From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 00:23:47 2016 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 07:23:47 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Power On/Off In-Reply-To: <23cb6b92-e996-e2af-123b-565df32cb96e@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <23cb6b92-e996-e2af-123b-565df32cb96e@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: Doesn't the K3 automatically save settings every so often via a timer? So it would only revert to an earlier state if the power fails 'shortly' after making a change. Vic 4X6GP > On 1 Jun 2016, at 3:41 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > >> On Tue,5/31/2016 4:22 AM, john at kk9a.com wrote: >> How do you save the current settings? I think most of us at some point in >> our lives have had a power failure while operating. > > Turn the K3 off with its power switch and turn it back on. You will, of course, have to do that each time you change settings. :) > > 73, Jim > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2vco.vic at gmail.com From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jun 1 03:26:09 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 08:26:09 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] TX Noise Gate on KX3 kills VOX delay setting In-Reply-To: <52A6280B-DB4A-4607-AD1D-C525A0FFD6BE@yahoo.co.uk> References: <62A9A166-D3E4-4C42-918C-10DF06F1377D@mac.com> <52A6280B-DB4A-4607-AD1D-C525A0FFD6BE@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: Michael, Did you hear back from Elecraft on the noise Gate VOX delay bug? 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 2 May 2016, at 20:45, David Anderson wrote: > > Thanks Michael, let us know when you hear anything back from them. > > I wonder if the same thing happens with a K3? > > 73 from David GM4JJJ > >> On 2 May 2016, at 18:41, Michael Blake wrote: >> >> I only received two customer responses and they both confirmed what I am seeing on my KX3. I have forwarded the issue as a ?bug? to Elecraft support. >> >> Michael Blake >> k9jri at mac.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Apr 30, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Michael Blake wrote: >>> >>> Has anyone else noticed this TX Noise Gate versus VOX Delay setting interaction? >>> >>> Michael Blake >>> k9jri at mac.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Apr 29, 2016, at 7:08 PM, Michael Blake wrote: >>>> >>>> When the TX Noise Gate is set to ?On? with any gate level more than ?00? the VOX delay setting is ignored and the VOX drops out immediately. Is this by design? >>>> >>>> I am using MCU version 2.34 and DSP version 1.33 >>>> >>>> Michael Blake >>>> k9jri at mac.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to k9jri at mac.com >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to k9jri at mac.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk From david at g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk Wed Jun 1 04:24:05 2016 From: david at g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk (David Pratt) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:24:05 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] DTMF tone support on the K3 Message-ID: Do you know whether there is any progress on this, Lyle? I have been struggling with a handheld DTMF device, held close to the K3 microphone for years! It is somewhat cumbersome and I look forward to the long awaited DTMF feature on the K3 which I think has been on the software list for years. I realize the KX3 has that feature, but unfortunately the output power of the KX3-2M module is just not sufficient to get me into my nearest Echolink repeater reliably. The K3 with its K144XV would be just fine. I could buy a Kencomsu rig specifically for the purpose but I would far prefer to use my trusted K3 than go to the opposition. 73 David G4DMP On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Lyle Johnson wrote: > Currently, use of a DTMF-equipped microphone or generating the tones > with an attached device. The K3 does not generate DTMF tones,although it > could in a future firmware enhancement. > > 73, > > Lyle KK7P > >> I've been trying to find if there is a way to do this but have been >> coming up blank... Is there a way to send DTMF tones with the K3? -- + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds. | | Website: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jun 1 09:01:16 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:01:16 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Noise Gate VOX delay BUG Message-ID: <8AB45C8B-7D9E-44B0-9367-7FFA78532ECA@yahoo.co.uk> A few weeks ago another ham in this list asked if anyone else had noticed a bug with the way that the KX3 handles VOX when the TX Noise gate is set to ON. With any gate level more than 00 the VOX delay setting is ignored and the VOX drops out immediately. I checked with my KX3 and indeed that is the case. I don't know if this is specific to the KX3, as I don't have a K3 or KX2. The other ham has reported this to Elecraft but has heard no more on the matter. My question is, can this be fixed in firmware or is there some limitation that prevents the VOX delay from working with the TX Noise gate? Many thanks, 73 from David GM4JJJ From rssutton9 at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 09:31:19 2016 From: rssutton9 at gmail.com (R Stanley Sutton) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:31:19 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] DTMF Tones on the K3 Message-ID: I add my vote to getting this done on the K3. Stan KD8KBX From john at kk9a.com Wed Jun 1 09:35:02 2016 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:35:02 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and Microham Digikeyer 2 and N1MM Message-ID: Are you using the MicroHAM K3 cables? Did you set the internal jumpers inside the DigiKeyerII? You need to set the radio baud and the router baud to the same setting. I use 38,400. The frequency should display in the router software, if not it will not show up in N1MM either. John KK9A From: Ross ZL1WN Tue May 31 20:17:01 EDT 2016 I am setting up my K3 with N1MM, so far I have the K3 transmitting and receiving on RTTY, using the Microham. But my problem is The router and N1mm are not seeing the K3 to report the frequency etc. Can someone please let me know what settings in the router and N1MM will ensure that they talk to each other. Or just the settings in N1MM that will allow it to talk to the K3. Thanks Ross ZL1WN From lists at subich.com Wed Jun 1 10:03:54 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:03:54 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] DTMF Tones on the K3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54ea696f-f1e0-a750-d0b6-81b823719e43@subich.com> Pick up a Kenwood MC-48, move the brown wire from pin 5 to pin 5 in the mic connector and be done with it. Overloading the K3/K3S front panel buttons with yet a *third* function is a recipe for disaster. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 6/1/2016 9:31 AM, R Stanley Sutton wrote: > I add my vote to getting this done on the K3. > > Stan KD8KBX > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to lists at subich.com > From donwilh at embarqmail.com Wed Jun 1 10:13:35 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:13:35 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] DTMF Tones on the K3 In-Reply-To: <54ea696f-f1e0-a750-d0b6-81b823719e43@subich.com> References: <54ea696f-f1e0-a750-d0b6-81b823719e43@subich.com> Message-ID: <154008e6-3162-f134-7930-c55bb72e6877@embarqmail.com> I agree with Joe, but there is a typo - the brown wire should end up on pin 6. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/1/2016 10:03 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > > Pick up a Kenwood MC-48, move the brown wire from pin 5 to pin 5 in the > mic connector and be done with it. > > Overloading the K3/K3S front panel buttons with yet a *third* function > is a recipe for disaster. > From jim.gmforum at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 12:31:45 2016 From: jim.gmforum at gmail.com (Jim GM) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:31:45 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Dilemma Message-ID: Hi It not like me if I do not make a suggestion. or complain. This radio has every thing you want in the field. The most important spot for this radio is on a tap of a half barrel on Field Day. Any have an attachment for this? Cheers! -- Jim K9TF From wk6i.jeff at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 13:01:56 2016 From: wk6i.jeff at gmail.com (Jeff Stai) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:01:56 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Dilemma In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Jim GM wrote: > The most important spot for this radio is on a tap of a half barrel on > Field Day. Any have an attachment for this? > It depends a little on what's in the barrel, but I expect there are a few of us that could home brew something. ;) 73 jeff wk6i -- Jeff Stai ~ wk6i.jeff at gmail.com Twisted Oak Winery ~ http://www.twistedoak.com/ Facebook ~ http://www.facebook.com/twistedoak From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jun 1 14:32:05 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 19:32:05 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 4m transverter specification on spurious outputs? Message-ID: I have just fitted a 4m internal transverter into my KX3 today. I wanted to check the signal stability and quality on a load before putting it on the air, and used my SDR as a spectrum analyser to examine the output. I have used this SDR in the past for examine other transmitters so know it's limitations and strengths. Here are my observations so far: 1) There is on frequency carrier leakage from the receiver. This isn't a big deal, and is explained in the manual. 2) When in transmit on SSB or CW with no keying or audio input, there are a forest of spurs close to the operating frequency, they are independent of the power setting. Perhaps 50 dB or less down on PEP. This is concerning. I will do more accurate tests. 3) When modulated there are products either side of the main signal that do vary with modulation. They are again not very many dB down. This is very concerning. 4) I tried a transmission at 3W for a couple of minutes, and the PA temperature quickly rose to the cut off point. Yes, I have tightened the screw on the PA to the side wall. This will be a problem if using the rig on high duty cycle modes like JT65. The PA of the transverter is a FET bolted to the side wall of the KX3 and does not directly make use of any third party heatsink that may be bolted to the top. 5) Mysteriously a couple of times I have seen a High SWR warning briefly at start of transmission. On the positive side the frequency stability is acceptable for SSB and CW. It may even be for JT65 or FSK441. I have not found any specification for the spectral purity of the 4m transverter, so don't know if this is what Elecraft expect or not. It certainly isn't up to my standards for a commercial amateur transmitter and I wouldn't subject my friends to such a signal on the air. The only thing in the installation manual that was unclear is the exact routing of the LO cable from the RF board to the transverter by the heatsink and the filter board and battery holder. I suppose there is a small possibility that the routing of that cable may affect the levels of Spurs on the signal. I may try some small adjustments and see. I was going to build a medium (30 W) or high power (150 W) amplifier for the transverter, but clearly I would not like to amplify a signal as impure as this. My plans for 4m have now changed to an IC7300, and I may keep the KX3 4m transverter as a backup or for portable work with QRP. If anybody else has tested their 4m or 2m internal transverter for spectral quality I would be interested in their comments. 73 from David GM4JJJ From pmuscian at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 1 15:03:55 2016 From: pmuscian at sbcglobal.net (Paula Uscian) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:03:55 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Message-ID: <036001d1bc38$590204b0$0b060e10$@sbcglobal.net> Mike, as noted in an earlier post, the KX3 is quite a bit quicker to assemble. I have my KX3 interfaced with N1MM+ through a 7" Win8.1 tablet with 1GB RAM and 32GB storage (the tablet has a single USB port). I use a Targus BT keyboard that runs on a AAA battery. By using the KY commands for the F keys in N1MM+, you can avoid needing to use an interface like a WinKeyer; see the info at https://k4mtx.wordpress.com/2013/06/02/kx3-how-to-configure-n1mm-to-use-func tion-keys-to-send-cw-without-additional-cables-or-hardware-like-winkeyer/ and associated links. I used this setup briefly over this past weekend in the CQ WPX CW contest with a SOTA Beams portable fiberglass mast and an LNR 20-30-40 antenna, and it worked well. 73 Paula k9ir From n7xy at n7xy.net Wed Jun 1 15:04:27 2016 From: n7xy at n7xy.net (Bob Nielsen) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 12:04:27 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Dilemma In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <753213ab-ce19-1e80-e900-9c0d54e694d5@n7xy.net> On 6/1/16 10:01 AM, Jeff Stai wrote: > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Jim GM wrote: > >> The most important spot for this radio is on a tap of a half barrel on >> Field Day. Any have an attachment for this? >> > It depends a little on what's in the barrel, but I expect there are a few > of us that could home brew something. ;) > > 73 jeff wk6i > > Years ago I heard of the term "antenna oil". It was typically supplied during a tower raising party but would work equally as well on field day. 73, Bob N7XY From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jun 1 15:15:38 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:15:38 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 4m transverter specification on spurious outputs? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <630264C7-CCF6-4E60-80C8-F897B3DCFA67@yahoo.co.uk> Some better news, actual a lot better news, after reviewing my test setup, I discovered that my SDR was overloaded, and the products at 20 kHz either side on SSB were IMD in the SDR, they vanished by using less gain in the SDR. The other spikes which contain no modulation are about 76 dB down on the wanted signal, an awful lot better than I had measured earlier. They are at about 12 kHz spacing and must be some DC - DC converter noise I guess. On transmit on CW with no key down there are no sign of those spikes. They only appear when the key is down or in SSB irrespective of mic audio. So things are looking perfectly OK as regards purity at least for a low power rig. I still wouldn't put this into an amplifier however. The heat sinking issue with the PA is another matter, fortunately I don't use FM or AM, and FSK may not work anyway as the stability may not be sufficient, though it looks not too bad. Let me be the first to apologise for my hasty review based on hurried and unscientific testing on my part. I clearly was in a panic having looked forward to getting this transverter and then sing what appeared to be major problems with its purity. The acid test will be on air testing with a close neighbour to see if they notice any problems. I don't have my yagi installed yet, so that will have to wait. 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 1 Jun 2016, at 19:32, David Anderson via Elecraft wrote: > > I have just fitted a 4m internal transverter into my KX3 today. I wanted to check the signal stability and quality on a load before putting it on the air, and used my SDR as a spectrum analyser to examine the output. I have used this SDR in the past for examine other transmitters so know it's limitations and strengths. > > Here are my observations so far: > > 1) There is on frequency carrier leakage from the receiver. This isn't a big deal, and is explained in the manual. > > 2) When in transmit on SSB or CW with no keying or audio input, there are a forest of spurs close to the operating frequency, they are independent of the power setting. Perhaps 50 dB or less down on PEP. This is concerning. I will do more accurate tests. > > 3) When modulated there are products either side of the main signal that do vary with modulation. They are again not very many dB down. This is very concerning. > > 4) I tried a transmission at 3W for a couple of minutes, and the PA temperature quickly rose to the cut off point. Yes, I have tightened the screw on the PA to the side wall. This will be a problem if using the rig on high duty cycle modes like JT65. The PA of the transverter is a FET bolted to the side wall of the KX3 and does not directly make use of any third party heatsink that may be bolted to the top. > > 5) Mysteriously a couple of times I have seen a High SWR warning briefly at start of transmission. > > On the positive side the frequency stability is acceptable for SSB and CW. It may even be for JT65 or FSK441. > > I have not found any specification for the spectral purity of the 4m transverter, so don't know if this is what Elecraft expect or not. It certainly isn't up to my standards for a commercial amateur transmitter and I wouldn't subject my friends to such a signal on the air. > > The only thing in the installation manual that was unclear is the exact routing of the LO cable from the RF board to the transverter by the heatsink and the filter board and battery holder. I suppose there is a small possibility that the routing of that cable may affect the levels of Spurs on the signal. I may try some small adjustments and see. > > I was going to build a medium (30 W) or high power (150 W) amplifier for the transverter, but clearly I would not like to amplify a signal as impure as this. My plans for 4m have now changed to an IC7300, and I may keep the KX3 4m transverter as a backup or for portable work with QRP. > > If anybody else has tested their 4m or 2m internal transverter for spectral quality I would be interested in their comments. > > 73 from David GM4JJJ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk From david at g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk Wed Jun 1 15:56:35 2016 From: david at g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk (David Pratt) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:56:35 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] DTMF Tones on the K3 In-Reply-To: <154008e6-3162-f134-7930-c55bb72e6877@embarqmail.com> References: <54ea696f-f1e0-a750-d0b6-81b823719e43@subich.com> <154008e6-3162-f134-7930-c55bb72e6877@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: Many thanks, Joe and Don, for that useful information which I shall keep in mind. I would, however, like to continue using my D104 microphone with which I receive outstanding good quality reports. 73 de David G4DMP In a recent message, Don Wilhelm writes >I agree with Joe, but there is a typo - the brown wire should end up on >pin 6. > >73, >Don W3FPR > >On 6/1/2016 10:03 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: >> >> Pick up a Kenwood MC-48, move the brown wire from pin 5 to pin 5 in the >> mic connector and be done with it. -- + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds. | | Website: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + From matt.vk2rq at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 16:06:26 2016 From: matt.vk2rq at gmail.com (Matt Maguire) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:06:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX2 Bone Head Mistake pure and simple... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not ordering a charger from Elecraft is an oversight, easily corrected. Ripping out protection circuitry from a Li Ion battery is a bonehead mistake :-) 73, Matt VK2RQ _____________________________ From: Phil Townsend Lontz philji at mac.com [KX3] Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 3:27 AM Subject: [KX3] KX2 Bone Head Mistake pure and simple... To: Wayne Burdick Cc: Elecraft Reflector , , Scott Dupuie ? So,I bought a KX2, a battery and an ATU... All working FB. But did I buy a battery charger??? Well, no, I have battery chargers in fact a bunch all designed to charge a wide variety of LION or LIPO or nicads lead acid or Nickle metal? etc. But I cant charge the Elecraft Battery. It seems that to charge the battery one needs the Elecraft Battery charger. I did not buy the Elecraft Charger... Bonehead MISTAKE.? So the question is.... How to charge that battery?Must I strip out all of the protection to charge it or is there a simple way around? Thank You PhilK5SSRSanta Fe, NM What Me Worry??? __._,_.___ Posted by: Phil Townsend Lontz Reply via web post ? Reply to sender ? Reply to group ? Start a New Topic ? Messages in this topic (1) Have you tried the highest rated email app? With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. Visit Your Group New Members 95 ? Privacy ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use . __,_._,___ From w7ox at socal.rr.com Wed Jun 1 16:53:20 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 13:53:20 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX2 Bone Head Mistake pure and simple... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <88987ec0-be39-96a5-df08-fbfb03d1e35e@socal.rr.com> Hi, Phil -- Well, you could buy the charger -- and operate off an external supply (like some battery, even!) while you wait for it ;-) 73, Phil W7OX On 6/1/16 10:27 AM, Phil Townsend Lontz philji at mac.com [KX3] wrote: > So,I bought a KX2, a battery and an ATU... All > working FB. But did I buy a battery charger??? > Well, no, I have battery chargers in fact a > bunch all designed to charge a wide variety of > LION or LIPO or nicads lead acid or Nickle > metal etc. But I cant charge the Elecraft Battery. > It seems that to charge the battery one needs > the Elecraft Battery charger. I did not buy the > Elecraft Charger... Bonehead MISTAKE. > > So the question is.... How to charge that battery? > Must I strip out all of the protection to charge > it or is there a simple way around? > > Thank You > > Phil > K5SSR > Santa Fe, NM > From kengkopp at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 16:54:21 2016 From: kengkopp at gmail.com (Ken G Kopp) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:54:21 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] K, KX radio's and DTMF tones In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For what seemingly is a relatively small number of FM users, DTMF tones are easily achieved with a DTMF pad-equipped microphone, and that would seem to be much better than complicating the already "busy" push-button operation. I'm probably missing something ..... 73 From ny9h at arrl.net Wed Jun 1 17:19:11 2016 From: ny9h at arrl.net (Bill Steffey NY9H) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 17:19:11 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Power On/Off In-Reply-To: References: <23cb6b92-e996-e2af-123b-565df32cb96e@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: since there IS something in the K3, looking for that power button press, could not also look for a double hit on some unused serial line ??? That the remote software could employ? i have had my k3 turned off while remoting,.,,, multi times... once i called home and my wife gladly turned it back on... she said 'Oh you mean the radio I just turned off.....'. From ac5p at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 1 17:36:26 2016 From: ac5p at sbcglobal.net (ac5p at sbcglobal.net) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 21:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX2 Bone Head Mistake pure and simple... In-Reply-To: <88987ec0-be39-96a5-df08-fbfb03d1e35e@socal.rr.com> References: <88987ec0-be39-96a5-df08-fbfb03d1e35e@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <1256196337.3420185.1464816986443.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Is KX2 somehow restricted to the KXBT2, 11V (3 cell?) battery pack??? I cant find DC input voltage range listed in the specifications on the Elecraft website.?? Thanks,? Mike? AC5P? On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 3:54 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: Hi, Phil -- Well, you could buy the charger -- and operate off an external supply (like some battery, even!) while you wait for it ;-) 73, Phil W7OX On 6/1/16 10:27 AM, Phil Townsend Lontz philji at mac.com [KX3] wrote: > So,I bought a KX2, a battery and an ATU... All > working FB. But did I buy a battery charger??? > Well, no, I have battery chargers in fact a > bunch all designed to charge a wide variety of > LION or LIPO or nicads lead acid or Nickle > metal? etc. But I cant charge the Elecraft Battery. > It seems that to charge the battery one needs > the Elecraft Battery charger. I did not buy the > Elecraft Charger... Bonehead MISTAKE. > > So the question is.... How to charge that battery? > Must I strip out all of the protection to charge > it or is there a simple way around? > > Thank You > > Phil > K5SSR > Santa Fe, NM > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net/ Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ac5p at sbcglobal.net From n7xy at n7xy.net Wed Jun 1 17:44:28 2016 From: n7xy at n7xy.net (Bob Nielsen) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:44:28 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX2 Bone Head Mistake pure and simple... In-Reply-To: <1256196337.3420185.1464816986443.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <88987ec0-be39-96a5-df08-fbfb03d1e35e@socal.rr.com> <1256196337.3420185.1464816986443.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <14cb95b5-eb78-be03-316f-f773f63a0cf9@n7xy.net> It can run from an external supply. Per the manual it takes 8-15v. 73, Bob N7XY On 6/1/16 2:36 PM, ac5p at sbcglobal.net wrote: > Is KX2 somehow restricted to the KXBT2, 11V (3 cell?) battery pack? I cant find DC input voltage range listed in the specifications on the Elecraft website. > Thanks, > Mike AC5P > > On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 3:54 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > > > Hi, Phil -- > > Well, you could buy the charger -- and operate off > an external supply (like some battery, even!) > while you wait for it ;-) > > 73, Phil W7OX > > On 6/1/16 10:27 AM, Phil Townsend Lontz > philji at mac.com [KX3] wrote: >> So,I bought a KX2, a battery and an ATU... All >> working FB. But did I buy a battery charger??? >> Well, no, I have battery chargers in fact a >> bunch all designed to charge a wide variety of >> LION or LIPO or nicads lead acid or Nickle >> metal etc. But I cant charge the Elecraft Battery. >> It seems that to charge the battery one needs >> the Elecraft Battery charger. I did not buy the >> Elecraft Charger... Bonehead MISTAKE. >> >> So the question is.... How to charge that battery? >> Must I strip out all of the protection to charge >> it or is there a simple way around? >> >> Thank You >> >> Phil >> K5SSR >> Santa Fe, NM >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net/ > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ac5p at sbcglobal.net > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n7xy at n7xy.net From ns9i2016 at Bayland.net Wed Jun 1 17:53:11 2016 From: ns9i2016 at Bayland.net ('DGB') Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 16:53:11 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Power On/Off In-Reply-To: <20160601211942.3DA3B149B467@mailman.qth.net> References: <23cb6b92-e996-e2af-123b-565df32cb96e@audiosystemsgroup.com> <20160601211942.3DA3B149B467@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: <500a0a3a-d3af-e4a9-9c85-65f2bc18abc1@Bayland.net> Very simple with Elecraft's hosting utility. 73 Dwight NS9I On 6/1/2016 4:19 PM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote: > since there IS something in the K3, looking for that power button press, > could not also look for a double hit on some unused serial line ??? > That the remote software could employ? > > > i have had my k3 turned off while remoting,.,,, multi times... > once i called home and my wife gladly turned it back on... > she said 'Oh you mean the radio I just turned off.....'. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ns9i2016 at bayland.net > > From nr4c at widomaker.com Wed Jun 1 19:05:55 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 19:05:55 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX2 Bone Head Mistake pure and simple... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: BUY THE $&@( ELECRAFT CHARGER! There, how simple is that? Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jun 1, 2016, at 1:27 PM, Phil Townsend Lontz philji at mac.com [KX3] wrote: > > So,I bought a KX2, a battery and an ATU... All working FB. But did I buy a battery charger??? Well, no, I have battery chargers in fact a bunch all designed to charge a wide variety of LION or LIPO or nicads lead acid or Nickle metal etc. But I cant charge the Elecraft Battery. > It seems that to charge the battery one needs the Elecraft Battery charger. I did not buy the Elecraft Charger... Bonehead MISTAKE. > > So the question is.... How to charge that battery? > Must I strip out all of the protection to charge it or is there a simple way around? > > Thank You > > Phil > K5SSR > Santa Fe, NM > > What Me Worry??? > __._,_.___ > Posted by: Phil Townsend Lontz > Reply via web post ? Reply to sender ? Reply to group ? Start a New Topic ? Messages in this topic (1) > > Have you tried the highest rated email app? > With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. > > VISIT YOUR GROUP New Members 95 > ? Privacy ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use > . > > > __,_._,___ From edwest at sisqtel.net Wed Jun 1 19:41:24 2016 From: edwest at sisqtel.net (Ed) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 16:41:24 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Power On/Off Ron Castro Message-ID: <701c94ce-909b-4618-9af4-1c2c72f72a63@sisqtel.net> What Don, W3FPR, Stated is the correct way to handle the power on/off function. Pulling power from the K3 without an orderly shut down is very risky and reloading the firmware and configuration files remotely could prove to be a chore. I use the macro to shut things down. After the shut down I then shut off the power supply. To power up I use a relay with an R/C time constant wired across the 12v power buss. When the power supply powers up this relay bumps pin 8 of the accessory socket with a ground pulse telling the K3 to power up. The pulse timing isn't anything close to critical. All this makes the 12v power control a little messy when dealing with remote control. Problem is, I haven't been able to come up with anything simpler. Some of the remote control program out there will issue the power down command to the K3 when you close the program, but not all of them do this. You still have to deal with powering up the K3. Ed, K6ED From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Wed Jun 1 19:41:35 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 18:41:35 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] DTMF Tones on the K3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6cb5330f-43e0-514e-c0b4-46df5523fc5c@mediacombb.net> I'm probably going to regret sending this and this is just my opinion. It seems to me using the K3 as a V/UHF FM rig is akin to using a Thoroughbred race horse to pull a manure spreader. Yeah....it'll do it but there are better tools to use. One thing the Japanese are better at is designing inexpensive, full featured V/UHF FM gear. K3 and my Yaesu FT-8900 sitting next to each other and I want to blah,blah,blah on the local repeater. The Yaesu will get used 99.9999995% of the time. Sorry Elecraft....you aren't even in the neighborhood on this one. On 6/1/2016 8:31 AM, R Stanley Sutton wrote: > I add my vote to getting this done on the K3. > > Stan KD8KBX > > > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From ken at arcomcontrollers.com Wed Jun 1 19:52:42 2016 From: ken at arcomcontrollers.com (Ken Arck) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 16:52:42 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] DTMF Tones on the K3 In-Reply-To: <6cb5330f-43e0-514e-c0b4-46df5523fc5c@mediacombb.net> References: <6cb5330f-43e0-514e-c0b4-46df5523fc5c@mediacombb.net> Message-ID: I bought my K3S/10 for use mostly with a 2 meter transverter for EME work and 6 meters (easily drives my LDMOS SSPA to 1 KW. My interest in HF is......passing Ken, AH6LE At 04:41 PM 6/1/2016, Kevin Stover wrote: >I'm probably going to regret sending this and this is just my opinion. > >It seems to me using the K3 as a V/UHF FM rig is akin to using a >Thoroughbred race horse to pull a manure spreader. >Yeah....it'll do it but there are better tools to use. >One thing the Japanese are better at is designing inexpensive, full >featured V/UHF FM gear. > >K3 and my Yaesu FT-8900 sitting next to each other and I want to >blah,blah,blah on the local repeater. The Yaesu will get used >99.9999995% of the time. >Sorry Elecraft....you aren't even in the neighborhood on this one. > >On 6/1/2016 8:31 AM, R Stanley Sutton wrote: >>I add my vote to getting this done on the K3. >> >>Stan KD8KBX >> >> > > >-- >R. 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From joel.b.black at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 20:31:56 2016 From: joel.b.black at gmail.com (Joel Black) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 19:31:56 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Carrier Null Message-ID: <6460D8B6-E429-4E5E-920A-D6A69EE31B22@gmail.com> I recently acquired a used PX3 and am quite pleased with it. I am, however, having a difficult time with the carrier null procedure. If memory serves, I had a problem trying to do the carrier null on an SDR I built five or six years ago too. I never could quite get the signal generator in the PX3 to get to -40. It stayed around -45. I did write everything down and did try to adjust the nulls but I?ve either got too much noise in the shack or I just don?t know what in the world I?m doing. Right now, I?m listening on 75 m and I can see the center carrier plus mirror images of each side of the carrier. The span is set to 50 kHz. Any certain way I?m supposed to ?hold my mouth? or ?stick out my tongue? while I do this? :) I?ll bring home a service monitor from work tomorrow and hope it tunes down as low as I need it to go. 73, Joel - W4JBB From nr4c at widomaker.com Wed Jun 1 20:40:04 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:40:04 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Carrier Null In-Reply-To: <6460D8B6-E429-4E5E-920A-D6A69EE31B22@gmail.com> References: <6460D8B6-E429-4E5E-920A-D6A69EE31B22@gmail.com> Message-ID: Please check that ALL connectors are plugged in ALL the way. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jun 1, 2016, at 8:31 PM, Joel Black wrote: > > I recently acquired a used PX3 and am quite pleased with it. I am, however, having a difficult time with the carrier null procedure. If memory serves, I had a problem trying to do the carrier null on an SDR I built five or six years ago too. > > I never could quite get the signal generator in the PX3 to get to -40. It stayed around -45. I did write everything down and did try to adjust the nulls but I?ve either got too much noise in the shack or I just don?t know what in the world I?m doing. > > Right now, I?m listening on 75 m and I can see the center carrier plus mirror images of each side of the carrier. The span is set to 50 kHz. > > Any certain way I?m supposed to ?hold my mouth? or ?stick out my tongue? while I do this? :) > > I?ll bring home a service monitor from work tomorrow and hope it tunes down as low as I need it to go. > > 73, > Joel - W4JBB > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From donwilh at embarqmail.com Wed Jun 1 20:47:59 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:47:59 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Carrier Null In-Reply-To: <6460D8B6-E429-4E5E-920A-D6A69EE31B22@gmail.com> References: <6460D8B6-E429-4E5E-920A-D6A69EE31B22@gmail.com> Message-ID: <82f8199c-e3b6-b775-3f90-39efbdaaa50b@embarqmail.com> Joel, Mirror images normally mean that only one channel of the I/Q outputs are being received by the PX3. Make certain the RX I/Q cables are fully plugged in (both ends). So rather than "holding your mouth right", try "holding your fingers right" to fully insert the plugs. Start over with the default settings after checking the cable and go from there. I doubt the service monitor will do much unless it tunes down to the low audio range. You can try plugging a set of amplified speakers into the KX3 RX I/Q to see if you get something in each channel, or if you want to get more exotic, use an audio spectrum analyzer that will display stereo channels and feed the RX I/Q to a computer soundcard. The 2 audio channels from the KX3 should be shown, but out of phase. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/1/2016 8:31 PM, Joel Black wrote: > I recently acquired a used PX3 and am quite pleased with it. I am, however, having a difficult time with the carrier null procedure. If memory serves, I had a problem trying to do the carrier null on an SDR I built five or six years ago too. > > I never could quite get the signal generator in the PX3 to get to -40. It stayed around -45. I did write everything down and did try to adjust the nulls but I?ve either got too much noise in the shack or I just don?t know what in the world I?m doing. > > Right now, I?m listening on 75 m and I can see the center carrier plus mirror images of each side of the carrier. The span is set to 50 kHz. > > Any certain way I?m supposed to ?hold my mouth? or ?stick out my tongue? while I do this? :) > From thelastdb at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 22:07:53 2016 From: thelastdb at gmail.com (Myron Schaffer) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 21:07:53 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] DTMF Tones on the K3 In-Reply-To: <6cb5330f-43e0-514e-c0b4-46df5523fc5c@mediacombb.net> References: <6cb5330f-43e0-514e-c0b4-46df5523fc5c@mediacombb.net> Message-ID: <574f94fa.47c50d0a.b9c07.ffff9fc0@mx.google.com> ?unless you are digging weak signals out of the moon using it as an IF rig. Never such as thing as too much performance in an IF rig. I can see why EME-ers just want a little bit more. One of my Elmers, Al, W0PUF and I participated in the 1995 ARRL EME Contest with a Scientific Atlanta 10m dish spec?d for 4 GHz and a TS-700SP/HB amp with a pair of 4CX250Bs with an Ameco Rx conveter with no pre-amp?and got five QSOs from the W0BLK Club station out near Ellsworth AFB in Box Elder, SD. Worked the big guns only, like Al, WB5LUA and KB8RQ to name two. Ah, memories?I remember when we were working on the feed in the bird bath mode and a flock of migrating Sand Hill cranes were going south for the winter in formation directly overhead. I was in the focal point of that 30 foot dish and told Al on my HT to watch the flock as I made some noise. So Al got out the door in time to hear me issue some vocal shotgun blasts, ?BOOM, BOOM, BOOM!? I shouted and be darned if they didn?t scatter?Awesome. They were way up there, like 10,000 feet maybe, who knows but I could hear them as if they were right there, trumpeting away. I miss Al. Myron WV0H Printed on Recycled Data From: Kevin Stover Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 6:44 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] DTMF Tones on the K3 I'm probably going to regret sending this and this is just my opinion. It seems to me using the K3 as a V/UHF FM rig is akin to using a Thoroughbred race horse to pull a manure spreader. Yeah....it'll do it but there are better tools to use. One thing the Japanese are better at is designing inexpensive, full featured V/UHF FM gear. K3 and my Yaesu FT-8900 sitting next to each other and I want to blah,blah,blah on the local repeater. The Yaesu will get used 99.9999995% of the time. Sorry Elecraft....you aren't even in the neighborhood on this one. On 6/1/2016 8:31 AM, R Stanley Sutton wrote: > I add my vote to getting this done on the K3. > > Stan KD8KBX > > > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to thelastdb at gmail.com From n6kr at elecraft.com Wed Jun 1 22:52:33 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 19:52:33 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Bone Head Mistake pure and simple... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <470588B4-AE50-40A5-81B3-39660A10BFBB@elecraft.com> Hi Phil, The only recommended charger for the KX2 is the one that is designed specifically for it. That's the KXBT2. Anything else might come with some risk. See the detailed information that comes with the battery (or charger). Maybe we need to make the need for the matching charger clearer on our order page. tnx Wayne N6KR On Jun 1, 2016, at 10:27 AM, Phil Townsend Lontz wrote: > So,I bought a KX2, a battery and an ATU... All working FB. But did I buy a battery charger??? Well, no, I have battery chargers in fact a bunch all designed to charge a wide variety of LION or LIPO or nicads lead acid or Nickle metal etc. But I cant charge the Elecraft Battery. > It seems that to charge the battery one needs the Elecraft Battery charger. I did not buy the Elecraft Charger... Bonehead MISTAKE. > > So the question is.... How to charge that battery? > Must I strip out all of the protection to charge it or is there a simple way around? > > Thank You > > Phil > K5SSR > Santa Fe, NM > > What Me Worry??? From n6kr at elecraft.com Wed Jun 1 23:37:27 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:37:27 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] K, KX radio's and DTMF tones In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7C56A4FA-91E5-4AC4-8698-AC6BA830B7A9@elecraft.com> The KX3 already supports DTMF (see owner's manual). It's on the wish-list for the K3/K3S. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jun 1, 2016, at 1:54 PM, "Ken G Kopp kengkopp at gmail.com [KX3]" wrote: > > For what seemingly is a relatively small number of FM users, DTMF tones are easily achieved with a DTMF pad-equipped microphone, and that would seem to be much better than complicating the already "busy" push-button operation. > > I'm probably missing something ..... > > 73 > > > > > __._,_.___ > Posted by: Ken G Kopp > Reply via web post ? Reply to sender ? Reply to group ? Start a New Topic ? Messages in this topic (1) > > Have you tried the highest rated email app? > With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. > VISIT YOUR GROUP > ? New Members 96 > > ? Privacy ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use > . > > > __,_._,___ From w6jhb at me.com Thu Jun 2 00:23:15 2016 From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 21:23:15 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 / VHF-UHF Questions Message-ID: <13C84337-E17C-4FDA-A898-02E2A063DA8B@me.com> Greetings fellow Elecrafters. After seeing the photo and short article (pg 76) in the recent issue of QST where W5RZ and WB5JJJ made several DX EME QSOs during a NPOA excursion, I'm a little curious about it. Many moons ago I used a Yaesu FT-736R and operated 144/432 MHz satellite modes. I used a pair of home brew quagis and a commercial amp, about 100 watts out, as I vaguely recall. Fun stuff. But my '736 is long gone, dang it. There are very, very few rigs on the market that do VHF and UHF. Icom has the new IC-9100 for a bazillion dollars, or one could go hunting in the used market for an older IC-910H or a '736 like I had. Still not inexpensive by any means. I've already got the K-Line here and was wondering about the Elecraft XV432 as a first step. Twenty five watts probably isn't gonna get a lot of RF to the moon and back, but maybe coupled with an amp...? Anyone on this list using their K3/K3S with the XV432 to do EME? If so, what are your likes and dislikes about it? How much power do you run, and what sort of antenna are you driving? Just wondering...... :-) Jim Bennett / W6JHB Folsom, CA From david at g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk Thu Jun 2 03:05:17 2016 From: david at g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk (David G4DMP) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 08:05:17 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] K, KX radio's and DTMF tones In-Reply-To: <7C56A4FA-91E5-4AC4-8698-AC6BA830B7A9@elecraft.com> References: <7C56A4FA-91E5-4AC4-8698-AC6BA830B7A9@elecraft.com> Message-ID: Thank you, Wayne; I am pleased to hear that. 73 de David G4DMP In a recent message, Wayne Burdick writes >The KX3 already supports DTMF (see owner's manual). It's on the wish- >list for the K3/K3S. -- + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds. | | Website: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + From KD8RQE at aol.com Thu Jun 2 06:51:32 2016 From: KD8RQE at aol.com (KD8RQE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 06:51:32 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Message-ID: <98bae.7e2575d4.448169b4@aol.com> A K2 kit is on it's way. Although I do have some experience soldering, it has been 30+ years and I am open to any suggestions as to equipment needed. I have a Hakko FS-951 soldering station. I have seen various mechanisms for holding the circuit boards while working on them. Any other tips and/or caveats are more than welcome. A retirement project, hopefully to be completed by the time the sun comes back in a few years. :) 73 Mike KD8RQE From dk5ya at dk5ya.de Thu Jun 2 07:12:39 2016 From: dk5ya at dk5ya.de (Udo Langenohl - DK5YA) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 13:12:39 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] WTB: KFL3B-FM Message-ID: <2b6a3088-b6f7-4ef7-11eb-fd77f592e231@dk5ya.de> Gents, anyone out there willing to say good bye to his FM-Filter and will trade? I'm looking for a KFL3B-FM for my 2nd K3. 73 Udo, DK5YA -- ****************************************** Webs by DK5YA: * http://www.mmmonvhf.de/ [editor]* http://www.vhfdx.de/ [owner] * http://www.palekastro.de/ [owner] * http://www.solweb.de/ [owner] * http://www.spessartwetter.de/ [owner] * ****************************************** From matt.vk2rq at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 07:28:41 2016 From: matt.vk2rq at gmail.com (Matt Maguire) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 21:28:41 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 In-Reply-To: <98bae.7e2575d4.448169b4@aol.com> References: <98bae.7e2575d4.448169b4@aol.com> Message-ID: Get a good set of wire cutters. It?s also handy to have some sort of magnification/lighting ? a desk lamp with a magnifying glass built in, or a jeweller?s magnifying this on your head. A good solder sucker just in case. Just take your time, do a full inventory at the start (can be quite helpful in identifying parts through a process of elimination where the markings may be ambiguous/unclear), double-check everything as you go, and enjoy the process. --? 73 de Matt VK2RQ On 2 June 2016 at 8:52:08 PM, Mike via Elecraft (elecraft at mailman.qth.net) wrote: A K2 kit is on it's way. Although I do have some experience soldering, it has been 30+ years and I am open to any suggestions as to equipment needed. I have a Hakko FS-951 soldering station. I have seen various mechanisms for holding the circuit boards while working on them. Any other tips and/or caveats are more than welcome. A retirement project, hopefully to be completed by the time the sun comes back in a few years. :) 73 Mike KD8RQE ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to matt.vk2rq at gmail.com From daleputnam at hotmail.com Thu Jun 2 07:43:17 2016 From: daleputnam at hotmail.com (Dale Putnam) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 11:43:17 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 In-Reply-To: References: <98bae.7e2575d4.448169b4@aol.com>, Message-ID: Hi Mike, A good soldering iron, check A good set of hand tools, - screwdriver, flushcut wirecutters, set of small nutdrivers A pair of good eyes.. aids are perfectly acceptable.. what ever it takes to SEE lights, magnifiers, etc. Lots of time.. forget the "gotta get it done by..." ASK QUESTIONS if needed to this reflector, just like you did.. it is a wealth of info. take your time, inventory first, and have fun with it.. it is a learning experience, and FUN.. too. Good Luck, and Congratulations for choosing Elecraft.. the best in the world!! Have a great day, --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy From lists at subich.com Thu Jun 2 08:25:53 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 08:25:53 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] K, KX radio's and DTMF tones In-Reply-To: <7C56A4FA-91E5-4AC4-8698-AC6BA830B7A9@elecraft.com> References: <7C56A4FA-91E5-4AC4-8698-AC6BA830B7A9@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <77f7d75c-682b-61fc-6463-6d732d60d32c@subich.com> On 6/1/2016 11:37 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > The KX3 already supports DTMF (see owner's manual). It's on the > wish-list for the K3/K3S. Please make it optional with a default of *off*. We don't need to heard DTMF tones as people blindly push buttons while transmitting thinking they are presetting functions for the return to receive. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 6/1/2016 11:37 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > The KX3 already supports DTMF (see owner's manual). It's on the wish-list for the K3/K3S. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > From Rodenkirch_LLC at msn.com Thu Jun 2 08:49:05 2016 From: Rodenkirch_LLC at msn.com (James Rodenkirch) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 12:49:05 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Summer operating events Message-ID: Hey, it's tuff finding decent summer contesting "challenges" that are fun and don't occupy the ENTIRE weekend.... BUT, here's an upcoming event you might could enjoy................the Summer Stew Perry 160 meter 'test.' Go here for the details: http://www.kkn.net/stew/ Remember, QRP participants enjoy double the point value (one of the FEW events where the operators don't eschew weak signals!!! .....the exchange is, simply, your 4-digit grid number - duh, how simple is that?? 71.5/72 de Jim Rodenkirch K9JWV From kz5d at aol.com Thu Jun 2 10:14:30 2016 From: kz5d at aol.com (Art) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 10:14:30 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod ship date update? Message-ID: <155117729e4-5ef2-cf6@webprd-m87.mail.aol.com> What's the expected ship date on the K-Pod? Art KZ5D From rdarlington at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 11:33:15 2016 From: rdarlington at gmail.com (Bob Darlington) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 09:33:15 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod ship date update? In-Reply-To: <155117729e4-5ef2-cf6@webprd-m87.mail.aol.com> References: <155117729e4-5ef2-cf6@webprd-m87.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: The elecraft.com website indicates they should start shipping 6/15. I hope I get mine before field day. -Bob, N3XKB On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Art via Elecraft wrote: > What's the expected ship date on the K-Pod? > > > Art KZ5D > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rdarlington at gmail.com > From n6kr at elecraft.com Thu Jun 2 11:53:21 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 08:53:21 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] K, KX radio's and DTMF tones In-Reply-To: <77f7d75c-682b-61fc-6463-6d732d60d32c@subich.com> References: <7C56A4FA-91E5-4AC4-8698-AC6BA830B7A9@elecraft.com> <77f7d75c-682b-61fc-6463-6d732d60d32c@subich.com> Message-ID: <45D71D06-0E1B-433B-90A1-B24EEB284E68@elecraft.com> It's been in the firmware since the late Cretaceous with zero complaints that I know of.... Wayne N6KR On Jun 2, 2016, at 5:25 AM, "Joe Subich, W4TV" wrote: > > On 6/1/2016 11:37 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > The KX3 already supports DTMF (see owner's manual). It's on the > > wish-list for the K3/K3S. > > Please make it optional with a default of *off*. We don't need to > heard DTMF tones as people blindly push buttons while transmitting thinking they are presetting functions for the return to receive. > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > On 6/1/2016 11:37 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> The KX3 already supports DTMF (see owner's manual). It's on the wish-list for the K3/K3S. >> >> 73, >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From donwilh at embarqmail.com Thu Jun 2 11:52:38 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 11:52:38 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 In-Reply-To: <98bae.7e2575d4.448169b4@aol.com> References: <98bae.7e2575d4.448169b4@aol.com> Message-ID: <96b767ad-2989-3aa2-42f7-b701f66e800c@embarqmail.com> Mike, If you have only limited experience soldering, check out the Soldering Tutorial on the Elecraft website. Most problems are caused by poor soldering, followed by poorly stripped and tinned toroid leads, and that followed by misplaced components. A quick insight on soldering - the old thinking of using a minimum soldering time to avoid damage should be discarded with modern temperature controlled soldering stations - that was for the old days of non-controlled irons that got very hot. We now have boards with thru-plated holes and components that will withstand soldering temperatures for at least 5 seconds. I normally use a temperature of 750 degF. Watch for the solder to flow as you solder. It should wick out completely onto the solder pad and the component lead in 2 to 3 seconds. If it takes longer than that the iron is too cold, if shorter, the iron is too hot. Larger leads and solder pads connected to the ground plane are exceptions and are expected to take longer. While a highly reactive solder flux (like Kester 44) is OK, IMHO it leaves a flux mess. I use solder with a mildly reactive flux (Kester 385) and there is very little solder residue. Do *not* clean the flux except in areas that have been reworked several times, and then clean up with alcohol on a swab. Do *not* flood the board and get residue under components where it cannot be removed except by de-soldering the components. If you do attempt to remove the flux, make sure *all* of it is gone. Flux is not conductive, but when combined with flux removers, any residue left may develop conductive paths when exposed to normal moisture in the air. If you see 'whitish' rings around component leads, the flux and remover residue is still present and can cause problems later. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/2/2016 6:51 AM, Mike via Elecraft wrote: > A K2 kit is on it's way. Although I do have some experience soldering, it > has been 30+ years and I am open to any suggestions as to equipment > needed. I have a Hakko FS-951 soldering station. I have seen various mechanisms > for holding the circuit boards while working on them. Any other tips > and/or caveats are more than welcome. A retirement project, hopefully to be > completed by the time the sun comes back in a few years. :) > From josh at voodoolab.com Thu Jun 2 12:43:33 2016 From: josh at voodoolab.com (Josh Fiden) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 09:43:33 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 In-Reply-To: <96b767ad-2989-3aa2-42f7-b701f66e800c@embarqmail.com> References: <98bae.7e2575d4.448169b4@aol.com> <96b767ad-2989-3aa2-42f7-b701f66e800c@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <57506235.3050704@voodoolab.com> I would respectfully disagree with this advice. It is dependent on the type of iron you're using. The Hakko FX-951 behaves quite different from the traditional temperature controlled stations. It has very fast thermal recovery, so typical through hole pads will flow in much less than 3 seconds, but not because the iron is too hot. 73, Josh W6XU On 6/2/2016 8:52 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > It should wick out completely onto the solder pad and the component > lead in 2 to 3 seconds. If it takes longer than that the iron is too > cold, if shorter, the iron is too hot. From eric_csuf at hotmail.com Thu Jun 2 12:52:00 2016 From: eric_csuf at hotmail.com (EricJ) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 09:52:00 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 In-Reply-To: <96b767ad-2989-3aa2-42f7-b701f66e800c@embarqmail.com> References: <98bae.7e2575d4.448169b4@aol.com> <96b767ad-2989-3aa2-42f7-b701f66e800c@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: I have two K2's. I didn't build either of them. One I bought off ebay 10 years ago (SN 567). The other I bought two years ago off this list (SN6911). Since I wanted something I didn't have to build, I could have bought ANY of the major brands. The K2 was a clear choice for me. Both perform exactly the same (SN 567 has all the latest mods) and both are as reliable as bricks. So, obviously, enjoy the building experience, but know at the end, you've chosen one of the best rigs in its class which will give you years of reliable service. And if it doesn't, you can fix it! I gave away a 10 year old TS-430S because I could no longer find parts. Eric KE6US On 6/2/2016 6:51 AM, Mike via Elecraft wrote: >> A K2 kit is on it's way. Although I do have some experience >> soldering, it >> has been 30+ years and I am open to any suggestions as to equipment >> needed. I have a Hakko FS-951 soldering station. I have seen various >> mechanisms >> for holding the circuit boards while working on them. Any other tips >> and/or caveats are more than welcome. A retirement project, >> hopefully to be >> completed by the time the sun comes back in a few years. :) From bhemmis at mac.com Thu Jun 2 13:13:47 2016 From: bhemmis at mac.com (Brian Hemmis) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2016 13:13:47 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] For Sale- K3/0 remote & K3 options & accessories In-Reply-To: References: <98bae.7e2575d4.448169b4@aol.com> <96b767ad-2989-3aa2-42f7-b701f66e800c@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: Having sold my K3 s/n 6625 posted here earlier this week, I have some options & accessories for sale. K3/0 remote s/n 0169 w/ cables for Remote Rig & manual. (Note this is the original full size K3 remote-not the mini.) $ 450 13 kHz AM, FM. ESSB filter $ 115 MH2 hand mic $ 45 W2 wattmeter with 1.8-54 MHz, 2 KW module $ 225 SignaLink USB digi interface w/ K3 cables $ 80 LP Pan 2 Panadapter (for K3) w/ cables $ 200 All gear in AS-New condition, working 100% and from a non-smoker home. All prices include USPS shipping CONUS and PayPal fees. Gear can also be picked up at my suburban Cleveland, OH QTH Brian K3USC (since 1962) k3usc at arrl.net home phone 216-848-0211 mobile phone 814-866-2585 From donwilh at embarqmail.com Thu Jun 2 13:25:08 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 13:25:08 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 In-Reply-To: <57506235.3050704@voodoolab.com> References: <98bae.7e2575d4.448169b4@aol.com> <96b767ad-2989-3aa2-42f7-b701f66e800c@embarqmail.com> <57506235.3050704@voodoolab.com> Message-ID: <61628d42-2dd4-4b0a-7ee4-68319a36f89f@embarqmail.com> That "rule" still applies - if less than 2 seconds, reduce the iron temperature, if longer than 3 seconds, increase it. A lot will depend on the size and heat mass of the soldering tip more so than the recovery time of the iron. A quick recovery is fine, but is not the whole story. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/2/2016 12:43 PM, Josh Fiden wrote: > I would respectfully disagree with this advice. It is dependent on the > type of iron you're using. The Hakko FX-951 behaves quite different > from the traditional temperature controlled stations. It has very fast > thermal recovery, so typical through hole pads will flow in much less > than 3 seconds, but not because the iron is too hot. > > 73, > Josh W6XU > > On 6/2/2016 8:52 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >> It should wick out completely onto the solder pad and the component >> lead in 2 to 3 seconds. If it takes longer than that the iron is too >> cold, if shorter, the iron is too hot. > From dl1sdz at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 13:57:04 2016 From: dl1sdz at gmail.com (Hajo Dezelski) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 19:57:04 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] [Kx3, Kx2] Can I control the Kx2 from the Kx3? Message-ID: Hello, while waiting for the Kx2 another question for the intended use: When not using the Kx2 on a mountain, I wanted to use the Kx2 as a second receiver for a kind of "diversity" reception with a second antenna. (I know a K3 with 2. RX would be better ...) Is there a way to control at least a Vfo from the Kx2 from the Kx3 so that both rigs show the same frequency? Of course I can do this with software and a PC, but a standalone solution would be nicer. ?73 de? Hajo ? dl1sdz? --- Cela est bien dit, mais il faut cultiver notre jardin. From lstavenhagen at hotmail.com Thu Jun 2 14:57:37 2016 From: lstavenhagen at hotmail.com (lstavenhagen) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 11:57:37 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K2 In-Reply-To: <98bae.7e2575d4.448169b4@aol.com> References: <98bae.7e2575d4.448169b4@aol.com> Message-ID: <1464893857512-7618367.post@n2.nabble.com> I've built 2 K2's; it's not too hard to build but there are difficult spots: - grounding the crystal cans (save the anti-static pads that the IC's ship on!). - installing/soldering the LCD to the front panel board (issue with spacers) - installing/soldering L33 - clearance issue between L33 and bottom cover - winding transformers in the BFO and final amplifier circuit. - desoldering tools. So instead of listing my experience on these items again, I'll just list them and say do a search on each of these in the archives before you start the build. That way, you'll be more or less acquainted with the 'gotchas' when you get to them. These are nothing that will stop you, just items that require some care and may be a little confusing. Enjoy! 73, LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-tp7618352p7618367.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From pe1bsb at zendamateur.nl Thu Jun 2 16:22:26 2016 From: pe1bsb at zendamateur.nl (William Lagerberg) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 22:22:26 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 transverter question Message-ID: <2CC9536C-025C-4888-BE96-23E9E24007B0@zendamateur.nl> Dear fellow Elecraft users, I have build a 70 Mhz transverter, i have read the K3 manual about how to connect a transverter. I have in my K3 the build in 2 meter transverter, and i do understand that the 144 Mhz transverter, also uses 28-30 Mhz. What is the best way to solve this, I have seen that Elecrafts own transverters, can be daisy chained. Can i build that into my own transverters ?? I like to have the possibility to connect more transverters then this one. Is there more documentation available and where can i find that. I o have the building transverter option in my K3 KXV3A or B i don't now i have the latest one still have to be build in. Thanks all ready for all your advices. William PE3BSB K2, K3, KX3 From pauls at elecraft.com Thu Jun 2 16:39:34 2016 From: pauls at elecraft.com (Paul Saffren N6HZ) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 13:39:34 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Carrier Null In-Reply-To: <6460D8B6-E429-4E5E-920A-D6A69EE31B22@gmail.com> References: <6460D8B6-E429-4E5E-920A-D6A69EE31B22@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1464899974485-7618369.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi Joel, It sounds like you might be confusing the Rx null for the KX3 with the opposite side band nulling for the PX3. (easy since they both are 'nulling') . If you are interested in removing opposite side bands from the display of the PX3, follow the PX3 OSB nulling procedures as noted in the PX3 manual. As others have mentioned, be sure to plug that little I/Q connector firmly into the KX3. It is common to have it only partially seated which only feeds one of the I/Q signals into the PX3. -Paul -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-Carrier-Null-tp7618344p7618369.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From donwilh at embarqmail.com Thu Jun 2 17:13:52 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 17:13:52 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 transverter question In-Reply-To: <2CC9536C-025C-4888-BE96-23E9E24007B0@zendamateur.nl> References: <2CC9536C-025C-4888-BE96-23E9E24007B0@zendamateur.nl> Message-ID: <29f323a9-fa2e-d1ca-0574-26f32fdf2446@embarqmail.com> William, If you arrange your transverters like the 28MHz input/output is like that in the XV series transverters - i.e. there is a relay that opens the connection to those IF connections when power is off - and importantly, you assure that no two transverters are on at the same time, then you can daisy-chain the 28MHz input/output just like the Elecraft transverters. See the schematic in the XV series Owner's manual - IF and Control Schematic. The XV series transverters rely on the setting the Band Select switches for the transverter band to be used in conjunction with the firmware in the XV transverter listening to the AUXBUS signalling to determine which transverter is to be selected (and powered on). That part would be difficult to duplicate because the XV firmware and Auxbus protocol is Elecraft proprietary, but you could use the band data outputs from the K3 ACC connector and some logic to determine which transverter is to be selected and power it on. The implementation is "up to the builder". For the transverter band setup in the K3, refer to the manual page 18 and 19 for the Band Data outputs for the transverters and match that to the "XVn" settings in the K3 menu chart toward the end of the manual to accomplish what you desire. There is no other documentation that I am aware of. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/2/2016 4:22 PM, William Lagerberg wrote: > Dear fellow Elecraft users, > > I have build a 70 Mhz transverter, i have read the K3 manual about how to connect a transverter. > > I have in my K3 the build in 2 meter transverter, and i do understand that the 144 Mhz transverter, also uses 28-30 Mhz. > > What is the best way to solve this, > > I have seen that Elecrafts own transverters, can be daisy chained. Can i build that into my own transverters ?? I like to have the possibility to connect more transverters then this one. > > Is there more documentation available and where can i find that. > > From bhemmis at mac.com Thu Jun 2 20:39:19 2016 From: bhemmis at mac.com (Brian Hemmis) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2016 20:39:19 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] For Sale- K3 options & accessories- remaining items list In-Reply-To: References: <98bae.7e2575d4.448169b4@aol.com> <96b767ad-2989-3aa2-42f7-b701f66e800c@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <547C2E6E-709C-441A-9466-82A93555A5B1@mac.com> Updated listing of remaining items... > > Having sold my K3 s/n 6625 posted here earlier this week, I have some options & accessories for sale. > > KFLA3A 2.7k 5 pole standard K3 SSB filter $ 40 > W2 wattmeter with 1.8-54 MHz, 2 KW module $ 225 > SignaLink USB digi interface w/ K3 cables $ 80 > LP Pan 2 Panadapter (for K3) w/ cables $ 200 > > All gear in AS-New condition, working 100% and from a non-smoker home. > > All prices include USPS shipping CONUS and PayPal fees. Gear can also be picked up at my suburban Cleveland, OH QTH > > Brian K3USC (since 1962) > > k3usc at arrl.net > > home phone 216-848-0211 > mobile phone 814-866-2585 > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k3usc at arrl.net From bwruble at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 21:51:40 2016 From: bwruble at gmail.com (Brian F Wruble) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 21:51:40 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 "Bypass SWR"? Message-ID: My KAT500 utility program shows the tuned VSWR, generally a low number, and it also shows "Bypass SWR". Is that a reading of the feed line SWR without the tuner in the circuit? TNX. 73 de Brian W3BW Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A. Sent from my iPad Air 2 From rfriess at usa.net Thu Jun 2 22:20:04 2016 From: rfriess at usa.net (Robert Friess) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 19:20:04 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 "Bypass SWR"? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, Bob, N6CM On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Brian F Wruble wrote: > My KAT500 utility program shows the tuned VSWR, generally a low number, > and it also shows "Bypass SWR". Is that a reading of the feed line SWR > without the tuner in the circuit? > > TNX. 73 de Brian W3BW > > Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A. > Sent from my iPad Air 2 > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rfriess at usa.net > From dick at elecraft.com Thu Jun 2 22:53:04 2016 From: dick at elecraft.com (Dick Dievendorff) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 19:53:04 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 "Bypass SWR"? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008101d1bd43$0d12f620$2738e260$@elecraft.com> Yes, that's the SWR measured with the ATU in bypass. That's the first setting we try in a "full search tune". >From KAT500 Utility Help for the Operate page: Bypass VSWR The VSWR measured when the ATU was last in "bypass", an estimate of the antenna's "untuned" VSWR without any ATU inductors or capacitors. 73 de Dick, K6KR -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brian F Wruble Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 18:52 To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 "Bypass SWR"? My KAT500 utility program shows the tuned VSWR, generally a low number, and it also shows "Bypass SWR". Is that a reading of the feed line SWR without the tuner in the circuit? TNX. 73 de Brian W3BW Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A. Sent from my iPad Air 2 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to dick at elecraft.com From josh at voodoolab.com Thu Jun 2 23:36:09 2016 From: josh at voodoolab.com (Josh Fiden) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 20:36:09 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 In-Reply-To: <61628d42-2dd4-4b0a-7ee4-68319a36f89f@embarqmail.com> References: <98bae.7e2575d4.448169b4@aol.com> <96b767ad-2989-3aa2-42f7-b701f66e800c@embarqmail.com> <57506235.3050704@voodoolab.com> <61628d42-2dd4-4b0a-7ee4-68319a36f89f@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <5750FB29.20902@voodoolab.com> Sorry, that simply is not true. You don't understand how these Metcal, newer Hakko (and other) irons work. Our production facility produces thousands of through-hole boards per month. After testing the newer soldering stations we immediately started replacing conventional Weller WTCPT and Hakko 936 irons because both time per joint is faster and temperature is more consistent as you move to the next joint. These newer designs intentionally use tips with low thermal mass, have a fast control loop (rather than slow on/off cycling), and sense temperature at the tip. Adjusting the iron temperature is normally not required because the iron instantaneously provides more heat to maintain the set temperature. If the rate is too slow, you would first look at tip geometry to more efficiently transfer heat. This document describes the functional difference between conventional vs new irons. http://www.eis-inc.com/Files/pdf/supplier_showcase_page_downloads/oki/Tech_Note_High_Throughput_With_SmarHeat.pdf 73, Josh W6XU On 6/2/2016 10:25 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > That "rule" still applies - if less than 2 seconds, reduce the iron > temperature, if longer than 3 seconds, increase it. > A lot will depend on the size and heat mass of the soldering tip more > so than the recovery time of the iron. A quick recovery is fine, but > is not the whole story. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 6/2/2016 12:43 PM, Josh Fiden wrote: >> I would respectfully disagree with this advice. It is dependent on >> the type of iron you're using. The Hakko FX-951 behaves quite >> different from the traditional temperature controlled stations. It >> has very fast thermal recovery, so typical through hole pads will >> flow in much less than 3 seconds, but not because the iron is too hot. From lmarion at mt.net Fri Jun 3 03:02:43 2016 From: lmarion at mt.net (lmarion) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 01:02:43 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2 firmware, rev. 2.61 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8D59139BF21243B7BEB91D4515DE390C@LeroyPC> No problems here Wayne, and my blind son thanks you for the accommodation. Leroy AB7CE -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Burdick Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 10:57 PM To: John Oppenheimer Cc: Roger Marrotte ; lmarion ; Michael Walker Subject: Re: New KX2 firmware, rev. 2.61 Thanks for the report! Wayne N6KR On Jun 2, 2016, at 6:34 PM, John Oppenheimer wrote: > Hi Wayne, > > I've been doing my normal CW QSOs, no issues found here, > > John KN5L > > On 05/31/2016 09:12 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> The attached firmware has the updates to the audio-CW (Morse) user >> interface, but the firmware also just needs general testing (all modes, >> etc.). >> >> If you'd like to try the audio-CW interface, set MENU:SW TONE to one of >> the CODE settings. Upon exiting the menu, your radio will now have CW >> feedback on *almost* all of the switch and knob functions. It's not >> perfect, but it's the minimal subset that would allow a blind op to use >> the radio. >> >> Also attached is the document that describes the radio and its Morse UI >> to blind ops. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From joel.b.black at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 06:18:43 2016 From: joel.b.black at gmail.com (Joel Black) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 05:18:43 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Carrier Null In-Reply-To: <1464899974485-7618369.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <6460D8B6-E429-4E5E-920A-D6A69EE31B22@gmail.com> <1464899974485-7618369.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: I?m not sure, but I think the problem has solved itself. I?m listening to a 75 m group this morning and listened to a little 20 m PSK last night and the artifacts, for the most part, appear to be gone. Not sure what happened or what I did to fix it - I did not go through the Opposite Sideband Nulling procedure. Here *is* what I did: 1. After I received the PX3, I updated the F/W. After I updated, I saved a config (yep, should have saved before but forgot). I reloaded that saved config last night. 2. Recently, I tried a new power-up procedure - KX3 *then* PX3. I had the power jumper set on the PX3 to turn on when DC is applied and didn?t like the lack of control that offered so I put the jumper back. 3. I have arranged my cables a tad differently and will take a picture of that arrangement trying to duplicate it each time. Someone on this list or the Yahoo reflector posted a picture of a BNC star washer with a ground lug on it. I?m going to order one of those and also put some kind of ground lug on the PX3 and make sure I have a good ground in the shack and *try* to eliminate any ground loop issues between the KX3 and PX3. Late yesterday afternoon, I was kicking myself; today, I?m quite pleased with the PX3 - fickle lot, aren?t we? 73, Joel - W4JBB From donwilh at embarqmail.com Fri Jun 3 09:43:48 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 09:43:48 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 In-Reply-To: <5750FB29.20902@voodoolab.com> References: <98bae.7e2575d4.448169b4@aol.com> <96b767ad-2989-3aa2-42f7-b701f66e800c@embarqmail.com> <57506235.3050704@voodoolab.com> <61628d42-2dd4-4b0a-7ee4-68319a36f89f@embarqmail.com> <5750FB29.20902@voodoolab.com> Message-ID: <808fa5a9-45d6-a46a-18a4-4ee82cdb8b6f@embarqmail.com> I have not used one of those irons yet, so I can't comment on those statements. What I can say for certainty is that the component lead and solder pad must be heated sufficiently to allow the solder to flow onto both and out to a very thin (almost invisible) edge. There is more to soldering than just melting the solder - it has to flow out onto both surfaces and adhere to both of them. If the flow does not happen, you are just "pasting solder". I am certain that can happen with any type of soldering iron. The document that Josh referenced indicates that soldering may be done at a lower temperature with these irons, and that is OK - know your soldering tool and watch the solder flow as you work. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/2/2016 11:36 PM, Josh Fiden wrote: > Sorry, that simply is not true. You don't understand how these Metcal, > newer Hakko (and other) irons work. Our production facility produces > thousands of through-hole boards per month. After testing the newer > soldering stations we immediately started replacing conventional > Weller WTCPT and Hakko 936 irons because both time per joint is faster > and temperature is more consistent as you move to the next joint. > > These newer designs intentionally use tips with low thermal mass, have > a fast control loop (rather than slow on/off cycling), and sense > temperature at the tip. Adjusting the iron temperature is normally not > required because the iron instantaneously provides more heat to > maintain the set temperature. If the rate is too slow, you would first > look at tip geometry to more efficiently transfer heat. > > This document describes the functional difference between conventional > vs new irons. > http://www.eis-inc.com/Files/pdf/supplier_showcase_page_downloads/oki/Tech_Note_High_Throughput_With_SmarHeat.pdf > > From donwilh at embarqmail.com Fri Jun 3 10:03:32 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 10:03:32 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Carrier Null In-Reply-To: References: <6460D8B6-E429-4E5E-920A-D6A69EE31B22@gmail.com> <1464899974485-7618369.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Joel and all, Use BONDING rather than "Grounding" You may create more noise problems by attempting to "ground" everything. "Ground" is not a sink for noise and RFI problems, it is only protection for AC mains safety and lightning surges. Grounding will not carry away noise that is picked up on the shields of connecting cables, and in some cases may even make it worse. Yes, you should have a good Mother Earth ground in the hamshack, but it will likely not help with noise, hum and buzz problems. Take the advice of Jim Brown K9YC and BOND the equipment enclosures together. In other words, connect the KX3 and PX3 enclosures together with a heavy wire or braid. What you accomplish by bonding is to take a major portion of the noise that would appear on the cable shield(s) and conduct it to the outside of the enclosure so that it does not get onto the ground plane of the PC board. We did not have that problem years ago when all connectors were mounted to a metal enclosure. The outside of the cable shield braid was connected to the outside of the enclosure. But modern construction techniques connect the shields of cables to the ground plane of the PC board and not to the enclosure. So any noise present on the outside of the cable shield is conducted into the electronics. The bonding wire eliminates much of that "pin 1 problem". 73, Don W3FPR On 6/3/2016 6:18 AM, Joel Black wrote: > Someone on this list or the Yahoo reflector posted a picture of a BNC star washer with a ground lug on it. I?m going to order one of those and also put some kind of ground lug on the PX3 and make sure I have a good ground in the shack and *try* to eliminate any ground loop issues between the KX3 and PX3. > > From ormandj at corenode.com Fri Jun 3 10:14:55 2016 From: ormandj at corenode.com (David Orman) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 09:14:55 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Bonding KX3/PX3/KXPA100 - any examples? Message-ID: Hi, After reading Jim/K9YC's helpful documentation, as well as various suggestions on this and other lists, it's clear bonding equipment together is a good plan. I'm curious to see _how_ people have done this with their KX3/PX3/KXPA100 combinations, as in what points (thumbscrews for the feet? something else?) they are bonding together, using what kind of braid/wire, and how they've got everything put together in general. I searched Google with minimal luck finding any such examples, and I think it would be useful for the group to see some good examples of how things should be done. Thank you, David/K5DJO From lists at subich.com Fri Jun 3 10:29:12 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 10:29:12 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Carrier Null In-Reply-To: References: <6460D8B6-E429-4E5E-920A-D6A69EE31B22@gmail.com> <1464899974485-7618369.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On 6/3/2016 10:03 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > The bonding wire eliminates much of that "pin 1 problem". That is only true of two conditions are met: 1) the case is metal (conductive) 2) the case is tied to the power supply return (negative) at the power input. Otherwise, *bonding* tends to circuit board "ground plane" to circuit board "ground plane" and spread the noise through all of the connected devices - particularly if the device does not have a single "ground post" and the bonding is connected haphazardly to whatever case/chassis/connector screw is handy. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 6/3/2016 10:03 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Joel and all, > > Use BONDING rather than "Grounding" > > You may create more noise problems by attempting to "ground" everything. > "Ground" is not a sink for noise and RFI problems, it is only protection > for AC mains safety and lightning surges. Grounding will not carry away > noise that is picked up on the shields of connecting cables, and in some > cases may even make it worse. Yes, you should have a good Mother Earth > ground in the hamshack, but it will likely not help with noise, hum and > buzz problems. > > Take the advice of Jim Brown K9YC and BOND the equipment enclosures > together. > In other words, connect the KX3 and PX3 enclosures together with a heavy > wire or braid. > > What you accomplish by bonding is to take a major portion of the noise > that would appear on the cable shield(s) and conduct it to the outside > of the enclosure so that it does not get onto the ground plane of the PC > board. > > We did not have that problem years ago when all connectors were mounted > to a metal enclosure. The outside of the cable shield braid was > connected to the outside of the enclosure. > But modern construction techniques connect the shields of cables to the > ground plane of the PC board and not to the enclosure. So any noise > present on the outside of the cable shield is conducted into the > electronics. The bonding wire eliminates much of that "pin 1 problem". > > 73, > Don W3FPR > From n6kr at elecraft.com Fri Jun 3 11:48:57 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 08:48:57 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] HFpack and the KX-Line Message-ID: Hi all, HFpack is a form of pedestrian mobile (/PM) operation where the radio is secured to your body or installed in a pack in such a way that it can be used when needed without any setup. There's a dedicated Yahoo group for those interested in this ("hfpack"). This is a great source of information. HFpack operators have their own operating events, special frequencies, etc. The small size of the KX2 should make it ideal for HFpack operation. An op who currently use FT-817 mentioned this when we were at Dayton. The KX2 is half the weight and has twice the power output, meaning more of his weight budget could be dedicated to batteries, antennas, etc. The KX3 is another frequent choice for HFpackers, thanks to its expanded band coverage. 6 meters works great with small antennas, and the 2-meter option also comes in handy. As a frequent hiker, I often use the KX2 hand-held. But I'm interested in exploring the possibilities of pack- or belt-mounting the rig. I can also imagine a rapid-deployment whip antenna attached to the pack frame. It could be a telescoping whip such as an MFJ1820, or maybe a wire spool with a weight for tossing it into a tree. In the half-crazy-but-who-cares department: how about putting a small tuned loop *inside* a backpack? On a band like 17 meters, which is great for HFpack during the day, a small loop would be reasonably efficient, and could cover most of the SSB portion of the band without retuning. In an month or so, Scott (AK6Q) will have a light-weight, snap-in mobile mount bracket for the KX2. This should be useful for some potential HFpack installations. Beats velcro :) Anyone working on an HFpack installation? 73, Wayne N6KR From edauer at law.du.edu Fri Jun 3 12:20:37 2016 From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:20:37 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] fldigi for Mac / K3 / KX3 / K2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Fumbling with the Aether logging program during the recent CQ WW WPX (CW) convinced me that I need to bite the bullet and get a program that will do rig control as well as logging. Posts on this reflector suggest that fldigi is widely used, and it does seem to be usable with a Mac OS. So I downloaded the Users Manual. It comprises 428 pages of dense computer jargon, including a TOC of 18 pages, beginning with instructions about configuring a sound card. Two questions. First, I operate 100% CW and I don?t care at all for machine decoding of CW received though I do want the program to key my transmissions using info from the keyboard log entry - call signs, automatic S/N update, other exchange, etc.. Do I even need a sound card to use the fldigi program? Second, is there a Cliff?s Notes version of the operating guide accessible by computer-speak tyros? Tnx, Ted, KN1CBR From M0XDF at Alphadene.co.uk Fri Jun 3 12:45:58 2016 From: M0XDF at Alphadene.co.uk (David Ferrington, M0XDF) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 17:45:58 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] fldigi for Mac / K3 / KX3 / K2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <63EEF49E-598A-4191-B285-6F01126C19F3@Alphadene.co.uk> Take a look at MacLoggerDX, you do have to pay for it, but a number of us MacHams think it's well worth it (https://www.dogparksoftware.com/MacLoggerDX.html). Also there is RUMLog, which was free (http://www.dl2rum.de/rumsoft/RUMLog.html). > On 3 Jun 2016, at 17:20, Dauer, Edward wrote: > > Fumbling with the Aether logging program during the recent CQ WW WPX (CW) > convinced me that I need to bite the bullet and get a program that will do > rig control as well as logging. Posts on this reflector suggest that > fldigi is widely used, and it does seem to be usable with a Mac OS. So I > downloaded the Users Manual. It comprises 428 pages of dense computer > jargon, including a TOC of 18 pages, beginning with instructions about > configuring a sound card. Two questions. First, I operate 100% CW and I > don?t care at all for machine decoding of CW received though I do want the > program to key my transmissions using info from the keyboard log entry - > call signs, automatic S/N update, other exchange, etc.. Do I even need a > sound card to use the fldigi program? Second, is there a Cliff?s Notes > version of the operating guide accessible by computer-speak tyros? Tnx, > > Ted, KN1CBR > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to m0xdf at alphadene.co.uk From ron at cobi.biz Fri Jun 3 13:08:59 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 10:08:59 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Soldering speed and temperature In-Reply-To: <5750FB29.20902@voodoolab.com> References: <98bae.7e2575d4.448169b4@aol.com> <96b767ad-2989-3aa2-42f7-b701f66e800c@embarqmail.com> <57506235.3050704@voodoolab.com> <61628d42-2dd4-4b0a-7ee4-68319a36f89f@embarqmail.com> <5750FB29.20902@voodoolab.com> Message-ID: <003d01d1bdba$9f15ae60$dd410b20$@biz> That's an interesting document Josh. It summarizes, "Solder connection temperature, not soldering iron tip temperature, should be the parameter we focus on to ensure reliable solder joints." That's why the proper tip geometry and a small amount of solder to conduct the heat efficiently is so important for consistent, properly soldered joints. Still, a certain amount of time is required for the solder and surfaces to reach the proper temperature and allow the solder to flow as the document explains. I believe that's what Don is referring to with his 2 s or 3 s soldering time range for the typical components and solder sizes we are using on the Elecraft and similar gear. That interval is what is required by the thermal mass of the parts more than by a droop in the iron temperature. I've always found it a good "rule of thumb". I submit it is still valid even with a new technology iron such as described in the document. The difference is that the newer more sensitive temperature controls require little or no adjustment of their heat setting when changing from one size solder joint to another (within limits) or when soldering a great many joints in rapid succession. 73, Ron AC7AC From kx4o at hamradio.me Fri Jun 3 13:24:52 2016 From: kx4o at hamradio.me (John Huggins, kx4o) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 17:24:52 -0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Bonding KX3/PX3/KXPA100 - any examples? Message-ID: <7d2222632eb44aab64829a4fc14b6f28.squirrel@mail3.fairfaxva.net> I wish I had more pictures, but this one... http://www.hamradio.me/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/20150627-009.jpg ...from my FD article... http://www.hamradio.me/activities/kx4o-1b-battery-va-field-day-2015.html ...shows a strap of copper running behind all the gear shown roughly following K9YC's advice. I used some 1/4 inch braid I found somewhere, crimped some lugs on each end and connected each chassis to the strap. The RigBlaster connects via one of its case mounting screws. The PX3 and KX3 connect via one of the chassis thumbscrews. Not shown is a 5V linear regulator to power my USB splitter from a Pb equiv. battery. It uses the copper strap as the heatsink. This works quite well. I've never encountered the noisy conditions that Jim's steps help mitigate, but I think it is a good idea regardless. John, kx4o On Fri, June 3, 2016 14:14, David Orman wrote: > Hi, > > > After reading Jim/K9YC's helpful documentation, as well as various > suggestions on this and other lists, it's clear bonding equipment together > is a good plan. I'm curious to see _how_ people have done this with > their KX3/PX3/KXPA100 combinations, as in what points (thumbscrews for the > feet? something else?) they are bonding together, using what kind of > braid/wire, and how they've got everything put together in general. I > searched Google with minimal luck finding any such examples, and I think > it would be useful for the group to see some good examples of how things > should be done. > > Thank you, > David/K5DJO From edauer at law.du.edu Fri Jun 3 13:46:31 2016 From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 17:46:31 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] fldigi for Mac / K3 / KX3 / K2 In-Reply-To: <63EEF49E-598A-4191-B285-6F01126C19F3@Alphadene.co.uk> Message-ID: Thanks David ( and thanks to others who replied offline, including VE3KI, N1HO, NF4L, and others who will have replied by the time I send this.) I had tried both RUMLog and MacLogger in the past and, for reasons I can't now remember, I dropped them. It may be that back then I was looking just for manual logging rather than logging plus basic rig control (for one of them, I recall, I had to create a "phantom" transceiver to fool the program into thinking I actually had a rig connected to the computer.) Based on the advice I've gotten here, I will go back and look at each. As someone just said, for what I need fldigi is "way overkill." Good. It will not pain me to erase a 428 page user's manual that I won't be reading. At least not now. Maybe someday . . . Thanks again, all . . . Ted, KN1CBR Edward A. Dauer, LL.B. M.P.H. Dean Emeritus and Professor Emeritus of Law University of Denver From: "", M0XDF > Date: Friday, June 3, 2016 at 10:45 AM To: Edward Dauer > Cc: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] fldigi for Mac / K3 / KX3 / K2 Take a look at MacLoggerDX, you do have to pay for it, but a number of us MacHams think it's well worth it (https://www.dogparksoftware.com/MacLoggerDX.html). Also there is RUMLog, which was free (http://www.dl2rum.de/rumsoft/RUMLog.html). From wunder at wunderwood.org Fri Jun 3 13:54:38 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 10:54:38 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] fldigi for Mac / K3 / KX3 / K2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7785B637-5AF6-419C-8D0E-13B89B646C93@wunderwood.org> RUMlog got a big rewrite about a year ago, now it is RUMlogNG. Worth another look. You can install it from his website or from the Mac App Store. KX2 support was added in the most recent version. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:46 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote: > > Thanks David ( and thanks to others who replied offline, including VE3KI, N1HO, NF4L, and others who will have replied by the time I send this.) > > I had tried both RUMLog and MacLogger in the past and, for reasons I can't now remember, I dropped them. It may be that back then I was looking just for manual logging rather than logging plus basic rig control (for one of them, I recall, I had to create a "phantom" transceiver to fool the program into thinking I actually had a rig connected to the computer.) > > Based on the advice I've gotten here, I will go back and look at each. As someone just said, for what I need fldigi is "way overkill." Good. It will not pain me to erase a 428 page user's manual that I won't be reading. At least not now. Maybe someday . . . > > Thanks again, all . . . > > Ted, KN1CBR > > > Edward A. Dauer, LL.B. M.P.H. > Dean Emeritus and Professor Emeritus of Law > University of Denver > > > From: "", M0XDF > > Date: Friday, June 3, 2016 at 10:45 AM > To: Edward Dauer > > Cc: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] fldigi for Mac / K3 / KX3 / K2 > > Take a look at MacLoggerDX, you do have to pay for it, but a number of us MacHams think it's well worth it (https://www.dogparksoftware.com/MacLoggerDX.html). > > Also there is RUMLog, which was free (http://www.dl2rum.de/rumsoft/RUMLog.html). > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From jkramer at iafrica.com Fri Jun 3 13:54:45 2016 From: jkramer at iafrica.com (John) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 19:54:45 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] Bonding KX3/PX3/KXPA100 - any examples? In-Reply-To: <7d2222632eb44aab64829a4fc14b6f28.squirrel@mail3.fairfaxva.net> References: <7d2222632eb44aab64829a4fc14b6f28.squirrel@mail3.fairfaxva.net> Message-ID: <40BA17C1-CAB1-461B-9638-B5D99FFF5483@iafrica.com> Thanks for the picture of your FD setup That first picture reflects one thing I hate about my KX3 and PX3 - when you have everything hooked up, it is one mass of wires everywhere. The KX3 and PX3 is a fantastic pair in every other way, but dang, I can?t handle the crows nest that it creates. If there is ever a KX3 MKII, I think Wayne needs to look at cutting down on the number of separate cables going everywhere?and if possible tuck the connectors into the back of the radio, not the sides?.it just makes it far worse with the cables coming out the sides. One thing that could be done, is combine the 12v DC supply for the KX3 and PX3, so they don?t require their own DC supply. And their could be a single wiring loom, and perhaps make use of a USB cable for connectivity. 73 John On 3 Jun 2016, at 7:24 PM, John Huggins, kx4o wrote: I wish I had more pictures, but this one... http://www.hamradio.me/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/20150627-009.jpg ...from my FD article... http://www.hamradio.me/activities/kx4o-1b-battery-va-field-day-2015.html ...shows a strap of copper running behind all the gear shown roughly following K9YC's advice. I used some 1/4 inch braid I found somewhere, crimped some lugs on each end and connected each chassis to the strap. The RigBlaster connects via one of its case mounting screws. The PX3 and KX3 connect via one of the chassis thumbscrews. Not shown is a 5V linear regulator to power my USB splitter from a Pb equiv. battery. It uses the copper strap as the heatsink. This works quite well. I've never encountered the noisy conditions that Jim's steps help mitigate, but I think it is a good idea regardless. John, kx4o On Fri, June 3, 2016 14:14, David Orman wrote: > Hi, > > > After reading Jim/K9YC's helpful documentation, as well as various > suggestions on this and other lists, it's clear bonding equipment together > is a good plan. I'm curious to see _how_ people have done this with > their KX3/PX3/KXPA100 combinations, as in what points (thumbscrews for the > feet? something else?) they are bonding together, using what kind of > braid/wire, and how they've got everything put together in general. I > searched Google with minimal luck finding any such examples, and I think > it would be useful for the group to see some good examples of how things > should be done. > > Thank you, > David/K5DJO ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jkramer at iafrica.com From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Fri Jun 3 14:09:13 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 11:09:13 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Bonding KX3/PX3/KXPA100 - any examples? In-Reply-To: <40BA17C1-CAB1-461B-9638-B5D99FFF5483@iafrica.com> References: <7d2222632eb44aab64829a4fc14b6f28.squirrel@mail3.fairfaxva.net> <40BA17C1-CAB1-461B-9638-B5D99FFF5483@iafrica.com> Message-ID: <7db21cdf-4949-6c37-0b80-32faf775be15@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Fri,6/3/2016 10:54 AM, John wrote: > That first picture reflects one thing I hate about my KX3 and PX3 - when you have > everything hooked up, it is one mass of wires everywhere. > The KX3 and PX3 is a fantastic pair in every other way, but dang, I can?t handle > the crows nest that it creates. I've bundled the interconnections using small Ty-Wraps for the KX3, PX3, and KXPA100. Elecraft has very nicely provided interconnect between the KXPA100 and the KX3 using a single CAT5 cable with standard wiring for everything but power and RF. 73, Jim K9YC From k9osccw at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 14:29:09 2016 From: k9osccw at gmail.com (Robert Brock) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 11:29:09 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K3/100F (S/N 4687) For Sale Message-ID: <1464978549548-7618389.post@n2.nabble.com> For sale is my K3/100F transceiver S/N 4687. Original owner and radio is immaculate and in perfect working condition with latest firmware installed. Used only in a non-smoking home in my first floor shack air conditioned and heated. Am selling as I have two K3?s and don?t use this one. Included: K3/100F Factory Assembled KAT3 Antenna Tuning Unit KBPF3 General Coverage Receive Module KFL3A-400 400 Hz. 8 pole Filter All original manuals, power cable with Anderson Powerpoles on both ends, original boxes and packing material. Excellent on CW, SSB and digital modes. No issues whatsoever. Original cost: $2,716. Selling price: $1,900 Shipped CONUS. Accept USPS money order only. Will ship same day upon arrival of payment. Contact K9OSC off list please at k9osccw at gmail.com. Can also be reached at 763-951-2870. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-100F-S-N-4687-For-Sale-tp7618389.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From n7xy at n7xy.net Fri Jun 3 14:35:04 2016 From: n7xy at n7xy.net (Bob Nielsen) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 11:35:04 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] fldigi for Mac / K3 / KX3 / K2 In-Reply-To: <63EEF49E-598A-4191-B285-6F01126C19F3@Alphadene.co.uk> References: <63EEF49E-598A-4191-B285-6F01126C19F3@Alphadene.co.uk> Message-ID: I only use fldigi for digital modes. For CW or SSB I have MacLoggerDX and think it is pretty good, but I prefer to use RUMlogNG (free). It also has a contest mode which supports most of the popular contests (new ones are added frequently). http://dl2rum.de/rumsoft/RUMLog.html Bob, N7XY On 6/3/16 9:45 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: > Take a look at MacLoggerDX, you do have to pay for it, but a number of us MacHams think it's well worth it (https://www.dogparksoftware.com/MacLoggerDX.html). > > Also there is RUMLog, which was free (http://www.dl2rum.de/rumsoft/RUMLog.html). > > >> On 3 Jun 2016, at 17:20, Dauer, Edward wrote: >> >> Fumbling with the Aether logging program during the recent CQ WW WPX (CW) >> convinced me that I need to bite the bullet and get a program that will do >> rig control as well as logging. Posts on this reflector suggest that >> fldigi is widely used, and it does seem to be usable with a Mac OS. So I >> downloaded the Users Manual. It comprises 428 pages of dense computer >> jargon, including a TOC of 18 pages, beginning with instructions about >> configuring a sound card. Two questions. First, I operate 100% CW and I >> don?t care at all for machine decoding of CW received though I do want the >> program to key my transmissions using info from the keyboard log entry - >> call signs, automatic S/N update, other exchange, etc.. Do I even need a >> sound card to use the fldigi program? Second, is there a Cliff?s Notes >> version of the operating guide accessible by computer-speak tyros? Tnx, >> >> Ted, KN1CBR >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to m0xdf at alphadene.co.uk > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n7xy at n7xy.net From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Fri Jun 3 15:56:47 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 11:56:47 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Message-ID: <201606031956.u53JundZ027484@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> I upgraded to the Hakko FX-951 a couple years ago because I needed a more reliable solder iron for the sm production I was doing. Probably 60-70% of my work was doing sm vs thru-hole soldering. I bought several different sized tips for handling different work. I've found 670F degrees works well and I use the "sleep" feature of the Hakko which automatically lowers temp to 400F after a short period of no use which extends life of the tips. The iron warms back to 670F in about 3-4 seconds which is announced by an audible beep so you do not need to look away from your work. In 2015 I built eleven transverters, five mmic preamps, and seven 2m amplifiers; another five amplifiers in 2016. All this was for customers so does not reflect working on my personal "stuff". Tips: T15-D08 is what I use most of the time as its 0.8 mm small chisel tip works well with sm down to 0402 T15-D12 was my original choice 1.2 mm chisel but found it too large for smaller sm (OK above 0805); I also use this for thru-hole or where the thermal mass is a bit more. T15-DL52 is a big tip (about 1/4-inch chisel) for soldering PL-259's and sheet metal shields, large leads on power transistors, etc. that require a lot of heat transfer that you want done quickly to avoid overheating component. T15-ILS conical tip has not gotten much use but handy for desoldering pcb holes with use of solder sucker on back side of the board. I just installed a 44-pin header and socket on a pcb (thru hole) and each lead took about 1-2 seconds (leads .025 inch square so little mass). Took me less than 10-min. to install the header and sockets in their respective pcb. I particularly like the wire tip cleaner vs wet sponge method of old Weller irons as it does not cool the tip. Also very handy to clean the tip before making every contact. I have replaced the T15-D08 tip once since buying the iron (shows how much work I am doing). Tip actually failed. I still have a 20-year old Weller that I keep in the garage for convenience soldering, and I use it for desoldering sm chips where use of two irons works better at preserving the component. At 700F it runs too hot for sm and too cold for big work. OK for occasional wire connection but mostly gathers dust. Ditto on having a good set of hand tools and illuminated optical enlarger. High light level required to do good work. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From srlamar at comcast.net Fri Jun 3 15:58:08 2016 From: srlamar at comcast.net (Steven Lamar) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 12:58:08 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S/P3 "Test Drive" Message-ID: I am interested in purchasing a K3S and P3 but have not had an opportunity to ?test drive? this transceiver. I live in Santa Rosa, CA. Craig at Elecraft suggested that I post this request on the Elecraft Reflector. Is there a K3S owner in Sonoma County who would permit me to spend a few minutes in your shack so I can have some face time with the K3S? I currently have an Icom IC-737 (20 years old) that is driving a KPA-500 and KAT Tuner. I hope to replace the IC-737 with either a K3S or an IC-7600 within the next few months. Thanks and 73, Steve (K6LSJ) From n6kr at elecraft.com Fri Jun 3 18:41:59 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:41:59 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S/P3 "Test Drive" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Steve, If you get down the deep south (San Mateo county, CA), feel free to stop by my place in Belmont. I'll be happy to give you a demo of the whole lineup, including the K3S, P3, and the new K-Pod. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jun 3, 2016, at 12:58 PM, Steven Lamar wrote: > I am interested in purchasing a K3S and P3 but have not had an opportunity > to ?test drive? this transceiver. I live in Santa Rosa, CA. Craig at > Elecraft suggested that I post this request on the Elecraft Reflector. Is > there a K3S owner in Sonoma County who would permit me to spend a few > minutes in your shack so I can have some face time with the K3S? I > currently have an Icom IC-737 (20 years old) that is driving a KPA-500 and > KAT Tuner. I hope to replace the IC-737 with either a K3S or an IC-7600 > within the next few months. > > Thanks and 73, > > Steve (K6LSJ) From r.tristani at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 18:49:34 2016 From: r.tristani at gmail.com (Ramon Tristani) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 18:49:34 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S/P3 "Test Drive" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oh boy! What a privilege! Ram?n E. Tristani Sr. r.tristani at gmail.com https://www.flickr.com/photos/nq9v/ www.tristaniministries.org www.tristaniphotography.com > On Jun 3, 2016, at 6:41 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > Hi Steve, > > If you get down the deep south (San Mateo county, CA), feel free to stop by my place in Belmont. I'll be happy to give you a demo of the whole lineup, including the K3S, P3, and the new K-Pod. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > On Jun 3, 2016, at 12:58 PM, Steven Lamar wrote: > >> I am interested in purchasing a K3S and P3 but have not had an opportunity >> to ?test drive? this transceiver. I live in Santa Rosa, CA. Craig at >> Elecraft suggested that I post this request on the Elecraft Reflector. Is >> there a K3S owner in Sonoma County who would permit me to spend a few >> minutes in your shack so I can have some face time with the K3S? I >> currently have an Icom IC-737 (20 years old) that is driving a KPA-500 and >> KAT Tuner. I hope to replace the IC-737 with either a K3S or an IC-7600 >> within the next few months. >> >> Thanks and 73, >> >> Steve (K6LSJ) > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to r.tristani at gmail.com From kc6cnn at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 19:09:35 2016 From: kc6cnn at gmail.com (KC6CNN) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:09:35 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 & KX2 Decoding Wish Message-ID: <1464995375561-7618395.post@n2.nabble.com> I wish there was a way to connect the KX3 or KX2 to a external monitor, say a 7 inch screen or such to have the decode text from CW/PSK/RTTY show up on the external monitor. Its great the radios decode these, but would be awesome to be able to view them on a bigger screen. And the older I get the more I would appreciate that feature. lol Gerald - KC6CNN ----- KC6CNN - Gerald K1 # 0014 K2 # 5486 K3 # 6294 KX3 # 757 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-KX2-Decoding-Wish-tp7618395.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From jeffvk4xa at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 19:15:19 2016 From: jeffvk4xa at gmail.com (Jeff Cochrane - VK4XA) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:15:19 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - Looking for a KAT3 ATU Message-ID: <1464995719518-7618396.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi everyone, I'm looking for a KAT3 ATU that you might have spare after upgrade. I don't have a lot of money but I offer to pay the postage / customs charges and a fair price for a good working unit. Please get in contact with me off list. Thanks in advance Jeff Cochrane - VK4XA ----- Jeff Cochrane - VK4XA Innisfail, QLD, Australia. K3 #4767 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Looking-for-a-KAT3-ATU-tp7618396.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From n6kr at elecraft.com Fri Jun 3 19:23:41 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:23:41 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 & KX2 Decoding Wish In-Reply-To: <1464995375561-7618395.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1464995375561-7618395.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <897AF380-458B-48F7-8711-1DDE68A213A2@elecraft.com> Hi Gerald, You could use any kind of inexpensive tablet or notebook PC for this purpose. Just run KX2 or KX3 Utility. Then click on the "Terminal" tab, and see Help for instructions. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jun 3, 2016, at 4:09 PM, KC6CNN wrote: > I wish there was a way to connect the KX3 or KX2 to a external monitor, say a > 7 inch screen or such to have the decode text from CW/PSK/RTTY show up on > the external monitor. > Its great the radios decode these, but would be awesome to be able to view > them on a bigger screen. And the older I get the more I would appreciate > that feature. lol > > Gerald - KC6CNN > > > > > > ----- > KC6CNN - Gerald > K1 # 0014 > K2 # 5486 > K3 # 6294 > KX3 # 757 > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-KX2-Decoding-Wish-tp7618395.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From lawresh at woh.rr.com Fri Jun 3 19:39:11 2016 From: lawresh at woh.rr.com (Steve) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 19:39:11 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] HFpack and the KX-Line In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <561BB376-BDD1-4EB5-B4D0-81B004381860@woh.rr.com> Wayne & All, High on my ?convenience? list, is the ability to see/use the controls of whatever radio is selected for HFpack /PM operation while one walks. As a result, this is one reason I have shunned the various military radios (weight being another major factor) and use an IC-703 with the face plate remote mounted on the chest strap connecting the shoulder straps high on the front chest (with radio in the backpack). For the KX2, I envision some sort of zipper pouch, complete with exits for the various cables, that could be suspended from the chest strap. With the zipper open, the KX2 controls are available, yet the radio is secure in the pouch. Whatever antenna is chosen can be mounted to your selected pack frame in back with light weight coax running up a shoulder strap to your back pack and antenna mounting point. Get with your KX2 pouch vendors - this should be easy to design! (Reference: Icom LC-156 pouch for 706 or 703 face plate - only better!) Steve aa8af > On Jun 3, 2016, at 11:48 AM, Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com [KX3] wrote: > > Hi all, > > HFpack is a form of pedestrian mobile (/PM) operation where the radio is secured to your body or installed in a pack in such a way that it can be used when needed without any setup. There's a dedicated Yahoo group for those interested in this ("hfpack"). This is a great source of information. HFpack operators have their own operating events, special frequencies, etc. > > The small size of the KX2 should make it ideal for HFpack operation. An op who currently use FT-817 mentioned this when we were at Dayton. The KX2 is half the weight and has twice the power output, meaning more of his weight budget could be dedicated to batteries, antennas, etc. > > The KX3 is another frequent choice for HFpackers, thanks to its expanded band coverage. 6 meters works great with small antennas, and the 2-meter option also comes in handy. > > As a frequent hiker, I often use the KX2 hand-held. But I'm interested in exploring the possibilities of pack- or belt-mounting the rig. I can also imagine a rapid-deployment whip antenna attached to the pack frame. It could be a telescoping whip such as an MFJ1820, or maybe a wire spool with a weight for tossing it into a tree. > > In the half-crazy-but-who-cares department: how about putting a small tuned loop *inside* a backpack? On a band like 17 meters, which is great for HFpack during the day, a small loop would be reasonably efficient, and could cover most of the SSB portion of the band without retuning. > > In an month or so, Scott (AK6Q) will have a light-weight, snap-in mobile mount bracket for the KX2. This should be useful for some potential HFpack installations. Beats velcro :) > > Anyone working on an HFpack installation? > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > From wunder at wunderwood.org Fri Jun 3 19:47:34 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:47:34 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] HFpack and the KX-Line In-Reply-To: <561BB376-BDD1-4EB5-B4D0-81B004381860@woh.rr.com> References: <561BB376-BDD1-4EB5-B4D0-81B004381860@woh.rr.com> Message-ID: I haven?t tried it, but this radio harness seems like it could work to carry a KX2 or KX3 with the knobs up and accessible. http://www.truenorthgear.com/catalog/products/accessories/dozer-chest-harness wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jun 3, 2016, at 4:39 PM, Steve lawresh at woh.rr.com [KX3] wrote: > > Wayne & All, > > High on my ?convenience? list, is the ability to see/use the controls of whatever radio is selected for HFpack /PM operation while one walks. As a result, this is one reason I have shunned the various military radios (weight being another major factor) and use an IC-703 with the face plate remote mounted on the chest strap connecting the shoulder straps high on the front chest (with radio in the backpack). > > For the KX2, I envision some sort of zipper pouch, complete with exits for the various cables, that could be suspended from the chest strap. With the zipper open, the KX2 controls are available, yet the radio is secure in the pouch. Whatever antenna is chosen can be mounted to your selected pack frame in back with light weight coax running up a shoulder strap to your back pack and antenna mounting point. > > Get with your KX2 pouch vendors - this should be easy to design! (Reference: Icom LC-156 pouch for 706 or 703 face plate - only better!) > > Steve > aa8af > > >> On Jun 3, 2016, at 11:48 AM, Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com [KX3] > wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> HFpack is a form of pedestrian mobile (/PM) operation where the radio is secured to your body or installed in a pack in such a way that it can be used when needed without any setup. There's a dedicated Yahoo group for those interested in this ("hfpack"). This is a great source of information. HFpack operators have their own operating events, special frequencies, etc. >> >> The small size of the KX2 should make it ideal for HFpack operation. An op who currently use FT-817 mentioned this when we were at Dayton. The KX2 is half the weight and has twice the power output, meaning more of his weight budget could be dedicated to batteries, antennas, etc. >> >> The KX3 is another frequent choice for HFpackers, thanks to its expanded band coverage. 6 meters works great with small antennas, and the 2-meter option also comes in handy. >> >> As a frequent hiker, I often use the KX2 hand-held. But I'm interested in exploring the possibilities of pack- or belt-mounting the rig. I can also imagine a rapid-deployment whip antenna attached to the pack frame. It could be a telescoping whip such as an MFJ1820, or maybe a wire spool with a weight for tossing it into a tree. >> >> In the half-crazy-but-who-cares department: how about putting a small tuned loop *inside* a backpack? On a band like 17 meters, which is great for HFpack during the day, a small loop would be reasonably efficient, and could cover most of the SSB portion of the band without retuning. >> >> In an month or so, Scott (AK6Q) will have a light-weight, snap-in mobile mount bracket for the KX2. This should be useful for some potential HFpack installations. Beats velcro :) >> >> Anyone working on an HFpack installation? >> >> 73, >> Wayne >> N6KR >> > > > __._,_.___ > Posted by: Steve > > Reply via web post ? Reply to sender? ? Reply to group? ? Start a New Topic ? Messages in this topic (2) > Have you tried the highest rated email app? > With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. > VISIT YOUR GROUP New Members 52 > ? Privacy ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use > . > > > __,_._,___ From ppauly at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 19:52:29 2016 From: ppauly at gmail.com (Peter Pauly) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 19:52:29 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] HFpack and the KX-Line In-Reply-To: References: <561BB376-BDD1-4EB5-B4D0-81B004381860@woh.rr.com> Message-ID: http://www.airsoftgi.com/mobile/images/warriorrigtanI.jpg On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:47 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: > I haven?t tried it, but this radio harness seems like it could work to > carry a KX2 or KX3 with the knobs up and accessible. > > > http://www.truenorthgear.com/catalog/products/accessories/dozer-chest-harness > < > http://www.truenorthgear.com/catalog/products/accessories/dozer-chest-harness > > > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > > > On Jun 3, 2016, at 4:39 PM, Steve lawresh at woh.rr.com [KX3] < > KX3-noreply at yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > Wayne & All, > > > > High on my ?convenience? list, is the ability to see/use the controls of > whatever radio is selected for HFpack /PM operation while one walks. As a > result, this is one reason I have shunned the various military radios > (weight being another major factor) and use an IC-703 with the face plate > remote mounted on the chest strap connecting the shoulder straps high on > the front chest (with radio in the backpack). > > > > For the KX2, I envision some sort of zipper pouch, complete with exits > for the various cables, that could be suspended from the chest strap. With > the zipper open, the KX2 controls are available, yet the radio is secure in > the pouch. Whatever antenna is chosen can be mounted to your selected pack > frame in back with light weight coax running up a shoulder strap to your > back pack and antenna mounting point. > > > > Get with your KX2 pouch vendors - this should be easy to design! > (Reference: Icom LC-156 pouch for 706 or 703 face plate - only better!) > > > > Steve > > aa8af > > > > > >> On Jun 3, 2016, at 11:48 AM, Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com n6kr at elecraft.com> [KX3] KX3-noreply at yahoogroups.com>> wrote: > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >> HFpack is a form of pedestrian mobile (/PM) operation where the radio > is secured to your body or installed in a pack in such a way that it can be > used when needed without any setup. There's a dedicated Yahoo group for > those interested in this ("hfpack"). This is a great source of information. > HFpack operators have their own operating events, special frequencies, etc. > >> > >> The small size of the KX2 should make it ideal for HFpack operation. An > op who currently use FT-817 mentioned this when we were at Dayton. The KX2 > is half the weight and has twice the power output, meaning more of his > weight budget could be dedicated to batteries, antennas, etc. > >> > >> The KX3 is another frequent choice for HFpackers, thanks to its > expanded band coverage. 6 meters works great with small antennas, and the > 2-meter option also comes in handy. > >> > >> As a frequent hiker, I often use the KX2 hand-held. But I'm interested > in exploring the possibilities of pack- or belt-mounting the rig. I can > also imagine a rapid-deployment whip antenna attached to the pack frame. It > could be a telescoping whip such as an MFJ1820, or maybe a wire spool with > a weight for tossing it into a tree. > >> > >> In the half-crazy-but-who-cares department: how about putting a small > tuned loop *inside* a backpack? On a band like 17 meters, which is great > for HFpack during the day, a small loop would be reasonably efficient, and > could cover most of the SSB portion of the band without retuning. > >> > >> In an month or so, Scott (AK6Q) will have a light-weight, snap-in > mobile mount bracket for the KX2. This should be useful for some potential > HFpack installations. Beats velcro :) > >> > >> Anyone working on an HFpack installation? > >> > >> 73, > >> Wayne > >> N6KR > >> > > > > > > __._,_.___ > > Posted by: Steve > > > Reply via web post < > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/KX3/conversations/messages/58307;_ylc=X3oDMTJyOXJxZW1zBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzc0NTIwOTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARtc2dJZAM1ODMwNwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE0NjQ5OTcxNTQ-?act=reply&messageNum=58307> > ? Reply to sender > ? Reply to group > ? 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Terms of Use > > . > > > > > > __,_._,___ > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ppauly at gmail.com > From kc6cnn at gmail.com Fri Jun 3 19:56:07 2016 From: kc6cnn at gmail.com (Gerald Manthey) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 18:56:07 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 & KX2 Decoding Wish In-Reply-To: <897AF380-458B-48F7-8711-1DDE68A213A2@elecraft.com> References: <1464995375561-7618395.post@n2.nabble.com> <897AF380-458B-48F7-8711-1DDE68A213A2@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <4A3F21D5-958C-477C-8022-5B2971E97F43@gmail.com> Yeah that would work, I have android tab. I price a windoze one. We are going on dx again to Bagdad beach again then going to green island and looking for the light weight stuff. I am hoping to get my KX2 before the island trip. We are running a K1, K2, KX3, K3 and hope the KX2. Going to be fun. Gerald KC6CNN > On Jun 3, 2016, at 6:23 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > Hi Gerald, > > You could use any kind of inexpensive tablet or notebook PC for this purpose. Just run KX2 or KX3 Utility. Then click on the "Terminal" tab, and see Help for instructions. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > >> On Jun 3, 2016, at 4:09 PM, KC6CNN wrote: >> >> I wish there was a way to connect the KX3 or KX2 to a external monitor, say a >> 7 inch screen or such to have the decode text from CW/PSK/RTTY show up on >> the external monitor. >> Its great the radios decode these, but would be awesome to be able to view >> them on a bigger screen. And the older I get the more I would appreciate >> that feature. lol >> >> Gerald - KC6CNN >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> KC6CNN - Gerald >> K1 # 0014 >> K2 # 5486 >> K3 # 6294 >> KX3 # 757 >> -- >> View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-KX2-Decoding-Wish-tp7618395.html >> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com > From KD8RQE at aol.com Fri Jun 3 19:57:08 2016 From: KD8RQE at aol.com (KD8RQE at aol.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 19:57:08 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Message-ID: <276bfc.66dcf280.44837354@aol.com> Thanks for all he replies and advice. I'm looking forward to enjoying this project. It's been quite a while since I've built anything and I remember it fondly. 73 Mike KD8RQE From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Fri Jun 3 20:05:53 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (wickedbeernut) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 17:05:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 & KX2 Decoding Wish In-Reply-To: <4A3F21D5-958C-477C-8022-5B2971E97F43@gmail.com> References: <1464995375561-7618395.post@n2.nabble.com> <897AF380-458B-48F7-8711-1DDE68A213A2@elecraft.com> <4A3F21D5-958C-477C-8022-5B2971E97F43@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1464998753068-7618402.post@n2.nabble.com> What about KX3 Companion? http://kx3companion.com Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-KX2-Decoding-Wish-tp7618395p7618402.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From n6kr at elecraft.com Fri Jun 3 20:32:17 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 17:32:17 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2 beta firmware (rev. 2.61); corrects possible DSP error, etc. Message-ID: The latest KX2 beta firmware can be found at: http://www.elecraft.com/KX2/kx2_software.htm We recommend that all KX2 owners load this revision. The package includes DSP rev. 1.46, which corrects a possible error condition. The error would be indicated by an "ERR DSP" or "ERR DSE" message on the display, odd S-meter behavior, or other symptoms. The condition is rare, but it could be inconvenient if it occurred in the field. The other reasons for this release are given below. Please see our KX2 software page (above) for instructions on loading beta releases. If you'd rather wait until it becomes a production release, no problem; that will probably happen very early next week. 73, Wayne N6KR * * * KX2 MCU 2.61 / DSP 1.46, 5-31-2016 * MONITOR LEVEL CONTROL GRANULARITY IMPROVED. * AF GAIN CONTROL GRANULARITY IMPROVED. * AUDIO-CW USER INTERFACE IMPROVEMENTS: The KX2 can emit CW characters when switches are pressed and knobs are turned, etc. Audio-CW tones can be enabled in the menu (see MENU:SW TONE), or on power-up, by holding APF along with RATE and A/B. Release RATE and A/B first, then release APF. This sets the speed to 20 WPM. The menu entry provides more speed selections. For further details, see the document, ?Elecraft KX2 Physical Description and Audio-CW User Interface.? (You'll find a link for this in the release notes for beta rev. 2.61, on our KX2 software page.) From n6kr at elecraft.com Fri Jun 3 20:38:56 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 17:38:56 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] HFpack and the KX-Line In-Reply-To: References: <561BB376-BDD1-4EB5-B4D0-81B004381860@woh.rr.com> Message-ID: <3395C55B-9EB7-4838-AA40-1E0B0FA6289C@elecraft.com> Cool, but I'm hoping to find a much more compact setup than this. Something like a "side pack" that you can open up when needed. The MH3 mic has up/down buttons, which may be all you need in SSB mode, once the band/mode/volume are all set up and the antenna matched over the full segment of interest (using the ATU if applicable). Wayne On Jun 3, 2016, at 4:47 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: > I haven?t tried it, but this radio harness seems like it could work to carry a KX2 or KX3 with the knobs up and accessible. > > http://www.truenorthgear.com/catalog/products/accessories/dozer-chest-harness > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > >> On Jun 3, 2016, at 4:39 PM, Steve lawresh at woh.rr.com [KX3] wrote: >> >> Wayne & All, >> >> High on my ?convenience? list, is the ability to see/use the controls of whatever radio is selected for HFpack /PM operation while one walks. As a result, this is one reason I have shunned the various military radios (weight being another major factor) and use an IC-703 with the face plate remote mounted on the chest strap connecting the shoulder straps high on the front chest (with radio in the backpack). >> >> For the KX2, I envision some sort of zipper pouch, complete with exits for the various cables, that could be suspended from the chest strap. With the zipper open, the KX2 controls are available, yet the radio is secure in the pouch. Whatever antenna is chosen can be mounted to your selected pack frame in back with light weight coax running up a shoulder strap to your back pack and antenna mounting point. >> >> Get with your KX2 pouch vendors - this should be easy to design! (Reference: Icom LC-156 pouch for 706 or 703 face plate - only better!) >> >> Steve >> aa8af >> >> >>> On Jun 3, 2016, at 11:48 AM, Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com [KX3] > wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> HFpack is a form of pedestrian mobile (/PM) operation where the radio is secured to your body or installed in a pack in such a way that it can be used when needed without any setup. There's a dedicated Yahoo group for those interested in this ("hfpack"). This is a great source of information. HFpack operators have their own operating events, special frequencies, etc. >>> >>> The small size of the KX2 should make it ideal for HFpack operation. An op who currently use FT-817 mentioned this when we were at Dayton. The KX2 is half the weight and has twice the power output, meaning more of his weight budget could be dedicated to batteries, antennas, etc. >>> >>> The KX3 is another frequent choice for HFpackers, thanks to its expanded band coverage. 6 meters works great with small antennas, and the 2-meter option also comes in handy. >>> >>> As a frequent hiker, I often use the KX2 hand-held. But I'm interested in exploring the possibilities of pack- or belt-mounting the rig. I can also imagine a rapid-deployment whip antenna attached to the pack frame. It could be a telescoping whip such as an MFJ1820, or maybe a wire spool with a weight for tossing it into a tree. >>> >>> In the half-crazy-but-who-cares department: how about putting a small tuned loop *inside* a backpack? On a band like 17 meters, which is great for HFpack during the day, a small loop would be reasonably efficient, and could cover most of the SSB portion of the band without retuning. >>> >>> In an month or so, Scott (AK6Q) will have a light-weight, snap-in mobile mount bracket for the KX2. This should be useful for some potential HFpack installations. Beats velcro :) >>> >>> Anyone working on an HFpack installation? >>> >>> 73, >>> Wayne >>> N6KR >>> >> >> >> __._,_.___ >> Posted by: Steve > >> Reply via web post ? Reply to sender ? Reply to group ? Start a New Topic ? Messages in this topic (2) >> Have you tried the highest rated email app? >> With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. >> VISIT YOUR GROUP New Members 52 >> ? Privacy ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use >> . >> >> >> __,_._,___ > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From wunder at wunderwood.org Fri Jun 3 20:41:41 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 17:41:41 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] HFpack and the KX-Line In-Reply-To: <3395C55B-9EB7-4838-AA40-1E0B0FA6289C@elecraft.com> References: <561BB376-BDD1-4EB5-B4D0-81B004381860@woh.rr.com> <3395C55B-9EB7-4838-AA40-1E0B0FA6289C@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <27A7CF01-5B86-4C44-A254-82F8193B2203@wunderwood.org> The KX2 is probably smaller than a Bendix-King radio, so you?ll have lots of radio harnesses to choose from. Forestry Suppliers has a few, and there are other places to find them. http://www.forestry-suppliers.com/search.asp?stext=radio%20harness wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jun 3, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > Cool, but I'm hoping to find a much more compact setup than this. Something like a "side pack" that you can open up when needed. > > The MH3 mic has up/down buttons, which may be all you need in SSB mode, once the band/mode/volume are all set up and the antenna matched over the full segment of interest (using the ATU if applicable). > > Wayne > > > On Jun 3, 2016, at 4:47 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: > >> I haven?t tried it, but this radio harness seems like it could work to carry a KX2 or KX3 with the knobs up and accessible. >> >> http://www.truenorthgear.com/catalog/products/accessories/dozer-chest-harness >> >> wunder >> K6WRU >> Walter Underwood >> CM87wj >> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) >> >>> On Jun 3, 2016, at 4:39 PM, Steve lawresh at woh.rr.com [KX3] wrote: >>> >>> Wayne & All, >>> >>> High on my ?convenience? list, is the ability to see/use the controls of whatever radio is selected for HFpack /PM operation while one walks. As a result, this is one reason I have shunned the various military radios (weight being another major factor) and use an IC-703 with the face plate remote mounted on the chest strap connecting the shoulder straps high on the front chest (with radio in the backpack). >>> >>> For the KX2, I envision some sort of zipper pouch, complete with exits for the various cables, that could be suspended from the chest strap. With the zipper open, the KX2 controls are available, yet the radio is secure in the pouch. Whatever antenna is chosen can be mounted to your selected pack frame in back with light weight coax running up a shoulder strap to your back pack and antenna mounting point. >>> >>> Get with your KX2 pouch vendors - this should be easy to design! (Reference: Icom LC-156 pouch for 706 or 703 face plate - only better!) >>> >>> Steve >>> aa8af >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 3, 2016, at 11:48 AM, Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com [KX3] > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> HFpack is a form of pedestrian mobile (/PM) operation where the radio is secured to your body or installed in a pack in such a way that it can be used when needed without any setup. There's a dedicated Yahoo group for those interested in this ("hfpack"). This is a great source of information. HFpack operators have their own operating events, special frequencies, etc. >>>> >>>> The small size of the KX2 should make it ideal for HFpack operation. An op who currently use FT-817 mentioned this when we were at Dayton. The KX2 is half the weight and has twice the power output, meaning more of his weight budget could be dedicated to batteries, antennas, etc. >>>> >>>> The KX3 is another frequent choice for HFpackers, thanks to its expanded band coverage. 6 meters works great with small antennas, and the 2-meter option also comes in handy. >>>> >>>> As a frequent hiker, I often use the KX2 hand-held. But I'm interested in exploring the possibilities of pack- or belt-mounting the rig. I can also imagine a rapid-deployment whip antenna attached to the pack frame. It could be a telescoping whip such as an MFJ1820, or maybe a wire spool with a weight for tossing it into a tree. >>>> >>>> In the half-crazy-but-who-cares department: how about putting a small tuned loop *inside* a backpack? On a band like 17 meters, which is great for HFpack during the day, a small loop would be reasonably efficient, and could cover most of the SSB portion of the band without retuning. >>>> >>>> In an month or so, Scott (AK6Q) will have a light-weight, snap-in mobile mount bracket for the KX2. This should be useful for some potential HFpack installations. Beats velcro :) >>>> >>>> Anyone working on an HFpack installation? >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> Wayne >>>> N6KR >>>> >>> >>> >>> __._,_.___ >>> Posted by: Steve > >>> Reply via web post ? Reply to sender ? Reply to group ? Start a New Topic ? Messages in this topic (2) >>> Have you tried the highest rated email app? >>> With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. >>> VISIT YOUR GROUP New Members 52 >>> ? Privacy ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use >>> . >>> >>> >>> __,_._,___ >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com > From a45wg at sy-edm.com Fri Jun 3 23:12:57 2016 From: a45wg at sy-edm.com (a45wg) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 07:12:57 +0400 Subject: [Elecraft] fldigi for Mac / K3 / KX3 / K2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: RumLogNG - gets my vote. Simple excellent software. 73s de Tim/A45WG > On 3 Jun 2016, at 20:20, Dauer, Edward wrote: > > Fumbling with the Aether logging program during the recent CQ WW WPX (CW) > convinced me that I need to bite the bullet and get a program that will do > rig control as well as logging. Posts on this reflector suggest that > fldigi is widely used, and it does seem to be usable with a Mac OS. So I > downloaded the Users Manual. It comprises 428 pages of dense computer > jargon, including a TOC of 18 pages, beginning with instructions about > configuring a sound card. Two questions. First, I operate 100% CW and I > don?t care at all for machine decoding of CW received though I do want the > program to key my transmissions using info from the keyboard log entry - > call signs, automatic S/N update, other exchange, etc.. Do I even need a > sound card to use the fldigi program? Second, is there a Cliff?s Notes > version of the operating guide accessible by computer-speak tyros? Tnx, > > Ted, KN1CBR > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to a45wg at sy-edm.com From aurich85 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 4 02:07:48 2016 From: aurich85 at yahoo.com (Luke) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 06:07:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 USB Connection Problems References: <1729299898.4717026.1465020468465.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1729299898.4717026.1465020468465.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I'm having a hard time getting my KX2 connected to the KX2 Utility. The KXUSB cable drivers are installed correctly and functioning. I have tried setting the COM port and KX2 baud rates to various values. Have tried different USB ports, two different computers, radio plugged in to external power/battery, etc.? With the KXUSB plugged in to the computer and not the radio, I can push the Test Communication button and the KXUSB cable will flash red in sequence with the software trying different baud rates. When I plug the KXUSB in to the computer AND radio, I push Test Communication and the software halts on the "Attempting to contact KX2 on port COM2 at 38400 bit/s", and the red AND green light on the cable flash 10 times and then stop. This happens regardless if the KX2 is on or off. I've tried looking up what the status lights on the cable indicate, but haven't found anything. Now the quirky thing is I was having this problem a few nights ago and finally just gave up. Next day I tried again with all the same settings and whatnot and magically it worked fine, and I was able to change the banner message, etc. but now again tonight I left everything the same and it's not working at all.? The only thing I haven't done is try a different KXUSB cable, but before I order one I figured I'd ask the collective and see if anyone had any insight. Thanks for your time! Luke?AD0KI From aj9c at indy.rr.com Sat Jun 4 08:12:43 2016 From: aj9c at indy.rr.com (Mike Kasrich) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 08:12:43 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 updates/mods Message-ID: <47d62fd0-488b-b7a8-ed75-98f7c1eab7e2@indy.rr.com> I have purchased a used KX3 with a 5400 SN. Are there any updates/mods that need to be done to bring this unit up to current production standards? Besides updating the firmware if it is not current release. Thanks Mike/AJ9C From tim at sy-edm.com Sat Jun 4 08:31:48 2016 From: tim at sy-edm.com (a45wg) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 16:31:48 +0400 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Dx Cluster Archive data Message-ID: Apologies for the bandwidth, I am trying to locate an online store/archive of DX-Cluster/DX-Spider (Not Skimmer data) for a research project I am working on. I have contacted the owner of the Dx-Cluster node than I used - but to no avail. If anyone can assist or guide me - please can you contact me off-list please. Thanks Tim - A45WG. Muscat, Sultanate of Oman From joel.b.black at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 08:41:05 2016 From: joel.b.black at gmail.com (Joel Black) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 07:41:05 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] OT - For Sale (Price Reduced) Message-ID: <98F515E6-4676-4E31-8BDA-929EE2009BE3@gmail.com> Please respond directly to me to keep list FOD down. After much contemplation and my operating habits changing, I have decided to sell my K3 (I am keeping my KX3 and have upgraded to the PX3). Here?s what I have: K3 S/N: 59xx 100W kit (bought in November 2011) KXV3A KFL3A-500 x2 (matched) KFL3A-2.7k x2 (matched) KRX3 KBPF3 KTCXO3-1 KAT3 MH2 Asking $2100 +shipping & insurance I also have all the original manuals and a Fred Cady K3 printed (mostly color as my printer was running out of ink but still quite readable) book from 2011. US sales only please. 73, Joel - W4JBB From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sat Jun 4 08:53:40 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 08:53:40 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 updates/mods In-Reply-To: <47d62fd0-488b-b7a8-ed75-98f7c1eab7e2@indy.rr.com> References: <47d62fd0-488b-b7a8-ed75-98f7c1eab7e2@indy.rr.com> Message-ID: <7fbe4d82-d328-7421-5175-bc02c72d84c6@embarqmail.com> Mike, That serial number should be up to date except for the updated heatsink (which you may or may not need). Look at http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm#kx3 to see the mod kits available for the KX3 and the serial numbers for which they are applicable. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/4/2016 8:12 AM, Mike Kasrich wrote: > I have purchased a used KX3 with a 5400 SN. Are there any updates/mods > that need to be done to bring this unit up to current production > standards? Besides updating the firmware if it is not current release. From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sat Jun 4 08:58:40 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 08:58:40 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 USB Connection Problems In-Reply-To: <1729299898.4717026.1465020468465.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1729299898.4717026.1465020468465.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1729299898.4717026.1465020468465.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0d3b71b7-315e-3fa5-f848-debc902b7d56@embarqmail.com> Luke, First make certain that the 3.5mm plug on the KXUSB cable is fully inserted into the jack - give it that little extra push. If that does not solve it, go into the menu and make certain the RS232 parameter is set to 38400. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/4/2016 2:07 AM, Luke via Elecraft wrote: > I'm having a hard time getting my KX2 connected to the KX2 Utility. The KXUSB cable drivers are installed correctly and functioning. I have tried setting the COM port and KX2 baud rates to various values. Have tried different USB ports, two different computers, radio plugged in to external power/battery, etc. > With the KXUSB plugged in to the computer and not the radio, I can push the Test Communication button and the KXUSB cable will flash red in sequence with the software trying different baud rates. When I plug the KXUSB in to the computer AND radio, I push Test Communication and the software halts on the "Attempting to contact KX2 on port COM2 at 38400 bit/s", and the red AND green light on the cable flash 10 times and then stop. This happens regardless if the KX2 is on or off. I've tried looking up what the status lights on the cable indicate, but haven't found anything. > Now the quirky thing is I was having this problem a few nights ago and finally just gave up. Next day I tried again with all the same settings and whatnot and magically it worked fine, and I was able to change the banner message, etc. but now again tonight I left everything the same and it's not working at all. > The only thing I haven't done is try a different KXUSB cable, but before I order one I figured I'd ask the collective and see if anyone had any insight. > Thanks for your time! > From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Sat Jun 4 13:01:56 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (wickedbeernut) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 10:01:56 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support Message-ID: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> The PX3 keyboard support is excellent. In August, I demonstrated mouse support with the PX3. I've been encouraging Elecraft to add mouse support to the PX3 ever since. Elecraft plans to port the thumb drive support from the P3SVGA to the PX3. This includes the ability to: ? capture a bitmap image of the PX3 display on a thumb drive ? save and restore text messages and macros to and from a thumb drive The P3SVGA may be connected to a keyboard or a thumb drive but not both at the same time. I'd like Elecraft to add USB hub support to the PX3, http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/PX3%20USB%20Hub.jpg http://www.sabrent.com/category/usb-hubs/HB-UMN4/ Hub support will allow a keyboard, mouse, thumb drive and/or remote knob to be connected to the PX3 at the same time, http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/PX3%20USB%20Knob.jpg I've demonstrated this using an Arduino microcontroller. Please take two minutes to watch this video, http://youtu.be/2rpO4LDZYf0 Of course, you could also use a 2- or 3-port hub ... whatever suits your specific needs. Imagine, ? pressing a keyboard PrtSc (Print Screen) key to capture a bitmap image of the PX3 display on a thumb drive ? using a keyboard to save / restore one of possibly many text message / macro "sets" to / from a thumb drive - where a "set" is a collection of 50 text messages and 50 macros targeting a specific operating scenario ? logging QSO's on a thumb drive - importing the QSO's into your favorite logging software by simply plugging the thumb drive into a PC or Mac ? connecting a keyboard, thumb drive and the Elecraft K?Pod (with new firmware) via the PX3 KEYBD connector ? ... Ooh, aah. This all starts with USB hub support. If you're interested in one or more of these capabilities, please share your interest with Elecraft. Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-Keyboard-Mouse-Thumb-Drive-and-Knob-Support-tp7618412.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From w7ox at socal.rr.com Sat Jun 4 13:21:28 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 10:21:28 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support In-Reply-To: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Good grief, Joe. This hobby has gotten so complex! Reading this made me think back to the KISS days -- back when we had no other choice. 73, Phil W7OX On 6/4/16 10:01 AM, wickedbeernut wrote: > The PX3 keyboard support is excellent. > > In August, I demonstrated mouse support with the PX3. I've been encouraging > Elecraft to add mouse support to the PX3 ever since. > > Elecraft plans to port the thumb drive support from the P3SVGA to the PX3. > This includes the ability to: > > ? capture a bitmap image of the PX3 display on a thumb drive > ? save and restore text messages and macros to and from a thumb drive > > The P3SVGA may be connected to a keyboard or a thumb drive but not both at > the same time. > > I'd like Elecraft to add USB hub support to the PX3, > > http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/PX3%20USB%20Hub.jpg > > http://www.sabrent.com/category/usb-hubs/HB-UMN4/ > > Hub support will allow a keyboard, mouse, thumb drive and/or remote knob to > be connected to the PX3 at the same time, > > http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/PX3%20USB%20Knob.jpg > > I've demonstrated this using an Arduino microcontroller. Please take two > minutes to watch this video, > > http://youtu.be/2rpO4LDZYf0 > > Of course, you could also use a 2- or 3-port hub ... whatever suits your > specific needs. > > Imagine, > > ? pressing a keyboard PrtSc (Print Screen) key to capture a bitmap image of > the PX3 display on a thumb drive > ? using a keyboard to save / restore one of possibly many text message / > macro "sets" to / from a thumb drive > - where a "set" is a collection of 50 text messages and 50 macros > targeting a specific operating scenario > ? logging QSO's on a thumb drive > - importing the QSO's into your favorite logging software by simply > plugging the thumb drive into a PC or Mac > ? connecting a keyboard, thumb drive and the Elecraft K?Pod (with new > firmware) via the PX3 KEYBD connector > ? ... > > Ooh, aah. This all starts with USB hub support. > > If you're interested in one or more of these capabilities, please share your > interest with Elecraft. > > Joe Stone > KF5WBO From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Sat Jun 4 13:31:44 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 12:31:44 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support In-Reply-To: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <35bdd41a-5317-6838-d5f8-db9cd9af00de@mediacombb.net> I Already have all of that. It's called a LAPTOP. What's amazing to me is that people want to turn their latest new gadget into some cobbled together replacement for something that does it ten times better and much cheaper, and then pat themselves on the back for their "ingenuity". So...the PX3 should have logging support? It's supposed to store "many" macro sets/text messages as well? Boy, we're using up firmware space right and left or do you want to store that on the Thumb drive as well and have the PX3 "boot" the radio and pan adapter while it's at it? I would simply suggest using the radio rather than sitting around thinking of ways to turn a pan adapter into a laptop. On 6/4/2016 12:01 PM, wickedbeernut wrote: > The PX3 keyboard support is excellent. > > In August, I demonstrated mouse support with the PX3. I've been encouraging > Elecraft to add mouse support to the PX3 ever since. > > Elecraft plans to port the thumb drive support from the P3SVGA to the PX3. > This includes the ability to: > > ? capture a bitmap image of the PX3 display on a thumb drive > ? save and restore text messages and macros to and from a thumb drive > > The P3SVGA may be connected to a keyboard or a thumb drive but not both at > the same time. > > I'd like Elecraft to add USB hub support to the PX3, > > http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/PX3%20USB%20Hub.jpg > > http://www.sabrent.com/category/usb-hubs/HB-UMN4/ > > Hub support will allow a keyboard, mouse, thumb drive and/or remote knob to > be connected to the PX3 at the same time, > > http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/PX3%20USB%20Knob.jpg > > I've demonstrated this using an Arduino microcontroller. Please take two > minutes to watch this video, > > http://youtu.be/2rpO4LDZYf0 > > Of course, you could also use a 2- or 3-port hub ... whatever suits your > specific needs. > > Imagine, > > ? pressing a keyboard PrtSc (Print Screen) key to capture a bitmap image of > the PX3 display on a thumb drive > ? using a keyboard to save / restore one of possibly many text message / > macro "sets" to / from a thumb drive > - where a "set" is a collection of 50 text messages and 50 macros > targeting a specific operating scenario > ? logging QSO's on a thumb drive > - importing the QSO's into your favorite logging software by simply > plugging the thumb drive into a PC or Mac > ? connecting a keyboard, thumb drive and the Elecraft K?Pod (with new > firmware) via the PX3 KEYBD connector > ? ... > > Ooh, aah. This all starts with USB hub support. > > If you're interested in one or more of these capabilities, please share your > interest with Elecraft. > > Joe Stone > KF5WBO > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-Keyboard-Mouse-Thumb-Drive-and-Knob-Support-tp7618412.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevin.stover at mediacombb.net -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From paul.wilton at tesco.net Sat Jun 4 13:32:36 2016 From: paul.wilton at tesco.net (Paul Wilton) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 18:32:36 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S audio and N1MM+ Message-ID: I?m trying to set up a K3S with N1MM+ and am having problems with the TX audio. I have connected the K3S via USB to my windows PC and with Audacity have proved that I can receive audio over the USB connection using the built-in soundcard in the K3S. However, I cannot make it go in the other direction - ie get the K3S USB soundcard to modulate the output. My desire is to get N1MM+ to be the voice keyer. I have got a headset plugged into the 3.5mm sockets on the rear of the K3S. This works. When I ask N1MM+ to transmit audio, then the K3S goes into TX. However, I cannot heard the computer generated audio in my headset - all I can hear is my own breathing into the headset mic (hence proving that that the monitor function works). Also, no RF is going out. MAIN:MIC is set to RP, MAIN:MIC+LIN is set to ON. Am incorrectly assuming that I can use the K3S soundcard in this way? If not, what am I doing wrong! 73 Paul M1CNK From rickw8zt at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 14:09:02 2016 From: rickw8zt at gmail.com (Rick Robinson) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 14:09:02 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support In-Reply-To: <35bdd41a-5317-6838-d5f8-db9cd9af00de@mediacombb.net> References: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> <35bdd41a-5317-6838-d5f8-db9cd9af00de@mediacombb.net> Message-ID: One way to look at this is one of the purposes of amateur radio is to advance the state of the art. Yes, use it for what it is is fine. But if you are one of the few who have minds capable of new ideas and how to implement them, then more power to ya. Without those we might still be using a cats whisker ! I have applied this attitude to medicine by donating to our university's Human Gift Registry. This is where medical students and professionals develop their skills and practice new ideas.As an example, my mother died years ago of a collapsed lung. Now a days it is routine to inflate a lung back to working condition. Anyway, I love my KX setup and with Elecraft, I can choose what I want. It doesn't get any better than that. On Saturday, June 4, 2016, Kevin Stover wrote: > I Already have all of that. > > It's called a LAPTOP. > > What's amazing to me is that people want to turn their latest new gadget > into some cobbled together replacement for something that does it ten times > better and much cheaper, and then pat themselves on the back for their > "ingenuity". > So...the PX3 should have logging support? It's supposed to store "many" > macro sets/text messages as well? > > Boy, we're using up firmware space right and left or do you want to store > that on the Thumb drive as well and have the PX3 "boot" the radio and pan > adapter while it's at it? > > I would simply suggest using the radio rather than sitting around thinking > of ways to turn a pan adapter into a laptop. > > On 6/4/2016 12:01 PM, wickedbeernut wrote: > >> The PX3 keyboard support is excellent. >> >> In August, I demonstrated mouse support with the PX3. I've been >> encouraging >> Elecraft to add mouse support to the PX3 ever since. >> >> Elecraft plans to port the thumb drive support from the P3SVGA to the PX3. >> This includes the ability to: >> >> ? capture a bitmap image of the PX3 display on a thumb drive >> ? save and restore text messages and macros to and from a thumb >> drive >> >> The P3SVGA may be connected to a keyboard or a thumb drive but not both at >> the same time. >> >> I'd like Elecraft to add USB hub support to the PX3, >> >> http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/PX3%20USB%20Hub.jpg >> >> http://www.sabrent.com/category/usb-hubs/HB-UMN4/ >> >> Hub support will allow a keyboard, mouse, thumb drive and/or remote knob >> to >> be connected to the PX3 at the same time, >> >> http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/PX3%20USB%20Knob.jpg >> >> I've demonstrated this using an Arduino microcontroller. Please take two >> minutes to watch this video, >> >> http://youtu.be/2rpO4LDZYf0 >> >> Of course, you could also use a 2- or 3-port hub ... whatever suits your >> specific needs. >> >> Imagine, >> >> ? pressing a keyboard PrtSc (Print Screen) key to capture a >> bitmap image of >> the PX3 display on a thumb drive >> ? using a keyboard to save / restore one of possibly many text >> message / >> macro "sets" to / from a thumb drive >> - where a "set" is a collection of 50 text messages and >> 50 macros >> targeting a specific operating scenario >> ? logging QSO's on a thumb drive >> - importing the QSO's into your favorite logging software >> by simply >> plugging the thumb drive into a PC or Mac >> ? connecting a keyboard, thumb drive and the Elecraft K?Pod (with >> new >> firmware) via the PX3 KEYBD connector >> ? ... >> >> Ooh, aah. This all starts with USB hub support. >> >> If you're interested in one or more of these capabilities, please share >> your >> interest with Elecraft. >> >> Joe Stone >> KF5WBO >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-Keyboard-Mouse-Thumb-Drive-and-Knob-Support-tp7618412.html >> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to kevin.stover at mediacombb.net >> > > > -- > R. Kevin Stover > AC0H > ARRL > FISTS #11993 > SKCC #215 > NAQCC #3441 > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rickw8zt at gmail.com -- Rick, W8ZT Sent from Gmail Mobile From nq5t at tx.rr.com Sat Jun 4 14:26:09 2016 From: nq5t at tx.rr.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 13:26:09 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support In-Reply-To: References: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> <35bdd41a-5317-6838-d5f8-db9cd9af00de@mediacombb.net> Message-ID: <5B696B5D-D749-417C-9E2E-8EF70F667BA9@tx.rr.com> Sent from my iPhone > > One way to look at this is one of the purposes of amateur radio is to > advance the state of the art. True. But there is a substantive difference between "advancing the state of the art" and the seemingly endless thirst for "just one more thing" -- which often ends up being gadgetry or complexity for its own sake ... Grant NQ5T From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sat Jun 4 14:27:02 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 14:27:02 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S audio and N1MM+ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <02b203d4-b6e2-12e2-6d40-3507383315e8@embarqmail.com> Paul, Where are the software soundcard sliders for the K3 USB CODEC set in your computer. They normally will be at 75% or more. Do you have anything plugged into the LINE-IN jack on the back of the K3. If so, that over-rides the audio from the USB CODEC. Remove the Line-In plug. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/4/2016 1:32 PM, Paul Wilton wrote: > I?m trying to set up a K3S with N1MM+ and am having problems with the TX audio. I have connected the K3S via USB to my windows PC and with Audacity have proved that I can receive audio over the USB connection using the built-in soundcard in the K3S. However, I cannot make it go in the other direction - ie get the K3S USB soundcard to modulate the output. > > My desire is to get N1MM+ to be the voice keyer. I have got a headset plugged into the 3.5mm sockets on the rear of the K3S. This works. When I ask N1MM+ to transmit audio, then the K3S goes into TX. However, I cannot heard the computer generated audio in my headset - all I can hear is my own breathing into the headset mic (hence proving that that the monitor function works). Also, no RF is going out. MAIN:MIC is set to RP, MAIN:MIC+LIN is set to ON. > > Am incorrectly assuming that I can use the K3S soundcard in this way? If not, what am I doing wrong! > > From rickw8zt at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 14:48:15 2016 From: rickw8zt at gmail.com (Rick Robinson) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 14:48:15 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support In-Reply-To: <5B696B5D-D749-417C-9E2E-8EF70F667BA9@tx.rr.com> References: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> <35bdd41a-5317-6838-d5f8-db9cd9af00de@mediacombb.net> <5B696B5D-D749-417C-9E2E-8EF70F667BA9@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: I agree. Some take the radios and want to completely go out of the intended design. I was mostly referring to the possibilities and what might be used in the future of amateur radio. But I did expand my trail friendly kx3 to a great home unit with the addition of a px3 and the amp. So guilty as charged ! On Saturday, June 4, 2016, Grant Youngman wrote: > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > One way to look at this is one of the purposes of amateur radio is to > > advance the state of the art. > > True. But there is a substantive difference between "advancing the state > of the art" and the seemingly endless thirst for "just one more thing" -- > which often ends up being gadgetry or complexity for its own sake ... > > Grant NQ5T > -- Rick, W8ZT Sent from Gmail Mobile From k2av.guy at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 14:53:05 2016 From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 14:53:05 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 USB Connection Problems In-Reply-To: <0d3b71b7-315e-3fa5-f848-debc902b7d56@embarqmail.com> References: <1729299898.4717026.1465020468465.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1729299898.4717026.1465020468465.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <0d3b71b7-315e-3fa5-f848-debc902b7d56@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Luke, When I first tried to connect my KAT500 to my PC, it didn't connect. The 3.5 mm plug was in the jack and *looked* like it was inserted all the way. But when I pushed hard on it, it went in further, and problem solved. So much stuff is purely mechanical and involves. Your list of symptoms perfectly matches my problems before I pushed the 3.5 mm plug in all the way. The other thing is that new or long-time not used plugs and jacks sometimes have a non-conductive patina on their contact surfaces. Can be solved by repeated in and out on the plug and a LOT of rotations when fully inserted. Also if you have some Deoxit on hand, a TINY drop on the tip ring and sleeve of the plug before insertion, followed by repeated insertions and rotations when inserted. I repeat, TINY drop. 73, Guy K2AV On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 8:58 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Luke, > > First make certain that the 3.5mm plug on the KXUSB cable is fully > inserted into the jack - give it that little extra push. > > If that does not solve it, go into the menu and make certain the RS232 > parameter is set to 38400. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 6/4/2016 2:07 AM, Luke via Elecraft wrote: > >> I'm having a hard time getting my KX2 connected to the KX2 Utility. The >> KXUSB cable drivers are installed correctly and functioning. I have tried >> setting the COM port and KX2 baud rates to various values. Have tried >> different USB ports, two different computers, radio plugged in to external >> power/battery, etc. >> With the KXUSB plugged in to the computer and not the radio, I can push >> the Test Communication button and the KXUSB cable will flash red in >> sequence with the software trying different baud rates. When I plug the >> KXUSB in to the computer AND radio, I push Test Communication and the >> software halts on the "Attempting to contact KX2 on port COM2 at 38400 >> bit/s", and the red AND green light on the cable flash 10 times and then >> stop. This happens regardless if the KX2 is on or off. I've tried looking >> up what the status lights on the cable indicate, but haven't found anything. >> Now the quirky thing is I was having this problem a few nights ago and >> finally just gave up. Next day I tried again with all the same settings and >> whatnot and magically it worked fine, and I was able to change the banner >> message, etc. but now again tonight I left everything the same and it's not >> working at all. >> The only thing I haven't done is try a different KXUSB cable, but before >> I order one I figured I'd ask the collective and see if anyone had any >> insight. >> Thanks for your time! >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2av.guy at gmail.com > From doug49707 at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 15:23:33 2016 From: doug49707 at gmail.com (Doug) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 15:23:33 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Krx3a Message-ID: <559C8D6E-125F-41A0-A4D4-F079A41D6132@gmail.com> Ok. I'm installing the rx in my k3. But I'm not sure how to wire it for connection to a antenna. It will be uses for split operation dxing. Any suggestions will be appreciated Wd8z. Doug Sent from my iPhone From jerry at molaver.org Sat Jun 4 15:39:04 2016 From: jerry at molaver.org (Jerry) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 19:39:04 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program Message-ID: Now that I have been operating my K3S for several months 'barefoot' (no computer) I realize I need a logging/control program. In searching the interwebby one can be overwhelmed with the myriad of software available. I would appreciate any input for my needs. I apologize if the following are pretty much standard in all programs. 1) I am primarily a dx chaser so a comprehensive log program should include auto matching to notify me if I have already worked a station and keep track of dxcc by band. 2) It should have a field for entering notes (perhaps user defined fields?) 3) It should support cw, rtty & some digital modes - which ones? I haven't a clue as I have never used a digital mode but intend to. 4) It should have support for contest operating. 5) It should be able to auto dump to LOTW. 6) I should be able to export the entire database in some readable form (suitable for Excel, etc) 7) It should be able to fully control the k3s/p3 (or is this something I should have a separate program for?) To me it seems this is the list I need but the problem is I'm not confident that I even know all the right questions to ask :( Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks Jerry, k1tgx From nr4c at widomaker.com Sat Jun 4 15:46:35 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Bill Conkling) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 15:46:35 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Krx3a In-Reply-To: <559C8D6E-125F-41A0-A4D4-F079A41D6132@gmail.com> References: <559C8D6E-125F-41A0-A4D4-F079A41D6132@gmail.com> Message-ID: What is your antenna arrangement? If you have ?REC? antenna(s) you might go one way, if you only have one antenna, just use the Main antenna. ?bc nr4c > On Jun 4, 2016, at 3:23 PM, Doug wrote: > > Ok. I'm installing the rx in my k3. But I'm not sure how to wire it for connection to a antenna. It will be uses for split operation dxing. Any suggestions will be appreciated Wd8z. Doug > > Sent from my iPhone > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From cautery at montac.com Sat Jun 4 15:49:20 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 14:49:20 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm new... but you can hardly go wrong with a properly configured installation of Ham Radio Deluxe. HRD Logbook (again, properly configured) does pretty much everything you ask and more... I WOULD however seriously consider FEEDING the DX Cluster in HRD Logbook from CC User (VE7CC). CC User gives you super control over what appears in the DX Cluster list... by band, DX origin, spotter, country, etc, etc, etc... I also use HRD for rig control too now... Tried Win4K3 (and still have it installed), but there are some bugs in it that "bugged" me too much. IMHO, it is well worth the yearly licensing fee ($99 first year, $50 or so for the second and subsequent years). 73, ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 6/4/2016 2:39 PM, Jerry wrote: > Now that I have been operating my K3S for several months 'barefoot' (no computer) I realize I need a logging/control program. In searching the interwebby one can be overwhelmed with the myriad of software available. I would appreciate any input for my needs. I apologize if the following are pretty much standard in all programs. > > 1) I am primarily a dx chaser so a comprehensive log program should include auto matching to notify me if I have already worked a station and keep track of dxcc by band. > > 2) It should have a field for entering notes (perhaps user defined fields?) > > 3) It should support cw, rtty & some digital modes - which ones? I haven't a clue as I have never used a digital mode but intend to. > > 4) It should have support for contest operating. > > 5) It should be able to auto dump to LOTW. > > 6) I should be able to export the entire database in some readable form (suitable for Excel, etc) > > 7) It should be able to fully control the k3s/p3 (or is this something I should have a separate program for?) > > To me it seems this is the list I need but the problem is I'm not confident that I even know all the right questions to ask :( > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > Thanks > Jerry, k1tgx > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to cautery at montac.com From cf at cfcorp.com Sat Jun 4 16:00:58 2016 From: cf at cfcorp.com (Cliff Frescura) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 13:00:58 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <011101d1be9b$d01a2e00$704e8a00$@com> Hi Jerry, In regard to: "4) It should have support for contest operating." Most general purpose logging programs have some contesting capabilities, but there are many aspects of contesting that really necessitate the use of a dedicated contest logging program. I would suggest you start with a dedicated general purpose logging program (my preference is DXLab - http://dxlabsuite.com/ ) and then add a dedicated contest logging program (my preference is N1MM - http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php ). 73, Cliff K3LL/6 -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 12:39 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program Now that I have been operating my K3S for several months 'barefoot' (no computer) I realize I need a logging/control program. In searching the interwebby one can be overwhelmed with the myriad of software available. I would appreciate any input for my needs. I apologize if the following are pretty much standard in all programs. 1) I am primarily a dx chaser so a comprehensive log program should include auto matching to notify me if I have already worked a station and keep track of dxcc by band. 2) It should have a field for entering notes (perhaps user defined fields?) 3) It should support cw, rtty & some digital modes - which ones? I haven't a clue as I have never used a digital mode but intend to. 4) It should have support for contest operating. 5) It should be able to auto dump to LOTW. 6) I should be able to export the entire database in some readable form (suitable for Excel, etc) 7) It should be able to fully control the k3s/p3 (or is this something I should have a separate program for?) To me it seems this is the list I need but the problem is I'm not confident that I even know all the right questions to ask :( Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks Jerry, k1tgx ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to cf at cfcorp.com From elecraftcovers at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 16:05:47 2016 From: elecraftcovers at gmail.com (Rose) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 14:05:47 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 receive antenna options Message-ID: The KE7X book on the K3 covers the antenna configurations in great detail. 73 K0PP On Jun 4, 2016 1:25 PM, "Doug" wrote: Ok. I'm installing the rx in my k3. But I'm not sure how to wire it for connection to a antenna. It will be uses for split operation dxing. Any suggestions will be appreciated Wd8z. Doug Sent from my iPhone ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to elecraftcovers at gmail.com From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sat Jun 4 16:10:27 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 16:10:27 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Krx3a In-Reply-To: <559C8D6E-125F-41A0-A4D4-F079A41D6132@gmail.com> References: <559C8D6E-125F-41A0-A4D4-F079A41D6132@gmail.com> Message-ID: <55f09ac0-9049-d3de-6e53-eebdca10bd23@embarqmail.com> Doug, How you wire the KRX3 AUX ant will depend on how you plan to use your antennas with it. Normally, the main RX and the sub RX will share the same antenna through a 3 dB splitter. You don't have to do anything special to share your single antenna. However, if you want to use a different antenna on the subRX (necessary for diversity reception), you have 2 choices. 1) If you have 2 antennas (both capable of transmit), connect the TMP cable to the KAT3 and when you select the AUX antenna for the subRX, it will use the non-transmit antenna. 2) If you have receiving only antenna(s), you would want to install the TMP cable from the KRX3 AUX jack to the BNC connector. Connect the RX antenna to that BNC jack and select AUX for the subRX. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/4/2016 3:23 PM, Doug wrote: > Ok. I'm installing the rx in my k3. But I'm not sure how to wire it for connection to a antenna. It will be uses for split operation dxing. Any suggestions will be appreciated Wd8z. Doug > From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Sat Jun 4 16:22:49 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (wickedbeernut) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 13:22:49 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support In-Reply-To: <35bdd41a-5317-6838-d5f8-db9cd9af00de@mediacombb.net> References: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> <35bdd41a-5317-6838-d5f8-db9cd9af00de@mediacombb.net> Message-ID: <1465071769251-7618428.post@n2.nabble.com> Tough crowd. > I would simply suggest using the radio rather than sitting around thinking > of ways to > turn a pan adapter into a laptop. The PX3 is already much more than just a panadapter. The PX3 already supports a keyboard. In addition to the spectrum and waterfall display, the PX3 supports up to 335 text characters ... 201 characters of received (decoded) text and 134 characters of transmitted text / text to be transmitted. The PX3 can receive text and buffer text to be transmitted at the same time. The PX3 is already capable of storing up to 50 text messages and 50 macros (PX3 and/or KX3 remote-control commands), each up to 95 characters. Each message / macro can be assigned to a keyboard key or key combination (with Shift, Alt or Ctrl). The P3 (with P3SVGA) already supports the ability to: capture a bitmap image of the P3 display on a thumb drive; and save and restore text messages and macros to and from a thumb drive. Elecraft already plans to port the P3SVGA thumb drive support to the PX3. Given the existing PX3 keyboard support, mouse support involves a minor firmware change. And this need not be a traditional mouse. This could be, for example, a mini wireless keyboard with a built-in ?touchpad? for portable operation. With USB hub support ? The P3 (with P3SVGA) currently captures a bitmap image of the P3 display on the thumb drive through a multi-level menu option. I?m simply pointing out this could be accomplished using a keyboard key (e.g., PrtSc) and the existing macro support. The P3 (with P3SVGA) currently saves and restores text messages and macros to and from a *hardcoded* file name (SVGASET.SAV). I?m simply pointing out a keyboard could be used to enter the file name allowing for many text message / macro "sets". This involves a trivial firmware change. Some of us prefer not to carry a laptop for portable operation. Given the PX3 already functions much like a laptop and weighs only 11 ounces, I typically carry the PX3 for picnic table portable operation. Personally, I?d enjoy and benefit from logging QSO?s to a PX3 thumb drive in the field. And importing the QSO?s into my logging software upon returning to the home QTH. Am I the only one? I know others operate picnic table portable with a PX3. IMO, at the home QTH in particular, the PX3 deserves / warrants a better (and remote) encoder knob such as the K?Pod. IMO, the best way to integrate the K?Pod with the PX3 (and indirectly with the KX3) is through a USB hub, freeing up the PX3 ACC1 PC port. Is anyone else interested in using a K?Pod with their PX3 / KX3? Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-Keyboard-Mouse-Thumb-Drive-and-Knob-Support-tp7618412p7618428.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From n4rp at n4rp.com Sat Jun 4 16:27:29 2016 From: n4rp at n4rp.com (Ross Primrose) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 16:27:29 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: <011101d1be9b$d01a2e00$704e8a00$@com> References: <011101d1be9b$d01a2e00$704e8a00$@com> Message-ID: <6ec43b73-7570-1aeb-6d7b-101404d1a0f1@n4rp.com> That's exactly the combination I recommend and use with my K3 (no S)... 73, Ross N4RP On 6/4/2016 4:00 PM, Cliff Frescura wrote: > Hi Jerry, > > In regard to: > > "4) It should have support for contest operating." > > Most general purpose logging programs have some contesting capabilities, but > there are many aspects of contesting that really necessitate the use of a > dedicated contest logging program. > > I would suggest you start with a dedicated general purpose logging program > (my preference is DXLab - http://dxlabsuite.com/ ) and then add a dedicated > contest logging program (my preference is N1MM - > http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php ). > > 73, > > Cliff K3LL/6 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jerry > Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 12:39 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program > > Now that I have been operating my K3S for several months 'barefoot' (no > computer) I realize I need a logging/control program. In searching the > interwebby one can be overwhelmed with the myriad of software available. I > would appreciate any input for my needs. I apologize if the following are > pretty much standard in all programs. > > 1) I am primarily a dx chaser so a comprehensive log program should > include auto matching to notify me if I have already worked a station and > keep track of dxcc by band. > > 2) It should have a field for entering notes (perhaps user defined > fields?) > > 3) It should support cw, rtty & some digital modes - which ones? I > haven't a clue as I have never used a digital mode but intend to. > > 4) It should have support for contest operating. > > 5) It should be able to auto dump to LOTW. > > 6) I should be able to export the entire database in some readable form > (suitable for Excel, etc) > > 7) It should be able to fully control the k3s/p3 (or is this something > I should have a separate program for?) > > To me it seems this is the list I need but the problem is I'm not confident > that I even know all the right questions to ask :( > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > Thanks > Jerry, k1tgx > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to cf at cfcorp.com > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n4rp at n4rp.com -- FCC Section 97.313(a) ?At all times, an amateur station must use the minimum transmitter power necessary to carry out the desired communications.? From dave.w0zf at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 16:32:05 2016 From: dave.w0zf at gmail.com (Dave Fugleberg) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2016 20:32:05 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: <011101d1be9b$d01a2e00$704e8a00$@com> References: <011101d1be9b$d01a2e00$704e8a00$@com> Message-ID: Cliff said exactly what I was going to say. DXLab suite is excellent for DXing and general purpose logging, and has all the items on your wish list (plus lots more). It is a collection of programs that each have a specific purpose, but work seamlessly together. It has excellent documentation and support, and is free to use. You can start with just the basics and add other programs as you need them. While DXKeeper (the logging part of DXLab) has some basic contest features, you're much better off using a dedicated contest logger for contests, and just importing the contacts into DXKeeper afterwards. I use N1MM+, but there are many good contest loggers. I have no interest in the above other than being a happy longtime user of them. Have fun! On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 3:02 PM Cliff Frescura wrote: > Hi Jerry, > > In regard to: > > "4) It should have support for contest operating." > > Most general purpose logging programs have some contesting capabilities, > but > there are many aspects of contesting that really necessitate the use of a > dedicated contest logging program. > > I would suggest you start with a dedicated general purpose logging program > (my preference is DXLab - http://dxlabsuite.com/ ) and then add a > dedicated > contest logging program (my preference is N1MM - > http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php ). > > 73, > > Cliff K3LL/6 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of > Jerry > Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 12:39 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program > > Now that I have been operating my K3S for several months 'barefoot' (no > computer) I realize I need a logging/control program. In searching the > interwebby one can be overwhelmed with the myriad of software available. I > would appreciate any input for my needs. I apologize if the following are > pretty much standard in all programs. > > 1) I am primarily a dx chaser so a comprehensive log program should > include auto matching to notify me if I have already worked a station and > keep track of dxcc by band. > > 2) It should have a field for entering notes (perhaps user defined > fields?) > > 3) It should support cw, rtty & some digital modes - which ones? I > haven't a clue as I have never used a digital mode but intend to. > > 4) It should have support for contest operating. > > 5) It should be able to auto dump to LOTW. > > 6) I should be able to export the entire database in some readable > form > (suitable for Excel, etc) > > 7) It should be able to fully control the k3s/p3 (or is this something > I should have a separate program for?) > > To me it seems this is the list I need but the problem is I'm not confident > that I even know all the right questions to ask :( > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > Thanks > Jerry, k1tgx > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message > delivered to cf at cfcorp.com > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dave.w0zf at gmail.com > From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Sat Jun 4 16:51:36 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 15:51:36 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support In-Reply-To: References: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> <35bdd41a-5317-6838-d5f8-db9cd9af00de@mediacombb.net> Message-ID: <1d0c41b3-0420-53fc-28bd-33b3590abd9c@mediacombb.net> Road Apples! How is turning the PX3 into a not very good facsimile of a laptop "Advancing the State of the Art"? It's not a new idea either USB has been on radios for a decade or longer, same with Ethernet. The fact is you can't do everything the OP wants to do to a PX3 without raising the price significantly. Or...is it supposed to be free...in the true spirit of advancing the state of the art and the spirit of Ham Radio? On 6/4/2016 1:09 PM, Rick Robinson wrote: > One way to look at this is one of the purposes of amateur radio is to > advance the state of the art. Yes, use it for what it is is fine. But if > you are one of the few who have minds capable of new ideas and how to > implement them, then more power to ya. Without those we might still be > using a cats whisker ! -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Sat Jun 4 16:56:08 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 15:56:08 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: <011101d1be9b$d01a2e00$704e8a00$@com> References: <011101d1be9b$d01a2e00$704e8a00$@com> Message-ID: <66e26656-cd35-43cb-4198-304a29a8161b@mediacombb.net> Ditto. On 6/4/2016 3:00 PM, Cliff Frescura wrote: > Hi Jerry, > > In regard to: > > "4) It should have support for contest operating." > > Most general purpose logging programs have some contesting capabilities, but > there are many aspects of contesting that really necessitate the use of a > dedicated contest logging program. > > I would suggest you start with a dedicated general purpose logging program > (my preference is DXLab - http://dxlabsuite.com/ ) and then add a dedicated > contest logging program (my preference is N1MM - > http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php ). > > 73, > > Cliff K3LL/6 > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From jkramer at iafrica.com Sat Jun 4 17:15:01 2016 From: jkramer at iafrica.com (John) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 23:15:01 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support In-Reply-To: <1465071769251-7618428.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> <35bdd41a-5317-6838-d5f8-db9cd9af00de@mediacombb.net> <1465071769251-7618428.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <990517D6-8F39-4798-A915-F0CBFC764D56@iafrica.com> Joe Your third paragraph interests me - possible future mouse support for the PX3. That would be very useful for point and click tuning?as happens with the Flex. 73 John On 4 Jun 2016, at 10:22 PM, wickedbeernut wrote: Tough crowd. > I would simply suggest using the radio rather than sitting around thinking > of ways to > turn a pan adapter into a laptop. The PX3 is already much more than just a panadapter. The PX3 already supports a keyboard. In addition to the spectrum and waterfall display, the PX3 supports up to 335 text characters ... 201 characters of received (decoded) text and 134 characters of transmitted text / text to be transmitted. The PX3 can receive text and buffer text to be transmitted at the same time. The PX3 is already capable of storing up to 50 text messages and 50 macros (PX3 and/or KX3 remote-control commands), each up to 95 characters. Each message / macro can be assigned to a keyboard key or key combination (with Shift, Alt or Ctrl). The P3 (with P3SVGA) already supports the ability to: capture a bitmap image of the P3 display on a thumb drive; and save and restore text messages and macros to and from a thumb drive. Elecraft already plans to port the P3SVGA thumb drive support to the PX3. Given the existing PX3 keyboard support, mouse support involves a minor firmware change. And this need not be a traditional mouse. This could be, for example, a mini wireless keyboard with a built-in ?touchpad? for portable operation. With USB hub support ? The P3 (with P3SVGA) currently captures a bitmap image of the P3 display on the thumb drive through a multi-level menu option. I?m simply pointing out this could be accomplished using a keyboard key (e.g., PrtSc) and the existing macro support. The P3 (with P3SVGA) currently saves and restores text messages and macros to and from a *hardcoded* file name (SVGASET.SAV). I?m simply pointing out a keyboard could be used to enter the file name allowing for many text message / macro "sets". This involves a trivial firmware change. Some of us prefer not to carry a laptop for portable operation. Given the PX3 already functions much like a laptop and weighs only 11 ounces, I typically carry the PX3 for picnic table portable operation. Personally, I?d enjoy and benefit from logging QSO?s to a PX3 thumb drive in the field. And importing the QSO?s into my logging software upon returning to the home QTH. Am I the only one? I know others operate picnic table portable with a PX3. IMO, at the home QTH in particular, the PX3 deserves / warrants a better (and remote) encoder knob such as the K?Pod. IMO, the best way to integrate the K?Pod with the PX3 (and indirectly with the KX3) is through a USB hub, freeing up the PX3 ACC1 PC port. Is anyone else interested in using a K?Pod with their PX3 / KX3? Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-Keyboard-Mouse-Thumb-Drive-and-Knob-Support-tp7618412p7618428.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jkramer at iafrica.com From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Sat Jun 4 17:35:21 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (wickedbeernut) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 14:35:21 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support In-Reply-To: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1465076121376-7618434.post@n2.nabble.com> > How is turning the PX3 into a not very good facsimile of a laptop "Advancing the State > of the Art"? It's not a new idea either USB has been on radios for a > decade or longer, > same with Ethernet. The fact is you can't do everything the OP wants to do > to a PX3 > without raising the price significantly. Or...is it supposed to be > free...in the true > spirit of advancing the state of the art and the spirit of Ham Radio? You do understand the PX3 already has a USB port, correct? I?m talking about plugging a $5.99 USB hub into the existing PX3 USB port in order to leverage the existing keyboard and thumb drive support at the same time. There?s no change to the PX3 hardware, only a minor firmware change. I?d call that free. It may not advance the state of the art, but it?s certainly in the true spirit of Ham Radio. Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-Keyboard-Mouse-Thumb-Drive-and-Knob-Support-tp7618412p7618434.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From vk2bj.au at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 17:40:04 2016 From: vk2bj.au at gmail.com (Barry Simpson) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 07:40:04 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Jerry I have used Turbolog 4 for many years and this covers all of your requirements except full rig control. However, my experience is that it is better to use a separate dedicated program for contests. I use SD for all contesting and it is very simple to export the SD log to TL4. 73 BTW I always get immediate responses from the designers/purveyors of both programs to any problems or queries that I have and both continue to be updated regularly. Sent from my iPad > On 5 Jun 2016, at 05:39, Jerry wrote: > > Now that I have been operating my K3S for several months 'barefoot' (no computer) I realize I need a logging/control program. In searching the interwebby one can be overwhelmed with the myriad of software available. I would appreciate any input for my needs. I apologize if the following are pretty much standard in all programs. > > 1) I am primarily a dx chaser so a comprehensive log program should include auto matching to notify me if I have already worked a station and keep track of dxcc by band. > > 2) It should have a field for entering notes (perhaps user defined fields?) > > 3) It should support cw, rtty & some digital modes - which ones? I haven't a clue as I have never used a digital mode but intend to. > > 4) It should have support for contest operating. > > 5) It should be able to auto dump to LOTW. > > 6) I should be able to export the entire database in some readable form (suitable for Excel, etc) > > 7) It should be able to fully control the k3s/p3 (or is this something I should have a separate program for?) > > To me it seems this is the list I need but the problem is I'm not confident that I even know all the right questions to ask :( > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > Thanks > Jerry, k1tgx > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to vk2bj at optusnet.com.au From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Sat Jun 4 18:08:06 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 15:08:06 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7fea82d6-e8ef-9bb3-7905-231e7446ddbe@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Sat,6/4/2016 12:39 PM, Jerry wrote: > Any suggestions would be appreciated. General loggers are lousy for contests, and contest loggers are lousy for general operating. The best "general" logger is DXKeeper, which is part of the DXLab Suite. The best contest logger is N1MM Plus. Both are FREE, both are quite stable, mature, and well supported. DXKeeper has everything you could possibly want in a general logging program, including keeping track of awards, uploading and downloading to/from LOTW and eQSL. N1MM Plus is the Rolls Royce of contest loggers. It is mostly used for CW, SSB, and RTTY, but it supports software modules that do other digital modes. At the end of each contest, export your log as ADIF, then import it into DXKeeper. It's as easy as that. DXKeeper is ONLY a logger and award tracker. It does not send and RX CW, or any other mode. But another module in the DXLab Suite do that for some RTTY, PSK, and some other modes, and another module called Commander does radio control from your computer. 73, Jim K9YC From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Sat Jun 4 18:22:22 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (wickedbeernut) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 15:22:22 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support In-Reply-To: <1465076121376-7618434.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> <1465076121376-7618434.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1465078942207-7618437.post@n2.nabble.com> > Your third paragraph interests me - possible future mouse support for the PX3. > That would be very useful for point and click tuning?as happens with the > Flex. Exactly! I refer to this as Mouse-n-Click QSY. Assuming mouse support is added to the PX3 firmware ? If you?re only interested in a mouse, you can plug the mouse wireless dongle directly into the PX3 USB port. If you want to leverage a keyboard and a mouse, you either need to use a keyboard and mouse combo which share the same wireless dongle or Elecraft also needs to add USB hub firmware support (which was the primary motivation behind this thread). Joe Stone KF5WBO P.S. For those interested in getting into the technical weeds ? The PX3 currently leverages the HID (Human Interface Device) protocol. In the HID protocol, there are two entities: the "host" and the "device". The device is the entity that directly interacts with a human, such as a keyboard or mouse. The host communicates with the device and receives input data from the device on actions performed by the human. The host (PX3) receives input data from the device (keyboard, mouse, knob, ?) in the form of a HID report. A keyboard HID report looks like, struct KEYBOARD { struct { unsigned byte leftCtrl : 1; unsigned byte leftShift : 1; unsigned byte leftAlt : 1; unsigned byte leftGUI : 1; unsigned byte rightCtrl : 1; unsigned byte rightShift : 1; unsigned byte rightAlt : 1; unsigned byte rightGUI : 1; }; unsigned byte reserved; unsigned byte keys[6]; }; A majority of keyboards use this exact HID report. This is why the PX3 is able to interoperate with so many different keyboards without a firmware change or special ?device drivers?. A mouse HID report looks like, struct MOUSE { struct { unsigned byte leftButton : 1; unsigned byte rightButton : 1; unsigned byte middleButton : 1; unsigned byte unused : 5; }; signed byte dX; // delta X-coordinate (+/-) signed byte dY; // delta Y-coordinate (+/-) }; The mouse HID report is communicated to the PX3 in the same way as a keyboard HID report. PX3 mouse support simply involves translating the mouse HID report into the appropriate PX3 and KX3 commands. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-Keyboard-Mouse-Thumb-Drive-and-Knob-Support-tp7618412p7618437.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From alsopb at comcast.net Sat Jun 4 18:24:41 2016 From: alsopb at comcast.net (brian) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2016 22:24:41 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: <7fea82d6-e8ef-9bb3-7905-231e7446ddbe@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <7fea82d6-e8ef-9bb3-7905-231e7446ddbe@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <57535529.1040403@comcast.net> My only complaint about these programs DXLAB, HRD et al is that they essentially hog all of the computer display. It would be nice if someone would come up with something compact which occupies about 25% of the screen and hides everything else till one really needs it. I have lots more things going on that need screen space. Multiple monitors is not an option due to real estate limitations. Neck turning to another monitor isn't welcome either. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 6/4/2016 22:08 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > On Sat,6/4/2016 12:39 PM, Jerry wrote: >> Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > General loggers are lousy for contests, and contest loggers are lousy > for general operating. The best "general" logger is DXKeeper, which is > part of the DXLab Suite. The best contest logger is N1MM Plus. Both are > FREE, both are quite stable, mature, and well supported. > > DXKeeper has everything you could possibly want in a general logging > program, including keeping track of awards, uploading and downloading > to/from LOTW and eQSL. N1MM Plus is the Rolls Royce of contest loggers. > It is mostly used for CW, SSB, and RTTY, but it supports software > modules that do other digital modes. At the end of each contest, export > your log as ADIF, then import it into DXKeeper. It's as easy as that. > > DXKeeper is ONLY a logger and award tracker. It does not send and RX CW, > or any other mode. But another module in the DXLab Suite do that for > some RTTY, PSK, and some other modes, and another module called > Commander does radio control from your computer. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to alsopb at comcast.net From mveeneman at yahoo.com Sat Jun 4 18:26:00 2016 From: mveeneman at yahoo.com (Marc Veeneman) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 18:26:00 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support In-Reply-To: <1465076121376-7618434.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> <1465076121376-7618434.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <8A6EE076-16E0-4A40-8C8A-2942CA196B23@yahoo.com> Joe, I sure hope Wayne and Paul are listening to you. They have a long list of things to do with the PX3/KX3 but your ideas should rise to the top of the list because they'll result in more sales for Elecraft. This is the kind of low cost innovation and improvement they need while they figure out how to combat the IC-7300 where the PX3 and KXPA100 are effectively in the same box with only power and RF cords protruding. And the IC-7300 is just the first thrust of the Big Three Japanese players into our SDR future. I'm confident Eric and Wayne and their idea-rich support group will meet the challenge but it's not going to be easy and I'm glad to be retired from that competitive stress. While we wait for the K5, these are immediate benefits Elecraft can provide to the existing customer base -- something the Big Three Japanese folk aren't prepared for. -- Marc W8SDG On Jun 4, 2016, at 5:35 PM, wickedbeernut wrote: >> How is turning the PX3 into a not very good facsimile of a laptop > "Advancing the State >> of the Art"? It's not a new idea either USB has been on radios for a >> decade or longer, >> same with Ethernet. The fact is you can't do everything the OP wants to do >> to a PX3 >> without raising the price significantly. Or...is it supposed to be >> free...in the true >> spirit of advancing the state of the art and the spirit of Ham Radio? > > You do understand the PX3 already has a USB port, correct? I?m talking > about plugging a $5.99 USB hub into the existing PX3 USB port in order to > leverage the existing keyboard and thumb drive support at the same time. > There?s no change to the PX3 hardware, only a minor firmware change. I?d > call that free. It may not advance the state of the art, but it?s certainly > in the true spirit of Ham Radio. > > Joe Stone > KF5WBO > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-Keyboard-Mouse-Thumb-Drive-and-Knob-Support-tp7618412p7618434.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to mveeneman at yahoo.com From wunder at wunderwood.org Sat Jun 4 18:27:42 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 15:27:42 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: <7fea82d6-e8ef-9bb3-7905-231e7446ddbe@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <7fea82d6-e8ef-9bb3-7905-231e7446ddbe@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: I?m not sure that DXKeeper does *everything* one might want. It does not seem to support an easy export to SOTA (Summits on the Air) and it does not run on Mac. RUMlogNG does both of those. Different strokes for different ops, I guess. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jun 4, 2016, at 3:08 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > > On Sat,6/4/2016 12:39 PM, Jerry wrote: >> Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > General loggers are lousy for contests, and contest loggers are lousy for general operating. The best "general" logger is DXKeeper, which is part of the DXLab Suite. The best contest logger is N1MM Plus. Both are FREE, both are quite stable, mature, and well supported. > > DXKeeper has everything you could possibly want in a general logging program, including keeping track of awards, uploading and downloading to/from LOTW and eQSL. N1MM Plus is the Rolls Royce of contest loggers. It is mostly used for CW, SSB, and RTTY, but it supports software modules that do other digital modes. At the end of each contest, export your log as ADIF, then import it into DXKeeper. It's as easy as that. > > DXKeeper is ONLY a logger and award tracker. It does not send and RX CW, or any other mode. But another module in the DXLab Suite do that for some RTTY, PSK, and some other modes, and another module called Commander does radio control from your computer. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From Hamshack at N4ST.com Sat Jun 4 18:55:27 2016 From: Hamshack at N4ST.com (Jim - N4ST) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 18:55:27 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: References: <7fea82d6-e8ef-9bb3-7905-231e7446ddbe@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <005701d1beb4$34a256a0$9de703e0$@N4ST.com> Haven't used DXLabs for several years. Does it have the ability to create buttons that can be programmed to run K3S macro language? __________ 73, Jim - N4ST From ron at cobi.biz Sat Jun 4 19:18:39 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 16:18:39 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: <005701d1beb4$34a256a0$9de703e0$@N4ST.com> References: <7fea82d6-e8ef-9bb3-7905-231e7446ddbe@audiosystemsgroup.com> <005701d1beb4$34a256a0$9de703e0$@N4ST.com> Message-ID: <002d01d1beb7$6d8b66c0$48a23440$@biz> Efficient fast control of a K3S or K3 is the rationale behind the K-NOB. Sitting right next to your keyboard so your hand doesn't have to move more than an inch or two, it has 8 switches that can launch up to 16 macros on the K3 in addition to the knob that tunes VFO A, B or the OFS (RIT/XIT). 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim - N4ST Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 3:55 PM To: 'Walter Underwood'; 'Elecraft List' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program Haven't used DXLabs for several years. Does it have the ability to create buttons that can be programmed to run K3S macro language? __________ 73, Jim - N4ST ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at cobi.biz From cf at cfcorp.com Sat Jun 4 19:28:32 2016 From: cf at cfcorp.com (Cliff Frescura) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 16:28:32 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: <005701d1beb4$34a256a0$9de703e0$@N4ST.com> References: <7fea82d6-e8ef-9bb3-7905-231e7446ddbe@audiosystemsgroup.com> <005701d1beb4$34a256a0$9de703e0$@N4ST.com> Message-ID: <016101d1beb8$cee614a0$6cb23de0$@com> Yes, check out: http://www.dxlabsuite.com/commander/Help/CommandSequences.htm Also, the DXLab reflector at dxlab at yahoogroups.com is very active, much like this one. 73, Cliff K3LL/6 -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim - N4ST Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 3:55 PM To: 'Walter Underwood'; 'Elecraft List' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program Haven't used DXLabs for several years. Does it have the ability to create buttons that can be programmed to run K3S macro language? __________ 73, Jim - N4ST ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to cf at cfcorp.com From Hamshack at N4ST.com Sat Jun 4 19:37:13 2016 From: Hamshack at N4ST.com (Jim - N4ST) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 19:37:13 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: <002d01d1beb7$6d8b66c0$48a23440$@biz> References: <7fea82d6-e8ef-9bb3-7905-231e7446ddbe@audiosystemsgroup.com> <005701d1beb4$34a256a0$9de703e0$@N4ST.com> <002d01d1beb7$6d8b66c0$48a23440$@biz> Message-ID: <006001d1beba$0b30d840$219288c0$@N4ST.com> I plan on getting a K-NOB. But, I also like my software programmable buttons on HRD which are labeled, for this old brain which can't always remember what button does what. __________ 73, Jim - N4ST -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 19:19 To: 'Elecraft List' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program Efficient fast control of a K3S or K3 is the rationale behind the K-NOB. Sitting right next to your keyboard so your hand doesn't have to move more than an inch or two, it has 8 switches that can launch up to 16 macros on the K3 in addition to the knob that tunes VFO A, B or the OFS (RIT/XIT). 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim - N4ST Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 3:55 PM To: 'Walter Underwood'; 'Elecraft List' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program Haven't used DXLabs for several years. Does it have the ability to create buttons that can be programmed to run K3S macro language? __________ 73, Jim - N4ST ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at cobi.biz ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hamshack at n4st.com From neilmartinsenburrell at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 19:51:51 2016 From: neilmartinsenburrell at gmail.com (Neil Martinsen-Burrell) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 18:51:51 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 and Linux contest logging In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For my first time ever, I have a computer connected to my radio! (Thanks Elecraft for the parts and great instructions for building the KIO2 interface cable.) Now my problem is how to achieve my desired behavior with that connected Linux computer. My initial goal is to have the computer communicate with the radio for CW contesting. Can anyone here tell me of a solution that has worked for them? My setup is a small dual-core Intel Atom desktop running Ubuntu Linux, connected from a real serial port (/dev/ttyS0) via the Elecraft cable to the K2. I tested rig control with the rigctl program, fldigi, and K2Remote under WINE. Everything appears to work well (except I don't think that I was using fldigi correctly). In particular, I was able to send CW with both rigctl (hamlib) and K2Remote. I have used Trlog for Linux before for contest logging, but I was not able to send CW from within Trlog using only the serial data connection to the K2. Is that possible or not? Do I need a serial port keying circuit as well? I have also used N1MM before for contest logging, even under WINE on Linux. >From searching online, it appears that N1MM+ will not run under WINE. When I went to look for the old version of N1MM that I had used in the past, I found that N1MMclassic.hamdocs.com is no longer online. Does anyone know how to get an old version of N1MM logger that will work with Linux under WINE? Are there any K2 owners who use Linux computers for sending CW from a contest logger? What do you do that works? -Neil N0FN From w7ox at socal.rr.com Sat Jun 4 19:57:22 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 16:57:22 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 and Linux contest logging In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oh no, Neil -- you've gone over to the Dark Side ;-) 73, Phil W7OX On 6/4/16 4:51 PM, Neil Martinsen-Burrell wrote: > For my first time ever, I have a computer connected to my radio! > -Neil N0FN From dave.w0zf at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 20:58:38 2016 From: dave.w0zf at gmail.com (Dave Fugleberg) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2016 00:58:38 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: <006001d1beba$0b30d840$219288c0$@N4ST.com> References: <7fea82d6-e8ef-9bb3-7905-231e7446ddbe@audiosystemsgroup.com> <005701d1beb4$34a256a0$9de703e0$@N4ST.com> <002d01d1beb7$6d8b66c0$48a23440$@biz> <006001d1beba$0b30d840$219288c0$@N4ST.com> Message-ID: To K1TGX- I have a K3 (not K3S), but the integration with DXLab is about the same. The part of DXLab that integrates with the radio is called Commander. Once Commander is configured to talk to the radio, you can start up DXKeeper and it will find it. To N4ST- yes, Commander has buttons and sliders that are easily programmed to run macros on the K3/K3S. There are a bunch of examples available on the DXLab wiki site, or you can roll your own. To K3KO, I agree that screen real estate is precious (no matter how many monitors one has). However, one thing I like about DXLab is that you can minimize the windows you're not actively using. For example, you need only the small 'capture' window open to effectively log contacts, and it will pull in the relevant info from the radio, your log, etc. even if the other modules are minimized. On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 6:37 PM Jim - N4ST wrote: > I plan on getting a K-NOB. > But, I also like my software programmable buttons on HRD which are labeled, > for this old brain which can't always remember what button does what. > > __________ > 73, > Jim - N4ST > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron > D'Eau Claire > Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 19:19 > To: 'Elecraft List' > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program > > Efficient fast control of a K3S or K3 is the rationale behind the K-NOB. > > Sitting right next to your keyboard so your hand doesn't have to move more > than an inch or two, it has 8 switches that can launch up to 16 macros on > the K3 in addition to the knob that tunes VFO A, B or the OFS (RIT/XIT). > > 73, Ron AC7AC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim > - > N4ST > Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 3:55 PM > To: 'Walter Underwood'; 'Elecraft List' > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program > > Haven't used DXLabs for several years. > Does it have the ability to create buttons that can be programmed to run > K3S > macro language? > > __________ > 73, > Jim - N4ST > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message > delivered to ron at cobi.biz > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message > delivered to hamshack at n4st.