[Elecraft] Icom 7300 is available

[Barry N1EU]

Yes, and a Flex 6700's ADC evidently didn't crumble in the big signal
jungle on topband and garnered #1 USA (assisted/unlimited) in the recent CQ
WW 160M CW contest.

73, Barry N1EU

On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 5:56 PM, dave <ho13dave at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> The observation I would make on this is that the poor performing Icoms
> were good enough to capture all 3 of the top positions in the recent WRTC.
> IIRC there was one Elecraft and 5 Icoms used by the top 3 teams.
>
> I don't want to read too much into that, op skills play heavily in the
> results. And luck plays a role as well. But nonetheless, even though the
> 'numbers' of the Icoms are not all that good, they appear to be 'good
> enough'.
>
> They do have too much TX noise. But then nearly all rigs have too much TX
> noise.
>
> My view is that the top-of-the-line rigs are serious overkill for nearly
> all hams.
>
> Even the lowly FT-857, which is no ones idea of a 'contest rig', did
> surprisingly well in the hands of two very good ops. This was back in the
> WRTC in 2010. Their pair of K3's were wiped out by lightning. They lost an
> hour of op time while swapping rigs but still finished about 35th out of
> 50. At the end of that lost hour they were dead last, but then climbed back
> up the list. So I think the evidence indicates that even under the
> demanding condx of a contest a lot of rigs are good enough to be
> competitive. Guys should spend less on rigs and more on antennas. Or maybe
> spend that extra $$$ on beer and women . . .
>
> 73 de dave
>
>
>
> On 3/2/16 11:09 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
>>
>> On 3/2/2016 11:49 AM, lstavenhagen wrote:
>>
>>> I don't doubt at all that Icom's high end rigs are good rigs with
>>> good performance, but the K3 and K3S at the core of the Elecraft
>>> investment still far outperform them for less money. For me anyway,
>>> Icoms offer nothing comparable to the K line at the upper end of the
>>> $ range, not even close.
>>>
>>
>> If you look at test data from both Sherwood and ARRL, I don't believe
>> you can consider any of the Icom rigs (ProIII, 7600, 7700, 7800) to
>> be "high performance" (I'm holding judgement until I see test data
>> on the 7851).  In all cases, phase noise and 2 KHz IMDDR3 are barely
>> adequate with 2 KHz IMDDR3 between 70 and 80 dB and phase noise in
>> the 125 - 130 dBc/Hz range 10 KHz from carrier.
>>
>> Those numbers put Icom's top of the line rigs behind well known "High
>> performance" rigs like the Flex-1500 and Yaesu FTdx3000!
>>
>> 73,
>>
>>    ... Joe, W4TV
>>
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