8bc393a7-9fe4-56f6-d747-ca62a33e617f@embarqmail.com> Joel, It can be set to a shorter time if CW QRQ is set to ON. See the K3 manual menu setting list on page 61 - TX DLY entry. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/5/2016 6:07 PM, Joel Hallas wrote: > I just got my new KPA500 on the air today -- went together and works > beautifully, BTW. Since the amplifier switches virtually instantaneously, I > wonder why the K3 can't be set to have a QSK TD less than the "Normal" 8 ms, > which I needed for my previous tube amp? Or am I missing something in the > MENU settings? > > From dlrwild1 at verizon.net Thu May 5 21:51:32 2016 From: dlrwild1 at verizon.net (dlrwild1 at verizon.net) Date: Thu, 05 May 2016 21:51:32 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] WANTED: Mint K3S with options Message-ID: <45A09C0F28A94FB39264927709F55A36@hamroomPpc> I am looking for a mint, as new, K3S with ATU KAT3, 2700 Hz or 2800 hz SSB filters, 2100 Hz 8-pole SSB filter, 400 Hz 8-pole CW filter, 250 Hz 8-pole CW filter. Other options may be considered. Must have original manual, factory carton and packing materials, DC power cable. Contact Bob, K3SRO at dlrwild1 at verizon.net with photos, price and details. From donwilh at embarqmail.com Thu May 5 21:57:21 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 21:57:21 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] WANTED: Mint K3S with options In-Reply-To: <45A09C0F28A94FB39264927709F55A36@hamroomPpc> References: <45A09C0F28A94FB39264927709F55A36@hamroomPpc> Message-ID: <2ebd4553-10a8-9393-9a27-f4c2c27a07de@embarqmail.com> Elecraft has what you want along with a 1 year warranty. The warranty does not extend to those who have purchased the K3S used. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/5/2016 9:51 PM, dlrwild1 at verizon.net wrote: > I am looking for a mint, as new, K3S with ATU KAT3, 2700 Hz or 2800 hz SSB filters, 2100 Hz 8-pole SSB filter, 400 Hz 8-pole CW filter, 250 Hz 8-pole CW filter. Other options may be considered. Must have original manual, factory carton and packing materials, DC power cable. Contact Bob, K3SRO at dlrwild1 at verizon.net with photos, price and details. > From ptaa at ieee.org Fri May 6 06:06:39 2016 From: ptaa at ieee.org (LA7NO) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 03:06:39 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 internal battery problems Message-ID: <1462529199003-7617201.post@n2.nabble.com> KX3 (ser. no. 08146) works OK on external power, but recently I am experiencing problem using it on internal rechargeable cells. The AA cells are relatively new Varta Professional No. 5706, 2700 mAh NiMH. They have been charged with a techno-line BC-1000. Measured capacity via an automatic discharge/recharge cycle is according to spec. I have attached a 50 Ohm dummy-load to the KX3. When turned on, it indicates BT 9,7V. BAT MIN is set to 8,2V. When I press ATU TUNE, it turn itself off immediately. With TUN PWR set to 0,1W it works OK when pressing TUNE, but BT drops to 7,6V. If TUN PWR is set to 1W, it switches off when TUNE is pressed. Strange that the voltage drops so much, even if the charger indicated normal cell capacity when automatically discharging them. Any ideas? Per-Tore / LA7NO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-internal-battery-problems-tp7617201.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From plambert at qa.com.au Fri May 6 06:31:13 2016 From: plambert at qa.com.au (Peter Lambert) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 20:31:13 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 internal battery problems In-Reply-To: <1462529199003-7617201.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1462529199003-7617201.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <00c501d1a782$6b7d0ec0$42772c40$@qa.com.au> I can offer a little info : New charged cells in my KX-3 show about 10.4V when I turn the unit on (after it's been laying around for weeks). A new fully charged pack shows about 0.7 ohm internal resistance (by the voltage drop and current when transmitting). Ie that's over the 8 cells. Don't fully discharge NiMH batteries. Cycling them as you'd do with the old nickel cadmium cells rapidly raises the internal impedance of the NiMH batteries. You'll find them useless long before they get anywhere near the published number of cycles because of that rise in internal impedance. Just top them up after use and that's it. I've gone through a couple of battery changes in the KX-3. That internal impedance is going to be way more important to you than the capacity of the pack. On a typical SOTA outing I'd be lucky to use more than about 20% of the capacity (I use the LSD kind at about 2.5Ahr). The packs still have close to their full capacity long after the internal impedance rules them out for use in the KX-3. Last pack probably only got cycled about 10 times before the impedance was too high to get the 5W out. I concluded from good old google the cause was deep discharge. After just 10 cycles I considered them relatively "new" but they'd not hold up under transmit load (guestimate of around 1.5 ohms for the pack). They worked fine for lower current use and still operated the KX-3 in receive for the same duration (ie capacity had not diminished). The "new" pack in the unit will never get cycled just topped up. 73's Peter VK4JD -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of LA7NO Sent: Friday, 6 May 2016 8:07 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 internal battery problems KX3 (ser. no. 08146) works OK on external power, but recently I am experiencing problem using it on internal rechargeable cells. The AA cells are relatively new Varta Professional No. 5706, 2700 mAh NiMH. They have been charged with a techno-line BC-1000. Measured capacity via an automatic discharge/recharge cycle is according to spec. I have attached a 50 Ohm dummy-load to the KX3. When turned on, it indicates BT 9,7V. BAT MIN is set to 8,2V. When I press ATU TUNE, it turn itself off immediately. With TUN PWR set to 0,1W it works OK when pressing TUNE, but BT drops to 7,6V. If TUN PWR is set to 1W, it switches off when TUNE is pressed. Strange that the voltage drops so much, even if the charger indicated normal cell capacity when automatically discharging them. Any ideas? Per-Tore / LA7NO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-internal-battery-problems-tp7617201 .html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to plambert at qa.com.au From wd8kni at gmail.com Fri May 6 09:17:49 2016 From: wd8kni at gmail.com (Fred Moore) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 09:17:49 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 internal battery problems In-Reply-To: <1462529199003-7617201.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1462529199003-7617201.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <68419d0f-e69a-0167-70e9-c101bf507ffc@gmail.com> I think you will find that one of the cells used in this series arrangement will have a high internal resistance. You also mentioned a brand that I have seen the worst performance from (my personal experience). I have been using one of the Blue ESR meters (80 bucks) for about 4 years to look at batteries that don't perform well, high resistance in a cell has always been the issue.. Before all the engineers jump on and say there is a difference between resistance and impedance and I don't understand, and this is not the correct way to read internal resistance. I can say that I also understand how to load a battery and at the same time and take a resistance reading of the cell. But who has the time.. I have no intent of testing in a laboratory, when the shop is sufficient. First off make sure you don't use any of the really expensive ESR meters that measure the voltage first and if they see any the go into a capacitor discharge cycle.. that would not be good. I simply hook the battery across the meter and read the resistance.. While this is not a exact laboratory measurement you can tell a lot from the reading.. look at each cell in the string, if one is higher just get rid if it you will see an improvement of string capacity. As an example not long ago I had a battery pack that could last about 5 minutes after it was charged.. reading the whole pack's resistance it showed about 9 ohms of resistance on a 14 volt pack. opening the pack I found two of the cells bad.. one measured 2.5 ohms the other was 3.1, that is 4.5 ohms just from two of the batteries.. the rest were around .85 ohms.. I have also tested thousand of SLA batteries this way, and can tell you instantly if the battery will deliver the rated capacity.. from experience if a cell is more than .8 or .9 I don't use it.. Regards.. Fred I had to post this message two time to get it to the list.. I can honestly say this is the first time since using the internet that my post was rejected for have a digital signature, so will have to remember to turn it off.. The message's content type was not explicitly allowed On 5/6/16 6:06 AM, LA7NO wrote: > KX3 (ser. no. 08146) works OK on external power, but recently I am > experiencing problem using it on internal rechargeable cells. > > The AA cells are relatively new Varta Professional No. 5706, 2700 mAh NiMH. > They have been charged with a techno-line BC-1000. Measured capacity via an > automatic discharge/recharge cycle is according to spec. > > I have attached a 50 Ohm dummy-load to the KX3. When turned on, it indicates > BT 9,7V. BAT MIN is set to 8,2V. > When I press ATU TUNE, it turn itself off immediately. > With TUN PWR set to 0,1W it works OK when pressing TUNE, but BT drops to > 7,6V. > If TUN PWR is set to 1W, it switches off when TUNE is pressed. > > Strange that the voltage drops so much, even if the charger indicated normal > cell capacity when automatically discharging them. > > Any ideas? > > Per-Tore / LA7NO > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-internal-battery-problems-tp7617201.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wd8kni at gmail.com -- Fred Moore Ham: WD8KNI Cell 321-217-8699 email: fred at fmeco.com From bob at hogbytes.com Fri May 6 09:29:42 2016 From: bob at hogbytes.com (Bob N3MNT) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 06:29:42 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 internal battery problems In-Reply-To: <1462529199003-7617201.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1462529199003-7617201.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1462541382188-7617204.post@n2.nabble.com> Also using LSD (Eneloop standard) cells and non-transmit voltage reads 10.4V even after several months of no use. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-internal-battery-problems-tp7617201p7617204.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From bob at hogbytes.com Fri May 6 09:33:16 2016 From: bob at hogbytes.com (Bob N3MNT) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 06:33:16 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] WANTED: Mint K3S with options In-Reply-To: <45A09C0F28A94FB39264927709F55A36@hamroomPpc> References: <45A09C0F28A94FB39264927709F55A36@hamroomPpc> Message-ID: <1462541596638-7617205.post@n2.nabble.com> Why the Duplicate post -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/WANTED-Mint-K3S-with-options-tp7617199p7617205.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From w4sc at windstream.net Fri May 6 09:50:57 2016 From: w4sc at windstream.net (w4sc at windstream.net) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 8:50:57 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity RX Message-ID: <20160506095057.E763S.26122.root@pamxwww10-z01> Retired now, so more time to "play radio." Questions about Filter selection / Shift / Low-Hi Cut / Width control when K3 is in diversity mode. Does the KRX3 track these main RX settings when diversity is enabled? Can this "tracking" be disabled if it is enabled by default? Look in archives and googled for this answer, but no joy on finding answer! 73 de Ben W4SC From hullspeed21 at gmail.com Fri May 6 09:56:48 2016 From: hullspeed21 at gmail.com (Warren Merkel) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 09:56:48 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New Elecraft Product for Dayton? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3edeaddd-7d93-6790-0bc4-72f361e9d170@gmail.com> I ran across this in an undisclosed location. Could this be the next Elecraft box radio for Dayton? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24789865/Elecraft2016DaytonSecretProject.jpg Warren, KD4Z From frantz at pwpconsult.com Fri May 6 10:19:16 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 07:19:16 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 internal battery problems In-Reply-To: <1462529199003-7617201.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Another thing to check is corrosion resistance at the battery contacts. I find this problem frequently with flash LED head-mounted lights. When I have a problem like this, I like to measure the cell voltages under load. You may be able to run the KX3 into a dummy load at the 0,1W tune setting and measure each cell. If one cell shows significantly lower voltage, it is the problem. Running this test again several days after the battery was last charged will show cells which have high internal self-discharge. 73 Bill AE6JV On 5/6/16 at 3:06 AM, ptaa at ieee.org (LA7NO) wrote: >KX3 (ser. no. 08146) works OK on external power, but recently I am >experiencing problem using it on internal rechargeable cells. > >The AA cells are relatively new Varta Professional No. 5706, 2700 mAh NiMH. >They have been charged with a techno-line BC-1000. Measured capacity via an >automatic discharge/recharge cycle is according to spec. > >I have attached a 50 Ohm dummy-load to the KX3. When turned on, it indicates >BT 9,7V. BAT MIN is set to 8,2V. >When I press ATU TUNE, it turn itself off immediately. >With TUN PWR set to 0,1W it works OK when pressing TUNE, but BT drops to >7,6V. >If TUN PWR is set to 1W, it switches off when TUNE is pressed. > >Strange that the voltage drops so much, even if the charger indicated normal >cell capacity when automatically discharging them. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Since the IBM Selectric, keyboards have gotten 408-356-8506 | steadily worse. Now we have touchscreen keyboards. www.pwpconsult.com | Can we make something even worse? From frantz at pwpconsult.com Fri May 6 10:29:47 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 07:29:47 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Ultrabeam, a SteppIR alternative Message-ID: A German ham informed me about the Ultrabeam antenna and provided the URL: He thinks their controller has better lightning protection than the SteppIR controller. He has had a 2 element version for about 5 years with no major problems. It has survived several storms with high winds and the Bavarian winters. 73 Bill AE6JV ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Truth and love must prevail | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | over lies and hate. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | - Vaclav Havel | Los Gatos, CA 95032 From kengkopp at gmail.com Fri May 6 11:06:04 2016 From: kengkopp at gmail.com (Ken G Kopp) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 09:06:04 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: W0UN is SK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Posting here because so many contesters and DX'ers are Elecraft owners who knew John ... Long time friend and co-worker John Brosnahan, W0UN succumbed to heart-related issues on May 4th. 73 and BV my friend. Ken Kopp - K0PP From k9ma at sdellington.us Fri May 6 11:36:18 2016 From: k9ma at sdellington.us (Scott Ellington) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 10:36:18 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX-1 Glitch Message-ID: <3db0877c-b5d8-5bec-a37b-b309487ee2c4@sdellington.us> Operating the CWT yesterday for the first time with the KX-1, I found a glitch: When tuning around the band, the frequency sometimes just stops changing. Usually (always?) when I'm tuning downward, it's as if it hits a wall: I can tune back upwards, but when I tune downward it just stops at the same frequency. It's not just the display, as I can hear that the frequency is not changing. If I change bands and come back to the same frequency, it works normally for a while. It happens several times in an hour of operating, so it's not easy to reproduce. It's almost certainly not a bad encoder. If it's a firmware bug, as I suspect, others should observe the same problem. Firmware is 1.02. Has anyone else seen this? 73, Scott K9MA -- Scott Ellington K9MA Madison, Wisconsin, USA k9ma at sdellington.us From rodenkirch_llc at msn.com Fri May 6 11:38:42 2016 From: rodenkirch_llc at msn.com (Jim Rodenkirch) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 08:38:42 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] OT: W0UN is SK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1462549122105-7617212.post@n2.nabble.com> Yup - every occasion of a visit to my Oncologist reminds of how fragile we are......sorry to hear of a ham's passing.... -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/OT-W0UN-is-SK-tp7617210p7617212.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From r.tristani at gmail.com Fri May 6 11:50:02 2016 From: r.tristani at gmail.com (Ramon Tristani) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 11:50:02 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 VSWR Meter Calibration Message-ID: <5DF2F9AC-049B-49DB-BCA1-3BFCE6ACCE81@gmail.com> The VSWR indication in my K3 seems to be off considerably when connected to a 50 ohm dummy load. An external VSWR meter indicates 1:1 while the K3 most of the time indicates readings varying up to 2:1 at times. I am using the same short coax stub to connect the instruments one at a time to eliminate other possibilities. Is there a way to ?calibrate? the VSWR indicator in the K3? My K3 is serial number 4416. The Auto Tuner in it works fine and reduces the indication to 1:1 as it is supposed to but when bypassing it the VSWR indication will always be off. Any suggestions? Ram?n E. Tristani Sr. ramon.tristani at icloud.com https://www.flickr.com/photos/nq9v/ www.tristaniministries.org www.tristaniphotography.com From pa3a at xs4all.nl Fri May 6 11:50:19 2016 From: pa3a at xs4all.nl (Arie Kleingeld PA3A) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 17:50:19 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity RX In-Reply-To: <20160506095057.E763S.26122.root@pamxwww10-z01> References: <20160506095057.E763S.26122.root@pamxwww10-z01> Message-ID: <0219213c-0b31-959d-8331-ea61488d47e2@xs4all.nl> Ben, Full tracking (freq, mode, filter etc) is enabled with diversity on. Frequency tracking alone and leave the rest open, that is in the menu: config: VFO LINK I use them both under different circumstances, but that is not what you are asking. 73 Arie PA3A Op 6-5-2016 om 15:50 schreef w4sc at windstream.net: > Retired now, so more time to "play radio." > > Questions about Filter selection / Shift / Low-Hi Cut / Width control when K3 is in diversity mode. > > Does the KRX3 track these main RX settings when diversity is enabled? > > Can this "tracking" be disabled if it is enabled by default? > > Look in archives and googled for this answer, but no joy on finding answer! > > 73 de Ben W4SC > From pa3a at xs4all.nl Fri May 6 11:56:57 2016 From: pa3a at xs4all.nl (Arie Kleingeld PA3A) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 17:56:57 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] test Message-ID: <6e25b41f-f758-e2e2-7fe0-3159e252db27@xs4all.nl> Sorry. Arie PA3A From donwilh at embarqmail.com Fri May 6 12:06:26 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 12:06:26 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX-1 Glitch In-Reply-To: <3db0877c-b5d8-5bec-a37b-b309487ee2c4@sdellington.us> References: <3db0877c-b5d8-5bec-a37b-b309487ee2c4@sdellington.us> Message-ID: Scott, I suspect it is the encoder and not the firmware. Every instance of that behavior I have seen is cured by replacing the encoder (and I have repaired a lot of KX1s. If you do not have good desoldering tools, cut the pins of the encoder close to the body and then you can 'rock' the 2 securing tabs out. Remove the remaining pins one at a time. Clean up with solder wick and if there is solder remaining in the holes, heat the solder pad and push it out with a wooden toothpick or stainless steel needle. BTW - the model designation on Elecraft products does not have a dash in it. it is "KX1", not "KX-1". 73, Don W3FPR On 5/6/2016 11:36 AM, Scott Ellington wrote: > Operating the CWT yesterday for the first time with the KX-1, I found > a glitch: When tuning around the band, the frequency sometimes just > stops changing. Usually (always?) when I'm tuning downward, it's as > if it hits a wall: I can tune back upwards, but when I tune downward > it just stops at the same frequency. It's not just the display, as I > can hear that the frequency is not changing. If I change bands and > come back to the same frequency, it works normally for a while. It > happens several times in an hour of operating, so it's not easy to > reproduce. It's almost certainly not a bad encoder. > > If it's a firmware bug, as I suspect, others should observe the same > problem. Firmware is 1.02. > > Has anyone else seen this? > > 73, > > Scott K9MA > From w0fm at swbell.net Fri May 6 12:49:33 2016 From: w0fm at swbell.net (Terry Schieler) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 11:49:33 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] New Elecraft Product for Dayton? In-Reply-To: <3edeaddd-7d93-6790-0bc4-72f361e9d170@gmail.com> References: <3edeaddd-7d93-6790-0bc4-72f361e9d170@gmail.com> Message-ID: <007301d1a7b7$455d6f20$d0184d60$@swbell.net> Probably all menu-driven because there is no excuse not to have knobs on a rig THAT big. Terry, W0FM -----Original Message----- From: Warren Merkel [mailto:hullspeed21 at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 8:57 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] New Elecraft Product for Dayton? I ran across this in an undisclosed location. Could this be the next Elecraft box radio for Dayton? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24789865/Elecraft2016DaytonSecretProject .jpg Warren, KD4Z From wrcooke at yahoo.com Fri May 6 12:54:32 2016 From: wrcooke at yahoo.com (WILLIS COOKE) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 16:54:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Ultrabeam, a SteppIR alternative In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <231403190.452481.1462553672417.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> SteppIR has a new controller with improved lightning protection now.?Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, From: Bill Frantz To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:29 AM Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Ultrabeam, a SteppIR alternative A German ham informed me about the Ultrabeam antenna and provided the URL: ? He thinks their controller has better lightning protection than the SteppIR controller. He has had a 2 element version for about 5 years with no major problems. It has survived several storms with high winds and the Bavarian winters. 73 Bill AE6JV ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz? ? ? ? | Truth and love must prevail? | Periwinkle (408)356-8506? ? ? | over lies and hate.? ? ? ? ? | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com |? ? ? ? ? ? ? - Vaclav Havel | Los Gatos, CA 95032 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wrcooke at yahoo.com From dg5bka at web.de Fri May 6 14:08:07 2016 From: dg5bka at web.de (Christian) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 20:08:07 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] test In-Reply-To: <6e25b41f-f758-e2e2-7fe0-3159e252db27@xs4all.nl> References: <6e25b41f-f758-e2e2-7fe0-3159e252db27@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <87E099E6-4BBE-4CA5-ACCC-901C59456EAD@web.de> Hello, you're 5'n'9 here in JO30RH with a strong signal! Dag Christian Von meinem iPhone gesendet > Am 06.05.2016 um 17:56 schrieb Arie Kleingeld PA3A : > > Sorry. > > Arie PA3A > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dg5bka at web.de From donwilh at embarqmail.com Fri May 6 14:26:43 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 14:26:43 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 VSWR Meter Calibration In-Reply-To: <5DF2F9AC-049B-49DB-BCA1-3BFCE6ACCE81@gmail.com> References: <5DF2F9AC-049B-49DB-BCA1-3BFCE6ACCE81@gmail.com> Message-ID: <53b57a8e-ef34-e8ec-f89e-400cf7f16cd9@embarqmail.com> Ramon, There is a calibration procedure in the manual to calibrate the wattmeter for forward power, but not for SWR. I suggest you contact K3support for further assistance. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/6/2016 11:50 AM, Ramon Tristani wrote: > The VSWR indication in my K3 seems to be off considerably when connected to a 50 ohm dummy load. An external VSWR meter indicates 1:1 while the K3 most of the time indicates readings varying up to 2:1 at times. I am using the same short coax stub to connect the instruments one at a time to eliminate other possibilities. Is there a way to ?calibrate? the VSWR indicator in the K3? My K3 is serial number 4416. The Auto Tuner in it works fine and reduces the indication to 1:1 as it is supposed to but when bypassing it the VSWR indication will always be off. Any suggestions? > From crustacean at brig-elec.com Fri May 6 14:42:08 2016 From: crustacean at brig-elec.com (John Pitz) Date: Fri, 06 May 2016 14:42:08 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New Elecraft Product for Dayton? In-Reply-To: <3edeaddd-7d93-6790-0bc4-72f361e9d170@gmail.com> References: <3edeaddd-7d93-6790-0bc4-72f361e9d170@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1462560128.3275.3.camel@arabica> new KXPAFULLLEGALLIMIT amp? On Fri, 2016-05-06 at 09:56 -0400, Warren Merkel wrote: > I ran across this in an undisclosed location. Could this be the next > Elecraft box radio for Dayton? > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24789865/Elecraft2016DaytonSecretProject.jpg > > Warren, KD4Z > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to crustacean at brig-elec.com > From eric at elecraft.com Fri May 6 15:06:45 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 12:06:45 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 VSWR Meter Calibration In-Reply-To: <53b57a8e-ef34-e8ec-f89e-400cf7f16cd9@embarqmail.com> References: <5DF2F9AC-049B-49DB-BCA1-3BFCE6ACCE81@gmail.com> <53b57a8e-ef34-e8ec-f89e-400cf7f16cd9@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: Is the K3 ATU in bypass? Eric /elecraft.com/ On 5/6/2016 11:26 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Ramon, > > There is a calibration procedure in the manual to calibrate the wattmeter for > forward power, but not for SWR. > I suggest you contact K3support for further assistance. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 5/6/2016 11:50 AM, Ramon Tristani wrote: >> The VSWR indication in my K3 seems to be off considerably when connected to a >> 50 ohm dummy load. An external VSWR meter indicates 1:1 while the K3 most of >> the time indicates readings varying up to 2:1 at times. I am using the same >> short coax stub to connect the instruments one at a time to eliminate other >> possibilities. Is there a way to ?calibrate? the VSWR indicator in the K3? My >> K3 is serial number 4416. The Auto Tuner in it works fine and reduces the >> indication to 1:1 as it is supposed to but when bypassing it the VSWR >> indication will always be off. Any suggestions? >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com From joe at k2uf.com Fri May 6 15:25:46 2016 From: joe at k2uf.com (Joe K2UF) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 15:25:46 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New Elecraft Product for Dayton? In-Reply-To: <1462560128.3275.3.camel@arabica> Message-ID: This is the ultimate K-line shack. Windows will be an optional add on. I would put one at the base of my tower but I think the 'boss' might require that I live in it. ;o() 73 Joe K2UF -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Pitz Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 2:42 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft Product for Dayton? new KXPAFULLLEGALLIMIT amp? On Fri, 2016-05-06 at 09:56 -0400, Warren Merkel wrote: > I ran across this in an undisclosed location. Could this be the next > Elecraft box radio for Dayton? > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24789865/Elecraft2016DaytonSecretP > roject.jpg > > Warren, KD4Z > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > crustacean at brig-elec.com > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to joe at k2uf.com From eric.csuf at gmail.com Fri May 6 16:25:08 2016 From: eric.csuf at gmail.com (EricJ) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 13:25:08 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New Elecraft Product for Dayton? In-Reply-To: <007301d1a7b7$455d6f20$d0184d60$@swbell.net> References: <3edeaddd-7d93-6790-0bc4-72f361e9d170@gmail.com> <007301d1a7b7$455d6f20$d0184d60$@swbell.net> Message-ID: <961641c9-cbf2-0036-dee4-6582a3f55fa4@gmail.com> The touch screen would have to be horizontal so you can crawl around on it and reach all the features. Eric KE6US On 5/6/2016 9:49 AM, Terry Schieler wrote: > Probably all menu-driven because there is no excuse not to have knobs on a > rig THAT big. > > Terry, W0FM > > -----Original Message----- > From: Warren Merkel [mailto:hullspeed21 at gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 8:57 AM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] New Elecraft Product for Dayton? > > > I ran across this in an undisclosed location. Could this be the next > Elecraft box radio for Dayton? > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24789865/Elecraft2016DaytonSecretProject > .jpg > > Warren, KD4Z > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric_csuf at hotmail.com > > From donnieput at gmail.com Fri May 6 16:28:52 2016 From: donnieput at gmail.com (Don Putnick) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 13:28:52 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [K-line] New Macbook vs K-line control/data Message-ID: Just curious if any of you Macbook owners have thought ahead about how to control all of your K-line equipment via the new Macbook's single USB-C port? I'm due for a new laptop later this year. 73 Don NA6Z From r.tristani at gmail.com Fri May 6 17:10:36 2016 From: r.tristani at gmail.com (Ramon Tristani) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 17:10:36 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 VSWR Meter Calibration In-Reply-To: References: <5DF2F9AC-049B-49DB-BCA1-3BFCE6ACCE81@gmail.com> <53b57a8e-ef34-e8ec-f89e-400cf7f16cd9@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <8B8D55FD-B300-4057-BF8E-E84DD167902D@gmail.com> Yes, I performed tests with and without the ATU in the circuit. Howard, from Elecraft Support contacted me off the list and requested information that I just sent to him. Thank you, Ramon, NQ9V Ram?n E. Tristani Sr. ramon.tristani at icloud.com https://www.flickr.com/photos/nq9v/ www.tristaniministries.org www.tristaniphotography.com > On May 6, 2016, at 3:06 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: > > Is the K3 ATU in bypass? > > Eric > elecraft.com > > On 5/6/2016 11:26 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >> Ramon, >> >> There is a calibration procedure in the manual to calibrate the wattmeter for forward power, but not for SWR. >> I suggest you contact K3support for further assistance. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >> On 5/6/2016 11:50 AM, Ramon Tristani wrote: >>> The VSWR indication in my K3 seems to be off considerably when connected to a 50 ohm dummy load. An external VSWR meter indicates 1:1 while the K3 most of the time indicates readings varying up to 2:1 at times. I am using the same short coax stub to connect the instruments one at a time to eliminate other possibilities. Is there a way to ?calibrate? the VSWR indicator in the K3? My K3 is serial number 4416. The Auto Tuner in it works fine and reduces the indication to 1:1 as it is supposed to but when bypassing it the VSWR indication will always be off. Any suggestions? >>> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com > From r.tristani at gmail.com Fri May 6 17:14:49 2016 From: r.tristani at gmail.com (Ramon Tristani) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 17:14:49 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 VSWR Meter Calibration In-Reply-To: <8B8D55FD-B300-4057-BF8E-E84DD167902D@gmail.com> References: <5DF2F9AC-049B-49DB-BCA1-3BFCE6ACCE81@gmail.com> <53b57a8e-ef34-e8ec-f89e-400cf7f16cd9@embarqmail.com> <8B8D55FD-B300-4057-BF8E-E84DD167902D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Eric; Here?s what I submitted to Howard from Elecraft a few minutes ago: Howard: I performed the tests using an MFJ Model 260C Dummy Load with less that a foot of RG-58 coax to the Antenna 1 output of the K3. Here are the results you requested: Freq. 3930 KHz Tuner bypassed: VSWR=1:1 Auto Tuner engaged: VSWR = 1.1 Freq. 7200 KHz Tuner bypassed: 1.1 Tuner engaged: 1.0 Freq. 10100 KHz Tuner bypassed: 1.1 Tuner engaged: 1.0 Freq. 14200 KHz Tuner bypassed: 1.1 Tuner engaged: 1.0 Freq. 18120 Tuner bypassed: 1.2 Tuner engaged: 1.0 Freq. 21200 KHz Tuner bypassed: 1.3 Tuner engaged: 1.1 Freq. 24950 KHz Tuner bypassed: 1.4 Tuner engaged: 1.0 Freq. 28300 KHz Tuner bypassed: 1.7 Tuner engaged: 1.1 Freq. 50100 KHz Tuner bypassed: 1.1 Tuner engaged: 1.1 I repeated the tests above with the same stub of coax, same dummy load but in series with the wattmeter in a Palstar AT2KD. The indication on the Palstar was always 1.0 VSWR with the K3 tuner in bypass mode in all tests. Power level for measurements was 15 watts in all cases. The MCU in my K3 is 05.38, FPF is 1.25, DSP1 is 2.86. Please update my records from KP4GE to my new callsign: NQ9V. My K3 and P3 have been performing flawlessly until I noticed the variation in the VSWR display. I also ran the transmitter gain calibration this morning using the same dummy load. Here is the transmitter calibration summary: K3 Tx Gain Calibration data written on 2016-05-06 at 16:22:43 K3 Serial Number 04416 K3 MCU revision 05.38. RS-232 speed 38400 bit/s. Elecraft K3 Utility Revision 1.15.12.7 1900 kHz TxGain LP 15 3750 kHz TxGain LP 11 5336 kHz TxGain LP 18 7150 kHz TxGain LP 14 10125 kHz TxGain LP 18 14200 kHz TxGain LP 08 18110 kHz TxGain LP 08 21200 kHz TxGain LP 05 24930 kHz TxGain LP 07 29000 kHz TxGain LP 07 52000 kHz TxGain LP 10 1900 kHz TxGain HP 25 3750 kHz TxGain HP 30 5336 kHz TxGain HP 48 7150 kHz TxGain HP 36 10125 kHz TxGain HP 36 14200 kHz TxGain HP 16 18110 kHz TxGain HP 11 21200 kHz TxGain HP 05 24930 kHz TxGain HP 03 29000 kHz TxGain HP 08 52000 kHz TxGain HP 04 Ram?n E. Tristani Sr. ramon.tristani at icloud.com https://www.flickr.com/photos/nq9v/ www.tristaniministries.org www.tristaniphotography.com > On May 6, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Ramon Tristani wrote: > > Yes, I performed tests with and without the ATU in the circuit. Howard, from Elecraft Support contacted me off the list and requested information that I just sent to him. > > Thank you, > Ramon, NQ9V > > > Ram?n E. Tristani Sr. > ramon.tristani at icloud.com > https://www.flickr.com/photos/nq9v/ > www.tristaniministries.org > www.tristaniphotography.com >> On May 6, 2016, at 3:06 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft > wrote: >> >> Is the K3 ATU in bypass? >> >> Eric >> elecraft.com >> >> On 5/6/2016 11:26 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >>> Ramon, >>> >>> There is a calibration procedure in the manual to calibrate the wattmeter for forward power, but not for SWR. >>> I suggest you contact K3support for further assistance. >>> >>> 73, >>> Don W3FPR >>> >>> On 5/6/2016 11:50 AM, Ramon Tristani wrote: >>>> The VSWR indication in my K3 seems to be off considerably when connected to a 50 ohm dummy load. An external VSWR meter indicates 1:1 while the K3 most of the time indicates readings varying up to 2:1 at times. I am using the same short coax stub to connect the instruments one at a time to eliminate other possibilities. Is there a way to ?calibrate? the VSWR indicator in the K3? My K3 is serial number 4416. The Auto Tuner in it works fine and reduces the indication to 1:1 as it is supposed to but when bypassing it the VSWR indication will always be off. Any suggestions? >>>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com >> > From nate.oo at gmail.com Fri May 6 17:31:24 2016 From: nate.oo at gmail.com (Nate Burr) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 15:31:24 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] [K-line] New Macbook vs K-line control/data In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <919849A0-742B-427B-8F8D-C857A5BC89A6@gmail.com> i have a K3 with serial connections for communication. it works fine for me. I also use the SignalLink for audio since the macbook doesn?t have audio in. This isn?t an issue if you have the K3S. -nate > On May 6, 2016, at 2:28 PM, Don Putnick wrote: > > Just curious if any of you Macbook owners have thought ahead about how to > control all of your K-line equipment via the new Macbook's single USB-C > port? I'm due for a new laptop later this year. 73 Don NA6Z > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nate.oo at gmail.com From edauer at law.du.edu Fri May 6 17:41:29 2016 From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 21:41:29 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] New Elecraft Product for Dayton? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Gotta have one. Absolutely. If it?s part of the K line, I gotta have one. Ted, KN1CBR >------------------------------ > >Message: 27 >Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 09:56:48 -0400 >From: Warren Merkel >To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >Subject: [Elecraft] New Elecraft Product for Dayton? >Message-ID: <3edeaddd-7d93-6790-0bc4-72f361e9d170 at gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > >I ran across this in an undisclosed location. Could this be the next >Elecraft box radio for Dayton? > >https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24789865/Elecraft2016DaytonSecretProje >ct.jpg > >Warren, KD4Z From frantz at pwpconsult.com Fri May 6 17:42:04 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 14:42:04 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [K-line] New Macbook vs K-line control/data In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I keep all of my home USB equipment on one hub and just plug it in when I'm home. Currently the hub is a 7 port which connects the K3/P3, a real mouse, a real keyboard, a backup disk drive, and a cord for my iPhone. I have a cord for the KX3, which isn't usually out of its case. The only problem is that sometimes when the power to the hub drops, the MacBook USB port locks up and won't work again until I reboot. 73 Bill AE6JV On 5/6/16 at 1:28 PM, donnieput at gmail.com (Don Putnick) wrote: >Just curious if any of you Macbook owners have thought ahead about how to >control all of your K-line equipment via the new Macbook's single USB-C >port? I'm due for a new laptop later this year. 73 Don NA6Z ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Privacy is dead, get over | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | it. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | - Scott McNealy | Los Gatos, CA 95032 From nr4c at widomaker.com Fri May 6 18:08:02 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 18:08:02 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 VSWR Meter Calibration In-Reply-To: <5DF2F9AC-049B-49DB-BCA1-3BFCE6ACCE81@gmail.com> References: <5DF2F9AC-049B-49DB-BCA1-3BFCE6ACCE81@gmail.com> Message-ID: <50701075-12DE-4CB5-8631-ABA9B44D9CEF@widomaker.com> I don't think the "bypass" in the KAT3 is a true bypass. It sets a "solution" which should be equivalent to a bypass. The new KAT3a has a true "bypass" relay. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 6, 2016, at 11:50 AM, Ramon Tristani wrote: > > The VSWR indication in my K3 seems to be off considerably when connected to a 50 ohm dummy load. An external VSWR meter indicates 1:1 while the K3 most of the time indicates readings varying up to 2:1 at times. I am using the same short coax stub to connect the instruments one at a time to eliminate other possibilities. Is there a way to ?calibrate? the VSWR indicator in the K3? My K3 is serial number 4416. The Auto Tuner in it works fine and reduces the indication to 1:1 as it is supposed to but when bypassing it the VSWR indication will always be off. Any suggestions? > > > Ram?n E. Tristani Sr. > ramon.tristani at icloud.com > https://www.flickr.com/photos/nq9v/ > www.tristaniministries.org > www.tristaniphotography.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From nf4l at comcast.net Fri May 6 18:57:03 2016 From: nf4l at comcast.net (Mike Reublin NF4L) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 18:57:03 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [K-line] New Macbook vs K-line control/data In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0BB59F57-861F-4C77-B06E-300473C588C4@comcast.net> My MacBook is down to one USB port. I use a Plugable powered 10 port expander. No problems. 73, Mike NF4L > On May 6, 2016, at 4:28 PM, Don Putnick wrote: > > Just curious if any of you Macbook owners have thought ahead about how to > control all of your K-line equipment via the new Macbook's single USB-C > port? I'm due for a new laptop later this year. 73 Don NA6Z > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nf4l at comcast.net From stevewa88 at gmail.com Fri May 6 21:34:19 2016 From: stevewa88 at gmail.com (Steve Ward) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 18:34:19 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B woes Message-ID: <572D461B.3070700@gmail.com> Hi all, so I just got back in town last night, and I wanted to get my new KIO3B installed in s/n 1544 so I could give it a run during 7QP. Assembly went smoothly enough and the "Y" cable to the P3 seems to be doing its thing just fine. But my Windows 10 computer isn't talking to the K3 or the P3 anymore. Device manager sees both the sound card and the serial port (assigned to COM5) but neither the K3 utility or the P3 utility (both latest versions) can talk with their respective equipment. They just cycle through all the baud rates trying to make a connection (I checked and both K3 and P3 are set to 38400). What have I missed? I checked all the firmware revisions before starting and everything looks just fine. I double checked the position of the slide switch on the I/O board before closing the radio up. Any ideas? I would hate to have to tear it all apart again tonight just to get on the air for the contest tomorrow, but it's starting to look like that's my answer. Please copy me on any replies because I get the digest version of the reflector and it'll be a while before another one comes through. Thanks everyone! 73, Steve AD7OG From wa6nhc at gmail.com Fri May 6 21:36:03 2016 From: wa6nhc at gmail.com (Rick WA6NHC) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 18:36:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New Elecraft Product for Dayton? In-Reply-To: <20160506192721.55F2B149B458@mailman.qth.net> References: <20160506192721.55F2B149B458@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: <572D4683.8060101@gmail.com> As with all things Elecraft, the new K-room is configurable any way the user desires. Windows, interior and exterior painting, doors, floors and power type (solar, battery, commercial) are all options. Also suitable for a more harmonious matrimonial experience if one overspends the household budget (commonly referred to as the doghouse model). May also be used in a mobile configuration but without the (apartment) stacking option. Price does not include delivery or local permit fees. Rick nhc On 5/6/2016 12:25 PM, Joe K2UF wrote: > This is the ultimate K-line shack. Windows will be an optional add on. I > would put one at the base of my tower but I think the 'boss' might require > that I live in it. ;o() > > 73 Joe K2UF > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John > Pitz > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 2:42 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft Product for Dayton? > > new KXPAFULLLEGALLIMIT amp? > > > > On Fri, 2016-05-06 at 09:56 -0400, Warren Merkel wrote: > >> I ran across this in an undisclosed location. Could this be the next >> Elecraft box radio for Dayton? >> >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24789865/Elecraft2016DaytonSecretP >> roject.jpg >> >> Warren, KD4Z >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email >> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >> crustacean at brig-elec.com >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to joe at k2uf.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wa6nhc at gmail.com From ed at w0yk.com Fri May 6 21:50:32 2016 From: ed at w0yk.com (Ed Muns) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 18:50:32 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B woes In-Reply-To: <572D461B.3070700@gmail.com> References: <572D461B.3070700@gmail.com> Message-ID: <46505D419CD2481DA308AD3AD7152B0D@h81420t> Make sure you have set 'USB' in the K3 CONFIG menu RS232 item. Ed W0YK -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Steve Ward Sent: 06 May, 2016 18:34 To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B woes Hi all, so I just got back in town last night, and I wanted to get my new KIO3B installed in s/n 1544 so I could give it a run during 7QP. Assembly went smoothly enough and the "Y" cable to the P3 seems to be doing its thing just fine. But my Windows 10 computer isn't talking to the K3 or the P3 anymore. Device manager sees both the sound card and the serial port (assigned to COM5) but neither the K3 utility or the P3 utility (both latest versions) can talk with their respective equipment. They just cycle through all the baud rates trying to make a connection (I checked and both K3 and P3 are set to 38400). What have I missed? I checked all the firmware revisions before starting and everything looks just fine. I double checked the position of the slide switch on the I/O board before closing the radio up. Any ideas? I would hate to have to tear it all apart again tonight just to get on the air for the contest tomorrow, but it's starting to look like that's my answer. Please copy me on any replies because I get the digest version of the reflector and it'll be a while before another one comes through. Thanks everyone! 73, Steve AD7OG ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ed at w0yk.com From stevewa88 at gmail.com Fri May 6 21:55:33 2016 From: stevewa88 at gmail.com (Steve Ward) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 18:55:33 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B woes In-Reply-To: <46505D419CD2481DA308AD3AD7152B0D@h81420t> References: <572D461B.3070700@gmail.com> <46505D419CD2481DA308AD3AD7152B0D@h81420t> Message-ID: That was it! ID10T error strikes again On Friday, May 6, 2016, Ed Muns wrote: > Make sure you have set 'USB' in the K3 CONFIG menu RS232 item. > > Ed W0YK > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net ] > On Behalf Of Steve > Ward > Sent: 06 May, 2016 18:34 > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B woes > > Hi all, so I just got back in town last night, and I wanted to get my > new KIO3B installed in s/n 1544 so I could give it a run during 7QP. > Assembly went smoothly enough and the "Y" cable to the P3 seems to be > doing its thing just fine. > > But my Windows 10 computer isn't talking to the K3 or the P3 anymore. > Device manager sees both the sound card and the serial port (assigned to > COM5) but neither the K3 utility or the P3 utility (both latest > versions) can talk with their respective equipment. They just cycle > through all the baud rates trying to make a connection (I checked and > both K3 and P3 are set to 38400). > > What have I missed? I checked all the firmware revisions before > starting and everything looks just fine. I double checked the position > of the slide switch on the I/O board before closing the radio up. Any > ideas? I would hate to have to tear it all apart again tonight just to > get on the air for the contest tomorrow, but it's starting to look like > that's my answer. Please copy me on any replies because I get the > digest version of the reflector and it'll be a while before another one > comes through. > > Thanks everyone! > > 73, > Steve > AD7OG > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ed at w0yk.com > > From wb4ooa at gmail.com Fri May 6 22:00:49 2016 From: wb4ooa at gmail.com (Ron Durie) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 22:00:49 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S 10684 DISPLAY BLANK Message-ID: <001201d1a804$47813280$d6839780$@gmail.com> PROBLEM SOLVED. Received from Elecraft today a new front panel board; installed it and all is working normal again. The new board arrive just under 48 hrs. from when it was requested, traveling from CA to Waxhaw NC. Unbelievable service from Elecraft and USPS. I will send the bad board back to Elecraft Monday. Thanks Elecraft for all your support. Ron WB4OOA Elecraft K3s-Line From donwilh at embarqmail.com Fri May 6 22:21:21 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 22:21:21 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New Elecraft Product for Dayton? In-Reply-To: <572D4683.8060101@gmail.com> References: <20160506192721.55F2B149B458@mailman.qth.net> <572D4683.8060101@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5e1bf251-3a11-0f50-6648-86d377d61090@embarqmail.com> Yes, that is the ultimate K-Line hamshack if it can get by the XYL police and local neighborhood restrictive covenants. 40 feet long by 8 foot wide and 8 foot high (also available in 20 foot ling versions). Just right for a separate hamshack. Fortunately for me, the XYL is more forgiving and we share a "hobby room" where she has her stuff and I have mine with an imaginary divide down the middle of the 14 by 26 foot room. My workbench is in the basement so that does not count for the operating space. Yes, we planned it that way, she was into her hobbies and I into mine when we met, so agreements about private hobby space had to be negotiated. While we were building the house, we did stuff all our belongings into 2 20 x 8 x 8 storage containers. While it served the purpose, I do not want to go back to that situation. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/6/2016 9:36 PM, Rick WA6NHC wrote: > As with all things Elecraft, the new K-room is configurable any way > the user desires. Windows, interior and exterior painting, doors, > floors and power type (solar, battery, commercial) are all options. > Also suitable for a more harmonious matrimonial experience if one > overspends the household budget (commonly referred to as the doghouse > model). May also be used in a mobile configuration but without the > (apartment) stacking option. Price does not include delivery or local > permit fees. > From mike at mdodd.com Fri May 6 22:23:55 2016 From: mike at mdodd.com (Mike Dodd) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 22:23:55 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S 10684 DISPLAY BLANK In-Reply-To: <001201d1a804$47813280$d6839780$@gmail.com> References: <001201d1a804$47813280$d6839780$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <572D51BB.70009@mdodd.com> On 5/6/2016 10:00 PM, Ron Durie wrote: > The new board arrive just under 48 hrs. from when it was requested, > [...] > Unbelievable service from Elecraft and USPS. I will send the bad board back > to Elecraft Monday. I too had excellent support from Elecraft, receiving a replacement KAT3-A in two days. Kudos to Elecraft! Semi-related question: Does anyone know if it is possible to create a First Class parcel label on the USPS website? I have an account, and create Priority Mail labels all the time, but haven't found an option to go with First Class Parcel instead. Elecraft shipped me the ATU via First Class, and I wanted to return the defective one the same way, with a tracking number. I had to drive to the post office to do this, and the clerk there had no clue about creating First Class Parcel labels online. Thanks for any information on this. -- 73, Mike N4CF Louisa County, VA USA Elecraft K3s/100 Carolina Windom up 45' http://n4cf.mdodd.com From lstavenhagen at hotmail.com Fri May 6 22:26:05 2016 From: lstavenhagen at hotmail.com (lstavenhagen) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 19:26:05 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] New Elecraft Product for Dayton? In-Reply-To: <572D4683.8060101@gmail.com> References: <3edeaddd-7d93-6790-0bc4-72f361e9d170@gmail.com> <572D4683.8060101@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1462587965540-7617240.post@n2.nabble.com> Oh it's a shack... I thought it was the new rig. I've been wondering all day how I was going to fit that into my pelican case. 73, LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/New-Elecraft-Product-for-Dayton-tp7617207p7617240.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From rwnewbould at comcast.net Fri May 6 22:39:21 2016 From: rwnewbould at comcast.net (Rich) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 22:39:21 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 and Noise Cancelling RX ants system Message-ID: I wondering if you can watch the noise diminish/increase on the P3 when you adjust one of the RX antenna noise cancelling systems. In particular the DXE NCC1. I would think you could watch the P3 display as an aid while tweaking the knobs. Or am I all wet? Rich K3RWN From k2av.guy at gmail.com Fri May 6 22:40:51 2016 From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 22:40:51 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S 10684 DISPLAY BLANK In-Reply-To: <572D51BB.70009@mdodd.com> References: <001201d1a804$47813280$d6839780$@gmail.com> <572D51BB.70009@mdodd.com> Message-ID: https://www.usps.com/business/postage-options.htm Two buttons on the same line under the text "Postage Options. Click on the button "Quick Compare". Would seem that first class has to be weighed, and sometimes measured, and inspected for proper packaging. 73, Guy K2AV On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 10:23 PM, Mike Dodd wrote: > On 5/6/2016 10:00 PM, Ron Durie wrote: > >> The new board arrive just under 48 hrs. from when it was requested, >> [...] >> Unbelievable service from Elecraft and USPS. I will send the bad board >> back >> to Elecraft Monday. >> > > I too had excellent support from Elecraft, receiving a replacement KAT3-A > in two days. Kudos to Elecraft! > > Semi-related question: Does anyone know if it is possible to create a > First Class parcel label on the USPS website? I have an account, and create > Priority Mail labels all the time, but haven't found an option to go with > First Class Parcel instead. > > Elecraft shipped me the ATU via First Class, and I wanted to return the > defective one the same way, with a tracking number. I had to drive to the > post office to do this, and the clerk there had no clue about creating > First Class Parcel labels online. > > Thanks for any information on this. > > -- > 73, Mike N4CF > Louisa County, VA USA > Elecraft K3s/100 > Carolina Windom up 45' > http://n4cf.mdodd.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2av.guy at gmail.com > From jalleninvest at gmail.com Fri May 6 23:18:52 2016 From: jalleninvest at gmail.com (Jim Allen) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 22:18:52 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft] K3S 10684 DISPLAY BLANK Message-ID: <66D2F33C-C14E-4631-B9D1-D6B9587687FC@gmail.com> I, too, have had remarkably good luck on the few orders I have placed, most recently last Sunday evening, shipped Monday morning, delivered Wednesday to South Texas. It makes me wonder why it takes so long to get mailings with checks in them. 73 de W6OGC Jim Allen PROBLEM SOLVED. Received from Elecraft today a new front panel board; installed it and all is working normal again. The new board arrive just under 48 hrs. from when it was requested, traveling from CA to Waxhaw NC. Unbelievable service from Elecraft and USPS. I will send the bad board back to Elecraft Monday. Thanks Elecraft for all your support. Ron WB4OOA Elecraft K3s-Line Sent from my iPad From nr4c at widomaker.com Fri May 6 23:40:08 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 23:40:08 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B woes In-Reply-To: <572D461B.3070700@gmail.com> References: <572D461B.3070700@gmail.com> Message-ID: Set L3 to USB not 38400. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 6, 2016, at 9:34 PM, Steve Ward wrote: > > Hi all, so I just got back in town last night, and I wanted to get my new KIO3B installed in s/n 1544 so I could give it a run during 7QP. Assembly went smoothly enough and the "Y" cable to the P3 seems to be doing its thing just fine. > > But my Windows 10 computer isn't talking to the K3 or the P3 anymore. Device manager sees both the sound card and the serial port (assigned to COM5) but neither the K3 utility or the P3 utility (both latest versions) can talk with their respective equipment. They just cycle through all the baud rates trying to make a connection (I checked and both K3 and P3 are set to 38400). > > What have I missed? I checked all the firmware revisions before starting and everything looks just fine. I double checked the position of the slide switch on the I/O board before closing the radio up. Any ideas? I would hate to have to tear it all apart again tonight just to get on the air for the contest tomorrow, but it's starting to look like that's my answer. Please copy me on any replies because I get the digest version of the reflector and it'll be a while before another one comes through. > > Thanks everyone! > > 73, > Steve > AD7OG > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Sat May 7 00:24:11 2016 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal) Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 07:24:11 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 and Noise Cancelling RX ants system In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <791BD59E-7332-46FC-8946-842761910A37@gmail.com> Sure. I had an NCC1 and I could see noise and signals go up and down on my P3 as I adjusted it. Vic 4X6GP > On 7 May 2016, at 5:39 AM, Rich wrote: > > I wondering if you can watch the noise diminish/increase on the P3 when you adjust one of the RX antenna noise cancelling systems. > > In particular the DXE NCC1. I would think you could watch the P3 display as an aid while tweaking the knobs. > > Or am I all wet? > > Rich > K3RWN From rwnewbould at comcast.net Sat May 7 00:26:12 2016 From: rwnewbould at comcast.net (Rich) Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 00:26:12 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 and Noise Cancelling RX ants system In-Reply-To: <791BD59E-7332-46FC-8946-842761910A37@gmail.com> References: <791BD59E-7332-46FC-8946-842761910A37@gmail.com> Message-ID: That is what I figured. We are going to install one at the club station and I just wanted to be sure. Thanks Rich On 5/7/2016 0:24 AM, Vic Rosenthal wrote: > Sure. I had an NCC1 and I could see noise and signals go up and down on my P3 as I adjusted it. > > Vic 4X6GP > >> On 7 May 2016, at 5:39 AM, Rich wrote: >> >> I wondering if you can watch the noise diminish/increase on the P3 when you adjust one of the RX antenna noise cancelling systems. >> >> In particular the DXE NCC1. I would think you could watch the P3 display as an aid while tweaking the knobs. >> >> Or am I all wet? >> >> Rich >> K3RWN From vk1zzgary at gmail.com Sat May 7 02:06:48 2016 From: vk1zzgary at gmail.com (Gary) Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 16:06:48 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] New Elecraft Product for Dayton? In-Reply-To: <1462587965540-7617240.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <3edeaddd-7d93-6790-0bc4-72f361e9d170@gmail.com> <572D4683.8060101@gmail.com> <1462587965540-7617240.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <572d85f8.8560620a.464e.ffffbff6@mx.google.com> Whew....i started to design a new trailer for the Motorhome so I could upgrade. Gary -----Original Message----- From: "lstavenhagen" Sent: ?7/?05/?2016 12:27 PM To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft Product for Dayton? Oh it's a shack... I thought it was the new rig. I've been wondering all day how I was going to fit that into my pelican case. 73, LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/New-Elecraft-Product-for-Dayton-tp7617207p7617240.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vk1zzgary at gmail.com From kilo4tmc at gmail.com Sat May 7 08:21:40 2016 From: kilo4tmc at gmail.com (Henry Pollock - K4TMC) Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 08:21:40 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New Elecraft Product for Dayton? In-Reply-To: <572D4683.8060101@gmail.com> References: <20160506192721.55F2B149B458@mailman.qth.net> <572D4683.8060101@gmail.com> Message-ID: For the 'Kit Version' you will have to upgrade your soldering gear to welding equipment! Why wasn't this subject started back on April 1st? 73, Henry - K4TMC On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 9:36 PM, Rick WA6NHC wrote: > As with all things Elecraft, the new K-room is configurable any way the > user desires. Windows, interior and exterior painting, doors, floors and > power type (solar, battery, commercial) are all options. Also suitable for > a more harmonious matrimonial experience if one overspends the household > budget (commonly referred to as the doghouse model). May also be used in a > mobile configuration but without the (apartment) stacking option. Price > does not include delivery or local permit fees. > > Rick nhc > > On 5/6/2016 12:25 PM, Joe K2UF wrote: > >> This is the ultimate K-line shack. Windows will be an optional add on. I >> would put one at the base of my tower but I think the 'boss' might require >> that I live in it. ;o() >> >> 73 Joe K2UF >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of >> John >> Pitz >> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 2:42 PM >> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft Product for Dayton? >> >> new KXPAFULLLEGALLIMIT amp? >> >> >> >> On Fri, 2016-05-06 at 09:56 -0400, Warren Merkel wrote: >> >> I ran across this in an undisclosed location. Could this be the next >>> Elecraft box radio for Dayton? >>> >>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24789865/Elecraft2016DaytonSecretP >>> roject.jpg >>> >>> Warren, KD4Z >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email >>> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >>> crustacean at brig-elec.com >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message >> delivered to joe at k2uf.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to wa6nhc at gmail.com >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kilo4tmc at gmail.com > From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Sat May 7 10:43:48 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 09:43:48 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] New Elecraft Product for Dayton? In-Reply-To: References: <20160506192721.55F2B149B458@mailman.qth.net> <572D4683.8060101@gmail.com> Message-ID: <572DFF24.5010204@mediacombb.net> I've got that covered. I've got a Lincoln Power MIG 216 welder. On 5/7/2016 7:21 AM, Henry Pollock - K4TMC wrote: > For the 'Kit Version' you will have to upgrade your soldering gear to > welding equipment! > > Why wasn't this subject started back on April 1st? > > 73, > Henry - K4TMC > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From edauer at law.du.edu Sat May 7 12:02:26 2016 From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward) Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 16:02:26 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Problem with KAT2 Bridge Null Adjustment Message-ID: Advice requested for the following problem: Completed and installed the KIO2. That works fine, so far as it has been tested with the outboard ("twins") KPA100 and KAT100. Next step was to put the amp and high power tuner aside and install a KAT2 in the base K2. [In case it matters, the K2 does not have the battery option.] All went well with the KAT2 until the Bridge Null Adjustment. There are two strange symptoms: First, adjusting C55 has no effect, and the display does not behave as it should. When Tune is held, the display first says HiCur, then it quickly changes to ATU and then, again quickly, it changes to 000 and stays there. Adjusting C55 to every possible position changes nothing. Each try produces the same display: about 2 seconds of HiCur, two seconds of ATU and then 000. Second, the DC voltage at pin 1 of U4 is way off. In Receive Mode it reads 0.0, as it should. But in Tune mode, at 5 watts indicated, it reads only 0.69 DCV rather than the 3.0 to 4.0 expected. I haven't put an external power meter on the rig yet but a 15-watt dummy load gets warm after a while so there does seem to be RF output. I see no solder bridges, no cold joints, no breaks or shorts thatI can see. The plugs and sockets have been checked at least five times to assure they are properly aligned and properly assigned. Any ideas, anyone? Thanks! Ted, KN1CBR From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sat May 7 14:24:45 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 14:24:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Problem with KAT2 Bridge Null Adjustment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ted, You will find the problem is with T1. It must be wound and installed exactly as shown in the manual, and that includes the direction of the winding. Your K2 is likely putting out all the power it is capable of, so do those TUNEs for only a short period or you will be replacing the PA transistors. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/7/2016 12:02 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote: > Advice requested for the following problem: > > Completed and installed the KIO2. That works fine, so far as it has been tested with the outboard ("twins") KPA100 and KAT100. Next step was to put the amp and high power tuner aside and install a KAT2 in the base K2. [In case it matters, the K2 does not have the battery option.] > > All went well with the KAT2 until the Bridge Null Adjustment. There are two strange symptoms: > > First, adjusting C55 has no effect, and the display does not behave as it should. When Tune is held, the display first says HiCur, then it quickly changes to ATU and then, again quickly, it changes to 000 and stays there. Adjusting C55 to every possible position changes nothing. Each try produces the same display: about 2 seconds of HiCur, two seconds of ATU and then 000. > > Second, the DC voltage at pin 1 of U4 is way off. In Receive Mode it reads 0.0, as it should. But in Tune mode, at 5 watts indicated, it reads only 0.69 DCV rather than the 3.0 to 4.0 expected. > > I haven't put an external power meter on the rig yet but a 15-watt dummy load gets warm after a while so there does seem to be RF output. > > I see no solder bridges, no cold joints, no breaks or shorts thatI can see. The plugs and sockets have been checked at least five times to assure they are properly aligned and properly assigned. > > Any ideas, anyone? Thanks! > > Ted, KN1CBR > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com > From frank at pwizardry.com Sat May 7 14:35:36 2016 From: frank at pwizardry.com (Frank Cox) Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 11:35:36 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 build issue after Part 1 of build In-Reply-To: <1461826868689-7616877.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1461826868689-7616877.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1462646136861-7617254.post@n2.nabble.com> I found a solution. I noticed that pressure on the power connector would sometimes cause a reboot. Reflowing a second time with more solder in that area cleared up all my problems. My theory is that short interruptions in power made the system glitch and create the symptoms. Remember that the display would go dark and not come back on even though I could see 5v and 6v power on the board. The other display issues were due to me not understanding the 7-segment alphabet used. For example the strange looking T. Once the display stayed on more than 30 seconds I was able to work it out with email help from support. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX1-build-issue-after-Part-1-of-build-tp7616877p7617254.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From edauer at law.du.edu Sat May 7 15:58:34 2016 From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward) Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 19:58:34 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Problem with KAT2 Bridge Null Adjustment Message-ID: <15D20A67-6F0F-44AA-87A3-A0EF27FFC3D4@law.du.edu> Thanks, Don. I did check that, and redid all of T1?s solder joints. No change. I was about to rewind T1 altogether when I decided to check the archives. Using a search method earlier suggested by Phil, W7OX, I found a post by you in 2013 answering the very same question. On reading it something struck me ? the person posing the question recited that he had set the process up by, among other things, turning both R1 and R2 fully clockwise. That hit me ? I had read that instruction as full COUNTER clockwise! I checked the manual again, and there it was - full clockwise. So, after doing that the right way, and suffering some chagrin, all was good. The U4 pin 1 voltage is a bit low at 2.8, but the null voltage gets down to 006 using C55 as prescribed. What you just wrote would have been exactly right - if I hadn?t been so d*****d stupid. Thank you for not thinking that I could have been. ?RTFM? is now amended to read ?RTFM-C? where C = carefully. I am posting this on the reflector by way of self-discipline. If I didn?t confess it publicly, I?d be less likely to learn from it. Thanks, as always. Ted, KN1CBR On 5/7/16, 12:24 PM, "Don Wilhelm" wrote: >Ted, > >You will find the problem is with T1. It must be wound and installed >exactly as shown in the manual, and that includes the direction of the >winding. > >Your K2 is likely putting out all the power it is capable of, so do >those TUNEs for only a short period or you will be replacing the PA >transistors. > >73, >Don W3FPR > >On 5/7/2016 12:02 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote: >> Advice requested for the following problem: >> >> Completed and installed the KIO2. That works fine, so far as it has >>been tested with the outboard ("twins") KPA100 and KAT100. Next step >>was to put the amp and high power tuner aside and install a KAT2 in the >>base K2. [In case it matters, the K2 does not have the battery option.] >> >> All went well with the KAT2 until the Bridge Null Adjustment. There >>are two strange symptoms: >> >> First, adjusting C55 has no effect, and the display does not behave as >>it should. When Tune is held, the display first says HiCur, then it >>quickly changes to ATU and then, again quickly, it changes to 000 and >>stays there. Adjusting C55 to every possible position changes nothing. >>Each try produces the same display: about 2 seconds of HiCur, two >>seconds of ATU and then 000. >> >> Second, the DC voltage at pin 1 of U4 is way off. In Receive Mode it >>reads 0.0, as it should. But in Tune mode, at 5 watts indicated, it >>reads only 0.69 DCV rather than the 3.0 to 4.0 expected. >> >> I haven't put an external power meter on the rig yet but a 15-watt >>dummy load gets warm after a while so there does seem to be RF output. >> >> I see no solder bridges, no cold joints, no breaks or shorts thatI can >>see. The plugs and sockets have been checked at least five times to >>assure they are properly aligned and properly assigned. >> >> Any ideas, anyone? Thanks! >> >> Ted, KN1CBR >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com >> > From ns9i2016 at Bayland.net Sat May 7 16:04:46 2016 From: ns9i2016 at Bayland.net ('DGB') Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 15:04:46 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] FS (2) RemoteRig RC-1216H In-Reply-To: <99b8d824-991f-191e-0f0f-8977f669c9ba@Bayland.net> References: <572B8BD4.4000706@triconet.org> <99b8d824-991f-191e-0f0f-8977f669c9ba@Bayland.net> Message-ID: SOLD Thank You On 5/5/2016 1:23 PM, 'DGB' wrote: > I have two RemoteRig RC-1216H units that are surplus to my needs. > > These are Web based remote controls for SteppIR, ACOM-2000A, Expert > 1K-FA,Elecraft KPA500 and Rotators and more. > > Also have the .PDF user manual. Asking $225 each or $425 for both > shipped CONUS. Will take PayPal, postal money order, or a personal > check with the wait for it to clear the bank. > > Tnx 73 Dwight NS9I > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ns9i2016 at bayland.net > > From k0dxv at aol.com Sat May 7 23:09:21 2016 From: k0dxv at aol.com (Doug Person) Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 20:09:21 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] FS: K3 and P3 Message-ID: <9494204a-9409-8c6c-4f66-1dbc8763936e@aol.com> I'm selling my K3 and P3. (Overwhelmed by medical bills and need a new car) The K3 has all the upgrades (KIO3B, K3SYN3, NEOGRIP). Also has KAT3A internal tuner and KPA3A 100 watt internal amplifier. Includes KDVR3 which has not been installed and is still in original unopened bag. Finally, included is all needed cables, the Fred Cady K3 book and shipped in original factory box. This is over $3600 if new. The P3 includes the P3TXMON option with the DCHF-2000 directional coupler. The P3 is a slight scratch on the side but is otherwise in perfect shape. Screen is unblemished. The P3 with the cables and TXMON is worth over $900 new. $3300 takes all. (Worth at least $4500 if all new). PayPal preferred (no extra fee, PayPal id:dxvictor at gmail.com). Shipping extra. Contact me off-list ---- Thanks -- Doug -- K0DXV From frank at pwizardry.com Sat May 7 23:58:20 2016 From: frank at pwizardry.com (Frank Cox) Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 20:58:20 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 build issue after Part 1 of build In-Reply-To: <1462471076052-7617192.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1461826868689-7616877.post@n2.nabble.com> <43b99746-cfde-bd6f-2792-c9459ca5bfc9@embarqmail.com> <1461866807592-7616890.post@n2.nabble.com> <1462471076052-7617192.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1462679900306-7617258.post@n2.nabble.com> Thanks Rod, That fits with my ideas which I put in my last post where I talk about the solution to the problem. But I didn't have a reason for the one digit being brighter. Your idea would complete my theory. 73, --Frank -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX1-build-issue-after-Part-1-of-build-tp7616877p7617258.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Sun May 8 10:31:06 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 09:31:06 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3]KXBC3 upgrade? Message-ID: <572F4DAA.7010001@mediacombb.net> Is there any possibility that the KXBC3 will be upgraded to work with LiFePO4 AA cells. If I'm not mistaken the LiFePO4 cells are 3.2V so you could cut the number of cells in half and free up some space in the radio for other "stuff" also increasing available stand alone battery voltage to 12.8V give or take. LiFePO4 cells aren't bleeding edge battery tech and are much safer than Li polymer. They are in everything. A 50% increase in energy density 120 wh/kg vs 80 wh/kg for NiMH is hard to ignore. Thoughts? -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From frantz at pwpconsult.com Sun May 8 10:46:16 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 07:46:16 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 setting up digital Message-ID: I had to set up my KX3 for digital operation with a SignaLink USB from scratch again, and I had to learn the same "features" which tripped me up the last time over again the hard way. I'm documenting them here in hopes I won't forget them the next time. (I'm also writing them on a file card to keep with the radio.) (1) High levels of Mic input show up as zero signal. The fix is to always start from 0 and move slowly up in levels. Mic level 5 seems to be about right for my setup. (2) You can't be in a digital mode (DATA A etc.) and turn off mic bias. All you get is N/A. It seems to be a poor idea to DC bias the isolation transformers in the SignaLink, so you really need it off. And of course, voice modes won't work until you turn mic bias back on again. In an ideal world, the level, bias, and VOX settings would be saved separately for Data and Voice modes. (And the radio would recognize that mic input settings need to be made in data modes.) But the results are worth it. From New Hampshire, I've been able to work 14 DXCCs including an ATNO. I also had a long rag chew with AE5ZA in Texas, all on 20M PSK31/63 with only a few hours of operating. 73 Bill AE6JV --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz |"We used to quip that "password" is the most common 408-356-8506 | password. Now it's 'password1.' Who said users haven't www.pwpconsult.com | learned anything about security?" -- Bruce Schneier From edgansen at gmail.com Sun May 8 12:10:39 2016 From: edgansen at gmail.com (Ed Gansen) Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 12:10:39 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FS - Pignology Piglet v.2 Message-ID: <80C600B6-160E-4655-AA93-961A5D406EEB@gmail.com> Excess to my needs - a Piglet, version 2, including Elecraft Serial to KX3 cable. Excellent Condition. $70.00 USD, includes CONUS shipping. Reply off list, please. Ed Gansen - K8DSS From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Sun May 8 13:51:04 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 18:51:04 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 setting up digital In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5A1D5F07-A5CC-4DC0-968D-6F01ECFDD4EB@yahoo.co.uk> BIll, I believe that in Data mode, the bias if switched on in SSB is automatically switched off. You are right about point 1, that tripped up a lot of people, including your's truly. 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 8 May 2016, at 15:46, Bill Frantz wrote: > > I had to set up my KX3 for digital operation with a SignaLink USB from scratch again, and I had to learn the same "features" which tripped me up the last time over again the hard way. I'm documenting them here in hopes I won't forget them the next time. (I'm also writing them on a file card to keep with the radio.) > > (1) High levels of Mic input show up as zero signal. The fix is to always start from 0 and move slowly up in levels. Mic level 5 seems to be about right for my setup. > > (2) You can't be in a digital mode (DATA A etc.) and turn off mic bias. All you get is N/A. It seems to be a poor idea to DC bias the isolation transformers in the SignaLink, so you really need it off. And of course, voice modes won't work until you turn mic bias back on again. > > In an ideal world, the level, bias, and VOX settings would be saved separately for Data and Voice modes. (And the radio would recognize that mic input settings need to be made in data modes.) > > But the results are worth it. From New Hampshire, I've been able to work 14 DXCCs including an ATNO. I also had a long rag chew with AE5ZA in Texas, all on 20M PSK31/63 with only a few hours of operating. > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz |"We used to quip that "password" is the most common > 408-356-8506 | password. Now it's 'password1.' Who said users haven't > www.pwpconsult.com | learned anything about security?" -- Bruce Schneier > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk From peluke at gmail.com Sun May 8 14:23:15 2016 From: peluke at gmail.com (Patrick Luke) Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 11:23:15 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Kx3 and 2M Message-ID: I have a KX3 with the 2M and atu options installed and a mirage dual band 2M/440amp connected. The issue is that the 2M signal/voice seem clipped if they are strong'ish it was working beautiful then not so much.. same issue with out the linear attached. The external antenna seems to be working nicely with my HT with no issues. I've been playing with the radio quite alot so I'm certain it's something I have messed up. any thoughts? -- Patrick Luke From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Sun May 8 14:24:56 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 19:24:56 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] Kx3 and 2M In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What mode SSB or FM? 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 8 May 2016, at 19:23, Patrick Luke wrote: > > I have a KX3 with the 2M and atu options installed and a mirage dual band > 2M/440amp connected. > > The issue is that the 2M signal/voice seem clipped if they are strong'ish > > it was working beautiful then not so much.. > > same issue with out the linear attached. > The external antenna seems to be working nicely with my HT with no issues. > > I've been playing with the radio quite alot so I'm certain it's something I > have messed up. > > any thoughts? > -- > Patrick Luke > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk From ptaa at ieee.org Sun May 8 14:27:14 2016 From: ptaa at ieee.org (LA7NO) Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 11:27:14 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 internal battery problems In-Reply-To: <68419d0f-e69a-0167-70e9-c101bf507ffc@gmail.com> References: <1462529199003-7617201.post@n2.nabble.com> <68419d0f-e69a-0167-70e9-c101bf507ffc@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1462732034151-7617265.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi list, and thanks for useful information. I usually do not deeply discharge the cells. This was only for checking the actual capacity at the cells before testing. I just measured the voltage of the 8 cells, once with the KX3 off, once with receiving with high volume. These are the results: Cell KX3 off KX3 on ------------------- 1 1,36 1,17 2 1,36 1,16 3 1,36 1,26 4 1,36 1,13 5 1,34 1,12 6 1,34 1,22 7 1,34 1,19 8 1,34 1,13 This does not look good. I have now ordered new Panasonic Eneloop PRO AA Mignon Akku LR06 2450mAh. Looking forward to testing those. Per-Tore / LA7NO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-internal-battery-problems-tp7617201p7617265.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Sun May 8 14:27:25 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 19:27:25 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 setting up digital In-Reply-To: <5A1D5F07-A5CC-4DC0-968D-6F01ECFDD4EB@yahoo.co.uk> References: <5A1D5F07-A5CC-4DC0-968D-6F01ECFDD4EB@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <4098ADB5-58D2-4D7C-A25E-C204C54FF2DB@yahoo.co.uk> Bill, I was certain I read that mic bias was off on DATA, but now am not so sure as I cannot find reference to it. Perhaps I stumped because it isn't adjustable that it isn't on. So don't take my word for it. Perhaps I was thinking about other parameters like TX equalisation or mic button tuning or something like that. 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 8 May 2016, at 18:51, David Anderson via Elecraft wrote: > > BIll, > > I believe that in Data mode, the bias if switched on in SSB is automatically switched off. > > You are right about point 1, that tripped up a lot of people, including your's truly. > > 73 from David GM4JJJ > >> On 8 May 2016, at 15:46, Bill Frantz wrote: >> >> I had to set up my KX3 for digital operation with a SignaLink USB from scratch again, and I had to learn the same "features" which tripped me up the last time over again the hard way. I'm documenting them here in hopes I won't forget them the next time. (I'm also writing them on a file card to keep with the radio.) >> >> (1) High levels of Mic input show up as zero signal. The fix is to always start from 0 and move slowly up in levels. Mic level 5 seems to be about right for my setup. >> >> (2) You can't be in a digital mode (DATA A etc.) and turn off mic bias. All you get is N/A. It seems to be a poor idea to DC bias the isolation transformers in the SignaLink, so you really need it off. And of course, voice modes won't work until you turn mic bias back on again. >> >> In an ideal world, the level, bias, and VOX settings would be saved separately for Data and Voice modes. (And the radio would recognize that mic input settings need to be made in data modes.) >> >> But the results are worth it. From New Hampshire, I've been able to work 14 DXCCs including an ATNO. I also had a long rag chew with AE5ZA in Texas, all on 20M PSK31/63 with only a few hours of operating. >> >> 73 Bill AE6JV >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Bill Frantz |"We used to quip that "password" is the most common >> 408-356-8506 | password. Now it's 'password1.' Who said users haven't >> www.pwpconsult.com | learned anything about security?" -- Bruce Schneier >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk From kevinr at coho.net Sun May 8 14:47:00 2016 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr at coho.net) Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 11:47:00 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement Message-ID: <572F89A4.9050304@coho.net> Hello, While the weather has improved as spring progresses propagation has remained poor. I am hoping all the contest activity this weekend will enhance the ionosphere's ability to support a few more contacts. One never knows :) Please join us on: 14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday) 7045 kHz at 0100z Monday (6 PM PDT Sunday) 73, Kevin. KD5ONS From egrimseid at gmail.com Sun May 8 16:32:11 2016 From: egrimseid at gmail.com (Erlend Grimseid) Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 22:32:11 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 setting up digital In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: When i tested, mic bias remained on when switching to data mode. And it is annoying because when using the radio with an smart phone the plug is not recognised as an 4pole plug for some reason. Also mic button settings can't be changed. So every time i go from hand mic to phone I forget, the stereo plug triggers the ptt, and I have to switch back to ssb to make changes. I wold love to be able to change mic settings in data mode. And that mic level, button and bias settings to be stored pr mode. Something for the next firmware maybe? 73 La4tta Erlend. 8. mai 2016 4:47 p.m. skrev "Bill Frantz" : > I had to set up my KX3 for digital operation with a SignaLink USB from > scratch again, and I had to learn the same "features" which tripped me up > the last time over again the hard way. I'm documenting them here in hopes I > won't forget them the next time. (I'm also writing them on a file card to > keep with the radio.) > > (1) High levels of Mic input show up as zero signal. The fix is to always > start from 0 and move slowly up in levels. Mic level 5 seems to be about > right for my setup. > > (2) You can't be in a digital mode (DATA A etc.) and turn off mic bias. > All you get is N/A. It seems to be a poor idea to DC bias the isolation > transformers in the SignaLink, so you really need it off. And of course, > voice modes won't work until you turn mic bias back on again. > > In an ideal world, the level, bias, and VOX settings would be saved > separately for Data and Voice modes. (And the radio would recognize that > mic input settings need to be made in data modes.) > > But the results are worth it. From New Hampshire, I've been able to work > 14 DXCCs including an ATNO. I also had a long rag chew with AE5ZA in Texas, > all on 20M PSK31/63 with only a few hours of operating. > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz |"We used to quip that "password" is the most common > 408-356-8506 | password. Now it's 'password1.' Who said users > haven't > www.pwpconsult.com | learned anything about security?" -- Bruce Schneier > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to egrimseid at gmail.com > From egrimseid at gmail.com Sun May 8 16:55:57 2016 From: egrimseid at gmail.com (Erlend Grimseid) Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 22:55:57 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3]KXBC3 upgrade? In-Reply-To: <572F4DAA.7010001@mediacombb.net> References: <572F4DAA.7010001@mediacombb.net> Message-ID: Make that an 2p4s battery pack and it would be on my shopping list. I have made an pack of 2x4 lifepo4 aa cells, external of course. I have used it to activate 2 sota on the same day with power to spare..... 73 La4tta Erlend 8. mai 2016 4:32 p.m. skrev "Kevin Stover" : > Is there any possibility that the KXBC3 will be upgraded to work with > LiFePO4 AA cells. > If I'm not mistaken the LiFePO4 cells are 3.2V so you could cut the number > of cells in half and free up some space in the radio for other "stuff" also > increasing available stand alone battery voltage to 12.8V give or take. > > LiFePO4 cells aren't bleeding edge battery tech and are much safer than Li > polymer. They are in everything. A 50% increase in energy density 120 wh/kg > vs 80 wh/kg for NiMH is hard to ignore. > > Thoughts? > > -- > R. Kevin Stover > AC0H > ARRL > FISTS #11993 > SKCC #215 > NAQCC #3441 > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to egrimseid at gmail.com > From edgansen at gmail.com Sun May 8 17:48:25 2016 From: edgansen at gmail.com (Ed Gansen) Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 17:48:25 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Piglet Message-ID: <4261962A-3DF6-401D-8E34-E0BB52AB289A@gmail.com> The Piglet has been sold. Ed - K8DSS From ingerassociates at cox.net Sun May 8 19:36:07 2016 From: ingerassociates at cox.net (David Inger) Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 16:36:07 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] FS: Elecraft K2/100 Message-ID: <3E6D48ABD7884777A724FF466575BB12@DELLXPS> I have an extremely clean K2 (100 w version) for sale. I am the second owner. The construction is very professional, and the radio functions without any problems. It is a 3100+ serial number with the Rev "B" mainboard. All additional Elecraft updates have been made to bring the radio up to current standards. Installed options (in addition to the 100-w module) include the KSB2 SSB adapter, KNB2 noise blanker and KAF2 audio filter and real-time clock. The VFO has been fitted with a slightly larger and more comfortable knob with a rubber ring and finger hole. The radio has never been around tobacco smoke. I will also include a Kenwood MC-43S hand mic, a serial cable for pc-to-radio interface, and a fused power cord fitted with Anderson PowerPoles. All manuals and upgrade documents are included. Pictures are available. This is a great performing radio! $700 firm plus shipping from Santa Barbara, CA. 73 de K6SBA David in Santa Barbara From edouard at lafargue.name Sun May 8 20:43:11 2016 From: edouard at lafargue.name (Edouard Lafargue) Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 17:43:11 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Wizkers:Radio update for the XG3 and community forum Message-ID: Hi everyone! Just a quick heads up: I have just released Wizkers:Radio 0.1.6, which adds support for frequency sweeps on the XG3, a feature that was missing and several of you asked me for. Now you have it :) Looking forward to hearing feedback from testers. Speaking of which: I don't want to hijack the Elecraft reflector with discussions related to this rig controller, and I have just launched a community forum for Wizkers:Radio at http://forum.wizkers.io/, so feel free to register there and join the conversation. 73 de ed w6ela From nr4c at widomaker.com Mon May 9 00:06:51 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 00:06:51 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3]KXBC3 upgrade? In-Reply-To: References: <572F4DAA.7010001@mediacombb.net> Message-ID: <639A913B-A32F-4B2D-96B5-87CB0B33BBA3@widomaker.com> Forgetaboutit ! Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 8, 2016, at 4:55 PM, Erlend Grimseid wrote: > > Make that an 2p4s battery pack and it would be on my shopping list. I have > made an pack of 2x4 lifepo4 aa cells, external of course. I have used it to > activate 2 sota on the same day with power to spare..... > > 73 > La4tta > Erlend > 8. mai 2016 4:32 p.m. skrev "Kevin Stover" : > >> Is there any possibility that the KXBC3 will be upgraded to work with >> LiFePO4 AA cells. >> If I'm not mistaken the LiFePO4 cells are 3.2V so you could cut the number >> of cells in half and free up some space in the radio for other "stuff" also >> increasing available stand alone battery voltage to 12.8V give or take. >> >> LiFePO4 cells aren't bleeding edge battery tech and are much safer than Li >> polymer. They are in everything. A 50% increase in energy density 120 wh/kg >> vs 80 wh/kg for NiMH is hard to ignore. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> -- >> R. Kevin Stover >> AC0H >> ARRL >> FISTS #11993 >> SKCC #215 >> NAQCC #3441 >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to egrimseid at gmail.com >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From jsodus at comcast.net Mon May 9 00:08:26 2016 From: jsodus at comcast.net (jsodus at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 04:08:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] I get the digest; how can I get to all the other postings? In-Reply-To: <648713969.6020551.1462766675351.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1664706252.6021390.1462766906311.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Hello, I've asked this question a couple years ago and received an answer, which worked but I no longer remember it. S ince then, the digest has been all I needed. But today I want to look at the other postings, specifically about Bienno battery postings by K9YC. How can I get to them? TIA for any reply. 73 Jerry KM3K From hb9brj at gmail.com Mon May 9 05:07:48 2016 From: hb9brj at gmail.com (hb9brj) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 02:07:48 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 internal battery problems In-Reply-To: <1462732034151-7617265.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1462529199003-7617201.post@n2.nabble.com> <68419d0f-e69a-0167-70e9-c101bf507ffc@gmail.com> <1462732034151-7617265.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1462784868627-7617307.post@n2.nabble.com> Per-Tore, With increasing cycle count, individual cells are showing differences. If you don't charge them individually, these differences are getting bigger, as reflected by the numbers you posted. You mentioned that you verified cell capacity using your charger. At what discharge current? Most probably not at the 1.5A which the KX3 draws when transmitting. While powering my KX3 with 8 internal Eneloop cells and varying output power, I found a total internal resistance of 1.15 Ohms. A single Eneloop cell showed 34mOhm (I have an instrument measuring Ri by applying short discharge current pulses). In total, only 25% of the total Ri comes from the 8 cells. Battery holder and wiring are responsible for 75%. 73, Markus HB9BRJ -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-internal-battery-problems-tp7617201p7617307.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ptaa at ieee.org Mon May 9 05:50:36 2016 From: ptaa at ieee.org (LA7NO) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 02:50:36 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 internal battery problems In-Reply-To: <1462784868627-7617307.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1462529199003-7617201.post@n2.nabble.com> <68419d0f-e69a-0167-70e9-c101bf507ffc@gmail.com> <1462732034151-7617265.post@n2.nabble.com> <1462784868627-7617307.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Hi Markus, thanks for interesting info. Discharge was with 100 mA. I am using a TechnoLine BC-1000 charger. It handles the 4 cells individually. Max. charging current is 1.500 mA, discharge current max 500 mA - all selectable,. Seems to work quite well. Per-Tore / LA7NO On 9 May 2016 at 11:07, hb9brj [via Elecraft] < ml-node+s365791n7617307h72 at n2.nabble.com> wrote: > Per-Tore, > > With increasing cycle count, individual cells are showing differences. If > you don't charge them individually, these differences are getting bigger, > as reflected by the numbers you posted. > > You mentioned that you verified cell capacity using your charger. At what > discharge current? Most probably not at the 1.5A which the KX3 draws when > transmitting. > > While powering my KX3 with 8 internal Eneloop cells and varying output > power, I found a total internal resistance of 1.15 Ohms. A single Eneloop > cell showed 34mOhm (I have an instrument measuring Ri by applying short > discharge current pulses). In total, only 25% of the total Ri comes from > the 8 cells. Battery holder and wiring are responsible for 75%. > > 73, Markus HB9BRJ > > > > ------------------------------ > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-internal-battery-problems-tp7617201p7617307.html > To unsubscribe from KX3 internal battery problems, click here > > . > NAML > > -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-internal-battery-problems-tp7617201p7617308.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From pa0pje at xs4all.nl Mon May 9 05:55:56 2016 From: pa0pje at xs4all.nl (Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE)) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 11:55:56 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] I get the digest; how can I get to all the other postings? In-Reply-To: <1664706252.6021390.1462766906311.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> References: <1664706252.6021390.1462766906311.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: <57305EAC.3030106@xs4all.nl> Hi Jerry, Try Nabble. Is this maybe what you are looking for? http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Field-Day-tips-td7590292.html#a7590298 In this thread you were one of the posters but you can search Nabble. If you just would search K9YC you will need some extra time to read all of Jim's posts...:-) "Found 4931 matching posts for k9yc in Elecraft" Oh and it's Bioenno, not Bienno. 73, Peter - PA0PJE Op 2016-05-09 06:08 schreef jsodus at comcast.net: > Hello, > > I've asked this question a couple years ago and received an answer, which worked but I no longer remember it. > S ince then, the digest has been all I needed. > But today I want to look at the other postings, specifically about Bienno battery postings by K9YC. > How can I get to them? > TIA for any reply. > > 73 Jerry KM3K From kd1na363 at gmail.com Mon May 9 09:55:33 2016 From: kd1na363 at gmail.com (David Robertson) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 09:55:33 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RJ45 Message-ID: Kevin, Thanks for the information on the RJ45 standards. what confuses me is there are 6 pair of wires in a CAT 5 cable. In the standards you list, the only difference is the placement of the Orange/Orange-White and Green/Green-White pair of wires. As long as you maintain the same standard or a standard you create on BOTH ends of the CAT 5 cable this cable could be used anywhere, regardless of the system used. I understand that maintaining a standard of wire color codes is important for tracing and troubleshooting purposes. From: Kevin Stover To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Cc: Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 18:50:46 -0500 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment The standards go thusly. TIA/EIA 568-A (T568A) Pin 1 - white / green stripe Pin 2 - green Pin 3 - white / orange stripe Pin 4 - blue Pin 5 - white / blue stripe pin 6 - orange pin 7 - white / brown stripe pin 8 - brown TIA/EIA 568-B (T568B) Pin 1 - white / orange stripe Pin 2 - orange Pin 3 - white / green stripe Pin 4 - blue Pin 5 - white / blue stripe Pin 6 - green Pin 7 - white / brown stripe Pin 8 - brown -- Dave Robertson KD1NA From daleputnam at hotmail.com Mon May 9 10:12:40 2016 From: daleputnam at hotmail.com (Dale Putnam) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 14:12:40 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] RJ45 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Dave, Your logic seems correct on the surface, however the CAT5 standard also states the number of twist per pair, and the placement of the different twists, on the ends also contribute to the minimizing of "crosstalk". If you aren't attempting to be strict to the standards, then any wiring will work on the jacks.. understanding that signal attenuation, and crosstalk, and capacitance between pairs, and inductance between pairs, will be affected, such that the nominal signal attenuation, as stated for 100ft, will not be attained. Have a great day, --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy ________________________________________ From: Elecraft on behalf of David Robertson Sent: Monday, May 9, 2016 7:55 AM To: kenin.stover at mediacombb.net; Elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] RJ45 Kevin, Thanks for the information on the RJ45 standards. what confuses me is there are 6 pair of wires in a CAT 5 cable. In the standards you list, the only difference is the placement of the Orange/Orange-White and Green/Green-White pair of wires. As long as you maintain the same standard or a standard you create on BOTH ends of the CAT 5 cable this cable could be used anywhere, regardless of the system used. I understand that maintaining a standard of wire color codes is important for tracing and troubleshooting purposes. From: Kevin Stover To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Cc: Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 18:50:46 -0500 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment The standards go thusly. TIA/EIA 568-A (T568A) Pin 1 - white / green stripe Pin 2 - green Pin 3 - white / orange stripe Pin 4 - blue Pin 5 - white / blue stripe pin 6 - orange pin 7 - white / brown stripe pin 8 - brown TIA/EIA 568-B (T568B) Pin 1 - white / orange stripe Pin 2 - orange Pin 3 - white / green stripe Pin 4 - blue Pin 5 - white / blue stripe Pin 6 - green Pin 7 - white / brown stripe Pin 8 - brown -- Dave Robertson KD1NA ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to daleputnam at hotmail.com From kd1na363 at gmail.com Mon May 9 10:18:14 2016 From: kd1na363 at gmail.com (David Robertson) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 10:18:14 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft, Other equipment review. Message-ID: I noticed many complaints about other non elecraft equipment mentioned on this forum. I feel that commenting on non Elecraft equipment here is a good way of propagate interesting information. Care must be taken to not dwell on this topic too long but a brief mention of other equipment I think makes this forum interesting. 73 -- Dave Robertson KD1NA From ingerassociates at cox.net Mon May 9 10:54:24 2016 From: ingerassociates at cox.net (David Inger) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 07:54:24 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] FS: Elecraft K2/100 Message-ID: <45183C0F3B1C4F988A6350F284F8D678@DELLXPS> I have decided to temporarily suspend my for sale offer. I want to make sure that the radio is up to spec in everyway before I can feel confident that the new buyer is getting what he/she pays for. Tnx es 73 de K6SBA David in Santa Barbara, CA I have an extremely clean K2 (100 w version) for sale. I am the second owner. The construction is very professional, and the radio functions without any problems. It is a 3100+ serial number with the Rev "B" mainboard. All additional Elecraft updates have been made to bring the radio up to current standards. Installed options (in addition to the 100-w module) include the KSB2 SSB adapter, KNB2 noise blanker and KAF2 audio filter and real-time clock. The VFO has been fitted with a slightly larger and more comfortable knob with a rubber ring and finger hole. The radio has never been around tobacco smoke. I will also include a Kenwood MC-43S hand mic, a serial cable for pc-to-radio interface, and a fused power cord fitted with Anderson PowerPoles. All manuals and upgrade documents are included. Pictures are available. This is a great performing radio! $700 firm plus shipping from Santa Barbara, CA. 73 de K6SBA David in Santa Barbara From kd1na363 at gmail.com Mon May 9 11:42:48 2016 From: kd1na363 at gmail.com (David Robertson) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 11:42:48 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] elecraft,RJ45 Standard Message-ID: David Robertson 9:55 AM (1 hour ago) to kenin.stover, Elecraft Kevin, Thanks for the information on the RJ45 standards. what confuses me is there are 6 pair of wires in a CAT 5 cable. In the standards you list, the only difference is the placement of the Orange/Orange-White and Green/Green-White pair of wires. As long as you maintain the same standard or a standard you create on BOTH ends of the CAT 5 cable this cable could be used anywhere, regardless of the system used. I understand that maintaining a standard of wire color codes is important for tracing and troubleshooting purposes. From: Kevin Stover To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Cc: Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 18:50:46 -0500 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment The standards go thusly. TIA/EIA 568-A (T568A) Pin 1 - white / green stripe Pin 2 - green Pin 3 - white / orange stripe Pin 4 - blue Pin 5 - white / blue stripe pin 6 - orange pin 7 - white / brown stripe pin 8 - brown TIA/EIA 568-B (T568B) Pin 1 - white / orange stripe Pin 2 - orange Pin 3 - white / green stripe Pin 4 - blue Pin 5 - white / blue stripe Pin 6 - green Pin 7 - white / brown stripe Pin 8 - brown -- Dave Robertson KD1NA From wd8qwr at sbcglobal.net Mon May 9 11:52:28 2016 From: wd8qwr at sbcglobal.net (Philip Carter) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 15:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] elecraft,RJ45 Standard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <688517974.955669.1462809149000.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Close. There are 4 pair. On Monday, May 9, 2016 11:42 AM, David Robertson wrote: David Robertson 9:55 AM (1 hour ago) to kenin.stover, Elecraft Kevin, Thanks for the information on the RJ45 standards. what confuses me is there are 6 pair of wires in a CAT 5 cable. In the standards you list, the only difference is the placement of the Orange/Orange-White and Green/Green-White pair of wires. As long as you maintain the same standard or a standard you create on BOTH ends of the CAT 5 cable this cable could be used anywhere, regardless of the system used. I understand that maintaining a standard of wire color codes is important for tracing and troubleshooting purposes. From: Kevin Stover To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Cc: Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 18:50:46 -0500 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment The standards go thusly. TIA/EIA 568-A (T568A) Pin 1 - white / green stripe Pin 2 - green Pin 3 - white / orange stripe Pin 4 - blue Pin 5 - white / blue stripe pin 6 - orange pin 7 - white / brown stripe pin 8 - brown TIA/EIA 568-B (T568B) Pin 1 - white / orange stripe Pin 2 - orange Pin 3 - white / green stripe Pin 4 - blue Pin 5 - white / blue stripe Pin 6 - green Pin 7 - white / brown stripe Pin 8 - brown -- Dave Robertson KD1NA ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wd8qwr at sbcglobal.net From KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com Mon May 9 12:41:43 2016 From: KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 09:41:43 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] elecraft,RJ45 Standard In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3c0553da-4e93-ef5b-52aa-9bce4f9afab2@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Uh, maybe not. If we're talking DC levels, sure, no problem. Low rate signalling just won't matter. At audio levels, the shielding from twisting the wires might be helpful. If we're actually using them for Ethernet, then the twisted pairs aren't wires, they're transmission lines. 100 megabit ethernet is running at 100 megahertz. Wire the cable randomly and you don't have twisted pairs (transmission lines) at VHF frequencies (or above). 73 -- Lynn On 5/9/2016 8:42 AM, David Robertson wrote: > As long as you maintain the same standard or a standard you create on BOTH > ends of the CAT 5 cable this cable could be used anywhere, regardless of > the system used. I understand that maintaining a standard of wire color > codes is important for tracing and troubleshooting purposes. From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Mon May 9 13:03:27 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 10:03:27 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] elecraft,RJ45 Standard In-Reply-To: <3c0553da-4e93-ef5b-52aa-9bce4f9afab2@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> References: <3c0553da-4e93-ef5b-52aa-9bce4f9afab2@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Message-ID: <5730C2DF.3080206@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Mon,5/9/2016 9:41 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: > If we're talking DC levels, sure, no problem. Low rate signalling > just won't matter. You're missing the fact that although these conductors INTENTIONALLY carry DC and low rate signals, they also can PICK UP RF and AF noise. Twisted pair, when used to carry a signal, is at least as powerful at rejecting RF and AF noise pickup as coax, but ONLY if the pair is dedicated to a circuit. That only happens when both ends of the cable are correctly wired. That is, OR and OR/WH will reject noise, but OR and GN will NOT. > > At audio levels, the shielding from twisting the wires might be helpful. It is VERY helpful. > > If we're actually using them for Ethernet, then the twisted pairs > aren't wires, they're transmission lines. 100 megabit ethernet is > running at 100 megahertz. Right. AND -- they are transmission lines at RF frequencies even when the INTENDED signal is AF or even DC. THAT'S HOW they reject RF and AF noise. > > Wire the cable randomly and you don't have twisted pairs (transmission > lines) at VHF frequencies (or above). And you don't have them at AF or HF either. Bottom line -- CAT5 and similar cables are excellent for control wiring and even for RF, but we must ALWAYS wire them so that every circuit uses a pair. Wiring them any other way is a recipe for noise and RFI. 73, Jim K9YC > > 73 -- Lynn > > On 5/9/2016 8:42 AM, David Robertson wrote: >> As long as you maintain the same standard or a standard you create on >> BOTH >> ends of the CAT 5 cable this cable could be used anywhere, regardless of >> the system used. From rv6amark at yahoo.com Mon May 9 13:10:24 2016 From: rv6amark at yahoo.com (=?utf-8?B?TWFyaywgYXJzOiBLRTZCQg==?=) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 17:10:24 GMT Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 internal battery problems Message-ID: <000f426f.4b6e0c3749533b37@yahoo.com> Re:?With increasing cycle count, individual cells are showing differences. Cycle count agravates the differences, but the most common CAUSE is a failure to FULLY CHARGE the series set of cells, so some of the cells never reach their FULLY CHARGED voltage. ?Damage occurs during use as the cells are discharged. ?The cells that were not fully charged reach the damaging voltage of <1.0V per cell first, possibly before the KX3 low voltage warning is set. ?Below that voltage, they will be damaged and will never again have the capacity of the good cells. Re: ?If?you don't charge them individually, these differences are getting bigger, as?reflected by the numbers you posted. Individual cell charging is one way to prevent damage, but the KXBC3 can manage this problem as well, saving the cost and trouble of an external charger. ?When charged with a properly designed constant current charger such as the KXBC3, NiMH cells in a series configuration are self leveling. ?Cells with a higher charge will reach their fully charged CHARGING voltage of about 1.5v per cell (varies somewhat with temperature, charge rate, etc.) and then level off. ?The lower voltage cells will then continue to rise to a similar FULLY CHARGED voltage if they are healthy. ?Eventually they will all be at the CHARGING voltage. ?With the KXBC3's 200mA rate, 12 hours will usually do it for 2000mAH cells, and 16 hours for 2500mAH cells. I do not mean to knock external chargers or battery managers. ?I am simply saying that YOU, along with the KXBC3, can learn to manage rechargable NiMH cells. ?This hobby is about learning, isn't it? ?BTW, I just checked my 3.5 yr. old Eneloop 2000 LSD cells, and they are all within .04V resting. ?I never disharge the set below 8.8V. Mark, ars: KE6BB From gio.flynn at gmail.com Mon May 9 14:53:26 2016 From: gio.flynn at gmail.com (John Flynn) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 14:53:26 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD1 as a sideswiper? Message-ID: Good Day Everyone, Is it possible to re-jigger the KXPD1 as a sideswiper (not a straight key)? Tnx es 72/73, John K4ARQ -- John Flynn Tallahassee, Florida USA From donwilh at embarqmail.com Mon May 9 15:06:18 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 15:06:18 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD1 as a sideswiper? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0a0c5056-cf5e-b7d0-55eb-b5584e2c8780@embarqmail.com> John, Certainly, but it is a permanent change (until changed back) and requires soldering. Leave the wire to the dot side board (the one connected to the tip of the plug - use your ohmmeter) connected, but remove the wire to the dash side (goes to the ring). Then wire the dot side and dash side boards together. Set the INP menu to HND and swipe away. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/9/2016 2:53 PM, John Flynn wrote: > Good Day Everyone, > > Is it possible to re-jigger the KXPD1 as a sideswiper (not a straight key)? > > From ormandj at corenode.com Mon May 9 16:18:02 2016 From: ormandj at corenode.com (David Orman) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 15:18:02 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 setting up digital In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Agreed re: Mic button setting, that happens to me all the time. Would it be possible to have it turn it off when switching to DATA A? Also, widening the filter BW out to the full 4kHz at the same time? Perhaps there's other uses of DATA A I don't know that might make these requests invalid, so forgive me if so. :) Thanks! David / K5DJO On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Erlend Grimseid wrote: > When i tested, mic bias remained on when switching to data mode. And it > is annoying because when using the radio with an smart phone the plug is > not recognised as an 4pole plug for some reason. > > Also mic button settings can't be changed. So every time i go from hand > mic to phone I forget, the stereo plug triggers the ptt, and I have to > switch back to ssb to make changes. > > I wold love to be able to change mic settings in data mode. And that mic > level, button and bias settings to be stored pr mode. > > Something for the next firmware maybe? > > 73 > La4tta > Erlend. > 8. mai 2016 4:47 p.m. skrev "Bill Frantz" : > > > I had to set up my KX3 for digital operation with a SignaLink USB from > > scratch again, and I had to learn the same "features" which tripped me up > > the last time over again the hard way. I'm documenting them here in > hopes I > > won't forget them the next time. (I'm also writing them on a file card to > > keep with the radio.) > > > > (1) High levels of Mic input show up as zero signal. The fix is to always > > start from 0 and move slowly up in levels. Mic level 5 seems to be about > > right for my setup. > > > > (2) You can't be in a digital mode (DATA A etc.) and turn off mic bias. > > All you get is N/A. It seems to be a poor idea to DC bias the isolation > > transformers in the SignaLink, so you really need it off. And of course, > > voice modes won't work until you turn mic bias back on again. > > > > In an ideal world, the level, bias, and VOX settings would be saved > > separately for Data and Voice modes. (And the radio would recognize that > > mic input settings need to be made in data modes.) > > > > But the results are worth it. From New Hampshire, I've been able to work > > 14 DXCCs including an ATNO. I also had a long rag chew with AE5ZA in > Texas, > > all on 20M PSK31/63 with only a few hours of operating. > > > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Bill Frantz |"We used to quip that "password" is the most common > > 408-356-8506 | password. Now it's 'password1.' Who said users > > haven't > > www.pwpconsult.com | learned anything about security?" -- Bruce Schneier > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to egrimseid at gmail.com > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ormandj at corenode.com > From ho13dave at gmail.com Mon May 9 16:21:18 2016 From: ho13dave at gmail.com (dave) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 15:21:18 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] elecraft,RJ45 Standard In-Reply-To: <5730C2DF.3080206@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <3c0553da-4e93-ef5b-52aa-9bce4f9afab2@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> <5730C2DF.3080206@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <65de846b-638d-43ac-3f80-91ab3ce9b7e9@gmail.com> > You're missing the fact that although these conductors INTENTIONALLY > carry DC and low rate signals, they also can PICK UP RF and AF noise. > Twisted pair, when used to carry a signal, is at least as powerful at > rejecting RF and AF noise pickup as coax, but ONLY if the pair is > dedicated to a circuit. And also only if the twisted pair is properly terminated in a balanced termination - on both ends. I was field engineer for Bell. I was sometimes totally amazed at just how good twisted pair are at rejecting noise. As good as coax, if not better. But . . . the telco pairs are terminated in carefully balanced terminations. I don't think the typical ham/audio install is so carefully designed. They may be, I don't know for sure. I suspect the terminations are, for the most part, unbalanced. There will still be some rejection of noise, maybe a good deal. But not as good as if properly terminated. I have used twisted pair here with good success, but there is some luck involved if the pairs are not properly terminated. 73 de dave ab9ca/4 On 5/9/16 12:03 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > On Mon,5/9/2016 9:41 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: >> If we're talking DC levels, sure, no problem. Low rate signalling >> just won't matter. > > You're missing the fact that although these conductors INTENTIONALLY > carry DC and low rate signals, they also can PICK UP RF and AF noise. > Twisted pair, when used to carry a signal, is at least as powerful at > rejecting RF and AF noise pickup as coax, but ONLY if the pair is > dedicated to a circuit. That only happens when both ends of the cable > are correctly wired. That is, OR and OR/WH will reject noise, but OR > and GN will NOT. >> >> At audio levels, the shielding from twisting the wires might be >> helpful. > > It is VERY helpful. > >> >> If we're actually using them for Ethernet, then the twisted pairs >> aren't wires, they're transmission lines. 100 megabit ethernet is >> running at 100 megahertz. > > Right. AND -- they are transmission lines at RF frequencies even when > the INTENDED signal is AF or even DC. THAT'S HOW they reject RF and > AF noise. > >> >> Wire the cable randomly and you don't have twisted pairs >> (transmission lines) at VHF frequencies (or above). > > And you don't have them at AF or HF either. > > Bottom line -- CAT5 and similar cables are excellent for control > wiring and even for RF, but we must ALWAYS wire them so that every > circuit uses a pair. Wiring them any other way is a recipe for noise > and RFI. > > 73, Jim K9YC >> >> 73 -- Lynn >> From nc3z at outlook.com Mon May 9 16:33:43 2016 From: nc3z at outlook.com (NC3Z Gary) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 20:33:43 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 setting up digital In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I use the macros in DXLabs to do just this, when I select a digital mode macro it turns off the Mic PTT button and sets my BW to 4KHz (actually I set one DXL Commander button to toggle through a few select BWs). Another Macro for SSB sets it back to the settings I want to use for SSB. Probably could do this with the PF keys or the Macros on the PX3. Gary Mitchelson NC3Z/4 Pamlico County, NC FM15 On 09-May-16 16:18, David Orman wrote: > Agreed re: Mic button setting, that happens to me all the time. Would it be > possible to have it turn it off when switching to DATA A? Also, widening > the filter BW out to the full 4kHz at the same time? Perhaps there's other > uses of DATA A I don't know that might make these requests invalid, so > forgive me if so. :) > > Thanks! > David / K5DJO > > From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Mon May 9 18:04:59 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 15:04:59 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] elecraft,RJ45 Standard In-Reply-To: <65de846b-638d-43ac-3f80-91ab3ce9b7e9@gmail.com> References: <3c0553da-4e93-ef5b-52aa-9bce4f9afab2@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> <5730C2DF.3080206@audiosystemsgroup.com> <65de846b-638d-43ac-3f80-91ab3ce9b7e9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5731098B.2080302@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Mon,5/9/2016 1:21 PM, dave wrote: > > > You're missing the fact that although these conductors INTENTIONALLY > > carry DC and low rate signals, they also can PICK UP RF and AF noise. > > Twisted pair, when used to carry a signal, is at least as powerful at > > rejecting RF and AF noise pickup as coax, but ONLY if the pair is > > dedicated to a circuit. > > And also only if the twisted pair is properly terminated in a balanced > termination - on both ends. I was field engineer for Bell. I was > sometimes totally amazed at just how good twisted pair are at > rejecting noise. As good as coax, if not better. Not true. Yes, cancellation can be improved by balanced termination, but ONLY if balanced broadband -- that is, DC to the highest frequencies of the interference. But twisted pair is VERY effective at rejecting magnetic coupling even when the interface is unbalanced. I learned this from solving a severe RFI problem problem with the serial interface to my K2, way back in 2003. I was using the "official"Elecraft cable, which was parallel conductors, NOT twisted, and my TX antenna was a top-loaded end fed wire with a tuner in the shack for 160 and 80M. At only 12W, coupling to ,my computer via that serial cable caused it to lock up. I replaced that parallel wire cable with CAT5, using one pair per circuit, and making the return connection to the DB9 shells, NOT to the "ground" pin (to solve Pin One Problems). Once I had changed the cable, I could run my Ten Tec Titan to legal limit with no interference up to 17 MHz when I intentionally loaded that same antenna on all the HF bands. If I used shielded twisted pair, I could run full power up through 10M. > > But . . . the telco pairs are terminated in carefully balanced > terminations. I don't think the typical ham/audio install is so > carefully designed. They may be, I don't know for sure. I suspect the > terminations are, for the most part, unbalanced. There will still be > some rejection of noise, maybe a good deal. But not as good as if > properly terminated. See my comments above. > > I have used twisted pair here with good success, but there is some > luck involved if the pairs are not properly terminated. I have yet to see a situation where twisted pair made things worse, and it often solves serious RFI issues. In the pro audio world, it is well known, for example, that loudspeaker cables should ALWAYS be twisted pair, NEVER parallel wires (zip cord, glorified or not). Sadly, the high futility folks have never learned that, and most hams haven't either. Audio power amps use feedback around the output stage to reduce distortion, a technique first developed more than 100 years ago (by Bell Labs, I think). RF on the speaker cable will couple via that feedback network to the input of the audio output stage. Replacing the zip cord with twisted pair is an effective fix. Nearly 40 years ago, Prof R. A. Greiner at U of Wis published an AES paper that showed that for all practical purposes, the only thing that matters with loudspeaker cable is DC resistance, and that lower is better. The sole exception was with a VERY rare type of loudspeaker that had a very low impedance at high audio frequencies. The impedance of 99.99% of loudspeakers increases rapidly with increasing frequency. His paper can be found in the Journal of AES in any decent university's technical library. And yes, one of the cables he considered was sold under the Kimber name, which was mfd on the concept of litz wire. :) 73, Jim K9YC From KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com Mon May 9 18:10:09 2016 From: KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 15:10:09 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] elecraft,RJ45 Standard In-Reply-To: <5730C2DF.3080206@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <3c0553da-4e93-ef5b-52aa-9bce4f9afab2@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> <5730C2DF.3080206@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: On 5/9/2016 10:03 AM, Jim Brown wrote: >> At audio levels, the shielding from twisting the wires might be helpful. > > It is VERY helpful. When I said *might* I was being slightly sarcastic. If a cable has an RJ-45 on each end, there is always a chance in a modern home that the cable is going to carry ethernet or find itself in some other spot that matters. In fact, Murphy is going to see to it that out of all of the cables available, you'll grab that one. 73 -- Lynn From steve at g4gxl.com Mon May 9 18:17:12 2016 From: steve at g4gxl.com (Steve, G4GXL) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 23:17:12 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] Last call for FDIM registration Message-ID: FDIM (Four Days In May) is just next week ! It is the annual convention of the QRP ARCI (QRP Amateur Radio Club International) - you do not have to be a member to attend. FDIM happens in Dayton, OH and just happens to run the same week as the Dayton Hamvention ! Online booking will close very soon - if you have not booked your place please do so now. Details of FDIM are at www.qrparci.org/fdim - you can register online. Remember FDIM 2015 was a sell out ! Do not assume you can get a ticket at the event - fire regulations mean we have strict attendance limits. This year speakers include - - *Eric Swartz, WA6HHQ (8.20am) *Elecraft - Shrinking the Multi-Mode HF Transceiver - *Scott Cowling, WA2DFI (9.00am) *WSPR and the Raspberry Pi - *Guy Hamblen, N7UN (10.00am) *2016 - The Year of the Portable Operator From IOTA to SOTA to NPOTA - *Paul Darlington, M0XPD (11.15am)* Occam's Scrip - the minimalist measurement mindset - *Mike Bryce, WB8VGE (2.00pm)* Troubleshooting and Repair Techniques - *Grayson Evans, TA2ZGE/KJ7UM (3.15pm) *Thermatron Homebrew Ideas and Techniques - *Rex Harper, W1REX (4.15pm) *The Worlds' Biggest Buildathon Every seminar visitor gets a free kit to build during the presentation - no tools required 73 Steve Fletcher, G4GXL -- QRP ARCI President - www.qrparci.org Facebook - www.facebook.com/qrparci Twitter - www.twitter.com/qrparci From eric at elecraft.com Mon May 9 19:21:59 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 16:21:59 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] elecraft,RJ45 Standard In-Reply-To: References: <3c0553da-4e93-ef5b-52aa-9bce4f9afab2@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> <5730C2DF.3080206@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: Folks - due to the large number of posts on this topic, let's end the thread at this time to give our other readers a rest. 73, Eric Moderator /elecraft.com/ ==== On 5/9/2016 3:10 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: > On 5/9/2016 10:03 AM, Jim Brown wrote: >>> At audio levels, the shielding from twisting the wires might be helpful. >> >> It is VERY helpful. > > When I said *might* I was being slightly sarcastic. > > If a cable has an RJ-45 on each end, there is always a chance in a modern home > that the cable is going to carry ethernet or find itself in some other spot > that matters. > > In fact, Murphy is going to see to it that out of all of the cables available, > you'll grab that one. > > 73 -- Lynn From ewthielking at gmail.com Mon May 9 22:56:06 2016 From: ewthielking at gmail.com (Eric Thielking) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 22:56:06 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [K2] No RCV audio... Message-ID: My K2 appears to have a receiver problem. Specifically, I don't hear any receive audio, unless navigating into the menu systems, at the 'OPT' section or the 'ATU' section. When those parts of the menu are active, receive audio can be heard. When one exists the menus, the audio falls off, and the s-meter indicates no apparent RF input. Is this a control problem (something wrong on control board)? Tests of K2-100 LP filters, and 1N5711 diodes in the SWR circuitry appear OK. This radio has up until now, worked fine. Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks Eric From donwilh at embarqmail.com Mon May 9 23:57:07 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 23:57:07 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [K2] No RCV audio... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <36030ecd-3b68-b2e2-b709-76030cbb1d30@embarqmail.com> Eric, That is indeed strange. Go to the secondary menu and see if Squelch might be turned on. I can't think of another reason at the moment. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/9/2016 10:56 PM, Eric Thielking wrote: > My K2 appears to have a receiver problem. Specifically, I don't hear any > receive audio, unless navigating into the menu systems, at the 'OPT' > section or the 'ATU' section. > > When those parts of the menu are active, receive audio can be heard. When > one exists the menus, the audio falls off, and the s-meter indicates no > apparent RF input. > > From GMuller885 at aol.com Tue May 10 00:25:28 2016 From: GMuller885 at aol.com (GMuller885 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 00:25:28 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3,P3,SPE 1.3kw amp and MicroHAM interface III Message-ID: <28ca57.1bbb0989.4462bcb8@aol.com> Ok all you great guys. I have a K3 which is hooked to my P3 thru the K3 RS-232 port which is normal and then from the P-3 to the CPU for logging. I now have a MicroHAM Interface III which also wants that RS-232 port. Will a RS 232 Y cable work? That is the first question. The second one is that the SPE 1.3KW wants to run off of the RS-232 from the P-3 but so does my logging Program. Will a RS-232 Y cable fix this issue. I know that the speed of the K-3 port is 48,000 baud. How will this effect the 9600 baud rate of the MicroHAM interface and the 48,000 baud rate input to the CPU for logging and the SPE 1.3KW amp? Gerald Muller K9GEM GMuller885 at aol.com From mzilmer at roadrunner.com Tue May 10 00:52:58 2016 From: mzilmer at roadrunner.com (Matt Zilmer) Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 21:52:58 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3,P3,SPE 1.3kw amp and MicroHAM interface III In-Reply-To: <28ca57.1bbb0989.4462bcb8@aol.com> References: <28ca57.1bbb0989.4462bcb8@aol.com> Message-ID: Try LPBridge, at www.telepostinc.com. It's a more-or-less virtual Y-cable. Read the docs first, though. You will probably be stuck with 9600 bps if you choose this path. 73, matt W6NIA == On 5/9/2016 9:25 PM, Jerry Muller via Elecraft wrote: > Ok all you great guys. > I have a K3 which is hooked to my P3 thru the K3 RS-232 port which is > normal and then from the P-3 to the CPU for logging. I now have a MicroHAM > Interface III which also wants that RS-232 port. Will a RS 232 Y cable > work? That is the first question. The second one is that the SPE 1.3KW wants > to run off of the RS-232 from the P-3 but so does my logging Program. Will > a RS-232 Y cable fix this issue. I know that the speed of the K-3 port is > 48,000 baud. How will this effect the 9600 baud rate of the MicroHAM > interface and the 48,000 baud rate input to the CPU for logging and the SPE > 1.3KW amp? > > Gerald Muller K9GEM > GMuller885 at aol.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to mzilmer at roadrunner.com -- Always store beer in a dark place. - R. Heinlein From wbmccarty at gmail.com Tue May 10 04:03:54 2016 From: wbmccarty at gmail.com (W B McCarty) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 01:03:54 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6 Message-ID: The Elecraft K3 is reported to be supported by RadioCom 6 in several places on Bonito's web site and elsewhere. However the K3 does not appear in the selectable list of radio drivers in the RadioCom 6 set up program. Does anyone know the trick to getting the K3 to work with Radio Com 6? I'm actually trying to get the KX3 to work with Radio Com 6. But it's* not* listed as a supported radio. So I figured I'd first try to get the K3 to work. If anyone knows the trick to getting the KX3 to work, if such exists, I'd very much like to know that. Thanks! Cheers, -- Bill McCarty Sent from my Cray CX1 supercomputer--I'm still saving for a CX2 From jperlick at ariacorp.com Tue May 10 05:14:02 2016 From: jperlick at ariacorp.com (John Perlick) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 04:14:02 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 with 2nd RCVR For Sale Message-ID: For Sale: K3/100 with the following options installed: 100 W internal amplifier KAT3 Internal Antenna Tuner KBPF3 Bandpass filter for continuous Receive Coverage KRX3 Second Receiver One 2.7KHz IF filter KIO3 Computer/Audio Interface KXV3A Transverter Interface KTCXO3-1 TXCO 1 ppm oscillator All manuals included Rarely do they come up for sale with the second RX. All in fine working condition, very clean throughout. Pix available. Asking $2400 plus shipping John K0UM jperlick at ariacorp.com From john at kk9a.com Tue May 10 06:54:27 2016 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 06:54:27 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3,P3,SPE 1.3kw amp and MicroHAM interface III Message-ID: I have used a Y to connect a KAT500/KPA500 and a MicroHAM DigikeyerII with no issues so it should work for you. John KK9A From: GMuller885 Tue May 10 00:25:28 EDT 2016 Ok all you great guys. I have a K3 which is hooked to my P3 thru the K3 RS-232 port which is normal and then from the P-3 to the CPU for logging. I now have a MicroHAM Interface III which also wants that RS-232 port. Will a RS 232 Y cable work? That is the first question. The second one is that the SPE 1.3KW wants to run off of the RS-232 from the P-3 but so does my logging Program. Will a RS-232 Y cable fix this issue. I know that the speed of the K-3 port is 48,000 baud. How will this effect the 9600 baud rate of the MicroHAM interface and the 48,000 baud rate input to the CPU for logging and the SPE 1.3KW amp? Gerald Muller K9GEM GMuller885 at aol.com From lists at subich.com Tue May 10 08:15:01 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 08:15:01 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3,P3,SPE 1.3kw amp and MicroHAM interface III In-Reply-To: <28ca57.1bbb0989.4462bcb8@aol.com> References: <28ca57.1bbb0989.4462bcb8@aol.com> Message-ID: <29354be3-c84a-d2f2-dc91-49610765b51c@subich.com> Use the parallel interface ("Yaesu") instead of serial. That will avoid the conflict between serial data at 38,400 bps for K3/P3 and computer/logger and the fixed 9600 bps of the Expert. Use an Elecraft "all 15" DB15HD Y connector (E980190) and the connections in the bottom half of the attached document (sent directly) from the original SPE Distributor in the USA. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/10/2016 12:25 AM, Jerry Muller via Elecraft wrote: > Ok all you great guys. > I have a K3 which is hooked to my P3 thru the K3 RS-232 port which is > normal and then from the P-3 to the CPU for logging. I now have a MicroHAM > Interface III which also wants that RS-232 port. Will a RS 232 Y cable > work? That is the first question. The second one is that the SPE 1.3KW wants > to run off of the RS-232 from the P-3 but so does my logging Program. Will > a RS-232 Y cable fix this issue. I know that the speed of the K-3 port is > 48,000 baud. How will this effect the 9600 baud rate of the MicroHAM > interface and the 48,000 baud rate input to the CPU for logging and the SPE > 1.3KW amp? > > Gerald Muller K9GEM > GMuller885 at aol.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > From kd1na363 at gmail.com Tue May 10 08:36:34 2016 From: kd1na363 at gmail.com (David Robertson) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 08:36:34 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft, RJ45 Standard. Message-ID: Kevin, Thanks for pointing out my typo. I meant 4 pairs. 73 -- Dave Robertson KD1NA From tomb18 at videotron.ca Tue May 10 09:36:35 2016 From: tomb18 at videotron.ca (tomb18) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 09:36:35 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6 Message-ID: Try Kenwood as a radio Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. - Original message - From: W B McCarty Date: 2016-05-10 4:03 AM (GMT-05:00) Date:2016-05-10 4:03 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Cc: Subject: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6The Elecraft K3 is reported to be supported by RadioCom 6 in several places on Bonito's web site and elsewhere. However the K3 does not appear in the selectable list of radio drivers in the RadioCom 6 set up program. Does anyone know the trick to getting the K3 to work with Radio Com 6? I'm actually trying to get the KX3 to work with Radio Com 6. But it's* not* listed as a supported radio. So I figured I'd first try to get the K3 to work. If anyone knows the trick to getting the KX3 to work, if such exists, I'd very much like to know that. Thanks! Cheers, -- Bill McCarty Sent from my Cray CX1 supercomputer--I'm still saving for a CX2 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tomb18 at videotron.ca From n7rjn at nobis.net Tue May 10 09:59:20 2016 From: n7rjn at nobis.net (Robert Nobis) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 06:59:20 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1B1F857C-BF7F-4D84-BCF2-482B7AD99CE4@nobis.net> According to the Bonito web site the Elecraft K3 is supported, but there is no indication that the KX3 is supported. 73, Bob Nobis - N7RJN n7rjn at nobis.net > On May 10, 2016, at 06:36, tomb18 wrote: > > Try Kenwood as a radio Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. - Original message - From: W B McCarty Date: 2016-05-10 4:03 AM (GMT-05:00) Date:2016-05-10 4:03 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Cc: Subject: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6The Elecraft K3 is reported to be supported by RadioCom 6 in several places > on Bonito's web site and elsewhere. However the K3 does not appear in the > selectable list of radio drivers in the RadioCom 6 set up program. > > Does anyone know the trick to getting the K3 to work with Radio Com 6? > > I'm actually trying to get the KX3 to work with Radio Com 6. But it's* > not* listed > as a supported radio. So I figured I'd first try to get the K3 to work. If > anyone knows the trick to getting the KX3 to work, if such exists, I'd very > much like to know that. > > Thanks! > > Cheers, > > -- > Bill McCarty > > Sent from my Cray CX1 supercomputer--I'm still saving for a CX2 > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to tomb18 at videotron.ca > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n7rjn at nobis.net > From dlrwild1 at verizon.net Tue May 10 10:40:17 2016 From: dlrwild1 at verizon.net (dlrwild1 at verizon.net) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 10:40:17 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] scammer on internet Message-ID: There is a scammer on the ham internet sites posing as KD8VLL and another call. He uses a Gmail account. He claims to be elderly, in a wheelchair and hard of hearing. Request payment only via USPS money order. He does not give you a phone number either. Be careful when buying or selling things on Eham.net, QTH.com or QRZ.com. I think the Elecraft Reflector is more secure and lesser known to these scammers. He claims to be located in Parksburg, WVA. Bob Wilderman, K3SRO dlrwild1 at verizon.net From tomb18 at videotron.ca Tue May 10 13:11:03 2016 From: tomb18 at videotron.ca (tomb18) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 13:11:03 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6 Message-ID: HiThe Kenwood protocol is the same as the Elecraft protocol for commands such as frequency, ?band etc. I would try using one of the Kenwood radios for the K3 and kx3. There's lots of equipment out there that will work if you do this and the software doesn't try to identify the radio.Tomva2fsq.com? Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.-------- Original message --------From: Robert Nobis Date: 2016-05-10 9:59 AM (GMT-05:00) To: tomb18 Cc: wbmccarty at gmail.com, Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6 According to the Bonito web site the Elecraft K3 is supported, but there is no indication that the KX3 is supported. 73, Bob Nobis - N7RJN n7rjn at nobis.net > On May 10, 2016, at 06:36, tomb18 wrote: > > Try Kenwood as a radio? Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. - Original message - From: W B McCarty Date: 2016-05-10 4:03 AM (GMT-05:00) Date:2016-05-10 4:03 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Cc: Subject: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6The Elecraft K3 is reported to be supported by RadioCom 6 in several places > on Bonito's web site and elsewhere. However the K3 does not appear in the > selectable list of radio drivers in the RadioCom 6 set up program. > > Does anyone know the trick to getting the K3 to work with Radio Com 6? > > I'm actually trying to get the KX3 to work with Radio Com 6. But it's* > not* listed > as a supported radio. So I figured I'd first try to get the K3 to work. If > anyone knows the trick to getting the KX3 to work, if such exists, I'd very > much like to know that. > > Thanks! > > Cheers, > > -- > Bill McCarty > > Sent from my Cray CX1 supercomputer--I'm still saving for a CX2 > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to tomb18 at videotron.ca > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n7rjn at nobis.net > From sales at elecraft.com Tue May 10 13:21:35 2016 From: sales at elecraft.com (Lisa Jones - Elecraft Sales) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 10:21:35 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Dayton Pre-Orders LAST CALL Message-ID: <5732189F.30605@elecraft.com> Last Call for Dayton Pre-orders. Note: Pre-orders are shipped to your hotel only. We bring VERY LIMITED stock to sell at Dayton. ( we do have to charge Dayton sales tax for items taken away from the booth). All stock brought to Dayton is sold on a first come, first serve basis. We will of course be taking orders at Dayton which normally ship shortly after Dayton if stock is available. Pre-Orders must be placed by the end of the day tomorrow. Note in the Special Instructions that it needs to arrive in Dayton by Friday May 20th. To place a Pre-Order on line: 1. Choose Different Billing/Shipping Address at check out. 2. Enter your credit card billing address and hotel shipping address. 3. Note the Special Instructions below. 4. If ordered by end of the day tomorrow (Wednesday) choose UPS Ground shipping as it can be easily tracked at the hotel 5. If ordered after end of the day tomorrow, please choose UPS 3- day or 2 -day shipping. You can also call us at 831 763 4211 to place the order if necessary. Thank you. We look forward to seeing you at the Dayton Hamvention. Lisa -- Lisa Jones Elecraft, Inc. (831) 763-4211 From nestoji at comcast.net Tue May 10 15:13:48 2016 From: nestoji at comcast.net (Jim Nestor) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 15:13:48 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Wanted K3/10 Message-ID: Haven't been on this reflector for awhile. I built one of the original K2s during the field test (SN 81) and still use it. I want to buy a clean K3/10. If you have one for sale, please email me at nestoji@ comcast.net. Thanks, Jim, WK8G Sent from my iPad From MyFord at nc.rr.com Tue May 10 15:34:21 2016 From: MyFord at nc.rr.com (MyFord at nc.rr.com) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 15:34:21 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Internal Mic Adapter kit wanted Message-ID: <7673FCCC-C747-4F29-A4E1-2C9CFC523036@nc.rr.com> Hi folks, I was trying to find an IMA kit that UNPCBS had made and sold. They sold out of all that they made. Hopefully, somebody on here might have one that they will sell. Also, if there is enough interest, UNPCBS will make another production run of the IMAs. Steve KI4EZL K2 Owner From ewthielking at gmail.com Tue May 10 16:12:44 2016 From: ewthielking at gmail.com (Eric Thielking) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 16:12:44 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [K2] No RCV audio... In-Reply-To: <36030ecd-3b68-b2e2-b709-76030cbb1d30@embarqmail.com> References: <36030ecd-3b68-b2e2-b709-76030cbb1d30@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: Don: Thanks for the help. The squelch is off. Taking the testing further, it appears that the CAL PLL fails (Info 232) when connected into the TP1 test port. The initial frequency I happen to see (when the test starts) is 11348. I happened to read an older post about this subject, and went down that road (as you had suggested). I have found the following results, when trying various things, namely: 1. Voltage Controlled Oscillator Readings. 80m 2.243V to 5.85 V over range of 3.5 to 4.0 40m 8.04V to 8.04V over range of 7.0 to 7.3 30m 2.505 to 2.973V over range of 10 to 10.15 20m 2.363 to 3.95V over range of 14 to 15 17m 3.113 to 3.310 over range of 18 to 18.2 15m 2.001 to 2.995 over range of 21 to 21.45 12m 3.90 to 4.26 over range of 24.8 to 25 10m 3.282 to 4.12 over range of 28 to 28.8 With the band switch set to 40m (7.000) TP1 reads 11348 Khz, rather than 11915, as discussed previously. TP3 reads 12094.35, and the range test passes (14.4 kHz). I guess it's not right that the VCO on 40m doesn't appear to change. Is that so? Am I heading in the right direction? Any pointers would be appreciated. Thanks Eric On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 11:57 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Eric, > > That is indeed strange. > Go to the secondary menu and see if Squelch might be turned on. > I can't think of another reason at the moment. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > > On 5/9/2016 10:56 PM, Eric Thielking wrote: > >> My K2 appears to have a receiver problem. Specifically, I don't hear any >> receive audio, unless navigating into the menu systems, at the 'OPT' >> section or the 'ATU' section. >> >> When those parts of the menu are active, receive audio can be heard. When >> one exists the menus, the audio falls off, and the s-meter indicates no >> apparent RF input. >> >> >> > From donwilh at embarqmail.com Tue May 10 16:31:49 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 16:31:49 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [K2] No RCV audio... In-Reply-To: References: <36030ecd-3b68-b2e2-b709-76030cbb1d30@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: Eric, Your problem seems to be with 40 meters alone. Do you have the K60XV option (or the Rework Eliminators) installed? If so, go to the secondary menu and check to see that the D19 menu parameter is set to "y". Without that option (or the Rework Eliminators), D19 should be "n". I suspect the Rework Eliminators are installed since your list of bands did not include 60 meters. If you did not build this K2, you might not know the answer. Look at the VFO area (near relays K13, K14 and K15) to see if D19 and D20 are installed - on K2s below SN3000 those varactors are mounted on the bottom of the board, remove the bottom cover to see them. If D19 and D20 are installed, do a 2nd check and find the value of C71 - it should be 120pF, and the D19 menu parameter must be set to "y". Without D19 and D20, the D19 menu must be set to "n". I surmise you have D19 and D20 installed and you did a Master Reset which leaves the D19 menu set to "n". If you did that reset, you will have to do not only a CAL PLL, but also a CAL FIL and set any menu items which pertain to installed options to the parameters which support those options. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/10/2016 4:12 PM, Eric Thielking wrote: > Don: > > Thanks for the help. The squelch is off. Taking the testing further, > it appears that the CAL PLL fails (Info 232) when connected into the > TP1 test port. The initial frequency I happen to see (when the test > starts) is 11348. > > I happened to read an older post about this subject, and went down > that road (as you had suggested). I have found the following results, > when trying various things, namely: > > 1. Voltage Controlled Oscillator Readings. > > 80m 2.243V to 5.85 V over range of 3.5 to 4.0 > 40m 8.04V to 8.04V over range of 7.0 to 7.3 > 30m 2.505 to 2.973V over range of 10 to 10.15 > 20m 2.363 to 3.95V over range of 14 to 15 > 17m 3.113 to 3.310 over range of 18 to 18.2 > 15m 2.001 to 2.995 over range of 21 to 21.45 > 12m 3.90 to 4.26 over range of 24.8 to 25 > 10m 3.282 to 4.12 over range of 28 to 28.8 > > With the band switch set to 40m (7.000) TP1 reads 11348 Khz, rather > than 11915, as discussed previously. TP3 reads 12094.35, and the range > test passes (14.4 kHz). > > I guess it's not right that the VCO on 40m doesn't appear to change. > Is that so? Am I heading in the right direction? Any pointers would > be appreciated. > > Thanks > Eric > > > > > > On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 11:57 PM, Don Wilhelm > wrote: > > Eric, > > That is indeed strange. > Go to the secondary menu and see if Squelch might be turned on. > I can't think of another reason at the moment. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > > On 5/9/2016 10:56 PM, Eric Thielking wrote: > > My K2 appears to have a receiver problem. Specifically, I > don't hear any > receive audio, unless navigating into the menu systems, at the > 'OPT' > section or the 'ATU' section. > > When those parts of the menu are active, receive audio can be > heard. When > one exists the menus, the audio falls off, and the s-meter > indicates no > apparent RF input. > > > > From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Tue May 10 16:48:31 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 13:48:31 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5732491F.3080701@triconet.org> Actually, Elecraft uses the Kenwood protocol. When I got my first K3 I told my logging program it was my 12-year-old TS-870. On 5/10/2016 10:11 AM, tomb18 wrote: > HiThe Kenwood protocol is the same as the Elecraft protocol for commands such as frequency, band etc. I would try using one of the Kenwood radios for the K3 and kx3. There's lots of equipment out there that will work if you do this and the software doesn't try to identify the radio.Tomva2fsq.com > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.-------- Original message --------From: Robert Nobis Date: 2016-05-10 9:59 AM (GMT-05:00) To: tomb18 Cc: wbmccarty at gmail.com, Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6 > According to the Bonito web site the Elecraft K3 is supported, but there is no indication that the KX3 is supported. > > 73, > > > Bob Nobis - N7RJN > n7rjn at nobis.net > > > From wbmccarty at gmail.com Tue May 10 17:23:13 2016 From: wbmccarty at gmail.com (W B McCarty) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 14:23:13 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6 In-Reply-To: <5732491F.3080701@triconet.org> References: <5732491F.3080701@triconet.org> Message-ID: Thanks for all the information! To my surprise, Bonito answered with lightning speed. Per Bonito, the specific Kenwood model to use with the K3 is the TS2000. I had tried the TS570 and TS870 without success before posting here. (But I was actually using a KX3, not a K3, as explained below; presumably a K3 would have worked, as stated to me by Bonito.) As I wrote the KX3 is not listed as officially supported. My hope was that the KX3 might be similar enough to the K3 that if the K3 worked the KX3 would also work. My thinking was that since the Kenwood driver works with the K3 then the driver can't be all that particular. However, specifying TS2000 as the radio did not work in the context of a USB connection between the KX3 and PC and nothing other than the PC attached to the Bonito dongle, which is a recommended configuration. There remains the possibility of making a serial connection between the KX3 and the Bonito dongle, which might do the trick. Doing so would require a custom cable with a DB-9 on one side and connections to the KX3's ACC1, ACC2, and phone out jacks on the other. Details are given in the entry pertaining to the K3 in the table at http://www.bonito.net/service/make_radio_list.php3?language=en&R1=LB#HAM . I did specifically request that Bonito support the KX3. Bonito has not responded to my request; I don't anticipate that they will do so. Before closing I should share my opinion that RadioCom is one of the hardest programs to configure and among the least reliable contemporary PC programs I've used. I put up with it because it needs to be configured from scratch only once and because when it does work I find it useful and convenient. I wouldn't want anyone to purchase the program based on my mention without first reading some of the many reviews available, including those on eHam.net , where at the time of this writing the program had received an overall score of 1.4/5 [sic]. Cheers, On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Wes wrote: > Actually, Elecraft uses the Kenwood protocol. When I got my first K3 I > told my logging program it was my 12-year-old TS-870. > > On 5/10/2016 10:11 AM, tomb18 wrote: > >> HiThe Kenwood protocol is the same as the Elecraft protocol for commands >> such as frequency, band etc. I would try using one of the Kenwood radios >> for the K3 and kx3. There's lots of equipment out there that will work if >> you do this and the software doesn't try to identify the >> radio.Tomva2fsq.com >> >> >> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.-------- Original message >> --------From: Robert Nobis Date: 2016-05-10 9:59 AM >> (GMT-05:00) To: tomb18 Cc: wbmccarty at gmail.com, >> Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6 >> According to the Bonito web site the Elecraft K3 is supported, but there >> is no indication that the KX3 is supported. >> >> 73, >> >> >> Bob Nobis - N7RJN >> n7rjn at nobis.net >> >> >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wbmccarty at gmail.com > -- Bill McCarty Sent from my Cray CX1 supercomputer--I'm still saving for a CX2 From w4rks73 at gmail.com Tue May 10 17:30:41 2016 From: w4rks73 at gmail.com (James Wilson) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 16:30:41 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] scammer on internet Message-ID: You may well be correct but, just out of curiosity, I did a search on QRZ and on AnyWho.com and found that there is, indeed a WD8VLL Michael D. Farnsworth 1205 West Virginia Ave Parkersburg, WV 76104 Do use caution. His phone number is Three Oh Four Four Eight Five Eight Oh Seven Four >There is a scammer on the ham internet sites posing as KD8VLL >and another call. He uses a Gmail account. From donwilh at embarqmail.com Tue May 10 17:41:31 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 17:41:31 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6 In-Reply-To: References: <5732491F.3080701@triconet.org> Message-ID: Elecraft does sell a DB-9 to 3.5mm cable to work between a serial port and the KX3. it is the KXSERa (3.5mm to DB9-F): Extra Cable 3.5mm to RS232 DB9-F for KX3. The DB9 connector is female, but if necessary you can add a gender changer. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/10/2016 5:23 PM, W B McCarty wrote: > There remains the possibility of making a serial connection between the KX3 > and the Bonito dongle, which might do the trick. Doing so would require a > custom cable with a DB-9 on one side and connections to the KX3's ACC1, > ACC2, and phone out jacks on the other. Details are given in the entry > pertaining to the K3 in the table at > http://www.bonito.net/service/make_radio_list.php3?language=en&R1=LB#HAM > . > > From john at kk9a.com Tue May 10 18:18:43 2016 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 18:18:43 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S 10684 DISPLAY BLANK Message-ID: When I had a defective DSP board in a K3S, Elecraft included a return USPS label. John KK9a Mike Dodd Fri May 6 22:23:55 EDT 2016 > The new board arrive just under 48 hrs. from when it was requested, > [...] > Unbelievable service from Elecraft and USPS. I will send the bad board back > to Elecraft Monday. I too had excellent support from Elecraft, receiving a replacement KAT3-A in two days. Kudos to Elecraft! Semi-related question: Does anyone know if it is possible to create a First Class parcel label on the USPS website? I have an account, and create Priority Mail labels all the time, but haven't found an option to go with First Class Parcel instead. Elecraft shipped me the ATU via First Class, and I wanted to return the defective one the same way, with a tracking number. I had to drive to the post office to do this, and the clerk there had no clue about creating First Class Parcel labels online. Thanks for any information on this. -- 73, Mike N4CF Louisa County, VA USA Elecraft K3s/100 Carolina Windom up 45' http://n4cf.mdodd.com From ron at cobi.biz Tue May 10 18:20:45 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 15:20:45 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] scammer on internet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005f01d1ab0a$32f1b8e0$98d52aa0$@biz> Interesting. The FCC does not recognize either WD8VLL or KD8VLL as a current or past call in use, nor is there a Michael among the Farnsworth names that do hold any sort of US license. Of course Farnsworth is interesting in that it's the name of the guy who invented electronic television (Philo Farnsworth). 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- You may well be correct but, just out of curiosity, I did a search on QRZ and on AnyWho.com and found that there is, indeed a WD8VLL Michael D. Farnsworth 1205 West Virginia Ave Parkersburg, WV 76104 Do use caution. His phone number is Three Oh Four Four Eight Five Eight Oh Seven Four >There is a scammer on the ham internet sites posing as KD8VLL >and another call. He uses a Gmail account. From mike at ve3yf.com Tue May 10 18:26:08 2016 From: mike at ve3yf.com (Mike VE3YF) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 22:26:08 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Serial Cable Message-ID: Hi: Does anyone happen to have a Serial Cable for the KAT500 Tuner that they are not using and willing to sell to me. I have a USB Cable, but at the moment a serial cable would work better for me. Tnx. 73 De Mike VE3YF http://www.ve3yf.com [http://www.ve3yf.com/] From donwilh at embarqmail.com Tue May 10 18:43:13 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 18:43:13 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Serial Cable In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <663e0f43-689a-0a35-2128-7793441e88c7@embarqmail.com> Mike, You can order one from Elecraft. Order the KXSERa (3.5mm to DB9-F): Extra Cable 3.5mm to RS232 DB9-F for KX3. It can be found in the KX3 or the KPA500 order listings. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/10/2016 6:26 PM, Mike VE3YF wrote: > Hi: > > Does anyone happen to have a Serial Cable for the KAT500 Tuner that they are not using and willing to sell to me. I have a USB Cable, but at the moment a serial cable would work better for me. Tnx. > > From augie.hansen at comcast.net Tue May 10 18:53:54 2016 From: augie.hansen at comcast.net (Augie "Gus" Hansen) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 16:53:54 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] scammer on internet In-Reply-To: <005f01d1ab0a$32f1b8e0$98d52aa0$@biz> References: <005f01d1ab0a$32f1b8e0$98d52aa0$@biz> Message-ID: <638036ae-497d-93d2-6b2c-e371af7ae191@comcast.net> On 5/10/2016 4:20 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > Interesting. The FCC does not recognize either WD8VLL or KD8VLL as a current > or past call in use, nor is there a Michael among the Farnsworth names that > do hold any sort of US license. QRZ.com shows three Michael Farnsworth matches, and KD8VLL (not WD8VLL) is one of them. And KD8VLL is found by the FCC call sign search. Gus Hansen KB0YH From KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com Tue May 10 19:19:03 2016 From: KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 16:19:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] scammer on internet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The key phrase is "posing as" -- a successful scan always requires some small amount of truth. Also "there is a scammer on the internet" is not news. There have been scammers on the internet since the 70's. On 5/10/2016 2:30 PM, James Wilson wrote: > You may well be correct but, just out of curiosity, I did a > > search on QRZ and on AnyWho.com and found that there is, > > indeed a WD8VLL > >> There is a scammer on the ham internet sites posing as KD8VLL >and another call. He uses a Gmail account. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kx3 at coldrockshotbrooms.com > From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Tue May 10 19:34:40 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 18:34:40 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Internal Mic Adapter kit wanted In-Reply-To: <7673FCCC-C747-4F29-A4E1-2C9CFC523036@nc.rr.com> References: <7673FCCC-C747-4F29-A4E1-2C9CFC523036@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: <57327010.2030009@mediacombb.net> I'd like to see the IMA available again. I'd also like to see the K2 MAB picked up by someone. Fixed level out (W3FPR) and CW tuning indicator (K6XX) and the IMA on one board. Sorry for the thread crap. On 5/10/2016 2:34 PM, MyFord at nc.rr.com wrote: > Hi folks, > > I was trying to find an IMA kit that UNPCBS had made and sold. They sold out of all that they made. Hopefully, somebody on here might have one that they will sell. > > Also, if there is enough interest, UNPCBS will make another production run of the IMAs. > > Steve > KI4EZL > K2 Owner > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevin.stover at mediacombb.net > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From esteptony at gmail.com Tue May 10 20:23:31 2016 From: esteptony at gmail.com (Tony Estep) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 19:23:31 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6 In-Reply-To: References: <5732491F.3080701@triconet.org> Message-ID: On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 4:23 PM, W B McCarty wrote: > ... I should share my opinion that RadioCom is one of the > hardest programs to configure and among the least reliable contemporary PC > programs I've used.... ============= A few years ago I bought and tried a Bonito program. At that time the decoding of nearly every mode was so error-filled as to be useless. I spent some time comparing it to other digital programs available at the time, especially that vintage of MixW. Finally I gave up. Hopefully, things have changed. Commercial-quality software is not as easy to develop as many enterpreneurially-minded programmers think it is. Bonito needed to have a lot of turnover in its senior development team. And to be fair, perhaps it has. Some of the other ham software providers have upgraded their capabilities with new and more skilled developers, and maybe the same is true of Bonito. But they left a bad impression with me. Tony KT0NY From donwilh at embarqmail.com Tue May 10 20:43:25 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 20:43:25 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6 In-Reply-To: References: <5732491F.3080701@triconet.org> Message-ID: <9739d5d6-b6f9-6d2e-5c86-61baa60784f9@embarqmail.com> Hi all, Fldigi remains as one of the premiere data mode applications. It is multi-platform and works well. It does not have all the 'pizazz" of other applications, but it works quite well and is free to use. Configuration via Hamlib or Rigcat is not difficult - read the instructions. Another application that will give you several other rig control functions is Win4K3. It does cost money for extended use, but you can try it for 30 days. Of course Ham Radio Deluxe will offer other capabilities, and I believe the free downlaod of version 5 is still available. There are others - DXLabs has a whole suite of applications and DX commander as well as other applications can do a variety of things for you. The DXLabs suite is freeware. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/10/2016 8:23 PM, Tony Estep wrote: > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 4:23 PM, W B McCarty wrote: > >> ... I should share my opinion that RadioCom is one of the >> hardest programs to configure and among the least reliable contemporary PC >> programs I've used.... > ============= > From eric at elecraft.com Tue May 10 21:07:37 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 18:07:37 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] scammer on internet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Folks - Let's take this OT thread off-list. 73, Eric Modulator /elecraft.com/ On 5/10/2016 4:19 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: > The key phrase is "posing as" -- a successful scan always requires some small > amount of truth. > > Also "there is a scammer on the internet" is not news. There have been > scammers on the internet since the 70's. > > On 5/10/2016 2:30 PM, James Wilson wrote: >> You may well be correct but, just out of curiosity, I did a >> >> search on QRZ and on AnyWho.com and found that there is, >> >> indeed a WD8VLL >> >>> There is a scammer on the ham internet sites posing as KD8VLL >and another >>> call. He uses a Gmail account. >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to kx3 at coldrockshotbrooms.com >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com > From rbajuk at gmail.com Wed May 11 01:44:17 2016 From: rbajuk at gmail.com (Robert Bajuk) Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 07:44:17 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] Need +12v or +5v on TX Message-ID: Hi, I am adding kind of RF limiter/protector to my my K3 signal path at the ANT1 input and need to switch a small relay between TX/RX line. I would like to keep protector circuit in small box inside the radio. Where would be the easiest point to "steal" '+12v or +5v on TX only (irrespective of the power settings, with or without KPA3). I know I could use signal from Key out jack (active low) but I would rather find a point inside the radio to switch relay with positive voltage and keep Key out free. 73 Robert, S57AW From rodenkirch_llc at msn.com Wed May 11 07:58:25 2016 From: rodenkirch_llc at msn.com (Jim Rodenkirch) Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 04:58:25 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] ID'ing small 4 pin male connector on the bottom of the KX3 Message-ID: <1462967905820-7617360.post@n2.nabble.com> OK - what is that 4 pin thingy for????? -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ID-ing-small-4-pin-male-connector-on-the-bottom-of-the-KX3-tp7617360.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From n1nk at cox.net Wed May 11 08:11:59 2016 From: n1nk at cox.net (Jim Spears) Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 08:11:59 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/P3/Expert/microHAM Message-ID: <007001d1ab7e$5242bef0$f6c83cd0$@cox.net> I have almost the same exact configuration as K9GEM except my microHAM box is a DigiKEYER 2. Couple comments: K3 port speed is 38.4k, not 48k This setup is not difficult but does take a couple Y adapters. I suggest that Gerald contact Dan at Expert Linears and have him build up a custom cable set which will make everything work FB. My configuration acts like a 1.3 KW transceiver. Jim/N1NK From kengkopp at gmail.com Wed May 11 09:24:17 2016 From: kengkopp at gmail.com (Ken G Kopp) Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 07:24:17 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] ID'ing small 4 pin male connector on the bottom of the KX3 In-Reply-To: <1462967905820-7617360.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1462967905820-7617360.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Are you asking about the connector for the keyer paddle assembly? 73 K0PP From Rodenkirch_LLC at msn.com Wed May 11 09:58:21 2016 From: Rodenkirch_LLC at msn.com (James Rodenkirch) Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 13:58:21 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] ID'ing small 4 pin male connector on the bottom of the KX3 In-Reply-To: References: <1462967905820-7617360.post@n2.nabble.com>, Message-ID: That beez it, Ken...to all ....I have them answer and thanks to all that responded... ________________________________ From: Ken G Kopp Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 7:24 AM To: James Rodenkirch JamesR; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ID'ing small 4 pin male connector on the bottom of the KX3 Are you asking about the connector for the keyer paddle assembly? 73 K0PP From n5ge at n5ge.com Wed May 11 10:10:46 2016 From: n5ge at n5ge.com (Amateur Radio Operator N5GE) Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 09:10:46 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 behaviour Message-ID: I've changed monitors on my P3 and everything is going well except that for some reason when I tune across the bands, the monitor display moves very fast when turning the main VFO across the bands. I know I'm missing something, but Ive spent the last two days trying to find why this is happening in the Elecraft manual and Fred Cady's P3 manual. Can someone point me to the solution? Many thanks. ARS N5GE From no9e at arrl.net Wed May 11 15:04:08 2016 From: no9e at arrl.net (Ignacy) Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 12:04:08 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K3,P3,SPE 1.3kw amp and MicroHAM interface III In-Reply-To: <29354be3-c84a-d2f2-dc91-49610765b51c@subich.com> References: <28ca57.1bbb0989.4462bcb8@aol.com> <29354be3-c84a-d2f2-dc91-49610765b51c@subich.com> Message-ID: <1462993448023-7617365.post@n2.nabble.com> I have Microham Station Master driving K3/P3, with one wire + ground going to 2k-fa. Logger32 sees Station Master. 2k-fa changes bands and adjust antenna tuner by frequency. K3/P3 are running at default speed. Works well except that toroid is required for the cable to 2k-fa. Ignacy, NO9E -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-SPE-1-3kw-amp-and-MicroHAM-interface-III-tp7617330p7617365.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From n2qt at yahoo.com Wed May 11 15:46:15 2016 From: n2qt at yahoo.com (Mark N2QT) Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 15:46:15 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3(s) Full duplex with 2nd RX ? Message-ID: <58D3FACD-9462-423A-8EEE-D30E5D84F7BD@yahoo.com> This came up as a possibility a couple years ago. I was wondering with the k3s new RF board and synthesizers if there is a chance for full duplex operation with the 2nd RX. Would make for an interesting possibility of single radio "SO2R" operation.... Mark. N2QT From wb4ooa at gmail.com Wed May 11 16:05:57 2016 From: wb4ooa at gmail.com (Ron Durie) Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 16:05:57 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S and or P3 FS LOADED Message-ID: <000401d1abc0$8891ebb0$99b5c310$@gmail.com> Elecraft K3S/100 #10684; Three months old; In Like New Condition. During the build, treated every connector pin with Caig De-Oxit solution, to prevent pin Oxidation; intermittent connectors; easy connector insertion; and low contact resistance. KTCXO3-1 High Stability Reference Oscillator. K3EXREF External Reference Oscillator Input. KBPF3A General Coverage Receive option. KAT3A Internal Antenna Tuner. KRX3A Sub Receiver; with KFL3A-2.7K SSB 5 Pole Filter. KDVR3 Digital Voice Recorder. KFL3A-2.7K SSB 5 Pole Filter KFL3B-FM FM 8 Pole Filter KFL3A-6K AM 8 Pole Filter KFL3A-2.8K SSB 8 Pole Filter KFL3A-500Hz 5 Pole Filter, for Digital modes. Includes Power-Pole Power cable; Allen wrenches; PA Jumper; and manuals. Total Kit cost: $4679.45 Price: $4100 Free shipping to CONUS. PayPal or Bank check. ============================================================== Elecraft P3 Panadapter #2710 $699.95 P3SVGA Video Adapter/FFT Processor option $289.95 P3TXMON Transmit Monitor Power & Waveform Display option $199.95 Total Kit cost: $1189.85 Price: $1000. Free shipping CONUS, PayPal or Bank Check. Price for both: $5000 Contact me off line: rond at kastanet.org Ron Durie WB4OOA Elecraft K3s-Line From kf0ur at radins.us Wed May 11 16:06:15 2016 From: kf0ur at radins.us (Shel Radin KF0UR) Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 13:06:15 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] New Product Message-ID: <1462997175933-7617368.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi all, Just wanted to let you know that the new K-Board from QRPworks is now available. It's a smart keyboard interface for the KX3 that is small and lightweight. It is used to create and send lots of messages and macros, with a wireless or wired USB keyboard. Plus more. The free Message Management Utility, which is used to create messages and macros on a PC or Mac, and download to the K-Board is also available. We'll be at a few conventions coming up (ARRL Rocky Mountain, Dayton Hamvention, Sea-Pac) and will be offering some package deals. Those deals are available now on our website www.QRPworks.com The full manual is now available on our site as well. Click on Support / Manuals. Hope to C U on the air. 73, Shel KF0UR & Steve KB3SII www.QRPworks.com -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/New-Product-tp7617368.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From kf0ur at radins.us Wed May 11 16:05:39 2016 From: kf0ur at radins.us (Shel Radin KF0UR) Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 13:05:39 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] New Product from QRPworks Message-ID: <1462997139740-7617367.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi all, Just wanted to let you know that the new K-Board from QRPworks is now available. It's a smart keyboard interface for the K3 / K3S that is small and lightweight. It is used to create and send lots of messages and macros, with a wireless or wired USB keyboard. Plus more. The free Message Management Utility, which is used to create messages and macros on a PC or Mac, and download to the K-Board is also available. We'll be at a few conventions coming up (ARRL Rocky Mountain, Dayton Hamvention, Sea-Pac) and will be offering some package deals. Those deals are available now on our website www.QRPworks.com The full manual is now available on our site as well. Click on Support / Manuals. Hope to C U on the air. 73, Shel KF0UR & Steve KB3SII www.QRPworks.com -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/New-Product-from-QRPworks-tp7617367.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ray at band.se Wed May 11 16:38:19 2016 From: ray at band.se (Raymund Band) Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 22:38:19 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] K1 - problem with KAT1 Message-ID: <011301d1abc5$0d8d5c10$28a81430$@band.se> I have just installed a KAT1 in a K1 with 4-bands filter board. The KAT1 bridge adjustment and power calibration were performed without difficulty. The K1 (serial number 25xx) has been used without any problems and the KAT1 has been used previously with a different 2-bands K1. Using Tune and testing into a good 50 ohm load, everything worked OK on 7, 10 and 14 MHz but 21 MHz showed a problem. After a long tune (about 1 sec), the display showed LO P and the combined load/power-meter showed 0.5 watt. Another known good 50 ohm load gave the same result. Removing the KAT1 showed that the K1 could easily give 6 watts on all bands, including 21 MHz. With the KAT1 re-installed and looking at the results of the tune on all four bands (7, 10, 14 & 21 MHz) on the ATU menu, the lowest 3 bands all showed L = 0.0, C = 00, which seems reasonable with a 50 ohm load. The highest band (21 MHz) showed L = 4.9 and C = 63. So something seems wrong in the KAT1. Can it be power measurement (D1 & D2 etc)? Ray / SM5XLP From WB4SON at gmail.com Wed May 11 17:03:03 2016 From: WB4SON at gmail.com (Bob) Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 17:03:03 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Interesting FW Upload issue with K3 (happy ending) Message-ID: Hi: I am curious if this is an indication of a programmable part wear out, or perhaps simply a timing issue between my K3 and computer. I was installing the 5.38 firmware update today in anticipation of installing the two new synthesizer hardware upgrades. The K3 utility found the latest software, connected without issue, and proceeded to do the MCU update to 5.38. However when it came time to the Front Panel Firmware, it failed, complaining that a retry count had been exceeded. The remainder of the update went just fine, with both of my existing synthesizers being successfully updated. The good news is that a retry of the update (Send All Firmware to K3) worked the second time around, but it still remarked on one retry being required. I have copied the log data that shows the problem, and again wonder if this was just bad luck, or an indication that the programmable part on my FPF is wearing out: K3 responded with revision 05.38 16:23:43 MCU firmware load is complete 16:23:43 Elecraft K3 Utility Revision 1.13.5.9 16:23:43 OS Version 6.2 Build 9200 16:23:43 K3 MCU revision 05.38. RS-232 speed 38400 bit/s. 16:23:48 Sending firmware file C:\Users\Robert\Desktop\K3\hfpf0125.hex to FPF 16:23:50 Retry 1 successful at address 0x00000450 16:23:51 Retry 1 successful at address 0x00000660 16:24:01 Retry 1 successful at address 0x00001B20 16:24:06 Retry 1 successful at address 0x00002460 16:24:09 Send FPF firmware failed at load address 0x000029E0 16:24:09 Ready 16:24:09 Total number of retries was 14 16:24:09 Highest number of retries for any block was 10 16:24:09 Error code 0xE2000044: Retry limit has been exhausted 16:24:09 FPF verification failed. Reload FPF. 16:24:09 Click "Close" to close this window Here is the log for the second (successful) attempt: 16:36:36 Sending firmware file C:\Users\Robert\Desktop\K3\hfpf0125.hex to FPF 16:37:06 Retry 1 successful at address 0x00003960 16:38:07 Waiting 6 seconds for reset to complete 16:38:13 Ready 16:38:13 Total number of retries was 1 16:38:13 Highest number of retries for any block was 1 16:38:13 Loaded FPF firmware revision 01.25 K3 responded with revision 01.25 16:38:13 FPF firmware load is complete 73, Bob, WB4SON From dick at elecraft.com Wed May 11 17:14:30 2016 From: dick at elecraft.com (Dick Dievendorff) Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 14:14:30 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Interesting FW Upload issue with K3 (happy ending) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <010301d1abca$1da5be80$58f13b80$@elecraft.com> This could be an intermittent communication problem. I'd look first at the serial port and USB to Serial adapter (if there is one). When the part wears out, my experience is that it continues to fail at the same address. My K3 S/N 00018 has had more firmware installs than anyone's with the exception of N6KR. Mine is still on its first MCU and FPF. 73 de Dick, K6KR -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 14:03 To: Elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] Interesting FW Upload issue with K3 (happy ending) Hi: I am curious if this is an indication of a programmable part wear out, or perhaps simply a timing issue between my K3 and computer. I was installing the 5.38 firmware update today in anticipation of installing the two new synthesizer hardware upgrades. The K3 utility found the latest software, connected without issue, and proceeded to do the MCU update to 5.38. However when it came time to the Front Panel Firmware, it failed, complaining that a retry count had been exceeded. The remainder of the update went just fine, with both of my existing synthesizers being successfully updated. The good news is that a retry of the update (Send All Firmware to K3) worked the second time around, but it still remarked on one retry being required. I have copied the log data that shows the problem, and again wonder if this was just bad luck, or an indication that the programmable part on my FPF is wearing out: K3 responded with revision 05.38 16:23:43 MCU firmware load is complete 16:23:43 Elecraft K3 Utility Revision 1.13.5.9 16:23:43 OS Version 6.2 Build 9200 16:23:43 K3 MCU revision 05.38. RS-232 speed 38400 bit/s. 16:23:48 Sending firmware file C:\Users\Robert\Desktop\K3\hfpf0125.hex to FPF 16:23:50 Retry 1 successful at address 0x00000450 16:23:51 Retry 1 successful at address 0x00000660 16:24:01 Retry 1 successful at address 0x00001B20 16:24:06 Retry 1 successful at address 0x00002460 16:24:09 Send FPF firmware failed at load address 0x000029E0 16:24:09 Ready 16:24:09 Total number of retries was 14 16:24:09 Highest number of retries for any block was 10 16:24:09 Error code 0xE2000044: Retry limit has been exhausted 16:24:09 FPF verification failed. Reload FPF. 16:24:09 Click "Close" to close this window Here is the log for the second (successful) attempt: 16:36:36 Sending firmware file C:\Users\Robert\Desktop\K3\hfpf0125.hex to FPF 16:37:06 Retry 1 successful at address 0x00003960 16:38:07 Waiting 6 seconds for reset to complete 16:38:13 Ready 16:38:13 Total number of retries was 1 16:38:13 Highest number of retries for any block was 1 16:38:13 Loaded FPF firmware revision 01.25 K3 responded with revision 01.25 16:38:13 FPF firmware load is complete 73, Bob, WB4SON ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to dick at elecraft.com From WB4SON at gmail.com Wed May 11 17:22:45 2016 From: WB4SON at gmail.com (Bob) Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 17:22:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Interesting FW Upload issue with K3 (happy ending) In-Reply-To: <010301d1abca$1da5be80$58f13b80$@elecraft.com> References: <010301d1abca$1da5be80$58f13b80$@elecraft.com> Message-ID: Hi Dick, Yeah, I'm willing to buy the intermittent comm issue -- I do use the Elecraft USB cable that came with my K3 #6171. I found it interesting that the other updates went just fine, while even the second attempt to update the FPF had a single retry (all other updates had to be installed again). Makes me wonder if the timing is a tad more critical for the FPF than the others. But as I said, it recovered nicely, so it was a happy ending. If you haven't worn out your's with all the uploads you do, then I have no doubt my K3 will outlive me. Thanks for all you do to make ham radio fun! 73, Bob, WB4SON On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Dick Dievendorff wrote: > This could be an intermittent communication problem. I'd look first at the > serial port and USB to Serial adapter (if there is one). > > When the part wears out, my experience is that it continues to fail at the > same address. > > My K3 S/N 00018 has had more firmware installs than anyone's with the > exception of N6KR. Mine is still on its first MCU and FPF. > > 73 de Dick, K6KR > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 14:03 > To: Elecraft > Subject: [Elecraft] Interesting FW Upload issue with K3 (happy ending) > > Hi: > > I am curious if this is an indication of a programmable part wear out, or > perhaps simply a timing issue between my K3 and computer. > > I was installing the 5.38 firmware update today in anticipation of > installing the two new synthesizer hardware upgrades. The K3 utility found > the latest software, connected without issue, and proceeded to do the MCU > update to 5.38. However when it came time to the Front Panel Firmware, it > failed, complaining that a retry count had been exceeded. The remainder of > the update went just fine, with both of my existing synthesizers being > successfully updated. > > The good news is that a retry of the update (Send All Firmware to K3) > worked > the second time around, but it still remarked on one retry being required. > > I have copied the log data that shows the problem, and again wonder if this > was just bad luck, or an indication that the programmable part on my FPF is > wearing out: > > K3 responded with revision 05.38 > 16:23:43 MCU firmware load is complete > 16:23:43 Elecraft K3 Utility Revision 1.13.5.9 > 16:23:43 OS Version 6.2 Build 9200 > 16:23:43 K3 MCU revision 05.38. RS-232 speed 38400 bit/s. > 16:23:48 Sending firmware file C:\Users\Robert\Desktop\K3\hfpf0125.hex to > FPF > 16:23:50 Retry 1 successful at address 0x00000450 > 16:23:51 Retry 1 successful at address 0x00000660 > 16:24:01 Retry 1 successful at address 0x00001B20 > 16:24:06 Retry 1 successful at address 0x00002460 > 16:24:09 Send FPF firmware failed at load address 0x000029E0 > 16:24:09 Ready > 16:24:09 Total number of retries was 14 > 16:24:09 Highest number of retries for any block was 10 > 16:24:09 Error code 0xE2000044: Retry limit has been exhausted > 16:24:09 FPF verification failed. Reload FPF. > 16:24:09 Click "Close" to close this window > > Here is the log for the second (successful) attempt: > > 16:36:36 Sending firmware file C:\Users\Robert\Desktop\K3\hfpf0125.hex to > FPF > 16:37:06 Retry 1 successful at address 0x00003960 > 16:38:07 Waiting 6 seconds for reset to complete > 16:38:13 Ready > 16:38:13 Total number of retries was 1 > 16:38:13 Highest number of retries for any block was 1 > 16:38:13 Loaded FPF firmware revision 01.25 > K3 responded with revision 01.25 > 16:38:13 FPF firmware load is complete > > > 73, Bob, WB4SON > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message > delivered to dick at elecraft.com > > From frantz at pwpconsult.com Wed May 11 17:27:50 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 14:27:50 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6 In-Reply-To: <9739d5d6-b6f9-6d2e-5c86-61baa60784f9@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: To add to Don's list for Mac users, RUMlogNG, by DL2RUM is a logging program. The main logger is oriented toward DXers, but there is a contest logging sub-program. It has integration with flgidi, and can bring the K3 internal PSK/RTTY decode/encode to the computer screen. It is available free from the app store, although there is a "donate" button which I suggest using if you like the program. 73 Bill AE6JV On 5/10/16 at 5:43 PM, donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) wrote: >Fldigi remains as one of the premiere data mode applications. >It is multi-platform and works well. It does not have all the >'pizazz" of other applications, but it works quite well and is >free to use. > >Configuration via Hamlib or Rigcat is not difficult - read the instructions. > >Another application that will give you several other rig >control functions is Win4K3. It does cost money for extended >use, but you can try it for 30 days. > >Of course Ham Radio Deluxe will offer other capabilities, and I >believe the free downlaod of version 5 is still available. > >There are others - DXLabs has a whole suite of applications and >DX commander as well as other applications can do a variety of >things for you. The DXLabs suite is freeware. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Ham radio contesting is a | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | contact sport. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | - Ken Widelitz K6LA / VY2TT | Los Gatos, CA 95032 From donwilh at embarqmail.com Wed May 11 18:11:58 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 18:11:58 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K1 - problem with KAT1 In-Reply-To: <011301d1abc5$0d8d5c10$28a81430$@band.se> References: <011301d1abc5$0d8d5c10$28a81430$@band.se> Message-ID: Ray, I would be highly suspicious of a relay that is not working properly. Whether that is the result of a poorly or unsoldered connection or because the relay is really bad is to be determined. That relay just was not operated on the other bands, but it happened to try to be operated on 15 meters during the tuning process. The relays on the KAT1 are latching types. By using the L0-L4 menu items and the C0-C5 as well as the N1 and N2 settings you can check the relay operation. First check to see if you hear a click when the relay is operated - note that for the L0 and C0 settings there should be no relay operated. The schematic shows the relays in the reset position. The capacitor relay checks are easy - when the relay is set, one lead of the capacitor will show continuity to ground. With C0, none of the capacitors will have continuity to ground. The check of the inductor relays is a little harder because the inductor itself will show a DC path, so lift one lead of all the inductors and then test across the inductor solder pads with your ohmmeter. The L0 setting should show an zero resistance across each of the inductor solder pads, as you select L1 thru L4, you should see the relay for that inductor open. If you don't want to lift a lead on the inductors, you can test by using the SWR indication as given in the KAT1 manual on page 14 near the bottom of the page. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/11/2016 4:38 PM, Raymund Band wrote: > I have just installed a KAT1 in a K1 with 4-bands filter board. The KAT1 > bridge adjustment and power calibration were performed without difficulty. > > > > The K1 (serial number 25xx) has been used without any problems and the KAT1 > has been used previously with a different 2-bands K1. Using Tune and testing > into a good 50 ohm load, everything worked OK on 7, 10 and 14 MHz but 21 MHz > showed a problem. After a long tune (about 1 sec), the display showed LO P > and the combined load/power-meter showed 0.5 watt. Another known good 50 ohm > load gave the same result. > > > > Removing the KAT1 showed that the K1 could easily give 6 watts on all bands, > including 21 MHz. > > > > With the KAT1 re-installed and looking at the results of the tune on all > four bands (7, 10, 14 & 21 MHz) on the ATU menu, the lowest 3 bands all > showed L = 0.0, C = 00, which seems reasonable with a 50 ohm load. > > The highest band (21 MHz) showed L = 4.9 and C = 63. So something seems > wrong in the KAT1. Can it be power measurement (D1 & D2 etc)? > > > > Ray / SM5XLP > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com > From nr4c at widomaker.com Wed May 11 19:12:06 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 19:12:06 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] ID'ing small 4 pin male connector on the bottom of the KX3 In-Reply-To: <1462967905820-7617360.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1462967905820-7617360.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <2765AB12-7ABF-46FE-92D7-8A1E411436CC@widomaker.com> CW Paddles. KX3PD. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 11, 2016, at 7:58 AM, Jim Rodenkirch wrote: > > OK - what is that 4 pin thingy for????? > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ID-ing-small-4-pin-male-connector-on-the-bottom-of-the-KX3-tp7617360.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From xtr348165 at xtra.co.nz Thu May 12 05:06:16 2016 From: xtr348165 at xtra.co.nz (paulb) Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 02:06:16 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Interesting FW Upload issue with K3 (happy ending) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1463043976464-7617377.post@n2.nabble.com> This sounds familiar A while ago updated a k3 using my laptop and usb to serial. The RS232 won't fit properly to the K3 so used a linking CAT-5E cable a couple of meters long. The update failed several times, not sure of exact cause, possible x-talk across the tx/rx pairs or unused wires. Replaced link cable with a very short CAT5E all %100 cheers Paul b ZL1AJY -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Interesting-FW-Upload-issue-with-K3-happy-ending-tp7617371p7617377.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ray at band.se Thu May 12 07:17:46 2016 From: ray at band.se (Raymund Band) Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 13:17:46 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] K1 - problem with KAT1 (Solved) Message-ID: <00ef01d1ac3f$e9754970$bc5fdc50$@band.se> Don, Thanks for the tip. I did a quick eyeball check on the board and sure enough pin 1 of K9 has never been soldered! It's not the first time that I have seen the round solder pad on a board missed like that. This KAT1 is at least third-hand, so it's surprising that neither the original builder nor the intermediate owners have experienced problems (or perhaps that's why it's been passed on!). 73, Ray / SM5XLP -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr?n: Don Wilhelm [mailto:donwilh at embarqmail.com] Skickat: den 12 maj 2016 00:12 Till: Raymund Band; Elecraft at mailman.qth.net ?mne: Re: [Elecraft] K1 - problem with KAT1 Ray, I would be highly suspicious of a relay that is not working properly. Whether that is the result of a poorly or unsoldered connection or because the relay is really bad is to be determined. That relay just was not operated on the other bands, but it happened to try to be operated on 15 meters during the tuning process. The relays on the KAT1 are latching types. By using the L0-L4 menu items and the C0-C5 as well as the N1 and N2 settings you can check the relay operation. First check to see if you hear a click when the relay is operated - note that for the L0 and C0 settings there should be no relay operated. The schematic shows the relays in the reset position. The capacitor relay checks are easy - when the relay is set, one lead of the capacitor will show continuity to ground. With C0, none of the capacitors will have continuity to ground. The check of the inductor relays is a little harder because the inductor itself will show a DC path, so lift one lead of all the inductors and then test across the inductor solder pads with your ohmmeter. The L0 setting should show an zero resistance across each of the inductor solder pads, as you select L1 thru L4, you should see the relay for that inductor open. If you don't want to lift a lead on the inductors, you can test by using the SWR indication as given in the KAT1 manual on page 14 near the bottom of the page. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/11/2016 4:38 PM, Raymund Band wrote: > I have just installed a KAT1 in a K1 with 4-bands filter board. The > KAT1 bridge adjustment and power calibration were performed without difficulty. > > > > The K1 (serial number 25xx) has been used without any problems and the > KAT1 has been used previously with a different 2-bands K1. Using Tune > and testing into a good 50 ohm load, everything worked OK on 7, 10 and > 14 MHz but 21 MHz showed a problem. After a long tune (about 1 sec), > the display showed LO P and the combined load/power-meter showed 0.5 > watt. Another known good 50 ohm load gave the same result. > > > > Removing the KAT1 showed that the K1 could easily give 6 watts on all > bands, including 21 MHz. > > > > With the KAT1 re-installed and looking at the results of the tune on > all four bands (7, 10, 14 & 21 MHz) on the ATU menu, the lowest 3 > bands all showed L = 0.0, C = 00, which seems reasonable with a 50 ohm load. > > The highest band (21 MHz) showed L = 4.9 and C = 63. So something > seems wrong in the KAT1. Can it be power measurement (D1 & D2 etc)? > > > > Ray / SM5XLP > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > donwilh at embarqmail.com > From w4sc at windstream.net Thu May 12 10:54:15 2016 From: w4sc at windstream.net (w4sc) Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 10:54:15 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Interesting FW Upload issue with K3 (happy ending) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <84D472BD8A0743F78D148FBCDCE30174@z22z28> I had the same issue with the P3. Built a P3 kit, and during the upgrading of the f/w, a failure occurred during FPGA code load. The 'boot loader' didn't work after that, and I could not initiate a forced recovery. Had to send P3 back to factory, under warranty. The factory reported the failure was caused an improperly programmed part. However, it worked for some of the upgrade. Ben W4SC -----Original Message----- From: Bob Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 5:03 PM To: Elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] Interesting FW Upload issue with K3 (happy ending) Hi: I am curious if this is an indication of a programmable part wear out, or perhaps simply a timing issue between my K3 and computer. I was installing the 5.38 firmware update today in anticipation of installing the two new synthesizer hardware upgrades. The K3 utility found the latest software, connected without issue, and proceeded to do the MCU update to 5.38. However when it came time to the Front Panel Firmware, it failed, complaining that a retry count had been exceeded. The remainder of the update went just fine, with both of my existing synthesizers being successfully updated. The good news is that a retry of the update (Send All Firmware to K3) worked the second time around, but it still remarked on one retry being required. I have copied the log data that shows the problem, and again wonder if this was just bad luck, or an indication that the programmable part on my FPF is wearing out: K3 responded with revision 05.38 16:23:43 MCU firmware load is complete 16:23:43 Elecraft K3 Utility Revision 1.13.5.9 16:23:43 OS Version 6.2 Build 9200 16:23:43 K3 MCU revision 05.38. RS-232 speed 38400 bit/s. 16:23:48 Sending firmware file C:\Users\Robert\Desktop\K3\hfpf0125.hex to FPF 16:23:50 Retry 1 successful at address 0x00000450 16:23:51 Retry 1 successful at address 0x00000660 16:24:01 Retry 1 successful at address 0x00001B20 16:24:06 Retry 1 successful at address 0x00002460 16:24:09 Send FPF firmware failed at load address 0x000029E0 16:24:09 Ready 16:24:09 Total number of retries was 14 16:24:09 Highest number of retries for any block was 10 16:24:09 Error code 0xE2000044: Retry limit has been exhausted 16:24:09 FPF verification failed. Reload FPF. 16:24:09 Click "Close" to close this window Here is the log for the second (successful) attempt: 16:36:36 Sending firmware file C:\Users\Robert\Desktop\K3\hfpf0125.hex to FPF 16:37:06 Retry 1 successful at address 0x00003960 16:38:07 Waiting 6 seconds for reset to complete 16:38:13 Ready 16:38:13 Total number of retries was 1 16:38:13 Highest number of retries for any block was 1 16:38:13 Loaded FPF firmware revision 01.25 K3 responded with revision 01.25 16:38:13 FPF firmware load is complete 73, Bob, WB4SON ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w4sc at windstream.net From n6kr at elecraft.com Thu May 12 13:03:43 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 10:03:43 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3S: How to adjust SSB receive bandwidth up to 4.0 kHz In-Reply-To: <24257809-3CC7-4E73-819F-DFB5AE3383C4@elecraft.com> References: <73FD885B-9C6F-4BC1-8F2E-BE9F80386654@elecraft.com> <05B19DDC-BAF8-409E-A4CC-BF7627FE6A9D@elecraft.com> <9CD86D46-736A-499B-93E0-F0F5FF0BFBB9@elecraft.com> <92F3A403-8934-4F48-A4B8-E3E32D8BB36B@elecraft.com> <9EB68651-999D-4F23-840E-CB3CE766ACB2@elecraft.com> <24257809-3CC7-4E73-819F-DFB5AE3383C4@elecraft.com> Message-ID: Hi all, The K3's SSB receive passband can be widened to as much as 4.0 kHz if you have a 6.0 kHz crystal filter. This is useful for ESSB in particular. However, there's a minor problem with the present firmware that requires a workaround (for now). The trick is that you have to have LO/HI CUT selected rather than SHIFT/WIDTH. If you select LO/HI CUT, then NORMalize the passband, you can adjust HI CUT to as high as 4.00, and the DSP's bandwidth will be set up accordingly. If you have WIDTH/SHIFT selected, you may only be able to get the DSP's bandwidth up to 3.50 kHz, even though the display says 4.00. (Barry, N1EU, discovered this idiosyncrasy. Thanks!) 73, Wayne N6KR From eastbrantwood at gmail.com Thu May 12 14:58:44 2016 From: eastbrantwood at gmail.com (Stephen Prior) Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 19:58:44 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] Bonito RadioCom 6 In-Reply-To: References: <9739d5d6-b6f9-6d2e-5c86-61baa60784f9@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: I can't speak highly enough of Rumlog. It has a very straightforward user interface, fantastic LOTW and Clublog integration and all the database searching tools are there if you need them. Yes, it's free, but it's so good that I made a donation too. 73 Stephen G4SJP On 11 May 2016 at 22:27, Bill Frantz wrote: > To add to Don's list for Mac users, RUMlogNG, by DL2RUM is a logging > program. The main logger is oriented toward DXers, but there is a contest > logging sub-program. It has integration with flgidi, and can bring the K3 > internal PSK/RTTY decode/encode to the computer screen. It is available > free from the app store, although there is a "donate" button which I > suggest using if you like the program. > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > On 5/10/16 at 5:43 PM, donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) wrote: > > Fldigi remains as one of the premiere data mode applications. It is >> multi-platform and works well. It does not have all the 'pizazz" of other >> applications, but it works quite well and is free to use. >> >> Configuration via Hamlib or Rigcat is not difficult - read the >> instructions. >> >> Another application that will give you several other rig control >> functions is Win4K3. It does cost money for extended use, but you can try >> it for 30 days. >> >> Of course Ham Radio Deluxe will offer other capabilities, and I believe >> the free downlaod of version 5 is still available. >> >> There are others - DXLabs has a whole suite of applications and DX >> commander as well as other applications can do a variety of things for >> you. The DXLabs suite is freeware. >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz | Ham radio contesting is a | Periwinkle > (408)356-8506 | contact sport. | 16345 Englewood Ave > www.pwpconsult.com | - Ken Widelitz K6LA / VY2TT | Los Gatos, CA 95032 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eastbrantwood at gmail.com > From frantz at pwpconsult.com Thu May 12 15:07:50 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 12:07:50 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3S: How to adjust SSB receive bandwidth up to 4.0 kHz In-Reply-To: Message-ID: While working in this part of the firmware, could 4K receive passband be made to work with the 13KHz FM filter as well? Thanks, Bill AE6JV On 5/12/16 at 10:03 AM, n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) wrote: >The K3's SSB receive passband can be widened to as much as 4.0 >kHz if you have a 6.0 kHz crystal filter. This is useful for >ESSB in particular. However, there's a minor problem with the >present firmware that requires a workaround (for now). > >The trick is that you have to have LO/HI CUT selected rather >than SHIFT/WIDTH. If you select LO/HI CUT, then NORMalize the >passband, you can adjust HI CUT to as high as 4.00, and the >DSP's bandwidth will be set up accordingly. > >If you have WIDTH/SHIFT selected, you may only be able to get >the DSP's bandwidth up to 3.50 kHz, even though the display >says 4.00. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz |"Insofar as the propositions of mathematics refer to 408-356-8506 | reality, they are not certain; and insofar they are www.pwpconsult.com | certain, they do not refer to reality.? -- Einstein From bob.novas at verizon.net Thu May 12 15:36:17 2016 From: bob.novas at verizon.net (Bob Novas) Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 15:36:17 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KPad and P3 Message-ID: <024701d1ac85$8de3a7f0$a9aaf7d0$@verizon.net> I'm really interested in the KPad, but specifically for use with the P3. The K3/K3S already has a nice knob! I like to use the P3's knob to tune to a signal and then push the P3 knob in to set the K3S receiver to that frequency. Most of the time I can very accurately hit as SSB signal, if I turn the P3 knob to the correct side of an SSB signal and simply assume that the carrier is at xxx0.0 kHz. But the P3 knob is small and that makes this hard to do. I think it would be great if you could do this with the KPad knob, and one of the KPad buttons. But, I called Elecraft and spoke to tech support and they said the KPad wasn't being programmed to work with the P3, but that this reflector was a great place to post feature requests. Do any others want to chime in and request this feature? Thanks, Bob - W3DK From lists at subich.com Thu May 12 15:43:59 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 15:43:59 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3S: How to adjust SSB receive bandwidth up to 4.0 kHz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <26f528b6-a555-c4c6-01dd-59959065993e@subich.com> On 5/12/2016 3:07 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: > While working in this part of the firmware, could 4K receive passband be > made to work with the 13KHz FM filter as well? 4 KHz receive passband *already works* with the FM filter. Simply set FC (shift) = 2.0 - 2.2 and dial in the desired bandwidth. The *only* reason that one does not get the full bandwidth is that shift is less that 1/2 the width. The actual bandwidth achieved with the K3 in shift - width mode is [FC (Shift) + BW/2] 73, ... Joe, W4TV From frantz at pwpconsult.com Thu May 12 16:11:08 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 13:11:08 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3S: How to adjust SSB receive bandwidth up to 4.0 kHz In-Reply-To: <26f528b6-a555-c4c6-01dd-59959065993e@subich.com> Message-ID: I guess I'm just not getting it. I am in DATA A mode with the 13KHz FM filter automatically selected. Following Wayne's directions, I put the bandwidth controls into Lo/Hi mode and hold NORM to normalize the passband. I then turn the Hi knob to max (4.00 shows) and the Lo know to minimum (0.00 shows). When I look at the bandwidth displayed in the waterfall on fldigi, the computer is getting audio from about 150Hz to 3000Hz. What am I doing wrong? I am using a Tascam UX-122 mkii as a "sound card". 73 Bill AE6JV On 5/12/16 at 12:43 PM, lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) wrote: > >On 5/12/2016 3:07 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: >>While working in this part of the firmware, could 4K receive passband be >>made to work with the 13KHz FM filter as well? > >4 KHz receive passband *already works* with the FM filter. Simply set >FC (shift) = 2.0 - 2.2 and dial in the desired bandwidth. The *only* >reason that one does not get the full bandwidth is that shift is less >that 1/2 the width. The actual bandwidth achieved with the K3 >in shift - width mode is [FC (Shift) + BW/2] > >73, > >... Joe, W4TV >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to frantz at pwpconsult.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz |"Web security is like medicine - trying to do good for 408-356-8506 |an evolved body of kludges" - Mark Miller www.pwpconsult.com | From w8fn at tx.rr.com Thu May 12 16:15:40 2016 From: w8fn at tx.rr.com (Randy Farmer) Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 15:15:40 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KPad and P3 In-Reply-To: <024701d1ac85$8de3a7f0$a9aaf7d0$@verizon.net> References: <024701d1ac85$8de3a7f0$a9aaf7d0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Myself! Having the ability to click to tune to a signal on the P3 without messing with the P3 front panel knob would be an EXCELLENT aid for both DXing (especially if you could do it with VFO B) and S&P contesting. 