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dave.w0zf at gmail.com > From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 22:54:00 2016 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 05:54:00 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] Krx3a In-Reply-To: <559C8D6E-125F-41A0-A4D4-F079A41D6132@gmail.com> References: <559C8D6E-125F-41A0-A4D4-F079A41D6132@gmail.com> Message-ID: <692e27eb-37b4-8d79-db88-10012e567a41@gmail.com> One of the really nice features of the book by Fred Cady, KE7X, on the K3/K3S is that he has diagrams showing every imaginable setup of TX and RX antennas with/without the KRX3. The book is available at as a PDF, and Elecraft has it as a paperback as well. It is in my opinion one of the best K3 accessories you can get! 73, Vic, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 4 Jun 2016 22:23, Doug wrote: > Ok. I'm installing the rx in my k3. But I'm not sure how to wire it > for connection to a antenna. It will be uses for split operation > dxing. Any suggestions will be appreciated Wd8z. Doug > From tim at sy-edm.com Sat Jun 4 23:03:31 2016 From: tim at sy-edm.com (a45wg) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 07:03:31 +0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 and Linux contest logging In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Neil - 2 Great choices here. Elecraft and Linux. If you want a full contest CW system then you can configure TRLinux. I would go easy on running things under Wine - as depending upon what DLL?s have been used - effects how the emulation will work. If you really really need to use a Windows application and are having in Wine - then consider using a Virtual Machine (Oracle VirtualBox is free and VERY reliable). I did recompile get running TLF (Try Left Foot). If you can program .. Just a little bit?. Then getting a CW capability using Python is about 2 hours work (Less if I send you the source code). 73s de Tim - A45WG > On 5 Jun 2016, at 03:51, Neil Martinsen-Burrell wrote: > > For my first time ever, I have a computer connected to my radio! (Thanks > Elecraft for the parts and great instructions for building the KIO2 > interface cable.) Now my problem is how to achieve my desired behavior with > that connected Linux computer. > > My initial goal is to have the computer communicate with the radio for CW > contesting. Can anyone here tell me of a solution that has worked for them? > > My setup is a small dual-core Intel Atom desktop running Ubuntu Linux, > connected from a real serial port (/dev/ttyS0) via the Elecraft cable to > the K2. I tested rig control with the rigctl program, fldigi, and K2Remote > under WINE. Everything appears to work well (except I don't think that I > was using fldigi correctly). In particular, I was able to send CW with both > rigctl (hamlib) and K2Remote. > > I have used Trlog for Linux before for contest logging, but I was not able > to send CW from within Trlog using only the serial data connection to the > K2. Is that possible or not? Do I need a serial port keying circuit as > well? > > I have also used N1MM before for contest logging, even under WINE on Linux. > From searching online, it appears that N1MM+ will not run under WINE. When > I went to look for the old version of N1MM that I had used in the past, I > found that N1MMclassic.hamdocs.com is no longer online. Does anyone know > how to get an old version of N1MM logger that will work with Linux under > WINE? > > Are there any K2 owners who use Linux computers for sending CW from a > contest logger? What do you do that works? > > -Neil N0FN > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to a45wg at sy-edm.com From n7cqr at arrl.net Sun Jun 5 02:35:53 2016 From: n7cqr at arrl.net (Dan Presley) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 23:35:53 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 inaugural qso! Message-ID: Ok-I bit the bullet and got the last KX2 today from Eric at the Seapac (Oregon) hamfest. I took it home tonight and a bit later I got around to firing it up for an inaugural qso. I was tuning on 40 and heard a clean and fast signal but missed the call the first time, I sent mine and he came right back-FW2JJ dx from Wallis Island! 5W into my delta loop. I think I'm gonna like this little radio-but I already knew that -currently owning K2 #1010 and a KX3...summer SOTA with the loop antenna is coming up. Thanks guys for a wonderful little rig! Dan Presley N7CQR n7cqr at arrl.net From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Sun Jun 5 02:51:11 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 23:51:11 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: References: <7fea82d6-e8ef-9bb3-7905-231e7446ddbe@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <056561d5-b46c-2d46-7437-9b7d87ebc9a5@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Sat,6/4/2016 3:27 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: > I?m not sure that DXKeeper does*everything* one might want. It does not seem to support an easy export to SOTA (Summits on the Air) That's something you might suggest to Dave (AA6YQ, the author) on his email reflector. He tends to respond to any post within a half day or so, and he's still adding features to his suite that folks ask for. 73, Jim K9YC From jwebsterlsu at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 04:15:51 2016 From: jwebsterlsu at gmail.com (John W Webster) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 01:15:51 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Announcement & Reports Message-ID: <83F8A44D-8B57-46BA-B244-20518E59F471@gmail.com> Please consider joining the weekly Elecraft SSB Net this Sunday, June 5, 2016 on 14.303.5 at 18:00z (UTC). All are welcome, particularly those using an Elecraft K2, KX2, KX3, K3 or K3S and/or attachments. Eric, WB9JNZ, is net control from IL. 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KG6DRW Roger SC K3 1318 KK4JSS/7 Paul AZ Yaesu 857 From joel.b.black at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 08:03:39 2016 From: joel.b.black at gmail.com (Joel Black) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 07:03:39 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3/PX3] Bonding Message-ID: <37F563C6-7ADD-4CD6-BBEC-0394A563769F@gmail.com> I figured out most of my problems with all the spikes on the PX3 - the switching P/S in my iMac. To a lesser extent, I can hear the MFJ-4125 switching P/S I use to power the KX3 and PX3. I cannot remember if I tried looking at the spectrum using the Astron RS-35 as a power source and plugging in the 4125 or not. I will try that today. I did use the RX SHFT and was able to move a huge spike off the carrier. Does RX SHFT still nullify the roofing filter or was that fixed in a F/W update? I?m pretty sure I can bond the KX3, PX3, and MFJ-4125 but I don?t have a *clue* how to bond the iMac. It?s a late 2012 27? iMac. It?s an all-in-one with *no* external screws. It?s the model with the ?pregnant? bulge in the back. However, if it means I have to go to a Windows computer, I?ll live with the noise or build a Hackintosh. I also use this computer for other things - editing video, etc. I *did* try my wife?s Mac Book Pro with the power supply plugged in and I did not notice the P/S noise on the PX3; however, her computer is not powerful enough to edit video unless you have time to wait. ;) Just to make sure I understand what I need to do: 1. Bond the KX3 to the power supply. 2. Bond the KX3 to the PX3. 3. Bond the KX3 to the computer (somehow). 4. Bond the KX3 to the sound card (in my case, a Focusrite 2i2). Trying to use ASCII to draw, I?m guessing it should look like this: PX3????KX3???MFJ-4125 / \ / \ iMac Focusrite 2i2 My KX3 antenna connection goes to a 4-way switch to switch between my OCF, NVIS, vertical, and dummy load. Does the KX3 need to be bonded to that as well? All of the feed lines run up through the wall, into the attic, and out a soffit vent to surge protectors attached to a ground rod. That ground rod is bonded to house ground. The OCF and the NVIS are on a fiberglass pole in the middle of the back yard. There is no ground rod there. The vertical is over to the side and is bonded to a ground rod there. That ground rod is not bonded but, from my reading, it should be. Does this look/sound right? Please be critical. I cannot learn unless you tell me where I screwed up. I have pretty thick skin. ;) 73, Joel - W4JBB From lists at subich.com Sun Jun 5 08:18:26 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 08:18:26 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: <056561d5-b46c-2d46-7437-9b7d87ebc9a5@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <7fea82d6-e8ef-9bb3-7905-231e7446ddbe@audiosystemsgroup.com> <056561d5-b46c-2d46-7437-9b7d87ebc9a5@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <71336c0c-045e-c185-3f6e-3e08909b22b9@subich.com> > On Sat,6/4/2016 3:27 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: >> I?m not sure that DXKeeper does*everything* one might want. It does >> not seem to support an easy export to SOTA (Summits on the Air) DXKeeper provides export in ADIF format. In this day, any program that deals with log data and fails to accept ADIF input is seriously deficient. I would suggest the issue lies with SOTA. DXKeeper also provides export in TDF/CSV (with and without headler line) but the user needs to create a log display that shows the data (columns) to be exported in the proper order. 73, ... Joe, W4TV From jerry at molaver.org Sun Jun 5 08:32:38 2016 From: jerry at molaver.org (Jerry) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 12:32:38 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] logging/control question - Many thanks! Message-ID: To all who emailed me directly and/or responded here. I have some very valuable feedback to sift through now and I'm sure I will choose one (or more) of the suggestions for a logging and control program. 73 Jerry, k1tgx From k4ia at aol.com Sun Jun 5 08:42:01 2016 From: k4ia at aol.com (Buck) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 08:42:01 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3/PX3] Bonding In-Reply-To: <37F563C6-7ADD-4CD6-BBEC-0394A563769F@gmail.com> References: <37F563C6-7ADD-4CD6-BBEC-0394A563769F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <167a1d42-7b15-deb5-4324-e16f22ba7692@aol.com> Here is the authority on the issue. http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf Have you put ferrite on the cables from the iMac and the switching power supply? You've used "star" grounding around the KX3. Try bonding everything to everything - you want to provide a low-impedance parallel path from case to case everywhere there is a connection. So, there should be a bond between the soundcard and the iMac and the soundcard and power supply. Also the iMac and soundcard to the PX3. Your diagram should look more like a spider web. Are the interconnecting cables grounded to the chassis or the circuit board? You'll have to open some things up and see if there is the "pin 1 problem" where the cable's ground is on the circuit board and not the chassis. I would look for a YouTube video on how to open up that iMac. I am sure someone has posted one. K4ia Buck Honor Roll 335 8BDXCC On 6/5/2016 8:03 AM, Joel Black wrote: > I figured out most of my problems with all the spikes on the PX3 - the switching P/S in my iMac. To a lesser extent, I can hear the MFJ-4125 switching P/S I use to power the KX3 and PX3. I cannot remember if I tried looking at the spectrum using the Astron RS-35 as a power source and plugging in the 4125 or not. I will try that today. I did use the RX SHFT and was able to move a huge spike off the carrier. Does RX SHFT still nullify the roofing filter or was that fixed in a F/W update? > > I?m pretty sure I can bond the KX3, PX3, and MFJ-4125 but I don?t have a *clue* how to bond the iMac. It?s a late 2012 27? iMac. It?s an all-in-one with *no* external screws. It?s the model with the ?pregnant? bulge in the back. However, if it means I have to go to a Windows computer, I?ll live with the noise or build a Hackintosh. I also use this computer for other things - editing video, etc. > > I *did* try my wife?s Mac Book Pro with the power supply plugged in and I did not notice the P/S noise on the PX3; however, her computer is not powerful enough to edit video unless you have time to wait. ;) > > Just to make sure I understand what I need to do: > > 1. Bond the KX3 to the power supply. > 2. Bond the KX3 to the PX3. > 3. Bond the KX3 to the computer (somehow). > 4. Bond the KX3 to the sound card (in my case, a Focusrite 2i2). > > Trying to use ASCII to draw, I?m guessing it should look like this: > > PX3????KX3???MFJ-4125 > / \ > / \ > iMac Focusrite 2i2 > > > My KX3 antenna connection goes to a 4-way switch to switch between my OCF, NVIS, vertical, and dummy load. Does the KX3 need to be bonded to that as well? All of the feed lines run up through the wall, into the attic, and out a soffit vent to surge protectors attached to a ground rod. That ground rod is bonded to house ground. The OCF and the NVIS are on a fiberglass pole in the middle of the back yard. There is no ground rod there. The vertical is over to the side and is bonded to a ground rod there. That ground rod is not bonded but, from my reading, it should be. > > Does this look/sound right? Please be critical. I cannot learn unless you tell me where I screwed up. I have pretty thick skin. ;) > > 73, > Joel - W4JBB > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k4ia at aol.com From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Sun Jun 5 08:53:56 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 07:53:56 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re: logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: <638ad1ce-afdd-5a3b-9a14-17105965149e@mediacombb.net> References: <638ad1ce-afdd-5a3b-9a14-17105965149e@mediacombb.net> Message-ID: -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 07:53:29 -0500 From: Kevin Stover To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net DX Lab supports log import/export in ADIF format. Every Ham Radio logging program that I know of supports ADIF export/import. If SOTA does not support ADIF import then it's a SOTA problem. On 6/4/2016 5:27 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: > I?m not sure that DXKeeper does *everything* one might want. It does not seem to support an easy export to SOTA (Summits on the Air) and it does not run on Mac. RUMlogNG does both of those. > > Different strokes for different ops, I guess. > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > >> On Jun 4, 2016, at 3:08 PM, Jim Brown wrote: >> >> On Sat,6/4/2016 12:39 PM, Jerry wrote: >>> Any suggestions would be appreciated. >> General loggers are lousy for contests, and contest loggers are lousy for general operating. The best "general" logger is DXKeeper, which is part of the DXLab Suite. The best contest logger is N1MM Plus. Both are FREE, both are quite stable, mature, and well supported. >> >> DXKeeper has everything you could possibly want in a general logging program, including keeping track of awards, uploading and downloading to/from LOTW and eQSL. N1MM Plus is the Rolls Royce of contest loggers. It is mostly used for CW, SSB, and RTTY, but it supports software modules that do other digital modes. At the end of each contest, export your log as ADIF, then import it into DXKeeper. It's as easy as that. >> >> DXKeeper is ONLY a logger and award tracker. It does not send and RX CW, or any other mode. But another module in the DXLab Suite do that for some RTTY, PSK, and some other modes, and another module called Commander does radio control from your computer. >> >> 73, Jim K9YC >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevin.stover at mediacombb.net -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sun Jun 5 09:14:22 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 09:14:22 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3/PX3] Bonding In-Reply-To: <37F563C6-7ADD-4CD6-BBEC-0394A563769F@gmail.com> References: <37F563C6-7ADD-4CD6-BBEC-0394A563769F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <504eff8b-e42d-25bd-568c-36753d223dad@embarqmail.com> Joel, Good progress. Yes, the roofing filter is not usable with the 8kHz shift engaged. This is not a firmware problem, it is a hardware problem. Think of it this way - the "IF" for the KX3 is at baseband (audio frequency range), and that is where the roofing filter works - in other words, it is an audio range filter, but installed at the IF rather than in the audio chain. When the 8kHz shift is engaged, the "IF" changes to 8kHz and that is too high for the audio range roofing filter. On the bonding, you are on the right path. Bond along the path of your audio cables or along the paths of the coax. You imply that you have several ground rods driven. Unless they are connected back to the house Utility Ground rod, you may have a safety issue on your hands. All ground rods should be connected to the Utility Ground by #6 (minimum) or #4 (preferred) copper wire. See the Safety chapter in the later ARRL Handbooks. A fault in the AC wiring of your home or green-wire grounded appliances can cause a significant potential difference between isolated grounds, perhaps even lethal. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/5/2016 8:03 AM, Joel Black wrote: > Does RX SHFT still nullify the roofing filter or was that fixed in a F/W update? > > > My KX3 antenna connection goes to a 4-way switch to switch between my OCF, NVIS, vertical, and dummy load. Does the KX3 need to be bonded to that as well? All of the feed lines run up through the wall, into the attic, and out a soffit vent to surge protectors attached to a ground rod. That ground rod is bonded to house ground. The OCF and the NVIS are on a fiberglass pole in the middle of the back yard. There is no ground rod there. The vertical is over to the side and is bonded to a ground rod there. That ground rod is not bonded but, from my reading, it should be. > > Does this look/sound right? Please be critical. I cannot learn unless you tell me where I screwed up. I have pretty thick skin. ;) > > 73, > Joel - W4JBB > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com From vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk Sun Jun 5 09:27:57 2016 From: vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk (Johnny Siu) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 13:27:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] FS: KFL3A-2.1K 2.1 kHz, 8-pole filter References: <1261997781.3935126.1465133277032.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1261997781.3935126.1465133277032.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hello Elecraft, I have a??KFL3A-2.1K ?2.1 kHz, 8-pole filter surplus to my requirement. ?My price is USD109 inclusive of shipping by registered air mail to major cities in the world. ?The filter will come with all the installation hardware, If interested, please email me off-the-list vr2xmc at yahoo dot com dot hk 73 Johnny VR2XMC From jkramer at iafrica.com Sun Jun 5 09:35:28 2016 From: jkramer at iafrica.com (John) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:35:28 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3/PX3] Bonding In-Reply-To: <167a1d42-7b15-deb5-4324-e16f22ba7692@aol.com> References: <37F563C6-7ADD-4CD6-BBEC-0394A563769F@gmail.com> <167a1d42-7b15-deb5-4324-e16f22ba7692@aol.com> Message-ID: Can?t do that - with the iMac the power supply is built in?it?s an all-in-one. On 5 Jun 2016, at 2:42 PM, Buck via Elecraft wrote: Here is the authority on the issue. http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf Have you put ferrite on the cables from the iMac and the switching power supply? You've used "star" grounding around the KX3. Try bonding everything to everything - you want to provide a low-impedance parallel path from case to case everywhere there is a connection. So, there should be a bond between the soundcard and the iMac and the soundcard and power supply. Also the iMac and soundcard to the PX3. Your diagram should look more like a spider web. Are the interconnecting cables grounded to the chassis or the circuit board? You'll have to open some things up and see if there is the "pin 1 problem" where the cable's ground is on the circuit board and not the chassis. I would look for a YouTube video on how to open up that iMac. I am sure someone has posted one. K4ia Buck Honor Roll 335 8BDXCC From mike.ab3ap at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 09:53:15 2016 From: mike.ab3ap at gmail.com (Mike Markowski) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 09:53:15 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 and Linux contest logging In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57542ECB.2090504@gmail.com> Neil, I'm far from a hard core contester but enjoy DXCC, Field Day, etc. For me the best solution has been xlog along with hamlib & cwdaemon. I made a small NPN transistor-based circuit in an Altoids tin to do serial port based PTT keying for cwdaemon. (I picked up an Edgeport usb-to-serial converter on ebay for $20.) It's a simple set up and works well for my level of contesting. It also has the advantage of keying any rig. I use it with my K1, though of course hamlib can't interact with that rig. Good luck and 73, Mike ab3ap On 06/04/2016 07:51 PM, Neil Martinsen-Burrell wrote: > For my first time ever, I have a computer connected to my radio! > > [...] > > Are there any K2 owners who use Linux computers for sending CW from a > contest logger? What do you do that works? > > -Neil N0FN From fred at fmeco.com Sun Jun 5 10:25:19 2016 From: fred at fmeco.com (Fred Moore) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 10:25:19 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3/PX3] Bonding In-Reply-To: References: <37F563C6-7ADD-4CD6-BBEC-0394A563769F@gmail.com> <167a1d42-7b15-deb5-4324-e16f22ba7692@aol.com> Message-ID: <9554db60-c901-8217-ec34-96e0c3bd3f97@fmeco.com> much noise comes from and iMac from the USB cables, beads will greatly reduce the noise... Fred On 6/5/16 9:35 AM, John wrote: > Can?t do that - with the iMac the power supply is built in?it?s an all-in-one. > > > > > On 5 Jun 2016, at 2:42 PM, Buck via Elecraft wrote: > > Here is the authority on the issue. http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf > > Have you put ferrite on the cables from the iMac and the switching power supply? > > You've used "star" grounding around the KX3. Try bonding everything to everything - you want to provide a low-impedance parallel path from case to case everywhere there is a connection. So, there should be a bond between the soundcard and the iMac and the soundcard and power supply. Also the iMac and soundcard to the PX3. Your diagram should look more like a spider web. > > Are the interconnecting cables grounded to the chassis or the circuit board? You'll have to open some things up and see if there is the "pin 1 problem" where the cable's ground is on the circuit board and not the chassis. > > I would look for a YouTube video on how to open up that iMac. I am sure someone has posted one. > > K4ia > Buck > Honor Roll 335 > 8BDXCC > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to fred at fmeco.com -- Fred Moore email: fred at fmeco.com fred at safes.com phone: 321-217-8699 From w4ish at w4ish.net Sun Jun 5 10:26:21 2016 From: w4ish at w4ish.net (Bill) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 10:26:21 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support In-Reply-To: <1465078942207-7618437.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> <1465076121376-7618434.post@n2.nabble.com> <1465078942207-7618437.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <0259FCDA-62CE-4240-8391-0AB96153545A@w4ish.net> Exactly what I have been looking for and trying to design and build! I will use an Arduino Mega and a USB host shield to put this together! Thanks for showing the idea. Now, when Elecraft puts in the software, a portable KX3 will be more useful since we can program all kinds of macros to be accessed from the keyboard. Thanks! Thumb crafted from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2016, at 6:22 PM, wickedbeernut wrote: >> From bob at hogbytes.com Sun Jun 5 10:41:26 2016 From: bob at hogbytes.com (Bob N3MNT) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 07:41:26 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support In-Reply-To: <0259FCDA-62CE-4240-8391-0AB96153545A@w4ish.net> References: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> <1465076121376-7618434.post@n2.nabble.com> <1465078942207-7618437.post@n2.nabble.com> <0259FCDA-62CE-4240-8391-0AB96153545A@w4ish.net> Message-ID: <1465137686667-7618462.post@n2.nabble.com> Joe Please share your Arduino code. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-Keyboard-Mouse-Thumb-Drive-and-Knob-Support-tp7618412p7618462.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From kp4y at yahoo.com Sun Jun 5 11:01:55 2016 From: kp4y at yahoo.com (Robert Vargas-KP4Y) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 11:01:55 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support In-Reply-To: <0259FCDA-62CE-4240-8391-0AB96153545A@w4ish.net> References: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> <1465076121376-7618434.post@n2.nabble.com> <1465078942207-7618437.post@n2.nabble.com> <0259FCDA-62CE-4240-8391-0AB96153545A@w4ish.net> Message-ID: <253AA71C-9D03-4AC8-B180-B6ED6BA3623A@yahoo.com> Joe, I commend you for your ingenuity and experimentation efforts. As a PX3 user, I'm very interested in some of these ideas. The only thing that I hate about the PX3 is the need to tap the "SELECT" button to QSY to the marker frequency. Many times I end up moving the PX3 all over the table while trying to tap this button. Please don't get discourage by some rude people on this reflector. This is basically the same group of "contradictorians" and kool aid drinkers that will never suggest or let alone try anything to advance the state of art. 73, Robert-KP4Y/W4 Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 5, 2016, at 10:26 AM, Bill wrote: > > Exactly what I have been looking for and trying to design and build! I will use an Arduino Mega and a USB host shield to put this together! Thanks for showing the idea. Now, when Elecraft puts in the software, a portable KX3 will be more useful since we can program all kinds of macros to be accessed from the keyboard. Thanks! > > Thumb crafted from my iPhone > > On Jun 4, 2016, at 6:22 PM, wickedbeernut wrote: > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kp4y at yahoo.com From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Sun Jun 5 11:20:18 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (wickedbeernut) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 08:20:18 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support In-Reply-To: <0259FCDA-62CE-4240-8391-0AB96153545A@w4ish.net> References: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> <1465076121376-7618434.post@n2.nabble.com> <1465078942207-7618437.post@n2.nabble.com> <0259FCDA-62CE-4240-8391-0AB96153545A@w4ish.net> Message-ID: <1465140018249-7618464.post@n2.nabble.com> > Exactly what I have been looking for and trying to design and build! I will use > an Arduino Mega and a USB host shield to put this together! Thanks for > showing > the idea. Now, when Elecraft puts in the software, a portable KX3 will be > more > useful since we can program all kinds of macros to be accessed from the > keyboard. Thanks! You?re welcome, Bill. I demonstrated keyboard and mouse support for the PX3 back in August, prior to the time the PX3 added native keyboard and text message / macro support. I also demonstrated automatically callsign recognition using the following regular expression, ^([BFGIKMNTW]|[A-Z0-9]{2})[0-9][A-Z0-9]{0,3}[A-Z]$ Here is a whitepaper which describes this in more detail, http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/Mouse-n-ClickQSY.pdf The whitepaper includes a sample of the PoC (Proof of Concept) Mouse-n-Click QSY Arduino firmware. Now, I use the native PX3 keyboard and text message / macro support, but continue to rely on my Arduino for mouse and remote knob support, http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/PX3%20USB%20Knob.jpg If we can convince Elecraft to add mouse / remote knob and USB hub support (in addition to the planned thumb drive support), I hope to retire my Arduino altogether and operate picnic table portable with only the PX3 and KX3. Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-Keyboard-Mouse-Thumb-Drive-and-Knob-Support-tp7618412p7618464.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From dlrwild1 at verizon.net Sun Jun 5 11:26:57 2016 From: dlrwild1 at verizon.net (dlrwild1 at verizon.net) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2016 11:26:57 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FS: K3/K3S weighted knobs Message-ID: <08AED28EC450480586FF902E1A305F2D@hamroomPpc> FS: weighted VFO A plus VFO B knobs for the K3 or K3S, brand new sealed in original carton. Black powder coated with aluminum inserts. ASKING: $150 shipped with insurance. Contact Bob, K3SRO at dlrwild1 at verizon.net From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Sun Jun 5 11:31:28 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (wickedbeernut) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 08:31:28 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support In-Reply-To: <1465137686667-7618462.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> <1465076121376-7618434.post@n2.nabble.com> <1465078942207-7618437.post@n2.nabble.com> <0259FCDA-62CE-4240-8391-0AB96153545A@w4ish.net> <1465137686667-7618462.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1465140688628-7618466.post@n2.nabble.com> > Please share your Arduino code. Hi Bob, The whitepaper includes a sample of the PoC (Proof of Concept) Mouse-n-Click QSY Arduino firmware from August, http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/Mouse-n-ClickQSY.pdf If you still have questions, feel free to E-mail me off-list. Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-Keyboard-Mouse-Thumb-Drive-and-Knob-Support-tp7618412p7618466.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Sun Jun 5 11:31:55 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 10:31:55 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re: K2 and Linux contest logging In-Reply-To: <4717e1d1-0d6d-5b38-36cd-7ce9340fc8fd@mediacombb.net> References: <4717e1d1-0d6d-5b38-36cd-7ce9340fc8fd@mediacombb.net> Message-ID: <4327d70f-547f-257d-9648-8d1f2db1479d@mediacombb.net> -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 and Linux contest logging Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 10:29:29 -0500 From: Kevin Stover To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net TLF or XTLF connected to a K1EL WinKey. That is a contest only solution. For general logging and other stuff you can use the Linux equivalent of HRD, CQRLog. The Winkey plugs in the key jack on the K2 which you have set for Hand keying. Both TLF and XTLF support Hamlib so you can do rig control through a serial or USB port on the computer. Be aware that the DB9 connector on the K2 IS NOT A SERIAL PORT. DO NOT CONNECT A SERIAL CABLE TO THAT PORT. You can find directions for building the appropriate cable on the Elecraft website or the instructions for the KIO2. The cable building instructions begin at page thirteen in my manual. On 6/5/2016 8:53 AM, Mike Markowski wrote: > Neil, > > I'm far from a hard core contester but enjoy DXCC, Field Day, etc. > For me the best solution has been xlog along with hamlib & cwdaemon. > I made a small NPN transistor-based circuit in an Altoids tin to do > serial port based PTT keying for cwdaemon. (I picked up an Edgeport > usb-to-serial converter on ebay for $20.) It's a simple set up and > works well for my level of contesting. > > It also has the advantage of keying any rig. I use it with my K1, > though of course hamlib can't interact with that rig. > > Good luck and 73, > Mike ab3ap > > On 06/04/2016 07:51 PM, Neil Martinsen-Burrell wrote: >> For my first time ever, I have a computer connected to my radio! >> >> [...] >> >> Are there any K2 owners who use Linux computers for sending CW from a >> contest logger? What do you do that works? >> >> -Neil N0FN > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevin.stover at mediacombb.net > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From lists at subich.com Sun Jun 5 11:42:34 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 11:42:34 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support In-Reply-To: <1465140018249-7618464.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> <1465076121376-7618434.post@n2.nabble.com> <1465078942207-7618437.post@n2.nabble.com> <0259FCDA-62CE-4240-8391-0AB96153545A@w4ish.net> <1465140018249-7618464.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: On 6/5/2016 11:20 AM, wickedbeernut wrote: > If we can convince Elecraft to add mouse / remote knob and USB hub > support (in addition to the planned thumb drive support), I hope to > retire my Arduino altogether and operate picnic table portable with > only the PX3 and KX3. Don't limit it to just the KX3/PX3 ... mouse and thumb drive support would be welcome in the K3/K3S and P3 particularly since the K-NOB is not apparently going to be able to control the P3 marker/QSY. 73, ... Joe, W4TV From ko5v at earthlink.net Sun Jun 5 11:49:09 2016 From: ko5v at earthlink.net (Jim KO5V) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 09:49:09 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [Elecraft] K2 and Linux contest logging Message-ID: <13902155.1465141749738.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I cannot directly answer your questions about logging programs with Ubuntu, but I can say that Oracle Virtual Box running XP has worked well for me - a LOT better than attempting to run some programs with Wine. I must also say that I did go back to Ubuntu 12.4 after a later upgrade lobotomized my machine, so I am a bit behind the curve. I need to spend some time and see if I can upgrade to something a bit more current, but the last upgrade was a disaster! Good luck, and let us know what you find out, 73, Jim KO5V K2 7225 From frantz at pwpconsult.com Sun Jun 5 12:02:39 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 09:02:39 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support In-Reply-To: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Adding hub support will also probably allow the use of Apple USB keyboards. They have built-in hubs, which is probably why they don't work with the P3/PX3. (Says the man who has several lying around just looking for uses. At least I can use them with my BeagleBone and Raspberry Pi.) 73 Bill AE6JV On 6/4/16 at 10:01 AM, kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (wickedbeernut) wrote: >I'd like Elecraft to add USB hub support to the PX3, ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Since the IBM Selectric, keyboards have gotten 408-356-8506 | steadily worse. Now we have touchscreen keyboards. www.pwpconsult.com | Can we make something even worse? From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Sun Jun 5 12:22:51 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2016 08:22:51 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program Message-ID: <201606051622.u55GMq6q015393@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> Barely dare ask, but is there a logging program suited for VHF logging? My logs are simply excel spreadsheets and cover: No. MO/DY/YR TIME CALLSIGN GRID LOCATION DXCC WAS FREQ MODE QSL-RX QSL-SENT Last two columns track QSLs received "X" or sent "MO/DA/YR" Especially would be nice to determine with callsign entry if I had worked the station, previously. MY log is an initial contact log and I do not enter repeat contacts. Present use is all manual entry and search. Grid is six digit locator. e.g. on 2m-eme I have 438 initial contacts (distinct callsigns). So far I run contests on paper with pencil. Eme and VHF contests normally are not so fast and furious as on HF. But a log that saves frequency, mode and date info while one enters time and call would be nice on contests, especially if it would detect a dupe. Be most handy tallying score and entering contest log. Cabrillo conversion would be nice for contests. I keep separate logs by band (only logging 6m+ contacts) 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Sun Jun 5 12:26:14 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (wickedbeernut) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 09:26:14 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support In-Reply-To: <253AA71C-9D03-4AC8-B180-B6ED6BA3623A@yahoo.com> References: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> <1465076121376-7618434.post@n2.nabble.com> <1465078942207-7618437.post@n2.nabble.com> <0259FCDA-62CE-4240-8391-0AB96153545A@w4ish.net> <253AA71C-9D03-4AC8-B180-B6ED6BA3623A@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1465143974117-7618472.post@n2.nabble.com> I commend you for your ingenuity and experimentation efforts. [js] Thank you, Robert. I try to prototype each idea before presenting it to Elecraft in order to gain a better appreciation for what?s involved. I try to focus on ideas which offer the most bang for the firmware buck, building on existing Elecraft capabilities. As a PX3 user, I'm very interested in some of these ideas. The only thing that I hate about the PX3 is the need to tap the "SELECT" button to QSY to the marker frequency. Many times I end up moving the PX3 all over the table while trying to tap this button. [js] I agree completely. I had the *exact* same problem. You either need to ?bolt? the PX3 to the table or hold it in one hand while turning / tapping the encoder knob with the other hand. [js] A $10 wireless mouse solves the problem ? assuming Elecraft is willing to add mouse firmware support to the PX3. Tapping the left mouse button QSY?s the KX3 to the marker frequency. However, I imagine Elecraft rather sell K?Pod?s. This is likely why we haven?t seen mouse firmware support with the PX3 (and P3). It?s clearly a marketing decision and not a technical challenge. [js] Personally, I prefer a remote knob. I?d be willing to spend $250 for a K?Pod if its firmware were modified to work in conjunction with the PX3. Please don't get discourage by some rude people on this reflector. This is basically the same group of "contradictorians" and kool aid drinkers that will never suggest or let alone try anything to advance the state of art. [js] Don?t worry. I?m thick-skinned. I hold patents for ideas which are less novel. Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-Keyboard-Mouse-Thumb-Drive-and-Knob-Support-tp7618412p7618472.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From davidahrendts at me.com Sun Jun 5 12:30:00 2016 From: davidahrendts at me.com (David Ahrendts) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2016 09:30:00 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] XLR Audio Cable to K3S Message-ID: Am I correct here: I?m building an audio cable for the K3S ? 3-pin XLR from the mich to the 8-pin K3S input (pin diagram on page 13 of the Owner?s manual). And here?s a Wiki on the XLR pins: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XLR_connector XLR pin #1 (ground) to K3S 8-pin #7 and #8, both ground. The connector shell should be grounded also for best RF protection, yes? XLR pin #2 to K3S 8-pin #1, mich audio David A., KK6DA, Los Angeles David Ahrendts davidahrendts at me.com From kt5d at charter.net Sun Jun 5 12:47:19 2016 From: kt5d at charter.net (Gee) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 12:47:19 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New products Message-ID: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> We have seen a remake of the K3 in the form of the K3s. Now we see the remake of the KX3 in the form of the KX2. So when are we going to see something really new from Elecraft? Surely the possibilities have not been exhausted. Touch screen GUI, VHF/UHF exclusive transceiver, 1.5 KW amp and tuner, new modes (is amateur radio video dead?). A great American company could be even greater by expanding it's product line with new things, not variations on the same thing. Sent from my iPad From buddy at brannan.name Sun Jun 5 12:57:20 2016 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 12:57:20 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> Message-ID: With the K3s, point taken. It's an upgraded K3. With the KX2, it's not a replacement for the KX3 in the same way the K3s was a replacement for the K3. So I'm thinking your assessment isn't exactly fair. Pass the Flavor-Aide, please. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: 814-860-3194 Mobile: 814-431-0962 Email: buddy at brannan.name > On Jun 5, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Gee wrote: > > We have seen a remake of the K3 in the form of the K3s. Now we see the remake of the KX3 in the form of the KX2. So when are we going to see something really new from Elecraft? Surely the possibilities have not been exhausted. Touch screen GUI, VHF/UHF exclusive transceiver, 1.5 KW amp and tuner, new modes (is amateur radio video dead?). A great American company could be even greater by expanding it's product line with new things, not variations on the same thing. > > Sent from my iPad > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to buddy at brannan.name From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Sun Jun 5 12:57:21 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (wickedbeernut) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 09:57:21 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support In-Reply-To: References: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> <1465076121376-7618434.post@n2.nabble.com> <1465078942207-7618437.post@n2.nabble.com> <0259FCDA-62CE-4240-8391-0AB96153545A@w4ish.net> <1465140018249-7618464.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1465145841666-7618475.post@n2.nabble.com> > Don't limit it to just the KX3/PX3 ... mouse and thumb drive support > would be welcome in the K3/K3S and P3 particularly since the K-NOB is > not apparently going to be able to control the P3 marker/QSY. [js] You?re absolutely correct, Joe. I?m assuming the PX3 and P3 / P3SVGA share a similar code (firmware) base. [js] The P3 (with P3SVGA) already supports a thumb drive, at least in terms of capturing a bitmap image of the P3 display and saving / restoring text messages and macros to / from a thumb drive. If you?re looking for the P3 to natively support a thumb drive (and/or mouse) without the P3SVGA, that?s a different story. [js] I don?t own a K3 / K3S so I haven?t specifically looked at the K?Pod constraints related to the P3. My approach to integrating the K?Pod with the PX3 (with Mouse-n-Click QSY) will also work with the P3 / P3SVGA. [js] I have very specific thoughts on a scaled back, lower-cost version of the K?Pod (same packaging, no switches, only a knob, preferably wireless) targeting the PX3 (and P3). However, I?m trying to refrain from derailing this ?firmware-only? thread. If you?d like to discuss the possibility of a K?Nob, let?s start a new thread. Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-Keyboard-Mouse-Thumb-Drive-and-Knob-Support-tp7618412p7618475.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From w7ox at socal.rr.com Sun Jun 5 13:12:22 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 10:12:22 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> Message-ID: <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> Gee, So far Elecraft has done a good job of providing new products with great support for which there is an ample mainstream market -- a good business model. And focusing on products for which there is a good market is important. Amateur radio video: How big would that market be? Ditto for VHF/UHF exclusive transceiver, though that might go further than your video suggestion. And I believe the 1.5 kW amp/tuner topic was discussed extensively and conclusively here at some time in the past 12 months. Sure, new products are always welcome. But companies have failed by producing new products for which no market materializes. And, first and foremost, I want Elecraft to be around for another 17 years! 73, Phil W7OX On 6/5/16 9:47 AM, Gee wrote: > We have seen a remake of the K3 in the form of the K3s. Now we see the remake of the KX3 in the form of the KX2. So when are we going to see something really new from Elecraft? Surely the possibilities have not been exhausted. Touch screen GUI, VHF/UHF exclusive transceiver, 1.5 KW amp and tuner, new modes (is amateur radio video dead?). A great American company could be even greater by expanding it's product line with new things, not variations on the same thing. > > Sent from my iPad From nq5t at tx.rr.com Sun Jun 5 13:15:58 2016 From: nq5t at tx.rr.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 12:15:58 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support In-Reply-To: <1465143974117-7618472.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> <1465076121376-7618434.post@n2.nabble.com> <1465078942207-7618437.post@n2.nabble.com> <0259FCDA-62CE-4240-8391-0AB96153545A@w4ish.net> <253AA71C-9D03-4AC8-B180-B6ED6BA3623A@yahoo.com> <1465143974117-7618472.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Is it no longer possible to have a relatively polite disagreement about anything with anyone without some ugly comment to follow? > This is > basically the same group of "contradictorians" and kool aid drinkers that > will never suggest or let alone try anything to advance the state of art. > From kevinr at coho.net Sun Jun 5 13:17:10 2016 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr at coho.net) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 10:17:10 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement Message-ID: <98cfeaba-243c-0b7d-a732-9684e77ac88f@coho.net> Good Morning, Conditions have remained poor most of the week with the sun losing all of its spots for the last two days. The last two days have also brought very hot temperatures. I doubt there is a correlation :) However, if you want to test your path to the Pacific Northwest - Please join us on: 14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday) 7045 kHz at 0100z Monday (6 PM PDT Sunday) 73, Kevin. KD5ONS From buddy at brannan.name Sun Jun 5 13:18:17 2016 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 13:18:17 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch screen GUI? If that's what counts as innovative, hey, where'd I put my club? Maybe behind that rock in my cave. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: 814-860-3194 Mobile: 814-431-0962 Email: buddy at brannan.name > On Jun 5, 2016, at 1:12 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > > Gee, > > So far Elecraft has done a good job of providing new products with great support for which there is an ample mainstream market -- a good business model. And focusing on products for which there is a good market is important. > > Amateur radio video: How big would that market be? Ditto for VHF/UHF exclusive transceiver, though that might go further than your video suggestion. > > And I believe the 1.5 kW amp/tuner topic was discussed extensively and conclusively here at some time in the past 12 months. > > Sure, new products are always welcome. But companies have failed by producing new products for which no market materializes. And, first and foremost, I want Elecraft to be around for another 17 years! > > 73, Phil W7OX > > On 6/5/16 9:47 AM, Gee wrote: >> We have seen a remake of the K3 in the form of the K3s. Now we see the remake of the KX3 in the form of the KX2. So when are we going to see something really new from Elecraft? Surely the possibilities have not been exhausted. Touch screen GUI, VHF/UHF exclusive transceiver, 1.5 KW amp and tuner, new modes (is amateur radio video dead?). A great American company could be even greater by expanding it's product line with new things, not variations on the same thing. >> >> Sent from my iPad > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to buddy at brannan.name From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Sun Jun 5 13:41:31 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (wickedbeernut) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 10:41:31 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support In-Reply-To: References: <1465059716331-7618412.post@n2.nabble.com> <1465076121376-7618434.post@n2.nabble.com> <1465078942207-7618437.post@n2.nabble.com> <0259FCDA-62CE-4240-8391-0AB96153545A@w4ish.net> <253AA71C-9D03-4AC8-B180-B6ED6BA3623A@yahoo.com> <1465143974117-7618472.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1465148491731-7618481.post@n2.nabble.com> > Adding hub support will also probably allow the use of Apple USB keyboards. They have > built-in hubs, which is probably why they don't work with the P3/PX3. > (Says the man who > has several lying around just looking for uses. At least I can use them > with myBeagleBone > and Raspberry Pi.) Assuming the Apple USB keyboards are 2.4 GHz wireless and generate the standard HID (Human Interface Device) report, yes (probably). A built-in hub isn?t fundamentally different than an external hub. The same firmware will support both. I use a keyboard / mouse combo (i.e., a separate keyboard and mouse which share the same wireless dongle). I even have a $20 credit card sized iPazzPort 2.4 GHz keyboard with a built-in *gyroscope*. It appears to the PX3 (via the Arduino microcontroller) just like any other keyboard and mouse. I also heard from a member whose gaming keyboard didn?t work with the P3 / PX3. However, I?m not sure what the exact constraint was. In theory, hub support *may* address this situation as well. No promises. Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-Keyboard-Mouse-Thumb-Drive-and-Knob-Support-tp7618412p7618481.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From g6glp at strus.co.uk Sun Jun 5 14:28:39 2016 From: g6glp at strus.co.uk (Tony G6GLP) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 19:28:39 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> Message-ID: <39ba3fb2-a30f-1088-3338-e93e9e6c9da8@strus.co.uk> Hi All, I thought I might put my oar in on this; New products need a market is true and trying to second guess it is another story. How would I go about developing a new product? I believe that we need to see a gap in the market since we are not going to create a new market like texting. The size of the addressable customer base needs to be large enough to support the development cost. One thing that many people see as improvement is the touch screen, while I support development in this area it is not core functionality to our hobby (can I see the flack coming on that?). The KX2 and K-POD are good examples of pushing the new product while building on current development ( no I dont have an inside view of the products but it stands to reason). Who was it that said there are many Japanese VHF txcvrs? The latest trend is into the digital coms so something in that area maybe the next thing but I would recommend an open source approach to the digital coms to get others helping with the future development of repeater type multi channel things. I would personally be more interested in an integrated larger HF amp or even a combiner to use say three KPA500 to achieve the higher output. If my fantasy radio was developed it would be quantum based system that would allow you call through other dimensions over vast distances with out any propagation delay. Maybe in a few thousand years :-) 73 de Tony G6GLP From w7ox at socal.rr.com Sun Jun 5 14:48:31 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 11:48:31 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <39ba3fb2-a30f-1088-3338-e93e9e6c9da8@strus.co.uk> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <39ba3fb2-a30f-1088-3338-e93e9e6c9da8@strus.co.uk> Message-ID: <7e31bc96-6209-9a73-0c11-af719fac77d7@socal.rr.com> Good discussion, Tony. Re "If my fantasy radio was developed it would be quantum based system that would allow you call through other dimensions over vast distances with out any propagation delay." I'd settle for an advancement which let me work you from California running 5 Watts to a one meter indoor antenna and no counterpoise -- during the low part of the sunspot cycle :-) 73, Phil W7OX On 6/5/16 11:28 AM, Tony G6GLP wrote: > Hi All, > I thought I might put my oar in on this; New > products need a market is true and trying to > second guess it is another story. > > How would I go about developing a new product? I > believe that we need to see a gap in the market > since we are not going to create a new market > like texting. The size of the addressable > customer base needs to be large enough to > support the development cost. One thing that > many people see as improvement is the touch > screen, while I support development in this area > it is not core functionality to our hobby (can I > see the flack coming on that?). The KX2 and > K-POD are good examples of pushing the new > product while building on current development ( > no I dont have an inside view of the products > but it stands to reason). Who was it that said > there are many Japanese VHF txcvrs? The latest > trend is into the digital coms so something in > that area maybe the next thing but I would > recommend an open source approach to the digital > coms to get others helping with the future > development of repeater type multi channel things. > I would personally be more interested in an > integrated larger HF amp or even a combiner to > use say three KPA500 to achieve the higher output. > If my fantasy radio was developed it would be > quantum based system that would allow you call > through other dimensions over vast distances > with out any propagation delay. Maybe in a few > thousand years :-) > > 73 de Tony G6GLP From wa6nhc at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 14:50:17 2016 From: wa6nhc at gmail.com (Rick WA6NHC) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 11:50:17 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <7e31bc96-6209-9a73-0c11-af719fac77d7@socal.rr.com> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <39ba3fb2-a30f-1088-3338-e93e9e6c9da8@strus.co.uk> <7e31bc96-6209-9a73-0c11-af719fac77d7@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <5f142db5-a2a8-10e0-7b35-439326039842@gmail.com> But if it's truly quantum, which reality YOU would be working whom? On 6/5/2016 11:48 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > Good discussion, Tony. > > Re "If my fantasy radio was developed it would be quantum based system > that would allow you call through other dimensions over vast distances > with out any propagation delay." I'd settle for an advancement which > let me work you from California running 5 Watts to a one meter indoor > antenna and no counterpoise -- during the low part of the sunspot > cycle :-) > > 73, Phil W7OX > > On 6/5/16 11:28 AM, Tony G6GLP wrote: >> Hi All, >> I thought I might put my oar in on this; New products need a market >> is true and trying to second guess it is another story. >> >> How would I go about developing a new product? I believe that we need >> to see a gap in the market since we are not going to create a new >> market like texting. The size of the addressable customer base needs >> to be large enough to support the development cost. One thing that >> many people see as improvement is the touch screen, while I support >> development in this area it is not core functionality to our hobby >> (can I see the flack coming on that?). The KX2 and K-POD are good >> examples of pushing the new product while building on current >> development ( no I dont have an inside view of the products but it >> stands to reason). Who was it that said there are many Japanese VHF >> txcvrs? The latest trend is into the digital coms so something in >> that area maybe the next thing but I would recommend an open source >> approach to the digital coms to get others helping with the future >> development of repeater type multi channel things. >> I would personally be more interested in an integrated larger HF amp >> or even a combiner to use say three KPA500 to achieve the higher output. >> If my fantasy radio was developed it would be quantum based system >> that would allow you call through other dimensions over vast >> distances with out any propagation delay. Maybe in a few thousand >> years :-) >> >> 73 de Tony G6GLP > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wa6nhc at gmail.com From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Sun Jun 5 15:02:55 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 20:02:55 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: <201606051622.u55GMq6q015393@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201606051622.u55GMq6q015393@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <08944478-4253-47B1-A193-E13EB0E85723@yahoo.co.uk> VQLOG is what most VHF UHF guys use Ed. by EA6VQ. I have used it for years. 73 David Anderson GM4JJJ > On 5 Jun 2016, at 17:22, Edward R Cole wrote: > > Barely dare ask, but is there a logging program suited for VHF logging? My logs are simply excel spreadsheets and cover: > No. MO/DY/YR TIME CALLSIGN GRID LOCATION DXCC WAS FREQ MODE QSL-RX QSL-SENT > Last two columns track QSLs received "X" or sent "MO/DA/YR" > > Especially would be nice to determine with callsign entry if I had worked the station, previously. MY log is an initial contact log and I do not enter repeat contacts. Present use is all manual entry and search. Grid is six digit locator. e.g. on 2m-eme I have 438 initial contacts (distinct callsigns). > > So far I run contests on paper with pencil. Eme and VHF contests normally are not so fast and furious as on HF. > But a log that saves frequency, mode and date info while one enters time and call would be nice on contests, especially if it would detect a dupe. Be most handy tallying score and entering contest log. Cabrillo conversion would be nice for contests. > > I keep separate logs by band (only logging 6m+ contacts) > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > "Kits made by KL7UW" > Dubus Mag business: > dubususa at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk From lists at subich.com Sun Jun 5 15:10:34 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:10:34 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] XLR Audio Cable to K3S In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5e325876-2336-9161-85c9-c2885e05cd1f@subich.com> On 6/5/2016 12:30 PM, David Ahrendts wrote: > Am I correct here: The correct connections for an XLR (balanced) connection on a dynamic mic to the Elecraft/Kenwood 8 pin Foster plug are: Mic Foster 1 SHELL Shield (Ground) 2 1 Mic Hot 3 7 Mic Return The correct connections for an XLR (balanced) connection on a dynamic mic to the Elecraft 3.5 mm (rear mic) jack are: Mic 3.5 mm 1 N/C Shield (Ground) 2 Tip Mic Hot 3 Sleeve Mic Return One should use *twisted pair* wiring for audio - particularly in conjunction with the rear mic jack since there is no opportunity for a grounded shield. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 6/5/2016 12:30 PM, David Ahrendts wrote: > Am I correct here: > I?m building an audio cable for the K3S ? 3-pin XLR from the mich to the 8-pin K3S input (pin diagram on page 13 of the Owner?s manual). And here?s a Wiki on the XLR pins: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XLR_connector > XLR pin #1 (ground) to K3S 8-pin #7 and #8, both ground. The connector shell should be grounded also for best RF protection, yes? > XLR pin #2 to K3S 8-pin #1, mich audio > > David A., KK6DA, Los Angeles > > > > David Ahrendts davidahrendts at me.com > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to lists at subich.com > From KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com Sun Jun 5 15:16:19 2016 From: KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 12:16:19 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> Message-ID: <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally released. Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more flexible than a silk-screened metal panel. I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's really time to lighten up, folks. Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the firmware grows to need them. On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch From aa4v at bellsouth.net Sun Jun 5 15:26:40 2016 From: aa4v at bellsouth.net (Steve) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:26:40 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 to SPE expert 1.3K-FA amp Message-ID: Anyone out there using the above-mentioned setup? Looking for some guidance to interface CAT. I'm having intermittent transmission using ANT 1 but ANT 2 seems to work fine. Any ideas or hints? 73 Steve AA4V 843-834-1616 Sent from my I-Phone From buddy at brannan.name Sun Jun 5 15:27:31 2016 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:27:31 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Message-ID: Lighten up, you say? I don't know...I sort of like having radios I can actually use. Unless said touch screen will also come with some sort of spoken interface, (they haven't, so far), I guess eventually I get to look for a new hobby if that's where we're all going. And really, with the aging ham population and the sight loss that sometimes comes with said aging population, guess a lot of those guys are gonna be screwed, too. Sounds like a great idea to me. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: 814-860-3194 Mobile: 814-431-0962 Email: buddy at brannan.name > On Jun 5, 2016, at 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: > > A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally released. > > Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more flexible than a silk-screened metal panel. > > I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's really time to lighten up, folks. > > Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the firmware grows to need them. > > On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to buddy at brannan.name From josh at voodoolab.com Sun Jun 5 15:31:14 2016 From: josh at voodoolab.com (Josh) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 12:31:14 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Message-ID: <44DCF5A7-2127-4CD8-8D9F-84A23E752A7C@voodoolab.com> Why pay for an expensive, low volume touch screen when most of us carry very nice ones with us? Write an iOS and/or Android app radio interface. You could accomplish most of this with the existing hardware with the addition of a smart dongle that includes RS232 and BLE connectivity. 73 Josh W6XU Sent from my mobile device (& K3 interface) > On Jun 5, 2016, at 12:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: > > A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally released. > > Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more flexible than a silk-screened metal panel. > > I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's really time to lighten up, folks. > > Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the firmware grows to need them. >> From paul.wilton at tesco.net Sun Jun 5 15:36:28 2016 From: paul.wilton at tesco.net (Paul Wilton) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 20:36:28 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S audio and N1MM+ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Solution Thanks for the help either on the reflector or direct. I found the problem in the end. This was brand new K3S I was setting up. Since I wanted to use N1MM+ as voice keyer, I had never run it with MAIN:MIC set to Line. Hence the ?mic gain? for the LINE input was set to zero. Changing MAIN:MIC to Line first, increasing the gain so that the audio was working and then going back to MAIN:MIC to RP (with MAIN:MIC+LIN ON) worked. 73 Paul M1CNK > On 4 Jun 2016, at 18:32, Paul Wilton wrote: > > I?m trying to set up a K3S with N1MM+ and am having problems with the TX audio. I have connected the K3S via USB to my windows PC and with Audacity have proved that I can receive audio over the USB connection using the built-in soundcard in the K3S. However, I cannot make it go in the other direction - ie get the K3S USB soundcard to modulate the output. > > My desire is to get N1MM+ to be the voice keyer. I have got a headset plugged into the 3.5mm sockets on the rear of the K3S. This works. When I ask N1MM+ to transmit audio, then the K3S goes into TX. However, I cannot heard the computer generated audio in my headset - all I can hear is my own breathing into the headset mic (hence proving that that the monitor function works). Also, no RF is going out. MAIN:MIC is set to RP, MAIN:MIC+LIN is set to ON. > > Am incorrectly assuming that I can use the K3S soundcard in this way? If not, what am I doing wrong! > > 73 > > Paul > M1CNK > > From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sun Jun 5 15:37:42 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:37:42 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Message-ID: Lynn, Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for blind operators. Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios with those blind operators particularly in mind. A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: > A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future > upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things > on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally > released. > > Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more > flexible than a silk-screened metal panel. > > I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's > really time to lighten up, folks. > > Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of > "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the > firmware grows to need them. > > On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the >> touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com > From Hamshack at N4ST.com Sun Jun 5 15:40:23 2016 From: Hamshack at N4ST.com (Jim - N4ST) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:40:23 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: <201606051622.u55GMq6q015393@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201606051622.u55GMq6q015393@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <00ab01d1bf62$200f9f50$602eddf0$@N4ST.com> Ed, It costs money and does more than just logging, but HRD would certainly cover the bases. The logbook covers all of the items you list, plus QSL S/R for eQSL and LoTW with dates sent and dates received. You can also log station setup (rig, antenna, power, etc.) as well as propagation mode (Es, tropo, meter scatter, aurora, etc.) You could put all of your QSOs in the same log and set the display filter to just display the band of interest. Or create separate logs per band if you really want to do that. __________ 73, Jim - N4ST -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Edward R Cole Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 12:23 To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program Barely dare ask, but is there a logging program suited for VHF logging? My logs are simply excel spreadsheets and cover: No. MO/DY/YR TIME CALLSIGN GRID LOCATION DXCC WAS FREQ MODE QSL-RX QSL-SENT Last two columns track QSLs received "X" or sent "MO/DA/YR" Especially would be nice to determine with callsign entry if I had worked the station, previously. MY log is an initial contact log and I do not enter repeat contacts. Present use is all manual entry and search. Grid is six digit locator. e.g. on 2m-eme I have 438 initial contacts (distinct callsigns). So far I run contests on paper with pencil. Eme and VHF contests normally are not so fast and furious as on HF. But a log that saves frequency, mode and date info while one enters time and call would be nice on contests, especially if it would detect a dupe. Be most handy tallying score and entering contest log. Cabrillo conversion would be nice for contests. I keep separate logs by band (only logging 6m+ contacts) 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From k3go at bellsouth.net Sun Jun 5 15:56:02 2016 From: k3go at bellsouth.net (JOHN T SMITH) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 19:56:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 SN0158 References: <725988353.5640870.1465156562822.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <725988353.5640870.1465156562822.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Internal battery 5 watts worked IT9SSI my first contact in couple calls on an OCF. Awesome little radio. Now I need to read the manual ;-)-de K3GO?John From n6kr at elecraft.com Sun Jun 5 16:03:46 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 13:03:46 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 SN0158 In-Reply-To: <725988353.5640870.1465156562822.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <725988353.5640870.1465156562822.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <725988353.5640870.1465156562822.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7D4ABA91-A93B-4246-B7B1-D5CE46772E2B@elecraft.com> On Jun 5, 2016, at 12:56 PM, JOHN T SMITH wrote: > Internal battery 5 watts worked IT9SSI my first contact in couple calls on an OCF. Awesome little radio. Now I need to read the manual ;-)-de K3GO John I, too, have always enjoyed the thrill of uncertainty that comes from putting the cart before the horse. Bravo :) Wayne From n5ge at n5ge.com Sun Jun 5 16:13:53 2016 From: n5ge at n5ge.com (Amateur Radio Operator N5GE) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2016 15:13:53 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Message-ID: Don, I suspect that having redesigned a rig with touch screen capability the manufacturer would, in a short period of time realize the error of their ways. Hopfully they would still have enough capital to revert to the original design and fire the person responsible for the change. On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:37:42 -0400, you wrote: >Lynn, > >Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for >blind operators. >Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios >with those blind operators particularly in mind. >A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it. > >73, >Don W3FPR > >On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: >> A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future >> upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things >> on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally >> released. >> >> Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more >> flexible than a silk-screened metal panel. >> >> I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's >> really time to lighten up, folks. >> >> Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of >> "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the >> firmware grows to need them. >> >> On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>> Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the >>> touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com >> > >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to n5ge at n5ge.com From buddy at brannan.name Sun Jun 5 16:23:06 2016 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 16:23:06 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Message-ID: <0E8AED2C-7CB5-4BB6-91BC-1B569D6CDE63@brannan.name> Only if it's Elecraft. Clearly this isn't the case with Yaecomwoodlincotec. Well, at least a couple of those, anyway. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: 814-860-3194 Mobile: 814-431-0962 Email: buddy at brannan.name > On Jun 5, 2016, at 4:13 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE wrote: > > Don, > > I suspect that having redesigned a rig with touch screen > capability the manufacturer would, in a short period of time realize > the error of their ways. Hopfully they would still have enough > capital to revert to the original design and fire the person > responsible for the change. > > On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:37:42 -0400, you wrote: > >> Lynn, >> >> Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for >> blind operators. >> Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios >> with those blind operators particularly in mind. >> A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >> On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: >>> A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future >>> upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things >>> on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally >>> released. >>> >>> Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more >>> flexible than a silk-screened metal panel. >>> >>> I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's >>> really time to lighten up, folks. >>> >>> Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of >>> "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the >>> firmware grows to need them. >>> >>> On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>>> Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the >>>> touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com >>> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to n5ge at n5ge.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to buddy at brannan.name From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Sun Jun 5 16:27:16 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:27:16 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Message-ID: <04e901fa-9e1c-6bad-a7d2-ee71ca3d2890@mediacombb.net> I can speak directly to that Don. Three years ago I had and accident and detached both retinas. Six eye surgeries later and I am 20/80 in the left eye and 20/50-40 (depending on the day) in the right. I am legally blind. None of that is reversible with anything you can do at the front of the eye. The damage was in the back. I can't use my K2/100 because it needs an alignment that I don't think I can see well enough to pull off. I was trying to add fixed audio out to the rig when I had my accident. I have one of the last N?SS boards for such somewhere. Ham Radio moving to a GUI interface would be the end of my Ham Radio hobby. I work with the aid of some very expensive gadgets and software designed to magnify the screen. Zoomtext from AI Squared has been a real blessing. The Linux community on the other hand has been a major disappointment. Lets just say accessibility is not on the Linux fan boy top ten list of improvements. We need yet another scripting language, chat client, window manager, etc.... Accessibility just isn't sexy or a good resume fluffer. The only way I use a P3 or PX3 is the SVGA card in the P3 and a 24" monitor, and the I/Q output into a laptop/sound card running NaP3 from the PX3. I applaud Elecraft for embracing the accessibility mantel hope to high heck they don't accede to the noisy minority. On 6/5/2016 2:37 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Lynn, > > Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for > blind operators. > Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios > with those blind operators particularly in mind. > A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: >> A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future >> upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things >> on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally >> released. >> >> Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more >> flexible than a silk-screened metal panel. >> >> I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's >> really time to lighten up, folks. >> >> Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of >> "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the >> firmware grows to need them. >> >> On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>> Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the >>> touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevin.stover at mediacombb.net > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From jimfinan at att.net Sun Jun 5 16:29:27 2016 From: jimfinan at att.net (Jim Finan) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2016 16:29:27 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Message-ID: <20160605202927.5869650.30417.40432@att.net> I made my annual pilgrimage to the nearest Ham store (3 hours drive) and saw a bunch of very pretty equipment.? However, I'm not going to ditch my Elecraft gear any time soon.? Touchscreens have some advantages, but there are a number of trade-offs. Reliability (I remember problems with the FTDX5000 displays), ruggedness ?, etc. Also seem to take more power to run the bells and whistles.? There could be a couple of solutions to their use by sight-impaired Hams?. One would be voice recognition software. Like Siri or Cortana - how about 'Ellie'? Development costs would be pretty steep and we all know how wonderful the voice recognition software can be... Another idea would be to use a 'Super' K-pod/K-nob and/or something like the Genovation keyboards (mentioned recently on the reflector). That would be a much more simple solution. It could have custom keycaps with Braille characters on them.? Not too many, but maybe 12-24? That interface could be used on multiple radios (a bunch of speculation about that regarding the K-pod recently)?. USB or something else to plug in. I'm not wild about wireless as that's one more battery to deal with.? BTW, Touchscreens don't necessarily need to be proprietary. I have a couple that are generic with my Beaglebone that seem to work ok?. Nice toy but not necessary.? Not sure how practical these ideas are... 73, Jim Jim Finan AB4AC? Sent?from?my?BlackBerry?10?smartphone. ? Original Message ? From: Don Wilhelm Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 3:39 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Reply To: donwilh at embarqmail.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products Lynn, Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for blind operators. Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios with those blind operators particularly in mind. A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: > A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future > upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things > on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally > released. > > Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more > flexible than a silk-screened metal panel. > > I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's > really time to lighten up, folks. > > Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of > "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the > firmware grows to need them. > > On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the >> touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jimfinan at att.net From jkramer at iafrica.com Sun Jun 5 16:35:26 2016 From: jkramer at iafrica.com (John) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 22:35:26 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Message-ID: Ha, Elecraft needs to progress at some stage, or get left behind. Touch screen UI is and has been extensively used - 3 billion touch screen smart phones out there, 1.2 billion touch screen tablets. I can see you all reaching for your keyboards to protest that phones and tablets are not the same thing. Well, touch screen UI have also moved over to commercial products, the military and airline pilots also use touch screen UI communication devices. If they are good enough to be used on commercial aircraft and in military applications, then it sure is good enough for ham radio. Touch screen UI panels having become so prolific, that they have dropped the cost enormously, resolution is picture sharp and reliability is extremely good. Touch screens have huge potential, and almost unlimited versatility. If you need more knobs or buttons on your rig, due to new features having been added??no problem with a touch screen. Just a firmware update to add a knob, button, slider or meter onto the screen. The problem with conventional rigs, is you run out of physical knobs and buttons when features are added to the radio. I see this in my KX3 - some knobs have three functions, and to try and remember what each knobs second or third function does, becomes difficult. Food for thought :-) 73 John On 5 Jun 2016, at 10:13 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE wrote: Don, I suspect that having redesigned a rig with touch screen capability the manufacturer would, in a short period of time realize the error of their ways. Hopfully they would still have enough capital to revert to the original design and fire the person responsible for the change. On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:37:42 -0400, you wrote: > Lynn, > > Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for > blind operators. > Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios > with those blind operators particularly in mind. > A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: >> A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future >> upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things >> on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally >> released. >> >> Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more >> flexible than a silk-screened metal panel. >> >> I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's >> really time to lighten up, folks. >> >> Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of >> "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the >> firmware grows to need them. >> >> On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>> Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the >>> touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n5ge at n5ge.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jkramer at iafrica.com From ve3wdm at hotmail.com Sun Jun 5 16:49:10 2016 From: ve3wdm at hotmail.com (Mike Weir) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 16:49:10 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Pelican 1200 series case for sale Message-ID: I have a new Pelican 1200 black series case for sale. The foam has been picked to fit an Elecraft KX3. If you have the KX3 this case is ready to go. Pic are available to those interested. The cost is 40.00 including shipping. Mike VE3WDM From n7cqr at arrl.net Sun Jun 5 16:51:48 2016 From: n7cqr at arrl.net (Dan Presley) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 13:51:48 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 utility for mac? Message-ID: Does anyone know if the KX2 utility program is available for Macs? I only see a windows version on the software page. Alternatively-can I use the KX3 utility program for the 2? Thanks. Dan Presley N7CQR n7cqr at arrl.net From jermo at carolinaheli.com Sun Jun 5 17:05:13 2016 From: jermo at carolinaheli.com (Jerry Moore) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2016 17:05:13 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Message-ID: <9AACB963-9F98-41A9-8D08-ADE59FCE00E1@carolinaheli.com> Adding $100 or more to add a touchscreen ui to a radio provides very little value in my view, is silly. The radio cost to value ratio is very low (meaning the value is high). The only exception I can see would be integrating the P3 as an option (hopefully enhancing with a micro computer/ssd for logging, digital, extended macros...etc, basically what I'm doing now with a raspberry pi). So that is if the cost is comparable to getting the P3. Without the features of the P3 integrated; who changes settings so often that the included programmable macro buttons aren't enough? On June 5, 2016 4:35:26 PM EDT, John wrote: >Ha, Elecraft needs to progress at some stage, or get left behind. > >Touch screen UI is and has been extensively used - 3 billion touch >screen smart phones >out there, 1.2 billion touch screen tablets. I can see you all reaching >for your keyboards >to protest that phones and tablets are not the same thing. Well, touch >screen UI have >also moved over to commercial products, the military and airline pilots >also use touch screen >UI communication devices. If they are good enough to be used on >commercial aircraft >and in military applications, then it sure is good enough for ham >radio. >Touch screen UI panels having become so prolific, that they have >dropped the cost enormously, >resolution is picture sharp and reliability is extremely good. >Touch screens have huge potential, and almost unlimited versatility. If >you need more knobs >or buttons on your rig, due to new features having been added??no >problem with a touch screen. >Just a firmware update to add a knob, button, slider or meter onto the >screen. >The problem with conventional rigs, is you run out of physical knobs >and buttons when features >are added to the radio. I see this in my KX3 - some knobs have three >functions, and to try and >remember what each knobs second or third function does, becomes >difficult. > >Food for thought :-) > >73 >John > > > > >On 5 Jun 2016, at 10:13 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE >wrote: > >Don, > >I suspect that having redesigned a rig with touch screen >capability the manufacturer would, in a short period of time realize >the error of their ways. Hopfully they would still have enough >capital to revert to the original design and fire the person >responsible for the change. > >On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:37:42 -0400, you wrote: > >> Lynn, >> >> Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for >> blind operators. >> Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their >radios >> with those blind operators particularly in mind. >> A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >> On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: >>> A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future >>> upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things > >>> on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally >>> released. >>> >>> Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more >>> flexible than a silk-screened metal panel. >>> >>> I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's >>> really time to lighten up, folks. >>> >>> Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of >>> "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the > >>> firmware grows to need them. >>> >>> On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>>> Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the >>>> touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com >>> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to n5ge at n5ge.com > >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to jkramer at iafrica.com > >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to jermo at carolinaheli.com -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From km4ik.ian at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 17:37:18 2016 From: km4ik.ian at gmail.com (Ian - Ham) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 17:37:18 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: <201606051622.u55GMq6q015393@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201606051622.u55GMq6q015393@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <00e701d1bf72$6fbefea0$4f3cfbe0$@gmail.com> I'm late jumping into this discussion, but want to add my two cents' worth. In the interest of full disclosure, I'm a beta tester and evangelist for Ham Radio Deluxe, but have no financial interest. HRD provides all the functionality everyone has mentioned on this list (including the info Ed asked for below, for V/UHF logging). In addition to rig control, logging (which provides at-a-glance worked/confirmed info in the cluster window), and digi modes, HRD also provides satellite tracking and rotor control, all in one suite of tools. Awards tracking is superb. And, HRD allows the use of MariaDB (a variant of MySQL) as the log database, instead of just using Access (Access is the default data store, but it can be converted very easily, following the video on HRD's YouTube channel). One new feature that HRD has that I haven't heard about in any other logger is the ability to take input from N1MM Logger+ directly as it is being input into the contest logger. There are a couple of configuration items in HRD to set, and the HRD logger must be running in the background during the contest. This eliminates the step of exporting the contest log to an ADIF and then importing it into HRD. I admit my bias, but feel HRD is well worth the license fee and is among the best all-in-one suites available. Thanks and 73, --Ian Ian Kahn, KM4IK Roswell, GA EM74ua km4ik.ian at gmail.com 10-10 #74624, North Georgia Chapter #2038 PODXS 070 #1962 K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468 -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Edward R Cole Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 12:23 PM To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program Barely dare ask, but is there a logging program suited for VHF logging? My logs are simply excel spreadsheets and cover: No. MO/DY/YR TIME CALLSIGN GRID LOCATION DXCC WAS FREQ MODE QSL-RX QSL-SENT Last two columns track QSLs received "X" or sent "MO/DA/YR" Especially would be nice to determine with callsign entry if I had worked the station, previously. MY log is an initial contact log and I do not enter repeat contacts. Present use is all manual entry and search. Grid is six digit locator. e.g. on 2m-eme I have 438 initial contacts (distinct callsigns). So far I run contests on paper with pencil. Eme and VHF contests normally are not so fast and furious as on HF. But a log that saves frequency, mode and date info while one enters time and call would be nice on contests, especially if it would detect a dupe. Be most handy tallying score and entering contest log. Cabrillo conversion would be nice for contests. I keep separate logs by band (only logging 6m+ contacts) 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to km4ik.ian at gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From frantz at pwpconsult.com Sun Jun 5 17:51:13 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 14:51:13 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: Message-ID: An idea just off the top of my head: Put a physical grid over the touch screen so the blind OP can find the buttons. A grid of 2mm x 2mm bars separated into 15-20mm areas might work well. Have the radio speak the status of the button when it is pressed. If you have two-level press sensitivity, like the new Apple MacBooks, then you can use one level as a request to report the status and the other as a request to change the status (press the button). Rectangular areas could be used as sliders for adjustments etc. (Note that for blind usage, you don't need a screen. A touch pad alone will do. One of the great things about amateur radio is that people with significant handicaps can still play. One of the board members of my club is blind. Other members bring him to meetings, and it is always nice to hear his voice on the air. People who can't hear can still be expert digital operators. etc. Elecraft is to be applauded for their commitment to accessibility. 73 Bill AE6JV On 6/5/16 at 12:37 PM, donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) wrote: >Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for blind operators. >Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their >radios with those blind operators particularly in mind. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz |The nice thing about standards| Periwinkle (408)356-8506 |is there are so many to choose| 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com |from. - Andrew Tanenbaum | Los Gatos, CA 95032 From km4ik.ian at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 17:53:50 2016 From: km4ik.ian at gmail.com (Ian Kahn) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 17:53:50 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: <201606051622.u55GMq6q015393@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201606051622.u55GMq6q015393@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: I'm late jumping into this discussion, but want to add my two cents' worth. In the interest of full disclosure, I'm a beta tester and evangelist for Ham Radio Deluxe, but have no financial interest. HRD provides all the functionality everyone has mentioned on this list (including the info Ed asked for below, for V/UHF logging). One new feature that HRD has that I haven't heard about in any other logger is the ability to take input from N1MM Logger+ directly as it is being input into the contest logger. There are a couple of configuration items in HRD to set, and the HRD logger must be running in the background. This eliminates the step of exporting the contest log to an ADIF and then importing it into HRD. I admit my bias, but feel HRD is well worth the license fee and is among the best logging/rig control/digi mode/satellite/rotor control suites available. Thanks and 73, --Ian Ian Kahn, KM4IK Roswell, GA EM74ua km4ik.ian at gmail.com 10-10 #74624, North Georgia Chapter #2038 PODXS 070 #1962 K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468 -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Edward R Cole Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 12:23 PM To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program Barely dare ask, but is there a logging program suited for VHF logging? My logs are simply excel spreadsheets and cover: No. MO/DY/YR TIME CALLSIGN GRID LOCATION DXCC WAS FREQ MODE QSL-RX QSL-SENT Last two columns track QSLs received "X" or sent "MO/DA/YR" Especially would be nice to determine with callsign entry if I had worked the station, previously. MY log is an initial contact log and I do not enter repeat contacts. Present use is all manual entry and search. Grid is six digit locator. e.g. on 2m-eme I have 438 initial contacts (distinct callsigns). So far I run contests on paper with pencil. Eme and VHF contests normally are not so fast and furious as on HF. But a log that saves frequency, mode and date info while one enters time and call would be nice on contests, especially if it would detect a dupe. Be most handy tallying score and entering contest log. Cabrillo conversion would be nice for contests. I keep separate logs by band (only logging 6m+ contacts) 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to km4ik.ian at gmail.com From wunder at wunderwood.org Sun Jun 5 17:59:53 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 14:59:53 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3/PX3] Bonding In-Reply-To: <37F563C6-7ADD-4CD6-BBEC-0394A563769F@gmail.com> References: <37F563C6-7ADD-4CD6-BBEC-0394A563769F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Get a big clamp-on ferrite and wrap the power cord through it as many times as will fit. Do that as close as you can to the back of the iMac. The iMac has a three-conductor power cord, so try and get all of the power cords for your equipment to a single power strip. This is a start at bonding the grounds, though it assumes competent construction on all your equipment, not just the iMac. In general, Mac power supplies are built to very high standards for safety and RF interference. We?d all like the standards to be tougher, of course. The encyclopedic paper on RFI by K9YC recommends the "#31 'biggest clamp-on' (Fair-Rite #0431177081)?. http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf Your other problem is the OCF dipole. A fundamentally unbalanced antenna is going to pick up more noise. Put the best quality choke/balun you can buy at the feed point of that thing. When I put a Balun Designs 1:1 balun on my (balanced) dipole, the noise dropped by 7 dB. This is the one I used. Their definition of ?QRP? is 250 W. Their QRO baluns handle either 3 kW or 5 kW. http://www.balundesigns.com/qrp-model-1110-1-1-isolation-choke-balun-1-54-mhz/ wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jun 5, 2016, at 5:03 AM, Joel Black wrote: > > I figured out most of my problems with all the spikes on the PX3 - the switching P/S in my iMac. To a lesser extent, I can hear the MFJ-4125 switching P/S I use to power the KX3 and PX3. I cannot remember if I tried looking at the spectrum using the Astron RS-35 as a power source and plugging in the 4125 or not. I will try that today. I did use the RX SHFT and was able to move a huge spike off the carrier. Does RX SHFT still nullify the roofing filter or was that fixed in a F/W update? > > I?m pretty sure I can bond the KX3, PX3, and MFJ-4125 but I don?t have a *clue* how to bond the iMac. It?s a late 2012 27? iMac. It?s an all-in-one with *no* external screws. It?s the model with the ?pregnant? bulge in the back. However, if it means I have to go to a Windows computer, I?ll live with the noise or build a Hackintosh. I also use this computer for other things - editing video, etc. > > I *did* try my wife?s Mac Book Pro with the power supply plugged in and I did not notice the P/S noise on the PX3; however, her computer is not powerful enough to edit video unless you have time to wait. ;) > > Just to make sure I understand what I need to do: > > 1. Bond the KX3 to the power supply. > 2. Bond the KX3 to the PX3. > 3. Bond the KX3 to the computer (somehow). > 4. Bond the KX3 to the sound card (in my case, a Focusrite 2i2). > > Trying to use ASCII to draw, I?m guessing it should look like this: > > PX3????KX3???MFJ-4125 > / \ > / \ > iMac Focusrite 2i2 > > > My KX3 antenna connection goes to a 4-way switch to switch between my OCF, NVIS, vertical, and dummy load. Does the KX3 need to be bonded to that as well? All of the feed lines run up through the wall, into the attic, and out a soffit vent to surge protectors attached to a ground rod. That ground rod is bonded to house ground. The OCF and the NVIS are on a fiberglass pole in the middle of the back yard. There is no ground rod there. The vertical is over to the side and is bonded to a ground rod there. That ground rod is not bonded but, from my reading, it should be. > > Does this look/sound right? Please be critical. I cannot learn unless you tell me where I screwed up. I have pretty thick skin. ;) > > 73, > Joel - W4JBB > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From eric_csuf at hotmail.com Sun Jun 5 18:18:32 2016 From: eric_csuf at hotmail.com (EricJ) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:18:32 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Message-ID: It's always interesting to hear list members' idea of new amateur radio products. I get the idea that the ham market is driven by the needs of megabuck contesters and DX'ers, many of whom are now legally incorporated entities! I'm obviously not in tune with an amateur market that sees a combiner for three $2000+ linears as a viable product. Maybe the ham market has always been driven by these folks, the race car drivers in our sport with factory sponsorship, whose wants and needs then trickle down to the rest of us as rear view mirrors and racing stripes for our family SUV. I have no advice for Elecraft which already produces things that are beyond my needs in this hobby. But consider this. I worked the Alabama QSO Party this weekend just for fun. I did all my tuning/searching with my Drake 2B, then "pounced" (a word that is hyperbole for what I do in a contest) with the K2/100. There was nothing I could hear on the K2 that I couldn't hear on the 2B. In fact, I was only interested in mobiles running AL counties, the weaker stations in the contest. Granted this 50 year old radio suffers a number of inadequacies that I would no longer stand for, however, it is still capable of performing the duties that MOST actual everyday hams require of a receiver. It would not make it through the first lap as a race car, but it still does a remarkable job as a daily ride. And, the Drake 2B is still more FUN. It wouldn't be enhanced with a touch screen instead of knobs/switches and neither would anything else meant for every day hamming. Eric KE6US On 6/5/2016 12:27 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Lighten up, you say? I don't know...I sort of like having radios I can actually use. Unless said touch screen will also come with some sort of spoken interface, (they haven't, so far), I guess eventually I get to look for a new hobby if that's where we're all going. And really, with the aging ham population and the sight loss that sometimes comes with said aging population, guess a lot of those guys are gonna be screwed, too. Sounds like a great idea to me. > > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: 814-860-3194 > Mobile: 814-431-0962 > Email: buddy at brannan.name > > From km4ik.ian at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 18:20:18 2016 From: km4ik.ian at gmail.com (Ian Kahn) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 18:20:18 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: <201606051622.u55GMq6q015393@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201606051622.u55GMq6q015393@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: I'm late jumping into this discussion, but want to add my two cents' worth. In the interest of full disclosure, I'm a beta tester and evangelist for Ham Radio Deluxe, but have no financial interest. HRD provides all the functionality everyone has mentioned on this list (including the info Ed asked for below, for V/UHF logging). One new feature that HRD has that I haven't heard about in any other logger is the ability to take input from N1MM Logger+ directly as it is being input into the contest logger. There are a couple of configuration items in HRD to set, and the HRD logger Ian Kahn, KM4IK Roswell, GA EM74ua km4ik.ian at gmail.com 10-10 #74624, North Georgia Chapter #2038 PODXS 070 #1962 K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468 -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Edward R Cole Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 12:23 PM To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program Barely dare ask, but is there a logging program suited for VHF logging? My logs are simply excel spreadsheets and cover: No. MO/DY/YR TIME CALLSIGN GRID LOCATION DXCC WAS FREQ MODE QSL-RX QSL-SENT Last two columns track QSLs received "X" or sent "MO/DA/YR" Especially would be nice to determine with callsign entry if I had worked the station, previously. MY log is an initial contact log and I do not enter repeat contacts. Present use is all manual entry and search. Grid is six digit locator. e.g. on 2m-eme I have 438 initial contacts (distinct callsigns). So far I run contests on paper with pencil. Eme and VHF contests normally are not so fast and furious as on HF. But a log that saves frequency, mode and date info while one enters time and call would be nice on contests, especially if it would detect a dupe. Be most handy tallying score and entering contest log. Cabrillo conversion would be nice for contests. I keep separate logs by band (only logging 6m+ contacts) 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to km4ik.ian at gmail.com From kengkopp at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 18:32:08 2016 From: kengkopp at gmail.com (Ken G Kopp) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 16:32:08 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Message-ID: I'll not be buying a radio with any form of "touch screen" ... ain't gonna happen. (:-)) 73 K0PP On Jun 5, 2016 13:16, "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" wrote: > A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future > upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things on and > off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally released. > > Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more flexible > than a silk-screened metal panel. > > I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's really > time to lighten up, folks. > > Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of "empty" > buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the firmware grows > to need them. > > On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > >> Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the touch >> screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch >> > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kengkopp at gmail.com > From buddy at brannan.name Sun Jun 5 18:45:23 2016 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 18:45:23 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Of course, touch screens can be made to work, witness the iThingies. But that's an awful lot of complexity. Given that the available resources in current generation Elecraft gear can't even be stretched to include spoken feedback (this is not a criticism, mind you, just a statement of fact), it seems unlikely that such resources would be available just by the addition of a touch screen. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: 814-860-3194 Mobile: 814-431-0962 Email: buddy at brannan.name > On Jun 5, 2016, at 5:51 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: > > An idea just off the top of my head: Put a physical grid over the touch screen so the blind OP can find the buttons. A grid of 2mm x 2mm bars separated into 15-20mm areas might work well. Have the radio speak the status of the button when it is pressed. If you have two-level press sensitivity, like the new Apple MacBooks, then you can use one level as a request to report the status and the other as a request to change the status (press the button). Rectangular areas could be used as sliders for adjustments etc. (Note that for blind usage, you don't need a screen. A touch pad alone will do. > > One of the great things about amateur radio is that people with significant handicaps can still play. One of the board members of my club is blind. Other members bring him to meetings, and it is always nice to hear his voice on the air. People who can't hear can still be expert digital operators. etc. > > Elecraft is to be applauded for their commitment to accessibility. > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > On 6/5/16 at 12:37 PM, donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) wrote: > >> Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for blind operators. >> Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios with those blind operators particularly in mind. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz |The nice thing about standards| Periwinkle > (408)356-8506 |is there are so many to choose| 16345 Englewood Ave > www.pwpconsult.com |from. - Andrew Tanenbaum | Los Gatos, CA 95032 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to buddy at brannan.name From monzi at netscape.net Sun Jun 5 18:49:14 2016 From: monzi at netscape.net (Rob Monsipapa) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:49:14 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Looking for Used K3 Message-ID: If you are selling a K3 please send me all the details. Are you the original owner? What options are installed? Has it been service and if so, for what? What comes with the K3? How much are you asking for it? If you live in Phoenix it would be a plus. Thanks Rob AK7RM MESA, AZ Sent from my iPad From clark.macaulay at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 18:49:57 2016 From: clark.macaulay at gmail.com (engineercm) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:49:57 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Watt Meter Calibration Question Message-ID: <1465166997998-7618511.post@n2.nabble.com> Noticed today 20m output measured by LP100A was 90w when K3 wattmeter set to 100w. Same with 10m; other bands measured close enough. Updated firmware to latest and performed Transmit Calibration. Calib:WM HP at 50w set to agree with LP100A. In order to get 100w on LP100A, I have to crank the K3 output so that it reads 110 on the internal wattmeter. Why? Slope effect of internal WM? ATU is in Bypass; tried two different dummy loads with same result. Yes, I know 10% difference is barely noticeable at the other end; it's annoying. What am I doing wrong? Clark WU4B -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Watt-Meter-Calibration-Question-tp7618511.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Sun Jun 5 18:50:35 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:50:35 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: <201606051622.u55GMq6q015393@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201606051622.u55GMq6q015393@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: On Sun,6/5/2016 9:22 AM, Edward R Cole wrote: > Barely dare ask, but is there a logging program suited for VHF > logging? My logs are simply excel spreadsheets and cover: > No. MO/DY/YR TIME CALLSIGN GRID LOCATION DXCC WAS FREQ MODE QSL-RX > QSL-SENT > Last two columns track QSLs received "X" or sent "MO/DA/YR" Sure. DXKeeper may be good enough for slow VHF contest activity, but N1MM Plus is far better with things are popping (i.e., when the band is open for double-hop and you've got to finish the Q fast and move on to the next station). N1MM Plus does nothing for QSL or awards, so you want DXKeeper for that. See earlier posts in this thread for that. The bad news is that it could be difficult to export your Excel data to any ham logging program, but it's worth poking around the internet for someone who has done it. BTW -- Cabrillo logs have been the standard for contests for many years. While some contests still accept other formats or paper logs, the trend is to reject them because volunteers have gotten tired of doing what the submitter didn't want to do -- enter it by hand, one QSO at a time, into Cabrillo. :) 73, Jim K9YC From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Sun Jun 5 18:56:59 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:56:59 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] XLR Audio Cable to K3S In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0670f118-b9af-5325-66e5-3dba52b05497@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Sun,6/5/2016 9:30 AM, David Ahrendts wrote: > Am I correct here: > I?m building an audio cable for the K3S ? 3-pin XLR from the mich to the 8-pin K3S input (pin diagram on page 13 of the Owner?s manual). And here?s a Wiki on the XLR pins: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XLR_connector > XLR pin #1 (ground) to K3S 8-pin #7 and #8, both ground. First, the correct words are SHIELD and SHIELDING ENCLOSURE, not "ground." For a dynamic mic, pin 1 to the shielding enclosure, pin 2 is mic "high," pin 3 is mic return. > The connector shell should be grounded also for best RF protection, yes? NO, an the shell of an cable-mounted XLR should NOT be connected to anything. The shell of ALL connectors built into equipment SHOULD be bonded to the shielding enclosure. 73, Jim K9YC From dave.w0zf at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 18:57:01 2016 From: dave.w0zf at gmail.com (Dave Fugleberg) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2016 22:57:01 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: References: <201606051622.u55GMq6q015393@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: Any of the contest loggers will work for VHF contesting- I've used N1MM and Writelog on VHF contests. N3FJP has several loggers for specific purposes, including one specifically for VHF+ contesting. I probably use that one more than the others for VHF. All of them have the features you mentioned. It mostly comes down to personal preferences and what you get used to. On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:21 PM Ian Kahn wrote: > I'm late jumping into this discussion, but want to add my two cents' > worth. In the interest of full disclosure, I'm a beta tester and > evangelist for Ham Radio Deluxe, but have no financial interest. > > HRD provides all the functionality everyone has mentioned on this list > (including the info Ed asked for below, for V/UHF logging). One new > feature that HRD has that I haven't heard about in any other logger is the > ability to take input from N1MM Logger+ directly as it is being input into > the contest logger. There are a couple of configuration items in HRD to > set, and the HRD logger > > Ian Kahn, KM4IK > Roswell, GA EM74ua > km4ik.ian at gmail.com > 10-10 #74624, North Georgia Chapter #2038 > PODXS 070 #1962 > K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of > Edward R Cole > Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 12:23 PM > To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program > > Barely dare ask, but is there a logging program suited for VHF logging? > My logs are simply excel spreadsheets and cover: > No. MO/DY/YR TIME CALLSIGN GRID LOCATION DXCC WAS FREQ MODE QSL-RX > QSL-SENT Last two columns track QSLs received "X" or sent "MO/DA/YR" > > Especially would be nice to determine with callsign entry if I had worked > the station, previously. MY log is an initial contact log and I do not > enter repeat contacts. Present use is all manual entry and search. Grid > is six digit locator. e.g. on 2m-eme I have 438 initial contacts (distinct > callsigns). > > So far I run contests on paper with pencil. Eme and VHF contests normally > are not so fast and furious as on HF. > But a log that saves frequency, mode and date info while one enters time > and call would be nice on contests, especially if it would detect a dupe. > Be most handy tallying score and entering contest log. Cabrillo > conversion would be nice for contests. > > I keep separate logs by band (only logging 6m+ contacts) > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > "Kits made by KL7UW" > Dubus Mag business: > dubususa at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to km4ik.ian at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dave.w0zf at gmail.com > From ron at cobi.biz Sun Jun 5 18:58:33 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:58:33 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <20160605202927.5869650.30417.40432@att.net> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> <20160605202927.5869650.30417.40432@att.net> Message-ID: <001001d1bf7d$c9349a20$5b9dce60$@biz> Looking at the K-POD functionality, it seems to me that the future is modular. Already rigs like the K3 have an RF section, a control section, a signal processing section and an I/O section that are largely on separate boards in separate parts of the rig. And then there is the display section which is a separate box such as the P3, PX3 or even a PC. Except for the extremely compact rigs, it seems to me the future will bring increased options that can be plugged into each other according to the operator's interests and needs. Even highly compact rigs may find features such as frequency, spectrum, settings and other such items on wearable displays like glasses or on a Braille readout. Couple in an earwig mic/headphone and a smartphone size device that handles logging and I can imagine someone sitting on a park bench staring off into space saying "CQ Contest, CQ Contest, CQ Contes...". A few years ago such a scene would have people calling the guys with the funny white jackets but today I doubt if most people would even notice. (BTW, sri about the K-NOB reference. That somehow slipped off of my fingers unnoticed until Dick caught it. The little box does have a big knob!) 73, Ron AC7AC From alan_geller2001 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 5 19:02:07 2016 From: alan_geller2001 at yahoo.com (Alan Geller) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 16:02:07 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New products Message-ID: <7252E719-3431-4566-81E3-102679EA4795@yahoo.com> Knobs and and switches provide the illusion of control?and that my friends, is what life is all about 8^) Elecraft does a great job of giving us what we need while giving us what we want?.which is the exception the Rolling Stones would accept... Alan/K6ADG From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Sun Jun 5 19:07:23 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 18:07:23 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: References: <201606051622.u55GMq6q015393@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <12a631e9-8cac-9de6-e33e-589f795b4e77@mediacombb.net> DX Keeper will import .csv files. Convert the spreadsheet to comma separated values and import to DX Keeper. Downside is you are responsible to make sure the data are in the correct columns. On 6/5/2016 5:50 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > The bad news is that it could be difficult to export your Excel data > to any ham logging program, but it's worth poking around the internet > for someone who has done it. > > BTW -- Cabrillo logs have been the standard for contests for many > years. While some contests still accept other formats or paper logs, > the trend is to reject them because volunteers have gotten tired of > doing what the submitter didn't want to do -- enter it by hand, one > QSO at a time, into Cabrillo. :) > > 73, Jim K9YC > > ______________________________________________________________ > > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From vk1zzgary at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 19:09:35 2016 From: vk1zzgary at gmail.com (Gary) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 09:09:35 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Message-ID: <5754b136.2166420a.c41e4.fffffb23@mx.google.com> Ken, Nope, me neither. I am portabe 24/7, so is my not so smart screen phone, when in daylight the touch screen is useless. The sunlight shines on my k3 and I don't have any issue so using a touch screen would be an order of magnitude I ain't gonna deal with. Maybe a K3-TS?...a remote touch screen app with full k3 control? It's just not gonna happen in my case. My K3 is approaching adolescence, gee what a wonderful time we are still having daily on air. Gary -----Original Message----- From: "Ken G Kopp" Sent: ?6/?06/?2016 8:33 AM To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products I'll not be buying a radio with any form of "touch screen" ... ain't gonna happen. (:-)) 73 K0PP On Jun 5, 2016 13:16, "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" wrote: > A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future > upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things on and > off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally released. > > Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more flexible > than a silk-screened metal panel. > > I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's really > time to lighten up, folks. > > Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of "empty" > buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the firmware grows > to need them. > > On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > >> Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the touch >> screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch >> > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kengkopp at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vk1zzgary at gmail.com From edauer at law.du.edu Sun Jun 5 19:26:54 2016 From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 23:26:54 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Touchscreen and Buttons In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Touchscreens versus physical buttons and knobs aren?t the only choices. Avionics manufacturers long ago went to so-called soft keys - physical buttons, and knobs, whose functions change with the screen context and which are labelled on the adjacent edge of each screen. The versatility is remarkable, and the screen never gets greasy from the pilot?s lunch - just the buttons do. I haven?t flown for a few years, since losing my medical; but that?s how the early glass cockpits looked in my last panel. It wouldn?t be a novel idea in radios, including Elecraft ? the P3, for example, has a simple version in its row of programmable keys. As to upgradability, a change in F/W that assigns a new function to a knob or key would come with a matching F/W -based change to the legend on the adjacent part of the affected screen. Simple. No stick-on labels required - just a well-designed non-touch-sensitive LCD screen. I do agree with the point about ops with impaired vision. Soft keys might have an advantage over touchscreens there as well, though it may be that proximity-triggered annunciators would be superior to both. Ted, KN1CBR > >------------------------------ > >Message: 6 >Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:27:31 -0400 >From: Buddy Brannan >To: "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" , Elecraft > Reflector Reflector >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Lighten up, you say? I don't know...I sort of like having radios I can >actually use. Unless said touch screen will also come with some sort of >spoken interface, (they haven't, so far), I guess eventually I get to >look for a new hobby if that's where we're all going. And really, with >the aging ham population and the sight loss that sometimes comes with >said aging population, guess a lot of those guys are gonna be screwed, >too. Sounds like a great idea to me. > >-- >Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >Phone: 814-860-3194 >Mobile: 814-431-0962 >Email: buddy at brannan.name > > > > >> On Jun 5, 2016, at 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT >> wrote: >> >> A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future >>upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things on >>and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally released. >> >> Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more >>flexible than a silk-screened metal panel. >> >> I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's >>really time to lighten up, folks. >> >> Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of >>"empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the >>firmware grows to need them. >> >> From n7cqr at arrl.net Sun Jun 5 19:27:49 2016 From: n7cqr at arrl.net (Dan Presley) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 16:27:49 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 utility for mac? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C797EAF-FB97-4338-9984-33EC372B7B62@arrl.net> Thanks Phil-obviously it's working fine as is so no worries. The only other thing I noticed is that when using cw there's something between a click and a small thump in the headphones at the start of each element. I seem to recall this was an issue in the KX3 and there was a simple adjustment in the menu, but can't recall it at the moment. Not audible on the speaker, and same with different phones.Ring any bells with anyone? Dan Presley N7CQR n7cqr at arrl.net On Jun 5, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > Not yet. But my two Macs are dual-boot with Win 10 and BootCamp. > > I expect we'll have a Mac utility "any day now" :-) > > Phil W7OX > > On 6/5/16 1:51 PM, Dan Presley wrote: >> Does anyone know if the KX2 utility program is available for Macs? I only see a windows version on the software page. Alternatively-can I use the KX3 utility program for the 2? Thanks. >> >> Dan Presley N7CQR >> n7cqr at arrl.net >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to w7ox at socal.rr.com >> > From crustacean at brig-elec.com Sun Jun 5 19:32:53 2016 From: crustacean at brig-elec.com (John Pitz) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2016 19:32:53 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <7e31bc96-6209-9a73-0c11-af719fac77d7@socal.rr.com> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <39ba3fb2-a30f-1088-3338-e93e9e6c9da8@strus.co.uk> <7e31bc96-6209-9a73-0c11-af719fac77d7@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <1465169573.3012.2.camel@arabica> Thus is born the KXi On Sun, 2016-06-05 at 11:48 -0700, Phil Wheeler wrote: > Good discussion, Tony. > > Re "If my fantasy radio was developed it would be > quantum based system that would allow you call > through other dimensions over vast distances with > out any propagation delay." I'd settle for an > advancement which let me work you from California > running 5 Watts to a one meter indoor antenna and > no counterpoise -- during the low part of the > sunspot cycle :-) > > 73, Phil W7OX > > On 6/5/16 11:28 AM, Tony G6GLP wrote: > > Hi All, > > I thought I might put my oar in on this; New > > products need a market is true and trying to > > second guess it is another story. > > > > How would I go about developing a new product? I > > believe that we need to see a gap in the market > > since we are not going to create a new market > > like texting. The size of the addressable > > customer base needs to be large enough to > > support the development cost. One thing that > > many people see as improvement is the touch > > screen, while I support development in this area > > it is not core functionality to our hobby (can I > > see the flack coming on that?). The KX2 and > > K-POD are good examples of pushing the new > > product while building on current development ( > > no I dont have an inside view of the products > > but it stands to reason). Who was it that said > > there are many Japanese VHF txcvrs? The latest > > trend is into the digital coms so something in > > that area maybe the next thing but I would > > recommend an open source approach to the digital > > coms to get others helping with the future > > development of repeater type multi channel things. > > I would personally be more interested in an > > integrated larger HF amp or even a combiner to > > use say three KPA500 to achieve the higher output. > > If my fantasy radio was developed it would be > > quantum based system that would allow you call > > through other dimensions over vast distances > > with out any propagation delay. Maybe in a few > > thousand years :-) > > > > 73 de Tony G6GLP > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to crustacean at brig-elec.com > From k9yeq at live.com Sun Jun 5 19:37:03 2016 From: k9yeq at live.com (Bill) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 18:37:03 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Touchscreen and Buttons In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Consider a control program with a Windows 10 touch screen that has excellent resolution and can be read outdoors, like the Windows surface book or the pro series. Excellent, bright displays, decent battery life. Bill K9YEQ -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dauer, Edward Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 6:27 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Touchscreen and Buttons Touchscreens versus physical buttons and knobs aren?t the only choices. Avionics manufacturers long ago went to so-called soft keys - physical buttons, and knobs, whose functions change with the screen context and which are labelled on the adjacent edge of each screen. The versatility is remarkable, and the screen never gets greasy from the pilot?s lunch - just the buttons do. I haven?t flown for a few years, since losing my medical; but that?s how the early glass cockpits looked in my last panel. It wouldn?t be a novel idea in radios, including Elecraft ? the P3, for example, has a simple version in its row of programmable keys. As to upgradability, a change in F/W that assigns a new function to a knob or key would come with a matching F/W -based change to the legend on the adjacent part of the affected screen. Simple. No stick-on labels required - just a well-designed non-touch-sensitive LCD screen. I do agree with the point about ops with impaired vision. Soft keys might have an advantage over touchscreens there as well, though it may be that proximity-triggered annunciators would be superior to both. Ted, KN1CBR > >------------------------------ > >Message: 6 >Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:27:31 -0400 >From: Buddy Brannan >To: "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" , Elecraft > Reflector Reflector >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Lighten up, you say? I don't know...I sort of like having radios I can >actually use. Unless said touch screen will also come with some sort of >spoken interface, (they haven't, so far), I guess eventually I get to >look for a new hobby if that's where we're all going. And really, with >the aging ham population and the sight loss that sometimes comes with >said aging population, guess a lot of those guys are gonna be screwed, >too. Sounds like a great idea to me. > >-- >Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >Phone: 814-860-3194 >Mobile: 814-431-0962 >Email: buddy at brannan.name > > > > >> On Jun 5, 2016, at 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT >> wrote: >> >> A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future >>upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things >>on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally released. >> >> Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more >>flexible than a silk-screened metal panel. >> >> I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's >>really time to lighten up, folks. >> >> Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of >>"empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the >>firmware grows to need them. >> >> ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k9yeq at live.com From jim at jtmiller.com Sun Jun 5 19:43:23 2016 From: jim at jtmiller.com (Jim Miller) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 19:43:23 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: References: <201606051622.u55GMq6q015393@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: There's a very nice bridge for N1MM+ to DXKeeper which I use for 6M activity when it's hoppin'. I wrote a simple UDC for it which captures name and grid. Works great. Plus the bridge now supports edits so if you edit your N1MM+ log it will be reflected in DXK. jim ab3cv On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 6:50 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > On Sun,6/5/2016 9:22 AM, Edward R Cole wrote: > >> Barely dare ask, but is there a logging program suited for VHF logging? >> My logs are simply excel spreadsheets and cover: >> No. MO/DY/YR TIME CALLSIGN GRID LOCATION DXCC WAS FREQ MODE QSL-RX >> QSL-SENT >> Last two columns track QSLs received "X" or sent "MO/DA/YR" >> > > Sure. DXKeeper may be good enough for slow VHF contest activity, but N1MM > Plus is far better with things are popping (i.e., when the band is open for > double-hop and you've got to finish the Q fast and move on to the next > station). N1MM Plus does nothing for QSL or awards, so you want DXKeeper > for that. See earlier posts in this thread for that. > > The bad news is that it could be difficult to export your Excel data to > any ham logging program, but it's worth poking around the internet for > someone who has done it. > > BTW -- Cabrillo logs have been the standard for contests for many years. > While some contests still accept other formats or paper logs, the trend is > to reject them because volunteers have gotten tired of doing what the > submitter didn't want to do -- enter it by hand, one QSO at a time, into > Cabrillo. :) > > 73, Jim K9YC > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jim at jtmiller.com > From lists at subich.com Sun Jun 5 19:46:06 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 19:46:06 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program In-Reply-To: <00e701d1bf72$6fbefea0$4f3cfbe0$@gmail.com> References: <201606051622.u55GMq6q015393@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> <00e701d1bf72$6fbefea0$4f3cfbe0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 6/5/2016 5:37 PM, Ian - Ham wrote: > One new feature that HRD has that I haven't heard about in any other > logger is the ability to take input from N1MM Logger+ directly as it > is being input into the contest logger. Also available in DXLab Suite (N1MM+/DXLab bridge). The one thing I can say is that DXLab Suite does not cause systems with limited power to bog like HRD can do. DXLab also provides seamless control of multiple rigs (up to four transceivers) with built-in (automatic) switching of sound cards, CW, FSK and PTT outputs based on the active transceiver. Of course, DXLab Suite (DXKeeper) also supports VUCC and all of the newer VHF digital modes. New modes can be added by the user as needed. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 6/5/2016 5:37 PM, Ian - Ham wrote: > I'm late jumping into this discussion, but want to add my two cents' worth. > In the interest of full disclosure, I'm a beta tester and evangelist for Ham > Radio Deluxe, but have no financial interest. > > HRD provides all the functionality everyone has mentioned on this list > (including the info Ed asked for below, for V/UHF logging). In addition to > rig control, logging (which provides at-a-glance worked/confirmed info in > the cluster window), and digi modes, HRD also provides satellite tracking > and rotor control, all in one suite of tools. Awards tracking is superb. > And, HRD allows the use of MariaDB (a variant of MySQL) as the log database, > instead of just using Access (Access is the default data store, but it can > be converted very easily, following the video on HRD's YouTube channel). One > new feature that HRD has that I haven't heard about in any other logger is > the ability to take input from N1MM Logger+ directly as it is being input > into the contest logger. There are a couple of configuration items in HRD to > set, and the HRD logger must be running in the background during the > contest. This eliminates the step of exporting the contest log to an ADIF > and then importing it into HRD. I admit my bias, but feel HRD is well worth > the license fee and is among the best all-in-one suites available. > > Thanks and 73, > > --Ian > Ian Kahn, KM4IK > Roswell, GA EM74ua > km4ik.ian at gmail.com > 10-10 #74624, North Georgia Chapter #2038 > PODXS 070 #1962 > K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468 > > From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sun Jun 5 20:37:29 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 20:37:29 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Watt Meter Calibration Question In-Reply-To: <1465166997998-7618511.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1465166997998-7618511.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <0e3b3b2f-771f-8fb9-2060-5e9dab726251@embarqmail.com> Clark, The detection diodes in the K3 (and the LP100A wattmeter as well), do not have a perfectly linear relationship vs. frequency response. The LP-100A is quite good, but can be in error by as much as 5% (Larry will not guarantee it closer, I have asked). The K3 wattmeter can also have up to a 10% error in its readings (may vary with frequency). So the net of what I am trying to say is that at the 100 watt level, a wattmeter reading between 90 and 110 watts is within the range of normal expectations. We have come to be "accuracy obsessed" since the advent of digital displays. In the days of analog meters, there was always a region of uncertainty due to the inability to read the needle on the meter to a high degree of accuracy - parallax effects, the width of the needle, as well as the inherent accuracy of the circuits the meter was indicating. In todays world of digital displays, we assume that all displayed digits are true and accurate, when in truth, only the first two digits of the display are valid in an instrument that measures to a 10% accuracy. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/5/2016 6:49 PM, engineercm wrote: > Noticed today 20m output measured by LP100A was 90w when K3 wattmeter set to > 100w. Same with 10m; other bands measured close enough. Updated firmware to > latest and performed Transmit Calibration. Calib:WM HP at 50w set to agree > with LP100A. In order to get 100w on LP100A, I have to crank the K3 output > so that it reads 110 on the internal wattmeter. Why? Slope effect of > internal WM? > > From clark.macaulay at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 20:55:11 2016 From: clark.macaulay at gmail.com (Clark Macaulay) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 20:55:11 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Watt Meter Calibration Question In-Reply-To: <0e3b3b2f-771f-8fb9-2060-5e9dab726251@embarqmail.com> References: <1465166997998-7618511.post@n2.nabble.com> <0e3b3b2f-771f-8fb9-2060-5e9dab726251@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Don. I suspected as much. Precision (number of digits) and accuracy (compared to a known standard) are very different. I guess it doesn't matter what the power level is except when running QRP where one must be below 5w. That's why I always adjust my power output to be 4.5 w just to be sure. I'm sure you remember slide rules used in engineering schools before the pocket calculators came along in the 60's. I still have mine and when I look at remember some of my colleagues that would read to 5 digits from their "slip-stick". BTW: it was amazing to watch the K3 run through it's TX Calibration. After having the K3 for a few years, I'm still learning. What an amazing feat of engineering. Clark WU4B On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 8:37 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Clark, > > The detection diodes in the K3 (and the LP100A wattmeter as well), do not > have a perfectly linear relationship vs. frequency response. > The LP-100A is quite good, but can be in error by as much as 5% (Larry > will not guarantee it closer, I have asked). > The K3 wattmeter can also have up to a 10% error in its readings (may vary > with frequency). > > So the net of what I am trying to say is that at the 100 watt level, a > wattmeter reading between 90 and 110 watts is within the range of normal > expectations. > > We have come to be "accuracy obsessed" since the advent of digital > displays. In the days of analog meters, there was always a region of > uncertainty due to the inability to read the needle on the meter to a high > degree of accuracy - parallax effects, the width of the needle, as well as > the inherent accuracy of the circuits the meter was indicating. In todays > world of digital displays, we assume that all displayed digits are true and > accurate, when in truth, only the first two digits of the display are valid > in an instrument that measures to a 10% accuracy. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 6/5/2016 6:49 PM, engineercm wrote: > >> Noticed today 20m output measured by LP100A was 90w when K3 wattmeter set >> to >> 100w. Same with 10m; other bands measured close enough. Updated firmware >> to >> latest and performed Transmit Calibration. Calib:WM HP at 50w set to >> agree >> with LP100A. In order to get 100w on LP100A, I have to crank the K3 >> output >> so that it reads 110 on the internal wattmeter. Why? Slope effect of >> internal WM? >> >> >> > -- 72, Clark WU4B QRPARCI #10815 SKCC #3892 Southeastern DX Club North Georgia QRP Club Kennehoochee Amateur Radio Club *"It is vain to do with more what can be done with less."* *Attributed to *William of Occam (1288 AD - 1348 AD) From w3cmp at comcast.net Sun Jun 5 21:04:21 2016 From: w3cmp at comcast.net (w3cmp at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 01:04:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] Power cable for P3 In-Reply-To: <1728741658.12596643.1465174857676.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1737760955.12599056.1465175061352.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Hello: Does anyone know who may make a 12v dc power cable for the K3 to the P3? I did not see one on the Elecraft site, and would like to get one. Thanks. Chris W3CMP From ny9h at arrl.net Sun Jun 5 21:17:37 2016 From: ny9h at arrl.net (Bill Steffey NY9H) Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2016 21:17:37 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Touchscreen and Buttons In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: or just get an Expert MB-1 get your touchscreen, SDR, WIN 10 etc... http://eesdr.com/en/products-en/transceivers-en/mb1-en Tech support will be like working DX.... not quite Elecraft. bill At 07:37 PM 6/5/2016, Bill wrote: >Consider a control program with a Windows 10 touch screen that has excellent >resolution and can be read outdoors, like the Windows surface book or the >pro series. Excellent, bright displays, decent battery life. > >Bill From k2av.guy at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 21:27:53 2016 From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 21:27:53 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <001001d1bf7d$c9349a20$5b9dce60$@biz> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> <20160605202927.5869650.30417.40432@att.net> <001001d1bf7d$c9349a20$5b9dce60$@biz> Message-ID: For contesters, K Pod vs. touchscreen is matter of thousands of repetitive movements during a contest. And if one must move one's hands away from a keyboard, what movement is the most accurate time after time, and is there a resting spot for the base of the hand to support the weight of the arm so that is not on the arm muscles the entire time. There is a strip of desk between me and my left-handed trackball, my left and right hand keyboard and right hand keyer paddle to rest wrist or hand so my arms do not get so tired. I have arms on my chair which support my elbows at desk height. That means going qso to qso without repetitive effort to raise my arms. I can get to everything qso-to qso repetitive with horizontal arc, supported side-to-side movement. The touch screen implementations I have seen involve raising arms and free, unsupported touching well above the desk surface. Hand and arm musculature must be accurate to accomplish tasks. The KPod is possibly a replacement for the seven far right columns of keys on my Logitech K750 solar wireless keyboard. That being the case, one of the "mini" keyboards would do and the KPod fit in the vacated space. I will be reading about the KPod carefully now, and thinking. It's tempting. 73, Guy K2AV On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 6:58 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > Looking at the K-POD functionality, it seems to me that the future is > modular. > > Already rigs like the K3 have an RF section, a control section, a signal > processing section and an I/O section that are largely on separate boards > in separate parts of the rig. And then there is the display section which > is a separate box such as the P3, PX3 or even a PC. > > Except for the extremely compact rigs, it seems to me the future will > bring increased options that can be plugged into each other according to > the operator's interests and needs. Even highly compact rigs may find > features such as frequency, spectrum, settings and other such items on > wearable displays like glasses or on a Braille readout. Couple in an earwig > mic/headphone and a smartphone size device that handles logging and I can > imagine someone sitting on a park bench staring off into space saying "CQ > Contest, CQ Contest, CQ Contes...". > > A few years ago such a scene would have people calling the guys with the > funny white jackets but today I doubt if most people would even notice. > > (BTW, sri about the K-NOB reference. That somehow slipped off of my > fingers unnoticed until Dick caught it. The little box does have a big > knob!) > > 73, Ron AC7AC > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2av.guy at gmail.com > From kevinr at coho.net Sun Jun 5 21:39:28 2016 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr at coho.net) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 18:39:28 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Hypothetical New Product Message-ID: Since its inception Elecraft has been on a quest. The quest for the most user friendly, convenient, trail radio. They have explored a variety of architectures along the way with a consistently enjoyable user interface. They have eliminated almost all of the external connections to a transceiver: the paddle is attached, the battery is inside, and the antenna can be as simple as a BNC connected whip. The last external link needs to be severed: the logging system. Logging systems can be as simple as a 3x5 card and a stubby, golf pencil to a whiz bang laptop to voice recorder to a smart phone. But each of them requires me to input the data in some form. Why? Why do I need to send my input to a chunk of memory when the transceiver already has the provision for text recognition? As I send my information in response to the contact's information why can't the Elecraft CW decode algorithm provide that data in a stream to be parsed? Pattern recognition can be used to scan the raw text stream and find: a call sign, RST, S/P/C, and a serial number. Once each of these is parsed they can be tossed into a chunk of spare memory for the on board log along with a time stamp. I think a few lines of screen real estate, a single (tap) button, and a largish (?) chunk of memory would allow for within the rig logging. Bring the rig home, hook up a USB cable, and log the rig's data to your logging database. If the rig's CPU is stressed by this an addon board could be created with additional processing power. Macros can be created for a variety of contest formats and allow for the recognition of DX call signs as well as the ones for North America. My first rev would be to allow the user to hand log by hitting the log/no log tap button for the appropriate mode and allow user entry (and edit) via the paddles. As I mentioned previously a few lines of screen real estate and the necessary chunk of memory are required for this, no extra processor cycles simply a few more subroutines. The second rev requires a little bit of artificial intelligence (aka some form of regular pattern recognition). A daughterboard would take the raw text stream as input and parse out the logging data as it is trained. As long as the Elecraft CW decode subroutine can provide decent text the 'recognizer' AI can start logging contacts. I don't think the second rev is impossible or even all that difficult. Maybe by 2018?? 73, Kevin. KD5ONS From neilmartinsenburrell at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 22:05:21 2016 From: neilmartinsenburrell at gmail.com (Neil Martinsen-Burrell) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 21:05:21 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 and Linux contest logging In-Reply-To: <13902155.1465141749738.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <13902155.1465141749738.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. It appears that regardless of the logging program, I will need some additional connection between the radio and the computer for CW keying. Not even N1MM+ on Windows supports keying the K2 over the serial port using the native KY; command. At this point, I will probably resurrect a K3NG Arduino-based keyer that I had built before and try to use the WinKeyer support in that keyer firmware. If that will play with TRLinux, then I imagine I will stick with what I know (a tiny bit), but it appears that there is a wide gap in the market for a modern GUI contest logger on Linux. ;) Thanks again to everyone for their suggestions. -Neil N0FN On Jun 5, 2016 10:49, "Jim KO5V" wrote: > I cannot directly answer your questions about logging programs with > Ubuntu, but I can say that Oracle Virtual Box running XP has worked well > for me - a LOT better than attempting to run some programs with Wine. I > must also say that I did go back to Ubuntu 12.4 after a later upgrade > lobotomized my machine, so I am a bit behind the curve. I need to spend > some time and see if I can upgrade to something a bit more current, but the > last upgrade was a disaster! > > Good luck, and let us know what you find out, > > 73, Jim KO5V > K2 7225 > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to neilmartinsenburrell at gmail.com > From jermo at carolinaheli.com Sun Jun 5 22:06:20 2016 From: jermo at carolinaheli.com (Jerry More) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 22:06:20 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <9AACB963-9F98-41A9-8D08-ADE59FCE00E1@carolinaheli.com> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> <9AACB963-9F98-41A9-8D08-ADE59FCE00E1@carolinaheli.com> Message-ID: <0Ma46L-1atzYw32gp-00Lpvb@mrelay.perfora.net> Oh,, and I wanted to point out that if you are using a computer with CAT then most software packages allow you to operate with keyboard shortcuts to QSY, tune up, tune down, change modes, filters..etc.. all up to your imagination depending on the software and your needs. Jer Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Jerry Moore Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 5:05 PM To: John; n5ge at n5ge.com Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products Adding $100 or more to add a touchscreen ui to a radio provides very little value in my view, is silly. The radio cost to value ratio is very low (meaning the value is high). The only exception I can see would be integrating the P3 as an option (hopefully enhancing with a micro computer/ssd for logging, digital, extended macros...etc, basically what I'm doing now with a raspberry pi). So that is if the cost is comparable to getting the P3. Without the features of the P3 integrated; who changes settings so often that the included programmable macro buttons aren't enough? On June 5, 2016 4:35:26 PM EDT, John wrote: Ha, Elecraft needs to progress at some stage, or get left behind. Touch screen UI is and has been extensively used - 3 billion touch screen smart phones out there, 1.2 billion touch screen tablets. I can see you all reaching for your keyboards to protest that phones and tablets are not the same thing. Well, touch screen UI have also moved over to commercial products, the military and airline pilots also use touch screen UI communication devices. If they are good enough to be used on commercial aircraft and in military applications, then it sure is good enough for ham radio. Touch screen UI panels having become so prolific, that they have dropped the cost enormously, resolution is picture sharp and reliability is extremely good. Touch screens have huge potential, and almost unlimited versatility. If you need more knobs or buttons on your rig, due to new features having been added??no problem with a touch screen. Just a firmware update to add a knob, button, slider or meter onto the screen. The problem with conventional rigs, is you run out of physical knobs and buttons when features are added to the radio. I see this in my KX3 - some knobs have three functions, and to try and remember what each knobs second or third function does, becomes difficult. Food for thought :-) 73 John On 5 Jun 2016, at 10:13 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE wrote: Don, I suspect that having redesigned a rig with touch screen capability the manufacturer would, in a short period of time realize the error of their ways. Hopfully they would still have enough capital to revert to the original design and fire the person responsible for the change. On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:37:42 -0400, you wrote: Lynn, Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for blind operators. Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios with those blind operators particularly in mind. A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally released. Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more flexible than a silk-screened metal panel. I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's really time to lighten up, folks. Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the firmware grows to need them. On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n5ge at n5ge.com Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jkramer at iafrica.com Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jermo at carolinaheli.com -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. From k5hm.ron at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 22:50:36 2016 From: k5hm.ron at gmail.com (K5HM) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 21:50:36 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <0Ma46L-1atzYw32gp-00Lpvb@mrelay.perfora.net> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> <9AACB963-9F98-41A9-8D08-ADE59FCE00E1@carolinaheli.com> <0Ma46L-1atzYw32gp-00Lpvb@mrelay.perfora.net> Message-ID: <01d201d1bf9e$35034600$9f09d200$@gmail.com> I have a new car with Touchscreen controls. When the engine is off, I see all the finger marks. Ugh. No touchscreen for me. 73, Ron, K5HM k5hm.ron at gmail.com www.qrz.com/db/k5hm Excelsior! -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jerry More Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 9:06 PM To: John ; n5ge at n5ge.com Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products Oh,, and I wanted to point out that if you are using a computer with CAT then most software packages allow you to operate with keyboard shortcuts to QSY, tune up, tune down, change modes, filters..etc.. all up to your imagination depending on the software and your needs. Jer Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Jerry Moore Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 5:05 PM To: John; n5ge at n5ge.com Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products Adding $100 or more to add a touchscreen ui to a radio provides very little value in my view, is silly. The radio cost to value ratio is very low (meaning the value is high). The only exception I can see would be integrating the P3 as an option (hopefully enhancing with a micro computer/ssd for logging, digital, extended macros...etc, basically what I'm doing now with a raspberry pi). So that is if the cost is comparable to getting the P3. Without the features of the P3 integrated; who changes settings so often that the included programmable macro buttons aren't enough? On June 5, 2016 4:35:26 PM EDT, John wrote: Ha, Elecraft needs to progress at some stage, or get left behind. Touch screen UI is and has been extensively used - 3 billion touch screen smart phones out there, 1.2 billion touch screen tablets. I can see you all reaching for your keyboards to protest that phones and tablets are not the same thing. Well, touch screen UI have also moved over to commercial products, the military and airline pilots also use touch screen UI communication devices. If they are good enough to be used on commercial aircraft and in military applications, then it sure is good enough for ham radio. Touch screen UI panels having become so prolific, that they have dropped the cost enormously, resolution is picture sharp and reliability is extremely good. Touch screens have huge potential, and almost unlimited versatility. If you need more knobs or buttons on your rig, due to new features having been added??no problem with a touch screen. Just a firmware update to add a knob, button, slider or meter onto the screen. The problem with conventional rigs, is you run out of physical knobs and buttons when features are added to the radio. I see this in my KX3 - some knobs have three functions, and to try and remember what each knobs second or third function does, becomes difficult. Food for thought :-) 73 John On 5 Jun 2016, at 10:13 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE wrote: Don, I suspect that having redesigned a rig with touch screen capability the manufacturer would, in a short period of time realize the error of their ways. Hopfully they would still have enough capital to revert to the original design and fire the person responsible for the change. On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:37:42 -0400, you wrote: Lynn, Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for blind operators. Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios with those blind operators particularly in mind. A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally released. Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more flexible than a silk-screened metal panel. I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's really time to lighten up, folks. Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the firmware grows to need them. On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n5ge at n5ge.com Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jkramer at iafrica.com Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jermo at carolinaheli.com -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k5hm.ron at gmail.com From hhoyt at mebtel.net Sun Jun 5 22:50:17 2016 From: hhoyt at mebtel.net (Howard Hoyt) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 22:50:17 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day Message-ID: <188df573-5a60-4bb6-f21b-ff1901789af9@mebtel.net> Hi Elecraft Braintrust, I will be part of an 8A effort here in Orange County, NC, and last year I used a PbA battery with a 25W Coleman solar panel and its supplied charger which was noisy, so I ended up getting a second PbA battery and just charging one offline during the day. It worked fine, and I was able to run my KX3 and Asus Transformer PC for the entire Field Day no problem. This year I am using a Bioenno 20AH LiFePO_4 battery and want to use their MPPT charger model SC-1220JU. Has anyone on this list used one of the Bioenno MPPT chargers, and are they RF quiet? I appreciate any shared experience, Howie - WA4PSC From tim at sy-edm.com Sun Jun 5 22:56:43 2016 From: tim at sy-edm.com (a45wg) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 06:56:43 +0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <0Ma46L-1atzYw32gp-00Lpvb@mrelay.perfora.net> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> <9AACB963-9F98-41A9-8D08-ADE59FCE00E1@carolinaheli.com> <0Ma46L-1atzYw32gp-00Lpvb@mrelay.perfora.net> Message-ID: <96BF3983-A62C-4BC6-BDAF-AC46F9543DAE@sy-edm.com> Interesting set of topics - I decided to go for the Elecraft route for the simple reason I hoped their superior RX capabilities would help me make more QSO?s. I have not been disappointed. I did not care about touch this or button that. A radio should primarily be for sending and receiving - what else is added is extra; 73s to all Tim - A45WG From ron at cobi.biz Sun Jun 5 22:58:06 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 19:58:06 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Power cable for P3 In-Reply-To: <1737760955.12599056.1465175061352.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> References: <1728741658.12596643.1465174857676.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <1737760955.12599056.1465175061352.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000b01d1bf9f$40a1b5e0$c1e521a0$@biz> It is available from elecraft. Order E850427. It's normally supplied with the P3. You can roll your own. K3 end is a standard RCA type connector. P3 end is a 2.1 mm barrel connector. The + line goes from the pin on the RCA to the center on the barrel. If you have the P3SVGA option installed in our P3, check the power connector on the back of your K3. It needs to say 1.0 amp max. If it says 0.5 A max, you'll need to do a mod on your K3. If the mod is needed you can do your own. Elecraft provides instructions and parts. Order K312MDKT. Also, you can have Elecraft do it for you. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of w3cmp at comcast.net Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 6:04 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Power cable for P3 Hello: Does anyone know who may make a 12v dc power cable for the K3 to the P3? I did not see one on the Elecraft site, and would like to get one. Thanks. Chris W3CMP ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From ron at cobi.biz Sun Jun 5 23:02:43 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 20:02:43 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> <20160605202927.5869650.30417.40432@att.net> <001001d1bf7d$c9349a20$5b9dce60$@biz> Message-ID: <000c01d1bf9f$e58503a0$b08f0ae0$@biz> A key consideration in the K-POD design was to minimize hand movements when working at a keyboard while contesting or chasing DX. The knob handles both VFO controls and the OFS while you get to choose which 16 K3 macros you need to launch with a tap or press on the K-POD switches. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Guy Olinger K2AV Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 6:28 PM To: Ron D'Eau Claire Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products For contesters, K Pod vs. touchscreen is matter of thousands of repetitive movements during a contest. And if one must move one's hands away from a keyboard, what movement is the most accurate time after time, and is there a resting spot for the base of the hand to support the weight of the arm so that is not on the arm muscles the entire time. There is a strip of desk between me and my left-handed trackball, my left and right hand keyboard and right hand keyer paddle to rest wrist or hand so my arms do not get so tired. I have arms on my chair which support my elbows at desk height. That means going qso to qso without repetitive effort to raise my arms. I can get to everything qso-to qso repetitive with horizontal arc, supported side-to-side movement. The touch screen implementations I have seen involve raising arms and free, unsupported touching well above the desk surface. Hand and arm musculature must be accurate to accomplish tasks. The KPod is possibly a replacement for the seven far right columns of keys on my Logitech K750 solar wireless keyboard. That being the case, one of the "mini" keyboards would do and the KPod fit in the vacated space. I will be reading about the KPod carefully now, and thinking. It's tempting. 73, Guy K2AV From n7xy at n7xy.net Sun Jun 5 23:32:55 2016 From: n7xy at n7xy.net (Bob Nielsen) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 20:32:55 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 inaugural qso! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Are you sure that it wasn't FW5JJ? He has been fairly active recently. KX2 at Seaside! I'm still waiting for one I ordered on 5/26 (grumble, grumble). Bob, N7XY On 6/4/16 11:35 PM, Dan Presley wrote: > Ok-I bit the bullet and got the last KX2 today from Eric at the Seapac (Oregon) hamfest. I took it home tonight and a bit later I got around to firing it up for an inaugural qso. I was tuning on 40 and heard a clean and fast signal but missed the call the first time, I sent mine and he came right back-FW2JJ dx from Wallis Island! 5W into my delta loop. I think I'm gonna like this little radio-but I already knew that -currently owning K2 #1010 and a KX3...summer SOTA with the loop antenna is coming up. Thanks guys for a wonderful little rig! > > > Dan Presley N7CQR > n7cqr at arrl.net > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n7xy at n7xy.net > From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 00:47:42 2016 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 07:47:42 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 and Linux contest logging In-Reply-To: References: <13902155.1465141749738.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1307A876-01B8-47EE-911C-1C381068F45E@gmail.com> What I did with my K2 was to appropriate the wire used for ALC in the K2-to-computer cable and connect it to the DTR pin of the computer's RS232 port. Then I added two Schottky diodes inside the K2 from this DTR line to the dit and dah inputs for the internal keyer. Finally, I set the menu parameter in K2 that allows a simultaneous paddle closure to act as a hand key input and told N1MM to use DTR keying. With a paddle plugged into the K2's key jack I can use computer or manual keying at will. If your Linux logging program supports DTR CW keying, this is a simple solution. Vic 4X6GP > On 6 Jun 2016, at 05:05, Neil Martinsen-Burrell wrote: > > Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. It appears that regardless of the > logging program, I will need some additional connection between the radio > and the computer for CW keying. Not even N1MM+ on Windows supports keying > the K2 over the serial port using the native KY; command. > > At this point, I will probably resurrect a K3NG Arduino-based keyer that I > had built before and try to use the WinKeyer support in that keyer > firmware. If that will play with TRLinux, then I imagine I will stick with > what I know (a tiny bit), but it appears that there is a wide gap in the > market for a modern GUI contest logger on Linux. ;) > > Thanks again to everyone for their suggestions. > > -Neil N0FN From frantz at pwpconsult.com Mon Jun 6 01:14:10 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 22:14:10 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 and Linux contest logging In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I believe RUMlogNG uses native commands for CW keying and RTTY. It sends CW & RTTY through a single USB/RS-232 interface. 73 Bill AE6JV On 6/5/16 at 7:05 PM, neilmartinsenburrell at gmail.com (Neil Martinsen-Burrell) wrote: >Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. It appears that regardless of the >logging program, I will need some additional connection between the radio >and the computer for CW keying. Not even N1MM+ on Windows supports keying >the K2 over the serial port using the native KY; command. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Privacy is dead, get over | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | it. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | - Scott McNealy | Los Gatos, CA 95032 From jkramer at iafrica.com Mon Jun 6 01:32:56 2016 From: jkramer at iafrica.com (John) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 07:32:56 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <01d201d1bf9e$35034600$9f09d200$@gmail.com> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> <9AACB963-9F98-41A9-8D08-ADE59FCE00E1@carolinaheli.com> <0Ma46L-1atzYw32gp-00Lpvb@mrelay.perfora.net> <01d201d1bf9e$35034600$9f09d200$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I have been using an IC-7300 with touchscreen for 2 months now. I have yet to wipe the screen, I see no fingerprints. Billions of iPhones, tablets and GPS units use a touchscreen without complaint. Look, I think it will be a long long time before Elecraft ever get to consider it, but I think it will be inevitable one day. Contact me in 10 years time, and tell me ?I told you so?, if it does not happen :-) 73 John On 6 Jun 2016, at 4:50 AM, K5HM wrote: I have a new car with Touchscreen controls. When the engine is off, I see all the finger marks. Ugh. No touchscreen for me. 73, Ron, K5HM k5hm.ron at gmail.com www.qrz.com/db/k5hm Excelsior! -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jerry More Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 9:06 PM To: John ; n5ge at n5ge.com Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products Oh,, and I wanted to point out that if you are using a computer with CAT then most software packages allow you to operate with keyboard shortcuts to QSY, tune up, tune down, change modes, filters..etc.. all up to your imagination depending on the software and your needs. Jer Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Jerry Moore Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 5:05 PM To: John; n5ge at n5ge.com Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products Adding $100 or more to add a touchscreen ui to a radio provides very little value in my view, is silly. The radio cost to value ratio is very low (meaning the value is high). The only exception I can see would be integrating the P3 as an option (hopefully enhancing with a micro computer/ssd for logging, digital, extended macros...etc, basically what I'm doing now with a raspberry pi). So that is if the cost is comparable to getting the P3. Without the features of the P3 integrated; who changes settings so often that the included programmable macro buttons aren't enough? On June 5, 2016 4:35:26 PM EDT, John wrote: Ha, Elecraft needs to progress at some stage, or get left behind. Touch screen UI is and has been extensively used - 3 billion touch screen smart phones out there, 1.2 billion touch screen tablets. I can see you all reaching for your keyboards to protest that phones and tablets are not the same thing. Well, touch screen UI have also moved over to commercial products, the military and airline pilots also use touch screen UI communication devices. If they are good enough to be used on commercial aircraft and in military applications, then it sure is good enough for ham radio. Touch screen UI panels having become so prolific, that they have dropped the cost enormously, resolution is picture sharp and reliability is extremely good. Touch screens have huge potential, and almost unlimited versatility. If you need more knobs or buttons on your rig, due to new features having been added??no problem with a touch screen. Just a firmware update to add a knob, button, slider or meter onto the screen. The problem with conventional rigs, is you run out of physical knobs and buttons when features are added to the radio. I see this in my KX3 - some knobs have three functions, and to try and remember what each knobs second or third function does, becomes difficult. Food for thought :-) 73 John On 5 Jun 2016, at 10:13 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE wrote: Don, I suspect that having redesigned a rig with touch screen capability the manufacturer would, in a short period of time realize the error of their ways. Hopfully they would still have enough capital to revert to the original design and fire the person responsible for the change. On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:37:42 -0400, you wrote: Lynn, Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for blind operators. Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios with those blind operators particularly in mind. A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally released. Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more flexible than a silk-screened metal panel. I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's really time to lighten up, folks. Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the firmware grows to need them. On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n5ge at n5ge.com Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jkramer at iafrica.com Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jermo at carolinaheli.com -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k5hm.ron at gmail.com From n7xy at n7xy.net Mon Jun 6 02:34:30 2016 From: n7xy at n7xy.net (Bob Nielsen) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 23:34:30 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> <9AACB963-9F98-41A9-8D08-ADE59FCE00E1@carolinaheli.com> <0Ma46L-1atzYw32gp-00Lpvb@mrelay.perfora.net> <01d201d1bf9e$35034600$9f09d200$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <338024e9-419e-7b3d-b4d2-e3f4a665cf45@n7xy.net> It's easy to clean a touchscreen with a microfiber cloth (and a very small amount of eyeglass cleaner or water if needed). The touchscreen on my IC-7100 failed after nearly a year (Icom replaced a decoder board under warranty) but this is not a normal occurrence and the screen itself was not affected. 73, Bob N7XY On 6/5/16 10:32 PM, John wrote: > I have been using an IC-7300 with touchscreen for 2 months now. I have yet to wipe the screen, I see > no fingerprints. Billions of iPhones, tablets and GPS units use a touchscreen without complaint. Look, > I think it will be a long long time before Elecraft ever get to consider it, but I think it will be inevitable > one day. Contact me in 10 years time, and tell me ?I told you so?, if it does not happen :-) > > 73 > John > > > > > On 6 Jun 2016, at 4:50 AM, K5HM wrote: > > I have a new car with Touchscreen controls. When the engine is off, I see all the finger marks. Ugh. No touchscreen for me. > > 73, > Ron, K5HM > k5hm.ron at gmail.com > www.qrz.com/db/k5hm > > Excelsior! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jerry More > Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 9:06 PM > To: John ; n5ge at n5ge.com > Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products > > Oh,, and I wanted to point out that if you are using a computer with CAT then most software packages allow you to operate with keyboard shortcuts to QSY, tune up, tune down, change modes, filters..etc.. all up to your imagination depending on the software and your needs. > Jer > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Jerry Moore > Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 5:05 PM > To: John; n5ge at n5ge.com > Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products > > Adding $100 or more to add a touchscreen ui to a radio provides very little value in my view, is silly. The radio cost to value ratio is very low (meaning the value is high). The only exception I can see would be integrating the P3 as an option (hopefully enhancing with a micro computer/ssd for logging, digital, extended macros...etc, basically what I'm doing now with a raspberry pi). > > So that is if the cost is comparable to getting the P3. > > Without the features of the P3 integrated; who changes settings so often that the included programmable macro buttons aren't enough? > > On June 5, 2016 4:35:26 PM EDT, John wrote: > Ha, Elecraft needs to progress at some stage, or get left behind. > > Touch screen UI is and has been extensively used - 3 billion touch screen smart phones out there, 1.2 billion touch screen tablets. I can see you all reaching for your keyboards to protest that phones and tablets are not the same thing. Well, touch screen UI have also moved over to commercial products, the military and airline pilots also use touch screen UI communication devices. If they are good enough to be used on commercial aircraft and in military applications, then it sure is good enough for ham radio. > Touch screen UI panels having become so prolific, that they have dropped the cost enormously, resolution is picture sharp and reliability is extremely good. > Touch screens have huge potential, and almost unlimited versatility. If you need more knobs or buttons on your rig, due to new features having been added??no problem with a touch screen. > Just a firmware update to add a knob, button, slider or meter onto the screen. > The problem with conventional rigs, is you run out of physical knobs and buttons when features are added to the radio. I see this in my KX3 - some knobs have three functions, and to try and remember what each knobs second or third function does, becomes difficult. > > Food for thought :-) > > 73 > John > > > > > On 5 Jun 2016, at 10:13 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE wrote: > > Don, > > I suspect that having redesigned a rig with touch screen capability the manufacturer would, in a short period of time realize the error of their ways. Hopfully they would still have enough capital to revert to the original design and fire the person responsible for the change. > > On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:37:42 -0400, you wrote: > Lynn, > > Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for blind operators. > Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios with those blind operators particularly in mind. > A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: > A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally released. > > Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more flexible than a silk-screened metal panel. > > I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's really time to lighten up, folks. > > Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the firmware grows to need them. > > On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch > > > > > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com > > > > > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n5ge at n5ge.com > > > > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jkramer at iafrica.com > > > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jermo at carolinaheli.com > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k5hm.ron at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n7xy at n7xy.net From n5ge at n5ge.com Mon Jun 6 02:42:12 2016 From: n5ge at n5ge.com (Amateur Radio Operator N5GE) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 01:42:12 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <0Ma46L-1atzYw32gp-00Lpvb@mrelay.perfora.net> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> <9AACB963-9F98-41A9-8D08-ADE59FCE00E1@carolinaheli.com> <0Ma46L-1atzYw32gp-00Lpvb@mrelay.perfora.net> Message-ID: Below John says that airline and military pilots use touch screens, and he is right, but I have never seen or heard of blind aircraft pilot so that part of his comment is flawed. >On June 5, 2016 4:35:26 PM EDT, John wrote: >Ha, Elecraft needs to progress at some stage, or get left behind. >Well, touch screen UI have >also moved over to commercial products, the military and airline pilots also use touch screen >UI communication devices. If they are good enough to be used on commercial aircraft >and in military applications, then it sure is good enough for ham radio. > >On 5 Jun 2016, at 10:13 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE wrote: > >Don, > >I suspect that having redesigned a rig with touch screen >capability the manufacturer would, in a short period of time realize >the error of their ways. Hopfully they would still have enough >capital to revert to the original design and fire the person >responsible for the change. > >On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:37:42 -0400, you wrote: > Lynn, > > Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for > blind operators. > Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios > with those blind operators particularly in mind. > A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: > A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future > upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things > on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally > released. > > Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more > flexible than a silk-screened metal panel. > > I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's > really time to lighten up, folks. > > Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of > "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the > firmware grows to need them. > > On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the > touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch > > > > > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com > > > > > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n5ge at n5ge.com > > > >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to jkramer at iafrica.com > > >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to jermo at carolinaheli.com ARS N5GE From plambert at qa.com.au Mon Jun 6 02:51:01 2016 From: plambert at qa.com.au (Peter Lambert) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 16:51:01 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> <9AACB963-9F98-41A9-8D08-ADE59FCE00E1@carolinaheli.com> <0Ma46L-1atzYw32gp-00Lpvb@mrelay.perfora.net> Message-ID: <005901d1bfbf$cb864c50$6292e4f0$@qa.com.au> I've got a better idea. Don't make any new products. I do have to get a KX2, could never sell my KX3 and she'll kill me for sure. Thanks and congrats, another work of art. 73's Peter VK4JD -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Amateur Radio Operator N5GE Sent: Monday, 6 June 2016 4:42 PM To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products Below John says that airline and military pilots use touch screens, and he is right, but I have never seen or heard of blind aircraft pilot so that part of his comment is flawed. >On June 5, 2016 4:35:26 PM EDT, John wrote: >Ha, Elecraft needs to progress at some stage, or get left behind. >Well, touch screen UI have >also moved over to commercial products, the military and airline pilots >also use touch screen UI communication devices. If they are good enough >to be used on commercial aircraft and in military applications, then it sure is good enough for ham radio. > >On 5 Jun 2016, at 10:13 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE wrote: > >Don, > >I suspect that having redesigned a rig with touch screen capability the >manufacturer would, in a short period of time realize the error of >their ways. Hopfully they would still have enough capital to revert to >the original design and fire the person responsible for the change. > >On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:37:42 -0400, you wrote: > Lynn, > > Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for > blind operators. > Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios > with those blind operators particularly in mind. > A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: > A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future > upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things > on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally > released. > > Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more > flexible than a silk-screened metal panel. > > I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's > really time to lighten up, folks. > > Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of > "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the > firmware grows to need them. > > On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the > touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch > > > > > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > donwilh at embarqmail.com > > > > > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > n5ge at n5ge.com > > > >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email >list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >jkramer at iafrica.com > > >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email >list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >jermo at carolinaheli.com ARS N5GE ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to plambert at qa.com.au From jkramer at iafrica.com Mon Jun 6 04:16:30 2016 From: jkramer at iafrica.com (John) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 10:16:30 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> <9AACB963-9F98-41A9-8D08-ADE59FCE00E1@carolinaheli.com> <0Ma46L-1atzYw32gp-00Lpvb@mrelay.perfora.net> Message-ID: hahaha yes, but the reason you don?t see blind airline pilots, is because they need to visually see the final approach and all the controls in the cockpit?.and NOT because their communication equipment is not blind friendly. Blind people use touch screen devices daily - smart phones, tablets etc etc etc. On 6 Jun 2016, at 8:42 AM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE wrote: Below John says that airline and military pilots use touch screens, and he is right, but I have never seen or heard of blind aircraft pilot so that part of his comment is flawed. > On June 5, 2016 4:35:26 PM EDT, John wrote: > Ha, Elecraft needs to progress at some stage, or get left behind. > Well, touch screen UI have > also moved over to commercial products, the military and airline pilots also use touch screen > UI communication devices. If they are good enough to be used on commercial aircraft > and in military applications, then it sure is good enough for ham radio. > > On 5 Jun 2016, at 10:13 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE wrote: > > Don, > > I suspect that having redesigned a rig with touch screen > capability the manufacturer would, in a short period of time realize > the error of their ways. Hopfully they would still have enough > capital to revert to the original design and fire the person > responsible for the change. > > On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:37:42 -0400, you wrote: > Lynn, > > Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for > blind operators. > Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios > with those blind operators particularly in mind. > A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: > A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future > upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things > on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally > released. > > Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more > flexible than a silk-screened metal panel. > > I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's > really time to lighten up, folks. > > Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of > "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the > firmware grows to need them. > > On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the > touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch > > > > > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com > > > > > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n5ge at n5ge.com > > > > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jkramer at iafrica.com > > > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jermo at carolinaheli.com ARS N5GE ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jkramer at iafrica.com From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Mon Jun 6 06:13:17 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 03:13:17 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Watt Meter Calibration Question In-Reply-To: <0e3b3b2f-771f-8fb9-2060-5e9dab726251@embarqmail.com> References: <1465166997998-7618511.post@n2.nabble.com> <0e3b3b2f-771f-8fb9-2060-5e9dab726251@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <91c9c202-52e2-e49d-9a6d-def1e77a3f47@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Sun,6/5/2016 5:37 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > So the net of what I am trying to say is that at the 100 watt level, a > wattmeter reading between 90 and 110 watts is within the range of > normal expectations. > > We have come to be "accuracy obsessed" since the advent of digital > displays. Another excellent post, Don. I strongly agree. 73, Jim K9YC From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Mon Jun 6 06:20:27 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 03:20:27 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day In-Reply-To: <188df573-5a60-4bb6-f21b-ff1901789af9@mebtel.net> References: <188df573-5a60-4bb6-f21b-ff1901789af9@mebtel.net> Message-ID: <98689a45-8351-8088-2e83-4e1fa8e5e712@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Sun,6/5/2016 7:50 PM, Howard Hoyt wrote: > Has anyone on this list used one of the Bioenno MPPT chargers, and are > they RF quiet? Pretty quiet, but not totally so. The answer depends on proximity of antennas and operating frequency. I just tested the 4A charger they supplied for my 20Ah battery and heard a very low level buzz on the 160M antenna 25 ft from my shack. A choke with 18 turns on a single #31 2.4-in diameter toroid killed it. > I appreciate any shared experience, Me too -- the state of the art is advanced when we do that in a thoughtful way. Thanks for the good question, Howie. I had asked it myself a few weeks ago, which is why I checked mine. 73, Jim K9YC From alsopb at comcast.net Mon Jun 6 07:11:13 2016 From: alsopb at comcast.net (brian) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 11:11:13 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Watt Meter Calibration Question In-Reply-To: <0e3b3b2f-771f-8fb9-2060-5e9dab726251@embarqmail.com> References: <1465166997998-7618511.post@n2.nabble.com> <0e3b3b2f-771f-8fb9-2060-5e9dab726251@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <57555A51.6010509@comcast.net> Don, Can't argue with this. A long time ago a wise engineer said: "Never believe the last digit displayed". He was talking about the newly released 3 and 4 digit equipment display. Today it's almost as you say. Believe the first two. There are some exceptions to this rule. HP equipment (at least the older stuff) would only digitally display the number of truly believable significant digits. For example, their counters would not display all available digits but just those one can real. So there are exceptions to all rules of thumb. One has to know their measuring gear characteristics to know what to believe. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 6/6/2016 0:37 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Clark, > > The detection diodes in the K3 (and the LP100A wattmeter as well), do > not have a perfectly linear relationship vs. frequency response. > The LP-100A is quite good, but can be in error by as much as 5% (Larry > will not guarantee it closer, I have asked). > The K3 wattmeter can also have up to a 10% error in its readings (may > vary with frequency). > > So the net of what I am trying to say is that at the 100 watt level, a > wattmeter reading between 90 and 110 watts is within the range of normal > expectations. > > We have come to be "accuracy obsessed" since the advent of digital > displays. In the days of analog meters, there was always a region of > uncertainty due to the inability to read the needle on the meter to a > high degree of accuracy - parallax effects, the width of the needle, as > well as the inherent accuracy of the circuits the meter was indicating. > In todays world of digital displays, we assume that all displayed digits > are true and accurate, when in truth, only the first two digits of the > display are valid in an instrument that measures to a 10% accuracy. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 6/5/2016 6:49 PM, engineercm wrote: >> Noticed today 20m output measured by LP100A was 90w when K3 wattmeter >> set to >> 100w. Same with 10m; other bands measured close enough. Updated >> firmware to >> latest and performed Transmit Calibration. Calib:WM HP at 50w set to >> agree >> with LP100A. In order to get 100w on LP100A, I have to crank the K3 >> output >> so that it reads 110 on the internal wattmeter. Why? Slope effect of >> internal WM? >> >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to alsopb at comcast.net From bob.novas at verizon.net Mon Jun 6 07:33:59 2016 From: bob.novas at verizon.net (Bob Novas) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 07:33:59 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] External Touch Screen Message-ID: <027001d1bfe7$51c01b30$f5405190$@verizon.net> I am building a Raspberry Pi based external K3S touch screen thought experiment. At the retail level, the cost of the hardware is about $100. The touchscreen would control every aspect of the K3S that can be controlled via the computer commands. This would be in keeping with the Elecraft philosophy of modular functionality. One issue I can see is how to connect the gizmo to the K3S and not interrupt the K3S's connectivity with a PC. That might not be possible. Would that be a show stopper? Bob - W3DK From K8UT at charter.net Mon Jun 6 07:48:28 2016 From: K8UT at charter.net (Larry Gauthier (K8UT)) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 07:48:28 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] External Touch Screen In-Reply-To: <027001d1bfe7$51c01b30$f5405190$@verizon.net> References: <027001d1bfe7$51c01b30$f5405190$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Bob, I'm using a Pi here as an alternative to installing a Virtual Serial Port on Windows. The Pi routes and caches the CAT commands for a K3S, NaP3 panadapter, SteppIR antenna controller, and an Icom PW1 amplifier. ((actually, I just sold the PW1 amplifier and will likely modify that 4th USB port to talk to my new CW Skimmer software)). Inserting a touch screen GUI that participates in the CAT routing might be a cool extension of this app. I bought a "genuine" Pi Foundation 7 inch LCD display because I just "had to have one", but have not done anything with it yet. Despite having written many apps that run on the Pi I have not tried to tackle a GUI interface yet. Am curious about your touch screen project and your development environment. What language? Are you using an IDE? Details, please! ;-) -larry (K8UT) -----Original Message----- From: Bob Novas Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 7:33 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] External Touch Screen I am building a Raspberry Pi based external K3S touch screen thought experiment. At the retail level, the cost of the hardware is about $100. The touchscreen would control every aspect of the K3S that can be controlled via the computer commands. This would be in keeping with the Elecraft philosophy of modular functionality. One issue I can see is how to connect the gizmo to the K3S and not interrupt the K3S's connectivity with a PC. That might not be possible. Would that be a show stopper? Bob - W3DK ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k8ut at charter.net From thelastdb at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 08:27:35 2016 From: thelastdb at gmail.com (thelastdb) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 06:27:35 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day Message-ID: I have not experienced any RFI from my 4A Genasun MPPT controller. Myron WV?HPrinted on Recycled Data?-------- Original message --------From: Jim Brown Date: 6/6/2016 4:20 AM (GMT-07:00) To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Field Day On Sun,6/5/2016 7:50 PM, Howard Hoyt wrote: > Has anyone on this list used one of the Bioenno MPPT chargers, and are > they RF quiet? Pretty quiet, but not totally so. The answer depends on proximity of antennas and operating frequency. I just tested the 4A charger they supplied for my 20Ah battery and heard a very low level buzz on the 160M antenna 25 ft from my shack. A choke with 18 turns on a single #31 2.4-in diameter toroid killed it. > I appreciate any shared experience, Me too -- the state of the art is advanced when we do that in a thoughtful way. Thanks for the good question, Howie. I had asked it myself a few weeks ago, which is why I checked mine. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to thelastdb at gmail.com From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Mon Jun 6 08:42:26 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 05:42:26 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Watt Meter Calibration Question In-Reply-To: <57555A51.6010509@comcast.net> References: <1465166997998-7618511.post@n2.nabble.com> <0e3b3b2f-771f-8fb9-2060-5e9dab726251@embarqmail.com> <57555A51.6010509@comcast.net> Message-ID: <13623479-46f4-e66f-587f-59d39a0704e4@triconet.org> Not necessarily. For example, an HP8970 Noise Figure Meter reads to 0.01 dB, yet uncertainty (for just instrument error) is +/- 0.1 dB. In the days of yore, LNAs were typically highly mismatched at the input and this added further uncertainty. I once measured a friend's homebrew 1296 MHz preamp NF at 0.7 dB. I calculated the uncertainty at +/- 0.7 dB! I got a chuckle when HP gave an '8970 to the ARRL lab and they did a test on a preamp (ARR if memory serves) and gave the NF to two decimal places. Wes N7WS On 6/6/2016 4:11 AM, brian wrote: > > There are some exceptions to this rule. HP equipment (at least the older > stuff) would only digitally display the number of truly believable significant > digits. For example, their counters would not display all available digits > but just those one can real. So there are exceptions to all rules of thumb. > > One has to know their measuring gear characteristics to know what to believe. > > 73 de Brian/K3KO From ke6te.9 at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 08:52:41 2016 From: ke6te.9 at gmail.com (George Rebong) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 05:52:41 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 internal battery Message-ID: How do I charge the internal battery in my K2 and how does it works? Can I just leave the Battery switch ON and have my power supply charge it? I will be operating marine mobile in Hawaii on June 25 - July 2. -- George Rebong KE6TE From jkramer at iafrica.com Mon Jun 6 08:57:04 2016 From: jkramer at iafrica.com (John) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 14:57:04 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <5CB68394-D392-4EA7-8867-78A6608A5996@verizon.net> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> <9AACB963-9F98-41A9-8D08-ADE59FCE00E1@carolinaheli.com> <0Ma46L-1atzYw32gp-00Lpvb@mrelay.perfora.net> <5CB68394-D392-4EA7-8867-78A6608A5996@verizon.net> Message-ID: <27CAD86C-B99D-4B47-8FA7-0A51BC1D2B46@iafrica.com> Yes Ray. If you had told someone 10 - 15 years ago that most phones would have touch screens with very few knobs, you would likely have been laughed at. Look at how much can more now be done on a smart phone, compared to the old Nokia?s that were limited to a bunch of hardware buttons. 73 John On 6 Jun 2016, at 2:44 PM, Ray Sills wrote: Hi John: Indeed, it is true that on final, pilots use a visual reference to the ground. Even there, many aircraft have an audio ?readout? of height above ground for the last 100 feet of altitude. I believe that in the future, we will see autonomously flown aircraft. A lot of an airliner?s flight is already highly automated, so it will at some point be completely automated. After all, it?s already being done with various spacecraft that need to get from point A to point B with little margin of error. Whatever happens for ham radio, we?ll get used to it and adapt accordingly. I remember once hearing some old-timer hams saying that they would never, ever, ever, operate that silly sideband mode. It was too hard to tune in, and sounded wacky. :) 73 de Ray K2ULR KX3 #211 > On Jun 6, 2016, at 4:16 AM, John wrote: > > hahaha yes, but the reason you don?t see blind airline pilots, is because they need to visually > see the final approach and all the controls in the cockpit?.and NOT because their communication > equipment is not blind friendly. Blind people use touch screen devices daily - smart phones, > tablets etc etc etc. > From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Mon Jun 6 09:04:19 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 06:04:19 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> <9AACB963-9F98-41A9-8D08-ADE59FCE00E1@carolinaheli.com> <0Ma46L-1atzYw32gp-00Lpvb@mrelay.perfora.net> Message-ID: <1822db0f-5e0e-cb66-d876-f2391dc8d86e@triconet.org> You may disagree with it, but his comment is not "flawed." On 6/5/2016 11:42 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE wrote: > Below John says that airline and military pilots use touch screens, > and he is right, but I have never seen or heard of blind aircraft > pilot so that part of his comment is flawed. > From jstengrevics at comcast.net Mon Jun 6 09:04:11 2016 From: jstengrevics at comcast.net (stengrevics) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 06:04:11 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Problems with K144XV Transverter for K3S - Can't Hear Anything Message-ID: <1465218251778-7618553.post@n2.nabble.com> I have installed the transverter and phase lock option, and have enabled it successfully (per the instructions). I have an antenna whose SWR measures less than 1.2 across the band (confirmed with antenna analyzer). However, I can't hear anything on 2 meters. This was confirmed when I asked a ham located 5 miles away to meet me on 2 meters - nothing heard. This leads me to think that the problem is somewhere in the internal TMP coax connections to the K144XV or to the phase lock option. I have to say that the instructions for installing the K144XV cables were totally screwed up and I needed tech support to send me a picture of how they should go (which bore no resemblance to the instructions). I still have no confidence that I have these correctly installed. I would appreciate any suggestions from anyone who may have experienced similar problems. Thanks, John WA1EAZ -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Problems-with-K144XV-Transverter-for-K3S-Can-t-Hear-Anything-tp7618553.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From riese-k3djc at juno.com Mon Jun 6 09:08:15 2016 From: riese-k3djc at juno.com (riese-k3djc at juno.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 09:08:15 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: Re: New products Message-ID: > this is going to go on for a while isnt it Bob K3DJC I have a new car with Touchscreen controls. When the engine is off, I see all the finger marks. Ugh. No touchscreen for me. 73, Ron, K5HM k5hm.ron at gmail.com www.qrz.com/db/k5hm Excelsior! -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jerry More Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 9:06 PM To: John ; n5ge at n5ge.com Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products Oh,, and I wanted to point out that if you are using a computer with CAT then most software packages allow you to operate with keyboard shortcuts to QSY, tune up, tune down, change modes, filters..etc.. all up to your imagination depending on the software and your needs. Jer Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Jerry Moore Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 5:05 PM To: John; n5ge at n5ge.com Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products Adding $100 or more to add a touchscreen ui to a radio provides very little value in my view, is silly. The radio cost to value ratio is very low (meaning the value is high). The only exception I can see would be integrating the P3 as an option (hopefully enhancing with a micro computer/ssd for logging, digital, extended macros...etc, basically what I'm doing now with a raspberry pi). So that is if the cost is comparable to getting the P3. Without the features of the P3 integrated; who changes settings so often that the included programmable macro buttons aren't enough? On June 5, 2016 4:35:26 PM EDT, John wrote: Ha, Elecraft needs to progress at some stage, or get left behind. Touch screen UI is and has been extensively used - 3 billion touch screen smart phones out there, 1.2 billion touch screen tablets. I can see you all reaching for your keyboards to protest that phones and tablets are not the same thing. Well, touch screen UI have also moved over to commercial products, the military and airline pilots also use touch screen UI communication devices. If they are good enough to be used on commercial aircraft and in military applications, then it sure is good enough for ham radio. Touch screen UI panels having become so prolific, that they have dropped the cost enormously, resolution is picture sharp and reliability is extremely good. Touch screens have huge potential, and almost unlimited versatility. If you need more knobs or buttons on your rig, due to new features having been added??no problem with a touch screen. Just a firmware update to add a knob, button, slider or meter onto the screen. The problem with conventional rigs, is you run out of physical knobs and buttons when features are added to the radio. I see this in my KX3 - some knobs have three functions, and to try and remember what each knobs second or third function does, becomes difficult. Food for thought :-) 73 John On 5 Jun 2016, at 10:13 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE wrote: Don, I suspect that having redesigned a rig with touch screen capability the manufacturer would, in a short period of time realize the error of their ways. Hopfully they would still have enough capital to revert to the original design and fire the person responsible for the change. On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:37:42 -0400, you wrote: Lynn, Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for blind operators. Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios with those blind operators particularly in mind. A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally released. Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more flexible than a silk-screened metal panel. I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's really time to lighten up, folks. Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the firmware grows to need them. On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n5ge at n5ge.com Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jkramer at iafrica.com Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jermo at carolinaheli.com -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k5hm.ron at gmail.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to riese-k3djc at juno.com From donwilh at embarqmail.com Mon Jun 6 09:32:43 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 09:32:43 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 internal battery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <66035a9b-02e0-2443-a1f1-3e410ac25e0f@embarqmail.com> George, Increase the voltage of your power supply to 14.3 volts or a bit more, and leave the power supply connected and powered on for at least 16 hours. Yes, the battery switch should be in the ON position. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/6/2016 8:52 AM, George Rebong wrote: > How do I charge the internal battery in my K2 and how does it works? Can I > just leave the Battery switch ON and have my power supply charge it? I will > be operating marine mobile in Hawaii on June 25 - July 2. > From w2blc at nycap.rr.com Mon Jun 6 09:38:07 2016 From: w2blc at nycap.rr.com (Bill) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 09:38:07 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] External Touch Screen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2b18a313-5253-bbdb-7037-7d96914ee78b@nycap.rr.com> The Pigknob uses a small circuit in line with the K3's serial port, thus allowing control from the computer and the Pigknob at the same time. The other alternative is similar to the Genovation keypad route. Each key on the keypad is linked to a memory in the P3 - which is programmed to a macro - and sent to the K3 upon key press. I use a Genovation - it is good for my operation. In conjunction with the coming K-pod, it will be unbeatable. A touch screen would merely be a replacement for the positive tactile feedback keypad. Technology is great - when you can customize it for your own use. Bill W2BLC K-Line From anthony.scandurra at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 09:54:52 2016 From: anthony.scandurra at gmail.com (Anthony Scandurra) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 09:54:52 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Problems with K144XV Transverter for K3S - Can't Hear Anything In-Reply-To: <1465218251778-7618553.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1465218251778-7618553.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: I have experienced the same thing. Please send your suggestions to the reflector and not just to John privately. Thank you. 73, Tony K4QE On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:04 AM, stengrevics wrote: > I have installed the transverter and phase lock option, and have enabled it > successfully (per the instructions). I have an antenna whose SWR measures > less than 1.2 across the band (confirmed with antenna analyzer). However, > I > can't hear anything on 2 meters. This was confirmed when I asked a ham > located 5 miles away to meet me on 2 meters - nothing heard. > > This leads me to think that the problem is somewhere in the internal TMP > coax connections to the K144XV or to the phase lock option. > > I have to say that the instructions for installing the K144XV cables were > totally screwed up and I needed tech support to send me a picture of how > they should go (which bore no resemblance to the instructions). I still > have no confidence that I have these correctly installed. > > I would appreciate any suggestions from anyone who may have experienced > similar problems. > > Thanks, > > John WA1EAZ > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Problems-with-K144XV-Transverter-for-K3S-Can-t-Hear-Anything-tp7618553.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to anthony.scandurra at gmail.com > From pincon at erols.com Mon Jun 6 10:02:12 2016 From: pincon at erols.com (Charlie T, K3ICH) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 10:02:12 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <27CAD86C-B99D-4B47-8FA7-0A51BC1D2B46@iafrica.com> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> <9AACB963-9F98-41A9-8D08-ADE59FCE00E1@carolinaheli.com> <0Ma46L-1atzYw32gp-00Lpvb@mrelay.perfora.net> <5CB68394-D392-4EA7-8867-78A6608A5996@verizon.net> <27CAD86C-B99D-4B47-8FA7-0A51BC1D2B46@iafrica.com> Message-ID: <009f01d1bffc$0a29a420$1e7cec60$@erols.com> I remember back in the early eighties when I worked at Microlog Inc. in Gaithersburg MD, we experimented with a black-box, knobless "radio" that connected directly to the antenna and a computer terminal. The only analog components were to be the RF power amp. Back then, a 30 MEGAbit hard drive was considered HUGE, and typical clock speeds were still measured in (low) MHz ranges. This box was to run only RTTY and CW with around 50 watts (class C) output. We actually had a set working on low power, probably no higher than 80M and a few milliwatts of output. We successfully communicated between rooms on RTTY. Back then, terms like SDR etc., hadn't been created yet. Luckily for me, all the principles at Microlog were very active hams so it was a lot of fun. Unfortunately, this particular project never went into anything close to production although we had many lunch-time discussions about how kool it would be. 73, Charlie k3ICH -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 8:57 AM To: Ray Sills ; Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products Yes Ray. If you had told someone 10 - 15 years ago that most phones would have touch screens with very few knobs, you would likely have been laughed at. Look at how much can more now be done on a smart phone, compared to the old Nokia?s that were limited to a bunch of hardware buttons. 