[Elecraft] Fw: Re: New products
riese-k3djc at juno.com
riese-k3djc at juno.com
Mon Jun 6 18:58:47 EDT 2016
I want to talk about the best mike to use wit my K3
Bob K3DJC
n Mon, 6 Jun 2016 17:12:05 -0500 "Terry Schieler" <w0fm at swbell.net>
writes:
> Apparently so, Bob. Hard to believe this many Elecrafters were
> absent when we beat this "Touch Screen" dead horse to death three
> weeks ago. ;o)
>
> Terry, W0FM
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: riese-k3djc at juno.com [mailto:riese-k3djc at juno.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 8:08 AM
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: Re: New products
>
>
> >
> this is going to go on for a while isnt it
>
> Bob K3DJC
>
>
>
> I have a new car with Touchscreen controls. When the engine is off,
> I see all the finger marks. Ugh. No touchscreen for me.
>
> 73,
> Ron, K5HM
> k5hm.ron at gmail.com
> www.qrz.com/db/k5hm
>
> Excelsior!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf
> Of Jerry More
> Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 9:06 PM
> To: John <jkramer at iafrica.com>; n5ge at n5ge.com
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products
>
> Oh,, and I wanted to point out that if you are using a computer with
> CAT then most software packages allow you to operate with keyboard
> shortcuts to QSY, tune up, tune down, change modes, filters..etc..
> all up to your imagination depending on the software and your
> needs.
> Jer
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Jerry Moore
> Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 5:05 PM
> To: John; n5ge at n5ge.com
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products
>
> Adding $100 or more to add a touchscreen ui to a radio provides very
> little value in my view, is silly. The radio cost to value ratio is
> very low (meaning the value is high). The only exception I can see
> would be integrating the P3 as an option (hopefully enhancing with a
> micro computer/ssd for logging, digital, extended macros...etc,
> basically what I'm doing now with a raspberry pi).
>
> So that is if the cost is comparable to getting the P3.
>
> Without the features of the P3 integrated; who changes settings so
> often that the included programmable macro buttons aren't enough?
>
> On June 5, 2016 4:35:26 PM EDT, John <jkramer at iafrica.com> wrote:
> Ha, Elecraft needs to progress at some stage, or get left behind.
>
> Touch screen UI is and has been extensively used - 3 billion touch
> screen smart phones out there, 1.2 billion touch screen tablets. I
> can see you all reaching for your keyboards to protest that phones
> and tablets are not the same thing. Well, touch screen UI have also
> moved over to commercial products, the military and airline pilots
> also use touch screen UI communication devices. If they are good
> enough to be used on commercial aircraft and in military
> applications, then it sure is good enough for ham radio.
> Touch screen UI panels having become so prolific, that they have
> dropped the cost enormously, resolution is picture sharp and
> reliability is extremely good.
> Touch screens have huge potential, and almost unlimited versatility.
> If you need more knobs or buttons on your rig, due to new features
> having been added no problem with a touch screen.
> Just a firmware update to add a knob, button, slider or meter onto
> the screen.
> The problem with conventional rigs, is you run out of physical knobs
> and buttons when features are added to the radio. I see this in my
> KX3 - some knobs have three functions, and to try and remember what
> each knobs second or third function does, becomes difficult.
>
> Food for thought :-)
>
> 73
> John
>
>
>
>
> On 5 Jun 2016, at 10:13 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
> <n5ge at n5ge.com>
> wrote:
>
> Don,
>
> I suspect that having redesigned a rig with touch screen capability
> the manufacturer would, in a short period of time realize the error
> of their ways. Hopfully they would still have enough capital to
> revert to the original design and fire the person responsible for
> the change.
>
> On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:37:42 -0400, you wrote:
> Lynn,
>
> Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for
> blind operators.
> Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their
> radios with those blind operators particularly in mind.
> A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
> A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future
> upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things
> on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally
> released.
>
> Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more
> flexible than a silk-screened metal panel.
>
> I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's
> really time to lighten up, folks.
>
> Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of
> "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the
> firmware grows to need them.
>
> On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
> Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the
> touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch
>
>
>
>
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