73... Randy, W8FN On 5/12/2016 2:36 PM, Bob Novas wrote: > I'm really interested in the KPad, but specifically for use with the P3. The > K3/K3S already has a nice knob! I like to use the P3's knob to tune to a > signal and then push the P3 knob in to set the K3S receiver to that > frequency. Most of the time I can very accurately hit as SSB signal, if I > turn the P3 knob to the correct side of an SSB signal and simply assume that > the carrier is at xxx0.0 kHz. But the P3 knob is small and that makes this > hard to do. I think it would be great if you could do this with the KPad > knob, and one of the KPad buttons. > > > > But, I called Elecraft and spoke to tech support and they said the KPad > wasn't being programmed to work with the P3, but that this reflector was a > great place to post feature requests. Do any others want to chime in and > request this feature? Thanks, Bob - W3DK > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w8fn at tx.rr.com > From w0agmike at gmail.com Thu May 12 16:23:15 2016 From: w0agmike at gmail.com (Mike Murray) Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 15:23:15 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KPad and P3 In-Reply-To: <024701d1ac85$8de3a7f0$a9aaf7d0$@verizon.net> References: <024701d1ac85$8de3a7f0$a9aaf7d0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Count me in - great idea! Mike - W0AG On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Bob Novas wrote: > I'm really interested in the KPad, but specifically for use with the P3. > The > K3/K3S already has a nice knob! I like to use the P3's knob to tune to a > signal and then push the P3 knob in to set the K3S receiver to that > frequency. Most of the time I can very accurately hit as SSB signal, if I > turn the P3 knob to the correct side of an SSB signal and simply assume > that > the carrier is at xxx0.0 kHz. But the P3 knob is small and that makes this > hard to do. I think it would be great if you could do this with the KPad > knob, and one of the KPad buttons. > > > > But, I called Elecraft and spoke to tech support and they said the KPad > wasn't being programmed to work with the P3, but that this reflector was a > great place to post feature requests. Do any others want to chime in and > request this feature? Thanks, Bob - W3DK > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w0agmike at gmail.com > From dave at w8fgu.com Thu May 12 16:24:46 2016 From: dave at w8fgu.com (Dave W8FGU) Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 20:24:46 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KPad and P3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I asked Wayne about this a few weeks ago when they announced the K-Pod. He said that it would be a firmware tweak. My guess is that he is being modest with that estimate, but this sounds high on the priority list of features. My guess is it may not be there in the initial release (he may prove me wrong though), but would be out soon thereafter. 73, Dave W8FGU On 5/12/2016 4:15:40 PM, "Randy Farmer" wrote: >Myself! Having the ability to click to tune to a signal on the P3 >without messing with the P3 front panel knob would be an EXCELLENT aid >for both DXing (especially if you could do it with VFO B) and S&P >contesting. > >73... >Randy, W8FN > >On 5/12/2016 2:36 PM, Bob Novas wrote: >>I'm really interested in the KPad, but specifically for use with the >>P3. The >>K3/K3S already has a nice knob! I like to use the P3's knob to tune >>to a >>signal and then push the P3 knob in to set the K3S receiver to that >>frequency. Most of the time I can very accurately hit as SSB signal, >>if I >>turn the P3 knob to the correct side of an SSB signal and simply >>assume that >>the carrier is at xxx0.0 kHz. But the P3 knob is small and that makes >>this >>hard to do. I think it would be great if you could do this with the >>KPad >>knob, and one of the KPad buttons. >> >> >>But, I called Elecraft and spoke to tech support and they said the >>KPad >>wasn't being programmed to work with the P3, but that this reflector >>was a >>great place to post feature requests. Do any others want to chime in >>and >>request this feature? Thanks, Bob - W3DK >> >> >>______________________________________________________________ >>Elecraft mailing list >>Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >>This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>Message delivered to w8fn at tx.rr.com >> > >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to dave at w8fgu.com From edauer at law.du.edu Thu May 12 16:45:52 2016 From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward) Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 20:45:52 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 behaviour Message-ID: <6C2612FB-D221-4685-A9C3-736EF76A735F@law.du.edu> Could you have inadvertently changed either Span on the P3 or Rate on the K3? Ted, KN1CBR >------------------------------ > >Message: 6 >Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 09:10:46 -0500 >From: Amateur Radio Operator N5GE >To: Elecraft Reflector >Subject: [Elecraft] P3 behaviour >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >I've changed monitors on my P3 and everything is going well except >that for some reason when I tune across the bands, the monitor display >moves very fast when turning the main VFO across the bands. > >I know I'm missing something, but Ive spent the last two days trying >to find why this is happening in the Elecraft manual and Fred Cady's >P3 manual. > >Can someone point me to the solution? > >Many thanks. > > >ARS N5GE From donwilh at embarqmail.com Thu May 12 16:47:11 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 16:47:11 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KPad and P3 In-Reply-To: References: <024701d1ac85$8de3a7f0$a9aaf7d0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Why can't you turn on the VFO B cursor in the P3 menu and use the K3 VFO B knob to position the VFO B cursor to the signal of interest. Once there a tap of the A/B button will swap VFOs and you will be tuned to that signal that used to be pointed at by VFO B - but it is now the VFO A frequency. If you have the subRX, you can even listen to the VFO B frequency on the sub to fine tune it if necessary before tapping the A/B button. No extra features needed. If using the KPod, one of its buttons can be programmed to do the A/B button tap, so you don't have to move your hand away from the KPod. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/12/2016 4:15 PM, Randy Farmer wrote: > Myself! Having the ability to click to tune to a signal on the P3 > without messing with the P3 front panel knob would be an EXCELLENT aid > for both DXing (especially if you could do it with VFO B) and S&P > contesting. > > 73... > Randy, W8FN > > On 5/12/2016 2:36 PM, Bob Novas wrote: >> I'm really interested in the KPad, but specifically for use with the >> P3. The >> K3/K3S already has a nice knob! I like to use the P3's knob to tune >> to a >> signal and then push the P3 knob in to set the K3S receiver to that >> frequency. Most of the time I can very accurately hit as SSB signal, >> if I >> turn the P3 knob to the correct side of an SSB signal and simply >> assume that >> the carrier is at xxx0.0 kHz. But the P3 knob is small and that makes >> this >> hard to do. I think it would be great if you could do this with the >> KPad >> knob, and one of the KPad buttons. >> >> >> But, I called Elecraft and spoke to tech support and they said the KPad >> wasn't being programmed to work with the P3, but that this reflector >> was a >> great place to post feature requests. Do any others want to chime in and >> request this feature? Thanks, Bob - W3DK >> From n6kr at elecraft.com Thu May 12 17:17:05 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 14:17:05 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3S: How to adjust SSB receive bandwidth up to 4.0 kHz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I was referring to SSB mode, Bill. Not sure if this extends to DATA A mode, yet, but I'll investigate. Wayne N6KR On May 12, 2016, at 1:11 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: > I guess I'm just not getting it. I am in DATA A mode with the 13KHz FM filter automatically selected. Following Wayne's directions, I put the bandwidth controls into Lo/Hi mode and hold NORM to normalize the passband. I then turn the Hi knob to max (4.00 shows) and the Lo know to minimum (0.00 shows). When I look at the bandwidth displayed in the waterfall on fldigi, the computer is getting audio from about 150Hz to 3000Hz. What am I doing wrong? > > I am using a Tascam UX-122 mkii as a "sound card". > > 73 Bill AE6JV From lists at subich.com Thu May 12 18:28:41 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 18:28:41 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3S: How to adjust SSB receive bandwidth up to 4.0 kHz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't know what's going on elsewhere but with FW 5.38 and the KFL3B-FM I regularly get 4 KHz bandwidth (10 - 4000 Hz, or 200 - 4200 Hz) on the waterfall in WSJT-X or an audio spectrum analyzer (e.g., Spectran, Spectrum Lab, etc.) in either SSB (LSB/USB) or DATA (DATA A and AFSK A) modes using Line Out and the sound card in microKEYER II. The only necessary adjustment is to set SHIFT to 2.00, 2.10 or 2.20 if using Shift/Width or use HI/LO to set appropriate HI/LO cutoff frequencies. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/12/2016 5:17 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > I was referring to SSB mode, Bill. Not sure if this extends to DATA A mode, yet, but I'll investigate. > > Wayne > N6KR > > On May 12, 2016, at 1:11 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: > >> I guess I'm just not getting it. I am in DATA A mode with the 13KHz FM filter automatically selected. Following Wayne's directions, I put the bandwidth controls into Lo/Hi mode and hold NORM to normalize the passband. I then turn the Hi knob to max (4.00 shows) and the Lo know to minimum (0.00 shows). When I look at the bandwidth displayed in the waterfall on fldigi, the computer is getting audio from about 150Hz to 3000Hz. What am I doing wrong? >> >> I am using a Tascam UX-122 mkii as a "sound card". >> >> 73 Bill AE6JV > > > > From frantz at pwpconsult.com Thu May 12 20:36:14 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 17:36:14 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3S: How to adjust SSB receive bandwidth up to 4.0 kHz In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I think my problem is with fldigi. I tried using cocoaModem, and it shows audio up to 4.2 KHz when I follow Joe's technique of setting the knobs to SHIFT/WIDTH, the SHIFT to 2.20 and the WIDTH to 4.00. Sorry for the bandwidth. 73 Bill AE6JV On 5/12/16 at 3:28 PM, lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) wrote: >I don't know what's going on elsewhere but with FW 5.38 and the >KFL3B-FM I regularly get 4 KHz bandwidth (10 - 4000 Hz, or 200 - >4200 Hz) on the waterfall in WSJT-X or an audio spectrum analyzer >(e.g., Spectran, Spectrum Lab, etc.) in either SSB (LSB/USB) or >DATA (DATA A and AFSK A) modes using Line Out and the sound card >in microKEYER II. > >The only necessary adjustment is to set SHIFT to 2.00, 2.10 or 2.20 >if using Shift/Width or use HI/LO to set appropriate HI/LO cutoff >frequencies. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | "The only thing we have to | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | fear is fear itself." - FDR | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | Inaugural address, 3/4/1933 | Los Gatos, CA 95032 From n5ge at n5ge.com Thu May 12 20:42:49 2016 From: n5ge at n5ge.com (Amateur Radio Operator N5GE) Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 19:42:49 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] (fwd) P3 behaviour Message-ID: <0f8ajbhfi05rhffmif81jtvurkv9obmbrk@4ax.com> Regarding the posting below : Problem solved by turning off Fixed Tracking Thanks to those answered my post. ARS N5GE On Wed, 11 May 2016 09:10:46 -0500, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE wrote: >I've changed monitors on my P3 and everything is going well except >that for some reason when I tune across the bands, the monitor display >moves very fast when turning the main VFO across the bands. > >I know I'm missing something, but Ive spent the last two days trying >to find why this is happening in the Elecraft manual and Fred Cady's >P3 manual. > >Can someone point me to the solution? > >Many thanks. > > >ARS N5GE > >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to n5ge at n5ge.com ARS N5GE From jstengrevics at comcast.net Thu May 12 20:55:34 2016 From: jstengrevics at comcast.net (John Stengrevics) Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 20:55:34 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] VFO B Not Scrolling Through Config Menu Message-ID: <98A412C3-9C07-4402-A1ED-0D982A9CD5B9@comcast.net> I?ve finished assembly and am now on to the test and calibration stage. When I hold the menu button, I access Config. However, the VFO B control doesn?t scroll through the menu. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. John Stengrevics WA1EAZ From donwilh at embarqmail.com Thu May 12 21:06:18 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 21:06:18 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] VFO B Not Scrolling Through Config Menu In-Reply-To: <98A412C3-9C07-4402-A1ED-0D982A9CD5B9@comcast.net> References: <98A412C3-9C07-4402-A1ED-0D982A9CD5B9@comcast.net> Message-ID: <17eabc59-8b7c-9ab3-72e7-472383ae4e4b@embarqmail.com> John, Is it only the menu scrolling that is causing problems? In other words, what does work? Does the VFO B frequency change when you rotate the VFO B knob? If not, then you may have a defective VFO B encoder, or it is not plugged in correctly. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/12/2016 8:55 PM, John Stengrevics wrote: > I?ve finished assembly and am now on to the test and calibration stage. When I hold the menu button, I access Config. However, the VFO B control doesn?t scroll through the menu. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. > > From we7kham at gmail.com Fri May 13 11:47:27 2016 From: we7kham at gmail.com (Tommy Berggren) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 08:47:27 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/100 FOR SALE Message-ID: K3/100F FS, S/N 8236, factory assembled, no issues, little use, DX chasing, from non-smoking/no pet home, first owner. 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Cashier?s check or USPS MO. 73, Tommy WE7K we7kham at gmail dot com From Gary at ka1j.com Fri May 13 11:57:32 2016 From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 11:57:32 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KPad and P3 In-Reply-To: References: <024701d1ac85$8de3a7f0$a9aaf7d0$@verizon.net>, Message-ID: <5735F96C.2578.C1BBBDC@Gary.ka1j.com> I have a K Pod on order and would love to be able to run the P3 with it. Fr that matter, I use the SVGA with the monitor just beside/behind the K3s and I've long wished the knob functions for the P3 could be placed on the OFS knob on the K3s. It would require the P3 encoder replacing the OFS encoder but it would make so much sense to be able to elect to have all the knob based P3 control be assigned to the K3s knobs. It would be more ergonomically based. If the P3 selection can be done with the K Pod, and still adjust VFO A on the K3s, that will be absolutely fantastic. 73, Gary KA1J Hate missing Dayton this year... > Myself! Having the ability to click to tune to a signal on the P3 > without messing with the P3 front panel knob would be an EXCELLENT aid > for both DXing (especially if you could do it with VFO B) and S&P > contesting. > > 73... > Randy, W8FN > > On 5/12/2016 2:36 PM, Bob Novas wrote: > > I'm really interested in the KPad, but specifically for use with the P3. The > > K3/K3S already has a nice knob! I like to use the P3's knob to tune to a > > signal and then push the P3 knob in to set the K3S receiver to that > > frequency. Most of the time I can very accurately hit as SSB signal, if I > > turn the P3 knob to the correct side of an SSB signal and simply assume that > > the carrier is at xxx0.0 kHz. But the P3 knob is small and that makes this > > hard to do. I think it would be great if you could do this with the KPad > > knob, and one of the KPad buttons. > > > > > > > > But, I called Elecraft and spoke to tech support and they said the KPad > > wasn't being programmed to work with the P3, but that this reflector was a > > great place to post feature requests. Do any others want to chime in and > > request this feature? Thanks, Bob - W3DK > From w2blc at nycap.rr.com Fri May 13 15:40:43 2016 From: w2blc at nycap.rr.com (Bill) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 15:40:43 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 macro question Message-ID: <35700d78-7569-61ee-555d-bde02ffbba79@nycap.rr.com> Is there a command for toggling the AFX feature? I have been unable to find it if there is. Thanks, Bill W2BLC K-Line From joel.b.black at gmail.com Fri May 13 16:02:34 2016 From: joel.b.black at gmail.com (Joel Black) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 15:02:34 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Pros / Cons of Selling K3/P3 and Just Using a KX3 Message-ID: <8D408835-A4E0-4DD4-AA9A-2D60BEB27D6A@gmail.com> I am seriously thinking of selling my K3/P3 combo and just using my KX3 (and purchasing the PX3). My interests over the years have changed. I am only a casual chaser of DX (I already have my DXCC) and SOTA summits. I enjoy digital modes(mostly RTTY, Olivia, and the JT modes). I only occasionally check into nets of any sort. I no longer want a hobby that keeps me inside. Even though I live in the humid Southeast, I am finding that I enjoy getting outside more and more. My day job has me sitting behind a desk on a computer looking at three screens for eight hours a day. I no longer want that for my amateur radio hobby and I find myself migrating as much as possible to mountain bike trails. Some of the pros for using the KX3: compact and portable operates on internal batteries very robust transceiver with a very good receiver dual-watch mode without the need for a second receiver any others I haven?t thought of? Some cons for using the KX3: No diversity receive - although I don?t use this on my K3 even though it has the second receiver digital modes (other than RTTY and PSK31/63) require you to connect and reconnect the speakers and mic connections (although GM4JJJ and others have shown me ways to fix this) limited number of macros (although the PX3 can add macros to the KX3) - I run OS X so the Windows suite won?t work for me Only 15 W max output (although I much prefer QRP operating) any others I haven?t thought of? Opinions / thoughts are encouraged. Please reply direct to joelbblack at gmail.com to keep list volume down. Thanks, Joel - W4JBB From joel.b.black at gmail.com Fri May 13 16:20:10 2016 From: joel.b.black at gmail.com (Joel Black) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 15:20:10 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Pros / Cons of Selling K3/P3 and Just Using a KX3 In-Reply-To: <8D408835-A4E0-4DD4-AA9A-2D60BEB27D6A@gmail.com> References: <8D408835-A4E0-4DD4-AA9A-2D60BEB27D6A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <033D080B-B914-4F13-8082-6716BB5B2BC3@gmail.com> Good grief? I left off that I enjoy my SKCC membership too. So, add CW to the list of modes. Not sure where my mind is / was. 73, Joel - W4JBB > On May 13, 2016, at 15:02, Joel Black wrote: > > I am seriously thinking of selling my K3/P3 combo and just using my KX3 (and purchasing the PX3). > > My interests over the years have changed. I am only a casual chaser of DX (I already have my DXCC) and SOTA summits. I enjoy digital modes(mostly RTTY, Olivia, and the JT modes). I only occasionally check into nets of any sort. > > I no longer want a hobby that keeps me inside. Even though I live in the humid Southeast, I am finding that I enjoy getting outside more and more. My day job has me sitting behind a desk on a computer looking at three screens for eight hours a day. I no longer want that for my amateur radio hobby and I find myself migrating as much as possible to mountain bike trails. > > Some of the pros for using the KX3: > > compact and portable > operates on internal batteries > very robust transceiver with a very good receiver > dual-watch mode without the need for a second receiver > any others I haven?t thought of? > > Some cons for using the KX3: > > No diversity receive - although I don?t use this on my K3 even though it has the second receiver > digital modes (other than RTTY and PSK31/63) require you to connect and reconnect the speakers and mic connections (although GM4JJJ and others have shown me ways to fix this) > limited number of macros (although the PX3 can add macros to the KX3) - I run OS X so the Windows suite won?t work for me > Only 15 W max output (although I much prefer QRP operating) > any others I haven?t thought of? > > Opinions / thoughts are encouraged. Please reply direct to joelbblack at gmail.com to keep list volume down. > > Thanks, > Joel - W4JBB From dick at elecraft.com Fri May 13 17:13:25 2016 From: dick at elecraft.com (Dick Dievendorff) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 14:13:25 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 macro question In-Reply-To: <35700d78-7569-61ee-555d-bde02ffbba79@nycap.rr.com> References: <35700d78-7569-61ee-555d-bde02ffbba79@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: <013901d1ad5c$4a569600$df03c200$@elecraft.com> SWT43? Dick, K6KR -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 12:41 To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 macro question Is there a command for toggling the AFX feature? I have been unable to find it if there is. Thanks, Bill W2BLC K-Line ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to dick at elecraft.com From wfenech at gmail.com Fri May 13 17:19:03 2016 From: wfenech at gmail.com (Bill Fenech) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 14:19:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Pros / Cons of Selling K3/P3 and Just Using a KX3 In-Reply-To: <033D080B-B914-4F13-8082-6716BB5B2BC3@gmail.com> References: <8D408835-A4E0-4DD4-AA9A-2D60BEB27D6A@gmail.com> <033D080B-B914-4F13-8082-6716BB5B2BC3@gmail.com> Message-ID: i'm interested in this topic as well. can folks cc me as well on replies? 73 Bill, AI6JZ On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Joel Black wrote: > Good grief? I left off that I enjoy my SKCC membership too. So, add CW to > the list of modes. Not sure where my mind is / was. > > 73, > Joel - W4JBB > > > On May 13, 2016, at 15:02, Joel Black wrote: > > > > I am seriously thinking of selling my K3/P3 combo and just using my KX3 > (and purchasing the PX3). > > > > My interests over the years have changed. I am only a casual chaser of > DX (I already have my DXCC) and SOTA summits. I enjoy digital modes(mostly > RTTY, Olivia, and the JT modes). I only occasionally check into nets of any > sort. > > > > I no longer want a hobby that keeps me inside. Even though I live in the > humid Southeast, I am finding that I enjoy getting outside more and more. > My day job has me sitting behind a desk on a computer looking at three > screens for eight hours a day. I no longer want that for my amateur radio > hobby and I find myself migrating as much as possible to mountain bike > trails. > > > > Some of the pros for using the KX3: > > > > compact and portable > > operates on internal batteries > > very robust transceiver with a very good receiver > > dual-watch mode without the need for a second receiver > > any others I haven?t thought of? > > > > Some cons for using the KX3: > > > > No diversity receive - although I don?t use this on my K3 even though it > has the second receiver > > digital modes (other than RTTY and PSK31/63) require you to connect and > reconnect the speakers and mic connections (although GM4JJJ and others have > shown me ways to fix this) > > limited number of macros (although the PX3 can add macros to the KX3) - > I run OS X so the Windows suite won?t work for me > > Only 15 W max output (although I much prefer QRP operating) > > any others I haven?t thought of? > > > > Opinions / thoughts are encouraged. Please reply direct to > joelbblack at gmail.com to keep list volume > down. > > > > Thanks, > > Joel - W4JBB > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wfenech at gmail.com > From peluke at gmail.com Fri May 13 17:24:01 2016 From: peluke at gmail.com (Patrick Luke) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 14:24:01 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Pros / Cons of Selling K3/P3 and Just Using a KX3 In-Reply-To: <033D080B-B914-4F13-8082-6716BB5B2BC3@gmail.com> References: <8D408835-A4E0-4DD4-AA9A-2D60BEB27D6A@gmail.com> <033D080B-B914-4F13-8082-6716BB5B2BC3@gmail.com> Message-ID: I love my KX3 and literally surrounded with boxes as I build out a pelican case for it. There was a fellow who linked his KX3 build out a few days ago who did an amazing job with his. portability was one of the key features for me purchasing it as well as I found a smokin good deal. You mentioned a method of avoid (re)connecting the cables for digital modes could you or someone share that again? 73, Patrick - KM6BHU From w7ox at socal.rr.com Fri May 13 17:35:37 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 14:35:37 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Pros / Cons of Selling K3/P3 and Just Using a KX3 In-Reply-To: <8D408835-A4E0-4DD4-AA9A-2D60BEB27D6A@gmail.com> References: <8D408835-A4E0-4DD4-AA9A-2D60BEB27D6A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Joel, Comments inserted below. 73, Phil W7OX On 5/13/16 1:02 PM, Joel Black wrote: > I am seriously thinking of selling my K3/P3 combo and just using my KX3 (and purchasing the PX3). I'd add the PX3 and hold onto the K3/P3 for a while, so you can be sure the KX3/PX3 combo suits you in all respects. > > My interests over the years have changed. I am only a casual chaser of DX (I already have my DXCC) and SOTA summits. I enjoy digital modes(mostly RTTY, Olivia, and the JT modes). I only occasionally check into nets of any sort. > > I no longer want a hobby that keeps me inside. Even though I live in the humid Southeast, I am finding that I enjoy getting outside more and more. My day job has me sitting behind a desk on a computer looking at three screens for eight hours a day. I no longer want that for my amateur radio hobby and I find myself migrating as much as possible to mountain bike trails. > > Some of the pros for using the KX3: > > compact and portable > operates on internal batteries > very robust transceiver with a very good receiver > dual-watch mode without the need for a second receiver > any others I haven?t thought of? > > Some cons for using the KX3: > > No diversity receive - although I don?t use this on my K3 even though it has the second receiver > digital modes (other than RTTY and PSK31/63) require you to connect and reconnect the speakers and mic connections (although GM4JJJ and others have shown me ways to fix this) > limited number of macros (although the PX3 can add macros to the KX3) - I run OS X so the Windows suite won?t work for me > Only 15 W max output (although I much prefer QRP operating) > any others I haven?t thought of? The KX3 is not as robust RX-wise as the K3 in a strong signal environment; may or may not be a factor for you. You can run Windows on your OS X machine via BootCamp. I have an oldish 11" MacBook Air I use that way in my shack, so I have Win 10 available for those apps available only in Windows. > > Opinions / thoughts are encouraged. Please reply direct to joelbblack at gmail.com to keep list volume down. > > Thanks, > Joel - W4JBB From M0XDF at Alphadene.co.uk Fri May 13 17:51:51 2016 From: M0XDF at Alphadene.co.uk (David Ferrington, M0XDF) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 22:51:51 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] Pros / Cons of Selling K3/P3 and Just Using a KX3 In-Reply-To: <8D408835-A4E0-4DD4-AA9A-2D60BEB27D6A@gmail.com> References: <8D408835-A4E0-4DD4-AA9A-2D60BEB27D6A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7B7581E6-8F56-4728-918A-D75062F0D561@Alphadene.co.uk> What is it that wont work for you? Apart from using bootcamp or Parelles or another VM offering, what is it you wish to run? 73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108) > On 13 May 2016, at 21:02, Joel Black wrote: > > I run OS X so the Windows suite won?t work for me From jstengrevics at comcast.net Fri May 13 18:10:04 2016 From: jstengrevics at comcast.net (stengrevics) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 15:10:04 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Not Responding to K3 Utility Message-ID: <1463177404172-7617407.post@n2.nabble.com> I am trying to do the TX Gain Calibration on the K3S. I have a Macbook Air (USB ports only). I downloaded the utility for Mac and the latest drivers. However, there appears to be no connection between the K3 and the computer (I get an error message "K3 not Responding" and all options on the utility under Configuration and Calibration are greyed out). I disassembled and reassembled the KIO3B board to make sure of all connections. I received a technical note from Elecraft on Troubleshooting KIO3B Connections, but it was not very helpful. If anybody has had this problem and can provide some insight, it would be most appreciated. John WA1EAZ -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Not-Responding-to-K3-Utility-tp7617407.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From jermo at carolinaheli.com Fri May 13 18:28:44 2016 From: jermo at carolinaheli.com (Jerry) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 18:28:44 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Pros / Cons of Selling K3/P3 and Just Using a KX3 In-Reply-To: <7B7581E6-8F56-4728-918A-D75062F0D561@Alphadene.co.uk> References: <8D408835-A4E0-4DD4-AA9A-2D60BEB27D6A@gmail.com> <7B7581E6-8F56-4728-918A-D75062F0D561@Alphadene.co.uk> Message-ID: <7097E554-5D42-4BAC-A4ED-54F62661A444@carolinaheli.com> I'd love to buy the P3 if you split them up. Sent from my iPad > On May 13, 2016, at 5:51 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: > > What is it that wont work for you? > > Apart from using bootcamp or Parelles or another VM offering, what is it you wish to run? > 73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108) > >> On 13 May 2016, at 21:02, Joel Black wrote: >> >> I run OS X so the Windows suite won?t work for me > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jermo at carolinaheli.com From bob.novas at verizon.net Fri May 13 18:29:18 2016 From: bob.novas at verizon.net (Bob Novas) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 18:29:18 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KPad and P3 In-Reply-To: References: <024701d1ac85$8de3a7f0$a9aaf7d0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <006201d1ad66$e41584e0$ac408ea0$@verizon.net> > Why can't you turn on the VFO B cursor in the P3 menu and use the K3 VFO B > knob to position the VFO B cursor to the signal of interest. Don - Ah. That's not the same thing. The P3 knob is much quicker tuning and seems to have a "jump to the next signal" feature. It's much quicker to position the P3 cursor to the correct edge of a signal and then push the knob in than it is to tune the K3 A or B VFO. Bob W3DK > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don > Wilhelm > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 4:47 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPad and P3 > > Why can't you turn on the VFO B cursor in the P3 menu and use the K3 VFO B > knob to position the VFO B cursor to the signal of interest. > Once there a tap of the A/B button will swap VFOs and you will be tuned to that > signal that used to be pointed at by VFO B - but it is now the VFO A frequency. > > If you have the subRX, you can even listen to the VFO B frequency on the sub to > fine tune it if necessary before tapping the A/B button. > > No extra features needed. If using the KPod, one of its buttons can be > programmed to do the A/B button tap, so you don't have to move your hand > away from the KPod. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 5/12/2016 4:15 PM, Randy Farmer wrote: > > Myself! Having the ability to click to tune to a signal on the P3 > > without messing with the P3 front panel knob would be an EXCELLENT aid > > for both DXing (especially if you could do it with VFO B) and S&P > > contesting. > > > > 73... > > Randy, W8FN > > > > On 5/12/2016 2:36 PM, Bob Novas wrote: > >> I'm really interested in the KPad, but specifically for use with the > >> P3. The K3/K3S already has a nice knob! I like to use the P3's knob > >> to tune to a signal and then push the P3 knob in to set the K3S > >> receiver to that frequency. Most of the time I can very accurately > >> hit as SSB signal, if I turn the P3 knob to the correct side of an > >> SSB signal and simply assume that the carrier is at xxx0.0 kHz. But > >> the P3 knob is small and that makes this hard to do. I think it > >> would be great if you could do this with the KPad knob, and one of > >> the KPad buttons. > >> > >> > >> But, I called Elecraft and spoke to tech support and they said the > >> KPad wasn't being programmed to work with the P3, but that this > >> reflector was a great place to post feature requests. Do any others > >> want to chime in and > >> request this feature? Thanks, Bob - W3DK > >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to bob.novas at verizon.net From MyFord at nc.rr.com Fri May 13 19:34:29 2016 From: MyFord at nc.rr.com (MyFord at nc.rr.com) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 19:34:29 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 - Looking for someone who can check this thing out for me. Message-ID: Hi, I recently purchased a K2 from a ham. It was supposed to be in great condition. It came with a few options and no mic. I have the radio, and it makes noise like it is doing CW. I figured it was working even though I have made no contacts and the reverse beacon has not spotted me. I pulled the front so that I could verify how the mic was set. It is set for an Icom mic. I bought an Icom mic to use on it. Tried making contacts, no answer back. I now think that I was taken. I have not made a single contact. I feel bad and am starting to not like Elecraft K2. My Yaesu FT-817nd works well and I make tons of contacts with it, using same antenna as with the K2. I figure that I need to send it to somebody who can check it out and tell me if it is OK and also fix it if there is a problem. I'm not sure that there is a problem, but I want to make sure. Thank you and 73, Steve Nielsen KI4EZL From kengkopp at gmail.com Fri May 13 19:45:53 2016 From: kengkopp at gmail.com (Ken G Kopp) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 17:45:53 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 - Looking for someone who can check this thing out for me. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Steve, Don Wilhelm, W3FPR is the man to handle the problem. He's a regular here on the reflector. The K2 -is- a fine radio ..... 73 Ken - K0PP From gary at wa6mem.com Fri May 13 20:13:13 2016 From: gary at wa6mem.com (Gary) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 17:13:13 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3s USB XMIT audio Message-ID: <002001d1ad75$67ec66e0$37c534a0$@wa6mem.com> OK. I've tried about everything I can think of and have read all the emails and web posts but simply cannot get the K3s to transmit audio via USB for any of the software programs such as HRD, WJST ect. The receive works fine as does PTT. I run Win7 and know for sure the audio is being generated by the computer via the Win7 sound configuration on the control panel and I have chosen the proper CODEX audio path. All the software packages and computer work fine with my FT-847 when using a Time Wave Navigator. Is there a configuration or menu setting I'm missing that will switch the audio from the from microphone input to USB when using a software program? The K3s is a great radio but would really like to resolve this one small issue. 73, Gary - WA6MEM From kk7p4dsp at gmail.com Fri May 13 20:17:57 2016 From: kk7p4dsp at gmail.com (Lyle Johnson) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 17:17:57 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3s USB XMIT audio In-Reply-To: <002001d1ad75$67ec66e0$37c534a0$@wa6mem.com> References: <002001d1ad75$67ec66e0$37c534a0$@wa6mem.com> Message-ID: <6b9e29bb-e83e-6b54-e2e1-c1c8aa03c961@gmail.com> Be sure there is nothing plugged into the LINE IN jack on the KIO3B if you are using USB for Tx audio. 73, Lyle KK7P > OK. I've tried about everything I can think of and have read all the emails > and web posts but simply cannot get the K3s to transmit audio via USB... From w7ox at socal.rr.com Fri May 13 20:34:26 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 17:34:26 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 - Looking for someone who can check this thing out for me. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6f192aaa-81a8-a6d1-3236-5bd829f58fdc@socal.rr.com> Steve, The K2 should work well for you; it's a fine radio. And the issues could relate to learning how to use it -- as with any new radio. So if you received a manual with it, be sure to read the part on operating it. Ditto with the various accessories (you didn't mention which you have). If you didn't get a printed manual, they can be downloaded from the Elecraft web site: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740001_K2%20Owner's%20Manual%20Rev%20I.pdf Not working with the mic could be a matter of adjusting the mic gain appropriately. Plus, if a QRP version (no KPA100), operating QRP on SSB can be problematical, particularly with recent abysmal band conditions! If problems continue, don't despair: as Ken said "Don Wilhelm, W3FPR is the man to handle the problem." -- and there is lots of informal support here, too :-) 73, Phil W7OX On 5/13/16 4:34 PM, MyFord at nc.rr.com wrote: > Hi, > > I recently purchased a K2 from a ham. It was supposed to be in great condition. It came with a few options and no mic. > > I have the radio, and it makes noise like it is doing CW. I figured it was working even though I have made no contacts and the reverse beacon has not spotted me. > > I pulled the front so that I could verify how the mic was set. It is set for an Icom mic. I bought an Icom mic to use on it. Tried making contacts, no answer back. > > I now think that I was taken. I have not made a single contact. I feel bad and am starting to not like Elecraft K2. My Yaesu FT-817nd works well and I make tons of contacts with it, using same antenna as with the K2. > > I figure that I need to send it to somebody who can check it out and tell me if it is OK and also fix it if there is a problem. I'm not sure that there is a problem, but I want to make sure. > > Thank you and 73, > > Steve Nielsen > KI4EZL > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w7ox at socal.rr.com > From donwilh at embarqmail.com Fri May 13 20:47:58 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 20:47:58 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 - Looking for someone who can check this thing out for me. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1b7822fe-ae73-5eda-c3dd-b83c45dbdbf3@embarqmail.com> Steve, Fine on having the Icom microphone. Do you have the bias resistor installed? If that is an Icom HM7 you should have an 820 ohm resistor between the +5V pin and pin 1. If it is an HM-12/22/23/36 the bias resistor should be 10k If you have an Icom microphone with a preamp you need to connect 5V to pin 2. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/13/2016 7:34 PM, MyFord at nc.rr.com wrote: > Hi, > > I recently purchased a K2 from a ham. It was supposed to be in great condition. It came with a few options and no mic. > > I have the radio, and it makes noise like it is doing CW. I figured it was working even though I have made no contacts and the reverse beacon has not spotted me. > > I pulled the front so that I could verify how the mic was set. It is set for an Icom mic. I bought an Icom mic to use on it. Tried making contacts, no answer back. > > I now think that I was taken. I have not made a single contact. I feel bad and am starting to not like Elecraft K2. My Yaesu FT-817nd works well and I make tons of contacts with it, using same antenna as with the K2. > > I figure that I need to send it to somebody who can check it out and tell me if it is OK and also fix it if there is a problem. I'm not sure that there is a problem, but I want to make sure. > > Thank you and 73, > > Steve Nielsen > KI4EZL > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com > From nr4c at widomaker.com Fri May 13 21:15:38 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 21:15:38 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Not Responding to K3 Utility In-Reply-To: <1463177404172-7617407.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1463177404172-7617407.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <0FEEEB8B-4980-43CB-9366-9F3C1512280B@widomaker.com> What baud rate is your radio set to? If you have it set to 38,400, rotate the knob one more notch until it says USB. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 13, 2016, at 6:10 PM, stengrevics wrote: > > I am trying to do the TX Gain Calibration on the K3S. I have a Macbook Air > (USB ports only). I downloaded the utility for Mac and the latest drivers. > However, there appears to be no connection between the K3 and the computer > (I get an error message "K3 not Responding" and all options on the utility > under Configuration and Calibration are greyed out). > > I disassembled and reassembled the KIO3B board to make sure of all > connections. > > I received a technical note from Elecraft on Troubleshooting KIO3B > Connections, but it was not very helpful. > > If anybody has had this problem and can provide some insight, it would be > most appreciated. > > John WA1EAZ > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Not-Responding-to-K3-Utility-tp7617407.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From john at kk9a.com Fri May 13 21:27:28 2016 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 21:27:28 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 - Looking for someone who can check this thing out for me. Message-ID: <000401d1ad7f$c78eee60$56accb20$@com> I would turn on your Yaesu with no antenna or a very small wire antenna connected and listen to yourself transmit on the K2 (connected to your normal station antenna or a dummy load) to see if it is transmitting properly. It is very possible that something is set incorrectly. John KK9A [Elecraft] K2 - Looking for someone who can check this thing out for me. From: MyFord Fri May 13 19:34:29 EDT 2016 I recently purchased a K2 from a ham. It was supposed to be in great condition. It came with a few options and no mic. I have the radio, and it makes noise like it is doing CW. I figured it was working even though I have made no contacts and the reverse beacon has not spotted me. I pulled the front so that I could verify how the mic was set. It is set for an Icom mic. I bought an Icom mic to use on it. Tried making contacts, no answer back. I now think that I was taken. I have not made a single contact. I feel bad and am starting to not like Elecraft K2. My Yaesu FT-817nd works well and I make tons of contacts with it, using same antenna as with the K2. I figure that I need to send it to somebody who can check it out and tell me if it is OK and also fix it if there is a problem. I'm not sure that there is a problem, but I want to make sure. Thank you and 73, Steve Nielsen KI4EZL From MyFord at nc.rr.com Fri May 13 22:12:09 2016 From: MyFord at nc.rr.com (MyFord at nc.rr.com) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 22:12:09 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 might need repair.... Steve KI4EZL Message-ID: <03C06D08-34C5-495D-A69C-F9988258DE9C@nc.rr.com> Thanks for all the great helpful information and offers. Hopefully, I might have a cure in the works. Thanks for everything. 73, Steve KI4EZL From jerry at molaver.org Fri May 13 22:38:36 2016 From: jerry at molaver.org (Jerry) Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 02:38:36 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] selling kpa500-f & kat500-f Message-ID: Well, my 6 month wait is over and my 2K-FA is on a Fed-Ex truck heading this way :) When it lands I will be looking to sell my almost new, factory assembled amp and tuner. I received them in mid-December, 2015 and would estimate I have about 10 hours of transmit time on them (kidney transplant in February kind of killed my operating time for a couple of months). I'll include the kpa to k3 aux cable. I have the original boxes & packing but would prefer local pickup (central CT). $2500 picked up, $2600 shipped UPS insured. Prefer check but will accept Paypal if you pay fees. Please email me at jerry at molaver dot org - Thanks! From sp8brq at interia.pl Sat May 14 01:13:27 2016 From: sp8brq at interia.pl (Andrzej Worosz) Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 07:13:27 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 vs K3S References: <8fa2b384-439a-4708-52a8-c81cd6d491c2@subich.com> <1461616484510-7616664.post@n2.nabble.com> <571E9B2C.2040707@audiosystemsgroup.com><260A5F74-38E3-4561-B9C5-728FAB19D05D@elecraft.com> <01d201d19f4e$500fe720$f02fb560$@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <04CB630ED0754C1DB29306B2DE5D8A76@run> Has anyone compare rx K3 vs K3 with a new synth ( K3S) by the A / B switch metode ? As heard issued abt 250 usd ( KSYN3A) , what is the difference? Where can I find a movie with such comparisons, cant find on youtube. 73 Andy sp8brq From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Sat May 14 01:59:09 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (wickedbeernut) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 22:59:09 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 USB Thumb Drive Support Message-ID: <1463205549092-7617421.post@n2.nabble.com> Are there plans to port the P3 USB thumb drive (mass storage device) support to the PX3? Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-USB-Thumb-Drive-Support-tp7617421.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca Sat May 14 08:59:47 2016 From: ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca (Mike Smith VE9AA) Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 09:59:47 -0300 Subject: [Elecraft] A helpful review... Message-ID: <000301d1ade0$8f6c6420$ae452c60$@nbnet.nb.ca> I had an IC-7300 .I just mailed it back to the company I bought it from. This is the first radio I have ever sent back or traded back in ? EVER. >From a contesting perspective, it was no good for SO2R operations. The OVF (overload) light constantly flashed ?indicating, hey, wait a minute, you have very strong signals nearby and you had better stop or turn the RF gain practically all the way down or risk damaging the rig.) you can get rid of the ?danger danger Will Robinson?, OVF light but then you can hear hardly anything. I do operate SO2R at 100w WITHOUT filters or stubs, but my radio 2?s antenna is a horizontal, hundreds of feet away from my primary antennas verticals. I have made measurements with oscilloscopes and have operated a plethora of other (mostly ICOM) radios w/o any hint of an issue. Worst part about all this was that it was NOT on a harmonic band at all ! ! ! ! Ie: I could?ve lived with the fact that if I was on 14MHz transmitting and the 7300 was listening on 28MHz receiving the overload being just too much for this thing, but it was when I was on, say, 14MHz, and the 7300 was on 21MHz UGH .None of my other radios have this problem. There were other issues like the antenna tuner would only match SWR?s up to 3.0:1 and not even a smidge higher. (brick walled @ 3.0:1) (others lamented the same) (you can do emergency mode with 50w out) This was (normally) no problem for the core contesting bands, but it precluded me from using the rig on any WARC bands where a bunch of my antennas (ironically enough) had SWR?s just a wee bit above 3.0:1 .or if it rained and my ZS6BKW\s SWR would rise ever so slightly on 14/28MHz, making the rig?s tuner unable to match it, so I had to go into emergency mode (50w). There were times SSB output for no reason would be ? or ? of the normal output. (others have reported the same-apparently software related and you had to do a full reset to fix (losing any/all settings you may have had) Screen capture (on rig) did not work on my particular rig (a few others have reported this ? albeit not too many) ?Monitor? in the headphones on SSB sounded gnarly/nasty with my Heil headset running through a laptop?s soundcard. I never tried the hand mic (as I would never be using it) The ?double touch the scope to QSY? thing was cutesy and clunky, not really QSYing to the frequency close enough to hear the station in most cases,. You still had to spin/tweak the VFO. The concept was great but the way it worked was far from perfected. I sooooooo wanted to like the radio ( I saved my loonies for a year to buy it) and I am not trashing Icom. I have a shack and closet full of Icoms, but this radio is not without its teething problems. All that being said, it?s probably a moderately good entry level radio for most folks who do not contest, have only 1 radio, have all perfectly matched antennas and don?t care about screen grabs (on rig). Screen grabs onto the SD card then looked at on-computer worked 100%). It was definitely quieter than my IC7410 or FT-450at. All other filters and functions did seem to work well. For my eyes, some of the font on the display was hard to see. I normally need reading glasses if I am looking at very small font, but can operate my IC-7410 and IC-746 w/o them. Maybe it was the white font on a black background, or green traces of the scope. Whatever it was, it was hard for me to see the smaller details. (that?s more a problem with ME and not the rig, but at ? a century old, I probably represent a good chunk of the aging ham demographic. The scope worked well, for what it was, but would not display the weakest of signals that I could clearly hear in my ? century old ears, and even make a QSO .so I figure a brand new device should?ve been able to do that. YMMV, Mike VE9AA Mike, Coreen & Corey Keswick Ridge, NB From ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca Sat May 14 13:50:35 2016 From: ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca (Mike Smith VE9AA) Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 14:50:35 -0300 Subject: [Elecraft] Noise Blanker settings for Newbies Message-ID: <003601d1ae09$2f2f1b10$8d8d5130$@nbnet.nb.ca> Sub 100 serial number K3 CW mode, 20m, low SWR. Mostly using the 500Hz filter. I don't know the radio at all. . . .but I press NB, twizzle with VFO A and VFO B and get things set to where I think they should be to dampen my neighbours electric fence noise, but after a couple of short transmissions I hear the rig clicking away (relays) and then I see the NB flashing (it's evidently unhappy with my DSP choices), so another round of twizzling. Maybe I have it set too wide.....too narrow......not close enough matching.....scratch my head. After a half hour of various settings and looking in the manual (and then in the mirror to see if I have stupid written on my forehead) I come here for sage words of wisdom. Is there something obvious that I am doing wrong? I have no idea what S/W revision I am using and barely know most of the options the rig has and cannot ask the PO . Help>?! Thanks for the nice welcome guys and I can certainly get a S/W version (if that's important to this discussion) Mike VE9AA Mike, Coreen & Corey Keswick Ridge, NB From mveeneman at yahoo.com Sat May 14 14:17:40 2016 From: mveeneman at yahoo.com (Marc Veeneman) Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 14:17:40 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Pros / Cons of Selling K3/P3 and Just Using a KX3 In-Reply-To: <033D080B-B914-4F13-8082-6716BB5B2BC3@gmail.com> References: <8D408835-A4E0-4DD4-AA9A-2D60BEB27D6A@gmail.com> <033D080B-B914-4F13-8082-6716BB5B2BC3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3EFF7E8A-5DCC-4E07-AD2E-DDA13D3877E8@yahoo.com> My vote is for the KX3. I have both the K3/P3/SVGA and the KX3/PX3/KXPA100. They are side by side in identical wood cases made to hold either set along with a straight key, dual lever paddle, and single lever paddle, wireless keyboard, and a 40 Ah battery with charger. I operate 99% CW/data and have dabbled with Olivia, Hellschrieber, RTTY, and PSK. The KX3 receives CW better under high noise (low signal) conditions and the PX3 eliminates that extra screen the P3 needs received data readout. -- Marc W8SDG > On May 13, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Joel Black wrote: > > Good grief? I left off that I enjoy my SKCC membership too. So, add CW to the list of modes. Not sure where my mind is / was. > > 73, > Joel - W4JBB > >> On May 13, 2016, at 15:02, Joel Black wrote: >> >> I am seriously thinking of selling my K3/P3 combo and just using my KX3 (and purchasing the PX3). >> >> My interests over the years have changed. I am only a casual chaser of DX (I already have my DXCC) and SOTA summits. I enjoy digital modes(mostly RTTY, Olivia, and the JT modes). I only occasionally check into nets of any sort. >> >> I no longer want a hobby that keeps me inside. Even though I live in the humid Southeast, I am finding that I enjoy getting outside more and more. My day job has me sitting behind a desk on a computer looking at three screens for eight hours a day. I no longer want that for my amateur radio hobby and I find myself migrating as much as possible to mountain bike trails. >> >> Some of the pros for using the KX3: >> >> compact and portable >> operates on internal batteries >> very robust transceiver with a very good receiver >> dual-watch mode without the need for a second receiver >> any others I haven?t thought of? >> >> Some cons for using the KX3: >> >> No diversity receive - although I don?t use this on my K3 even though it has the second receiver >> digital modes (other than RTTY and PSK31/63) require you to connect and reconnect the speakers and mic connections (although GM4JJJ and others have shown me ways to fix this) >> limited number of macros (although the PX3 can add macros to the KX3) - I run OS X so the Windows suite won?t work for me >> Only 15 W max output (although I much prefer QRP operating) >> any others I haven?t thought of? >> >> Opinions / thoughts are encouraged. Please reply direct to joelbblack at gmail.com to keep list volume down. >> >> Thanks, >> Joel - W4JBB > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to mveeneman at yahoo.com From sancho at frawg.org Sat May 14 16:10:03 2016 From: sancho at frawg.org (Jack Spitznagel) Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 16:10:03 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FWD: FUN! - 10 Meter POP: May 28 + 29 Message-ID: <5737861B.1050105@frawg.org> All, I am forwarding a note from Ev Tupis, W2EV - the chief concept engineer and cheerleader of the PropNET project. I would urge all interested folks to join in the 10 meter POP (play-on PropNET) over the Memorial Day weekend. Please check out the new software (ACDS) that Jeff Steinkamp, N7YG and the PropNET alpha team have fine tuned over the last year. Two serious KX3 Elecrafter's, Ron, W7HD and myself have been involved in this effort for quite some time. On top of the development effort, we have learned a huge amount about the behavior of the 10M band over the last several years and would welcome some extra participation to expand our observations. For some great observations about 10 meters based on the PropNET and WSPRnet projects see: Thanks for considering this great opportunity. Jack KD4IZ Some people think that sub-100 level solar flux levels that dip into the "high 80's" means "death to 10 meters". Others say "Bullocks!" What's the TRUTH? Those that have yet to try: you have 2 weeks to power-up using PropNET's ACDS^31 client (http://www.PropNET.org) and prepare to POP (Play On PropNET)! Let's ALL get on for the upcoming "Memorial Day Weekend" (May 28) in the (USA) and Make Magic Happen! I'll be taking screen shots of our web maps all weekend long to show others what can be done simply by pressing that TX button. What to do now? Easy! Download the latest ACDS^31 client from http://www.propnet.org/ and activate ahead of time to get the wrinkles (if any) worked out. If you are a soundcard mode operator...there should be no wrinkles. ;-) ACDS^31 will configure you as an Automatically Controlled Digital Station (FCC Part 97.221). Let it run 24-hours a day and it will control your station as if you were there. If you live in a country where this is not possible...no worries! There is a feature of ACDS^31 that will screen-prompt you to press (ENTER) every 90 minutes. If you don't, it goes into RX-only (Lurk) mode. DO NOT set to RX-only (Lurk) mode. Allow ACDS^31 to have your station auto-ID every 10 minutes (6x per hours) using both PSK31 *and* CW. That way, even non-PSK31 folks can park on 28.119 and human-decode ID's over a 10 minute period to see where the band is open, too! By the way, you can set your station to ID every 5 minutes (12x per hour) and it would be even better. REALLY! ACDS^31 includes RX-before-TX QRM avoidance technology! After that...watch the "Dashboard" tab each day. It will map "band heat". That is an index that is designed to chart signals in the waterfall vs. time-of-day. Additionally, explore the TEXT MESSAGE feature! You can setup ACDS^31 to send you a text message if/when your station decodes DX! This unique feature is a first-person alert of the DX that YOUR station hears...IN REAL TIME. Feel free to FORWARD THIS E-MAIL to other lists that you belong to. Because of our QRM-avoidance technology, we have yet to find an upper limit to the number of TXing PropNET stations that the waterfall can support. ;-) Get ready to POP on the "Long Weekend" that starts at 0000z 28 May 2016! Cheers, Ev, W2EV __._,_.___ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Posted by: Ev Tupis ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit Your Group Yahoo! Groups ? Privacy ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use __,_._,___ From w0eb at cox.net Sat May 14 17:09:57 2016 From: w0eb at cox.net (Jim Sheldon) Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 21:09:57 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Searching for Panel Meter for R390A/URR Message-ID: I realize this is a really long shot asking on the Elecraft reflector, but I'm posting to a few others as well. During my 20 year Army career, I repaired the R390 and R390A receivers plus taught others to repair them as well. This morning at a local tailgate swapfest I was actually given an R390A in working condition, but it's missing it's Carrier Level and Line Level meters. I'd like to restore it to look like it did when it was in Military service. If anyone out there has either the Carrier Level meter or Line Level meter for an R390 or R390A that they're willing to part with, please contact me off list with your asking price. Thanks, Jim Sheldon - W0EB Park City, KS w0eb at cox.net From we7kham at gmail.com Sat May 14 18:24:08 2016 From: we7kham at gmail.com (Tommy Berggren) Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 15:24:08 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/100F Message-ID: K3/100F FOR SALE, Serial number 8236, factory assembled, no issues, little use, DX chasing, from non-smoking/no pet home, first owner. Included options: KAT3-F Internal ATU with 2nd Ant Jack KXV3A-F RX Ant, IF Out and Xverter Interface KTCX03-1-F TXCO High Stability Ref Osc KBPF3 General Coverage RX Module KRX3-F High Performance Subreceiver Filter complement for both main and subreceiver: Standard 2.7kHz 5-pole filter KFL3A-1.8K-F 1.8kHz, 8-pole roofing filter KFL3A-200-F 200 Hz, 5-pole filter KFL3A-500-F 500 Hz, 5-pole filter K3FLTMATCH 5-pole filter matching to 40Hz USB Adapter for K3 (Sargent ? after market) DC power cord and Owner?s manual Original box Paid $4,485 in Apr 2014. $2,850.00 (or best acceptable offer) shipped and insured ground CONUS. Prefer local sale Phoenix area. Cashier?s check or USPS MO. 73, Tommy WE7K we7kham at gmail dot com From lew at n6lew.us Sat May 14 18:29:53 2016 From: lew at n6lew.us (Lewis Phelps) Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 15:29:53 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Searching for Panel Meter for R390A/URR In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow, what a great find, Jim! I was communications officer on a US Navy ammunition ship during the Vietnam conflict. The radio room had half a dozen R390A receivers that we used for receiving the fleet broadcast and for ship-shore and ship-ship communications. It was an impressively capable receiver, probably the best ever made in the vacuum tube era. The mechanical aspects of the radio were staggeringly complex, so maintaining them must have been a real challenge. Good luck finding the meters. Lew Phelps N6LEW > On May 14, 2016, at 2:09 PM, Jim Sheldon wrote: > > I realize this is a really long shot asking on the Elecraft reflector, but I'm posting to a few others as well. > > During my 20 year Army career, I repaired the R390 and R390A receivers plus taught others to repair them as well. This morning at a local tailgate swapfest I was actually given an R390A in working condition, but it's missing it's Carrier Level and Line Level meters. I'd like to restore it to look like it did when it was in Military service. > > If anyone out there has either the Carrier Level meter or Line Level meter for an R390 or R390A that they're willing to part with, please contact me off list with your asking price. > > Thanks, > > Jim Sheldon - W0EB > Park City, KS > w0eb at cox.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to lew at n6lew.us > Lew Phelps N6LEW Pasadena, CA DM04wd Elecraft K3-10 / KXV144 / XV432 Yaesu FT-7800 Lew at N6LEW.US www.n6lew.us Generalized Law of Entropy: Sooner or later, everything that has been put together will fall apart. From wunder at wunderwood.org Sat May 14 18:32:36 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 15:32:36 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] FWD: FUN! - 10 Meter POP: May 28 + 29 In-Reply-To: <5737861B.1050105@frawg.org> References: <5737861B.1050105@frawg.org> Message-ID: When software only works on one operating system, please say that in the announcement. And say that on the website. That way, people won?t waste their time with a download only to find it is incompatible with their system. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On May 14, 2016, at 1:10 PM, Jack Spitznagel wrote: > > All, > > I am forwarding a note from Ev Tupis, W2EV - the chief concept engineer and cheerleader of the PropNET project. I would urge all interested folks to join in the 10 meter POP (play-on PropNET) over the Memorial Day weekend. Please check out the new software (ACDS) that Jeff Steinkamp, N7YG and the PropNET alpha team have fine tuned over the last year. > > Two serious KX3 Elecrafter's, Ron, W7HD and myself have been involved in this effort for quite some time. On top of the development effort, we have learned a huge amount about the behavior of the 10M band over the last several years and would welcome some extra participation to expand our observations. For some great observations about 10 meters based on the PropNET and WSPRnet projects see: > > Thanks for considering this great opportunity. > > Jack KD4IZ > > Some people think that sub-100 level solar flux levels that dip into the "high 80's" means "death to 10 meters". Others say "Bullocks!" What's the TRUTH? > > Those that have yet to try: you have 2 weeks to power-up using PropNET's ACDS^31 client (http://www.PropNET.org) and prepare to POP (Play On PropNET)! Let's ALL get on for the upcoming "Memorial Day Weekend" (May 28) in the (USA) and Make Magic Happen! > > I'll be taking screen shots of our web maps all weekend long to show others what can be done simply by pressing that TX button. > > What to do now? Easy! Download the latest ACDS^31 client from http://www.propnet.org/ and activate ahead of time to get the wrinkles (if any) worked out. If you are a soundcard mode operator...there should be no wrinkles. ;-) > > ACDS^31 will configure you as an Automatically Controlled Digital Station (FCC Part 97.221). Let it run 24-hours a day and it will control your station as if you were there. > > If you live in a country where this is not possible...no worries! There is a feature of ACDS^31 that will screen-prompt you to press (ENTER) every 90 minutes. If you don't, it goes into RX-only (Lurk) mode. > > DO NOT set to RX-only (Lurk) mode. Allow ACDS^31 to have your station auto-ID every 10 minutes (6x per hours) using both PSK31 *and* CW. That way, even non-PSK31 folks can park on 28.119 and human-decode ID's over a 10 minute period to see where the band is open, too! > > By the way, you can set your station to ID every 5 minutes (12x per hour) and it would be even better. REALLY! ACDS^31 includes RX-before-TX QRM avoidance technology! > > After that...watch the "Dashboard" tab each day. It will map "band heat". That is an index that is designed to chart signals in the waterfall vs. time-of-day. > > Additionally, explore the TEXT MESSAGE feature! You can setup ACDS^31 to send you a text message if/when your station decodes DX! This unique feature is a first-person alert of the DX that YOUR station hears...IN REAL TIME. > > Feel free to FORWARD THIS E-MAIL to other lists that you belong to. Because of our QRM-avoidance technology, we have yet to find an upper limit to the number of TXing PropNET stations that the waterfall can support. ;-) > > Get ready to POP on the "Long Weekend" that starts at 0000z 28 May 2016! > > Cheers, > Ev, W2EV > > > > __._,_.___ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Posted by: Ev Tupis > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Visit Your Group > Yahoo! Groups > ? Privacy ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use > > __,_._,___ > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From frankwiebusch at yahoo.com Sat May 14 22:39:30 2016 From: frankwiebusch at yahoo.com (frank wiebusch) Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 19:39:30 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Travel Case for K3 Message-ID: What cases for traveling with the K3 has been good? Plano, Pelican??? I've started searching and found options, but maybe there is a vendor on here? Frank KG6N From peterc281 at gmail.com Sun May 15 04:16:14 2016 From: peterc281 at gmail.com (peterc281) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 01:16:14 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Computer interface problem with KX3/KXPA100 Message-ID: <1463300174258-7617431.post@n2.nabble.com> A guy at the radio club is trying to get N1MM working and when he switches on the KXPA100 the computer serial port fails. We have confirmed all the cables will work independently ie. The KX3 responds when connected to computer and the KX3 controls the PA. But, as soon as the PA is switched on the port fails as shown in the computer device manager. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Computer-interface-problem-with-KX3-KXPA100-tp7617431.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sun May 15 07:53:00 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 07:53:00 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Computer interface problem with KX3/KXPA100 In-Reply-To: <1463300174258-7617431.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1463300174258-7617431.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Make certain that the pug is fully inserted into the ACC1 jack on the KX3 and the RS-232 jack on the KXPA100. Also that the RJ-45 plug is fully latched into the Control jack. On 5/15/2016 4:16 AM, peterc281 wrote: > A guy at the radio club is trying to get N1MM working and when he switches on > the KXPA100 the computer serial port fails. > We have confirmed all the cables will work independently ie. The KX3 > responds when connected to computer and the KX3 controls the PA. But, as > soon as the PA is switched on the port fails as shown in the computer device > manager. > From peterc281 at gmail.com Sun May 15 08:23:13 2016 From: peterc281 at gmail.com (peterc281) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 05:23:13 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Computer interface problem with KX3/KXPA100 In-Reply-To: References: <1463300174258-7617431.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1463314993701-7617433.post@n2.nabble.com> Further info... We have upgraded the KX3 to the latest revision and checked the KXPA100 which is current to the latest software. The computer is connected to the PC port on the KXPA100. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Computer-interface-problem-with-KX3-KXPA100-tp7617431p7617433.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From w4sc at windstream.net Sun May 15 09:13:50 2016 From: w4sc at windstream.net (w4sc) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 09:13:50 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Sell or Trade KFL3A-2.8K Message-ID: SELL: KFL3A-2.8K 2.8 kHz, 8-pole filter Mint $120.00 Includes tracking, insured, Priority Shipping. Other shipping methods extra. Or, TRADE: KFL3A-2.8K for KFL3B-FM 13 KHz filter. Please reply OFF list. 73 de Ben W4SC From w2blc at nycap.rr.com Sun May 15 09:28:41 2016 From: w2blc at nycap.rr.com (Bill) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 09:28:41 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA problem Message-ID: <4c019cd8-ae52-8022-8716-7a684d16b72a@nycap.rr.com> I installed the SVGA board in my P3 and am unable to access the terminal mode. In effect, the P3 operates as it always did prior to the SVGA installation - nothing is new. I have installed the latest firmware - for the entire station. I only bought the SVGA for macro uses - hence, did not plan to have an external monitor installed. Is an external monitor required for this purpose? Thanks, Bill W2BLC K-Line From bob at hogbytes.com Sun May 15 09:52:09 2016 From: bob at hogbytes.com (Bob N3MNT) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 06:52:09 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Computer interface problem with KX3/KXPA100 In-Reply-To: <1463300174258-7617431.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1463300174258-7617431.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1463320329570-7617436.post@n2.nabble.com> Be sure the baud rate is set at 38400 The KX3 can connect at lower rates, but the KXPA is looking for 38400. Are you turning on amp via KX3 or the switch on the amp. Should be turning on via KX3 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Computer-interface-problem-with-KX3-KXPA100-tp7617431p7617436.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From dave at nk7z.net Sun May 15 10:19:23 2016 From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 07:19:23 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA problem In-Reply-To: <4c019cd8-ae52-8022-8716-7a684d16b72a@nycap.rr.com> References: <4c019cd8-ae52-8022-8716-7a684d16b72a@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: <1463321963.19648.9.camel@nk7z.net> Hi Bill, No, no external monitor is used... ?You should see a message pop up on the P3 screen, indicating a USB device has been plugged in, when you plug in a keyboard. ?If this does not happen, and you are sure you are using a dumb keyboard, not a multimedia keyboard, then something is either not set up correctly, or broken. ?If setup might be the issue, look in Cady's book, if broken, give Elecraft a call... ?It has been too long for me to remember if setup can break this... -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net For MixW support see: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info For SSTV help see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info On Sun, 2016-05-15 at 09:28 -0400, Bill wrote: > I installed the SVGA board in my P3 and am unable to access the > terminal? > mode. In effect, the P3 operates as it always did prior to the SVGA? > installation - nothing is new. I have installed the latest firmware > -? > for the entire station. > > I only bought the SVGA for macro uses - hence, did not plan to have > an? > external monitor installed. Is an external monitor required for this? > purpose? > > Thanks, > > Bill W2BLC K-Line > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dave at nk7z.net From w2blc at nycap.rr.com Sun May 15 10:21:52 2016 From: w2blc at nycap.rr.com (Bill) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 10:21:52 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA problem In-Reply-To: <4c019cd8-ae52-8022-8716-7a684d16b72a@nycap.rr.com> References: <4c019cd8-ae52-8022-8716-7a684d16b72a@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: <57388600.90203@nycap.rr.com> Never mind - got help to move things around and plugged a monitor into the SVGA port. All fixed. Too bad the instruction manual never explicitly state that requirement. Would have saved hours of time and effort. Bill W2BLC K-Line From kz5d at aol.com Sun May 15 11:43:05 2016 From: kz5d at aol.com (Art) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 11:43:05 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 with K3/0 and remote rig Message-ID: <154b515cd69-3fd8-1c324@webprd-a54.mail.aol.com> Hi all, Interested in using the KPA500 via remote. K3/0 manual states that a simple mod to the KPAK3AUX cable is needed. However, this cable from factory has a molded shell on both ends. Anyone figured out how to access it to make the wiring connection needed? Thanks. Art KZ5D From john at kk9a.com Sun May 15 11:45:22 2016 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 11:45:22 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Travel Case for K3 Message-ID: <001601d1aec0$cb4d7520$61e85f60$@com> I have bag made by Rose N7HKW which is very nice. Also a Pelican Storm IM2400 should work. John KK9A From: frank wiebusch Sat May 14 22:39:30 EDT 2016 What cases for traveling with the K3 has been good? Plano, Pelican??? I've started searching and found options, but maybe there is a vendor on here? Frank KG6N From r.tristani at gmail.com Sun May 15 12:28:24 2016 From: r.tristani at gmail.com (Ramon Tristani) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 12:28:24 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Travel Case for K3 In-Reply-To: <001601d1aec0$cb4d7520$61e85f60$@com> References: <001601d1aec0$cb4d7520$61e85f60$@com> Message-ID: <932F665C-866C-4C6C-B6A3-2792551884B5@gmail.com> Rose?s travel cases are the best. Ram?n E. Tristani Sr. r.tristani at gmail.com https://www.flickr.com/photos/nq9v/ www.tristaniministries.org www.tristaniphotography.com > On May 15, 2016, at 11:45 AM, wrote: > > I have bag made by Rose N7HKW which is very nice. Also a Pelican Storm > IM2400 should work. > > John KK9A > > > From: frank wiebusch > Sat May 14 22:39:30 EDT 2016 > > What cases for traveling with the K3 has been good? Plano, Pelican??? I've > started searching and found options, but maybe there is a vendor on here? > > Frank KG6N > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to r.tristani at gmail.com From ns9i2016 at Bayland.net Sun May 15 12:36:57 2016 From: ns9i2016 at Bayland.net ('DGB') Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 11:36:57 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 with K3/0 and remote rig In-Reply-To: <154b515cd69-3fd8-1c324@webprd-a54.mail.aol.com> References: <154b515cd69-3fd8-1c324@webprd-a54.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: That is not needed ... just use Elecraft's host programs for the KPA500 and KAT500. You will be able to turn them on and off and control them all over the internet. Did it for 3-mos this past winter down in FL. - worked like a dream. 73 Dwight NS9I On 5/15/2016 10:43 AM, Art via Elecraft wrote: > Hi all, > > > Interested in using the KPA500 via remote. K3/0 manual states that a simple mod to the KPAK3AUX cable is needed. > > > However, this cable from factory has a molded shell on both ends. Anyone figured out how to access it to make the wiring connection needed? > > > Thanks. > > > Art KZ5D > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ns9i2016 at bayland.net > > From ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca Sun May 15 13:04:54 2016 From: ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca (Mike Smith VE9AA) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 14:04:54 -0300 Subject: [Elecraft] Noise Blanker settings for Newbies Message-ID: <007601d1aecb$f83ff430$e8bfdc90$@nbnet.nb.ca> So it seems no matter which IF NB setting I have the rig on, the NB will invariably start to flash once I start transmitting. Maybe I don't understand what I am doing (quite possible), so this is what I am doing. See if this sounds correct. I hear my neighbours electric fence driving me crazy, so I hold in the NB button. As I understand it, I can adjust either DSP NB and/or IF NB. OK, if I leave IF alone and only choose DSP NB, I can run it through a range of DSP T-1, 2 & 3, up to a max of T3-7 (which makes the audio sound all crunchy) using the VFO(a) knob. I can get 'some' satisfaction from the DSP NB, but would like the option of using either/or. I can transmit as much as I want and the NB light never flashes (using the DSP NB). No problem. Scenario 2.....hold the NB button in, now using the VFO (b) button (for the IF NB), I can choose NAR(7 choices),MED(1-7) & WIDE (also 1-7) . None of the IF choices really seem to do much against the electric fence noise except maybe WID3 one minute, then NAR4 the next. (yet the pulsing is exactly the same every pulse and other rigs (Icoms, Yaesu's deal with it easily)-the e-fence is a pop pop opo, never changing. What's even odder, is that once I transmit once or twice, the NB will then flash, and it seems to me the NB is no longer engaged - is that correct?....is the flashing a warning that you do not have the best selection or a warning that it's now disengaged? Is there a separate board for the NB, because it sure seems to me like it's not working as intended. To add insult to injury, my ol' IC-7410 right next to it pretty much eliminates the E-fence noise altogether w/o breaking a sweat. (I know I shouldn't use the word ICOM here (hi) and I just can't believe this Icom box would be better than a K3.everything I have ever read says the K3 should be superior in every way. I did all my testing on an extremely quiet 17m band, CW mode, 500Hz filter. No amount of varying the bandwidths, hi cut, locut, or an array of filter choices, modes or bands seems to have any affect on the NB flashing. (or it's poor effectiveness) Ideas? Sub 100 serial number K3 CW mode, 20m, low SWR. Mostly using the 500Hz filter. I don't know the radio at all. . . .but I press NB, twizzle with VFO A and VFO B and get things set to where I think they should be to dampen my neighbours electric fence noise, but after a couple of short transmissions I hear the rig clicking away (relays) and then I see the NB flashing (it's evidently unhappy with my DSP choices), so another round of twizzling. Maybe I have it set too wide.....too narrow......not close enough matching.....scratch my head. After a half hour of various settings and looking in the manual (and then in the mirror to see if I have stupid written on my forehead) I come here for sage words of wisdom. Is there something obvious that I am doing wrong? I have no idea what S/W revision I am using and barely know most of the options the rig has and cannot ask the PO . Help>?! Thanks for the nice welcome guys and I can certainly get a S/W version (if that's important to this discussion) Mike VE9AA Mike VE9AA Mike, Coreen & Corey Keswick Ridge, NB From ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca Sun May 15 13:12:02 2016 From: ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca (Mike Smith VE9AA) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 14:12:02 -0300 Subject: [Elecraft] Locking VOX ? (low S/N K3) Message-ID: <007b01d1aecc$f760e960$e622bc20$@nbnet.nb.ca> Hey Guys n' Gals, Is there some way to lock the VOX, so the next time I turn the rig on, that if I am on CW, the VOX is on by default? Yesterday I spent I don't know how long sounding like a lid, calling stations in the CQ-M contest until I finally heard "QLF" when I called AA3B about 5 times. He tried, I give him that, but after a while he could not decode my gibberish. I thought..hmmm, my CW isn't that bad. I listened on another radio and yup, it sounded REALLY bad, skipping dits and dahs. I realized after a bit of reading, that I probably needed VOX turned on, which I did. CW was excellent after that. Anyways; I'd rather not have to remember every time I turned the rig on to engage VOX if there was some way to make that setting "sticky" (hi) Thanks Mike VE9AA Mike, Coreen & Corey Keswick Ridge, NB From k6mr at outlook.com Sun May 15 13:26:43 2016 From: k6mr at outlook.com (Ken K6MR) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 10:26:43 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Locking VOX ? (low S/N K3) Message-ID: Config -> CW WGHT -> Tap the ?4? button. It?s probably set at ?auto off? now, you want ?nor?. Ken K6MR From: Mike Smith VE9AA Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 10:13 To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Locking VOX ? (low S/N K3) Hey Guys n' Gals, Is there some way to lock the VOX, so the next time I turn the rig on, that if I am on CW, the VOX is on by default? Yesterday I spent I don't know how long sounding like a lid, calling stations in the CQ-M contest until I finally heard "QLF" when I called AA3B about 5 times. He tried, I give him that, but after a while he could not decode my gibberish. I thought..hmmm, my CW isn't that bad. I listened on another radio and yup, it sounded REALLY bad, skipping dits and dahs. I realized after a bit of reading, that I probably needed VOX turned on, which I did. CW was excellent after that. Anyways; I'd rather not have to remember every time I turned the rig on to engage VOX if there was some way to make that setting "sticky" (hi) Thanks Mike VE9AA Mike, Coreen & Corey Keswick Ridge, NB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k6mr at outlook.com From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Sun May 15 13:27:09 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 12:27:09 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Noise Blanker settings for Newbies In-Reply-To: <007601d1aecb$f83ff430$e8bfdc90$@nbnet.nb.ca> References: <007601d1aecb$f83ff430$e8bfdc90$@nbnet.nb.ca> Message-ID: <5738B16D.6080404@mediacombb.net> You need to spend some quality book time and walk away from the radio until you understand how it works. Read and *understand* the *whole* manual once through before laying another finger on the radio. I would suggest the KE7X books as well as the manual(s). You first need to find out what version of firmware is installed and if woefully out of date, which I suspect, update that before changing anymore settings. The days of unpacking a radio, putting it on the desk, plugging it in and having it work like you expect are over. On 5/15/2016 12:04 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote: > > > So it seems no matter which IF NB setting I have the rig on, the NB will > invariably start to flash once I start transmitting. Maybe I don't > understand what I am doing (quite possible), so this is what I am doing. > See if this sounds correct. > > > > > > > > > > I hear my neighbours electric fence driving me crazy, so I hold in the NB > button. > > > > As I understand it, I can adjust either DSP NB and/or IF NB. OK, if I leave > IF alone and only choose DSP NB, I can run it through a range of DSP T-1, 2 > & 3, up to a max of T3-7 (which makes the audio sound all crunchy) using the > VFO(a) knob. I can get 'some' satisfaction from the DSP NB, but would like > the option of using either/or. > > > > > > > > > > I can transmit as much as I want and the NB light never flashes (using the > DSP NB). No problem. > > > > > > > > > > Scenario 2.....hold the NB button in, now using the VFO (b) button (for the > IF NB), I can choose NAR(7 choices),MED(1-7) & WIDE (also 1-7) . > > > > > > > > > > None of the IF choices really seem to do much against the electric fence > noise except maybe WID3 one minute, then NAR4 the next. (yet the pulsing is > exactly the same every pulse and other rigs (Icoms, Yaesu's deal with it > easily)-the e-fence is a pop pop opo, never changing. > > > > > > > > > > What's even odder, is that once I transmit once or twice, the NB will then > flash, and it seems to me the NB is no longer engaged - is that > correct?....is the flashing a warning that you do not have the best > selection or a warning that it's now disengaged? > > > > > > > > > > Is there a separate board for the NB, because it sure seems to me like it's > not working as intended. > > > > > > > > > > To add insult to injury, my ol' IC-7410 right next to it pretty much > eliminates the E-fence noise altogether w/o breaking a sweat. (I know I > shouldn't use the word ICOM here (hi) > > > > and I just can't believe this Icom box would be better than a K3.everything > I have ever read says the K3 should be superior in every way. > > > > > > > > > > I did all my testing on an extremely quiet 17m band, CW mode, 500Hz filter. > No amount of varying the bandwidths, hi cut, locut, or an array of filter > choices, modes or bands seems to have any affect on the NB flashing. (or > it's poor effectiveness) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ideas? > > > > > > Sub 100 serial number K3 > > > > > > CW mode, 20m, low SWR. > > > > > > Mostly using the 500Hz filter. > > > > > > I don't know the radio at all. . . .but > > > > > > I press NB, twizzle with VFO A and VFO B and get things set to where I think > > they should > > > > > > be to dampen my neighbours electric fence noise, but after a couple of short > > transmissions I hear the rig > > > > > > clicking away (relays) and then I see the NB flashing (it's evidently > > unhappy with my DSP choices), so another round of twizzling. Maybe I have > > it set too wide.....too narrow......not close enough matching.....scratch my > > head. > > > > > > After a half hour of various settings and looking in the manual (and then in > > the mirror to see if I have stupid written on my forehead) I come here for > > sage words of wisdom. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there something obvious that I am doing wrong? > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no idea what S/W revision I am using and barely know most of the > > options the rig has and cannot ask the PO . > > > > > > > > > > > > Help>?! > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the nice welcome guys and I can certainly get a S/W version (if > > that's important to this discussion) > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike VE9AA > > > > Mike VE9AA > > > > > > Mike, Coreen & Corey > > Keswick Ridge, NB > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevin.stover at mediacombb.net > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca Sun May 15 14:14:20 2016 From: ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca (Mike Smith VE9AA) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 15:14:20 -0300 Subject: [Elecraft] Locking VOX ? (low S/N K3) Message-ID: <008001d1aed5$ab60cd10$02226730$@nbnet.nb.ca> That did it Ken ! Nice !!! I did see the tag "cw weight" on both the rig and in the paper manual, but as I knew the rig came from a CW man, I didn't mess with it, nor did I look closely at all the options. Appreciate it. Thank you. Mike VE9AA, dit dit Mike, Coreen & Corey Keswick Ridge, NB From kevinr at coho.net Sun May 15 14:45:59 2016 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr at coho.net) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 11:45:59 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement Message-ID: <5738C3E7.3020707@coho.net> Propagation has stayed about the same: abysmal rising to the occasional extremely poor. However, the hummingbirds are happy and there are a ton of flowers blooming. If the bands don't work there are always the hiking trails. Please join us on: 14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday) 7045 kHz at 0100z Monday (6 PM PDT Sunday) 73, Kevin. KD5ONS From joel.b.black at gmail.com Sun May 15 14:58:26 2016 From: joel.b.black at gmail.com (Joel Black) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 13:58:26 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] OT - WTB Message-ID: Looking to buy a PX3. Must be in great condition and from a non-smoking home. Please send pictures and price to: joelbblack at gmail.com Thanks, Joel - W4JBB From nr4c at widomaker.com Sun May 15 15:03:17 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 15:03:17 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA problem In-Reply-To: <57388600.90203@nycap.rr.com> References: <4c019cd8-ae52-8022-8716-7a684d16b72a@nycap.rr.com> <57388600.90203@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: <3437E378-0D7E-41CE-9E02-0171CD81ED38@widomaker.com> I suppose. But the monitor is what most users wanted in the beginning and more recent features weren't even in their dreams when the manual was written Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 15, 2016, at 10:21 AM, Bill wrote: > > Never mind - got help to move things around and plugged a monitor into the SVGA port. All fixed. > > Too bad the instruction manual never explicitly state that requirement. Would have saved hours of time and effort. > > Bill W2BLC K-Line > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From ab2e at hotmail.com Sun May 15 15:39:53 2016 From: ab2e at hotmail.com (AB2E Darrell) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 19:39:53 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Travel Case for K3 In-Reply-To: References: <001601d1aec0$cb4d7520$61e85f60$@com>, Message-ID: I also have padded bag by Rose. It's really plush and has a laptop pocket (so you can carry it on the plane as your laptop and take another carry on bag as well). Going to TI5 in Nov and will have that bag with the k3/laptop combo. 73 Darrell AB2E Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S? 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: john at kk9a.com Date: 05/15/2016 11:45 AM (GMT-05:00) To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Travel Case for K3 I have bag made by Rose N7HKW which is very nice. Also a Pelican Storm IM2400 should work. John KK9A From: frank wiebusch Sat May 14 22:39:30 EDT 2016 What cases for traveling with the K3 has been good? Plano, Pelican??? I've started searching and found options, but maybe there is a vendor on here? Frank KG6N ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ab2e at hotmail.com From jewell at btinternet.com Sun May 15 15:43:38 2016 From: jewell at btinternet.com (jewell at btinternet.com) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 19:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] K3 cracked control knob References: <1799604503.4218054.1463341418308.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1799604503.4218054.1463341418308.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Would it be possible to bring a replacement knob to Dayton later this week, for me to pick up, please?It is the smaller, RF/SQL knob that has ( badly) cracked. The larger outer one cracked a few years ago and you have already replaced this one for me.Many thanks Sam Jewell, G4DDK/W5DDK K3 Nr 5879 From ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca Sun May 15 16:14:46 2016 From: ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca (Mike Smith VE9AA) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 17:14:46 -0300 Subject: [Elecraft] KNB3 and my noise blanker issue Message-ID: <00a701d1aee6$7e690d20$7b3b2760$@nbnet.nb.ca> Going through all the menus today (after upgrading to the latest firmware) I do not see the KNB3 option in my menu system?! Is that (maybe) why my IF noise blanker is not working? The board is either: Gone unhooked damaged Ideas?/Comments? Tnx Mike VE9AA Mike, Coreen & Corey Keswick Ridge, NB From k6dgw at foothill.net Sun May 15 16:56:37 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 13:56:37 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Noise Blanker settings for Newbies In-Reply-To: <007601d1aecb$f83ff430$e8bfdc90$@nbnet.nb.ca> References: <007601d1aecb$f83ff430$e8bfdc90$@nbnet.nb.ca> Message-ID: <6ae590a6-cb11-c2ab-468f-183d5306ecee@foothill.net> 1. It really helps if you put the particular Elecraft product you're writing about in the subject line. From reading way down, it "appears" it's a K3. 2. We moved last year from a rural location [38 years] and I have no electric fences around us now. For the 38 years on "The Farm," I was surrounded by them, including ours. If ever there was a noise source suited to complete extinction by the K3 NB, it's an electric fence, and the IF NB alone on mine totally removed all of them. The pulses are short, generally NAR2-3 did it for me. One of them had the old fashioned solonoid with the swinging core, and sometimes [in rain], it's pulses were long enough that NAR4 was necessary. I never needed or used the DSP, and the IF NB has no discernable effect on the received signal. 3. I have no idea what you're referring to with "NB light," my K3 does not have such a thing. There is an indicator in the main display, "NB", which comes on when I turn NB on and goes off when I turn NB off. It doesn't do anything when I transmit. I'd suggest a read of the K3 manual first, then KE7X's excellent manual if you have it. If you don't, I suggest you buy it, it's inexpensive and approaches the K3 [and other K-line products] from a different perspective that a User Manual. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org On 5/15/2016 10:04 AM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote: > So it seems no matter which IF NB setting I have the rig on, the NB will > invariably start to flash once I start transmitting. Maybe I don't > understand what I am doing (quite possible), so this is what I am doing. > See if this sounds correct. > > I hear my neighbours electric fence driving me crazy, so I hold in the NB > button. > > As I understand it, I can adjust either DSP NB and/or IF NB. OK, if I leave > IF alone and only choose DSP NB, I can run it through a range of DSP T-1, 2 > & 3, up to a max of T3-7 (which makes the audio sound all crunchy) using the > VFO(a) knob. I can get 'some' satisfaction from the DSP NB, but would like > the option of using either/or. > > I can transmit as much as I want and the NB light never flashes (using the > DSP NB). No problem. > > Scenario 2.....hold the NB button in, now using the VFO (b) button (for the > IF NB), I can choose NAR(7 choices),MED(1-7) & WIDE (also 1-7) . > > None of the IF choices really seem to do much against the electric fence > noise except maybe WID3 one minute, then NAR4 the next. (yet the pulsing is > exactly the same every pulse and other rigs (Icoms, Yaesu's deal with it > easily)-the e-fence is a pop pop opo, never changing. > > What's even odder, is that once I transmit once or twice, the NB will then > flash, and it seems to me the NB is no longer engaged - is that > correct?....is the flashing a warning that you do not have the best > selection or a warning that it's now disengaged? > Is there a separate board for the NB, because it sure seems to me like it's > not working as intended. > To add insult to injury, my ol' IC-7410 right next to it pretty much > eliminates the E-fence noise altogether w/o breaking a sweat. (I know I > shouldn't use the word ICOM here (hi) > and I just can't believe this Icom box would be better than a K3.everything > I have ever read says the K3 should be superior in every way. > I did all my testing on an extremely quiet 17m band, CW mode, 500Hz filter. > No amount of varying the bandwidths, hi cut, locut, or an array of filter > choices, modes or bands seems to have any affect on the NB flashing. (or > it's poor effectiveness) From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sun May 15 17:17:52 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 17:17:52 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KNB3 and my noise blanker issue In-Reply-To: <00a701d1aee6$7e690d20$7b3b2760$@nbnet.nb.ca> References: <00a701d1aee6$7e690d20$7b3b2760$@nbnet.nb.ca> Message-ID: <87b67293-f2c6-764f-73b6-012fb7cc5507@embarqmail.com> Mike, The KNB3 menu item was removed with MCU firmware 5.20 (see the release notes). The K3 will not operate without the KNB3, so there is no need for a menu entry. What kind of noise are you trying to eliminate? The NB only works on impulse type noise such as may be experienced from automotive ignition noise or electric fence noise. If you are expecting it to remove local 'hum' from neighbors electronic devices or atmospheric noise, it will not be effective. Use the NR function for that type of noise. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/15/2016 4:14 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote: > Going through all the menus today (after upgrading to the latest firmware) I > do not see the KNB3 option in my menu system?! > > Is that (maybe) why my IF noise blanker is not working? The board is either: > Gone > unhooked > damaged > Ideas?/Comments? > From w0eb at cox.net Sun May 15 17:35:45 2016 From: w0eb at cox.net (Jim Sheldon) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 21:35:45 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Re[ OT: Searching for Panel Meter for R390A/URR In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pair of meters for the R390A located. Thanks for all the advice and help. 73, Jim - W0EB From kd6qzx at sbcglobal.net Sun May 15 17:42:10 2016 From: kd6qzx at sbcglobal.net (KD6QZX) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 14:42:10 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Travel Case for K3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2108745291.2362873.1463348522162.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Look at my new end plates to help protect your k3 www.gemsproducts.com On Saturday, May 14, 2016 7:41 PM, Elecraft mailing list [via Elecraft] wrote: What cases for traveling with the K3 has been good? ?Plano, Pelican??? ?I've started searching and found options, but maybe there is a vendor on here? Frank KG6N ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Travel-Case-for-K3-tp7617430.html To unsubscribe from Elecraft, click here. NAML ----- K3 #348 KX3 #2499 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Travel-Case-for-K3-tp7617430p7617457.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From todd at ruby-wine.com Sun May 15 18:05:38 2016 From: todd at ruby-wine.com (todd ruby) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 18:05:38 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Dead K3 Message-ID: This is a new and disturbing issue. I had just made 2 contacts one to Congo on CW on 15 one to Serbia on SSB on 20 and I was just monitoring a station and reading something when all of a sudden his signal went silent and I had no output power whatsoever! I did not touch the radio at all, it just went dead on xmit and rx. Does anyone have any idea what has happened? thanks in advance todd WB2ZAB From ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca Sun May 15 18:14:51 2016 From: ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca (Mike Smith VE9AA) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 19:14:51 -0300 Subject: [Elecraft] NB issue Message-ID: <00d601d1aef7$4485ce70$cd916b50$@nbnet.nb.ca> Yes, it's a K3 early serial #.....I just got it yesterday. (sorry about that - I forgot it was an Elecraft wide list and not just a K3 list - my bad) I updated the firmware from 4.83 to the newest a couple hours ago, hoping it would help. Good on eliminating the mention on newer firmware. That's a relief. The noise I am trying to clear up is a nearby electric fence. So far as I can tell, the IF NB does nothing (or very nearly next to nothing). Regardless of the dozen or whatever choices and any other setting on the radio be it mode, width, gain, whatever, the NB letters themselves will flash once I transmit a couple times. I have even put the rig down to 5W thinking MAYBE it was RFI, but that would not explain the NB doing nothing (or very nearly nothing) in RX mode before I even transmit once. A rig sitting right next to it from an Asian country eliminates the pulses easily and I have been told the K3 is way better. I have to believe that. One thing did occur to me as I was typing this. The radio was shipped to me (packed very well ) by Canada Post. Could this particular board KNB3 be loose on a connector? Has nobody ever seen this particular issue? I can't imagine in all these years I would be the first to see this issue, hi ! Other than the NB, the radio works very well, so the board is in there - but it's just not doing its job, hi 73 es thanks a lot guys. So far, I am liking the radio...unfortunately for me, an electric fence is my nemesis. Mike VE9AA Mike, Coreen & Corey Keswick Ridge, NB From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Sun May 15 18:39:35 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 23:39:35 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] Dead K3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Todd, Has there been a power cut? No seriously, check if your rig is getting power OK. Always start at the Power Station and work your way forward. Check connectors and fuses. 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 15 May 2016, at 23:05, todd ruby wrote: > > This is a new and disturbing issue. I had just made 2 contacts one to Congo on CW on 15 one to Serbia on SSB on 20 and I was just monitoring a station and reading something when all of a sudden his signal went silent and I had no output power whatsoever! I did not touch the radio at all, it just went dead on xmit and rx. > > Does anyone have any idea what has happened? > > thanks in advance > > todd > > WB2ZAB > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Sun May 15 18:43:14 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 23:43:14 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] NB issue In-Reply-To: <00d601d1aef7$4485ce70$cd916b50$@nbnet.nb.ca> References: <00d601d1aef7$4485ce70$cd916b50$@nbnet.nb.ca> Message-ID: <5BE03DAF-0303-401A-80B2-81928B6E2A74@yahoo.co.uk> Hmmm, those NB letters are not supposed to flash. They should either be on or off. Sounds like a bad connection someplace. To eliminate RF causing any sort of problem, please try transmitting into a dummy load. 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 15 May 2016, at 23:14, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote: > > Regardless of the dozen or whatever choices and any other setting on the > radio be it mode, width, gain, whatever, the NB letters themselves will > flash once I transmit a couple times. From nr4c at widomaker.com Sun May 15 18:59:50 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 18:59:50 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] NB issue In-Reply-To: <5BE03DAF-0303-401A-80B2-81928B6E2A74@yahoo.co.uk> References: <00d601d1aef7$4485ce70$cd916b50$@nbnet.nb.ca> <5BE03DAF-0303-401A-80B2-81928B6E2A74@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <390CB844-5B25-4301-B403-FB9EE425198F@widomaker.com> What effect do you expect when transmitting? I would think "nothing" since NB is a Receive function. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 15, 2016, at 6:43 PM, David Anderson via Elecraft wrote: > > Hmmm, those NB letters are not supposed to flash. They should either be on or off. Sounds like a bad connection someplace. > > To eliminate RF causing any sort of problem, please try transmitting into a dummy load. > > 73 from David GM4JJJ > >> On 15 May 2016, at 23:14, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote: >> >> Regardless of the dozen or whatever choices and any other setting on the >> radio be it mode, width, gain, whatever, the NB letters themselves will >> flash once I transmit a couple times. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca Sun May 15 19:06:22 2016 From: ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca (Mike Smith VE9AA) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 20:06:22 -0300 Subject: [Elecraft] NB issue In-Reply-To: <390CB844-5B25-4301-B403-FB9EE425198F@widomaker.com> References: <00d601d1aef7$4485ce70$cd916b50$@nbnet.nb.ca> <5BE03DAF-0303-401A-80B2-81928B6E2A74@yahoo.co.uk> <390CB844-5B25-4301-B403-FB9EE425198F@widomaker.com> Message-ID: <00e201d1aefe$7738ea80$65aabf80$@nbnet.nb.ca> I am not sure what you are eluding to Bill, but suffice to say I don;'t think you understand the issue. Once I have transmitted, the NB flashes and will stay flashing forever. (while I am sitting there receiving) Also, the NB seems to do little to nothing. I am not a K3 engineer, but I am now SURE this is not how it's supposed to work. I am going to crack the radio open tomorrow and see if the board has come loose during shipping. Please don't anyone email me again asking me to look at the page in the manual concerning the NB. (I have had a number of you do that and even send me a copy of the page. ) I give you my word I have read it and have read it again!. Regardless of settings the NB letters flash. (when invoking IF NB_) Something is not correct :-) Mike VE9AA Mike, Coreen & Corey Keswick Ridge, NB -----Original Message----- From: Nr4c [mailto:nr4c at widomaker.com] Sent: May 15, 2016 8:00 PM To: David Anderson Cc: Mike Smith VE9AA; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] NB issue What effect do you expect when transmitting? I would think "nothing" since NB is a Receive function. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 15, 2016, at 6:43 PM, David Anderson via Elecraft wrote: > > Hmmm, those NB letters are not supposed to flash. They should either be on or off. Sounds like a bad connection someplace. > > To eliminate RF causing any sort of problem, please try transmitting into a dummy load. > > 73 from David GM4JJJ > >> On 15 May 2016, at 23:14, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote: >> >> Regardless of the dozen or whatever choices and any other setting on >> the radio be it mode, width, gain, whatever, the NB letters >> themselves will flash once I transmit a couple times. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > nr4c at widomaker.com From k2av.guy at gmail.com Sun May 15 19:16:24 2016 From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 19:16:24 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KNB3 and my noise blanker issue In-Reply-To: <00a701d1aee6$7e690d20$7b3b2760$@nbnet.nb.ca> References: <00a701d1aee6$7e690d20$7b3b2760$@nbnet.nb.ca> Message-ID: Per the manual at page 25 (K3, p 27 for K3S), "The NB icon will flash slowly if the I.F. blanker setting is too high for the present signal conditions. If this happens, use a lower setting." There's more to be read on the subject at that page in the manual. Found the page by searching the Elecraft users manual PDF for "flash". Using the search function in the free Adobe PDF Reader on manual or schematic PDF's has saved me a ton of frustration and time. It is my number one tool for taking care of RTFM before diving in. >From my own experience, the setting of the ATT/PRE and RF gain will decidedly affect how well the IF NB is working. This is decidedly NOT an issue specific to K3 or Elecraft, as it was a consideration with analog tube type radios designed designed in the 20th century. It was/is just about knowing where the blanking threshold is at your setting and setting preselect, preamp, RF Gain, attenuators, whatever so that the blanking threshold is NOT cutting into regular signal levels but is catching the noise peaks. Aside from NB flashing, I could create the same symptoms you are describing with my long-ago tube radios 73, Guy K2AV On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote: > Going through all the menus today (after upgrading to the latest firmware) > I > do not see the KNB3 option in my menu system?! > > Is that (maybe) why my IF noise blanker is not working? The board is > either: > > Gone > > unhooked > > damaged > > Ideas?/Comments? > > Tnx > > Mike VE9AA > > > > Mike, Coreen & Corey > > Keswick Ridge, NB > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2av.guy at gmail.com > From ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca Sun May 15 19:49:27 2016 From: ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca (Mike Smith VE9AA) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 20:49:27 -0300 Subject: [Elecraft] KNB3 and my noise blanker issue In-Reply-To: <728d74ac-fcfc-0a18-91cc-c48c25d17abe@embarqmail.com> References: <00a701d1aee6$7e690d20$7b3b2760$@nbnet.nb.ca> <87b67293-f2c6-764f-73b6-012fb7cc5507@embarqmail.com> <00d501d1aef5$6e5cc890$4b1659b0$@nbnet.nb.ca> <728d74ac-fcfc-0a18-91cc-c48c25d17abe@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <00e901d1af04$7bdf5960$739e0c20$@nbnet.nb.ca> It flashes once I stop transmitting (even at 0.1watt output, 0.0w output, or in TEST mode)..........and continues to flash forever.(in receive) Mike, Coreen & Corey Keswick Ridge, NB -----Original Message----- From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:donwilh at embarqmail.com] Sent: May 15, 2016 8:37 PM To: Mike Smith VE9AA Subject: Re: KNB3 and my noise blanker issue Mike, I don't think the flashing on TX is of any consequence. The NB only works in receive. Try the various settings. If the particular fence controller has a long rise time, the NB will not fire on it. NR may work, but for me, I don't like to use it because it distorts the signal. Noise reduction looks for what it "thinks is a coorelated signal and builds a filter around it. It takes a bit of time to build that filter. It works better on CW than it does on SSB IMHO. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/15/2016 6:01 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote: > Don, > > Thanks. Electric fence popping from very closeby. For the moment, I > can't eliminate it at the source (long story). > > The IF NB appears really to do nothing whatsoever. Also, as soon as I > transmit, the light (well, not light, but the letters "NB" flashes, > regardless of any other settings on the rig whatsoever. > > Very strange ! > > Mike, Coreen & Corey > Keswick Ridge, NB > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:donwilh at embarqmail.com] > Sent: May 15, 2016 6:18 PM > To: Mike Smith VE9AA; elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KNB3 and my noise blanker issue > > Mike, > > The KNB3 menu item was removed with MCU firmware 5.20 (see the release > notes). > > The K3 will not operate without the KNB3, so there is no need for a > menu entry. > > What kind of noise are you trying to eliminate? The NB only works on > impulse type noise such as may be experienced from automotive ignition > noise or electric fence noise. > If you are expecting it to remove local 'hum' from neighbors > electronic devices or atmospheric noise, it will not be effective. > Use the NR function for that type of noise. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > > On 5/15/2016 4:14 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote: >> Going through all the menus today (after upgrading to the latest >> firmware) > I >> do not see the KNB3 option in my menu system?! >> >> Is that (maybe) why my IF noise blanker is not working? The board is > either: >> Gone >> unhooked >> damaged >> Ideas?/Comments? >> > From k2av.guy at gmail.com Sun May 15 20:09:01 2016 From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 20:09:01 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KNB3 and my noise blanker issue In-Reply-To: <00e901d1af04$7bdf5960$739e0c20$@nbnet.nb.ca> References: <00a701d1aee6$7e690d20$7b3b2760$@nbnet.nb.ca> <87b67293-f2c6-764f-73b6-012fb7cc5507@embarqmail.com> <00d501d1aef5$6e5cc890$4b1659b0$@nbnet.nb.ca> <728d74ac-fcfc-0a18-91cc-c48c25d17abe@embarqmail.com> <00e901d1af04$7bdf5960$739e0c20$@nbnet.nb.ca> Message-ID: On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 7:49 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote: > It flashes once I stop transmitting (even at 0.1watt output, 0.0w output, > or > in TEST mode)..........and continues to flash forever.(in receive) > That is correct, because the flashing is a receive mode output state only and does not occur while TX. The CPU program code does not flash it while the K3 is in TX state. The program code for this does not consider TX output level, or anything TX for that matter. The K3 CPU is analyzing your RX signals and RX settings situation and giving you a signal whose presence is explained at page 25 in the K3 manual. It is just an output from the CPU, running analysis on the number soup in its memory that is the signal and outputs from other program code. 73, Guy K2AV From tadej.arcon at gmail.com Sun May 15 20:15:58 2016 From: tadej.arcon at gmail.com (Tadej Arcon) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 02:15:58 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] WTB KX3 Message-ID: Hello Group, I want to buy a KX3 with options. Please contact me at s52x at hamradio.si 73s, -- Tadej Arcon, S52X From brendon at whateley.com Sun May 15 21:35:33 2016 From: brendon at whateley.com (Brendon Whateley) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 18:35:33 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 cracked control knob In-Reply-To: <1799604503.4218054.1463341418308.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1799604503.4218054.1463341418308.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1799604503.4218054.1463341418308.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: That may be a better request to send/call directly to Elecraft Support rather than the public email group which is not guaranteed to be seen by the folks at E. - Brendon On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 12:43 PM, wrote: > Would it be possible to bring a replacement knob to Dayton later this > week, for me to pick up, please?It is the smaller, RF/SQL knob that has ( > badly) cracked. The larger outer one cracked a few years ago and you have > already replaced this one for me.Many thanks > Sam Jewell, G4DDK/W5DDK > K3 Nr 5879 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to brendon at whateley.com > From ron at cobi.biz Sun May 15 22:39:21 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 19:39:21 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA problem In-Reply-To: <3437E378-0D7E-41CE-9E02-0171CD81ED38@widomaker.com> References: <4c019cd8-ae52-8022-8716-7a684d16b72a@nycap.rr.com> <57388600.90203@nycap.rr.com> <3437E378-0D7E-41CE-9E02-0171CD81ED38@widomaker.com> Message-ID: <002c01d1af1c$271aade0$755009a0$@biz> Well, we do update the manuals regularly through errata and updates when they are reprinted to cover new features. Bill makes a good point. We'll make it abundantly clear that the P3SVGA requires an external SVGA monitor to use all of its features. Tnx and 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Nr4c Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 12:03 PM To: Bill Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA problem I suppose. But the monitor is what most users wanted in the beginning and more recent features weren't even in their dreams when the manual was written Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 15, 2016, at 10:21 AM, Bill wrote: > > Never mind - got help to move things around and plugged a monitor into the SVGA port. All fixed. > > Too bad the instruction manual never explicitly state that requirement. Would have saved hours of time and effort. > > Bill W2BLC K-Line From lstavenhagen at hotmail.com Sun May 15 23:27:18 2016 From: lstavenhagen at hotmail.com (lstavenhagen) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 20:27:18 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Computer interface problem with KX3/KXPA100 In-Reply-To: <1463314993701-7617433.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1463300174258-7617431.post@n2.nabble.com> <1463314993701-7617433.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1463369238197-7617469.post@n2.nabble.com> If you're getting the big yellow bang by the device in "device mangler", that points more to a failure in the driver for the USB device in the machine, or a problem with the device itself inside the box. The plug could be marginal after heavy use, or the driver may be corrupt, or the USB hub could have a problem of some kind, etc. What I'd do to troubleshoot at that point is try the setup on a different computer, or on a different USB port on the machine that you know is separate physically from the troublesome one. Just trying a different computer with known-good hardware in it would probably be the easiest next step to take. 73, LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Computer-interface-problem-with-KX3-KXPA100-tp7617431p7617469.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From todd at ruby-wine.com Sun May 15 23:31:57 2016 From: todd at ruby-wine.com (todd ruby) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 23:31:57 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Dead K3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks to everyone who gave me some ideas. In fact what I needed to do was to reset the circuit breaker on the K3. All is well 59+20 in France! 73 todd WB2ZAB > On May 15, 2016, at 6:39 PM, David Anderson wrote: > > Hi Todd, > > Has there been a power cut? > > No seriously, check if your rig is getting power OK. > > Always start at the Power Station and work your way forward. > > Check connectors and fuses. > > 73 from David GM4JJJ > >> On 15 May 2016, at 23:05, todd ruby wrote: >> >> This is a new and disturbing issue. I had just made 2 contacts one to Congo on CW on 15 one to Serbia on SSB on 20 and I was just monitoring a station and reading something when all of a sudden his signal went silent and I had no output power whatsoever! I did not touch the radio at all, it just went dead on xmit and rx. >> >> Does anyone have any idea what has happened? >> >> thanks in advance >> >> todd >> >> WB2ZAB >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk > From lstavenhagen at hotmail.com Sun May 15 23:43:01 2016 From: lstavenhagen at hotmail.com (lstavenhagen) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 20:43:01 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KNB3 and my noise blanker issue In-Reply-To: References: <00a701d1aee6$7e690d20$7b3b2760$@nbnet.nb.ca> <87b67293-f2c6-764f-73b6-012fb7cc5507@embarqmail.com> <00e901d1af04$7bdf5960$739e0c20$@nbnet.nb.ca> Message-ID: <1463370181211-7617471.post@n2.nabble.com> Yep, the NB icon is supposed to flash if the setting is overly aggressive. I've seen mine do this on very rare occasions on my K3 when I had it set to the very highest settings (both regular and DSP), though I've only seen it once or twice. So it's probably working. In fact, on just the right kind of noise, either one set to the max can greatly _increase_ the noise level as seen on the S meter. I've been able to use this, though, to pull out a weak signal in the local noise on 30 meters. Here at home, 30 meters is unbelievably noisy (probably the wall warts in the apartment) and if I really crank up the NB, weak signals sound like 60HZ buzzes instead of tones. But they're actually a lot more readable that way lol. The DSP noise blanker is easier to discern as having an effect without actual true noise to filter out than the other noise blanker. But if you turn it all the way up to 7, you should still hear it altering even normal band noise somewhat. 73, LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KNB3-and-my-noise-blanker-issue-tp7617453p7617471.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From k9ma at sdellington.us Sun May 15 23:44:29 2016 From: k9ma at sdellington.us (Scott Ellington) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 22:44:29 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Dead K3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <522bfe6d-a9da-c926-dc54-9260033a88a9@sdellington.us> On 5/15/2016 22:31, todd ruby wrote: > Thanks to everyone who gave me some ideas. In fact what I needed to do was to reset the circuit breaker on the K3. All is well 59+20 in France! I wonder why the circuit breaker tripped in the first place, though. There's usually a reason, which can lead to unpleasant surprises. 73, Scott K9MA -- Scott Ellington K9MA Madison, Wisconsin, USA k9ma at sdellington.us From K5WA at Comcast.net Sun May 15 23:49:05 2016 From: K5WA at Comcast.net (K5WA) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 22:49:05 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 vs K3S Message-ID: <029f01d1af25$e4bbf8f0$ae33ead0$@net> Andy, I don't have a YouTube video but when I put the new synth boards in my three K3 (not K3S) rigs I found that I was able to handle close by signals better. I'm mostly a CW contest guy so I can't say what SSB is like but a CW contest seems to be less crowded now. I know that is purely subjective and I have no numbers of my own to support that but the published numbers and graphs I've seen from others match what I am hearing. I'm also happy that the new synth boards help make my transmit signal cleaner as well. I had a friend record my signal when I was next to a "dirty" CW signal in a recent contest and the difference is striking. Yes, $250 USD is very expensive but I felt it was well worth the cost. After the CW keying issue improvement, I feel like this synth upgrade is the most important improvement for me. 73, Bob K5WA >>>>Message: 2 >>>>>Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 07:13:27 +0200 >>>>>From: "Andrzej Worosz" To: Subject: [Elecraft] K3 vs K3S Has anyone compare rx K3 vs K3 with a new synth ( K3S) by the A / B switch metode ? As heard issued abt 250 usd ( KSYN3A) , what is the difference? Where can I find a movie with such comparisons, cant find on youtube. 73 Andy sp8brq From vk1zzgary at gmail.com Mon May 16 00:00:01 2016 From: vk1zzgary at gmail.com (Gary) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 14:00:01 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 vs K3S In-Reply-To: <029f01d1af25$e4bbf8f0$ae33ead0$@net> References: <029f01d1af25$e4bbf8f0$ae33ead0$@net> Message-ID: <573945c1.9c12620a.12fb3.26fe@mx.google.com> What he said....and ditto for SSB. Well worth the cost and effort. Gary -----Original Message----- From: "K5WA" Sent: ?16/?05/?2016 1:50 PM To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs K3S Andy, I don't have a YouTube video but when I put the new synth boards in my three K3 (not K3S) rigs I found that I was able to handle close by signals better. I'm mostly a CW contest guy so I can't say what SSB is like but a CW contest seems to be less crowded now. I know that is purely subjective and I have no numbers of my own to support that but the published numbers and graphs I've seen from others match what I am hearing. I'm also happy that the new synth boards help make my transmit signal cleaner as well. I had a friend record my signal when I was next to a "dirty" CW signal in a recent contest and the difference is striking. Yes, $250 USD is very expensive but I felt it was well worth the cost. After the CW keying issue improvement, I feel like this synth upgrade is the most important improvement for me. 73, Bob K5WA >>>>Message: 2 >>>>>Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 07:13:27 +0200 >>>>>From: "Andrzej Worosz" To: Subject: [Elecraft] K3 vs K3S Has anyone compare rx K3 vs K3 with a new synth ( K3S) by the A / B switch metode ? As heard issued abt 250 usd ( KSYN3A) , what is the difference? Where can I find a movie with such comparisons, cant find on youtube. 73 Andy sp8brq ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vk1zzgary at gmail.com From kc6cnn at gmail.com Mon May 16 00:09:02 2016 From: kc6cnn at gmail.com (KC6CNN) Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 21:09:02 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] OT thread non-Elecraft Looking for 5 Pense piece Message-ID: <1463371742886-7617475.post@n2.nabble.com> I am looking for a UK 5 Pense Piece. Does anyone know where I can purchase one? Thank you Gerald - KC6CNN ----- KC6CNN - Gerald K1 # 0014 K2 # 5486 K3 # 6294 KX3 # 757 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/OT-thread-non-Elecraft-Looking-for-5-Pense-piece-tp7617475.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk Mon May 16 00:29:36 2016 From: vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk (Johnny Siu) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 04:29:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] K3 vs K3S In-Reply-To: <573945c1.9c12620a.12fb3.26fe@mx.google.com> References: <029f01d1af25$e4bbf8f0$ae33ead0$@net> <573945c1.9c12620a.12fb3.26fe@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <71749101.2058867.1463372976497.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Yes, the new KSYN3A synthesizer board is also good for SSB. ?Perhaps, it should be the most valuable upgrade to K3. ?If you don't have the funds for K3S, just do this upgrade, then over say 99% of the time you can't distinguish between a K3 Vs K3S 73 Johnny VR2XMC ???? Gary ???? K5WA ; elecraft at mailman.qth.net ????? 2016?05?16? (??) 12:00 PM ??? Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs K3S What he said....and ditto for SSB. Well worth the cost and effort. Gary -----Original Message----- From: "K5WA" Sent: ?16/?05/?2016 1:50 PM To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs K3S Andy, I don't have a YouTube video but when I put the new synth boards in my three K3 (not K3S) rigs I found that I was able to handle close by signals better. I'm mostly a CW contest guy so I can't say what SSB is like but a CW contest seems to be less crowded now.? I know that is purely subjective and I have no numbers of my own to support that but the published numbers and graphs I've seen from others match what I am hearing.? I'm also happy that the new synth boards help make my transmit signal cleaner as well.? I had a friend record my signal when I was next to a "dirty" CW signal in a recent contest and the difference is striking.? Yes, $250 USD is very expensive but I felt it was well worth the cost.? After the CW keying issue improvement, I feel like this synth upgrade is the most important improvement for me. 73, Bob K5WA >>>>Message: 2 >>>>>Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 07:13:27 +0200 >>>>>From: "Andrzej Worosz" To: Subject: [Elecraft] K3 vs K3S Has anyone compare rx? K3 vs? K3 with a new synth ( K3S)? by the A / B switch metode ? As heard issued abt 250 usd ( KSYN3A) , what is the difference? Where can I find a movie with such comparisons, cant find on youtube. 73 Andy sp8brq From n3reb at ptd.net Mon May 16 01:39:30 2016 From: n3reb at ptd.net (n3reb) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 01:39:30 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] stop e mail Message-ID: stop e mail From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Mon May 16 03:05:04 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 08:05:04 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] OT thread non-Elecraft Looking for 5 Pense piece In-Reply-To: <1463371742886-7617475.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1463371742886-7617475.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Gerald, Why? Just curious? Does it have to be in mint condition? I can pop one in an envelope with a QSL card if you like. According to the Royal Mail it isn't legal to send coins through the mail in the USA. I don't suppose a single 5p (pence) would matter though. 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 16 May 2016, at 05:09, KC6CNN wrote: > > I am looking for a UK 5 Pense Piece. Does anyone know where I can purchase > one? > Thank you > Gerald - KC6CNN > > > > > > ----- > KC6CNN - Gerald > K1 # 0014 > K2 # 5486 > K3 # 6294 > KX3 # 757 > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/OT-thread-non-Elecraft-Looking-for-5-Pense-piece-tp7617475.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk From jewell at btinternet.com Mon May 16 03:24:13 2016 From: jewell at btinternet.com (Sam Jewell) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 08:24:13 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 cracked control knob In-Reply-To: References: <1799604503.4218054.1463341418308.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1799604503.4218054.1463341418308.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <173CE9AD-4607-4D56-B10B-DB5C00F922D1@btinternet.com> Apologies to all that my request went to the wrong group. I had that one down as Elecraft support. I will probably lodge my request directly with Elecraft on Friday at Dayton. No getting the wrong group then! 73 de Sam Sent from my DDKpad g4ddk.com g4ddk.blogspot.com > On 16 May 2016, at 02:35, Brendon Whateley wrote: > > That may be a better request to send/call directly to Elecraft Support rather than the public email group which is not guaranteed to be seen by the folks at E. > > - Brendon > >> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 12:43 PM, wrote: >> Would it be possible to bring a replacement knob to Dayton later this week, for me to pick up, please?It is the smaller, RF/SQL knob that has ( badly) cracked. The larger outer one cracked a few years ago and you have already replaced this one for me.Many thanks >> Sam Jewell, G4DDK/W5DDK >> K3 Nr 5879 >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to brendon at whateley.com > From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Mon May 16 03:26:51 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 08:26:51 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 cracked control knob In-Reply-To: <173CE9AD-4607-4D56-B10B-DB5C00F922D1@btinternet.com> References: <1799604503.4218054.1463341418308.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1799604503.4218054.1463341418308.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <173CE9AD-4607-4D56-B10B-DB5C00F922D1@btinternet.com> Message-ID: Have a great time in Dayton Sam. Wish I could be with you! 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 16 May 2016, at 08:24, Sam Jewell wrote: > > Apologies to all that my request went to the wrong group. I had that one down as Elecraft support. > I will probably lodge my request directly with Elecraft on Friday at Dayton. No getting the wrong group then! > 73 de Sam > > From droese at necg.de Mon May 16 03:36:36 2016 From: droese at necg.de (=?UTF-8?Q?Oliver_Dr=c3=b6se?=) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 09:36:36 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] NB issue In-Reply-To: <00d601d1aef7$4485ce70$cd916b50$@nbnet.nb.ca> References: <00d601d1aef7$4485ce70$cd916b50$@nbnet.nb.ca> Message-ID: Hey Mike, good to see you here, too. ;-) > A rig sitting right next to it from an Asian country eliminates the pulses > easily and I have been told the K3 is way better. I have to believe that. Forget it! As much as I like my K3 (and I really do!) the NB + NR are the worst I ever experienced. The Icom NB is running circles around it ... just to put your expectations where they belong. ;-) Besides this you'll probably love the radio ... as do I. ;-) 73, Olli - DH8BQA From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Mon May 16 04:08:41 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 09:08:41 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] NB issue In-Reply-To: <00e201d1aefe$7738ea80$65aabf80$@nbnet.nb.ca> References: <00d601d1aef7$4485ce70$cd916b50$@nbnet.nb.ca> <5BE03DAF-0303-401A-80B2-81928B6E2A74@yahoo.co.uk> <390CB844-5B25-4301-B403-FB9EE425198F@widomaker.com> <00e201d1aefe$7738ea80$65aabf80$@nbnet.nb.ca> Message-ID: <4812A62B-3309-4AA0-A481-AE4C2941ACFE@yahoo.co.uk> Mike, I think Bill was alluding to my answer which on the face of it didn't make any sense, but what I was trying to determine was whether stray RF may have been doing something to the K3 NB circuitry during transmit as you suggested you thought the NB started to flash after transmitting, hence my suggestion to eliminate any possibility by using a dummy load, that's all. Now thanks to the group we have the correct answer, the NB annunciation legend can flash when the I.F. blanker setting is too high for the signals. It will stop flashing when transmitting and start again back on receive. I should have searched the electronic manual, that is what I generally do in iBooks on the iPad where I keep all my radio manuals. It is generally easier than manually searching the paper copy which is safely stored away in a file. I don't own a K3, hence me not knowing about the significance of the flashing NB, I use the KX3 and find the noise blanker works very well on powerline noise, narrow pulses, ignition spark type noise. I would find it strange and disappointing if the K3's blanker was poorer than the KX3's. What is puzzling is that you say it electric fence pulses that the NB is struggling with, I would have thought that is one of the easiest things to blank out, a simple I.F. Blanker shouldn't have a problem with that. Like so many controls that give you a lot of user settings there are benefits and also problems, mostly the defaults are a good starting point, but changing too many settings at once will not help. You have to be methodical and change one thing at a time and see what the effect if any is. I have used the KX3 as my main rig for more than a year and am still finding things about it that I didn't know. It's part of the joy. 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 16 May 2016, at 00:06, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote: > > I am not sure what you are eluding to Bill, but suffice to say I don;'t > think you understand the issue. > Once I have transmitted, the NB flashes and will stay flashing forever. > (while I am sitting there receiving) > Also, the NB seems to do little to nothing. > > I am not a K3 engineer, but I am now SURE this is not how it's supposed to > work. > > I am going to crack the radio open tomorrow and see if the board has come > loose during shipping. > > Please don't anyone email me again asking me to look at the page in the > manual concerning the NB. (I have had a number of you do that and > even send me a copy of the page. ) > > I give you my word I have read it and have read it again!. Regardless of > settings the NB letters flash. (when invoking IF NB_) > > Something is not correct :-) > > Mike VE9AA > > Mike, Coreen & Corey > Keswick Ridge, NB > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nr4c [mailto:nr4c at widomaker.com] > Sent: May 15, 2016 8:00 PM > To: David Anderson > Cc: Mike Smith VE9AA; elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] NB issue > > What effect do you expect when transmitting? I would think "nothing" since > NB is a Receive function. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Mon May 16 05:34:28 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 01:34:28 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] Travel Case for K3 Message-ID: <201605160935.u4G9Z7SP010321@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> I like the Pelican cases. We used them extensively for portable HT Field kits at my former work (we had about 14 of them). They are rated waterproof to extreme depth (Navy Seals use them for equipment). The new cases come with perforated foam inserts which you can remove to make a custom fit space for equipment. Extremely durable from dropping or being run over. But they are expensive so shop around on line as often one can get up to 50% off MFRP. I have two. One encloses my 10-GHz portable station which includes my KX3-2M. I used to be able to carry-on airlines but stopped due to TSA screening. Now I pre-ship with FedEx to my destination hotel. The other one fit a FT-726 VHF satellite radio and could easily accommodate a K3. I do not travel with my K3 so it does not see much use. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From droese at necg.de Mon May 16 05:40:43 2016 From: droese at necg.de (=?UTF-8?Q?Oliver_Dr=c3=b6se?=) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 11:40:43 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] NB issue In-Reply-To: <4812A62B-3309-4AA0-A481-AE4C2941ACFE@yahoo.co.uk> References: <00d601d1aef7$4485ce70$cd916b50$@nbnet.nb.ca> <5BE03DAF-0303-401A-80B2-81928B6E2A74@yahoo.co.uk> <390CB844-5B25-4301-B403-FB9EE425198F@widomaker.com> <00e201d1aefe$7738ea80$65aabf80$@nbnet.nb.ca> <4812A62B-3309-4AA0-A481-AE4C2941ACFE@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <38e60217-9ab8-c962-f207-c96722ab17b8@necg.de> Hi David, > I don't own a K3, hence me not knowing about the significance of the flashing NB, I use the KX3 and find the noise blanker works very well on powerline noise, narrow pulses, ignition spark type noise. I would find it strange and disappointing if the K3's blanker was poorer than the KX3's. I have both and the KX3's NB is definitely much better than the K3's (although still worse than the Icom NBs). Probably a question of the newer DSP chip in the KX3 and maybe updated DSP code, too (on which Lyle, KK7P, could chime in). 73, Olli - DH8BQA From scott at nx7u.net Mon May 16 07:29:34 2016 From: scott at nx7u.net (Scott Townley) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 07:29:34 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 145, Issue 16 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The easiest way I've found to reroute signal lines in these sorts of cables is to build a little "adapter" of back-to-back DB shells (9, 15, 25), one male and one female, separated by a pair of 1" 4-40 hex standoffs. You then wire between the shells whatever pinout changes you need. Relatively straightforward and doesn't wreck the original cable. That's how I did it on my setup (identical to yours). > > > Message: 21 > Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 11:43:05 -0400 > From: Art > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 with K3/0 and remote rig > Message-ID: <154b515cd69-3fd8-1c324 at webprd-a54.mail.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi all, > > > Interested in using the KPA500 via remote. K3/0 manual states that a simple mod to the KPAK3AUX cable is needed. > > > However, this cable from factory has a molded shell on both ends. Anyone figured out how to access it to make the wiring connection needed? > > > Thanks. > > > Art KZ5D > > > ------------------------------ > > From radioham at mchsi.com Mon May 16 08:22:40 2016 From: radioham at mchsi.com (David Christ) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 07:22:40 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Travel Case for K3 In-Reply-To: <201605160935.u4G9Z7SP010321@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201605160935.u4G9Z7SP010321@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <5884E9B5-FEDB-4700-A64A-D7A01BF71DBC@mchsi.com> What issues with TSA caused you to start shipping via FedEx? I experienced no problems the last time I came and was planning to bring something again when we come up to take care of our grandson. Isn?t FedEx rather pricy to and from Alaska? David K0LUM > On May 16, 2016, at 4:34 AM, Edward R Cole wrote: > > I used to be able to carry-on airlines but stopped due to TSA screening. Now I pre-ship with FedEx to my destination hotel. David K0LUM From skavanagh72 at yahoo.ca Mon May 16 10:01:20 2016 From: skavanagh72 at yahoo.ca (Steve Kavanagh) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 14:01:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] [K2] External amplifier keying circuit question References: <431871909.2739417.1463407280857.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <431871909.2739417.1463407280857.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I'm planning to add?an external amplifier/transverter keying circuit to one of my K2s.? I found two versions on the web, both apparently designed by N0SS (SK).? The one on the Elecraft site (http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/Amp_keying_ckt.htm ) appears to be his original circuit, using a 2N7000 driving a 2N2222.? The archive of Tom's later?kit offering?(http://www.mmccs.com/mmarc/n0ss/k2_t-r_rly_drvr.pdf ) uses two MOSFETs and is capable of keying somewhat higher voltage and current.? But also he added a 100k resistor?from the input gate (8R)?to?ground and another from the gate of the second MOSFET to ground. I am trying to figure out if these two 100 k resistors serve any useful purpose or if I can happily leave them both out of the 2-MOSFET circuit.? There doesn't immediately appear to be any need to pull these gates down as there are several loads on the input 8R voltage (on the K2 RF board)?which will do that for the 1st MOSFET, and the 1st MOSFET will pull down the gate of the 2nd one when needed.? Maybe something odd will happen on power-up or power-down? Any thoughts? 73,Steve VE3SMA From k9ma at sdellington.us Mon May 16 11:04:01 2016 From: k9ma at sdellington.us (Scott Ellington) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 10:04:01 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 NB In-Reply-To: <38e60217-9ab8-c962-f207-c96722ab17b8@necg.de> References: <00d601d1aef7$4485ce70$cd916b50$@nbnet.nb.ca> <5BE03DAF-0303-401A-80B2-81928B6E2A74@yahoo.co.uk> <390CB844-5B25-4301-B403-FB9EE425198F@widomaker.com> <00e201d1aefe$7738ea80$65aabf80$@nbnet.nb.ca> <4812A62B-3309-4AA0-A481-AE4C2941ACFE@yahoo.co.uk> <38e60217-9ab8-c962-f207-c96722ab17b8@necg.de> Message-ID: <7cc6a772-48d5-eacb-e502-1bde4ba57001@sdellington.us> On 5/16/2016 04:40, Oliver Dr?se wrote: > I have both and the KX3's NB is definitely much better than the K3's > (although still worse than the Icom NBs). Probably a question of the > newer DSP chip in the KX3 and maybe updated DSP code, too (on which > Lyle, KK7P, could chime in). One of the (few) disappointments of my K3 is the NB. I've never found any settings which are effective against power line noise under any conditions, even on a quiet band. My old FT-1000D NB, on the other hand, can be very effective against that same noise, provided the band isn't full of strong signals. Neither is useful in contests, of course. Given the way the NB's in both transceivers work (wide filter ahead of NB), neither can be effective with strong signals nearby. My dream is that Elecraft could provide a way to use the subreceiver to detect noise outside the band, and control the NB in the main receiver. Or perhaps some day I'll figure out how to do that myself. However, first the K3 NB has to work in the absence of strong signals, which it does not. -- Scott Ellington K9MA Madison, Wisconsin, USA k9ma at sdellington.us From riese-k3djc at juno.com Mon May 16 11:57:33 2016 From: riese-k3djc at juno.com (riese-k3djc at juno.com) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 11:57:33 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 NB Message-ID: lots of opinions,,, what I take away is regardless of the update ( I am woefully behind ) the NB on the K3 doesnt work well on power line noise,,, this is my experience as well but I am behind on the software upgrades Bob K3DJC > One of the (few) disappointments of my K3 is the NB. I've never > found > any settings which are effective against power line noise under any > > conditions, From todd at ruby-wine.com Mon May 16 12:07:55 2016 From: todd at ruby-wine.com (todd ruby) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 12:07:55 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] circuit breaker Message-ID: Would anyone venture to guess what would cause the circuit breaker to trip on a K3? Mine did all of a sudden yesterday. Fortunately, my friend suggested the reset and voila, I am back on the air. But if there is an underlying cause, I think it would be wise to be aware of it so as to preclude this episode from repeating. Any thoughts are welcome. 73 todd WB2ZAB From donwilh at embarqmail.com Mon May 16 12:50:38 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 12:50:38 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [K2] External amplifier keying circuit question In-Reply-To: <431871909.2739417.1463407280857.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <431871909.2739417.1463407280857.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <431871909.2739417.1463407280857.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Steve, It is not a good idea to leave the gate of a MOSFET with no static drain on it. When the board is removed from the K2 the gate at the input is exposed - thus the 100k The 100k between the 2 devices might be omitted if you wish. The first link you mentioned is Eric Swartz work - the second is from Tom Hammond (SK). I would recommend Tom's version. The 2nd FET could be a 2N7000 if it will handle the current and voltage that you have to deal with. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/16/2016 10:01 AM, Steve Kavanagh via Elecraft wrote: > I'm planning to add an external amplifier/transverter keying circuit to one of my K2s. I found two versions on the web, both apparently designed by N0SS (SK). The one on the Elecraft site (http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/Amp_keying_ckt.htm ) appears to be his original circuit, using a 2N7000 driving a 2N2222. The archive of Tom's later kit offering (http://www.mmccs.com/mmarc/n0ss/k2_t-r_rly_drvr.pdf ) uses two MOSFETs and is capable of keying somewhat higher voltage and current. But also he added a 100k resistor from the input gate (8R) to ground and another from the gate of the second MOSFET to ground. > I am trying to figure out if these two 100 k resistors serve any useful purpose or if I can happily leave them both out of the 2-MOSFET circuit. There doesn't immediately appear to be any need to pull these gates down as there are several loads on the input 8R voltage (on the K2 RF board) which will do that for the 1st MOSFET, and the 1st MOSFET will pull down the gate of the 2nd one when needed. Maybe something odd will happen on power-up or power-down? > Any thoughts? > From kg6mti at sbcglobal.net Mon May 16 12:55:05 2016 From: kg6mti at sbcglobal.net (David Davis) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 10:55:05 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] circuit breaker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Check if the breaker is an AFCI type breaker. If it is there is an article on the ARRL site with details on how you might get them replaced for free. I just went through this with mine. Homes built after 2011 have arc fault tolerant (AFCI) breakers. The RF can cause them to open. I contacted the Eaton using the information from ARRL and Eaton sent me all new breakers for free. It ended up being about $300 in breakers. Here is a link to the ARRL article. http://www.arrl.org/news/arrl-helps-manufacturer-to-resolve-arc-fault-circuit-interrupter-rfi-problems Hope this helps David KG6MTI Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2016, at 10:07, todd ruby wrote: > > Would anyone venture to guess what would cause the circuit breaker to trip on a K3? Mine did all of a sudden yesterday. Fortunately, my friend suggested the reset and voila, I am back on the air. But if there is an underlying cause, I think it would be wise to be aware of it so as to preclude this episode from repeating. Any thoughts are welcome. > > 73 > > todd > > WB2ZAB > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kg6mti at sbcglobal.net From pincon at erols.com Mon May 16 13:07:06 2016 From: pincon at erols.com (Charlie T, K3ICH) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 13:07:06 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] circuit breaker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00a001d1af95$641ee7f0$2c5cb7d0$@erols.com> I'm fairly sure he's talking about the circuit breaker IN the radio, rather than an AC mains breaker Charlie k3ICH -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Davis Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 12:55 PM To: todd ruby Cc: Elecraft Reflector Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] circuit breaker Check if the breaker is an AFCI type breaker. If it is there is an article on the ARRL site with details on how you might get them replaced for free. I just went through this with mine. Homes built after 2011 have arc fault tolerant (AFCI) breakers. The RF can cause them to open. I contacted the Eaton using the information from ARRL and Eaton sent me all new breakers for free. It ended up being about $300 in breakers. Here is a link to the ARRL article. http://www.arrl.org/news/arrl-helps-manufacturer-to-resolve-arc-fault-circui t-interrupter-rfi-problems Hope this helps David KG6MTI Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2016, at 10:07, todd ruby wrote: > > Would anyone venture to guess what would cause the circuit breaker to trip on a K3? Mine did all of a sudden yesterday. Fortunately, my friend suggested the reset and voila, I am back on the air. But if there is an underlying cause, I think it would be wise to be aware of it so as to preclude this episode from repeating. Any thoughts are welcome. > > 73 > > todd > > WB2ZAB > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > kg6mti at sbcglobal.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pincon at erols.com From ron at cobi.biz Mon May 16 13:28:02 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 10:28:02 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] circuit breaker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001501d1af98$4d6f13b0$e84d3b10$@biz> The normal underlying cause for the breaker to open is over-current. That's a 20A breaker that protects only the KPA3 100 watt amplifier module. The first thing I'd do is check the current drain from your power supply on the band where you experienced the problem. First set the power to 10 watts so the KPA3 is bypassed and note the total current drain key down. Now crank up the power and see if the part used by the KPA3 is pushing 20A. For example, if your total current at 10 W was 3A, does the total at 100 watts approach 23A? IF so, the breaker was simply doing its job. Note that circuit breakers are not precision devices so it may trip a couple of amperes one way or the other from 20A. A primary reason for excessive KPA3 current is a high SWR on your antenna system. The higher the SWR, the less efficient the KPA3 becomes and the more current it has to draw to produce the power. A defective breaker can also start tripping at lower currents. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of todd ruby Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 9:08 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] circuit breaker Would anyone venture to guess what would cause the circuit breaker to trip on a K3? Mine did all of a sudden yesterday. Fortunately, my friend suggested the reset and voila, I am back on the air. But if there is an underlying cause, I think it would be wise to be aware of it so as to preclude this episode from repeating. Any thoughts are welcome. 73 todd WB2ZAB From ac5p at sbcglobal.net Mon May 16 15:18:27 2016 From: ac5p at sbcglobal.net (ac5p at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 19:18:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] circuit breaker In-Reply-To: <001501d1af98$4d6f13b0$e84d3b10$@biz> References: <001501d1af98$4d6f13b0$e84d3b10$@biz> Message-ID: <791692478.3705685.1463426307278.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I believe Todd is referring to the breaker on the K3, not his house panel circuit?Ron has some good advice, but I wonder how common this circuit breaker operates?? I looked thru my manual for more info on it.? The block diagram shows it as a 25A fuse,text and device indicate 20A circuit breaker, but?NO ?info on the type operating curve, or current vs. time for minimum trip? I have a 10A circuit breaker on my 40Ahr battery supply and it has never tripped.? It is a thermal time delay like most house breakers. Anyone out there have any clue??? Wayne???? ? Mike? AC5P On Monday, May 16, 2016 12:28 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: The normal underlying cause for the breaker to open is over-current. That's a 20A breaker that protects only the KPA3 100 watt amplifier module. The first thing I'd do is check the current drain from your power supply on the band where you experienced the problem. First set the power to 10 watts so the KPA3 is bypassed and note the total current drain key down. Now crank up the power and see if the part used by the KPA3 is pushing 20A. For example, if your total current at 10 W was 3A, does the total at 100 watts approach 23A? IF so, the breaker was simply doing its job. Note that circuit breakers are not precision devices so it may trip a couple of amperes one way or the other from 20A. A primary reason for excessive KPA3 current is a high SWR on your antenna system. The higher the SWR, the less efficient the KPA3 becomes and the more current it has to draw to produce the power. A defective breaker can also start tripping at lower currents. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of todd ruby Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 9:08 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] circuit breaker Would anyone venture to guess what would cause the circuit breaker to trip on a K3? Mine did all of a sudden yesterday. Fortunately, my friend suggested the reset and voila, I am back on the air. But if there is an underlying cause, I think it would be wise to be aware of it so as to preclude this episode from repeating. Any thoughts are welcome. 73 todd WB2ZAB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net/ Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ac5p at sbcglobal.net From ron at cobi.biz Mon May 16 15:30:02 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 12:30:02 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] circuit breaker In-Reply-To: <791692478.3705685.1463426307278.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <001501d1af98$4d6f13b0$e84d3b10$@biz> <791692478.3705685.1463426307278.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701d1afa9$580a9f40$081fddc0$@biz> Todd responded to me off the reflector that he lost all power to the K3 so it wasn?t the 20A breaker. That only controls power to the KPA3. The front panel is still powered and the receiver continues to work. I suggested it might be the self-resetting breaker inside the K3. That will turn it off completely. Actually power will still be on the KPA3 module and anything plugged into the 12V external power connector on the K3 rear panel, but the K3 itself will look dead with no front panel lights, receive or other functions until it cools and resets itself. I?ve never had an issue with either breaker opening unexpectedly. 73, Ron AC7AC From: ac5p at sbcglobal.net [mailto:ac5p at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 12:18 PM To: Ron D'Eau Claire; 'todd ruby'; 'Elecraft Reflector Reflector' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] circuit breaker I believe Todd is referring to the breaker on the K3, not his house panel circuit? Ron has some good advice, but I wonder how common this circuit breaker operates? I looked thru my manual for more info on it. The block diagram shows it as a 25A fuse, text and device indicate 20A circuit breaker, but NO info on the type operating curve, or current vs. time for minimum trip? I have a 10A circuit breaker on my 40Ahr battery supply and it has never tripped. It is a thermal time delay like most house breakers. Anyone out there have any clue? Wayne? Mike AC5P On Monday, May 16, 2016 12:28 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: The normal underlying cause for the breaker to open is over-current. That's a 20A breaker that protects only the KPA3 100 watt amplifier module. The first thing I'd do is check the current drain from your power supply on the band where you experienced the problem. First set the power to 10 watts so the KPA3 is bypassed and note the total current drain key down. Now crank up the power and see if the part used by the KPA3 is pushing 20A. For example, if your total current at 10 W was 3A, does the total at 100 watts approach 23A? IF so, the breaker was simply doing its job. Note that circuit breakers are not precision devices so it may trip a couple of amperes one way or the other from 20A. A primary reason for excessive KPA3 current is a high SWR on your antenna system. The higher the SWR, the less efficient the KPA3 becomes and the more current it has to draw to produce the power. A defective breaker can also start tripping at lower currents. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of todd ruby Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 9:08 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] circuit breaker Would anyone venture to guess what would cause the circuit breaker to trip on a K3? Mine did all of a sudden yesterday. Fortunately, my friend suggested the reset and voila, I am back on the air. But if there is an underlying cause, I think it would be wise to be aware of it so as to preclude this episode from repeating. Any thoughts are welcome. 73 todd WB2ZAB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net/ Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ac5p at sbcglobal.net From k6dgw at foothill.net Mon May 16 15:38:22 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 12:38:22 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 NB In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Noise blankers have never worked well, or at all, on most power line noise which is usually caused by very small arcing in the distribution line [usually around 12 KV in the US] hardware on the poles. It's multiple arcs, and the noise pulses from each one overlap each other producing the rough buzz. The K3 IF NB worked far better than great for me when I was surrounded by electric fences and it's puzzling that anyone is having problems getting it to work. Ignition noise tends to be a thing of the past, but in the few times I've encountered it. the NB was extremely effective as well, and easy to adjust. I don't remember who first came up with it ... I thin Art Collins had some role ... but it was light years ahead of the old Lamb Noise Limiters such as in the SX-28. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org On 5/16/2016 8:57 AM, riese-k3djc at juno.com wrote: > > lots of opinions,,, what I take away is regardless of the update ( I am > woefully behind ) > the NB on the K3 doesnt work well on power line noise,,, this is my > experience as well > but I am behind on the software upgrades > > Bob K3DJC From ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca Mon May 16 16:07:39 2016 From: ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca (Mike Smith VE9AA) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 17:07:39 -0300 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 NB Message-ID: <002101d1afae$aa3c64b0$feb52e10$@nbnet.nb.ca> I wish I could find the email from this weekend from the fellow who asked me if the NB works on the 2nd receiver. I hadn't used the 2nd receiver really much at all (only had the rig a few days) and was hesitant to play with it until I learned a little more about the rig in general. Anyways - an AHA! -moment. The IF Noise Blanker actually works pretty well on the 2nd receiver. So, that leads me to believe that there's something about the primary rx that is not quite right. Are there two KNB3 blanker boards in an early K3 with two receivers? Can I revert the firmware back to 4.83 (I saved it to a folder before upgrading to the latest) and see if somehow the blanker was maybe shut off, then turn it back on, then re: upgrade the firmware? I just knew there was something up! BTW, it was only the first day I had the radio that I heard relays clickity clacking when I had the NB engaged. Now I just transmit once or twice, and the NB letters flash. (no relay noise) 2nd receiver NB seems fine. Is it easy to find the KNB3 board(s) ? Tnx to whoever it was who asked about that.(kudos and give yourself a pat on the back) - you were the only one in 25+ ops to suggest that). At least now I know the NB does in fact WORK in these Elecraft beasts..but only in my 2nd RX. Mike VE9AA Mike, Coreen & Corey Keswick Ridge, NB From ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca Mon May 16 16:14:36 2016 From: ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca (Mike Smith VE9AA) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 17:14:36 -0300 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 NB Message-ID: <002701d1afaf$a2d41280$e87c3780$@nbnet.nb.ca> Just found it. Tony, N2TK asked about the 2nd rx. Good on ya Tony. At least I am making headway. Can the KNB3's be swapped guys or is there a lot more to it? Mike VE9AA Mike, Coreen & Corey Keswick Ridge, NB From: Mike Smith VE9AA [mailto:ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca] Sent: May 16, 2016 5:08 PM To: 'elecraft at mailman.qth.net' Subject: K3 NB I wish I could find the email from this weekend from the fellow who asked me if the NB works on the 2nd receiver. I hadn't used the 2nd receiver really much at all (only had the rig a few days) and was hesitant to play with it until I learned a little more about the rig in general. Anyways - an AHA! -moment. The IF Noise Blanker actually works pretty well on the 2nd receiver. So, that leads me to believe that there's something about the primary rx that is not quite right. Are there two KNB3 blanker boards in an early K3 with two receivers? Can I revert the firmware back to 4.83 (I saved it to a folder before upgrading to the latest) and see if somehow the blanker was maybe shut off, then turn it back on, then re: upgrade the firmware? I just knew there was something up! BTW, it was only the first day I had the radio that I heard relays clickity clacking when I had the NB engaged. Now I just transmit once or twice, and the NB letters flash. (no relay noise) 2nd receiver NB seems fine. Is it easy to find the KNB3 board(s) ? Tnx to whoever it was who asked about that.(kudos and give yourself a pat on the back) - you were the only one in 25+ ops to suggest that). At least now I know the NB does in fact WORK in these Elecraft beasts..but only in my 2nd RX. Mike VE9AA Mike, Coreen & Corey Keswick Ridge, NB From droese at necg.de Mon May 16 16:29:00 2016 From: droese at necg.de (=?UTF-8?Q?Oliver_Dr=c3=b6se?=) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 22:29:00 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 NB In-Reply-To: <002101d1afae$aa3c64b0$feb52e10$@nbnet.nb.ca> References: <002101d1afae$aa3c64b0$feb52e10$@nbnet.nb.ca> Message-ID: Hi Mike, yes, there are two KNB3s installed if you have the Sub-RX: one on the Main and one on the Sub. And yes, you can swap'em. 73, Olli - DH8BQA Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de Am 16.05.2016 um 22:07 schrieb Mike Smith VE9AA: > I wish I could find the email from this weekend from the fellow who asked me > if the NB works on the 2nd receiver. > > I hadn't used the 2nd receiver really much at all (only had the rig a few > days) and was hesitant to play with it until I learned a little more about > the rig in general. > > > > Anyways - an AHA! -moment. The IF Noise Blanker actually works pretty well > on the 2nd receiver. So, that leads me to believe that there's something > about the primary rx that is not quite right. > > > > Are there two KNB3 blanker boards in an early K3 with two receivers? > > > > Can I revert the firmware back to 4.83 (I saved it to a folder before > upgrading to the latest) and see if somehow the blanker was maybe shut off, > then turn it back on, then re: upgrade the firmware? > > > > I just knew there was something up! > > > > BTW, it was only the first day I had the radio that I heard relays clickity > clacking when I had the NB engaged. Now I just transmit once or twice, and > the NB letters flash. (no relay noise) > > 2nd receiver NB seems fine. > > > > Is it easy to find the KNB3 board(s) ? > > > > Tnx to whoever it was who asked about that.(kudos and give yourself a pat on > the back) - you were the only one in 25+ ops to suggest that). > > At least now I know the NB does in fact WORK in these Elecraft beasts..but > only in my 2nd RX. > > > > Mike VE9AA > > > > Mike, Coreen & Corey > > Keswick Ridge, NB > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to droese at necg.de > From dmb at lightstream.net Mon May 16 16:32:21 2016 From: dmb at lightstream.net (Dale Boresz) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 16:32:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Elecraft] K3 NB In-Reply-To: <002701d1afaf$a2d41280$e87c3780$@nbnet.nb.ca> References: <002701d1afaf$a2d41280$e87c3780$@nbnet.nb.ca> Message-ID: <50670.71.74.118.201.1463430741.squirrel@mail.expedient.net> Mike, Yes, the KNB3's can be swapped. But if you'll be in there anyway, I'd strongly suggest that you first remove and then re-insert the KNB3 module in your main receiver first. Then try it out and see if the blinking "NB" issue persists. If not, you're done. Otherwise, swapping them and observing the results would provide some additional useful data points. 73, Dale - WA8SRA > Just found it. Tony, N2TK asked about the 2nd rx. Good on ya Tony. At > least I am making headway. > > > > Can the KNB3's be swapped guys or is there a lot more to it? > > > > Mike VE9AA > > > > Mike, Coreen & Corey > > Keswick Ridge, NB > > > > From: Mike Smith VE9AA [mailto:ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca] > Sent: May 16, 2016 5:08 PM > To: 'elecraft at mailman.qth.net' > Subject: K3 NB > > > > I wish I could find the email from this weekend from the fellow who asked > me > if the NB works on the 2nd receiver. > > I hadn't used the 2nd receiver really much at all (only had the rig a few > days) and was hesitant to play with it until I learned a little more about > the rig in general. > > > > Anyways - an AHA! -moment. The IF Noise Blanker actually works pretty > well > on the 2nd receiver. So, that leads me to believe that there's something > about the primary rx that is not quite right. > > > > Are there two KNB3 blanker boards in an early K3 with two receivers? > > > > Can I revert the firmware back to 4.83 (I saved it to a folder before > upgrading to the latest) and see if somehow the blanker was maybe shut > off, > then turn it back on, then re: upgrade the firmware? > > > > I just knew there was something up! > > > > BTW, it was only the first day I had the radio that I heard relays > clickity > clacking when I had the NB engaged. Now I just transmit once or twice, > and > the NB letters flash. (no relay noise) > > 2nd receiver NB seems fine. > > > > Is it easy to find the KNB3 board(s) ? > > > > Tnx to whoever it was who asked about that.(kudos and give yourself a pat > on > the back) - you were the only one in 25+ ops to suggest that). > > At least now I know the NB does in fact WORK in these Elecraft > beasts..but > only in my 2nd RX. > > > > Mike VE9AA > > > > Mike, Coreen & Corey > > Keswick Ridge, NB > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dmb at lightstream.net > From todd at ruby-wine.com Mon May 16 16:40:07 2016 From: todd at ruby-wine.com (Todd Ruby) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 16:40:07 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] circuit breaker In-Reply-To: <001701d1afa9$580a9f40$081fddc0$@biz> References: <001501d1af98$4d6f13b0$e84d3b10$@biz> <791692478.3705685.1463426307278.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <001701d1afa9$580a9f40$081fddc0$@biz> Message-ID: Well Ron, I guess there's a first time for everything. Although the radio was deaf and dumb, I had display function and it looked as it normally does after turning on the power. There was just no receive nor output power. I turned it off, pressed the 20 amp circuit breaker on the rear panel and sigs were coming through the headphones and I had full power. Today it's also operating perfectly. 73 Todd > On May 16, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > > Todd responded to me off the reflector that he lost all power to the K3 so it wasn?t the 20A breaker. That only controls power to the KPA3. The front panel is still powered and the receiver continues to work. > > I suggested it might be the self-resetting breaker inside the K3. That will turn it off completely. Actually power will still be on the KPA3 module and anything plugged into the 12V external power connector on the K3 rear panel, but the K3 itself will look dead with no front panel lights, receive or other functions until it cools and resets itself. > > I?ve never had an issue with either breaker opening unexpectedly. > > 73, Ron AC7AC > > From: ac5p at sbcglobal.net [mailto:ac5p at sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 12:18 PM > To: Ron D'Eau Claire; 'todd ruby'; 'Elecraft Reflector Reflector' > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] circuit breaker > > I believe Todd is referring to the breaker on the K3, not his house panel circuit? > Ron has some good advice, but I wonder how common this circuit breaker operates? > > I looked thru my manual for more info on it. The block diagram shows it as a 25A fuse, > text and device indicate 20A circuit breaker, but NO info on the type operating curve, or current vs. time for minimum trip? > > I have a 10A circuit breaker on my 40Ahr battery supply and it has never tripped. It is a thermal time delay like most house breakers. > > Anyone out there have any clue? Wayne? > > Mike AC5P > > > > On Monday, May 16, 2016 12:28 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > > > The normal underlying cause for the breaker to open is over-current. That's > a 20A breaker that protects only the KPA3 100 watt amplifier module. The > first thing I'd do is check the current drain from your power supply on the > band where you experienced the problem. First set the power to 10 watts so > the KPA3 is bypassed and note the total current drain key down. Now crank up > the power and see if the part used by the KPA3 is pushing 20A. For example, > if your total current at 10 W was 3A, does the total at 100 watts approach > 23A? IF so, the breaker was simply doing its job. Note that circuit breakers > are not precision devices so it may trip a couple of amperes one way or the > other from 20A. > > A primary reason for excessive KPA3 current is a high SWR on your antenna > system. The higher the SWR, the less efficient the KPA3 becomes and the more > current it has to draw to produce the power. > > A defective breaker can also start tripping at lower currents. > > 73, Ron AC7AC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of todd > ruby > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 9:08 AM > To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] circuit breaker > > Would anyone venture to guess what would cause the circuit breaker to trip > on a K3? Mine did all of a sudden yesterday. Fortunately, my friend > suggested the reset and voila, I am back on the air. But if there is an > underlying cause, I think it would be wise to be aware of it so as to > preclude this episode from repeating. Any thoughts are welcome. > > 73 > > todd > > WB2ZAB > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net/ > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ac5p at sbcglobal.net > From tony.kaz at verizon.net Mon May 16 16:39:56 2016 From: tony.kaz at verizon.net (N2TK, Tony) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 16:39:56 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 NB In-Reply-To: <002701d1afaf$a2d41280$e87c3780$@nbnet.nb.ca> References: <002701d1afaf$a2d41280$e87c3780$@nbnet.nb.ca> Message-ID: <000c01d1afb3$1bda1960$538e4c20$@verizon.net> Mike, They can be swapped. You need to take out the second receiver to get to the one on the main rf board. One screw takes each one out. Make sure on the rf board that there are two lockwashers between the NB standoff and the rf board. Take the screw out and the bard pulls out. Swap them and put it back together. See if you swapped the problem. 73, N2TK, Tony -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Smith VE9AA Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 4:15 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 NB Just found it. Tony, N2TK asked about the 2nd rx. Good on ya Tony. At least I am making headway. Can the KNB3's be swapped guys or is there a lot more to it? Mike VE9AA Mike, Coreen & Corey Keswick Ridge, NB From: Mike Smith VE9AA [mailto:ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca] Sent: May 16, 2016 5:08 PM To: 'elecraft at mailman.qth.net' Subject: K3 NB I wish I could find the email from this weekend from the fellow who asked me if the NB works on the 2nd receiver. I hadn't used the 2nd receiver really much at all (only had the rig a few days) and was hesitant to play with it until I learned a little more about the rig in general. Anyways - an AHA! -moment. The IF Noise Blanker actually works pretty well on the 2nd receiver. So, that leads me to believe that there's something about the primary rx that is not quite right. Are there two KNB3 blanker boards in an early K3 with two receivers? Can I revert the firmware back to 4.83 (I saved it to a folder before upgrading to the latest) and see if somehow the blanker was maybe shut off, then turn it back on, then re: upgrade the firmware? I just knew there was something up! BTW, it was only the first day I had the radio that I heard relays clickity clacking when I had the NB engaged. Now I just transmit once or twice, and the NB letters flash. (no relay noise) 2nd receiver NB seems fine. Is it easy to find the KNB3 board(s) ? Tnx to whoever it was who asked about that.(kudos and give yourself a pat on the back) - you were the only one in 25+ ops to suggest that). At least now I know the NB does in fact WORK in these Elecraft beasts..but only in my 2nd RX. Mike VE9AA Mike, Coreen & Corey Keswick Ridge, NB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tony.kaz at verizon.net From donwilh at embarqmail.com Mon May 16 16:42:54 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 16:42:54 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 NB In-Reply-To: <002701d1afaf$a2d41280$e87c3780$@nbnet.nb.ca> References: <002701d1afaf$a2d41280$e87c3780$@nbnet.nb.ca> Message-ID: <094b0d45-4aa0-0d99-0e78-451506fb5318@embarqmail.com> Mike, Good work to have discovered where the problem lies. You might want to obtain a new KNB3 board and simply replace the one in the mainRX. Yes, you can swap the KNB3 between the main and the sub, so if you want --- Look in the K3 assembly manual as well as the KRX3 manual to see where they are plugged in - as well as how to remove the KRX3 to get at the KNB3 board on the main board. The process is: Remove the top cover Remove the KRX3 assembly Take the top cover off the KRX3 and remove the KNB3 Remove the KNB3 from the main and put it in the KRX3 (the top cover can now go on) Put the KNB3 that was from the sub into the main Put the KRX3 in place being careful that both the SubIN and SubOUT boards are in place. Reconnect the cables to the KRX3 Put the top cover on. Job done. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/16/2016 4:14 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote: > Just found it. Tony, N2TK asked about the 2nd rx. Good on ya Tony. At > least I am making headway. > > > > Can the KNB3's be swapped guys or is there a lot more to it? > From OH2CG at kolumbus.fi Mon May 16 16:51:01 2016 From: OH2CG at kolumbus.fi (Pentti A J Pajunen) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 23:51:01 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] Funny audio output in kx3 Message-ID: <573A32B5.7010907@kolumbus.fi> Hi'ya all! Have any of You bumped with a phenomenon of KX3's audio output when using headphones or xternal speaker with amplifier (TBA 820), sounding like ghost-like space sound. This phenomenon doesn't xist when my rigs own internal speaker is in use. The funny sound gives me an expression of leak of sampling glitches from the processor. Is there some kind of possibility of bad or broken grounding inside the rig. Unsuitable input impedance of the external spkr amp, or bad headphones? My K3 once sounded alike, but was healed by upgrading the software. Any ideas for fixing? 73 & CU Penna OH2G, OH2CG From donwilh at embarqmail.com Mon May 16 16:59:29 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 16:59:29 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Funny audio output in kx3 In-Reply-To: <573A32B5.7010907@kolumbus.fi> References: <573A32B5.7010907@kolumbus.fi> Message-ID: Penna, Is there any chance that you have AFX turned on? If the delay is set too high, the sound in the headphones (or external stereo amplifier) will have a "ghost-like" quality to it. Since the internal speaker is only one channel, that effect will not be heard (AFX requires stereo output). 73, Don W3FPR On 5/16/2016 4:51 PM, Pentti A J Pajunen wrote: > Hi'ya all! > > Have any of You bumped with a phenomenon of KX3's audio output when > using headphones or xternal speaker with amplifier (TBA 820), sounding > like ghost-like space sound. This phenomenon doesn't xist when my rigs > own internal speaker is in use. The funny sound gives me an expression > of leak of sampling glitches from the processor. Is there some kind of > possibility of bad or broken grounding inside the rig. Unsuitable > input impedance of the external spkr amp, or bad headphones? From biggsbigbear at gmail.com Mon May 16 17:18:40 2016 From: biggsbigbear at gmail.com (Tony Rowland) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 14:18:40 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Buy kits Message-ID: Can you buy aK3s kit with all the bells an whistles at Daytona? Sent from my iPad From w7ox at socal.rr.com Mon May 16 17:33:30 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 14:33:30 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Buy kits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <70612a93-27bb-e3bb-614b-d0e6f429c127@socal.rr.com> Or do you mean Dayton? Phil W7OX On 5/16/16 2:18 PM, Tony Rowland wrote: > Can you buy aK3s kit with all the bells an whistles at Daytona? > > Sent from my iPad > > From donwilh at embarqmail.com Mon May 16 17:41:50 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 17:41:50 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Buy kits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tony, You can order one at Dayton, configured to your requirements. There will be several there who can help you configure it (options and filters) to best suit your operating preferences and station needs. The usual "show special" includes free shipping to any US address (except for the KPA500), and you will not have to pay Ohio sales tax. Of course if you are in California, you will have to pay their sales tax. Other states, no sales tax will be charged, and you will have to 'deal with' your own state for the sales tax on your own. BTW: Maybe it was a slip of the finger on your iPad, but don't go to Daytona (that is in Florida) - the hamvention is in Dayton, Ohio. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/16/2016 5:18 PM, Tony Rowland wrote: > Can you buy aK3s kit with all the bells an whistles at Daytona? > > Sent from my iPad > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com > From nr4c at widomaker.com Mon May 16 17:48:39 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 17:48:39 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 NB In-Reply-To: <000c01d1afb3$1bda1960$538e4c20$@verizon.net> References: <002701d1afaf$a2d41280$e87c3780$@nbnet.nb.ca> <000c01d1afb3$1bda1960$538e4c20$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <8127A877-F499-4489-8328-0A81491E749F@widomaker.com> Be sure if try to test before putting the KRX3 back in that you check the KRX3 install directions and replace the small jumper in the socket where the rear "extender" board goes. Else the radio won't turn on Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 16, 2016, at 4:39 PM, N2TK, Tony wrote: > > Mike, > They can be swapped. You need to take out the second receiver to get to the > one on the main rf board. One screw takes each one out. Make sure on the rf > board that there are two lockwashers between the NB standoff and the rf > board. > Take the screw out and the bard pulls out. Swap them and put it back > together. See if you swapped the problem. > > 73, > N2TK, Tony > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike > Smith VE9AA > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 4:15 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 NB > > Just found it. Tony, N2TK asked about the 2nd rx. Good on ya Tony. At > least I am making headway. > > > > Can the KNB3's be swapped guys or is there a lot more to it? > > > > Mike VE9AA > > > > Mike, Coreen & Corey > > Keswick Ridge, NB > > > > From: Mike Smith VE9AA [mailto:ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca] > Sent: May 16, 2016 5:08 PM > To: 'elecraft at mailman.qth.net' > Subject: K3 NB > > > > I wish I could find the email from this weekend from the fellow who asked me > if the NB works on the 2nd receiver. > > I hadn't used the 2nd receiver really much at all (only had the rig a few > days) and was hesitant to play with it until I learned a little more about > the rig in general. > > > > Anyways - an AHA! -moment. The IF Noise Blanker actually works pretty well > on the 2nd receiver. So, that leads me to believe that there's something > about the primary rx that is not quite right. > > > > Are there two KNB3 blanker boards in an early K3 with two receivers? > > > > Can I revert the firmware back to 4.83 (I saved it to a folder before > upgrading to the latest) and see if somehow the blanker was maybe shut off, > then turn it back on, then re: upgrade the firmware? > > > > I just knew there was something up! > > > > BTW, it was only the first day I had the radio that I heard relays clickity > clacking when I had the NB engaged. Now I just transmit once or twice, and > the NB letters flash. (no relay noise) > > 2nd receiver NB seems fine. > > > > Is it easy to find the KNB3 board(s) ? > > > > Tnx to whoever it was who asked about that.(kudos and give yourself a pat on > the back) - you were the only one in 25+ ops to suggest that). > > At least now I know the NB does in fact WORK in these Elecraft beasts..but > only in my 2nd RX. > > > > Mike VE9AA > > > > Mike, Coreen & Corey > > Keswick Ridge, NB > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to tony.kaz at verizon.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From eric at elecraft.com Mon May 16 17:52:10 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 14:52:10 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Phones Back Up Message-ID: <92f896d3-c56f-938f-96ca-65b75aa566c5@elecraft.com> We had a serious phone system problem this morning and just now got our phone system back on-line. If you called today or over the weekend and did not get an answer, or if you left a message and did not receive a call back, please call in again. We apologize for the inconvenience. We are watching the system closely and hopefully we are now in good shape. 73, Eric /elecraft.com/ From ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca Mon May 16 17:55:04 2016 From: ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca (Mike Smith VE9AA) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 18:55:04 -0300 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 NB Success in NB ! Message-ID: <003101d1afbd$ab5f3c00$021db400$@nbnet.nb.ca> YAY! With a little coaxing from the guys on this list and others, I felt very brave and partially disassembled the radio and reseated the KNB3 board and reinstalled. No luck. Same symptoms. Phooey ! So I decided to go for broke and swap the KNB3's between the main and sub receivers. Looking at the manuals, it didn't look to be too bad (I did it twice actually) and found that now both the main and the sub receivers work with the IF-NB's. I do note something a little odd, in that when I turn up the IF-NB settings on the sub-rx (which now has the questionable board) that sometimes I get a frying sound. It's repeatable. I also saw that once and only once on the main RX with IF NB engaged. Maybe that's what it's supposed to do if it's maxxed out. I haven't had a real solid test, but just ran it through a few bands and a few different settings,(just a few minutes) so by all means I don't have it dialed in, but when an electric fence pop goes from a solid s5 to perhaps an s0-s1 I can tell it's working. (before, almost nothing was happening) Also, no more flashing NB on either the main or sub receiver. (so far, anyways) Thanks everyone - couldn't have done it w/o you. I hope that's it for now. The SUB-RX is not exactly "easy" to come out. (especially since I wasn't the one to put it in, nor had I ever had a K3 apart. What a great group here. dit dit Mike VE9AA "NB" (hi) Mike, Coreen & Corey Keswick Ridge, NB From pgladysz at aol.com Mon May 16 18:05:28 2016 From: pgladysz at aol.com (Pete Gladysz) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 15:05:28 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Travel Case for K3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1463436328820-7617511.post@n2.nabble.com> I utilize a Pelican 1510 which is considered a FAA Roller. It's interior dimensions are 19.75x11x7.6". I designed a foam package utilizing high density polyethylene which provides protection for all the knobs and the fans. The Package carries a K3, MFJ 4125 Power Supply, Heil ProSet Headset, footswitch, bag for misc. wiring and connectors and the K3 Manual. Total weight is 30 Pounds which is critical for small airlines. Picture attached Pete K8PGJ -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Travel-Case-for-K3-tp7617430p7617511.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ken at arcomcontrollers.com Mon May 16 18:05:45 2016 From: ken at arcomcontrollers.com (Ken Arck) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 15:05:45 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Buy kits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I just ordered my K3S kit over the weekend. Hopefully it will ship before you guys leave for Dayton! Ken ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" From wa6nhc at gmail.com Mon May 16 18:27:47 2016 From: wa6nhc at gmail.com (Rick Bates (WA6NHC)) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 15:27:47 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] circuit breaker In-Reply-To: References: <001501d1af98$4d6f13b0$e84d3b10$@biz> <791692478.3705685.1463426307278.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <001701d1afa9$580a9f40$081fddc0$@biz> Message-ID: <7E18E261-91BE-4674-B7DF-2D8458BEFD2D@gmail.com> Is it possible that it 'belched' and the power reset is what really fixed it? 73, Rick WA6NHC Tiny iPhone keypad, spell check happens > On May 16, 2016, at 1:40 PM, Todd Ruby wrote: > > Well Ron, I guess there's a first time for everything. Although the radio was deaf and dumb, I had display function and it looked as it normally does after turning on the power. There was just no receive nor output power. > > I turned it off, pressed the 20 amp circuit breaker on the rear panel and sigs were coming through the headphones and I had full power. > > Today it's also operating perfectly. > > 73 > > Todd > >> On May 16, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: >> >> Todd responded to me off the reflector that he lost all power to the K3 so it wasn?t the 20A breaker. That only controls power to the KPA3. The front panel is still powered and the receiver continues to work. >> >> I suggested it might be the self-resetting breaker inside the K3. That will turn it off completely. Actually power will still be on the KPA3 module and anything plugged into the 12V external power connector on the K3 rear panel, but the K3 itself will look dead with no front panel lights, receive or other functions until it cools and resets itself. >> >> I?ve never had an issue with either breaker opening unexpectedly. >> >> 73, Ron AC7AC >> >> From: ac5p at sbcglobal.net [mailto:ac5p at sbcglobal.net] >> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 12:18 PM >> To: Ron D'Eau Claire; 'todd ruby'; 'Elecraft Reflector Reflector' >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] circuit breaker >> >> I believe Todd is referring to the breaker on the K3, not his house panel circuit? >> Ron has some good advice, but I wonder how common this circuit breaker operates? >> >> I looked thru my manual for more info on it. The block diagram shows it as a 25A fuse, >> text and device indicate 20A circuit breaker, but NO info on the type operating curve, or current vs. time for minimum trip? >> >> I have a 10A circuit breaker on my 40Ahr battery supply and it has never tripped. It is a thermal time delay like most house breakers. >> >> Anyone out there have any clue? Wayne? >> >> Mike AC5P >> >> >> >> On Monday, May 16, 2016 12:28 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: >> >> >> The normal underlying cause for the breaker to open is over-current. That's >> a 20A breaker that protects only the KPA3 100 watt amplifier module. The >> first thing I'd do is check the current drain from your power supply on the >> band where you experienced the problem. First set the power to 10 watts so >> the KPA3 is bypassed and note the total current drain key down. Now crank up >> the power and see if the part used by the KPA3 is pushing 20A. For example, >> if your total current at 10 W was 3A, does the total at 100 watts approach >> 23A? IF so, the breaker was simply doing its job. Note that circuit breakers >> are not precision devices so it may trip a couple of amperes one way or the >> other from 20A. >> >> A primary reason for excessive KPA3 current is a high SWR on your antenna >> system. The higher the SWR, the less efficient the KPA3 becomes and the more >> current it has to draw to produce the power. >> >> A defective breaker can also start tripping at lower currents. >> >> 73, Ron AC7AC >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of todd >> ruby >> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 9:08 AM >> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector >> Subject: [Elecraft] circuit breaker >> >> Would anyone venture to guess what would cause the circuit breaker to trip >> on a K3? Mine did all of a sudden yesterday. Fortunately, my friend >> suggested the reset and voila, I am back on the air. But if there is an >> underlying cause, I think it would be wise to be aware of it so as to >> preclude this episode from repeating. Any thoughts are welcome. >> >> 73 >> >> todd >> >> WB2ZAB >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net/ >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ac5p at sbcglobal.net >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wa6nhc at gmail.com From matt.vk2rq at gmail.com Mon May 16 19:52:37 2016 From: matt.vk2rq at gmail.com (Matt Maguire) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 23:52:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] [K2] External amplifier keying circuit question In-Reply-To: <431871909.2739417.1463407280857.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <431871909.2739417.1463407280857.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <431871909.2739417.1463407280857.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I did a bit of a write-up when I added the keying circuit to my K2 (based on the article on the Elecraft website), hopefully you find it useful:http://www.mwrs.org.au/2014/04/20/elecraft-k2-amplifier-keying-circuit/ 73, Matt VK2RQ On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 7:03 AM -0700, "Steve Kavanagh via Elecraft" wrote: I'm planning to add?an external amplifier/transverter keying circuit to one of my K2s.? I found two versions on the web, both apparently designed by N0SS (SK).? The one on the Elecraft site (http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/Amp_keying_ckt.htm ) appears to be his original circuit, using a 2N7000 driving a 2N2222.? The archive of Tom's later?kit offering?(http://www.mmccs.com/mmarc/n0ss/k2_t-r_rly_drvr.pdf ) uses two MOSFETs and is capable of keying somewhat higher voltage and current.? But also he added a 100k resistor?from the input gate (8R)?to?ground and another from the gate of the second MOSFET to ground. I am trying to figure out if these two 100 k resistors serve any useful purpose or if I can happily leave them both out of the 2-MOSFET circuit.? There doesn't immediately appear to be any need to pull these gates down as there are several loads on the input 8R voltage (on the K2 RF board)?which will do that for the 1st MOSFET, and the 1st MOSFET will pull down the gate of the 2nd one when needed.? Maybe something odd will happen on power-up or power-down? Any thoughts? 73,Steve VE3SMA ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to matt.vk2rq at gmail.com From skavanagh72 at yahoo.ca Mon May 16 19:53:56 2016 From: skavanagh72 at yahoo.ca (Steve Kavanagh) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 23:53:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] [K2] External amplifier keying circuit question References: <243984051.3122488.1463442836870.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <243984051.3122488.1463442836870.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks, Don.? Good point re the input side...I guess I'm not used to having plug-in boards in mind! Yes, I was thinking of a pair of 2N7000s - they are fine for the current and voltage?I need to switch. 73, Steve VE3SMA From rpfjeld at outlook.com Mon May 16 21:58:58 2016 From: rpfjeld at outlook.com (Richard Fjeld) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 20:58:58 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] circuit breaker In-Reply-To: <7E18E261-91BE-4674-B7DF-2D8458BEFD2D@gmail.com> References: <001501d1af98$4d6f13b0$e84d3b10$@biz> <791692478.3705685.1463426307278.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <001701d1afa9$580a9f40$081fddc0$@biz> <7E18E261-91BE-4674-B7DF-2D8458BEFD2D@gmail.com> Message-ID: I have seen breakers let go for no apparent reason. It seemed like it was a mechanical failure in the breaker. Dick, n0ce On 5/16/2016 5:27 PM, Rick Bates (WA6NHC) wrote: > Is it possible that it 'belched' and the power reset is what really fixed it? > > 73, > Rick WA6NHC > > Tiny iPhone keypad, spell check happens > >> On May 16, 2016, at 1:40 PM, Todd Ruby wrote: >> >> Well Ron, I guess there's a first time for everything. Although the radio was deaf and dumb, I had display function and it looked as it normally does after turning on the power. There was just no receive nor output power. >> >> I turned it off, pressed the 20 amp circuit breaker on the rear panel and sigs were coming through the headphones and I had full power. >> >> Today it's also operating perfectly. >> >> 73 >> >> Todd >> >>> On May 16, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: >>> >>> Todd responded to me off the reflector that he lost all power to the K3 so it wasn?t the 20A breaker. That only controls power to the KPA3. The front panel is still powered and the receiver continues to work. >>> >>> I suggested it might be the self-resetting breaker inside the K3. That will turn it off completely. Actually power will still be on the KPA3 module and anything plugged into the 12V external power connector on the K3 rear panel, but the K3 itself will look dead with no front panel lights, receive or other functions until it cools and resets itself. >>> >>> I?ve never had an issue with either breaker opening unexpectedly. >>> >>> 73, Ron AC7AC >>> >>> From: ac5p at sbcglobal.net [mailto:ac5p at sbcglobal.net] >>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 12:18 PM >>> To: Ron D'Eau Claire; 'todd ruby'; 'Elecraft Reflector Reflector' >>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] circuit breaker >>> >>> I believe Todd is referring to the breaker on the K3, not his house panel circuit? >>> Ron has some good advice, but I wonder how common this circuit breaker operates? >>> >>> I looked thru my manual for more info on it. The block diagram shows it as a 25A fuse, >>> text and device indicate 20A circuit breaker, but NO info on the type operating curve, or current vs. time for minimum trip? >>> >>> I have a 10A circuit breaker on my 40Ahr battery supply and it has never tripped. It is a thermal time delay like most house breakers. >>> >>> Anyone out there have any clue? Wayne? >>> >>> Mike AC5P >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, May 16, 2016 12:28 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: >>> >>> >>> The normal underlying cause for the breaker to open is over-current. That's >>> a 20A breaker that protects only the KPA3 100 watt amplifier module. The >>> first thing I'd do is check the current drain from your power supply on the >>> band where you experienced the problem. First set the power to 10 watts so >>> the KPA3 is bypassed and note the total current drain key down. Now crank up >>> the power and see if the part used by the KPA3 is pushing 20A. For example, >>> if your total current at 10 W was 3A, does the total at 100 watts approach >>> 23A? IF so, the breaker was simply doing its job. Note that circuit breakers >>> are not precision devices so it may trip a couple of amperes one way or the >>> other from 20A. >>> >>> A primary reason for excessive KPA3 current is a high SWR on your antenna >>> system. The higher the SWR, the less efficient the KPA3 becomes and the more >>> current it has to draw to produce the power. >>> >>> A defective breaker can also start tripping at lower currents. >>> >>> 73, Ron AC7AC >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of todd >>> ruby >>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 9:08 AM >>> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector >>> Subject: [Elecraft] circuit breaker >>> >>> Would anyone venture to guess what would cause the circuit breaker to trip >>> on a K3? Mine did all of a sudden yesterday. Fortunately, my friend >>> suggested the reset and voila, I am back on the air. But if there is an >>> underlying cause, I think it would be wise to be aware of it so as to >>> preclude this episode from repeating. Any thoughts are welcome. >>> >>> 73 >>> >>> todd >>> >>> WB2ZAB >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net/ >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to ac5p at sbcglobal.net >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to wa6nhc at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rpfjeld at outlook.com From k9ma at sdellington.us Mon May 16 23:21:00 2016 From: k9ma at sdellington.us (Scott Ellington) Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 22:21:00 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] circuit breaker In-Reply-To: References: <001501d1af98$4d6f13b0$e84d3b10$@biz> <791692478.3705685.1463426307278.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <001701d1afa9$580a9f40$081fddc0$@biz> <7E18E261-91BE-4674-B7DF-2D8458BEFD2D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <796d4a9f-89ea-ac06-aa2e-ff7b4eb5a54e@sdellington.us> Todd, Was the K3 in receive or transmit mode when it went dead? 73, Scott K9MA On 5/16/2016 20:58, Richard Fjeld wrote: > I have seen breakers let go for no apparent reason. It seemed like it > was a mechanical failure in the breaker. > > Dick, n0ce > > > On 5/16/2016 5:27 PM, Rick Bates (WA6NHC) wrote: >> Is it possible that it 'belched' and the power reset is what really >> fixed it? >> >> 73, >> Rick WA6NHC >> >> Tiny iPhone keypad, spell check happens >> >>> On May 16, 2016, at 1:40 PM, Todd Ruby wrote: >>> >>> Well Ron, I guess there's a first time for everything. Although the >>> radio was deaf and dumb, I had display function and it looked as it >>> normally does after turning on the power. There was just no receive >>> nor output power. >>> >>> I turned it off, pressed the 20 amp circuit breaker on the rear >>> panel and sigs were coming through the headphones and I had full power. >>> >>> Today it's also operating perfectly. >>> >>> 73 >>> >>> Todd >>> >>>> On May 16, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: >>>> >>>> Todd responded to me off the reflector that he lost all power to >>>> the K3 so it wasn?t the 20A breaker. That only controls power to >>>> the KPA3. The front panel is still powered and the receiver >>>> continues to work. >>>> >>>> I suggested it might be the self-resetting breaker inside the K3. >>>> That will turn it off completely. Actually power will still be on >>>> the KPA3 module and anything plugged into the 12V external power >>>> connector on the K3 rear panel, but the K3 itself will look dead >>>> with no front panel lights, receive or other functions until it >>>> cools and resets itself. >>>> >>>> I?ve never had an issue with either breaker opening unexpectedly. >>>> >>>> 73, Ron AC7AC >>>> >>>> From: ac5p at sbcglobal.net [mailto:ac5p at sbcglobal.net] >>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 12:18 PM >>>> To: Ron D'Eau Claire; 'todd ruby'; 'Elecraft Reflector Reflector' >>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] circuit breaker >>>> >>>> I believe Todd is referring to the breaker on the K3, not his house >>>> panel circuit? >>>> Ron has some good advice, but I wonder how common this circuit >>>> breaker operates? >>>> >>>> I looked thru my manual for more info on it. The block diagram >>>> shows it as a 25A fuse, >>>> text and device indicate 20A circuit breaker, but NO info on the >>>> type operating curve, or current vs. time for minimum trip? >>>> >>>> I have a 10A circuit breaker on my 40Ahr battery supply and it has >>>> never tripped. It is a thermal time delay like most house breakers. >>>> >>>> Anyone out there have any clue? Wayne? >>>> >>>> Mike AC5P >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, May 16, 2016 12:28 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> The normal underlying cause for the breaker to open is >>>> over-current. That's >>>> a 20A breaker that protects only the KPA3 100 watt amplifier >>>> module. The >>>> first thing I'd do is check the current drain from your power >>>> supply on the >>>> band where you experienced the problem. First set the power to 10 >>>> watts so >>>> the KPA3 is bypassed and note the total current drain key down. Now >>>> crank up >>>> the power and see if the part used by the KPA3 is pushing 20A. For >>>> example, >>>> if your total current at 10 W was 3A, does the total at 100 watts >>>> approach >>>> 23A? IF so, the breaker was simply doing its job. Note that circuit >>>> breakers >>>> are not precision devices so it may trip a couple of amperes one >>>> way or the >>>> other from 20A. >>>> >>>> A primary reason for excessive KPA3 current is a high SWR on your >>>> antenna >>>> system. The higher the SWR, the less efficient the KPA3 becomes and >>>> the more >>>> current it has to draw to produce the power. >>>> >>>> A defective breaker can also start tripping at lower currents. >>>> >>>> 73, Ron AC7AC >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf >>>> Of todd >>>> ruby >>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 9:08 AM >>>> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector >>>> Subject: [Elecraft] circuit breaker >>>> >>>> Would anyone venture to guess what would cause the circuit breaker >>>> to trip >>>> on a K3? Mine did all of a sudden yesterday. Fortunately, my friend >>>> suggested the reset and voila, I am back on the air. But if there >>>> is an >>>> underlying cause, I think it would be wise to be aware of it so as to >>>> preclude this episode from repeating. Any thoughts are welcome. >>>> >>>> 73 >>>> >>>> todd >>>> >>>> WB2ZAB >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net/ >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to ac5p at sbcglobal.net >>>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to wa6nhc at gmail.com >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to rpfjeld at outlook.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k9ma at sdellington.us -- Scott Ellington K9MA Madison, Wisconsin, USA k9ma at sdellington.us From g3tct at g3tct.co.uk Tue May 17 10:25:08 2016 From: g3tct at g3tct.co.uk (Graham Kimbell) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 15:25:08 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 NB In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <573B29C4.6040304@g3tct.co.uk> I'm really surprised by all these negative comments about K3 NB. Mine has been very effective on electric fences (I have one!) and power line noise. Try this from 5 years ago:- http://www.g3tct.co.uk/GB3ANG_processing.mp3 [you'll hear first the GB3ANG beacon on 70MHz (tropo, 607km) in ssb bandwidth (2.3kHz) with no noise blanking. There's bad power line noise. At 6.7seconds in, the noise blanker is switched on (set at dsp t2-6, IF narrow 3). At 21.4secs in, the mode is switched to cw - the audio tone remains the same, and the bandwidth changes to 900Hz. At 30.5secs in, the APF is switched on until 56.4secs. At 61.5secs we revert to usb mode and at 68.3secs, the noise blanker is turned off.] 73 Graham On 19:59, riese-k3djc at juno.com wrote: > ... > the NB on the K3 doesnt work well on power line noise,,, this is my > experience as well > > From r.tristani at gmail.com Tue May 17 10:45:36 2016 From: r.tristani at gmail.com (Ramon Tristani) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 10:45:36 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 NB In-Reply-To: <573B29C4.6040304@g3tct.co.uk> References: <573B29C4.6040304@g3tct.co.uk> Message-ID: <5D5F65C9-2BEC-46CC-B55E-0E897AAFD73F@gmail.com> Great recording. Just had to follow your email and listen to the sound at the same time. I have had my K3 for over five years now (Serial No. 4416), a kit that I put together myself, without ever having any problems whatsoever. For questions, a simple call to Elecraft Customer Support has sufficed, a reply with instructions and solutions, if any, have arrived within minutes. I have had Kenwoods, Icoms, Yaesus, Galaxy, Collins, you name it, and never ever have I dealt with such a dedicated company whose products are worth every penny I have paid for. They have to be commended for the high standards of quality and outstanding customer support. I have been a ham since the early sixties. My comment is based on my own experience. In all those years I have never dealt with a company and products that even compare to Elecraft. I only hope they are here to stay. 73, Ram?n E. Tristani Sr. NQ9V (ex-KP4GE) > On May 17, 2016, at 10:25 AM, Graham Kimbell wrote: > > I'm really surprised by all these negative comments about K3 NB. Mine has been very effective on electric fences (I have one!) and power line noise. > > Try this from 5 years ago:- > http://www.g3tct.co.uk/GB3ANG_processing.mp3 > > [you'll hear first the GB3ANG beacon on 70MHz (tropo, 607km) in ssb bandwidth (2.3kHz) with no noise blanking. There's bad power line noise. At 6.7seconds in, the noise blanker is switched on (set at dsp t2-6, IF narrow 3). At 21.4secs in, the mode is switched to cw - the audio tone remains the same, and the bandwidth changes to 900Hz. At 30.5secs in, the APF is switched on until 56.4secs. At 61.5secs we revert to usb mode and at 68.3secs, the noise blanker is turned off.] > > 73 > Graham > > On 19:59, riese-k3djc at juno.com wrote: >> ... >> the NB on the K3 doesnt work well on power line noise,,, this is my >> experience as well >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to r.tristani at gmail.com From donwilh at embarqmail.com Tue May 17 10:54:17 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 10:54:17 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 NB In-Reply-To: <573B29C4.6040304@g3tct.co.uk> References: <573B29C4.6040304@g3tct.co.uk> Message-ID: <7f6169b6-80f5-9328-a576-fb8b0eea8681@embarqmail.com> The gentleman who was having problems has found the cause. He swapped the KNB3 from the sub to the mainRX. In other words, the KNB3 in his mainRX was not functioning properly. Yes, the NB does not do too much for power line noise - it works well on impulse type noise like automobile ignition noise and most types of electric fence noise. In other words, use NR for more constant type noises like powerline buzz. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/17/2016 10:25 AM, Graham Kimbell wrote: > I'm really surprised by all these negative comments about K3 NB. Mine > has been very effective on electric fences (I have one!) and power > line noise. > From alsopb at comcast.net Tue May 17 11:24:27 2016 From: alsopb at comcast.net (brian) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 15:24:27 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] OT- Interesting Analog Devices Evaluation Board Message-ID: <573B37AB.4000906@comcast.net> AD is charging $10 (+ shipping) for an evaluation board containing the following. Looks like something that will be interesting to play with. The Eval Board kit contains three detectors mounted on an evaluation board, with one test signal input and three outputs to compare the performance of the three detectors simultaneously: ADL5511: DC to 6 GHz, 47 dB Envelope and TruPwr? RMS Detector ADL5513: 1 MHz to 4 GHz, 80 dB Logarithmic Detector/Controller ADL5902: 50 MHz to 9 GHz, 65 dB TruPwr RMS Detector It can be ordered: http://www.richardsonrfpd.com/Pages/Product-Details.aspx?productId=1090721&ADICID=1602_WW_EN_RFMG_RFM_MULT_ADR-DET_PG_RF-DETECTORS_EMAL_GMDB_EVAL-BOARD-OFFER_AL_MQL&ECID=827f2e7e-a211-e611-80dd-c4346bdc3221&4831 I have no business relationship to AD. 73 DE Brian/K3KO From wa8jxm at gmail.com Tue May 17 13:09:25 2016 From: wa8jxm at gmail.com (Ken) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 13:09:25 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] P3: "Error initializing device" on external SVGA Message-ID: <573B5045.9080006@gmail.com> Any suggestions on how to fix this error? It shows on the SVGA. I have used this monitor before. tnx, Ken WA8JXM From w6sfm at w6sfm.com Tue May 17 14:21:51 2016 From: w6sfm at w6sfm.com (W6SFM) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 11:21:51 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] W6SFM Bug Roundup Event THIS WEEKEND! Message-ID: It's that time of year again, CW Operators from all around the globe will come together this weekend on-air to participate in the Semi Annual W6SFM CW Bug Roundup Event. Samuel F. Morse Amateur Radio Club, a Sacramento, California based CW enthusiast club wanted a special time to bring bug operators together on the air. In the same spirit as ARRL's Straight Key Night, participants are encouraged to make simple, conversational, ?chewing-the-fat? QSOs using their bug type keys. This is an opportunity to exercise, share and exhibit your personalized fist. This is NOT a contest. Call "CQ BR" so folks know you are a Bug Roundup Participant. For more information on this event and how to participate please visit the SFM ARC Bug Roundup Event web page at http://w6sfm.com/Bug_Roundup.html We hope to hear you all on the air this weekend! 