73 John From k5atg.aaron at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 10:09:00 2016 From: k5atg.aaron at gmail.com (Aaron K5ATG) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 09:09:00 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Message-ID: Does anyone know of any detailed instructions on installing the KX3 Utility on Linux Ubuntu? Aaron Scott K5ATG From Hans-Christoph at gmx.at Mon Jun 6 10:16:06 2016 From: Hans-Christoph at gmx.at (OE5CSP-Chris) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 07:16:06 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Broken VFO B Encoder-menu access? Message-ID: <1465222566877-7618561.post@n2.nabble.com> I hardly dare to ask this question, but is there a way to access into the menu and change settings which is normally done by using VFO B. It will take 2-3 weeks until I get a replacement part. 73,Chris-OE5CSP -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Broken-VFO-B-Encoder-menu-access-tp7618561.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From jmoodysr at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 10:28:09 2016 From: jmoodysr at gmail.com (Jon Moody) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 07:28:09 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day Message-ID: That has been my experience as well. I plan on more testing out in the field somewhere far far away from all the noise at my QTH. But it doesn't seem to add much to my local noise. I use a nice 60 watt foldable solar panel and it seems to work very well so far in my testing. -- Thanks Jon KG6VDW From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Mon Jun 6 10:43:00 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (wickedbeernut) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 07:43:00 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Broken VFO B Encoder-menu access? In-Reply-To: <1465222566877-7618561.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1465222566877-7618561.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1465224180754-7618563.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi Chris, You didn't mention which Elecraft product you're using. Check the Programmer's Reference for your product in order to see whether the menu parameter(s) in question can be set using a remote-control command (e.g., MN / MP). You should be able to execute the remote-control command from the associated PC-based utility (e.g., KX3 Utility). Joe Stone KF5WBO OE5CSP-Chris wrote > I hardly dare to ask this question, but is there a way to access into the > menu and change settings which is normally done by using VFO B. It will > take 2-3 weeks until I get a replacement part. > 73,Chris-OE5CSP -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Broken-VFO-B-Encoder-menu-access-tp7618561p7618563.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From w0mbt at w0mbt.net Mon Jun 6 10:54:20 2016 From: w0mbt at w0mbt.net (Bruce Nourish) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 14:54:20 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Untar it in your hormedir, run the kx3util script? On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 7:09 AM Aaron K5ATG wrote: > Does anyone know of any detailed instructions on installing the KX3 Utility > on Linux Ubuntu? > Aaron Scott K5ATG > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w0mbt at w0mbt.net > From frantz at pwpconsult.com Mon Jun 6 11:30:46 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 08:30:46 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Problems with K144XV Transverter for K3S - Can't Hear Anything In-Reply-To: <1465218251778-7618553.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: [CCing Ron since he does documentation for Elecraft.] I had similar problems when I installed the RefLock option in my K3 with the new synth. If you have the new synth, use the cabling diagrams from the new synth installation manual see pages 15 and 16. As far as I can tell, the installation manual for the RefLock hasn't been updated for the new synth. I also think the the firmware "enable" option does not check for signal on the RefLock input before signaling that the option is enabled. 73 Bill AE6JV On 6/6/16 at 6:04 AM, jstengrevics at comcast.net (stengrevics) wrote: >I have installed the transverter and phase lock option, and have enabled it >successfully (per the instructions). I have an antenna whose SWR measures >less than 1.2 across the band (confirmed with antenna analyzer). However, I >can't hear anything on 2 meters. This was confirmed when I asked a ham >located 5 miles away to meet me on 2 meters - nothing heard. > >This leads me to think that the problem is somewhere in the internal TMP >coax connections to the K144XV or to the phase lock option. > >I have to say that the instructions for installing the K144XV cables were >totally screwed up and I needed tech support to send me a picture of how >they should go (which bore no resemblance to the instructions). I still >have no confidence that I have these correctly installed. > >I would appreciate any suggestions from anyone who may have experienced >similar problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz |"Insofar as the propositions of mathematics refer to 408-356-8506 | reality, they are not certain; and insofar they are www.pwpconsult.com | certain, they do not refer to reality.? -- Einstein From Hans-Christoph at gmx.at Mon Jun 6 11:43:40 2016 From: Hans-Christoph at gmx.at (OE5CSP-Chris) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 08:43:40 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Broken VFO B Encoder-menu access? In-Reply-To: <1465224180754-7618563.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1465222566877-7618561.post@n2.nabble.com> <1465224180754-7618563.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1465227820645-7618566.post@n2.nabble.com> Sorry, it?s a K3. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Broken-VFO-B-Encoder-menu-access-tp7618561p7618566.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From w0mbt at w0mbt.net Mon Jun 6 11:48:09 2016 From: w0mbt at w0mbt.net (Bruce Nourish) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 15:48:09 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KXAT100 upgrade experience Message-ID: Hi Elecraft folks, Upgraded a second-hand KXPA100 with the ATU yesterday. Hardware was very easy, but once everything was plugged in, it wouldn't switch to ANT2 either via manual control on the front panel, or by command from my KX3, or command from the Linux utility. Reinstalling the firmware didn't help, but eventually tried the Reset Configuration button in the utility, and that did. Now it works perfectly. Maybe something to add to the documentation? Look forward to using this on Field Day! Bruce From n7tb at comcast.net Mon Jun 6 12:03:35 2016 From: n7tb at comcast.net (Terry Brown) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 09:03:35 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New Products Message-ID: <00fa01d1c00c$fb3e26f0$f1ba74d0$@comcast.net> I can hardly wait to read the next Digest of this group regarding the New Products discussion of touchscreens vs knob interfaced SD radios, because I MUST have the latest interface technology in order to have any enjoyment of Amateur Radio. Alas, my beloved KX3 looks doomed because Hamthought, Inc., has just released their latest radio. It has a Thought Screen. All a ham has to do is think of the frequency and the radio will go to it, as well as any other function of the radio. It is amazing technology and I think the Elecraft, ICOM, and all other Amateur Radio equipment manufacturers are in real trouble. They are going to have to adapt to the new technology or go out of business. Hams realize that the fate of the world revolves around the kind of interface a software-defined radio has. 73's, Terry From w7ox at socal.rr.com Mon Jun 6 12:10:53 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 09:10:53 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New Products In-Reply-To: <00fa01d1c00c$fb3e26f0$f1ba74d0$@comcast.net> References: <00fa01d1c00c$fb3e26f0$f1ba74d0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: Terry, A Thought Screen would be far too revealing, as would a Thought Keyboard on a computer :-) 73, Phil W7OX On 6/6/16 9:03 AM, Terry Brown wrote: > I can hardly wait to read the next Digest of this group regarding the New > Products discussion of touchscreens vs knob interfaced SD radios, because I > MUST have the latest interface technology in order to have any enjoyment of > Amateur Radio. Alas, my beloved KX3 looks doomed because Hamthought, Inc., > has just released their latest radio. It has a Thought Screen. All a ham > has to do is think of the frequency and the radio will go to it, as well as > any other function of the radio. It is amazing technology and I think the > Elecraft, ICOM, and all other Amateur Radio equipment manufacturers are in > real trouble. They are going to have to adapt to the new technology or go > out of business. Hams realize that the fate of the world revolves around > the kind of interface a software-defined radio has. > > > > 73's, > > > > Terry From tim at sy-edm.com Mon Jun 6 12:22:38 2016 From: tim at sy-edm.com (a45wg) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 20:22:38 +0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ubuntu 32 or 64 bit (the latter is a little more difficult) ? > On 6 Jun 2016, at 18:09, Aaron K5ATG wrote: > > Does anyone know of any detailed instructions on installing the KX3 Utility > on Linux Ubuntu? > Aaron Scott K5ATG > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to a45wg at sy-edm.com From rv6amark at yahoo.com Mon Jun 6 12:36:09 2016 From: rv6amark at yahoo.com (=?utf-8?B?TWFyaywgYXJzOiBLRTZCQg==?=) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 16:36:09 GMT Subject: [Elecraft] New products Message-ID: <000f426f.48c2ebb35b776867@yahoo.com> RE: ?Below John says that airline and military pilots use touch sreens, and he is right.This is incorrect. In my 45 years of military and airline aircraft engineering experience, I have not seen touch screens utilized to any significant extent in military or commercial aircraft displays. They have all used "programable hardware keys". Look carefully at their displays you will see a row of hardware keys on the bezel that surrounds the display. The use of these programable hardware keys gives the best of the touch screen world where you can change the key function based on the displayed options, without sacraficing the ergonomic advantages of a real key. The labels and functions of the keys change, but you press the hardware keys It is really more than simply tactile feedback. The ability to rest a gloved finger on the key before pressing is essential in the g-loaded world of flight. Note that in many cases the keys have short guards, or more correctly, guides between the keys to help prevent dual or incorrect key presses. Mark, ars: KE6BB From eric_csuf at hotmail.com Mon Jun 6 12:43:46 2016 From: eric_csuf at hotmail.com (EricJ) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 09:43:46 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New Products In-Reply-To: <00fa01d1c00c$fb3e26f0$f1ba74d0$@comcast.net> References: <00fa01d1c00c$fb3e26f0$f1ba74d0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: Ham radio becomes indistinguishable from gaming with the rise of contesting. Now ham gaming becomes ham VR gaming with the advent of Hamthought. Brave New World Two Hundred Meters and Down Eric KE6US On 6/6/2016 9:03 AM, Terry Brown wrote: > I can hardly wait to read the next Digest of this group regarding the New > Products discussion of touchscreens vs knob interfaced SD radios, because I > MUST have the latest interface technology in order to have any enjoyment of > Amateur Radio. Alas, my beloved KX3 looks doomed because Hamthought, Inc., > has just released their latest radio. It has a Thought Screen. All a ham > has to do is think of the frequency and the radio will go to it, as well as > any other function of the radio. It is amazing technology and I think the > Elecraft, ICOM, and all other Amateur Radio equipment manufacturers are in > real trouble. They are going to have to adapt to the new technology or go > out of business. Hams realize that the fate of the world revolves around > the kind of interface a software-defined radio has. > > > > 73's, > > > > Terry > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric_csuf at hotmail.com > > From KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com Mon Jun 6 12:49:27 2016 From: KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 09:49:27 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Message-ID: <8b578a0d-b379-20d0-b00c-10a370979953@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> Don, Please tell us why a radio must have only one user interface? We've had a long discussion of external programmable keypads for sighted operators. Lot of people like them. Same basic idea works for the visually impaired, and for those who just hate touch screens (or simply need more buttons). 73 -- Lynn On 6/5/2016 12:37 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Lynn, > > Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for > blind operators. > Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios > with those blind operators particularly in mind. > A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it. > > 73, > Don W3FPR From jkramer at iafrica.com Mon Jun 6 12:51:40 2016 From: jkramer at iafrica.com (John) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 18:51:40 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <000f426f.48c2ebb35b776867@yahoo.com> References: <000f426f.48c2ebb35b776867@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6605C456-7EE9-4B81-8B75-7A9125D9292B@iafrica.com> Mark I really thought this thread would have died by now :-) Incorrect - I was incorrectly quoted by another guy saying that I said military aircraft used touch screen UI. I did not say that, I said the military (not air force) used touch screens. The military do in my country, I don?t know about the USA. As far as commercial airlines, most airlines now use iPads. Taken from Wikipedia?quote <<<>>> So in my original post, and I still stand by it, Touch screen devices are being used in commercial airlines, and by the military (I didn?t say military aircraft), and if it is reliable enough for them to count on, it will surely be reliable enough for us hams 73 John On 6 Jun 2016, at 6:36 PM, Mark, ars: KE6BB via Elecraft wrote: RE: Below John says that airline and military pilots use touch sreens, and he is right.This is incorrect. In my 45 years of military and airline aircraft engineering experience, I have not seen touch screens utilized to any significant extent in military or commercial aircraft displays. They have all used "programable hardware keys". Look carefully at their displays you will see a row of hardware keys on the bezel that surrounds the display. The use of these programable hardware keys gives the best of the touch screen world where you can change the key function based on the displayed options, without sacraficing the ergonomic advantages of a real key. The labels and functions of the keys change, but you press the hardware keys It is really more than simply tactile feedback. The ability to rest a gloved finger on the key before pressing is essential in the g-loaded world of flight. Note that in many cases the keys have short guards, or more correctly, guides between the keys to help prevent dual or incorrect key presses. Mark, ars: KE6BB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jkramer at iafrica.com From ae5x at juno.com Mon Jun 6 13:10:40 2016 From: ae5x at juno.com (ae5x at juno.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 17:10:40 GMT Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 driving a KPA500 Message-ID: <20160606.121040.32303.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> I got around today to making up a cable to allow the KX2 to key my KPA500: http://ae5x.blogspot.com/2016/06/kx2-goes-qro.html A good combination that goes well together, keys smoothly and "puts boots on the KX2" as Doug DeMaw might have said. John AE5X http://ae5x.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Living Tips $3 Teeth Whitening Has Dentists Furious http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5755aeaad2df72eaa6870st01vuc From len at ka7ftp.com Mon Jun 6 13:18:49 2016 From: len at ka7ftp.com (len at ka7ftp.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 11:18:49 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <5f142db5-a2a8-10e0-7b35-439326039842@gmail.com> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <39ba3fb2-a30f-1088-3338-e93e9e6c9da8@strus.co.uk> <7e31bc96-6209-9a73-0c11-af719fac77d7@socal.rr.com> <5f142db5-a2a8-10e0-7b35-439326039842@gmail.com> Message-ID: <05de01d1c017$7de97e10$79bc7a30$@ka7ftp.com> As a developer of both hardware and software products that use touch screens I have mixed feelings. My number one gripe with soft environments is the tendency to continually modify the environment and jam more and more functionality into the same footprint. This either needs to be done with width or depth, take your pick. Both Apple and Windows are horrible abusers. Every new version of their software requires users to hunt down functions that have been moved or crammed down. Functions that were originally intuitive are now obfuscated in the name of progress. Lack of consistency is extremely frustrating for most users. Today because of the ease of soft environments it seems that companies feel compelled to continually bring a "new look" to each software revision of their website or product. How many of you think Yahoo scored a home run with NEO? In my opinion NEO is an absolute disaster. But corporate egos won't allow users out. How would you like someone mucking with your beloved radio in the name of pretty progress. I'll take consistency over pretty and modern every time. I'm buying a radio, I don't want an iPhone clone, or an Icom clone, I want my KX3 to look and exactly like the KX3 I bought. I trust the engineers at Elecraft to make acceptable and necessary upgrades for functionality. I also trust that they are not going to ruin a great radio in the name of glitter.. It has been pointed out previously in this thread that all of Elecraft's radios can be easily connected to a computer for computer control. Not everything in the world needs to be integrated, and often doing so creates compromises that are much more difficult to live with and limit the lifetime of a product. I'm tickled pink with my Elecraft products and don't feel the need for them to emulate anyone else to keep me as a customer! We shouldn't be compelled to buy a radio every two years like we do with cell phones. My expectation is to buy a product that will function for many years, and possibly a decade or more. I would rather have multiple Elecraft products rather than one that pretends to be all things to all people. 73 len From KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com Mon Jun 6 13:25:33 2016 From: KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 10:25:33 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] External Touch Screen In-Reply-To: <027001d1bfe7$51c01b30$f5405190$@verizon.net> References: <027001d1bfe7$51c01b30$f5405190$@verizon.net> Message-ID: On 6/6/2016 4:33 AM, Bob Novas wrote: > One issue I can see is how to connect the gizmo to the K3S and not interrupt > the K3S's connectivity with a PC. That might not be possible. Would that be > a show stopper? Use two serial ports on the Pi. One talks to the radio, one talks to the PC. Everything coming from the radio is processed by your software *and* sent to the PC. Everything from the PC is sent to the radio. Your software may need to listen to computer commands as well. Very possible, just lots of details. From n7rjn at nobis.net Mon Jun 6 13:25:48 2016 From: n7rjn at nobis.net (Robert Nobis) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 10:25:48 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <01d201d1bf9e$35034600$9f09d200$@gmail.com> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <8f82efe8-d79c-c052-789e-6c47dbb907c7@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> <9AACB963-9F98-41A9-8D08-ADE59FCE00E1@carolinaheli.com> <0Ma46L-1atzYw32gp-00Lpvb@mrelay.perfora.net> <01d201d1bf9e$35034600$9f09d200$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <671494EF-9BFA-4B48-BB12-CEFDD069162E@nobis.net> Fingerprints on a touchscreen are very easy to clean. Bob Nobis - N7RJN n7rjn at nobis.net > On Jun 5, 2016, at 19:50, K5HM wrote: > > I have a new car with Touchscreen controls. When the engine is off, I see all the finger marks. Ugh. No touchscreen for me. > > 73, > Ron, K5HM > k5hm.ron at gmail.com > www.qrz.com/db/k5hm > > Excelsior! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jerry More > Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 9:06 PM > To: John ; n5ge at n5ge.com > Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products > > Oh,, and I wanted to point out that if you are using a computer with CAT then most software packages allow you to operate with keyboard shortcuts to QSY, tune up, tune down, change modes, filters..etc.. all up to your imagination depending on the software and your needs. > Jer > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Jerry Moore > Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 5:05 PM > To: John; n5ge at n5ge.com > Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products > > Adding $100 or more to add a touchscreen ui to a radio provides very little value in my view, is silly. The radio cost to value ratio is very low (meaning the value is high). The only exception I can see would be integrating the P3 as an option (hopefully enhancing with a micro computer/ssd for logging, digital, extended macros...etc, basically what I'm doing now with a raspberry pi). > > So that is if the cost is comparable to getting the P3. > > Without the features of the P3 integrated; who changes settings so often that the included programmable macro buttons aren't enough? > > On June 5, 2016 4:35:26 PM EDT, John wrote: > Ha, Elecraft needs to progress at some stage, or get left behind. > > Touch screen UI is and has been extensively used - 3 billion touch screen smart phones out there, 1.2 billion touch screen tablets. I can see you all reaching for your keyboards to protest that phones and tablets are not the same thing. Well, touch screen UI have also moved over to commercial products, the military and airline pilots also use touch screen UI communication devices. If they are good enough to be used on commercial aircraft and in military applications, then it sure is good enough for ham radio. > Touch screen UI panels having become so prolific, that they have dropped the cost enormously, resolution is picture sharp and reliability is extremely good. > Touch screens have huge potential, and almost unlimited versatility. If you need more knobs or buttons on your rig, due to new features having been added??no problem with a touch screen. > Just a firmware update to add a knob, button, slider or meter onto the screen. > The problem with conventional rigs, is you run out of physical knobs and buttons when features are added to the radio. I see this in my KX3 - some knobs have three functions, and to try and remember what each knobs second or third function does, becomes difficult. > > Food for thought :-) > > 73 > John > > > > > On 5 Jun 2016, at 10:13 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE wrote: > > Don, > > I suspect that having redesigned a rig with touch screen capability the manufacturer would, in a short period of time realize the error of their ways. Hopfully they would still have enough capital to revert to the original design and fire the person responsible for the change. > > On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:37:42 -0400, you wrote: > Lynn, > > Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for blind operators. > Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios with those blind operators particularly in mind. > A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: > A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally released. > > Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more flexible than a silk-screened metal panel. > > I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's really time to lighten up, folks. > > Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the firmware grows to need them. > > On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch > > > > > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com > > > > > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n5ge at n5ge.com > > > > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jkramer at iafrica.com > > > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jermo at carolinaheli.com > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k5hm.ron at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n7rjn at nobis.net From tim at sy-edm.com Mon Jun 6 13:27:18 2016 From: tim at sy-edm.com (a45wg) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 21:27:18 +0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In case anyone else is trying to do this - this general procedure should work. I am starting off with a fairly basic Ubuntu 14 - 64 bit machine General install for Ubuntu 14 - 64 bit cd mkdir kx3 cd kx3 wget http://www.elecraft.com/software/KX3/KX3UtilityLINUX_1_14_4_11.tgz tar -zxvf KX3UtilityLINUX_1_14_4_11.tgz cd kx3util_1_14_4_11 Add some 32 bit packages sudo apt-get install lib32z1, lib32stdc++6, install libgtk:386 And now it should work ./kx3util 73s de Tim - A45WG > On 6 Jun 2016, at 18:54, Bruce Nourish wrote: > > Untar it in your hormedir, run the kx3util script? > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 7:09 AM Aaron K5ATG wrote: > >> Does anyone know of any detailed instructions on installing the KX3 Utility >> on Linux Ubuntu? >> Aaron Scott K5ATG >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to w0mbt at w0mbt.net >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to a45wg at sy-edm.com From kk5ib01 at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 13:47:55 2016 From: kk5ib01 at gmail.com (KK5IB) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 10:47:55 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day In-Reply-To: <188df573-5a60-4bb6-f21b-ff1901789af9@mebtel.net> References: <188df573-5a60-4bb6-f21b-ff1901789af9@mebtel.net> Message-ID: <1465235275969-7618580.post@n2.nabble.com> I use a solar controller made by KI0BK, especially designed not to be noisy. Good for up to 170 watt panels, cost $40 plus shipping. Just checked noise, a little noise at bottom of broadcast band with radio right on top of controller, no noise on HF with antenna right up against the controller. I have three and no problems yet. Darryl, KK5IB -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Field-Day-tp7618534p7618580.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From eric.csuf at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 14:01:33 2016 From: eric.csuf at gmail.com (EricJ) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 11:01:33 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <05de01d1c017$7de97e10$79bc7a30$@ka7ftp.com> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <39ba3fb2-a30f-1088-3338-e93e9e6c9da8@strus.co.uk> <7e31bc96-6209-9a73-0c11-af719fac77d7@socal.rr.com> <5f142db5-a2a8-10e0-7b35-439326039842@gmail.com> <05de01d1c017$7de97e10$79bc7a30$@ka7ftp.com> Message-ID: With that, the thread effectively closed for me. Nobody has said it better. Thanks, Len. Eric KE6US On 6/6/2016 10:18 AM, len at ka7ftp.com wrote: > As a developer of both hardware and software products that use touch screens > I have mixed feelings. > > My number one gripe with soft environments is the tendency to continually > modify the environment and jam more and more functionality into the same > footprint. This either needs to be done with width or depth, take your > pick. Both Apple and Windows are horrible abusers. Every new version of > their software requires users to hunt down functions that have been moved or > crammed down. Functions that were originally intuitive are now obfuscated > in the name of progress. Lack of consistency is extremely frustrating for > most users. > > Today because of the ease of soft environments it seems that companies feel > compelled to continually bring a "new look" to each software revision of > their website or product. How many of you think Yahoo scored a home run > with NEO? In my opinion NEO is an absolute disaster. But corporate egos > won't allow users out. How would you like someone mucking with your beloved > radio in the name of pretty progress. I'll take consistency over pretty and > modern every time. I'm buying a radio, I don't want an iPhone clone, or an > Icom clone, I want my KX3 to look and exactly like the KX3 I bought. I > trust the engineers at Elecraft to make acceptable and necessary upgrades > for functionality. I also trust that they are not going to ruin a great > radio in the name of glitter.. > > It has been pointed out previously in this thread that all of Elecraft's > radios can be easily connected to a computer for computer control. Not > everything in the world needs to be integrated, and often doing so creates > compromises that are much more difficult to live with and limit the lifetime > of a product. I'm tickled pink with my Elecraft products and don't feel the > need for them to emulate anyone else to keep me as a customer! We shouldn't > be compelled to buy a radio every two years like we do with cell phones. My > expectation is to buy a product that will function for many years, and > possibly a decade or more. I would rather have multiple Elecraft products > rather than one that pretends to be all things to all people. > > 73 > > len > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric_csuf at hotmail.com > > From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Mon Jun 6 14:09:00 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (wickedbeernut) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 11:09:00 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] External Touch Screen In-Reply-To: References: <027001d1bfe7$51c01b30$f5405190$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1465236540265-7618582.post@n2.nabble.com> > Use two serial ports on the Pi. One talks to the radio, one talks to the PC. That's exactly what I do with my Arduino, http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/SX3%20Prototype%20Hardware%201.jpg http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/SX3%20Prototype%20Hardware%202.jpg Here's the actual firmware, #define PX3_RX_PIN 7 #define PX3_TX_PIN 5 #define PC Serial SoftwareSerial PX3(PX3_RX_PIN, PX3_TX_PIN); void loop() { while (PC.available()) PX3.write(PC.read()); Usb.Task(); // process keyboard, mouse, thumb drive and knob while (PX3.available()) PC.write(PX3.read()); } I remove my microcontroller from the PC - PX3 path in downloading new firmware to the PX3 and/or KX3 in order to ensure the most reliable connection. Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/External-Touch-Screen-tp7618547p7618582.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From nq5t at tx.rr.com Mon Jun 6 14:12:15 2016 From: nq5t at tx.rr.com (GRANT YOUNGMAN) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 13:12:15 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day In-Reply-To: <1465235275969-7618580.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <188df573-5a60-4bb6-f21b-ff1901789af9@mebtel.net> <1465235275969-7618580.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <6BAA4D78-627D-4F1C-9348-3032755C76C4@tx.rr.com> The Genasun GV-5 solar charge controller with MPPT is reputed to be noise-free. Grant NQ5T K3 #2091, KX3 #8342 > On Jun 6, 2016, at 12:47 PM, KK5IB wrote: > > I use a solar controller made by KI0BK, especially designed not to be noisy. > Good for up to 170 watt panels, cost $40 plus shipping. Just checked noise, > a little noise at bottom of broadcast band with radio right on top of > controller, no noise on HF with antenna right up against the controller. I > have three and no problems yet. > Darryl, KK5IB From xdavid at cis-broadband.com Mon Jun 6 14:22:12 2016 From: xdavid at cis-broadband.com (David Gilbert) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 11:22:12 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Hypothetical New Product In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8e967725-a1c0-d5fa-dc51-58f9b4a5d9ad@cis-broadband.com> Either you tend to make some really basic QSOs with little QRM and lots of S/N, or you have an unrealistic perception of CW decoding and pattern recognition. I think you'd end up with a high percentage of busted log entries. Besides, how much sense does it make to invest all that engineering to autolog CW when it does nothing for SSB? I'm primarily a CW op myself, but for portable operation if the rig has SSB capabilities I'm likely to want to use it ... meaning I'd still need to rely on some other mechanism for logging. Dave AB7E On 6/5/2016 6:39 PM, kevinr at coho.net wrote: > Since its inception Elecraft has been on a quest. The quest for the > most user friendly, convenient, trail radio. They have explored a > variety of architectures along the way with a consistently enjoyable > user interface. > > They have eliminated almost all of the external connections to a > transceiver: the paddle is attached, the battery is inside, and the > antenna can be as simple as a BNC connected whip. The last external > link needs to be severed: the logging system. > > Logging systems can be as simple as a 3x5 card and a stubby, golf > pencil to a whiz bang laptop to voice recorder to a smart phone. But > each of them requires me to input the data in some form. Why? Why do I > need to send my input to a chunk of memory when the transceiver > already has the provision for text recognition? > > As I send my information in response to the contact's information why > can't the Elecraft CW decode algorithm provide that data in a stream > to be parsed? Pattern recognition can be used to scan the raw text > stream and find: a call sign, RST, S/P/C, and a serial number. Once > each of these is parsed they can be tossed into a chunk of spare > memory for the on board log along with a time stamp. > > I think a few lines of screen real estate, a single (tap) button, and > a largish (?) chunk of memory would allow for within the rig logging. > Bring the rig home, hook up a USB cable, and log the rig's data to > your logging database. > > If the rig's CPU is stressed by this an addon board could be created > with additional processing power. Macros can be created for a variety > of contest formats and allow for the recognition of DX call signs as > well as the ones for North America. > > My first rev would be to allow the user to hand log by hitting the > log/no log tap button for the appropriate mode and allow user entry > (and edit) via the paddles. As I mentioned previously a few lines of > screen real estate and the necessary chunk of memory are required for > this, no extra processor cycles simply a few more subroutines. > > The second rev requires a little bit of artificial intelligence (aka > some form of regular pattern recognition). A daughterboard would take > the raw text stream as input and parse out the logging data as it is > trained. As long as the Elecraft CW decode subroutine can provide > decent text the 'recognizer' AI can start logging contacts. > > I don't think the second rev is impossible or even all that > difficult. Maybe by 2018?? > > 73, > Kevin. KD5ONS > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to xdavid at cis-broadband.com > From fritzejohn at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 14:27:07 2016 From: fritzejohn at gmail.com (John Fritze) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 14:27:07 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Mic bias and mic button selection? Message-ID: Can anyone tell me if the Mic Button and Mic Bias are implemented in the KX2? If it is don't you adjust it with the VFO? -- John Fritze Jr K2QY k2qy at arrl.net ACACES president 2014 ARES ENY DEC Northern District Hudson Div. Asst. Director Twitter: @k2qy 401 261 4996 (cell) From bob.novas at verizon.net Mon Jun 6 14:27:23 2016 From: bob.novas at verizon.net (Bob Novas) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 14:27:23 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Ham Radio, now what Message-ID: <019f01d1c021$120d72a0$362857e0$@verizon.net> Ward Silver gives what is I think a great Ham Radio, where goest thou ("Ham Radio, now what") a version of which is available at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUTndhyh79U that is somewhat applicable to this group. Hopefully not too far off topic. Bob - W3DK From donwilh at embarqmail.com Mon Jun 6 14:31:43 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 14:31:43 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Broken VFO B Encoder-menu access? In-Reply-To: <1465222566877-7618561.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1465222566877-7618561.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Chris, Yes, you can by creating Macros or by writing software to issue commands that will get you into the menu and change it. The K3/KX3 Programmers Reference can tell you how to do it. I do not recall that anyone has written software to do all of that, but there are some which do bits and pieces of it. If you want to develop your own software, I suggest that there may be several others who would like to take advantage of it - but it may take you longer than your wait for the new encoder. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/6/2016 10:16 AM, OE5CSP-Chris wrote: > I hardly dare to ask this question, but is there a way to access into the > menu and change settings which is normally done by using VFO B. It will take > 2-3 weeks until I get a replacement part. > 73,Chris-OE5CSP > From donwilh at embarqmail.com Mon Jun 6 14:42:38 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 14:42:38 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Mic bias and mic button selection? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <678bbce9-2019-84c0-63cd-cca1ed7ce690@embarqmail.com> John, Yes, see page 8 of the manual. See pages 40 through 51 for the various menu entries and how to access/change them. A perusal of the menu functions will provide you with the answers to many questions about how the rig can be configured for your use. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/6/2016 2:27 PM, John Fritze wrote: > Can anyone tell me if the Mic Button and Mic Bias are implemented in the > KX2? If it is don't you adjust it with the VFO? > From vk1zzgary at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 14:46:51 2016 From: vk1zzgary at gmail.com (Gary) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 04:46:51 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <39ba3fb2-a30f-1088-3338-e93e9e6c9da8@strus.co.uk> <7e31bc96-6209-9a73-0c11-af719fac77d7@socal.rr.com> <5f142db5-a2a8-10e0-7b35-439326039842@gmail.com> <05de01d1c017$7de97e10$79bc7a30$@ka7ftp.com> Message-ID: <5755c522.d664620a.a57de.4976@mx.google.com> What he said ? Gary -----Original Message----- From: "EricJ" Sent: ?7/?06/?2016 4:03 AM To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products With that, the thread effectively closed for me. Nobody has said it better. Thanks, Len. Eric KE6US On 6/6/2016 10:18 AM, len at ka7ftp.com wrote: > As a developer of both hardware and software products that use touch screens > I have mixed feelings. > > My number one gripe with soft environments is the tendency to continually > modify the environment and jam more and more functionality into the same > footprint. This either needs to be done with width or depth, take your > pick. Both Apple and Windows are horrible abusers. Every new version of > their software requires users to hunt down functions that have been moved or > crammed down. Functions that were originally intuitive are now obfuscated > in the name of progress. Lack of consistency is extremely frustrating for > most users. > > Today because of the ease of soft environments it seems that companies feel > compelled to continually bring a "new look" to each software revision of > their website or product. How many of you think Yahoo scored a home run > with NEO? In my opinion NEO is an absolute disaster. But corporate egos > won't allow users out. How would you like someone mucking with your beloved > radio in the name of pretty progress. I'll take consistency over pretty and > modern every time. I'm buying a radio, I don't want an iPhone clone, or an > Icom clone, I want my KX3 to look and exactly like the KX3 I bought. I > trust the engineers at Elecraft to make acceptable and necessary upgrades > for functionality. I also trust that they are not going to ruin a great > radio in the name of glitter.. > > It has been pointed out previously in this thread that all of Elecraft's > radios can be easily connected to a computer for computer control. Not > everything in the world needs to be integrated, and often doing so creates > compromises that are much more difficult to live with and limit the lifetime > of a product. I'm tickled pink with my Elecraft products and don't feel the > need for them to emulate anyone else to keep me as a customer! We shouldn't > be compelled to buy a radio every two years like we do with cell phones. My > expectation is to buy a product that will function for many years, and > possibly a decade or more. I would rather have multiple Elecraft products > rather than one that pretends to be all things to all people. > > 73 > > len > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric_csuf at hotmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vk1zzgary at gmail.com From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Mon Jun 6 14:58:25 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (wickedbeernut) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 11:58:25 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] External Touch Screen In-Reply-To: <1465236540265-7618582.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <027001d1bfe7$51c01b30$f5405190$@verizon.net> <1465236540265-7618582.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1465239505683-7618590.post@n2.nabble.com> For those experimenting with a Raspberry Pi, I assume you've seen the Pi panadapter variants, http://twitter.com/giorgiofox/status/694969541521207296 Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/External-Touch-Screen-tp7618547p7618590.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From kk5ib01 at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 15:01:13 2016 From: kk5ib01 at gmail.com (KK5IB) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 12:01:13 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day In-Reply-To: <6BAA4D78-627D-4F1C-9348-3032755C76C4@tx.rr.com> References: <188df573-5a60-4bb6-f21b-ff1901789af9@mebtel.net> <1465235275969-7618580.post@n2.nabble.com> <6BAA4D78-627D-4F1C-9348-3032755C76C4@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: Hate to say it, but nearly twice the price and less than half the capacity, probably a better quality, but I run 100 watt panels, wouldn't work for me. Darryl, KK5IB On 6/6/16, Grant Youngman [via Elecraft] wrote: > > > The Genasun GV-5 solar charge controller with MPPT is reputed to be > noise-free. > > Grant NQ5T > K3 #2091, KX3 #8342 > > > > >> On Jun 6, 2016, at 12:47 PM, KK5IB wrote: >> >> I use a solar controller made by KI0BK, especially designed not to be >> noisy. >> Good for up to 170 watt panels, cost $40 plus shipping. Just checked >> noise, >> a little noise at bottom of broadcast band with radio right on top of >> controller, no noise on HF with antenna right up against the controller. >> I >> have three and no problems yet. >> Darryl, KK5IB > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to lists+1215531472858-365791 at n2.nabble.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Field-Day-tp7618534p7618583.html > > To unsubscribe from Field Day, visit > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&node=7618534&code=a2s1aWIwMUBnbWFpbC5jb218NzYxODUzNHwtODkxNjk4NzI0 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Field-Day-tp7618534p7618591.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From w0mbt at w0mbt.net Mon Jun 6 15:26:47 2016 From: w0mbt at w0mbt.net (Bruce Nourish) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 19:26:47 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100 RS232 question / feature request Message-ID: Hi Elecraft folks, As I understand it, to remote-mount a KXPA100, while maintaining the ability for serial port (PC) control, one has to run three longish wires: RF, CAT-5 control, and a shielded audio cable (ab)used to return the serial port to the PC. Is that correct? If so, would it be possible for a future revision of the KXPA100 to use one of the pairs in the control cable to pass that signal back to the KXPACBL adapter, have an additional port there to plug the KXUSB into? At least one pair on the cable, analog ALC, looks to be unused when using a KXPACBL. This would reduce the number of long table runs from three to two, which I'd appreciate. Thanks! Bruce From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Mon Jun 6 15:38:04 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 11:38:04 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] New products Message-ID: <201606061938.u56Jc4Xc011811@mail42c28.carrierzone.com> Tried to resist commenting, but Len's stood out Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 11:18:49 -0600 From: To: Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products Message-ID: <05de01d1c017$7de97e10$79bc7a30$@ka7ftp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" As a developer of both hardware and software products that use touch screens I have mixed feelings. My number one gripe with soft environments is the tendency to continually modify the environment and jam more and more functionality into the same footprint. This either needs to be done with width or depth, take your pick. Both Apple and Windows are horrible abusers. Every new version of their software requires users to hunt down functions that have been moved or crammed down. Functions that were originally intuitive are now obfuscated in the name of progress. Lack of consistency is extremely frustrating for most users. =Absolutely agree - why I am keeping my XP32-SP3 until it fails. I will soon go off-line so security will not be any issue unless I load a file via flash-drive (which I will do occasionally). Vista-win8 so frustrating I just didn't use that computer for much of anything. I will use win10 (made better than win8 by customer revolt) for internet and e-mail (primarily). =But my ham applications stay on XP32 where they work; no driver upgrades or hdwr upgrades. For K3/KX3 firmware upgrades I will just plug the USB cable into the win10, temporarily. Today because of the ease of soft environments it seems that companies feel compelled to continually bring a "new look" to each software revision of their website or product. How many of you think Yahoo scored a home run with NEO? In my opinion NEO is an absolute disaster. But corporate egos won't allow users out. How would you like someone mucking with your beloved radio in the name of pretty progress. I'll take consistency over pretty and modern every time. I'm buying a radio, I don't want an iPhone clone, or an Icom clone, I want my KX3 to look and exactly like the KX3 I bought. I trust the engineers at Elecraft to make acceptable and necessary upgrades for functionality. I also trust that they are not going to ruin a great radio in the name of glitter.. =I chose the K3 because it is what I wanted: a good combo of traditional user interface with firmware upgradability. I could have chosen a Flex-5000 at that point in time. I run sw on my computer to control the K3 for the modes that need a more graphical display. Normal voice modes work fine with knobs. CW too. It has been pointed out previously in this thread that all of Elecraft's radios can be easily connected to a computer for computer control. Not everything in the world needs to be integrated, and often doing so creates compromises that are much more difficult to live with and limit the lifetime of a product. I'm tickled pink with my Elecraft products and don't feel the need for them to emulate anyone else to keep me as a customer! We shouldn't be compelled to buy a radio every two years like we do with cell phones. My expectation is to buy a product that will function for many years, and possibly a decade or more. I would rather have multiple Elecraft products rather than one that pretends to be all things to all people. =every two years? More like every two months. My wife still uses her flip-phone for phone calls; has ipad for the other stuff, and a laptop, and a couple kindles; and another ipad which partially failed - enough! =We have land-line telephone which includes our DSL (no fiber up here as yet). I have no cell. MY younger sister and her husband switched to only having cell; not sure how they get internet in Ohio? Maybe only from their phones? =progress is nice but not just for the reason for selling stuff. 73 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From k0gfy at hushmail.com Mon Jun 6 16:40:00 2016 From: k0gfy at hushmail.com (Hunter Ellington) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 14:40:00 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] General Coverage Module Message-ID: <20160606204001.28714A0135@smtp.hushmail.com> I have the General Coverage Module in my K3, serial number 6969. Recently, whenever I listen to the broadcast band, the signals will drop out, or significantly down and an occasion audio will distort. I do not notice this in any other mode, or on the ham bands. Any thoughts? Hunter Ellington, K0GFY Sent using Hushmail From brian at kf6c.com Mon Jun 6 16:41:24 2016 From: brian at kf6c.com (Brian D. Comer) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 13:41:24 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RE Bonding KX3/PX3/KXPA100 - any examples? Message-ID: <036b01d1c033$ca90d710$5fb28530$@com> I am not close to my set up now so I cannot send a picture. >That first picture reflects one thing I hate about my KX3 and PX3 - when you have >everything hooked up, it is one mass of wires everywhere. >The KX3 and PX3 is a fantastic pair in every other way, but dang, I can?t handle >the crows nest that it creates. I have laced all the cables that I use in my KX3, PX3 and remote KPA100 (mounted in rear of RV)into a single cable form. It is now much easier to setup without a bundle of disorganized cables. If there is interest I can take some pictures of the bundle and even the fairly complex overall setup in the RV that includes a built in SDR that also uses the kPA100. This setup has no special bonding has no issues. 73 Brian KF6C. From raysills3 at verizon.net Mon Jun 6 17:02:02 2016 From: raysills3 at verizon.net (Ray Sills) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 17:02:02 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day In-Reply-To: References: <188df573-5a60-4bb6-f21b-ff1901789af9@mebtel.net> <1465235275969-7618580.post@n2.nabble.com> <6BAA4D78-627D-4F1C-9348-3032755C76C4@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <224E8D5F-C2E7-41B8-8799-4361E821A895@verizon.net> Genasun makes 10 A (and higher current) controllers. They are also available for different battery chemistries? not just lead-acid. They ain?t cheap, but they have a very good warranty, and are RF quiet. If you were using the controller for continuous use, not just field day, the improvement in efficiency would eventually pay for the controller, based on the amount of recovered power. 73 de Ray K2ULR KX3 #211 > On Jun 6, 2016, at 3:01 PM, KK5IB wrote: > > Hate to say it, but nearly twice the price and less than half the > capacity, probably a better quality, but I run 100 watt panels, > wouldn't work for me. > Darryl, KK5IB > > On 6/6/16, Grant Youngman [via Elecraft] > wrote: >> >> >> The Genasun GV-5 solar charge controller with MPPT is reputed to be >> noise-free. >> >> Grant NQ5T >> K3 #2091, KX3 #8342 From joel.b.black at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 17:04:38 2016 From: joel.b.black at gmail.com (Joel Black) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 16:04:38 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RE Bonding KX3/PX3/KXPA100 - any examples? In-Reply-To: <036b01d1c033$ca90d710$5fb28530$@com> References: <036b01d1c033$ca90d710$5fb28530$@com> Message-ID: Brian, I'd like to see it. Thanks. 73, Joel - W4JBB On Monday, June 6, 2016, Brian D. Comer wrote: > I am not close to my set up now so I cannot send a picture. > > > > >That first picture reflects one thing I hate about my KX3 and PX3 - when > you have > > >everything hooked up, it is one mass of wires everywhere. > > >The KX3 and PX3 is a fantastic pair in every other way, but dang, I can?t > handle > > >the crows nest that it creates. > > > > I have laced all the cables that I use in my KX3, PX3 and remote KPA100 > (mounted in rear of RV)into a single cable form. It is now much easier to > setup without a bundle of disorganized cables. > > > > If there is interest I can take some pictures of the bundle and even the > fairly complex overall setup in the RV that includes a built in SDR that > also uses the kPA100. > > > > This setup has no special bonding has no issues. > > > > 73 Brian KF6C. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to joel.b.black at gmail.com > From kk5ib01 at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 17:51:10 2016 From: kk5ib01 at gmail.com (KK5IB) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 14:51:10 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day In-Reply-To: <224E8D5F-C2E7-41B8-8799-4361E821A895@verizon.net> References: <188df573-5a60-4bb6-f21b-ff1901789af9@mebtel.net> <1465235275969-7618580.post@n2.nabble.com> <6BAA4D78-627D-4F1C-9348-3032755C76C4@tx.rr.com> <224E8D5F-C2E7-41B8-8799-4361E821A895@verizon.net> Message-ID: Don't want to get in an argument, just know that several of the cheaper controllers are noisy and that there are choices for us that are useful. Darryl, KK5IB On 6/6/16, Ray Sills-2 [via Elecraft] wrote: > > > Genasun makes 10 A (and higher current) controllers. They are also > available for different battery chemistries? not just lead-acid. They ain?t > cheap, but they have a very good warranty, and are RF quiet. If you were > using the controller for continuous use, not just field day, the improvement > in efficiency would eventually pay for the controller, based on the amount > of recovered power. > > 73 de Ray > K2ULR > KX3 #211 > >> On Jun 6, 2016, at 3:01 PM, KK5IB wrote: >> >> Hate to say it, but nearly twice the price and less than half the >> capacity, probably a better quality, but I run 100 watt panels, >> wouldn't work for me. >> Darryl, KK5IB >> >> On 6/6/16, Grant Youngman [via Elecraft] >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> The Genasun GV-5 solar charge controller with MPPT is reputed to be >>> noise-free. >>> >>> Grant NQ5T >>> K3 #2091, KX3 #8342 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to lists+1215531472858-365791 at n2.nabble.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Field-Day-tp7618534p7618596.html > > To unsubscribe from Field Day, visit > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&node=7618534&code=a2s1aWIwMUBnbWFpbC5jb218NzYxODUzNHwtODkxNjk4NzI0 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Field-Day-tp7618534p7618598.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From kk5f at earthlink.net Mon Jun 6 17:53:20 2016 From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 16:53:20 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Elecraft] General Coverage Module - List Courtesy Message-ID: <18378020.1465250000616.JavaMail.wam@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > I have the General Coverage Module in my K3, serial number 6969... Any thoughts? Any??? Any at all??? Yes. I'm thinking: "It would be useful and courteous if postings to this list indicated ***in the SUBJECT line*** to what Elecraft product the posting applies!" Mike / KK5F From w7ox at socal.rr.com Mon Jun 6 18:10:37 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 15:10:37 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] General Coverage Module (K3) In-Reply-To: <20160606204001.28714A0135@smtp.hushmail.com> References: <20160606204001.28714A0135@smtp.hushmail.com> Message-ID: Hunter, My instinct would be to remove and re-seat that board. That could solve the problem. A defect in the board is unlikely. All this assumes you have the correct mode in your K3 (e.g., not listening to BC band in CW mode). 73, Phil W7OX On 6/6/16 1:40 PM, Hunter Ellington wrote: > I have the General Coverage Module in my K3, serial number 6969. Recently, whenever I listen to the broadcast band, the signals will drop out, or significantly down and an occasion audio will distort. I do not notice this in any other mode, or on the ham bands. Any thoughts? > > > > Hunter Ellington, K0GFY > > Sent using Hushmail > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w7ox at socal.rr.com > From w0fm at swbell.net Mon Jun 6 18:12:05 2016 From: w0fm at swbell.net (Terry Schieler) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 17:12:05 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: Re: New products In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003c01d1c040$76d86c70$64894550$@swbell.net> Apparently so, Bob. Hard to believe this many Elecrafters were absent when we beat this "Touch Screen" dead horse to death three weeks ago. ;o) Terry, W0FM -----Original Message----- From: riese-k3djc at juno.com [mailto:riese-k3djc at juno.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 8:08 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: Re: New products > this is going to go on for a while isnt it Bob K3DJC I have a new car with Touchscreen controls. When the engine is off, I see all the finger marks. Ugh. No touchscreen for me. 73, Ron, K5HM k5hm.ron at gmail.com www.qrz.com/db/k5hm Excelsior! -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jerry More Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 9:06 PM To: John ; n5ge at n5ge.com Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products Oh,, and I wanted to point out that if you are using a computer with CAT then most software packages allow you to operate with keyboard shortcuts to QSY, tune up, tune down, change modes, filters..etc.. all up to your imagination depending on the software and your needs. Jer Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Jerry Moore Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 5:05 PM To: John; n5ge at n5ge.com Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products Adding $100 or more to add a touchscreen ui to a radio provides very little value in my view, is silly. The radio cost to value ratio is very low (meaning the value is high). The only exception I can see would be integrating the P3 as an option (hopefully enhancing with a micro computer/ssd for logging, digital, extended macros...etc, basically what I'm doing now with a raspberry pi). So that is if the cost is comparable to getting the P3. Without the features of the P3 integrated; who changes settings so often that the included programmable macro buttons aren't enough? On June 5, 2016 4:35:26 PM EDT, John wrote: Ha, Elecraft needs to progress at some stage, or get left behind. Touch screen UI is and has been extensively used - 3 billion touch screen smart phones out there, 1.2 billion touch screen tablets. I can see you all reaching for your keyboards to protest that phones and tablets are not the same thing. Well, touch screen UI have also moved over to commercial products, the military and airline pilots also use touch screen UI communication devices. If they are good enough to be used on commercial aircraft and in military applications, then it sure is good enough for ham radio. Touch screen UI panels having become so prolific, that they have dropped the cost enormously, resolution is picture sharp and reliability is extremely good. Touch screens have huge potential, and almost unlimited versatility. If you need more knobs or buttons on your rig, due to new features having been added no problem with a touch screen. Just a firmware update to add a knob, button, slider or meter onto the screen. The problem with conventional rigs, is you run out of physical knobs and buttons when features are added to the radio. I see this in my KX3 - some knobs have three functions, and to try and remember what each knobs second or third function does, becomes difficult. Food for thought :-) 73 John On 5 Jun 2016, at 10:13 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE wrote: Don, I suspect that having redesigned a rig with touch screen capability the manufacturer would, in a short period of time realize the error of their ways. Hopfully they would still have enough capital to revert to the original design and fire the person responsible for the change. On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:37:42 -0400, you wrote: Lynn, Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for blind operators. Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios with those blind operators particularly in mind. A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally released. Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more flexible than a silk-screened metal panel. I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's really time to lighten up, folks. Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the firmware grows to need them. On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n5ge at n5ge.com Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jkramer at iafrica.com Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jermo at carolinaheli.com -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k5hm.ron at gmail.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to riese-k3djc at juno.com From w7ox at socal.rr.com Mon Jun 6 18:19:14 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 15:19:14 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: Re: New products In-Reply-To: <003c01d1c040$76d86c70$64894550$@swbell.net> References: <003c01d1c040$76d86c70$64894550$@swbell.net> Message-ID: <4405b41f-d8ed-58f1-5ae3-1b4f5b808840@socal.rr.com> Well-known phenomenon, Terry: Reincarnation of The Dead Horse :-) Phil W7OX On 6/6/16 3:12 PM, Terry Schieler wrote: > Apparently so, Bob. Hard to believe this many Elecrafters were absent when we beat this "Touch Screen" dead horse to death three weeks ago. ;o) > > Terry, W0FM > > > -----Original Message----- > From: riese-k3djc at juno.com [mailto:riese-k3djc at juno.com] > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 8:08 AM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: Re: New products > > > this is going to go on for a while isnt it > > Bob K3DJC > > > > I have a new car with Touchscreen controls. When the engine is off, I see all the finger marks. Ugh. No touchscreen for me. > > 73, > Ron, K5HM > k5hm.ron at gmail.com > www.qrz.com/db/k5hm > > Excelsior! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jerry More > Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 9:06 PM > To: John ; n5ge at n5ge.com > Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products > > Oh,, and I wanted to point out that if you are using a computer with CAT then most software packages allow you to operate with keyboard shortcuts to QSY, tune up, tune down, change modes, filters..etc.. all up to your imagination depending on the software and your needs. > Jer > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Jerry Moore > Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 5:05 PM > To: John; n5ge at n5ge.com > Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products > > Adding $100 or more to add a touchscreen ui to a radio provides very little value in my view, is silly. The radio cost to value ratio is very low (meaning the value is high). The only exception I can see would be integrating the P3 as an option (hopefully enhancing with a micro computer/ssd for logging, digital, extended macros...etc, basically what I'm doing now with a raspberry pi). > > So that is if the cost is comparable to getting the P3. > > Without the features of the P3 integrated; who changes settings so often that the included programmable macro buttons aren't enough? > > On June 5, 2016 4:35:26 PM EDT, John wrote: > Ha, Elecraft needs to progress at some stage, or get left behind. > > Touch screen UI is and has been extensively used - 3 billion touch screen smart phones out there, 1.2 billion touch screen tablets. I can see you all reaching for your keyboards to protest that phones and tablets are not the same thing. Well, touch screen UI have also moved over to commercial products, the military and airline pilots also use touch screen UI communication devices. If they are good enough to be used on commercial aircraft and in military applications, then it sure is good enough for ham radio. > Touch screen UI panels having become so prolific, that they have dropped the cost enormously, resolution is picture sharp and reliability is extremely good. > Touch screens have huge potential, and almost unlimited versatility. If you need more knobs or buttons on your rig, due to new features having been added no problem with a touch screen. > Just a firmware update to add a knob, button, slider or meter onto the screen. > The problem with conventional rigs, is you run out of physical knobs and buttons when features are added to the radio. I see this in my KX3 - some knobs have three functions, and to try and remember what each knobs second or third function does, becomes difficult. > > Food for thought :-) > > 73 > John > > > > > On 5 Jun 2016, at 10:13 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE > wrote: > > Don, > > I suspect that having redesigned a rig with touch screen capability the manufacturer would, in a short period of time realize the error of their ways. Hopfully they would still have enough capital to revert to the original design and fire the person responsible for the change. > > On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:37:42 -0400, you wrote: > Lynn, > > Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for blind operators. > Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios with those blind operators particularly in mind. > A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: > A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally released. > > Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more flexible than a silk-screened metal panel. > > I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's really time to lighten up, folks. > > Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the firmware grows to need them. > > On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch From k2av.guy at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 18:29:37 2016 From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 18:29:37 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Broken VFO B Encoder-menu access? In-Reply-To: <1465222566877-7618561.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1465222566877-7618561.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Many of the menu functions have program commands which address them, which can easily be typed into the command tester in the K3 Utility. Save the ones that you get working and need repeatedly in the Macro switches and assign them to K3 buttons. Once you get acquainted with that you might even far prefer the macro commands than all the dial twisting when everything is working. 73, Guy K2AV On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 10:16 AM, OE5CSP-Chris wrote: > I hardly dare to ask this question, but is there a way to access into the > menu and change settings which is normally done by using VFO B. It will > take > 2-3 weeks until I get a replacement part. > 73,Chris-OE5CSP > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Broken-VFO-B-Encoder-menu-access-tp7618561.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2av.guy at gmail.com > From riese-k3djc at juno.com Mon Jun 6 18:58:47 2016 From: riese-k3djc at juno.com (riese-k3djc at juno.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 18:58:47 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: Re: New products Message-ID: I want to talk about the best mike to use wit my K3 Bob K3DJC n Mon, 6 Jun 2016 17:12:05 -0500 "Terry Schieler" writes: > Apparently so, Bob. Hard to believe this many Elecrafters were > absent when we beat this "Touch Screen" dead horse to death three > weeks ago. ;o) > > Terry, W0FM > > > -----Original Message----- > From: riese-k3djc at juno.com [mailto:riese-k3djc at juno.com] > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 8:08 AM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: Re: New products > > > > > this is going to go on for a while isnt it > > Bob K3DJC > > > > I have a new car with Touchscreen controls. When the engine is off, > I see all the finger marks. Ugh. No touchscreen for me. > > 73, > Ron, K5HM > k5hm.ron at gmail.com > www.qrz.com/db/k5hm > > Excelsior! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf > Of Jerry More > Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 9:06 PM > To: John ; n5ge at n5ge.com > Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products > > Oh,, and I wanted to point out that if you are using a computer with > CAT then most software packages allow you to operate with keyboard > shortcuts to QSY, tune up, tune down, change modes, filters..etc.. > all up to your imagination depending on the software and your > needs. > Jer > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Jerry Moore > Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 5:05 PM > To: John; n5ge at n5ge.com > Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products > > Adding $100 or more to add a touchscreen ui to a radio provides very > little value in my view, is silly. The radio cost to value ratio is > very low (meaning the value is high). The only exception I can see > would be integrating the P3 as an option (hopefully enhancing with a > micro computer/ssd for logging, digital, extended macros...etc, > basically what I'm doing now with a raspberry pi). > > So that is if the cost is comparable to getting the P3. > > Without the features of the P3 integrated; who changes settings so > often that the included programmable macro buttons aren't enough? > > On June 5, 2016 4:35:26 PM EDT, John wrote: > Ha, Elecraft needs to progress at some stage, or get left behind. > > Touch screen UI is and has been extensively used - 3 billion touch > screen smart phones out there, 1.2 billion touch screen tablets. I > can see you all reaching for your keyboards to protest that phones > and tablets are not the same thing. Well, touch screen UI have also > moved over to commercial products, the military and airline pilots > also use touch screen UI communication devices. If they are good > enough to be used on commercial aircraft and in military > applications, then it sure is good enough for ham radio. > Touch screen UI panels having become so prolific, that they have > dropped the cost enormously, resolution is picture sharp and > reliability is extremely good. > Touch screens have huge potential, and almost unlimited versatility. > If you need more knobs or buttons on your rig, due to new features > having been added no problem with a touch screen. > Just a firmware update to add a knob, button, slider or meter onto > the screen. > The problem with conventional rigs, is you run out of physical knobs > and buttons when features are added to the radio. I see this in my > KX3 - some knobs have three functions, and to try and remember what > each knobs second or third function does, becomes difficult. > > Food for thought :-) > > 73 > John > > > > > On 5 Jun 2016, at 10:13 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE > > wrote: > > Don, > > I suspect that having redesigned a rig with touch screen capability > the manufacturer would, in a short period of time realize the error > of their ways. Hopfully they would still have enough capital to > revert to the original design and fire the person responsible for > the change. > > On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:37:42 -0400, you wrote: > Lynn, > > Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for > blind operators. > Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their > radios with those blind operators particularly in mind. > A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: > A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future > upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things > on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally > released. > > Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more > flexible than a silk-screened metal panel. > > I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's > really time to lighten up, folks. > > Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of > "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the > firmware grows to need them. > > On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the > touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch > > > > > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this > email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > donwilh at embarqmail.com > > > > > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this > email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > n5ge at n5ge.com > > > > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jkramer at iafrica.com > > > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jermo at carolinaheli.com > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my > brevity. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k5hm.ron at gmail.com > > > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to riese-k3djc at juno.com > > > > From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Mon Jun 6 19:08:43 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 16:08:43 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <05de01d1c017$7de97e10$79bc7a30$@ka7ftp.com> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <39ba3fb2-a30f-1088-3338-e93e9e6c9da8@strus.co.uk> <7e31bc96-6209-9a73-0c11-af719fac77d7@socal.rr.com> <5f142db5-a2a8-10e0-7b35-439326039842@gmail.com> <05de01d1c017$7de97e10$79bc7a30$@ka7ftp.com> Message-ID: <126563b1-e921-b398-9f6c-57363cd90b94@triconet.org> I still use IOS5 on my iPhone 4S;-) On 6/6/2016 10:18 AM, len at ka7ftp.com wrote: > As a developer of both hardware and software products that use touch screens > I have mixed feelings. > > My number one gripe with soft environments is the tendency to continually > modify the environment and jam more and more functionality into the same > footprint. This either needs to be done with width or depth, take your > pick. Both Apple and Windows are horrible abusers. Every new version of > their software requires users to hunt down functions that have been moved or > crammed down. Functions that were originally intuitive are now obfuscated > in the name of progress. Lack of consistency is extremely frustrating for > most users. From w7ox at socal.rr.com Mon Jun 6 19:09:22 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 16:09:22 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Best Mic for K3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <70916e19-2b94-05e4-5555-af440aba056f@socal.rr.com> Well, tell us more, Bob: Hand mic or desk mic or boom mic or headphone-mic combo? Lots of options out there! I use a Kenwood hand mic which came with an old Kenwood HF rig; I believe it's an MC-43, and it works well. Elecraft sells mics, too. 73, Phil W7OX On 6/6/16 3:58 PM, riese-k3djc at juno.com wrote: > I want to talk about the best mike to use with my K3 > > Bob K3DJC From nz8j at woh.rr.com Mon Jun 6 19:46:25 2016 From: nz8j at woh.rr.com (nz8j) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 19:46:25 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Still looking for a KX3/KX2 Message-ID: If you have one for sale please send details in first email to include options, serial number and price shipped to zip 45324. Paypal preferred. Ready to buy for the right one.ThanksTimNZ8J Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone From k6dgw at foothill.net Mon Jun 6 19:53:36 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 16:53:36 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3/PX3] Bonding In-Reply-To: <37F563C6-7ADD-4CD6-BBEC-0394A563769F@gmail.com> References: <37F563C6-7ADD-4CD6-BBEC-0394A563769F@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 6/5/2016 5:03 AM, Joel Black wrote: > I?m pretty sure I can bond the KX3, PX3, and MFJ-4125 but I don?t > have a *clue* how to bond the iMac. It?s a late 2012 27? iMac. It?s > an all-in-one with *no* external screws. It?s the model with the > ?pregnant? bulge in the back. However, if it means I have to go to a > Windows computer, I?ll live with the noise or build a Hackintosh. I > also use this computer for other things - editing video, etc. No comment on the Hackintosh. :-) Finding the chassis in the "Golden Days of Ham Radio" was a trivial exercise, and all the "grounds" went to the chassis, which was universally conductive ... and usually heavy. Finding "chassis ground" in today's computers is somewhat different, and much harder. Occasionally, I've found the DE-9 or DB-25 hold-down nuts approximate a chassis ground, but not always, and even stuff from when I still felt young no longer has D connectors anyway. Beware also of the K9YC Pin One problem ... nowadays, even if there is what looks like a chassis, it may not be what you're looking for. > 1. Bond the KX3 to the power supply. 2. Bond the KX3 to the PX3. 3. > Bond the KX3 to the computer (somehow). 4. Bond the KX3 to the sound > card (in my case, a Focusrite 2i2). Theory says to ground [assuming you can find it] at one point and keep the straps from each device as short as possible. Point-to-point can create loop-throughs, again see K9YC's info at audiosystemsgroup.com Practice often differs from theory, however. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org From ron at cobi.biz Mon Jun 6 20:28:43 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 17:28:43 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Microphone Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002401d1c053$8c921ee0$a5b65ca0$@biz> We have some professional audio types on this list. I am not one of them. As an ordinary Ham who cares about how my signal sounds on the air, IMHO more than 90% of the differences in microphones used for communications are strictly cosmetic and convenience. With today's advanced computer-controlled manufacturing processes the electret element in such mics far exceeds the frequency range any quality Ham rig will allow, so that is not an issue. You will want a housing with pop suppression, so your breath won't make an objectionable pop when you exhale or say certain phonemes. You need to decide between hand-held, desk or boom mount and a mic attached to a headset. And you'll want a connector wired for the K3. Elecraft makes a nice set of mics that take all the hassle out of having the right connector and of course the company stands behind them. (In "full disclosure", I'm not an employee, but have been associated with Elecraft for 16 years so far. That has given me the opportunity to use several of their mics.) 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of riese-k3djc at juno.com Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 3:59 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Re: New products I want to talk about the best mike to use wit my K3 Bob K3DJC From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Mon Jun 6 20:52:47 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 19:52:47 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: <05de01d1c017$7de97e10$79bc7a30$@ka7ftp.com> References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <39ba3fb2-a30f-1088-3338-e93e9e6c9da8@strus.co.uk> <7e31bc96-6209-9a73-0c11-af719fac77d7@socal.rr.com> <5f142db5-a2a8-10e0-7b35-439326039842@gmail.com> <05de01d1c017$7de97e10$79bc7a30$@ka7ftp.com> Message-ID: I agree totally. One thing I never hope to see and thankfully probably won't is a pilot reaching for a touch screen while the aircraft is doing + or - 50ft "hops" in turbulence. Touch the screen to reduce thrust, slip of the finger and the engines shut off. What's the procedure for restarting engines in turbulence like that? Wanna try that with a touch screen? BTW, I'm the legally blind ham. Never did I mention in ANY email to this list pilots or cockpits, military or commercial...PERIOD. Some of you might do better focusing on your email editing and keyboard skills and forget the touch screens. The local community college probably has beginner computer classes available for continuing education credits. I'm done. On 6/6/2016 12:18 PM, len at ka7ftp.com wrote: > As a developer of both hardware and software products that use touch screens > I have mixed feelings. > > My number one gripe with soft environments is the tendency to continually > modify the environment and jam more and more functionality into the same > footprint. This either needs to be done with width or depth, take your > pick. Both Apple and Windows are horrible abusers. Every new version of > their software requires users to hunt down functions that have been moved or > crammed down. Functions that were originally intuitive are now obfuscated > in the name of progress. Lack of consistency is extremely frustrating for > most users. > > Today because of the ease of soft environments it seems that companies feel > compelled to continually bring a "new look" to each software revision of > their website or product. How many of you think Yahoo scored a home run > with NEO? In my opinion NEO is an absolute disaster. But corporate egos > won't allow users out. How would you like someone mucking with your beloved > radio in the name of pretty progress. I'll take consistency over pretty and > modern every time. I'm buying a radio, I don't want an iPhone clone, or an > Icom clone, I want my KX3 to look and exactly like the KX3 I bought. I > trust the engineers at Elecraft to make acceptable and necessary upgrades > for functionality. I also trust that they are not going to ruin a great > radio in the name of glitter.. > > It has been pointed out previously in this thread that all of Elecraft's > radios can be easily connected to a computer for computer control. Not > everything in the world needs to be integrated, and often doing so creates > compromises that are much more difficult to live with and limit the lifetime > of a product. I'm tickled pink with my Elecraft products and don't feel the > need for them to emulate anyone else to keep me as a customer! We shouldn't > be compelled to buy a radio every two years like we do with cell phones. My > expectation is to buy a product that will function for many years, and > possibly a decade or more. I would rather have multiple Elecraft products > rather than one that pretends to be all things to all people. > > 73 > > len > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevin.stover at mediacombb.net > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From brian.waterworth at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 21:17:44 2016 From: brian.waterworth at gmail.com (Brian Waterworth) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 21:17:44 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tim's library install didn't work for me. Might be because I am on Ubuntu 16.04. Do everything Tim suggested up until you have to install libraries. Then try the following. This is what I used for Ubuntu 16.04, 14.04, and 12.04: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386 libgtk2.0-0:i386 ./kx3util I just tried this on a new install of a 64bit Ubuntu 16.04 image and it worked. The KX3Util started a little slowly the first time, but then after that it was within a second or two. If you have a px3, you don't need to reinstall the libraries, just follow Tim's directions to download the PX3 tar file and repeat the steps minus the library install. Then type: ./px3util You can always go to the Elecraft site and download using your browser too. regards, Brian VE3IBW On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 1:27 PM, a45wg wrote: > In case anyone else is trying to do this - this general procedure should > work. I am starting off with a fairly basic Ubuntu 14 - 64 bit machine > > > General install for Ubuntu 14 - 64 bit > > cd > mkdir kx3 > cd kx3 > wget > http://www.elecraft.com/software/KX3/KX3UtilityLINUX_1_14_4_11.tgz > tar -zxvf KX3UtilityLINUX_1_14_4_11.tgz > cd kx3util_1_14_4_11 > > Add some 32 bit packages > > sudo apt-get install lib32z1, lib32stdc++6, install libgtk:386 > > And now it should work > > ./kx3util > > > 73s de Tim - A45WG > > > > > > On 6 Jun 2016, at 18:54, Bruce Nourish wrote: > > > > Untar it in your hormedir, run the kx3util script? > > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 7:09 AM Aaron K5ATG > wrote: > > > >> Does anyone know of any detailed instructions on installing the KX3 > Utility > >> on Linux Ubuntu? > >> Aaron Scott K5ATG > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> Message delivered to w0mbt at w0mbt.net > >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to a45wg at sy-edm.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to brian.waterworth at gmail.com > From mzilmer at roadrunner.com Mon Jun 6 21:25:16 2016 From: mzilmer at roadrunner.com (Matt Zilmer) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 18:25:16 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New products In-Reply-To: References: <13305E0D-7868-46DC-80F4-8221DD7D87E2@charter.net> <780c7d9d-a827-4a9b-2b43-f0dbc60db16f@socal.rr.com> <915FDAD9-BB39-4E0B-B96A-2D55DFA9FF0C@brannan.name> <39ba3fb2-a30f-1088-3338-e93e9e6c9da8@strus.co.uk> <7e31bc96-6209-9a73-0c11-af719fac77d7@socal.rr.com> <5f142db5-a2a8-10e0-7b35-439326039842@gmail.com> <05de01d1c017$7de97e10$79bc7a30$@ka7ftp.com> Message-ID: <3ffebe30-beb6-5177-05f5-45304b050a3b@roadrunner.com> Just a benign note. Primary aircraft engine controls will probably always be manual and "hard". Procedures will always have paper backups, even if the manuals are also available via the glass in the flight deck. Most navigation and related functions are already primary on touch, or at least "soft switches" aligned with the touchscreen, but I believe the FAA has requirements about hard instruments as backup (and primary instruments always will be). I know nothing about military aviation requirements, but often their aircraft are more conservative in design than civilian equipment. Touch screen controls are standard fare in consumer electronics, and one of the main reasons is that such devices are flexible in use cases and not very expensive. Hard controls have a fixed cost structure. Consumer electronics are on a declining cost curve. Note: I am an Elecraft employee. 73, matt W6NIA On 6/6/2016 5:52 PM, Kevin Stover wrote: > I agree totally. > > One thing I never hope to see and thankfully probably won't is a pilot > reaching for a touch screen while the aircraft is doing + or - 50ft > "hops" in turbulence. Touch the screen to reduce thrust, slip of the > finger and the engines shut off. > What's the procedure for restarting engines in turbulence like that? > Wanna try that with a touch screen? > > BTW, I'm the legally blind ham. Never did I mention in ANY email to > this list pilots or cockpits, military or commercial...PERIOD. Some of > you might do better focusing on your email editing and keyboard skills > and forget the touch screens. The local community college probably has > beginner computer classes available for continuing education credits. > > I'm done. > > > On 6/6/2016 12:18 PM, len at ka7ftp.com wrote: >> As a developer of both hardware and software products that use touch >> screens >> I have mixed feelings. >> >> My number one gripe with soft environments is the tendency to >> continually >> modify the environment and jam more and more functionality into the same >> footprint. This either needs to be done with width or depth, take your >> pick. Both Apple and Windows are horrible abusers. Every new >> version of >> their software requires users to hunt down functions that have been >> moved or >> crammed down. Functions that were originally intuitive are now >> obfuscated >> in the name of progress. Lack of consistency is extremely frustrating >> for >> most users. >> >> Today because of the ease of soft environments it seems that >> companies feel >> compelled to continually bring a "new look" to each software revision of >> their website or product. How many of you think Yahoo scored a home run >> with NEO? In my opinion NEO is an absolute disaster. But corporate >> egos >> won't allow users out. How would you like someone mucking with your >> beloved >> radio in the name of pretty progress. I'll take consistency over >> pretty and >> modern every time. I'm buying a radio, I don't want an iPhone clone, >> or an >> Icom clone, I want my KX3 to look and exactly like the KX3 I bought. I >> trust the engineers at Elecraft to make acceptable and necessary >> upgrades >> for functionality. I also trust that they are not going to ruin a great >> radio in the name of glitter.. >> >> It has been pointed out previously in this thread that all of Elecraft's >> radios can be easily connected to a computer for computer control. Not >> everything in the world needs to be integrated, and often doing so >> creates >> compromises that are much more difficult to live with and limit the >> lifetime >> of a product. I'm tickled pink with my Elecraft products and don't >> feel the >> need for them to emulate anyone else to keep me as a customer! We >> shouldn't >> be compelled to buy a radio every two years like we do with cell >> phones. My >> expectation is to buy a product that will function for many years, and >> possibly a decade or more. I would rather have multiple Elecraft >> products >> rather than one that pretends to be all things to all people. >> >> 73 >> >> len >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to kevin.stover at mediacombb.net >> > > -- Always store beer in a dark place. - R. Heinlein From jstengrevics at comcast.net Mon Jun 6 21:49:34 2016 From: jstengrevics at comcast.net (John Stengrevics) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 21:49:34 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Problems with K144XV Transverter for K3S - Can't Hear Anything In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5709051D-17BD-4608-9226-332B0CDD1D8C@comcast.net> To all those having experienced this problem with the K144XV: The problem I had was that the female connectors on the K144XV and the REFLOCK board into which the TMPs were supposed to be inserted did not accept the male and instead were pushed backward. Pushed backward = no connection = no 2 meters One of the tech support guys said this was the most frequent K3/K3S return. So, the K144XV & REFLOCK have to go back to Elecraft for repair. I suggested that, if indeed this is the most frequent return, they simply ship the K144XV with the TMPs installed as they are next to impossible to connect. When I get this back, I?m still not sure how I will connect them. Maybe take a pair of long nose in each hand, support the female while struggling to insert the male. John WA1EAZ And, apparently, the enabling/testing procedures don?t find it. So, the only way you know you have this problem is if you can?t hear anything on 2 meters. > On Jun 6, 2016, at 11:30 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: > > [CCing Ron since he does documentation for Elecraft.] > > I had similar problems when I installed the RefLock option in my K3 with the new synth. If you have the new synth, use the cabling diagrams from the new synth installation manual > see pages 15 and 16. As far as I can tell, the installation manual for the RefLock hasn't been updated for the new synth. > > I also think the the firmware "enable" option does not check for signal on the RefLock input before signaling that the option is enabled. > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > > On 6/6/16 at 6:04 AM, jstengrevics at comcast.net (stengrevics) wrote: > >> I have installed the transverter and phase lock option, and have enabled it >> successfully (per the instructions). I have an antenna whose SWR measures >> less than 1.2 across the band (confirmed with antenna analyzer). However, I >> can't hear anything on 2 meters. This was confirmed when I asked a ham >> located 5 miles away to meet me on 2 meters - nothing heard. >> >> This leads me to think that the problem is somewhere in the internal TMP >> coax connections to the K144XV or to the phase lock option. >> >> I have to say that the instructions for installing the K144XV cables were >> totally screwed up and I needed tech support to send me a picture of how >> they should go (which bore no resemblance to the instructions). I still >> have no confidence that I have these correctly installed. >> >> I would appreciate any suggestions from anyone who may have experienced >> similar problems. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Bill Frantz |"Insofar as the propositions of mathematics refer to > 408-356-8506 | reality, they are not certain; and insofar they are > www.pwpconsult.com | certain, they do not refer to reality.? -- Einstein From w6jhb at me.com Mon Jun 6 21:55:49 2016 From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett) Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 18:55:49 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Problems with K144XV Transverter for K3S - Can't Hear Anything In-Reply-To: <5709051D-17BD-4608-9226-332B0CDD1D8C@comcast.net> References: <5709051D-17BD-4608-9226-332B0CDD1D8C@comcast.net> Message-ID: John - that is EXACTLY how I got mine inserted a year or so ago, and the 2 meter module has been working flawlessly ever since. It?s a darn tight fit and if one does not support/backup the female part, bad things happen when inserting the male counterpart. Jim / W6JHB > On Monday, Jun 6, 2016, at Monday, 6:49 PM, John Stengrevics wrote: > > To all those having experienced this problem with the K144XV: > > The problem I had was that the female connectors on the K144XV and the REFLOCK board into which the TMPs were supposed to be inserted did not accept the male and instead were pushed backward. Pushed backward = no connection = no 2 meters > > One of the tech support guys said this was the most frequent K3/K3S return. > > So, the K144XV & REFLOCK have to go back to Elecraft for repair. > > I suggested that, if indeed this is the most frequent return, they simply ship the K144XV with the TMPs installed as they are next to impossible to connect. > > When I get this back, I?m still not sure how I will connect them. Maybe take a pair of long nose in each hand, support the female while struggling to insert the male. > > John > WA1EAZ > > > And, apparently, the enabling/testing procedures don?t find it. So, the only way you know you have this problem is if you can?t hear anything on 2 meters. >> On Jun 6, 2016, at 11:30 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: >> >> [CCing Ron since he does documentation for Elecraft.] >> >> I had similar problems when I installed the RefLock option in my K3 with the new synth. If you have the new synth, use the cabling diagrams from the new synth installation manual > see pages 15 and 16. As far as I can tell, the installation manual for the RefLock hasn't been updated for the new synth. >> >> I also think the the firmware "enable" option does not check for signal on the RefLock input before signaling that the option is enabled. >> >> 73 Bill AE6JV >> >> >> On 6/6/16 at 6:04 AM, jstengrevics at comcast.net (stengrevics) wrote: >> >>> I have installed the transverter and phase lock option, and have enabled it >>> successfully (per the instructions). I have an antenna whose SWR measures >>> less than 1.2 across the band (confirmed with antenna analyzer). However, I >>> can't hear anything on 2 meters. This was confirmed when I asked a ham >>> located 5 miles away to meet me on 2 meters - nothing heard. >>> >>> This leads me to think that the problem is somewhere in the internal TMP >>> coax connections to the K144XV or to the phase lock option. >>> >>> I have to say that the instructions for installing the K144XV cables were >>> totally screwed up and I needed tech support to send me a picture of how >>> they should go (which bore no resemblance to the instructions). I still >>> have no confidence that I have these correctly installed. >>> >>> I would appreciate any suggestions from anyone who may have experienced >>> similar problems. >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Bill Frantz |"Insofar as the propositions of mathematics refer to >> 408-356-8506 | reality, they are not certain; and insofar they are >> www.pwpconsult.com | certain, they do not refer to reality.? -- Einstein > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w6jhb at me.com From ron at cobi.biz Mon Jun 6 23:10:35 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 20:10:35 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Problems with K144XV Transverter for K3S - Can't Hear Anything In-Reply-To: <5709051D-17BD-4608-9226-332B0CDD1D8C@comcast.net> References: <5709051D-17BD-4608-9226-332B0CDD1D8C@comcast.net> Message-ID: <003d01d1c06a$293c2950$7bb47bf0$@biz> This is a new issue to me. Be sure you do not have any loose wire ends sticking out of the male TMP (See Figure 5 in the Ref Lock installation manual). Then, when the connector is properly aligned, it should slip in. It's snug but it should not require a lot of force. Using long nose pliers to hold the male in alignment is fine. You do NOT need to support the female connector. Indeed, the K144XV cover must be in place before connecting the cables. 73 Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Stengrevics Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 6:50 PM To: Bill Frantz Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Problems with K144XV Transverter for K3S - Can't Hear Anything To all those having experienced this problem with the K144XV: The problem I had was that the female connectors on the K144XV and the REFLOCK board into which the TMPs were supposed to be inserted did not accept the male and instead were pushed backward. Pushed backward = no connection = no 2 meters One of the tech support guys said this was the most frequent K3/K3S return. So, the K144XV & REFLOCK have to go back to Elecraft for repair. I suggested that, if indeed this is the most frequent return, they simply ship the K144XV with the TMPs installed as they are next to impossible to connect. When I get this back, I?m still not sure how I will connect them. Maybe take a pair of long nose in each hand, support the female while struggling to insert the male. John WA1EAZ And, apparently, the enabling/testing procedures don?t find it. So, the only way you know you have this problem is if you can?t hear anything on 2 meters. > On Jun 6, 2016, at 11:30 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: > > [CCing Ron since he does documentation for Elecraft.] > > I had similar problems when I installed the RefLock option in my K3 with the new synth. If you have the new synth, use the cabling diagrams from the new synth installation manual > see pages 15 and 16. As far as I can tell, the installation manual for the RefLock hasn't been updated for the new synth. > > I also think the the firmware "enable" option does not check for signal on the RefLock input before signaling that the option is enabled. > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > > On 6/6/16 at 6:04 AM, jstengrevics at comcast.net (stengrevics) wrote: > >> I have installed the transverter and phase lock option, and have >> enabled it successfully (per the instructions). I have an antenna >> whose SWR measures less than 1.2 across the band (confirmed with >> antenna analyzer). However, I can't hear anything on 2 meters. This >> was confirmed when I asked a ham located 5 miles away to meet me on 2 meters - nothing heard. >> >> This leads me to think that the problem is somewhere in the internal >> TMP coax connections to the K144XV or to the phase lock option. >> >> I have to say that the instructions for installing the K144XV cables >> were totally screwed up and I needed tech support to send me a >> picture of how they should go (which bore no resemblance to the >> instructions). I still have no confidence that I have these correctly installed. >> >> I would appreciate any suggestions from anyone who may have >> experienced similar problems. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Bill Frantz |"Insofar as the propositions of mathematics refer to > 408-356-8506 | reality, they are not certain; and insofar they are > www.pwpconsult.com | certain, they do not > refer to reality.? -- Einstein ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From jstengrevics at comcast.net Mon Jun 6 23:19:34 2016 From: jstengrevics at comcast.net (John Stengrevics) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 23:19:34 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Problems with K144XV Transverter for K3S - Can't Hear Anything In-Reply-To: <003d01d1c06a$293c2950$7bb47bf0$@biz> References: <5709051D-17BD-4608-9226-332B0CDD1D8C@comcast.net> <003d01d1c06a$293c2950$7bb47bf0$@biz> Message-ID: Really don?t see how that is possible to do with the cover on - see James Bennett?s comments that he used two sets of needle nose to get the connectors to mate. I did not have any ?loose wire ends? sticking out. Accordingly, I asked that they ship the repaired boards back to me with TMP cables pre-installed. I have no idea if they will do that. I also asked for an up-to-date and correct installation manual and testing instructions. 73 John WA1EAZ > On Jun 6, 2016, at 11:10 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > > This is a new issue to me. Be sure you do not have any loose wire ends sticking out of the male TMP (See Figure 5 in the Ref Lock installation manual). Then, when the connector is properly aligned, it should slip in. It's snug but it should not require a lot of force. Using long nose pliers to hold the male in alignment is fine. You do NOT need to support the female connector. Indeed, the K144XV cover must be in place before connecting the cables. > > 73 Ron AC7AC > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net ] On Behalf Of John Stengrevics > Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 6:50 PM > To: Bill Frantz > Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Problems with K144XV Transverter for K3S - Can't Hear Anything > > To all those having experienced this problem with the K144XV: > > The problem I had was that the female connectors on the K144XV and the REFLOCK board into which the TMPs were supposed to be inserted did not accept the male and instead were pushed backward. Pushed backward = no connection = no 2 meters > > One of the tech support guys said this was the most frequent K3/K3S return. > > So, the K144XV & REFLOCK have to go back to Elecraft for repair. > > I suggested that, if indeed this is the most frequent return, they simply ship the K144XV with the TMPs installed as they are next to impossible to connect. > > When I get this back, I?m still not sure how I will connect them. Maybe take a pair of long nose in each hand, support the female while struggling to insert the male. > > John > WA1EAZ > > > And, apparently, the enabling/testing procedures don?t find it. So, the only way you know you have this problem is if you can?t hear anything on 2 meters. >> On Jun 6, 2016, at 11:30 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: >> >> [CCing Ron since he does documentation for Elecraft.] >> >> I had similar problems when I installed the RefLock option in my K3 with the new synth. If you have the new synth, use the cabling diagrams from the new synth installation manual > see pages 15 and 16. As far as I can tell, the installation manual for the RefLock hasn't been updated for the new synth. >> >> I also think the the firmware "enable" option does not check for signal on the RefLock input before signaling that the option is enabled. >> >> 73 Bill AE6JV >> >> >> On 6/6/16 at 6:04 AM, jstengrevics at comcast.net (stengrevics) wrote: >> >>> I have installed the transverter and phase lock option, and have >>> enabled it successfully (per the instructions). I have an antenna >>> whose SWR measures less than 1.2 across the band (confirmed with >>> antenna analyzer). However, I can't hear anything on 2 meters. This >>> was confirmed when I asked a ham located 5 miles away to meet me on 2 meters - nothing heard. >>> >>> This leads me to think that the problem is somewhere in the internal >>> TMP coax connections to the K144XV or to the phase lock option. >>> >>> I have to say that the instructions for installing the K144XV cables >>> were totally screwed up and I needed tech support to send me a >>> picture of how they should go (which bore no resemblance to the >>> instructions). I still have no confidence that I have these correctly installed. >>> >>> I would appreciate any suggestions from anyone who may have >>> experienced similar problems. >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Bill Frantz |"Insofar as the propositions of mathematics refer to >> 408-356-8506 | reality, they are not certain; and insofar they are >> www.pwpconsult.com | certain, they do not >> refer to reality.? -- Einstein > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From donwilh at embarqmail.com Mon Jun 6 23:41:28 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 23:41:28 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Inserting TMP cables - was: Problems with K144XV Transverter for K3S - Can't Hear Anything In-Reply-To: References: <5709051D-17BD-4608-9226-332B0CDD1D8C@comcast.net> <003d01d1c06a$293c2950$7bb47bf0$@biz> Message-ID: <98a3c943-a701-6427-5566-99c30f395c58@embarqmail.com> I agree that TMP cables can be difficult to insert, but here is how I proceed: First make sure there are no strands hanging out of the center conductor. Then look at the very tip of the center conductor. If it appears that the crimping process has produced two "ears" that extend outside the diameter of the center pin, you can use long nose pliers to reduce the width of those ears just a bit. In other words, you are 'rounding" the tip slightly - do not take this to extremes and crush the tip, a gently 'rounding' is all that it takes. Then insert the male TMP into the female - look at the shell - if there is a gap between the male and female shells, the center conductor of the male tip is not yet started into the center conductor of the female jack. Do not push yet, but twist and 'wiggle' the connector until the center conductor is started on its proper path. Once the shell of the female closes the gap to the male connector shell, the center conductor has found its home. Then is the time to push it home - a bit of a twist will help. If you push hard on the connector before the center conductor has 'found its home', you will end up pushing the jack off its mounting lugs. Pressure toward the jack will not help until the center pin has begun seating. 73, Don W3FPR From w0mbt at w0mbt.net Tue Jun 7 02:15:52 2016 From: w0mbt at w0mbt.net (Bruce Nourish) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2016 06:15:52 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Ham Radio, now what In-Reply-To: <019f01d1c021$120d72a0$362857e0$@verizon.net> References: <019f01d1c021$120d72a0$362857e0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: Great presentation, thanks. On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 11:29 AM Bob Novas wrote: > Ward Silver gives what is I think a great Ham Radio, where goest thou ("Ham > Radio, now what") a version of which is available at > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUTndhyh79U that is somewhat applicable to > this group. Hopefully not too far off topic. Bob - W3DK > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w0mbt at w0mbt.net > From vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk Tue Jun 7 03:14:25 2016 From: vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk (Johnny Siu) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 07:14:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] Inserting TMP cables - was: Problems with K144XV Transverter for K3S - Can't Hear Anything In-Reply-To: <98a3c943-a701-6427-5566-99c30f395c58@embarqmail.com> References: <5709051D-17BD-4608-9226-332B0CDD1D8C@comcast.net> <003d01d1c06a$293c2950$7bb47bf0$@biz> <98a3c943-a701-6427-5566-99c30f395c58@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <882703142.256790.1465283665322.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> In the installation of TMP of K144XV, I opened up the top cover of K144XV to do the installation so that I could ensure what I did was fine. ?After that, I closed the top cover. 73 Johnny VR2XMC ???? Don Wilhelm ???? elecraft at mailman.qth.net ????? 2016?06?7? (??) 11:41 AM ??? [Elecraft] Inserting TMP cables - was: Problems with K144XV Transverter for K3S - Can't Hear Anything I agree that TMP cables can be difficult to insert, but here is how I proceed: First make sure there are no strands hanging out of the center conductor. Then look at the very tip of the center conductor.? If it appears that the crimping process has produced two "ears" that extend outside the diameter of the center pin, you can use long nose pliers to reduce the width of those ears just a bit.? In other words, you are 'rounding" the tip slightly - do not take this to extremes and crush the tip, a gently 'rounding' is all that it takes. Then insert the male TMP into the female - look at the shell - if there is a gap between the male and female shells, the center conductor of the male tip is not yet started into the center conductor of the female jack.? Do not push yet, but twist and 'wiggle' the connector until the center conductor is started on its proper path. Once the shell of the female closes the gap to the male connector shell, the center conductor has found its home.? Then is the time to push it home - a bit of a twist will help. If you push hard on the connector before the center conductor has 'found its home', you will end up pushing the jack off its mounting lugs.? Pressure toward the jack will not help until the center pin has begun seating. 73, Don W3FPR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue Jun 7 03:48:21 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 00:48:21 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Microphone Question In-Reply-To: <002401d1c053$8c921ee0$a5b65ca0$@biz> References: <002401d1c053$8c921ee0$a5b65ca0$@biz> Message-ID: <3114ff4f-9677-be2e-907d-e6fe931f702c@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Mon,6/6/2016 5:28 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > We have some professional audio types on this list. I am not one of them. As > an ordinary Ham who cares about how my signal sounds on the air, IMHO more > than 90% of the differences in microphones used for communications are > strictly cosmetic and convenience. This pro audio guy agrees. > With today's advanced computer-controlled manufacturing processes the > electret element in such mics far exceeds the frequency range any quality > Ham rig will allow, so that is not an issue. Agreed. > You will want a housing with pop suppression, so your breath won't make an > objectionable pop when you exhale or say certain phonemes. I disagree with this. The correct advice is to avoid microphone TYPES that are subject to breath pops, and to use the mic you have so that your voice doesn't generate pops. So -- 1) avoid directional mics and noise-cancelling mics, both of which are subject to breath pops; 2) position the mic a few inches above and to the side of your mouth. The boom mic of a headset makes this VERY easy. The Yamaha CM500 and Koss SB35 are good choices. See the photo on page 5 of http://k9yc.com/ContestAudio.pdf for an example. > You need to > decide between hand-held, desk or boom mount and a mic attached to a > headset. And you'll want a connector wired for the K3. I find a boom mic headset ideal for operating SSB. The CM500 and SB45 plug straight into the rear panel of the K3 and K3S. They are very comfortable, and both mic and headphones sound great. > Elecraft makes a nice set of mics that take all the hassle out of having the > right connector and of course the company stands behind them. (In "full > disclosure", I'm not an employee, but have been associated with Elecraft for > 16 years so far. That has given me the opportunity to use several of their > mics.) I love the guys at Elecraft, but I don't recommend the mics they sell, which they buy from third party vendors, and must sell at a significant markup. Elecraft is in the RADIO biz, and they're really good at it. Those Yamaha and Koss boom mic headsets offer FAR more value for the money. If you want something more compact to carry up the trail with your KX2 or KX3, look at lightweight computer headsets, which plug into those radios directly, or with a simple adapter you can buy on amazon for $5. 73, Jim K9YC From joel.b.black at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 06:45:14 2016 From: joel.b.black at gmail.com (Joel Black) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 05:45:14 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Shack Bonding Message-ID: <674CB36A-FB18-4A09-9822-37182403D161@gmail.com> Ok, if I understand Jim?s shack equipment bonding slide, I need to bond anything that has an unbalanced connection (excuse me for my poor ASCII drawing - you?ll have to use a fixed-width font to view): Equipment: iMac - bonded to USB interface and KX3 KX3 - bonded to iMac, USB interface, P/S, and PX3 PX3 - bonded to KX3 and P/S USB interface - bonded to iMac and KX3 P/S // \\ iMac ==== KX3 === PX3 \\ //| USB | | ANT SW I?m trying to emulate Jim?s drawing with the double lines. Since the coax would be bonded (I typed ?grounded? and changed to bonded ;) ) to the case on the KX3 and the antenna switch, I don?t *need* another bond? Since there?s no feasible way to bond the iMac to anything, make sure everything with a green-wire ground is on the same green-wire ground circuit and use Type 31 ferrites on the leads to power, KX3, and USB interface? As for the USB interface, the circuit board is ?bonded? to the aluminum chassis via a compressed spring. I can take a picture if necessary. My thought is to take a brass bolt, a pair of star washers, and a brass thumb nut and create a bond point on the aluminum chassis. Now, if I add anything in the chain, say an audio amp/splitter to send the SPKR out to speakers and headphones or something else, I would need to bond that also to whatever it has an unbalanced connection, correct? Please be critical, I?m trying to learn and understand. Kid gloves don?t work on me but 2x4s upside my head do. I?m Scots-Irish/Danish and have a *very* hard head. ;) 73, Joel - W4JBB From g8kbvdave at googlemail.com Tue Jun 7 06:59:35 2016 From: g8kbvdave at googlemail.com (Dave B) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 11:59:35 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Re: New products Message-ID: <5756A917.20000@googlemail.com> Just a benign note. Primary aircraft engine controls will probably always be manual and "hard". ~~~ Sadly, just about all modern commercial passenger aircraft now are all fly-by-(electrical)-wire, the pilot tells the array of multiple flight computers what he wants the plane to do, they take a majority vote on it, then make it happen, even the engines are not under his direct influence... I'm not even sure if there is any mk1 hydro/mechanical linkage between the rudder pedals and the nose wheel any more... It's only a matter of time before such technology (if not already done) migrates to light aircraft. Yes, it's all a little scary. At times I envy most of the sheep who don't know much about any of this, and assume the man in the left seat with a view & wearing the big hat is fully in control all the time. 73. Dave G0WBX. From enzo.adrianreyes at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 07:08:10 2016 From: enzo.adrianreyes at gmail.com (Enzo Adrian-Reyes) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 21:08:10 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 ATU Problems Message-ID: Hi there At the moment I've had so many issues with my KX3 I am kind of wondering what is wrong with it. The problem is I dont use it much but so far its died on me three times, any how the new issue so far is, the ATU, it wont tune down my end fed antenna below 24.5-1 SWR, No matter the band the lenght of the end fed, with a balun with no balun it doesnt work at 50Mhz it tunes down 8.9-1swr. This has been happening since last year, the first time i was on a buddipole while on a DX-pedition, and generally thought it was a one off thing, but now this second time its done it again, I just cannot get the unit to tune it down. The antenna is a EARCHI 40-6m end fed antenna, I've sold the buddipole because I couldnt go for a while, but this is now persistant. Any ideas on what is going on? Regards VK3FRAD From g8kbvdave at googlemail.com Tue Jun 7 07:07:49 2016 From: g8kbvdave at googlemail.com (Dave B) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 12:07:49 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Message-ID: <5756AB05.9070207@googlemail.com> All I did in the past, was to:- Create a new folder for it from my home folder. Extract the contents of the downloaded archive to that folder. Create a desktop launcher pointing to the executable. Install curl (and it's dependancies.) Needed to download firmware from Elecraft's site. $ sudo apt-get install curl I was already a member of the "dialout" group, but you might need to join that group $ sudo adduser dialout (Of course, sudo will ask for your password.) Then log out, and log back in again. After all that, it "just worked." Even with any of my generic USB<>Serial leads and homebrew cable, or the Elecraft USB<>KX3 lead. The above worked well on Lubuntu, and Mint. Both derivatives of Ubuntu. 73. Dave G0WBX. From K8UT at charter.net Tue Jun 7 07:24:19 2016 From: K8UT at charter.net (Larry Gauthier (K8UT)) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 07:24:19 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Proposed New KAT500 Option In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ed, Your proposed solution sounds similar to my current configuration, except that remote antenna switch selection is derived from a connection on the K3S - not the KAT500. I have two main coax cables leaving the shack - one goes to a remote switch at the top of the tower for selecting bands 6m - 20m; the other to a second remote switch for selecting among dipoles and loops for 30m - 160m. The KAT500 automatically determines which coax to use (Ant1 for 6m - 20m coax or Ant2 for 30m - 160m coax), while a band decoder attached to the K3S selects which specific antenna on those remote switches gets activated. This arrangement exploits the standard features of the KAT500 and the K3S without any additional hardware or programs. You might be able to accomplish the same thing using the band select outputs from the rig. -larry (K8UT) -----Original Message----- From: Ed G Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 7:51 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Proposed New KAT500 Option Hello, As part of my work designing and maintaining a remote station, I can think of several ways to use a tower-mounted RF-actuated programmable coax switch. So I'm wondering how hard it would be to add an optional external coax switch for use with the KAT500? This would offer a couple benefits - ability to tower-mount a coax switch (but maintain control of that switch via the KAT500 circuitry and utility program), and it would increase the number of available antenna ports from the current three to perhaps 6. If this option were available, it could be implemented using a small RF-sensing control box which would allow the KAT500 to remain as-is. The KAT500 PC Data line would then run through the external control box to the user's computer so that the utility program, once updated, would be able to show coax switch status and allow the utility to program how the tower-mounted switch responds. The user could hook the external RF-sensing control box to ANT1 on the KAT500 (so ANT1 would be the position to select if/when one wanted to use the tower-mounted switch). A switch control line, and the RF coax would be the two lines running to the tower-mounted switch. I'm posting here because it seems like the circuitry to sense frequency and actuate the switching is already designed, and could be mostly duplicated in the external RF-sensing control box. Would anyone else be interested in such a "smart RF coax switch" option? I suspect the numbers may not support this as a new product, but I am curious, as what I would like to see is frequently out of phase with what others need ;) --Ed-- --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k8ut at charter.net From va3mw at portcredit.net Tue Jun 7 09:01:51 2016 From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 09:01:51 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Proposed New KAT500 Option In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: All I have been running a remote base for over 10 years now, all via a variety of internet tools. If we are redesigning logic, I think we really need to consider moving up the ladder and not making older technology do the heavy lifting. Rather than using RF to manage the switching, or even RS232, we should try to use this new technology called TCP/IP. LOL All joking aside, we really need to move to all IP addressing for antenna switches, rotators, amplifiers and more. Flex is already doing that in so many ways, that I have now gone the Flex route for my remote base. It has reduced my wiring head aches 10 fold and increased my over all reliability at least that much Anything RS232 bases is now converted to RS232 over IP and where possible, using Raw sockets. PSTRotatorAz is the software tool that really helps glue this together. BTW, the devices I am using for RS232 over IP cost about $20 each and work well. I now run a LAN cable to the base of the tower for the Steppir Controller, Antenna Switch and Rotator. I cable run. I could also move the Radio there if I wished and gained several DB just by cutting out problematic RF cables that age over time. Once you start down this path, the ability to scale gets easier. Mike va3mw On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 7:24 AM, Larry Gauthier (K8UT) wrote: > Ed, > > Your proposed solution sounds similar to my current configuration, except > that remote antenna switch selection is derived from a connection on the > K3S - not the KAT500. > > I have two main coax cables leaving the shack - one goes to a remote > switch at the top of the tower for selecting bands 6m - 20m; the other to a > second remote switch for selecting among dipoles and loops for 30m - 160m. > The KAT500 automatically determines which coax to use (Ant1 for 6m - 20m > coax or Ant2 for 30m - 160m coax), while a band decoder attached to the K3S > selects which specific antenna on those remote switches gets activated. > > This arrangement exploits the standard features of the KAT500 and the K3S > without any additional hardware or programs. You might be able to > accomplish the same thing using the band select outputs from the rig. > > -larry (K8UT) > -----Original Message----- From: Ed G > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 7:51 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Proposed New KAT500 Option > > Hello, > As part of my work designing and maintaining a remote station, I can > think of several ways to use a tower-mounted RF-actuated programmable coax > switch. So I'm wondering how hard it would be to add an optional external > coax switch for use with the KAT500? This would offer a couple benefits - > ability to tower-mount a coax switch (but maintain control of that switch > via the KAT500 circuitry and utility program), and it would increase the > number of available antenna ports from the current three to perhaps 6. > If this option were available, it could be implemented using a small > RF-sensing control box which would allow the KAT500 to remain as-is. The > KAT500 PC Data line would then run through the external control box to the > user's computer so that the utility program, once updated, would be able to > show coax switch status and allow the utility to program how the > tower-mounted switch responds. The user could hook the external RF-sensing > control box to ANT1 on the KAT500 (so ANT1 would be the position to select > if/when one wanted to use the tower-mounted switch). A switch control line, > and the RF coax would be the two lines running to the tower-mounted switch. > I'm posting here because it seems like the circuitry to sense frequency > and actuate the switching is already designed, and could be mostly > duplicated in the external RF-sensing control box. Would anyone else be > interested in such a "smart RF coax switch" option? I suspect the numbers > may not support this as a new product, but I am curious, as what I would > like to see is frequently out of phase with what others need ;) > --Ed-- > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k8ut at charter.net > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to va3mw at portcredit.net > From pramponi at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 09:06:06 2016 From: pramponi at gmail.com (pramponi) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 09:06:06 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Unbuilt K2 for Sale Message-ID: Unbuilt K2 for sale - See http://www.sasian.org/k2 for details email pramponi at gmail.com text 963-414-6292 N3ADA From w7ox at socal.rr.com Tue Jun 7 10:45:19 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 07:45:19 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Microphone Question In-Reply-To: <3114ff4f-9677-be2e-907d-e6fe931f702c@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <002401d1c053$8c921ee0$a5b65ca0$@biz> <3114ff4f-9677-be2e-907d-e6fe931f702c@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <85250bf2-0099-e92a-c8c0-4be4a54eb9b2@socal.rr.com> Jim, Nice run down! Re this "If you want something more compact to carry up the trail with your KX2 or KX3, look at lightweight computer headsets, which plug into those radios directly, or with a simple adapter you can buy on amazon for $5." could you be more specific on the simple adapter at Amazon? I have one somewhere but cannot find it, so need a replacement. 73, Phil W7OX On 6/7/16 12:48 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > On Mon,6/6/2016 5:28 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: >> We have some professional audio types on this >> list. I am not one of them. As >> an ordinary Ham who cares about how my signal >> sounds on the air, IMHO more >> than 90% of the differences in microphones used >> for communications are >> strictly cosmetic and convenience. > > This pro audio guy agrees. > >> With today's advanced computer-controlled >> manufacturing processes the >> electret element in such mics far exceeds the >> frequency range any quality >> Ham rig will allow, so that is not an issue. > > Agreed. > >> You will want a housing with pop suppression, >> so your breath won't make an >> objectionable pop when you exhale or say >> certain phonemes. > > I disagree with this. The correct advice is to > avoid microphone TYPES that are subject to > breath pops, and to use the mic you have so that > your voice doesn't generate pops. So -- 1) avoid > directional mics and noise-cancelling mics, both > of which are subject to breath pops; 2) position > the mic a few inches above and to the side of > your mouth. The boom mic of a headset makes this > VERY easy. The Yamaha CM500 and Koss SB35 are > good choices. See the photo on page 5 of > http://k9yc.com/ContestAudio.pdf for an example. > >> You need to >> decide between hand-held, desk or boom mount >> and a mic attached to a >> headset. And you'll want a connector wired for >> the K3. > > I find a boom mic headset ideal for operating > SSB. The CM500 and SB45 plug straight into the > rear panel of the K3 and K3S. They are very > comfortable, and both mic and headphones sound > great. > >> Elecraft makes a nice set of mics that take all >> the hassle out of having the >> right connector and of course the company >> stands behind them. (In "full >> disclosure", I'm not an employee, but have been >> associated with Elecraft for >> 16 years so far. That has given me the >> opportunity to use several of their >> mics.) > I love the guys at Elecraft, but I don't > recommend the mics they sell, which they buy > from third party vendors, and must sell at a > significant markup. Elecraft is in the RADIO > biz, and they're really good at it. Those Yamaha > and Koss boom mic headsets offer FAR more value > for the money. If you want something more > compact to carry up the trail with your KX2 or > KX3, look at lightweight computer headsets, > which plug into those radios directly, or with a > simple adapter you can buy on amazon for $5. > > 73, Jim K9YC From jim.gmforum at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 11:16:46 2016 From: jim.gmforum at gmail.com (Jim GM) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 10:16:46 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 KXIO2 Power Consumption Q Message-ID: <5756e55b.8fa06b0a.e9b8.58cf@mx.google.com> Hi Does the KXIO2 board Draw power with the radio turned off? If so how much does it draw off the battery? With the KX2 turned on how much is the KXIO2 power draw? Jim K9TF Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From w2kj at bellsouth.net Tue Jun 7 11:20:11 2016 From: w2kj at bellsouth.net (Joe W2KJ) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 11:20:11 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping of KX2's Message-ID: <939CA5AC-7AA7-46D2-AA87-790746EA8969@bellsouth.net> Howdy Gang: I ordered my KX2 on 25 May and am wondering when I might expect to receive it. Has anone received a KX2 recently and, if so, on what date did they place their order? Many thanks for any info. Anxiously awaiting this little beauty (grin). 73, Joe W2KJ I QRP, therefore I am From kengkopp at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 11:31:30 2016 From: kengkopp at gmail.com (Ken G Kopp) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 09:31:30 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] Puter logging help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've used DX4WIN since it's introduction and it meets my needs. Have seriously considered HRD, but inspite of multiple assurances they will add US county tracking it hasn't happened. (:-(( 73 K0PP On Jun 7, 2016 07:32, "Anthony Luscre k8zt at arrl.net [KX3]" < KX3-noreply at yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Buck > > There are a number of free and paid logs to do this with: > > > - > > Free Logging Software- > - > > WinLog32- http://www.winlog32.co.uk > - > > Swisslog- http://www.informatix.li/index.htm > - > > Log4OM- www.log4om.com > - > > DX Keeper- http://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxkeeper > - > > Free Contesting > - > > N1MM+ Logging Software- http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php > > > > - > > Paid Logging Software- > - > > Ham Radio Deluxe (HRD)- http://ham-radio-deluxe.com > - > > LOGic by PDA- http://www.hosenose.com/logic > - > > N3FP- http://www.n3fjp.com > - > > DX4Win-http://www.dx4win.com > > > There are more out there, so others please chime in. > > I have been using LOGic as main log for ~20 years > I have used the previous free version of HRD > I have used Log4OM > > For Contesting I use N1MM+ > > On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 8:44 AM, hlb52111 at yahoo.com [KX3] < > KX3-noreply at yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >> >> >> Hello to everyone, Need help with portable setup and computer logging. I >> have a portable set up in RV in Jamestown,RI. KX3 and KXPA 100 to >> Shakespeare 393 marine vert antenna. Is there a stand alone program that I >> can do logging on and synch up to internet to upload data once or twice a >> week? WIFI not available in campground. I probably already have >> program,just not sure what to do. >> >> TNX >> Butch/NM1I >> >> >> > > > -- > *Anthony Luscre* > > *K8ZT* > > www.k8zt.com > www.k8zt73 at gmail.como > aluscre at neo.rr.com > __._,_.___ > ------------------------------ > Posted by: Anthony Luscre > ------------------------------ > Reply via web post > > ? Reply to sender > ? Reply > to group > ? Start > a New Topic > > ? Messages in this topic > > (2) > ------------------------------ > Have you tried the highest rated email app? > With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email > app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your > inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email > again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. > ------------------------------ > Visit Your Group > > > - New Members > > 35 > > [image: Yahoo! Groups] > > ? Privacy ? > Unsubscribe ? Terms > of Use > > . > > __,_._,___ > From bob at hogbytes.com Tue Jun 7 11:42:40 2016 From: bob at hogbytes.com (Bob N3MNT) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 08:42:40 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] Puter logging help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1465314160317-7618630.post@n2.nabble.com> If all you are looking for is an integrated logging program, Look at N3FPJ's Amateur Contact log -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Re-KX3-Puter-logging-help-tp7618629p7618630.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From eric.csuf at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 11:47:11 2016 From: eric.csuf at gmail.com (EricJ) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 08:47:11 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Re: New products In-Reply-To: <5756A917.20000@googlemail.com> References: <5756A917.20000@googlemail.com> Message-ID: We know. We saw Airplane. Eric KE6US On 6/7/2016 3:59 AM, Dave B via Elecraft wrote: > At times I envy most of the sheep who don't know much about any of > this, and assume the man in the left seat with a view & wearing the > big hat is fully in control all the time. > > 73. > > Dave G0WBX. > From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue Jun 7 11:50:49 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 08:50:49 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Microphone Question In-Reply-To: <85250bf2-0099-e92a-c8c0-4be4a54eb9b2@socal.rr.com> References: <002401d1c053$8c921ee0$a5b65ca0$@biz> <3114ff4f-9677-be2e-907d-e6fe931f702c@audiosystemsgroup.com> <85250bf2-0099-e92a-c8c0-4be4a54eb9b2@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: On Tue,6/7/2016 7:45 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > Re this "If you want something more compact to carry up the trail with > your KX2 or KX3, look at lightweight computer headsets, which plug > into those radios directly, or with a simple adapter you can buy on > amazon for $5." could you be more specific on the simple adapter at > Amazon? I have one somewhere but cannot find it, so need a replacement. Headsets are something that we need to try on, like a pair of shoes -- it essentially comes down to physical comfort. It's hard to buy something online knowing what it will feel like. :) I'm primarily a CW op, especially QRP, and I'm old enough that backpacking doesn't apeal to me, so I've never bothered to look for a backpacking headset/mic. For lightweight headphones, I like the Etymotic Research and Shure in-ear products. TXEQ in Elecraft radios is so good that virtually any mic that isn't "broke" can be made to sound good. 73, Jim K9YC From ed at w0yk.com Tue Jun 7 12:00:00 2016 From: ed at w0yk.com (Ed Muns) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2016 12:00:00 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping of KX2's Message-ID: Read the Shipping Status webpage. 73, Ed W0YK On Jun 7, 2016 11:20 AM, Joe W2KJ wrote: > > Howdy Gang: > > I ordered my KX2 on 25 May and am wondering when I might expect to receive it. > > Has anone received a KX2 recently and, if so, on what date did they place their order? > > Many thanks for any info. > > Anxiously awaiting this little beauty (grin). > > 73, Joe W2KJ > I QRP, therefore I am > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ed at w0yk.com From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue Jun 7 12:22:31 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 09:22:31 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Microphone Question In-Reply-To: <6c9f65e8-0529-9990-6908-4910046df0f9@socal.rr.com> References: <002401d1c053$8c921ee0$a5b65ca0$@biz> <3114ff4f-9677-be2e-907d-e6fe931f702c@audiosystemsgroup.com> <85250bf2-0099-e92a-c8c0-4be4a54eb9b2@socal.rr.com> <6c9f65e8-0529-9990-6908-4910046df0f9@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: On Tue,6/7/2016 8:58 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > I have the headsets. It's the adapter I've lost, so if you could aim > me at the one you suggested at Amazon I'd be much obliged! As far as I know, the only headset/mics that need an adapter would be those that have a single Tip-Ring-Ring-Sleeve (TRRS) plug. The Star-Tech MUYHSFMM adapter looks like the right part. A search for that part on amazon will find it. In the KX2 and KX3, the mic jack is TRRS, but the two rings are used for logic switching with an Elecraft mic (PTT, up/down). With any other mic (including one using this adapter), we need to go into the Menu and set MIC BTN to "Off" and set the radio to use VOX (or use the XMIT button). 73, Jim K9YC From sid at leben.com Tue Jun 7 12:30:09 2016 From: sid at leben.com (Sid Leben) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 09:30:09 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 PSK Message-ID: Having owned all the Elecraft rigs, I am again all grins. With band condo pretty poor, I am Having a ball working PSK-31 with the KX2 and a paddle? Neat way to go digital.. Kudos again to Eric, Wayne & staff Sid KC2EE From dave at nk7z.net Tue Jun 7 12:38:42 2016 From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2016 09:38:42 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] Puter logging help In-Reply-To: <1465314160317-7618630.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1465314160317-7618630.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1465317522.23558.46.camel@nk7z.net> On Tue, 2016-06-07 at 08:42 -0700, Bob N3MNT wrote: > If all you are looking for is an integrated logging program,??Look at > N3FPJ's > Amateur Contact log >? I have a short review of this software at: http://nk7z.net/review-of-n3fjps-ac-log-4/ -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net From josh at voodoolab.com Tue Jun 7 12:58:36 2016 From: josh at voodoolab.com (Josh) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 09:58:36 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Microphone Question In-Reply-To: <85250bf2-0099-e92a-c8c0-4be4a54eb9b2@socal.rr.com> References: <002401d1c053$8c921ee0$a5b65ca0$@biz> <3114ff4f-9677-be2e-907d-e6fe931f702c@audiosystemsgroup.com> <85250bf2-0099-e92a-c8c0-4be4a54eb9b2@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <24A4C187-F4D6-4F00-AA84-A056D689AE43@voodoolab.com> monoprice.com has a good selection of these type of adapters at appropriate (for high volume Chinese) prices. 73 Josh W6XU Sent from my mobile device > On Jun 7, 2016, at 7:45 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > > could you be more specific on the simple adapter at Amazon? I have one somewhere but cannot find it, so need a replacement. > From pramponi at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 13:07:09 2016 From: pramponi at gmail.com (pramponi) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 13:07:09 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 146, Issue 13 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Phone number correction 863-414-6292 Also, please put k2N3ADA in subject - Thanks! > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 09:06:06 -0400 > From: pramponi > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Unbuilt K2 for Sale > Message-ID: > < > CAL+zSiCh-QfuJQjdTkxgdszXA1cJx6+kKi+GYokWVDLQET-jxg at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Unbuilt K2 for sale - See http://www.sasian.org/k2 for details > email pramponi at gmail.com > text 963-414-6292 > > N3ADA > From Dubinse at aol.com Tue Jun 7 13:37:10 2016 From: Dubinse at aol.com (Dubinse at aol.com) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 13:37:10 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Question re TXMON Message-ID: <5b09a2.30bff4b3.44886046@aol.com> I have recently added P3 to my K3 and (surprise!) I love it. My (previously owned) P3 came with TXMON. TXMON works fine with dummy load, but often shows very high SWR readings when K3 ATU is used with non-resonant antenna. I understand that the TXMON "looks at" antenna and doesn't know what ATU is doing. My question is, "Is there any problem or danger to leave the TXMON connected when using ATU on non-resonant part of antenna bandwidth? My reason to ask is that tab to release TXMON sensor plug is right up against top RS232 plug and I need to disconnect that plug in order to disconnect TXMON sensor cable. TNX ES 73 de W3UEC (Steve) From bob at hogbytes.com Tue Jun 7 13:59:07 2016 From: bob at hogbytes.com (Bob N3MNT) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 10:59:07 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] Puter logging help In-Reply-To: <1465314160317-7618630.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1465314160317-7618630.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1465322347158-7618640.post@n2.nabble.com> OOPs Typo The program is N3FJP. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Re-KX3-Puter-logging-help-tp7618629p7618640.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From jimfinan at att.net Tue Jun 7 15:09:51 2016 From: jimfinan at att.net (Jim Finan) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2016 15:09:51 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 /KX3 Headset Question Message-ID: <20160607190856.5869650.40646.40656@att.net> As a former air Traffic Controller I used the Plantronics StarSet headset for years. I've been wanting to adapt one to my KX3 (and now my KX2). Jim (?K9YC), in his RFI treatise, indicates that Plantronics headsets are a good choice. However, his recommendations were regarding the $25 variety, not necessarily the StarSet.? My questions are: 1. Has anyone adapted a StarSet for this use? 2. Are there any reasons why the StarSet would be a bad choice? 3. Can the matching hand switch be adapted too? Any suggestions would be appreciated While the StarSet is only a single-sided headset, I haven't seen many that are lighter or ?more compact. It would seem to be ideal for portable SSB. I originally wanted to do this when I got my KX3 a couple years ago but my interest was rekindled after receiving my KX2 a week or so ago.? Thanks and 73, Jim AB4AC? Jim?Finan Sent?from?my?BlackBerry?10?smartphone. From n1al at sonic.net Tue Jun 7 15:29:22 2016 From: n1al at sonic.net (Alan Bloom) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 12:29:22 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Question re TXMON In-Reply-To: <5b09a2.30bff4b3.44886046@aol.com> References: <5b09a2.30bff4b3.44886046@aol.com> Message-ID: <57572092.9040108@sonic.net> There is no reason to disconnect the P3 from the sensor. The sensor can't damage the P3. I suppose there might be a danger of damaging the sensor if you are running high power into a very high SWR, but if it is in a range that the K3 ATU can tune, I can't imagine there would be a problem. Alan N1AL On 06/07/2016 10:37 AM, Steve via Elecraft wrote: > I have recently added P3 to my K3 and (surprise!) I love it. My > (previously owned) P3 came with TXMON. TXMON works fine with dummy load, but often > shows very high SWR readings when K3 ATU is used with non-resonant antenna. > I understand that the TXMON "looks at" antenna and doesn't know what ATU is > doing. My question is, "Is there any problem or danger to leave the TXMON > connected when using ATU on non-resonant part of antenna bandwidth? My > reason to ask is that tab to release TXMON sensor plug is right up against top > RS232 plug and I need to disconnect that plug in order to disconnect TXMON > sensor cable. > > TNX ES 73 de W3UEC (Steve) > From bob.novas at verizon.net Tue Jun 7 16:23:01 2016 From: bob.novas at verizon.net (Bob Novas) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2016 16:23:01 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Question re TXMON In-Reply-To: <57572092.9040108@sonic.net> References: <5b09a2.30bff4b3.44886046@aol.com> <57572092.9040108@sonic.net> Message-ID: <007b01d1c0fa$642e2dc0$2c8a8940$@verizon.net> I wondered if a high SWR affects the waveform that the P3 displays - wouldn't the voltages be higher at high SWR? would that put the txmonitor into a non -linear region? > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Alan > Bloom > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 3:29 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Question re TXMON > > There is no reason to disconnect the P3 from the sensor. The sensor can't > damage the P3. > > I suppose there might be a danger of damaging the sensor if you are running > high power into a very high SWR, but if it is in a range that the K3 ATU can tune, I > can't imagine there would be a problem. > > Alan N1AL > > > On 06/07/2016 10:37 AM, Steve via Elecraft wrote: > > I have recently added P3 to my K3 and (surprise!) I love it. My > > (previously owned) P3 came with TXMON. TXMON works fine with dummy > > load, but often shows very high SWR readings when K3 ATU is used with non- > resonant antenna. > > I understand that the TXMON "looks at" antenna and doesn't know what > > ATU is doing. My question is, "Is there any problem or danger to leave > > the TXMON connected when using ATU on non-resonant part of antenna > > bandwidth? My reason to ask is that tab to release TXMON sensor plug > > is right up against top > > RS232 plug and I need to disconnect that plug in order to disconnect > > TXMON sensor cable. > > > > TNX ES 73 de W3UEC (Steve) > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to bob.novas at verizon.net From Randy.Armour at nashville.gov Tue Jun 7 17:00:21 2016 From: Randy.Armour at nashville.gov (Armour, Randy (WS)) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 21:00:21 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping of KX2's In-Reply-To: <939CA5AC-7AA7-46D2-AA87-790746EA8969@bellsouth.net> References: <939CA5AC-7AA7-46D2-AA87-790746EA8969@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <7C0EA72A588AE14D9F9B595663F9C7902FCE773F@HOBSVISEX05.nashville.org> I ordered a KX2 on May 21st, at the Dayton Hamvention booth. No sign of it yet. Inquired about shipping status via email last night (10:00pm central). No response yet... but I too am very anxious. It is difficult to practice patience with this one! :-) Randy - KI4LMR -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe W2KJ Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 10:20 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping of KX2's Howdy Gang: I ordered my KX2 on 25 May and am wondering when I might expect to receive it. Has anone received a KX2 recently and, if so, on what date did they place their order? Many thanks for any info. Anxiously awaiting this little beauty (grin). 73, Joe W2KJ I QRP, therefore I am From paul.wilton at tesco.net Tue Jun 7 17:16:51 2016 From: paul.wilton at tesco.net (Paul Wilton) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 22:16:51 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] Difference in DSP in K2 and K3S Message-ID: <15E2FC47-6A43-4D60-AC1B-6454476BA1E2@tesco.net> I have been using a K3S in a 2m SSB VHF contest this evening and find that the DSP NR is a bit a disappointment compared with my usual K2 rig. My QTH has a fair degree on man-made noise so on the K2, I normally run with the NR at level 4 (factory settings - I haven?t adjusted them). However, when using the NR on the K3S this evening, when I adjusted it to get a similar amount of noise reduction, I find that is accompanied by a lot of swooshing noise modulated with an interval of between 0.5 to 3seconds. Also, the voices seem a lot more robotic and harder to understand. I did try all of the NR settings but didn?t really find one which matched the niceness of the K2. Has anyone else progressed from a K2 to a K3 on VHF and would like to comment on the effectiveness of the NR? And more importantly, are there some settings I can try to get the K3S to sound like my K2? 73 Paul M1CNK From n1al at sonic.net Tue Jun 7 17:18:07 2016 From: n1al at sonic.net (Alan Bloom) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 14:18:07 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Question re TXMON In-Reply-To: <007b01d1c0fa$642e2dc0$2c8a8940$@verizon.net> References: <5b09a2.30bff4b3.44886046@aol.com> <57572092.9040108@sonic.net> <007b01d1c0fa$642e2dc0$2c8a8940$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <57573A0F.4030801@sonic.net> The waveform display in the P3 TX monitor auto-ranges to keep the modulation peaks within the display limits. However, if the forward power gets high enough to over-range the ADC, then the waveform will be clipped. With the 200W HF sensor, I believe the clipping level is about 240-250 watts, depending on the calibration. With 100W out of the K3 and assuming 100% efficiency in the tuner, the SWR would have to get up to about 7.7:1 to cause clipping of the displayed waveform. Alan N1AL On 06/07/2016 01:23 PM, Bob Novas wrote: > I wondered if a high SWR affects the waveform that the P3 displays - > wouldn't the voltages be higher at high SWR? would that put the txmonitor > into a non -linear region? > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Alan >> Bloom >> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 3:29 PM >> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Question re TXMON >> >> There is no reason to disconnect the P3 from the sensor. The sensor can't >> damage the P3. >> >> I suppose there might be a danger of damaging the sensor if you are > running >> high power into a very high SWR, but if it is in a range that the K3 ATU > can tune, I >> can't imagine there would be a problem. >> >> Alan N1AL >> >> >> On 06/07/2016 10:37 AM, Steve via Elecraft wrote: >>> I have recently added P3 to my K3 and (surprise!) I love it. My >>> (previously owned) P3 came with TXMON. TXMON works fine with dummy >>> load, but often shows very high SWR readings when K3 ATU is used with > non- >> resonant antenna. >>> I understand that the TXMON "looks at" antenna and doesn't know what >>> ATU is doing. My question is, "Is there any problem or danger to leave >>> the TXMON connected when using ATU on non-resonant part of antenna >>> bandwidth? My reason to ask is that tab to release TXMON sensor plug >>> is right up against top >>> RS232 plug and I need to disconnect that plug in order to disconnect >>> TXMON sensor cable. >>> >>> TNX ES 73 de W3UEC (Steve) >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message >> delivered to bob.novas at verizon.net > From Randy.Armour at nashville.gov Tue Jun 7 17:19:21 2016 From: Randy.Armour at nashville.gov (Armour, Randy (WS)) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 21:19:21 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping of KX2's In-Reply-To: <7C0EA72A588AE14D9F9B595663F9C7902FCE773F@HOBSVISEX05.nashville.org> References: <939CA5AC-7AA7-46D2-AA87-790746EA8969@bellsouth.net> <7C0EA72A588AE14D9F9B595663F9C7902FCE773F@HOBSVISEX05.nashville.org> Message-ID: <7C0EA72A588AE14D9F9B595663F9C7902FCE7841@HOBSVISEX05.nashville.org> Update. My KX2 ordered on May 21st ships today! I got more anxious after reading this thread and called Elecraft. Randy - KI4LMR -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Armour, Randy (WS) Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 4:00 PM To: 'Joe W2KJ' ; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping of KX2's I ordered a KX2 on May 21st, at the Dayton Hamvention booth. No sign of it yet. Inquired about shipping status via email last night (10:00pm central). No response yet... but I too am very anxious. It is difficult to practice patience with this one! :-) Randy - KI4LMR -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe W2KJ Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 10:20 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping of KX2's Howdy Gang: I ordered my KX2 on 25 May and am wondering when I might expect to receive it. Has anone received a KX2 recently and, if so, on what date did they place their order? Many thanks for any info. Anxiously awaiting this little beauty (grin). 73, Joe W2KJ I QRP, therefore I am ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to randy.armour at nashville.gov From jstengrevics at comcast.net Tue Jun 7 17:47:47 2016 From: jstengrevics at comcast.net (John Stengrevics) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 17:47:47 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Difference in DSP in K2 and K3S In-Reply-To: <15E2FC47-6A43-4D60-AC1B-6454476BA1E2@tesco.net> References: <15E2FC47-6A43-4D60-AC1B-6454476BA1E2@tesco.net> Message-ID: If anyone has a moment to provide instructions on how best to adjust the NR, I would appreciate it as well. 73, John WA1EAZ > On Jun 7, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Paul Wilton wrote: > > I have been using a K3S in a 2m SSB VHF contest this evening and find that the DSP NR is a bit a disappointment compared with my usual K2 rig. My QTH has a fair degree on man-made noise so on the K2, I normally run with the NR at level 4 (factory settings - I haven?t adjusted them). However, when using the NR on the K3S this evening, when I adjusted it to get a similar amount of noise reduction, I find that is accompanied by a lot of swooshing noise modulated with an interval of between 0.5 to 3seconds. Also, the voices seem a lot more robotic and harder to understand. > > I did try all of the NR settings but didn?t really find one which matched the niceness of the K2. Has anyone else progressed from a K2 to a K3 on VHF and would like to comment on the effectiveness of the NR? And more importantly, are there some settings I can try to get the K3S to sound like my K2? > > > 73 > > Paul > M1CNK > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jstengrevics at comcast.net From kevin at k4vd.net Tue Jun 7 17:48:38 2016 From: kevin at k4vd.net (Kevin - K4VD) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 17:48:38 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping of KX2's In-Reply-To: <7C0EA72A588AE14D9F9B595663F9C7902FCE7841@HOBSVISEX05.nashville.org> References: <939CA5AC-7AA7-46D2-AA87-790746EA8969@bellsouth.net> <7C0EA72A588AE14D9F9B595663F9C7902FCE773F@HOBSVISEX05.nashville.org> <7C0EA72A588AE14D9F9B595663F9C7902FCE7841@HOBSVISEX05.nashville.org> Message-ID: Randy... How were you told? I have been waiting for any kind of confirmation that the company even received my KX3 order last Friday. I'm probably being impatient but I'd at least like some confirmation that the order is there. I tried emailing and calling with no response. They are probably scurrying around trying to get KX2 orders out the door. Enjoy your new KX2! Kev K4VD On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Armour, Randy (WS) < Randy.Armour at nashville.gov> wrote: > Update. My KX2 ordered on May 21st ships today! I got more anxious after > reading this thread and called Elecraft. > > Randy - KI4LMR > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of > Armour, Randy (WS) > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 4:00 PM > To: 'Joe W2KJ' ; elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping of KX2's > > I ordered a KX2 on May 21st, at the Dayton Hamvention booth. No sign of > it yet. Inquired about shipping status via email last night (10:00pm > central). No response yet... but I too am very anxious. It is difficult > to practice patience with this one! :-) > > Randy - KI4LMR > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe > W2KJ > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 10:20 AM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping of KX2's > > Howdy Gang: > > I ordered my KX2 on 25 May and am wondering when I might expect to receive > it. > > Has anone received a KX2 recently and, if so, on what date did they place > their order? > > Many thanks for any info. > > Anxiously awaiting this little beauty (grin). > > 73, Joe W2KJ > I QRP, therefore I am > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to randy.armour at nashville.gov > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevin at k4vd.net > From donwilh at embarqmail.com Tue Jun 7 17:58:15 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 17:58:15 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Difference in DSP in K2 and K3S In-Reply-To: <15E2FC47-6A43-4D60-AC1B-6454476BA1E2@tesco.net> References: <15E2FC47-6A43-4D60-AC1B-6454476BA1E2@tesco.net> Message-ID: <93e325fb-0e0d-50d3-432f-9515f2c315fb@embarqmail.com> Paul, Comparing the technical side of the K2 DSP NR with the K3 NR is like comparing apples and oranges. The KDSP2 is DSP added at audio, while the K3 NR is done at the 15kHz IF. The K3 offers many more settings that are available with the K2 DSP, so I encourage you to experiment some more. The way the NR algorithm works is that the DSP searches for what it believes to be a correlated signal and builds a filter around that signal. That may result in the 'robotic' voices that you mention. Not all noises are the same, and you may have to find the settings that deal most effectively with your particular noise - as I indicated, experimentation may be necessary. You should look at the manual page dealing with "Reducing Interference and Noise" for some clues and cautions about NR. Check to see if Noise Blanking might be more effective than NR for the type of noise you are dealing with. A combination of the two can also be used if that should help. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/7/2016 5:16 PM, Paul Wilton wrote: > I have been using a K3S in a 2m SSB VHF contest this evening and find that the DSP NR is a bit a disappointment compared with my usual K2 rig. My QTH has a fair degree on man-made noise so on the K2, I normally run with the NR at level 4 (factory settings - I haven?t adjusted them). However, when using the NR on the K3S this evening, when I adjusted it to get a similar amount of noise reduction, I find that is accompanied by a lot of swooshing noise modulated with an interval of between 0.5 to 3seconds. Also, the voices seem a lot more robotic and harder to understand. > > I did try all of the NR settings but didn?t really find one which matched the niceness of the K2. Has anyone else progressed from a K2 to a K3 on VHF and would like to comment on the effectiveness of the NR? And more importantly, are there some settings I can try to get the K3S to sound like my K2? > From eric at elecraft.com Tue Jun 7 18:13:17 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 15:13:17 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping of KX2's In-Reply-To: References: <939CA5AC-7AA7-46D2-AA87-790746EA8969@bellsouth.net> <7C0EA72A588AE14D9F9B595663F9C7902FCE773F@HOBSVISEX05.nashville.org> <7C0EA72A588AE14D9F9B595663F9C7902FCE7841@HOBSVISEX05.nashville.org> Message-ID: <5f1bdb56-3d16-2d5f-033a-309b307016df@elecraft.com> Hi Kevin, I just checked our system, and I show that your order has been entered for a KX3 and accessories. It should ship in the next 4-7 business days. If you placed your order on-line, you should have received an automated confirmation with an order number. (Check your Spam folder just in case..) 73, Eric /elecraft.com/ On 6/7/2016 2:48 PM, Kevin - K4VD wrote: > Randy... > > How were you told? I have been waiting for any kind of confirmation that > the company even received my KX3 order last Friday. I'm probably being > impatient but I'd at least like some confirmation that the order is there. > > I tried emailing and calling with no response. They are probably scurrying > around trying to get KX2 orders out the door. > > Enjoy your new KX2! > > Kev > K4VD > From eric at elecraft.com Tue Jun 7 18:15:13 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 15:15:13 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping of KX2's In-Reply-To: References: <939CA5AC-7AA7-46D2-AA87-790746EA8969@bellsouth.net> <7C0EA72A588AE14D9F9B595663F9C7902FCE773F@HOBSVISEX05.nashville.org> <7C0EA72A588AE14D9F9B595663F9C7902FCE7841@HOBSVISEX05.nashville.org> Message-ID: <206ab926-0f30-e9a2-517c-14b10a5c95b2@elecraft.com> One other note - we are receiving so many sales calls and emails right now that there can be up to a business day or two for some replies. 73, Eric /elecraft.com/ On 6/7/2016 2:48 PM, Kevin - K4VD wrote: > Randy... > > How were you told? I have been waiting for any kind of confirmation that > the company even received my KX3 order last Friday. I'm probably being > impatient but I'd at least like some confirmation that the order is there. > > I tried emailing and calling with no response. They are probably scurrying > around trying to get KX2 orders out the door. > > Enjoy your new KX2! > > Kev > K4VD > From phystad at mac.com Tue Jun 7 18:18:50 2016 From: phystad at mac.com (Phil Hystad) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 15:18:50 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping of KX2's In-Reply-To: <206ab926-0f30-e9a2-517c-14b10a5c95b2@elecraft.com> References: <939CA5AC-7AA7-46D2-AA87-790746EA8969@bellsouth.net> <7C0EA72A588AE14D9F9B595663F9C7902FCE773F@HOBSVISEX05.nashville.org> <7C0EA72A588AE14D9F9B595663F9C7902FCE7841@HOBSVISEX05.nashville.org> <206ab926-0f30-e9a2-517c-14b10a5c95b2@elecraft.com> Message-ID: > > One other note - we are receiving so many sales calls and emails right now that there can be up to a business day or two for some replies. Sounds like good news for Elecraft! Nice to meet you at SEAPAC last Saturday. WX is like that all the time (well, maybe not). 73, phil, K7PEH P.S. We didn?t actually meat by exchanging names, I just sort of asked you some questions about the KX2. From richei at elecraft.com Tue Jun 7 18:36:48 2016 From: richei at elecraft.com (Rich Heineck) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 15:36:48 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 KXIO2 Power Consumption Q In-Reply-To: <5756e55b.8fa06b0a.e9b8.58cf@mx.google.com> References: <5756e55b.8fa06b0a.e9b8.58cf@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <57574C80.9060703@elecraft.com> Jim, About 30 uA with the radio off, and about 1 mA with it on. 73, Rich AC7MA On 06/07/2016 08:16 AM, Jim GM wrote: > Hi > > Does the KXIO2 board Draw power with the radio turned off? If so how much does it draw off the battery? > > With the KX2 turned on how much is the KXIO2 power draw? > > Jim K9TF > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to richei at elecraft.com > From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue Jun 7 19:12:27 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 16:12:27 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day In-Reply-To: <27CD3619-E334-43F1-A1F5-859DC2BD1052@icloud.com> References: <27CD3619-E334-43F1-A1F5-859DC2BD1052@icloud.com> Message-ID: <10522ee8-c341-b287-2aff-534a9f986f2d@audiosystemsgroup.com> Thanks for the input, Gerry. The 18-turn choke described below would be a good starting point for RFI on the AM broadcast band. 73, Jim K9YC On Tue,6/7/2016 2:46 PM, Gerry leary wrote: > I found an off a lot of interference on the a.m. band from other radios. So for example my roommate who lives downstairs, couldn't use much of his a.m. radio receiving abilities when I use that charger.. > > Sent from my iPhone this time > >> >On Jun 6, 2016, at 6:27 AM, thelastdb wrote: >> > >> >I have not experienced any RFI from my 4A Genasun MPPT controller. >> >Myron WV?HPrinted on Recycled Data -------- Original message --------From: Jim Brown Date: 6/6/2016 4:20 AM (GMT-07:00) To:elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Field Day >>> >>On Sun,6/5/2016 7:50 PM, Howard Hoyt wrote: >>> >>Has anyone on this list used one of the Bioenno MPPT chargers, and are >>> >>they RF quiet? >> > >> >Pretty quiet, but not totally so. The answer depends on proximity of >> >antennas and operating frequency. I just tested the 4A charger they >> >supplied for my 20Ah battery and heard a very low level buzz on the 160M >> >antenna 25 ft from my shack. A choke with 18 turns on a single #31 >> >2.4-in diameter toroid killed it. From mike at mdodd.com Tue Jun 7 20:40:47 2016 From: mike at mdodd.com (Mike Dodd) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 20:40:47 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] Puter logging help In-Reply-To: <1465322347158-7618640.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1465314160317-7618630.post@n2.nabble.com> <1465322347158-7618640.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <5757698F.1000801@mdodd.com> On 6/7/2016 1:59 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote: > The program is N3FJP. I use Scott's Amateur Contact Log (ACL) for general logging, and like it a lot. It talked to my KX3 and it talks to my K3s. I bought Scott's entire suite of software licenses, and used a couple of contest programs, but did not like having to download and install a separate program for each contest each year. Now I use N1MM+ for all contests. I like the screen layout of ACL better than other logging programs I tried briefly. The current-QSO portion of the screen can be customized in field colors, font size, and even field placement. The log portion can be customized as well; I like to see many fields, so I run into screen width problems. Maybe I need a 27" monitor. :-) ACL has some annoying (for me) quirks that I've asked Scott to fix, but he's been busy rewriting most of his software for the latest DotNet platform, and the quirks remain. One annoyance is, when editing a log entry (not the current QSO), a separate dialog opens, and pressing ESC to cancel does not work -- you have to click the CANCEL button on the dialog. I'd rather just hit a key. ACL has a "net" feature, where, as NCS, you can quickly log stations checked into a net. After they're entered in the "net" dialog, one button cvlick saves them all to the main log. One nice feature is that you can create a comment such as "XYZ Net" that is automatically added to each station's entry. But this comment is appended in the comment field to the station owner's name and address from a callbook lookup. Appending the comment shoves it way off to the right where is isn't visible in the general log. Worse, if you decide to manually delete the auto-filled name and address, you can't do it by selecting all the text, and hitting DELETE. Only the _visible_ text is selected and deleted; you have to do this three or four times to clear the field. There are a few other annoyances, but all-in-all, I'm pleased with ACL. -- 73, Mike N4CF Louisa County, VA USA Elecraft K3s/100 Carolina Windom up 45' http://n4cf.mdodd.com From sjl219 at optonline.net Tue Jun 7 20:54:43 2016 From: sjl219 at optonline.net (stan levandowski) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 20:54:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping of KX2's In-Reply-To: References: <939CA5AC-7AA7-46D2-AA87-790746EA8969@bellsouth.net> <7C0EA72A588AE14D9F9B595663F9C7902FCE773F@HOBSVISEX05.nashville.org> <7C0EA72A588AE14D9F9B595663F9C7902FCE7841@HOBSVISEX05.nashville.org> Message-ID: <654763e0.6428b.1552d811b9a.Webtop.58@optonline.net> I ordered a KX2 on June 5 and received today, from Madelyn, an email that Elecraft received my order, my Paypal transaction went through and that current shipping is running 2 to 3 weeks from date of order. 73, Stan WB2LQF From frantz at pwpconsult.com Tue Jun 7 21:12:42 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 18:12:42 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day In-Reply-To: <10522ee8-c341-b287-2aff-534a9f986f2d@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: I have been using a solar charge controller from CIrKits . The kit comes in a 20A version and there are modification instructions for 40A, 60A, and 80A. I have the 20A version and have noticed no RFI in my suburban QTH. The higher current modifications change some of the circuit resistors to keep the RFI low, so low RFI was one of the design goals. This controller feeds full panel current to the battery until the voltage reaches the float voltage and then floats the battery at that voltage. This techniqueis a good for lead-acid batteries but is probably not appropriate for lithium family chemistries. It is also not the most efficient way to charge a lead-acid battery. Higher efficiency can be achieved by charging at a slightly higher voltage and only reducing the voltage to the float voltage when the charge current becomes low. With my 7.5A rated panels, I can recover the batteries charge in a day after spending a weekend contesting at 100W, so the additional efficiency is not a major concern. The charge system also works well on field day at QRP power levels. 73 Bill AE6JV ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Ham radio contesting is a | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | contact sport. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | - Ken Widelitz K6LA / VY2TT | Los Gatos, CA 95032 From nr4c at widomaker.com Tue Jun 7 21:35:45 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 21:35:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping of KX2's In-Reply-To: <7C0EA72A588AE14D9F9B595663F9C7902FCE773F@HOBSVISEX05.nashville.org> References: <939CA5AC-7AA7-46D2-AA87-790746EA8969@bellsouth.net> <7C0EA72A588AE14D9F9B595663F9C7902FCE773F@HOBSVISEX05.nashville.org> Message-ID: Well you should have been around when the KX3 was introduced at Dayton. They didn't even start taking orders until very very late December and no shipping until April or May. Those were the days! Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jun 7, 2016, at 5:00 PM, Armour, Randy (WS) wrote: > > I ordered a KX2 on May 21st, at the Dayton Hamvention booth. No sign of it yet. Inquired about shipping status via email last night (10:00pm central). No response yet... but I too am very anxious. It is difficult to practice patience with this one! :-) > > Randy - KI4LMR > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe W2KJ > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 10:20 AM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping of KX2's > > Howdy Gang: > > I ordered my KX2 on 25 May and am wondering when I might expect to receive it. > > Has anone received a KX2 recently and, if so, on what date did they place their order? > > Many thanks for any info. > > Anxiously awaiting this little beauty (grin). > > 73, Joe W2KJ > I QRP, therefore I am > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From lmarion at mt.net Tue Jun 7 22:09:37 2016 From: lmarion at mt.net (lmarion) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 20:09:37 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: Shipping of KX2's Message-ID: <1BA34B48442342829BEA8227C7728239@LeroyPC> Well I ordered $7k of K3S and a KX2. I received my KX2 two weeks ago and having a bucket of fun with it. But no K3S yet or even a shipping notice. Go figure. Leroy, AB7CE -----Original Message----- From: stan levandowski Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 6:54 PM Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping of KX2's I ordered a KX2 on June 5 and received today, from Madelyn, an email that Elecraft received my order, my Paypal transaction went through and that current shipping is running 2 to 3 weeks from date of order. 73, Stan WB2LQF ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to lmarion at mt.net From w0mbt at w0mbt.net Tue Jun 7 23:27:53 2016 From: w0mbt at w0mbt.net (Bruce Nourish) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2016 03:27:53 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 batteries on airlines Message-ID: Just checking up on the rules... https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ash/ash_programs/hazmat/passenger_info/media/Airline_passengers_and_batteries.pdf The KX2 battery is a ~28 Wh lithium ion. Reading the chart, that means: * Installed in the KX2, it's legit for carry-on and checked. * Spares (not installed in the KX2) may be carried on in any quantity, provided they are for personal use (not resale), and are protected from short circuit and damage (e.g. tape on the terminals, carried in a protective pouch). * Spares may NOT be checked into luggage. Note that plugging the battery into a charger doesn't make it "installed"; it has to be in the KX2, or it's a spare. Bruce From raysills3 at verizon.net Tue Jun 7 22:34:22 2016 From: raysills3 at verizon.net (Ray Sills) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2016 22:34:22 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping of KX2's In-Reply-To: References: <939CA5AC-7AA7-46D2-AA87-790746EA8969@bellsouth.net> <7C0EA72A588AE14D9F9B595663F9C7902FCE773F@HOBSVISEX05.nashville.org> Message-ID: Amen to that! I put my order in within hours of the ?opening of the order window?.. in late December, and received mine at the end of May. That was a long, long wait. But worth it. 73 de Ray K2ULR KX3 #211 > On Jun 7, 2016, at 9:35 PM, Nr4c wrote: > > Well you should have been around when the KX3 was introduced at Dayton. They didn't even start taking orders until very very late December and no shipping until April or May. Those were the days! > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > From n5ia at zia-connection.com Tue Jun 7 23:58:14 2016 From: n5ia at zia-connection.com (Milt -- N5IA) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 20:58:14 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping of KX2's In-Reply-To: References: <939CA5AC-7AA7-46D2-AA87-790746EA8969@bellsouth.net> <7C0EA72A588AE14D9F9B595663F9C7902FCE773F@HOBSVISEX05.nashville.org> Message-ID: And with the K3 in 2007 the order placed in May was ready to be shipped the following January 2008. But the 2nd RX wasn't installed and was still not available, so I took delivery of the complete ordered radio nearly one year after ordering. In the mean time I had the privilege of getting acquainted with the K3 at VP6DX. As stated; the wait was worth it. 73 de Milt, N5IA -----Original Message----- From: Ray Sills Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 7:34 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping of KX2's Amen to that! I put my order in within hours of the ?opening of the order window?.. in late December, and received mine at the end of May. That was a long, long wait. But worth it. 73 de Ray K2ULR KX3 #211 > On Jun 7, 2016, at 9:35 PM, Nr4c wrote: > > Well you should have been around when the KX3 was introduced at Dayton. > They didn't even start taking orders until very very late December and no > shipping until April or May. Those were the days! > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n5ia at zia-connection.com From kg6mti at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 8 00:49:15 2016 From: kg6mti at sbcglobal.net (David Davis) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 22:49:15 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 RF out voltage measurements... Message-ID: <9dd532fb-4cf8-a760-61d5-e777ddac3102@sbcglobal.net> I might have an RF out issue with my KX3 but I am not sure how to test it. I have an Elecraft DL1 and a DMM that I figure I can use to check the RF voltages and verify the power out. However, I am not sure of the exact process on how to do this. If I am keying the mic on SSB do I need to speak into the mic to be able to measure the voltages or just key the mic with silence? I would assume I need to be speaking into the mic. The reason I ask this is because if I just key the mic with silence and the radio set for 10W with a input power supply of 13.5V DC I measure 4.7mv DC at the TP1 on the DL1 unit. If I speak into the mic I see voltages from 11 - 18V DC from the TP1 on the DL1 unit. It seems to me that I need to be speaking into the mic. I figure if I was checking the RF out in CW mode I would need to key the keyer in some fashion. I know this seems like an elementary level question but I would really like to verify the RF power out. Any information is greatly appreciated in advance. Thanks! David KG6MTI From frantz at pwpconsult.com Wed Jun 8 01:21:48 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 22:21:48 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 RF out voltage measurements... In-Reply-To: <9dd532fb-4cf8-a760-61d5-e777ddac3102@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: It is best to use CW or Tune or even AM to check power output. If you don't speak into the mic in SSB mode, the output should be zero, as the carrier is suppressed and with no audio, there is no side band. 73 Bill AE6JV On 6/7/16 at 9:49 PM, kg6mti at sbcglobal.net (David Davis) wrote: >I might have an RF out issue with my KX3 but I am not sure how to test it. > >I have an Elecraft DL1 and a DMM that I figure I can use to check the RF >voltages and verify the power out. However, I am not sure of the exact >process on how to do this. If I am keying the mic on SSB do I need to >speak into the mic to be able to measure the voltages or just key the >mic with silence? I would assume I need to be speaking into the mic. > >The reason I ask this is because if I just key the mic with silence and >the radio set for 10W with a input power supply of 13.5V DC I measure >4.7mv DC at the TP1 on the DL1 unit. > >If I speak into the mic I see voltages from 11 - 18V DC from the TP1 on >the DL1 unit. It seems to me that I need to be speaking into the mic. I >figure if I was checking the RF out in CW mode I would need to key the >keyer in some fashion. > >I know this seems like an elementary level question but I would really >like to verify the RF power out. > >Any information is greatly appreciated in advance. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Since the IBM Selectric, keyboards have gotten 408-356-8506 | steadily worse. Now we have touchscreen keyboards. www.pwpconsult.com | Can we make something even worse? From w7ox at socal.rr.com Wed Jun 8 05:31:11 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 02:31:11 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 RF out voltage measurements... In-Reply-To: <9dd532fb-4cf8-a760-61d5-e777ddac3102@sbcglobal.net> References: <9dd532fb-4cf8-a760-61d5-e777ddac3102@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <7aa5cc3f-5eb5-8818-3c93-84a2a3f7e40c@socal.rr.com> David, You'll likely get more help if you describe what is causing you to think you might have an RF out issue with your KX3. 73, Phil W7OX On 6/7/16 9:49 PM, David Davis wrote: > I might have an RF out issue with my KX3 but I am not sure how to test it. > > I have an Elecraft DL1 and a DMM that I figure I can use to check the RF > voltages and verify the power out. However, I am not sure of the exact > process on how to do this. If I am keying the mic on SSB do I need to > speak into the mic to be able to measure the voltages or just key the > mic with silence? I would assume I need to be speaking into the mic. > > The reason I ask this is because if I just key the mic with silence and > the radio set for 10W with a input power supply of 13.5V DC I measure > 4.7mv DC at the TP1 on the DL1 unit. > > If I speak into the mic I see voltages from 11 - 18V DC from the TP1 on > the DL1 unit. It seems to me that I need to be speaking into the mic. I > figure if I was checking the RF out in CW mode I would need to key the > keyer in some fashion. > > I know this seems like an elementary level question but I would really > like to verify the RF power out. > > Any information is greatly appreciated in advance. > > Thanks! > David > KG6MTI From plambert at qa.com.au Wed Jun 8 06:44:06 2016 From: plambert at qa.com.au (Peter Lambert) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 20:44:06 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping of KX2's In-Reply-To: References: <939CA5AC-7AA7-46D2-AA87-790746EA8969@bellsouth.net> <7C0EA72A588AE14D9F9B595663F9C7902FCE773F@HOBSVISEX05.nashville.org> Message-ID: <004801d1c172$afbb5f60$0f321e20$@qa.com.au> They learnt. It was a long wait on the KX3. Worth it though and happy to be in the queue. VK4JD -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ray Sills Sent: Wednesday, 8 June 2016 12:34 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping of KX2's Amen to that! I put my order in within hours of the ?opening of the order window?.. in late December, and received mine at the end of May. That was a long, long wait. But worth it. 73 de Ray K2ULR KX3 #211 > On Jun 7, 2016, at 9:35 PM, Nr4c wrote: > > Well you should have been around when the KX3 was introduced at Dayton. They didn't even start taking orders until very very late December and no shipping until April or May. Those were the days! > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to plambert at qa.com.au From thelastdb at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 08:02:31 2016 From: thelastdb at gmail.com (thelastdb) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2016 06:02:31 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 RF out voltage measurements... Message-ID: <6w4gj8g88f39wiqar1weelh0.1465387090345@email.android.com> David, Set the radio for 5W in the TUNE menu first. Then press the tune button. I make all of my power measurements with my KX3 set to 5W and TUNE. John and I use these DL1s extensively. Google KN5L DL1 and read up on the diode characterization and further reading about its use. 72Myron WV?HPrinted on Recycled Data?-------- Original message --------From: David Davis Date: 6/7/2016 10:49 PM (GMT-07:00) To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 RF out voltage measurements... I might have an RF out issue with my KX3 but I am not sure how to test it. I have an Elecraft DL1 and a DMM that I figure I can use to check the RF voltages and verify the power out. However, I am not sure of the exact process on how to do this. If I am keying the mic on SSB do I need to speak into the mic to be able to measure the voltages or just key the mic with silence? I would assume I need to be speaking into the mic. The reason I ask this is because if I just key the mic with silence and the radio set for 10W with a input power supply of 13.5V DC I measure 4.7mv DC at the TP1 on the DL1 unit. If I speak into the mic I see voltages from 11 - 18V DC from the TP1 on the DL1 unit. It seems to me that I need to be speaking into the mic. I figure if I was checking the RF out in CW mode I would need to key the keyer in some fashion. I know this seems like an elementary level question but I would really like to verify the RF power out. Any information is greatly appreciated in advance. Thanks! David KG6MTI ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to thelastdb at gmail.com From k5oai.sam at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 10:22:43 2016 From: k5oai.sam at gmail.com (Sam Morgan) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 09:22:43 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 8khz wide sig tracks VFO A ~30khz lower in frequency Message-ID: I have a 8-9 khz wide signal that follows my VFO A around. I saw this on 160m and also in 10m this morning. I haven't checked the other bands. Images can be seen here: https://picasaweb.google.com/k5oai.sam/6293813435183959297 No antenna was connected to the K3. The only cables connected to the P3 were: Coax and RS232 from K3. I attached the RS232 to the computer to get the snap shots, bet the signal did not change with it connected to the computer or not. Note: During the snapshots I bumped the VFO knob from 28.120 to 28.119.40 by mistake during the snapshots, but that doesn't have any effect on the fact there is this big wide scary 8-9khz wide signal ~ 30 khz down from VFO A that is tracking my main VFO. What is going on, has my K-Line been invaded by something? If so what and how do I fix it? -- GB & 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan John 3:16 Ephesians 2:8-9 1 Peter 2:24 Acts 2:38 From tarachwal at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 10:26:35 2016 From: tarachwal at gmail.com (Ted) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 10:26:35 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 DSP unit Message-ID: <22cdd0be-9b1d-7ef4-f695-383f06b90f57@gmail.com> I just bought a K2/100 (I now own 4 and a K3, KPA 500 and scope) and it came with DSP. I checked it out and it works FB but don't use DSP so the module is an extra now. Anyone wishing to own a DSP module for their K2 can buy mine for $165 which includes shipping within the USA. Please contact me at the above email address or via QRZ.com. 73, Ted K8AQM From kg6mti at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 8 11:42:57 2016 From: kg6mti at sbcglobal.net (David Davis) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 09:42:57 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 RF out voltage measurements... In-Reply-To: <7aa5cc3f-5eb5-8818-3c93-84a2a3f7e40c@socal.rr.com> References: <9dd532fb-4cf8-a760-61d5-e777ddac3102@sbcglobal.net> <7aa5cc3f-5eb5-8818-3c93-84a2a3f7e40c@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Phil. My testing started when I started to realize that I might not have any RF output. I started to believe this to be the situation when no matter what band or mode I tried I was no longer able to make a contact of any type while working portable. When I returned home and connected my KX3 back up to my KXPA100 I noticed that no matter what I set the KX3 output too the KXPA100 would effectively not put out anything. The 25w led would barely flicker when I would key up the radio. This caused me to believe the KX3 either had little to no RF output at all or barely enough to be able to drive the KXPA100. Thanks David KG6MTI Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 8, 2016, at 03:31, Phil Wheeler wrote: > > David, > > You'll likely get more help if you describe what is causing you to think you might have an RF out issue with your KX3. > > 73, Phil W7OX > >> On 6/7/16 9:49 PM, David Davis wrote: >> I might have an RF out issue with my KX3 but I am not sure how to test it. >> >> I have an Elecraft DL1 and a DMM that I figure I can use to check the RF >> voltages and verify the power out. However, I am not sure of the exact >> process on how to do this. If I am keying the mic on SSB do I need to >> speak into the mic to be able to measure the voltages or just key the >> mic with silence? I would assume I need to be speaking into the mic. >> >> The reason I ask this is because if I just key the mic with silence and >> the radio set for 10W with a input power supply of 13.5V DC I measure >> 4.7mv DC at the TP1 on the DL1 unit. >> >> If I speak into the mic I see voltages from 11 - 18V DC from the TP1 on >> the DL1 unit. It seems to me that I need to be speaking into the mic. I >> figure if I was checking the RF out in CW mode I would need to key the >> keyer in some fashion. >> >> I know this seems like an elementary level question but I would really >> like to verify the RF power out. >> >> Any information is greatly appreciated in advance. >> >> Thanks! >> David >> KG6MTI > From kg6mti at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 8 11:50:28 2016 From: kg6mti at sbcglobal.net (David Davis) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 09:50:28 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 RF out voltage measurements... In-Reply-To: <6w4gj8g88f39wiqar1weelh0.1465387090345@email.android.com> References: <6w4gj8g88f39wiqar1weelh0.1465387090345@email.android.com> Message-ID: <38B309E5-A89B-49DB-B550-8D8C8A7570F8@sbcglobal.net> Myron Thanks for the information. I believe this will help me with what I need to check. I will also check out your suggested reading it sounds like there is some valuable information there. Thanks David KG6MTI Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 8, 2016, at 06:02, thelastdb wrote: > > David, > > Set the radio for 5W in the TUNE menu first. Then press the tune button. I make all of my power measurements with my KX3 set to 5W and TUNE. > > John and I use these DL1s extensively. Google KN5L DL1 and read up on the diode characterization and further reading about its use. > > 72 > Myron WV?H > Printed on Recycled Data > -------- Original message -------- > From: David Davis > Date: 6/7/2016 10:49 PM (GMT-07:00) > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 RF out voltage measurements... > > I might have an RF out issue with my KX3 but I am not sure how to test it. > > I have an Elecraft DL1 and a DMM that I figure I can use to check the RF > voltages and verify the power out. However, I am not sure of the exact > process on how to do this. If I am keying the mic on SSB do I need to > speak into the mic to be able to measure the voltages or just key the > mic with silence? I would assume I need to be speaking into the mic. > > The reason I ask this is because if I just key the mic with silence and > the radio set for 10W with a input power supply of 13.5V DC I measure > 4.7mv DC at the TP1 on the DL1 unit. > > If I speak into the mic I see voltages from 11 - 18V DC from the TP1 on > the DL1 unit. It seems to me that I need to be speaking into the mic. I > figure if I was checking the RF out in CW mode I would need to key the > keyer in some fashion. > > I know this seems like an elementary level question but I would really > like to verify the RF power out. > > Any information is greatly appreciated in advance. > > Thanks! > David > KG6MTI > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to thelastdb at gmail.com From dbox at eagle1llc.com Wed Jun 8 11:55:29 2016 From: dbox at eagle1llc.com (David Box) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 10:55:29 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] [ELECRAFT][K3][P3] Macro Question on Noise Reduction Message-ID: <1d6b7dc6-91f6-4ba1-88a2-6b209bb84012@eagle1llc.com> I am trying to set up macros to use for different bands and modes changes. One thing that I cannot find how to do is to check on the status of a switched function and then set if needed. An example is that for changing to 20M SSB I would like to turn on Noise Reduction but the only way I can find to do that is using the SWT34 which toggles the function so that depending on the prior mode I have no knowledge if it is turned off or on. Noise Blanker has its own command but cannot find the equivalent for the Noise Reduction. Macro capability is pretty neat and just learning so any comments appreciated. Dave K5MWR From w7ox at socal.rr.com Wed Jun 8 11:59:07 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 08:59:07 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 RF out voltage measurements... In-Reply-To: References: <9dd532fb-4cf8-a760-61d5-e777ddac3102@sbcglobal.net> <7aa5cc3f-5eb5-8818-3c93-84a2a3f7e40c@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <81c9367d-9309-51c9-ee74-2142953c242a@socal.rr.com> David, If you have a dummy load and any sort of Wattmeter which can measure in 10-20 W range, that should tell you if you're getting NO power out. And make sure you have the power out dialed in at 10 watts or so in the KX3, not set to zero. 73, Phil W7OX On 6/8/16 8:42 AM, David Davis wrote: > Phil. > > My testing started when I started to realize that I might not have any RF output. > > I started to believe this to be the situation when no matter what band or mode I tried I was no longer able to make a contact of any type while working portable. > > When I returned home and connected my KX3 back up to my KXPA100 I noticed that no matter what I set the KX3 output too the KXPA100 would effectively not put out anything. The 25w led would barely flicker when I would key up the radio. This caused me to believe the KX3 either had little to no RF output at all or barely enough to be able to drive the KXPA100. > > Thanks > David > KG6MTI > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 8, 2016, at 03:31, Phil Wheeler wrote: >> >> David, >> >> You'll likely get more help if you describe what is causing you to think you might have an RF out issue with your KX3. >> >> 73, Phil W7OX >> >>> On 6/7/16 9:49 PM, David Davis wrote: >>> I might have an RF out issue with my KX3 but I am not sure how to test it. >>> >>> I have an Elecraft DL1 and a DMM that I figure I can use to check the RF >>> voltages and verify the power out. However, I am not sure of the exact >>> process on how to do this. If I am keying the mic on SSB do I need to >>> speak into the mic to be able to measure the voltages or just key the >>> mic with silence? I would assume I need to be speaking into the mic. >>> >>> The reason I ask this is because if I just key the mic with silence and >>> the radio set for 10W with a input power supply of 13.5V DC I measure >>> 4.7mv DC at the TP1 on the DL1 unit. >>> >>> If I speak into the mic I see voltages from 11 - 18V DC from the TP1 on >>> the DL1 unit. It seems to me that I need to be speaking into the mic. I >>> figure if I was checking the RF out in CW mode I would need to key the >>> keyer in some fashion. >>> >>> I know this seems like an elementary level question but I would really >>> like to verify the RF power out. >>> >>> Any information is greatly appreciated in advance. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> David >>> KG6MTI From jim.gmforum at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 12:09:21 2016 From: jim.gmforum at gmail.com (Jim GM) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 11:09:21 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 KXIO2 Power Consumption Q Message-ID: <5758432f.4e336b0a.66a7f.2dc2@mx.google.com> OK so if this board is not installed, how much power does the KX2 draw when turned off? Jim K9TF From bob.howitt123 at btinternet.com Wed Jun 8 12:53:28 2016 From: bob.howitt123 at btinternet.com (R HOWITT) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 16:53:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping of KX2's References: <1599847592.954583.1465404808113.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1599847592.954583.1465404808113.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I emailed the guys at Elecraft about my order on 2 June but have yet to get a reply. Ordered mine here in the UK from the importer here in the UK on 28 May during their open day. ? My question was more focused on when Elecraft will be dispatching ?to the UK. Can't help being eager to get my hands on such a good radio :-) 73s Bob, 2E0EBM From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Wed Jun 8 13:36:16 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 10:36:16 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Solar Charge Controllers (was Field Day) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes on all counts. This unit would be described as a simple hysteresis controller -- it doesn't pulse the charge current, it simply turns charging on if the battery voltage is less than full charge, turns charging off when that voltage is reached, and turns charging back on when battery voltage has dropped some pre-set amount. Chargers like this are, by their nature, free of RFI, because there's no square wave to generate RF trash. Several years ago, a local ham pointed me to this product, which does the same thing, but is rated for a lot less current. https://www.amazon.com/Sunforce-7-Amp-Charge-Controller/dp/B0006JO0XI/ref=sr_1_1?srs=2601531011&ie=UTF8&qid=1465406526&sr=8-1&keywords=solar+charge+controller The more efficient charge controllers of which Bill speaks are MPPT controllers; they have a DC-DC converter that converts the relatively high panel voltage at low current to lower voltage at the higher current that the battery can accept. This allows a large battery to accept more charge in a shorter period of time. By their nature, they use square waves, so they can be noisy, and most MPPT charge controllers ARE noisy. The Genesun MPPT controllers create very little RF noise, and won't be heard in most installations. My solar panels are next to my 160M antenna, so I need a choke on panel side of the controller to prevent noise pickup on that antenna. That's a pretty extreme condition. :) So I'd call the Genasun controllers RF quiet. 73, Jim K9YC On Tue,6/7/2016 6:12 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: > I have been using a solar charge controller from CIrKits > . The kit comes in a 20A version and > there are modification instructions for 40A, 60A, and 80A. I have the > 20A version and have noticed no RFI in my suburban QTH. The higher > current modifications change some of the circuit resistors to keep the > RFI low, so low RFI was one of the design goals. > > This controller feeds full panel current to the battery until the > voltage reaches the float voltage and then floats the battery at that > voltage. This techniqueis a good for lead-acid batteries but is > probably not appropriate for lithium family chemistries. > > It is also not the most efficient way to charge a lead-acid battery. > Higher efficiency can be achieved by charging at a slightly higher > voltage and only reducing the voltage to the float voltage when the > charge current becomes low. With my 7.5A rated panels, I can recover > the batteries charge in a day after spending a weekend contesting at > 100W, so the additional efficiency is not a major concern. The charge > system also works well on field day at QRP power levels. From kg9hfrank at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 13:56:33 2016 From: kg9hfrank at gmail.com (kg9hfrank at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 12:56:33 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 broadcast reception? In-Reply-To: <5758432f.4e336b0a.66a7f.2dc2@mx.google.com> References: <5758432f.4e336b0a.66a7f.2dc2@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <11931CE6-AB7B-4155-A461-40DBF58FFE08@gmail.com> Wondering if I should sell my K2 and get a KX2. Anyone know if you can receive the AM broadcast band? I can on my KX3 with the auto-tuner and wonder if there is any ability to listen to the broadcast band on a KX2. Frank KG9H From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Wed Jun 8 14:10:37 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 11:10:37 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 broadcast reception? In-Reply-To: <11931CE6-AB7B-4155-A461-40DBF58FFE08@gmail.com> References: <5758432f.4e336b0a.66a7f.2dc2@mx.google.com> <11931CE6-AB7B-4155-A461-40DBF58FFE08@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4cfa1a15-c89c-493f-5330-375cb286f64e@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Wed,6/8/2016 10:56 AM, kg9hfrank at gmail.com wrote: > wonder if there is any ability to listen to the broadcast band on a KX2. From the KX2 manual (which is online) Sensitivity (MDS), 500-Hz bandwidth -136 dBm (typ.), preamp on. Note: Sensitivity rolls off significantly below 3.0 MHz due to protective high-pass filtering. Preamp-on MDS is typically -105 dBm at 1.5 MHz, and -80 dBm at 1.0 MHz, sufficient for emergency AM broadcast signal copy. I interpret this to say that it's good enough to hear strong local signals, but it's not an AM DXer's receiver. The high pass filter has a turnover of 3 MHz, is 30 dB down at 1.5 MHz, and 56 dB down at 1 MHz. If you're looking for a nice AM BC RX, consider the Tecsun PL-660 and PL-880. 73, Jim K9YC From n6kr at elecraft.com Wed Jun 8 16:48:35 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 13:48:35 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 KXIO2 Power Consumption Q In-Reply-To: <5758432f.4e336b0a.66a7f.2dc2@mx.google.com> References: <5758432f.4e336b0a.66a7f.2dc2@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Zero. Wayne N6KR On Jun 8, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Jim GM wrote: > OK so if this board is not installed, how much power does the KX2 draw when turned off? > > Jim K9TF > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From plambert at qa.com.au Wed Jun 8 17:09:35 2016 From: plambert at qa.com.au (Peter Lambert) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 07:09:35 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 KXIO2 Power Consumption Q In-Reply-To: References: <5758432f.4e336b0a.66a7f.2dc2@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <004301d1c1ca$10f68140$32e383c0$@qa.com.au> Way less than the self-discharge of the cells. 30uA probably is too. 73's Peter VK4JD -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Thursday, 9 June 2016 6:49 AM To: Jim GM Cc: Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 KXIO2 Power Consumption Q Zero. Wayne N6KR On Jun 8, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Jim GM wrote: > OK so if this board is not installed, how much power does the KX2 draw when turned off? > > Jim K9TF > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > n6kr at elecraft.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to plambert at qa.com.au From matt at nq6n.com Wed Jun 8 17:23:37 2016 From: matt at nq6n.com (Matt Murphy) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 16:23:37 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Feature Requests Message-ID: I'm not sure if this is on the list of requested firmware features, so I'll mention it here just in case: Request 1: I'd like to be able to adjust the RX filter shift/width while transmitting. I often take a moment to assess things like passband, RIT, etc. when CQing during a contest, and if I'm extensively using the narrowest filter/shift to dig out weak signals, I like to revert to a wider passband for the next QSO. While I know I could do this using a CAT command, I'd like to be able to do it using the knob. Request 2: After using a Flex Maestro there is one clever feature that I think the K3 could incorporate via a small firmware change. The Maestro has a front panel knob that adjusts the AGC threshold. I find this useful because in some band conditions turning the knob feels like it makes a big improvement (different signal levels, static, etc.). I'd like to request that one of the K3's front-panel encoders be optionally made to adjust AGC threshold. Perhaps VFOB or the RIT knob -- perhaps both RIT and XIT lights could come on when that knob was in AGC THRESH mode. (maybe a knob on the K-Pod could be assigned to this as well... I don't own one yet). 73, Matt NQ6N From k6dgw at foothill.net Wed Jun 8 17:59:24 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 14:59:24 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Feature Requests In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Both would be neat ... however, the last time I checked, no one had yet invented "A Small Firmware" Change. :-) 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org On 6/8/2016 2:23 PM, Matt Murphy wrote: > I'm not sure if this is on the list of requested firmware features, so I'll > mention it here just in case: > > Request 1: I'd like to be able to adjust the RX filter shift/width while > transmitting. I often take a moment to assess things like passband, RIT, > etc. when CQing during a contest, and if I'm extensively using the > narrowest filter/shift to dig out weak signals, I like to revert to a wider > passband for the next QSO. While I know I could do this using a CAT > command, I'd like to be able to do it using the knob. > > Request 2: After using a Flex Maestro there is one clever feature that I > think the K3 could incorporate via a small firmware change. The Maestro > has a front panel knob that adjusts the AGC threshold. I find this useful > because in some band conditions turning the knob feels like it makes a big > improvement (different signal levels, static, etc.). I'd like to request > that one of the K3's front-panel encoders be optionally made to adjust AGC > threshold. Perhaps VFOB or the RIT knob -- perhaps both RIT and XIT lights > could come on when that knob was in AGC THRESH mode. (maybe a knob on the > K-Pod could be assigned to this as well... I don't own one yet). > > 73, > Matt NQ6N From nq5t at tx.rr.com Wed Jun 8 18:06:19 2016 From: nq5t at tx.rr.com (GRANT YOUNGMAN) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 17:06:19 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Feature Requests In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6DC2EEDB-4195-46F9-A739-89B28FA911E8@tx.rr.com> Anything you want is ?just a few lines of code? :) Grant NQ5T K3 #2091, KX3 #8342 > On Jun 8, 2016, at 4:59 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > > Both would be neat ... however, the last time I checked, no one had yet invented "A Small Firmware" Change. :-) > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > - Northern California Contest Club > - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 > - www.cqp.org > From dave at nk7z.net Wed Jun 8 18:54:11 2016 From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2016 15:54:11 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Feature Requests In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1465426451.30314.77.camel@nk7z.net> On Wed, 2016-06-08 at 16:23 -0500, Matt Murphy wrote: > Request 1: I'd like to be able to adjust the RX filter shift/width > while transmitting. I would like to second that request as well, with a bit of a modification... ?I find that I often will fire a macro off to the K3, and because it is in transmit mode, nothing happens... ?I used to do this with my Icom 756 PROIII. --? 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net From pfizenmayer at q.com Wed Jun 8 19:01:02 2016 From: pfizenmayer at q.com (HankP) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 19:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Feature Requests In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <622007139.2810301.1465426862407.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Number 1 is already there - unless you "DEMAND " that you do WHILE the computer is sending CQ or whatever . Just press WIDTH to select I or II . K7HP ----- Original Message ----- > I'm not sure if this is on the list of requested firmware features, so > I'll > mention it here just in case: > Request 1: I'd like to be able to adjust the RX filter shift/width > while > transmitting. I often take a moment to assess things like passband, > RIT, > etc. when CQing during a contest, and if I'm extensively using the > narrowest filter/shift to dig out weak signals, I like to revert to a > wider > passband for the next QSO. While I know I could do this using a CAT > command, I'd like to be able to do it using the knob. > Request 2: After using a Flex Maestro there is one clever feature that > I > think the K3 could incorporate via a small firmware change. The > Maestro > has a front panel knob that adjusts the AGC threshold. I find this > useful > because in some band conditions turning the knob feels like it makes a > big > improvement (different signal levels, static, etc.). I'd like to > request > that one of the K3's front-panel encoders be optionally made to adjust > AGC > threshold. Perhaps VFOB or the RIT knob -- perhaps both RIT and XIT > lights > could come on when that knob was in AGC THRESH mode. (maybe a knob on > the > K-Pod could be assigned to this as well... I don't own one yet). > 73, > Matt NQ6N > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to pfizenmayer at q.com From k7sss at aol.com Wed Jun 8 19:05:05 2016 From: k7sss at aol.com (k7sss at aol.com) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 19:05:05 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX2] DC Power Message-ID: <55de60.1868b110.4489fea0@aol.com> Two questions regarding the KX2. 1. Can the KXBC2 be used as a power supply, with appropriate adapter, to power the KX2? 2. Can someone explain why Elecraft used a Li-ion battery rather than other Lithium chemistries in the KX2? Some chemistries are safer than others. 73 Jim H From jim at n7us.net Wed Jun 8 19:44:48 2016 From: jim at n7us.net (Jim McDonald) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 18:44:48 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Feature Requests In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002701d1c1df$bf44cd00$3dce6700$@n7us.net> I see in the K3 & KX3 Programmer's Reference (page 16) that the AGC threshold, MN044 or MP044, is accessible via software. I have what DXLab calls user-defined sliders for AF and RF gain and power; maybe a similar slider could be created for AGC threshold. Or maybe a stepped macro for the radio or the K-Pod could be developed. 73, Jim N7US -----Original Message----- I'm not sure if this is on the list of requested firmware features, so I'll mention it here just in case: Request 1: I'd like to be able to adjust the RX filter shift/width while transmitting. I often take a moment to assess things like passband, RIT, etc. when CQing during a contest, and if I'm extensively using the narrowest filter/shift to dig out weak signals, I like to revert to a wider passband for the next QSO. While I know I could do this using a CAT command, I'd like to be able to do it using the knob. Request 2: After using a Flex Maestro there is one clever feature that I think the K3 could incorporate via a small firmware change. The Maestro has a front panel knob that adjusts the AGC threshold. I find this useful because in some band conditions turning the knob feels like it makes a big improvement (different signal levels, static, etc.). I'd like to request that one of the K3's front-panel encoders be optionally made to adjust AGC threshold. Perhaps VFOB or the RIT knob -- perhaps both RIT and XIT lights could come on when that knob was in AGC THRESH mode. (maybe a knob on the K-Pod could be assigned to this as well... I don't own one yet). 