73, Michael N6MQL -- From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Tue May 17 14:35:00 2016 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 21:35:00 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] P3: "Error initializing device" on external SVGA In-Reply-To: <573B5045.9080006@gmail.com> References: <573B5045.9080006@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7BDA2454-1BFB-47DD-8160-B6098601A697@gmail.com> I believe it is referring to the device plugged into the USB port on the P3's SVGA card. Vic 4X6GP > On 17 May 2016, at 8:09 PM, Ken wrote: > > Any suggestions on how to fix this error? It shows on the SVGA. I have used this monitor before. > > tnx, > Ken WA8JXM > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2vco.vic at gmail.com From ab2tc at arrl.net Tue May 17 14:36:16 2016 From: ab2tc at arrl.net (ab2tc) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 11:36:16 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K3 NB In-Reply-To: <7f6169b6-80f5-9328-a576-fb8b0eea8681@embarqmail.com> References: <00d601d1aef7$4485ce70$cd916b50$@nbnet.nb.ca> <5BE03DAF-0303-401A-80B2-81928B6E2A74@yahoo.co.uk> <390CB844-5B25-4301-B403-FB9EE425198F@widomaker.com> <00e201d1aefe$7738ea80$65aabf80$@nbnet.nb.ca> <4812A62B-3309-4AA0-A481-AE4C2941ACFE@yahoo.co.uk> <38e60217-9ab8-c962-f207-c96722ab17b8@necg.de> <7cc6a772-48d5-eacb-e502-1bde4ba57001@sdellington.us> <573B29C4.6040304@g3tct.co.uk> <7f6169b6-80f5-9328-a576-fb8b0eea8681@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <1463510176197-7617525.post@n2.nabble.com> Don Wilhelm wrote > The gentleman who was having problems has found the cause. He swapped > the KNB3 from the sub to the mainRX. In other words, the KNB3 in his > mainRX was not functioning properly. > > Yes, the NB does not do too much for power line noise > Hi Don, That is not my experience at all. I sometimes have moderate power line noise and I find the DSP blanker, not IF, rather effective. I use settings between T2-5 to T2-7. The higher setting gives better suppression but distorts audio for moderately strong signals (S7). For a while I was using some additional IF blanking but soon decided it had virtually no additional benefits. This is on SSB with 300-2700Hz passband. AB2TC - Knut -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/NB-issue-tp7617459p7617525.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ab2tc at arrl.net Tue May 17 15:13:59 2016 From: ab2tc at arrl.net (ab2tc) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 12:13:59 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K3 NB In-Reply-To: <1463510176197-7617525.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <5BE03DAF-0303-401A-80B2-81928B6E2A74@yahoo.co.uk> <390CB844-5B25-4301-B403-FB9EE425198F@widomaker.com> <00e201d1aefe$7738ea80$65aabf80$@nbnet.nb.ca> <4812A62B-3309-4AA0-A481-AE4C2941ACFE@yahoo.co.uk> <38e60217-9ab8-c962-f207-c96722ab17b8@necg.de> <7cc6a772-48d5-eacb-e502-1bde4ba57001@sdellington.us> <573B29C4.6040304@g3tct.co.uk> <7f6169b6-80f5-9328-a576-fb8b0eea8681@embarqmail.com> <1463510176197-7617525.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1463512439928-7617526.post@n2.nabble.com> ab2tc wrote > > Don Wilhelm wrote >> The gentleman who was having problems has found the cause. He swapped >> the KNB3 from the sub to the mainRX. In other words, the KNB3 in his >> mainRX was not functioning properly. >> >> Yes, the NB does not do too much for power line noise >> > > Hi Don, > > That is not my experience at all. I sometimes have moderate power line > noise and I find the DSP blanker, not IF, rather effective. I use settings > between T2-5 to T2-7. The higher setting gives better suppression but > distorts audio for moderately strong signals (S7). For a while I was using > some additional IF blanking but soon decided it had virtually no > additional benefits. This is on SSB with 300-2700Hz passband. > > AB2TC - Knut Hi again, I have reread this entire thread and I think I start to see what's going on. The KX3 only has a DSP noise blanker to my knowledge and some people who have both KX3 and K3 say the KX3 's NB is much better then the K3's for power line noise. I am guessing their K3 is set up for IF blanker only or with very little DSP assist. On the K3 the DSP NB works very well and I see the gentleman in the UK with the very convincing audio recording is using a little IF blanker assist. That audio recording is very much in agreement with what I am hearing when my power line noise is bad (usually on hot, humid summer days). AB2TC - Knut -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/NB-issue-tp7617459p7617526.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From k6dgw at foothill.net Tue May 17 15:47:12 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 12:47:12 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - plus symbol lower right corner of display Message-ID: Can someone remind me what the + in the lower right corner means? Been poking through the manual, but ran out of time. Working with a remote station, and found it in a strange configuration. Got everything fixed except for that + thanks in advance, 73, Fred K6DGW Sparks NV Washoe County DM09dn From valvetbone at gmail.com Tue May 17 15:59:26 2016 From: valvetbone at gmail.com (Art Hejduk) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 15:59:26 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - plus symbol lower right corner of display In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Fred, According to the owner's manual, "+ icon on in SSB modes indicates ESSB". 73, Art WB8ENE On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > Can someone remind me what the + in the lower right corner means? Been > poking through the manual, but ran out of time. > > Working with a remote station, and found it in a strange configuration. > Got everything fixed except for that + > > thanks in advance, > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > Sparks NV > Washoe County DM09dn > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to valvetbone at gmail.com > From fcady at montana.edu Tue May 17 16:01:01 2016 From: fcady at montana.edu (Cady, Fred) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 20:01:01 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - plus symbol lower right corner of display In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: QRQ or ESSB are on. Cheers, Fred KE7X ________________________________________ From: Elecraft on behalf of Fred Jensen Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 1:47 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - plus symbol lower right corner of display Can someone remind me what the + in the lower right corner means? Been poking through the manual, but ran out of time. Working with a remote station, and found it in a strange configuration. Got everything fixed except for that + thanks in advance, 73, Fred K6DGW Sparks NV Washoe County DM09dn ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to fcady at montana.edu From w9hak at twc.com Tue May 17 16:15:08 2016 From: w9hak at twc.com (w9hak) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 15:15:08 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network Message-ID: <18e6b4f5-2ead-4174-6a6b-5d075131e266@twc.com> I am contemplating dropping TWC and going to a satellite system. Any advise on rfi would be appreciated. Smith Bradford W9HAK From w2blc at nycap.rr.com Tue May 17 16:18:29 2016 From: w2blc at nycap.rr.com (Bill) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 16:18:29 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and the Genovation keypad Message-ID: What a hoot - I can control nearly everything from my 48 key keypad by assigning macros to work from each key. Even have a few favorite frequencies setup. I have control over what buttons do what - in other words, the layout is what suits me. I think this will be fantastic working together with the K-pod. I haven't turned HRD on since I started using the keypad. I have no rotor to control, don't use the K3 on digital, and log by pencil. The only job HRD had was to control the rig - limited as that was. That was the object of the keypad - to replace HRD for rig control. Bunch of info on this project can be found at: http://nk7z.net/adding-an-external-keypad-to-the-k3/ Bill W2BLC K-Line From davidahrendts at me.com Tue May 17 16:24:43 2016 From: davidahrendts at me.com (David Ahrendts) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 13:24:43 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network In-Reply-To: <18e6b4f5-2ead-4174-6a6b-5d075131e266@twc.com> References: <18e6b4f5-2ead-4174-6a6b-5d075131e266@twc.com> Message-ID: <78103BB6-7664-4B84-8152-D1E027DAA1C9@me.com> Smith, I have DISH and the roof sat receiver sits literally 15-feet from the SteppIR DB-11. No evidence of RFI in sat reception. Even I was amazed. Doesn?t solve DSS/cable bundling, but that?s another discussion with my OTT hat on. Apple TV streaming with TWC as ISP, no RFI. But with the TWC cable modem into gigabit router I must take great care to use ample ferrites and even shielded CAT 6 cable. But I digress. David A., KK6DA, Los Angeles > On May 17, 2016, at 1:15 PM, w9hak wrote: > > I am contemplating dropping TWC and going to a satellite system. Any advise on rfi would be appreciated. > > Smith Bradford > W9HAK > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to davidahrendts at me.com David Ahrendts davidahrendts at me.com From dpbunte at gmail.com Tue May 17 16:26:09 2016 From: dpbunte at gmail.com (David Bunte) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 16:26:09 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network In-Reply-To: References: <18e6b4f5-2ead-4174-6a6b-5d075131e266@twc.com> Message-ID: Smith - I switched from Comcast to Direct TV last November. I noticed NO RFI from the system, and NO interference to the TV reception. I was on at all hours, running 500 watts to a vertical. Dave - K9FN On May 17, 2016 4:16 PM, "w9hak" wrote: I am contemplating dropping TWC and going to a satellite system. Any advise on rfi would be appreciated. Smith Bradford W9HAK ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to dpbunte at gmail.com From Hamshack at N4ST.com Tue May 17 16:38:03 2016 From: Hamshack at N4ST.com (Jim - N4ST) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 16:38:03 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network In-Reply-To: <18e6b4f5-2ead-4174-6a6b-5d075131e266@twc.com> References: <18e6b4f5-2ead-4174-6a6b-5d075131e266@twc.com> Message-ID: <000001d1b07c$0834db10$189e9130$@N4ST.com> Never had a problem with HF or 6M ops interfering with DirecTV. Can't say I have noticed the DirecTV interfering with ham ops. When I first got DirecTV we had a problem when doing Pay Per View movies. We often lost the first few minutes of the movie. Finally figured out that when the kids would do popcorn in the microwave it caused the DirecTV to drop signal. Also noticed that we would lose WiFi connections when the microwave was operational. We got rid of that microwave. _________ 73, Jim - N4ST -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of w9hak Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 16:15 To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network I am contemplating dropping TWC and going to a satellite system. Any advise on rfi would be appreciated. Smith Bradford W9HAK From doug at ellmore.net Tue May 17 16:46:50 2016 From: doug at ellmore.net (Doug Ellmore) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 16:46:50 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Travel Case for K3/s KX3 Message-ID: Check out travel cases at: http://www.mcmelectronics.com/content/en-US/landing_pages/weatherproof-cases I've been using them with my KX3 and K3 and other gear. Doug NA1DX From biggsbigbear at gmail.com Tue May 17 16:49:41 2016 From: biggsbigbear at gmail.com (Tony Rowland) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 13:49:41 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Buy kits Message-ID: <3C9373B4-FD4C-4FD0-A7EB-81E63AF13DC0@gmail.com> Ok ok dayton. Was on the phone trying to line up tics for DAYTONA 500 2017. Sent from my iPad From k2av.guy at gmail.com Tue May 17 17:03:38 2016 From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 17:03:38 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 NB In-Reply-To: <1463510176197-7617525.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <00d601d1aef7$4485ce70$cd916b50$@nbnet.nb.ca> <5BE03DAF-0303-401A-80B2-81928B6E2A74@yahoo.co.uk> <390CB844-5B25-4301-B403-FB9EE425198F@widomaker.com> <00e201d1aefe$7738ea80$65aabf80$@nbnet.nb.ca> <4812A62B-3309-4AA0-A481-AE4C2941ACFE@yahoo.co.uk> <38e60217-9ab8-c962-f207-c96722ab17b8@necg.de> <7cc6a772-48d5-eacb-e502-1bde4ba57001@sdellington.us> <573B29C4.6040304@g3tct.co.uk> <7f6169b6-80f5-9328-a576-fb8b0eea8681@embarqmail.com> <1463510176197-7617525.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: A lot of NB success on power line noise has to do with what state the noise is in when it gets to you. If the source is near, and the waveform is not smeared, the K3 NB does very well. The problem comes when a source is rather distant, and is getting to you conducted over something like a mile of primary transmission line. Then the waveform can be smeared and lacks the crisp sharp peak that the circuitry and algorithms love and suppress so neatly. This also accounts for a lot of variation in reporting. A smeared noise waveform is very much harder to block out. Sometimes NR will do that better, but this is very much an individual situation variance. In my case there is sometime an arc at a pole about 3/4 miles from here that belongs to the City of Apex power distribution. I don't hear it directly from there. I hear it from lines close to me up and down 64, which smears it. I also hear it from a line that runs beside Toll 540 at right angles to me and from the other direction. More smearing. I did find that with a certain combination of digital and IF NB, and sweeping the band, that there were a couple 3-4 kHz wide spots where the stuff nulled out pretty well. What was the difference? The change in frequency changed the wavelengths and unsmeared the result at those two spots enough that the NB could get it. So I worked a run frequency in the 160 contest in those two narrow ranges, where the NB actually had things down to the normal band noise level. So reports that don't mention anything about the nature of the noise and are at different locations can't be used to evaluate a noise blanker. Only a side by side comparison and knowing the nature of the noise. A "disadvantage" of sorts is the number of combinations possible on the K3. In a conversation with a complainant on the K3 NB, I asked if the full number of combinations had been tried. He said that was too many. He tried a few and gave up. When I pressed on that, he said that radios shouldn't have so many possibilities, that manufacturers should pick the right one and just have that come up when the NB is hit. When that Apex noise source started up before a contest, it took me a couple of hours fiddling before I realized that certain settings produced noise nulls in different places on the band. It took me a lot longer than that to figure out what was going on (the smearing or not). Without all the possible combinations, I would have either been lucky or not with what the radio gave me. And you can have a bad board. If that's it, your Elecraft service is top flight. Besides that your K3 NB can take out key clicks, and Elecraft is the only one I know of that can do that. 73, Guy K2AV On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:36 PM, ab2tc wrote: > Don Wilhelm wrote > > The gentleman who was having problems has found the cause. He swapped > > the KNB3 from the sub to the mainRX. In other words, the KNB3 in his > > mainRX was not functioning properly. > > > > Yes, the NB does not do too much for power line noise > > > > > > Hi Don, > > That is not my experience at all. I sometimes have moderate power line > noise > and I find the DSP blanker, not IF, rather effective. I use settings > between > T2-5 to T2-7. The higher setting gives better suppression but distorts > audio > for moderately strong signals (S7). For a while I was using some additional > IF blanking but soon decided it had virtually no additional benefits. This > is on SSB with 300-2700Hz passband. > > AB2TC - Knut > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/NB-issue-tp7617459p7617525.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2av.guy at gmail.com > From n0nb at n0nb.us Tue May 17 17:34:29 2016 From: n0nb at n0nb.us (Nate Bargmann) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 16:34:29 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network In-Reply-To: <18e6b4f5-2ead-4174-6a6b-5d075131e266@twc.com> References: <18e6b4f5-2ead-4174-6a6b-5d075131e266@twc.com> Message-ID: <20160517213429.GK7544@n0nb.us> I've had DirecTV in four different homes with two different receivers for almost 20 years and never a bit of RFI has affected the receivers. I have gotten into the stereo amplifier on occasion but that is another matter entirely. 73, Nate, N0NB -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us From rmcgaver at wi.rr.com Tue May 17 17:34:36 2016 From: rmcgaver at wi.rr.com (Rick McGaver) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 16:34:36 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network In-Reply-To: <000001d1b07c$0834db10$189e9130$@N4ST.com> References: <18e6b4f5-2ead-4174-6a6b-5d075131e266@twc.com> <000001d1b07c$0834db10$189e9130$@N4ST.com> Message-ID: I have DISH, it sucks but never a problem with RFI. I run QRO Power, a couple of my friends have DISH and Direct with Zero RFI issues. NK 9G Sent from my iPad > On May 17, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Jim - N4ST wrote: > > Never had a problem with HF or 6M ops interfering with DirecTV. > Can't say I have noticed the DirecTV interfering with ham ops. > > When I first got DirecTV we had a problem when doing Pay Per View movies. > We often lost the first few minutes of the movie. > Finally figured out that when the kids would do popcorn in the microwave it > caused the DirecTV to drop signal. > Also noticed that we would lose WiFi connections when the microwave was > operational. > We got rid of that microwave. > _________ > 73, > Jim - N4ST > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of w9hak > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 16:15 > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network > > I am contemplating dropping TWC and going to a satellite system. Any advise > on rfi would be appreciated. > > Smith Bradford > W9HAK > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rmcgaver at wi.rr.com From pfizenmayer at q.com Tue May 17 17:49:46 2016 From: pfizenmayer at q.com (HankP) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 17:49:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Elecraft] K3 NB In-Reply-To: <1463512439928-7617526.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <492371640.2479541.1463521786867.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Another approach -like K2AV. I suspect the reason there are so many differing opinions on the effectiveness for the K3NB is that the noise pulses from an arcing piece of powerline hardware can be so different . In fact the better powerline RFI folks now use a receiver that takes a picture of the waveform of the interference you are hearing and they go in search of where that particular waveform is being generated .The local APS guys ask if they can just connect to your antenna and record exactly what you are hearing . If you have an oscilloscope - I suggest you hang one across your speaker or headphone outputs put the K3 on AM and widest filter , use the line sync and set to 10 msec/div . Its interesting to watch the spikes versus what you are hearing . Obviously the K3 NB setting will be different for different kinds of spiking . I have seen cases where there will be 3 and 4 spikes spaced about a half to maybe a msec apart repeating every 16.6 msec .And this can and usually is be imtermittent The blanker window can obviously be different than for a single pulse evey 16.6 msec. And the wider the blanking - the more of the desired signal gets chopped. The problem with NB in any receiver I have ever had is that a very effective blanker will be terrible in the presence of strong nearby signals . I had a couple Orions and the NB in those where as good as I ever had - BUT any stong sigs within 35-50 khz would pump the blanker . It was great when everybody thought the band was dead and I had it to myself for awhile. Otherwise it was useless. The ability to use NB after the IF roofing is interesting with respect to strong adjacent sigs BUT apparently the pulses get stretched enough that I have never seen DSP NB do much good on my noise. I have wondered about having an option in the K3 to use the sub receiver just as a noise receiver at someplace out of band where there are no strong signals (ala one of the old Collins receivers which used about 40 mhz noise receiver to drive the NB circuitry) 73 Hank K7HP From john at johnjeanantiqueradio.com Tue May 17 18:03:27 2016 From: john at johnjeanantiqueradio.com (John K9UWA) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 18:03:27 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network In-Reply-To: References: <18e6b4f5-2ead-4174-6a6b-5d075131e266@twc.com>, <000001d1b07c$0834db10$189e9130$@N4ST.com>, Message-ID: <573B952F.10803.1CD9C49D@john.johnjeanantiqueradio.com> From edauer at law.du.edu Tue May 17 18:18:33 2016 From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 22:18:33 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] How to Order Elecraft Parts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Is there a way to determine the prices of parts available from Elecraft and then to order them? I am aware of the ?Parts and Mod Kits? page, but that doesn?t begin to list everything. For example - and there are many other examples - I need to buy a couple of DB9 backshells. Simple, yes? To my dismay, the Radio Shack stores across the 100 mile stretch between my city home and my operating QTH don?t carry them any more. I can find them at other sellers online but the handling and delivery charges for quantities under 1,000 are severe. Ham Radio Outlet doesn?t carry much by way of DIY parts either. In this case I just ordered them from Elecraft as an add-on to a kit order, without knowing the cost. Maybe Elecraft doesn?t want to be in the small parts business, and that would be a sensible business judgment. But there are lots of parts used in their kits for which some klutz who stepped on one would like to buy a replacement. So, is there a way to access a parts price list without bothering Richard every time . . . ? Ted, KN1CBR From ron at cobi.biz Tue May 17 18:33:54 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 15:33:54 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] How to Order Elecraft Parts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000e01d1b08c$31ce51d0$956af570$@biz> IMX, Elecraft avoids selling individual parts except for the rare cases they are needed for an upgrade or mod. I'm told that by the time they add handling charges the cost becomes very high and fulfilling those needs causes inventory problems for them when stocks are held according to the anticipated product needs. Contact Digi-Key (www.digikey.com). They handle small orders without excessive charges. Now that Radio Shack is closed down here too, I get everything from them, usually within a couple of days clear across the country for nominal postal charges. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dauer, Edward Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 3:19 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] How to Order Elecraft Parts Is there a way to determine the prices of parts available from Elecraft and then to order them? I am aware of the ?Parts and Mod Kits? page, but that doesn?t begin to list everything. For example - and there are many other examples - I need to buy a couple of DB9 backshells. Simple, yes? To my dismay, the Radio Shack stores across the 100 mile stretch between my city home and my operating QTH don?t carry them any more. I can find them at other sellers online but the handling and delivery charges for quantities under 1,000 are severe. Ham Radio Outlet doesn?t carry much by way of DIY parts either. In this case I just ordered them from Elecraft as an add-on to a kit order, without knowing the cost. Maybe Elecraft doesn?t want to be in the small parts business, and that would be a sensible business judgment. But there are lots of parts used in their kits for which some klutz who stepped on one would like to buy a replacement. So, is there a way to access a parts price list without bothering Richard every time . . . ? Ted, KN1CBR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From k6dgw at foothill.net Tue May 17 18:34:04 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 15:34:04 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - + sign Message-ID: Thanks all, I got rid of it. Remote is a new thing, especially with multiple users, you never know what you're going to see when you connect. :-) 73, Fred K6DGW Sparks NV Washoe County DM09dn From edauer at law.du.edu Tue May 17 18:40:21 2016 From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 22:40:21 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] How to Order Elecraft Parts In-Reply-To: <000e01d1b08c$31ce51d0$956af570$@biz> Message-ID: Thanks, Ron. As I noted in my first post, that sounds like a wise business judgment on Elecraft?s part. I am just addicted to the good service they provide in every other respect. Ted, KN1CBR On 5/17/16, 4:33 PM, "Ron D'Eau Claire" wrote: >IMX, Elecraft avoids selling individual parts except for the rare cases >they >are needed for an upgrade or mod. I'm told that by the time they add >handling charges the cost becomes very high and fulfilling those needs >causes inventory problems for them when stocks are held according to the >anticipated product needs. > >Contact Digi-Key (www.digikey.com). They handle small orders without >excessive charges. Now that Radio Shack is closed down here too, I get >everything from them, usually within a couple of days clear across the >country for nominal postal charges. > >73, Ron AC7AC > >-----Original Message----- >From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of >Dauer, >Edward >Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 3:19 PM >To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >Subject: [Elecraft] How to Order Elecraft Parts > >Is there a way to determine the prices of parts available from Elecraft >and >then to order them? I am aware of the ?Parts and Mod Kits? page, but that >doesn?t begin to list everything. For example - and there are many other >examples - I need to buy a couple of DB9 backshells. Simple, yes? >To my dismay, the Radio Shack stores across the 100 mile stretch between >my >city home and my operating QTH don?t carry them any more. I can find them >at other sellers online but the handling and delivery charges for >quantities >under 1,000 are severe. Ham Radio Outlet doesn?t carry much by way of DIY >parts either. In this case I just ordered them from Elecraft as an add-on >to a kit order, without knowing the cost. Maybe Elecraft doesn?t want to >be >in the small parts business, and that would be a sensible business >judgment. >But there are lots of parts used in their kits for which some klutz who >stepped on one would like to buy a replacement. So, is there a way to >access a parts price list without bothering Richard every time . . . ? > >Ted, KN1CBR > >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message >delivered to ron at elecraft.com > From jboehner01 at yahoo.com Tue May 17 18:48:53 2016 From: jboehner01 at yahoo.com (James F. Boehner MD) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 18:48:53 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] How to Order Elecraft Parts Message-ID: <012901d1b08e$49e034d0$dda09e70$@yahoo.com> Ted, This just pertains to your DB9 backshell situation-I ordered several of them off of amazon.com. It's sad we can't count on Radio Shack to have parts anymore. ?73 de JIM N2ZZ -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dauer, Edward Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 6:19 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] How to Order Elecraft Parts Is there a way to determine the prices of parts available from Elecraft and then to order them? I am aware of the ?Parts and Mod Kits? page, but that doesn?t begin to list everything. For example - and there are many other examples - I need to buy a couple of DB9 backshells. Simple, yes? To my dismay, the Radio Shack stores across the 100 mile stretch between my city home and my operating QTH don?t carry them any more. I can find them at other sellers online but the handling and delivery charges for quantities under 1,000 are severe. Ham Radio Outlet doesn?t carry much by way of DIY parts either. In this case I just ordered them from Elecraft as an add-on to a kit order, without knowing the cost. Maybe Elecraft doesn?t want to be in the small parts business, and that would be a sensible business judgment. But there are lots of parts used in their kits for which some klutz who stepped on one would like to buy a replacement. So, is there a way to access a parts price list without bothering Richard every time . . . ? Ted, KN1CBR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jboehner01 at yahoo.com From rwhitetexas at verizon.net Tue May 17 18:55:50 2016 From: rwhitetexas at verizon.net (W5RDW) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 15:55:50 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network In-Reply-To: <18e6b4f5-2ead-4174-6a6b-5d075131e266@twc.com> References: <18e6b4f5-2ead-4174-6a6b-5d075131e266@twc.com> Message-ID: <1463525750355-7617546.post@n2.nabble.com> In the '90s, had DirecTV for over 10 years with no RFI problems running full power. Changed over to Verizon Fios, etc. Now after 10 years of Verizon (now Frontier) and ever increasing monthly bills, getting ready to go back to DirecTV! ----- Roger W5RDW -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/RFI-and-Direct-tv-or-Dish-network-tp7617530p7617546.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From frantz at pwpconsult.com Tue May 17 19:25:25 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 16:25:25 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Travel Case for K3/s KX3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: As I promised, I would load the soft KX3 case from Rose into my soft-sided roller bag and fly it across the country an report what happened. What happened is the left lever on the KXPD3 iambic key was broken resulting in ERR KEY on the radio. Backing out the adjustment screw restored the key to operational status, but I still need to find time to install a replacement part. I did not have a problem when I packed the KX3, PX3, SignaLink etc. etc all into a Pelican case. Solutions: (1) Use a Pelican case, but it adds considerably to the weight. (2) Remove the key for transport. (The solution I'm using now.) (3) Some kind of hard cup to protect the key. (3D printing anyone?) 73 Bill AE6JV ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Since the IBM Selectric, keyboards have gotten 408-356-8506 | steadily worse. Now we have touchscreen keyboards. www.pwpconsult.com | Can we make something even worse? From w7ox at socal.rr.com Tue May 17 19:38:17 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 16:38:17 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Travel Case for K3/s KX3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <023729ab-6bf5-01b5-53d9-c8643c635b92@socal.rr.com> My KX3 travel case is a LowePro camera case I happened to have for a camera system I sold, the Nova 170 AW. My current camera system fits in my second Nova 170 AW :-) http://www.amazon.com/Lowepro-Nova-DSLR-Camera-Shoulder/dp/B0016J1EAY?ie=UTF8&keywords=lowepro%20nova%20170aw&qid=1463527880&ref_=sr_1_2&sr=8-2 The KX3 fits in vertically and perfectly. It also holds antenna, paddle, a small brick power supply, a 6 A-hr Li-ion battery I have etc. I've not tried to fit the PX3 in this case yet. Well padded, has a water-proof cover, etc. Fits like it was made for the KX3. 73, Phil W7OX On 5/17/16 4:25 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: > As I promised, I would load the soft KX3 case > from Rose into my soft-sided roller bag and fly > it across the country an report what happened. > > What happened is the left lever on the KXPD3 > iambic key was broken resulting in ERR KEY on > the radio. Backing out the adjustment screw > restored the key to operational status, but I > still need to find time to install a replacement > part. I did not have a problem when I packed the > KX3, PX3, SignaLink etc. etc all into a Pelican > case. > > Solutions: > > (1) Use a Pelican case, but it adds considerably > to the weight. > > (2) Remove the key for transport. (The solution > I'm using now.) > > (3) Some kind of hard cup to protect the key. > (3D printing anyone?) > > 73 Bill AE6JV From edauer at law.du.edu Tue May 17 19:38:56 2016 From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 23:38:56 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] How to Order Elecraft Parts In-Reply-To: <573BA8B1.9090504@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: [The following in reply to an off-line message from Don Wilhelm] Thanks, Don. Very helpful, as always. My e-mail was alive with suggestions today, giving me an education in modern online retailing. For example, on E-Bay there is now going on what looks like a competitive auction for 17 DB9 backshells in quantities of one each. The current bids are at $2.85. Eight of the original 25 have been sold, and there are a handful of potential buyers doing something called ?watching.? Indeed. Some people must have a lot of time on their hands. Or is competitive shopping a new sport? I don?t understand it; but then, my wife doesn?t understand radiosport contesting either. I?ll end my part in this thread now, with thanks to the many who replied off-line and on. Cheers, Ted, KN1CBR > From rickw8zt at gmail.com Tue May 17 19:50:18 2016 From: rickw8zt at gmail.com (Rick Robinson) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 19:50:18 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Travel Case for K3/s KX3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I second the MCM cases. And as a side note on MCM for rolling your own,they sell the soft pluck foam that I had been looking for years for. It is sized for their cases but they give you the deminsions which make it easy to get what you need. And it is very reasonably priced. On Tuesday, May 17, 2016, Doug Ellmore wrote: > Check out travel cases at: > > http://www.mcmelectronics.com/content/en-US/landing_pages/weatherproof-cases > > I've been using them with my KX3 and K3 and other gear. > > > Doug NA1DX > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rickw8zt at gmail.com > -- Rick, W8ZT Sent from Gmail Mobile From elecraftcovers at gmail.com Tue May 17 19:52:10 2016 From: elecraftcovers at gmail.com (Rose) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 17:52:10 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD3 broken Message-ID: Hi Bill! Do I understand correctly that you left the KXPD3 attached to your KX3 when it was inserted into the case? I'd say you are fortunate that there wasn't -more- damage to the paddle assembly. There is a pocket on the inside wall for safety stowing the paddle assembly. None of my KX3 cases are intended to carry the radio with the paddle in place. 73 Rose - N7HKW ElecraftCovers at gmail.com 406-560-3738 From goldtr8 at charter.net Tue May 17 20:02:43 2016 From: goldtr8 at charter.net (Goldtr8 (KD8NNU)) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 20:02:43 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network In-Reply-To: <573B952F.10803.1CD9C49D@john.johnjeanantiqueradio.com> References: <18e6b4f5-2ead-4174-6a6b-5d075131e266@twc.com>, <000001d1b07c$0834db10$189e9130$@N4ST.com>, <573B952F.10803.1CD9C49D@john.johnjeanantiqueradio.com> Message-ID: <874F8540FDD44EAA90DE00990EA829BF@donslaptopHP> I have Direct TV with no RF issues. ~73 Don KD8NNU 2014 3905CC Top Gun :-) -.- -.. ---.. -. -. ..- -----Original Message----- From: John K9UWA Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 6:03 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to goldtr8 at charter.net From mike at mdodd.com Tue May 17 20:23:14 2016 From: mike at mdodd.com (Mike Dodd) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 20:23:14 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network In-Reply-To: <18e6b4f5-2ead-4174-6a6b-5d075131e266@twc.com> References: <18e6b4f5-2ead-4174-6a6b-5d075131e266@twc.com> Message-ID: <573BB5F2.4000303@mdodd.com> On 5/17/2016 4:15 PM, w9hak wrote: > I am contemplating dropping TWC and going to a satellite system. Any > advice on rfi would be appreciated. We have DirecTV, and there is no interference from my K3s on 80-6M. Also, the DirecTV receiver does not interfere with ham band reception. -- 73, Mike N4CF Louisa County, VA USA Elecraft K3s/100 Carolina Windom up 45' http://n4cf.mdodd.com From dlrwild1 at verizon.net Tue May 17 20:40:50 2016 From: dlrwild1 at verizon.net (dlrwild1 at verizon.net) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 20:40:50 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: FOR SALE: K3/K3S VFOknobs by N8BX Message-ID: From: dlrwild1 at verizon.net Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:29 PM To: elecraft reflector Subject: FOR SALE: K3/K3S VFOknobs by N8BX FOR SALE: Brand new, sealed in the box, K3/K3S VFO A and VFO B knobs. Black powder coated with aluminum center insert. The larger VFO A has a finger dimple. These are made by N8BX. Gorgeous and very heavy. Contact Bob,K3SRO at dlrwild1 at verizon.net ASKING: $150 firm with USPS flat rate Priority Mail with insurance in CONUS. Payment via USPS postal money order. From wa8jxm at gmail.com Tue May 17 20:57:51 2016 From: wa8jxm at gmail.com (Ken) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 20:57:51 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] P3: "Error initializing device" on external SVGA In-Reply-To: <7BDA2454-1BFB-47DD-8160-B6098601A697@gmail.com> References: <573B5045.9080006@gmail.com> <7BDA2454-1BFB-47DD-8160-B6098601A697@gmail.com> Message-ID: <573BBE0F.2040004@gmail.com> Oh gosh, you are correct, Vic. Thank you. I didn't even realize I had anything plugged in there! Problem solved. 73, Ken WA8JXM On 5/17/16 2:35 PM, Vic Rosenthal wrote: > I believe it is referring to the device plugged into the USB port on the P3's SVGA card. > > Vic 4X6GP From raysills3 at verizon.net Tue May 17 21:28:40 2016 From: raysills3 at verizon.net (Ray Sills) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 21:28:40 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Travel Case for K3/s KX3 In-Reply-To: <023729ab-6bf5-01b5-53d9-c8643c635b92@socal.rr.com> References: <023729ab-6bf5-01b5-53d9-c8643c635b92@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <6EF42C01-3E95-41DC-BED5-783F8C5D5C4E@verizon.net> > On May 17, 2016, at 7:38 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > > My KX3 travel case is a LowePro camera case I happened to have for a camera system I sold, the Nova 170 AW. My current camera system fits in my second Nova 170 AW :-) > Ditto here? I?m using the LowePro Edit 140 bag, and it hold my KX3 (which has the SideKX side panels and Lexan cover), an outboard 12 Lithium battery, my MH3 mic, Elecraft paddles, an AC power supply, earbuds, wire for antenna and counterpoise, and a Pamona BNC adapter. In short, it?s a shack in a bag? a go bag, with everything needed to get on the air. The case is nicely padded, and has nice pockets to hold the smaller items. And there?s a nice padded divider, which I use to house the paddle. 73 de Ray K2ULR KX3 #211 From pubx1 at af2z.net Tue May 17 22:08:40 2016 From: pubx1 at af2z.net (Drew AF2Z) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 22:08:40 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] How to Order Elecraft Parts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <573BCEA8.2000403@af2z.net> I sometimes buy single parts or small quantity on ebay. The price can be pretty good, delivery is quick and often without s/h charges. However, it is a slight gamble. For example, a few PL-259's i recently bought: the shell on one would not thread correctly. They looked like genuine Amphenol as far as I could tell. (I know Amphenol is made in China nowadays so maybe the QC is not what it used to be. Or else the factory "seconds" are making it to market via back channel merchandising...) 73, Drew AF2Z On 05/17/16 19:38, Dauer, Edward wrote: > [The following in reply to an off-line message from Don Wilhelm] > > Thanks, Don. Very helpful, as always. > > My e-mail was alive with suggestions today, giving me an education in > modern online retailing. For example, on E-Bay there is now going on what > looks like a competitive auction for 17 DB9 backshells in quantities of > one each. The current bids are at $2.85. Eight of the original 25 have > been sold, and there are a handful of potential buyers doing something > called ?watching.? Indeed. Some people must have a lot of time on their > hands. Or is competitive shopping a new sport? I don?t understand it; > but then, my wife doesn?t understand radiosport contesting either. > > I?ll end my part in this thread now, with thanks to the many who replied > off-line and on. > > > Cheers, > > > Ted, KN1CBR > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to pubx1 at af2z.net > From todd at ruby-wine.com Tue May 17 22:29:28 2016 From: todd at ruby-wine.com (Todd Ruby) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 22:29:28 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network Message-ID: <2EDA0321-1EE5-4DB8-AA6E-6763C150CCD5@ruby-wine.com> Not that I'm a fan of Verizon the company, I'm not, but FIOS will rid you of all RFI blues. My neighbors had Comcast and I would get the dreaded phone call time and again that I was messing up their TV. Thank goodness they are great people. Then they switched to FIOS and now I can contest to my heart's content running 1.5 kW with my 4 element SteppIR 100' above their TV room. No more RFI phone calls! 73 Todd WB2ZAB From john at kk9a.com Tue May 17 22:41:37 2016 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 22:41:37 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] How to Order Elecraft Parts Message-ID: <008401d1b0ae$cf6ed3c0$6e4c7b40$@com> Amphenol connectors will have the brand name and model number marked on them. All of my PL-259's are either Andrew Heliax connectors or they are Amphenol 83-1SP. I have been using 83-1SP's for decades, I did have one where the barrel threads were not cut properly and it did not screw together. Unfortunately I noticed this after soldering:( So getting a bad Amphenol connector is possible, but probably rare. John KK9A Drew AF2Z pubx1 at af2z.net Tue May 17 22:08:40 EDT 2016 I sometimes buy single parts or small quantity on ebay. The price can be pretty good, delivery is quick and often without s/h charges. However, it is a slight gamble. For example, a few PL-259's i recently bought: the shell on one would not thread correctly. They looked like genuine Amphenol as far as I could tell. (I know Amphenol is made in China nowadays so maybe the QC is not what it used to be. Or else the factory "seconds" are making it to market via back channel merchandising...) 73, Drew AF2Z From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Tue May 17 23:26:18 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 19:26:18 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network Message-ID: <201605180326.u4I3QIHX016414@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> Had Dish-NET for several years and switched to Direct-TV two years ago during a time there was contract dispute between Ch.13 (Anchorage) and Dish-NET that threatened that they would not carry the network programming. We are 65-90 miles from the TV stations which makes digital TV not watchable from off-air reception. No RFI either way from the mw satellite system but the new Direct-TV receiver switching PS gets into my 2m receiver. Fortunately, I am not using 2m when watching TV. We power-off the AC to the entertainment equipment when not using it (saves power consumption over time). I suppose some ferrites and shielding the separate switcher would solve this. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From hullspeed21 at gmail.com Wed May 18 08:23:30 2016 From: hullspeed21 at gmail.com (Warren Merkel) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 08:23:30 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7b78b623-d500-2a4e-de84-77f30cebff46@gmail.com> I have a DirecTV system and haven't had as good luck with RFI as the others here. My dish is about 40 feet directly below and near the end of an OCF 80m Windom. It worked out that was the only realistic position that afforded full Sat views through the trees. Usually nothing happens at 100w HF output, but when I run the power up to 500w (depending on band), two of my DVRs either "turn off" (standby really) or start randomly recording whatever channel is being tuned at the time. I've got the dish grounded and the RG6 feed is passed multiple passes through large #31 ferrites, with no overall improvement in RFI. I would recommend much more separation of antennas and feedline than I have, if possible. Warren, KD4Z On 5/17/2016 10:08 PM, w9hak wrote: I am contemplating dropping TWC and going to a satellite system. Any advise on rfi would be appreciated. Smith Bradford W9HAK From ae5x at juno.com Wed May 18 08:53:48 2016 From: ae5x at juno.com (ae5x at juno.com) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 12:53:48 GMT Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2? Message-ID: <20160518.075348.10332.0@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> So how do I order a KX2? http://www.southgatearc.org/news/2016/may/new_kx2_radio_to_be_announce_at_dayton_hamvention.htm#.VzxlDr6m2d4 John AE5X http://ae5x.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Nextiva vFAX Why Do You Still Have An Old Fax Machine? http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/573c65f32cb1465f20a11st03vuc From mike at mdodd.com Wed May 18 09:11:31 2016 From: mike at mdodd.com (Mike Dodd) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 09:11:31 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2? In-Reply-To: <20160518.075348.10332.0@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> References: <20160518.075348.10332.0@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <573C6A03.4090506@mdodd.com> On 5/18/2016 8:53 AM, ae5x at juno.com wrote: > So how do I order a KX2? I didn't know there IS a KX2. The KX1 is here: -- 73, Mike N4CF Louisa County, VA USA Elecraft K3s/100 Carolina Windom up 45' http://n4cf.mdodd.com From d.cutter at ntlworld.com Wed May 18 09:21:43 2016 From: d.cutter at ntlworld.com (David Cutter) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 14:21:43 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network In-Reply-To: <7b78b623-d500-2a4e-de84-77f30cebff46@gmail.com> References: <7b78b623-d500-2a4e-de84-77f30cebff46@gmail.com> Message-ID: Some OCF dipoles work very well when used with a 2-choke balun, see DJ0IP for suitable designs. Spiderbeam make proper 2-choke baluns for their OCF dipoles but I don't know of any others. It's all about suppressing those common mode currents on the outside of the coax. He and I have both measured common mode currents with different chokes; see his site for details. http://www.dj0ip.de/balun-stuff/ David G3UNA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Merkel" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network >I have a DirecTV system and haven't had as good luck with RFI as the > others here. My dish is about 40 feet directly below and near the end > of an OCF 80m Windom. It worked out that was the only realistic > position that afforded full Sat views through the trees. > > Usually nothing happens at 100w HF output, but when I run the power up > to 500w (depending on band), two of my DVRs either "turn off" (standby > really) or start randomly recording whatever channel is being tuned at > the time. I've got the dish grounded and the RG6 feed is passed > multiple passes through large #31 ferrites, with no overall improvement > in RFI. > > I would recommend much more separation of antennas and feedline than I > have, if possible. > > Warren, KD4Z > > On 5/17/2016 10:08 PM, w9hak wrote: > I am contemplating dropping TWC and going to a satellite system. Any > > advise on rfi would be appreciated. > > Smith Bradford > W9HAK > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to d.cutter at ntlworld.com From nq5t at tx.rr.com Wed May 18 10:29:56 2016 From: nq5t at tx.rr.com (GRANT YOUNGMAN) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 09:29:56 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2? In-Reply-To: <573C6A03.4090506@mdodd.com> References: <20160518.075348.10332.0@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> <573C6A03.4090506@mdodd.com> Message-ID: <5AE13BCA-F5C3-4CF0-AC7E-281996F963D6@tx.rr.com> Sounds like something new. If it?s being announced at FDIM s the distributor info seems to say, we should see something on it this weekend. The more I do QRP, the more I like it :-) Grant NQ5T K3 #2091, KX3 #8342 > On May 18, 2016, at 8:11 AM, Mike Dodd wrote: > > On 5/18/2016 8:53 AM, ae5x at juno.com wrote: >> So how do I order a KX2? > > I didn't know there IS a KX2. The KX1 is here: > From anchor at chorus.ocn.ne.jp Wed May 18 10:38:56 2016 From: anchor at chorus.ocn.ne.jp (Nakamura) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 23:38:56 +0900 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2? In-Reply-To: <5AE13BCA-F5C3-4CF0-AC7E-281996F963D6@tx.rr.com> References: <20160518.075348.10332.0@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> <573C6A03.4090506@mdodd.com> <5AE13BCA-F5C3-4CF0-AC7E-281996F963D6@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: This? http://edcjp.sblo.jp/article/175341127.html 73, JE0LFI / Nakamura > Sounds like something new. If it?s being announced at FDIM s the distributor info seems to say, we should see something on it this weekend. > > The more I do QRP, the more I like it :-) > > Grant NQ5T > K3 #2091, KX3 #8342 From r.tristani at gmail.com Wed May 18 10:42:08 2016 From: r.tristani at gmail.com (Ramon Tristani) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 10:42:08 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network In-Reply-To: References: <7b78b623-d500-2a4e-de84-77f30cebff46@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9F5315AA-8A8A-4B36-A1F5-C36163A86243@gmail.com> I used to have ?fiber to the home? while living in Bloomington, Indiana. The provider is Smithville Fiber and in general, their TV, Internet, Telephone bundle is excellent and price wise, very competitive. Having said that, their interface equipment (external fiberoptic to ethernet inside the home) is of such a poor quality that even while tuning the radio with less than 5 watts, the internet would freeze and cease to work. I tried to use multiple RF chokes on the coax from the antenna, the internal ethernet distribution inside the house, even shielding the outside interface box the best I could, but nothing worked. Other hams in the Bloomington area have the same experience and all of us traced it to the poor components and lack of shielding (contrary to FCC requirements) that they use in the provider?s installation. Obviously they never considered that ham radio operator exist and are protected under the FCC Rules. So we went as a group and met with their management. They promised to take action. I don?t know if they every did. Since then, I moved to North Carolina and am now using Time Warner Cable. I have a Hex Beam in my backyard using 100 watts. I also have a doublet fed with window line and a balun inside my attic, same power. No problems to report up to this date. So, it is quite possible that the providers are using the least expensive equipment for cable, TV, and internet distribution. In my case back in Bloomington, Smithville had to change the cable box three times because of defects in materials and workmanship. I know that companies have to make money to subsist, but buying the lowest bidder sometimes brings its own problems. If in doubt, check NASA?s experience! Ram?n E. Tristani Sr. r.tristani at gmail.com NQ9V > On May 18, 2016, at 9:21 AM, David Cutter wrote: > > Some OCF dipoles work very well when used with a 2-choke balun, see DJ0IP for suitable designs. Spiderbeam make proper 2-choke baluns for their OCF dipoles but I don't know of any others. It's all about suppressing those common mode currents on the outside of the coax. He and I have both measured common mode currents with different chokes; see his site for details. http://www.dj0ip.de/balun-stuff/ > > David > G3UNA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Warren Merkel" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 1:23 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network > > >> I have a DirecTV system and haven't had as good luck with RFI as the >> others here. My dish is about 40 feet directly below and near the end >> of an OCF 80m Windom. It worked out that was the only realistic >> position that afforded full Sat views through the trees. >> >> Usually nothing happens at 100w HF output, but when I run the power up >> to 500w (depending on band), two of my DVRs either "turn off" (standby >> really) or start randomly recording whatever channel is being tuned at >> the time. I've got the dish grounded and the RG6 feed is passed >> multiple passes through large #31 ferrites, with no overall improvement >> in RFI. >> >> I would recommend much more separation of antennas and feedline than I >> have, if possible. >> >> Warren, KD4Z >> >> On 5/17/2016 10:08 PM, w9hak wrote: >> I am contemplating dropping TWC and going to a satellite system. Any >> >> advise on rfi would be appreciated. >> >> Smith Bradford >> W9HAK >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to d.cutter at ntlworld.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to r.tristani at gmail.com From btippett at alum.mit.edu Wed May 18 11:33:02 2016 From: btippett at alum.mit.edu (Bill W4ZV) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 08:33:02 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2? In-Reply-To: References: <20160518.075348.10332.0@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> <573C6A03.4090506@mdodd.com> <5AE13BCA-F5C3-4CF0-AC7E-281996F963D6@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <1463585582617-7617568.post@n2.nabble.com> JE0LFI wrote > This? > > http://edcjp.sblo.jp/article/175341127.html English translation: http://bit.ly/27zHGAw 73, Bill W4ZV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/New-KX2-tp7617562p7617568.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ae5x at juno.com Wed May 18 11:46:49 2016 From: ae5x at juno.com (ae5x at juno.com) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 15:46:49 GMT Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2? Message-ID: <20160518.104649.17820.1@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> If this rig actually does become available in the next few weeks I believe I'll forgo my ATS-3B and take the new KX2 on a real expedition: http://www.ae5xreport.com/ I wonder how it would handle being bounced along 2500 miles of trail? John AE5X http://ae5x.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Better Finances New Rule In Local Area http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/573c8e8cee4f4e8c3ed8st02vuc From anchor at chorus.ocn.ne.jp Wed May 18 11:57:51 2016 From: anchor at chorus.ocn.ne.jp (Nakamura) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 00:57:51 +0900 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2? In-Reply-To: <1463585582617-7617568.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <20160518.075348.10332.0@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> <573C6A03.4090506@mdodd.com> <5AE13BCA-F5C3-4CF0-AC7E-281996F963D6@tx.rr.com> <1463585582617-7617568.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <854F5CB2-5EA2-4824-8302-FC2179A15CE6@chorus.ocn.ne.jp> Hi Bill-san / W4ZV It is easy to understand more of this page :0) http://www.hamlife.jp/2016/05/18/elecraft-kx2/elecraft-kx2-005/ 73, Nakamura / JE0LFI > 2016/05/19 0:33?Bill W4ZV > > JE0LFI wrote >> This? >> >> http://edcjp.sblo.jp/article/175341127.html > > English translation: > > http://bit.ly/27zHGAw > > 73, Bill W4ZV From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Wed May 18 12:21:03 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 09:21:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network In-Reply-To: <201605180326.u4I3QIHX016414@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201605180326.u4I3QIHX016414@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <573C966F.9040109@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Tue,5/17/2016 8:26 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: > I suppose some ferrites and shielding the separate switcher would > solve this. Or replace the switcher with a linear supply. 73, Jim K9YC From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Wed May 18 12:27:30 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 09:27:30 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network In-Reply-To: <7b78b623-d500-2a4e-de84-77f30cebff46@gmail.com> References: <7b78b623-d500-2a4e-de84-77f30cebff46@gmail.com> Message-ID: <573C97F2.5000206@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Wed,5/18/2016 5:23 AM, Warren Merkel wrote: > I would recommend much more separation of antennas and feedline than I have, if possible. Your antenna, an off-center-fed Windom, is notorious for generating common mode current on the feedline, and there's no way to choke it effectively to kill that current. So what you're calling a feedline Mother Nature calls part of the antenna. THAT'S a primary cause of your problem. If you're having issues on 80M, you'll need at least 13 turns of the RG6 through a single #31 toroid to make a dent in the common mode current. Grounding the dish is important for lightning safety, but it is NOT part of a solution for RFI. The earth is not a "sump" into which RF is poured. 73, Jim K9YC From wunder at wunderwood.org Wed May 18 12:27:34 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 09:27:34 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2? In-Reply-To: <20160518.104649.17820.1@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> References: <20160518.104649.17820.1@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: It weighs 13 ounces. You might be able to get a full kit under a pound (batteries, antenna, etc.). http://www.hamlife.jp/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/elecraft-kx2-005.png wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On May 18, 2016, at 8:46 AM, ae5x at juno.com wrote: > > If this rig actually does become available in the next few weeks I believe I'll forgo my ATS-3B and take the new KX2 on a real expedition: > http://www.ae5xreport.com/ > > I wonder how it would handle being bounced along 2500 miles of trail? > > John AE5X > http://ae5x.blogspot.com/ > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Better Finances > New Rule In Local Area > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/573c8e8cee4f4e8c3ed8st02vuc > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From john at kk9a.com Wed May 18 12:43:37 2016 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 12:43:37 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network Message-ID: I have no RFI with Dish. Try using a balanced antenna with a choke and quality coax. John KK9A Warren Merkel Wed May 18 08:23:30 EDT 2016 I have a DirecTV system and haven't had as good luck with RFI as the others here. My dish is about 40 feet directly below and near the end of an OCF 80m Windom. It worked out that was the only realistic position that afforded full Sat views through the trees. Usually nothing happens at 100w HF output, but when I run the power up to 500w (depending on band), two of my DVRs either "turn off" (standby really) or start randomly recording whatever channel is being tuned at the time. I've got the dish grounded and the RG6 feed is passed multiple passes through large #31 ferrites, with no overall improvement in RFI. I would recommend much more separation of antennas and feedline than I have, if possible. Warren, KD4Z On 5/17/2016 10:08 PM, w9hak wrote: I am contemplating dropping TWC and going to a satellite system. Any advise on rfi would be appreciated. Smith Bradford W9HAK From john at johnjeanantiqueradio.com Wed May 18 12:50:43 2016 From: john at johnjeanantiqueradio.com (John K9UWA) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 12:50:43 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network In-Reply-To: <573C966F.9040109@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <201605180326.u4I3QIHX016414@mail40c28.carrierzone.com>, <573C966F.9040109@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <573C9D63.28664.20E1D055@john.johnjeanantiqueradio.com> Jim is 100% correct. The Direct TV receivers are HORRIBLE for noise generation. Maybe you can't hear it if your Ham Antenna is far enough away but it is there for sure. I bought a Sony model ICF-2001 to use looking for various noises about the house. You don't want the later models as they have auto noise blankers in them. The radio covers AM/SW/FM and does AM or SSB. Jim is exactly correct regarding the Wall Wart type switcher supply on these Direct TV receivers. They are 12.6 vdc so easy for us Hams to pick up a nice small linear transformer powered regulated supply. I also hooked up the Modem and Router to this same linear supply. Yes every one of them made noise. Next the HDMI cable from the Direct TV receiver to the TV set also mades lots of racket. I use TWO of the FT-240 mix 31 cores and managed to get about 5 turns through both chokes. That killed the HDMI cable noise. John k9uwa > On Tue,5/17/2016 8:26 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: > > I suppose some ferrites and shielding the separate switcher would > > solve this. > > Or replace the switcher with a linear supply. > > 73, Jim K9YC From w9hak at twc.com Wed May 18 12:56:49 2016 From: w9hak at twc.com (w9hak) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 11:56:49 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network In-Reply-To: <18e6b4f5-2ead-4174-6a6b-5d075131e266@twc.com> References: <18e6b4f5-2ead-4174-6a6b-5d075131e266@twc.com> Message-ID: <19999ce1-7636-696e-b31d-13054423fd51@twc.com> Thanks to all that replied to my question. Great list! Smith Bradford W9HAK On 5/17/2016 3:15 PM, w9hak wrote: > I am contemplating dropping TWC and going to a satellite system. Any > advise on rfi would be appreciated. > > Smith Bradford > W9HAK > From fraz1 at bellsouth.net Wed May 18 13:05:59 2016 From: fraz1 at bellsouth.net (John Frazier) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 12:05:59 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 eHam Review Message-ID: <573CA0F7.4040005@bellsouth.net> W3DX has posted a review of the KX2 on eHam. He claims to be a Field Tester. 73 John W4II From eric at elecraft.com Wed May 18 13:30:18 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 10:30:18 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network In-Reply-To: <19999ce1-7636-696e-b31d-13054423fd51@twc.com> References: <18e6b4f5-2ead-4174-6a6b-5d075131e266@twc.com> <19999ce1-7636-696e-b31d-13054423fd51@twc.com> Message-ID: Great info. :-) Now that the OPs question is answered, let's close the thread now in the interest of containing email overload for our other readers. 73, Eric (in the air heading to Dayton..) Moderator elecraft.com _..._ > On May 18, 2016, at 9:56 AM, w9hak wrote: > > Thanks to all that replied to my question. Great list! From ne2i at yahoo.com Wed May 18 14:27:27 2016 From: ne2i at yahoo.com (George Cortez) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 18:27:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 eHam Review In-Reply-To: <573CA0F7.4040005@bellsouth.net> References: <573CA0F7.4040005@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <1665480341.4947485.1463596047303.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> If Elecraft can make a lithium ion battery for the kx2, Can they make a retrofit for the KX3? Please Please!It would lighten up the package and extend run times and overall be so much better than the AA battery pack! George NE2I On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 12:26 PM, John Frazier wrote: W3DX has posted a review of the KX2 on eHam. He claims to be a Field Tester. 73 John W4II ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ne2i at yahoo.com From nielwiegand at aggienetwork.com Wed May 18 15:10:40 2016 From: nielwiegand at aggienetwork.com (Niel Wiegand) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 14:10:40 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2? Message-ID: <573CBE30.2000700@aggienetwork.com> Steve, WG0AT, let the cat (or goat?) out of the bag. See http://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?a=35DkbDsYyDY&u=/watch%3Fv%3DrAFYDJRZlHw%26feature%3Dem-uploademail What's a KX2? Niel - W0VLZ From listk7age at gmail.com Wed May 18 15:15:27 2016 From: listk7age at gmail.com (Randy Hall) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 12:15:27 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2? In-Reply-To: <573CBE30.2000700@aggienetwork.com> References: <573CBE30.2000700@aggienetwork.com> Message-ID: Eric is giving a talk about Shrinking the Multi-Mode HF Transceiver at 8:20 ttomorrow at FDIM Randy, K7AGE On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Niel Wiegand wrote: > Steve, WG0AT, let the cat (or goat?) out of the bag. See > http://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?a=35DkbDsYyDY&u=/watch%3Fv%3DrAFYDJRZlHw%26feature%3Dem-uploademail > > What's a KX2? > > Niel - W0VLZ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to listk7age at gmail.com > From skavanagh72 at yahoo.ca Wed May 18 16:40:33 2016 From: skavanagh72 at yahoo.ca (Steve Kavanagh) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 20:40:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] [K2] External amplifier keying circuit question References: <1356780703.4432118.1463604033764.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1356780703.4432118.1463604033764.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Initial testing using the two-MOSFET circuit (http://www.mmccs.com/mmarc/n0ss/k2_t-r_rly_drvr.pdf ) with two 2N7000s, but with R3 removed, indicates that it is working fine, switching a load of about 50 mA at 12-13V. I left R2 in. Thanks all for your comments. 73, Steve VE3SMA From vk1zzgary at gmail.com Wed May 18 16:42:57 2016 From: vk1zzgary at gmail.com (Gary) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 06:42:57 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2? In-Reply-To: References: <573CBE30.2000700@aggienetwork.com> Message-ID: <573cd3d8.8231420a.9d682.0645@mx.google.com> Heads will roll.... What a crack up. Man it looks sweet, I could use one of those. Gary -----Original Message----- From: "Randy Hall" Sent: ?19/?05/?2016 5:17 AM To: "Niel Wiegand" Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2? Eric is giving a talk about Shrinking the Multi-Mode HF Transceiver at 8:20 ttomorrow at FDIM Randy, K7AGE On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Niel Wiegand wrote: > Steve, WG0AT, let the cat (or goat?) out of the bag. See > http://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?a=35DkbDsYyDY&u=/watch%3Fv%3DrAFYDJRZlHw%26feature%3Dem-uploademail > > What's a KX2? > > Niel - W0VLZ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to listk7age at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vk1zzgary at gmail.com From aa4r at chartermi.net Wed May 18 17:14:24 2016 From: aa4r at chartermi.net (aa4r at chartermi.net) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 17:14:24 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S mode/bands switching using N1MM Message-ID: <4C6BBD11D1B84EBCA0FAE97265DAA3CE@Billpc> I have a problem and not sure if it is N1MM related or K3S related. When hitting the band/mode panel in N1MM to go from SSB to CW or vice versa, about 30% of the time the mode fails to change. The band always changes correctly, but can?t depend on the mode changing. It is not a consistent problem and failures occur after several changes working correctly. Anyone experiencing the same problem? Any advice? Thanks, Bill, AA4R From tomb18 at videotron.ca Wed May 18 17:38:07 2016 From: tomb18 at videotron.ca (tomb18) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 17:38:07 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S mode/bands switching using N1MM Message-ID: <0ue3vj8dhppwf7oeqrupog0c.1463607487606@email.android.com> N1MM doesn't wait for a response to polling. Your only choice here is to turn down the polling rate.Tomva2fsq.com? Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.-------- Original message --------From: aa4r at chartermi.net Date: 2016-05-18 5:14 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Elecraft Forum Subject: [Elecraft] K3S mode/bands switching using N1MM I have a problem and not sure if it is N1MM related or K3S related.? When hitting the band/mode panel in N1MM to go from SSB to CW or vice versa, about 30% of the time the mode fails to change.? The band always changes correctly, but can?t depend on the mode changing.? It is not a consistent problem and failures occur after several changes working correctly.? Anyone experiencing the same problem?? Any advice? Thanks, Bill, AA4R ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tomb18 at videotron.ca From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Wed May 18 19:15:48 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 00:15:48 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] Travel Case for K3/s KX3 In-Reply-To: <023729ab-6bf5-01b5-53d9-c8643c635b92@socal.rr.com> References: <023729ab-6bf5-01b5-53d9-c8643c635b92@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: I was lucky to get one of these messenger bags when they were available. Absolutely perfect for the KX3 with accessories. The thing it is almost identical apart from logo to the National Geographic messenger bag, but a quarter of the price as it doesn't have the branding. https://www.7dayshop.com/products/7dayshop-canvas-photographers-messenger-shoulder-bag-removable-interior-and-rain-cover-included-DS-014 I recommended one to a ham in France and he was also delighted with it and was going to get another for his camera gear. 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 18 May 2016, at 00:38, Phil Wheeler wrote: > > My KX3 travel case is a LowePro camera case I happened to have for a camera system I sold, the Nova 170 AW. My current camera system fits in my second Nova 170 AW :-) > > http://www.amazon.com/Lowepro-Nova-DSLR-Camera-Shoulder/dp/B0016J1EAY?ie=UTF8&keywords=lowepro%20nova%20170aw&qid=1463527880&ref_=sr_1_2&sr=8-2 > > The KX3 fits in vertically and perfectly. It also holds antenna, paddle, a small brick power supply, a 6 A-hr Li-ion battery I have etc. I've not tried to fit the PX3 in this case yet. > > Well padded, has a water-proof cover, etc. Fits like it was made for the KX3. > > 73, Phil W7OX > From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Wed May 18 19:34:21 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 18:34:21 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2? In-Reply-To: <573cd3d8.8231420a.9d682.0645@mx.google.com> References: <573CBE30.2000700@aggienetwork.com> <573cd3d8.8231420a.9d682.0645@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <2e69047d-7ddd-1bcd-69e6-857811715062@mediacombb.net> Heads should roll. Part of being a beta tester is learning to keep your yap shut until told to open it. A couple of people should have short beta tester careers. The above supposes they weren't told to release the info. I don't remember anybody spilling the beans when the KX3 was released until the video of Wayne carrying it around the room at Dayton was set forth. On 5/18/2016 3:42 PM, Gary wrote: > Heads will roll.... > > What a crack up. Man it looks sweet, I could use one of those. > > Gary > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Randy Hall" > Sent: ?19/?05/?2016 5:17 AM > To: "Niel Wiegand" > Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2? > > Eric is giving a talk about Shrinking the Multi-Mode HF Transceiver at > 8:20 ttomorrow at FDIM > > Randy, K7AGE > > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Niel Wiegand > wrote: >> Steve, WG0AT, let the cat (or goat?) out of the bag. See >> http://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?a=35DkbDsYyDY&u=/watch%3Fv%3DrAFYDJRZlHw%26feature%3Dem-uploademail >> >> What's a KX2? >> >> Niel - W0VLZ >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to listk7age at gmail.com >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to vk1zzgary at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevin.stover at mediacombb.net -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From k6dgw at foothill.net Wed May 18 20:07:03 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 17:07:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2? In-Reply-To: <2e69047d-7ddd-1bcd-69e6-857811715062@mediacombb.net> References: <573CBE30.2000700@aggienetwork.com> <573cd3d8.8231420a.9d682.0645@mx.google.com> <2e69047d-7ddd-1bcd-69e6-857811715062@mediacombb.net> Message-ID: I [and my employer] beta tested various items over the years. Often the item was unbranded, no model or serial number, if electronic, it had the FCC and CE label. They trusted us [and me] to beat it up, do everything we could to crash the software, and I've never found a technology I couldn't break ... and they trusted us to do so privately and not talk about it. It's part of the engineering process. The majority of Elecraft customers can't stand not knowing what's next -- refer to the email list if you doubt -- but after beta, the engineers will address the problems found, and the production release may not match the beta product. If the beta test period is public, that will release a new onslaught of questions about "what happened to ..." or "the one I saw did ...". The excitement is cool, and I enjoy it as much as anyone. But Elecraft has progressed from a very small startup to a large company with many employees, large design and test staffs, and a very large production and distribution operation. They're behaving that way. My KX1 may find it's way to market, age and old injuries are taking a toll on mobility, especially on non-paved surfaces. I love my K2, the KX2 looks really cool, but maybe not for me at this point in life. If you want it, it looks like a great radio for a really great price, and it comes with great customer service. But no heads should be rolling, they did their job, admirably. Congratulations on a great new product Elecraft! 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org From w7ox at socal.rr.com Wed May 18 20:29:03 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 17:29:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2? In-Reply-To: <2e69047d-7ddd-1bcd-69e6-857811715062@mediacombb.net> References: <573CBE30.2000700@aggienetwork.com> <573cd3d8.8231420a.9d682.0645@mx.google.com> <2e69047d-7ddd-1bcd-69e6-857811715062@mediacombb.net> Message-ID: <904d9875-d8b5-1a07-dc4a-c58993395fd0@socal.rr.com> Perhaps they were given a specified not before date and it was today. Phil W7OX On 5/18/16 4:34 PM, Kevin Stover wrote: > Heads should roll. > Part of being a beta tester is learning to keep > your yap shut until told to open it. > A couple of people should have short beta tester > careers. > > The above supposes they weren't told to release > the info. > > I don't remember anybody spilling the beans when > the KX3 was released until the video of Wayne > carrying it around the room at Dayton was set > forth. > > On 5/18/2016 3:42 PM, Gary wrote: >> Heads will roll.... >> >> What a crack up. Man it looks sweet, I could >> use one of those. >> >> Gary >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Randy Hall" >> Sent: ?19/?05/?2016 5:17 AM >> To: "Niel Wiegand" >> Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" >> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2? >> >> Eric is giving a talk about Shrinking the >> Multi-Mode HF Transceiver at >> 8:20 ttomorrow at FDIM >> >> Randy, K7AGE >> >> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Niel Wiegand >> >> wrote: >>> Steve, WG0AT, let the cat (or goat?) out of >>> the bag. See >>> http://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?a=35DkbDsYyDY&u=/watch%3Fv%3DrAFYDJRZlHw%26feature%3Dem-uploademail >>> >>> >>> What's a KX2? >>> >>> Niel - W0VLZ From n6kr at elecraft.com Wed May 18 20:36:05 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 17:36:05 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2? In-Reply-To: <2e69047d-7ddd-1bcd-69e6-857811715062@mediacombb.net> References: <573CBE30.2000700@aggienetwork.com> <573cd3d8.8231420a.9d682.0645@mx.google.com> <2e69047d-7ddd-1bcd-69e6-857811715062@mediacombb.net> Message-ID: <25AACADC-169E-4231-A892-A030085CA3FA@elecraft.com> The beta testers were not the source. 'Nuff said.... It really made my day a lot more interesting. And watch this space over the next 12 hours ;) Wayne N6KR On May 18, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Kevin Stover wrote: > Heads should roll. > Part of being a beta tester is learning to keep your yap shut until told to open it. > A couple of people should have short beta tester careers. > > The above supposes they weren't told to release the info. > > I don't remember anybody spilling the beans when the KX3 was released until the video of Wayne carrying it around the room at Dayton was set forth. > > On 5/18/2016 3:42 PM, Gary wrote: >> Heads will roll.... >> >> What a crack up. Man it looks sweet, I could use one of those. >> >> Gary >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Randy Hall" >> Sent: ?19/?05/?2016 5:17 AM >> To: "Niel Wiegand" >> Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2? >> >> Eric is giving a talk about Shrinking the Multi-Mode HF Transceiver at >> 8:20 ttomorrow at FDIM >> >> Randy, K7AGE From ormandj at corenode.com Wed May 18 21:05:15 2016 From: ormandj at corenode.com (David Orman) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 20:05:15 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 eHam Review In-Reply-To: <1665480341.4947485.1463596047303.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <573CA0F7.4040005@bellsouth.net> <1665480341.4947485.1463596047303.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Completely agree, I'd love the upgraded battery option if it's possible within the constraints of the KX3 HW. There also looked to be some software functionality like RTC adjustment and amp-hour display that would be cool to have in the KX3, as well. On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 1:27 PM, George Cortez via Elecraft < elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > If Elecraft can make a lithium ion battery for the kx2, Can they make a > retrofit for the KX3? Please Please!It would lighten up the package and > extend run times and overall be so much better than the AA battery pack! > George NE2I > > > > On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 12:26 PM, John Frazier > wrote: > > > W3DX has posted a review of the KX2 on eHam. He claims to be a Field > Tester. > > 73 John W4II > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ne2i at yahoo.com > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ormandj at corenode.com > From mjwetzel at comcast.net Wed May 18 21:10:39 2016 From: mjwetzel at comcast.net (Mike Wetzel) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 21:10:39 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 RFI on 21.400 Message-ID: <71EC1D082C254E5DA083EDC68B14F239@rockne> I live about 1 mile from a strong FM broadcast station tower that transmits on 97.1Mhz. I have talked to the station engineer and they are in process of running some tests and of course don't think it is their problem. The RFI shows up from about 21.380 to 21.430 (an FM signal) with an antenna and with no antenna connected to the radio. In fact the RFI is present to a lower level with no connections to a K3 and only battery powered. It is almost eliminated with snap on cores on the battery power cord but seems to come in also when other connections are made to the radio (is stronger also). It happens on 3 different K3s. It is also present more or less on these frequencies 6.83, 9.56, 12.85, 21.422, 24.285 and sometimes loudest on 26.890. It is also strong at the transmitter site. The RFI is not present on Icom radios. Does anyone else live near a station tower that transmits on 97.1 that does or does not experience this. Thanks, Mike W9RE From nq5t at tx.rr.com Wed May 18 21:25:19 2016 From: nq5t at tx.rr.com (GRANT YOUNGMAN) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 20:25:19 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Another KX2 video Message-ID: <6683ABA3-E770-4335-9FF2-2A2D22F85D24@tx.rr.com> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CyCoqBhlCQ Looks like a really great and easy to pack QRP radio!! Since it wasn?t that long ago I sprung for the KX3/PX3, I?m not sure this is going to be tomorrow?s purchase, but the Fortune Teller automaton seems to think there may be one in the not too terribly distant future after the relocation dust settles. Grant NQ5T K3 #2091, KX3 #8342 From jbammi at mac.com Wed May 18 21:59:22 2016 From: jbammi at mac.com (Jwahar Bammi) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 21:59:22 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 ? Message-ID: <573D1DFA.30103@mac.com> Anyone taping/streaming the talks at FDIM, would love to hear Eric's talk. Maybe Elecraft will post the presentation materials? >Eric is giving a talk about Shrinking the Multi-Mode HF Transceiver at >8:20 ttomorrow at FDIM >Randy, K7A 73 de kc1ccr From w7ox at socal.rr.com Wed May 18 22:10:02 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 19:10:02 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 ? In-Reply-To: <20902ceb-498f-19c5-0e82-65a9211b15eb@socal.rr.com> References: <20902ceb-498f-19c5-0e82-65a9211b15eb@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <1aa5394a-2073-2f1b-a88b-720ab365ab50@socal.rr.com> From here http://www.qrparci.org/fdim No streaming this year. 73, Phil W7OX On 5/18/16 6:59 PM, Jwahar Bammi wrote: > Anyone taping/streaming the talks at FDIM, would > love to hear Eric's talk. Maybe Elecraft will > post the presentation materials? > >> Eric is giving a talk about Shrinking the >> Multi-Mode HF Transceiver at >> 8:20 ttomorrow at FDIM > >> Randy, K7A > > > 73 de kc1ccr From w7aqk at cox.net Wed May 18 22:52:46 2016 From: w7aqk at cox.net (w7aqk) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 19:52:46 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2 Message-ID: Hi All, Well, those hoping for a K4 have been foiled again!!!! Interesting that Elecraft chose to go with a reduced sized KX3 as their new offering, but it does make some sense. There are several new, smaller QRP rigs coming out these days, and possibly this may blunt the interest in those to some extent. It's also just a tad bit irritating that the info we are seeing, for the most part, is coming out of Japan!!! I don't quite get that. Well, we are probably only a few days away from more info here. As an owner of a KX3, I won't be moved too quickly to jump on this new offering. However, those on the fence up to now may find this to be a more appealing option. It's not yet clear what you are giving up--a couple of watts apparently, and a couple of bands at both ends of the HF spectrum (160 and 6). I assume the PX3 will mate with the KX2, but not sure. Hopefully the ATU option will be as good. One thing that intrigues me somewhat is that the KX2, combined with the KPAX100, might be a more versatile portable/mobile combination than the KX3 as a substitute. For mobile operating, the KX3 is a bit clumsy, but the reduced size of the KX2 might make it work better--not sure. Anyway, I just continue to be fascinated with what Elecraft comes up with. They are fun to watch! I had sort of expected maybe something with a larger display, and maybe a touch screen, but not yet! That may be a K4 feature, whenever that comes about. Dave W7AQK From joe at selectconnect.net Wed May 18 22:58:39 2016 From: joe at selectconnect.net (Joe Moffatt) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 02:58:39 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I agree with you... I use my KX3 mobile, but it is a bit of a clumsy thing (though I use it with only 15 watts, it works wonders). I will add the 100 watt amp at some point. I don't need the 2 bands, so I would be VERY interested in this rig. joe ________________________________ From: Elecraft [elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] on behalf of w7aqk [w7aqk at cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:52 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New KX2 Hi All, Well, those hoping for a K4 have been foiled again!!!! Interesting that Elecraft chose to go with a reduced sized KX3 as their new offering, but it does make some sense. There are several new, smaller QRP rigs coming out these days, and possibly this may blunt the interest in those to some extent. It's also just a tad bit irritating that the info we are seeing, for the most part, is coming out of Japan!!! I don't quite get that. Well, we are probably only a few days away from more info here. As an owner of a KX3, I won't be moved too quickly to jump on this new offering. However, those on the fence up to now may find this to be a more appealing option. It's not yet clear what you are giving up--a couple of watts apparently, and a couple of bands at both ends of the HF spectrum (160 and 6). I assume the PX3 will mate with the KX2, but not sure. Hopefully the ATU option will be as good. One thing that intrigues me somewhat is that the KX2, combined with the KPAX100, might be a more versatile portable/mobile combination than the KX3 as a substitute. For mobile operating, the KX3 is a bit clumsy, but the reduced size of the KX2 might make it work better--not sure. Anyway, I just continue to be fascinated with what Elecraft comes up with. They are fun to watch! I had sort of expected maybe something with a larger display, and maybe a touch screen, but not yet! That may be a K4 feature, whenever that comes about. Dave W7AQK ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to joe at selectconnect.net ________________________________ Total Control Panel Login To: joe at selectconnect.net From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net Message Score: 1 High (60): Pass My Spam Blocking Level: Medium Medium (75): Pass Low (90): Pass Block this sender / Block this sender enterprise-wide Block mailman.qth.net / Block mailman.qth.net enterprise-wide This message was delivered because the content filter score did not exceed your filter level. From w7ox at socal.rr.com Wed May 18 22:59:08 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 19:59:08 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4ee8bda3-4306-7a8d-7c87-b7ec4cb99244@socal.rr.com> Re "It's also just a tad bit irritating that the info we are seeing, for the most part, is coming out of Japan!!! I don't quite get that.": Maybe because it's been tomorrow there for some time? :-) 73, Phil W7OX On 5/18/16 7:52 PM, w7aqk wrote: > Hi All, > > Well, those hoping for a K4 have been foiled > again!!!! > > Interesting that Elecraft chose to go with a > reduced sized KX3 as their new offering, but it > does make some sense. There are several new, > smaller QRP rigs coming out these days, and > possibly this may blunt the interest in those to > some extent. It's also just a tad bit > irritating that the info we are seeing, for the > most part, is coming out of Japan!!! I don't > quite get that. Well, we are probably only a few > days away from more info here. > > As an owner of a KX3, I won't be moved too > quickly to jump on this new offering. However, > those on the fence up to now may find this to be > a more appealing option. It's not yet clear > what you are giving up--a couple of watts > apparently, and a couple of bands at both ends > of the HF spectrum (160 and 6). I assume the > PX3 will mate with the KX2, but not sure. > Hopefully the ATU option will be as good. > > One thing that intrigues me somewhat is that the > KX2, combined with the KPAX100, might be a more > versatile portable/mobile combination than the > KX3 as a substitute. For mobile operating, the > KX3 is a bit clumsy, but the reduced size of the > KX2 might make it work better--not sure. > > Anyway, I just continue to be fascinated with > what Elecraft comes up with. They are fun to > watch! I had sort of expected maybe something > with a larger display, and maybe a touch screen, > but not yet! That may be a K4 feature, whenever > that comes about. > > Dave W7AQK From todd at ruby-wine.com Thu May 19 00:00:55 2016 From: todd at ruby-wine.com (Todd Ruby) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 00:00:55 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors Message-ID: Friends, The only PL-259 connectors any amateur should ever use are the ones from Amphenol stamped 83-1SP. If you don't believe me, you can easily discuss this issue with Frank, W3LPL. If you are at Dayton, he'll be covering various topics during Contest University or gabbing with contesters and DXers at the Crowne Plaza. He is a very good person to know if you don't know him already. 73 Todd WB2ZAB From rpfjeld at outlook.com Thu May 19 01:16:45 2016 From: rpfjeld at outlook.com (Richard Fjeld) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 00:16:45 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 eHam Review In-Reply-To: <1665480341.4947485.1463596047303.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <573CA0F7.4040005@bellsouth.net> <1665480341.4947485.1463596047303.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Have you considered using either 18650 or 14500 lithium ion batteries? They are rated at 3.7 volts, but I find when charged, they are typically about 4.2 volts. Three of them will be a bit over 12 volts. I have 18650 cells that are 9800 mAh each. There is another cell that is shorter, but I can't remember it's nomenclature. Dick, n0ce On 5/18/2016 1:27 PM, George Cortez via Elecraft wrote: > If Elecraft can make a lithium ion battery for the kx2, Can they make a retrofit for the KX3? Please Please!It would lighten up the package and extend run times and overall be so much better than the AA battery pack! > George NE2I > > > From ne2i at yahoo.com Thu May 19 01:24:57 2016 From: ne2i at yahoo.com (George Cortez) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 05:24:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KX2? In-Reply-To: <25AACADC-169E-4231-A892-A030085CA3FA@elecraft.com> References: <573CBE30.2000700@aggienetwork.com> <573cd3d8.8231420a.9d682.0645@mx.google.com> <2e69047d-7ddd-1bcd-69e6-857811715062@mediacombb.net> <25AACADC-169E-4231-A892-A030085CA3FA@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <115028331.5050328.1463635497774.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I love the buzz and easter egg stuff. Bring it on! George NE2I On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 7:51 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: The beta testers were not the source. 'Nuff said.... It really made my day a lot more interesting. And watch this space over the next 12 hours ;) Wayne N6KR On May 18, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Kevin Stover wrote: > Heads should roll. > Part of being a beta tester is learning to keep your yap shut until told to open it. > A couple of people should have short beta tester careers. > > The above supposes they weren't told to release the info. > > I don't remember anybody spilling the beans when the KX3 was released until the video of Wayne carrying it around the room at Dayton was set forth. > > On 5/18/2016 3:42 PM, Gary wrote: >> Heads will roll.... >> >> What a crack up. Man it looks sweet, I could use one of those. >> >> Gary >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Randy Hall" >> Sent: ?19/?05/?2016 5:17 AM >> To: "Niel Wiegand" >> Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2? >> >>? Eric is giving a talk about Shrinking the Multi-Mode HF Transceiver at >> 8:20 ttomorrow at FDIM >> >> Randy, K7AGE ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ne2i at yahoo.com From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Thu May 19 04:10:33 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 00:10:33 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network Message-ID: <201605190810.u4J8AYWt020488@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> First off, the Dish-NET receiver produced no RFI. It was not digital satellite so used s-video connections to Home Theater receiver which was connected to TV via HDMI. New Direct-TV receiver is high-def digital receiver so it uses HDMI interconnect to home theater. TV/home theater is on other side of wall from ham shack. The PS is not a wall wart. It looks more like an overgrown laptop PS. But I can try toroids on power cable and HDMI to see if that quiets it. Really no problem most of the time as 2m is not in use when TV is in use. I have not determined what the dc voltage out of the satellite PS. KX3 in AM mode works fine as RFI sniffer. 73, Ed - KL7UW From: "John K9UWA" To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network Message-ID: <573C9D63.28664.20E1D055 at john.johnjeanantiqueradio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Jim is 100% correct. The Direct TV receivers are HORRIBLE for noise generation. Maybe you can't hear it if your Ham Antenna is far enough away but it is there for sure. I bought a Sony model ICF-2001 to use looking for various noises about the house. You don't want the later models as they have auto noise blankers in them. The radio covers AM/SW/FM and does AM or SSB. Jim is exactly correct regarding the Wall Wart type switcher supply on these Direct TV receivers. They are 12.6 vdc so easy for us Hams to pick up a nice small linear transformer powered regulated supply. I also hooked up the Modem and Router to this same linear supply. Yes every one of them made noise. Next the HDMI cable from the Direct TV receiver to the TV set also mades lots of racket. I use TWO of the FT-240 mix 31 cores and managed to get about 5 turns through both chokes. That killed the HDMI cable noise. John k9uwa 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Thu May 19 04:20:59 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 00:20:59 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2? Message-ID: <201605190821.u4J8KxdN030278@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> Guess if it is unveiled at Dayton - more excitement! Quick look-over and doesn't appear to replace my KX3 which has more to offer me. I don't do SOTA so don't need super-small. Will enjoy reading about it once details are published. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From w5sum at comcast.net Thu May 19 05:42:25 2016 From: w5sum at comcast.net (w5sum at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 04:42:25 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <709CEAC91320483E94B1981729A5CFE1@MININTMC1HLDC> I was lucky enough to purchase a master box of 1000 of those 83-1SP's back in the late 70's when they were REALLY silver plated. I have enough for a life time GREAT connectors and with them, no fool would ever need a Type N W5SUM -----Original Message----- From: Todd Ruby Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 11:00 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors Friends, The only PL-259 connectors any amateur should ever use are the ones from Amphenol stamped 83-1SP. If you don't believe me, you can easily discuss this issue with Frank, W3LPL. If you are at Dayton, he'll be covering various topics during Contest University or gabbing with contesters and DXers at the Crowne Plaza. He is a very good person to know if you don't know him already. 73 Todd WB2ZAB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w5sum at comcast.net From wa2si at arrl.net Thu May 19 07:06:17 2016 From: wa2si at arrl.net (Bert Craig) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 07:06:17 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <22db1f2e-e29b-4a2b-abe0-de460f44fe28.maildroid@localhost> I used Amphenol exclusively until they moved their manufacturing from the USA to Mexico. Now the 83-1SP is no longer stamped, (Engraved.) its printed. (Ink?) Same quality? It could be, but it doesn't appear to be. (Cheaper phenolic/Teflon?) I have a sizeable stash of USA-made Amphenol and J&I (NJ) connectors. This is very much on topic wrt Elecraft products since, with the practice of outsourcing local jobs offshore, there is some additional satisfaction that the majority of my hard earned money will trickle down to a dinner table in NJ, Tennessee, or... Aptos, CA. Some naysayers will say that there will always be more convenient offshore sources and they'd be correct, but you do what you can. If not now, then when? Vy 73 de Bert WA2SI Sent from my android device. -----Original Message----- From: Todd Ruby To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Sent: Thu, 19 May 2016 0:00 Subject: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors Friends, The only PL-259 connectors any amateur should ever use are the ones from Amphenol stamped 83-1SP. If you don't believe me, you can easily discuss this issue with Frank, W3LPL. If you are at Dayton, he'll be covering various topics during Contest University or gabbing with contesters and DXers at the Crowne Plaza. He is a very good person to know if you don't know him already. 73 Todd WB2ZAB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wa2si at arrl.net From w2up at comcast.net Thu May 19 08:01:25 2016 From: w2up at comcast.net (Barry) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 05:01:25 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors In-Reply-To: <22db1f2e-e29b-4a2b-abe0-de460f44fe28.maildroid@localhost> References: <22db1f2e-e29b-4a2b-abe0-de460f44fe28.maildroid@localhost> Message-ID: <1463659285825-7617605.post@n2.nabble.com> Do you think whatever you're plugging into uses Amphenol SO-239's? Barry W2UP -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PL-259-connectors-tp7617598p7617605.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ditzian at windstream.net Thu May 19 08:09:56 2016 From: ditzian at windstream.net (Jan Ditzian) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 08:09:56 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Irrelevant post about KX2 Message-ID: <6d5520d4-460e-a042-f1de-ed9b21fae7c2@windstream.net> In the new spirit of posting irrelevant or non-technical posts, I have decided to contribute my own. I am pleased to state that I received the first KX2, out of the first batch of 26, in 1982, and have used it successfully for the past 34 years. I currently use it with my Elecraft K3 to work DX. 73, Jan, KX2A From john at kk9a.com Thu May 19 09:27:16 2016 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 09:27:16 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors Message-ID: Unfortunately probably no manufacture is using Amphenol jacks. I have had N jack failures in equipment where non-Amphenol connectors lost their spring and I previously owned an Acom amp that had very loose fitting SO-239's. John KK9A from: Barry w2up Thu May 19 08:01:25 EDT 2016 Do you think whatever you're plugging into uses Amphenol SO-239's? Barry W2UP From w5sum at comcast.net Thu May 19 09:32:50 2016 From: w5sum at comcast.net (Ronnie Hull) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 08:32:50 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <79ECFE13-C270-41F9-B7A8-B7751426A8FF@comcast.net> Type N connectors are great! I just don't see where is any gain to using them on HF! They will make NO difference on either end of your QSO. Most of the PL259's I see for sale today are crap. I'm a professional in the communications industry so I use both styles on a Dailey basis The 83-1SP's as sold by amphenol today are not anywhere near as good as they used to be. The silver coating on them doesn't take solder as easily as they once did! Glad I have plenty of the old ones! Ronnie w5sum Sent from Ronnie's IPhone > On May 19, 2016, at 08:27, "john at kk9a.com" wrote: > > Unfortunately probably no manufacture is using Amphenol jacks. I have had > N jack failures in equipment where non-Amphenol connectors lost their > spring and I previously owned an Acom amp that had very loose fitting > SO-239's. > > John KK9A > > from: Barry w2up > Thu May 19 08:01:25 EDT 2016 > > Do you think whatever you're plugging into uses Amphenol SO-239's? > > Barry W2UP > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w5sum at comcast.net From hullspeed21 at gmail.com Thu May 19 09:41:56 2016 From: hullspeed21 at gmail.com (Warren Merkel) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 09:41:56 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the note Jim, However I've already got multiple passes of the OCF Feedline fed through a stack of five 2.4" #31 donuts, per your very own, excellent RFI-Ham.pdf article. Picture on my QRZ page. https://www.qrz.com/db/KD4Z The RG6 has a stack of three donuts with a large number (didn't count) of turns, located at the demark point to the house. I guess I could add another set and spread out the Z over frequency a bit more. I believe I need to look for other entry points to the entertainment system as a whole, as the DirecTV DVR is network connected and of course, connected to an AV receiver. Lots of points of entry to squelch. Warren, KD4Z On 5/18/2016 8:29 PM, Jim Brown wrote: Your antenna, an off-center-fed Windom, is notorious for generating common mode current on the feedline, and there's no way to choke it effectively to kill that current. So what you're calling a feedline Mother Nature calls part of the antenna. THAT'S a primary cause of your problem. If you're having issues on 80M, you'll need at least 13 turns of the RG6 through a single #31 toroid to make a dent in the common mode current. From kh at kh-translation.dk Thu May 19 09:59:08 2016 From: kh at kh-translation.dk (Kjeld Holm) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 15:59:08 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3S option request Message-ID: <00a101d1b1d6$9cf78580$d6e69080$@kh-translation.dk> Dear Elecraft Two questions from a very satisfied user of K3. Would it be possible to save the AF setting for each VFO (A resp. B)? Reason for asking: I am nearly always controlling my K3 from HRD with the physical AF knobs at zero. Often I am using a digital mode (JT65) on the one VFO and CW on the other VFO. As my setup can use JT65 on VFO A only I will have to switch between the two VFOs with A/B - and I would like not to hear the sounds of JT65 when switching from a weak CW station back to JT65. And one more thing. Again due to doing an A/B. Would it be possible to save the RF settings for each VFO? And even show the RF setting in the display during receive? I do know that my wishes are unusual. But there are so many other exceptional excellent features in the K3 - so why not make it even more excellent. Of course all should be made in firmware. Vy 73 de OZ1CCM, Kjeld From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Thu May 19 10:47:59 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 07:47:59 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI and Direct tv or Dish network In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <573DD21F.7070708@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Thu,5/19/2016 6:41 AM, Warren Merkel wrote: > Thanks for the note Jim, > > However I've already got multiple passes of the OCF Feedline fed through > a stack of five 2.4" #31 donuts, per your very own, excellent > RFI-Ham.pdf article. Picture on my QRZ page. > https://www.qrz.com/db/KD4Z But that choke is in the wrong place -- to kill feedline current, it must be at the FEEDPOINT, up in the air where the feedline connects to the horizontal part of the antenna. Remember -- this is not DC, it is RF, and the feedline between the feedpoint and the choke is part of the antenna. All you have done is make current small at the location of the choke, but because the feedline is part of the antenna, current will vary along it following the laws of physics that determine how antennas work. To understand this, think of an ordinary resonant center-fed dipole. Current is near zero at the ends (it's an open circuit, with only capacitive coupling to space), and peaks at the center (because the center is a quarter wavelength from the end point). The same thing is happening with your feedline -- common mode current is near zero at the choke (you've forced that with the choke) and increases along the line toward the feedpoint. The problem with antennas fed with open wire line is that it is simply not practical to choke them at the feedpoint. OCF antennas have the additional problem that the off-center feed makes them VERY unbalanced, which creates a lot of common mode current on the feedline. This doesn't prevent them from working as antennas, but it does put a lot of RF in the shack and the feedline can also receive a lot of noise (if there is any around it). > The RG6 has a stack of three donuts with a large number (didn't count) > of turns, located at the demark point to the house. I guess I could add > another set and spread out the Z over frequency a bit more. Spreading Z over frequency depends on the frequency range where transmitting causes problems. > I believe I need to look for other entry points to the entertainment > system as a whole, as the DirecTV DVR is network connected and of > course, connected to an AV receiver. Lots of points of entry to squelch. I don't remember seeing a description of the symptoms of your problem. I would expect that interference to the DirectTV unit would be indicated by "breakup" -- a failure to decode, or interruptions in the decoding of the signal. If that isn't happening, but you're hearing detected audio or clicks, I'd suspect gear in the entertainment system and work on choking cables connected to it. But never rule out the possibility that there can be multiple points of ingress to that system. 73, Jim K9YC > > Warren, KD4Z > > On 5/18/2016 8:29 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > > Your antenna, an off-center-fed Windom, is notorious for generating > > common mode current on the feedline, and there's no way to choke it > effectively to kill that current. So what you're calling a feedline > Mother Nature calls part of the antenna. THAT'S a primary cause of your > problem. > > If you're having issues on 80M, you'll need at least 13 turns of the RG6 > through a single #31 toroid to make a dent in the common mode current. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jim at audiosystemsgroup.com > From va3ma at me.com Thu May 19 10:50:14 2016 From: va3ma at me.com (Dan - VA3MA) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 10:50:14 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 stable enough for JT9 ?? Message-ID: Any intelligence on narrow Digit modes? Dan VA3MA From acsewell at gmail.com Thu May 19 11:00:14 2016 From: acsewell at gmail.com (Alan Sewell N5NA) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 10:00:14 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Leaked 9 Years Ago! Message-ID: <573DD4FE.5050102@gmail.com> I don't know what the big deal is about the KX2. It was leaked in this thread 9 years ago! 73, Alan N5NA From pubx1 at af2z.net Thu May 19 11:05:18 2016 From: pubx1 at af2z.net (Drew AF2Z) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 11:05:18 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors In-Reply-To: <79ECFE13-C270-41F9-B7A8-B7751426A8FF@comcast.net> References: <79ECFE13-C270-41F9-B7A8-B7751426A8FF@comcast.net> Message-ID: <573DD62E.2090300@af2z.net> It was an 83-1sp I recently bought that had defective threading. Let's face it: the name brand products of the past are not what they used to be, quality-wise. (Some others I will never buy again: Grundig, Levis, Herman boots...) Mental note to self regarding PL-259's-- check for defective threading before soldering connector to cable. 73, Drew AF2Z On 05/19/16 09:32, Ronnie Hull wrote: > Type N connectors are great! I just don't see where is any gain to using them on HF! They will make NO difference on either end of your QSO. > Most of the PL259's I see for sale today are crap. I'm a professional in the communications industry so I use both styles on a Dailey basis > The 83-1SP's as sold by amphenol today are not anywhere near as good as they used to be. The silver coating on them doesn't take solder as easily as they once did! > Glad I have plenty of the old ones! > > Ronnie w5sum > > Sent from Ronnie's IPhone > > From k9jri at mac.com Thu May 19 11:06:28 2016 From: k9jri at mac.com (Michael Blake) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 11:06:28 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 with KX3 Message-ID: Which data connection(s) do I use to control the band/frequency settings on the KAT500 when the transceiver is a KX3? The amplifier is a low drive modified ALS-600 which seems like a straight forward keying connection but I am not sure about the data connection from the KX3?s E980232 "Cable Adapter 6? RCA & 3.5mm?. Stated differently which interconnecting cables do I need to order to cause the KAT500 to frequency track the KX3? Michael Blake k9jri at mac.com From jimfinan at att.net Thu May 19 11:10:10 2016 From: jimfinan at att.net (Jim Finan) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 11:10:10 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2? In-Reply-To: <201605190821.u4J8KxdN030278@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201605190821.u4J8KxdN030278@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <20160519151010.5853265.76619.38896@att.net> Up on Order page with a link to the spec sheet.? Didn't see it listed yet in 'Order Status'. Jim? Jim?Finan AB4AC? Sent?from?my?BlackBerry?10?smartphone. ? Original Message ? From: Edward R Cole Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 4:22 AM To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New KX2? Guess if it is unveiled at Dayton - more excitement! Quick look-over and doesn't appear to replace my KX3 which has more to offer me. I don't do SOTA so don't need super-small. Will enjoy reading about it once details are published. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jimfinan at att.net From ae5x at juno.com Thu May 19 11:10:51 2016 From: ae5x at juno.com (ae5x at juno.com) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 15:10:51 GMT Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on the way... Message-ID: <20160519.101051.4877.0@webmail09.vgs.untd.com> Orders just opened on Elecraft's website and I now have a KX2 with auto-tuner on the way. John AE5X http://ae5x.blogspot.com/2016/05/i-have-kx2-on-way.html ____________________________________________________________ ABP Tactical This Pen Could Save Your Life http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/573dd7a55f09057a475a8st03vuc From repair at willcoele.com Thu May 19 11:14:56 2016 From: repair at willcoele.com (wa9fvp) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 08:14:56 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Dayton Message-ID: <1463670896694-7617618.post@n2.nabble.com> Anything new @ Dayton? ----- Jack WA9FVP Sent from my TRS-80 :-) -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Dayton-tp7617618.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Thu May 19 11:19:17 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 08:19:17 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors In-Reply-To: <573DD62E.2090300@af2z.net> References: <79ECFE13-C270-41F9-B7A8-B7751426A8FF@comcast.net> <573DD62E.2090300@af2z.net> Message-ID: <573DD975.9040504@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Thu,5/19/2016 8:05 AM, Drew AF2Z wrote: > It was an 83-1sp I recently bought that had defective threading. I've seen this as well in perhaps 1% or less of the Amphenol 83-1SPs that I've bought and installed. The symptom is that the height of the thread is shorter than it should be, and you can't screw it onto a mating connector. I first saw this 2-3 years ago, and haven't seen it since. Perhaps QC caught it. 73, Jim K9YC From pg at fivesevenfive.org Thu May 19 11:19:22 2016 From: pg at fivesevenfive.org (Phil Genera) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 11:19:22 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2? In-Reply-To: <20160519151010.5853265.76619.38896@att.net> References: <201605190821.u4J8KxdN030278@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> <20160519151010.5853265.76619.38896@att.net> Message-ID: Manual: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX2%20owner's%20man%20A4.pdf FAQ: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX2%20FAQ%20v-1-1a.pdf -- Phil On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Jim Finan wrote: > Up on Order page with a link to the spec sheet. > > Didn't see it listed yet in 'Order Status'. > > Jim > > Jim Finan > AB4AC > > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. > Original Message > From: Edward R Cole > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 4:22 AM > To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New KX2? > > Guess if it is unveiled at Dayton - more excitement! > > Quick look-over and doesn't appear to replace my KX3 which has more > to offer me. I don't do SOTA so don't need super-small. Will enjoy > reading about it once details are published. > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > "Kits made by KL7UW" > Dubus Mag business: > dubususa at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jimfinan at att.net > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to pg at fivesevenfive.org > From w2kj at bellsouth.net Thu May 19 11:39:47 2016 From: w2kj at bellsouth.net (Joe W2KJ) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 11:39:47 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors In-Reply-To: <573DD62E.2090300@af2z.net> References: <79ECFE13-C270-41F9-B7A8-B7751426A8FF@comcast.net> <573DD62E.2090300@af2z.net> Message-ID: <3859ED55-8BE2-4444-B739-8127C565DEAC@bellsouth.net> Believe I read somewhere that Amphenol connectors are being made in Mexico...not sure how long ago that got started. 73, Joe W2KJ I QRP, therefore I am On May 19, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Drew AF2Z wrote: > It was an 83-1sp I recently bought that had defective threading. Let's face it: the name brand products of the past are not what they used to be, quality-wise. (Some others I will never buy again: Grundig, Levis, Herman boots...) > > Mental note to self regarding PL-259's-- check for defective threading before soldering connector to cable. > > > > 73, > Drew > AF2Z > > > > On 05/19/16 09:32, Ronnie Hull wrote: >> Type N connectors are great! I just don't see where is any gain to using them on HF! They will make NO difference on either end of your QSO. >> Most of the PL259's I see for sale today are crap. I'm a professional in the communications industry so I use both styles on a Dailey basis >> The 83-1SP's as sold by amphenol today are not anywhere near as good as they used to be. The silver coating on them doesn't take solder as easily as they once did! >> Glad I have plenty of the old ones! >> >> Ronnie w5sum >> >> Sent from Ronnie's IPhone >> >> > > > ______________________________________________________________ From pubx1 at af2z.net Thu May 19 11:42:55 2016 From: pubx1 at af2z.net (Drew AF2Z) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 11:42:55 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on the way... In-Reply-To: <20160519.101051.4877.0@webmail09.vgs.untd.com> References: <20160519.101051.4877.0@webmail09.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <573DDEFF.4000502@af2z.net> Real nifty! Makes one wish one did camping or mountain climbing or something that would require toting a little rig around... I'll be in line for a K4 if it comes out. I'm just as happy that it isn't this year; there is still a lot of use left in the old K3... 73, Drew AF2Z On 05/19/16 11:10, ae5x at juno.com wrote: > Orders just opened on Elecraft's website and I now have a KX2 with auto-tuner on the way. > > John AE5X > http://ae5x.blogspot.com/2016/05/i-have-kx2-on-way.html > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > From egrimseid at gmail.com Thu May 19 11:47:05 2016 From: egrimseid at gmail.com (Erlend Grimseid) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 17:47:05 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2? In-Reply-To: References: <201605190821.u4J8KxdN030278@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> <20160519151010.5853265.76619.38896@att.net> Message-ID: Looks cool. What I'm really curious about is if it is more "rugged " than the kx3. La4tta Erlend 19. mai 2016 17:23 skrev "Phil Genera" : > Manual: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX2%20owner's%20man%20A4.pdf > FAQ: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX2%20FAQ%20v-1-1a.pdf > > -- > Phil > > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Jim Finan wrote: > > > Up on Order page with a link to the spec sheet. > > > > Didn't see it listed yet in 'Order Status'. > > > > Jim > > > > Jim Finan > > AB4AC > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. > > Original Message > > From: Edward R Cole > > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 4:22 AM > > To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New KX2? > > > > Guess if it is unveiled at Dayton - more excitement! > > > > Quick look-over and doesn't appear to replace my KX3 which has more > > to offer me. I don't do SOTA so don't need super-small. Will enjoy > > reading about it once details are published. > > > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > > http://www.kl7uw.com > > "Kits made by KL7UW" > > Dubus Mag business: > > dubususa at gmail.com > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to jimfinan at att.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to pg at fivesevenfive.org > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to egrimseid at gmail.com > From jermo at carolinaheli.com Thu May 19 11:54:46 2016 From: jermo at carolinaheli.com (Jerry Moore) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 11:54:46 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [ KX2] KXBT2 Charger Message-ID: <026d01d1b1e6$c4f24060$4ed6c120$@carolinaheli.com> KXBT2 Charger: Can the charger be connected to a DC power source without an inverter to charge the KXBT2 Li-Ion battery pack? Considering the intended POU is pedestrian I can see a great need/use for solar to power the charger/recharge the battery pack. Depending upon circuit design it should be doable. KXBT2 Charger: Can the charger be used to power the KX2 Radio in the absence of a battery pack? Might be a good feature to be able to concurrently recharge the battery while also powering the radio. Remember the advertised use is pedestrian style. I'm very intrigued by the KX2 and have a specific use in mind..e.g. camping with no access or availability of power mains. While using an inverter via solar is an option the losses due to conversion efficiencies become too great to be worthwhile in my view. Thanks in advance. Jerry Moore, AE4PB K3S owner. From hs0zed at gmail.com Thu May 19 12:03:41 2016 From: hs0zed at gmail.com (Martin Sole) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 19:03:41 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 no assembly? Message-ID: <573DE3DD.2050508@gmail.com> Looks like only factory fully assembled. Another first for Elecraft? From ppauly at gmail.com Thu May 19 12:16:42 2016 From: ppauly at gmail.com (Peter Pauly) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 12:16:42 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [ KX2] KXBT2 Charger In-Reply-To: <026d01d1b1e6$c4f24060$4ed6c120$@carolinaheli.com> References: <026d01d1b1e6$c4f24060$4ed6c120$@carolinaheli.com> Message-ID: I feel kind of stupid buying a charger when I have a very expensive bench power supply. Does that battery pack have a balancing circuit and over voltage protection? On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Jerry Moore wrote: > KXBT2 Charger: Can the charger be connected to a DC power source without an > inverter to charge the KXBT2 Li-Ion battery pack? Considering the intended > POU is pedestrian I can see a great need/use for solar to power the > charger/recharge the battery pack. Depending upon circuit design it should > be doable. > > KXBT2 Charger: Can the charger be used to power the KX2 Radio in the > absence > of a battery pack? Might be a good feature to be able to concurrently > recharge the battery while also powering the radio. Remember the advertised > use is pedestrian style. > > > > > > I'm very intrigued by the KX2 and have a specific use in mind..e.g. camping > with no access or availability of power mains. While using an inverter via > solar is an option the losses due to conversion efficiencies become too > great to be worthwhile in my view. > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Jerry Moore, AE4PB > > K3S owner. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ppauly at gmail.com > From nr4c at widomaker.com Thu May 19 12:24:45 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 12:24:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 with KX3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <74148571-A19A-481E-9B6E-9064A6E643C4@widomaker.com> I believe it will sense RF on a dit or two. So only the coax is required. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 19, 2016, at 11:06 AM, Michael Blake wrote: > > Which data connection(s) do I use to control the band/frequency settings on the KAT500 when the transceiver is a KX3? The amplifier is a low drive modified ALS-600 which seems like a straight forward keying connection but I am not sure about the data connection from the KX3?s E980232 "Cable Adapter 6? RCA & 3.5mm?. > > Stated differently which interconnecting cables do I need to order to cause the KAT500 to frequency track the KX3? > > Michael Blake > k9jri at mac.com > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From ppauly at gmail.com Thu May 19 12:26:09 2016 From: ppauly at gmail.com (Peter Pauly) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 12:26:09 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3S option request In-Reply-To: <00a101d1b1d6$9cf78580$d6e69080$@kh-translation.dk> References: <00a101d1b1d6$9cf78580$d6e69080$@kh-translation.dk> Message-ID: Related request - can we please save the filter bandwidth per mode? On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Kjeld Holm wrote: > Dear Elecraft > > Two questions from a very satisfied user of K3. > > Would it be possible to save the AF setting for each VFO (A resp. B)? > Reason for asking: I am nearly always controlling my K3 from HRD with the > physical AF knobs at zero. Often I am using a digital mode (JT65) on the > one > VFO and CW on the other VFO. As my setup can use JT65 on VFO A only I will > have to switch between the two VFOs with A/B - and I would like not to hear > the sounds of JT65 when switching from a weak CW station back to JT65. > > And one more thing. Again due to doing an A/B. Would it be possible to save > the RF settings for each VFO? And even show the RF setting in the display > during receive? > > I do know that my wishes are unusual. But there are so many other > exceptional excellent features in the K3 - so why not make it even more > excellent. Of course all should be made in firmware. > > Vy 73 de OZ1CCM, Kjeld > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ppauly at gmail.com > From k9jri at mac.com Thu May 19 12:31:44 2016 From: k9jri at mac.com (Michael Blake) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 12:31:44 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 with KX3 In-Reply-To: <74148571-A19A-481E-9B6E-9064A6E643C4@widomaker.com> References: <74148571-A19A-481E-9B6E-9064A6E643C4@widomaker.com> Message-ID: <927F5C11-5D84-4B62-BBAA-7529C57E2DCE@mac.com> Yes Bill, I believe that is correct but I want it to band follow so that the solution will be set to the last correct solution for the current frequency when only receiving. It follows the K3/KPA500 and the the question is ?how do I implement this with the KX3? Michael Blake > On May 19, 2016, at 12:24 PM, Nr4c wrote: > > I believe it will sense RF on a dit or two. So only the coax is required. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On May 19, 2016, at 11:06 AM, Michael Blake wrote: >> >> Which data connection(s) do I use to control the band/frequency settings on the KAT500 when the transceiver is a KX3? The amplifier is a low drive modified ALS-600 which seems like a straight forward keying connection but I am not sure about the data connection from the KX3?s E980232 "Cable Adapter 6? RCA & 3.5mm?. >> >> Stated differently which interconnecting cables do I need to order to cause the KAT500 to frequency track the KX3? >> >> Michael Blake >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com > From wunder at wunderwood.org Thu May 19 12:41:13 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 09:41:13 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2? In-Reply-To: References: <201605190821.u4J8KxdN030278@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> <20160519151010.5853265.76619.38896@att.net> Message-ID: <038B336D-ACB8-4EE3-8152-D98A195EB5E6@wunderwood.org> There is some sort of myth about the KX3 not being rugged. It was designed for trail use. With around 10,000 sold, I haven?t heard any reports of problems with ruggedness. My KX3 has fallen hard enough to bend the BNC connector and it works fine. I would expect the KX2 to be slightly more rugged because the boards are smaller. That?s about it. Of course, the SideKX panels provide extra protection for the knobs. That?s handy. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On May 19, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Erlend Grimseid wrote: > > Looks cool. What I'm really curious about is if it is more "rugged " than > the kx3. > > La4tta > Erlend > 19. mai 2016 17:23 skrev "Phil Genera" : > >> Manual: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX2%20owner's%20man%20A4.pdf >> FAQ: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX2%20FAQ%20v-1-1a.pdf >> >> -- >> Phil >> >> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Jim Finan wrote: >> >>> Up on Order page with a link to the spec sheet. >>> >>> Didn't see it listed yet in 'Order Status'. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> Jim Finan >>> AB4AC >>> >>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. >>> Original Message >>> From: Edward R Cole >>> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 4:22 AM >>> To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New KX2? >>> >>> Guess if it is unveiled at Dayton - more excitement! >>> >>> Quick look-over and doesn't appear to replace my KX3 which has more >>> to offer me. I don't do SOTA so don't need super-small. Will enjoy >>> reading about it once details are published. >>> >>> 73, Ed - KL7UW >>> http://www.kl7uw.com >>> "Kits made by KL7UW" >>> Dubus Mag business: >>> dubususa at gmail.com >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to jimfinan at att.net >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to pg at fivesevenfive.org >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to egrimseid at gmail.com >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com Thu May 19 13:51:23 2016 From: KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 10:51:23 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Dayton In-Reply-To: <1463670896694-7617618.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1463670896694-7617618.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <82a8dc7d-cbab-052d-3916-506aac3080ef@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Besides the exciting KX2? On 5/19/2016 8:14 AM, wa9fvp wrote: > Anything new @ Dayton? > From wk6i.jeff at gmail.com Thu May 19 14:02:03 2016 From: wk6i.jeff at gmail.com (Jeff Stai) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 11:02:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Dayton In-Reply-To: <82a8dc7d-cbab-052d-3916-506aac3080ef@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> References: <1463670896694-7617618.post@n2.nabble.com> <82a8dc7d-cbab-052d-3916-506aac3080ef@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Message-ID: All we got at Visalia was a knob. ;) 73 jeff wk6i On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 10:51 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT < KX3 at coldrockshotbrooms.com> wrote: > Besides the exciting KX2? > > On 5/19/2016 8:14 AM, wa9fvp wrote: > >> Anything new @ Dayton? >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wk6i.jeff at gmail.com > -- Jeff Stai ~ wk6i.jeff at gmail.com Twisted Oak Winery ~ http://www.twistedoak.com/ Facebook ~ http://www.facebook.com/twistedoak From no9e at arrl.net Thu May 19 14:10:36 2016 From: no9e at arrl.net (Ignacy) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 11:10:36 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] [ KX2] KXBT2 Charger In-Reply-To: References: <026d01d1b1e6$c4f24060$4ed6c120$@carolinaheli.com> Message-ID: <1463681436879-7617632.post@n2.nabble.com> I charged my Li-ion batteries by a voltage regulator LM317 set to 12.6V. Never a problem and the battery lasted but the regulator needs a sink. It would be really convenient to be able to charge (even slower) without removing the battery. It would really be nice to add internal Li-Ion option to KX3. Would be one item less to attach. Ignacy, NO9E -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX2-KXBT2-Charger-tp7617624p7617632.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From alsopb at comcast.net Thu May 19 14:14:09 2016 From: alsopb at comcast.net (brian) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 18:14:09 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] New 200 Hz K3 filter Message-ID: <573E0271.7010908@comcast.net> Was there ever a response to the question: Is there enough IF gain to compensate for the loss of this filter? If one used spectrogram to try and set filter gains, there barely was enough gain with the old 200Hz filter to achieve same peak audio output within 1db of a carrier relative to the stock 2.7 KHz filter. The new 200 Hz filter has more poles and presumably more loss. 73 de Brian/K3KO From joel.b.black at gmail.com Thu May 19 14:31:02 2016 From: joel.b.black at gmail.com (Joel Black) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 13:31:02 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] [K3/P3] OT - For Sale Message-ID: <3A20AD3B-436C-4C5E-9AE7-DDB653EE0B52@gmail.com> Please respond directly to me to keep list FOD down. After much contemplation and my operating habits changing, I have decided to sell my K3/P3 combo (I am keeping my KX3 and will upgrade to the PX3 and, later, the KXPA100). Here?s what I have: K3 S/N: 59xx 100W kit (bought in November 2011) KXV3A KFL3A-500 x2 (matched) KFL3A-2.7k x2 (matched) KRX3 KBPF3 KTCXO3-1 KAT3 MH2 Asking $2700 +shipping &insurance P3 S/N: 50x P3TXMON w/ 200W HF Directional Coupler Asking $700 +shipping & Insurance Would prefer to sell as a package. Will combine for $3300 +shipping & insurance and will consider these offers first. I also have all the manuals and a Fred Cady K3 printed (mostly color as my printer was running out of ink but still quite readable) book from 2011. For now, I?d much rather ship CONUS. 73, Joel - W4JBB From n6kr at elecraft.com Thu May 19 14:37:24 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 13:37:24 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] New 200 Hz K3 filter In-Reply-To: <573E0271.7010908@comcast.net> References: <573E0271.7010908@comcast.net> Message-ID: <96681D03-C587-40D5-A817-E42A8B7B30EE@elecraft.com> It's about the same as the 5-pole filter. Wayne N6KR ---- http://www.elecraft.com > On May 19, 2016, at 1:14 PM, brian wrote: > > Was there ever a response to the question: > Is there enough IF gain to compensate for the loss of this filter? > > If one used spectrogram to try and set filter gains, there barely was enough gain with the old 200Hz filter to achieve same peak audio output within 1db of a carrier relative to the stock 2.7 KHz filter. > > The new 200 Hz filter has more poles and presumably more loss. > > 73 de Brian/K3KO > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From ron at cobi.biz Thu May 19 15:39:25 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 12:39:25 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2? In-Reply-To: References: <201605190821.u4J8KxdN030278@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> <20160519151010.5853265.76619.38896@att.net> Message-ID: <002501d1b206$27010060$75030120$@biz> Not sure what you mean by "rugged". It's a very similar case to the KX3, just smaller. Opens clamshell-like just like the KX3 only with two thumbscrews instead of four. Not waterproof, but like the KX3 its pretty well "shockproof" when packed with camping gear or sitting on a rock for an operating desk somewhere. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Erlend Grimseid Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 8:47 AM Cc: Elecraft List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New KX2? Looks cool. What I'm really curious about is if it is more "rugged " than the kx3. La4tta Erlend 19. mai 2016 17:23 skrev "Phil Genera" : > Manual: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX2%20owner's%20man%20A4.pdf > FAQ: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX2%20FAQ%20v-1-1a.pdf > > -- > Phil > > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Jim Finan wrote: > > > Up on Order page with a link to the spec sheet. > > > > Didn't see it listed yet in 'Order Status'. > > > > Jim > > > > Jim Finan > > AB4AC > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. > > Original Message > > From: Edward R Cole > > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 4:22 AM > > To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New KX2? > > > > Guess if it is unveiled at Dayton - more excitement! > > > > Quick look-over and doesn't appear to replace my KX3 which has more > > to offer me. I don't do SOTA so don't need super-small. Will enjoy > > reading about it once details are published. > > > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > > http://www.kl7uw.com > > "Kits made by KL7UW" > > Dubus Mag business: > > dubususa at gmail.com > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this > > email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > > jimfinan at att.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this > > email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > > pg at fivesevenfive.org > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > egrimseid at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at cobi.biz From wb8yqj at yahoo.com Thu May 19 15:42:37 2016 From: wb8yqj at yahoo.com (Don Rasmussen) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 19:42:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2 - Field Test Photos References: <673165608.6098157.1463686957268.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <673165608.6098157.1463686957268.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Nice photos compliments of Steve WG0AT and Wayne N6KR... http://www.zerobeat.net/wb8yqj/ft1.jpg http://www.zerobeat.net/wb8yqj/ft2.jpg http://www.zerobeat.net/wb8yqj/ft3.jpg Great price point and KX2 will be available at Dayton and via online orders.? de Don wb8yqj From n6kr at elecraft.com Thu May 19 15:47:01 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 14:47:01 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Announcing the KX2 80-10 m, SSB/CW/Data transceiver Message-ID: <063EB36B-7049-411D-BD1C-5E2E5F1DD2DF@elecraft.com> Introducing the Elecraft KX2 transceiver -- the newest member of our compact KX Line. The KX2 has features very similar to the KX3, at about half the size and weight. It fits easily in a jacket pocket. It can even be used hand-held, with a built-in mic to facilitate HT-style operation. Despite its small size (1.5 x 2.8 x 5.8") and light weight (13 oz.), the KX2 can be configured as a complete HF station, with an internal 2.6 Ah Li-ion battery, wide-range ATU, and attached CW keyer paddle. This greatly reduces the amount of gear and cables needed for field outings. For home and mobile use, the KX2 works with our KXPA100 100 watt amplifier. The KX2 can transmit in SSB, CW, and data modes at up to 10 watts. This power level, combined with adjustable speech compression, yields a truly effective SSB radio that fits in the palm of your hand. True SDR (software-defined radio) technology, with 32-bit I.F. DSP., provides features you'd expect to find only in a desktop rig: stereo dual watch, noise blanking, noise reduction, auto-notch, 8-band RX/TX EQ, a digital voice recorder with two transmit messages, and PSK31/PSK63/RTTY text decode/display. You can even use a keyer paddle to transmit in these data modes -- no PC required. The KX2 covers 80-10 meters (9 bands), maximizing flexibility for field ops, SOTA, micro-DXpeditions, and ultralight hiking/backpacking. Two padded carrying case options are available (CS40 and CS60). For further details, please visit www.elecraft.com. 73, Wayne, N6KR Eric, WA6HHQ ---- http://www.elecraft.com From k3ndm at comcast.net Thu May 19 16:02:41 2016 From: k3ndm at comcast.net (Barry LaZar) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 20:02:41 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Creative Lab EMU-0202 Message-ID: I just re-installed my EMU-0202 sound card. I wanted to see if I could make it play with Windows 10 and everything else I have running, Win4K3, CW Skimmer, and HRD. I've always liked the fact that there was less "garbage" being displayed on the spectrum display. What I found it that Windows 10 picked it right up and it seems to be playing nicely. It's not clear what driver I'm using as I put a beta Windows 7 driver in when this machine had Windows 7. If the Windows 10 install kept my beta driver than I suspect it is that one that is being used. In any case, my old card works which means a $70 card will work vice a $140 card. And since my EMU-0202 is not in current production, a card may be had at even a lessor price than $70. Barry K3NDM From ron at cobi.biz Thu May 19 16:08:37 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 13:08:37 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 no assembly? In-Reply-To: <573DE3DD.2050508@gmail.com> References: <573DE3DD.2050508@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002601d1b20a$3b6cd3e0$b2467ba0$@biz> So far, but like other Elecraft rigs customers can easily add options such as the ATU. 73 Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Martin Sole Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 9:04 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 no assembly? Looks like only factory fully assembled. Another first for Elecraft? ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From n6kr at elecraft.com Thu May 19 16:13:59 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 15:13:59 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 no assembly? In-Reply-To: <573DE3DD.2050508@gmail.com> References: <573DE3DD.2050508@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5A44E039-C403-4CB6-8602-8C4238363EF9@elecraft.com> The KX2 uses state-of-the-art, high density construction techniques. We felt that some builders might have difficulty with the small hardware and connectors, so we're only offering it factory assembled. 73, Wayne N6KR ---- http://www.elecraft.com > On May 19, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Martin Sole wrote: > > Looks like only factory fully assembled. > Another first for Elecraft? > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From dick at lazyh.me Thu May 19 16:13:40 2016 From: dick at lazyh.me (dick at lazyh.me) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 15:13:40 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] For sale: KX3-4M-NOAT Message-ID: <000001d1b20a$efda8e30$cf8faa90$@lazyh.me> Hello.. Bought new 4m module for use in my KX3 on DXpedition, but could not get license, so unit never used. $225 shipped CONUS. Dick, K5AND From jimfinan at att.net Thu May 19 16:15:18 2016 From: jimfinan at att.net (Jim Finan) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 16:15:18 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 no assembly? In-Reply-To: <002601d1b20a$3b6cd3e0$b2467ba0$@biz> References: <573DE3DD.2050508@gmail.com> <002601d1b20a$3b6cd3e0$b2467ba0$@biz> Message-ID: <20160519201518.5853265.51243.38943@att.net> Speaking of assembly, is the KX2 built/assembled in the US like other Elecraft gear? Was wondering the same about the K-pod since it comes assembled also.? 73, Jim Jim?Finan AB4AC? Sent?from?my?BlackBerry?10?smartphone. ? Original Message ? From: Ron D'Eau Claire Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 4:09 PM To: 'Martin Sole'; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 no assembly? So far, but like other Elecraft rigs customers can easily add options such as the ATU. 73 Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Martin Sole Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 9:04 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 no assembly? Looks like only factory fully assembled. Another first for Elecraft? ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jimfinan at att.net From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Thu May 19 12:53:40 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Triconet_2) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 09:53:40 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3S option request In-Reply-To: References: <00a101d1b1d6$9cf78580$d6e69080$@kh-translation.dk> Message-ID: <5C7DA983-E6DA-458D-9784-22077951BEA5@triconet.org> Yes please. I thought this was already on "the list". On May 19, 2016, at 9:26 AM, Peter Pauly wrote: > Related request - can we please save the filter bandwidth per mode? > > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Kjeld Holm wrote: > >> Dear Elecraft >> >> Two questions from a very satisfied user of K3. >> >> Would it be possible to save the AF setting for each VFO (A resp. B)? >> Reason for asking: I am nearly always controlling my K3 from HRD with the >> physical AF knobs at zero. Often I am using a digital mode (JT65) on the >> one >> VFO and CW on the other VFO. As my setup can use JT65 on VFO A only I will >> have to switch between the two VFOs with A/B - and I would like not to hear >> the sounds of JT65 when switching from a weak CW station back to JT65. >> >> And one more thing. Again due to doing an A/B. Would it be possible to save >> the RF settings for each VFO? And even show the RF setting in the display >> during receive? >> >> I do know that my wishes are unusual. But there are so many other >> exceptional excellent features in the K3 - so why not make it even more >> excellent. Of course all should be made in firmware. >> >> Vy 73 de OZ1CCM, Kjeld >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ppauly at gmail.com >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wes_n7ws at triconet.org From KD8RQE at aol.com Thu May 19 16:58:06 2016 From: KD8RQE at aol.com (KD8RQE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 16:58:06 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Hamvention discounts Message-ID: <44d5d3.5ac2fcb0.446f82de@aol.com> Any advantage to ordering during the Hamvention? If so, do the same discounts apply to phone or internet orders or do you have to be physically present in Dayton to take advantage? Thanks. 73 Mike KD8RQE From n6kr at elecraft.com Thu May 19 17:21:49 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 17:21:49 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 no assembly? Message-ID: <1F3DEBA3-BB74-46C9-8DE2-5E97046F29A5@elecraft.com> Yes to both. Wayne ---- http://www.elecraft.com > On May 19, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Jim Finan wrote: > > Speaking of assembly, is the KX2 built/assembled in the US like other Elecraft gear? Was wondering the same about the K-pod since it comes assembled also. > > 73, > > Jim > > Jim Finan > AB4AC > > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. > Original Message > From: Ron D'Eau Claire > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 4:09 PM > To: 'Martin Sole'; elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 no assembly? > > So far, but like other Elecraft rigs customers can easily add options such > as the ATU. > > 73 Ron AC7AC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Martin > Sole > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 9:04 AM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 no assembly? > > Looks like only factory fully assembled. > Another first for Elecraft? > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to ron at elecraft.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jimfinan at att.net > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From droese at necg.de Thu May 19 17:29:31 2016 From: droese at necg.de (=?UTF-8?Q?Oliver_Dr=c3=b6se?=) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 23:29:31 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] Announcing the KX2 80-10 m, SSB/CW/Data transceiver In-Reply-To: <063EB36B-7049-411D-BD1C-5E2E5F1DD2DF@elecraft.com> References: <063EB36B-7049-411D-BD1C-5E2E5F1DD2DF@elecraft.com> Message-ID: Amazing news, Wayne. Allow me a couple of questions: a.) Will it support the 8 kHz IF shift as in the KX3? Otherwise probably the same trouble as with the KX3 with AM breakthrough (which is a problem here in Europe and rendered my KXFL3 useless lot's of times as I had to switch on the IF shift to get rid of the ghost signals). b.) Will the KX2 support transverter mode (display)? It would certainly make a great IF rig for VHF/UHF/microwave portable. c.) How low can you set the output? d.) It has general coverage RX, but no AM mode? Does not make sense to me. e.) No FM mode. A pity, there's quite some FM activity and would be very useful for microwave IF rig applications, too. Or is that just to distinguish the KX2 feature set from the KX3? From the videos seen it seems you did a great job with the internal speaker this time, congrats! Tnx & 73, Olli - DH8BQA Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de Am 19.05.2016 um 21:47 schrieb Wayne Burdick: > Introducing the Elecraft KX2 transceiver -- the newest member of our compact KX Line. The KX2 has features very similar to the KX3, at about half the size and weight. It fits easily in a jacket pocket. It can even be used hand-held, with a built-in mic to facilitate HT-style operation. > > Despite its small size (1.5 x 2.8 x 5.8") and light weight (13 oz.), the KX2 can be configured as a complete HF station, with an internal 2.6 Ah Li-ion battery, wide-range ATU, and attached CW keyer paddle. This greatly reduces the amount of gear and cables needed for field outings. For home and mobile use, the KX2 works with our KXPA100 100 watt amplifier. > > The KX2 can transmit in SSB, CW, and data modes at up to 10 watts. This power level, combined with adjustable speech compression, yields a truly effective SSB radio that fits in the palm of your hand. > > True SDR (software-defined radio) technology, with 32-bit I.F. DSP., provides features you'd expect to find only in a desktop rig: stereo dual watch, noise blanking, noise reduction, auto-notch, 8-band RX/TX EQ, a digital voice recorder with two transmit messages, and PSK31/PSK63/RTTY text decode/display. You can even use a keyer paddle to transmit in these data modes -- no PC required. > > The KX2 covers 80-10 meters (9 bands), maximizing flexibility for field ops, SOTA, micro-DXpeditions, and ultralight hiking/backpacking. Two padded carrying case options are available (CS40 and CS60). > > For further details, please visit www.elecraft.com. > > 73, > Wayne, N6KR > Eric, WA6HHQ > > > ---- > http://www.elecraft.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to droese at necg.de > From kk5f at earthlink.net Thu May 19 17:36:23 2016 From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 16:36:23 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Elecraft] Announcing the KX2 80-10 m, SSB/CW/Data transceiver Message-ID: <9498759.1463693783877.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Wayne wrote: > Introducing the Elecraft KX2 transceiver -- the newest member of our compact > KX Line. > ... > For further details, please visit www.elecraft.com. But...some useful links are still hidden! Phil Genera posted these **most** helpful URLs: > Manual: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX2%20owner's%20man%20A4.pdf > FAQ: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX2%20FAQ%20v-1-1a.pdf However, without Phil's help, there appears to be no links at the Elecraft website to these two important pages. Perhaps there are others pages there right now. I have some questions: 1. Does the KX2 and KXAT2 have a MARS transmit firmware mod available to authorized users? 2. Can the KX2 receive in *real* AM mode? 3. Is the real-time clock in the KXIO2 backed up by a coin cell, or must the RTC be reset following any power interruption if the KXBT2 is not installed? 4. Will the instruction sheets for the KX2 accessories soon be available for download? 5. Will the KX2 system schematic and other technical information not found in the Owner's Manual soon be available for download? Very impressive! This appears to be a "must have" system for outdoor hikers and campers who are hams. I see a new QRP rig in my near future. 73, Mike / KK5F From W4RM at AOL.COM Thu May 19 17:58:42 2016 From: W4RM at AOL.COM (Bill OMara) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 17:58:42 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Panadapters for a MM station using 4 K3s Message-ID: <051d01d1b219$9bec0d80$d3c42880$@AOL.COM> I'm looking for some input on the best and most cost effective way to add panadapters to my MM contest station with four K3's. I currently have one of the four station outfitted with a LP PAN2 and NaP3 SW and it works fine with the internal sound card with 48Khz bandwidth. I would like to find a standard solution at a reasonable price (Per Station) for all stations. I just want to hear some ideas so I don't go down the wrong road X 4. Thanks for your input in advance. 73 Bill W4RM From droese at necg.de Thu May 19 18:07:40 2016 From: droese at necg.de (=?UTF-8?Q?Oliver_Dr=c3=b6se?=) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 00:07:40 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] Announcing the KX2 80-10 m, SSB/CW/Data transceiver In-Reply-To: References: <063EB36B-7049-411D-BD1C-5E2E5F1DD2DF@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <6b2fbb83-f6d7-dde0-12a3-16fded5124c6@necg.de> To answer some of my own questions ... (just found the online manual): a.) Seems not. :-( b.) Yes. c.) Still unanswered. Not meaning 0 but real measurements (important for transverter use). d.) Listening to AM signals in SSB mode only. Hmm ... e.) No FM. Still a pity as just a firmware option ... 73, Olli - DH8BQA Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de Am 19.05.2016 um 23:29 schrieb Oliver Dr?se: > Amazing news, Wayne. Allow me a couple of questions: > > a.) Will it support the 8 kHz IF shift as in the KX3? Otherwise > probably the same trouble as with the KX3 with AM breakthrough (which > is a problem here in Europe and rendered my KXFL3 useless lot's of > times as I had to switch on the IF shift to get rid of the ghost > signals). > > b.) Will the KX2 support transverter mode (display)? It would > certainly make a great IF rig for VHF/UHF/microwave portable. > > c.) How low can you set the output? > > d.) It has general coverage RX, but no AM mode? Does not make sense to > me. > > e.) No FM mode. A pity, there's quite some FM activity and would be > very useful for microwave IF rig applications, too. Or is that just to > distinguish the KX2 feature set from the KX3? > > From the videos seen it seems you did a great job with the internal > speaker this time, congrats! > > Tnx & 73, Olli - DH8BQA > > Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de > > > Am 19.05.2016 um 21:47 schrieb Wayne Burdick: >> Introducing the Elecraft KX2 transceiver -- the newest member of our >> compact KX Line. The KX2 has features very similar to the KX3, at >> about half the size and weight. It fits easily in a jacket pocket. It >> can even be used hand-held, with a built-in mic to facilitate >> HT-style operation. >> >> Despite its small size (1.5 x 2.8 x 5.8") and light weight (13 oz.), >> the KX2 can be configured as a complete HF station, with an internal >> 2.6 Ah Li-ion battery, wide-range ATU, and attached CW keyer paddle. >> This greatly reduces the amount of gear and cables needed for field >> outings. For home and mobile use, the KX2 works with our KXPA100 100 >> watt amplifier. >> >> The KX2 can transmit in SSB, CW, and data modes at up to 10 watts. >> This power level, combined with adjustable speech compression, yields >> a truly effective SSB radio that fits in the palm of your hand. >> >> True SDR (software-defined radio) technology, with 32-bit I.F. DSP., >> provides features you'd expect to find only in a desktop rig: stereo >> dual watch, noise blanking, noise reduction, auto-notch, 8-band RX/TX >> EQ, a digital voice recorder with two transmit messages, and >> PSK31/PSK63/RTTY text decode/display. You can even use a keyer paddle >> to transmit in these data modes -- no PC required. >> >> The KX2 covers 80-10 meters (9 bands), maximizing flexibility for >> field ops, SOTA, micro-DXpeditions, and ultralight >> hiking/backpacking. Two padded carrying case options are available >> (CS40 and CS60). >> >> For further details, please visit www.elecraft.com. >> >> 73, >> Wayne, N6KR >> Eric, WA6HHQ >> >> >> ---- >> http://www.elecraft.com >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to droese at necg.de >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to droese at necg.de > From droese at necg.de Thu May 19 18:11:15 2016 From: droese at necg.de (=?UTF-8?Q?Oliver_Dr=c3=b6se?=) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 00:11:15 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] Announcing the KX2 80-10 m, SSB/CW/Data transceiver In-Reply-To: <9498759.1463693783877.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <9498759.1463693783877.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <25f9a9ca-0478-7ab8-9811-657f407a2d16@necg.de> Hi Mike, manual, FAQs, etc. are now quite prominently on Elecraft's main page. ;-) To answer some of your questions (per the manual): 2. No. 3. Backed up by 2 "super cap" holding data for about 2 hours which should be enough to recharge the battery pack. 73, Olli - DH8BQA Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de Am 19.05.2016 um 23:36 schrieb Mike Morrow: > Wayne wrote: > >> Introducing the Elecraft KX2 transceiver -- the newest member of our compact >> KX Line. >> ... >> For further details, please visit www.elecraft.com. > But...some useful links are still hidden! Phil Genera posted these **most** helpful URLs: > >> Manual: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX2%20owner's%20man%20A4.pdf >> FAQ: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX2%20FAQ%20v-1-1a.pdf > However, without Phil's help, there appears to be no links at the Elecraft website to these two important pages. Perhaps there are others pages there right now. > > I have some questions: > > 1. Does the KX2 and KXAT2 have a MARS transmit firmware mod available to authorized users? > > 2. Can the KX2 receive in *real* AM mode? > > 3. Is the real-time clock in the KXIO2 backed up by a coin cell, or must the RTC be reset following any power interruption if the KXBT2 is not installed? > > 4. Will the instruction sheets for the KX2 accessories soon be available for download? > > 5. Will the KX2 system schematic and other technical information not found in the Owner's Manual soon be available for download? > > Very impressive! This appears to be a "must have" system for outdoor hikers and campers who are hams. I see a new QRP rig in my near future. > > 73, > Mike / KK5F > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to droese at necg.de > From KD8RQE at aol.com Thu May 19 18:16:27 2016 From: KD8RQE at aol.com (KD8RQE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 18:16:27 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Announcing the KX2 80-10 m, SSB/CW/Data transceiver Message-ID: <723465.2c1bb1b.446f953b@aol.com> Will the Begali "Adventure" paddles fit the KX2 as well as the KX3? Mike KD8RQE In a message dated 5/19/2016 5:37:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, n6kr at elecraft.com writes: Introducing the Elecraft KX2 transceiver -- the newest member of our compact KX Line. The KX2 has features very similar to the KX3, at about half the size and weight. It fits easily in a jacket pocket. It can even be used hand-held, with a built-in mic to facilitate HT-style operation. Despite its small size (1.5 x 2.8 x 5.8") and light weight (13 oz.), the KX2 can be configured as a complete HF station, with an internal 2.6 Ah Li-ion battery, wide-range ATU, and attached CW keyer paddle. This greatly reduces the amount of gear and cables needed for field outings. For home and mobile use, the KX2 works with our KXPA100 100 watt amplifier. The KX2 can transmit in SSB, CW, and data modes at up to 10 watts. This power level, combined with adjustable speech compression, yields a truly effective SSB radio that fits in the palm of your hand. True SDR (software-defined radio) technology, with 32-bit I.F. DSP., provides features you'd expect to find only in a desktop rig: stereo dual watch, noise blanking, noise reduction, auto-notch, 8-band RX/TX EQ, a digital voice recorder with two transmit messages, and PSK31/PSK63/RTTY text decode/display. You can even use a keyer paddle to transmit in these data modes -- no PC required. The KX2 covers 80-10 meters (9 bands), maximizing flexibility for field ops, SOTA, micro-DXpeditions, and ultralight hiking/backpacking. Two padded carrying case options are available (CS40 and CS60). For further details, please visit www.elecraft.com. 73, Wayne, N6KR Eric, WA6HHQ ---- http://www.elecraft.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to kd8rqe at aol.com From w0mbt at w0mbt.net Thu May 19 18:26:10 2016 From: w0mbt at w0mbt.net (Bruce Nourish) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 22:26:10 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Feature request: Mini-banana ground jack for KX3 Message-ID: Hi Elecraft folks, Not sure how feasible it might be, but adding a mini-banana ground jack to the KX3, just like as on the new KX2, would be a huge upgrade in my estimation. Thanks again, and keep innovating. Bruce From bob at hogbytes.com Thu May 19 18:37:37 2016 From: bob at hogbytes.com (Bob N3MNT) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 15:37:37 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Feature request: Mini-banana ground jack for KX3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1463697457576-7617652.post@n2.nabble.com> I am thinking a simple terminal lug modified with a female mini-bananna plug connector that can be secured under one of the four case screws would solve this issue. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Feature-request-Mini-banana-ground-jack-for-KX3-tp7617651p7617652.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From wunder at wunderwood.org Thu May 19 18:44:58 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 15:44:58 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Feature request: Mini-banana ground jack for KX3 In-Reply-To: <1463697457576-7617652.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1463697457576-7617652.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <5582CB04-20F0-4BD5-976D-8EE829C2848A@wunderwood.org> Put a BNC grounding lug under the BNC connector and clip to it. http://www.amphenolrf.com/031-10152-rfx.html wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On May 19, 2016, at 3:37 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote: > > I am thinking a simple terminal lug modified with a female mini-bananna plug > connector that can be secured under one of the four case screws would solve > this issue. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Feature-request-Mini-banana-ground-jack-for-KX3-tp7617651p7617652.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From rmcgaver at wi.rr.com Thu May 19 19:13:55 2016 From: rmcgaver at wi.rr.com (Rick McGaver) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 19:13:55 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Dayton In-Reply-To: <82a8dc7d-cbab-052d-3916-506aac3080ef@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> References: <1463670896694-7617618.post@n2.nabble.com> <82a8dc7d-cbab-052d-3916-506aac3080ef@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Message-ID: <51A09463-D87B-414D-8B84-2A306DFCD973@wi.rr.com> Anyone know how much $$$$$$$$ NK 9G Sent from my iPad > On May 19, 2016, at 1:51 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: > > Besides the exciting KX2? > >> On 5/19/2016 8:14 AM, wa9fvp wrote: >> Anything new @ Dayton? >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rmcgaver at wi.rr.com From Gary at ka1j.com Thu May 19 19:17:55 2016 From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 19:17:55 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New 200 Hz K3 filter In-Reply-To: <573E0271.7010908@comcast.net> References: <573E0271.7010908@comcast.net> Message-ID: <573E49A3.28604.1B21CFE@Gary.ka1j.com> I just bought the new 200Hz filter and I really like it. I have no issues with the gain setting; I have it set to 3 and it's running fine. 73, Gary KA1J > Was there ever a response to the question: > Is there enough IF gain to compensate for the loss of this filter? > > If one used spectrogram to try and set filter gains, there barely was > enough gain with the old 200Hz filter to achieve same peak audio output > within 1db of a carrier relative to the stock 2.7 KHz filter. > > The new 200 Hz filter has more poles and presumably more loss. > > 73 de Brian/K3KO > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gary at ka1j.com > From wunder at wunderwood.org Thu May 19 19:25:17 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 16:25:17 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Dayton In-Reply-To: <51A09463-D87B-414D-8B84-2A306DFCD973@wi.rr.com> References: <1463670896694-7617618.post@n2.nabble.com> <82a8dc7d-cbab-052d-3916-506aac3080ef@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> <51A09463-D87B-414D-8B84-2A306DFCD973@wi.rr.com> Message-ID: <51B75618-9B72-4498-8F10-D7F624568B96@wunderwood.org> Anyone who looks at the order page knows. It is $749, factory assembled. Not available as a kit. ATU and battery options take it over $1000. http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm#kx2 wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On May 19, 2016, at 4:13 PM, Rick McGaver wrote: > > Anyone know how much $$$$$$$$ > NK 9G > > Sent from my iPad > >> On May 19, 2016, at 1:51 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: >> >> Besides the exciting KX2? >> >>> On 5/19/2016 8:14 AM, wa9fvp wrote: >>> Anything new @ Dayton? >>> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to rmcgaver at wi.rr.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk Thu May 19 20:26:15 2016 From: vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk (Johnny Siu) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 00:26:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2? In-Reply-To: <038B336D-ACB8-4EE3-8152-D98A195EB5E6@wunderwood.org> References: <201605190821.u4J8KxdN030278@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> <20160519151010.5853265.76619.38896@att.net> <038B336D-ACB8-4EE3-8152-D98A195EB5E6@wunderwood.org> Message-ID: <1013169479.3957495.1463703975413.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hello Walter, Eric is a smart business man and Wayne is an elite engineer. Both KX2 and K3S are product life cycle extension to fully utilize the existing R&D. ?These products are only evolution and not revolution. I trust Elecraft will use the cash generated from the above products to produce a revolutionary product at at later stage. I keep track of Elecraft business case and use it as examples in my part time lecturing in business school. 73 Johnny VR2XMCbuilder of KX1, K2, K3, KX3 ???? Walter Underwood ???? Elecraft List ????? 2016?05?20? (??) 12:41 AM ??? Re: [Elecraft] New KX2? There is some sort of myth about the KX3 not being rugged. It was designed for trail use. With around 10,000 sold, I haven?t heard any reports of problems with ruggedness. My KX3 has fallen hard enough to bend the BNC connector and it works fine. I would expect the KX2 to be slightly more rugged because the boards are smaller. That?s about it. Of course, the SideKX panels provide extra protection for the knobs. That?s handy. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On May 19, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Erlend Grimseid wrote: > > Looks cool. What I'm really curious about is if it is more "rugged " than > the kx3. > > La4tta > Erlend > 19. mai 2016 17:23 skrev "Phil Genera" : > >> Manual: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX2%20owner's%20man%20A4.pdf >> FAQ: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX2%20FAQ%20v-1-1a.pdf >> >> -- >> Phil >> >> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Jim Finan wrote: >> >>> Up on Order page with a link to the spec sheet. >>> >>> Didn't see it listed yet in 'Order Status'. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> Jim Finan >>> AB4AC >>> >>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. >>>? Original Message >>> From: Edward R Cole >>> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 4:22 AM >>> To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New KX2? >>> >>> Guess if it is unveiled at Dayton - more excitement! >>> >>> Quick look-over and doesn't appear to replace my KX3 which has more >>> to offer me. I don't do SOTA so don't need super-small. Will enjoy >>> reading about it once details are published. >>> >>> 73, Ed - KL7UW >>> http://www.kl7uw.com >>> "Kits made by KL7UW" >>> Dubus Mag business: >>> dubususa at gmail.com From w7ox at socal.rr.com Thu May 19 20:30:00 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 17:30:00 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Announcing the KX2 80-10 m, SSB/CW/Data transceiver In-Reply-To: <723465.2c1bb1b.446f953b@aol.com> References: <723465.2c1bb1b.446f953b@aol.com> Message-ID: <0c313537-f8bb-e034-6824-5f966aa26cdd@socal.rr.com> Mike, From the KX2 FAQ http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX2%20FAQ%20v-1-1a.pdf "Q: Can I use a KXPD3 with the KX2? A: Yes; however, you may need to update the KXPD3. If your KXPD3 has one thumb screw that?s longer than the other, order part no. E700425 to replace the original left-hand thumb screw on the KXPD3. Use of the original longer thumb screw would damage the KX2." So it appears the Adventure mount will fit, but that we may need to shorten the screws a bit. Not sure what "a bit" is! 73, Phil W7OX On 5/19/16 3:16 PM, Mike via Elecraft wrote: > Will the Begali "Adventure" paddles fit the KX2 as well as the KX3? > > Mike KD8RQE From va3mw at portcredit.net Thu May 19 22:04:23 2016 From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 22:04:23 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors In-Reply-To: <3859ED55-8BE2-4444-B739-8127C565DEAC@bellsouth.net> References: <79ECFE13-C270-41F9-B7A8-B7751426A8FF@comcast.net> <573DD62E.2090300@af2z.net> <3859ED55-8BE2-4444-B739-8127C565DEAC@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: I have used Generic PL259's for decades, and while I have had a few bad ones, they usually failed while I was soldering them. But for amateur use, they are fine. Correctly soldered, a connector shouldn't have an issue holding your body weight. :) (Flame retardant suit on) Mike va3mw On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Joe W2KJ wrote: > Believe I read somewhere that Amphenol connectors are being made in > Mexico...not sure how long ago that got started. > > 73, Joe W2KJ > I QRP, therefore I am > > On May 19, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Drew AF2Z wrote: > > > It was an 83-1sp I recently bought that had defective threading. Let's > face it: the name brand products of the past are not what they used to be, > quality-wise. (Some others I will never buy again: Grundig, Levis, Herman > boots...) > > > > Mental note to self regarding PL-259's-- check for defective threading > before soldering connector to cable. > > > > > > > > 73, > > Drew > > AF2Z > > > > > > > > On 05/19/16 09:32, Ronnie Hull wrote: > >> Type N connectors are great! I just don't see where is any gain to > using them on HF! They will make NO difference on either end of your QSO. > >> Most of the PL259's I see for sale today are crap. I'm a professional > in the communications industry so I use both styles on a Dailey basis > >> The 83-1SP's as sold by amphenol today are not anywhere near as good as > they used to be. The silver coating on them doesn't take solder as easily > as they once did! > >> Glad I have plenty of the old ones! > >> > >> Ronnie w5sum > >> > >> Sent from Ronnie's IPhone > >> > >> > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to va3mw at portcredit.net > From ken at arcomcontrollers.com Thu May 19 22:15:26 2016 From: ken at arcomcontrollers.com (Ken Arck) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 19:15:26 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3s arrived today Message-ID: I had it assembled in a few hours and only one glitch - one of the TMP coax connectors had an intermittent so I was getting no Reference to the synth board. I re-crimped the connector and voila! it all came to life. Now I'm just letting it burn in overnight and I'll calibrate it using a GPSDO I have. Then, to figure out how to interface it to my 2 mtr transverter (I bought the K3s mostly for use as an IF radio and backup 6 meter rig) I can't wait to see how it performs on EME! Ken ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" From ron at cobi.biz Thu May 19 22:54:33 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 19:54:33 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors In-Reply-To: References: <79ECFE13-C270-41F9-B7A8-B7751426A8FF@comcast.net> <573DD62E.2090300@af2z.net> <3859ED55-8BE2-4444-B739-8127C565DEAC@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <000301d1b242$f0cb3550$d2619ff0$@biz> That was my experience servicing radio installation on board large ships. We used whatever the local supplier had on hand. After all, it's just a simple two-circuit connector designed for 28 MHz or so (back then "UHF" was 28 MHz and above, but there was really nothing above about 50 MHz before WWII). On connections open to the air (on a ship that meant constant salt spray) we carefully sealed the connection with something like "Coax-Seal" - a putty like sealant - followed by several layers of good quality electrical tape. Connectors that I had installed that way a few years previously that I needed to disconnect for some reason looked a good as the day I had installed them, thousands and thousands of miles and years of salt water later. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Michael Walker Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 7:04 PM To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors I have used Generic PL259's for decades, and while I have had a few bad ones, they usually failed while I was soldering them. But for amateur use, they are fine. Correctly soldered, a connector shouldn't have an issue holding your body weight. :) (Flame retardant suit on) Mike va3mw On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Joe W2KJ wrote: > Believe I read somewhere that Amphenol connectors are being made in > Mexico...not sure how long ago that got started. > > 73, Joe W2KJ > I QRP, therefore I am > > On May 19, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Drew AF2Z wrote: > > > It was an 83-1sp I recently bought that had defective threading. > > Let's > face it: the name brand products of the past are not what they used to > be, quality-wise. (Some others I will never buy again: Grundig, Levis, > Herman > boots...) > > > > Mental note to self regarding PL-259's-- check for defective > > threading > before soldering connector to cable. > > > > > > > > 73, > > Drew > > AF2Z > > > > > > > > On 05/19/16 09:32, Ronnie Hull wrote: > >> Type N connectors are great! I just don't see where is any gain to > using them on HF! They will make NO difference on either end of your QSO. > >> Most of the PL259's I see for sale today are crap. I'm a > >> professional > in the communications industry so I use both styles on a Dailey basis > >> The 83-1SP's as sold by amphenol today are not anywhere near as > >> good as > they used to be. The silver coating on them doesn't take solder as > easily as they once did! > >> Glad I have plenty of the old ones! > >> > >> Ronnie w5sum > >> > >> Sent from Ronnie's IPhone > >> > >> > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > va3mw at portcredit.net > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From vk3byd at bigpond.com Thu May 19 22:48:50 2016 From: vk3byd at bigpond.com (vk3byd) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 12:48:50 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 no assembly? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000a01d1b242$291f5540$7b5dffc0$@com> Can the ATU and RTC be added later or are they only factory fit at build/purchase ? 73, Warren vk3byd > > Message: 27 > Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 17:21:49 -0400 > From: Wayne Burdick > To: Jim Finan > Cc: Ron D'Eau Claire , Martin Sole , > "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 no assembly? > Message-ID: <1F3DEBA3-BB74-46C9-8DE2-5E97046F29A5 at elecraft.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Yes to both. > > Wayne > > ---- > http://www.elecraft.com > > > On May 19, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Jim Finan wrote: > > > > Speaking of assembly, is the KX2 built/assembled in the US like other Elecraft > gear? Was wondering the same about the K-pod since it comes assembled also. > > > > 73, > > > > Jim > > > > Jim Finan > > AB4AC > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From ron at cobi.biz Thu May 19 23:02:34 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 20:02:34 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Announcing the KX2 80-10 m, SSB/CW/Data transceiver In-Reply-To: <0c313537-f8bb-e034-6824-5f966aa26cdd@socal.rr.com> References: <723465.2c1bb1b.446f953b@aol.com> <0c313537-f8bb-e034-6824-5f966aa26cdd@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <000401d1b244$0f691440$2e3b3cc0$@biz> Engineering tells me they clear, even with the long tip, but the long one is only a few mil away from an inductor, so a good tightening could end up hitting the inductor and damaging the main board. You can order a second short screw to replace the longer one with. That also eliminates any issues with having the screws in the right locations on the KX3 too. Order E700245. An alert is scheduled to be shipped with every KX2 warning about this issue. In the meantime, the KXPD3 paddles work just fine leaving the long thumb screw loose. At least they do for me! 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil Wheeler Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 5:30 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Announcing the KX2 80-10 m, SSB/CW/Data transceiver Mike, From the KX2 FAQ http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX2%20FAQ%20v-1-1a.pdf "Q: Can I use a KXPD3 with the KX2? A: Yes; however, you may need to update the KXPD3. If your KXPD3 has one thumb screw that's longer than the other, order part no. E700425 to replace the original left-hand thumb screw on the KXPD3. Use of the original longer thumb screw would damage the KX2." So it appears the Adventure mount will fit, but that we may need to shorten the screws a bit. Not sure what "a bit" is! 73, Phil W7OX On 5/19/16 3:16 PM, Mike via Elecraft wrote: > Will the Begali "Adventure" paddles fit the KX2 as well as the KX3? > > Mike KD8RQE ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From kk7p4dsp at gmail.com Thu May 19 23:04:16 2016 From: kk7p4dsp at gmail.com (Lyle Johnson) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 20:04:16 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 no assembly? In-Reply-To: <000a01d1b242$291f5540$7b5dffc0$@com> References: <000a01d1b242$291f5540$7b5dffc0$@com> Message-ID: The KX2 options can be added at any time in the field. No return to factory required. 73, Lyle KK7P Can the ATU and RTC be added later or are they only factory fit at > build/purchase ? > From riese-k3djc at juno.com Thu May 19 23:05:14 2016 From: riese-k3djc at juno.com (riese-k3djc at juno.com) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 23:05:14 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors Message-ID: Used PL259s on my 432 array,, was up for 15 year and taped and coated with silicon seal,, looked like new when I took them down and the match was 1.1 good connectors Bob K3DJC > On connections open to the air (on a ship that meant constant salt > spray) we > carefully sealed the connection with something like "Coax-Seal" - a > putty > like sealant - followed by several layers of good quality electrical > tape. > Connectors that I had installed that way a few years previously that > I > needed to disconnect for some reason looked a good as the day I had > installed them, thousands and thousands of miles and years of salt > water > later. > > 73, Ron AC7AC > > From w7ox at socal.rr.com Thu May 19 23:10:13 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 20:10:13 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Announcing the KX2 80-10 m, SSB/CW/Data transceiver In-Reply-To: <000401d1b244$0f691440$2e3b3cc0$@biz> References: <723465.2c1bb1b.446f953b@aol.com> <0c313537-f8bb-e034-6824-5f966aa26cdd@socal.rr.com> <000401d1b244$0f691440$2e3b3cc0$@biz> Message-ID: <971ca808-98a4-c3a7-3971-2ec324252b8d@socal.rr.com> Ron, Mike's question was "Will the Begali "Adventure" paddles fit the KX2 as well as the KX3?" Is your answer for the Adventure or for the KXPD3? My take is that it's safe to assume that the Adventure screws might be even longer than the longest one on the KXPD3 -- lacking an input from Begali. 73, Phil W7OX On 5/19/16 8:02 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > Engineering tells me they clear, even with the long tip, but the long one is > only a few mil away from an inductor, so a good tightening could end up > hitting the inductor and damaging the main board. > > You can order a second short screw to replace the longer one with. That also > eliminates any issues with having the screws in the right locations on the > KX3 too. Order E700245. > > An alert is scheduled to be shipped with every KX2 warning about this issue. > > > In the meantime, the KXPD3 paddles work just fine leaving the long thumb > screw loose. At least they do for me! > > 73, Ron AC7AC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil > Wheeler > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 5:30 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Announcing the KX2 80-10 m, SSB/CW/Data transceiver > > Mike, > > From the KX2 FAQ > http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX2%20FAQ%20v-1-1a.pdf > > "Q: > Can I use a KXPD3 with the KX2? > A: > Yes; however, you may need to update the KXPD3. If your KXPD3 has one thumb > screw that's longer than the other, order part no. E700425 to replace the > original left-hand thumb screw on the KXPD3. Use of the original longer > thumb screw would damage the KX2." > > So it appears the Adventure mount will fit, but that we may need to shorten > the screws a bit. Not sure what "a bit" is! > > 73, Phil W7OX > > On 5/19/16 3:16 PM, Mike via Elecraft wrote: >> Will the Begali "Adventure" paddles fit the KX2 as well as the KX3? >> >> Mike KD8RQE From tcrayner at gmail.com Fri May 20 08:53:27 2016 From: tcrayner at gmail.com (Tom Crayner) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 08:53:27 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD3 long screw... Message-ID: I found a good pair of side-cutters with a quick filing and I can't tell the difference between the two screws under a magnifying glass, just stay clear of the threads so you don't damage them. (wear your safety glasses :-) ) I took the screw out of the keyer to avoid damaging it while performing this alteration. YMMV, but you can always order the screw if you have an epic fail. Tom, W2YF From pmeier at me.com Fri May 20 08:54:53 2016 From: pmeier at me.com (Pete Meier) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 06:54:53 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] FS - KX3 Message-ID: <5158D7B9-3581-4A1C-B50A-DD4ADD2FC6EA@me.com> KX3 - K Transceiver S/N 1078 Includes KXFL3, KXAT3, KXBC3, Nifty Stand, all Manuals and Errata This is essentially all the options EXCEPT the paddle key, Hand Mic or 2M/440 options. Price is $1120 including shipping - Continental US only Excellent cosmetic and working condition - No scratches - Firmware is up to date. Fred Cady Book - The KX3 - Portable for and additional $22 (new at $39) Pictures available upon request Pete WK8S From dlrwild1 at verizon.net Fri May 20 10:46:50 2016 From: dlrwild1 at verizon.net (dlrwild1 at verizon.net) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 10:46:50 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FS: N8BX VFO knobs Message-ID: <22FA5EC354194A1986F72B5B0B1F0E68@hamroomPpc> FS: K3/K3S VFO knobs by N8BX black power coated with aluminum inserts, finger dimple, brand new sealed in box. Contact Bob, K3SRO art dlrwild1 at verizon.net ASKING: $150 shipped payment via money order. From pmeier at me.com Fri May 20 11:00:56 2016 From: pmeier at me.com (Pete Meier) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 09:00:56 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] FS - KX3 - SOLD!! Message-ID: <1D84D6E3-50B4-499D-9B0D-43657178A4DD@me.com> KX3 - K Transceiver S/N 1078 Includes KXFL3, KXAT3, KXBC3, Nifty Stand, all Manuals and Errata This is essentially all the options EXCEPT the paddle key, Hand Mic or 2M/440 options. Price is $1120 including shipping - Continental US only Excellent cosmetic and working condition - No scratches - Firmware is up to date. Fred Cady Book - The KX3 - Portable for and additional $22 (new at $39) Pictures available upon request Pete WK8S From g6glp at strus.co.uk Fri May 20 11:01:56 2016 From: g6glp at strus.co.uk (Tony G6GLP) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 16:01:56 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Message-ID: Hi All, I like the look of the KX2 and would consider getting one. I wonder if there is to be a glut of KX3s being off loaded in the near future like the K3 when the K3S came out. Failing that I might see what they have at FHN in a few weeks. I know there is to be an Elecraft stand but I am not sure what items they will have on sale....or could Eric bring that and a K-Pod over for me;-) Not sure how or what currency I would pay in Euros USD or debit of my plastic? Its good to dream so I have ordered the K-Pod as a min. 73 de Tony G6GLP From tomb18 at videotron.ca Fri May 20 11:27:10 2016 From: tomb18 at videotron.ca (Tom) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 11:27:10 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Creative Lab EMU-0202 In-Reply-To: <3UBObTf940zQ03UBPbA9en@videotron.ca> References: <3UBObTf940zQ03UBPbA9en@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <2DBA158F78644E25B24F6649EDCE010C@tomsPC> Hi I agree that those devices were good. I have an emu 0404. They will indeed continue to use the old beta driver. 73 Tom -----Original Message----- From: Barry LaZar Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 4:02 PM To: k3ndm at arrl.net ; bob at hogbytes.com ; doug at ellmore.net ; k3orc at arrl.net ; k3fk at arrl.net ; rasteer at yahoo.com ; robert.hurd4 at verizon.net ; srsigno45 at gmail.com ; hes.not.here at gmail.com ; wayne at wayneprecht.org ; Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Creative Lab EMU-0202 I just re-installed my EMU-0202 sound card. I wanted to see if I could make it play with Windows 10 and everything else I have running, Win4K3, CW Skimmer, and HRD. I've always liked the fact that there was less "garbage" being displayed on the spectrum display. What I found it that Windows 10 picked it right up and it seems to be playing nicely. It's not clear what driver I'm using as I put a beta Windows 7 driver in when this machine had Windows 7. If the Windows 10 install kept my beta driver than I suspect it is that one that is being used. In any case, my old card works which means a $70 card will work vice a $140 card. And since my EMU-0202 is not in current production, a card may be had at even a lessor price than $70. Barry K3NDM ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tomb18 at videotron.ca --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From kk5f at earthlink.net Fri May 20 12:45:49 2016 From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 12:45:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Elecraft] Announcing the KX2 80-10 m, SSB/CW/Data transceiver Message-ID: <2497270.1463762750171.JavaMail.wam@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Olli wrote: > d.) It has general coverage RX, but no AM mode? Does not make sense to me. > > e.) No FM mode. A pity, there's quite some FM activity... I'd also ask why proper (not zero-beat SSB) **reception** of AM (and to lesser extent, FM) could not have been easily added with only an small investment in firmware. Perhaps that is possible in a subsequent firmware release. I have misgivings about the tolerance of the KXBT2 connector/cable for the very frequent battery pack removal and installation that is required for **every** battery recharge. In particular, is the small fixed connector in the KX2 rated for this service over, say, a 15-year product life with daily (probable worst-case) battery removal and replacement? I have always mistrusted internal batteries in the same space as a radio's electronics. I'd have preferred an internal battery compartment that is **environmentally separated** from the rest of the radio, plus integral recharge circuitry that allows proper recharge while the battery remains in place...just like almost all consumer products have for 40 years. I wonder if aftermarket heat sinks, side plates, and panel covers will soon follow. These are just nits. The KX2 is certainly as exciting a product as any ham manufacturer has ever introduced. The apparent prompt availability of the KX2 and accessories except KXPD2 is astonishing...I waited six months for a K1 after Dayton 2000! 73, Mike / KK5F From ve3wdm at hotmail.com Fri May 20 14:15:16 2016 From: ve3wdm at hotmail.com (Mike Weir) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 14:15:16 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Trans gain calibration issue Message-ID: I took my KX3 out on the trail today and for the first time ever I got ERR TXG and D=114? I looked things up on my Iphone and seemed it needed a TX gain calibration. It never has done this in the past but I figured maybe because I loaded on the new firmware that gives me more Transmit power. I took the rig home hooked it up to a dummy load, plugged it into my power supply and ran the TX gain calibration from the KX3 utility. All went well and it passed, I then removed it from the power supply and on battery power I put the rig into transmit (holding the XMIT button in CW mode) and I received the same message. On the home power supply no problem but on the internal batteries I get the error message. VE3WDM Mike Virus-free. www.avast.com From eric_csuf at hotmail.com Fri May 20 14:27:36 2016 From: eric_csuf at hotmail.com (EricJ) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 11:27:36 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors In-Reply-To: References: <79ECFE13-C270-41F9-B7A8-B7751426A8FF@comcast.net> <573DD62E.2090300@af2z.net> <3859ED55-8BE2-4444-B739-8127C565DEAC@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: My experience too. I might have inadvertently bought Amphenol connectors 60 years ago when the market was much smaller, and Amphenol market share was larger, but I never did it on purpose. The only connector failures I've had over the years, a comparative few, could be attributed to hasty construction on my part. But sometimes it's satisfying to use new brand name parts after decades of robbing connectors from old cables, both of unknown origin, because that's what you could afford. Building with a box of little packages from Digi-Key is a different experience than building with crap salvaged from the family's old TV. Eric KE6US On 5/19/2016 7:04 PM, Michael Walker wrote: > I have used Generic PL259's for decades, and while I have had a few bad > ones, they usually failed while I was soldering them. > > But for amateur use, they are fine. Correctly soldered, a connector > shouldn't have an issue holding your body weight. :) > > (Flame retardant suit on) > > Mike va3mw > > > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Joe W2KJ wrote: > >> Believe I read somewhere that Amphenol connectors are being made in >> Mexico...not sure how long ago that got started. >> >> 73, Joe W2KJ >> I QRP, therefore I am >> >> On May 19, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Drew AF2Z wrote: >> >>> It was an 83-1sp I recently bought that had defective threading. Let's >> face it: the name brand products of the past are not what they used to be, >> quality-wise. (Some others I will never buy again: Grundig, Levis, Herman >> boots...) >>> Mental note to self regarding PL-259's-- check for defective threading >> before soldering connector to cable. >>> >>> >>> 73, >>> Drew >>> AF2Z >>> >>> >>> >>> On 05/19/16 09:32, Ronnie Hull wrote: >>>> Type N connectors are great! I just don't see where is any gain to >> using them on HF! They will make NO difference on either end of your QSO. >>>> Most of the PL259's I see for sale today are crap. I'm a professional >> in the communications industry so I use both styles on a Dailey basis >>>> The 83-1SP's as sold by amphenol today are not anywhere near as good as >> they used to be. The silver coating on them doesn't take solder as easily >> as they once did! >>>> Glad I have plenty of the old ones! >>>> >>>> Ronnie w5sum >>>> >>>> Sent from Ronnie's IPhone >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to va3mw at portcredit.net >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric_csuf at hotmail.com > > From c-hawley at illinois.edu Fri May 20 14:28:20 2016 From: c-hawley at illinois.edu (ke9uw) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 11:28:20 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 with KX3 In-Reply-To: <927F5C11-5D84-4B62-BBAA-7529C57E2DCE@mac.com> References: <74148571-A19A-481E-9B6E-9064A6E643C4@widomaker.com> <927F5C11-5D84-4B62-BBAA-7529C57E2DCE@mac.com> Message-ID: <1463768900227-7617672.post@n2.nabble.com> You need the Paula Keezer KX3 band decoder. Makes the KX3 look like a K3 for the purpose. http://www.nx1p.net/what-is-a-kx3-band-decoder/ ----- Chuck, KE9UW -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KAT500-with-KX3-tp7617615p7617672.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From eric_csuf at hotmail.com Fri May 20 14:32:05 2016 From: eric_csuf at hotmail.com (EricJ) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 11:32:05 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD3 long screw... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It helps to thread a nut onto a screw before you cut the end off. When you are done cutting and filing, removing the nut acts to "chase" the threads and clean them up a little. Eric KE6US On 5/20/2016 5:53 AM, Tom Crayner wrote: > I found a good pair of side-cutters with a quick filing and I can't tell > the difference between the two screws under a magnifying glass, just stay > clear of the threads so you don't damage them. (wear your safety glasses > :-) ) > > I took the screw out of the keyer to avoid damaging it while performing > this alteration. > > YMMV, but you can always order the screw if you have an epic fail. > > Tom, W2YF > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric_csuf at hotmail.com > > From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Fri May 20 14:38:30 2016 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 21:38:30 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Trans gain calibration issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mike, I don't have a KX3, but the first thing I would do in this case is measure the voltage from the batteries when transmitting. Maybe the voltage is dropping severely enough to cause a problem. 73, Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO Rehovot, Israel http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 20 May 2016 21:15, Mike Weir wrote: > I took my KX3 out on the trail today and for the first time ever I > got ERR TXG and D=114? I looked things up on my Iphone and seemed it > needed a TX gain calibration. It never has done this in the past but > I figured maybe because I loaded on the new firmware that gives me > more Transmit power. I took the rig home hooked it up to a dummy > load, plugged it into my power supply and ran the TX gain calibration > from the KX3 utility. All went well and it passed, I then removed it > from the power supply and on battery power I put the rig into > transmit (holding the XMIT button in CW mode) and I received the same > message. On the home power supply no problem but on the internal > batteries I get the error message. VE3WDM Mike From ha4zd at t-online.hu Fri May 20 14:59:56 2016 From: ha4zd at t-online.hu (=?UTF-8?B?U3phYsOzIElzdHbDoW4=?=) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 20:59:56 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 VFO encoder Message-ID: <573F5EAC.6010303@t-online.hu> Wondering what kind of VFO encoder built in the KX2? Is it optical with bearing like the current KX3 encoder? This is the most important interface we use frequently. Hope that the videos are coming on Youtube showing the front-end performance of this standalone design. I need a yellow one, easy to find in the grass. 73, Istv?n, ha4zd From jalleninvest at gmail.com Fri May 20 15:15:31 2016 From: jalleninvest at gmail.com (Jim Allen) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 14:15:31 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors Message-ID: <67735F5B-DE00-44CD-A4A0-905A905551A2@gmail.com> I believe the technical name for that "putty like substance" in the Navy supply system was Monkey Shit. When I was a Radioman a long, long time ago, that's the only name ever used. 73 de W6OGC Jim Allen > That was my experience servicing radio installation on board large ships. We > used whatever the local supplier had on hand. After all, it's just a simple > two-circuit connector designed for 28 MHz or so (back then "UHF" was 28 MHz > and above, but there was really nothing above about 50 MHz before WWII). > > On connections open to the air (on a ship that meant constant salt spray) we > carefully sealed the connection with something like "Coax-Seal" - a putty > like sealant - followed by several layers of good quality electrical tape. > Connectors that I had installed that way a few years previously that I > needed to disconnect for some reason looked a good as the day I had > installed them, thousands and thousands of miles and years of salt water > later. > > Sent from my iPad From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Fri May 20 15:41:46 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 11:41:46 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD3 long screw... Message-ID: <201605201941.u4KJfk9k005360@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> You can accomplish this by using a combo crimp and machine screw cutoff tool. They are very common to find in Hardware stores and at NAPA. You thread the machine screw into the tapped hole in the tool to the point you want cut off and squeeze the tool (takes both hands for me) to cut off the screw. Unthreading the cut off screw does the "chasing". I usually lightly file the cut end. But these crimp tools will wear out doing this - but cheap for under $10. I have also just vise-clamped a screw and cut off with hack saw. I run a nut onto the screw before cutting so the process of removing the nut helps chase the threads. But I much prefer just buying the proper length machine screw. I order mine from McMaster-Carr as local stores do not stock below 6-32. 73, Ed - KL7UW Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 11:32:05 -0700 From: EricJ To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXPD3 long screw... Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed It helps to thread a nut onto a screw before you cut the end off. When you are done cutting and filing, removing the nut acts to "chase" the threads and clean them up a little. Eric KE6US 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Fri May 20 15:48:10 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 11:48:10 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] Announcing the KX2 80-10 m, SSB/CW/Data transceiver Message-ID: <201605201948.u4KJmBAv026897@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> Just an observation on the KX2 vs KX3: Elecraft is still making KX3's so I'm guessing they do not see the KX2 as replacing the KX3, but more of augmenting the product line. Therefore, I do not expect a migration by a significant number of KX3 owners as was seen with the K3s from the K3. BTW I'm keeping my K3 and only upgrading the syth boards and modifying the General coverage filter. I also have a KX3-2M and KXPA-100. I see the KX3 having more utility as 2m IF for my microwave transverters. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From w7ox at socal.rr.com Fri May 20 15:51:18 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 12:51:18 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] headphone audio In-Reply-To: References: <07DAA877CB2B49D18D51DC543D2F9923@Johnlabibm> Message-ID: <83839469-E42D-4ABA-816D-D5B8E4A3F944@socal.rr.com> I wonder which rig it is? Phil - Sent from my iPad > On Apr 30, 2016, at 12:08, David Bunte wrote: > > John - > > Perhaps you already tried the phones in another piece of gear, or other > phones in the rig, but the first thing I would check is the headphone plug, > to see if the wire to the right phone broke in the plug assembly. > > I hope that is all it is. > > Dave - K9FN > > >> On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 2:54 PM, John wrote: >> >> I recently found the headphone plug pulled from the jack. >> The rig was on and now I only have audio from the left headphone. >> What should I expect to find bricked? >> Thanks. >> John. >> VE7DAY >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to dpbunte at gmail.com >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w7ox at socal.rr.com From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Fri May 20 15:56:56 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 12:56:56 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 with KX3 In-Reply-To: <1463768900227-7617672.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <74148571-A19A-481E-9B6E-9064A6E643C4@widomaker.com> <927F5C11-5D84-4B62-BBAA-7529C57E2DCE@mac.com> <1463768900227-7617672.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <573F6C08.7060103@audiosystemsgroup.com> This looks like a nice pieces of software, but it is only needed if you're feeding the KAT500 less than 10-20W (that is, KX3 barefoot). The KAT500 senses operating frequency from RF, but it needs about that level to do so. Another good reason for using this band decoder is to automatically switch antennas or bandpass filters. 73, Jim K9YC On Fri,5/20/2016 11:28 AM, ke9uw wrote: > You need the Paula Keezer KX3 band decoder. Makes the KX3 look like a K3 for > the purpose. > > http://www.nx1p.net/what-is-a-kx3-band-decoder/ From w7ox at socal.rr.com Fri May 20 16:00:27 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 13:00:27 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 VFO encoder In-Reply-To: <573F5EAC.6010303@t-online.hu> References: <573F5EAC.6010303@t-online.hu> Message-ID: <58DD3DBF-D422-45E6-8EB1-A057016962A7@socal.rr.com> Read the FAQ. http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX2%20FAQ%20v-1-1a.pdf Not optical, as I recall. Phil w7ox - Sent from my iPad > On May 20, 2016, at 11:59, Szab? Istv?n wrote: > > Wondering what kind of VFO encoder built in the KX2? Is it optical with bearing like the current KX3 encoder? This is the most important interface we use frequently. Hope that the videos are coming on Youtube showing the front-end performance of this standalone design. I need a yellow one, easy to find in the grass. > > 73, Istv?n, ha4zd > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w7ox at socal.rr.com From tomb18 at videotron.ca Fri May 20 16:02:59 2016 From: tomb18 at videotron.ca (tomb18) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 16:02:59 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 with KX3 Message-ID: <824f1vsyhcy06quy7srtdoyp.1463774579390@email.android.com> HiWin4K3Suite supports this without hardware.?73 Tom Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.-------- Original message --------From: Jim Brown Date: 2016-05-20 3:56 PM (GMT-05:00) To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 with KX3 This looks like a nice pieces of software, but it is only needed if you're feeding the KAT500 less than 10-20W (that is, KX3 barefoot). The KAT500 senses operating frequency from RF, but it needs about that level to do so. Another good reason for using this band decoder is to automatically switch antennas or bandpass filters. 73, Jim K9YC On Fri,5/20/2016 11:28 AM, ke9uw wrote: > You need the Paula Keezer KX3 band decoder. Makes the KX3 look like a K3 for > the purpose. > > http://www.nx1p.net/what-is-a-kx3-band-decoder/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tomb18 at videotron.ca From ha4zd at t-online.hu Fri May 20 16:05:18 2016 From: ha4zd at t-online.hu (=?UTF-8?B?U3phYsOzIElzdHbDoW4=?=) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 22:05:18 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 VFO encoder In-Reply-To: <58DD3DBF-D422-45E6-8EB1-A057016962A7@socal.rr.com> References: <573F5EAC.6010303@t-online.hu> <58DD3DBF-D422-45E6-8EB1-A057016962A7@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <573F6DFE.6010900@t-online.hu> Thanks, I missed it last night. 73, Istv?n On 5/20/2016 10:00 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > Read the FAQ. http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX2%20FAQ%20v-1-1a.pdf > > Not optical, as I recall. > > Phil w7ox - Sent from my iPad > > On May 20, 2016, at 11:59, Szab? Istv?n > wrote: > >> Wondering what kind of VFO encoder built in the KX2? Is it optical >> with bearing like the current KX3 encoder? This is the most important >> interface we use frequently. Hope that the videos are coming on >> Youtube showing the front-end performance of this standalone design. >> I need a yellow one, easy to find in the grass. >> >> 73, Istv?n, ha4zd >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to w7ox at socal.rr.com -- It doesn't matter where you are coming from. All that matters is where you are going. I've found that luck is quite predictable. If you want more luck, take more chances. Be more active. Show up more often. Whatever you believe with feeling becomes your reality. Brian Tracy From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Fri May 20 16:09:45 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 13:09:45 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Announcing the KX2 80-10 m, SSB/CW/Data transceiver In-Reply-To: <201605201948.u4KJmBAv026897@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201605201948.u4KJmBAv026897@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <573F6F09.40001@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Fri,5/20/2016 12:48 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: > Just an observation on the KX2 vs KX3: > > Elecraft is still making KX3's so I'm guessing they do not see the KX2 > as replacing the KX3, but more of augmenting the product line. Exactly right. The KX2 works ONLY the HF bands, 80-10M. It's about half the size and weight of a KX3, is optimized for backpacking, has fewer features. It comes only factory-built, and costs about 1/3 less than a factory-built KX3. The KX3 works all bands 160-6M, and can work 2M with the transverter option. It is larger and has more features than a KX2. I loaned my KX3/KXPA100 to AF6RT and W6JTI for a backpacking expedition to a rare 6M grid, and we used that combo for mobile operation during the recent 7QP (7th area QSO Party) expedition to seven counties in NV. 73, Jim K9YC From ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca Fri May 20 16:40:15 2016 From: ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca (Mike Smith VE9AA) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 17:40:15 -0300 Subject: [Elecraft] K3, noise from com cable on SSB? Message-ID: <003c01d1b2d7$e1d1a260$a574e720$@nbnet.nb.ca> A new to me low SN# K3..no problems on CW. Noise blanker now works! I "think" all the SSB settings are ok. I run SO2R with a YCCC SO2R+ box, so audio gets routed through a laptop, then out to the so2r box, then to one of 2 rigs. When on SSB I hear a moderately loud feedback-ISB noise w/ an added pulsing noise in my earphones (monitor) (and also outgoing on the air). It's probably equal to about 25w or 25% of my outgoing sound. No good. I initially thought it was my cheapie antique unshielded FTDI based serial to USB adapter, as it had LED's which flashed to the exact pulse I was hearing, so I replaced it with a brand new FTDI based cable. Same sound. If I plug a mic directly into the radio, no problems. Another radio on my same (SO2R) setup has no noise on the audio, so do I have something not set right in the rig, or what's going on with my com port? Thanks for any insight. Mike VE9AA Mike, Coreen & Corey Keswick Ridge, NB From n6kr at elecraft.com Fri May 20 17:43:45 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 17:43:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Announcing the KX2 80-10 m, SSB/CW/Data transceiver In-Reply-To: <2497270.1463762750171.JavaMail.wam@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <2497270.1463762750171.JavaMail.wam@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: The battery connector is very heavy duty, rated for 5 amps and thousands of insertion/removal cycles. 73, Wayne N6KR ---- http://www.elecraft.com > On May 20, 2016, at 12:45 PM, Mike Morrow wrote: > > Olli wrote: > >> d.) It has general coverage RX, but no AM mode? Does not make sense to me. >> >> e.) No FM mode. A pity, there's quite some FM activity... > > I'd also ask why proper (not zero-beat SSB) **reception** of AM (and to lesser extent, FM) could not have been easily added with only an small investment in firmware. Perhaps that is possible in a subsequent firmware release. > > I have misgivings about the tolerance of the KXBT2 connector/cable for the very frequent battery pack removal and installation that is required for **every** battery recharge. In particular, is the small fixed connector in the KX2 rated for this service over, say, a 15-year product life with daily (probable worst-case) battery removal and replacement? > > I have always mistrusted internal batteries in the same space as a radio's electronics. I'd have preferred an internal battery compartment that is **environmentally separated** from the rest of the radio, plus integral recharge circuitry that allows proper recharge while the battery remains in place...just like almost all consumer products have for 40 years. > > I wonder if aftermarket heat sinks, side plates, and panel covers will soon follow. > > These are just nits. The KX2 is certainly as exciting a product as any ham manufacturer has ever introduced. The apparent prompt availability of the KX2 and accessories except KXPD2 is astonishing...I waited six months for a K1 after Dayton 2000! > > 73, > Mike / KK5F > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From ron at cobi.biz Fri May 20 17:52:47 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 14:52:47 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Announcing the KX2 80-10 m, SSB/CW/Data transceiver In-Reply-To: <971ca808-98a4-c3a7-3971-2ec324252b8d@socal.rr.com> References: <723465.2c1bb1b.446f953b@aol.com> <0c313537-f8bb-e034-6824-5f966aa26cdd@socal.rr.com> <000401d1b244$0f691440$2e3b3cc0$@biz> <971ca808-98a4-c3a7-3971-2ec324252b8d@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <006e01d1b2e1$f2b41950$d81c4bf0$@biz> Sorry for the confusion Phil. This is the question and answer I added a bit of information to. Saw nothing about the Begali Adventure there. "Q: Can I use a KXPD3 with the KX2? A: Yes; however, you may need to update the KXPD3. If your KXPD3 has one thumb screw that's longer than the other, order part no. E700425 to replace the original left-hand thumb screw on the KXPD3. Use of the original longer thumb screw would damage the KX2." Ron From: Phil Wheeler [mailto:w7ox at socal.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 8:10 PM To: Ron D'Eau Claire; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Announcing the KX2 80-10 m, SSB/CW/Data transceiver Ron, Mike's question was "Will the Begali "Adventure" paddles fit the KX2 as well as the KX3?" Is your answer for the Adventure or for the KXPD3? My take is that it's safe to assume that the Adventure screws might be even longer than the longest one on the KXPD3 -- lacking an input from Begali. 73, Phil W7OX On 5/19/16 8:02 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: Engineering tells me they clear, even with the long tip, but the long one is only a few mil away from an inductor, so a good tightening could end up hitting the inductor and damaging the main board. You can order a second short screw to replace the longer one with. That also eliminates any issues with having the screws in the right locations on the KX3 too. Order E700245. An alert is scheduled to be shipped with every KX2 warning about this issue. In the meantime, the KXPD3 paddles work just fine leaving the long thumb screw loose. At least they do for me! 