73, Matt NQ6N From gallsup at whoi.edu Wed Jun 8 20:46:32 2016 From: gallsup at whoi.edu (geoff allsup) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 20:46:32 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FOR SALE: Elecraft K2, serial #6099 Message-ID: For Sale ? Elecraft K2/10 Transceiver, Serial #6099 Includes the following options: K160RX 160M option with 2nd RX antenna port KNB2 High Performance Noise Blanker KAF2 Audio Filter and Real-time Clock KAT2 Internal Antenna Tuner with 2 Antenna ports KIO2 RS232 Interface and Aux IO with cable KBT2 Internal Battery (battery new in 2014) KSB2 SSB Adapter (unbuilt) MH2 Microphone Pelican #1450 Case Total Value = $1600+, *asking $850 (incl. shipping/insurance)* Cashier's check or PayPal Please contact me direct if interested. geoff - W1OH -- ******************************************************************* Geoff Allsup, W1OH gallsup at whoi.edu or w1oh at whoi.edu Senior Engineer Upper Ocean Processes Group Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Woods Hole, MA, USA ******************************************************************* From pubx1 at af2z.net Wed Jun 8 21:13:00 2016 From: pubx1 at af2z.net (Drew AF2Z) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 21:13:00 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Feature Requests In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5758C29C.2000609@af2z.net> Regarding a front panel knob for AGC threshold adjustment, I have assigned AGC Threshold and Slope as keyswitch macros to M1 tap & M1 hold respectively. Then it's just a matter of selecting either and turning VFO A to adjust. 73, Drew AF2Z On 06/08/16 17:23, Matt Murphy wrote: > I'm not sure if this is on the list of requested firmware features, so I'll > mention it here just in case: > > Request 1: I'd like to be able to adjust the RX filter shift/width while > transmitting. I often take a moment to assess things like passband, RIT, > etc. when CQing during a contest, and if I'm extensively using the > narrowest filter/shift to dig out weak signals, I like to revert to a wider > passband for the next QSO. While I know I could do this using a CAT > command, I'd like to be able to do it using the knob. > > Request 2: After using a Flex Maestro there is one clever feature that I > think the K3 could incorporate via a small firmware change. The Maestro > has a front panel knob that adjusts the AGC threshold. I find this useful > because in some band conditions turning the knob feels like it makes a big > improvement (different signal levels, static, etc.). I'd like to request > that one of the K3's front-panel encoders be optionally made to adjust AGC > threshold. Perhaps VFOB or the RIT knob -- perhaps both RIT and XIT lights > could come on when that knob was in AGC THRESH mode. (maybe a knob on the > K-Pod could be assigned to this as well... I don't own one yet). > > 73, > Matt NQ6N > ______________________________________________________________ > From ke6te.9 at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 22:10:27 2016 From: ke6te.9 at gmail.com (George Rebong) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 19:10:27 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] MAC logging software Message-ID: Looking for a nice MAC logging software that I can use for my K3/K2. Any recommendations that you would like to share. Thank you. From vk5zm at bistre.net Wed Jun 8 22:12:20 2016 From: vk5zm at bistre.net (Matthew Cook) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 11:42:20 +0930 Subject: [Elecraft] MAC logging software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: MacLoggerDX from Dog Park Software. Can't go wrong. 73 Matthew VK5ZM On 9 June 2016 at 11:40, George Rebong wrote: > Looking for a nice MAC logging software that I can use for my K3/K2. Any > recommendations that you would like to share. > Thank you. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to vk5zm at bistre.net > From va3mw at portcredit.net Wed Jun 8 22:21:15 2016 From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 22:21:15 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] MAC logging software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yep... Dog Park stuff is pretty good. Mike va3mw On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 10:12 PM, Matthew Cook wrote: > MacLoggerDX from Dog Park Software. > > Can't go wrong. > > 73 > > Matthew > VK5ZM > > On 9 June 2016 at 11:40, George Rebong wrote: > > > Looking for a nice MAC logging software that I can use for my K3/K2. Any > > recommendations that you would like to share. > > Thank you. > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to vk5zm at bistre.net > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to va3mw at portcredit.net > From phystad at mac.com Wed Jun 8 22:41:40 2016 From: phystad at mac.com (Phil Hystad) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2016 19:41:40 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] MAC logging software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ditto! Phil, K7PEH > On Jun 8, 2016, at 7:21 PM, Michael Walker wrote: > > Yep... Dog Park stuff is pretty good. > > Mike va3mw > > > On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 10:12 PM, Matthew Cook wrote: > >> MacLoggerDX from Dog Park Software. >> >> Can't go wrong. >> >> 73 >> >> Matthew >> VK5ZM >> >> On 9 June 2016 at 11:40, George Rebong wrote: >> >>> Looking for a nice MAC logging software that I can use for my K3/K2. Any >>> recommendations that you would like to share. >>> Thank you. >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to vk5zm at bistre.net >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to va3mw at portcredit.net >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to phystad at mac.com From kg6mti at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 8 22:58:18 2016 From: kg6mti at sbcglobal.net (David Davis) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 20:58:18 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 RF out voltage measurements... In-Reply-To: <6w4gj8g88f39wiqar1weelh0.1465387090345@email.android.com> References: <6w4gj8g88f39wiqar1weelh0.1465387090345@email.android.com> Message-ID: Myron, Thank you very much for the information. It helped me check the RF output on my KX3. I was able to determine that the power output is exactly where it should be. That is why I really enjoy this mailing list. There are good people here that always offer great help. In the end the issue appears to be caused by the ribbon cable that connects the two halves of the radio. I had opened the radio a few days before the last time I had used it. I must have knocked the cable loose. While I was checking the radio I checked the connections of the cable and it was loose. After I got the radio back together I used your suggestions and the measurements were perfect. I also Googled your website. It was like finding a gold mine. There is all kinds of good information on your site. Thank you, David KG6MTI On 6/8/16 6:02 AM, thelastdb wrote: > David, > > Set the radio for 5W in the TUNE menu first. Then press the tune > button. I make all of my power measurements with my KX3 set to 5W and > TUNE. > > John and I use these DL1s extensively. Google KN5L DL1 and read up on > the diode characterization and further reading about its use. > > 72 > Myron WV?H > Printed on Recycled Data > -------- Original message -------- > From: David Davis > Date: 6/7/2016 10:49 PM (GMT-07:00) > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 RF out voltage measurements... > > I might have an RF out issue with my KX3 but I am not sure how to test it. > > I have an Elecraft DL1 and a DMM that I figure I can use to check the RF > voltages and verify the power out. However, I am not sure of the exact > process on how to do this. If I am keying the mic on SSB do I need to > speak into the mic to be able to measure the voltages or just key the > mic with silence? I would assume I need to be speaking into the mic. > > The reason I ask this is because if I just key the mic with silence and > the radio set for 10W with a input power supply of 13.5V DC I measure > 4.7mv DC at the TP1 on the DL1 unit. > > If I speak into the mic I see voltages from 11 - 18V DC from the TP1 on > the DL1 unit. It seems to me that I need to be speaking into the mic. I > figure if I was checking the RF out in CW mode I would need to key the > keyer in some fashion. > > I know this seems like an elementary level question but I would really > like to verify the RF power out. > > Any information is greatly appreciated in advance. > > Thanks! > David > KG6MTI > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to thelastdb at gmail.com From va3ma at me.com Wed Jun 8 23:03:09 2016 From: va3ma at me.com (D Howard) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2016 23:03:09 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] MAC logging software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2AAB7778-13FC-490F-B2DF-548AA95F81DF@me.com> Have a look at RUMlogNG Excellent , comprehensive and free! Constantly being updated with features and cat to new rigs 73 Dan VA3MA On 2016-06-08, at 22:10, George Rebong wrote: Looking for a nice MAC logging software that I can use for my K3/K2. Any recommendations that you would like to share. Thank you. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to va3ma at me.com From n1ho at yahoo.com Wed Jun 8 23:06:32 2016 From: n1ho at yahoo.com (Bayard Coolidge, N1HO) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 03:06:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] MAC logging software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1823731257.177667.1465441592994.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I've been enjoying RUMlogNG with my K3: RUMLog Next Generation | | | RUMLog Next Generation | | | Tom, DL2RUM, also has a smaller version, "RUMped" originally designed forholiday/DXpedition use,?that I've used for contest logging. Also, there aresome web pages out there that describe how to?integrate RUMLogNG and fldigi. 73 de N1HO From n9aa at arrl.net Wed Jun 8 23:06:49 2016 From: n9aa at arrl.net (Scott Manthe) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 23:06:49 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] MAC logging software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You'll get recommendations for MacLoggerDX, and it is nice software, but it's also $95. I recommend RUMLog, which does just about everything MLDX does, but its free (or whatever you choose to donate). There is a contest version, called RUMped as well as versions for the iPad/iPhone and they all can be downloaded here: http://www.dl2rum.de/rumsoft/RUMsoft_Home.html Rather than charge you $95 up front, DL2RUM allows you to decide for yourself how much the programs are worth to you and there's a Paypal donation button on the page, if you decide you like the programs. I do like them, so I donate once a year. You might decide you like MacLoggerDX and that it's worth the $95, but I'd suggest trying the RUMlog offerings first. 73, Scott N9AA On 6/8/16 10:10 PM, George Rebong wrote: > Looking for a nice MAC logging software that I can use for my K3/K2. Any recommendations that you would like to share. > Thank you. From thelastdb at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 23:32:00 2016 From: thelastdb at gmail.com (Myron Schaffer) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 21:32:00 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 RF out voltage measurements... In-Reply-To: References: <6w4gj8g88f39wiqar1weelh0.1465387090345@email.android.com> Message-ID: <5758e330.4c206b0a.d9d5e.6d85@mx.google.com> David, I?m glad you got it resolved. Myron WV0H Printed on Recycled Data From: David Davis Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 8:58 PM To: thelastdb; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 RF out voltage measurements... Myron, Thank you very much for the information. It helped me check the RF output on my KX3. I was able to determine that the power output is exactly where it should be. That is why I really enjoy this mailing list. There are good people here that always offer great help. In the end the issue appears to be caused by the ribbon cable that connects the two halves of the radio. I had opened the radio a few days before the last time I had used it. I must have knocked the cable loose. While I was checking the radio I checked the connections of the cable and it was loose. After I got the radio back together I used your suggestions and the measurements were perfect. I also Googled your website. It was like finding a gold mine. There is all kinds of good information on your site. Thank you, David KG6MTI On 6/8/16 6:02 AM, thelastdb wrote: David, Set the radio for 5W in the TUNE menu first. Then press the tune button. I make all of my power measurements with my KX3 set to 5W and TUNE. John and I use these DL1s extensively. Google KN5L DL1 and read up on the diode characterization and further reading about its use. 72 Myron WV?H Printed on Recycled Data? -------- Original message -------- From: David Davis Date: 6/7/2016 10:49 PM (GMT-07:00) To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 RF out voltage measurements... I might have an RF out issue with my KX3 but I am not sure how to test it. I have an Elecraft DL1 and a DMM that I figure I can use to check the RF voltages and verify the power out. However, I am not sure of the exact process on how to do this. If I am keying the mic on SSB do I need to speak into the mic to be able to measure the voltages or just key the mic with silence? I would assume I need to be speaking into the mic. The reason I ask this is because if I just key the mic with silence and the radio set for 10W with a input power supply of 13.5V DC I measure 4.7mv DC at the TP1 on the DL1 unit. If I speak into the mic I see voltages from 11 - 18V DC from the TP1 on the DL1 unit. It seems to me that I need to be speaking into the mic. I figure if I was checking the RF out in CW mode I would need to key the keyer in some fashion. I know this seems like an elementary level question but I would really like to verify the RF power out. Any information is greatly appreciated in advance. Thanks! David KG6MTI ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to thelastdb at gmail.com From jackbrindle at me.com Wed Jun 8 23:42:57 2016 From: jackbrindle at me.com (Jack Brindle) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2016 20:42:57 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Solar Charge Controllers (was Field Day) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1C270A02-3957-4F2D-A6B1-D57E69266B87@me.com> Thee is an issue with the cheaper solar controllers - they tend to place the switching transistor in the ground leg, making connections difficult. For example the Sunforce controller that Jim mentions uses an N-channel FET as its pass transistor, in the ground lead. If you then connect the radio or other load to the battery while it is being charged, you can end up with a floating ground. One local solar expert discovered that his setup of this kind caused massive current flow on the shield connection of a USB cable - it was essentially carrying all the ground current! The better controllers use P-channel FETs in the positive leg of the charger, as shown in Mike Bryce (WB8VGE)?s design in the ARRL publication ?Emergency Power For Radio Communications? and also in the CirKits design that Bill mentions. I have a pair of each of these and will be using them this Field Day to keep a pair of Marine deep-cycle batteries charged from a 100 watt solar array and also a 45 watt backup array. I like the WB8VGE design better, but it won?t handle the 100 watt array without modification, which caused me to pick up the CCS3 boards. Unfortunately the WB8VGE kits appear to no longer be available, but the CirKits boards (also designed and sold by a ham, forgot his call) are very much available and a fun build. - Jack, W6FB P.S. Listen for both Bill, myself and many others from the WVARA operation at Mora Hill, CA using the call K6EI in FD. It is an all-K3/QRP operation with outstanding antennas in a location you have to see to believe. And, if you are in the area and searching for a place to play, look us up! > On Jun 8, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > > Yes on all counts. This unit would be described as a simple hysteresis controller -- it doesn't pulse the charge current, it simply turns charging on if the battery voltage is less than full charge, turns charging off when that voltage is reached, and turns charging back on when battery voltage has dropped some pre-set amount. Chargers like this are, by their nature, free of RFI, because there's no square wave to generate RF trash. Several years ago, a local ham pointed me to this product, which does the same thing, but is rated for a lot less current. > > https://www.amazon.com/Sunforce-7-Amp-Charge-Controller/dp/B0006JO0XI/ref=sr_1_1?srs=2601531011&ie=UTF8&qid=1465406526&sr=8-1&keywords=solar+charge+controller > > The more efficient charge controllers of which Bill speaks are MPPT controllers; they have a DC-DC converter that converts the relatively high panel voltage at low current to lower voltage at the higher current that the battery can accept. This allows a large battery to accept more charge in a shorter period of time. By their nature, they use square waves, so they can be noisy, and most MPPT charge controllers ARE noisy. The Genesun MPPT controllers create very little RF noise, and won't be heard in most installations. My solar panels are next to my 160M antenna, so I need a choke on panel side of the controller to prevent noise pickup on that antenna. That's a pretty extreme condition. :) So I'd call the Genasun controllers RF quiet. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > On Tue,6/7/2016 6:12 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: >> I have been using a solar charge controller from CIrKits . The kit comes in a 20A version and there are modification instructions for 40A, 60A, and 80A. I have the 20A version and have noticed no RFI in my suburban QTH. The higher current modifications change some of the circuit resistors to keep the RFI low, so low RFI was one of the design goals. >> >> This controller feeds full panel current to the battery until the voltage reaches the float voltage and then floats the battery at that voltage. This techniqueis a good for lead-acid batteries but is probably not appropriate for lithium family chemistries. >> >> It is also not the most efficient way to charge a lead-acid battery. Higher efficiency can be achieved by charging at a slightly higher voltage and only reducing the voltage to the float voltage when the charge current becomes low. With my 7.5A rated panels, I can recover the batteries charge in a day after spending a weekend contesting at 100W, so the additional efficiency is not a major concern. The charge system also works well on field day at QRP power levels. > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jackbrindle at me.com From n7rjn at nobis.net Thu Jun 9 00:14:42 2016 From: n7rjn at nobis.net (Robert Nobis) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 21:14:42 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] MAC logging software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <339D90E5-E0FB-43E7-A1B0-C525D725FBDB@nobis.net> I agree, MacLoggerDX from Dog Park Software is great. Bob Nobis - N7RJN n7rjn at nobis.net > On Jun 8, 2016, at 19:10, George Rebong wrote: > > Looking for a nice MAC logging software that I can use for my K3/K2. Any recommendations that you would like to share. > Thank you. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n7rjn at nobis.net > From nf4l at comcast.net Thu Jun 9 08:29:04 2016 From: nf4l at comcast.net (Mike Reublin NF4L) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 08:29:04 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] MAC logging software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <140D3914-EEDF-4734-994A-AB9F9317E534@comcast.net> RUMLogNG has about 75 pre-defined contests. I think RUMPed is sorta deprecated. 73, Mike NF4L > On Jun 8, 2016, at 11:06 PM, Scott Manthe wrote: > > You'll get recommendations for MacLoggerDX, and it is nice software, but it's also $95. I recommend RUMLog, which does just about everything MLDX does, but its free (or whatever you choose to donate). There is a contest version, called RUMped as well as versions for the iPad/iPhone and they all can be downloaded here: > http://www.dl2rum.de/rumsoft/RUMsoft_Home.html > > Rather than charge you $95 up front, DL2RUM allows you to decide for yourself how much the programs are worth to you and there's a Paypal donation button on the page, if you decide you like the programs. I do like them, so I donate once a year. You might decide you like MacLoggerDX and that it's worth the $95, but I'd suggest trying the RUMlog offerings first. > > 73, > Scott N9AA > > > On 6/8/16 10:10 PM, George Rebong wrote: >> Looking for a nice MAC logging software that I can use for my K3/K2. Any recommendations that you would like to share. >> Thank you. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nf4l at comcast.net From joel.b.black at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 08:40:45 2016 From: joel.b.black at gmail.com (Joel Black) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 07:40:45 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] MAC logging software In-Reply-To: <140D3914-EEDF-4734-994A-AB9F9317E534@comcast.net> References: <140D3914-EEDF-4734-994A-AB9F9317E534@comcast.net> Message-ID: Mike, NF4L, is correct. RUMlogNG is the version to use for daily and contest logging. I asked that question on the forums and Tom, DL2RUM? (The author), told me that. 73, Joel - W4JBB On Thursday, June 9, 2016, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote: > RUMLogNG has about 75 pre-defined contests. I think RUMPed is sorta > deprecated. > > 73, Mike NF4L > > > On Jun 8, 2016, at 11:06 PM, Scott Manthe > > wrote: > > > > You'll get recommendations for MacLoggerDX, and it is nice software, but > it's also $95. I recommend RUMLog, which does just about everything MLDX > does, but its free (or whatever you choose to donate). There is a contest > version, called RUMped as well as versions for the iPad/iPhone and they all > can be downloaded here: > > http://www.dl2rum.de/rumsoft/RUMsoft_Home.html > > > > Rather than charge you $95 up front, DL2RUM allows you to decide for > yourself how much the programs are worth to you and there's a Paypal > donation button on the page, if you decide you like the programs. I do like > them, so I donate once a year. You might decide you like MacLoggerDX and > that it's worth the $95, but I'd suggest trying the RUMlog offerings first. > > > > 73, > > Scott N9AA > > > > > > On 6/8/16 10:10 PM, George Rebong wrote: > >> Looking for a nice MAC logging software that I can use for my K3/K2. > Any recommendations that you would like to share. > >> Thank you. > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to nf4l at comcast.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to joel.b.black at gmail.com > From lightdazzled at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 09:16:10 2016 From: lightdazzled at gmail.com (Chip Stratton) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 08:16:10 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX2] DC Power In-Reply-To: <55de60.1868b110.4489fea0@aol.com> References: <55de60.1868b110.4489fea0@aol.com> Message-ID: As for #2, I surmise their reasoning includes: 1. Higher energy density for greater capacity for a given size and weight compared to other lithium chemistries 2. Safe when charged and discharged responsibly, ergo the charger specified to go with it, protection circuitry within the battery pack, and KX2 shutdown with low voltage states. No doubt they expect ham radio licensees to behave responsibly considering the knowledge they are expected to have. 3. The knowledge that lithium ion technology has a good safety record in laptops and cell phones, despite the very rare but widely publicized instances of battery failures that are almost always the result of improper charging or trauma. Those that are still concerned have the option of using an external battery, or cobbling together their own internal battery pack with the chemistry of their choice. It wouldn't be hard. Chip AE5KA On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 6:05 PM, Jim H via Elecraft wrote: > Two questions regarding the KX2. > 1. Can the KXBC2 be used as a power supply, with appropriate adapter, to > power the KX2? > 2. Can someone explain why Elecraft used a Li-ion battery rather than > other Lithium chemistries in the KX2? > Some chemistries are safer than others. > > 73 > Jim H > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to lightdazzled at gmail.com > From jim.gmforum at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 10:33:21 2016 From: jim.gmforum at gmail.com (Jim GM) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 09:33:21 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 KXIO2 Power Consumption Q Message-ID: <57597e30.46986b0a.6def4.ffff97b3@mx.google.com> So with the new card installed it would take over 83000 hours to drain the battery. WOW that?s 3458 days almost 9 years. Jim K9TF From w2blc at nycap.rr.com Thu Jun 9 10:37:59 2016 From: w2blc at nycap.rr.com (Bill) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 10:37:59 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3: K-pod Message-ID: <6069f224-7ced-348f-b8d5-57e94fc5535c@nycap.rr.com> Only six days before shipping??? Sure hope so. Looks like a great add-on. Bill W2BLC K-Line From jimfinan at att.net Thu Jun 9 10:38:54 2016 From: jimfinan at att.net (Jim Finan) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2016 10:38:54 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX2] DC Power In-Reply-To: References: <55de60.1868b110.4489fea0@aol.com> Message-ID: <20160609143854.5869650.92848.40790@att.net> Not all the Li Battery problems are from mishandling.? ? Sony had to eat a bunch of notebook batteries a few years ago because of improper safety protection (internally). Nikon ate a bunch of their lithium battery cells for the same reason. Nvidia recalled all their early tablets about 6 months ago for the same reason. ?These are recalls I've had to contend with. There are many more.? Basically the issue was that at least some Chinese (maybe others as well) manufacturers were cutting corners - something you can't get away with on li batteries.? Ordered my KX2 very soon after the order site went a?ctive and received it about 3 days later. But - I didn't order the batteries until more info was released about them, several days later.? There was someone on this reflector that had a Li battery fail in an energetic way some months back. I'm sure it is in the archives.? >From what has been posted here, the least problematic (most stable?) chemistry appears to by LiFePhosphate. K9YC (Jim) ?recommends them after he evaluated the situation.? ?Li batteries have been banned from the cargo hold of passenger aircraft because of potential problems. Plus, they aren't easily extinguished when the do have an energetic reaction.? 73, Jim Jim?Finan AB4AC? Sent?from?my?BlackBerry?10?smartphone. ? Original Message ? From: Chip Stratton Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 9:18 AM To: k7sss at aol.com; Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX2] DC Power As for #2, I surmise their reasoning includes: 1. Higher energy density for greater capacity for a given size and weight compared to other lithium chemistries 2. Safe when charged and discharged responsibly, ergo the charger specified to go with it, protection circuitry within the battery pack, and KX2 shutdown with low voltage states. No doubt they expect ham radio licensees to behave responsibly considering the knowledge they are expected to have. 3. The knowledge that lithium ion technology has a good safety record in laptops and cell phones, despite the very rare but widely publicized instances of battery failures that are almost always the result of improper charging or trauma. Those that are still concerned have the option of using an external battery, or cobbling together their own internal battery pack with the chemistry of their choice. It wouldn't be hard. Chip AE5KA On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 6:05 PM, Jim H via Elecraft wrote: > Two questions regarding the KX2. > 1. Can the KXBC2 be used as a power supply, with appropriate adapter, to > power the KX2? > 2. Can someone explain why Elecraft used a Li-ion battery rather than > other Lithium chemistries in the KX2? > Some chemistries are safer than others. > > 73 > Jim H > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to lightdazzled at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jimfinan at att.net From kd1na363 at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 10:43:58 2016 From: kd1na363 at gmail.com (David Robertson) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 10:43:58 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100 Keying Mod Message-ID: Everyone. I had an interesting experience recently. I have a KX3 and KXPA100 ( #519 ) operating in my workshop in my basement. The rig drives my Heathkit SB220 which has the Harbach soft key mod which has less then 1 volt keying voltage. This allows me to run up to 1000 watts no problem. A couple of weeks ago a friend brought me his home brew linear to test. Before connecting his linear to my KPA100 output I checked the schematic and measured the keying voltage on his linear which was 24 volts dc at less then 100 ma. When i connected the key line from his linear to the RCA jack on the KXPA100 interface cable the linear went to key down without any transmit command from the KX3. I then disconnected the KXPA100 from my KX3 and using the Elecraft keying interface cable to the linear directly from the KX3, the linear keyed up upon transmit commands from the KX3 normally. Well I finished testing my friends linear with 10 watts drive and everything worked fine despite reduced output power. Later I emailed Elecraft Support and asked them about the KXPA100 keying problem. I quickly got a response and a solution to the problem. It seems that the first manufactured KXPA100 linears below serial number 700 were designed to operate the KPA500 linear which has only a 5 volt keying voltage. Evidently,There was some problems with keying linear amplifiers with higher keying voltages so after KXPA100 serial number 700 and above Elecraft modified the keying circuit to accommodate linear amps with keying voltages up to 30 volts. I either missed the memo or Elecraft didn't contact those of us about this problem. Elecraft now has a mod kit that solved the keying problem. The kit part number is KXPAMDKT2 and is free. It consists of a 4.7K 1/4 watt ressistor (E500158) and a diode BV19WSTPMS diode (E560076). The diode is surface mount and the resistor is a leaded resistor. The instructions are clear but some may have problems in removing a surface mount resistor (R28) and installing the diode in its place. The resistor in the kit solders to existing components. The reason I am putting out this information is because I didn't know of the limitations of the KXPA 100's keying input circuit and could have easily blown that circuit out. Thanks for the bandwidth. 73 Dave Robertson KD1NA From riese-k3djc at juno.com Thu Jun 9 10:53:15 2016 From: riese-k3djc at juno.com (riese-k3djc at juno.com) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 10:53:15 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100 Keying Mod Message-ID: Heathkit SB220 or at least my 221 keys from the bias voltage,,, ??? 130 vo;ts or so I did a complete install of all the Harbach updates and this makes for a very stable amp. The heath line of anps are a deal,,, 3 to 500 bux as opposed to 3500 for newer amps Bob K3DJC On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 10:43:58 -0400 David Robertson writes: > Everyone. > > I had an interesting experience recently. I have a KX3 and KXPA100 ( > #519 ) > operating in my workshop in my basement. The rig drives my Heathkit > SB220 > which has the Harbach soft key mod which has less then 1 volt > keying > voltage. This allows me to run up to 1000 watts no problem. > > A couple of weeks ago a friend brought me his home brew linear to > test. > Before connecting his linear to my KPA100 output I checked the > schematic > and measured the keying voltage on his linear which was 24 volts dc > at less > then 100 ma. When i connected the key line from his linear to the > RCA jack > on the KXPA100 interface cable the linear went to key down without > any > transmit command from the KX3. I then disconnected the KXPA100 from > my KX3 > and using the Elecraft keying interface cable to the linear directly > from > the KX3, the linear keyed up upon transmit commands from the KX3 > normally. > Well I finished testing my friends linear with 10 watts drive and > everything worked fine despite reduced output power. > > Later I emailed Elecraft Support and asked them about the KXPA100 > keying > problem. > I quickly got a response and a solution to the problem. > > It seems that the first manufactured KXPA100 linears below serial > number > 700 were designed to operate the KPA500 linear which has only a 5 > volt > keying voltage. Evidently,There was some problems with keying > linear > amplifiers with higher keying voltages so after KXPA100 serial > number 700 > and above Elecraft modified the keying circuit to accommodate linear > amps > with keying voltages up to 30 volts. > > I either missed the memo or Elecraft didn't contact those of us > about this > problem. Elecraft now has a mod kit that solved the keying problem. > The kit > part number is KXPAMDKT2 and is free. It consists of a 4.7K 1/4 > watt > ressistor (E500158) and a diode BV19WSTPMS diode (E560076). The diode > is > surface mount and the resistor is a leaded resistor. The > instructions are > clear but some may have problems in removing a surface mount > resistor (R28) > and installing the diode in its place. The resistor in the kit > solders to > existing components. > > The reason I am putting out this information is because I didn't > know of > the limitations of the KXPA 100's keying input circuit and could > have > easily blown that circuit out. Thanks for the bandwidth. > 73 > > Dave Robertson KD1NA > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to riese-k3djc at juno.com > From rick.prather at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 11:06:57 2016 From: rick.prather at gmail.com (Rick Prather) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 08:06:57 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] MAC logging software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1A6BFCBE-7D77-4743-8495-232CAB380D6B@gmail.com> If you are using a K3 the K3 and P3 control screens in RUMLogNG are hard to beat on any platform. Also, if you are a DX?er it does a superior job of tracking and displaying DXCC slots and their status. RUMlogNG also has much better integration with LotW and doesn?t require you to use a 3rd party utility to do one-click LotW downloads. It also does a far better job tracking QSL?s by either paper or LotW. The DX Spot screen of RMLNG is very well done and does a better job of displaying needed DXCC entities and Slots needed that any other logger, even the best Windows loggers. I have used all three major Mac loggers over several years and RUMLogNG is the way to go for a DX?er and especially one that runs the K3. Rick K6LE > On 6/8/2016, at 19:10 , George Rebong wrote: > > Looking for a nice MAC logging software that I can use for my K3/K2. Any recommendations that you would like to share. > Thank you. From rprather at mac.com Thu Jun 9 11:21:00 2016 From: rprather at mac.com (Rick Prather) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 08:21:00 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] MAC logging software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you are using a K3 the K3 and P3 control screens in RUMLogNG are hard to beat on any platform. Also, if you are a DX?er it does a superior job of tracking and displaying DXCC slots and their status. RUMlogNG also has much better integration with LotW and doesn?t require you to use a 3rd party utility to do one-click LotW downloads. It also does a far better job tracking QSL?s by either paper or LotW. The DX Spot screen of RMLNG is very well done and does a better job of displaying needed DXCC entities and Slots needed that any other logger, even the best Windows loggers. I have used all three major Mac loggers over several years and RUMLogNG is the way to go for a DX?er and especially one that runs the K3. Rick K6LE On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 7:10 PM, George Rebong wrote: > Looking for a nice MAC logging software that I can use for my K3/K2. Any > recommendations that you would like to share. > Thank you. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rick.prather at gmail.com > From eric at elecraft.com Thu Jun 9 11:45:16 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 08:45:16 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 8khz wide sig tracks VFO A ~30khz lower in frequency In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2b179453-978e-360b-a4b4-5084be4026fb@elecraft.com> Check the connections on the BNC cable between your K3 and P3 and re-seat them. Also, if you have an extra BNC-BNC cable, try replacing this cable. Also, if this BNC is run near switching power supplies etc. it can pick up noise like this. 73, Eric /elecraft.com/ On 6/8/2016 7:22 AM, Sam Morgan wrote: > I have a 8-9 khz wide signal that follows my VFO A around. I saw this on 160m > and also in 10m this morning. I haven't checked the other bands. > > Images can be seen here: > https://picasaweb.google.com/k5oai.sam/6293813435183959297 > > No antenna was connected to the K3. The only cables connected to the P3 were: > Coax and RS232 from K3. I attached the RS232 to the computer to get the snap > shots, bet the signal did not change with it connected to the computer or not. > > Note: During the snapshots I bumped the VFO knob from 28.120 to 28.119.40 by > mistake during the snapshots, but that doesn't have any effect on the fact > there is this big wide scary 8-9khz wide signal ~ 30 khz down from VFO A that > is tracking my main VFO. > > What is going on, has my K-Line been invaded by something? If so what and how > do I fix it? > From hk3w.inf at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 13:31:03 2016 From: hk3w.inf at gmail.com (Francisco "Siso" Hennessey HK3W) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 12:31:03 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod Info Message-ID: Will be great to know how to connect K-Pod before purchase it. I have K3S + KAT500 + KPA500 + P3 + MicrohamII + SP3 x 2 and I don't see where to connnect it. Any advice will be aprreciated Regards, Siso HK3W _____________________________________________________________________ *Francisco "Siso" Hennessey - H K 3 W ---* *ARRL DXCC Card Checker* *DXCC HR - DXCC CW - DXCC RTTY -DXCC SSB - 8BDXCC -** | * Skype: siso-hk3w | *Twitter: **http://twitter.com/HK3W *| *Member of: **ARRL (LM) - LoTW -* From k5oai.sam at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 13:38:03 2016 From: k5oai.sam at gmail.com (Sam Morgan) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 12:38:03 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 8khz wide sig tracks VFO A ~30khz lower in frequency (SOLVED) In-Reply-To: <2b179453-978e-360b-a4b4-5084be4026fb@elecraft.com> References: <2b179453-978e-360b-a4b4-5084be4026fb@elecraft.com> Message-ID: Bingo, finally (3rd cable I tried) found a good cable that cleared up the problem. -- GB & 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan John 3:16 Ephesians 2:8-9 1 Peter 2:24 Acts 2:38 On 6/9/2016 10:45 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: > Check the connections on the BNC cable between your K3 and P3 and > re-seat them. Also, if you have an extra BNC-BNC cable, try replacing > this cable. > > Also, if this BNC is run near switching power supplies etc. it can pick > up noise like this. > > 73, > Eric > /elecraft.com/ > > On 6/8/2016 7:22 AM, Sam Morgan wrote: >> I have a 8-9 khz wide signal that follows my VFO A around. I saw this >> on 160m and also in 10m this morning. I haven't checked the other bands. >> >> Images can be seen here: >> https://picasaweb.google.com/k5oai.sam/6293813435183959297 >> >> No antenna was connected to the K3. The only cables connected to the >> P3 were: Coax and RS232 from K3. I attached the RS232 to the computer >> to get the snap shots, bet the signal did not change with it connected >> to the computer or not. >> >> Note: During the snapshots I bumped the VFO knob from 28.120 to >> 28.119.40 by mistake during the snapshots, but that doesn't have any >> effect on the fact there is this big wide scary 8-9khz wide signal ~ >> 30 khz down from VFO A that is tracking my main VFO. >> >> What is going on, has my K-Line been invaded by something? If so what >> and how do I fix it? >> > From nr4c at widomaker.com Thu Jun 9 13:44:52 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Bill Conkling) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 13:44:52 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod Info In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9750D9E8-95D8-493A-B0F5-3EED67E25082@widomaker.com> If you read the data sheet on the website, it says "A utility jack beneath the radio?s front panel acts as the K-Pod?s data interface. The unit can be powered from the radio?s rear 12-V accessory output, the pod?s own USB port, or any 8-15 V, 50-mA DC power source.*? ?bill nr4c > On Jun 9, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Francisco Siso Hennessey HK3W wrote: > > Will be great to know how to connect K-Pod before purchase it. I have K3S + > KAT500 + KPA500 + P3 + MicrohamII + SP3 x 2 and I don't see where to > connnect it. > > Any advice will be aprreciated > > Regards, > Siso HK3W > _____________________________________________________________________ > > *Francisco "Siso" Hennessey - H K 3 W ---* > > *ARRL DXCC Card Checker* > > *DXCC HR - DXCC CW - DXCC RTTY -DXCC SSB - 8BDXCC -** | * Skype: siso-hk3w | > *Twitter: **http://twitter.com/HK3W *| > > *Member of: **ARRL (LM) - LoTW -* > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From w7ox at socal.rr.com Thu Jun 9 13:58:25 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 10:58:25 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 8khz wide sig tracks VFO A ~30khz lower in frequency In-Reply-To: <2b179453-978e-360b-a4b4-5084be4026fb@elecraft.com> References: <2b179453-978e-360b-a4b4-5084be4026fb@elecraft.com> Message-ID: Eric, Re "Also, if you have an extra BNC-BNC cable, try replacing this cable.": Really! Yesterday I was testing a newly received mag mount to make sure this (MFJ!) product was OK. Connected a dummy load to it via a BNC-BNC connector and VSWR was not flat and impedance varied significantly with frequency. Changed dummy load: Same result. As it turns out the problem was in the BNC-BNC cable, not the device I was testing. Verified by mounting one of the Elecraft dummy loads direct to the mag mount, then via a different cable which was OK. BTW -- the BNC-BNC mag mount is for use with the MFJ 18XX-T whips, so I can mount them remote from my KX2/3 vs. always on the rig with rt angle BNC adapter. Seems like a good option to have, since I have two of the whips (20 and 40)! 73, Phil W7OX On 6/9/16 8:45 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: > Check the connections on the BNC cable between > your K3 and P3 and re-seat them. Also, if you > have an extra BNC-BNC cable, try replacing this > cable. > > Also, if this BNC is run near switching power > supplies etc. it can pick up noise like this. > > 73, > Eric > /elecraft.com/ > > On 6/8/2016 7:22 AM, Sam Morgan wrote: >> I have a 8-9 khz wide signal that follows my >> VFO A around. I saw this on 160m and also in >> 10m this morning. I haven't checked the other >> bands. >> >> Images can be seen here: >> https://picasaweb.google.com/k5oai.sam/6293813435183959297 >> >> >> No antenna was connected to the K3. The only >> cables connected to the P3 were: Coax and RS232 >> from K3. I attached the RS232 to the computer >> to get the snap shots, bet the signal did not >> change with it connected to the computer or not. >> >> Note: During the snapshots I bumped the VFO >> knob from 28.120 to 28.119.40 by mistake during >> the snapshots, but that doesn't have any effect >> on the fact there is this big wide scary 8-9khz >> wide signal ~ 30 khz down from VFO A that is >> tracking my main VFO. >> >> What is going on, has my K-Line been invaded by >> something? If so what and how do I fix it? From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Thu Jun 9 14:17:34 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 11:17:34 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX2] DC Power In-Reply-To: <20160609143854.5869650.92848.40790@att.net> References: <55de60.1868b110.4489fea0@aol.com> <20160609143854.5869650.92848.40790@att.net> Message-ID: On Thu,6/9/2016 7:38 AM, Jim Finan wrote: > From what has been posted here, the least problematic (most stable?) chemistry appears to by LiFePhosphate. K9YC (Jim) recommends them after he evaluated the situation.? My recommendation is for decisions made by USERS of equipment, who are buying an aftermarket product, and who don't have the opportunity to evaluate OEM sources and their products with the resources of a good manufacturer's engineering team. If Elecraft's engineers have chosen a particular Li-ion battery pack from a particular vendor, I would respect their judgement unless I had good reason to question it. To put this in perspective, virtually all smart phones, tablets, and laptops have been powered by Li-ion batteries for at least 10 years. 73, Jim K9YC From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Thu Jun 9 14:17:52 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 11:17:52 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Solar Charge Controllers (was Field Day) In-Reply-To: <1C270A02-3957-4F2D-A6B1-D57E69266B87@me.com> References: <1C270A02-3957-4F2D-A6B1-D57E69266B87@me.com> Message-ID: <93dddcac-3e2c-c817-c213-6fbe7ab5a51c@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Wed,6/8/2016 8:42 PM, Jack Brindle wrote: > Thee is an issue with the cheaper solar controllers - they tend to place the switching transistor in the ground leg, making connections difficult. For example the Sunforce controller that Jim mentions uses an N-channel FET as its pass transistor, in the ground lead. If you then connect the radio or other load to the battery while it is being charged, you can end up with a floating ground. One local solar expert discovered that his setup of this kind caused massive current flow on the shield connection of a USB cable - it was essentially carrying all the ground current! Thanks for the alert, Jack. However -- the controller I referenced is a low power product, specifically designed for a single panel charging a battery. Such panels are rarely connected to a ground except via the return side of the pair feeding the battery through the charge regulator. Also, if a USB cable is the only connection between equipment in a system, that system lacks proper bonding. Abuse of the return conductor is not limited to devices like these. The very popular Watts Up inline volt-ammeter meters in the return lead, which can lead to very wrong answers when used to measure current within a station, for exactly the reasons Jack notes -- DC return current divides between the intentional path (the return wire) and all of the other return connections between equipment in a station, and bonding conductors. The Hamsource EZmeter ($80) and the West Mountain Radio PWRcheck ($180), both sold by DX Engineering, measure current in the positive conductor. I found the EZmeter at Pacificon last fall and quickly added it to my collection of test gear. 73, Jim K9YC From M0XDF at Alphadene.co.uk Thu Jun 9 15:00:18 2016 From: M0XDF at Alphadene.co.uk (David Ferrington, M0XDF) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 20:00:18 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod Info In-Reply-To: <9750D9E8-95D8-493A-B0F5-3EED67E25082@widomaker.com> References: <9750D9E8-95D8-493A-B0F5-3EED67E25082@widomaker.com> Message-ID: I could be mistaken, but I think the utility jack will power the pod too. 73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108) It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required. - Winston Churchill > On 9 Jun 2016, at 18:44, Bill Conkling wrote: > > If you read the data sheet on the website, it says > "A utility jack beneath the radio?s front panel acts as the K-Pod?s data interface. The unit can be powered from the radio?s rear 12-V accessory output, the pod?s own USB port, or any 8-15 V, 50-mA DC power source.*? > > ?bill nr4c > > > > > >> On Jun 9, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Francisco Siso Hennessey HK3W wrote: >> >> Will be great to know how to connect K-Pod before purchase it. I have K3S + >> KAT500 + KPA500 + P3 + MicrohamII + SP3 x 2 and I don't see where to >> connnect it. >> >> Any advice will be aprreciated >> >> Regards, >> Siso HK3W >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> >> *Francisco "Siso" Hennessey - H K 3 W ---* >> >> *ARRL DXCC Card Checker* >> >> *DXCC HR - DXCC CW - DXCC RTTY -DXCC SSB - 8BDXCC -** | * Skype: siso-hk3w | >> *Twitter: **http://twitter.com/HK3W *| >> >> *Member of: **ARRL (LM) - LoTW -* >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to m0xdf at alphadene.co.uk From donwilh at embarqmail.com Thu Jun 9 15:09:02 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 15:09:02 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod Info In-Reply-To: References: <9750D9E8-95D8-493A-B0F5-3EED67E25082@widomaker.com> Message-ID: <0afed0b3-baa6-1d02-7aa4-0b07460ee5e8@embarqmail.com> The utility RJ-45 jack *can* power the K-Pod, but that requires the addition of a resistor in the K3/K3S. It is an easy mod to install. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/9/2016 3:00 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: > I could be mistaken, but I think the utility jack will power the pod too. > 73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108) > From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Thu Jun 9 16:54:21 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 13:54:21 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod Info In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <869211dc-5e71-504e-07de-a8052e0c12bd@triconet.org> By now you know. What I want to know is whether they will be shipping without a user manual. It would be nice to know how they work before buying one. At least that's how I'm wired. On 6/9/2016 10:31 AM, Francisco "Siso" Hennessey HK3W wrote: > Will be great to know how to connect K-Pod before purchase it. I have K3S + > KAT500 + KPA500 + P3 + MicrohamII + SP3 x 2 and I don't see where to > connnect it. > > Any advice will be aprreciated > > Regards, > Siso HK3W > _____________________________________________________________________ > From karlerb7 at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 17:43:04 2016 From: karlerb7 at gmail.com (KarlErb) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 17:43:04 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Street Lamps and RFI Message-ID: <061BC5E4-A931-499A-A0E6-178B68A9922B@gmail.com> My condo association is planning to replace 1960's street lights to reduce energy usage. Is there a reference or two that would help me educate our Board on best technology and why RFI should matter to them (right now, it doesn't)? Thanks for any input. Karl W3BF karlerb7 at gmail dot com From donwilh at embarqmail.com Thu Jun 9 18:12:47 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 18:12:47 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Street Lamps and RFI In-Reply-To: <061BC5E4-A931-499A-A0E6-178B68A9922B@gmail.com> References: <061BC5E4-A931-499A-A0E6-178B68A9922B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4b0a475d-f693-5635-4305-94cf4fb9af6e@embarqmail.com> Karl, It might interest them to know if the street lamps (or any other devices) create RFI to licensed radio services (Amateur Radio included), they must turn those devices off and rectify the problem. Of course, the FCC would be involved should that happen, but they must rectify the RFI problem in any case. They may not understand why it matters to them until you make a complaint to the FCC and they are asked to shut the RFI generators down. Caution, the enforcement process can take some time, so if you can steer them to RFI-free devices, that is the best solution. I don't have any pointers to RFI-free street lighting. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/9/2016 5:43 PM, KarlErb wrote: > My condo association is planning to replace 1960's street lights to reduce energy usage. Is there a reference or two that would help me educate our Board on best technology and why RFI should matter to them (right now, it doesn't)? > > From pfizenmayer at q.com Thu Jun 9 18:26:51 2016 From: pfizenmayer at q.com (HankP) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 18:26:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Street Lamps and RFI In-Reply-To: <4b0a475d-f693-5635-4305-94cf4fb9af6e@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <2036429445.2828351.1465511211682.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> This is a reply from Mike Gruber -- Phoenix is planning 90,000 street and park lights !!!! - Hank K7HP To Whom It May Concern: This is in response for your request for public input concerning a conversion to LED street and park lighting in Phoenix. Although these lighting devices must meet FCC Part 15 limits for unintentional radiators, I?d like to suggest that they be rated for Part 15B as opposed to Part 15A. The lower Part 15B limits would help minimize the interference potential to radio reception in automobiles and other nearby users of the radio spectrum. Please don?t hesitate to ask if you have any questions. Thanks, Mike Gruber, W1MG ARRL EMC Engineer ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio? 225 Main Street, Newington, CT 06 111-1400 USA Telephone: (860) 594-0392 FAX: (860) 594-0259 Email: w1mg at arrl.org World Wide Web: http://www.arrl.org/ ----- Original Message ----- > Karl, > It might interest them to know if the street lamps (or any other > devices) create RFI to licensed radio services (Amateur Radio > included), > they must turn those devices off and rectify the problem. > Of course, the FCC would be involved should that happen, but they must > rectify the RFI problem in any case. > They may not understand why it matters to them until you make a > complaint to the FCC and they are asked to shut the RFI generators > down. > Caution, the enforcement process can take some time, so if you can > steer > them to RFI-free devices, that is the best solution. > I don't have any pointers to RFI-free street lighting. > 73, > Don W3FPR > On 6/9/2016 5:43 PM, KarlErb wrote: > > My condo association is planning to replace 1960's street lights to > > reduce energy usage. Is there a reference or two that would help me > > educate our Board on best technology and why RFI should matter to > > them (right now, it doesn't)? > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to pfizenmayer at q.com From john at kk9a.com Thu Jun 9 19:54:03 2016 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 19:54:03 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 8khz wide sig tracks VFO A ~30khz lower in frequency (SOLVED) Message-ID: <000d01d1c2aa$341e60d0$9c5b2270$@com> Where you previously using the BNC cable supplied by Elecraft? John Sam Morgan k5oai.sam at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 13:38:03 EDT 2016 Bingo, finally (3rd cable I tried) found a good cable that cleared up the problem. -- GB & 73 K5OAI From k6dgw at foothill.net Thu Jun 9 20:08:03 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 17:08:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Street Lamps and RFI In-Reply-To: <061BC5E4-A931-499A-A0E6-178B68A9922B@gmail.com> References: <061BC5E4-A931-499A-A0E6-178B68A9922B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3d75c893-4c63-bc52-be56-af74c243e441@foothill.net> My experience with two [a small sample] of street lamps, both owned by the State of California [CALTRANS], is that the lamps don't really matter much, it's the controllers ... what we used to call ballasts but that's archaic now. One appeared to be a fairly old high-pressure sodium vapor lamp, and it emitted a steady buzz centered on 6 Mhz and spread from about 3 Mhz to 8 Mhz. It was about 3 km away and ran about S5-S6 on my K3. A similar lamp maybe 4 km distant emitted nothing. The other was what I believe a low pressure lamp. It's problem was that it was failing ... very, very slowly ... and the controller [or ballast, your choice] would emit sharp spikes in a spectrum that ran from 160 through 17 m as it continually tried to restart the lamp. After multiple contacts to my state government, I gave up and we finally moved [not because of that :-)]. The failing one has not yet died, saw it last time through Auburn ... it does this day and night. You might want to point your Association to 47CFR15, and their responsibility to prevent interference to licensed services. They might care about that, CALTRANS never did. 73, Fred K6DGW Sparks NV Washoe County DM09dn On 6/9/2016 2:43 PM, KarlErb wrote: > My condo association is planning to replace 1960's street lights to > reduce energy usage. Is there a reference or two that would help me > educate our Board on best technology and why RFI should matter to > them (right now, it doesn't)? > > Thanks for any input. > > Karl W3BF karlerb7 at gmail dot com From k2asp at kanafi.org Thu Jun 9 20:46:17 2016 From: k2asp at kanafi.org (Phil Kane) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 17:46:17 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Street Lamps and RFI In-Reply-To: <2036429445.2828351.1465511211682.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> References: <2036429445.2828351.1465511211682.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Message-ID: <0c219d83-c922-01cc-108a-b0e33b6aa577@kanafi.org> On 6/9/2016 3:26 PM, HankP wrote: > Although these lighting devices must meet FCC Part 15 limits for > unintentional radiators, I?d like to suggest that they be rated for > Part 15B as opposed to Part 15A. Although we wish that it would be so, it is very doubtful if there are any street lamps that are certified to meet FCC Part 15 standards as Class B devices. We're lucky that they meet Class A device standards at that. 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 >From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon From kevin at k4vd.net Thu Jun 9 21:10:26 2016 From: kevin at k4vd.net (Kevin - K4VD) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 21:10:26 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Street Lamps and RFI In-Reply-To: <0c219d83-c922-01cc-108a-b0e33b6aa577@kanafi.org> References: <2036429445.2828351.1465511211682.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> <0c219d83-c922-01cc-108a-b0e33b6aa577@kanafi.org> Message-ID: Could the ARRL help? Maybe they can provide some background or educational material for the association. Kev / K4VD On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 8:46 PM, Phil Kane wrote: > On 6/9/2016 3:26 PM, HankP wrote: > > > Although these lighting devices must meet FCC Part 15 limits for > > unintentional radiators, I?d like to suggest that they be rated for > > Part 15B as opposed to Part 15A. > > Although we wish that it would be so, it is very doubtful if there are > any street lamps that are certified to meet FCC Part 15 standards as > Class B devices. We're lucky that they meet Class A device standards at > that. > > 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane > Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 > > From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest > Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevin at k4vd.net > From K2TK at ptd.net Thu Jun 9 23:35:04 2016 From: K2TK at ptd.net (Bob) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 23:35:04 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3: K-pod In-Reply-To: <6069f224-7ced-348f-b8d5-57e94fc5535c@nycap.rr.com> References: <6069f224-7ced-348f-b8d5-57e94fc5535c@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: Well what would be really useful before would be manuals, even preliminary ones being posted. I'd like to have the mod for power thru the RJ45 connector done so upon arrival it would be plug and play. 73, Bob K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR On 6/9/2016 10:37 AM, Bill wrote: > Only six days before shipping??? Sure hope so. Looks like a great add-on. > > Bill W2BLC K-Line > From dave at nk7z.net Thu Jun 9 23:43:06 2016 From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2016 20:43:06 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Street Lamps and RFI In-Reply-To: <061BC5E4-A931-499A-A0E6-178B68A9922B@gmail.com> References: <061BC5E4-A931-499A-A0E6-178B68A9922B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1465530186.3692.27.camel@nk7z.net> On Thu, 2016-06-09 at 17:43 -0400, KarlErb wrote: > My condo association is planning to replace 1960's street lights to > reduce energy usage.??Is there a reference or two that would help me > educate our Board on best technology and why RFI should matter to them > (right now, it doesn't)? > >? You should contact Ed Hare, and/or Mike Gruber of the ARRL. ?Go to the ARRL page and you can locate their email address, or call the ARRL directly and ask for Mike Gruber. ?They are imminently contactable via phone. ?Mike and Ed will be able to assist you in very short order. -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Fri Jun 10 00:57:50 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 21:57:50 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Street Lamps and RFI In-Reply-To: <0c219d83-c922-01cc-108a-b0e33b6aa577@kanafi.org> References: <2036429445.2828351.1465511211682.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> <0c219d83-c922-01cc-108a-b0e33b6aa577@kanafi.org> Message-ID: On Thu,6/9/2016 5:46 PM, Phil Kane wrote: > Although we wish that it would be so, it is very doubtful if there are > any street lamps that are certified to meet FCC Part 15 standards as > Class B devices. Phil, My understanding of the Rules is that if a product is used in a residential neighborhood it must be certified to Class B. Am I mistaken? 73, Jim K9YC From pa3a at xs4all.nl Fri Jun 10 05:08:12 2016 From: pa3a at xs4all.nl (Arie Kleingeld PA3A) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 11:08:12 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100 Keying Mod In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi David, Elecraft probably did not communicate it to you. I had a TR-switch problem in my KPA500. After a good search and some correspondence with Elecraft I found the cause of the problem. And .... Presto, there was standard mod for it and they did not tell me that beforehand. I had to find the rootcause of the problem first. Learned a lot by the way haha. (Anyway, the KPA500 does a splendid job.) 73 Arie PA3A Op 9-6-2016 om 16:43 schreef David Robertson: > I either missed the memo or Elecraft didn't contact those of us about this > problem. Elecraft now has a mod kit that solved the keying problem. The kit > part number is KXPAMDKT2 and is free. From karlerb7 at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 08:18:51 2016 From: karlerb7 at gmail.com (KarlErb) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:18:51 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: [OT] Street Lamps and RFI References: <1465530186.3692.27.camel@nk7z.net> Message-ID: <1CF296A7-677A-44C1-A950-2EFF6519A71D@gmail.com> Thanks to everyone who responded to my request. Very helpful. I'll get in touch with ARRL and EPRI folk and then alert our Board to the why's, what for's and consequences of Part 15. This dovetails with our similar discussions about rooftop solar panels. 73, Karl Erb W3BF From w6hv at verizon.net Fri Jun 10 11:14:47 2016 From: w6hv at verizon.net (Troy, W6HV) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:14:47 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3: K-pod In-Reply-To: References: <6069f224-7ced-348f-b8d5-57e94fc5535c@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: <04D6CB9AD9CD4E039972A8B8D68E15A5@TroyPC> Yes, mine is on order but sure would appreciate knowing the RJ45 mod now so the it's ready to use. 73, Troy, W6HV -----Original Message----- From: Bob Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 8:35 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: K-pod Well what would be really useful before would be manuals, even preliminary ones being posted. I'd like to have the mod for power thru the RJ45 connector done so upon arrival it would be plug and play. 73, Bob K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR On 6/9/2016 10:37 AM, Bill wrote: > Only six days before shipping??? Sure hope so. Looks like a great add-on. > > Bill W2BLC K-Line > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w6hv at verizon.net From don.field at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 12:16:38 2016 From: don.field at gmail.com (Don Field) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 17:16:38 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 LPF T/R switch rework Message-ID: I wonder whether anyone on here can answer the following query from my friend Mike G3WPH please (he's not on this reflector but I'll QSP any replies): *I?m installing Elecraft parts kit E850607 into a KPA500 for a friend. All went well until I reached instruction 3 which says ?Verify that R3 is a Zener Diode Elecraft part E560074. If it is not remove and replace with the provided diode? Unfortunately the instructions have no information about the zener orientation and I don?t have a circuit diagram. I?ve verified R3 is a 100k resistor.* *I?m guessing that others have already come across this problem and can help. I can?t find any information on the web and not being a Elecraft user don?t have access to any of their mailing lists.* *Thanks for any help,* *Mike /G3WPH* 73 Don G3XTT From ken at arcomcontrollers.com Fri Jun 10 12:43:12 2016 From: ken at arcomcontrollers.com (Ken Arck) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 09:43:12 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] WTB: KANT3 board In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all Anyone have the non-tuner antenna interface card they'd like to part with? Ken ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" From k5oai.sam at gmail.com Fri Jun 10 12:47:43 2016 From: k5oai.sam at gmail.com (Sam Morgan) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 11:47:43 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 8khz wide sig tracks VFO A ~30khz lower in frequency (SOLVED) In-Reply-To: <000d01d1c2aa$341e60d0$9c5b2270$@com> References: <000d01d1c2aa$341e60d0$9c5b2270$@com> Message-ID: Yes it was, in fact I tried 2 different Elecraft BNC-BNC cables, both had the problem. The cables had molded ends over the metal of the outer shell of the connector and are marked ELECTRONICS RG58 9142 M On 6/9/2016 6:54 PM, john at kk9a.com wrote: > Where you previously using the BNC cable supplied by Elecraft? > > John > > > Sam Morgan k5oai.sam at gmail.com > Thu Jun 9 13:38:03 EDT 2016 > > Bingo, finally (3rd cable I tried) found a good cable that cleared up > the problem. > -- GB & 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan John 3:16 Ephesians 2:8-9 1 Peter 2:24 Acts 2:38 From w2blc at nycap.rr.com Fri Jun 10 13:58:12 2016 From: w2blc at nycap.rr.com (Bill) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 13:58:12 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3: K-pod In-Reply-To: <04D6CB9AD9CD4E039972A8B8D68E15A5@TroyPC> References: <04D6CB9AD9CD4E039972A8B8D68E15A5@TroyPC> Message-ID: Or, you can plug it into the 12 VDC port on the rear of the K3 and not have to open the K3 at all. Loads of choices. Bill W2BLC K-Line From kb2m at arrl.net Fri Jun 10 14:27:44 2016 From: kb2m at arrl.net (Jeff Griffin) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:27:44 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] for sale PR6 Message-ID: <00a201d1c345$c84ffca0$58eff5e0$@net> I just ordered a KXV3B for my K3 so I have in excess to my need's a PR6 Preamp. It comes with supplied power and ACC connector, and also includes the two BNC double male connectors. 100$ shipped. Paypal ok... 73 Jeff kb2m From fptownsend at earthlink.net Fri Jun 10 16:03:09 2016 From: fptownsend at earthlink.net (Fred Townsend) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 13:03:09 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the Western US Message-ID: <00a501d1c353$1d41abc0$57c50340$@earthlink.net> This Is Likely Why The Navy Is Causing A Massive And Mysterious GPS Outage In The Western US - The Drive http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3865/this-is-likely-why-the-navy-is-cau sing-a-massive-and-mysterious-gps-outage-in-the-western-us Fred, AE6QL From kx4o at hamradio.me Fri Jun 10 16:31:20 2016 From: kx4o at hamradio.me (John Huggins, kx4o) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 20:31:20 -0000 Subject: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the Western US Message-ID: <8c52036ed8ea76af26d8e0f6945fca3f.squirrel@mail3.fairfaxva.net> Time to refit my Rose bag for a sextant and charts... and a fine watch? John, kx4o On Fri, June 10, 2016 20:03, Fred Townsend wrote: > > This Is Likely Why The Navy Is Causing A Massive And Mysterious GPS > Outage > In The Western US - The Drive > > > http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3865/this-is-likely-why-the-navy-is- > cau sing-a-massive-and-mysterious-gps-outage-in-the-western-us > > Fred, AE6QL > From w7ox at socal.rr.com Fri Jun 10 16:40:52 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 13:40:52 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the Western US In-Reply-To: <8c52036ed8ea76af26d8e0f6945fca3f.squirrel@mail3.fairfaxva.net> References: <8c52036ed8ea76af26d8e0f6945fca3f.squirrel@mail3.fairfaxva.net> Message-ID: <6ad890ea-c040-17d5-8c81-f213b9860a44@socal.rr.com> Read this https://www.faasafety.gov/files/notices/2016/Jun/CHLK_16-08_GPS_Flight_Advisory.pdf Phil W7OX On 6/10/16 1:31 PM, John Huggins, kx4o wrote: > >http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3865/this-is-likely-why-the-navy-is- > >cau sing-a-massive-and-mysterious-gps-outage-in-the-western-us From alsopb at comcast.net Fri Jun 10 16:50:08 2016 From: alsopb at comcast.net (brian) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 20:50:08 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the Western US In-Reply-To: <8c52036ed8ea76af26d8e0f6945fca3f.squirrel@mail3.fairfaxva.net> References: <8c52036ed8ea76af26d8e0f6945fca3f.squirrel@mail3.fairfaxva.net> Message-ID: <575B2800.5030804@comcast.net> Related to this. The Naval Academy has started teaching Celestial Navigation again. It had been discontinued. The Coast Guard never discontinued it. I also understand the old surplussed 10 kW Collins HF transmitters are being reacquired by the military. Can teaching of CW be next? 73 de Brian/K3KO On 6/10/2016 20:31 PM, John Huggins, kx4o wrote: > Time to refit my Rose bag for a sextant and charts... and a fine watch? > > John, kx4o > > On Fri, June 10, 2016 20:03, Fred Townsend wrote: >> > >> This Is Likely Why The Navy Is Causing A Massive And Mysterious GPS >> Outage >> In The Western US - The Drive >> >> >> http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3865/this-is-likely-why-the-navy-is- >> cau sing-a-massive-and-mysterious-gps-outage-in-the-western-us >> >> Fred, AE6QL >> > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to alsopb at comcast.net > From nq5t at tx.rr.com Fri Jun 10 16:50:55 2016 From: nq5t at tx.rr.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 15:50:55 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the Western US In-Reply-To: <8c52036ed8ea76af26d8e0f6945fca3f.squirrel@mail3.fairfaxva.net> References: <8c52036ed8ea76af26d8e0f6945fca3f.squirrel@mail3.fairfaxva.net> Message-ID: Don't forget your star finder, tables and a copy of Bowditch for good measure. A celestial fix is a beautiful thing -- especially since you don't have to worry about pulling it off in anything approaching a trial by fire state 5-6 sea :) Grant NQ5T Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 10, 2016, at 3:31 PM, John Huggins, kx4o wrote: > > Time to refit my Rose bag for a sextant and charts... and a fine watch? > > John, kx4o > >> From ron at cobi.biz Fri Jun 10 17:07:20 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:07:20 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the Western US In-Reply-To: <575B2800.5030804@comcast.net> References: <8c52036ed8ea76af26d8e0f6945fca3f.squirrel@mail3.fairfaxva.net> <575B2800.5030804@comcast.net> Message-ID: <005b01d1c35c$141086d0$3c319470$@biz> When I was servicing shipboard electronics systems in the 90's, one of my regular "charges" as a civilian contractor was the Naval Hospital ship USNS Mercy ported in San Francisco, CA. I went to sea on her several times to check/calibrate nav systems, radars, direction finders, GPS gear, etc. under operational conditions. On one trip I noticed officers on the grabbing sextants and heading out onto the bridge wings. I asked the Captain if the US Navy still used sextants to navigate in this day and age. He smiled and said, "If we go to war, most of that stuff up there (pointing to the sky) will be disabled in the first hour. My officers will know how to get us wherever we're needed without it!" 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of brian Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 1:50 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the Western US Related to this. The Naval Academy has started teaching Celestial Navigation again. It had been discontinued. The Coast Guard never discontinued it. I also understand the old surplussed 10 kW Collins HF transmitters are being reacquired by the military. Can teaching of CW be next? 73 de Brian/K3KO From k6dgw at foothill.net Fri Jun 10 17:38:54 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:38:54 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Street Lamps and RFI In-Reply-To: References: <2036429445.2828351.1465511211682.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> <0c219d83-c922-01cc-108a-b0e33b6aa577@kanafi.org> Message-ID: I don't think so Jim, but don't put any money on what I think. Most of 47CFR that deals with such standards seems to classify emitters based more on their usage rather than location. I suspect that "street lighting," even if in a residential area would not have to meet Class B standards. Not that that would matter anyway, it appears that no one is enforcing any of this. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org On 6/9/2016 9:57 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > On Thu,6/9/2016 5:46 PM, Phil Kane wrote: >> Although we wish that it would be so, it is very doubtful if there are >> any street lamps that are certified to meet FCC Part 15 standards as >> Class B devices. > > Phil, > > My understanding of the Rules is that if a product is used in a > residential neighborhood it must be certified to Class B. Am I mistaken? > > 73, Jim K9YC From ae5x at juno.com Fri Jun 10 17:40:29 2016 From: ae5x at juno.com (ae5x at juno.com) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:40:29 GMT Subject: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the Western US Message-ID: <20160610.164029.16859.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> Many of the newer GPS receivers also receive GLONASS so won't be affected by this. John AE5X http://ae5x.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Blazeray Deemed: One Household Item Everyone Should Have In Any Emergency http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/575b33f2399f033f12853st02vuc From wunder at wunderwood.org Fri Jun 10 17:47:03 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:47:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the Western US In-Reply-To: <20160610.164029.16859.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> References: <20160610.164029.16859.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <0559D604-D005-4889-AE46-8C6DE7F2FEF0@wunderwood.org> GPS and GLONASS use very similar frequencies. They should be equally easy to jam. Unless the jammer is narrowband, it might take out both. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jun 10, 2016, at 2:40 PM, ae5x at juno.com wrote: > > Many of the newer GPS receivers also receive GLONASS so won't be affected by this. > > John AE5X > http://ae5x.blogspot.com/ > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Blazeray > Deemed: One Household Item Everyone Should Have In Any Emergency > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/575b33f2399f033f12853st02vuc > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From kx4o at hamradio.me Fri Jun 10 17:49:30 2016 From: kx4o at hamradio.me (John Huggins, kx4o) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:49:30 -0000 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] Adding TX/RX "Relay" to KX3 Operation Message-ID: All, Oh the things that come up for Field Day with just weeks left to prepare. Say someone commits to bringing a "mighty-fine" RX only electrically steerable antenna of some sort to field day 2016. Not wanting to be forever mechanically switching between TX and RX antennas... How would you approach adding an automatic TX/RX swtiching capability to a KX3 operating QRP? Would you consider some sort of "diode" switch or stick with good ole mechanical relays? I have my thoughts, but thank you all in advance for yours. John, kx4o From kevin at k4vd.net Fri Jun 10 17:56:31 2016 From: kevin at k4vd.net (Kevin - K4VD) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 17:56:31 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the Western US In-Reply-To: <005b01d1c35c$141086d0$3c319470$@biz> References: <8c52036ed8ea76af26d8e0f6945fca3f.squirrel@mail3.fairfaxva.net> <575B2800.5030804@comcast.net> <005b01d1c35c$141086d0$3c319470$@biz> Message-ID: Testing and practice all make sense but what isn't making sense about this is that we're disrupting GPS. Lots of stuff other than military rely on GPS and - just my humble opinion - It seems a little freaky that they are testing commercial aircraft. Wouldn't as valid a test simply be to turn off the GPS receiver? I mean testing for a power outage at a commercial data center doesn't require turning off power to the city. It all kind of seems strange to me. Kev On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > When I was servicing shipboard electronics systems in the 90's, one of my > regular "charges" as a civilian contractor was the Naval Hospital ship USNS > Mercy ported in San Francisco, CA. I went to sea on her several times to > check/calibrate nav systems, radars, direction finders, GPS gear, etc. > under > operational conditions. > > On one trip I noticed officers on the grabbing sextants and heading out > onto > the bridge wings. I asked the Captain if the US Navy still used sextants to > navigate in this day and age. He smiled and said, "If we go to war, most of > that stuff up there (pointing to the sky) will be disabled in the first > hour. My officers will know how to get us wherever we're needed without > it!" > > > 73, Ron AC7AC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of > brian > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 1:50 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the > Western US > > Related to this. The Naval Academy has started teaching Celestial > Navigation again. It had been discontinued. > > The Coast Guard never discontinued it. > > I also understand the old surplussed 10 kW Collins HF transmitters are > being > reacquired by the military. Can teaching of CW be next? > > 73 de Brian/K3KO > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevin at k4vd.net > From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Fri Jun 10 18:01:53 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 15:01:53 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the Western US In-Reply-To: <00a501d1c353$1d41abc0$57c50340$@earthlink.net> References: <00a501d1c353$1d41abc0$57c50340$@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4606e547-27c1-a0fc-001f-ba7f75fb0e58@triconet.org> How times have changed. Back in 1997, when I was working as a contractor for my old company, Hughes Missile Systems (now Raytheon), I worked on implementing some jamming tests on the Tomahawk missile GPS. FWIW, we put the missile section on a wooden pedestal covered in RF absorber on top of the rotating plate (also covered in absorber cones) under "The Arc" as seen here: http://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/test-facility-at-ft-huachuca-assures-working-communications-equipment-for-soldiers Just for giggles, I climbed (took the stairs) "The Red Tower", the top of which would contain a good sized ham shack. The tower is completely wooden and held together by fiberglass bolts. The "dish" that is behind the guy being interviewed is actually a shaped reflector that in combination with a horn located below ground level forms a folded "compact" range, for those who understand such things. The leaning airfoil shaped tower holds the test subject at the plane-wave focal point of the reflector. An M1 Abrams tank can be supported and rotated on top of this tower. We had to do our testing in the wee hours of the morning, with secure communications links to range people who could tell us to shut down at a moments notice and our jammers were on a, few minutes on-lots of minutes off schedule. Wes N7WS On 6/10/2016 1:03 PM, Fred Townsend wrote: > This Is Likely Why The Navy Is Causing A Massive And Mysterious GPS Outage > In The Western US - The Drive > > http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3865/this-is-likely-why-the-navy-is-cau > sing-a-massive-and-mysterious-gps-outage-in-the-western-us > > Fred, AE6QL > From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Fri Jun 10 18:12:47 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 15:12:47 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the Western US In-Reply-To: <575B2800.5030804@comcast.net> References: <8c52036ed8ea76af26d8e0f6945fca3f.squirrel@mail3.fairfaxva.net> <575B2800.5030804@comcast.net> Message-ID: I also follow the time-nuts reflector. One of he regulars is Tom Van Baak, who had a part in the PBS series "Genius" (http://www.pbs.org/genius-by-stephen-hawking/episodes/episode-1/) which was largely filmed here in Tucson. When I mentioned this to my friend Dan, AC6LA, he recommended the book, "Longitude" by Dava Sobel. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longitude_(book) The rest is probably self-explanatory. On 6/10/2016 1:50 PM, brian wrote: > Related to this. The Naval Academy has started teaching Celestial Navigation > again. It had been discontinued. > > The Coast Guard never discontinued it. > > I also understand the old surplussed 10 kW Collins HF transmitters are being > reacquired by the military. Can teaching of CW be next? > > 73 de Brian/K3KO From va3mw at portcredit.net Fri Jun 10 18:14:16 2016 From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 18:14:16 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the Western US In-Reply-To: <4606e547-27c1-a0fc-001f-ba7f75fb0e58@triconet.org> References: <00a501d1c353$1d41abc0$57c50340$@earthlink.net> <4606e547-27c1-a0fc-001f-ba7f75fb0e58@triconet.org> Message-ID: Notams where issued earlier this week for this. It really isn't an Elecraft issue. :) Mike va3mw On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: > How times have changed. Back in 1997, when I was working as a contractor > for my old company, Hughes Missile Systems (now Raytheon), I worked on > implementing some jamming tests on the Tomahawk missile GPS. FWIW, we put > the missile section on a wooden pedestal covered in RF absorber on top of > the rotating plate (also covered in absorber cones) under "The Arc" as seen > here: > http://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/test-facility-at-ft-huachuca-assures-working-communications-equipment-for-soldiers > > Just for giggles, I climbed (took the stairs) "The Red Tower", the top of > which would contain a good sized ham shack. The tower is completely wooden > and held together by fiberglass bolts. The "dish" that is behind the guy > being interviewed is actually a shaped reflector that in combination with a > horn located below ground level forms a folded "compact" range, for those > who understand such things. The leaning airfoil shaped tower holds the test > subject at the plane-wave focal point of the reflector. An M1 Abrams tank > can be supported and rotated on top of this tower. > > We had to do our testing in the wee hours of the morning, with secure > communications links to range people who could tell us to shut down at a > moments notice and our jammers were on a, few minutes on-lots of minutes > off schedule. > > Wes N7WS > > > On 6/10/2016 1:03 PM, Fred Townsend wrote: > >> This Is Likely Why The Navy Is Causing A Massive And Mysterious GPS Outage >> In The Western US - The Drive >> >> >> http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3865/this-is-likely-why-the-navy-is-cau >> sing-a-massive-and-mysterious-gps-outage-in-the-western-us >> >> Fred, AE6QL >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to va3mw at portcredit.net > From KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com Fri Jun 10 18:23:46 2016 From: KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 15:23:46 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the Western US In-Reply-To: References: <8c52036ed8ea76af26d8e0f6945fca3f.squirrel@mail3.fairfaxva.net> <575B2800.5030804@comcast.net> <005b01d1c35c$141086d0$3c319470$@biz> Message-ID: Whatever they're testing, it isn't commercial aircraft. The article seems to suggest that it's a jammer, and that makes some sense. They may be testing a system to detect intentionally distorted GPS. While it may affect a whole lot of stuff (like the cell phone network), an FAA Notice to Airmen would only cover things the FAA cares about. 73 -- Lynn On 6/10/2016 2:56 PM, Kevin - K4VD wrote: > Testing and practice all make sense but what isn't making sense about this > is that we're disrupting GPS. Lots of stuff other than military rely on GPS > and - just my humble opinion - It seems a little freaky that they are > testing commercial aircraft. From w0eb at cox.net Fri Jun 10 18:32:58 2016 From: w0eb at cox.net (Jim Sheldon) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 17:32:58 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the Western US In-Reply-To: <5AFx1t00f45oxQM01AFy88> References: <00a501d1c353$1d41abc0$57c50340$@earthlink.net> <4606e547-27c1-a0fc-001f-ba7f75fb0e58@triconet.org> <5AFx1t00f45oxQM01AFy88> Message-ID: Actually it Is of concern to all K3 and K3S owners in and close to the affected area who use GPS disciplined oscillators to enhance frequency accuracy and stability via the K3EXREF module. Jim - W0EB Sent from my iPad > On Jun 10, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Michael Walker wrote: > > > It really isn't an Elecraft issue. :) > > Mike va3mw > > >> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: >> >> How times have changed. Back in 1997, when I was working as a contractor >> for my old company, Hughes Missile Systems (now Raytheon), I worked on >> implementing some jamming tests on the Tomahawk missile GPS. FWIW, we put >> the missile section on a wooden pedestal covered in RF absorber on top of >> the rotating plate (also covered in absorber cones) under "The Arc" as seen >> here: >> http://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/test-facility-at-ft-huachuca-assures-working-communications-equipment-for-soldiers >> >> Just for giggles, I climbed (took the stairs) "The Red Tower", the top of >> which would contain a good sized ham shack. The tower is completely wooden >> and held together by fiberglass bolts. The "dish" that is behind the guy >> being interviewed is actually a shaped reflector that in combination with a >> horn located below ground level forms a folded "compact" range, for those >> who understand such things. The leaning airfoil shaped tower holds the test >> subject at the plane-wave focal point of the reflector. An M1 Abrams tank >> can be supported and rotated on top of this tower. >> >> We had to do our testing in the wee hours of the morning, with secure >> communications links to range people who could tell us to shut down at a >> moments notice and our jammers were on a, few minutes on-lots of minutes >> off schedule. >> >> Wes N7WS >> >> >>> On 6/10/2016 1:03 PM, Fred Townsend wrote: >>> >>> This Is Likely Why The Navy Is Causing A Massive And Mysterious GPS Outage >>> In The Western US - The Drive >>> >>> >>> http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3865/this-is-likely-why-the-navy-is-cau >>> sing-a-massive-and-mysterious-gps-outage-in-the-western-us >>> >>> Fred, AE6QL >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to va3mw at portcredit.net > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w0eb at cox.net From va3mw at portcredit.net Fri Jun 10 18:35:12 2016 From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 18:35:12 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the Western US In-Reply-To: References: <00a501d1c353$1d41abc0$57c50340$@earthlink.net> <4606e547-27c1-a0fc-001f-ba7f75fb0e58@triconet.org> Message-ID: If it is a concern to those with the K3EXREF, what happens to their frequency stability? Are they now off frequency? What is plan B if your K3EXREF reference fails? Does this even affect those? If it does, than I am sure it will affect most cell circuits as well. Just curious. On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 6:32 PM, Jim Sheldon wrote: > Actually it Is of concern to all K3 and K3S owners in and close to the > affected area who use GPS disciplined oscillators to enhance frequency > accuracy and stability via the K3EXREF module. > > Jim - W0EB > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jun 10, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Michael Walker > wrote: > > > > > > It really isn't an Elecraft issue. :) > > > > Mike va3mw > > > > > >> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Wes Stewart > wrote: > >> > >> How times have changed. Back in 1997, when I was working as a > contractor > >> for my old company, Hughes Missile Systems (now Raytheon), I worked on > >> implementing some jamming tests on the Tomahawk missile GPS. FWIW, we > put > >> the missile section on a wooden pedestal covered in RF absorber on top > of > >> the rotating plate (also covered in absorber cones) under "The Arc" as > seen > >> here: > >> > http://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/test-facility-at-ft-huachuca-assures-working-communications-equipment-for-soldiers > >> > >> Just for giggles, I climbed (took the stairs) "The Red Tower", the top > of > >> which would contain a good sized ham shack. The tower is completely > wooden > >> and held together by fiberglass bolts. The "dish" that is behind the > guy > >> being interviewed is actually a shaped reflector that in combination > with a > >> horn located below ground level forms a folded "compact" range, for > those > >> who understand such things. The leaning airfoil shaped tower holds the > test > >> subject at the plane-wave focal point of the reflector. An M1 Abrams > tank > >> can be supported and rotated on top of this tower. > >> > >> We had to do our testing in the wee hours of the morning, with secure > >> communications links to range people who could tell us to shut down at a > >> moments notice and our jammers were on a, few minutes on-lots of minutes > >> off schedule. > >> > >> Wes N7WS > >> > >> > >>> On 6/10/2016 1:03 PM, Fred Townsend wrote: > >>> > >>> This Is Likely Why The Navy Is Causing A Massive And Mysterious GPS > Outage > >>> In The Western US - The Drive > >>> > >>> > >>> > http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3865/this-is-likely-why-the-navy-is-cau > >>> sing-a-massive-and-mysterious-gps-outage-in-the-western-us > >>> > >>> Fred, AE6QL > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> Message delivered to va3mw at portcredit.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to w0eb at cox.net > > From dave at nk7z.net Fri Jun 10 18:51:07 2016 From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 15:51:07 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the Western US In-Reply-To: References: <00a501d1c353$1d41abc0$57c50340$@earthlink.net> <4606e547-27c1-a0fc-001f-ba7f75fb0e58@triconet.org> <5AFx1t00f45oxQM01AFy88> Message-ID: <1465599067.3742.17.camel@nk7z.net> On Fri, 2016-06-10 at 17:32 -0500, Jim Sheldon wrote: > Actually it Is of concern to all K3 and K3S owners in and close to the > affected area who use GPS disciplined oscillators to enhance frequency > accuracy and stability via the K3EXREF module. > > Jim - W0EB Well connected Jim. ?:) -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net From w0eb at cox.net Fri Jun 10 19:13:32 2016 From: w0eb at cox.net (Jim Sheldon) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 18:13:32 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the Western US In-Reply-To: <5AcA1t00G45oxQM01AcB2U> References: <00a501d1c353$1d41abc0$57c50340$@earthlink.net> <4606e547-27c1-a0fc-001f-ba7f75fb0e58@triconet.org> <5AcA1t00G45oxQM01AcB2U> Message-ID: That's going to be difficult to answer without knowing just what effect these "events" will have on the signals received by the GPSDO's control receiver. If the GPS signals are "spoofed" the GPSDO could very well be driven off frequency, causing the K3EXREF to cause the radio's frequency to be off by quite a bit, actual amount and direction unknown. If the signal simply is blocked, the effect will probably be very minimal and will vary by the frequency and stability of the GPSDO's unlocked crystal oscillator. Without knowing exactly what they are doing, and exactly how that will affect the actual reception of the GPS (or GLONASS) signals, it will be impossible to predict exactly what will happen and that's why it should be of concern. Jim - W0EB > On Jun 10, 2016, at 5:35 PM, Michael Walker wrote: > > If it is a concern to those with the K3EXREF, what happens to their > frequency stability? > > Are they now off frequency? What is plan B if your K3EXREF reference fails? > > Does this even affect those? If it does, than I am sure it will affect > most cell circuits as well. > > Just curious. > > > >> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 6:32 PM, Jim Sheldon wrote: >> >> Actually it Is of concern to all K3 and K3S owners in and close to the >> affected area who use GPS disciplined oscillators to enhance frequency >> accuracy and stability via the K3EXREF module. >> >> Jim - W0EB >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>>> On Jun 10, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Michael Walker >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> It really isn't an Elecraft issue. :) >>> >>> Mike va3mw >>> >>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Wes Stewart >> wrote: >>>> >>>> How times have changed. Back in 1997, when I was working as a >> contractor >>>> for my old company, Hughes Missile Systems (now Raytheon), I worked on >>>> implementing some jamming tests on the Tomahawk missile GPS. FWIW, we >> put >>>> the missile section on a wooden pedestal covered in RF absorber on top >> of >>>> the rotating plate (also covered in absorber cones) under "The Arc" as >> seen >>>> here: >> http://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/test-facility-at-ft-huachuca-assures-working-communications-equipment-for-soldiers >>>> >>>> Just for giggles, I climbed (took the stairs) "The Red Tower", the top >> of >>>> which would contain a good sized ham shack. The tower is completely >> wooden >>>> and held together by fiberglass bolts. The "dish" that is behind the >> guy >>>> being interviewed is actually a shaped reflector that in combination >> with a >>>> horn located below ground level forms a folded "compact" range, for >> those >>>> who understand such things. The leaning airfoil shaped tower holds the >> test >>>> subject at the plane-wave focal point of the reflector. An M1 Abrams >> tank >>>> can be supported and rotated on top of this tower. >>>> >>>> We had to do our testing in the wee hours of the morning, with secure >>>> communications links to range people who could tell us to shut down at a >>>> moments notice and our jammers were on a, few minutes on-lots of minutes >>>> off schedule. >>>> >>>> Wes N7WS >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 6/10/2016 1:03 PM, Fred Townsend wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This Is Likely Why The Navy Is Causing A Massive And Mysterious GPS >> Outage >>>>> In The Western US - The Drive >> http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3865/this-is-likely-why-the-navy-is-cau >>>>> sing-a-massive-and-mysterious-gps-outage-in-the-western-us >>>>> >>>>> Fred, AE6QL >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to va3mw at portcredit.net >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to w0eb at cox.net > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w0eb at cox.net From kevin at ve3syb.ca Fri Jun 10 19:34:21 2016 From: kevin at ve3syb.ca (Kevin Cozens) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 19:34:21 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the Western US In-Reply-To: References: <00a501d1c353$1d41abc0$57c50340$@earthlink.net> <4606e547-27c1-a0fc-001f-ba7f75fb0e58@triconet.org> <5AFx1t00f45oxQM01AFy88> Message-ID: <575B4E7D.7050106@ve3syb.ca> On 16-06-10 06:32 PM, Jim Sheldon wrote: > Actually it Is of concern to all K3 and K3S owners in and close to the > affected area who use GPS disciplined oscillators The planned outage was cancelled two days ago. https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2016/june/08/navy-cancels-planned-gps-outage-in-southern-california -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ |"Nerds make the shiny things that distract Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | the mouth-breathers, and that's why we're | powerful!" #include | --Chris Hardwick From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Fri Jun 10 19:45:44 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 18:45:44 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the Western US In-Reply-To: References: <00a501d1c353$1d41abc0$57c50340$@earthlink.net> <4606e547-27c1-a0fc-001f-ba7f75fb0e58@triconet.org> <5AFx1t00f45oxQM01AFy88> Message-ID: You forgot to add "and are related to Kevin Bacon". On 6/10/2016 5:32 PM, Jim Sheldon wrote: > Actually it Is of concern to all K3 and K3S owners in and close to the affected area who use GPS disciplined oscillators to enhance frequency accuracy and stability via the K3EXREF module. > > Jim - W0EB > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jun 10, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Michael Walker wrote: >> >> >> It really isn't an Elecraft issue. :) >> >> Mike va3mw >> >> >>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: >>> >>> How times have changed. Back in 1997, when I was working as a contractor >>> for my old company, Hughes Missile Systems (now Raytheon), I worked on >>> implementing some jamming tests on the Tomahawk missile GPS. FWIW, we put >>> the missile section on a wooden pedestal covered in RF absorber on top of >>> the rotating plate (also covered in absorber cones) under "The Arc" as seen >>> here: >>> http://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/test-facility-at-ft-huachuca-assures-working-communications-equipment-for-soldiers >>> >>> Just for giggles, I climbed (took the stairs) "The Red Tower", the top of >>> which would contain a good sized ham shack. The tower is completely wooden >>> and held together by fiberglass bolts. The "dish" that is behind the guy >>> being interviewed is actually a shaped reflector that in combination with a >>> horn located below ground level forms a folded "compact" range, for those >>> who understand such things. The leaning airfoil shaped tower holds the test >>> subject at the plane-wave focal point of the reflector. An M1 Abrams tank >>> can be supported and rotated on top of this tower. >>> >>> We had to do our testing in the wee hours of the morning, with secure >>> communications links to range people who could tell us to shut down at a >>> moments notice and our jammers were on a, few minutes on-lots of minutes >>> off schedule. >>> >>> Wes N7WS >>> >>> >>>> On 6/10/2016 1:03 PM, Fred Townsend wrote: >>>> >>>> This Is Likely Why The Navy Is Causing A Massive And Mysterious GPS Outage >>>> In The Western US - The Drive >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3865/this-is-likely-why-the-navy-is-cau >>>> sing-a-massive-and-mysterious-gps-outage-in-the-western-us >>>> >>>> Fred, AE6QL >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to va3mw at portcredit.net >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to w0eb at cox.net > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevin.stover at mediacombb.net > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From Rwit502 at aol.com Fri Jun 10 21:20:35 2016 From: Rwit502 at aol.com (Rick Whitworth) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 18:20:35 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K1 E42 error msg Message-ID: <1465608035326-7618759.post@n2.nabble.com> I have an older K1 that has been working fine but now i get an E42 error msg which the manual says is a vfo issue. Visual inspection show nothing obvious. has anyone had this problem before .i hope to save some time with any suggestions i can get here first. thanks Rick ...W4BDI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K1-E42-error-msg-tp7618759.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From donwilh at embarqmail.com Fri Jun 10 21:53:13 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:53:13 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K1 E42 error msg In-Reply-To: <1465608035326-7618759.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1465608035326-7618759.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Rick, Yes, E42 says that the MCU is not detecting a signal from the VFO. You can try re-flowing the soldering in the VFO area. If that does not restore proper operation, then more in-depth troubleshooting is required. Try DC voltage checks at Q8 for starters - the drain should be at 6 volts, and the source should be less than 1 volt. The gate should be a small negative voltage if Q8 is oscillating. If those values are OK, then it may be that the buffer (Q8) is not sending the VFO frequency to the MCU. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/10/2016 9:20 PM, Rick Whitworth via Elecraft wrote: > I have an older K1 that has been working fine but now i get an E42 error msg > which the manual says is a vfo issue. Visual inspection show nothing > obvious. has anyone had this problem before .i hope to save some time > with any suggestions i can get here first. > > thanks > > Rick ...W4BDI > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K1-E42-error-msg-tp7618759.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com > From ron at cobi.biz Fri Jun 10 23:14:37 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 20:14:37 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the Western US In-Reply-To: References: <00a501d1c353$1d41abc0$57c50340$@earthlink.net> <4606e547-27c1-a0fc-001f-ba7f75fb0e58@triconet.org> <5AFx1t00f45oxQM01AFy88> Message-ID: <000901d1c38f$6373fb20$2a5bf160$@biz> I notice that you should see no interference unless you are several thousand feet above ground level from San Francisco to the Mexican Border in California and in extreme western Arizona or southern Nevada. Not a huge area for those of us on the earth itself. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Stover Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 4:46 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the Western US You forgot to add "and are related to Kevin Bacon". On 6/10/2016 5:32 PM, Jim Sheldon wrote: > Actually it Is of concern to all K3 and K3S owners in and close to the affected area who use GPS disciplined oscillators to enhance frequency accuracy and stability via the K3EXREF module. > > Jim - W0EB > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jun 10, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Michael Walker wrote: >> >> >> It really isn't an Elecraft issue. :) >> >> Mike va3mw >> >> >>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: >>> >>> How times have changed. Back in 1997, when I was working as a >>> contractor for my old company, Hughes Missile Systems (now >>> Raytheon), I worked on implementing some jamming tests on the >>> Tomahawk missile GPS. FWIW, we put the missile section on a wooden >>> pedestal covered in RF absorber on top of the rotating plate (also >>> covered in absorber cones) under "The Arc" as seen >>> here: >>> http://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/test-facility-at-ft-huachuca-as >>> sures-working-communications-equipment-for-soldiers >>> >>> Just for giggles, I climbed (took the stairs) "The Red Tower", the >>> top of which would contain a good sized ham shack. The tower is >>> completely wooden and held together by fiberglass bolts. The "dish" >>> that is behind the guy being interviewed is actually a shaped >>> reflector that in combination with a horn located below ground level >>> forms a folded "compact" range, for those who understand such >>> things. The leaning airfoil shaped tower holds the test subject at >>> the plane-wave focal point of the reflector. An M1 Abrams tank can be supported and rotated on top of this tower. >>> >>> We had to do our testing in the wee hours of the morning, with >>> secure communications links to range people who could tell us to >>> shut down at a moments notice and our jammers were on a, few minutes >>> on-lots of minutes off schedule. >>> >>> Wes N7WS >>> >>> >>>> On 6/10/2016 1:03 PM, Fred Townsend wrote: >>>> >>>> This Is Likely Why The Navy Is Causing A Massive And Mysterious GPS >>>> Outage In The Western US - The Drive >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3865/this-is-likely-why-the-na >>>> vy-is-cau >>>> sing-a-massive-and-mysterious-gps-outage-in-the-western-us >>>> >>>> Fred, AE6QL >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >>> email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >>> va3mw at portcredit.net >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >> email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >> w0eb at cox.net > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > kevin.stover at mediacombb.net > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From don.field at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 01:53:13 2016 From: don.field at gmail.com (Don Field) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 06:53:13 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 LPF T/R switch rework In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My thanks to those who respondedm especially Tom K1TL - we now have the info we need - great service! 73 Don G3XTT On 10 June 2016 at 17:16, Don Field wrote: > I wonder whether anyone on here can answer the following query from my > friend Mike G3WPH please (he's not on this reflector but I'll QSP any > replies): > > *I?m installing Elecraft parts kit E850607 into a KPA500 for a friend. All > went well until I reached instruction 3 which says ?Verify that R3 is a > Zener Diode Elecraft part E560074. If it is not remove and replace with the > provided diode? Unfortunately the instructions have no information about > the zener orientation and I don?t have a circuit diagram. I?ve verified R3 > is a 100k resistor.* > > > > *I?m guessing that others have already come across this problem and can > help. I can?t find any information on the web and not being a Elecraft user > don?t have access to any of their mailing lists.* > > > > *Thanks for any help,* > > *Mike /G3WPH* > > > 73 Don G3XTT > From Andy at rickham.net Sat Jun 11 04:04:13 2016 From: Andy at rickham.net (Andy McMullin) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 09:04:13 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the Western US In-Reply-To: References: <8c52036ed8ea76af26d8e0f6945fca3f.squirrel@mail3.fairfaxva.net> <575B2800.5030804@comcast.net> <005b01d1c35c$141086d0$3c319470$@biz> Message-ID: <31138CDF-E981-49B1-8A1D-C3276870730B@rickham.net> Disrupting isn?t the same as turning off! As was found during a test over here, a number of systems rely upon GPS time signals and can happily revert to their own internal clock for a while if the GPS is off ? but not if the GPS signal is disrupted. The primary network clock for the main broadband supplier in the country was an example. Personally I?d prefer to fly in a plane where there?s an alternative that?s been tried and tested in the [OK, it seem unlikely at the moment] event that the GPS system gets fried. Andy > On 10 Jun 2016, at 22:56, Kevin - K4VD wrote: > > Testing and practice all make sense but what isn't making sense about this > is that we're disrupting GPS. Lots of stuff other than military rely on GPS > and - just my humble opinion - It seems a little freaky that they are > testing commercial aircraft. > > Wouldn't as valid a test simply be to turn off the GPS receiver? I mean > testing for a power outage at a commercial data center doesn't require > turning off power to the city. > > It all kind of seems strange to me. > > Kev > > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > >> When I was servicing shipboard electronics systems in the 90's, one of my >> regular "charges" as a civilian contractor was the Naval Hospital ship USNS >> Mercy ported in San Francisco, CA. I went to sea on her several times to >> check/calibrate nav systems, radars, direction finders, GPS gear, etc. >> under >> operational conditions. >> >> On one trip I noticed officers on the grabbing sextants and heading out >> onto >> the bridge wings. I asked the Captain if the US Navy still used sextants to >> navigate in this day and age. He smiled and said, "If we go to war, most of >> that stuff up there (pointing to the sky) will be disabled in the first >> hour. My officers will know how to get us wherever we're needed without >> it!" >> >> >> 73, Ron AC7AC >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of >> brian >> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 1:50 PM >> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the >> Western US >> >> Related to this. The Naval Academy has started teaching Celestial >> Navigation again. It had been discontinued. >> >> The Coast Guard never discontinued it. >> >> I also understand the old surplussed 10 kW Collins HF transmitters are >> being >> reacquired by the military. Can teaching of CW be next? >> >> 73 de Brian/K3KO >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to kevin at k4vd.net >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to andy at rickham.net From w7ox at socal.rr.com Sat Jun 11 04:14:25 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 01:14:25 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD2 Vs. KXPD3 Message-ID: I just received my KX2, and have planned to add the KXPD2 as soon as it is available. No KXPD3 on hand because I use a Begali Adventure with my KX3. But for the KX2 I'd like a paddle with a smaller profile. My KX2 order included a KXPD2, but I see from photos here and there that the KXPD3 looks nice on the KX2. So now I'm wondering if I should get the KXPD3 for my KX2, rather than the KXPD2. My questions are (and hopefully the KX2 field testers have had a shot at using the KXPD2): * What are the differences between these two options? I see the KXPD3 is $20 or so higher in price, but I'm more interested in construction and performance (how they feel) differences. * Is one easier to use than the other, or is the only plus of the KXPD2 its smaller size? * Are there other factors I should consider? Since I've not used the KXPD3, I'm pretty much in the dark -- so any input appreciated! 73, Phil W7OX From dm4im at t-online.de Sat Jun 11 07:35:32 2016 From: dm4im at t-online.de (Martin) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 13:35:32 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] Dead K3 RX, no Power Out Message-ID: <575BF784.5010306@t-online.de> 'Crafters, i have a 7 year old K3 #28xx causing me a headache. I built this (and other K3s) myself and modified it quite often, so am fairly familiar with it's innards. The issue is a dead RX ( no signals on any band, just noise from spkr) and no power out on any band ( display shows 0.0 Watts) after - say 30 minutes - of just running in rx . When i hit the case with my hand - like a slap - rx comes back to life and power out works again. I suspect something has come loose causing a slack joint. Something that is involved in RX AND TX. So where should i check? Probably the synth boards? Thanks. -- Ohne CW ist es nur CB.. 73, Martin DM4iM From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sat Jun 11 07:51:16 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 07:51:16 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Dead K3 RX, no Power Out In-Reply-To: <575BF784.5010306@t-online.de> References: <575BF784.5010306@t-online.de> Message-ID: <058de768-ca73-aa68-1dcd-132566258e1c@embarqmail.com> Martin, I would try giving each of the TMP cables a slight twist. Secondly, I would remove and reseat the front panel board. No guarantee that will correct it, but it is a good starting point. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/11/2016 7:35 AM, Martin wrote: > 'Crafters, > > i have a 7 year old K3 #28xx causing me a headache. I built this (and > other K3s) myself and modified it quite often, so am fairly familiar > with it's innards. > > The issue is a dead RX ( no signals on any band, just noise from spkr) > and no power out on any band ( display shows 0.0 Watts) after - say 30 > minutes - of just running in rx . When i hit the case with my hand - > like a slap - rx comes back to life and power out works again. I > suspect something has come loose causing a slack joint. Something that > is involved in RX AND TX. > So where should i check? Probably the synth boards? From alsopb at comcast.net Sat Jun 11 07:56:31 2016 From: alsopb at comcast.net (brian) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 11:56:31 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 RX protection Message-ID: <575BFC6F.10302@comcast.net> Really screwed up. I was using a pulse generator (5 V, 50 ns wide, 10 milliseconds between pulses) to look at the health of the antennas/coax. Connected it to the wrong coax. Result it went into the K3. First indication something was wrong: The the scope traces looked goofy. Oh ###!!!! Happy to say the K3 appears to have survived without apparent damage. Don't do this at home. 73 de Brian/K3KO From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sat Jun 11 07:56:48 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 07:56:48 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] KXPD2 Vs. KXPD3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0770eade-ccc0-93d7-a324-eb8cf1cdf289@embarqmail.com> Phil, The KXPD2 has shorter "arms" than the KXPD3. When presenting the KX2 at FDIM he mentioned that he 'slaps' the paddles and that caused his KX3 to 'walk' as he is keying. The KXPD2 with its shorter arms reduces that 'walking' significantly. That may or may not be applicable to you, but it will be to some hams. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/11/2016 4:14 AM, Phil Wheeler w7ox at socal.rr.com [KX3] wrote: > > I just received my KX2, and have planned to add the KXPD2 as soon as > it is available. No KXPD3 on hand because I use a Begali Adventure > with my KX3. But for the KX2 I'd like a paddle with a smaller profile. > > My KX2 order included a KXPD2, but I see from photos here and there > that the KXPD3 looks nice on the KX2. > > So now I'm wondering if I should get the KXPD3 for my KX2, rather than > the KXPD2. My questions are (and hopefully the KX2 field testers have > had a shot at using the KXPD2): > > * What are the differences between these two options? I see the > KXPD3 is $20 or so higher in price, but I'm more interested in > construction and performance (how they feel) differences. > * Is one easier to use than the other, or is the only plus of the > KXPD2 its smaller size? > * Are there other factors I should consider? > > Since I've not used the KXPD3, I'm pretty much in the dark -- so any > input appreciated! > > From rodenkirch_llc at msn.com Sat Jun 11 08:49:31 2016 From: rodenkirch_llc at msn.com (Jim Rodenkirch) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 05:49:31 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] Adding TX/RX "Relay" to KX3 Operation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1465649371981-7618768.post@n2.nabble.com> You could spend money here: https://www.dxengineering.com/parts/dxe-rtr-1 or, you could spend money here: http://www.mfjenterprises.com/Product.php?productid=MFJ-1707 OR, homebrew a ckt.....I'm certain a reader or two here has done that and can provide you the details.....72 de Jim R. K9JWV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-Adding-TX-RX-Relay-to-KX3-Operation-tp7618747p7618768.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From va3mw at portcredit.net Sat Jun 11 09:01:53 2016 From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Mike va3mw) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 09:01:53 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] Adding TX/RX "Relay" to KX3 Operation In-Reply-To: <1465649371981-7618768.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1465649371981-7618768.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <2E001E5C-22D6-4990-9422-AA2E56252CE7@portcredit.net> I would use the RTR1 for many reasons including the fact it is bullet proof. Mike va3mw > On Jun 11, 2016, at 8:49 AM, Jim Rodenkirch wrote: > > You could spend money here: https://www.dxengineering.com/parts/dxe-rtr-1 > > or, you could spend money here: > http://www.mfjenterprises.com/Product.php?productid=MFJ-1707 > > OR, homebrew a ckt.....I'm certain a reader or two here has done that and > can provide you the details.....72 de Jim R. K9JWV > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-Adding-TX-RX-Relay-to-KX3-Operation-tp7618747p7618768.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to va3mw at portcredit.net From w7ox at socal.rr.com Sat Jun 11 11:06:01 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 08:06:01 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] KXPD2 Vs. KXPD3 In-Reply-To: <0770eade-ccc0-93d7-a324-eb8cf1cdf289@embarqmail.com> References: <0770eade-ccc0-93d7-a324-eb8cf1cdf289@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <6aee2566-feaa-f0cf-c09e-3e0d3ac56e16@socal.rr.com> Thanks, Don. Just the sort of input I'm looking for: I am a paddle slapper -- and one reason I don't plan to use the Begali Adventure, since it sticks out even farther. 73, Phil W7OX On 6/11/16 4:56 AM, Don Wilhelm donwilh at embarqmail.com [KX3] wrote: > Phil, > > The KXPD2 has shorter "arms" than the KXPD3. > When presenting the KX2 at FDIM he mentioned that he 'slaps' the paddles > and that caused his KX3 to 'walk' as he is keying. > The KXPD2 with its shorter arms reduces that 'walking' significantly. > > That may or may not be applicable to you, but it will be to some hams. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 6/11/2016 4:14 AM, Phil Wheeler w7ox at socal.rr.com [KX3] wrote: >> I just received my KX2, and have planned to add the KXPD2 as soon as >> it is available. No KXPD3 on hand because I use a Begali Adventure >> with my KX3. But for the KX2 I'd like a paddle with a smaller profile. >> >> My KX2 order included a KXPD2, but I see from photos here and there >> that the KXPD3 looks nice on the KX2. >> >> So now I'm wondering if I should get the KXPD3 for my KX2, rather than >> the KXPD2. My questions are (and hopefully the KX2 field testers have >> had a shot at using the KXPD2): >> >> * What are the differences between these two options? I see the >> KXPD3 is $20 or so higher in price, but I'm more interested in >> construction and performance (how they feel) differences. >> * Is one easier to use than the other, or is the only plus of the >> KXPD2 its smaller size? >> * Are there other factors I should consider? >> >> Since I've not used the KXPD3, I'm pretty much in the dark -- so any >> input appreciated! From ron at cobi.biz Sat Jun 11 11:37:01 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 08:37:01 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD2 Vs. KXPD3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000901d1c3f7$19918280$4cb48780$@biz> In addition to Don's observation about the length of the paddles (and so the tendency to move the rig around on the desk while slapping away), so far the KXPD2 does not have an option of heavy or light springs. As a bit of a "slapper" myself, I never saw the need for lighter or heavier springs, but I know that is of concern to some. Also, the KXPD2 features a special anti-vibration treatment of the adjustment screws that helps keep them in place. And lastly, only ONE wrench is required to adjust he contact spacing, and that wrench has a stowage location on the bottom of the paddles so it's always handy. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil Wheeler Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:14 AM To: Elecraft Reflector; KX3 at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD2 Vs. KXPD3 I just received my KX2, and have planned to add the KXPD2 as soon as it is available. No KXPD3 on hand because I use a Begali Adventure with my KX3. But for the KX2 I'd like a paddle with a smaller profile. My KX2 order included a KXPD2, but I see from photos here and there that the KXPD3 looks nice on the KX2. So now I'm wondering if I should get the KXPD3 for my KX2, rather than the KXPD2. My questions are (and hopefully the KX2 field testers have had a shot at using the KXPD2): * What are the differences between these two options? I see the KXPD3 is $20 or so higher in price, but I'm more interested in construction and performance (how they feel) differences. * Is one easier to use than the other, or is the only plus of the KXPD2 its smaller size? * Are there other factors I should consider? Since I've not used the KXPD3, I'm pretty much in the dark -- so any input appreciated! 73, Phil W7OX ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From cbjesseeNH at comcast.net Sat Jun 11 11:49:08 2016 From: cbjesseeNH at comcast.net (MaverickNH) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 08:49:08 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] AF-1 Rev A - J2 AF Out Looks Different? Message-ID: <1465660148934-7618771.post@n2.nabble.com> I'm building the Elecraft AF-1 Audio Filter. My PCB has "REV A" printed lower left. I see pictures of a "REV XA" on the web, but mine definitely say "REV A" only. The "REV B" manual http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740102%20AF1%20Active%20Audio%20Filter%20Rev%20B.pdf shows that modifications are needed at both J1 AF IN and J@ AF OUT jacks, I did the J1 - AF In mod, but see that my PCB is different than that shown in the REV B manual. The manual show this http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c290/cbjesseeNH/AF-1-2_zpsfzrvndif.jpg My PCB board looks like this http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c290/cbjesseeNH/AF-1-1_zpsxstny3c8.jpg The reason for the mods are given as: The PC Board traces for the AF1?s audio input jack J1 and output jack J2 were wired to only the ?ring? connection of the stereo tip-ring-sleeve jacks. If you are using stereo mini-phone cables this will not cause a problem, but a mono plug will not provide any audio into the AF1 as the J1 ?tip? is unconnected. Additionally, the AF1 J2 Output jack should have the tip and ring connections wired together so that stereo headphones work correctly. Saturday and Elecraft is closed, so I thought I'd ask advice here, thanks. BRET/KC1CJN -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/AF-1-Rev-A-J2-AF-Out-Looks-Different-tp7618771.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From w7ox at socal.rr.com Sat Jun 11 11:49:14 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 08:49:14 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD2 Vs. KXPD3 In-Reply-To: <000901d1c3f7$19918280$4cb48780$@biz> References: <000901d1c3f7$19918280$4cb48780$@biz> Message-ID: Sounds like ordering the KXPD2 was the right move for me, Ron. Good to have the confirmation from you and Don. 73, Phil W7OX On 6/11/16 8:37 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > In addition to Don's observation about the length of the paddles (and so the > tendency to move the rig around on the desk while slapping away), so far the > KXPD2 does not have an option of heavy or light springs. As a bit of a > "slapper" myself, I never saw the need for lighter or heavier springs, but I > know that is of concern to some. > > Also, the KXPD2 features a special anti-vibration treatment of the > adjustment screws that helps keep them in place. > > And lastly, only ONE wrench is required to adjust he contact spacing, and > that wrench has a stowage location on the bottom of the paddles so it's > always handy. > > 73, Ron AC7AC > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil > Wheeler > Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:14 AM > To: Elecraft Reflector; KX3 at yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD2 Vs. KXPD3 > > I just received my KX2, and have planned to add the KXPD2 as soon as it is > available. No KXPD3 on hand because I use a Begali Adventure with my KX3. > But for the KX2 I'd like a paddle with a smaller profile. > > My KX2 order included a KXPD2, but I see from photos here and there that the > KXPD3 looks nice on the KX2. > > So now I'm wondering if I should get the KXPD3 for my KX2, rather than the > KXPD2. My questions are (and hopefully the KX2 field testers have had a shot > at using the KXPD2): > > * What are the differences between these two > options? I see the KXPD3 is $20 or so higher > in price, but I'm more interested in > construction and performance (how they feel) > differences. > * Is one easier to use than the other, or is the > only plus of the KXPD2 its smaller size? > * Are there other factors I should consider? > > Since I've not used the KXPD3, I'm pretty much in the dark -- so any input > appreciated! > > 73, Phil W7OX From nr4c at widomaker.com Sat Jun 11 12:38:37 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 12:38:37 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD2 Vs. KXPD3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7FE0F764-DF6C-4F4C-BA85-14A3359FFFF0@widomaker.com> The KXPD2 is smaller and a newer design. I'd wait for the new one. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jun 11, 2016, at 4:14 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > > I just received my KX2, and have planned to add the KXPD2 as soon as it is available. No KXPD3 on hand because I use a Begali Adventure with my KX3. But for the KX2 I'd like a paddle with a smaller profile. > > My KX2 order included a KXPD2, but I see from photos here and there that the KXPD3 looks nice on the KX2. > > So now I'm wondering if I should get the KXPD3 for my KX2, rather than the KXPD2. My questions are (and hopefully the KX2 field testers have had a shot at using the KXPD2): > > * What are the differences between these two > options? I see the KXPD3 is $20 or so higher > in price, but I'm more interested in > construction and performance (how they feel) > differences. > * Is one easier to use than the other, or is the > only plus of the KXPD2 its smaller size? > * Are there other factors I should consider? > > Since I've not used the KXPD3, I'm pretty much in the dark -- so any input appreciated! > > 73, Phil W7OX > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From ron at cobi.biz Sat Jun 11 12:50:29 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 09:50:29 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] AF-1 Rev A - J2 AF Out Looks Different? In-Reply-To: <1465660148934-7618771.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1465660148934-7618771.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <001f01d1c401$5cbc49f0$1634ddd0$@biz> HI Bret: I don't see the difference other than your image being rotated 90 degrees. It's common for the boards to get revised and the manual is not updated if the changes don't require a change to the assembly instructions. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of MaverickNH Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 8:49 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] AF-1 Rev A - J2 AF Out Looks Different? I'm building the Elecraft AF-1 Audio Filter. My PCB has "REV A" printed lower left. I see pictures of a "REV XA" on the web, but mine definitely say "REV A" only. The "REV B" manual http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740102%20AF1%20Active%20Audio%20Filter%20Rev%20B.pdf shows that modifications are needed at both J1 AF IN and J@ AF OUT jacks, I did the J1 - AF In mod, but see that my PCB is different than that shown in the REV B manual. The manual show this http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c290/cbjesseeNH/AF-1-2_zpsfzrvndif.jpg My PCB board looks like this http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c290/cbjesseeNH/AF-1-1_zpsxstny3c8.jpg The reason for the mods are given as: The PC Board traces for the AF1?s audio input jack J1 and output jack J2 were wired to only the ?ring? connection of the stereo tip-ring-sleeve jacks. If you are using stereo mini-phone cables this will not cause a problem, but a mono plug will not provide any audio into the AF1 as the J1 ?tip? is unconnected. Additionally, the AF1 J2 Output jack should have the tip and ring connections wired together so that stereo headphones work correctly. Saturday and Elecraft is closed, so I thought I'd ask advice here, thanks. BRET/KC1CJN -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/AF-1-Rev-A-J2-AF-Out-Looks-Different-tp7618771.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From cbjesseenh at comcast.net Sat Jun 11 13:46:58 2016 From: cbjesseenh at comcast.net (Charles) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 17:46:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] AF-1 Rev A - J2 AF Out Looks Different? In-Reply-To: <001f01d1c401$5cbc49f0$1634ddd0$@biz> References: <1465660148934-7618771.post@n2.nabble.com> <001f01d1c401$5cbc49f0$1634ddd0$@biz> Message-ID: <758028175.6110471.1465667218155.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Hi Ron, Now that I look, I guess the PCB change has the same circuit once I solder the jumper. Thanks for the keen eyes! 73, BRET/KC1CJN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" To: "MaverickNH" , elecraft at mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:50:29 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] AF-1 Rev A - J2 AF Out Looks Different? HI Bret: I don't see the difference other than your image being rotated 90 degrees. It's common for the boards to get revised and the manual is not updated if the changes don't require a change to the assembly instructions. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of MaverickNH Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 8:49 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] AF-1 Rev A - J2 AF Out Looks Different? I'm building the Elecraft AF-1 Audio Filter. My PCB has "REV A" printed lower left. I see pictures of a "REV XA" on the web, but mine definitely say "REV A" only. The "REV B" manual http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740102%20AF1%20Active%20Audio%20Filter%20Rev%20B.pdf shows that modifications are needed at both J1 AF IN and J@ AF OUT jacks, I did the J1 - AF In mod, but see that my PCB is different than that shown in the REV B manual. The manual show this http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c290/cbjesseeNH/AF-1-2_zpsfzrvndif.jpg My PCB board looks like this http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c290/cbjesseeNH/AF-1-1_zpsxstny3c8.jpg The reason for the mods are given as: The PC Board traces for the AF1?s audio input jack J1 and output jack J2 were wired to only the ?ring? connection of the stereo tip-ring-sleeve jacks. If you are using stereo mini-phone cables this will not cause a problem, but a mono plug will not provide any audio into the AF1 as the J1 ?tip? is unconnected. Additionally, the AF1 J2 Output jack should have the tip and ring connections wired together so that stereo headphones work correctly. Saturday and Elecraft is closed, so I thought I'd ask advice here, thanks. BRET/KC1CJN -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/AF-1-Rev-A-J2-AF-Out-Looks-Different-tp7618771.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From cbjesseeNH at comcast.net Sat Jun 11 14:35:28 2016 From: cbjesseeNH at comcast.net (MaverickNH) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 11:35:28 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] AF-1 Rev A - J2 AF Out Looks Different? In-Reply-To: <758028175.6110471.1465667218155.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> References: <1465660148934-7618771.post@n2.nabble.com> <758028175.6110471.1465667218155.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1465670128279-7618775.post@n2.nabble.com> Confirmed! I finished the build and it works just fine. Quite a nice filter - adds a lot to the KX-1 (or takes a lot away of the noise, I should say). BRET/KC1CJN -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/AF-1-Rev-A-J2-AF-Out-Looks-Different-tp7618771p7618775.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From n6kr at elecraft.com Sat Jun 11 16:11:09 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 13:11:09 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] KXPD2 Vs. KXPD3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5A782F47-D5E2-42E4-A781-7ECE5D06B00F@elecraft.com> Hi Phil, We're getting close to shipping KXPD2s. We made some minor changes to the design, and we always extensively retest in this case to ensure high reliability in the field. I've been using my updated unit all over the place, from the storied riparian forests of San Mateo county to the 10% discounted Home Depot hammock in my back yard. The KXPD2 has the following features: - total length just 1.3" to minimized packed size - ultralight, 3-D printed polycarbonate housing - rounded-end paddles for comfortable use over a wide range of angles - vibration-resistant contact adjustment screws - allen wrench stores on the paddle for easy field adjustment - works with KX2 or KX3 73, Wayne N6KR On Jun 11, 2016, at 1:14 AM, "Phil Wheeler w7ox at socal.rr.com [KX3]" wrote: > I just received my KX2, and have planned to add the KXPD2 as soon as it is available. No KXPD3 on hand because I use a Begali Adventure with my KX3. But for the KX2 I'd like a paddle with a smaller profile. > > My KX2 order included a KXPD2, but I see from photos here and there that the KXPD3 looks nice on the KX2. > > So now I'm wondering if I should get the KXPD3 for my KX2, rather than the KXPD2. My questions are (and hopefully the KX2 field testers have had a shot at using the KXPD2): > > What are the differences between these two options? I see the KXPD3 is $20 or so higher in price, but I'm more interested in construction and performance (how they feel) differences. > Is one easier to use than the other, or is the only plus of the KXPD2 its smaller size? > Are there other factors I should consider? > Since I've not used the KXPD3, I'm pretty much in the dark -- so any input appreciated! > > 73, Phil W7OX > > > __._,_.___ > Posted by: Phil Wheeler > Reply via web post ? Reply to sender ? Reply to group ? Start a New Topic ? Messages in this topic (1) > > Have you tried the highest rated email app? > With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. > VISIT YOUR GROUP New Members 24 > ? Privacy ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use > . > > > __,_._,___ From n7dxtango at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 17:25:31 2016 From: n7dxtango at gmail.com (Gary Watson) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 21:25:31 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] 8 Pole Filters for Sale Message-ID: Hi, I have the following filters for sale KFL3A-250, $105.00 shipped to CONUSA KFL3A-1.8K, $120.00 shipped to CONUSA Paypal only pse. Please reply to n7dxtango at gmail dot com Gary Watson N7DXT Thank you From jeffvk4xa at gmail.com Sat Jun 11 19:38:43 2016 From: jeffvk4xa at gmail.com (Jeff Cochrane - VK4XA) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 16:38:43 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Cheap K3 For Sale - In VK. (Shipping to the US is available) Message-ID: <1465688323876-7618778.post@n2.nabble.com> A cheap K3 for sale. Factory built K3/100, serial #4767 Options installed: MH2 Microphone PR6 Low Noise (0.5 dB typ) 6m Preamp (50 to 54 MHz) KTCXO3-1 TCXO High Stability Reference Oscillator KDVR3 Digital Voice Recorder KBPF3A General Coverage RX Bandpass Module KXV3A Transverter Interface KFL3A-400 400 Hz, 8-pole filter KFL3A-1.8K 1.8 kHz, 8-pole filter KFL3A-2.1K 2.1 kHz, 8-pole filter KFL3A-2.8K 2.8 kHz, 8-pole filter KFL3B-FM 13 kHz FM/AM, 8-pole filter Manuals and Cables Yamaha CM500 headset AU$2800.00 + Freight. (About US$2100 + Freight) (Freight is about AU$200 (US$150) to the US of A) Paypal IS an option if you pay the fees, cold hard cash is great too! A swap for a Yaesu FT857D + cash would be considered. Contact me (Jeff) off list please at VK4XA at ARRL dot net. ----- Jeff Cochrane - VK4XA Innisfail, QLD, Australia. K3 #4767 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Cheap-K3-For-Sale-In-VK-Shipping-to-the-US-is-available-tp7618778.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From alan at wilcoxengineering.com Sat Jun 11 21:26:04 2016 From: alan at wilcoxengineering.com (Alan D. Wilcox) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 21:26:04 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 for Sale Message-ID: <9098AB2D-5399-4418-B8E2-9D780C6D908E@wilcoxengineering.com> Hello, As you know, I repair and tune Elecraft K2s, and I just finished a repair and tuneup two days ago for N5IA. When I called to let him know it was ready to ship back to him, I was appalled to find he had become a silent key the day before. See http://qrz.com for more info from his son. His widow asked me to sell the radio, which I now offer to you. K2-849, vintage 1998 or so Latest K2 ver 2.04 and 1.09 firmware ( f/w ) Tuned and working nicely, but NOT updated New finals just installed Options: KDSP2, 3.18 f/w K160RX KNB2 KAT2, 1.03 f/w KIO2 KBT2 (without battery) KSB2, 1.04 f/w Interested? I can send you a link to photos. Sorry, I?m not selling pieces. I can make changes or updates for you if you want, but only after your purchase. Price? Best fair offer that I can return to the family. Please reply directly to me off list. Alan Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX (K2-5373, K3-40) 570-478-0736 (cell, text) http://WilcoxEngineering.com http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6768 ... Elecraft Client Comments http://amazon.com/author/alandwilcox Williamsport, PA 17701 From Gary at ka1j.com Sat Jun 11 23:17:02 2016 From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 23:17:02 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] This will effect pilots and Hams throughout the Western US In-Reply-To: <1465599067.3742.17.camel@nk7z.net> References: <00a501d1c353$1d41abc0$57c50340$@earthlink.net>, , <1465599067.3742.17.camel@nk7z.net> Message-ID: <575CD42E.1581.35A03B2F@Gary.ka1j.com> As a precaution for those in the affected area using the K3EXREF module, you might go to ref cal, wait for the asterisk to flash, hit A/B once and disconnect the GPS till the test is over. 73, Gary KA1J > On Fri, 2016-06-10 at 17:32 -0500, Jim Sheldon wrote: > > Actually it Is of concern to all K3 and K3S owners in and close to the > > affected area who use GPS disciplined oscillators to enhance frequency > > accuracy and stability via the K3EXREF module. > > > > Jim - W0EB From jwebsterlsu at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 01:44:30 2016 From: jwebsterlsu at gmail.com (John W Webster) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 22:44:30 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Net Announcement & Report Message-ID: <73ACBB1E-C254-4E26-ADF7-F560FF5FB96E@dslextreme.com> The weekly Sunday Elecraft SSB Net will be held on 20m, 14.303.5 at 18:00z (UTC). Hopefully, Jim, W4RKS or Ian KM4IK, will be net control for this week, as Eric is unavailable, and Jim (NC0JW) and I (N6JW), who often help out, will not be back in time. Please find below the check-in list for last weeks' Elecraft SSB net, supplied by Eric, WB9JNZ, who was net control. 73 John, N6JW Elecraft SSB Net 6-15-2016 WB9JNZ Eric IL K3 4017 Net Control N6JW John CA K3 936 KD8SPX Wayne TX IC 7100 KX3 7450 NC0JW Jim CO KX3 1356 W3EN0 Buzz NY K3 1551 W5MLM Mark TX K3 8673 AB7CE Roy MT KX2 153 QRP W4RKS Jim TX K3 3618 K4KAY Earl NC K3S 10326 KK6DA David CA K3S 10125 WM6P Steve GA K3 8133 K6WVE Stan MI K3 650 W4PFM Paul VA K3 1673 N4NRW Roger SC K3 1318 KC0TRK Jim CO K3S 10612 N2LRB Jose NY FT 950 NS7P Phil OR K3 1826 K6WVD John NV KX3 8046 W0CZ Ken ND K3S 10329 WB5JJA Ray OK K3 7877 K6UDA Bob CA K3S 10372 KN5L John TX KX2 80 QRP WB4OOA Ron NC K3S 10684 WV5I Duane TX K3 5287 AE6JV Bill CA K3 6299 N1RCX Eric VT IC 7100 1ST TIME CHECK IN K4FI Doug SC K3 6299 W6ELA Edward CA KX3 5463 K6TAA Tom CA KX3 8312 QRP VA7ZOO Bill BC KX3 3035 From kb2m at arrl.net Sun Jun 12 09:12:38 2016 From: kb2m at arrl.net (Jeff Griffin) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 09:12:38 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] for sale k3 In-Reply-To: <575CD42E.1581.35A03B2F@Gary.ka1j.com> References: <00a501d1c353$1d41abc0$57c50340$@earthlink.net>, , <1465599067.3742.17.camel@nk7z.net> <575CD42E.1581.35A03B2F@Gary.ka1j.com> Message-ID: <062701d1c4ac$18b5c640$4a2152c0$@net> I have a K3/10 serial 1516, along with a 2m module and a 2.1 filter that is in excess to my needs. All mods are up to date. Asking price is 2000$ shipped CONUS. I will ship elsewhere, shipping will be actual cost. 73 Jeff kb2m From kd1na363 at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 10:25:43 2016 From: kd1na363 at gmail.com (David Robertson) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 10:25:43 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Dead Message-ID: Martin. I am not sure when Elecraft correct the front panel connector problem but your K3 may have some tin plated plugs on the main RF board that plugs into the DSB board in the front panel Remove the K3 front panel assembly and check the plug on the RF board ( the one that is long with many pins ) and see if it is gold plated or not. There is a smaller connector that will be in line with the larger one that would also be tin plated. If you find this contact Elecraft Support for a connector replacement kit. 73 -- Dave Robertson KD1NA From kb2m at arrl.net Sun Jun 12 10:34:17 2016 From: kb2m at arrl.net (Jeff Griffin) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 10:34:17 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] for sale k3 Message-ID: <066001d1c4b7$804af3b0$80e0db10$@net> I also meant to say 2000$ or best offer.... 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Griffin Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:13 AM To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] for sale k3 I have a K3/10 serial 1516, along with a 2m module and a 2.1 filter that is in excess to my needs. All mods are up to date. Asking price is 2000$ shipped CONUS. I will ship elsewhere, shipping will be actual cost. 73 Jeff kb2m From idarack at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 11:41:11 2016 From: idarack at gmail.com (KD3TB) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 11:41:11 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S and P3 Signal S-Meter scales do not matching Message-ID: <000901d1c4c0$d91f7f20$8b5e7d60$@com> I recently installed the SVGA option in my P3 and noticed that the S-Meter scales on the P3 and SVGA do not match the S-Meter scales on the K3S radio. I probably paid no attention to this before. With the SVGA and a large monitor it is much more noticeable. Hence when I have a signal that is a S-20 (Receive) on the K3S meter, the P3 and SVGA only show the signal as a S3. I am sure there is a way to get them to match in the menu settings? Thanks, Irwin KD3TB From dan.boardman at shreditfast.com Sun Jun 12 12:16:25 2016 From: dan.boardman at shreditfast.com (Dan Boardman) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 16:16:25 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] WTB: KX2 UsED In-Reply-To: <066001d1c4b7$804af3b0$80e0db10$@net> References: <066001d1c4b7$804af3b0$80e0db10$@net> Message-ID: <12B13D2C29AFFE44B60C83DC6B79921F66F45B44@MBX023-W1-CA-4.exch023.domain.local> Yes I am well aware that Elecraft has these in stock for shipping. If by CHANCE someone has purchased a KX2 and for one reason or another wants to sell it I would be interested in purchasing it. Please email me directly with any offers. Thanks much, one never knows! Dan - NB1C dan.boardman at shreditfast.com From mike at ki8r.com Sun Jun 12 12:29:09 2016 From: mike at ki8r.com (Michael Murphy) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 12:29:09 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KSYN3A INSTALL Message-ID: I am about to install a new synthesizer board in my K3. I do not have the 2nd rx or a 2 meter module. I am not clear on which connector(s) to hook the tmp connector(s) to. The instructions seem to be more geared toward installing it with the 2nd rx and/or the 2 meter module. What am I missing? -- ----------------------------------------------- *Michael Murphy - KI8R* mike at ki8r.com www.ki8r.com *614-371-8265 (cell)* ----------------------------------------------- From alsopb at comcast.net Sun Jun 12 13:10:30 2016 From: alsopb at comcast.net (brian) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 17:10:30 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] OT- FS Bodnar GPS Ref Osc Message-ID: <575D9786.9060404@comcast.net> Great for locking K3 master osc. 450Hz to 800 MHz, programmable. Low phase noise. See http://www.force12inc.com/products/gps-locked-precision-frequency-reference-low-jitter-gps-clock-450-hz-to-800-mhz-output.html Two outputs available. Second output can be a different frequency. USB powered or external power. Once setup, computer not needed. $195 shipped. de Brian/K3KO From lstavenhagen at hotmail.com Sun Jun 12 13:21:21 2016 From: lstavenhagen at hotmail.com (lstavenhagen) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 10:21:21 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KSYN3A INSTALL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1465752081154-7618789.post@n2.nabble.com> It would be the graphic in figure 12 on page 15 of the instructions. It hooks up with just one tmp cable and the long one isn't used. It all looked like spaghetti to me too when I did the upgrade on my K3, but that's the figure that shows the hookup for no 2 meter module and no 2nd RX..... 73, LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KSYN3A-INSTALL-tp7618787p7618789.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From richei at elecraft.com Sun Jun 12 13:25:59 2016 From: richei at elecraft.com (Rich Heineck) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 10:25:59 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KSYN3A INSTALL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <575D9B27.2090409@elecraft.com> Use a 5" or 6" TMP cable and hook it from J6 on the KREF3 (same as old synth) to either J83 or J1 on the KSYN3A. 73, Rich AC7MA On 06/12/2016 09:29 AM, Michael Murphy wrote: > I am about to install a new synthesizer board in my K3. I do not have the > 2nd rx or a 2 meter module. > > I am not clear on which connector(s) to hook the tmp connector(s) to. > > The instructions seem to be more geared toward installing it with the 2nd > rx and/or the 2 meter module. > > What am I missing? > From kevinr at coho.net Sun Jun 12 13:28:13 2016 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr at coho.net) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 10:28:13 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement Message-ID: <28cc4d2c-b42e-9ab1-4fff-4684c5b9008d@coho.net> Please join us on: 14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday) 7045 kHz at 0100z Monday (6 PM PDT Sunday) 73, Kevin. KD5ONS From lenecee at ca.rr.com Sun Jun 12 14:32:39 2016 From: lenecee at ca.rr.com (Len Chesler home email) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 11:32:39 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX! and KX3 for sale Message-ID: <377DC3B7-96E7-4CE6-A64F-F1C2C40D2AD0@ca.rr.com> I am selling two of my Elecraft field radios, both in excellent operating and physical condition. 1. KX1, S/N 00427 with 40, 30, and 20 meters. Includes: KXAT1 antenna tuner and KXPD1 iambic paddle. Also includes original manual. This unit was checked out by Don W3FPR and is a great radio to take out to the field. $375 includes USPS priority shipping CONUS 2. KX3-F, S/N 2749 with KXFL3 internal dual passband roofing filter, and KXAT3 internal tuner. I am also including a ThinkTan padded/protective carry case which fits the rig perfectly. This radio is in 9.5/10 condition and rarely used. Recent firmware download. Includes original manual, programing and power cable and amp keying cable. $1175 includes USPS priority shipping CONUS I will accept PayPal +3% or USPS money order. Not interested in trades. Reason for selling is just purchased KX2 and it better serves my current operating requirements. Tnx for looking, and if interested, please E-mail at K6LEN at arrl.net or phone 310.261-6696. 72/73 From km4ik.ian at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 14:33:20 2016 From: km4ik.ian at gmail.com (Ian Kahn) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:33:20 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Sideband Net Results Message-ID: Here are the results from today's net. Despite questionable band conditions, we still had 29 check-ins, including net control. Thanks to all stations that helped with relays today. km4ik ian ga k3 281 w4rks jim tx k3 3618 n7bdl terry az k3s 10373 w7lkg rick wa k3 4497 w6wgf jason tx ft-817 w8ov dave tx k3 3139 n5tbq stan tx ft-950 nq9v ramon nc k3 4416 k1nw brian ri k3 4974 k7brr bill az k3 5945 w9kg peter in k3s 10385 kf7jzh ron id kx3 2262 ka4rxp/m alex fl ft-897 n0pod don mo ft-897 k4fi doug sc k3 6199 kk6da david ca k3s 10125 k4gcj garry nc k3 1697 w4pfm paul va k3 1673 k5djo david tx kx3 6755 n0ce dick mn k3 5105 k8nu carl oh k3 7976 kj4zml tom ga k3 7931 w0cz ken nd k3s 10329 k4wp phil ga k3 1746 w4dml doug tn k3 6433 wa5rej alan tx k2 1803 w9ejb ken in k3 1593 wa6era tracy ca k3s 10299 n2ci joe nj k2 7670 73 de, --Ian Ian Kahn, KM4IK Roswell, GA EM74ua km4ik.ian at gmail.com 10-10 #74624 North Georgia Chapter #2038 PODXS 070 #1962 K3 #281, P3 #688 KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468 From ebasilier at cox.net Sun Jun 12 17:53:04 2016 From: ebasilier at cox.net (Erik Basilier) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:53:04 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 IMD vs DC input, using built-in 2 TONE Message-ID: <019b01d1c4f4$cc216520$64642f60$@cox.net> I am testing my KX3 / KXPA100 combo, looking at TX IMD and power output depending on the DC power supply characteristics. I am experimenting with a N8XJK Boost Regulator (40A max) as well as an Astron linear supply adjusted down to low voltage, simulating a run-down battery. To judge IMD I use the built-in 2 TONE, mix down sampled output to audio, and feed into Spectrum Lab. When I look at the envelope, its smallest amplitude is about 1/3 of peak. This suggests that the 2 tones are not of equal amplitude. Has anyone else seen this? I downloaded the laterst firmware about a week ago. Thanks, Erik K7TV From ebasilier at cox.net Sun Jun 12 17:55:31 2016 From: ebasilier at cox.net (Erik Basilier) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:55:31 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 IMD vs DC input, using built-in 2 TONE Message-ID: <01a001d1c4f5$23c74ab0$6b55e010$@cox.net> One more question: Assuming that the 2 tones are about 2:3 in amplitude ratio, can anyone say how that would be expected to affect the 3rd order IMD figures? From: Erik Basilier [mailto:ebasilier at cox.net] Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:53 PM To: 'Elecraft at mailman.qth.net' Subject: KX3 IMD vs DC input, using built-in 2 TONE I am testing my KX3 / KXPA100 combo, looking at TX IMD and power output depending on the DC power supply characteristics. I am experimenting with a N8XJK Boost Regulator (40A max) as well as an Astron linear supply adjusted down to low voltage, simulating a run-down battery. To judge IMD I use the built-in 2 TONE, mix down sampled output to audio, and feed into Spectrum Lab. When I look at the envelope, its smallest amplitude is about 1/3 of peak. This suggests that the 2 tones are not of equal amplitude. Has anyone else seen this? I downloaded the laterst firmware about a week ago. Thanks, Erik K7TV From ebasilier at cox.net Sun Jun 12 18:11:16 2016 From: ebasilier at cox.net (Erik Basilier) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 15:11:16 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 IMD vs DC input, using built-in 2 TONE In-Reply-To: <5xwe1t00A45oxQM01xwfwH> References: <5xwe1t00A45oxQM01xwfwH> Message-ID: <01a701d1c4f7$56f380a0$04da81e0$@cox.net> Of course, I don't mean that the nature of the 2 tones affect the IMD characteristics of the hardware. Rather, what I meant was: "if one measures IMD with a standard 1:1 amplitude ratio, and then measures again with a non-standard 2:3 ratio, how much would the IMD suppression number change, and in what direction?" I imagine that the answer could be found either by using independently adjustable external audio tone generators, or with a math package. -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Erik Basilier Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:56 PM To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 IMD vs DC input, using built-in 2 TONE One more question: Assuming that the 2 tones are about 2:3 in amplitude ratio, can anyone say how that would be expected to affect the 3rd order IMD figures? From: Erik Basilier [mailto:ebasilier at cox.net] Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:53 PM To: 'Elecraft at mailman.qth.net' Subject: KX3 IMD vs DC input, using built-in 2 TONE I am testing my KX3 / KXPA100 combo, looking at TX IMD and power output depending on the DC power supply characteristics. I am experimenting with a N8XJK Boost Regulator (40A max) as well as an Astron linear supply adjusted down to low voltage, simulating a run-down battery. To judge IMD I use the built-in 2 TONE, mix down sampled output to audio, and feed into Spectrum Lab. When I look at the envelope, its smallest amplitude is about 1/3 of peak. This suggests that the 2 tones are not of equal amplitude. Has anyone else seen this? I downloaded the laterst firmware about a week ago. Thanks, Erik K7TV ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ebasilier at cox.net From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Sun Jun 12 18:17:03 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 15:17:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 IMD vs DC input, using built-in 2 TONE In-Reply-To: <019b01d1c4f4$cc216520$64642f60$@cox.net> References: <019b01d1c4f4$cc216520$64642f60$@cox.net> Message-ID: Can't speak to the KX3, but for a K3(S) the mic gain equalizes the two tones. On 6/12/2016 2:53 PM, Erik Basilier wrote: > I am testing my KX3 / KXPA100 combo, looking at TX IMD and power output > depending on the DC power supply characteristics. I am experimenting with a > N8XJK Boost Regulator (40A max) as well as an Astron linear supply adjusted > down to low voltage, simulating a run-down battery. > > > > To judge IMD I use the built-in 2 TONE, mix down sampled output to audio, > and feed into Spectrum Lab. > > > > When I look at the envelope, its smallest amplitude is about 1/3 of peak. > This suggests that the 2 tones are not of equal amplitude. Has anyone else > seen this? I downloaded the laterst firmware about a week ago. > > > > Thanks, > > Erik K7TV > From seanc0x0 at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 18:35:33 2016 From: seanc0x0 at gmail.com (Sean Cavanaugh) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 16:35:33 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] [K3/100] Reduced power output on 6m Message-ID: Hi, I was mucking around in the VHF contest this afternoon and noticed that my K3/100 isn't putting out the power it should be on 6m. With the power control set to 100W, I am getting a maximum of about 60W. It is able to deliver 100W on 160 through 10, this is only an issue on 6. I have verified the power output with an external power meter. I ran through the TX gain calibration and it worked fine. It'll do 50W no problem, it's only when it gets over 60W that the problem manifests. Any ideas where to start looking? Thanks, Sean - VA5LF From w8dn at roadrunner.com Sun Jun 12 18:47:21 2016 From: w8dn at roadrunner.com (Mike Rhodes) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 18:47:21 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [K3/100] Reduced power output on 6m In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ...from the K3 manual: Output Power K3/100: 0.1 W ?100 W typ. Suggested max from 51-52 MHz, 85 W; 52-54, 70 W. K3/10 (or K3/100 with PA bypassed): 0.1 W ?12 W, HF-10 m; 8 W max on 6 m. XVTR OUT (KXV3 option): -10 to +1.8 dBm. K144XV: ~10 W, 144-148 MHz. Note: Output can be set up to 110 W. However, IMD and spurious products are specified at 100 W, the recommended max. If a KAT3 ATU is installed, actual output will be slightly lower (typ. loss < 0.5 dB below 28 MHz, < 0.8 dB above). Mike / W8DN On 6/12/2016 6:35 PM, Sean Cavanaugh wrote: > Hi, > > I was mucking around in the VHF contest this afternoon and noticed that my > K3/100 isn't putting out the power it should be on 6m. With the power > control set to 100W, I am getting a maximum of about 60W. It is able to > deliver 100W on 160 through 10, this is only an issue on 6. I have verified > the power output with an external power meter. > > I ran through the TX gain calibration and it worked fine. It'll do 50W no > problem, it's only when it gets over 60W that the problem manifests. > > Any ideas where to start looking? > > Thanks, > Sean - VA5LF > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w8dn at roadrunner.com > From ebasilier at cox.net Sun Jun 12 19:04:46 2016 From: ebasilier at cox.net (Erik Basilier) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 16:04:46 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 IMD vs DC input, using built-in 2 TONE In-Reply-To: <5yCM1t00c45oxQM01yCNSX> References: <5xwe1t00A45oxQM01xwfwH> <5yCM1t00c45oxQM01yCNSX> Message-ID: <01a801d1c4fe$d0a38650$71ea92f0$@cox.net> >Wes Stewart wrote: >Can't speak to the KX3, but for a K3(S) the mic gain equalizes the two tones. Thanks, Wes, that fixes it on the KX3 as well! -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Erik Basilier Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 3:11 PM To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 IMD vs DC input, using built-in 2 TONE Of course, I don't mean that the nature of the 2 tones affect the IMD characteristics of the hardware. Rather, what I meant was: "if one measures IMD with a standard 1:1 amplitude ratio, and then measures again with a non-standard 2:3 ratio, how much would the IMD suppression number change, and in what direction?" I imagine that the answer could be found either by using independently adjustable external audio tone generators, or with a math package. -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Erik Basilier Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:56 PM To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 IMD vs DC input, using built-in 2 TONE One more question: Assuming that the 2 tones are about 2:3 in amplitude ratio, can anyone say how that would be expected to affect the 3rd order IMD figures? From: Erik Basilier [mailto:ebasilier at cox.net] Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:53 PM To: 'Elecraft at mailman.qth.net' Subject: KX3 IMD vs DC input, using built-in 2 TONE I am testing my KX3 / KXPA100 combo, looking at TX IMD and power output depending on the DC power supply characteristics. I am experimenting with a N8XJK Boost Regulator (40A max) as well as an Astron linear supply adjusted down to low voltage, simulating a run-down battery. To judge IMD I use the built-in 2 TONE, mix down sampled output to audio, and feed into Spectrum Lab. When I look at the envelope, its smallest amplitude is about 1/3 of peak. This suggests that the 2 tones are not of equal amplitude. Has anyone else seen this? I downloaded the laterst firmware about a week ago. Thanks, Erik K7TV ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ebasilier at cox.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ebasilier at cox.net From k4ia at aol.com Sun Jun 12 19:34:21 2016 From: k4ia at aol.com (Buck) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 19:34:21 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] User Interface Message-ID: <6d10d2ba-5d50-7312-0b2e-565e5b7a3e9b@aol.com> I hope everyone saw today's Dilbert cartoon. I always wondered how Wayne came up with the push, tap, hold and twist. Check it out on Dilbert.com -- K4ia Buck Honor Roll 335 8BDXCC From jhaddleton at msn.com Sun Jun 12 19:34:41 2016 From: jhaddleton at msn.com (jhaddleton at msn.com) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 16:34:41 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Holiday reply Message-ID: From dmoes at nexicom.net Sun Jun 12 19:49:29 2016 From: dmoes at nexicom.net (David) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 19:49:29 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Lines Message-ID: <575DF509.70506@nexicom.net> My P3 has developed some white horizontal lines on the screen that come and go sometimes many and sometimes a few I reseated the ribbon cable but did not think that to be it anyway and it made no difference. any ideas Dave VE3SD (ve3dvy) . From sjl219 at optonline.net Sun Jun 12 19:49:56 2016 From: sjl219 at optonline.net (stan levandowski) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 19:49:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Elecraft] (OT) Prodigal Son Returns Message-ID: <3def35ed.65f85.155470597eb.Webtop.59@optonline.net> As a long time Elecraft builder and owner (K1, K2, K3, KX1, KX3, KXPA100, KPA100, KAT2, PX3, T1 and many options and mini-modules), I decided to "...take a walk on the wild side" about a year ago. ?I sold most of my gear and bought an LNR LD-5, then an LD-11 and also a Mountain Topper MTR3B. ?I was looking for a "fresh start" and "something new." ?I blame retirement for this... They were all good products; I have nothing negative to say at all. ?I certainly got my money's worth. ?And yes, the LD-11 receiver IS phenomenally quiet! But it simply wasn't Elecraft! ?I missed the Reflector where the company owners are active. ?I missed the ease of ordering and the rapid shipment. ?I missed the richness of the product inventory. ?Most of all, I felt a little twinge every time I'd make a contact and the other guy was running a K something or other! So, a little over a week ago, I listed my stuff for sale and ordered a KX2. ?It should be here in a couple of weeks.? I'm very happy to once again be a member of the Elecraft Family.? 73,? Stan WB2LQF From crustacean at brig-elec.com Sun Jun 12 19:53:38 2016 From: crustacean at brig-elec.com (John Pitz) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 19:53:38 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] KXPD2 Vs. KXPD3 In-Reply-To: <5A782F47-D5E2-42E4-A781-7ECE5D06B00F@elecraft.com> References: <5A782F47-D5E2-42E4-A781-7ECE5D06B00F@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <1465775618.3015.3.camel@arabica> In operating hammock mobile, did you find the SWR to be more favorable than operating in other situations? As a followup question do you think there is a correlation between discount rate and DX? ;) On Sat, 2016-06-11 at 13:11 -0700, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Hi Phil, > > We're getting close to shipping KXPD2s. We made some minor changes to the design, and we always extensively retest in this case to ensure high reliability in the field. I've been using my updated unit all over the place, from the storied riparian forests of San Mateo county to the 10% discounted Home Depot hammock in my back yard. > > The KXPD2 has the following features: > > - total length just 1.3" to minimized packed size > - ultralight, 3-D printed polycarbonate housing > - rounded-end paddles for comfortable use over a wide range of angles > - vibration-resistant contact adjustment screws > - allen wrench stores on the paddle for easy field adjustment > - works with KX2 or KX3 > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > On Jun 11, 2016, at 1:14 AM, "Phil Wheeler w7ox at socal.rr.com [KX3]" wrote: > > > I just received my KX2, and have planned to add the KXPD2 as soon as it is available. No KXPD3 on hand because I use a Begali Adventure with my KX3. But for the KX2 I'd like a paddle with a smaller profile. > > > > My KX2 order included a KXPD2, but I see from photos here and there that the KXPD3 looks nice on the KX2. > > > > So now I'm wondering if I should get the KXPD3 for my KX2, rather than the KXPD2. My questions are (and hopefully the KX2 field testers have had a shot at using the KXPD2): > > > > What are the differences between these two options? I see the KXPD3 is $20 or so higher in price, but I'm more interested in construction and performance (how they feel) differences. > > Is one easier to use than the other, or is the only plus of the KXPD2 its smaller size? > > Are there other factors I should consider? > > Since I've not used the KXPD3, I'm pretty much in the dark -- so any input appreciated! > > > > 73, Phil W7OX > > > > > > __._,_.___ > > Posted by: Phil Wheeler > > Reply via web post ? Reply to sender ? Reply to group ? Start a New Topic ? Messages in this topic (1) > > > > Have you tried the highest rated email app? > > With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. > > VISIT YOUR GROUP New Members 24 > > ? Privacy ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use > > . > > > > > > __,_._,___ > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to crustacean at brig-elec.com > From elecraftcovers at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 19:56:50 2016 From: elecraftcovers at gmail.com (Rose) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 17:56:50 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] (OT) Prodigal Son Returns In-Reply-To: References: <3def35ed.65f85.155470597eb.Webtop.59@optonline.net> Message-ID: Nice to see you back, Stan. (:-) 73 Rose - N7HKW elecraftcovers at Gmail.com From ken at arcomcontrollers.com Sun Jun 12 21:27:05 2016 From: ken at arcomcontrollers.com (Ken Arck) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 18:27:05 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Performance of internal USB sound system compared to external one? Message-ID: Admittedly, I am a new owner of the K3s and am still learning my way around it. I bought it mainly for use an IF radio for my DEMI 2 mtr xvtr, which I use for EME work. It came highly recommended as one. Prior to the K3s, my EME workhorse radio was a Kenwood TS2K which actually worked "fine" but as most are. I am always looking to improve my station. I used a RigBlaster as the sound card interface with the computer used. I am using the USB port for everything - audio in/out, PTT, CAT control, etc. along with some VSP software. I also run a splitter on the RX line from the EME array with one side going to the DEMI xvtr and the other to a FuncubePro+ dongle. The K3s feeds WJST and the FCD+ feed MAP65, running side-by-side. Trying NOT to drag this out too much longer, it seems to me the K3s/DEMI setup simply doesn't decode as well as the TS2K did (does?) and I'm wondering if anyone has real world experience in comparing how well the USB audio method versus the IN/OUT and the Rigblaster interface to the computer's soundcard. The FCD+ decodes MUCH better than the K3s/DEMI setup as I currently have it whereas the TS2K seemed to be better on the weaker signals. Maybe I just don't have something setup correctly..... TIA Ken ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" From nr4c at widomaker.com Sun Jun 12 21:28:14 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Bill Conkling) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 21:28:14 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 IMD vs DC input, using built-in 2 TONE In-Reply-To: <01a701d1c4f7$56f380a0$04da81e0$@cox.net> References: <5xwe1t00A45oxQM01xwfwH> <01a701d1c4f7$56f380a0$04da81e0$@cox.net> Message-ID: You do realize you can adjust the level one of the tones with the mic gain control, don?t you? ..bc nr4c > On Jun 12, 2016, at 6:11 PM, Erik Basilier wrote: > > Of course, I don't mean that the nature of the 2 tones affect the IMD > characteristics of the hardware. Rather, what I meant was: "if one measures > IMD with a standard 1:1 amplitude ratio, and then measures again with a > non-standard 2:3 ratio, how much would the IMD suppression number change, > and in what direction?" I imagine that the answer could be found either by > using independently adjustable external audio tone generators, or with a > math package. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Erik > Basilier > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:56 PM > To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 IMD vs DC input, using built-in 2 TONE > > One more question: > > Assuming that the 2 tones are about 2:3 in amplitude ratio, can anyone say > how that would be expected to affect the 3rd order IMD figures? > > > > From: Erik Basilier [mailto:ebasilier at cox.net] > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:53 PM > To: 'Elecraft at mailman.qth.net' > Subject: KX3 IMD vs DC input, using built-in 2 TONE > > > > I am testing my KX3 / KXPA100 combo, looking at TX IMD and power output > depending on the DC power supply characteristics. I am experimenting with a > N8XJK Boost Regulator (40A max) as well as an Astron linear supply adjusted > down to low voltage, simulating a run-down battery. > > > > To judge IMD I use the built-in 2 TONE, mix down sampled output to audio, > and feed into Spectrum Lab. > > > > When I look at the envelope, its smallest amplitude is about 1/3 of peak. > This suggests that the 2 tones are not of equal amplitude. Has anyone else > seen this? I downloaded the laterst firmware about a week ago. > > > > Thanks, > > Erik K7TV > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to ebasilier at cox.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From alan at elecraft.com Sun Jun 12 23:07:48 2016 From: alan at elecraft.com (Alan) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 20:07:48 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S and P3 Signal S-Meter scales do not matching In-Reply-To: <000901d1c4c0$d91f7f20$8b5e7d60$@com> References: <000901d1c4c0$d91f7f20$8b5e7d60$@com> Message-ID: <575E2384.4000107@elecraft.com> The P3 and the K3 should be in reasonable agreement when measuring the amplitude of a CW signal, but not when measuring SSB or other signals that are not concentrated at a single frequency like CW. The reason is that each display point on the P3 shows only the portion of the signal power that is on that frequency. You can see the same effect on the K3 if you narrow the bandwidth down to 50 Hz - the signal will show several S units lower. This is explained in the P3 Owner's Manual in the section "How to Set Up and Interpret the P3 Display". Alan N1AL On 06/12/2016 08:41 AM, KD3TB wrote: > > > I recently installed the SVGA option in my P3 and noticed that the > S-Meter scales on the P3 and SVGA do not match the S-Meter scales on the > K3S radio. I probably paid no attention to this before. With the SVGA > and a large monitor it is much more noticeable. > > Hence when I have a signal that is a S-20 (Receive) on the K3S meter, > the P3 and SVGA only show the signal as a S3. > > I am sure there is a way to get them to match in the menu settings? > > Thanks, Irwin KD3TB > From mzilmer at roadrunner.com Mon Jun 13 00:59:15 2016 From: mzilmer at roadrunner.com (Matt Zilmer) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 21:59:15 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] (OT) Prodigal Son Returns In-Reply-To: <3def35ed.65f85.155470597eb.Webtop.59@optonline.net> References: <3def35ed.65f85.155470597eb.Webtop.59@optonline.net> Message-ID: <497412d1-c1d1-c1b7-b96f-4fe4ba1212c1@roadrunner.com> Hi Stan, Welcome back! I think you'll fall head over heels for the KX2. I have. The list of KX2 enthusiasts is fairly long now. It's an excellent transceiver, and you can take it anywhere and set up your station. The reviews on eHam back that statement up. I've been using my unit in mobile and walkabout ops, along with some hiking in the local mountains [once with a dead power line span as an antenna]. You'll be pleased, however you want to use your KX2. 73! matt, W6NIA [Project Manager, KX2] On 6/12/2016 4:49 PM, stan levandowski wrote: > As a long time Elecraft builder and owner (K1, K2, K3, KX1, KX3, > KXPA100, KPA100, KAT2, PX3, T1 and many options and mini-modules), I > decided to "...take a walk on the wild side" about a year ago. I sold > most of my gear and bought an LNR LD-5, then an LD-11 and also a > Mountain Topper MTR3B. I was looking for a "fresh start" and > "something new." I blame retirement for this... > > They were all good products; I have nothing negative to say at all. I > certainly got my money's worth. And yes, the LD-11 receiver IS > phenomenally quiet! > > > But it simply wasn't Elecraft! I missed the Reflector where the > company owners are active. I missed the ease of ordering and the > rapid shipment. I missed the richness of the product inventory. Most > of all, I felt a little twinge every time I'd make a contact and the > other guy was running a K something or other! > > > So, a little over a week ago, I listed my stuff for sale and ordered a > KX2. It should be here in a couple of weeks. > > > I'm very happy to once again be a member of the Elecraft Family. > > > 73, > Stan WB2LQF > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to mzilmer at roadrunner.com -- Always store beer in a dark place. - R. Heinlein From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Mon Jun 13 07:42:46 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 12:42:46 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Noise Gate VOX delay BUG? Message-ID: <58B06DC5-7BA0-4BBE-A463-3D5AB2350A90@yahoo.co.uk> This is the -third- time of asking, I have no response from Elecraft on this at all, rather disappointing given well known their excellent customer service. ----- A few weeks ago another ham in this list asked if anyone else had noticed a bug with the way that the KX3 handles VOX when the TX Noise gate is set to ON. With any gate level more than 00 the VOX delay setting is ignored and the VOX drops out immediately. I checked with my KX3 and indeed that is the case. I don't know if this is specific to the KX3, as I don't have a K3 or KX2. The other ham has reported this to Elecraft but has heard no more on the matter. My question is, can this be fixed in firmware or is there some limitation that prevents the VOX delay from working with the TX Noise gate? Many thanks, 73 from David GM4JJJ From kb2m at arrl.net Mon Jun 13 07:59:25 2016 From: kb2m at arrl.net (Jeff Griffin) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 07:59:25 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] for sale k3 In-Reply-To: <066001d1c4b7$804af3b0$80e0db10$@net> References: <066001d1c4b7$804af3b0$80e0db10$@net> Message-ID: <08d101d1c56b$08321ed0$18965c70$@net> The price is now 1600$ or best offer.... 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Griffin Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:13 AM To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] for sale k3 I have a K3/10 serial 1516, along with a 2m module and a 2.1 filter that is in excess to my needs. All mods are up to date. Asking price is 2000$ shipped CONUS. I will ship elsewhere, shipping will be actual cost. 73 Jeff kb2m From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Mon Jun 13 07:59:48 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 12:59:48 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] OT- FS Bodnar GPS Ref Osc In-Reply-To: <575D9786.9060404@comcast.net> References: <575D9786.9060404@comcast.net> Message-ID: <9AF36CE6-ABA9-4283-AE75-CA08B6A9F570@yahoo.co.uk> Yes a really useful piece of kit, has many uses around the shack or in the field. For example to do the extended temperature VFO calibration for the KX3. It is tiny and low power, and very quick to lock on to GPS. No wait for oven to heat up. There are two versions, one with even lower phase noise, though the standard one is excellent. 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 12 Jun 2016, at 18:10, brian wrote: > > Great for locking K3 master osc. > > 450Hz to 800 MHz, programmable. Low phase noise. > > See > http://www.force12inc.com/products/gps-locked-precision-frequency-reference-low-jitter-gps-clock-450-hz-to-800-mhz-output.html > > Two outputs available. Second output can be a different frequency. USB powered or external power. Once setup, computer not needed. > > $195 shipped. > > de Brian/K3KO > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk From kb2m at arrl.net Mon Jun 13 08:01:01 2016 From: kb2m at arrl.net (Jeff Griffin) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:01:01 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] for sale PR6 In-Reply-To: <00a201d1c345$c84ffca0$58eff5e0$@net> References: <00a201d1c345$c84ffca0$58eff5e0$@net> Message-ID: <08d501d1c56b$4153d280$c3fb7780$@net> I'm now asking 70$ shipped.... 73 Jeff kb2m I just ordered a KXV3B for my K3 so I have in excess to my need's a PR6 Preamp. It comes with supplied power and ACC connector, and also includes the two BNC double male connectors. 100$ shipped. Paypal ok... 73 Jeff kb2m From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Mon Jun 13 09:16:14 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 06:16:14 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] OT- FS Bodnar GPS Ref Osc In-Reply-To: <9AF36CE6-ABA9-4283-AE75-CA08B6A9F570@yahoo.co.uk> References: <575D9786.9060404@comcast.net> <9AF36CE6-ABA9-4283-AE75-CA08B6A9F570@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: I've had one of these since January. I am pleased with the device, but the documentation and software leave much to be desired. Actually, they leave everything to be desired. ARRL had the same observation in their recent review. After seeing that and mention that there was new documentation in the works, I emailed a query and have yet to receive a reply. Wes N7WS On 6/13/2016 4:59 AM, David Anderson via Elecraft wrote: > Yes a really useful piece of kit, has many uses around the shack or in the field. For example to do the extended temperature VFO calibration for the KX3. It is tiny and low power, and very quick to lock on to GPS. No wait for oven to heat up. > > There are two versions, one with even lower phase noise, though the standard one is excellent. > > 73 from David GM4JJJ > >> On 12 Jun 2016, at 18:10, brian wrote: >> >> Great for locking K3 master osc. >> >> 450Hz to 800 MHz, programmable. Low phase noise. >> >> See >> http://www.force12inc.com/products/gps-locked-precision-frequency-reference-low-jitter-gps-clock-450-hz-to-800-mhz-output.html >> >> Two outputs available. Second output can be a different frequency. USB powered or external power. Once setup, computer not needed. >> >> $195 shipped. >> >> de Brian/K3KO >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post:mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered togm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post:mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered towes_n7ws at triconet.org > From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Mon Jun 13 09:51:16 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:51:16 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] OT- FS Bodnar GPS Ref Osc In-Reply-To: References: <575D9786.9060404@comcast.net> <9AF36CE6-ABA9-4283-AE75-CA08B6A9F570@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: Wes, I too was promised that the Software would be updated. It was once since I bought mine, to fix a serious bug that had been introduced. This was a long time ago. However it has not had another cosmetic item fixed yet. (The window is too tall for my tiny laptop I sometimes use). Saying that I don't have any problem using or understanding the item or the software. Like so many things, documentation is totally missing or poor. I am surprised that Leo has not replied, he was prompt with my request in the beginning. 73 David Anderson GM4JJJ > On 13 Jun 2016, at 14:16, Wes Stewart wrote: > > I've had one of these since January. I am pleased with the device, but the documentation and software leave much to be desired. Actually, they leave everything to be desired. ARRL had the same observation in their recent review. After seeing that and mention that there was new documentation in the works, I emailed a query and have yet to receive a reply. > > Wes N7WS > >> On 6/13/2016 4:59 AM, David Anderson via Elecraft wrote: >> Yes a really useful piece of kit, has many uses around the shack or in the field. For example to do the extended temperature VFO calibration for the KX3. It is tiny and low power, and very quick to lock on to GPS. No wait for oven to heat up. >> >> There are two versions, one with even lower phase noise, though the standard one is excellent. >> >> 73 from David GM4JJJ >> >>> On 12 Jun 2016, at 18:10, brian wrote: >>> >>> Great for locking K3 master osc. >>> >>> 450Hz to 800 MHz, programmable. Low phase noise. >>> >>> See >>> http://www.force12inc.com/products/gps-locked-precision-frequency-reference-low-jitter-gps-clock-450-hz-to-800-mhz-output.html >>> >>> Two outputs available. Second output can be a different frequency. USB powered or external power. Once setup, computer not needed. >>> >>> $195 shipped. >>> >>> de Brian/K3KO >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post:mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered togm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post:mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered towes_n7ws at triconet.org > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk From alsopb at comcast.net Mon Jun 13 09:59:18 2016 From: alsopb at comcast.net (brian) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 13:59:18 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] OT- FS Bodnar GPS Ref Osc In-Reply-To: References: <575D9786.9060404@comcast.net> <9AF36CE6-ABA9-4283-AE75-CA08B6A9F570@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <575EBC36.10609@comcast.net> Hi Wes, It depends on what you want to do. If you're just interested in programming one oscillator for a specific frequency (or the second to the same frequency too) then the need for more documentation is essentially zero. Trial and error works. One nice feature is being able to control the output phase difference between the two outputs at a fixed frequency. No further info is required to do that. I think this allows one to generate I/Q signals. If one is interested in obtaining the two outputs at specific different frequencies, then more information is needed. It is necessary to know the synthesizer setup and equations necessary to determine the divide integers et al. One case comes to mind. One user wanted 10 MHz on one output and 50 MHz on the second. 50MHz was not a choice on the drop down box for the second oscillator. He contacted Bodnar and was provided with the "magic" input numbers that would do that. Given the extra info, the utility of the unit would be greatly enhanced. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 6/13/2016 13:16 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: > I've had one of these since January. I am pleased with the device, but > the documentation and software leave much to be desired. Actually, they > leave everything to be desired. ARRL had the same observation in their > recent review. After seeing that and mention that there was new > documentation in the works, I emailed a query and have yet to receive a > reply. > > Wes N7WS > > On 6/13/2016 4:59 AM, David Anderson via Elecraft wrote: >> Yes a really useful piece of kit, has many uses around the shack or in >> the field. For example to do the extended temperature VFO >> calibration for the KX3. It is tiny and low power, and very quick to >> lock on to GPS. No wait for oven to heat up. >> >> There are two versions, one with even lower phase noise, though the >> standard one is excellent. >> >> 73 from David GM4JJJ >> >>> On 12 Jun 2016, at 18:10, brian wrote: >>> >>> Great for locking K3 master osc. >>> >>> 450Hz to 800 MHz, programmable. Low phase noise. >>> >>> See >>> http://www.force12inc.com/products/gps-locked-precision-frequency-reference-low-jitter-gps-clock-450-hz-to-800-mhz-output.html >>> >>> >>> Two outputs available. Second output can be a different frequency. >>> USB powered or external power. Once setup, computer not needed. >>> >>> $195 shipped. >>> >>> de Brian/K3KO >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post:mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered togm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post:mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered towes_n7ws at triconet.org >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to alsopb at comcast.net From lmarion at mt.net Mon Jun 13 10:05:38 2016 From: lmarion at mt.net (Leroy Marion) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:05:38 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] Cannot connect to K3S utillity Message-ID: <005e01d1c57c$aac09760$0041c620$@mt.net> I am the proud owner of K3S SN 10823. After sleeping on it, I still cannot get the Utility to connect. My computer sees The radio it on COM5. I have turned off everything else connected, the amp, tuner and P3. I need to figure this out so I can save configs, so when I goof up I can reload a working config. Also the per band power limits the K3 to 12 watts and the amp to ~250 watts. How do I get ~400watts ? The receiver on this radio is phenomenal, audio is FANTASTIC. Thanks, Leroy AB7CE From mike at mdodd.com Mon Jun 13 10:32:05 2016 From: mike at mdodd.com (Mike Dodd) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 10:32:05 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Cannot connect to K3S utillity In-Reply-To: <005e01d1c57c$aac09760$0041c620$@mt.net> References: <005e01d1c57c$aac09760$0041c620$@mt.net> Message-ID: <575EC3E5.2000806@mdodd.com> On 6/13/2016 10:05 AM, Leroy Marion wrote: > I am the proud owner of K3S SN 10823. After sleeping on it, I still cannot > get the Utility to connect. > > My computer sees The radio is on COM5. I have turned off everything else > connected, the amp, tuner and P3. Is COM5 a serial port or USB? If serial, try CONFIG->RS232 and set the speed to 38400 Baud. Be sure to set COM5 in the K3 Utility, then click the Test Communications button. HTH -- 73, Mike N4CF Louisa County, VA USA Elecraft K3s/100 Carolina Windom up 45' http://n4cf.mdodd.com From nr4c at widomaker.com Mon Jun 13 10:34:35 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 10:34:35 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Cannot connect to K3S utillity In-Reply-To: <005e01d1c57c$aac09760$0041c620$@mt.net> References: <005e01d1c57c$aac09760$0041c620$@mt.net> Message-ID: Locate RS-232 in the CONFIG menu and set it to "USB" instead of a number. This should allow the utility to connect. Do you have a K3S/10 or a K3S/100? What kind of amp do you have? Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jun 13, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Leroy Marion wrote: > > I am the proud owner of K3S SN 10823. After sleeping on it, I still cannot > get the Utility to connect. > > > > My computer sees The radio it on COM5. I have turned off everything else > connected, the amp, tuner and P3. > > > > I need to figure this out so I can save configs, so when I goof up I can > reload a working config. > > > > > > Also the per band power limits the K3 to 12 watts and the amp to ~250 watts. > > > > How do I get ~400watts ? > > > > The receiver on this radio is phenomenal, audio is FANTASTIC. > > > > > > > > Thanks, Leroy AB7CE > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From wglevy at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 11:55:33 2016 From: wglevy at gmail.com (William Levy) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 09:55:33 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] My K3, P3 and Expert Linear Message-ID: Gentlemen, My K3 powers on the P3 and the Expert 1.3. Out the back of my K3 the 15 pin and 9 pin go to the Expert, the 9 pin Serial is split and goes to the P3. When the P3 is OFF the K3 and Expert talk beautifully together. When the P3 is on the band data gets lost on the way to the Expert and the P3 works fine. So my question is how do I get the Serial Data on the 9 pin K3 to talk correctly to both Expert and P3? At the moment the Y splitter is not doing the job. Perhaps there is a trick I don't know or a box I need to add to the station. Thoughts? Sincerely, Bill N2WL Meeker CO From n1al at sonic.net Mon Jun 13 12:05:13 2016 From: n1al at sonic.net (Alan Bloom) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 09:05:13 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] My K3, P3 and Expert Linear In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <575ED9B9.2000204@sonic.net> The Y splitter should go on the RS-232 input to the P3, not the K3. That is, it should connect to the "PC" connector on the P3. Alan N1AL On 06/13/2016 08:55 AM, William Levy wrote: > Gentlemen, > > My K3 powers on the P3 and the Expert 1.3. > Out the back of my K3 the 15 pin and 9 pin go to the Expert, the 9 pin > Serial is split and goes to the P3. > > When the P3 is OFF the K3 and Expert talk beautifully together. When the P3 > is on the band data gets lost on the way to the Expert and the P3 works > fine. > > So my question is how do I get the Serial Data on the 9 pin K3 to talk > correctly to both Expert and P3? > At the moment the Y splitter is not doing the job. > > Perhaps there is a trick I don't know or a box I need to add to the station. > > Thoughts? > > Sincerely, > > Bill N2WL > Meeker CO From k6sdw at hotmail.com Mon Jun 13 13:00:09 2016 From: k6sdw at hotmail.com (Eddy Avila) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 17:00:09 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Soldering Station recommendation Message-ID: Greetings Elecraft afficiados, I'm looking for a recommendation for a soldering station, my Weller temperature-controled station of 20 years is dying an agonizing death and its time to upgrade! I don't use my soldering station a lot, maybe once a month and once in a while put a kit together, so I don't need a really expensive unit, but probably one under $100 for my needs with temperature control. Any suggestions? Thanks much 73 Ed ~ k6sdw From om2xw at hotmail.com Mon Jun 13 13:06:50 2016 From: om2xw at hotmail.com (Jan Babinec) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 17:06:50 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] FS 200Hz 5pole CW filter Message-ID: For sale - 200Hz 5 pole CW filter, offset -0.90 Shipping worldwide, money via PayPal Please contect me off list. 73 Jan OM2XW From lmarion at mt.net Mon Jun 13 13:09:58 2016 From: lmarion at mt.net (Leroy Marion) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 11:09:58 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] Cannot connect to K3S utillity In-Reply-To: References: <005e01d1c57c$aac09760$0041c620$@mt.net> Message-ID: <016f01d1c596$6b196e10$414c4a30$@mt.net> Does not matter, still won't connect. Tried two Win 7 computers. -----Original Message----- From: Nr4c [mailto:nr4c at widomaker.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 8:35 AM To: Leroy Marion Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Cannot connect to K3S utillity Locate RS-232 in the CONFIG menu and set it to "USB" instead of a number. This should allow the utility to connect. Do you have a K3S/10 or a K3S/100? What kind of amp do you have? Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jun 13, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Leroy Marion wrote: > > I am the proud owner of K3S SN 10823. After sleeping on it, I still > cannot get the Utility to connect. > > > > My computer sees The radio it on COM5. I have turned off everything > else connected, the amp, tuner and P3. > > > > I need to figure this out so I can save configs, so when I goof up I > can reload a working config. > > > > > > Also the per band power limits the K3 to 12 watts and the amp to ~250 watts. > > > > How do I get ~400watts ? > > > > The receiver on this radio is phenomenal, audio is FANTASTIC. > > > > > > > > Thanks, Leroy AB7CE > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > nr4c at widomaker.com From dl1oli at darc.de Mon Jun 13 13:20:42 2016 From: dl1oli at darc.de (Oli, DL1OLI) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 19:20:42 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 LCD-Display mysterious failure In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1824781465838442@web29o.yandex.ru> Dear Elecraft-list, today I powered my KPA500 #1584 up and got no display on the KPA500. The backlight is working properly but the LCD shows nothing. The Amp is working OK, it communicates with the KPA500 Remote utility, it communicates with the K3 and does 500 W Output as before. Only the LCD shows nothing. Even the keys for Menu and the bandkeys are working fine. After some time, after I removed it from power complete several times, opening the top Cover, controlling remote, flashing new firmware ect. the LCD is mysteriously working again. Any tips to this? What to check for? Thank you. vy 73 Oli DL1OLI/AJ4UR From nr4c at widomaker.com Mon Jun 13 13:27:37 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 13:27:37 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] My K3, P3 and Expert Linear In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <266B83AA-7B78-495D-AE90-95CAC3757D3C@widomaker.com> Have you set all devices to 38400 baud? The P3 will force the K3 to that speed when you turn it on. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jun 13, 2016, at 11:55 AM, William Levy wrote: > > Gentlemen, > > My K3 powers on the P3 and the Expert 1.3. > Out the back of my K3 the 15 pin and 9 pin go to the Expert, the 9 pin > Serial is split and goes to the P3. > > When the P3 is OFF the K3 and Expert talk beautifully together. When the P3 > is on the band data gets lost on the way to the Expert and the P3 works > fine. > > So my question is how do I get the Serial Data on the 9 pin K3 to talk > correctly to both Expert and P3? > At the moment the Y splitter is not doing the job. > > Perhaps there is a trick I don't know or a box I need to add to the station. > > Thoughts? > > Sincerely, > > Bill N2WL > Meeker CO > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From nr4c at widomaker.com Mon Jun 13 13:31:48 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 13:31:48 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Cannot connect to K3S utillity In-Reply-To: <016f01d1c596$6b196e10$414c4a30$@mt.net> References: <005e01d1c57c$aac09760$0041c620$@mt.net> <016f01d1c596$6b196e10$414c4a30$@mt.net> Message-ID: <774E409B-341B-4100-AE51-6BE784B48147@widomaker.com> Call tech support. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jun 13, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Leroy Marion wrote: > > Does not matter, still won't connect. Tried two Win 7 computers. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nr4c [mailto:nr4c at widomaker.com] > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 8:35 AM > To: Leroy Marion > Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Cannot connect to K3S utillity > > Locate RS-232 in the CONFIG menu and set it to "USB" instead of a number. > This should allow the utility to connect. > > Do you have a K3S/10 or a K3S/100? > > What kind of amp do you have? > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On Jun 13, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Leroy Marion wrote: >> >> I am the proud owner of K3S SN 10823. After sleeping on it, I still >> cannot get the Utility to connect. >> >> >> >> My computer sees The radio it on COM5. I have turned off everything >> else connected, the amp, tuner and P3. >> >> >> >> I need to figure this out so I can save configs, so when I goof up I >> can reload a working config. >> >> >> >> >> >> Also the per band power limits the K3 to 12 watts and the amp to ~250 > watts. >> >> >> >> How do I get ~400watts ? >> >> >> >> The receiver on this radio is phenomenal, audio is FANTASTIC. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, Leroy AB7CE >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email >> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >> nr4c at widomaker.com > > From kb2m at arrl.net Mon Jun 13 14:10:07 2016 From: kb2m at arrl.net (Jeff Griffin) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:10:07 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] for sale PR6 In-Reply-To: <08d501d1c56b$4153d280$c3fb7780$@net> References: <00a201d1c345$c84ffca0$58eff5e0$@net> <08d501d1c56b$4153d280$c3fb7780$@net> Message-ID: <0a3b01d1c59e$d1530a80$73f91f80$@net> The PR6 is sold. Thanks for the interest.... 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Griffin Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 8:01 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] for sale PR6 I'm now asking 70$ shipped.... 73 Jeff kb2m I just ordered a KXV3B for my K3 so I have in excess to my need's a PR6 Preamp. It comes with supplied power and ACC connector, and also includes the two BNC double male connectors. 100$ shipped. Paypal ok... 73 Jeff kb2m ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to kb2m at arrl.net From nf4l at comcast.net Mon Jun 13 14:35:05 2016 From: nf4l at comcast.net (Mike Reublin NF4L) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:35:05 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Soldering Station recommendation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00FDD38B-6CD9-48A4-BE45-A29FEC4943A0@comcast.net> I like my Aoyue 937. Amazon has 'em for $59.95. 73, Mike NF4L > On Jun 13, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Eddy Avila wrote: > > Greetings Elecraft afficiados, I'm looking for a recommendation for a soldering station, my Weller temperature-controled station of 20 years is dying an agonizing death and its time to upgrade! > > > I don't use my soldering station a lot, maybe once a month and once in a while put a kit together, so I don't need a really expensive unit, but probably one under $100 for my needs with temperature control. > > > Any suggestions? Thanks much > > > 73 > > > Ed ~ k6sdw > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nf4l at comcast.net From Mundschenk55 at msn.com Mon Jun 13 14:50:05 2016 From: Mundschenk55 at msn.com (Russ) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 18:50:05 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Soldering Station recommendation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ed: Pace ST-50 - we use them at work - can't beat 'em if you can't afford a Metcal. The tips are integrated into the heating element and they are a breeze to change. They also regulate FAST. Here's one on e-Bay for $150 (I got the same one for $100) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Soldering-station-PACE-ST50-with-handpiece-and-extra-Tips-3-FREE-SHIPPING-/231974507997?hash=item3602c215dd:g:YYoAAOSwvg9XWQEx Russ KD4JO -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Eddy Avila Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 1:00 PM To: Elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] Soldering Station recommendation Greetings Elecraft afficiados, I'm looking for a recommendation for a soldering station, my Weller temperature-controled station of 20 years is dying an agonizing death and its time to upgrade! I don't use my soldering station a lot, maybe once a month and once in a while put a kit together, so I don't need a really expensive unit, but probably one under $100 for my needs with temperature control. Any suggestions? Thanks much 73 Ed ~ k6sdw ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mundschenk55 at msn.com From kb2m at arrl.net Mon Jun 13 15:17:36 2016 From: kb2m at arrl.net (Jeff Griffin) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 15:17:36 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] for sale k3 References: <00a501d1c353$1d41abc0$57c50340$@earthlink.net>, , <1465599067.3742.17.camel@nk7z.net> <575CD42E.1581.35A03B2F@Gary.ka1j.com> <062701d1c4ac$18b5c640$4a2152c0$@net> Message-ID: <0a8801d1c5a8$3f513800$bdf3a800$@net> The K3 is sold, awaiting funds. Thanks for all the interest.... 73 Jeff kb2m -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Griffin Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:13 AM To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] for sale k3 I have a K3/10 serial 1516, along with a 2m module and a 2.1 filter that is in excess to my needs. All mods are up to date. Asking price is 2000$ shipped CONUS. I will ship elsewhere, shipping will be actual cost. 73 Jeff kb2m From Gary at ka1j.com Mon Jun 13 16:53:43 2016 From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 16:53:43 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] (OT) Prodigal Son Returns In-Reply-To: <3def35ed.65f85.155470597eb.Webtop.59@optonline.net> References: <3def35ed.65f85.155470597eb.Webtop.59@optonline.net> Message-ID: <575F1D57.10069.F59B1F@Gary.ka1j.com> Stan, All is forgiven, you may walk with pride. ;) 73, Gary KA1J K3 SN 202 K3s # 10622 > As a long time Elecraft builder and owner (K1, K2, K3, KX1, KX3, > KXPA100, KPA100, KAT2, PX3, T1 and many options and mini-modules), I > decided to "...take a walk on the wild side" about a year ago. ?I sold > most of my gear and bought an LNR LD-5, then an LD-11 and also a > Mountain Topper MTR3B. ?I was looking for a "fresh start" and "something > new." ?I blame retirement for this... > > They were all good products; I have nothing negative to say at all. ?I > certainly got my money's worth. ?And yes, the LD-11 receiver IS > phenomenally quiet! > > > But it simply wasn't Elecraft! ?I missed the Reflector where the company > owners are active. ?I missed the ease of ordering and the rapid > shipment. ?I missed the richness of the product inventory. ?Most of all, > I felt a little twinge every time I'd make a contact and the other guy > was running a K something or other! > > > So, a little over a week ago, I listed my stuff for sale and ordered a > KX2. ?It should be here in a couple of weeks.? > > > I'm very happy to once again be a member of the Elecraft Family.? > > > 73,? > Stan WB2LQF > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gary at ka1j.com From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net Mon Jun 13 19:00:13 2016 From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 18:00:13 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Soldering Station recommendation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hakko 888D. On 6/13/2016 12:00 PM, Eddy Avila wrote: > Greetings Elecraft afficiados, I'm looking for a recommendation for a soldering station, my Weller temperature-controled station of 20 years is dying an agonizing death and its time to upgrade! > > > I don't use my soldering station a lot, maybe once a month and once in a while put a kit together, so I don't need a really expensive unit, but probably one under $100 for my needs with temperature control. > > > Any suggestions? Thanks much > > > 73 > > > Ed ~ k6sdw > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevin.stover at mediacombb.net > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From w4sc at windstream.net Mon Jun 13 19:45:31 2016 From: w4sc at windstream.net (w4sc) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 19:45:31 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KXIO2 purchased with KX2 at Dayton Message-ID: <18076CB553A94CD0AF6D80ADB4F744C6@z22z28> KX2 purchased 5/20 with KXIO2 option at Dayton. KXIO2 was not available at Dayton to be delivered. Anyone else in this situation receive theirs? de Ben W4SC From dick at elecraft.com Mon Jun 13 20:43:27 2016 From: dick at elecraft.com (Dick Dievendorff) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 17:43:27 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 beta firmware revision 1.75 available Message-ID: <005f01d1c5d5$c47b35d0$4d71a170$@elecraft.com> A new KAT500 firmware revision 1.75 is now available for download, see http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/kat500_software.htm Beta firmware arrives in a ZIP archive file; download and extract the firmware and release notes files into a folder on your PC, and then use the KAT500 Utility Firmware tab and "browse" to that folder. This version should appeal to users of the KAT500's serial command capability in conjunction with control programs like Win4KSuite and others that send frequency set commands to the KAT500. 73 de Dick, K6KR From lmarion at mt.net Mon Jun 13 20:48:02 2016 From: lmarion at mt.net (lmarion) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 18:48:02 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] MH2 on K3? Message-ID: <634A31F090F24247BB938342359E50EB@LeroyPC> ?No internal hardware changes are required to use your MH2 with the Elecraft K3. Setup consists of attaching the microphone, enabling it using the MENU commands and making other front-panel adjustments. Note: The jumper blocks and 5.6 k resistor supplied with your microphone are not used. They are required only when using the MH2 with an Elecraft K2. The K3 can receive microphone input from either front or back panel connectors. Select the front panel connector as follows: 1. Tap MENU and locate MIC SEL with VFO B. 2. Select FP.L or FP.H with VFO A. 3. If FP.H is displayed, tap the 1 button to toggle the display to show FP.L. 4. Tap the 2 button as needed to display bI AS. (This turns on the microphone bias voltage required by the MH2.) Plug the microphone into the K3 front panel 8-pin? This is from the Elecraft page on using MH2 with K3. Where is this plug in for a MH2 on the front panel? Mine won?t work on the rear panel plug in. I ordered a MH3 as well, II t won?t work either. What microphone are you guys using on the K3S that uses the 8 pin front panel plug? New K3S that I can?t talk on. Leroy AB7CE From k7ew at hotmail.com Mon Jun 13 21:00:47 2016 From: k7ew at hotmail.com (Steve Saslow) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 01:00:47 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KAT-1 and PX-3 for sale Message-ID: From: k7ew at hotmail.comTo: elecraft-owner at mailman.qth.netSubject: KAT-1 and PX-3 for saleDate: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 18:44:07 +0000 I have a KAT-1 which I built and tested all excellent in my K-1, discovering that it already had a perfectly good one! So this one's totally unused, in excellent condition, kept clean and dry. To buy new and ship = about $138. I'm offering this for $75 + you pay the shipping. I also have a PX-3, serial number 514, which I assembled from their kit pieces. I used it barely a total of 10 hours, during the last months of the 2014 ARRL Centennial QSO Party, as I completed WAS plus territories, running my KX-3 at 7 watts max and a ground-mounted vertical + 2 radials. This PX-3 Panadapter is in excellent electrical and physical condition, stored clean and dry in all its original packing, even the box it came in! Includes the Elecraft-recommended DC power supply, the cables (labelled) to the KX-3, the extra DC power cable, and assembly and owner's manuals (owner's nicely bound, my time and expenses), all updates, errata and revisions documented and performed successfully. To purchase new = about $536 (shipping included). I'm offering it for $400 + you pay the shipping. Like new! Complete! Nearly unused!Please respond using my email address on QRZ.com. Telephone, if we can reasonably arrange.Thank you! -Steve K7EW Please respond using my email address on QRZ.com From vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk Mon Jun 13 21:04:26 2016 From: vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk (Johnny Siu) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 01:04:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 LCD-Display mysterious failure In-Reply-To: <1824781465838442@web29o.yandex.ru> References: <1824781465838442@web29o.yandex.ru> Message-ID: <1899988910.1798332.1465866266104.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hello Oli, I experienced the same and contacted Elecraft support. ?They suggested re-heat the solder of U6 and U11 in the front panel to eliminate cold solder joins. However, my eye sight and hands are not good enough to do so. ?I simply leave as it is because the LCD characters usually come back after 5-10 mins power on. May I know the serial no of KPA500? ?I suspect there could be a small patch of KPA500 with front panel minor defects. 73 Johnny VR2XMC ???? "Oli, DL1OLI" ???? "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" ????? 2016?06?14? (??) 