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil Wheeler Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 5:30 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Announcing the KX2 80-10 m, SSB/CW/Data transceiver Mike, From the KX2 FAQ http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX2%20FAQ%20v-1-1a.pdf "Q: Can I use a KXPD3 with the KX2? A: Yes; however, you may need to update the KXPD3. If your KXPD3 has one thumb screw that's longer than the other, order part no. E700425 to replace the original left-hand thumb screw on the KXPD3. Use of the original longer thumb screw would damage the KX2." So it appears the Adventure mount will fit, but that we may need to shorten the screws a bit. Not sure what "a bit" is! 73, Phil W7OX On 5/19/16 3:16 PM, Mike via Elecraft wrote: Will the Begali "Adventure" paddles fit the KX2 as well as the KX3? Mike KD8RQE From ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca Fri May 20 19:25:59 2016 From: ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca (Mike Smith VE9AA) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 20:25:59 -0300 Subject: [Elecraft] K3, noise from com cable on SSB? Message-ID: <004101d1b2ef$08a5b360$19f11a20$@nbnet.nb.ca> I think I discovered something. Playing with audio levels on the computer, I think I have this background tone and pulsing coming from the com port down to acceptable levels. I cranked the audio way up in Windows (was at a "2") and it seems to nearly completely mask this interference/feedback without distortion. I don't do much SSB, so it'll probably work out. If anyone else has ever experienced this when running their audio through a computer, I've love to hear from you ! Yes, I have the USB cable through a ferrite also. TNx Mike VE9AA Mike, Coreen & Corey Keswick Ridge, NB From ken at arcomcontrollers.com Fri May 20 19:29:57 2016 From: ken at arcomcontrollers.com (Ken Arck) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 16:29:57 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Audio via USB for the K3S? In-Reply-To: <003c01d1b2d7$e1d1a260$a574e720$@nbnet.nb.ca> References: <003c01d1b2d7$e1d1a260$a574e720$@nbnet.nb.ca> Message-ID: I can't seem to find anything in the manual about this but I presume there is some driver needed to use the USP port for audio as well as CAT/PTT? Ken ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" From nr4c at widomaker.com Fri May 20 21:19:27 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 21:19:27 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Audio via USB for the K3S? In-Reply-To: <20160520233155.51071149B499@mailman.qth.net> References: <003c01d1b2d7$e1d1a260$a574e720$@nbnet.nb.ca> <20160520233155.51071149B499@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: <238AC49A-73BE-4F2E-AD6C-E347F87CA4D7@widomaker.com> Well if you look at the sound devices you should see a USB CODEK as a record/playback device. That's it. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 20, 2016, at 7:29 PM, Ken Arck wrote: > > I can't seem to find anything in the manual about this but I presume there is some driver needed to use the USP port for audio as well as CAT/PTT? > > Ken > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > President and CTO - Arcom Communications > Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. > http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ > Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and > we offer complete repeater packages! > AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 > http://www.irlp.net > "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From nelasat at yahoo.com Fri May 20 21:24:17 2016 From: nelasat at yahoo.com (KV5J) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 18:24:17 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Announcing the KX2 80-10 m, SSB/CW/Data transceiver In-Reply-To: References: <063EB36B-7049-411D-BD1C-5E2E5F1DD2DF@elecraft.com> <2497270.1463762750171.JavaMail.wam@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1463793857355-7617691.post@n2.nabble.com> Kinda looks like an expensive knock off of the radios the Chinese have been selling for the past year. Keith -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Announcing-the-KX2-80-10-m-SSB-CW-Data-transceiver-tp7617637p7617691.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From bob at hogbytes.com Fri May 20 21:56:31 2016 From: bob at hogbytes.com (Bob N3MNT) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 18:56:31 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Dayton In-Reply-To: <51A09463-D87B-414D-8B84-2A306DFCD973@wi.rr.com> References: <1463670896694-7617618.post@n2.nabble.com> <82a8dc7d-cbab-052d-3916-506aac3080ef@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> <51A09463-D87B-414D-8B84-2A306DFCD973@wi.rr.com> Message-ID: <1463795791074-7617692.post@n2.nabble.com> See Elecraft website Datasheet, Manual and Order info posted. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Dayton-tp7617618p7617692.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From wunder at wunderwood.org Fri May 20 21:57:57 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 18:57:57 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Announcing the KX2 80-10 m, SSB/CW/Data transceiver In-Reply-To: <1463793857355-7617691.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <063EB36B-7049-411D-BD1C-5E2E5F1DD2DF@elecraft.com> <2497270.1463762750171.JavaMail.wam@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <1463793857355-7617691.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <7C750197-BE02-4390-A30A-A7F4430BF7F5@wunderwood.org> I recommend to the list the recently discovered treatise by Aristotle, ?On Trolling?, translated by Rachel Barney. "That trolling is a shameful thing, and that no one of sense would accept to be called ?troll?, all are agreed; but what trolling is, and how many its species are, and whether there is an excellence of the troll, is unclear.? http://journals.cambridge.org/download.php?file=%2F3444_15BC503C9245225C89A3130E375C0135_journals__APA_S2053447716000099a.pdf&cover=Y&code=49b4c098689362d108c095f29250a990 wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On May 20, 2016, at 6:24 PM, KV5J via Elecraft wrote: > > Kinda looks like an expensive knock off of the radios the Chinese have been > selling for the past year. > > Keith > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Announcing-the-KX2-80-10-m-SSB-CW-Data-transceiver-tp7617637p7617691.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From ken at arcomcontrollers.com Fri May 20 22:00:05 2016 From: ken at arcomcontrollers.com (Ken Arck) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 19:00:05 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Audio via USB for the K3S? In-Reply-To: <238AC49A-73BE-4F2E-AD6C-E347F87CA4D7@widomaker.com> References: <003c01d1b2d7$e1d1a260$a574e720$@nbnet.nb.ca> <20160520233155.51071149B499@mailman.qth.net> <238AC49A-73BE-4F2E-AD6C-E347F87CA4D7@widomaker.com> Message-ID: Thanks to everyone who responded. As I already had the USB Codecs installed for a Yaesu radio, I thought maybe there were different ones for the K3. I'll do some playing, thanks Ken At 06:19 PM 5/20/2016, Nr4c wrote: >Well if you look at the sound devices you should see a USB CODEK as >a record/playback device. That's it. > >Sent from my iPhone >...nr4c. bill > > > > On May 20, 2016, at 7:29 PM, Ken Arck wrote: > > > > I can't seem to find anything in the manual about this but I > presume there is some driver needed to use the USP port for audio > as well as CAT/PTT? > > > > Ken > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > President and CTO - Arcom Communications > > Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. > > http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ > > Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and > > we offer complete repeater packages! > > AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 > > http://www.irlp.net > > "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" From ken at arcomcontrollers.com Fri May 20 23:19:07 2016 From: ken at arcomcontrollers.com (Ken Arck) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 20:19:07 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Audio via USB for the K3S? In-Reply-To: <20160521020144.A1DE9149B695@mailman.qth.net> References: <003c01d1b2d7$e1d1a260$a574e720$@nbnet.nb.ca> <20160520233155.51071149B499@mailman.qth.net> <238AC49A-73BE-4F2E-AD6C-E347F87CA4D7@widomaker.com> <20160521020144.A1DE9149B695@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: Well.. PTT is working fine as is the CODEC from radio to computer (in my case, WSJT). But for the life of me, I cannot get anything but digital noise from computer to radio. I'm not exactly a neophyte here but I cannot get this to work (and yes, I've selected the USB Speaker CODEC for driving the radio) Win 10 on a 64 bit, 3.5 gHz machine.... Ken At 07:00 PM 5/20/2016, Ken Arck wrote: >Thanks to everyone who responded. > >As I already had the USB Codecs installed for a Yaesu radio, I >thought maybe there were different ones for the K3. I'll do some >playing, thanks > >Ken > > >At 06:19 PM 5/20/2016, Nr4c wrote: >>Well if you look at the sound devices you should see a USB CODEK as >>a record/playback device. That's it. >> >>Sent from my iPhone >>...nr4c. bill >> >> >> > On May 20, 2016, at 7:29 PM, Ken Arck wrote: >> > >> > I can't seem to find anything in the manual about this but I >> presume there is some driver needed to use the USP port for audio >> as well as CAT/PTT? >> > >> > Ken >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > President and CTO - Arcom Communications >> > Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. >> > http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ >> > Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and >> > we offer complete repeater packages! >> > AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 >> > http://www.irlp.net >> > "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" >> > >> > ______________________________________________________________ >> > Elecraft mailing list >> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> > >> > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >President and CTO - Arcom Communications >Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. >http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ >Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and >we offer complete repeater packages! >AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 >http://www.irlp.net >"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" > >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to ken at arcomcontrollers.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" From ed at w0yk.com Sat May 21 00:10:32 2016 From: ed at w0yk.com (Ed Muns) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 21:10:32 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Announcing the KX2 80-10 m, SSB/CW/Data transceiver In-Reply-To: <006e01d1b2e1$f2b41950$d81c4bf0$@biz> References: <723465.2c1bb1b.446f953b@aol.com><0c313537-f8bb-e034-6824-5f966aa26cdd@socal.rr.com><000401d1b244$0f691440$2e3b3cc0$@biz><971ca808-98a4-c3a7-3971-2ec324252b8d@socal.rr.com> <006e01d1b2e1$f2b41950$d81c4bf0$@biz> Message-ID: <7DE4F2BA3F274EADB15B91586205E9DD@X2201> I have been using a Begali Adventurer Mono on my KX2 SN 20 for several weeks now with no problem. The screws look short enough and are not anywhere close to the PCB. This morning (Friday) before the Dayton vendor displays opened, I had Wayne look at my paddle and he verified that the screws were short enough. Ed W0YK ____________________________________________________________________________ ___________ -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 14:53 To: 'Phil Wheeler'; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Announcing the KX2 80-10 m, SSB/CW/Data transceiver Sorry for the confusion Phil. This is the question and answer I added a bit of information to. Saw nothing about the Begali Adventure there. "Q: Can I use a KXPD3 with the KX2? A: Yes; however, you may need to update the KXPD3. If your KXPD3 has one thumb screw that's longer than the other, order part no. E700425 to replace the original left-hand thumb screw on the KXPD3. Use of the original longer thumb screw would damage the KX2." Ron From: Phil Wheeler [mailto:w7ox at socal.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 8:10 PM To: Ron D'Eau Claire; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Announcing the KX2 80-10 m, SSB/CW/Data transceiver Ron, Mike's question was "Will the Begali "Adventure" paddles fit the KX2 as well as the KX3?" Is your answer for the Adventure or for the KXPD3? My take is that it's safe to assume that the Adventure screws might be even longer than the longest one on the KXPD3 -- lacking an input from Begali. 73, Phil W7OX On 5/19/16 8:02 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: Engineering tells me they clear, even with the long tip, but the long one is only a few mil away from an inductor, so a good tightening could end up hitting the inductor and damaging the main board. You can order a second short screw to replace the longer one with. That also eliminates any issues with having the screws in the right locations on the KX3 too. Order E700245. An alert is scheduled to be shipped with every KX2 warning about this issue. In the meantime, the KXPD3 paddles work just fine leaving the long thumb screw loose. At least they do for me! 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil Wheeler Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 5:30 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Announcing the KX2 80-10 m, SSB/CW/Data transceiver Mike, From the KX2 FAQ http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX2%20FAQ%20v-1-1a.pdf "Q: Can I use a KXPD3 with the KX2? A: Yes; however, you may need to update the KXPD3. If your KXPD3 has one thumb screw that's longer than the other, order part no. E700425 to replace the original left-hand thumb screw on the KXPD3. Use of the original longer thumb screw would damage the KX2." So it appears the Adventure mount will fit, but that we may need to shorten the screws a bit. Not sure what "a bit" is! 73, Phil W7OX On 5/19/16 3:16 PM, Mike via Elecraft wrote: Will the Begali "Adventure" paddles fit the KX2 as well as the KX3? Mike KD8RQE ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ed at w0yk.com From n3wg at pignology.net Sat May 21 00:35:25 2016 From: n3wg at pignology.net (Nick Garner) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 21:35:25 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Pignology and PackTenna Dayton Sale Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Unfortunately I couldn't make it to Dayton this year but, following tradition, I have discounted the Pignology hardware products for the online shop. http://shop.pignology.net For PackTenna, George (KJ6VU), the other half (more like 9/10ths) of PackTenna will be there showing the new PackTenna Mini. The Mini and the telescoping masts have also been discounted in the PackTenna online shop. http://shop.packtenna.com Websites with more information: http://pignology.net http://packtenna.com 73, Nick N3WG From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Sat May 21 02:25:01 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 23:25:01 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3, noise from com cable on SSB? In-Reply-To: <004101d1b2ef$08a5b360$19f11a20$@nbnet.nb.ca> References: <004101d1b2ef$08a5b360$19f11a20$@nbnet.nb.ca> Message-ID: <573FFF3D.40402@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Fri,5/20/2016 4:25 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote: > If anyone else has ever experienced this when running their audio through a > computer, I've love to hear from you What are you trying to accomplish by "running audio through a computer?" Contest message playback? My Power Point on Grounding, Bonding, and Audio. k9yc.com/publish.htm detailed advice for interconnections. The review of USB sound adapters includes detailed advice on setting levels. The solution to your issues is very likely within these two pieces. I think we worked you from N7N during 7QP. Thanks! 73, Jim K9YC From ve6dc at xplornet.ca Sat May 21 08:21:24 2016 From: ve6dc at xplornet.ca (Renze VE6DC) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 06:21:24 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] lead-time kx3 Message-ID: <001c01d1b35b$5bf4f0f0$13ded2d0$@xplornet.ca> Does anyone know the lead-time for a factory built KX3 from ordering to shipping? 73 Renze ve6dc From john at kn5l.net Sat May 21 08:45:01 2016 From: john at kn5l.net (John Oppenheimer) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 07:45:01 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 with Begali Adventurer Mono In-Reply-To: <7DE4F2BA3F274EADB15B91586205E9DD@X2201> References: <723465.2c1bb1b.446f953b@aol.com> <0c313537-f8bb-e034-6824-5f966aa26cdd@socal.rr.com> <000401d1b244$0f691440$2e3b3cc0$@biz> <971ca808-98a4-c3a7-3971-2ec324252b8d@socal.rr.com> <006e01d1b2e1$f2b41950$d81c4bf0$@biz> <7DE4F2BA3F274EADB15B91586205E9DD@X2201> Message-ID: <0515675f-0135-5f2a-01c1-aef4bbc8b671@kn5l.net> Thank you Ed, this is the answer I've been waiting for: John KN5L On 05/20/2016 11:10 PM, Ed Muns wrote: > I have been using a Begali Adventurer Mono on my KX2 SN 20 for several weeks > now with no problem. The screws look short enough and are not anywhere > close to the PCB. > > This morning (Friday) before the Dayton vendor displays opened, I had Wayne > look at my paddle and he verified that the screws were short enough. > > Ed W0YK From nq5t at tx.rr.com Sat May 21 08:51:47 2016 From: nq5t at tx.rr.com (GRANT YOUNGMAN) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 07:51:47 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] lead-time kx3 In-Reply-To: <001c01d1b35b$5bf4f0f0$13ded2d0$@xplornet.ca> References: <001c01d1b35b$5bf4f0f0$13ded2d0$@xplornet.ca> Message-ID: Looks like 2-5 business days. http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm Grant NQ5T K3 #2091, KX3 #8342 > On May 21, 2016, at 7:21 AM, Renze VE6DC wrote: > > Does anyone know the lead-time for a factory built KX3 from ordering to > shipping? > > 73 Renze ve6dc From willis.mj at gmail.com Sat May 21 09:29:03 2016 From: willis.mj at gmail.com (AD6XY) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 06:29:03 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Transverter offset In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1463837343746-7617701.post@n2.nabble.com> Sorry this is an old thread. Is there any particular reason why the frequency error offset is limited to +-9.99kHz? My 10GHz transverter has attained LO stability at 25kHz off its nominal figure and I can't correct for this. 10kHz sounds like at lot on 2m or even 23cms but on 10 GHz its barely 1ppm. Mike -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Transverter-offset-tp2288121p7617701.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From wd8kni at gmail.com Sat May 21 10:40:44 2016 From: wd8kni at gmail.com (Fred Moore) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 10:40:44 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RX eq Message-ID: I don't see a reference to setting the receive eq via a macro, I do see a reference to setting the transmit eq. Surely I am missing something.. info please.. thanks in advance.. Fred -- Fred Moore Ham: WD8KNI Cell 321-217-8699 email: fred at fmeco.com From w7ox at socal.rr.com Sat May 21 10:47:47 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 07:47:47 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Begali Adventure on the KX2 In-Reply-To: <7DE4F2BA3F274EADB15B91586205E9DD@X2201> References: <723465.2c1bb1b.446f953b@aol.com> <0c313537-f8bb-e034-6824-5f966aa26cdd@socal.rr.com> <000401d1b244$0f691440$2e3b3cc0$@biz> <971ca808-98a4-c3a7-3971-2ec324252b8d@socal.rr.com> <006e01d1b2e1$f2b41950$d81c4bf0$@biz> <7DE4F2BA3F274EADB15B91586205E9DD@X2201> Message-ID: <50168c91-1e6c-e3c1-48c1-48bbb288fad9@socal.rr.com> Excellent news, Ed. Thanks for posting! 73, Phil W7OX On 5/20/16 9:10 PM, Ed Muns wrote: > I have been using a Begali Adventurer Mono on my KX2 SN 20 for several weeks > now with no problem. The screws look short enough and are not anywhere > close to the PCB. > > This morning (Friday) before the Dayton vendor displays opened, I had Wayne > look at my paddle and he verified that the screws were short enough. > > Ed W0YK > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil > Wheeler > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 5:30 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Announcing the KX2 80-10 m, SSB/CW/Data transceiver > > Mike, > > From the KX2 FAQ > http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX2%20FAQ%20v-1-1a.pdf > > "Q: > Can I use a KXPD3 with the KX2? > A: > Yes; however, you may need to update the KXPD3. If your KXPD3 has one thumb > screw that's longer than the other, order part no. E700425 to replace the > original left-hand thumb screw on the KXPD3. Use of the original longer > thumb screw would damage the KX2." > > So it appears the Adventure mount will fit, but that we may need to shorten > the screws a bit. Not sure what "a bit" is! > > 73, Phil W7OX > > On 5/19/16 3:16 PM, Mike via Elecraft wrote: > > Will the Begali "Adventure" paddles fit the KX2 as well as the KX3? > > Mike KD8RQE > > > > From rpfjeld at outlook.com Sat May 21 10:54:29 2016 From: rpfjeld at outlook.com (Richard Fjeld) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 09:54:29 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Equalizer comment Message-ID: I'm not one to get mushy about my things. I try to remain objective, but I want to make the following comment; Because I have a pan adapter (P3), I was asked to help a ham get the transmit audio on his new import equalized. What an experience! It made me realize what a fine equalizer design the K3 and K3s has. And hello to new K3s owner Ken Arck. It's been a few years, and the controller is doing fine. I wish my K3 was an 's' model. Enjoy! Dick, n0ce From nr4c at widomaker.com Sat May 21 11:06:20 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 11:06:20 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] lead-time kx3 In-Reply-To: <001c01d1b35b$5bf4f0f0$13ded2d0$@xplornet.ca> References: <001c01d1b35b$5bf4f0f0$13ded2d0$@xplornet.ca> Message-ID: <5FA67F5B-EA8C-4A1F-953B-1F92A9C2F35B@widomaker.com> Web site. Usually 2-3 days I think. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 21, 2016, at 8:21 AM, Renze VE6DC wrote: > > Does anyone know the lead-time for a factory built KX3 from ordering to > shipping? > > 73 Renze ve6dc > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From nr4c at widomaker.com Sat May 21 11:09:34 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 11:09:34 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RX eq In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0AAA2E37-8F50-48EE-AE34-3DF9E9380382@widomaker.com> You have not missed anything. I had hoped this would get to the top of the list. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 21, 2016, at 10:40 AM, Fred Moore wrote: > > I don't see a reference to setting the receive eq via a macro, I do see > a reference to setting the transmit eq. Surely I am missing > something.. info please.. thanks in advance.. Fred > > > -- > > Fred Moore > Ham: WD8KNI > Cell 321-217-8699 > email: fred at fmeco.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From wd8kni at gmail.com Sat May 21 11:11:55 2016 From: wd8kni at gmail.com (Fred Moore) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 11:11:55 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RX eq In-Reply-To: <0AAA2E37-8F50-48EE-AE34-3DF9E9380382@widomaker.com> References: <0AAA2E37-8F50-48EE-AE34-3DF9E9380382@widomaker.com> Message-ID: <3d9a9500-3a1b-21aa-e53e-2f47d87efc62@gmail.com> Well, that really sucks when you are moving between cw and other modes.. oh well, hopefully it will be added.. thanks for the reply.. Fred On 5/21/16 11:09 AM, Nr4c wrote: > You have not missed anything. I had hoped this would get to the top of the list. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On May 21, 2016, at 10:40 AM, Fred Moore wrote: >> >> I don't see a reference to setting the receive eq via a macro, I do see >> a reference to setting the transmit eq. Surely I am missing >> something.. info please.. thanks in advance.. Fred >> >> >> -- >> >> Fred Moore >> Ham: WD8KNI >> Cell 321-217-8699 >> email: fred at fmeco.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com -- Fred Moore Ham: WD8KNI Cell 321-217-8699 email: fred at fmeco.com From wd8kni at gmail.com Sat May 21 11:13:04 2016 From: wd8kni at gmail.com (Fred Moore) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 11:13:04 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] mailman Message-ID: I have my options set to receive my own posts, but don't get them.. any thoughts anyone.. Fred -- Fred Moore Ham: WD8KNI Cell 321-217-8699 email: fred at fmeco.com From nr4c at widomaker.com Sat May 21 11:30:28 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 11:30:28 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RX eq In-Reply-To: <3d9a9500-3a1b-21aa-e53e-2f47d87efc62@gmail.com> References: <0AAA2E37-8F50-48EE-AE34-3DF9E9380382@widomaker.com> <3d9a9500-3a1b-21aa-e53e-2f47d87efc62@gmail.com> Message-ID: <683E5BA6-67CE-4CC2-852A-ECCDFFAC9D50@widomaker.com> Note that eq settings for SSB and CW are saved separately. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 21, 2016, at 11:11 AM, Fred Moore wrote: > > Well, that really sucks when you are moving between cw and other modes.. oh well, hopefully it will be added.. thanks for the reply.. Fred > > >> On 5/21/16 11:09 AM, Nr4c wrote: >> You have not missed anything. I had hoped this would get to the top of the list. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ...nr4c. bill >> >> >>> On May 21, 2016, at 10:40 AM, Fred Moore wrote: >>> >>> I don't see a reference to setting the receive eq via a macro, I do see >>> a reference to setting the transmit eq. Surely I am missing >>> something.. info please.. thanks in advance.. Fred >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Fred Moore >>> Ham: WD8KNI >>> Cell 321-217-8699 >>> email: fred at fmeco.com >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com > > -- > > Fred Moore > Ham: WD8KNI > Cell 321-217-8699 > email: fred at fmeco.com From ken at arcomcontrollers.com Sat May 21 12:09:46 2016 From: ken at arcomcontrollers.com (Ken Arck) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 09:09:46 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [RESOLVED] Audio via USB for the K3S? In-Reply-To: <20160521031952.0934F149B448@mailman.qth.net> References: <003c01d1b2d7$e1d1a260$a574e720$@nbnet.nb.ca> <20160520233155.51071149B499@mailman.qth.net> <238AC49A-73BE-4F2E-AD6C-E347F87CA4D7@widomaker.com> <20160521020144.A1DE9149B695@mailman.qth.net> <20160521031952.0934F149B448@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: Well..it seems the only way for the USB audio from computer > radio to work is for radio to be in DATA mode.....Duh...... Thanks to all who responded Ken ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" From edauer at law.du.edu Sat May 21 12:32:29 2016 From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 16:32:29 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 PA Failures and Remote Antenna Switch System Message-ID: <5E0510A0-127C-4131-8AA8-D22E9E766F16@law.du.edu> For any who may be interested, the following is the resolution of a problem I had with a K2 that kept blowing its PA transistors ? events for which I requested help on this reflector, and about which many replied (thank you.) Following the build last Fall the K2 blew away its PA transistors the first time it was connected to my antenna system. And, after repair, the second time and the third time. It went back to Don W three times for diagnosis and replacement of the transistors and other PA circuit components that failed when the transistors did. Don could not find any reason why the failures were occurring. With each replacement he checked it out thoroughly, on one trip for a full week, with no problems. When it came back to me each time I did the same on my bench with no problems. Then, each time, when I brought it to the operating QTH and put it on my antenna system, it failed in the same way. The supply voltage was doubly surge protected; the power supplies (different ones each time) included high-quality PowerWerx; the antennas are all resonant with SWRs below 1.3:1. The one common element, I finally realized, that was present with each failure but not with Don?s operating checks nor my bench checks was a remote antenna switch at my operating QTH which inserts its relay voltages into the RF feed line at the shack and picks it off at the remote relay box. On a hunch I looked at the voltages with a ?scope and there it was ? very high voltage transients with very short rise times, possibly attributable to the relays switching and the coil fields collapsing, though I confess the physics of it is above my pay grade. Inside the relay box I found no diodes and no capacitors across the relays that might have been used in the design to avoid this kind of problem. The one capacitor in series with the RF input at the shack end probably wasn?t doing much blocking with transients that fast. Although I have had no problem with a K3/KPA500 or a KX3/KXPA100 operating on the same system, the remote switch was the last remaining candidate for the repeated K2 PA failures. I have now discarded the Ameritron (MFJ) RCS-4 switch and replaced it with an Array Solutions ?RatPak 6?, which uses an independent multi-conductor cable for its relay voltages. This is now the second weekend operating with the RatPak. No problems with the K2, at last. I can?t prove it, but there is reason to believe that the K2 had been damaged on multiple occasions by a remote antenna switch that inserted its relay coil voltages into the RF coax and which had circuit features inadequate to protect against the voltage transients getting back into the RF feed. Never again. Ted, KN1CBR From lists at subich.com Sat May 21 12:34:51 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 12:34:51 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RX eq In-Reply-To: <3d9a9500-3a1b-21aa-e53e-2f47d87efc62@gmail.com> References: <0AAA2E37-8F50-48EE-AE34-3DF9E9380382@widomaker.com> <3d9a9500-3a1b-21aa-e53e-2f47d87efc62@gmail.com> Message-ID: <59892844-9f68-5fae-4515-376119643eb9@subich.com> On 5/21/2016 11:11 AM, Fred Moore wrote: > Well, that really sucks when you are moving between cw and other modes.. > oh well, hopefully it will be added.. thanks for the reply.. Fred What sucks? The K3/K3S stores separate RX EQ settings for CW and SSB. The appropriate setting is recalled based on the operating mode. I have: CW = -16, -16, 0, 0, 0, -6, -16, -16 and SSB = -16, -16, -6, 0, 0, +3, +5, -16 73, ... Joe, W4TV From rpfjeld at outlook.com Sat May 21 12:49:20 2016 From: rpfjeld at outlook.com (Richard Fjeld) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 11:49:20 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RX eq In-Reply-To: <59892844-9f68-5fae-4515-376119643eb9@subich.com> References: <0AAA2E37-8F50-48EE-AE34-3DF9E9380382@widomaker.com> <3d9a9500-3a1b-21aa-e53e-2f47d87efc62@gmail.com> <59892844-9f68-5fae-4515-376119643eb9@subich.com> Message-ID: I like to use my RX EQ settings to reduce noise from static. Dick, n0ce On 5/21/2016 11:34 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > > > On 5/21/2016 11:11 AM, Fred Moore wrote: >> Well, that really sucks when you are moving between cw and other modes.. >> oh well, hopefully it will be added.. thanks for the reply.. Fred > > What sucks? > > The K3/K3S stores separate RX EQ settings for CW and SSB. The > appropriate setting is recalled based on the operating mode. I have: > CW = -16, -16, 0, 0, 0, -6, -16, -16 and > SSB = -16, -16, -6, 0, 0, +3, +5, -16 > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Sat May 21 13:48:09 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 10:48:09 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RX eq In-Reply-To: <59892844-9f68-5fae-4515-376119643eb9@subich.com> References: <0AAA2E37-8F50-48EE-AE34-3DF9E9380382@widomaker.com> <3d9a9500-3a1b-21aa-e53e-2f47d87efc62@gmail.com> <59892844-9f68-5fae-4515-376119643eb9@subich.com> Message-ID: <57409F59.4020206@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Sat,5/21/2016 9:34 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > The K3/K3S stores separate RX EQ settings for CW and SSB. The > appropriate setting is recalled based on the operating mode. I have: > CW = -16, -16, 0, 0, 0, -6, -16, -16 and > SSB = -16, -16, -6, 0, 0, +3, +5, -16 Those are certainly valid settings for one way of operating. I choose to keep K3 RXEQ set flat for both modes. My reasoning for CW is I'm mainly a contester, so I want to hear off-frequency signals calling me at the reduced levels that result from the IF bandwidth I've set. On SSB, because I'm already limiting the LF response by setting of the IF bandwidth, and high frequency peaking tends to increase the audibility of splatter. But the important point is that there's no single setting that is "right" for everyone, or for every style of operating. I do things differently with the KX3, because the audio output stage is current-starved, so it doesn't have much headroom. So for the KX3, I roll off the three lowest bands on both modes (max cut), leaving the others set flat (no boost, no cut). I would suggest the same settings for the new KX2. 73, Jim K9YC From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Sat May 21 14:09:08 2016 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 21:09:08 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] RX eq In-Reply-To: <57409F59.4020206@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <0AAA2E37-8F50-48EE-AE34-3DF9E9380382@widomaker.com> <3d9a9500-3a1b-21aa-e53e-2f47d87efc62@gmail.com> <59892844-9f68-5fae-4515-376119643eb9@subich.com> <57409F59.4020206@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <749f14d7-8bd0-7620-e731-d430b468ebec@gmail.com> The RX EQ doesn't seem to do much for me on CW because I am already limiting the response by the DSP bandwidth. Normally I use 300-450 Hz for tuning around, and then narrow the bandwidth as needed for weak signals or QRM. My passband is centered at 520, so I don't hear the very low and high pitched signals anyway. If I am calling CQ and want a wider passband, then I wouldn't want to limit it further by using the EQ. I have tried various settings like Joe's below and I don't notice much if any effect. 73, Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO Rehovot, Israel http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 21 May 2016 20:48, Jim Brown wrote: > On Sat,5/21/2016 9:34 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: >> The K3/K3S stores separate RX EQ settings for CW and SSB. The >> appropriate setting is recalled based on the operating mode. I have: >> CW = -16, -16, 0, 0, 0, -6, -16, -16 and >> SSB = -16, -16, -6, 0, 0, +3, +5, -16 > > Those are certainly valid settings for one way of operating. I choose to > keep K3 RXEQ set flat for both modes. My reasoning for CW is I'm mainly > a contester, so I want to hear off-frequency signals calling me at the > reduced levels that result from the IF bandwidth I've set. On SSB, > because I'm already limiting the LF response by setting of the IF > bandwidth, and high frequency peaking tends to increase the audibility > of splatter. > > But the important point is that there's no single setting that is > "right" for everyone, or for every style of operating. > > I do things differently with the KX3, because the audio output stage is > current-starved, so it doesn't have much headroom. So for the KX3, I > roll off the three lowest bands on both modes (max cut), leaving the > others set flat (no boost, no cut). I would suggest the same settings > for the new KX2. > > 73, Jim K9YC From wd8kni at gmail.com Sat May 21 14:33:04 2016 From: wd8kni at gmail.com (Fred Moore) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 14:33:04 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RX eq In-Reply-To: <59892844-9f68-5fae-4515-376119643eb9@subich.com> References: <0AAA2E37-8F50-48EE-AE34-3DF9E9380382@widomaker.com> <3d9a9500-3a1b-21aa-e53e-2f47d87efc62@gmail.com> <59892844-9f68-5fae-4515-376119643eb9@subich.com> Message-ID: <9f1188c1-e5c1-1530-d126-a7b734fdf01d@gmail.com> Thanks for the input, missed the part that RxEQ was stored by mode, that solves my problem. I should have put KX3 in the subject, but works same on k3 and kx3.. solved... thanks.. -- Fred Moore Ham: WD8KNI Cell 321-217-8699 email: fred at fmeco.com From bob.novas at verizon.net Sat May 21 14:35:16 2016 From: bob.novas at verizon.net (Bob Novas) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 14:35:16 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Powering a k-pad from a K3S Message-ID: <003901d1b38f$854e9530$8febbf90$@verizon.net> Say, just for the sake of the argument, that I were to purchase a K-pad. If I want to power it from the K3S over the cable connected to the plug on the bottom of the K3S, do I have to modify the K3S to get power to the K-pad? If so, how much do I have to take apart? Would it make any sense to purchase any other stuff at this juncture because the K3S is going to be apart, like the KDV3? Thanks, Bob - W3DK From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Sat May 21 14:43:27 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 11:43:27 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Powering a k-pad from a K3S In-Reply-To: <003901d1b38f$854e9530$8febbf90$@verizon.net> References: <003901d1b38f$854e9530$8febbf90$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <0b18ffba-9a1b-8fb7-02cf-56f6378768b0@triconet.org> In the original announcement from Wayne: * flexible power source: rear 12-V jack on the radio, DC barrel jack, USB port, or even through the 6-pin data cable, with minor radio modification (the latter method results in a single cable to the K-Pod for data and power) On 5/21/2016 11:35 AM, Bob Novas wrote: > Say, just for the sake of the argument, that I were to purchase a K-pad. If > I want to power it from the K3S over the cable connected to the plug on the > bottom of the K3S, do I have to modify the K3S to get power to the K-pad? > If so, how much do I have to take apart? Would it make any sense to > purchase any other stuff at this juncture because the K3S is going to be > apart, like the KDV3? Thanks, Bob - W3DK > From bob.novas at verizon.net Sat May 21 15:10:25 2016 From: bob.novas at verizon.net (Bob Novas) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 15:10:25 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Powering a k-pad from a K3S In-Reply-To: <0b18ffba-9a1b-8fb7-02cf-56f6378768b0@triconet.org> References: <003901d1b38f$854e9530$8febbf90$@verizon.net> <0b18ffba-9a1b-8fb7-02cf-56f6378768b0@triconet.org> Message-ID: <003e01d1b394$6ecc75c0$4c656140$@verizon.net> Wes - "with minor radio modification" -well, that's kind of my question - exactly what does that entail, and how many screws do i have to unscrew to get there? Bob - W3DK > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wes > Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 2:43 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Powering a k-pad from a K3S > > In the original announcement from Wayne: > > * flexible power source: rear 12-V jack on the radio, DC barrel jack, > USB port, or even through the 6-pin data cable, with minor radio modification > (the latter method results in a single cable to the K-Pod for data and power) > > On 5/21/2016 11:35 AM, Bob Novas wrote: > > Say, just for the sake of the argument, that I were to purchase a > > K-pad. If I want to power it from the K3S over the cable connected to > > the plug on the bottom of the K3S, do I have to modify the K3S to get power to > the K-pad? > > If so, how much do I have to take apart? Would it make any sense to > > purchase any other stuff at this juncture because the K3S is going to be > > apart, like the KDV3? Thanks, Bob - W3DK > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to bob.novas at verizon.net From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Sat May 21 15:50:33 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 14:50:33 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Powering a k-pad from a K3S In-Reply-To: <003901d1b38f$854e9530$8febbf90$@verizon.net> References: <003901d1b38f$854e9530$8febbf90$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <5434040f-b8f3-07cd-0bbf-85cfe200150c@mediacombb.net> What's a K-Pad? Elecraft getting in the tablet business?:-) I know of a K-Pod. On 5/21/2016 1:35 PM, Bob Novas wrote: > Say, just for the sake of the argument, that I were to purchase a K-pad. If > I want to power it from the K3S over the cable connected to the plug on the > bottom of the K3S, do I have to modify the K3S to get power to the K-pad? > If so, how much do I have to take apart? Would it make any sense to > purchase any other stuff at this juncture because the K3S is going to be > apart, like the KDV3? Thanks, Bob - W3DK > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevin.stover at mediacombb.net > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From ron at cobi.biz Sat May 21 15:56:04 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 12:56:04 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 PA Failures and Remote Antenna Switch System In-Reply-To: <5E0510A0-127C-4131-8AA8-D22E9E766F16@law.du.edu> References: <5E0510A0-127C-4131-8AA8-D22E9E766F16@law.du.edu> Message-ID: <002501d1b39a$cefa7130$6cef5390$@biz> "The one capacitor in series with the RF input at the shack end probably wasn?t doing much blocking with transients that fast." That capacitor will block dc, but the spike caused by the field collapsing around the relay coil is NOT dc. It is a cycle of ac. The spike will be coupled through the capacitor almost as if the capacitor wasn't there. Depending upon the coil inductance, current, etc., the spike it produces can easily reach into the hundreds of volts. It's a brief spike, but plenty to do a lot of damage. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dauer, Edward Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 9:32 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K2 PA Failures and Remote Antenna Switch System For any who may be interested, the following is the resolution of a problem I had with a K2 that kept blowing its PA transistors ? events for which I requested help on this reflector, and about which many replied (thank you.) Following the build last Fall the K2 blew away its PA transistors the first time it was connected to my antenna system. And, after repair, the second time and the third time. It went back to Don W three times for diagnosis and replacement of the transistors and other PA circuit components that failed when the transistors did. Don could not find any reason why the failures were occurring. With each replacement he checked it out thoroughly, on one trip for a full week, with no problems. When it came back to me each time I did the same on my bench with no problems. Then, each time, when I brought it to the operating QTH and put it on my antenna system, it failed in the same way. The supply voltage was doubly surge protected; the power supplies (different ones each time) included high-quality PowerWerx; the antennas are all resonant with SWRs below 1.3:1. The one common element, I finally realized, that was present with each failure but not with Don?s operating checks nor my bench checks was a remote antenna switch at my operating QTH which inserts its relay voltages into the RF feed line at the shack and picks it off at the remote relay box. On a hunch I looked at the voltages with a ?scope and there it was ? very high voltage transients with very short rise times, possibly attributable to the relays switching and the coil fields collapsing, though I confess the physics of it is above my pay grade. Inside the relay box I found no diodes and no capacitors across the relays that might have been used in the design to avoid this kind of problem. The one capacitor in series with the RF input at the shack end probably wasn?t doing much blocking with transients that fast. Although I have had no problem with a K3/KPA500 or a KX3/KXPA100 operating on the same system, the remote switch was the last remaining candidate for the repeated K2 PA failures. I have now discarded the Ameritron (MFJ) RCS-4 switch and replaced it with an Array Solutions ?RatPak 6?, which uses an independent multi-conductor cable for its relay voltages. This is now the second weekend operating with the RatPak. No problems with the K2, at last. I can?t prove it, but there is reason to believe that the K2 had been damaged on multiple occasions by a remote antenna switch that inserted its relay coil voltages into the RF coax and which had circuit features inadequate to protect against the voltage transients getting back into the RF feed. Never again. Ted, KN1CBR From bob.novas at verizon.net Sat May 21 16:48:58 2016 From: bob.novas at verizon.net (Bob Novas) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 16:48:58 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Powering a k-pad from a K3S In-Reply-To: <5434040f-b8f3-07cd-0bbf-85cfe200150c@mediacombb.net> References: <003901d1b38f$854e9530$8febbf90$@verizon.net> <5434040f-b8f3-07cd-0bbf-85cfe200150c@mediacombb.net> Message-ID: <004801d1b3a2$331e1b60$995a5220$@verizon.net> I thought it should be called a K-nob. > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin > Stover > Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 3:51 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Powering a k-pad from a K3S > > What's a K-Pad? Elecraft getting in the tablet business?:-) I know of a K-Pod. > > On 5/21/2016 1:35 PM, Bob Novas wrote: > > Say, just for the sake of the argument, that I were to purchase a > > K-pad. If I want to power it from the K3S over the cable connected to > > the plug on the bottom of the K3S, do I have to modify the K3S to get power to > the K-pad? > > If so, how much do I have to take apart? Would it make any sense to > > purchase any other stuff at this juncture because the K3S is going to be > > apart, like the KDV3? Thanks, Bob - W3DK > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > > kevin.stover at mediacombb.net > > > > > -- > R. Kevin Stover > AC0H > ARRL > FISTS #11993 > SKCC #215 > NAQCC #3441 > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to bob.novas at verizon.net From kengkopp at gmail.com Sat May 21 16:57:32 2016 From: kengkopp at gmail.com (Ken G Kopp) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 14:57:32 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] "K-nob" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm sure Elecraft has a very valid reason for naming the thing as they have, but "K-nob" sure seems fitting and appropriate. (-:) 73 K0PP From josh at voodoolab.com Sat May 21 16:59:50 2016 From: josh at voodoolab.com (Josh Fiden) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 13:59:50 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 PA Failures and Remote Antenna Switch System In-Reply-To: <002501d1b39a$cefa7130$6cef5390$@biz> References: <5E0510A0-127C-4131-8AA8-D22E9E766F16@law.du.edu> <002501d1b39a$cefa7130$6cef5390$@biz> Message-ID: <5740CC46.3070300@voodoolab.com> Reviewing the schematic on Ameritron.com for RCS-4 there is a 220uF electrolytic across each relay coil. There are also a pair of diodes which will clamp the coil voltage, although it might not be immediately apparent since they're not directly across the coils. Unlikely that these parts are missing since they're not just clamps, but necessary for the selector to function. This does not look like any design flaw of the RCS-4. If I had to guess without seeing the hardware, it seems more likely that a failure occurred to cause hot switching of the antenna... if that was happening repeatedly, the finals wouldn't be happy! 73, Josh W6XU > Inside the relay box I found no diodes and no capacitors across the relays that might have been used in the design to avoid this kind of problem. From steven4lq at gmail.com Sat May 21 17:06:52 2016 From: steven4lq at gmail.com (Steve Ellington) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 17:06:52 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FS: P3 with SVGA 6mo. old Message-ID: Perfect P3 Panadapter for the K3/K3s complete with optional SVGA card. I have sold my K3S. I used this with a 29" monitor and it was awesome. This is only 6 months old. New price from Elecraft is $1070.00 for both. I am asking only $750 + shipping for both the P3 and the SVGA adptr. All cables and manual included of course. After using a panadapter you will never be satisfied without one. You have no idea how many signals you miss by tuning blind! PayPal accepted. Offers entertained. Steve n4LQ From lmarion at mt.net Sat May 21 17:17:38 2016 From: lmarion at mt.net (lmarion) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 15:17:38 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S receive antenna Message-ID: <16F58AF7F00F4ABA8654266C14E5E72C@LeroyPC> Can the K3S with antenna tuner installed receive on one antenna and transmit on another? Thanks Leroy From ron at cobi.biz Sat May 21 17:43:06 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 14:43:06 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Powering a k-pad from a K3S In-Reply-To: <004801d1b3a2$331e1b60$995a5220$@verizon.net> References: <003901d1b38f$854e9530$8febbf90$@verizon.net> <5434040f-b8f3-07cd-0bbf-85cfe200150c@mediacombb.net> <004801d1b3a2$331e1b60$995a5220$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <002601d1b3a9$c302a370$4907ea50$@biz> One of the Elecraft engineers floated that idea, but it didn't float. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob Novas Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 1:49 PM To: 'Kevin Stover'; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Powering a k-pad from a K3S I thought it should be called a K-nob. > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin > Stover > Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 3:51 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Powering a k-pad from a K3S > > What's a K-Pad? Elecraft getting in the tablet business?:-) I know of > a K-Pod. > > On 5/21/2016 1:35 PM, Bob Novas wrote: > > Say, just for the sake of the argument, that I were to purchase a > > K-pad. If I want to power it from the K3S over the cable connected > > to the plug on the bottom of the K3S, do I have to modify the K3S to > > get power to > the K-pad? > > If so, how much do I have to take apart? Would it make any sense to > > purchase any other stuff at this juncture because the K3S is going to be > > apart, like the KDV3? Thanks, Bob - W3DK > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this > > email > > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > > kevin.stover at mediacombb.net > > > > > -- > R. Kevin Stover > AC0H > ARRL > FISTS #11993 > SKCC #215 > NAQCC #3441 > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > bob.novas at verizon.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From fcady at montana.edu Sat May 21 18:31:41 2016 From: fcady at montana.edu (Cady, Fred) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 22:31:41 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S receive antenna In-Reply-To: <16F58AF7F00F4ABA8654266C14E5E72C@LeroyPC> References: <16F58AF7F00F4ABA8654266C14E5E72C@LeroyPC> Message-ID: The main receiver can listen on the transmit antenna selected by the ATU or the separate receiver antenna input. The sub-receiver can listen on the same antenna as the main receiver or the other antenna on the ATU or the separate AUX antenna input (requires a connection change in the K3S). Cheers, Fred KE7X For all KE7X Elecraft books, see www.ke7x.com (PS: A KX2 book is coming) ________________________________________ From: Elecraft on behalf of lmarion Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 3:17 PM To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3S receive antenna Can the K3S with antenna tuner installed receive on one antenna and transmit on another? Thanks Leroy ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to fcady at montana.edu From mwdink at yahoo.com Sat May 21 18:43:36 2016 From: mwdink at yahoo.com (Michael Dinkelman) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 22:43:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 and KPod? References: <2046594996.451222.1463870616556.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2046594996.451222.1463870616556.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I expect the answer is no but seeing the smaller VFO knob and single function keyon the KX2, will the KX2 and KPod ever work together? dink,n7wa From nr4c at widomaker.com Sat May 21 18:45:53 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 18:45:53 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] "K-nob" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's a lot more than a "knob"! More like a "key-pad" with a Knob. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 21, 2016, at 4:57 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote: > > I'm sure Elecraft has a very valid reason for naming the thing as they > have, but "K-nob" sure seems fitting and appropriate. (-:) > > 73 > > K0PP > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From nr4c at widomaker.com Sat May 21 18:53:18 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 18:53:18 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S receive antenna In-Reply-To: <16F58AF7F00F4ABA8654266C14E5E72C@LeroyPC> References: <16F58AF7F00F4ABA8654266C14E5E72C@LeroyPC> Message-ID: Yes. You have a BNC antenna jack labeled REC ANT I believe. Use it for REC antenna. It is disabled while transmitting and is not in the TX path so you can't hurt anything. It is located on rear of radio and is most left of the bank of 5 below the audio jacks. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 21, 2016, at 5:17 PM, lmarion wrote: > > Can the K3S with antenna tuner installed receive on one antenna and transmit on another? > > Thanks Leroy > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From steven4lq at gmail.com Sat May 21 18:59:27 2016 From: steven4lq at gmail.com (Steve Ellington) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 18:59:27 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 with SVGA SOLD Message-ID: The P3 I listed here is now sold. 73 to all. Steve N4LQ From k2av.guy at gmail.com Sat May 21 20:04:14 2016 From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 20:04:14 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S receive antenna In-Reply-To: References: <16F58AF7F00F4ABA8654266C14E5E72C@LeroyPC> Message-ID: If one is not contemplating 2 meters, there is a way to listen on both ANT1 and ANT2. The antenna tuner has a miniature TMP jack for the "other" ant. If you have selected ANT1 with the ANT button then the ANT2 SO239 is connected to the "other" jack. If you have selected ANT2 with the ANT button then the ANT1 SO239 is connected to the "other" jack. The "other" jack is RF protected with circuitry on the antenna tuner board. The problem with using it with no further work, is that you have to "trade" another input path for it. But there is a mechanically simple way to work around that without using any soldering irons or cutting anything. On my K3 I installed the fan panel for the 2 meter option, which has the ANT3 marked hole for a BNC. Then I installed a cable, TMP male on one end with BNC chassis female on the other. I ran the cable from the antenna tuner's "other" jack to the ANT3 marked hole. This brings the "other" jack on the antenna tuner out to the back plane on a BNC jack. The plate with the ANT3 BNC mounting hole and TMP male to female BNC chassis core are both available as parts from Elecraft. Once you've done that, you can use a BNC jumper to (A) go from ANT3 BNC jack to either RX ANT IN BNC jack for use by the main RX or (B) the AUX RF BNC jack for use by the subRX. With the (A) connection, a tap on the RX ANT button switches the main RX between the main TX ant and whatever is on the "other" antenna. With the (B) connection a long tap on the RX ANT button switches the subRX between the main TX ant and whatever is on the "other" antenna. Using in one connection does not prevent you from simply changing it as the need arises. I have used that arrangement to listen in diversity to both sides of a 90 degree X oriented pair of dipoles connected to ANT1 and ANT2. It works for other antennas as well. In that arrangement, the left ear is always on the transmitting antenna. If you hear it better on the right ear, you have to tap the ANT button to move it to the left ear, and then you will be transmitting on the antenna you heard the station best. For 160m fixed RX antennas and diversity, a 6x2 RX antenna switch will allow any combination of antennas in diversity RX with the "other"/ANT3 mod. Cable the AUX RF and RX ANT IN to the x2 jacks on the switch. Cable RX ANT OUT and ANT3 to two of the 6x side of the switch. Cable other RX antennas to remaining jacks on the 6x side of the switch. Once the "other" to ANT3 connection is made, all the above can be done, other arrangements invented, swapped in and out without any further mod to the K3/K3S. If it were me, I would supply the K3S already wired that way. Then to add the KXV144 just move the TMP end of the cable from the tuner to the xverter. 73, Guy K2AV On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Cady, Fred wrote: > The main receiver can listen on the transmit antenna selected by the ATU > or the separate receiver antenna input. > The sub-receiver can listen on the same antenna as the main receiver or > the other antenna on the ATU or the separate AUX antenna input (requires a > connection change in the K3S). > Cheers, > Fred KE7X > > For all KE7X Elecraft books, see www.ke7x.com > (PS: A KX2 book is coming) > > ________________________________________ > From: Elecraft on behalf of lmarion < > lmarion at mt.net> > Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 3:17 PM > To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] K3S receive antenna > > Can the K3S with antenna tuner installed receive on one antenna and > transmit on another? > > Thanks Leroy > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to fcady at montana.edu > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2av.guy at gmail.com > From steven4lq at gmail.com Sat May 21 21:13:47 2016 From: steven4lq at gmail.com (Steve Ellington) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 21:13:47 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FS: SP-3 Elecraft Speakers Message-ID: I have a pair of SP-3 speakers for sale. Your K3 / K3s deserves the best and these speakers were designed by Dr. Bruce Edgar to provide proper audio reproduction for voice and cw communication. http://www.elecraft.com/K3/sp3_1a.jpg They are in perfect condition except for one tiny scratch on the top toward the rear on one speaker. These sell new for $180 each! I'm asking only $199.95 for the pair! You add shipping. PayPal Please Steve N4LQ From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Sat May 21 22:01:46 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 19:01:46 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Equalizer comment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5741130A.9000309@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Sat,5/21/2016 7:54 AM, Richard Fjeld wrote: > I was asked to help a ham get the transmit audio on his new import > equalized. What an experience! How did you use the P3 to do this? 73, Jim K9YC From n6kr at elecraft.com Sat May 21 22:05:21 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 22:05:21 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] To new KX2 owners Message-ID: <659B8039-4A05-4844-B70C-35833A16724C@elecraft.com> Hi all, If you were among those who scooped up (in record time) the KX2s we brought to Dayton: thanks for your enthusiastic response! (Wish we'd brought more :) I know many of you have already unboxes the radios and are putting them on the air. If you have early questions or comments, feel free to send them to me directly, and/or post here. There are many knowledgable KX2 field testers lurking on our lists, including some top-flight SOTA operators. Trivia question: what's the closest SOTA peak to Hara Arena? 73, Wayne N6KR ---- http://www.elecraft.com From john at kk9a.com Sat May 21 22:15:44 2016 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 22:15:44 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Powering a k-pad from a K3S Message-ID: <000001d1b3cf$d93311e0$8b9935a0$@com> Yes you have to modify the K3S. Check the archives, this was answered last month by Wayne. I reposted a portion of his answer below: John KK9A You need to solder one end of an 1/8th-watt resistor to an SMD, and the other end to a via nearby. Or you could send it to us to do the work. Wayne N6KR From:Bob Novas Sat May 21 14:35:16 EDT 2016 Say, just for the sake of the argument, that I were to purchase a K-pad. If I want to power it from the K3S over the cable connected to the plug on the bottom of the K3S, do I have to modify the K3S to get power to the K-pad? If so, how much do I have to take apart? Would it make any sense to purchase any other stuff at this juncture because the K3S is going to be apart, like the KDV3? Thanks, Bob - W3DK From kd6qzx at sbcglobal.net Sat May 21 22:42:29 2016 From: kd6qzx at sbcglobal.net (KD6QZX) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 19:42:29 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] To new KX2 owners In-Reply-To: <659B8039-4A05-4844-B70C-35833A16724C@elecraft.com> References: <659B8039-4A05-4844-B70C-35833A16724C@elecraft.com> Message-ID: Campbell hill is closed SOTA thanks for the cool little HF rig. Scott AK6Q > On May 21, 2016, at 10:07 PM, wayne burdick [via Elecraft] wrote: > > Hi all, > > If you were among those who scooped up (in record time) the KX2s we brought to Dayton: thanks for your enthusiastic response! (Wish we'd brought more :) > > I know many of you have already unboxes the radios and are putting them on the air. If you have early questions or comments, feel free to send them to me directly, and/or post here. There are many knowledgable KX2 field testers lurking on our lists, including some top-flight SOTA operators. > > Trivia question: what's the closest SOTA peak to Hara Arena? > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > ---- > http://www.elecraft.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/To-new-KX2-owners-tp7617734.html > To unsubscribe from Elecraft, click here. > NAML ----- K3 #348 KX3 #2499 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/To-new-KX2-owners-tp7617734p7617736.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From n6kr at elecraft.com Sat May 21 22:43:16 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 22:43:16 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] To new KX2 owners In-Reply-To: <140F7295-3746-4EB5-8BB2-8770869DEAA0@Dupuie.com> References: <659B8039-4A05-4844-B70C-35833A16724C@elecraft.com> <140F7295-3746-4EB5-8BB2-8770869DEAA0@Dupuie.com> Message-ID: <22D00880-886B-42FA-9562-07929EFF9C7B@elecraft.com> ---- http://www.elecraft.com > On May 21, 2016, at 10:28 PM, "Scott Dupuie Yahoo at Dupuie.com [KX3]" wrote: > > W8O/SW-012 - Hamilton County HP > > > Closest by one mile. Next is W8O/CT-001. > > Do I win a new KX2? > > Scott > AK5SD No, sorry. I was hoping to sneak out to activate it ;) Wayne > >> On May 21, 2016, at 9:05 PM, Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com [KX3] wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> If you were among those who scooped up (in record time) the KX2s we brought to Dayton: thanks for your enthusiastic response! (Wish we'd brought more :) >> >> I know many of you have already unboxes the radios and are putting them on the air. If you have early questions or comments, feel free to send them to me directly, and/or post here. There are many knowledgable KX2 field testers lurking on our lists, including some top-flight SOTA operators. >> >> Trivia question: what's the closest SOTA peak to Hara Arena? >> >> 73, >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> ---- >> http://www.elecraft.com >> > > __._,_.___ > Posted by: Scott Dupuie > Reply via web post ? Reply to sender ? Reply to group ? Start a New Topic ? Messages in this topic (2) > > Upgrade your account with the latest Yahoo Mail app > Get organized with the fast and easy-to-use Yahoo Mail app. Upgrade today! > > VISIT YOUR GROUP New Members 11 New Photos 1 > ? Privacy ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use > . > > > __,_._,___ From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sat May 21 22:45:22 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 22:45:22 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S receive antenna In-Reply-To: <16F58AF7F00F4ABA8654266C14E5E72C@LeroyPC> References: <16F58AF7F00F4ABA8654266C14E5E72C@LeroyPC> Message-ID: <57411D42.7010906@embarqmail.com> Leroy, The answer is "yes", but how to do it depends on your K3S physical configuration. If you only have the main receiver (no subRX), you can transmit on ANT1 or ANT2, and connect a receive only antenna to the ANT IN BNC connector in the rear (set of 5 BNC jacks). Select RX ANT. If you have the SubRX installed, things get a bit more complicated, and it depends partly on how you have the subRX AUX input connected and whether the subRX is set to share the antenna with the main or whether it is set to use its AUX input. If the subRX AUX input TMP cable is connected to the TMP jack on the KAT3, then the AUX input for the subRX will be from the non-transmit antenna - in other words, if the main is set to transmit on ANT1, the SubRX will listen to ANT2 (assuming the subRX is set to use its AUX input). OTOH, if the AUX input for the SubRX is connected to the BNC AUX input, then a receive antenna can be connected to the BNC AUX jack and the subRX will listen to that RX antenna when the subRX is set to use its AUX input. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/21/2016 5:17 PM, lmarion wrote: > Can the K3S with antenna tuner installed receive on one antenna and transmit on another? > > From n6mql at arrl.net Sat May 21 22:58:11 2016 From: n6mql at arrl.net (N6MQL) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 19:58:11 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne Message-ID: <4AAD7A8D-1FFD-4625-A8DE-CAE515B325D6@arrl.net> Wayne, 2 things... First I mentioned to David S in the service department that the K3 is no longer transmitting more than 94 watts out on 17 meters regardless of the SWR/ impedance. David said that this was a known issue due to software and that it was being worked on. However I haven't seen anything about this issue so I'm wondering if this is true and if so has there been any updates to fix it. Secondly, I'm noticing that my KXPA100 can not produce more that 80 watts on most bands and 60 on others when I don't supply it with as much as 15v DC on a 30 amp supply. This after I did the KX3 / KPXA calibration procedure. Why is it that a "mobile" amp that would normally be powered with 12v DC from a car battery not be able to provide the power output that it is sold as (100 watts)?. Has there been some kind of revisions to the first run boards that I should be exchanging them with? Thank you for your answers 73 Mike N6MQL From kengkopp at gmail.com Sat May 21 23:11:30 2016 From: kengkopp at gmail.com (Ken G Kopp) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 21:11:30 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne In-Reply-To: <4AAD7A8D-1FFD-4625-A8DE-CAE515B325D6@arrl.net> References: <4AAD7A8D-1FFD-4625-A8DE-CAE515B325D6@arrl.net> Message-ID: Mike, A normal "12V" battery in a vehicle is almost never at 12V. About 14.4 when the engine is running, and about 13.8 after when not under charge. A battery measuring "12V" is suspect. Read the specified input voltage AT THE POWER INPUT connector ... I'll wager it's lower than what's called for in the manual. From edauer at law.du.edu Sun May 22 00:05:40 2016 From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 04:05:40 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 PA Failures and Remote Antenna Switch Message-ID: Josh ? Thanks for looking further into it. I looked pretty carefully before the RCS-4 went into the trash - no electrolytics in the relay box that I could see. Maybe a manufacturing defect rather than a design defect? But it?s in a landfill somewhere now so I can?t confirm that. In my profession a skeptic might call that spoliation of the evidence. But the traces on the ?scope as I switched through the selector with no transmitter attached were unmistakable - very large very fast transient spikes. Not a good thing, whatever the cause. I wonder if the diodes that are in the RCS-4 system are actually being used as flyback or suppressor diodes. The RCS-4 power supply is low voltage AC, not DC. The diodes in the control box separate the positive half cycle from the negative half cycle; as I read it the diodes that are in the relay box select for each relay the half cycle they like, telling the relays to do what the control switch says it asked them to do given that there is but one relay voltage conductor - the center lead of the RF coax. Would they work double-duty as flybacks in that configuration? Pardon the anthropomorphisms - I have already confessed my intellectual limitations in the field. Hot switching is a theoretical possibility but if that means an operator-induced lack of synchrony between keying the TX and switching the antennas, I choose to believe it unlikely. And failures three times and every time and only when on that antenna system but not on any other? Improbable, I would think. In any case, the system that used the RF coax for the antenna relay voltages is no longer here. When it was here, I had repeated and rather expensive PA blowups. As soon as it left everything worked just right. Reverting to my other profession?s argot, that?s a correlation that implies causation. Lots of human behavior has been built on less. Anyway, life is good again. My K2 is happy. The people who sold me the new remote switch probably are too. Ted, KN1CBR > >------------------------------ > >Message: 17 >Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 13:59:50 -0700 >From: Josh Fiden >To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 PA Failures and Remote Antenna Switch > System >Message-ID: <5740CC46.3070300 at voodoolab.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > >Reviewing the schematic on Ameritron.com for RCS-4 there is a 220uF >electrolytic across each relay coil. There are also a pair of diodes >which will clamp the coil voltage, although it might not be immediately >apparent since they're not directly across the coils. Unlikely that >these parts are missing since they're not just clamps, but necessary for >the selector to function. > >This does not look like any design flaw of the RCS-4. If I had to guess >without seeing the hardware, it seems more likely that a failure >occurred to cause hot switching of the antenna... if that was happening >repeatedly, the finals wouldn't be happy! > >73, >Josh W6XU > >> Inside the relay box I found no diodes and no capacitors across the >>relays that might have been used in the design to avoid this kind of >>problem. > From rpfjeld at outlook.com Sun May 22 00:33:46 2016 From: rpfjeld at outlook.com (Richard Fjeld) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 23:33:46 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Equalizer comment In-Reply-To: <5741130A.9000309@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <5741130A.9000309@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: By looking at how his signal filled out the voice band in the waterfall, and also the pattern of it on the display. It is a crude test using a person's voice. Audio reports were the final test. He wasn't able to adjust it by monitoring his own voice. It would be better if the transmitting station had something like an AF generator audibly coupled to the microphone to do a freq run within the voice band at a constant audio level. Dick, n0ce On 5/21/2016 9:01 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > On Sat,5/21/2016 7:54 AM, Richard Fjeld wrote: >> I was asked to help a ham get the transmit audio on his new import >> equalized. What an experience! > > How did you use the P3 to do this? > > 73, Jim K9YC > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rpfjeld at outlook.com From josh at voodoolab.com Sun May 22 02:33:59 2016 From: josh at voodoolab.com (Josh Fiden) Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 23:33:59 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 PA Failures and Remote Antenna Switch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <574152D7.9050005@voodoolab.com> Hi Ted, I see that you're right about no big caps on two of the relays. I was looking at the current version schematic, but there's an older one posted on W8JI's site with a completely different arrangement which must be what you had. That older circuit design is less than clever (IMHO). When a relay is deenergized, the steering diodes & part of the bridge are all forward biased forming a clamp of sorts. Not as effective as if a diode were directly across the coil with short leads. I did not mean to imply operator error as the cause of failure. I was guessing hot switching the antenna related to some intermittent hardware problem. Glad you found the source of the problem. Sounds like you put that old RCS-4 right where it belongs! 73, Josh W6XU On 5/21/2016 9:05 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote: > Josh ? > > Thanks for looking further into it. I looked pretty carefully before the > RCS-4 went into the trash - no electrolytics in the relay box that I could > see. Maybe a manufacturing defect rather than a design defect? But it?s > in a landfill somewhere now so I can?t confirm that. In my profession a > skeptic might call that spoliation of the evidence. But the traces on the > ?scope as I switched through the selector with no transmitter attached > were unmistakable - very large very fast transient spikes. Not a good > thing, whatever the cause. > > I wonder if the diodes that are in the RCS-4 system are actually being > used as flyback or suppressor diodes. The RCS-4 power supply is low > voltage AC, not DC. The diodes in the control box separate the positive > half cycle from the negative half cycle; as I read it the diodes that are > in the relay box select for each relay the half cycle they like, telling > the relays to do what the control switch says it asked them to do given > that there is but one relay voltage conductor - the center lead of the RF > coax. Would they work double-duty as flybacks in that configuration? > Pardon the anthropomorphisms - I have already confessed my intellectual > limitations in the field. > > Hot switching is a theoretical possibility but if that means an > operator-induced lack of synchrony between keying the TX and switching the > antennas, I choose to believe it unlikely. And failures three times and > every time and only when on that antenna system but not on any other? > Improbable, I would think. > > In any case, the system that used the RF coax for the antenna relay > voltages is no longer here. When it was here, I had repeated and rather > expensive PA blowups. As soon as it left everything worked just right. > Reverting to my other profession?s argot, that?s a correlation that > implies causation. Lots of human behavior has been built on less. > > Anyway, life is good again. My K2 is happy. The people who sold me the > new remote switch probably are too. > > Ted, KN1CBR > From jwebsterlsu at gmail.com Sun May 22 03:01:39 2016 From: jwebsterlsu at gmail.com (John W Webster) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 00:01:39 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Weekly SSB Net Message-ID: <2613B6B1-937D-419E-BB85-C7BE171696AD@gmail.com> Please consider joining us for the weekly Sunday Elecraft SSB net on 20m. Time: 18:00z (UTC) 11am Pacific; 2pm Eastern Frequency: 14.303.5 We would love to have the first KX2 checkin from wherever you are (Dayton even!) Current net control, Eric WB9JNZ sent the following list of check-ins over the last two weeks with particularly difficult propagation. 73 John, N6JW Elecraft Net 5-15-16 WB9JNZ Eric IL K3 4017 Net Control NSRC CLUB MEMBER W4RKS Jim TX K3 3618 KG5ABW Ed MI Yaesu ft 1200 1st time check in W8OV Dave TX K3 3139 N9TF Gene IL K3S 10057 N6JW John CA K3 936 K5ZCJ Larry OK K3S 10032 NC0JW Jim CO K3 1356 K1NW Brian RI K3 4974 KC9USC Robert IL KX3 4460 NSRC CLUB MEMBER KK6DA David CA K3S 10125 W4DML Doug TN K3 6433 NS7P Phil OR K3 1826 K6WDE Dave CA KX3 4599 W0CZ Ken ND K3S 10329 W7QHD Kurt AZ K2 1538 N9DC/M Maurice IN IC 7000 WM6P Steve GA K3 8133 KE7HGE Ken WA KX3 4540 QRP N4NRW Roger SC K3 1318 K7BRR Bill AZ K3 5545 VA7ZOO Bill BC KX3 3035 QRP K6VDN John NV KX3 8046 Elecraft Net 5-8-16 WB9JNZ Eric IL K3 4017 Net Control NM7J Steve NV K3 2105 K5ZCJ Larry OK K3S 10032 NC0JW Jim CO K3 1356 WB5JJA Ray OK K3 7877 W7SNR Bob AZ K3 343 W2RWA Dick NY K3 2603 KK6DA David CA K3S 10125 W4RKS Jim TX K3 3618 N6JW John CA K3 936 KD6SBK Bruce AZ FT 857 W7QHD Kurt AZ K2 1538 AE7MX August AZ unknown radio N9SRA Steve IL K3S 10563 NSRC CLUB MEMBER K6WDE Dave CA KX3 4599 K7BRR Bill AZ K3 5545 From ke6te.9 at gmail.com Sun May 22 09:08:00 2016 From: ke6te.9 at gmail.com (George Rebong) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 06:08:00 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] For sale P3-SVGA-Monitor Message-ID: Selling my Elecraft P3 High performance Panadaptor with P3SVGA Video Adapter and P3TXMON TX Monitor Power and Waveform Display Adapter with DCHF-2000 1.8-54 MHz, 1- 2000W HF 2000W Max directional coupler. $950 includes shipping to CONUS. Non Smoker. Paypal or USPS money order. George KE6TE Call 916-600-2717. Sent from my iPad From steven4lq at gmail.com Sun May 22 09:27:57 2016 From: steven4lq at gmail.com (Steve Ellington) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 09:27:57 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] SP-3 Speakers SOLD Message-ID: They're gone. Thanks to the multitude who replied! N4LQ From ormandj at corenode.com Sun May 22 10:52:14 2016 From: ormandj at corenode.com (David Orman) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 09:52:14 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne In-Reply-To: <4AAD7A8D-1FFD-4625-A8DE-CAE515B325D6@arrl.net> References: <4AAD7A8D-1FFD-4625-A8DE-CAE515B325D6@arrl.net> Message-ID: Another question - how long/what gauge is the wire running to your KXPA100? I wouldn't expect enough drop to pull your voltage down to a point at which it cuts back power, but you never know. Check your KX3 for the source voltage when transmitting, that'll tell you if you're dropping below the threshold for power reduction. For example, 16 gauge copper will drop about 1.2 volts on a 10 foot run @ 15A current draw. On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 9:58 PM, N6MQL wrote: > Wayne, > > 2 things... First I mentioned to David S in the service department that > the K3 is no longer transmitting more than 94 watts out on 17 meters > regardless of the SWR/ impedance. David said that this was a known issue > due to software and that it was being worked on. However I haven't seen > anything about this issue so I'm wondering if this is true and if so has > there been any updates to fix it. > Secondly, I'm noticing that my KXPA100 can not produce more that 80 watts > on most bands and 60 on others when I don't supply it with as much as 15v > DC on a 30 amp supply. This after I did the KX3 / KPXA calibration > procedure. Why is it that a "mobile" amp that would normally be powered > with 12v DC from a car battery not be able to provide the power output that > it is sold as (100 watts)?. Has there been some kind of revisions to the > first run boards that I should be exchanging them with? > > Thank you for your answers 73 > > Mike > N6MQL > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ormandj at corenode.com > From nr4c at widomaker.com Sun May 22 11:40:43 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 11:40:43 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne In-Reply-To: References: <4AAD7A8D-1FFD-4625-A8DE-CAE515B325D6@arrl.net> Message-ID: Or just use the Voltage reading displayed on the K3/KX3 front panel. It's quite accurate. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 22, 2016, at 10:52 AM, David Orman wrote: > > Another question - how long/what gauge is the wire running to your KXPA100? > I wouldn't expect enough drop to pull your voltage down to a point at which > it cuts back power, but you never know. Check your KX3 for the source > voltage when transmitting, that'll tell you if you're dropping below the > threshold for power reduction. For example, 16 gauge copper will drop about > 1.2 volts on a 10 foot run @ 15A current draw. > >> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 9:58 PM, N6MQL wrote: >> >> Wayne, >> >> 2 things... First I mentioned to David S in the service department that >> the K3 is no longer transmitting more than 94 watts out on 17 meters >> regardless of the SWR/ impedance. David said that this was a known issue >> due to software and that it was being worked on. However I haven't seen >> anything about this issue so I'm wondering if this is true and if so has >> there been any updates to fix it. >> Secondly, I'm noticing that my KXPA100 can not produce more that 80 watts >> on most bands and 60 on others when I don't supply it with as much as 15v >> DC on a 30 amp supply. This after I did the KX3 / KPXA calibration >> procedure. Why is it that a "mobile" amp that would normally be powered >> with 12v DC from a car battery not be able to provide the power output that >> it is sold as (100 watts)?. Has there been some kind of revisions to the >> first run boards that I should be exchanging them with? >> >> Thank you for your answers 73 >> >> Mike >> N6MQL >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ormandj at corenode.com >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From bob at hogbytes.com Sun May 22 11:58:12 2016 From: bob at hogbytes.com (Bob N3MNT) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 08:58:12 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne In-Reply-To: References: <4AAD7A8D-1FFD-4625-A8DE-CAE515B325D6@arrl.net> Message-ID: <1463932692247-7617749.post@n2.nabble.com> I noticed that my KXPA100 output was a little low so I checked the output of my 30A supply. It was a little low. I adjusted it up from 13.6V to 14.0 and all is well. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-and-KX3-questions-for-Wayne-tp7617739p7617749.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ae5x at juno.com Sun May 22 12:05:24 2016 From: ae5x at juno.com (ae5x at juno.com) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 16:05:24 GMT Subject: [Elecraft] [KX2] To new KX2 owners Message-ID: <20160522.110524.8314.0@webmail51.vgs.untd.com> I'm glad you left some back in Aptos so that us stay-at-homes had stock from which to order :-) John AE5X http://ae5x.blogspot.com/ _________________________________________ >If you were among those who scooped up (in record time) the KX2s we brought to Dayton: thanks for your enthusiastic response! (Wish we'd brought more :) ____________________________________________________________ The New York Times Finding Love Again, This Time With A Man http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5741d8ef922e758ef57a0st03vuc From ka9zap at gmail.com Sun May 22 13:19:22 2016 From: ka9zap at gmail.com (Art Nienhouse) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 12:19:22 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne In-Reply-To: <4AAD7A8D-1FFD-4625-A8DE-CAE515B325D6@arrl.net> References: <4AAD7A8D-1FFD-4625-A8DE-CAE515B325D6@arrl.net> Message-ID: <5741EA1A.1070504@gmail.com> */My experience with my KXPA-100 that the power output would not ever get to the advertised 100 watts on 40 meters using the supplied power cable that came with my kit was worse. Even after setting the 45 amp power supply to the highest out put it would do, the radio reported 13.8 volts on receive, on key down it would drop well below ( on some bands ) to 12 volts. After replacing the pwr cable with a 10 gauge wire the supply reported at the radio is 14.5 rx, tx is 13.8 the power output is at 100 watts most bands 110 on one band and the only band I really care about is 40 where it always has been below the other bands is now at 99 to 100 watts. I believe that there was a firmware update that made this issue worse as it was at one time doing around 80 to 85 watts on 40 meters which I was living with, most other bands 100 to 110 watts, using the supplied power cable that came with my kit. If its sold as a mobile amp then it should be capable of doing the advertised 100 watts ....at 12 volts.... ......( I know the advertizing stated at 13.8 volts ) ......to achieve the 100 watts. To be completely truthful it should be stated what can be expected for power out at 12 v connected to a car deep cycle battery with the supplied power cable...mine did 60 watts on 40 meters with the latest bata firmware. At the very least a ( quality 10 gauge power cable ) should be supplied with the amp, and all 100 watt output radios. I took the advice of this group to purchase Powerwerx Red/Black power cable not the cheapest however quality is very good. With my power supply set to 14.4 volts I get the advertized 100 watts now. Regards Art ka9zap /* On 5/21/2016 9:58 PM, N6MQL wrote: > Wayne, > > 2 things... First I mentioned to David S in the service department that the K3 is no longer transmitting more than 94 watts out on 17 meters regardless of the SWR/ impedance. David said that this was a known issue due to software and that it was being worked on. However I haven't seen anything about this issue so I'm wondering if this is true and if so has there been any updates to fix it. > Secondly, I'm noticing that my KXPA100 can not produce more that 80 watts on most bands and 60 on others when I don't supply it with as much as 15v DC on a 30 amp supply. This after I did the KX3 / KPXA calibration procedure. Why is it that a "mobile" amp that would normally be powered with 12v DC from a car battery not be able to provide the power output that it is sold as (100 watts)?. Has there been some kind of revisions to the first run boards that I should be exchanging them with? > > Thank you for your answers 73 > > Mike > N6MQL > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ka9zap at gmail.com From kengkopp at gmail.com Sun May 22 13:52:32 2016 From: kengkopp at gmail.com (Ken G Kopp) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 11:52:32 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne In-Reply-To: References: <4AAD7A8D-1FFD-4625-A8DE-CAE515B325D6@arrl.net> Message-ID: Bill, The front panel voltage display on a KX3 will -not- be accurate for the voltage at the input- power connector of the KXPA100. This voltage must be measured AT THE CONNECTOR on the rear of the KXPA100 to know what's being delivered to the PA. 73! K0PP On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Nr4c wrote: > Or just use the Voltage reading displayed on the K3/KX3 front panel. It's > quite accurate. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > > > On May 22, 2016, at 10:52 AM, David Orman wrote: > > > > Another question - how long/what gauge is the wire running to your > KXPA100? > > I wouldn't expect enough drop to pull your voltage down to a point at > which > > it cuts back power, but you never know. Check your KX3 for the source > > voltage when transmitting, that'll tell you if you're dropping below the > > threshold for power reduction. For example, 16 gauge copper will drop > about > > 1.2 volts on a 10 foot run @ 15A current draw. > > > >> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 9:58 PM, N6MQL wrote: > >> > >> Wayne, > >> > >> 2 things... First I mentioned to David S in the service department that > >> the K3 is no longer transmitting more than 94 watts out on 17 meters > >> regardless of the SWR/ impedance. David said that this was a known issue > >> due to software and that it was being worked on. However I haven't seen > >> anything about this issue so I'm wondering if this is true and if so has > >> there been any updates to fix it. > >> Secondly, I'm noticing that my KXPA100 can not produce more that 80 > watts > >> on most bands and 60 on others when I don't supply it with as much as > 15v > >> DC on a 30 amp supply. This after I did the KX3 / KPXA calibration > >> procedure. Why is it that a "mobile" amp that would normally be powered > >> with 12v DC from a car battery not be able to provide the power output > that > >> it is sold as (100 watts)?. Has there been some kind of revisions to the > >> first run boards that I should be exchanging them with? > >> > >> Thank you for your answers 73 > >> > >> Mike > >> N6MQL > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> Message delivered to ormandj at corenode.com > >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kengkopp at gmail.com > From wunder at wunderwood.org Sun May 22 14:13:26 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 11:13:26 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne In-Reply-To: References: <4AAD7A8D-1FFD-4625-A8DE-CAE515B325D6@arrl.net> Message-ID: According to the manual, you can use the KXPA Utility to read the voltmeter inside the KXPA100. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On May 22, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Ken G Kopp wrote: > > Bill, > > The front panel voltage display on a KX3 will -not- be accurate > for the voltage at the input- power connector of the KXPA100. > This voltage must be measured AT THE CONNECTOR on the > rear of the KXPA100 to know what's being delivered to the PA. > > 73! > > K0PP > > On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Nr4c wrote: > >> Or just use the Voltage reading displayed on the K3/KX3 front panel. It's >> quite accurate. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ...nr4c. bill >> >> >>> On May 22, 2016, at 10:52 AM, David Orman wrote: >>> >>> Another question - how long/what gauge is the wire running to your >> KXPA100? >>> I wouldn't expect enough drop to pull your voltage down to a point at >> which >>> it cuts back power, but you never know. Check your KX3 for the source >>> voltage when transmitting, that'll tell you if you're dropping below the >>> threshold for power reduction. For example, 16 gauge copper will drop >> about >>> 1.2 volts on a 10 foot run @ 15A current draw. >>> >>>> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 9:58 PM, N6MQL wrote: >>>> >>>> Wayne, >>>> >>>> 2 things... First I mentioned to David S in the service department that >>>> the K3 is no longer transmitting more than 94 watts out on 17 meters >>>> regardless of the SWR/ impedance. David said that this was a known issue >>>> due to software and that it was being worked on. However I haven't seen >>>> anything about this issue so I'm wondering if this is true and if so has >>>> there been any updates to fix it. >>>> Secondly, I'm noticing that my KXPA100 can not produce more that 80 >> watts >>>> on most bands and 60 on others when I don't supply it with as much as >> 15v >>>> DC on a 30 amp supply. This after I did the KX3 / KPXA calibration >>>> procedure. Why is it that a "mobile" amp that would normally be powered >>>> with 12v DC from a car battery not be able to provide the power output >> that >>>> it is sold as (100 watts)?. Has there been some kind of revisions to the >>>> first run boards that I should be exchanging them with? >>>> >>>> Thank you for your answers 73 >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> N6MQL >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to ormandj at corenode.com >>>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to kengkopp at gmail.com >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From alan at wilcoxengineering.com Sun May 22 14:15:05 2016 From: alan at wilcoxengineering.com (Alan D. Wilcox) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 14:15:05 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Tuneup, Rescue, build your K2, K1, KX1, others Message-ID: Hello, Have you always wanted an Elecraft? A KX1, K1, K2, K3, whatever? Does your K2 need a tuneup? I build and service them all! See what my clients have said about my construction and service work at http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6768 Photos of the popular "Twins" -- the KPA100 and KAT100 in EC2 enclosure -- are at http://wilcoxengineering.com/kpa100-in-ec2/ In addition to tuning your rig, I can also rescue a building project you might have started some time ago. Cheers, Alan Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX (K2-5373, K3-40) 570-478-0736 (cell, text) http://amazon.com/author/alandwilcox Williamsport, PA 17701 From edkn3e at gmail.com Sun May 22 14:27:29 2016 From: edkn3e at gmail.com (Ed Hoeck) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 14:27:29 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] sub files Message-ID: I keep getting the error message from Spot Collector that the file BandModes.txt does not exist how do I correct this problem. From kevinr at coho.net Sun May 22 14:40:03 2016 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr at coho.net) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 11:40:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement Message-ID: <9c2ef4f1-614b-2123-700b-aac46098de99@coho.net> After a cold, wet week at least the propagation has marginally improved. A new Elecraft rig was announced on Wednesday. It looks like a good fit for those of us who work a little radio into our hiking, canoeing, or XC skiing sojourns. I was reading history (which I am wont to do) and found a QRP rig circa 1965. It was interesting to compare Elecraft's new rig with this design : http://www.militaryradio.com/spyradio/delco5300.html. How things have changed! Please join us on: 14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday) 7045 kHz at 0100z Monday (6 PM PDT Sunday) 73, Kevin. KD5ONS From pncengineering at gmail.com Sun May 22 14:46:13 2016 From: pncengineering at gmail.com (N6MQL) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 11:46:13 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne Message-ID: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> Although I appreciate all of your answers I specifically asked these questions of Wayne because I was making a point to let him know of my disapproval of the fact that the KXPA100 amp is incapable of running a full 100 watts on a standard 12v battery. Furthermore I was trying to get an explanation from the head designer as to why my amp that has a 30amp power supply at 15v (read on the KX3) or 15.4v at the input is unable to transmit at a full 100 watts on all bands. Yes, I have the supplied cable with fuses attached, it's only 3 feet long, and the transmit vs' receive voltage is less than a volt difference. So all of those bases have been covered. As noted I have also completed the KX3 power configuration, and the KX3 to KPA matching alignment procedure... I was alluded to the idea that there were a second revision of boards that came out for the KXPA100 after the early models were shipped. I have also heard that those boards help increase the output power. Therefore I was asking WAYNE if this were the case, and perhaps having them would help this situation. As for the 12v not running the amp, this IS an issue because at field day we have 150 Ah batteries that run 12 volts, and it would be nice to have my 100 watt amp run a full 100 watts. Again, this was designed as a portable amp. I would expect that at 12v we should be able to get the full rating out of it. On another note, what may have also gotten lost due to all those trying to be helpful, but cluttering my original post. I have a K3 that no longer puts out 100 watts on 17 meters but does on all other bands. I was told this was a software issue by Tech Support. I would like confirmation FROM WAYNE that this is the case, and when he may have time to address it. If not, I would like to know why I was told this. So again, as much as I appreciate all of you trying to help with these questions, I would much prefer that Wayne address them personally. Thank you, -- Michael N6MQL From k6dgw at foothill.net Sun May 22 15:32:46 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 12:32:46 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Equalizer comment In-Reply-To: References: <5741130A.9000309@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: One of the first things I noticed after getting the P3 and poking around the phone bands was how frequently a station's audio was concentrated right next to the suppressed carrier. K9YC helped me set my TX EQ, and the goal was to cut the lows [next to the carrier frequency] which consume a lot of the RF power and contribute little if anything to intelligibility. With a 5 or 6 KHz span, the display is very striking and signals with a desirable spectrum seem to be a bit rare. I don't frequent SSB very often, but when I do, usually in an NAQP or Sweepstakes, I regularly get unsolicited "Great audio" comments with Jim's settings. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org On 5/21/2016 9:33 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote: > By looking at how his signal filled out the voice band in the waterfall, > and also the pattern of it on the display. It is a crude test using a > person's voice. Audio reports were the final test. He wasn't able to > adjust it by monitoring his own voice. > > It would be better if the transmitting station had something like an AF > generator audibly coupled to the microphone to do a freq run within the > voice band at a constant audio level. > > Dick, n0ce > > On 5/21/2016 9:01 PM, Jim Brown wrote: >> On Sat,5/21/2016 7:54 AM, Richard Fjeld wrote: >>> I was asked to help a ham get the transmit audio on his new import >>> equalized. What an experience! >> >> How did you use the P3 to do this? >> >> 73, Jim K9YC From ron at cobi.biz Sun May 22 16:04:13 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 13:04:13 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne In-Reply-To: References: <4AAD7A8D-1FFD-4625-A8DE-CAE515B325D6@arrl.net> Message-ID: <005101d1b465$1d25ad00$57710700$@biz> Actually it is a good measurement when the KXPA100 and KX3 are set up 'normally' with power to the KX3 supplied via the KXPA100. What the KX3 will display is the voltage present at the input to the KXPA100 (because that's where the KX3 is getting its power) less any voltage drop in the cable from the KXPA100 to the KX3. So if the voltage reads good at the KX3 with that setup, it's good at the KXPA100. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ken G Kopp Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 10:53 AM To: Nr4c; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne Bill, The front panel voltage display on a KX3 will -not- be accurate for the voltage at the input- power connector of the KXPA100. This voltage must be measured AT THE CONNECTOR on the rear of the KXPA100 to know what's being delivered to the PA. 73! K0PP On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Nr4c wrote: > Or just use the Voltage reading displayed on the K3/KX3 front panel. > It's quite accurate. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > > > On May 22, 2016, at 10:52 AM, David Orman wrote: > > > > Another question - how long/what gauge is the wire running to your > KXPA100? > > I wouldn't expect enough drop to pull your voltage down to a point > > at > which > > it cuts back power, but you never know. Check your KX3 for the > > source voltage when transmitting, that'll tell you if you're > > dropping below the threshold for power reduction. For example, 16 > > gauge copper will drop > about > > 1.2 volts on a 10 foot run @ 15A current draw. > > > >> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 9:58 PM, N6MQL wrote: > >> > >> Wayne, > >> > >> 2 things... First I mentioned to David S in the service department > >> that the K3 is no longer transmitting more than 94 watts out on 17 > >> meters regardless of the SWR/ impedance. David said that this was a > >> known issue due to software and that it was being worked on. > >> However I haven't seen anything about this issue so I'm wondering > >> if this is true and if so has there been any updates to fix it. > >> Secondly, I'm noticing that my KXPA100 can not produce more that 80 > watts > >> on most bands and 60 on others when I don't supply it with as much > >> as > 15v > >> DC on a 30 amp supply. This after I did the KX3 / KPXA calibration > >> procedure. Why is it that a "mobile" amp that would normally be > >> powered with 12v DC from a car battery not be able to provide the > >> power output > that > >> it is sold as (100 watts)?. Has there been some kind of revisions > >> to the first run boards that I should be exchanging them with? > >> > >> Thank you for your answers 73 > >> > >> Mike > >> N6MQL > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this > >> email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > >> ormandj at corenode.com > >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this > > email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > > nr4c at widomaker.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > kengkopp at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Sun May 22 17:09:07 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 16:09:07 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne In-Reply-To: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> References: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2fae177f-8241-9645-3897-525be74ae69e@mediacombb.net> You do know what's going on this weekend right? I'm sure once he is back from Dayton he will give your questions all of they attention they deserve. What sort of watt meter are we measuring the output with? On 5/22/2016 1:46 PM, N6MQL wrote: > Although I appreciate all of your answers I specifically asked these > questions of Wayne because I was making a point to let him know of my > disapproval of the fact that the KXPA100 amp is incapable of running a > full 100 watts on a standard 12v battery. Furthermore I was trying to > get an explanation from the head designer as to why my amp that has a > 30amp power supply at 15v (read on the KX3) or 15.4v at the input is > unable to transmit at a full 100 watts on all bands. Yes, I have the > supplied cable with fuses attached, it's only 3 feet long, and the > transmit vs' receive voltage is less than a volt difference. So all > of those bases have been covered. As noted I have also completed the > KX3 power configuration, and the KX3 to KPA matching alignment > procedure... > I was alluded to the idea that there were a second revision of boards > that came out for the KXPA100 after the early models were shipped. I > have also heard that those boards help increase the output power. > Therefore I was asking WAYNE if this were the case, and perhaps having > them would help this situation. As for the 12v not running the amp, > this IS an issue because at field day we have 150 Ah batteries that > run 12 volts, and it would be nice to have my 100 watt amp run a full > 100 watts. Again, this was designed as a portable amp. I would expect > that at 12v we should be able to get the full rating out of it. > > On another note, what may have also gotten lost due to all those > trying to be helpful, but cluttering my original post. I have a K3 > that no longer puts out 100 watts on 17 meters but does on all other > bands. I was told this was a software issue by Tech Support. I would > like confirmation FROM WAYNE that this is the case, and when he may > have time to address it. If not, I would like to know why I was told > this. > > So again, as much as I appreciate all of you trying to help with these > questions, I would much prefer that Wayne address them personally. > Thank you, > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Sun May 22 17:46:00 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 14:46:00 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne In-Reply-To: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> References: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> Message-ID: <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Sun,5/22/2016 11:46 AM, N6MQL wrote: > Although I appreciate all of your answers I specifically asked these > questions of Wayne because I was making a point to let him know of my > disapproval of the fact that the KXPA100 amp is incapable of running a > full 100 watts on a standard 12v battery. Michael, A careful reading of the online data sheet for the KXPA100 is instructive here. http://www.elecraft.com/KXPA100/kxpa100.htm The first line says "100 watts at 13.8 V, 1.8 to 29.7 MHz and 80 watts 50-54 MHz PEP CW/SSB/DATA; ? 1 dB" Two points: First, the amplifier is rated for 13.8V, NOT 12V. Second, the rating is +/1 dB, which is +/- 20% power. Thus, 80W on the HF bands is within spec for 13.8V at the amplifier terminals. The second line says "13.8 VDC powered; 20 A typical current drain (11 V with lower output. 15 V max)" This clearly means that the unit is designed and rated for 13.8VDC, can be operated from 11V to 15VDC, and will have reduced output at lower supply voltages. Obviously, Ohm's Law dictates that resistance of the DC supply conductors will reduce power supply voltage at the amplifier terminals, so while we may have 12V or 13.8V at our battery terminals, the voltage at the end of 6-12 ft of cable will be a bit lower with a 20A load. For example, the drop in 6 ft of #10 is 0.24v; for #12, it's 0.38V, and for #14, it's 0.6V. As others have noted, the operating voltage in so-called 12V DC power systems using lead-acid batteries is not 12V, but rather 13.8V. If you buy an AC power supply for ham gear, it will likely leave the factory with its voltage regulator set for 13.8V. Open the manual or the spec sheet for nearly all ham gear and you will find the supply voltage specified as 13.8VDC. 73, Jim K9YC From ken at arcomcontrollers.com Sun May 22 18:23:29 2016 From: ken at arcomcontrollers.com (Ken Arck) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 15:23:29 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? In-Reply-To: <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts to OFF - OFF. I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and that setting reverts. Ken ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" From dlsmith at harlanonline.net Sun May 22 18:48:54 2016 From: dlsmith at harlanonline.net (David Smith) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 18:48:54 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Message-ID: <000001d1b47c$1e52c3e0$5af84ba0$@harlanonline.net> Just home from Dayton and getting ready to get my KX2 on the air I purchased at Dayton. Looking forward to the comments when everyone gets theirs on the the air. Thanks Wayne, Eric and the Elecraft team for the new product and your support. Looking at several locations now to activate SOTA in my area and get my ATV/side by side out in the mountains again. Nice to combine 2 hobbies I have a passion for. David, ND4Y --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From dlrwild1 at verizon.net Sun May 22 19:31:33 2016 From: dlrwild1 at verizon.net (dlrwild1 at verizon.net) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 19:31:33 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FS: N8BX VFO knobs NIB Message-ID: <92B1454070B44BB4BC113B76E2019E82@hamroomPpc> FS: NIB N8BX VFO A/B knobs black power coated with aluminum inserts for K3/K3S. Sold my K3/100. Plans changed, no longer needed. Contact Bob, K3SRO at dlrwild1 at verizon.net ASKING: $150 with S/H From w8dn at roadrunner.com Sun May 22 19:44:37 2016 From: w8dn at roadrunner.com (Mike Rhodes) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 19:44:37 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne In-Reply-To: <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: From drzarkof56 at yahoo.com Sun May 22 19:59:23 2016 From: drzarkof56 at yahoo.com (Doug Millar) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 23:59:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 145, Issue 27 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42973733.596917.1463961563518.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> The new KX2 looks really exciting. Can anyone come up with a picture of the insides?? Doug K6JEY From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Sun May 22 20:20:20 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 19:20:20 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne In-Reply-To: <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: Further down in the same online spec page it states "Compact unit ideal for both desktop and mobile use". Note *mobile* use where the electrical system supplies more than 13.8V with the engine running. I find no mention of the KXPA100 being developed as a "portable" amp. I have done searches of all Elecraft docs concerning the KXPA100 and find NO mention of the word *portable* anywhere. Nor do I find any mention of some nefarious board swap early in the products life. Maybe the OP assumed because it has a carry strap that it is a portable amp. Well...My TS520 has a carry strap and a DC-DC converter. No way that can be classified as portable, it weighs 37lbs. To be fair I have run it at field day but we had a 10KW diesel powered generator on a trailer. Power was NOT and issue. On 5/22/2016 4:46 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > Michael, > > A careful reading of the online data sheet for the KXPA100 is > instructive here. > > http://www.elecraft.com/KXPA100/kxpa100.htm > > The first line says "100 watts at 13.8 V, 1.8 to 29.7 MHz and 80 watts > 50-54 MHz PEP CW/SSB/DATA; ? 1 dB" > > Two points: First, the amplifier is rated for 13.8V, NOT 12V. Second, > the rating is +/1 dB, which is +/- 20% power. Thus, 80W on the HF > bands is within spec for 13.8V at the amplifier terminals. > > The second line says "13.8 VDC powered; 20 A typical current drain (11 > V with lower output. 15 V max)" > > This clearly means that the unit is designed and rated for 13.8VDC, > can be operated from 11V to 15VDC, and will have reduced output at > lower supply voltages. > > Obviously, Ohm's Law dictates that resistance of the DC supply > conductors will reduce power supply voltage at the amplifier > terminals, so while we may have 12V or 13.8V at our battery terminals, > the voltage at the end of 6-12 ft of cable will be a bit lower with a > 20A load. For example, the drop in 6 ft of #10 is 0.24v; for #12, it's > 0.38V, and for #14, it's 0.6V. > > As others have noted, the operating voltage in so-called 12V DC power > systems using lead-acid batteries is not 12V, but rather 13.8V. If you > buy an AC power supply for ham gear, it will likely leave the factory > with its voltage regulator set for 13.8V. Open the manual or the spec > sheet for nearly all ham gear and you will find the supply voltage > specified as 13.8VDC. > > 73, Jim K9YC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevin.stover at mediacombb.net > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From rdarlington at gmail.com Sun May 22 20:26:16 2016 From: rdarlington at gmail.com (Bob Darlington) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 18:26:16 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] [RESOLVED] Audio via USB for the K3S? In-Reply-To: <20160521161007.DD790149B28F@mailman.qth.net> References: <003c01d1b2d7$e1d1a260$a574e720$@nbnet.nb.ca> <20160520233155.51071149B499@mailman.qth.net> <238AC49A-73BE-4F2E-AD6C-E347F87CA4D7@widomaker.com> <20160521020144.A1DE9149B695@mailman.qth.net> <20160521031952.0934F149B448@mailman.qth.net> <20160521161007.DD790149B28F@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: You definitely do NOT need to be in data mode. I've never switched to data and do PSK31 every day on a K3S. "LINE" level set high enough (mine is around 10-13) "MIC SEL" set to LINE IN. You'll also need to make sure the USB Codec sound input/output levels are set on your computer to levels that work. Start with each slider mid way to get into the ballpark and adjust from there. There's a way to do both front mic and line in (internal sound card) but I would pick up my keyboard with the mic. A couple of macros later and I have a button for phone and a button for digital that changes settings appropriately. -Bob N3XKB On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Ken Arck wrote: > Well..it seems the only way for the USB audio from computer > radio to > work is for radio to be in DATA mode.....Duh...... > > Thanks to all who responded > > > > Ken > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > President and CTO - Arcom Communications > Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. > http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ > Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and > we offer complete repeater packages! > AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 > http://www.irlp.net > "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rdarlington at gmail.com > From esteptony at gmail.com Sun May 22 20:38:35 2016 From: esteptony at gmail.com (Tony Estep) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 19:38:35 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] [RESOLVED] Audio via USB for the K3S? In-Reply-To: References: <003c01d1b2d7$e1d1a260$a574e720$@nbnet.nb.ca> <20160520233155.51071149B499@mailman.qth.net> <238AC49A-73BE-4F2E-AD6C-E347F87CA4D7@widomaker.com> <20160521020144.A1DE9149B695@mailman.qth.net> <20160521031952.0934F149B448@mailman.qth.net> <20160521161007.DD790149B28F@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 7:26 PM, Bob Darlington wrote: > You definitely do NOT need to be in data mode. I've never switched to > data... > ============ Correct. You can transmit and receive data just fine in SSB mode. It's good that you fixed your problem, but that wasn't it. Tony KT0NY From vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk Sun May 22 20:46:04 2016 From: vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk (Johnny Siu) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 00:46:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne In-Reply-To: References: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <1019997783.458075.1463964364671.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hello Gentleman, I met both Wayne and Eric in the past, they are thick skin and like questions right in front of their faces. ?Some questions for them to address will give them more desire to do better. ?In return, we are benefited. Actually, I don't mind having a KXPA100 delivering 100W under 12V power supply. ?Just leave Wayne free hands to Wayne to answer and I trust he is in a better position to do so. 73 Johnny VR2XMC ???? Kevin Stover ???? elecraft at mailman.qth.net ????? 2016?05?23? (??) 8:20 AM ??? Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne Further down in the same online spec page it states "Compact unit ideal for both desktop and mobile use". Note *mobile* use where the electrical system supplies more than 13.8V with the engine running. I find no mention of the KXPA100 being developed as a "portable" amp. I have done searches of all Elecraft docs concerning the KXPA100 and find NO mention of the word *portable* anywhere. Nor do I find any mention of some nefarious board swap early in the products life. Maybe the OP assumed because it has a carry strap that it is a portable amp. Well...My TS520 has a carry strap and a DC-DC converter. No way that can be classified as portable, it weighs 37lbs. To be fair I have run it at field day but we had a 10KW diesel powered generator on a trailer. Power was NOT and issue. On 5/22/2016 4:46 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > Michael, > > A careful reading of the online data sheet for the KXPA100 is > instructive here. > > http://www.elecraft.com/KXPA100/kxpa100.htm > > The first line says "100 watts at 13.8 V, 1.8 to 29.7 MHz and 80 watts > 50-54 MHz PEP CW/SSB/DATA; ? 1 dB" > > Two points: First, the amplifier is rated for 13.8V, NOT 12V. Second, > the rating is +/1 dB, which is +/- 20% power. Thus, 80W on the HF > bands is within spec for 13.8V at the amplifier terminals. > > The second line says "13.8 VDC powered; 20 A typical current drain (11 > V with lower output. 15 V max)" > > This clearly means that the unit is designed and rated for 13.8VDC, > can be operated from 11V to 15VDC, and will have reduced output at > lower supply voltages. > > Obviously, Ohm's Law dictates that resistance of the DC supply > conductors will reduce power supply voltage at the amplifier > terminals, so while we may have 12V or 13.8V at our battery terminals, > the voltage at the end of 6-12 ft of cable will be a bit lower with a > 20A load. For example, the drop in 6 ft of #10 is 0.24v; for #12, it's > 0.38V, and for #14, it's 0.6V. > > As others have noted, the operating voltage in so-called 12V DC power > systems using lead-acid batteries is not 12V, but rather 13.8V. If you > buy an AC power supply for ham gear, it will likely leave the factory > with its voltage regulator set for 13.8V. Open the manual or the spec > sheet for nearly all ham gear and you will find the supply voltage > specified as 13.8VDC. > > 73, Jim K9YC From ormandj at corenode.com Sun May 22 20:52:14 2016 From: ormandj at corenode.com (David Orman) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 19:52:14 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne In-Reply-To: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> References: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> Message-ID: While I appreciate the motivation behind your request, you should have asked Wayne directly, and not via an email list sent to hundreds (thousands?) of users. If you did not want community replies, you should not have sent an email to a community mailing list. On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 1:46 PM, N6MQL wrote: > Although I appreciate all of your answers I specifically asked these > questions of Wayne because I was making a point to let him know of my > disapproval of the fact that the KXPA100 amp is incapable of running a full > 100 watts on a standard 12v battery. Furthermore I was trying to get an > explanation from the head designer as to why my amp that has a 30amp power > supply at 15v (read on the KX3) or 15.4v at the input is unable to transmit > at a full 100 watts on all bands. Yes, I have the supplied cable with > fuses attached, it's only 3 feet long, and the transmit vs' receive voltage > is less than a volt difference. So all of those bases have been covered. > As noted I have also completed the KX3 power configuration, and the KX3 to > KPA matching alignment procedure... > I was alluded to the idea that there were a second revision of boards that > came out for the KXPA100 after the early models were shipped. I have also > heard that those boards help increase the output power. Therefore I was > asking WAYNE if this were the case, and perhaps having them would help this > situation. As for the 12v not running the amp, this IS an issue because at > field day we have 150 Ah batteries that run 12 volts, and it would be nice > to have my 100 watt amp run a full 100 watts. Again, this was designed as a > portable amp. I would expect that at 12v we should be able to get the full > rating out of it. > > On another note, what may have also gotten lost due to all those trying to > be helpful, but cluttering my original post. I have a K3 that no longer > puts out 100 watts on 17 meters but does on all other bands. I was told > this was a software issue by Tech Support. I would like confirmation FROM > WAYNE that this is the case, and when he may have time to address it. If > not, I would like to know why I was told this. > > So again, as much as I appreciate all of you trying to help with these > questions, I would much prefer that Wayne address them personally. Thank > you, > > -- > Michael > > N6MQL > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ormandj at corenode.com > From tnnyswy at yahoo.com Sun May 22 21:09:43 2016 From: tnnyswy at yahoo.com (tnnyswy at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 01:09:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne In-Reply-To: <1019997783.458075.1463964364671.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com> <1019997783.458075.1463964364671.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1882735046.785388.1463965783226.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> >>> I don't mind having a KXPA100 delivering 100W under 12V power supply. <<< Simple fix!??? Apply ohms Law. (((73))) Milverton / W9MM. From: Johnny Siu via Elecraft To: Kevin Stover ; "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:46 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne Hello Gentleman, I met both Wayne and Eric in the past, they are thick skin and like questions right in front of their faces. ?Some questions for them to address will give them more desire to do better. ?In return, we are benefited. Actually, I don't mind having a KXPA100 delivering 100W under 12V power supply. ?Just leave Wayne free hands to Wayne to answer and I trust he is in a better position to do so. 73 Johnny VR2XMC ? ? ? ???? Kevin Stover ???? elecraft at mailman.qth.net ????? 2016?05?23? (??) 8:20 AM ??? Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne ? Further down in the same online spec page it states "Compact unit ideal for both desktop and mobile use". Note *mobile* use where the electrical system supplies more than 13.8V with the engine running. I find no mention of the KXPA100 being developed as a "portable" amp. I have done searches of all Elecraft docs concerning the KXPA100 and find NO mention of the word *portable* anywhere. Nor do I find any mention of some nefarious board swap early in the products life. Maybe the OP assumed because it has a carry strap that it is a portable amp. Well...My TS520 has a carry strap and a DC-DC converter. No way that can be classified as portable, it weighs 37lbs. To be fair I have run it at field day but we had a 10KW diesel powered generator on a trailer. Power was NOT and issue. On 5/22/2016 4:46 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > Michael, > > A careful reading of the online data sheet for the KXPA100 is > instructive here. > > http://www.elecraft.com/KXPA100/kxpa100.htm > > The first line says "100 watts at 13.8 V, 1.8 to 29.7 MHz and 80 watts > 50-54 MHz PEP CW/SSB/DATA; ? 1 dB" > > Two points: First, the amplifier is rated for 13.8V, NOT 12V. Second, > the rating is +/1 dB, which is +/- 20% power. Thus, 80W on the HF > bands is within spec for 13.8V at the amplifier terminals. > > The second line says "13.8 VDC powered; 20 A typical current drain (11 > V with lower output. 15 V max)" > > This clearly means that the unit is designed and rated for 13.8VDC, > can be operated from 11V to 15VDC, and will have reduced output at > lower supply voltages. > > Obviously, Ohm's Law dictates that resistance of the DC supply > conductors will reduce power supply voltage at the amplifier > terminals, so while we may have 12V or 13.8V at our battery terminals, > the voltage at the end of 6-12 ft of cable will be a bit lower with a > 20A load. For example, the drop in 6 ft of #10 is 0.24v; for #12, it's > 0.38V, and for #14, it's 0.6V. > > As others have noted, the operating voltage in so-called 12V DC power > systems using lead-acid batteries is not 12V, but rather 13.8V. If you > buy an AC power supply for ham gear, it will likely leave the factory > with its voltage regulator set for 13.8V. Open the manual or the spec > sheet for nearly all ham gear and you will find the supply voltage > specified as 13.8VDC. > > 73, Jim K9YC ? ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tnnyswy at yahoo.com From rpfjeld at outlook.com Sun May 22 22:10:07 2016 From: rpfjeld at outlook.com (Richard Fjeld) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 21:10:07 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Equalizer comment In-Reply-To: References: <5741130A.9000309@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: Yes, I have a narrow span like that programmed into one of the P3 buttons for quick selection. His audio was centered around 500-600 Hz. Several guys with pan adapters ultimately tried to help him. I signed off and let them work with him. I heard him the next day and his audio was better but still room for improvement. Everyone had been giving him bad audio reports and he sounded choked up with disappointment. It is a new radio. Enuf said about that. We have it good. Dick, n0ce On 5/22/2016 2:32 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > One of the first things I noticed after getting the P3 and poking > around the phone bands was how frequently a station's audio was > concentrated right next to the suppressed carrier. > > K9YC helped me set my TX EQ, and the goal was to cut the lows [next to > the carrier frequency] which consume a lot of the RF power and > contribute little if anything to intelligibility. With a 5 or 6 KHz > span, the display is very striking and signals with a desirable > spectrum seem to be a bit rare. > > I don't frequent SSB very often, but when I do, usually in an NAQP or > Sweepstakes, I regularly get unsolicited "Great audio" comments with > Jim's settings. > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > - Northern California Contest Club > - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 > - www.cqp.org > From fcady at montana.edu Sun May 22 22:42:54 2016 From: fcady at montana.edu (Cady, Fred) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 02:42:54 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? In-Reply-To: <20160522222431.54B27149B437@mailman.qth.net> References: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com>, <20160522222431.54B27149B437@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: That doesn't sound right. I don't think mine has ever changed. Cheers, Fred KE7X ________________________________________ From: Elecraft on behalf of Ken Arck Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:23 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts to OFF - OFF. I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and that setting reverts. Ken ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to fcady at montana.edu From ken at arcomcontrollers.com Sun May 22 22:51:40 2016 From: ken at arcomcontrollers.com (Ken Arck) Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 19:51:40 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? In-Reply-To: References: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com> <20160522222431.54B27149B437@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: Sounds like a call to Elecraft tomorrow because this is repeatable! At 07:42 PM 5/22/2016, Cady, Fred wrote: >That doesn't sound right. I don't think mine has ever changed. >Cheers, >Fred KE7X > >________________________________________ >From: Elecraft on behalf of Ken >Arck >Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:23 PM >To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? > >I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be >non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts to >OFF - OFF. I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't > >Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and >that setting reverts. > >Ken >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >President and CTO - Arcom Communications >Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. >http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ >Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and >we offer complete repeater packages! >AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 >http://www.irlp.net >"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" > >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to fcady at montana.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Sun May 22 23:29:00 2016 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 06:29:00 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? In-Reply-To: <20160523025227.13E20149B4AD@mailman.qth.net> References: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com> <20160522222431.54B27149B437@mailman.qth.net> <20160523025227.13E20149B4AD@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: Which radio is it? I've never seen this on my K3. If you are running some kind of rig control software, try it with the software not running. 73, Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO Rehovot, Israel http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 23 May 2016 05:51, Ken Arck wrote: > Sounds like a call to Elecraft tomorrow because this is repeatable! > > > > > At 07:42 PM 5/22/2016, Cady, Fred wrote: >> That doesn't sound right. I don't think mine has ever changed. >> Cheers, >> Fred KE7X >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: Elecraft on behalf of Ken >> Arck >> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:23 PM >> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? >> >> I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be >> non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts to >> OFF - OFF. I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't >> >> Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and >> that setting reverts. >> >> Ken From ctate at ewnetinc.com Mon May 23 00:02:45 2016 From: ctate at ewnetinc.com (Chris Tate - N6WM) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 04:02:45 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] To new KX2 owners In-Reply-To: <659B8039-4A05-4844-B70C-35833A16724C@elecraft.com> References: <659B8039-4A05-4844-B70C-35833A16724C@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <236350B81BC09D42B8C3B41A97C654DD12663C16@AUSP01DAG0504.collaborationhost.net> Wayne thanks for putting together this cool little rig and congrats on another successful release. I am heading to ZF2 next month and I am thinking this may be exactly what I need to go along for the ride.. :-). Low profile 10 watts, buddipole and tropical drink sounds very nice... Look for the antenna on 7-mile beach. Chris N6WM -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 7:05 PM To: Elecraft Mailer ; KX3 at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Elecraft] To new KX2 owners Hi all, If you were among those who scooped up (in record time) the KX2s we brought to Dayton: thanks for your enthusiastic response! (Wish we'd brought more :) I know many of you have already unboxes the radios and are putting them on the air. If you have early questions or comments, feel free to send them to me directly, and/or post here. There are many knowledgable KX2 field testers lurking on our lists, including some top-flight SOTA operators. Trivia question: what's the closest SOTA peak to Hara Arena? 73, Wayne N6KR ---- http://www.elecraft.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ctate at ewnetinc.com From danny.higgins at keme.co.uk Mon May 23 01:08:03 2016 From: danny.higgins at keme.co.uk (danny.higgins) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 06:08:03 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? In-Reply-To: References: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com> <20160522222431.54B27149B437@mailman.qth.net> <20160523025227.13E20149B4AD@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: I have this on my K3S with the latest firmware. I use WSJT to key the K3S via the USB port and I operate in USB mode, not Data. Every time I power the K3S OFF I need to reset the PTT Key config to DTR ? OFF. Danny, G3XVR From: Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO Sent: 23 May 2016 04:29 To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? Which radio is it? I've never seen this on my K3. If you are running some kind of rig control software, try it with the software not running. 73, Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO Rehovot, Israel http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 23 May 2016 05:51, Ken Arck wrote: > Sounds like a call to Elecraft tomorrow because this is repeatable! > > > > > At 07:42 PM 5/22/2016, Cady, Fred wrote: >> That doesn't sound right. I don't think mine has ever changed. >> Cheers, >> Fred KE7X >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: Elecraft on behalf of Ken >> Arck >> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:23 PM >> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? >> >> I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be >> non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts to >> OFF - OFF. I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't >> >> Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and >> that setting reverts. >> >> Ken ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to danny.higgins at keme.co.uk From donwilh at embarqmail.com Mon May 23 01:26:42 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 01:26:42 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? In-Reply-To: References: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com> <20160522222431.54B27149B437@mailman.qth.net> <20160523025227.13E20149B4AD@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: Danny, Do a test without WSJT running. Set PTT key config to DTR - OFF, then cycle power on the K3S. Does that setting survive the power cycle? If so, it is not a K3S problem, look to the WSJT software for the solution. If it does not survive the power cycle, contact K3Support. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/23/2016 1:08 AM, danny.higgins wrote: > I have this on my K3S with the latest firmware. I use WSJT to key the K3S via the USB port and I operate in USB mode, not Data. Every time I power the K3S OFF I need to reset the PTT Key config to DTR ? OFF. > > Danny, G3XVR > > > From: Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO > Sent: 23 May 2016 04:29 > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? > > Which radio is it? I've never seen this on my K3. > If you are running some kind of rig control software, try it with the > software not running. > > 73, > Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO > Rehovot, Israel > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > > On 23 May 2016 05:51, Ken Arck wrote: >> Sounds like a call to Elecraft tomorrow because this is repeatable! >> >> >> >> >> At 07:42 PM 5/22/2016, Cady, Fred wrote: >>> That doesn't sound right. I don't think mine has ever changed. >>> Cheers, >>> Fred KE7X >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: Elecraft on behalf of Ken >>> Arck >>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:23 PM >>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? >>> >>> I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be >>> non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts to >>> OFF - OFF. I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't >>> >>> Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and >>> that setting reverts. >>> >>> Ken > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to danny.higgins at keme.co.uk > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com From danny.higgins at keme.co.uk Mon May 23 02:33:37 2016 From: danny.higgins at keme.co.uk (danny.higgins) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 07:33:37 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? In-Reply-To: References: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com> <20160522222431.54B27149B437@mailman.qth.net> <20160523025227.13E20149B4AD@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: WSJT not running ? K3S not connected to PC. I still need to reset PTT-KEY after a power cycle ? it always goes back to OFF-OFF. The same thing happens in USB or DATA modes. Danny, G3XVR From: Don Wilhelm Sent: 23 May 2016 06:26 To: danny.higgins; Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? Danny, Do a test without WSJT running. Set PTT key config to DTR - OFF, then cycle power on the K3S. Does that setting survive the power cycle? If so, it is not a K3S problem, look to the WSJT software for the solution. If it does not survive the power cycle, contact K3Support. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/23/2016 1:08 AM, danny.higgins wrote: > I have this on my K3S with the latest firmware. I use WSJT to key the K3S via the USB port and I operate in USB mode, not Data. Every time I power the K3S OFF I need to reset the PTT Key config to DTR ? OFF. > > Danny, G3XVR > > > From: Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO > Sent: 23 May 2016 04:29 > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? > > Which radio is it? I've never seen this on my K3. > If you are running some kind of rig control software, try it with the > software not running. > > 73, > Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO > Rehovot, Israel > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > > On 23 May 2016 05:51, Ken Arck wrote: >> Sounds like a call to Elecraft tomorrow because this is repeatable! >> >> >> >> >> At 07:42 PM 5/22/2016, Cady, Fred wrote: >>> That doesn't sound right. I don't think mine has ever changed. >>> Cheers, >>> Fred KE7X >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: Elecraft on behalf of Ken >>> Arck >>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:23 PM >>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? >>> >>> I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be >>> non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts to >>> OFF - OFF. I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't >>> >>> Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and >>> that setting reverts. >>> >>> Ken > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to danny.higgins at keme.co.uk > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com From foxfive.vjc at gmail.com Mon May 23 03:12:30 2016 From: foxfive.vjc at gmail.com (F5vjc) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 09:12:30 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice. Message-ID: Hi, I have an Elecraft K line station and up to now have been running all my software on an aging Win 7 32 bit machine. No real problems but I'm in the process of building an updated PC and have a dilemma. Do I go with Win 7 Pro 64 Bit or Win 10 for the OS? I know some of you will have taken this path already, so how do you find WIN 10 with typical Ham radio software? I run Win4K3, N1MM, HRD, Log4OM, CW Skimmer, NaP3 and numerous other Ham radio stuff. I have Win 10 on my laptop (free update from Win 7) but not used for the Ham shack and find it rather irritating, but this is probably due to unfamiliarity. Do you guys prefer Win 7 or 10 for Ham radio apps. Any advice appreciated, thanks. 73, Deni - F5VJC From frantz at pwpconsult.com Mon May 23 03:42:08 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 00:42:08 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne In-Reply-To: <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: An addition to Jim's comments below. All 100W rigs, regardless of manufacturer, whether the amp is part of the radio or a separate unit, develop significant distortion as the voltage drops. We noticed the effect at CQP last year. We were operating on batteries as our hosts have a no generator rule. As our batteries got lower, our 3 stations -- 2 K3s and a KX3 with KXPA100 -- started interfering with each other. The problem went away when we replaced the batteries with fresh ones. This distortion will also affect your signal as received by distant stations, so it is undesirable in a rig unless you want a reputation for a bad signal. One way to be able to get maximum runtime from your batteries is to use a voltage booster regulator. I use a N8XJK Boost Regulator from TGE. This device boosts the battery voltage to the radio. Mine shows 13.9 volts, receive and 13.4 volts key down at 100W on 160M, even with relatively low batteries. (It does have a low voltage cut off to protect the batteries.) The N8XJK Boost Regulator does generate some minor birdies on receive, so I have it set up to only boost voltage when it senses RF output from the transmitter. 73 Bill AE6JV On 5/22/16 at 2:46 PM, jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) wrote: >On Sun,5/22/2016 11:46 AM, N6MQL wrote: >>Although I appreciate all of your answers I specifically asked >>these questions of Wayne because I was making a point to let >>him know of my disapproval of the fact that the KXPA100 amp is >>incapable of running a full 100 watts on a standard 12v battery. > >Michael, > >A careful reading of the online data sheet for the KXPA100 is instructive here. > >http://www.elecraft.com/KXPA100/kxpa100.htm > >The first line says "100 watts at 13.8 V, 1.8 to 29.7 MHz and >80 watts 50-54 MHz PEP CW/SSB/DATA; ? 1 dB" > >Two points: First, the amplifier is rated for 13.8V, NOT 12V. >Second, the rating is +/1 dB, which is +/- 20% power. Thus, 80W >on the HF bands is within spec for 13.8V at the amplifier terminals. > >The second line says "13.8 VDC powered; 20 A typical current >drain (11 V with lower output. 15 V max)" > >This clearly means that the unit is designed and rated for >13.8VDC, can be operated from 11V to 15VDC, and will have >reduced output at lower supply voltages. > >Obviously, Ohm's Law dictates that resistance of the DC supply >conductors will reduce power supply voltage at the amplifier >terminals, so while we may have 12V or 13.8V at our battery >terminals, the voltage at the end of 6-12 ft of cable will be a >bit lower with a 20A load. For example, the drop in 6 ft of #10 >is 0.24v; for #12, it's 0.38V, and for #14, it's 0.6V. > >As others have noted, the operating voltage in so-called 12V DC >power systems using lead-acid batteries is not 12V, but rather >13.8V. If you buy an AC power supply for ham gear, it will >likely leave the factory with its voltage regulator set for >13.8V. Open the manual or the spec sheet for nearly all ham >gear and you will find the supply voltage specified as 13.8VDC. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Airline peanut bag: "Produced | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | in a facility that processes | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | peanuts and other nuts." - Duh | Los Gatos, CA 95032 From dhdeitrick at mac.com Mon May 23 07:00:27 2016 From: dhdeitrick at mac.com (David Deitrick) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 07:00:27 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 145, Issue 27 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6A5A7A88-69C7-4F5E-A9C9-2287AC0D1A41@mac.com> > On May 22, 2016, at 17:46, elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net wrote: > > Send Elecraft mailing list submissions to > elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > elecraft-owner at mailman.qth.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Elecraft digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Powering a k-pad from a K3S (john at kk9a.com) > 2. Re: To new KX2 owners (KD6QZX) > 3. Re: [KX3] To new KX2 owners (Wayne Burdick) > 4. Re: K3S receive antenna (Don Wilhelm) > 5. K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne (N6MQL) > 6. Re: K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne (Ken G Kopp) > 7. K2 PA Failures and Remote Antenna Switch (Dauer, Edward) > 8. Re: K3 Equalizer comment (Richard Fjeld) > 9. Re: K2 PA Failures and Remote Antenna Switch (Josh Fiden) > 10. Elecraft Weekly SSB Net (John W Webster) > 11. For sale P3-SVGA-Monitor (George Rebong) > 12. SP-3 Speakers SOLD (Steve Ellington) > 13. Re: K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne (David Orman) > 14. Re: K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne (Nr4c) > 15. Re: K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne (Bob N3MNT) > 16. [KX2] To new KX2 owners (ae5x at juno.com) > 17. Re: K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne (Art Nienhouse) > 18. Re: K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne (Ken G Kopp) > 19. Re: K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne (Walter Underwood) > 20. Tuneup, Rescue, build your K2, K1, KX1, others (Alan D. Wilcox) > 21. sub files (Ed Hoeck) > 22. Elecraft CW Net Announcement (kevinr at coho.net) > 23. Re: K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne (N6MQL) > 24. Re: K3 Equalizer comment (Fred Jensen) > 25. Re: K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne (Ron D'Eau Claire) > 26. Re: K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne (Kevin Stover) > 27. Re: K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne (Jim Brown) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 22:15:44 -0400 > From: > To: > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Powering a k-pad from a K3S > Message-ID: <000001d1b3cf$d93311e0$8b9935a0$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Yes you have to modify the K3S. Check the archives, this was answered last > month by Wayne. I reposted a portion of his answer below: > > John KK9A > > > You need to solder one end of an 1/8th-watt resistor to an SMD, and the > other > end to a via nearby. Or you could send it to us to do the work. > > Wayne > N6KR > > > > From:Bob Novas > Sat May 21 14:35:16 EDT 2016 > > Say, just for the sake of the argument, that I were to purchase a K-pad. If > I want to power it from the K3S over the cable connected to the plug on the > bottom of the K3S, do I have to modify the K3S to get power to the K-pad? > If so, how much do I have to take apart? Would it make any sense to > purchase any other stuff at this juncture because the K3S is going to be > apart, like the KDV3? Thanks, Bob - W3DK > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 19:42:29 -0700 (MST) > From: KD6QZX > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] To new KX2 owners > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Campbell hill is closed SOTA thanks for the cool little HF rig. Scott AK6Q > > > >> On May 21, 2016, at 10:07 PM, wayne burdick [via Elecraft] wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> If you were among those who scooped up (in record time) the KX2s we brought to Dayton: thanks for your enthusiastic response! (Wish we'd brought more :) >> >> I know many of you have already unboxes the radios and are putting them on the air. If you have early questions or comments, feel free to send them to me directly, and/or post here. There are many knowledgable KX2 field testers lurking on our lists, including some top-flight SOTA operators. >> >> Trivia question: what's the closest SOTA peak to Hara Arena? >> >> 73, >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> ---- >> http://www.elecraft.com >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> >> >> If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: >> http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/To-new-KX2-owners-tp7617734.html >> To unsubscribe from Elecraft, click here. >> NAML > > > > > ----- > K3 #348 KX3 #2499 > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/To-new-KX2-owners-tp7617734p7617736.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 22:43:16 -0400 > From: Wayne Burdick > To: "yahoo at dupuie.com" > Cc: Elecraft Mailer , "KX3 at yahoogroups.com" > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] To new KX2 owners > Message-ID: <22D00880-886B-42FA-9562-07929EFF9C7B at elecraft.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > ---- > http://www.elecraft.com > >> On May 21, 2016, at 10:28 PM, "Scott Dupuie Yahoo at Dupuie.com [KX3]" wrote: >> >> W8O/SW-012 - Hamilton County HP >> >> >> Closest by one mile. Next is W8O/CT-001. >> >> Do I win a new KX2? >> >> Scott >> AK5SD > > No, sorry. I was hoping to sneak out to activate it ;) > > Wayne > > >> >>> On May 21, 2016, at 9:05 PM, Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com [KX3] wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> If you were among those who scooped up (in record time) the KX2s we brought to Dayton: thanks for your enthusiastic response! (Wish we'd brought more :) >>> >>> I know many of you have already unboxes the radios and are putting them on the air. If you have early questions or comments, feel free to send them to me directly, and/or post here. There are many knowledgable KX2 field testers lurking on our lists, including some top-flight SOTA operators. >>> >>> Trivia question: what's the closest SOTA peak to Hara Arena? >>> >>> 73, >>> Wayne >>> N6KR >>> >>> ---- >>> http://www.elecraft.com >>> >> >> __._,_.___ >> Posted by: Scott Dupuie >> Reply via web post ? Reply to sender ? Reply to group ? Start a New Topic ? 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Terms of Use >> . >> >> >> __,_._,___ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 22:45:22 -0400 > From: Don Wilhelm > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S receive antenna > Message-ID: <57411D42.7010906 at embarqmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Leroy, > > The answer is "yes", but how to do it depends on your K3S physical > configuration. > > If you only have the main receiver (no subRX), you can transmit on ANT1 > or ANT2, and connect a receive only antenna to the ANT IN BNC connector > in the rear (set of 5 BNC jacks). > Select RX ANT. > > If you have the SubRX installed, things get a bit more complicated, and > it depends partly on how you have the subRX AUX input connected and > whether the subRX is set to share the antenna with the main or whether > it is set to use its AUX input. > > If the subRX AUX input TMP cable is connected to the TMP jack on the > KAT3, then the AUX input for the subRX will be from the non-transmit > antenna - in other words, if the main is set to transmit on ANT1, the > SubRX will listen to ANT2 (assuming the subRX is set to use its AUX input). > OTOH, if the AUX input for the SubRX is connected to the BNC AUX input, > then a receive antenna can be connected to the BNC AUX jack and the > subRX will listen to that RX antenna when the subRX is set to use its > AUX input. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > > On 5/21/2016 5:17 PM, lmarion wrote: >> Can the K3S with antenna tuner installed receive on one antenna and transmit on another? >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 19:58:11 -0700 > From: N6MQL > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne > Message-ID: <4AAD7A8D-1FFD-4625-A8DE-CAE515B325D6 at arrl.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Wayne, > > 2 things... First I mentioned to David S in the service department that the K3 is no longer transmitting more than 94 watts out on 17 meters regardless of the SWR/ impedance. David said that this was a known issue due to software and that it was being worked on. However I haven't seen anything about this issue so I'm wondering if this is true and if so has there been any updates to fix it. > Secondly, I'm noticing that my KXPA100 can not produce more that 80 watts on most bands and 60 on others when I don't supply it with as much as 15v DC on a 30 amp supply. This after I did the KX3 / KPXA calibration procedure. Why is it that a "mobile" amp that would normally be powered with 12v DC from a car battery not be able to provide the power output that it is sold as (100 watts)?. Has there been some kind of revisions to the first run boards that I should be exchanging them with? > > Thank you for your answers 73 > > Mike > N6MQL > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 21:11:30 -0600 > From: Ken G Kopp > To: N6MQL , elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Mike, > > A normal "12V" battery in a vehicle is almost never at 12V. About 14.4 > when the engine is running, and about 13.8 after when not under charge. A > battery measuring "12V" is suspect. > > Read the specified input voltage AT THE POWER INPUT connector ... I'll > wager it's lower than what's called for in the manual. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 04:05:40 +0000 > From: "Dauer, Edward" > To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" , > "josh at voodoolab.com" > Subject: [Elecraft] K2 PA Failures and Remote Antenna Switch > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > Josh ? > > Thanks for looking further into it. I looked pretty carefully before the > RCS-4 went into the trash - no electrolytics in the relay box that I could > see. Maybe a manufacturing defect rather than a design defect? But it?s > in a landfill somewhere now so I can?t confirm that. In my profession a > skeptic might call that spoliation of the evidence. But the traces on the > ?scope as I switched through the selector with no transmitter attached > were unmistakable - very large very fast transient spikes. Not a good > thing, whatever the cause. > > I wonder if the diodes that are in the RCS-4 system are actually being > used as flyback or suppressor diodes. The RCS-4 power supply is low > voltage AC, not DC. The diodes in the control box separate the positive > half cycle from the negative half cycle; as I read it the diodes that are > in the relay box select for each relay the half cycle they like, telling > the relays to do what the control switch says it asked them to do given > that there is but one relay voltage conductor - the center lead of the RF > coax. Would they work double-duty as flybacks in that configuration? > Pardon the anthropomorphisms - I have already confessed my intellectual > limitations in the field. > > Hot switching is a theoretical possibility but if that means an > operator-induced lack of synchrony between keying the TX and switching the > antennas, I choose to believe it unlikely. And failures three times and > every time and only when on that antenna system but not on any other? > Improbable, I would think. > > In any case, the system that used the RF coax for the antenna relay > voltages is no longer here. When it was here, I had repeated and rather > expensive PA blowups. As soon as it left everything worked just right. > Reverting to my other profession?s argot, that?s a correlation that > implies causation. Lots of human behavior has been built on less. > > Anyway, life is good again. My K2 is happy. The people who sold me the > new remote switch probably are too. > > Ted, KN1CBR > > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 17 >> Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 13:59:50 -0700 >> From: Josh Fiden >> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 PA Failures and Remote Antenna Switch >> System >> Message-ID: <5740CC46.3070300 at voodoolab.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >> Reviewing the schematic on Ameritron.com for RCS-4 there is a 220uF >> electrolytic across each relay coil. There are also a pair of diodes >> which will clamp the coil voltage, although it might not be immediately >> apparent since they're not directly across the coils. Unlikely that >> these parts are missing since they're not just clamps, but necessary for >> the selector to function. >> >> This does not look like any design flaw of the RCS-4. If I had to guess >> without seeing the hardware, it seems more likely that a failure >> occurred to cause hot switching of the antenna... if that was happening >> repeatedly, the finals wouldn't be happy! >> >> 73, >> Josh W6XU >> >>> Inside the relay box I found no diodes and no capacitors across the >>> relays that might have been used in the design to avoid this kind of >>> problem. >> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 23:33:46 -0500 > From: Richard Fjeld > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Equalizer comment > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed > > By looking at how his signal filled out the voice band in the waterfall, > and also the pattern of it on the display. It is a crude test using a > person's voice. Audio reports were the final test. He wasn't able to > adjust it by monitoring his own voice. > > It would be better if the transmitting station had something like an AF > generator audibly coupled to the microphone to do a freq run within the > voice band at a constant audio level. > > Dick, n0ce > > > On 5/21/2016 9:01 PM, Jim Brown wrote: >> On Sat,5/21/2016 7:54 AM, Richard Fjeld wrote: >>> I was asked to help a ham get the transmit audio on his new import >>> equalized. What an experience! >> >> How did you use the P3 to do this? >> >> 73, Jim K9YC >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to rpfjeld at outlook.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 23:33:59 -0700 > From: Josh Fiden > To: "Dauer, Edward" , "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 PA Failures and Remote Antenna Switch > Message-ID: <574152D7.9050005 at voodoolab.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hi Ted, > > I see that you're right about no big caps on two of the relays. I was > looking at the current version schematic, but there's an older one > posted on W8JI's site with a completely different arrangement which must > be what you had. That older circuit design is less than clever (IMHO). > > When a relay is deenergized, the steering diodes & part of the bridge > are all forward biased forming a clamp of sorts. Not as effective as if > a diode were directly across the coil with short leads. > > I did not mean to imply operator error as the cause of failure. I was > guessing hot switching the antenna related to some intermittent hardware > problem. > > Glad you found the source of the problem. Sounds like you put that old > RCS-4 right where it belongs! > > 73, > Josh W6XU > > On 5/21/2016 9:05 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote: >> Josh ? >> >> Thanks for looking further into it. I looked pretty carefully before the >> RCS-4 went into the trash - no electrolytics in the relay box that I could >> see. Maybe a manufacturing defect rather than a design defect? But it?s >> in a landfill somewhere now so I can?t confirm that. In my profession a >> skeptic might call that spoliation of the evidence. But the traces on the >> ?scope as I switched through the selector with no transmitter attached >> were unmistakable - very large very fast transient spikes. Not a good >> thing, whatever the cause. >> >> I wonder if the diodes that are in the RCS-4 system are actually being >> used as flyback or suppressor diodes. The RCS-4 power supply is low >> voltage AC, not DC. The diodes in the control box separate the positive >> half cycle from the negative half cycle; as I read it the diodes that are >> in the relay box select for each relay the half cycle they like, telling >> the relays to do what the control switch says it asked them to do given >> that there is but one relay voltage conductor - the center lead of the RF >> coax. Would they work double-duty as flybacks in that configuration? >> Pardon the anthropomorphisms - I have already confessed my intellectual >> limitations in the field. >> >> Hot switching is a theoretical possibility but if that means an >> operator-induced lack of synchrony between keying the TX and switching the >> antennas, I choose to believe it unlikely. And failures three times and >> every time and only when on that antenna system but not on any other? >> Improbable, I would think. >> >> In any case, the system that used the RF coax for the antenna relay >> voltages is no longer here. When it was here, I had repeated and rather >> expensive PA blowups. As soon as it left everything worked just right. >> Reverting to my other profession?s argot, that?s a correlation that >> implies causation. Lots of human behavior has been built on less. >> >> Anyway, life is good again. My K2 is happy. The people who sold me the >> new remote switch probably are too. >> >> Ted, KN1CBR >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 00:01:39 -0700 > From: John W Webster > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Weekly SSB Net > Message-ID: <2613B6B1-937D-419E-BB85-C7BE171696AD at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Please consider joining us for the weekly Sunday Elecraft SSB net on 20m. > > Time: 18:00z (UTC) 11am Pacific; 2pm Eastern > Frequency: 14.303.5 > > We would love to have the first KX2 checkin from wherever you are (Dayton even!) > > Current net control, Eric WB9JNZ sent the following list of check-ins over the last > two weeks with particularly difficult propagation. > > 73 > > John, N6JW > > Elecraft Net 5-15-16 > > WB9JNZ Eric IL K3 4017 Net Control NSRC CLUB MEMBER > > W4RKS Jim TX K3 3618 > > KG5ABW Ed MI Yaesu ft 1200 1st time check in > > W8OV Dave TX K3 3139 > > N9TF Gene IL K3S 10057 > > N6JW John CA K3 936 > > K5ZCJ Larry OK K3S 10032 > > NC0JW Jim CO K3 1356 > > K1NW Brian RI K3 4974 > > KC9USC Robert IL KX3 4460 NSRC CLUB MEMBER > > KK6DA David CA K3S 10125 > > W4DML Doug TN K3 6433 > > NS7P Phil OR K3 1826 > > K6WDE Dave CA KX3 4599 > > W0CZ Ken ND K3S 10329 > > W7QHD Kurt AZ K2 1538 > > N9DC/M Maurice IN IC 7000 > > WM6P Steve GA K3 8133 > > KE7HGE Ken WA KX3 4540 QRP > > N4NRW Roger SC K3 1318 > > K7BRR Bill AZ K3 5545 > > VA7ZOO Bill BC KX3 3035 QRP > > K6VDN John NV KX3 8046 > > > > Elecraft Net 5-8-16 > > WB9JNZ Eric IL K3 4017 Net Control > > NM7J Steve NV K3 2105 > > K5ZCJ Larry OK K3S 10032 > > NC0JW Jim CO K3 1356 > > WB5JJA Ray OK K3 7877 > > W7SNR Bob AZ K3 343 > > W2RWA Dick NY K3 2603 > > KK6DA David CA K3S 10125 > > W4RKS Jim TX K3 3618 > > N6JW John CA K3 936 > > KD6SBK Bruce AZ FT 857 > > W7QHD Kurt AZ K2 1538 > > AE7MX August AZ unknown radio > > N9SRA Steve IL K3S 10563 NSRC CLUB MEMBER > > K6WDE Dave CA KX3 4599 > > K7BRR Bill AZ K3 5545 > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 06:08:00 -0700 > From: George Rebong > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] For sale P3-SVGA-Monitor > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Selling my Elecraft P3 High performance Panadaptor with P3SVGA Video Adapter and P3TXMON TX Monitor Power and Waveform Display Adapter with > DCHF-2000 1.8-54 MHz, 1- 2000W HF 2000W Max directional coupler. > $950 includes shipping to CONUS. Non Smoker. Paypal or USPS money order. George KE6TE Call 916-600-2717. > > Sent from my iPad > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 09:27:57 -0400 > From: Steve Ellington > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] SP-3 Speakers SOLD > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > They're gone. > Thanks to the multitude who replied! > N4LQ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 09:52:14 -0500 > From: David Orman > To: N6MQL > Cc: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Another question - how long/what gauge is the wire running to your KXPA100? > I wouldn't expect enough drop to pull your voltage down to a point at which > it cuts back power, but you never know. Check your KX3 for the source > voltage when transmitting, that'll tell you if you're dropping below the > threshold for power reduction. For example, 16 gauge copper will drop about > 1.2 volts on a 10 foot run @ 15A current draw. > > On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 9:58 PM, N6MQL wrote: > >> Wayne, >> >> 2 things... First I mentioned to David S in the service department that >> the K3 is no longer transmitting more than 94 watts out on 17 meters >> regardless of the SWR/ impedance. David said that this was a known issue >> due to software and that it was being worked on. However I haven't seen >> anything about this issue so I'm wondering if this is true and if so has >> there been any updates to fix it. >> Secondly, I'm noticing that my KXPA100 can not produce more that 80 watts >> on most bands and 60 on others when I don't supply it with as much as 15v >> DC on a 30 amp supply. This after I did the KX3 / KPXA calibration >> procedure. Why is it that a "mobile" amp that would normally be powered >> with 12v DC from a car battery not be able to provide the power output that >> it is sold as (100 watts)?. Has there been some kind of revisions to the >> first run boards that I should be exchanging them with? >> >> Thank you for your answers 73 >> >> Mike >> N6MQL >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ormandj at corenode.com >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 11:40:43 -0400 > From: Nr4c > To: David Orman > Cc: N6MQL , Elecraft Reflector > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Or just use the Voltage reading displayed on the K3/KX3 front panel. It's quite accurate. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On May 22, 2016, at 10:52 AM, David Orman wrote: >> >> Another question - how long/what gauge is the wire running to your KXPA100? >> I wouldn't expect enough drop to pull your voltage down to a point at which >> it cuts back power, but you never know. Check your KX3 for the source >> voltage when transmitting, that'll tell you if you're dropping below the >> threshold for power reduction. For example, 16 gauge copper will drop about >> 1.2 volts on a 10 foot run @ 15A current draw. >> >>> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 9:58 PM, N6MQL wrote: >>> >>> Wayne, >>> >>> 2 things... First I mentioned to David S in the service department that >>> the K3 is no longer transmitting more than 94 watts out on 17 meters >>> regardless of the SWR/ impedance. David said that this was a known issue >>> due to software and that it was being worked on. However I haven't seen >>> anything about this issue so I'm wondering if this is true and if so has >>> there been any updates to fix it. >>> Secondly, I'm noticing that my KXPA100 can not produce more that 80 watts >>> on most bands and 60 on others when I don't supply it with as much as 15v >>> DC on a 30 amp supply. This after I did the KX3 / KPXA calibration >>> procedure. Why is it that a "mobile" amp that would normally be powered >>> with 12v DC from a car battery not be able to provide the power output that >>> it is sold as (100 watts)?. Has there been some kind of revisions to the >>> first run boards that I should be exchanging them with? >>> >>> Thank you for your answers 73 >>> >>> Mike >>> N6MQL >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to ormandj at corenode.com >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 08:58:12 -0700 (MST) > From: Bob N3MNT > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne > Message-ID: <1463932692247-7617749.post at n2.nabble.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I noticed that my KXPA100 output was a little low so I checked the output of > my 30A supply. It was a little low. I adjusted it up from 13.6V to 14.0 > and all is well. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-and-KX3-questions-for-Wayne-tp7617739p7617749.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 16:05:24 GMT > From: "ae5x at juno.com" > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] [KX2] To new KX2 owners > Message-ID: <20160522.110524.8314.0 at webmail51.vgs.untd.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > I'm glad you left some back in Aptos so that us stay-at-homes had stock from which to order :-) > > John AE5X > http://ae5x.blogspot.com/ > > > _________________________________________ > >> If you were among those who scooped up (in record time) the KX2s we brought to Dayton: thanks for your enthusiastic response! (Wish we'd brought more :) > ____________________________________________________________ > The New York Times > Finding Love Again, This Time With A Man > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5741d8ef922e758ef57a0st03vuc > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 12:19:22 -0500 > From: Art Nienhouse > To: Harry Yingst via Elecraft > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne > Message-ID: <5741EA1A.1070504 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed > > */My experience with my KXPA-100 that the power output would not ever > get to the advertised 100 watts on 40 meters using the supplied power > cable that came with my kit was worse. > > Even after setting the 45 amp power supply to the highest out put it > would do, the radio reported 13.8 volts on receive, on key down it would > drop well below ( on some bands ) to 12 volts. > > After replacing the pwr cable with a 10 gauge wire the supply reported > at the radio is 14.5 rx, tx is 13.8 the power output is at 100 watts > most bands 110 on one band and the only band I really care about is 40 > where it always has been below the other bands is now at 99 to 100 watts. > > I believe that there was a firmware update that made this issue worse as > it was at one time doing around 80 to 85 watts on 40 meters which I was > living with, most other bands 100 to 110 watts, using the supplied > power cable that came with my kit. > > If its sold as a mobile amp then it should be capable of doing the > advertised 100 watts ....at 12 volts.... ......( I know the advertizing > stated at 13.8 volts ) ......to achieve the 100 watts. > > To be completely truthful it should be stated what can be expected for > power out at 12 v connected to a car deep cycle battery with the > supplied power cable...mine did 60 watts on 40 meters with the latest > bata firmware. > > At the very least a ( quality 10 gauge power cable ) should be supplied > with the amp, and all 100 watt output radios. > I took the advice of this group to purchase Powerwerx Red/Black power > cable not the cheapest however quality is very good. > With my power supply set to 14.4 volts I get the advertized 100 watts now. > > Regards > Art > ka9zap > /* > On 5/21/2016 9:58 PM, N6MQL wrote: >> Wayne, >> >> 2 things... First I mentioned to David S in the service department that the K3 is no longer transmitting more than 94 watts out on 17 meters regardless of the SWR/ impedance. David said that this was a known issue due to software and that it was being worked on. However I haven't seen anything about this issue so I'm wondering if this is true and if so has there been any updates to fix it. >> Secondly, I'm noticing that my KXPA100 can not produce more that 80 watts on most bands and 60 on others when I don't supply it with as much as 15v DC on a 30 amp supply. This after I did the KX3 / KPXA calibration procedure. Why is it that a "mobile" amp that would normally be powered with 12v DC from a car battery not be able to provide the power output that it is sold as (100 watts)?. Has there been some kind of revisions to the first run boards that I should be exchanging them with? >> >> Thank you for your answers 73 >> >> Mike >> N6MQL >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ka9zap at gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 11:52:32 -0600 > From: Ken G Kopp > To: Nr4c , elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Bill, > > The front panel voltage display on a KX3 will -not- be accurate > for the voltage at the input- power connector of the KXPA100. > This voltage must be measured AT THE CONNECTOR on the > rear of the KXPA100 to know what's being delivered to the PA. > > 73! > > K0PP > > On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Nr4c wrote: > >> Or just use the Voltage reading displayed on the K3/KX3 front panel. It's >> quite accurate. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ...nr4c. bill >> >> >>> On May 22, 2016, at 10:52 AM, David Orman wrote: >>> >>> Another question - how long/what gauge is the wire running to your >> KXPA100? >>> I wouldn't expect enough drop to pull your voltage down to a point at >> which >>> it cuts back power, but you never know. Check your KX3 for the source >>> voltage when transmitting, that'll tell you if you're dropping below the >>> threshold for power reduction. For example, 16 gauge copper will drop >> about >>> 1.2 volts on a 10 foot run @ 15A current draw. >>> >>>> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 9:58 PM, N6MQL wrote: >>>> >>>> Wayne, >>>> >>>> 2 things... First I mentioned to David S in the service department that >>>> the K3 is no longer transmitting more than 94 watts out on 17 meters >>>> regardless of the SWR/ impedance. David said that this was a known issue >>>> due to software and that it was being worked on. However I haven't seen >>>> anything about this issue so I'm wondering if this is true and if so has >>>> there been any updates to fix it. >>>> Secondly, I'm noticing that my KXPA100 can not produce more that 80 >> watts >>>> on most bands and 60 on others when I don't supply it with as much as >> 15v >>>> DC on a 30 amp supply. This after I did the KX3 / KPXA calibration >>>> procedure. Why is it that a "mobile" amp that would normally be powered >>>> with 12v DC from a car battery not be able to provide the power output >> that >>>> it is sold as (100 watts)?. Has there been some kind of revisions to the >>>> first run boards that I should be exchanging them with? >>>> >>>> Thank you for your answers 73 >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> N6MQL >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to ormandj at corenode.com >>>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to kengkopp at gmail.com >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 11:13:26 -0700 > From: Walter Underwood > To: Elecraft List > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > According to the manual, you can use the KXPA Utility to read the voltmeter inside the KXPA100. > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > >> On May 22, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Ken G Kopp wrote: >> >> Bill, >> >> The front panel voltage display on a KX3 will -not- be accurate >> for the voltage at the input- power connector of the KXPA100. >> This voltage must be measured AT THE CONNECTOR on the >> rear of the KXPA100 to know what's being delivered to the PA. >> >> 73! >> >> K0PP >> >> On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Nr4c wrote: >> >>> Or just use the Voltage reading displayed on the K3/KX3 front panel. It's >>> quite accurate. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> ...nr4c. bill >>> >>> >>>> On May 22, 2016, at 10:52 AM, David Orman wrote: >>>> >>>> Another question - how long/what gauge is the wire running to your >>> KXPA100? >>>> I wouldn't expect enough drop to pull your voltage down to a point at >>> which >>>> it cuts back power, but you never know. Check your KX3 for the source >>>> voltage when transmitting, that'll tell you if you're dropping below the >>>> threshold for power reduction. For example, 16 gauge copper will drop >>> about >>>> 1.2 volts on a 10 foot run @ 15A current draw. >>>> >>>>> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 9:58 PM, N6MQL wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Wayne, >>>>> >>>>> 2 things... First I mentioned to David S in the service department that >>>>> the K3 is no longer transmitting more than 94 watts out on 17 meters >>>>> regardless of the SWR/ impedance. David said that this was a known issue >>>>> due to software and that it was being worked on. However I haven't seen >>>>> anything about this issue so I'm wondering if this is true and if so has >>>>> there been any updates to fix it. >>>>> Secondly, I'm noticing that my KXPA100 can not produce more that 80 >>> watts >>>>> on most bands and 60 on others when I don't supply it with as much as >>> 15v >>>>> DC on a 30 amp supply. This after I did the KX3 / KPXA calibration >>>>> procedure. Why is it that a "mobile" amp that would normally be powered >>>>> with 12v DC from a car battery not be able to provide the power output >>> that >>>>> it is sold as (100 watts)?. Has there been some kind of revisions to the >>>>> first run boards that I should be exchanging them with? >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for your answers 73 >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> N6MQL >>>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>>> >>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>>> Message delivered to ormandj at corenode.com >>>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to kengkopp at gmail.com >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 20 > Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 14:15:05 -0400 > From: "Alan D. Wilcox" > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Tuneup, Rescue, build your K2, K1, KX1, others > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hello, > > Have you always wanted an Elecraft? A KX1, K1, K2, K3, whatever? > Does your K2 need a tuneup? > I build and service them all! > > See what my clients have said about my construction and service work at > http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6768 > > Photos of the popular "Twins" -- the KPA100 and KAT100 in EC2 enclosure -- are at > http://wilcoxengineering.com/kpa100-in-ec2/ > > In addition to tuning your rig, I can also rescue a building project you might have started some time ago. > > Cheers, > Alan > > Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX (K2-5373, K3-40) > 570-478-0736 (cell, text) > http://amazon.com/author/alandwilcox > Williamsport, PA 17701 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 21 > Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 14:27:29 -0400 > From: Ed Hoeck > To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] sub files > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I keep getting the error message from Spot Collector that the file > BandModes.txt does not exist how do I correct this problem. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 22 > Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 11:40:03 -0700 > From: "kevinr at coho.net" > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement > Message-ID: <9c2ef4f1-614b-2123-700b-aac46098de99 at coho.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > After a cold, wet week at least the propagation has marginally > improved. A new Elecraft rig was announced on Wednesday. It looks like > a good fit for those of us who work a little radio into our hiking, > canoeing, or XC skiing sojourns. I was reading history (which I am > wont to do) and found a QRP rig circa 1965. It was interesting to > compare Elecraft's new rig with this design : > http://www.militaryradio.com/spyradio/delco5300.html. How things have > changed! > > Please join us on: > 14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday) > 7045 kHz at 0100z Monday (6 PM PDT Sunday) > > 73, > Kevin. KD5ONS > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 23 > Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 11:46:13 -0700 > From: N6MQL > To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne > Message-ID: <5741FE75.9040801 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Although I appreciate all of your answers I specifically asked these > questions of Wayne because I was making a point to let him know of my > disapproval of the fact that the KXPA100 amp is incapable of running a > full 100 watts on a standard 12v battery. Furthermore I was trying to > get an explanation from the head designer as to why my amp that has a > 30amp power supply at 15v (read on the KX3) or 15.4v at the input is > unable to transmit at a full 100 watts on all bands. Yes, I have the > supplied cable with fuses attached, it's only 3 feet long, and the > transmit vs' receive voltage is less than a volt difference. So all of > those bases have been covered. As noted I have also completed the KX3 > power configuration, and the KX3 to KPA matching alignment procedure... > I was alluded to the idea that there were a second revision of boards > that came out for the KXPA100 after the early models were shipped. I > have also heard that those boards help increase the output power. > Therefore I was asking WAYNE if this were the case, and perhaps having > them would help this situation. As for the 12v not running the amp, this > IS an issue because at field day we have 150 Ah batteries that run 12 > volts, and it would be nice to have my 100 watt amp run a full 100 > watts. Again, this was designed as a portable amp. I would expect that > at 12v we should be able to get the full rating out of it. > > On another note, what may have also gotten lost due to all those trying > to be helpful, but cluttering my original post. I have a K3 that no > longer puts out 100 watts on 17 meters but does on all other bands. I > was told this was a software issue by Tech Support. I would like > confirmation FROM WAYNE that this is the case, and when he may have time > to address it. If not, I would like to know why I was told this. > > So again, as much as I appreciate all of you trying to help with these > questions, I would much prefer that Wayne address them personally. > Thank you, > > -- > Michael > N6MQL > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 24 > Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 12:32:46 -0700 > From: Fred Jensen > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Equalizer comment > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > One of the first things I noticed after getting the P3 and poking around > the phone bands was how frequently a station's audio was concentrated > right next to the suppressed carrier. > > K9YC helped me set my TX EQ, and the goal was to cut the lows [next to > the carrier frequency] which consume a lot of the RF power and > contribute little if anything to intelligibility. With a 5 or 6 KHz > span, the display is very striking and signals with a desirable spectrum > seem to be a bit rare. > > I don't frequent SSB very often, but when I do, usually in an NAQP or > Sweepstakes, I regularly get unsolicited "Great audio" comments with > Jim's settings. > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > - Northern California Contest Club > - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 > - www.cqp.org > > On 5/21/2016 9:33 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote: >> By looking at how his signal filled out the voice band in the waterfall, >> and also the pattern of it on the display. It is a crude test using a >> person's voice. Audio reports were the final test. He wasn't able to >> adjust it by monitoring his own voice. >> >> It would be better if the transmitting station had something like an AF >> generator audibly coupled to the microphone to do a freq run within the >> voice band at a constant audio level. >> >> Dick, n0ce >> >> On 5/21/2016 9:01 PM, Jim Brown wrote: >>> On Sat,5/21/2016 7:54 AM, Richard Fjeld wrote: >>>> I was asked to help a ham get the transmit audio on his new import >>>> equalized. What an experience! >>> >>> How did you use the P3 to do this? >>> >>> 73, Jim K9YC > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 25 > Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 13:04:13 -0700 > From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" > To: "'Ken G Kopp'" , "'Nr4c'" > , > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne > Message-ID: <005101d1b465$1d25ad00$57710700$@biz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Actually it is a good measurement when the KXPA100 and KX3 are set up > 'normally' with power to the KX3 supplied via the KXPA100. > > What the KX3 will display is the voltage present at the input to the KXPA100 > (because that's where the KX3 is getting its power) less any voltage drop in > the cable from the KXPA100 to the KX3. > > So if the voltage reads good at the KX3 with that setup, it's good at the > KXPA100. > > 73, Ron AC7AC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ken G > Kopp > Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 10:53 AM > To: Nr4c; elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne > > Bill, > > The front panel voltage display on a KX3 will -not- be accurate for the > voltage at the input- power connector of the KXPA100. > This voltage must be measured AT THE CONNECTOR on the rear of the KXPA100 to > know what's being delivered to the PA. > > 73! > > K0PP > > On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Nr4c wrote: > >> Or just use the Voltage reading displayed on the K3/KX3 front panel. >> It's quite accurate. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ...nr4c. bill >> >> >>> On May 22, 2016, at 10:52 AM, David Orman wrote: >>> >>> Another question - how long/what gauge is the wire running to your >> KXPA100? >>> I wouldn't expect enough drop to pull your voltage down to a point >>> at >> which >>> it cuts back power, but you never know. Check your KX3 for the >>> source voltage when transmitting, that'll tell you if you're >>> dropping below the threshold for power reduction. For example, 16 >>> gauge copper will drop >> about >>> 1.2 volts on a 10 foot run @ 15A current draw. >>> >>>> On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 9:58 PM, N6MQL wrote: >>>> >>>> Wayne, >>>> >>>> 2 things... First I mentioned to David S in the service department >>>> that the K3 is no longer transmitting more than 94 watts out on 17 >>>> meters regardless of the SWR/ impedance. David said that this was a >>>> known issue due to software and that it was being worked on. >>>> However I haven't seen anything about this issue so I'm wondering >>>> if this is true and if so has there been any updates to fix it. >>>> Secondly, I'm noticing that my KXPA100 can not produce more that 80 >> watts >>>> on most bands and 60 on others when I don't supply it with as much >>>> as >> 15v >>>> DC on a 30 amp supply. This after I did the KX3 / KPXA calibration >>>> procedure. Why is it that a "mobile" amp that would normally be >>>> powered with 12v DC from a car battery not be able to provide the >>>> power output >> that >>>> it is sold as (100 watts)?. Has there been some kind of revisions >>>> to the first run boards that I should be exchanging them with? >>>> >>>> Thank you for your answers 73 >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> N6MQL >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >>>> email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >>>> ormandj at corenode.com >>>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >>> email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >>> nr4c at widomaker.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email >> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >> kengkopp at gmail.com >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to ron at elecraft.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 26 > Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 16:09:07 -0500 > From: Kevin Stover > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne > Message-ID: <2fae177f-8241-9645-3897-525be74ae69e at mediacombb.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > You do know what's going on this weekend right? > I'm sure once he is back from Dayton he will give your questions all of > they attention they deserve. > What sort of watt meter are we measuring the output with? > > On 5/22/2016 1:46 PM, N6MQL wrote: >> Although I appreciate all of your answers I specifically asked these >> questions of Wayne because I was making a point to let him know of my >> disapproval of the fact that the KXPA100 amp is incapable of running a >> full 100 watts on a standard 12v battery. Furthermore I was trying to >> get an explanation from the head designer as to why my amp that has a >> 30amp power supply at 15v (read on the KX3) or 15.4v at the input is >> unable to transmit at a full 100 watts on all bands. Yes, I have the >> supplied cable with fuses attached, it's only 3 feet long, and the >> transmit vs' receive voltage is less than a volt difference. So all >> of those bases have been covered. As noted I have also completed the >> KX3 power configuration, and the KX3 to KPA matching alignment >> procedure... >> I was alluded to the idea that there were a second revision of boards >> that came out for the KXPA100 after the early models were shipped. I >> have also heard that those boards help increase the output power. >> Therefore I was asking WAYNE if this were the case, and perhaps having >> them would help this situation. As for the 12v not running the amp, >> this IS an issue because at field day we have 150 Ah batteries that >> run 12 volts, and it would be nice to have my 100 watt amp run a full >> 100 watts. Again, this was designed as a portable amp. I would expect >> that at 12v we should be able to get the full rating out of it. >> >> On another note, what may have also gotten lost due to all those >> trying to be helpful, but cluttering my original post. I have a K3 >> that no longer puts out 100 watts on 17 meters but does on all other >> bands. I was told this was a software issue by Tech Support. I would >> like confirmation FROM WAYNE that this is the case, and when he may >> have time to address it. If not, I would like to know why I was told >> this. >> >> So again, as much as I appreciate all of you trying to help with these >> questions, I would much prefer that Wayne address them personally. >> Thank you, >> > > > -- > R. Kevin Stover > AC0H > ARRL > FISTS #11993 > SKCC #215 > NAQCC #3441 > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 27 > Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 14:46:00 -0700 > From: Jim Brown > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne > Message-ID: <57422898.9050902 at audiosystemsgroup.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > On Sun,5/22/2016 11:46 AM, N6MQL wrote: >> Although I appreciate all of your answers I specifically asked these >> questions of Wayne because I was making a point to let him know of my >> disapproval of the fact that the KXPA100 amp is incapable of running a >> full 100 watts on a standard 12v battery. > > Michael, > > A careful reading of the online data sheet for the KXPA100 is > instructive here. > > http://www.elecraft.com/KXPA100/kxpa100.htm > > The first line says "100 watts at 13.8 V, 1.8 to 29.7 MHz and 80 watts > 50-54 MHz PEP CW/SSB/DATA; ? 1 dB" > > Two points: First, the amplifier is rated for 13.8V, NOT 12V. Second, > the rating is +/1 dB, which is +/- 20% power. Thus, 80W on the HF bands > is within spec for 13.8V at the amplifier terminals. > > The second line says "13.8 VDC powered; 20 A typical current drain (11 V > with lower output. 15 V max)" > > This clearly means that the unit is designed and rated for 13.8VDC, can > be operated from 11V to 15VDC, and will have reduced output at lower > supply voltages. > > Obviously, Ohm's Law dictates that resistance of the DC supply > conductors will reduce power supply voltage at the amplifier terminals, > so while we may have 12V or 13.8V at our battery terminals, the voltage > at the end of 6-12 ft of cable will be a bit lower with a 20A load. For > example, the drop in 6 ft of #10 is 0.24v; for #12, it's 0.38V, and for > #14, it's 0.6V. > > As others have noted, the operating voltage in so-called 12V DC power > systems using lead-acid batteries is not 12V, but rather 13.8V. If you > buy an AC power supply for ham gear, it will likely leave the factory > with its voltage regulator set for 13.8V. Open the manual or the spec > sheet for nearly all ham gear and you will find the supply voltage > specified as 13.8VDC. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > You must be a subscriber to post. > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > ------------------------------ > > End of Elecraft Digest, Vol 145, Issue 27 > ***************************************** From n9tf at comcast.net Mon May 23 08:17:03 2016 From: n9tf at comcast.net (Gene Gabry) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 07:17:03 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? In-Reply-To: References: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com> <20160522222431.54B27149B437@mailman.qth.net> <20160523025227.13E20149B4AD@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: <005d01d1b4ed$04493350$0cdb99f0$@net> Same thing happens here with K3S SN 10057. I have no digital SW running or rig control at the time of power down. If I set PTT to DTR and power down for some period of time, PTT defaults back to OFF when power up. Always done that since day one. I thought there was some update done in latest firmware to PTT-KEY line to default those to OFF so when PC was restarted K3S would not go into TX? Gene, N9TF -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of danny.higgins Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 1:34 AM To: Don Wilhelm; Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? WSJT not running ? K3S not connected to PC. I still need to reset PTT-KEY after a power cycle ? it always goes back to OFF-OFF. The same thing happens in USB or DATA modes. Danny, G3XVR From: Don Wilhelm Sent: 23 May 2016 06:26 To: danny.higgins; Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? Danny, Do a test without WSJT running. Set PTT key config to DTR - OFF, then cycle power on the K3S. Does that setting survive the power cycle? If so, it is not a K3S problem, look to the WSJT software for the solution. If it does not survive the power cycle, contact K3Support. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/23/2016 1:08 AM, danny.higgins wrote: > I have this on my K3S with the latest firmware. I use WSJT to key the K3S via the USB port and I operate in USB mode, not Data. Every time I power the K3S OFF I need to reset the PTT Key config to DTR ? OFF. > > Danny, G3XVR > > > From: Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO > Sent: 23 May 2016 04:29 > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? > > Which radio is it? I've never seen this on my K3. > If you are running some kind of rig control software, try it with the > software not running. > > 73, > Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO > Rehovot, Israel > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > > On 23 May 2016 05:51, Ken Arck wrote: >> Sounds like a call to Elecraft tomorrow because this is repeatable! >> >> >> >> >> At 07:42 PM 5/22/2016, Cady, Fred wrote: >>> That doesn't sound right. I don't think mine has ever changed. >>> Cheers, >>> Fred KE7X >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: Elecraft on behalf of Ken >>> Arck >>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:23 PM >>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? >>> >>> I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be >>> non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts to >>> OFF - OFF. I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't >>> >>> Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and >>> that setting reverts. >>> >>> Ken > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > danny.higgins at keme.co.uk > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > donwilh at embarqmail.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n9tf at comcast.net From n9tf at comcast.net Mon May 23 08:30:02 2016 From: n9tf at comcast.net (Gene Gabry) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 07:30:02 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? In-Reply-To: <005d01d1b4ed$04493350$0cdb99f0$@net> References: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com> <20160522222431.54B27149B437@mailman.qth.net> <20160523025227.13E20149B4AD@mailman.qth.net> <005d01d1b4ed$04493350$0cdb99f0$@net> Message-ID: <005e01d1b4ee$d47be300$7d73a900$@net> Check the updates to latest firmware version. There is a safe mode and Unsafe mode for the PTT-Key line. In Unsafe mode PTT-Key line should not turn off. * PTT/KEY USE WITH THE USB PORT IMPROVED: PC applications can activate PTT and KEY at the K3S via the USB port's RTS/DTR signals. However, initial setup of the rig's USB port by the PC may cause pulsed or continuous activation of the transmitter. This can happen if the computer is turned on after the K3S, or if the USB cable is not connected. There is now a "Safe" mode (the default) which disables PTT-KEY transmit until the K3S receives a command via USB, such as a read of the rig's VFO frequency. To turn on safe mode on/off, go into CONFIG:PTT-KEY and tap '1' to select "USB SAFE" or "UNSAFE". Exit the menu and turn the K3S off/on. Applications that use PTT-KEY via USB but never send commands may require "UNSAFE" mode. In this case, unwanted transmit can be avoided by turning the PC on before the K3S. Gene, N9TF -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gene Gabry Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 7:17 AM To: 'danny.higgins'; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? Same thing happens here with K3S SN 10057. I have no digital SW running or rig control at the time of power down. If I set PTT to DTR and power down for some period of time, PTT defaults back to OFF when power up. Always done that since day one. I thought there was some update done in latest firmware to PTT-KEY line to default those to OFF so when PC was restarted K3S would not go into TX? Gene, N9TF -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of danny.higgins Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 1:34 AM To: Don Wilhelm; Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? WSJT not running ? K3S not connected to PC. I still need to reset PTT-KEY after a power cycle ? it always goes back to OFF-OFF. The same thing happens in USB or DATA modes. Danny, G3XVR From: Don Wilhelm Sent: 23 May 2016 06:26 To: danny.higgins; Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? Danny, Do a test without WSJT running. Set PTT key config to DTR - OFF, then cycle power on the K3S. Does that setting survive the power cycle? If so, it is not a K3S problem, look to the WSJT software for the solution. If it does not survive the power cycle, contact K3Support. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/23/2016 1:08 AM, danny.higgins wrote: > I have this on my K3S with the latest firmware. I use WSJT to key the K3S via the USB port and I operate in USB mode, not Data. Every time I power the K3S OFF I need to reset the PTT Key config to DTR ? OFF. > > Danny, G3XVR > > > From: Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO > Sent: 23 May 2016 04:29 > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? > > Which radio is it? I've never seen this on my K3. > If you are running some kind of rig control software, try it with the > software not running. > > 73, > Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO > Rehovot, Israel > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > > On 23 May 2016 05:51, Ken Arck wrote: >> Sounds like a call to Elecraft tomorrow because this is repeatable! >> >> >> >> >> At 07:42 PM 5/22/2016, Cady, Fred wrote: >>> That doesn't sound right. I don't think mine has ever changed. >>> Cheers, >>> Fred KE7X >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: Elecraft on behalf of Ken >>> Arck >>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:23 PM >>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? >>> >>> I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be >>> non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts to >>> OFF - OFF. I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't >>> >>> Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and >>> that setting reverts. >>> >>> Ken > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > danny.higgins at keme.co.uk > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > donwilh at embarqmail.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n9tf at comcast.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n9tf at comcast.net From w0eb at cox.net Mon May 23 08:31:34 2016 From: w0eb at cox.net (Jim Sheldon) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 12:31:34 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? In-Reply-To: <005d01d1b4ed$04493350$0cdb99f0$@net> Message-ID: It may be something unique to the K3S. My older K3 didn't do it, but the new K3S (#10641) always reverts to PTT KEY OFF-OFF on a power cycle. must be a glitch in the FW. It IS completely repeatable as the OP stated. Definitely call Elecraft Support on it. Jim - W0EB ------ Original Message ------ From: "Gene Gabry" To: "'danny.higgins'" ; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Sent: 5/23/2016 7:17:03 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? >Same thing happens here with K3S SN 10057. I have no digital SW running >or rig control at the time of power down. If I set PTT to DTR and power >down for some period of time, PTT defaults back to OFF when power up. >Always done that since day one. I thought there was some update done in >latest firmware to PTT-KEY line to default those to OFF so when PC was >restarted K3S would not go into TX? > > >>> >>> At 07:42 PM 5/22/2016, Cady, Fred wrote: >>>> That doesn't sound right. I don't think mine has ever changed. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Fred KE7X >>>> >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: Elecraft on behalf of Ken >>>> Arck >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:23 PM >>>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? >>>> >>>> I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be >>>> non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts >>>>to >>>> OFF - OFF. I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't >>>> >>>> Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and >>>> that setting reverts. >>>> >>>> Ken >> >> From raysills3 at verizon.net Mon May 23 08:46:29 2016 From: raysills3 at verizon.net (Ray Sills) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 08:46:29 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne In-Reply-To: <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <849DEF49-9A26-4C9F-8F82-D1DCD576275D@verizon.net> And following up with Jim?s posting about the KXPA100 specs: At the far end of a QSO, the difference between an 80 watt signal vs a 100 watt signal would be difficult to measure, let alone perceive by ear. In most cases, a 6 dB difference in level is clearly noticeable, and that would be 25 watts vs 100 watts. A 3 dB difference can be heard by most people, but a 1 or 2 dB difference is almost impossible to notice by ear. So, even if you are operating with just 12 V, at the input to the amp? don?t sweat it. If you can?t make the QSO with 80 watts, you aren?t going to make it with 100 watts? not on HF, with SSB or CW. 73 de Ray K2ULR KX3 #211 > On May 22, 2016, at 5:46 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > > On Sun,5/22/2016 11:46 AM, N6MQL wrote: >> Although I appreciate all of your answers I specifically asked these questions of Wayne because I was making a point to let him know of my disapproval of the fact that the KXPA100 amp is incapable of running a full 100 watts on a standard 12v battery. > From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Mon May 23 09:35:18 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 05:35:18 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne Message-ID: <201605231335.u4NDZI1i002730@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> I am getting 100w on all HF bands with about 4w drive. Supply voltage is 13.71v in Rx and runs 13.12v with 100w output and 13.07v with 110w output with 5.2w drive (tests on 14-MHz into a Bird Power meter (100H) and Bird Load). I compared the reading of the 100H element at 50w on 6m with a 50A element with nearly identical reading. But on 6m it takes 7.2w drive and I only see 72w output at 13.15v. Advancing drive higher engages the auto-ATT, so it would suggest drive is high enough. A little disappointed that 6m did not develop output per spec (80w) though I guess no one would note the difference of 72 vs 80. I am running a 50A Astron PS which indicates 13.71v at the PS terminal I have not measured what that is under load of the KXPA-100 as PS terminals are difficult to reach. Voltage measured with Fluke model 17B+. I may try adjusting the Astron to 14.2v to see if that will improve output; assuming similar 0.6v drop under load would result in 13.6v. I substituted a No.10 PP power cord for the No.12 cord provided with the amp with no discernable difference. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From alsopb at comcast.net Mon May 23 09:36:33 2016 From: alsopb at comcast.net (brian) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 13:36:33 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne In-Reply-To: <849DEF49-9A26-4C9F-8F82-D1DCD576275D@verizon.net> References: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com> <849DEF49-9A26-4C9F-8F82-D1DCD576275D@verizon.net> Message-ID: <57430761.5060704@comcast.net> Ray, 1 dB is generally agreed upon to be the minimum detectible difference in audio that people can detect. Of course, these measurements don't include QRM, QSB or AGC action. Big gun stations will kill to pick up 1 or 2 dB extra gain somewhere. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 5/23/2016 12:46 PM, Ray Sills wrote: > And following up with Jim?s posting about the KXPA100 specs: At the far end of a QSO, the difference between an 80 watt signal vs a 100 watt signal would be difficult to measure, let alone perceive by ear. In most cases, a 6 dB difference in level is clearly noticeable, and that would be 25 watts vs 100 watts. A 3 dB difference can be heard by most people, but a 1 or 2 dB difference is almost impossible to notice by ear. > > So, even if you are operating with just 12 V, at the input to the amp? don?t sweat it. If you can?t make the QSO with 80 watts, you aren?t going to make it with 100 watts? not on HF, with SSB or CW. > > 73 de Ray > K2ULR > KX3 #211 > > >> On May 22, 2016, at 5:46 PM, Jim Brown wrote: >> >> On Sun,5/22/2016 11:46 AM, N6MQL wrote: >>> Although I appreciate all of your answers I specifically asked these questions of Wayne because I was making a point to let him know of my disapproval of the fact that the KXPA100 amp is incapable of running a full 100 watts on a standard 12v battery. >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to alsopb at comcast.net > From km4ik.ian at gmail.com Mon May 23 09:40:53 2016 From: km4ik.ian at gmail.com (Ian - Ham) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 09:40:53 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000901d1b4f8$ba18c690$2e4a53b0$@gmail.com> Deni, I upgraded all supported computers (I have one Dell laptop which is not supported for Windows 10) in my home to Windows 10 months ago, and that includes my shack computer. As an IT consultant, I have to stay on top of changes Microsoft makes. I have had no issues with any of the ham radio software I run on my shack computer. All are running fine under Windows 10. I run all the relevant Elecraft utilities for my K-line, KAT500, and KPA500; N1MM Logger+; VE7CC spotter; HRD; and probably a couple of other applications I'm forgetting. In fact, I am a beta tester and evangelist for HRD and was just with their team in Dayton. HRD is developed under Windows 10 and was being demoed on Windows 10 computers at Dayton, so if you have issues with that application, you should open a ticket with them. My apologies to any who are offended by the slightly off-topic diversion there. The short answer, Deni, is you should not have any issues with the major amateur radio applications under Windows 10. 73 es gud dx, --Ian Ian Kahn, KM4IK Roswell, GA EM74ua km4ik.ian at gmail.com 10-10 #74624, North Georgia Chapter #2038 PODXS 070 #1962 K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468 -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of F5vjc Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 3:13 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice. Hi, I have an Elecraft K line station and up to now have been running all my software on an aging Win 7 32 bit machine. No real problems but I'm in the process of building an updated PC and have a dilemma. Do I go with Win 7 Pro 64 Bit or Win 10 for the OS? I know some of you will have taken this path already, so how do you find WIN 10 with typical Ham radio software? I run Win4K3, N1MM, HRD, Log4OM, CW Skimmer, NaP3 and numerous other Ham radio stuff. I have Win 10 on my laptop (free update from Win 7) but not used for the Ham shack and find it rather irritating, but this is probably due to unfamiliarity. Do you guys prefer Win 7 or 10 for Ham radio apps. Any advice appreciated, thanks. 73, Deni - F5VJC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to km4ik.ian at gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From btippett at alum.mit.edu Mon May 23 09:49:49 2016 From: btippett at alum.mit.edu (Bill W4ZV) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 06:49:49 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1464011389469-7617789.post@n2.nabble.com> I'd go with Windows 10 but load the freeware classicshell.net Windows 7 option. No silly Tiles, Charms, etc. and you get the traditional W7 interface with the added benefits of W10 (better security, automatic updates, automatic maintenance, etc.) I had 2 older Vista laptops that were converted to W7 ($75 upgrade) and then W10 (free) and they are now great. I also had 2 Win 8 laptops that were converted very easily to W10. Now everything is W10 using the same classicshell interface. 73, Bill W4ZV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/OT-Looking-for-PC-advice-tp7617779p7617789.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From w2kj at bellsouth.net Mon May 23 09:57:30 2016 From: w2kj at bellsouth.net (Joe W2KJ) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 09:57:30 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2 Message-ID: <1CEBAE25-17F0-4437-BA00-BA063C4E674A@bellsouth.net> Howdy Gang: Interested in hearing from those new KX2 users on their experiences with the little rig to date. Especially interested in KX2 owners who also own a KX3 who can provide comments on the similarities/differences in performance between the two rigs. 73, Joe W2KJ I QRP, therefore I am From danny.higgins at keme.co.uk Mon May 23 10:23:31 2016 From: danny.higgins at keme.co.uk (danny.higgins) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 15:23:31 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? In-Reply-To: <005d01d1b4ed$04493350$0cdb99f0$@net> References: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com> <20160522222431.54B27149B437@mailman.qth.net> <20160523025227.13E20149B4AD@mailman.qth.net> <005d01d1b4ed$04493350$0cdb99f0$@net> Message-ID: Yes, I reported that one just after I got S/N 10105. It worked at home using the USB interface, but when I went to IOTA last year it powered up in TX mode when the USB lead was not connected. It took a few phone calls to sort it out, but once we knew what the problem was it was easy to get round. I still have a problem here. If I configure the K3S to operate via the USB lead, then power down, remove the USB lead, power back up then set the config for PTT_KEY to be DTR-OFF, then the K3S immediately goes into TX and stays there until I re-connect the USB lead. It sounds as though there is still something not quite right with the keying logic yet. Danny, G3XVR From: Gene Gabry Sent: 23 May 2016 13:17 To: 'danny.higgins'; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? Same thing happens here with K3S SN 10057. I have no digital SW running or rig control at the time of power down. If I set PTT to DTR and power down for some period of time, PTT defaults back to OFF when power up. Always done that since day one. I thought there was some update done in latest firmware to PTT-KEY line to default those to OFF so when PC was restarted K3S would not go into TX? Gene, N9TF -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of danny.higgins Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 1:34 AM To: Don Wilhelm; Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? WSJT not running ? K3S not connected to PC. I still need to reset PTT-KEY after a power cycle ? it always goes back to OFF-OFF. The same thing happens in USB or DATA modes. Danny, G3XVR From: Don Wilhelm Sent: 23 May 2016 06:26 To: danny.higgins; Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? Danny, Do a test without WSJT running. Set PTT key config to DTR - OFF, then cycle power on the K3S. Does that setting survive the power cycle? If so, it is not a K3S problem, look to the WSJT software for the solution. If it does not survive the power cycle, contact K3Support. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/23/2016 1:08 AM, danny.higgins wrote: > I have this on my K3S with the latest firmware. I use WSJT to key the K3S via the USB port and I operate in USB mode, not Data. Every time I power the K3S OFF I need to reset the PTT Key config to DTR ? OFF. > > Danny, G3XVR > > > From: Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO > Sent: 23 May 2016 04:29 > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? > > Which radio is it? I've never seen this on my K3. > If you are running some kind of rig control software, try it with the > software not running. > > 73, > Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO > Rehovot, Israel > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > > On 23 May 2016 05:51, Ken Arck wrote: >> Sounds like a call to Elecraft tomorrow because this is repeatable! >> >> >> >> >> At 07:42 PM 5/22/2016, Cady, Fred wrote: >>> That doesn't sound right. I don't think mine has ever changed. >>> Cheers, >>> Fred KE7X >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: Elecraft on behalf of Ken >>> Arck >>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:23 PM >>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? >>> >>> I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be >>> non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts to >>> OFF - OFF. I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't >>> >>> Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and >>> that setting reverts. >>> >>> Ken > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > danny.higgins at keme.co.uk > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > donwilh at embarqmail.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n9tf at comcast.net From bob at g3pjt.com Mon May 23 10:26:08 2016 From: bob at g3pjt.com (Bob G3PJT) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 15:26:08 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Powerpole stuck Message-ID: <57431300.70606@g3pjt.com> Hi Just plugged the power lead powerpole into the back of my K2/100 and now I cant get it out! It feels like a very solid lock in. Any ideas or is this a write off - I could crunch the connectors but that seems like a last but hopefully not the only resort. And more importantly why has this happened? 73 Bob G3PJT From w2blc at nycap.rr.com Mon May 23 10:30:26 2016 From: w2blc at nycap.rr.com (Bill) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 10:30:26 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice. In-Reply-To: <1464011389469-7617789.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1464011389469-7617789.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <20500686-3324-f6ae-bbe6-6626cd6e5617@nycap.rr.com> If you built your own desktop under Win 7, it should migrate right along with the rest of your files. I have had resolution issues with Win 10 and it was a bear to fix. As a result, I run Win 7. The problem was an aberration that came with one of the forced updates. I do all backups by use of clone SSDs and also have updated one of the clones to Win 10. That assures having no licensing problems in the event of a change to Win 10 in the future. Is Win 10 friendly? No, I would say it is not as easy to manipulate as Win 7, but that is my preference. Win 10 will attempt to have you only use MS products in your operation and to that purpose, some updates will change your personal program/app selections from your choosing back to their's. The free version (only version I will use) of HRD performs well on Win 10. I have had issues with drivers on Dell printers, however, have updated to HP and the problem went away. Dell's idea of upgrading drivers is to purchase a new Dell printer. Not acceptable to me. If you do upgrade from Win 7 to Win 10 and don't like it, you can revert back to Win 7. Doing so should protect your licensing rights for a later free upgrade. Eventually, we will all HAVE to upgrade to Win 10. New software will be written to only operate under Win 10 and the same with new hardware. You will become part of the Borge - one way or the other. Bill W2BLC K-Line From danny.higgins at keme.co.uk Mon May 23 10:40:08 2016 From: danny.higgins at keme.co.uk (danny.higgins) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 15:40:08 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? In-Reply-To: <005e01d1b4ee$d47be300$7d73a900$@net> References: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com> <20160522222431.54B27149B437@mailman.qth.net> <20160523025227.13E20149B4AD@mailman.qth.net> <005d01d1b4ed$04493350$0cdb99f0$@net> <005e01d1b4ee$d47be300$7d73a900$@net> Message-ID: Yes, running in UNSAFE mode remembers the PTT-KEY setting. Danny, G3XVR From: Gene Gabry Sent: 23 May 2016 13:30 To: 'danny.higgins'; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? Check the updates to latest firmware version. There is a safe mode and Unsafe mode for the PTT-Key line. In Unsafe mode PTT-Key line should not turn off. * PTT/KEY USE WITH THE USB PORT IMPROVED: PC applications can activate PTT and KEY at the K3S via the USB port's RTS/DTR signals. However, initial setup of the rig's USB port by the PC may cause pulsed or continuous activation of the transmitter. This can happen if the computer is turned on after the K3S, or if the USB cable is not connected. There is now a "Safe" mode (the default) which disables PTT-KEY transmit until the K3S receives a command via USB, such as a read of the rig's VFO frequency. To turn on safe mode on/off, go into CONFIG:PTT-KEY and tap '1' to select "USB SAFE" or "UNSAFE". Exit the menu and turn the K3S off/on. Applications that use PTT-KEY via USB but never send commands may require "UNSAFE" mode. In this case, unwanted transmit can be avoided by turning the PC on before the K3S. Gene, N9TF -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gene Gabry Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 7:17 AM To: 'danny.higgins'; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? Same thing happens here with K3S SN 10057. I have no digital SW running or rig control at the time of power down. If I set PTT to DTR and power down for some period of time, PTT defaults back to OFF when power up. Always done that since day one. I thought there was some update done in latest firmware to PTT-KEY line to default those to OFF so when PC was restarted K3S would not go into TX? Gene, N9TF -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of danny.higgins Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 1:34 AM To: Don Wilhelm; Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? WSJT not running ? K3S not connected to PC. I still need to reset PTT-KEY after a power cycle ? it always goes back to OFF-OFF. The same thing happens in USB or DATA modes. Danny, G3XVR From: Don Wilhelm Sent: 23 May 2016 06:26 To: danny.higgins; Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? Danny, Do a test without WSJT running. Set PTT key config to DTR - OFF, then cycle power on the K3S. Does that setting survive the power cycle? If so, it is not a K3S problem, look to the WSJT software for the solution. If it does not survive the power cycle, contact K3Support. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/23/2016 1:08 AM, danny.higgins wrote: > I have this on my K3S with the latest firmware. I use WSJT to key the K3S via the USB port and I operate in USB mode, not Data. Every time I power the K3S OFF I need to reset the PTT Key config to DTR ? OFF. > > Danny, G3XVR > > > From: Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO > Sent: 23 May 2016 04:29 > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? > > Which radio is it? I've never seen this on my K3. > If you are running some kind of rig control software, try it with the > software not running. > > 73, > Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO > Rehovot, Israel > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > > On 23 May 2016 05:51, Ken Arck wrote: >> Sounds like a call to Elecraft tomorrow because this is repeatable! >> >> >> >> >> At 07:42 PM 5/22/2016, Cady, Fred wrote: >>> That doesn't sound right. I don't think mine has ever changed. >>> Cheers, >>> Fred KE7X >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: Elecraft on behalf of Ken >>> Arck >>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:23 PM >>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? >>> >>> I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be >>> non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts to >>> OFF - OFF. I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't >>> >>> Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and >>> that setting reverts. >>> >>> Ken > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > danny.higgins at keme.co.uk > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > donwilh at embarqmail.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n9tf at comcast.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n9tf at comcast.net From phystad at mac.com Mon May 23 11:06:48 2016 From: phystad at mac.com (Phil Hystad) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 08:06:48 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 at SEAPAC in June ? Message-ID: <087808BF-7A8E-46FD-9CAD-DE0734BD6829@mac.com> Eric or Wayne: I assume that there will be a KX2 or two to see, hold, handle, touch, spindle, and fold at the SEAPAC ham-fest on Saturday, June 4th. PEH From pincon at erols.com Mon May 23 11:07:41 2016 From: pincon at erols.com (Charlie T, K3ICH) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 11:07:41 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 package for sale Message-ID: <00ac01d1b504$ded7b430$9c871c90$@erols.com> While I have enjoyed my KX3, I have sprung for the smaller KX2. I know I'm giving up some features, but for me, the small size is more important. The package includes the KX3 with internal KX3T tuner and a set of "Eneloops" which have been recharged at most 12 times. Also included are the after-market end caps and lexan cover. I'll even through in the bubble printer cartridge shipping padder that I always use when I put it in the suitcase. This radio has spent 99.9% of its life at home and only made only a few trips, securely padded, when we visit our kids and (civilized??) relatives. Never dropped in an alligator pit, fallen overboard, or used to pound in tent stakes, it IS in excellent condition. This set-up would run about $1400 if bought new. I will ship the package in the US for $1150. I'll take some pics of it all so you can see the condx. 73, Charlie k3ICH From donwilh at embarqmail.com Mon May 23 11:14:11 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 11:14:11 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Powerpole stuck In-Reply-To: <57431300.70606@g3pjt.com> References: <57431300.70606@g3pjt.com> Message-ID: <99f89b27-5546-7d86-8a0a-b4d587f80c27@embarqmail.com> Bob, I suspect that one of the APP connectors either was not assembled correctly or the contact blade is bent - I refuse to speculate on how that might have happened without looking at it, but in any case, I suspect the contact blades of the two connectors are interlocked in a manner they were not intended to be. If it works, leave it alone for now unless you have a stock of APP connectors. If you do not have the APP connectors, obtain 2 sets (hopefully you only will need one set, but 'just in case'). Operate 'as-is' until you have those parts in hand. Then having the spare APP connectors, separate the 2 connectors by any means possible - in other words grasp the external one with pliers and pull harder until it comes apart. You do not care if you damage the housings in the process because you have replacements. Once they are apart, check the contact blades in the ones mounted in the KPA100 as well as the ones on the power cable. The contact blades should be locked over the spring fingers in the housing (you should not be able to see the spring fingers). There is a good cutaway diagram of the correct insertion of the contact blades on page 37 of the XV transverter assembly manual and on page 38 are some good photos showing right and wrong insertion of the contact blades. If you have to replace the housings or the contact blades, you have the 'spare' parts to do the job. If you need to replace the fancy contact blades in the KPA100 itself, you may use the #14 AWG wire (or British close equivalent) and mount them like the ones for the XV transverters - or you could order the special contact blades. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/23/2016 10:26 AM, Bob G3PJT wrote: > Hi > Just plugged the power lead powerpole into the back of my K2/100 and > now I cant get it out! > It feels like a very solid lock in. > Any ideas or is this a write off - I could crunch the connectors but > that seems like a last but hopefully not the only resort. > And more importantly why has this happened? > From n6kr at elecraft.com Mon May 23 11:22:38 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 08:22:38 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [ KX2] KXBT2 Charger In-Reply-To: <026d01d1b1e6$c4f24060$4ed6c120$@carolinaheli.com> References: <026d01d1b1e6$c4f24060$4ed6c120$@carolinaheli.com> Message-ID: <27A04186-5F40-48DF-89AC-D388562632CF@elecraft.com> There may be DC chargers that are compatible with the KX2's battery pack. We're looking at a few. Until then I highly recommend using our inexpensive fast charger, which is designed specifically for this application, with all required monitoring and control circuitry to ensure safe operation. It is not possible to charge the KX2's batteries internally. See cautions in the documentation included with the battery and charger. 73, Wayne N6KR On May 19, 2016, at 8:54 AM, "Jerry Moore" wrote: > KXBT2 Charger: Can the charger be connected to a DC power source without an > inverter to charge the KXBT2 Li-Ion battery pack? Considering the intended > POU is pedestrian I can see a great need/use for solar to power the > charger/recharge the battery pack. Depending upon circuit design it should > be doable. > > KXBT2 Charger: Can the charger be used to power the KX2 Radio in the absence > of a battery pack? Might be a good feature to be able to concurrently > recharge the battery while also powering the radio. Remember the advertised > use is pedestrian style. > > > > > > I'm very intrigued by the KX2 and have a specific use in mind..e.g. camping > with no access or availability of power mains. While using an inverter via > solar is an option the losses due to conversion efficiencies become too > great to be worthwhile in my view. > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Jerry Moore, AE4PB > > K3S owner. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From eric at elecraft.com Mon May 23 11:20:40 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 10:20:40 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 at SEAPAC in June ? In-Reply-To: <087808BF-7A8E-46FD-9CAD-DE0734BD6829@mac.com> References: <087808BF-7A8E-46FD-9CAD-DE0734BD6829@mac.com> Message-ID: Absolutely! I'll personally be there too. 73, Eric ( in the air coming back from Dayton) elecraft.com --- Sent from my iPhone 6S > On May 23, 2016, at 10:06 AM, Phil Hystad wrote: > > Eric or Wayne: > > I assume that there will be a KX2 or two to see, hold, handle, touch, spindle, and fold at the SEAPAC ham-fest on Saturday, June 4th. From w9ac at arrl.net Mon May 23 11:34:03 2016 From: w9ac at arrl.net (Paul Christensen) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 11:34:03 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3 Message-ID: <004d01d1b508$89783f60$9c68be20$@arrl.net> I have Fldigi configured with a K3 using a .XTML file. No matter how I try and save the configuration in Fldigi, each PSK session requires re-initializing under Fldigi's CONFIGURATION> RIG CONTROL setting. I've already tried checking/unchecking several menu "ticks" including unchecking "reset configuration at exit." Any idea why the configuration file cannot be saved in Fldigi's CONFIGURATION sub-menu? I simply want to start fldigi without having to "fiddle" with the configuration menu each time a fldigi PSK session is started. Does Flrig get around this limitation? Paul, W9AC From gordon.lapoint at gmail.com Mon May 23 11:39:25 2016 From: gordon.lapoint at gmail.com (Gordon LaPoint) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 11:39:25 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5743242D.1040401@gmail.com> Deni, I use Win 10 and prefer it. Win 10 is more stable and uses less memory then Win 7. You can install the FREE Classic Shell (see: http://www.classicshell.net/ ) to have the same program start menu setup as Win 7 on the Win 10 system. I don't use or like the Metro interface. Gordon - N1MGO On 05/23/2016 03:12 AM, F5vjc wrote: > Hi, I have an Elecraft K line station and up to now have been running all > my software on an aging Win 7 32 bit machine. No real problems but I'm in > the process of building an updated PC and have a dilemma. Do I go with Win > 7 Pro 64 Bit or Win 10 for the OS? > > I know some of you will have taken this path already, so how do you find > WIN 10 with typical Ham radio software? I run Win4K3, N1MM, HRD, Log4OM, > CW Skimmer, NaP3 and numerous other Ham radio stuff. > > I have Win 10 on my laptop (free update from Win 7) but not used for the > Ham shack and find it rather irritating, but this is probably due to > unfamiliarity. > > Do you guys prefer Win 7 or 10 for Ham radio apps. > > > Any advice appreciated, thanks. > > 73, Deni - F5VJC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gordon.lapoint at gmail.com -- Gordon - N1MGO From bob at g3pjt.com Mon May 23 11:42:04 2016 From: bob at g3pjt.com (Bob G3PJT) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 16:42:04 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Powerpole stuck In-Reply-To: <99f89b27-5546-7d86-8a0a-b4d587f80c27@embarqmail.com> References: <57431300.70606@g3pjt.com> <99f89b27-5546-7d86-8a0a-b4d587f80c27@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <574324CC.3090900@g3pjt.com> Yes this was a new lead, just made up. I have now managed to get the black connector out. and the red cable came out with the blade attached so the red housing is stuck. I looked at the pics in the XV manual and I cant see how the two parts could lock. 73 Bob G3PJT On 23/05/2016 16:14, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Bob, > > I suspect that one of the APP connectors either was not assembled > correctly or the contact blade is bent - I refuse to speculate on how > that might have happened without looking at it, but in any case, I > suspect the contact blades of the two connectors are interlocked in a > manner they were not intended to be. > > If it works, leave it alone for now unless you have a stock of APP > connectors. If you do not have the APP connectors, obtain 2 sets > (hopefully you only will need one set, but 'just in case'). Operate > 'as-is' until you have those parts in hand. > > Then having the spare APP connectors, separate the 2 connectors by any > means possible - in other words grasp the external one with pliers and > pull harder until it comes apart. You do not care if you damage the > housings in the process because you have replacements. > > Once they are apart, check the contact blades in the ones mounted in > the KPA100 as well as the ones on the power cable. The contact blades > should be locked over the spring fingers in the housing (you should > not be able to see the spring fingers). There is a good cutaway > diagram of the correct insertion of the contact blades on page 37 of > the XV transverter assembly manual and on page 38 are some good photos > showing right and wrong insertion of the contact blades. > If you have to replace the housings or the contact blades, you have > the 'spare' parts to do the job. > > If you need to replace the fancy contact blades in the KPA100 itself, > you may use the #14 AWG wire (or British close equivalent) and mount > them like the ones for the XV transverters - or you could order the > special contact blades. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 5/23/2016 10:26 AM, Bob G3PJT wrote: >> Hi >> Just plugged the power lead powerpole into the back of my K2/100 and >> now I cant get it out! >> It feels like a very solid lock in. >> Any ideas or is this a write off - I could crunch the connectors but >> that seems like a last but hopefully not the only resort. >> And more importantly why has this happened? >> > > From kengkopp at gmail.com Mon May 23 11:48:11 2016 From: kengkopp at gmail.com (Ken G Kopp) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 09:48:11 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Windows 10, HRD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Works fine here. Now, if HRD had the ability to track US Counties .... (:-( 73 K0PP From nf4l at comcast.net Mon May 23 11:55:59 2016 From: nf4l at comcast.net (Mike Reublin NF4L) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 11:55:59 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne In-Reply-To: <201605231335.u4NDZI1i002730@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201605231335.u4NDZI1i002730@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <1D45ABB2-4B37-40D6-960D-D393BFA72877@comcast.net> How accurate do you believe the Bird to be? 73, Mike NF4L > On May 23, 2016, at 9:35 AM, Edward R Cole wrote: > > I am getting 100w on all HF bands with about 4w drive. Supply voltage is 13.71v in Rx and runs 13.12v with 100w output and 13.07v with 110w output with 5.2w drive (tests on 14-MHz into a Bird Power meter (100H) and Bird Load). > I compared the reading of the 100H element at 50w on 6m with a 50A element with nearly identical reading. > > But on 6m it takes 7.2w drive and I only see 72w output at 13.15v. Advancing drive higher engages the auto-ATT, so it would suggest drive is high enough. > > A little disappointed that 6m did not develop output per spec (80w) though I guess no one would note the difference of 72 vs 80. I am running a 50A Astron PS which indicates 13.71v at the PS terminal I have not measured what that is under load of the KXPA-100 as PS terminals are difficult to reach. Voltage measured with Fluke model 17B+. > > I may try adjusting the Astron to 14.2v to see if that will improve output; assuming similar 0.6v drop under load would result in 13.6v. > > I substituted a No.10 PP power cord for the No.12 cord provided with the amp with no discernable difference. > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > "Kits made by KL7UW" > Dubus Mag business: > dubususa at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nf4l at comcast.net From jermo at carolinaheli.com Mon May 23 12:12:48 2016 From: jermo at carolinaheli.com (Jerry Moore) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 12:12:48 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3 In-Reply-To: <004d01d1b508$89783f60$9c68be20$@arrl.net> References: <004d01d1b508$89783f60$9c68be20$@arrl.net> Message-ID: <01c301d1b50d$f4011910$dc034b30$@carolinaheli.com> I create a macro in FLDigi and just click that to setup the rig/program -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Paul Christensen Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 11:34 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3 I have Fldigi configured with a K3 using a .XTML file. No matter how I try and save the configuration in Fldigi, each PSK session requires re-initializing under Fldigi's CONFIGURATION> RIG CONTROL setting. I've already tried checking/unchecking several menu "ticks" including unchecking "reset configuration at exit." Any idea why the configuration file cannot be saved in Fldigi's CONFIGURATION sub-menu? I simply want to start fldigi without having to "fiddle" with the configuration menu each time a fldigi PSK session is started. Does Flrig get around this limitation? Paul, W9AC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jermo at carolinaheli.com From phystad at mac.com Mon May 23 12:22:49 2016 From: phystad at mac.com (Phil Hystad) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 09:22:49 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 at SEAPAC in June ? In-Reply-To: References: <087808BF-7A8E-46FD-9CAD-DE0734BD6829@mac.com> Message-ID: <8F5BAF63-72D3-4238-9877-960436D7946F@mac.com> Great, Hope to see you there and say ?Hi?. 73, phil, K7PEH > On May 23, 2016, at 8:20 AM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote: > > Absolutely! > > I'll personally be there too. > > 73, > > Eric ( in the air coming back from Dayton) > elecraft.com > --- > Sent from my iPhone 6S > > On May 23, 2016, at 10:06 AM, Phil Hystad > wrote: > >> Eric or Wayne: >> >> I assume that there will be a KX2 or two to see, hold, handle, touch, spindle, and fold at the SEAPAC ham-fest on Saturday, June 4th. From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Mon May 23 12:33:03 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 09:33:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne In-Reply-To: <57430761.5060704@comcast.net> References: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com> <849DEF49-9A26-4C9F-8F82-D1DCD576275D@verizon.net> <57430761.5060704@comcast.net> Message-ID: <574330BF.2040902@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Mon,5/23/2016 6:36 AM, brian wrote: > > 1 dB is generally agreed upon to be the minimum detectible difference > in audio that people can detect. > > Of course, these measurements don't include QRM, QSB or AGC action. Exactly right on both counts. That "generally agreed" is actually the result of research done nearly a century ago. For absolute level (loudness), it takes a change of 6-10 dB to be perceived as "twice as loud" or "half as loud." But when the desired signal is near the level of noise or other signals, a change of only a dB or two can make a BIG difference in whether or not we make the QSO. One of the things I did professionally was mix live sound, both for sound reinforcement and recording/broadcast. When a given instrument or voice needed to be louder to balance well, the needed change was rarely more than a dB or two unless I had the mix very wrong to begin with or a musician changed something a lot (like moving too far from the mic, or playing a different instrument). So -- when conditions are marginal (on the edge of the other guy's noise), every dB matters. That's why the best operators work to optimize their antenna systems and squeezing every last dB of loss out of the coax. 73, Jim K9YC From n6kr at elecraft.com Mon May 23 12:34:19 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 09:34:19 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Regarding field antennas Message-ID: <5FE651F6-5AEB-4956-9E53-0732EB2EA5D6@elecraft.com> Whip antennas like the MFJ1820T are great for quick deployment, and you *can* make QSOs on them, especially when a band is open and on the higher bands. However, you'll find that a long (25'+) wire, supported by a tree or pole, will nearly always work better. In either case you also must have a counterpoise wire, laid on the ground or supported by another tree or pole in roughly the opposite direction. Lacking a counterpoise, your transmit losses will be some 15 to 20 dB higher. 73, Wayne N6KR From n6kr at elecraft.com Mon May 23 12:35:43 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 09:35:43 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] To new KX2 owners In-Reply-To: References: <659B8039-4A05-4844-B70C-35833A16724C@elecraft.com> <140F7295-3746-4EB5-8BB2-8770869DEAA0@Dupuie.com> <22D00880-886B-42FA-9562-07929EFF9C7B@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <72758000-2619-4EBE-99B9-2B75A0521B19@elecraft.com> On May 21, 2016, at 9:51 PM, Charley wrote: > Hi Wayne-- just bought the kx2 from Ron. What is max voltage the kx2 will shut down at ? My kx3 will shut down at 16 volts. Tnx Charly W6CUP Should be approximately the same. 73, Wayne N6KR > > Sent from my iPad It's Me Charly--(life is to short to fly Coach) > > On May 21, 2016, at 19:43, Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com [KX3] wrote: > >> >> >> >> ---- >> http://www.elecraft.com >> >> On May 21, 2016, at 10:28 PM, "Scott Dupuie Yahoo at Dupuie.com [KX3]" wrote: >> >>> >>> W8O/SW-012 - Hamilton County HP >>> >>> >>> Closest by one mile. Next is W8O/CT-001. >>> >>> Do I win a new KX2? >>> >>> Scott >>> AK5SD >> >> No, sorry. I was hoping to sneak out to activate it ;) >> >> Wayne >> >> >>> >>>> On May 21, 2016, at 9:05 PM, Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com [KX3] wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> If you were among those who scooped up (in record time) the KX2s we brought to Dayton: thanks for your enthusiastic response! (Wish we'd brought more :) >>>> >>>> I know many of you have already unboxes the radios and are putting them on the air. If you have early questions or comments, feel free to send them to me directly, and/or post here. There are many knowledgable KX2 field testers lurking on our lists, including some top-flight SOTA operators. >>>> >>>> Trivia question: what's the closest SOTA peak to Hara Arena? >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> Wayne >>>> N6KR >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> http://www.elecraft.com >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> __._,_.___ >> Posted by: Wayne Burdick >> Reply via web post ? Reply to sender ? Reply to group ? Start a New Topic ? Messages in this topic (3) >> >> Upgrade your account with the latest Yahoo Mail app >> Get organized with the fast and easy-to-use Yahoo Mail app. Upgrade today! >> VISIT YOUR GROUP New Members 11 New Photos 1 >> ? Privacy ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use >> . >> >> >> __,_._,___ From joel.b.black at gmail.com Mon May 23 12:36:21 2016 From: joel.b.black at gmail.com (Joel Black) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 11:36:21 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] OT- Buyer Bware Message-ID: <9BA821CC-2CE2-451C-AD20-54A97C2F233E@gmail.com> Folks, A few days ago, I put out a solicitation on this reflector and the QRZ.com ?for sale? forums for a PX3. I have read several stories of odd dealings with *some* sellers on QRZ.com about items not delivered or folks, otherwise, being scammed. I think I was almost a victim. I have been a member of PayPal for a long time. I only ever use the ?Pay for goods and services? method for sending money to people who I do not know. I?m not sure that I?ve *ever* used the friends and family method to send money to anyone. That said, it is my understanding that sending to friend and family offers no protection for either party. Use your instincts and if something feels wrong, it usually is. I received an email from someone offering for sale their PX3. It said the PX3 was in superb condition from a smoke-free home. It was signed, ?73.? That?s it. No callsign and no name except what showed up in the email address. I asked for pictures, if it had been used outside, the callsign, and preferred method of payment. The next email contained a picture and a callsign. I will not share the callsign as I don?t personally think it is from that person and I don?t want to ruin someone?s reputation without irrefutable proof. Still no preferred method of payment. This went on for a couple of emails until it came to him requesting payment via ?friends and family? to an email address not associated with the one he was using. That?s fine, my PayPal email address is not the one I use for other stuff. I sent payment but I used the ?Pay for goods and services.? After about a day, I was told he tried to transfer it around and couldn?t get it so he refunded it. I verified it was back in my account and then I told him I would only pay for it using the method described and told him I didn?t want anything else to do with him. I have not heard back. Not sure there is anything I can do legally (since no crime came to completion). I only post this here to make *sure* that you use the protections PayPal affords its users. I have never had a problem with PayPal although I?m sure there are some here who have. I don?t post this to start a long email chain only to let you know what almost happened to me. We have a saying at work - ?Experience is what you get when you don?t get what you wanted.? No need to reply to the reflector with this. If you have any comments, you can send them directly to me. Oh, yep, I?m still looking for a used PX3 from a smoke-free home in great condition ;) 73, Joel - W4JBB From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Mon May 23 13:16:21 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 10:16:21 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Personally, I'm sticking with Win 7 for as long as I can. I have a few computers: 1) Aged Toshiba laptop with Win XP that has a parallel port for running my N2PK network analyze. No wi-fi in this one anymore. 2) Lenovo T400 upgraded to SSD running Win 7 Home 32 bit that is the shack computer for logging, RTTY, SDR-IQ bandscope, etc. 3) HP Elitebook upgraded to SSD with Win 7 Pro on the workbench/field to run DG8SAQ network analyzer. I tried the "free" Win 10 on this one. It worked okay but issues which follow caused me to roll it back. 4) Dell desktop, also upgraded to SSD, Win 7 Home. Lots of backup storage for photos, banking, doss, etc. 5) Fiance's HP laptop still running Vista. 6) New HP laptop delivered with Win 10 that is supposed to replace #5. All of these (except for #1) are networked via local Wi-Fi. When she fires up with the new Win 10 machine, it totally takes over my network. This thing is so intrusive as to be unbelievable. It's pathetic when you have to install programs to find all of the Windows "phone home" hooks and disable them. I'm sure there are many that are still running. I can only assume that Microsoft has scoured my complete network and saved everything away so NSA can find it all in one place. On 5/23/2016 12:12 AM, F5vjc wrote: > Hi, I have an Elecraft K line station and up to now have been running all > my software on an aging Win 7 32 bit machine. No real problems but I'm in > the process of building an updated PC and have a dilemma. Do I go with Win > 7 Pro 64 Bit or Win 10 for the OS? > > I know some of you will have taken this path already, so how do you find > WIN 10 with typical Ham radio software? I run Win4K3, N1MM, HRD, Log4OM, > CW Skimmer, NaP3 and numerous other Ham radio stuff. > > I have Win 10 on my laptop (free update from Win 7) but not used for the > Ham shack and find it rather irritating, but this is probably due to > unfamiliarity. > > Do you guys prefer Win 7 or 10 for Ham radio apps. > > > Any advice appreciated, thanks. > > 73, Deni - F5VJC > ______________________________________________________________ From edauer at law.du.edu Mon May 23 13:18:03 2016 From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 17:18:03 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Question to the group re Info Sources Message-ID: <7A83C21C-8702-4986-99F8-9FBBC612E786@law.du.edu> Gene's note about the PTT/Key line question, and the current discussion of DC voltage vs amplifier output power, raise a question I have been mulling for a while. An enormous amount of information develops on this reflector over time - some of it due to F/W changes, as the PTT issue has, and some of it just adds to what?s available in the current manuals and texts as odd problems and questions come up and get debated and answered. I personally find searching the reflector archives clunky at best, even using the Google-first method, though that?s better than word-searching the archives themselves. Would there be any value to having an updatable collection of some sort, kind of like the old QST ?Hints & Kinks?, gathering up the info developed here but organized in some topically accessible way? I have been considering this as a post-retirement project, but don?t want to do it if what?s already available works well enough. And while I am not an EE or anything like it, I have had a conversation about partnering with a familiar name who is (but who is still thinking about it and so remains unnamed. Having him in on the project is a sine qua non for me.) If we do it I would want it to be ?crowd sourced? in the sense that suggestions for topics and a way of selecting among replies would come from the users, on some other facility so we don?t tie up the reflector?s bandwidth. No commitment here to do it, yet; and life has a way of interfering with even the best laid plans. But I thought I?d ask if there would be any value in our thinking about it more seriously . . . or would it be superfluous? Ted, KN1CBR > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 07:30:02 -0500 >From: "Gene Gabry" >To: "'danny.higgins'" , > >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? >Message-ID: <005e01d1b4ee$d47be300$7d73a900$@net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > >Check the updates to latest firmware version. There is a safe mode and >Unsafe mode for the PTT-Key line. In Unsafe mode PTT-Key line should not >turn off. > >* PTT/KEY USE WITH THE USB PORT IMPROVED: PC applications can activate >PTT and KEY at the K3S via the USB port's RTS/DTR signals. However, >initial setup of the rig's USB port by the PC may cause pulsed or >continuous activation of the transmitter. This can happen if the computer >is turned on after the K3S, or if the USB cable is not connected. There >is now a "Safe" mode (the default) which disables PTT-KEY transmit until >the K3S receives a command via USB, such as a read of the rig's VFO >frequency. To turn on safe mode on/off, go into CONFIG:PTT-KEY and tap >'1' to select "USB SAFE" or "UNSAFE". Exit the menu and turn the K3S >off/on. Applications that use PTT-KEY via USB but never send commands may >require "UNSAFE" mode. In this case, unwanted transmit can be avoided by >turning the PC on before the K3S. > >Gene, N9TF > From w9ac at arrl.net Mon May 23 13:19:23 2016 From: w9ac at arrl.net (Paul Christensen) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 13:19:23 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3 In-Reply-To: <01c301d1b50d$f4011910$dc034b30$@carolinaheli.com> References: <004d01d1b508$89783f60$9c68be20$@arrl.net> <01c301d1b50d$f4011910$dc034b30$@carolinaheli.com> Message-ID: <007701d1b517$408183c0$c1848b40$@arrl.net> Jerry, Thanks for the tip. I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple solution available. Paul, W9AC -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Moore [mailto:jermo at carolinaheli.com] Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:13 PM To: 'Paul Christensen' ; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3 I create a macro in FLDigi and just click that to setup the rig/program -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Paul Christensen Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 11:34 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3 I have Fldigi configured with a K3 using a .XTML file. No matter how I try and save the configuration in Fldigi, each PSK session requires re-initializing under Fldigi's CONFIGURATION> RIG CONTROL setting. I've already tried checking/unchecking several menu "ticks" including unchecking "reset configuration at exit." Any idea why the configuration file cannot be saved in Fldigi's CONFIGURATION sub-menu? I simply want to start fldigi without having to "fiddle" with the configuration menu each time a fldigi PSK session is started. Does Flrig get around this limitation? Paul, W9AC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jermo at carolinaheli.com From jimfinan at att.net Mon May 23 13:28:43 2016 From: jimfinan at att.net (Jim Finan) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 13:28:43 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] To new KX2 owners In-Reply-To: <72758000-2619-4EBE-99B9-2B75A0521B19@elecraft.com> References: <659B8039-4A05-4844-B70C-35833A16724C@elecraft.com> <140F7295-3746-4EB5-8BB2-8770869DEAA0@Dupuie.com> <22D00880-886B-42FA-9562-07929EFF9C7B@elecraft.com> <72758000-2619-4EBE-99B9-2B75A0521B19@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <20160523172843.5853266.98535.39243@att.net> Shiny new KX2 arrived today?!? Ordered from website Thursday, shipped Friday, arrived on Monday. Wasn't expecting it so fast.? Options ordered separately came installed. Now the fun begins... 73, Jim AB4AC? Jim?Finan ? Sent?from?my?BlackBerry?10?smartphone. ? Original Message ? From: Wayne Burdick Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:37 PM To: Charley Cc: Elecraft Mailer; KX3 at yahoogroups.com; yahoo at dupuie.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] To new KX2 owners On May 21, 2016, at 9:51 PM, Charley wrote: > Hi Wayne-- just bought the kx2 from Ron. What is max voltage the kx2 will shut down at ? My kx3 will shut down at 16 volts. Tnx Charly W6CUP Should be approximately the same. 73, Wayne N6KR > > Sent from my iPad It's Me Charly--(life is to short to fly Coach) > > On May 21, 2016, at 19:43, Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com [KX3] wrote: > >> >> >> >> ---- >> http://www.elecraft.com >> >> On May 21, 2016, at 10:28 PM, "Scott Dupuie Yahoo at Dupuie.com [KX3]" wrote: >> >>> >>> W8O/SW-012 - Hamilton County HP >>> >>> >>> Closest by one mile. Next is W8O/CT-001. >>> >>> Do I win a new KX2? >>> >>> Scott >>> AK5SD >> >> No, sorry. I was hoping to sneak out to activate it ;) >> >> Wayne >> >> >>> >>>> On May 21, 2016, at 9:05 PM, Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com [KX3] wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> If you were among those who scooped up (in record time) the KX2s we brought to Dayton: thanks for your enthusiastic response! (Wish we'd brought more :) >>>> >>>> I know many of you have already unboxes the radios and are putting them on the air. If you have early questions or comments, feel free to send them to me directly, and/or post here. There are many knowledgable KX2 field testers lurking on our lists, including some top-flight SOTA operators. >>>> >>>> Trivia question: what's the closest SOTA peak to Hara Arena? >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> Wayne >>>> N6KR >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> http://www.elecraft.com >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> __._,_.___ >> Posted by: Wayne Burdick >> Reply via web post ? Reply to sender ? Reply to group ? Start a New Topic ? Messages in this topic (3) >> >> Upgrade your account with the latest Yahoo Mail app >> Get organized with the fast and easy-to-use Yahoo Mail app. Upgrade today! >> VISIT YOUR GROUP New Members 11 New Photos 1 >> ? Privacy ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use >> . >> >> >> __,_._,___ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jimfinan at att.net From nr4c at widomaker.com Mon May 23 13:58:23 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 13:58:23 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? In-Reply-To: References: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com> <20160522222431.54B27149B437@mailman.qth.net> <20160523025227.13E20149B4AD@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: <8AF308F5-B2A1-437B-BC74-911CDFA2BA51@widomaker.com> Are you using the Power switch on the radio or by chance turning OFF the power-supply? Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 23, 2016, at 2:33 AM, danny.higgins wrote: > > WSJT not running ? K3S not connected to PC. I still need to reset PTT-KEY after a power cycle ? it always goes back to OFF-OFF. The same thing happens in USB or DATA modes. > > Danny, G3XVR > > From: Don Wilhelm > Sent: 23 May 2016 06:26 > To: danny.higgins; Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO; elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? > > Danny, > > Do a test without WSJT running. Set PTT key config to DTR - OFF, then > cycle power on the K3S. Does that setting survive the power cycle? If > so, it is not a K3S problem, look to the WSJT software for the solution. > If it does not survive the power cycle, contact K3Support. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 5/23/2016 1:08 AM, danny.higgins wrote: >> I have this on my K3S with the latest firmware. I use WSJT to key the K3S via the USB port and I operate in USB mode, not Data. Every time I power the K3S OFF I need to reset the PTT Key config to DTR ? OFF. >> >> Danny, G3XVR >> >> >> From: Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO >> Sent: 23 May 2016 04:29 >> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? >> >> Which radio is it? I've never seen this on my K3. >> If you are running some kind of rig control software, try it with the >> software not running. >> >> 73, >> Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO >> Rehovot, Israel >> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ >> >>> On 23 May 2016 05:51, Ken Arck wrote: >>> Sounds like a call to Elecraft tomorrow because this is repeatable! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> At 07:42 PM 5/22/2016, Cady, Fred wrote: >>>> That doesn't sound right. I don't think mine has ever changed. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Fred KE7X >>>> >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: Elecraft on behalf of Ken >>>> Arck >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:23 PM >>>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? >>>> >>>> I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be >>>> non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts to >>>> OFF - OFF. I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't >>>> >>>> Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and >>>> that setting reverts. >>>> >>>> Ken >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to danny.higgins at keme.co.uk >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Mon May 23 14:19:10 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 10:19:10 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne Message-ID: <201605231819.u4NIJBiI016037@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> Mike, Within 2-3w based on RF ammeter reading of 1.40 amps that match I^2*R=100w. 50-MHz 50w and HF-100w Bird elements were within 1w agreement at 50w output on 6m. And long use of the meter on many bands with multiple rigs. Of course Bird rates +/- 5% of full reading which would be +/- 5w but then if 72w reading were actually 77w then the amp is outputting 117w on 20m. Also Bird appears to be good agreement with the KVPA-100 Bar meter which reads 70 on 6m, and the power meter on my Drake MN2000 antenna tuner shows same output as the Bird. Input SWR of the amp is 1.4 on 6m vs 1.0 on HF which may suggest something. I am going to swap out coax lines everywhere and re-measure. But I had also assumed the Astron was running 14.2v from measurement years ago when installed, so may have shifted down with aging. 72w vs 80w is nitpicking but I had hoped it would show specs on all bands considering its cost. Interesting that 6m takes nearly twice the drive power that is needed on HF. Perhaps the limiting factor is the matching transformers. If so that is a disappointment. 6m band is most demanding with often weak-signal conditions so every watt is important. I traded my 150w Mirage 6m amp to buy the KXPA-100 realizing that it was rated at nearly half the output on 6m. I plan some improvements to my 6m station this year which will compensate: 1) adding a second 6-element yagi, 2) finishing a 1100w 6m amplifier which can be run at 800w on SSB with 8w drive from my KX3. But the KXPA-100 will likely be used for normal daily use and QRO reserved for extreme DX operating (including eme and ms). If I find the issue was with coax cables I will report that after testing. Also will provide measurements after raising Astron 50A to 14.2v. 73, Ed - KL7UW >How accurate do you believe the Bird to be? > >73, Mike NF4L 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From Gary at ka1j.com Mon May 23 14:57:55 2016 From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 14:57:55 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? In-Reply-To: References: <005d01d1b4ed$04493350$0cdb99f0$@net>, Message-ID: <574352B3.29051.8E539E8@Gary.ka1j.com> I just checked on my K3s and after the multiple off/on cycles, the PTT-KEY was and still remains set to RTS-DTR and I'm using the latest firmware. Gary KA1J > It may be something unique to the K3S. My older K3 didn't do it, but > the new K3S (#10641) always reverts to PTT KEY OFF-OFF on a power cycle. > must be a glitch in the FW. It IS completely repeatable as the OP > stated. Definitely call Elecraft Support on it. > > Jim - W0EB > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Gene Gabry" > To: "'danny.higgins'" ; > elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Sent: 5/23/2016 7:17:03 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? > > >Same thing happens here with K3S SN 10057. I have no digital SW running > >or rig control at the time of power down. If I set PTT to DTR and power > >down for some period of time, PTT defaults back to OFF when power up. > >Always done that since day one. I thought there was some update done in > >latest firmware to PTT-KEY line to default those to OFF so when PC was > >restarted K3S would not go into TX? > > > > > >>> > >>> At 07:42 PM 5/22/2016, Cady, Fred wrote: > >>>> That doesn't sound right. I don't think mine has ever changed. > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> Fred KE7X > >>>> > >>>> ________________________________________ > >>>> From: Elecraft on behalf of Ken > >>>> Arck > >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:23 PM > >>>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >>>> Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? > >>>> > >>>> I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be > >>>> non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts > >>>>to > >>>> OFF - OFF. I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't > >>>> > >>>> Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and > >>>> that setting reverts. > >>>> > >>>> Ken > >> > >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gary at ka1j.com > From dlrwild1 at verizon.net Mon May 23 15:11:29 2016 From: dlrwild1 at verizon.net (dlrwild1 at verizon.net) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 15:11:29 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question Message-ID: <6F69F4FD3E5C4ACDBB62B6BD9B230DD7@hamroomPpc> Does anyone know if the samller N8BX VFO knob ?B? on the K3/K3S will fit the encoder shaft on the new KX-2? Is the VFO knob on the KX-2 weighted like the KX-3 and K3/K3S? Very interested in hearing user reviews on the KX-2 from QST or Sherwood Engineering. Contact Bob, K3SRO at dlrwild1 at verizon.net From n9tf at comcast.net Mon May 23 15:11:07 2016 From: n9tf at comcast.net (n9tf at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 19:11:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? In-Reply-To: <574352B3.29051.8E539E8@Gary.ka1j.com> References: <005d01d1b4ed$04493350$0cdb99f0$@net> <574352B3.29051.8E539E8@Gary.ka1j.com> Message-ID: <1877500028.4360617.1464030667897.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Hi Gary, ? Firmware 5.33 was the improvement for this. See below in my message. (posted earlier this morning). If you have Unsafe mode toggled these settings will not default back to OFF-OFF. ? Even in the Safe mode, I have noticed the rig needs to have been powered down for more than a few seconds/minutes to reset to OFF-OFF. A test I ran this morning was to turn off rig "first" then power supply off?and kept off for 5 minutes each, SAFE MODE and UNSAFE MODE, powered up the supply first then the K3S, and found in SAFE MODE the PTT-KEY had reset to OFF-OFF, but not in UNSAFE MODE. ? ? "* PTT/KEY USE WITH THE USB PORT IMPROVED: PC applications can activate PTT and KEY at the K3S via the USB port's RTS/DTR signals. However, initial setup of the rig's USB port by the PC may cause pulsed or continuous activation of the transmitter. This can happen if the computer is turned on after the K3S, or if the USB cable is not connected. There is now a "Safe" mode (the default) which disables PTT-KEY transmit until the K3S receives a command via USB, such as a read of the rig's VFO frequency. To turn on safe mode on/off, go into CONFIG:PTT-KEY and tap '1' to select "USB SAFE" or "UNSAFE". Exit the menu and turn the K3S off/on. Applications that use PTT-KEY via USB but never send commands may require "UNSAFE" mode. In this case, unwanted transmit can be avoided by turning the PC on before the K3S." ? 73 Gene, N9TF K3S 10057 ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Smith" To: "elecraft" Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 1:57:55 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? I just checked on my K3s and after the multiple off/on cycles, the PTT-KEY was and still remains set to RTS-DTR and I'm using the latest firmware. Gary KA1J > ? It may be something unique to the K3S. ?My older K3 didn't do it, but > the new K3S (#10641) always reverts to PTT KEY OFF-OFF on a power cycle. > ? must be a glitch in the FW. ?It IS completely repeatable as the OP > stated. ?Definitely call Elecraft Support on it. > > Jim - W0EB > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Gene Gabry" > To: "'danny.higgins'" ; > elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Sent: 5/23/2016 7:17:03 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? > > >Same thing happens here with K3S SN 10057. I have no digital SW running > >or rig control at the time of power down. If I set PTT to DTR and power > >down for some period of time, PTT defaults back to OFF when power up. > >Always done that since day one. I thought there was some update done in > >latest firmware to PTT-KEY line to default those to OFF so when PC was > >restarted K3S would not go into TX? > > > > > >>> > >>> ?At 07:42 PM 5/22/2016, Cady, Fred wrote: > >>>> ?That doesn't sound right. ?I don't think mine has ever changed. > >>>> ?Cheers, > >>>> ?Fred KE7X > >>>> > >>>> ?________________________________________ > >>>> ?From: Elecraft on behalf of Ken > >>>> ?Arck > >>>> ?Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:23 PM > >>>> ?To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >>>> ?Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? > >>>> > >>>> ?I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be > >>>> ?non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts > >>>>to > >>>> ?OFF - OFF. ?I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't > >>>> > >>>> ?Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and > >>>> ?that setting reverts. > >>>> > >>>> ?Ken > >> > >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gary at ka1j.com > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n9tf at comcast.net From dave at nk7z.net Mon May 23 15:16:13 2016 From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 12:16:13 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3 In-Reply-To: <007701d1b517$408183c0$c1848b40$@arrl.net> References: <004d01d1b508$89783f60$9c68be20$@arrl.net> <01c301d1b50d$f4011910$dc034b30$@carolinaheli.com> <007701d1b517$408183c0$c1848b40$@arrl.net> Message-ID: <1464030973.3330.12.camel@nk7z.net> On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote: > Jerry, > > Thanks for the tip.??I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple > solution available.?? > > Paul, W9AC Paul, If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig is no longer controlled. ?Is that correct? -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net From ron at cobi.biz Mon May 23 15:31:56 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 12:31:56 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question In-Reply-To: <6F69F4FD3E5C4ACDBB62B6BD9B230DD7@hamroomPpc> References: <6F69F4FD3E5C4ACDBB62B6BD9B230DD7@hamroomPpc> Message-ID: <004401d1b529$c4a6fe20$4df4fa60$@biz> It will fit, although the KX2 knob is a press-on type with a flat on the encoder shaft while the K3 VFO B knob uses two set-screws on a round shaft. Thanks to the flat, the K3 VFO B knob doesn't center perfectly. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of dlrwild1 at verizon.net Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:11 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question Does anyone know if the samller N8BX VFO knob ?B? on the K3/K3S will fit the encoder shaft on the new KX-2? Is the VFO knob on the KX-2 weighted like the KX-3 and K3/K3S? Very interested in hearing user reviews on the KX-2 from QST or Sherwood Engineering. Contact Bob, K3SRO at dlrwild1 at verizon.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From cautery at montac.com Mon May 23 16:13:23 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 15:13:23 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question In-Reply-To: <004401d1b529$c4a6fe20$4df4fa60$@biz> References: <6F69F4FD3E5C4ACDBB62B6BD9B230DD7@hamroomPpc> <004401d1b529$c4a6fe20$4df4fa60$@biz> Message-ID: With a proper lengths set screws (one over, one under) and some patience, the flat should preclude a centered setup... as long as the shaft diameter is the same or pretty close to the VFO B encoder shaft diameter. ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 5/23/2016 2:31 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > It will fit, although the KX2 knob is a press-on type with a flat on the encoder shaft while the K3 VFO B knob uses two set-screws on a round shaft. > > Thanks to the flat, the K3 VFO B knob doesn't center perfectly. > > 73, Ron AC7AC > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of dlrwild1 at verizon.net > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:11 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question > > Does anyone know if the samller N8BX VFO knob ?B? on the K3/K3S will fit the encoder shaft on the new KX-2? > > Is the VFO knob on the KX-2 weighted like the KX-3 and K3/K3S? > > Very interested in hearing user reviews on the KX-2 from QST or Sherwood Engineering. > > Contact Bob, K3SRO at dlrwild1 at verizon.net ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to cautery at montac.com From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Mon May 23 17:02:17 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 14:02:17 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question In-Reply-To: <004401d1b529$c4a6fe20$4df4fa60$@biz> References: <6F69F4FD3E5C4ACDBB62B6BD9B230DD7@hamroomPpc> <004401d1b529$c4a6fe20$4df4fa60$@biz> Message-ID: <2db29ae4-8e8c-b648-0965-8b85bb548d49@triconet.org> Leave one screw loose, drive the other one into the flat. How could it not be centered? On 5/23/2016 12:31 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > It will fit, although the KX2 knob is a press-on type with a flat on the encoder shaft while the K3 VFO B knob uses two set-screws on a round shaft. > > Thanks to the flat, the K3 VFO B knob doesn't center perfectly. > > 73, Ron AC7AC > > > From w9ac at arrl.net Mon May 23 17:13:34 2016 From: w9ac at arrl.net (Paul Christensen) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 17:13:34 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3 In-Reply-To: <01c301d1b50d$f4011910$dc034b30$@carolinaheli.com> References: <004d01d1b508$89783f60$9c68be20$@arrl.net> <01c301d1b50d$f4011910$dc034b30$@carolinaheli.com> Message-ID: <012801d1b537$f7eda370$e7c8ea50$@arrl.net> Dave, Correct. I must always initialize Fldigi with my K3. Once initialized, it's works fine. If I close it and re-open, initializing is needed again. Paul, W9AC On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote: > Jerry, > > Thanks for the tip. I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple > solution available. > > Paul, W9AC Paul, If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig is no longer controlled. Is that correct? -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net From rdarlington at gmail.com Mon May 23 17:17:53 2016 From: rdarlington at gmail.com (Bob Darlington) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 15:17:53 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3 In-Reply-To: <012801d1b537$f7eda370$e7c8ea50$@arrl.net> References: <004d01d1b508$89783f60$9c68be20$@arrl.net> <01c301d1b50d$f4011910$dc034b30$@carolinaheli.com> <012801d1b537$f7eda370$e7c8ea50$@arrl.net> Message-ID: Are you using virtual com port software that's not up and running before you start fldigi? Are you saying "yes" to the save settings popup when closing after you fix the problem? -Bob On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Paul Christensen wrote: > Dave, > > Correct. I must always initialize Fldigi with my K3. Once initialized, > it's works fine. If I close it and re-open, initializing is needed again. > > Paul, W9AC > > On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote: > > Jerry, > > > > Thanks for the tip. I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple > > solution available. > > > > Paul, W9AC > > Paul, > > If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them > working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig is > no longer controlled. Is that correct? > > > > -- > 73's, and thanks, > Dave (NK7Z) > For software/hardware reviews see: > http://www.nk7z.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rdarlington at gmail.com > From ha4zd at t-online.hu Mon May 23 17:22:44 2016 From: ha4zd at t-online.hu (=?UTF-8?B?U3phYsOzIElzdHbDoW4=?=) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 23:22:44 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 encoder Message-ID: <3a901f39-006e-2f8c-8a8a-541f306cc405@t-online.hu> Could someone help me who is the manufacturer of the encoder? Elecraft shipping cost is extremely high, same value and size shipping cost is about 20 USD from CA, Elecraft ships it for about 60 USD. Really strange. 73, Istv?n ha4zd From w9ac at arrl.net Mon May 23 17:25:22 2016 From: w9ac at arrl.net (Paul Christensen) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 17:25:22 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3 In-Reply-To: References: <004d01d1b508$89783f60$9c68be20$@arrl.net> <01c301d1b50d$f4011910$dc034b30$@carolinaheli.com> <012801d1b537$f7eda370$e7c8ea50$@arrl.net> Message-ID: <013a01d1b539$9df186f0$d9d494d0$@arrl.net> >?Are you using virtual com port software that's not up and running before you start fldigi? Are you saying "yes" to the save settings popup when closing after you fix the problem? -Bob? Physical COM port connected to the K3. It?s an FTDI USB-toRS232 media converter that works fine with anything else connected to the K3. Yes, have attempted to save the Fldigi configuration in the pop-up a countless number of times. Paul, W9AC On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Paul Christensen > wrote: Dave, Correct. I must always initialize Fldigi with my K3. Once initialized, it's works fine. If I close it and re-open, initializing is needed again. Paul, W9AC On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote: > Jerry, > > Thanks for the tip. I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple > solution available. > > Paul, W9AC Paul, If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig is no longer controlled. Is that correct? -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rdarlington at gmail.com From john.turgoose at gmail.com Mon May 23 17:26:10 2016 From: john.turgoose at gmail.com (VE3NFK) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 14:26:10 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1464038770629-7617826.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi Deni Comme les autres Win 10 c'est bonne avec Classic Shell; tous mes programmes 'ham' marche bien. Mon favori TRX-Manager F6DEX c'est tout capable avec Win 10 73 John VE3NFK -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/OT-Looking-for-PC-advice-tp7617779p7617826.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Mon May 23 17:27:47 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 14:27:47 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2b7b3aa6-7bc9-3161-5511-da168d48503f@triconet.org> I can tell you from first hand testing of both a K3 and a K3S, in addition to supply voltage, frequency, drive level, load Z and the phase of the moon all effect TX IMD. DO NOT assume that just because you have the supply voltage at the high end you are done. DO NOT assume that good IMD on 80-meters means good IMD on 10-meters. ARRL should learn this. For those with the equipment and inclination, some measurements might be illuminating. The K3(S) makes it fairly easy since a two-tone generator is built in. All that is needed is a spectrum analyzer to look at the output. I happened to use an SDR-IQ and SpectraVue software, but even a second, carefully calibrated and operated receiver will suffice. It will be laborious but informative. (BTW, my measured data correlated within 1 dB, or less, to that measured by Elecraft. You just have to know what you're doing.) Wes N7WS On 5/23/2016 12:42 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: > An addition to Jim's comments below. > > All 100W rigs, regardless of manufacturer, whether the amp is part of the > radio or a separate unit, develop significant distortion as the voltage drops. > We noticed the effect at CQP last year. We were operating on batteries as our > hosts have a no generator rule. As our batteries got lower, our 3 stations -- > 2 K3s and a KX3 with KXPA100 -- started interfering with each other. The > problem went away when we replaced the batteries with fresh ones. > > This distortion will also affect your signal as received by distant stations, > so it is undesirable in a rig unless you want a reputation for a bad signal. > > One way to be able to get maximum runtime from your batteries is to use a > voltage booster regulator. I use a N8XJK Boost Regulator from TGE. This device > boosts the battery voltage to the radio. Mine shows 13.9 volts, receive and > 13.4 volts key down at 100W on 160M, even with relatively low batteries. (It > does have a low voltage cut off to protect the batteries.) > > The N8XJK Boost Regulator does generate some minor birdies on receive, so I > have it set up to only boost voltage when it senses RF output from the > transmitter. > > 73 Bill AE6JV From danny.higgins at keme.co.uk Mon May 23 17:32:33 2016 From: danny.higgins at keme.co.uk (danny.higgins) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 22:32:33 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? In-Reply-To: <8AF308F5-B2A1-437B-BC74-911CDFA2BA51@widomaker.com> References: <5741FE75.9040801@gmail.com> <57422898.9050902@audiosystemsgroup.com> <20160522222431.54B27149B437@mailman.qth.net> <20160523025227.13E20149B4AD@mailman.qth.net> <8AF308F5-B2A1-437B-BC74-911CDFA2BA51@widomaker.com> Message-ID: No, I always power OFF using the K3S Power Switch. Regards, Danny Higgins From: Nr4c Sent: 23 May 2016 18:58 To: danny.higgins Cc: Don Wilhelm; Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? Are you using the Power switch on the radio or by chance turning OFF the power-supply? Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 23, 2016, at 2:33 AM, danny.higgins wrote: > > WSJT not running ? K3S not connected to PC. I still need to reset PTT-KEY after a power cycle ? it always goes back to OFF-OFF. The same thing happens in USB or DATA modes. > > Danny, G3XVR > > From: Don Wilhelm > Sent: 23 May 2016 06:26 > To: danny.higgins; Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO; elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? > > Danny, > > Do a test without WSJT running. Set PTT key config to DTR - OFF, then > cycle power on the K3S. Does that setting survive the power cycle? If > so, it is not a K3S problem, look to the WSJT software for the solution. > If it does not survive the power cycle, contact K3Support. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 5/23/2016 1:08 AM, danny.higgins wrote: >> I have this on my K3S with the latest firmware. I use WSJT to key the K3S via the USB port and I operate in USB mode, not Data. Every time I power the K3S OFF I need to reset the PTT Key config to DTR ? OFF. >> >> Danny, G3XVR >> >> >> From: Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO >> Sent: 23 May 2016 04:29 >> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? >> >> Which radio is it? I've never seen this on my K3. >> If you are running some kind of rig control software, try it with the >> software not running. >> >> 73, >> Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO >> Rehovot, Israel >> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ >> >>> On 23 May 2016 05:51, Ken Arck wrote: >>> Sounds like a call to Elecraft tomorrow because this is repeatable! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> At 07:42 PM 5/22/2016, Cady, Fred wrote: >>>> That doesn't sound right. I don't think mine has ever changed. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Fred KE7X >>>> >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: Elecraft on behalf of Ken >>>> Arck >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:23 PM >>>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> Subject: [Elecraft] PTT KEY CONFIG setting volatile? >>>> >>>> I notice the PTT KEY selection under CONFIG doesn't appear to be >>>> non-volatile as when the radio is power cycled, it always reverts to >>>> OFF - OFF. I'd like it to stay set to DTR -- RTS but it doesn't >>>> >>>> Even if I leave 13.8 to the radio, turning it OFF and back ON and >>>> that setting reverts. >>>> >>>> Ken >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to danny.higgins at keme.co.uk >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From esteptony at gmail.com Mon May 23 17:38:05 2016 From: esteptony at gmail.com (Tony Estep) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 16:38:05 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice. In-Reply-To: <1464038770629-7617826.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1464038770629-7617826.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 4:26 PM, VE3NFK wrote: > Hi Deni > > ...Win 10 c'est bonne avec Classic Shell... ========== et aussi avec Stardock 10, qui donne les fonctions d'ancien desktop familier, juste comme Classic Shell Tony KT0NY From jermo at carolinaheli.com Mon May 23 17:45:59 2016 From: jermo at carolinaheli.com (Jerry Moore) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 17:45:59 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3 In-Reply-To: References: <004d01d1b508$89783f60$9c68be20$@arrl.net> <01c301d1b50d$f4011910$dc034b30$@carolinaheli.com> <012801d1b537$f7eda370$e7c8ea50$@arrl.net> Message-ID: <6D932EE4-CA22-4EE7-A669-3A341B4C76C4@carolinaheli.com> I run on a raspberry pi under linux. Hardware Comm On May 23, 2016 5:17:53 PM EDT, Bob Darlington wrote: >Are you using virtual com port software that's not up and running >before >you start fldigi? Are you saying "yes" to the save settings popup when >closing after you fix the problem? > >-Bob > >On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Paul Christensen >wrote: > >> Dave, >> >> Correct. I must always initialize Fldigi with my K3. Once >initialized, >> it's works fine. If I close it and re-open, initializing is needed >again. >> >> Paul, W9AC >> >> On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote: >> > Jerry, >> > >> > Thanks for the tip. I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no >simple >> > solution available. >> > >> > Paul, W9AC >> >> Paul, >> >> If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them >> working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig >is >> no longer controlled. Is that correct? >> >> >> >> -- >> 73's, and thanks, >> Dave (NK7Z) >> For software/hardware reviews see: >> http://www.nk7z.net >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to rdarlington at gmail.com >> -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From w7ox at socal.rr.com Mon May 23 17:46:04 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 14:46:04 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD2 vs. KXPD3 Message-ID: <0d7395df-faab-335c-4a8f-05c5f7f27f32@socal.rr.com> Likely a bit early, but can anyone compare these two? I want to order one for my KX2 but, aside from size, I don't know the difference. I use a Begali Adventure on my KX3 but will likely just leave it there so want a dedicated KX2 paddle. 73, Phil W7OX From rdarlington at gmail.com Mon May 23 18:02:52 2016 From: rdarlington at gmail.com (Bob Darlington) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 16:02:52 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3 In-Reply-To: <6D932EE4-CA22-4EE7-A669-3A341B4C76C4@carolinaheli.com> References: <004d01d1b508$89783f60$9c68be20$@arrl.net> <01c301d1b50d$f4011910$dc034b30$@carolinaheli.com> <012801d1b537$f7eda370$e7c8ea50$@arrl.net> <6D932EE4-CA22-4EE7-A669-3A341B4C76C4@carolinaheli.com> Message-ID: Hey, a little OT, but I discovered today that my raspberry pi took my noise floor from S9 constant (with some peaks higher) down to an S4 with peaks around S5 once I unplugged it. These things are BAD. I can't vouch for the r-pi 2 or 3 but I can say that my APRS digipeater is now off the air because of it till I get everything into a shielded metal enclosure. -Bob On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Jerry Moore wrote: > I run on a raspberry pi under linux. Hardware Comm > > > > On May 23, 2016 5:17:53 PM EDT, Bob Darlington > wrote: >> >> Are you using virtual com port software that's not up and running before >> you start fldigi? Are you saying "yes" to the save settings popup when >> closing after you fix the problem? >> >> -Bob >> >> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Paul Christensen wrote: >> >>> Dave, >>> >>> Correct. I must always initialize Fldigi with my K3. Once initialized, >>> it's works fine. If I close it and re-open, initializing is needed >>> again. >>> >>> Paul, W9AC >>> >>> On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote: >>> > Jerry, >>> > >>> > Thanks for the tip. I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple >>> > solution available. >>> > >>> > Paul, W9AC >>> >>> Paul, >>> >>> If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them >>> working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig is >>> no longer controlled. Is that correct? >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> 73's, and thanks, >>> Dave (NK7Z) >>> For software/hardware reviews see: >>> http://www.nk7z.net >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to rdarlington at gmail.com >>> >> >> > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > From k2asp at kanafi.org Mon May 23 18:06:29 2016 From: k2asp at kanafi.org (Phil Kane) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 15:06:29 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT ?] Re: SEAPAC in June In-Reply-To: <1e033814-c3e7-ac43-fc8d-5e2240df6b78@kanafi.org> References: <087808BF-7A8E-46FD-9CAD-DE0734BD6829@mac.com> <1e033814-c3e7-ac43-fc8d-5e2240df6b78@kanafi.org> Message-ID: When you are at SeaPac and have nothing else to do on Saturday at 4pm - catch my presentation on "FCC Rules and Legal Issues" in the Seaside A room. I do that one every year - and run it as an interactive session. 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 >From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon From k2asp at kanafi.org Mon May 23 18:25:50 2016 From: k2asp at kanafi.org (Phil Kane) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 15:25:50 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1dd3dad4-875b-fb63-f6c5-d05a8e41ef04@kanafi.org> On 5/23/2016 12:12 AM, F5vjc wrote: > Do you guys prefer Win 7 or 10 for Ham radio apps. I have a 6-year old Dell tower for my business and personal use and a 3-year old Dell laptop for my ham radio use. Both of them run Win 7 Pro 64 bit. I tried "upgrading" the laptop to Win 10. Too much effort on defusing all of the nasty Microsoft "call home" stuff and auto-updating (I prefer to see and review each and every "patch" before letting it run). Even with ClassicShell (which I use on all of my computers) I could not get Win 10 to look and behave the way I wanted. I had to re-install Win 7 on the laptop because it was beyond the 30-day "easy rollback" period and fortunately I had the "reinstall media" from Dell. Bottom line - I am sticking to Win 7 as long as I have those computers and when either needs replacing I will order new ones with Win 7 installed (not-so-secret that one can still do it if one is a good customer of the supplier). 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 >From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon From nr4c at widomaker.com Mon May 23 18:44:03 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 18:44:03 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3 In-Reply-To: <012801d1b537$f7eda370$e7c8ea50$@arrl.net> References: <004d01d1b508$89783f60$9c68be20$@arrl.net> <01c301d1b50d$f4011910$dc034b30$@carolinaheli.com> <012801d1b537$f7eda370$e7c8ea50$@arrl.net> Message-ID: <7F47F646-AA63-462F-800E-7350E4C115E9@widomaker.com> Where is fldigi software located on your computer? You must have Write privileges to save the CONFIG files. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 23, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Paul Christensen wrote: > > Dave, > > Correct. I must always initialize Fldigi with my K3. Once initialized, > it's works fine. If I close it and re-open, initializing is needed again. > > Paul, W9AC > >> On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote: >> Jerry, >> >> Thanks for the tip. I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple >> solution available. >> >> Paul, W9AC > > Paul, > > If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them > working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig is > no longer controlled. Is that correct? > > > > -- > 73's, and thanks, > Dave (NK7Z) > For software/hardware reviews see: > http://www.nk7z.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From donwilh at embarqmail.com Mon May 23 19:08:27 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 19:08:27 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD2 vs. KXPD3 In-Reply-To: <0d7395df-faab-335c-4a8f-05c5f7f27f32@socal.rr.com> References: <0d7395df-faab-335c-4a8f-05c5f7f27f32@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Phil, I would suggest the KXPD2 over the KXPD3. As Eric pointed out in his talk at FDIM, he has trouble with the KXPD3 moving even his KX3 around because the paddles are further away from the enclosure that with the KXPD2 design. Of course, if you have a 'soft touch' on the paddles it may not make much of a difference to you. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/23/2016 5:46 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > Likely a bit early, but can anyone compare these two? I want to order > one for my KX2 but, aside from size, I don't know the difference. > > I use a Begali Adventure on my KX3 but will likely just leave it there > so want a dedicated KX2 paddle. > From matt.vk2rq at gmail.com Mon May 23 19:52:09 2016 From: matt.vk2rq at gmail.com (Matt Maguire) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 23:52:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question In-Reply-To: <2db29ae4-8e8c-b648-0965-8b85bb548d49@triconet.org> References: <6F69F4FD3E5C4ACDBB62B6BD9B230DD7@hamroomPpc> <004401d1b529$c4a6fe20$4df4fa60$@biz> <2db29ae4-8e8c-b648-0965-8b85bb548d49@triconet.org> Message-ID: Draw a circle on a piece of paper radius R, and mark it's centre. now draw a smaller circle inside radius r, which touches the bigger circle at one point, and mark it's centre. You'll see the distance between the centre points is (R - r). imagine the big circle is the hole in the VFO knob, and the little circle is the VFO shaft. The flat part of the VFO shaft is irrelevant, as the screw is adjusted to meet it wherever it sits. I hope this help explain how the knob will not be centred. 73, Matt VK2RQ Get Outlook for iOS On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 2:03 PM -0700, "Wes" wrote: Leave one screw loose, drive the other one into the flat. How could it not be centered? On 5/23/2016 12:31 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > It will fit, although the KX2 knob is a press-on type with a flat on the encoder shaft while the K3 VFO B knob uses two set-screws on a round shaft. > > Thanks to the flat, the K3 VFO B knob doesn't center perfectly. > > 73, Ron AC7AC > > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to matt.vk2rq at gmail.com From w7ox at socal.rr.com Mon May 23 19:55:01 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 16:55:01 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD2 vs. KXPD3 In-Reply-To: References: <0d7395df-faab-335c-4a8f-05c5f7f27f32@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <31f4fe4f-db96-d837-34b0-2b94e2b0ada9@socal.rr.com> Thanks, Don. Well, I wish I had a 'soft touch', but I'm more of a banger. May have to put add weight to the KX2 (or figure out a weighted base for it) when using it with a paddle mounted to it. I'll order the KX2, as much for its smaller size than anything: Seems more consistent with the philosophy and size of the KX2. 73, Phil W7OX On 5/23/16 4:08 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Phil, > > I would suggest the KXPD2 over the KXPD3. As > Eric pointed out in his talk at FDIM, he has > trouble with the KXPD3 moving even his KX3 > around because the paddles are further away from > the enclosure that with the KXPD2 design. > > Of course, if you have a 'soft touch' on the > paddles it may not make much of a difference to > you. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 5/23/2016 5:46 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: >> Likely a bit early, but can anyone compare >> these two? I want to order one for my KX2 but, >> aside from size, I don't know the difference. >> >> I use a Begali Adventure on my KX3 but will >> likely just leave it there so want a dedicated >> KX2 paddle. >> > > From w7ox at socal.rr.com Mon May 23 20:01:32 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 17:01:32 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD2 vs. KXPD3 In-Reply-To: <31f4fe4f-db96-d837-34b0-2b94e2b0ada9@socal.rr.com> References: <0d7395df-faab-335c-4a8f-05c5f7f27f32@socal.rr.com> <31f4fe4f-db96-d837-34b0-2b94e2b0ada9@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <3446036f-5cdf-5a81-2720-4b40df473f23@socal.rr.com> Oops: I'll order the KXPD2, as much for its smaller size than anything: Seems more consistent with the philosophy and size of the KX2. Too many KX this and that :-) 73, Phil On 5/23/16 4:55 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > Thanks, Don. Well, I wish I had a 'soft touch', > but I'm more of a banger. May have to put add > weight to the KX2 (or figure out a weighted base > for it) when using it with a paddle mounted to it. > > I'll order the KX2, as much for its smaller size > than anything: Seems more consistent with the > philosophy and size of the KX2. > > 73, Phil W7OX > > On 5/23/16 4:08 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >> Phil, >> >> I would suggest the KXPD2 over the KXPD3. As >> Eric pointed out in his talk at FDIM, he has >> trouble with the KXPD3 moving even his KX3 >> around because the paddles are further away >> from the enclosure that with the KXPD2 design. >> >> Of course, if you have a 'soft touch' on the >> paddles it may not make much of a difference to >> you. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >> On 5/23/2016 5:46 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: >>> Likely a bit early, but can anyone compare >>> these two? I want to order one for my KX2 but, >>> aside from size, I don't know the difference. >>> >>> I use a Begali Adventure on my KX3 but will >>> likely just leave it there so want a dedicated >>> KX2 paddle. >>> >> >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > Home: > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w7ox at socal.rr.com > From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Mon May 23 20:04:10 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 19:04:10 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice. In-Reply-To: <1dd3dad4-875b-fb63-f6c5-d05a8e41ef04@kanafi.org> References: <1dd3dad4-875b-fb63-f6c5-d05a8e41ef04@kanafi.org> Message-ID: <9775a0d7-9a4d-34e9-c1c4-bc5a1b9830a3@mediacombb.net> I have a couple of home brew computers. One running Linux has 2-256 Gig SSD's, 32 Gig of Ram and a ridiculously fast video card. It's a host for Oracle Virtualbox Virtual Machines (Guest OS's, 3 versions of windows, a Slackware install and a month ago I installed MSDOS 6.22 for giggles and a little Castle Wolfenstein), and one computer running Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate (same hardware as a above). I have no reason to upgrade so won't. I will ride the Windows 7 horse as long as I can. I absolutely hate forced updates. The first thing I turn off on any Windows install is auto-updates. NO patches will be installed on my machines without my inspection first. IMHO auto-updates are for people who don't care or don't know how to update their machines without MS looking over their shoulder. I have seen what mistimed or disordered MS patches can do to a network (just last week at work, took three days to clean up the mess.) Remember, these are the same people who brought us Windows Me and Vista. Nuff said. On 5/23/2016 5:25 PM, Phil Kane wrote. > I have a 6-year old Dell tower for my business and personal use and a > 3-year old Dell laptop for my ham radio use. Both of them run Win 7 Pro > 64 bit. > > I tried "upgrading" the laptop to Win 10. Too much effort on defusing > all of the nasty Microsoft "call home" stuff and auto-updating (I prefer > to see and review each and every "patch" before letting it run). Even > with ClassicShell (which I use on all of my computers) I could not get > Win 10 to look and behave the way I wanted. I had to re-install Win 7 > on the laptop because it was beyond the 30-day "easy rollback" period > and fortunately I had the "reinstall media" from Dell. > > Bottom line - I am sticking to Win 7 as long as I have those computers > and when either needs replacing I will order new ones with Win 7 > installed (not-so-secret that one can still do it if one is a good > customer of the supplier). > > > 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane > Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 > > >From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest > Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevin.stover at mediacombb.net > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From kb7td at evross.com Mon May 23 20:20:18 2016 From: kb7td at evross.com (Eric Ross) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 17:20:18 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice. In-Reply-To: <1dd3dad4-875b-fb63-f6c5-d05a8e41ef04@kanafi.org> References: <1dd3dad4-875b-fb63-f6c5-d05a8e41ef04@kanafi.org> Message-ID: <1159FEC9-377B-4AB1-B0B4-53729BEC9BDA@evross.com> I work at a large corporation that generally keeps the technology reasonably current and we are still standardized on Win 7 Enterprise. I have not run into any apps that are supported on Win 10 and not supported on Win 7. The drive to upgrade has significantly decreased. That is why the upgrade nags were implemented. People are not seeing the need to upgrade. Eric KB7TD > On May 23, 2016, at 3:25 PM, Phil Kane wrote: > > On 5/23/2016 12:12 AM, F5vjc wrote: > >> Do you guys prefer Win 7 or 10 for Ham radio apps. > > I have a 6-year old Dell tower for my business and personal use and a > 3-year old Dell laptop for my ham radio use. Both of them run Win 7 Pro > 64 bit. > > I tried "upgrading" the laptop to Win 10. Too much effort on defusing > all of the nasty Microsoft "call home" stuff and auto-updating (I prefer > to see and review each and every "patch" before letting it run). Even > with ClassicShell (which I use on all of my computers) I could not get > Win 10 to look and behave the way I wanted. I had to re-install Win 7 > on the laptop because it was beyond the 30-day "easy rollback" period > and fortunately I had the "reinstall media" from Dell. > > Bottom line - I am sticking to Win 7 as long as I have those computers > and when either needs replacing I will order new ones with Win 7 > installed (not-so-secret that one can still do it if one is a good > customer of the supplier). > > > 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane > Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 > > From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest > Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kb7td at evross.com From n6kr at elecraft.com Mon May 23 20:33:11 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 17:33:11 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Different KX2 VFO A knob? In-Reply-To: <6F69F4FD3E5C4ACDBB62B6BD9B230DD7@hamroomPpc> References: <6F69F4FD3E5C4ACDBB62B6BD9B230DD7@hamroomPpc> Message-ID: <1921A3B2-76CC-42A6-813F-8A4760740023@elecraft.com> Bob, I strongly recommended *not* putting any other VFO A knob on the KX2. The current VFO knob was designed specifically for the KX2, matching the exact amount of space available, and keeping it low-profile. If you add a knob that's even slightly larger in diameter, it may hit or overlay the switches or LCD bezel. If you use a weighted knob, you'll risk shortening the lifetime of the VFO A contacting encoder. It's a high-quality encoder with a specified lifetime of over 100,000 revolutions, but a weighted knob could stress the shaft unnecessarily. The KX2 has a couple of useful features to minimize the amount of VFO knob twisting you need to do to move around the band: - If RIT and XIT are OFF and the "OFS" LED is lit, then the OFS/VFO B knob will move the VFO in coarse steps. (The size of coarse steps is defined by MENU:VFO CRS). - There are at least two tuning rates available in each mode (RATE switch). - You can jump to a specific frequency using direct frequency entry (FREQ switch). - Scanning can find signals on the band -- even fairly weak ones -- without any use of the VFO A knob at all. 73, Wayne N6KR On May 23, 2016, at 12:11 PM, dlrwild1 at verizon.net wrote: > Does anyone know if the samller N8BX VFO knob ?B? on the K3/K3S will fit the encoder shaft on the new KX-2? > > Is the VFO knob on the KX-2 weighted like the KX-3 and K3/K3S? > > Very interested in hearing user reviews on the KX-2 from QST or Sherwood Engineering. > > Contact Bob, K3SRO at dlrwild1 at verizon.net > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From n6kr at elecraft.com Mon May 23 20:37:48 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 17:37:48 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 encoder In-Reply-To: <3a901f39-006e-2f8c-8a8a-541f306cc405@t-online.hu> References: <3a901f39-006e-2f8c-8a8a-541f306cc405@t-online.hu> Message-ID: Istv?n, The optical encoder used for VFO A on the KX3 was custom designed for Elecraft, and may not be generally available. Prior to this, there was no optical encoder available from any manufacturer that was this small, while still having excellent mechanical properties and long life. Even if you could find it, you'd be paying single-unit prices, probably higher than what we charge, because we purchase them in large quantities. In addition, there's a small circuit board pre-attached to the circuit board to allow it to be plugged into the control panel board. You may be able to have the encoder shipped from one of our EU dealers. 73, Wayne N6KR On May 23, 2016, at 2:22 PM, Szab? Istv?n wrote: > Could someone help me who is the manufacturer of the encoder? Elecraft shipping cost is extremely high, same value and size shipping cost is about 20 USD from CA, Elecraft ships it for about 60 USD. Really strange. > > 73, Istv?n ha4zd > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From w0mbt at w0mbt.net Mon May 23 20:41:36 2016 From: w0mbt at w0mbt.net (Bruce Nourish) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 00:41:36 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] FDIM presentation Message-ID: Any chance Wayne's FDIM presentation was recorded, and if so, whether it will be posted online at some point? Bruce From w7ox at socal.rr.com Mon May 23 20:46:00 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 17:46:00 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] OT Looking for PC advice. In-Reply-To: <1159FEC9-377B-4AB1-B0B4-53729BEC9BDA@evross.com> References: <1dd3dad4-875b-fb63-f6c5-d05a8e41ef04@kanafi.org> <1159FEC9-377B-4AB1-B0B4-53729BEC9BDA@evross.com> Message-ID: <175bf38c-a2fc-4c5c-fffb-d1bb3a717913@socal.rr.com> Except after some date in the not too distant future, upgrade to Windows 10 will not be free but cost $100 or so. I've updated three PCs and two Macs (via BootCamp) from Win 7 to Win 10 and I'm very pleased with the new OS. No need for the Classic Shell approach I needed on my one Win 8.1 machine. Phil W7OX On 5/23/16 5:20 PM, Eric Ross wrote: > I work at a large corporation that generally keeps the technology reasonably current and we are still standardized on Win 7 Enterprise. I have not run into any apps that are supported on Win 10 and not supported on Win 7. The drive to upgrade has significantly decreased. That is why the upgrade nags were implemented. People are not seeing the need to upgrade. > > Eric > KB7TD > >> On May 23, 2016, at 3:25 PM, Phil Kane wrote: >> >> On 5/23/2016 12:12 AM, F5vjc wrote: >> >>> Do you guys prefer Win 7 or 10 for Ham radio apps. >> I have a 6-year old Dell tower for my business and personal use and a >> 3-year old Dell laptop for my ham radio use. Both of them run Win 7 Pro >> 64 bit. >> >> I tried "upgrading" the laptop to Win 10. Too much effort on defusing >> all of the nasty Microsoft "call home" stuff and auto-updating (I prefer >> to see and review each and every "patch" before letting it run). Even >> with ClassicShell (which I use on all of my computers) I could not get >> Win 10 to look and behave the way I wanted. I had to re-install Win 7 >> on the laptop because it was beyond the 30-day "easy rollback" period >> and fortunately I had the "reinstall media" from Dell. >> >> Bottom line - I am sticking to Win 7 as long as I have those computers >> and when either needs replacing I will order new ones with Win 7 >> installed (not-so-secret that one can still do it if one is a good >> customer of the supplier). >> >> >> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane >> Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From w7ox at socal.rr.com Mon May 23 20:48:11 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 17:48:11 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] FDIM presentation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <632fd59e-d324-ab7e-5dc1-40e41d405cdb@socal.rr.com> Even any charts he used might be interesting :-) 73, Phil W7OX On 5/23/16 5:41 PM, Bruce Nourish wrote: > Any chance Wayne's FDIM presentation was recorded, and if so, whether it > will be posted online at some point? > > Bruce From w9ac at arrl.net Mon May 23 20:55:02 2016 From: w9ac at arrl.net (Paul Christensen) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 20:55:02 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3 In-Reply-To: <7F47F646-AA63-462F-800E-7350E4C115E9@widomaker.com> References: <004d01d1b508$89783f60$9c68be20$@arrl.net> <01c301d1b50d$f4011910$dc034b30$@carolinaheli.com> <012801d1b537$f7eda370$e7c8ea50$@arrl.net> <7F47F646-AA63-462F-800E-7350E4C115E9@widomaker.com> Message-ID: <003901d1b556$e82cf390$b886dab0$@arrl.net> NR4C gets the gold star. Fldigi opens fine and syncs with the K3 when "Run as Administrator." The configuration file was saved as Administrator. But the reason is? Paul, W9AC -----Original Message----- From: Nr4c [mailto:nr4c at widomaker.com] Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 6:44 PM To: Paul Christensen Cc: Jerry Moore ; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3 Where is fldigi software located on your computer? You must have Write privileges to save the CONFIG files. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 23, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Paul Christensen wrote: > > Dave, > > Correct. I must always initialize Fldigi with my K3. Once > initialized, it's works fine. If I close it and re-open, initializing is needed again. > > Paul, W9AC > >> On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote: >> Jerry, >> >> Thanks for the tip. I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple >> solution available. >> >> Paul, W9AC > > Paul, > > If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them > working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig is > no longer controlled. Is that correct? > > > > -- > 73's, and thanks, > Dave (NK7Z) > For software/hardware reviews see: > http://www.nk7z.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > nr4c at widomaker.com From wa6nhc at gmail.com Mon May 23 21:13:05 2016 From: wa6nhc at gmail.com (Rick WA6NHC) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 18:13:05 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3 In-Reply-To: <003901d1b556$e82cf390$b886dab0$@arrl.net> References: <004d01d1b508$89783f60$9c68be20$@arrl.net> <01c301d1b50d$f4011910$dc034b30$@carolinaheli.com> <012801d1b537$f7eda370$e7c8ea50$@arrl.net> <7F47F646-AA63-462F-800E-7350E4C115E9@widomaker.com> <003901d1b556$e82cf390$b886dab0$@arrl.net> Message-ID: <6202d0c3-8240-7434-285a-edd0fd63a0af@gmail.com> I'd bet that the location of the file, while running as admin, is not in the place when the program is run normally. Rick nhc On 5/23/2016 5:55 PM, Paul Christensen wrote: > NR4C gets the gold star. Fldigi opens fine and syncs with the K3 when "Run > as Administrator." The configuration file was saved as Administrator. > > But the reason is? > > Paul, W9AC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nr4c [mailto:nr4c at widomaker.com] > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 6:44 PM > To: Paul Christensen > Cc: Jerry Moore ; elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3 > > Where is fldigi software located on your computer? You must have Write > privileges to save the CONFIG files. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On May 23, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Paul Christensen wrote: >> >> Dave, >> >> Correct. I must always initialize Fldigi with my K3. Once >> initialized, it's works fine. If I close it and re-open, initializing is > needed again. >> Paul, W9AC >> >>> On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote: >>> Jerry, >>> >>> Thanks for the tip. I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple >>> solution available. >>> >>> Paul, W9AC >> Paul, >> >> If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them >> working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig is >> no longer controlled. Is that correct? >> >> >> >> -- >> 73's, and thanks, >> Dave (NK7Z) >> For software/hardware reviews see: >> http://www.nk7z.net >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email >> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >> nr4c at widomaker.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wa6nhc at gmail.com From w5jv at hotmail.com Mon May 23 21:21:07 2016 From: w5jv at hotmail.com (Doug Hensley) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 01:21:07 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Small QRP Xcvr Use Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I do not travel very much anymore so I admit I am behind times on this question but what are you guys with KX1, KX2 or KX3 using for an antenna in the field, at your hotel or while hiking/biking/etc. Putting a KX1 or KX2 in ones pocket is one thing; putting out a readable signal on 80 or 40 meters is something else and continues to challenge even the folks at home with full size rigs. Thanks in advance for your input. 73, Doug W5JV From n0nb at n0nb.us Mon May 23 21:25:48 2016 From: n0nb at n0nb.us (Nate Bargmann) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 20:25:48 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3 In-Reply-To: References: <004d01d1b508$89783f60$9c68be20$@arrl.net> <01c301d1b50d$f4011910$dc034b30$@carolinaheli.com> <012801d1b537$f7eda370$e7c8ea50$@arrl.net> <6D932EE4-CA22-4EE7-A669-3A341B4C76C4@carolinaheli.com> Message-ID: <20160524012548.GW7544@n0nb.us> * On 2016 23 May 17:05 -0500, Bob Darlington wrote: > Hey, a little OT, but I discovered today that my raspberry pi took my noise > floor from S9 constant (with some peaks higher) down to an S4 with peaks > around S5 once I unplugged it. These things are BAD. I can't vouch for > the r-pi 2 or 3 but I can say that my APRS digipeater is now off the air > because of it till I get everything into a shielded metal enclosure. Actually, I found the wall wart one uses makes a lot of difference. I had a couple to choose from and chose the one that was least noisy. 73, Nate, N0NB -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us From rickw8zt at gmail.com Mon May 23 21:46:59 2016 From: rickw8zt at gmail.com (Rick Robinson) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 21:46:59 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Small QRP Xcvr Use Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Par/LNR end fedz are a very popular choice. They work well and are easy to deploy. Several styles to suit your operating preferences. I also like the Par HF Omni angles. These are good for parks and locations where you can use a telescopic mast such as a flagpole. This is what I use . On Monday, May 23, 2016, Doug Hensley wrote: > I do not travel very much anymore so I admit I am behind times on > > this question but what are you guys with KX1, KX2 or KX3 using for > > an antenna in the field, at your hotel or while hiking/biking/etc. > > > Putting a KX1 or KX2 in ones pocket is one thing; putting out a readable > > signal on 80 or 40 meters is something else and continues to challenge > > even the folks at home with full size rigs. > > > Thanks in advance for your input. > > > 73, Doug W5JV > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rickw8zt at gmail.com > -- Rick, W8ZT Sent from Gmail Mobile From donwilh at embarqmail.com Mon May 23 21:48:28 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 21:48:28 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FDIM presentation In-Reply-To: <632fd59e-d324-ab7e-5dc1-40e41d405cdb@socal.rr.com> References: <632fd59e-d324-ab7e-5dc1-40e41d405cdb@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <68b03628-671c-113d-a893-1149ea829aa1@embarqmail.com> But that was Eric's presentation, not Wayne's. Wayne was on an airplane when Eric did the FDIM presentation. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/23/2016 8:48 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > Even any charts he used might be interesting :-) > > 73, Phil W7OX > > On 5/23/16 5:41 PM, Bruce Nourish wrote: >> Any chance Wayne's FDIM presentation was recorded, and if so, whether it >> will be posted online at some point? >> From luichi at gmail.com Mon May 23 22:21:19 2016 From: luichi at gmail.com (Lou Aguilar) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 22:21:19 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FDIM presentation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://ec.libsyn.com/p/f/3/f/f3f8a2dad62ece15/elecraftFDIM.mp3?d13a76d516d9dec20c3d276ce028ed5089ab1ce3dae902ea1d06ce8337d7c855fb37&c_id=11745554 On 5/23/2016 8:41 PM, Bruce Nourish wrote: > Any chance Wayne's FDIM presentation was recorded, and if so, whether it > will be posted online at some point? > > Bruce > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to luichi at gmail.com > From w7aqk at cox.net Mon May 23 22:25:01 2016 From: w7aqk at cox.net (w7aqk) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 19:25:01 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] The KX2 Message-ID: Hi All, The ink is barely dry on the release announcement for the KX2, but it has created quite a stir. A lot of people are very curious about this rig, including me. As a KX3 owner already, I'm not chomping at the bit to get a KX2, but I am trying to discern just what the meaningful differences are. I think it is intriguing that Elecraft chose to make it's new rig a "downsized" version of the KX3. I can certainly see how this has stimulated a lot of interest. What I'm trying to figure out is whether or not it does anything better than the KX3, or is it just a smaller, and less capable, radio. At this point, I'm inclined to think the latter. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but that seems to be a better generalization. Nonetheless, what you give up with a KX2 may not outweigh what you might gain with a KX3--it depends solely on the user. The KX2 is definitely smaller (about half the volume) and lighter, although the footprint is not quite that much different. The price is lighter too! As a true portable radio, I see this as a nice advantage. SOTA ops probably will really appreciate this! You still have a very competent radio with just about all the features a portable op would want or need. The things you give up are not insignificant. There is a slight power differential, which may, or may not, be a concern. Possibly more of a concern might be not having roofing filters. I've become a huge fan of having those. Also, losing access to 160 and 6 meters may be problematic for some. I'm not all that concerned about no AM or FM, but others might be. With the emphasis on being a "hand held" radio, some may lament no VHF/UHF as well. I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU. The one for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to see less capability. Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are great, and I guess I just get nervous about less. The ATU's in the KX1 and K1 were only moderately useful, and it was their reduced size that caused that. Elecraft can obviously put out superb ATU's, but they need some room to do that. I was disappointed to see that the PX3 would not mate with the KX2. In their "FAQ's", Elecraft sort of deflects that by simply suggesting that capability is more appropriate for a larger rig, like the KX3 or K3, but I'm still disappointed. Personally, I think it would have been a big plus if they could have made it work, but again, just not enough room in that smaller package--or I assume that was the problem. Or, maybe it was to just hold the cost down??? I know a lot of K3 owners, who also have KX3's, and have found the KX3 to be a very effective substitute/back-up in their main station. Lately I've been tinkering with that same process, and it works pretty darned well. However, I'm not sure the KX2 is nearly as good a substitute, or back-up. The lesser capabilities described above would explain much of that. I still much prefer the K3, but I don't give up all that much with the KX3. It's a great reason to own both! So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less? Is the KX2 a stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2? In any event, there are sufficient differences to require some analysis if you are trying to pick one over the other. If I didn't already have a KX3 I could probably get a headache trying to make that decision. Either way you go you are probably a "winner!" The "easy" way may be to just conclude you want both, and apparently some have already made that decision! I'm not sure that would be my decision, but hey, I haven't had my hands on a KX2 yet either! Hi. I'll be very interested in seeing some real in-depth reviews of the KX2. 73, Dave W7AQK From eric_csuf at hotmail.com Mon May 23 22:53:38 2016 From: eric_csuf at hotmail.com (EricJ) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 19:53:38 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] The KX2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Is a Miata a stripped down version of an F150 pickup? Is an F150 a Miata with room to carry drywall? It's pretty obvious from the announcement the KX2 serves a different purpose than the KX3. It's not a smaller anything. It's a different rig for a different purpose. Looks to me its lineage is more KX1 and the preceding Trail Friendly Radios than anything else in the Elecraft line. http://www.elecraft.com/KX1/N6KR_KX1_History.html There's an evolution of rigs you should be comparing it to. Eric KE6US On 5/23/2016 7:25 PM, w7aqk wrote: > Hi All, > > The ink is barely dry on the release announcement for the KX2, but it > has created quite a stir. A lot of people are very curious about this > rig, including me. As a KX3 owner already, I'm not chomping at the > bit to get a KX2, but I am trying to discern just what the meaningful > differences are. > > I think it is intriguing that Elecraft chose to make it's new rig a > "downsized" version of the KX3. I can certainly see how this has > stimulated a lot of interest. What I'm trying to figure out is > whether or not it does anything better than the KX3, or is it just a > smaller, and less capable, radio. At this point, I'm inclined to > think the latter. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but that seems > to be a better generalization. Nonetheless, what you give up with a > KX2 may not outweigh what you might gain with a KX3--it depends solely > on the user. > > The KX2 is definitely smaller (about half the volume) and lighter, > although the footprint is not quite that much different. The price is > lighter too! As a true portable radio, I see this as a nice > advantage. SOTA ops probably will really appreciate this! You still > have a very competent radio with just about all the features a > portable op would want or need. > > The things you give up are not insignificant. There is a slight power > differential, which may, or may not, be a concern. Possibly more of a > concern might be not having roofing filters. I've become a huge fan > of having those. Also, losing access to 160 and 6 meters may be > problematic for some. I'm not all that concerned about no AM or FM, > but others might be. With the emphasis on being a "hand held" radio, > some may lament no VHF/UHF as well. > > I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU. The > one for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just > hate to see less capability. Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are > great, and I guess I just get nervous about less. The ATU's in the > KX1 and K1 were only moderately useful, and it was their reduced size > that caused that. Elecraft can obviously put out superb ATU's, but > they need some room to do that. > > I was disappointed to see that the PX3 would not mate with the KX2. > In their "FAQ's", Elecraft sort of deflects that by simply suggesting > that capability is more appropriate for a larger rig, like the KX3 or > K3, but I'm still disappointed. Personally, I think it would have > been a big plus if they could have made it work, but again, just not > enough room in that smaller package--or I assume that was the > problem. Or, maybe it was to just hold the cost down??? > > I know a lot of K3 owners, who also have KX3's, and have found the KX3 > to be a very effective substitute/back-up in their main station. > Lately I've been tinkering with that same process, and it works pretty > darned well. However, I'm not sure the KX2 is nearly as good a > substitute, or back-up. The lesser capabilities described above would > explain much of that. I still much prefer the K3, but I don't give up > all that much with the KX3. It's a great reason to own both! > > So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less? Is the > KX2 a stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2? > In any event, there are sufficient differences to require some > analysis if you are trying to pick one over the other. If I didn't > already have a KX3 I could probably get a headache trying to make that > decision. Either way you go you are probably a "winner!" The "easy" > way may be to just conclude you want both, and apparently some have > already made that decision! I'm not sure that would be my decision, > but hey, I haven't had my hands on a KX2 yet either! Hi. > > I'll be very interested in seeing some real in-depth reviews of the KX2. > > 73, > > Dave W7AQK > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric_csuf at hotmail.com > > From w7ox at socal.rr.com Mon May 23 22:56:03 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 19:56:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] The KX2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7b8bae3c-1cfd-919d-8193-55d263d66c94@socal.rr.com> Some good observations, Dale. A comparison with the KX1 might also be pertinent, since that is the radio in the Elecraft line I see it replacing. One thing: You said "I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU. The one for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to see less capability. Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are great, and I guess I just get nervous about less.". I've seen nothing to suggest less capability in the ATU vs. the KX3's ATU. The KX2 FAQ includes "7L/7C network (KXAT2) - 8L/8C network (KXAT3)", but with fewer bands I suspect the ATUs are equally capable -- and the spec in the FAQ says "matching range typ. 20:1 or higher" which seems good enough. Would I want to lug and power my PX3 with the KX2? Seems that would defeat the purpose of a small, portable battery-operated rig. But for portable ops with an AC supply, I'd take the KX3 so it doesn't matter to me. Clearly the KX2 is not intended to replace the KX3 in the Elecraft product line. As to "So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less? Is the KX2 a stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2?", perhaps a KX1 comparison would be more to the point, Dale :-) 73, Phil W7OX On 5/23/16 7:25 PM, w7aqk wrote: > Hi All, > > The ink is barely dry on the release > announcement for the KX2, but it has created > quite a stir. A lot of people are very curious > about this rig, including me. As a KX3 owner > already, I'm not chomping at the bit to get a > KX2, but I am trying to discern just what the > meaningful differences are. > > I think it is intriguing that Elecraft chose to > make it's new rig a "downsized" version of the > KX3. I can certainly see how this has > stimulated a lot of interest. What I'm trying > to figure out is whether or not it does anything > better than the KX3, or is it just a smaller, > and less capable, radio. At this point, I'm > inclined to think the latter. That's not > necessarily a bad thing, but that seems to be a > better generalization. Nonetheless, what you > give up with a KX2 may not outweigh what you > might gain with a KX3--it depends solely on the > user. > > The KX2 is definitely smaller (about half the > volume) and lighter, although the footprint is > not quite that much different. The price is > lighter too! As a true portable radio, I see > this as a nice advantage. SOTA ops probably > will really appreciate this! You still have a > very competent radio with just about all the > features a portable op would want or need. > > The things you give up are not insignificant. > There is a slight power differential, which may, > or may not, be a concern. Possibly more of a > concern might be not having roofing filters. > I've become a huge fan of having those. Also, > losing access to 160 and 6 meters may be > problematic for some. I'm not all that > concerned about no AM or FM, but others might > be. With the emphasis on being a "hand held" > radio, some may lament no VHF/UHF as well. > > I can only guess at the decreased capability of > the optional ATU. The one for the KX2 may still > be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to > see less capability. Elecraft ATU's in the K3 > and KX3 are great, and I guess I just get > nervous about less. The ATU's in the KX1 and K1 > were only moderately useful, and it was their > reduced size that caused that. Elecraft can > obviously put out superb ATU's, but they need > some room to do that. > > I was disappointed to see that the PX3 would not > mate with the KX2. In their "FAQ's", Elecraft > sort of deflects that by simply suggesting that > capability is more appropriate for a larger rig, > like the KX3 or K3, but I'm still disappointed. > Personally, I think it would have been a big > plus if they could have made it work, but again, > just not enough room in that smaller package--or > I assume that was the problem. Or, maybe it was > to just hold the cost down??? > > I know a lot of K3 owners, who also have KX3's, > and have found the KX3 to be a very effective > substitute/back-up in their main station. > Lately I've been tinkering with that same > process, and it works pretty darned well. > However, I'm not sure the KX2 is nearly as good > a substitute, or back-up. The lesser > capabilities described above would explain much > of that. I still much prefer the K3, but I > don't give up all that much with the KX3. It's > a great reason to own both! > > So, how do you describe the difference in ten > words or less? Is the KX2 a stripped down > version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2? > In any event, there are sufficient differences > to require some analysis if you are trying to > pick one over the other. If I didn't already > have a KX3 I could probably get a headache > trying to make that decision. Either way you go > you are probably a "winner!" The "easy" way may > be to just conclude you want both, and > apparently some have already made that > decision! I'm not sure that would be my > decision, but hey, I haven't had my hands on a > KX2 yet either! Hi. > > I'll be very interested in seeing some real > in-depth reviews of the KX2. > > 73, > > Dave W7AQK From ron at cobi.biz Mon May 23 23:00:40 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 20:00:40 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question In-Reply-To: References: <6F69F4FD3E5C4ACDBB62B6BD9B230DD7@hamroomPpc> <004401d1b529$c4a6fe20$4df4fa60$@biz> <2db29ae4-8e8c-b648-0965-8b85bb548d49@triconet.org> Message-ID: <001d01d1b568$752832d0$5f789870$@biz> Matt: What I was referring to is that with a flat the KX2 shaft is no longer round, so the set screws can pull the knob off center unless they are carefully positioned so they pull the knob against the round segment of the shaft. The shaft of the KX2 encoder is slightly smaller than the KX3 encoder - about 10 mils - so that can contribute a small amount eccentricity as well. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Matt Maguire Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 4:52 PM To: Wes; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question Draw a circle on a piece of paper radius R, and mark it's centre. now draw a smaller circle inside radius r, which touches the bigger circle at one point, and mark it's centre. You'll see the distance between the centre points is (R - r). imagine the big circle is the hole in the VFO knob, and the little circle is the VFO shaft. The flat part of the VFO shaft is irrelevant, as the screw is adjusted to meet it wherever it sits. I hope this help explain how the knob will not be centred. 73, Matt VK2RQ Get Outlook for iOS On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 2:03 PM -0700, "Wes" wrote: Leave one screw loose, drive the other one into the flat. How could it not be centered? On 5/23/2016 12:31 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > It will fit, although the KX2 knob is a press-on type with a flat on the encoder shaft while the K3 VFO B knob uses two set-screws on a round shaft. > > Thanks to the flat, the K3 VFO B knob doesn't center perfectly. > > 73, Ron AC7AC > > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to matt.vk2rq at gmail.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From rdarlington at gmail.com Mon May 23 23:22:47 2016 From: rdarlington at gmail.com (Bob Darlington) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 21:22:47 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3 In-Reply-To: <20160524012548.GW7544@n0nb.us> References: <004d01d1b508$89783f60$9c68be20$@arrl.net> <01c301d1b50d$f4011910$dc034b30$@carolinaheli.com> <012801d1b537$f7eda370$e7c8ea50$@arrl.net> <6D932EE4-CA22-4EE7-A669-3A341B4C76C4@carolinaheli.com> <20160524012548.GW7544@n0nb.us> Message-ID: Yes, that was it. I just tested it and sure enough it's the power supply. I had the idea that it might be the supply only being noisy under load and that was it. Confirmed. The Pi makes the S meter move too, but not anywhere near what this thing is doing. Time to get a new supply I guess. Sorry for reducing the SNR. -Bob On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2016 23 May 17:05 -0500, Bob Darlington wrote: > > Hey, a little OT, but I discovered today that my raspberry pi took my > noise > > floor from S9 constant (with some peaks higher) down to an S4 with peaks > > around S5 once I unplugged it. These things are BAD. I can't vouch for > > the r-pi 2 or 3 but I can say that my APRS digipeater is now off the air > > because of it till I get everything into a shielded metal enclosure. > > Actually, I found the wall wart one uses makes a lot of difference. I > had a couple to choose from and chose the one that was least noisy. > > 73, Nate, N0NB > > -- > > "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all > possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." > > Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rdarlington at gmail.com > From wunder at wunderwood.org Mon May 23 23:34:54 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 20:34:54 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] The KX2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2F7C6DC3-77D9-4535-9DCA-8FFAD49311C6@wunderwood.org> We have a 1991 Miata and a 2013 Mazdaspeed 3, plus a KX3, so I don?t think this is a useful analogy. The Miata and the KX3 are both original, clean, minimal designs that perform way above their weight. The KX2 is very obviously a stripped-down, lightweight KX3. Yes, the lineage goes back through the KX1, the NorCal 40A, and the Sierra. That lineage includes the KX3. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On May 23, 2016, at 7:53 PM, EricJ wrote: > > Is a Miata a stripped down version of an F150 pickup? > > Is an F150 a Miata with room to carry drywall? > > It's pretty obvious from the announcement the KX2 serves a different purpose than the KX3. It's not a smaller anything. It's a different rig for a different purpose. > > Looks to me its lineage is more KX1 and the preceding Trail Friendly Radios than anything else in the Elecraft line. > > http://www.elecraft.com/KX1/N6KR_KX1_History.html > > There's an evolution of rigs you should be comparing it to. > > Eric KE6US > > > > > On 5/23/2016 7:25 PM, w7aqk wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> The ink is barely dry on the release announcement for the KX2, but it has created quite a stir. A lot of people are very curious about this rig, including me. As a KX3 owner already, I'm not chomping at the bit to get a KX2, but I am trying to discern just what the meaningful differences are. >> >> I think it is intriguing that Elecraft chose to make it's new rig a "downsized" version of the KX3. I can certainly see how this has stimulated a lot of interest. What I'm trying to figure out is whether or not it does anything better than the KX3, or is it just a smaller, and less capable, radio. At this point, I'm inclined to think the latter. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but that seems to be a better generalization. Nonetheless, what you give up with a KX2 may not outweigh what you might gain with a KX3--it depends solely on the user. >> >> The KX2 is definitely smaller (about half the volume) and lighter, although the footprint is not quite that much different. The price is lighter too! As a true portable radio, I see this as a nice advantage. SOTA ops probably will really appreciate this! You still have a very competent radio with just about all the features a portable op would want or need. >> >> The things you give up are not insignificant. There is a slight power differential, which may, or may not, be a concern. Possibly more of a concern might be not having roofing filters. I've become a huge fan of having those. Also, losing access to 160 and 6 meters may be problematic for some. I'm not all that concerned about no AM or FM, but others might be. With the emphasis on being a "hand held" radio, some may lament no VHF/UHF as well. >> >> I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU. The one for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to see less capability. Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are great, and I guess I just get nervous about less. The ATU's in the KX1 and K1 were only moderately useful, and it was their reduced size that caused that. Elecraft can obviously put out superb ATU's, but they need some room to do that. >> >> I was disappointed to see that the PX3 would not mate with the KX2. In their "FAQ's", Elecraft sort of deflects that by simply suggesting that capability is more appropriate for a larger rig, like the KX3 or K3, but I'm still disappointed. Personally, I think it would have been a big plus if they could have made it work, but again, just not enough room in that smaller package--or I assume that was the problem. Or, maybe it was to just hold the cost down??? >> >> I know a lot of K3 owners, who also have KX3's, and have found the KX3 to be a very effective substitute/back-up in their main station. Lately I've been tinkering with that same process, and it works pretty darned well. However, I'm not sure the KX2 is nearly as good a substitute, or back-up. The lesser capabilities described above would explain much of that. I still much prefer the K3, but I don't give up all that much with the KX3. It's a great reason to own both! >> >> So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less? Is the KX2 a stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2? In any event, there are sufficient differences to require some analysis if you are trying to pick one over the other. If I didn't already have a KX3 I could probably get a headache trying to make that decision. Either way you go you are probably a "winner!" The "easy" way may be to just conclude you want both, and apparently some have already made that decision! I'm not sure that would be my decision, but hey, I haven't had my hands on a KX2 yet either! Hi. >> >> I'll be very interested in seeing some real in-depth reviews of the KX2. >> >> 73, >> >> Dave W7AQK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to eric_csuf at hotmail.com >> >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From w4sc at windstream.net Mon May 23 23:35:51 2016 From: w4sc at windstream.net (w4sc) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 23:35:51 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 first impressions and comments Message-ID: Managed to snag a KX2 at Dayton and had it on the air late Sunday afternoon. Worked a couple of stations on SSB, but mostly listening. KX2 will be great for back-packing / very portable ops. Don?t expect KX3 with ?roofing filter? RX performance. Controls of the KX2 are intuitive and well thought out. Easy to learn. Like the band change implementation. Don?t like the main knob, needs a ?dimple?. I had issue with knob drag on the encoder bearing/panel mount sleeve. Corrected by removing knob and carefully re-installing and leaving required knob to mounting sleeve clearance to stop drag. Speaker can easily be over driven. AF level set correctly, very good SSB performance. CW is great! No 6 meters. I would gladly give up 12 meters for 6 meter coverage. How about a KX2-6,,, Wayne/ Eric?? All you new owners enjoy your KX2. It is a sweet little radio. Now, back to 40M / 20M listening. de Ben W4SC From n6kr at elecraft.com Mon May 23 23:41:23 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 20:41:23 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] The KX2 In-Reply-To: <7b8bae3c-1cfd-919d-8193-55d263d66c94@socal.rr.com> References: <7b8bae3c-1cfd-919d-8193-55d263d66c94@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <5C5D5FCF-5BA1-48E7-A40A-65F808A50BAB@elecraft.com> The KXAT2 can, over its target range of 80-10 m, match essentially the same load range as the KXAT3 on these bands. The KXAT3 has one more L and C, improving matches on 160 m. In exactly 10 words, the KX2 is "the world's first all-HF-band, SSB/CW/data HT" :) 73, Wayne On May 23, 2016, at 7:56 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > Some good observations, Dale. A comparison with the KX1 might also be pertinent, since that is the radio in the Elecraft line I see it replacing. > > One thing: You said "I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU. The one for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to see less capability. Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are great, and I guess I just get nervous about less.". I've seen nothing to suggest less capability in the ATU vs. the KX3's ATU. The KX2 FAQ includes "7L/7C network (KXAT2) - 8L/8C network (KXAT3)", but with fewer bands I suspect the ATUs are equally capable -- and the spec in the FAQ says "matching range typ. 20:1 or higher" which seems good enough. > > Would I want to lug and power my PX3 with the KX2? Seems that would defeat the purpose of a small, portable battery-operated rig. But for portable ops with an AC supply, I'd take the KX3 so it doesn't matter to me. Clearly the KX2 is not intended to replace the KX3 in the Elecraft product line. > > As to "So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less? Is the KX2 a stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2?", perhaps a KX1 comparison would be more to the point, Dale :-) > > 73, Phil W7OX > > On 5/23/16 7:25 PM, w7aqk wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> The ink is barely dry on the release announcement for the KX2, but it has created quite a stir. A lot of people are very curious about this rig, including me. As a KX3 owner already, I'm not chomping at the bit to get a KX2, but I am trying to discern just what the meaningful differences are. >> >> I think it is intriguing that Elecraft chose to make it's new rig a "downsized" version of the KX3. I can certainly see how this has stimulated a lot of interest. What I'm trying to figure out is whether or not it does anything better than the KX3, or is it just a smaller, and less capable, radio. At this point, I'm inclined to think the latter. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but that seems to be a better generalization. Nonetheless, what you give up with a KX2 may not outweigh what you might gain with a KX3--it depends solely on the user. >> >> The KX2 is definitely smaller (about half the volume) and lighter, although the footprint is not quite that much different. The price is lighter too! As a true portable radio, I see this as a nice advantage. SOTA ops probably will really appreciate this! You still have a very competent radio with just about all the features a portable op would want or need. >> >> The things you give up are not insignificant. There is a slight power differential, which may, or may not, be a concern. Possibly more of a concern might be not having roofing filters. I've become a huge fan of having those. Also, losing access to 160 and 6 meters may be problematic for some. I'm not all that concerned about no AM or FM, but others might be. With the emphasis on being a "hand held" radio, some may lament no VHF/UHF as well. >> >> I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU. The one for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to see less capability. Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are great, and I guess I just get nervous about less. The ATU's in the KX1 and K1 were only moderately useful, and it was their reduced size that caused that. Elecraft can obviously put out superb ATU's, but they need some room to do that. >> >> I was disappointed to see that the PX3 would not mate with the KX2. In their "FAQ's", Elecraft sort of deflects that by simply suggesting that capability is more appropriate for a larger rig, like the KX3 or K3, but I'm still disappointed. Personally, I think it would have been a big plus if they could have made it work, but again, just not enough room in that smaller package--or I assume that was the problem. Or, maybe it was to just hold the cost down??? >> >> I know a lot of K3 owners, who also have KX3's, and have found the KX3 to be a very effective substitute/back-up in their main station. Lately I've been tinkering with that same process, and it works pretty darned well. However, I'm not sure the KX2 is nearly as good a substitute, or back-up. The lesser capabilities described above would explain much of that. I still much prefer the K3, but I don't give up all that much with the KX3. It's a great reason to own both! >> >> So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less? Is the KX2 a stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2? In any event, there are sufficient differences to require some analysis if you are trying to pick one over the other. If I didn't already have a KX3 I could probably get a headache trying to make that decision. Either way you go you are probably a "winner!" The "easy" way may be to just conclude you want both, and apparently some have already made that decision! I'm not sure that would be my decision, but hey, I haven't had my hands on a KX2 yet either! Hi. >> >> I'll be very interested in seeing some real in-depth reviews of the KX2. >> >> 73, >> >> Dave W7AQK > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From matt.vk2rq at gmail.com Mon May 23 23:47:41 2016 From: matt.vk2rq at gmail.com (Matt Maguire) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 03:47:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question In-Reply-To: <001d01d1b568$752832d0$5f789870$@biz> References: <6F69F4FD3E5C4ACDBB62B6BD9B230DD7@hamroomPpc> <004401d1b529$c4a6fe20$4df4fa60$@biz> <2db29ae4-8e8c-b648-0965-8b85bb548d49@triconet.org> <001d01d1b568$752832d0$5f789870$@biz> Message-ID: Hi Ron, Of course, you're right, you want the set screw against the flat part of the shaft, otherwise the knob could be pulled even more off-centre. Thanks for clarifying. 73, Matt VK2RQ On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 8:00 PM -0700, "Ron D'Eau Claire" wrote: Matt: What I was referring to is that with a flat the KX2 shaft is no longer round, so the set screws can pull the knob off center unless they are carefully positioned so they pull the knob against the round segment of the shaft. The shaft of the KX2 encoder is slightly smaller than the KX3 encoder - about 10 mils - so that can contribute a small amount eccentricity as well. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Matt Maguire Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 4:52 PM To: Wes; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question Draw a circle on a piece of paper radius R, and mark it's centre. now draw a smaller circle inside radius r, which touches the bigger circle at one point, and mark it's centre. You'll see the distance between the centre points is (R - r). imagine the big circle is the hole in the VFO knob, and the little circle is the VFO shaft. The flat part of the VFO shaft is irrelevant, as the screw is adjusted to meet it wherever it sits. I hope this help explain how the knob will not be centred. 73, Matt VK2RQ Get Outlook for iOS On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 2:03 PM -0700, "Wes" wrote: Leave one screw loose, drive the other one into the flat. How could it not be centered? On 5/23/2016 12:31 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > It will fit, although the KX2 knob is a press-on type with a flat on the encoder shaft while the K3 VFO B knob uses two set-screws on a round shaft. > > Thanks to the flat, the K3 VFO B knob doesn't center perfectly. > > 73, Ron AC7AC > > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to matt.vk2rq at gmail.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From donwilh at embarqmail.com Mon May 23 23:49:37 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 23:49:37 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] The KX2 In-Reply-To: <5C5D5FCF-5BA1-48E7-A40A-65F808A50BAB@elecraft.com> References: <7b8bae3c-1cfd-919d-8193-55d263d66c94@socal.rr.com> <5C5D5FCF-5BA1-48E7-A40A-65F808A50BAB@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <5c1eab26-38b3-5a9d-1be8-797ab1b1af34@embarqmail.com> Is the Dick Tracy "wrist radio" next? How do the paddles connect to that one? 73, Don W3FPR On 5/23/2016 11:41 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > The KXAT2 can, over its target range of 80-10 m, match essentially the same load range as the KXAT3 on these bands. > > The KXAT3 has one more L and C, improving matches on 160 m. > > In exactly 10 words, the KX2 is "the world's first all-HF-band, SSB/CW/data HT" :) > > From n6kr at elecraft.com Mon May 23 23:53:42 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 20:53:42 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] The KX2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Dave, > I think it is intriguing that Elecraft chose to make it's new rig a "downsized" version of the KX3. I can certainly see how this has stimulated a lot of interest. What I'm trying to figure out is whether or not it does anything better than the KX3, or is it just a smaller, and less capable, radio. At this point, I'm inclined to think the latter. The KX2, given its size/weight, can go places no other 9-band/mutli-mode HF transceiver can go. This makes it "more capable" in a sense. It has fewer controls, but they're the ones you generally need for ultra portable operation. It has a number of features that make it ideal for HT-style (or horizontally deployed/hand-held) operation: - built-in mic - battery shifted to the left (bottom, when hand-held) - heat sink on the right (top, when hand-held) - XMIT switch easily accessible for use as PTT - attached paddle length reduced, easily accessible during HT use - amp-hours metering for better tracking battery life - quick-disconnet jack for trailing counterpoise wire > I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU. The one for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to see less capability. See previous post. There is one less L and C, and those were primarily for better coverage of 160 meters. > I was disappointed to see that the PX3 would not mate with the KX2.... that capability is more appropriate for a larger rig ... just not enough room in that smaller package ... maybe it was to just hold the cost down??? All of the above. The feature set was carefully targeted to keep the cost lower, making it a good first HF rig for new operators. > > So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less? See previous email :) 73, Wayne N6KR From w7aqk at cox.net Mon May 23 23:56:36 2016 From: w7aqk at cox.net (w7aqk) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 20:56:36 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] The KX2 Message-ID: <2E9C603D895346AA8072E6948CD5856D@LAPTOPEPVQLR1I> Eric and All, Boy, I don't know Eric!!! I see your point, but I don't agree at all that this is more a move from/towards the KX1/K1 than it is from the KX3. Even Elecraft seems to view this as a comparison between the KX2 and the KX3. Just look at the FAQ page: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX2%20FAQ%20v-1-1a.pdf They even have a chart of feature comparisons between those two rigs specifically!!! No mention of either the KX1 or K1 there! The KX2 is a reduced size look-alike to the KX3. It's just got some feature differentials, but even more feature inclusions! It's an SDR, just as the KX3 is, and it takes much the same advantage of that platform. Yes, it is a move towards smaller size, like the K1 and KX1, but the KX2 has KX3 "genes" all over it! That's my only point, and not intended to be critical either. There is a huge comparability to the KX3, but not much to either of those older rigs. In any event, I'm not sure very many people will be evaluating acquiring this new radio as opposed to a K1 or KX1, but I bet bunches of folks will be evaluating the KX2 vs. the KX3. That said, I suppose even more people will be motivated to put their K1's and KX3's on the shelf, but I think the KX3 already had the biggest impact on that. For that matter, so did a lot of other more recent offerings from other sources. The K1 or KX1 is an apples/oranges comparison to the KX2. The KX2 is an oranges/tangerines comparison to the KX3. Or, to use your comparison, how about an F-150 crew cab 4X4, vs. an F-150 standard with a short bed??? Well, you get my point even if you don't agree with it. Cheers! Dave W7AQK From n6kr at elecraft.com Tue May 24 00:00:19 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 21:00:19 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 first impressions and comments In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <77986EB4-CFD5-41EC-B83D-B488A00A830C@elecraft.com> On May 23, 2016, at 8:35 PM, "w4sc" wrote: > Managed to snag a KX2 at Dayton and had it on the air late Sunday afternoon. Worked a couple of stations on SSB, but mostly listening. > > KX2 will be great for back-packing / very portable ops. Don?t expect KX3 with ?roofing filter? RX performance. > > Controls of the KX2 are intuitive and well thought out. Easy to learn. Like the band change implementation. > > Don?t like the main knob, needs a ?dimple?. I had issue with knob drag on the encoder bearing/panel mount sleeve. Corrected by removing knob and carefully re-installing and leaving required knob to mounting sleeve clearance to stop drag. I would avoid using a dimple, as this would tempt the operator to apply more radial force to the knob, hastening encoder wear. Instead, try running your finger lightly along the edge of the knob as you rotate it. This works surprisingly well for fast QSYs. (Also make use of coarse tuning with the OFS control when VFO A is set for fine tuning.) 73, Wayne N6KR From matt.vk2rq at gmail.com Tue May 24 00:04:36 2016 From: matt.vk2rq at gmail.com (Matt Maguire) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 04:04:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] The KX2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow, ten words or less is tough, like writing a haiku :-) "Smaller KX3 with fewer bands, no panadapter, no roofing filter". There, that's 10 words. Note that even without a roofing filter, the performance is still excellent, and its compact size makes it the perfect little "grab-n-go" radio. 73, Matt VK2RQ On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 7:25 PM -0700, "w7aqk" wrote: Hi All, The ink is barely dry on the release announcement for the KX2, but it has created quite a stir. A lot of people are very curious about this rig, including me. As a KX3 owner already, I'm not chomping at the bit to get a KX2, but I am trying to discern just what the meaningful differences are. I think it is intriguing that Elecraft chose to make it's new rig a "downsized" version of the KX3. I can certainly see how this has stimulated a lot of interest. What I'm trying to figure out is whether or not it does anything better than the KX3, or is it just a smaller, and less capable, radio. At this point, I'm inclined to think the latter. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but that seems to be a better generalization. Nonetheless, what you give up with a KX2 may not outweigh what you might gain with a KX3--it depends solely on the user. The KX2 is definitely smaller (about half the volume) and lighter, although the footprint is not quite that much different. The price is lighter too! As a true portable radio, I see this as a nice advantage. SOTA ops probably will really appreciate this! You still have a very competent radio with just about all the features a portable op would want or need. The things you give up are not insignificant. There is a slight power differential, which may, or may not, be a concern. Possibly more of a concern might be not having roofing filters. I've become a huge fan of having those. Also, losing access to 160 and 6 meters may be problematic for some. I'm not all that concerned about no AM or FM, but others might be. With the emphasis on being a "hand held" radio, some may lament no VHF/UHF as well. I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU. The one for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to see less capability. Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are great, and I guess I just get nervous about less. The ATU's in the KX1 and K1 were only moderately useful, and it was their reduced size that caused that. Elecraft can obviously put out superb ATU's, but they need some room to do that. I was disappointed to see that the PX3 would not mate with the KX2. In their "FAQ's", Elecraft sort of deflects that by simply suggesting that capability is more appropriate for a larger rig, like the KX3 or K3, but I'm still disappointed. Personally, I think it would have been a big plus if they could have made it work, but again, just not enough room in that smaller package--or I assume that was the problem. Or, maybe it was to just hold the cost down??? I know a lot of K3 owners, who also have KX3's, and have found the KX3 to be a very effective substitute/back-up in their main station. Lately I've been tinkering with that same process, and it works pretty darned well. However, I'm not sure the KX2 is nearly as good a substitute, or back-up. The lesser capabilities described above would explain much of that. I still much prefer the K3, but I don't give up all that much with the KX3. It's a great reason to own both! So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less? Is the KX2 a stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2? In any event, there are sufficient differences to require some analysis if you are trying to pick one over the other. If I didn't already have a KX3 I could probably get a headache trying to make that decision. Either way you go you are probably a "winner!" The "easy" way may be to just conclude you want both, and apparently some have already made that decision! I'm not sure that would be my decision, but hey, I haven't had my hands on a KX2 yet either! Hi. I'll be very interested in seeing some real in-depth reviews of the KX2. 73, Dave W7AQK ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to matt.vk2rq at gmail.com From kevinr at coho.net Tue May 24 00:23:25 2016 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr at coho.net) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 21:23:25 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 haiku (attempt 1) Message-ID: <9c8d6ea7-107d-42a3-698d-adae7bf6d9df@coho.net> It is a small rig Full of well thought out features Many bands and modes Kevin. KD5ONS From n6kr at elecraft.com Tue May 24 00:34:36 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 21:34:36 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] The KX2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In his book "The Joy of QRP," Ade Weiss famously said: If there is a place, and you can get to it, you must operate from there. This is the motivation behind the KX2. Thanks to its small size and high level of integration, it's the radio you'd wish you had while hanging precariously from a cliff, sitting high in a tree, hiding from burglars in an attic, or any of numerous other likely operating scenarios. 73, Wayne N6KR On May 23, 2016, at 9:04 PM, Matt Maguire wrote: > Wow, ten words or less is tough, like writing a haiku :-) > "Smaller KX3 with fewer bands, no panadapter, no roofing filter". > There, that's 10 words. Note that even without a roofing filter, the performance is still excellent, and its compact size makes it the perfect little "grab-n-go" radio. > 73, Matt VK2RQ > > > > > > On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 7:25 PM -0700, "w7aqk" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > The ink is barely dry on the release announcement for the KX2, but it has > created quite a stir. A lot of people are very curious about this rig, > including me. As a KX3 owner already, I'm not chomping at the bit to get a > KX2, but I am trying to discern just what the meaningful differences are. > > I think it is intriguing that Elecraft chose to make it's new rig a > "downsized" version of the KX3. I can certainly see how this has stimulated > a lot of interest. What I'm trying to figure out is whether or not it does > anything better than the KX3, or is it just a smaller, and less capable, > radio. At this point, I'm inclined to think the latter. That's not > necessarily a bad thing, but that seems to be a better generalization. > Nonetheless, what you give up with a KX2 may not outweigh what you might > gain with a KX3--it depends solely on the user. > > The KX2 is definitely smaller (about half the volume) and lighter, although > the footprint is not quite that much different. The price is lighter too! > As a true portable radio, I see this as a nice advantage. SOTA ops probably > will really appreciate this! You still have a very competent radio with > just about all the features a portable op would want or need. > > The things you give up are not insignificant. There is a slight power > differential, which may, or may not, be a concern. Possibly more of a > concern might be not having roofing filters. I've become a huge fan of > having those. Also, losing access to 160 and 6 meters may be problematic > for some. I'm not all that concerned about no AM or FM, but others might > be. With the emphasis on being a "hand held" radio, some may lament no > VHF/UHF as well. > > I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU. The one > for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to see > less capability. Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are great, and I guess I > just get nervous about less. The ATU's in the KX1 and K1 were only > moderately useful, and it was their reduced size that caused that. Elecraft > can obviously put out superb ATU's, but they need some room to do that. > > I was disappointed to see that the PX3 would not mate with the KX2. In > their "FAQ's", Elecraft sort of deflects that by simply suggesting that > capability is more appropriate for a larger rig, like the KX3 or K3, but I'm > still disappointed. Personally, I think it would have been a big plus if > they could have made it work, but again, just not enough room in that > smaller package--or I assume that was the problem. Or, maybe it was to just > hold the cost down??? > > I know a lot of K3 owners, who also have KX3's, and have found the KX3 to be > a very effective substitute/back-up in their main station. Lately I've been > tinkering with that same process, and it works pretty darned well. However, > I'm not sure the KX2 is nearly as good a substitute, or back-up. The lesser > capabilities described above would explain much of that. I still much > prefer the K3, but I don't give up all that much with the KX3. It's a great > reason to own both! > > So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less? Is the KX2 a > stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2? In any event, > there are sufficient differences to require some analysis if you are trying > to pick one over the other. If I didn't already have a KX3 I could probably > get a headache trying to make that decision. Either way you go you are > probably a "winner!" The "easy" way may be to just conclude you want both, > and apparently some have already made that decision! I'm not sure that > would be my decision, but hey, I haven't had my hands on a KX2 yet either! > Hi. > > I'll be very interested in seeing some real in-depth reviews of the KX2. > > 73, > > Dave W7AQK > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to matt.vk2rq at gmail.com > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From n6kr at elecraft.com Tue May 24 00:36:13 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 21:36:13 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 haiku (attempt 1) In-Reply-To: <9c8d6ea7-107d-42a3-698d-adae7bf6d9df@coho.net> References: <9c8d6ea7-107d-42a3-698d-adae7bf6d9df@coho.net> Message-ID: <8C799CC5-D87A-4FB5-963E-D2514C61E5CC@elecraft.com> :) On May 23, 2016, at 9:23 PM, "kevinr at coho.net" wrote: > It is a small rig > > Full of well thought out features > > Many bands and modes > > > Kevin. KD5ONS > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Tue May 24 00:53:08 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes) Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 21:53:08 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question In-Reply-To: References: <6F69F4FD3E5C4ACDBB62B6BD9B230DD7@hamroomPpc> <004401d1b529$c4a6fe20$4df4fa60$@biz> <2db29ae4-8e8c-b648-0965-8b85bb548d49@triconet.org> <001d01d1b568$752832d0$5f789870$@biz> Message-ID: <01bc5c1b-5546-7afd-5e44-754b28cfcfb1@triconet.org> Does that make me right too? On 5/23/2016 8:47 PM, Matt Maguire wrote: > Hi Ron, > Of course, you're right, you want the set screw against the flat part of the shaft, otherwise the knob could be pulled even more off-centre. Thanks for clarifying. > > 73, Matt VK2RQ > > From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Tue May 24 07:48:02 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 06:48:02 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question In-Reply-To: <001d01d1b568$752832d0$5f789870$@biz> References: <6F69F4FD3E5C4ACDBB62B6BD9B230DD7@hamroomPpc> <004401d1b529$c4a6fe20$4df4fa60$@biz> <2db29ae4-8e8c-b648-0965-8b85bb548d49@triconet.org> <001d01d1b568$752832d0$5f789870$@biz> Message-ID: <81edf957-84af-06b0-6b7f-310bbef43485@mediacombb.net> The solder is barely dry on the rig and people want to change the freaking knob....Without ever having used it. Just amazing. On 5/23/2016 10:00 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > Matt: > What I was referring to is that with a flat the KX2 shaft is no longer > round, so the set screws can pull the knob off center unless they are > carefully positioned so they pull the knob against the round segment of the > shaft. > > The shaft of the KX2 encoder is slightly smaller than the KX3 encoder - > about 10 mils - so that can contribute a small amount eccentricity as well. > > 73, Ron AC7AC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Matt > Maguire > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 4:52 PM > To: Wes; elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question > > Draw a circle on a piece of paper radius R, and mark it's centre. now draw a > smaller circle inside radius r, which touches the bigger circle at one > point, and mark it's centre. You'll see the distance between the centre > points is (R - r). imagine the big circle is the hole in the VFO knob, and > the little circle is the VFO shaft. The flat part of the VFO shaft is > irrelevant, as the screw is adjusted to meet it wherever it sits. > I hope this help explain how the knob will not be centred. > 73, Matt VK2RQ > > Get Outlook for iOS > > > > > On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 2:03 PM -0700, "Wes" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Leave one screw loose, drive the other one into the flat. How could it not > be centered? > > > On 5/23/2016 12:31 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: >> It will fit, although the KX2 knob is a press-on type with a flat on the > encoder shaft while the K3 VFO B knob uses two set-screws on a round shaft. >> Thanks to the flat, the K3 VFO B knob doesn't center perfectly. >> >> 73, Ron AC7AC >> >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to matt.vk2rq at gmail.com > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevin.stover at mediacombb.net > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From nr4c at widomaker.com Tue May 24 08:27:34 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 08:27:34 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] The KX2 In-Reply-To: <7b8bae3c-1cfd-919d-8193-55d263d66c94@socal.rr.com> References: <7b8bae3c-1cfd-919d-8193-55d263d66c94@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <9ACD1974-E1BC-414B-803F-3630AA48B4F0@widomaker.com> As to the ATU in the KX2, 7K/7C is the same range as the KX1, T1 and I think the K2 ATU. Comparisons with KX1 make sense but how bout a small pocket sized "next step" to the K2? Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 23, 2016, at 10:56 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > > Some good observations, Dale. A comparison with the KX1 might also be pertinent, since that is the radio in the Elecraft line I see it replacing. > > One thing: You said "I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU. The one for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to see less capability. Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are great, and I guess I just get nervous about less.". I've seen nothing to suggest less capability in the ATU vs. the KX3's ATU. The KX2 FAQ includes "7L/7C network (KXAT2) - 8L/8C network (KXAT3)", but with fewer bands I suspect the ATUs are equally capable -- and the spec in the FAQ says "matching range typ. 20:1 or higher" which seems good enough. > > Would I want to lug and power my PX3 with the KX2? Seems that would defeat the purpose of a small, portable battery-operated rig. But for portable ops with an AC supply, I'd take the KX3 so it doesn't matter to me. Clearly the KX2 is not intended to replace the KX3 in the Elecraft product line. > > As to "So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less? Is the KX2 a stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2?", perhaps a KX1 comparison would be more to the point, Dale :-) > > 73, Phil W7OX > >> On 5/23/16 7:25 PM, w7aqk wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> The ink is barely dry on the release announcement for the KX2, but it has created quite a stir. A lot of people are very curious about this rig, including me. As a KX3 owner > Some good observations, Dale. A comparison with the KX1 might also be pertinent, since that is the radio in the Elecraft line I see it replacing. > > One thing: You said "I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU. The one for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to see less capability. Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are great, and I guess I just get nervous about less.". I've seen nothing to suggest less capability in the ATU vs. the KX3's ATU. The KX2 FAQ includes "7L/7C network (KXAT2) - 8L/8C network (KXAT3)", but with fewer bands I suspect the ATUs are equally capable -- and the spec in the FAQ says "matching range typ. 20:1 or higher" which seems good enough. > > Would I want to lug and power my PX3 with the KX2? Seems that would defeat the purpose of a small, portable battery-operated rig. But for portable ops with an AC supply, I'd take the KX3 so it doesn't matter to me. Clearly the KX2 is not intended to replace the KX3 in the Elecraft product line. > > As to "So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less? Is the KX2 a stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2?", perhaps a KX1 comparison would be more to the point, Dale :-) > > 73, Phil W7OX > >> On 5/23/16 7:25 PM, w7aqk wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> The ink is barely dry on the release announcement for the KX2, but it has created quite a stir. A lot of people are very curious about this rig, including me. As a KX3 owner already, I'm not chomping at the bit to get a KX2, but I am trying to discern just what the meaningful differences are. >> >> I think it is intriguing that Elecraft chose to make it's new rig a "downsized" version of the KX3. I can certainly see how this has stimulated a lot of interest. What I'm trying to figure out is whether or not it does anything better than the KX3, or is it just a smaller, and less capable, radio. At this point, I'm inclined to think the latter. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but that seems to be a better generalization. Nonetheless, what you give up with a KX2 may not outweigh what you might gain with a KX3--it depends solely on the user. >> >> The KX2 is definitely smaller (about half the volume) and lighter, although the footprint is not quite that much different. The price is lighter too! As a true portable radio, I see this as a nice advantage. SOTA ops probably will really appreciate this! You still have a very competent radio with just about all the features a portable op would want or need. >> >> The things you give up are not insignificant. There is a slight power differential, which may, or may not, be a concern. Possibly more of a concern might be not having roofing filters. I've become a huge fan of having those. Also, losing access to 160 and 6 meters may be problematic for some. I'm not all that concerned about no AM or FM, but others might be. With the emphasis on being a "hand held" radio, some may lament no VHF/UHF as well. >> >> I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU. The one for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to see less capability. Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are great, and I guess I just get nervous about less. The ATU's in the KX1 and K1 were only moderately useful, and it was their reduced size that caused that. Elecraft can obviously put out superb ATU's, but they need some room to do that. >> >> I was disappointed to see that the PX3 would not mate with the KX2. In their "FAQ's", Elecraft sort of deflects that by simply suggesting that capability is more appropriate for a larger rig, like the KX3 or K3, but I'm still disappointed. Personally, I think it would have been a big plus if they could have made it work, but again, just not enough room in that smaller package--or I assume that was the problem. Or, maybe it was to just hold the cost down??? >> >> I know a lot of K3 owners, who also have KX3's, and have found the KX3 to be a very effective substitute/back-up in their main station. Lately I've been tinkering with that same process, and it works pretty darned well. However, I'm not sure the KX2 is nearly as good a substitute, or back-up. The lesser capabilities described above would explain much of that. I still much prefer the K3, but I don't give up all that much with the KX3. It's a great reason to own both! >> >> So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less? Is the KX2 a stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2? In any event, there are sufficient differences to require some analysis if you are trying to pick one over the other. If I didn't already have a KX3 I could probably get a headache trying to make that decision. Either way you go you are probably a "winner!" The "easy" way may be to just conclude you want both, and apparently some have already made that decision! I'm not sure that would be my decision, but hey, I haven't had my hands on a KX2 yet either! Hi. >> >> I'll be very interested in seeing some real in-depth reviews of the KX2. >> >> 73, >> >> Dave W7AQK > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From ae5x at juno.com Tue May 24 08:29:37 2016 From: ae5x at juno.com (ae5x at juno.com) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 12:29:37 GMT Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 haiku (attempt 1) Message-ID: <20160524.072937.19701.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> Argonaut missing 12 meter band Worked Christmas Island with K3 QRP KX2 could have done it. John AE5X http://ae5x.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ LendingTree 4 Cards That Charge $0 In Interest Until 2017 On Balance Transfers http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5744496d7aebe496d0bf8st04vuc From matt.vk2rq at gmail.com Tue May 24 08:32:01 2016 From: matt.vk2rq at gmail.com (Matt Maguire) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 12:32:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] The KX2 In-Reply-To: <9ACD1974-E1BC-414B-803F-3630AA48B4F0@widomaker.com> References: <7b8bae3c-1cfd-919d-8193-55d263d66c94@socal.rr.com> <9ACD1974-E1BC-414B-803F-3630AA48B4F0@widomaker.com> Message-ID: Architecturally the KX2 much more closely resembles the KX3 than the K2. 73, Matt VK2RQ On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:28 AM -0700, "Nr4c" wrote: As to the ATU in the KX2, 7K/7C is the same range as the KX1, T1 and I think the K2 ATU. Comparisons with KX1 make sense but how bout a small pocket sized "next step" to the K2? Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 23, 2016, at 10:56 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > > Some good observations, Dale. A comparison with the KX1 might also be pertinent, since that is the radio in the Elecraft line I see it replacing. > > One thing: You said "I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU. The one for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to see less capability. Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are great, and I guess I just get nervous about less.". I've seen nothing to suggest less capability in the ATU vs. the KX3's ATU. The KX2 FAQ includes "7L/7C network (KXAT2) - 8L/8C network (KXAT3)", but with fewer bands I suspect the ATUs are equally capable -- and the spec in the FAQ says "matching range typ. 20:1 or higher" which seems good enough. > > Would I want to lug and power my PX3 with the KX2? Seems that would defeat the purpose of a small, portable battery-operated rig. But for portable ops with an AC supply, I'd take the KX3 so it doesn't matter to me. Clearly the KX2 is not intended to replace the KX3 in the Elecraft product line. > > As to "So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less? Is the KX2 a stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2?", perhaps a KX1 comparison would be more to the point, Dale :-) > > 73, Phil W7OX > >> On 5/23/16 7:25 PM, w7aqk wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> The ink is barely dry on the release announcement for the KX2, but it has created quite a stir. A lot of people are very curious about this rig, including me. As a KX3 owner > Some good observations, Dale. A comparison with the KX1 might also be pertinent, since that is the radio in the Elecraft line I see it replacing. > > One thing: You said "I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU. The one for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to see less capability. Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are great, and I guess I just get nervous about less.". I've seen nothing to suggest less capability in the ATU vs. the KX3's ATU. The KX2 FAQ includes "7L/7C network (KXAT2) - 8L/8C network (KXAT3)", but with fewer bands I suspect the ATUs are equally capable -- and the spec in the FAQ says "matching range typ. 20:1 or higher" which seems good enough. > > Would I want to lug and power my PX3 with the KX2? Seems that would defeat the purpose of a small, portable battery-operated rig. But for portable ops with an AC supply, I'd take the KX3 so it doesn't matter to me. Clearly the KX2 is not intended to replace the KX3 in the Elecraft product line. > > As to "So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less? Is the KX2 a stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2?", perhaps a KX1 comparison would be more to the point, Dale :-) > > 73, Phil W7OX > >> On 5/23/16 7:25 PM, w7aqk wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> The ink is barely dry on the release announcement for the KX2, but it has created quite a stir. A lot of people are very curious about this rig, including me. As a KX3 owner already, I'm not chomping at the bit to get a KX2, but I am trying to discern just what the meaningful differences are. >> >> I think it is intriguing that Elecraft chose to make it's new rig a "downsized" version of the KX3. I can certainly see how this has stimulated a lot of interest. What I'm trying to figure out is whether or not it does anything better than the KX3, or is it just a smaller, and less capable, radio. At this point, I'm inclined to think the latter. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but that seems to be a better generalization. Nonetheless, what you give up with a KX2 may not outweigh what you might gain with a KX3--it depends solely on the user. >> >> The KX2 is definitely smaller (about half the volume) and lighter, although the footprint is not quite that much different. The price is lighter too! As a true portable radio, I see this as a nice advantage. SOTA ops probably will really appreciate this! You still have a very competent radio with just about all the features a portable op would want or need. >> >> The things you give up are not insignificant. There is a slight power differential, which may, or may not, be a concern. Possibly more of a concern might be not having roofing filters. I've become a huge fan of having those. Also, losing access to 160 and 6 meters may be problematic for some. I'm not all that concerned about no AM or FM, but others might be. With the emphasis on being a "hand held" radio, some may lament no VHF/UHF as well. >> >> I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU. The one for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to see less capability. Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are great, and I guess I just get nervous about less. The ATU's in the KX1 and K1 were only moderately useful, and it was their reduced size that caused that. Elecraft can obviously put out superb ATU's, but they need some room to do that. >> >> I was disappointed to see that the PX3 would not mate with the KX2. In their "FAQ's", Elecraft sort of deflects that by simply suggesting that capability is more appropriate for a larger rig, like the KX3 or K3, but I'm still disappointed. Personally, I think it would have been a big plus if they could have made it work, but again, just not enough room in that smaller package--or I assume that was the problem. Or, maybe it was to just hold the cost down??? >> >> I know a lot of K3 owners, who also have KX3's, and have found the KX3 to be a very effective substitute/back-up in their main station. Lately I've been tinkering with that same process, and it works pretty darned well. However, I'm not sure the KX2 is nearly as good a substitute, or back-up. The lesser capabilities described above would explain much of that. I still much prefer the K3, but I don't give up all that much with the KX3. It's a great reason to own both! >> >> So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less? Is the KX2 a stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2? In any event, there are sufficient differences to require some analysis if you are trying to pick one over the other. If I didn't already have a KX3 I could probably get a headache trying to make that decision. Either way you go you are probably a "winner!" The "easy" way may be to just conclude you want both, and apparently some have already made that decision! I'm not sure that would be my decision, but hey, I haven't had my hands on a KX2 yet either! Hi. >> >> I'll be very interested in seeing some real in-depth reviews of the KX2. >> >> 73, >> >> Dave W7AQK > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to matt.vk2rq at gmail.com From drunkkennedy at gmail.com Tue May 24 08:51:02 2016 From: drunkkennedy at gmail.com (JJ) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 08:51:02 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] WTB K3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello all, I've been a very happy KX3 owner and love QRP CW operating. But there are times I would like to have 100 watts to rag chew in SSB as well. I do have an amp that will produce just over 100 watts but I'm spoiled with silent QSK. And it's a pain in the butt to put in and take out of line. So, I am looking to replace my beloved KX3 with a K3. I would like a K3 100 with the tuner and general coverage receive is a plus as are any other enhancements. The further south of $2K the better. Does anyone have a K3 to offer? Thanks and 73, Jon WS1K From kk5na at kk5na.com Tue May 24 08:56:00 2016 From: kk5na at kk5na.com (kk5na) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 07:56:00 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 haiku (attempt ) In-Reply-To: <20160524.072937.19701.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> References: <20160524.072937.19701.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <4845eb22-4b1d-5fa4-5897-7f9cd07d4b14@kk5na.com> K2 K3 KX1 KX2 KX3 These are like their users Each perfect in their own way Joe KK5NA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From va3ma at me.com Tue May 24 08:57:27 2016 From: va3ma at me.com (Dan - VA3MA) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 08:57:27 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Narrow Digital Modes ?? Message-ID: <36339378-65DB-4DE0-A268-E2F52F442EA3@me.com> Could Elecraft explain why the KX2 design doesn't allow operating say JT65 out of the box? What prohibits manufacturing the rig to do the narrow digital modes? Would be helpful to know Thanks Dan VA3MA From matt.vk2rq at gmail.com Tue May 24 09:11:06 2016 From: matt.vk2rq at gmail.com (Matt Maguire) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 13:11:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] Narrow Digital Modes ?? In-Reply-To: <36339378-65DB-4DE0-A268-E2F52F442EA3@me.com> References: <36339378-65DB-4DE0-A268-E2F52F442EA3@me.com> Message-ID: Some possible reasons might be:- JT65 is very heavy on number crunching, the low power MCU in the KX2 is likely not optimised for this- UI: JT65 programs generally use a waterfall, and have enough screen real estate to display info about all stations decoded, this is not practical on a KX2 display- time synchronisation -- JT65 requires an accurate realtime clock, usually synchronised to Internet NTP servers. The KX2 has no direct interface to the Internet- frequency stability -- JT65 has some stringent frequency stability requirements, it is possible that the KX2 may have difficulty providing this, especially if it is heating up with long held transmission times of a high duty cycle mode like JT65. 73, Matt VK2RQ On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:58 AM -0700, "Dan - VA3MA" wrote: Could Elecraft explain why the KX2 design doesn't allow operating say JT65 out of the box? What prohibits manufacturing the rig to do the narrow digital modes? Would be helpful to know Thanks Dan VA3MA ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to matt.vk2rq at gmail.com From w7ox at socal.rr.com Tue May 24 09:12:01 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 06:12:01 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] The KX2 In-Reply-To: <5c1eab26-38b3-5a9d-1be8-797ab1b1af34@embarqmail.com> References: <7b8bae3c-1cfd-919d-8193-55d263d66c94@socal.rr.com> <5C5D5FCF-5BA1-48E7-A40A-65F808A50BAB@elecraft.com> <5c1eab26-38b3-5a9d-1be8-797ab1b1af34@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <9829239b-3a2d-5c6d-b64a-0d559ab323d2@socal.rr.com> Don, perhaps you speak into the mic and the firmware converts that to CW. Come to think of it, all the hardware is there now -- so maybe new KX2 firmware will do it :-) Since Wayne says "the world's first all-HF-band, SSB/CW/data HT", I wonder if a rubber ducky is included? 73, Phil W7OX On 5/23/16 8:49 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Is the Dick Tracy "wrist radio" next? How do > the paddles connect to that one? > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 5/23/2016 11:41 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> The KXAT2 can, over its target range of 80-10 >> m, match essentially the same load range as the >> KXAT3 on these bands. >> >> The KXAT3 has one more L and C, improving >> matches on 160 m. >> >> In exactly 10 words, the KX2 is "the world's >> first all-HF-band, SSB/CW/data HT" :) >> From va3ma at me.com Tue May 24 09:16:45 2016 From: va3ma at me.com (Dan - VA3MA) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 09:16:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Narrow Digital Modes ?? In-Reply-To: References: <36339378-65DB-4DE0-A268-E2F52F442EA3@me.com> Message-ID: <364E981D-AFCC-46FA-8992-C55DE5B0B4A2@me.com> Sorry I didn't mean to imply decoding JT modes inside the KX2 I was wondering why the rig is not frequency stable for narrow digital modes using a PC for encode/decode. Why could it not be manufactured more stable?? Dan VA3MA On 2016-05-24, at 9:11, Matt Maguire wrote: Some possible reasons might be: - JT65 is very heavy on number crunching, the low power MCU in the KX2 is likely not optimised for this - UI: JT65 programs generally use a waterfall, and have enough screen real estate to display info about all stations decoded, this is not practical on a KX2 display - time synchronisation -- JT65 requires an accurate realtime clock, usually synchronised to Internet NTP servers. The KX2 has no direct interface to the Internet - frequency stability -- JT65 has some stringent frequency stability requirements, it is possible that the KX2 may have difficulty providing this, especially if it is heating up with long held transmission times of a high duty cycle mode like JT65. 73, Matt VK2RQ On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:58 AM -0700, "Dan - VA3MA" wrote: > Could Elecraft explain why the KX2 design doesn't allow operating say JT65 out of the box? > What prohibits manufacturing the rig to do the narrow digital modes? > Would be helpful to know > Thanks > Dan VA3MA > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to matt.vk2rq at gmail.com From ae5x at juno.com Tue May 24 09:16:26 2016 From: ae5x at juno.com (ae5x at juno.com) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 13:16:26 GMT Subject: [Elecraft] Small QRP Xcvr Use Question Message-ID: <20160524.081626.18803.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> The easiest way to operate effectively from the field on 40/80 meters is via NVIS propagation. I use to do this with my Norcal-40 quite often when taking day hikes by putting up a dipole about 5 to 8 feet high. No feedline was necessary - the radio was at the center of the dipole and I was always surprised at how well I received stations (and them, me) out to a distance of ~400 miles. For higher bands I use a Par End-Fedz. Their "MTR" model designed for 20, 30 and 40m works well on 17m also without requiring a tuner. I usually hang it inverted V fashion. John AE5X http://ae5x.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________ Putting a KX1 or KX2 in ones pocket is one thing; putting out a readable signal on 80 or 40 meters is something else and continues to challenge even the folks at home with full size rigs. ____________________________________________________________ LendingTree 4 Cards That Charge $0 In Interest Until 2017 On Balance Transfers http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/57445465d9fa254657c53st03vuc From matt.vk2rq at gmail.com Tue May 24 09:22:31 2016 From: matt.vk2rq at gmail.com (Matt Maguire) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 13:22:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] The KX2 In-Reply-To: <9829239b-3a2d-5c6d-b64a-0d559ab323d2@socal.rr.com> References: <7b8bae3c-1cfd-919d-8193-55d263d66c94@socal.rr.com> <5C5D5FCF-5BA1-48E7-A40A-65F808A50BAB@elecraft.com> <5c1eab26-38b3-5a9d-1be8-797ab1b1af34@embarqmail.com> <9829239b-3a2d-5c6d-b64a-0d559ab323d2@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Rubber duck is too inefficient on HF, try this instead:http://youtu.be/hoHNoIK_OUo 73, Matt VK2RQ On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 6:14 AM -0700, "Phil Wheeler" wrote: Don, perhaps you speak into the mic and the firmware converts that to CW. Come to think of it, all the hardware is there now -- so maybe new KX2 firmware will do it :-) Since Wayne says "the world's first all-HF-band, SSB/CW/data HT", I wonder if a rubber ducky is included? 73, Phil W7OX On 5/23/16 8:49 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Is the Dick Tracy "wrist radio" next? How do > the paddles connect to that one? > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 5/23/2016 11:41 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> The KXAT2 can, over its target range of 80-10 >> m, match essentially the same load range as the >> KXAT3 on these bands. >> >> The KXAT3 has one more L and C, improving >> matches on 160 m. >> >> In exactly 10 words, the KX2 is "the world's >> first all-HF-band, SSB/CW/data HT" :) >> ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to matt.vk2rq at gmail.com From w7bv at comcast.net Tue May 24 09:53:46 2016 From: w7bv at comcast.net (Robert S. McCuskey) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 06:53:46 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] F/S ELECRAFT KX-1 4 Band Message-ID: <001501d1b5c3$b1cbf900$1563eb00$@comcast.net> F/S: ELECRAFT KX-1, HF QRP four band, 80,40,30,20 transceiver in excellent condition from non-smoking environment, with KXB3080 meter band adapter, KXAT1 internal auto tuner, KXPD1 iambic key as well as alternate, compact Palm pico-paddle which attaches magnetically to side of KX-1, compact 13.5V 2.4A /100-240 v AC adapter, BNC-Post adapter for end-fed wire antenna and counterpoise, N8BX weighted tuning knob in addition to standard knob, manuals, Nifty Quick Reference Card, Pelican 1060 hard case. Picture in listing on eHam.net. Cost new $700+, asking $550 ($475 without Palm pico-paddle) shipped USPS Priority CONUS, PayPal preferred or USPS Money Order, email: w7bv at comcast dot net. From n1ho at yahoo.com Tue May 24 09:56:15 2016 From: n1ho at yahoo.com (Bayard Coolidge, N1HO) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 13:56:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] The KX2 In-Reply-To: <5c1eab26-38b3-5a9d-1be8-797ab1b1af34@embarqmail.com> References: <7b8bae3c-1cfd-919d-8193-55d263d66c94@socal.rr.com> <5C5D5FCF-5BA1-48E7-A40A-65F808A50BAB@elecraft.com> <5c1eab26-38b3-5a9d-1be8-797ab1b1af34@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <298277024.1977048.1464098175379.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> >>>?Is the Dick Tracy "wrist radio" next?? How do the paddles connect to? that one? Given Wayne and Eric's track record of innovation, I can imagine separatepaddles powered by a coin battery using Bluetooth to talk to the rig. Thereal question would then be which would weigh more, the rig or the paddles? :-) I'm not personally interested in a rig to take camping, since I don't go camping,but the KX2 appears to be an ideal rig for ARES/RACES emergency operations,particularly in the aftermath of a major weather event when there might not bean infrastructure available. Very impressive design/cost trade-offs and attentionto detail - the earlier comment about the knob dimple, for example. Nice work !! 73 de N1HO From gibson at alma.edu Tue May 24 10:04:36 2016 From: gibson at alma.edu (John Gibson) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 14:04:36 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 haiku (attempt 1) In-Reply-To: <8C799CC5-D87A-4FB5-963E-D2514C61E5CC@elecraft.com> References: <9c8d6ea7-107d-42a3-698d-adae7bf6d9df@coho.net>, <8C799CC5-D87A-4FB5-963E-D2514C61E5CC@elecraft.com> Message-ID: I must hike today. My KX2 goes with me. My link to the world. 73, John Gibson, no8v ________________________________________ From: Elecraft on behalf of Wayne Burdick Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:36:13 AM To: kevinr at coho.net Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 haiku (attempt 1) :) On May 23, 2016, at 9:23 PM, "kevinr at coho.net" wrote: > It is a small rig > > Full of well thought out features > > Many bands and modes > > > Kevin. KD5ONS > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to gibson at alma.edu From bob.novas at verizon.net Tue May 24 10:06:33 2016 From: bob.novas at verizon.net (Bob Novas) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 10:06:33 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S/P3 and fldigi Message-ID: <029d01d1b5c5$7aa937b0$6ffba710$@verizon.net> I was going to complain about a strange behavior with the K3S and P3, and then I thought, I wonder if it has anything to do with fldigi. And it did. I don't understand this, but here's what happens. On 30M, and only on 30M, if I tune a signal in on CW or SSB and while watching the P3 display switch to Data mode, the P3 display jumps ~10kHz to the right. Everything on the P3 display is still on the display, it's just displaced right about 10KHz. However, the receiver bar and the signal stay put. So it often looks like you're tuned to a place where there's no signal, but in fact you're receiving a signal. And, that signal is displayed on the P3, but 10KHz to the right. If I turn fldigi off, this does not happen. I think I've described what I see. Anybody got any clues? Thanks, Bob - W3DK From ebjr37 at charter.net Tue May 24 10:07:34 2016 From: ebjr37 at charter.net (Sandy) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 09:07:34 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Small QRP Xcvr Use Question In-Reply-To: <20160524.081626.18803.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> References: <20160524.081626.18803.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: If you don't mind carrying a "load" (If you are not hiking/backpacking) I have found the Buddipole/tripod is a very excellent antenna from 40-17 meters in the horizontal dipole configuration at 9' using the 9.5' whips. 40 and 20 use same identical setup just changing the setting of the loading coils from one band to the other. Very effective and fairly easy to setup with an analyzer for "tweaking it". I usually use an FT-817 with it on CW or SSB. For something simple but not nearly as good and touchy to use, is a 33' wire a small tuner like the MFJ "pocket tuner" and an LED SWR indicator for tuneup used with a 17-30' counterpoise wire laid on the ground. MUCH lighter. Everything will fit into a 8 X 8 X 8 photo bag plus a spare battery pack (LiPO 16 v A/H 12 volt pack the size of a 7" tablet computer.) Will last 3-4 hours or more. The problem that rears its ugly head is you require a limb of a tree up at least 15 - 20 feet or more to raise the wire as high as possible. Performance with the Buddipole is better if you can stand the additional bulk of the bag and parts to carry. 73, Sandy W5TVW (NO! I don't walk very far! Too damned old for that.) On 5/24/2016 8:16 AM, ae5x at juno.com wrote: > The easiest way to operate effectively from the field on 40/80 meters is via NVIS propagation. I use to do this with my Norcal-40 quite often when taking day hikes by putting up a dipole about 5 to 8 feet high. No feedline was necessary - the radio was at the center of the dipole and I was always surprised at how well I received stations (and them, me) out to a distance of ~400 miles. > > For higher bands I use a Par End-Fedz. Their "MTR" model designed for 20, 30 and 40m works well on 17m also without requiring a tuner. I usually hang it inverted V fashion. > > John AE5X > http://ae5x.blogspot.com/ > ____________________________________ > Putting a KX1 or KX2 in ones pocket is one thing; putting out a readable > > signal on 80 or 40 meters is something else and continues to challenge > > even the folks at home with full size rigs. > ____________________________________________________________ > LendingTree > 4 Cards That Charge $0 In Interest Until 2017 On Balance Transfers > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/57445465d9fa254657c53st03vuc > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ebjr37 at charter.net From bob.novas at verizon.net Tue May 24 10:13:53 2016 From: bob.novas at verizon.net (Bob Novas) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 10:13:53 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] wireless mouse as a wireless key paddle Message-ID: <02a501d1b5c6$80d2dd70$82789850$@verizon.net> Taking an idea from the folks that use a computer mouse as a morse code key for kids, what about using the guts of a wireless mouse as the wireless business end of a wireless paddle. Connect the paddle contacts to the mouse left and right button connections in the mouse, and use the mouse's USB dongle and a suitable driver to connect to the radio. Therein lies the rub - where do you plug the dongle? Maybe into a RPi that then commands the keying on the rig? With this idea you've got the wireless electronics part of the problem solved. Bob - W3DK From n6kr at elecraft.com Tue May 24 10:16:15 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 07:16:15 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] The Whip Wedge: An anti-rotation device for a whip on a right-angle BNC adapter Message-ID: <3499B1E4-C738-490E-B007-5AD1DBD2F10F@elecraft.com> If you use a whip with a right-angle BNC, it's free to rotate, and can flop over. Mathematically speaking, this is most likely to happen just as a breeze comes up and/or you were about to crack that Bouvet Island pileup using 1 watt. The simplest home-made anti-rotation device for use with your KX3 or KX2 is a piece of medium-soft rubber hose or tubing about 3/4" long. Simply wedge this bit of tubing between the right side panel and the whip's BNC connector. If the tubing is too long, it will put an unnecessary amount of force on the BNC connectors. Adjust as required so that you have just enough friction to prevent rotation. I proposed the name "Whip Wedge" in hopes that someone will now commercialize it. The rest is left as an exercise for the reader :) Ideally the Wedge would have a more interesting and functional shape than a simple cylinder. It might be a rectangular block with a semicircular cutout matching the side of the BNC connector. (Molding required.) 73, Wayne N6KR From kx4o at hamradio.me Tue May 24 10:34:46 2016 From: kx4o at hamradio.me (John Huggins, kx4o) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 14:34:46 -0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 haiku (attempt ) In-Reply-To: <4845eb22-4b1d-5fa4-5897-7f9cd07d4b14@kk5na.com> References: <20160524.072937.19701.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> <4845eb22-4b1d-5fa4-5897-7f9cd07d4b14@kk5na.com> Message-ID: The Haiku format: Contains seven five seven 'syllables' okay? From r.tristani at gmail.com Tue May 24 10:42:16 2016 From: r.tristani at gmail.com (Ramon Tristani) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 10:42:16 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Small QRP Xcvr Use Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am surprised no one has mentioned the TW2010 (www.twantennas.com ). It is very rugged, very lightweight, a bit expensive but worth every penny, made in the good old U.S.A. and will cover all ham bands from 20-10 meters including WARCs and fits in its own gulf club type carry on bag. Being a vertical dipole it does not need any radials and stands only about 8 feet on its ?quadrapod?. Takes less than five minutes to setup. And by the way, it will handIe a full kilowatt. I have used mine at my QTH but my intention is to use it with my next toy: the KX2. Ram?n E. Tristani Sr. NQ9V r.tristani at gmail.com https://www.flickr.com/photos/nq9v/ www.tristaniministries.org www.tristaniphotography.com > On May 23, 2016, at 9:46 PM, Rick Robinson wrote: > > Par/LNR end fedz are a very popular choice. They work well and are easy to > deploy. Several styles to suit your operating preferences. I also like the > Par HF Omni angles. These are good for parks and locations where you can > use a telescopic mast such as a flagpole. This is what I use . > > On Monday, May 23, 2016, Doug Hensley wrote: > >> I do not travel very much anymore so I admit I am behind times on >> >> this question but what are you guys with KX1, KX2 or KX3 using for >> >> an antenna in the field, at your hotel or while hiking/biking/etc. >> >> >> Putting a KX1 or KX2 in ones pocket is one thing; putting out a readable >> >> signal on 80 or 40 meters is something else and continues to challenge >> >> even the folks at home with full size rigs. >> >> >> Thanks in advance for your input. >> >> >> 73, Doug W5JV >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to rickw8zt at gmail.com >> > > > -- > Rick, W8ZT > > Sent from Gmail Mobile > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to r.tristani at gmail.com From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Tue May 24 11:06:27 2016 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 18:06:27 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 haiku (attempt 1) In-Reply-To: References: <9c8d6ea7-107d-42a3-698d-adae7bf6d9df@coho.net> <8C799CC5-D87A-4FB5-963E-D2514C61E5CC@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <59547c6f-0326-98f0-e7a2-19e9b6ee90eb@gmail.com> summer morning K3 works all the DX will KX2? 73, Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO Rehovot, Israel http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 24 May 2016 17:04, John Gibson wrote: > I must hike today. > > My KX2 goes with me. > > My link to the world. > > 73, > John Gibson, no8v > > ________________________________________ > From: Elecraft on behalf of Wayne Burdick > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:36:13 AM > To: kevinr at coho.net > Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 haiku (attempt 1) > > :) > > > On May 23, 2016, at 9:23 PM, "kevinr at coho.net" wrote: > >> It is a small rig >> >> Full of well thought out features >> >> Many bands and modes >> >> >> Kevin. KD5ONS >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gibson at alma.edu > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2vco.vic at gmail.com From n6kr at elecraft.com Tue May 24 11:23:45 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 08:23:45 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2, KX3, and supply voltage vs. power output In-Reply-To: References: <303A8ECD-C1E1-4254-BD64-7EEEB7FD0F41@elecraft.com> <9997978A-2B6A-43CE-B8B4-B1B57D396B41@wunderwood.org> Message-ID: <5B31EA5F-7F72-421A-9048-FBE15420D078@elecraft.com> "Charly w6cup at hotmail.com [KX3]" wrote: > > Regarding 10 watt operation with the KX2, I read operation on only 5 watts is recommended with internal 2.6 amp battery because of intermodulation ---but later I Read 10 watts is Ok-- Of course with xternal battery with higher voltage is ok with 10 watts -- which is it?? Charly W6CUP -- soon to be a very lucky owner of a KX2-- Hi Charly, Firmware in both the KX2 and KX3 will allow power output of up to 10 watts down to as low as 10 volts key-down. This is not a guaranteed level, but most of the radios will hit this level on most bands. In CW mode, there's no issue with doing this, since it's just an unmodulated carrier. In voice and data modes, we strongly recommend using higher voltages at full power output. This will result in much better suppression of IMD products (unwanted higher-order sidebands). (Like all other "12 volt" transceivers, the KX3 and KX2 are tested and characterized for IMD using a supply voltage of about 13.8 volts. This applies to both manufacturers and test organizations like the ARRL.) That said, *when necessary* you may want to run higher power in voice/data modes at lower voltage. "When necessary" always applies in an emergency situation, but in other cases this is a gray area left to the operator. For example, imagine you're standing on the edge of the Grand Canyon, holding your KX2 HT-style, when you hear South Dakota for the first time in your life, on 17 meter USB. You must work the station *now* or resolve to end your misery by plunging into the canyon, whip-first. He doesn't hear you when you call using 5 watts. So you check your supply voltage (using the DISP function) and see that your internal Li-ion battery is a solid 11.0 volts. Is this an "emergency" that calls for the temporary use of a full 10 watts, risking slightly higher IMD that at QRP levels will neither cause QRM nor harm small animals? Your call :) I suppose we could put all of this into the Specifications page of the manual. 73, Wayne N6KR From va3ma at me.com Tue May 24 11:27:25 2016 From: va3ma at me.com (Dan - VA3MA) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 11:27:25 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Narrow Digital Modes ?? Message-ID: <503F6F50-E17B-45E7-942C-6E8E6DB29A7C@me.com> Could Elecraft explain why the KX2 design doesn't allow operating say JT65 out of the box? What prohibits manufacturing the rig to do the narrow digital modes? Would be helpful to know Thanks Dan VA3MA I notice Wayne is ignoring explaining their design decision - commenting on all other questions ! From ny9h at arrl.net Tue May 24 11:31:36 2016 From: ny9h at arrl.net (Bill Steffey NY9H) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 11:31:36 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Small QRP Xcvr Use Question In-Reply-To: References: <20160524.081626.18803.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: i would think better is to have an kx3 or kx2 internal tuner ...esp one that matches 10-1. That eliminates weight, a box, cables and fussing... my kx3 did Verry well on the Danube River bank with just 18 foot wire about 8 feet up in a bush... no trees....ssb ( on a bike trip).... yes a 10ft counterpoise bill ny9h/3 At 10:07 AM 5/24/2016, Sandy wrote: >If you don't mind carrying a "load" (If you are not >hiking/backpacking) I have found the Buddipole/tripod is a very >excellent antenna from 40-17 meters in the From ron at cobi.biz Tue May 24 11:32:39 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 08:32:39 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question In-Reply-To: <81edf957-84af-06b0-6b7f-310bbef43485@mediacombb.net> References: <6F69F4FD3E5C4ACDBB62B6BD9B230DD7@hamroomPpc> <004401d1b529$c4a6fe20$4df4fa60$@biz> <2db29ae4-8e8c-b648-0965-8b85bb548d49@triconet.org> <001d01d1b568$752832d0$5f789870$@biz> <81edf957-84af-06b0-6b7f-310bbef43485@mediacombb.net> Message-ID: <004301d1b5d1$81978c00$84c6a400$@biz> I simply answered the question asked here by Bob, K3SRO, "Does anyone know if the smaller VFO knob "B" on the K3/K3S will fit the encoder shaft on the new KX-2?" Some of the resulting comments made by others were rather amusing. Ever since the K2 was Elecraft's main product (ca. 2000), knobs have been a constant source of discussion debate and deliberation as to weight, size, texture, and shape, beginning with, IIRC, adding the heavy rubber band found on produce like broccoli to the K2 knob. So I wasn't really surprised by the question. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Stover Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:48 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question The solder is barely dry on the rig and people want to change the freaking knob....Without ever having used it. Just amazing. From w5sv.dave at gmail.com Tue May 24 11:34:52 2016 From: w5sv.dave at gmail.com (David F. Reed) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 10:34:52 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Narrow Digital Modes ?? In-Reply-To: <503F6F50-E17B-45E7-942C-6E8E6DB29A7C@me.com> References: <503F6F50-E17B-45E7-942C-6E8E6DB29A7C@me.com> Message-ID: <1e3c7685-1e72-e3f8-7214-3a037dd0be9c@gmail.com> Dan, I cannot speak for Elecraft, but I suspect I know the answer. In my opinion, the issue is frequency stability; the narrower the bandwidth the more frequency stability is required. Frequency stability is frequently accomplished with a crystal oven, to keep the oscillator spot on. Heat eats power, so it may not be a compatible design objective for a QRP rig. just my thoughts on it... 73 de Dave, W5SV On 5/24/16 10:27, Dan - VA3MA wrote: > Could Elecraft explain why the KX2 design doesn't allow operating say JT65 out of the box? > What prohibits manufacturing the rig to do the narrow digital modes? > Would be helpful to know > Thanks > Dan VA3MA > > I notice Wayne is ignoring explaining their design decision - commenting on all other questions ! > ______________________________________________________________ From n6kr at elecraft.com Tue May 24 11:34:17 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 08:34:17 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] The KX2 In-Reply-To: References: <7b8bae3c-1cfd-919d-8193-55d263d66c94@socal.rr.com> <9ACD1974-E1BC-414B-803F-3630AA48B4F0@widomaker.com> Message-ID: In fact the two are so close that they share exactly the same DSP code. Hardware overlaps about 80%. 73, Wayne N6KR On May 24, 2016, at 5:32 AM, Matt Maguire wrote: > Architecturally the KX2 much more closely resembles the KX3 than the K2. > > 73, Matt VK2RQ > > > > > On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:28 AM -0700, "Nr4c" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > As to the ATU in the KX2, 7K/7C is the same range as the KX1, T1 and I think the K2 ATU. > > Comparisons with KX1 make sense but how bout a small pocket sized "next step" to the K2? > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On May 23, 2016, at 10:56 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: >> >> Some good observations, Dale. A comparison with the KX1 might also be pertinent, since that is the radio in the Elecraft line I see it replacing. >> >> One thing: You said "I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU. The one for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to see less capability. Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are great, and I guess I just get nervous about less.". I've seen nothing to suggest less capability in the ATU vs. the KX3's ATU. The KX2 FAQ includes "7L/7C network (KXAT2) - 8L/8C network (KXAT3)", but with fewer bands I suspect the ATUs are equally capable -- and the spec in the FAQ says "matching range typ. 20:1 or higher" which seems good enough. >> >> Would I want to lug and power my PX3 with the KX2? Seems that would defeat the purpose of a small, portable battery-operated rig. But for portable ops with an AC supply, I'd take the KX3 so it doesn't matter to me. Clearly the KX2 is not intended to replace the KX3 in the Elecraft product line. >> >> As to "So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less? Is the KX2 a stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2?", perhaps a KX1 comparison would be more to the point, Dale :-) >> >> 73, Phil W7OX >> >>> On 5/23/16 7:25 PM, w7aqk wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> The ink is barely dry on the release announcement for the KX2, but it has created quite a stir. A lot of people are very curious about this rig, including me. As a KX3 owner >> Some good observations, Dale. A comparison with the KX1 might also be pertinent, since that is the radio in the Elecraft line I see it replacing. >> >> One thing: You said "I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU. The one for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to see less capability. Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are great, and I guess I just get nervous about less.". I've seen nothing to suggest less capability in the ATU vs. the KX3's ATU. The KX2 FAQ includes "7L/7C network (KXAT2) - 8L/8C network (KXAT3)", but with fewer bands I suspect the ATUs are equally capable -- and the spec in the FAQ says "matching range typ. 20:1 or higher" which seems good enough. >> >> Would I want to lug and power my PX3 with the KX2? Seems that would defeat the purpose of a small, portable battery-operated rig. But for portable ops with an AC supply, I'd take the KX3 so it doesn't matter to me. Clearly the KX2 is not intended to replace the KX3 in the Elecraft product line. >> >> As to "So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less? Is the KX2 a stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2?", perhaps a KX1 comparison would be more to the point, Dale :-) >> >> 73, Phil W7OX >> >>> On 5/23/16 7:25 PM, w7aqk wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> The ink is barely dry on the release announcement for the KX2, but it has created quite a stir. A lot of people are very curious about this rig, including me. As a KX3 owner already, I'm not chomping at the bit to get a KX2, but I am trying to discern just what the meaningful differences are. >>> >>> I think it is intriguing that Elecraft chose to make it's new rig a "downsized" version of the KX3. I can certainly see how this has stimulated a lot of interest. What I'm trying to figure out is whether or not it does anything better than the KX3, or is it just a smaller, and less capable, radio. At this point, I'm inclined to think the latter. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but that seems to be a better generalization. Nonetheless, what you give up with a KX2 may not outweigh what you might gain with a KX3--it depends solely on the user. >>> >>> The KX2 is definitely smaller (about half the volume) and lighter, although the footprint is not quite that much different. The price is lighter too! As a true portable radio, I see this as a nice advantage. SOTA ops probably will really appreciate this! You still have a very competent radio with just about all the features a portable op would want or need. >>> >>> The things you give up are not insignificant. There is a slight power differential, which may, or may not, be a concern. Possibly more of a concern might be not having roofing filters. I've become a huge fan of having those. Also, losing access to 160 and 6 meters may be problematic for some. I'm not all that concerned about no AM or FM, but others might be. With the emphasis on being a "hand held" radio, some may lament no VHF/UHF as well. >>> >>> I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU. The one for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to see less capability. Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are great, and I guess I just get nervous about less. The ATU's in the KX1 and K1 were only moderately useful, and it was their reduced size that caused that. Elecraft can obviously put out superb ATU's, but they need some room to do that. >>> >>> I was disappointed to see that the PX3 would not mate with the KX2. In their "FAQ's", Elecraft sort of deflects that by simply suggesting that capability is more appropriate for a larger rig, like the KX3 or K3, but I'm still disappointed. Personally, I think it would have been a big plus if they could have made it work, but again, just not enough room in that smaller package--or I assume that was the problem. Or, maybe it was to just hold the cost down??? >>> >>> I know a lot of K3 owners, who also have KX3's, and have found the KX3 to be a very effective substitute/back-up in their main station. Lately I've been tinkering with that same process, and it works pretty darned well. However, I'm not sure the KX2 is nearly as good a substitute, or back-up. The lesser capabilities described above would explain much of that. I still much prefer the K3, but I don't give up all that much with the KX3. It's a great reason to own both! >>> >>> So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less? Is the KX2 a stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2? In any event, there are sufficient differences to require some analysis if you are trying to pick one over the other. If I didn't already have a KX3 I could probably get a headache trying to make that decision. Either way you go you are probably a "winner!" The "easy" way may be to just conclude you want both, and apparently some have already made that decision! I'm not sure that would be my decision, but hey, I haven't had my hands on a KX2 yet either! Hi. >>> >>> I'll be very interested in seeing some real in-depth reviews of the KX2. >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Dave W7AQK >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to matt.vk2rq at gmail.com > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From n6kr at elecraft.com Tue May 24 11:42:55 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 08:42:55 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 haiku (attempt 1) In-Reply-To: References: <9c8d6ea7-107d-42a3-698d-adae7bf6d9df@coho.net>, <8C799CC5-D87A-4FB5-963E-D2514C61E5CC@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <6ACDFB36-62BD-4428-BFE7-C28E57761848@elecraft.com> Future amateurs Lurking on Elecraft list Read haikus, groan, leave :) Wayne On May 24, 2016, at 7:04 AM, John Gibson wrote: > I must hike today. > > My KX2 goes with me. > > My link to the world. > > 73, > John Gibson, no8v From gallsup at whoi.edu Tue May 24 12:04:45 2016 From: gallsup at whoi.edu (geoff allsup) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 12:04:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 memories question Message-ID: Out of curiosity, can I use the use an XML frequency map I created for my KX3 to load the same into a KX2 with the Frequency Memory Editor? geoff - W1OH -- ******************************************************************* Geoff Allsup, W1OH gallsup at whoi.edu or w1oh at whoi.edu Senior Engineer Upper Ocean Processes Group Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Woods Hole, MA, USA ******************************************************************* From kk5f at earthlink.net Tue May 24 12:05:01 2016 From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 12:05:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Elecraft] KXAT2 vs. Other Elecraft Transceiver ATUs Message-ID: <20864548.1464105902124.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Bill wrote: > As to the ATU in the KX2, 7L/7C is the same range as the KX1, T1 and > I think the K2 ATU. That is wildly inaccurate, especially for the KXAT1 ATU!!! The reactance configuration for all Elecraft ATUs is an L-network of series inductance, with a capacitance connected to common before (radio side) or after (antenna side) the inductance (but not both) by a relay. It is a classic simple low pass filter. The total number of possible configurations in such a filter of L inductors and C capacitors, with the capacitor bank capable of being connected to either side of the series inductor, is: Different Configurations = ( 2^L x 2^C x 2 ) Four (4) "don't care" (non-unique) configurations should be eliminated from total: 1. Capacitor bank connected to inductor input, but all capacitors open. 2. Capacitor bank connected to inductor output, but all capacitors open. 3. Capacitor bank connected to inductor input, but all inductors shorted. 