1:20 AM ??? [Elecraft] KPA500 LCD-Display mysterious failure Dear Elecraft-list, today I powered my KPA500 #1584 up and got no display on the KPA500. The backlight is working properly but the LCD shows nothing. The Amp is working OK, it communicates with the KPA500 Remote utility, it communicates with the K3 and does 500 W Output as before. Only the LCD shows nothing. Even the keys for Menu and the bandkeys are working fine. After some time, after I removed it from power complete several times, opening the top Cover, controlling remote, flashing new firmware ect. the LCD is mysteriously working again. Any tips to this? What to check for? Thank you. vy 73 Oli DL1OLI/AJ4UR From dick at elecraft.com Mon Jun 13 21:10:32 2016 From: dick at elecraft.com (Dick Dievendorff) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 18:10:32 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100 firmware 1.35 has been moved to Production Message-ID: <002701d1c5d9$8ca84c70$a5f8e550$@elecraft.com> KXPA100 firmware has been updated to revision 1.35. This revision has been in beta for quite some time. The (optional) KXAT100 antenna tuner may now be used with the 100-watt power amplifier bypassed. We've received requests from customers who sometimes would like to run QRP and would like (at times) to use the ATU but not the PA. See the firmware release notes for details on how to put the PA into bypass (and return to normal operation). Install the new firmware with the most recent KXPA Utility, available from http://www.elecraft.com/KXPA100/KXPA100_software.htm 73 de Dick, K6KR From cf at cfcorp.com Mon Jun 13 21:28:09 2016 From: cf at cfcorp.com (Cliff Frescura) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 18:28:09 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 beta firmware revision 1.75 available In-Reply-To: <005f01d1c5d5$c47b35d0$4d71a170$@elecraft.com> References: <005f01d1c5d5$c47b35d0$4d71a170$@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <00a001d1c5dc$02cd6ff0$08684fd0$@com> Thanks, I'm assuming there is a small copy/paste artifact on the page since it shows the date of the earlier software version, 1.67. 73, Cliff K3LL/6 -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dick Dievendorff Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 5:43 PM To: 'Elecraft Reflector' Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 beta firmware revision 1.75 available A new KAT500 firmware revision 1.75 is now available for download, see http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/kat500_software.htm Beta firmware arrives in a ZIP archive file; download and extract the firmware and release notes files into a folder on your PC, and then use the KAT500 Utility Firmware tab and "browse" to that folder. This version should appeal to users of the KAT500's serial command capability in conjunction with control programs like Win4KSuite and others that send frequency set commands to the KAT500. 73 de Dick, K6KR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to cf at cfcorp.com From chrisrut7 at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 22:07:25 2016 From: chrisrut7 at gmail.com (Chris R) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 19:07:25 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] Adding TX/RX "Relay" to KX3 Operation Message-ID: Jim Rodenkirch said "You could spend money here: https://www.dxengineering.com/parts/dxe-rtr-1" I just happen to have an RTR1A for sale. Which is this: https://www.dxengineering.com/search/product-line/dx-engineering-rtr-1a-receive-antenna-interfaces I purchased it in April for use with my KX3 and an active loop antenna - then in May I turned around and bought a K3 with the built-in T/R relay setup and suddenly have no use this weeks-old RTR-1A... Works great of course... $125, paypal ok, I'll pay for shipping to the lower 48. 73, Chris NW6V . From mike at ve3yf.com Tue Jun 14 04:58:23 2016 From: mike at ve3yf.com (Mike VE3YF) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 08:58:23 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3 Required Message-ID: Hi: I am having a problem with my KIO3 Audio Daughter Board and possibly the KIO3 Main Board. Has someone upgraded to the new boards and have the old ones available. 73 De Mike VE3YF http://www.ve3yf.com [http://www.ve3yf.com/] From andrew at ahebden.com Tue Jun 14 06:35:05 2016 From: andrew at ahebden.com (Andrew Hebden) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 11:35:05 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] MH2 on K3? In-Reply-To: <634A31F090F24247BB938342359E50EB@LeroyPC> References: <634A31F090F24247BB938342359E50EB@LeroyPC> Message-ID: <007d01d1c628$6b79f040$426dd0c0$@ahebden.com> Hi Leroy, I recently bought a K3s and after eventually finding out that I had to change the default configuration to have the bias turned on it seemed to work. My MH2 came with an eight pin plug already fitted that uses the front panel mic socket. I still have a problem in that I don't find any difference between the high and low mic settings and need to have my mic gain set at 2 or 3 as well as speak with the microphone about 3 inches away from my mouth otherwise I over modulate which gives a very poor signal. I am sure something is not right but can't find what is causing this at the moment. It may be my big mouth but I don't have this problem with my KX3 which uses the MH3 microphone and "expected" mic settings. Everything just works fine on that. When time permits I will look into fitting a small attenuator into the mic lead so that I can get a more stable ALC reading. I haven't yet tried using the back panel mic socket but may give it a try soon with my Sennheiser headset to see if it overcomes some of the mic gain issues I have with the MH2. Andrew G8BYB -----Original Message----- From: lmarion Sent: 14 June 2016 01:48 Subject: [Elecraft] MH2 on K3? Where is this plug in for a MH2 on the front panel? Mine won t work on the rear panel plug in. I ordered a MH3 as well, II t won t work either. What microphone are you guys using on the K3S that uses the 8 pin front panel plug? New K3S that I can t talk on. Leroy AB7CE From cautery at montac.com Tue Jun 14 09:45:44 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 08:45:44 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100 firmware 1.35 has been moved to Production In-Reply-To: <002701d1c5d9$8ca84c70$a5f8e550$@elecraft.com> References: <002701d1c5d9$8ca84c70$a5f8e550$@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <94d3b4f9-48c4-e69c-1ae6-1d18387ea0c8@montac.com> Excellent... Not to thread drift, but I would assume this functionality is already available in the K-Line (K3s, KPA-500, KAT-500)? ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 6/13/2016 8:10 PM, Dick Dievendorff wrote: > The (optional) KXAT100 antenna tuner may now be used with the 100-watt power > amplifier bypassed. We've received requests from customers who sometimes > would like to run QRP and would like (at times) to use the ATU but not the > PA. > > 73 de Dick, K6KR From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Tue Jun 14 13:05:29 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (N7WS) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 10:05:29 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] User Interface In-Reply-To: <6d10d2ba-5d50-7312-0b2e-565e5b7a3e9b@aol.com> References: <6d10d2ba-5d50-7312-0b2e-565e5b7a3e9b@aol.com> Message-ID: <477fd470-625e-3788-2f7e-9d7ca1b123db@triconet.org> Sounds about right. On 6/12/2016 4:34 PM, Buck via Elecraft wrote: > I hope everyone saw today's Dilbert cartoon. I always wondered how > Wayne came up with the push, tap, hold and twist. Check it out on > Dilbert.com > > From k7ew at hotmail.com Tue Jun 14 13:33:41 2016 From: k7ew at hotmail.com (Steve Saslow) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 17:33:41 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KAT-1 and PX-3 for sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Both of these are now sold (as of June 17, morning)Thank you!pease forward/post as appropriate!-Steve K7EW From: k7ew at hotmail.com To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: KAT-1 and PX-3 for sale Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 01:00:47 +0000 From: k7ew at hotmail.comTo: elecraft-owner at mailman.qth.netSubject: KAT-1 and PX-3 for saleDate: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 18:44:07 +0000 I have a KAT-1 which I built and tested all excellent in my K-1, discovering that it already had a perfectly good one! So this one's totally unused, in excellent condition, kept clean and dry. To buy new and ship = about $138. I'm offering this for $75 + you pay the shipping. I also have a PX-3, serial number 514, which I assembled from their kit pieces. I used it barely a total of 10 hours, during the last months of the 2014 ARRL Centennial QSO Party, as I completed WAS plus territories, running my KX-3 at 7 watts max and a ground-mounted vertical + 2 radials. This PX-3 Panadapter is in excellent electrical and physical condition, stored clean and dry in all its original packing, even the box it came in! Includes the Elecraft-recommended DC power supply, the cables (labelled) to the KX-3, the extra DC power cable, and assembly and owner's manuals (owner's nicely bound, my time and expenses), all updates, errata and revisions documented and performed successfully. To purchase new = about $536 (shipping included). I'm offering it for $400 + you pay the shipping. Like new! Complete! Nearly unused!Please respond using my email address on QRZ.com. Telephone, if we can reasonably arrange.Thank you! -Steve K7EW Please respond using my email address on QRZ.com From woodr90 at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 14:50:24 2016 From: woodr90 at gmail.com (Robert Wood) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 13:50:24 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Performance of internal USB sound system compared to external one? In-Reply-To: <20160613012826.BE16A149D840@mailman.qth.net> References: <20160613012826.BE16A149D840@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: <000a01d1c66d$9d0488b0$d70d9a10$@gmail.com> also curious if anyone has used the USB audio into MMTTY or 2Tone for decoding RTTY and your report ? 73 Robert W5AJ -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ken Arck Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 8:27 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Performance of internal USB sound system compared to external one? Admittedly, I am a new owner of the K3s and am still learning my way around it. I bought it mainly for use an IF radio for my DEMI 2 mtr xvtr, which I use for EME work. It came highly recommended as one. Prior to the K3s, my EME workhorse radio was a Kenwood TS2K which actually worked "fine" but as most are. I am always looking to improve my station. I used a RigBlaster as the sound card interface with the computer used. I am using the USB port for everything - audio in/out, PTT, CAT control, etc. along with some VSP software. I also run a splitter on the RX line from the EME array with one side going to the DEMI xvtr and the other to a FuncubePro+ dongle. The K3s feeds WJST and the FCD+ feed MAP65, running side-by-side. Trying NOT to drag this out too much longer, it seems to me the K3s/DEMI setup simply doesn't decode as well as the TS2K did (does?) and I'm wondering if anyone has real world experience in comparing how well the USB audio method versus the IN/OUT and the Rigblaster interface to the computer's soundcard. The FCD+ decodes MUCH better than the K3s/DEMI setup as I currently have it whereas the TS2K seemed to be better on the weaker signals. Maybe I just don't have something setup correctly..... TIA Ken ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to woodr90 at gmail.com From wk6i.jeff at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 15:02:38 2016 From: wk6i.jeff at gmail.com (Jeff Stai) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:02:38 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Performance of internal USB sound system compared to external one? In-Reply-To: <000a01d1c66d$9d0488b0$d70d9a10$@gmail.com> References: <20160613012826.BE16A149D840@mailman.qth.net> <000a01d1c66d$9d0488b0$d70d9a10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: The built-in sound card in the K3S works just fine for RTTY decode - MMTTY and 2Tone - but RTTY doesn't require high performance from a sound card. For more demanding modes I can't comment, but I would definitely expect the K3s to meet or exceed the specs of the Rigblaster, which is nothing special. Ken, I would look into your setup in detail. If you can contrive to do a real time side by side test where you can observe both decodes at the same time that would give you confidence that there is really something wrong, or not. 73 jeff wk6i On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Robert Wood wrote: > also curious if anyone has used the USB audio into MMTTY or 2Tone for > decoding RTTY and your report ? > 73 Robert W5AJ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ken > Arck > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 8:27 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Performance of internal USB sound system compared to > external one? > > Admittedly, I am a new owner of the K3s and am still learning my way around > it. I bought it mainly for use an IF radio for my DEMI 2 mtr xvtr, which I > use for EME work. It came highly recommended as one. > Prior to the K3s, my EME workhorse radio was a Kenwood TS2K which actually > worked "fine" but as most are. I am always looking to improve my station. I > used a RigBlaster as the sound card interface with the computer used. > > I am using the USB port for everything - audio in/out, PTT, CAT control, > etc. along with some VSP software. I also run a splitter on the RX line > from > the EME array with one side going to the DEMI xvtr and the other to a > FuncubePro+ dongle. The K3s feeds WJST and the > FCD+ feed MAP65, running side-by-side. > > Trying NOT to drag this out too much longer, it seems to me the K3s/DEMI > setup simply doesn't decode as well as the TS2K did (does?) and I'm > wondering if anyone has real world experience in comparing how well the USB > audio method versus the IN/OUT and the Rigblaster interface to the > computer's soundcard. The FCD+ decodes MUCH better than the K3s/DEMI setup > as I currently have it whereas the TS2K seemed to be better on the weaker > signals. > > Maybe I just don't have something setup correctly..... > > TIA > > Ken > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and > accessories. > http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ > Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater > packages! > AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 > http://www.irlp.net > "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message > delivered to woodr90 at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wk6i.jeff at gmail.com > -- Jeff Stai ~ wk6i.jeff at gmail.com Twisted Oak Winery ~ http://www.twistedoak.com/ Facebook ~ http://www.facebook.com/twistedoak From ed at w0yk.com Tue Jun 14 15:44:54 2016 From: ed at w0yk.com (Ed Muns) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:44:54 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Performance of internal USB sound system compared toexternal one? In-Reply-To: <000a01d1c66d$9d0488b0$d70d9a10$@gmail.com> References: <20160613012826.BE16A149D840@mailman.qth.net> <000a01d1c66d$9d0488b0$d70d9a10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F2700BD414749A2A0F37A1519560332@h81420t> I've used the KIO3B CODEC for over 6 months in contests and DXing with MMTTY, 2Tone and GRITTY. Anecdotally, it is as good as or better than any internal or external PC soundcard I've ever used for these three decoders. For PSK, JT65 and other digital modes I don't know how it stacks up with the high dynamic range soundcards. Perhaps the K3 CODEC has enough dynamic range, but I've not seen any evaluation of that. One issue I have with the K3S CODEC is that Windows installs a monaural level control rather than separate left and right channel level controls for the two receive audio streams. There also seems to be some kind of AGC action going on where the levels actually change over time. This appears to be eliminated by the chip manufacturer's CODEC driver that I found online, though it is still monaural. Ed W0YK _____________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Robert Wood Sent: 14 June, 2016 11:50 To: 'Ken Arck'; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Performance of internal USB sound system compared toexternal one? also curious if anyone has used the USB audio into MMTTY or 2Tone for decoding RTTY and your report ? 73 Robert W5AJ -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ken Arck Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 8:27 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Performance of internal USB sound system compared to external one? Admittedly, I am a new owner of the K3s and am still learning my way around it. I bought it mainly for use an IF radio for my DEMI 2 mtr xvtr, which I use for EME work. It came highly recommended as one. Prior to the K3s, my EME workhorse radio was a Kenwood TS2K which actually worked "fine" but as most are. I am always looking to improve my station. I used a RigBlaster as the sound card interface with the computer used. I am using the USB port for everything - audio in/out, PTT, CAT control, etc. along with some VSP software. I also run a splitter on the RX line from the EME array with one side going to the DEMI xvtr and the other to a FuncubePro+ dongle. The K3s feeds WJST and the FCD+ feed MAP65, running side-by-side. Trying NOT to drag this out too much longer, it seems to me the K3s/DEMI setup simply doesn't decode as well as the TS2K did (does?) and I'm wondering if anyone has real world experience in comparing how well the USB audio method versus the IN/OUT and the Rigblaster interface to the computer's soundcard. The FCD+ decodes MUCH better than the K3s/DEMI setup as I currently have it whereas the TS2K seemed to be better on the weaker signals. Maybe I just don't have something setup correctly..... TIA Ken From wk6i.jeff at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 16:14:37 2016 From: wk6i.jeff at gmail.com (Jeff Stai) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 13:14:37 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Performance of internal USB sound system compared toexternal one? In-Reply-To: <4F2700BD414749A2A0F37A1519560332@h81420t> References: <20160613012826.BE16A149D840@mailman.qth.net> <000a01d1c66d$9d0488b0$d70d9a10$@gmail.com> <4F2700BD414749A2A0F37A1519560332@h81420t> Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Ed Muns wrote: > One issue I have with the K3S CODEC is that Windows installs a monaural > level control rather than separate left and right channel level controls > for > the two receive audio streams. There also seems to be some kind of AGC > action going on where the levels actually change over time. This appears > to > be eliminated by the chip manufacturer's CODEC driver that I found online, > though it is still monaural. > You still have a left and right channel, you just can't set the levels independently, correct? I haven't seen the AGC issue, but maybe I haven't noticed the levels changing very much. Who is the chip mfr? Thanks! - jeff wk6i -- Jeff Stai ~ wk6i.jeff at gmail.com Twisted Oak Winery ~ http://www.twistedoak.com/ Facebook ~ http://www.facebook.com/twistedoak From alan at wilcoxengineering.com Tue Jun 14 16:41:24 2016 From: alan at wilcoxengineering.com (Alan D. Wilcox) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 16:41:24 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 for Sale. N5IA, Silent Key References: <9098AB2D-5399-4418-B8E2-9D780C6D908E@wilcoxengineering.com> Message-ID: Hello, The radio has now been sold. Thank you for your interest to contact me about it. Alan Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX (K2-5373, K3-40) 570-478-0736 (cell, text) http://WilcoxEngineering.com http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6768 ... Elecraft Client Comments http://amazon.com/author/alandwilcox Williamsport, PA 17701 > Begin forwarded message: > > From: "Alan D. Wilcox" > Subject: K2 for Sale > Date: June 11, 2016 at 21:26:04 EDT > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > Hello, > > As you know, I repair and tune Elecraft K2s, and I just finished a repair > and tuneup two days ago for N5IA. When I called to let him know it was > ready to ship back to him, I was appalled to find he had become a > silent key the day before. See http://qrz.com for more info from his son. > > His widow asked me to sell the radio, which I now offer to you. > > K2-849, vintage 1998 or so > Latest K2 ver 2.04 and 1.09 firmware ( f/w ) > Tuned and working nicely, but NOT updated > New finals just installed > > Options: > KDSP2, 3.18 f/w > K160RX > KNB2 > KAT2, 1.03 f/w > KIO2 > KBT2 (without battery) > KSB2, 1.04 f/w > > Interested? I can send you a link to photos. > > Sorry, I?m not selling pieces. > I can make changes or updates for you if you want, but only after your purchase. > > Price? Best fair offer that I can return to the family. > > Please reply directly to me off list. > > Alan > > Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX (K2-5373, K3-40) > 570-478-0736 (cell, text) > http://WilcoxEngineering.com > http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6768 ... Elecraft Client Comments > http://amazon.com/author/alandwilcox > Williamsport, PA 17701 > From ed at w0yk.com Tue Jun 14 16:54:11 2016 From: ed at w0yk.com (Ed Muns) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 13:54:11 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Performance of internal USB sound system compared toexternal one? In-Reply-To: References: <20160613012826.BE16A149D840@mailman.qth.net> <000a01d1c66d$9d0488b0$d70d9a10$@gmail.com> <4F2700BD414749A2A0F37A1519560332@h81420t> Message-ID: <4FD4084059B346B39BDCA04A6EC227AE@h81420t> Yes, there are two receive audio channels for the Main and Sub receivers in the CODEC. The Windows driver level control adjusts both channels identically. If there is any unbalance or for some reason you want to independently adjust the two channels, it can't be done. The driver communication with Windows should trigger the stereo level control, but doesn't. The CODEC is the TI PCM-2902. Ed W0YK _____ From: Jeff Stai [mailto:wk6i.jeff at gmail.com] Sent: 14 June, 2016 13:15 To: ed at w0yk.com Cc: Robert Wood; Ken Arck; Elecraft Mailer Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Performance of internal USB sound system compared toexternal one? On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Ed Muns wrote: One issue I have with the K3S CODEC is that Windows installs a monaural level control rather than separate left and right channel level controls for the two receive audio streams. There also seems to be some kind of AGC action going on where the levels actually change over time. This appears to be eliminated by the chip manufacturer's CODEC driver that I found online, though it is still monaural. You still have a left and right channel, you just can't set the levels independently, correct? I haven't seen the AGC issue, but maybe I haven't noticed the levels changing very much. Who is the chip mfr? Thanks! - jeff wk6i From k2av.guy at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 17:24:05 2016 From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 17:24:05 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Performance of internal USB sound system compared toexternal one? In-Reply-To: <4FD4084059B346B39BDCA04A6EC227AE@h81420t> References: <20160613012826.BE16A149D840@mailman.qth.net> <000a01d1c66d$9d0488b0$d70d9a10$@gmail.com> <4F2700BD414749A2A0F37A1519560332@h81420t> <4FD4084059B346B39BDCA04A6EC227AE@h81420t> Message-ID: To be strict, a stereo gain control (volume is a misnomer) will adjust both channels equally, then if supplied, there is a balance control which creates a ratio of left to right channel gain which is maintained regardless of the gain control. What you seem to be asking for is the ability to treat left and right as if they were independent channels, which I would guess is very rare in drivers. "Volume" depends on channel gain and a lot of other things. At the input of various end user devices, the volume range is specified. The volume coming from upstream devices can depend on a lot of things, RF gain, AGC settings, conditions, and possibly others in addition to codec channel gain. Why would you need a stereo balance control for use in data modes? Dual RX and "diversity" decode? If a K3 dual RX diversity kind of operation, why wouldn't equal gain on left and right be required? Regardless, 73 and good luck, Guy K2AV On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Ed Muns wrote: > Yes, there are two receive audio channels for the Main and Sub receivers in > the CODEC. The Windows driver level control adjusts both channels > identically. If there is any unbalance or for some reason you want to > independently adjust the two channels, it can't be done. The driver > communication with Windows should trigger the stereo level control, but > doesn't. > > > > The CODEC is the TI PCM-2902. > > > > Ed W0YK > > > > _____ > > From: Jeff Stai [mailto:wk6i.jeff at gmail.com] > Sent: 14 June, 2016 13:15 > To: ed at w0yk.com > Cc: Robert Wood; Ken Arck; Elecraft Mailer > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Performance of internal USB sound system compared > toexternal one? > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Ed Muns wrote: > > One issue I have with the K3S CODEC is that Windows installs a monaural > level control rather than separate left and right channel level controls for > the two receive audio streams. There also seems to be some kind of AGC > action going on where the levels actually change over time. This appears to > be eliminated by the chip manufacturer's CODEC driver that I found online, > though it is still monaural. > > > > You still have a left and right channel, you just can't set the levels > independently, correct? > > > > I haven't seen the AGC issue, but maybe I haven't noticed the levels > changing very much. Who is the chip mfr? > > > > Thanks! - jeff wk6i > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2av.guy at gmail.com From ed at w0yk.com Tue Jun 14 17:54:50 2016 From: ed at w0yk.com (Ed Muns) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 14:54:50 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Performance of internal USB sound system compared toexternal one? In-Reply-To: References: <20160613012826.BE16A149D840@mailman.qth.net> <000a01d1c66d$9d0488b0$d70d9a10$@gmail.com> <4F2700BD414749A2A0F37A1519560332@h81420t> <4FD4084059B346B39BDCA04A6EC227AE@h81420t> Message-ID: <479E5AEB206244F28E4D79AB6ADE9DE6@h81420t> All my other Windows sound devices with two channels have independent level controls, one for each channel, plus the ability to link them together and adjust equally. For whatever reason, I've often found that I need a different level setting to set the no-signal baseline in the decoders for each receiver. In theory, perhaps that shouldn't be necessary but in practice it is. Ed W0YK -----Original Message----- From: guyk2av at gmail.com [mailto:guyk2av at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Guy Olinger K2AV Sent: 14 June, 2016 14:24 To: Ed Muns Cc: Jeff Stai; Elecraft Mailer Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Performance of internal USB sound system compared toexternal one? To be strict, a stereo gain control (volume is a misnomer) will adjust both channels equally, then if supplied, there is a balance control which creates a ratio of left to right channel gain which is maintained regardless of the gain control. What you seem to be asking for is the ability to treat left and right as if they were independent channels, which I would guess is very rare in drivers. "Volume" depends on channel gain and a lot of other things. At the input of various end user devices, the volume range is specified. The volume coming from upstream devices can depend on a lot of things, RF gain, AGC settings, conditions, and possibly others in addition to codec channel gain. Why would you need a stereo balance control for use in data modes? Dual RX and "diversity" decode? If a K3 dual RX diversity kind of operation, why wouldn't equal gain on left and right be required? Regardless, 73 and good luck, Guy K2AV On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Ed Muns wrote: > Yes, there are two receive audio channels for the Main and Sub receivers in > the CODEC. The Windows driver level control adjusts both channels > identically. If there is any unbalance or for some reason you want to > independently adjust the two channels, it can't be done. The driver > communication with Windows should trigger the stereo level control, but > doesn't. > > The CODEC is the TI PCM-2902. > > Ed W0YK > _____ > > From: Jeff Stai [mailto:wk6i.jeff at gmail.com] > Sent: 14 June, 2016 13:15 > To: ed at w0yk.com > Cc: Robert Wood; Ken Arck; Elecraft Mailer > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Performance of internal USB sound system compared > toexternal one? > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Ed Muns wrote: > > One issue I have with the K3S CODEC is that Windows installs a monaural > level control rather than separate left and right channel level controls for > the two receive audio streams. There also seems to be some kind of AGC > action going on where the levels actually change over time. This appears to > be eliminated by the chip manufacturer's CODEC driver that I found online, > though it is still monaural. > > You still have a left and right channel, you just can't set the levels > independently, correct? > > I haven't seen the AGC issue, but maybe I haven't noticed the levels > changing very much. Who is the chip mfr? > > Thanks! - jeff wk6i From ken at arcomcontrollers.com Tue Jun 14 18:06:41 2016 From: ken at arcomcontrollers.com (Ken Arck) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 15:06:41 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Performance of internal USB sound system compared to external one? In-Reply-To: References: <20160613012826.BE16A149D840@mailman.qth.net> <000a01d1c66d$9d0488b0$d70d9a10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Jeff Doing a side-by-side is easy as I explained in my original post. I can absolutely (and empirically) show that the FCD+/Linrad/MAP65 combo decodes JT65B much more reliably than does the K3S/DEMI xvtr/USB CODECWSJT10 combination as currently configured. Whereas the TS2K/computer soundcard (Realtek AC 97 based)/WSJT10 combo decodes JT65B more reliably than the K3s combo. I haven't done a TS2K and K3s combo side-by-side as I don't have the hardware to do so. I was thinking about trying the In/Out connections (via the RigBlaster) on the K3s to see if the CODEC is the issue but I was wondering if someone had already been down this road. Hence my question Ken At 12:02 PM 6/14/2016, Jeff Stai wrote: >The built-in sound card in the K3S works just >fine for RTTY decode - MMTTY and 2Tone - but >RTTY doesn't require high performance from a >sound card. For more demanding modes I can't >comment, but I would definitely expect the K3s >to meet or exceed the specs of the Rigblaster, >which is nothing special. Ken, I would look into >your setup in detail. If you can contrive to do >a real time side by side test where you can >observe both decodes at the same time that would >give you confidence that there is really something wrong, or not.? > >73 jeff wk6i > > >On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Robert Wood ><woodr90 at gmail.com> wrote: >also curious if anyone has used the USB audio into MMTTY or 2Tone for >decoding RTTY and your report ? >73 Robert W5AJ > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ken >Arck >Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 8:27 PM >To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >Subject: [Elecraft] Performance of internal USB sound system compared to >external one? > >Admittedly, I am a new owner of the K3s and am still learning my way around >it. I bought it mainly for use an IF radio for my DEMI 2 mtr xvtr, which I >use for EME work. It came highly recommended as one. >Prior to the K3s, my EME workhorse radio was a Kenwood TS2K which actually >worked "fine" but as most are. I am always looking to improve my station. I >used a RigBlaster as the sound card interface with the computer used. > >I am using the USB port for everything - audio in/out, PTT, CAT control, >etc. along with some VSP software. I also run a splitter on the RX line from >the EME array with one side going to the DEMI xvtr and the other to a >FuncubePro+ dongle. The K3s feeds WJST and the >FCD+ feed MAP65, running side-by-side. > >Trying NOT to drag this out too much longer, it seems to me the K3s/DEMI >setup simply doesn't decode as well as the TS2K did (does?) and I'm >wondering if anyone has real world experience in comparing how well the USB >audio method versus the IN/OUT and the Rigblaster interface to the >computer's soundcard. The FCD+ decodes MUCH better than the K3s/DEMI setup >as I currently have it whereas the TS2K seemed to be better on the weaker >signals. > >Maybe I just don't have something setup correctly..... > >TIA > >Ken > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-- >President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and >accessories. >http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ >Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater >packages! >AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 >http://www.irlp.net >"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: >http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: >http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message >delivered to woodr90 at gmail.com > >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: >http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: >http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to wk6i.jeff at gmail.com > > > > >-- >Jeff Stai ~ wk6i.jeff at gmail.com >Twisted Oak Winery ~ http://www.twistedoak.com/ >Facebook ~ >http://www.facebook.com/twistedoak ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" From k7ew at hotmail.com Tue Jun 14 18:45:01 2016 From: k7ew at hotmail.com (steve saslow) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 15:45:01 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] my KAT-1 and PX-3for sale Message-ID: Both are sold! Thank you! _Steve k7ew From mike at mdodd.com Tue Jun 14 19:59:29 2016 From: mike at mdodd.com (Mike Dodd) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 19:59:29 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Performance of internal USB sound system compared to external one? In-Reply-To: <000a01d1c66d$9d0488b0$d70d9a10$@gmail.com> References: <20160613012826.BE16A149D840@mailman.qth.net> <000a01d1c66d$9d0488b0$d70d9a10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <57609A61.3030803@mdodd.com> On 6/14/2016 2:50 PM, Robert Wood wrote: > also curious if anyone has used the USB audio into MMTTY or 2Tone for > decoding RTTY and your report ? I use the K3s internal USB sound card for RTTY with MMTTY, and PSK-31 with FLDigi. It works fine, RX and TX, with both programs. Also, the MMTTY engine integrated into N1MM+ contest logger works fine. I have not used 2Tone. -- 73, Mike N4CF Louisa County, VA USA Elecraft K3s/100 Carolina Windom up 45' http://n4cf.mdodd.com From u1004467 at warwick.net Tue Jun 14 20:43:58 2016 From: u1004467 at warwick.net (John Santillo) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 20:43:58 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 DVR Message-ID: <006e01d1c69f$0101cd10$03056730$@net> Hello, Has anyone ever successfully used these CAT commands with WriteLog? I'm trying to minimize the amount of times I have to reach for the M1 button by using a function key on the keyboard. * Cat Macro strings used to play back Radio # 1 internal K3 CW/data messages or DVR voice keyer messages * M1 = {CAT1ASC SWT21;} * M2 = {CAT1ASC SWT31;} * M3 = {CAT1ASC SWT35;} * M4 = {CAT1ASC SWT39;} 73, John N2HMM From jim at n7us.net Tue Jun 14 20:57:22 2016 From: jim at n7us.net (Jim McDonald) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 19:57:22 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 DVR In-Reply-To: <006e01d1c69f$0101cd10$03056730$@net> References: <006e01d1c69f$0101cd10$03056730$@net> Message-ID: <007d01d1c6a0$e1237780$a36a6680$@n7us.net> Yes, I've used them in N1MM+ and DXLab's Commander; they work well. 73, Jim N7US -----Original Message----- Hello, Has anyone ever successfully used these CAT commands with WriteLog? I'm trying to minimize the amount of times I have to reach for the M1 button by using a function key on the keyboard. * Cat Macro strings used to play back Radio # 1 internal K3 CW/data messages or DVR voice keyer messages * M1 = {CAT1ASC SWT21;} * M2 = {CAT1ASC SWT31;} * M3 = {CAT1ASC SWT35;} * M4 = {CAT1ASC SWT39;} 73, John N2HMM From dmoes at nexicom.net Tue Jun 14 21:40:17 2016 From: dmoes at nexicom.net (dmoes at nexicom.net) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 21:40:17 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 DVR Message-ID: <5760b201.2e4b.f90b8940.bba15e8@nexicom.net> To be honest I don't use the built in DVR much. I find that using the DVR that is part of my logger32 and N1MM more versitile David Moes VE3SD > --- Original message --- > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 DVR > From: John Santillo > To: > Date: Tuesday, 14/06/2016 8:44 PM > > Hello, > > > > Has anyone ever successfully used these CAT commands with WriteLog? > I'm > trying to minimize the amount of times I have to reach for the M1 > button by > using a function key on the keyboard. > > * Cat Macro strings used to play back Radio # 1 internal K3 CW/data > messages or DVR voice keyer messages > > * M1 = {CAT1ASC SWT21;} > * M2 = {CAT1ASC SWT31;} > * M3 = {CAT1ASC SWT35;} > * M4 = {CAT1ASC SWT39;} > > 73, > > John > > N2HMM > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dmoes at nexicom.net From ve3iay at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 22:30:47 2016 From: ve3iay at gmail.com (Richard Ferch) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 22:30:47 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 DVR Message-ID: The command syntax you used ({CAT1ASC K3_command} is unique to N1MM+. If you want to use those SWT commands with a different program, you will have to use the macro syntax appropriate for that program. The command syntax in Writelog appears to be a bit more complicated - it looks as if you first have to define key macros in the Writelog.ini file and then call up those key macros in the function key definitions using the %G command. See for examples of how to do this. 73, Rich VE3KI N2HMM wrote: Has anyone ever successfully used these CAT commands with WriteLog? I'm trying to minimize the amount of times I have to reach for the M1 button by using a function key on the keyboard. * Cat Macro strings used to play back Radio # 1 internal K3 CW/data messages or DVR voice keyer messages * M1 = {CAT1ASC SWT21;} * M2 = {CAT1ASC SWT31;} * M3 = {CAT1ASC SWT35;} * M4 = {CAT1ASC SWT39;} From mike at ve3yf.com Wed Jun 15 04:53:38 2016 From: mike at ve3yf.com (Mike VE3YF) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:53:38 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3 Required Message-ID: <2c37a3a2-239d-4e2d-bb24-e4707b65444d@getmailbird.com> Hi: I have been swamped with replies. Good for the reflector. With the number of replies I think I have everything taken care of. Tnx to all who replied. 73 De Mike VE3YF http://www.ve3yf.com [http://www.ve3yf.com/] From john at kk9a.com Wed Jun 15 07:55:20 2016 From: john at kk9a.com (john at kk9a.com) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 07:55:20 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 DVR Message-ID: <69a49071703d7d90a5e92e79af744214.squirrel@www11.qth.com> No, I use F2:%GK10 F3:%GK11 F4:%GK12 F5:%GK13 and define these GK commands in the writelog.ini. It works very well. N6EE wrote an excellent article on setting it up with Writelog. John KK9A John Santillo u1004467 at warwick.net Tue Jun 14 20:43:58 EDT 2016 Hello, Has anyone ever successfully used these CAT commands with WriteLog? I'm trying to minimize the amount of times I have to reach for the M1 button by using a function key on the keyboard. * Cat Macro strings used to play back Radio # 1 internal K3 CW/data messages or DVR voice keyer messages * M1 = {CAT1ASC SWT21;} * M2 = {CAT1ASC SWT31;} * M3 = {CAT1ASC SWT35;} * M4 = {CAT1ASC SWT39;} 73, John N2HMM From aurich85 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 15 07:56:42 2016 From: aurich85 at yahoo.com (Luke Aurich) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 07:56:42 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Firmware Suggestions Message-ID: <162195.25832.bm@smtp111.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From aurich85 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 15 08:23:11 2016 From: aurich85 at yahoo.com (Luke Aurich) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:23:11 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Battery Charger / Power Supply Message-ID: <223690.38843.bm@smtp229.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From w2blc at nycap.rr.com Wed Jun 15 09:07:45 2016 From: w2blc at nycap.rr.com (Bill) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 09:07:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K-pod Message-ID: <59e9dab5-723c-e7ac-9972-d503e0f76523@nycap.rr.com> Today is the K-pod's stated shipping date. Will it be a go? Bill W2BLC K-Line From g6glp at strus.co.uk Wed Jun 15 09:11:04 2016 From: g6glp at strus.co.uk (Tony G6GLP) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:11:04 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] K-pod In-Reply-To: <59e9dab5-723c-e7ac-9972-d503e0f76523@nycap.rr.com> References: <59e9dab5-723c-e7ac-9972-d503e0f76523@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: Hi Bill, Latest I heard from the elves is 27th for the start. 73 de Tony G6GLP On 15/06/2016 14:07, Bill wrote: > Today is the K-pod's stated shipping date. Will it be a go? > > Bill W2BLC K-Line > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to g6glp at strus.co.uk > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7640 / Virus Database: 4604/12424 - Release Date: > 06/15/16 From W4CCS at W4CCS.COM Wed Jun 15 09:23:32 2016 From: W4CCS at W4CCS.COM (W4CCS) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 09:23:32 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Strange P3 behavior Message-ID: <07a401d1c709$1d354b00$579fe100$@W4CCS.COM> Gents: Since I installed the KXV3B to add the second pre-amp in one of my K3's, I have experienced strange behavior in my P3. There seems to be lots of ghost traces (really bad when station has big signal) as well as these strange "humps" on the scope. Makes no difference if noise blanker (P3) is on or off. use this K3 on 6 meters only. K3 # 1 without the KXV3B has no issues. Anyone else experienced this or is this problem confined to my install. Clyde Scott - W4CCS Moultrie, GA - EM81cg From dave at nk7z.net Wed Jun 15 09:56:44 2016 From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 06:56:44 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Strange P3 behavior In-Reply-To: <07a401d1c709$1d354b00$579fe100$@W4CCS.COM> References: <07a401d1c709$1d354b00$579fe100$@W4CCS.COM> Message-ID: <1465999004.3752.182.camel@nk7z.net> On Wed, 2016-06-15 at 09:23 -0400, W4CCS wrote: > There seems to be lots of ghost traces (really bad when station has > big signal) as well as these strange "humps" on the scope. That is interesting you should mention that. ?I don't do a lot of 6 operations, but I also noticed a hump in the trace, that does not move when I tune... ?It is also there when I remove the antenna... ?So it is getting generated within the K3/P3 combo someplace... ? If I remove my antenna, I see it on all bands, at about S1, it does not move on the trace when I switch bands, or tune... ? I only see it on 6 during normal operations because my background noise is so low due to a crappy antenna... ?:) --? 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Wed Jun 15 10:15:41 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (Joe Stone (KF5WBO)) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 07:15:41 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K-pod In-Reply-To: <59e9dab5-723c-e7ac-9972-d503e0f76523@nycap.rr.com> References: <59e9dab5-723c-e7ac-9972-d503e0f76523@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: <1466000141405-7618871.post@n2.nabble.com> Now that the K-Pod is shipping, when will we see support for the KX3 (via the PX3)? Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K-pod-tp7618867p7618871.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Wed Jun 15 10:20:28 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (Joe Stone (KF5WBO)) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 07:20:28 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] [KX2] Schematics Message-ID: <1466000428813-7618872.post@n2.nabble.com> Typically, how long after an Elecraft product first ships are the schematics published? Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX2-Schematics-tp7618872.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Wed Jun 15 10:38:41 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (Joe Stone (KF5WBO)) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 07:38:41 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Battery Charger / Power Supply In-Reply-To: <223690.38843.bm@smtp229.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <223690.38843.bm@smtp229.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1466001521901-7618873.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi Luke, I assume you've discovered your last two posts, "KX2 Battery Charger / Power Supply" and "KX2 Firmware Suggestions", don't have any content (i.e., no body). Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX2-Battery-Charger-Power-Supply-tp7618866p7618873.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From n7rjn at nobis.net Wed Jun 15 10:51:18 2016 From: n7rjn at nobis.net (Robert Nobis) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 07:51:18 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K-pod In-Reply-To: <1466000141405-7618871.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <59e9dab5-723c-e7ac-9972-d503e0f76523@nycap.rr.com> <1466000141405-7618871.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Joe, I just checked the Elecraft web site, and see no indication that the K-Pod is actually shipping. 73, Bob Nobis - N7RJN n7rjn at nobis.net > On Jun 15, 2016, at 07:15, Joe Stone (KF5WBO) wrote: > > > Now that the K-Pod is shipping, when will we see support for the KX3 (via > the PX3)? > > Joe Stone > KF5WBO > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K-pod-tp7618867p7618871.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n7rjn at nobis.net > From kf5wdj at att.net Wed Jun 15 11:40:11 2016 From: kf5wdj at att.net (KF5WDJ) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 10:40:11 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Connections and Settings on K3s to drive an Ameritron ALS 600 Message-ID: <016b01d1c71c$347e9e20$9d7bda60$@att.net> Hi, What connecting cables and settings on the K3s do I need to drive an Ameritron ALS 600? Thanks, David From w0eb at cox.net Wed Jun 15 12:32:48 2016 From: w0eb at cox.net (Jim Sheldon) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:32:48 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: CW Operators - Semi-Automatic Bug Dot Stabilizers available again Message-ID: Semi-automatic "BUG" key Dot Stabilizer Information: Back in the late 1920's early 1930's, T.R. "Ted" McElroy (Morse copying World Champion) who also manufactured telegraph keys, came up with a nice innovation he called his "Dot Stabilizer" which pre-loaded the vibrating dot contact spring by a very small amount, effectively ensuring better dot weighting and came very close to completely eliminating the contact bounce which creates what many call "scratchy dot syndrome". This device required replacing the existing dot contact assembly with his stabilizer and fit only the McElroy manufactured keys. For some unknown reason, most information on this device was either lost or ignored during the WW2 years and after. After accidentally rediscovering it a couple of years ago, I undertook a slight redesign of McElroy's original device to eliminate the necessity for replacing the vibrating dot contact assembly. This makes the device easily installed and removed at any time with simple tools. I also came up with a further variation on McElroy's design that can be used on even the "Flat Pendulum" bugs such as the Vibroplex Lightning Bug, Military J-36 and Champion models as well as various copies of them and even the Japanese Hi Mound "Coffin" bug. I currently make "Dot Stabilizers" for the Vibroplex, Speed-X and McElroy keys having the round pendulum and bugs with the flat pendulum, such as the Vibroplex Lightning Bug, Champion and WW2 military J-36 bugs (including the Lionel models) which are based on the Lightning Bug design. I can also manufacture them for other bugs such as the Japanese Hi Mound ("Coffin") bug, European made (metric sizes) bugs, etc. as long as you can supply me with the diameter (round) or thickness (flat) of the pendulum and a sharply focused digital photo of the actual bug you want it for. (I only need photos and pendulum dimensions for bugs other than the McElroy and Vibroplex models.) They can be made out of either aluminum or brass though aluminum is the preferred material as it is far less expensive. They mount to the arm with a socket head set screw and the proper Allen wrench is included along with a printed set of instructions explaining installation and proper adjustment. Also, they are made entirely by hand so there may be slight differences between each one (won't affect the operation at all). The prices are $25 post paid for the aluminum and $35 for the brass ones to domestic USA customers. Due to large postage increases, International prices are $45 for the aluminum ones and $55 for the brass ones. This does include international First Class shipping. If you decide to order one or more, I will need the make/model of the bug(s) you want stabilizers for, whether they are "left" or "right" handed (the bug, not you) and be sure to include your mailing address as well. I take personal checks, USPS money orders (made out to Aubrey J. Sheldon) sent to my QRZ listed address (2029 East Evanston Dr., Park City, KS 67219-1618) or PayPal to w0eb at cox.net . International customers MUST, repeat MUST use PayPal as it is the only form of payment I can accept from customers in countries outside of the United States. I'll be happy to answer any further questions you may have. Please email inquiries direct to w0eb at cox.net rather than through the reflector to keep the list clutter down. Jim Sheldon - W0EB 2029 East Evanston Dr. Park City, KS 67219-1618 email to w0eb at cox.net From avavra1 at verizon.net Wed Jun 15 15:02:54 2016 From: avavra1 at verizon.net (KD3RF) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:02:54 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA Feature Request Message-ID: <1466017374318-7618877.post@n2.nabble.com> It would be great if the VGA adapter showed tic marks and frequency across the top or bottom of the display screen every 10 kHz or so like in this mocked-up picture. Scaling of the frequency display should change as bandwith is changed. For example, if looking at full band, scaling would be a tic mark every 20 Khz. If looking at a 50 kHz slice, scaling should be a tic mark every 2 kHz. Could something like this be accomplished with a software patch?? de Andy, KD3RF -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-SVGA-Feature-Request-tp7618877.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From w6jhb at me.com Wed Jun 15 15:05:20 2016 From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:05:20 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 / FLDIGI Question Message-ID: <15A7C4DF-0E7B-4CCC-B309-974E65CC53EA@me.com> Got a strange thing happening with my KX3 when I am running FLDIGI, and it just started happening in the past few days. FLDIGI is version 3.22.01. If I place FLDIGI into transmit mode the KX3 follows and whatever I type is transmitted - cool. However, when I tell FLDIGI to stop transmitting and go back to receive, FLDIGI quits sending audio as it has been instructed and ?appears? to go back to receive mode, but the KX3 TX light stays on and I have to press the XMIT button to make it go receive. Not cool. Furthermore, if I am using WSJT-X, T/R works fine. Running the KX3 in CW mode works fine - I press and release the key, the rig transmits and then goes back to receive. This obviously has something to do with FLDIGI. But I?m starting here with the Elecraft group in hopes someone has a suggestion. Any idea what I need to change to make the KX3 obey the FLDIGI command to return to receive mode? Thanks, Jim / W6JHB From w2kj at bellsouth.net Wed Jun 15 16:08:45 2016 From: w2kj at bellsouth.net (Joe W2KJ) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:08:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Happy Days Message-ID: Howdy Gang: Doing the happy dance right now...received the shipping notification from Elecraft for my KX2 and accessories. Ordered on 25 May...hopefully only a few days in shipping (USPS Priority) from the Left Coast. Glad to have it before Field Day so that I can give it a good shakeout. Will send in a report on its performance after I get some stick time on the rig. 73, Joe W2KJ I QRP, therefore I am From w6jhb at me.com Wed Jun 15 16:09:46 2016 From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 13:09:46 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 / FLDIGI Question In-Reply-To: <5761AC59.1070809@comcast.net> References: <15A7C4DF-0E7B-4CCC-B309-974E65CC53EA@me.com> <5761AC59.1070809@comcast.net> Message-ID: <318DF403-F146-42DB-8E99-41CE458C56FD@me.com> Brian - I killed it after 15 seconds, so I assume it would?ve stayed in Xmit mode forever. This just started happening a few days ago; prior to that it was fine and I had made a bunch of QSOs in PSK31. Sure don?t know what has made it start acting this way. Arrghhh?. Jim > On Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016, at Wednesday, 12:28 PM, brian wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > How long does it stay in xmit? > > I used FLDIGI in a recent RTTY contest with a K3. When going back to receive it had a long tail (3-5 seconds). Very annoying. > Don't know if it every worked right. Version 3.22.05. Used AFSK with VOX as PTT. > > I found no FLGIGI setting to eliminate the tail. > > OTOH WSPR worked just fine. > > 73 de Brian/K3KO > > On 6/15/2016 19:05 PM, James Bennett wrote: >> Got a strange thing happening with my KX3 when I am running FLDIGI, and it just started happening in the past few days. FLDIGI is version 3.22.01. >> >> If I place FLDIGI into transmit mode the KX3 follows and whatever I type is transmitted - cool. However, when I tell FLDIGI to stop transmitting and go back to receive, FLDIGI quits sending audio as it has been instructed and ?appears? to go back to receive mode, but the KX3 TX light stays on and I have to press the XMIT button to make it go receive. Not cool. >> >> Furthermore, if I am using WSJT-X, T/R works fine. >> >> Running the KX3 in CW mode works fine - I press and release the key, the rig transmits and then goes back to receive. This obviously has something to do with FLDIGI. But I?m starting here with the Elecraft group in hopes someone has a suggestion. >> >> Any idea what I need to change to make the KX3 obey the FLDIGI command to return to receive mode? >> >> Thanks, Jim / W6JHB >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to alsopb at comcast.net >> From K2TK at att.net Wed Jun 15 16:12:23 2016 From: K2TK at att.net (Bob) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:12:23 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod and Marcos Message-ID: <28a468c7-0903-960c-4771-c82e8e182c56@att.net> Hi, As I sit awaiting the K-Pod I'm looking for possible uses of it beyond the remote tuning knob. . Suddenly 16 possible selections will be available with the TAP or HOLD functions of the PB switches . So far I have seven potential uses with 2 still at the K3 using the PF buttons. A lot of potential will be sitting unused. Looking back Fred, KE7X proposed a macro repository and it still exists here: http://www.ke7x.com/home/k3-macro-repository It is certainly underutilized. Another source is Dave's, NK7Z. keyboard project: http://nk7z.net/adding-an-external-keypad-to-the-k3/ A Google search reveals more macro's. But not any central location. The value of a central location is not entirely in preventing reinventing the wheel. There are many clever individuals on this list and the real value of a repository is in the "Aha" moment of "Why didn't I think of that.". I'd love to see a central location. It may be Elecraft could host it. Possibly with 2 areas. Elecraft checked for all models and unchecked user submitted macro's. Elecraft hosting surely would be a value added to their product line. A concept from the new KX2 may be adaptable to a K3/K3S. But sharing is required. 73, Bob K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR A From michael.cook at schulich.uwo.ca Wed Jun 15 16:22:29 2016 From: michael.cook at schulich.uwo.ca (Michael Cook) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:22:29 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Frequency Memory Editor Message-ID: <576180C5020000520004F61C@schulich.uwo.ca> I am a new KX3 owner and want to use the editor to populate the memories. I have version 1.5.7.20 running on my PC under Windows 10. The program loads but the window does not look quite the same as that shown in Elecraft's literature. Specifically the rightmost column I can see is labeled "Mode B". I do not see "Data Mode", "Offset" or "PL Tone" columns. I would appreciate any advice that might apply. Michael Cook From w2blc at nycap.rr.com Wed Jun 15 16:27:18 2016 From: w2blc at nycap.rr.com (Bill) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:27:18 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod and Marcos In-Reply-To: <28a468c7-0903-960c-4771-c82e8e182c56@att.net> References: <28a468c7-0903-960c-4771-c82e8e182c56@att.net> Message-ID: I have a keypad - using 47 of 48 keys now - and am looking forward to the K-pod also. The beauty of macros for these devices is setting up things "your" way. I even moved the direct keyboard frequency entry to the keypad. So much handier. I already have a list of macros for the K-pod. After all, a button is a terrible thing to waste! Bill W2BLC K-Line From jim at n7us.net Wed Jun 15 16:29:02 2016 From: jim at n7us.net (Jim McDonald) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:29:02 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod and Marcos In-Reply-To: <28a468c7-0903-960c-4771-c82e8e182c56@att.net> References: <28a468c7-0903-960c-4771-c82e8e182c56@att.net> Message-ID: <015b01d1c744$8eb97f40$ac2c7dc0$@n7us.net> I use several with DXLab's Commander rig control module. They use standard K3 commands so could be used with a K-Pod. They are in the Files area of the Yahoo Group for DXLab. I believe you need to be a member of that Yahoo Group to access them; they are at http://tinyurl.com/q5lqaa4 . The ones I use in Commander include, Spot, VOX, Tune (at 15W, then back to full power), speakers on/off, TX test, one to adjust the tuning rate using CONFIG:VFO CTS, one to select two different mics, one on the front and one connected to the back, each with different TX settings, front/rear panel mic selection, and another to do a "reverse split." 73, Jim N7US -----Original Message----- Hi, As I sit awaiting the K-Pod I'm looking for possible uses of it beyond the remote tuning knob. . Suddenly 16 possible selections will be available with the TAP or HOLD functions of the PB switches . So far I have seven potential uses with 2 still at the K3 using the PF buttons. A lot of potential will be sitting unused. Looking back Fred, KE7X proposed a macro repository and it still exists here: http://www.ke7x.com/home/k3-macro-repository It is certainly underutilized. Another source is Dave's, NK7Z. keyboard project: http://nk7z.net/adding-an-external-keypad-to-the-k3/ A Google search reveals more macro's. But not any central location. The value of a central location is not entirely in preventing reinventing the wheel. There are many clever individuals on this list and the real value of a repository is in the "Aha" moment of "Why didn't I think of that.". I'd love to see a central location. It may be Elecraft could host it. Possibly with 2 areas. Elecraft checked for all models and unchecked user submitted macro's. Elecraft hosting surely would be a value added to their product line. A concept from the new KX2 may be adaptable to a K3/K3S. But sharing is required. 73, Bob K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR A From dick at elecraft.com Wed Jun 15 16:43:58 2016 From: dick at elecraft.com (Dick Dievendorff) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 13:43:58 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Frequency Memory Editor In-Reply-To: <576180C5020000520004F61C@schulich.uwo.ca> References: <576180C5020000520004F61C@schulich.uwo.ca> Message-ID: <002a01d1c746$a5e60b50$f1b221f0$@elecraft.com> Some columns appear only when certain modes are visible on the page. Data mode only appears if you have one or more memories visible with Mode A or Mode B set to "Data" Offset and PL tone appear if you have one or memories visible with Mode A or Mode B set to FM. 73 de Dick, K6KR -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Michael Cook Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 13:22 To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Frequency Memory Editor I am a new KX3 owner and want to use the editor to populate the memories. I have version 1.5.7.20 running on my PC under Windows 10. The program loads but the window does not look quite the same as that shown in Elecraft's literature. Specifically the rightmost column I can see is labeled "Mode B". I do not see "Data Mode", "Offset" or "PL Tone" columns. I would appreciate any advice that might apply. Michael Cook ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to dick at elecraft.com From donwilh at embarqmail.com Wed Jun 15 17:00:45 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 17:00:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Frequency Memory Editor In-Reply-To: <576180C5020000520004F61C@schulich.uwo.ca> References: <576180C5020000520004F61C@schulich.uwo.ca> Message-ID: <5a3dbeb9-bf9a-f4f8-e2f7-ca2f5e14d50c@embarqmail.com> Michael, That is the mode to be associated with VFO B. MODE A is the mode for VFO A. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/15/2016 4:22 PM, Michael Cook wrote: > I am a new KX3 owner and want to use the editor to populate the memories. I have version 1.5.7.20 running on my PC under Windows 10. The program loads but the window does not look quite the same as that shown in Elecraft's literature. Specifically the rightmost column I can see is labeled "Mode B". I do not see "Data Mode", "Offset" or "PL Tone" columns. I would appreciate any advice that might apply. > > From dave at nk7z.net Wed Jun 15 16:55:48 2016 From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 13:55:48 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA Feature Request In-Reply-To: <1466017374318-7618877.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1466017374318-7618877.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1466024148.7827.3.camel@nk7z.net> On Wed, 2016-06-15 at 12:02 -0700, KD3RF wrote: > It would be great if the VGA adapter showed tic marks and frequency > across > the top or bottom of the display screen every 10 kHz or so like in > this > mocked-up picture. > > ? > > Scaling of the frequency display should change as bandwith is > changed.??For > example, if looking at full band, scaling would be a tic mark every 20 > Khz.? > If looking at a 50 kHz slice, scaling should be a tic mark every 2 > kHz. > > Could something like this be accomplished with a software patch?? > > de Andy, KD3RF > >? I would not mind that either, in fact, I would like to have some vertical markings for frequency on the P3 itself as well... -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net From kevin at k4vd.net Wed Jun 15 17:32:57 2016 From: kevin at k4vd.net (Kevin - K4VD) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 17:32:57 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Frequency Memory Editor In-Reply-To: <576180C5020000520004F61C@schulich.uwo.ca> References: <576180C5020000520004F61C@schulich.uwo.ca> Message-ID: I'm running the same version and see Mode B on a fresh sheet. Start filling out a line. Select DATA for Mode A and a new column will pop into existence for Data Mode. Kev On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Michael Cook wrote: > I am a new KX3 owner and want to use the editor to populate the memories. > I have version 1.5.7.20 running on my PC under Windows 10. The program > loads but the window does not look quite the same as that shown in > Elecraft's literature. Specifically the rightmost column I can see is > labeled "Mode B". I do not see "Data Mode", "Offset" or "PL Tone" columns. > I would appreciate any advice that might apply. > > Michael Cook > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevin at k4vd.net > From rcrgs at verizon.net Wed Jun 15 18:11:19 2016 From: rcrgs at verizon.net (Robert G Strickland) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 22:11:19 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] (K2) distortion on CW receive Message-ID: <5761D287.4040803@verizon.net> #5957 has been on the shelf for a while [2yrs]. When fired up in prep for Field Day, the received CW tone is significantly distorted in head phones on all bands. The side tone frequency set is very clean as is the adjustment for side tone volume. I have no test equipment at this time, so it's pretty much menu items and adjustments or send it to Don. Suggestions welcome. Thanks. ...robert -- Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY rcrgs at verizon.net.usa Syracuse, New York, USA From egrimseid at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 18:16:08 2016 From: egrimseid at gmail.com (Erlend Grimseid) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 00:16:08 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 / FLDIGI Question In-Reply-To: <15A7C4DF-0E7B-4CCC-B309-974E65CC53EA@me.com> References: <15A7C4DF-0E7B-4CCC-B309-974E65CC53EA@me.com> Message-ID: Hi. I belive this issue has been reported with this version of Fldigi for other radios as well. Seems to be an bug in Fldigi. What os are you running? 73 La4tta Erlend 15. jun. 2016 21:06 skrev "James Bennett" : > Got a strange thing happening with my KX3 when I am running FLDIGI, and it > just started happening in the past few days. FLDIGI is version 3.22.01. > > If I place FLDIGI into transmit mode the KX3 follows and whatever I type > is transmitted - cool. However, when I tell FLDIGI to stop transmitting and > go back to receive, FLDIGI quits sending audio as it has been instructed > and ?appears? to go back to receive mode, but the KX3 TX light stays on and > I have to press the XMIT button to make it go receive. Not cool. > > Furthermore, if I am using WSJT-X, T/R works fine. > > Running the KX3 in CW mode works fine - I press and release the key, the > rig transmits and then goes back to receive. This obviously has something > to do with FLDIGI. But I?m starting here with the Elecraft group in hopes > someone has a suggestion. > > Any idea what I need to change to make the KX3 obey the FLDIGI command to > return to receive mode? > > Thanks, Jim / W6JHB > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to egrimseid at gmail.com From michael.cook at schulich.uwo.ca Wed Jun 15 18:17:12 2016 From: michael.cook at schulich.uwo.ca (Michael Cook) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:17:12 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Frequency Memory Editor Message-ID: <57619BB8020000520004F62D@schulich.uwo.ca> Thanks Kevin and Don. Problem is now solved. Entering data expanded the columns as you suggested. Memories are now loaded. Much appreciated. MC Sent from my iPad From donwilh at embarqmail.com Wed Jun 15 18:56:58 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:56:58 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] (K2) distortion on CW receive In-Reply-To: <5761D287.4040803@verizon.net> References: <5761D287.4040803@verizon.net> Message-ID: <397ea6b6-fc4b-6dbb-5d40-5ade55b6696d@embarqmail.com> Robert, Do you have the KDSP2 installed? If so, check the nr and nt settings in the DSP menu. If you see a dot before either or both, turn them off and see if the distortion goes away. Those functions, if used with aggressive settings will cause distortion. The sidetone is fed separately and does not go through the DSP processor. If that is not the problem, then you likely have mis-aligned IF filters. I recall I have worked on your K2 before, and you should have a chart of the filter settings. I can tell you how to restore the proper settings via off-list email. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/15/2016 6:11 PM, Robert G Strickland wrote: > #5957 has been on the shelf for a while [2yrs]. When fired up in prep > for Field Day, the received CW tone is significantly distorted in head > phones on all bands. The side tone frequency set is very clean as is > the adjustment for side tone volume. I have no test equipment at this > time, so it's pretty much menu items and adjustments or send it to > Don. Suggestions welcome. Thanks. > > ...robert From doug at ellmore.net Wed Jun 15 19:06:46 2016 From: doug at ellmore.net (Doug Ellmore) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:06:46 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] CQ FD de NA3DX Message-ID: Community News The Explorers Radio Club's Amateur Radio Club invites the public to witness and participate in the Amateur Radio Relay Leagues 24 hr Field Day Event June 25 at 2pm to June 26 at 2pm. During the event, ham radio operators all over the country will be participating in "Field Day." Field day is a demonstration of the public service, contesting, and disaster preparation all rolled up into one event each year. Additional information about attending the event is available on the Explorers Radio Club Field Day site is at http://www.na3dx.org/ or via email at na1dx at arrl.net. Additional information about Amateur Radio is available at http://www.arrl.org/. The Explorers Radio Club is one of the top amateur radio Field Day scoring clubs in it's division in the country. You can see state of the art communications technology mixed with the oldest virtual digital communication methods. Please bring family and friends and get an introduction to the hobby. The public can participate in making contacts using the special Get On The Air (GOTA) station. Doug Ellmore, Sr. President, Explorers Radio Club na1dx at arrl.net From aurich85 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 15 19:18:51 2016 From: aurich85 at yahoo.com (Luke) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 23:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Firmware Suggestions In-Reply-To: <8b987126-a452-4026-b950-6d0fb82aa5e4@email.android.com> References: <8b987126-a452-4026-b950-6d0fb82aa5e4@email.android.com> Message-ID: <1095602060.3952035.1466032731700.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Let's try this again! For whatever reason my gmail app on my Android must be formatting something incorrectly. Thanks to all the Elecraft folks for this fantastic little radio. I'm really enjoying mine! I do have a couple of potential firmware suggestions: It would be great if the VOX and MIC BTN settings could be turned ON/OFF without having the MH3 microphone plugged in. Supposing a guy went on a business trip and only intended to run JT65 from his hotel room. If he happened to leave his MH3 at home there would be no way toggle those settings and he'd be out of luck. I understand that you can't use VOX with the internal mic in SSB modes, so maybe at least make it so that they will function when in a DATA mode (DATA A, AFSK, etc.) Currently you can use the LOCK button to lock out the VFO knob. It would be great if the user could use the KX2 Utility or menu settings to designate what buttons and knobs get locked out when LOCK is activated. Yesterday, on a summit I found that I kept bumping the MIC GAIN knob and changing the value. I wished I could just hit the LOCK button and lock everything out. Something similar to the Yaesu FT-817 (Lock buttons, lock knobs, lock all) would be great. Thanks again! Luke?AD0KI From aurich85 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 15 19:19:51 2016 From: aurich85 at yahoo.com (Luke) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 23:19:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Battery Charger / Power Supply References: <320305604.3948451.1466032791984.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <320305604.3948451.1466032791984.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I realize there's probably some lithium specific charging routine in the Tenergy charger, but it would be great if this could be bypassed and the charger used as an external power supply for the KX2. I have an almost identical AC-DC converter that I installed PowerPoles on and use as a power supply for other radio gear, but it would be nice to only bring one charger/supply when I travel. Luke AD0KI From wunder at wunderwood.org Wed Jun 15 19:27:52 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:27:52 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] CQ FD de NA3DX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6C76C966-71BC-436B-A63B-4F10BB082019@wunderwood.org> 1. It would be a great help for anyone who would like to attend to know where this wonderful event is happening. 2. This is not about Elecraft equipment or users. There is not even a suggestion that Elecraft equipment will be at the event. I appreciate your enthusiasm, but this is almost certainly the wrong forum for this announcement. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jun 15, 2016, at 4:06 PM, Doug Ellmore wrote: > > Community News > > The Explorers Radio Club's Amateur Radio Club invites the public to witness > and participate in the Amateur Radio Relay Leagues 24 hr Field Day > Event June 25 at 2pm to June 26 at 2pm. > > During the event, ham radio operators all over the country will be > participating in "Field Day." Field day is a demonstration of the public > service, contesting, and disaster preparation all rolled up into one event > each year. > > Additional information about attending the event is available on > the Explorers Radio Club Field Day site is at http://www.na3dx.org/ or via > email at na1dx at arrl.net. Additional information about Amateur Radio is > available at http://www.arrl.org/. > > The Explorers Radio Club is one of the top amateur radio Field Day scoring > clubs in it's division in the country. You can see state of the art > communications technology mixed with the oldest virtual digital > communication methods. > > Please bring family and friends and get an introduction to the hobby. The > public can participate in making contacts using the special Get On The Air > (GOTA) station. > > > Doug Ellmore, Sr. > President, Explorers Radio Club > na1dx at arrl.net > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Wed Jun 15 19:31:10 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (Joe Stone (KF5WBO)) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:31:10 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K-pod In-Reply-To: References: <59e9dab5-723c-e7ac-9972-d503e0f76523@nycap.rr.com> <1466000141405-7618871.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1466033470399-7618896.post@n2.nabble.com> I see Elecraft just removed the "June 15, 2016" date from the K-Pod page, http://www.elecraft.com/k-pod/k-pod.htm and updated the shipping status page to reflect "June 28, 2016", http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm I'm still interested in knowing when the K-Pod will support the KX3 (via the PX3). :-) Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K-pod-tp7618867p7618896.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From doug at ellmore.net Wed Jun 15 19:33:32 2016 From: doug at ellmore.net (Doug Ellmore) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:33:32 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] CQ FD de NA3DX In-Reply-To: <6C76C966-71BC-436B-A63B-4F10BB082019@wunderwood.org> References: <6C76C966-71BC-436B-A63B-4F10BB082019@wunderwood.org> Message-ID: The Explorers Radio Club operates near Annapolis, MD and uses 4 KX3 for 3A Battery (QRP) + GOTA and a K3 for 6m/2m VHF (QRP). See www.na3dx.org. Doug NA1DX On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: > 1. It would be a great help for anyone who would like to attend to know > where this wonderful event is happening. > > 2. This is not about Elecraft equipment or users. There is not even a > suggestion that Elecraft equipment will be at the event. I appreciate your > enthusiasm, but this is almost certainly the wrong forum for this > announcement. > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > > On Jun 15, 2016, at 4:06 PM, Doug Ellmore wrote: > > Community News > > The Explorers Radio Club's Amateur Radio Club invites the public to witness > and participate in the Amateur Radio Relay Leagues 24 hr Field Day > Event June 25 at 2pm to June 26 at 2pm. > > During the event, ham radio operators all over the country will be > participating in "Field Day." Field day is a demonstration of the public > service, contesting, and disaster preparation all rolled up into one event > each year. > > Additional information about attending the event is available on > the Explorers Radio Club Field Day site is at http://www.na3dx.org/ or via > email at na1dx at arrl.net. Additional information about Amateur Radio is > available at http://www.arrl.org/. > > The Explorers Radio Club is one of the top amateur radio Field Day scoring > clubs in it's division in the country. You can see state of the art > communications technology mixed with the oldest virtual digital > communication methods. > > Please bring family and friends and get an introduction to the hobby. The > public can participate in making contacts using the special Get On The Air > (GOTA) station. > > > Doug Ellmore, Sr. > President, Explorers Radio Club > na1dx at arrl.net > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org > > > -- Doug Ellmore doug at ellmore.net Computer Scientists do precision guess work based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge. From w2blc at nycap.rr.com Wed Jun 15 19:47:32 2016 From: w2blc at nycap.rr.com (Bill) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:47:32 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K-pod In-Reply-To: <1466033470399-7618896.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1466033470399-7618896.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Guess I will content myself with my Pigknob and be glad I have it. It has a two-speed VFO and eight programmable buttons. Bill W2BLC K-Line From wunder at wunderwood.org Wed Jun 15 19:52:45 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:52:45 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K-pod In-Reply-To: References: <1466033470399-7618896.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <23F8A9BB-8B6D-4E08-8C20-599CA215437B@wunderwood.org> I?m getting mental images of The Mighty Wurlitzer organ. What? Only one foot pedal? I know a couple of professional organists who have special ?organ shoes? to play the pedals. Hmm, maybe I need to sell ?DX Shoes?. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jun 15, 2016, at 4:47 PM, Bill wrote: > > Guess I will content myself with my Pigknob and be glad I have it. It has a two-speed VFO and eight programmable buttons. > > Bill W2BLC K-Line > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From w6jhb at me.com Wed Jun 15 19:54:50 2016 From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:54:50 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Minimum Drive? Message-ID: <68CA97B4-3EDF-46A1-85A3-FD6EFCC2AD90@me.com> I share my KPA500 with a K3 and a KX3. When I want to operate JT65 or JT9 I normally run about 25 watts out, using the KX3 to drive the amp. With the KX3 set to 1.8 watts out, the amp gives me 25; with 2.2 watts from the KX3, I get 30 watts out from the amp. But, what if I want to run 20 watts? Or 15? When I back the KX3 power level below 1.8, the KPA500 shows zero on the LED power display. Does this mean it is no longer amplifying, or is it actually amplifying but not enough for the circuitry to determine how much? Jim Bennett / W6JHB Folsom, CA From kevin at k4vd.net Wed Jun 15 20:19:08 2016 From: kevin at k4vd.net (Kevin - K4VD) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 20:19:08 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] CQ FD de NA3DX In-Reply-To: References: <6C76C966-71BC-436B-A63B-4F10BB082019@wunderwood.org> Message-ID: Nice! I'll be working with a friend up on Skyline Drive with a KX3 and K1. Hope to work the Explorers Radio Club. Good luck & 73, Kev On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Doug Ellmore wrote: > The Explorers Radio Club operates near Annapolis, MD and uses 4 KX3 for 3A > Battery (QRP) + GOTA and a K3 for 6m/2m VHF (QRP). See www.na3dx.org. > > Doug NA1DX > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Walter Underwood > wrote: > > > 1. It would be a great help for anyone who would like to attend to know > > where this wonderful event is happening. > > > > 2. This is not about Elecraft equipment or users. There is not even a > > suggestion that Elecraft equipment will be at the event. I appreciate > your > > enthusiasm, but this is almost certainly the wrong forum for this > > announcement. > > > > wunder > > K6WRU > > Walter Underwood > > CM87wj > > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > > > > On Jun 15, 2016, at 4:06 PM, Doug Ellmore wrote: > > > > Community News > > > > The Explorers Radio Club's Amateur Radio Club invites the public to > witness > > and participate in the Amateur Radio Relay Leagues 24 hr Field Day > > Event June 25 at 2pm to June 26 at 2pm. > > > > During the event, ham radio operators all over the country will be > > participating in "Field Day." Field day is a demonstration of the public > > service, contesting, and disaster preparation all rolled up into one > event > > each year. > > > > Additional information about attending the event is available on > > the Explorers Radio Club Field Day site is at http://www.na3dx.org/ or > via > > email at na1dx at arrl.net. Additional information about Amateur Radio is > > available at http://www.arrl.org/. > > > > The Explorers Radio Club is one of the top amateur radio Field Day > scoring > > clubs in it's division in the country. You can see state of the art > > communications technology mixed with the oldest virtual digital > > communication methods. > > > > Please bring family and friends and get an introduction to the hobby. > The > > public can participate in making contacts using the special Get On The > Air > > (GOTA) station. > > > > > > Doug Ellmore, Sr. > > President, Explorers Radio Club > > na1dx at arrl.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org > > > > > > > > > -- > Doug Ellmore > doug at ellmore.net > > Computer Scientists do precision guess work based on unreliable data > provided by those of questionable knowledge. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevin at k4vd.net > From w7ox at socal.rr.com Wed Jun 15 20:20:52 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 17:20:52 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Minimum Drive? In-Reply-To: <68CA97B4-3EDF-46A1-85A3-FD6EFCC2AD90@me.com> References: <68CA97B4-3EDF-46A1-85A3-FD6EFCC2AD90@me.com> Message-ID: <01bf64da-0c84-abd0-4c4a-8b03b6293d89@socal.rr.com> Seems like if you want to run such low power levels, you'd go barefoot and not use the amp, Jim. Phil W7OX On 6/15/16 4:54 PM, James Bennett wrote: > I share my KPA500 with a K3 and a KX3. When I want to operate JT65 or JT9 I normally run about 25 watts out, using the KX3 to drive the amp. With the KX3 set to 1.8 watts out, the amp gives me 25; with 2.2 watts from the KX3, I get 30 watts out from the amp. > > But, what if I want to run 20 watts? Or 15? When I back the KX3 power level below 1.8, the KPA500 shows zero on the LED power display. Does this mean it is no longer amplifying, or is it actually amplifying but not enough for the circuitry to determine how much? > > Jim Bennett / W6JHB > Folsom, CA From xdavid at cis-broadband.com Wed Jun 15 20:24:55 2016 From: xdavid at cis-broadband.com (David Gilbert) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 17:24:55 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] 4-band K1 for sale Message-ID: I have a 4-band K1 for sale ... 40m/30m/20m/15m. S/N is 412 and it was carefully built by me and works great. I've taken excellent care of it (non-smoker) and it is in mint condition. No dings, scuffs, or scratches and I've never had a bit of trouble with it. If I remember correctly it has had the AGC mod (capacitor change, I think) and maybe the mod to eliminate the pop after the attenuator is turned off, but I don't guarantee either. It includes the KAT1 antenna tuner, a simple homebrew bale that acts either as a tilt stand or a guard for the front panel during transit, and a homebrew LED backlight for the display (not as nice as the Elecraft one but it works and draws only about 5 ma). Included are the original manuals for both the K1 and KAT1, as well as a 3 foot long power cord with alligator clips on one end and the proper coaxial power plug on the other end. Asking $450 shipped/insured within U.S. PayPal preferred but will accept other means of payment under the condition that funds need to clear before I ship. Dave AB7E From w2blc at nycap.rr.com Wed Jun 15 20:43:38 2016 From: w2blc at nycap.rr.com (Bill) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 20:43:38 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K-pod In-Reply-To: <23F8A9BB-8B6D-4E08-8C20-599CA215437B@wunderwood.org> References: <23F8A9BB-8B6D-4E08-8C20-599CA215437B@wunderwood.org> Message-ID: <171208d7-d736-e57b-8908-71d646fdb688@nycap.rr.com> Using a keypad and the Pigknob allow me to control my K3 from the near edge of my desk. Otherwise, I must turn my chair around and reach across the desk to the rig. Quite frankly, for general operating, I find my TS480 far more convenient to use. The control head is not attached to the radio and can be placed at any location on the desk or in my lap. I had hoped the "mini" would allow a similar operating convenience. Alas, no - unless I wanted to spend a lot of money on a computer complex system with wires all over the place and even then I am not sure it would have done what I wanted. Oh, years ago I used to play organ and never shoes on the woods. There were a lot of stops on the bigger organs - some even placed logically and others not so much. Bill W2BLC K-Line From tcrayner at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 21:08:38 2016 From: tcrayner at gmail.com (Tom Crayner) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 21:08:38 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Firmware Suggestions In-Reply-To: <1095602060.3952035.1466032731700.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <8b987126-a452-4026-b950-6d0fb82aa5e4@email.android.com> <1095602060.3952035.1466032731700.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Luke, I've found that if I have an audio cable plugged in and connected to a computer, the KX2 thinks there's a mic load and will let you change those settings... provided you are in SSB. If in DATA mode it will tell you N/A I seem to recall. So just change modes to SSB, change the MIC settings in the menu and change back to DATA with the rig's audio plugged in to your computer's sound inputs and see if that works. I set MIC BIAS to off and MIC BTN to off when using the KX2 for data modes to prevent erroneous PTTs from occurring with the audio cables and sound card... otherwise I've found the radio can get a bit confused, thinking it is in PTT, but not going into TX. Tom (W2YF) On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 7:18 PM, Luke via Elecraft wrote: > Let's try this again! For whatever reason my gmail app on my Android must > be formatting something incorrectly. > Thanks to all the Elecraft folks for this fantastic little radio. I'm > really enjoying mine! > I do have a couple of potential firmware suggestions: > It would be great if the VOX and MIC BTN settings could be turned ON/OFF > without having the MH3 microphone plugged in. Supposing a guy went on a > business trip and only intended to run JT65 from his hotel room. If he > happened to leave his MH3 at home there would be no way toggle those > settings and he'd be out of luck. I understand that you can't use VOX with > the internal mic in SSB modes, so maybe at least make it so that they will > function when in a DATA mode (DATA A, AFSK, etc.) > Currently you can use the LOCK button to lock out the VFO knob. It would > be great if the user could use the KX2 Utility or menu settings to > designate what buttons and knobs get locked out when LOCK is activated. > Yesterday, on a summit I found that I kept bumping the MIC GAIN knob and > changing the value. I wished I could just hit the LOCK button and lock > everything out. Something similar to the Yaesu FT-817 (Lock buttons, lock > knobs, lock all) would be great. > Thanks again! > Luke AD0KI > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to tcrayner at gmail.com From jbeitchman at jgbconsult.com Wed Jun 15 21:25:27 2016 From: jbeitchman at jgbconsult.com (James Beitchman) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 21:25:27 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: CW Operators - Semi-Automatic Bug Dot Stabilizers availabe again Message-ID: Last time this appeared on the reflector there was a good deal of skepticism. Consider this an unsolicited testimonial. I am an inveterate bug user and I bought one of these dot stabilizers for my old Vibroplex. If you are a bug user - not many of us left, I think - this little device really can make a great difference in the signal quality and uniformity of the dots generated by your bug. The clean break of the contacts of the bug dot-forming mechanism is clearly noticeable - no "scratchiness" from the zero tension break, more uniform dot lengths and easier control result. It does not, however cure the lovely artifacts of bug sending that disturb some purists and decoders. Try it 73 Buzz W3EMD Semi-automatic "BUG" key Dot Stabilizer Information: Back in the late 1920's early 1930's, T.R. "Ted" McElroy (Morse copying World Champion) who also manufactured telegraph keys, came up with a nice innovation he called his "Dot Stabilizer" which pre-loaded the vibrating dot contact spring by a very small amount, effectively ensuring better dot weighting and came very close to completely eliminating the contact bounce which creates what many call "scratchy dot syndrome". This device required replacing the existing dot contact assembly with his stabilizer and fit only the McElroy manufactured keys. For some unknown reason, most information on this device was either lost or ignored during the WW2 years and after. After accidentally rediscovering it a couple of years ago, I undertook a slight redesign of McElroy's original device to eliminate the necessity for replacing the vibrating dot contact assembly. This makes the device easily installed and removed at any time with simple tools. I also came up with a further variation on McElroy's design that can be used on even the "Flat Pendulum" bugs such as the Vibroplex Lightning Bug, Military J-36 and Champion models as well as various copies of them and even the Japanese Hi Mound "Coffin" bug. I currently make "Dot Stabilizers" for the Vibroplex, Speed-X and McElroy keys having the round pendulum and bugs with the flat pendulum, such as the Vibroplex Lightning Bug, Champion and WW2 military J-36 bugs (including the Lionel models) which are based on the Lightning Bug design. I can also manufacture them for other bugs such as the Japanese Hi Mound ("Coffin") bug, European made (metric sizes) bugs, etc. as long as you can supply me with the diameter (round) or thickness (flat) of the pendulum and a sharply focused digital photo of the actual bug you want it for. (I only need photos and pendulum dimensions for bugs other than the McElroy and Vibroplex models.) They can be made out of either aluminum or brass though aluminum is the preferred material as it is far less expensive. They mount to the arm with a socket head set screw and the proper Allen wrench is included along with a printed set of instructions explaining installation and proper adjustment. Also, they are made entirely by hand so there may be slight differences between each one (won't affect the operation at all). The prices are $25 post paid for the aluminum and $35 for the brass ones to domestic USA customers. Due to large postage increases, International prices are $45 for the aluminum ones and $55 for the brass ones. This does include international First Class shipping. If you decide to order one or more, I will need the make/model of the bug(s) you want stabilizers for, whether they are "left" or "right" handed (the bug, not you) and be sure to include your mailing address as well. I take personal checks, USPS money orders (made out to Aubrey J. Sheldon) sent to my QRZ listed address (2029 East Evanston Dr., Park City, KS 67219-1618) or PayPal to w0eb at cox.net . International customers MUST, repeat MUST use PayPal as it is the only form of payment I can accept from customers in countries outside of the United States. I'll be happy to answer any further questions you may have. Please email inquiries direct to w0eb at cox.net rather than through the reflector to keep the list clutter down. Jim Sheldon - W0EB 2029 East Evanston Dr. Park City, KS 67219-1618 email to w0eb at cox.net From w7aqk at cox.net Wed Jun 15 21:53:01 2016 From: w7aqk at cox.net (w7aqk) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:53:01 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Connections and Settings on K3s to drive an Message-ID: <99DFE167539A4A1194753EE616121B98@LAPTOPEPVQLR1I> David and All, What all are you planning on hooking up to the ALS-600? Are you going to use any kind of tuner with it??? I had an ALS-600, with the standard power supply, for a short while, driving it with my K3. The connections are pretty minimal--just interconnect the RF out on the K3 to the ALS-600, and run a keying line between both. The ALS-600 also has provision for an ALC line, but I didn't try to use it. As I recall, it took something over 30 watts out from the K3 to drive the ALS-600 to "full output." Full output seemed to be closer to 500 watts than 600 watts. I didn't try to push it too hard. I was running it on 120 Volts, by the way. The amp was pretty sensitive to SWR, and would trip off easily. My antennas were a decent match, but still, I had to "sneak" up on full output. Overall, I'd say the amp worked O.K., but it sure is a noisy devil!!! That relay really makes a lot of noise, particularly if you are a CW op. It's not a QSK amp, but I converted mine to one by installing Phil Salas' (AD5X) QSK kit. I was a bunch happier with the amp after doing that!!! Even if you are not a CW op, I highly recommend the kit because it makes it so much quieter. Anyway, shortly thereafter, I went to a KPA500, and am thrilled with that decision. I won't try to "sell" you on that other than to say it is a "night and day" comparison. I might also add, however, that the ALS-600, for whatever reason, seems to draw more current than the KPA500 does. The ALS-600 would trip the circuit breaker on my 120 volt circuit every so often, but not so with the KPA500. I was never really able to get 600 watts out of the ALS-600, but that may have been due to using 120 volts. With the KPA500, though, I can get 600 watts easily--I just don't run it that hard. 450 to 500 watts is plenty in my book, and if anyone can really tell the difference between that and 600 watts, he is a better man than I am! Hope this helps, but others may have much better info. 73, Dave W7AQK From k6dgw at foothill.net Wed Jun 15 22:15:54 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:15:54 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Minimum Drive? In-Reply-To: <68CA97B4-3EDF-46A1-85A3-FD6EFCC2AD90@me.com> References: <68CA97B4-3EDF-46A1-85A3-FD6EFCC2AD90@me.com> Message-ID: Hmmm ... I guess first question is, what's the problem? 25 W to 20W is slightly less than 1 dB, 0.16 S-unit. Just run barefoot? The LED Power display on the KPA500 is digital. It "measures the power," and puts it into one of a number of bins. If something is in the bin, it lights the LED. If the measured power isn't high enough for the lowest bin, all the bins are empty, no LED's light up, although there is still RF being made. Measuring power with simple instruments is hard ... well, sort of impossible. You can measure the voltage, but then you need to know the impedance, a complex number, not easily measured with a DVM. You can measure the current -- same problem. KPA500 is designed to emit 500W with 25-30W input. I think you're pushing the envelope here and nothing is wrong. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org On 6/15/2016 4:54 PM, James Bennett wrote: > I share my KPA500 with a K3 and a KX3. When I want to operate JT65 or > JT9 I normally run about 25 watts out, using the KX3 to drive the > amp. With the KX3 set to 1.8 watts out, the amp gives me 25; with 2.2 > watts from the KX3, I get 30 watts out from the amp. > > But, what if I want to run 20 watts? Or 15? When I back the KX3 power > level below 1.8, the KPA500 shows zero on the LED power display. Does > this mean it is no longer amplifying, or is it actually amplifying > but not enough for the circuitry to determine how much? > > Jim Bennett / W6JHB Folsom, CA From w8fn at tx.rr.com Wed Jun 15 22:26:10 2016 From: w8fn at tx.rr.com (Randy Farmer) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 21:26:10 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Firmware and PigKnob Message-ID: I've been thinking of pulling the trigger on a K-Pod, but in retrospect what I really need most is a way to move the marker and simulate a knob press remotelyon the P3. The ability to control the radio this way without having to move my hands away from the keyboard would be a wonderful tool for Search and Pounce contesting. Given the way the K-Pod connects directly into the innards of the K3, it appears that implementing a way to pass commands to the P3 from the K3 might require some major radio firmware changes. I have a PigKnob here that I now use to tune the radio. It connects directly to the RS232 port going into the P3. It occurred to me that it might be possible to use the PigKnob to control the P3. I downloaded and had a look at the P3 command reference and was disappointed to discover there's no command to move the markers. I would sure like to see an enhancement to the P3 firmware that would add a "Marker Up / Marker Down" tuning command. Maybe I'm missing something, though. Does anyone know of a way to make the P3 marker(s) move under software control? 73... Randy, W8FN From rcrgs at verizon.net Wed Jun 15 23:25:28 2016 From: rcrgs at verizon.net (Robert G Strickland) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 03:25:28 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] (K2) distortion on CW receive In-Reply-To: <397ea6b6-fc4b-6dbb-5d40-5ade55b6696d@embarqmail.com> References: <5761D287.4040803@verizon.net> <397ea6b6-fc4b-6dbb-5d40-5ade55b6696d@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <57621C28.3060008@verizon.net> Don... Thanks. With the DSP function OFF, the audio is fine. I forgot that one. Yes, you did a repair and complete alignment several years ago. Excellent work, and I haven't touched anything since then. I don't remember the chart of filter settings, though that is a while back, and who knows... Thanks again. Hope and trust that you and yours are well. ...robert On 06/15/2016 22:56, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Robert, > > Do you have the KDSP2 installed? If so, check the nr and nt settings in > the DSP menu. > If you see a dot before either or both, turn them off and see if the > distortion goes away. Those functions, if used with aggressive settings > will cause distortion. > > The sidetone is fed separately and does not go through the DSP processor. > > If that is not the problem, then you likely have mis-aligned IF > filters. I recall I have worked on your K2 before, and you should have > a chart of the filter settings. I can tell you how to restore the > proper settings via off-list email. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 6/15/2016 6:11 PM, Robert G Strickland wrote: >> #5957 has been on the shelf for a while [2yrs]. When fired up in prep >> for Field Day, the received CW tone is significantly distorted in head >> phones on all bands. The side tone frequency set is very clean as is >> the adjustment for side tone volume. I have no test equipment at this >> time, so it's pretty much menu items and adjustments or send it to >> Don. Suggestions welcome. Thanks. >> >> ...robert > > -- Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY rcrgs at verizon.net.usa Syracuse, New York, USA From jackbrindle at me.com Wed Jun 15 23:50:31 2016 From: jackbrindle at me.com (Jack Brindle) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 20:50:31 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Minimum Drive? In-Reply-To: References: <68CA97B4-3EDF-46A1-85A3-FD6EFCC2AD90@me.com> Message-ID: Fred?s assessment is correct - the output power resolution below 25 watts is pretty low. But it is still putting out power, at least to a point. There _is_ a lower limit to input power - it involves the ability of the frequency counter to do its job. If the counter cannot get an accurate count, it won?t be able to corroborate the frequency for the correct band selection. This level is in the neighborhood of 1 watt, giving you some range to play with. Enjoy playing with your KPA500! Jack, W6FB > On Jun 15, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > > Hmmm ... I guess first question is, what's the problem? 25 W to 20W is slightly less than 1 dB, 0.16 S-unit. Just run barefoot? > > The LED Power display on the KPA500 is digital. It "measures the power," and puts it into one of a number of bins. If something is in the bin, it lights the LED. If the measured power isn't high enough for the lowest bin, all the bins are empty, no LED's light up, although there is still RF being made. > > Measuring power with simple instruments is hard ... well, sort of impossible. You can measure the voltage, but then you need to know the impedance, a complex number, not easily measured with a DVM. You can measure the current -- same problem. KPA500 is designed to emit 500W with 25-30W input. I think you're pushing the envelope here and nothing is wrong. > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > - Northern California Contest Club > - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 > - www.cqp.org > > On 6/15/2016 4:54 PM, James Bennett wrote: >> I share my KPA500 with a K3 and a KX3. When I want to operate JT65 or >> JT9 I normally run about 25 watts out, using the KX3 to drive the >> amp. With the KX3 set to 1.8 watts out, the amp gives me 25; with 2.2 >> watts from the KX3, I get 30 watts out from the amp. >> >> But, what if I want to run 20 watts? Or 15? When I back the KX3 power >> level below 1.8, the KPA500 shows zero on the LED power display. Does >> this mean it is no longer amplifying, or is it actually amplifying >> but not enough for the circuitry to determine how much? >> >> Jim Bennett / W6JHB Folsom, CA > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jackbrindle at me.com From w6jhb at me.com Wed Jun 15 23:55:10 2016 From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 20:55:10 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Minimum Drive? In-Reply-To: References: <68CA97B4-3EDF-46A1-85A3-FD6EFCC2AD90@me.com> Message-ID: <8035B231-9A98-4005-A301-63E96C8F9BC1@me.com> Yes, if I wanted 12 watts (which is the same as 15 for all intents and purposes) I could run barefoot. However, why stress the KX3 by running it as hard as possible, key down, for long digital transmissions like PSK31? I never said there was a problem or that something was wrong. I simply am curious if the designers of the amp who monitor this reflector know what it does with less RF input than what gives an LCD indication of power. That's all. Jim / W6JHB > On Jun 15, 2016, at 19:15, Fred Jensen wrote: > > Hmmm ... I guess first question is, what's the problem? 25 W to 20W is slightly less than 1 dB, 0.16 S-unit. Just run barefoot? > > The LED Power display on the KPA500 is digital. It "measures the power," and puts it into one of a number of bins. If something is in the bin, it lights the LED. If the measured power isn't high enough for the lowest bin, all the bins are empty, no LED's light up, although there is still RF being made. > > Measuring power with simple instruments is hard ... well, sort of impossible. You can measure the voltage, but then you need to know the impedance, a complex number, not easily measured with a DVM. You can measure the current -- same problem. KPA500 is designed to emit 500W with 25-30W input. I think you're pushing the envelope here and nothing is wrong. > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > - Northern California Contest Club > - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 > - www.cqp.org > >> On 6/15/2016 4:54 PM, James Bennett wrote: >> I share my KPA500 with a K3 and a KX3. When I want to operate JT65 or >> JT9 I normally run about 25 watts out, using the KX3 to drive the >> amp. With the KX3 set to 1.8 watts out, the amp gives me 25; with 2.2 >> watts from the KX3, I get 30 watts out from the amp. >> >> But, what if I want to run 20 watts? Or 15? When I back the KX3 power >> level below 1.8, the KPA500 shows zero on the LED power display. Does >> this mean it is no longer amplifying, or is it actually amplifying >> but not enough for the circuitry to determine how much? >> >> Jim Bennett / W6JHB Folsom, CA > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w6jhb at me.com From n6kr at elecraft.com Thu Jun 16 00:30:01 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 21:30:01 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Firmware Suggestions In-Reply-To: <1095602060.3952035.1466032731700.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <8b987126-a452-4026-b950-6d0fb82aa5e4@email.android.com> <1095602060.3952035.1466032731700.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1CE2FCE9-E361-4355-BC77-EB7F07632136@elecraft.com> I'll have new field-test KX2 firmware shortly that allows adjustment of all mic and VOX menu entries in any mode and whether or not a mic is plugged in. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jun 15, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Luke via Elecraft wrote: > Let's try this again! For whatever reason my gmail app on my Android must be formatting something incorrectly. > Thanks to all the Elecraft folks for this fantastic little radio. I'm really enjoying mine! > I do have a couple of potential firmware suggestions: > It would be great if the VOX and MIC BTN settings could be turned ON/OFF without having the MH3 microphone plugged in. Supposing a guy went on a business trip and only intended to run JT65 from his hotel room. If he happened to leave his MH3 at home there would be no way toggle those settings and he'd be out of luck. I understand that you can't use VOX with the internal mic in SSB modes, so maybe at least make it so that they will function when in a DATA mode (DATA A, AFSK, etc.) > Currently you can use the LOCK button to lock out the VFO knob. It would be great if the user could use the KX2 Utility or menu settings to designate what buttons and knobs get locked out when LOCK is activated. Yesterday, on a summit I found that I kept bumping the MIC GAIN knob and changing the value. I wished I could just hit the LOCK button and lock everything out. Something similar to the Yaesu FT-817 (Lock buttons, lock knobs, lock all) would be great. > Thanks again! > Luke AD0KI \ From w0mbt at w0mbt.net Thu Jun 16 00:44:51 2016 From: w0mbt at w0mbt.net (Bruce Nourish) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 04:44:51 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Trade XG3 for XG50 + cash? Message-ID: Hi folks, I bought an XG3 a while ago, but I no longer need most of its functionality. All I expect to need in the future is an XG50 for extended-temp calibration of the KX2/3. If anyone would like to trade an XG50 + $80 for an XG3 with a USB cable, in perfect condition, let me know. Brice From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Thu Jun 16 01:00:13 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (Joe Stone (KF5WBO)) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 22:00:13 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Firmware and PigKnob In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1466053213684-7618914.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi Randy, I've been thinking of pulling the trigger on a K-Pod, but in retrospect what I really need most is a way to move the marker and simulate a knob press remotely on the P3. [js] This is exactly what I?m after ... only with the PX3. Of course, if you can control the PX3 / P3 markers using a K-Pod, you should also be able to control the KX3 / K3 VFO?s via the PX3 / P3. [js] I don't know if Elecraft has plans to control the P3 using the K-Pod via the K3. I have a PigKnob here that I now use to tune the radio. It connects directly to the RS232 port going into the P3. It occurred to me that it might be possible to use the PigKnob to control the P3. I downloaded and had a look at the P3 command reference and was disappointed to discover there's no command to move the markers. I would sure like to see an enhancement to the P3 firmware that would add a "Marker Up / MarkerDown" tuning command. Maybe I'm missing something, though. Does anyone know of a way to make the P3 marker(s) move under software control? [js] You can make the PX3 / P3 markers move under software control using the #MFA and #MFB commands, however, the controller must be ?stateful? (e.g., PC, tablet, smartphone, adjunct electronics, ?). In order to move the PX3 / P3 markers using a "stateless" macro, you?re absolutely correct with respect to the need for new relative (up / down) marker frequency remote control commands (i.e., #DNA/#DNB and #UPA/#UPB). I also have an alternate proposal to modify the existing #MFA and #MFB command syntax. [js] I?ve written this up, however, I haven?t shared it with Elecraft because I already have a rather lengthy PX3 wish list (e.g., I rather have them focus on integrating the K-Pod with the PX3 / P3), http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/PX3%20Wish%20List%20-%20Relative%20Frequency%20Commands.pdf [js] I have a proposal to integrate the K-Pod with the PX3 as a HID (Human Interface Device), building on the existing keyboard HID support. This approach greatly simplifies the K-Pod firmware. This HID-based approach will also work with the P3. Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-Firmware-and-PigKnob-tp7618908p7618914.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From g8kbvdave at googlemail.com Thu Jun 16 06:13:07 2016 From: g8kbvdave at googlemail.com (Dave B) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 11:13:07 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 146, Issue 22 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57627BB3.5080503@googlemail.com> You best ask this question on one of the Fldigi lists. Winfldigi (if you're using Windows) or LinuxHam if you're on a Mac or other non-windows system. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/win-fldigi/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/linuxham/ They will need to know the exact interface hardware and how you've connected it all together. 73 Dave G0WBX. ~~~ On 16/06/16 01:21, elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net wrote: > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:05:20 -0700 > From: James Bennett > To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 / FLDIGI Question > Message-ID:<15A7C4DF-0E7B-4CCC-B309-974E65CC53EA at me.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Got a strange thing happening with my KX3 when I am running FLDIGI, and it just started happening in the past few days. FLDIGI is version 3.22.01. > > If I place FLDIGI into transmit mode the KX3 follows and whatever I type is transmitted - cool. However, when I tell FLDIGI to stop transmitting and go back to receive, FLDIGI quits sending audio as it has been instructed and ?appears? to go back to receive mode, but the KX3 TX light stays on and I have to press the XMIT button to make it go receive. Not cool. > > Furthermore, if I am using WSJT-X, T/R works fine. > > Running the KX3 in CW mode works fine - I press and release the key, the rig transmits and then goes back to receive. This obviously has something to do with FLDIGI. But I?m starting here with the Elecraft group in hopes someone has a suggestion. > > Any idea what I need to change to make the KX3 obey the FLDIGI command to return to receive mode? From wb5xx at suddenlink.net Thu Jun 16 11:02:32 2016 From: wb5xx at suddenlink.net (wb5xx at suddenlink.net) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 10:02:32 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] FOR SALE:Remote Station Message-ID: <4DA36C4841B74BE58FE011385A70F30D@SonyLaptop> I am selling my K3-F and K3/0 Mini ?F with RemoteRig 1258MK II set.All working as a remote station.All cables and much more.Just email me for all details.To much to list here.Please don?t waste my time unless you?re a potential buyer.My email address is good on QRZ. Thanks George wb5xx From w0mbt at w0mbt.net Thu Jun 16 11:23:17 2016 From: w0mbt at w0mbt.net (Bruce Nourish) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 15:23:17 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Trade XG3 for XG50 + cash? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sold! On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 9:44 PM Bruce Nourish wrote: > Hi folks, > > I bought an XG3 a while ago, but I no longer need most of its > functionality. All I expect to need in the future is an XG50 for > extended-temp calibration of the KX2/3. If anyone would like to trade an > XG50 + $80 for an XG3 with a USB cable, in perfect condition, let me know. > > Brice > From eric at elecraft.com Thu Jun 16 18:37:29 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 15:37:29 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K-pod In-Reply-To: <1466033470399-7618896.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <59e9dab5-723c-e7ac-9972-d503e0f76523@nycap.rr.com> <1466000141405-7618871.post@n2.nabble.com> <1466033470399-7618896.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Hi Joe, I apologize, but we are totally booked on other projects and do not see that happening in the near future. 73, Eric /elecraft.com/ On 6/15/2016 4:31 PM, Joe Stone (KF5WBO) wrote: > I see Elecraft just removed the "June 15, 2016" date from the K-Pod page, > > http://www.elecraft.com/k-pod/k-pod.htm > > and updated the shipping status page to reflect "June 28, 2016", > > http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm > > I'm still interested in knowing when the K-Pod will support the KX3 (via the > PX3). :-) > > Joe Stone > KF5WBO > > From ac9gkx at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 18:59:13 2016 From: ac9gkx at gmail.com (Steven Stuckey) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 18:59:13 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Henry 2kd & K3s In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Has anyone used a Henry 2kd amplifier with an Elecraft K3s? Is the Keying voltage anything to be concerned about while using a K3s? Thanks in advance. 73 Steve AC9GK From donwilh at embarqmail.com Thu Jun 16 19:36:15 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 19:36:15 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Henry 2kd & K3s In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <87b0c71d-5d7a-4d37-ae84-1926a607d56a@embarqmail.com> Steve, I have no idea what the PTT specs for the Henry 2kd might be, but you can measure it with your DMM. The K3S can handle up to +200 volts at 5 amps. With nothing connected to the PTT In on your amplifier, measure the voltage. If it is positive, and is less than 200 volts, then all is well for step 1. If the voltage is negative, then it will not work with the K3S without modification to the amplifier. If the above tests go well, then set your DMM to measure current. Put one lead on the center of the amps PTT jack and the other on the shell (the amp should go into transmit). If the current is less than 5 amperes, then the K3s output keying device can handle it. Both conditions must be met - voltage less than 200 volts positive and current less than 5 amperes. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/16/2016 6:59 PM, Steven Stuckey wrote: > Has anyone used a Henry 2kd amplifier with an Elecraft K3s? Is the Keying > voltage anything to be concerned about while using a K3s? Thanks in > advance. > From kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com Thu Jun 16 20:27:27 2016 From: kf5wbo at wickedbeernut.com (Joe Stone (KF5WBO)) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 17:27:27 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K-pod In-Reply-To: References: <59e9dab5-723c-e7ac-9972-d503e0f76523@nycap.rr.com> <1466000141405-7618871.post@n2.nabble.com> <1466033470399-7618896.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1466123247348-7618921.post@n2.nabble.com> No need to apologize, Eric. I'll just need to be content with my "tricked out" Griffin PowerMate, http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/PX3%20USB%20Knob.jpg I know you're familiar with the PowerMate. ;-) Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K-pod-tp7618867p7618921.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From w2lj at verizon.net Thu Jun 16 20:42:50 2016 From: w2lj at verizon.net (Larry W2LJ) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 20:42:50 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] 2016 NJQRP Skeeter Hunt Message-ID: <4409c087a6652742a6d1e83306b60dee@192.168.1.3> This coming Monday, June 20th is the First Day of Summer. And, as we have done for the last 4 years, the NJQRP Club will celebrate by issuing Skeeter numbers for the 5th Annual NJQRP Skeeter Hunt, which will take place this year on the third Sunday of August, 8/21. For 2016, the Skeeter Hunt is incorporating NPOTA, the ARRL's National Parks on the Air program. An additional 100 Bonus points will be added to your score if you activate one of the listed 481 National Park entities. https://npota.arrl.org NPOTA fits right in with the express purpose of the Skeeter Hunt, which is to get you and your QRP equipment out into the fresh air and sunshine (hopefully) in order to have one heckuva a great time! To register for a Skeeter number, simply send an e-mail to w2lj at arrl.net or w2ljqrp at gmail.com - please state your name, call and from which state or NPOTA entity yoiu will activate. If you want to activate an entity; and are not sure which one, you can always decide that later. But for the purposes of issung a Skeeter number, please list your state as a minimum, in your request. Please note that Skeeter numbers are issued on a first come, first served basis. Numbers will begin to be issued on Monday and a copy of the roster will be posted to Google sheets. The link will be posted Monday evening. The NPOTA program has been a huge success so far! QRPers are know for getting out into the field and operating portable. Let's see how many NPOTA entities we can "light up" on Sunday, August 21st! 72 de Larry W2LJ NJQRP Skeeter Hunt Manager From haarsager at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 21:19:23 2016 From: haarsager at gmail.com (Dennis L. Haarsager) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 21:19:23 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD3 thumb screw Message-ID: Got my KX2 today, SN 314. Pretty sweet! But, unfortunately, the KXPD2 is back ordered. I already have a KXPD3 with the older "pointy" thumb screw. Has anyone had luck just grinding the point down? 73, Dennis, N7DH/1 -- Mail: PO Box 192, Kittery Point, ME 03905-0192 +1 207-703-2472 (home) +1 202-431-1556 (mobile) +1 866-587-3403 (fax) From n7cqr at arrl.net Thu Jun 16 21:23:37 2016 From: n7cqr at arrl.net (Dan Presley) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 18:23:37 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX 2 cheat sheet? Message-ID: <0C1E7933-6560-4D32-BAE7-AA1E07D1AD45@arrl.net> I know it's new, but has anyone had a chance to work up a little 'cheat sheet' for the KX 2? Thanks-love this rig. Dan Presley N7CQR n7cqr at arrl.net From haarsager at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 21:28:17 2016 From: haarsager at gmail.com (Dennis L. Haarsager) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 21:28:17 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 bands Message-ID: If someone has left this thought, I missed it... For portable operation with decent size antennas, often at high elevations, I'd find 6 meters much more valuable than 75/80. If Elecraft came out with a KX2a with that configuration instead of 80-10, I'd buy another one. Or even 40-2. 73, Dennis, N7DH/1 -- Mail: PO Box 192, Kittery Point, ME 03905-0192 +1 207-703-2472 (home) +1 202-431-1556 (mobile) +1 866-587-3403 (fax) From mzilmer at roadrunner.com Thu Jun 16 21:38:29 2016 From: mzilmer at roadrunner.com (Matt Zilmer) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 18:38:29 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD3 thumb screw In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6a2f6cf8-8df8-361f-3a35-60f16dcf78b2@roadrunner.com> Hi Dennis, This will work, but you're better off ordering the replacement thumbscrew (E700245). The machining on this thumbscrew replacement meets our specs for the KXPD3 when used with the KX3 and KX2 transceivers. 73! Matt Zilmer KX2 Project Manager On 6/16/2016 6:19 PM, Dennis L. Haarsager wrote: > Got my KX2 today, SN 314. Pretty sweet! But, unfortunately, the KXPD2 is > back ordered. I already have a KXPD3 with the older "pointy" thumb screw. > Has anyone had luck just grinding the point down? > > 73, Dennis, N7DH/1 > -- Always store beer in a dark place. - R. Heinlein From k6dgw at foothill.net Thu Jun 16 22:13:05 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 19:13:05 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] P3 - soft key labels disappeared Message-ID: <2c236b85-6793-23b5-374e-ac563f7041ee@foothill.net> So, before I just go fix this ... I run my K3 both locally and remote to W7RN. Was remote last night in the 0300Z CWT, P3 doesn't work of course in remote, and local tonite the soft-key labels for FN1-FN8 are gone. Tried the usual with no good results. Before I dig out the manual and reassign all the keys once I re-figure out how, any ideas on a quicker solution? 73, Fred K6DGW Sparks NV Washoe County DM09dn From ktalbott at gamewood.net Thu Jun 16 22:23:35 2016 From: ktalbott at gamewood.net (Ken Talbott) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 22:23:35 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD3 thumb screw In-Reply-To: <6a2f6cf8-8df8-361f-3a35-60f16dcf78b2@roadrunner.com> References: <6a2f6cf8-8df8-361f-3a35-60f16dcf78b2@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <011c01d1c83f$40ec5520$c2c4ff60$@gamewood.net> Bench grinder, gloves, and grind away - with caution! Lose your grip and lose your screw! Ken - ke4rg -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Matt Zilmer Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 9:38 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXPD3 thumb screw Hi Dennis, This will work, but you're better off ordering the replacement thumbscrew (E700245). The machining on this thumbscrew replacement meets our specs for the KXPD3 when used with the KX3 and KX2 transceivers. 73! Matt Zilmer KX2 Project Manager On 6/16/2016 6:19 PM, Dennis L. Haarsager wrote: > Got my KX2 today, SN 314. Pretty sweet! But, unfortunately, the > KXPD2 is back ordered. I already have a KXPD3 with the older "pointy" thumb screw. > Has anyone had luck just grinding the point down? > > 73, Dennis, N7DH/1 > -- Always store beer in a dark place. - R. Heinlein ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ktalbott at gamewood.net From wunder at wunderwood.org Fri Jun 17 00:21:29 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 21:21:29 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 bands In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: They already made it. They called it the ?KX3?. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jun 16, 2016, at 6:28 PM, Dennis L. Haarsager wrote: > > If someone has left this thought, I missed it... > > For portable operation with decent size antennas, often at high elevations, > I'd find 6 meters much more valuable than 75/80. If Elecraft came out with > a KX2a with that configuration instead of 80-10, I'd buy another one. Or > even 40-2. > > 73, Dennis, N7DH/1 > > -- > Mail: PO Box 192, Kittery Point, ME 03905-0192 > +1 207-703-2472 (home) > +1 202-431-1556 (mobile) > +1 866-587-3403 (fax) > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From bumbledp at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 04:45:24 2016 From: bumbledp at gmail.com (david perry) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 09:45:24 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 real life power Message-ID: Im wondering what KX2 users are finding to be the output power when on internal battery. I ask because I am using a friends KX3 at the moment and whilst on external power it gives full spec, on internals the power drops to 3 or 4 watts out. Is the KX2 better than this or is that all there is, even on the new rig? David G4YVM From k2mk at comcast.net Fri Jun 17 05:32:18 2016 From: k2mk at comcast.net (Mike K2MK) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 02:32:18 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] P3 - soft key labels disappeared In-Reply-To: <2c236b85-6793-23b5-374e-ac563f7041ee@foothill.net> References: <2c236b85-6793-23b5-374e-ac563f7041ee@foothill.net> Message-ID: <1466155938070-7618930.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi Fred, The bottom right button has two functions. If you press the button you get the menu. If you hold the button the screen expands to a full view less the function key labels. You must have accidentally held the button too long. Hold it again and the F-key labels should reappear. 73, Mike K2MK k6dgw wrote > So, before I just go fix this ... > > I run my K3 both locally and remote to W7RN. Was remote last night in > the 0300Z CWT, P3 doesn't work of course in remote, and local tonite the > soft-key labels for FN1-FN8 are gone. Tried the usual with no good > results. Before I dig out the manual and reassign all the keys once I > re-figure out how, any ideas on a quicker solution? > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-soft-key-labels-disappeared-tp7618927p7618930.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From forzaferrari at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 07:30:53 2016 From: forzaferrari at gmail.com (Chris L) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 06:30:53 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S "HI-RFI" warning a bit too sensitive? Message-ID: I believe the manual states that it takes a watt or two of power at the antenna connector to set off the HI-RFI warning. Imagine my surprise when I began seeing the warning on my brand new K3S just days after I'd assembled it. Almost everyone else who has seen this error has been using a K3 in a contest environment with multiple transmitters, so I was particularly stumped as there are no other transmitters in my shack (everything is boxed) and no active hams in my neighborhood. I did some testing and traced it to a signal coming in on my 6 meter antenna, which when I disconnected it caused the HI-RFI warning to go away. Using a VHF capable SDR in wideband mode, I found a strong FM signal on 49.850 and traced it to... A baby monitor. Yep, not one block from my house lives a couple with a cheap 49MHz baby monitor blasting away on 49.850MHz all hours of the day and night. A short "fox hunt" with a service monitor confirmed this. There is 100KHz worth of splatter coming from this thing and my old Icom 706 shows it as S9 with the attenuator on (and S9 +60 without). I spoke with someone at the house and confirmed that this was the problem by shutting down the device for an hour. Unfortunately, the couple's mother-in-law lives with them and insists on using the baby monitor all day and night. I will continue to press for a diplomatic solution (possibly offering to buy them a newer 800/900MHz unit), but should I fail at that, is this something I should worry about as far as damaging my K3S? I find it hard to believe that a baby monitor is pumping out more than 1 watt, so I'm inclined to believe that the K3S is being a bit overprotective. This plus the fact that my 6 meter antenna is a PAR Omniangle which is omnidirectional and according to PAR has no appreciable gain. I'm tempted to program the K3S to ignore the HI-RFI warning for the time being. Thoughts? Chris KB9SDX From tcrayner at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 07:37:50 2016 From: tcrayner at gmail.com (Tom Crayner) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 07:37:50 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 real life power In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sounds like the batteries are possibly suspect. A KX3 will give out 10W down to 10V according to the firmware release (v2.38), and although I haven't personally run my batteries down that low I haven't seen any behavior to indicate otherwise (in other words I'm getting 10W out, not 3 or 4W as you are seeing). Check and see if you are on that FW release. On the KX2 I am set at 5W out (not the full 10W due to duty cycle of the digital I use) and I am still getting the full 5W out with the battery pack about half depleted (if I believe the amp hours reading). Tom, W2YF On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:45 AM, david perry wrote: > Im wondering what KX2 users are finding to be the output power when on > internal battery. I ask because I am using a friends KX3 at the moment and > whilst on external power it gives full spec, on internals the power drops > to 3 or 4 watts out. Is the KX2 better than this or is that all there is, > even on the new rig? > > David > G4YVM > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to tcrayner at gmail.com > From dave at nk7z.net Fri Jun 17 07:58:53 2016 From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 04:58:53 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S "HI-RFI" warning a bit too sensitive? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1466164733.11264.6.camel@nk7z.net> On Fri, 2016-06-17 at 06:30 -0500, Chris L wrote: > A baby monitor. Yep, not one block from my house lives a couple with a > cheap 49MHz baby monitor blasting away on 49.850MHz all hours of the > day and night. A short "fox hunt" with a service monitor confirmed > this. ?There is 100KHz worth of splatter coming from this thing and my > old Icom 706 shows it as S9 with the attenuator on (and S9 +60 > without). I spoke with someone at the house and confirmed that this > was the problem by shutting down the device for an hour. > Unfortunately, the couple's mother-in-law lives with them and insists > on using the baby monitor all day and night. > Chris > KB9SDX >? Chris, Make sure they know that the baby monitor is transmitting every word they say, (assuming it does). ?That will more than likely change their minds. --? 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net From daleputnam at hotmail.com Fri Jun 17 08:14:25 2016 From: daleputnam at hotmail.com (Dale Putnam) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 12:14:25 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S "HI-RFI" warning a bit too sensitive? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I certainly hope they NEVER speak their credit card numbers.. their plans for the weekend, vacation, trips away from the house, bank accounts, security questions, or pretty much anything else. In today's world with so much concern about identity theft, credit card information... listening in, like they are providing, would provide enough information to very easily swipe an ID or two.. or three.. apply for credit cards, buy a car, or almost anything else. Wow... the possibilities are endless, and 99% are not good at all. Aside from the simple fact that it is a transmitter, and causes an issue. Good luck getting them to shut it off... IF it is a "security thing" for an elderly.. maybe the explanation of Life Line.. or some similar monitoring system would help... or the purchase of a pair of family service walky talkies, from the box stores, for less than 40 would work better.. that would certainly give the coverage, and only transmit when needed. Have a great day, --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy ________________________________ From: Elecraft on behalf of Chris L Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 5:30 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3S "HI-RFI" warning a bit too sensitive? I believe the manual states that it takes a watt or two of power at the antenna connector to set off the HI-RFI warning. Imagine my surprise when I began seeing the warning on my brand new K3S just days after I'd assembled it. Almost everyone else who has seen this error has been using a K3 in a contest environment with multiple transmitters, so I was particularly stumped as there are no other transmitters in my shack (everything is boxed) and no active hams in my neighborhood. I did some testing and traced it to a signal coming in on my 6 meter antenna, which when I disconnected it caused the HI-RFI warning to go away. Using a VHF capable SDR in wideband mode, I found a strong FM signal on 49.850 and traced it to... A baby monitor. Yep, not one block from my house lives a couple with a cheap 49MHz baby monitor blasting away on 49.850MHz all hours of the day and night. A short "fox hunt" with a service monitor confirmed this. There is 100KHz worth of splatter coming from this thing and my old Icom 706 shows it as S9 with the attenuator on (and S9 +60 without). I spoke with someone at the house and confirmed that this was the problem by shutting down the device for an hour. Unfortunately, the couple's mother-in-law lives with them and insists on using the baby monitor all day and night. I will continue to press for a diplomatic solution (possibly offering to buy them a newer 800/900MHz unit), but should I fail at that, is this something I should worry about as far as damaging my K3S? I find it hard to believe that a baby monitor is pumping out more than 1 watt, so I'm inclined to believe that the K3S is being a bit overprotective. This plus the fact that my 6 meter antenna is a PAR Omniangle which is omnidirectional and according to PAR has no appreciable gain. I'm tempted to program the K3S to ignore the HI-RFI warning for the time being. Thoughts? Chris KB9SDX ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to daleputnam at hotmail.com From jthorpe at liberty.edu Fri Jun 17 09:37:45 2016 From: jthorpe at liberty.edu (Thorpe, Jeffrey) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 13:37:45 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 / KXPD3 "hanging"? Message-ID: I've finally gotten back to working on my morse, practicing with my KX3 with the KXPD3 attached. At first I thought it was just me, as I am just relearning this after 30 years of non-use. (Straight-key back in high-school) I have the KX3 set for text decode, and speed set to 15wpm. Quite often, it seems to "hang" for a fraction of a second (variable time, but at times up to almost a full second). Usually it is with the right paddle (the dah). I can have the paddle pressed, but I don't get the dah right away - sometimes. Quite aggravating. I tried bumping the speed up as a test, with the same problem still occurring. I figure this could be a contact problem, but thought I'd ask first before doing any kind of disassembly, to see if there was some other known issue (maybe with firmware) first. I have the latest firmware installed. The KXPD3 is about one year old, and I have just now started using it. Jeff - KG7HDZ From kengkopp at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 11:00:06 2016 From: kengkopp at gmail.com (Ken G Kopp) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 09:00:06 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S "HI-RFI" warning a bit too sensitive? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Perhaps a coax stub cut for the 49 MHZ frequency and "T'd" off the connector used by your 6M antenna could provide enough attenuation to alleviate the problem. 73 K0PP I believe the manual states that it takes a watt or two of power at the antenna connector to set off the HI-RFI warning. Imagine my surprise when I began seeing the warning on my brand new K3S just days after I'd assembled it. Almost everyone else who has seen this error has been using a K3 in a contest environment with multiple transmitters, so I was particularly stumped as there are no other transmitters in my shack (everything is boxed) and no active hams in my neighborhood. I did some testing and traced it to a signal coming in on my 6 meter antenna, which when I disconnected it caused the HI-RFI warning to go away. Using a VHF capable SDR in wideband mode, I found a strong FM signal on 49.850 and traced it to... A baby monitor. Yep, not one block from my house lives a couple with a cheap 49MHz baby monitor blasting away on 49.850MHz all hours of the day and night. A short "fox hunt" with a service monitor confirmed this. There is 100KHz worth of splatter coming from this thing and my old Icom 706 shows it as S9 with the attenuator on (and S9 +60 without). I spoke with someone at the house and confirmed that this was the problem by shutting down the device for an hour. Unfortunately, the couple's mother-in-law lives with them and insists on using the baby monitor all day and night. I will continue to press for a diplomatic solution (possibly offering to buy them a newer 800/900MHz unit), but should I fail at that, is this something I should worry about as far as damaging my K3S? I find it hard to believe that a baby monitor is pumping out more than 1 watt, so I'm inclined to believe that the K3S is being a bit overprotective. This plus the fact that my 6 meter antenna is a PAR Omniangle which is omnidirectional and according to PAR has no appreciable gain. I'm tempted to program the K3S to ignore the HI-RFI warning for the time being. Thoughts? Chris KB9SDX ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to kengkopp at gmail.com From dbox at eagle1llc.com Fri Jun 17 11:20:00 2016 From: dbox at eagle1llc.com (David Box) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 10:20:00 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 / KXPD3 "hanging"? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8ee8eab8-ea92-5874-a03f-e95b766d824f@eagle1llc.com> From lists at subich.com Fri Jun 17 11:23:31 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 11:23:31 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S "HI-RFI" warning a bit too sensitive? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <220d9780-f098-90d6-68e4-0360c05b5427@subich.com> > Using a VHF capable SDR in wideband mode, I found a strong FM signal > on 49.850 and traced it to... The SDR should be capable of providing a calibrated (dBm) signal strength. With that information and the distance from the target it should be relatively simple to calculate the ERP of the baby monitor. Given that you report the "HI-RFI" indicator is being activated on the K3S, I would suspect the baby monitor is producing an illegal ERP - whether it is out of spec accidentally (manufacturing) or has been tampered with by the owner is not an issue. I would generate a letter of complaint to the FCC (with calculated ERP data) indicating that you believe the baby monitor is not in compliance with regulations and must cease. Send a copy to the owners of the baby monitor a week before mailing the complaint to the Commission. 73, ... Joe, W4TV > I believe the manual states that it takes a watt or two of power at the > antenna connector to set off the HI-RFI warning. Imagine my surprise when I > began seeing the warning on my brand new K3S just days after I'd assembled > it. Almost everyone else who has seen this error has been using a K3 in a > contest environment with multiple transmitters, so I was particularly > stumped as there are no other transmitters in my shack (everything is > boxed) and no active hams in my neighborhood. I did some testing and traced > it to a signal coming in on my 6 meter antenna, which when I disconnected > it caused the HI-RFI warning to go away. Using a VHF capable SDR in > wideband mode, I found a strong FM signal on 49.850 and traced it to... > > A baby monitor. Yep, not one block from my house lives a couple with a > cheap 49MHz baby monitor blasting away on 49.850MHz all hours of the day > and night. A short "fox hunt" with a service monitor confirmed this. There > is 100KHz worth of splatter coming from this thing and my old Icom 706 > shows it as S9 with the attenuator on (and S9 +60 without). I spoke with > someone at the house and confirmed that this was the problem by shutting > down the device for an hour. Unfortunately, the couple's mother-in-law > lives with them and insists on using the baby monitor all day and night. > > I will continue to press for a diplomatic solution (possibly offering to > buy them a newer 800/900MHz unit), but should I fail at that, is this > something I should worry about as far as damaging my K3S? I find it hard to > believe that a baby monitor is pumping out more than 1 watt, so I'm > inclined to believe that the K3S is being a bit overprotective. This plus > the fact that my 6 meter antenna is a PAR Omniangle which is > omnidirectional and according to PAR has no appreciable gain. I'm tempted > to program the K3S to ignore the HI-RFI warning for the time being. > Thoughts? > > Chris > KB9SDX > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From va3mw at portcredit.net Fri Jun 17 11:27:52 2016 From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 11:27:52 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S "HI-RFI" warning a bit too sensitive? In-Reply-To: <220d9780-f098-90d6-68e4-0360c05b5427@subich.com> References: <220d9780-f098-90d6-68e4-0360c05b5427@subich.com> Message-ID: I had this problem once. Next time I showed up with a recording of everything they said over dinner and told them I recordered it over a block away. That got it fixed. In another case, with 49Mhz headphones, I just bought them a new 900mhz pair and gave it to them if they gave me their old ones. Sometimes it is just cheaper. Mike va3mw On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > > Using a VHF capable SDR in wideband mode, I found a strong FM signal >> on 49.850 and traced it to... >> > > The SDR should be capable of providing a calibrated (dBm) signal > strength. With that information and the distance from the target > it should be relatively simple to calculate the ERP of the baby > monitor. > > Given that you report the "HI-RFI" indicator is being activated on the > K3S, I would suspect the baby monitor is producing an illegal ERP - > whether it is out of spec accidentally (manufacturing) or has been > tampered with by the owner is not an issue. I would generate a letter > of complaint to the FCC (with calculated ERP data) indicating that you > believe the baby monitor is not in compliance with regulations and must > cease. Send a copy to the owners of the baby monitor a week before > mailing the complaint to the Commission. > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > > > I believe the manual states that it takes a watt or two of power at the >> antenna connector to set off the HI-RFI warning. Imagine my surprise when >> I >> began seeing the warning on my brand new K3S just days after I'd assembled >> it. Almost everyone else who has seen this error has been using a K3 in a >> contest environment with multiple transmitters, so I was particularly >> stumped as there are no other transmitters in my shack (everything is >> boxed) and no active hams in my neighborhood. I did some testing and >> traced >> it to a signal coming in on my 6 meter antenna, which when I disconnected >> it caused the HI-RFI warning to go away. Using a VHF capable SDR in >> wideband mode, I found a strong FM signal on 49.850 and traced it to... >> >> A baby monitor. Yep, not one block from my house lives a couple with a >> cheap 49MHz baby monitor blasting away on 49.850MHz all hours of the day >> and night. A short "fox hunt" with a service monitor confirmed this. There >> is 100KHz worth of splatter coming from this thing and my old Icom 706 >> shows it as S9 with the attenuator on (and S9 +60 without). I spoke with >> someone at the house and confirmed that this was the problem by shutting >> down the device for an hour. Unfortunately, the couple's mother-in-law >> lives with them and insists on using the baby monitor all day and night. >> >> I will continue to press for a diplomatic solution (possibly offering to >> buy them a newer 800/900MHz unit), but should I fail at that, is this >> something I should worry about as far as damaging my K3S? I find it hard >> to >> believe that a baby monitor is pumping out more than 1 watt, so I'm >> inclined to believe that the K3S is being a bit overprotective. This plus >> the fact that my 6 meter antenna is a PAR Omniangle which is >> omnidirectional and according to PAR has no appreciable gain. I'm tempted >> to program the K3S to ignore the HI-RFI warning for the time being. >> Thoughts? >> >> Chris >> KB9SDX >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to va3mw at portcredit.net > From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Fri Jun 17 11:44:13 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 08:44:13 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S "HI-RFI" warning a bit too sensitive? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri,6/17/2016 8:00 AM, Ken G Kopp wrote: > Perhaps a coax stub cut for the 49 MHZ frequency and "T'd" off the > connector used by your 6M antenna could provide enough attenuation to > alleviate the problem. Stubs are not nearly narrow enough to solve this problem. The unit in question is in clear violation of FCC Rules if it interferes with licensed communications, including yours. If it's putting out that much signal, it's clearly in excess of FCC Rules, probably wildly so. A year or two ago, I bought a low power FM TX on amazon that I hoped to use to feed an internet radio RX around my rural home and yard. I quickly rejected it -- it produced a ton of RF trash up and down the band and lots of audible distortion on its TX frequency. As I recall, it was advertised as 1W, and I had a 20 dB pad on the antenna. For at least five years, I've used a legal "trucker's" FM modulator that is in the 10mW range; my goal was to get about 6dB more field strength, and a cleaner signal. W4TV has given you good advice on the route through the FCC, but buying them a decent unit may be the more practical solution. 73, Jim K9YC From helmut.berka at t-online.de Fri Jun 17 12:05:19 2016 From: helmut.berka at t-online.de (Helmut Berka) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 18:05:19 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S "HI-RFI" warning a bit too sensitive? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57641FBF.7020909@t-online.de> Hi Chris, Did you tell her / them how dangerous high power RF is and how negative it affects a baby? vy 73 de Helmut DL2MAJ Am 17/06/16 um 13:30 schrieb Chris L: > I believe the manual states that it takes a watt or two of power at the > antenna connector to set off the HI-RFI warning. Imagine my surprise when I > began seeing the warning on my brand new K3S just days after I'd assembled > it. Almost everyone else who has seen this error has been using a K3 in a > contest environment with multiple transmitters, so I was particularly > stumped as there are no other transmitters in my shack (everything is > boxed) and no active hams in my neighborhood. I did some testing and traced > it to a signal coming in on my 6 meter antenna, which when I disconnected > it caused the HI-RFI warning to go away. Using a VHF capable SDR in > wideband mode, I found a strong FM signal on 49.850 and traced it to... > > A baby monitor. Yep, not one block from my house lives a couple with a > cheap 49MHz baby monitor blasting away on 49.850MHz all hours of the day > and night. A short "fox hunt" with a service monitor confirmed this. There > is 100KHz worth of splatter coming from this thing and my old Icom 706 > shows it as S9 with the attenuator on (and S9 +60 without). I spoke with > someone at the house and confirmed that this was the problem by shutting > down the device for an hour. Unfortunately, the couple's mother-in-law > lives with them and insists on using the baby monitor all day and night. > > I will continue to press for a diplomatic solution (possibly offering to > buy them a newer 800/900MHz unit), but should I fail at that, is this > something I should worry about as far as damaging my K3S? I find it hard to > believe that a baby monitor is pumping out more than 1 watt, so I'm > inclined to believe that the K3S is being a bit overprotective. This plus > the fact that my 6 meter antenna is a PAR Omniangle which is > omnidirectional and according to PAR has no appreciable gain. I'm tempted > to program the K3S to ignore the HI-RFI warning for the time being. > Thoughts? > > Chris > KB9SDX > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to helmut.berka at t-online.de > From w1hyv at arrl.net Fri Jun 17 12:05:20 2016 From: w1hyv at arrl.net (Alan Price) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 16:05:20 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Let me build your K2 Message-ID: You have a new K2 (or any other Elecraft kit) with the options you want. My prices are reasonable. 73 Alan W1HYV From w6jhb at me.com Fri Jun 17 12:09:52 2016 From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 09:09:52 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 / FLDIGI Question In-Reply-To: <15A7C4DF-0E7B-4CCC-B309-974E65CC53EA@me.com> References: <15A7C4DF-0E7B-4CCC-B309-974E65CC53EA@me.com> Message-ID: <607032ED-0FF3-4B67-9A73-78AF86BFB46E@me.com> For those interested?.. Got a suggestion from Ron, W7HD that the rig has to have VOX turned off. I had mine turned on. Turned it off and no longer have the TX hang problem. Yippee!! > On Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016, at Wednesday, 12:05 PM, James Bennett wrote: > > Got a strange thing happening with my KX3 when I am running FLDIGI, and it just started happening in the past few days. FLDIGI is version 3.22.01. > > If I place FLDIGI into transmit mode the KX3 follows and whatever I type is transmitted - cool. However, when I tell FLDIGI to stop transmitting and go back to receive, FLDIGI quits sending audio as it has been instructed and ?appears? to go back to receive mode, but the KX3 TX light stays on and I have to press the XMIT button to make it go receive. Not cool. > > Furthermore, if I am using WSJT-X, T/R works fine. > > Running the KX3 in CW mode works fine - I press and release the key, the rig transmits and then goes back to receive. This obviously has something to do with FLDIGI. But I?m starting here with the Elecraft group in hopes someone has a suggestion. > > Any idea what I need to change to make the KX3 obey the FLDIGI command to return to receive mode? > > Thanks, Jim / W6JHB > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w6jhb at me.com From cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 12:14:27 2016 From: cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com (Jorge Diez - CX6VM) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 13:14:27 -0300 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 / FLDIGI Question In-Reply-To: <607032ED-0FF3-4B67-9A73-78AF86BFB46E@me.com> References: <15A7C4DF-0E7B-4CCC-B309-974E65CC53EA@me.com> <607032ED-0FF3-4B67-9A73-78AF86BFB46E@me.com> Message-ID: wait for coming version of SWISSLOG software http://www.informatix.li/ , will have important support for FLDIGI, MultiPsk, Cw Skimmer and OmniRig 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W 2016-06-17 13:09 GMT-03:00 James Bennett : > For those interested?.. > > Got a suggestion from Ron, W7HD that the rig has to have VOX turned off. I > had mine turned on. Turned it off and no longer have the TX hang problem. > Yippee!! > > > > On Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016, at Wednesday, 12:05 PM, James Bennett < > w6jhb at me.com> wrote: > > > > Got a strange thing happening with my KX3 when I am running FLDIGI, and > it just started happening in the past few days. FLDIGI is version 3.22.01. > > > > If I place FLDIGI into transmit mode the KX3 follows and whatever I type > is transmitted - cool. However, when I tell FLDIGI to stop transmitting and > go back to receive, FLDIGI quits sending audio as it has been instructed > and ?appears? to go back to receive mode, but the KX3 TX light stays on and > I have to press the XMIT button to make it go receive. Not cool. > > > > Furthermore, if I am using WSJT-X, T/R works fine. > > > > Running the KX3 in CW mode works fine - I press and release the key, the > rig transmits and then goes back to receive. This obviously has something > to do with FLDIGI. But I?m starting here with the Elecraft group in hopes > someone has a suggestion. > > > > Any idea what I need to change to make the KX3 obey the FLDIGI command > to return to receive mode? > > > > Thanks, Jim / W6JHB > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to w6jhb at me.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com -- 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W From kf5wbs at yahoo.com Fri Jun 17 13:04:42 2016 From: kf5wbs at yahoo.com (thomas branton) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 17:04:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] K3/100 for sale References: <1438065673.5072018.1466183082472.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1438065673.5072018.1466183082472.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I have my? K3/100 (serial number 61--) with KAT3; KXV3A; KBPF3; KFLA-400; KFLA-1.8; KFLA-2.8; KFLA-6; and KSYN3A for sale. It has been my backup rig and has seen little use. It has all the updates and has the new KSYN3A board installed. It is in mint shape and never seen cigarette smoke. I want $2300.00 plus shipping continental USA from 75964. E-mail me if interested. Thanks,?Tom KF5WBS? From eric at elecraft.com Fri Jun 17 13:22:58 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 10:22:58 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Shipping Status Message-ID: <02f9ed5d-ceb8-ba39-05ca-344022ca92ae@elecraft.com> Current KX2 shipping Status: Ordered through 5/27: Ships 6/17-6/21 Ordered 5/28-29: Ships 6/21-6/22 Ordered 5/30-6/1: Ships 6/22-6/23 Ordered 6/2-6/3: Ships 6/23-24 Ordered 6/4-6/5: Ships 6/24-27 For the latest KX2 shipping status, the best place to go is our shipping status page at: http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm Please note that due to the overwhelming success of the KX2, we are receiving a huge number of emails and calls each day. If possible, please resist the urge to email for status and read our status page. That will help us focus on processing new orders for shipment quickly :-) For fastest response to shipping issues, please email sales at elecraft.com directly, or call us at 831-763-4211 (add +1 in Eu). For tech support use support at elecraft.com (k3support at ..., kx3support at ... and support at ... all go to the support at elecraft.com mailbox, which is read by all of our support engineers.) On emails we may be delayed a business day in replying. (We also have a large email load on Mondays from the accumulated weekend emails.) Also remember that we are time shifted a day from Eu. 73, Eric /elecraft.com/ From ppauly at gmail.com Fri Jun 17 13:36:36 2016 From: ppauly at gmail.com (Peter Pauly) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 13:36:36 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Shipping Status In-Reply-To: <02f9ed5d-ceb8-ba39-05ca-344022ca92ae@elecraft.com> References: <02f9ed5d-ceb8-ba39-05ca-344022ca92ae@elecraft.com> Message-ID: I ordered a KXPA100 amp four days ago and the status was in stock. It hasn't shipped yet and I'm hoping to get it before Field Day, but I am assuming that the popularity of the KX2 is indirectly affecting all of the product lines. If I lived in CA, I would offer to come over and help. On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft < eric at elecraft.com> wrote: > Current KX2 shipping Status: > Ordered through 5/27: Ships 6/17-6/21 > Ordered 5/28-29: Ships 6/21-6/22 > Ordered 5/30-6/1: Ships 6/22-6/23 > Ordered 6/2-6/3: Ships 6/23-24 > Ordered 6/4-6/5: Ships 6/24-27 > > For the latest KX2 shipping status, the best place to go is our shipping > status page at: > http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm > > Please note that due to the overwhelming success of the KX2, we are > receiving a huge number of emails and calls each day. If possible, please > resist the urge to email for status and read our status page. That will > help us focus on processing new orders for shipment quickly :-) > > For fastest response to shipping issues, please email sales at elecraft.com > directly, or call us at 831-763-4211 (add +1 in Eu). For tech support > use support at elecraft.com (k3support at ..., kx3support at ... and support at ... > all go to the support at elecraft.com mailbox, which is read by all of our > support engineers.) > > On emails we may be delayed a business day in replying. (We also have a > large email load on Mondays from the accumulated weekend emails.) Also > remember that we are time shifted a day from Eu. > > 73, > Eric > /elecraft.com/ > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ppauly at gmail.com > From n6kr at elecraft.com Fri Jun 17 13:58:02 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 10:58:02 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 real life power In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The KX2 will put out a full 10 watts on most bands when running from 11-14 V. In real life :) The internal battery, when fully charged, starts out at 12 V but quickly settles to around 11 V. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jun 17, 2016, at 4:37 AM, Tom Crayner wrote: > Sounds like the batteries are possibly suspect. > > A KX3 will give out 10W down to 10V according to the firmware release > (v2.38), and although I haven't personally run my batteries down that low I > haven't seen any behavior to indicate otherwise (in other words I'm getting > 10W out, not 3 or 4W as you are seeing). Check and see if you are on that > FW release. > > On the KX2 I am set at 5W out (not the full 10W due to duty cycle of the > digital I use) and I am still getting the full 5W out with the battery pack > about half depleted (if I believe the amp hours reading). > > Tom, W2YF > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:45 AM, david perry wrote: > >> Im wondering what KX2 users are finding to be the output power when on >> internal battery. I ask because I am using a friends KX3 at the moment and >> whilst on external power it gives full spec, on internals the power drops >> to 3 or 4 watts out. Is the KX2 better than this or is that all there is, >> even on the new rig? >> >> David >> G4YVM >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to tcrayner at gmail.com >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From ron at cobi.biz Fri Jun 17 14:09:48 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 11:09:48 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD3 thumb screw In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002f01d1c8c3$700ad0f0$502072d0$@biz> Doing some testing with only the KXPD3 paddles available, I just left the longer screw out. One screw holds the paddles securely in place. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dennis L. Haarsager Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 6:19 PM To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD3 thumb screw Got my KX2 today, SN 314. Pretty sweet! But, unfortunately, the KXPD2 is back ordered. I already have a KXPD3 with the older "pointy" thumb screw. Has anyone had luck just grinding the point down? 73, Dennis, N7DH/1 -- Mail: PO Box 192, Kittery Point, ME 03905-0192 +1 207-703-2472 (home) +1 202-431-1556 (mobile) +1 866-587-3403 (fax) ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From wunder at wunderwood.org Fri Jun 17 14:11:45 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 11:11:45 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Shipping Status In-Reply-To: References: <02f9ed5d-ceb8-ba39-05ca-344022ca92ae@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <56277F11-8C14-4FBC-A725-769FFE8B8718@wunderwood.org> I ordered a KXPA100 kit on 6/2 and it was shipped on 6/8. That was after the KX2 announcement. I would expect that a fair number of people are ordering a KXPA100 with their KX2. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jun 17, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Peter Pauly wrote: > > I ordered a KXPA100 amp four days ago and the status was in stock. It > hasn't shipped yet and I'm hoping to get it before Field Day, but I am > assuming that the popularity of the KX2 is indirectly affecting all of the > product lines. If I lived in CA, I would offer to come over and help. > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft < > eric at elecraft.com> wrote: > >> Current KX2 shipping Status: >> Ordered through 5/27: Ships 6/17-6/21 >> Ordered 5/28-29: Ships 6/21-6/22 >> Ordered 5/30-6/1: Ships 6/22-6/23 >> Ordered 6/2-6/3: Ships 6/23-24 >> Ordered 6/4-6/5: Ships 6/24-27 >> >> For the latest KX2 shipping status, the best place to go is our shipping >> status page at: >> http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm >> >> Please note that due to the overwhelming success of the KX2, we are >> receiving a huge number of emails and calls each day. If possible, please >> resist the urge to email for status and read our status page. That will >> help us focus on processing new orders for shipment quickly :-) >> >> For fastest response to shipping issues, please email sales at elecraft.com >> directly, or call us at 831-763-4211 (add +1 in Eu). For tech support >> use support at elecraft.com (k3support at ..., kx3support at ... and support at ... >> all go to the support at elecraft.com mailbox, which is read by all of our >> support engineers.) >> >> On emails we may be delayed a business day in replying. (We also have a >> large email load on Mondays from the accumulated weekend emails.) Also >> remember that we are time shifted a day from Eu. >> >> 73, >> Eric >> /elecraft.com/ >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ppauly at gmail.com >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From w8fn at tx.rr.com Fri Jun 17 14:37:04 2016 From: w8fn at tx.rr.com (Randy Farmer) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 13:37:04 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod modification for K3S Message-ID: <08ef8df2-b132-7c72-8411-d3e05316fc68@tx.rr.com> As it happens, I will soon have my K3s under the knife to replace a faulty PA module. It occurred to me that this would also be a good opportunity to perform the internal modification to power the K-Pod via the data cable. The web page says information on the modification "will be posted here before product ship", but so far I haven't seen it. Has anyone seen this information, and if so, could you please post a link to it? 73... Randy, W8FN From jthorpe at liberty.edu Fri Jun 17 15:25:53 2016 From: jthorpe at liberty.edu (Thorpe, Jeffrey) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 19:25:53 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 / KXPD3 "hanging"? In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Got a few responses. Turns out it was the grounding problem. Did the mod with some thin speaker wire and works well now. Jeff - KG7HDZ > On Jun 17, 2016, at 6:39 AM, Thorpe, Jeffrey wrote: > > I've finally gotten back to working on my morse, practicing with my KX3 with the KXPD3 attached. At first I thought it was just me, as I am just relearning this after 30 years of non-use. (Straight-key back in high-school) > > I have the KX3 set for text decode, and speed set to 15wpm. Quite often, it seems to "hang" for a fraction of a second (variable time, but at times up to almost a full second). Usually it is with the right paddle (the dah). I can have the paddle pressed, but I don't get the dah right away - sometimes. Quite aggravating. I tried bumping the speed up as a test, with the same problem still occurring. > > I figure this could be a contact problem, but thought I'd ask first before doing any kind of disassembly, to see if there was some other known issue (maybe with firmware) first. I have the latest firmware installed. The KXPD3 is about one year old, and I have just now started using it. > > Jeff - KG7HDZ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jthorpe at liberty.edu From mike at ve3yf.com Fri Jun 17 20:10:03 2016 From: mike at ve3yf.com (Mike VE3YF) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 00:10:03 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] P3/TX Mon Coupler Switching Idea Message-ID: I am thinking of getting a 2nd DCHF Coupler for my P3 TX Monitor Setup. This way I could Monitor 2 Outputs from the same P3. Currently I have a coupler right after my main linear via Ant 1 on the K3, but want to add a second coupler to the output of the KPA500 via Ant 2 on the K3. I then could switch between the outputs and use the same P3. I realize I can only use 1 coupler at a time, but changing cables etc out all the time would be a pain. Does anyone know of a switch that could handle this job. I have done a search on the internet and eBay and found nothing that would mate up to a RJ8 Connector which the TX Monitor and Couplers use. If any one is doing what I am contemplating I would like to hear from you. Tnx. 73 De Mike VE3YF http://www.ve3yf.com [http://www.ve3yf.com/] From n1al at sonic.net Fri Jun 17 23:30:00 2016 From: n1al at sonic.net (Alan Bloom) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 20:30:00 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] P3/TX Mon Coupler Switching Idea In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5764C038.9000601@sonic.net> > I am thinking of getting a 2nd DCHF Coupler for my P3 TX Monitor > Setup. This way I could Monitor 2 Outputs from the same P3. ... > Does anyone know of a switch that could handle this job. Here's the one I use. It allows switching up to four 8P8C (RJ-45) connectors. $10 from Amazon: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AUB3SSA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Alan N1AL From ebasilier at cox.net Sat Jun 18 04:18:54 2016 From: ebasilier at cox.net (Erik Basilier) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 01:18:54 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 S-meter segment stuck Message-ID: <015301d1c93a$0db95170$292bf450$@cox.net> Hi All, Today I have the S-5 segment stuck on my KX3 display. That is also the SWR 2 segment. What I mean is the segment is black with no receive signal, while the segments to the left of it are not black, and there is no transmission going on. Reloading the firmware didn't help. Any ideas? Thanks, Erik K7TV From egrimseid at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 04:47:01 2016 From: egrimseid at gmail.com (Erlend Grimseid) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 10:47:01 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 S-meter segment stuck In-Reply-To: <015301d1c93a$0db95170$292bf450$@cox.net> References: <015301d1c93a$0db95170$292bf450$@cox.net> Message-ID: Might it be the RF gain setting? 73 LA4TTA Erlend 2016-06-18 10:18 GMT+02:00 Erik Basilier : > Hi All, > > > > Today I have the S-5 segment stuck on my KX3 display. That is also the SWR > 2 > segment. What I mean is the segment is black with no receive signal, while > the segments to the left of it are not black, and there is no transmission > going on. Reloading the firmware didn't help. Any ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > Erik K7TV > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to egrimseid at gmail.com > From mike at ve3yf.com Sat Jun 18 05:36:02 2016 From: mike at ve3yf.com (Mike VE3YF) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 09:36:02 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] P3/TX Mon Coupler Switching Idea Message-ID: Hi Alan: Tnx for the info, good to see someone else has done it. Question though, does the Coupler cable use RJ45 connectors, reason I ask I see on the Elecraft site it says RJ8, and I am not finding too much info on the Internet ref RJ8 Connectors. Perhaps I am reading too much into it. 73 De Mike VE3YF http://www.ve3yf.com [http://www.ve3yf.com/] From ebasilier at cox.net Sat Jun 18 05:39:17 2016 From: ebasilier at cox.net (Erik Basilier) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 02:39:17 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 S-meter segment stuck In-Reply-To: <88L51t00P45oxQM018L6AJ> References: <88L51t00P45oxQM018L6AJ> Message-ID: <016001d1c945$48869140$d993b3c0$@cox.net> Problem solved, thanks to Erlend LA4TTA. I had no idea that the segment turned on is an indication of RF gain setting. 73, Erik K7TV -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Erik Basilier Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 1:19 AM To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 S-meter segment stuck Hi All, Today I have the S-5 segment stuck on my KX3 display. That is also the SWR 2 segment. What I mean is the segment is black with no receive signal, while the segments to the left of it are not black, and there is no transmission going on. Reloading the firmware didn't help. Any ideas? Thanks, Erik K7TV ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ebasilier at cox.net From gregory.cote at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 07:02:04 2016 From: gregory.cote at gmail.com (Gregory Cote) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 07:02:04 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 S-meter segment stuck (Greg Cote) Message-ID: I recently noticed that I also have a stuck segment on my KX3 S-Meter. However, mine is the S-9 segment. 73 Greg, WY1X On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 5:36 AM, wrote: > Send Elecraft mailing list submissions to > elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > elecraft-owner at mailman.qth.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Elecraft digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: KX2 real life power (Tom Crayner) > 2. Re: K3S "HI-RFI" warning a bit too sensitive? (Dave Cole) > 3. Re: K3S "HI-RFI" warning a bit too sensitive? (Dale Putnam) > 4. KX3 / KXPD3 "hanging"? (Thorpe, Jeffrey) > 5. Re: K3S "HI-RFI" warning a bit too sensitive? (Ken G Kopp) > 6. Re: KX3 / KXPD3 "hanging"? (David Box) > 7. Re: K3S "HI-RFI" warning a bit too sensitive? (Joe Subich, W4TV) > 8. Re: K3S "HI-RFI" warning a bit too sensitive? (Michael Walker) > 9. Re: K3S "HI-RFI" warning a bit too sensitive? (Jim Brown) > 10. Re: K3S "HI-RFI" warning a bit too sensitive? (Helmut Berka) > 11. Let me build your K2 (Alan Price) > 12. Re: KX3 / FLDIGI Question (James Bennett) > 13. Re: KX3 / FLDIGI Question (Jorge Diez - CX6VM) > 14. K3/100 for sale (thomas branton) > 15. KX2 Shipping Status (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) > 16. Re: KX2 Shipping Status (Peter Pauly) > 17. Re: KX2 real life power (Wayne Burdick) > 18. Re: KXPD3 thumb screw (Ron D'Eau Claire) > 19. Re: KX2 Shipping Status (Walter Underwood) > 20. K-Pod modification for K3S (Randy Farmer) > 21. Re: KX3 / KXPD3 "hanging"? (Thorpe, Jeffrey) > 22. P3/TX Mon Coupler Switching Idea (Mike VE3YF) > 23. Re: P3/TX Mon Coupler Switching Idea (Alan Bloom) > 24. KX3 S-meter segment stuck (Erik Basilier) > 25. Re: KX3 S-meter segment stuck (Erlend Grimseid) > 26. Re: P3/TX Mon Coupler Switching Idea (Mike VE3YF) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 07:37:50 -0400 > From: Tom Crayner > To: david perry > Cc: elecraft > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 real life power > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Sounds like the batteries are possibly suspect. > > A KX3 will give out 10W down to 10V according to the firmware release > (v2.38), and although I haven't personally run my batteries down that low I > haven't seen any behavior to indicate otherwise (in other words I'm getting > 10W out, not 3 or 4W as you are seeing). Check and see if you are on that > FW release. > > On the KX2 I am set at 5W out (not the full 10W due to duty cycle of the > digital I use) and I am still getting the full 5W out with the battery pack > about half depleted (if I believe the amp hours reading). > > Tom, W2YF > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:45 AM, david perry wrote: > >> Im wondering what KX2 users are finding to be the output power when on >> internal battery. I ask because I am using a friends KX3 at the moment and >> whilst on external power it gives full spec, on internals the power drops >> to 3 or 4 watts out. Is the KX2 better than this or is that all there is, >> even on the new rig? >> >> David >> G4YVM >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to tcrayner at gmail.com >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 04:58:53 -0700 > From: Dave Cole > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S "HI-RFI" warning a bit too sensitive? > Message-ID: <1466164733.11264.6.camel at nk7z.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Fri, 2016-06-17 at 06:30 -0500, Chris L wrote: >> A baby monitor. Yep, not one block from my house lives a couple with a >> cheap 49MHz baby monitor blasting away on 49.850MHz all hours of the >> day and night. A short "fox hunt" with a service monitor confirmed >> this. ?There is 100KHz worth of splatter coming from this thing and my >> old Icom 706 shows it as S9 with the attenuator on (and S9 +60 >> without). I spoke with someone at the house and confirmed that this >> was the problem by shutting down the device for an hour. >> Unfortunately, the couple's mother-in-law lives with them and insists >> on using the baby monitor all day and night. >> Chris >> KB9SDX >>? > > Chris, > Make sure they know that the baby monitor is transmitting every word > they say, (assuming it does). ?That will more than likely change their > minds. > --? > > 73's, and thanks, > Dave (NK7Z) > For software/hardware reviews see: > http://www.nk7z.net > -- > > 73's, and thanks, > Dave (NK7Z) > For software/hardware reviews see: > http://www.nk7z.net > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 12:14:25 +0000 > From: Dale Putnam > To: Chris L , Elecraft > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S "HI-RFI" warning a bit too sensitive? > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I certainly hope they NEVER speak their credit card numbers.. their plans for the weekend, vacation, trips away from the house, bank accounts, security questions, or pretty much anything else. In today's world with so much concern about identity theft, credit card information... listening in, like they are providing, would provide enough information to very easily swipe an ID or two.. or three.. apply for credit cards, buy a car, or almost anything else. Wow... the possibilities are endless, and 99% are not good at all. > > Aside from the simple fact that it is a transmitter, and causes an issue. > > Good luck getting them to shut it off... > > IF it is a "security thing" for an elderly.. maybe the explanation of Life Line.. or some similar monitoring system would help... or the purchase of a pair of family service walky talkies, from the box stores, for less than 40 would work better.. that would certainly give the coverage, and only transmit when needed. > > > Have a great day, > --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy > > > > ________________________________ > From: Elecraft on behalf of Chris L > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 5:30 AM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] K3S "HI-RFI" warning a bit too sensitive? > > I believe the manual states that it takes a watt or two of power at the > antenna connector to set off the HI-RFI warning. Imagine my surprise when I > began seeing the warning on my brand new K3S just days after I'd assembled > it. Almost everyone else who has seen this error has been using a K3 in a > contest environment with multiple transmitters, so I was particularly > stumped as there are no other transmitters in my shack (everything is > boxed) and no active hams in my neighborhood. I did some testing and traced > it to a signal coming in on my 6 meter antenna, which when I disconnected > it caused the HI-RFI warning to go away. Using a VHF capable SDR in > wideband mode, I found a strong FM signal on 49.850 and traced it to... > > A baby monitor. Yep, not one block from my house lives a couple with a > cheap 49MHz baby monitor blasting away on 49.850MHz all hours of the day > and night. A short "fox hunt" with a service monitor confirmed this. There > is 100KHz worth of splatter coming from this thing and my old Icom 706 > shows it as S9 with the attenuator on (and S9 +60 without). I spoke with > someone at the house and confirmed that this was the problem by shutting > down the device for an hour. Unfortunately, the couple's mother-in-law > lives with them and insists on using the baby monitor all day and night. > > I will continue to press for a diplomatic solution (possibly offering to > buy them a newer 800/900MHz unit), but should I fail at that, is this > something I should worry about as far as damaging my K3S? I find it hard to > believe that a baby monitor is pumping out more than 1 watt, so I'm > inclined to believe that the K3S is being a bit overprotective. This plus > the fact that my 6 meter antenna is a PAR Omniangle which is > omnidirectional and according to PAR has no appreciable gain. I'm tempted > to program the K3S to ignore the HI-RFI warning for the time being. > Thoughts? > > Chris > KB9SDX > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to daleputnam at hotmail.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 13:37:45 +0000 > From: "Thorpe, Jeffrey" > To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" > Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 / KXPD3 "hanging"? > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I've finally gotten back to working on my morse, practicing with my KX3 with the KXPD3 attached. At first I thought it was just me, as I am just relearning this after 30 years of non-use. (Straight-key back in high-school) > > I have the KX3 set for text decode, and speed set to 15wpm. Quite often, it seems to "hang" for a fraction of a second (variable time, but at times up to almost a full second). Usually it is with the right paddle (the dah). I can have the paddle pressed, but I don't get the dah right away - sometimes. Quite aggravating. I tried bumping the speed up as a test, with the same problem still occurring. > > I figure this could be a contact problem, but thought I'd ask first before doing any kind of disassembly, to see if there was some other known issue (maybe with firmware) first. I have the latest firmware installed. The KXPD3 is about one year old, and I have just now started using it. > > Jeff - KG7HDZ > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 09:00:06 -0600 > From: Ken G Kopp > To: Chris L , elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S "HI-RFI" warning a bit too sensitive? > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Perhaps a coax stub cut for the 49 MHZ frequency and "T'd" off the > connector used by your 6M antenna could provide enough attenuation to > alleviate the problem. > > 73 > > K0PP > I believe the manual states that it takes a watt or two of power at the > antenna connector to set off the HI-RFI warning. Imagine my surprise when I > began seeing the warning on my brand new K3S just days after I'd assembled > it. Almost everyone else who has seen this error has been using a K3 in a > contest environment with multiple transmitters, so I was particularly > stumped as there are no other transmitters in my shack (everything is > boxed) and no active hams in my neighborhood. I did some testing and traced > it to a signal coming in on my 6 meter antenna, which when I disconnected > it caused the HI-RFI warning to go away. Using a VHF capable SDR in > wideband mode, I found a strong FM signal on 49.850 and traced it to... > > A baby monitor. Yep, not one block from my house lives a couple with a > cheap 49MHz baby monitor blasting away on 49.850MHz all hours of the day > and night. A short "fox hunt" with a service monitor confirmed this. There > is 100KHz worth of splatter coming from this thing and my old Icom 706 > shows it as S9 with the attenuator on (and S9 +60 without). I spoke with > someone at the house and confirmed that this was the problem by shutting > down the device for an hour. Unfortunately, the couple's mother-in-law > lives with them and insists on using the baby monitor all day and night. > > I will continue to press for a diplomatic solution (possibly offering to > buy them a newer 800/900MHz unit), but should I fail at that, is this > something I should worry about as far as damaging my K3S? I find it hard to > believe that a baby monitor is pumping out more than 1 watt, so I'm > inclined to believe that the K3S is being a bit overprotective. This plus > the fact that my 6 meter antenna is a PAR Omniangle which is > omnidirectional and according to PAR has no appreciable gain. I'm tempted > to program the K3S to ignore the HI-RFI warning for the time being. > Thoughts? > > Chris > KB9SDX > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kengkopp at gmail.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 10:20:00 -0500 > From: David Box > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 / KXPD3 "hanging"? > Message-ID: <8ee8eab8-ea92-5874-a03f-e95b766d824f at eagle1llc.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 11:23:31 -0400 > From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S "HI-RFI" warning a bit too sensitive? > Message-ID: <220d9780-f098-90d6-68e4-0360c05b5427 at subich.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > >> Using a VHF capable SDR in wideband mode, I found a strong FM signal >> on 49.850 and traced it to... > > The SDR should be capable of providing a calibrated (dBm) signal > strength. With that information and the distance from the target > it should be relatively simple to calculate the ERP of the baby > monitor. > > Given that you report the "HI-RFI" indicator is being activated on the > K3S, I would suspect the baby monitor is producing an illegal ERP - > whether it is out of spec accidentally (manufacturing) or has been > tampered with by the owner is not an issue. I would generate a letter > of complaint to the FCC (with calculated ERP data) indicating that you > believe the baby monitor is not in compliance with regulations and must > cease. Send a copy to the owners of the baby monitor a week before > mailing the complaint to the Commission. > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > >> I believe the manual states that it takes a watt or two of power at the >> antenna connector to set off the HI-RFI warning. Imagine my surprise when I >> began seeing the warning on my brand new K3S just days after I'd assembled >> it. Almost everyone else who has seen this error has been using a K3 in a >> contest environment with multiple transmitters, so I was particularly >> stumped as there are no other transmitters in my shack (everything is >> boxed) and no active hams in my neighborhood. I did some testing and traced >> it to a signal coming in on my 6 meter antenna, which when I disconnected >> it caused the HI-RFI warning to go away. Using a VHF capable SDR in >> wideband mode, I found a strong FM signal on 49.850 and traced it to... >> >> A baby monitor. Yep, not one block from my house lives a couple with a >> cheap 49MHz baby monitor blasting away on 49.850MHz all hours of the day >> and night. A short "fox hunt" with a service monitor confirmed this. There >> is 100KHz worth of splatter coming from this thing and my old Icom 706 >> shows it as S9 with the attenuator on (and S9 +60 without). I spoke with >> someone at the house and confirmed that this was the problem by shutting >> down the device for an hour. Unfortunately, the couple's mother-in-law >> lives with them and insists on using the baby monitor all day and night. >> >> I will continue to press for a diplomatic solution (possibly offering to >> buy them a newer 800/900MHz unit), but should I fail at that, is this >> something I should worry about as far as damaging my K3S? I find it hard to >> believe that a baby monitor is pumping out more than 1 watt, so I'm >> inclined to believe that the K3S is being a bit overprotective. This plus >> the fact that my 6 meter antenna is a PAR Omniangle which is >> omnidirectional and according to PAR has no appreciable gain. I'm tempted >> to program the K3S to ignore the HI-RFI warning for the time being. >> Thoughts? >> >> Chris >> KB9SDX >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 11:27:52 -0400 > From: Michael Walker > To: "Elecraft at mailman.qth.net" > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S "HI-RFI" warning a bit too sensitive? > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I had this problem once. Next time I showed up with a recording of > everything they said over dinner and told them I recordered it over a block > away. > > That got it fixed. > > In another case, with 49Mhz headphones, I just bought them a new 900mhz > pair and gave it to them if they gave me their old ones. Sometimes it is > just cheaper. > > Mike va3mw > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > >> >> Using a VHF capable SDR in wideband mode, I found a strong FM signal >>> on 49.850 and traced it to... >>> >> >> The SDR should be capable of providing a calibrated (dBm) signal >> strength. With that information and the distance from the target >> it should be relatively simple to calculate the ERP of the baby >> monitor. >> >> Given that you report the "HI-RFI" indicator is being activated on the >> K3S, I would suspect the baby monitor is producing an illegal ERP - >> whether it is out of spec accidentally (manufacturing) or has been >> tampered with by the owner is not an issue. I would generate a letter >> of complaint to the FCC (with calculated ERP data) indicating that you >> believe the baby monitor is not in compliance with regulations and must >> cease. Send a copy to the owners of the baby monitor a week before >> mailing the complaint to the Commission. >> >> 73, >> >> ... Joe, W4TV >> >> >> >> >> I believe the manual states that it takes a watt or two of power at the >>> antenna connector to set off the HI-RFI warning. Imagine my surprise when >>> I >>> began seeing the warning on my brand new K3S just days after I'd assembled >>> it. Almost everyone else who has seen this error has been using a K3 in a >>> contest environment with multiple transmitters, so I was particularly >>> stumped as there are no other transmitters in my shack (everything is >>> boxed) and no active hams in my neighborhood. I did some testing and >>> traced >>> it to a signal coming in on my 6 meter antenna, which when I disconnected >>> it caused the HI-RFI warning to go away. Using a VHF capable SDR in >>> wideband mode, I found a strong FM signal on 49.850 and traced it to... >>> >>> A baby monitor. Yep, not one block from my house lives a couple with a >>> cheap 49MHz baby monitor blasting away on 49.850MHz all hours of the day >>> and night. A short "fox hunt" with a service monitor confirmed this. There >>> is 100KHz worth of splatter coming from this thing and my old Icom 706 >>> shows it as S9 with the attenuator on (and S9 +60 without). I spoke with >>> someone at the house and confirmed that this was the problem by shutting >>> down the device for an hour. Unfortunately, the couple's mother-in-law >>> lives with them and insists on using the baby monitor all day and night. >>> >>> I will continue to press for a diplomatic solution (possibly offering to >>> buy them a newer 800/900MHz unit), but should I fail at that, is this >>> something I should worry about as far as damaging my K3S? I find it hard >>> to >>> believe that a baby monitor is pumping out more than 1 watt, so I'm >>> inclined to believe that the K3S is being a bit overprotective. This plus >>> the fact that my 6 meter antenna is a PAR Omniangle which is >>> omnidirectional and according to PAR has no appreciable gain. I'm tempted >>> to program the K3S to ignore the HI-RFI warning for the time being. >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> Chris >>> KB9SDX >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to va3mw at portcredit.net >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 08:44:13 -0700 > From: Jim Brown > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S "HI-RFI" warning a bit too sensitive? > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > On Fri,6/17/2016 8:00 AM, Ken G Kopp wrote: >> Perhaps a coax stub cut for the 49 MHZ frequency and "T'd" off the >> connector used by your 6M antenna could provide enough attenuation to >> alleviate the problem. > > Stubs are not nearly narrow enough to solve this problem. The unit in > question is in clear violation of FCC Rules if it interferes with > licensed communications, including yours. If it's putting out that much > signal, it's clearly in excess of FCC Rules, probably wildly so. > > A year or two ago, I bought a low power FM TX on amazon that I hoped to > use to feed an internet radio RX around my rural home and yard. I > quickly rejected it -- it produced a ton of RF trash up and down the > band and lots of audible distortion on its TX frequency. As I recall, it > was advertised as 1W, and I had a 20 dB pad on the antenna. For at least > five years, I've used a legal "trucker's" FM modulator that is in the > 10mW range; my goal was to get about 6dB more field strength, and a > cleaner signal. > > W4TV has given you good advice on the route through the FCC, but buying > them a decent unit may be the more practical solution. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 18:05:19 +0200 > From: Helmut Berka > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S "HI-RFI" warning a bit too sensitive? > Message-ID: <57641FBF.7020909 at t-online.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Hi Chris, > > Did you tell her / them how dangerous high power RF is and how negative > it affects a baby? > > > vy 73 de > > Helmut DL2MAJ > > > > Am 17/06/16 um 13:30 schrieb Chris L: >> I believe the manual states that it takes a watt or two of power at the >> antenna connector to set off the HI-RFI warning. Imagine my surprise when I >> began seeing the warning on my brand new K3S just days after I'd assembled >> it. Almost everyone else who has seen this error has been using a K3 in a >> contest environment with multiple transmitters, so I was particularly >> stumped as there are no other transmitters in my shack (everything is >> boxed) and no active hams in my neighborhood. I did some testing and traced >> it to a signal coming in on my 6 meter antenna, which when I disconnected >> it caused the HI-RFI warning to go away. Using a VHF capable SDR in >> wideband mode, I found a strong FM signal on 49.850 and traced it to... >> >> A baby monitor. Yep, not one block from my house lives a couple with a >> cheap 49MHz baby monitor blasting away on 49.850MHz all hours of the day >> and night. A short "fox hunt" with a service monitor confirmed this. There >> is 100KHz worth of splatter coming from this thing and my old Icom 706 >> shows it as S9 with the attenuator on (and S9 +60 without). I spoke with >> someone at the house and confirmed that this was the problem by shutting >> down the device for an hour. Unfortunately, the couple's mother-in-law >> lives with them and insists on using the baby monitor all day and night. >> >> I will continue to press for a diplomatic solution (possibly offering to >> buy them a newer 800/900MHz unit), but should I fail at that, is this >> something I should worry about as far as damaging my K3S? I find it hard to >> believe that a baby monitor is pumping out more than 1 watt, so I'm >> inclined to believe that the K3S is being a bit overprotective. This plus >> the fact that my 6 meter antenna is a PAR Omniangle which is >> omnidirectional and according to PAR has no appreciable gain. I'm tempted >> to program the K3S to ignore the HI-RFI warning for the time being. >> Thoughts? >> >> Chris >> KB9SDX >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to helmut.berka at t-online.de >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 16:05:20 +0000 > From: Alan Price > To: elecraft > Subject: [Elecraft] Let me build your K2 > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > You have a new K2 (or any other Elecraft kit) with the options you want. My prices are reasonable. > > > 73 > > Alan > > W1HYV > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 09:09:52 -0700 > From: James Bennett > To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 / FLDIGI Question > Message-ID: <607032ED-0FF3-4B67-9A73-78AF86BFB46E at me.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > For those interested?.. > > Got a suggestion from Ron, W7HD that the rig has to have VOX turned off. I had mine turned on. Turned it off and no longer have the TX hang problem. Yippee!! > > >> On Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016, at Wednesday, 12:05 PM, James Bennett wrote: >> >> Got a strange thing happening with my KX3 when I am running FLDIGI, and it just started happening in the past few days. FLDIGI is version 3.22.01. >> >> If I place FLDIGI into transmit mode the KX3 follows and whatever I type is transmitted - cool. However, when I tell FLDIGI to stop transmitting and go back to receive, FLDIGI quits sending audio as it has been instructed and ?appears? to go back to receive mode, but the KX3 TX light stays on and I have to press the XMIT button to make it go receive. Not cool. >> >> Furthermore, if I am using WSJT-X, T/R works fine. >> >> Running the KX3 in CW mode works fine - I press and release the key, the rig transmits and then goes back to receive. This obviously has something to do with FLDIGI. But I?m starting here with the Elecraft group in hopes someone has a suggestion. >> >> Any idea what I need to change to make the KX3 obey the FLDIGI command to return to receive mode? >> >> Thanks, Jim / W6JHB >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to w6jhb at me.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 13:14:27 -0300 > From: Jorge Diez - CX6VM > To: James Bennett > Cc: Elecraft Reflector Reflector > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 / FLDIGI Question > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > wait for coming version of SWISSLOG software http://www.informatix.li/ , > will have important support for FLDIGI, MultiPsk, Cw Skimmer and OmniRig > > 73, > Jorge > CX6VM/CW5W > > > > 2016-06-17 13:09 GMT-03:00 James Bennett : > >> For those interested?.. >> >> Got a suggestion from Ron, W7HD that the rig has to have VOX turned off. I >> had mine turned on. Turned it off and no longer have the TX hang problem. >> Yippee!! >> >> >> > On Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016, at Wednesday, 12:05 PM, James Bennett < >> w6jhb at me.com> wrote: >> > >> > Got a strange thing happening with my KX3 when I am running FLDIGI, and >> it just started happening in the past few days. FLDIGI is version 3.22.01. >> > >> > If I place FLDIGI into transmit mode the KX3 follows and whatever I type >> is transmitted - cool. However, when I tell FLDIGI to stop transmitting and >> go back to receive, FLDIGI quits sending audio as it has been instructed >> and ?appears? to go back to receive mode, but the KX3 TX light stays on and >> I have to press the XMIT button to make it go receive. Not cool. >> > >> > Furthermore, if I am using WSJT-X, T/R works fine. >> > >> > Running the KX3 in CW mode works fine - I press and release the key, the >> rig transmits and then goes back to receive. This obviously has something >> to do with FLDIGI. But I?m starting here with the Elecraft group in hopes >> someone has a suggestion. >> > >> > Any idea what I need to change to make the KX3 obey the FLDIGI command >> to return to receive mode? >> > >> > Thanks, Jim / W6JHB >> > ______________________________________________________________ >> > Elecraft mailing list >> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> > >> > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > Message delivered to w6jhb at me.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to cx6vm.jorge at gmail.com > > > > > -- > 73, > Jorge > CX6VM/CW5W > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 17:04:42 +0000 (UTC) > From: thomas branton > To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" , Thomas > Branton > Subject: [Elecraft] K3/100 for sale > Message-ID: > <1438065673.5072018.1466183082472.JavaMail.yahoo at mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I have my? K3/100 (serial number 61--) with KAT3; KXV3A; KBPF3; KFLA-400; KFLA-1.8; KFLA-2.8; KFLA-6; and KSYN3A for sale. It has been my backup rig and has seen little use. It has all the updates and has the new KSYN3A board installed. It is in mint shape and never seen cigarette smoke. I want $2300.00 plus shipping continental USA from 75964. E-mail me > if interested. Thanks,?Tom KF5WBS? > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 10:22:58 -0700 > From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" > To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Shipping Status > Message-ID: <02f9ed5d-ceb8-ba39-05ca-344022ca92ae at elecraft.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Current KX2 shipping Status: > Ordered through 5/27: Ships 6/17-6/21 > Ordered 5/28-29: Ships 6/21-6/22 > Ordered 5/30-6/1: Ships 6/22-6/23 > Ordered 6/2-6/3: Ships 6/23-24 > Ordered 6/4-6/5: Ships 6/24-27 > > For the latest KX2 shipping status, the best place to go is our shipping status > page at: > http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm > > Please note that due to the overwhelming success of the KX2, we are receiving a > huge number of emails and calls each day. If possible, please resist the urge to > email for status and read our status page. That will help us focus on processing > new orders for shipment quickly :-) > > For fastest response to shipping issues, please email sales at elecraft.com > directly, or call us at 831-763-4211 (add +1 in Eu). For tech support use > support at elecraft.com (k3support at ..., kx3support at ... and support at ... all go to > the support at elecraft.com mailbox, which is read by all of our support engineers.) > > On emails we may be delayed a business day in replying. (We also have a large > email load on Mondays from the accumulated weekend emails.) Also remember that > we are time shifted a day from Eu. > > 73, > Eric > /elecraft.com/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 13:36:36 -0400 > From: Peter Pauly > To: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" > Cc: Elecraft Reflector Reflector > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Shipping Status > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I ordered a KXPA100 amp four days ago and the status was in stock. It > hasn't shipped yet and I'm hoping to get it before Field Day, but I am > assuming that the popularity of the KX2 is indirectly affecting all of the > product lines. If I lived in CA, I would offer to come over and help. > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft < > eric at elecraft.com> wrote: > >> Current KX2 shipping Status: >> Ordered through 5/27: Ships 6/17-6/21 >> Ordered 5/28-29: Ships 6/21-6/22 >> Ordered 5/30-6/1: Ships 6/22-6/23 >> Ordered 6/2-6/3: Ships 6/23-24 >> Ordered 6/4-6/5: Ships 6/24-27 >> >> For the latest KX2 shipping status, the best place to go is our shipping >> status page at: >> http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm >> >> Please note that due to the overwhelming success of the KX2, we are >> receiving a huge number of emails and calls each day. If possible, please >> resist the urge to email for status and read our status page. That will >> help us focus on processing new orders for shipment quickly :-) >> >> For fastest response to shipping issues, please email sales at elecraft.com >> directly, or call us at 831-763-4211 (add +1 in Eu). For tech support >> use support at elecraft.com (k3support at ..., kx3support at ... and support at ... >> all go to the support at elecraft.com mailbox, which is read by all of our >> support engineers.) >> >> On emails we may be delayed a business day in replying. (We also have a >> large email load on Mondays from the accumulated weekend emails.) Also >> remember that we are time shifted a day from Eu. >> >> 73, >> Eric >> /elecraft.com/ >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ppauly at gmail.com >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 10:58:02 -0700 > From: Wayne Burdick > To: Tom Crayner > Cc: david perry , elecraft > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 real life power > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > The KX2 will put out a full 10 watts on most bands when running from 11-14 V. In real life :) > > The internal battery, when fully charged, starts out at 12 V but quickly settles to around 11 V. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > On Jun 17, 2016, at 4:37 AM, Tom Crayner wrote: > >> Sounds like the batteries are possibly suspect. >> >> A KX3 will give out 10W down to 10V according to the firmware release >> (v2.38), and although I haven't personally run my batteries down that low I >> haven't seen any behavior to indicate otherwise (in other words I'm getting >> 10W out, not 3 or 4W as you are seeing). Check and see if you are on that >> FW release. >> >> On the KX2 I am set at 5W out (not the full 10W due to duty cycle of the >> digital I use) and I am still getting the full 5W out with the battery pack >> about half depleted (if I believe the amp hours reading). >> >> Tom, W2YF >> >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:45 AM, david perry wrote: >> >>> Im wondering what KX2 users are finding to be the output power when on >>> internal battery. I ask because I am using a friends KX3 at the moment and >>> whilst on external power it gives full spec, on internals the power drops >>> to 3 or 4 watts out. Is the KX2 better than this or is that all there is, >>> even on the new rig? >>> >>> David >>> G4YVM >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to tcrayner at gmail.com >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 11:09:48 -0700 > From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" > To: "'Dennis L. Haarsager'" , > "'Elecraft at mailman.qth.net'" > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXPD3 thumb screw > Message-ID: <002f01d1c8c3$700ad0f0$502072d0$@biz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Doing some testing with only the KXPD3 paddles available, I just left the > longer screw out. One screw holds the paddles securely in place. > > 73, Ron AC7AC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dennis > L. Haarsager > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 6:19 PM > To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD3 thumb screw > > Got my KX2 today, SN 314. Pretty sweet! But, unfortunately, the KXPD2 is > back ordered. I already have a KXPD3 with the older "pointy" thumb screw. > Has anyone had luck just grinding the point down? > > 73, Dennis, N7DH/1 > > -- > Mail: PO Box 192, Kittery Point, ME 03905-0192 > +1 207-703-2472 (home) > +1 202-431-1556 (mobile) > +1 866-587-3403 (fax) > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to ron at elecraft.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 11:11:45 -0700 > From: Walter Underwood > To: Peter Pauly , Elecraft Reflector Reflector > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Shipping Status > Message-ID: <56277F11-8C14-4FBC-A725-769FFE8B8718 at wunderwood.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I ordered a KXPA100 kit on 6/2 and it was shipped on 6/8. That was after the KX2 announcement. > > I would expect that a fair number of people are ordering a KXPA100 with their KX2. > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > >> On Jun 17, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Peter Pauly wrote: >> >> I ordered a KXPA100 amp four days ago and the status was in stock. It >> hasn't shipped yet and I'm hoping to get it before Field Day, but I am >> assuming that the popularity of the KX2 is indirectly affecting all of the >> product lines. If I lived in CA, I would offer to come over and help. >> >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft < >> eric at elecraft.com> wrote: >> >>> Current KX2 shipping Status: >>> Ordered through 5/27: Ships 6/17-6/21 >>> Ordered 5/28-29: Ships 6/21-6/22 >>> Ordered 5/30-6/1: Ships 6/22-6/23 >>> Ordered 6/2-6/3: Ships 6/23-24 >>> Ordered 6/4-6/5: Ships 6/24-27 >>> >>> For the latest KX2 shipping status, the best place to go is our shipping >>> status page at: >>> http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm >>> >>> Please note that due to the overwhelming success of the KX2, we are >>> receiving a huge number of emails and calls each day. If possible, please >>> resist the urge to email for status and read our status page. That will >>> help us focus on processing new orders for shipment quickly :-) >>> >>> For fastest response to shipping issues, please email sales at elecraft.com >>> directly, or call us at 831-763-4211 (add +1 in Eu). For tech support >>> use support at elecraft.com (k3support at ..., kx3support at ... and support at ... >>> all go to the support at elecraft.com mailbox, which is read by all of our >>> support engineers.) >>> >>> On emails we may be delayed a business day in replying. (We also have a >>> large email load on Mondays from the accumulated weekend emails.) Also >>> remember that we are time shifted a day from Eu. >>> >>> 73, >>> Eric >>> /elecraft.com/ >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to ppauly at gmail.com >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 20 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 13:37:04 -0500 > From: Randy Farmer > To: elecraft > Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod modification for K3S > Message-ID: <08ef8df2-b132-7c72-8411-d3e05316fc68 at tx.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > As it happens, I will soon have my K3s under the knife to replace a > faulty PA module. It occurred to me that this would also be a good > opportunity to perform the internal modification to power the K-Pod via > the data cable. The web page says information on the modification "will > be posted here before product ship", but so far I haven't seen it. Has > anyone seen this information, and if so, could you please post a link to it? > > 73... > Randy, W8FN > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 21 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 19:25:53 +0000 > From: "Thorpe, Jeffrey" > To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 / KXPD3 "hanging"? > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Got a few responses. Turns out it was the grounding problem. Did the mod with some thin speaker wire and works well now. > > Jeff - KG7HDZ > >> On Jun 17, 2016, at 6:39 AM, Thorpe, Jeffrey wrote: >> >> I've finally gotten back to working on my morse, practicing with my KX3 with the KXPD3 attached. At first I thought it was just me, as I am just relearning this after 30 years of non-use. (Straight-key back in high-school) >> >> I have the KX3 set for text decode, and speed set to 15wpm. Quite often, it seems to "hang" for a fraction of a second (variable time, but at times up to almost a full second). Usually it is with the right paddle (the dah). I can have the paddle pressed, but I don't get the dah right away - sometimes. Quite aggravating. I tried bumping the speed up as a test, with the same problem still occurring. >> >> I figure this could be a contact problem, but thought I'd ask first before doing any kind of disassembly, to see if there was some other known issue (maybe with firmware) first. I have the latest firmware installed. The KXPD3 is about one year old, and I have just now started using it. >> >> Jeff - KG7HDZ >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to jthorpe at liberty.edu > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 22 > Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 00:10:03 +0000 > From: "Mike VE3YF" > To: "" > Subject: [Elecraft] P3/TX Mon Coupler Switching Idea > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I am thinking of getting a 2nd DCHF Coupler for my P3 TX Monitor Setup. This way I could Monitor 2 Outputs from the same P3. Currently I have a coupler right after my main linear via Ant 1 on the K3, but want to add a second coupler to the output of the KPA500 via Ant 2 on the K3. I then could switch between the outputs and use the same P3. I realize I can only use 1 coupler at a time, but changing cables etc out all the time would be a pain. Does anyone know of a switch that could handle this job. I have done a search on the internet and eBay and found nothing that would mate up to a RJ8 Connector which the TX Monitor and Couplers use. If any one is doing what I am contemplating I would like to hear from you. Tnx. > > 73 De Mike > VE3YF > > http://www.ve3yf.com > [http://www.ve3yf.com/] > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 23 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 20:30:00 -0700 > From: Alan Bloom > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3/TX Mon Coupler Switching Idea > Message-ID: <5764C038.9000601 at sonic.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > > I am thinking of getting a 2nd DCHF Coupler for my P3 TX Monitor > > Setup. This way I could Monitor 2 Outputs from the same P3. ... > > Does anyone know of a switch that could handle this job. > > Here's the one I use. It allows switching up to four 8P8C (RJ-45) > connectors. $10 from Amazon: > > https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AUB3SSA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 > > Alan N1AL > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 24 > Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 01:18:54 -0700 > From: "Erik Basilier" > To: > Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 S-meter segment stuck > Message-ID: <015301d1c93a$0db95170$292bf450$@cox.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi All, > > > > Today I have the S-5 segment stuck on my KX3 display. That is also the SWR 2 > segment. What I mean is the segment is black with no receive signal, while > the segments to the left of it are not black, and there is no transmission > going on. Reloading the firmware didn't help. Any ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > Erik K7TV > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 25 > Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 10:47:01 +0200 > From: Erlend Grimseid > To: Erik Basilier > Cc: Elecraft List > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 S-meter segment stuck > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Might it be the RF gain setting? > > 73 > LA4TTA > Erlend > > 2016-06-18 10:18 GMT+02:00 Erik Basilier : > >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> Today I have the S-5 segment stuck on my KX3 display. That is also the SWR >> 2 >> segment. What I mean is the segment is black with no receive signal, while >> the segments to the left of it are not black, and there is no transmission >> going on. Reloading the firmware didn't help. Any ideas? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Erik K7TV >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to egrimseid at gmail.com >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 26 > Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 09:36:02 +0000 > From: "Mike VE3YF" > To: "" > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3/TX Mon Coupler Switching Idea > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Alan: > > Tnx for the info, good to see someone else has done it. Question though, does the Coupler cable use RJ45 connectors, reason I ask I see on the Elecraft site it says RJ8, and I am not finding too much info on the Internet ref RJ8 Connectors. Perhaps I am reading too much into it. > > > > 73 De Mike > VE3YF > > http://www.ve3yf.com > [http://www.ve3yf.com/] > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > You must be a subscriber to post. > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > ------------------------------ > > End of Elecraft Digest, Vol 146, Issue 24 > ***************************************** From cautery at montac.com Sat Jun 18 08:39:33 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 07:39:33 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] P3/TX Mon Coupler Switching Idea In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: FYI, an RJ-8 modular plug will plug right in to an RJ-45 modular jack.... The retention key on the connector centers it in the RJ-45 jack so that the 4 center conductors are lined up. The key to making this work is to verify: 1) How are the jacks wired on the switch: 568A or 568B. 2) Match up the wiring in and out on the two P3 TxMon couplers' twisted pair jumpers and the patch cable you buy/make/modify to be the common jumper back from the switch to the P3 rear panel. Eesentially, you're making sure Elecraft used straight through wiring and not some sort of crossover arrangement or other between the P3 and the couplers. DON'T plug it all up UNLESS and UNTIL you map the conductors to make SURE they have continuity and continuity in accordance with the wire conductor order used on the P3 and the coupler. PROBABLY, Elecraft used straight through wiring, so it is just a matter of making the additional straight through patch cord to go from the P3 to the switch in/out. IF you want to get fancy and have the tools/skillset, make all new cables... Use RJ-8 on the P3 and couple ends and use RJ-45 on the ends that will plug into the switch. Holler if this has completely confused you and I will amplify/clarify. 73, ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 6/18/2016 4:36 AM, Mike VE3YF wrote: > Hi Alan: > > Tnx for the info, good to see someone else has done it. Question though, does the Coupler cable use RJ45 connectors, reason I ask I see on the Elecraft site it says RJ8, and I am not finding too much info on the Internet ref RJ8 Connectors. Perhaps I am reading too much into it. > > 73 De Mike > VE3YF > > http://www.ve3yf.com > [http://www.ve3yf.com/] From cautery at montac.com Sat Jun 18 09:00:23 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 08:00:23 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] P3/TX Mon Coupler Switching Idea In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9557b7ee-77d1-7428-1afe-101a4a4663c0@montac.com> Followup: Looking in the manual, the picture of the TXMON board clearly shows that the modular jack has 8 conductors. I'm almost certain that is an RJ-45 8P8C jack... But from what I can see, they are using AT LEAST conductors 2,4,6, and 8... (the solid wires for both 568A and 568B). You can see traces coming back from those 4 conductors to some SMT components on the board indicating the conductors are in use. Cannot tell if the other four connect at the board for sure. So... either they are 1) using all 8 wires, 2) Using 4 wires and grounding the paired wires to reduce crosstalk or RFI, or 3) they are using 4 wires for signals and leaving the other four completely open, thus surrendering the value of twisted pair. High probability that Elecraft used straight through wiring but verify anyway... Bottom Line... LOOK at your coupler cable.... count the conductors... If there are 8, then good. Take the two ends and hold them side by side with gold conductors facing you. IF the conductor color code from left to right match between the two cable ends, it is straight through wiring on the patch/jumper cable. Pretty conclusive that all you need to do is use quality CAT5e or better patch cables... chore over. But at least go through the verification process. The more I think about it, no to, the more I am beginning to believe the "RJ8" think in the manual is a typo ripe for inclusion on an Errata sheet. :-) ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 6/18/2016 4:36 AM, Mike VE3YF wrote: > Hi Alan: > > Tnx for the info, good to see someone else has done it. Question though, does the Coupler cable use RJ45 connectors, reason I ask I see on the Elecraft site it says RJ8, and I am not finding too much info on the Internet ref RJ8 Connectors. Perhaps I am reading too much into it. > > > > 73 De Mike > VE3YF > > http://www.ve3yf.com > [http://www.ve3yf.com/] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to cautery at montac.com From cautery at montac.com Sat Jun 18 09:19:46 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 08:19:46 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] P3/TX Mon Coupler Switching Idea In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <586709db-11bb-f171-c874-57d87b8683ee@montac.com> To make sure I have truly beat this horse to death... Go here: *http://www.elecraft.com/manual/P3%20Xmit%20Mon%20FAQ-ver-A-7.pdf * This is a Tx Mon FAQ... Page 6, 3c. "These 2 items will be connected with CAT5/CAT6 cable plugging into RJ45 jacks." "RJ8" in the Tx Mon Installation Manual is a "typo". 73, ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 6/18/2016 4:36 AM, Mike VE3YF wrote: > Hi Alan: > > Tnx for the info, good to see someone else has done it. Question though, does the Coupler cable use RJ45 connectors, reason I ask I see on the Elecraft site it says RJ8, and I am not finding too much info on the Internet ref RJ8 Connectors. Perhaps I am reading too much into it. > > 73 De Mike > VE3YF From cx7tt at 4email.net Sat Jun 18 09:43:40 2016 From: cx7tt at 4email.net (cx7tt at 4email.net) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 08:43:40 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3Mini to BY? Message-ID: Anybody successfully taken a K3Mini and RRC1258 to China? If so, any special advice or precautions? 73 Tom HP1XT From tomb18 at videotron.ca Sat Jun 18 12:01:45 2016 From: tomb18 at videotron.ca (Tom) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 12:01:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Win4K3Suite now supports the SDRPlay SDR as a panadapter allowing 1.8MHz bandwidth! Message-ID: <0D61DBDD2842452CB01350D7410C93CF@tomsPC> Hello, Win4K3Suite now supports the SDRPlay software defined radio when used as a panadapter. This device provides the lowest cost panadapter available for the K3 and K3S with an IF output and allows useable bandwidths up to 1.8MHz! No sound card is required. Unlike competing panadapter software for the K3, Win4K3Suite is truly plug and play requiring only refinement of the global offset. All bands and modes work without any configuration required. This release of Win4K3Suite also now supports connection to a K3/0 allowing remote control of your radio using the Elecraft K3/0 just like a K3. There are addition enhancements such as a doubling of the waterfall resolution, support for the 15W output of the KX3 and a few bug fixes. Win4K3Suite is the most comprehensive control program available for the Elecraft radios and interfaces to all third party hardware and software with minimum fuss. You can see Win4K3Suite in operation here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htVlc9x0IoU A free full functioning download is available at va2fsq.com 73 Tom --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From ron at cobi.biz Sat Jun 18 12:11:03 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 09:11:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] P3/TX Mon Coupler Switching Idea In-Reply-To: <5764C038.9000601@sonic.net> References: <5764C038.9000601@sonic.net> Message-ID: <001a01d1c97c$0366c710$0a345530$@biz> >From the P3 manual: Using Multiple Sensors If you wish to use more than one sensor with the P3, such as separate sensors for HF and VHF, you must switch the sensor cable to the active sensor as needed. A convenient way to do this is to use an external RJ45 switch that allows you to select the desired sensor. A suitable four-way switch box with RJ45 female connectors made by Sanoky Network 1 Input 4 Output RJ45 8P8C Manual Sharing Switch available on various on-line web sites. Others are the GadKo RJ45 switch box or the Electro Standards 8079 RJ45 A/B switch box. You will need an extra sensor cable with male RJ45 connectors to attach the switch box to the P3. A suitable 6-foot W2 Sensor Cable available from Elecraft (Order E850638). 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3/TX Mon Coupler Switching Idea > I am thinking of getting a 2nd DCHF Coupler for my P3 TX Monitor > Setup. This way I could Monitor 2 Outputs from the same P3. ... > Does anyone know of a switch that could handle this job. From david.m.shoaf at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 12:52:58 2016 From: david.m.shoaf at gmail.com (David Shoaf) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 09:52:58 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 S-meter segment stuck (Greg Cote) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1466268778455-7618963.post@n2.nabble.com> Check the RF Gain setting. I'll bet it is not zero! Cheers, David -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Re-KX3-S-meter-segment-stuck-Greg-Cote-tp7618957p7618963.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From bill at wjschmidt.com Sat Jun 18 13:53:17 2016 From: bill at wjschmidt.com (Dr. William J. Schmidt, II) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 13:53:17 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] P3/TX Mon Coupler Switching Idea In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <731458EE-0F65-413D-80AF-BA2BE1F42F7B@wjschmidt.com> One of the guys at Elecraft (Mike?) did this with a cheap switch box available off Amazon. I took that box and added some video analog switches and a band decoder to do it automagically and basis power level. Its a simple matter to do. Just get creative. Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch ? K9ZC Staunton, Illinois Owner ? Operator Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com email: bill at wjschmidt.com > On Jun 17, 2016, at 8:10 PM, Mike VE3YF wrote: > > I am thinking of getting a 2nd DCHF Coupler for my P3 TX Monitor Setup. This way I could Monitor 2 Outputs from the same P3. Currently I have a coupler right after my main linear via Ant 1 on the K3, but want to add a second coupler to the output of the KPA500 via Ant 2 on the K3. I then could switch between the outputs and use the same P3. I realize I can only use 1 coupler at a time, but changing cables etc out all the time would be a pain. Does anyone know of a switch that could handle this job. I have done a search on the internet and eBay and found nothing that would mate up to a RJ8 Connector which the TX Monitor and Couplers use. If any one is doing what I am contemplating I would like to hear from you. Tnx. > > 73 De Mike > VE3YF > > http://www.ve3yf.com > [http://www.ve3yf.com/] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to bill at wjschmidt.com From lmarion at mt.net Sat Jun 18 15:26:59 2016 From: lmarion at mt.net (lmarion) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 13:26:59 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S master power? Message-ID: Is there a K3S setting that will power on the P3, KAT500 and KPA500 when you power on the K3S ? Thanks either way, Leroy AB7CE From rv6amark at yahoo.com Sat Jun 18 15:53:27 2016 From: rv6amark at yahoo.com (Mark) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 12:53:27 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 S-meter segment stuck (Greg Cote) Message-ID: <5yqaxhrtwpopujells8hju6l.1466279591776@email.android.com> As a follow on to David's post: "Check the RF Gain setting.? I'll bet it is not zero!" I had the same problem when I first got my KX3. ?Thought I was going to have to send the radio in for an LCD replacement until Wayne politely suggested I press the AF/RF SQL knob until RF appears, then turn it all the way to the left until -0 appears. ?That fixed it. ?The reason is in the Owners Manual on page 12: "If you reduce RF gain more than a few dB, a separate segment of the S-meter turns on as a reminder. The segment used varies with the amount of RF gain." Mark KE6BB? From w2kj at bellsouth.net Sat Jun 18 16:33:39 2016 From: w2kj at bellsouth.net (Joe W2KJ) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 16:33:39 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2 arrived Message-ID: Howdy Gang: My KX2, s/n 347 ordered on 25 May, was delivered this afternoon. Putting it through its paces now. Hard to believe how small this radio is!! 73, Joe W2KJ I QRP, therefore I am From nr4c at widomaker.com Sat Jun 18 17:33:30 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 17:33:30 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 S-meter segment stuck In-Reply-To: <015301d1c93a$0db95170$292bf450$@cox.net> References: <015301d1c93a$0db95170$292bf450$@cox.net> Message-ID: It indicates that RF Gain is not set to zero. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jun 18, 2016, at 4:18 AM, Erik Basilier wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > Today I have the S-5 segment stuck on my KX3 display. That is also the SWR 2 > segment. What I mean is the segment is black with no receive signal, while > the segments to the left of it are not black, and there is no transmission > going on. Reloading the firmware didn't help. Any ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > Erik K7TV > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From jim.gmforum at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 18:17:57 2016 From: jim.gmforum at gmail.com (Jim GM) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 17:17:57 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 real life power Message-ID: <5765c891.4b136b0a.be479.2b79@mx.google.com> Just had to recharge battery for the first time. I used just about 2.1 hours of battery time. Real time I had the radio on for just over 7 hours calling CQ and just in the receive mode. Output of my KX2 was 5 watts and the Battery Min was set for 9.0 V. My question what is a better setting for this radio 8.7 V. to get my full 2.5 hours or is my thinking wrong? If so why? Jim K9TF From Jim.Kutsch at ky2d.com Sat Jun 18 18:18:16 2016 From: Jim.Kutsch at ky2d.com (Jim Kutsch, KY2D) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 18:18:16 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Powered USB hub for multiple KUSB Message-ID: <001801d1c9af$50551cb0$f0ff5610$@ky2d.com> I'm running out of USB ports and need a USB hub. It will serve the KUSB for the KX3, KPA500, and KAT500, as well as a SignaLink and a packet interface. Do any of you have a recommendation of a good, RF quiet powered hub? Are there any to avoid? It would be great to be able to power it from the shack 12 VDC supply rather than have yet another power brick. In the absence of any info, I'm looking at an Anker 7 port powered hub that is powered from a 12 VDC adapter. Thanks and 73, Jim, KY2D From w7ox at socal.rr.com Sat Jun 18 18:30:06 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 15:30:06 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Powered USB hub for multiple KUSB In-Reply-To: <001801d1c9af$50551cb0$f0ff5610$@ky2d.com> References: <001801d1c9af$50551cb0$f0ff5610$@ky2d.com> Message-ID: Get a USB3 hub while you're at it. Why powered? None of mine are. Well, maybe due to USB3 ports :-) Phil W7OX On 6/18/16 3:18 PM, Jim Kutsch, KY2D wrote: > I'm running out of USB ports and need a USB hub. It will serve the KUSB for > the KX3, KPA500, and KAT500, as well as a SignaLink and a packet interface. > Do any of you have a recommendation of a good, RF quiet powered hub? Are > there any to avoid? It would be great to be able to power it from the shack > 12 VDC supply rather than have yet another power brick. In the absence of > any info, I'm looking at an Anker 7 port powered hub that is powered from a > 12 VDC adapter. > > > > > > Thanks and 73, Jim, KY2D > > From kstover at ac0h.net Sat Jun 18 18:52:20 2016 From: kstover at ac0h.net (Kevin) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 17:52:20 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Powered USB hub for multiple KUSB In-Reply-To: References: <001801d1c9af$50551cb0$f0ff5610$@ky2d.com> Message-ID: <7eaa8d86-58cb-14e4-23fb-412f9c98669f@ac0h.net> Why powered? Because motherboard USB ports are limited to 100ma current draw at computer startup. Then once they reach 93% of rated voltage the limit goes to 500ma. Maximum power draw for any one port is 2.25 watts. With an unpowered hub all connected devices share the current/power limit. Get a powered hub and the seven or eight devices hanging off the hub are guaranteed not to overload the USB port. On 6/18/2016 5:30 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > Get a USB3 hub while you're at it. > > Why powered? None of mine are. Well, maybe due to USB3 ports :-) > > Phil W7OX > > On 6/18/16 3:18 PM, Jim Kutsch, KY2D wrote: >> I'm running out of USB ports and need a USB hub. It will serve the >> KUSB for >> the KX3, KPA500, and KAT500, as well as a SignaLink and a packet >> interface. >> Do any of you have a recommendation of a good, RF quiet powered hub? Are >> there any to avoid? It would be great to be able to power it from the >> shack >> 12 VDC supply rather than have yet another power brick. In the >> absence of >> any info, I'm looking at an Anker 7 port powered hub that is powered >> from a >> 12 VDC adapter. >> >> >> >> Thanks and 73, Jim, KY2D >> >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kstover at ac0h.net > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From r.tristani at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 19:10:50 2016 From: r.tristani at gmail.com (Ramon Tristani) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 19:10:50 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Powered USB hub for multiple KUSB In-Reply-To: <001801d1c9af$50551cb0$f0ff5610$@ky2d.com> References: <001801d1c9af$50551cb0$f0ff5610$@ky2d.com> Message-ID: <0430766D-6CE7-44C6-AAE0-5E92F3503064@gmail.com> The Amazon ?basics? is a ten-USB 3 port and works very well in my system. Ram?n E. Tristani Sr. r.tristani at gmail.com https://www.flickr.com/photos/nq9v/ www.tristaniministries.org www.tristaniphotography.com > On Jun 18, 2016, at 6:18 PM, Jim Kutsch, KY2D wrote: > > I'm running out of USB ports and need a USB hub. It will serve the KUSB for > the KX3, KPA500, and KAT500, as well as a SignaLink and a packet interface. > Do any of you have a recommendation of a good, RF quiet powered hub? Are > there any to avoid? It would be great to be able to power it from the shack > 12 VDC supply rather than have yet another power brick. In the absence of > any info, I'm looking at an Anker 7 port powered hub that is powered from a > 12 VDC adapter. > > > > > > Thanks and 73, Jim, KY2D > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to r.tristani at gmail.com From wunder at wunderwood.org Sat Jun 18 20:01:49 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 17:01:49 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Powered USB hub for multiple KUSB In-Reply-To: <7eaa8d86-58cb-14e4-23fb-412f9c98669f@ac0h.net> References: <001801d1c9af$50551cb0$f0ff5610$@ky2d.com> <7eaa8d86-58cb-14e4-23fb-412f9c98669f@ac0h.net> Message-ID: I haven?t tried hubs, but we have an Anker USB charging station that is great. They can probably make decent powered USB hubs, too. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jun 18, 2016, at 3:52 PM, Kevin wrote: > > Why powered? > > Because motherboard USB ports are limited to 100ma current draw at computer startup. Then once they reach 93% of rated voltage the limit goes to 500ma. Maximum power draw for any one port is 2.25 watts. With an unpowered hub all connected devices share the current/power limit. > > Get a powered hub and the seven or eight devices hanging off the hub are guaranteed not to overload the USB port. > > > On 6/18/2016 5:30 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: >> Get a USB3 hub while you're at it. >> >> Why powered? None of mine are. Well, maybe due to USB3 ports :-) >> >> Phil W7OX >> >> On 6/18/16 3:18 PM, Jim Kutsch, KY2D wrote: >>> I'm running out of USB ports and need a USB hub. It will serve the KUSB for >>> the KX3, KPA500, and KAT500, as well as a SignaLink and a packet interface. >>> Do any of you have a recommendation of a good, RF quiet powered hub? Are >>> there any to avoid? It would be great to be able to power it from the shack >>> 12 VDC supply rather than have yet another power brick. In the absence of >>> any info, I'm looking at an Anker 7 port powered hub that is powered from a >>> 12 VDC adapter. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks and 73, Jim, KY2D >>> >>> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to kstover at ac0h.net >> > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From w7ox at socal.rr.com Sat Jun 18 20:07:41 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 17:07:41 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Powered USB hub for multiple KUSB In-Reply-To: <7eaa8d86-58cb-14e4-23fb-412f9c98669f@ac0h.net> References: <001801d1c9af$50551cb0$f0ff5610$@ky2d.com> <7eaa8d86-58cb-14e4-23fb-412f9c98669f@ac0h.net> Message-ID: <76265c2b-3847-c6a6-8fd4-9ae021dfca88@socal.rr.com> My computers have no such limitations (all USB3 and no issues with un-powered hubs, of which I use three). Phil W7OX On 6/18/16 3:52 PM, Kevin wrote: > Why powered? > > Because motherboard USB ports are limited to > 100ma current draw at computer startup. Then > once they reach 93% of rated voltage the limit > goes to 500ma. Maximum power draw for any one > port is 2.25 watts. With an unpowered hub all > connected devices share the current/power limit. > > Get a powered hub and the seven or eight devices > hanging off the hub are guaranteed not to > overload the USB port. > > > On 6/18/2016 5:30 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: >> Get a USB3 hub while you're at it. >> >> Why powered? None of mine are. Well, maybe due >> to USB3 ports :-) >> >> Phil W7OX >> >> On 6/18/16 3:18 PM, Jim Kutsch, KY2D wrote: >>> I'm running out of USB ports and need a USB >>> hub. It will serve the KUSB for >>> the KX3, KPA500, and KAT500, as well as a >>> SignaLink and a packet interface. >>> Do any of you have a recommendation of a good, >>> RF quiet powered hub? Are >>> there any to avoid? It would be great to be >>> able to power it from the shack >>> 12 VDC supply rather than have yet another >>> power brick. In the absence of >>> any info, I'm looking at an Anker 7 port >>> powered hub that is powered from a >>> 12 VDC adapter. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks and 73, Jim, KY2D From fcady at montana.edu Sat Jun 18 20:15:15 2016 From: fcady at montana.edu (Cady, Fred) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 00:15:15 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S master power? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I use a rigrunner 4010S that has 10 outlets and one that, when it detects a current draw from turning on the K3, turns on all the others. Cheers, Fred KE7X For all KE7X Elecraft books, see www.ke7x.com. ________________________________ From: Elecraft on behalf of lmarion Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 1:26 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] K3S master power? Is there a K3S setting that will power on the P3, KAT500 and KPA500 when you power on the K3S ? Thanks either way, Leroy AB7CE ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to fcady at montana.edu From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Sat Jun 18 20:27:00 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 17:27:00 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Powered USB hub for multiple KUSB In-Reply-To: <001801d1c9af$50551cb0$f0ff5610$@ky2d.com> References: <001801d1c9af$50551cb0$f0ff5610$@ky2d.com> Message-ID: On Sat,6/18/2016 3:18 PM, Jim Kutsch, KY2D wrote: > Do any of you have a recommendation of a good, RF quiet powered hub? In the last few years, I've acquired a couple of different units "just in case," and a year or two ago, set them up and checked for RF noise. The better one is a 7-port unit with the SIIG nameplate rated for 3.0 and 2.0. It runs from a 5V wall wart, and the supplied wart is rated 2A @5VDC. It also self-powers from a USB port, but with reduced available port power. My note on the unit says "Some noise 160M." The model numbers I see on it are 02-1335A and JU-H70212-S1. It's 3.5-in square by 1-in high, silver-Al top plate on what feels like a metallic bottom pan. Both the hub and the wall wart carry FCC and CE labels. 73, Jim K9YC From KE8G at cox.net Sat Jun 18 20:28:25 2016 From: KE8G at cox.net (KE8G) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 19:28:25 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S master power? In-Reply-To: <8QH61t00V45oxQM01QH7c8> References: <8QH61t00V45oxQM01QH7c8> Message-ID: <6CFC9F5B-F890-4079-96F4-5A2390F6C289@cox.net> Doesn't that present a problem? I thought the KAT500 was supposed to be powered up before turning on the K3, or has that somehow been changed and I am stuck in the past? 73 de Jim - KE8G Sent from my iPad > On Jun 18, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Cady, Fred wrote: > > > I use a rigrunner 4010S that has 10 outlets and one that, when it detects a current draw from turning on the K3, turns on all the others. > > Cheers, > > Fred KE7X > > > For all KE7X Elecraft books, see www.ke7x.com. > > > ________________________________ > From: Elecraft on behalf of lmarion > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 1:26 PM > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] K3S master power? > > Is there a K3S setting that will power on the P3, KAT500 and KPA500 when you power on the K3S ? > > Thanks either way, Leroy AB7CE > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to fcady at montana.edu > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ke8g at cox.net From vk1zzgary at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 20:36:18 2016 From: vk1zzgary at gmail.com (Gary) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 10:36:18 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S master power? In-Reply-To: <6CFC9F5B-F890-4079-96F4-5A2390F6C289@cox.net> References: <8QH61t00V45oxQM01QH7c8> <6CFC9F5B-F890-4079-96F4-5A2390F6C289@cox.net> Message-ID: <5765e914.4e18620a.d5551.2cac@mx.google.com> I must admit that when field testing the kat500, turning on the k3 DID cause a real issue, not heard of any change to that. However, the other day I turned the k3 on before I noticed the kat500 was not powered up. Thinking, oh what the heck, I hit the power on and all was well. Not wishing to create an issue, I powered both off and powered up in my normal way. Does this mean it doesn't matter which is powered first?...i have no info to go by. Perhaps Wayne may offer his thoughts, without his confirmation I will stick with my old method for now. Gary -----Original Message----- From: "KE8G" Sent: ?19/?06/?2016 10:29 AM To: "Cady, Fred" Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power? Doesn't that present a problem? I thought the KAT500 was supposed to be powered up before turning on the K3, or has that somehow been changed and I am stuck in the past? 73 de Jim - KE8G Sent from my iPad > On Jun 18, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Cady, Fred wrote: > > > I use a rigrunner 4010S that has 10 outlets and one that, when it detects a current draw from turning on the K3, turns on all the others. > > Cheers, > > Fred KE7X > > > For all KE7X Elecraft books, see www.ke7x.com. > > > ________________________________ > From: Elecraft on behalf of lmarion > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 1:26 PM > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] K3S master power? > > Is there a K3S setting that will power on the P3, KAT500 and KPA500 when you power on the K3S ? > > Thanks either way, Leroy AB7CE > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to fcady at montana.edu > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ke8g at cox.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vk1zzgary at gmail.com From fcady at montana.edu Sat Jun 18 20:49:08 2016 From: fcady at montana.edu (Cady, Fred) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 00:49:08 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S master power? In-Reply-To: <6CFC9F5B-F890-4079-96F4-5A2390F6C289@cox.net> References: <8QH61t00V45oxQM01QH7c8>, <6CFC9F5B-F890-4079-96F4-5A2390F6C289@cox.net> Message-ID: Yeah, that has been fixed but it worked before it was fixed. Cheers, Fred ________________________________ From: KE8G Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:28 PM To: Cady, Fred Cc: lmarion; Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power? Doesn't that present a problem? I thought the KAT500 was supposed to be powered up before turning on the K3, or has that somehow been changed and I am stuck in the past? 73 de Jim - KE8G Sent from my iPad > On Jun 18, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Cady, Fred wrote: > > > I use a rigrunner 4010S that has 10 outlets and one that, when it detects a current draw from turning on the K3, turns on all the others. > > Cheers, > > Fred KE7X > > > For all KE7X Elecraft books, see www.ke7x.com. > > > ________________________________ > From: Elecraft on behalf of lmarion > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 1:26 PM > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] K3S master power? > > Is there a K3S setting that will power on the P3, KAT500 and KPA500 when you power on the K3S ? > > Thanks either way, Leroy AB7CE > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to fcady at montana.edu > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ke8g at cox.net From Nolan at KI5IO.com Sat Jun 18 21:16:57 2016 From: Nolan at KI5IO.com (Nolan Kienitz) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 20:16:57 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Powered USB hub for multiple KUSB Message-ID: <000301d1c9c8$46676b40$d33641c0$@KI5IO.com> Jim, I have that same powered Anker 7-port USB hub (USB 3.0 version) and it is still in its box in my file cabinet. I ordered some time ago when it seemed I would going through USB hub in short order. I?ve not had to press it into use as of yet. I run everything off my laptop and a docking station, but have had to add the additional powered USB hub. So ? I have the same product, but have not tested it yet. 73, Nolan Kienitz KI5IO SKCC - 9532C NAQCC - 6230 FISTS - 14948 From bob at hogbytes.com Sat Jun 18 21:43:09 2016 From: bob at hogbytes.com (Bob N3MNT) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 18:43:09 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 S-meter segment stuck In-Reply-To: References: <015301d1c93a$0db95170$292bf450$@cox.net> Message-ID: <1466300589566-7618981.post@n2.nabble.com> >From page 12 if manual: If you reduce RF gain more than a few dB, a separate segment of the S-meter turns on as a reminder. The segment used varies with the amount of RF gain reduction. (A high S-meter reading may hide the RF gain indicator segment.) -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-S-meter-segment-stuck-tp7618953p7618981.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From dpbunte at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 21:57:14 2016 From: dpbunte at gmail.com (David Bunte) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 21:57:14 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S master power? In-Reply-To: References: <6CFC9F5B-F890-4079-96F4-5A2390F6C289@cox.net> Message-ID: I don't understand how that turns on the KPA500. Dave - K9FN On Jun 18, 2016 8:50 PM, "Cady, Fred" wrote: > Yeah, that has been fixed but it worked before it was fixed. > > Cheers, > > Fred > > > ________________________________ > From: KE8G > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:28 PM > To: Cady, Fred > Cc: lmarion; Elecraft Reflector > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power? > > Doesn't that present a problem? I thought the KAT500 was supposed to be > powered up before turning on the K3, or has that somehow been changed and I > am stuck in the past? > > 73 de Jim - KE8G > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jun 18, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Cady, Fred wrote: > > > > > > I use a rigrunner 4010S that has 10 outlets and one that, when it > detects a current draw from turning on the K3, turns on all the others. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Fred KE7X > > > > > > For all KE7X Elecraft books, see www.ke7x.com. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Elecraft on behalf of lmarion < > lmarion at mt.net> > > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 1:26 PM > > To: Elecraft Reflector > > Subject: [Elecraft] K3S master power? > > > > Is there a K3S setting that will power on the P3, KAT500 and KPA500 > when you power on the K3S ? > > > > Thanks either way, Leroy AB7CE > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to fcady at montana.edu > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to ke8g at cox.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dpbunte at gmail.com > From vk1zzgary at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 01:57:15 2016 From: vk1zzgary at gmail.com (Gary Gregory) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 15:57:15 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Minimum Drive? In-Reply-To: References: <68CA97B4-3EDF-46A1-85A3-FD6EFCC2AD90@me.com> Message-ID: or Tap the PWR button the kpa500 and watch the digital display on the amplifier. Gary On 16 June 2016 at 13:50, Jack Brindle wrote: > Fred?s assessment is correct - the output power resolution below 25 watts > is pretty low. But it is still putting out power, at least to a point. > There _is_ a lower limit to input power - it involves the ability of the > frequency counter to do its job. If the counter cannot get an accurate > count, it won?t be able to corroborate the frequency for the correct band > selection. This level is in the neighborhood of 1 watt, giving you some > range to play with. > > Enjoy playing with your KPA500! > > Jack, W6FB > > > > On Jun 15, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > > > > Hmmm ... I guess first question is, what's the problem? 25 W to 20W is > slightly less than 1 dB, 0.16 S-unit. Just run barefoot? > > > > The LED Power display on the KPA500 is digital. It "measures the > power," and puts it into one of a number of bins. If something is in the > bin, it lights the LED. If the measured power isn't high enough for the > lowest bin, all the bins are empty, no LED's light up, although there is > still RF being made. > > > > Measuring power with simple instruments is hard ... well, sort of > impossible. You can measure the voltage, but then you need to know the > impedance, a complex number, not easily measured with a DVM. You can > measure the current -- same problem. KPA500 is designed to emit 500W with > 25-30W input. I think you're pushing the envelope here and nothing is > wrong. > > > > 73, > > > > Fred K6DGW > > - Northern California Contest Club > > - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 > > - www.cqp.org > > > > On 6/15/2016 4:54 PM, James Bennett wrote: > >> I share my KPA500 with a K3 and a KX3. When I want to operate JT65 or > >> JT9 I normally run about 25 watts out, using the KX3 to drive the > >> amp. With the KX3 set to 1.8 watts out, the amp gives me 25; with 2.2 > >> watts from the KX3, I get 30 watts out from the amp. > >> > >> But, what if I want to run 20 watts? Or 15? When I back the KX3 power > >> level below 1.8, the KPA500 shows zero on the LED power display. Does > >> this mean it is no longer amplifying, or is it actually amplifying > >> but not enough for the circuitry to determine how much? > >> > >> Jim Bennett / W6JHB Folsom, CA > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to jackbrindle at me.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to vk1zzgary at gmail.com > -- *Gary - VK1ZZ, K3NHLSkype: Gary.VK1ZZhttp://www.qsl.net/vk1zz Motorhome Portable* *Miss Behavin'* *Elecraft K3KPA500FT #18KAT500FT #007* From glcazzola at alice.it Sun Jun 19 04:16:17 2016 From: glcazzola at alice.it (IK4EWX) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 01:16:17 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K3S losing swr-wattmeters indications on tx - please help Message-ID: <1466324177511-7618984.post@n2.nabble.com> I own a great K3S from a pair of months. It work great, dx, qsos, contest (just worked CQWPX, 1200 qsos). Just after bought it, sometime on cw transmission the swr-rf indications, the moving black dots, gone all blanked, all on the swr and on RF indications. I thought about rfi problems, but it happened even with dummy load. And with no swr on antenna. With atu inserted is seemed more rarely happen. This morning I have this problem happen at least on 14-18-21-24-28mhz, keying the rig with my bug, only with long dash and not with dots string. It is a rainy cloudy day, but I think that doesnt matter :) When using the paddle with internal keyer I havent the problem. It seem to happen only when keying at least 2-3 seconds long. When it happen, with the two measurements blanked, the rig really continue to transmit - I see regular power on my external Bird 43 wattmeter. Somebody had this problem and know how to solve it? Many thanks Ian IK4EWX -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3S-losing-swr-wattmeters-indications-on-tx-please-help-tp7618984.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ny9h at arrl.net Sun Jun 19 09:14:15 2016 From: ny9h at arrl.net (Bill Steffey NY9H) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 09:14:15 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] k3 various & intermittent errors on power on In-Reply-To: <3114ff4f-9677-be2e-907d-e6fe931f702c@audiosystemsgroup.com > References: <002401d1c053$8c921ee0$a5b65ca0$@biz> <3114ff4f-9677-be2e-907d-e6fe931f702c@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: k3 sn 22xx.... loaded option wise ( no 2mtr) last week vfo did not move receiver ??... and heard no sigs till after i changed bands and back/// upon pwr on get err codes.. first was KIO THEN IF1 PWR DN AND UP AGAIN ,,, KIO IF1 I RELOADED FW THINKING THAT WOULD BE EASIEST .. then got the kio error again/./// RADIO WORKS FINE sounds like i need to take it apart and deoxit everything front panel and reassemble. other ideas ???? From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Sun Jun 19 09:39:00 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 06:39:00 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S master power? In-Reply-To: References: <8QH61t00V45oxQM01QH7c8> <6CFC9F5B-F890-4079-96F4-5A2390F6C289@cox.net> Message-ID: Was there an announcement that this was fixed? On 6/18/2016 5:49 PM, Cady, Fred wrote: > Yeah, that has been fixed but it worked before it was fixed. > > Cheers, > > Fred > > From fcady at montana.edu Sun Jun 19 09:54:52 2016 From: fcady at montana.edu (Cady, Fred) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 13:54:52 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S master power? In-Reply-To: References: <6CFC9F5B-F890-4079-96F4-5A2390F6C289@cox.net> , Message-ID: Right. It doesn't. ________________________________ From: David Bunte Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 7:57 PM To: Cady, Fred Cc: KE8G; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power? I don't understand how that turns on the KPA500. Dave - K9FN On Jun 18, 2016 8:50 PM, "Cady, Fred" > wrote: Yeah, that has been fixed but it worked before it was fixed. Cheers, Fred ________________________________ From: KE8G > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:28 PM To: Cady, Fred Cc: lmarion; Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power? Doesn't that present a problem? I thought the KAT500 was supposed to be powered up before turning on the K3, or has that somehow been changed and I am stuck in the past? 73 de Jim - KE8G Sent from my iPad > On Jun 18, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Cady, Fred > wrote: > > > I use a rigrunner 4010S that has 10 outlets and one that, when it detects a current draw from turning on the K3, turns on all the others. > > Cheers, > > Fred KE7X > > > For all KE7X Elecraft books, see www.ke7x.com. > > > ________________________________ > From: Elecraft > on behalf of lmarion > > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 1:26 PM > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] K3S master power? > > Is there a K3S setting that will power on the P3, KAT500 and KPA500 when you power on the K3S ? > > Thanks either way, Leroy AB7CE > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to fcady at montana.edu > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ke8g at cox.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to dpbunte at gmail.com From w0eb at cox.net Sun Jun 19 09:55:00 2016 From: w0eb at cox.net (Jim Sheldon) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 13:55:00 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S master power? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If there way, I never saw it -- but I just tested it. Left the KAT500 off, powered up the K3S and no errors. Then powered on the KAT500 and it all worked just fine. Guess I'll have to look back through the "release notes" on the KAT500 firmware releases to see which one fixed it. Jim - W0EB ------ Original Message ------ From: "Wes Stewart" To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Sent: 6/19/2016 8:39:00 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power? >Was there an announcement that this was fixed? > >On 6/18/2016 5:49 PM, Cady, Fred wrote: >>Yeah, that has been fixed but it worked before it was fixed. >> >>Cheers, >> >>Fred >> >> > >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to w0eb at cox.net From fcady at montana.edu Sun Jun 19 10:00:28 2016 From: fcady at montana.edu (Cady, Fred) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 14:00:28 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S master power? In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: MCU 4.93 / DSP 2.83, 10-16-2014 * KAT500 POWER-ON REMINDER ON K3 DISPLAY: If a powered-off KAT500 is pulling the auxBus signal low when the K3 is first turned on, "TURN ON KAT500" is displayed. Previously this condition would lock up the K3 without explanation. ________________________________ From: Elecraft on behalf of Jim Sheldon Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 7:55 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power? If there way, I never saw it -- but I just tested it. Left the KAT500 off, powered up the K3S and no errors. Then powered on the KAT500 and it all worked just fine. Guess I'll have to look back through the "release notes" on the KAT500 firmware releases to see which one fixed it. Jim - W0EB ------ Original Message ------ From: "Wes Stewart" To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Sent: 6/19/2016 8:39:00 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power? >Was there an announcement that this was fixed? > >On 6/18/2016 5:49 PM, Cady, Fred wrote: >>Yeah, that has been fixed but it worked before it was fixed. >> >>Cheers, >> >>Fred >> >> > >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to w0eb at cox.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to fcady at montana.edu From w2kj at bellsouth.net Sun Jun 19 10:13:32 2016 From: w2kj at bellsouth.net (Joe W2KJ) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 10:13:32 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Utility for Mac computers Message-ID: Howdy Gang: Got my KX2 yesterday and been playing with it since then. Thought I would download the KX2 Utility to be ready for any firmware updates and found that only a Windows Utility is available so far. Am I correct or is there a Mac version of the KX2 Utility that I missed? 73, Joe W2KJ I QRP, therefore I am KX2 s/n 347 From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Sun Jun 19 10:59:44 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 07:59:44 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S master power? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5a53cabc-21fd-85c7-f4ae-a0edb45c0152@triconet.org> Hmm. Never noticed this since I've always kept power on the KAT500. But it does as it says...some of the time. At my age, I'm not going to turn this into another time wasting science project, but it seems to also depend on the state of the KPA500 (which the K3 weirdly turns on and off with alternate power on cycles). And I think it's not dependent on the ON/OFF state of the KAT500 but whether or not there is power "applied" to the KAT500. Wes N7WS On 6/19/2016 7:00 AM, Cady, Fred wrote: > MCU 4.93 / DSP 2.83, 10-16-2014 > > > * KAT500 POWER-ON REMINDER ON K3 DISPLAY: If a powered-off KAT500 is pulling the auxBus signal low when the K3 is first turned on, "TURN ON KAT500" is displayed. Previously this condition would lock up the K3 without explanation. > > > > ________________________________ > From: Elecraft on behalf of Jim Sheldon > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 7:55 AM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power? > > If there way, I never saw it -- but I just tested it. Left the KAT500 > off, powered up the K3S and no errors. Then powered on the KAT500 and > it all worked just fine. Guess I'll have to look back through the > "release notes" on the KAT500 firmware releases to see which one fixed > it. > > Jim - W0EB > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Wes Stewart" > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Sent: 6/19/2016 8:39:00 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power? > >> Was there an announcement that this was fixed? >> >> On 6/18/2016 5:49 PM, Cady, Fred wrote: >>> Yeah, that has been fixed but it worked before it was fixed. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Fred >>> >>> From ab2tc at arrl.net Sun Jun 19 11:26:40 2016 From: ab2tc at arrl.net (ab2tc) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 08:26:40 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Win4K3Suite now supports the SDRPlay SDR as a panadapter allowing 1.8MHz bandwidth! In-Reply-To: <0D61DBDD2842452CB01350D7410C93CF@tomsPC> References: <0D61DBDD2842452CB01350D7410C93CF@tomsPC> Message-ID: <1466350000796-7618992.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi Tom, Cute video, but I would like to see a connection diagram. The K3's IF output has to connect to some hardware, presumably with a USB connector at the other end? Is that the third party hardware alluded to? SDRs like that are all over the spectrum in price so the claim that this is the lowest cost panadapter solution is a little loose. Could I use my Afedri? I bought one a while ago and it was a fun toy for a while, but is now collecting dust. What do you mean by "requiring only refinement of the global offset"? Does it not do all the adjustments for modes and filter passband settings like the LP-Bridge/NaP3 combination does? AB2TC - Knut tomb18 wrote > Hello, > Win4K3Suite now supports the SDRPlay software defined radio when used as a > panadapter. This device provides the lowest cost panadapter available for > the K3 and K3S with an IF output and allows useable bandwidths up to > 1.8MHz! No sound card is required. > Unlike competing panadapter software for the K3, Win4K3Suite is truly plug > and play requiring only refinement of the global offset. All bands and > modes work without any configuration required. > This release of Win4K3Suite also now supports connection to a K3/0 > allowing remote control of your radio using the Elecraft K3/0 just like a > K3. > There are addition enhancements such as a doubling of the waterfall > resolution, support for the 15W output of the KX3 and a few bug fixes. > Win4K3Suite is the most comprehensive control program available for the > Elecraft radios and interfaces to all third party hardware and software > with minimum fuss. > You can see Win4K3Suite in operation here: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htVlc9x0IoU > A free full functioning download is available at va2fsq.com > 73 Tom > -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Win4K3Suite-now-supports-the-SDRPlay-SDR-as-a-panadapter-allowing-1-8MHz-bandwidth-tp7618962p7618992.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From lmarion at mt.net Sun Jun 19 11:34:51 2016 From: lmarion at mt.net (lmarion) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 09:34:51 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S master power? In-Reply-To: <5a53cabc-21fd-85c7-f4ae-a0edb45c0152@triconet.org> References: <5a53cabc-21fd-85c7-f4ae-a0edb45c0152@triconet.org> Message-ID: <96F2F882C397440F8728C6A3AC87F4A2@LeroyPC> I just purchased my K3 line in the last month, and did not know about the KAT turn on issue, nor did I see any documentation about turn on procedure. So, from the first use I have turned on the K3 then the P3, KAT500 and KPA500, with zero issues. Since powering on my KX3 turns on the PX3 and KXPA100/KXAT100 by menu selection, I assumed there was a similar menu option on the K3 line. It seems not to be, at least I have not found it, but I would like it if it did. Maybe it can be a firmware request? 73 Leroy AB7CE -----Original Message----- From: Wes Stewart Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 8:59 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power? Hmm. Never noticed this since I've always kept power on the KAT500. But it does as it says...some of the time. At my age, I'm not going to turn this into another time wasting science project, but it seems to also depend on the state of the KPA500 (which the K3 weirdly turns on and off with alternate power on cycles). And I think it's not dependent on the ON/OFF state of the KAT500 but whether or not there is power "applied" to the KAT500. Wes N7WS On 6/19/2016 7:00 AM, Cady, Fred wrote: > MCU 4.93 / DSP 2.83, 10-16-2014 > > > * KAT500 POWER-ON REMINDER ON K3 DISPLAY: If a powered-off KAT500 is > pulling the auxBus signal low when the K3 is first turned on, "TURN ON > KAT500" is displayed. Previously this condition would lock up the K3 > without explanation. > > > > ________________________________ > From: Elecraft on behalf of Jim Sheldon > > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 7:55 AM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power? > > If there way, I never saw it -- but I just tested it. Left the KAT500 > off, powered up the K3S and no errors. Then powered on the KAT500 and > it all worked just fine. Guess I'll have to look back through the > "release notes" on the KAT500 firmware releases to see which one fixed > it. > > Jim - W0EB > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Wes Stewart" > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Sent: 6/19/2016 8:39:00 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power? > >> Was there an announcement that this was fixed? >> >> On 6/18/2016 5:49 PM, Cady, Fred wrote: >>> Yeah, that has been fixed but it worked before it was fixed. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Fred >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to lmarion at mt.net From w1zk at comcast.net Sun Jun 19 11:34:56 2016 From: w1zk at comcast.net (Ralph McClintock) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 11:34:56 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FS new INRAD 700Hz 8 pole filter Message-ID: <602449b4-05f7-c2db-6fbc-fda54300a692@comcast.net> I have a custom built 700Hz CW/RTTY/Digital mode 8 pole filter from the latest INRAD order made by Gary KI4GGX in May 2016 available for sale. It is in original box, never installed. I bought two; really only needed one. Original cost $152 shipped USPS. Available for $130 shipped USPS Priority Mail. PayPal is Okay. Ralph w1ZK From lstavenhagen at hotmail.com Sun Jun 19 12:37:10 2016 From: lstavenhagen at hotmail.com (lstavenhagen) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 09:37:10 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K3S losing swr-wattmeters indications on tx - please help In-Reply-To: <1466324177511-7618984.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1466324177511-7618984.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1466354230857-7618995.post@n2.nabble.com> Yes, both my K3 and a K3s do this when I key them with my bugs or with my straight key. Even my K2's will behave strangely, though not quite as bad as the K3 and s. It's not a problem with the rig; it's just a contact bounce issue, so you'll just need a debouncing circuit. Either an external keyer (most of them have debouncing circuitry in them) or you can home-brew one. There are a couple good circuits in the list archives. A capacitor across the bug terminals will help, say a .1 uf, but beware that it'll key the rig momentarily when you first plug it in as the cap charges. 73, LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3S-losing-swr-wattmeters-indications-on-tx-please-help-tp7618984p7618995.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ken at arcomcontrollers.com Sun Jun 19 12:56:11 2016 From: ken at arcomcontrollers.com (Ken Arck) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 09:56:11 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Trying to gauge interest In-Reply-To: <1466354230857-7618995.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1466324177511-7618984.post@n2.nabble.com> <1466354230857-7618995.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Hello fellow 10 watt K3 owners! As my main use for my K3s is 6 meter and 144 EME operation, I bought the 10 watt version without the antenna tuner. I dabble a little on HF but not a whole lot. As such, the 10 watt, no tuner version suits my needs, although I thought it would be nice to be able to select 2 different antennas from the front panel (one for HF and the other for 6 meters). Spending several hundred dollars for the KATU seemed a bit overkill to me just to get front panel selection of 2 antennas. So looking at the schematic, I saw how easy it would be to modify my KANT board to allow 2 antenna selection. I bread boarded up my schematic and It works exactly as I expected. So I'm debating having some pc boards made to replace the entire KANT board but only if there is enough interest to justify doing so and I wanted to see how y'all felt about it. I project the bare boards would run around $20 to $25. You would take the parts from your existing KANT and reuse them on this new board, in addition to adding around $12 worth of new parts. So for under $40, you could have dual antenna selection on your non-KATU equipped K3. Any interest? Ken ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" From lew at n6lew.us Sun Jun 19 12:58:39 2016 From: lew at n6lew.us (Lewis Phelps) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 11:58:39 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Trying to gauge interest In-Reply-To: <20160619165640.CCA40149B303@mailman.qth.net> References: <1466324177511-7618984.post@n2.nabble.com> <1466354230857-7618995.post@n2.nabble.com> <20160619165640.CCA40149B303@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: <6626FC8D-5880-4834-8064-0B5BB9108E33@n6lew.us> Count me in!!! Lew N6LEW > On Jun 19, 2016, at 11:56 AM, Ken Arck wrote: > > Hello fellow 10 watt K3 owners! > > As my main use for my K3s is 6 meter and 144 EME operation, I bought the 10 watt version without the antenna tuner. I dabble a little on HF but not a whole lot. As such, the 10 watt, no tuner version suits my needs, although I thought it would be nice to be able to select 2 different antennas from the front panel (one for HF and the other for 6 meters). Spending several hundred dollars for the KATU seemed a bit overkill to me just to get front panel selection of 2 antennas. > > So looking at the schematic, I saw how easy it would be to modify my KANT board to allow 2 antenna selection. I bread boarded up my schematic and It works exactly as I expected. > > So I'm debating having some pc boards made to replace the entire KANT board but only if there is enough interest to justify doing so and I wanted to see how y'all felt about it. I project the bare boards would run around $20 to $25. You would take the parts from your existing KANT and reuse them on this new board, in addition to adding around $12 worth of new parts. So for under $40, you could have dual antenna selection on your non-KATU equipped K3. > > Any interest? > > Ken > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > President and CTO - Arcom Communications > Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. > http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ > Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and > we offer complete repeater packages! > AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 > http://www.irlp.net > "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to lew at n6lew.us > Lew Phelps N6LEW Pasadena, CA DM04wd Elecraft K3-10 / KXV144 / XV432 Yaesu FT-7800 Lew at N6LEW.US www.n6lew.us Generalized Law of Entropy: Sooner or later, everything that has been put together will fall apart. From kevinr at coho.net Sun Jun 19 14:30:39 2016 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr at coho.net) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 11:30:39 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement Message-ID: <000be5d3-c8e9-226b-fd27-f20c8195c729@coho.net> Propagation has been poor to OK this week with noise levels dropping. Signal strength is slightly better than it was last week but mostly the lower noise has helped comms. I just read an interesting article in an unexpected place: I had not heard about the European HAMNET before. 16 million IP addresses available and it will still work when the Internet backbone is down. With all of our innovation we are able to stay competitive for the bands we have been given. Cool! Please join us on: 14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday) 7045 kHz at 0100z Monday (6 PM PDT Sunday) 73, Kevin. KD5ONS From ab2tc at arrl.net Sun Jun 19 14:34:52 2016 From: ab2tc at arrl.net (ab2tc) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 11:34:52 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Trying to gauge interest In-Reply-To: <6626FC8D-5880-4834-8064-0B5BB9108E33@n6lew.us> References: <1466324177511-7618984.post@n2.nabble.com> <1466354230857-7618995.post@n2.nabble.com> <6626FC8D-5880-4834-8064-0B5BB9108E33@n6lew.us> Message-ID: <1466361292181-7618999.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, Is there any reason why this should not work with a K3/100 also? BTW, how do you convince the firmware that an ATU is installed? When I press "ANT" on my ATU-less K3/100 I get the message "NO ATU". If both these concerns can be put away, count me in, too. I have always been bummed that I can't get two antennas without installing the ATU which I do not want to do. I consider an ATU to be part of the antenna system and should be installed as close to the antenna as possible (my KAT 500 is at the far end of a 100' coax run). AB2TC - Knut PS. If this is a double posting, I apologize. I *hate* hot keys. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3S-losing-swr-wattmeters-indications-on-tx-please-help-tp7618984p7618999.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From cautery at montac.com Sun Jun 19 15:00:06 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 14:00:06 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] FS new INRAD 700Hz 8 pole filter In-Reply-To: <602449b4-05f7-c2db-6fbc-fda54300a692@comcast.net> References: <602449b4-05f7-c2db-6fbc-fda54300a692@comcast.net> Message-ID: If I didn't already have a matched pair, I'd grab it from you. For benefit of the other prospective buyers, what is the offset marked on this batch? ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 6/19/2016 10:34 AM, Ralph McClintock wrote: > I have a custom built 700Hz CW/RTTY/Digital mode 8 pole filter from > the latest INRAD order made by Gary KI4GGX in May 2016 available for > sale. It is in original box, never installed. I bought two; really > only needed one. Original cost $152 shipped USPS. Available for $130 > shipped USPS Priority Mail. PayPal is Okay. > Ralph w1ZK > From n7xy at n7xy.net Sun Jun 19 15:20:46 2016 From: n7xy at n7xy.net (Bob Nielsen) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 12:20:46 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Utility for Mac computers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14e4723b-0b70-ca68-f412-93781b132c90@n7xy.net> My KX2 is in the mail and should arrive tomorrow. It's a good thing I installed Windows in Boot Camp on my Mac. Hopefully the native OS X version of KX2 utility will show up soon. 73, Bob N7XY On 6/19/16 7:13 AM, Joe W2KJ wrote: > Howdy Gang: > > Got my KX2 yesterday and been playing with it since then. > > Thought I would download the KX2 Utility to be ready for any firmware updates and found that only a Windows Utility is available so far. > > Am I correct or is there a Mac version of the KX2 Utility that I missed? > > 73, Joe W2KJ > I QRP, therefore I am > KX2 s/n 347 > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list From ppauly at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 15:26:30 2016 From: ppauly at gmail.com (Peter Pauly) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 15:26:30 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Safe to use a mono plug on the KX2? Message-ID: Is it safe to use a mono 1/8 inch plug on the speaker jack of the KX2? Would that short the two channels together? From g8kbvdave at googlemail.com Sun Jun 19 15:43:55 2016 From: g8kbvdave at googlemail.com (Dave B) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 20:43:55 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5766F5FB.4060504@googlemail.com> Yes, it will probably work when everything else has failed, so long as power is still good. But... Here in the UK, HAMNET still has a LONG way to go, not because of any technical issue, but we are generally not allowed to carry third party (and certainly no non-HAM) traffic, and not interconnected with the public internet (or telephone) without a "Notice of variation" to our licences. And they can be a pain to get. HAMNET is a great idea, but not the first. The Eastern Europeans have had a high speed data backbone (10MBPS afaik) running up and down the Balkans for some years, using RF, WiFi and NIR systems. Sadly, that will never happen in the UK, due to the monopoly of BT, and the lack of understanding of the RSGB, ETC and Ofcom. However, small scale experiments have been conducted, and would appear to be successful. Not that it helps any.... Shame. One day perhaps, but not any-time soon, in the UK at least.. 73. Dave G0WBX. On 19/06/16 20:20, elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net wrote: > Message: 24 > Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 11:30:39 -0700 > From:"kevinr at coho.net" > To:elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement > Message-ID:<000be5d3-c8e9-226b-fd27-f20c8195c729 at coho.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Propagation has been poor to OK this week with noise levels dropping. > Signal strength is slightly better than it was last week but mostly the > lower noise has helped comms. > > I just read an interesting article in an unexpected place: > > > > I had not heard about the European HAMNET before. 16 million IP > addresses available and it will still work when the Internet backbone is > down. From mzilmer at roadrunner.com Sun Jun 19 15:46:18 2016 From: mzilmer at roadrunner.com (Matt Zilmer) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 12:46:18 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Utility for Mac computers In-Reply-To: <14e4723b-0b70-ca68-f412-93781b132c90@n7xy.net> References: <14e4723b-0b70-ca68-f412-93781b132c90@n7xy.net> Message-ID: The Mac- and Linux-based KX2 utility programs are in development now and should be released later this month or in early July. 73, Matt Zilmer KX2 Project Manager Elecraft, Inc. On 6/19/2016 12:20 PM, Bob Nielsen wrote: > My KX2 is in the mail and should arrive tomorrow. It's a good thing I > installed Windows in Boot Camp on my Mac. Hopefully the native OS X > version of KX2 utility will show up soon. > > 73, Bob N7XY > > On 6/19/16 7:13 AM, Joe W2KJ wrote: >> Howdy Gang: >> >> Got my KX2 yesterday and been playing with it since then. >> >> Thought I would download the KX2 Utility to be ready for any firmware >> updates and found that only a Windows Utility is available so far. >> >> Am I correct or is there a Mac version of the KX2 Utility that I missed? >> >> 73, Joe W2KJ >> I QRP, therefore I am >> KX2 s/n 347 >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to mzilmer at roadrunner.com From g8kbvdave at googlemail.com Sun Jun 19 15:46:50 2016 From: g8kbvdave at googlemail.com (Dave B) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 20:46:50 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5766F6AA.80401@googlemail.com> If it was (re)written in "Java" (NOT "Javascript") then it would work anywhere, just like YAAC. All you'd need, is the JRE for your particular OS, be it Windows, Linux, MAC or ??? 73. Dave G0WBX. On 19/06/16 20:20, elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net wrote: > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Utility for Mac computers From w5sum at comcast.net Sun Jun 19 16:20:52 2016 From: w5sum at comcast.net (w5sum at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 15:20:52 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KSYN3AUPG In-Reply-To: <5766F6AA.80401@googlemail.com> References: <5766F6AA.80401@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <54F2A03AD04F4977A1A01D87A853638D@MININTMC1HLDC> I ordered my K3 in February 2015 and received S/N 8958 on April 8th. I understand looking at the Elecraft Website, that any K3's shipped starting 1/23/2015, s/n 8801 and later, had the new KSYN3AUPG included. I ordered my K3 loaded out, with the SINGLE exception of the 144mhz option. So.. basically, do I understand I pretty much have a K3S? If not, what can I do to upgrade? Or is it even worth the trouble? I'm very pleased with my K3, and have worked 290 countries with it. I'm primarily a DX chaser, however I do work some of the contests, mainly to pick up country/band combo's I have yet to work 73 and God bless Ronnie W5SUM From frantz at pwpconsult.com Sun Jun 19 16:32:06 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 13:32:06 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KSYN3AUPG In-Reply-To: <54F2A03AD04F4977A1A01D87A853638D@MININTMC1HLDC> Message-ID: Ronnie - Look on the order page on the Elecraft web site . There are five upgrades for the K3 to bring it close to the K3S. They are: KIO3BUPKT KIO3B Upgrade Kit for K3 - Three Board Set. Includes new KIO3B Main, Analog and Digital boards. Adds USB Sound and Comm port capability. Also includes the standard KIO3 Analog and digital I/O. CBLP3Y P3 to KIO3B RJ45 cable. This cable supports full operation of the USB comm port on the K3S/KIO3B through the P3. Note: This cable is included with new P3s. KSYN3AUPG KSYN3A Synthesizer Upgrade Kit for K3, KRX3. KXV3B RX Ant., 2nd Pre-Amp, IF Out and Xverter Interface upgrade for earlier K3 radios. Adds 2nd preamp for 12,10,6 M NEOGRIP Neoprene Soft Grip Ring used on K3S VFO A knob. Upgrade for K3 VFO A knob. 73 Bill AE6JV On 6/19/16 at 1:20 PM, w5sum at comcast.net wrote: >I ordered my K3 in February 2015 and received S/N 8958 on >April 8th. I understand looking at the Elecraft Website, that >any K3's shipped starting 1/23/2015, s/n 8801 and later, had >the new KSYN3AUPG included. I ordered my K3 loaded out, with >the SINGLE exception of >the 144mhz option. >So.. basically, do I understand I pretty much have a K3S? If >not, what can I do to upgrade? Or is it even worth the trouble? > >I'm very pleased with my K3, and have worked 290 countries with >it. I'm primarily a DX chaser, however I do work some of the >contests, mainly to pick up country/band combo's I have yet to work --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz |"We used to quip that "password" is the most common 408-356-8506 | password. Now it's 'password1.' Who said users haven't www.pwpconsult.com | learned anything about security?" -- Bruce Schneier From nr4c at widomaker.com Sun Jun 19 16:33:46 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 16:33:46 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Safe to use a mono plug on the KX2? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9F5D31EF-63D0-4BC3-8CA1-D55AA183E368@widomaker.com> It would short right channel to ground. Why would you want to do this? Doesn't the KX2 have similar audio enhancements as the KX3? You will lose the Dual-Watch feature and ability the hear VFO A & VFO B in separate ears with speakers or phones. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jun 19, 2016, at 3:26 PM, Peter Pauly wrote: > > Is it safe to use a mono 1/8 inch plug on the speaker jack of the KX2? > Would that short the two channels together? > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Sun Jun 19 17:10:13 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 14:10:13 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Trying to gauge interest In-Reply-To: <1466361292181-7618999.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1466324177511-7618984.post@n2.nabble.com> <1466354230857-7618995.post@n2.nabble.com> <6626FC8D-5880-4834-8064-0B5BB9108E33@n6lew.us> <1466361292181-7618999.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: Looks like you can tell the K3(S) that the ATU is installed and the ANT1/ANT2 option is enabled:-) I might be interested too. On 6/19/2016 11:34 AM, ab2tc wrote: > Hi, > > Is there any reason why this should not work with a K3/100 also? BTW, how do > you convince the firmware that an ATU is installed? When I press "ANT" on my > ATU-less K3/100 I get the message "NO ATU". If both these concerns can be > put away, count me in, too. I have always been bummed that I can't get two > antennas without installing the ATU which I do not want to do. I consider an > ATU to be part of the antenna system and should be installed as close to the > antenna as possible (my KAT 500 is at the far end of a 100' coax run). > > AB2TC - Knut > > PS. If this is a double posting, I apologize. I *hate* hot keys. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3S-losing-swr-wattmeters-indications-on-tx-please-help-tp7618984p7618999.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wes_n7ws at triconet.org > From wunder at wunderwood.org Sun Jun 19 17:47:03 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 14:47:03 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Safe to use a mono plug on the KX2? In-Reply-To: <9F5D31EF-63D0-4BC3-8CA1-D55AA183E368@widomaker.com> References: <9F5D31EF-63D0-4BC3-8CA1-D55AA183E368@widomaker.com> Message-ID: <9C0B709C-5F06-4A38-825F-A2E25CA6D36D@wunderwood.org> Get a basic stereo-to-L/R splitter cable and plug your phones into the preferred mono jack. This one is $6, but they should be easy to find locally. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B000068O5H/ wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jun 19, 2016, at 1:33 PM, Nr4c wrote: > > It would short right channel to ground. Why would you want to do this? > > Doesn't the KX2 have similar audio enhancements as the KX3? You will lose the Dual-Watch feature and ability the hear VFO A & VFO B in separate ears with speakers or phones. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On Jun 19, 2016, at 3:26 PM, Peter Pauly wrote: >> >> Is it safe to use a mono 1/8 inch plug on the speaker jack of the KX2? >> Would that short the two channels together? >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From ken at arcomcontrollers.com Sun Jun 19 16:37:16 2016 From: ken at arcomcontrollers.com (Ken Arck) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 13:37:16 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Trying to gauge interest In-Reply-To: <1466361292181-7618999.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1466324177511-7618984.post@n2.nabble.com> <1466354230857-7618995.post@n2.nabble.com> <6626FC8D-5880-4834-8064-0B5BB9108E33@n6lew.us> <1466361292181-7618999.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: If you look at the schematics of the KATU, you'll see the chain of shift registers on the KATU actually sends a signal back to the RF board. So the CPU sends the command to the KATU and if the ATU doesn't respond (via the MISO3 line), the CPU interprets that to mean the KATU isn't present As for handling 100 watts, I don't see a problem as I use the exact same OMRON relay the KATU does and I considered inductance in the pc layout Ken At 11:34 AM 6/19/2016, ab2tc wrote: >Hi, > >Is there any reason why this should not work with a K3/100 also? BTW, how do >you convince the firmware that an ATU is installed? When I press "ANT" on my >ATU-less K3/100 I get the message "NO ATU". If both these concerns can be >put away, count me in, too. I have always been bummed that I can't get two >antennas without installing the ATU which I do not want to do. I consider an >ATU to be part of the antenna system and should be installed as close to the >antenna as possible (my KAT 500 is at the far end of a 100' coax run). > >AB2TC - Knut > >PS. If this is a double posting, I apologize. I *hate* hot keys. > > > >-- >View this message in context: >http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3S-losing-swr-wattmeters-indications-on-tx-please-help-tp7618984p7618999.html >Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to ken at arcomcontrollers.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" From kc6cnn at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 19:06:47 2016 From: kc6cnn at gmail.com (KC6CNN) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 16:06:47 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 5.50 Message-ID: <1466377607882-7619011.post@n2.nabble.com> The Firmware 5.50 has been beta for over a month. Will it be coming out as latest production anytime soon? Thank you Gerald KC6CNN ----- KC6CNN - Gerald K1 # 0014 K2 # 5486 K3 # 6294 KX3 # 757 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-firmware-5-50-tp7619011.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From kc6cnn at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 19:11:51 2016 From: kc6cnn at gmail.com (KC6CNN) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 16:11:51 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 5.50 In-Reply-To: <1466377607882-7619011.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1466377607882-7619011.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1466377911540-7619012.post@n2.nabble.com> I just noticed that the KAT500 and KPA500 also have betas that are old but still not latest production. ----- KC6CNN - Gerald K1 # 0014 K2 # 5486 K3 # 6294 KX3 # 757 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-firmware-5-50-tp7619011p7619012.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From w1zk at comcast.net Sun Jun 19 21:04:27 2016 From: w1zk at comcast.net (Ralph McClintock) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 21:04:27 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] INRAD 700Hz filter is Sold Message-ID: <91d1f38e-864e-c445-2317-6342bc621576@comcast.net> Thanks for all the interest. The filter has been sold. W1ZK -- Secretary USS PUEBLO Veterans Association Life Member American Ex-Prisoners of War Life Member Disabled American Veterans From rickv11 at frontier.com Sun Jun 19 22:00:19 2016 From: rickv11 at frontier.com (Richard Vincent) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 22:00:19 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 keying AFSK? Message-ID: I recently purchased a new to me K3 which I am in the learning curve. I am trying to get the K3 to key RTTY in AFSK mode and not having any luck. I have Fred's book and have followed the steps with still no keying. I am using DM-780. VOX is on, sound set correct (I think). Anyone have any idea of what I am missing? I would like to get this working for FD. From km4ik.ian at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 22:08:32 2016 From: km4ik.ian at gmail.com (Ian Kahn) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 22:08:32 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 keying AFSK? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Richard, What do you have set as the keying method in DM-780? I use it extensively and have never had an issue. I believe I have it set to use HRD keying, which does not require the use of vox for keying. Hope this helps. 73 de, Ian, KM4IK On Jun 19, 2016 10:02 PM, "Richard Vincent" wrote: > I recently purchased a new to me K3 which I am in the learning curve. I am > trying to get the K3 to key RTTY in AFSK mode and not having any luck. I > have Fred's book and have followed the steps with still no keying. I am > using DM-780. VOX is on, sound set correct (I think). Anyone have any idea > of what I am missing? I would like to get this working for FD. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to km4ik.ian at gmail.com > From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sun Jun 19 22:39:44 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 22:39:44 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 keying AFSK? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Can you decode RTTY signals? If not, get that working as a first step. Is the soundcard device selected in HRD the same one that is connected to the K3 Line-In and Line Out jacks? The soundcard LINE OUT (or SPKR) should connect to the K3 LINE IN. Do you have the computer soundcard output level sliders set to 75% or greater? Set the MIC SEL in the K3 menu to LINEIN. Adjust the K3 "MIC LEVEL" (actually the Line-in level) so you have 4 bars solid with the 5th bar flashing on the ALC meter. Turn on VOX and it should transmit. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/19/2016 10:00 PM, Richard Vincent wrote: > I recently purchased a new to me K3 which I am in the learning curve. I am trying to get the K3 to key RTTY in AFSK mode and not having any luck. I have Fred's book and have followed the steps with still no keying. I am using DM-780. VOX is on, sound set correct (I think). Anyone have any idea of what I am missing? I would like to get this working for FD. > From vk1zzgary at gmail.com Sun Jun 19 23:19:12 2016 From: vk1zzgary at gmail.com (Gary) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 13:19:12 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] Trying to gauge interest In-Reply-To: <6626FC8D-5880-4834-8064-0B5BB9108E33@n6lew.us> References: <1466324177511-7618984.post@n2.nabble.com> <1466354230857-7618995.post@n2.nabble.com> <20160619165640.CCA40149B303@mailman.qth.net> <6626FC8D-5880-4834-8064-0B5BB9108E33@n6lew.us> Message-ID: <576760c2.8227620a.969c8.ffffc90d@mx.google.com> I have wondered often why Elecraft have not done so but maybe antenna swtches are common enough they didn't see a need? Gar -----Original Message----- From: "Lewis Phelps" Sent: ?20/?06/?2016 3:00 AM To: "Ken Arck" Cc: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Trying to gauge interest Count me in!!! Lew N6LEW > On Jun 19, 2016, at 11:56 AM, Ken Arck wrote: > > Hello fellow 10 watt K3 owners! > > As my main use for my K3s is 6 meter and 144 EME operation, I bought the 10 watt version without the antenna tuner. I dabble a little on HF but not a whole lot. As such, the 10 watt, no tuner version suits my needs, although I thought it would be nice to be able to select 2 different antennas from the front panel (one for HF and the other for 6 meters). Spending several hundred dollars for the KATU seemed a bit overkill to me just to get front panel selection of 2 antennas. > > So looking at the schematic, I saw how easy it would be to modify my KANT board to allow 2 antenna selection. I bread boarded up my schematic and It works exactly as I expected. > > So I'm debating having some pc boards made to replace the entire KANT board but only if there is enough interest to justify doing so and I wanted to see how y'all felt about it. I project the bare boards would run around $20 to $25. You would take the parts from your existing KANT and reuse them on this new board, in addition to adding around $12 worth of new parts. So for under $40, you could have dual antenna selection on your non-KATU equipped K3. > > Any interest? > > Ken > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > President and CTO - Arcom Communications > Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. > http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ > Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and > we offer complete repeater packages! > AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 > http://www.irlp.net > "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to lew at n6lew.us > Lew Phelps N6LEW Pasadena, CA DM04wd Elecraft K3-10 / KXV144 / XV432 Yaesu FT-7800 Lew at N6LEW.US www.n6lew.us Generalized Law of Entropy: Sooner or later, everything that has been put together will fall apart. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vk1zzgary at gmail.com From frantz at pwpconsult.com Sun Jun 19 23:21:37 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 20:21:37 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3/PX3 Lines on the screen Message-ID: Probably I'll kick myself for asking a dumb question, but here goes. Receiving on a dummy load, I am getting a pattern of lines on the PX3 screen with my KX3. There are 5 strong lines and 2 week lines symmetrically on either side of the green bar (tuned frequency). When I tune the KX3, they move with the green bar. They move down by about 8 KHz when I switch RX SHFT to 8.0 from NOR. The closest lines to the tuned frequency are about 12 KHz above and below it. The other lines are not evenly spaced, but are spaced about 3-6 KHz apart. Turning RX ISO on has no effect. When I attach an antenna, I get normal results from signals on the band. The signals are not distributed symmetrically they way they would be if the I/Q cable was not inserted all the way on the PX3 and KX3. (And I pushed really hard too.) Any ideas of what is going on? Any way to "cure" it? Thanks in advance. 73 Bill AE6JV ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Since the IBM Selectric, keyboards have gotten 408-356-8506 | steadily worse. Now we have touchscreen keyboards. www.pwpconsult.com | Can we make something even worse? From eric at elecraft.com Mon Jun 20 00:21:56 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 21:21:56 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] k3 various & intermittent errors on power on In-Reply-To: <20160619131512.10F4C2EB4210@mailman.qth.net> References: <002401d1c053$8c921ee0$a5b65ca0$@biz> <3114ff4f-9677-be2e-907d-e6fe931f702c@audiosystemsgroup.com> <20160619131512.10F4C2EB4210@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: <22519BD8-22D5-4414-8C44-4F4F88F6991B@elecraft.com> Bill, Call our support guys first thing Monday. 73, Eric elecraft.com _..._ > On Jun 19, 2016, at 6:14 AM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote: > > k3 sn 22xx.... loaded option wise ( no 2mtr) > > last week vfo did not move receiver ??... > and heard no sigs till after i changed bands and back/// > > upon pwr on get err codes.. > first was KIO > > THEN IF1 > > PWR DN AND UP AGAIN ,,, > > KIO > IF1 > > I RELOADED FW THINKING THAT WOULD BE EASIEST .. > then got the kio error again/./// > > RADIO WORKS FINE > > sounds like i need to take it apart and deoxit everything front panel and > reassemble. > other ideas ???? > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com > From cautery at montac.com Mon Jun 20 00:55:59 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 23:55:59 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s Message-ID: I am seeing a repetitive RFI source every 34kHz from somewhere less than 20MHz thru 30MHz plus... See attached image. The amplitude alternates high/low every other appearance. The overall amplitude is higher or lower depending on the location within the spectrum.... Almost a sine wave function with a VERY long period. Anyone want to hazard a guess as to what is causing it? I disco'd every switch-mode power supply in the shack and adjacent rooms (couldn't do the whole house as the XYL was home).... EXCEPT my Powerwerx SS-30DV PS running the K3s/P3. Don't have a battery to run the radio on right now... -- ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 From cautery at montac.com Mon Jun 20 01:02:15 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 00:02:15 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No images in reflector posts... Here's the link to the RFI I'm seeing on the P3 in 160 kHz of the 10+MHz bandwidth I checked. http://montac.com/images/shack/34kHz_RFI_-20MHz_to_30MHz_plus.jpg Original post below: ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 6/19/2016 11:55 PM, Clay Autery wrote: > I am seeing a repetitive RFI source every 34kHz from somewhere less than > 20MHz thru 30MHz plus... > > See attached image. The amplitude alternates high/low every other > appearance. The overall amplitude is higher or lower depending on the > location within the spectrum.... Almost a sine wave function with a > VERY long period. > > Anyone want to hazard a guess as to what is causing it? I disco'd every > switch-mode power supply in the shack and adjacent rooms (couldn't do > the whole house as the XYL was home).... EXCEPT my Powerwerx SS-30DV PS > running the K3s/P3. > > Don't have a battery to run the radio on right now... > > > From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Mon Jun 20 01:05:01 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 22:05:01 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56683466-63b0-8d29-b3b0-adbec73250d2@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Sun,6/19/2016 9:55 PM, Clay Autery wrote: > Anyone want to hazard a guess as to what is causing it? I disco'd every > switch-mode power supply in the shack and adjacent rooms (couldn't do > the whole house as the XYL was home).... EXCEPT my Powerwerx SS-30DV PS > running the K3s/P3. Digital circuitry or SMPS are the most likely cause. See my latest tutorial, linked below, to learn how to tell which is which. 34 kHz suggests a 17 kHz square wave. http://k9yc.com/KillingReceiveNoise.pdf 73, Jim K9YC From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Mon Jun 20 01:06:47 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 22:06:47 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Sun,6/19/2016 10:02 PM, Clay Autery wrote: > http://montac.com/images/shack/34kHz_RFI_-20MHz_to_30MHz_plus.jpg The traces drifting in frequency and modulated by noise tells us it's a switching power supply. 73, Jim K9YC From cautery at montac.com Mon Jun 20 01:38:58 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 00:38:58 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> That's what I figured... Now to locate which one of the 50+ that are present in this house alone... They actually appear all the way down into the 14MHz range... Always there. Tonight they were relatively stable in location... drifting slowly, and even changed directions once. At other times, the cyclical migration up or down the band is faster and sometimes random, switching directions repetitively and without discernible (to me) pattern. Off to read... Hopefully it is not the power supply I use for the K3s/P3... 73, ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 6/20/2016 12:06 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > On Sun,6/19/2016 10:02 PM, Clay Autery wrote: >> http://montac.com/images/shack/34kHz_RFI_-20MHz_to_30MHz_plus.jpg > > The traces drifting in frequency and modulated by noise tells us it's > a switching power supply. > > 73, Jim K9YC From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Mon Jun 20 02:52:25 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 07:52:25 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3/PX3 Lines on the screen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <65C7EE00-B55E-4A07-8D8F-878928CE6314@yahoo.co.uk> Bill, That's normal and nothing to worry about as band noise covers it. There was a posting about this before, that I can't locate just now. It is mainly from internally produced noise from the switched mode regulators in the PX3 apparently. 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 20 Jun 2016, at 04:21, Bill Frantz wrote: > > Probably I'll kick myself for asking a dumb question, but here goes. > > Receiving on a dummy load, I am getting a pattern of lines on the PX3 screen with my KX3. There are 5 strong lines and 2 week lines symmetrically on either side of the green bar (tuned frequency). When I tune the KX3, they move with the green bar. They move down by about 8 KHz when I switch RX SHFT to 8.0 from NOR. The closest lines to the tuned frequency are about 12 KHz above and below it. The other lines are not evenly spaced, but are spaced about 3-6 KHz apart. Turning RX ISO on has no effect. > > When I attach an antenna, I get normal results from signals on the band. The signals are not distributed symmetrically they way they would be if the I/Q cable was not inserted all the way on the PX3 and KX3. (And I pushed really hard too.) > > Any ideas of what is going on? Any way to "cure" it? > > Thanks in advance. > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz | Since the IBM Selectric, keyboards have gotten > 408-356-8506 | steadily worse. Now we have touchscreen keyboards. > www.pwpconsult.com | Can we make something even worse? > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk From dave at nk7z.net Mon Jun 20 06:28:45 2016 From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 03:28:45 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> Message-ID: <1466418525.3308.10.camel@nk7z.net> On Mon, 2016-06-20 at 00:38 -0500, Clay Autery wrote: > That's what I figured... Now to locate which one of the 50+ that are > present in this house alone... > > They actually appear all the way down into the 14MHz range...??Always > there.??Tonight they were relatively stable in location... drifting > slowly, and even changed directions once.??At other times, the > cyclical migration up or down the band is faster and sometimes random, > switching directions repetitively and without discernible (to me) > pattern. >? Sometimes you can "get a feeling", where they are located by watching the timing... ?Do they drift in the morning, and after sunset, if so, the SMPS might be outside, on in a non temperature controlled area, if not it might be inside... ? Do they happen at set intervals? ?Time to do the power off test to your home and see if they go away... ?If you are lucky they will... If they do, bring the house up one breaker at a time, looking for the RFI to start... ?If not, then set up S-Meter Lite, look for patterns, then after a week or so of recording what is happening, take out a loop and start looking for it... -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net From dave at nk7z.net Mon Jun 20 06:46:52 2016 From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 03:46:52 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <56683466-63b0-8d29-b3b0-adbec73250d2@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <56683466-63b0-8d29-b3b0-adbec73250d2@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <1466419612.3308.14.camel@nk7z.net> On Sun, 2016-06-19 at 22:05 -0700, Jim Brown wrote: > Digital circuitry or SMPS are the most likely cause. See my latest? > tutorial, linked below, to learn how to tell which is which. 34 kHz? > suggests a 17 kHz square wave. > > http://k9yc.com/KillingReceiveNoise.pdf > > 73, Jim K9YC Jim, The last page says it is page 17 of 19... ?What's on the last 2 pages? BTW, nice job on the new paper on RFI! --? 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net From pubx1 at af2z.net Mon Jun 20 07:45:43 2016 From: pubx1 at af2z.net (Drew AF2Z) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 07:45:43 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> Message-ID: <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> I have a Powerwerx SS-30DV also. I think it is unlikely that this PS would put out that kind of trash. I've found it to be very quiet even listening with an endfed wire antenna within inches of it. 73, Drew AF2Z On 06/20/16 01:38, Clay Autery wrote: > That's what I figured... Now to locate which one of the 50+ that are > present in this house alone... > > They actually appear all the way down into the 14MHz range... Always > there. Tonight they were relatively stable in location... drifting > slowly, and even changed directions once. At other times, the cyclical > migration up or down the band is faster and sometimes random, switching > directions repetitively and without discernible (to me) pattern. > > Off to read... Hopefully it is not the power supply I use for the K3s/P3... > > > 73, > > ______________________ > Clay Autery, KY5G > MONTAC Enterprises > (318) 518-1389 > From mveeneman at yahoo.com Mon Jun 20 07:59:47 2016 From: mveeneman at yahoo.com (Marc Veeneman) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 07:59:47 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> Message-ID: <768828B9-AF69-479E-8E38-2FBEEC234B0F@yahoo.com> My PowerWerx supply DOES generate those drifting noise spikes, ruining CW on 80 meters for me. I have yet to find a 13.8 volt switching supply that can provide 25 quiet amps. I've gone entirely to batteries rather than use quiet but inefficient linear supplies. Now I only have SMPS noise when recharging the batteries. So I leave that for non-hamming hours. More testing is needed, but I did find one SMPS for LiFePO4 batteries that seemed RFI free. It's an Optimate brand product but only produces 5 amps. -- Marc WW8SDG > On Jun 20, 2016, at 7:45 AM, Drew AF2Z wrote: > > I have a Powerwerx SS-30DV also. I think it is unlikely that this PS would put out that kind of trash. I've found it to be very quiet even listening with an endfed wire antenna within inches of it. > > 73, > Drew > AF2Z > > >> On 06/20/16 01:38, Clay Autery wrote: >> That's what I figured... Now to locate which one of the 50+ that are >> present in this house alone... >> >> They actually appear all the way down into the 14MHz range... Always >> there. Tonight they were relatively stable in location... drifting >> slowly, and even changed directions once. At other times, the cyclical >> migration up or down the band is faster and sometimes random, switching >> directions repetitively and without discernible (to me) pattern. >> >> Off to read... Hopefully it is not the power supply I use for the K3s/P3... >> >> >> 73, >> >> ______________________ >> Clay Autery, KY5G >> MONTAC Enterprises >> (318) 518-1389 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to mveeneman at yahoo.com From pubx1 at af2z.net Mon Jun 20 08:45:45 2016 From: pubx1 at af2z.net (Drew AF2Z) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 08:45:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <768828B9-AF69-479E-8E38-2FBEEC234B0F@yahoo.com> References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <768828B9-AF69-479E-8E38-2FBEEC234B0F@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5767E579.3000108@af2z.net> I do also have multiple turns of the p/s power cord wound through a large toroid, just for good measure. I investigated the Powerwerx at one time when I was having some RFI problems, comparing it side by side with a linear supply, and just didn't find the ss-30dv to be a problem. My main problem was the DSL modem, and perhaps copper phone lines, now eliminated by Fios internet. 73, Drew AF2Z On 06/20/16 07:59, Marc Veeneman wrote: > My PowerWerx supply DOES generate those drifting noise spikes, ruining CW on 80 meters for me. I have yet to find a 13.8 volt switching supply that can provide 25 quiet amps. I've gone entirely to batteries rather than use quiet but inefficient linear supplies. > > Now I only have SMPS noise when recharging the batteries. So I leave that for non-hamming hours. More testing is needed, but I did find one SMPS for LiFePO4 batteries that seemed RFI free. It's an Optimate brand product but only produces 5 amps. From karlerb7 at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 08:59:05 2016 From: karlerb7 at gmail.com (KarlErb) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 08:59:05 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3-2M power output Message-ID: <127D18C5-77B2-4214-82A6-76FF2EA2D1BA@gmail.com> Has anyone verified the module's output between 0.1 and 0.5 watts? My (inexpensive) external meter tracks the KX3 settings above 0.6 but not below. Thanks, Karl W3BF From mtkoszew at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 09:17:24 2016 From: mtkoszew at gmail.com (Marty Koszewski) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 09:17:24 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4ABFB5D5-64CA-4DB6-ABDB-7DDA9FC35686@gmail.com> I had the same issue. It was caused by my Powerwerx SS-30DV. After trying a number of things to mitigate the noise, I ended up replacing the power supply with a Samlex SEC 1235M. Noise gone. Problem solved. Marty - K1MTK ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 20 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 23:55:59 -0500 From: Clay Autery To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I am seeing a repetitive RFI source every 34kHz from somewhere less than 20MHz thru 30MHz plus... See attached image. The amplitude alternates high/low every other appearance. The overall amplitude is higher or lower depending on the location within the spectrum.... Almost a sine wave function with a VERY long period. Anyone want to hazard a guess as to what is causing it? I disco'd every switch-mode power supply in the shack and adjacent rooms (couldn't do the whole house as the XYL was home).... EXCEPT my Powerwerx SS-30DV PS running the K3s/P3. Don't have a battery to run the radio on right now... -- ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 - From fcady at montana.edu Mon Jun 20 10:15:44 2016 From: fcady at montana.edu (Cady, Fred) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 14:15:44 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Safe to use a mono plug on the KX2? In-Reply-To: <9C0B709C-5F06-4A38-825F-A2E25CA6D36D@wunderwood.org> References: <9F5D31EF-63D0-4BC3-8CA1-D55AA183E368@widomaker.com>, <9C0B709C-5F06-4A38-825F-A2E25CA6D36D@wunderwood.org> Message-ID: The advice below is good but you can use a mono plug in the PHONES jack. Owner's manual Headphones and Speakers The 3.5 mm PHONES jack accommodates headphones or one or two externally amplified speakers. Mono or stereo plugs can be used. Stereo audio allows the use of dual watch and audio effects (I thought you couldn't either. ) cheers, Fred KE7X For all KE7X Elecraft books, see www.ke7x.com (and a KX2 book is in the making) ________________________________ From: Elecraft on behalf of Walter Underwood Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 3:47 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Safe to use a mono plug on the KX2? Get a basic stereo-to-L/R splitter cable and plug your phones into the preferred mono jack. This one is $6, but they should be easy to find locally. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B000068O5H/ wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jun 19, 2016, at 1:33 PM, Nr4c wrote: > > It would short right channel to ground. Why would you want to do this? > > Doesn't the KX2 have similar audio enhancements as the KX3? You will lose the Dual-Watch feature and ability the hear VFO A & VFO B in separate ears with speakers or phones. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On Jun 19, 2016, at 3:26 PM, Peter Pauly wrote: >> >> Is it safe to use a mono 1/8 inch plug on the speaker jack of the KX2? >> Would that short the two channels together? >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to fcady at montana.edu From vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk Mon Jun 20 09:59:51 2016 From: vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk (Johnny Siu) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 13:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <4ABFB5D5-64CA-4DB6-ABDB-7DDA9FC35686@gmail.com> References: <4ABFB5D5-64CA-4DB6-ABDB-7DDA9FC35686@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1674963330.4770729.1466431191979.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Is the Powerwerx SS-30DV currently sold in the elecraft order page? 73 Johnny VR2XMC ???? Marty Koszewski ???? "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" ????? 2016?06?20? (??) 9:17 PM ??? Re: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s I had the same issue.? It was caused by my Powerwerx SS-30DV.? After trying a number of things to mitigate the noise, I ended up replacing the power supply with a Samlex SEC 1235M.? Noise gone.? Problem solved. Marty - K1MTK ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 20 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 23:55:59 -0500 From: Clay Autery To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I am seeing a repetitive RFI source every 34kHz from somewhere less than 20MHz thru 30MHz plus... See attached image.? The amplitude alternates high/low every other appearance.? The overall amplitude is higher or lower depending on the location within the spectrum....? Almost a sine wave function with a VERY long period. Anyone want to hazard a guess as to what is causing it?? I disco'd every switch-mode power supply in the shack and adjacent rooms (couldn't do the whole house as the XYL was home).... EXCEPT my Powerwerx SS-30DV PS running the K3s/P3. Don't have a battery to run the radio on right now... -- ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 - ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk From k9ma at sdellington.us Mon Jun 20 10:36:26 2016 From: k9ma at sdellington.us (K9MA) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 09:36:26 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <4ABFB5D5-64CA-4DB6-ABDB-7DDA9FC35686@gmail.com> References: <4ABFB5D5-64CA-4DB6-ABDB-7DDA9FC35686@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6C22D8BF-06F0-4FC9-A78D-CE9EF9B00CA9@sdellington.us> I've also used that Samlex supply, with no sign of RFI. Scott. K9MA ---------- Scott Ellington --- via iPad > On Jun 20, 2016, at 8:17 AM, Marty Koszewski wrote: > > I had the same issue. It was caused by my Powerwerx SS-30DV. After trying a number of things to mitigate the noise, I ended up replacing the power supply with a Samlex SEC 1235M. Noise gone. Problem solved. > > Marty - K1MTK > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Message: 20 > Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 23:55:59 -0500 > From: Clay Autery > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I am seeing a repetitive RFI source every 34kHz from somewhere less than > 20MHz thru 30MHz plus... > > See attached image. The amplitude alternates high/low every other > appearance. The overall amplitude is higher or lower depending on the > location within the spectrum.... Almost a sine wave function with a > VERY long period. > > Anyone want to hazard a guess as to what is causing it? I disco'd every > switch-mode power supply in the shack and adjacent rooms (couldn't do > the whole house as the XYL was home).... EXCEPT my Powerwerx SS-30DV PS > running the K3s/P3. > > Don't have a battery to run the radio on right now... > > > > -- > ______________________ > Clay Autery, KY5G > MONTAC Enterprises > (318) 518-1389 > > > > - > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k9ma at sdellington.us From w0eb at cox.net Mon Jun 20 10:46:13 2016 From: w0eb at cox.net (Jim Sheldon) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 14:46:13 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: 6 meters is open Message-ID: Just worked Fred Cady KE7X on 6 meters - he has an S9 signal into KS this morning. Jim - W0EB From stephen.bunting at virgin.net Mon Jun 20 11:02:57 2016 From: stephen.bunting at virgin.net (STEPHEN BUNTING) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 16:02:57 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Elecraft] W2 problem Message-ID: <1988856524.466612.1466434977811.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxbe10.tb.ukmail.iss.as9143.net> Hi everyone, I have a little used W2 wattmeter that has stopped working, but I have recently had access to a working unit so I could test the display and sensor unit independently. Both of mine have faults - The display has lost port nr 1 and it looks like R10 has been damaged on the PCB. What physical size is this resistor? I can see from the cct diagram that it is 330R. I don't do much SMD work so don't recognise the physical sizes..... My 2KW HF sensor displays high SWR and low power into a known good load when used with my friends "good" W2. I cant see any physical problems, so how do I go about fault finding this or getting it fixed? Can I use a regular Ethernet cable to connect display and sensor? I used one to test my display with a known good sensor on port 2, but sometimes the display went haywire whilst on the air. I see elecraft supply a flat 8P8C RJ45 cable, so I guess there is an engineering reason for that? Thanks for your advice! 73 Steve, M0BPQ From cautery at montac.com Mon Jun 20 11:15:54 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 10:15:54 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <1466418525.3308.10.camel@nk7z.net> References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <1466418525.3308.10.camel@nk7z.net> Message-ID: On 6/20/2016 5:28 AM, Dave Cole wrote: > Sometimes you can "get a feeling", where they are located by watching > the timing... Do they drift in the morning, and after sunset, if so, > the SMPS might be outside, on in a non temperature controlled area, if > not it might be inside... > > Do they happen at set intervals? Time to do the power off test to your > home and see if they go away... If you are lucky they will... > > If they do, bring the house up one breaker at a time, looking for the > RFI to start... If not, then set up S-Meter Lite, look for patterns, > then after a week or so of recording what is happening, take out a loop > and start looking for it... Thank you... I think I will TRACK when they are stable vs. drifting... First, I need to find a good battery and QUIET float charger for the K3/P3. Lot of info in short reply. S-Meter Lite... Thanks! Got it now. Need to research/build the loop(s). 73, ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 From cautery at montac.com Mon Jun 20 11:30:59 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 10:30:59 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> Message-ID: <8e478b3b-8293-60dd-60b3-f8cb913b8b5b@montac.com> I certainly hope you are correct. I love this little power supply. It keeps my K3s/P3 smack dab on 13.8 RX and no lower than 13.5 on TX at 100W. But it will be check #1. Learned a long time ago not to make assumptions or NOT eliminate variables (when possible). 73, ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 6/20/2016 6:45 AM, Drew AF2Z wrote: > I have a Powerwerx SS-30DV also. I think it is unlikely that this PS > would put out that kind of trash. I've found it to be very quiet even > listening with an endfed wire antenna within inches of it. > > 73, > Drew > AF2Z > From davidahrendts at me.com Mon Jun 20 11:51:50 2016 From: davidahrendts at me.com (David Ahrendts) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 08:51:50 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <1466418525.3308.10.camel@nk7z.net> Message-ID: Gents, that?s my setup also with K3S #10125, and I?m convinced the Powerwerx SS-30DV is a stable, quiet, top-notch amp recommended by the fine people a Elecraft (it?s what they use on the road). However, thanks to some great advice from people here, I have eliminated the black-red zip cable from all uses in my station. Zip line, or for that matter, any parallel cable, like monster speaker cable, is highly susceptible to RFI. This was a lesson from the early days of stringing telephone cable. The solution: twisted pairs, and even better in 2016, shielded twisted pairs. So every power cable has been replaced in my station with shielded twisted pairs, further protected with ferrite snap-on beads. Even further, I?ve eliminated every switching power supply nearby. It has helped immensely. That said, some of those pesky slowly drifting S9+ noise bumps still live! David A., KK6DA, Los Angeles I certainly hope you are correct. I love this little power supply. It keeps my K3s/P3 smack dab on 13.8 RX and no lower than 13.5 on TX at 100W. But it will be check #1. Learned a long time ago not to make assumptions or NOT eliminate variables (when possible). 73, ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 6/20/2016 6:45 AM, Drew AF2Z wrote: > I have a Powerwerx SS-30DV also. I think it is unlikely that this PS > would put out that kind of trash. I've found it to be very quiet even > listening with an endfed wire antenna within inches of it. > > 73, > Drew > AF2Z > On Jun 20, 2016, at 8:15 AM, Clay Autery wrote: > > On 6/20/2016 5:28 AM, Dave Cole wrote: >> Sometimes you can "get a feeling", where they are located by watching >> the timing... Do they drift in the morning, and after sunset, if so, >> the SMPS might be outside, on in a non temperature controlled area, if >> not it might be inside... >> >> Do they happen at set intervals? Time to do the power off test to your >> home and see if they go away... If you are lucky they will... >> >> If they do, bring the house up one breaker at a time, looking for the >> RFI to start... If not, then set up S-Meter Lite, look for patterns, >> then after a week or so of recording what is happening, take out a loop >> and start looking for it... > Thank you... I think I will TRACK when they are stable vs. drifting... > First, I need to find a good battery and QUIET float charger for the K3/P3. > > Lot of info in short reply. S-Meter Lite... Thanks! Got it now. > Need to research/build the loop(s). > > 73, > > ______________________ > Clay Autery, KY5G > MONTAC Enterprises > (318) 518-1389 David Ahrendts davidahrendts at me.com From pkmaint at yahoo.com Mon Jun 20 11:52:06 2016 From: pkmaint at yahoo.com (David N.) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 15:52:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] K2 VS KX3 References: <29196370.1281399.1466437926498.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <29196370.1281399.1466437926498.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Well not so much "VS"? Here is the storyI have been running my K2's since 2004 Built my first one then Picked up another half built with a problemwhich I was able to solve. And I built the KPA100?and tuner in?a EC2 together but separate from the K2Anyway.I am looking to get something more capable. More modes I/Q sound card etc...Is it worth the upgrade over my K2's for the KX3? Would like to hear from someone who has done it. ThanksDavid KR4OWK2 4320 From eric at elecraft.com Mon Jun 20 11:56:38 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 08:56:38 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 Shipping Status In-Reply-To: References: <02f9ed5d-ceb8-ba39-05ca-344022ca92ae@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <18b525ed-10e7-2961-1f04-5397cbd9b97e@elecraft.com> Hi Peter, Your KXPA100 order shipped to you on 6/15 California time, two days after your order. If you have further questions on your order, please email madelyn at elecraft.com and we will quickly help you. 73, Eric /elecraft.com/ On 6/17/2016 10:36 AM, Peter Pauly wrote: > I ordered a KXPA100 amp four days ago and the status was in stock. It hasn't > shipped yet and I'm hoping to get it before Field Day, but I am assuming that > the popularity of the KX2 is indirectly affecting all of the product lines. If > I lived in CA, I would offer to come over and help. > From g8kbvdave at googlemail.com Mon Jun 20 11:59:36 2016 From: g8kbvdave at googlemail.com (Dave B) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 16:59:36 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s Message-ID: <576812E8.8050902@googlemail.com> Cant help thinking, that the charge to discharge "Efficiency" is probably no better than a good linear PSU, but you do I guess get the "Off grid" option for EMCOM work.. There ARE (RF)quiet SMPS's out there, but not priced in a way that will suit the average Ham's budget. You get what you pay for. Oh, and they tend to be large too, due to the filtering. Quite honestly, for "Amateur" work, where the rig will usually spend most of it's life in RX, a linear PSU is just fine. Plus, you can fix them when things fail. Try that with a modern well suppresed QRO SMPS!.. 73. Dave G0WBX. ~~~ Original message. From: Marc Veeneman To:pubx1 at af2z.net Cc:elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s Message-ID:<768828B9-AF69-479E-8E38-2FBEEC234B0F at yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My PowerWerx supply DOES generate those drifting noise spikes, ruining CW on 80 meters for me. I have yet to find a 13.8 volt switching supply that can provide 25 quiet amps. I've gone entirely to batteries rather than use quiet but inefficient linear supplies. Now I only have SMPS noise when recharging the batteries. So I leave that for non-hamming hours. More testing is needed, but I did find one SMPS for LiFePO4 batteries that seemed RFI free. It's an Optimate brand product but only produces 5 amps. From dmb at lightstream.net Mon Jun 20 12:18:28 2016 From: dmb at lightstream.net (Dale Boresz) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 12:18:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3/PX3 Lines on the screen In-Reply-To: <65C7EE00-B55E-4A07-8D8F-878928CE6314@yahoo.co.uk> References: <65C7EE00-B55E-4A07-8D8F-878928CE6314@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <60854.71.74.118.201.1466439508.squirrel@mail.expedient.net> Also, if you are fortunate enough to have a QTH that enables an unusually low noise floor, engaging the preamp should push the 'lines' below the noise floor. 73, Dale - WA8SRA > Bill, > > That's normal and nothing to worry about as band noise covers it. There > was a posting about this before, that I can't locate just now. It is > mainly from internally produced noise from the switched mode regulators in > the PX3 apparently. > > 73 from David GM4JJJ > >> On 20 Jun 2016, at 04:21, Bill Frantz wrote: >> >> Probably I'll kick myself for asking a dumb question, but here goes. >> >> Receiving on a dummy load, I am getting a pattern of lines on the PX3 >> screen with my KX3. There are 5 strong lines and 2 week lines >> symmetrically on either side of the green bar (tuned frequency). When I >> tune the KX3, they move with the green bar. They move down by about 8 >> KHz when I switch RX SHFT to 8.0 from NOR. The closest lines to the >> tuned frequency are about 12 KHz above and below it. The other lines are >> not evenly spaced, but are spaced about 3-6 KHz apart. Turning RX ISO on >> has no effect. >> >> When I attach an antenna, I get normal results from signals on the band. >> The signals are not distributed symmetrically they way they would be if >> the I/Q cable was not inserted all the way on the PX3 and KX3. (And I >> pushed really hard too.) >> >> Any ideas of what is going on? Any way to "cure" it? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> 73 Bill AE6JV >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Bill Frantz | Since the IBM Selectric, keyboards have gotten >> 408-356-8506 | steadily worse. Now we have touchscreen keyboards. >> www.pwpconsult.com | Can we make something even worse? >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dmb at lightstream.net > From cautery at montac.com Mon Jun 20 12:41:42 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:41:42 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <5767E579.3000108@af2z.net> References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <768828B9-AF69-479E-8E38-2FBEEC234B0F@yahoo.com> <5767E579.3000108@af2z.net> Message-ID: <0cadc172-874a-a55a-2778-9febeaadfb28@montac.com> Marc and Drew, Appreciate the feedback... Checking my PS is my first test. Will power off all circuits except the one to my shack that runs the AC to the PS. Then I'll A/B with radio on battery and on the PS. (PS air-gapped/unplugged when on batt). If it is the PS, I'll try to choke the I/O power leads first before doing anything else. I've a strong feeling it is NOT the SS-30DV... My antenna is an 80m loop outside at 38-40 feet. Fed with 300 ladder to the 6:1 balun. Only 15-20 feet of coax total (LMR240-DB with N-Connectors) direct from balun to radio. Before I do anything beyond IDing culprits, I have to address other shortcomings first: 1) Insufficient service ground, 2) no shack ground, 3) no bond from non-existent shack ground to service ground. :( Knew I should have done those things BEFORE I went OTA... the mic/K3 is a huge distraction from my TO DO list. ;) 73, ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 6/20/2016 7:45 AM, Drew AF2Z wrote: > I do also have multiple turns of the p/s power cord wound through a > large toroid, just for good measure. I investigated the Powerwerx at > one time when I was having some RFI problems, comparing it side by > side with a linear supply, and just didn't find the ss-30dv to be a > problem. My main problem was the DSL modem, and perhaps copper phone > lines, now eliminated by Fios internet. > > 73, > Drew > AF2Z > > > > On 06/20/16 07:59, Marc Veeneman wrote: >> My PowerWerx supply DOES generate those drifting noise spikes, >> ruining CW on 80 meters for me. I have yet to find a 13.8 volt >> switching supply that can provide 25 quiet amps. I've gone entirely >> to batteries rather than use quiet but inefficient linear supplies. >> >> Now I only have SMPS noise when recharging the batteries. So I >> leave that for non-hamming hours. More testing is needed, but I did >> find one SMPS for LiFePO4 batteries that seemed RFI free. It's an >> Optimate brand product but only produces 5 amps. From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Mon Jun 20 12:43:01 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 09:43:01 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <1466419612.3308.14.camel@nk7z.net> References: <56683466-63b0-8d29-b3b0-adbec73250d2@audiosystemsgroup.com> <1466419612.3308.14.camel@nk7z.net> Message-ID: <279a064d-b1c8-0d3a-96ed-2582f73318c3@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Mon,6/20/2016 3:46 AM, Dave Cole wrote: > The last page says it is page 17 of 19... What's on the last 2 pages? Last two pages is stuff I deleted. :) > > BTW, nice job on the new paper on RFI! Thanks! 73, Jim From pubx1 at af2z.net Mon Jun 20 12:44:03 2016 From: pubx1 at af2z.net (Drew AF2Z) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 12:44:03 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <8e478b3b-8293-60dd-60b3-f8cb913b8b5b@montac.com> References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <8e478b3b-8293-60dd-60b3-f8cb913b8b5b@montac.com> Message-ID: <57681D53.5020104@af2z.net> FWIW, the ss-30dv that Elecraft sells is listed at 14.1 VDC. Older units sold elsewhere were listed at lower output voltage but you can adjust an internal pot to bring them up to 14.1. 73, Drew AF2Z On 06/20/16 11:30, Clay Autery wrote: > I certainly hope you are correct. I love this little power supply. It > keeps my K3s/P3 smack dab on 13.8 RX and no lower than 13.5 on TX at 100W. > But it will be check #1. Learned a long time ago not to make > assumptions or NOT eliminate variables (when possible). > > 73, > > ______________________ > Clay Autery, KY5G > MONTAC Enterprises > (318) 518-1389 > > From glcazzola at alice.it Mon Jun 20 12:50:25 2016 From: glcazzola at alice.it (glcazzola at alice.it) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 18:50:25 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Elecraft] R: Re: K3S losing swr-wattmeters indications on tx - please help Message-ID: <1556eb86085.glcazzola@alice.it> Lucien, many thanks for your help. I am ashtonished. It is incredible that a great rig as the K3S doesnt have the simpler debouncing circuit on the key input, input obviously available for all mechanical kind of key, so with potential bounces. This afternoon I have written to elecraft support informing them about this problem.73 Ian IK4EWX ----Messaggio originale---- Da: lstavenhagen at hotmail.com Data: 19-giu-2016 18.37 A: Ogg: Re: [Elecraft] K3S losing swr-wattmeters indications on tx - please help Yes, both my K3 and a K3s do this when I key them with my bugs or with my straight key. Even my K2's will behave strangely, though not quite as bad as the K3 and s. It's not a problem with the rig; it's just a contact bounce issue, so you'll just need a debouncing circuit. Either an external keyer (most of them have debouncing circuitry in them) or you can home-brew one. There are a couple good circuits in the list archives. A capacitor across the bug terminals will help, say a .1 uf, but beware that it'll key the rig momentarily when you first plug it in as the cap charges. 73, LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3S-losing-swr-wattmeters-indications-on-tx-please-help-tp7618984p7618995.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to glcazzola at alice.it From cautery at montac.com Mon Jun 20 13:02:06 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 12:02:06 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <1466418525.3308.10.camel@nk7z.net> Message-ID: <9cfe7e12-de69-9c5e-400a-2077fafe62a4@montac.com> I'm an old network guy, and have added "elimination of all parallel conductor cables" to my TODO list in favor of UTP/STP. Bottom Line: I want to quiet my "shack" as much as possible such that any significant RFI has to be external... ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 6/20/2016 10:51 AM, David Ahrendts wrote: > Gents, that?s my setup also with K3S #10125, and I?m convinced the > Powerwerx SS-30DV is a stable, quiet, top-notch amp recommended by the > fine people a Elecraft (it?s what they use on the road). However, > thanks to some great advice from people here, I have eliminated the > black-red zip cable from all uses in my station. Zip line, or for that > matter, any parallel cable, like monster speaker cable, is highly > susceptible to RFI. This was a lesson from the early days of stringing > telephone cable. The solution: twisted pairs, and even better in 2016, > _shielded_ twisted pairs. So every power cable has been replaced in my > station with shielded twisted pairs, further protected with ferrite > snap-on beads. Even further, I?ve eliminated every switching power > supply nearby. It has helped immensely. > That said, some of those pesky slowly drifting S9+ noise bumps still > live! > > David A., KK6DA, Los Angeles > From rickw8zt at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 13:03:12 2016 From: rickw8zt at gmail.com (Rick Robinson) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 13:03:12 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <576812E8.8050902@googlemail.com> References: <576812E8.8050902@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Dave, you have brought up something I have wondered about for some time. I have had my kx3 for three plus years and have been on many lists and most everyone wants a smps instead of a small 3 amp linear supply. Radio Shack and many others made these supply's and they are plentiful at Hamfests for 10-20 USD. It seems like a lot of folks operate from home and want a smps . Why, if the weight would not be a factor, do folks want to take a chance on a potentially noisy ps ? I use a big linear supply which also feeds my IC7200 but if the need arises I use a small linear supply. I do have a nice switcher which I do not notice any noise but it is used a bench supply. It is a Alinco something 330. Variable output and has noise shift. Anyway, I don't want to hijack this thread, just wondering. On Monday, June 20, 2016, Dave B via Elecraft wrote: > Cant help thinking, that the charge to discharge "Efficiency" is probably > no better than a good linear PSU, but you do I guess get the "Off grid" > option for EMCOM work.. > > There ARE (RF)quiet SMPS's out there, but not priced in a way that will > suit the average Ham's budget. You get what you pay for. Oh, and they > tend to be large too, due to the filtering. > > Quite honestly, for "Amateur" work, where the rig will usually spend most > of it's life in RX, a linear PSU is just fine. Plus, you can fix them > when things fail. Try that with a modern well suppresed QRO SMPS!.. > > 73. > > Dave G0WBX. > > > ~~~ Original message. > > From: Marc Veeneman > To:pubx1 at af2z.net > Cc:elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s > Message-ID:<768828B9-AF69-479E-8E38-2FBEEC234B0F at yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > My PowerWerx supply DOES generate those drifting noise spikes, ruining CW > on 80 meters for me. I have yet to find a 13.8 volt switching supply that > can provide 25 quiet amps. I've gone entirely to batteries rather than use > quiet but inefficient linear supplies. > > Now I only have SMPS noise when recharging the batteries. So I leave > that for non-hamming hours. More testing is needed, but I did find one > SMPS for LiFePO4 batteries that seemed RFI free. It's an Optimate brand > product but only produces 5 amps. > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rickw8zt at gmail.com > -- Rick, W8ZT Sent from Gmail Mobile From G4GNX at theatreorgans.co.uk Mon Jun 20 13:06:06 2016 From: G4GNX at theatreorgans.co.uk (G4GNX) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 18:06:06 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <0cadc172-874a-a55a-2778-9febeaadfb28@montac.com> References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com><5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com><5767D767.3060408@af2z.net><768828B9-AF69-479E-8E38-2FBEEC234B0F@yahoo.com><5767E579.3000108@af2z.net> <0cadc172-874a-a55a-2778-9febeaadfb28@montac.com> Message-ID: <4D6DF20BAD0B4CB5B88E3534808CE984@Paramount> FWIW I still have a few issues with RFi, but I've managed to cure two of the major ones, the rest are a matter of finding time. At present, I'm running an MFJ 1500W auto-tuner which needs a 12V supply for the display, logic and relays. I had a massive drifting "birdie" on 40 metres, but it didn't always appear on the same frequency. I found that it shifted frequency with minor changes in load, caused by using different relays within the tuner. I replaced the switch mode PSU and all is now good. The second major issue was mainly on 2 metres, but there were also sprogs on other bands. This turned out to be a PC PSU which despite an application of ferrite rings, would not lie down! I found that if the PC was put into 'sleep' mode, it would go quiet. I finally replaced the PSU - problem solved. Just a few thoughts on what you might look for. 73, Alan. G4GNX -----Original Message----- From: Clay Autery Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 5:41 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s Marc and Drew, Appreciate the feedback... Checking my PS is my first test. Will power off all circuits except the one to my shack that runs the AC to the PS. Then I'll A/B with radio on battery and on the PS. (PS air-gapped/unplugged when on batt). If it is the PS, I'll try to choke the I/O power leads first before doing anything else. I've a strong feeling it is NOT the SS-30DV... My antenna is an 80m loop outside at 38-40 feet. Fed with 300 ladder to the 6:1 balun. Only 15-20 feet of coax total (LMR240-DB with N-Connectors) direct from balun to radio. Before I do anything beyond IDing culprits, I have to address other shortcomings first: 1) Insufficient service ground, 2) no shack ground, 3) no bond from non-existent shack ground to service ground. :( Knew I should have done those things BEFORE I went OTA... the mic/K3 is a huge distraction from my TO DO list. ;) 73, ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 From cautery at montac.com Mon Jun 20 13:09:19 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 12:09:19 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <57681D53.5020104@af2z.net> References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <8e478b3b-8293-60dd-60b3-f8cb913b8b5b@montac.com> <57681D53.5020104@af2z.net> Message-ID: <8d9838aa-8146-dafe-2658-28123a887050@montac.com> LOL! Mine IS one of the newer ones that was originally 14.19 VDC. I learned where the pot was at HAMCOM, and the first thing I did when I got home was adjust it to provide the K3s 13.8. I am aware that this voided my warranty... I'd rather eat the cost of a new SS-30DV and KNOW I'm feeding the $$$ K3s as close to spec as possible. (yes, I am THAT OCD). ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 6/20/2016 11:44 AM, Drew AF2Z wrote: > FWIW, the ss-30dv that Elecraft sells is listed at 14.1 VDC. Older > units sold elsewhere were listed at lower output voltage but you can > adjust an internal pot to bring them up to 14.1. t > > 73, > Drew > AF2Z > > From r.tristani at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 13:14:57 2016 From: r.tristani at gmail.com (Ramon Tristani) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 13:14:57 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <4D6DF20BAD0B4CB5B88E3534808CE984@Paramount> References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <768828B9-AF69-479E-8E38-2FBEEC234B0F@yahoo.com> <5767E579.3000108@af2z.net> <0cadc172-874a-a55a-2778-9febeaadfb28@montac.com> <4D6DF20BAD0B4CB5B88E3534808CE984@Paramount> Message-ID: <5FA3AE42-E7F3-4402-8B4D-40D81C37B72A@gmail.com> How can you detect the drifting if RF if Iyou have to turn off the K-3 and the P3? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 20, 2016, at 1:06 PM, G4GNX wrote: > > FWIW I still have a few issues with RFi, but I've managed to cure two of the major ones, the rest are a matter of finding time. > > At present, I'm running an MFJ 1500W auto-tuner which needs a 12V supply for the display, logic and relays. I had a massive drifting "birdie" on 40 metres, but it didn't always appear on the same frequency. I found that it shifted frequency with minor changes in load, caused by using different relays within the tuner. I replaced the switch mode PSU and all is now good. > > The second major issue was mainly on 2 metres, but there were also sprogs on other bands. This turned out to be a PC PSU which despite an application of ferrite rings, would not lie down! I found that if the PC was put into 'sleep' mode, it would go quiet. I finally replaced the PSU - problem solved. > > Just a few thoughts on what you might look for. > > 73, > > Alan. G4GNX > > -----Original Message----- From: Clay Autery > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 5:41 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s > > Marc and Drew, > > Appreciate the feedback... Checking my PS is my first test. Will power > off all circuits except the one to my shack that runs the AC to the PS. > Then I'll A/B with radio on battery and on the PS. (PS > air-gapped/unplugged when on batt). > If it is the PS, I'll try to choke the I/O power leads first before > doing anything else. > > I've a strong feeling it is NOT the SS-30DV... My antenna is an 80m > loop outside at 38-40 feet. Fed with 300 ladder to the 6:1 balun. Only > 15-20 feet of coax total (LMR240-DB with N-Connectors) direct from balun > to radio. > > Before I do anything beyond IDing culprits, I have to address other > shortcomings first: 1) Insufficient service ground, 2) no shack ground, > 3) no bond from non-existent shack ground to service ground. :( > Knew I should have done those things BEFORE I went OTA... the mic/K3 is > a huge distraction from my TO DO list. ;) > > 73, > > ______________________ > Clay Autery, KY5G > MONTAC Enterprises > (318) 518-1389 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to r.tristani at gmail.com From cautery at montac.com Mon Jun 20 13:15:19 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 12:15:19 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: <576812E8.8050902@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <60832252-f35e-b5ad-cc21-d450063d663e@montac.com> On 6/20/2016 12:03 PM, Rick Robinson wrote: > Why, if the weight would not be a factor, do folks want to take a chance on > a potentially noisy ps ? Because some of us are EXTREMELY limited on space... My entire shack must fit in a cube 4 feet x 3 feet by 8 feet. I suspect there are other reasons, like not wanting to lift/move 30-50 pound components, et al. 73, ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 From cautery at montac.com Mon Jun 20 13:21:19 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 12:21:19 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <4D6DF20BAD0B4CB5B88E3534808CE984@Paramount> References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <768828B9-AF69-479E-8E38-2FBEEC234B0F@yahoo.com> <5767E579.3000108@af2z.net> <0cadc172-874a-a55a-2778-9febeaadfb28@montac.com> <4D6DF20BAD0B4CB5B88E3534808CE984@Paramount> Message-ID: <481a96b8-e6bd-315a-2c67-384a0498ec87@montac.com> Thanks... One of my goals is to completely eliminate wall warts in my shack. I planned to use a nice quiet multi-voltage output PS(s) and/or buck/boost converters (or other circuitry) to supply power to every device in the shack.... reducing the clutter/complexity/potential culprits. Now, I am considering modifying that plan to battery(ies) with quiet charger(s) and circuitry to provide required voltages for all devices. Then move out and do the same for the home network, and all other DC devices... ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 6/20/2016 12:06 PM, G4GNX wrote: > FWIW I still have a few issues with RFi, but I've managed to cure two > of the major ones, the rest are a matter of finding time. > > At present, I'm running an MFJ 1500W auto-tuner which needs a 12V > supply for the display, logic and relays. I had a massive drifting > "birdie" on 40 metres, but it didn't always appear on the same > frequency. I found that it shifted frequency with minor changes in > load, caused by using different relays within the tuner. I replaced > the switch mode PSU and all is now good. > > The second major issue was mainly on 2 metres, but there were also > sprogs on other bands. This turned out to be a PC PSU which despite an > application of ferrite rings, would not lie down! I found that if the > PC was put into 'sleep' mode, it would go quiet. I finally replaced > the PSU - problem solved. > > Just a few thoughts on what you might look for. > > 73, > > Alan. G4GNX From donwilh at embarqmail.com Mon Jun 20 13:27:40 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 13:27:40 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <481a96b8-e6bd-315a-2c67-384a0498ec87@montac.com> References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <768828B9-AF69-479E-8E38-2FBEEC234B0F@yahoo.com> <5767E579.3000108@af2z.net> <0cadc172-874a-a55a-2778-9febeaadfb28@montac.com> <4D6DF20BAD0B4CB5B88E3534808CE984@Paramount> <481a96b8-e6bd-315a-2c67-384a0498ec87@montac.com> Message-ID: Clay, Where do you find buck/boost converters that are other than switch mode devices? Most all I have seen are similar to switch mode power supplies. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/20/2016 1:21 PM, Clay Autery wrote: > One of my goals is to completely eliminate wall warts in my shack. I > planned to use a nice quiet multi-voltage output PS(s) and/or buck/boost > converters (or other circuitry) to supply power to every device in the > shack.... From frantz at pwpconsult.com Mon Jun 20 13:30:47 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 10:30:47 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I frequently use my KX3 for portable operation after an airplane trip. A light weight PS is a big plus since I am frequently near the 50 lb (22 Kg) limit. BTW, I have been quite happy with my Pro Audio Engineering PAE-Kx33 power supply, even in rural New Hampshire with the associated very low levels of RFI. 73 Bill AE6JV On 6/20/16 at 10:03 AM, rickw8zt at gmail.com (Rick Robinson) wrote: >most everyone wants a smps instead of a small 3 amp linear >supply. ... It seems like a lot of folks operate from home and >want a smps. >Why, if the weight would not be a factor, do folks want to take a chance on >a potentially noisy ps ? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | "The only thing we have to | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | fear is fear itself." - FDR | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | Inaugural address, 3/4/1933 | Los Gatos, CA 95032 From jimmy.walker at outlook.com Mon Jun 20 13:33:24 2016 From: jimmy.walker at outlook.com (James Walker) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 17:33:24 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <8d9838aa-8146-dafe-2658-28123a887050@montac.com> References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <8e478b3b-8293-60dd-60b3-f8cb913b8b5b@montac.com> <57681D53.5020104@af2z.net> <8d9838aa-8146-dafe-2658-28123a887050@montac.com> Message-ID: This thread has lead me to notice the comments on operating voltage. I?ve been having some trouble with my K-3 and the MCU LD message on startup. It was suggested that I monitor the voltage on the rig during operation. I get the 13.5 on receive. But the voltage drops as low as 10.5 on 100 watt transmit. I have an Astron power supply that is rated at 35 amps, very conservative for this usage. I have used it to power 100 watt rigs in the past with no problem. Is it normal to register voltage as low as I?m seeing on my K-3? The power supply has meters for amps and volts and the voltage indicated during power cycles is unchanged. So it appears the voltage drop is at the rig. I can ever see dimming of the dial light in some situations. I don?t think the power supply is failing since I don?t notice these symptoms with any other rigs. And no, I never use the power supply for more than one rig at a time. Jimmy Walker WA4ILO Macon, GA On Jun 20, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Clay Autery > wrote: Mine IS one of the newer ones that was originally 14.19 VDC. I learned where the pot was at HAMCOM, and the first thing I did when I got home was adjust it to provide the K3s 13.8. From g4urt at btinternet.com Mon Jun 20 13:55:38 2016 From: g4urt at btinternet.com (g4urt at btinternet.com) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 17:55:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] K3 plus External Tvtr problem - Advice required please. References: <1105936268.10902394.1466445338484.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1105936268.10902394.1466445338484.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I've been running my K3 with a Demi 2m tvtr now for a couple of years with no problem. I also have the K3 internal 2m?tvtr as well. All has been well until the other week when I was trying to run a /P 2m EME demo station at a local radio fair and I was having major issues (ie - no decodes!). I was running the internal tvtr for this set-up. To cut a long story short we tried various settings within the K3 set-up as we were trying different set-ups and I suspect that at this time some setting was changed.... The internal tvtr still works (both tx and rx) and I can receive on the external tvtr which does go into Tx mode when?I go to PTT?but does not produce any RF whatsoever (that I can measure).I've gone round and round in circles (this happened 2 weeks ago) but have not found the answer to my problem. I would like to say what I've tried to rectify this problem but I've done so many things I can't remember them!From the symptons above as anybody any idea what I could have done? In the last 2 weeks my hair has got greyer - and I don't want it to go white and fall out..... Cheers, Peter G4URT From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Mon Jun 20 13:59:21 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 10:59:21 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <8e478b3b-8293-60dd-60b3-f8cb913b8b5b@montac.com> <57681D53.5020104@af2z.net> <8d9838aa-8146-dafe-2658-28123a887050@montac.com> Message-ID: On Mon,6/20/2016 10:33 AM, James Walker wrote: > Is it normal to register voltage as low as I?m seeing on my K-3? What you're seeing sounds like IR drop in the DC cable. How long is the DC cable between the K3 and the power supply? What wire gauge? Is there any equipment (like distribution panel) in between? This is a great application for a short length of #10 twisted pair between the PSU and rig. 73, Jim K9YC From dpbunte at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 14:01:17 2016 From: dpbunte at gmail.com (David Bunte) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 14:01:17 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <8e478b3b-8293-60dd-60b3-f8cb913b8b5b@montac.com> <57681D53.5020104@af2z.net> <8d9838aa-8146-dafe-2658-28123a887050@montac.com> Message-ID: James - The first thing I would do is check the voltage at the K3. If you have a long run of cable from your PS, of if you have connectors that are not fully seated, or correctly installed, that would likely result in voltage drop that would be detrimental. Best of luck es 73 de Dave - K9FN On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 1:33 PM, James Walker wrote: > This thread has lead me to notice the comments on operating voltage. I?ve > been having some trouble with my K-3 and the MCU LD message on startup. It > was suggested that I monitor the voltage on the rig during operation. I get > the 13.5 on receive. But the voltage drops as low as 10.5 on 100 watt > transmit. I have an Astron power supply that is rated at 35 amps, very > conservative for this usage. I have used it to power 100 watt rigs in the > past with no problem. > > Is it normal to register voltage as low as I?m seeing on my K-3? The power > supply has meters for amps and volts and the voltage indicated during power > cycles is unchanged. So it appears the voltage drop is at the rig. I can > ever see dimming of the dial light in some situations. I don?t think the > power supply is failing since I don?t notice these symptoms with any other > rigs. And no, I never use the power supply for more than one rig at a time. > > Jimmy Walker > WA4ILO > Macon, GA > > On Jun 20, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Clay Autery cautery at montac.com>> wrote: > > Mine IS one of the newer ones that was originally 14.19 VDC. I > learned where the pot was at HAMCOM, and the first thing I did when I > got home was adjust it to provide the K3s 13.8. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dpbunte at gmail.com > From lstavenhagen at hotmail.com Mon Jun 20 14:15:49 2016 From: lstavenhagen at hotmail.com (lstavenhagen) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:15:49 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] R: Re: K3S losing swr-wattmeters indications on tx - please help In-Reply-To: <1556eb86085.glcazzola@alice.it> References: <1556eb86085.glcazzola@alice.it> Message-ID: <1466446549399-7619062.post@n2.nabble.com> I imagine it's because of the QRQ support that it doesn't have dedicated debouncing circuitry for straight keys, but I'm not sure about that. The K2 does have some small caps across the key input, but it too still gives me slight problems when I key it with my straight key. Though it's not as bad as with the K3(s).. I'm just going to use an external keyer on mine, since I have other uses for a dedicated keyer in general. Most Curtis based keyers have debouncing built-in for use with straight keys and bugs. 73 LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/R-Re-K3S-losing-swr-wattmeters-indications-on-tx-please-help-tp7619048p7619062.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From rickw8zt at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 14:19:59 2016 From: rickw8zt at gmail.com (Rick Robinson) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 14:19:59 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <60832252-f35e-b5ad-cc21-d450063d663e@montac.com> References: <576812E8.8050902@googlemail.com> <60832252-f35e-b5ad-cc21-d450063d663e@montac.com> Message-ID: I guess space might be a concern on large current supply's. There are ways around that but I was mainly thinking qrp level power supply's. On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Clay Autery wrote: > On 6/20/2016 12:03 PM, Rick Robinson wrote: > > Why, if the weight would not be a factor, do folks want to take a chance > on > > a potentially noisy ps ? > > Because some of us are EXTREMELY limited on space... My entire shack > must fit in a cube 4 feet x 3 feet by 8 feet. > I suspect there are other reasons, like not wanting to lift/move 30-50 > pound components, et al. > > 73, > > ______________________ > Clay Autery, KY5G > MONTAC Enterprises > (318) 518-1389 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rickw8zt at gmail.com > From cautery at montac.com Mon Jun 20 14:45:48 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 13:45:48 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <768828B9-AF69-479E-8E38-2FBEEC234B0F@yahoo.com> <5767E579.3000108@af2z.net> <0cadc172-874a-a55a-2778-9febeaadfb28@montac.com> <4D6DF20BAD0B4CB5B88E3534808CE984@Paramount> <481a96b8-e6bd-315a-2c67-384a0498ec87@montac.com> Message-ID: <7829d0dd-d11c-c434-f3ad-f195ecdce48b@montac.com> Haven't yet... more of a general term to cover devicets/circuits to change a base voltage out to multiple needed. Many ways to skin that particular cat... ;) 73, ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 6/20/2016 12:27 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Clay, > > Where do you find buck/boost converters that are other than switch > mode devices? > Most all I have seen are similar to switch mode power supplies. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > 't yet... > On 6/20/2016 1:21 PM, Clay Autery wrote: From cautery at montac.com Mon Jun 20 14:48:23 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 13:48:23 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <8e478b3b-8293-60dd-60b3-f8cb913b8b5b@montac.com> <57681D53.5020104@af2z.net> <8d9838aa-8146-dafe-2658-28123a887050@montac.com> Message-ID: <8e6509bc-97e3-925f-e35d-df156996bba8@montac.com> That is woefully unacceptable voltage regulation... you have an issue. I believe the MAX spread on the K3 is 11-15 VDC IIRC. ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 6/20/2016 12:33 PM, James Walker wrote: > This thread has lead me to notice the comments on operating voltage. I?ve been having some trouble with my K-3 and the MCU LD message on startup. It was suggested that I monitor the voltage on the rig during operation. I get the 13.5 on receive. But the voltage drops as low as 10.5 on 100 watt transmit. I have an Astron power supply that is rated at 35 amps, very conservative for this usage. I have used it to power 100 watt rigs in the past with no problem. > > Is it normal to register voltage as low as I?m seeing on my K-3? The power supply has meters for amps and volts and the voltage indicated during power cycles is unchanged. So it appears the voltage drop is at the rig. I can ever see dimming of the dial light in some situations. I don?t think the power supply is failing since I don?t notice these symptoms with any other rigs. And no, I never use the power supply for more than one rig at a time. > > Jimmy Walker > WA4ILO > Macon, GA > > On Jun 20, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Clay Autery > wrote: > > Mine IS one of the newer ones that was originally 14.19 VDC. I > learned where the pot was at HAMCOM, and the first thing I did when I > got home was adjust it to provide the K3s 13.8. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to cautery at montac.com From cautery at montac.com Mon Jun 20 14:52:04 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 13:52:04 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: <576812E8.8050902@googlemail.com> <60832252-f35e-b5ad-cc21-d450063d663e@montac.com> Message-ID: Understand... I am conserving/reserving as much space as possible for amps and amp PS... and TMDE equipment. ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 6/20/2016 1:19 PM, Rick Robinson wrote: > I guess space might be a concern on large current supply's. There are > ways around that but I was mainly thinking qrp level power supply's. > From w2blc at nycap.rr.com Mon Jun 20 14:53:58 2016 From: w2blc at nycap.rr.com (Bill) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 14:53:58 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3af25bb3-8fe9-efb1-1532-88956431a80d@nycap.rr.com> I replaced two OLD astrons (over 30 years on each) last summer with a couple of Powerwerx SS-30DVs and have had no problems with noise at all. Having said that, I should qualify my statement: I have a typical noise level of band noise only. In other words, I receive no noise from local modern conveniences. My antennas are 100 feet from the house. Distance makes a wonderful noise insulator. When I switch to a multi-band dipole fastened to an eave corner of the house - the noise will jump a couple of S units. That is the local modern crap that infests the house. And, that is why my regular antennas are well removed from the house. By the way, those new power supplies do not even cause a problem on the close in antenna. Very quiet. Bill W2BLC K-Line From k2av.guy at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 15:16:00 2016 From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 15:16:00 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] R: Re: K3S losing swr-wattmeters indications on tx - please help In-Reply-To: <1466446549399-7619062.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1556eb86085.glcazzola@alice.it> <1466446549399-7619062.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: I have heard numbers like 90 and 100 wpm for operative QRQ for the K3, but don't have time to go research where I heard that. I *know* it runs sweet at 60 and 70 WPM. BTDT. But I will caution that certain problems with key contact surfaces will produce a signal impossible to debounce. These problems were *very* common with older bugs and straight keys. Having a single debouncing strategy for 90 wpm QRQ, and for degraded contact surfaces extremely common with bugs and old straight keys is probably an oxymoron. There is a reason that Vibroplex offers a resurfacing service for contacts on their products. Pitting and carbonizing from keying 250 volts at 150 milliamps, scratching, wearing, sandpapering (yes people did that), flattening, filing (yes people did that), yada, yada, yada. These were all huge issues in the day before common affordable electronic keyers, standalone and built-in, and polished single chip solutions like Win-Key. If I was a modern manufacturer and had a choice between servicing 90 wpm QRQ and debouncing bugs and straight keys with questionable contact surfaces, I would choose QRQ hands down. Not close. Easy smackdown choice for QRQ. Those of us who want to use the old stuff need to make allowances. Getting rid of key clicks in my Johnson Viking Ranger I is a problem I have never really conquered. And I can't bring myself to spend the bux to get the contacts on my Vibroplex bug resurfaced. That's *my* issue, not Elecraft's. Programming resources and subsequent testing for transceiver firmware is one of the most expensive components of any modern transceiver. Manufacturers have to make choices that will return a profit or they will go out of business. 73, Guy K2AV On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 2:15 PM, lstavenhagen wrote: > I imagine it's because of the QRQ support that it doesn't have dedicated > debouncing circuitry for straight keys, but I'm not sure about that. The K2 > does have some small caps across the key input, but it too still gives me > slight problems when I key it with my straight key. Though it's not as bad > as with the K3(s).. > > I'm just going to use an external keyer on mine, since I have other uses > for > a dedicated keyer in general. Most Curtis based keyers have debouncing > built-in for use with straight keys and bugs. > > 73 > LS > W5QD > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/R-Re-K3S-losing-swr-wattmeters-indications-on-tx-please-help-tp7619048p7619062.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2av.guy at gmail.com > From donwilh at embarqmail.com Mon Jun 20 15:22:48 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 15:22:48 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <8e478b3b-8293-60dd-60b3-f8cb913b8b5b@montac.com> <57681D53.5020104@af2z.net> <8d9838aa-8146-dafe-2658-28123a887050@montac.com> Message-ID: <099e85a4-8770-1087-fc6c-cfa044346d21@embarqmail.com> Jimmy, The voltage at your power supply may indeed be OK, but somewhere in the path to the K3, there is a huge resistance. Possible causes: - Lugs not tight at the power supply. Tighten nuts with a wrench. - Wire gauge inadequate for the K3 load on transmit - use #12 or better #10. - Long power leads having too much wire resistance - related to above - use short wire. - Incorrectly assembled Anderson Power Pole connector - look at the end of the housing. If you can see the spring metal locking finger below the contact blade, it is not correctly assembled - push on the contact blade from the rear until the contact blade locks over the spring finger. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/20/2016 1:33 PM, James Walker wrote: > This thread has lead me to notice the comments on operating voltage. I?ve been having some trouble with my K-3 and the MCU LD message on startup. It was suggested that I monitor the voltage on the rig during operation. I get the 13.5 on receive. But the voltage drops as low as 10.5 on 100 watt transmit. I have an Astron power supply that is rated at 35 amps, very conservative for this usage. I have used it to power 100 watt rigs in the past with no problem. > > Is it normal to register voltage as low as I?m seeing on my K-3? The power supply has meters for amps and volts and the voltage indicated during power cycles is unchanged. So it appears the voltage drop is at the rig. I can ever see dimming of the dial light in some situations. I don?t think the power supply is failing since I don?t notice these symptoms with any other rigs. And no, I never use the power supply for more than one rig at a time. > > From elecraftcovers at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 15:30:31 2016 From: elecraftcovers at gmail.com (Rose) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 13:30:31 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] R: Re: K3S losing swr-wattmeters indications on tx - please help In-Reply-To: References: <1556eb86085.glcazzola@alice.it> Message-ID: Odd ... I operate almost exclusively CW at 20 - 40 WPM with both a K3 (#0056) and a K2/100 (#5665) and have never experienced the problem you describe. FWIW, the K3 has been heavily used in numerous contests by KE7X. 73 K0PP On Jun 20, 2016 10:52 AM, "glcazzola at alice.it" wrote: Lucien, many thanks for your help. I am ashtonished. It is incredible that a great rig as the K3S doesnt have the simpler debouncing circuit on the key input, input obviously available for all mechanical kind of key, so with potential bounces. This afternoon I have written to elecraft support informing them about this problem.73 Ian IK4EWX ----Messaggio originale---- Da: lstavenhagen at hotmail.com Data: 19-giu-2016 18.37 A: Ogg: Re: [Elecraft] K3S losing swr-wattmeters indications on tx - please help Yes, both my K3 and a K3s do this when I key them with my bugs or with my straight key. Even my K2's will behave strangely, though not quite as bad as the K3 and s. It's not a problem with the rig; it's just a contact bounce issue, so you'll just need a debouncing circuit. Either an external keyer (most of them have debouncing circuitry in them) or you can home-brew one. There are a couple good circuits in the list archives. A capacitor across the bug terminals will help, say a .1 uf, but beware that it'll key the rig momentarily when you first plug it in as the cap charges. 73, LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3S-losing-swr-wattmeters-indications-on-tx-please-help-tp7618984p7618995.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to glcazzola at alice.it ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to elecraftcovers at gmail.com From ns9i2016 at Bayland.net Mon Jun 20 15:54:05 2016 From: ns9i2016 at Bayland.net ('DGB') Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 14:54:05 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <8e478b3b-8293-60dd-60b3-f8cb913b8b5b@montac.com> <57681D53.5020104@af2z.net> <8d9838aa-8146-dafe-2658-28123a887050@montac.com> Message-ID: Jim ... where does one find #10 twisted pair? Is it shielded? thanks 73 Dwight NS9I On 6/20/2016 12:59 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > On Mon,6/20/2016 10:33 AM, James Walker wrote: >> Is it normal to register voltage as low as I?m seeing on my K-3? > > What you're seeing sounds like IR drop in the DC cable. How long is > the DC cable between the K3 and the power supply? What wire gauge? Is > there any equipment (like distribution panel) in between? > > This is a great application for a short length of #10 twisted pair > between the PSU and rig. > > 73, Jim K9YC From glcazzola at alice.it Mon Jun 20 18:05:27 2016 From: glcazzola at alice.it (glcazzola at alice.it) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 00:05:27 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] R: R: Re: K3S losing swr-wattmeters indications on tx - please help In-Reply-To: References: <1556eb86085.glcazzola@alice.it> <1466446549399-7619062.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <20160620220527.6238290.57716.13385@alice.it> You are totally wrong dear friend. I have the problem closing with a single dash contact for two three second making a rapid tune and it happen with two first class bugs, a new Begali Intrepid and a Vibroplex Presentation ?with shining bright contacts and no audible bounces. If I work on K3S with these bugs generating normal dot and dash in a qso at 15-30wpm I havent the problem. So ?the problem is in the rig key input, or associated circuit and not in the key?. Keys that worked very well on an ft1000mp or TenTec Corsair II or on an old good Cubic Astro 102BXA. So, again, the problem is in the K3S transceiver input. Ian IK4EWX Invio?eseguito?dallo?smartphone?BlackBerry?10. ? Messaggio originale ? Da: Guy Olinger K2AV Inviato: luned? 20 giugno 2016 21:17 A: lstavenhagen Cc: Elecraft Reflector Oggetto: Re: [Elecraft] R: Re: K3S losing swr-wattmeters indications on tx - please help I have heard numbers like 90 and 100 wpm for operative QRQ for the K3, but don't have time to go research where I heard that. I *know* it runs sweet at 60 and 70 WPM. BTDT. But I will caution that certain problems with key contact surfaces will produce a signal impossible to debounce. These problems were *very* common with older bugs and straight keys. Having a single debouncing strategy for 90 wpm QRQ, and for degraded contact surfaces extremely common with bugs and old straight keys is probably an oxymoron. There is a reason that Vibroplex offers a resurfacing service for contacts on their products. Pitting and carbonizing from keying 250 volts at 150 milliamps, scratching, wearing, sandpapering (yes people did that), flattening, filing (yes people did that), yada, yada, yada. These were all huge issues in the day before common affordable electronic keyers, standalone and built-in, and polished single chip solutions like Win-Key. If I was a modern manufacturer and had a choice between servicing 90 wpm QRQ and debouncing bugs and straight keys with questionable contact surfaces, I would choose QRQ hands down. Not close. Easy smackdown choice for QRQ. Those of us who want to use the old stuff need to make allowances. Getting rid of key clicks in my Johnson Viking Ranger I is a problem I have never really conquered. And I can't bring myself to spend the bux to get the contacts on my Vibroplex bug resurfaced. That's *my* issue, not Elecraft's. Programming resources and subsequent testing for transceiver firmware is one of the most expensive components of any modern transceiver. Manufacturers have to make choices that will return a profit or they will go out of business. 73, Guy K2AV On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 2:15 PM, lstavenhagen wrote: > I imagine it's because of the QRQ support that it doesn't have dedicated > debouncing circuitry for straight keys, but I'm not sure about that. The K2 > does have some small caps across the key input, but it too still gives me > slight problems when I key it with my straight key. Though it's not as bad > as with the K3(s).. > > I'm just going to use an external keyer on mine, since I have other uses > for > a dedicated keyer in general. Most Curtis based keyers have debouncing > built-in for use with straight keys and bugs. > > 73 > LS > W5QD > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/R-Re-K3S-losing-swr-wattmeters-indications-on-tx-please-help-tp7619048p7619062.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2av.guy at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to glcazzola at alice.it From k4zrj at icloud.com Mon Jun 20 18:41:32 2016 From: k4zrj at icloud.com (Charles Johnson) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 18:41:32 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S losing swr-wattmeters indications on tx - please help In-Reply-To: <1466324177511-7618984.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1466324177511-7618984.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <91D25195-9EC9-44BA-A573-ADDFD721873B@icloud.com> I experienced this very problem when I upgraded my K3 to the new synthesizers. The problem would go away if I took out the new synthesizers and reinstalled the old ones. I contacted Wayne about this issue and finally narrowed it down to ?key bounce?. I was using high quality keys such as Begali. Apparently a software issue related to timings with the new synthesizers which has never been corrected. 73, Charles, K4ZRJ > On Jun 19, 2016, at 4:16 AM, IK4EWX wrote: > > I own a great K3S from a pair of months. It work great, dx, qsos, contest > (just worked CQWPX, 1200 qsos). > Just after bought it, sometime on cw transmission the swr-rf indications, > the moving black dots, gone all blanked, all on the swr and on RF > indications. > I thought about rfi problems, but it happened even with dummy load. And with > no swr on antenna. > With atu inserted is seemed more rarely happen. > This morning I have this problem happen at least on 14-18-21-24-28mhz, > keying the rig with my bug, only with long dash and not with dots string. > It is a rainy cloudy day, but I think that doesnt matter :) > When using the paddle with internal keyer I havent the problem. > It seem to happen only when keying at least 2-3 seconds long. > When it happen, with the two measurements blanked, the rig really continue > to transmit - I see regular power on my external Bird 43 wattmeter. > Somebody had this problem and know how to solve it? > Many thanks > Ian IK4EWX > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3S-losing-swr-wattmeters-indications-on-tx-please-help-tp7618984.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k4zrj at icloud.com From enzo.adrianreyes at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 19:03:42 2016 From: enzo.adrianreyes at gmail.com (Enzo Adrian-Reyes) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:03:42 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] Base Station Message-ID: I know this list is a bit biased, however I am trying to set up my base station, I currently own a KX3 and an ICOM 7100, and I have an antenna that is an inverted V diapole, (Diamon W8010), which is hosted 6m up in the air. My problem is I live nearby a lot of interference due to high voltage power lines, now, my dilemma is I want to get rid of my ICOM 7100, and I have to replace it with a base station, so is the KX3 with the addons good enough for base station op, or shuold I sell that and get a K3S perhaps a KX2 for mobile ops? I would like to do SOTA really, and have a portable handy, I am only allowed to transmit for the moment 10W any way, so k3s/10 should be enough to start with, however I have a bucketload of noise, my KX3 is under going repairs and I wont know when it will be back,hopefully its not too expensive as I will def blow my budget over many times. So any body here have any experience on running their KX3 as their main base station? if so how well does it do? Would a k3s be better? what advantage would I have with the K3S (baseline) compared to an upgraded KX3 (ATU, 2m, Roof filters fitted) I am worried about sensitivity, and ability to pick weak signals, as I have very little room to fit larger an better antennas so I have to kind of work with what I have. Regards From lstavenhagen at hotmail.com Mon Jun 20 19:13:58 2016 From: lstavenhagen at hotmail.com (lstavenhagen) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 16:13:58 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] R: Re: K3S losing swr-wattmeters indications on tx - please help In-Reply-To: References: <1556eb86085.glcazzola@alice.it> <1466446549399-7619062.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1466464438725-7619075.post@n2.nabble.com> Yeah, that's kind of how I've always thought of it, a "user is responsible for debouncing" type of thing. Especially the Dah paddle and my Kent straight key, when bouncing, may not be indistinguishable from a straight key going 100wpm as far as the rig is concerned LOL. So I never really thought of it as a problem with the rig itself, since reacting to contact bounce is working as designed! But this problem is as old as the hills and hasn't ever been a rig problem to my knowledge. Even in the ancient days as a child when I was driving my DX-60B with a straight key it could give a nasty buzzy Dah sometimes if I wasn't really firm on the key..... I've been too lazy lately and have just been living with it with my Kent, but I'm soon going to get a keyer for other purposes and I'll just default to using that from then on. 73, LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/R-Re-K3S-losing-swr-wattmeters-indications-on-tx-please-help-tp7619048p7619075.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From k9ma at sdellington.us Mon Jun 20 19:38:38 2016 From: k9ma at sdellington.us (K9MA) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 18:38:38 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <481a96b8-e6bd-315a-2c67-384a0498ec87@montac.com> References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <768828B9-AF69-479E-8E38-2FBEEC234B0F@yahoo.com> <5767E579.3000108@af2z.net> <0cadc172-874a-a55a-2778-9febeaadfb28@montac.com> <4D6DF20BAD0B4CB5B88E3534808CE984@Paramount> <481a96b8-e6bd-315a-2c67-384a0498ec87@montac.com> Message-ID: <96E7356B-96B6-4CF6-A7E7-78ACED369CF4@sdellington.us> Beware ground loops! 73, Scott. K9MA ---------- Scott Ellington --- via iPad > On Jun 20, 2016, at 12:21 PM, Clay Autery wrote: > > Thanks... > > One of my goals is to completely eliminate wall warts in my shack. I > planned to use a nice quiet multi-voltage output PS(s) and/or buck/boost > converters (or other circuitry) to supply power to every device in the > shack.... reducing the clutter/complexity/potential culprits. > Now, I am considering modifying that plan to battery(ies) with quiet > charger(s) and circuitry to provide required voltages for all devices. > Then move out and do the same for the home network, and all other DC > devices... > > ______________________ > Clay Autery, KY5G > MONTAC Enterprises > (318) 518-1389 > >> On 6/20/2016 12:06 PM, G4GNX wrote: >> FWIW I still have a few issues with RFi, but I've managed to cure two >> of the major ones, the rest are a matter of finding time. >> >> At present, I'm running an MFJ 1500W auto-tuner which needs a 12V >> supply for the display, logic and relays. I had a massive drifting >> "birdie" on 40 metres, but it didn't always appear on the same >> frequency. I found that it shifted frequency with minor changes in >> load, caused by using different relays within the tuner. I replaced >> the switch mode PSU and all is now good. >> >> The second major issue was mainly on 2 metres, but there were also >> sprogs on other bands. This turned out to be a PC PSU which despite an >> application of ferrite rings, would not lie down! I found that if the >> PC was put into 'sleep' mode, it would go quiet. I finally replaced >> the PSU - problem solved. >> >> Just a few thoughts on what you might look for. >> >> 73, >> >> Alan. G4GNX > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k9ma at sdellington.us From k3ndm at comcast.net Mon Jun 20 19:43:42 2016 From: k3ndm at comcast.net (Barry LaZar) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 23:43:42 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Base Station In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Enzo, I may be a little more than a little biased, but I would say a KX3 makes an excellent base station. The only add ons that I can think you might want are the ATU and mic. If you use the 8 KHz shift, you can't use the optional roofing filter. Everything else you need is already there. Elecraft supplied the connector with I&Q signals out. From that you connect up to a good, wideband sound card and you have spectrum display out to about 125 KHz. That same data can be used with CW Skimmer for viewing as much bandwidth as can be displayed but limited to the parameters of the sound card. If you use Win4K3 and Hamradio Deluxe with your KX3, you can have a fully integrated station operation, from spot to contact to log. If you contest as I do with my KX3, you can use contest logging software with your spectrum display, you now have a serious contest station. Power line noise is a problem regardless of the radio. The DSP in the KX3 does a pretty fair job on noise around here, but nothing is perfect. Bottom line in my opinion is the KX3 addresses more issues than any other radio I know. It doesn't have a second receiver, but I believe using a spectrum display is better for many things. The K3 and K3S both can have a second receiver that can be put on another band other than the one you are working. That is handy for operators with the skill to use this capability; I'm not one. The KX3's performance is not quite what the K3S has or the upgraded K3, but for ~90% or maybe more, it sure does do the job. Since you are thinking SOTA, meaning portable, the KX3 works marvelously for that. When you are finished, you bring the KX3 home and connect the radio to its amplifier and you get your base back. All of today's radios have adequate sensitivity to hear weak signals. The limitations today are associated with ambient noise; power lines, plasma TVs, switching power supplies, etc. A good antenna helps but the real receiver issues are dynamic range and reciprocal mixing caused by your LO. The KX3 holds up really well in this area. I live on a small urban lot. I have a 40 meter center fed dipole and a 40 meter delta loop. I have DXCC mixed, CW, and SSB. I have 156 countries confirmed on 20, 15, and 10 with 50 on 80 and 87 on 40. All of this was using my KX3. This weekend my KX3 will join several others for Field Day, We operate 3AB, QRP. We took second last year in this fairly competitive category. We fully expect to win this year. Hopefully, I've answered your questions and addressed your concerns. 73, Barry K3NDM ------ Original Message ------ From: "Enzo Adrian-Reyes" To: "Elecraft List" Sent: 6/20/2016 7:03:42 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Base Station >I know this list is a bit biased, however I am trying to set up my base >station, I currently own a KX3 and an ICOM 7100, and I have an antenna >that >is an inverted V diapole, (Diamon W8010), which is hosted 6m up in the >air. > >My problem is I live nearby a lot of interference due to high voltage >power >lines, now, my dilemma is >I want to get rid of my ICOM 7100, and I have to replace it with a base >station, so is the KX3 with the addons good enough for base station op, >or >shuold I sell that and get a K3S perhaps a KX2 for mobile ops? I would >like >to do SOTA really, and have a portable handy, I am only allowed to >transmit >for the moment 10W any way, so k3s/10 should be enough to start with, >however I have a bucketload of noise, my KX3 is under going repairs and >I >wont know when it will be back,hopefully its not too expensive as I >will >def blow my budget over many times. > >So any body here have any experience on running their KX3 as their main >base station? if so how well does it do? Would a k3s be better? what >advantage would I have with the K3S (baseline) compared to an upgraded >KX3 >(ATU, 2m, Roof filters fitted) > >I am worried about sensitivity, and ability to pick weak signals, as I >have >very little room to fit larger an better antennas so I have to kind of >work >with what I have. > >Regards >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to k3ndm at comcast.net From ne2i at yahoo.com Mon Jun 20 20:15:52 2016 From: ne2i at yahoo.com (George Cortez) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 00:15:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KRC2 wanted References: <739136076.6353745.1466468152487.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <739136076.6353745.1466468152487.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Anyone have a KRC2 They are willing to sell. I am in need of one.Thanks George NE2I From hhoyt at mebtel.net Mon Jun 20 20:17:51 2016 From: hhoyt at mebtel.net (Howard Hoyt) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 20:17:51 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 146, Issue 28 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all, It is true that for fixed operation, weight and size would not be a factor. For portable operation both are critical, and a true 3A 14V 42W linear supply is neither light nor small. Even the 2A 12V (24W) linear supplies we have evaluated are over 32 ounces, are low duty-cycle, and very poorly regulated to boot, not to mention incapable of driving a KX3 to full power. Most amateur radio equipment such as the KX2, KX3, K3S etc are optimized to operate with 13.8V nominal to achieve low IMD at full power in the PA stage. Under full load most 12V wall-wart supplies will deliver ~10-11V with a lot of ripple. As many are commenting, switching supplies can contribute quite a bit of RFI, and many have VERY poor voltage regulation on load dump, as when you drop out of transmit to receive. At least one report here on this list has blamed destruction of their rig on this type of supply flaw. (commercial content) This situation was the driver for developing the Pro Audio Engineering Kx33 supply. It is small, weighs ~12 ounces with AC cord, can deliver 14V at 4A continuous (56W) and is extremely low-RFI. It is very popular for portable operation with the KX2 & KX3 for these reasons. Please check the website for more info if you are interested. Cheers & 73, Howard Hoyt - WA4PSC On 6/20/2016 1:33 PM, elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net wrote: > I > have had my kx3 for three plus years and have been on many lists and most > everyone wants a smps instead of a small 3 amp linear supply. Radio Shack > and many others made these supply's and they are plentiful at Hamfests for > 10-20 USD. It seems like a lot of folks operate from home and want a smps . > Why, if the weight would not be a factor, do folks want to take a chance on > a potentially noisy ps ? From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Mon Jun 20 20:26:59 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 17:26:59 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <96E7356B-96B6-4CF6-A7E7-78ACED369CF4@sdellington.us> References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <768828B9-AF69-479E-8E38-2FBEEC234B0F@yahoo.com> <5767E579.3000108@af2z.net> <0cadc172-874a-a55a-2778-9febeaadfb28@montac.com> <4D6DF20BAD0B4CB5B88E3534808CE984@Paramount> <481a96b8-e6bd-315a-2c67-384a0498ec87@montac.com> <96E7356B-96B6-4CF6-A7E7-78ACED369CF4@sdellington.us> Message-ID: <5d4ccc87-7b66-343e-28b1-d104ee9aee66@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Mon,6/20/2016 4:38 PM, K9MA wrote: > Beware ground loops! Horse puckey -- ground loops do not exist, and this very false concept has caused hams to do completely wrong things to solve problems with hum, buzz, and RFI. http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf 73, Jim K9YC From k6dgw at foothill.net Mon Jun 20 20:29:38 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 17:29:38 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <96E7356B-96B6-4CF6-A7E7-78ACED369CF4@sdellington.us> References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <768828B9-AF69-479E-8E38-2FBEEC234B0F@yahoo.com> <5767E579.3000108@af2z.net> <0cadc172-874a-a55a-2778-9febeaadfb28@montac.com> <4D6DF20BAD0B4CB5B88E3534808CE984@Paramount> <481a96b8-e6bd-315a-2c67-384a0498ec87@montac.com> <96E7356B-96B6-4CF6-A7E7-78ACED369CF4@sdellington.us> Message-ID: I've been told that the "loop" part of "ground loop" is a misnomer. I think the real problem is when a "chassis" connection doesn't really go to the conductive enclosure but rather follows on into the "ground" in the circuitry, which is probably better termed "common". In the olden days, finding a connection to the "chassis" [i.e. enclosure] was a snap. They were big, heavy, and obvious. Not so much today. Finding the "chassis" connection on a laptop can be a challenge. 73, Fred K6DGW Sparks NV Washoe County DM09dn On 6/20/2016 4:38 PM, K9MA wrote: > Beware ground loops! > > 73, > > Scott. K9MA From w0mbt at w0mbt.net Mon Jun 20 20:34:42 2016 From: w0mbt at w0mbt.net (Bruce Nourish) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 00:34:42 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Base Station In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I use the KX3 as a base station, with a PX3, KXPA100, external paddle, external speakers, and an old laptop. The biggest negative, I feel, is the amount of cabling I have ended up with. It requires assiduous use of cable ties to prevent my shack from turning into a cat's cradle. Reconfiguring from digital to voice requires some fiddly plugging and unplugging, and taking the KX3 out portable requires a _lot_ of it. With a K3(S), there'd be a lot less cable, and it would hardly ever change. Of course, I wouldn't even try to take it portable more than once a year, but now having the KX2, it will be interesting to see if I take my KX3 out of the house much at all. My shack is still amazing, and is much more capable than its operator, but cabling is its downside. Bruce On Mon, Jun 20, 2016, 16:44 Barry LaZar wrote: > Enzo, > I may be a little more than a little biased, but I would say a KX3 > makes an excellent base station. The only add ons that I can think you > might want are the ATU and mic. If you use the 8 KHz shift, you can't > use the optional roofing filter. Everything else you need is already > there. > > Elecraft supplied the connector with I&Q signals out. From that you > connect up to a good, wideband sound card and you have spectrum display > out to about 125 KHz. That same data can be used with CW Skimmer for > viewing as much bandwidth as can be displayed but limited to the > parameters of the sound card. > > If you use Win4K3 and Hamradio Deluxe with your KX3, you can have a > fully integrated station operation, from spot to contact to log. > > If you contest as I do with my KX3, you can use contest logging > software with your spectrum display, you now have a serious contest > station. > > Power line noise is a problem regardless of the radio. The DSP in > the KX3 does a pretty fair job on noise around here, but nothing is > perfect. > > Bottom line in my opinion is the KX3 addresses more issues than any > other radio I know. It doesn't have a second receiver, but I believe > using a spectrum display is better for many things. The K3 and K3S both > can have a second receiver that can be put on another band other than > the one you are working. That is handy for operators with the skill to > use this capability; I'm not one. The KX3's performance is not quite > what the K3S has or the upgraded K3, but for ~90% or maybe more, it sure > does do the job. > > Since you are thinking SOTA, meaning portable, the KX3 works > marvelously for that. When you are finished, you bring the KX3 home and > connect the radio to its amplifier and you get your base back. > > All of today's radios have adequate sensitivity to hear weak > signals. The limitations today are associated with ambient noise; power > lines, plasma TVs, switching power supplies, etc. A good antenna helps > but the real receiver issues are dynamic range and reciprocal mixing > caused by your LO. The KX3 holds up really well in this area. > > I live on a small urban lot. I have a 40 meter center fed dipole and > a 40 meter delta loop. I have DXCC mixed, CW, and SSB. I have 156 > countries confirmed on 20, 15, and 10 with 50 on 80 and 87 on 40. All of > this was using my KX3. > > This weekend my KX3 will join several others for Field Day, We > operate 3AB, QRP. We took second last year in this fairly competitive > category. We fully expect to win this year. > > Hopefully, I've answered your questions and addressed your concerns. > > 73, > Barry > K3NDM > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Enzo Adrian-Reyes" > To: "Elecraft List" > Sent: 6/20/2016 7:03:42 PM > Subject: [Elecraft] Base Station > > >I know this list is a bit biased, however I am trying to set up my base > >station, I currently own a KX3 and an ICOM 7100, and I have an antenna > >that > >is an inverted V diapole, (Diamon W8010), which is hosted 6m up in the > >air. > > > >My problem is I live nearby a lot of interference due to high voltage > >power > >lines, now, my dilemma is > >I want to get rid of my ICOM 7100, and I have to replace it with a base > >station, so is the KX3 with the addons good enough for base station op, > >or > >shuold I sell that and get a K3S perhaps a KX2 for mobile ops? I would > >like > >to do SOTA really, and have a portable handy, I am only allowed to > >transmit > >for the moment 10W any way, so k3s/10 should be enough to start with, > >however I have a bucketload of noise, my KX3 is under going repairs and > >I > >wont know when it will be back,hopefully its not too expensive as I > >will > >def blow my budget over many times. > > > >So any body here have any experience on running their KX3 as their main > >base station? if so how well does it do? Would a k3s be better? what > >advantage would I have with the K3S (baseline) compared to an upgraded > >KX3 > >(ATU, 2m, Roof filters fitted) > > > >I am worried about sensitivity, and ability to pick weak signals, as I > >have > >very little room to fit larger an better antennas so I have to kind of > >work > >with what I have. > > > >Regards > >______________________________________________________________ > >Elecraft mailing list > >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >Message delivered to k3ndm at comcast.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w0mbt at w0mbt.net > From w2lj at verizon.net Mon Jun 20 20:38:37 2016 From: w2lj at verizon.net (Larry W2LJ) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 20:38:37 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Skeeter Roster posted Message-ID: Happy 1st Day of Summer! Thank you to the first 55 intrepid QRPers who have signed up for Skeeter numbers. The roster can be found at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KJWpvDDBZibCMqna_qGXF3Ayg8KdEw5f1N8K6ByGMe4/edit#gid=880964485 This year's rules can be found at www.qsl.net/w2lj Remember, there's still plenty of time to sign up to be a Skeeter - right up until August 29th - but why wait? 72 de Larry W2LJ NJQRP Skeeter Hunt Manager From mike at mdodd.com Mon Jun 20 21:02:28 2016 From: mike at mdodd.com (Mike Dodd) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 21:02:28 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Base Station In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57689224.2090604@mdodd.com> On 6/20/2016 7:03 PM, Enzo Adrian-Reyes wrote: > So any body here have any experience on running their KX3 as their main > base station? if so how well does it do? Would a k3s be better? what > advantage would I have with the K3S (baseline) compared to an upgraded KX3 > (ATU, 2m, Roof filters fitted) I used a KX3 + KXPA100 + PX3 as a base station for three years, and it worked very well. I live in a quiet area, so can't offer advice about noise reduction. I did upgrade to a K3s recently. One reason was "rig envy" :-) but another was to eliminate a jumble of cables and plugs to the left of the KX3. I had plugs for a boom mic, a headset/mic, a CW key, and audio I/O for a SignaLink for AFSK. Oh yes, a foot switch for PTT wired into the mic plugs meant I had to crawl under the desk to swap 1/4" phone plugs when I changed from the boom mic to the headset. It was a mess! The K3 lets me leave everything plugged, most on the rear panel, so the desk is much neater now. Another K3s benefit is the built-in USB sound card. That eliminates the SignaLink and its associated audio and PTT cables. The K3 receiver seems more sensitive than the KX3, but I've never done a side-by-side comparison, so I can't say for sure. I really liked the PX3's two-line display of the KX3's decoded CW. Sadly, the P3 needs an accessory SVGA card and external monitor to get this feature. In short, the KX3 and accessories made a very nice base station. -- 73, Mike N4CF Louisa County, VA USA Elecraft K3s/100 Carolina Windom up 45' http://n4cf.mdodd.com From k9ma at sdellington.us Mon Jun 20 21:50:30 2016 From: k9ma at sdellington.us (K9MA) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 20:50:30 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <5d4ccc87-7b66-343e-28b1-d104ee9aee66@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <768828B9-AF69-479E-8E38-2FBEEC234B0F@yahoo.com> <5767E579.3000108@af2z.net> <0cadc172-874a-a55a-2778-9febeaadfb28@montac.com> <4D6DF20BAD0B4CB5B88E3534808CE984@Paramount> <481a96b8-e6bd-315a-2c67-384a0498ec87@montac.com> <96E7356B-96B6-4CF6-A7E7-78ACED369CF4@sdellington.us> <5d4ccc87-7b66-343e-28b1-d104ee9aee66@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: Call them what you will, connecting a bunch of station components to a common DC power return has to be done very carefully. I've found that often the easiest solution is isolated power sources. Some accessories seem to be designed with the assumption of ground isolation using a dedicated wall wart. But I'm not going to argue about it. 73, Scott. K9MA ---------- Scott Ellington --- via iPad > On Jun 20, 2016, at 7:26 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > >> On Mon,6/20/2016 4:38 PM, K9MA wrote: >> Beware ground loops! > > Horse puckey -- ground loops do not exist, and this very false concept has caused hams to do completely wrong things to solve problems with hum, buzz, and RFI. > > http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf > > 73, Jim K9YC > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k9ma at sdellington.us From frantz at pwpconsult.com Mon Jun 20 22:10:29 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 19:10:29 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Base Station In-Reply-To: Message-ID: While I agree about the usefulness of a spectrum display we should note that the KX3 has Dual Watch which permits listening to the pileup with one ear while listening to the DX with the other. I covers most of the issues in working pileups. I do remember one of the W1AW/P operators, wanting to work EU only, transmitting on the US SSB subband, but listening down in the CW band. That strategy made it illegal for US stations to call him. I also made his split too wide for the KX3 dual watch. But these kinds of situations are really very very rare. 73 Bill AE6JV On 6/20/16 at 4:43 PM, k3ndm at comcast.net (Barry LaZar) wrote: >Bottom line in my opinion is the KX3 addresses more issues than >any other radio I know. It doesn't have a second receiver, but >I believe using a spectrum display is better for many things. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | I like the farmers' market | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | because I can get fruits and | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | vegetables without stickers. | Los Gatos, CA 95032 From zumbruns at comcast.net Mon Jun 20 23:15:05 2016 From: zumbruns at comcast.net (STEPHEN R) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 03:15:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Digital Readout In-Reply-To: <133664364.24355373.1466478775283.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1739067962.24355947.1466478905421.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> My digital frequency readout suddenly loses part of the digits. If I tap on the top of the receiver above the digital readout the readout returns to normal. Has anyone seen this before? Thanks and 73, Steve W0SZ From k3ndm at comcast.net Mon Jun 20 23:53:38 2016 From: k3ndm at comcast.net (Barry LaZar) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 03:53:38 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Base Station In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Bill, I am aware that the KX3 has dual watch. It's like having a second receiver but limited in frequency excursion. I also have a Tentec Orion II which does have a second receiver. Here's what I've sort of discovered. I came to find that I could zoom the spectrum to blow it up around the pile up. I could see who the DX station was working. I leave my receiver on the DX station, and use VFO B to move my transmit frequency to the station he is working. When he, the DX station, sends TU or QRZ, I drop my call in. Remember the DX station's receiver is still tuned to his last contact. If it turns out that I've walked into a really nasty pile up, like on a really rare one or DXpedition, I find out how he is operating. He probably is working split and is going a bit up and then down, 1-5 KHz up from his transmitting frequency. I can find a hole in the pile up and wait. With a second receiver, you'll need to tune to find a hole and you may not be sure what is happening. I can see faster than I can tune. When I figured this out, I no longer used a second receiver or dual watch, and my success rate went up. My take on the need to have a second receiver is it's very useful contesting by the really good/high scoring operators; I am no where being in that group called good contesters. These operator hang out on a single frequency and call CQ; you hear these guys in all the big contests. They will tune around with their second receiver, OR, put the #2 receiver on another band to see if it's hot so that they can time a switch. With my little antenna farm, it really isn't realistic to expect that I could hold a frequency, so running isn't going to be in my future. But I sure can search and pounce, and using a spectrum display does allow me to maximize my QSO rate and break pile ups. 73, Barry K3NDM ------ Original Message ------ From: "Bill Frantz" To: "Elecraft List" Cc: "Enzo Adrian-Reyes" ; "Barry LaZar" Sent: 6/20/2016 10:10:29 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Base Station >While I agree about the usefulness of a spectrum display we should note >that the KX3 has Dual Watch which permits listening to the pileup with >one ear while listening to the DX with the other. I covers most of the >issues in working pileups. > >I do remember one of the W1AW/P operators, wanting to work EU only, >transmitting on the US SSB subband, but listening down in the CW band. >That strategy made it illegal for US stations to call him. I also made >his split too wide for the KX3 dual watch. But these kinds of >situations are really very very rare. > >73 Bill AE6JV > >On 6/20/16 at 4:43 PM, k3ndm at comcast.net (Barry LaZar) wrote: > >>Bottom line in my opinion is the KX3 addresses more issues than any >>other radio I know. It doesn't have a second receiver, but I believe >>using a spectrum display is better for many things. >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >Bill Frantz | I like the farmers' market | Periwinkle >(408)356-8506 | because I can get fruits and | 16345 Englewood Ave >www.pwpconsult.com | vegetables without stickers. | Los Gatos, CA 95032 > From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 00:44:19 2016 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 07:44:19 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <8e478b3b-8293-60dd-60b3-f8cb913b8b5b@montac.com> <57681D53.5020104@af2z.net> <8d9838aa-8146-dafe-2658-28123a887050@montac.com> Message-ID: <2B0EE81B-93BD-4E48-A6F1-D245A11FD9A0@gmail.com> Get some no. 10 stranded wire at Home Depot (etc.), double it over, put one end in a vise and the other in the chuck of your electric drill and twist away. Not shielded, but much better than parallel wires. I suppose you could strip some RG-8 if you really wanted to shield it. Vic 4X6GP > On 20 Jun 2016, at 22:54, DGB wrote: > > > Jim ... where does one find #10 twisted pair? Is it shielded? > > thanks 73 Dwight NS9I > >> On 6/20/2016 12:59 PM, Jim Brown wrote: >>> On Mon,6/20/2016 10:33 AM, James Walker wrote: >>> Is it normal to register voltage as low as I?m seeing on my K-3? >> >> What you're seeing sounds like IR drop in the DC cable. How long is the DC cable between the K3 and the power supply? What wire gauge? Is there any equipment (like distribution panel) in between? >> >> This is a great application for a short length of #10 twisted pair between the PSU and rig. >> >> 73, Jim K9YC > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2vco.vic at gmail.com From k6dgw at foothill.net Tue Jun 21 01:19:43 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred C. Jensen) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 22:19:43 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft] RFI on K3s Message-ID: <1d11stfd7yfo76dt93fedwvq.1466486383769@email.android.com> Home Depot is in Israel too? Fred K6DGW Vic Rosenthal wrote: >Get some no. 10 stranded wire at Home Depot (etc.), double it over, put one end in a vise and the other in the chuck of your electric drill and twist away. Not shielded, but much better than parallel wires. I suppose you could strip some RG-8 if you really wanted to shield it. > >Vic 4X6GP > >> On 20 Jun 2016, at 22:54, DGB wrote: >> >> >> Jim ... where does one find #10 twisted pair? Is it shielded? >> >> thanks 73 Dwight NS9I >> >>> On 6/20/2016 12:59 PM, Jim Brown wrote: >>>> On Mon,6/20/2016 10:33 AM, James Walker wrote: >>>> Is it normal to register voltage as low as I?m seeing on my K-3? >>> >>> What you're seeing sounds like IR drop in the DC cable. How long is the DC cable between the K3 and the power supply? What wire gauge? Is there any equipment (like distribution panel) in between? >>> >>> This is a great application for a short length of #10 twisted pair between the PSU and rig. >>> >>> 73, Jim K9YC >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k2vco.vic at gmail.com >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to k6dgw at foothill.net From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 02:19:05 2016 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:19:05 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <1d11stfd7yfo76dt93fedwvq.1466486383769@email.android.com> References: <1d11stfd7yfo76dt93fedwvq.1466486383769@email.android.com> Message-ID: <9f97acbc-817a-fb2d-459b-97b8869595b8@gmail.com> No, unfortunately. There is a large Ace Hardware near me and places to buy building materials, but it's the not the same. 73, Vic, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 21 Jun 2016 08:19, Fred C. Jensen wrote: > Home Depot is in Israel too? > > Fred K6DGW > > Vic Rosenthal wrote: >> Get some no. 10 stranded wire at Home Depot (etc.), double it over, put one end in a vise and the other in the chuck of your electric drill and twist away. Not shielded, but much better than parallel wires. I suppose you could strip some RG-8 if you really wanted to shield it. >> >> Vic 4X6GP >> >>> On 20 Jun 2016, at 22:54, DGB wrote: >>> >>> >>> Jim ... where does one find #10 twisted pair? Is it shielded? >>> >>> thanks 73 Dwight NS9I >>> >>>> On 6/20/2016 12:59 PM, Jim Brown wrote: >>>>> On Mon,6/20/2016 10:33 AM, James Walker wrote: >>>>> Is it normal to register voltage as low as I?m seeing on my K-3? >>>> >>>> What you're seeing sounds like IR drop in the DC cable. How long is the DC cable between the K3 and the power supply? What wire gauge? Is there any equipment (like distribution panel) in between? >>>> >>>> This is a great application for a short length of #10 twisted pair between the PSU and rig. >>>> >>>> 73, Jim K9YC From G4GNX at theatreorgans.co.uk Tue Jun 21 04:12:44 2016 From: G4GNX at theatreorgans.co.uk (G4GNX - Alan) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:12:44 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <5FA3AE42-E7F3-4402-8B4D-40D81C37B72A@gmail.com> References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <768828B9-AF69-479E-8E38-2FBEEC234B0F@yahoo.com> <5767E579.3000108@af2z.net> <0cadc172-874a-a55a-2778-9febeaadfb28@montac.com> <4D6DF20BAD0B4CB5B88E3534808CE984@Paramount> <5FA3AE42-E7F3-4402-8B4D-40D81C37B72A@gmail.com> Message-ID: If that question was directed at me, the answer is that my issues were not using my K3 and I only needed to turn off the tuner supply. 73, Alan. G4GNX -----Original Message----- From: Ramon Tristani Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 6:14 PM To: G4GNX Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s How can you detect the drifting if RF if Iyou have to turn off the K-3 and the P3? From vk1zzgary at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 06:10:02 2016 From: vk1zzgary at gmail.com (Gary Gregory) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 20:10:02 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] External Speaker Message-ID: I was searching the Elecraft website and was unable to find much information on the SP3. Did I miss something? I found the cost and a nice photo but wanted some more detail such as specs. Gary -- *Gary - VK1ZZ, K3NHLSkype: Gary.VK1ZZhttp://www.qsl.net/vk1zz Motorhome Portable* *Miss Behavin'* *Elecraft K3KPA500FT #18KAT500FT #007* From john at eeek.org.uk Tue Jun 21 06:29:26 2016 From: john at eeek.org.uk (John) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 11:29:26 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] W2 problem In-Reply-To: <1988856524.466612.1466434977811.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxbe10.tb.ukmail.iss.as9143.net> References: <1988856524.466612.1466434977811.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxbe10.tb.ukmail.iss.as9143.net> Message-ID: <079d01d1cba7$c9456400$5bd02c00$@eeek.org.uk> Hi All, I'd be interested in the answers to this, as my W2 also recently lost the same R10 component. And especially the answers about the Ethernet/signal cables too... 73, and a firm left handshake, John (2E0XLX) -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of STEPHEN BUNTING Sent: 20 June 2016 16:03 To: elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] W2 problem Hi everyone, I have a little used W2 wattmeter that has stopped working, but I have recently had access to a working unit so I could test the display and sensor unit independently. Both of mine have faults - The display has lost port nr 1 and it looks like R10 has been damaged on the PCB. What physical size is this resistor? I can see from the cct diagram that it is 330R. I don't do much SMD work so don't recognise the physical sizes..... My 2KW HF sensor displays high SWR and low power into a known good load when used with my friends "good" W2. I cant see any physical problems, so how do I go about fault finding this or getting it fixed? Can I use a regular Ethernet cable to connect display and sensor? I used one to test my display with a known good sensor on port 2, but sometimes the display went haywire whilst on the air. I see elecraft supply a flat 8P8C RJ45 cable, so I guess there is an engineering reason for that? Thanks for your advice! 73 Steve, M0BPQ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to john at eeek.org.uk From M0XDF at Alphadene.co.uk Tue Jun 21 08:40:57 2016 From: M0XDF at Alphadene.co.uk (David Ferrington, M0XDF) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 13:40:57 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] W2 problem In-Reply-To: <079d01d1cba7$c9456400$5bd02c00$@eeek.org.uk> References: <1988856524.466612.1466434977811.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxbe10.tb.ukmail.iss.as9143.net> <079d01d1cba7$c9456400$5bd02c00$@eeek.org.uk> Message-ID: At a guess, because it's simple to crimp. I doubt that the normal twisted pairs of CAT5 was the reason to not use it. -73 de M0XDF (from my iPhone) > On 21 Jun 2016, at 11:29, John wrote: > > . I see elecraft supply a flat 8P8C > RJ45 cable, so I guess there is an engineering reason for that? From tony.kaz at verizon.net Tue Jun 21 09:19:59 2016 From: tony.kaz at verizon.net (N2TK, Tony) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:19:59 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - extra boards - K3SYN Message-ID: <003701d1cbbf$9cd26040$d67720c0$@verizon.net> I am assuming there is are no uses or needs for K3SYN boards, correct? I got 4 to heave out. 73, N2TK, Tony From jh3sif at sumaq.jp Tue Jun 21 09:27:26 2016 From: jh3sif at sumaq.jp (Keith Onishi) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 22:27:26 +0900 Subject: [Elecraft] External Speaker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3BF903FD-6101-4A52-8838-57E331C05B44@sumaq.jp> Here is SP3 manual; http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740273%20SP3%20Owner's%20Manual.pdf de JH3SIF, Keith > 2016/06/21 19:10?Gary Gregory ????? > > I was searching the Elecraft website and was unable to find much > information on the SP3. > > Did I miss something? > > I found the cost and a nice photo but wanted some more detail such as specs. > > Gary > > -- > > > > *Gary - VK1ZZ, K3NHLSkype: Gary.VK1ZZhttp://www.qsl.net/vk1zz > Motorhome Portable* > *Miss Behavin'* > > > *Elecraft K3KPA500FT #18KAT500FT #007* > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jh3sif at sumaq.jp From n5ge at n5ge.com Tue Jun 21 09:44:27 2016 From: n5ge at n5ge.com (Amateur Radio Operator N5GE) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 08:44:27 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <2B0EE81B-93BD-4E48-A6F1-D245A11FD9A0@gmail.com> References: <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <8e478b3b-8293-60dd-60b3-f8cb913b8b5b@montac.com> <57681D53.5020104@af2z.net> <8d9838aa-8146-dafe-2658-28123a887050@montac.com> <2B0EE81B-93BD-4E48-A6F1-D245A11FD9A0@gmail.com> Message-ID: Works great! Do it all the time. Father showed me how 50 years ago, the same way Vic describes it ;o) On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 07:44:19 +0300, you wrote: >Get some no. 10 stranded wire at Home Depot (etc.), double it over, put one end in a vise and the other in the chuck of your electric drill and twist away. Not shielded, but much better than parallel wires. I suppose you could strip some RG-8 if you really wanted to shield it. > >Vic 4X6GP > >> On 20 Jun 2016, at 22:54, DGB wrote: >> >> >> Jim ... where does one find #10 twisted pair? Is it shielded? >> >> thanks 73 Dwight NS9I >> >>> On 6/20/2016 12:59 PM, Jim Brown wrote: >>>> On Mon,6/20/2016 10:33 AM, James Walker wrote: >>>> Is it normal to register voltage as low as I?m seeing on my K-3? >>> >>> What you're seeing sounds like IR drop in the DC cable. How long is the DC cable between the K3 and the power supply? What wire gauge? Is there any equipment (like distribution panel) in between? >>> >>> This is a great application for a short length of #10 twisted pair between the PSU and rig. >>> >>> 73, Jim K9YC >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k2vco.vic at gmail.com >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to n5ge at n5ge.com ARS N5GE From pubx1 at af2z.net Tue Jun 21 10:27:23 2016 From: pubx1 at af2z.net (Drew AF2Z) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 10:27:23 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <2B0EE81B-93BD-4E48-A6F1-D245A11FD9A0@gmail.com> References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <8e478b3b-8293-60dd-60b3-f8cb913b8b5b@montac.com> <57681D53.5020104@af2z.net> <8d9838aa-8146-dafe-2658-28123a887050@montac.com> <2B0EE81B-93BD-4E48-A6F1-D245A11FD9A0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <57694ECB.3040600@af2z.net> Also, the Elecraft supplied DC zip cord can be twisted by hand pretty easily. RFI from wall-wart SMPS supplies might be improved by twisting their cords... 73, Drew AF2Z On 06/21/16 00:44, Vic Rosenthal wrote: > Get some no. 10 stranded wire at Home Depot (etc.), double it over, put one end in a vise and the other in the chuck of your electric drill and twist away. Not shielded, but much better than parallel wires. I suppose you could strip some RG-8 if you really wanted to shield it. > > Vic 4X6GP > >> On 20 Jun 2016, at 22:54, DGB wrote: >> >> >> Jim ... where does one find #10 twisted pair? Is it shielded? >> >> thanks 73 Dwight NS9I >> From wunder at wunderwood.org Tue Jun 21 10:48:20 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 07:48:20 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <9f97acbc-817a-fb2d-459b-97b8869595b8@gmail.com> References: <1d11stfd7yfo76dt93fedwvq.1466486383769@email.android.com> <9f97acbc-817a-fb2d-459b-97b8869595b8@gmail.com> Message-ID: Belen appears to make a 10 AWG twisted pair cable, but I only see it available in 500 foot spools. Search for "Belden 8678?. https://www.anixter.com/en_us/products/5T00UP-008500/BELDEN/Multi-Pair-Multi-Conductor-Cable/p/B5T00UP-500 http://www.alliedelec.com/belden-8678-060500/70004200/ http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Belden-Wire-Cable/8678-060500/?qs=GjJS1gozy%2FMvzJLBfKAfoA%3D%3D Might be worth organizing a group or club purchase. Or maybe PowerWerx could carry it. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jun 20, 2016, at 11:19 PM, Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: > > No, unfortunately. > There is a large Ace Hardware near me and places to buy building materials, but it's the not the same. > > 73, > Vic, 4X6GP > Rehovot, Israel > Formerly K2VCO > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > > On 21 Jun 2016 08:19, Fred C. Jensen wrote: >> Home Depot is in Israel too? >> >> Fred K6DGW >> >> Vic Rosenthal wrote: >>> Get some no. 10 stranded wire at Home Depot (etc.), double it over, put one end in a vise and the other in the chuck of your electric drill and twist away. Not shielded, but much better than parallel wires. I suppose you could strip some RG-8 if you really wanted to shield it. >>> >>> Vic 4X6GP >>> >>>> On 20 Jun 2016, at 22:54, DGB wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Jim ... where does one find #10 twisted pair? Is it shielded? >>>> >>>> thanks 73 Dwight NS9I >>>> >>>>> On 6/20/2016 12:59 PM, Jim Brown wrote: >>>>>> On Mon,6/20/2016 10:33 AM, James Walker wrote: >>>>>> Is it normal to register voltage as low as I?m seeing on my K-3? >>>>> >>>>> What you're seeing sounds like IR drop in the DC cable. How long is the DC cable between the K3 and the power supply? What wire gauge? Is there any equipment (like distribution panel) in between? >>>>> >>>>> This is a great application for a short length of #10 twisted pair between the PSU and rig. >>>>> >>>>> 73, Jim K9YC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From k2av.guy at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 11:08:54 2016 From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 11:08:54 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: <1d11stfd7yfo76dt93fedwvq.1466486383769@email.android.com> <9f97acbc-817a-fb2d-459b-97b8869595b8@gmail.com> Message-ID: If one has a source of the red/black #10 zip cord (seemingly very common in the US), then simply zip it apart, and then twist it yourself. Then you still have the advantage of the color-coded wires. The #10 stuff I've got is 2 round insulated #10 medium stranded wires, one red insulated, one black, tacked together, which separates very easily to a pair of round wires, ideal for twisting. The better deal is to keep all leads as short as possible. 73, Guy K2AV On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: > Belen appears to make a 10 AWG twisted pair cable, but I only see it > available in 500 foot spools. Search for "Belden 8678?. > > > https://www.anixter.com/en_us/products/5T00UP-008500/BELDEN/Multi-Pair-Multi-Conductor-Cable/p/B5T00UP-500 > < > https://www.anixter.com/en_us/products/5T00UP-008500/BELDEN/Multi-Pair-Multi-Conductor-Cable/p/B5T00UP-500 > > > http://www.alliedelec.com/belden-8678-060500/70004200/ < > http://www.alliedelec.com/belden-8678-060500/70004200/> > > http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Belden-Wire-Cable/8678-060500/?qs=GjJS1gozy%2FMvzJLBfKAfoA%3D%3D > < > http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Belden-Wire-Cable/8678-060500/?qs=GjJS1gozy/MvzJLBfKAfoA== > > > > Might be worth organizing a group or club purchase. Or maybe PowerWerx > could carry it. > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > > > On Jun 20, 2016, at 11:19 PM, Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP > wrote: > > > > No, unfortunately. > > There is a large Ace Hardware near me and places to buy building > materials, but it's the not the same. > > > > 73, > > Vic, 4X6GP > > Rehovot, Israel > > Formerly K2VCO > > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > > > > On 21 Jun 2016 08:19, Fred C. Jensen wrote: > >> Home Depot is in Israel too? > >> > >> Fred K6DGW > >> > >> Vic Rosenthal wrote: > >>> Get some no. 10 stranded wire at Home Depot (etc.), double it over, > put one end in a vise and the other in the chuck of your electric drill and > twist away. Not shielded, but much better than parallel wires. I suppose > you could strip some RG-8 if you really wanted to shield it. > >>> > >>> Vic 4X6GP > >>> > >>>> On 20 Jun 2016, at 22:54, DGB wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Jim ... where does one find #10 twisted pair? Is it shielded? > >>>> > >>>> thanks 73 Dwight NS9I > >>>> > >>>>> On 6/20/2016 12:59 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > >>>>>> On Mon,6/20/2016 10:33 AM, James Walker wrote: > >>>>>> Is it normal to register voltage as low as I?m seeing on my K-3? > >>>>> > >>>>> What you're seeing sounds like IR drop in the DC cable. How long is > the DC cable between the K3 and the power supply? What wire gauge? Is there > any equipment (like distribution panel) in between? > >>>>> > >>>>> This is a great application for a short length of #10 twisted pair > between the PSU and rig. > >>>>> > >>>>> 73, Jim K9YC > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2av.guy at gmail.com From bob.novas at verizon.net Tue Jun 21 11:25:45 2016 From: bob.novas at verizon.net (Bob Novas) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 11:25:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: <1d11stfd7yfo76dt93fedwvq.1466486383769@email.android.com> <9f97acbc-817a-fb2d-459b-97b8869595b8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <019801d1cbd1$2f1c4400$8d54cc00$@verizon.net> FWIW - twisted pair calculator - https://www.eeweb.com/toolbox/twisted-pair Bob - W3DK > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Guy > Olinger K2AV > Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 11:09 AM > To: Walter Underwood > Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft] RFI on K3s > > If one has a source of the red/black #10 zip cord (seemingly very common in the > US), then simply zip it apart, and then twist it yourself. Then you still have the > advantage of the color-coded wires. > > The #10 stuff I've got is 2 round insulated #10 medium stranded wires, one red > insulated, one black, tacked together, which separates very easily to a pair of > round wires, ideal for twisting. > > The better deal is to keep all leads as short as possible. > > 73, Guy K2AV > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Walter Underwood > > wrote: > > > Belen appears to make a 10 AWG twisted pair cable, but I only see it > > available in 500 foot spools. Search for "Belden 8678?. > > > > > > https://www.anixter.com/en_us/products/5T00UP-008500/BELDEN/Multi- > Pair > > -Multi-Conductor-Cable/p/B5T00UP-500 > > < > > https://www.anixter.com/en_us/products/5T00UP-008500/BELDEN/Multi- > Pair > > -Multi-Conductor-Cable/p/B5T00UP-500 > > > > > http://www.alliedelec.com/belden-8678-060500/70004200/ < > > http://www.alliedelec.com/belden-8678-060500/70004200/> > > > > http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Belden-Wire-Cable/8678- > 060500/?qs= > > GjJS1gozy%2FMvzJLBfKAfoA%3D%3D > > < > > http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Belden-Wire-Cable/8678- > 060500/?qs= > > GjJS1gozy/MvzJLBfKAfoA== > > > > > > > Might be worth organizing a group or club purchase. Or maybe PowerWerx > > could carry it. > > > > wunder > > K6WRU > > Walter Underwood > > CM87wj > > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > > > > > On Jun 20, 2016, at 11:19 PM, Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > No, unfortunately. > > > There is a large Ace Hardware near me and places to buy building > > materials, but it's the not the same. > > > > > > 73, > > > Vic, 4X6GP > > > Rehovot, Israel > > > Formerly K2VCO > > > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > > > > > > On 21 Jun 2016 08:19, Fred C. Jensen wrote: > > >> Home Depot is in Israel too? > > >> > > >> Fred K6DGW > > >> > > >> Vic Rosenthal wrote: > > >>> Get some no. 10 stranded wire at Home Depot (etc.), double it > > >>> over, > > put one end in a vise and the other in the chuck of your electric > > drill and twist away. Not shielded, but much better than parallel > > wires. I suppose you could strip some RG-8 if you really wanted to shield it. > > >>> > > >>> Vic 4X6GP > > >>> > > >>>> On 20 Jun 2016, at 22:54, DGB wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Jim ... where does one find #10 twisted pair? Is it shielded? > > >>>> > > >>>> thanks 73 Dwight NS9I > > >>>> > > >>>>> On 6/20/2016 12:59 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > > >>>>>> On Mon,6/20/2016 10:33 AM, James Walker wrote: > > >>>>>> Is it normal to register voltage as low as I?m seeing on my K-3? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> What you're seeing sounds like IR drop in the DC cable. How long > > >>>>> is > > the DC cable between the K3 and the power supply? What wire gauge? Is > > there any equipment (like distribution panel) in between? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> This is a great application for a short length of #10 twisted > > >>>>> pair > > between the PSU and rig. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 73, Jim K9YC > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > Elecraft mailing list > > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this > > > email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > > > wunder at wunderwood.org > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > > k2av.guy at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to bob.novas at verizon.net From davidahrendts at me.com Tue Jun 21 12:11:33 2016 From: davidahrendts at me.com (David Ahrendts) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:11:33 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] OT - FCC Seeks "Noise Floor" Message-ID: <9A896B0A-C9FB-4AD2-83A4-E9D7179A5BF9@me.com> From the commercial side of broadcasting, but can?t we relate: http://www.tvtechnology.com/news/0002/eh-fcc-seeks-noise-floor/278840 Maybe someone knows if the ARRL is commenting on behalf of the amateur radio community. David A., KK6DA, Los Angeles David Ahrendts davidahrendts at me.com From alsopb at comcast.net Tue Jun 21 12:22:54 2016 From: alsopb at comcast.net (brian) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 16:22:54 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: <1d11stfd7yfo76dt93fedwvq.1466486383769@email.android.com> <9f97acbc-817a-fb2d-459b-97b8869595b8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <576969DE.4040603@comcast.net> Perhaps rightly so, all this is focusing on RFI getting into the radio via the antenna. Nothing has been mentioned on what had been standard practice years ago. That is installing a good RFI filter on the mains right at the station. These filter can knock things down 40 dB in both directions. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 6/21/2016 15:08 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: > If one has a source of the red/black #10 zip cord (seemingly very common in > the US), then simply zip it apart, and then twist it yourself. Then you > still have the advantage of the color-coded wires. > > The #10 stuff I've got is 2 round insulated #10 medium stranded wires, one > red insulated, one black, tacked together, which separates very easily to a > pair of round wires, ideal for twisting. > > The better deal is to keep all leads as short as possible. > > 73, Guy K2AV > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Walter Underwood > wrote: > >> Belen appears to make a 10 AWG twisted pair cable, but I only see it >> available in 500 foot spools. Search for "Belden 8678?. >> >> >> https://www.anixter.com/en_us/products/5T00UP-008500/BELDEN/Multi-Pair-Multi-Conductor-Cable/p/B5T00UP-500 >> < >> https://www.anixter.com/en_us/products/5T00UP-008500/BELDEN/Multi-Pair-Multi-Conductor-Cable/p/B5T00UP-500 >>> >> http://www.alliedelec.com/belden-8678-060500/70004200/ < >> http://www.alliedelec.com/belden-8678-060500/70004200/> >> >> http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Belden-Wire-Cable/8678-060500/?qs=GjJS1gozy%2FMvzJLBfKAfoA%3D%3D >> < >> http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Belden-Wire-Cable/8678-060500/?qs=GjJS1gozy/MvzJLBfKAfoA== >>> >> >> Might be worth organizing a group or club purchase. Or maybe PowerWerx >> could carry it. >> >> wunder >> K6WRU >> Walter Underwood >> CM87wj >> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) >> >>> On Jun 20, 2016, at 11:19 PM, Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP >> wrote: >>> >>> No, unfortunately. >>> There is a large Ace Hardware near me and places to buy building >> materials, but it's the not the same. >>> >>> 73, >>> Vic, 4X6GP >>> Rehovot, Israel >>> Formerly K2VCO >>> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ >>> >>> On 21 Jun 2016 08:19, Fred C. Jensen wrote: >>>> Home Depot is in Israel too? >>>> >>>> Fred K6DGW >>>> >>>> Vic Rosenthal wrote: >>>>> Get some no. 10 stranded wire at Home Depot (etc.), double it over, >> put one end in a vise and the other in the chuck of your electric drill and >> twist away. Not shielded, but much better than parallel wires. I suppose >> you could strip some RG-8 if you really wanted to shield it. >>>>> >>>>> Vic 4X6GP >>>>> >>>>>> On 20 Jun 2016, at 22:54, DGB wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Jim ... where does one find #10 twisted pair? Is it shielded? >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks 73 Dwight NS9I >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 6/20/2016 12:59 PM, Jim Brown wrote: >>>>>>>> On Mon,6/20/2016 10:33 AM, James Walker wrote: >>>>>>>> Is it normal to register voltage as low as I?m seeing on my K-3? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What you're seeing sounds like IR drop in the DC cable. How long is >> the DC cable between the K3 and the power supply? What wire gauge? Is there >> any equipment (like distribution panel) in between? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is a great application for a short length of #10 twisted pair >> between the PSU and rig. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 73, Jim K9YC >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k2av.guy at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to alsopb at comcast.net > From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue Jun 21 12:27:47 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:27:47 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: <1d11stfd7yfo76dt93fedwvq.1466486383769@email.android.com> <9f97acbc-817a-fb2d-459b-97b8869595b8@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm a big fan of Belden cables, but why go to the trouble of a group purchase when it is so easy to make your own twisted pair from lengths of stranded cable we can buy at the local big box store? The Belden cables referenced are primarily used for loudspeaker wiring in big sound systems. I specified a lot of it when I was designing systems like that. Another point though. Hams in general, and Elecraft in particular, should be using twisted pair for loudspeaker and power wiring in our stations. It's not a cure for RFI, but it is a positive step, because it prevents differential mode coupling of RF to that wiring. Ditto for loudspeaker wiring in home entertainment systems. Over the years, I've cured lots of RFI to these systems by replacing zip cord, glorified or plain, with twisted pair. 73, Jim K9YC On Tue,6/21/2016 7:48 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: > Belden appears to make a 10 AWG twisted pair cable, but I only see it available in 500 foot spools. Search for "Belden 8678?. > > Might be worth organizing a group or club purchase. Or maybe PowerWerx could carry it. From ppauly at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 12:30:52 2016 From: ppauly at gmail.com (Peter Pauly) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 12:30:52 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: <1d11stfd7yfo76dt93fedwvq.1466486383769@email.android.com> <9f97acbc-817a-fb2d-459b-97b8869595b8@gmail.com> Message-ID: The datasheet for this product doesn't say anything about it being twisted. In fact, they call it parallel in the description. http://www.belden.com/techdatas/metric/8678.pdf On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: > Belen appears to make a 10 AWG twisted pair cable, but I only see it > available in 500 foot spools. Search for "Belden 8678?. > > > https://www.anixter.com/en_us/products/5T00UP-008500/BELDEN/Multi-Pair-Multi-Conductor-Cable/p/B5T00UP-500 > < > https://www.anixter.com/en_us/products/5T00UP-008500/BELDEN/Multi-Pair-Multi-Conductor-Cable/p/B5T00UP-500 > > > http://www.alliedelec.com/belden-8678-060500/70004200/ < > http://www.alliedelec.com/belden-8678-060500/70004200/> > > http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Belden-Wire-Cable/8678-060500/?qs=GjJS1gozy%2FMvzJLBfKAfoA%3D%3D > < > http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Belden-Wire-Cable/8678-060500/?qs=GjJS1gozy/MvzJLBfKAfoA== > > > > Might be worth organizing a group or club purchase. Or maybe PowerWerx > could carry it. > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > > > On Jun 20, 2016, at 11:19 PM, Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP > wrote: > > > > No, unfortunately. > > There is a large Ace Hardware near me and places to buy building > materials, but it's the not the same. > > > > 73, > > Vic, 4X6GP > > Rehovot, Israel > > Formerly K2VCO > > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > > > > On 21 Jun 2016 08:19, Fred C. Jensen wrote: > >> Home Depot is in Israel too? > >> > >> Fred K6DGW > >> > >> Vic Rosenthal wrote: > >>> Get some no. 10 stranded wire at Home Depot (etc.), double it over, > put one end in a vise and the other in the chuck of your electric drill and > twist away. Not shielded, but much better than parallel wires. I suppose > you could strip some RG-8 if you really wanted to shield it. > >>> > >>> Vic 4X6GP > >>> > >>>> On 20 Jun 2016, at 22:54, DGB wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Jim ... where does one find #10 twisted pair? Is it shielded? > >>>> > >>>> thanks 73 Dwight NS9I > >>>> > >>>>> On 6/20/2016 12:59 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > >>>>>> On Mon,6/20/2016 10:33 AM, James Walker wrote: > >>>>>> Is it normal to register voltage as low as I?m seeing on my K-3? > >>>>> > >>>>> What you're seeing sounds like IR drop in the DC cable. How long is > the DC cable between the K3 and the power supply? What wire gauge? Is there > any equipment (like distribution panel) in between? > >>>>> > >>>>> This is a great application for a short length of #10 twisted pair > between the PSU and rig. > >>>>> > >>>>> 73, Jim K9YC > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ppauly at gmail.com From dave at nk7z.net Tue Jun 21 12:28:46 2016 From: dave at nk7z.net (Dave Cole) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:28:46 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] OT - FCC Seeks "Noise Floor" In-Reply-To: <9A896B0A-C9FB-4AD2-83A4-E9D7179A5BF9@me.com> References: <9A896B0A-C9FB-4AD2-83A4-E9D7179A5BF9@me.com> Message-ID: <1466526526.3334.4.camel@nk7z.net> On Tue, 2016-06-21 at 09:11 -0700, David Ahrendts wrote: > From the commercial side of broadcasting, but can?t we relate:??http:/ > /www.tvtechnology.com/news/0002/eh-fcc-seeks-noise-floor/278840 > floor/278840> > Maybe someone knows if the ARRL is commenting on behalf of the amateur > radio community. > > David A., KK6DA, Los Angeles >? I believe the ARRL is involved in this. ?Ed, or Mike might speak up... -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue Jun 21 12:42:41 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:42:41 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <576969DE.4040603@comcast.net> References: <1d11stfd7yfo76dt93fedwvq.1466486383769@email.android.com> <9f97acbc-817a-fb2d-459b-97b8869595b8@gmail.com> <576969DE.4040603@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2380a614-7ed7-e603-fbbd-32e3d8aad155@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Tue,6/21/2016 9:22 AM, brian wrote: > Nothing has been mentioned on what had been standard practice years ago. > > That is installing a good RFI filter on the mains right at the station. > These filter can knock things down 40 dB in both directions. The reason nothing has been mentioned about it is that it doesn't do much to solve RFI problems. That's because MOST RF noise is coupled by common mode radiation from systems and common mode reception to systems, not by differential mode, and these filters do NOTHING to kill common mode current. The data sheets for commercial filters quote numbers for "common mode" suppression, but what the power industry calls common mode is the voltage between neutral and the green wire. That's NOT what the rest of the world calls common mode, which is a longitudinal current ALONG the cable pair, and which causes the cable to radiate (and receive) like any other antenna. More than five years ago, I bought some good commercial power line filters and mounted them in electrical boxes to put in line with the output of the Honda 2000i generators that we use for CQP county expeditions and Field Day. Those filters did NOTHING to suppress the noise. What DID work was a common mode choke formed by winding 4-5 turns of the power cable through 5 #31 cores. 73, Jim K9YC From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue Jun 21 12:48:40 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:48:40 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <768828B9-AF69-479E-8E38-2FBEEC234B0F@yahoo.com> <5767E579.3000108@af2z.net> <0cadc172-874a-a55a-2778-9febeaadfb28@montac.com> <4D6DF20BAD0B4CB5B88E3534808CE984@Paramount> <481a96b8-e6bd-315a-2c67-384a0498ec87@montac.com> <96E7356B-96B6-4CF6-A7E7-78ACED369CF4@sdellington.us> <5d4ccc87-7b66-343e-28b1-d104ee9aee66@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: On Mon,6/20/2016 6:50 PM, K9MA wrote: > Call them what you will, connecting a bunch of station components to a common DC power return has to be done very carefully. Yes, it does. The rules are quite simple, and are articulated in the Power Point slides I referenced by a link. It's nothing more complicated than proper bonding between equipment, and between that equipment and all grounded parts of a building. 73, Jim K9YC From alsopb at comcast.net Tue Jun 21 12:53:14 2016 From: alsopb at comcast.net (brian) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 16:53:14 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <2380a614-7ed7-e603-fbbd-32e3d8aad155@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <1d11stfd7yfo76dt93fedwvq.1466486383769@email.android.com> <9f97acbc-817a-fb2d-459b-97b8869595b8@gmail.com> <576969DE.4040603@comcast.net> <2380a614-7ed7-e603-fbbd-32e3d8aad155@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: <576970FA.1000704@comcast.net> Interesting. Putting one on my dishwasher almost completely silenced it. It had been S8. I'm thinking of adding one to the XYL's treadmill. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 6/21/2016 16:42 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > On Tue,6/21/2016 9:22 AM, brian wrote: >> Nothing has been mentioned on what had been standard practice years ago. >> >> That is installing a good RFI filter on the mains right at the station. >> These filter can knock things down 40 dB in both directions. > > > The reason nothing has been mentioned about it is that it doesn't do > much to solve RFI problems. That's because MOST RF noise is coupled by > common mode radiation from systems and common mode reception to systems, > not by differential mode, and these filters do NOTHING to kill common > mode current. > > The data sheets for commercial filters quote numbers for "common mode" > suppression, but what the power industry calls common mode is the > voltage between neutral and the green wire. That's NOT what the rest of > the world calls common mode, which is a longitudinal current ALONG the > cable pair, and which causes the cable to radiate (and receive) like > any other antenna. > > More than five years ago, I bought some good commercial power line > filters and mounted them in electrical boxes to put in line with the > output of the Honda 2000i generators that we use for CQP county > expeditions and Field Day. Those filters did NOTHING to suppress the > noise. What DID work was a common mode choke formed by winding 4-5 turns > of the power cable through 5 #31 cores. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to alsopb at comcast.net From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue Jun 21 12:53:25 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:53:25 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <8e478b3b-8293-60dd-60b3-f8cb913b8b5b@montac.com> <57681D53.5020104@af2z.net> <8d9838aa-8146-dafe-2658-28123a887050@montac.com> Message-ID: <8507c5a4-a5be-417a-c43a-fe5e02950074@audiosystemsgroup.com> Hi Jimmy, While I've not investigated it myself, I've been told by those who have that the bus conductors inside some of these boxes are not very robust. In my station, I've made my own cable splices using Power Pole connectors. One pair, as short as I can make it, goes directly to the K3, another goes to a Rig Runner box that feeds power to other boxes that don't draw much current (preamp for Beverages, antenna switching, SO2R box, etc.). 73, Jim K9YC On Mon,6/20/2016 6:54 PM, James Walker wrote: > You may have something there. I use a rig runner device to divide the > power supply output among several rigs. I?m going to try some rewiring > to get a shorter, more direct connection. Thanks. From davidahrendts at me.com Tue Jun 21 11:59:57 2016 From: davidahrendts at me.com (David Ahrendts) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 08:59:57 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <8e478b3b-8293-60dd-60b3-f8cb913b8b5b@montac.com> <57681D53.5020104@af2z.net> <8d9838aa-8146-dafe-2658-28123a887050@montac.com> <2B0EE81B-93BD-4E48-A6F1-D245A11FD9A0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <482520BE-02DA-476C-A592-A306F518FB33@me.com> Dwight, here?s one example of a shield twisted pair: Belden 12/2 5000FE: http://www.showmecables.com/product/Belden-2-Conductor-12-Awg-Stranded-Shielded-Cable-Per-FT.aspx Twisted pair. Foil shielded. Ground. I looked at this and found a cheaper, non-plenum version from another brand (will get you the exact name in a separate post). So I?ve replaced all zip cable lines and many of the smaller Elecraft lines too. Trashed the noisy Samsung switching PS (14V DC) used for the Elecraft SVGA display and made a new shielded cable to the Powererx PS and on and on. Highly effective method to reduce RFI. Pretty convinced noise is not going to enter the system through these shielded cables. David A., KK6DA, Los Angeles > On Jun 21, 2016, at 6:44 AM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE wrote: > > Works great! > > Do it all the time. Father showed me how 50 years ago, the same way > Vic describes it ;o) > > On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 07:44:19 +0300, you wrote: > >> Get some no. 10 stranded wire at Home Depot (etc.), double it over, put one end in a vise and the other in the chuck of your electric drill and twist away. Not shielded, but much better than parallel wires. I suppose you could strip some RG-8 if you really wanted to shield it. >> >> Vic 4X6GP >> >>> On 20 Jun 2016, at 22:54, DGB wrote: >>> >>> >>> Jim ... where does one find #10 twisted pair? Is it shielded? >>> >>> thanks 73 Dwight NS9I >>> >>>> On 6/20/2016 12:59 PM, Jim Brown wrote: >>>>> On Mon,6/20/2016 10:33 AM, James Walker wrote: >>>>> Is it normal to register voltage as low as I?m seeing on my K-3? >>>> >>>> What you're seeing sounds like IR drop in the DC cable. How long is the DC cable between the K3 and the power supply? What wire gauge? Is there any equipment (like distribution panel) in between? >>>> >>>> This is a great application for a short length of #10 twisted pair between the PSU and rig. >>>> >>>> 73, Jim K9YC >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to k2vco.vic at gmail.com >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to n5ge at n5ge.com > ARS N5GE > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to davidahrendts at me.com David Ahrendts davidahrendts at me.com From eballina at cfl.rr.com Tue Jun 21 13:08:06 2016 From: eballina at cfl.rr.com (Road Runner) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 13:08:06 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? Message-ID: Have had my KX3 for a couple of weeks and love it. Biggest issue I have is even at 15 watts, unless conditions are right, I am having issues making DX contacts. The KX3 is connected to an Alpha Delta 80-6 meter fan dipole. I have been thinking about getting the KXPA 100 but wonder whether it will be enough of a bang for the buck. I use this at a summer cottage, at home I started with a Kenwood Ts-590SG and eventually upgraded the rig with an Ameritron 811H to get more punch. I have no problems getting picked out of pileup so now... So my question is for those of you that have gone the upgrade path to KXPA100... Did you get enough punch or are you wishing you had gone with more power? I am not really too crazy about going all the way to the KPA500... Sent from my iPad From richard at sotabeams.co.uk Tue Jun 21 13:17:36 2016 From: richard at sotabeams.co.uk (Richard Newstead) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 18:17:36 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 - additional filters Message-ID: Nicolas F4EGX has done a nice blog entry showing how he has installed our LASERBEAM digital filter module in his K2. http://f4egx.blogspot.fr/2016/06/laserbeamfilter-from-sotabeams-to-my-k2.html 73 Richard G3CWI