4. Capacitor bank connected to inductor output, but all inductors shorted. USEFUL Different Configurations = ( 2^L x 2^C x 2 ) - 4 For Elecraft transceiver ATUs before the new KXAT2, here are summaries (N is the network variable...capacitor connected to input OR output of inductor): KAT1 (4L/5C/N) Configs=1020, L=0 to 4.9 uH (16 steps), C=0 to 300 pF (32 steps) KAT2 (8L/8C/N) Configs=131068, L=0 to 20.7 uH (256 steps), C=0 to 2420 pF (256 steps) KAT3 (8L/8C/N) Configs=131068, L=0 to 17.4 uH (256 steps), C=0 to 2600 pF (256 steps) KXAT1 (3L/3C/N) Configs=124, L=0 to 4.5 uH (8 steps), C=0 to 140 pF (8 steps) KXAT3 (8L/8C/N) Configs=131068, L=0 to 15.9 uH (256 steps), C=0 to 2680 pF (256 steps) T1 (7L/7C/N) Configs=32764, L=0 to 7.5 uH (128 steps), C=0 to 1300 pF (128 steps) Many already have the new KXAT2, but no circuit value information has yet been provided to those of the great unwashed masses like myself. All I've seen is its description as 7L/7C/N, just like the T1. If that is correct: KXAT2 (7L/7C/N) Configs=32764, L=0 to ?.?? uH (128 steps), C=0 to ???? pF (128 steps) The KXAT1 generates 124 unique matching network configurations. The KAT1 generates 1020 unique matching network configurations. The KXAT2, T1 generate 32724 unique matching network configurations. The KAT2, KAT3, KXAT3 generate 131068 unique matching network configurations. Conclusion: The KXAT2 is comparable ONLY to the T1. 73, Mike / KK5F From w0mbt at w0mbt.net Tue May 24 12:07:18 2016 From: w0mbt at w0mbt.net (Bruce Nourish) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 16:07:18 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Power Connector Message-ID: Hi folks, >From the pictures it looks like the KX2 power connector is different from that of the KX1/3, but in Eric's podcast interview he seemed to suggest it was the same. Could someone who knows for sure clarify? Bruce From n6kr at elecraft.com Tue May 24 12:09:49 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 09:09:49 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 memories question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5607C796-0723-4722-8295-B8CD0F68B726@elecraft.com> Yes. We are working on one issue. The KX2 doesn't handle AM and FM modes, so if you load such memories, we have to convert them to SSB to avoid error messages. Wayne N6KR On May 24, 2016, at 9:04 AM, geoff allsup wrote: > Out of curiosity, can I use the use an XML frequency map I created for my KX3 to load the same into a KX2 with the Frequency Memory Editor? > > geoff - W1OH > > -- > ******************************************************************* > Geoff Allsup, W1OH gallsup at whoi.edu or w1oh at whoi.edu > Senior Engineer Upper Ocean Processes Group > Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Woods Hole, MA, USA > ******************************************************************* > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From mzilmer at roadrunner.com Tue May 24 12:18:16 2016 From: mzilmer at roadrunner.com (Matt Zilmer) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 09:18:16 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Power Connector In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5ff03d48-fc68-fac3-332b-6fea10c27553@roadrunner.com> The KX2 DC power connector is exactly the same as KX3, PX3, etc.: 2.1mm ID, 5.5mm OD. 73, matt W6NIA On 5/24/2016 9:07 AM, Bruce Nourish wrote: > Hi folks, > > From the pictures it looks like the KX2 power connector is different from > that of the KX1/3, but in Eric's podcast interview he seemed to suggest it > was the same. Could someone who knows for sure clarify? > > Bruce > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to mzilmer at roadrunner.com -- Always store beer in a dark place. - R. Heinlein From nq5t at tx.rr.com Tue May 24 12:20:38 2016 From: nq5t at tx.rr.com (GRANT YOUNGMAN) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 11:20:38 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Small QRP Xcvr Use Question In-Reply-To: <20160524153303.0A9AD149BFE0@mailman.qth.net> References: <20160524.081626.18803.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> <20160524153303.0A9AD149BFE0@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: Seems to me, like radios, you do antennas suitable to the environment. There are times I pack and put up my Buddipole dipole with long arms on the 19? mast; and times I carry and put up a tall BP vertical using arms and a long rigid shock cord whip. A standard Buddistick is light and easy to carry, and I have lightweight end fed antennas as well. Sometimes just a couple pieces of wire. They all work as well as what they are can work. It?s good to have a choice to fit the objective, mood, place, the carry, the weight, etc. I use the internal tuner for all of them anyway. I may eventually even try those little MFJ whips that Wayne seems to like (once I find a round to-it and get motivated to add a KX2) :-) Grant NQ5T K3 #2091, KX3 #8342 (Mostly portable QRP all the time ? thanks to pesky CC&Rs) > On May 24, 2016, at 10:31 AM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote: > > i would think better is to have an kx3 or kx2 internal tuner ...esp one that matches 10-1. > That eliminates weight, a box, cables and fussing... > > my kx3 did Verry well on the Danube River bank with just 18 foot wire about 8 feet up in a bush... no trees....ssb ( on a bike trip).... > > yes a 10ft counterpoise > > > bill ny9h/3 > > > > > At 10:07 AM 5/24/2016, Sandy wrote: >> If you don't mind carrying a "load" (If you are not hiking/backpacking) I have found the Buddipole/tripod is a very excellent antenna from 40-17 meters in the > > ______________________________________________________________ From w0mbt at w0mbt.net Tue May 24 12:21:04 2016 From: w0mbt at w0mbt.net (Bruce Nourish) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 16:21:04 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Power Connector In-Reply-To: <5ff03d48-fc68-fac3-332b-6fea10c27553@roadrunner.com> References: <5ff03d48-fc68-fac3-332b-6fea10c27553@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: Perfect, thanks. These packs might make nice external power for the KX3. ...also might make great internal power for the KX3 ;-) On Tue, May 24, 2016, 09:19 Matt Zilmer wrote: > The KX2 DC power connector is exactly the same as KX3, PX3, etc.: 2.1mm > ID, 5.5mm OD. > > 73, > > matt W6NIA > > > > On 5/24/2016 9:07 AM, Bruce Nourish wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > From the pictures it looks like the KX2 power connector is different > from > > that of the KX1/3, but in Eric's podcast interview he seemed to suggest > it > > was the same. Could someone who knows for sure clarify? > > > > Bruce > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to mzilmer at roadrunner.com > > -- > Always store beer in a dark place. - R. Heinlein > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w0mbt at w0mbt.net > From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue May 24 12:29:58 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 09:29:58 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] WTB K3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57448186.9010009@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Tue,5/24/2016 5:51 AM, JJ wrote: > But there are > times I would like to have 100 watts to rag chew in SSB as well. Have you considered adding a KXPA100 to your KX3? It's perfectly integrated, no taking it off line or putting it on line -- just turn the power knob. 73, Jim K9YC From n6kr at elecraft.com Tue May 24 12:33:37 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 09:33:37 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KXAT2 vs. Other Elecraft Transceiver ATUs In-Reply-To: <20864548.1464105902124.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <20864548.1464105902124.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <52CFE5FE-4797-40A4-BA84-B86D33038A34@elecraft.com> Mike, Your analysis of combinations is correct. But the KXAT2 should be compared to the KXAT3 (etc.), not the T1. Here's why: The KXAT2 only has to cover 80-10 meters. The KXAT3 has one additional L and C, but it has to cover 160-6 meters. Over the range of 80-10 meters, for virtually any field antenna, the KXAT2 will perform just as well. The T1 also has to cover 160-6 meters. To do this with 7L/7C, the L and C values in its array are spread out with a ratio of slightly greater then 2:1 from one to the next. This allows the array to cover a wider range of load impedances, but with an average final SWR more like 1.5:1 than 1:1. The KXAT2, like the KXAT3, uses a ratio of very close to to 2:1, so average final SWR is very close to 1:1. 73, Wayne N6KR On May 24, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Mike Morrow wrote: > Bill wrote: > >> As to the ATU in the KX2, 7L/7C is the same range as the KX1, T1 and >> I think the K2 ATU. > > That is wildly inaccurate, especially for the KXAT1 ATU!!! > > The reactance configuration for all Elecraft ATUs is an L-network of series inductance, with a capacitance connected to common before (radio side) or after (antenna side) the inductance (but not both) by a relay. It is a classic simple low pass filter. > > The total number of possible configurations in such a filter of L inductors and C capacitors, with the capacitor bank capable of being connected to either side of the series inductor, is: > > Different Configurations = ( 2^L x 2^C x 2 ) > > Four (4) "don't care" (non-unique) configurations should be eliminated from total: > 1. Capacitor bank connected to inductor input, but all capacitors open. > 2. Capacitor bank connected to inductor output, but all capacitors open. > 3. Capacitor bank connected to inductor input, but all inductors shorted. > 4. Capacitor bank connected to inductor output, but all inductors shorted. > > USEFUL Different Configurations = ( 2^L x 2^C x 2 ) - 4 > > For Elecraft transceiver ATUs before the new KXAT2, here are summaries (N is the network variable...capacitor connected to input OR output of inductor): > > KAT1 (4L/5C/N) Configs=1020, L=0 to 4.9 uH (16 steps), C=0 to 300 pF (32 steps) > > KAT2 (8L/8C/N) Configs=131068, L=0 to 20.7 uH (256 steps), C=0 to 2420 pF (256 steps) > > KAT3 (8L/8C/N) Configs=131068, L=0 to 17.4 uH (256 steps), C=0 to 2600 pF (256 steps) > > KXAT1 (3L/3C/N) Configs=124, L=0 to 4.5 uH (8 steps), C=0 to 140 pF (8 steps) > > KXAT3 (8L/8C/N) Configs=131068, L=0 to 15.9 uH (256 steps), C=0 to 2680 pF (256 steps) > > T1 (7L/7C/N) Configs=32764, L=0 to 7.5 uH (128 steps), C=0 to 1300 pF (128 steps) > > Many already have the new KXAT2, but no circuit value information has yet been provided to those of the great unwashed masses like myself. All I've seen is its description as 7L/7C/N, just like the T1. If that is correct: > > KXAT2 (7L/7C/N) Configs=32764, L=0 to ?.?? uH (128 steps), C=0 to ???? pF (128 steps) > > The KXAT1 generates 124 unique matching network configurations. > The KAT1 generates 1020 unique matching network configurations. > The KXAT2, T1 generate 32724 unique matching network configurations. > The KAT2, KAT3, KXAT3 generate 131068 unique matching network configurations. > > Conclusion: The KXAT2 is comparable ONLY to the T1. > > 73, > Mike / KK5F > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue May 24 12:37:11 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 09:37:11 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2, KX3, and supply voltage vs. power output In-Reply-To: <5B31EA5F-7F72-421A-9048-FBE15420D078@elecraft.com> References: <303A8ECD-C1E1-4254-BD64-7EEEB7FD0F41@elecraft.com> <9997978A-2B6A-43CE-B8B4-B1B57D396B41@wunderwood.org> <5B31EA5F-7F72-421A-9048-FBE15420D078@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <57448337.2020006@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Tue,5/24/2016 8:23 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > In CW mode, there's no issue with doing this, since it's just an unmodulated carrier. Not true, Wayne. CW is 100% modulation of a carrier by a square wave, the square wave includes harmonics, which produce IMD. THAT'S what clicks are. You should know that -- your spectacularly good waveshaping of the keying waveform in your radios is a major reason why they're so clean on CW! But they DO get wider when supply voltage drops, and as power output increases, BECAUSE IMD increases. > In voice and data modes, we strongly recommend using higher voltages at full power output. This will result in much better suppression of IMD products (unwanted higher-order sidebands). Yes. 73, Jim K9YC From mike at mdodd.com Tue May 24 12:39:24 2016 From: mike at mdodd.com (Mike Dodd) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 12:39:24 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] WTB K3 In-Reply-To: <57448186.9010009@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <57448186.9010009@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <574483BC.70805@mdodd.com> On 5/24/2016 12:29 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > On Tue,5/24/2016 5:51 AM, JJ wrote: >> But there are >> times I would like to have 100 watts to rag chew in SSB as well. > > Have you considered adding a KXPA100 to your KX3? It's perfectly > integrated, no taking it off line or putting it on line -- just turn the > power knob. That's exactly what I did. The KX3 power display automatically displays 0-50-100 watts vs. -0-5-10 watts. The KX3's ATU is bypassed, and the KXPA100's ATU does the tuning when you tap the KX3's AATU button. The KXP100 is tightly integrated with the KX3, and they are a joy to use together. -- 73, Mike N4CF Louisa County, VA USA Elecraft K3s/100 Carolina Windom up 45' http://n4cf.mdodd.com From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Tue May 24 12:46:38 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 08:46:38 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] Narrow Digital Modes ?? Message-ID: <201605241646.u4OGkdwT030746@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> I reviewed the KX2 FAQ before replying and actually one can connect an external computer to the KX2 and audio can be connected via headphone and ext mic connectors and PTT via the computer connection, so I would guess that freq stability might be the reason. One cannot connect to external SDR programs as IQ baseband access is not provided like the KX3 (BTW that is not provided in the K3, ether but WSJT10 and probably JT65HF work off ordinary speaker audio into a soundcard). I can run either WSJT10 using my K3 LINE OUT or MAP65 using a LP-Pan (SDR) on the first IF. LP-Pan provides IQ baseband audio for computer based SDR programs. Someone needs to run a test of freq.stability on the KX2 running about 3w output in CW, holding key-down for 50-seconds followed by Rx for 70-seconds to simulate JT65 heating and thus frequency stress. IF 28-MHz holds under 20-Hz drift over at least ten minutes than it is compatible for JT65; if not then that may be the issue. Let me say my KX3's features suit my use(s) of the radio better. I like having 6m & 2M internal to the radio. Recently had opportunity to use the KX3-2M as base radio for my weekly 2m SSB Net and its receiving ability with 214-foot of coax cable from my four yagi eme array worked surprisingly well (normally I use tower mounted preamps). 73, Ed - KL7UW Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 08:57:27 -0400 From: Dan - VA3MA To: Elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] Narrow Digital Modes ?? Message-ID: <36339378-65DB-4DE0-A268-E2F52F442EA3 at me.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Could Elecraft explain why the KX2 design doesn't allow operating say JT65 out of the box? What prohibits manufacturing the rig to do the narrow digital modes? Would be helpful to know Thanks Dan VA3MA 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From n6kr at elecraft.com Tue May 24 12:47:47 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 09:47:47 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2, KX3, and supply voltage vs. power output In-Reply-To: <57448337.2020006@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <303A8ECD-C1E1-4254-BD64-7EEEB7FD0F41@elecraft.com> <9997978A-2B6A-43CE-B8B4-B1B57D396B41@wunderwood.org> <5B31EA5F-7F72-421A-9048-FBE15420D078@elecraft.com> <57448337.2020006@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <28A88378-FD92-4ADB-AC88-E2F910123AF1@elecraft.com> On May 24, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > On Tue,5/24/2016 8:23 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> In CW mode, there's no issue with doing this, since it's just an unmodulated carrier. > > Not true, Wayne. CW is 100% modulation of a carrier by a square wave, the square wave includes harmonics, which produce IMD. THAT'S what clicks are. You should know that -- your spectacularly good waveshaping of the keying waveform in your radios is a major reason why they're so clean on CW! But they DO get wider when supply voltage drops, and as power output increases, BECAUSE IMD increases. Hi Jim :) As usually, you're theoretically correct. However, the KX2 and KX3 have such clean keying envelope shaping that when they're running 10 watts at 10 volts they're still going to be cleaner than everything else on the air (except a K3/K3S). Wayne From n6kr at elecraft.com Tue May 24 12:50:33 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 09:50:33 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Clarification on KX2/KX3 speech processing References: Message-ID: <547103A5-8FBF-4179-9899-80D42028ACB9@elecraft.com> From our DSP engineer: > We use envelope clipping (at IQ baseband) on SSB, and split-band AF on AM and FM in the KX3. The KX2, since it is SSB-only, uses baseband IQ clipping. 73, Wayne N6KR From n6kr at elecraft.com Tue May 24 12:54:43 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 09:54:43 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Power Connector In-Reply-To: <5ff03d48-fc68-fac3-332b-6fea10c27553@roadrunner.com> References: <5ff03d48-fc68-fac3-332b-6fea10c27553@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <2CE8F57E-24D4-43E8-BE34-A20E99D68994@elecraft.com> The reason it looks different is that the jack itself is now mounted flush with the panel, in a rectangular hole. On all previous rigs, we used a round hole and recessed the jack. Wayne On May 24, 2016, at 9:18 AM, Matt Zilmer wrote: > The KX2 DC power connector is exactly the same as KX3, PX3, etc.: 2.1mm ID, 5.5mm OD. > > 73, > > matt W6NIA > > > > On 5/24/2016 9:07 AM, Bruce Nourish wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> From the pictures it looks like the KX2 power connector is different from >> that of the KX1/3, but in Eric's podcast interview he seemed to suggest it >> was the same. Could someone who knows for sure clarify? >> >> Bruce >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to mzilmer at roadrunner.com > > -- > Always store beer in a dark place. - R. Heinlein > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From john.meade at freqelec.com Tue May 24 13:00:18 2016 From: john.meade at freqelec.com (John Meade W2XS) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 10:00:18 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 haiku (attempt 1) - No X In-Reply-To: <9c8d6ea7-107d-42a3-698d-adae7bf6d9df@coho.net> References: <9c8d6ea7-107d-42a3-698d-adae7bf6d9df@coho.net> Message-ID: <1464109218333-7617915.post@n2.nabble.com> I am in the park In front of me still: K2 No wires out the sides W2XS -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX2-haiku-attempt-1-tp7617868p7617915.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From gallsup at whoi.edu Tue May 24 13:02:43 2016 From: gallsup at whoi.edu (geoff allsup) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 13:02:43 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 memories question In-Reply-To: <5607C796-0723-4722-8295-B8CD0F68B726@elecraft.com> References: <5607C796-0723-4722-8295-B8CD0F68B726@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <4bb0aebf-5494-d261-5d1d-ba2acea30fbb@whoi.edu> Thanks - figured it would probably work. And I don't have any FM or AM modes defined, so probably all set to go. geoff - W1OH On 5/24/16 12:09, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Yes. We are working on one issue. The KX2 doesn't handle AM and FM modes, so if you load such memories, we have to convert them to SSB to avoid error messages. > > Wayne > N6KR > > > On May 24, 2016, at 9:04 AM, geoff allsup wrote: > >> Out of curiosity, can I use the use an XML frequency map I created for my KX3 to load the same into a KX2 with the Frequency Memory Editor? >> >> geoff - W1OH >> >> -- >> ******************************************************************* >> Geoff Allsup, W1OH gallsup at whoi.edu or w1oh at whoi.edu >> Senior Engineer Upper Ocean Processes Group >> Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Woods Hole, MA, USA >> ******************************************************************* >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com -- ******************************************************************* Geoff Allsup, W1OH gallsup at whoi.edu or w1oh at whoi.edu Senior Engineer Upper Ocean Processes Group Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Woods Hole, MA, USA ******************************************************************* From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Tue May 24 13:11:23 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 09:11:23 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] The KX2 Message-ID: <201605241711.u4OHBOaZ031373@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> One type of radio that Elecraft has avoided making to date: multi-band, multi-mode VHF/UHF, cross-band duplex radio. I recently bought a (not new) radio that, at its time, was considered one of the finest radios for this: Yaesu FT-736R. It is still held in considerable respect. I wanted a VHF/UHF multi-mode radio capable of satellite operation and had considered a cross-band duplex-capable FM mobile radio, but it would have limited me to FM. For approximately $200 more I obtained a "cherry" FT-736R with basic 2m/70cm capability. The radio is capable of expansion to two more bands via installation of internal modules for 6m, 220, and 1.2 GHz. Quite a remarkable model of adaptability for its time. I previously owned its successor, the FT-847, which was HF, 6m, 2m, 70cm. But on used market cost double what I spent on the FT-736R. Had Elecraft offered a VHF/UHF cross-band duplex multi-mode radio I would have considered it. Nothing on the current market equals the Elecraft radio quality (my opinion). I chose the K3/10 plus transverters for eme, but the K3 is not capable of duplex operation. If a KVX3sat were produced - I think the market is there. Current competitors: IC-9100 and TS2000X;Yaesu is out of the satellite radio market. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From kk7p4dsp at gmail.com Tue May 24 13:18:07 2016 From: kk7p4dsp at gmail.com (Lyle Johnson) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 10:18:07 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Narrow Digital Modes ?? In-Reply-To: <201605241646.u4OGkdwT030746@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201605241646.u4OGkdwT030746@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: I am uncertain why the OP claims the KX2 is not usable on JT65. One of the KX2 field testers operated the radio on that mode without issues and reported the same in an eham review of the KX2. In fact, we paid great attention to frequency stability in the KX2 design, applying lessons learned from the KX3. The KX2 Tx power is more limited than in the KX3. But JT65 is a weak signal mode :-) 73, Lyle KK7P On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Edward R Cole wrote: > I reviewed the KX2 FAQ before replying and actually one can connect an > external computer to the KX2 and audio can be connected via headphone and > ext mic connectors and PTT via the computer connection, so I would guess > that freq stability might be the reason. > > One cannot connect to external SDR programs as IQ baseband access is not > provided like the KX3 (BTW that is not provided in the K3, ether but WSJT10 > and probably JT65HF work off ordinary speaker audio into a soundcard). > > I can run either WSJT10 using my K3 LINE OUT or MAP65 using a LP-Pan (SDR) > on the first IF. LP-Pan provides IQ baseband audio for computer based SDR > programs. > > Someone needs to run a test of freq.stability on the KX2 running about 3w > output in CW, holding key-down for 50-seconds followed by Rx for 70-seconds > to simulate JT65 heating and thus frequency stress. IF 28-MHz holds under > 20-Hz drift over at least ten minutes than it is compatible for JT65; if > not then that may be the issue. > > Let me say my KX3's features suit my use(s) of the radio better. I like > having 6m & 2M internal to the radio. Recently had opportunity to use the > KX3-2M as base radio for my weekly 2m SSB Net and its receiving ability > with 214-foot of coax cable from my four yagi eme array worked surprisingly > well (normally I use tower mounted preamps). > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > > Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 08:57:27 -0400 > From: Dan - VA3MA > To: Elecraft > Subject: [Elecraft] Narrow Digital Modes ?? > Message-ID: <36339378-65DB-4DE0-A268-E2F52F442EA3 at me.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Could Elecraft explain why the KX2 design doesn't allow operating say JT65 > out of the box? > What prohibits manufacturing the rig to do the narrow digital modes? > Would be helpful to know > Thanks > Dan VA3MA > > > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > "Kits made by KL7UW" > Dubus Mag business: > dubususa at gmail.com > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kk7p4dsp at gmail.com > From eric_csuf at hotmail.com Tue May 24 13:27:31 2016 From: eric_csuf at hotmail.com (EricJ) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 10:27:31 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] The KX2 In-Reply-To: <2F7C6DC3-77D9-4535-9DCA-8FFAD49311C6@wunderwood.org> References: <2F7C6DC3-77D9-4535-9DCA-8FFAD49311C6@wunderwood.org> Message-ID: The Miata/F150 analogy was meant to be ludicrous. As are comparisons between the KX2 and KX3. Apples and oranges. There's a straight line between ZOIs Mountaineer, Norcal 40, KX1 and KX2. The K2 intentionally jumped off that line and the K3 said, "What line?". The K1 was barely ever on it. The KX1 moved solidly back on the line. The KX3 day-hikes on groomed trails, but prefers full hookups in the RV park at the end of the day. I got more, but I'm saving them for my book. Eric KE6US On 5/23/2016 8:34 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: > We have a 1991 Miata and a 2013 Mazdaspeed 3, plus a KX3, so I don?t think this is a useful analogy. The Miata and the KX3 are both original, clean, minimal designs that perform way above their weight. > > The KX2 is very obviously a stripped-down, lightweight KX3. > > Yes, the lineage goes back through the KX1, the NorCal 40A, and the Sierra. That lineage includes the KX3. > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > >> On May 23, 2016, at 7:53 PM, EricJ wrote: >> >> Is a Miata a stripped down version of an F150 pickup? >> >> Is an F150 a Miata with room to carry drywall? >> >> It's pretty obvious from the announcement the KX2 serves a different purpose than the KX3. It's not a smaller anything. It's a different rig for a different purpose. >> >> Looks to me its lineage is more KX1 and the preceding Trail Friendly Radios than anything else in the Elecraft line. >> >> http://www.elecraft.com/KX1/N6KR_KX1_History.html >> >> There's an evolution of rigs you should be comparing it to. >> >> Eric KE6US >> >> >> >> >> On 5/23/2016 7:25 PM, w7aqk wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> The ink is barely dry on the release announcement for the KX2, but it has created quite a stir. A lot of people are very curious about this rig, including me. As a KX3 owner already, I'm not chomping at the bit to get a KX2, but I am trying to discern just what the meaningful differences are. >>> >>> I think it is intriguing that Elecraft chose to make it's new rig a "downsized" version of the KX3. I can certainly see how this has stimulated a lot of interest. What I'm trying to figure out is whether or not it does anything better than the KX3, or is it just a smaller, and less capable, radio. At this point, I'm inclined to think the latter. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but that seems to be a better generalization. Nonetheless, what you give up with a KX2 may not outweigh what you might gain with a KX3--it depends solely on the user. >>> >>> The KX2 is definitely smaller (about half the volume) and lighter, although the footprint is not quite that much different. The price is lighter too! As a true portable radio, I see this as a nice advantage. SOTA ops probably will really appreciate this! You still have a very competent radio with just about all the features a portable op would want or need. >>> >>> The things you give up are not insignificant. There is a slight power differential, which may, or may not, be a concern. Possibly more of a concern might be not having roofing filters. I've become a huge fan of having those. Also, losing access to 160 and 6 meters may be problematic for some. I'm not all that concerned about no AM or FM, but others might be. With the emphasis on being a "hand held" radio, some may lament no VHF/UHF as well. >>> >>> I can only guess at the decreased capability of the optional ATU. The one for the KX2 may still be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to see less capability. Elecraft ATU's in the K3 and KX3 are great, and I guess I just get nervous about less. The ATU's in the KX1 and K1 were only moderately useful, and it was their reduced size that caused that. Elecraft can obviously put out superb ATU's, but they need some room to do that. >>> >>> I was disappointed to see that the PX3 would not mate with the KX2. In their "FAQ's", Elecraft sort of deflects that by simply suggesting that capability is more appropriate for a larger rig, like the KX3 or K3, but I'm still disappointed. Personally, I think it would have been a big plus if they could have made it work, but again, just not enough room in that smaller package--or I assume that was the problem. Or, maybe it was to just hold the cost down??? >>> >>> I know a lot of K3 owners, who also have KX3's, and have found the KX3 to be a very effective substitute/back-up in their main station. Lately I've been tinkering with that same process, and it works pretty darned well. However, I'm not sure the KX2 is nearly as good a substitute, or back-up. The lesser capabilities described above would explain much of that. I still much prefer the K3, but I don't give up all that much with the KX3. It's a great reason to own both! >>> >>> So, how do you describe the difference in ten words or less? Is the KX2 a stripped down version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2? In any event, there are sufficient differences to require some analysis if you are trying to pick one over the other. If I didn't already have a KX3 I could probably get a headache trying to make that decision. Either way you go you are probably a "winner!" The "easy" way may be to just conclude you want both, and apparently some have already made that decision! I'm not sure that would be my decision, but hey, I haven't had my hands on a KX2 yet either! Hi. >>> >>> I'll be very interested in seeing some real in-depth reviews of the KX2. >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Dave W7AQK >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to eric_csuf at hotmail.com >>> >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric_csuf at hotmail.com From doug at ellmore.net Tue May 24 13:44:05 2016 From: doug at ellmore.net (Doug Ellmore) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 13:44:05 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S/P3 and fldigi (Bob Novas) Message-ID: Bob, I think this is an artifact that I found also with using CWSkimmer using the IF out of the K3. I've been told that Elecraft has a FI commmand which provides the actual offset info depending on filter settings etc. If you change filters, bandwidth, filter shifts, modes, then the fi value will change. This was introduced by elecraft for Panadapter usage to allow developers to set the if offset correctly. It may be the info on your sync on mode did not get to your P3. For those that see CWSkimmer misaligned when you change bands or filter settings, this is because of the IF shifts. CWSkimmer does not use this information if you have it setup to use LP-PAN to a 196K soundcard. We don't see the problem with the KX3 I/Q out. BTW, Tom (VA2FSQ) resolves this issue in his Panadapter for Win4K3 and keeps his display aligned after you have done the first alignment. Hope this help. 73 Doug NA1DX ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 10:06:33 -0400 From: "Bob Novas" To: Subject: [Elecraft] K3S/P3 and fldigi Message-ID: <029d01d1b5c5$7aa937b0$6ffba710$@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I was going to complain about a strange behavior with the K3S and P3, and then I thought, I wonder if it has anything to do with fldigi. And it did. I don't understand this, but here's what happens. On 30M, and only on 30M, if I tune a signal in on CW or SSB and while watching the P3 display switch to Data mode, the P3 display jumps ~10kHz to the right. Everything on the P3 display is still on the display, it's just displaced right about 10KHz. However, the receiver bar and the signal stay put. So it often looks like you're tuned to a place where there's no signal, but in fact you're receiving a signal. And, that signal is displayed on the P3, but 10KHz to the right. If I turn fldigi off, this does not happen. I think I've described what I see. Anybody got any clues? Thanks, Bob - W3DK -- Doug Ellmore doug at ellmore.net Computer Scientists do precision guess work based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge. From ae5x at juno.com Tue May 24 13:43:15 2016 From: ae5x at juno.com (ae5x at juno.com) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 17:43:15 GMT Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 haiku (attempt 1) Message-ID: <20160524.124315.20781.0@webmail12.vgs.untd.com> UPS tracking Says it will be here Friday. The days pass slowly..... John AE5X http://ae5x.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Gundry MD This Simple Skin Fix May Surprise You http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5744930bd5d76130b4e48st01vuc From bbaines at mac.com Tue May 24 13:56:52 2016 From: bbaines at mac.com (Barry Baines) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 13:56:52 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) In-Reply-To: <201605241711.u4OHBOaZ031373@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201605241711.u4OHBOaZ031373@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: Ed: Please allow me to second your suggestion for a ?KXV3Sat?, though a KX2 derivative with FM + VHF + UHF and full duplex would certainly be another option that would be very intriguing. Whether such a design built into a K2/K3 footprint (with or without HF) is feasible from an engineering/cost of production perspective is something else? Given the rapid growth of the amateur satellite ?fleet,? there are plenty of opportunities to take advantage of such a product for satellite operations. AMSAT-NA?s AO-85 (FM) was placed in service in October, 2015. Between now and January there will be three more FM Cubesats built by AMSAT-NA that will be launched. In addition, AMSAT-NA is building a 30 KHz wide linear transponder satellite (Fox-1E). AMSAT-UK launched FunCube-1 (AO-73) which is also a linear transponder satellite. The Chinese placed a number of sats last fall in orbit on one launcher with a variety of capabilities, including liner transponder. These satellites, coupled with FO-29 and AO-7 are certainly candidates for operating with a low power, SSB/CW capable transceiver operating duplex. As you know, a number of satellite operators are working these satellites in the field using an Arrow or Elk Antenna with the FT-817x class transceivers which to my knowledge is the only backpack size QRP-capable HF-VHF-UHF multimode radio with built-in battery for portable operation in the field currently on the market. The FT-817x is not full duplex, so satellite operators use two of these radios to be able to hear their downlink when working the linear transponder satellites. While the FT-817x does work well for this type of operation, it does have a confusing set of options in the menu and in my opinion is more difficult to learn to operate than what Elecraft offers in their firmware architecture; having to use for FT-817s for full duplex adds to the complexity and cost of such operations. Interest in satellite operations is increasing and such a product would spur further growth. It seems to me that an Elecraft-designed radio capable of FM + UHF + VHF + full duplex in an integrated package with the footprint of a KX2 or the KX3 would be a winner; a HT-size transceiver (KX2) capable of working the linear satellites plus the FM sates would be a game changer for satellite operators. FWIW, Barry Baines, WD4ASW Westborough, MA (Currently in Deshler, OH after ?surviving? Hamvention) > On May 24, 2016, at 1:11 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: > > One type of radio that Elecraft has avoided making to date: > multi-band, multi-mode VHF/UHF, cross-band duplex radio. > > I recently bought a (not new) radio that, at its time, was considered one of the finest radios for this: > Yaesu FT-736R. It is still held in considerable respect. > > I wanted a VHF/UHF multi-mode radio capable of satellite operation and had considered a cross-band duplex-capable FM mobile radio, but it would have limited me to FM. For approximately $200 more I obtained a "cherry" FT-736R with basic 2m/70cm capability. > > The radio is capable of expansion to two more bands via installation of internal modules for 6m, 220, and 1.2 GHz. Quite a remarkable model of adaptability for its time. > > I previously owned its successor, the FT-847, which was HF, 6m, 2m, 70cm. But on used market cost double what I spent on the FT-736R. > > Had Elecraft offered a VHF/UHF cross-band duplex multi-mode radio I would have considered it. Nothing on the current market equals the Elecraft radio quality (my opinion). I chose the K3/10 plus transverters for eme, but the K3 is not capable of duplex operation. > > If a KVX3sat were produced - I think the market is there. Current competitors: IC-9100 and TS2000X;Yaesu is out of the satellite radio market. > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > "Kits made by KL7UW" > Dubus Mag business: > dubususa at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to bbaines at mac.com From Dubinse at aol.com Tue May 24 14:00:58 2016 From: Dubinse at aol.com (Dubinse at aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 14:00:58 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Dick Tracey radio Message-ID: <917a36.2de90dd2.4475f0d9@aol.com> on Mon, 23 May 2016 23:49:37 -0400 Don Wilhelm _donwilh at embarqmail.com_ (mailto:donwilh at embarqmail.com) writes: To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The KX2 "Is the Dick Tracy "wrist radio" next? How do the paddles connect to that one?" My response: Due to superior intellect and athletic prowess, many Elecrafters are able to control the pulsations of their radial artery. The KX1/3 wrist radio has a sensor imbedded in its back which uses these pulsations to encode CW or other digital modes. Some early developers and testers have been lost during QRX. 73 de W3UEC . From nr4c at widomaker.com Tue May 24 14:03:47 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 14:03:47 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Power Connector In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The end-view on page 5 of the manual is called out as the standard Elecraft 5.5 X2.1 mm coaxial power connector with positive center pin. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 24, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Bruce Nourish wrote: > > Hi folks, > >> From the pictures it looks like the KX2 power connector is different from > that of the KX1/3, but in Eric's podcast interview he seemed to suggest it > was the same. Could someone who knows for sure clarify? > > Bruce > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From ka9p at aol.com Tue May 24 14:11:36 2016 From: ka9p at aol.com (Scott Mcdonald) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 13:11:36 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] The KX2 In-Reply-To: <201605241711.u4OHBOaZ031373@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201605241711.u4OHBOaZ031373@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: I'd love to see Elecraft sell a set of plug and play VHF/UHF transverters and a k3-sized box to hold, say, 1 to 4 of the transverters, which would be a flexible and cost effective way to address VHF/UHF capability, much like the 736 optionally provided for 50 and 1296 MHz. A few higher orbit satellites could drive this market pretty well..... 73 Scott (PS - Wayne my QTH address is ok for the beta test unit?) Make something good happen! > On May 24, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: > > One type of radio that Elecraft has avoided making to date: > multi-band, multi-mode VHF/UHF, cross-band duplex radio. > > I recently bought a (not new) radio that, at its time, was considered one of the finest radios for this: > Yaesu FT-736R. It is still held in considerable respect. > > I wanted a VHF/UHF multi-mode radio capable of satellite operation and had considered a cross-band duplex-capable FM mobile radio, but it would have limited me to FM. For approximately $200 more I obtained a "cherry" FT-736R with basic 2m/70cm capability. > > The radio is capable of expansion to two more bands via installation of internal modules for 6m, 220, and 1.2 GHz. Quite a remarkable model of adaptability for its time. > > I previously owned its successor, the FT-847, which was HF, 6m, 2m, 70cm. But on used market cost double what I spent on the FT-736R. > > Had Elecraft offered a VHF/UHF cross-band duplex multi-mode radio I would have considered it. Nothing on the current market equals the Elecraft radio quality (my opinion). I chose the K3/10 plus transverters for eme, but the K3 is not capable of duplex operation. > > If a KVX3sat were produced - I think the market is there. Current competitors: IC-9100 and TS2000X;Yaesu is out of the satellite radio market. > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > "Kits made by KL7UW" > Dubus Mag business: > dubususa at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ka9p at aol.com From w7ox at socal.rr.com Tue May 24 14:17:40 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 11:17:40 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 haiku (attempt 1) - No X In-Reply-To: <1464109218333-7617915.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <9c8d6ea7-107d-42a3-698d-adae7bf6d9df@coho.net> <1464109218333-7617915.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: But that was a K2 haiku :-) Phil W7OX On 5/24/16 10:00 AM, John Meade W2XS wrote: > I am in the park > In front of me still: K2 > No wires out the sides > > W2XS From nf4l at comcast.net Tue May 24 14:51:52 2016 From: nf4l at comcast.net (Mike Reublin NF4L) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 14:51:52 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 haiku In-Reply-To: <59547c6f-0326-98f0-e7a2-19e9b6ee90eb@gmail.com> References: <9c8d6ea7-107d-42a3-698d-adae7bf6d9df@coho.net> <8C799CC5-D87A-4FB5-963E-D2514C61E5CC@elecraft.com> <59547c6f-0326-98f0-e7a2-19e9b6ee90eb@gmail.com> Message-ID: <69E2C661-7734-45DD-9C24-D574E5BDAA93@comcast.net> Non rhyming poetry Makes no sense So confused 73, Mike NF4L > On May 24, 2016, at 11:06 AM, Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO wrote: > > summer morning > K3 works all the DX > will KX2? > > 73, > Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO > Rehovot, Israel > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > > On 24 May 2016 17:04, John Gibson wrote: >> I must hike today. >> >> My KX2 goes with me. >> >> My link to the world. >> >> 73, >> John Gibson, no8v >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: Elecraft on behalf of Wayne Burdick >> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:36:13 AM >> To: kevinr at coho.net >> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 haiku (attempt 1) >> >> :) >> >> >> On May 23, 2016, at 9:23 PM, "kevinr at coho.net" wrote: >> >>> It is a small rig >>> >>> Full of well thought out features >>> >>> Many bands and modes >>> >>> >>> Kevin. KD5ONS >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to gibson at alma.edu >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k2vco.vic at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nf4l at comcast.net From lists at subich.com Tue May 24 14:52:57 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 14:52:57 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] The Whip Wedge: An anti-rotation device for a whip on a right-angle BNC adapter In-Reply-To: <3499B1E4-C738-490E-B007-5AD1DBD2F10F@elecraft.com> References: <3499B1E4-C738-490E-B007-5AD1DBD2F10F@elecraft.com> Message-ID: A far simpler design would be in fact a cylinder with inner diameter that is a friction fit for the whip itself having a semi-circular cut-out on the bottom side above the BNC connector. Slide the "wedge" down the antenna with the "notch" over the BNC connector and you have in essence created a detent for the whip . One could probably accomplish the same purpose on a one off basis by using a pair of interlocked wide tie-wraps - one around the BNC connector and the other around the whip. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/24/2016 10:16 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > If you use a whip with a right-angle BNC, it's free to rotate, and > can flop over. Mathematically speaking, this is most likely to happen > just as a breeze comes up and/or you were about to crack that Bouvet > Island pileup using 1 watt. > > The simplest home-made anti-rotation device for use with your KX3 or > KX2 is a piece of medium-soft rubber hose or tubing about 3/4" long. > Simply wedge this bit of tubing between the right side panel and the > whip's BNC connector. > > If the tubing is too long, it will put an unnecessary amount of force > on the BNC connectors. Adjust as required so that you have just > enough friction to prevent rotation. > > I proposed the name "Whip Wedge" in hopes that someone will now > commercialize it. The rest is left as an exercise for the reader :) > > Ideally the Wedge would have a more interesting and functional shape > than a simple cylinder. It might be a rectangular block with a > semicircular cutout matching the side of the BNC connector. (Molding > required.) > > 73, Wayne N6KR > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list Home: > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: > http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: > mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this > email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > lists at subich.com > From kk5f at earthlink.net Tue May 24 15:29:24 2016 From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 15:29:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Elecraft] KXAT2 vs. Other Elecraft Transceiver ATUs Message-ID: <29104738.1464118165331.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Thanks for your reply, Wayne. I should have noted at least one of the important points you make in my conclusion about KXAT2 vs. T1, since the reduced required frequency span is pointed out in other KX2 materials. I just did not want to get much more long-winded than I do naturally. Thanks for making the KXAT2 instructions available at: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740294%20KXAT2%20Installation%20Instructions%20Rev%20A.pdf I wrote earlier: > T1 (7L/7C/N) Configs=32764, L=0 to 7.5 uH (128 steps), C=0 to 1300 pF (128 steps) > KXAT2 (7L/7C/N) Configs=32764, L=0 to ?.?? uH (128 steps), C=0 to ???? pF (128 steps) There is no KXAT2 schematic nor component values in its user instructions. Those would show the hard evidence of KXAT2 design variance with the T1. Obviously the ATU's total and incremental inductance or capacitance values spread through 128 steps of each in the KXAT2 will be smaller than those for the T1. Will there be a system schematic similar to the KX3's available for download in the near future? The beauty is not only in the unit itself, but also in what lies within that small case. The size of the KX2 makes it just beg to be taken along on ALL wilderness day (or longer) hikes, without any exception. All I'm waiting for is the initial mad mad sales rush to dissipate. A fantastic achievement...thanks much! 73, Mike / KK5F -----Original Message----- >From: Wayne Burdick >Sent: May 24, 2016 11:33 AM >To: Mike Morrow >Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXAT2 vs. Other Elecraft Transceiver ATUs > > Mike, > > Your analysis of combinations is correct. But the KXAT2 should be compared to the > KXAT3 (etc.), not the T1. Here's why: > > The KXAT2 only has to cover 80-10 meters. The KXAT3 has one additional L and C, but > it has to cover 160-6 meters. Over the range of 80-10 meters, for virtually any field > antenna, the KXAT2 will perform just as well. > > The T1 also has to cover 160-6 meters. To do this with 7L/7C, the L and C values in > its array are spread out with a ratio of slightly greater then 2:1 from one to the > next. This allows the array to cover a wider range of load impedances, but with an > average final SWR more like 1.5:1 than 1:1. > > The KXAT2, like the KXAT3, uses a ratio of very close to to 2:1, so average final SWR > is very close to 1:1. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > On May 24, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Mike Morrow wrote: > >> Bill wrote: >> >>> As to the ATU in the KX2, 7L/7C is the same range as the KX1, T1 and >>> I think the K2 ATU. >> >> That is wildly inaccurate, especially for the KXAT1 ATU!!! >> >> The reactance configuration for all Elecraft ATUs is an L-network of series inductance, >> with a capacitance connected to common before (radio side) or after (antenna side) the >> inductance (but not both) by a relay. It is a classic simple low pass filter. >> >> The total number of possible configurations in such a filter of L inductors and C >> capacitors, with the capacitor bank capable of being connected to either side of >> the series inductor, is: >> >> Different Configurations = ( 2^L x 2^C x 2 ) >> >> Four (4) "don't care" (non-unique) configurations should be eliminated from total: >> 1. Capacitor bank connected to inductor input, but all capacitors open. >> 2. Capacitor bank connected to inductor output, but all capacitors open. >> 3. Capacitor bank connected to inductor input, but all inductors shorted. >> 4. Capacitor bank connected to inductor output, but all inductors shorted. >> >> USEFUL Different Configurations = ( 2^L x 2^C x 2 ) - 4 >> >> For Elecraft transceiver ATUs before the new KXAT2, here are summaries (N is the >> network variable...capacitor connected to input OR output of inductor): >> >> KAT1 (4L/5C/N) Configs=1020, L=0 to 4.9 uH (16 steps), C=0 to 300 pF (32 steps) >> >> KAT2 (8L/8C/N) Configs=131068, L=0 to 20.7 uH (256 steps), C=0 to 2420 pF (256 steps) >> >> KAT3 (8L/8C/N) Configs=131068, L=0 to 17.4 uH (256 steps), C=0 to 2600 pF (256 steps) >> >> KXAT1 (3L/3C/N) Configs=124, L=0 to 4.5 uH (8 steps), C=0 to 140 pF (8 steps) >> >> KXAT3 (8L/8C/N) Configs=131068, L=0 to 15.9 uH (256 steps), C=0 to 2680 pF (256 steps) >> >> T1 (7L/7C/N) Configs=32764, L=0 to 7.5 uH (128 steps), C=0 to 1300 pF (128 steps) >> >> Many already have the new KXAT2, but no circuit value information has yet been provided >> to those of the great unwashed masses like myself. All I've seen is its description as >> 7L/7C/N, just like the T1. If that is correct: >> >> KXAT2 (7L/7C/N) Configs=32764, L=0 to ?.?? uH (128 steps), C=0 to ???? pF (128 steps) >> >> The KXAT1 generates 124 unique matching network configurations. >> The KAT1 generates 1020 unique matching network configurations. >> The KXAT2, T1 generate 32724 unique matching network configurations. >> The KAT2, KAT3, KXAT3 generate 131068 unique matching network configurations. >> >> Conclusion: The KXAT2 is comparable ONLY to the T1. >> >> 73, >> Mike / KK5F From n6kr at elecraft.com Tue May 24 15:38:49 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 12:38:49 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Power Connector In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0AE7AA43-14AB-4C51-8869-5A8DDA789899@elecraft.com> Both KX2 and KX3 are supplied with a power cable that has a right-angle plug compatible with this jack. If you need additional making plugs for battery packs, etc., we suggest digikey.com p/n CP3-1000-ND, the same plug we use on our KXBT2. Wayne N6KR On May 24, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Nr4c wrote: > The end-view on page 5 of the manual is called out as the standard Elecraft 5.5 X2.1 mm coaxial power connector with positive center pin. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On May 24, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Bruce Nourish wrote: >> >> Hi folks, >> >>> From the pictures it looks like the KX2 power connector is different from >> that of the KX1/3, but in Eric's podcast interview he seemed to suggest it >> was the same. Could someone who knows for sure clarify? >> >> Bruce >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Tue May 24 15:56:41 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 12:56:41 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2, KX3, and supply voltage vs. power output In-Reply-To: <57448337.2020006@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <303A8ECD-C1E1-4254-BD64-7EEEB7FD0F41@elecraft.com> <9997978A-2B6A-43CE-B8B4-B1B57D396B41@wunderwood.org> <5B31EA5F-7F72-421A-9048-FBE15420D078@elecraft.com> <57448337.2020006@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: Wow two experts and they're both wrong. Fortunately CW is neither an unmodulated carrier nor is it 100% modulation by a square wave. Dots with no waveform shaping would be a square wave; dashes are never a square wave. Keyed CW is none of the above. On 5/24/2016 9:37 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > On Tue,5/24/2016 8:23 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> In CW mode, there's no issue with doing this, since it's just an unmodulated >> carrier. > > Not true, Wayne. CW is 100% modulation of a carrier by a square wave, the > square wave includes harmonics, which produce IMD. THAT'S what clicks are. You > should know that -- your spectacularly good waveshaping of the keying waveform > in your radios is a major reason why they're so clean on CW! But they DO get > wider when supply voltage drops, and as power output increases, BECAUSE IMD > increases. > >> In voice and data modes, we strongly recommend using higher voltages at full >> power output. This will result in much better suppression of IMD products >> (unwanted higher-order sidebands). > > Yes. > > 73, Jim K9YC From W2SE at qsl.net Tue May 24 16:12:06 2016 From: W2SE at qsl.net (Bruce W2SE) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 16:12:06 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD3 long screw... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5744B596.6020903@qsl.net> From w7ox at socal.rr.com Tue May 24 17:00:50 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 14:00:50 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KXAT2 vs. Other Elecraft Transceiver ATUs In-Reply-To: <20864548.1464105902124.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <20864548.1464105902124.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <6843a905-b419-901d-a998-f300ee2b3b98@socal.rr.com> Interesting analysis, Mike -- though relating the various *AT* acronyms to rigs is a bit mind bending :-) But another point, an important one, is that the KX2 has fewer band (no 160 and no 6) compared to some of the other rigs, so needs an ATU with less L and C range. So it's capabilities for the bands it covers is likely just as good as that of, say, the KX3. 73, Phil W7OX On 5/24/16 9:05 AM, Mike Morrow wrote: > Bill wrote: > >> As to the ATU in the KX2, 7L/7C is the same range as the KX1, T1 and >> I think the K2 ATU. > That is wildly inaccurate, especially for the KXAT1 ATU!!! > > The reactance configuration for all Elecraft ATUs is an L-network of series inductance, with a capacitance connected to common before (radio side) or after (antenna side) the inductance (but not both) by a relay. It is a classic simple low pass filter. > > The total number of possible configurations in such a filter of L inductors and C capacitors, with the capacitor bank capable of being connected to either side of the series inductor, is: > > Different Configurations = ( 2^L x 2^C x 2 ) > > Four (4) "don't care" (non-unique) configurations should be eliminated from total: > 1. Capacitor bank connected to inductor input, but all capacitors open. > 2. Capacitor bank connected to inductor output, but all capacitors open. > 3. Capacitor bank connected to inductor input, but all inductors shorted. > 4. Capacitor bank connected to inductor output, but all inductors shorted. > > USEFUL Different Configurations = ( 2^L x 2^C x 2 ) - 4 > > For Elecraft transceiver ATUs before the new KXAT2, here are summaries (N is the network variable...capacitor connected to input OR output of inductor): > > KAT1 (4L/5C/N) Configs=1020, L=0 to 4.9 uH (16 steps), C=0 to 300 pF (32 steps) > > KAT2 (8L/8C/N) Configs=131068, L=0 to 20.7 uH (256 steps), C=0 to 2420 pF (256 steps) > > KAT3 (8L/8C/N) Configs=131068, L=0 to 17.4 uH (256 steps), C=0 to 2600 pF (256 steps) > > KXAT1 (3L/3C/N) Configs=124, L=0 to 4.5 uH (8 steps), C=0 to 140 pF (8 steps) > > KXAT3 (8L/8C/N) Configs=131068, L=0 to 15.9 uH (256 steps), C=0 to 2680 pF (256 steps) > > T1 (7L/7C/N) Configs=32764, L=0 to 7.5 uH (128 steps), C=0 to 1300 pF (128 steps) > > Many already have the new KXAT2, but no circuit value information has yet been provided to those of the great unwashed masses like myself. All I've seen is its description as 7L/7C/N, just like the T1. If that is correct: > > KXAT2 (7L/7C/N) Configs=32764, L=0 to ?.?? uH (128 steps), C=0 to ???? pF (128 steps) > > The KXAT1 generates 124 unique matching network configurations. > The KAT1 generates 1020 unique matching network configurations. > The KXAT2, T1 generate 32724 unique matching network configurations. > The KAT2, KAT3, KXAT3 generate 131068 unique matching network configurations. > > Conclusion: The KXAT2 is comparable ONLY to the T1. > > 73, > Mike / KK5F From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Tue May 24 17:33:35 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 13:33:35 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) Message-ID: <201605242133.u4OLXaSo030724@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> I replied in depth to Barry but let me share that more briefly with the List: My vision for a "KXV3sat" would be based on a 50-MHz direct conversion SDR (if that is practical at this time). That would establish the IF for other bands which would be accomplished with transverters. HF would be unnecessary and just take up valuable real estate inside the radio. To keep a KX3 sized concept power would likely be held to 10w on 2m and 70cm. The radio would have IQ baseband access for running other sw on external computers. Similar I/F for Line in audio and computer PTT would enable use of sw other than the internal DSP. SDR means any number of modes could be accommodated. Stable LO would be required for NB digital modes and use with mw. Full cross-band duplex plus computer tuning of both VFO's to enable satellite auto-tune from external sw. BNC would suffice for ANT connections since power is low. Battery operation (option). An option would be a K3 sized transverter housing which modules for 222, 432, 902, and 1.2 GHz that could be added making a complete 50-1296 package, or just what you want. The KXV3sat would dock to this "console" for 'no external interconnect' wiring package. Probably modules would be 10w or maybe 25w. If enough room, 60-80w PA boards might be included for 6m/2m/70cm. Though there are ext. PA's available from the ham community. Keeping the power down in the KXV3sat would make it usable for portable operating and keep it light. Also 100w linears would likely add $300 per band to the total price. Design considerations would emcompass VHF/UHF SSB/CW/FM plus digital modes. Interconnection for ext amps, ext freq. source, ext computer I/F, Panadaptor. One could operate satellite in full-duplex and operating eme/ms/weak-signal modes. Perhaps optional Rx antenna ports could be incorporated as options. My belief there is a large market for such a radio. Satellite population is on the rise, so is small-scale eme. VHF/eme Dxpeditions are on the rise for which a small footprint is desirable for airline baggage. Who will build it? 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From k6dgw at foothill.net Tue May 24 17:47:18 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 14:47:18 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 haiku (attempt 1) In-Reply-To: <20160524.124315.20781.0@webmail12.vgs.untd.com> References: <20160524.124315.20781.0@webmail12.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <77b10398-0b9b-a51b-7374-56390ed4cea2@foothill.net> We count syllables But hiragana count "on" English not work well 73, Fred K6DGW MBH Sparks NV Washoe County DM09dn On 5/24/2016 10:43 AM, ae5x at juno.com wrote: > UPS tracking > Says it will be here Friday. > The days pass slowly..... > > > John AE5X > http://ae5x.blogspot.com/ From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue May 24 18:04:04 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 15:04:04 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2, KX3, and supply voltage vs. power output In-Reply-To: References: <303A8ECD-C1E1-4254-BD64-7EEEB7FD0F41@elecraft.com> <9997978A-2B6A-43CE-B8B4-B1B57D396B41@wunderwood.org> <5B31EA5F-7F72-421A-9048-FBE15420D078@elecraft.com> <57448337.2020006@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <5744CFD4.9050106@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Tue,5/24/2016 12:56 PM, Wes wrote: > Fortunately CW is neither an unmodulated carrier nor is it 100% > modulation by a square wave. Dots with no waveform shaping would be a > square wave; dashes are never a square wave. > > Keyed CW is none of the above. OK, 100% modulation of a carrier by a rectangular waveform having variable timing. :) It still comes down to the fact that turning on and off the carrier creates harmonics, the rise and fall time determine their relative strength and order. and the random timing spreads out the spectrum a bit. 73, Jim K9YC From vk1zzgary at gmail.com Tue May 24 18:08:17 2016 From: vk1zzgary at gmail.com (Gary) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 08:08:17 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 haiku (attempt 1) In-Reply-To: <77b10398-0b9b-a51b-7374-56390ed4cea2@foothill.net> References: <20160524.124315.20781.0@webmail12.vgs.untd.com> <77b10398-0b9b-a51b-7374-56390ed4cea2@foothill.net> Message-ID: <5744d0d8.9c12620a.2f3bf.1c17@mx.google.com> Ok, can we move onto Tanka now? ? Gary -----Original Message----- From: "Fred Jensen" Sent: ?25/?05/?2016 7:48 AM To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 haiku (attempt 1) We count syllables But hiragana count "on" English not work well 73, Fred K6DGW MBH Sparks NV Washoe County DM09dn On 5/24/2016 10:43 AM, ae5x at juno.com wrote: > UPS tracking > Says it will be here Friday. > The days pass slowly..... > > > John AE5X > http://ae5x.blogspot.com/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vk1zzgary at gmail.com From wa6nhc at gmail.com Tue May 24 18:12:30 2016 From: wa6nhc at gmail.com (Rick WA6NHC) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 15:12:30 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 haiku (757 syllable format) In-Reply-To: <77b10398-0b9b-a51b-7374-56390ed4cea2@foothill.net> References: <20160524.124315.20781.0@webmail12.vgs.untd.com> <77b10398-0b9b-a51b-7374-56390ed4cea2@foothill.net> Message-ID: <2f04d7d0-b9b3-8562-93a6-00d14da10f3f@gmail.com> Mountain top, it calls to me (7) I must go to it (5) KX2 makes world happy (7) (apologies to John Muir) Rick nhc From w7ox at socal.rr.com Tue May 24 18:16:38 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 15:16:38 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) In-Reply-To: <201605242133.u4OLXaSo030724@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201605242133.u4OLXaSo030724@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <7f140668-ae11-ec14-9ac4-91a72a13a2ce@socal.rr.com> Ed, re "Who will build it?": It seems the market must be large enough to justify the investment. I wonder if it really is? 73, Phil W7OX On 5/24/16 2:33 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: > I replied in depth to Barry but let me share > that more briefly with the List: > > My vision for a "KXV3sat" would be based on a > 50-MHz direct conversion SDR (if that is > practical at this time). > That would establish the IF for other bands > which would be accomplished with transverters. > HF would be unnecessary and just take up > valuable real estate inside the radio. > > To keep a KX3 sized concept power would likely > be held to 10w on 2m and 70cm. The radio would > have IQ baseband access for running other sw on > external computers. Similar I/F for Line in > audio and computer PTT would enable use of sw > other than the internal DSP. SDR means any > number of modes could be accommodated. Stable > LO would be required for NB digital modes and > use with mw. Full cross-band duplex plus > computer tuning of both VFO's to enable > satellite auto-tune from external sw. BNC would > suffice for ANT connections since power is low. > Battery operation (option). > > An option would be a K3 sized transverter > housing which modules for 222, 432, 902, and 1.2 > GHz that could be added making a complete > 50-1296 package, or just what you want. The > KXV3sat would dock to this "console" for 'no > external interconnect' wiring package. Probably > modules would be 10w or maybe 25w. If enough > room, 60-80w PA boards might be included for > 6m/2m/70cm. Though there are ext. PA's > available from the ham community. > > Keeping the power down in the KXV3sat would make > it usable for portable operating and keep it > light. Also 100w linears would likely add $300 > per band to the total price. > > Design considerations would emcompass VHF/UHF > SSB/CW/FM plus digital modes. Interconnection > for ext amps, ext freq. source, ext computer > I/F, Panadaptor. One could operate satellite in > full-duplex and operating eme/ms/weak-signal > modes. Perhaps optional Rx antenna ports could > be incorporated as options. > > My belief there is a large market for such a > radio. Satellite population is on the rise, so > is small-scale eme. VHF/eme Dxpeditions are on > the rise for which a small footprint is > desirable for airline baggage. > > Who will build it? > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > "Kits made by KL7UW" > Dubus Mag business: > dubususa at gmail.com From wb8yqj at yahoo.com Tue May 24 18:24:45 2016 From: wb8yqj at yahoo.com (Don Rasmussen) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 22:24:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] The Joy of QRP References: <80762627.104437.1464128685061.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <80762627.104437.1464128685061.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Or a burglar hiding in the attic - OM. ;-) Honeeeey - did you just hear a dit dit? ----Thanks to its small size and high level of integration, it's the radio you'd wish you had while hanging precariously from a cliff, sitting high in a tree, hiding from burglars in an attic, or any of numerous other likely operating scenarios. From kk5f at earthlink.net Tue May 24 19:18:12 2016 From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 19:18:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Elecraft] KXAT2 vs. Other Elecraft Transceiver ATUs -> Nomenclature Message-ID: <29027276.1464131892897.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Phil wrote: > Interesting analysis, Mike -- though relating the various *AT* acronyms > to rigs is a bit mind bending :-) Don't I know it, Phil! K1AT, K2AT, K3AT, KX1AT, KX2AT, KX3AT, etc. would be clearer and cleaner. Then, there's KAT100, KAT500, KXAT100...perhaps K2AT100, K3AT500, KX3AT100 would be more obvious, or just K2AT1, K3AT5, KX3AT1. This is only good-nature'd nitpicking...but after 17 years I still wonder why a simple consistent nomenclature system is not used. :-) 73, Mike / KK5F From va3ma at me.com Tue May 24 19:28:18 2016 From: va3ma at me.com (Dan - VA3MA) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 19:28:18 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Narrow Digital Modes ?? In-Reply-To: References: <201605241646.u4OGkdwT030746@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: Lyle This is very encouraging ! My friend Terry VE3EGA is awaiting delivery of his KX2 I think he will try using it onJT9 And let me know... HOPE SO On 2016-05-24, at 13:18, Lyle Johnson wrote: I am uncertain why the OP claims the KX2 is not usable on JT65. One of the KX2 field testers operated the radio on that mode without issues and reported the same in an eham review of the KX2. In fact, we paid great attention to frequency stability in the KX2 design, applying lessons learned from the KX3. The KX2 Tx power is more limited than in the KX3. But JT65 is a weak signal mode :-) 73, Lyle KK7P On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Edward R Cole wrote: > I reviewed the KX2 FAQ before replying and actually one can connect an > external computer to the KX2 and audio can be connected via headphone and > ext mic connectors and PTT via the computer connection, so I would guess > that freq stability might be the reason. > > One cannot connect to external SDR programs as IQ baseband access is not > provided like the KX3 (BTW that is not provided in the K3, ether but WSJT10 > and probably JT65HF work off ordinary speaker audio into a soundcard). > > I can run either WSJT10 using my K3 LINE OUT or MAP65 using a LP-Pan (SDR) > on the first IF. LP-Pan provides IQ baseband audio for computer based SDR > programs. > > Someone needs to run a test of freq.stability on the KX2 running about 3w > output in CW, holding key-down for 50-seconds followed by Rx for 70-seconds > to simulate JT65 heating and thus frequency stress. IF 28-MHz holds under > 20-Hz drift over at least ten minutes than it is compatible for JT65; if > not then that may be the issue. > > Let me say my KX3's features suit my use(s) of the radio better. I like > having 6m & 2M internal to the radio. Recently had opportunity to use the > KX3-2M as base radio for my weekly 2m SSB Net and its receiving ability > with 214-foot of coax cable from my four yagi eme array worked surprisingly > well (normally I use tower mounted preamps). > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > > Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 08:57:27 -0400 > From: Dan - VA3MA > To: Elecraft > Subject: [Elecraft] Narrow Digital Modes ?? > Message-ID: <36339378-65DB-4DE0-A268-E2F52F442EA3 at me.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Could Elecraft explain why the KX2 design doesn't allow operating say JT65 > out of the box? > What prohibits manufacturing the rig to do the narrow digital modes? > Would be helpful to know > Thanks > Dan VA3MA > > > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > "Kits made by KL7UW" > Dubus Mag business: > dubususa at gmail.com > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kk7p4dsp at gmail.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to va3ma at me.com From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Tue May 24 19:44:31 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 18:44:31 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) In-Reply-To: <201605242133.u4OLXaSo030724@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201605242133.u4OLXaSo030724@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: I like it! Especially the laptop style dock. On 5/24/2016 4:33 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: > I replied in depth to Barry but let me share that more briefly with > the List: > > My vision for a "KXV3sat" would be based on a 50-MHz direct conversion > SDR (if that is practical at this time). > That would establish the IF for other bands which would be > accomplished with transverters. HF would be unnecessary and just > take up valuable real estate inside the radio. > > To keep a KX3 sized concept power would likely be held to 10w on 2m > and 70cm. The radio would have IQ baseband access for running other > sw on external computers. Similar I/F for Line in audio and computer > PTT would enable use of sw other than the internal DSP. SDR means > any number of modes could be accommodated. Stable LO would be > required for NB digital modes and use with mw. Full cross-band duplex > plus computer tuning of both VFO's to enable satellite auto-tune from > external sw. BNC would suffice for ANT connections since power is > low. Battery operation (option). > > An option would be a K3 sized transverter housing which modules for > 222, 432, 902, and 1.2 GHz that could be added making a complete > 50-1296 package, or just what you want. The KXV3sat would dock to > this "console" for 'no external interconnect' wiring package. > Probably modules would be 10w or maybe 25w. If enough room, 60-80w PA > boards might be included for 6m/2m/70cm. Though there are ext. PA's > available from the ham community. > > Keeping the power down in the KXV3sat would make it usable for > portable operating and keep it light. Also 100w linears would likely > add $300 per band to the total price. > > Design considerations would emcompass VHF/UHF SSB/CW/FM plus digital > modes. Interconnection for ext amps, ext freq. source, ext computer > I/F, Panadaptor. One could operate satellite in full-duplex and > operating eme/ms/weak-signal modes. Perhaps optional Rx antenna ports > could be incorporated as options. > > My belief there is a large market for such a radio. Satellite > population is on the rise, so is small-scale eme. VHF/eme Dxpeditions > are on the rise for which a small footprint is desirable for airline > baggage. > > Who will build it? > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > "Kits made by KL7UW" > Dubus Mag business: > dubususa at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevin.stover at mediacombb.net > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Tue May 24 20:17:35 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 19:17:35 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) In-Reply-To: References: <201605242133.u4OLXaSo030724@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: I have changed my thinking on this. My suggestion would be a kick butt single band 6m rig in a K3s box. All the bells and whistles the K3s has now with the addition of cross band duplex and 100W any mode no time limit. The other bands would be installed as transverters in a computer style main board in the rig. Each transverter would be capable of 50W minimum output, have it's own SO239/N connector. The current K3EXTREF would be standard for 10MHz reference, as well as a 0.5 ppm TCXO along with RX I/Q out ala KX3. A V/UHF version of the P3 would have to be offered for the computer averse among us. Call it the K3s SAT+. On 5/24/2016 6:44 PM, Kevin Stover wrote: > I like it! > Especially the laptop style dock. > > On 5/24/2016 4:33 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: >> I replied in depth to Barry but let me share that more briefly with >> the List: >> >> My vision for a "KXV3sat" would be based on a 50-MHz direct >> conversion SDR (if that is practical at this time). >> That would establish the IF for other bands which would be >> accomplished with transverters. HF would be unnecessary and just >> take up valuable real estate inside the radio. >> >> To keep a KX3 sized concept power would likely be held to 10w on 2m >> and 70cm. The radio would have IQ baseband access for running other >> sw on external computers. Similar I/F for Line in audio and computer >> PTT would enable use of sw other than the internal DSP. SDR means >> any number of modes could be accommodated. Stable LO would be >> required for NB digital modes and use with mw. Full cross-band >> duplex plus computer tuning of both VFO's to enable satellite >> auto-tune from external sw. BNC would suffice for ANT connections >> since power is low. Battery operation (option). >> >> An option would be a K3 sized transverter housing which modules for >> 222, 432, 902, and 1.2 GHz that could be added making a complete >> 50-1296 package, or just what you want. The KXV3sat would dock to >> this "console" for 'no external interconnect' wiring package. >> Probably modules would be 10w or maybe 25w. If enough room, 60-80w >> PA boards might be included for 6m/2m/70cm. Though there are ext. >> PA's available from the ham community. >> >> Keeping the power down in the KXV3sat would make it usable for >> portable operating and keep it light. Also 100w linears would likely >> add $300 per band to the total price. >> >> Design considerations would emcompass VHF/UHF SSB/CW/FM plus digital >> modes. Interconnection for ext amps, ext freq. source, ext computer >> I/F, Panadaptor. One could operate satellite in full-duplex and >> operating eme/ms/weak-signal modes. Perhaps optional Rx antenna >> ports could be incorporated as options. >> >> My belief there is a large market for such a radio. Satellite >> population is on the rise, so is small-scale eme. VHF/eme >> Dxpeditions are on the rise for which a small footprint is desirable >> for airline baggage. >> >> Who will build it? >> >> 73, Ed - KL7UW >> http://www.kl7uw.com >> "Kits made by KL7UW" >> Dubus Mag business: >> dubususa at gmail.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to kevin.stover at mediacombb.net >> > > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From k2av.guy at gmail.com Tue May 24 20:23:55 2016 From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 20:23:55 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KXAT2 vs. Other Elecraft Transceiver ATUs -> Nomenclature In-Reply-To: <29027276.1464131892897.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <29027276.1464131892897.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: It's their business, lock, stock and barrel. They could call their models Grumpy, Snotty and Snort if they wanted to. Ain't no laws and nuthin in the bible about it, except maybe can't name something with a cuss word or something on the FCC banned word list. No IEEE standards. Just so long as the copyright on the names ain't owned by someone else. I'm just glad they came out with a technology leap beyond FT1000MP et al. I sure have enjoyed the improvements. And they pushed Yakencom so hard they all had to deal with it to compete so aficionados of other brands are finally reaping the benefits of Elecraft progress. I'm at least a bit of a curmudgeon, maybe more than a bit, and they treat me nice anyway. So why should I complain about what combination they pull out of the letter/number soup to name their babies? SXG4 R2.3 Q Twiddy 5 3 Slock 75 Names could be a LOT worse than KAT500. Me thinks some people will complain no matter what Elecraft does. They hate Elecraft so bad they can't stay off the Elecraft reflector. 73 Guy K2AV On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 7:18 PM, Mike Morrow wrote: > Phil wrote: > > > Interesting analysis, Mike -- though relating the various *AT* acronyms > > to rigs is a bit mind bending :-) > > Don't I know it, Phil! K1AT, K2AT, K3AT, KX1AT, KX2AT, KX3AT, etc. would > be clearer and cleaner. Then, there's KAT100, KAT500, KXAT100...perhaps > K2AT100, K3AT500, KX3AT100 would be more obvious, or just K2AT1, K3AT5, > KX3AT1. > > This is only good-nature'd nitpicking...but after 17 years I still wonder > why a simple consistent nomenclature system is not used. :-) > > 73, > Mike / KK5F > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2av.guy at gmail.com > From w7ox at socal.rr.com Tue May 24 20:31:45 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 17:31:45 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 haiku (attempt 1) In-Reply-To: <6ACDFB36-62BD-4428-BFE7-C28E57761848@elecraft.com> References: <9c8d6ea7-107d-42a3-698d-adae7bf6d9df@coho.net> <8C799CC5-D87A-4FB5-963E-D2514C61E5CC@elecraft.com> <6ACDFB36-62BD-4428-BFE7-C28E57761848@elecraft.com> Message-ID: Most apt one yet, Wayne! Phil W7OX On 5/24/16 8:42 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Future amateurs > Lurking on Elecraft list > Read haikus, groan, leave > > :) > > Wayne > > > On May 24, 2016, at 7:04 AM, John Gibson wrote: > >> I must hike today. >> >> My KX2 goes with me. >> >> My link to the world. >> >> 73, >> John Gibson, no8v From eric at elecraft.com Tue May 24 20:33:12 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 17:33:12 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KXAT2 vs. Other Elecraft Transceiver ATUs -> Nomenclature In-Reply-To: References: <29027276.1464131892897.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Guys - we are drifting way OT. Lets end this thread at this time. 73, Eric /elecraft.com/ From vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk Tue May 24 20:37:28 2016 From: vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk (Johnny Siu) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 00:37:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) In-Reply-To: References: <201605242133.u4OLXaSo030724@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <252489348.16851.1464136648430.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hello Elecrafters, I, of course, like the idea of SAT derivative. ?However, as mentioned in my previous post, both KX2 and K3S are product life cycle extension to fully utilize the spent R&D. ?These products are only evolution and not revolution. I have much doubt on the market size of so called satellite radio from Elecraft. ?With a look of the XV transverters especially the XV432, they are not cheap but there are issues such as heat issues under full specification output / power and frequency instabilities etc. Hence, I am looking for something revolutionary and not evolutionary from Elecraft. ?Both K3 and KX3 were revolutionary at the time of announcement. ?When I saw KX3 in 2011 Dayton, I was surprised and thought KX3 would kill all other brands QRP ham radios. 73 Johnny VR2XMC previously XV50, XV144 and XV432 ???? Kevin Stover ???? elecraft at mailman.qth.net ????? 2016?05?25? (??) 8:17 AM ??? Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) I have changed my thinking on this. My suggestion would be a kick butt single band 6m rig in a K3s box. All the bells and whistles the K3s has now with the addition of cross band duplex and 100W any mode no time limit. The other bands would be installed as transverters in a computer style main board in the rig. Each transverter would be capable of 50W minimum output, have it's own SO239/N connector. The current K3EXTREF would be standard for 10MHz reference, as well as a 0.5 ppm TCXO along with RX I/Q out ala KX3. A V/UHF version of the P3 would have to be offered for the computer averse among us. Call it the K3s SAT+. On 5/24/2016 6:44 PM, Kevin Stover wrote: > I like it! > Especially the laptop style dock. > > On 5/24/2016 4:33 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: >> I replied in depth to Barry but let me share that more briefly with >> the List: >> >> My vision for a "KXV3sat" would be based on a 50-MHz direct >> conversion SDR (if that is practical at this time). >> That would establish the IF for other bands which would be >> accomplished with transverters.? HF would be unnecessary and just >> take up valuable real estate inside the radio. >> >> To keep a KX3 sized concept power would likely be held to 10w on 2m >> and 70cm.? The radio would have IQ baseband access for running other >> sw on external computers.? Similar I/F for Line in audio and computer >> PTT would enable use of? sw other than the internal DSP.? SDR means >> any number of modes could be accommodated.? Stable LO would be >> required for NB digital modes and use with mw.? Full cross-band >> duplex plus computer tuning of both VFO's to enable satellite >> auto-tune from external sw.? BNC would suffice for ANT connections >> since power is low.? Battery operation (option). >> >> An option would be a K3 sized transverter housing which modules for >> 222, 432, 902, and 1.2 GHz that could be added making a complete >> 50-1296 package, or just what you want.? The KXV3sat would dock to >> this "console" for 'no external interconnect' wiring package.? >> Probably modules would be 10w or maybe 25w.? If enough room, 60-80w >> PA boards might be included for 6m/2m/70cm. Though there are ext. >> PA's available from the ham community. >> >> Keeping the power down in the KXV3sat would make it usable for >> portable operating and keep it light.? Also 100w linears would likely >> add $300 per band to the total price. >> >> Design considerations would emcompass VHF/UHF SSB/CW/FM plus digital >> modes.? Interconnection for ext amps, ext freq. source, ext computer >> I/F, Panadaptor.? One could operate satellite in full-duplex and >> operating eme/ms/weak-signal modes.? Perhaps optional Rx antenna >> ports could be incorporated as options. >> >> My belief there is a large market for such a radio.? Satellite >> population is on the rise, so is small-scale eme.? VHF/eme >> Dxpeditions are on the rise for which a small footprint is desirable >> for airline baggage. >> >> Who will build it? >> >> 73, Ed - KL7UW >> http://www.kl7uw.com >>? ? "Kits made by KL7UW" >> Dubus Mag business: >>? ? dubususa at gmail.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to kevin.stover at mediacombb.net >> > > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk From n7tb at comcast.net Tue May 24 20:37:50 2016 From: n7tb at comcast.net (Terry Brown) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 17:37:50 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Vs. KX3 Bottom Line Message-ID: <006f01d1b61d$ab446c70$01cd4550$@comcast.net> I have been reading all of the posts discussing the differences between the KX2 and KX3. All sorts of things have been discussed referring to the buying decision, what the KX2 does or doesn't do, etc. I am a KX3 owner and love that radio. As a KX3 owner, here is how I see the buying decision to add a KX2 radio. When the KX3 came out, we all marveled at its size and capabilities and couldn't wait to use it for SOTA and other hikes and biking portable. Now the KX2 is out much smaller with somewhat fewer capabilities but still a great rig. For me, the decision is a very simple one. Would I be in situations hiking where a radio smaller than the KX3 would be a benefit? Considering what else I might carry in a backpack to get to some operating location, how much difference will a radio not quite half the size and 11 oz. lighter make the overall load I am carrying? If I am and carrying 20 lbs. in a pack, the difference in weight is not much, and 20 lbs. isn't all that heavy. The heaver the pack, the less percentage wt. difference it makes. For all other applications, I would use the KX3. It's so easy to get caught up in the small size and great capabilities of the KX3. The "new toy" syndrome bites all of us, me included, however, it really boils down to 11oz. and not quite half the size for the capability tradeoffs between the two. Of course if a person does not own a KX3 already, the buying decision is different, but still involves size vs. capability tradeoffs and does the smaller size really buy a person that much benefit when toting it up a trail. If cost is a consideration for a first time buyer, then the KX2 is an amazing radio for its price and portability! 73's Terry, N7TB From w7ox at socal.rr.com Tue May 24 20:44:45 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 17:44:45 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KXAT2 vs. Other Elecraft Transceiver ATUs -> Nomenclature In-Reply-To: References: <29027276.1464131892897.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <642b77c0-7cf2-816c-435b-bf7201cbea81@socal.rr.com> I guess they'd have to avoid such as the names as those of the seven dwarfs -- and these days even "Grumpy, Snotty and Snort" might be problematic re copyrights and such. Phil W7OX On 5/24/16 5:23 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: > It's their business, lock, stock and barrel. They could call their models > Grumpy, Snotty and Snort if they wanted to. Ain't no laws and nuthin in the > bible about it, except maybe can't name something with a cuss word or > something on the FCC banned word list. No IEEE standards. Just so long as > the copyright on the names ain't owned by someone else. > > I'm just glad they came out with a technology leap beyond FT1000MP et al. I > sure have enjoyed the improvements. And they pushed Yakencom so hard they > all had to deal with it to compete so aficionados of other brands are > finally reaping the benefits of Elecraft progress. > > I'm at least a bit of a curmudgeon, maybe more than a bit, and they treat > me nice anyway. So why should I complain about what combination they pull > out of the letter/number soup to name their babies? > > SXG4 R2.3 Q > > Twiddy 5 > > 3 Slock 75 > > Names could be a LOT worse than KAT500. > > Me thinks some people will complain no matter what Elecraft does. They hate > Elecraft so bad they can't stay off the Elecraft reflector. > > 73 Guy K2AV > > On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 7:18 PM, Mike Morrow wrote: > >> Phil wrote: >> >>> Interesting analysis, Mike -- though relating the various *AT* acronyms >>> to rigs is a bit mind bending :-) >> Don't I know it, Phil! K1AT, K2AT, K3AT, KX1AT, KX2AT, KX3AT, etc. would >> be clearer and cleaner. Then, there's KAT100, KAT500, KXAT100...perhaps >> K2AT100, K3AT500, KX3AT100 would be more obvious, or just K2AT1, K3AT5, >> KX3AT1. >> >> This is only good-nature'd nitpicking...but after 17 years I still wonder >> why a simple consistent nomenclature system is not used. :-) >> >> 73, >> Mike / KK5F From vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk Tue May 24 20:46:58 2016 From: vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk (Johnny Siu) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 00:46:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Vs. KX3 Bottom Line In-Reply-To: <006f01d1b61d$ab446c70$01cd4550$@comcast.net> References: <006f01d1b61d$ab446c70$01cd4550$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <610078212.21461.1464137218041.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Terry, I feel it is very clever for elecraft to produce the KX2 so that they can sweep the remaining portion of the QRP market with minimal R & D. Hopefully, they earn more to fund the development of a K4 or KX4????? 73 Johnny VR2XMC ???? Terry Brown ???? elecraft at mailman.qth.net ????? 2016?05?25? (??) 8:37 AM ??? [Elecraft] KX2 Vs. KX3 Bottom Line I have been reading all of the posts discussing the differences between the KX2 and KX3.? All sorts of things have been discussed referring to the buying decision, what the KX2 does or doesn't do, etc.? I am a KX3 owner and love that radio.? As a KX3 owner, here is how I see the buying decision to add a KX2 radio.? When the KX3 came out, we all marveled at its size and capabilities and couldn't wait to use it for SOTA and other hikes and biking portable.? Now the KX2 is out much smaller with somewhat fewer capabilities but still a great rig.? For me, the decision is a very simple one.? Would I be in situations hiking where a radio smaller than the KX3 would be a benefit?? Considering what else I might carry in a backpack to get to some operating location, how much difference will a radio not quite half the size and 11 oz. lighter make the overall load I am carrying?? If I am and carrying 20 lbs. in a pack, the difference in weight is not much, and 20 lbs. isn't all that heavy.? The heaver the pack, the less percentage wt. difference it makes.? For all other applications, I would use the KX3.? It's so easy to get caught up in the small size and great capabilities of the KX3.? The "new toy" syndrome bites all of us, me included, however,? it really boils down to 11oz. and not quite half the size for the capability tradeoffs between the two.? Of course if a person does not own a KX3 already, the buying decision is different, but still involves size vs. capability tradeoffs and does the smaller size really buy a person that much benefit when toting it up a trail.? If cost is a consideration for a first time buyer, then the KX2 is an amazing radio for its? price and portability! 73's Terry, N7TB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk From va3mw at portcredit.net Tue May 24 20:50:18 2016 From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 20:50:18 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 for sale - in VE3 land Message-ID: As described KX3 Factory assembled MH3 Hand Microphone KX3USB Cable Set KXFL3 Dual-Passband Roofing Filter KXAT3 Internal 20 watt Automatic Antenna Tuner KXBC3 Internal NiMH Charger/Real-Time Clock and a new set of batteries Side KX Endplates and Cover Heatsink 90 degree DC power cable Nifty KX3 manual Payment by cash or Paypal only if not in person. Shipping not included. $1000 US Pictures available to serious inquiries of course. Mike va3mw p.s. no, this is not because of the KX2 - I'm just not using it. From w7bv at comcast.net Tue May 24 21:18:04 2016 From: w7bv at comcast.net (Robert S. McCuskey) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 18:18:04 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] SOLD. Elecraft KX-1 Message-ID: Sold: Elecraft KX-1. 4 band xcvr Sent from my iPad From aa2zj at juno.com Tue May 24 21:53:11 2016 From: aa2zj at juno.com (Gerry Miller) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 01:53:11 GMT Subject: [Elecraft] FL-DIGI KX3 SETTINGS FOR PSK AND RTTY Message-ID: <20160524.215311.26297.3@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> I have been away from PSK for more than 17 years and am seeking FL-DIGI settings for my KX3 to operate both PSK and RTTY. Any help would be appreciated. I hope to run both modes this next Field Day. I can be reached at AA2ZJ at JUNO.COM. TNX AN D 73 GERRY ____________________________________________________________ Fit Mom Daily "Remove" Your Eye Bags & Wrinkles In 1 Minute! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/574505d5348585d4324cst03vuc From kx4o at hamradio.me Tue May 24 22:25:03 2016 From: kx4o at hamradio.me (John) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 22:25:03 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 haiku (attempt ) In-Reply-To: References: <20160524.072937.19701.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> <4845eb22-4b1d-5fa4-5897-7f9cd07d4b14@kk5na.com> Message-ID: <57450CFF.4030209@hamradio.me> Sorry for the dyslexia everyone. I think I will stick with engineering and let the poets write poetry. John, kx4o On 5/24/16 10:34 AM, John Huggins, kx4o wrote: > The Haiku format: > Contains seven five seven > 'syllables' okay? > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kx4o at hamradio.me > From k7sss at aol.com Tue May 24 23:13:00 2016 From: k7sss at aol.com (k7sss at aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 23:13:00 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Internal Views Message-ID: <7141bc.42e4e4a5.4476723c@aol.com> Hi all, Someone posted a request for some internal photo's of the KX2. Here is what I found. KXAT2 manual has some views. KXIO2 has some more. None of the other manuals have photo's. 73 Jim H K7SSS From w7ox at socal.rr.com Tue May 24 23:53:01 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 20:53:01 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] The KX2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6cdeb75a-fe84-c580-81bb-53d9a2f3f5b0@socal.rr.com> Dale, You closed with "I'll be very interested in seeing some real in-depth reviews of the KX2." I am surprised we've seen few if any comments here from early owners of the KX2, even though I think I read that 50 were sold in Dayton. True, there are now five reviews at eham http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/12852 -- and one even mentions success with JT-65 -- but those all seem to be from field testers. 73, Phil W7OX On 5/23/16 7:25 PM, w7aqk wrote: > Hi All, > > The ink is barely dry on the release > announcement for the KX2, but it has created > quite a stir. A lot of people are very curious > about this rig, including me. As a KX3 owner > already, I'm not chomping at the bit to get a > KX2, but I am trying to discern just what the > meaningful differences are. > > I think it is intriguing that Elecraft chose to > make it's new rig a "downsized" version of the > KX3. I can certainly see how this has > stimulated a lot of interest. What I'm trying > to figure out is whether or not it does anything > better than the KX3, or is it just a smaller, > and less capable, radio. At this point, I'm > inclined to think the latter. That's not > necessarily a bad thing, but that seems to be a > better generalization. Nonetheless, what you > give up with a KX2 may not outweigh what you > might gain with a KX3--it depends solely on the > user. > > The KX2 is definitely smaller (about half the > volume) and lighter, although the footprint is > not quite that much different. The price is > lighter too! As a true portable radio, I see > this as a nice advantage. SOTA ops probably > will really appreciate this! You still have a > very competent radio with just about all the > features a portable op would want or need. > > The things you give up are not insignificant. > There is a slight power differential, which may, > or may not, be a concern. Possibly more of a > concern might be not having roofing filters. > I've become a huge fan of having those. Also, > losing access to 160 and 6 meters may be > problematic for some. I'm not all that > concerned about no AM or FM, but others might > be. With the emphasis on being a "hand held" > radio, some may lament no VHF/UHF as well. > > I can only guess at the decreased capability of > the optional ATU. The one for the KX2 may still > be sufficient for most needs, but I just hate to > see less capability. Elecraft ATU's in the K3 > and KX3 are great, and I guess I just get > nervous about less. The ATU's in the KX1 and K1 > were only moderately useful, and it was their > reduced size that caused that. Elecraft can > obviously put out superb ATU's, but they need > some room to do that. > > I was disappointed to see that the PX3 would not > mate with the KX2. In their "FAQ's", Elecraft > sort of deflects that by simply suggesting that > capability is more appropriate for a larger rig, > like the KX3 or K3, but I'm still disappointed. > Personally, I think it would have been a big > plus if they could have made it work, but again, > just not enough room in that smaller package--or > I assume that was the problem. Or, maybe it was > to just hold the cost down??? > > I know a lot of K3 owners, who also have KX3's, > and have found the KX3 to be a very effective > substitute/back-up in their main station. > Lately I've been tinkering with that same > process, and it works pretty darned well. > However, I'm not sure the KX2 is nearly as good > a substitute, or back-up. The lesser > capabilities described above would explain much > of that. I still much prefer the K3, but I > don't give up all that much with the KX3. It's > a great reason to own both! > > So, how do you describe the difference in ten > words or less? Is the KX2 a stripped down > version of the KX3, or is the KX3 a deluxe KX2? > In any event, there are sufficient differences > to require some analysis if you are trying to > pick one over the other. If I didn't already > have a KX3 I could probably get a headache > trying to make that decision. Either way you go > you are probably a "winner!" The "easy" way may > be to just conclude you want both, and > apparently some have already made that > decision! I'm not sure that would be my > decision, but hey, I haven't had my hands on a > KX2 yet either! Hi. > > I'll be very interested in seeing some real > in-depth reviews of the KX2. > > 73, > > Dave W7AQK From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Wed May 25 00:38:04 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 20:38:04 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) Message-ID: <201605250438.u4P4c41j025088@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> There are about 1500-2000 hams active on 2m-eme worldwide; probably another 1000 on other bands on eme. VHF+ is huge in EU with contests every month and literally hundreds of stations working on 10-GHz in the UK and EU. 2m is the most used IF for mw. On VHF and UHF up to 1296 there are probably five times as many active hams as in the US. A radio as I described would be well received by this segment of ham radio. Would 1,000 ordered the first month be adequate? 73, Ed - KL7UW PS: you would be surprised how many KX3 are in use as IF for VHF and higher bands. KX2 will probably see some of this use as well. Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 15:16:38 -0700 From: Phil Wheeler To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) Message-ID: <7f140668-ae11-ec14-9ac4-91a72a13a2ce at socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Ed, re "Who will build it?": It seems the market must be large enough to justify the investment. I wonder if it really is? 73, Phil W7OX 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From Andy at rickham.net Wed May 25 03:49:40 2016 From: Andy at rickham.net (Andy McMullin) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 08:49:40 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) In-Reply-To: References: <201605241711.u4OHBOaZ031373@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: I hate saying "me too" but I think you've put it succinctly. There used to be a range of VHF/UHF capable satellite rigs but these days the user seems left to secondhand, huge base station or complex Yaesu menus (with tiny display). Elecraft could wipe the floor. Sent from my iPhone > On 24 May 2016, at 18:56, Barry Baines wrote: > > Ed: > > Please allow me to second your suggestion for a ?KXV3Sat?, though a KX2 derivative with FM + VHF + UHF and full duplex would certainly be another option that would be very intriguing. Whether such a design built into a K2/K3 footprint (with or without HF) is feasible from an engineering/cost of production perspective is something else? > > Given the rapid growth of the amateur satellite ?fleet,? there are plenty of opportunities to take advantage of such a product for satellite operations. AMSAT-NA?s AO-85 (FM) was placed in service in October, 2015. Between now and January there will be three more FM Cubesats built by AMSAT-NA that will be launched. In addition, AMSAT-NA is building a 30 KHz wide linear transponder satellite (Fox-1E). AMSAT-UK launched FunCube-1 (AO-73) which is also a linear transponder satellite. The Chinese placed a number of sats last fall in orbit on one launcher with a variety of capabilities, including liner transponder. These satellites, coupled with FO-29 and AO-7 are certainly candidates for operating with a low power, SSB/CW capable transceiver operating duplex. > > As you know, a number of satellite operators are working these satellites in the field using an Arrow or Elk Antenna with the FT-817x class transceivers which to my knowledge is the only backpack size QRP-capable HF-VHF-UHF multimode radio with built-in battery for portable operation in the field currently on the market. The FT-817x is not full duplex, so satellite operators use two of these radios to be able to hear their downlink when working the linear transponder satellites. While the FT-817x does work well for this type of operation, it does have a confusing set of options in the menu and in my opinion is more difficult to learn to operate than what Elecraft offers in their firmware architecture; having to use for FT-817s for full duplex adds to the complexity and cost of such operations. Interest in satellite operations is increasing and such a product would spur further growth. It seems to me that an Elecraft-designed radio capable of FM + UHF + VHF + full duplex in an integrated package with the footprint of a KX2 or the KX3 would be a winner; a HT-size transceiver (KX2) capable of working the linear satellites plus the FM sates would be a game changer for satellite operators. > > FWIW, > > Barry Baines, WD4ASW > Westborough, MA > (Currently in Deshler, OH after ?surviving? Hamvention) > > > > >> On May 24, 2016, at 1:11 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: >> >> One type of radio that Elecraft has avoided making to date: >> multi-band, multi-mode VHF/UHF, cross-band duplex radio. >> >> I recently bought a (not new) radio that, at its time, was considered one of the finest radios for this: >> Yaesu FT-736R. It is still held in considerable respect. >> >> I wanted a VHF/UHF multi-mode radio capable of satellite operation and had considered a cross-band duplex-capable FM mobile radio, but it would have limited me to FM. For approximately $200 more I obtained a "cherry" FT-736R with basic 2m/70cm capability. >> >> The radio is capable of expansion to two more bands via installation of internal modules for 6m, 220, and 1.2 GHz. Quite a remarkable model of adaptability for its time. >> >> I previously owned its successor, the FT-847, which was HF, 6m, 2m, 70cm. But on used market cost double what I spent on the FT-736R. >> >> Had Elecraft offered a VHF/UHF cross-band duplex multi-mode radio I would have considered it. Nothing on the current market equals the Elecraft radio quality (my opinion). I chose the K3/10 plus transverters for eme, but the K3 is not capable of duplex operation. >> >> If a KVX3sat were produced - I think the market is there. Current competitors: IC-9100 and TS2000X;Yaesu is out of the satellite radio market. >> >> 73, Ed - KL7UW >> http://www.kl7uw.com >> "Kits made by KL7UW" >> Dubus Mag business: >> dubususa at gmail.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to bbaines at mac.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to andy at rickham.net From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Wed May 25 04:43:01 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 09:43:01 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) In-Reply-To: <201605250438.u4P4c41j025088@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201605250438.u4P4c41j025088@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <6FB6C3D0-D050-4ABC-BF7B-0AF56C390F12@yahoo.co.uk> When I was active on the linear transponders of AO6 through to AO13 I never used a satellite duplex radio, always separates. We had much better satellites then, in decent orbits like AO-10. So Yaesu in particular brought out lovely expensive duplex radios. Great! However then the linear sats gradually died and were replaced by digital radio sats. Some FM one channel toy sats, but nothing like the old wide linear transponders. Only recently with FunCube and the Chinese Sats have we started to get linear voice transponders back, but again in low fast moving orbits. Many are now making use of SDR dongles or other SDR receivers as their receiver for sats, because they have many advantages over the old way of just being able to listen to your own receive channel. With an SDR and panoramic can see all of the passband of the transponder or transponders on multiple satellites at once. You can point and click on a signal of interest. Record the whole pass and play it back and see who you missed in the very short pass. You can run the SDR on a tablet computer in the field, and have more capability than your old FT-736R of olden days. In short, until we have high orbit transponders on VHF UHF like AO-10/13 no manufacturer is going to produce an FT-736R replacement. Any plans for a geostationary satellite would not use VHF UHF, but microwave to get the bandwidth required for a third of the world trying to access it at one time all the time. Things have moved on, a single duplex box isn't what is needed. A transmitter CAT coupled to an SDR panoramic receiver is much better. Point on the screen on the signal you see and with Doppler corrected software set the transmitter you have via CAT to the uplink frequency. It is also magnitudes cheaper. 73 from David GM4JJJ From Andy at rickham.net Wed May 25 06:01:39 2016 From: Andy at rickham.net (Andy McMullin) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 11:01:39 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) In-Reply-To: <6FB6C3D0-D050-4ABC-BF7B-0AF56C390F12@yahoo.co.uk> References: <201605250438.u4P4c41j025088@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> <6FB6C3D0-D050-4ABC-BF7B-0AF56C390F12@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: But isn't that the point? The KXn family ARE SDR, with I and Q outputs ready for excellent pandapter display with the PXn. Just want VHF/UHF instead of HF and it's all there. Andy, G8TQH Sent from my iPhone > On 25 May 2016, at 09:43, David Anderson via Elecraft wrote: > > When I was active on the linear transponders of AO6 through to AO13 I never used a satellite duplex radio, always separates. We had much better satellites then, in decent orbits like AO-10. So Yaesu in particular brought out lovely expensive duplex radios. Great! However then the linear sats gradually died and were replaced by digital radio sats. Some FM one channel toy sats, but nothing like the old wide linear transponders. > > Only recently with FunCube and the Chinese Sats have we started to get linear voice transponders back, but again in low fast moving orbits. > > Many are now making use of SDR dongles or other SDR receivers as their receiver for sats, because they have many advantages over the old way of just being able to listen to your own receive channel. With an SDR and panoramic can see all of the passband of the transponder or transponders on multiple satellites at once. You can point and click on a signal of interest. Record the whole pass and play it back and see who you missed in the very short pass. You can run the SDR on a tablet computer in the field, and have more capability than your old FT-736R of olden days. > > In short, until we have high orbit transponders on VHF UHF like AO-10/13 no manufacturer is going to produce an FT-736R replacement. Any plans for a geostationary satellite would not use VHF UHF, but microwave to get the bandwidth required for a third of the world trying to access it at one time all the time. > > Things have moved on, a single duplex box isn't what is needed. A transmitter CAT coupled to an SDR panoramic receiver is much better. Point on the screen on the signal you see and with Doppler corrected software set the transmitter you have via CAT to the uplink frequency. It is also magnitudes cheaper. > > > 73 from David GM4JJJ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to andy at rickham.net From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Wed May 25 06:47:20 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 02:47:20 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) In-Reply-To: <6FB6C3D0-D050-4ABC-BF7B-0AF56C390F12@yahoo.co.uk> References: <201605250438.u4P4c41j025088@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> <6FB6C3D0-D050-4ABC-BF7B-0AF56C390F12@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <201605251047.u4PAlLnI020010@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> David, At 12:43 AM 5/25/2016, David Anderson wrote: >When I was active on the linear transponders of AO6 through to AO13 >I never used a satellite duplex radio, always separates. We had much >better satellites then, in decent orbits like AO-10. So Yaesu in >particular brought out lovely expensive duplex radios. Great! >However then the linear sats gradually died and were replaced by >digital radio sats. Some FM one channel toy sats, but nothing like >the old wide linear transponders. The FT-736R and other dual-band multi-mode duplex radios were produced for the early Heo linear transponder sats - true. And the market for expensive big box radios faded with only single channel FM Leo sats. Understandable that mfrs would go where the market is largest. Kenwood and Icom still market such a radio; Yaesu stopped. But they didn't drop out of the multi-mode VHF radio market...just a duplex model. >Only recently with FunCube and the Chinese Sats have we started to >get linear voice transponders back, but again in low fast moving orbits. > >Many are now making use of SDR dongles or other SDR receivers as >their receiver for sats, because they have many advantages over the >old way of just being able to listen to your own receive channel. >With an SDR and panoramic can see all of the passband of the >transponder or transponders on multiple satellites at once. You can >point and click on a signal of interest. Record the whole pass and >play it back and see who you missed in the very short pass. You >can run the SDR on a tablet computer in the field, and have more >capability than your old FT-736R of olden days. And my proposal was not for such? Clearly I stated it should be a direct frequency SDR, but married with a transmitter which the funcubes aren't. I mentioned a panadapter and IQ interface to computer to support modern sw. >In short, until we have high orbit transponders on VHF UHF like >AO-10/13 no manufacturer is going to produce an FT-736R replacement. I bought an old FT-736R for more reasons than for satellite. But that should not be confused with my proposal for a KX3-like duplex radio. Certainly one would not compare the KX3 with a FT-840. Totally a different product. Totally new tech. > Any plans for a geostationary satellite would not use VHF UHF, but > microwave to get the bandwidth required for a third of the world > trying to access it at one time all the time. Yes, that is true. That will involve a new mw radio designed for the digital modes to be used. Amsat is cognizant of the fact that hams will not be easily do this as was done for AO-40 s-band using surplus stuff. The VHF radio + transverter will not suffice. The concept under consideration includes SDR tech. >Things have moved on, a single duplex box isn't what is needed. A >transmitter CAT coupled to an SDR panoramic receiver is much better. >Point on the screen on the signal you see and with Doppler corrected >software set the transmitter you have via CAT to the uplink >frequency. It is also magnitudes cheaper. Is that not what I talked about? The KX3 is a SDR though limited to HF/6m + 2m transverter. Perhaps a wide-range SDR would be better but you still need a comparable transmitter which can operate in duplex. At present this still is a bunch of boxes wired together requiring a lot of engineering by the individual vs a complete package. And such equipment should have more than a single application like satellite but instead offer a wide range of VHF+ operational activity - so one could buy just one box for doing all. But you are correct that the concept should incorporate newest SDR technology with ample use of computing power. I believe I mentioned all those requirements. Maybe one can build a wide-range SDR based radio without need for transverters. A SDR that tunes 50-4000 MHz but with comparable transmit capability. I'm not sure that one can do direct freq SDR that far with existing tech. One thing to guard against is thinking SDR means only a receiver (which current funcube are). It may be that we are too soon to accomplish that? The first guy to do it will have the market. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk Wed May 25 07:33:24 2016 From: vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk (Johnny Siu) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 11:33:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) In-Reply-To: <201605251047.u4PAlLnI020010@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201605250438.u4P4c41j025088@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> <6FB6C3D0-D050-4ABC-BF7B-0AF56C390F12@yahoo.co.uk> <201605251047.u4PAlLnI020010@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <1331861383.401213.1464176004123.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Instead of developing a new radio for SAT. ?Can there be a device that can link two elecraft radios for up / downlink of SAT? In the past, CT16 can link Icom IC275 and IC475 to work as a pair. I think this route will save a lot of R&D for a new radio. 73 Johnny VR2XMC ???? Edward R Cole ???? David Anderson ??(CC)? Elecraft at mailman.qth.net ????? 2016?05?25? (??) 6:47 PM ??? Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) David, At 12:43 AM 5/25/2016, David Anderson wrote: >When I was active on the linear transponders of AO6 through to AO13 >I never used a satellite duplex radio, always separates. We had much >better satellites then, in decent orbits like AO-10. So Yaesu in >particular brought out lovely expensive duplex radios. Great! >However then the linear sats gradually died and were replaced by >digital radio sats. Some FM one channel toy sats, but nothing like >the old wide linear transponders. The FT-736R and other dual-band multi-mode duplex radios were produced for the early Heo linear transponder sats - true.? And the market for expensive big box radios faded with only single channel FM Leo sats.? Understandable that mfrs would go where the market is largest.? Kenwood and Icom still market such a radio; Yaesu stopped.? But they didn't drop out of the multi-mode VHF radio market...just a duplex model. >Only recently with FunCube and the Chinese Sats have we started to >get linear voice transponders back, but again in low fast moving orbits. > >Many are now making use of SDR dongles or other SDR receivers as >their receiver for sats, because they have many advantages over the >old way of just being able to listen to your own receive channel. >With an SDR and panoramic can see all of the passband of the >transponder or transponders on multiple satellites at once. You can >point and click on a signal of interest. Record the whole pass and >play it back and see who you missed in the very short pass.? You >can run the SDR on a tablet computer in the field, and have more >capability than your old FT-736R of olden days. And my proposal was not for such?? Clearly I stated it should be a direct frequency SDR, but married with a transmitter which the funcubes aren't.? I mentioned a panadapter and IQ interface to computer to support modern sw. >In short, until we have high orbit transponders on VHF UHF like >AO-10/13 no manufacturer is going to produce an FT-736R replacement. I bought an old FT-736R for more reasons than for satellite.? But that should not be confused with my proposal for a KX3-like duplex radio.? Certainly one would not compare the KX3 with a FT-840.? Totally a different product.? Totally new tech. >? Any plans for a geostationary satellite would not use VHF UHF, but > microwave to get the bandwidth required for a third of the world > trying to access it at one time all the time. Yes, that is true.? That will involve a new mw radio designed for the digital modes to be used.? Amsat is cognizant of the fact that hams will not be easily do this as was done for AO-40 s-band using surplus stuff.? The VHF radio + transverter will not suffice.? The concept under consideration includes SDR tech. >Things have moved on, a single duplex box isn't what is needed.? A >transmitter CAT coupled to an SDR panoramic receiver is much better. >Point on the screen on the signal you see and with Doppler corrected >software set the transmitter you have via CAT to the uplink >frequency. It is also magnitudes cheaper. Is that not what I talked about?? The KX3 is a SDR though limited to HF/6m + 2m transverter.? Perhaps a wide-range SDR would be better but you still need a comparable transmitter which can operate in duplex.? At present this still is a bunch of boxes wired together requiring a lot of engineering by the individual vs a complete package. And such equipment should have more than a single application like satellite but instead offer a wide range of VHF+ operational activity - so one could buy just one box for doing all.? But you are correct that the concept should incorporate newest SDR technology with ample use of computing power.? I believe I mentioned all those requirements. Maybe one can build a wide-range SDR based radio without need for transverters.? A SDR that tunes 50-4000 MHz but with comparable transmit capability.? I'm not sure that one can do direct freq SDR that far with existing tech. One thing to guard against is thinking SDR means only a receiver (which current funcube are). It may be that we are too soon to accomplish that?? The first guy to do it will have the market. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com ? ? "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: ? ? dubususa at gmail.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk From nf4l at comcast.net Wed May 25 07:37:12 2016 From: nf4l at comcast.net (Mike Reublin NF4L) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 07:37:12 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FL-DIGI KX3 SETTINGS FOR PSK AND RTTY In-Reply-To: <20160524.215311.26297.3@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> References: <20160524.215311.26297.3@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Gerry - I don't know the KX3, but here are my settings for the K3. http://nf4l.com/NGConfig/default.htm 73, Mike NF4L > On May 24, 2016, at 9:53 PM, Gerry Miller wrote: > > > I have been away from PSK for more than 17 years and am seeking FL-DIGI settings for my KX3 to operate both PSK and RTTY. Any help would be appreciated. I hope to run both modes this next Field Day. I can be reached at AA2ZJ at JUNO.COM. TNX AN D 73 GERRY > ____________________________________________________________ > Fit Mom Daily > "Remove" Your Eye Bags & Wrinkles In 1 Minute! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/574505d5348585d4324cst03vuc > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nf4l at comcast.net From hk3w.inf at gmail.com Wed May 25 07:41:45 2016 From: hk3w.inf at gmail.com (Francisco "Siso" Hennessey Jr. HK3W) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 06:41:45 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Microkeyer II vs K3s Message-ID: <00A0A8D2-DB0E-4E0F-93CB-61F3F8A66627@gmail.com> I need your help please!! The Microham program does not recognize de K3 This is how I have it connected: 1. The Y cable is conected to the K3S ACC port. 2. One of the Y legs goes to the MicroHam's ACC. 3. The other leg of the Y cable goes to the XCVR port on the KAT500. 4. The E8504643 cable goes from the KAT500 (AMP) to the KPA500 AUX1 port. 5. The Microham RS232 cable is connected to the PC port on the P3. 6. The XCVR port on the P3 is connected to the RS232/P3 port on the K3. I have a leftover Y cable as Elecraft sent me 2. I use 38400 bps in baud rate I have K3S + P3 +KAT500+KPA500 Regards Siso HK3W > > "The world hamradio net has never been muted." - "La red mundial de radioaficionados nunca ha sido silenciada." > Francisco "Siso" Hennessey - HK3W / 5K3W / 5K0W > ARRL DXCC CARD CHECKER > DXCC HR SSB ? DXCC HR MIXED - DXCC (CW-RTTY-SSB) - 5BWAC - 8BDXCC TPA #223 - WAZ RTTY - A1 Operators Club, QSL Inf: QRZ.COM Log Online: Club Log Skype: Siso-HK3W | Twitter: @HK3W |WhatsApp :+57 311 812 2681 > Member of: ARRL (Life Member) - - ARLHS - LoTW - CDXC - 30MDG #1804 - 10X ? Araucaria DX Group - A1Op.Club ? > From alsopb at comcast.net Wed May 25 08:05:51 2016 From: alsopb at comcast.net (brian) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 12:05:51 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) In-Reply-To: <201605250438.u4P4c41j025088@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201605250438.u4P4c41j025088@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <5745951F.2090102@comcast.net> I should be the last person on earth to comment on this. If there is such a large market in EU then it suggests that an EU manufacturer ought to be the source. Why hasn't that happened? One factor missing from your 1000 estimate is the fraction that are likely to buy. Clearly active stations already have their own gear. My experience with satellites is minimal. 1000 contacts. The trouble was that represented less than 50 different stations. The novelty quickly died. Haven't been back since. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 5/25/2016 4:38 AM, Edward R Cole wrote: > There are about 1500-2000 hams active on 2m-eme worldwide; probably > another 1000 on other bands on eme. > VHF+ is huge in EU with contests every month and literally hundreds of > stations working on 10-GHz in the UK and EU. > 2m is the most used IF for mw. > > On VHF and UHF up to 1296 there are probably five times as many active > hams as in the US. A radio as I described would be well received by > this segment of ham radio. > > Would 1,000 ordered the first month be adequate? > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > PS: you would be surprised how many KX3 are in use as IF for VHF and > higher bands. KX2 will probably see some of this use as well. > > Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 15:16:38 -0700 > From: Phil Wheeler > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) > Message-ID: <7f140668-ae11-ec14-9ac4-91a72a13a2ce at socal.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Ed, re "Who will build it?": It seems the market > must be large enough to justify the investment. I > wonder if it really is? > > 73, Phil W7OX > > > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > "Kits made by KL7UW" > Dubus Mag business: > dubususa at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to alsopb at comcast.net From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Wed May 25 08:10:20 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 13:10:20 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) In-Reply-To: References: <201605250438.u4P4c41j025088@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> <6FB6C3D0-D050-4ABC-BF7B-0AF56C390F12@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: That is the point yes. I wasn't saying it wasn't. Excuse my previous comments which came across as confrontational, they weren't meant to be and my only excuse is lack of coffee ;-) I was merely outlining my thoughts which may be in agreement with what has already been said by others. I use the KX3 with external transverter for TX and an SDRPlay for receive. The point is there are many ways to skin a cat, and we have excellent cheap SDR receivers now which combined with any transmitter you have will accomplish what we need for the existing LEO linear transponders. Like Ed KL7UW, I also have an FT-736R which I picked up a few years ago when nobody wanted them as they thought the FT-847 was a better radio because it was newer. The FT-736R has a much cleaner transmitter (can be improved further with some simple mods), lacks a few important things like transmit inhibit for use with sequencers, and has a poor 435 MHz receiver in terms of strong signal handling. The 23cm modules are like rocking horse s**t to find though :-( but despite all that I am hanging on to mine as a backup rig and occasional satellite use. First we need the sats, and until then the manufacturers are not going to pull the trigger on an all in one VHF/UHF satellite box I fear. So the easiest option -now- for many who want to get their feet wet is a cheap wideband SDR receiver combined with any multi mode transmitter old or new. Many of the young new hams who are going to be interested in cube sats just don't have much money to spend unlike the relatively rich retired hams on this list, myself included. They will go for new technology which they can put together themselves, SDR dongles, Raspberry Pi, Etc. At a fraction of the cost of the cheapest all in one duplex box. They are the future of the hobby, and will have entirely different ideas than we old timers. This is a good thing. Similar things happened with the pacsats where many used old CB transceivers as their IF for Transverters to get PSK or FSK modems going for store and forward sats. Experimentation with cheap gear repurposed was the order of the day for many. The Icom 7300 with built in touch panoramic display points the way forward for all manufacturers, in a couple of generations we will have higher frequency versions with multiple receivers. If the 7300 had transverter facilities I might even have tried one, the price is right I feel. But I have no interest in a radio that only goes up to 70 MHz. I never operate below 50 MHz. I still love the KX3 which is my main transceiver for VHF, using an external transverter on 2m, building one for 70cm, and just bought a used 4m internal transverter for it which should do me for now. It isn't ideal as Elecraft didn't put in a transverter socket, but there are ways round it, a lot of switch boxes are required to route audio on receive and transmit for digital and SSB, and a frequency decoder on the RS-232 is needed to route RF and PTT send to the appropriate transverter. Perhaps a future KX4 might be less of a field radio and more of a shack radio so that less clutter is needed in the shack. I didn't go for a K3 or K3S as the KX3 does nearly everything I need and I feel that a new generation SDR radio must be coming along, so I will wait and see what happens. 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 25 May 2016, at 11:01, Andy McMullin wrote: > > But isn't that the point? > > The KXn family ARE SDR, with I and Q outputs ready for excellent pandapter display with the PXn. > > Just want VHF/UHF instead of HF and it's all there. > > Andy, G8TQH > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 25 May 2016, at 09:43, David Anderson via Elecraft wrote: >> >> When I was active on the linear transponders of AO6 through to AO13 I never used a satellite duplex radio, always separates. We had much better satellites then, in decent orbits like AO-10. So Yaesu in particular brought out lovely expensive duplex radios. Great! However then the linear sats gradually died and were replaced by digital radio sats. Some FM one channel toy sats, but nothing like the old wide linear transponders. >> >> Only recently with FunCube and the Chinese Sats have we started to get linear voice transponders back, but again in low fast moving orbits. >> >> Many are now making use of SDR dongles or other SDR receivers as their receiver for sats, because they have many advantages over the old way of just being able to listen to your own receive channel. With an SDR and panoramic can see all of the passband of the transponder or transponders on multiple satellites at once. You can point and click on a signal of interest. Record the whole pass and play it back and see who you missed in the very short pass. You can run the SDR on a tablet computer in the field, and have more capability than your old FT-736R of olden days. >> >> In short, until we have high orbit transponders on VHF UHF like AO-10/13 no manufacturer is going to produce an FT-736R replacement. Any plans for a geostationary satellite would not use VHF UHF, but microwave to get the bandwidth required for a third of the world trying to access it at one time all the time. >> >> Things have moved on, a single duplex box isn't what is needed. A transmitter CAT coupled to an SDR panoramic receiver is much better. Point on the screen on the signal you see and with Doppler corrected software set the transmitter you have via CAT to the uplink frequency. It is also magnitudes cheaper. >> >> >> 73 from David GM4JJJ >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to andy at rickham.net > > From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Wed May 25 08:33:43 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 13:33:43 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) In-Reply-To: <5745951F.2090102@comcast.net> References: <201605250438.u4P4c41j025088@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> <5745951F.2090102@comcast.net> Message-ID: The Europeans have produced the FunCube dongle and the SDRPLay. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Chinese producing something as they are launching more satellites than anyone else just now. For many most of the fun with satellites is building up the gear and antenna tracking, playing with the software, and not buying a do it all box and just working people, that gets boring quickly. It was more useful when we had high orbit birds, then it was a way of chatting to people on another continent about technical matters with almost no QRM for an hour or so. That has largely been replaced by the Internet. 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 25 May 2016, at 13:05, brian wrote: > > I should be the last person on earth to comment on this. > > If there is such a large market in EU then it suggests that an EU manufacturer ought to be the source. Why hasn't that happened? > > One factor missing from your 1000 estimate is the fraction that are likely to buy. Clearly active stations already have their own gear. > > My experience with satellites is minimal. 1000 contacts. The trouble was that represented less than 50 different stations. The novelty quickly died. Haven't been back since. > > 73 de Brian/K3KO > >> On 5/25/2016 4:38 AM, Edward R Cole wrote: >> There are about 1500-2000 hams active on 2m-eme worldwide; probably >> another 1000 on other bands on eme. >> VHF+ is huge in EU with contests every month and literally hundreds of >> stations working on 10-GHz in the UK and EU. >> 2m is the most used IF for mw. >> >> On VHF and UHF up to 1296 there are probably five times as many active >> hams as in the US. A radio as I described would be well received by >> this segment of ham radio. >> >> Would 1,000 ordered the first month be adequate? >> >> 73, Ed - KL7UW >> PS: you would be surprised how many KX3 are in use as IF for VHF and >> higher bands. KX2 will probably see some of this use as well. >> >> Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 15:16:38 -0700 >> From: Phil Wheeler >> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) >> Message-ID: <7f140668-ae11-ec14-9ac4-91a72a13a2ce at socal.rr.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed >> >> Ed, re "Who will build it?": It seems the market >> must be large enough to justify the investment. I >> wonder if it really is? >> >> 73, Phil W7OX >> >> >> >> 73, Ed - KL7UW >> http://www.kl7uw.com >> "Kits made by KL7UW" >> Dubus Mag business: >> dubususa at gmail.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to alsopb at comcast.net > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk From hhoyt at mebtel.net Wed May 25 08:48:33 2016 From: hhoyt at mebtel.net (Howard Hoyt) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 08:48:33 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 User Group is now the KX User Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <316bce7b-cbdf-6dc4-f530-0a095579dc17@mebtel.net> Hi all, In response to requests from both Elecraft and new KX2 owners we have morphed the Yahoo KX3 User Group into the Elecraft KX User Group. This is in keeping with Elecraft's division between their portable KX product line and their desktop K line. We welcome the owners of any KX1, KX2, KX3, KXPA100, PX3, or accessory for any of these rigs to join with other like-minded Elecraft owners. We are over 5000 members strong and growing fast! Chances are if you have a question about one of these rigs, there are many others who have answered that question in our group. The Yahoo KX User Group is supported by both Elecraft personnel and others allied with Elecraft, so updates and beta firmwares are announced there. To join, go to: https://groups.yahoo.com/KX3 Click on the "+ Join Group" button. Cheers & 73, Howard Hoyt - WA4PSC Yahoo KX User Group Moderator From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Wed May 25 08:50:30 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 13:50:30 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Wireless stereo headset recommendations Message-ID: I am thinking about adding a wireless stereo headset to my KX3 so that I can operate remotely from other parts of my house. I don't want a Bluetooth headset as the range is fairly short. There are other wireless headsets that use UHF I believe that have a much better range. It would be nice to have a microphone so that I can transmit (using VOX). I can change frequency etc already buy using my iPad and VNC looking at my SDR on my PC (HDSDR on a SDRPlay on my IF) which can via Omnirig change the frequency of the KX3. All I lack is the audio, and wireless stereo headset would seem to solve that. I was speaking to a ham in Wales today who used a Sony wireless headphone to at least listen to his radio from outside the shack (so he can hear if a sporadic E opening is happening). That put the idea into my head. I have looked at the Sony website, but am more confused than ever. Many headsets refer to PlayStations which I confess to knowing nothing at all about, but appear to connect via USB to the wireless transceiver. I don't want that, I want a couple of jack plugs Mic and headset into the transceiver. Any recommendations? 73 from David GM4JJJ From w0eb at cox.net Wed May 25 09:35:05 2016 From: w0eb at cox.net (Jim Sheldon) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 13:35:05 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S bug in FW Beta 5.46 Keyer Memories Message-ID: Just found a bug in the keyer memories when programming for PSK/RTTY. The memory loads fine until you send the ..__ (IM) character to terminate transmission and then it locks up as if you had a constant "key down" with a hand key. I was programming memory 4 to call CQ on RTTY when I discovered this. I tried the other memories and got the same results. It never did this on the K3 I used to have so I don't know if it's unique to the K3S or whether it does this on the K3 as well. Whoever is handling the FW for the K3/K3S might want to take a look at this as it could get annoying. The anomaly only shows up when programming the memories, not when sending direct with the paddles and the IM character does terminate transmission as it should. It just causes the keyer to hang when the IM character is sent during memory programming. Anyone Else notice this? (Can't be RFI as there is no RF output during CW memory programming). Can't call Support as they don't give any help on Beta FW. Jim - W0EB From mike.harris at horizon.co.fk Wed May 25 09:55:02 2016 From: mike.harris at horizon.co.fk (Mike Harris) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 10:55:02 -0300 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S bug in FW Beta 5.46 Keyer Memories In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: And where is Beta 5.46 hidden? Some of us like to live on the edge. Regards, Mike VP8NO On 25/05/2016 10:35, Jim Sheldon wrote: > Just found a bug in the keyer memories when programming for PSK/RTTY. > The memory loads fine until you send the ..__ (IM) character to > terminate transmission and then it locks up as if you had a constant > "key down" with a hand key. I was programming memory 4 to call CQ on > RTTY when I discovered this. I tried the other memories and got the > same results. It never did this on the K3 I used to have so I don't > know if it's unique to the K3S or whether it does this on the K3 as well. > > Whoever is handling the FW for the K3/K3S might want to take a look at > this as it could get annoying. The anomaly only shows up when > programming the memories, not when sending direct with the paddles and > the IM character does terminate transmission as it should. It just > causes the keyer to hang when the IM character is sent during memory > programming. > > Anyone Else notice this? (Can't be RFI as there is no RF output during > CW memory programming). Can't call Support as they don't give any help > on Beta FW. > > Jim - W0EB From jermo at carolinaheli.com Wed May 25 10:17:12 2016 From: jermo at carolinaheli.com (Jerry Moore) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 10:17:12 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] {P3] resale value Message-ID: <044f01d1b690$229326f0$67b974d0$@carolinaheli.com> Is it realistic for used P3s to sell for 80% of retail value when they don't have a warranty, you don't know if they've been tinkered with, you don't know if they are 100%, and the possibility of not getting a cable or part that comes with it when you purchase NIB? I'm in the market for P3 but the prices being asked for used units are such I'm looking to just buy new. Just asking because I'm not sure if I'm being realistic in my price expectations or if the sellers are overpricing. I already feel that Elecraft gear prices are a premium but have been willing to pay the NIB prices to support a local US company. Jerry Moore CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324 http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and Patriotic. From w7ox at socal.rr.com Wed May 25 10:30:36 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 07:30:36 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 User Group is now the KX User Group In-Reply-To: <316bce7b-cbdf-6dc4-f530-0a095579dc17@mebtel.net> References: <316bce7b-cbdf-6dc4-f530-0a095579dc17@mebtel.net> Message-ID: <80aa60e4-7df0-8866-f5de-cafc908b577a@socal.rr.com> Good job on the rename to KX User Group, with photos of all three rigs :-) Phil W7OX On 5/25/16 5:48 AM, Howard Hoyt wrote: > Hi all, > > In response to requests from both Elecraft and > new KX2 owners we have morphed the Yahoo KX3 > User Group into the Elecraft KX User Group. > This is in keeping with Elecraft's division > between their portable KX product line and their > desktop K line. > > We welcome the owners of any KX1, KX2, KX3, > KXPA100, PX3, or accessory for any of these rigs > to join with other like-minded Elecraft owners. > We are over 5000 members strong and growing fast! > > Chances are if you have a question about one of > these rigs, there are many others who have > answered that question in our group. The Yahoo > KX User Group is supported by both Elecraft > personnel and others allied with Elecraft, so > updates and beta firmwares are announced there. > > To join, go to: https://groups.yahoo.com/KX3 > Click on the "+ Join Group" button. > > Cheers & 73, > > Howard Hoyt - WA4PSC > Yahoo KX User Group Moderator From w0eb at cox.net Wed May 25 10:46:17 2016 From: w0eb at cox.net (Jim Sheldon) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 14:46:17 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Bug in FW 5.46 Message-ID: Further checks on this - I reloaded the old FW back to Beta 5.35 and the problem existed in that one so I loaded the current production version 5.38 and it occurs there as well so I went back to the test version I've been using. Once programmed, the memories work as they should, they just hang to a solid tone when the IM character is sent during programming and it appears to be a problem with the K3S only. Jim - W0EB From bill at wjschmidt.com Wed May 25 11:05:31 2016 From: bill at wjschmidt.com (Dr. William J. Schmidt, II) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 10:05:31 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) In-Reply-To: <201605250438.u4P4c41j025088@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201605250438.u4P4c41j025088@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <0B76CA05-C3A6-42F2-8525-455EA4BC6F8C@wjschmidt.com> I would buy a 736R updated replacement in a microsecond.... Specially with some of the capabilities of the K3. I sold my 736R and have regretted it ever since. (I have no interest in QRP/ being weak). Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch ? K9ZC Staunton, Illinois Owner ? Operator Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com email: bill at wjschmidt.com > On May 24, 2016, at 11:38 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: > > There are about 1500-2000 hams active on 2m-eme worldwide; probably another 1000 on other bands on eme. > VHF+ is huge in EU with contests every month and literally hundreds of stations working on 10-GHz in the UK and EU. > 2m is the most used IF for mw. > > On VHF and UHF up to 1296 there are probably five times as many active hams as in the US. A radio as I described would be well received by this segment of ham radio. > > Would 1,000 ordered the first month be adequate? > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > PS: you would be surprised how many KX3 are in use as IF for VHF and higher bands. KX2 will probably see some of this use as well. > > Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 15:16:38 -0700 > From: Phil Wheeler > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) > Message-ID: <7f140668-ae11-ec14-9ac4-91a72a13a2ce at socal.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Ed, re "Who will build it?": It seems the market > must be large enough to justify the investment. I > wonder if it really is? > > 73, Phil W7OX > > > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > "Kits made by KL7UW" > Dubus Mag business: > dubususa at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to bill at wjschmidt.com From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Wed May 25 11:29:10 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 07:29:10 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) Message-ID: <201605251529.u4PFTAnk027571@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> Sure - I have done no market analysis survey - its just a shot in the dark. To address why no EU mfr - really? How many ham mfrs are US-based? ALL three top brands are in Japan. Only Tentec and Elecraft are US. There are many VHF-mw transverter mfr's located in EU and only one in the US. (David should comment on UK-EU VHF activity). OK. When the Flex-5000, came out many eme stations bought it - they already had equipment. Many eme'rs have bought the K3, as well. They traded their old radios. How many hams traded their FT-817 to buy the KX3? I did. New tech doesn't just attract HFers. Satellite experience faded with the end of the Heo linear transponder era. Leo sat are lower altitude so max range is much more limited which also limits the number of stations that are workable - got that. Having one channel causes "traffic jams" also negative. That is why the radio I envision cannot be just for satellite users. In fact it should be thoroughly researched for what the full spectrum of VHF+ users want. I (not very humbly) believe I represent that. I tried to list the features wanted. The market is beyond just satellite users or eme'rs or FM repeater users, or contesters, or meteor scatter users, or Emcomm users, or digital mode users, ...only if the radio offers something for all of them - big hint! All the big three are marketing multiple models for VHF multi-mode; only two radios do satellite in duplex (I'm not counting the HT's). So there must be a market. MY point it nothing made today offers all the feature that VHFers want, and many are not state of the art tech. Elecraft has shown the willingness to venture into new tech. Why I suggest they might consider making such a radio. Some day someone will - watch the stampede when that happens! 73, Ed To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) Message-ID: <5745951F.2090102 at comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed I should be the last person on earth to comment on this. If there is such a large market in EU then it suggests that an EU manufacturer ought to be the source. Why hasn't that happened? One factor missing from your 1000 estimate is the fraction that are likely to buy. Clearly active stations already have their own gear. My experience with satellites is minimal. 1000 contacts. The trouble was that represented less than 50 different stations. The novelty quickly died. Haven't been back since. 73 de Brian/K3KO 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From nr4c at widomaker.com Wed May 25 11:24:03 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 11:24:03 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Bug in FW 5.46 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <93CA6DFD-26F9-44AA-8778-ED6D085D52DB@widomaker.com> No issue with mine using "|". Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 25, 2016, at 10:46 AM, Jim Sheldon wrote: > > Further checks on this - I reloaded the old FW back to Beta 5.35 and the problem existed in that one so I loaded the current production version 5.38 and it occurs there as well so I went back to the test version I've been using. Once programmed, the memories work as they should, they just hang to a solid tone when the IM character is sent during programming and it appears to be a problem with the K3S only. > > Jim - W0EB > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From nr4c at widomaker.com Wed May 25 11:22:43 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 11:22:43 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] {P3] resale value In-Reply-To: <044f01d1b690$229326f0$67b974d0$@carolinaheli.com> References: <044f01d1b690$229326f0$67b974d0$@carolinaheli.com> Message-ID: <445A7CCB-BDEF-4D4E-A8A1-7A757A374040@widomaker.com> Jerry. It's only worth what you are willing to pay. Making sure you get the cables shouldn't be a big problem. Otherwise I've not heard of many (if any) issues with P3 units since its introduction. And there isn't much to "tinker" with. Elecraft gear is pretty solid and does seem to hold value well. If you think saving 20% will make it fit your budget I'd not hesitate to purchase. For a K3, that's a piece of change ( P3 + KXV3B = $900). Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 25, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Jerry Moore wrote: > > Is it realistic for used P3s to sell for 80% of retail value when they don't > have a warranty, you don't know if they've been tinkered with, you don't > know if they are 100%, and the possibility of not getting a cable or part > that comes with it when you purchase NIB? > > I'm in the market for P3 but the prices being asked for used units are such > I'm looking to just buy new. > > Just asking because I'm not sure if I'm being realistic in my price > expectations or if the sellers are overpricing. I already feel that Elecraft > gear prices are a premium but have been willing to pay the NIB prices to > support a local US company. > > Jerry Moore > CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists > AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324 > http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB > An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and > Patriotic. > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From nr4c at widomaker.com Wed May 25 11:11:10 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 11:11:10 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S bug in FW Beta 5.46 Keyer Memories In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Did you actually input "..--" or did you use the "|" vertical bar or "pipe" symbol? The "|" is mentioned in the K3 utility under CONFIG/Edit CW memories I think. It works for RTTY, PSK and is not processed on CW so it had no effect on CW. One set of messages works for all. Also I noted you used the underscore instead of a dash. This might also be an issue. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 25, 2016, at 9:35 AM, Jim Sheldon wrote: > > Just found a bug in the keyer memories when programming for PSK/RTTY. The memory loads fine until you send the ..__ (IM) character to terminate transmission and then it locks up as if you had a constant "key down" with a hand key. I was programming memory 4 to call CQ on RTTY when I discovered this. I tried the other memories and got the same results. It never did this on the K3 I used to have so I don't know if it's unique to the K3S or whether it does this on the K3 as well. > > Whoever is handling the FW for the K3/K3S might want to take a look at this as it could get annoying. The anomaly only shows up when programming the memories, not when sending direct with the paddles and the IM character does terminate transmission as it should. It just causes the keyer to hang when the IM character is sent during memory programming. > > Anyone Else notice this? (Can't be RFI as there is no RF output during CW memory programming). Can't call Support as they don't give any help on Beta FW. > > Jim - W0EB > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From nf4l at comcast.net Wed May 25 11:55:36 2016 From: nf4l at comcast.net (Mike Reublin NF4L) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 11:55:36 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S bug in FW Beta 5.46 Keyer Memories In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57754767-7B76-4010-B5AE-79DAA4EE8F34@comcast.net> I'm sure the elves would like to hear about a flaw in a release, beta or not. 73, Mike NF4L > On May 25, 2016, at 9:55 AM, Mike Harris wrote: > > And where is Beta 5.46 hidden? Some of us like to live on the edge. > > Regards, > > Mike VP8NO > > On 25/05/2016 10:35, Jim Sheldon wrote: >> Just found a bug in the keyer memories when programming for PSK/RTTY. >> The memory loads fine until you send the ..__ (IM) character to >> terminate transmission and then it locks up as if you had a constant >> "key down" with a hand key. I was programming memory 4 to call CQ on >> RTTY when I discovered this. I tried the other memories and got the >> same results. It never did this on the K3 I used to have so I don't >> know if it's unique to the K3S or whether it does this on the K3 as well. >> >> Whoever is handling the FW for the K3/K3S might want to take a look at >> this as it could get annoying. The anomaly only shows up when >> programming the memories, not when sending direct with the paddles and >> the IM character does terminate transmission as it should. It just >> causes the keyer to hang when the IM character is sent during memory >> programming. >> >> Anyone Else notice this? (Can't be RFI as there is no RF output during >> CW memory programming). Can't call Support as they don't give any help >> on Beta FW. >> >> Jim - W0EB > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nf4l at comcast.net From jermo at carolinaheli.com Wed May 25 11:57:21 2016 From: jermo at carolinaheli.com (Jerry Moore) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 11:57:21 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] {P3] resale value In-Reply-To: <445A7CCB-BDEF-4D4E-A8A1-7A757A374040@widomaker.com> References: <044f01d1b690$229326f0$67b974d0$@carolinaheli.com> <445A7CCB-BDEF-4D4E-A8A1-7A757A374040@widomaker.com> Message-ID: <048e01d1b69e$20355870$60a00950$@carolinaheli.com> I'd just expect for %80 cost on used gear to be pristine with original boxes, papers, cables..etc.. otherwise the risk is is too high. I'll probably just keep saving or go with LPAN / SDR based solution. There are a few "features of the P3 that need to be added, like ability to use a smart keyboard and using a point/click/tune interface... e.g. mouse support. I can do that now with my Rasperry Pi and an SDR but most SDR software isn't panadapter specific. I'm a gamer so my keyboards are programmable. Why the P3 blocks intelligent keyboards confuses me. Overall I'd prefer to get the P3 because it matches my gear and simplifies my setup. Jerry Moore CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324 http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and Patriotic. -----Original Message----- From: Nr4c [mailto:nr4c at widomaker.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:23 AM To: Jerry Moore Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] {P3] resale value Jerry. It's only worth what you are willing to pay. Making sure you get the cables shouldn't be a big problem. Otherwise I've not heard of many (if any) issues with P3 units since its introduction. And there isn't much to "tinker" with. Elecraft gear is pretty solid and does seem to hold value well. If you think saving 20% will make it fit your budget I'd not hesitate to purchase. For a K3, that's a piece of change ( P3 + KXV3B = $900). Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 25, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Jerry Moore wrote: > > Is it realistic for used P3s to sell for 80% of retail value when they > don't have a warranty, you don't know if they've been tinkered with, > you don't know if they are 100%, and the possibility of not getting a > cable or part that comes with it when you purchase NIB? > > I'm in the market for P3 but the prices being asked for used units > are such I'm looking to just buy new. > > Just asking because I'm not sure if I'm being realistic in my price > expectations or if the sellers are overpricing. I already feel that > Elecraft gear prices are a premium but have been willing to pay the > NIB prices to support a local US company. > > Jerry Moore > CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists > AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324 > http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB > An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, > and Patriotic. > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > nr4c at widomaker.com From w7ox at socal.rr.com Wed May 25 12:04:50 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 09:04:50 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] {P3] resale value In-Reply-To: <445A7CCB-BDEF-4D4E-A8A1-7A757A374040@widomaker.com> References: <044f01d1b690$229326f0$67b974d0$@carolinaheli.com> <445A7CCB-BDEF-4D4E-A8A1-7A757A374040@widomaker.com> Message-ID: <06201d49-6dfa-2998-c181-abb95c96f5df@socal.rr.com> Jerry, I agree with Bill. Not much to tinker with in a P3, you just connect it and use it -- unless you add the SVGA board. And, unlike my K3, the P3 is current production: So far as I know there is no P3s. 73, Phil W7OX On 5/25/16 8:22 AM, Nr4c wrote: > Jerry. It's only worth what you are willing to pay. > > Making sure you get the cables shouldn't be a big problem. Otherwise I've not heard of many (if any) issues with P3 units since its introduction. And there isn't much to "tinker" with. Elecraft gear is pretty solid and does seem to hold value well. If you think saving 20% will make it fit your budget I'd not hesitate to purchase. For a K3, that's a piece of change ( P3 + KXV3B = $900). > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On May 25, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Jerry Moore wrote: >> >> Is it realistic for used P3s to sell for 80% of retail value when they don't >> have a warranty, you don't know if they've been tinkered with, you don't >> know if they are 100%, and the possibility of not getting a cable or part >> that comes with it when you purchase NIB? >> >> I'm in the market for P3 but the prices being asked for used units are such >> I'm looking to just buy new. >> >> Just asking because I'm not sure if I'm being realistic in my price >> expectations or if the sellers are overpricing. I already feel that Elecraft >> gear prices are a premium but have been willing to pay the NIB prices to >> support a local US company. >> >> Jerry Moore >> CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists >> AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324 >> http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB >> An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and >> Patriotic. From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Wed May 25 12:04:32 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 08:04:32 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) Message-ID: <201605251604.u4PG4Zxq013249@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> Johnny, I was actually planning to try doing exactly that: use my K3+432 transverter with KX3-2M. But this is new territory which no one has ventured. First one would need sw to interface the radios, then sw to link to satellite tracking sw, and also a program that would provide both inverting and non-inverting dual band frequency tracking. The UHF radio needs to change frequency at a faster rate than the VHF radio in order to compensate for Doppler. Just linking VFO's will not do it. I'm not a programmer so that would depend on patching together from other sw and I kept putting that off. I had wanted a dual-band mobile radio to replace radios I had sold in buying transverters which don't cover the full band. I figured one with cross-band duplex would get me back with a usable satellite radio (but only FM). There are a couple sats that have linear transponders for SSB/CW use though not in high earth orbit (Heo). That thinking morphed into my acquiring the old FT-736R which adds all-mode operation and CAT. The KX2 got me thinking how nice a dual-band VHF/UHF KX3 would be (doing duplex would add extra nice). Somebody will marry the two Elecraft radios some day for full cross-band duplex. Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 11:33:24 +0000 (UTC) From: Johnny Siu To: Edward R Cole , David Anderson Cc: "Elecraft at mailman.qth.net" Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) Instead of developing a new radio for SAT. ?Can there be a device that can link two elecraft radios for up / downlink of SAT? In the past, CT16 can link Icom IC275 and IC475 to work as a pair. I think this route will save a lot of R&D for a new radio. 73 Johnny VR2XMC 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From dave at nk7z.net Wed May 25 12:57:12 2016 From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 09:57:12 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] {P3] resale value In-Reply-To: <048e01d1b69e$20355870$60a00950$@carolinaheli.com> References: <044f01d1b690$229326f0$67b974d0$@carolinaheli.com> <445A7CCB-BDEF-4D4E-A8A1-7A757A374040@widomaker.com> <048e01d1b69e$20355870$60a00950$@carolinaheli.com> Message-ID: <1464195432.3330.80.camel@nk7z.net> On Wed, 2016-05-25 at 11:57 -0400, Jerry Moore wrote: > I'm a gamer so my keyboards are programmable. Why the P3 blocks > intelligent keyboards confuses me.? I can't either... ?They had to go to extra work to make that happen, so it is not by accident. -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net From dave at nk7z.net Wed May 25 12:55:15 2016 From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 09:55:15 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] {P3] resale value In-Reply-To: <044f01d1b690$229326f0$67b974d0$@carolinaheli.com> References: <044f01d1b690$229326f0$67b974d0$@carolinaheli.com> Message-ID: <1464195315.3330.78.camel@nk7z.net> On Wed, 2016-05-25 at 10:17 -0400, Jerry Moore wrote: > Is it realistic for used P3s to sell for 80% of retail value when they > don't have a warranty, you don't know if they've been tinkered with, > you don't know if they are 100%, and the possibility of not getting a > cable or part that comes with it when you purchase NIB? Yes it is. ?I would have bought used as well, but the cost of a used item was so close to a new item, I decided to go new. The resale value of Elecraft equipment is about 10 to 15 percent higher than most other rigs... ?Which if you look at it from your point of view, buying used you will loose very little money if you decided to sell. Careful purchasing will net you a vary nice rig for less than new cost. ? It's your call if you want to take what inherent risks there are, in used purchases. ?I can say that I would trust the Elecraft crowd here a lot further than any other group though... ?All seem to be a decent sort, and all seem to be straight shooters. ? ? -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Wed May 25 13:18:42 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 10:18:42 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Wireless stereo headset recommendations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5745DE72.40900@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Wed,5/25/2016 5:50 AM, David Anderson via Elecraft wrote: > I am thinking about adding a wireless stereo headset to my KX3 so that I can operate remotely from other parts of my house. Here are a few RF-based pro audio products designed for use by musicians for live performance monitoring. http://www.fullcompass.com/prod/193303-Galaxy-Audio-AS-WSS11T http://www.fullcompass.com/prod/150074-Galaxy-Audio-AS-900 http://www.fullcompass.com/category/Wireless-In-Ear-Monitors-Complete-Systems.html?rewrite_name=Wireless-In-Ear-Monitors-Complete-Systems&sortChange=1&categoryOrder=Price-Low&ipp=24&view=Grid Full Compass is a well-respected audio vendor, and Galaxy is a small but respected US-based pro audio mfr. Shure, Audio-Technica, AKG, and Sennheiser are all good, big pro audio companies. 73, Jim K9YC From jermo at carolinaheli.com Wed May 25 13:14:25 2016 From: jermo at carolinaheli.com (Jerry Moore) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 13:14:25 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] {P3] resale value In-Reply-To: <1464195315.3330.78.camel@nk7z.net> References: <044f01d1b690$229326f0$67b974d0$@carolinaheli.com> <1464195315.3330.78.camel@nk7z.net> Message-ID: <04a601d1b6a8$e4601c80$ad205580$@carolinaheli.com> Thank you for your well thought out response. -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cole Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 12:55 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] {P3] resale value On Wed, 2016-05-25 at 10:17 -0400, Jerry Moore wrote: > Is it realistic for used P3s to sell for 80% of retail value when they > don't have a warranty, you don't know if they've been tinkered with, > you don't know if they are 100%, and the possibility of not getting a > cable or part that comes with it when you purchase NIB? Yes it is. I would have bought used as well, but the cost of a used item was so close to a new item, I decided to go new. The resale value of Elecraft equipment is about 10 to 15 percent higher than most other rigs... Which if you look at it from your point of view, buying used you will loose very little money if you decided to sell. Careful purchasing will net you a vary nice rig for less than new cost. It's your call if you want to take what inherent risks there are, in used purchases. I can say that I would trust the Elecraft crowd here a lot further than any other group though... All seem to be a decent sort, and all seem to be straight shooters. -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jermo at carolinaheli.com From john at kk9a.com Wed May 25 13:45:32 2016 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 13:45:32 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Microkeyer II vs K3s Message-ID: Is the K3S RS232 set to 38400 b? >From HK3W Wed May 25 07:41:45 EDT 2016 The Microham program does not recognize de K3 This is how I have it connected: 1. The Y cable is conected to the K3S ACC port. 2. One of the Y legs goes to the MicroHam's ACC. 3. The other leg of the Y cable goes to the XCVR port on the KAT500. 4. The E8504643 cable goes from the KAT500 (AMP) to the KPA500 AUX1 port. 5. The Microham RS232 cable is connected to the PC port on the P3. 6. The XCVR port on the P3 is connected to the RS232/P3 port on the K3. I have a leftover Y cable as Elecraft sent me 2. I use 38400 bps in baud rate I have K3S + P3 +KAT500+KPA500 Regards Siso HK3W From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Wed May 25 13:47:55 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 10:47:55 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] {P3] resale value In-Reply-To: <044f01d1b690$229326f0$67b974d0$@carolinaheli.com> References: <044f01d1b690$229326f0$67b974d0$@carolinaheli.com> Message-ID: <5745E54B.9010008@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Wed,5/25/2016 7:17 AM, Jerry Moore wrote: > I already feel that Elecraft gear prices are a premium but have been willing to pay the NIB prices to support a local US company. I see it a bit differently. Elecraft products are built, designed, and supported by people in the US, all paid US wages. Unlike Apple, whose products are mfd in China, by people who are paid far less. Elecraft products are sold direct from the factory to the user, eliminating markups by third party sellers, who typically add 20-40% to their cost. And when you call Elecraft for support, you're talking to a real technician at the factory who is a HAM, not someone in a call center reading from a script, and that person is also being paid US wages. As to resale value -- yes, I think hams often think their used stuff is worth a lot more than it is. I wouldn't pay more than about 75% of the current kit price for a used Elecraft product, whether it was factory built or not. 73, Jim K9YC From KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com Wed May 25 13:49:02 2016 From: KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 10:49:02 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) In-Reply-To: <6FB6C3D0-D050-4ABC-BF7B-0AF56C390F12@yahoo.co.uk> References: <201605250438.u4P4c41j025088@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> <6FB6C3D0-D050-4ABC-BF7B-0AF56C390F12@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: Seems that this is a strong argument against a "satellite radio" -- if they launch a new satellite, and it does something different, you might not have the right bands and/or modes built in. General purpose UHF/VHF is a different story. On 5/25/2016 1:43 AM, David Anderson via Elecraft wrote: > We had much better satellites then, in decent orbits like AO-10. So Yaesu in particular brought out lovely expensive duplex radios. Great! However then the linear sats gradually died and were replaced by digital radio sats. Some FM one channel toy sats, but nothing like the old wide linear transponders. From farrerfolks at yahoo.com Wed May 25 13:57:58 2016 From: farrerfolks at yahoo.com (Mel Farrer) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 17:57:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Wireless stereo headset recommendations In-Reply-To: <5745DE72.40900@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <5745DE72.40900@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <379688023.476709.1464199078587.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Don't forget to look at the Jabra GN9350.? Has a great reputation and I use it on my K3 300'+ range. Mel, K6KBE From: Jim Brown To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Wireless stereo headset recommendations On Wed,5/25/2016 5:50 AM, David Anderson via Elecraft wrote: > I am thinking about adding a wireless stereo headset to my KX3 so that I can operate remotely from other parts of my house. Here are a few RF-based pro audio products designed for use by musicians for live performance monitoring. ? http://www.fullcompass.com/prod/193303-Galaxy-Audio-AS-WSS11T http://www.fullcompass.com/prod/150074-Galaxy-Audio-AS-900 http://www.fullcompass.com/category/Wireless-In-Ear-Monitors-Complete-Systems.html?rewrite_name=Wireless-In-Ear-Monitors-Complete-Systems&sortChange=1&categoryOrder=Price-Low&ipp=24&view=Grid Full Compass is a well-respected audio vendor, and Galaxy is a small but respected US-based pro audio mfr. Shure, Audio-Technica, AKG, and Sennheiser are all good, big pro audio companies. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to farrerfolks at yahoo.com From alsopb at comcast.net Wed May 25 14:07:26 2016 From: alsopb at comcast.net (brian) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 18:07:26 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) In-Reply-To: <201605251604.u4PG4Zxq013249@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201605251604.u4PG4Zxq013249@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <5745E9DE.3010001@comcast.net> I seem to recall this was functionality was available way back when (>10 years ago) for a two rig satellite setup. From memory (perhaps faulty): There was a software program which compensated for the Doppler shift with an RS232 link to the downlink radio. No correction was made to the uplink radio. There was also one or more program(s)/hardware board(s) to control the EL-AZ rotors (various outputs so that most rotors could be controlled). I do recall using the downlink Doppler shift compensation program. It worked fine in the CW mode I tested. I abandoned it because it was easy enough to manually tune the radio to follow the Doppler on 70 cm downlinks. Didn't use the rotor control hardware/software with the U100 (clack box) rotors I had. They were easy enough to manually operate. Set the declination rotor, track azimuth in steps for a while, reset declination rotor etc. An available satellite tracking computer program gave the needed elevations/azimuths. "Integration" was an exercise for the user. Some guys did indeed integrate the all the pieces. I found it unnecessary to do so. Biggest pain was waiting for passes of the few useable birds available. Guys interested in something narrow bandwidth modes would perhaps need to refine the old technology or maybe not. Moonbounce programs apparently compensate for Doppler. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 5/25/2016 16:04 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: > Johnny, > > I was actually planning to try doing exactly that: use my K3+432 > transverter with KX3-2M. But this is new territory which no one has > ventured. First one would need sw to interface the radios, then sw to > link to satellite tracking sw, and also a program that would provide > both inverting and non-inverting dual band frequency tracking. The UHF > radio needs to change frequency at a faster rate than the VHF radio in > order to compensate for Doppler. Just linking VFO's will not do it. > > I'm not a programmer so that would depend on patching together from > other sw and I kept putting that off. > I had wanted a dual-band mobile radio to replace radios I had sold in > buying transverters which don't cover the full band. I figured one with > cross-band duplex would get me back with a usable satellite radio (but > only FM). > > There are a couple sats that have linear transponders for SSB/CW use > though not in high earth orbit (Heo). That thinking morphed into my > acquiring the old FT-736R which adds all-mode operation and CAT. > > The KX2 got me thinking how nice a dual-band VHF/UHF KX3 would be (doing > duplex would add extra nice). > > Somebody will marry the two Elecraft radios some day for full cross-band > duplex. > > Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 11:33:24 +0000 (UTC) > From: Johnny Siu > To: Edward R Cole , David Anderson > > Cc: "Elecraft at mailman.qth.net" > Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Satellite Derivative? (Was: Re: The KX2) > > Instead of developing a new radio for SAT. ?Can there be a device that > can link two elecraft radios for up / downlink of SAT? > In the past, CT16 can link Icom IC275 and IC475 to work as a pair. > I think this route will save a lot of R&D for a new radio. > 73 > Johnny VR2XMC > > > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > "Kits made by KL7UW" > Dubus Mag business: > dubususa at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to alsopb at comcast.net From john at kk9a.com Wed May 25 14:08:26 2016 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 14:08:26 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Microkeyer II vs K3s In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Check the internal jumpers. I assume that you assigned a com port and selected K3 38400 in the router. I have four DigiKeyer IIs and I can only get three working with the K3S . The fourth unit worked fine when I previously used it with a Yaesu but I cannot get it to work with my K3S for some reason. John KK9A On 2016-05-25 13:49, Francisco "Siso" Hennessey HK3W wrote: > Yes John, 38400bps > > 2016-05-25 12:45 GMT-05:00 john at kk9a.com : > >> Is the K3S RS232 set to 38400 b? >> >> From HK3W >> Wed May 25 07:41:45 EDT 2016 >> >> The Microham program does not recognize de K3 >> >> This is how I have it connected: >> >> 1. The Y cable is conected to the K3S ACC port. >> 2. One of the Y legs goes to the MicroHam's ACC. >> 3. The other leg of the Y cable goes to the XCVR port on the KAT500. >> 4. The E8504643 cable goes from the KAT500 (AMP) to the KPA500 AUX1 port. >> 5. The Microham RS232 cable is connected to the PC port on the P3. >> 6. The XCVR port on the P3 is connected to the RS232/P3 port on the K3. >> >> I have a leftover Y cable as Elecraft sent me 2. >> I use 38400 bps in baud rate >> I have K3S + P3 +KAT500+KPA500 >> Regards >> Siso HK3W >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft [1] >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm [2] >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net [3] >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html [4] >> Message delivered to hk3w.inf at gmail.com > > -- > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > FRANCISCO "SISO" HENNESSEY - H K 3 W --- > > ARRL DXCC CARD CHECKER > > DXCC HR - DXCC CW - DXCC RTTY -DXCC SSB - 8BDXCC - | Skype: siso-hk3w | TWITTER: HTTP://TWITTER.COM/HK3W [5] | > > MEMBER OF: ARRL (LM) - LOTW - Links: ------ [1] http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft [2] http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm [3] http://www.qsl.net [4] http://www.qsl.net/donate.html [5] http://twitter.com/HK3W From K2TK at att.net Wed May 25 15:00:56 2016 From: K2TK at att.net (Bob) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 15:00:56 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] {P3] resale value In-Reply-To: <5745E54B.9010008@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <044f01d1b690$229326f0$67b974d0$@carolinaheli.com> <5745E54B.9010008@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <27c3d72e-b878-368b-a6b5-a48df37248a1@att.net> Amen! I also feel I got a Premium product too and has been worth the price. I bought my K3 used and got about a 25% savings. I never felt that Elecraft support treated me any different than an original purchaser, that was a plus and helped lead me down road to the complete K-line purchase, plus KRC, and 2 XV's. Looking back, no regrets. I agree that the value of factory built is NIL. Mine was but since then as I added items it well may have been a kit as it has been apart so many times. K-Pod on order so it will be apart again for the power mod as soon as published. The screws may be worn out soon. Going to the refrigerator for another glass of Kool Aid..... 73, Bob K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR On 5/25/2016 1:47 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > On Wed,5/25/2016 7:17 AM, Jerry Moore wrote: >> I already feel that Elecraft gear prices are a premium but have been willing >> to pay the NIB prices to support a local US company. > > I see it a bit differently. Elecraft products are built, designed, and > supported by people in the US, all paid US wages. Unlike Apple, whose products > are mfd in China, by people who are paid far less. Elecraft products are sold > direct from the factory to the user, eliminating markups by third party > sellers, who typically add 20-40% to their cost. And when you call Elecraft > for support, you're talking to a real technician at the factory who is a HAM, > not someone in a call center reading from a script, and that person is also > being paid US wages. > > As to resale value -- yes, I think hams often think their used stuff is worth > a lot more than it is. I wouldn't pay more than about 75% of the current kit > price for a used Elecraft product, whether it was factory built or not. > > 73, Jim K9YC From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Wed May 25 15:55:14 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 20:55:14 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Wireless stereo headset recommendations In-Reply-To: <379688023.476709.1464199078587.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <5745DE72.40900@audiosystemsgroup.com> <379688023.476709.1464199078587.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5C352B14-B868-48E3-892D-B636568FDADD@yahoo.co.uk> Thanks both. I am looking for something that does stereo headphones as well as microphone but not Bluetooth, probably 868 MHz or something like that. I can find plenty that use USB or optical or use Bluetooth, but have not found exactly what I need yet. Closest is a mono wireless speaker mic for CB which even has PTT. Not sure about though ... I will check out the Jabra now. David Anderson GM4JJJ > On 25 May 2016, at 18:57, Mel Farrer via Elecraft wrote: > > Don't forget to look at the Jabra GN9350. Has a great reputation and I use it on my K3 300'+ range. > Mel, K6KBE > > > From: Jim Brown > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 10:18 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Wireless stereo headset recommendations > >> On Wed,5/25/2016 5:50 AM, David Anderson via Elecraft wrote: >> I am thinking about adding a wireless stereo headset to my KX3 so that I can operate remotely from other parts of my house. > > Here are a few RF-based pro audio products designed for use by musicians > for live performance monitoring. > > http://www.fullcompass.com/prod/193303-Galaxy-Audio-AS-WSS11T > > http://www.fullcompass.com/prod/150074-Galaxy-Audio-AS-900 > > http://www.fullcompass.com/category/Wireless-In-Ear-Monitors-Complete-Systems.html?rewrite_name=Wireless-In-Ear-Monitors-Complete-Systems&sortChange=1&categoryOrder=Price-Low&ipp=24&view=Grid > > Full Compass is a well-respected audio vendor, and Galaxy is a small but > respected US-based pro audio mfr. Shure, Audio-Technica, AKG, and > Sennheiser are all good, big pro audio companies. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to farrerfolks at yahoo.com > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk From dave at nk7z.net Wed May 25 16:19:14 2016 From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 13:19:14 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/P3: RX; Macro command behavior change Message-ID: <1464207554.3330.114.camel@nk7z.net> Hi, I have a set of macros stored in the P3. ?One of them is "RX;" ?Another is a CQ message, a 5NN, or my call. ?I trigger them via a keyboard, or via a Genovation Keypad connected to the P3. In the past, the RX; command, (sent via Genovation, or Keyboard), would drop the K3 into receive mode no matter what was happening, no matter how it was triggered, no matter what was going on. ?That behavior seems to have changed recently. Today I noticed that if I send a CW message via the macro method, (loading the the message via a trigger from the P3), when I issue an RX; command in the middle of the transmit sequence, nothing happens, (the radio continues to transmit), if on the other hand, the message was triggered using one of the K3 memories, and I issue the RX; command, it stops dead in it's tracks, as it used to do, and as I believe it is intended to do. ? In the past the RX; command used to behave exactly the same for either a macro generated message, or a message sent via K3 memory. ?This behavior appears to have changed. ? Is this by intent, or a software issue with the last update? ?This began after the last update. To reproduce the problem perform the following steps: 1. ?Load up a message into a memory of the P3. 2. ?Load up an RX; command into a memory of the P3. 3. ?Send the message by triggering the P3. 4. ?While the message is transmitting, issue a trigger to send the RX;? ? ? command. 5. ?The old behavior was to stop the transmit. ?The new behavior is to? ? ? ignore the RX; command, and continue until the message is complete.? ? ? It is as if the RX; command was never issued. 6. ?Now, trigger a message by pressing one of the M buttons on the K3. 7. ?While it is transmitting, issue the RX; via the P3 trigger. ?The K3? ? ? stops, as it should, and has in the past.? Could Elecraft comment on this please. ?Is it an issue, and if so, will it be corrected in a future software release? ? I use the RX; in this manner because-- if I am in a pileup and sending my call over and over again, I sometimes want to stop transmitting instantly, because I heard something, or I mis hit a trigger. ? In the past I just issued an RX; via the P3. ?Now that fails if I have triggered my call sign via the P3, but works if the memory is used to send my call. --? 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net From lists at subich.com Wed May 25 16:20:56 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 16:20:56 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Microkeyer II vs K3s In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <03a83e32-5a0d-e532-e51f-2b1bf8a286f2@subich.com> On 5/25/2016 2:08 PM, john at kk9a.com wrote: > > Check the internal jumpers. The only internal jumpers in microKEYER II control bias to the front and back mic jacks. > The fourth unit worked fine when I previously used it with a Yaesu > but I cannot get it to work with my K3S for some reason. Check your cables - particularly the RJ45 connector on the *Elecraft* supplied E980287 RJ45 to DE9 (9 pin female) cable. I have seen several reports of intermittent connection in the RJ45 plug/jack. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/25/2016 2:08 PM, john at kk9a.com wrote: > > > Check the internal jumpers. I assume that you assigned a com port and > selected K3 38400 in the router. I have four DigiKeyer IIs and I can > only get three working with the K3S . The fourth unit worked fine when I > previously used it with a Yaesu but I cannot get it to work with my K3S > for some reason. > > John KK9A > > On 2016-05-25 13:49, Francisco "Siso" Hennessey HK3W wrote: > >> Yes John, 38400bps >> >> 2016-05-25 12:45 GMT-05:00 john at kk9a.com : >> >>> Is the K3S RS232 set to 38400 b? >>> >>> From HK3W >>> Wed May 25 07:41:45 EDT 2016 >>> >>> The Microham program does not recognize de K3 >>> >>> This is how I have it connected: >>> >>> 1. The Y cable is conected to the K3S ACC port. >>> 2. One of the Y legs goes to the MicroHam's ACC. >>> 3. The other leg of the Y cable goes to the XCVR port on the KAT500. >>> 4. The E8504643 cable goes from the KAT500 (AMP) to the KPA500 AUX1 port. >>> 5. The Microham RS232 cable is connected to the PC port on the P3. >>> 6. The XCVR port on the P3 is connected to the RS232/P3 port on the K3. >>> >>> I have a leftover Y cable as Elecraft sent me 2. >>> I use 38400 bps in baud rate >>> I have K3S + P3 +KAT500+KPA500 >>> Regards >>> Siso HK3W >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft [1] >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm [2] >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net [3] >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html [4] >>> Message delivered to hk3w.inf at gmail.com >> >> -- >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> >> FRANCISCO "SISO" HENNESSEY - H K 3 W --- >> >> ARRL DXCC CARD CHECKER >> >> DXCC HR - DXCC CW - DXCC RTTY -DXCC SSB - 8BDXCC - | Skype: siso-hk3w | TWITTER: HTTP://TWITTER.COM/HK3W [5] | >> >> MEMBER OF: ARRL (LM) - LOTW - > > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > [2] http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > [3] http://www.qsl.net > [4] http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > [5] http://twitter.com/HK3W > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to lists at subich.com > From jbammi at mac.com Wed May 25 16:28:21 2016 From: jbammi at mac.com (Jwahar Bammi) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 16:28:21 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Wireless stereo headset recommendations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57460AE5.7040404@mac.com> David, Can recommend that you look at the PigRemote from Pignology, on their website and several videos on youtube about details http://pignology.net/pigremote/ 73 de kc1ccr -- >I am thinking about adding a wireless stereo headset to my KX3 so that I can operate remotely from other parts of my house. I don't want a>Bluetooth headset as the range is fairly short. There are other wireless headsets that use UHF I believe that have a much better range. > .... From marrotte at verizon.net Wed May 25 17:23:58 2016 From: marrotte at verizon.net (Roger Marrotte) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 17:23:58 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX2] Received KX2 serial #99 today Message-ID: <001d01d1b6cb$c0686b20$41394160$@verizon.net> I received KX2 serial number 99 today in the mail. So far I've had time to unpack it and listen on a few bands. It looks just like a little KX3. Hopefully tomorrow I'll have time to go out in the yard, throw a wire up in a tree and try it out. First impression is that it looks and feels really solid. I can't wait for the KXPD2 to come in. Roger, W1EM From kt5d at charter.net Wed May 25 17:30:46 2016 From: kt5d at charter.net (Gee) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 17:30:46 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 pricing Message-ID: I disagree that factory built value is nil. When I bought my K3 I was told factory builds went through a 24 hour burn in, and then checked for specs. That to me is value. If a used item is 75% or more of new item pricing, the warranty alone decides for me to buy new. Sent from my iPad From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Wed May 25 17:34:46 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (wickedbeernut) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 14:34:46 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K3/P3: RX; Macro command behavior change In-Reply-To: <1464207554.3330.114.camel@nk7z.net> References: <1464207554.3330.114.camel@nk7z.net> Message-ID: <1464212086274-7618002.post@n2.nabble.com> The RX command can't be used in CW mode with the K2, /RX (Receive Mode; SET only) SET format: RX; (no data). Terminates transmit in all modes, including message play and repeating messages. RX/TX status is available via the TQ command and is also included in the IF response. *Note: RX is not usable in CW mode in the K2.*/ Esc is a P3 command, /Pressing Esc stops the transmission and clears any unsent text./ Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-RX-Macro-command-behavior-change-tp7617997p7618002.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Wed May 25 17:41:19 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 22:41:19 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Wireless stereo headset recommendations In-Reply-To: <57460AE5.7040404@mac.com> References: <57460AE5.7040404@mac.com> Message-ID: Thanks, I don't have Ethernet in my shack though. Just Wifi. Surely someone must make a bidirectional wireless headset at under $80? 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 25 May 2016, at 21:28, Jwahar Bammi wrote: > > David, > Can recommend that you look at the PigRemote from Pignology, on their website and several videos on youtube about details > > http://pignology.net/pigremote/ > > 73 de kc1ccr > -- > >> I am thinking about adding a wireless stereo headset to my KX3 so that I can operate remotely from other parts of my house. I don't want a>Bluetooth headset as the range is fairly short. There are other wireless headsets that use UHF I believe that have a much better range. > >> .... > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk From drunkkennedy at gmail.com Wed May 25 18:00:57 2016 From: drunkkennedy at gmail.com (JJ) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 18:00:57 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] WTB K3 Message-ID: On 5/24/2016 12:29 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > > Have you considered adding a KXPA100 to your KX3? It's perfectly > integrated, no taking it off line or putting it on line -- just turn the > power knob. >That's exactly what I did. >The KX3 power display automatically displays 0-50-100 watts vs. -0-5-10 >watts. The KX3's ATU is bypassed, and the KXPA100's ATU does the tuning >when you tap the KX3's AATU button. >The KXP100 is tightly integrated with the KX3, and they are a joy to use >together. >-- >73, Mike N4CF No not seriously. The idea was to partially fund the K3 with the sale of the KX3. A new KXPA100-K and ATU come in at just under $1200. There's a glut of used HF rigs on the market and I regularly see KX3's for sale. Selling mine at what I'd like to get to make the K3 a reality may be difficult at this time. It's a buyer's market for used KX3's. I may have to rethink what I wanted to do. Jon WS1K From vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk Wed May 25 18:33:43 2016 From: vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk (Johnny Siu) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 22:33:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 User Group is now the KX User Group In-Reply-To: <316bce7b-cbdf-6dc4-f530-0a095579dc17@mebtel.net> References: <316bce7b-cbdf-6dc4-f530-0a095579dc17@mebtel.net> Message-ID: <1437946548.528703.1464215623466.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I once gave my user comments about an after market heat sink for my own KX3 in a KX3 yahoo group. However, I was banned from that KX3 yahoo group with an allegation of advertising products. Ironically, I have no business relationship with that particular heat sink manufacturer but merely mentioned my user comments. Hence, I quit that KX3 yahoo group without hesitation. ?It was my personal experience in the past and I am not going to persuade you to join the KX3 yahoo group below or not. Hopefully, the KX3 yahoo group experienced by me in the past is NOT the one mentioned below. 73 Johnny VR2XMC ???? Howard Hoyt ???? elecraft at mailman.qth.net ????? 2016?05?25? (??) 8:48 PM ??? [Elecraft] KX3 User Group is now the KX User Group Hi all, In response to requests from both Elecraft and new KX2 owners we have morphed the Yahoo KX3 User Group into the Elecraft KX User Group.? This is in keeping with Elecraft's division between their portable KX product line and their desktop K line. We welcome the owners of any KX1, KX2, KX3, KXPA100, PX3, or accessory for any of these rigs to join with other like-minded Elecraft owners.? We are over 5000 members strong and growing fast! Chances are if you have a question about one of these rigs, there are many others who have answered that question in our group.? The Yahoo KX User Group is supported by both Elecraft personnel and others allied with Elecraft, so updates and beta firmwares are announced there. To join, go to: https://groups.yahoo.com/KX3 Click on the "+ Join Group" button. Cheers & 73, Howard Hoyt - WA4PSC Yahoo KX User Group Moderator ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk From n6kr at elecraft.com Wed May 25 18:20:03 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 15:20:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Why the KX2 and KX3 are not in the "QRP radios" category at eHam.net Message-ID: <85ACBFB3-3E52-4FBD-8979-57C49BC77422@elecraft.com> Hi all, Back when the KX3 first came out, customers doing the initial product reviews created two different categories for it: one under "QRP radios," and the other under "Transceivers: HF...." We contacted eHam and argued, successfully, that the KX3 belonged under "Transceivers: HF...." Our reasoning was that when the KX3 was paired with a KXPA100, they formed a 100-W transceiver. The two are 100% integrated, with all control of the amp and its 100-W ATU originating from the rig. In addition, the KX3 is a 10-watt radio (now 15 watts, on most bands), which puts it outside the traditional QRP-radio definition of 5 watts. (I think of it as "medium power," FWIW.) Since the KX2 is also a 10 watt radio that can become a 100 watt radio with the addition of the KXPA100, the same logic applies. So you'll find both rigs in the normal HF transceivers category. There are some reviews already, posted by a few of our field testers who have had over two months of experience with the rig. Most are also well-known SOTA and ultralight backpacking operators. We were fortunate that they were willing to give the new rig a serious shake-down. 73, Wayne N6KR From ppauly at gmail.com Wed May 25 18:44:31 2016 From: ppauly at gmail.com (Peter Pauly) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 18:44:31 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2: possible to use both a KXPA100 amp and connect to a computer via USB? Message-ID: It seems, reading the manual, that both the amp and the computer connection use the same ACC port on the radio. Is there any way to use both a computer and the amp at the same time? From n6kr at elecraft.com Wed May 25 19:10:08 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 16:10:08 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Programmer's Reference now updated with KX2 command details Message-ID: <0007168E-716B-484F-AFA3-2EF43B14F9D7@elecraft.com> The Elecraft K3/K3S/KX3 programmer's reference has now been updated to cover the KX2. You can download it at: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3S&K3&KX3&KX2%20Pgmrs%20Ref,%20F8.pdf Using information in this reference, you'll be able to write your own KX2 remote-control programs. There are over 100 commands available, covering all aspects of the radio's operation. For example, you can set the band (BN command), frequency of VFO A or B (FA, FB), mode (MD), filter bandwidth (BW), AF gain (AG), keyer speed (KS), and many other parameters. You can also switch to transmit (TX) or receive (RX), send CW messages (KY ), simulate tapping or holding specific switches (SWT/SWH), and read back the contents of the VFO A and B displays (DS and DB). Developers who would like to add the KX2 to their list of supported rigs will find that the KX2's command set is very similar to the KX3's. The primary difference is in the menu entries and switch-emulation commands. 73, Wayne N6KR From edouard at lafargue.name Wed May 25 19:12:16 2016 From: edouard at lafargue.name (Edouard Lafargue) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 16:12:16 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] Programmer's Reference now updated with KX2 command details In-Reply-To: <0007168E-716B-484F-AFA3-2EF43B14F9D7@elecraft.com> References: <0007168E-716B-484F-AFA3-2EF43B14F9D7@elecraft.com> Message-ID: Excellent, this is just what I was missing to release Wizkers:Radio with KX2 support, release coming up before the week-end if all goes well :) forum.wizkers.io Ed W6ELA On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com [KX3] < KX3-noreply at yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > The Elecraft K3/K3S/KX3 programmer's reference has now been updated to > cover the KX2. You can download it at: > > http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3S&K3&KX3&KX2%20Pgmrs%20Ref,%20F8.pdf > > Using information in this reference, you'll be able to write your own KX2 > remote-control programs. There are over 100 commands available, covering > all aspects of the radio's operation. > > For example, you can set the band (BN command), frequency of VFO A or B > (FA, FB), mode (MD), filter bandwidth (BW), AF gain (AG), keyer speed (KS), > and many other parameters. You can also switch to transmit (TX) or receive > (RX), send CW messages (KY ), simulate tapping or holding specific > switches (SWT/SWH), and read back the contents of the VFO A and B displays > (DS and DB). > > Developers who would like to add the KX2 to their list of supported rigs > will find that the KX2's command set is very similar to the KX3's. The > primary difference is in the menu entries and switch-emulation commands. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > __._,_.___ > ------------------------------ > Posted by: Wayne Burdick > ------------------------------ > Reply via web post > > ? Reply to sender > > ? Reply to group > > ? Start a New Topic > > ? Messages in this topic > > (1) > ------------------------------ > Have you tried the highest rated email app? > With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email > app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your > inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email > again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. > ------------------------------ > Visit Your Group > > > - New Members > > 69 > - New Photos > > 2 > > [image: Yahoo! Groups] > > ? Privacy ? > Unsubscribe ? Terms > of Use > > . > > __,_._,___ > From n6kr at elecraft.com Wed May 25 19:35:12 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 16:35:12 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2: possible to use both a KXPA100 amp and connect to a computer via USB? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The amp is connected *between* the computer and the radio. This is fully covered in the KXPA100 manual. 73, Wayne N6KR On May 25, 2016, at 3:44 PM, Peter Pauly wrote: > It seems, reading the manual, that both the amp and the computer connection > use the same ACC port on the radio. Is there any way to use both a computer > and the amp at the same time? > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From matt.vk2rq at gmail.com Wed May 25 19:36:29 2016 From: matt.vk2rq at gmail.com (Matt Maguire) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 23:36:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KX2: possible to use both a KXPA100 amp and connect to a computer via USB? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You can use both the AMP and your PC using a daisy-chain topology. Connect your PC to the amp and your amp to the KX2. The amp will forward on any KX2 commands it receives from the PC. 73, Matt VK2RQ On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 3:46 PM -0700, "Peter Pauly" wrote: It seems, reading the manual, that both the amp and the computer connection use the same ACC port on the radio. Is there any way to use both a computer and the amp at the same time? ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to matt.vk2rq at gmail.com From gdanner12 at gmail.com Wed May 25 20:26:23 2016 From: gdanner12 at gmail.com (Gmail - George) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 20:26:23 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 pricing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <32A9B11F6FD24D09A48032A596BCF740@OfficeDeskTop> Maybe Elecraft can weigh-in about the "Burn-In Time" for the boards used in the kits. I have all kits and suspect that my Elecrafts are actually as good as factory except they were assembled by a rank amateur (Elecraftwise). I do know that I had no qualms about modify the filters or motherboard for the recent low freq operation; because I knew how to disassemble my K3. If I ever have to trouble shoot any of the K-Line or KX3, I know where to look once I get the schematic out! When I first went from Kenmore to Elecraft, the availability of the kit made it a know brainer to go to Elecraft. The customer service and firmware & hardware updates have been the icing on my Elecraft cake. 73 George AI4VZ -----Original Message----- From: Gee I disagree that factory built value is nil. When I bought my K3 I was told factory builds went through a 24 hour burn in, and then checked for specs. That to me is value. If a used item is 75% or more of new item pricing, the warranty alone decides for me to buy new. From vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk Wed May 25 20:33:30 2016 From: vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk (Johnny Siu) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 00:33:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] P3 pricing In-Reply-To: <32A9B11F6FD24D09A48032A596BCF740@OfficeDeskTop> References: <32A9B11F6FD24D09A48032A596BCF740@OfficeDeskTop> Message-ID: <757607671.534658.1464222810291.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hello George, I am on your side. ?It has been Elecraft's promise that their kit is as good as the assembled one. ?In addition, they will back up all kit builders to ensure their success and up to factory specifications. ?I built a number of K2, KX1 and K3 on behalf of some hams (visual impaired) in the past. 73 Johnny VR2XMC ???? Gmail - George ???? Elecraft at mailman.qth.net ????? 2016?05?26? (??) 8:26 AM ??? Re: [Elecraft] P3 pricing Maybe Elecraft can weigh-in about the "Burn-In Time" for the boards used in the kits. I have all kits and suspect that my Elecrafts are actually as good as factory except they were assembled by a rank amateur (Elecraftwise). I do know that I had no qualms about modify the filters or motherboard for the recent low freq operation; because I knew how to disassemble my K3. If I ever have to trouble shoot any of the K-Line or KX3, I know where to look once I get the schematic out! When I first went from Kenmore to Elecraft, the availability of the kit made it a know brainer to go to Elecraft. The customer service and firmware & hardware updates have been the icing on my Elecraft cake. 73 George AI4VZ -----Original Message----- From: Gee I disagree that factory built value is nil. When I bought my K3 I was told factory builds went through a 24 hour burn in, and then checked for specs. That to me is value. If a used item is 75% or more of new item pricing, the warranty alone decides for me to buy new. From mpilgrim at bellsouth.net Wed May 25 20:47:19 2016 From: mpilgrim at bellsouth.net (mjpilgrim) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 17:47:19 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KAt100 power on question Message-ID: <1464223639192-7618014.post@n2.nabble.com> I recently purchased a used KAT100. Not sure how to interpret a possible failing condition at Power UP time. Stupid Question: If I simply connect 12VDC to the DC power input jack on the KAT100 (without the K2 physically connected), should I see the lights eliminated on the KAT100? Reason I ask is because at one time during my initial hookup I seem to recall the lights on, but now they are not. Don't know if possibly my interface cable had a shorted connection, or what. Nonetheless, before I re-cable and try again, I just needed to ask if I might have a problem in which the lights do not come on. Upon close inspection of the interface cable I think I located a shorted connection at the KAT100 connection. I removed that shorted condition but I feel hesitant to plug in a try the operational status of the setup. Can anyone please tell me if the KAT100 lights illuminate when the 12VDC power is connected, or must the unit be calbed to the K2? Thanks, -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KAt100-power-on-question-tp7618014.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From b.denley at comcast.net Wed May 25 20:51:02 2016 From: b.denley at comcast.net (Brian Denley) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 20:51:02 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KAt100 power on question In-Reply-To: <1464223639192-7618014.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1464223639192-7618014.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <74F78CFA-D6EE-433C-9EAA-AC4EBD05F159@comcast.net> Made the same mistake. You need both power cables hooked up: one to the KAT100 and one to the K2. You can use a 'Y' cable to power both. Brian KB1VBF Sent from my iPad > On May 25, 2016, at 8:47 PM, mjpilgrim wrote: > > I recently purchased a used KAT100. Not sure how to interpret a possible > failing condition at Power UP time. Stupid Question: If I simply connect > 12VDC to the DC power input jack on the KAT100 (without the K2 physically > connected), should I see the lights eliminated on the KAT100? Reason I ask > is because at one time during my initial hookup I seem to recall the lights > on, but now they are not. Don't know if possibly my interface cable had a > shorted connection, or what. Nonetheless, before I re-cable and try again, > I just needed to ask if I might have a problem in which the lights do not > come on. Upon close inspection of the interface cable I think I located a > shorted connection at the KAT100 connection. I removed that shorted > condition but I feel hesitant to plug in a try the operational status of the > setup. Can anyone please tell me if the KAT100 lights illuminate when the > 12VDC power is connected, or must the unit be calbed to the K2? > > Thanks, > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KAt100-power-on-question-tp7618014.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to b.denley at comcast.net From donwilh at embarqmail.com Wed May 25 21:25:52 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 21:25:52 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KAt100 power on question In-Reply-To: <1464223639192-7618014.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1464223639192-7618014.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: The KAT100 needs both the 12 volt power connection *and* the 12CTRL signal from the K2 to power itself on. So yes, you need the control cable plugged from the base K2 (or KPA100) to the KAT100 before you will see any lights. The control cable is shown in the KAT100 manual. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/25/2016 8:47 PM, mjpilgrim wrote: > I recently purchased a used KAT100. Not sure how to interpret a possible > failing condition at Power UP time. Stupid Question: If I simply connect > 12VDC to the DC power input jack on the KAT100 (without the K2 physically > connected), should I see the lights eliminated on the KAT100? Reason I ask > is because at one time during my initial hookup I seem to recall the lights > on, but now they are not. Don't know if possibly my interface cable had a > shorted connection, or what. Nonetheless, before I re-cable and try again, > I just needed to ask if I might have a problem in which the lights do not > come on. Upon close inspection of the interface cable I think I located a > shorted connection at the KAT100 connection. I removed that shorted > condition but I feel hesitant to plug in a try the operational status of the > setup. Can anyone please tell me if the KAT100 lights illuminate when the > 12VDC power is connected, or must the unit be calbed to the K2? > > From kx4o at hamradio.me Wed May 25 22:40:19 2016 From: kx4o at hamradio.me (John) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 22:40:19 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2... and what she said Message-ID: <57466213.2050909@hamradio.me> Sorry folks, but you knew this picture had to come sooner or later... https://imgflip.com/i/14s8ap John, kx4o From km6cq at km6cq.com Wed May 25 23:45:33 2016 From: km6cq at km6cq.com (Dan Baker) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 20:45:33 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] In case you missed it. Message-ID: This is good. https://youtu.be/kiuO0ddcJFQ -- KM6CQ Dan Baker From ron at cobi.biz Thu May 26 01:14:17 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 22:14:17 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] In case you missed it. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001401d1b70d$74057e70$5c107b50$@biz> Well done adaptaton, although for some of us of a "certain age" the humor is limited by the memories of that era and that war. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dan Baker Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 8:46 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] In case you missed it. This is good. https://youtu.be/kiuO0ddcJFQ -- KM6CQ Dan Baker From kk5f at earthlink.net Thu May 26 02:31:28 2016 From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 02:31:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Elecraft] In case you missed it. Message-ID: <8163268.1464244288925.JavaMail.wam@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Ron, you had more courage than I did to open a link in a posting that looked like 100-percent spam...or much worse. Such a posting with a link so vaguely and suspiciously described is high school kid stuff. I looked to see what you were addressing. The excerpt with faux subtitles is from the 2004 German film "Der Untergang" ("Downfall" in English), a most excellently-made historical film. But it has long been a banal cliche to use this excerpt with many different allegedly humorous but always sophomoric subtitles. So...note to list members...the link in the original posting takes you to an "angry Hitler" rant from "Der Untergang" that is subtitled to have the KX3 and QRP as its subject. Ha Ha. Mike / KK5F -----Original Message----- >From: Ron D'Eau Claire >Sent: May 26, 2016 12:14 AM > >Well done adaptaton, although for some of us of a "certain age" the humor is >limited by the memories of that era and that war. > >73, Ron AC7AC > >-----Original Message----- >From: Elecraft On Behalf Of Dan Baker >Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 8:46 PM > >This is good. >https://youtu.be/kiuO0ddcJFQ > >KM6CQ >Dan Baker From M0XDF at Alphadene.co.uk Thu May 26 03:55:29 2016 From: M0XDF at Alphadene.co.uk (David Ferrington, M0XDF) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 08:55:29 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] In case you missed it. In-Reply-To: <8163268.1464244288925.JavaMail.wam@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <8163268.1464244288925.JavaMail.wam@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <435EB509-6F69-4F33-9F70-3708EE6961FC@Alphadene.co.uk> Yes, personally, I find it (them) very funny. There is another one about DX and QSL cards (but not in a position to find it at present). -73 de M0XDF (from my iPhone) > On 26 May 2016, at 07:31, Mike Morrow wrote: > > Ron, you had more courage than I did to open a link in a posting that looked like 100-percent spam...or much worse. Such a posting with a link so vaguely and suspiciously described is high school kid stuff. > > I looked to see what you were addressing. The excerpt with faux subtitles is from the 2004 German film "Der Untergang" ("Downfall" in English), a most excellently-made historical film. But it has long been a banal cliche to use this excerpt with many different allegedly humorous but always sophomoric subtitles. > > So...note to list members...the link in the original posting takes you to an "angry Hitler" rant from "Der Untergang" that is subtitled to have the KX3 and QRP as its subject. Ha Ha. > > Mike / KK5F > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Ron D'Eau Claire >> Sent: May 26, 2016 12:14 AM >> >> Well done adaptaton, although for some of us of a "certain age" the humor is >> limited by the memories of that era and that war. >> >> 73, Ron AC7AC >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Elecraft On Behalf Of Dan Baker >> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 8:46 PM >> >> This is good. >> https://youtu.be/kiuO0ddcJFQ >> >> KM6CQ >> Dan Baker > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to m0xdf at alphadene.co.uk From d.cutter at ntlworld.com Thu May 26 03:58:50 2016 From: d.cutter at ntlworld.com (David Cutter) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 08:58:50 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] In case you missed it. In-Reply-To: <8163268.1464244288925.JavaMail.wam@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <8163268.1464244288925.JavaMail.wam@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <485297260D8541838F0AA2C2D2D4F3D3@DavidPC> I was recently infected by a bad dose of ransomwear. I don't know it's source but it could easily have been something I incautiously opened - I don't think so, but.. I tell my friends to always use the BCC function and if they don't I won't open their male anymore. I didn't open that link just in case. Big message - do frequent back-ups *and disconnect your back-up drive*. David G3UNA > Ron, you had more courage than I did to open a link in a posting that > looked like 100-percent spam...or much worse. Such a posting with a link > so vaguely and suspiciously described is high school kid stuff. > > I looked to see what you were addressing. The excerpt with faux subtitles > is from the 2004 German film "Der Untergang" ("Downfall" in English), a > most excellently-made historical film. But it has long been a banal > cliche to use this excerpt with many different allegedly humorous but > always sophomoric subtitles. > > So...note to list members...the link in the original posting takes you to > an "angry Hitler" rant from "Der Untergang" that is subtitled to have the > KX3 and QRP as its subject. Ha Ha. > > Mike / KK5F > From mike.harris at horizon.co.fk Thu May 26 10:14:15 2016 From: mike.harris at horizon.co.fk (Mike Harris) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 11:14:15 -0300 Subject: [Elecraft] Headset Message-ID: Hi, If I remember correctly the Koss SB45 headset has been offered as a suitable substitute for the K3 weapon of choice the Yamaha CM500. Any experience out there? My much used CM500 are starting to shed the leatherette covering and the foam inside the cavities is wearing away. CM500 can be rather difficult to source. Regards, Mike VP8NO From w1az at comcast.net Thu May 26 11:04:35 2016 From: w1az at comcast.net (Bernie Gardner) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 11:04:35 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FS: K1-2 Message-ID: <57471083.2080103@comcast.net> I would like to sell a K1-2 (sn 02472) with 20m and 80m bands. The radio includes the internal antenna tuner and backlight. It also includes the KTS1 wide range tilt stand which helps in positioning the radio. (The stand is no longer available from Elecraft.) I built the radio several years ago but it has had limited use. It is in excellent condition and works well. Original cost was $458. I'm asking $335 (including insured priority mail shipping). Please contact off-list Bernie Gardner W1AZ -- Sent from Postbox From ron at cobi.biz Thu May 26 11:22:19 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 08:22:19 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] In case you missed it. In-Reply-To: <8163268.1464244288925.JavaMail.wam@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <8163268.1464244288925.JavaMail.wam@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <005901d1b762$652003d0$2f600b70$@biz> Never click on an unknown hyperlink. In this case I copied it and searched youtube for it manually. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Morrow Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:31 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] In case you missed it. Ron, you had more courage than I did to open a link in a posting that looked like 100-percent spam...or much worse. Such a posting with a link so vaguely and suspiciously described is high school kid stuff. I looked to see what you were addressing. The excerpt with faux subtitles is from the 2004 German film "Der Untergang" ("Downfall" in English), a most excellently-made historical film. But it has long been a banal cliche to use this excerpt with many different allegedly humorous but always sophomoric subtitles. So...note to list members...the link in the original posting takes you to an "angry Hitler" rant from "Der Untergang" that is subtitled to have the KX3 and QRP as its subject. Ha Ha. Mike / KK5F From va3mw at portcredit.net Thu May 26 11:33:32 2016 From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 11:33:32 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] In case you missed it. In-Reply-To: <005901d1b762$652003d0$2f600b70$@biz> References: <8163268.1464244288925.JavaMail.wam@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <005901d1b762$652003d0$2f600b70$@biz> Message-ID: I open links I am concerned about on one of tablets as things are very well sandboxed. But, not clicking is never a bad practice. Mike va3mw On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > Never click on an unknown hyperlink. In this case I copied it and searched > youtube for it manually. > > 73, Ron AC7AC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike > Morrow > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:31 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] In case you missed it. > > Ron, you had more courage than I did to open a link in a posting that > looked > like 100-percent spam...or much worse. Such a posting with a link so > vaguely and suspiciously described is high school kid stuff. > > I looked to see what you were addressing. The excerpt with faux subtitles > is from the 2004 German film "Der Untergang" ("Downfall" in English), a > most > excellently-made historical film. But it has long been a banal cliche to > use this excerpt with many different allegedly humorous but always > sophomoric subtitles. > > So...note to list members...the link in the original posting takes you to > an > "angry Hitler" rant from "Der Untergang" that is subtitled to have the KX3 > and QRP as its subject. Ha Ha. > > Mike / KK5F > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to va3mw at portcredit.net > From b.denley at comcast.net Thu May 26 11:44:02 2016 From: b.denley at comcast.net (Brian Denley) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 11:44:02 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Headset In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I use the Koss SB45 headset. Works very well. Brian Denley KB1VBF Sent from my iPad > On May 26, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Mike Harris wrote: > > Hi, > > If I remember correctly the Koss SB45 headset has been offered as a suitable substitute for the K3 weapon of choice the Yamaha CM500. Any experience out there? > > My much used CM500 are starting to shed the leatherette covering and the foam inside the cavities is wearing away. CM500 can be rather difficult to source. > > Regards, > > Mike VP8NO > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to b.denley at comcast.net From dpk at randomnotes.org Thu May 26 11:50:53 2016 From: dpk at randomnotes.org (Doug Kingston) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 08:50:53 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Hooking 2 headsets to K3S Message-ID: What is the recommended way to hook 2 headsets to a K3S? Is a stereo "Y" cable sufficient? -Doug- KD7DK From MyFord at nc.rr.com Thu May 26 11:58:32 2016 From: MyFord at nc.rr.com (MyFord at nc.rr.com) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 11:58:32 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft shows it's excellent customer service - again. Message-ID: <5BA4F2AC-935D-4327-A7C0-21F44B0DD2D6@nc.rr.com> Hi folks, I wanted to express how happy I am with the folks at Elecraft. Recently I purchased several kits for my K2, in order to finish filling it up. I sent my radio and all of the parts and kits to a builder, who is working on the radio for me. One of the new kits contained a mess of wrong parts and not the parts needed for the kit I ordered. One call to Elecraft and they are sending a new kit directly to my builder. That's what I call awesome service! Just another reason to love the Elecraft product and the folks that work there. 73, Steve KI4EZL From anthony.scandurra at gmail.com Thu May 26 12:00:23 2016 From: anthony.scandurra at gmail.com (Anthony Scandurra) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 12:00:23 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Headset In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Same here. Better physical design than the CM500 except for the boom mic. Audio performance is the same. 73, Tony K4QE On May 26, 2016 11:45 AM, "Brian Denley" wrote: > I use the Koss SB45 headset. Works very well. > > Brian Denley > KB1VBF > Sent from my iPad > > > On May 26, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Mike Harris > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > If I remember correctly the Koss SB45 headset has been offered as a > suitable substitute for the K3 weapon of choice the Yamaha CM500. Any > experience out there? > > > > My much used CM500 are starting to shed the leatherette covering and the > foam inside the cavities is wearing away. CM500 can be rather difficult to > source. > > > > Regards, > > > > Mike VP8NO > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to b.denley at comcast.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to anthony.scandurra at gmail.com > From k4ia at aol.com Thu May 26 12:01:38 2016 From: k4ia at aol.com (K4ia) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 12:01:38 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Headset In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The CM500 is offered on Amazon for $59. Don't know about shipping to the Falklands. Buck k4ia K3 #101 Honor Roll 334 8 Band DXCC On 5/26/2016 11:44 AM, Brian Denley wrote: > I use the Koss SB45 headset. Works very well. > > Brian Denley > KB1VBF > Sent from my iPad > >> On May 26, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Mike Harris wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> If I remember correctly the Koss SB45 headset has been offered as a suitable substitute for the K3 weapon of choice the Yamaha CM500. Any experience out there? >> >> My much used CM500 are starting to shed the leatherette covering and the foam inside the cavities is wearing away. CM500 can be rather difficult to source. >> >> Regards, >> >> Mike VP8NO >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to b.denley at comcast.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k4ia at aol.com > From jkhooper at rockisland.com Thu May 26 12:04:17 2016 From: jkhooper at rockisland.com (J.K. Hooper) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 09:04:17 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Hooking 2 headsets to K3S In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I bought a Behringer Microamp HA400 that I use at Field Day. No, a stereo Y cable did not do the trick. Having separate audio controls for the two listeners is important - without it, someone is always complaining of too loud or too soft. Hoop K9QJS San Juan Island, WA On May 26, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Doug Kingston wrote: What is the recommended way to hook 2 headsets to a K3S? Is a stereo "Y" cable sufficient? -Doug- KD7DK ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jkhooper at rockisland.com From jkramer at iafrica.com Thu May 26 12:06:37 2016 From: jkramer at iafrica.com (John) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 18:06:37 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] Headset In-Reply-To: <5B8F3B58-6394-4E0F-9604-0FD305295B72@iafrica.com> References: <5B8F3B58-6394-4E0F-9604-0FD305295B72@iafrica.com> Message-ID: <78030F6F-EFAE-4F58-832C-374FD148CD43@iafrica.com> I use the KOSS SB45, it has the same electret element as in the Yamaha. In fact it is almost identical to the Yamaha, but uses silver ear cups. I understand some of the components used in the Yamaha are made by Koss?perhaps the CM500 is made in the Koss factory, but labeled Yamaha ? Terrific RX and TX audio with my KX3 and Flex rigs using my Koss SB45 - make sure you get the SB45 (electret) and not the SB40 (dynamic) 73 John On 26 May 2016, at 4:14 PM, Mike Harris wrote: Hi, If I remember correctly the Koss SB45 headset has been offered as a suitable substitute for the K3 weapon of choice the Yamaha CM500. Any experience out there? My much used CM500 are starting to shed the leatherette covering and the foam inside the cavities is wearing away. CM500 can be rather difficult to source. Regards, Mike VP8NO ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jkramer at iafrica.com From nr4c at widomaker.com Thu May 26 12:12:17 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Bill Conkling) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 12:12:17 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Hooking 2 headsets to K3S In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I just plug one into the rear jacks, usually also the mic of my CM500. Then plug the phones of a second CM500 into the front phones jack (w/adapter). For many of our club events we leave the CONFIG/Speaker+phone set to ?YES?. so that onlookers may listen as well But using phones for operator and logger allows some isolation from chatter of by-standers standing around. ?bill nr4c > On May 26, 2016, at 11:50 AM, Doug Kingston wrote: > > What is the recommended way to hook 2 headsets to a K3S? Is a stereo "Y" > cable sufficient? > > -Doug- > KD7DK > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From donwilh at embarqmail.com Thu May 26 12:13:04 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 12:13:04 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Hooking 2 headsets to K3S In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5ffc3a93-9264-3844-85c0-7972aa8a055c@embarqmail.com> Doug, I would plug one in the back and the other in the front. The headphones will work together. If you have mics on the headsets, just change the MIC SEL menu to activate the one you want (or create a macro). 73, Don W3FPR On 5/26/2016 11:50 AM, Doug Kingston wrote: > What is the recommended way to hook 2 headsets to a K3S? Is a stereo "Y" > cable sufficient? > > From w2kj at bellsouth.net Thu May 26 12:19:24 2016 From: w2kj at bellsouth.net (Joe W2KJ) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 12:19:24 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 order Message-ID: Howdy Gang: Just placed my order for a KX2 and accessories and was informed that they are now backlogged some 2-3 weeks on orders for these items. The gentleman that I spoke with said they need to update the web page which indicates 5-10 day shipping timeframe. Hope it gets here before Field Day!! 73, Joe W2KJ I QRP, therefore I am From bill at wjschmidt.com Thu May 26 12:26:24 2016 From: bill at wjschmidt.com (Dr. William J. Schmidt, II) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 11:26:24 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Hooking 2 headsets to K3S In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3B4D6D63-B299-4CBC-B8FD-743CFC3DA59E@wjschmidt.com> I use the HA400 for contesting too. Its perfect for s several pairs of headphones and lets everyone have their own gain control. Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch ? K9ZC Staunton, Illinois Owner ? Operator Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com email: bill at wjschmidt.com > On May 26, 2016, at 11:04 AM, J.K. Hooper wrote: > > I bought a Behringer Microamp HA400 that I use at Field Day. No, a stereo Y cable did not do the trick. Having separate audio controls for the two listeners is important - without it, someone is always complaining of too loud or too soft. > > Hoop > K9QJS > San Juan Island, WA > > > On May 26, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Doug Kingston wrote: > > What is the recommended way to hook 2 headsets to a K3S? Is a stereo "Y" > cable sufficient? > > -Doug- > KD7DK > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jkhooper at rockisland.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to bill at wjschmidt.com From nf4l at comcast.net Thu May 26 12:32:21 2016 From: nf4l at comcast.net (Mike Reublin NF4L) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 12:32:21 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Headset In-Reply-To: <78030F6F-EFAE-4F58-832C-374FD148CD43@iafrica.com> References: <5B8F3B58-6394-4E0F-9604-0FD305295B72@iafrica.com> <78030F6F-EFAE-4F58-832C-374FD148CD43@iafrica.com> Message-ID: Amazon lists the SB-45 at 1/2 the price of the CM500. 73, Mike NF4L > On May 26, 2016, at 12:06 PM, John wrote: > > I use the KOSS SB45, it has the same electret element as in the Yamaha. In fact > it is almost identical to the Yamaha, but uses silver ear cups. I understand some > of the components used in the Yamaha are made by Koss?perhaps the CM500 > is made in the Koss factory, but labeled Yamaha ? > Terrific RX and TX audio with my KX3 and Flex rigs using my Koss SB45 - make sure > you get the SB45 (electret) and not the SB40 (dynamic) > > 73 > John > > > > > > On 26 May 2016, at 4:14 PM, Mike Harris wrote: > > Hi, > > If I remember correctly the Koss SB45 headset has been offered as a suitable substitute for the K3 weapon of choice the Yamaha CM500. Any experience out there? > > My much used CM500 are starting to shed the leatherette covering and the foam inside the cavities is wearing away. CM500 can be rather difficult to source. > > Regards, > > Mike VP8NO > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jkramer at iafrica.com > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nf4l at comcast.net From n6kr at elecraft.com Thu May 26 12:33:26 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 09:33:26 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] In case you missed it. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <74C6B473-BD06-4ACF-B2CE-98641B707C96@elecraft.com> Now if we can just get someone to do a new video that's based on that scene in "Contact" where Jodie Foster first hears a KX2 on the air! (Ooops, I mean extraterrestrial radio signals :) Wayne On May 25, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Dan Baker wrote: > This is good. > https://youtu.be/kiuO0ddcJFQ > > -- > KM6CQ > Dan Baker > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Thu May 26 12:48:34 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 17:48:34 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] Headset In-Reply-To: <78030F6F-EFAE-4F58-832C-374FD148CD43@iafrica.com> References: <5B8F3B58-6394-4E0F-9604-0FD305295B72@iafrica.com> <78030F6F-EFAE-4F58-832C-374FD148CD43@iafrica.com> Message-ID: Another vote for the KOSS SB45, especially as it is much easier to buy in the UK. I had a CM500 but the mic broke after about a year, so I kept it just as a pair of stereo headphones. 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 26 May 2016, at 17:06, John wrote: > > I use the KOSS SB45, it has the same electret element as in the Yamaha. In fact > it is almost identical to the Yamaha, but uses silver ear cups. I understand some > of the components used in the Yamaha are made by Koss?perhaps the CM500 > is made in the Koss factory, but labeled Yamaha ? > Terrific RX and TX audio with my KX3 and Flex rigs using my Koss SB45 - make sure > you get the SB45 (electret) and not the SB40 (dynamic) > > 73 > John > > > > > > On 26 May 2016, at 4:14 PM, Mike Harris wrote: > > Hi, > > If I remember correctly the Koss SB45 headset has been offered as a suitable substitute for the K3 weapon of choice the Yamaha CM500. Any experience out there? > > My much used CM500 are starting to shed the leatherette covering and the foam inside the cavities is wearing away. CM500 can be rather difficult to source. > > Regards, > > Mike VP8NO > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jkramer at iafrica.com > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Thu May 26 12:49:49 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 17:49:49 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] Hooking 2 headsets to K3S In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Another user of the HA400, very useful with the KX3 for setting levels to the soundcard and the headphones and the powered stereo speakers. 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 26 May 2016, at 17:04, J.K. Hooper wrote: > > I bought a Behringer Microamp HA400 that I use at Field Day. No, a stereo Y cable did not do the trick. Having separate audio controls for the two listeners is important - without it, someone is always complaining of too loud or too soft. > > Hoop > K9QJS > San Juan Island, WA > > > On May 26, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Doug Kingston wrote: > > What is the recommended way to hook 2 headsets to a K3S? Is a stereo "Y" > cable sufficient? > > -Doug- > KD7DK > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jkhooper at rockisland.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk From mike.harris at horizon.co.fk Thu May 26 12:52:33 2016 From: mike.harris at horizon.co.fk (Mike Harris) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 13:52:33 -0300 Subject: [Elecraft] Headset Message-ID: Many thanks to all who have offered their findings on the relative merits of the CM500 v KOSS SB45. I will get a set of SB45s for comparison, at the price it's really not an issue. Albeit, with the CM500, better the devil you know applies. Regards, Mike VP8NO From k6ll.dave at gmail.com Thu May 26 13:22:02 2016 From: k6ll.dave at gmail.com (Dave Hachadorian) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 10:22:02 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Headset In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <35C2BCA798EB435786D07DCBCB90F1E1@Toshiba> I have both the CM500 and SB-45. The SB-45 is the one I use. It is more comfortable on my head. I wear eyeglasses, and it doesn't squeeze the side rails as hard, and is generally more comfortable for me. Both headsets function equally well, but the SB-45 microphone need a couple more dB of boost in equalizer bin 4. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ -----Original Message----- From: Mike Harris Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 7:14 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Headset Hi, If I remember correctly the Koss SB45 headset has been offered as a suitable substitute for the K3 weapon of choice the Yamaha CM500. Any experience out there? My much used CM500 are starting to shed the leatherette covering and the foam inside the cavities is wearing away. CM500 can be rather difficult to source. Regards, Mike VP8NO ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k6ll.dave at gmail.com From k6ll.dave at gmail.com Thu May 26 13:27:54 2016 From: k6ll.dave at gmail.com (Dave Hachadorian) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 10:27:54 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Headset In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I forgot to mention that the SB-45 also has a nice padded headband. It doesn't irritate the top of my bald head as much as the rough webbing of the CM500. Judging from the pictures of the crowds at Dayton this year, this could be a very significant feature for a lot of hams! Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ -----Original Message----- From: Mike Harris Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 7:14 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Headset Hi, If I remember correctly the Koss SB45 headset has been offered as a suitable substitute for the K3 weapon of choice the Yamaha CM500. Any experience out there? My much used CM500 are starting to shed the leatherette covering and the foam inside the cavities is wearing away. CM500 can be rather difficult to source. Regards, Mike VP8NO ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k6ll.dave at gmail.com From KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com Thu May 26 13:32:14 2016 From: KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 10:32:14 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] In case you missed it. In-Reply-To: <485297260D8541838F0AA2C2D2D4F3D3@DavidPC> References: <8163268.1464244288925.JavaMail.wam@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <485297260D8541838F0AA2C2D2D4F3D3@DavidPC> Message-ID: On 5/26/2016 12:58 AM, David Cutter wrote: > I was recently infected by a bad dose of ransomwear. I don't know it's > source but it could easily have been something I incautiously opened - > I don't think so, but.. ... but, as an internet professional, I can't remember the last time I saw a true, self-propagating virus. It may have been SQL Slammer in 2003. Since then, it's been all trojan horses. Remember what the Greeks did to the City of Troy some 3,000 years ago. The easiest way to protect yourself is to simply read. If the message doesn't address you by name, if you don't know the sender, if the writing doesn't match the senders' usual style, ask them before you open the link or attachment. If you read carefully there is always something wrong with the message. 73 -- Lynn From KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com Thu May 26 13:44:48 2016 From: KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 10:44:48 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] CrankIR? Message-ID: <268b1cbb-0d5e-1f6c-86f0-f6549f9fa604@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Hopefully quick question: We see a lot of praise for the BuddiPole (and the AlexLoop), but don't think I've ever seen mention of the CrankIR for portable use. Anybody try one? What's the deal?? 73 -- Lynn From dave at nk7z.net Thu May 26 13:49:56 2016 From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 10:49:56 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] CrankIR? In-Reply-To: <268b1cbb-0d5e-1f6c-86f0-f6549f9fa604@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> References: <268b1cbb-0d5e-1f6c-86f0-f6549f9fa604@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Message-ID: <1464284996.3426.5.camel@nk7z.net> On Thu, 2016-05-26 at 10:44 -0700, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: > Hopefully quick question: > > We see a lot of praise for the BuddiPole (and the AlexLoop), but > don't? > think I've ever seen mention of the CrankIR for portable use. > > Anybody try one???What's the deal?? > > 73 -- Lynn Let me first preface this with I don't own one, nor have I used a CrankIR. I have used a Alex Loop for outings, and various portable dipoles though... ?I have always avoided verticals for hiking because I don't want to spread out a bunch of radials. ?It is simpler for me to hang a portable dipole, or set up the Alex Loop... ?If I can hang a dipole I use that first, then the loop... -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net From brian at kf6c.com Thu May 26 14:15:24 2016 From: brian at kf6c.com (Brian D. Comer) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 11:15:24 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Kit Pricing Message-ID: <006601d1b77a$92b71460$b8253d20$@com> I am sure the extra cost for building and testing any of the Elecraft products is worth the money if that is the way someone wants to go. All the Elecraft products I have, or have had, were built by my son Andrew KK6EME that includes 2 K3s, P3, KX3, KPA500, KXPA100 and a K2 /100(sold). The only problem experienced was a mistake he made in the assembly of, if I remember correctly, diodes to a heat sink in the KPA500. Elecraft replaced the needed parts to fix the problem at no cost. Andrew is now 15 years old he built the K2 at age 8. Unfortunately he has lost his interest ham radio now, but is still enjoying building another KPA500 for me. 73 Brian KF6C. From rheming1 at sbcglobal.net Thu May 26 15:14:51 2016 From: rheming1 at sbcglobal.net (Richard W Hemingway) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 19:14:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] Need information References: <1705572287.1067059.1464290091886.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1705572287.1067059.1464290091886.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I am new to the list and need some information. ?I have a K3S which I think is great, however, I ?have a ?problem. ?I mostly operate PSK. ?I do ?this through fldigi ?in a computer (Mac) and with SignaLink USB. ?However I have been unable to TX to the K3S ?with Fldigi (also with Coco Modem). ?It won't make the red TX light come on or TX, ?I also have tried using only USB with the same results. ?With USB the receive comes on so faint that I can barely see it, and the TX is not accepted by the K3S. I don't know why the K3S is unable to accept the TXin either case. ?Any ideas? ?I am thinking that it may be something that I have set in the K3S? A secondary poblem is that ? when I go to the rig Cat xml files to download the K3 file for the rig description in the confirmation ?of the Rig Description for Rig Cat, the only thing that I get is a bunch of words at the top of the page. I don't know how to download it in a form that I can use. ?? Any help would be appreciated. Dick N5XRD? From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Thu May 26 16:15:06 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (wickedbeernut) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 13:15:06 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] WTB: KX2 with RX I/Q Message-ID: <1464293706775-7618048.post@n2.nabble.com> I am looking to purchase one of the KX2's field tested by Rob/W3DX (S/N 0005), Steve/wG?AT (S/N 0006), Joe/N9JR (S/N 0007), Fred/KT5X (S/N 0009), ... which had RX I/Q. Please contact me off list. Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/WTB-KX2-with-RX-I-Q-tp7618048.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From nz8j at woh.rr.com Thu May 26 16:52:21 2016 From: nz8j at woh.rr.com (nz8j) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 16:52:21 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Looking for a KX3 Message-ID: Looking for a KX3, if you have one for sale please send details to include options, serial number and price shipped priority mail to zip 45324. Must be from a non smoking environment and accept paypal for payment. ThanksTimNZ8J Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone From ve3uvt at gmail.com Thu May 26 16:56:16 2016 From: ve3uvt at gmail.com (Chris) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 16:56:16 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Looking for KSB2 module Message-ID: I am looking for a good working KSB2. Please reply to me off-list with the price including shipping to Franklin MA 02038. Thanks. Chris AD1AD From k2av.guy at gmail.com Thu May 26 17:08:44 2016 From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 17:08:44 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Need information In-Reply-To: <1705572287.1067059.1464290091886.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1705572287.1067059.1464290091886.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1705572287.1067059.1464290091886.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3S-FLDIGI-Mac-Mini-td7608083.html Good luck & 73 Guy K2AV On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Richard W Hemingway wrote: > Hi, I am new to the list and need some information. I have a K3S which I > think is great, however, I have a problem. I mostly operate PSK. I do > this through fldigi in a computer (Mac) and with SignaLink USB. However > I have been unable to TX to the K3S with Fldigi (also with Coco Modem). > It won't make the red TX light come on or TX, I also have tried using only > USB with the same results. With USB the receive comes on so faint that I > can barely see it, and the TX is not accepted by the K3S. I don't know why > the K3S is unable to accept the TXin either case. Any ideas? I am > thinking that it may be something that I have set in the K3S? > A secondary poblem is that when I go to the rig Cat xml files to > download the K3 file for the rig description in the confirmation of the > Rig Description for Rig Cat, the only thing that I get is a bunch of words > at the top of the page. I don't know how to download it in a form that I > can use. ?? > Any help would be appreciated. > Dick N5XRD > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2av.guy at gmail.com From eric at elecraft.com Thu May 26 17:11:16 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 14:11:16 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] WTB: KX2 with RX I/Q In-Reply-To: <1464293706775-7618048.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1464293706775-7618048.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <51f6ea17-4877-16f5-8254-799e474af854@elecraft.com> None of those FT units had RX I/O outputs. 73, Eric /elecraft.com/ On 5/26/2016 1:15 PM, wickedbeernut wrote: > I am looking to purchase one of the KX2's field tested by Rob/W3DX (S/N > 0005), Steve/wG?AT (S/N 0006), Joe/N9JR (S/N 0007), Fred/KT5X (S/N 0009), > ... which had RX I/Q. > > Please contact me off list. > > Joe Stone > KF5WBO > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/WTB-KX2-with-RX-I-Q-tp7618048.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com From eric at elecraft.com Thu May 26 17:11:32 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 14:11:32 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] WTB: KX2 with RX I/Q In-Reply-To: <1464293706775-7618048.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1464293706775-7618048.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: RX-I/Q. Eric /elecraft.com/ On 5/26/2016 1:15 PM, wickedbeernut wrote: > I am looking to purchase one of the KX2's field tested by Rob/W3DX (S/N > 0005), Steve/wG?AT (S/N 0006), Joe/N9JR (S/N 0007), Fred/KT5X (S/N 0009), > ... which had RX I/Q. > > Please contact me off list. > > Joe Stone > KF5WBO > > > From n6kr at elecraft.com Thu May 26 17:15:34 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 14:15:34 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] WTB: KX2 with RX I/Q In-Reply-To: References: <1464293706775-7618048.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: These do not, and never did, have RX I/Q. They had prototype left-side-panel artwork ported over from KX3 nomenclature during the early Pleistocene. 73, Wayne N6KR On May 26, 2016, at 2:11 PM, "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" wrote: > RX-I/Q. > > Eric > /elecraft.com/ > > On 5/26/2016 1:15 PM, wickedbeernut wrote: >> I am looking to purchase one of the KX2's field tested by Rob/W3DX (S/N >> 0005), Steve/wG?AT (S/N 0006), Joe/N9JR (S/N 0007), Fred/KT5X (S/N 0009), >> ... which had RX I/Q. >> >> Please contact me off list. >> >> Joe Stone >> KF5WBO From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Thu May 26 17:22:05 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (wickedbeernut) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 14:22:05 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] WTB: KX2 with RX I/Q In-Reply-To: <51f6ea17-4877-16f5-8254-799e474af854@elecraft.com> References: <1464293706775-7618048.post@n2.nabble.com> <51f6ea17-4877-16f5-8254-799e474af854@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <1464297725837-7618055.post@n2.nabble.com> Thanks for the clarification. That's too bad. Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/WTB-KX2-with-RX-I-Q-tp7618048p7618055.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From david.mcanally at gmail.com Thu May 26 17:28:29 2016 From: david.mcanally at gmail.com (David McAnally) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 16:28:29 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] CrankIR? In-Reply-To: <268b1cbb-0d5e-1f6c-86f0-f6549f9fa604@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> References: <268b1cbb-0d5e-1f6c-86f0-f6549f9fa604@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Message-ID: On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT < KX3 at coldrockshotbrooms.com> wrote: > Hopefully quick question: > > We see a lot of praise for the BuddiPole (and the AlexLoop), but don't > think I've ever seen mention of the CrankIR for portable use. > > Anybody try one? What's the deal?? > > 73 -- Lynn > > ?Lynn,? ?I have owned a CrankIR for almost two years. When I go traveling by auto for more than a couple of days, it goes with me along with my K3, plus KPA500 and whatever else I decide to pack. I previously took a dipole, with fiberglass poles, since I didn't always ?have access to wire supports. The CrankIR is a nice compromise. It packs down to a small bag plus the optional fiberglass extension for 80M. I now pack it in a small rifle case. Operationally, it seems to perform well. I had QSO's with New Zealand a few weeks back while I was in Arizona. I've checked into the Elecraft SSB net from time to time. As Dave C. mentions, the dipole is more lightweight, rugged and may perform better. I can't compare to the Alex loop as I've never used one. The CrankIR tunes 10M through 80M, but that is a manual process. There are markers on the wire and I've gotten pretty good at tuning it, using my Rig Expert antenna analyzer. There are trade offs in whatever you choose though. I doubt I'll ever go hiking or backpacking with the CrankIR and K3. But they travel well in my Avalanche. I'm trying to find a way to justify the KX3, or now KX2 as my portable secondary radio. David M. WD5M From wb1edi at hotmail.com Thu May 26 17:52:45 2016 From: wb1edi at hotmail.com (barry whittemore) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 17:52:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Hooking 2 headsets to K3S Message-ID: Doug, My wife (NE1F) and I use 2 headsets with our K3 but not directly. We use a Behringer Mic mixer and Headphone mixer. This approach works very well for us. Mary has the inputs set different on the Mixer. We also use the extra inputs for the canned outputs for voice keying to get into the radio. We have an AMP800 and A XENIX802. I did make a small mod (simple voltage divider) to the phantom voltage as its designed for the 48 volt pro mics and we use PC CM500 headsets. This has worked well for us for many years. Enjoy 73 Barry NF1O Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 08:50:53 -0700 From: Doug Kingston To: Mailman Subject: [Elecraft] Hooking 2 headsets to K3S Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 What is the recommended way to hook 2 headsets to a K3S? Is a stereo "Y" cable sufficient? -Doug- KD7DK From n6kr at elecraft.com Thu May 26 17:57:42 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 14:57:42 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 in AM mode Message-ID: The KX2 has general-coverage receive, including all popular AM SWL broadcast ranges. While it doesn't directly support AM demodulation, you can use USB or LSB to copy AM. This works really well. You can choose the sideband that has lower QRM, and widen the AF passband out as far as 4 kHz (equivalent to an 8-kHz AM filter). You can turn on the auto-notch to remove adjacent-channel carriers. AM is also on the wich-list as a possible future [free] firmware upgrade. Wayne, N6KR From n5lz at comcast.net Thu May 26 17:58:14 2016 From: n5lz at comcast.net (Don Butler) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 15:58:14 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] CrankIR? In-Reply-To: References: <268b1cbb-0d5e-1f6c-86f0-f6549f9fa604@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Message-ID: I?ve never owned a Buddipole, but bought one of the first CrankIRs almost 2 ? years ?. And I love it. I have no doubt that both antennas (Buddipole and CrankIR) work equally well, but a significant plus that comes with the CrankIR is the ease and simplicity of changing bands ...... it will typically take me less than a minute to retune the CrankIR to another band and get back on the air ?.. compare that to the Buddipole where you pretty much have to take it down, rebuild the elements, and put it back up again virtually EVERY time you change bands. I made this video soon after buying my CrankIR ?.. and the SteppIR folks still have the link on their website. Realistically it will take about 20 minutes from start to finish to get the CrankIR up and on the air ?. https://vimeo.com/album/2915832/video/87038860 Don, N5LZ Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: David McAnally Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 3:30 PM To: Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT Cc: Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CrankIR? On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT < KX3 at coldrockshotbrooms.com> wrote: > Hopefully quick question: > > We see a lot of praise for the BuddiPole (and the AlexLoop), but don't > think I've ever seen mention of the CrankIR for portable use. > > Anybody try one? What's the deal?? > > 73 -- Lynn > > ?Lynn,? ?I have owned a CrankIR for almost two years. When I go traveling by auto for more than a couple of days, it goes with me along with my K3, plus KPA500 and whatever else I decide to pack. I previously took a dipole, with fiberglass poles, since I didn't always ?have access to wire supports. The CrankIR is a nice compromise. It packs down to a small bag plus the optional fiberglass extension for 80M. I now pack it in a small rifle case. Operationally, it seems to perform well. I had QSO's with New Zealand a few weeks back while I was in Arizona. I've checked into the Elecraft SSB net from time to time. As Dave C. mentions, the dipole is more lightweight, rugged and may perform better. I can't compare to the Alex loop as I've never used one. The CrankIR tunes 10M through 80M, but that is a manual process. There are markers on the wire and I've gotten pretty good at tuning it, using my Rig Expert antenna analyzer. There are trade offs in whatever you choose though. I doubt I'll ever go hiking or backpacking with the CrankIR and K3. But they travel well in my Avalanche. I'm trying to find a way to justify the KX3, or now KX2 as my portable secondary radio. David M. WD5M ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n5lz at comcast.net From w7ox at socal.rr.com Thu May 26 18:18:51 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 15:18:51 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX2 in AM mode In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wayne, One reason I invest in Elecraft rigs, and have from the beginning, is the way they evolve over time. That magnifies the thrill of ownership for me. And, unlike the K2 where firmware upgrades meant ordering ($$) and disassembly to change out a firmware chip, now we simply download the updates and run the utility. Kudos on a fine -- yea, irresistible -- new product, and also on the way Elecraft has evolved with the technology over the past 17 years. 73, Phil W7OX On 5/26/16 2:57 PM, Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com [KX3] wrote: > > The KX2 has general-coverage receive, including > all popular AM SWL broadcast ranges. While it > doesn't directly support AM demodulation, you > can use USB or LSB to copy AM. This works really > well. You can choose the sideband that has lower > QRM, and widen the AF passband out as far as 4 > kHz (equivalent to an 8-kHz AM filter). You can > turn on the auto-notch to remove > adjacent-channel carriers. > > AM is also on the wich-list as a possible future > [free] firmware upgrade. > > Wayne, N6KR > From ppauly at gmail.com Thu May 26 18:34:10 2016 From: ppauly at gmail.com (Peter Pauly) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 18:34:10 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] CrankIR? In-Reply-To: <20160526220052.DBE19149B803@mailman.qth.net> References: <268b1cbb-0d5e-1f6c-86f0-f6549f9fa604@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> <20160526220052.DBE19149B803@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: I have the AlexLoop and just ordered the CrankIR. The AlexLoop can only do 20 watts because of the small variable capacitor. The CrankIR does 1KW and has a much wider bandwidth after tuning. You shouldn't need to fiddle with it after you change bands like you would with the AlexLoop for small QSY's. On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Don Butler wrote: > I?ve never owned a Buddipole, but bought one of the first CrankIRs almost > 2 ? years ?. And I love it. I have no doubt that both antennas (Buddipole > and CrankIR) work equally well, but a significant plus that comes with the > CrankIR is the ease and simplicity of changing bands ...... it will > typically take me less than a minute to retune the CrankIR to another band > and get back on the air ?.. compare that to the Buddipole where you pretty > much have to take it down, rebuild the elements, and put it back up again > virtually EVERY time you change bands. > > I made this video soon after buying my CrankIR ?.. and the SteppIR folks > still have the link on their website. Realistically it will take about 20 > minutes from start to finish to get the CrankIR up and on the air ?. > > https://vimeo.com/album/2915832/video/87038860 > > Don, N5LZ > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: David McAnally > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 3:30 PM > To: Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT > Cc: > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CrankIR? > > On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT < > KX3 at coldrockshotbrooms.com> wrote: > > > Hopefully quick question: > > > > We see a lot of praise for the BuddiPole (and the AlexLoop), but don't > > think I've ever seen mention of the CrankIR for portable use. > > > > Anybody try one? What's the deal?? > > > > 73 -- Lynn > > > > > ?Lynn,? > > ?I have owned a CrankIR for almost two years. When I go traveling by auto > for more than a couple of days, it goes with me along with my K3, plus > KPA500 and whatever else I decide to pack. I previously took a dipole, with > fiberglass poles, since I didn't always ?have access to wire supports. The > CrankIR is a nice compromise. It packs down to a small bag plus the > optional fiberglass extension for 80M. I now pack it in a small rifle case. > > Operationally, it seems to perform well. I had QSO's with New Zealand a > few weeks back while I was in Arizona. I've checked into the Elecraft SSB > net from time to time. As Dave C. mentions, the dipole is more > lightweight, rugged and may perform better. I can't compare to the Alex > loop as I've never used one. The CrankIR tunes 10M through 80M, but that is > a manual process. There are markers on the wire and I've gotten pretty good > at tuning it, using my Rig Expert antenna analyzer. There are trade offs > in whatever you choose though. I doubt I'll ever go hiking or backpacking > with the CrankIR and K3. But they travel well in my Avalanche. I'm trying > to find a way to justify the KX3, or now KX2 as my portable secondary > radio. > > David M. > WD5M > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n5lz at comcast.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ppauly at gmail.com > From matt.vk2rq at gmail.com Thu May 26 18:52:21 2016 From: matt.vk2rq at gmail.com (Matt Maguire) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 22:52:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] WTB: KX2 with RX I/Q In-Reply-To: <1464297725837-7618055.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1464293706775-7618048.post@n2.nabble.com> <51f6ea17-4877-16f5-8254-799e474af854@elecraft.com> <1464297725837-7618055.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Production firmware wouldn't have supported it anyway. 73, Matt VK2RQ On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 2:22 PM -0700, "wickedbeernut" wrote: Thanks for the clarification. That's too bad. Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/WTB-KX2-with-RX-I-Q-tp7618048p7618055.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to matt.vk2rq at gmail.com From k6dgw at foothill.net Thu May 26 19:32:25 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 16:32:25 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX2 in AM mode In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 5/26/2016 3:18 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > One reason I invest in Elecraft rigs, and have from the beginning, is > the way they evolve over time. That magnifies the thrill of ownership > for me. And, unlike the K2 where firmware upgrades meant ordering ($$) > and disassembly to change out a firmware chip, now we simply download > the updates and run the utility. I can see that ... however there's always more than one chapter to the story: I love and use my K2 [#4398, getting a bit long in the tooth] often, both in the field, out in the park, on the patio, and on this desk with what passes for an antenna at home. One of the reasons is -- it never changes. Everything I've learned to do with it always works, the same way, every time. I stopped FW semi-automatic downloads to my K3 [#642, also becoming little toothy] "just because it was available," quite awhile ago without first looking at the release notes. Updates that affected my configuration ... fairly vanilla ... have been very few in the last few years. Thus, my K3 behaves exactly as I have learned my K3 should behave. It might even do that with the latest FW, but that's one thing I don't need to do. > > Kudos on a fine -- yea, irresistible -- new product, and also on the way > Elecraft has evolved with the technology over the past 17 years. Apparently with Elecraft, you can have it both ways ... Latest/Greatest and Justlikeitwasyesterday. Your choice. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org From mike at mdodd.com Thu May 26 19:44:39 2016 From: mike at mdodd.com (Mike Dodd) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 19:44:39 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Need information In-Reply-To: <1705572287.1067059.1464290091886.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1705572287.1067059.1464290091886.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1705572287.1067059.1464290091886.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <57478A67.20206@mdodd.com> On 5/26/2016 3:14 PM, Richard W Hemingway wrote: >I have a K3S > which I think is great, however, I have a problem. I mostly > operate PSK. I do this through fldigi in a computer (Mac) and with > SignaLink USB. However I have been unable to TX to the K3S with > Fldigi (also with Coco Modem). Why are you using SignaLink, and not the built-in USB sound card in the K3s? I sold the SignaLink I used with a KX3 when I bought the K3s a couple of months ago. I use FLDigi with the K3s sound card, and it works perfectly. The only thing I need to do is remember to hold the VOX button to turn on VOX, so the xmit audio keys the transmitter. My MENU: VOX GN is set to 10. Tap MODE to select DATA. For PSK-31 (vs. RTTY), be sure to hold DATA MD and select DATA-A, not AFSK-A, with the VFO B knob. Adjust the MIC knob for LINE 5 input level. I don't recall setting any audio level for the USB sound card, but that can be set in FLDigi (I think). Hope this helps. -- 73, Mike N4CF Louisa County, VA USA Elecraft K3s/100 Carolina Windom up 45' http://n4cf.mdodd.com From jsodus at comcast.net Thu May 26 21:04:07 2016 From: jsodus at comcast.net (jsodus at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 01:04:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] Balun BL2 In-Reply-To: <1930379883.7916614.1464279116448.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2000883942.8371721.1464311047331.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Hello, I'm contemplating buying the BL2 balun. It would be connected to 450-ohm transmission-line, which would go to a version of W1AB's "killer-antenna", sized for 20m on a 31' jackite-pole. A reviewer of the BL2, on eham five years ago, commented about heat and signal-loss. The heat and signal-loss concern me, not at the QRP-level but higher wattage. I realize it is spec'd at 250 W but how hot does it get? I've looked for data about insertion-loss for the BL2 and came up short there. Hopefully someone has measured the insertion-loss and could share that data. The "elecraft BL2 assembly and operating manual" has the cores as ferrite material. But ferrites exhibit non-linear properties, so the loss may be a function, not only of frequency, but also drive-level. Insertion-loss shows up as heat and that heat affects the properties of the ferrite. As I wrote above, I'm not concerned about QRP operation. If I put it into operation on FD and but take my KX3 home for the day, what happens if a club-member connects his 100+ W rig to the antenna-system to operate thru the night? TIA for any reply. 73 Jerry KM3K KX3 #6088 From k6ctw at earthlink.net Thu May 26 21:31:26 2016 From: k6ctw at earthlink.net (Ken Miller K6CTW) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 18:31:26 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Elecraft] Headset Message-ID: <9990686.1464312686574.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> All - Just my 2 cents worth as an almost 100% CW guy. I have been using the Radiosport Headsets from Arlan Communications for a while. I have their model RS20S with the gel earpads and cloth covers for my K2 (serial #455) as it is my QRP contesting rig and these phones are SUPERB! Has great isolation so I don't hear anything but what is coming thru the phones (which would be good for field day). The gel pads and cloth covers make them very comfortable for long sessions while contesting. Additionally, they are stereo so they would work perfectly with a K3/K3s where you could put one receiver's output in each ear for chasing DX when running split. I also have their model RS20CR, which is monaural and 600 ohms. This is for use with my vintage gear (Drake C-Line, R-4A and 2-B and Collins 75A-1). Also a outstanding performer, particularly when listening to the SW broadcast. I have not used their headset with microphone combination but if it works as well as these listen-only units it should be just terrific! Just my thoughts and hope this helps! Their website is here: http://www.arlancommunications.com/ 73 - Ken Miller, K6CTW (Disclaimer: I have no vested interest in Arlan Communications just a very happy user) From john at kk9a.com Thu May 26 21:52:05 2016 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 21:52:05 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Headset Message-ID: <006301d1b7ba$5f940030$1ebc0090$@com> If you want a great and amazingly comfortable CW headphone, consider the Sony MDR-7506. I bought mine after reading K9YC's recommendation on cq-contest and I could not be happier. John KK9A Ken Miller Thu May 26 21:31:26 EDT 2016 All - Just my 2 cents worth as an almost 100% CW guy. I have been using the Radiosport Headsets from Arlan Communications for a while. I have their model RS20S with the gel earpads and cloth covers for my K2 (serial #455) as it is my QRP contesting rig and these phones are SUPERB! Has great isolation so I don't hear anything but what is coming thru the phones (which would be good for field day). The gel pads and cloth covers make them very comfortable for long sessions while contesting. Additionally, they are stereo so they would work perfectly with a K3/K3s where you could put one receiver's output in each ear for chasing DX when running split. I also have their model RS20CR, which is monaural and 600 ohms. This is for use with my vintage gear (Drake C-Line, R-4A and 2-B and Collins 75A-1). Also a outstanding performer, particularly when listening to the SW broadcast. I have not used their headset with microphone combination but if it works as well as these listen-only units it should be just terrific! 73 - Ken Miller, K6CTW From zl2agy at clear.net.nz Thu May 26 21:58:56 2016 From: zl2agy at clear.net.nz (Tony Marr) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 01:58:56 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Balun BL2 Message-ID: <001c01d1b7bb$5466b6c0$fd342440$@net.nz> Hi Jerry, I've used the BL2 extensively, especially on my trips to E51. I've fed all sorts of SWR-unknown antennas with it, running the pile-ups with my K3 at 100w. On some antennas, it does get quite warm, but I keep it absolutely cool by running a small 12V computer muffin fan alongside it, and the circulating air stops it heating at all. It's survived thousands of QSOs like this, and I also use it QRP here back home in ZL, and have no problems with any apparent insertion loss. I don't have any accurate way of measuring loss, but, personally, I don't see the need to bother. I think it's a great little kit. 73, Tony, ZL2AGY/E51AGY. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From w6hv at verizon.net Thu May 26 22:01:11 2016 From: w6hv at verizon.net (Troy, W6HV) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 19:01:11 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Headset In-Reply-To: <9990686.1464312686574.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <9990686.1464312686574.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3A8A8D28D8934416AC366F5D9BBFBCBD@TroyPC> My K3 is used strictly CW and I have the ?Audio-Technica ATH-M30x Professional Studio Monitor Headphones?. Very comfortable, Amazon has them for $55.34. -----Original Message----- From: Ken Miller K6CTW Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 6:31 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Headset All - Just my 2 cents worth as an almost 100% CW guy. I have been using the Radiosport Headsets from Arlan Communications for a while. I have their model RS20S with the gel earpads and cloth covers for my K2 (serial #455) as it is my QRP contesting rig and these phones are SUPERB! Has great isolation so I don't hear anything but what is coming thru the phones (which would be good for field day). The gel pads and cloth covers make them very comfortable for long sessions while contesting. Additionally, they are stereo so they would work perfectly with a K3/K3s where you could put one receiver's output in each ear for chasing DX when running split. I also have their model RS20CR, which is monaural and 600 ohms. This is for use with my vintage gear (Drake C-Line, R-4A and 2-B and Collins 75A-1). Also a outstanding performer, particularly when listening to the SW broadcast. I have not used their headset with microphone combination but if it works as well as these listen-only units it should be just terrific! Just my thoughts and hope this helps! Their website is here: http://www.arlancommunications.com/ 73 - Ken Miller, K6CTW (Disclaimer: I have no vested interest in Arlan Communications just a very happy user) ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w6hv at verizon.net From garyk9gs at wi.rr.com Thu May 26 22:06:36 2016 From: garyk9gs at wi.rr.com (Gary K9GS) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 21:06:36 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Headset In-Reply-To: <006301d1b7ba$5f940030$1ebc0090$@com> References: <006301d1b7ba$5f940030$1ebc0090$@com> Message-ID: I second that John. I bought one 2+ years ago. It arrived days before CQWW CW. I wore them all weekend and never a complaint. One of the really cool things is that they come with a parts list. If you ever have to repair them they sell replacement parts. I've never looked back. On 5/26/2016 8:52 PM, john at kk9a.com wrote: > If you want a great and amazingly comfortable CW headphone, consider the > Sony MDR-7506. I bought mine after reading K9YC's recommendation on > cq-contest and I could not be happier. > > John KK9A > > Ken Miller > Thu May 26 21:31:26 EDT 2016 > > All - Just my 2 cents worth as an almost 100% CW guy. I have been using the > Radiosport Headsets from Arlan Communications for a while. > > I have their model RS20S with the gel earpads and cloth covers for my K2 > (serial #455) as it is my QRP contesting rig and these phones are SUPERB! > Has great isolation so I don't hear anything but what is coming thru the > phones (which would be good for field day). The gel pads and cloth covers > make them very comfortable for long sessions while contesting. > Additionally, they are stereo so they would work perfectly with a K3/K3s > where you could put one receiver's output in each ear for chasing DX when > running split. > > I also have their model RS20CR, which is monaural and 600 ohms. This is for > use with my vintage gear (Drake C-Line, R-4A and 2-B and Collins 75A-1). > Also a outstanding performer, particularly when listening to the SW > broadcast. > > I have not used their headset with microphone combination but if it works as > well as these listen-only units it should be just terrific! > > 73 - Ken Miller, K6CTW > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to garyk9gs at wi.rr.com > -- 73, Gary K9GS Greater Milwaukee DX Association: http://www.gmdxa.org Society of Midwest Contesters: http://www.w9smc.com CW Ops #1032 http://www.cwops.org ************************************************ From edouard at lafargue.name Thu May 26 22:32:24 2016 From: edouard at lafargue.name (Edouard Lafargue) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 19:32:24 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Wizkers:Radio with KX2 support is now live Message-ID: ... Thanks to Elecraft for publishing the updated programmer's reference, Wizkers:Radio 0.2.0 with KX2 support is now available: http://forum.wizkers.io/t/wizkers-radio-0-2-0-with-kx2-support-released/87 KX2 owners, please test and report, I did this without access to an actual unit. On the upside, this is probably the very first rig controller on the market with KX2 support :) 73 de Ed W6ELA From ekacura at yahoo.com Thu May 26 23:18:06 2016 From: ekacura at yahoo.com (Edward Kacura) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 23:18:06 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 order In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The early bird catches the worm ! Got mine Wednesday, ordered last Thursday....s/n 0109 Ed N7EDK Bradenton, FL Sent from my iPhon > On May 26, 2016, at 12:19, Joe W2KJ wrote: > > Howdy Gang: > > Just placed my order for a KX2 and accessories and was informed that they are now backlogged some 2-3 weeks on orders for these items. > > The gentleman that I spoke with said they need to update the web page which indicates 5-10 day shipping timeframe. > > Hope it gets here before Field Day!! > > 73, Joe W2KJ > I QRP, therefore I am From wunder at wunderwood.org Thu May 26 23:46:23 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 20:46:23 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Balun BL2 In-Reply-To: <2000883942.8371721.1464311047331.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> References: <2000883942.8371721.1464311047331.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: <36AAF8E3-58CF-4E10-AA18-0EA9147092E5@wunderwood.org> You might look at the ?QRP? baluns from Balun Designs. They are designed for 250 W and cost about $50. Excellent design and construction. http://www.balundesigns.com/low-power-qrp-baluns/ wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On May 26, 2016, at 6:04 PM, jsodus at comcast.net wrote: > > Hello, > I'm contemplating buying the BL2 balun. > It would be connected to 450-ohm transmission-line, which would go to a version of W1AB's "killer-antenna", sized for 20m on a 31' jackite-pole. > > A reviewer of the BL2, on eham five years ago, commented about heat and signal-loss. > The heat and signal-loss concern me, not at the QRP-level but higher wattage. > I realize it is spec'd at 250 W but how hot does it get? > > I've looked for data about insertion-loss for the BL2 and came up short there. > Hopefully someone has measured the insertion-loss and could share that data. > > The "elecraft BL2 assembly and operating manual" has the cores as ferrite material. > But ferrites exhibit non-linear properties, so the loss may be a function, not only of frequency, but also drive-level. > Insertion-loss shows up as heat and that heat affects the properties of the ferrite. > > As I wrote above, I'm not concerned about QRP operation. > If I put it into operation on FD and but take my KX3 home for the day, what happens if a club-member connects his 100+ W rig to the antenna-system to operate thru the night? > TIA for any reply. > > 73 Jerry KM3K > KX3 #6088 > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Thu May 26 23:56:28 2016 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 06:56:28 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] Balun BL2 In-Reply-To: <2000883942.8371721.1464311047331.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> References: <2000883942.8371721.1464311047331.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: How hot it gets is determined by 1) the SWR and 2) the configuration of the antenna/feedline -- how much common mode power it has to dissipate. I have a DX Engineering balun rated 5 kW continuous and 10 kW intermittent which /overheated/ on some bands when running 1 kW -- until I added capacitance or inductance on the antenna side of the balun to cancel out the reactance and at the same time detune the feedline for common mode current. Now it stays cold. 73, Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO Rehovot, Israel http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 27 May 2016 04:04, jsodus at comcast.net wrote: > Hello, > I'm contemplating buying the BL2 balun. > It would be connected to 450-ohm transmission-line, which would go to a version of W1AB's "killer-antenna", sized for 20m on a 31' jackite-pole. > > A reviewer of the BL2, on eham five years ago, commented about heat and signal-loss. > The heat and signal-loss concern me, not at the QRP-level but higher wattage. > I realize it is spec'd at 250 W but how hot does it get? > > I've looked for data about insertion-loss for the BL2 and came up short there. > Hopefully someone has measured the insertion-loss and could share that data. > > The "elecraft BL2 assembly and operating manual" has the cores as ferrite material. > But ferrites exhibit non-linear properties, so the loss may be a function, not only of frequency, but also drive-level. > Insertion-loss shows up as heat and that heat affects the properties of the ferrite. > > As I wrote above, I'm not concerned about QRP operation. > If I put it into operation on FD and but take my KX3 home for the day, what happens if a club-member connects his 100+ W rig to the antenna-system to operate thru the night? > TIA for any reply. > > 73 Jerry KM3K > KX3 #6088 From turnbull at net1.ie Fri May 27 04:58:48 2016 From: turnbull at net1.ie (Doug Turnbull) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 08:58:48 -0000 Subject: [Elecraft] CrankIR or AlexLoop In-Reply-To: References: <268b1cbb-0d5e-1f6c-86f0-f6549f9fa604@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com><20160526220052.DBE19149B803@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: Hi OMs and YLs, I find this discussion of interest and the positive points about the CrankIR seem correct in all respects. I use an AlexLoop for travels as it is small you can install it on a hotel balcony, park bench in front of a hotel window, inside a timber frame, concrete block or stone house and the AlexLoop will work. The antenna is only one meter in diameter. As I use a KX3 with this antenna the power limit is not a problem. As I operate with the antenna adjacent or very close by, the adjustment for frequency change is no hardship - it takes but a few seconds. So changing bands with the AlexLoop is faster. No antenna tuner is needed with the AlexLoop and if you have one it should be disabled. I am certain the CrankIR is a more efficient antenna but it is not as compact and can not be used indoors. Just about anywhere I go the AlexLoop can be used without upsetting people or embarrassment. I have worked across the Atlantic multiple times with the AlexLoop indoors and have done this from both sides of the ocean. So there are tradeoffs and thankfully we have choices. The CrankIR will outperform the AlexLoop every time but you can easily use the AlexLoop and it does work. 73 Doug EI2CN -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Peter Pauly Sent: 26 May 2016 22:34 To: Don Butler Cc: Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CrankIR? I have the AlexLoop and just ordered the CrankIR. The AlexLoop can only do 20 watts because of the small variable capacitor. The CrankIR does 1KW and has a much wider bandwidth after tuning. You shouldn't need to fiddle with it after you change bands like you would with the AlexLoop for small QSY's. On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Don Butler wrote: > I?ve never owned a Buddipole, but bought one of the first CrankIRs almost > 2 ? years . And I love it. I have no doubt that both antennas (Buddipole > and CrankIR) work equally well, but a significant plus that comes with the > CrankIR is the ease and simplicity of changing bands ...... it will > typically take me less than a minute to retune the CrankIR to another band > and get back on the air .. compare that to the Buddipole where you pretty > much have to take it down, rebuild the elements, and put it back up again > virtually EVERY time you change bands. > > I made this video soon after buying my CrankIR .. and the SteppIR folks > still have the link on their website. Realistically it will take about 20 > minutes from start to finish to get the CrankIR up and on the air . > > https://vimeo.com/album/2915832/video/87038860 > > Don, N5LZ > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: David McAnally > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 3:30 PM > To: Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT > Cc: > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CrankIR? > > On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT < > KX3 at coldrockshotbrooms.com> wrote: > > > Hopefully quick question: > > > > We see a lot of praise for the BuddiPole (and the AlexLoop), but don't > > think I've ever seen mention of the CrankIR for portable use. > > > > Anybody try one? What's the deal?? > > > > 73 -- Lynn > > > > > ?Lynn,? > > ?I have owned a CrankIR for almost two years. When I go traveling by auto > for more than a couple of days, it goes with me along with my K3, plus > KPA500 and whatever else I decide to pack. I previously took a dipole, with > fiberglass poles, since I didn't always ?have access to wire supports. The > CrankIR is a nice compromise. It packs down to a small bag plus the > optional fiberglass extension for 80M. I now pack it in a small rifle case. > > Operationally, it seems to perform well. I had QSO's with New Zealand a > few weeks back while I was in Arizona. I've checked into the Elecraft SSB > net from time to time. As Dave C. mentions, the dipole is more > lightweight, rugged and may perform better. I can't compare to the Alex > loop as I've never used one. The CrankIR tunes 10M through 80M, but that is > a manual process. There are markers on the wire and I've gotten pretty good > at tuning it, using my Rig Expert antenna analyzer. There are trade offs > in whatever you choose though. I doubt I'll ever go hiking or backpacking > with the CrankIR and K3. But they travel well in my Avalanche. I'm trying > to find a way to justify the KX3, or now KX2 as my portable secondary > radio. > > David M. > WD5M > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n5lz at comcast.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ppauly at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to turnbull at net1.ie From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Fri May 27 08:53:35 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 13:53:35 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3: 4m transverter enabling DC on SMA ? Message-ID: <5AAE11DC-5269-4197-88AF-A950B5CFC36D@yahoo.co.uk> I read in the FAQ for the transverter http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX3-2M%20FAQ.htm Q: Does the module provide a DC signal at the antenna jack for external switching functions? A: Yes. We're adding a menu entry to control this. When the signal is turned on, 5 volts (through a 4-kohm series resistor) is applied to the SMA jack. This can be used to control external devices such as a higher-band transverter, amplifier, or antenna switch. Has this been done, and if so what is the menu item I am looking for? 73 from David GM4JJJ From reuben.popp at gmail.com Fri May 27 09:19:42 2016 From: reuben.popp at gmail.com (Reuben Popp) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 08:19:42 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Mast question Message-ID: Hey everyone, more of a beginner question here and not [directly] Elecraft related. I have a K2 I built some time ago that I paired with a half size g5rv. At the time, I was living with a buddy whose house design allowed me to set that antenna up as a sloper (and it worked quite well). That said, some years have passed, I'm married now and the house I live in now is much smaller. I have the antenna still, but it's merely laid along the vertex of the roof. Reception is so-so, but I know it could be much better. So, what can I use for a reliable mast that would be left up all the time? There's no trees in the lot. The house itself is a single level house on a slab (no basement). and from end to end it's _maybe_ all of 40'. The distance from the ground to the vertex is maybe all of 16 feet (or there abouts). The XYL said she doesn't want guy wires all over and a rohn style tower is out of my budget. I'm looking for suggestions that's preferably < $300, if possible. The locale is mid-east Missouri, about an hour outside St. Louis; storms come and go but it's not like I'm in tornado country (if that helps any). So, what do folks recommend? From n4ua.va at gmail.com Fri May 27 10:19:34 2016 From: n4ua.va at gmail.com (George Dubovsky) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 10:19:34 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Mast question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would look for 3 used sections of Rohn 25, then figure out how to safely bracket it to your house, if possible. That should be do-able for somewhere close to your budget and certainly capable of holding up a G5RV. 73, geo - n4ua On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 9:19 AM, Reuben Popp wrote: > Hey everyone, more of a beginner question here and not [directly] Elecraft > related. > > I have a K2 I built some time ago that I paired with a half size g5rv. At > the time, I was living with a buddy whose house design allowed me to set > that antenna up as a sloper (and it worked quite well). That said, some > years have passed, I'm married now and the house I live in now is much > smaller. I have the antenna still, but it's merely laid along the vertex > of the roof. Reception is so-so, but I know it could be much better. So, > what can I use for a reliable mast that would be left up all the time? > > There's no trees in the lot. The house itself is a single level house on a > slab (no basement). and from end to end it's _maybe_ all of 40'. The > distance from the ground to the vertex is maybe all of 16 feet (or there > abouts). > > The XYL said she doesn't want guy wires all over and a rohn style tower is > out of my budget. I'm looking for suggestions that's preferably < $300, if > possible. The locale is mid-east Missouri, about an hour outside St. > Louis; storms come and go but it's not like I'm in tornado country (if that > helps any). > > So, what do folks recommend? > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n4ua.va at gmail.com > From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Fri May 27 10:32:50 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 15:32:50 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3: transverter schematic? Message-ID: Is there a schematic diagram for the KX3 internal transverter series available? I was sure I had seen one at some point in the past, perhaps it was in some slide show by Elecraft when they introduced it, but I can't locate it now. 73 from David GM4JJJ From len at ka7ftp.com Fri May 27 10:34:04 2016 From: len at ka7ftp.com (len at ka7ftp.com) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 08:34:04 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] FS: KX1 with all of the options 80/40/30/20 Message-ID: <16ae01d1b824$d178e6b0$746ab410$@ka7ftp.com> Hi All, After getting my KX3 I no longer use my KX1 and am selling it.? I built my KX1 kit in 2011 and am a very experienced builder, the radio works perfectly.? The KX1 has been always kept in my non-smoking home. Selling the KX1 with the KXAT1 internal antenna tuner.? The KX1 has the KXB3080 option giving the radio coverage on 80,40,30, and 20 meters.? It also comes with the KXPD1 plug in paddle.? The radio is powered with 6 UltraFire Li-ion AA sized batteries giving it plenty of capacity.? I will include two UltraFire rapid chargers with the KX1.? Also include is the original documentation, a BNC to binding post adaptor, and a cigarette lighter plug adaptor.? ?I?m asking $500 for the complete KX1 radio and accessories.? I will ship within the continental US and cover shipping and insurance.? I can accept payment by PayPal or a US Postal Service money order.? If you are interested please contact me directly at: ?len at ka7ftp dot com Pictures: http://ka7ftp.com/KX1/ 73 KA7FTP Len From ken at arcomcontrollers.com Fri May 27 11:06:10 2016 From: ken at arcomcontrollers.com (Ken Arck) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 08:06:10 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3: transverter schematic? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Unless it's changed since the K3s came out: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3_Schematics_Jun_2010.pdf Ken At 07:32 AM 5/27/2016, David Anderson via Elecraft wrote: >Is there a schematic diagram for the KX3 internal transverter series >available? > >I was sure I had seen one at some point in the past, perhaps it was >in some slide show by Elecraft when they introduced it, but I can't >locate it now. > > >73 from David GM4JJJ >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to ken at arcomcontrollers.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" From farrerfolks at yahoo.com Fri May 27 11:16:16 2016 From: farrerfolks at yahoo.com (Mel Farrer) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 15:16:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] Mast question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <709220364.336828.1464362176649.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Look into the Spiderbeam fiberglass poles.? Quite sturdy and all kinds of lengths.? Well within your budget. Mel, K6KBE From: George Dubovsky To: Reuben Popp Cc: Elecraft Reflector Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mast question I would look for 3 used sections of Rohn 25, then figure out how to safely bracket it to your house, if possible. That should be do-able for somewhere close to your budget and certainly capable of holding up a G5RV. 73, geo - n4ua On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 9:19 AM, Reuben Popp wrote: > Hey everyone, more of a beginner question here and not [directly] Elecraft > related. > > I have a K2 I built some time ago that I paired with a half size g5rv.? At > the time, I was living with a buddy whose house design allowed me to set > that antenna up as a sloper (and it worked quite well).? That said, some > years have passed, I'm married now and the house I live in now is much > smaller.? I have the antenna still, but it's merely laid along the vertex > of the roof.? Reception is so-so, but I know it could be much better.? So, > what can I use for a reliable mast that would be left up all the time? > > There's no trees in the lot. The house itself is a single level house on a > slab (no basement). and from end to end it's _maybe_ all of 40'.? The > distance from the ground to the vertex is maybe all of 16 feet (or there > abouts). > > The XYL said she doesn't want guy wires all over and a rohn style tower is > out of my budget.? I'm looking for suggestions that's preferably < $300, if > possible.? The locale is mid-east Missouri, about an hour outside St. > Louis; storms come and go but it's not like I'm in tornado country (if that > helps any). > > So, what do folks recommend? > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n4ua.va at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to farrerfolks at yahoo.com From neilmartinsenburrell at gmail.com Fri May 27 11:32:28 2016 From: neilmartinsenburrell at gmail.com (Neil Martinsen-Burrell) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 10:32:28 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Mast question In-Reply-To: <709220364.336828.1464362176649.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <709220364.336828.1464362176649.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Fiberglass poles such as those from Spiderbeam or Max-Gain Systems ( mgs4u.com) won't support very much load without guys which your wife disallowed (completely?). If you just want to support your G5RV above the level of your roof, then you could use two roof tripods like those used for TV antennas. Just put two 5-foot lengths of TV mast in each one and you'll be more than 25 feet above the ground and 10 feet clear of the roof. If you are an inveterate scrounger, you could almost certainly get these from the roofs of people who no longer use OTA TV antennas. When I drive around here, there are lots of TV antennas in states of disrepair that I'm sure the homeowners would be glad to get rid of. If you don't want to bolt through the roof, you could use bracketed wooden masts on each end of the house. You could also consider going to a longer open-wire fed doublet with the center over your roof, supported by the two roof towers, then extending off the house to a high attachment point on each end (you could use an eight foot T-post). With a tuner, you should be able to work all bands 80-6 once the total length of the antenna gets up around 90 feet (and it doesn't have to run in a straight line). -Neil N0FN On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft < elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote: > Look into the Spiderbeam fiberglass poles. Quite sturdy and all kinds of > lengths. Well within your budget. > Mel, K6KBE > > > From: George Dubovsky > To: Reuben Popp > Cc: Elecraft Reflector > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 7:19 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mast question > > I would look for 3 used sections of Rohn 25, then figure out how to safely > bracket it to your house, if possible. That should be do-able for somewhere > close to your budget and certainly capable of holding up a G5RV. > > 73, > > geo - n4ua > > On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 9:19 AM, Reuben Popp > wrote: > > > Hey everyone, more of a beginner question here and not [directly] > Elecraft > > related. > > > > I have a K2 I built some time ago that I paired with a half size g5rv. > At > > the time, I was living with a buddy whose house design allowed me to set > > that antenna up as a sloper (and it worked quite well). That said, some > > years have passed, I'm married now and the house I live in now is much > > smaller. I have the antenna still, but it's merely laid along the vertex > > of the roof. Reception is so-so, but I know it could be much better. > So, > > what can I use for a reliable mast that would be left up all the time? > > > > There's no trees in the lot. The house itself is a single level house on > a > > slab (no basement). and from end to end it's _maybe_ all of 40'. The > > distance from the ground to the vertex is maybe all of 16 feet (or there > > abouts). > > > > The XYL said she doesn't want guy wires all over and a rohn style tower > is > > out of my budget. I'm looking for suggestions that's preferably < $300, > if > > possible. The locale is mid-east Missouri, about an hour outside St. > > Louis; storms come and go but it's not like I'm in tornado country (if > that > > helps any). > > > > So, what do folks recommend? > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to n4ua.va at gmail.com > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to farrerfolks at yahoo.com > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to neilmartinsenburrell at gmail.com > From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Fri May 27 11:54:23 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 16:54:23 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3: transverter schematic? In-Reply-To: <20160527150727.B9925149B3E3@mailman.qth.net> References: <20160527150727.B9925149B3E3@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: <0F648FD4-3D9E-459F-A975-488502A7F311@yahoo.co.uk> Sorry Ken, that appears to be the K3 not KX3. 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 27 May 2016, at 16:06, Ken Arck wrote: > > Unless it's changed since the K3s came out: > > http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3_Schematics_Jun_2010.pdf > > Ken > > > At 07:32 AM 5/27/2016, David Anderson via Elecraft wrote: >> Is there a schematic diagram for the KX3 internal transverter series available? >> >> I was sure I had seen one at some point in the past, perhaps it was in some slide show by Elecraft when they introduced it, but I can't locate it now. >> >> >> 73 from David GM4JJJ >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ken at arcomcontrollers.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > President and CTO - Arcom Communications > Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. > http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ > Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and > we offer complete repeater packages! > AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 > http://www.irlp.net > "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk From ken at arcomcontrollers.com Fri May 27 12:00:32 2016 From: ken at arcomcontrollers.com (Ken Arck) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 09:00:32 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3: transverter schematic? In-Reply-To: <0F648FD4-3D9E-459F-A975-488502A7F311@yahoo.co.uk> References: <20160527150727.B9925149B3E3@mailman.qth.net> <0F648FD4-3D9E-459F-A975-488502A7F311@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi David As I said, unless it's changed since the K3...... (I'm not sure it has) Ken At 08:54 AM 5/27/2016, David Anderson wrote: >Sorry Ken, that appears to be the K3 not KX3. > >73 from David GM4JJJ > > > On 27 May 2016, at 16:06, Ken Arck wrote: > > > > Unless it's changed since the K3s came out: > > > > http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3_Schematics_Jun_2010.pdf > > > > Ken > > > > > > At 07:32 AM 5/27/2016, David Anderson via Elecraft wrote: > >> Is there a schematic diagram for the KX3 internal transverter > series available? > >> > >> I was sure I had seen one at some point in the past, perhaps it > was in some slide show by Elecraft when they introduced it, but I > can't locate it now. > >> > >> > >> 73 from David GM4JJJ > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> Message delivered to ken at arcomcontrollers.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > President and CTO - Arcom Communications > > Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. > > http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ > > Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and > > we offer complete repeater packages! > > AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 > > http://www.irlp.net > > "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" From rheming1 at sbcglobal.net Fri May 27 12:08:16 2016 From: rheming1 at sbcglobal.net (Richard W Hemingway) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 16:08:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] Failure to TX from Fldigi to K3s References: <1085829325.371371.1464365296459.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1085829325.371371.1464365296459.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I wish to thank all the people that have written to help me,Steve, Dvid, Elliott, Bob, Mike, Richard, and Gerald. ?I hope that I haven't left anyone out. ?Gerald, I used the file and now have the K3 description in Rig Cat. ?Thanks to all. Dick, N5XRD From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Fri May 27 12:14:20 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 17:14:20 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3: transverter schematic? In-Reply-To: <0F648FD4-3D9E-459F-A975-488502A7F311@yahoo.co.uk> References: <20160527150727.B9925149B3E3@mailman.qth.net> <0F648FD4-3D9E-459F-A975-488502A7F311@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: Sorry Ken, It is a completely different design, I know that much. For a start it is credit card sized and it takes the LO from the KX3 not a built in Xtal Osc. I may have imagined seeing the schematic or detailed block diagram in some presentation, but there appears to be nothing on the Elecraft site, and no schematic in the downloadable manual for the transverter, though it does give a brief written explanation of the transverter. I am surprised that a schematic isn't included with the transverter actually. 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 27 May 2016, at 17:00, Ken Arck wrote: > > > Hi David > > As I said, unless it's changed since the K3...... > > (I'm not sure it has) > > Ken > > At 08:54 AM 5/27/2016, David Anderson wrote: >> Sorry Ken, that appears to be the K3 not KX3. >> >> 73 from David GM4JJJ >> >> > On 27 May 2016, at 16:06, Ken Arck wrote: >> > >> > Unless it's changed since the K3s came out: >> > >> > http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3_Schematics_Jun_2010.pdf >> > >> > Ken >> > >> > >> > At 07:32 AM 5/27/2016, David Anderson via Elecraft wrote: >> >> Is there a schematic diagram for the KX3 internal transverter series available? >> >> >> >> I was sure I had seen one at some point in the past, perhaps it was in some slide show by Elecraft when they introduced it, but I can't locate it now. >> >> >> >> >> >> 73 from David GM4JJJ >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> >> Elecraft mailing list >> >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> Message delivered to ken at arcomcontrollers.com >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > President and CTO - Arcom Communications >> > Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. >> > http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ >> > Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and >> > we offer complete repeater packages! >> > AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 >> > http://www.irlp.net >> > "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" >> > >> > ______________________________________________________________ >> > Elecraft mailing list >> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> > >> > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > President and CTO - Arcom Communications > Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. > http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ > Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and > we offer complete repeater packages! > AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 > http://www.irlp.net > "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" > From fritzejohn at gmail.com Fri May 27 12:27:21 2016 From: fritzejohn at gmail.com (John Fritze) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 12:27:21 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 #79 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I ordered about 10:45 AM EDT on Wednesday while sitting at the FDIM seminars at Dayton as soon as I saw the order page go live. KX2 #79 arrived today in Albany NY. Kewl! Can't wait to fire it up along with my KX3 to compare over this weekend. From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Fri May 27 12:32:02 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 09:32:02 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Mast question In-Reply-To: <709220364.336828.1464362176649.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <709220364.336828.1464362176649.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <57487682.9040800@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Fri,5/27/2016 8:16 AM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft wrote: > Look into the Spiderbeam fiberglass poles. Quite sturdy and all kinds of lengths. Well within your budget. NOT sturdy. If you're going to use one, it MUST be well guyed, contrary to advertising and photos on their website. A simple solution I used on the house I owned in Chicago were Radio Shack tripods and masts designed for holding TV antennas. One at the front peak of the house roof and another at the peak of the garage roof held up a loaded 80/40 dipole (about 100 ft long, with loading coils, purchased from HyPower Antenna Co). Those masts WERE guyed, using #12 insulated copper, and I loaded one of them as a vertical on 30M and 10M, with radials, of course. Another option worth considering is a multi-band vertical on your roof. Antennas like the HyGain AV620 AV640, and AV680, the the Cushcraft R6, R8,and R9 are good choices -- they're well designed and don't need radials. Lots of ideas in this piece that I wrote last year for National Contest Journal. http://k9yc.com/AntennaPlanning.pdf and the slides for a talk I've done at Pacificon and for several ham clubs. It includes photos of the TV masts. http://k9yc.com/LimitedSpaceAntennasPPT.pdf 73, Jim K9YC From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Fri May 27 12:39:29 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 17:39:29 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3: transverter schematic? I have it! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks to a kind person on this list, I have a copy of the schematic for the KX3 2m transverter. It is the one I recall, but have no idea where I saw it before. Please don't ask me for a copy as I don't know the status of this and don't want to get into any trouble with party. I am not thinking of copying it by the way! - I just ordered the 4m version and am arming myself with as much info as I can before it arrives. 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 27 May 2016, at 15:32, David Anderson via Elecraft wrote: > > Is there a schematic diagram for the KX3 internal transverter series available? > > I was sure I had seen one at some point in the past, perhaps it was in some slide show by Elecraft when they introduced it, but I can't locate it now. > > > 73 from David GM4JJJ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk From nq5t at tx.rr.com Fri May 27 12:42:16 2016 From: nq5t at tx.rr.com (GRANT YOUNGMAN) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 11:42:16 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Mast question In-Reply-To: References: <709220364.336828.1464362176649.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I?ve tried fiberglass poles (from one of the vendors mentioned here, supposedly with UV inhibitors) for permanent installation. Didn?t work out well. After a couple of years, the push-up poles started to break down anyway and couldn?t be handled without gloves unless I wanted nasty fiberglass fuzz imbedded in my hands. They ended up going out in the trash. There are certainly a lot of other options, and some have been suggested here. I finally ended up using a Spiderbeam aluminum push-up mast. These are very high quality products, which could easily be house bracketed to eliminate the need for guys, and much more suited to permanent installation. My mast (a 30-something ft HD version) was supported by a ground mounted rotator and guys, and held a Hex beam before I had to pull it down to sell my QTH. Not the same application, obviously, but an excellent quality product, and not outlandishly expensive. YMMV Grant NQ5T K3 #2091, KX3 #8342 > > Fiberglass poles such as those from Spiderbeam or Max-Gain Systems ( > mgs4u.com ) won't support very much load without guys >> Look into the Spiderbeam fiberglass poles. Quite sturdy and all kinds of >> lengths. Well within your budget. From nr4c at widomaker.com Fri May 27 13:04:55 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 13:04:55 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3: transverter schematic? In-Reply-To: <20160527160356.B25E5149B64E@mailman.qth.net> References: <20160527150727.B9925149B3E3@mailman.qth.net> <0F648FD4-3D9E-459F-A975-488502A7F311@yahoo.co.uk> <20160527160356.B25E5149B64E@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: <587521B2-82DE-423E-9E12-5C07F919800E@widomaker.com> I'm betting the 2 m XVRTER for the KX3 is different circuit than the internal one for the K3. It's also a very different form factor. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 27, 2016, at 12:00 PM, Ken Arck wrote: > > > Hi David > > As I said, unless it's changed since the K3...... > > (I'm not sure it has) > > Ken > > At 08:54 AM 5/27/2016, David Anderson wrote: >> Sorry Ken, that appears to be the K3 not KX3. >> >> 73 from David GM4JJJ >> >> > On 27 May 2016, at 16:06, Ken Arck wrote: >> > >> > Unless it's changed since the K3s came out: >> > >> > http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3_Schematics_Jun_2010.pdf >> > >> > Ken >> > >> > >> > At 07:32 AM 5/27/2016, David Anderson via Elecraft wrote: >> >> Is there a schematic diagram for the KX3 internal transverter series available? >> >> >> >> I was sure I had seen one at some point in the past, perhaps it was in some slide show by Elecraft when they introduced it, but I can't locate it now. >> >> >> >> >> >> 73 from David GM4JJJ >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> >> Elecraft mailing list >> >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> Message delivered to ken at arcomcontrollers.com >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > President and CTO - Arcom Communications >> > Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. >> > http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ >> > Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and >> > we offer complete repeater packages! >> > AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 >> > http://www.irlp.net >> > "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" >> > >> > ______________________________________________________________ >> > Elecraft mailing list >> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> > >> > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > President and CTO - Arcom Communications > Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. > http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ > Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and > we offer complete repeater packages! > AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 > http://www.irlp.net > "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From alan_geller2001 at yahoo.com Fri May 27 13:16:48 2016 From: alan_geller2001 at yahoo.com (Alan Geller) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 10:16:48 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Output power rating Message-ID: The KX3 is now being positioned as the 15 watt big brother to the smaller KX2 ?up to 10 watts? version. The upper limit on my KX3 power adjustment seems to have always been around 10.2 watts. How does one safely achieve this 15 watt performance? Does it require the new/upgrade heatsink plus a new firmware version? I have always used an approx. 14 Volt power source. I?m sure this has been addressed before but I don?t see the history?thanks for any observations. alan/K6ADG From ken at arcomcontrollers.com Fri May 27 13:26:42 2016 From: ken at arcomcontrollers.com (Ken Arck) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 10:26:42 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Output power rating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You really worried about 1.67 dB? At 10:16 AM 5/27/2016, Alan Geller via Elecraft wrote: >The KX3 is now being positioned as the 15 watt >big brother to the smaller KX2 ???up to 10 >watts??? version. The upper limit on my KX3 >power adjustment seems to have always been >around 10.2 watts. How does one safely achieve >this 15 watt performance? Does it require the >new/upgrade heatsink plus a new firmware >version? I have always used an approx. 14 Volt >power source. I???m sure this has been addressed >before but I don???t see the history thanks foor >any observations. alan/K6ADG >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list Home: >http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: >mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted >by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to ken at arcomcontrollers.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" From n6kr at elecraft.com Fri May 27 13:32:21 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 10:32:21 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Output power rating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0533E8EB-3D2E-41F8-985B-713FAD28A6D2@elecraft.com> The latest firmware is required; it will allow you to use up to 15 W on 80-20 m (10 W elsewhere). The upgraded heatsink is optional. On my lab KX3 I can put out 15 watts for several minutes before hitting the temperature limit, at which power is reduced by firmware. 73, Wayne N6KR On May 27, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Alan Geller via Elecraft wrote: > The KX3 is now being positioned as the 15 watt big brother to the smaller KX2 ?up to 10 watts? version. The upper > limit on my KX3 power adjustment seems to have always been around 10.2 watts. How does one safely achieve this > 15 watt performance? Does it require the new/upgrade heatsink plus a new firmware version? I have always used an > approx. 14 Volt power source. > > I?m sure this has been addressed before but I don?t see the history?thanks for any observations. > > alan/K6ADG > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From ron at cobi.biz Fri May 27 13:36:07 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 10:36:07 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Balun BL2 In-Reply-To: <36AAF8E3-58CF-4E10-AA18-0EA9147092E5@wunderwood.org> References: <2000883942.8371721.1464311047331.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <36AAF8E3-58CF-4E10-AA18-0EA9147092E5@wunderwood.org> Message-ID: <005701d1b83e$404d83c0$c0e88b40$@biz> Keep in mind that the only source of the heating in the core is the RF power applied. Every watt used to make heat is a watt never radiated. A hot core will eventually reach its Curie temperature that causes the inductance to drop to a very low level. At that point it is no longer functioning as a balun, transformer or whatever. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Walter Underwood Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 8:46 PM To: Elecraft List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Balun BL2 You might look at the ?QRP? baluns from Balun Designs. They are designed for 250 W and cost about $50. Excellent design and construction. http://www.balundesigns.com/low-power-qrp-baluns/ wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On May 26, 2016, at 6:04 PM, jsodus at comcast.net wrote: > > Hello, > I'm contemplating buying the BL2 balun. > It would be connected to 450-ohm transmission-line, which would go to a version of W1AB's "killer-antenna", sized for 20m on a 31' jackite-pole. > > A reviewer of the BL2, on eham five years ago, commented about heat and signal-loss. > The heat and signal-loss concern me, not at the QRP-level but higher wattage. > I realize it is spec'd at 250 W but how hot does it get? > > I've looked for data about insertion-loss for the BL2 and came up short there. > Hopefully someone has measured the insertion-loss and could share that data. > > The "elecraft BL2 assembly and operating manual" has the cores as ferrite material. > But ferrites exhibit non-linear properties, so the loss may be a function, not only of frequency, but also drive-level. > Insertion-loss shows up as heat and that heat affects the properties of the ferrite. > > As I wrote above, I'm not concerned about QRP operation. > If I put it into operation on FD and but take my KX3 home for the day, what happens if a club-member connects his 100+ W rig to the antenna-system to operate thru the night? > TIA for any reply. > > 73 Jerry KM3K > KX3 #6088 > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > wunder at wunderwood.org ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From K9YEQ at live.com Fri May 27 13:45:48 2016 From: K9YEQ at live.com (Bill Johnson) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 12:45:48 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX2 in AM mode Message-ID: My goodness how time flies and we age.Bill Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
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From: Phil Wheeler
Date: 5/26/16 5:19 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: Wayne Burdick , Elecraft Reflector
Cc: KX3 at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX2 in AM mode
Wayne, One reason I invest in Elecraft rigs, and have from the beginning, is the way they evolve over time. That magnifies the thrill of ownership for me. And, unlike the K2 where firmware upgrades meant ordering ($$) and disassembly to change out a firmware chip, now we simply download the updates and run the utility. Kudos on a fine -- yea, irresistible -- new product, and also on the way Elecraft has evolved with the technology over the past 17 years. 73, Phil W7OX On 5/26/16 2:57 PM, Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com [KX3] wrote: > > The KX2 has general-coverage receive, including > all popular AM SWL broadcast ranges. While it > doesn't directly support AM demodulation, you > can use USB or LSB to copy AM. This works really > well. You can choose the sideband that has lower > QRM, and widen the AF passband out as far as 4 > kHz (equivalent to an 8-kHz AM filter). You can > turn on the auto-notch to remove > adjacent-channel carriers. > > AM is also on the wich-list as a possible future > [free] firmware upgrade. > > Wayne, N6KR > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k9yeq at live.com From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Fri May 27 13:54:31 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 10:54:31 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Mast question In-Reply-To: References: <709220364.336828.1464362176649.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <30758351-ce17-4224-8196-3ae9089bd7bb@triconet.org> A number of years ago I purchased two 20' lengths of 2" square, 1/8" wall fiberglass tubing for the boom of an LPD array that I never built. They have been laying outside on the ground in the Arizona sun since then. They are still as smooth as the day I brought them home. Contrast that to some of the mil surplus fiberglass tubing sections that have gone in the trash in a shorter time. The good stuff is made by Strongwell and is used for handrail systems. On 5/27/2016 9:42 AM, GRANT YOUNGMAN wrote: > I?ve tried fiberglass poles (from one of the vendors mentioned here, supposedly with UV inhibitors) for permanent installation. Didn?t work out well. After a couple of years, the push-up poles started to break down anyway and couldn?t be handled without gloves unless I wanted nasty fiberglass fuzz imbedded in my hands. They ended up going out in the trash. > > There are certainly a lot of other options, and some have been suggested here. I finally ended up using a Spiderbeam aluminum push-up mast. These are very high quality products, which could easily be house bracketed to eliminate the need for guys, and much more suited to permanent installation. My mast (a 30-something ft HD version) was supported by a ground mounted rotator and guys, and held a Hex beam before I had to pull it down to sell my QTH. Not the same application, obviously, but an excellent quality product, and not outlandishly expensive. > > YMMV > > Grant NQ5T > K3 #2091, KX3 #8342 > > > > >> Fiberglass poles such as those from Spiderbeam or Max-Gain Systems ( >> mgs4u.com ) won't support very much load without guys >>> Look into the Spiderbeam fiberglass poles. Quite sturdy and all kinds of >>> lengths. Well within your budget. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wes_n7ws at triconet.org From drunkkennedy at gmail.com Fri May 27 13:56:37 2016 From: drunkkennedy at gmail.com (JJ) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 13:56:37 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Mast question Message-ID: 3 16' 2X4's and you're in business. Google 2X4 antenna mast. Good luck and 73, Jon WS1K From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Fri May 27 14:23:05 2016 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 21:23:05 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] Mast question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You could put up a TV-type 10-foot mast on each end of the roof using a pair of eave mounts for each one. Then run the antenna between them. There isn't enough room for the whole antenna, but you can bend the ends down on either end. You would need a third mast in the middle of the roof to support the feed line and keep the center from sagging. That one would need guys, but they would all be above roof level. Vic 4X6GP > On 27 May 2016, at 4:19 PM, Reuben Popp wrote: > > Hey everyone, more of a beginner question here and not [directly] Elecraft > related. > > I have a K2 I built some time ago that I paired with a half size g5rv. At > the time, I was living with a buddy whose house design allowed me to set > that antenna up as a sloper (and it worked quite well). That said, some > years have passed, I'm married now and the house I live in now is much > smaller. I have the antenna still, but it's merely laid along the vertex > of the roof. Reception is so-so, but I know it could be much better. So, > what can I use for a reliable mast that would be left up all the time? > > There's no trees in the lot. The house itself is a single level house on a > slab (no basement). and from end to end it's _maybe_ all of 40'. The > distance from the ground to the vertex is maybe all of 16 feet (or there > abouts). > > The XYL said she doesn't want guy wires all over and a rohn style tower is > out of my budget. I'm looking for suggestions that's preferably < $300, if > possible. The locale is mid-east Missouri, about an hour outside St. > Louis; storms come and go but it's not like I'm in tornado country (if that > helps any). > > So, what do folks recommend? > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2vco.vic at gmail.com From ron at cobi.biz Fri May 27 14:55:53 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 11:55:53 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Mast question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005b01d1b849$65256d10$2f704730$@biz> That and similar designs are in almost any ARRL Handbook from the 1930's into the ARRL Antenna manuals of the 1960's. Sometimes the old designs are the best designs. Living on a postage-stamp sized lot a few years ago and not wanting a huge ugly mast I erected an inverted vee using a mast made out of five 1x2 pieces of lumber. Each length was only 8 feet. They were arranged in a T formation with the edge of one screwed and glued against the wide part of the other and staggered so solid wood bridged the butted joints. The last 1X2 was used to make short sections for further reinforce the joints. I mounted it on the house just outside the shack window with the base about 10 feet up, so the total height was just under 30 feet at the peak: OK for 40 meter NVIS (many QRP contacts out to 1500 miles or so and the occasional DX) and perfect for 20 meters and up to pick up maximum low-angle earth reflections. Painted white, the mast had to be pointed out to people outside before they noticed it and it held my doublet for a number of years until we moved away. With the mast supported in two places about 4 feet apart near the bottom and the inverted V providing some self-guying at the top, it needed no further support. I, too, had limited length available. No trees and just the peak of the roof and garage for end supports. I'm a fan of doublets (non-half wave center fed wires) and fed mine with open wire line. Not liking ribbon line much, I picked up some 12 ga house wire and a bunch of white "dog-bone" antenna insulators at HRO along with a handful of screw-in standoffs for TV "ladder line". I popped the insulators for the ladder line out of the screw eyes and screwed them into the mast at about 4 ft intervals. Then I opened the eyes enough to clamp them around the center grove in the dog bone insulators (ladder line eyelets are quite soft metal -unlike real "screw eyes". The insulators were about 4 inches hole-to-hole, which made great ladder line spacing. A short piece of wire wrapped around each feeder where it passed through the hole in the insulator kept it from shifting. Only a few were needed. Screwing the eyelets into the pole kept the line stable in any wind and the white insulators and white wires were darn near invisible from 20 feet unless they were pointed out. My radiator was about 60 feet overall, plenty to work with very high efficiency on 40 and up and I made a number of contacts on 80 M. One thing you can do to get more room for a resonant wire is to bend it at the ends up to 90 degrees. If the ends can go to the peak of your roof just continue the wire on down to the eaves keeping it several inches from the roof (assuming you don't have a metal roof). You should pick up 15 feet or so at each end that way. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of JJ Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 10:57 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Mast question 3 16' 2X4's and you're in business. Google 2X4 antenna mast. Good luck and 73, Jon WS1K From donwilh at embarqmail.com Fri May 27 15:01:17 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 15:01:17 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Mast question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5c8485f7-a92b-7b83-1d4c-8ffceab91069@embarqmail.com> Reuben, If you do not want to go much higher than 30 feet, and are willing to bracket the mast to the house peak, you can use 3 lengths of chain-link fence top rail. It is relatively inexpensive and a 30 foot mast can be "walked up" by one person (don't try it with 40 feet). With the mast supported about halfway up you should not need any guy wires unless you get high winds or the antenna is quite heavy. I have used up to 20 feet of that chain-link top rail sections unsupported above the bracket successfully here. If you go higher, guy wires would be mandatory. You could guy to the corners of the house and run the antenna legs in a direction opposite those guy wires for full "guying" of the mast. I am thinking the antenna would be in an inverted Vee configuration with the antenna ends connected to a fence or to a post in the ground so the wires are above head level. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/27/2016 9:19 AM, Reuben Popp wrote: > Hey everyone, more of a beginner question here and not [directly] Elecraft > related. > > I have a K2 I built some time ago that I paired with a half size g5rv. At > the time, I was living with a buddy whose house design allowed me to set > that antenna up as a sloper (and it worked quite well). That said, some > years have passed, I'm married now and the house I live in now is much > smaller. I have the antenna still, but it's merely laid along the vertex > of the roof. Reception is so-so, but I know it could be much better. So, > what can I use for a reliable mast that would be left up all the time? > > There's no trees in the lot. The house itself is a single level house on a > slab (no basement). and from end to end it's _maybe_ all of 40'. The > distance from the ground to the vertex is maybe all of 16 feet (or there > abouts). From wbraun at insight.rr.com Fri May 27 16:08:45 2016 From: wbraun at insight.rr.com (Bill Braun) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 16:08:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Operating the Ten Tec 422B Amp QSK with a K3/K3S Message-ID: <7A981983A4AB4981A220EB6701DADD95@BillPC> Has anyone had experience using a Ten Tec 422B Centurion Amp that normally uses a Transceiver/Amp ?Keying Loop? with a K3/K3S in QSK mode? Bill, K8ZCT From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Fri May 27 16:42:08 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 13:42:08 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Operating the Ten Tec 422B Amp QSK with a K3/K3S In-Reply-To: <7A981983A4AB4981A220EB6701DADD95@BillPC> References: <7A981983A4AB4981A220EB6701DADD95@BillPC> Message-ID: <5748B120.2030207@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Fri,5/27/2016 1:08 PM, Bill Braun wrote: > Has anyone had experience using a Ten Tec 422B Centurion Amp that normally uses a Transceiver/Amp ?Keying Loop? with a K3/K3S in QSK mode? Hi Bill, My experience with Ten Tec amps is that they work just fine without using the keying loop if you simply feed the AMP Key out of the K3 to the PTT input of the amp. I've done this quite successfully with my three Titan 425s (Ten Tec's original legal limit amp) and my Hercules II. Set the K3 for full QSK. This doesn't keep up with fast CW at full QSK (more than about 30 wpm), but it's fine below that. For higher speeds, set the K3 for semi-break-in. That's how I use it, both because I often run faster than 30 wpm during contests, and because I got tired of changing vacuum relays in the Titan in the middle of a contest. :) The default delay PTT setting in the K3 is fine for the amps I own. I don't know about the 422B, but Ten Tec amps are protected from hot switching, so if your amp doesn't key, simply make that delay setting a few msec longer. See the menu section of the manual for info on how to set it. 73, Jim K9YC From etksubs at gmail.com Fri May 27 17:31:12 2016 From: etksubs at gmail.com (etksubs at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 17:31:12 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 issues / questions /suggestions Message-ID: I recently bought a PX3 for my KX3, and I really love it. I had played with panadapter software on my computer, but since I use a Mac the offerings are rather limited and even using Windows in a VM getting it to work the way I wanted was cumbersome to say the least. The PX3 is great since it?s basically plug and play, and its size and portability are awesome! So after having used it for a couple of weeks I have some comments. I guess most/all are related to waterfall since I find that the most useful aspect of the product. I live in a condo so due to antenna limitations and noise floor the spectrum display alone isn?t very useful. 1) The Freeze feature freezes everything. It would be really great if it would just stop the waterfall (maybe the spectrum too), but still allow manipulation of other elements, e.g. markers. I would use it if I were to see something I want to look at but maybe about to go off screen, so I?d like to move a marker over to that in order to switch frequencies, etc. 2) Allow the marker line itself to extend into the waterfall, not just for history, to allow aligning with historical data. It would be useful to align with signals that are there but have not scrolled off yet. 3) Move the waterfall data on the screen when shifting frequencies in tracking mode. I know you won?t have data for the new parts of the spectrum coming into view, but it?s hard for the user to readjust to shifting data that no longer corresponds to the spectrum above. The same goes for fixed mode if you configure to jump a half span. 4) Add something like a 3/4 - 1/4 FixMode option. As I?m scrolling up frequency (or down) I have to wait til I get all the way to the end to see what?s ahead. Of course enhancing tracking mode as above might obviate the need for this. 5) Or maybe add a ?shift view? that I can set to a Fn button and rotate the know to move the display left or right. Currently I do this by switching to tracking mode to center the current frequency and then back to fixed. Or maybe have ?Center? in fixed mode center the current frequency? 5) Add a full-band view. I know you won?t necessarily have full-width data due to bandwidth limitations but it?s nice to see where you are in the entire band. Just a nice-to-have thing. 6) Add visual band end markers. Also just nice-to-have. 7) One quirk I see is when switching the tracking mode the Ref level is different. It reports the same value in each, but the base level is obviously different based on the spectrum display behaviour and I have to readjust it every time. Thanks for listening! Thanks and 73, Erik Tkal - W1QED From etksubs at gmail.com Fri May 27 17:41:54 2016 From: etksubs at gmail.com (Erik Tkal) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 17:41:54 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 suggestion for additional "General" band Message-ID: <9D96F78D-4073-4347-BE8F-F9A6EED298B6@gmail.com> I do some SWLing using my Sony shortwave, and had been lately on my FTdx3000. Now that I have a KX3 I find some limitations with it. Let?s say I start low in the 160m band, set the mode to AM, and start scrolling up frequencies. At some point I cross over into 80m, then 40m. At that point I switch bands to go listen to 20m. But when I go back to 40m it is now set to AM since that?s where I happened to leave off my SWLing. It would be nice if there were an additional ?band" that isn?t necessarily tied to the amateur bands but is independent. The FTdx3000 has a GEN band button for this purpose, so as to not interfere with the saved positions in the other bands. Has this been suggested in the past? Thanks and 73, Erik Tkal - W1QED From wunder at wunderwood.org Fri May 27 17:45:34 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 14:45:34 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 suggestion for additional "General" band In-Reply-To: <9D96F78D-4073-4347-BE8F-F9A6EED298B6@gmail.com> References: <9D96F78D-4073-4347-BE8F-F9A6EED298B6@gmail.com> Message-ID: I?m pretty sure I suggested it a long time ago. A GEN band would be really handy. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On May 27, 2016, at 2:41 PM, Erik Tkal wrote: > > I do some SWLing using my Sony shortwave, and had been lately on my FTdx3000. Now that I have a KX3 I find some limitations with it. > > Let?s say I start low in the 160m band, set the mode to AM, and start scrolling up frequencies. At some point I cross over into 80m, then 40m. At that point I switch bands to go listen to 20m. But when I go back to 40m it is now set to AM since that?s where I happened to leave off my SWLing. > > It would be nice if there were an additional ?band" that isn?t necessarily tied to the amateur bands but is independent. The FTdx3000 has a GEN band button for this purpose, so as to not interfere with the saved positions in the other bands. > > Has this been suggested in the past? > > > Thanks and 73, > Erik Tkal - W1QED > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From nq5t at tx.rr.com Fri May 27 18:04:48 2016 From: nq5t at tx.rr.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 17:04:48 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 suggestion for additional "General" band In-Reply-To: <9D96F78D-4073-4347-BE8F-F9A6EED298B6@gmail.com> References: <9D96F78D-4073-4347-BE8F-F9A6EED298B6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <22657839-56E5-4085-A588-F5FA6793BDBE@tx.rr.com> I use the 10m band slot for this purpose. It's relatively simple to reset for 10m CW if I want to go there, which is rare Grant NQ5T Sent from my iPhone > On May 27, 2016, at 4:41 PM, Erik Tkal wrote: > > I do some SWLing using my Sony shortwave, and had been lately on my FTdx3000. Now that I have a KX3 I find some limitations with it. > > Let?s say I start low in the 160m band, set the mode to AM, and start scrolling up frequencies. At some point I cross over into 80m, then 40m. At that point I switch bands to go listen to 20m. But when I go back to 40m it is now set to AM since that?s where I happened to leave off my SWLing. > > From nq5t at tx.rr.com Fri May 27 18:24:48 2016 From: nq5t at tx.rr.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 17:24:48 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 suggestion for additional "General" band In-Reply-To: <22657839-56E5-4085-A588-F5FA6793BDBE@tx.rr.com> References: <9D96F78D-4073-4347-BE8F-F9A6EED298B6@gmail.com> <22657839-56E5-4085-A588-F5FA6793BDBE@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <9489CA15-084D-4E79-A337-EC09068BC061@tx.rr.com> Hmmm .. On second thought, you're right. It does depend on where you leave off. Ok. I'm on board for a GEN band setting Sent from my iPhone > On May 27, 2016, at 5:04 PM, Grant Youngman wrote: > > I use the 10m band slot for this purpose. It's relatively simple to reset for 10m CW if I want to go there, which is rare > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 27, 2016, at 4:41 PM, Erik Tkal wrote: >> >> I do some SWLing using my Sony shortwave, and had been lately on my FTdx3000. Now that I have a KX3 I find some limitations with it. >> >> Let?s say I start low in the 160m band, set the mode to AM, and start scrolling up frequencies. At some point I cross over into 80m, then 40m. At that point I switch bands to go listen to 20m. But when I go back to 40m it is now set to AM since that?s where I happened to leave off my SWLing. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nq5t at tx.rr.com From etksubs at gmail.com Fri May 27 18:55:02 2016 From: etksubs at gmail.com (Erik Tkal) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 18:55:02 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 suggestion for additional "General" band In-Reply-To: <9489CA15-084D-4E79-A337-EC09068BC061@tx.rr.com> References: <9D96F78D-4073-4347-BE8F-F9A6EED298B6@gmail.com> <22657839-56E5-4085-A588-F5FA6793BDBE@tx.rr.com> <9489CA15-084D-4E79-A337-EC09068BC061@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: Right, it?s the jumping off point. And it isn?t til you go back to that band later that you realizes something?s not quite right, because you never intended to change anything there, so the frequency and mode are off. Makes me think of Orlando Bloom in Pirates of the Caribbean - ?That?s not where I left you?? Thanks and 73, Erik Tkal - W1QED > On May 27, 2016, at 18:24, Grant Youngman wrote: > > Hmmm .. On second thought, you're right. It does depend on where you leave off. Ok. I'm on board for a GEN band setting > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 27, 2016, at 5:04 PM, Grant Youngman wrote: >> >> I use the 10m band slot for this purpose. It's relatively simple to reset for 10m CW if I want to go there, which is rare >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 27, 2016, at 4:41 PM, Erik Tkal wrote: >>> >>> I do some SWLing using my Sony shortwave, and had been lately on my FTdx3000. Now that I have a KX3 I find some limitations with it. >>> >>> Let?s say I start low in the 160m band, set the mode to AM, and start scrolling up frequencies. At some point I cross over into 80m, then 40m. At that point I switch bands to go listen to 20m. But when I go back to 40m it is now set to AM since that?s where I happened to leave off my SWLing. >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to nq5t at tx.rr.com > From wbraun at insight.rr.com Fri May 27 18:57:06 2016 From: wbraun at insight.rr.com (Bill Braun) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 18:57:06 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Operating the Ten Tec 422B Amp QSK with a K3/K3S In-Reply-To: <5748B120.2030207@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <7A981983A4AB4981A220EB6701DADD95@BillPC> <5748B120.2030207@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: Hi Jim, Thanks for the quick reply. This is what I was hoping to hear. The 422B has been a reliable amp and I didn?t want to do anything that would mess it or the K3S up. I had some concerns about the Ten Tec method of keying with non Ten Tec transceivers that I found in my 422B manual. I didn?t like the idea of plugging a key into the Ten Tec amp and feeding back to the non Ten Tec transceiver(K3S)"key jack" with a cable from the "key out" of the amplifier. I would like to use all the built-in keying features of the K3S and not use an external keyer. I will set the 422B to PTT/VOX and run the one cable per your recommendation. 73, Bill, K8ZCT -----Original Message----- From: Jim Brown Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 4:42 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Operating the Ten Tec 422B Amp QSK with a K3/K3S On Fri,5/27/2016 1:08 PM, Bill Braun wrote: > Has anyone had experience using a Ten Tec 422B Centurion Amp that normally > uses a Transceiver/Amp ?Keying Loop? with a K3/K3S in QSK mode? Hi Bill, My experience with Ten Tec amps is that they work just fine without using the keying loop if you simply feed the AMP Key out of the K3 to the PTT input of the amp. I've done this quite successfully with my three Titan 425s (Ten Tec's original legal limit amp) and my Hercules II. Set the K3 for full QSK. This doesn't keep up with fast CW at full QSK (more than about 30 wpm), but it's fine below that. For higher speeds, set the K3 for semi-break-in. That's how I use it, both because I often run faster than 30 wpm during contests, and because I got tired of changing vacuum relays in the Titan in the middle of a contest. :) The default delay PTT setting in the K3 is fine for the amps I own. I don't know about the 422B, but Ten Tec amps are protected from hot switching, so if your amp doesn't key, simply make that delay setting a few msec longer. See the menu section of the manual for info on how to set it. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k8zct at arrl.net From davidahrendts at me.com Fri May 27 19:25:03 2016 From: davidahrendts at me.com (David Ahrendts) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 16:25:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] OT Amptec LA2000 Linear Amp Message-ID: I am 100% totally, absolutely in love with my KPA500 linear amp. It is incredible. Fail safe. Loyal. Attractive. Beautiful. ?? There are times, however, that I dream of a little more horse power. Would any of you trust the Amptec LA2000: http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMPTEC-LA2000-2000W-HF-tube-linear-amplifier/272234339459?_trksid=p2060778.c100276.m3476&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140725133649%26meid%3Da46bc7a1c1274120a571252811a8f6bb%26pid%3D100276%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121996613826 David Ahrendts, KK6DA, Los Angeles David Ahrendts davidahrendts at me.com From w8dn at roadrunner.com Fri May 27 20:05:51 2016 From: w8dn at roadrunner.com (Mike Rhodes) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 20:05:51 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] OT Amptec LA2000 Linear Amp In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8a128c7f-3a81-c3e7-3117-190254951a44@roadrunner.com> From va3mw at portcredit.net Fri May 27 20:13:45 2016 From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 20:13:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] OT Amptec LA2000 Linear Amp In-Reply-To: <8a128c7f-3a81-c3e7-3117-190254951a44@roadrunner.com> References: <8a128c7f-3a81-c3e7-3117-190254951a44@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: You know it is only 1 S unit more... 6db. It is the first 500 watts that count. Mike va3mw On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Mike Rhodes wrote: > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to va3mw at portcredit.net > From k2av.guy at gmail.com Fri May 27 20:24:28 2016 From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 20:24:28 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] OT Amptec LA2000 Linear Amp In-Reply-To: <8a128c7f-3a81-c3e7-3117-190254951a44@roadrunner.com> References: <8a128c7f-3a81-c3e7-3117-190254951a44@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: I have a KPA500, and an Alpha 8410. The 8410, running a pair of 4cx1000A tetrodes in conventional AB1, can deal with rather high SWR directly without grid current that can destroy a tube. However, if any of the complex supporting monitoring circuitry or protection circuity goes blewwy, one needs the nearby manufacturer who will actually have the parts to fix it. Elecraft is all there for you and easy to get to. With higher freight charges for all the extra weight and size, so is Alpha. The crucial element is whether it can be serviced in the US by someone who will have the parts and can honor a warranty. For me it was a good thing that the Alpha boys were around because mine suffered a very weird blowup in the screen circuitry that took a lot of stuff with it. Alpha fixed it, and it's back on line. Who's the servicing in the US for Amptec and what kind of a reputation do they have? Funny you would come on the Elecraft reflector to ask about Amptec. Time to go Google and chase leads. Then there's the other thing, that you only need the extra S unit for QSO's that are at the edge of serviceable propagation. I had a friend that sold his Acom 2000 after he had his KPA500 for a while. Breaking a pileup is way more between the ears than between the conductors on the power cord. Good luck in any event. 73, Guy K2AV On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Mike Rhodes wrote: > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2av.guy at gmail.com > From donwilh at embarqmail.com Fri May 27 20:27:35 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 20:27:35 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] OT Amptec LA2000 Linear Amp In-Reply-To: References: <8a128c7f-3a81-c3e7-3117-190254951a44@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <70fad90c-120b-385b-58cd-3c4a3cb5a837@embarqmail.com> If you are QRP oriented, then the first 5 watts counts. To get a 1 dB increase (6 dB), one needs to quadruple the power - 20 watts. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/27/2016 8:13 PM, Michael Walker wrote: > You know it is only 1 S unit more... 6db. > > It is the first 500 watts that count. > > From n9sc at comcast.net Fri May 27 19:19:03 2016 From: n9sc at comcast.net (Elecraft) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 02:19:03 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] that's really awesome Message-ID: <0000490b01e6$32958b44$dcc94012$@comcast.net> hi, I think this story is really awesome, you're gonna love it, please read it here Elecraft From w8dn at roadrunner.com Fri May 27 20:38:01 2016 From: w8dn at roadrunner.com (Mike Rhodes) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 20:38:01 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] OT Amptec LA2000 Linear Amp In-Reply-To: <8a128c7f-3a81-c3e7-3117-190254951a44@roadrunner.com> References: <8a128c7f-3a81-c3e7-3117-190254951a44@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: From donwilh at embarqmail.com Fri May 27 20:40:49 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 20:40:49 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] OT Amptec LA2000 Linear Amp In-Reply-To: References: <8a128c7f-3a81-c3e7-3117-190254951a44@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: My mistake - 1 S-unit increase is 6 dB, not 1 dB. 73, Don W3FPR If you are QRP oriented, then the first 5 watts counts. To get a 1 dB increase (6 dB), one needs to quadruple the power - 20 watts. 73, Don W3FPR From w8dn at roadrunner.com Fri May 27 20:41:57 2016 From: w8dn at roadrunner.com (Mike Rhodes) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 20:41:57 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] OT Amptec LA2000 Linear Amp In-Reply-To: References: <8a128c7f-3a81-c3e7-3117-190254951a44@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <59247c00-b78e-0d68-c3ee-93b83aed78dc@roadrunner.com> ...did I get it yet? On 5/27/2016 8:38 PM, Mike Rhodes wrote: > ...sorry about the resend but hopefully it will arrive with content > this time. > > On 5/27/2016 8:05 PM, Mike Rhodes wrote: >> ...a trip back for service or updates is going to cost a fortune!! >> >> Mike / W8DN >> >> On 5/27/2016 7:25 PM, David Ahrendts wrote: >>> I am 100% totally, absolutely in love with my KPA500 linear amp. It is incredible. Fail safe. Loyal. Attractive. Beautiful. ?? There are times, however, that I dream of a little more horse power. Would any of you trust the Amptec LA2000: >>> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMPTEC-LA2000-2000W-HF-tube-linear-amplifier/272234339459?_trksid=p2060778.c100276.m3476&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140725133649%26meid%3Da46bc7a1c1274120a571252811a8f6bb%26pid%3D100276%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121996613826 >>> >>> David Ahrendts, KK6DA, Los Angeles >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> David Ahrendtsdavidahrendts at me.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post:mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered tow8dn at roadrunner.com >> > From k9yeq at live.com Fri May 27 20:42:24 2016 From: k9yeq at live.com (Bill) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 19:42:24 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] List participatioin Message-ID: I have missed the list for nearly a year. missed the KX2 stuff, and would have loved to FT as I have done many pieces in the past. But I somehow lost the link to the newsletters. So here I sit broken hearted, came to list but found I had departed. I am back! KX2 in the near future. I have owned all K rigs, except the 500w amp because I already own the THP HL K2.5kfx which is full 1.5KW output. (soon to be up for sale.) Elecraft is the best and you cannot own enough. Our leaders are terrific. I cannot believe I have been on board since late 1998. Where has time gone? 72/73 :) Bill K9yEQ From donwilh at embarqmail.com Fri May 27 20:50:05 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 20:50:05 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] OT Amptec LA2000 Linear Amp In-Reply-To: <59247c00-b78e-0d68-c3ee-93b83aed78dc@roadrunner.com> References: <8a128c7f-3a81-c3e7-3117-190254951a44@roadrunner.com> <59247c00-b78e-0d68-c3ee-93b83aed78dc@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <8115d35f-19f5-ba50-44ab-30e7e7d16911@embarqmail.com> Mike, I suspect you posted with HTML enabled - the reflector strips HTML and results in a blank post. Normal service for the KPA500 requests that you remove the transformer. That not only reduces weight (and shipping cost) but also reduces the probability of damage to the KPA500 enclosure if the shipping package encounters a downward impact which could cause the weight of the transformer to deform the KPA500 bottom panel. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/27/2016 8:41 PM, Mike Rhodes wrote: > ...did I get it yet? > > On 5/27/2016 8:38 PM, Mike Rhodes wrote: >> ...sorry about the resend but hopefully it will arrive with content >> this time. >> >> On 5/27/2016 8:05 PM, Mike Rhodes wrote: >>> ...a trip back for service or updates is going to cost a fortune!! >>> From lew at n6lew.us Fri May 27 20:57:33 2016 From: lew at n6lew.us (Lewis Phelps) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 17:57:33 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] that's really awesome In-Reply-To: <0000490b01e6$32958b44$dcc94012$@comcast.net> References: <0000490b01e6$32958b44$dcc94012$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <38A1F6DC-E5CE-4EF3-895B-2CE0EBD6D615@n6lew.us> Looks like somebody has hacked a member?s email address. Lew N6LEW > On May 27, 2016, at 4:19 PM, Elecraft wrote: > > hi, > I think this story is really awesome, you're gonna love it, please read it here > > Elecraft > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to lew at n6lew.us > Lew Phelps N6LEW Pasadena, CA DM04wd Elecraft K3-10 / KXV144 / XV432 Yaesu FT-7800 Lew at N6LEW.US www.n6lew.us Generalized Law of Entropy: Sooner or later, everything that has been put together will fall apart. From KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com Fri May 27 21:24:39 2016 From: KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 18:24:39 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] that's really awesome In-Reply-To: <38A1F6DC-E5CE-4EF3-895B-2CE0EBD6D615@n6lew.us> References: <0000490b01e6$32958b44$dcc94012$@comcast.net> <38A1F6DC-E5CE-4EF3-895B-2CE0EBD6D615@n6lew.us> Message-ID: <4fbe19ea-a612-3053-707c-82a873f2a87d@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Not hacked, spoofed. Want a message from President at Whitehouse.gov? I can spoof one -- it's easy. This is a great example of a message that screams DO NOT CLICK ON THE LINK. 73 -- Lynn On 5/27/2016 5:57 PM, Lewis Phelps wrote: > Looks like somebody has hacked a member?s email address. > > Lew N6LEW > > >> On May 27, 2016, at 4:19 PM, Elecraft wrote: >> >> hi, >> I think this story is really awesome, you're gonna love it, please read it here >> >> Elecraft >> From ae5x at juno.com Fri May 27 21:29:51 2016 From: ae5x at juno.com (ae5x at juno.com) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 01:29:51 GMT Subject: [Elecraft] [KX2] Amp-hour display Message-ID: <20160527.202951.11313.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> I just received my KX2 today and it i smaller than I thought it would be - love it. One question: the amp-hour display is continuously displaying **.***AH. No numbers at all despite being on an external battery (5000mah LiPo) for about 4 hours now. I did 'Clear' it after about an hour thinking that might initialize it but no change. Still all asterisks. Thanks, John AE5X http://ae5x.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Affordable Wireless Plans Set up is easy. Get online in minutes. Starting at only $9.95 per month! www.netzero.net?refcd=nzmem0216 From nr4c at widomaker.com Fri May 27 21:46:00 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 21:46:00 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX2] Amp-hour display In-Reply-To: <20160527.202951.11313.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> References: <20160527.202951.11313.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <8E2C3B30-4FE5-49B2-8876-3E4CE73DE609@widomaker.com> Isn't it for showing AHrs left in internal battery? Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 27, 2016, at 9:29 PM, "ae5x at juno.com" wrote: > > I just received my KX2 today and it i smaller than I thought it would be - love it. One question: the amp-hour display is continuously displaying **.***AH. No numbers at all despite being on an external battery (5000mah LiPo) for about 4 hours now. I did 'Clear' it after about an hour thinking that might initialize it but no change. Still all asterisks. > > Thanks, > > John AE5X > http://ae5x.blogspot.com/ > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Affordable Wireless Plans > Set up is easy. Get online in minutes. > Starting at only $9.95 per month! > www.netzero.net?refcd=nzmem0216 > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From lladerman at earthlink.net Fri May 27 22:31:35 2016 From: lladerman at earthlink.net (W0FK) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 19:31:35 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] OT Amptec LA2000 Linear Amp In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1464402695397-7618126.post@n2.nabble.com> David Ahrendts wrote > I am 100% totally, absolutely in love with my KPA500 linear amp. It is > incredible. Fail safe. Loyal. Attractive. Beautiful. ?? There are times, > however, that I dream of a little more horse power. Would any of you trust > the Amptec LA2000: To echo the advice of others, unless you're a skilled tech or know someone close by, I wouldn't touch this amp. The "name brand" amps sold in the US through distributors are well engineered and supported by organizations that will honor warranties and deal with problems. The amp you linked doesn't even have a manual in English (instead referring you to "other amps" manuals). If you need service under or post warranty, you may be on your own, or hit with a big shipping bill. The listing also doesn't say it's been registered with the FCC or meets US spectral purity and gain regs. If there's one place in your station to get a solid piece of equipment and not "cheap out", it's the high power amp. High power needs well designed circuits and robust components to function at its highest potential. It also needs well designed and built safety lockouts - with the high voltage involved you can die if you get inside for any reason (not just installing the transformer). If you don't want to pay the price of a new amp, look at the used market. There are lots of well designed and robust tube amps of recent vintage worth looking at that won't break your bank account. There are also a number of techs around that can work on these amps if not under warranty. Solid amps made by Alpha, command, Acom, and QRO come to mind. Some solid state amps might be ok but full legal limit ones are fewer in number and higher in cost. 73, Lou, W0FK ----- St. Louis, MO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/OT-Amptec-LA2000-Linear-Amp-tp7618111p7618126.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ae5x at juno.com Fri May 27 22:36:50 2016 From: ae5x at juno.com (ae5x at juno.com) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 02:36:50 GMT Subject: [Elecraft] [KX2] Amp-hour display Message-ID: <20160527.213650.19444.0@webmail08.vgs.untd.com> Git it sorted out, thanks. John AE5X http://ae5x.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Affordable Wireless Plans Set up is easy. Get online in minutes. Starting at only $9.95 per month! www.netzero.net?refcd=nzmem0216 From va3mw at portcredit.net Fri May 27 22:46:30 2016 From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 22:46:30 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 #79 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I ordered 2 days ago and today that told me it is a week away from shipping. Mike va3mw On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 12:27 PM, John Fritze wrote: > I ordered about 10:45 AM EDT on Wednesday while sitting at the FDIM > seminars at Dayton as soon as I saw the order page go live. KX2 #79 > arrived today in Albany NY. Kewl! Can't wait to fire it up along with my > KX3 to compare over this weekend. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to va3mw at portcredit.net > From ad5a at gvtc.com Fri May 27 23:01:09 2016 From: ad5a at gvtc.com (Mike Crownover) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 23:01:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Elecraft] FPF problem In-Reply-To: <1514053749.151801576.1464404209451.JavaMail.zimbra@gvtc.com> Message-ID: <1329225853.151802850.1464404469465.JavaMail.zimbra@gvtc.com> I have a K3 that has been sitting on shelf for a while. I powered it up today, after it was on for ~5 minuted, I get a ERR FPF. After a little research I learn I need to reload the flash file. I used the utility to update the MCU and then when the FPF tried to load I got this message. Elecraft K3 Utility Revision 1.15.12.7 OS Version 10.0 Build 10586 K3 MCU revision 05.38. RS-232 speed 38400 bit/s. Waiting 4 seconds for flash memory erase Sending firmware file C:\Users\ad5a_000\AppData\Roaming\Elecraft\K3 Firmware\hfpf0125.hex to FPF Error code 0xE2000048: No response to poll while synchronizing to buffer boundary FPF verification failed. Reload FPF. Click "Close" to close this window I have retried numerous times and get the same message. Any ideas. Mike AD5A From ad5a at gvtc.com Fri May 27 23:15:46 2016 From: ad5a at gvtc.com (Mike Crownover) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 23:15:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Elecraft] FPF problem In-Reply-To: <1329225853.151802850.1464404469465.JavaMail.zimbra@gvtc.com> References: <1329225853.151802850.1464404469465.JavaMail.zimbra@gvtc.com> Message-ID: <906857335.151806677.1464405346926.JavaMail.zimbra@gvtc.com> The error was FP3, no FPF.......Mike AD5A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Crownover" To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 9:01:09 PM Subject: [Elecraft] FPF problem I have a K3 that has been sitting on shelf for a while. I powered it up today, after it was on for ~5 minuted, I get a ERR FPF. After a little research I learn I need to reload the flash file. I used the utility to update the MCU and then when the FPF tried to load I got this message. Elecraft K3 Utility Revision 1.15.12.7 OS Version 10.0 Build 10586 K3 MCU revision 05.38. RS-232 speed 38400 bit/s. Waiting 4 seconds for flash memory erase Sending firmware file C:\Users\ad5a_000\AppData\Roaming\Elecraft\K3 Firmware\hfpf0125.hex to FPF Error code 0xE2000048: No response to poll while synchronizing to buffer boundary FPF verification failed. Reload FPF. Click "Close" to close this window I have retried numerous times and get the same message. Any ideas. Mike AD5A ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ad5a at gvtc.com From ron at cobi.biz Fri May 27 23:20:14 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 20:20:14 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] FPF problem In-Reply-To: <1329225853.151802850.1464404469465.JavaMail.zimbra@gvtc.com> References: <1514053749.151801576.1464404209451.JavaMail.zimbra@gvtc.com> <1329225853.151802850.1464404469465.JavaMail.zimbra@gvtc.com> Message-ID: <000201d1b88f$da7fae90$8f7f0bb0$@biz> Hello Mike: Depending upon the environment, some older K3 rigs suffered from oxidation of the contacts on the connectors. In your case I'd suspect the connectors between the front panel and the main RF board. Simply removing/replacing the front panel should take care of it if I'm correct. The simple procedure is described in the K3 kit assembly manual on the Elecraft reflector here: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740259%20K3s%20Assembly%20Manual%20Rev%20B1. pdf See page 41. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Crownover Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 8:01 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] FPF problem I have a K3 that has been sitting on shelf for a while. I powered it up today, after it was on for ~5 minuted, I get a ERR FPF. After a little research I learn I need to reload the flash file. I used the utility to update the MCU and then when the FPF tried to load I got this message. Elecraft K3 Utility Revision 1.15.12.7 OS Version 10.0 Build 10586 K3 MCU revision 05.38. RS-232 speed 38400 bit/s. Waiting 4 seconds for flash memory erase Sending firmware file C:\Users\ad5a_000\AppData\Roaming\Elecraft\K3 Firmware\hfpf0125.hex to FPF Error code 0xE2000048: No response to poll while synchronizing to buffer boundary FPF verification failed. Reload FPF. Click "Close" to close this window I have retried numerous times and get the same message. Any ideas. Mike AD5A ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From ad5a at gvtc.com Sat May 28 00:00:36 2016 From: ad5a at gvtc.com (Mike Crownover) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 00:00:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Elecraft] FPF problem In-Reply-To: <000201d1b88f$da7fae90$8f7f0bb0$@biz> References: <1514053749.151801576.1464404209451.JavaMail.zimbra@gvtc.com> <1329225853.151802850.1464404469465.JavaMail.zimbra@gvtc.com> <000201d1b88f$da7fae90$8f7f0bb0$@biz> Message-ID: <1149053791.151824820.1464408036658.JavaMail.zimbra@gvtc.com> Ron, Thanks for the recommendation. I followed the procedure to remove the front panel, but the result was the same. Thanks again, Mike AD5A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" To: "Mike Crownover" , elecraft at mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 9:20:14 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] FPF problem Hello Mike: Depending upon the environment, some older K3 rigs suffered from oxidation of the contacts on the connectors. In your case I'd suspect the connectors between the front panel and the main RF board. Simply removing/replacing the front panel should take care of it if I'm correct. The simple procedure is described in the K3 kit assembly manual on the Elecraft reflector here: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740259%20K3s%20Assembly%20Manual%20Rev%20B1. pdf See page 41. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Crownover Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 8:01 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] FPF problem I have a K3 that has been sitting on shelf for a while. I powered it up today, after it was on for ~5 minuted, I get a ERR FPF. After a little research I learn I need to reload the flash file. I used the utility to update the MCU and then when the FPF tried to load I got this message. Elecraft K3 Utility Revision 1.15.12.7 OS Version 10.0 Build 10586 K3 MCU revision 05.38. RS-232 speed 38400 bit/s. Waiting 4 seconds for flash memory erase Sending firmware file C:\Users\ad5a_000\AppData\Roaming\Elecraft\K3 Firmware\hfpf0125.hex to FPF Error code 0xE2000048: No response to poll while synchronizing to buffer boundary FPF verification failed. Reload FPF. Click "Close" to close this window I have retried numerous times and get the same message. Any ideas. Mike AD5A ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Sat May 28 02:05:29 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 22:05:29 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3: transverter schematic? Message-ID: <201605280605.u4S65UFo018223@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> the 2m transverter is different than the K3 - yeah, since the K3 does not operate on 2m. I suppose you meant the K144XV transverter installed internal to the K3. Answer is the KX2-2M is very different architecture. It converts 144-148 to 50-54 MHz unlike other Elecraft transverters that convert to 28-30 MHz. I found that I have the KX3 schematic but not the 2M transverter schematic. I have the block diagram somewhere (I think). It was up on the Elecraft website when the transverter was introduced but don't think you will find it now. But really I can't see why one would need to have the schematic as the density of component on the pc board is not reparable by most hams. This is one thing one should just send back to Elecraft. David has his own reasons and I will not ask. I once considered whether an ext. LO synth could be used and found out from Wayne how different the design was. Temp compensation plus heat sink mostly took care of frequency stability issues for HF/6m. I've not tested 2m for drift; running under 3w probably does not produce much heat. 73, Ed - KL7UW Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 13:04:55 -0400 From: Nr4c To: Ken Arck Cc: David Anderson , Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3: transverter schematic? Message-ID: <587521B2-82DE-423E-9E12-5C07F919800E at widomaker.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm betting the 2 m XVRTER for the KX3 is different circuit than the internal one for the K3. It's also a very different form factor. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From frantz at pwpconsult.com Sat May 28 04:07:19 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 01:07:19 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] that's really awesome In-Reply-To: <0000490b01e6$32958b44$dcc94012$@comcast.net> Message-ID: I wonder if the perp for this email has a copy of the list members. I received a similar email with a different come on and URL addressed to: From: Elecraft To: "Barry Simpson" , "Bert Rollen" , "Bill Breeden" , "Bill Frantz" , "Bill OMara" The one to the list was addressed to: From: Elecraft To: "Ed Muns" , "Edward R Cole" , "Elecraft Reflector" , "Elecraft" , "Elecraft_K3" On 5/28/16 at 4:19 PM, n9sc at comcast.net (Elecraft) wrote: >hi, >I think this story is really awesome, you're gonna love it, >please read it here -------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | There are now so many exceptions to the 408-356-8506 | Fourth Amendment that it operates only by www.pwpconsult.com | accident. - William Hugh Murray From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Sat May 28 04:11:05 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 01:11:05 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Operating the Ten Tec 422B Amp QSK with a K3/K3S In-Reply-To: References: <7A981983A4AB4981A220EB6701DADD95@BillPC> <5748B120.2030207@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <57495299.5050302@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Fri,5/27/2016 3:57 PM, Bill Braun wrote: > I will set the 422B to PTT/VOX and run the one cable per your > recommendation. I do suggest that you have a good CW op listen to it and make sure that it's fast enough that it's not shortening dits and dahs at speeds where you like to work. 73, Jim From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Sat May 28 04:12:47 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 01:12:47 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Operating the Ten Tec 422B Amp QSK with a K3/K3S In-Reply-To: References: <7A981983A4AB4981A220EB6701DADD95@BillPC> <5748B120.2030207@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <574952FF.9020809@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Fri,5/27/2016 5:21 PM, w5sum at comcast.net wrote: > any help will be appreciated. I suggest that you ask on the Ten Tec reflector, and also on the Amps reflector. 73, Jim K9YC From joel.b.black at gmail.com Sat May 28 08:45:06 2016 From: joel.b.black at gmail.com (Joel Black) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 07:45:06 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] Using a Sound Card for Mic (Multiple) Input(s) Message-ID: I am not a professional sound engineer by any stretch of the imagination. I am usually more surprised than anyone else when I get something working. I do, however, have my sound card working for AFSK modes with the KX3. At one point, I thought I wanted a mixer and asked such of this group. I may still go that way but in an effort to keep my station as "minimalist" as possible, I was thinking of a sound card with multiple inputs. I currently have a Focusrite 2i2 I bought after my E-MU 0204 stopped working in OS X 10.11. It has two inputs and two outputs. Experimenting the other day, I tried using my MH3 mic on the input to the sound card with the sound card output going to the MIC IN on the KX3. It didn?t work. I then realized that the MH3 is a condenser mic and needs to be powered. The 2i2 has a ?48 V phantom power? switch, but I am a little nervous of turning that on. I don?t want to let all the ?magic smoke? out of my mic. After all of that, I began remembering an issue I had with a Genesis G59 SDR I built several years ago - the delay in the route from audio in to the sound card, the sound card input being processed by the computer, the computer outputting that data to the transmitter. It was quite reminiscent of my days operating the HEO satellites. The delay is unnerving and I have never been able to compensate for it other than turning off MON. I?m supposing I?ll have the same delay if I incorporate a sound card for multiple inputs. Would I be better off just adding a mixer? 73, Joel - W4JBB From ae5x at juno.com Sat May 28 11:32:05 2016 From: ae5x at juno.com (ae5x at juno.com) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 15:32:05 GMT Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 (almost) converts me to a phone op Message-ID: <20160528.103205.7752.0@webmail52.vgs.untd.com> I made my first SSB contact in 6 years this morning thank to my KX2 which arrived amid lightning storms yesterday. Check out the other guy's reaction to learning that I was only using 10 watts: http://ae5x.blogspot.com/2016/05/kx2-arrives-or-cw-op-makes-phone-contact.html When first learning of the KX2 last week, I had preconceived ideas of what I would like it to be in terms of ergonomics, capabilities and size. It has lived up to those expectations and then some. Over the decades, I've bought and sold a variety of rigs and there are very few that I've promised myself never to sell. The KX2 is the latest addition to that short list. John AE5X http://ae5x.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Affordable Wireless Plans Set up is easy. Get online in minutes. Starting at only $9.95 per month! www.netzero.net?refcd=nzmem0216 From tnnyswy at yahoo.com Sat May 28 12:16:32 2016 From: tnnyswy at yahoo.com (tnnyswy at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 16:16:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 (almost) converts me to a phone op In-Reply-To: <20160528.103205.7752.0@webmail52.vgs.untd.com> References: <20160528.103205.7752.0@webmail52.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <2076253340.954245.1464452192472.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> >>> thank to my KX2 which arrived amid lightning storms yesterday.<<< Talk about a "SPECTACULAR" arrival ! With Dazzling announcement, the SKY herald it's ubiety! Congrats John!!!!? on your KX2. ((((73)))) / {72} Milverton / W9MMS. From: "ae5x at juno.com" To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2016 10:32 AM Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 (almost) converts me to a phone op I made my first SSB contact in 6 years this morning thank to my KX2 which arrived amid lightning storms yesterday. Check out the other guy's reaction to learning that I was only using 10 watts: http://ae5x.blogspot.com/2016/05/kx2-arrives-or-cw-op-makes-phone-contact.html When first learning of the KX2 last week, I had preconceived ideas of what I would like it to be in terms of ergonomics, capabilities and size. It has lived up to those expectations and then some. Over the decades, I've bought and sold a variety of rigs and there are very few that I've promised myself never to sell. The KX2 is the latest addition to that short list. John AE5X http://ae5x.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Affordable Wireless Plans Set up is easy. Get online in minutes. Starting at only $9.95 per month! www.netzero.net?refcd=nzmem0216 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tnnyswy at yahoo.com From nskousen at ecsecurityinc.com Sat May 28 12:28:08 2016 From: nskousen at ecsecurityinc.com (Niel Skousen) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 10:28:08 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] FS (Trade - KX2 ? ) Hack-RF with PortaPak H2 Message-ID: Good Morning All, I have an interesting SDR receiver / Spectrum Monitor covering 1M - 6Ghz, with display and case For Sale (or Trade towards a KX2) For Sale : HackRF, with PortaPak H2 and metal case Asking $425 shipped. Pictures available, further into on link below. http://hackerwarehouse.com/product-tag/software-defined-radio-sdr/ Please reply off list Niel WA7SSA From nskousen at ecsecurityinc.com Sat May 28 13:08:43 2016 From: nskousen at ecsecurityinc.com (Niel Skousen) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 11:08:43 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 issues / questions /suggestions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <377EA8D3-602D-45C9-A50E-7866E25DBFF4@ecsecurityinc.com> I was looking at the PX3 this morning, listening on 40m, and you could make a small display change to do #5 (well the second #5). If the moving 'tick' marks at the top of the display went down instead of up, and the top line of the display was 'thickened' representing the full band, then the display window could be shown as a light green section of the band. The same as the rx bandwidth is shown on the center cursor. As you tuned in the band, the green visible bandwidth within the full band would move giving you a sense of where you are within the band. And I'm probably just in experienced with the PX3, but how do others tune to get something seen near the noise ? Often I see something to check out, and once I start tuning for the signal I loose my context and either undershoot or overshoot the faint signal i was looking for. I understand the use of the Markers to so this, but just to do tune / look I us On May 27, 2016, at 3:31 PM, etksubs at gmail.com wrote: > I recently bought a PX3 for my KX3, and I really love it. I had played with panadapter software on my computer, but since I use a Mac the offerings are rather limited and even using Windows in a VM getting it to work the way I wanted was cumbersome to say the least. > > The PX3 is great since it?s basically plug and play, and its size and portability are awesome! > > So after having used it for a couple of weeks I have some comments. I guess most/all are related to waterfall since I find that the most useful aspect of the product. I live in a condo so due to antenna limitations and noise floor the spectrum display alone isn?t very useful. > > 1) The Freeze feature freezes everything. It would be really great if it would just stop the waterfall (maybe the spectrum too), but still allow manipulation of other elements, e.g. markers. I would use it if I were to see something I want to look at but maybe about to go off screen, so I?d like to move a marker over to that in order to switch frequencies, etc. > > 2) Allow the marker line itself to extend into the waterfall, not just for history, to allow aligning with historical data. It would be useful to align with signals that are there but have not scrolled off yet. > > 3) Move the waterfall data on the screen when shifting frequencies in tracking mode. I know you won?t have data for the new parts of the spectrum coming into view, but it?s hard for the user to readjust to shifting data that no longer corresponds to the spectrum above. The same goes for fixed mode if you configure to jump a half span. > > 4) Add something like a 3/4 - 1/4 FixMode option. As I?m scrolling up frequency (or down) I have to wait til I get all the way to the end to see what?s ahead. Of course enhancing tracking mode as above might obviate the need for this. > > 5) Or maybe add a ?shift view? that I can set to a Fn button and rotate the know to move the display left or right. Currently I do this by switching to tracking mode to center the current frequency and then back to fixed. Or maybe have ?Center? in fixed mode center the current frequency? > > 5) Add a full-band view. I know you won?t necessarily have full-width data due to bandwidth limitations but it?s nice to see where you are in the entire band. Just a nice-to-have thing. > > 6) Add visual band end markers. Also just nice-to-have. > > 7) One quirk I see is when switching the tracking mode the Ref level is different. It reports the same value in each, but the base level is obviously different based on the spectrum display behaviour and I have to readjust it every time. > > Thanks for listening! > > > Thanks and 73, > Erik Tkal - W1QED > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nskousen at ecsecurityinc.com From pmeier at me.com Sat May 28 13:17:10 2016 From: pmeier at me.com (Pete Meier) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 11:17:10 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Message-ID: Need to use the OFS button to do the clear! I had same issue. Pete Meier pmeier at me.com Amateur Radio Callsign: WK8S || I never lose. If I don't win, I learn. - unknown author || From rodenkirch_llc at msn.com Sat May 28 13:36:56 2016 From: rodenkirch_llc at msn.com (Jim Rodenkirch) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 10:36:56 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 (almost) converts me to a phone op In-Reply-To: <20160528.103205.7752.0@webmail52.vgs.untd.com> References: <20160528.103205.7752.0@webmail52.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <1464457016739-7618144.post@n2.nabble.com> I am glad to hear the transmitted audio sounds so well...I kinda think/expect the 2 element yagi had SOMETHING to do with the "awsum" radio ----- Just wonderin' if, or guessing that, one could expect that my KX3 or my earlier Ten Tec Argo VI, if hooked up to the same antenna around that same time period, with the same output power, would elicit the same "ooooh factor"??? 71.5/72 de Jim R. K9JWV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX2-almost-converts-me-to-a-phone-op-tp7618139p7618144.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From n6kr at elecraft.com Sat May 28 13:44:05 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 10:44:05 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX2] Amp-hour display In-Reply-To: <20160527.202951.11313.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> References: <20160527.202951.11313.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <58C34164-0074-4456-A45C-F54F0CFB856E@elecraft.com> Go into the MENU, find AMP HRS, then do CLR. When you do CLR outside the menu, it's just a clear of the RIT/XIT offset. 73, Wayne N6KR On May 27, 2016, at 6:29 PM, ae5x at juno.com wrote: > I just received my KX2 today and it i smaller than I thought it would be - love it. One question: the amp-hour display is continuously displaying **.***AH. No numbers at all despite being on an external battery (5000mah LiPo) for about 4 hours now. I did 'Clear' it after about an hour thinking that might initialize it but no change. Still all asterisks. > > Thanks, > > John AE5X > http://ae5x.blogspot.com/ > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Affordable Wireless Plans > Set up is easy. Get online in minutes. > Starting at only $9.95 per month! > www.netzero.net?refcd=nzmem0216 > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From pubx1 at af2z.net Sat May 28 14:00:12 2016 From: pubx1 at af2z.net (Drew AF2Z) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 14:00:12 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 macro command for QRPp power levels Message-ID: <5749DCAC.1030102@af2z.net> Is there a macro command format for setting the power level to less than 1 watt? I can't find it anywhere. I have a K3/100 and have tried PC0001 (for 100 mW) but it just goes to zero. The lowest command setting seems to be PC001 for 1 watt... 73, Drew AF2Z From ae5x at juno.com Sat May 28 14:00:42 2016 From: ae5x at juno.com (ae5x at juno.com) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 18:00:42 GMT Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 (almost) converts me to a phone op Message-ID: <20160528.130042.5014.1@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Thanks Milverton. If I can pull myself away from this rig - a big if - I may just have to spend some quality time in Photoshop and design a movie-type poster to illustrate the lightning-based karma being driven into my KX2. Hmmmm - sounds like a project..... 73, John AE5X http://ae5x.blogspot.com/ _____________________________________ >>> thank to my KX2 which arrived amid lightning storms yesterday.<<< Talk about a "SPECTACULAR" arrival ! With Dazzling announcement, the SKY herald it's ubiety! Congrats John!!!! on your KX2. ((((73)))) / {72} Milverton / W9MMS. ____________________________________________________________ Affordable Wireless Plans Set up is easy. Get online in minutes. Starting at only $9.95 per month! www.netzero.net?refcd=nzmem0216 From rheming1 at sbcglobal.net Sat May 28 15:22:52 2016 From: rheming1 at sbcglobal.net (Richard W Hemingway) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 19:22:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] About to give up References: <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I am about to give up on my K3S and PSK with my Fldigi on my Mac computer. ?I am unable to connect either with the SignaLink or with a straight USK connection. ?Neither will cause the TX light to come on or TX! ?I have never ?had t his problem before on any of my Rigs, or before when I owned ?a K3. ?Joe tried your hamlib as well as the Rig Cat settings sent to me from Elecraft. ?No go.??? If anyone has any bright ?ideas please let me know. ?This should be keying the K3S but it is not. ?Have I sset something ?that would block t his? All have a great Memorial weekend, remembering our fallen.. Take care, Dick. N5XRD? From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sat May 28 15:59:52 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 15:59:52 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] About to give up In-Reply-To: <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46e6320c-52b8-141b-7192-82102a4a4928@embarqmail.com> Dick, Do you have sound coming out of the SignaLink? Connect it to an audio amplifier and listen - if you hear tones, things should work. If the SignaLink produces tones, does it activate the PTT output - test with your ohmmeter, it should measure a very high resistance (even infinity) with no tones produced and near zero ohms when tones are present. Yes, I am thinking you may have a bad SignaLink, so test it to be sure it is doing its job. I assume you are plugging the SignaLink into the line-in jack on the K3S. Have you set the data mode MIC SEL menu to LINE IN? If the SignaLink makes tones, try using VOX in the K3S - it should go into transmit when tones are received. If the SignaLink does not produce tones, try the output of another soundcard. Why are you using the SignaLink instead of the built-in USB CODEC in the K3S? The SignaLink only further complicates things. If you do use the USB CODEC, make certain nothing is plugged into the K3S LINE IN jack. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/28/2016 3:22 PM, Richard W Hemingway wrote: > Hi, > I am about to give up on my K3S and PSK with my Fldigi on my Mac computer. I am unable to connect either with the SignaLink or with a straight USK connection. Neither will cause the TX light to come on or TX! I have never had t his problem before on any of my Rigs, or before when I owned a K3. Joe tried your hamlib as well as the Rig Cat settings sent to me from Elecraft. No go.??? > If anyone has any bright ideas please let me know. This should be keying the K3S but it is not. Have I sset something that would block t his? > All have a great Memorial weekend, remembering our fallen.. > From dick at elecraft.com Sat May 28 16:32:28 2016 From: dick at elecraft.com (Dick Dievendorff) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 13:32:28 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 macro command for QRPp power levels In-Reply-To: <5749DCAC.1030102@af2z.net> References: <5749DCAC.1030102@af2z.net> Message-ID: <031e01d1b920$0d8c8520$28a58f60$@elecraft.com> PC has different formats, depending on the K2 setting (K22 mode). If you want fewer than 10 watts, the x final digit (PCnnnx;) should be 0. This disables the KPA3, and nnn is interpreted as 0.1 watt units, up to 12.0 watts. PC0500; should result in 050 x 0.1 or 5 watts. If the final digit (the X) is 1, then nnn is watts, up to 110 watts, and the KPA3 is enabled. K22; PC0500; should result in 5 watts. (KPA3 disabled) PC0501; should result in 50 watts. (KPA3 enabled) One way to test this is to adjust the K3 front panel power control to where you want it, and then use the K3 Utility command tester and enter: K22; PC; and it should show the PC setter you need for that power level. 73 de Dick, K6KR -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Drew AF2Z Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2016 11:00 To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 macro command for QRPp power levels Is there a macro command format for setting the power level to less than 1 watt? I can't find it anywhere. I have a K3/100 and have tried PC0001 (for 100 mW) but it just goes to zero. The lowest command setting seems to be PC001 for 1 watt... 73, Drew AF2Z ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to dick at elecraft.com From k8tb at bosscher.org Sat May 28 16:38:07 2016 From: k8tb at bosscher.org (Tom) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 16:38:07 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/Mini In-Reply-To: <031e01d1b920$0d8c8520$28a58f60$@elecraft.com> References: <5749DCAC.1030102@af2z.net> <031e01d1b920$0d8c8520$28a58f60$@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <4e30b0b3-2f98-fa2b-8d2b-64d9fc6ad905@bosscher.org> I just bought a used K3/mini to use with my remote base K3. I've been using my home K3 to control the remote base. I needed the separate control, as K8AJ, who I share the hack with, would like to have her "own" rig. Anyway, for anyone who has a K3/mini, when you power it up, and it is not plugged into anything, does it act like it is looped, and all the knobs seem to work, and the VFO's etc move? Or does it act like a K3 in the remote mode, but with out a RS-232 connection, and just sit there? Thank you Tom K8TB From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sat May 28 16:52:42 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 16:52:42 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] Using a Sound Card for Mic (Multiple) Input(s) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Joel, Ham and consumer "condenser" microphones should not be subjected to 48 volt phantom power. That is for professional microphones which need that power. The ham and consumer "condenser" microphones are normally referred to as "electret" microphones rather than as condenser microphones. Those need a 5 to 8 volt source applied to the AF lead through a resistor (usually 5K to 10k). I would recommend using a switch rather than a mixer. You do not want an open mic when operating digital modes, nor do you usually want the soundcard connected when using voice signals. With a hard-wired switch, you can turn the bias on in the MIC SEL menu when operating voice. If you want to leave bias turned on even though you are working digital modes, add a series capacitor in the AF line to the soundcard output. If you want to use the mixer, I would suggest an audio pro microphone. If that mic needs phantom power, then turn it on. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/28/2016 8:45 AM, Joel Black wrote: > I am not a professional sound engineer by any stretch of the imagination. I am usually more surprised than anyone else when I get something working. I do, however, have my sound card working for AFSK modes with the KX3. At one point, I thought I wanted a mixer and asked such of this group. I may still go that way but in an effort to keep my station as "minimalist" as possible, I was thinking of a sound card with multiple inputs. > > I currently have a Focusrite 2i2 I bought after my E-MU 0204 stopped working in OS X 10.11. It has two inputs and two outputs. Experimenting the other day, I tried using my MH3 mic on the input to the sound card with the sound card output going to the MIC IN on the KX3. It didn?t work. I then realized that the MH3 is a condenser mic and needs to be powered. The 2i2 has a ?48 V phantom power? switch, but I am a little nervous of turning that on. I don?t want to let all the ?magic smoke? out of my mic. > > After all of that, I began remembering an issue I had with a Genesis G59 SDR I built several years ago - the delay in the route from audio in to the sound card, the sound card input being processed by the computer, the computer outputting that data to the transmitter. It was quite reminiscent of my days operating the HEO satellites. The delay is unnerving and I have never been able to compensate for it other than turning off MON. I?m supposing I?ll have the same delay if I incorporate a sound card for multiple inputs. > > Would I be better off just adding a mixer? > > 73, > Joel - W4JBB > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com From n6kr at elecraft.com Sat May 28 17:01:55 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 14:01:55 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Bands are open -- CW WPX is a great time to test-drive a new KX2 Message-ID: Things are jumping, even on the high bands. Lots of DX on 15 and 20 m, and I just worked Uruguay on 10 m (10 watts, internal battery, dipole :) Get thee to a shack nearby and Operate :) 73, Wayne N6KR From Rodenkirch_LLC at msn.com Sat May 28 17:19:00 2016 From: Rodenkirch_LLC at msn.com (James Rodenkirch) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 21:19:00 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] Bands are open -- CW WPX is a great time to test-drive a new KX2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Operating as a 160 single band QRP entry this time around...160, early this morning (0600Z) in s/w Utah, was in great shape, S3 noise level, solid copy on signals....yes, the rapid QSB is there but, just don't send cut numbers for crying out loud, HK1R was solid 579 in to s/w UT, worked Eric, NO3M, effortlessly). BUT, as usual, few ops.....guess people believe the low bands - 160 and 80 - aren't worth the time to even bother?!?! Around 1200Z 80 meters was in GREAT shape ---- S1 noise level, KH6LC booming in here (worked him with 1 watt) and heard several JAs.....sheesh, not as "populated," perhaps as during the fall/winter season but....gosh...still a treat to hear good sigs from far away with about zero QRN). Hope to hear and work y'all on top band early tomorrow and at sunrise.....71.5/72 de Jim R. K9JWV ________________________________ From: KX3 at yahoogroups.com on behalf of Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com [KX3] Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2016 3:01 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Cc: KX3 at yahoogroups.com Subject: [KX3] Bands are open -- CW WPX is a great time to test-drive a new KX2 Things are jumping, even on the high bands. Lots of DX on 15 and 20 m, and I just worked Uruguay on 10 m (10 watts, internal battery, dipole :) Get thee to a shack nearby and Operate :) 73, Wayne N6KR __._,_.___ ________________________________ Posted by: Wayne Burdick ________________________________ Reply via web post * Reply to sender * Reply to group * Start a New Topic * Messages in this topic (1) ________________________________ [https://s.yimg.com/ru/static/images/yg/img/megaphone/1464031581_phpFA8bON] Have you tried the highest rated email app? With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. ________________________________ Visit Your Group * New Members 101 * New Photos 1 [Yahoo! Groups] * Privacy * Unsubscribe * Terms of Use . __,_._,___ From marrotte at verizon.net Sat May 28 17:21:08 2016 From: marrotte at verizon.net (Roger Marrotte) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 17:21:08 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Bands are open -- CW WPX is a great time to test-drive a new KX2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000e01d1b926$da665390$8f32fab0$@verizon.net> I've been doing just that. Working Europe on 5 watts and a dipole. Of course I'm in New England. We're a little closed to Europe than you west coast guys. Works great. Just like a mini K3! Roger, W1EM -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2016 5:02 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Cc: KX3 at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Elecraft] Bands are open -- CW WPX is a great time to test-drive a new KX2 Things are jumping, even on the high bands. Lots of DX on 15 and 20 m, and I just worked Uruguay on 10 m (10 watts, internal battery, dipole :) Get thee to a shack nearby and Operate :) 73, Wayne N6KR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to marrotte at verizon.net From ae5x at juno.com Sat May 28 17:46:51 2016 From: ae5x at juno.com (ae5x at juno.com) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 21:46:51 GMT Subject: [Elecraft] Bands are open -- CW WPX is a great time to test-drive a new KX2 Message-ID: <20160528.164651.23910.0@webmail13.vgs.untd.com> Worked ZL, EA, FW5, EA8 in that order - all in a 10-minute period on 15m, with the KX2. The band is open to EU and Oceania simultaneously. John AE5X http://ae5x.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Affordable Wireless Plans Set up is easy. Get online in minutes. Starting at only $9.95 per month! www.netzero.net?refcd=nzmem0216 From joel.b.black at gmail.com Sat May 28 18:38:12 2016 From: joel.b.black at gmail.com (Joel Black) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 17:38:12 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] Using a Sound Card for Mic (Multiple) Input(s) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29D01D51-F436-41DF-B0A6-B309BA15D9D8@gmail.com> Thanks, Don. That?s what I needed to hear. 73, Joel - W4JBB > On May 28, 2016, at 15:52, Don Wilhelm wrote: > > Joel, > > Ham and consumer "condenser" microphones should not be subjected to 48 volt phantom power. That is for professional microphones which need that power. > The ham and consumer "condenser" microphones are normally referred to as "electret" microphones rather than as condenser microphones. Those need a 5 to 8 volt source applied to the AF lead through a resistor (usually 5K to 10k). > > I would recommend using a switch rather than a mixer. You do not want an open mic when operating digital modes, nor do you usually want the soundcard connected when using voice signals. > With a hard-wired switch, you can turn the bias on in the MIC SEL menu when operating voice. If you want to leave bias turned on even though you are working digital modes, add a series capacitor in the AF line to the soundcard output. > > If you want to use the mixer, I would suggest an audio pro microphone. If that mic needs phantom power, then turn it on. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 5/28/2016 8:45 AM, Joel Black wrote: >> I am not a professional sound engineer by any stretch of the imagination. I am usually more surprised than anyone else when I get something working. I do, however, have my sound card working for AFSK modes with the KX3. At one point, I thought I wanted a mixer and asked such of this group. I may still go that way but in an effort to keep my station as "minimalist" as possible, I was thinking of a sound card with multiple inputs. >> >> I currently have a Focusrite 2i2 I bought after my E-MU 0204 stopped working in OS X 10.11. It has two inputs and two outputs. Experimenting the other day, I tried using my MH3 mic on the input to the sound card with the sound card output going to the MIC IN on the KX3. It didn?t work. I then realized that the MH3 is a condenser mic and needs to be powered. The 2i2 has a ?48 V phantom power? switch, but I am a little nervous of turning that on. I don?t want to let all the ?magic smoke? out of my mic. >> >> After all of that, I began remembering an issue I had with a Genesis G59 SDR I built several years ago - the delay in the route from audio in to the sound card, the sound card input being processed by the computer, the computer outputting that data to the transmitter. It was quite reminiscent of my days operating the HEO satellites. The delay is unnerving and I have never been able to compensate for it other than turning off MON. I?m supposing I?ll have the same delay if I incorporate a sound card for multiple inputs. >> >> Would I be better off just adding a mixer? >> >> 73, >> Joel - W4JBB >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com > From rodenkirch_llc at msn.com Sat May 28 19:09:58 2016 From: rodenkirch_llc at msn.com (Jim Rodenkirch) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 16:09:58 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Bands are open -- CW WPX is a great time to test-drive a new KX2 In-Reply-To: <20160528.164651.23910.0@webmail13.vgs.untd.com> References: <20160528.164651.23910.0@webmail13.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <1464476998329-7618158.post@n2.nabble.com> How about "with your KX2 and a beam"?!?! It isn't THE radio these days.....it IS the antenna.....just sayin' -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Bands-are-open-CW-WPX-is-a-great-time-to-test-drive-a-new-KX2-tp7618156p7618158.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From rodenkirch_llc at msn.com Sat May 28 19:21:50 2016 From: rodenkirch_llc at msn.com (Jim Rodenkirch) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 16:21:50 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] About to give up In-Reply-To: <46e6320c-52b8-141b-7192-82102a4a4928@embarqmail.com> References: <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <46e6320c-52b8-141b-7192-82102a4a4928@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <1464477710613-7618159.post@n2.nabble.com> Isn't it "fun"????????????? You purchase a new, highly touted rig that will do it all (I'm NOT sayin' Elecraft touts that...well, maybe they do that a little) and then you find lots of problems interfacing it with other ancillary equipment (ASSUMING it even NEEDS to interface with some external piece of gear). An old Systems Engineering axiom/mantra -------- the biggest problems are always at the external interfaces......assuming you even NEED an external interface!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/About-to-give-up-tp7618148p7618159.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From matt at nq6n.com Sat May 28 19:22:15 2016 From: matt at nq6n.com (Matt Murphy) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 18:22:15 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Bands are open -- CW WPX is a great time to test-drive a new KX2 In-Reply-To: <000e01d1b926$da665390$8f32fab0$@verizon.net> References: <000e01d1b926$da665390$8f32fab0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: I had some fun in WPX last night on 40M with my KX3 portable (on a screened-in porch) in Michigan. Used an ez-hang to install a 120' longwire in a 90' tree (I landed a perfect first shot between two high limbs). Felt like I was running 100W and the RX audio was a joy to listen to. I didn't win all jump balls but easily worked a fair bit of DX. The higher bands weren't as favorable for me this morning but looking forward to tonight. 73, Matt NQ6N On Saturday, May 28, 2016, Roger Marrotte wrote: > I've been doing just that. Working Europe on 5 watts and a dipole. Of > course I'm in New England. We're a little closed to Europe than you west > coast guys. Works great. Just like a mini K3! > > Roger, W1EM > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net ] > On Behalf Of Wayne > Burdick > Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2016 5:02 PM > To: Elecraft Reflector > > Cc: KX3 at yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Elecraft] Bands are open -- CW WPX is a great time to test-drive > a > new KX2 > > Things are jumping, even on the high bands. Lots of DX on 15 and 20 m, and > I > just worked Uruguay on 10 m (10 watts, internal battery, dipole :) > > Get thee to a shack nearby and Operate :) > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message > delivered to marrotte at verizon.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to matt at nq6n.com > From wa6nhc at gmail.com Sat May 28 19:52:12 2016 From: wa6nhc at gmail.com (Rick WA6NHC) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 16:52:12 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] About to give up In-Reply-To: <46e6320c-52b8-141b-7192-82102a4a4928@embarqmail.com> References: <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <46e6320c-52b8-141b-7192-82102a4a4928@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: I STRONGLY suggest that you do NOT rely on the PTT from the SignaLink at all, ever, no way, uh uh, fuggedaboudit, nyet. You have to use the full audio drive of the SLUSB to trip it's VOX, which is still not reliable. If you cannot use a CAT (computer) for PTT, then the rig VOX is your only answer. Computer driver (Codec 'speaker') set to MAX, SLUSB set to painted lines on top (DLY set full counter-clockwise), then: Set the rig audio (Lin In) to the correct level (data A mode, 4 bars lit, 5th 'tickled') then adjust the rig VOX to be reliable with that. You should be golden at that point. 73, Rick nhc On 5/28/2016 12:59 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Dick, > > Do you have sound coming out of the SignaLink? Connect it to an audio > amplifier and listen - if you hear tones, things should work. > If the SignaLink produces tones, does it activate the PTT output - > test with your ohmmeter, it should measure a very high resistance > (even infinity) with no tones produced and near zero ohms when tones > are present. > Yes, I am thinking you may have a bad SignaLink, so test it to be sure > it is doing its job. > > I assume you are plugging the SignaLink into the line-in jack on the > K3S. Have you set the data mode MIC SEL menu to LINE IN? > > If the SignaLink makes tones, try using VOX in the K3S - it should go > into transmit when tones are received. > If the SignaLink does not produce tones, try the output of another > soundcard. > > Why are you using the SignaLink instead of the built-in USB CODEC in > the K3S? The SignaLink only further complicates things. If you do > use the USB CODEC, make certain nothing is plugged into the K3S LINE > IN jack. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 5/28/2016 3:22 PM, Richard W Hemingway wrote: >> Hi, >> I am about to give up on my K3S and PSK with my Fldigi on my Mac >> computer. I am unable to connect either with the SignaLink or with a >> straight USK connection. Neither will cause the TX light to come on >> or TX! I have never had t his problem before on any of my Rigs, or >> before when I owned a K3. Joe tried your hamlib as well as the Rig >> Cat settings sent to me from Elecraft. No go.??? >> If anyone has any bright ideas please let me know. This should be >> keying the K3S but it is not. Have I sset something that would >> block t his? >> All have a great Memorial weekend, remembering our fallen.. >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wa6nhc at gmail.com From k6dgw at foothill.net Sat May 28 19:58:42 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 16:58:42 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - RemoteRig and macros Message-ID: <60e206c9-a1cb-195f-72a5-57797089b249@foothill.net> We have a remote station using RemoteRig with multiple users. Some use mainly CW at 500W, some use SSB, one uses JT65 at about 200W. Would like to have PF1 or 2 contain a macro that puts the station into a "Normal" configuration. Does the macro go in each of the control K3's or once in the remote K3, or is this a problem that has no solution? I know, dumb question, but remote ops are stressing my ham knowledge. While we're at it, can the macro be programmed from a control K3, or does it have to be done hands-on at the remote station? 73, Fred K6DGW Sparks NV Washoe County DM09dn From eric at elecraft.com Sat May 28 20:13:34 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 17:13:34 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2 Video Message-ID: <1994d114-8fc2-fa52-5955-9966b91d9532@elecraft.com> Here is a new KX2 video of SOTA operation from K0JQZ. It also includes a short unboxing at the beginning. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc79PMWJ6_o&feature=youtu.be Great shots of him and WG0AT! 73, Eric /elecraft.com/ From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Sat May 28 20:38:16 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 17:38:16 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2 Video In-Reply-To: <1994d114-8fc2-fa52-5955-9966b91d9532@elecraft.com> References: <1994d114-8fc2-fa52-5955-9966b91d9532@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <8b69e4e7-2e2d-e6cf-a9d8-d2c19b28d149@triconet.org> Wow. W7CNL, N8BB, W9RH and NE4TN answer his CQ and he calls QRZ? On 5/28/2016 5:13 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: > Here is a new KX2 video of SOTA operation from K0JQZ. It also includes a short > unboxing at the beginning. See: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc79PMWJ6_o&feature=youtu.be > > Great shots of him and WG0AT! > > 73, > > Eric > /elecraft.com/ From eric at elecraft.com Sat May 28 20:55:49 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 17:55:49 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2 Video In-Reply-To: <8b69e4e7-2e2d-e6cf-a9d8-d2c19b28d149@triconet.org> References: <1994d114-8fc2-fa52-5955-9966b91d9532@elecraft.com> <8b69e4e7-2e2d-e6cf-a9d8-d2c19b28d149@triconet.org> Message-ID: <7181aa73-6b3c-3f9e-0cbd-88a73c685a94@elecraft.com> Its edited to show each person who called him for a QSO, with the rest in between chopped out. He worked each of those stations. Eric /elecraft.com/ On 5/28/2016 5:38 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: > Wow. W7CNL, N8BB, W9RH and NE4TN answer his CQ and he calls QRZ? > > > > On 5/28/2016 5:13 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: >> Here is a new KX2 video of SOTA operation from K0JQZ. It also includes a >> short unboxing at the beginning. See: >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc79PMWJ6_o&feature=youtu.be >> >> Great shots of him and WG0AT! >> >> 73, >> >> Eric >> /elecraft.com/ > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com > From ken at arcomcontrollers.com Sat May 28 20:58:41 2016 From: ken at arcomcontrollers.com (Ken Arck) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 17:58:41 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] About to give up In-Reply-To: References: <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <46e6320c-52b8-141b-7192-82102a4a4928@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: I can't speak to the Mac part but it was a bit of a learning curve (and I VERY computer literate - heck I code!) to get my K3S working smoothly with several different software applications but now everything - audio in/out, PTT and CAT commands are all handled through one USB cable. It's magic! Ken At 04:52 PM 5/28/2016, Rick WA6NHC wrote: >I STRONGLY suggest that you do NOT rely on the PTT from the >SignaLink at all, ever, no way, uh uh, fuggedaboudit, nyet. You >have to use the full audio drive of the SLUSB to trip it's VOX, >which is still not reliable. > >If you cannot use a CAT (computer) for PTT, then the rig VOX is your >only answer. > >Computer driver (Codec 'speaker') set to MAX, SLUSB set to painted >lines on top (DLY set full counter-clockwise), then: > >Set the rig audio (Lin In) to the correct level (data A mode, 4 bars >lit, 5th 'tickled') then adjust the rig VOX to be reliable with that. > >You should be golden at that point. > >73, >Rick nhc > > >On 5/28/2016 12:59 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >>Dick, >> >>Do you have sound coming out of the SignaLink? Connect it to an >>audio amplifier and listen - if you hear tones, things should work. >>If the SignaLink produces tones, does it activate the PTT output - >>test with your ohmmeter, it should measure a very high resistance >>(even infinity) with no tones produced and near zero ohms when >>tones are present. >>Yes, I am thinking you may have a bad SignaLink, so test it to be >>sure it is doing its job. >> >>I assume you are plugging the SignaLink into the line-in jack on >>the K3S. Have you set the data mode MIC SEL menu to LINE IN? >> >>If the SignaLink makes tones, try using VOX in the K3S - it should >>go into transmit when tones are received. >>If the SignaLink does not produce tones, try the output of another soundcard. >> >>Why are you using the SignaLink instead of the built-in USB CODEC >>in the K3S? The SignaLink only further complicates things. If you >>do use the USB CODEC, make certain nothing is plugged into the K3S >>LINE IN jack. >> >>73, >>Don W3FPR >> >>On 5/28/2016 3:22 PM, Richard W Hemingway wrote: >>>Hi, >>>I am about to give up on my K3S and PSK with my Fldigi on my Mac >>>computer. I am unable to connect either with the SignaLink or >>>with a straight USK connection. Neither will cause the TX light >>>to come on or TX! I have never had t his problem before on any >>>of my Rigs, or before when I owned a K3. Joe tried your hamlib >>>as well as the Rig Cat settings sent to me from Elecraft. No go.??? >>>If anyone has any bright ideas please let me know. This should >>>be keying the K3S but it is not. Have I sset something that >>>would block t his? >>>All have a great Memorial weekend, remembering our fallen.. >> >>______________________________________________________________ >>Elecraft mailing list >>Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >>This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>Message delivered to wa6nhc at gmail.com > >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to ken at arcomcontrollers.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" From herr42 at comcast.net Sat May 28 22:22:55 2016 From: herr42 at comcast.net (Jeff Herr) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 19:22:55 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Beep In-Reply-To: <20160529010000.114632AB4C2E@mailman.qth.net> References: <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <46e6320c-52b8-141b-7192-82102a4a4928@embarqmail.com> <20160529010000.114632AB4C2E@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: <000001d1b951$02e0ee00$08a2ca00$@net> In regard to the Elecraft Frequency Memory Editor: When using the QSY capability the KX3 does a beep. When I am up late at night this is problematic. Is there a way to turn off the "beep" From w6jhb at me.com Sat May 28 22:49:19 2016 From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 19:49:19 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] About to give up In-Reply-To: <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3D8C61CB-9F9A-43E4-97FE-0760A2B9E715@me.com> Dick, By any chance have you in the past few weeks upgraded your mac to El Capitan? I had a working system (K3, FLDIGI, WSJT-X) and silly me, upgraded to El Capitan and a subsequent follow-on update. It has completely broken my digital mode operating. The audio is now routed to the internal iMac speakers - no matter what I?ve put in the settings of either piece of software. Needless to say, with the audio going to the speakers instead of to the K3, it never goes into transmit. Apple has really screwed up things this time. I?ve since moved my digital operation off of the iMac and over to a Raspberry Pi 3 where WSJT-X is working just fine. Havent? had time to mess with FLDIGI over there yet, but maybe next week. Just a thought??. Jim, W6JHB > On Saturday, May 28, 2016, at Saturday, 12:22 PM, Richard W Hemingway wrote: > > Hi, > I am about to give up on my K3S and PSK with my Fldigi on my Mac computer. I am unable to connect either with the SignaLink or with a straight USK connection. Neither will cause the TX light to come on or TX! I have never had t his problem before on any of my Rigs, or before when I owned a K3. Joe tried your hamlib as well as the Rig Cat settings sent to me from Elecraft. No go.??? > If anyone has any bright ideas please let me know. This should be keying the K3S but it is not. Have I sset something that would block t his? > All have a great Memorial weekend, remembering our fallen.. > Take care, > Dick. N5XRD > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w6jhb at me.com From edouard at lafargue.name Sat May 28 23:17:49 2016 From: edouard at lafargue.name (Edouard Lafargue) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 20:17:49 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Strong Rd feedback in mh3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I was operating portable today, with a long wire in a tree and counterpoise on the ground, and no matter what I did, every time I pushed the mic button, I got super strong RF feedback in audio monitoring, apparently picked up by the MH3 cable - things got slightly better if I tried to bunch/coil the MH3 cable. Is this common? I only managed to work one station in Indiana in the time I tried, most of the time what I heard in my headphones while transmitting was unintelligible garble, so it is no surprise others didn't hear me, I guess... My KX3 has got an internal ATU and it managed to match the long wire perfectly at each frequency I tried to operate... Any advice? Ed W6ELA (phone) From w7ox at socal.rr.com Sat May 28 23:18:04 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 20:18:04 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] About to give up In-Reply-To: <3D8C61CB-9F9A-43E4-97FE-0760A2B9E715@me.com> References: <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <3D8C61CB-9F9A-43E4-97FE-0760A2B9E715@me.com> Message-ID: <203f6fd1-3a1a-255b-82b5-b78e490ffbae@socal.rr.com> Jim (and perhaps Dick), Then go to System Preferences > Sound > Output and select the external USB device you want the as the destination for your audio output. You have to do this in OS X, not in the application software. 73, Phil W7OX On 5/28/16 7:49 PM, James Bennett wrote: > Dick, > > By any chance have you in the past few weeks upgraded your mac to El Capitan? I had a working system (K3, FLDIGI, WSJT-X) and silly me, upgraded to El Capitan and a subsequent follow-on update. It has completely broken my digital mode operating. The audio is now routed to the internal iMac speakers - no matter what I?ve put in the settings of either piece of software. Needless to say, with the audio going to the speakers instead of to the K3, it never goes into transmit. Apple has really screwed up things this time. I?ve since moved my digital operation off of the iMac and over to a Raspberry Pi 3 where WSJT-X is working just fine. Havent? had time to mess with FLDIGI over there yet, but maybe next week. > > Just a thought??. > > Jim, W6JHB > > >> On Saturday, May 28, 2016, at Saturday, 12:22 PM, Richard W Hemingway wrote: >> >> Hi, >> I am about to give up on my K3S and PSK with my Fldigi on my Mac computer. I am unable to connect either with the SignaLink or with a straight USK connection. Neither will cause the TX light to come on or TX! I have never had t his problem before on any of my Rigs, or before when I owned a K3. Joe tried your hamlib as well as the Rig Cat settings sent to me from Elecraft. No go.??? >> If anyone has any bright ideas please let me know. This should be keying the K3S but it is not. Have I sset something that would block t his? >> All have a great Memorial weekend, remembering our fallen.. >> Take care, >> Dick. N5XRD From w7ox at socal.rr.com Sat May 28 23:31:55 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 20:31:55 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] About to give up In-Reply-To: <203f6fd1-3a1a-255b-82b5-b78e490ffbae@socal.rr.com> References: <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <3D8C61CB-9F9A-43E4-97FE-0760A2B9E715@me.com> <203f6fd1-3a1a-255b-82b5-b78e490ffbae@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <12cdbc73-ae59-1d3d-df26-a3a3460fce35@socal.rr.com> Adding to what I said below: You do System Preferences > Sound > Input if you want your audio input to come from an external USB device (Griffin iMic, SignalinkUSB, K3s, etc.). I am running OS X 10.11.5 and just tested this with an iMic I happened to have with me. 73, Phil W7OX On 5/28/16 8:18 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > Jim (and perhaps Dick), > > Then go to System Preferences > Sound > Output > and select the external USB device you want the > as the destination for your audio output. You > have to do this in OS X, not in the application > software. > > 73, Phil W7OX > > > > On 5/28/16 7:49 PM, James Bennett wrote: >> Dick, >> >> By any chance have you in the past few weeks >> upgraded your mac to El Capitan? I had a >> working system (K3, FLDIGI, WSJT-X) and silly >> me, upgraded to El Capitan and a subsequent >> follow-on update. It has completely broken my >> digital mode operating. The audio is now routed >> to the internal iMac speakers - no matter what >> I?ve put in the settings of either piece of >> software. Needless to say, with the audio going >> to the speakers instead of to the K3, it never >> goes into transmit. Apple has really screwed up >> things this time. I?ve since moved my digital >> operation off of the iMac and over to a >> Raspberry Pi 3 where WSJT-X is working just >> fine. Havent? had time to mess with FLDIGI over >> there yet, but maybe next week. >> >> Just a thought??. >> >> Jim, W6JHB >> >> >>> On Saturday, May 28, 2016, at Saturday, >>> 12:22 PM, Richard W Hemingway >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> I am about to give up on my K3S and PSK with >>> my Fldigi on my Mac computer. I am unable to >>> connect either with the SignaLink or with a >>> straight USK connection. Neither will cause >>> the TX light to come on or TX! I have never >>> had t his problem before on any of my Rigs, or >>> before when I owned a K3. Joe tried your >>> hamlib as well as the Rig Cat settings sent to >>> me from Elecraft. No go.??? >>> If anyone has any bright ideas please let me >>> know. This should be keying the K3S but it is >>> not. Have I sset something that would block >>> t his? >>> All have a great Memorial weekend, remembering >>> our fallen.. >>> Take care, >>> Dick. N5XRD From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sat May 28 23:43:10 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 23:43:10 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Strong Rd feedback in mh3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9df8be8c-3332-7cbf-a821-491850ca6fb5@embarqmail.com> Ed, Yes, that can be common with long wire antennas - that can happen with any transceiver, it is not unique to the K3 or KX3. Change the length of your long wire by 1/8 wavelength at the frequency you are having trouble with. The situation is that you have a high RF voltage on that antenna near the shack end. Even though the tuner can match it, it can produce a strong RF Field in the shack. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/28/2016 11:17 PM, Edouard Lafargue wrote: > I was operating portable today, with a long wire in a tree and > counterpoise on the ground, and no matter what I did, every time I pushed > the mic button, I got super strong RF feedback in audio monitoring, > apparently picked up by the MH3 cable - things got slightly better if I > tried to bunch/coil the MH3 cable. Is this common? > > I only managed to work one station in Indiana in the time I tried, most of > the time what I heard in my headphones while transmitting was > unintelligible garble, so it is no surprise others didn't hear me, I > guess... > > My KX3 has got an internal ATU and it managed to match the long wire > perfectly at each frequency I tried to operate... > > From w6jhb at me.com Sat May 28 23:48:49 2016 From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 20:48:49 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] About to give up In-Reply-To: <12cdbc73-ae59-1d3d-df26-a3a3460fce35@socal.rr.com> References: <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <3D8C61CB-9F9A-43E4-97FE-0760A2B9E715@me.com> <203f6fd1-3a1a-255b-82b5-b78e490ffbae@socal.rr.com> <12cdbc73-ae59-1d3d-df26-a3a3460fce35@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <7D66B20A-4172-4952-9E6C-90E862E131E9@me.com> Phil, Is this something new with El Capitan? I?ve always been making settings changes in the MIDI application. Anyway, I gave it a try and set USB Audio CODEC as the output device. Fired up WSJT-X and answered a CQ. It keyed the K3 for about five seconds and then the audio started coming out the iMac internal speakers. Wonderful. This is the same crud as what was happening before. Not everyone on 10.11.5 is as lucky as I am, but there are a bunch of folks who?ve been hosed by this release. Not sure if you subscribe to the WSJT-X development reflector, but the airwaves were burning on this subject over the past several weeks. Someone at Apple needs a swift kick in the pants?. Jim, W6JHB > On Saturday, May 28, 2016, at Saturday, 8:31 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > > Adding to what I said below: You do System Preferences > Sound > Input if you want your audio input to come from an external USB device (Griffin iMic, SignalinkUSB, K3s, etc.). > > I am running OS X 10.11.5 and just tested this with an iMic I happened to have with me. > > 73, Phil W7OX > > On 5/28/16 8:18 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: >> Jim (and perhaps Dick), >> >> Then go to System Preferences > Sound > Output and select the external USB device you want the as the destination for your audio output. You have to do this in OS X, not in the application software. >> >> 73, Phil W7OX >> >> >> >> On 5/28/16 7:49 PM, James Bennett wrote: >>> Dick, >>> >>> By any chance have you in the past few weeks upgraded your mac to El Capitan? I had a working system (K3, FLDIGI, WSJT-X) and silly me, upgraded to El Capitan and a subsequent follow-on update. It has completely broken my digital mode operating. The audio is now routed to the internal iMac speakers - no matter what I?ve put in the settings of either piece of software. Needless to say, with the audio going to the speakers instead of to the K3, it never goes into transmit. Apple has really screwed up things this time. I?ve since moved my digital operation off of the iMac and over to a Raspberry Pi 3 where WSJT-X is working just fine. Havent? had time to mess with FLDIGI over there yet, but maybe next week. >>> >>> Just a thought??. >>> >>> Jim, W6JHB >>> >>> >>>> On Saturday, May 28, 2016, at Saturday, 12:22 PM, Richard W Hemingway wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> I am about to give up on my K3S and PSK with my Fldigi on my Mac computer. I am unable to connect either with the SignaLink or with a straight USK connection. Neither will cause the TX light to come on or TX! I have never had t his problem before on any of my Rigs, or before when I owned a K3. Joe tried your hamlib as well as the Rig Cat settings sent to me from Elecraft. No go.??? >>>> If anyone has any bright ideas please let me know. This should be keying the K3S but it is not. Have I sset something that would block t his? >>>> All have a great Memorial weekend, remembering our fallen.. >>>> Take care, >>>> Dick. N5XRD > From kh2tj at sbcglobal.net Sun May 29 00:51:57 2016 From: kh2tj at sbcglobal.net (Todd) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 21:51:57 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2 Video In-Reply-To: <1994d114-8fc2-fa52-5955-9966b91d9532@elecraft.com> References: <1994d114-8fc2-fa52-5955-9966b91d9532@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <574A756D.8090902@sbcglobal.net> Just watched a couple of videos too from Jeff, VA2SS @ va2ss.com You guys gonna have these at Seapac next week? If so, I'm on my way up ;-) (I'll probably come up anyway for the SOTA meet/greet pizza bash) Thanks. 73, Todd KH2TJ Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: > Here is a new KX2 video of SOTA operation from K0JQZ. It also includes > a short unboxing at the beginning. See: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc79PMWJ6_o&feature=youtu.be > > Great shots of him and WG0AT! > > 73, > > Eric > /elecraft.com/ > > From roger at monitorsensors.com Sun May 29 01:24:32 2016 From: roger at monitorsensors.com (Roger Crofts) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 15:24:32 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] Scam? Message-ID: <7C9CA95F4C734F0BBA9E2C0F2D59636F@ROGERN> I have received an email which purports to come from Elecraft. The return address goes to N9SC. It directs one to a suspicious looking web site. I have not followed this link. Roger Crofts, VK4YB From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Sun May 29 02:44:13 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 23:44:13 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] Using a Sound Card for Mic (Multiple) Input(s) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1de71e5e-6a2e-6fca-684b-3641b836fd3f@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Sat,5/28/2016 5:45 AM, Joel Black wrote: > > I currently have a Focusrite 2i2 I bought after my E-MU 0204 stopped working in OS X 10.11. It has two inputs and two outputs. Experimenting the other day, I tried using my MH3 mic on the input to the sound card with the sound card output going to the MIC IN on the KX3. It didn?t work. I then realized that the MH3 is a condenser mic and needs to be powered. The 2i2 has a ?48 V phantom power? switch, but I am a little nervous of turning that on. I don?t want to let all the ?magic smoke? out of my mic. 48V phantom power is exclusively for BALANCED mics wired from PRO use. It does NOT work with the unbalanced electret mics we use with our ham gear, and it would almost certainly fry them. The "bias" that we use for unbalanced mics fulfills a similar function, but the two methods and kinds of mics are incompatible. > After all of that, I began remembering an issue I had with a Genesis G59 SDR I built several years ago - the delay in the route from audio in to the sound card, the sound card input being processed by the computer, the computer outputting that data to the transmitter. It was quite reminiscent of my days operating the HEO satellites. The delay is unnerving and I have never been able to compensate for it other than turning off MON. I?m supposing I?ll have the same delay if I incorporate a sound card for multiple inputs. > > Would I be better off just adding a mixer? You haven't said what you want do do that you can't do with a mic and a sound card, and what you expect a mixer to do. I strongly recommend that you avoid a mixer. Far better to plug and unplug if you need to -- plug in the mic for SSB, plug in a cable from computer audio for digital modes. BTW -- the need to plug and unplug is one of the shortcomings of the KX3 (and KX2) as compared to K3/K3S. With the K3/K3S, you can leave everything plugged in. I do NOT recommend a mixer -- too many complications with hum, buzz, and RFI and getting levels set right. 73, Jim K9YC From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Sun May 29 03:19:19 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 23:19:19 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3: transverter schematic? Message-ID: <201605290719.u4T7JJA7014804@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> If anyone did not guess I made a typo, below (apparently fingers had see too many posts about the KX2). ==snip Answer is the KX2-2M is very different architecture. It converts 144-148 to 50-54 MHz unlike other Elecraft transverters that convert to 28-30 MHz. == Of course I meant that ..."the KX3-2M is very different architecture. It converts 144-148 to 50-54 MHz unlike other Elecraft transverters that convert to 28-30 MHz." 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From frantz at pwpconsult.com Sun May 29 04:29:14 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 01:29:14 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] About to give up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I found the SignaLink USB VOX based PTT to be very reliable. When I am using a SignaLink, I can always know my computer is transmitting by hearing the relay click in the SignaLink. When I had it connected to the PTT of the K3, it was 100% reliable. (I have moved to a different sound interface since. I still use the SignaLink with my KX3 operating portable.) 73 Bill AE6JV On 5/28/16 at 4:52 PM, wa6nhc at gmail.com (Rick WA6NHC) wrote: >I STRONGLY suggest that you do NOT rely on the PTT from the >SignaLink at all, ever, no way, uh uh, fuggedaboudit, nyet. >You have to use the full audio drive of the SLUSB to trip it's >VOX, which is still not reliable. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | The first thing you need when | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | using a perimeter defense is a | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | perimeter. | Los Gatos, CA 95032 From lladerman at earthlink.net Sun May 29 08:34:15 2016 From: lladerman at earthlink.net (W0FK) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 05:34:15 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] FS: KX-1 Message-ID: <1464525255930-7618179.post@n2.nabble.com> Elecraft KX-1 with KXAT1 tuner, KXB3080 board, and updated with the power amplifier output mod. 80-20 meters, full output, in excellent condition, little use. I built the KX-1, Don W3FPR, added the KXB3080 and performed the power amp mod. $460 shipped CONUS. Lou, W0FK Please contact me off the list ----- St. Louis, MO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/FS-KX-1-tp7618179.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From edwest at sisqtel.net Sun May 29 09:51:29 2016 From: edwest at sisqtel.net (Ed) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 06:51:29 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Wireless stereo headset recommendations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <85e1f0c4-d93b-81ff-cd25-57de89b9e1b3@sisqtel.net> David There are a number of headsets on the market that will do the job. What to look for is an inter office device that is used for remote telephone service. Jabra has an extensive line up as does Panasonic. I have been using Jarba for years and had very good luck. The only problem is you won't find any of these that have true stereo. You can get dual ear pieces but they will be monaural not stereo. I have copied a link to the Jarba Web Site. They claim stereo but that isn't correct. They are all monaural. You won't get stereo receive along with a mic. with Bluetooth either. For that setup you will probably have to look for a Computer Gaming headset. The list prices are something that will get your attention. The best I have been able to do is to cruse eBay until something reasonable shows up. I have been using a GN9460 for about three years. It's range is in excess of 600 feet. Very easy to interface to the rig. http://jb.factoryoutletstore.com/cat/22458/Jabra-GN-Netcom-Wireless-Headsets.html Ed K6ED From w7ox at socal.rr.com Sun May 29 11:19:29 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 08:19:29 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] About to give up In-Reply-To: <7D66B20A-4172-4952-9E6C-90E862E131E9@me.com> References: <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <3D8C61CB-9F9A-43E4-97FE-0760A2B9E715@me.com> <203f6fd1-3a1a-255b-82b5-b78e490ffbae@socal.rr.com> <12cdbc73-ae59-1d3d-df26-a3a3460fce35@socal.rr.com> <7D66B20A-4172-4952-9E6C-90E862E131E9@me.com> Message-ID: Not new so far as I know, Jim. I've been doing that with usb audio devices for some years. But I must admit I've never operated WSJT-X. And when I use PSK31 I use Windows, due to the wider availability of ham radio software. My shack operating computer is an old 2010 11" MacBook Air, chosen because I can see my rigs with it in front of them and it has full-size keyboard. It's dual-boot OS X 10.11.5 and Windows 10. I do all my ham radio work on the Windows side. And for PSK31 I use Digipan (which I've been using for many years) and a Signalink USB. When I get a chance I'll try fldigi on the OS X side with the Signalink USB and see if I run into any difficulties of the type you describe. 73, Phil W7OX On 5/28/16 8:48 PM, James Bennett wrote: > Phil, > > Is this something new with El Capitan? I?ve always been making settings changes in the MIDI application. Anyway, I gave it a try and set USB Audio CODEC as the output device. Fired up WSJT-X and answered a CQ. It keyed the K3 for about five seconds and then the audio started coming out the iMac internal speakers. Wonderful. This is the same crud as what was happening before. Not everyone on 10.11.5 is as lucky as I am, but there are a bunch of folks who?ve been hosed by this release. Not sure if you subscribe to the WSJT-X development reflector, but the airwaves were burning on this subject over the past several weeks. Someone at Apple needs a swift kick in the pants?. > > Jim, W6JHB > > > >> On Saturday, May 28, 2016, at Saturday, 8:31 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: >> >> Adding to what I said below: You do System Preferences > Sound > Input if you want your audio input to come from an external USB device (Griffin iMic, SignalinkUSB, K3s, etc.). >> >> I am running OS X 10.11.5 and just tested this with an iMic I happened to have with me. >> >> 73, Phil W7OX >> >> On 5/28/16 8:18 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: >>> Jim (and perhaps Dick), >>> >>> Then go to System Preferences > Sound > Output and select the external USB device you want the as the destination for your audio output. You have to do this in OS X, not in the application software. >>> >>> 73, Phil W7OX >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/28/16 7:49 PM, James Bennett wrote: >>>> Dick, >>>> >>>> By any chance have you in the past few weeks upgraded your mac to El Capitan? I had a working system (K3, FLDIGI, WSJT-X) and silly me, upgraded to El Capitan and a subsequent follow-on update. It has completely broken my digital mode operating. The audio is now routed to the internal iMac speakers - no matter what I?ve put in the settings of either piece of software. Needless to say, with the audio going to the speakers instead of to the K3, it never goes into transmit. Apple has really screwed up things this time. I?ve since moved my digital operation off of the iMac and over to a Raspberry Pi 3 where WSJT-X is working just fine. Havent? had time to mess with FLDIGI over there yet, but maybe next week. >>>> >>>> Just a thought??. >>>> >>>> Jim, W6JHB >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Saturday, May 28, 2016, at Saturday, 12:22 PM, Richard W Hemingway wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> I am about to give up on my K3S and PSK with my Fldigi on my Mac computer. I am unable to connect either with the SignaLink or with a straight USK connection. Neither will cause the TX light to come on or TX! I have never had t his problem before on any of my Rigs, or before when I owned a K3. Joe tried your hamlib as well as the Rig Cat settings sent to me from Elecraft. No go.??? >>>>> If anyone has any bright ideas please let me know. This should be keying the K3S but it is not. Have I sset something that would block t his? >>>>> All have a great Memorial weekend, remembering our fallen.. >>>>> Take care, >>>>> Dick. N5XRD From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Sun May 29 11:42:22 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 08:42:22 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2 Video In-Reply-To: <7181aa73-6b3c-3f9e-0cbd-88a73c685a94@elecraft.com> References: <1994d114-8fc2-fa52-5955-9966b91d9532@elecraft.com> <8b69e4e7-2e2d-e6cf-a9d8-d2c19b28d149@triconet.org> <7181aa73-6b3c-3f9e-0cbd-88a73c685a94@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <71466efe-4243-39fd-76a8-dd5056381733@triconet.org> I'll hold my tongue. On 5/28/2016 5:55 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: > Its edited to show each person who called him for a QSO, with the rest in > between chopped out. He worked each of those stations. > > Eric > /elecraft.com/ From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Sun May 29 11:45:50 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 16:45:50 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Wireless stereo headset recommendations In-Reply-To: <85e1f0c4-d93b-81ff-cd25-57de89b9e1b3@sisqtel.net> References: <85e1f0c4-d93b-81ff-cd25-57de89b9e1b3@sisqtel.net> Message-ID: Thank you Ed, most useful. 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 29 May 2016, at 14:51, Ed wrote: > > David > > There are a number of headsets on the market that will do the job. What to look for is an inter office device that is used for remote telephone service. Jabra has an extensive line up as does Panasonic. I have been using Jarba for years and had very good luck. The only problem is you won't find any of these that have true stereo. You can get dual ear pieces but they will be monaural not stereo. I have copied a link to the Jarba Web Site. They claim stereo but that isn't correct. They are all monaural. You won't get stereo receive along with a mic. with Bluetooth either. For that setup you will probably have to look for a Computer Gaming headset. The list prices are something that will get your attention. The best I have been able to do is to cruse eBay until something reasonable shows up. I have been using a GN9460 for about three years. It's range is in excess of 600 feet. Very easy to interface to the rig. > > http://jb.factoryoutletstore.com/cat/22458/Jabra-GN-Netcom-Wireless-Headsets.html > > Ed > K6ED > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk From w2apf at myfairpoint.net Sun May 29 12:45:40 2016 From: w2apf at myfairpoint.net (Thaire Bryant) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 16:45:40 -0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX1 for sale Message-ID: <000001d1b9c9$89e0c830$9da25890$@myfairpoint.net> Not being used so up for sale: KX1 #2500 80, 40, 30, 20 3-4 watts out on all bands KXAT1 internal antenna tuner KXPD1 cw paddles BNC-BP BNC to binding post wire antenna adapter KX1 "Nifty Quick Reference" Tupperware case I do not have the manual but it can be downloaded from the Elecraft site. $375 Delivered, Insured Continental US Thaire W2APF From rodenkirch_llc at msn.com Sun May 29 12:59:48 2016 From: rodenkirch_llc at msn.com (Jim Rodenkirch) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 09:59:48 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Wireless stereo headset recommendations In-Reply-To: References: <57460AE5.7040404@mac.com> <85e1f0c4-d93b-81ff-cd25-57de89b9e1b3@sisqtel.net> Message-ID: <1464541188717-7618185.post@n2.nabble.com> Danid: check mazon.com.....a gaggle of wireless headphones, albeit most listed as monaural but...I didn't go through the entire list....good luck ............ 71.5/72 de K9JWV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/OT-Wireless-stereo-headset-recommendations-tp7617970p7618185.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From kevinr at coho.net Sun May 29 15:00:57 2016 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr at coho.net) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 12:00:57 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement Message-ID: <0330ff77-493e-5e9e-9e29-81ab7f40d06c@coho.net> Welcome, Due to the ongoing WPX contest the first net may or may not run. If there is space from folks dropping out of the race I'll start the twenty meter net. Otherwise I'll just run the forty meter net today. Please join us on: 14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday) 7045 kHz at 0100z Monday (6 PM PDT Sunday) 73, Kevin. KD5ONS From va3ma at me.com Sun May 29 15:40:48 2016 From: va3ma at me.com (Dan - VA3MA) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 15:40:48 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? Message-ID: <15DEDED0-2F16-4799-BF1E-234599A7C2D1@me.com> Has anyone had the opportunity to see if the KX2 out of the box will be stable enough to run JT65 & JT9 Would appreciate feedback as I?m apartment dweller and only run these digital modes with compromised antenna Thanks Dan VA3MA From w7ox at socal.rr.com Sun May 29 15:46:52 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 12:46:52 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: <15DEDED0-2F16-4799-BF1E-234599A7C2D1@me.com> References: <15DEDED0-2F16-4799-BF1E-234599A7C2D1@me.com> Message-ID: <90d3a112-442d-7345-f09c-ae5ef1ef8dcc@socal.rr.com> One of the eham reviewers mentioned using the KX2 on JT65: http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/12852 The N9JR review. Phil W7OX On 5/29/16 12:40 PM, Dan - VA3MA wrote: > Has anyone had the opportunity to see if the KX2 out of the box will be stable enough to run JT65 & JT9 > Would appreciate feedback as I?m apartment dweller and only run these digital modes with compromised antenna > Thanks > Dan VA3MA From va3mw at portcredit.net Sun May 29 16:19:20 2016 From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 16:19:20 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: <90d3a112-442d-7345-f09c-ae5ef1ef8dcc@socal.rr.com> References: <15DEDED0-2F16-4799-BF1E-234599A7C2D1@me.com> <90d3a112-442d-7345-f09c-ae5ef1ef8dcc@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: I don't believe that JT65 frequency stability at HF frequencies will be an issue. The documents say that the JT65 bandwidth is pretty generous. I've run JT65 on my Softrock without issue. Mike va3mw On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > One of the eham reviewers mentioned using the KX2 on JT65: > http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/12852 > > The N9JR review. > > Phil W7OX > > > > On 5/29/16 12:40 PM, Dan - VA3MA wrote: > >> Has anyone had the opportunity to see if the KX2 out of the box will be >> stable enough to run JT65 & JT9 >> Would appreciate feedback as I?m apartment dweller and only run these >> digital modes with compromised antenna >> Thanks >> Dan VA3MA >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to va3mw at portcredit.net > From va3ma at me.com Sun May 29 16:22:25 2016 From: va3ma at me.com (Dan - VA3MA) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 16:22:25 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: <90d3a112-442d-7345-f09c-ae5ef1ef8dcc@socal.rr.com> References: <15DEDED0-2F16-4799-BF1E-234599A7C2D1@me.com> <90d3a112-442d-7345-f09c-ae5ef1ef8dcc@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <5759B500-91E3-4BC2-802F-80759194B6F5@me.com> Hi thanks I?ve read all these c comments by others - but I have yet to get a direct confirmation from someone who has operated the KX2 enthuse digital modes! Ha! Dan > On May 29, 2016, at 3:46 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > > One of the eham reviewers mentioned using the KX2 on JT65: http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/12852 > > The N9JR review. > > Phil W7OX > > > On 5/29/16 12:40 PM, Dan - VA3MA wrote: >> Has anyone had the opportunity to see if the KX2 out of the box will be stable enough to run JT65 & JT9 >> Would appreciate feedback as I?m apartment dweller and only run these digital modes with compromised antenna >> Thanks >> Dan VA3MA > From va3mw at portcredit.net Sun May 29 16:33:01 2016 From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 16:33:01 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: <5759B500-91E3-4BC2-802F-80759194B6F5@me.com> References: <15DEDED0-2F16-4799-BF1E-234599A7C2D1@me.com> <90d3a112-442d-7345-f09c-ae5ef1ef8dcc@socal.rr.com> <5759B500-91E3-4BC2-802F-80759194B6F5@me.com> Message-ID: Dan Issues with not being able to communicate with JT65 have nothing to do with frequency stability. It has to do with just not being heard. :) Like all other digital modes, you require Transmit and Receive Audio and a PTT line. I would be very very very surprised that a KX2 can't handle JT65. JT65 is does not require a super stable transmitter. In fact, when they use it off the moon, there is significant doppler going on. Mike va3mw On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Dan - VA3MA wrote: > Hi thanks > I?ve read all these c comments by others - but I have yet to get a direct > confirmation from someone who has operated the KX2 enthuse digital modes! > Ha! > Dan > > > On May 29, 2016, at 3:46 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > > > > One of the eham reviewers mentioned using the KX2 on JT65: > http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/12852 > > > > The N9JR review. > > > > Phil W7OX > > > > > > On 5/29/16 12:40 PM, Dan - VA3MA wrote: > >> Has anyone had the opportunity to see if the KX2 out of the box will be > stable enough to run JT65 & JT9 > >> Would appreciate feedback as I?m apartment dweller and only run these > digital modes with compromised antenna > >> Thanks > >> Dan VA3MA > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to va3mw at portcredit.net > From rbiggar at ihug.co.nz Sun May 29 16:45:27 2016 From: rbiggar at ihug.co.nz (Ross) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 08:45:27 +1200 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and Signallink Message-ID: <7D4CB3D4F5384569AE0917CC8A964C40@Laptop> I have just checked my K3 again after a couple of months not using it, and I have a problem with the Signallink. Yes I know all the comments about it, but I want to get it going before I try to instal the Microham keyer. On transmit the Signallink is working perfectly, it produces the output and keys the k3, but I cannot get any audio, the line in and lineout plugs are in the correct positions on the k3. So can someone please guide me as to what could be wrong, would it be the settings on the k3 or something else. (I have checked 2 digital programs with the same result, transmit is ok, but no audio coming through.) Thanks Ross ZL1WN From va3mw at portcredit.net Sun May 29 16:45:33 2016 From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 16:45:33 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: References: <15DEDED0-2F16-4799-BF1E-234599A7C2D1@me.com> <90d3a112-442d-7345-f09c-ae5ef1ef8dcc@socal.rr.com> <5759B500-91E3-4BC2-802F-80759194B6F5@me.com> Message-ID: I have run JT65 on my KX3 at 5 watts without issue other than not having enough RF signal. Mike va3mw On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Dan Howard wrote: > Mike > The KX3 wil not work JT modes due to freq drift due to heat - one must do > the temperature compensation procedure in order to get the KX3 > freq stable? > I?m hoping that the KX2 does not need ?fiddling? in a cooler ! HIHI > 73 > Dan > > > On May 29, 2016, at 4:33 PM, Michael Walker > wrote: > > > > Dan > > > > Issues with not being able to communicate with JT65 have nothing to do > with > > frequency stability. It has to do with just not being heard. :) > > > > Like all other digital modes, you require Transmit and Receive Audio and > a > > PTT line. > > > > I would be very very very surprised that a KX2 can't handle JT65. JT65 > is > > does not require a super stable transmitter. In fact, when they use it > off > > the moon, there is significant doppler going on. > > > > Mike va3mw > > > > > > On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Dan - VA3MA wrote: > > > >> Hi thanks > >> I?ve read all these c comments by others - but I have yet to get a > direct > >> confirmation from someone who has operated the KX2 enthuse digital > modes! > >> Ha! > >> Dan > >> > >>> On May 29, 2016, at 3:46 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > >>> > >>> One of the eham reviewers mentioned using the KX2 on JT65: > >> http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/12852 > >>> > >>> The N9JR review. > >>> > >>> Phil W7OX > >>> > >>> > >>> On 5/29/16 12:40 PM, Dan - VA3MA wrote: > >>>> Has anyone had the opportunity to see if the KX2 out of the box will > be > >> stable enough to run JT65 & JT9 > >>>> Would appreciate feedback as I?m apartment dweller and only run these > >> digital modes with compromised antenna > >>>> Thanks > >>>> Dan VA3MA > >>> > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> Message delivered to va3mw at portcredit.net > >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to va3ma at me.com > > From n6kr at elecraft.com Sun May 29 17:05:50 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 14:05:50 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Strong Rd feedback in mh3 In-Reply-To: <9df8be8c-3332-7cbf-a821-491850ca6fb5@embarqmail.com> References: <9df8be8c-3332-7cbf-a821-491850ca6fb5@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: Also try a QRP balun at the radio, such as our BL1 or BL2. 73, Wayne N6KR On May 28, 2016, at 8:43 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Ed, > > Yes, that can be common with long wire antennas - that can happen with any transceiver, it is not unique to the K3 or KX3. > > Change the length of your long wire by 1/8 wavelength at the frequency you are having trouble with. > > The situation is that you have a high RF voltage on that antenna near the shack end. > Even though the tuner can match it, it can produce a strong RF Field in the shack. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 5/28/2016 11:17 PM, Edouard Lafargue wrote: >> I was operating portable today, with a long wire in a tree and >> counterpoise on the ground, and no matter what I did, every time I pushed >> the mic button, I got super strong RF feedback in audio monitoring, >> apparently picked up by the MH3 cable - things got slightly better if I >> tried to bunch/coil the MH3 cable. Is this common? >> >> I only managed to work one station in Indiana in the time I tried, most of >> the time what I heard in my headphones while transmitting was >> unintelligible garble, so it is no surprise others didn't hear me, I >> guess... >> >> My KX3 has got an internal ATU and it managed to match the long wire >> perfectly at each frequency I tried to operate... >> >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From n6kr at elecraft.com Sun May 29 17:07:18 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 14:07:18 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Beep In-Reply-To: <000001d1b951$02e0ee00$08a2ca00$@net> References: <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <46e6320c-52b8-141b-7192-82102a4a4928@embarqmail.com> <20160529010000.114632AB4C2E@mailman.qth.net> <000001d1b951$02e0ee00$08a2ca00$@net> Message-ID: <1394C923-6852-44A4-88A7-D66AC81E5AF2@elecraft.com> This may be due to a switch emulation command being sent. If so, you could set MENU:SW TONE to OFF. 73, Wayne N6KR On May 28, 2016, at 7:22 PM, Jeff Herr wrote: > In regard to the Elecraft Frequency Memory Editor: > > When using the QSY capability the KX3 does a beep. > > When I am up late at night this is problematic. > > Is there a way to turn off the "beep" > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Sun May 29 17:20:05 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 16:20:05 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re: K3 and Signallink In-Reply-To: <7ab40759-08c4-5d4a-8b07-9fcbfad7670d@mediacombb.net> References: <7ab40759-08c4-5d4a-8b07-9fcbfad7670d@mediacombb.net> Message-ID: <283630be-41ad-4028-e233-054de848623d@mediacombb.net> -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Signallink Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 16:19:26 -0500 From: Kevin Stover To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Did you check the line in and line out levels? On 5/29/2016 3:45 PM, Ross wrote: > I have just checked my K3 again after a couple of months not using it, and I have a problem with the Signallink. > Yes I know all the comments about it, but I want to get it going before I try to instal the Microham keyer. > On transmit the Signallink is working perfectly, it produces the output and keys the k3, but I cannot get any audio, the line in and lineout plugs are in the correct positions on the k3. > So can someone please guide me as to what could be wrong, would it be the settings on the k3 or something else. > (I have checked 2 digital programs with the same result, transmit is ok, but no audio coming through.) > > Thanks > Ross > ZL1WN > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post:mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered tokevin.stover at mediacombb.net > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From w4sc at windstream.net Sun May 29 18:46:57 2016 From: w4sc at windstream.net (w4sc) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 18:46:57 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Eyeball at DFARG Message-ID: KX2 had an impromptu eyeball with AK4Y, K4FI, W4DRH, W4EFZ, KK4DSD, W1TEF, and W4SJD and others at the Dutch Fork Amateur Radio Group?s shack. All attendees were impressed with the radio and it performance. It was a hit!! I expect the waiting list to be longer by Monday. From rbiggar at ihug.co.nz Sun May 29 18:54:00 2016 From: rbiggar at ihug.co.nz (Ross) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 10:54:00 +1200 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and Signallink next the Microham Message-ID: Thanks for all the comments about the signal link. I found the problem when checking Airlink express, I had the volume and tx levels set to almost zero, in Airlink express so whenI reset them to max, everything popped into life and all my other digital programs then worked perfectly. Next to try and set up the microham for digital work. All advice very gratefully accepted. Thanks Ross ZL1WN From edouard at lafargue.name Sun May 29 19:01:24 2016 From: edouard at lafargue.name (Edouard Lafargue) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 16:01:24 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Strong Rd feedback in mh3 In-Reply-To: References: <9df8be8c-3332-7cbf-a821-491850ca6fb5@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks everyone! Good advice. Now that I have better Internet access again (btw I meant "RF" not "Rd" in the subject line, of course), I discovered this article on ... elecraft.com : http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/eliminating_tx_rf_feedback_probl.htm :-) I will experiment with less random lengths for my random wires, and better counterpoises, and a small balun if necessary. 73 de ed w6ela On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Also try a QRP balun at the radio, such as our BL1 or BL2. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > On May 28, 2016, at 8:43 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > > > Ed, > > > > Yes, that can be common with long wire antennas - that can happen with > any transceiver, it is not unique to the K3 or KX3. > > > > Change the length of your long wire by 1/8 wavelength at the frequency > you are having trouble with. > > > > The situation is that you have a high RF voltage on that antenna near > the shack end. > > Even though the tuner can match it, it can produce a strong RF Field in > the shack. > > > > 73, > > Don W3FPR > > > > On 5/28/2016 11:17 PM, Edouard Lafargue wrote: > >> I was operating portable today, with a long wire in a tree and > >> counterpoise on the ground, and no matter what I did, every time I > pushed > >> the mic button, I got super strong RF feedback in audio monitoring, > >> apparently picked up by the MH3 cable - things got slightly better if I > >> tried to bunch/coil the MH3 cable. Is this common? > >> > >> I only managed to work one station in Indiana in the time I tried, most > of > >> the time what I heard in my headphones while transmitting was > >> unintelligible garble, so it is no surprise others didn't hear me, I > >> guess... > >> > >> My KX3 has got an internal ATU and it managed to match the long wire > >> perfectly at each frequency I tried to operate... > >> > >> > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com > > From herr42 at comcast.net Sun May 29 19:13:22 2016 From: herr42 at comcast.net (Jeff Herr) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 16:13:22 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Beep In-Reply-To: <1394C923-6852-44A4-88A7-D66AC81E5AF2@elecraft.com> References: <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <46e6320c-52b8-141b-7192-82102a4a4928@embarqmail.com> <20160529010000.114632AB4C2E@mailman.qth.net> <000001d1b951$02e0ee00$08a2ca00$@net> <1394C923-6852-44A4-88A7-D66AC81E5AF2@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <000301d1b9ff$b2b6f9b0$1824ed10$@net> That is a no go. -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Burdick [mailto:n6kr at elecraft.com] Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 14:07 PM To: Jeff Herr Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Beep This may be due to a switch emulation command being sent. If so, you could set MENU:SW TONE to OFF. 73, Wayne N6KR On May 28, 2016, at 7:22 PM, Jeff Herr wrote: > In regard to the Elecraft Frequency Memory Editor: > > When using the QSY capability the KX3 does a beep. > > When I am up late at night this is problematic. > > Is there a way to turn off the "beep" > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > n6kr at elecraft.com From n6kr at elecraft.com Sun May 29 19:15:39 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 16:15:39 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Beep In-Reply-To: <000301d1b9ff$b2b6f9b0$1824ed10$@net> References: <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1170346495.795454.1464463372469.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <46e6320c-52b8-141b-7192-82102a4a4928@embarqmail.com> <20160529010000.114632AB4C2E@mailman.qth.net> <000001d1b951$02e0ee00$08a2ca00$@net> <1394C923-6852-44A4-88A7-D66AC81E5AF2@elecraft.com> <000301d1b9ff$b2b6f9b0$1824ed10$@net> Message-ID: I'll add this to the high-priority bug list. 73, Wayne N6KR On May 29, 2016, at 4:13 PM, "Jeff Herr" wrote: > That is a no go. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne Burdick [mailto:n6kr at elecraft.com] > Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 14:07 PM > To: Jeff Herr > Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Beep > > This may be due to a switch emulation command being sent. If so, you could > set MENU:SW TONE to OFF. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > On May 28, 2016, at 7:22 PM, Jeff Herr wrote: > >> In regard to the Elecraft Frequency Memory Editor: >> >> When using the QSY capability the KX3 does a beep. >> >> When I am up late at night this is problematic. >> >> Is there a way to turn off the "beep" >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email >> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >> n6kr at elecraft.com > From josh at voodoolab.com Sun May 29 19:57:35 2016 From: josh at voodoolab.com (Josh Fiden) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 16:57:35 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: References: <15DEDED0-2F16-4799-BF1E-234599A7C2D1@me.com> <90d3a112-442d-7345-f09c-ae5ef1ef8dcc@socal.rr.com> <5759B500-91E3-4BC2-802F-80759194B6F5@me.com> Message-ID: <574B81EF.5070003@voodoolab.com> Yes, but... the earth & moon don't do anything abrupt. 73, Josh W6XU On 5/29/2016 1:33 PM, Michael Walker wrote: > ...does not require a super stable transmitter. In fact, when they use it off > the moon, there is significant doppler going on. From nf4l at comcast.net Sun May 29 20:11:43 2016 From: nf4l at comcast.net (Mike Reublin NF4L) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 20:11:43 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and Signallink next the Microham In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Why would you use two interfaces for digital? 73, Mike NF4L > On May 29, 2016, at 6:54 PM, Ross wrote: > > Thanks for all the comments about the signal link. > I found the problem when checking Airlink express, I had the volume and tx levels set to almost zero, in Airlink express so whenI reset them to max, everything popped into life and all my other digital programs then worked perfectly. > > Next to try and set up the microham for digital work. > All advice very gratefully accepted. > Thanks > Ross > ZL1WN > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nf4l at comcast.net From mike at mdodd.com Sun May 29 20:24:12 2016 From: mike at mdodd.com (Mike Dodd) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 20:24:12 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and Signallink In-Reply-To: <7D4CB3D4F5384569AE0917CC8A964C40@Laptop> References: <7D4CB3D4F5384569AE0917CC8A964C40@Laptop> Message-ID: <574B882C.3070004@mdodd.com> On 5/29/2016 4:45 PM, Ross wrote: > ...the Signallink is working perfectly, > it produces the output and keys the k3, but I cannot get any audio, > the line in and lineout plugs are in the correct positions on the > k3. So can someone please guide me as to what could be wrong, would > it be the settings on the k3 or something else. Just a stab in the dark.... Have you selected the correct audio input for digital mode on the menu? My K3s has the built-in USB sound card, so I don't know what menu selections are available without one. Are you sure the SignaLink is producing audio? Have you listened with phones plugged into its monitor(?) jack? -- 73, Mike N4CF Louisa County, VA USA Elecraft K3s/100 Carolina Windom up 45' http://n4cf.mdodd.com From aurich85 at yahoo.com Sun May 29 20:51:02 2016 From: aurich85 at yahoo.com (Luke) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 18:51:02 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? Message-ID: <815270.21656.bm@smtp108.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From jthorpe at liberty.edu Sun May 29 20:56:15 2016 From: jthorpe at liberty.edu (Thorpe, Jeffrey) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 00:56:15 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Auto Power Off suggestion Message-ID: <256854EA-F954-47C4-B3FD-31743D1A25F7@liberty.edu> Just a suggestion for an upcoming firmware update: How about allowing an auto power off more selectable than 20 minutes or less (plus infinite)? Sometimes I need to leave, and while I am recording to my tablet, I'll be gone for a few hours, coming back to everything dead (batteries in both). Being able to select up to, say, an hour, would be good (for me at least). Jeff - KG7HDZ From lists at subich.com Sun May 29 22:21:17 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 22:21:17 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and Signallink next the Microham In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Next to try and set up the microham for digital work. Which microHAM Interface? In general, set the K3/K3S to DATA mode and select MENU:MIC SEL = LINE IN, set Mic Gain (LINE) to about 15 and configure the microHAM interface audio levels as documented in the "Setting Audio Levels" section of the microHAM Users Manual. As a final "touch up" adjust the K3 "Mic Gain" for four bars of ALC (the fifth bar can flicker). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/29/2016 6:54 PM, Ross wrote: > Thanks for all the comments about the signal link. > I found the problem when checking Airlink express, I had the volume and tx levels set to almost zero, in Airlink express so whenI reset them to max, everything popped into life and all my other digital programs then worked perfectly. > > Next to try and set up the microham for digital work. > All advice very gratefully accepted. > Thanks > Ross > ZL1WN > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to lists at subich.com > From va3mw at portcredit.net Sun May 29 23:00:51 2016 From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 23:00:51 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: <815270.21656.bm@smtp108.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <815270.21656.bm@smtp108.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The moon bounces around and causes some pretty good doppler. Good thing that JT65-HF also has AFC built in. http://www.packetradio.com/pdfzips/jt65-hf-setup.pdf *AFC enables automatic frequency control and will attempt to follow a signal that exhibits drift. Its original intent is to compensate for Doppler shift when using JT65 for EME contacts, but it has application on HF as well. Not for Doppler shift compensation, but for stations who show VFO drift.* The biggest problem is clock drift, not RF drift. Regardless, the beta testers claimed the did JT65 without issue. Mike va3mw On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 8:51 PM, Luke via Elecraft wrote: > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to va3mw at portcredit.net > From esteptony at gmail.com Sun May 29 23:08:31 2016 From: esteptony at gmail.com (Tony Estep) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 22:08:31 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: References: <15DEDED0-2F16-4799-BF1E-234599A7C2D1@me.com> <90d3a112-442d-7345-f09c-ae5ef1ef8dcc@socal.rr.com> <5759B500-91E3-4BC2-802F-80759194B6F5@me.com> Message-ID: > > > Issues with not being able to communicate with JT65 have nothing to do with > frequency stability.... =========== Actually, frequency stability is the key issue with JT65. The transmit frequency can not drift more than about 8 hz during transmission, or the receiving station will probably not be able to copy. It was this exact issue that led to the development of the temp compensation scheme for the KX3. The point of the original question was to determine whether or not the KX2 needs such a compensation routine, or is stable enough as shipped. If you run a KX3 without the compensation you may think they can't hear you when actually the problem is in the small drift in your transmit frequency. I first discovered this when running WSPR on the KX3 and listening to myself on a nearby K3. The graphic display of carrier frequency offered by WSPR made it clear what was happening. My stock KX3 drifted by about 14 Hz in the first half-minute or so of transmission. Contacts on JT65 were not impossible, but they were rare, as were WSPR reports. You can search the archives for many, many posts on this subject, and look on the Elecraft website for the recommended fix, which involves putting your KX3 in the fridge, then running a compensation routine while you warm it up with a heat gun. Meanwhile, I would be interested to know the answer to the original question, as I am sure many others would be as well. Tony KT0NY From va3ma at me.com Sun May 29 23:14:54 2016 From: va3ma at me.com (Dan - VA3MA) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 23:14:54 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: <1374391916.1383641.1464575843650.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <815270.21656.bm@smtp108.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <25FC4A29-8499-41FD-87CA-9513AD738326@me.com> <1374391916.1383641.1464575843650.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1D8D3846-5F75-4CD2-AD11-BFDF8E3687C5@me.com> Luke Thanks - just what I needed to know! Have you tried JT9 ? Perhaps some sort of heatsink/handles added to the case might help?? 73 Dan VA3MA On 2016-05-29, at 22:37, Luke wrote: Hmm, not sure why it cut out my message. Here's what I wrote: I've used my KX2 on WSPR and JT65 and it appears to be plenty stable. I used to have a KX3 and sold it because it wouldn't decode WSPR between transmit cycles due to excessive drift. I've kept the KX2 to <5 watts because the right sideplate gets very hot with the high duty cycle. I've actually just been sitting here running JT65 @ 10 watts when I got your email, and it is doing pretty well. I had 3 back to back QSO's and on the last transmission the PA Temp got up to 47C (~117F) which doesn't seem too bad. As it cools off there is no drifting or slanting of signals on the waterfall either. I think the 1 minute on/off duty cycle of JT65 is very doable with the KX2, and WSPR might be pushing it. The other night the sideplate got quite hot running WSPR at 5 watts. Luke AD0KI From: Dan - VA3MA To: Luke Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? Luke No content???? > On May 29, 2016, at 8:51 PM, Luke via Elecraft wrote: > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to va3ma at me.com From n6kr at elecraft.com Sun May 29 23:35:15 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 20:35:15 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: <1D8D3846-5F75-4CD2-AD11-BFDF8E3687C5@me.com> References: <815270.21656.bm@smtp108.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <25FC4A29-8499-41FD-87CA-9513AD738326@me.com> <1374391916.1383641.1464575843650.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1D8D3846-5F75-4CD2-AD11-BFDF8E3687C5@me.com> Message-ID: I'm glad it's working. But just in case, we will also be providing an optional extended temperature compensation procedure for the KX2. 73, Wayne > On 2016-05-29, at 22:37, Luke wrote: > > Hmm, not sure why it cut out my message. Here's what I wrote: > > I've used my KX2 on WSPR and JT65 and it appears to be plenty stable. I used to have a KX3 and sold it because it wouldn't decode WSPR between transmit cycles due to excessive drift. I've kept the KX2 to <5 watts because the right sideplate gets very hot with the high duty cycle. > > I've actually just been sitting here running JT65 @ 10 watts when I got your email, and it is doing pretty well. I had 3 back to back QSO's and on the last transmission the PA Temp got up to 47C (~117F) which doesn't seem too bad. As it cools off there is no drifting or slanting of signals on the waterfall either. I think the 1 minute on/off duty cycle of JT65 is very doable with the KX2, and WSPR might be pushing it. The other night the sideplate got quite hot running WSPR at 5 watts. > > Luke > AD0KI From va3ma at me.com Sun May 29 23:42:14 2016 From: va3ma at me.com (D Howard) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 23:42:14 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: References: <815270.21656.bm@smtp108.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <25FC4A29-8499-41FD-87CA-9513AD738326@me.com> <1374391916.1383641.1464575843650.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1D8D3846-5F75-4CD2-AD11-BFDF8E3687C5@me.com> Message-ID: Wayne I would imagine a bit of cooling on the KX2 end plate will help also? Heat sink... Happy to see it is within limits for WSJT modes without freezing it!! Hi hi Dan VA3MA > On May 29, 2016, at 11:35 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > I'm glad it's working. But just in case, we will also be providing an optional extended temperature compensation procedure for the KX2. > > 73, > Wayne > > >> On 2016-05-29, at 22:37, Luke wrote: >> >> Hmm, not sure why it cut out my message. Here's what I wrote: >> >> I've used my KX2 on WSPR and JT65 and it appears to be plenty stable. I used to have a KX3 and sold it because it wouldn't decode WSPR between transmit cycles due to excessive drift. I've kept the KX2 to <5 watts because the right sideplate gets very hot with the high duty cycle. >> >> I've actually just been sitting here running JT65 @ 10 watts when I got your email, and it is doing pretty well. I had 3 back to back QSO's and on the last transmission the PA Temp got up to 47C (~117F) which doesn't seem too bad. As it cools off there is no drifting or slanting of signals on the waterfall either. I think the 1 minute on/off duty cycle of JT65 is very doable with the KX2, and WSPR might be pushing it. The other night the sideplate got quite hot running WSPR at 5 watts. >> >> Luke >> AD0KI > > > From kk7p4dsp at gmail.com Sun May 29 23:45:03 2016 From: kk7p4dsp at gmail.com (Lyle) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 20:45:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: <1D8D3846-5F75-4CD2-AD11-BFDF8E3687C5@me.com> References: <815270.21656.bm@smtp108.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <25FC4A29-8499-41FD-87CA-9513AD738326@me.com> <1374391916.1383641.1464575843650.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1D8D3846-5F75-4CD2-AD11-BFDF8E3687C5@me.com> Message-ID: The local oscillator design of the KX2 is very different from the KX3, as are the thermal isolation of the oscillator from the PA and the high current paths in the radio. There is as yet no field temperature compensation procedure available for the KX2 nor is it clear that one is needed. At least one KX2 field tester operated JT65 successfully with the KX2. There are enough KX2 radios in the field now that it should be a simple matter for an owner to measure the stability of the radio in this mode and report the results to the group to satisfy the curious... 73, Lyle KK7P (on "vacation") Sent from my iPhone > On May 29, 2016, at 8:14 PM, Dan - VA3MA wrote: > > Luke > Thanks - just what I needed to know! > Have you tried JT9 ? > Perhaps some sort of heatsink/handles added to the case might help?? > 73 > Dan VA3MA > > > On 2016-05-29, at 22:37, Luke wrote: > > Hmm, not sure why it cut out my message. Here's what I wrote: > > I've used my KX2 on WSPR and JT65 and it appears to be plenty stable. I used to have a KX3 and sold it because it wouldn't decode WSPR between transmit cycles due to excessive drift. I've kept the KX2 to <5 watts because the right sideplate gets very hot with the high duty cycle. > > I've actually just been sitting here running JT65 @ 10 watts when I got your email, and it is doing pretty well. I had 3 back to back QSO's and on the last transmission the PA Temp got up to 47C (~117F) which doesn't seem too bad. As it cools off there is no drifting or slanting of signals on the waterfall either. I think the 1 minute on/off duty cycle of JT65 is very doable with the KX2, and WSPR might be pushing it. The other night the sideplate got quite hot running WSPR at 5 watts. > > Luke > AD0KI > > > From: Dan - VA3MA > To: Luke > Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 8:12 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? > > Luke > No content???? > >> On May 29, 2016, at 8:51 PM, Luke via Elecraft wrote: >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to va3ma at me.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kk7p4dsp at gmail.com From va3ma at me.com Sun May 29 23:45:47 2016 From: va3ma at me.com (D Howard) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 23:45:47 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: <90372305.1342351.1464578455894.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <815270.21656.bm@smtp108.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <25FC4A29-8499-41FD-87CA-9513AD738326@me.com> <1374391916.1383641.1464575843650.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1D8D3846-5F75-4CD2-AD11-BFDF8E3687C5@me.com> <90372305.1342351.1464578455894.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <170F1FA1-776F-4B06-92E6-A6231EF373F0@me.com> Luke I too sold my KX3 for the same reason- no WSJT. Happy to see KX2 capable with care Dan > On May 29, 2016, at 11:20 PM, Luke wrote: > > I just tried JT9 actually and had no problems. If you head over to PSKReporter and type in my call sign you can see how it's been working for me this evening. It seems to heat up a little faster using JT9, but it's still managable. I don't mind taking a few minutes between QSO's to let things cool off. From my understanding Gemsproducts.com already has KX2 side handles in the works and I will definitely pick some up and see how they work. I can only imagine that any more metal on the side to pick up some extra heat will only be a good thing. > > Luke > AD0KI > > > > > From: Dan - VA3MA > To: Luke > Cc: Elecraft > Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 9:14 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? > > Luke > Thanks - just what I needed to know! > Have you tried JT9 ? > Perhaps some sort of heatsink/handles added to the case might help?? > 73 > Dan VA3MA > > > On 2016-05-29, at 22:37, Luke wrote: > > Hmm, not sure why it cut out my message. Here's what I wrote: > > I've used my KX2 on WSPR and JT65 and it appears to be plenty stable. I used to have a KX3 and sold it because it wouldn't decode WSPR between transmit cycles due to excessive drift. I've kept the KX2 to <5 watts because the right sideplate gets very hot with the high duty cycle. > > I've actually just been sitting here running JT65 @ 10 watts when I got your email, and it is doing pretty well. I had 3 back to back QSO's and on the last transmission the PA Temp got up to 47C (~117F) which doesn't seem too bad. As it cools off there is no drifting or slanting of signals on the waterfall either. I think the 1 minute on/off duty cycle of JT65 is very doable with the KX2, and WSPR might be pushing it. The other night the sideplate got quite hot running WSPR at 5 watts. > > Luke > AD0KI > > > From: Dan - VA3MA > To: Luke > Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 8:12 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? > > Luke > No content???? > > > On May 29, 2016, at 8:51 PM, Luke via Elecraft wrote: > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to va3ma at me.com > > > From va3ma at me.com Sun May 29 23:50:07 2016 From: va3ma at me.com (D Howard) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 23:50:07 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: References: <815270.21656.bm@smtp108.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <25FC4A29-8499-41FD-87CA-9513AD738326@me.com> <1374391916.1383641.1464575843650.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1D8D3846-5F75-4CD2-AD11-BFDF8E3687C5@me.com> Message-ID: <595A33CB-9339-43DF-9578-BBA030DD668B@me.com> Lyle Such data would be very beneficial. And result in more KX2 sales - ha if that could be handled!! Note that Wayne just posted that a temp comp procedure will be posted. Dan VA3MA > On May 29, 2016, at 11:45 PM, Lyle wrote: > > The local oscillator design of the KX2 is very different from the KX3, as are the thermal isolation of the oscillator from the PA and the high current paths in the radio. There is as yet no field temperature compensation procedure available for the KX2 nor is it clear that one is needed. At least one KX2 field tester operated JT65 successfully with the KX2. > > There are enough KX2 radios in the field now that it should be a simple matter for an owner to measure the stability of the radio in this mode and report the results to the group to satisfy the curious... > > 73, > > Lyle KK7P (on "vacation") > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 29, 2016, at 8:14 PM, Dan - VA3MA wrote: >> >> Luke >> Thanks - just what I needed to know! >> Have you tried JT9 ? >> Perhaps some sort of heatsink/handles added to the case might help?? >> 73 >> Dan VA3MA >> >> >> On 2016-05-29, at 22:37, Luke wrote: >> >> Hmm, not sure why it cut out my message. Here's what I wrote: >> >> I've used my KX2 on WSPR and JT65 and it appears to be plenty stable. I used to have a KX3 and sold it because it wouldn't decode WSPR between transmit cycles due to excessive drift. I've kept the KX2 to <5 watts because the right sideplate gets very hot with the high duty cycle. >> >> I've actually just been sitting here running JT65 @ 10 watts when I got your email, and it is doing pretty well. I had 3 back to back QSO's and on the last transmission the PA Temp got up to 47C (~117F) which doesn't seem too bad. As it cools off there is no drifting or slanting of signals on the waterfall either. I think the 1 minute on/off duty cycle of JT65 is very doable with the KX2, and WSPR might be pushing it. The other night the sideplate got quite hot running WSPR at 5 watts. >> >> Luke >> AD0KI >> >> >> From: Dan - VA3MA >> To: Luke >> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 8:12 PM >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? >> >> Luke >> No content???? >> >>> On May 29, 2016, at 8:51 PM, Luke via Elecraft wrote: >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to va3ma at me.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to kk7p4dsp at gmail.com From rbiggar at ihug.co.nz Sun May 29 23:59:12 2016 From: rbiggar at ihug.co.nz (Ross) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 15:59:12 +1200 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and Signallink next the Microham In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0703BD69DE994D019FF2435ADEA0FC5B@Laptop> Thanks for the comments. The Microham is the Keyer II. I have connected the line in,line out and the usb cable to the pc, are there any other connections I need to make?? Yes the multicore cable from the k3 is the one for the k3 it is marked k3. Thanks Ross -----Original Message----- From: Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 2:21 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Signallink next the Microham > Next to try and set up the microham for digital work. Which microHAM Interface? In general, set the K3/K3S to DATA mode and select MENU:MIC SEL = LINE IN, set Mic Gain (LINE) to about 15 and configure the microHAM interface audio levels as documented in the "Setting Audio Levels" section of the microHAM Users Manual. As a final "touch up" adjust the K3 "Mic Gain" for four bars of ALC (the fifth bar can flicker). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/29/2016 6:54 PM, Ross wrote: > Thanks for all the comments about the signal link. > I found the problem when checking Airlink express, I had the volume and tx > levels set to almost zero, in Airlink express so whenI reset them to max, > everything popped into life and all my other digital programs then worked > perfectly. > > Next to try and set up the microham for digital work. > All advice very gratefully accepted. > Thanks > Ross > ZL1WN > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to lists at subich.com > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rbiggar at ihug.co.nz From lladerman at earthlink.net Mon May 30 00:17:07 2016 From: lladerman at earthlink.net (W0FK) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 21:17:07 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] FS: KX-1 In-Reply-To: <1464525255930-7618179.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1464525255930-7618179.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1464581827702-7618217.post@n2.nabble.com> Sold! ----- St. Louis, MO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/FS-KX-1-tp7618179p7618217.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From w5un at wt.net Mon May 30 00:33:43 2016 From: w5un at wt.net (Dave Blaschke, w5un) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 04:33:43 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Audacity recorder with Xonar U& & NaP3 Message-ID: <1e447964-9fbd-e507-ac6b-265d0c0dad34@wt.net> Is anyone here running their K3 with LP-Pan, NaP3, and Xonar U7 sound card? I am attempting to make Audacity work with this scheme, but am unable to get it to record. Dave, W5UN From n6kr at elecraft.com Mon May 30 00:43:15 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 21:43:15 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: <595A33CB-9339-43DF-9578-BBA030DD668B@me.com> References: <815270.21656.bm@smtp108.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <25FC4A29-8499-41FD-87CA-9513AD738326@me.com> <1374391916.1383641.1464575843650.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1D8D3846-5F75-4CD2-AD11-BFDF8E3687C5@me.com> <595A33CB-9339-43DF-9578-BBA030DD668B@me.com> Message-ID: <0648947F-CF8E-4AC3-82B1-87F923723FF5@elecraft.com> Lyle is on vacation and didn't get that memo. He's above and beyond the call of duty posting at all :) Also note that the latest production KX3 RF board (rev. E) has the synth circuitry a lot farther from the PA and driver. This significantly reduced the thermal gradient. (The other major Rev. E RF board improvement was tighter 17/15/12/10 meter band-pass filters. These were inherited by the KX2 as well.) Wayne N6KR On May 29, 2016, at 8:50 PM, D Howard wrote: > Lyle > Such data would be very beneficial. > And result in more KX2 sales - ha if that could be handled!! > Note that Wayne just posted that a temp comp procedure will be posted. > Dan VA3MA > >> On May 29, 2016, at 11:45 PM, Lyle wrote: >> >> The local oscillator design of the KX2 is very different from the KX3, as are the thermal isolation of the oscillator from the PA and the high current paths in the radio. There is as yet no field temperature compensation procedure available for the KX2 nor is it clear that one is needed. At least one KX2 field tester operated JT65 successfully with the KX2. >> >> There are enough KX2 radios in the field now that it should be a simple matter for an owner to measure the stability of the radio in this mode and report the results to the group to satisfy the curious... >> >> 73, >> >> Lyle KK7P (on "vacation") >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 29, 2016, at 8:14 PM, Dan - VA3MA wrote: >>> >>> Luke >>> Thanks - just what I needed to know! >>> Have you tried JT9 ? >>> Perhaps some sort of heatsink/handles added to the case might help?? >>> 73 >>> Dan VA3MA >>> >>> >>> On 2016-05-29, at 22:37, Luke wrote: >>> >>> Hmm, not sure why it cut out my message. Here's what I wrote: >>> >>> I've used my KX2 on WSPR and JT65 and it appears to be plenty stable. I used to have a KX3 and sold it because it wouldn't decode WSPR between transmit cycles due to excessive drift. I've kept the KX2 to <5 watts because the right sideplate gets very hot with the high duty cycle. >>> >>> I've actually just been sitting here running JT65 @ 10 watts when I got your email, and it is doing pretty well. I had 3 back to back QSO's and on the last transmission the PA Temp got up to 47C (~117F) which doesn't seem too bad. As it cools off there is no drifting or slanting of signals on the waterfall either. I think the 1 minute on/off duty cycle of JT65 is very doable with the KX2, and WSPR might be pushing it. The other night the sideplate got quite hot running WSPR at 5 watts. >>> >>> Luke >>> AD0KI >>> >>> >>> From: Dan - VA3MA >>> To: Luke >>> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 8:12 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? >>> >>> Luke >>> No content???? >>> >>>> On May 29, 2016, at 8:51 PM, Luke via Elecraft wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to va3ma at me.com >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to kk7p4dsp at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From rbiggar at ihug.co.nz Mon May 30 03:25:00 2016 From: rbiggar at ihug.co.nz (Ross) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 19:25:00 +1200 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and Microham keyer II Message-ID: <8894A8EA6730463B9A02C69CFEEA3583@Laptop> Advice please, I have the Microham working on receive, but I cannot get the transmission side going for digital modes. Using Airlink Express (or any other digital program) I can get the PTT LED on the Microham to come on but it doesnt bring the k3 into tx. I have plugged the microham into the ACC socket, to try to get the K3 to transmit, but that doesn?t work. I have used the setup given in the Microham manual, so far no luck. Ideas please as to what I am missing. Thanks Roass ZL1WN From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Mon May 30 04:01:43 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 09:01:43 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: <170F1FA1-776F-4B06-92E6-A6231EF373F0@me.com> References: <815270.21656.bm@smtp108.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <25FC4A29-8499-41FD-87CA-9513AD738326@me.com> <1374391916.1383641.1464575843650.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1D8D3846-5F75-4CD2-AD11-BFDF8E3687C5@me.com> <90372305.1342351.1464578455894.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <170F1FA1-776F-4B06-92E6-A6231EF373F0@me.com> Message-ID: <29695946-EF26-4340-8CC8-F56F76A2A8DA@yahoo.co.uk> Dan , I am surprised that you couldn't get WSJT to go with your KX3 and had to sell it. I am using my KX3 (note not a KX2) on WSJT on 144 MHz EME JT65b. I did however do the extended temperature VFO compensation first and that perhaps is a key requirement. The KX3 was actually more stable than my original 144 MHz transverter's TCXO, which I had to replace with a better TCXO to get the transmit drift to satisfactory levels. 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 30 May 2016, at 04:45, D Howard wrote: > > Luke > I too sold my KX3 for the same reason- no WSJT. > Happy to see KX2 capable with care > Dan > >> On May 29, 2016, at 11:20 PM, Luke wrote: >> >> I just tried JT9 actually and had no problems. If you head over to PSKReporter and type in my call sign you can see how it's been working for me this evening. It seems to heat up a little faster using JT9, but it's still managable. I don't mind taking a few minutes between QSO's to let things cool off. From my understanding Gemsproducts.com already has KX2 side handles in the works and I will definitely pick some up and see how they work. I can only imagine that any more metal on the side to pick up some extra heat will only be a good thing. >> >> Luke >> AD0KI >> >> >> >> >> From: Dan - VA3MA >> To: Luke >> Cc: Elecraft >> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 9:14 PM >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? >> >> Luke >> Thanks - just what I needed to know! >> Have you tried JT9 ? >> Perhaps some sort of heatsink/handles added to the case might help?? >> 73 >> Dan VA3MA >> >> >> On 2016-05-29, at 22:37, Luke wrote: >> >> Hmm, not sure why it cut out my message. Here's what I wrote: >> >> I've used my KX2 on WSPR and JT65 and it appears to be plenty stable. I used to have a KX3 and sold it because it wouldn't decode WSPR between transmit cycles due to excessive drift. I've kept the KX2 to <5 watts because the right sideplate gets very hot with the high duty cycle. >> >> I've actually just been sitting here running JT65 @ 10 watts when I got your email, and it is doing pretty well. I had 3 back to back QSO's and on the last transmission the PA Temp got up to 47C (~117F) which doesn't seem too bad. As it cools off there is no drifting or slanting of signals on the waterfall either. I think the 1 minute on/off duty cycle of JT65 is very doable with the KX2, and WSPR might be pushing it. The other night the sideplate got quite hot running WSPR at 5 watts. >> >> Luke >> AD0KI >> >> >> From: Dan - VA3MA >> To: Luke >> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 8:12 PM >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? >> >> Luke >> No content???? >> >>> On May 29, 2016, at 8:51 PM, Luke via Elecraft wrote: >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to va3ma at me.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk From ve3iay at gmail.com Mon May 30 06:08:38 2016 From: ve3iay at gmail.com (Richard Ferch) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 06:08:38 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Audacity recorder with Xonar U& & NaP3 Message-ID: I am using a very similar combination (K3, LP-Pan/LP-Bridge/NaP3, Xonar U5) and I have successfully recorded received audio with Audacity. You didn't mention what sound card you were using for audio recording, but you cannot use the same sound card for audio that NaP3 is using with the LP-Pan. I have a separate sound card that I use for digital modes, fed from the K3's Line Out jack, and that is the one I use for recording received audio in non-digital modes. As I recall, once I had worked out which controls to use in Audacity it worked FB. After trying both, I ended up using QSOrder instead of Audacity, but that was because of convenience issues, not the basic recording functionality. 73, Rich VE3KI W5UN wrote: Is anyone here running their K3 with LP-Pan, NaP3, and Xonar U7 sound card? I am attempting to make Audacity work with this scheme, but am unable to get it to record. From va3ma at me.com Mon May 30 07:50:57 2016 From: va3ma at me.com (D Howard) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 07:50:57 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: <29695946-EF26-4340-8CC8-F56F76A2A8DA@yahoo.co.uk> References: <815270.21656.bm@smtp108.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <25FC4A29-8499-41FD-87CA-9513AD738326@me.com> <1374391916.1383641.1464575843650.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1D8D3846-5F75-4CD2-AD11-BFDF8E3687C5@me.com> <90372305.1342351.1464578455894.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <170F1FA1-776F-4B06-92E6-A6231EF373F0@me.com> <29695946-EF26-4340-8CC8-F56F76A2A8DA@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <687293BB-D71E-4442-AF02-E889649FD9E2@me.com> David I thought at the price I paid for the KX3 I shouldn't have to do the compensation nor run the KX3 at such reduced power once compensated. My trusty old FT817 worked fine. I also assumed Elecraft would address the issue with an updated KX3 -ie an 'KX3s' at some point. So I sold it awaiting the 'upgrade' which turned out to be the KX2 ! Which is far more stable out of the box. I'm happy to now order a KX2! 73/72 Dan VA3MA > On May 30, 2016, at 4:01 AM, David Anderson wrote: > > Dan , > > I am surprised that you couldn't get WSJT to go with your KX3 and had to sell it. > > I am using my KX3 (note not a KX2) on WSJT on 144 MHz EME JT65b. I did however do the extended temperature VFO compensation first and that perhaps is a key requirement. The KX3 was actually more stable than my original 144 MHz transverter's TCXO, which I had to replace with a better TCXO to get the transmit drift to satisfactory levels. > > > 73 from David GM4JJJ > >> On 30 May 2016, at 04:45, D Howard wrote: >> >> Luke >> I too sold my KX3 for the same reason- no WSJT. >> Happy to see KX2 capable with care >> Dan >> >>> On May 29, 2016, at 11:20 PM, Luke wrote: >>> >>> I just tried JT9 actually and had no problems. If you head over to PSKReporter and type in my call sign you can see how it's been working for me this evening. It seems to heat up a little faster using JT9, but it's still managable. I don't mind taking a few minutes between QSO's to let things cool off. From my understanding Gemsproducts.com already has KX2 side handles in the works and I will definitely pick some up and see how they work. I can only imagine that any more metal on the side to pick up some extra heat will only be a good thing. >>> >>> Luke >>> AD0KI >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Dan - VA3MA >>> To: Luke >>> Cc: Elecraft >>> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 9:14 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? >>> >>> Luke >>> Thanks - just what I needed to know! >>> Have you tried JT9 ? >>> Perhaps some sort of heatsink/handles added to the case might help?? >>> 73 >>> Dan VA3MA >>> >>> >>> On 2016-05-29, at 22:37, Luke wrote: >>> >>> Hmm, not sure why it cut out my message. Here's what I wrote: >>> >>> I've used my KX2 on WSPR and JT65 and it appears to be plenty stable. I used to have a KX3 and sold it because it wouldn't decode WSPR between transmit cycles due to excessive drift. I've kept the KX2 to <5 watts because the right sideplate gets very hot with the high duty cycle. >>> >>> I've actually just been sitting here running JT65 @ 10 watts when I got your email, and it is doing pretty well. I had 3 back to back QSO's and on the last transmission the PA Temp got up to 47C (~117F) which doesn't seem too bad. As it cools off there is no drifting or slanting of signals on the waterfall either. I think the 1 minute on/off duty cycle of JT65 is very doable with the KX2, and WSPR might be pushing it. The other night the sideplate got quite hot running WSPR at 5 watts. >>> >>> Luke >>> AD0KI >>> >>> >>> From: Dan - VA3MA >>> To: Luke >>> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 8:12 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? >>> >>> Luke >>> No content???? >>> >>>> On May 29, 2016, at 8:51 PM, Luke via Elecraft wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to va3ma at me.com >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk > From va3ma at me.com Mon May 30 08:00:04 2016 From: va3ma at me.com (D Howard) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 08:00:04 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: <0648947F-CF8E-4AC3-82B1-87F923723FF5@elecraft.com> References: <815270.21656.bm@smtp108.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <25FC4A29-8499-41FD-87CA-9513AD738326@me.com> <1374391916.1383641.1464575843650.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1D8D3846-5F75-4CD2-AD11-BFDF8E3687C5@me.com> <595A33CB-9339-43DF-9578-BBA030DD668B@me.com> <0648947F-CF8E-4AC3-82B1-87F923723FF5@elecraft.com> Message-ID: Wayne As Lyle mentions in his email for the KX2 - it would be helpful if someone (Elecraft?) would measure the stability of the new revE KX3 in WSJT modes and post the results. Hopefully resulting in increased sales! Thanks for your comments 73 Dan VA3MA > On May 30, 2016, at 12:43 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > Lyle is on vacation and didn't get that memo. He's above and beyond the call of duty posting at all :) > > Also note that the latest production KX3 RF board (rev. E) has the synth circuitry a lot farther from the PA and driver. This significantly reduced the thermal gradient. (The other major Rev. E RF board improvement was tighter 17/15/12/10 meter band-pass filters. These were inherited by the KX2 as well.) > > Wayne > N6KR > > > >> On May 29, 2016, at 8:50 PM, D Howard wrote: >> >> Lyle >> Such data would be very beneficial. >> And result in more KX2 sales - ha if that could be handled!! >> Note that Wayne just posted that a temp comp procedure will be posted. >> Dan VA3MA >> >>> On May 29, 2016, at 11:45 PM, Lyle wrote: >>> >>> The local oscillator design of the KX2 is very different from the KX3, as are the thermal isolation of the oscillator from the PA and the high current paths in the radio. There is as yet no field temperature compensation procedure available for the KX2 nor is it clear that one is needed. At least one KX2 field tester operated JT65 successfully with the KX2. >>> >>> There are enough KX2 radios in the field now that it should be a simple matter for an owner to measure the stability of the radio in this mode and report the results to the group to satisfy the curious... >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Lyle KK7P (on "vacation") >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On May 29, 2016, at 8:14 PM, Dan - VA3MA wrote: >>>> >>>> Luke >>>> Thanks - just what I needed to know! >>>> Have you tried JT9 ? >>>> Perhaps some sort of heatsink/handles added to the case might help?? >>>> 73 >>>> Dan VA3MA >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2016-05-29, at 22:37, Luke wrote: >>>> >>>> Hmm, not sure why it cut out my message. Here's what I wrote: >>>> >>>> I've used my KX2 on WSPR and JT65 and it appears to be plenty stable. I used to have a KX3 and sold it because it wouldn't decode WSPR between transmit cycles due to excessive drift. I've kept the KX2 to <5 watts because the right sideplate gets very hot with the high duty cycle. >>>> >>>> I've actually just been sitting here running JT65 @ 10 watts when I got your email, and it is doing pretty well. I had 3 back to back QSO's and on the last transmission the PA Temp got up to 47C (~117F) which doesn't seem too bad. As it cools off there is no drifting or slanting of signals on the waterfall either. I think the 1 minute on/off duty cycle of JT65 is very doable with the KX2, and WSPR might be pushing it. The other night the sideplate got quite hot running WSPR at 5 watts. >>>> >>>> Luke >>>> AD0KI >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Dan - VA3MA >>>> To: Luke >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 8:12 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? >>>> >>>> Luke >>>> No content???? >>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2016, at 8:51 PM, Luke via Elecraft wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>>> >>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>>> Message delivered to va3ma at me.com >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to kk7p4dsp at gmail.com >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com > From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Mon May 30 08:10:34 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 13:10:34 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: <687293BB-D71E-4442-AF02-E889649FD9E2@me.com> References: <815270.21656.bm@smtp108.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <25FC4A29-8499-41FD-87CA-9513AD738326@me.com> <1374391916.1383641.1464575843650.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1D8D3846-5F75-4CD2-AD11-BFDF8E3687C5@me.com> <90372305.1342351.1464578455894.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <170F1FA1-776F-4B06-92E6-A6231EF373F0@me.com> <29695946-EF26-4340-8CC8-F56F76A2A8DA@yahoo.co.uk> <687293BB-D71E-4442-AF02-E889649FD9E2@me.com> Message-ID: <41580778-DF12-42E9-825C-505664F8A08D@yahoo.co.uk> Fair enough, I am very happy with my KX3, a third party heatsink made it work for me on digital modes at the power I need. I mainly use it on 144 MHz currently with an external transverter. I actually enjoyed doing the temperature compensation procedure, it was fun. The 817 is a nice all in one rugged box, however you can't compare the ergonomics or receive performance with the KX3. Compromises have been made in the KX3 to make it small as a trail radio, a much bigger heatsink would not have been appreciated by hikers. They did upgrade the heatsink (a bit) in later models however. The KX2 uses the si5351 instead of the si570 synth, so in theory could use an external high stability reference. I prefer some of the features in the KX3 that the KX2 doesn't have, and like the larger size, AM FM, 50 MHz, PX3 option, internal 4m transverter option. So for me the choice remains the KX3. Good to have a choice though. The new internal battery pack is about the only thing in the KX2 that I wish the KX3 had. 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 30 May 2016, at 12:50, D Howard wrote: > > David > I thought at the price I paid for the KX3 I shouldn't have to do the compensation nor run the KX3 at such reduced power once compensated. My trusty old FT817 worked fine. > I also assumed Elecraft would address the issue with an updated KX3 -ie an 'KX3s' at some point. > So I sold it awaiting the 'upgrade' which turned out to be the KX2 ! > Which is far more stable out of the box. > I'm happy to now order a KX2! > 73/72 > Dan VA3MA > >> On May 30, 2016, at 4:01 AM, David Anderson wrote: >> >> Dan , >> >> I am surprised that you couldn't get WSJT to go with your KX3 and had to sell it. >> >> I am using my KX3 (note not a KX2) on WSJT on 144 MHz EME JT65b. I did however do the extended temperature VFO compensation first and that perhaps is a key requirement. The KX3 was actually more stable than my original 144 MHz transverter's TCXO, which I had to replace with a better TCXO to get the transmit drift to satisfactory levels. >> >> >> 73 from David GM4JJJ >> >>> On 30 May 2016, at 04:45, D Howard wrote: >>> >>> Luke >>> I too sold my KX3 for the same reason- no WSJT. >>> Happy to see KX2 capable with care >>> Dan >>> >>>> On May 29, 2016, at 11:20 PM, Luke wrote: >>>> >>>> I just tried JT9 actually and had no problems. If you head over to PSKReporter and type in my call sign you can see how it's been working for me this evening. It seems to heat up a little faster using JT9, but it's still managable. I don't mind taking a few minutes between QSO's to let things cool off. From my understanding Gemsproducts.com already has KX2 side handles in the works and I will definitely pick some up and see how they work. I can only imagine that any more metal on the side to pick up some extra heat will only be a good thing. >>>> >>>> Luke >>>> AD0KI >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Dan - VA3MA >>>> To: Luke >>>> Cc: Elecraft >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 9:14 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? >>>> >>>> Luke >>>> Thanks - just what I needed to know! >>>> Have you tried JT9 ? >>>> Perhaps some sort of heatsink/handles added to the case might help?? >>>> 73 >>>> Dan VA3MA >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2016-05-29, at 22:37, Luke wrote: >>>> >>>> Hmm, not sure why it cut out my message. Here's what I wrote: >>>> >>>> I've used my KX2 on WSPR and JT65 and it appears to be plenty stable. I used to have a KX3 and sold it because it wouldn't decode WSPR between transmit cycles due to excessive drift. I've kept the KX2 to <5 watts because the right sideplate gets very hot with the high duty cycle. >>>> >>>> I've actually just been sitting here running JT65 @ 10 watts when I got your email, and it is doing pretty well. I had 3 back to back QSO's and on the last transmission the PA Temp got up to 47C (~117F) which doesn't seem too bad. As it cools off there is no drifting or slanting of signals on the waterfall either. I think the 1 minute on/off duty cycle of JT65 is very doable with the KX2, and WSPR might be pushing it. The other night the sideplate got quite hot running WSPR at 5 watts. >>>> >>>> Luke >>>> AD0KI >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Dan - VA3MA >>>> To: Luke >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 8:12 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? >>>> >>>> Luke >>>> No content???? >>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2016, at 8:51 PM, Luke via Elecraft wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>>> >>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>>> Message delivered to va3ma at me.com >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk >> From lists at subich.com Mon May 30 08:19:57 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 08:19:57 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and Microham keyer II In-Reply-To: <8894A8EA6730463B9A02C69CFEEA3583@Laptop> References: <8894A8EA6730463B9A02C69CFEEA3583@Laptop> Message-ID: <64c68370-4088-e117-9751-1c35e30ff6ea@subich.com> > Using Airlink Express (or any other digital program) I can get the > PTT LED on the Microham to come on but it doesnt bring the k3 into > tx. *Which PTT LED?* There are two PTT LEDs on microKEYER II (PTT1 which is the mic PTT and PTT2 which is the ACC jack PTT) and one on the K3. As documented in the microKEYER II Users Manual and the configuration examples for several popular software packages, you should configure your digital software to generate PTT by raising the RTS line on a virtual serial port. In addition, Router/MK II should generally be configured to assert PTT2 when transmitting digital modes. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/30/2016 3:25 AM, Ross wrote: > > Advice please, I have the Microham working on receive, but I cannot get the transmission side going for digital modes. > Using Airlink Express (or any other digital program) I can get the PTT LED on the Microham to come on > but it doesnt bring the k3 into tx. > I have plugged the microham into the ACC socket, to try to get the K3 to transmit, but that doesn?t work. > I have used the setup given in the Microham manual, so far no luck. > Ideas please as to what I am missing. > Thanks > Roass > ZL1WN > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to lists at subich.com > From va3ma at me.com Mon May 30 08:22:11 2016 From: va3ma at me.com (D Howard) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 08:22:11 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: <41580778-DF12-42E9-825C-505664F8A08D@yahoo.co.uk> References: <815270.21656.bm@smtp108.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <25FC4A29-8499-41FD-87CA-9513AD738326@me.com> <1374391916.1383641.1464575843650.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1D8D3846-5F75-4CD2-AD11-BFDF8E3687C5@me.com> <90372305.1342351.1464578455894.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <170F1FA1-776F-4B06-92E6-A6231EF373F0@me.com> <29695946-EF26-4340-8CC8-F56F76A2A8DA@yahoo.co.uk> <687293BB-D71E-4442-AF02-E889649FD9E2@me.com> <41580778-DF12-42E9-825C-505664F8A08D@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: David Can't agree more with what you say about the KX3 ! The KX3 is a superb piece of engineering In my circumstances as apartment dweller with very limited antenna options - WSJT modes allow me to still operate and make QSO's - thanks Joe Taylor! In other circumstances there wouldn't be an issue I envy your EME escapades! Enjoy! Dan VA3MA > On May 30, 2016, at 8:10 AM, David Anderson wrote: > > Fair enough, I am very happy with my KX3, a third party heatsink made it work for me on digital modes at the power I need. I mainly use it on 144 MHz currently with an external transverter. I actually enjoyed doing the temperature compensation procedure, it was fun. > > The 817 is a nice all in one rugged box, however you can't compare the ergonomics or receive performance with the KX3. > > Compromises have been made in the KX3 to make it small as a trail radio, a much bigger heatsink would not have been appreciated by hikers. They did upgrade the heatsink (a bit) in later models however. The KX2 uses the si5351 instead of the si570 synth, so in theory could use an external high stability reference. > > I prefer some of the features in the KX3 that the KX2 doesn't have, and like the larger size, AM FM, 50 MHz, PX3 option, internal 4m transverter option. So for me the choice remains the KX3. Good to have a choice though. The new internal battery pack is about the only thing in the KX2 that I wish the KX3 had. > > 73 from David GM4JJJ > >> On 30 May 2016, at 12:50, D Howard wrote: >> >> David >> I thought at the price I paid for the KX3 I shouldn't have to do the compensation nor run the KX3 at such reduced power once compensated. My trusty old FT817 worked fine. >> I also assumed Elecraft would address the issue with an updated KX3 -ie an 'KX3s' at some point. >> So I sold it awaiting the 'upgrade' which turned out to be the KX2 ! >> Which is far more stable out of the box. >> I'm happy to now order a KX2! >> 73/72 >> Dan VA3MA >> >>> On May 30, 2016, at 4:01 AM, David Anderson wrote: >>> >>> Dan , >>> >>> I am surprised that you couldn't get WSJT to go with your KX3 and had to sell it. >>> >>> I am using my KX3 (note not a KX2) on WSJT on 144 MHz EME JT65b. I did however do the extended temperature VFO compensation first and that perhaps is a key requirement. The KX3 was actually more stable than my original 144 MHz transverter's TCXO, which I had to replace with a better TCXO to get the transmit drift to satisfactory levels. >>> >>> >>> 73 from David GM4JJJ >>> >>>> On 30 May 2016, at 04:45, D Howard wrote: >>>> >>>> Luke >>>> I too sold my KX3 for the same reason- no WSJT. >>>> Happy to see KX2 capable with care >>>> Dan >>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2016, at 11:20 PM, Luke wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I just tried JT9 actually and had no problems. If you head over to PSKReporter and type in my call sign you can see how it's been working for me this evening. It seems to heat up a little faster using JT9, but it's still managable. I don't mind taking a few minutes between QSO's to let things cool off. From my understanding Gemsproducts.com already has KX2 side handles in the works and I will definitely pick some up and see how they work. I can only imagine that any more metal on the side to pick up some extra heat will only be a good thing. >>>>> >>>>> Luke >>>>> AD0KI >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Dan - VA3MA >>>>> To: Luke >>>>> Cc: Elecraft >>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 9:14 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? >>>>> >>>>> Luke >>>>> Thanks - just what I needed to know! >>>>> Have you tried JT9 ? >>>>> Perhaps some sort of heatsink/handles added to the case might help?? >>>>> 73 >>>>> Dan VA3MA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2016-05-29, at 22:37, Luke wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hmm, not sure why it cut out my message. Here's what I wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I've used my KX2 on WSPR and JT65 and it appears to be plenty stable. I used to have a KX3 and sold it because it wouldn't decode WSPR between transmit cycles due to excessive drift. I've kept the KX2 to <5 watts because the right sideplate gets very hot with the high duty cycle. >>>>> >>>>> I've actually just been sitting here running JT65 @ 10 watts when I got your email, and it is doing pretty well. I had 3 back to back QSO's and on the last transmission the PA Temp got up to 47C (~117F) which doesn't seem too bad. As it cools off there is no drifting or slanting of signals on the waterfall either. I think the 1 minute on/off duty cycle of JT65 is very doable with the KX2, and WSPR might be pushing it. The other night the sideplate got quite hot running WSPR at 5 watts. >>>>> >>>>> Luke >>>>> AD0KI >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Dan - VA3MA >>>>> To: Luke >>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 8:12 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? >>>>> >>>>> Luke >>>>> No content???? >>>>> >>>>>> On May 29, 2016, at 8:51 PM, Luke via Elecraft wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>>>> >>>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>>>> Message delivered to va3ma at me.com >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk >>> > From rthorne at rthorne.net Mon May 30 10:26:26 2016 From: rthorne at rthorne.net (Richard Thorne) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 09:26:26 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Two 2.7khz 5 pole Filters Available Message-ID: I upgraded my K3 from the 2.7khz 5 pole filters to the 2.8khz 8 pole filters. I have two 2.7khz filters available. Make me an offer if you need them. Rich - N5ZC From richarddw1945 at yahoo.com Mon May 30 10:45:52 2016 From: richarddw1945 at yahoo.com (richarddw1945 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 14:45:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KRC2 For Sale References: <1528682112.1605653.1464619552774.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1528682112.1605653.1464619552774.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I have a KRC2 band decoder and control kit for sale; asking $80 plus shipping (USA). Am selling the KRC2 because I have 12 mono band antennas (6M - 160M plus 75M NVIS) and the KRC2 will only control 10 (10M - 160M). ?Doing a bit of research (actually blind luck when perusing the Array Solutions web site) I found their Bandmaster III will control 12 antennas, and I picked one up at the Array Solutions booth in Dayton last week. Though the KRC2 will work with several other manufacture's radios, I have only used it with a K3 (and now a K3S). ?I have never had any problems or issues with it; I am the original owner, and it has always been in a smoke free environment. For the K3/K3S (and I think all the Elecraft radios), control is best asserted by using the AuxBus; this requires one wire from the KRC2 connected to pin 2 on the AuxIO connector on the K3/K3S. If interested, please fire off an email to me at either richarddw1945 at yahoo.com or k8ztt at yahoo.com; ?or feel free to call me on the land line (am an ARRL DXCC card checker, and my phone number can be found on the ARRL webpage). Dick, K8ZTT ?? From rodenkirch_llc at msn.com Mon May 30 10:53:30 2016 From: rodenkirch_llc at msn.com (Jim Rodenkirch) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 07:53:30 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: <0648947F-CF8E-4AC3-82B1-87F923723FF5@elecraft.com> References: <15DEDED0-2F16-4799-BF1E-234599A7C2D1@me.com> <90d3a112-442d-7345-f09c-ae5ef1ef8dcc@socal.rr.com> <815270.21656.bm@smtp108.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1D8D3846-5F75-4CD2-AD11-BFDF8E3687C5@me.com> <595A33CB-9339-43DF-9578-BBA030DD668B@me.com> <0648947F-CF8E-4AC3-82B1-87F923723FF5@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <1464620010313-7618230.post@n2.nabble.com> Wayne/et al: I run JT9 and JT65 with my KX3 often on 160 and 80...I had the temperature compensation performed at the factory when I purchased the rig and I utilize a cooling fan when running the JT modes or running a freq during a contest; I loaded Dimension 4 s/w for extra time stability. No heat drift problems here AND I didn't have to get ripped off by those 3rd party folks who market those grossly over-priced replacement heat sync "kits." With what serial # did you start using the new that rev E board? Will it be available for swapout by the fanatical few that need the latest and greatest? Tnx, in advance, for your reply. 71.5/72 de Jim Rodenkirch K9JWV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX2-on-JT65-JT9-tp7618187p7618230.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From rmbayer62 at gmail.com Mon May 30 10:55:51 2016 From: rmbayer62 at gmail.com (Robin Bayer) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 09:55:51 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Rev. E Board Message-ID: What KX3 serial numbers have the new Rev. E board? Rob KA5QQA KX3 K2 From richarddw1945 at yahoo.com Mon May 30 11:37:43 2016 From: richarddw1945 at yahoo.com (richarddw1945 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 15:37:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: KRC2 sold In-Reply-To: <1528682112.1605653.1464619552774.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1528682112.1605653.1464619552774.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1528682112.1605653.1464619552774.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1965804766.1621426.1464622663477.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> The KRC2 I listed earlier today has been sold. Dick, K8ZTT From w2kj at bellsouth.net Mon May 30 12:03:45 2016 From: w2kj at bellsouth.net (Joe W2KJ) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 12:03:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2 Message-ID: Howdy Fellow Elecrafters: As I anxiously wait for my KX2 to arrive I'd like to congratulate Wayne and Eric for hitting this one out of the ball park. I don't believe there is another QRP rig on the market that can compare feature for feature with the new KX2. In any event the KX2 will be my portable field rig for the foreseeable future. Sitting here in my shack I'm trying to visualize just how small the KX2 is......hard to believe!! Hoping to get my new rig before Field Day...that will provide a good "shake-out for the little rig. Things sure have changed since I was a Novice back in '62 (grin)....DX20 and NC190...what changes in technology we have seen in the past 54 years. I'd like to be around for another 54 to see the future tech...but I don't think that is gonna happen (grin). 73, Joe W2KJ I QRP, therefore I am From rodenkirch_llc at msn.com Mon May 30 12:17:15 2016 From: rodenkirch_llc at msn.com (Jim Rodenkirch) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 09:17:15 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1464625035570-7618234.post@n2.nabble.com> Perhaps you meant to emphasize there's no " as small a rig on the market as the KX2," Joe.... I own a KX3 and expect it has more "features" than the KX2 and it's nearly "as portable" as the KX2....looking at a K3S ad believe it has more features as well......agree? Jim R. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/New-KX2-tp7618233p7618234.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From wunder at wunderwood.org Mon May 30 12:40:27 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 09:40:27 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: <687293BB-D71E-4442-AF02-E889649FD9E2@me.com> References: <815270.21656.bm@smtp108.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <25FC4A29-8499-41FD-87CA-9513AD738326@me.com> <1374391916.1383641.1464575843650.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1D8D3846-5F75-4CD2-AD11-BFDF8E3687C5@me.com> <90372305.1342351.1464578455894.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <170F1FA1-776F-4B06-92E6-A6231EF373F0@me.com> <29695946-EF26-4340-8CC8-F56F76A2A8DA@yahoo.co.uk> <687293BB-D71E-4442-AF02-E889649FD9E2@me.com> Message-ID: <5A99F0EB-C50B-4EC8-B3E7-83D6524C5498@wunderwood.org> Elecraft does not do the extended temperature comp because it would add too much to the price of the radio for a feature that only a few people need. I?m surprised when people buy a KX3, then are upset that it performs to its specs instead of performing much better than specified. Both the FT-817 and the KX3 are 1 ppm frequency stability, though the FT-817 is only specified for that at 25? C after a 1 hour warmup. The KX3 specs are for 0-50? C. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On May 30, 2016, at 4:50 AM, D Howard wrote: > > David > I thought at the price I paid for the KX3 I shouldn't have to do the compensation nor run the KX3 at such reduced power once compensated. My trusty old FT817 worked fine. > I also assumed Elecraft would address the issue with an updated KX3 -ie an 'KX3s' at some point. > So I sold it awaiting the 'upgrade' which turned out to be the KX2 ! > Which is far more stable out of the box. > I'm happy to now order a KX2! > 73/72 > Dan VA3MA > >> On May 30, 2016, at 4:01 AM, David Anderson wrote: >> >> Dan , >> >> I am surprised that you couldn't get WSJT to go with your KX3 and had to sell it. >> >> I am using my KX3 (note not a KX2) on WSJT on 144 MHz EME JT65b. I did however do the extended temperature VFO compensation first and that perhaps is a key requirement. The KX3 was actually more stable than my original 144 MHz transverter's TCXO, which I had to replace with a better TCXO to get the transmit drift to satisfactory levels. >> >> >> 73 from David GM4JJJ >> >>> On 30 May 2016, at 04:45, D Howard wrote: >>> >>> Luke >>> I too sold my KX3 for the same reason- no WSJT. >>> Happy to see KX2 capable with care >>> Dan >>> >>>> On May 29, 2016, at 11:20 PM, Luke wrote: >>>> >>>> I just tried JT9 actually and had no problems. If you head over to PSKReporter and type in my call sign you can see how it's been working for me this evening. It seems to heat up a little faster using JT9, but it's still managable. I don't mind taking a few minutes between QSO's to let things cool off. From my understanding Gemsproducts.com already has KX2 side handles in the works and I will definitely pick some up and see how they work. I can only imagine that any more metal on the side to pick up some extra heat will only be a good thing. >>>> >>>> Luke >>>> AD0KI >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Dan - VA3MA >>>> To: Luke >>>> Cc: Elecraft >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 9:14 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? >>>> >>>> Luke >>>> Thanks - just what I needed to know! >>>> Have you tried JT9 ? >>>> Perhaps some sort of heatsink/handles added to the case might help?? >>>> 73 >>>> Dan VA3MA >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2016-05-29, at 22:37, Luke wrote: >>>> >>>> Hmm, not sure why it cut out my message. Here's what I wrote: >>>> >>>> I've used my KX2 on WSPR and JT65 and it appears to be plenty stable. I used to have a KX3 and sold it because it wouldn't decode WSPR between transmit cycles due to excessive drift. I've kept the KX2 to <5 watts because the right sideplate gets very hot with the high duty cycle. >>>> >>>> I've actually just been sitting here running JT65 @ 10 watts when I got your email, and it is doing pretty well. I had 3 back to back QSO's and on the last transmission the PA Temp got up to 47C (~117F) which doesn't seem too bad. As it cools off there is no drifting or slanting of signals on the waterfall either. I think the 1 minute on/off duty cycle of JT65 is very doable with the KX2, and WSPR might be pushing it. The other night the sideplate got quite hot running WSPR at 5 watts. >>>> >>>> Luke >>>> AD0KI >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Dan - VA3MA >>>> To: Luke >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 8:12 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? >>>> >>>> Luke >>>> No content???? >>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2016, at 8:51 PM, Luke via Elecraft wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>>> >>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>>> Message delivered to va3ma at me.com >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Mon May 30 13:24:23 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 10:24:23 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: <687293BB-D71E-4442-AF02-E889649FD9E2@me.com> References: <815270.21656.bm@smtp108.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <25FC4A29-8499-41FD-87CA-9513AD738326@me.com> <1374391916.1383641.1464575843650.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1D8D3846-5F75-4CD2-AD11-BFDF8E3687C5@me.com> <90372305.1342351.1464578455894.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <170F1FA1-776F-4B06-92E6-A6231EF373F0@me.com> <29695946-EF26-4340-8CC8-F56F76A2A8DA@yahoo.co.uk> <687293BB-D71E-4442-AF02-E889649FD9E2@me.com> Message-ID: <613ced4e-e7fe-17ac-33e2-669e0d2efa52@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Mon,5/30/2016 4:50 AM, D Howard wrote: > I thought at the price I paid for the KX3 I shouldn't have to do the compensation nor run the KX3 at such reduced power once compensated. My trusty old FT817 worked fine. That's your problem, not Elecraft's. The KX3 was specifically designed as a backpacking radio that could also do other things. AFAIK, neither Wayne nor Eric is a JT65 op or a VHF op, so they didn't think of the thermal issue until users brought it up. When they did, Elecraft developed the temperature compensation as a solution and also improved the heat sink. I did both to my KX3. It took about three hours, half of which was reading the instructions and cooling the radio for the second part of the procedure. Reading ARRL Lab test reports clearly shows that Your "trusty old FT817" isn't one-tenth the radio that the KX3 is. The KX3 is FAR cleaner on TX and FAR superior on RX. But the KX3 is fundamentally an HF + 6M radio, not a 2M radio. A few weeks ago, we used a KX3 with the KXPA100 and PX3 for a very successful mobile run in the 7th Area QSO Party. Slide #8 in k9yc.com/7QP.pdf shows the setup that W6GJB put together. W6GJB drove while W6JTI operated, riding shotgun. The KXPA100 is on the floor of the back seat. 73, Jim K9YC From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Mon May 30 14:05:12 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 10:05:12 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? Message-ID: <201605301805.u4UI5CZH015658@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> I ran extensive frequency drift measurements on the KX3 in 2014, purchasing an aftermarket heat sink for my KX3. After running the temperature compensation procedure I reported: I re-ran the JT65 testing sequences to measure frequency drift after temperature compensation was done. Initial sequence shows the most drift with a peak +13 Hz upwards drift in the first sequence. The remainder Showed under 10-Hz with the delta trending to +5 Hz in later sequences. Testing was done on 50-MHz which would show the most drift; I did not check for HF drift which one would expect to be proportionally less. http://www.kl7uw.com/KX3.htm Data is displayed on some charts accessible by link from main page. I also acquired the heat sink produced by Elecraft but have not tried it considering the one I previously purchased has much more thermal mass. Drift before adding heat sink and performing Temp comp. was 103-Hz accumulated over 20-min test of running key-down in CW for 50-seconds followed by 70-seconds in Rx, repeating ten times. I use a professional frequency counter usable to 26-GHz whose TCXO appears stabile against a Rubidium reference. I have not run the KX3 on JT65 very much (a little on 6m a couple years ago); haven't built IQ interface. I have a K3 with EXREF running 2m-eme and 23cm-eme with transverters so the KX3 gets used for other kinds of use. I have the 2M board installed. Haven't checked drift on 2m with it. Reading the mail to see what will be reported for the KX2. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From rheming1 at sbcglobal.net Mon May 30 14:37:07 2016 From: rheming1 at sbcglobal.net (Richard W Hemingway) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 18:37:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] It works! References: <188091416.1340199.1464633427537.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <188091416.1340199.1464633427537.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks to everyone wh o wroke and helped me. ?It is TX'ing again. ?I had TX set on the SL too low, turned it ?up and Bingo! Thanks again to everyone. Dcik N5XRD From va3ma at me.com Mon May 30 15:09:00 2016 From: va3ma at me.com (Dan - VA3MA) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 15:09:00 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: <613ced4e-e7fe-17ac-33e2-669e0d2efa52@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <815270.21656.bm@smtp108.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <25FC4A29-8499-41FD-87CA-9513AD738326@me.com> <1374391916.1383641.1464575843650.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1D8D3846-5F75-4CD2-AD11-BFDF8E3687C5@me.com> <90372305.1342351.1464578455894.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <170F1FA1-776F-4B06-92E6-A6231EF373F0@me.com> <29695946-EF26-4340-8CC8-F56F76A2A8DA@yahoo.co.uk> <687293BB-D71E-4442-AF02-E889649FD9E2@me.com> <613ced4e-e7fe-17ac-33e2-669e0d2efa52@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <2D3055EB-1BC6-468F-A3CC-977179949165@me.com> Jim When one makes it personal I'm done Have a happy day and enjoy ham radio 72 > On May 30, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > >> On Mon,5/30/2016 4:50 AM, D Howard wrote: >> I thought at the price I paid for the KX3 I shouldn't have to do the compensation nor run the KX3 at such reduced power once compensated. My trusty old FT817 worked fine. > > That's your problem, not Elecraft's. The KX3 was specifically designed as a backpacking radio that could also do other things. AFAIK, neither Wayne nor Eric is a JT65 op or a VHF op, so they didn't think of the thermal issue until users brought it up. When they did, Elecraft developed the temperature compensation as a solution and also improved the heat sink. I did both to my KX3. It took about three hours, half of which was reading the instructions and cooling the radio for the second part of the procedure. > > Reading ARRL Lab test reports clearly shows that Your "trusty old FT817" isn't one-tenth the radio that the KX3 is. The KX3 is FAR cleaner on TX and FAR superior on RX. But the KX3 is fundamentally an HF + 6M radio, not a 2M radio. A few weeks ago, we used a KX3 with the KXPA100 and PX3 for a very successful mobile run in the 7th Area QSO Party. Slide #8 in k9yc.com/7QP.pdf shows the setup that W6GJB put together. W6GJB drove while W6JTI operated, riding shotgun. The KXPA100 is on the floor of the back seat. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to va3ma at me.com From va3ma at me.com Mon May 30 15:12:52 2016 From: va3ma at me.com (Dan - VA3MA) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 15:12:52 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: <201605301805.u4UI5CZH015658@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201605301805.u4UI5CZH015658@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: Edward Your test results are much appreciated! Any very informative! Thank you kind sir Would be interesting to be able to compare a newer KX3 with rev E boards to your past test results 73 Dan > On May 30, 2016, at 2:05 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: > > I ran extensive frequency drift measurements on the KX3 in 2014, purchasing an aftermarket heat sink for my KX3. After running the temperature compensation procedure I reported: > > I re-ran the JT65 testing sequences to measure frequency drift after temperature compensation was done. > Initial sequence shows the most drift with a peak +13 Hz upwards drift in the first sequence. The remainder > Showed under 10-Hz with the delta trending to +5 Hz in later sequences. > > Testing was done on 50-MHz which would show the most drift; I did not check for HF drift which one would expect to be proportionally less. > > http://www.kl7uw.com/KX3.htm > > Data is displayed on some charts accessible by link from main page. > > I also acquired the heat sink produced by Elecraft but have not tried it considering the one I previously purchased has much more thermal mass. Drift before adding heat sink and performing Temp comp. was 103-Hz accumulated over 20-min test of running key-down in CW for 50-seconds followed by 70-seconds in Rx, repeating ten times. > > I use a professional frequency counter usable to 26-GHz whose TCXO appears stabile against a Rubidium reference. > > I have not run the KX3 on JT65 very much (a little on 6m a couple years ago); haven't built IQ interface. I have a K3 with EXREF running 2m-eme and 23cm-eme with transverters so the KX3 gets used for other kinds of use. I have the 2M board installed. Haven't checked drift on 2m with it. > > Reading the mail to see what will be reported for the KX2. > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > "Kits made by KL7UW" > Dubus Mag business: > dubususa at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to va3ma at me.com From rbiggar at ihug.co.nz Mon May 30 15:24:42 2016 From: rbiggar at ihug.co.nz (Ross) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 07:24:42 +1200 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and Microham keyer II In-Reply-To: <64c68370-4088-e117-9751-1c35e30ff6ea@subich.com> References: <8894A8EA6730463B9A02C69CFEEA3583@Laptop> <64c68370-4088-e117-9751-1c35e30ff6ea@subich.com> Message-ID: <9F1D501B3B914600A21358B5B7C0B519@Laptop> Thanks for the reply Joe,, I didn't explain very well. I am trying to work with Airlink express, I have com6 set on PTT2 on the router, (com6 shows on the router as open). PTT1 is none (no com port) And com6 for RTS on Airlink setup. Going to transmit a red triangle comes up on com6, but only PTT1 LED comes on. Ideas please. Thanks Ross ps: at least the incoming audio is working ok -----Original Message----- From: Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 12:19 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Microham keyer II > Using Airlink Express (or any other digital program) I can get the > PTT LED on the Microham to come on but it doesnt bring the k3 into > tx. *Which PTT LED?* There are two PTT LEDs on microKEYER II (PTT1 which is the mic PTT and PTT2 which is the ACC jack PTT) and one on the K3. As documented in the microKEYER II Users Manual and the configuration examples for several popular software packages, you should configure your digital software to generate PTT by raising the RTS line on a virtual serial port. In addition, Router/MK II should generally be configured to assert PTT2 when transmitting digital modes. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/30/2016 3:25 AM, Ross wrote: > > Advice please, I have the Microham working on receive, but I cannot get > the transmission side going for digital modes. > Using Airlink Express (or any other digital program) I can get the PTT LED > on the Microham to come on > but it doesnt bring the k3 into tx. > I have plugged the microham into the ACC socket, to try to get the K3 to > transmit, but that doesn?t work. > I have used the setup given in the Microham manual, so far no luck. > Ideas please as to what I am missing. > Thanks > Roass > ZL1WN > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to lists at subich.com > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rbiggar at ihug.co.nz From sales at elecraft.com Mon May 30 16:57:49 2016 From: sales at elecraft.com (Lisa Jones - Elecraft Sales) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 13:57:49 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Booth Help at SeaPac and Hamcom Message-ID: <111e7a5b-7c46-4928-bfdf-35f30b5cee9c@elecraft.com> Elecraft is looking for some booth help for the following two upcoming shoes: *SeaPac in Seaside Oregon: June 4th and 5th. ** * *HamCom in Irving Texas June 10th and 11th. * Any time you are able to give us will be great, hopefully 2 hours at a time if possible. Saturday mornings are the busiest and when help is most needed. However we are happy to see you at any time! If you will be available for any period of time to help answer customer questions on any of our products that you are familiar with please contact /*madelyln at elecraft.com directly*/ and let her know approximately when you will be there. Thank you for your consideration and we look forward to seeing you at either SeaPac of Hamcom! Remember: Contact Madelyn directly: madelyn at elecraft.com. -- Lisa Jones Elecraft, Inc. (831) 763-4211 From n7tb at comcast.net Mon May 30 17:11:41 2016 From: n7tb at comcast.net (Terry Brown) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 21:11:41 -0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Can't get KXPA100 to turn on when PX3 is attached after SOTA trip. Message-ID: <00b601d1bab7$dcf9b970$96ed2c50$@comcast.net> I disconnected my PX3 and KX3 from my KXPA100 to take on a SOTA activation. When I returned I connected everything as it was before, and when I try to turn on the KXPA100 from the KX3 "PA Mode" to on, the amp will not turn on, and after a few seconds the PA Mode goes to off. I disconnect the PX3 from the circuit and connect the KX3 to the KXPA100 directly and everything works as normal. I have checked the continuity of the connecting cables from the PX3 and KX3 and there are no short or open circuits. I have triple checked my cable connections to make sure they are connected properly and have pushed in on the plugs to make sure they are firmly seated. The PX3 is showing properly one every band, and appears to be working normally. The KX3 seems to be working fine as well, I just can't turn on the KPXA100. Any suggestions would be really helpful. Thanks! 73's, Terry, N7TB From matt.vk2rq at gmail.com Mon May 30 17:17:45 2016 From: matt.vk2rq at gmail.com (Matt Maguire) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 21:17:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Don't worry Joe, the FT817 fanboys will just add 160m and 6m on top of 2m/70cm to the list of bands that the KX2 doesn't support :-) ?Meanwhile the rest of us will be on air having fun making contacts with our fine easy-to-use Elecraft gear;-) 73, Matt VK2RQ On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 9:04 AM -0700, "Joe W2KJ" wrote: Howdy Fellow Elecrafters: As I anxiously wait for my KX2 to arrive I'd like to congratulate Wayne and Eric for hitting this one out of the ball park. I don't believe there is another QRP rig on the market that can compare feature for feature with the new KX2. In any event the KX2 will be my portable field rig for the foreseeable future. Sitting here in my shack I'm trying to visualize just how small the KX2 is......hard to believe!! Hoping to get my new rig before Field Day...that will provide a good "shake-out for the little rig. Things sure have changed since I was a Novice back in '62 (grin)....DX20 and NC190...what changes in technology we have seen in the past 54 years. I'd like to be around for another 54 to see the future tech...but I don't think that is gonna happen (grin). 73, Joe W2KJ I QRP, therefore I am ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to matt.vk2rq at gmail.com From w5un at wt.net Mon May 30 17:25:30 2016 From: w5un at wt.net (Dave Blaschke, w5un) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 21:25:30 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] No LINE OUT Message-ID: My K3 is not putting anything out on the rear panel LINE OUT connector. I've gone through the CONFIG and Menu and changed things, including upping the output number, while listening on earbuds plugged to the LINE OUT, but an hearing nothing. Am I missing some config item? Dave, W5UN From lists at subich.com Mon May 30 17:41:08 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 17:41:08 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] No LINE OUT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <686aa3cc-5376-eb65-8f8e-15f0c873d60f@subich.com> > I've gone through the CONFIG and Menu and changed things, including > upping the output number, while listening on earbuds plugged to the > LINE OUT, but an hearing nothing. Try powered (amplified) speakers ... the Line Out may not have enough "oomph" to drive ear buds. > Am I missing some config item? Probably not. I'd pull the Audio I/O board (jack board) and check to see if L3 (RF choke in the Line Common) is open. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/30/2016 5:25 PM, Dave Blaschke, w5un wrote: > My K3 is not putting anything out on the rear panel LINE OUT connector. > I've gone through the CONFIG and Menu and changed things, including > upping the output number, while listening on earbuds plugged to the > LINE OUT, but an hearing nothing. Am I missing some config item? > > Dave, W5UN > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > From ppauly at gmail.com Mon May 30 18:48:03 2016 From: ppauly at gmail.com (Peter Pauly) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 18:48:03 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Another cool KX2 video from the "Goat" Message-ID: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ORBxLV72n4 From rodenkirch_llc at msn.com Mon May 30 19:27:05 2016 From: rodenkirch_llc at msn.com (Jim Rodenkirch) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 16:27:05 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Suggested KX3 "upgrade" Message-ID: <1464650825603-7618248.post@n2.nabble.com> Wayne/Eric: I do lots of "runs" during contests and after completing a CQ run and waiting for the "next cycle" I find, often, when a station returns my CQ, if I hit a dit key to cancel the "beacon mode," the calling station stops sending (he heard my dit and 'pauses'). Could sumpin' be done, firmware wise, to let us hit the the key without sending the dit or dah? I'm reluctant to push the msg button just to stop the beacon...seems like I'd be stressing that button and it's inconvenient to access those buttons while"in the fray" of a contest. Thoughts??? 72 de Jim R. K9JWV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Suggested-KX3-upgrade-tp7618248.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From w1pdi at aol.com Mon May 30 19:38:34 2016 From: w1pdi at aol.com (TFJM) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 16:38:34 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 & Loop Antennas Message-ID: <1464651514522-7618249.post@n2.nabble.com> Has anyone had much success using either an Alex Loop or Chameleon P Loop antenna with their KX3? I have few antenna options in an apartment situation and throwing a 25 foot long wire into a nearby tree has not worked for me. Even tried loading up a 33 foot long aluminum balcony railing with no luck. Thanks, Tom W1PDI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-Loop-Antennas-tp7618249.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From r.tristani at gmail.com Mon May 30 19:43:01 2016 From: r.tristani at gmail.com (Ramon Tristani) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 19:43:01 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 & Loop Antennas In-Reply-To: <1464651514522-7618249.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1464651514522-7618249.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: I have tried the MFJ 1788 MagLoop and the TW2010. Both are good choices. The Magloop is good for up to a bit more than 100 watts. The TW2010 is better made and easier to operate and will handle a full gallon. Both are portable but the TW2010 is light and rugged. Ram?n E. Tristani Sr. NQ9V r.tristani at gmail.com https://www.flickr.com/photos/nq9v/ www.tristaniministries.org www.tristaniphotography.com > On May 30, 2016, at 19:38, TFJM via Elecraft wrote: > > Has anyone had much success using either an Alex Loop or Chameleon P Loop > antenna with their KX3? I have few antenna options in an apartment situation > and throwing a 25 foot long wire into a nearby tree has not worked for me. > Even tried loading up a 33 foot long aluminum balcony railing with no luck. > > Thanks, > > Tom W1PDI > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-Loop-Antennas-tp7618249.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to r.tristani at gmail.com From jbammi at mac.com Mon May 30 19:49:53 2016 From: jbammi at mac.com (JWAHAR BAMMI) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 23:49:53 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Elecraft] Narrow Digital Modes ?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've been successfully running JT-65, WSPR this weekend on my KX2?@?2.6 Watts and monitoring the PA temp on the VFO B display. The ambient temp in the shack was about 21C, at the end of the WSPR?Tx?cycles the PA Temp gets up to about 58C. (20m, 30m, 40m frequency does not seem to matter). Look for kc1ccr on WSPRnet. Rant: ?I want to go /p or /m QRP digital modes. I don't particularly mind hauling my phone/tablet/Macbook air around /p /m or /pm.?Not a fan of CW, and I am definitely not gen-x. PA Engineering/Howie make?us a KX2?heatsink already! 73 de kc1ccr Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 19:28:18 -0400 From: Dan - VA3MA To: Lyle Johnson Cc: "Elecraft at mailman.qth.net" , ?Terry ?Bennett Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Narrow Digital Modes ?? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lyle This is very encouraging ! My friend Terry VE3EGA is awaiting delivery of his KX2 I think he will try using it onJT9 And let me know... HOPE SO On 2016-05-24, at 13:18, Lyle Johnson wrote: I am uncertain why the OP claims the KX2 is not usable on JT65. One of the KX2 field testers operated the radio on that mode without issues and reported the same in an eham review of the KX2. In fact, we paid great attention to frequency stability in the KX2 design, applying lessons learned from the KX3. The KX2 Tx power is more limited than in the KX3. But JT65 is a weak signal mode :-) From mike at mdodd.com Mon May 30 20:05:34 2016 From: mike at mdodd.com (Mike Dodd) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 20:05:34 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Suggested KX3 "upgrade" In-Reply-To: <1464650825603-7618248.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1464650825603-7618248.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <574CD54E.7070805@mdodd.com> On 5/30/2016 7:27 PM, Jim Rodenkirch wrote: > Wayne/Eric: I do lots of "runs" during contests and after completing a CQ run > and waiting for the "next cycle" I find, often, when a station returns my > CQ, if I hit a dit key to cancel the "beacon mode," the calling station > stops sending (he heard my dit and 'pauses'). > > Could sumpin' be done, firmware wise, to let us hit the the key without > sending the dit or dah? > > I'm reluctant to push the msg button just to stop the beacon...seems like > I'd be stressing that button and it's inconvenient to access those buttons > while"in the fray" of a contest. How do you handle sending serial numbers that change with each QSO? Those can't be programmed into a KX3 memory. If you use the N1MM logger (or any contest logger), you can program all messages into function keys, then tap the ESC key to cancel any of them. Also, typing the first character of the other station's call sign also immediately interrupts the CQ; you don't even need to hit ESC. N1MM's function keys automatically handle serial numbers. I always put my CW contest messages into N1MM, not in the KX3. -- 73, Mike N4CF Louisa County, VA USA Elecraft K3s/100 Carolina Windom up 45' http://n4cf.mdodd.com From k6dgw at foothill.net Mon May 30 20:13:26 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 17:13:26 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 & Loop Antennas In-Reply-To: <1464651514522-7618249.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1464651514522-7618249.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <8f92546b-ca51-9f86-110c-9cfa4b5a032c@foothill.net> I replaced my Buddipole with an Alex and use it a lot in the field ... understand that as I accumulate birthdays, "field" more and more means a drive-to a park or friendly hill. It works better than the BP ever did, I can set it up in 5 min, it is fairly insensitive to ground and surrounding objects, including me. I sit under it so I can reach the knob. It's a resonant transformer. To be effective, it must be EXACTLY resonant. That's a bit touchy on 30 and 40. You MUST bypass the ATU. "Getting close" with the knob and then letting the ATU do it's matching job yields a fairly pricey dummy load. On 40, the BW of the Alex isn't much more than a SSB signal. Beware: Small mag loops can involve some huge circulating currents and RF voltages. The Alex is OK to 10W. Google "magnetic loop calculator" for a very cool little calculator. Try it with 1 KW, it will really surprise you. And sadly, I don't think a Reynolds Wrap hat will protect you if you're close. Small mag loops are bi-directional in the plane of the loop but it is very broad. Orthogonal to the loop plane, there are two very sharp, deep nulls, sometimes useful to eliminate noise from a point source or QRM. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org On 5/30/2016 4:38 PM, TFJM via Elecraft wrote: > Has anyone had much success using either an Alex Loop or Chameleon P Loop > antenna with their KX3? I have few antenna options in an apartment situation > and throwing a 25 foot long wire into a nearby tree has not worked for me. > Even tried loading up a 33 foot long aluminum balcony railing with no luck. > > Thanks, > Tom W1PDI From w4jz at bellsouth.net Mon May 30 20:26:06 2016 From: w4jz at bellsouth.net (Reed) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 19:26:06 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 And Loop Antennas Message-ID: Hi Tom, Yes, I have had good success with the Alex Loop on PSK-31 using 3 to 5 watts out from a high rise condo while on vacation. Bands I used was 20 & 17 meters. I have not had much luck on SSB or CW no matter what antenna I used because of too much steel, concrete & man made noise. The loop cuts out a lot of the noise, but PSK just seems to work so many more contacts than on phone or CW. If your apartment has a lot of wood you might be able to do well on other modes, but little Alex Loop does work well. MFJ also makes one, but you have to change the loop depending on which band you are on. Also have one of those too, but like the Alex Loop better for traveling. 73, Reed W4JZ From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Mon May 30 20:29:58 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 17:29:58 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 on JT65 & JT9 ?? In-Reply-To: <2D3055EB-1BC6-468F-A3CC-977179949165@me.com> References: <815270.21656.bm@smtp108.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <25FC4A29-8499-41FD-87CA-9513AD738326@me.com> <1374391916.1383641.1464575843650.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1D8D3846-5F75-4CD2-AD11-BFDF8E3687C5@me.com> <90372305.1342351.1464578455894.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <170F1FA1-776F-4B06-92E6-A6231EF373F0@me.com> <29695946-EF26-4340-8CC8-F56F76A2A8DA@yahoo.co.uk> <687293BB-D71E-4442-AF02-E889649FD9E2@me.com> <613ced4e-e7fe-17ac-33e2-669e0d2efa52@audiosystemsgroup.com> <2D3055EB-1BC6-468F-A3CC-977179949165@me.com> Message-ID: <2f105929-78dd-5e17-07c3-d1b3f7b81f7f@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Mon,5/30/2016 12:09 PM, Dan - VA3MA wrote: > When one makes it personal Dan, My apology if you were offended. Perhaps you're new to Elecraft. Many of us began buying their radios when they only sold kits, and everyone built their own. Indeed, many of us OTs built Heathkits. Elecraft buyers were not buying appliances,we were accustomed to working on our radios, and many builders developed mods that were later adopted and sold by Elecraft. A major reason that Elecraft products are as good as they are is that the owners are engineers, and they don't let their egos get in the way of taking input from their customers. The K3 was the first Elecraft radio sold factory-built, and it seems to have attracted buyers with different expectations. My post was intended to help you realize that Elecraft is a company that does that. But it takes time to do analyze the problem, do the design work, and put those changes into production. With their competitors, you MUST buy a whole new radio to get the upgrade. It took Yaesu three product cycles (about ten years) to fix the awful key clicks in their flagship radio, the FT1000MP. With Elecraft, you can often buy only the upgrade, or even simply download new firmware. 73, Jim K9YC From w1pdi at aol.com Mon May 30 20:35:25 2016 From: w1pdi at aol.com (TFJM) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 17:35:25 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 & Loop Antennas In-Reply-To: <8f92546b-ca51-9f86-110c-9cfa4b5a032c@foothill.net> References: <1464651514522-7618249.post@n2.nabble.com> <8f92546b-ca51-9f86-110c-9cfa4b5a032c@foothill.net> Message-ID: <9A3E138B-C236-4C66-A2A3-9DE925BE9C79@aol.com> Thanks for the feedback Fred. So I'll have to turn off the internal KX3 ATU? How do I do that? Also have you seen or read anything on the Chameleon F loop? I saw a few things on You Tube. Similar to the Alex Loop. Doesn't the Alex Loop tune itself? 73 Tom W1PDI Sent from my iPhone > On May 30, 2016, at 8:15 PM, k6dgw [via Elecraft] wrote: > > I replaced my Buddipole with an Alex and use it a lot in the field ... > understand that as I accumulate birthdays, "field" more and more means a > drive-to a park or friendly hill. It works better than the BP ever did, > I can set it up in 5 min, it is fairly insensitive to ground and > surrounding objects, including me. I sit under it so I can reach the knob. > > It's a resonant transformer. To be effective, it must be EXACTLY > resonant. That's a bit touchy on 30 and 40. You MUST bypass the ATU. > "Getting close" with the knob and then letting the ATU do it's matching > job yields a fairly pricey dummy load. On 40, the BW of the Alex isn't > much more than a SSB signal. > > Beware: Small mag loops can involve some huge circulating currents and > RF voltages. The Alex is OK to 10W. Google "magnetic loop calculator" > for a very cool little calculator. Try it with 1 KW, it will really > surprise you. And sadly, I don't think a Reynolds Wrap hat will protect > you if you're close. > > Small mag loops are bi-directional in the plane of the loop but it is > very broad. Orthogonal to the loop plane, there are two very sharp, > deep nulls, sometimes useful to eliminate noise from a point source or QRM. > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > - Northern California Contest Club > - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 > - www.cqp.org > > On 5/30/2016 4:38 PM, TFJM via Elecraft wrote: > > Has anyone had much success using either an Alex Loop or Chameleon P Loop > > antenna with their KX3? I have few antenna options in an apartment situation > > and throwing a 25 foot long wire into a nearby tree has not worked for me. > > Even tried loading up a 33 foot long aluminum balcony railing with no luck. > > > > Thanks, > > Tom W1PDI > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-Loop-Antennas-tp7618249p7618253.html > To unsubscribe from KX3 & Loop Antennas, click here. > NAML -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-Loop-Antennas-tp7618249p7618256.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ronc at sonic.net Mon May 30 20:36:35 2016 From: ronc at sonic.net (Ron Castro) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 17:36:35 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Power On/Off Message-ID: <014101d1bad4$7cb784d0$76268e70$@sonic.net> I'm setting my K3 up at a remote facility where I can turn the 12 VDC power supply on and off remotely, but if I turn it off, the K3 shuts down and can't be started without using the Remote Power On/Off on pin 8 of the ACC connector. My question: Since I will be using the power supply to turn the radio on and off, can I simply short pin 8 to ground and leave it that way so the radio comes on when the power supply activates? Is there some reason why I should do this differently? Thanks, Ron N6IE From lists at subich.com Mon May 30 20:42:09 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 20:42:09 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and Microham keyer II In-Reply-To: <9F1D501B3B914600A21358B5B7C0B519@Laptop> References: <8894A8EA6730463B9A02C69CFEEA3583@Laptop> <64c68370-4088-e117-9751-1c35e30ff6ea@subich.com> <9F1D501B3B914600A21358B5B7C0B519@Laptop> Message-ID: Please read and study the microKEYER II Users Manual! All PTT inputs (PTT port, 2nd PTT Port, WinKey PTT, Foot switch, mic PTT, etc.) are in parallel (just like the K3). The PTT Outputs are selected on the PTT Tab in microHAM Router - with PTT1 being the PTT connector on the mic cable and PTT2 being the PTT connected to the back of the rig (ACC jack for the K3). If you have a PTT1 LED on MK II, you must connect the mic plug to the rig in order for it to actually key the rig. If you want to use PTT2, you need to select PTT2 for FSK/DIGITAL on the PTT tab in microHAM Router, the K3 must be in FSK, AFSK A or DATA A mode, and microHAM Router must be able to "read" CAT data (frequency and mode) from the rig. BTW, I see that Airlink Express has made substantial changes since the set-up example was written. It looks like FSK works properly now (even though there are still significant user interface issues) - but I will need to update the example(s) to cover FSK at some point. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/30/2016 3:24 PM, Ross wrote: > Thanks for the reply Joe,, I didn't explain very well. > I am trying to work with Airlink express, I have com6 set on PTT2 on > the router, (com6 shows on the router as open). PTT1 is none (no com port) > And com6 for RTS on Airlink setup. > Going to transmit a red triangle comes up on com6, but only PTT1 LED > comes on. > Ideas please. > Thanks > Ross > ps: at least the incoming audio is working ok > > -----Original Message----- From: Joe Subich, W4TV > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 12:19 AM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Microham keyer II > > >> Using Airlink Express (or any other digital program) I can get the >> PTT LED on the Microham to come on but it doesnt bring the k3 into >> tx. > > *Which PTT LED?* There are two PTT LEDs on microKEYER II (PTT1 which > is the mic PTT and PTT2 which is the ACC jack PTT) and one on the K3. > > As documented in the microKEYER II Users Manual and the configuration > examples for several popular software packages, you should configure > your digital software to generate PTT by raising the RTS line on a > virtual serial port. In addition, Router/MK II should generally be > configured to assert PTT2 when transmitting digital modes. > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > On 5/30/2016 3:25 AM, Ross wrote: >> >> Advice please, I have the Microham working on receive, but I cannot >> get the transmission side going for digital modes. >> Using Airlink Express (or any other digital program) I can get the PTT >> LED on the Microham to come on >> but it doesnt bring the k3 into tx. >> I have plugged the microham into the ACC socket, to try to get the K3 >> to transmit, but that doesn?t work. >> I have used the setup given in the Microham manual, so far no luck. >> Ideas please as to what I am missing. >> Thanks >> Roass >> ZL1WN >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to lists at subich.com >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rbiggar at ihug.co.nz > From w7ox at socal.rr.com Mon May 30 20:42:56 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 17:42:56 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 & Loop Antennas In-Reply-To: <8f92546b-ca51-9f86-110c-9cfa4b5a032c@foothill.net> References: <1464651514522-7618249.post@n2.nabble.com> <8f92546b-ca51-9f86-110c-9cfa4b5a032c@foothill.net> Message-ID: <441514a2-3529-b65b-ad3b-4657438b9976@socal.rr.com> Re "Try it with 1 KW, it will really surprise you. And sadly, I don't think a Reynolds Wrap hat will protect you if you're close.: Not to worry, because the AlexLoop would fail very quickly if subjected to a kW! I'd not want to be under it or anywhere near it in that case. 73, Phil W7OX On 5/30/16 5:13 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > I replaced my Buddipole with an Alex and use it > a lot in the field ... understand that as I > accumulate birthdays, "field" more and more > means a drive-to a park or friendly hill. It > works better than the BP ever did, I can set it > up in 5 min, it is fairly insensitive to ground > and surrounding objects, including me. I sit > under it so I can reach the knob. > > It's a resonant transformer. To be effective, > it must be EXACTLY resonant. That's a bit > touchy on 30 and 40. You MUST bypass the ATU. > "Getting close" with the knob and then letting > the ATU do it's matching job yields a fairly > pricey dummy load. On 40, the BW of the Alex > isn't much more than a SSB signal. > > Beware: Small mag loops can involve some huge > circulating currents and RF voltages. The Alex > is OK to 10W. Google "magnetic loop calculator" > for a very cool little calculator. Try it with > 1 KW, it will really surprise you. And sadly, I > don't think a Reynolds Wrap hat will protect you > if you're close. > > Small mag loops are bi-directional in the plane > of the loop but it is very broad. Orthogonal to > the loop plane, there are two very sharp, deep > nulls, sometimes useful to eliminate noise from > a point source or QRM. > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > - Northern California Contest Club > - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 > - www.cqp.org > > On 5/30/2016 4:38 PM, TFJM via Elecraft wrote: >> Has anyone had much success using either an >> Alex Loop or Chameleon P Loop >> antenna with their KX3? I have few antenna >> options in an apartment situation >> and throwing a 25 foot long wire into a nearby >> tree has not worked for me. >> Even tried loading up a 33 foot long aluminum >> balcony railing with no luck. >> >> Thanks, >> Tom W1PDI From mike at mdodd.com Mon May 30 20:50:46 2016 From: mike at mdodd.com (Mike Dodd) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 20:50:46 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Power On/Off In-Reply-To: <014101d1bad4$7cb784d0$76268e70$@sonic.net> References: <014101d1bad4$7cb784d0$76268e70$@sonic.net> Message-ID: <574CDFE6.9030905@mdodd.com> On 5/30/2016 8:36 PM, Ron Castro wrote: > I'm setting my K3 up at a remote facility where I can turn the 12 VDC power > supply on and off remotely, but if I turn it off, the K3 shuts down and > can't be started without using the Remote Power On/Off on pin 8 of the ACC > connector. My question: Since I will be using the power supply to turn the > radio on and off, can I simply short pin 8 to ground and leave it that way > so the radio comes on when the power supply activates? And goes off when the power supply deactivates? > Is there some reason why I should do this differently? Read the user manual. Elecraft recommends ALWAYS powering-off the radio while the power supply is still on, so various settings and configurations are properly saved. There's no way to guess if anything else in this SDR could be bollixed-up if you kill the power while the radio is turned on. -- 73, Mike N4CF Louisa County, VA USA Elecraft K3s/100 Carolina Windom up 45' http://n4cf.mdodd.com From tomb18 at videotron.ca Mon May 30 21:23:01 2016 From: tomb18 at videotron.ca (tomb18) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 21:23:01 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Win4K3Suite - Next release will support the SDRPlay as a panadapter Message-ID: <15ji8qc57h67kmh3yv2dg6id.1464657781281@email.android.com> Hi?Just a note...the next release due in June will support the SDRPLAY dongle as a Panadapter. The SDRPLAY will offer a maximum spectral bandwidth of 1.8 Mhz, unlike the 192 kHz displays of other Panadapters. In addition, there will be no need for a sound card with this device.?Look for it later in June after I return from my annual fishing trip.Back on June 8th so support for ?the next week will be closed.73 Tomva2fsq.com? Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Mon May 30 21:56:46 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 18:56:46 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Power On/Off In-Reply-To: <014101d1bad4$7cb784d0$76268e70$@sonic.net> References: <014101d1bad4$7cb784d0$76268e70$@sonic.net> Message-ID: On Mon,5/30/2016 5:36 PM, Ron Castro wrote: > Is there some reason why I should do this differently? Yes. When you turn the K3 off with its power switch, it writes current conditions to its RAM. When you turn it back on, it loads those settings. When you drop power to the K3, that write doesn't happen, so it comes up with whatever was last saved. There are folks at Elecraft who are VERY familiar with the ins and outs of remote operation in general and control of the K3 in particular. Whatever issues you're running in to, they've seen it before and can suggest good options. I heard one of them give a dynamite talk to the Saturday morning tech gathering of the Santa Cruz club a few months ago. Your best bet is to pick their brains on this issue. 73, Jim K9YC From raysills3 at verizon.net Mon May 30 22:01:09 2016 From: raysills3 at verizon.net (Ray Sills) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 22:01:09 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 & Loop Antennas In-Reply-To: <9A3E138B-C236-4C66-A2A3-9DE925BE9C79@aol.com> References: <1464651514522-7618249.post@n2.nabble.com> <8f92546b-ca51-9f86-110c-9cfa4b5a032c@foothill.net> <9A3E138B-C236-4C66-A2A3-9DE925BE9C79@aol.com> Message-ID: <66573726-59CD-478E-AF40-DCA67ACA7EEA@verizon.net> Hi Tom: There is a menu setting for the ATU which lets you put it in BYPass. The AlexLoop is tuned manually. It?s pretty easy: with your KX3 set to the operating band of choice, simply tune the tuning knob on the antenna until you hear a peak in background noise. It?s very pronounced, so you won?t miss it. That gets you in the ballpark. Then, put the KX3 into tune mode (I use one watt) and then touch up the AlexLoop?s tuning, while keeping an eye on the KX3?s SWR display. Dip the tuning for minimum SWR, and you?re done. If you have to QSY more than a few KHz, you?ll need to touch up the antenna?s tuning. The AlexLoop is a great portable antenna, especially for rigs that do not have an in-built ATU. With the AlexLoop, the loop =is= the tuner. 73 de Ray K2ULR KX3 #211 > On May 30, 2016, at 8:35 PM, TFJM via Elecraft wrote: > > Thanks for the feedback Fred. So I'll have to turn off the internal KX3 ATU? How do I do that? > > Also have you seen or read anything on the Chameleon F loop? I saw a few things on You Tube. Similar to the Alex Loop. > > Doesn't the Alex Loop tune itself? > > 73 > > Tom > W1PDI > > Sent from my iPhone From thelastdb at gmail.com Mon May 30 22:33:03 2016 From: thelastdb at gmail.com (thelastdb) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 21:33:03 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 & Loop Antennas Message-ID: All,? I found it convenient to program the PF2 key to toggle the ATU/THRU function with one button push. I have the PF1 key programmed as DUAL WATCH during the winter months for Fox hunts and programmed as RX Preamp in summer for Field ops. Myron WV?HPrinted on Recycled Data?-------- Original message --------From: Ray Sills Date: 5/30/2016 9:01 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 & Loop Antennas Hi Tom: There is a menu setting for the ATU which lets you put it in BYPass. The AlexLoop is tuned manually.?? It?s pretty easy:? with your KX3 set to the operating band of choice, simply tune the tuning knob on the antenna until you hear a peak in background noise.? It?s very pronounced, so you won?t miss it.? That gets you in the ballpark.? Then, put the KX3 into tune mode (I use one watt) and then touch up the AlexLoop?s tuning, while keeping an eye on the KX3?s SWR display.? Dip the tuning for minimum SWR, and you?re done. If you have to QSY more than a few KHz, you?ll need to touch up the antenna?s tuning.? The AlexLoop is a great portable antenna, especially for rigs that do not have an in-built ATU.?? With the AlexLoop, the loop =is= the tuner. 73 de Ray K2ULR KX3 #211 > On May 30, 2016, at 8:35 PM, TFJM via Elecraft wrote: > > Thanks for the feedback Fred. So I'll have to turn off the internal KX3 ATU? How do I do that? > > Also have you seen or read anything on the Chameleon F loop? I saw a few things on You Tube. Similar to the Alex Loop. > > Doesn't the Alex Loop tune itself? > > 73 > > Tom > W1PDI > > Sent from my iPhone ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to thelastdb at gmail.com From w0mbt at w0mbt.net Tue May 31 01:06:19 2016 From: w0mbt at w0mbt.net (Bruce Nourish) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 05:06:19 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Another cool KX2 video from the "Goat" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Does anyone know what model microphone Frank is using for SSB around the 0:30 mark? On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 3:49 PM Peter Pauly wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ORBxLV72n4 > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w0mbt at w0mbt.net > From ppauly at gmail.com Tue May 31 05:46:48 2016 From: ppauly at gmail.com (Peter Pauly) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 05:46:48 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Another cool KX2 video from the "Goat" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think it's this one: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002EQ6E9E On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 1:06 AM, Bruce Nourish wrote: > Does anyone know what model microphone Frank is using for SSB around the > 0:30 mark? > > On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 3:49 PM Peter Pauly wrote: > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ORBxLV72n4 >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to w0mbt at w0mbt.net >> > From john at kk9a.com Tue May 31 07:22:02 2016 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 07:22:02 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Power On/Off Message-ID: How do you save the current settings? I think most of us at some point in our lives have had a power failure while operating. John KK9A Jim Brown jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Mon May 30 21:56:46 EDT 2016 Yes. When you turn the K3 off with its power switch, it writes current conditions to its RAM. When you turn it back on, it loads those settings. When you drop power to the K3, that write doesn't happen, so it comes up with whatever was last saved. From rodenkirch_llc at msn.com Tue May 31 08:12:51 2016 From: rodenkirch_llc at msn.com (Jim Rodenkirch) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 05:12:51 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Suggested KX3 "upgrade" In-Reply-To: <574CD54E.7070805@mdodd.com> References: <1464650825603-7618248.post@n2.nabble.com> <574CD54E.7070805@mdodd.com> Message-ID: <1464696771706-7618269.post@n2.nabble.com> I KNEW someone wud introduce N1MM as the answer to my "problem"/request and, without knowing my operating "style"/focus and making an assumption, the suggestion of using a contesting program is sorta expected. I didn't mention "full blown contests" as a supporting argument for my "needy requirement" but, you are correct......N1MM s/w wud remove the need for using the "beacon mode....." BUT - you are assuming - that's a bad thing - all of my operating time is not spent in "full blown contests." Approximately 10% of my time is in "full blown events" -- the other 90% is focused on: - NPOTA - SOTA - 2 hour sprints where taking the time to use N1MM isn't worth it - in fact, there are other s/w programs that work mo betta than N1MM ("gasp," total heresy, I suspect we'll hear from the contesting "bubbas") - last, but not least.........I enjoy a QSO, for the simple act/pleasure of meeting new and previously met hams. Believe it, or not, that task involves, more often than not, calling CQ....a lot!! OK????????????? My "request" remaing salient and germane...........72 de Jim R. K9JWV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Suggested-KX3-upgrade-tp7618248p7618269.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From w0mbt at w0mbt.net Tue May 31 08:31:06 2016 From: w0mbt at w0mbt.net (Bruce Nourish) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 12:31:06 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Another cool KX2 video from the "Goat" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Perfect, thanks! On Tue, May 31, 2016, 02:46 Peter Pauly wrote: > I think it's this one: > > http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002EQ6E9E > > On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 1:06 AM, Bruce Nourish wrote: > >> Does anyone know what model microphone Frank is using for SSB around the >> 0:30 mark? >> >> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 3:49 PM Peter Pauly wrote: >> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ORBxLV72n4 >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to w0mbt at w0mbt.net >>> >> > From bob at g3pjt.com Tue May 31 09:31:20 2016 From: bob at g3pjt.com (Bob G3PJT) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 14:31:20 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 - Wanted KSB2 module Message-ID: <574D9228.3060907@g3pjt.com> Hi Anyone got a spare KSB2, built or unbuilt kit , they want to get rid of? E mail me off reflector please. 73 Bob G3PJT From rodenkirch_llc at msn.com Tue May 31 10:17:28 2016 From: rodenkirch_llc at msn.com (Jim Rodenkirch) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 07:17:28 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Suggested KX3 "upgrade" In-Reply-To: <1464696771706-7618269.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1464650825603-7618248.post@n2.nabble.com> <574CD54E.7070805@mdodd.com> <1464696771706-7618269.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1464704248641-7618272.post@n2.nabble.com> My apologies for NOT stipulating my range of operations when I submitted the original post....I feel like others have posted a request for this sort of "improvement" earlier....Jim R. K9JWV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Suggested-KX3-upgrade-tp7618248p7618272.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From nr4c at widomaker.com Tue May 31 10:40:32 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 10:40:32 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Suggested KX3 "upgrade" In-Reply-To: <1464704248641-7618272.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1464650825603-7618248.post@n2.nabble.com> <574CD54E.7070805@mdodd.com> <1464696771706-7618269.post@n2.nabble.com> <1464704248641-7618272.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <57C7F790-ECBF-4C3A-8C5D-C38BAFEAAACE@widomaker.com> I think pressing any button the KX3 will terminate the msg repeat. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 31, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Jim Rodenkirch wrote: > > My apologies for NOT stipulating my range of operations when I submitted the > original post....I feel like others have posted a request for this sort of > "improvement" earlier....Jim R. K9JWV > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Suggested-KX3-upgrade-tp7618248p7618272.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From w0eb at cox.net Tue May 31 11:07:31 2016 From: w0eb at cox.net (Jim Sheldon) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 15:07:31 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Suggested KX3 "upgrade" In-Reply-To: <12ij1t01045oxQM012iknU> Message-ID: Any button will definitely stop it, but (and this includes the K3, K3S, KX3 and possibly the KX2 as well) oft times you will get a partial (dot or dash) sent even when pressing a button. Even when calling CQ looking for a general QSO this can be annoying and confusing to both the sending station and any station listening/planning on answering the CQ. It definitely is not exclusive to "running" in a contest. It bugs me as well and I am not a contester. The original poster's request is certainly reasonable and I suspect this has bugged a lot of people (myself included) for a long time but most of us didn't want to endure the "use N1MM" and other similar replies having no real bearing on the original request. Jim - W0EB ------ Original Message ------ From: "Nr4c" To: "Jim Rodenkirch" Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Sent: 5/31/2016 9:40:32 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Suggested KX3 "upgrade" >I think pressing any button the KX3 will terminate the msg repeat. > >Sent from my iPhone >...nr4c. bill > > >> On May 31, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Jim Rodenkirch >>wrote: >> >> My apologies for NOT stipulating my range of operations when I >>submitted the >> original post....I feel like others have posted a request for this >>sort of >> "improvement" earlier....Jim R. K9JWV >> >> >> From bob at g3pjt.com Tue May 31 11:11:15 2016 From: bob at g3pjt.com (Bob G3PJT) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 16:11:15 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] [K2} Wanted KSB2 module Message-ID: <574DA993.1010703@g3pjt.com> Hi Anyone got a spare KSB2, built or unbuilt kit , they want to get rid of? E mail me off reflector please. 73 Bob G3PJT PS repeat post as subject format error From len at ka7ftp.com Tue May 31 11:24:20 2016 From: len at ka7ftp.com (len at ka7ftp.com) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 09:24:20 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] FS: KX1 with all of the options 80/40/30/20 - SOLD Message-ID: <190e01d1bb50$81101e30$83305a90$@ka7ftp.com> KX1 has been sold. Hi All, After getting my KX3 I no longer use my KX1 and am selling it.? I built my KX1 kit in 2011 and am a very experienced builder, the radio works perfectly.? The KX1 has been always kept in my non-smoking home. Selling the KX1 with the KXAT1 internal antenna tuner.? The KX1 has the KXB3080 option giving the radio coverage on 80,40,30, and 20 meters.? It also comes with the KXPD1 plug in paddle.? The radio is powered with 6 UltraFire Li-ion AA sized batteries giving it plenty of capacity.? I will include two UltraFire rapid chargers with the KX1.? Also include is the original documentation, a BNC to binding post adaptor, and a cigarette lighter plug adaptor.? ?I?m asking $500 for the complete KX1 radio and accessories.? I will ship within the continental US and cover shipping and insurance.? I can accept payment by PayPal or a US Postal Service money order.? If you are interested please contact me directly at: ?len at ka7ftp dot com Pictures: http://ka7ftp.com/KX1/ 73 KA7FTP Len ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to len at ka7ftp.com From aj9c at indy.rr.com Tue May 31 11:40:01 2016 From: aj9c at indy.rr.com (Mike Kasrich) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 11:40:01 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 Message-ID: Has anyone put together a KX-3 kit. Is any more or less involved that putting together a K-3? Anyone use a KX-3 in a contest and interfaced with N1MM+? Any quirks/tips? and finally I am looking for a KX-3 trying to decide between new and used. Anyone have a KX-3 they are looking to part with? Please reply direct to aj9c at indy.rr.com so as not to clutter the list. 73 Mike/aj9c p.s. this would be mainly a back up/travel rig. Looking at the IC-7300 too From jimfinan at att.net Tue May 31 11:53:41 2016 From: jimfinan at att.net (Jim Finan) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 11:53:41 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20160531155341.5869650.82841.39995@att.net> KX3 is a bunch easier to build and takes much less time than the K3/K3s. Depending on your options there are some small connectors to deal with but not too bad. Compared to working on a cell phone it is a piece of cake.? You can download the manual(s) from the Elecraft website and check it out. 73, Jim Jim?Finan AB4AC ? Sent?from?my?BlackBerry?10?smartphone. ? Original Message ? From: Mike Kasrich Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 11:41 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 Has anyone put together a KX-3 kit. Is any more or less involved that putting together a K-3? Anyone use a KX-3 in a contest and interfaced with N1MM+? Any quirks/tips? and finally I am looking for a KX-3 trying to decide between new and used. Anyone have a KX-3 they are looking to part with? Please reply direct to aj9c at indy.rr.com so as not to clutter the list. 73 Mike/aj9c p.s. this would be mainly a back up/travel rig. Looking at the IC-7300 too ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jimfinan at att.net From rodenkirch_llc at msn.com Tue May 31 11:58:33 2016 From: rodenkirch_llc at msn.com (Jim Rodenkirch) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 08:58:33 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Suggested KX3 "upgrade" In-Reply-To: <57C7F790-ECBF-4C3A-8C5D-C38BAFEAAACE@widomaker.com> References: <1464650825603-7618248.post@n2.nabble.com> <574CD54E.7070805@mdodd.com> <1464696771706-7618269.post@n2.nabble.com> <1464704248641-7618272.post@n2.nabble.com> <57C7F790-ECBF-4C3A-8C5D-C38BAFEAAACE@widomaker.com> Message-ID: <1464710313173-7618279.post@n2.nabble.com> True, NR4C.......BUT....why should one have to push a button on the radio....that places more stress on whichever button is employed....I'd much rather see, hopefully, some sort of fix via firmware mod, where one can use the key to do that without adding a "wear and tear" element to expensive radios!!! I see support from W0EB for this and hope others chime in if they share our view....72 de Jim R. K9JWV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Suggested-KX3-upgrade-tp7618248p7618279.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From mike at mdodd.com Tue May 31 11:58:59 2016 From: mike at mdodd.com (Mike Dodd) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 11:58:59 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <574DB4C3.5070907@mdodd.com> On 5/31/2016 11:40 AM, Mike Kasrich wrote: > Has anyone put together a KX-3 kit. Is any more or less involved that > putting together a K-3? I assembled both. The K3 is more involved than the KX3, but both were straightforward. The instructions and parts lists are top-notch for both rigs. > Anyone use a KX-3 in a contest and interfaced > with N1MM+? Any quirks/tips? Yes to both. Both play very well with N1MM+. I haven't noticed any quirks. On SSB contests with non-variable exchanges (i.e., no serial number), I recorded messages in the KX3's two DVR memories. This allowed me to operate in one mode (e.g., S&P or run), but I needed more DVR memories to record messages for the opposite mode. The K3s has more DVR memories, so I expect to be able to use four of them. I did NOT record .wav files and play them through the rig for total voice automation. I don't like the typical pause between spoken letters and numerals. W....1....A....W FIVE NINE NUMBER....THREE....SEVEN....TWO If I could get rid of the pauses, I could use the K3s built-in USB sound card. The KX3 doesn't have one, so I'd need an external audio interface or sound card if I wanted total voice automation with that rig. My KX3 currently is in storage, and is not for sale. Hope this helps. -- 73, Mike N4CF Louisa County, VA USA Elecraft K3s/100 Carolina Windom up 45' http://n4cf.mdodd.com From nr4c at widomaker.com Tue May 31 13:43:37 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 13:43:37 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <65BC1CBE-0B50-4027-8581-13752A2B3595@widomaker.com> The KX3 (no "-") requires a lot less assembly than a k3. And it connects almost like K3 to computer. Major missing items are no DTR-RTS available on serial connector and no dedicated Lin In/Out. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 31, 2016, at 11:40 AM, Mike Kasrich wrote: > > Has anyone put together a KX-3 kit. Is any more or less involved that putting together a K-3? Anyone use a KX-3 in a contest and interfaced with N1MM+? Any quirks/tips? and finally I am looking for a KX-3 trying to decide between new and used. Anyone have a KX-3 they are looking to part with? Please reply direct to aj9c at indy.rr.com so as not to clutter the list. > > 73 > > Mike/aj9c > > p.s. this would be mainly a back up/travel rig. Looking at the IC-7300 too > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From bhemmis at mac.com Tue May 31 14:15:31 2016 From: bhemmis at mac.com (Brian Hemmis) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 14:15:31 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FS: K3 transceiver w/ options In-Reply-To: <574DB4C3.5070907@mdodd.com> References: <574DB4C3.5070907@mdodd.com> Message-ID: Selling my K3. Serial # 6625. Includes the following options: KPA3 100 watt amp module KAT3 Antenna Tuner module KXV3 RX Antenna, XVRTR interface, IF Tap board PR6 6 meter preamp 400Hz 8 pole CW Filter 2.8 kHz 8 pole SSB filter 13 kHz AM/FM 8 pole filter MH2 Hand Mic Power cable Computer interface cable All manuals plus Fred Cady KE7X manual Radio is in perfect cosmetic & operating condition. Always used indoors and I?m a non-smoker. Didn?t see a lot of use as I have several radios and am only at this QTH half the year. You?ll be pleased. $ 2395 includes FedEx Ground shipping CONUS. Friends & family PayPal OK too. If you?d prefer to demo & pick up the radio at my suburban Cleveland, OH QTH that?s fine too. I?m also willing to remove some of the options (mic,filters & preamp) to reduce your cost. Brian K3USC (since 1962) home phone 216-848-0211 cell phone 814-866-2585 From lists at subich.com Tue May 31 14:41:28 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 14:41:28 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 In-Reply-To: <574DB4C3.5070907@mdodd.com> References: <574DB4C3.5070907@mdodd.com> Message-ID: <73b36c59-1e6f-566b-5049-5eb241ab9c99@subich.com> > If I could get rid of the pauses, I could use the K3s built-in USB > sound card. The KX3 doesn't have one, so I'd need an external audio > interface or sound card if I wanted total voice automation with that > rig. Unfortunately, since the KX3 (and KX2) lack dedicated Line In/Ln Out jacks, interfacing headphones and a mic at the same time as a sound card for DVK and/or RTTY/PSK is nearly impossible. That significantly limits the suitability of the KX3 (and KX2) as a serious contest rig even if one discounts the 20 dB *higher* transmit phase noise of the KX3 (comparison of composite noise test data of K3/100 [Feb 2009 > 1 KHz.] vs. KX3 [Dec 2012]) or nearly double the keying bandwidth at 60 WPM of the KX3 vs. K3 (same two product reviews). The K3 is cleaner at 1 KW than the barefoot KX3. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/31/2016 11:58 AM, Mike Dodd wrote: > On 5/31/2016 11:40 AM, Mike Kasrich wrote: >> Has anyone put together a KX-3 kit. Is any more or less involved that >> putting together a K-3? > > I assembled both. The K3 is more involved than the KX3, but both were > straightforward. The instructions and parts lists are top-notch for both > rigs. > >> Anyone use a KX-3 in a contest and interfaced >> with N1MM+? Any quirks/tips? > > Yes to both. Both play very well with N1MM+. I haven't noticed any > quirks. On SSB contests with non-variable exchanges (i.e., no serial > number), I recorded messages in the KX3's two DVR memories. This allowed > me to operate in one mode (e.g., S&P or run), but I needed more DVR > memories to record messages for the opposite mode. The K3s has more DVR > memories, so I expect to be able to use four of them. > > I did NOT record .wav files and play them through the rig for total > voice automation. I don't like the typical pause between spoken letters > and numerals. W....1....A....W FIVE NINE NUMBER....THREE....SEVEN....TWO > > If I could get rid of the pauses, I could use the K3s built-in USB sound > card. The KX3 doesn't have one, so I'd need an external audio interface > or sound card if I wanted total voice automation with that rig. > > My KX3 currently is in storage, and is not for sale. > > Hope this helps. > From rheming1 at sbcglobal.net Tue May 31 14:44:48 2016 From: rheming1 at sbcglobal.net (Richard W Hemingway) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 18:44:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] For P3 sale References: <1476868315.1901526.1464720288354.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1476868315.1901526.1464720288354.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if this is the proper place to offer things for sale, however, I have a P3, with the P3SVGA-F ?video adapter ? ? ? installed for sale. ?I operate PSK f rom my apartment on a small antenna and ?don't need or use the P3. ?If interested eMail me at: rheming1 at sbcglobal.net ?Thanks Dick N5XRD From rheming1 at sbcglobal.net Tue May 31 15:14:41 2016 From: rheming1 at sbcglobal.net (Richard W Hemingway) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 19:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] The P3 has been sold References: <1409296139.1876996.1464722081637.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1409296139.1876996.1464722081637.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> The P3 has been sold. ?Thanks to everyone who inquired. Dick, N5XRD From john at kn5l.net Tue May 31 15:15:04 2016 From: john at kn5l.net (John Oppenheimer) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 14:15:04 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Suggested KX3 "upgrade" In-Reply-To: <1464650825603-7618248.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1464650825603-7618248.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: My general operating style is to use a CW memory REPEAT for sending CQ, both at home and during field operations. I sure would be nice to end the memory with a tap of the key and not send an element. Both my new KX2 and KX3. John KN5L On 05/30/2016 06:27 PM, Jim Rodenkirch wrote: > Could sumpin' be done, firmware wise, to let us hit the the key without > sending the dit or dah? From k3ndm at comcast.net Tue May 31 15:26:34 2016 From: k3ndm at comcast.net (Barry LaZar) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 19:26:34 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 In-Reply-To: <73b36c59-1e6f-566b-5049-5eb241ab9c99@subich.com> Message-ID: Joe, I use the aux out on my SignaLink USB to go to my powered speakers. I can hear simultaneously what I'm decoding using the built in sound card. I found this is the easiest to do and requires nothing other than invoking the digital software I use, no cable changes. There is one exception, the mic input is used for input from the SignaLink. This very same path is used for non-digital modes. If I go voice contesting I can switch over to my Heil Pro headset with mic and use a foot switch. I would do the same whether I used a KX2, KX3, or K3. In fact, I did the same when I used my Orion II. I use my KX3 for contesting, both as a base with the matching KXPA100 or QRP on Field Day. I find that the radio is as competitive and as any radio used for SOAB; the limitations in my scoring is operator and not radio. My experience in contesting, seriously, is not the KX3, but some of the really poor signals and poor operation of the other stations. For instance, the key clicks from Yeasu rigs are a real pain if the station is strong. And, our local power company is the other limitation. 73, Barry K3NDM ------ Original Message ------ From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Sent: 5/31/2016 2:41:28 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX-3 > >>If I could get rid of the pauses, I could use the K3s built-in USB >>sound card. The KX3 doesn't have one, so I'd need an external audio >>interface or sound card if I wanted total voice automation with that >>rig. > >Unfortunately, since the KX3 (and KX2) lack dedicated Line In/Ln Out >jacks, interfacing headphones and a mic at the same time as a sound >card for DVK and/or RTTY/PSK is nearly impossible. That significantly >limits the suitability of the KX3 (and KX2) as a serious contest rig >even if one discounts the 20 dB *higher* transmit phase noise of the >KX3 (comparison of composite noise test data of K3/100 [Feb 2009 > >1 KHz.] vs. KX3 [Dec 2012]) or nearly double the keying bandwidth at >60 WPM of the KX3 vs. K3 (same two product reviews). > >The K3 is cleaner at 1 KW than the barefoot KX3. > >73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > >On 5/31/2016 11:58 AM, Mike Dodd wrote: >>On 5/31/2016 11:40 AM, Mike Kasrich wrote: >>>Has anyone put together a KX-3 kit. Is any more or less involved that >>>putting together a K-3? >> >>I assembled both. The K3 is more involved than the KX3, but both were >>straightforward. The instructions and parts lists are top-notch for >>both >>rigs. >> >>>Anyone use a KX-3 in a contest and interfaced >>>with N1MM+? Any quirks/tips? >> >>Yes to both. Both play very well with N1MM+. I haven't noticed any >>quirks. On SSB contests with non-variable exchanges (i.e., no serial >>number), I recorded messages in the KX3's two DVR memories. This >>allowed >>me to operate in one mode (e.g., S&P or run), but I needed more DVR >>memories to record messages for the opposite mode. The K3s has more >>DVR >>memories, so I expect to be able to use four of them. >> >>I did NOT record .wav files and play them through the rig for total >>voice automation. I don't like the typical pause between spoken >>letters >>and numerals. W....1....A....W FIVE NINE >>NUMBER....THREE....SEVEN....TWO >> >>If I could get rid of the pauses, I could use the K3s built-in USB >>sound >>card. The KX3 doesn't have one, so I'd need an external audio >>interface >>or sound card if I wanted total voice automation with that rig. >> >>My KX3 currently is in storage, and is not for sale. >> >>Hope this helps. >> >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to k3ndm at comcast.net From eric at elecraft.com Tue May 31 15:40:56 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 12:40:56 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping Status requests on KX3 Message-ID: <9c243ea0-5322-9f5a-14d2-860ec4b16152@elecraft.com> Hi everyone, Its been a busy last couple of weeks at Elecraft! We are still recovering from Dayton and are working on entering all of the latest KX2 web orders . At the moment we are overloaded by all the email requests for KX2 order status (some just a couple of days after order.) This in turn is delaying our entry of the remaining KX2 orders. If at all possible, please hold off another week asking for order status unless its absolute necessary. That will help us get your KX2 out as quickly as possible. We will keep updating the status page with more detailed info as we have it. See: http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm 73, Eric /elecraft.com/ From nbpriddy at aol.com Tue May 31 15:50:57 2016 From: nbpriddy at aol.com (Nathern Priddy) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 15:50:57 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Using MARS M110A with K3 + Microkeyer? Message-ID: <155085e7a22-6fba-ceda@webprd-a41.mail.aol.com> Has anyone been able to get the MARS soundcard mode M110A working with their K3 and an original microKeyer? I tried to get the program working using DATA A, but I get almost no output power. With the K3 set to 50 watts, I get maybe 5 watts output as monitored with a Bird wattmeter. M110A is a wideband mode that is not allowed on the ham bands, but is widely used within MARS for digital traffic. M110A works great with my old TS-2000 and a homebrew, passive soundcard interface. Barry Priddy - K5VIP From n6kr at elecraft.com Tue May 31 15:56:34 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 12:56:34 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 accessibility improvements ready for review/test Message-ID: We just completed the first phase of accessibility improvements for the KX2. The CW audio-tone interface now covers all front panel switches and knobs (except frequency memory store/recall), bringing the KX2 up to the same level as the KX3. Menu and frequency memory accessibility is also planned, but this is a complex upgrade and we can't put a date on it yet. If you have a KX2 and would like to try the new field-test firmware, or if you'd just like to review the KX2 Accessibility documentation, please contact me directly. 73, Wayne N6KR From w0cz at i29.net Tue May 31 16:09:25 2016 From: w0cz at i29.net (Kenneth Christiansen) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 15:09:25 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Can't get KXPA100 to turn on when PX3 is attached after SOTA trip. In-Reply-To: <00b601d1bab7$dcf9b970$96ed2c50$@comcast.net> References: <00b601d1bab7$dcf9b970$96ed2c50$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8F0F5DB3-BCAE-42ED-B5BE-7CB4E9B049BF@i29.net> Hi Terry I never saw anyone answer your question and I just got home from work so I could not do it earlier. I just took my KX3, PX3 and PA3 camping this week end and had the exact same problem you describe. I had one cable in the wrong place so here is what you need to make sure you do. The cord From ACC1 on the KX3 must be connected to the ACC1-XCVR on the PX3. The cord from the black box of the control cord of the PX3 must be connected to the ACC1-PC on the PX3. All the other cords can be plugged in or left out and of course the PX3 will not work properly if they are left out but the PA3 will work just fine as long as those two cords are connected. I hope this helps you. I lost about 4 hours of operating time until I figured out just what I needed to connect to get it to work. 73 and good luck Ken. W0CZ w0cz at i29 dot net Sent from my iPad > On May 30, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Terry Brown wrote: > > I disconnected my PX3 and KX3 from my KXPA100 to take on a SOTA activation. > When I returned I connected everything as it was before, and when I try to > turn on the KXPA100 from the KX3 "PA Mode" to on, the amp will not turn on, > and after a few seconds the PA Mode goes to off. I disconnect the PX3 from > the circuit and connect the KX3 to the KXPA100 directly and everything works > as normal. I have checked the continuity of the connecting cables from the > PX3 and KX3 and there are no short or open circuits. > > > > I have triple checked my cable connections to make sure they are connected > properly and have pushed in on the plugs to make sure they are firmly > seated. The PX3 is showing properly one every band, and appears to be > working normally. The KX3 seems to be working fine as well, I just can't > turn on the KPXA100. > > > > Any suggestions would be really helpful. Thanks! > > > > 73's, > > > > Terry, N7TB > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wocz at i29.net > From n6kr at elecraft.com Tue May 31 16:12:44 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 13:12:44 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 Message-ID: Joe, The KX3, KX2, and K3/K3S should have virtually the same keying bandwidth. They all use the same raised-cosine keying envelope shape, and this is by far the dominant factor unless the transmit final amplifier is being overdriven. We looked at this in independent reviews and our in-house plots. The keying BW looks pretty much the same on all three rigs. The 100 W K3 may be a tiny bit better, but there's nowhere near "twice" the difference. The K3S (or K3 with KSYN3A upgrade) does have the edge in composite, wide-band transmit phase noise. RMDR for the K3S (or K3+KSYNA) is roughly the same. Wayne From eric at elecraft.com Tue May 31 16:14:54 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 13:14:54 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping Status requests on KX2 [corrected subj line] Message-ID: <1016ef0f-506a-22d6-5f35-3004eefb0ce4@elecraft.com> Hi everyone, Its been a busy last couple of weeks at Elecraft! We are still recovering from Dayton and are working on entering all of the latest KX2 web orders . At the moment we are overloaded by all the email requests for KX2 order status (some just a couple of days after order.) This in turn is delaying our entry of the remaining KX2 orders. If at all possible, please hold off another week asking for order status unless its absolute necessary. That will help us get your KX2 out as quickly as possible. We will keep updating the status page with more detailed info as we have it. See: http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm 73, Eric /elecraft.com/ From n6kr at elecraft.com Tue May 31 16:27:38 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 13:27:38 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX2 accessibility improvements ready for review/test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <042DF3C4-6398-4C7F-BFCF-4B9F433FBD67@elecraft.com> This is on the wish-list. tnx Wayne N6KR On May 31, 2016, at 1:06 PM, Scott Dupuie wrote: > Wayne, > > Have you ever considered implementing an audible SWR indicator (lower tones better SSR, higher tones worse SWR, or something like that)? I would find this very handy for adjusting my AlexLoop in the field. Often times I cannot easily see the KX3?s display from the antenna location while I?m adjusting for resonance. > > Scott > AK5SD > >> On May 31, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com [KX3] wrote: >> >> We just completed the first phase of accessibility improvements for the KX2. The CW audio-tone interface now covers all front panel switches and knobs (except frequency memory store/recall), bringing the KX2 up to the same level as the KX3. Menu and frequency memory accessibility is also planned, but this is a complex upgrade and we can't put a date on it yet. >> >> If you have a KX2 and would like to try the new field-test firmware, or if you'd just like to review the KX2 Accessibility documentation, please contact me directly. >> >> 73, >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> >> __._,_.___ >> Posted by: Wayne Burdick >> Reply via web post ? Reply to sender ? Reply to group ? Start a New Topic ? 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Terms of Use >> >> . >> >> >> __,_._,___ > From turnbull at net1.ie Tue May 31 16:39:49 2016 From: turnbull at net1.ie (Doug Turnbull) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 20:39:49 -0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 & Loop Antennas In-Reply-To: <1464651514522-7618249.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1464651514522-7618249.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of TFJM via Elecraft Sent: 30 May 2016 23:39 To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 & Loop Antennas Has anyone had much success using either an Alex Loop or Chameleon P Loop antenna with their KX3? I have few antenna options in an apartment situation and throwing a 25 foot long wire into a nearby tree has not worked for me. Even tried loading up a 33 foot long aluminum balcony railing with no luck. Thanks, Tom W1PDI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-Loop-Antennas-tp7618249.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to turnbull at net1.ie From g6glp at strus.co.uk Tue May 31 17:07:13 2016 From: g6glp at strus.co.uk (Tony G6GLP) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 22:07:13 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod order status Message-ID: Hi All, With all this talk about the KX2 and its order status the mention of the K-POD seems to have lost focus in the list here. I hope the KX2 status will or is not having an impact on the delivery status of the K-POD. The info I have is it will start shipping around 13 June a short two weeks away. Due to postal delays etc I am wondering if it will be possible to collect it from the Elecraft stand in FHN. Also will other items be available on the Stand, as last year there was nothing for sale as I remember. 73 de Tony G6GL:P From larrydwarner at gmail.com Tue May 31 17:29:21 2016 From: larrydwarner at gmail.com (Larry D. Warner) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 14:29:21 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Mount Bracket Message-ID: <0eba01d1bb83$7f1b9900$7d52cb00$@gmail.com> Does anyone have a good mounting bracket for the KX3? I want to mount it to a pole in my 2006 Expedition so need a bracket from the KX3 to the pole. I don't have the pole yet so if you have a pole you like, please tell me what that is as well. Regards, Larry KG7ZSB You cannot live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you. -- John Wooden From qrp.wg0at at gmail.com Tue May 31 19:36:38 2016 From: qrp.wg0at at gmail.com (Steve Galchutt) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 17:36:38 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2/CO to UK Wire-n-Tree, 10W-17m SSB! (SFI=86 Spots=58) Message-ID: <5C9852E5-D1F9-44C7-BB4A-9821A7C9C628@gmail.com> Took a new ham & friend (who?s interested in learn code and using it in the filed) up Mt Herman this morning to experience his first SOTA activation! We were on 17/20m SSB. Stellar morning sunny 60s with a few white puffy clouds. I set up the KX2 on 17m, thru a wire up a tree and took the first shift ...then halted the pile and said "standby for a change of operators" Eric/W0RLY took over ...he was in the hot seat working over a dozen stations coast to coast in just minutes! Of course he couldn?t stop grinning the whole time! (Photo of log page is only half of his QSOs!) He did great!! Suddenly we hear a big roar of (5)-F16s (Thunderbirds) buzzing the mountain actually flying below us as they practiced for AFA graduation ceremony coming soon. (Red circle in center of the enlarged pic!) Then my MH3 mic developed a intermittent open-short so it was good to have my tiny back up mic! The little cell phone mic recently converted worked excellent! (also had KX2?s internal mic but prefer the "PTT" mic) ...Busy day! Grand finale! ...I then work SOTA friend in UK -- Phil/G4OBK in PICKERING England Wow! ...he was using 150w to a 3-el yagi to my little KX2 using a 29' wire in tree @ 25' w/10w SSB!!! Woohoo! ...made my day! Who says the bands are dead!? Steve/wGOAT Sound file of Phil (rough QRM!): https://soundcloud.com/goathiker/g4obk Photos: https://flic.kr/s/aHskAMQb5N From thelastdb at gmail.com Tue May 31 19:47:13 2016 From: thelastdb at gmail.com (thelastdb) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 18:47:13 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Suggested KX3 "upgrade" Message-ID: I'll second this request. Myron WV?HPrinted on Recycled Data?-------- Original message --------From: John Oppenheimer Date: 5/31/2016 2:15 PM (GMT-06:00) To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Suggested KX3 "upgrade" My general operating style is to use a CW memory REPEAT for sending CQ, both at home and during field operations. I sure would be nice to end the memory with a tap of the key and not send an element. Both my new KX2 and KX3. John KN5L On 05/30/2016 06:27 PM, Jim Rodenkirch wrote: > Could sumpin' be done, firmware wise, to let us hit the the key without > sending the dit or dah? ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to thelastdb at gmail.com From n6kr at elecraft.com Tue May 31 19:57:05 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 16:57:05 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Suggested KX3 "upgrade" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is near the top of the firmware list for both radios. Wayne On May 31, 2016, at 4:47 PM, thelastdb wrote: > I'll second this request. > Myron WV?HPrinted on Recycled Data -------- Original message --------From: John Oppenheimer Date: 5/31/2016 2:15 PM (GMT-06:00) To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Suggested KX3 "upgrade" > My general operating style is to use a CW memory REPEAT for sending CQ, > both at home and during field operations. > > I sure would be nice to end the memory with a tap of the key and not > send an element. Both my new KX2 and KX3. > > John KN5L > > On 05/30/2016 06:27 PM, Jim Rodenkirch wrote: >> Could sumpin' be done, firmware wise, to let us hit the the key without >> sending the dit or dah? > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to thelastdb at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From bob.novas at verizon.net Tue May 31 20:00:49 2016 From: bob.novas at verizon.net (Bob Novas) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 20:00:49 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod order status In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008e01d1bb98$a7fcf110$f7f6d330$@verizon.net> what he said. Bob W3DK > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tony > G6GLP > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 5:07 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod order status > > Hi All, > > With all this talk about the KX2 and its order status the mention of the K-POD > seems to have lost focus in the list here. I hope the KX2 status will or is not > having an impact on the delivery status of the K-POD. The info I have is it will > start shipping around 13 June a short two weeks away. > > Due to postal delays etc I am wondering if it will be possible to collect it from > the Elecraft stand in FHN. Also will other items be available on the Stand, as last > year there was nothing for sale as I remember. > > > 73 de Tony G6GL:P > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to bob.novas at verizon.net From lists at subich.com Tue May 31 20:08:33 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 20:08:33 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Using MARS M110A with K3 + Microkeyer? In-Reply-To: <155085e7a22-6fba-ceda@webprd-a41.mail.aol.com> References: <155085e7a22-6fba-ceda@webprd-a41.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: Have you configured the K3 for DATA A, MENU:MIC SEL=LINE IN and set up audio levels in microKEYER and your sound card as documented in "Setting Audio Levels" in the MK Users Manual? I have no experience with M110A but MK and the K3 should operate the same way for any audio based data mode. I know the audio set-up instructions work just fine for AFSK, PSK31/63/125, JT65/JT9, MFSK, DominoEX, Contestia, Olivia, etc. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/31/2016 3:50 PM, Nathern Priddy via Elecraft wrote: > Has anyone been able to get the MARS soundcard mode M110A working with their K3 and an original microKeyer? I tried to get the program working using DATA A, but I get almost no output power. With the K3 set to 50 watts, I get maybe 5 watts output as monitored with a Bird wattmeter. > > M110A is a wideband mode that is not allowed on the ham bands, but is widely used within MARS for digital traffic. > > M110A works great with my old TS-2000 and a homebrew, passive soundcard interface. > > Barry Priddy - K5VIP > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to lists at subich.com > From rbiggar at ihug.co.nz Tue May 31 20:17:01 2016 From: rbiggar at ihug.co.nz (Ross) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 12:17:01 +1200 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and Microham Digikeyer 2 and N1MM Message-ID: I am setting up my K3 with N1MM, so far I have the K3 transmitting and receiving on RTTY, using the Microham. But my problem is The router and N1mm are not seeing the K3 to report the frequency etc. Can someone please let me know what settings in the router and N1MM will ensure that they talk to each other. Or just the settings in N1MM that will allow it to talk to the K3. Thanks Ross ZL1WN From sdsmithbiz at gmail.com Tue May 31 20:29:49 2016 From: sdsmithbiz at gmail.com (WD4SDC) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 17:29:49 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Mount Bracket In-Reply-To: <0eba01d1bb83$7f1b9900$7d52cb00$@gmail.com> References: <0eba01d1bb83$7f1b9900$7d52cb00$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1464740989359-7618306.post@n2.nabble.com> Larry, I used this to do a KX3 dash mount, but it may also work using a pole mount: http://www.gpscity.com/ram-mount-plastic-universal-finger-grip-clamping-cradle.html It "finger grips" the radio. I've had it in an out of the car on almost a daily basis (because I can't be without my KX3 ;) ) and it has worked great! 73's Steve WD4SDC. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-Mount-Bracket-tp7618297p7618306.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From lists at subich.com Tue May 31 20:33:19 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 20:33:19 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4a8fe857-3fc1-a6d8-e2a4-377400672860@subich.com> > We looked at this in independent reviews and our in-house plots. The > keying BW looks pretty much the same on all three rigs. The 100 W K3 > may be a tiny bit better, but there's nowhere near "twice" the > difference. While the graphs in QST are not the best in the world, I'm comparing the K3 and KX3 at -60 dB. At that level the "outside" of the K3 is, at most +/- 300 Hz while the KX3 is at least +/- 500 Hz. In any case, the published composite noise level of the K3 - even with the original synthesizer - is equal to the KX3 at 2 KHz while it is in some cases as much as 25 dB better in the 10 - 100 KHz range. While it might not be an issue at 10 - 15 Watts, that's a whole lot of phase noise when run into the KX3 into a KXPA100 to drive a "full gallon". 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/31/2016 4:12 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Joe, > > The KX3, KX2, and K3/K3S should have virtually the same keying > bandwidth. They all use the same raised-cosine keying envelope shape, > and this is by far the dominant factor unless the transmit final > amplifier is being overdriven. > > We looked at this in independent reviews and our in-house plots. The > keying BW looks pretty much the same on all three rigs. The 100 W K3 > may be a tiny bit better, but there's nowhere near "twice" the > difference. > > The K3S (or K3 with KSYN3A upgrade) does have the edge in composite, > wide-band transmit phase noise. RMDR for the K3S (or K3+KSYNA) is > roughly the same. > > Wayne > > From kd6qzx at sbcglobal.net Tue May 31 20:34:01 2016 From: kd6qzx at sbcglobal.net (KD6QZX) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 17:34:01 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Mount Bracket In-Reply-To: <0eba01d1bb83$7f1b9900$7d52cb00$@gmail.com> References: <0eba01d1bb83$7f1b9900$7d52cb00$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <141738073.2072727.1464741042155.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Larry I will have one that works great in just a few weeks.? look at some posting on my web site. GEMS Home Page? | ? | | ? | | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | | GEMS Home PageI am Scott AK6Q. | | | | View on www.gemsproducts... | Preview by Yahoo | | | | ? | Scott AK6Q On Tuesday, May 31, 2016 2:31 PM, Larry D. Warner [via Elecraft] wrote: Does anyone have a good mounting bracket for the KX3? ?I want to mount it to a pole in my 2006 Expedition so need a bracket from the KX3 to the pole. ?I don't have the pole yet so if you have a pole you like, please tell me what that is as well. ? Regards, ? Larry KG7ZSB ? You cannot live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you. ? ? ? ? ? ? -- John Wooden ? ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-Mount-Bracket-tp7618297.html To unsubscribe from Elecraft, click here. NAML ----- K3 #348 KX3 #2499 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-Mount-Bracket-tp7618297p7618307.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From lists at subich.com Tue May 31 20:37:46 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 20:37:46 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5beb129d-702f-9f13-6621-bc366a2f92fe@subich.com> > I use the aux out on my SignaLink USB to go to my powered speakers. I > can hear simultaneously what I'm decoding using the built in sound > card. I found this is the easiest to do and requires nothing other > than invoking the digital software I use, no cable changes. Yes, you can use a "splitter" and amplified speakers to connect both the sound card and headphones while maintaining separate audio levels but that should not be necessary. Similarly, one can connect the microphone to the computer (sound card) and use the sound card's mute/select switches and analog monitor (if available) to switch between mic and line sources but again it should not be necessary. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/31/2016 3:26 PM, Barry LaZar wrote: > Joe, > I use the aux out on my SignaLink USB to go to my powered speakers. > I can hear simultaneously what I'm decoding using the built in sound > card. I found this is the easiest to do and requires nothing other than > invoking the digital software I use, no cable changes. There is one > exception, the mic input is used for input from the SignaLink. This very > same path is used for non-digital modes. > > If I go voice contesting I can switch over to my Heil Pro headset > with mic and use a foot switch. I would do the same whether I used a > KX2, KX3, or K3. In fact, I did the same when I used my Orion II. > > I use my KX3 for contesting, both as a base with the matching > KXPA100 or QRP on Field Day. I find that the radio is as competitive and > as any radio used for SOAB; the limitations in my scoring is operator > and not radio. > > My experience in contesting, seriously, is not the KX3, but some of > the really poor signals and poor operation of the other stations. For > instance, the key clicks from Yeasu rigs are a real pain if the station > is strong. And, our local power company is the other limitation. > > 73, > Barry > K3NDM > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Sent: 5/31/2016 2:41:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX-3 > >> >>> If I could get rid of the pauses, I could use the K3s built-in USB >>> sound card. The KX3 doesn't have one, so I'd need an external audio >>> interface or sound card if I wanted total voice automation with that >>> rig. >> >> Unfortunately, since the KX3 (and KX2) lack dedicated Line In/Ln Out >> jacks, interfacing headphones and a mic at the same time as a sound >> card for DVK and/or RTTY/PSK is nearly impossible. That significantly >> limits the suitability of the KX3 (and KX2) as a serious contest rig >> even if one discounts the 20 dB *higher* transmit phase noise of the >> KX3 (comparison of composite noise test data of K3/100 [Feb 2009 > >> 1 KHz.] vs. KX3 [Dec 2012]) or nearly double the keying bandwidth at >> 60 WPM of the KX3 vs. K3 (same two product reviews). >> >> The K3 is cleaner at 1 KW than the barefoot KX3. >> >> 73, >> >> ... Joe, W4TV >> >> >> On 5/31/2016 11:58 AM, Mike Dodd wrote: >>> On 5/31/2016 11:40 AM, Mike Kasrich wrote: >>>> Has anyone put together a KX-3 kit. Is any more or less involved that >>>> putting together a K-3? >>> >>> I assembled both. The K3 is more involved than the KX3, but both were >>> straightforward. The instructions and parts lists are top-notch for both >>> rigs. >>> >>>> Anyone use a KX-3 in a contest and interfaced >>>> with N1MM+? Any quirks/tips? >>> >>> Yes to both. Both play very well with N1MM+. I haven't noticed any >>> quirks. On SSB contests with non-variable exchanges (i.e., no serial >>> number), I recorded messages in the KX3's two DVR memories. This allowed >>> me to operate in one mode (e.g., S&P or run), but I needed more DVR >>> memories to record messages for the opposite mode. The K3s has more DVR >>> memories, so I expect to be able to use four of them. >>> >>> I did NOT record .wav files and play them through the rig for total >>> voice automation. I don't like the typical pause between spoken letters >>> and numerals. W....1....A....W FIVE NINE >>> NUMBER....THREE....SEVEN....TWO >>> >>> If I could get rid of the pauses, I could use the K3s built-in USB sound >>> card. The KX3 doesn't have one, so I'd need an external audio interface >>> or sound card if I wanted total voice automation with that rig. >>> >>> My KX3 currently is in storage, and is not for sale. >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k3ndm at comcast.net > > From mzilmer at roadrunner.com Tue May 31 20:37:50 2016 From: mzilmer at roadrunner.com (Matt Zilmer) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 17:37:50 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Mount Bracket In-Reply-To: <1464740989359-7618306.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <0eba01d1bb83$7f1b9900$7d52cb00$@gmail.com> <1464740989359-7618306.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <469f3a25-22b3-e651-36fd-5dc4c85c2585@roadrunner.com> Same here. It works quite well and has rear hole centers for the AMPS pattern (ball-mount). 73, matt W6NIA On 5/31/2016 5:29 PM, WD4SDC wrote: > Larry, > > I used this to do a KX3 dash mount, but it may also work using a pole mount: > > http://www.gpscity.com/ram-mount-plastic-universal-finger-grip-clamping-cradle.html > > It "finger grips" the radio. I've had it in an out of the car on almost a > daily basis (because I can't be without my KX3 ;) ) and it has worked > great! > > 73's > > Steve > WD4SDC. > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-Mount-Bracket-tp7618297p7618306.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to mzilmer at roadrunner.com -- Always store beer in a dark place. - R. Heinlein From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue May 31 20:41:39 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 17:41:39 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Power On/Off In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <23cb6b92-e996-e2af-123b-565df32cb96e@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Tue,5/31/2016 4:22 AM, john at kk9a.com wrote: > How do you save the current settings? I think most of us at some point in > our lives have had a power failure while operating. Turn the K3 off with its power switch and turn it back on. You will, of course, have to do that each time you change settings. :) 73, Jim From n6kr at elecraft.com Tue May 31 21:11:33 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 18:11:33 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking more field testers for the new KX2 firmware release Message-ID: <26CAE64A-A9D2-463C-8925-8CB6C6D14F1D@elecraft.com> Hi all, We could use a few more current KX2 owners to load the new code. Have to make sure I haven't fixed what wasn't broken. To load firmware, you'll need to install KX2 Utility on a PC, Mac, etc. Please contact me off-list. tnx Wayne N6KR From john at kk9a.com Tue May 31 22:09:29 2016 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 22:09:29 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Power On/Off Message-ID: <006301d1bbaa$a1e0be30$e5a23a90$@com> I ask this because during my second contest ever with my new K3S and I had two power failures. So it goes back to the state that it was in when last properly shut off - That works for me! John KK9A Jim Brown jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue May 31 20:41:39 EDT 2016 ] On Tue,5/31/2016 4:22 AM, john at kk9a.com wrote: > How do you save the current settings? I think most of us at some point in > our lives have had a power failure while operating. Turn the K3 off with its power switch and turn it back on. You will, of course, have to do that each time you change settings. :) 73, Jim From donwilh at embarqmail.com Tue May 31 22:37:02 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 22:37:02 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Power On/Off In-Reply-To: <23cb6b92-e996-e2af-123b-565df32cb96e@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <23cb6b92-e996-e2af-123b-565df32cb96e@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <2196257d-bf26-764d-2601-2cbad0e8f84b@embarqmail.com> The K3 (K3S) can also be turned off safely (and store the current settings) by using the PS0 command - see the Programmer's Reference. That command cannot be used to turn it on (there is no power to the K3), so the POWER_ON pin in the ACC connector can be pulled low by an external device. If you simply pull power, the current settings will not be saved, and could result in having to reload the firmware to get it going again. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/31/2016 8:41 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > On Tue,5/31/2016 4:22 AM, john at kk9a.com wrote: >> How do you save the current settings? I think most of us at some >> point in >> our lives have had a power failure while operating. > > Turn the K3 off with its power switch and turn it back on. You will, > of course, have to do that each time you change settings. :) > From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue May 31 22:40:21 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 19:40:21 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Power On/Off In-Reply-To: <006301d1bbaa$a1e0be30$e5a23a90$@com> References: <006301d1bbaa$a1e0be30$e5a23a90$@com> Message-ID: On Tue,5/31/2016 7:09 PM, john at kk9a.com wrote: > I ask this because during my second contest ever with my new K3S and I had > two power failures. So it goes back to the state that it was in when last > properly shut off - That works for me! I run all the 12V gear in my shack from batteries, so the only time my K3 loses power is when I do something dumb. 73, Jim From donwilh at embarqmail.com Tue May 31 22:50:29 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 22:50:29 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Power On/Off In-Reply-To: <23cb6b92-e996-e2af-123b-565df32cb96e@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <23cb6b92-e996-e2af-123b-565df32cb96e@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: I forgot to add that if you permanently connect the ACC POWER_ON pin to ground, you will not be able to turn the K3 off with the PS0 command. It may glitch to a power off state, but will come back on almost immediately. 73, Don W3FPR -------------------------------------------------------------- The K3 (K3S) can also be turned off safely (and store the current settings) by using the PS0 command - see the Programmer's Reference. That command cannot be used to turn it on (there is no power to the K3), so the POWER_ON pin in the ACC connector can be pulled low by an external device. If you simply pull power, the current settings will not be saved, and could result in having to reload the firmware to get it going again. 73, Don W3FPR From riese-k3djc at juno.com Tue May 31 23:21:03 2016 From: riese-k3djc at juno.com (riese-k3djc at juno.com) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 23:21:03 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Power On/Off Message-ID: I used to just cut power,, but the K3 really didnt like that but I got away with it,,,, always turn off before cutting power Bob K3DJC On Tue, 31 May 2016 22:37:02 -0400 Don Wilhelm writes: > The K3 (K3S) can also be turned off safely (and store the current > settings) by using the PS0 command - see the Programmer's > Reference. > That command cannot be used to turn it on (there is no power to the > K3), > so the POWER_ON pin in the ACC connector can be pulled low by an > external device. > > If you simply pull power, the current settings will not be saved, > and > could result in having to reload the firmware to get it going > again. > > 73, > Don W3FPR