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From ny9h at arrl.net Tue Jun 21 13:24:28 2016 From: ny9h at arrl.net (Bill Steffey NY9H) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 13:24:28 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] k3 various & intermittent errors on power on In-Reply-To: <22519BD8-22D5-4414-8C44-4F4F88F6991B@elecraft.com> References: <002401d1c053$8c921ee0$a5b65ca0$@biz> <3114ff4f-9677-be2e-907d-e6fe931f702c@audiosystemsgroup.com> <20160619131512.10F4C2EB4210@mailman.qth.net> <22519BD8-22D5-4414-8C44-4F4F88F6991B@elecraft.com> Message-ID: the usual splendid treatment by howard confirmed my thought ... get those gold contacts installed....tnx bill At 12:21 AM 6/20/2016, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: >Bill, > >Call our support guys first thing Monday. > >73, > >Eric >elecraft.com >_..._ > > > > > On Jun 19, 2016, at 6:14 AM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote: > > > > k3 sn 22xx.... loaded option wise ( no 2mtr) > > > > last week vfo did not move receiver ??... > > and heard no sigs till after i changed bands and back/// > > > > upon pwr on get err codes.. > > first was KIO > > > > THEN IF1 > > > > PWR DN AND UP AGAIN ,,, > > > > KIO > > IF1 > > > > I RELOADED FW THINKING THAT WOULD BE EASIEST .. > > then got the kio error again/./// > > > > RADIO WORKS FINE > > > > sounds like i need to take it apart and deoxit everything front > panel and > > reassemble. > > other ideas ???? > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com > > From kc6cnn at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 13:31:23 2016 From: kc6cnn at gmail.com (Gerald Manthey) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 12:31:23 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 - additional filters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What does that do? > On Jun 21, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Richard Newstead wrote: > > Nicolas F4EGX has done a nice blog entry showing how he has installed > our LASERBEAM digital filter module in his K2. > > http://f4egx.blogspot.fr/2016/06/laserbeamfilter-from-sotabeams-to-my-k2.html > > 73 Richard G3CWI > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kc6cnn at gmail.com From k3ndm at comcast.net Tue Jun 21 13:39:37 2016 From: k3ndm at comcast.net (Barry LaZar) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 17:39:37 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] OT - FCC Seeks "Noise Floor" In-Reply-To: <9A896B0A-C9FB-4AD2-83A4-E9D7179A5BF9@me.com> Message-ID: David, This is interesting. But, how does it relate to the regulations already on the books having to do with incidental radiation? That's the regulation set that controls conducted and radiated noise from powerlines, TV, computers, etc. 73, Barry K3NDM ------ Original Message ------ From: "David Ahrendts" To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" Sent: 6/21/2016 12:11:33 PM Subject: [Elecraft] OT - FCC Seeks "Noise Floor" >From the commercial side of broadcasting, but can?t we relate: >http://www.tvtechnology.com/news/0002/eh-fcc-seeks-noise-floor/278840 > >Maybe someone knows if the ARRL is commenting on behalf of the amateur >radio community. > >David A., KK6DA, Los Angeles > > > >David Ahrendts davidahrendts at me.com > > > > >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to k3ndm at comcast.net From jim.gmforum at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 13:39:46 2016 From: jim.gmforum at gmail.com (Jim GM) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 12:39:46 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] OT KX2/KX3 Logging Program Q Message-ID: <57697bdf.84a76b0a.17a63.fffffebe@mx.google.com> HI Elecrafters I have a confession, I have been Running RumLog with my KX3 for several years with my Mac Mini Apple computer and love it. I just got a Microsoft Surface 3. I want to run a logging program that interfaces with the KX2 and KX3 using one USB com port. N1MM is a nice program but I need a second com port and an interface to send CW. RumLog on the Mac only needs one. So here is the Question. Since the Micorsoft Surface Tablet has only one comport what Logging progam would fit my requirements? Sure I could get an adaptor port so I can have more ports and add an interface but that is not an option for my needs. Jim K9TF From mike at mdodd.com Tue Jun 21 13:48:40 2016 From: mike at mdodd.com (Mike Dodd) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 13:48:40 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57697DF8.8010808@mdodd.com> On 6/21/2016 1:08 PM, Road Runner wrote: > Have had my KX3 for a couple of weeks and love it. Biggest issue I > have is even at 15 watts, unless conditions are right, I am having > issues making DX contacts. CW or SSB? The mode makes a huge difference. > So my question is for those of you that have gone the upgrade > path to KXPA100... Did you get enough punch or are you wishing you > had gone with more power? I am not really too crazy about going all > the way to the KPA500... With a KX3, and now a K3s, both feeding a Carolina Windom, I have good results working DX with only 5W CW on all bands. I just looked at the contests page on my website, and see that I averaged 23 QSOs per hour over two years operating the ARRL DX Contest at 5W. 100W does make a big difference on CW. In the year between those two ARRL DX contests, I ran 100W CW and averaged 33 Qs/hour -- a 43% better rate. Now, I am not an uber contester, and I have only the Carolina Windom antenna up about 45'. No beams and no 100'-high antennas. I found 10W SSB to be difficult and frustrating, both in contests and normal QSOs. OTOH, I _did_ work New Zealand with 10W SSB, and we tested to see how low I could go. He was able to copy me down to 1W. I experienced difficulties with 10W SSB on a 75M morning net. People just couldn't pull me out of the noise. Once I bought the KXPA100, SSB operating was much more enjoyable. I often can get a DX station to answer me in a pileup after three to six calls (good timing helps a lot). So, my bottom line: 100W yields noticeable benefits on CW and SSB, but _especially_ on SSB. I was never sorry I bought the KXPA100. -- 73, Mike N4CF Louisa County, VA USA Elecraft K3s/100 Carolina Windom up 45' http://n4cf.mdodd.com From k3ndm at comcast.net Tue Jun 21 13:54:13 2016 From: k3ndm at comcast.net (Barry LaZar) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 17:54:13 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You don't say how high your antenna is or what modes you are using. However, If you aren't already there, I would get my antenna up at least about 35 feet, 60 feet would surely be better. At QRP power levels, I would focus on CW or PSK31, or one of the other weak signal modes. The exception is 10 or 15 meters where anything that can be radiated seems to work. The problem is 10 and 15 aren't open all the time meaning you are going to need to do a lot of listening on these bands if you want to be successful. There is a trick you might want to employ, using the beacons that are there and knowing their schedule. Just leave your receiver on on one of them, and when you hear it, you know the band is open to that part of the world. 73, Barry K3NDM ------ Original Message ------ From: "Road Runner" To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Sent: 6/21/2016 1:08:06 PM Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? >Have had my KX3 for a couple of weeks and love it. Biggest issue I have >is even at 15 watts, unless conditions are right, I am having issues >making DX contacts. The KX3 is connected to an Alpha Delta 80-6 meter >fan dipole. I have been thinking about getting the KXPA 100 but wonder >whether it will be enough of a bang for the buck. I use this at a >summer cottage, at home I started with a Kenwood Ts-590SG and >eventually upgraded the rig with an Ameritron 811H to get more punch. I >have no problems getting picked out of pileup so now... >So my question is for those of you that have gone the upgrade path to >KXPA100... Did you get enough punch or are you wishing you had gone >with more power? I am not really too crazy about going all the way to >the KPA500... > >Sent from my iPad >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to k3ndm at comcast.net From cautery at montac.com Tue Jun 21 13:56:30 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 12:56:30 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: <1d11stfd7yfo76dt93fedwvq.1466486383769@email.android.com> <9f97acbc-817a-fb2d-459b-97b8869595b8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <09b4614c-5254-7455-2cff-860e3fb68759@montac.com> I'd likely be interested in about 100 feet. Have to study the specs more, but Anixster's part is half the cost of the others... ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 6/21/2016 9:48 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: > Belen appears to make a 10 AWG twisted pair cable, but I only see it available in 500 foot spools. Search for "Belden 8678?. > > https://www.anixter.com/en_us/products/5T00UP-008500/BELDEN/Multi-Pair-Multi-Conductor-Cable/p/B5T00UP-500 > http://www.alliedelec.com/belden-8678-060500/70004200/ > http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Belden-Wire-Cable/8678-060500/?qs=GjJS1gozy%2FMvzJLBfKAfoA%3D%3D > > Might be worth organizing a group or club purchase. Or maybe PowerWerx could carry it. > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) From mike at mdodd.com Tue Jun 21 13:58:59 2016 From: mike at mdodd.com (Mike Dodd) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 13:58:59 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] OT KX2/KX3 Logging Program Q In-Reply-To: <57697bdf.84a76b0a.17a63.fffffebe@mx.google.com> References: <57697bdf.84a76b0a.17a63.fffffebe@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <57698063.5000508@mdodd.com> On 6/21/2016 1:39 PM, Jim GM wrote: > N1MM is a nice program but I need a second com port and an interface > to send CW. RumLog on the Mac only needs one. N1MM is a contest logger, so I assume you need to send CW in contests, not general QSOs. > So here is the Question. Since the Micorsoft Surface Tablet has only > one comport what Logging progam would fit my requirements? I use a WinKeyer USB keyer to send CW with a paddle and with N2MM+. N1MM+ controls the WinKeyer perfectly though a USB port, and has a separate configuration tab devoted to it. With my KX3/KXP3/KXPA100, I used one USB port for everything except sending CW, which used a second USB port. I did not use an RS-232 serial port for anything. The same arrangement works with my new K3s and the same WinKeyer. I'm not familiar with the Surface. If it has only one USB port, you can use a powered USB hub to get more connections. hope this helps. -- 73, Mike N4CF Louisa County, VA USA Elecraft K3s/100 Carolina Windom up 45' http://n4cf.mdodd.com From n1rj at roadrunner.com Tue Jun 21 14:03:16 2016 From: n1rj at roadrunner.com (Roger D Johnson) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 14:03:16 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA100 module Message-ID: <57698164.2000804@roadrunner.com> I'm installing the "gold plated" connector mod and I noticed that my PA module has a 2700 ufd cap mounted on the heat sink side of the board between the +12 volt input and ground pins of P68B. This cap isn't on the latest schematic (Jun 2010) and I don't see it on any pics of the PA module! I think my module is Rev B. 73, Roger From richard at sotabeams.co.uk Tue Jun 21 14:11:32 2016 From: richard at sotabeams.co.uk (Richard Newstead) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 19:11:32 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 - additional filters Message-ID: Hi Gerald The filters improve the skirt selectivity performance of the stock radio. Several people seem to have used them in their K2 radios. Details of the various filter modules are here: http://www.sotabeams.co.uk/digital-audio-filter-modules/ 73 Richard G3CWI

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From eballina at cfl.rr.com Tue Jun 21 14:12:55 2016 From: eballina at cfl.rr.com (Eballina) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 14:12:55 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8554EC53-8903-41B8-A619-B6F7887771B8@cfl.rr.com> Thanks Barry, up about 30 feetr al top of of inverted V. Ends of antenna up about 25 ft. SSB phone preferred but did pick up PSK31 Signalink but prefer voice. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 21, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Barry LaZar wrote: > > You don't say how high your antenna is or what modes you are using. However, If you aren't already there, I would get my antenna up at least about 35 feet, 60 feet would surely be better. At QRP power levels, I would focus on CW or PSK31, or one of the other weak signal modes. The exception is 10 or 15 meters where anything that can be radiated seems to work. The problem is 10 and 15 aren't open all the time meaning you are going to need to do a lot of listening on these bands if you want to be successful. There is a trick you might want to employ, using the beacons that are there and knowing their schedule. Just leave your receiver on on one of them, and when you hear it, you know the band is open to that part of the world. > > 73, > Barry > K3NDM > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Road Runner" > To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Sent: 6/21/2016 1:08:06 PM > Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? > >> Have had my KX3 for a couple of weeks and love it. Biggest issue I have is even at 15 watts, unless conditions are right, I am having issues making DX contacts. The KX3 is connected to an Alpha Delta 80-6 meter fan dipole. I have been thinking about getting the KXPA 100 but wonder whether it will be enough of a bang for the buck. I use this at a summer cottage, at home I started with a Kenwood Ts-590SG and eventually upgraded the rig with an Ameritron 811H to get more punch. I have no problems getting picked out of pileup so now... >> So my question is for those of you that have gone the upgrade path to KXPA100... Did you get enough punch or are you wishing you had gone with more power? I am not really too crazy about going all the way to the KPA500... >> >> Sent from my iPad >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k3ndm at comcast.net > From k3ndm at comcast.net Tue Jun 21 14:28:03 2016 From: k3ndm at comcast.net (Barry LaZar) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 18:28:03 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? In-Reply-To: <8554EC53-8903-41B8-A619-B6F7887771B8@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: SSB at QRP levels can be a bit challenging. I do have a KXPA100 and use it. However, I only run QRP seriously for Field Day with a group who are doing the same with KX3s. We do very well at 5 Watts, but we do have a few acres of antennas. I have found two things that make a very big difference, antenna height and minimizing antenna system loses. You say you are running a fan dipole. You don't say what you are feeding it with or how long your feed line is. I have a dipole up 40 feet and feed it with open wire to a good 4:1 current balun where I transition to LMR-400 to come into the house. You may not need a 4:1 balun for a fan dipole, but a good 1:1 balun. And, this is only needed if you have a fairly long run or want to extract the very last milliwatt out of your system. I would tell you what we do for Field Day, the extremes we take, but that would give away our competitive secret. ;-) 73, Barry K3NDM ------ Original Message ------ From: "Eballina" To: "Barry LaZar" Cc: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Sent: 6/21/2016 2:12:55 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? >Thanks Barry, up about 30 feetr al top of >of inverted V. Ends of antenna up about 25 ft. SSB phone preferred but >did pick up PSK31 Signalink but prefer voice. >Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 21, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Barry LaZar wrote: >> >> You don't say how high your antenna is or what modes you are using. >>However, If you aren't already there, I would get my antenna up at >>least about 35 feet, 60 feet would surely be better. At QRP power >>levels, I would focus on CW or PSK31, or one of the other weak signal >>modes. The exception is 10 or 15 meters where anything that can be >>radiated seems to work. The problem is 10 and 15 aren't open all the >>time meaning you are going to need to do a lot of listening on these >>bands if you want to be successful. There is a trick you might want to >>employ, using the beacons that are there and knowing their schedule. >>Just leave your receiver on on one of them, and when you hear it, you >>know the band is open to that part of the world. >> >> 73, >> Barry >> K3NDM >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Road Runner" >> To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Sent: 6/21/2016 1:08:06 PM >> Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? >> >>> Have had my KX3 for a couple of weeks and love it. Biggest issue I >>>have is even at 15 watts, unless conditions are right, I am having >>>issues making DX contacts. The KX3 is connected to an Alpha Delta >>>80-6 meter fan dipole. I have been thinking about getting the KXPA >>>100 but wonder whether it will be enough of a bang for the buck. I >>>use this at a summer cottage, at home I started with a Kenwood >>>Ts-590SG and eventually upgraded the rig with an Ameritron 811H to >>>get more punch. I have no problems getting picked out of pileup so >>>now... >>> So my question is for those of you that have gone the upgrade path >>>to KXPA100... Did you get enough punch or are you wishing you had >>>gone with more power? I am not really too crazy about going all the >>>way to the KPA500... >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to k3ndm at comcast.net >> > From eballina at cfl.rr.com Tue Jun 21 14:31:43 2016 From: eballina at cfl.rr.com (Eballina) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 14:31:43 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am feeding it with about 80 ft of coax. Barry I would never dream of asking for the "secret recipe"!? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 21, 2016, at 2:28 PM, Barry LaZar wrote: > > SSB at QRP levels can be a bit challenging. I do have a KXPA100 and use it. However, I only run QRP seriously for Field Day with a group who are doing the same with KX3s. We do very well at 5 Watts, but we do have a few acres of antennas. I have found two things that make a very big difference, antenna height and minimizing antenna system loses. > > You say you are running a fan dipole. You don't say what you are feeding it with or how long your feed line is. I have a dipole up 40 feet and feed it with open wire to a good 4:1 current balun where I transition to LMR-400 to come into the house. You may not need a 4:1 balun for a fan dipole, but a good 1:1 balun. And, this is only needed if you have a fairly long run or want to extract the very last milliwatt out of your system. I would tell you what we do for Field Day, the extremes we take, but that would give away our competitive secret. ;-) > > 73, > Barry > K3NDM > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Eballina" > To: "Barry LaZar" > Cc: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Sent: 6/21/2016 2:12:55 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? > >> Thanks Barry, up about 30 feetr al top of >> of inverted V. Ends of antenna up about 25 ft. SSB phone preferred but did pick up PSK31 Signalink but prefer voice. >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 21, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Barry LaZar wrote: >>> >>> You don't say how high your antenna is or what modes you are using. However, If you aren't already there, I would get my antenna up at least about 35 feet, 60 feet would surely be better. At QRP power levels, I would focus on CW or PSK31, or one of the other weak signal modes. The exception is 10 or 15 meters where anything that can be radiated seems to work. The problem is 10 and 15 aren't open all the time meaning you are going to need to do a lot of listening on these bands if you want to be successful. There is a trick you might want to employ, using the beacons that are there and knowing their schedule. Just leave your receiver on on one of them, and when you hear it, you know the band is open to that part of the world. >>> >>> 73, >>> Barry >>> K3NDM >>> >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: "Road Runner" >>> To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> Sent: 6/21/2016 1:08:06 PM >>> Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? >>> >>>> Have had my KX3 for a couple of weeks and love it. Biggest issue I have is even at 15 watts, unless conditions are right, I am having issues making DX contacts. The KX3 is connected to an Alpha Delta 80-6 meter fan dipole. I have been thinking about getting the KXPA 100 but wonder whether it will be enough of a bang for the buck. I use this at a summer cottage, at home I started with a Kenwood Ts-590SG and eventually upgraded the rig with an Ameritron 811H to get more punch. I have no problems getting picked out of pileup so now... >>>> So my question is for those of you that have gone the upgrade path to KXPA100... Did you get enough punch or are you wishing you had gone with more power? I am not really too crazy about going all the way to the KPA500... >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to k3ndm at comcast.net > From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue Jun 21 14:31:36 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 11:31:36 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Twisted Pair Cables for DC Power In-Reply-To: <09b4614c-5254-7455-2cff-860e3fb68759@montac.com> References: <1d11stfd7yfo76dt93fedwvq.1466486383769@email.android.com> <9f97acbc-817a-fb2d-459b-97b8869595b8@gmail.com> <09b4614c-5254-7455-2cff-860e3fb68759@montac.com> Message-ID: On Tue,6/21/2016 10:56 AM, Clay Autery wrote: > Belen appears to make a 10 AWG twisted pair cable, but I only see it available in 500 foot spools. Search for "Belden 8678?. This is NOT a single twisted pair, it is 6 pairs of #22. It is CONTROL cable, not power cable. Belden does make #10-2 jacketed stranded twisted pair cables. The least exotic is 5T00UP. It is sold in 500 ft and 1,000 ft lengths. Belden 8477 is #12-2, jacketed stranded twisted pair. West Penn C210, 25210, and HA210 are #10-2 jacketed stranded twisted pair cables. The difference between them is the fire rating of their insulation and jacket materials. West Penn C208 is #8-2 jacket stranded twisted pair. They are designed for loudspeaker wiring in large permanently installed sound systems. Part of what you're paying for in these cables is that fire rating. 73, Jim K9YC From wunder at wunderwood.org Tue Jun 21 15:04:17 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 12:04:17 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Twisted Pair Cables for DC Power In-Reply-To: References: <1d11stfd7yfo76dt93fedwvq.1466486383769@email.android.com> <9f97acbc-817a-fb2d-459b-97b8869595b8@gmail.com> <09b4614c-5254-7455-2cff-860e3fb68759@montac.com> Message-ID: <12175EF0-350A-4D01-9A53-B382D4418BF6@wunderwood.org> It would be lovely if manufacturers started supplying this sort of cable with their radios. Hint, hint. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jun 21, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > > On Tue,6/21/2016 10:56 AM, Clay Autery wrote: >> Belen appears to make a 10 AWG twisted pair cable, but I only see it available in 500 foot spools. Search for "Belden 8678?. > > This is NOT a single twisted pair, it is 6 pairs of #22. It is CONTROL cable, not power cable. > > Belden does make #10-2 jacketed stranded twisted pair cables. The least exotic is 5T00UP. It is sold in 500 ft and 1,000 ft lengths. > > Belden 8477 is #12-2, jacketed stranded twisted pair. > > West Penn C210, 25210, and HA210 are #10-2 jacketed stranded twisted pair cables. The difference between them is the fire rating of their insulation and jacket materials. West Penn C208 is #8-2 jacket stranded twisted pair. They are designed for loudspeaker wiring in large permanently installed sound systems. Part of what you're paying for in these cables is that fire rating. > > 73, Jim K9YC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From ns9i2016 at Bayland.net Tue Jun 21 15:05:31 2016 From: ns9i2016 at Bayland.net ('DGB') Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 14:05:31 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: <3acda7d9-3e8e-3d06-098e-136ccc939bf0@audiosystemsgroup.com> <5d20f46e-d074-f308-1110-0a68d6190207@montac.com> <5767D767.3060408@af2z.net> <768828B9-AF69-479E-8E38-2FBEEC234B0F@yahoo.com> <5767E579.3000108@af2z.net> <0cadc172-874a-a55a-2778-9febeaadfb28@montac.com> <4D6DF20BAD0B4CB5B88E3534808CE984@Paramount> <481a96b8-e6bd-315a-2c67-384a0498ec87@montac.com> <96E7356B-96B6-4CF6-A7E7-78ACED369CF4@sdellington.us> <5d4ccc87-7b66-343e-28b1-d104ee9aee66@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: Tnx to all the input ... all my pwr leads in the shack are now twisted (as is my mind) ... never had RFI to begin with! tnx 73 Dwight NS9I From cautery at montac.com Tue Jun 21 15:16:49 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 14:16:49 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Twisted Pair Cables for DC Power In-Reply-To: <12175EF0-350A-4D01-9A53-B382D4418BF6@wunderwood.org> References: <1d11stfd7yfo76dt93fedwvq.1466486383769@email.android.com> <9f97acbc-817a-fb2d-459b-97b8869595b8@gmail.com> <09b4614c-5254-7455-2cff-860e3fb68759@montac.com> <12175EF0-350A-4D01-9A53-B382D4418BF6@wunderwood.org> Message-ID: <3d915f63-a2e1-6950-edd7-9f60ac695b80@montac.com> Should offer as an non-standard option... putting UTP/STP power cables in the standard pack would result in a non-trivial materials cost increase. ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 6/21/2016 2:04 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: > It would be lovely if manufacturers started supplying this sort of cable with their radios. > > Hint, hint. > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > From w7ox at socal.rr.com Tue Jun 21 15:31:59 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 12:31:59 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <96ac559f-a62d-d886-be2f-926ed30a0916@socal.rr.com> Nor would I :-) Phil W7OX On 6/21/16 11:31 AM, Eballina wrote: > I am feeding it with about 80 ft of coax. Barry I would never dream of asking for the "secret recipe"!? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 21, 2016, at 2:28 PM, Barry LaZar wrote: >> >> SSB at QRP levels can be a bit challenging. I do have a KXPA100 and use it. However, I only run QRP seriously for Field Day with a group who are doing the same with KX3s. We do very well at 5 Watts, but we do have a few acres of antennas. I have found two things that make a very big difference, antenna height and minimizing antenna system loses. >> >> You say you are running a fan dipole. You don't say what you are feeding it with or how long your feed line is. I have a dipole up 40 feet and feed it with open wire to a good 4:1 current balun where I transition to LMR-400 to come into the house. You may not need a 4:1 balun for a fan dipole, but a good 1:1 balun. And, this is only needed if you have a fairly long run or want to extract the very last milliwatt out of your system. I would tell you what we do for Field Day, the extremes we take, but that would give away our competitive secret. ;-) >> >> 73, >> Barry >> K3NDM From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 15:38:59 2016 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 22:38:59 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: A dipole-type antenna should be at least 1/2 wavelength high for decent DX performance and preferably a full wavelength. An inverted V is not as good as a dipole. And the high bands are poor now in the summer and as the sunspot cycle declines. So that's one strike against you. You are running low power. Strike two. And you are trying to use SSB. You're out. If you don't like CW, I would suggest PSK, which seems to get out well with low power. If you really want voice and DX then you should consider both raising your antenna and increasing power. Vic 4X6GP > On 21 Jun 2016, at 21:31, Eballina wrote: > > I am feeding it with about 80 ft of coax. Barry I would never dream of asking for the "secret recipe"!? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 21, 2016, at 2:28 PM, Barry LaZar wrote: >> >> SSB at QRP levels can be a bit challenging. I do have a KXPA100 and use it. However, I only run QRP seriously for Field Day with a group who are doing the same with KX3s. We do very well at 5 Watts, but we do have a few acres of antennas. I have found two things that make a very big difference, antenna height and minimizing antenna system loses. >> >> You say you are running a fan dipole. You don't say what you are feeding it with or how long your feed line is. I have a dipole up 40 feet and feed it with open wire to a good 4:1 current balun where I transition to LMR-400 to come into the house. You may not need a 4:1 balun for a fan dipole, but a good 1:1 balun. And, this is only needed if you have a fairly long run or want to extract the very last milliwatt out of your system. I would tell you what we do for Field Day, the extremes we take, but that would give away our competitive secret. ;-) >> >> 73, >> Barry >> K3NDM >> >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Eballina" >> To: "Barry LaZar" >> Cc: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Sent: 6/21/2016 2:12:55 PM >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? >> >>> Thanks Barry, up about 30 feetr al top of >>> of inverted V. Ends of antenna up about 25 ft. SSB phone preferred but did pick up PSK31 Signalink but prefer voice. >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jun 21, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Barry LaZar wrote: >>>> >>>> You don't say how high your antenna is or what modes you are using. However, If you aren't already there, I would get my antenna up at least about 35 feet, 60 feet would surely be better. At QRP power levels, I would focus on CW or PSK31, or one of the other weak signal modes. The exception is 10 or 15 meters where anything that can be radiated seems to work. The problem is 10 and 15 aren't open all the time meaning you are going to need to do a lot of listening on these bands if you want to be successful. There is a trick you might want to employ, using the beacons that are there and knowing their schedule. Just leave your receiver on on one of them, and when you hear it, you know the band is open to that part of the world. >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> Barry >>>> K3NDM >>>> >>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>> From: "Road Runner" >>>> To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> Sent: 6/21/2016 1:08:06 PM >>>> Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? >>>> >>>>> Have had my KX3 for a couple of weeks and love it. Biggest issue I have is even at 15 watts, unless conditions are right, I am having issues making DX contacts. The KX3 is connected to an Alpha Delta 80-6 meter fan dipole. I have been thinking about getting the KXPA 100 but wonder whether it will be enough of a bang for the buck. I use this at a summer cottage, at home I started with a Kenwood Ts-590SG and eventually upgraded the rig with an Ameritron 811H to get more punch. I have no problems getting picked out of pileup so now... >>>>> So my question is for those of you that have gone the upgrade path to KXPA100... Did you get enough punch or are you wishing you had gone with more power? I am not really too crazy about going all the way to the KPA500... >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>>> >>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>>> Message delivered to k3ndm at comcast.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2vco.vic at gmail.com From ken at arcomcontrollers.com Tue Jun 21 16:11:57 2016 From: ken at arcomcontrollers.com (Ken Arck) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 13:11:57 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Headset In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have a set of KOSS SB 40's and they're great on the RX side but the cheap dynamic mic that comes as part of it sounds like @#*^%#@ on TX, regardless of how I've tried to compensate using the EQ Ken At 10:27 AM 5/26/2016, Dave Hachadorian wrote: >I forgot to mention that the SB-45 also has a nice padded >headband. It doesn't irritate the top of my bald head as much as >the rough webbing of the CM500. Judging from the pictures of the >crowds at Dayton this year, this could be a very significant >feature for a lot of hams! > >Dave Hachadorian, K6LL >Yuma, AZ > > >-----Original Message----- From: Mike Harris >Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 7:14 AM >To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >Subject: [Elecraft] Headset > >Hi, > >If I remember correctly the Koss SB45 headset has been offered as a >suitable substitute for the K3 weapon of choice the Yamaha CM500. Any >experience out there? > >My much used CM500 are starting to shed the leatherette covering and the >foam inside the cavities is wearing away. CM500 can be rather difficult >to source. > >Regards, > >Mike VP8NO >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to k6ll.dave at gmail.com >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to ken at arcomcontrollers.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" From wa6nhc at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 16:32:18 2016 From: wa6nhc at gmail.com (Rick WA6NHC) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 13:32:18 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: With some recent serious study lately for FD planning, including an HFTA study based on the actual site used (yeah a serious contester took the time), you may also discover that 'common' thinking isn't always correct about dipoles over dirt. Based on that review, with as little as 1/4 wavelength above dirt, good things start to happen beyond NVIS (straight up) activity, the takeoff angle falls. At ~3/8 wave, the radiation angle of a dipole comes down remarkably, almost to the magic 2 deg level (best chance of DX or longer openings). At about a half wave up, the advantage is less for the extra height (less return on the 'investment'), improvements came slower per altitude change. The same can be said of beams but with the added gain (Yagi, enhanced dipoles). At another point, the advantages start to reverse too. It was an interesting study. If you can get the height and afford the line losses in QRP, great. But if you can't, get the dipole at least 3/8 wavelengths above dirt. You might consider the JT modes. While extremely s_l__o___w they do very well with minimal received signals (note I didn't say low transmit power). I just can't bear the 15 Q/hour maximum rate (5 minutes to complete one exchange). ;-) 73, Rick nhc On 6/21/2016 12:38 PM, Vic Rosenthal wrote: > A dipole-type antenna should be at least 1/2 wavelength high for decent DX performance and preferably a full wavelength. An inverted V is not as good as a dipole. And the high bands are poor now in the summer and as the sunspot cycle declines. So that's one strike against you. You are running low power. Strike two. And you are trying to use SSB. You're out. > If you don't like CW, I would suggest PSK, which seems to get out well with low power. If you really want voice and DX then you should consider both raising your antenna and increasing power. > > Vic 4X6GP > >> On 21 Jun 2016, at 21:31, Eballina wrote: >> >> I am feeding it with about 80 ft of coax. Barry I would never dream of asking for the "secret recipe"!? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 21, 2016, at 2:28 PM, Barry LaZar wrote: >>> >>> SSB at QRP levels can be a bit challenging. I do have a KXPA100 and use it. However, I only run QRP seriously for Field Day with a group who are doing the same with KX3s. We do very well at 5 Watts, but we do have a few acres of antennas. I have found two things that make a very big difference, antenna height and minimizing antenna system loses. >>> >>> You say you are running a fan dipole. You don't say what you are feeding it with or how long your feed line is. I have a dipole up 40 feet and feed it with open wire to a good 4:1 current balun where I transition to LMR-400 to come into the house. You may not need a 4:1 balun for a fan dipole, but a good 1:1 balun. And, this is only needed if you have a fairly long run or want to extract the very last milliwatt out of your system. I would tell you what we do for Field Day, the extremes we take, but that would give away our competitive secret. ;-) >>> >>> 73, >>> Barry >>> K3NDM >>> >>> >>> >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: "Eballina" >>> To: "Barry LaZar" >>> Cc: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> Sent: 6/21/2016 2:12:55 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? >>> >>>> Thanks Barry, up about 30 feetr al top of >>>> of inverted V. Ends of antenna up about 25 ft. SSB phone preferred but did pick up PSK31 Signalink but prefer voice. >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Jun 21, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Barry LaZar wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You don't say how high your antenna is or what modes you are using. However, If you aren't already there, I would get my antenna up at least about 35 feet, 60 feet would surely be better. At QRP power levels, I would focus on CW or PSK31, or one of the other weak signal modes. The exception is 10 or 15 meters where anything that can be radiated seems to work. The problem is 10 and 15 aren't open all the time meaning you are going to need to do a lot of listening on these bands if you want to be successful. There is a trick you might want to employ, using the beacons that are there and knowing their schedule. Just leave your receiver on on one of them, and when you hear it, you know the band is open to that part of the world. >>>>> >>>>> 73, >>>>> Barry >>>>> K3NDM >>>>> >>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>> From: "Road Runner" >>>>> To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>>> Sent: 6/21/2016 1:08:06 PM >>>>> Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? >>>>> >>>>>> Have had my KX3 for a couple of weeks and love it. Biggest issue I have is even at 15 watts, unless conditions are right, I am having issues making DX contacts. The KX3 is connected to an Alpha Delta 80-6 meter fan dipole. I have been thinking about getting the KXPA 100 but wonder whether it will be enough of a bang for the buck. I use this at a summer cottage, at home I started with a Kenwood Ts-590SG and eventually upgraded the rig with an Ameritron 811H to get more punch. I have no problems getting picked out of pileup so now... >>>>>> So my question is for those of you that have gone the upgrade path to KXPA100... Did you get enough punch or are you wishing you had gone with more power? I am not really too crazy about going all the way to the KPA500... >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>>>> >>>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>>>> Message delivered to k3ndm at comcast.net >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k2vco.vic at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wa6nhc at gmail.com From w4sc at windstream.net Tue Jun 21 16:51:11 2016 From: w4sc at windstream.net (w4sc) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 16:51:11 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft] RFI on K3s Message-ID: <979E2DB82D374CE2AE44E0C1A9E7FA24@z22z28> Some one ask for this........ On ePay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-feet-10-AWG-Shielded-Twisted-Pair-Silver-Plated-Cable-speaker-wire-37-strands-/381493258989?hash=item58d2c52aed:g:2YEAAOSwTapV4jU~ de Ben W4SC From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue Jun 21 16:59:32 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 13:59:32 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9e1d5a75-b6e8-0ac0-4e3b-18fa7d0e1d18@audiosystemsgroup.com> Yes. Rick's study, using HFTA, takes terrain into account. I've done a similar study using NEC, which assumes "flatland," and produces similar results. BUT -- what HFTA tells you is unique to whatever terrain data you give it. What Rick is describing is good for HIS QTH, but may not be good for yours. Here's are links to my study. The first is text format, the second are slides for talks I've given at Pacificon and to several ham clubs. http://k9yc.com/AntennaPlanning.pdf http://k9yc.com/VertOrHorizontal-Slides.pdf One thing that HFTA will tell you (correctly) is that if you're on a hilltop, you don't need as much height as you would on "flatland." My dipoles for 80 and 40M (two fans at right angles to each other) are at 140 ft, and they really play well. Likewise, a pair for 30M at 100 ft work great. 73, Jim K9YC On Tue,6/21/2016 1:32 PM, Rick WA6NHC wrote: > Based on that review, with as little as 1/4 wavelength above dirt, > good things start to happen beyond NVIS (straight up) activity, the > takeoff angle falls. At ~3/8 wave, the radiation angle of a dipole > comes down remarkably, almost to the magic 2 deg level (best chance of > DX or longer openings). At about a half wave up, the advantage is > less for the extra height (less return on the 'investment'), > improvements came slower per altitude change. The same can be said of > beams but with the added gain (Yagi, enhanced dipoles). At another > point, the advantages start to reverse too. It was an interesting study. From w2blc at nycap.rr.com Tue Jun 21 17:06:45 2016 From: w2blc at nycap.rr.com (Bill) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 17:06:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] OT - FCC Seeks "Noise Floor" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2523e86e-2fbd-ca8a-c7cc-84f775e3662d@nycap.rr.com> And the FCC will enforce anything? Bill W2BLC K-Line From ghyoungman at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 17:43:44 2016 From: ghyoungman at gmail.com (Grant Youngman) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 16:43:44 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <979E2DB82D374CE2AE44E0C1A9E7FA24@z22z28> References: <979E2DB82D374CE2AE44E0C1A9E7FA24@z22z28> Message-ID: <6AC6F7D4-3F22-4C9C-AA67-4391D4D82A5C@gmail.com> I'm still wondering why anyone would BUY a bit of 10 ga twisted pair. It blows the mind. To each his own I suppose .... but really? On the other hand, I do know one or two hams who will stare at a pair of RCA plugs and a bit of wire with a deer-in-the-headlights look in their eyes and then drive to RS to buy a cable. smh ... Grant NQ5T Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 21, 2016, at 3:51 PM, w4sc wrote: > > Some one ask for this........ > > On ePay: > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-feet-10-AWG-Shielded-Twisted-Pair-Silver-Plated-Cable-speaker-wire-37-strands-/381493258989?hash=item58d2c52aed:g:2YEAAOSwTapV4jU~ > > From riese-k3djc at juno.com Tue Jun 21 18:05:28 2016 From: riese-k3djc at juno.com (riese-k3djc at juno.com) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 18:05:28 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft] RFI on K3s Message-ID: its silver plated Bob K3DJC On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 16:43:44 -0500 Grant Youngman writes: > I'm still wondering why anyone would BUY a bit of 10 ga twisted pair. > It blows the mind. > > To each his own I suppose .... but really? > > On the other hand, I do know one or two hams who will stare at a > pair of RCA plugs and a bit of wire with a deer-in-the-headlights > look in their eyes and then drive to RS to buy a cable. > > smh ... > > Grant NQ5T > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 21, 2016, at 3:51 PM, w4sc wrote: > > > > Some one ask for this........ > > > > On ePay: > > > > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-feet-10-AWG-Shielded-Twisted-Pair-Silver-Plate d-Cable-speaker-wire-37-strands-/381493258989?hash=item58d2c52aed:g:2YEAA OSwTapV4jU~ > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to riese-k3djc at juno.com > From fred at fmeco.com Tue Jun 21 18:26:04 2016 From: fred at fmeco.com (Fred Moore) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 18:26:04 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 speaker Message-ID: Does anyone make an amplified speaker that closely matches the look and size of the KX3 that sounds good. Any recommendations.. thanks in advance.. Fred -- Fred Moore email: fred at fmeco.com fred at safes.com phone: 321-217-8699 From w7nmd at suddenlink.net Tue Jun 21 19:01:11 2016 From: w7nmd at suddenlink.net (Palmer Byrne) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 18:01:11 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3-100 For Sale Message-ID: I am turning 83 this year and am down sizing my equipment and selling my beloved K3. It is in excellent condition; only one non-smoking owner. Just back from Elecraft after complete checkup and alignment. Factory Repair Report included. Radio includes: 100 watt amplifier KAT3A Automatic antenna tuner, K144XV Internal 2M 10w module and K144RFLK K144XV Reference Lock Board. In addition to the standard 2.7khz 5 pole filter it includes: InRad 700 700Hz, 8 pole filter, KFL3A-1.8K-F 1.8kHz, 8-pole filter KFL3A-6K 6khz AM/ESSB 8 pole filter, and the KFL3A-FM 13khz AM/FM 8 pole filter. K3EXREF Ext. Frequency Reference Input, KXV3B RX Ant, 2nd Pre-Amp, IF Out and Xverter Interface upgrade, KSYN3A Synthesizer upgrade, Neogrip VFO A knob and Stainless Steel Kit. All updates performed. Factory calibrated to meet or exceed factory specs. Factory shipping container. $2595 shipped & insured CONUS. Prefer PayPal. 870-425-4257. 73 Palmer Byrne W7NMD From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue Jun 21 19:18:33 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 16:18:33 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <969f8a5e-1e15-b789-f240-c4bc48e3cb0f@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Tue,6/21/2016 3:05 PM, riese-k3djc at juno.com wrote: > its silver plated Which, contrary to the hype from ripoff artists in the high futility world will try to tell you, offers NO performance benefit over POC (plain, ordinary copper) in even the most esoteric of audio systems. There's a classic AES Paper from the '70s by E.E. Prof R. A. Greiner (now emeritus) who was at Univ of Wis at Madison showing conclusively that exotic loudspeaker cables are a complete waste of money, and the only thing that matters for real world loudspeakers is low DC resistance. In other words, short, fat copper. The thing it affects is "damping factor" -- that is, the ability of the very low Z output stage to damp a floppy woofer. Damping factor is, by definition, the Z of the loudspeaker divided by the sum of the output Z of the amplifier plus the resistance of the cable, and it's low frequencies we're talking about, so it's DCR. There's a classic AES Paper from the '70s by E.E. Prof R. A. Greiner (now emeritus) who was at Univ of Wis at Madison showing conclusively that exotic loudspeaker cables are a complete waste of money, and the only thing that matters for real world loudspeakers is low DC resistance. In other words, short, fat copper. The thing it affects is "damping factor" -- that is, the ability of the very low Z output stage to damp a floppy woofer. Damping factor is, by definition, the Z of the loudspeaker divided by the sum of the output Z of the amplifier plus the resistance of the cable, and it's low frequencies we're talking about, so it's DCR. There's a classic AES Paper from the '70s by E.E. Prof R. A. Greiner (now emeritus) who was at Univ of Wis at Madison showing conclusively that exotic loudspeaker cables are a complete waste of money, and the only thing that matters for real world loudspeakers is low DC resistance. In other words, short, fat copper. The thing it affects is "damping factor" -- that is, the ability of the very low Z output stage to damp a floppy woofer. Damping factor is, by definition, the Z of the loudspeaker divided by the sum of the output Z of the amplifier plus the resistance of the cable, and it's low frequencies we're talking about, so it's DCR. The laws of physics have not changed since the '70s. :) 73, Jim K9YC From n6kr at elecraft.com Tue Jun 21 19:56:52 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 16:56:52 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Drop by an Elmer's garage for a virtual chat Message-ID: <4B34A9FA-01AC-4A80-9FC9-892E0D9C3AD0@elecraft.com> Hi all, My friend 4Z1UG (Eric), who created the QSO Today podcast, has added a "virtual Elmer's garage" feature, a.k.a. The QSO Today Community. He's already signed up a collection of very experienced hams to open up their "garages" for casual drop-bys. See: http://www.qsotodaycommunity.com/ Just like its brick 'n' mortar neighborhood counterpart, it's a friendly place where you can poke your head in, check out the station, and ask a question on any subject you like. It's totally low-key. No, you can't borrow a ladder. But you can certainly ask what the heck ladder-line is :) Enjoy-- Wayne N6KR From k6dgw at foothill.net Tue Jun 21 20:06:00 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 17:06:00 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] OT - FCC Seeks "Noise Floor" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5882bb25-e972-f291-6925-caff3e986a7c@foothill.net> Well actually, not quite. Incidental radiators are the noisemakers such a power lines arcing. They radiate RF but have no need to. They also do it across broad frequency ranges over several tens of MHz. Unintentional radiators are computers, wall warts and SMPS, plasma TV's, and the like. They generate RF internally for their operation, but do not intend to radiate it. Alas, thanks to James Maxwell, they do. Intentional radiators are those unlicensed devices that must radiate RF to function ... WiFi, Bluetooth, cell phones, etc. They tend to be confined to certain bands [usually ISM bands like 2.4 GHz]. Many are spread-spectrum types of signals, and in a narrow receive BW just raise the noise floor a bit. Some intentional radiators are in other than ISM bands. 443.93 MHz, familiar to most hams, is full of beeps, squawks, and other very short bursts. They're remote reading thermometers, and other sensors. Some RFID equipment operates on that and a few other frequencies which can be a problem for hams near ports, large rail yards, and intermodal yards. Pacific Gas and Electric remote-reading meters are said to be around 500 MHz in a mesh network of some sort. The TAC in the original link points out that quantitative data on the noise floor is sparse at best and very hard to obtain and analyze since it depends on so many factors in an almost infinite number of locations. As to FCC enforcement or the lack of it, in the 50's the Commission was very active in enforcement ... especially if it affected commercial communications. Today, the FCC is very much more a "Coordinator of Communications" than an enforcement agency. I've concluded that, "It is what it is," and there aren't many ways to quantify noise floor for a finite amount of investment dollars. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org On 6/21/2016 10:39 AM, Barry LaZar wrote: > David, > This is interesting. But, how does it relate to the regulations > already on the books having to do with incidental radiation? That's the > regulation set that controls conducted and radiated noise from > powerlines, TV, computers, etc. > > 73, > Barry > K3NDM From jimk0xu at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 20:19:37 2016 From: jimk0xu at gmail.com (Jim Rhodes) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 19:19:37 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Headset In-Reply-To: <20160621201245.D0F71149B34F@mailman.qth.net> References: <20160621201245.D0F71149B34F@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: I wore out one SB-40 over 15 to 20 years, so I bought another one. Get good audio reports on the rare instances I get on phone. On Jun 21, 2016 3:12 PM, "Ken Arck" wrote: > I have a set of KOSS SB 40's and they're great on the RX side but the > cheap dynamic mic that comes as part of it sounds like @#*^%#@ on TX, > regardless of how I've tried to compensate using the EQ > > Ken > > > > > > At 10:27 AM 5/26/2016, Dave Hachadorian wrote: > >> I forgot to mention that the SB-45 also has a nice padded headband. It >> doesn't irritate the top of my bald head as much as the rough webbing of >> the CM500. Judging from the pictures of the crowds at Dayton this year, >> this could be a very significant feature for a lot of hams! >> >> Dave Hachadorian, K6LL >> Yuma, AZ >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Mike Harris >> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 7:14 AM >> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: [Elecraft] Headset >> >> Hi, >> >> If I remember correctly the Koss SB45 headset has been offered as a >> suitable substitute for the K3 weapon of choice the Yamaha CM500. Any >> experience out there? >> >> My much used CM500 are starting to shed the leatherette covering and the >> foam inside the cavities is wearing away. CM500 can be rather difficult >> to source. >> >> Regards, >> >> Mike VP8NO >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k6ll.dave at gmail.com >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ken at arcomcontrollers.com >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > President and CTO - Arcom Communications > Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. > http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ > Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and > we offer complete repeater packages! > AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 > http://www.irlp.net > "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jimk0xu at gmail.com > From 99sunset at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 20:26:50 2016 From: 99sunset at gmail.com (Steve Hall) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 20:26:50 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100 Message-ID: The KPA500 is a great amp. With 15 Watts in (as an example of a KX3), I am measuring 375 Watts out. WM6P From wunder at wunderwood.org Tue Jun 21 20:33:52 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 17:33:52 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Headset In-Reply-To: References: <20160621201245.D0F71149B34F@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: <10F1D7EE-28FC-41A9-B762-60E42D8ED717@wunderwood.org> Reports on the list favor the Yamaha CM-500 or the Koss SB-45. Both have electret mics. In this price range (under a few hundred dollars), an electret mic is by far the best option. The Koss SB-40 has a dynamic mic. I haven?t tried it, but making a good dynamic mic at that price is a huge engineering challenge. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jun 21, 2016, at 5:19 PM, Jim Rhodes wrote: > > I wore out one SB-40 over 15 to 20 years, so I bought another one. Get > good audio reports on the rare instances I get on phone. > On Jun 21, 2016 3:12 PM, "Ken Arck" wrote: > >> I have a set of KOSS SB 40's and they're great on the RX side but the >> cheap dynamic mic that comes as part of it sounds like @#*^%#@ on TX, >> regardless of how I've tried to compensate using the EQ >> >> Ken >> >> >> >> >> >> At 10:27 AM 5/26/2016, Dave Hachadorian wrote: >> >>> I forgot to mention that the SB-45 also has a nice padded headband. It >>> doesn't irritate the top of my bald head as much as the rough webbing of >>> the CM500. Judging from the pictures of the crowds at Dayton this year, >>> this could be a very significant feature for a lot of hams! >>> >>> Dave Hachadorian, K6LL >>> Yuma, AZ >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Mike Harris >>> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 7:14 AM >>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> Subject: [Elecraft] Headset >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> If I remember correctly the Koss SB45 headset has been offered as a >>> suitable substitute for the K3 weapon of choice the Yamaha CM500. Any >>> experience out there? >>> >>> My much used CM500 are starting to shed the leatherette covering and the >>> foam inside the cavities is wearing away. CM500 can be rather difficult >>> to source. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Mike VP8NO >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to k6ll.dave at gmail.com >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to ken at arcomcontrollers.com >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> President and CTO - Arcom Communications >> Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. >> http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ >> Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and >> we offer complete repeater packages! >> AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 >> http://www.irlp.net >> "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to jimk0xu at gmail.com >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From wunder at wunderwood.org Tue Jun 21 20:41:45 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 17:41:45 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <969f8a5e-1e15-b789-f240-c4bc48e3cb0f@audiosystemsgroup.com> References: <969f8a5e-1e15-b789-f240-c4bc48e3cb0f@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: But thanks to the skin effect, silver plated power cables should conduct RFI energy BETTER than regular copper cables. I wasn?t going to respond again, but I?m weak. Eric should be invoking the ?damping factor? on this thread soon. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jun 21, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > > On Tue,6/21/2016 3:05 PM, riese-k3djc at juno.com wrote: >> its silver plated > > Which, contrary to the hype from ripoff artists in the high futility world will try to tell you, offers NO performance benefit over POC (plain, ordinary copper) in even the most esoteric of audio systems. > > There's a classic AES Paper from the '70s by E.E. Prof R. A. Greiner (now emeritus) who was at Univ of Wis at Madison showing conclusively that exotic loudspeaker cables are a complete waste of money, and the only thing that matters for real world loudspeakers is low DC resistance. In other words, short, fat copper. The thing it affects is "damping factor" -- that is, the ability of the very low Z output stage to damp a floppy woofer. Damping factor is, by definition, the Z of the loudspeaker divided by the sum of the output Z of the amplifier plus the resistance of the cable, and it's low frequencies we're talking about, so it's DCR. > There's a classic AES Paper from the '70s by E.E. Prof R. A. Greiner (now emeritus) who was at Univ of Wis at Madison showing conclusively that exotic loudspeaker cables are a complete waste of money, and the only thing that matters for real world loudspeakers is low DC resistance. In other words, short, fat copper. The thing it affects is "damping factor" -- that is, the ability of the very low Z output stage to damp a floppy woofer. Damping factor is, by definition, the Z of the loudspeaker divided by the sum of the output Z of the amplifier plus the resistance of the cable, and it's low frequencies we're talking about, so it's DCR. > > There's a classic AES Paper from the '70s by E.E. Prof R. A. Greiner (now emeritus) who was at Univ of Wis at Madison showing conclusively that exotic loudspeaker cables are a complete waste of money, and the only thing that matters for real world loudspeakers is low DC resistance. In other words, short, fat copper. > > The thing it affects is "damping factor" -- that is, the ability of the very low Z output stage to damp a floppy woofer. Damping factor is, by definition, the Z of the loudspeaker divided by the sum of the output Z of the amplifier plus the resistance of the cable, and it's low frequencies we're talking about, so it's DCR. > > The laws of physics have not changed since the '70s. :) > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue Jun 21 21:17:19 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 18:17:19 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: References: <969f8a5e-1e15-b789-f240-c4bc48e3cb0f@audiosystemsgroup.com> Message-ID: On Tue,6/21/2016 5:41 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: > But thanks to the skin effect, silver plated power cables should conduct RFI energy BETTER than regular copper cables. Yes, but those silver plated cables are being touted for for loudspeakers, where, as I noted in an earlier post, cable resistance matters at LOW audio frequencies (200 Hz and below). And the application we're talking about here is for DC power. In both applications, there is NO skin effect. 73, Jim K9YC From a45wg at sy-edm.com Tue Jun 21 22:46:28 2016 From: a45wg at sy-edm.com (a45wg) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 06:46:28 +0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <728574E1-5056-4826-A317-6F6B5ECCEF9A@sy-edm.com> Using 15 W out from my K3-S (Max power for your KX3 as you indicated) my KPA500 pushes out 330 Watts ? Why bother with 100W when you can have 330 ?? There is however a difference in purchase price $2k vs $800 (aprox) - and if you need a tuner that will be another $700. Sorry to say I kept the KX3 for mobile/QRP and just got a K3S, KAT500 and KPA500. Enjoy your dilemma Tim > On 21 Jun 2016, at 21:08, Road Runner wrote: > > Have had my KX3 for a couple of weeks and love it. Biggest issue I have is even at 15 watts, unless conditions are right, I am having issues making DX contacts. The KX3 is connected to an Alpha Delta 80-6 meter fan dipole. I have been thinking about getting the KXPA 100 but wonder whether it will be enough of a bang for the buck. I use this at a summer cottage, at home I started with a Kenwood Ts-590SG and eventually upgraded the rig with an Ameritron 811H to get more punch. I have no problems getting picked out of pileup so now... > So my question is for those of you that have gone the upgrade path to KXPA100... Did you get enough punch or are you wishing you had gone with more power? I am not really too crazy about going all the way to the KPA500... > > Sent from my iPad > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to a45wg at sy-edm.com From cautery at montac.com Tue Jun 21 22:54:41 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 21:54:41 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <6AC6F7D4-3F22-4C9C-AA67-4391D4D82A5C@gmail.com> References: <979E2DB82D374CE2AE44E0C1A9E7FA24@z22z28> <6AC6F7D4-3F22-4C9C-AA67-4391D4D82A5C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <949b4816-2946-6abd-ce80-3d7ab5f265fc@montac.com> It IS really nice cable though... Used that type and multi-conductor of same spec to wire helicopters when I was a Aviation MTP... Beautiful stuff. ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 6/21/2016 4:43 PM, Grant Youngman wrote: > I'm still wondering why anyone would BUY a bit of 10 ga twisted pair. It blows the mind. > > To each his own I suppose .... but really? > > On the other hand, I do know one or two hams who will stare at a pair of RCA plugs and a bit of wire with a deer-in-the-headlights look in their eyes and then drive to RS to buy a cable. > > smh ... > > Grant NQ5T > > Sent from my iPhone > From n7xy at n7xy.net Tue Jun 21 23:05:48 2016 From: n7xy at n7xy.net (Bob Nielsen) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 20:05:48 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? In-Reply-To: <728574E1-5056-4826-A317-6F6B5ECCEF9A@sy-edm.com> References: <728574E1-5056-4826-A317-6F6B5ECCEF9A@sy-edm.com> Message-ID: Has anyone tried using a RM Italy HLA 305 or 305V with a K2, KX2, K3 or KX3? The review in QST a few months ago was positive. Over 200 watts out for less than $700 (not counting an antenna tuner). Bob, N7XY On 6/21/16 7:46 PM, a45wg wrote: > Using 15 W out from my K3-S (Max power for your KX3 as you indicated) my KPA500 pushes out 330 Watts ? Why bother with 100W when you can have 330 ?? There is however a difference in purchase price $2k vs $800 (aprox) - and if you need a tuner that will be another $700. > > Sorry to say I kept the KX3 for mobile/QRP and just got a K3S, KAT500 and KPA500. > > Enjoy your dilemma > > Tim > > > >> On 21 Jun 2016, at 21:08, Road Runner wrote: >> >> Have had my KX3 for a couple of weeks and love it. Biggest issue I have is even at 15 watts, unless conditions are right, I am having issues making DX contacts. The KX3 is connected to an Alpha Delta 80-6 meter fan dipole. I have been thinking about getting the KXPA 100 but wonder whether it will be enough of a bang for the buck. I use this at a summer cottage, at home I started with a Kenwood Ts-590SG and eventually upgraded the rig with an Ameritron 811H to get more punch. I have no problems getting picked out of pileup so now... >> So my question is for those of you that have gone the upgrade path to KXPA100... Did you get enough punch or are you wishing you had gone with more power? I am not really too crazy about going all the way to the KPA500... >> >> Sent from my iPad >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to a45wg at sy-edm.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n7xy at n7xy.net From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Wed Jun 22 01:48:08 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 21:48:08 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s Message-ID: <201606220548.u5M5m9X9028621@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> One can convert red/black zip wire pretty easily: zip wire separates by pulling the red side away from the black so you end up with two separate wires (you can even leave the power-pole connector on one end). Then twist the two wires to obtain twisted-pair. No waste of those existing power cables. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From wb3fsr at comcast.net Wed Jun 22 02:04:38 2016 From: wb3fsr at comcast.net (Peter D. Vouvounas) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 02:04:38 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 KCOMM & CW Skimmer Message-ID: <008c01d1cc4b$f64c3ce0$e2e4b6a0$@net> If any of you are familiar with KComm using a KX3 & CW Skimmer I could use ur help. Trying out several logging and control solutions prior to FD. I have not been able to get KComm to connect with Skimmer. Perhaps one or more of you have more experience with this app and could provide some insight. 73 PeterV WB3FSR From gm3sek at ifwtech.co.uk Wed Jun 22 02:54:52 2016 From: gm3sek at ifwtech.co.uk (Ian White) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 07:54:52 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] Headset In-Reply-To: <20160621201212.3CB4D2AB4BDF@mailman.qth.net> References: <20160621201212.3CB4D2AB4BDF@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: <005201d1cc52$ff46f540$fdd4dfc0$@co.uk> >I have a set of KOSS SB 40's and they're great on the RX side but the >cheap dynamic mic that comes as part of it sounds like @#*^%#@ But weren't we discussing the SB-forty-FIVE? The *electret* mic in the Koss SB-45 is excellent, and works very well with the K3 for a wide range of different voices. For those who prefer a lighter headset with on-ear earpieces, the Koss CS-100 gives equally good results. Both the SB-45 and the CS-100 can be highly recommended. 73 from Ian GM3SEK From glen.torr at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 03:56:09 2016 From: glen.torr at gmail.com (Glen Torr) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 17:56:09 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 [FS] VK Message-ID: Hi All, For sale, K SN 2680. Includes:- General Coverge RX 700, 2.8K, 6.0 and 15K 8 pole filters. 100 Watt ATU Upgraded DSP Board SS screws P3 SN 150 K144XV internal 2 meter module. Original owner, non smoker, little operating time. Built by professional electronics technical officer. AUD $4,500 negotiable. prefer VK 1,2 or 3 but not a show stopper elsewhere. KX3 and KXPA 1000 are now favourites. Glen Torr, VK1FB From eric at elecraft.com Wed Jun 22 05:49:00 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 11:49:00 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s In-Reply-To: <201606220548.u5M5m9X9028621@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201606220548.u5M5m9X9028621@mail40c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <741021C3-C140-46B0-A66D-5AEE49679BC7@elecraft.com> Let's end this recurring thread for now in the interest of relieving email topic overload for others :-) Its well exceeding our single OT posting limit and has a wealth of past posts on this topic in our nabble archives etc. 73, Eric (a.k.a. Mr. Moderator) elecraft.com --- Sent from my iPhone 6S > On Jun 22, 2016, at 7:48 AM, Edward R Cole wrote: > > One can convert red/black zip wire pretty easily: zip wire separates by pulling the red side away from the black so you end up with two separate wires (you can even leave the power-pole connector on one end). Then twist the two wires to obtain twisted-pair. No waste of those existing power cables. > > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > "Kits made by KL7UW" > Dubus Mag business: > dubususa at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com > From sm.shearer.01 at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 10:23:14 2016 From: sm.shearer.01 at gmail.com (Stephen Shearer) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 10:23:14 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 KCOMM & CW Skimmer In-Reply-To: <008c01d1cc4b$f64c3ce0$e2e4b6a0$@net> References: <008c01d1cc4b$f64c3ce0$e2e4b6a0$@net> Message-ID: <51d8cbdc-69a8-c279-b56e-1cf1cfb8ee7e@gmail.com> I got away from KComm because it hasn't been updated since 2013. I found fldigi to work better and is updated often. I will use N3FJP's http://www.n3fjp.com/fieldday.html for FD. I use N1MM for other contests, too. steve WB3LGC On 22-Jun-16 2:04 AM, Peter D. Vouvounas wrote: > If any of you are familiar with KComm using a KX3 & CW Skimmer I could use > ur help. Trying out several logging and control solutions prior to FD. > > > > I have not been able to get KComm to connect with Skimmer. Perhaps one or > more of you have more experience with this app and could provide some > insight. > > > > 73 > > > > PeterV WB3FSR > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to sm.shearer.01 at gmail.com > From nick-wa5bdu at suddenlink.net Wed Jun 22 10:39:13 2016 From: nick-wa5bdu at suddenlink.net (Nick Kennedy) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 09:39:13 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 'SHIFT' not functional Message-ID: <669FB3D07C4B4841B872B3A9AC54716A@blackmike> Hi All, My K3?s ?SHIFT? control no longer shifts. It stays at the CW pitch frequency I?ve dialed up as indicated by ?FC *0.44?, for example, when I turn the knob. I had been setting up the rig for Field Day (taking out macros, etc.) when this occurred. This is happening in the CW mode. In fact, I just verified that SHIFT works normally in SSB and AM modes. The WIDTH control works normally as well. Searching the manual, it seems that using XFIL can disable SHIFT. Maybe I accidentally hit XFIL. But if I did, how do I go back to normal? When I rotate the WIDTH control, my filters are sequenced in and out as expected. No CAT is currently connected. At least it?s not fatal, but it would be nice to get the function back before Saturday. 73/TU, Nick, WA5BDU From Dubinse at aol.com Wed Jun 22 10:54:54 2016 From: Dubinse at aol.com (Dubinse at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 10:54:54 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Kady K3 Book available Message-ID: When I got my K3 last year, I didn't realize that the deal included a copy of Fred Kady's K3 book. I ordered a copy from Elecraft, but I was too late in trying to cancel my order. Result is that I have a nice used copy (residing on my clothes hamper covered with tear stains and candle wax) and a new copy, in the original mailing box. I would like for it (the new copy) to have a good home. I will be happy to trade for (a) a certain microphone adapter cord ( IC-735 to JT270) for which I can supply pin-outs or (b) CW sked with Alaska (first choice) or (Nebraska) including LOTW AND card no matter how long it takes to prehend my puny sigs and lousy fist. Alternatively I will pay attention to any other offer or request. Please reply to _dubinse at aol.com_ (mailto:dubinse at aol.com) VY TNX ES 73 de W3UEC (Steve Dubin) From rodenkirch_llc at msn.com Wed Jun 22 11:18:24 2016 From: rodenkirch_llc at msn.com (Jim Rodenkirch) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 08:18:24 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] OT KX2/KX3 Logging Program Q In-Reply-To: <57697bdf.84a76b0a.17a63.fffffebe@mx.google.com> References: <57697bdf.84a76b0a.17a63.fffffebe@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <1466608704472-7619158.post@n2.nabble.com> Easily done, Buddy...call me... -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/OT-KX2-KX3-Logging-Program-Q-tp7619117p7619158.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From cautery at montac.com Wed Jun 22 11:18:42 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 10:18:42 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 'SHIFT' not functional In-Reply-To: <669FB3D07C4B4841B872B3A9AC54716A@blackmike> References: <669FB3D07C4B4841B872B3A9AC54716A@blackmike> Message-ID: <49f302da-b29e-ac07-b28c-7acd11e65175@montac.com> While you are on a band/mode/etc where the shift pot isn't working... push and hold "shift", which is the "NORM" function which will reset filtering to default... This may fix it. Just my SWAG. On 6/22/2016 9:39 AM, Nick Kennedy wrote: > Hi All, > > My K3?s ?SHIFT? control no longer shifts. It stays at the CW pitch frequency I?ve dialed up as indicated by ?FC *0.44?, for example, when I turn the knob. > > I had been setting up the rig for Field Day (taking out macros, etc.) when this occurred. > > This is happening in the CW mode. In fact, I just verified that SHIFT works normally in SSB and AM modes. The WIDTH control works normally as well. > > Searching the manual, it seems that using XFIL can disable SHIFT. Maybe I accidentally hit XFIL. But if I did, how do I go back to normal? When I rotate the WIDTH control, my filters are sequenced in and out as expected. > > No CAT is currently connected. > > At least it?s not fatal, but it would be nice to get the function back before Saturday. > > 73/TU, > > Nick, WA5BDU > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to cautery at montac.com From kevin at k4vd.net Wed Jun 22 11:30:32 2016 From: kevin at k4vd.net (Kevin - K4VD) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 11:30:32 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 LEDs Message-ID: Does anyone else find the LEDs on the KX3 to be a little too bright? Especially the green one. It seems the red and yellow are frosted/diffuse? a little but the green one is blinding at the wrong angle. I have the LED BRT set to 1. Any chance of making position #1 even dimmer in a future release? For now I just display PS voltage which keeps the yellow lights off. Tape will work to cover them up too. But increasing the range of the adjustment seems more elegant. 73, Kevin K4VD From pubx1 at af2z.net Wed Jun 22 11:38:52 2016 From: pubx1 at af2z.net (Drew AF2Z) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 11:38:52 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <576AB10C.4010608@af2z.net> I owned my K3/10 for a couple of years before installing the KPA3 internal 100w amplifier. Prior to that I'd never had a ham rig that put out more than 30 watts. I found the 100 watt upgrade to be quite worthwhile and I've never regretted it. I've used 100 watts for a couple of years now, operating mostly CW. I'd estimate the number of increased contacts to be quite a bit more than the 45% figure someone else mentioned. This is based upon my multi year participation in monthly club sprints at 10 watts and 100. Also, I did a comprehensive power output comparison over the course of several thousands of WSPRnet "contacts" (at 1, 5 and 20 watts). I believe you can make 2x or 3x the number of contacts by going from 10 to 100 watts, everything else being equal. My antennas are fairly compromised: an indoor cobweb antenna for 10 thru 20 and a relatively low endfed wire for the lower bands. If you can improve your antenna dramatically certainly do that first. But whatever antenna you use, assuming it works at all, 100 watts will be a great improvement over 10 in my opinion. 73, Drew AF2Z On 06/21/16 13:08, Road Runner wrote: > Have had my KX3 for a couple of weeks and love it. Biggest issue I have is even at 15 watts, unless conditions are right, I am having issues making DX contacts. The KX3 is connected to an Alpha Delta 80-6 meter fan dipole. I have been thinking about getting the KXPA 100 but wonder whether it will be enough of a bang for the buck. I use this at a summer cottage, at home I started with a Kenwood Ts-590SG and eventually upgraded the rig with an Ameritron 811H to get more punch. I have no problems getting picked out of pileup so now... > So my question is for those of you that have gone the upgrade path to KXPA100... Did you get enough punch or are you wishing you had gone with more power? I am not really too crazy about going all the way to the KPA500... > > From crustacean at brig-elec.com Wed Jun 22 12:02:54 2016 From: crustacean at brig-elec.com (John Pitz) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 12:02:54 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 LEDs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1466611374.3107.16.camel@arabica> I keep mine on their lowest settings too, wish they would go lower from a battery use standpoint. For me the lowest setting is more than adequate for use in bright sunlight which for me is pretty rare. It would also be nice to be able to turn down the display brightness, Assuming the display back light is on a PWM channel... On Wed, 2016-06-22 at 11:30 -0400, Kevin - K4VD wrote: > Does anyone else find the LEDs on the KX3 to be a little too bright? > Especially the green one. It seems the red and yellow are frosted/diffuse? > a little but the green one is blinding at the wrong angle. > > I have the LED BRT set to 1. Any chance of making position #1 even dimmer > in a future release? For now I just display PS voltage which keeps the > yellow lights off. Tape will work to cover them up too. But increasing the > range of the adjustment seems more elegant. > > 73, > Kevin K4VD > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to crustacean at brig-elec.com From agmrozek at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 12:41:31 2016 From: agmrozek at gmail.com (Andy Mrozek) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 09:41:31 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Question on if folks have any experience with GemProducts KX3 Vendor Message-ID: Hi List, About 8 months ago I ordered the protective case accessory from Gemproducts off of his website. He originally had some production issues and was communicating well on his website about it. I have emailed recently and still haven't received the paid for in full product I was wondering if anyone else is in this situation and how you resolved it . It looks like a great product , but I am not sure why it takes 8 months + with full payment. Here is the products www site - http://gemsproducts.com/KX3.html Thanks , Andy From n7rjn at nobis.net Wed Jun 22 13:02:12 2016 From: n7rjn at nobis.net (Robert Nobis) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 10:02:12 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Question on if folks have any experience with GemProducts KX3 Vendor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0DE512C0-6D71-49B9-BC0B-83673C0E281A@nobis.net> Andy, I also order one of these nearly one year ago, and still have not received it. I recently sent them an email, and they apologized for the delay and referred me to their web page for details. Unfortunately the details on their web page are a bit vague and offer no information on when these will actually ship. 73, Bob Nobis - N7RJN n7rjn at nobis.net > On Jun 22, 2016, at 09:41, Andy Mrozek wrote: > > Hi List, > > About 8 months ago I ordered the protective case accessory from Gemproducts > off of his website. He originally had some production issues and was > communicating well on his website about it. I have emailed recently and > still haven't received the paid for in full product I was wondering if > anyone else is in this situation and how you resolved it . It looks like a > great product , but I am not sure why it takes 8 months + with full > payment. Here is the products www site - http://gemsproducts.com/KX3.html > > Thanks , Andy > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n7rjn at nobis.net > From seanc0x0 at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 13:21:58 2016 From: seanc0x0 at gmail.com (Sean Cavanaugh) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 11:21:58 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - KIO3 and USB to serial problems Message-ID: Hi all, I'm trying to get set up for Field Day, and as usual I'm bringing my K3. Last time I had it set up on my laptop using a USB to serial adapter and it worked fine. Since then, I've had it plugged into my shack PC using a hardware serial port, where it has been working just fine. This time around, I can not get the K3 to talk to the laptop. I've tried 4 USB->serial adapters, including an Elecraft one (using the older Prolific chipset) and a brand new FTDI-based one. None of them will talk to the K3, either in N1MM or the K3 utility. The same K3 and serial cable still work fine when talking to the PC. I've tried a number of different cables as well. Nothing works. I've verified and re-verified that the settings on the PC and the laptop are the same. Infuriatingly, I hooked up my K2 last night via the USB->serial cables I've been trying and all of them work with N1MM and the K2. I'm about at the end of my rope. I don't relish the idea of hauling a full sized PC out into a field, but it looks like that might be my only option. Anyone have any ideas of anything else I can check? Thanks and 73, Sean - VA5LF From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 13:54:13 2016 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 20:54:13 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 'SHIFT' not functional In-Reply-To: <669FB3D07C4B4841B872B3A9AC54716A@blackmike> References: <669FB3D07C4B4841B872B3A9AC54716A@blackmike> Message-ID: <52AA8091-47E8-4DE9-8532-71ED1FFD5787@gmail.com> Check to see if QRQ mode is set. It locks out the shift function. If there is a little plus sign on the right side of the display in CW mode then that's it. To turn it off, go to the CONFIG menu, CW WEIGHT and tap one of the number keys. I don't recall which, but you can find it in the manual. Vic 4X6GP > On 22 Jun 2016, at 17:39, Nick Kennedy wrote: > > Hi All, > > My K3?s ?SHIFT? control no longer shifts. It stays at the CW pitch frequency I?ve dialed up as indicated by ?FC *0.44?, for example, when I turn the knob. > > I had been setting up the rig for Field Day (taking out macros, etc.) when this occurred. > > This is happening in the CW mode. In fact, I just verified that SHIFT works normally in SSB and AM modes. The WIDTH control works normally as well. > > Searching the manual, it seems that using XFIL can disable SHIFT. Maybe I accidentally hit XFIL. But if I did, how do I go back to normal? When I rotate the WIDTH control, my filters are sequenced in and out as expected. > > No CAT is currently connected. > > At least it?s not fatal, but it would be nice to get the function back before Saturday. > > 73/TU, > > Nick, WA5BDU > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2vco.vic at gmail.com From kd6qzx at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 22 14:05:49 2016 From: kd6qzx at sbcglobal.net (Scott Bastian) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 18:05:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] GEMS Products SIDE KX delays. References: <1847101482.2566197.1466618749774.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1847101482.2566197.1466618749774.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Andy, ?and others regarding the delays in the SIDE KX products for the KX3/PX3 covers. ? I am Scott of GEMS Products. ? ?Most of you have been keeping up with my web page updates. ?Here is a quick summary: My plastic fabricator was a very talented one man shop and in May of 2015 he contracted Tuberculosis and was hospitalized in grave condition. ?This put me into a temporary back order as I awaited his recovery. ?But the Health Department came into his shop and quarantined it for 120 days and I was not able to get even my molds out of his shop. ?Now it is Sep my fabricator is still unable to return to work, but I get the molds out to a total of 4 shops each of which were unable to produce parts for a reasonable cost. ?During this time I had begun to move my parts over to injection molding. ?I employed a new fabricator and he built a mold and it took several revisions that did not produce a good part. ?Taking my project on a dual track and multiple shops cost 4 months and several thousand dollars. ?Now it is late January and I have a viable injection molder who has taken on the project for KX3 and PX3 covers. To create a mold is a 6 week process in the mill and to get it polished out before the first prototype part is made. ?Ithen ?have to do a modification for fitment issues. back in the mill and polishing for another 4 week time penalty. ?Just last week I was able to approve the mold and have it shipped to me. ?I am awaiting its delivery in the next 7 or so days. ? So during this tie I have made many web updates to keep folks uptodate. ?I have a significant back order on parts and my customers have been nothing short of amazing with their patience. ?I thank each of them for this. Please hang in there the mold is about here and the parts will be made just as soon as I take delivery and can get it set up and running. ?The beauty of ?injection molding is the speed at which parts can be made. As they come off the machine and are inspected ?will be printing shipping labels and getting parts out to you.? 73 Scott AK6Q? From kd6qzx at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 22 14:07:48 2016 From: kd6qzx at sbcglobal.net (KD6QZX) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 11:07:48 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Question on if folks have any experience with GemProducts KX3 Vendor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1970196639.2524164.1466618671378.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Andy, ?and others regarding the delays in the SIDE KX products for the KX3/PX3 covers. ? I am Scott of GEMS Products. ? ?Most of you have been keeping up with my web page updates. ?Here is a quick summary: My plastic fabricator was a very talented one man shop and in May of 2015 he contracted Tuberculosis and was hospitalized in grave condition. ?This put me into a temporary back order as I awaited his recovery. ?But the Health Department came into his shop and quarantined it for 120 days and I was not able to get even my molds out of his shop. ?Now it is Sep my fabricator is still unable to return to work, but I get the molds out to a total of 4 shops each of which were unable to produce parts for a reasonable cost. ?During this time I had begun to move my parts over to injection molding. ?I employed a new fabricator and he built a mold and it took several revisions that did not produce a good part. ?Taking my project on a dual track and multiple shops cost 4 months and several thousand dollars. ?Now it is late January and I have a viable injection molder who has taken on the project for KX3 and PX3 covers. To create a mold is a 6 week process in the mill and to get it polished out before the first prototype part is made. ?Ithen ?have to do a modification for fitment issues. back in the mill and polishing for another 4 week time penalty. ?Just last week I was able to approve the mold and have it shipped to me. ?I am awaiting its delivery in the next 7 or so days. ? So during this tie I have made many web updates to keep folks uptodate. ?I have a significant back order on parts and my customers have been nothing short of amazing with their patience. ?I thank each of them for this. Please hang in there the mold is about here and the parts will be made just as soon as I take delivery and can get it set up and running. ?The beauty of ?injection molding is the speed at which parts can be made. As they come off the machine and are inspected ?will be printing shipping labels and getting parts out to you.? 73 Scott AK6Q? On Wednesday, June 22, 2016 9:43 AM, Andy Mrozek [via Elecraft] wrote: Hi List, About 8 months ago I ordered the protective case accessory from Gemproducts off of his website. He originally had some production issues and was communicating well on his website about it. I have emailed recently and still haven't received the paid for in full product I was wondering if anyone else is in this situation and how you resolved it . It looks like a great product , but I am not sure why it takes 8 months + with full payment. Here is the products www site - http://gemsproducts.com/KX3.html Thanks , Andy ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Question-on-if-folks-have-any-experience-with-GemProducts-KX3-Vendor-tp7619163.html To unsubscribe from Elecraft, click here. NAML ----- K3 #348 KX3 #2499 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Question-on-if-folks-have-any-experience-with-GemProducts-KX3-Vendor-tp7619163p7619167.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From tomb18 at videotron.ca Wed Jun 22 14:08:55 2016 From: tomb18 at videotron.ca (Tom) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 14:08:55 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Does one receive an email when an order is placed? Message-ID: The reason I ask is that early this month I ordered a bunch of stuff and I remember seeing the web page confirmation but I do not seem to have any email. Does one get sent? Thanks, Tom va2fsq.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From hhoyt at mebtel.net Wed Jun 22 14:28:45 2016 From: hhoyt at mebtel.net (Howard Hoyt) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 14:28:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 146, Issue 32 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all, GEMS Products is a great company to do business with, but I spoke with them at Dayton, and over the last months they have had a big problem with plastic vendors which has delayed production of the plastic covers. If any of you have ever had to find a vendor who does quality work on a complex part in small quantities for a good price, you can appreciate what GEMS has had to go through to get a replacement vendor. Finding a vendor for big quantities, high prices or low quality is no problem... Ask me how I know... Howie - WA4PSC On 6/22/2016 1:53 PM, elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net wrote: > Re: [Elecraft] Question on if folks have any experience with > GemProducts KX3 Vendor From K1ND at comcast.net Wed Jun 22 14:35:30 2016 From: K1ND at comcast.net (Jan) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 14:35:30 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Subject: Re: KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? Message-ID: <7aa62772-0253-2279-48a4-c97f086d47f5@comcast.net> We each have different expectations, I enjoy both SSB and CW, run QRP most of the time after 60 years in the hobby About 8 years ago I had the RM HLA-300 for use with the K2; soon resold it, the K2 is yet here, since 1999 (a) The three fans on top of the HLA-300 were a noisy distraction (b) Reports of distortion were received IF driven to more than a 100 watts output (c) the newer HLA-305 might be better, but yet uses fans for cooling Three years ago bought the KX3 and added the KXPA100/AT a year ago ~ it helps on SSB; for CW I like the barefoot QRP Also have the Hardrock-50/AT and it works well with my ELAD QRP transceiver My wire dipole is fed with 10cm spaced open-wire and use the Johnson Match-Box for the coupling of the RF energy Cheers, Jan K1ND From tomb18 at videotron.ca Wed Jun 22 14:52:26 2016 From: tomb18 at videotron.ca (Tom) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 14:52:26 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Does one receive an email when an order is placed? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <80A1B753AF0343B4869AF5595A557294@tomsPC> Hi, Well it seems that the order I placed never made it into the Elecraft computers. So KX2 support will be at least 4 weeks out for Win4K3. Off to place the order again. And no, emails are only sent when shipped. 73 -----Original Message----- From: Tom Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 2:08 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Does one receive an email when an order is placed? The reason I ask is that early this month I ordered a bunch of stuff and I remember seeing the web page confirmation but I do not seem to have any email. Does one get sent? Thanks, Tom va2fsq.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tomb18 at videotron.ca --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From K2TK at att.net Wed Jun 22 14:55:22 2016 From: K2TK at att.net (Bob) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 14:55:22 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Does one receive an email when an order is placed? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Tom, Last order placed was for K-Pod on April 17th and I did. As far as I remember always did in the past too. 73, Bob K2TK On 6/22/2016 2:08 PM, Tom wrote: > The reason I ask is that early this month I ordered a bunch of stuff and I remember seeing the web page confirmation but I do not seem to have any email. Does one get sent? > Thanks, Tom > va2fsq.com > > From tomb18 at videotron.ca Wed Jun 22 15:06:26 2016 From: tomb18 at videotron.ca (Tom) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 15:06:26 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Does one receive an email when an order is placed? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9702BE942061469A83FB89336A77B7AF@tomsPC> Well lo and behold. This time I received an email confirmation. I do not have one from when I placed the order a few weeks ago. Funny, Ron in sales says they do NOT send an email confirmation. 73 -----Original Message----- From: Bob Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 2:55 PM To: Tom ; Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Does one receive an email when an order is placed? Hi Tom, Last order placed was for K-Pod on April 17th and I did. As far as I remember always did in the past too. 73, Bob K2TK On 6/22/2016 2:08 PM, Tom wrote: > The reason I ask is that early this month I ordered a bunch of stuff and I > remember seeing the web page confirmation but I do not seem to have any > email. Does one get sent? > Thanks, Tom > va2fsq.com > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From jcurneal at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 15:09:05 2016 From: jcurneal at gmail.com (Joel Curneal) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 15:09:05 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Does one receive an email when an order is placed? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have placed several orders with Elecraft in the past year (the latest for a KX2 placed on May 23) and have always received an automatic email response shortly after placing the order. Joel - N1JEO On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Bob wrote: > Hi Tom, > > Last order placed was for K-Pod on April 17th and I did. As > far as I remember always did in the past too. > > 73, > > Bob > > K2TK > > > > On 6/22/2016 2:08 PM, Tom wrote: > >> The reason I ask is that early this month I ordered a bunch of stuff and >> I remember seeing the web page confirmation but I do not seem to have any >> email. Does one get sent? >> Thanks, Tom >> va2fsq.com >> >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jcurneal at gmail.com > From kevin at k4vd.net Wed Jun 22 15:32:55 2016 From: kevin at k4vd.net (Kevin - K4VD) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 15:32:55 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Does one receive an email when an order is placed? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I purchased my KX3 recently and didn't receive a confirmation until I asked about it here. I do kind of expect an order acknowledgement if not immediately (the computer age) at least by the next business day. If not, I get a little concerned. This is only because I've been spoiled by the quick "Thank you for your order!" email from the likes of Amazon and the local pizza delivery shop. Now everyone who sells me something needs to be just like them. Kev / K4VD On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Joel Curneal wrote: > I have placed several orders with Elecraft in the past year (the latest > for a KX2 placed on May 23) and have always received an automatic email > response shortly after placing the order. > > Joel - N1JEO > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Bob wrote: > > > Hi Tom, > > > > Last order placed was for K-Pod on April 17th and I did. As > > far as I remember always did in the past too. > > > > 73, > > > > Bob > > > > K2TK > > > > > > > > On 6/22/2016 2:08 PM, Tom wrote: > > > >> The reason I ask is that early this month I ordered a bunch of stuff and > >> I remember seeing the web page confirmation but I do not seem to have > any > >> email. Does one get sent? > >> Thanks, Tom > >> va2fsq.com > >> > >> > >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to jcurneal at gmail.com > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevin at k4vd.net > From cautery at montac.com Wed Jun 22 16:04:16 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 15:04:16 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] GEMS Products SIDE KX delays. In-Reply-To: <1847101482.2566197.1466618749774.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1847101482.2566197.1466618749774.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1847101482.2566197.1466618749774.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9851481e-8c32-a117-6901-14d0fbeb8caa@montac.com> Not a customer... yet. But I wanted to take a moment to thank you for posting this status update to your production issues. Happy to see you are close to getting back into production, again. God Bless and 73s, ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 6/22/2016 1:05 PM, Scott Bastian wrote: > Andy, and others regarding the delays in the SIDE KX products for the KX3/PX3 covers. I am Scott of GEMS Products. > Most of you have been keeping up with my web page updates. Here is a quick summary: > My plastic fabricator was a very talented one man shop and in May of 2015 he contracted Tuberculosis and was hospitalized in grave condition. This put me into a temporary back order as I awaited his recovery. But the Health Department came into his shop and quarantined it for 120 days and I was not able to get even my molds out of his shop. Now it is Sep my fabricator is still unable to return to work, but I get the molds out to a total of 4 shops each of which were unable to produce parts for a reasonable cost. During this time I had begun to move my parts over to injection molding. I employed a new fabricator and he built a mold and it took several revisions that did not produce a good part. Taking my project on a dual track and multiple shops cost 4 months and several thousand dollars. Now it is late January and I have a viable injection molder who has taken on the project for KX3 and PX3 covers. To create a mold is a 6 week process in the mill and to get it polished out before the first prototype part is made. Ithen have to do a modification for fitment issues. back in the mill and polishing for another 4 week time penalty. Just last week I was able to approve the mold and have it shipped to me. I am awaiting its delivery in the next 7 or so days. > So during this tie I have made many web updates to keep folks uptodate. I have a significant back order on parts and my customers have been nothing short of amazing with their patience. I thank each of them for this. > Please hang in there the mold is about here and the parts will be made just as soon as I take delivery and can get it set up and running. The beauty of injection molding is the speed at which parts can be made. As they come off the machine and are inspected will be printing shipping labels and getting parts out to you. > 73 Scott AK6Q From brian.waterworth at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 16:29:54 2016 From: brian.waterworth at gmail.com (Brian Waterworth) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 16:29:54 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] GEMS Products SIDE KX delays. In-Reply-To: <9851481e-8c32-a117-6901-14d0fbeb8caa@montac.com> References: <1847101482.2566197.1466618749774.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1847101482.2566197.1466618749774.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <9851481e-8c32-a117-6901-14d0fbeb8caa@montac.com> Message-ID: I am a customer and it is worth the wait. Thanks Scott for being so transparent. regards, Brian VE3IBW (KX3/PX3 Side KX and Cover Owner) On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Clay Autery wrote: > Not a customer... yet. But I wanted to take a moment to thank you for > posting this status update to your production issues. Happy to see you > are close to getting back into production, again. > > God Bless and 73s, > > ______________________ > Clay Autery, KY5G > MONTAC Enterprises > (318) 518-1389 > > On 6/22/2016 1:05 PM, Scott Bastian wrote: > > Andy, and others regarding the delays in the SIDE KX products for the > KX3/PX3 covers. I am Scott of GEMS Products. > > Most of you have been keeping up with my web page updates. Here is a > quick summary: > > My plastic fabricator was a very talented one man shop and in May of > 2015 he contracted Tuberculosis and was hospitalized in grave condition. > This put me into a temporary back order as I awaited his recovery. But the > Health Department came into his shop and quarantined it for 120 days and I > was not able to get even my molds out of his shop. Now it is Sep my > fabricator is still unable to return to work, but I get the molds out to a > total of 4 shops each of which were unable to produce parts for a > reasonable cost. During this time I had begun to move my parts over to > injection molding. I employed a new fabricator and he built a mold and it > took several revisions that did not produce a good part. Taking my project > on a dual track and multiple shops cost 4 months and several thousand > dollars. Now it is late January and I have a viable injection molder who > has taken on the project for KX3 and PX3 covers. To create a mold is a 6 > week process in the mill and to get it polis > hed out before the first prototype part is made. Ithen have to do a > modification for fitment issues. back in the mill and polishing for another > 4 week time penalty. Just last week I was able to approve the mold and > have it shipped to me. I am awaiting its delivery in the next 7 or so days. > > So during this tie I have made many web updates to keep folks uptodate. > I have a significant back order on parts and my customers have been nothing > short of amazing with their patience. I thank each of them for this. > > Please hang in there the mold is about here and the parts will be made > just as soon as I take delivery and can get it set up and running. The > beauty of injection molding is the speed at which parts can be made. As > they come off the machine and are inspected will be printing shipping > labels and getting parts out to you. > > 73 Scott AK6Q > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to brian.waterworth at gmail.com > From ak7db at cox.net Wed Jun 22 16:43:50 2016 From: ak7db at cox.net (Dave Blankenburg) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 13:43:50 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Gem products In-Reply-To: <9u641t02n45oxQM01u6AFc> References: <9u641t02n45oxQM01u6AFc> Message-ID: <28770777-D939-414C-837D-B755473B041A@cox.net> Based on information on his website and various emails I've received his product will be in production in the next few weeks. He had to switch to injection molding and get a mold made which added to the delay. Dave, AK7DB Sent from my Semi-Smart phone > On Jun 22, 2016, at 10:53 AM, elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net wrote: > > Send Elecraft mailing list submissions to > elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > elecraft-owner at mailman.qth.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Elecraft digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Elecraft] RFI on K3s (riese-k3djc at juno.com) > 2. KX3 speaker (Fred Moore) > 3. K3-100 For Sale (Palmer Byrne) > 4. Re: Elecraft] RFI on K3s (Jim Brown) > 5. OT: Drop by an Elmer's garage for a virtual chat (Wayne Burdick) > 6. Re: OT - FCC Seeks "Noise Floor" (Fred Jensen) > 7. Re: Headset (Jim Rhodes) > 8. KXPA100 (Steve Hall) > 9. Re: Headset (Walter Underwood) > 10. Re: Elecraft] RFI on K3s (Walter Underwood) > 11. Re: Elecraft] RFI on K3s (Jim Brown) > 12. Re: KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? (a45wg) > 13. Re: Elecraft] RFI on K3s (Clay Autery) > 14. Re: KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? (Bob Nielsen) > 15. Re: RFI on K3s (Edward R Cole) > 16. KX3 KCOMM & CW Skimmer (Peter D. Vouvounas) > 17. Re: Headset (Ian White) > 18. K3 [FS] VK (Glen Torr) > 19. Re: RFI on K3s (Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft) > 20. Re: KX3 KCOMM & CW Skimmer (Stephen Shearer) > 21. K3 'SHIFT' not functional (Nick Kennedy) > 22. Kady K3 Book available (Dubinse at aol.com) > 23. Re: OT KX2/KX3 Logging Program Q (Jim Rodenkirch) > Send Elecraft mailing list submissions to > elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > elecraft-owner at mailman.qth.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Elecraft digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Elecraft] RFI on K3s (riese-k3djc at juno.com) > 2. KX3 speaker (Fred Moore) > 3. K3-100 For Sale (Palmer Byrne) > 4. Re: Elecraft] RFI on K3s (Jim Brown) > 5. OT: Drop by an Elmer's garage for a virtual chat (Wayne Burdick) > 6. Re: OT - FCC Seeks "Noise Floor" (Fred Jensen) > 7. Re: Headset (Jim Rhodes) > 8. KXPA100 (Steve Hall) > 9. Re: Headset (Walter Underwood) > 10. Re: Elecraft] RFI on K3s (Walter Underwood) > 11. Re: Elecraft] RFI on K3s (Jim Brown) > 12. Re: KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? (a45wg) > 13. Re: Elecraft] RFI on K3s (Clay Autery) > 14. Re: KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? (Bob Nielsen) > 15. Re: RFI on K3s (Edward R Cole) > 16. KX3 KCOMM & CW Skimmer (Peter D. Vouvounas) > 17. Re: Headset (Ian White) > 18. K3 [FS] VK (Glen Torr) > 19. Re: RFI on K3s (Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft) > 20. Re: KX3 KCOMM & CW Skimmer (Stephen Shearer) > 21. K3 'SHIFT' not functional (Nick Kennedy) > 22. Kady K3 Book available (Dubinse at aol.com) > 23. Re: OT KX2/KX3 Logging Program Q (Jim Rodenkirch) > 24. Re: K3 'SHIFT' not functional (Clay Autery) > 25. KX3 LEDs (Kevin - K4VD) > 26. Re: KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? (Drew AF2Z) > 27. Re: KX3 LEDs (John Pitz) > 28. Question on if folks have any experience with GemProducts KX3 > Vendor (Andy Mrozek) > 29. Re: Question on if folks have any experience with GemProducts > KX3 Vendor (Robert Nobis) > 30. K3 - KIO3 and USB to serial problems (Sean Cavanaugh) > 31. Re: K3 'SHIFT' not functional (Vic Rosenthal) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 18:05:28 -0400 > From: > To: ghyoungman at gmail.com > Cc: w4sc at windstream.net,Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft] RFI on K3s > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > its silver plated > > Bob K3DJC > On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 16:43:44 -0500 Grant Youngman > writes: >> I'm still wondering why anyone would BUY a bit of 10 ga twisted pair. >> It blows the mind. >> >> To each his own I suppose .... but really? >> >> On the other hand, I do know one or two hams who will stare at a >> pair of RCA plugs and a bit of wire with a deer-in-the-headlights >> look in their eyes and then drive to RS to buy a cable. >> >> smh ... >> >> Grant NQ5T >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 21, 2016, at 3:51 PM, w4sc wrote: >>> >>> Some one ask for this........ >>> >>> On ePay: >>> >>> >> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-feet-10-AWG-Shielded-Twisted-Pair-Silver-Plate > d-Cable-speaker-wire-37-strands-/381493258989?hash=item58d2c52aed:g:2YEAA > OSwTapV4jU~ >>> >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to riese-k3djc at juno.com >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 18:26:04 -0400 > From: Fred Moore > To: Elecraft List > Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 speaker > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Does anyone make an amplified speaker that closely matches the look and > size of the KX3 that sounds good. Any recommendations.. thanks in > advance.. Fred > > > -- > Fred Moore > email: fred at fmeco.com > fred at safes.com > phone: 321-217-8699 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 18:01:11 -0500 > From: Palmer Byrne > To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] K3-100 For Sale > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I am turning 83 this year and am down sizing my equipment and selling my > beloved K3. It is in excellent condition; only one non-smoking owner. > Just back from Elecraft after complete checkup and alignment. Factory > Repair Report included. Radio includes: 100 watt amplifier KAT3A > Automatic antenna tuner, K144XV Internal 2M 10w module and K144RFLK > K144XV Reference Lock Board. In addition to the standard 2.7khz 5 pole > filter it includes: InRad 700 700Hz, 8 pole filter, KFL3A-1.8K-F 1.8kHz, > 8-pole filter KFL3A-6K 6khz AM/ESSB 8 pole filter, and the KFL3A-FM > 13khz AM/FM 8 pole filter. K3EXREF Ext. Frequency Reference Input, KXV3B > RX Ant, 2nd Pre-Amp, IF Out and Xverter Interface upgrade, KSYN3A > Synthesizer upgrade, Neogrip VFO A knob and Stainless Steel Kit. All > updates performed. Factory calibrated to meet or exceed factory specs. > Factory shipping container. $2595 shipped & insured CONUS. Prefer > PayPal. 870-425-4257. > > 73 > Palmer Byrne > W7NMD > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 16:18:33 -0700 > From: Jim Brown > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft] RFI on K3s > Message-ID: > <969f8a5e-1e15-b789-f240-c4bc48e3cb0f at audiosystemsgroup.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > >> On Tue,6/21/2016 3:05 PM, riese-k3djc at juno.com wrote: >> its silver plated > > Which, contrary to the hype from ripoff artists in the high futility > world will try to tell you, offers NO performance benefit over POC > (plain, ordinary copper) in even the most esoteric of audio systems. > > There's a classic AES Paper from the '70s by E.E. Prof R. A. Greiner > (now emeritus) who was at Univ of Wis at Madison showing conclusively > that exotic loudspeaker cables are a complete waste of money, and the > only thing that matters for real world loudspeakers is low DC > resistance. In other words, short, fat copper. The thing it affects is > "damping factor" -- that is, the ability of the very low Z output stage > to damp a floppy woofer. Damping factor is, by definition, the Z of the > loudspeaker divided by the sum of the output Z of the amplifier plus the > resistance of the cable, and it's low frequencies we're talking about, > so it's DCR. > There's a classic AES Paper from the '70s by E.E. Prof R. A. Greiner > (now emeritus) who was at Univ of Wis at Madison showing conclusively > that exotic loudspeaker cables are a complete waste of money, and the > only thing that matters for real world loudspeakers is low DC > resistance. In other words, short, fat copper. The thing it affects is > "damping factor" -- that is, the ability of the very low Z output stage > to damp a floppy woofer. Damping factor is, by definition, the Z of the > loudspeaker divided by the sum of the output Z of the amplifier plus the > resistance of the cable, and it's low frequencies we're talking about, > so it's DCR. > > There's a classic AES Paper from the '70s by E.E. Prof R. A. Greiner > (now emeritus) who was at Univ of Wis at Madison showing conclusively > that exotic loudspeaker cables are a complete waste of money, and the > only thing that matters for real world loudspeakers is low DC > resistance. In other words, short, fat copper. > > The thing it affects is "damping factor" -- that is, the ability of the > very low Z output stage to damp a floppy woofer. Damping factor is, by > definition, the Z of the loudspeaker divided by the sum of the output Z > of the amplifier plus the resistance of the cable, and it's low > frequencies we're talking about, so it's DCR. > > The laws of physics have not changed since the '70s. :) > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 16:56:52 -0700 > From: Wayne Burdick > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Drop by an Elmer's garage for a virtual chat > Message-ID: <4B34A9FA-01AC-4A80-9FC9-892E0D9C3AD0 at elecraft.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi all, > > My friend 4Z1UG (Eric), who created the QSO Today podcast, has added a "virtual Elmer's garage" feature, a.k.a. The QSO Today Community. He's already signed up a collection of very experienced hams to open up their "garages" for casual drop-bys. See: > > http://www.qsotodaycommunity.com/ > > Just like its brick 'n' mortar neighborhood counterpart, it's a friendly place where you can poke your head in, check out the station, and ask a question on any subject you like. It's totally low-key. > > No, you can't borrow a ladder. But you can certainly ask what the heck ladder-line is :) > > Enjoy-- > > Wayne > N6KR > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 17:06:00 -0700 > From: Fred Jensen > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - FCC Seeks "Noise Floor" > Message-ID: <5882bb25-e972-f291-6925-caff3e986a7c at foothill.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Well actually, not quite. Incidental radiators are the noisemakers such > a power lines arcing. They radiate RF but have no need to. They also > do it across broad frequency ranges over several tens of MHz. > > Unintentional radiators are computers, wall warts and SMPS, plasma TV's, > and the like. They generate RF internally for their operation, but do > not intend to radiate it. Alas, thanks to James Maxwell, they do. > > Intentional radiators are those unlicensed devices that must radiate RF > to function ... WiFi, Bluetooth, cell phones, etc. They tend to be > confined to certain bands [usually ISM bands like 2.4 GHz]. Many are > spread-spectrum types of signals, and in a narrow receive BW just raise > the noise floor a bit. > > Some intentional radiators are in other than ISM bands. 443.93 MHz, > familiar to most hams, is full of beeps, squawks, and other very short > bursts. They're remote reading thermometers, and other sensors. Some > RFID equipment operates on that and a few other frequencies which can be > a problem for hams near ports, large rail yards, and intermodal yards. > Pacific Gas and Electric remote-reading meters are said to be around 500 > MHz in a mesh network of some sort. > > The TAC in the original link points out that quantitative data on the > noise floor is sparse at best and very hard to obtain and analyze since > it depends on so many factors in an almost infinite number of locations. > > As to FCC enforcement or the lack of it, in the 50's the Commission was > very active in enforcement ... especially if it affected commercial > communications. Today, the FCC is very much more a "Coordinator of > Communications" than an enforcement agency. > > I've concluded that, "It is what it is," and there aren't many ways to > quantify noise floor for a finite amount of investment dollars. > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > - Northern California Contest Club > - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 > - www.cqp.org > >> On 6/21/2016 10:39 AM, Barry LaZar wrote: >> David, >> This is interesting. But, how does it relate to the regulations >> already on the books having to do with incidental radiation? That's the >> regulation set that controls conducted and radiated noise from >> powerlines, TV, computers, etc. >> >> 73, >> Barry >> K3NDM > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 19:19:37 -0500 > From: Jim Rhodes > To: Ken Arck > Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Headset > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I wore out one SB-40 over 15 to 20 years, so I bought another one. Get > good audio reports on the rare instances I get on phone. >> On Jun 21, 2016 3:12 PM, "Ken Arck" wrote: >> >> I have a set of KOSS SB 40's and they're great on the RX side but the >> cheap dynamic mic that comes as part of it sounds like @#*^%#@ on TX, >> regardless of how I've tried to compensate using the EQ >> >> Ken >> >> >> >> >> >> At 10:27 AM 5/26/2016, Dave Hachadorian wrote: >> >>> I forgot to mention that the SB-45 also has a nice padded headband. It >>> doesn't irritate the top of my bald head as much as the rough webbing of >>> the CM500. Judging from the pictures of the crowds at Dayton this year, >>> this could be a very significant feature for a lot of hams! >>> >>> Dave Hachadorian, K6LL >>> Yuma, AZ >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Mike Harris >>> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 7:14 AM >>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> Subject: [Elecraft] Headset >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> If I remember correctly the Koss SB45 headset has been offered as a >>> suitable substitute for the K3 weapon of choice the Yamaha CM500. Any >>> experience out there? >>> >>> My much used CM500 are starting to shed the leatherette covering and the >>> foam inside the cavities is wearing away. CM500 can be rather difficult >>> to source. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Mike VP8NO >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to k6ll.dave at gmail.com >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to ken at arcomcontrollers.com >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> President and CTO - Arcom Communications >> Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. >> http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ >> Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and >> we offer complete repeater packages! >> AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 >> http://www.irlp.net >> "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to jimk0xu at gmail.com >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 20:26:50 -0400 > From: Steve Hall <99sunset at gmail.com> > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100 > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > The KPA500 is a great amp. With 15 Watts in (as an example of a KX3), I am > measuring 375 Watts out. > WM6P > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 17:33:52 -0700 > From: Walter Underwood > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Headset > Message-ID: <10F1D7EE-28FC-41A9-B762-60E42D8ED717 at wunderwood.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Reports on the list favor the Yamaha CM-500 or the Koss SB-45. Both have electret mics. In this price range (under a few hundred dollars), an electret mic is by far the best option. > > The Koss SB-40 has a dynamic mic. I haven?t tried it, but making a good dynamic mic at that price is a huge engineering challenge. > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > >> On Jun 21, 2016, at 5:19 PM, Jim Rhodes wrote: >> >> I wore out one SB-40 over 15 to 20 years, so I bought another one. Get >> good audio reports on the rare instances I get on phone. >>> On Jun 21, 2016 3:12 PM, "Ken Arck" wrote: >>> >>> I have a set of KOSS SB 40's and they're great on the RX side but the >>> cheap dynamic mic that comes as part of it sounds like @#*^%#@ on TX, >>> regardless of how I've tried to compensate using the EQ >>> >>> Ken >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> At 10:27 AM 5/26/2016, Dave Hachadorian wrote: >>> >>>> I forgot to mention that the SB-45 also has a nice padded headband. It >>>> doesn't irritate the top of my bald head as much as the rough webbing of >>>> the CM500. Judging from the pictures of the crowds at Dayton this year, >>>> this could be a very significant feature for a lot of hams! >>>> >>>> Dave Hachadorian, K6LL >>>> Yuma, AZ >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Mike Harris >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 7:14 AM >>>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> Subject: [Elecraft] Headset >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> If I remember correctly the Koss SB45 headset has been offered as a >>>> suitable substitute for the K3 weapon of choice the Yamaha CM500. Any >>>> experience out there? >>>> >>>> My much used CM500 are starting to shed the leatherette covering and the >>>> foam inside the cavities is wearing away. CM500 can be rather difficult >>>> to source. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Mike VP8NO >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to k6ll.dave at gmail.com >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to ken at arcomcontrollers.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> President and CTO - Arcom Communications >>> Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. >>> http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ >>> Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and >>> we offer complete repeater packages! >>> AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 >>> http://www.irlp.net >>> "We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!" >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to jimk0xu at gmail.com >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 17:41:45 -0700 > From: Walter Underwood > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft] RFI on K3s > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > But thanks to the skin effect, silver plated power cables should conduct RFI energy BETTER than regular copper cables. > > I wasn?t going to respond again, but I?m weak. Eric should be invoking the ?damping factor? on this thread soon. > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > >> On Jun 21, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Jim Brown wrote: >> >> On Tue,6/21/2016 3:05 PM, riese-k3djc at juno.com wrote: >>> its silver plated >> >> Which, contrary to the hype from ripoff artists in the high futility world will try to tell you, offers NO performance benefit over POC (plain, ordinary copper) in even the most esoteric of audio systems. >> >> There's a classic AES Paper from the '70s by E.E. Prof R. A. Greiner (now emeritus) who was at Univ of Wis at Madison showing conclusively that exotic loudspeaker cables are a complete waste of money, and the only thing that matters for real world loudspeakers is low DC resistance. In other words, short, fat copper. The thing it affects is "damping factor" -- that is, the ability of the very low Z output stage to damp a floppy woofer. Damping factor is, by definition, the Z of the loudspeaker divided by the sum of the output Z of the amplifier plus the resistance of the cable, and it's low frequencies we're talking about, so it's DCR. >> There's a classic AES Paper from the '70s by E.E. Prof R. A. Greiner (now emeritus) who was at Univ of Wis at Madison showing conclusively that exotic loudspeaker cables are a complete waste of money, and the only thing that matters for real world loudspeakers is low DC resistance. In other words, short, fat copper. The thing it affects is "damping factor" -- that is, the ability of the very low Z output stage to damp a floppy woofer. Damping factor is, by definition, the Z of the loudspeaker divided by the sum of the output Z of the amplifier plus the resistance of the cable, and it's low frequencies we're talking about, so it's DCR. >> >> There's a classic AES Paper from the '70s by E.E. Prof R. A. Greiner (now emeritus) who was at Univ of Wis at Madison showing conclusively that exotic loudspeaker cables are a complete waste of money, and the only thing that matters for real world loudspeakers is low DC resistance. In other words, short, fat copper. >> >> The thing it affects is "damping factor" -- that is, the ability of the very low Z output stage to damp a floppy woofer. Damping factor is, by definition, the Z of the loudspeaker divided by the sum of the output Z of the amplifier plus the resistance of the cable, and it's low frequencies we're talking about, so it's DCR. >> >> The laws of physics have not changed since the '70s. :) >> >> 73, Jim K9YC >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 18:17:19 -0700 > From: Jim Brown > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft] RFI on K3s > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > >> On Tue,6/21/2016 5:41 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: >> But thanks to the skin effect, silver plated power cables should conduct RFI energy BETTER than regular copper cables. > > Yes, but those silver plated cables are being touted for for > loudspeakers, where, as I noted in an earlier post, cable resistance > matters at LOW audio frequencies (200 Hz and below). And the application > we're talking about here is for DC power. In both applications, there is > NO skin effect. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 06:46:28 +0400 > From: a45wg > To: Road Runner > Cc: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? > Message-ID: <728574E1-5056-4826-A317-6F6B5ECCEF9A at sy-edm.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Using 15 W out from my K3-S (Max power for your KX3 as you indicated) my KPA500 pushes out 330 Watts ? Why bother with 100W when you can have 330 ?? There is however a difference in purchase price $2k vs $800 (aprox) - and if you need a tuner that will be another $700. > > Sorry to say I kept the KX3 for mobile/QRP and just got a K3S, KAT500 and KPA500. > > Enjoy your dilemma > > Tim > > > >> On 21 Jun 2016, at 21:08, Road Runner wrote: >> >> Have had my KX3 for a couple of weeks and love it. Biggest issue I have is even at 15 watts, unless conditions are right, I am having issues making DX contacts. The KX3 is connected to an Alpha Delta 80-6 meter fan dipole. I have been thinking about getting the KXPA 100 but wonder whether it will be enough of a bang for the buck. I use this at a summer cottage, at home I started with a Kenwood Ts-590SG and eventually upgraded the rig with an Ameritron 811H to get more punch. I have no problems getting picked out of pileup so now... >> So my question is for those of you that have gone the upgrade path to KXPA100... Did you get enough punch or are you wishing you had gone with more power? I am not really too crazy about going all the way to the KPA500... >> >> Sent from my iPad >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to a45wg at sy-edm.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 21:54:41 -0500 > From: Clay Autery > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft] RFI on K3s > Message-ID: <949b4816-2946-6abd-ce80-3d7ab5f265fc at montac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > It IS really nice cable though... Used that type and multi-conductor of > same spec to wire helicopters when I was a Aviation MTP... Beautiful stuff. > > ______________________ > Clay Autery, KY5G > MONTAC Enterprises > (318) 518-1389 > >> On 6/21/2016 4:43 PM, Grant Youngman wrote: >> I'm still wondering why anyone would BUY a bit of 10 ga twisted pair. It blows the mind. >> >> To each his own I suppose .... but really? >> >> On the other hand, I do know one or two hams who will stare at a pair of RCA plugs and a bit of wire with a deer-in-the-headlights look in their eyes and then drive to RS to buy a cable. >> >> smh ... >> >> Grant NQ5T >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 20:05:48 -0700 > From: Bob Nielsen > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Has anyone tried using a RM Italy HLA 305 or 305V with a K2, KX2, K3 or > KX3? The review in QST a few months ago was positive. Over 200 watts > out for less than $700 (not counting an antenna tuner). > > Bob, N7XY > >> On 6/21/16 7:46 PM, a45wg wrote: >> Using 15 W out from my K3-S (Max power for your KX3 as you indicated) my KPA500 pushes out 330 Watts ? Why bother with 100W when you can have 330 ?? There is however a difference in purchase price $2k vs $800 (aprox) - and if you need a tuner that will be another $700. >> >> Sorry to say I kept the KX3 for mobile/QRP and just got a K3S, KAT500 and KPA500. >> >> Enjoy your dilemma >> >> Tim >> >> >> >>> On 21 Jun 2016, at 21:08, Road Runner wrote: >>> >>> Have had my KX3 for a couple of weeks and love it. Biggest issue I have is even at 15 watts, unless conditions are right, I am having issues making DX contacts. The KX3 is connected to an Alpha Delta 80-6 meter fan dipole. I have been thinking about getting the KXPA 100 but wonder whether it will be enough of a bang for the buck. I use this at a summer cottage, at home I started with a Kenwood Ts-590SG and eventually upgraded the rig with an Ameritron 811H to get more punch. I have no problems getting picked out of pileup so now... >>> So my question is for those of you that have gone the upgrade path to KXPA100... Did you get enough punch or are you wishing you had gone with more power? I am not really too crazy about going all the way to the KPA500... >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to a45wg at sy-edm.com >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to n7xy at n7xy.net > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 21:48:08 -0800 > From: Edward R Cole > To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s > Message-ID: <201606220548.u5M5m9X9028621 at mail40c28.carrierzone.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > One can convert red/black zip wire pretty easily: zip wire separates > by pulling the red side away from the black so you end up with two > separate wires (you can even leave the power-pole connector on one > end). Then twist the two wires to obtain twisted-pair. No waste of > those existing power cables. > > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > "Kits made by KL7UW" > Dubus Mag business: > dubususa at gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 02:04:38 -0400 > From: "Peter D. Vouvounas" > To: > Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 KCOMM & CW Skimmer > Message-ID: <008c01d1cc4b$f64c3ce0$e2e4b6a0$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > If any of you are familiar with KComm using a KX3 & CW Skimmer I could use > ur help. Trying out several logging and control solutions prior to FD. > > > > I have not been able to get KComm to connect with Skimmer. Perhaps one or > more of you have more experience with this app and could provide some > insight. > > > > 73 > > > > PeterV WB3FSR > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 07:54:52 +0100 > From: "Ian White" > To: > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Headset > Message-ID: <005201d1cc52$ff46f540$fdd4dfc0$@co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> I have a set of KOSS SB 40's and they're great on the RX side but the >> cheap dynamic mic that comes as part of it sounds like @#*^%#@ > > But weren't we discussing the SB-forty-FIVE? > > The *electret* mic in the Koss SB-45 is excellent, and works very well > with the K3 for a wide range of different voices. For those who prefer a > lighter headset with on-ear earpieces, the Koss CS-100 gives equally > good results. > > Both the SB-45 and the CS-100 can be highly recommended. > > > 73 from Ian GM3SEK > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 17:56:09 +1000 > From: Glen Torr > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 [FS] VK > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi All, > > For sale, K SN 2680. > Includes:- > General Coverge RX > 700, 2.8K, 6.0 and 15K 8 pole filters. > 100 Watt > ATU > Upgraded DSP Board > SS screws > P3 SN 150 > K144XV internal 2 meter module. > Original owner, non smoker, little operating time. Built by professional > electronics technical officer. > > AUD $4,500 negotiable. > > prefer VK 1,2 or 3 but not a show stopper elsewhere. > > KX3 and KXPA 1000 are now favourites. > > Glen Torr, VK1FB > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 11:49:00 +0200 > From: Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft > To: Bill OMara via Elecraft > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFI on K3s > Message-ID: <741021C3-C140-46B0-A66D-5AEE49679BC7 at elecraft.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Let's end this recurring thread for now in the interest of relieving email topic overload for others :-) > > Its well exceeding our single OT posting limit and has a wealth of past posts on this topic in our nabble archives etc. > > 73, > Eric (a.k.a. Mr. Moderator) > elecraft.com > --- > Sent from my iPhone 6S > >> On Jun 22, 2016, at 7:48 AM, Edward R Cole wrote: >> >> One can convert red/black zip wire pretty easily: zip wire separates by pulling the red side away from the black so you end up with two separate wires (you can even leave the power-pole connector on one end). Then twist the two wires to obtain twisted-pair. No waste of those existing power cables. >> >> >> 73, Ed - KL7UW >> http://www.kl7uw.com >> "Kits made by KL7UW" >> Dubus Mag business: >> dubususa at gmail.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 20 > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 10:23:14 -0400 > From: Stephen Shearer > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 KCOMM & CW Skimmer > Message-ID: <51d8cbdc-69a8-c279-b56e-1cf1cfb8ee7e at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > I got away from KComm because it hasn't been updated since 2013. I > found fldigi to work better and is updated often. I will use N3FJP's > http://www.n3fjp.com/fieldday.html for FD. I use N1MM for other > contests, too. > > steve WB3LGC > > >> On 22-Jun-16 2:04 AM, Peter D. Vouvounas wrote: >> If any of you are familiar with KComm using a KX3 & CW Skimmer I could use >> ur help. Trying out several logging and control solutions prior to FD. >> >> >> >> I have not been able to get KComm to connect with Skimmer. Perhaps one or >> more of you have more experience with this app and could provide some >> insight. >> >> >> >> 73 >> >> >> >> PeterV WB3FSR >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to sm.shearer.01 at gmail.com >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 21 > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 09:39:13 -0500 > From: "Nick Kennedy" > To: > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 'SHIFT' not functional > Message-ID: <669FB3D07C4B4841B872B3A9AC54716A at blackmike> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi All, > > My K3?s ?SHIFT? control no longer shifts. It stays at the CW pitch frequency I?ve dialed up as indicated by ?FC *0.44?, for example, when I turn the knob. > > I had been setting up the rig for Field Day (taking out macros, etc.) when this occurred. > > This is happening in the CW mode. In fact, I just verified that SHIFT works normally in SSB and AM modes. The WIDTH control works normally as well. > > Searching the manual, it seems that using XFIL can disable SHIFT. Maybe I accidentally hit XFIL. But if I did, how do I go back to normal? When I rotate the WIDTH control, my filters are sequenced in and out as expected. > > No CAT is currently connected. > > At least it?s not fatal, but it would be nice to get the function back before Saturday. > > 73/TU, > > Nick, WA5BDU > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 22 > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 10:54:54 -0400 > From: Dubinse at aol.com > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Kady K3 Book available > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > When I got my K3 last year, I didn't realize that the deal included a copy > of Fred Kady's K3 book. I ordered a copy from Elecraft, but I was too late > in trying to cancel my order. Result is that I have a nice used copy > (residing on my clothes hamper covered with tear stains and candle wax) and a new > copy, in the original mailing box. I would like for it (the new copy) to > have a good home. I will be happy to trade for (a) a certain microphone > adapter cord ( IC-735 to JT270) for which I can supply pin-outs or (b) CW sked > with Alaska (first choice) or (Nebraska) including LOTW AND card no matter > how long it takes to prehend my puny sigs and lousy fist. Alternatively I > will pay attention to any other offer or request. Please reply to > _dubinse at aol.com_ (mailto:dubinse at aol.com) > VY TNX ES 73 de W3UEC (Steve Dubin) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 23 > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 08:18:24 -0700 (MST) > From: Jim Rodenkirch > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT KX2/KX3 Logging Program Q > Message-ID: <1466608704472-7619158.post at n2.nabble.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Easily done, Buddy...call me... > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/OT-KX2-KX3-Logging-Program-Q-tp7619117p7619158.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 24 > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 10:18:42 -0500 > From: Clay Autery > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 'SHIFT' not functional > Message-ID: <49f302da-b29e-ac07-b28c-7acd11e65175 at montac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > While you are on a band/mode/etc where the shift pot isn't working... > push and hold "shift", which is the "NORM" function which will reset > filtering to default... This may fix it. Just my SWAG. > > >> On 6/22/2016 9:39 AM, Nick Kennedy wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> My K3?s ?SHIFT? control no longer shifts. It stays at the CW pitch frequency I?ve dialed up as indicated by ?FC *0.44?, for example, when I turn the knob. >> >> I had been setting up the rig for Field Day (taking out macros, etc.) when this occurred. >> >> This is happening in the CW mode. In fact, I just verified that SHIFT works normally in SSB and AM modes. The WIDTH control works normally as well. >> >> Searching the manual, it seems that using XFIL can disable SHIFT. Maybe I accidentally hit XFIL. But if I did, how do I go back to normal? When I rotate the WIDTH control, my filters are sequenced in and out as expected. >> >> No CAT is currently connected. >> >> At least it?s not fatal, but it would be nice to get the function back before Saturday. >> >> 73/TU, >> >> Nick, WA5BDU >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to cautery at montac.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 25 > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 11:30:32 -0400 > From: Kevin - K4VD > To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 LEDs > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Does anyone else find the LEDs on the KX3 to be a little too bright? > Especially the green one. It seems the red and yellow are frosted/diffuse? > a little but the green one is blinding at the wrong angle. > > I have the LED BRT set to 1. Any chance of making position #1 even dimmer > in a future release? For now I just display PS voltage which keeps the > yellow lights off. Tape will work to cover them up too. But increasing the > range of the adjustment seems more elegant. > > 73, > Kevin K4VD > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 26 > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 11:38:52 -0400 > From: Drew AF2Z > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100- How impactful to making contacts? > Message-ID: <576AB10C.4010608 at af2z.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > I owned my K3/10 for a couple of years before installing the KPA3 > internal 100w amplifier. Prior to that I'd never had a ham rig that put > out more than 30 watts. I found the 100 watt upgrade to be quite > worthwhile and I've never regretted it. > > I've used 100 watts for a couple of years now, operating mostly CW. I'd > estimate the number of increased contacts to be quite a bit more than > the 45% figure someone else mentioned. This is based upon my multi year > participation in monthly club sprints at 10 watts and 100. Also, I did a > comprehensive power output comparison over the course of several > thousands of WSPRnet "contacts" (at 1, 5 and 20 watts). I believe you > can make 2x or 3x the number of contacts by going from 10 to 100 watts, > everything else being equal. > > My antennas are fairly compromised: an indoor cobweb antenna for 10 thru > 20 and a relatively low endfed wire for the lower bands. If you can > improve your antenna dramatically certainly do that first. But whatever > antenna you use, assuming it works at all, 100 watts will be a great > improvement over 10 in my opinion. > > 73, > Drew > AF2Z > > >> On 06/21/16 13:08, Road Runner wrote: >> Have had my KX3 for a couple of weeks and love it. Biggest issue I have is even at 15 watts, unless conditions are right, I am having issues making DX contacts. The KX3 is connected to an Alpha Delta 80-6 meter fan dipole. I have been thinking about getting the KXPA 100 but wonder whether it will be enough of a bang for the buck. I use this at a summer cottage, at home I started with a Kenwood Ts-590SG and eventually upgraded the rig with an Ameritron 811H to get more punch. I have no problems getting picked out of pileup so now... >> So my question is for those of you that have gone the upgrade path to KXPA100... Did you get enough punch or are you wishing you had gone with more power? I am not really too crazy about going all the way to the KPA500... >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 27 > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 12:02:54 -0400 > From: John Pitz > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 LEDs > Message-ID: <1466611374.3107.16.camel at arabica> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I keep mine on their lowest settings too, wish they would go lower from > a battery use standpoint. For me the lowest setting is more than > adequate for use in bright sunlight which for me is pretty rare. It > would also be nice to be able to turn down the display brightness, > Assuming the display back light is on a PWM channel... > > >> On Wed, 2016-06-22 at 11:30 -0400, Kevin - K4VD wrote: >> >> Does anyone else find the LEDs on the KX3 to be a little too bright? >> Especially the green one. It seems the red and yellow are frosted/diffuse? >> a little but the green one is blinding at the wrong angle. >> >> I have the LED BRT set to 1. Any chance of making position #1 even dimmer >> in a future release? For now I just display PS voltage which keeps the >> yellow lights off. Tape will work to cover them up too. But increasing the >> range of the adjustment seems more elegant. >> >> 73, >> Kevin K4VD >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to crustacean at brig-elec.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 28 > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 09:41:31 -0700 > From: Andy Mrozek > To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Question on if folks have any experience with > GemProducts KX3 Vendor > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi List, > > About 8 months ago I ordered the protective case accessory from Gemproducts > off of his website. He originally had some production issues and was > communicating well on his website about it. I have emailed recently and > still haven't received the paid for in full product I was wondering if > anyone else is in this situation and how you resolved it . It looks like a > great product , but I am not sure why it takes 8 months + with full > payment. Here is the products www site - http://gemsproducts.com/KX3.html > > Thanks , Andy > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 29 > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 10:02:12 -0700 > From: Robert Nobis > To: Andy Mrozek > Cc: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Question on if folks have any experience with > GemProducts KX3 Vendor > Message-ID: <0DE512C0-6D71-49B9-BC0B-83673C0E281A at nobis.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Andy, > > I also order one of these nearly one year ago, and still have not received it. I recently sent them an email, and they apologized for the delay and referred me to their web page for details. Unfortunately the details on their web page are a bit vague and offer no information on when these will actually ship. > > 73, > > > Bob Nobis - N7RJN > n7rjn at nobis.net > > >> On Jun 22, 2016, at 09:41, Andy Mrozek wrote: >> >> Hi List, >> >> About 8 months ago I ordered the protective case accessory from Gemproducts >> off of his website. He originally had some production issues and was >> communicating well on his website about it. I have emailed recently and >> still haven't received the paid for in full product I was wondering if >> anyone else is in this situation and how you resolved it . It looks like a >> great product , but I am not sure why it takes 8 months + with full >> payment. Here is the products www site - http://gemsproducts.com/KX3.html >> >> Thanks , Andy >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to n7rjn at nobis.net >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 30 > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 11:21:58 -0600 > From: Sean Cavanaugh > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - KIO3 and USB to serial problems > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi all, > > I'm trying to get set up for Field Day, and as usual I'm bringing my K3. > Last time I had it set up on my laptop using a USB to serial adapter and it > worked fine. Since then, I've had it plugged into my shack PC using a > hardware serial port, where it has been working just fine. > > This time around, I can not get the K3 to talk to the laptop. I've tried 4 > USB->serial adapters, including an Elecraft one (using the older Prolific > chipset) and a brand new FTDI-based one. None of them will talk to the K3, > either in N1MM or the K3 utility. > > The same K3 and serial cable still work fine when talking to the PC. > > I've tried a number of different cables as well. Nothing works. I've > verified and re-verified that the settings on the PC and the laptop are the > same. > > Infuriatingly, I hooked up my K2 last night via the USB->serial cables I've > been trying and all of them work with N1MM and the K2. > > I'm about at the end of my rope. I don't relish the idea of hauling a full > sized PC out into a field, but it looks like that might be my only option. > > Anyone have any ideas of anything else I can check? > > Thanks and 73, > > Sean - VA5LF > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 31 > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 20:54:13 +0300 > From: Vic Rosenthal > To: Nick Kennedy > Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 'SHIFT' not functional > Message-ID: <52AA8091-47E8-4DE9-8532-71ED1FFD5787 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Check to see if QRQ mode is set. It locks out the shift function. If there is a little plus sign on the right side of the display in CW mode then that's it. > To turn it off, go to the CONFIG menu, CW WEIGHT and tap one of the number keys. I don't recall which, but you can find it in the manual. > > Vic 4X6GP > >> On 22 Jun 2016, at 17:39, Nick Kennedy wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> My K3?s ?SHIFT? control no longer shifts. It stays at the CW pitch frequency I?ve dialed up as indicated by ?FC *0.44?, for example, when I turn the knob. >> >> I had been setting up the rig for Field Day (taking out macros, etc.) when this occurred. >> >> This is happening in the CW mode. In fact, I just verified that SHIFT works normally in SSB and AM modes. The WIDTH control works normally as well. >> >> Searching the manual, it seems that using XFIL can disable SHIFT. Maybe I accidentally hit XFIL. But if I did, how do I go back to normal? When I rotate the WIDTH control, my filters are sequenced in and out as expected. >> >> No CAT is currently connected. >> >> At least it?s not fatal, but it would be nice to get the function back before Saturday. >> >> 73/TU, >> >> Nick, WA5BDU >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k2vco.vic at gmail.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > You must be a subscriber to post. > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > ------------------------------ > > End of Elecraft Digest, Vol 146, Issue 32 > ***************************************** From n7rjn at nobis.net Wed Jun 22 16:52:54 2016 From: n7rjn at nobis.net (Robert Nobis) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 13:52:54 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] GEMS Products SIDE KX delays. In-Reply-To: <1847101482.2566197.1466618749774.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1847101482.2566197.1466618749774.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1847101482.2566197.1466618749774.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8E089530-75DC-4D07-BBD3-CDE2A786B57A@nobis.net> Scott, I sure hope you are successful this time. 73, Bob Nobis - N7RJN n7rjn at nobis.net > On Jun 22, 2016, at 11:05, Scott Bastian wrote: > > Andy, and others regarding the delays in the SIDE KX products for the KX3/PX3 covers. I am Scott of GEMS Products. > Most of you have been keeping up with my web page updates. Here is a quick summary: > My plastic fabricator was a very talented one man shop and in May of 2015 he contracted Tuberculosis and was hospitalized in grave condition. This put me into a temporary back order as I awaited his recovery. But the Health Department came into his shop and quarantined it for 120 days and I was not able to get even my molds out of his shop. Now it is Sep my fabricator is still unable to return to work, but I get the molds out to a total of 4 shops each of which were unable to produce parts for a reasonable cost. During this time I had begun to move my parts over to injection molding. I employed a new fabricator and he built a mold and it took several revisions that did not produce a good part. Taking my project on a dual track and multiple shops cost 4 months and several thousand dollars. Now it is late January and I have a viable injection molder who has taken on the project for KX3 and PX3 covers. To create a mold is a 6 week process in the mill and to get it polished out before the first prototype part is made. Ithen have to do a modification for fitment issues. back in the mill and polishing for another 4 week time penalty. Just last week I was able to approve the mold and have it shipped to me. I am awaiting its delivery in the next 7 or so days. > So during this tie I have made many web updates to keep folks uptodate. I have a significant back order on parts and my customers have been nothing short of amazing with their patience. I thank each of them for this. > Please hang in there the mold is about here and the parts will be made just as soon as I take delivery and can get it set up and running. The beauty of injection molding is the speed at which parts can be made. As they come off the machine and are inspected will be printing shipping labels and getting parts out to you. > 73 Scott AK6Q > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n7rjn at nobis.net From w7ox at socal.rr.com Wed Jun 22 17:15:36 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 14:15:36 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Does one receive an email when an order is placed? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <71ddc6d6-faf3-84b8-815f-90c81888627d@socal.rr.com> In my case sometimes yes, sometimes no. Yes in the case of my KX2 order on May 21. Phil W7OX On 6/22/16 11:08 AM, Tom wrote: > The reason I ask is that early this month I ordered a bunch of stuff and I remember seeing the web page confirmation but I do not seem to have any email. Does one get sent? > Thanks, Tom > va2fsq.com > From wunder at wunderwood.org Wed Jun 22 17:19:33 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 14:19:33 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Does one receive an email when an order is placed? In-Reply-To: <71ddc6d6-faf3-84b8-815f-90c81888627d@socal.rr.com> References: <71ddc6d6-faf3-84b8-815f-90c81888627d@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <3AE7A1C2-5FEF-4D85-821C-67D8835510F6@wunderwood.org> Check your Junk Mail folder. That is where I found the order notification for my KXPA100. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jun 22, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > > In my case sometimes yes, sometimes no. Yes in the case of my KX2 order on May 21. > > Phil W7OX > > On 6/22/16 11:08 AM, Tom wrote: >> The reason I ask is that early this month I ordered a bunch of stuff and I remember seeing the web page confirmation but I do not seem to have any email. Does one get sent? >> Thanks, Tom >> va2fsq.com >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From donwilh at embarqmail.com Wed Jun 22 17:24:33 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 17:24:33 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Does one receive an email when an order is placed? In-Reply-To: <71ddc6d6-faf3-84b8-815f-90c81888627d@socal.rr.com> References: <71ddc6d6-faf3-84b8-815f-90c81888627d@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <2444e5d6-9a78-d57f-013d-39176852f97c@embarqmail.com> I believe if you order on-line, you will receive an email confirmation. If you order by phone or an email direct to sales, an email is not likely until it ships. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/22/2016 5:15 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > In my case sometimes yes, sometimes no. Yes in the case of my KX2 > order on May 21. > > Phil W7OX > From nick-wa5bdu at suddenlink.net Wed Jun 22 17:24:54 2016 From: nick-wa5bdu at suddenlink.net (Nick Kennedy) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 16:24:54 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 'SHIFT' not functional In-Reply-To: <52AA8091-47E8-4DE9-8532-71ED1FFD5787@gmail.com> References: <669FB3D07C4B4841B872B3A9AC54716A@blackmike> <52AA8091-47E8-4DE9-8532-71ED1FFD5787@gmail.com> Message-ID: <915BB16C7C8848D5825872E2075460D7@blackmike> You are quite right, Vic. It amazes me that I didn't know that since I've used QRQ from day 1 and thought I used SHIFT as well. Currently, it's a direct CONFIG menu entry CW QRQ and select ON or OFF. 73- Nick, WA5BDU -----Original Message----- From: Vic Rosenthal Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 12:54 PM To: Nick Kennedy Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 'SHIFT' not functional Check to see if QRQ mode is set. It locks out the shift function. If there is a little plus sign on the right side of the display in CW mode then that's it. To turn it off, go to the CONFIG menu, CW WEIGHT and tap one of the number keys. I don't recall which, but you can find it in the manual. Vic 4X6GP From ray at band.se Wed Jun 22 17:29:24 2016 From: ray at band.se (Raymund Band) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 23:29:24 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] Does one receive an email when an order is placed? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <021b01d1cccd$25ef0b40$71cd21c0$@band.se> Since 1999 or thereabouts I have placed at least 30 orders on the Elecraft web page for K1, K2, K3, KX3 and associated equipment together with lots of orders for spare parts. I have without exception always received an email order confirmation. Ray / SM5XLP -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr?n: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] F?r Tom Skickat: den 22 juni 2016 20:09 Till: Elecraft Reflector ?mne: [Elecraft] Does one receive an email when an order is placed? The reason I ask is that early this month I ordered a bunch of stuff and I remember seeing the web page confirmation but I do not seem to have any email. Does one get sent? Thanks, Tom va2fsq.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ray at band.se From edauer at law.du.edu Wed Jun 22 19:34:44 2016 From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 23:34:44 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Does one receive an email when an order is placed? Message-ID: Same here. All my orders have been via the web site. Usually get an acknowledgment right away; but a couple of times, none at all. The order just showed up, unannounced (but not unwelcome.) Ted, KN1CBR ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 14:15:36 -0700 From: Phil Wheeler To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Does one receive an email when an order is placed? Message-ID: <71ddc6d6-faf3-84b8-815f-90c81888627d at socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed In my case sometimes yes, sometimes no. Yes in the case of my KX2 order on May 21. Phil W7OX From eric at elecraft.com Wed Jun 22 21:01:32 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 03:01:32 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 146, Issue 32 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <26D7FA2D-1DA9-4FFB-A021-D7C63956E06D@elecraft.com> I believe Scott at GEMS Products has a new plastics vendor. Scott has great products and a great company. 73, Eric elecraft.com _..._ > On Jun 22, 2016, at 8:28 PM, Howard Hoyt wrote: > > Hi all, > > GEMS Products is a great company to do business with, but I spoke with them at Dayton, and over the last months they have had a big problem with plastic vendors which has delayed production of the plastic covers. If any of you have ever had to find a vendor who does quality work on a complex part in small quantities for a good price, you can appreciate what GEMS has had to go through to get a replacement vendor. Finding a vendor for big quantities, high prices or low quality is no problem... > > Ask me how I know... > > Howie - WA4PSC > > >> On 6/22/2016 1:53 PM, elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net wrote: >> Re: [Elecraft] Question on if folks have any experience with >> GemProducts KX3 Vendor > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com > From w6jhb at me.com Wed Jun 22 21:15:09 2016 From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 18:15:09 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 146, Issue 32 In-Reply-To: <26D7FA2D-1DA9-4FFB-A021-D7C63956E06D@elecraft.com> References: <26D7FA2D-1DA9-4FFB-A021-D7C63956E06D@elecraft.com> Message-ID: Absolutely - I?ve got his KX3 / PX3 covers and handles - super products and a great vendor. I wouldn?t have a problem waiting months for his offerings - they are that good! Jim / W6JHB > On Wednesday, Jun 22, 2016, at Wednesday, 6:01 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: > > I believe Scott at GEMS Products has a new plastics vendor. > > Scott has great products and a great company. > > 73, > Eric > elecraft.com > _..._ > > > >> On Jun 22, 2016, at 8:28 PM, Howard Hoyt wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> GEMS Products is a great company to do business with, but I spoke with them at Dayton, and over the last months they have had a big problem with plastic vendors which has delayed production of the plastic covers. If any of you have ever had to find a vendor who does quality work on a complex part in small quantities for a good price, you can appreciate what GEMS has had to go through to get a replacement vendor. Finding a vendor for big quantities, high prices or low quality is no problem... >> >> Ask me how I know... >> >> Howie - WA4PSC >> >> >>> On 6/22/2016 1:53 PM, elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net wrote: >>> Re: [Elecraft] Question on if folks have any experience with >>> GemProducts KX3 Vendor >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w6jhb at me.com From eric at elecraft.com Wed Jun 22 21:15:58 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 03:15:58 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] Does one receive an email when an order is placed? In-Reply-To: <9702BE942061469A83FB89336A77B7AF@tomsPC> References: <9702BE942061469A83FB89336A77B7AF@tomsPC> Message-ID: <156948B1-B5E7-465D-A4C0-3AB4A2261C82@elecraft.com> Our Web order entry system always sends an immediate email confirmation. Ron was probably noting that we do not normally send a second one manually. We usually also send an automated email with a tracking number when we ship via UPS. If you do not receive a quick confirmation email when placing an order on the web, its likely there was a typo in your entered email address on the order. (Or it is caught in your spam filter. Make sure to search on and whitelist emails from VirtualCart at vcart.com , which is our secure shopping cart vendor.) Feel free to call or email sales at elecraft.com if you do not receive an email order confirmation quickly 73, Eric elecraft.com _..._ > On Jun 22, 2016, at 9:06 PM, Tom wrote: > > Well lo and behold. This time I received an email confirmation. I do not have one from when I placed the order a few weeks ago. > Funny, Ron in sales says they do NOT send an email confirmation. > 73 > > -----Original Message----- From: Bob > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 2:55 PM > To: Tom ; Elecraft Reflector > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Does one receive an email when an order is placed? > > Hi Tom, > > Last order placed was for K-Pod on April 17th and I did. As far as > I remember always did in the past too. > > 73, > > Bob > > K2TK > > > >> On 6/22/2016 2:08 PM, Tom wrote: >> The reason I ask is that early this month I ordered a bunch of stuff and I remember seeing the web page confirmation but I do not seem to have any email. Does one get sent? >> Thanks, Tom >> va2fsq.com > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com > From wb8yyy at yahoo.com Wed Jun 22 21:18:28 2016 From: wb8yyy at yahoo.com (Curt Milton) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 01:18:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] KPA100 SWR Bridge Issue References: <1011432799.4307.1466644708201.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1011432799.4307.1466644708201.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Before I dismantle this thing one more time, curious if any sage info is available -- I noticed that with a dummy load plugged in, and operating at 5 watts -- I get a reasonable power reading but SWR is around 10:1.? It does not change at all as I tweak C1.? both outputs from the op amp are reading around 1 volt more or less.? both diodes are reading okay with my DVM.? both pots have been adjusted for 43k ohms per the instruction.? maybe I damaged C1 is disassembly, or I don't have the windings connected to the PC board - but DVM affirms conductivity so at least one is attached.? yes I realize not much in this network, yet something is astray.? (no surprise that sensing a high SWR that the KPA won't do high power?) 73 Curt From k1xx at k1xx.com Wed Jun 22 22:02:07 2016 From: k1xx at k1xx.com (charlie carroll) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 22:02:07 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Does one receive an email when an order is placed? In-Reply-To: <156948B1-B5E7-465D-A4C0-3AB4A2261C82@elecraft.com> References: <9702BE942061469A83FB89336A77B7AF@tomsPC> <156948B1-B5E7-465D-A4C0-3AB4A2261C82@elecraft.com> Message-ID: Actually, my confirmation message came from sales3 at elecraft.com. 73 charlie, k1xx On 6/22/2016 9:15 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: > Our Web order entry system always sends an immediate email confirmation. Ron was probably noting that we do not normally send a second one manually. > > We usually also send an automated email with a tracking number when we ship via UPS. > > If you do not receive a quick confirmation email when placing an order on the web, its likely there was a typo in your entered email address on the order. (Or it is caught in your spam filter. Make sure to search on and whitelist emails from VirtualCart at vcart.com , which is our secure shopping cart vendor.) > > Feel free to call or email sales at elecraft.com if you do not receive an email order confirmation quickly > > 73, > > Eric > elecraft.com > _..._ > > > >> On Jun 22, 2016, at 9:06 PM, Tom wrote: >> >> Well lo and behold. This time I received an email confirmation. I do not have one from when I placed the order a few weeks ago. >> Funny, Ron in sales says they do NOT send an email confirmation. >> 73 >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Bob >> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 2:55 PM >> To: Tom ; Elecraft Reflector >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Does one receive an email when an order is placed? >> >> Hi Tom, >> >> Last order placed was for K-Pod on April 17th and I did. As far as >> I remember always did in the past too. >> >> 73, >> >> Bob >> >> K2TK >> >> >> >>> On 6/22/2016 2:08 PM, Tom wrote: >>> The reason I ask is that early this month I ordered a bunch of stuff and I remember seeing the web page confirmation but I do not seem to have any email. Does one get sent? >>> Thanks, Tom >>> va2fsq.com >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k1xx at k1xx.com > From tomb18 at videotron.ca Wed Jun 22 23:01:22 2016 From: tomb18 at videotron.ca (Tom) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 23:01:22 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Does one receive an email when an order is placed? In-Reply-To: References: <9702BE942061469A83FB89336A77B7AF@tomsPC> Message-ID: Hi, I do think that there is something wrong with the virtual cart ordering system. I do not have a confirmation message in my junk folder. If I had made an error in my email address then there should have been a notification to someone about this error. I entered my email address, my phone number and my call sign. I did NOT make an error in all three. A very quick search on my call sign VA2FSQ would quickly show my email address, phone number, and my order history (almost every single Elecraft product)., I now need to wait an additional three weeks for my product. I would expect a little bit better consideration especially since I dropped everything to help you guys out just a little while ago. So much for professional courtesy. -----Original Message----- From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 9:15 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Does one receive an email when an order is placed? Our Web order entry system always sends an immediate email confirmation. Ron was probably noting that we do not normally send a second one manually. We usually also send an automated email with a tracking number when we ship via UPS. If you do not receive a quick confirmation email when placing an order on the web, its likely there was a typo in your entered email address on the order. (Or it is caught in your spam filter. Make sure to search on and whitelist emails from VirtualCart at vcart.com , which is our secure shopping cart vendor.) Feel free to call or email sales at elecraft.com if you do not receive an email order confirmation quickly 73, Eric elecraft.com _..._ > On Jun 22, 2016, at 9:06 PM, Tom wrote: > > Well lo and behold. This time I received an email confirmation. I do not > have one from when I placed the order a few weeks ago. > Funny, Ron in sales says they do NOT send an email confirmation. > 73 > > -----Original Message----- From: Bob > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 2:55 PM > To: Tom ; Elecraft Reflector > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Does one receive an email when an order is placed? > > Hi Tom, > > Last order placed was for K-Pod on April 17th and I did. As far > as > I remember always did in the past too. > > 73, > > Bob > > K2TK > > > >> On 6/22/2016 2:08 PM, Tom wrote: >> The reason I ask is that early this month I ordered a bunch of stuff and >> I remember seeing the web page confirmation but I do not seem to have any >> email. Does one get sent? >> Thanks, Tom >> va2fsq.com > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric.swartz at elecraft.com > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tomb18 at videotron.ca --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From wbmccarty at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 00:17:52 2016 From: wbmccarty at gmail.com (W B McCarty) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 21:17:52 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Does one receive an email when an order is placed? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tom and others, Over the past several months I've made several orders and I've noticed a pattern. When I pay via PayPal *I do not receive an email confirmation. *Even more distressing is that I've written two messages to sales at elecraft.com, at about a one-month interval, asking for a copy of my two missing orders. *These requests have been entirely ignored*. I recently ordered a KX2 and was careful to make a copy of my order. I again requested a copy of the two orders missing from my files. That was now several days ago. I've heard nothing. Perhaps this information will help others make sense of their own experience. And perhaps this public shaming will prompt Elecraft to be more responsive to the reasonable minor requests of customers who've made purchases of multiple thousands of dollars. Cheers, On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Tom wrote: > The reason I ask is that early this month I ordered a bunch of stuff and I > remember seeing the web page confirmation but I do not seem to have any > email. Does one get sent? > Thanks, Tom > va2fsq.com > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wbmccarty at gmail.com > -- Bill McCarty Sent from my Cray CX1 supercomputer--I'm still saving for a CX2 From Bernhard.Horst at bmw.de Thu Jun 23 02:00:39 2016 From: Bernhard.Horst at bmw.de (Bernhard.Horst at bmw.de) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 06:00:39 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] GEMS Products SIDE KX delays. In-Reply-To: <1847101482.2566197.1466618749774.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1847101482.2566197.1466618749774.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1847101482.2566197.1466618749774.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <475088e950fa408b84dfcfb0af7b4031@smucm03m.europe.bmw.corp> Sorry to hear that Scott... But its worth waiting for your products..they have been all around Europe with my KX3:-) 73s Bernie DL5RDP -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Scott Bastian [mailto:kd6qzx at sbcglobal.net] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Juni 2016 20:06 An: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Betreff: [Elecraft] GEMS Products SIDE KX delays. Andy, ?and others regarding the delays in the SIDE KX products for the KX3/PX3 covers. ? I am Scott of GEMS Products. ? ?Most of you have been keeping up with my web page updates. ?Here is a quick summary: My plastic fabricator was a very talented one man shop and in May of 2015 he contracted Tuberculosis and was hospitalized in grave condition. ?This put me into a temporary back order as I awaited his recovery. ?But the Health Department came into his shop and quarantined it for 120 days and I was not able to get even my molds out of his shop. ?Now it is Sep my fabricator is still unable to return to work, but I get the molds out to a total of 4 shops each of which were unable to produce parts for a reasonable cost. ?During this time I had begun to move my parts over to injection molding. ?I employed a new fabricator and he built a mold and it took several revisions that did not produce a good part. ?Taking my project on a dual track and multiple shops cost 4 months and several thousand dollars. ?Now it is late January and I have a viable injection molder who has taken on the project for KX3 and PX3 covers. To create a mold is a 6 week process in the mill and to get it polished out before the first prototype part is made. ?Ithen ?have to do a modification for fitment issues. back in the mill and polishing for another 4 week time penalty. ?Just last week I was able to approve the mold and have it shipped to me. ?I am awaiting its delivery in the next 7 or so days. ? So during this tie I have made many web updates to keep folks uptodate. ?I have a significant back order on parts and my customers have been nothing short of amazing with their patience. ?I thank each of them for this. Please hang in there the mold is about here and the parts will be made just as soon as I take delivery and can get it set up and running. ?The beauty of ?injection molding is the speed at which parts can be made. As they come off the machine and are inspected ?will be printing shipping labels and getting parts out to you.? 73 Scott AK6Q? From donwilh at embarqmail.com Thu Jun 23 08:17:32 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 08:17:32 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA100 SWR Bridge Issue In-Reply-To: <1011432799.4307.1466644708201.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1011432799.4307.1466644708201.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1011432799.4307.1466644708201.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Curt, You do have a wattmeter problem, and likely if you fix that, all will settle down. You can work on the wattmeter problem at low power only - at low power, you do not have to mount the board to the heatsink. Just power the base K2 and do not plug any power into the KPA100 board. First set the two trimpots R26 and R27 close to mid-range. Then measure the resistance to ground from U5 pin 3 and U5 pin 5. You should read something between 40k and 50k ohms. If vastly other than that, first check diodes D16 and D17. Make sure the diodes are oriented correctly - look at the parts placement diagram near the back of the manual. The next thing is T4 - it must be wound *exactly* as shown in the diagram in the manual - including the direction of the winding - and the leads must be in the proper holes. The "1 turn link" provided by the red wire and the bare wire soldered to the SO-239 center must also be in the right places and well soldered. Did you put the correct trimmer capacitor at C1? If this is a new kit, the proper trimmer has a white body (not the yellow one). I have a suspicion that you may have wound T4 in the wrong direction or have the leads not in the right holes. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/22/2016 9:18 PM, Curt Milton via Elecraft wrote: > Before I dismantle this thing one more time, curious if any sage info is available -- > I noticed that with a dummy load plugged in, and operating at 5 watts -- I get a reasonable power reading but SWR is around 10:1. It does not change at all as I tweak C1. both outputs from the op amp are reading around 1 volt more or less. both diodes are reading okay with my DVM. both pots have been adjusted for 43k ohms per the instruction. > > maybe I damaged C1 is disassembly, or I don't have the windings connected to the PC board - but DVM affirms conductivity so at least one is attached. yes I realize not much in this network, yet something is astray. (no surprise that sensing a high SWR that the KPA won't do high power?) > > 73 Curt > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com From rstealey at hotmail.com Thu Jun 23 09:55:28 2016 From: rstealey at hotmail.com (Rick Stealey) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 13:55:28 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Does one receive an email when an order is placed? In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: 15 messages on this topic. I'm turning off the PC and turning on the K3. Even if the bands are dead it will be more informative and entertaining. Rick K2XT ________________________________ From Joseph.Sanger at nyumc.org Thu Jun 23 10:58:50 2016 From: Joseph.Sanger at nyumc.org (Sanger, Joseph) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 14:58:50 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away Message-ID: I have developed a new problem with my PX3, which has been quietly sitting in a case for the past 6 months. Whenever I tune across the display, there is a slowly rising spike at the base frequency (for instance, in USB mode this spike adheres to the left hand edge of the bandpass indicator on PX3 screeen), takes about 2-3 seconds or so to increase in intensity, and then dwarfs any of the signals on the band. This spike tracks across as I tune; it is there whether or not the antenna is connected. I can tune to stations and hear them fine, but the display is barely usable because of this very tall spike that won't go away. I reseated my cables connecting the PX3 to KX3, with no change in behavior. I have no other cables here to swap them out, and am kind of stuck I have updated b both KX3 and PX3 to latest firmware, with no change in behavior. Any thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated. --Joe --WB2SSB Joseph J. Sanger, M.D. Associate Professor of Radiology Director, Radiology Informatics 462 1st Ave.- OBH C&D 1st fl. Rm 7 New York, NY. 10016 Phone: (212) 263-3434 ------------------------------------------------------------ This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender by return email and delete the original message. Please note, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The organization accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ================================= From w7ox at socal.rr.com Thu Jun 23 11:07:40 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 08:07:40 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Re-seat the cables to the the PX3? Phil W7OX On 6/23/16 7:58 AM, Sanger, Joseph wrote: > I have developed a new problem with my PX3, which has been quietly sitting in a case for the past 6 months. > > Whenever I tune across the display, there is a slowly rising spike at the base frequency (for instance, in USB mode this spike adheres to the left hand edge of the bandpass indicator on PX3 screeen), takes about 2-3 seconds or so to increase in intensity, and then dwarfs any of the signals on the band. This spike tracks across as I tune; it is there whether or not the antenna is connected. I can tune to stations and hear them fine, but the display is barely usable because of this very tall spike that won't go away. I reseated my cables connecting the PX3 to KX3, with no change in behavior. I have no other cables here to swap them out, and am kind of stuck > > I have updated b both KX3 and PX3 to latest firmware, with no change in behavior. > > Any thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated. > > --Joe > --WB2SSB From Joseph.Sanger at nyumc.org Thu Jun 23 11:15:56 2016 From: Joseph.Sanger at nyumc.org (Sanger, Joseph) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 15:15:56 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: First thing that I tried, Phil, but thanks for the reply. From: Phil Wheeler [mailto:w7ox at socal.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 11:08 AM To: Sanger, Joseph; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away Re-seat the cables to the the PX3? Phil W7OX On 6/23/16 7:58 AM, Sanger, Joseph wrote: I have developed a new problem with my PX3, which has been quietly sitting in a case for the past 6 months. Whenever I tune across the display, there is a slowly rising spike at the base frequency (for instance, in USB mode this spike adheres to the left hand edge of the bandpass indicator on PX3 screeen), takes about 2-3 seconds or so to increase in intensity, and then dwarfs any of the signals on the band. This spike tracks across as I tune; it is there whether or not the antenna is connected. I can tune to stations and hear them fine, but the display is barely usable because of this very tall spike that won't go away. I reseated my cables connecting the PX3 to KX3, with no change in behavior. I have no other cables here to swap them out, and am kind of stuck I have updated b both KX3 and PX3 to latest firmware, with no change in behavior. Any thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated. --Joe --WB2SSB ------------------------------------------------------------ This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender by return email and delete the original message. Please note, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The organization accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ================================= From n1rj at roadrunner.com Thu Jun 23 12:59:17 2016 From: n1rj at roadrunner.com (Roger D Johnson) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 12:59:17 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Help! Message-ID: <576C1565.10905@roadrunner.com> I just finished the connector mod and replaced some of the encoders. All seemed to go well until I noticed that NONE of the front panel LEDs were lit! has anyone been down this road before? 73, Roger From k2vco.vic at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 13:09:31 2016 From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 20:09:31 +0300 Subject: [Elecraft] Help! In-Reply-To: <576C1565.10905@roadrunner.com> References: <576C1565.10905@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <62f4920c-d53a-5b36-bc38-bfe2bf5966d3@gmail.com> K3 I presume? Make sure the front panel is plugged into the RF board correctly (i.e., not shifted over to one side). 73, Vic, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 23 Jun 2016 19:59, Roger D Johnson wrote: > I just finished the connector mod and replaced some of the encoders. All > seemed > to go well until I noticed that NONE of the front panel LEDs were lit! > > has anyone been down this road before? > > 73, Roger From kengkopp at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 13:29:41 2016 From: kengkopp at gmail.com (Ken G Kopp) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 11:29:41 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping in-transit time Message-ID: FWIW Rose -always- uses USPS Priority Mail for shipping her cases and dust covers. Don't recall a package ever taking longer than three days to anywhere in the US from here in the outback of Montana, and the tracking number is a bonus for her and the customer. UPS and FedEx (ugh!) are both via an agent, which adds time and both are more costly than the USPS. 73! Ken - K0PP From n1rj at roadrunner.com Thu Jun 23 17:19:52 2016 From: n1rj at roadrunner.com (Roger D Johnson) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 17:19:52 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Help! In-Reply-To: <576C1565.10905@roadrunner.com> References: <576C1565.10905@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <576C5278.5070506@roadrunner.com> From n1rj at roadrunner.com Thu Jun 23 17:28:00 2016 From: n1rj at roadrunner.com (Roger D Johnson) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 17:28:00 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Help with K3 Message-ID: <576C5460.1070601@roadrunner.com> Well, the "edit as new" didn't seem to work! The rig with no front panel LEDs working is a K3. I do have 5 volt power to the LEDs. 73, Roger From Joseph.Sanger at nyumc.org Thu Jun 23 17:46:59 2016 From: Joseph.Sanger at nyumc.org (Sanger, Joseph) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:46:59 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Test From: Phil Wheeler [mailto:w7ox at socal.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 11:08 AM To: Sanger, Joseph; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away Re-seat the cables to the the PX3? Phil W7OX On 6/23/16 7:58 AM, Sanger, Joseph wrote: I have developed a new problem with my PX3, which has been quietly sitting in a case for the past 6 months. Whenever I tune across the display, there is a slowly rising spike at the base frequency (for instance, in USB mode this spike adheres to the left hand edge of the bandpass indicator on PX3 screeen), takes about 2-3 seconds or so to increase in intensity, and then dwarfs any of the signals on the band. This spike tracks across as I tune; it is there whether or not the antenna is connected. I can tune to stations and hear them fine, but the display is barely usable because of this very tall spike that won't go away. I reseated my cables connecting the PX3 to KX3, with no change in behavior. I have no other cables here to swap them out, and am kind of stuck I have updated b both KX3 and PX3 to latest firmware, with no change in behavior. Any thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated. --Joe --WB2SSB ------------------------------------------------------------ This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender by return email and delete the original message. Please note, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The organization accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ================================= From donwilh at embarqmail.com Thu Jun 23 18:46:23 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 18:46:23 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Help with K3 In-Reply-To: <576C5460.1070601@roadrunner.com> References: <576C5460.1070601@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <0edd053c-89db-1598-5a1d-222ea266f4e2@embarqmail.com> Roger, It may be that the driver IC for the LEDs has been damaged. There is 5 volts on the LEDs, but the driver IC has to bring the other lead near zero volts to light the LED. If you did not work on an anti-static mat when doing the connector change, that may be the blame. But just the same, re-check the soldering on the connectors you changed. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/23/2016 5:28 PM, Roger D Johnson wrote: > The rig with no front panel LEDs working is a K3. > > I do have 5 volt power to the LEDs. > From brian.waterworth at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 19:31:20 2016 From: brian.waterworth at gmail.com (Brian Waterworth) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 19:31:20 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In prep for field day, I decided to stage everything last night and also ran into the same problem as you describe. I re-seated all the cables. No effect. I turned on the rx shft on the kx3 and the nasty noise shifted away. Ok, that's good. But not what I wanted. I disconnected the USB acc1 cable from the small computer I was planning to take with me to FD and the noise vanished. Each of the computer, the kx3, px3, external power supply, external antenna tuner are all grounded to a common point. The exception is the monitor and fan (it's going to be hot :-). I connected the same setup using a raspberry pi instead of the small computer and no noise observed at the tuned frequency. Drat. So, I am thinking of buying a powered USB hub to try and isolate the USB acc1 cable plugged into the PX3. Seems as thought the small computer I was going to use is picking up the internal IF and bringing it back into the PX3, KX3 via the USB acc1 cable. regards, Brian VE3IBW On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Sanger, Joseph wrote: > I have developed a new problem with my PX3, which has been quietly sitting > in a case for the past 6 months. > > Whenever I tune across the display, there is a slowly rising spike at the > base frequency (for instance, in USB mode this spike adheres to the left > hand edge of the bandpass indicator on PX3 screeen), takes about 2-3 > seconds or so to increase in intensity, and then dwarfs any of the signals > on the band. This spike tracks across as I tune; it is there whether or > not the antenna is connected. I can tune to stations and hear them fine, > but the display is barely usable because of this very tall spike that won't > go away. I reseated my cables connecting the PX3 to KX3, with no change in > behavior. I have no other cables here to swap them out, and am kind of > stuck > > I have updated b both KX3 and PX3 to latest firmware, with no change in > behavior. > > Any thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated. > > --Joe > --WB2SSB > > Joseph J. Sanger, M.D. > Associate Professor of Radiology > Director, Radiology Informatics > > 462 1st Ave.- OBH C&D 1st fl. Rm 7 > New York, NY. 10016 > > Phone: (212) 263-3434 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the > intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, > confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any > unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you > have received this email in error please notify the sender by return email > and delete the original message. Please note, the recipient should check > this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The > organization accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus > transmitted by this email. > ================================= > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to brian.waterworth at gmail.com > From Joseph.Sanger at nyumc.org Thu Jun 23 19:34:55 2016 From: Joseph.Sanger at nyumc.org (Sanger, Joseph) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 23:34:55 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Interesting. I see the noise spike even with the PX3 disconnected from the KX3, and neither is connected to a PC. There IS a notebook running about 15 feet away ? never occurred to me that this COULD be the source of the noise. I will shut notebook down in a bit and see if the problem changes at all. BTW, the noise spike only is occurring on 20 meters, it turns out. Strange. Thanks for chiming in, Brian. Hope you sort out your troubles! -- Joe --WB2SSB From: Brian Waterworth [mailto:brian.waterworth at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 7:31 PM To: Sanger, Joseph Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away In prep for field day, I decided to stage everything last night and also ran into the same problem as you describe. I re-seated all the cables. No effect. I turned on the rx shft on the kx3 and the nasty noise shifted away. Ok, that's good. But not what I wanted. I disconnected the USB acc1 cable from the small computer I was planning to take with me to FD and the noise vanished. Each of the computer, the kx3, px3, external power supply, external antenna tuner are all grounded to a common point. The exception is the monitor and fan (it's going to be hot :-). I connected the same setup using a raspberry pi instead of the small computer and no noise observed at the tuned frequency. Drat. So, I am thinking of buying a powered USB hub to try and isolate the USB acc1 cable plugged into the PX3. Seems as thought the small computer I was going to use is picking up the internal IF and bringing it back into the PX3, KX3 via the USB acc1 cable. regards, Brian VE3IBW On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Sanger, Joseph > wrote: I have developed a new problem with my PX3, which has been quietly sitting in a case for the past 6 months. Whenever I tune across the display, there is a slowly rising spike at the base frequency (for instance, in USB mode this spike adheres to the left hand edge of the bandpass indicator on PX3 screeen), takes about 2-3 seconds or so to increase in intensity, and then dwarfs any of the signals on the band. This spike tracks across as I tune; it is there whether or not the antenna is connected. I can tune to stations and hear them fine, but the display is barely usable because of this very tall spike that won't go away. I reseated my cables connecting the PX3 to KX3, with no change in behavior. I have no other cables here to swap them out, and am kind of stuck I have updated b both KX3 and PX3 to latest firmware, with no change in behavior. Any thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated. --Joe --WB2SSB Joseph J. Sanger, M.D. Associate Professor of Radiology Director, Radiology Informatics 462 1st Ave.- OBH C&D 1st fl. Rm 7 New York, NY. 10016 Phone: (212) 263-3434 ------------------------------------------------------------ This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender by return email and delete the original message. Please note, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The organization accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ================================= ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to brian.waterworth at gmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------ This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender by return email and delete the original message. Please note, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The organization accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ================================= From brian.waterworth at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 19:51:37 2016 From: brian.waterworth at gmail.com (Brian Waterworth) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 19:51:37 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I hope so too :-) I have asked my assistant band captain to bring a laptop. I was hoping to use this little Stealth computer. It is fanless, encased in a metal shell and is a 12v computer. I stuffed an SSD in it and run N1MM+ and FlDigi. A nice little package for FD, or so I thought :-) I also see the most severe noise on 20m and when I switched to 40m, the noise wasn't as bad, but still there. The computer is only about 2 feet away from the KX3 and PX3. I also tried to bypass the PX3 with the computer cable and go direct to the KX3. Noise was still there. When I had the RPi connected with no noise, I decided to turn on the small stealth computer. It was not connected to the KX3 nor PX3 via audio or USB acc1 cables. However, as the processor was working hard during boot, the noise reappeared on the PX3. Not as strong, in fact somewhat weak, but it was still there. The only common connections were the grounding straps and the power supply (powerpole block). I am going to move the equipment around a bit, especially the power supply and powerpole block. They normally aren't that close to the equipment in the shack. I moved everything to a small table that I plan to have setup at my station. Perhaps something is too close to the KX3 and that is what is picking up the RFI. Good luck to you to Joe. I am sure you will find the offender eventually too. regards, Brian VE3IBW On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Sanger, Joseph wrote: > Interesting. I see the noise spike even with the PX3 disconnected from > the KX3, and neither is connected to a PC. There IS a notebook running > about 15 feet away ? never occurred to me that this COULD be the source of > the noise. I will shut notebook down in a bit and see if the problem > changes at all. > > > > BTW, the noise spike only is occurring on 20 meters, it turns out. > Strange. > > > > Thanks for chiming in, Brian. Hope you sort out your troubles! > > > > -- Joe > > --WB2SSB > > > > *From:* Brian Waterworth [mailto:brian.waterworth at gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, June 23, 2016 7:31 PM > *To:* Sanger, Joseph > *Cc:* elecraft at mailman.qth.net > *Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away > > > > In prep for field day, I decided to stage everything last night and also > ran into the same problem as you describe. I re-seated all the cables. No > effect. I turned on the rx shft on the kx3 and the nasty noise shifted > away. Ok, that's good. But not what I wanted. > > I disconnected the USB acc1 cable from the small computer I was planning > to take with me to FD and the noise vanished. Each of the computer, the > kx3, px3, external power supply, external antenna tuner are all grounded to > a common point. The exception is the monitor and fan (it's going to be hot > :-). > > I connected the same setup using a raspberry pi instead of the small > computer and no noise observed at the tuned frequency. Drat. > > So, I am thinking of buying a powered USB hub to try and isolate the USB > acc1 cable plugged into the PX3. Seems as thought the small computer I was > going to use is picking up the internal IF and bringing it back into the > PX3, KX3 via the USB acc1 cable. > > regards, > > Brian > > VE3IBW > > > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Sanger, Joseph > wrote: > > I have developed a new problem with my PX3, which has been quietly sitting > in a case for the past 6 months. > > Whenever I tune across the display, there is a slowly rising spike at the > base frequency (for instance, in USB mode this spike adheres to the left > hand edge of the bandpass indicator on PX3 screeen), takes about 2-3 > seconds or so to increase in intensity, and then dwarfs any of the signals > on the band. This spike tracks across as I tune; it is there whether or > not the antenna is connected. I can tune to stations and hear them fine, > but the display is barely usable because of this very tall spike that won't > go away. I reseated my cables connecting the PX3 to KX3, with no change in > behavior. I have no other cables here to swap them out, and am kind of > stuck > > I have updated b both KX3 and PX3 to latest firmware, with no change in > behavior. > > Any thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated. > > --Joe > --WB2SSB > > Joseph J. Sanger, M.D. > Associate Professor of Radiology > Director, Radiology Informatics > > 462 1st Ave.- OBH C&D 1st fl. Rm 7 > New York, NY. 10016 > > Phone: (212) 263-3434 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the > intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, > confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any > unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you > have received this email in error please notify the sender by return email > and delete the original message. Please note, the recipient should check > this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The > organization accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus > transmitted by this email. > ================================= > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to brian.waterworth at gmail.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the > intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, > confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any > unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you > have received this email in error please notify the sender by return email > and delete the original message. Please note, the recipient should check > this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The > organization accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus > transmitted by this email. > ================================= > From donwilh at embarqmail.com Thu Jun 23 21:02:26 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:02:26 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Brian, The answer is *bonding* as described by Jim Brown K9YC for minimizing noise, hum and buzz. Connecting everything to a common point may actually make the situation worse (see the K9YC papers). "Grounding" everything will not minimize noise, hum and buzz. Mother earth ground is not a 'sink' for RF, noise, hum or buzz - it is only for safety from AC mains faults or suppression of surges coming in on your antenna feedline. Make your bonding follow the path(s) taken by the shields of your audio cables and coax and you will have better results. In other words, bond the computer to the soundcard device (if included), and bond that to the KX3. Bond the KX3 to the PX3, and bond the antenna tuner to the KX3 (following the path of the coax). Then you may bond the antenna tuner to your common ground point for AC mains safety and lightning protection. The reasoning behind this bonding is to conduct much of the noise, hum and buzz to the *outside* of the equipment enclosures rather than having it conducted onto the ground plane of the PC boards. In the long past, we did not have those problems. Connectors were mounted on the enclosure chassis, and any noise, hum or buzz would be conducted onto the outside of the enclosure where it was not likely to cause any harm. With modern construction techniques, the connectors are mounted to the PC board inside the enclosure (and not to the outside of the enclosure). That means that any noise, hum and buzz that is picked up on the shields of AF cables or coax will be conducted directly onto the ground plane of the electronics. The bonding between enclosures in parallel to the audio and RF paths drastically reduces the coupling of that noise, hum and buzz onto the circuit board and lets it flow harmlessly onto the outside of the enclosures. This is the "pin 1 problem" that K9YC refers to. If you do equipment to equipment bonding and bond the final element (amplifier or antenna tuner) to your station ground, everything in the station will also be grounded - assuming you use heavy wire or strap for the equipment to equipment bonding - the shield stripped from old RG8 coax will do nicely as will #12 or larger wire. Try it, it works. For those who ask how to bond to a laptop computer, my answer is "any way you can" - if you have a jackscrew for a VGA connector, that is an obvious point - otherwise connecting to the shell of a USB or HDMI connector may be your only choice - do the best you can. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/23/2016 7:31 PM, Brian Waterworth wrote: > I disconnected the USB acc1 cable from the small computer I was planning to > take with me to FD and the noise vanished. Each of the computer, the kx3, > px3, external power supply, external antenna tuner are all grounded to a > common point. The exception is the monitor and fan (it's going to be hot > :-). > > From frantz at pwpconsult.com Thu Jun 23 21:34:48 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 18:34:48 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away In-Reply-To: Message-ID: For those laptops in aluminum cases, a alligator clip to the case might work too. 73 Bill AE6JV On 6/23/16 at 6:02 PM, donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) wrote: >For those who ask how to bond to a laptop computer, my answer >is "any way you can" - if you have a jackscrew for a VGA >connector, that is an obvious point - otherwise connecting to >the shell of a USB or HDMI connector may be your only choice - >do the best you can. -------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | There are now so many exceptions to the 408-356-8506 | Fourth Amendment that it operates only by www.pwpconsult.com | accident. - William Hugh Murray From va3mw at portcredit.net Thu Jun 23 21:37:39 2016 From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:37:39 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 fw 2.61 Mic Bias / MIC BTN Message-ID: All On my KX2, I can't seem to change MIC BIAS or MIC BTN settings. Spinning the VFO knob has no affect. I am on 2.61 firmware DSP 1.46. I can change other settings just fine. Anyone else see this? Mike va3mw From tcrayner at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 21:43:53 2016 From: tcrayner at gmail.com (Tom Crayner) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:43:53 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 fw 2.61 Mic Bias / MIC BTN In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7A146AFB-FFE5-4B84-9A72-BD246C90597B@gmail.com> Mike, Do you have a mic plugged in? If not the KX2 is in internal mic mode. Also, make sure you are not in data mode... the KX2 won't let you change some of those settings in data mode. Tom, W2YF > On Jun 23, 2016, at 9:37 PM, Michael Walker wrote: > > All > > On my KX2, I can't seem to change MIC BIAS or MIC BTN settings. > > Spinning the VFO knob has no affect. I am on 2.61 firmware DSP 1.46. > > I can change other settings just fine. > > Anyone else see this? > > Mike va3mw > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to tcrayner at gmail.com From va3mw at portcredit.net Thu Jun 23 21:49:27 2016 From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:49:27 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 fw 2.61 Mic Bias / MIC BTN In-Reply-To: <7A146AFB-FFE5-4B84-9A72-BD246C90597B@gmail.com> References: <7A146AFB-FFE5-4B84-9A72-BD246C90597B@gmail.com> Message-ID: No mic plugged in as it is a Heil mic. However, if I plug in the Heil mic (mono) which puts it into TX, that allows me to change it. I guess it becomes and chicken & egg thing then. :) 73, Mike va3mw On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Tom Crayner wrote: > Mike, > > Do you have a mic plugged in? If not the KX2 is in internal mic mode. > > Also, make sure you are not in data mode... the KX2 won't let you change > some of those settings in data mode. > > Tom, W2YF > > > > > On Jun 23, 2016, at 9:37 PM, Michael Walker > wrote: > > > > All > > > > On my KX2, I can't seem to change MIC BIAS or MIC BTN settings. > > > > Spinning the VFO knob has no affect. I am on 2.61 firmware DSP 1.46. > > > > I can change other settings just fine. > > > > Anyone else see this? > > > > Mike va3mw > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to tcrayner at gmail.com > From tcrayner at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 21:57:45 2016 From: tcrayner at gmail.com (Tom Crayner) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:57:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 fw 2.61 Mic Bias / MIC BTN In-Reply-To: References: <7A146AFB-FFE5-4B84-9A72-BD246C90597B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3C2C3049-2F03-4C15-8C4F-E1D71A35A086@gmail.com> Correct, something has to be plugged into the jack (a mic or soundcard) before the KX2 will let you change those two in particular. Tom, W2YF > On Jun 23, 2016, at 9:49 PM, Michael Walker wrote: > > No mic plugged in as it is a Heil mic. > > However, if I plug in the Heil mic (mono) which puts it into TX, that > allows me to change it. > > I guess it becomes and chicken & egg thing then. :) > > 73, Mike va3mw > >> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Tom Crayner wrote: >> >> Mike, >> >> Do you have a mic plugged in? If not the KX2 is in internal mic mode. >> >> Also, make sure you are not in data mode... the KX2 won't let you change >> some of those settings in data mode. >> >> Tom, W2YF >> >> >> >>> On Jun 23, 2016, at 9:37 PM, Michael Walker >> wrote: >>> >>> All >>> >>> On my KX2, I can't seem to change MIC BIAS or MIC BTN settings. >>> >>> Spinning the VFO knob has no affect. I am on 2.61 firmware DSP 1.46. >>> >>> I can change other settings just fine. >>> >>> Anyone else see this? >>> >>> Mike va3mw >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to tcrayner at gmail.com >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to tcrayner at gmail.com From n6kr at elecraft.com Thu Jun 23 22:01:13 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 19:01:13 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 fw 2.61 Mic Bias / MIC BTN In-Reply-To: References: <7A146AFB-FFE5-4B84-9A72-BD246C90597B@gmail.com> Message-ID: The latest field-test KX2 firmware (2.62) allows all mic and VOX settings to be adjusted regardless of mode or type of mic in use. I'll send it to you. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jun 23, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Michael Walker wrote: > No mic plugged in as it is a Heil mic. > > However, if I plug in the Heil mic (mono) which puts it into TX, that > allows me to change it. > > I guess it becomes and chicken & egg thing then. :) > > 73, Mike va3mw > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Tom Crayner wrote: > >> Mike, >> >> Do you have a mic plugged in? If not the KX2 is in internal mic mode. >> >> Also, make sure you are not in data mode... the KX2 won't let you change >> some of those settings in data mode. >> >> Tom, W2YF >> >> >> >>> On Jun 23, 2016, at 9:37 PM, Michael Walker >> wrote: >>> >>> All >>> >>> On my KX2, I can't seem to change MIC BIAS or MIC BTN settings. >>> >>> Spinning the VFO knob has no affect. I am on 2.61 firmware DSP 1.46. >>> >>> I can change other settings just fine. >>> >>> Anyone else see this? >>> >>> Mike va3mw >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to tcrayner at gmail.com >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From brian.waterworth at gmail.com Thu Jun 23 22:16:46 2016 From: brian.waterworth at gmail.com (Brian Waterworth) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 22:16:46 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Don, Many thanks for your reply. I have read Jim's and your advice and counsel about RFI many times on this reflector and I am very grateful for your response tonight. I will give your advice a try. I have some extra shield cable and can make the runs short between the equipment. For some context on why I went to a common point. I read, what I thought was an excellent article, about ground loops from the Flexradio site a couple of years ago. Here is the link: http://kc.flex-radio.com/knowledgebasearticle50426.aspx I thought that daisy chaining would introduce ground loops and hence the reason I went to a common point. However, I don't think you are advising this. Let me say it back to you: Follow the audio path first and then follow the coax path. For me, - Computer to the kx3 (using the computer's sound card for now) - Then bond the kx3 to the px3 - Then bond the kx3 to the KPA500 (I am borrowing this for FD) - then bond the KPA500 to my antenna tuner - Then bond the antenna tuner to the station ground point - Ground the power supply to the station ground. Again, thanks Don for the advice. I will let everyone know how I do after FD if my results change. regards, Brian VE3IBW On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 9:02 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Brian, > > The answer is *bonding* as described by Jim Brown K9YC for minimizing > noise, hum and buzz. > Connecting everything to a common point may actually make the situation > worse (see the K9YC papers). "Grounding" everything will not minimize > noise, hum and buzz. Mother earth ground is not a 'sink' for RF, noise, > hum or buzz - it is only for safety from AC mains faults or suppression of > surges coming in on your antenna feedline. > > Make your bonding follow the path(s) taken by the shields of your audio > cables and coax and you will have better results. > > In other words, bond the computer to the soundcard device (if included), > and bond that to the KX3. > Bond the KX3 to the PX3, and bond the antenna tuner to the KX3 (following > the path of the coax). > > Then you may bond the antenna tuner to your common ground point for AC > mains safety and lightning protection. > > The reasoning behind this bonding is to conduct much of the noise, hum and > buzz to the *outside* of the equipment enclosures rather than having it > conducted onto the ground plane of the PC boards. > > In the long past, we did not have those problems. Connectors were mounted > on the enclosure chassis, and any noise, hum or buzz would be conducted > onto the outside of the enclosure where it was not likely to cause any harm. > > With modern construction techniques, the connectors are mounted to the PC > board inside the enclosure (and not to the outside of the enclosure). That > means that any noise, hum and buzz that is picked up on the shields of AF > cables or coax will be conducted directly onto the ground plane of the > electronics. The bonding between enclosures in parallel to the audio and > RF paths drastically reduces the coupling of that noise, hum and buzz onto > the circuit board and lets it flow harmlessly onto the outside of the > enclosures. This is the "pin 1 problem" that K9YC refers to. > > If you do equipment to equipment bonding and bond the final element > (amplifier or antenna tuner) to your station ground, everything in the > station will also be grounded - assuming you use heavy wire or strap for > the equipment to equipment bonding - the shield stripped from old RG8 coax > will do nicely as will #12 or larger wire. > > Try it, it works. > > For those who ask how to bond to a laptop computer, my answer is "any way > you can" - if you have a jackscrew for a VGA connector, that is an obvious > point - otherwise connecting to the shell of a USB or HDMI connector may be > your only choice - do the best you can. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > > On 6/23/2016 7:31 PM, Brian Waterworth wrote: > >> I disconnected the USB acc1 cable from the small computer I was planning >> to >> take with me to FD and the noise vanished. Each of the computer, the kx3, >> px3, external power supply, external antenna tuner are all grounded to a >> common point. The exception is the monitor and fan (it's going to be hot >> :-). >> >> >> > From w7ox at socal.rr.com Thu Jun 23 22:37:11 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 19:37:11 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4e32e501-e1d8-dbb3-fc71-f05805973a80@socal.rr.com> What sort of "small computer", Brian? Phil W7OX On 6/23/16 4:31 PM, Brian Waterworth wrote: > In prep for field day, I decided to stage everything last night and also > ran into the same problem as you describe. I re-seated all the cables. No > effect. I turned on the rx shft on the kx3 and the nasty noise shifted > away. Ok, that's good. But not what I wanted. > > I disconnected the USB acc1 cable from the small computer I was planning to > take with me to FD and the noise vanished. Each of the computer, the kx3, > px3, external power supply, external antenna tuner are all grounded to a > common point. The exception is the monitor and fan (it's going to be hot > :-). > > I connected the same setup using a raspberry pi instead of the small > computer and no noise observed at the tuned frequency. Drat. > > So, I am thinking of buying a powered USB hub to try and isolate the USB > acc1 cable plugged into the PX3. Seems as thought the small computer I was > going to use is picking up the internal IF and bringing it back into the > PX3, KX3 via the USB acc1 cable. > > regards, > Brian > VE3IBW > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Sanger, Joseph > wrote: > >> I have developed a new problem with my PX3, which has been quietly sitting >> in a case for the past 6 months. >> >> Whenever I tune across the display, there is a slowly rising spike at the >> base frequency (for instance, in USB mode this spike adheres to the left >> hand edge of the bandpass indicator on PX3 screeen), takes about 2-3 >> seconds or so to increase in intensity, and then dwarfs any of the signals >> on the band. This spike tracks across as I tune; it is there whether or >> not the antenna is connected. I can tune to stations and hear them fine, >> but the display is barely usable because of this very tall spike that won't >> go away. I reseated my cables connecting the PX3 to KX3, with no change in >> behavior. I have no other cables here to swap them out, and am kind of >> stuck >> >> I have updated b both KX3 and PX3 to latest firmware, with no change in >> behavior. >> >> Any thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated. >> >> --Joe >> --WB2SSB From rmbayer62 at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 00:09:19 2016 From: rmbayer62 at gmail.com (Robin Bayer) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 23:09:19 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K2s Message-ID: For casual CW, the K2 sounds and performs. Sometimes I daydream about a K2s upgrade kit. Finer tuning, encoder controls, Band memories, all those aftermarket mic, level out, an 1/8 phone jack, modern internal battery. Oh and easily adjustable DSP filtering. A K3 is out of my range, well maybe a well used one someday. For QRP contesting, and scanning the bands for signals, nothing beats the KX3, Win4K3 and a good sound card for the Pan adapter. During CWT the signals were tight, but hardly a click with the filter tightened. A great value. Building most of the accessories for my K2/10 and almost all worked immediately! I am still pleased to share it in my station report during rag chews. Anyway, Thanks Eleccraft team the fine rigs. Robin KA5QQA K1. sold to buy a K2 KX1 sold to buy a k2 K2 KX3 From yo3gjc at yahoo.com Fri Jun 24 00:56:06 2016 From: yo3gjc at yahoo.com (VE3GNO Daniel) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 04:56:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1862576049.768167.1466744166395.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Ahaa....interesant. Azi mergem la?nunta? Vad ca se casatoresc Brexit si Gerusia...la sfat loool ?vy 73 de VE3GNO Daniel From: "Sanger, Joseph" To: 'Phil Wheeler' ; "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away First thing that I tried, Phil, but thanks for the reply. From: Phil Wheeler [mailto:w7ox at socal.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 11:08 AM To: Sanger, Joseph; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away Re-seat the cables to the the PX3? Phil W7OX On 6/23/16 7:58 AM, Sanger, Joseph wrote: I have developed a new problem with my PX3, which has been quietly sitting in a case for the past 6 months. Whenever I tune across the display, there is a slowly rising spike at the base frequency (for instance, in USB mode this spike adheres to the left hand edge of the bandpass indicator on PX3 screeen), takes about 2-3 seconds or so to increase in intensity, and then dwarfs any of the signals on the band.? This spike tracks across as I tune; it is there whether or not the antenna is connected.? I can tune to stations and hear them fine, but the display is barely usable because of this very tall spike that won't go away.? I reseated my cables connecting the PX3 to KX3, with no change in behavior.? I have no other cables here to swap them out, and am kind of stuck I have updated b both KX3 and PX3 to latest firmware, with no change in behavior. Any thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated. --Joe --WB2SSB ------------------------------------------------------------ This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender by return email and delete the original message. Please note, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The organization accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ================================= ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net/ Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to yo3gjc at yahoo.com From brian.waterworth at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 06:08:08 2016 From: brian.waterworth at gmail.com (Brian Waterworth) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 06:08:08 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away In-Reply-To: <4e32e501-e1d8-dbb3-fc71-f05805973a80@socal.rr.com> References: <4e32e501-e1d8-dbb3-fc71-f05805973a80@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Hi Phil, It is a Stealth. I picked it up used at a flea market. Mine is an older model no longer supported, but it works really well. Perfect pairing for the KX3/PX3 due to its size and ability to run off of 12V. https://www.stealth.com/littlepcs/fanless-mini-pcs/ regards, Brian VE3IBW On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > What sort of "small computer", Brian? > > Phil W7OX > > > On 6/23/16 4:31 PM, Brian Waterworth wrote: > >> In prep for field day, I decided to stage everything last night and also >> ran into the same problem as you describe. I re-seated all the cables. >> No >> effect. I turned on the rx shft on the kx3 and the nasty noise shifted >> away. Ok, that's good. But not what I wanted. >> >> I disconnected the USB acc1 cable from the small computer I was planning >> to >> take with me to FD and the noise vanished. Each of the computer, the kx3, >> px3, external power supply, external antenna tuner are all grounded to a >> common point. The exception is the monitor and fan (it's going to be hot >> :-). >> >> I connected the same setup using a raspberry pi instead of the small >> computer and no noise observed at the tuned frequency. Drat. >> >> So, I am thinking of buying a powered USB hub to try and isolate the USB >> acc1 cable plugged into the PX3. Seems as thought the small computer I >> was >> going to use is picking up the internal IF and bringing it back into the >> PX3, KX3 via the USB acc1 cable. >> >> regards, >> Brian >> VE3IBW >> >> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Sanger, Joseph > > >> wrote: >> >> I have developed a new problem with my PX3, which has been quietly sitting >>> in a case for the past 6 months. >>> >>> Whenever I tune across the display, there is a slowly rising spike at the >>> base frequency (for instance, in USB mode this spike adheres to the left >>> hand edge of the bandpass indicator on PX3 screeen), takes about 2-3 >>> seconds or so to increase in intensity, and then dwarfs any of the >>> signals >>> on the band. This spike tracks across as I tune; it is there whether or >>> not the antenna is connected. I can tune to stations and hear them fine, >>> but the display is barely usable because of this very tall spike that >>> won't >>> go away. I reseated my cables connecting the PX3 to KX3, with no change >>> in >>> behavior. I have no other cables here to swap them out, and am kind of >>> stuck >>> >>> I have updated b both KX3 and PX3 to latest firmware, with no change in >>> behavior. >>> >>> Any thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated. >>> >>> --Joe >>> --WB2SSB >>> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to brian.waterworth at gmail.com > From wa2si at arrl.net Fri Jun 24 06:37:50 2016 From: wa2si at arrl.net (Bert Craig) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 06:37:50 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2s In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There are some who have stated that they prefer the "sound" of the K2's receive over the K3. Subjective? Sure, but the endorsement stands nonetheless. I too absolutely love my K1 & K2/100. Vy 73 de Bert WA2SI Sent from my android device. -----Original Message----- From: Robin Bayer To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Sent: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 12:09 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K2s For casual CW, the K2 sounds and performs. Sometimes I daydream about a K2s upgrade kit. Finer tuning, encoder controls, Band memories, all those aftermarket mic, level out, an 1/8 phone jack, modern internal battery. Oh and easily adjustable DSP filtering. A K3 is out of my range, well maybe a well used one someday. For QRP contesting, and scanning the bands for signals, nothing beats the KX3, Win4K3 and a good sound card for the Pan adapter. During CWT the signals were tight, but hardly a click with the filter tightened. A great value. Building most of the accessories for my K2/10 and almost all worked immediately! I am still pleased to share it in my station report during rag chews. Anyway, Thanks Eleccraft team the fine rigs. Robin KA5QQA K1. sold to buy a K2 KX1 sold to buy a k2 K2 KX3 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wa2si at arrl.net From ppauly at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 09:03:22 2016 From: ppauly at gmail.com (Peter Pauly) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 09:03:22 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Getting a KXPA100 to work with a KX2 Message-ID: I just finished putting together a KXPA100 with ATU. I've got the KX2 connected to it via a KXPACBL connected to the accessory jack on the KX2 and the CAT5 cable on the amp. The smaller GPIO plug is unconnected. Also the BNC of the KX2 is connected to the RF IN on the amp. I put the KX2 in PA Mode YES and can dial up the power to 100 Watts on the KX2. KX2 mode is CW. KXPA100 is in Auto ATU mode, ANT 1. The transmit light on the KXPA100 never comes on. If I hit the Tune button on the KX2, it shows at solid 25 Power Out LED and a 1 SWR LED. If I hit the XMIT button on the KX2, nothing happens on the KXPA100. If I hit the Tune button on the button on the KXPA100, I get a flashing 25 LED (SWR?) on both a known good antenna and a 50 ohm dummy load. Any suggestions before I contact Elecraft technical support? From w7ox at socal.rr.com Fri Jun 24 10:32:50 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 07:32:50 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K2s In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4794c693-536d-e424-c926-60e95b0e24a1@socal.rr.com> Robin, Since you have a KX3, why the K2? In what ways (other than the fun of building it!) do you find the K2 better than the KX3 -- unless you have the K2/100? I have K2/100, KX3, K3/100, etc. and my K2/100 is currently not in use. Maybe I'll get it set up now that I have a second operating location. 73, Phil W7OX On 6/23/16 9:09 PM, Robin Bayer wrote: > For casual CW, the K2 sounds and performs. Sometimes I daydream about a > K2s upgrade kit. Finer tuning, encoder controls, Band memories, all those > aftermarket mic, level out, an 1/8 phone jack, modern internal battery. Oh > and easily adjustable DSP filtering. > > A K3 is out of my range, well maybe a well used one someday. > > For QRP contesting, and scanning the bands for signals, nothing beats the > KX3, Win4K3 and a good sound card for the Pan adapter. During CWT the > signals were tight, but hardly a click with the filter tightened. A great > value. > > Building most of the accessories for my K2/10 and almost all worked > immediately! I am still pleased to share it in my station report during > rag chews. > > Anyway, Thanks Eleccraft team the fine rigs. > > Robin > KA5QQA > > K1. sold to buy a K2 > KX1 sold to buy a k2 > K2 > KX3 From cautery at montac.com Fri Jun 24 10:50:42 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 09:50:42 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away In-Reply-To: References: <4e32e501-e1d8-dbb3-fc71-f05805973a80@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <3b8b550f-1c50-7cd9-b554-b50afc9b27dd@montac.com> You just HAD to make me aware of this companies existence.... ;) Nice products... ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 6/24/2016 5:08 AM, Brian Waterworth wrote: > Hi Phil, > > It is a Stealth. I picked it up used at a flea market. Mine is an older > model no longer supported, but it works really well. Perfect pairing for > the KX3/PX3 due to its size and ability to run off of 12V. > > https://www.stealth.com/littlepcs/fanless-mini-pcs/ > > regards, > Brian > VE3IBW > From cautery at montac.com Fri Jun 24 10:56:02 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 09:56:02 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away In-Reply-To: <3b8b550f-1c50-7cd9-b554-b50afc9b27dd@montac.com> References: <4e32e501-e1d8-dbb3-fc71-f05805973a80@socal.rr.com> <3b8b550f-1c50-7cd9-b554-b50afc9b27dd@montac.com> Message-ID: <39a7b383-56d6-ba49-d3e8-d1ab3e0ef064@montac.com> companies --> company's WW, -5 points, Ouch, I don't usually make such glaring grammatical errors. Apologize... ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 6/24/2016 9:50 AM, Clay Autery wrote: > You just HAD to make me aware of this companies existence.... ;) > Nice products... > > ______________________ > Clay Autery, KY5G > MONTAC Enterprises > (318) 518-1389 > > On 6/24/2016 5:08 AM, Brian Waterworth wrote: >> Hi Phil, >> >> It is a Stealth. I picked it up used at a flea market. Mine is an older >> model no longer supported, but it works really well. Perfect pairing for >> the KX3/PX3 due to its size and ability to run off of 12V. >> >> https://www.stealth.com/littlepcs/fanless-mini-pcs/ >> >> regards, >> Brian >> VE3IBW >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to cautery at montac.com From ppauly at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 11:24:45 2016 From: ppauly at gmail.com (Peter Pauly) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 11:24:45 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Getting a KXPA100 to work with a KX2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The Y adapter was the part I didn't have correct. Thanks Richard, it's working now. On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Richard Jones wrote: > Had the same problem. There is a 'y' adapter that goes from the 2 > cables coming from the KXPA100 into a single plug into the accessory > connection on the KX2. The cable is called the KX2ACBL. Using it and > everything works correctly. You also have to go into Menu setup and turn > PA mode to on. > > Enjoy > > Dick W0PZD. > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:03 AM, Peter Pauly wrote: > >> I just finished putting together a KXPA100 with ATU. I've got the KX2 >> connected to it via a KXPACBL connected to the accessory jack on the KX2 >> and the CAT5 cable on the amp. The smaller GPIO plug is unconnected. Also >> the BNC of the KX2 is connected to the RF IN on the amp. I put the KX2 in >> PA Mode YES and can dial up the power to 100 Watts on the KX2. KX2 mode >> is >> CW. KXPA100 is in Auto ATU mode, ANT 1. >> >> The transmit light on the KXPA100 never comes on. >> >> If I hit the Tune button on the KX2, it shows at solid 25 Power Out LED >> and >> a 1 SWR LED. >> If I hit the XMIT button on the KX2, nothing happens on the KXPA100. >> If I hit the Tune button on the button on the KXPA100, I get a flashing 25 >> LED (SWR?) on both a known good antenna and a 50 ohm dummy load. >> >> Any suggestions before I contact Elecraft technical support? >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to w0pzd at juno.com >> > > From brucemacb at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 11:32:09 2016 From: brucemacb at gmail.com (G4ABX) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 08:32:09 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Sharing K3s I/O between devices Message-ID: <1466782329218-7619227.post@n2.nabble.com> Good afternoon all. I have just implemented a Remote Rig Setup which is working, more or less. (No PTT on Mic for some reason) My Control Station consists of a K3s, P3, MicroKeyer II, StationMaster, Remote Rig Box, 1K-FA, Rotator control and a Logging PC (MAC running MLDX) Every time I use the RemoteRig setup to control my remote station (a K3, P3, Microkeyer II, RRC) I have to mostly disconnect my 'Normal' Station and switch MIC, KEY, PTT, etc from the K3s to the RRC. This is a pain -- and I've already broken cables after multiple connects/disconnects which have led to hours of frustration trying to find out what didn't work any more?! My ideal scenario would to simply 'Plumb in' the RemoteRig box into my existing K3, MicroKeyer II, StationMaster, 1K-FA set up so the only action needed by me was to hold the MENU button of the K3s to switch the rig into Terminal mode. I guess it comes down to whether all the elements can share the K3 ports of various types? Has anyone done this? Is this possible or is this fantasy? 73 Bruce G4ABX -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Sharing-K3s-I-O-between-devices-tp7619227.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ARDUJENSKI at aol.com Fri Jun 24 11:36:46 2016 From: ARDUJENSKI at aol.com (ARDUJENSKI at aol.com) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 11:36:46 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] ALAN WILCOX Message-ID: <5dd4d.5b2a117e.449ead8d@aol.com> Alan Do you still have some pictures available? I purchased a K2 with EC2 with amp and tuner installed but no info from the previous owner how to connect the two. i found your post online. Do you still have the pictures?: =============POSTED ON ELECRAFT LIST======= Paul, A picture is always helpful, so I posted some photos up on my site so you can see what the combination looks like. See http://wilcoxengineering.com/amateur-radio/kpa100inec2 Hope it helps! Alan ============== Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX 570-321-1516 _http://WilcoxEngineering.com_ (http://wilcoxengineering.com/) Williamsport, PA 17701 ======================= ALAN KB7MBI From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Fri Jun 24 11:37:37 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 08:37:37 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu,6/23/2016 7:16 PM, Brian Waterworth wrote: > For some context on why I went to a common point. I read, what I thought > was an excellent article, about ground loops from the Flexradio site a > couple of years ago. Here is the link: > http://kc.flex-radio.com/knowledgebasearticle50426.aspx > > I thought that daisy chaining would introduce ground loops and hence the > reason I went to a common point. Look at your equipment -- there is already a "daisy-chained" loop between equipment in the form of those audio cables and coax. The problem, as Don notes, is that they often don't go to the chassis, but rather to the circuit board, which couples hum, buzz, and RFI into and out of equipment. This is "The Pin One Problem," first identified by pro audio engineer Neil Muncy (W3WJE, SK) in 1994. Virtually all ham gear, including Flex and Elecraft, has Pin One Problems at audio and control connectors. > However, I don't think you are advising this. Brian, Study my slides that Don referenced. The concept of a "ground loop" as a cause of hum, buzz, and RFI is false, and causes people to do the WRONG things to solve such problems. The slides show the TRUE cause, which is leakage current from the AC power system. The ONLY way in which a "loop" is problematic is that it provides a path for magnetic coupling between victim equipment and a strong magnetic field produced by a noise source. Two common sources are 1) the stray fields produced by big power transformers, and 2) a wiring error in home power wiring called a "double-bonded neutral," where the neutral is bonded to the green wire somewhere other than the point where power enters the building. In both cases, the interference is heard as HUM (pure 60 Hz) rather than BUZZ (harmonics of 60 Hz). 73, Jim K9YC From n3ikq at yahoo.com Fri Jun 24 12:21:11 2016 From: n3ikq at yahoo.com (rick jones) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 16:21:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] CW Key Recommendation References: <761649999.1087345.1466785271323.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <761649999.1087345.1466785271323.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Could someone recommend a?desktop key that is close to the?size and action of the key attached to the KX3??This Advanced class ham has?not sent code in decades and?I would like to start sending on my K3?so?can someday use a KX?on?CW from a remote location.?I will be practically starting from scratch but I'm guessing there's no reason to start with a straight key right? Thanks for your thoughts! Rick N3IKQ From wrcooke at yahoo.com Fri Jun 24 12:37:37 2016 From: wrcooke at yahoo.com (WILLIS COOKE) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 16:37:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] CW Key Recommendation In-Reply-To: <761649999.1087345.1466785271323.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <761649999.1087345.1466785271323.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <761649999.1087345.1466785271323.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <32220664.808419.1466786257924.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> As a long term member of SKCC (Straight Key Century Club) I offer the following reasons.? It is more fun, it allows easier speed diversity, it is traditional.? If your objective is to strictly send the best CW possible as easy as possible, type it on a keyboard and use a computer.? If you want to come as close as possible using hand generated code, use a set of paddles of your choice.? My choice is a Bencher Hex.? If you want to do it the hard way, start with a Straight Key and work up to a Bug.? It will be more fun.? What ever method you use, get started with what you have, can beg, borrow or steal, you will not regret it!? If this does not satisfy or run you off, contact me and I will give you more info after? Field Day, meanwhile, join a club at Field Day and expect at least as many opinions as operators you contact.Willis 'Cookie' Cooke,K5EWJ, SKCC 4077S From: rick jones via Elecraft To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 11:21 AM Subject: [Elecraft] CW Key Recommendation Could someone recommend a?desktop key that is close to the?size and action of the key attached to the KX3??This Advanced class ham has?not sent code in decades and?I would like to start sending on my K3?so?can someday use a KX?on?CW from a remote location.?I will be practically starting from scratch but I'm guessing there's no reason to start with a straight key right? Thanks for your thoughts! Rick N3IKQ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net/ Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wrcooke at yahoo.com From ns9i2016 at Bayland.net Fri Jun 24 12:46:25 2016 From: ns9i2016 at Bayland.net ('DGB') Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 11:46:25 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Sharing K3s I/O between devices In-Reply-To: <1466782329218-7619227.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1466782329218-7619227.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <828ce394-da48-27c8-3b23-62d46abbc377@Bayland.net> I recommend you calling Brandon at Elecraft. I promise he will be able to get you going quicker then anyone else. 73 Dwight NS9I On 6/24/2016 10:32 AM, G4ABX wrote: > Good afternoon all. > I have just implemented a Remote Rig Setup which is working, more or less. > (No PTT on Mic for some reason) > My Control Station consists of a K3s, P3, MicroKeyer II, StationMaster, > Remote Rig Box, 1K-FA, Rotator control and a Logging PC (MAC running MLDX) > > Every time I use the RemoteRig setup to control my remote station (a K3, P3, > Microkeyer II, RRC) I have to mostly disconnect my 'Normal' Station and > switch MIC, KEY, PTT, etc from the K3s to the RRC. This is a pain -- and > I've already broken cables after multiple connects/disconnects which have > led to hours of frustration trying to find out what didn't work any more?! > > My ideal scenario would to simply 'Plumb in' the RemoteRig box into my > existing K3, MicroKeyer II, StationMaster, 1K-FA set up so the only action > needed by me was to hold the MENU button of the K3s to switch the rig into > Terminal mode. > > I guess it comes down to whether all the elements can share the K3 ports of > various types? > Has anyone done this? > > Is this possible or is this fantasy? > > 73 > Bruce G4ABX > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Sharing-K3s-I-O-between-devices-tp7619227.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ns9i2016 at bayland.net > > From w7ox at socal.rr.com Fri Jun 24 12:53:48 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 09:53:48 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Key Recommendation In-Reply-To: <761649999.1087345.1466785271323.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <761649999.1087345.1466785271323.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <761649999.1087345.1466785271323.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8c5369b8-e226-2a00-a0ba-61da482f129e@socal.rr.com> Rick, Re "a desktop key that is close to the size and action of the key attached to the KX3": That's your core question, it appears. Size-wise the Begali Adventure is likely close, but action-wise likely not. It can be a desktop key on the right base. But price is likely prohibitive for what you have in mind. Perhaps Wayne will weigh in. 73, Phil W7OX On 6/24/16 9:21 AM, rick jones via Elecraft wrote: > Could someone recommend a desktop key that is close to the size and action of the key attached to the KX3? This Advanced class ham has not sent code in decades and I would like to start sending on my K3 so can someday use a KX on CW from a remote location. I will be practically starting from scratch but I'm guessing there's no reason to start with a straight key right? Thanks for your thoughts! Rick N3IKQ From kevin at k4vd.net Fri Jun 24 13:17:04 2016 From: kevin at k4vd.net (Kevin - K4VD) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 13:17:04 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Key Recommendation In-Reply-To: <8c5369b8-e226-2a00-a0ba-61da482f129e@socal.rr.com> References: <761649999.1087345.1466785271323.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <761649999.1087345.1466785271323.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <8c5369b8-e226-2a00-a0ba-61da482f129e@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: ?I wonder if trying to match the size and action are really that important. Once you have say Iambic-B down on one set of paddles then moving to another set is not a real challenge I think. A few minutes warm-up and away you go. The Begali Adventure is a beautiful key. I own other Begali keys and easily swap from the Sculpture to the ?KXPD3. Someday I'll own an Adventure I think. I wonder if someone might come up with a base for the KXPD3 where it can be used off the radio? That would make a fine option if you want to practice with a similar key. :) Now I wish I had some metalworking skills. Also, as a long term SKCC member (605T) I will second Willis' comment. Straight keys are a blast. Bugs are even more fun! But I know that's not what you asked... just a little plug for the alternatives. 73 and enjoy! Kev / K4VD On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > Rick, > > Re "a desktop key that is close to the size and action of the key attached > to the KX3": That's your core question, it appears. > > Size-wise the Begali Adventure is likely close, but action-wise likely > not. It can be a desktop key on the right base. But price is likely > prohibitive for what you have in mind. > > Perhaps Wayne will weigh in. > > 73, Phil W7OX > > > On 6/24/16 9:21 AM, rick jones via Elecraft wrote: > >> Could someone recommend a desktop key that is close to the size and >> action of the key attached to the KX3? This Advanced class ham has not sent >> code in decades and I would like to start sending on my K3 so can someday >> use a KX on CW from a remote location. I will be practically starting from >> scratch but I'm guessing there's no reason to start with a straight key >> right? Thanks for your thoughts! Rick N3IKQ >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevin at k4vd.net > From ron at cobi.biz Fri Jun 24 13:48:54 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:48:54 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Key Recommendation In-Reply-To: References: <761649999.1087345.1466785271323.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <761649999.1087345.1466785271323.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <8c5369b8-e226-2a00-a0ba-61da482f129e@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <004b01d1ce40$ad4e1760$07ea4620$@biz> It's smart to practice on an Elecraft rig. What seems to bother most Hams is not the key so much as the keyer and whether or not you want to become proficient at Iambic (squeeze) keying. There are two common modes of Iambic keyer operation and, depending upon the keyer implementation, they sometimes behave slightly differently. Elecraft has been very consistent in the keyer implementation, but be aware that you can select Mode A or Mode B in the menu. Stick with one or the other if you are practicing Iambic keying. Using the paddles in "bug" mode (no squeeze action) is much less dependent upon the keyer, but Iambic keying is very much worthwhile to learn if you are going to do much actual "brass pounding". Personally, I don't think the paddles themselves make much difference for learning. The basics can be learned on a wide variety of simple, inexpensive paddles. Later on you can take advantage of the smooth action of the Elecraft paddles once your basic skills are well in hand. Others have brought up avoiding the paddles altogether and starting with a straight key. It's hard to pass up the nicely-integrated paddles in one of the portable Elecraft rigs but if you are curious about a straight key, learning to use it correctly makes all the difference between fun and frustration. Here is an old film showing how the US Navy and US Army taught use of the straight key back in WWII. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQyP7VJqvqE This is a general introduction for military radiomen. The discussion of the key itself starts about 1 minute into the film. It's how I was taught and allowed me to send for very long periods of time without fatigue, just as they state. I still enjoy grabbing my J-38 key (as shown in the film) when QSOing below 20 wpm. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- > On 6/24/16 9:21 AM, rick jones via Elecraft wrote: > >> Could someone recommend a desktop key that is close to the size and >> action of the key attached to the KX3? This Advanced class ham has >> not sent code in decades and I would like to start sending on my K3 >> so can someday use a KX on CW from a remote location. I will be >> practically starting from scratch but I'm guessing there's no reason >> to start with a straight key right? Thanks for your thoughts! Rick >> N3IKQ >> From eric_csuf at hotmail.com Fri Jun 24 13:49:54 2016 From: eric_csuf at hotmail.com (EricJ) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:49:54 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K2s In-Reply-To: <4794c693-536d-e424-c926-60e95b0e24a1@socal.rr.com> References: <4794c693-536d-e424-c926-60e95b0e24a1@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: In my case, the form factor is a huge consideration. Having the knobs on the top makes sense for a trail-friendly radio that sits on your lap or a nearby rock, but it is not, at least for me, the best ergonomics for a base station. Putting it on a plastic tilting stand doesn't change that. Cabling is another big factor. I like cables coming out the rear, not sprouting from all sides. It makes sense on a TFR, but not so much in a base station where other gear abuts it. Believe me, I'm not knocking the KX3 as I've never owned or operated one. I've never even seen one except in pictures. I had a KX1 and it was always the last radio I picked up to take camping. (K1 was the first). It was more of a hangar queen for me. I just never enjoyed using it, but I never really used it as a trail-friendly radio which is what it was designed to be. The K1 was much more comfortable to use sitting in a campsite tuning the radio while I poked at the campfire. Based on form factor, the KX3 was never a consideration for me and neither is the KX2 (certainly the ultimate TRF) for the same reason. I have two K2/10s with KPA/KATU in EC2 box (SN567 and 6911), and just about every internal accessory. I didn't build any of it so the fun of building is irrelevant to me. I like them because they are very competent, reliable, wonderfully supported, even traditional radios that suit me. That's enough. Eric KE6US On 6/24/2016 7:32 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > Robin, > > Since you have a KX3, why the K2? In what ways (other than the fun of > building it!) do you find the K2 better than the KX3 -- unless you > have the K2/100? > > I have K2/100, KX3, K3/100, etc. and my K2/100 is currently not in > use. Maybe I'll get it set up now that I have a second operating > location. > > 73, Phil W7OX > > On 6/23/16 9:09 PM, Robin Bayer wrote: >> For casual CW, the K2 sounds and performs. Sometimes I daydream about a >> K2s upgrade kit. Finer tuning, encoder controls, Band memories, all >> those >> aftermarket mic, level out, an 1/8 phone jack, modern internal >> battery. Oh >> and easily adjustable DSP filtering. >> >> A K3 is out of my range, well maybe a well used one someday. >> >> For QRP contesting, and scanning the bands for signals, nothing beats >> the >> KX3, Win4K3 and a good sound card for the Pan adapter. During CWT the >> signals were tight, but hardly a click with the filter tightened. A >> great >> value. >> >> Building most of the accessories for my K2/10 and almost all worked >> immediately! I am still pleased to share it in my station report during >> rag chews. >> >> Anyway, Thanks Eleccraft team the fine rigs. >> >> Robin >> KA5QQA >> >> K1. sold to buy a K2 >> KX1 sold to buy a k2 >> K2 >> KX3 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric_csuf at hotmail.com > > From tim at sy-edm.com Fri Jun 24 14:06:30 2016 From: tim at sy-edm.com (a45wg) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 22:06:30 +0400 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from IF Output Message-ID: Fellow Elecrafters, I have been experimenting with using the IF out from my K3-S to feed an SDR Radio which will in turn allow me to perform some real time signals analysis (including but not only cw-skimmer). I have got the setup working using some cheap RTL-SDR?s which are not designed for HF bands (but with slightly different firmware can be make to sort of work - down to 20 Mhz they are bearable). Is anyone else doing this - I would appreciate some feedback (preferably positive) regarding more suitable SDR receivers ?? Please feel free to PM me - I shall post back the boiled down wisdom?. 73s and thanks Tim - A45WG From eric_csuf at hotmail.com Fri Jun 24 14:33:01 2016 From: eric_csuf at hotmail.com (EricJ) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 11:33:01 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Key Recommendation In-Reply-To: <761649999.1087345.1466785271323.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <761649999.1087345.1466785271323.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <761649999.1087345.1466785271323.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I don't think it matters that what you practice on matches the KX3 key either. Almost any paddle that is comfortable for you should be fine. There's a difference between dual and single lever paddles, but even then, if you learn on one, it won't take much to adapt to something else. Dual levers are needed for so-called iambic keying. Single levers can't be used for that, but they work exactly the same except you can't do squeeze keying for alternating dits/dahs. Take a look at this: http://www.morsex.com/pubs/iambicmyth.pdf That site is a great source of info on keys and will let you compare a large number of them. You can use ANY electronic keyer without ever learning squeeze keying or even knowing it exists. You can ignore Iambic A vs B in your KX3 as they are irrelevant if you don't use squeeze keying. No need to start with a straight key, however, it will teach you more about proper timing than an electronic keyer, and that will translate to better timing on an electronic keyer. You're relearning a skill, not how to operate a specific device. If you skip the straight key, you skip a very useful, traditional and interesting skill. You can also skip learning a bug, but it is a fascinating device and another interesting skill. In almost 60 years I've gone from straight key to occasional bug to electronic keyer to straight key to bug. Currently, I'm about 95% bug using a lefthanded homebrew one I made several months ago. I can switch with relative ease, sometimes within the same QSO from that bug to my commercial righthanded bugs to a straight key to the internal K2 keyer. Your brain works it all out with only a little effort to shake off the rust. You'll easily adapt from almost any paddle to the KX3 paddle in no time once you regain your skill with one of them. Eric KE6US SKCC 86 On 6/24/2016 9:21 AM, rick jones via Elecraft wrote: > Could someone recommend a desktop key that is close to the size and action of the key attached to the KX3? This Advanced class ham has not sent code in decades and I would like to start sending on my K3 so can someday use a KX on CW from a remote location. I will be practically starting from scratch but I'm guessing there's no reason to start with a straight key right? Thanks for your thoughts! Rick N3IKQ > From w2blc at nycap.rr.com Fri Jun 24 14:34:17 2016 From: w2blc at nycap.rr.com (Bill) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 14:34:17 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Key Recommendation In-Reply-To: <004b01d1ce40$ad4e1760$07ea4620$@biz> References: <004b01d1ce40$ad4e1760$07ea4620$@biz> Message-ID: Long arm keys, typically those found in maritime service, are the most pleasant of the straight keys to use. They are expensive. An inexpensive alternative is the Czech key seen at: http://www.uv3r.com/CzechMorseKeys/ has a nice feel also. They can be found from $25 to $60 on the Internet. Their good action is due to their folded long-arm design. I have one and it is my straight key of preference. If you go for a bug, nothing beats the VizBug at: http://vizkey.com/order.html#90degreevizbug It is a small and very quiet bug (no thrashing machine noises). I have a Vibroplex single lever paddle that I have been using since the early 60s. Perfect for a normal keyer (don't care much for the one in the K3). I have never used a two paddle anything - so no comments about them. Want to learn more about keys and CW operation in general? Take a look at: http://radiotelegraphy.net/ I have no business interests in any of the above and really don't care if you choose an Amplidan or just tap two bare wires together - both of which will get the same job done. Bill W2BLC K-Line From k6dgw at foothill.net Fri Jun 24 14:34:05 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 11:34:05 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Key Recommendation In-Reply-To: <761649999.1087345.1466785271323.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <761649999.1087345.1466785271323.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <761649999.1087345.1466785271323.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: American Morse Equipment has a variety of small paddles. I have their porta-paddle mounted on my field ops clipboard with Super-Velcro, and it works great. Not sure why you want a small one like the KX3 however, you'll have to figure out how to hold it down. It's hard to beat a Bencher BY-1 ... cost-wise, you can buy several for the price of a Begali . It takes a bit of adjustment to get it right for you but the wrench to do so comes with it. Your K3 does Iambic-A and -B, pick one. I've never found an obvious advantage to Iambic and don't use it, but be advised, -B sends a trailing dit all by itself under some circumstances. Regarding starting on a straight key: That subject is in the top five subjects in ham radio that have migrated directly and completely into a religion -- with arguments pro, con, and ambivalence extending to infinity. :-) Do whatever you feel comfortable with. If your goal is to converse using Morse at speeds above 12-15 WPM, better start with a paddle and keyer. If you are prone to carpal tunnel syndrome [formerly called "glass arm"], go directly to paddle, do not pass GO, and do not collect $200. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org On 6/24/2016 9:21 AM, rick jones via Elecraft wrote: > Could someone recommend a desktop key that is close to the size and > action of the key attached to the KX3? This Advanced class ham has > not sent code in decades and I would like to start sending on my K3 > so can someday use a KX on CW from a remote location. I will be > practically starting from scratch but I'm guessing there's no reason > to start with a straight key right? Thanks for your thoughts! Rick > N3IKQ ______________________________________________________________ From jermo at carolinaheli.com Fri Jun 24 15:04:01 2016 From: jermo at carolinaheli.com (Jerry Moore) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 15:04:01 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from IF Output In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <010c01d1ce4b$2c672000$85356000$@carolinaheli.com> +1 add me to the conversation please. -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of a45wg Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 2:07 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from IF Output Fellow Elecrafters, I have been experimenting with using the IF out from my K3-S to feed an SDR Radio which will in turn allow me to perform some real time signals analysis (including but not only cw-skimmer). I have got the setup working using some cheap RTL-SDR?s which are not designed for HF bands (but with slightly different firmware can be make to sort of work - down to 20 Mhz they are bearable). Is anyone else doing this - I would appreciate some feedback (preferably positive) regarding more suitable SDR receivers ?? Please feel free to PM me - I shall post back the boiled down wisdom?. 73s and thanks Tim - A45WG ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jermo at carolinaheli.com From tomb18 at videotron.ca Fri Jun 24 15:17:34 2016 From: tomb18 at videotron.ca (tomb18) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 15:17:34 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from IF Output Message-ID: HiWin4K3Suite just starting supporting the SDRPLAY device. The device works quite well offering 1.8 Mhz bandwidth from the if out. It covers 10 khz to 2.1 ghz.73 Tom?va2fsq.com Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message --------From: Jerry Moore Date: 2016-06-24 3:04 PM (GMT-05:00) To: 'a45wg' , elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from IF Output +1 add me to the conversation please. -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of a45wg Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 2:07 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from IF Output Fellow Elecrafters, I have been experimenting with using the IF out from my K3-S to feed an SDR Radio which will in turn allow me to perform some real time signals analysis (including but not only cw-skimmer). I have got the setup working using some cheap RTL-SDR?s which are not designed for HF bands (but with slightly different firmware can be make to sort of work - down to 20 Mhz they are bearable). Is anyone else doing this - I would appreciate some feedback (preferably positive) regarding more suitable SDR receivers? ?? Please feel free to PM me - I shall post back the boiled down wisdom?. 73s and thanks Tim - A45WG ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jermo at carolinaheli.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tomb18 at videotron.ca From dave.w0zf at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 15:18:27 2016 From: dave.w0zf at gmail.com (Dave Fugleberg) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 19:18:27 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from IF Output In-Reply-To: <010c01d1ce4b$2c672000$85356000$@carolinaheli.com> References: <010c01d1ce4b$2c672000$85356000$@carolinaheli.com> Message-ID: I bought a SDRPlay from HRO at Dayton, but haven't had a lot of time to play with it yet. From the specs, it looks like it would be much better for that application than the cheap RTL dongles. It's not as cheap as a dongle, but at around $150 US, it's cheap enough to experiment with. I think I paid about $139 on sale at Dayton. I know that many folks are using them for panadapter with the K3. I may try that out too, but I just got a P3 so I'm kinda spoiled already :) On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 2:04 PM Jerry Moore wrote: > +1 add me to the conversation please. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of > a45wg > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 2:07 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from IF Output > > Fellow Elecrafters, > I have been experimenting with using the IF out from my > K3-S to feed an SDR Radio which will in turn allow me to perform some real > time signals analysis (including but not only cw-skimmer). I have got the > setup working using some cheap RTL-SDR?s which are not designed for HF > bands (but with slightly different firmware can be make to sort of work - > down to 20 Mhz they are bearable). > > Is anyone else doing this - I would appreciate some feedback > (preferably positive) regarding more suitable SDR receivers ?? > > Please feel free to PM me - I shall post back the boiled down > wisdom?. > > 73s and thanks > > Tim - A45WG > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jermo at carolinaheli.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dave.w0zf at gmail.com From tomb18 at videotron.ca Fri Jun 24 16:10:13 2016 From: tomb18 at videotron.ca (tomb18) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 16:10:13 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from IF Output Message-ID: The sdrplay is ?12 bit so it does not have the dynamic range of lppan and a sound card. That being said I do not see much difference. One ting you will notice is that having such a wide bandwidth does at times give strange behaviours. For example, if I tune to a certain frequency and then use 1.8 Mhz some peaks may not be visible far ?from the center frequency but then if I tune up or down a few hertz they shiw up and at the same time a click is heard from the k3. I presume bandpass filters may be kicking in. For the full amateur bands, I generally do not see this behaviour.Win4k3 also down samples automatically to maintain resolution.the current api for sdrplay has a minimum sampling rate of 2000000 samples per second. So you need to sample at a high rate and then downsample at the same time with fir filters, so cpu use goes up.The next release of the sdrplay api has built in lower sampling rates so cpu cycles will be reduced. You won't see thus with sdrsharp or hdsdr since they keep one sampling rate and do not downsample. Thus in gneral at an fft of 16384 bins they have a resolution of 120hz or so. Not good enough for hf.. Instead you need to use higher order fft's to increase resolution. They need to be quite high like 132,000 fft's which cause a pronounced delay and much higher cpu usage on older machines.In any case, ?processing delays and the sdrplay cpu do cause about 1/4 to 1/2 second delays between the sound and the peaks.73 Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message --------From: John Sweeney Date: 2016-06-24 3:47 PM (GMT-05:00) To: tomb18 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from IF Output Tom,? Current happy user of Win4K3 with LP Pan and a EMU 0202 card.?? Even Windows 10 and works great.?? But been thinking of trying the SDR Play.?? Is the SDR Play as good of set up or even better than Lp pan and sound card???? Would reduce a few cables at least . John.? N3WT > On Jun 24, 2016, at 3:17 PM, tomb18 wrote: > > HiWin4K3Suite just starting supporting the SDRPLAY device. The device works quite well offering 1.8 Mhz bandwidth from the if out. It covers 10 khz to 2.1 ghz.73 Tom va2fsq.com > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > -------- Original message --------From: Jerry Moore Date: 2016-06-24? 3:04 PM? (GMT-05:00) To: 'a45wg' , elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from IF Output > +1 add me to the conversation please. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of a45wg > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 2:07 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] SDR Processing from IF Output > > Fellow Elecrafters, >??????? I have been experimenting with using the IF out from my K3-S to feed an SDR Radio which will in turn allow me to perform some real time signals analysis (including but not only cw-skimmer). I have got the setup working using some cheap RTL-SDR?s which are not designed for HF bands (but with slightly different firmware can be make to sort of work - down to 20 Mhz they are bearable). > >??? Is anyone else doing this - I would appreciate some feedback (preferably positive) regarding more suitable SDR receivers? ?? > >??? Please feel free to PM me - I shall post back the boiled down wisdom?. > >??? 73s and thanks > >??????? Tim - A45WG > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jermo at carolinaheli.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to tomb18 at videotron.ca > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n3wt at comcast.net From matt.vk2rq at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 16:18:47 2016 From: matt.vk2rq at gmail.com (Matt Maguire) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 20:18:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] K2s In-Reply-To: <4794c693-536d-e424-c926-60e95b0e24a1@socal.rr.com> References: <4794c693-536d-e424-c926-60e95b0e24a1@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: It's not just the fun of building it, it's also the fun of using a radio you built yourself. It's nice to be able to undrrstand and appreciate the design, which is harder with the KX3 since the most interesting parts are locked away out of sight in proprietary code. One feature I really like about the K2 is you can plug in paddles, straight keys, bugs etc. all connected in parallel and the K2 will automatically detect which is which. 73, Matt VK2RQ On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 12:35 AM +1000, "Phil Wheeler" wrote: Robin, Since you have a KX3, why the K2? In what ways (other than the fun of building it!) do you find the K2 better than the KX3 -- unless you have the K2/100? I have K2/100, KX3, K3/100, etc. and my K2/100 is currently not in use. Maybe I'll get it set up now that I have a second operating location. 73, Phil W7OX On 6/23/16 9:09 PM, Robin Bayer wrote: > For casual CW, the K2 sounds and performs. Sometimes I daydream about a > K2s upgrade kit. Finer tuning, encoder controls, Band memories, all those > aftermarket mic, level out, an 1/8 phone jack, modern internal battery. Oh > and easily adjustable DSP filtering. > > A K3 is out of my range, well maybe a well used one someday. > > For QRP contesting, and scanning the bands for signals, nothing beats the > KX3, Win4K3 and a good sound card for the Pan adapter. During CWT the > signals were tight, but hardly a click with the filter tightened. A great > value. > > Building most of the accessories for my K2/10 and almost all worked > immediately! I am still pleased to share it in my station report during > rag chews. > > Anyway, Thanks Eleccraft team the fine rigs. > > Robin > KA5QQA > > K1. sold to buy a K2 > KX1 sold to buy a k2 > K2 > KX3 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to matt.vk2rq at gmail.com From brian.waterworth at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 16:36:57 2016 From: brian.waterworth at gmail.com (Brian Waterworth) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 16:36:57 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you Jim. I have read your white paper on RFI and grounding and your deliberations on the pin-1 problem. I guess I will have to read it again :-) It was about 1.5 years ago. Ok, I will start piecing together a new set of interconnecting braid cables, as Don recommended, tonight. Joe, I feel as though I usurped your original thread. Hopefully it helped you as much as it helped me. regards, Brian VE3IBW On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > On Thu,6/23/2016 7:16 PM, Brian Waterworth wrote: > >> For some context on why I went to a common point. I read, what I thought >> was an excellent article, about ground loops from the Flexradio site a >> couple of years ago. Here is the link: >> http://kc.flex-radio.com/knowledgebasearticle50426.aspx >> >> I thought that daisy chaining would introduce ground loops and hence the >> reason I went to a common point. >> > Look at your equipment -- there is already a "daisy-chained" loop between > equipment in the form of those audio cables and coax. The problem, as Don > notes, is that they often don't go to the chassis, but rather to the > circuit board, which couples hum, buzz, and RFI into and out of equipment. > This is "The Pin One Problem," first identified by pro audio engineer Neil > Muncy (W3WJE, SK) in 1994. Virtually all ham gear, including Flex and > Elecraft, has Pin One Problems at audio and control connectors. > > However, I don't think you are advising this. >> > > Brian, > > Study my slides that Don referenced. The concept of a "ground loop" as a > cause of hum, buzz, and RFI is false, and causes people to do the WRONG > things to solve such problems. The slides show the TRUE cause, which is > leakage current from the AC power system. > > The ONLY way in which a "loop" is problematic is that it provides a path > for magnetic coupling between victim equipment and a strong magnetic field > produced by a noise source. Two common sources are 1) the stray fields > produced by big power transformers, and 2) a wiring error in home power > wiring called a "double-bonded neutral," where the neutral is bonded to the > green wire somewhere other than the point where power enters the building. > In both cases, the interference is heard as HUM (pure 60 Hz) rather than > BUZZ (harmonics of 60 Hz). > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to brian.waterworth at gmail.com > From brucemacb at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 17:27:41 2016 From: brucemacb at gmail.com (G4ABX) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 14:27:41 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Sharing K3s I/O between devices In-Reply-To: <828ce394-da48-27c8-3b23-62d46abbc377@Bayland.net> References: <1466782329218-7619227.post@n2.nabble.com> <828ce394-da48-27c8-3b23-62d46abbc377@Bayland.net> Message-ID: <1466803661810-7619247.post@n2.nabble.com> Many thank Dwight. I will do that next week 73 Bruce G4ABX -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Sharing-K3s-I-O-between-devices-tp7619227p7619247.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From glen.torr at gmail.com Fri Jun 24 18:33:19 2016 From: glen.torr at gmail.com (Glen Torr) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 08:33:19 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] [FS] K3 and accs. price drop Message-ID: Hi All, For sale, K SN 2680. Includes:- General Coverge RX 700, 2.8K, 6.0 and 15K 8 pole filters. 100 Watt ATU Upgraded DSP Board SS screws P3 SN 150 K144XV internal 2 meter module. HM2 Original owner, non smoker, little operating time. Built by professional electronics technical officer. AUD $3,500 negotiable. prefer VK 1,2 or 3 but not a show stopper elsewhere. KX3 and KXPA 1000 are now favourites. Glen Torr, VK1FB From n6kr at elecraft.com Fri Jun 24 19:15:21 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 16:15:21 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] New KX2 beta firmware, rev. 2.66; easier to use MIC menu entries; DSP error fix Message-ID: The latest KX2 beta firmware can be found at: http://www.elecraft.com/KX2/kx2_software.htm We recommend that all KX2 owners load this revision. The package includes DSP rev. 1.48, which improves on the previous DSP revision to correct a possible error condition. The error would be indicated by an "ERR DSP" or "ERR DSE" message on the display, odd S-meter behavior, or other symptoms. The condition is rare, but it could be inconvenient if it occurred in the field. The other changes in this release are given below. Please see our KX2 software page (above) for instructions on loading beta releases. 73, Wayne N6KR * * * KX2 MCU 2.66 / DSP 1.48, 6-24-2016 * MIC BTN, MIC BIAS, and all VOX MENU SETTINGS ADJUSTABLE IN ALL MODES: Locking these out was causing problems in some cases. None of these settings apply to the internal mic, but you can now adjust them with or without an external mic plugged in. * DSP BUG FIX: Eliminates the ?ERR DSP? and ?ERR DSE? error conditions that appeared on a small number of KX2s, typically at power-up. From daleputnam at hotmail.com Fri Jun 24 19:35:30 2016 From: daleputnam at hotmail.com (Dale Putnam) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 23:35:30 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Key Recommendation In-Reply-To: References: <004b01d1ce40$ad4e1760$07ea4620$@biz>, Message-ID: I have a J-38 from WWII.. original base, and very nice, with the fabric covered cable, FS. photos available too. And I recommend it... SKCC #87 loves it. Have a great day, --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy ________________________________ From: Elecraft on behalf of Bill Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 12:34 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Key Recommendation Long arm keys, typically those found in maritime service, are the most pleasant of the straight keys to use. They are expensive. An inexpensive alternative is the Czech key seen at: http://www.uv3r.com/CzechMorseKeys/ has a nice feel also. They can be [http://www.uv3r.com/CzechMorseKeys/images/P1000781b_opt.jpg] Czech Morse Keys - UV-3R www.uv3r.com Czech army, military morse code key importers and Baofeng UV-3R suppliers found from $25 to $60 on the Internet. Their good action is due to their folded long-arm design. I have one and it is my straight key of preference. If you go for a bug, nothing beats the VizBug at: http://vizkey.com/order.html#90degreevizbug It is a small and very quiet bug (no thrashing machine noises). I have a Vibroplex single lever paddle that I have been using since the early 60s. Perfect for a normal keyer (don't care much for the one in the K3). I have never used a two paddle anything - so no comments about them. Want to learn more about keys and CW operation in general? Take a look at: http://radiotelegraphy.net/ I have no business interests in any of the above and really don't care if you choose an Amplidan or just tap two bare wires together - both of which will get the same job done. Bill W2BLC K-Line ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to daleputnam at hotmail.com From alan at wilcoxengineering.com Fri Jun 24 20:14:39 2016 From: alan at wilcoxengineering.com (Alan D. Wilcox) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 20:14:39 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Tuneup, Rescue, build your K2, K1, KX1, others Message-ID: <7B38A015-DB5A-4A56-8C1E-722ABF37E4B6@wilcoxengineering.com> Hello, Have you always wanted an Elecraft? A KX1, K1, K2, K3, whatever? Does your K2 need a tuneup? I build and service them all! See what my clients have said about my construction and service work at http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6768 Photos of the popular "Twins" -- the KPA100 and KAT100 in EC2 enclosure -- are at http://wilcoxengineering.com/kpa100-in-ec2/ In addition to tuning your rig, I can also rescue a building project you might have started some time ago. Cheers, Alan Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX (K2-5373, K3-40) 570-478-0736 (cell, text) http://amazon.com/author/alandwilcox Williamsport, PA 17701 From n6kr at elecraft.com Fri Jun 24 20:16:44 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 17:16:44 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Annual Field Day tips (including a few new ones) Message-ID: <9BBEACB7-E8C0-41CE-8E1A-117A701DF117@elecraft.com> Here are my annual tips for getting the most out of your rig at Field Day. (Some are Elecraft-specific--thanks for the bandwidth!) 1. BATTERY LIFE: To conserve battery life, use hunt-and-pounce rather than calling CQ, and use lower power output when possible. This is especially practical on a very quiet band, such as on 15 or 10 meters in the afternoon and early evening. You'll be amazed at how many stations you can work with one watt when these higher bands are open. - Lower power can also keep the rig cooler. (As will operating in the shade! At least keep the heat sink in the shade, if you can. On the KX3, the heat sink occupies the back edge and bottom of the enclosure. On the KX2, it's the right side panel.) - To reduce supply current in receive mode, use headphones rather than the internal speaker, and if lighting conditions permit, turn off the LCD backlight (MENU:BKLIGHT). - The KX2 has an amp-hour monitoring feature. Tap DISP and rotate VFO B to obtain this reading. To clear the AH value to zero, go into the AMP HRS menu entry and hold CLR. - The KX3 automatically switches the power amplifier to a more efficient setting based on the mode, supply voltage, and power setting. You can tell that power-saving mode is in effect by a decimal point after the 'W' in the power value (e.g., "5.0 W."). In SSB and audio data modes, the applicable level is 3.0 watts. 2. QRP HUNT-AND-POUNCE TIP: This type of operation can be greatly enhanced by using dual watch (KX2/KX3) or a sub receiver (K3/K3S). It allows you to keep one VFO on a station you're waiting to call, while tuning the other VFO to look for the next station to call. (If you beat my own 1B-Battery score because of this tip...guess I asked for it :) 3. ANTENNA SELECTION: The general rule is, "the longer and higher, the better," suggesting wire-in-a-tree antennas. (If you're lucky enough to have a portable yagi, that's even better.) - When winding antenna wire for storage, wind it in a figure-8 pattern. When you release the bundle later, it will spring out easily without kinks or tangles. - An electrically short whip will work in a pinch, but you'll typically realize a 5 to 15 dB improvement on both RX and TX with an an-hoc wire antenna. - Most Elecraft rigs have an optional internal, wide-range ATU that can tune random wire antennas on all or some bands. Once the antenna is set up, go into the ATU menu entry on each band of interest and hold CLR to clear out all L-network memories. You may then only have to do ATU TUNE once or twice per band. Data for your home antennas may be stored for up to 32 smaller segments on each band. - When connecting a wire directly to an ATU, avoid wire lengths that are multiples of a half-wave on any target band (unless you're using a half-wave antenna with a matching transformer at the rig). 26' and 52' (approximately) work well for 40-6 meters in most cases, and 52' will usually allow matching on 80 m as well. - You can use these same lengths for counterpoise wires, which are essential for low loss on transmit. Without at least one counterpoise wire, your transmitted signal will be an additional 10-20 dB lower, even if the ATU can match the antenna. 4. ANTENNA SPACING: If you're using more than one transmitter, try to keep the antennas as far apart as possible and perpendicular to each other. This is a good practice with all FD stations, because it can prevent receiver de-sensing and intermodulation distortion. If two stations unavoidably have their antennas in each other's near fields, you can dig into a pretty deep bag of tricks, including reducing preamp gain or turning on the attenuator. These settings are per-band on all Elecraft rigs. - KX3: Try setting MENU:RX SHFT to 8.0 rather than NOR. (The KX2 always uses 8 kHz shift.) 5. OSCILLATOR ISOLATION: The KX2 and KX3, like other radios with a quadrature direct-conversion architecture, use a VFO (local oscillator) running at or very close to the operating frequency. If you have another radio on the same band as the KX2 or KX3, and the antennas are close together, the other radio may be able to hear the rig's oscillator when they're both tuned close to the same frequency. To prevent this entirely, the KX3 includes an isolation amplifier that keeps the oscillator from radiating back through the mixer. Normally this amplifier is turned off to save about 15 mA of receive-mode current drain. To turn on the isolation amp, set MENU:RX ISO to ON. This has no effect on performance. The KX2 doesn't have an isolation amp, but isolation is very good when the preamp is on. Have fun! 73, Wayne N6KR From k.alexander at rogers.com Fri Jun 24 21:15:22 2016 From: k.alexander at rogers.com (Ken Alexander) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 21:15:22 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 + XV432 Message-ID: <60833fc2-178f-a17b-8dd9-144ee08ce110@rogers.com> I'm trying to complete the alignment and setup on my newly completed XV432. I'm going to use it with my KX3. I made a cable so the KX3 can key the XV432 to transmit. RCA phono plug at the XV432 and a 2.5mm stereo plug for ACC2 on the KX3. Center pin on the phono plug connects to the RING on the stereo plug. Whenever I connect the two units together with the cable the XV432 go into transmit. If I unplug it from the KX3 it goes back into receive. I checked that only the RING and ground are connected at the stereo plug. I have checked for shorts (ring/center pin to ground) and continuity (from ground to ground and RING to center pin) many times and everything is OK. With the cable plugged in to the KX3 I measure infinite resistance (open circuit) across the phono plug. The RING terminal is not affected by ACC2 IO menu settings. My understanding is that the keyline goes low during transmit, according to the KX3 manual. It's not low when I check it on receive, but it still keys the transverter when I connect the two of them together. I think I've covered all possibilities, but they aren't working together the way they should. Anybody have any ideas. I'd appreciate any help. Thanks and 73, Ken Alexander VE3HLS From rcrgs at verizon.net Fri Jun 24 21:57:35 2016 From: rcrgs at verizon.net (Robert G Strickland) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 01:57:35 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] Annual Field Day tips (including a few new ones) In-Reply-To: <9BBEACB7-E8C0-41CE-8E1A-117A701DF117@elecraft.com> References: <9BBEACB7-E8C0-41CE-8E1A-117A701DF117@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <576DE50F.5020207@verizon.net> Alas, no mention of the K2, my FD go to radio. This is understandable, and no criticism is meant. The K2 is yesterday's radio, while the KX2/3 are for today and tomorrow. That said, it's fun to run up a lot of CW q's on the "old" K2 while other operators in the group are using up-to-date Japanese radios and struggling with SSB. ...robert On 06/25/2016 00:16, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Here are my annual tips for getting the most out of your rig at Field Day. (Some are Elecraft-specific--thanks for the bandwidth!) > > 1. BATTERY LIFE: To conserve battery life, use hunt-and-pounce rather than calling CQ, and use lower power output when possible. This is especially practical on a very quiet band, such as on 15 or 10 meters in the afternoon and early evening. You'll be amazed at how many stations you can work with one watt when these higher bands are open. > > - Lower power can also keep the rig cooler. (As will operating in the shade! At least keep the heat sink in the shade, if you can. On the KX3, the heat sink occupies the back edge and bottom of the enclosure. On the KX2, it's the right side panel.) > > - To reduce supply current in receive mode, use headphones rather than the internal speaker, and if lighting conditions permit, turn off the LCD backlight (MENU:BKLIGHT). > > - The KX2 has an amp-hour monitoring feature. Tap DISP and rotate VFO B to obtain this reading. To clear the AH value to zero, go into the AMP HRS menu entry and hold CLR. > > - The KX3 automatically switches the power amplifier to a more efficient setting based on the mode, supply voltage, and power setting. You can tell that power-saving mode is in effect by a decimal point after the 'W' in the power value (e.g., "5.0 W."). In SSB and audio data modes, the applicable level is 3.0 watts. > > > 2. QRP HUNT-AND-POUNCE TIP: This type of operation can be greatly enhanced by using dual watch (KX2/KX3) or a sub receiver (K3/K3S). It allows you to keep one VFO on a station you're waiting to call, while tuning the other VFO to look for the next station to call. (If you beat my own 1B-Battery score because of this tip...guess I asked for it :) > > > 3. ANTENNA SELECTION: The general rule is, "the longer and higher, the better," suggesting wire-in-a-tree antennas. (If you're lucky enough to have a portable yagi, that's even better.) > > - When winding antenna wire for storage, wind it in a figure-8 pattern. When you release the bundle later, it will spring out easily without kinks or tangles. > > - An electrically short whip will work in a pinch, but you'll typically realize a 5 to 15 dB improvement on both RX and TX with an an-hoc wire antenna. > > - Most Elecraft rigs have an optional internal, wide-range ATU that can tune random wire antennas on all or some bands. Once the antenna is set up, go into the ATU menu entry on each band of interest and hold CLR to clear out all L-network memories. You may then only have to do ATU TUNE once or twice per band. Data for your home antennas may be stored for up to 32 smaller segments on each band. > > - When connecting a wire directly to an ATU, avoid wire lengths that are multiples of a half-wave on any target band (unless you're using a half-wave antenna with a matching transformer at the rig). 26' and 52' (approximately) work well for 40-6 meters in most cases, and 52' will usually allow matching on 80 m as well. > > - You can use these same lengths for counterpoise wires, which are essential for low loss on transmit. Without at least one counterpoise wire, your transmitted signal will be an additional 10-20 dB lower, even if the ATU can match the antenna. > > > 4. ANTENNA SPACING: If you're using more than one transmitter, try to keep the antennas as far apart as possible and perpendicular to each other. This is a good practice with all FD stations, because it can prevent receiver de-sensing and intermodulation distortion. If two stations unavoidably have their antennas in each other's near fields, you can dig into a pretty deep bag of tricks, including reducing preamp gain or turning on the attenuator. These settings are per-band on all Elecraft rigs. > > - KX3: Try setting MENU:RX SHFT to 8.0 rather than NOR. (The KX2 always uses 8 kHz shift.) > > > 5. OSCILLATOR ISOLATION: The KX2 and KX3, like other radios with a quadrature direct-conversion architecture, use a VFO (local oscillator) running at or very close to the operating frequency. If you have another radio on the same band as the KX2 or KX3, and the antennas are close together, the other radio may be able to hear the rig's oscillator when they're both tuned close to the same frequency. > > To prevent this entirely, the KX3 includes an isolation amplifier that keeps the oscillator from radiating back through the mixer. Normally this amplifier is turned off to save about 15 mA of receive-mode current drain. To turn on the isolation amp, set MENU:RX ISO to ON. This has no effect on performance. > > The KX2 doesn't have an isolation amp, but isolation is very good when the preamp is on. > > Have fun! > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rcrgs at verizon.net > -- Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY rcrgs at verizon.net.usa Syracuse, New York, USA From donwilh at embarqmail.com Fri Jun 24 22:55:13 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 22:55:13 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 + XV432 In-Reply-To: <60833fc2-178f-a17b-8dd9-144ee08ce110@rogers.com> References: <60833fc2-178f-a17b-8dd9-144ee08ce110@rogers.com> Message-ID: <9110eb1a-066b-7c13-b4b8-429e3b47c637@embarqmail.com> Ken, There is something strange going on. Does the XV432 stay in the receive state when you remove the RCA plug from the KEYIN jack on the XV432? You have two things to work with - both the KX3 and the XV432, and both should be set up properly. If you are wanting to use the KEYOUT from the KX3, then you will have to configure the XV432 as non-Elecraft. That means a jumper on JP7 and *no* jumper on JP8. You will also have to have all 4 dip switches set to OFF. The XV432 will be active when the power switch is on. If you have a sufficiently high resistance at the XV432 KEYIN jack, the transverter should be in the receive state, and it should go to transmit when the KX3 is set to transmit. You can still set the XVn menus in the KX3 to the proper frequency, drive level, etc. so the KX3 shows the XV432 output frequency when you switch the XV432 on. That is the easiest setup. Are you certain you have plugged the 2.5mm ACC2 plug in all the way? Give it that extra push to fully seat it. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/24/2016 9:15 PM, Ken Alexander wrote: > I'm trying to complete the alignment and setup on my newly completed > XV432. I'm going to use it with my KX3. > > I made a cable so the KX3 can key the XV432 to transmit. RCA phono > plug at the XV432 and a 2.5mm stereo plug for ACC2 on the KX3. Center > pin on the phono plug connects to the RING on the stereo plug. > Whenever I connect the two units together with the cable the XV432 go > into transmit. If I unplug it from the KX3 it goes back into receive. > > I checked that only the RING and ground are connected at the stereo > plug. I have checked for shorts (ring/center pin to ground) and > continuity (from ground to ground and RING to center pin) many times > and everything is OK. > > With the cable plugged in to the KX3 I measure infinite resistance > (open circuit) across the phono plug. > > The RING terminal is not affected by ACC2 IO menu settings. > > My understanding is that the keyline goes low during transmit, > according to the KX3 manual. It's not low when I check it on receive, > but it still keys the transverter when I connect the two of them > together. I think I've covered all possibilities, but they aren't > working together the way they should. > > Anybody have any ideas. I'd appreciate any help. > > Thanks and 73, > From ron at cobi.biz Fri Jun 24 22:57:56 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 19:57:56 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K2s In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000601d1ce8d$602d30e0$208792a0$@biz> Theodore Roosevelt famously said, "Do what you can, with what you have, where you are." I've always found that an essential path to joy. The K2 is an outstanding rig. Besides, you built it yourself (just like I did 16 years ago). 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Robin Bayer Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:09 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K2s For casual CW, the K2 sounds and performs. Sometimes I daydream about a K2s upgrade kit. Finer tuning, encoder controls, Band memories, all those aftermarket mic, level out, an 1/8 phone jack, modern internal battery. Oh and easily adjustable DSP filtering. A K3 is out of my range, well maybe a well used one someday. For QRP contesting, and scanning the bands for signals, nothing beats the KX3, Win4K3 and a good sound card for the Pan adapter. During CWT the signals were tight, but hardly a click with the filter tightened. A great value. Building most of the accessories for my K2/10 and almost all worked immediately! I am still pleased to share it in my station report during rag chews. Anyway, Thanks Eleccraft team the fine rigs. Robin KA5QQA K1. sold to buy a K2 KX1 sold to buy a k2 K2 KX3 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From donwilh at embarqmail.com Fri Jun 24 23:28:47 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 23:28:47 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2s In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8a06c2a4-a750-5d20-e3d8-d0f87b0d7f7c@embarqmail.com> Robin, I understand about your pleasures of the K2, but I doubt you will see any more upgrades to the K2. Just enjoy it as it is right now (unless yours could use the upgrade kits that are available). Parts for the K2 are becoming harder and harder to source, but Elecraft has done a magnificent job of trying to keep up with alternatives as the availability of the original parts has vanished. A few that I have been involved with are the substitution of the speech processor on the KSB2 option, the unavailability of SA612 ICs in DIP format, and the lack of trimmer capacitors that were used in the past (which created the demise of the K1 4 band board). I am not sure how much longer the K2 can "hang in there" as a new kit with the world switching to SMD components and leaving the thru-hole components behind as obsolete. Time will tell, but what I am saying is that Elecraft has made successful substitutions so far, but there will be a day when that is no longer possible. I also hate to think of the time when proper replacement parts for the K2 are no longer available, but I do see "the writing on the wall". So to ask for improvement for an 18 year old design may be asking for more than can be reasonably accomplished at a desirable price point. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/24/2016 12:09 AM, Robin Bayer wrote: > For casual CW, the K2 sounds and performs. Sometimes I daydream about a > K2s upgrade kit. Finer tuning, encoder controls, Band memories, all those > aftermarket mic, level out, an 1/8 phone jack, modern internal battery. Oh > and easily adjustable DSP filtering. > > A K3 is out of my range, well maybe a well used one someday. > > For QRP contesting, and scanning the bands for signals, nothing beats the > KX3, Win4K3 and a good sound card for the Pan adapter. During CWT the > signals were tight, but hardly a click with the filter tightened. A great > value. > > Building most of the accessories for my K2/10 and almost all worked > immediately! I am still pleased to share it in my station report during > rag chews. > > From n6kr at elecraft.com Fri Jun 24 23:35:07 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 20:35:07 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Annual Field Day tips (including a few new ones) In-Reply-To: <576DE50F.5020207@verizon.net> References: <9BBEACB7-E8C0-41CE-8E1A-117A701DF117@elecraft.com> <576DE50F.5020207@verizon.net> Message-ID: Oversight on my part, Robert. I've had KX-Line on the brain all year because of the KX2 release. In fact, Field Day is why Elecraft exists, and the K2 was the rig Eric and I dreamed up to improve our FD experience. We're still tweaking things nearly 20 years later :) 73, Wayne N6KR On Jun 24, 2016, at 6:57 PM, Robert G Strickland wrote: > Alas, no mention of the K2, my FD go to radio. This is understandable, and no criticism is meant. The K2 is yesterday's radio, while the KX2/3 are for today and tomorrow. That said, it's fun to run up a lot of CW q's on the "old" K2 while other operators in the group are using up-to-date Japanese radios and struggling with SSB. > > ...robert > > On 06/25/2016 00:16, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> Here are my annual tips for getting the most out of your rig at Field Day. (Some are Elecraft-specific--thanks for the bandwidth!) >> >> 1. BATTERY LIFE: To conserve battery life, use hunt-and-pounce rather than calling CQ, and use lower power output when possible. This is especially practical on a very quiet band, such as on 15 or 10 meters in the afternoon and early evening. You'll be amazed at how many stations you can work with one watt when these higher bands are open. >> >> - Lower power can also keep the rig cooler. (As will operating in the shade! At least keep the heat sink in the shade, if you can. On the KX3, the heat sink occupies the back edge and bottom of the enclosure. On the KX2, it's the right side panel.) >> >> - To reduce supply current in receive mode, use headphones rather than the internal speaker, and if lighting conditions permit, turn off the LCD backlight (MENU:BKLIGHT). >> >> - The KX2 has an amp-hour monitoring feature. Tap DISP and rotate VFO B to obtain this reading. To clear the AH value to zero, go into the AMP HRS menu entry and hold CLR. >> >> - The KX3 automatically switches the power amplifier to a more efficient setting based on the mode, supply voltage, and power setting. You can tell that power-saving mode is in effect by a decimal point after the 'W' in the power value (e.g., "5.0 W."). In SSB and audio data modes, the applicable level is 3.0 watts. >> >> >> 2. QRP HUNT-AND-POUNCE TIP: This type of operation can be greatly enhanced by using dual watch (KX2/KX3) or a sub receiver (K3/K3S). It allows you to keep one VFO on a station you're waiting to call, while tuning the other VFO to look for the next station to call. (If you beat my own 1B-Battery score because of this tip...guess I asked for it :) >> >> >> 3. ANTENNA SELECTION: The general rule is, "the longer and higher, the better," suggesting wire-in-a-tree antennas. (If you're lucky enough to have a portable yagi, that's even better.) >> >> - When winding antenna wire for storage, wind it in a figure-8 pattern. When you release the bundle later, it will spring out easily without kinks or tangles. >> >> - An electrically short whip will work in a pinch, but you'll typically realize a 5 to 15 dB improvement on both RX and TX with an an-hoc wire antenna. >> >> - Most Elecraft rigs have an optional internal, wide-range ATU that can tune random wire antennas on all or some bands. Once the antenna is set up, go into the ATU menu entry on each band of interest and hold CLR to clear out all L-network memories. You may then only have to do ATU TUNE once or twice per band. Data for your home antennas may be stored for up to 32 smaller segments on each band. >> >> - When connecting a wire directly to an ATU, avoid wire lengths that are multiples of a half-wave on any target band (unless you're using a half-wave antenna with a matching transformer at the rig). 26' and 52' (approximately) work well for 40-6 meters in most cases, and 52' will usually allow matching on 80 m as well. >> >> - You can use these same lengths for counterpoise wires, which are essential for low loss on transmit. Without at least one counterpoise wire, your transmitted signal will be an additional 10-20 dB lower, even if the ATU can match the antenna. >> >> >> 4. ANTENNA SPACING: If you're using more than one transmitter, try to keep the antennas as far apart as possible and perpendicular to each other. This is a good practice with all FD stations, because it can prevent receiver de-sensing and intermodulation distortion. If two stations unavoidably have their antennas in each other's near fields, you can dig into a pretty deep bag of tricks, including reducing preamp gain or turning on the attenuator. These settings are per-band on all Elecraft rigs. >> >> - KX3: Try setting MENU:RX SHFT to 8.0 rather than NOR. (The KX2 always uses 8 kHz shift.) >> >> >> 5. OSCILLATOR ISOLATION: The KX2 and KX3, like other radios with a quadrature direct-conversion architecture, use a VFO (local oscillator) running at or very close to the operating frequency. If you have another radio on the same band as the KX2 or KX3, and the antennas are close together, the other radio may be able to hear the rig's oscillator when they're both tuned close to the same frequency. >> >> To prevent this entirely, the KX3 includes an isolation amplifier that keeps the oscillator from radiating back through the mixer. Normally this amplifier is turned off to save about 15 mA of receive-mode current drain. To turn on the isolation amp, set MENU:RX ISO to ON. This has no effect on performance. >> >> The KX2 doesn't have an isolation amp, but isolation is very good when the preamp is on. >> >> Have fun! >> >> 73, >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to rcrgs at verizon.net >> > > -- > Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY > rcrgs at verizon.net.usa > Syracuse, New York, USA > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From glen.torr at gmail.com Sat Jun 25 03:48:51 2016 From: glen.torr at gmail.com (Glen Torr) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 17:48:51 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] [FS] K3 Message-ID: Hi All, For sale, K SN 2680. Includes:- General Coverge RX 700, 2.8K, 6.0 and 15K 8 pole filters. 100 Watt ATU Upgraded DSP Board SS screws P3 SN 150 K144XV internal 2 meter module. HM2 Original owner, non smoker, little operating time. Built by professional electronics technical officer. AUD $3,500 negotiable. Glen Vk1fB From john at kn5l.net Sat Jun 25 06:52:42 2016 From: john at kn5l.net (John Oppenheimer) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 05:52:42 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 FIL display change suggestion Message-ID: <81aae8dd-cdde-a639-c3ad-868486ce3f46@kn5l.net> Can the FIL default display "FIL ADJ" be replaced with the current setting? This change will allow viewing the BW without the need to tune the BW. Using MCU 2.66 / DSP 1.48 John KN5L From oldgun92 at gmail.com Sat Jun 25 09:21:58 2016 From: oldgun92 at gmail.com (Ronald Park) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 06:21:58 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Bill I am interest in the J38 you have for sale.I can paypal to your email address.what are the details. Ron AK4JL From lstavenhagen at hotmail.com Sat Jun 25 11:17:29 2016 From: lstavenhagen at hotmail.com (lstavenhagen) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 08:17:29 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K2s In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1466867849390-7619261.post@n2.nabble.com> Besides the parts access issues, another consideration is keeping it buildable. If the K2 were to be updated any further, it might go out of reach as a buildable-by-mortal-hams kit with discrete components. In fact, there are compromises in the rig already to keep it easy to build, I'm thinking the synthesizer circuitry for example. You'd have to basically do what Elecraft has already done, which is go to more of a final-assembly/no-solder kit so that the touchier parts of construction could be done at the factory, etc. Else, we'd have to start doing SMT soldering, or just an endlessly complicated kit that would take absolutely forever to build and require esoteric or expensive tools, etc. So as-is, the K2 is already about the top of the line in terms of what you get performance/features-wise in a kit that even ham-fisted (so to speak) builders like myself can actually build and have a working rig at the end of it. I've built two copies of the K2 so far, but I think I'm done for now lol. These should last me for the duration. But if you're thinking of building one, probably best to do it sooner rather than later while Elecraft can still get parts... 73, LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2s-tp7619218p7619261.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ab2tc at arrl.net Sat Jun 25 11:33:31 2016 From: ab2tc at arrl.net (ab2tc) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 08:33:31 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] ALAN WILCOX In-Reply-To: <5dd4d.5b2a117e.449ead8d@aol.com> References: <5dd4d.5b2a117e.449ead8d@aol.com> Message-ID: <1466868811122-7619262.post@n2.nabble.com> Hi, For other people's info, the link Alan provided below doesn't work (page not found). AB2TC - Knut Elecraft mailing list wrote > Alan > > Do you still have some pictures available? I purchased a K2 with EC2 with > amp and tuner installed but no info from the previous owner how to > connect > the two. i found your post online. Do you still have the pictures?: > =============POSTED ON ELECRAFT LIST======= > Paul, > A picture is always helpful, so I posted some photos up on my site > so you can see what the combination looks like. > See http://wilcoxengineering.com/amateur-radio/kpa100inec2 > Hope it helps! > Alan > > ============== > Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX > 570-321-1516 > _http://WilcoxEngineering.com_ (http://wilcoxengineering.com/) > Williamsport, PA 17701 > ======================= > > ALAN KB7MBI > ______________________________________________________________ > -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ALAN-WILCOX-tp7619228p7619262.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From byron at n6nul.org Sat Jun 25 11:54:46 2016 From: byron at n6nul.org (Byron Servies) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 08:54:46 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] ALAN WILCOX In-Reply-To: <1466868811122-7619262.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <5dd4d.5b2a117e.449ead8d@aol.com> <1466868811122-7619262.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: A quick visit to the home page leads to the correct link quickly: http://wilcoxengineering.com/kpa100-in-ec2/ the dashes were just left out. Hope this helps. 73, Byron N6NUL On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 8:33 AM, ab2tc wrote: > Hi, > > For other people's info, the link Alan provided below doesn't work (page not > found). -- - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org From kissov at me.com Sat Jun 25 12:05:57 2016 From: kissov at me.com (Richard Thorpe) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 09:05:57 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100 Message-ID: Just set up my summer station KX3-KXPA100 and the ?ON? LED on the KXPA100 is blinking slowly and I?ve forgotten what this means and how to clear it. Help please. Thank you. K6CG/VE1 for the summer From bob at hogbytes.com Sat Jun 25 12:30:43 2016 From: bob at hogbytes.com (Bob N3MNT) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 09:30:43 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1466872243787-7619265.post@n2.nabble.com> Are any of the fault lights lighting? What is displayed in the KX3 display? -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KXPA100-tp7619264p7619265.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From nskousen at ecsecurityinc.com Sat Jun 25 13:45:35 2016 From: nskousen at ecsecurityinc.com (Niel Skousen) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 11:45:35 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] Long shot: kpa100/kat100 Message-ID: <81A32CAF-F264-4713-A8AC-1BB67F1D840A@ecsecurityinc.com> This is a long shot, but anyone have either/both a kpa100 / kat100 that is partially complete or inop and collecting dust ?? I'm thinking of adding an amp for my K2 and looking for something I can get very Inexpensively and fix up... I am aware of the Italian and Chinese amp's on eBay and the HobbyPCB amp/tuner, and thought I'd check here for something collecting dust first. Please contact off the list to discuss ... Thanks for the bandwidth && 73 Niel WA7SSA Sent from my iPhone From ed at w0yk.com Sat Jun 25 13:54:55 2016 From: ed at w0yk.com (Ed Muns) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:54:55 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K8ZOA SK and Clifton Laboratories In-Reply-To: <81A32CAF-F264-4713-A8AC-1BB67F1D840A@ecsecurityinc.com> References: <81A32CAF-F264-4713-A8AC-1BB67F1D840A@ecsecurityinc.com> Message-ID: >From today's Daily DX: On Wednesday K8ZOA, Jack R. Smith, passed away from liver, kidney and respiratory complications. He was both a lawyer and engineer working for both the FCC and private practice law firms. Jack was an inventor and created Clifton Laboratories. Earlier this month DX Engineering purchased Clifton Laboratories and plans to continue manufacturing those "products in the exact same fashion and service Jack did", says K3LR, Tim Duffy, Chief Operating Officer of DX Engineering. Ed W0YK From kl7cw at mtaonline.net Sat Jun 25 14:37:54 2016 From: kl7cw at mtaonline.net (Rick Dwight) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:37:54 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] k3s AM receive Message-ID: <74338FA2F5434FC08B15B8B83ACCA49E@RickPC> I am going to order a K3S and have my filter selection figured out OK for CW and SSB. However I want to do a little BCB and SWL listening on AM. At this time no plans to transmit AM. I live in rural Alaska and there are no strong BCB or SW broadcast stations close to my QTH. Is there any reason to equip my my K3S with either the 6 kHz or FM filter roofing filters for AM reception or will the DSP filter do the job. I realize that if I want to tx AM I will need to install the 6kHz filter. My interests are 99% CW and my cw filters will include the 700Hz filter which I have already obtained. Thanks, Rick KL7CW From ron at cobi.biz Sat Jun 25 15:06:02 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:06:02 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] k3s AM receive In-Reply-To: <74338FA2F5434FC08B15B8B83ACCA49E@RickPC> References: <74338FA2F5434FC08B15B8B83ACCA49E@RickPC> Message-ID: <000f01d1cf14$9e4850d0$dad8f270$@biz> FWIW, I listen to most SW and any weak AM signals in SSB mode. I have the 6 kHz I.F. filter but only use it on occasionally. IF you pass for now, you can very easily add the 6 kHz filter later. Your best initial investment would likely be the KBPF3A which gives you optimum receiver sensitivity outside of the Ham bands, especially since you say you don't have strong signals close by. 73 Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rick Dwight Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 11:38 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] k3s AM receive I am going to order a K3S and have my filter selection figured out OK for CW and SSB. However I want to do a little BCB and SWL listening on AM. At this time no plans to transmit AM. I live in rural Alaska and there are no strong BCB or SW broadcast stations close to my QTH. Is there any reason to equip my my K3S with either the 6 kHz or FM filter roofing filters for AM reception or will the DSP filter do the job. I realize that if I want to tx AM I will need to install the 6kHz filter. My interests are 99% CW and my cw filters will include the 700Hz filter which I have already obtained. Thanks, Rick KL7CW ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From lists at subich.com Sat Jun 25 15:51:07 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 15:51:07 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] k3s AM receive In-Reply-To: <74338FA2F5434FC08B15B8B83ACCA49E@RickPC> References: <74338FA2F5434FC08B15B8B83ACCA49E@RickPC> Message-ID: <666e2bac-f436-d1aa-90ce-756e8698a84c@subich.com> > Is there any reason to equip my my K3S with either the 6 kHz or FM > filter roofing filters for AM reception or will the DSP filter do the > job. I realize that if I want to tx AM I will need to install the > 6kHz filter. If you expect to receive AM as AM you will need either the 6 KHz (AM) filter or 13 KHz (FM) filter. You can receive BCB AM using the stock 2.7 or 2.8 KHz filter but you must receive the AM signal as if it was USB or LSB and zero beat the carrier. Doing so will give you significantly restricted frequency response - barely good enough for "Talk Radio". 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 6/25/2016 2:37 PM, Rick Dwight wrote: > I am going to order a K3S and have my filter selection figured out OK > for CW and SSB. However I want to do a little BCB and SWL listening > on AM. At this time no plans to transmit AM. I live in rural Alaska > and there are no strong BCB or SW broadcast stations close to my QTH. > Is there any reason to equip my my K3S with either the 6 kHz or FM > filter roofing filters for AM reception or will the DSP filter do the > job. I realize that if I want to tx AM I will need to install the > 6kHz filter. My interests are 99% CW and my cw filters will include > the 700Hz filter which I have already obtained. > Thanks, Rick KL7CW > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list Home: > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: > http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: > mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > From robert.fox at photopaws.co.uk Sat Jun 25 16:51:28 2016 From: robert.fox at photopaws.co.uk (Bob Fox) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 21:51:28 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <95C54746-C2FB-469F-8388-EC800E088FE1@photopaws.co.uk> If you have the latest firmware on the KXPA100 it 5 watts or less out of the KX3 and the KXPA100 is in bypass mode , if you increase the power from the KX3 above 5 watts the amp will then be in line and you will get a steady power light. Bob (G0UOI) On 25 Jun 2016, at 17:05, Richard Thorpe wrote: > Just set up my summer station KX3-KXPA100 and the ?ON? LED on the KXPA100 is blinking slowly and I?ve forgotten what this means and how to clear it. Help please. Thank you. > > K6CG/VE1 for the summer > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to robert.fox at photopaws.co.uk From ron at cobi.biz Sat Jun 25 16:57:19 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 13:57:19 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] k3s AM receive In-Reply-To: <666e2bac-f436-d1aa-90ce-756e8698a84c@subich.com> References: <74338FA2F5434FC08B15B8B83ACCA49E@RickPC> <666e2bac-f436-d1aa-90ce-756e8698a84c@subich.com> Message-ID: <001601d1cf24$2a395df0$7eac19d0$@biz> You might be surprised Joe. Demodulating double sideband AM with a 6 kHz I.F. filter is hardly different from demodulating SSB AM with a 2.7 kHz filter. You are only losing 300 Hz of audio bandwidth doing that. I got into the habit of running SSB mode to receive AM, particularly SW AM, because injecting the "carrier" locally eliminates selective QSB distortion caused by the carrier fading out of phase with the sideband. In the K3/K3S, that's handled automatically by enabling "Sync AM". Very few AM stations transmit audio above 7 kHz these days. Many restrict the bandwidth to between 2.5 and 3 kHz total (5 to 6 KHz RF bandwidth). By doing that the AM stations can sell some of their channel space for other services (using subcarriers on the main carrier). Also, most car radios for the past few decades limit the audio bandwidth on AM to 3 kHz or less because customers complained about the background hiss coming up on weak stations. I read that became a real issue when AM/FM car radios appeared and the typical consumer did not understand why AM stations got "noisy" while FM stations did not. As a result, many AM broadcast stations today use very heavy high frequency pre-emphasis to help overcome the limited bandwidth. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 12:51 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3s AM receive > Is there any reason to equip my my K3S with either the 6 kHz or FM > filter roofing filters for AM reception or will the DSP filter do the > job. I realize that if I want to tx AM I will need to install the > 6kHz filter. If you expect to receive AM as AM you will need either the 6 KHz (AM) filter or 13 KHz (FM) filter. You can receive BCB AM using the stock 2.7 or 2.8 KHz filter but you must receive the AM signal as if it was USB or LSB and zero beat the carrier. Doing so will give you significantly restricted frequency response - barely good enough for "Talk Radio". 73, ... Joe, W4TV From w1zk at comcast.net Sat Jun 25 20:01:34 2016 From: w1zk at comcast.net (Ralph McClintock) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 20:01:34 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping fully assembled KPA-500 Message-ID: <078e4979-e10d-73f8-aaba-7dd43a27f3e0@comcast.net> What does Elecraft recommend for shipping a built KPA-500? Do KPA-500F amps ship with the xformer installed? Not selling mine, just wondering about buying a used one!! W1ZK -- Secretary USS PUEBLO Veterans Association Life Member American Ex-Prisoners of War Life Member Disabled American Veterans From cf at cfcorp.com Sat Jun 25 20:24:34 2016 From: cf at cfcorp.com (Cliff Frescura) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 17:24:34 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping fully assembled KPA-500 In-Reply-To: <078e4979-e10d-73f8-aaba-7dd43a27f3e0@comcast.net> References: <078e4979-e10d-73f8-aaba-7dd43a27f3e0@comcast.net> Message-ID: <016601d1cf41$1e21f1e0$5a65d5a0$@com> My factory assembled KPA-500 was shipped in one carton, all parts installed. Set the line voltage and install the fuses, and you're off to the races! 73, Cliff K3LL/6 -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ralph McClintock Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 5:02 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping fully assembled KPA-500 What does Elecraft recommend for shipping a built KPA-500? Do KPA-500F amps ship with the xformer installed? Not selling mine, just wondering about buying a used one!! W1ZK -- Secretary USS PUEBLO Veterans Association Life Member American Ex-Prisoners of War Life Member Disabled American Veterans ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to cf at cfcorp.com From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sat Jun 25 20:26:04 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 20:26:04 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping fully assembled KPA-500 In-Reply-To: <078e4979-e10d-73f8-aaba-7dd43a27f3e0@comcast.net> References: <078e4979-e10d-73f8-aaba-7dd43a27f3e0@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7dbc448c-9b4f-49ca-ec7a-d4eb0590dfd0@embarqmail.com> Ralph, When a KPA500 is shipped for service, they recommend that the transformer be removed. It not only saves on weight, but it eliminates the possibility that the transformer will deform the bottom panel should the parcel experience a sudden stop such as at the end of a sorting chute. Elecraft does ship the factory KPA500 with the transformer installed. *However*, they use special extruded packing supports. If the person you would buy from has the factory packaging for a KPA500-F (or a K3-F), then it can safely ship using that packing and box. If that packing and box is not available, I would suggest that a piece of plywood cut to the same size as the KPA500 be placed directly under the KPA500. I normally suggest that packing peanuts are good for protection, but not for that much weight because the peanuts can be crushed, at least 2 inches of bubble wrap on all sides would be better. Do not use the large air bags, they can burst. The secret to good packing is to pack the object so it cannot move within the box. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/25/2016 8:01 PM, Ralph McClintock wrote: > What does Elecraft recommend for shipping a built KPA-500? Do KPA-500F > amps ship with the xformer installed? Not selling mine, just wondering > about buying a used one!! > W1ZK > From w1zk at comcast.net Sat Jun 25 20:32:51 2016 From: w1zk at comcast.net (Ralph McClintock) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 20:32:51 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping fully assembled KPA-500 In-Reply-To: <7dbc448c-9b4f-49ca-ec7a-d4eb0590dfd0@embarqmail.com> References: <078e4979-e10d-73f8-aaba-7dd43a27f3e0@comcast.net> <7dbc448c-9b4f-49ca-ec7a-d4eb0590dfd0@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <34d13fe4-faa9-6059-2b75-1eb341af4c26@comcast.net> Thanks Don, That is exactly the info I was looking for. I had shipped mine back, w/o xformer, for a repair last year but wondered how does Elecraft ship Factory built units. Ralph W1ZK On 6/25/2016 8:26 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Ralph, > > When a KPA500 is shipped for service, they recommend that the > transformer be removed. > It not only saves on weight, but it eliminates the possibility that > the transformer will deform the bottom panel should the parcel > experience a sudden stop such as at the end of a sorting chute. > > Elecraft does ship the factory KPA500 with the transformer installed. > *However*, they use special extruded packing supports. > > If the person you would buy from has the factory packaging for a > KPA500-F (or a K3-F), then it can safely ship using that packing and box. > If that packing and box is not available, I would suggest that a piece > of plywood cut to the same size as the KPA500 be placed directly under > the KPA500. I normally suggest that packing peanuts are good for > protection, but not for that much weight because the peanuts can be > crushed, at least 2 inches of bubble wrap on all sides would be > better. Do not use the large air bags, they can burst. > > The secret to good packing is to pack the object so it cannot move > within the box. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 6/25/2016 8:01 PM, Ralph McClintock wrote: >> What does Elecraft recommend for shipping a built KPA-500? Do >> KPA-500F amps ship with the xformer installed? Not selling mine, just >> wondering about buying a used one!! >> W1ZK >> > > -- Secretary USS PUEBLO Veterans Association Life Member American Ex-Prisoners of War Life Member Disabled American Veterans From hhoyt at mebtel.net Sat Jun 25 20:46:29 2016 From: hhoyt at mebtel.net (hhoyt) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 20:46:29 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Odd filter behavior Message-ID: In the middle of field day my K3 filter center frequency control decided to become unresponsive and will not switch modes by tapping and is stuck to the center spot frequency. Any ideas? Howie - WA4PSC? Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S? 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone From ron at cobi.biz Sat Jun 25 21:00:19 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 18:00:19 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping fully assembled KPA-500 In-Reply-To: <34d13fe4-faa9-6059-2b75-1eb341af4c26@comcast.net> References: <078e4979-e10d-73f8-aaba-7dd43a27f3e0@comcast.net> <7dbc448c-9b4f-49ca-ec7a-d4eb0590dfd0@embarqmail.com> <34d13fe4-faa9-6059-2b75-1eb341af4c26@comcast.net> Message-ID: <001701d1cf46$1c55f230$5501d690$@biz> Don't forget, when you get the unit with the xfmr removed, to install the Belleville washer correctly as shown in the kit assy manual. That's important to hold the transformer in place. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ralph McClintock Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 5:33 PM To: donwilh at embarqmail.com; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping fully assembled KPA-500 Thanks Don, That is exactly the info I was looking for. I had shipped mine back, w/o xformer, for a repair last year but wondered how does Elecraft ship Factory built units. Ralph W1ZK From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sat Jun 25 21:08:08 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 21:08:08 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Odd filter behavior In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3aacd0eb-83ef-6756-b777-5efdf09e9deb@embarqmail.com> Howie, Have you set QRQ on? Shift is not available while QRQ is turned on. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/25/2016 8:46 PM, hhoyt wrote: > > In the middle of field day my K3 filter center frequency control decided to become unresponsive and will not switch modes by tapping and is stuck to the center spot frequency. Any ideas? > Howie - WA4PSC > > > Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S? 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com From ja-pierce at verizon.net Sat Jun 25 21:59:34 2016 From: ja-pierce at verizon.net (johnpierce) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 21:59:34 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Wall Wart for KX3 Message-ID: <00b601d1cf4e$63c293f0$2b47bbd0$@verizon.net> A person recently provided a link to a clean Wall Wart power supply he bought for his KX3. I have searched for it and cannot find it. Could someone please repost the link? John Pierce From w7ox at socal.rr.com Sat Jun 25 22:57:29 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 19:57:29 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Wall Wart for KX3 In-Reply-To: <00b601d1cf4e$63c293f0$2b47bbd0$@verizon.net> References: <00b601d1cf4e$63c293f0$2b47bbd0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1a512245-3d94-bb1d-ca5a-a814dbe8b2f1@socal.rr.com> This one https://proaudioeng.com/products/pae-kx33-low-rfi-ac-power-supply/ 73, Phil W7OX On 6/25/16 6:59 PM, johnpierce wrote: > A person recently provided a link to a clean Wall Wart power supply he > bought for his KX3. I have searched for it and cannot find it. Could > someone please repost the link? > > > > John Pierce From k.alexander at rogers.com Sat Jun 25 23:12:36 2016 From: k.alexander at rogers.com (Ken Alexander) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 23:12:36 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Transverter setup on KX3 Message-ID: <7b4db386-1374-f5c4-c058-22b286672f71@rogers.com> Hi All, I stumbled my way through the rest of the XV432 transverter alignment and everything appears to be fine. Just trying to do the transverter band setup from page 21 in the KX3 manual. "XVn RF sets the operating frequency". I assume this means the transverter's operating frequency? Is it just a number for display like 432 or something? What's a legitimate number to enter when I'm setting up an XV432? No information in the manual. I tried going to look at the transverter setup for my KX3-2M option but it doesn't display any more?? "XVn PWR sets maximum power output in watts". The XV432's maximum output is 20 watts. How come the setting only goes as high as 8 watts and then rolls over back to 0.5 watts? "XVn OFS can compensate for frequency offset". We read my local oscillator's output to be 4 Hz high and left it at that. Is this where I compensate for that, if it's even needed? If so, the manual doesn't say how to do it. It only says you don't need to do it for the KX3-2M/4M module. That doesn't help me. "XVn ADR". It doesn't sound like I really need to do this if I have just the one XV transverter. The Key Line at ACC2 keys the transverter just fine as-is. My next transverter will most likely be for 1296, which unfortunately means it won't be an Elecraft. In that case I guess I can still set it up as a band in my KX3 but I'll have to manually disconnect my XV432 and then connect up the 1296 transverter. Well, or use a good antenna switch or relay. Thanks in advance for any assistance! 73, Ken Alexander VE3HLS From KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com Sat Jun 25 23:22:40 2016 From: KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 20:22:40 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Wall Wart for KX3 In-Reply-To: <1a512245-3d94-bb1d-ca5a-a814dbe8b2f1@socal.rr.com> References: <00b601d1cf4e$63c293f0$2b47bbd0$@verizon.net> <1a512245-3d94-bb1d-ca5a-a814dbe8b2f1@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: I've got one. Works well. On 6/25/2016 7:57 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > This one > https://proaudioeng.com/products/pae-kx33-low-rfi-ac-power-supply/ > > 73, Phil W7OX > > On 6/25/16 6:59 PM, johnpierce wrote: >> A person recently provided a link to a clean Wall Wart power supply he >> bought for his KX3. I have searched for it and cannot find it. Could >> someone please repost the link? >> >> >> John Pierce From k2av.guy at gmail.com Sun Jun 26 00:39:39 2016 From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 00:39:39 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] k3s AM receive In-Reply-To: <74338FA2F5434FC08B15B8B83ACCA49E@RickPC> References: <74338FA2F5434FC08B15B8B83ACCA49E@RickPC> Message-ID: After some years of both a 13 and 6 kHz filter in my K3 with sub-RX, I gave up on the 13 kHz as not being particularly useful as I wound up never listening to FM on my K3. On the other hand I frequently4 used the 6 kHz filter on AM in the "Sync" mode, which uses USB and LSB demodulation, but locks onto the AM carrier frequency. This does music well, not super hifi by any means, but it has the singular advantage of locking on the carrier and listening to the upper OR lower sideband with the filter removing the opposite sideband. If there is QRM to the broad AM signal that is not an on-channel AM signal, it will usually be on one side or another. The shift control will move the filter placement between carrier plus upper sideband and carrier plus lower sideband. The display always shows the carrier frequency. Of late I use AM Sync mode all the time by habit with width set to max. And by all means get the KBPF3A. Since I do diversity listening, I have the 6 kHz filter and KBPF3A on both main and sub RX. We have an oldies station on 850 AM here. I wondered why the upper sideband didn't sound as clear as the lower. When I got a P3, the reason why was obvious. They were transmitting it that way. So I just set the shift for LSB. At any rate, good luck. 73, Guy K2AV On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Rick Dwight wrote: > I am going to order a K3S and have my filter selection figured out OK for > CW and SSB. However I want to do a little BCB and SWL listening on AM. At > this time no plans to transmit AM. I live in rural Alaska and there are no > strong BCB or SW broadcast stations close to my QTH. Is there any reason > to equip my my K3S with either the 6 kHz or FM filter roofing filters for > AM reception or will the DSP filter do the job. I realize that if I want > to tx AM I will need to install the 6kHz filter. My interests are 99% CW > and my cw filters will include the 700Hz filter which I have already > obtained. Thanks, Rick KL7CW > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2av.guy at gmail.com > From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Sun Jun 26 04:42:19 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 09:42:19 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] Transverter setup on KX3 In-Reply-To: <7b4db386-1374-f5c4-c058-22b286672f71@rogers.com> References: <7b4db386-1374-f5c4-c058-22b286672f71@rogers.com> Message-ID: <3F1126C3-6D83-4634-BEF8-B046DAB3B250@yahoo.co.uk> Ken, Please read my inline comments below. > I stumbled my way through the rest of the XV432 transverter alignment and everything appears to be fine. Just trying to do the transverter band setup from page 21 in the KX3 manual. > > "XVn RF sets the operating frequency". I assume this means the transverter's operating frequency? Is it just a number for display like 432 or something? Yes 432 is correct. You also have another setting for XVn IF which in my case is 14, your's will probably be 28. > What's a legitimate number to enter when I'm setting up an XV432? No information in the manual. I tried going to look at the transverter setup for my KX3-2M option but it doesn't display any more?? > > "XVn PWR sets maximum power output in watts". The XV432's maximum output is 20 watts. How come the setting only goes as high as 8 watts and then rolls over back to 0.5 watts? It isn't the transverter power output, but the input power to the transverter. I don't have an XV432 so don't know what it uses. I use a 2m transverter by ME and it can be set for powers up to 3 watts, that was what I chose for that setting, as it allows the setting of output power from the KX3 fairly accurately. > > "XVn OFS can compensate for frequency offset". We read my local oscillator's output to be 4 Hz high and left it at that. Is this where I compensate for that, if it's even needed? If so, the manual doesn't say how to do it. It only says you don't need to do it for the KX3-2M/4M module. That doesn't help me. This is a handy feature if your transverter LO is out a bit, you can put the compensation figure in there, and either measure the transverter output frequency on transmit, or use an accurate signal into the receive side and adjust it to get the right dial reading when using CW and tuned in accurately. 4 Hz isn't going to be a problem you could leave it at 0. The KX3 will probably be out more than that. > > "XVn ADR". It doesn't sound like I really need to do this if I have just the one XV transverter. The Key Line at ACC2 keys the transverter just fine as-is. Fine. In my case I have my 144 MHz transverter on XV2 and XV2 ADR is trn2 My internal 70 MHz transverter and XV1 ADR is Int. trn0 > My next transverter will most likely be for 1296, which unfortunately means it won't be an Elecraft. In that case I guess I can still set it up as a band in my KX3 but I'll have to manually disconnect my XV432 and then connect up the 1296 transverter. Well, or use a good antenna switch or relay. Yes you will want to investigate a way to do the switching of IF and Keyline. There are ways to do this automatically if you build a decoder to read the KX3 band from the serial port. G4FRE makes a board with a PIC to do just that, though you need to supply your own relays for the IF switching. > > Thanks in advance for any assistance! > > 73, > > Ken Alexander > VE3HLS 73 David GM4JJJ From w0eb at cox.net Sun Jun 26 08:39:17 2016 From: w0eb at cox.net (Jim Sheldon) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 12:39:17 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: CW Operators - Semi-Automatic Bug Dot Stabilizers available again Message-ID: Quick follow-up. Shortly after my original post announcing the availability of my dot stabilizers again, my ISP started having serious problems handling all matters internet including my email. I was able to receive a few inquiries and orders during their sporadic up time over the last couple of weeks, and those have all been answered and paid orders filled. The orders have all been delivered according to the US Post Office's tracking site. My concern is there were a number of emails that got lost somewhere in the system during that time so if you made an inquiry or attempted to order during the last several weeks, please re-submit. I want to make sure everyone got any questions answered. Jim - W0EB Park City, KS From k.alexander at rogers.com Sun Jun 26 11:09:44 2016 From: k.alexander at rogers.com (Ken Alexander) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 11:09:44 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Transverter setup on KX3 In-Reply-To: <3F1126C3-6D83-4634-BEF8-B046DAB3B250@yahoo.co.uk> References: <7b4db386-1374-f5c4-c058-22b286672f71@rogers.com> <3F1126C3-6D83-4634-BEF8-B046DAB3B250@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <025767b0-f142-91a8-98d4-66ae7f9fca1b@rogers.com> Thank you David for the explanations! The setup took only minutes after I knew what the settings meant. Thanks again and 73, Ken Alexander VE3HLS On 2016-06-26 4:42 AM, David Anderson wrote: > Ken, > > Please read my inline comments below. > >> I stumbled my way through the rest of the XV432 transverter alignment and everything appears to be fine. Just trying to do the transverter band setup from page 21 in the KX3 manual. >> >> "XVn RF sets the operating frequency". I assume this means the transverter's operating frequency? Is it just a number for display like 432 or something? > Yes 432 is correct. > > You also have another setting for XVn IF which in my case is 14, your's will probably be 28. > > >> What's a legitimate number to enter when I'm setting up an XV432? No information in the manual. I tried going to look at the transverter setup for my KX3-2M option but it doesn't display any more?? >> >> "XVn PWR sets maximum power output in watts". The XV432's maximum output is 20 watts. How come the setting only goes as high as 8 watts and then rolls over back to 0.5 watts? > It isn't the transverter power output, but the input power to the transverter. I don't have an XV432 so don't know what it uses. I use a 2m transverter by ME and it can be set for powers up to 3 watts, that was what I chose for that setting, as it allows the setting of output power from the KX3 fairly accurately. >> "XVn OFS can compensate for frequency offset". We read my local oscillator's output to be 4 Hz high and left it at that. Is this where I compensate for that, if it's even needed? If so, the manual doesn't say how to do it. It only says you don't need to do it for the KX3-2M/4M module. That doesn't help me. > This is a handy feature if your transverter LO is out a bit, you can put the compensation figure in there, and either measure the transverter output frequency on transmit, or use an accurate signal into the receive side and adjust it to get the right dial reading when using CW and tuned in accurately. 4 Hz isn't going to be a problem you could leave it at 0. The KX3 will probably be out more than that. >> "XVn ADR". It doesn't sound like I really need to do this if I have just the one XV transverter. The Key Line at ACC2 keys the transverter just fine as-is. > Fine. > > In my case I have my 144 MHz transverter on XV2 and XV2 ADR is trn2 > > My internal 70 MHz transverter and XV1 ADR is Int. trn0 > > > >> My next transverter will most likely be for 1296, which unfortunately means it won't be an Elecraft. In that case I guess I can still set it up as a band in my KX3 but I'll have to manually disconnect my XV432 and then connect up the 1296 transverter. Well, or use a good antenna switch or relay. > > Yes you will want to investigate a way to do the switching of IF and Keyline. There are ways to do this automatically if you build a decoder to read the KX3 band from the serial port. G4FRE makes a board with a PIC to do just that, though you need to supply your own relays for the IF switching. >> Thanks in advance for any assistance! >> >> 73, >> >> Ken Alexander >> VE3HLS > 73 > > David GM4JJJ > > > From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sun Jun 26 11:33:39 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 11:33:39 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Transverter setup on KX3 In-Reply-To: <7b4db386-1374-f5c4-c058-22b286672f71@rogers.com> References: <7b4db386-1374-f5c4-c058-22b286672f71@rogers.com> Message-ID: Ken, Just as verification to what David told you -- Pick the TRN (XV) number that you wish to use for the XV432 - that is the "n" in the XVn menu settings. XVn RF is the output band for your transverter. The KX3 should show the output frequency. XVn PWR is the power *input* to your XV432. Set the XV432 jumpers and input attenuator to work with this power level. XVn OFS will compensate for the frequency of the transverter local oscillator. You can adjust that later when you can receive 432MHz beacons of a known frequency. If you have an accurate frequency counter, you can adjust the LO frequency in the XV432 to something close to 404MHz, then later use the XVn OFS menu to put the frequency display "right on". XVn ADR is not too important for the KX3 and the XV transverters, but if you are decoding the band data from the AUXBUS, then it will be relevant to the band decoder. The KX3 does not provide full integration with the XV series transverters like the K2, K3 and K3S because there is no KX3 output to tell the transverter when to turn power on and when to set the transmit and receive state (other than the KEYOUT signal from ACC2). A specialized band decoder which reads the AUXBUS signal and can tell the XV432 that the band is selected would allow this automatic selection, but that is not present in the native KX3. Yes, you will have to provide a means of switching the KX3 output coax to the XV432 when that band is selected. That band information is available on the AUXBUS if the ACC2 GPIO is set to TRN CTRL in the menu, but it has to be decoded. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/25/2016 11:12 PM, Ken Alexander wrote: > Hi All, > > I stumbled my way through the rest of the XV432 transverter alignment > and everything appears to be fine. Just trying to do the transverter > band setup from page 21 in the KX3 manual. > > "XVn RF sets the operating frequency". I assume this means the > transverter's operating frequency? Is it just a number for display > like 432 or something? What's a legitimate number to enter when I'm > setting up an XV432? No information in the manual. I tried going to > look at the transverter setup for my KX3-2M option but it doesn't > display any more?? > > "XVn PWR sets maximum power output in watts". The XV432's maximum > output is 20 watts. How come the setting only goes as high as 8 watts > and then rolls over back to 0.5 watts? > > "XVn OFS can compensate for frequency offset". We read my local > oscillator's output to be 4 Hz high and left it at that. Is this > where I compensate for that, if it's even needed? If so, the manual > doesn't say how to do it. It only says you don't need to do it for > the KX3-2M/4M module. That doesn't help me. > > "XVn ADR". It doesn't sound like I really need to do this if I have > just the one XV transverter. The Key Line at ACC2 keys the > transverter just fine as-is. My next transverter will most likely be > for 1296, which unfortunately means it won't be an Elecraft. In that > case I guess I can still set it up as a band in my KX3 but I'll have > to manually disconnect my XV432 and then connect up the 1296 > transverter. Well, or use a good antenna switch or relay. > From nr4c at widomaker.com Sun Jun 26 13:13:17 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 13:13:17 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3). Bug in my K3 Message-ID: I was informed just now at the Field Day Site that I have a bug in my radio, s/n 4536. It appears to be crawling around in the LCD display. Is DDT available anymore? Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill From k6dgw at foothill.net Sun Jun 26 13:18:50 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 10:18:50 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] k3s AM receive In-Reply-To: References: <74338FA2F5434FC08B15B8B83ACCA49E@RickPC> Message-ID: <3fbcf9f1-1947-f36f-b4a7-082cceea4d3a@foothill.net> Oldies Station? Maybe an RCA Amplifuzz TX. Notoriously hard to get into alignment. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org On 6/25/2016 9:39 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: > We have an oldies station on 850 AM here. I wondered why the upper sideband > didn't sound as clear as the lower. When I got a P3, the reason why was > obvious. They were transmitting it that way. So I just set the shift for > LSB. From rodenkirch_llc at msn.com Sun Jun 26 15:34:14 2016 From: rodenkirch_llc at msn.com (Jim Rodenkirch) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 12:34:14 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3 Message-ID: <1466969654343-7619288.post@n2.nabble.com> Here is my F1 macro for CW contests: F1 CQ, {CATA1ASCKY cq TEST * * test;} If I enter two "cqs" {CATA1ASCKY cq cq TEST * * test;} the message is not sent...is that indicative of a limit on characters transferred 'tween N1MM and the KX3? Just tryin' to unnerstand....tnx, in advance, for your reply ---------- Jim R K9JWV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/N1MM-and-KX3-tp7619288.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From fcady at montana.edu Sun Jun 26 15:58:21 2016 From: fcady at montana.edu (Cady, Fred) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 19:58:21 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3 In-Reply-To: <1466969654343-7619288.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1466969654343-7619288.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: isn't it {cat1asc...} ? ________________________________ From: Elecraft on behalf of Jim Rodenkirch Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 1:34 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3 Here is my F1 macro for CW contests: F1 CQ, {CATA1ASCKY cq TEST * * test;} If I enter two "cqs" {CATA1ASCKY cq cq TEST * * test;} the message is not sent...is that indicative of a limit on characters transferred 'tween N1MM and the KX3? Just tryin' to unnerstand....tnx, in advance, for your reply ---------- Jim R K9JWV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/N1MM-and-KX3-tp7619288.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to fcady at montana.edu From gus.stuart at gmail.com Sun Jun 26 16:33:34 2016 From: gus.stuart at gmail.com (Gus Stuart) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:33:34 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FS: KX3 Side panels and cover Message-ID: I have for sale the GEMS KX3 side panels, plastic cover, and paddle slot cover. Never used. Asking $70. (price includes USPS priority mail cost). 73, Gus, n1ccw From vk1zzgary at gmail.com Sun Jun 26 16:58:42 2016 From: vk1zzgary at gmail.com (Gary Gregory) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 06:58:42 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] K3). Bug in my K3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hmmmmm...can you now say Flea Power? :-) Gary On 27 June 2016 at 03:13, Nr4c wrote: > I was informed just now at the Field Day Site that I have a bug in my > radio, s/n 4536. It appears to be crawling around in the LCD display. > > Is DDT available anymore? > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to vk1zzgary at gmail.com > -- *Gary - VK1ZZ, K3NHLSkype: Gary.VK1ZZhttp://www.qsl.net/vk1zz Motorhome Portable* *Miss Behavin'* *Elecraft K3KPA500FT #18KAT500FT #007* From n7xy at n7xy.net Sun Jun 26 17:14:44 2016 From: n7xy at n7xy.net (Bob Nielsen) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 14:14:44 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3). Bug in my K3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It must have entered through the key jack. On 6/26/16 1:58 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > Hmmmmm...can you now say Flea Power? > > :-) > > Gary > > On 27 June 2016 at 03:13, Nr4c wrote: > >> I was informed just now at the Field Day Site that I have a bug in my >> radio, s/n 4536. It appears to be crawling around in the LCD display. >> >> Is DDT available anymore? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ...nr4c. bill >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to vk1zzgary at gmail.com >> > > From ve3iay at gmail.com Sun Jun 26 17:15:52 2016 From: ve3iay at gmail.com (Richard Ferch) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 17:15:52 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3 Message-ID: The limit is in the KX3 firmware. According to the K3&KX3 Programmer's Manual, the upper limit on the length of a text message that can be sent using the KY command is 24 characters. Your original message already comprises 24 characters after the * macros are expanded, so the added "cq " pushed it over the limit. 73, Rich VE3KI K9JWV wrote: Here is my F1 macro for CW contests: F1 CQ, {CATA1ASCKY cq TEST * * test;} If I enter two "cqs" {CATA1ASCKY cq cq TEST * * test;} the message is not sent...is that indicative of a limit on characters transferred 'tween N1MM and the KX3? From Rodenkirch_LLC at msn.com Sun Jun 26 17:16:04 2016 From: Rodenkirch_LLC at msn.com (James Rodenkirch) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:16:04 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3 In-Reply-To: References: <1466969654343-7619288.post@n2.nabble.com>, Message-ID: Well, Fred....I coulda listed it as F1 CQ, {CATA1ASC KY cq TEST * * test;} Regardless, either "version" produces the same..........adding the 2nd cq (for either 'version') results in nothing out of the KX3 ________________________________________ From: Cady, Fred Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 1:58 PM To: Jim Rodenkirch; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3 isn't it {cat1asc...} ? ________________________________ From: Elecraft on behalf of Jim Rodenkirch Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 1:34 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3 Here is my F1 macro for CW contests: F1 CQ, {CATA1ASCKY cq TEST * * test;} If I enter two "cqs" {CATA1ASCKY cq cq TEST * * test;} the message is not sent...is that indicative of a limit on characters transferred 'tween N1MM and the KX3? Just tryin' to unnerstand....tnx, in advance, for your reply ---------- Jim R K9JWV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/N1MM-and-KX3-tp7619288.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to fcady at montana.edu From rodenkirch_llc at msn.com Sun Jun 26 17:37:23 2016 From: rodenkirch_llc at msn.com (Jim Rodenkirch) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 14:37:23 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3 In-Reply-To: References: <1466969654343-7619288.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1466977043534-7619295.post@n2.nabble.com> Bingo.....mucho gracias......"problem" solved..........tnx, Rich.....I sure hope they expand that "buffer" some in a later firmware update/upgrade!!!! -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/N1MM-and-KX3-tp7619288p7619295.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From edauer at law.du.edu Sun Jun 26 18:56:44 2016 From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 22:56:44 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 / K3 audio - and the K2 fan Message-ID: <6B2CAC8D-D392-4ABD-90EF-6DDFBE1ADF39@law.du.edu> I know this is runs the risk of reopening an old thread, so I?ll keep the question focused: During the FD this weekend I spent about half the time with the K3 line, and half with the K2. Using the same headset, same antennas, same ambient environment, but of necessity different filter configurations, I now understand why some people prefer the K2?s audio to the K3?s. It is a matter of taste, of course. But I found the K2 simply easier to listen to for long stretches ? at least for my ops which are CW only. It?s hard to describe the difference in words, so two questions. 1. Has anyone done an analysis of the frequency response of the audio stages in both rigs, to compare them empirically? My guess is that the K2?s curve is skewed toward the lower ranges. 2. I have never set the RX EQ in the K3 ? it?s still on what it was when I bought it. Has anyone tried to make a K3 sound more like a K2? If so, what settings do the best? This encomium for the K2 ends, however, when it hits the fan. Running QSOs in the contest with the K2 and KPA100/KAT100 (in an EC-2) kept the amp?s fan on pretty much continuously ? and the sound it makes is something like a cat being slowly tortured. It is much more annoying than the fans in the K3, the KPA500, and the K3 power supply blowing simultaneously, which they almost never do. Could be a bad bearing? The amp hasn?t been used for 100 hours yet. If it?s not a flaw, is there an after-market fan that fits the KPA100 cutouts and which moves as much air but doesn?t make as much noise? Thanks . . . Ted, KN1CBR From mr_pookie_jr at yahoo.com Sun Jun 26 19:15:04 2016 From: mr_pookie_jr at yahoo.com (Paul Clay) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:15:04 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 / K3 audio - and the K2 fan In-Reply-To: <6B2CAC8D-D392-4ABD-90EF-6DDFBE1ADF39@law.du.edu> Message-ID: <1466982904.85472.YahooMailMobile@web160905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> K2's audio IS sweet sounding, isn't it? :-)(Not meant as a dig at the K3; in my - ok, admitted somewhat limited - experience, I'm not sure I've ever heard an SDR receiver having audio that matched that of a good analogue receiver, K2, Drake R4B, etc., notwithstanding any of the "tweaks" allowed by the SDR and/or any associated computer sound card.) - Paul, N6LQ From donwilh at embarqmail.com Sun Jun 26 19:20:42 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 19:20:42 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 / K3 audio - and the K2 fan In-Reply-To: <6B2CAC8D-D392-4ABD-90EF-6DDFBE1ADF39@law.du.edu> References: <6B2CAC8D-D392-4ABD-90EF-6DDFBE1ADF39@law.du.edu> Message-ID: <5ca71b22-808e-28c9-46c2-38479e0117dc@embarqmail.com> Ted, You would find the K3 RX EQ to be beneficial to your ears. The IF filtering in the K2 causes the high frequency to roll off, but the stock K3 has a flatter response. If you have an older K3, the DSP board exchange or the LPF added to the DSP board will help by rolling off the high frequency content. Check the serial numbers on the K3 mods page to see if your K3 has the updated DSP board with the high frequency filter. The fan on the K2/100 is what it is, I don't know of any substitutes, but make sure the CAL TPA setting is correct to start with. You can run the fan on the HI-LO setting so the fan is on constantly at low speed and will only go to high during extended transmit periods. You can also put a slow running muffin fan above the K2/100 heatsink such as is described in the pages of Tom Hammond's (SK) website http://www.mmccs.com/mmarc/n0ss/kpa100_aux_cooling_fan_duct.pdf. His website is preserved by the Mid-Misouri Amateur Radio Club. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/26/2016 6:56 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote: > I know this is runs the risk of reopening an old thread, so I?ll keep the question focused: > > During the FD this weekend I spent about half the time with the K3 line, and half with the K2. Using the same headset, same antennas, same ambient environment, but of necessity different filter configurations, I now understand why some people prefer the K2?s audio to the K3?s. It is a matter of taste, of course. But I found the K2 simply easier to listen to for long stretches ? at least for my ops which are CW only. It?s hard to describe the difference in words, so two questions. 1. Has anyone done an analysis of the frequency response of the audio stages in both rigs, to compare them empirically? My guess is that the K2?s curve is skewed toward the lower ranges. 2. I have never set the RX EQ in the K3 ? it?s still on what it was when I bought it. Has anyone tried to make a K3 sound more like a K2? If so, what settings do the best? > > This encomium for the K2 ends, however, when it hits the fan. Running QSOs in the contest with the K2 and KPA100/KAT100 (in an EC-2) kept the amp?s fan on pretty much continuously ? and the sound it makes is something like a cat being slowly tortured. It is much more annoying than the fans in the K3, the KPA500, and the K3 power supply blowing simultaneously, which they almost never do. Could be a bad bearing? The amp hasn?t been used for 100 hours yet. If it?s not a flaw, is there an after-market fan that fits the KPA100 cutouts and which moves as much air but doesn?t make as much noise? > > Thanks . . . > > Ted, KN1CBR > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to donwilh at embarqmail.com From k6dgw at foothill.net Sun Jun 26 19:35:28 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:35:28 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 / K3 audio - and the K2 fan In-Reply-To: <6B2CAC8D-D392-4ABD-90EF-6DDFBE1ADF39@law.du.edu> References: <6B2CAC8D-D392-4ABD-90EF-6DDFBE1ADF39@law.du.edu> Message-ID: <01e36b21-7b05-bd99-c494-0c52ebe67445@foothill.net> Can't answer your second question about the fans, but I initially thought that my K2 "just sounded 'nicer'" than my K3. It's not a huge difference, and I'm fairly deaf anyway, so I don't have a definitive, iron-clad answer but: 1. I usually use lightweight headphones [single narrow metal band] with the small foam covered phones on my K2 and a Heil Proset I got from Elecraft on my K3. When I finally tried the lightweight ones on the K3, the sound improved. I tried a very old Sony headset [1960's from a reel-to-reel recorder] and it too improved the sound, at least subjectively. The K2 sounded about the same with it. I've concluded that the radio-headphones are a system and the components work together. 2. Jim, K9YC, gave me some advice on the RXEQ, the most important of which was ... "go very slowly while adjusting it." Make a change, and then use it for awhile. That stopped my flailing around with it, and I found I could improve the audio quality noticeably. My current settings, which I haven't messed with in several years sort of roughly mirror the response of a couple of "programs" in my hearing aids. The differential gain achievable in the K3 RXEQ is much less than my hearing aids, but somehow, it smooths out the sound. [That's a technical term used by someone who doesn't really know what's happening. :-)] My observations are mainly for narrow BW CW, I've listened some on sideband, but not enough to figure anything out. My K2 does not have DSP, and I've wondered if the less-square response of the crystal filter isn't part of the equation too. The K3 DSP seems like a brick wall at times. Maybe someone with a DSP K2 and a K3 has some observations. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org On 6/26/2016 3:56 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote: > My guess is that the K2?s curve is skewed toward the > lower ranges. 2. I have never set the RX EQ in the K3 ? it?s > still on what it was when I bought it. Has anyone tried to make a K3 > sound more like a K2? If so, what settings do the best? From nr4c at widomaker.com Sun Jun 26 19:59:47 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 19:59:47 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3 In-Reply-To: <1466969654343-7619288.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1466969654343-7619288.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <0F497E18-4825-4329-BBE5-94B711E381D2@widomaker.com> When I got my KX3, I built a pair of transistor switches that fit in a DE-9 shell. Added cables for RX/TX, PTT and CW KEYING and now it works just like a K3 with CAT, PTT and CW using DTR, and RTS from n1mm all from a standard KUSB that works with the K3. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jun 26, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Jim Rodenkirch wrote: > > Here is my F1 macro for CW contests: > > F1 CQ, {CATA1ASCKY cq TEST * * test;} > > If I enter two "cqs" {CATA1ASCKY cq cq TEST * * test;} the message is not > sent...is that indicative of a limit on characters transferred 'tween N1MM > and the KX3? > > Just tryin' to unnerstand....tnx, in advance, for your reply ---------- Jim > R K9JWV > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/N1MM-and-KX3-tp7619288.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From w7ox at socal.rr.com Sun Jun 26 20:01:00 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 17:01:00 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 / K3 audio - and the K2 fan In-Reply-To: <6B2CAC8D-D392-4ABD-90EF-6DDFBE1ADF39@law.du.edu> References: <6B2CAC8D-D392-4ABD-90EF-6DDFBE1ADF39@law.du.edu> Message-ID: <209a385b-af4f-4e34-902f-340ef4aee1e3@socal.rr.com> Ted, I have a fully-developed K2 #380) including KPA100, KAT100, KDSP2, etc. I've even added the 3rd party MA Board and the Rework eliminator (together). I also did a full update of everything in 2014 (ROMs, some updates I'd not done when last I worked on the K2 in 2004 or so, etc.; it was quite a job and my Hakko desoldering tool proved its worth!) The K2/100 and KX2 are my in-the-back-bedroom setup: Takes less space on my smaller desk, and I'm able to use any antenna by throwing switches out in the shack. Mostly of late I use the QRP KX2; sort of more fun. My shack off the garage is not heated and not insulated: Too hot on hot days, and too cold on cold days; the shack is better equipped (KX3/PX3 and K3/P3/KPA500/KAT500) but not always pleasant to use. I have listened to both the K3 and K2 alternately side by side in the shack, in fact this morning. They do sound different, but I can't say one is better than the other. Of course, since use DSP filters in the K2 all of the time, and in the K3 most of the time, that's a variable unique to me and my filter settings. The K3 is easier to operate, especially on SSB, due to the P3; I have no panadapter set up for the K2, one of the few third-party options I've missed. One of these days I may replace the K2/100 with a more state-of-the-art radio; I started building mine in July 1999 and the design is a bit long in the tooth, but still solid today! Since I've had no issues with my KPA100's fan, noise or otherwise, I wonder if you should consider replacing yours, Ted? Of course, one ear has stone deaf for 50 years and the other one is not spectacular (Advantage: No need for subRX in K3!), but I do hear computer fans, the fan in my power supply, etc. -- so I'm not "fan deaf" 73, Phil W7OX On 6/26/16 3:56 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote: > I know this is runs the risk of reopening an old thread, so I?ll keep the question focused: > > During the FD this weekend I spent about half the time with the K3 line, and half with the K2. Using the same headset, same antennas, same ambient environment, but of necessity different filter configurations, I now understand why some people prefer the K2?s audio to the K3?s. It is a matter of taste, of course. But I found the K2 simply easier to listen to for long stretches ? at least for my ops which are CW only. It?s hard to describe the difference in words, so two questions. 1. Has anyone done an analysis of the frequency response of the audio stages in both rigs, to compare them empirically? My guess is that the K2?s curve is skewed toward the lower ranges. 2. I have never set the RX EQ in the K3 ? it?s still on what it was when I bought it. Has anyone tried to make a K3 sound more like a K2? If so, what settings do the best? > > This encomium for the K2 ends, however, when it hits the fan. Running QSOs in the contest with the K2 and KPA100/KAT100 (in an EC-2) kept the amp?s fan on pretty much continuously ? and the sound it makes is something like a cat being slowly tortured. It is much more annoying than the fans in the K3, the KPA500, and the K3 power supply blowing simultaneously, which they almost never do. Could be a bad bearing? The amp hasn?t been used for 100 hours yet. If it?s not a flaw, is there an after-market fan that fits the KPA100 cutouts and which moves as much air but doesn?t make as much noise? > > Thanks . . . > > Ted, KN1CBR From wb9cac at yahoo.com Sun Jun 26 21:00:48 2016 From: wb9cac at yahoo.com (Bill Ellis) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 01:00:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] CW Setup References: <1907475127.1891473.1466989248888.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1907475127.1891473.1466989248888.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hi ll, Trying to set up a single lever paddle for my K3. The more I read the more confused, for some reason, it gets. Can someone assist with this hook up, do ?I use a stereo plug, and how do I set up the menu ? Thanks/73's, Bill, WB9CAC From k6dgw at foothill.net Sun Jun 26 22:16:06 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 19:16:06 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Setup In-Reply-To: <1907475127.1891473.1466989248888.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1907475127.1891473.1466989248888.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1907475127.1891473.1466989248888.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <631ed080-5eae-0df5-da27-da26c9826ca7@foothill.net> One side is dits, other side is dahs, and the 3rd wire is the common. If you're right-handed, you probably want the dits on the left [thumb] and the dahs on the right [fingers]. If you're left-handed, you're sort of on your own, I am, and I used to paddle right, have slowly migrated left, but with a right-hand setup. None of this really matters, you can invert the paddle sense in the menu of most Elecraft rigs. I'm not sure but I think the dit side goes to the tip, the dah side to the ring, and the common to the sleeve. Again, it doesn't matter, just make sure the common is to the sleeve. You can change it in the menu. 73, Fred K6DGW Sparks NV Washoe County DM09dn On 6/26/2016 6:00 PM, Bill Ellis via Elecraft wrote: > Hi ll, Trying to set up a single lever paddle for my K3. The more I > read the more confused, for some reason, it gets. Can someone assist > with this hook up, do I use a stereo plug, and how do I set up the > menu ? > > Thanks/73's, Bill, WB9CAC From eric_csuf at hotmail.com Sun Jun 26 22:38:52 2016 From: eric_csuf at hotmail.com (EricJ) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 19:38:52 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Setup In-Reply-To: <1907475127.1891473.1466989248888.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1907475127.1891473.1466989248888.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1907475127.1891473.1466989248888.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: K6DGW's post answers most of your questions, but I'll add a couple more points. You have to use a stereo plug for any key plugged into an Elecraft rig. Even straight keys and bugs with only two wires. Also, as Fred points out, you can pretty much do whatever you want and left handers often just stick with setting up paddles as righthanders to. I think it's a mistake because of the symmetry in the brain. Right hand bugs are set up with dits on the thumb and dahs on the forefinger. Righthanders do the same with paddles for electronic keyers. Sticking to this convention makes it easier to use someone elses rig or demos at ham conventions with ease as they are usually set up for righthanders. Lefthanders can do what they want, of course, and we often do because it's our nature. But lefties should also follow the convention that the thumb is for dits and the forefinger for dahs. Remarkably, a lefthander who does this can sit down with a righthanded bug or paddle/keyer and send with very little practice. That isn't just because lefthanders are more skilled. It's that the brain easily makes the adjustment--even a righthanders brain can handle that. Until recently, I've always used a bug or paddle righthanded and a straight key lefthanded because a straight key demands fine motor skills the others don't. As I get older, I've noticed my fine motor skills slightly degrading. So I built a lefthanded bug to see if that would help. It did. My left hand is more precise than my right, always has been. So after 40 years of using righthanded bugs and keyers, I switched to my lefthand. With an evening of practice, my speed and ability was as good as my right hand. I think my LH fist is even a little better than my RH fist ever was, but memory is the second thing to go. Eric KE6US On 6/26/2016 6:00 PM, Bill Ellis via Elecraft wrote: > Hi ll, > Trying to set up a single lever paddle for my K3. The more I read the more confused, for some reason, it gets. Can someone assist with this hook up, do I use a stereo plug, and how do I set up the menu ? > > Thanks/73's, > Bill, WB9CAC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to eric_csuf at hotmail.com From w0cz at i29.net Sun Jun 26 22:51:16 2016 From: w0cz at i29.net (Kenneth Christiansen) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:51:16 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] MFJ-4416B Battery Booster RF sensing Message-ID: <1C78B4D4-83F7-4453-9416-58D3CFC7B056@i29.net> Hi to the group. I had a good time working field day QRP Battery and made 119 5 watt CW contacts using a solar panel for charging etc. I plan to go on vacation in about a week and bought a MFJ-4416B battery booster to use with my KX3 and KPA100 in my camper. I see a SO239 jack on the booster that needs some RF to turn the unit on during transmit and off during receive. I tried letting it run during receive but it makes a low level nasty interference on 20 CW. Does anyone have experience feeding RF to that jack? I feel it would be undesirable to have a branch off my feed line that would act as a tuned stub. I feel the RF switching would be desirable but need to know the best way to do it. Thanks in advance. And 73 Ken. W0CZ w0cz at i29 dot net Sent from my iPad From glen.torr at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 03:01:51 2016 From: glen.torr at gmail.com (Glen Torr) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 17:01:51 +1000 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 for sale, anoher price drop Message-ID: Hi All, For sale, K SN 2680. Includes:- General Coverge RX 700, 2.8K, 6.0 and 15K 8 pole filters. 100 Watt ATU Upgraded DSP Board SS screws K144XV internal 2 meter module. HM2 Original owner, non smoker, little operating time. Built by professional electronics technical officer. AUD $2,500 negotiable. At this price demo and shipping are purchasers responsibility prefer VK 1,2 or 3 but not a show stopper elsewhere. KX3 and KXPA 1000 are now favourites. Cheers Glen Torr, VK1FB From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Mon Jun 27 05:08:56 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 10:08:56 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Check the PX3 NB setting, if the NB level is too high then the spike increases as you describe. 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 23 Jun 2016, at 15:58, Sanger, Joseph wrote: > > I have developed a new problem with my PX3, which has been quietly sitting in a case for the past 6 months. > > Whenever I tune across the display, there is a slowly rising spike at the base frequency (for instance, in USB mode this spike adheres to the left hand edge of the bandpass indicator on PX3 screeen), takes about 2-3 seconds or so to increase in intensity, and then dwarfs any of the signals on the band. This spike tracks across as I tune; it is there whether or not the antenna is connected. I can tune to stations and hear them fine, but the display is barely usable because of this very tall spike that won't go away. I reseated my cables connecting the PX3 to KX3, with no change in behavior. I have no other cables here to swap them out, and am kind of stuck > > I have updated b both KX3 and PX3 to latest firmware, with no change in behavior. > > Any thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated. > > --Joe > --WB2SSB > > Joseph J. Sanger, M.D. > Associate Professor of Radiology > Director, Radiology Informatics > > 462 1st Ave.- OBH C&D 1st fl. Rm 7 > New York, NY. 10016 > > Phone: (212) 263-3434 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. 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The organization accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. > ================================= > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk From jstengrevics at comcast.net Mon Jun 27 06:41:35 2016 From: jstengrevics at comcast.net (John Stengrevics) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 06:41:35 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Setup In-Reply-To: References: <1907475127.1891473.1466989248888.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1907475127.1891473.1466989248888.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Begali sent a defective cable when they delivered my straight key. So, I went out an bought a two-wire (not stereo) cable & plug from Radio Shack. Seems to work fine. Am I doing any damage? John WA1EAZ > On Jun 26, 2016, at 10:38 PM, EricJ wrote: > > K6DGW's post answers most of your questions, but I'll add a couple more points. You have to use a stereo plug for any key plugged into an Elecraft rig. Even straight keys and bugs with only two wires. > > Also, as Fred points out, you can pretty much do whatever you want and left handers often just stick with setting up paddles as righthanders to. I think it's a mistake because of the symmetry in the brain. Right hand bugs are set up with dits on the thumb and dahs on the forefinger. Righthanders do the same with paddles for electronic keyers. Sticking to this convention makes it easier to use someone elses rig or demos at ham conventions with ease as they are usually set up for righthanders. > > Lefthanders can do what they want, of course, and we often do because it's our nature. But lefties should also follow the convention that the thumb is for dits and the forefinger for dahs. Remarkably, a lefthander who does this can sit down with a righthanded bug or paddle/keyer and send with very little practice. That isn't just because lefthanders are more skilled. It's that the brain easily makes the adjustment--even a righthanders brain can handle that. > > Until recently, I've always used a bug or paddle righthanded and a straight key lefthanded because a straight key demands fine motor skills the others don't. As I get older, I've noticed my fine motor skills slightly degrading. So I built a lefthanded bug to see if that would help. It did. My left hand is more precise than my right, always has been. So after 40 years of using righthanded bugs and keyers, I switched to my lefthand. With an evening of practice, my speed and ability was as good as my right hand. I think my LH fist is even a little better than my RH fist ever was, but memory is the second thing to go. > > Eric KE6US > > > > > On 6/26/2016 6:00 PM, Bill Ellis via Elecraft wrote: >> Hi ll, >> Trying to set up a single lever paddle for my K3. The more I read the more confused, for some reason, it gets. Can someone assist with this hook up, do I use a stereo plug, and how do I set up the menu ? >> >> Thanks/73's, >> Bill, WB9CAC >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to eric_csuf at hotmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jstengrevics at comcast.net From donwilh at embarqmail.com Mon Jun 27 07:47:22 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 07:47:22 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Setup In-Reply-To: <1907475127.1891473.1466989248888.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1907475127.1891473.1466989248888.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1907475127.1891473.1466989248888.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <17ee339c-3027-d38b-9778-cf688c0879d3@embarqmail.com> Bill, Single lever paddle connects the same as a dual lever paddle - left contact to the tip and right contact to the ring. The common connects to the sleeve. This is "standard" wiring. Set the K3 CONFIG menu CW PADL to tip=dot for right handed operation or tip=dah for left handed operation. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/26/2016 9:00 PM, Bill Ellis via Elecraft wrote: > Hi ll, > Trying to set up a single lever paddle for my K3. The more I read the more confused, for some reason, it gets. Can someone assist with this hook up, do I use a stereo plug, and how do I set up the menu ? > > From donwilh at embarqmail.com Mon Jun 27 07:50:27 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 07:50:27 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Setup In-Reply-To: References: <1907475127.1891473.1466989248888.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1907475127.1891473.1466989248888.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: John, If you are plugging it into the K3 KEY jack, no harm at all. If you are plugging into a K2, KX2 or KX3, then you must use a stereo plug to keep the transceiver from going into transmit when you plug in the cable. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/27/2016 6:41 AM, John Stengrevics wrote: > Begali sent a defective cable when they delivered my straight key. So, I went out an bought a two-wire (not stereo) cable & plug from Radio Shack. Seems to work fine. Am I doing any damage? > > From Rodenkirch_LLC at msn.com Mon Jun 27 10:15:30 2016 From: Rodenkirch_LLC at msn.com (James Rodenkirch) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 14:15:30 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3 In-Reply-To: <0F497E18-4825-4329-BBE5-94B711E381D2@widomaker.com> References: <1466969654343-7619288.post@n2.nabble.com>, <0F497E18-4825-4329-BBE5-94B711E381D2@widomaker.com> Message-ID: Why didn't you just purchase the USB interconnect cable, Bill? Add two interconnect audio cables for mic and headphone and you're wired for quadrasonic multiplex....well as far as utilizing your computer for contest logging and operating CW as well as JT9/65, PSK-31, etc. What am I missing?? 71.5 de Jim R. K9JWV ________________________________________ From: Nr4c Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 5:59 PM To: Jim Rodenkirch Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3 When I got my KX3, I built a pair of transistor switches that fit in a DE-9 shell. Added cables for RX/TX, PTT and CW KEYING and now it works just like a K3 with CAT, PTT and CW using DTR, and RTS from n1mm all from a standard KUSB that works with the K3. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jun 26, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Jim Rodenkirch wrote: > > Here is my F1 macro for CW contests: > > F1 CQ, {CATA1ASCKY cq TEST * * test;} > > If I enter two "cqs" {CATA1ASCKY cq cq TEST * * test;} the message is not > sent...is that indicative of a limit on characters transferred 'tween N1MM > and the KX3? > > Just tryin' to unnerstand....tnx, in advance, for your reply ---------- Jim > R K9JWV > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/N1MM-and-KX3-tp7619288.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From no9e at arrl.net Mon Jun 27 10:19:48 2016 From: no9e at arrl.net (Ignacy) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 07:19:48 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K2 / K3 audio - and the K2 fan In-Reply-To: <6B2CAC8D-D392-4ABD-90EF-6DDFBE1ADF39@law.du.edu> References: <6B2CAC8D-D392-4ABD-90EF-6DDFBE1ADF39@law.du.edu> Message-ID: <1467037188800-7619312.post@n2.nabble.com> I also feel that K2 is easier to listen to under average conditions than K3. My K3 has the DSP board updated. The issue could be due to 2 factors: AF distortion and AGC properties. K2 has a very sweet AGC. K3 had a very high AF distortion level that was mitigated by a series of upgrades ( at least choke and DSP board). If you read old messages, there is a message by a Russian who looked at initial IMD level (very high) and documented improvements by adding large capacitors in several places. I listened to 10m CW at WPX contest with K3 and SDRPlay, both with good speakers. The last one sounded slightly cleaner although SDRPlay would have easily overloaded with strong signals. It would be interesting to see whether K3S sounds better than K3, perhaps due to a number of small changes. Ignacy, NO9E -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-K3-audio-and-the-K2-fan-tp7619296p7619312.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From nr4c at widomaker.com Mon Jun 27 10:31:10 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 10:31:10 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Setup In-Reply-To: <1907475127.1891473.1466989248888.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1907475127.1891473.1466989248888.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1907475127.1891473.1466989248888.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Which single lever paddle. If it's similar to a Vibroflex VIBROKEYER, simple. It works just liable ant other paddle, one side is Dits and the other is Dahs. The common wire goes to the shield of the plug. One of the other two wires go to Tip and the other to Ring of the plug. On the menu just identify which does what. Oh yeah, it plugs into the Paddles jack. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jun 26, 2016, at 9:00 PM, Bill Ellis via Elecraft wrote: > > Hi ll, > Trying to set up a single lever paddle for my K3. The more I read the more confused, for some reason, it gets. Can someone assist with this hook up, do I use a stereo plug, and how do I set up the menu ? > > Thanks/73's, > Bill, WB9CAC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From Joseph.Sanger at nyumc.org Mon Jun 27 10:43:15 2016 From: Joseph.Sanger at nyumc.org (Sanger, Joseph) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 14:43:15 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Excellent observation, David. That was my problem ... I didn't even remember I had the NB function on the P3 and it was set way high .... Many Thanks! -- Joe -- WB2SSB -----Original Message----- From: David Anderson [mailto:gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 5:09 AM To: Sanger, Joseph Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away Check the PX3 NB setting, if the NB level is too high then the spike increases as you describe. 73 from David GM4JJJ > On 23 Jun 2016, at 15:58, Sanger, Joseph wrote: > > I have developed a new problem with my PX3, which has been quietly sitting in a case for the past 6 months. > > Whenever I tune across the display, there is a slowly rising spike at the base frequency (for instance, in USB mode this spike adheres to the left hand edge of the bandpass indicator on PX3 screeen), takes about 2-3 seconds or so to increase in intensity, and then dwarfs any of the signals on the band. This spike tracks across as I tune; it is there whether or not the antenna is connected. I can tune to stations and hear them fine, but the display is barely usable because of this very tall spike that won't go away. I reseated my cables connecting the PX3 to KX3, with no change in behavior. I have no other cables here to swap them out, and am kind of stuck > > I have updated b both KX3 and PX3 to latest firmware, with no change in behavior. > > Any thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated. > > --Joe > --WB2SSB > > Joseph J. Sanger, M.D. > Associate Professor of Radiology > Director, Radiology Informatics > > 462 1st Ave.- OBH C&D 1st fl. Rm 7 > New York, NY. 10016 > > Phone: (212) 263-3434 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. 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They are present in all K3s sine the release of the DSP board update. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/27/2016 10:19 AM, Ignacy wrote: > If you > read old messages, there is a message by a Russian who looked at initial IMD > level (very high) and documented improvements by adding large capacitors in > several places. > > From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk Mon Jun 27 10:57:01 2016 From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 15:57:01 +0100 Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow that was a lucky guess! I only remembered about it when playing with the PX3 NB level myself yesterday. David Anderson GM4JJJ > On 27 Jun 2016, at 15:43, Sanger, Joseph wrote: > > Excellent observation, David. That was my problem ... I didn't even remember I had the NB function on the P3 and it was set way high .... > Many Thanks! > > -- Joe > -- WB2SSB > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Anderson [mailto:gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk] > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 5:09 AM > To: Sanger, Joseph > Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away > > Check the PX3 NB setting, if the NB level is too high then the spike increases as you describe. > > 73 from David GM4JJJ > >> On 23 Jun 2016, at 15:58, Sanger, Joseph wrote: >> >> I have developed a new problem with my PX3, which has been quietly sitting in a case for the past 6 months. >> >> Whenever I tune across the display, there is a slowly rising spike at the base frequency (for instance, in USB mode this spike adheres to the left hand edge of the bandpass indicator on PX3 screeen), takes about 2-3 seconds or so to increase in intensity, and then dwarfs any of the signals on the band. This spike tracks across as I tune; it is there whether or not the antenna is connected. I can tune to stations and hear them fine, but the display is barely usable because of this very tall spike that won't go away. I reseated my cables connecting the PX3 to KX3, with no change in behavior. I have no other cables here to swap them out, and am kind of stuck >> >> I have updated b both KX3 and PX3 to latest firmware, with no change in behavior. >> >> Any thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated. >> >> --Joe >> --WB2SSB >> >> Joseph J. Sanger, M.D. >> Associate Professor of Radiology >> Director, Radiology Informatics >> >> 462 1st Ave.- OBH C&D 1st fl. Rm 7 >> New York, NY. 10016 >> >> Phone: (212) 263-3434 >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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I only remembered about it when playing with the PX3 NB level myself yesterday. David Anderson GM4JJJ > On 27 Jun 2016, at 15:43, Sanger, Joseph wrote: > > Excellent observation, David. That was my problem ... I didn't even remember I had the NB function on the P3 and it was set way high .... > Many Thanks! > > -- Joe > -- WB2SSB > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Anderson [mailto:gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk] > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 5:09 AM > To: Sanger, Joseph > Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PX3 Spike won't go away > > Check the PX3 NB setting, if the NB level is too high then the spike increases as you describe. > > 73 from David GM4JJJ > >> On 23 Jun 2016, at 15:58, Sanger, Joseph wrote: >> >> I have developed a new problem with my PX3, which has been quietly sitting in a case for the past 6 months. >> >> Whenever I tune across the display, there is a slowly rising spike at the base frequency (for instance, in USB mode this spike adheres to the left hand edge of the bandpass indicator on PX3 screeen), takes about 2-3 seconds or so to increase in intensity, and then dwarfs any of the signals on the band. This spike tracks across as I tune; it is there whether or not the antenna is connected. I can tune to stations and hear them fine, but the display is barely usable because of this very tall spike that won't go away. I reseated my cables connecting the PX3 to KX3, with no change in behavior. I have no other cables here to swap them out, and am kind of stuck >> >> I have updated b both KX3 and PX3 to latest firmware, with no change in behavior. >> >> Any thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated. >> >> --Joe >> --WB2SSB >> >> Joseph J. Sanger, M.D. >> Associate Professor of Radiology >> Director, Radiology Informatics >> >> 462 1st Ave.- OBH C&D 1st fl. Rm 7 >> New York, NY. 10016 >> >> Phone: (212) 263-3434 >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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The organization accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ================================= From w2kj at bellsouth.net Mon Jun 27 11:01:54 2016 From: w2kj at bellsouth.net (Joe W2KJ) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 11:01:54 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 and Field Day Message-ID: <1DBF51DA-0DFA-454F-B448-669D45A93EA4@bellsouth.net> Howdy Gang: Was able to take my KX2 out for Field Day for a while on Sunday and made a bunch of contacts. Operated all CW save for one SSB contact...just to try that mode out (grin). I was pleasantly surprised at how well the KX2 handled all of the strong signals on the bands...no overload and selectivity was excellent. Even worked stations on 15 and 10M.....bands I had presumed dead based on zero activity during the previous week. Purchased the rig with the accessory battery and charger and they play well together. Hardly put a dent in the battery after an hour or so of operating. Overall, a really fun experience for the first time out portable with the KX2....and it performed extremely well. With its internal tuner and battery and very small size, the KX2 is an excellent choice for portable ops. I thought the KX3 was the ultimate fun-portable rig......until now (grin). Elecraft has hit another one out of the park with this little rig. 73, Joe W2KJ I QRP, therefore I am From doug at ellmore.net Mon Jun 27 11:09:49 2016 From: doug at ellmore.net (Doug Ellmore) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 11:09:49 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3 Message-ID: Jim, I know this may be sideways to your technical issue, but for those who do S&P in a contest or FD (which is an operating event), waiting for long CQs can be frustrating. Keeping it short can increase your QSO rate and the QSO rate of those doing S&B. Here are the scenarios: CONTESTING Calling station: CQ Test k [pause 3-5 sec before sending CQ again] S&P station: Calling station S&P station: Calling station TU QRZ k DXING For DXing I use the following: Calling station: Calling station: CQ DX k [pause 3-5 sec before sending CQ again] or CQ DX UP [pause 3-5 sec before sending CQ again] S&P station: Calling station: S&P station: TU Calling station: TU QRZ or TU QRZ UP Both scenario allow as many operators to work each other in the least amount of time. Also, for the faster interface with less lag, I use a WinKeyer or Winkeyer Lite. There is essentially no delay so you can have instant function key or typing from N1MM+. The Win4K3 suite software also support the WinKeyer, too. So you can program function keys and buttons in the terminal window just like N1MM+. 73 Doug NA1DX K9JWV wrote: Here is my F1 macro for CW contests: F1 CQ, {CATA1ASCKY cq TEST * * test;} If I enter two "cqs" {CATA1ASCKY cq cq TEST * * test;} the message is not sent...is that indicative of a limit on characters transferred 'tween N1MM and the KX3? -- Doug Ellmore doug at ellmore.net Computer Scientists do precision guess work based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge. From doug at ellmore.net Mon Jun 27 11:24:49 2016 From: doug at ellmore.net (Doug Ellmore) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 11:24:49 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX3, K3, K3S CW / SSB and Audio EQ Message-ID: I tend to use 500 hz cw tone because it is easy to setup other apps with that. Also, one of the tricks I use for less noise is setting the RX EQ with everything to lowest setting EXCEPT 400 hz. I set 400hz +1. Try it, you might like it. For SSB the RX EQ audio is flat. I then set TX EQ audio with everything below 400 hz at -3, 400 hz flat, then everything above 400 hz +8 or greater. Your audio will punch through pileups. Mic gain using Heil or Elecraft mics are set to high bias with mic gain at 27 +/-3 and compression 26+/-3 watching the ALC to 4-5 bars. For AM and FM audio is set flat. I play with AM some depending on Heil mics used. I get great audio reports all over the world. 73 Doug NA1DX From n6kr at elecraft.com Mon Jun 27 12:19:54 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 09:19:54 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day report Message-ID: Hi all, This year my son and I once again joined the K6SRA effort at Almaden Quicksilver park in San Jose. This is a well-organized, large 3A operation, with lots of radios, big batteries, solar panels, and no shortage of unhealthy snacks. We had many drop-bys of hams and non-hams. Lots of excellent PR. At one point I had three 9 or 10 year olds kicking the tires on my KX2, seeing their names in CW and arguing over who would get to log the next contact. Oh, and lots of questions, like "what is a radio signal?" Did I mention it was hot? Must have been close to 100 F at midday. After working towards the K6SRA total for awhile, I unplugged the KX2 from the group's Yagi, plugged in a 4'-long 20 meter whip, and headed out for some /PM (pedestrian mobile) operation. I had a gent with me who was very skeptical of what could be done with a hand-held radio, whip, and trailing counterpoise wire. While standing under a tree, we switched to 20 meters and started tuning around. Using the radio like an HT, running 10 watts (internal battery), we worked several stations in SSB, RTTY, and CW modes. Best DX while handheld was Massachusetts and Hawaii. This all happened over the course of about 3 minutes. I did discover a couple of minor firmware bugs, in keeping with long Field Day tradition. 73, Wayne N6KR From w7ox at socal.rr.com Mon Jun 27 12:36:59 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 09:36:59 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day report In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <37af2a53-62df-4598-86c5-01d3b2122da2@socal.rr.com> Nice report, Wayne:-) Re "I did discover a couple of minor firmware bugs, in keeping with long Field Day tradition.": I guess DDT won't get rid of those! Phil W7OX On 6/27/16 9:19 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Hi all, > > This year my son and I once again joined the K6SRA effort at Almaden Quicksilver park in San Jose. This is a well-organized, large 3A operation, with lots of radios, big batteries, solar panels, and no shortage of unhealthy snacks. > > We had many drop-bys of hams and non-hams. Lots of excellent PR. At one point I had three 9 or 10 year olds kicking the tires on my KX2, seeing their names in CW and arguing over who would get to log the next contact. Oh, and lots of questions, like "what is a radio signal?" > > Did I mention it was hot? Must have been close to 100 F at midday. > > After working towards the K6SRA total for awhile, I unplugged the KX2 from the group's Yagi, plugged in a 4'-long 20 meter whip, and headed out for some /PM (pedestrian mobile) operation. I had a gent with me who was very skeptical of what could be done with a hand-held radio, whip, and trailing counterpoise wire. > > While standing under a tree, we switched to 20 meters and started tuning around. Using the radio like an HT, running 10 watts (internal battery), we worked several stations in SSB, RTTY, and CW modes. Best DX while handheld was Massachusetts and Hawaii. This all happened over the course of about 3 minutes. > > I did discover a couple of minor firmware bugs, in keeping with long Field Day tradition. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR From rodenkirch_llc at msn.com Mon Jun 27 13:28:47 2016 From: rodenkirch_llc at msn.com (Jim Rodenkirch) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 10:28:47 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3 In-Reply-To: References: <1466969654343-7619288.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1467048527913-7619323.post@n2.nabble.com> My query was answered, Doug...that's good 'cuz now we know the contesting s/w limits. I understand and appreciate your sideways focus on "short and sweet" for most contests....that doesn't work well, necessarily, during, for instance, a stew perry 160 event where us qrp ops are coveted...."more sending" is, often, a requirement. I see you're a "FD isn't a contest" devote.....you've sipped the ARRL 'non-contest' kool-aid....yeah, sure....that's why the arrl scores entries, 'cuz it's not a contest....hi hi 71.5 Jim R. K9JWV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/N1MM-and-KX3-tp7619288p7619323.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From lists at subich.com Mon Jun 27 13:40:08 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 13:40:08 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K2 / K3 audio - and the K2 fan In-Reply-To: <1467037188800-7619312.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <6B2CAC8D-D392-4ABD-90EF-6DDFBE1ADF39@law.du.edu> <1467037188800-7619312.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: > The issue could be due to 2 factors: AF distortion and AGC > properties. K2 has a very sweet AGC. K3 had a very high AF distortion > level that was mitigated by a series of upgrades ( at least choke and > DSP board). If you read old messages, there is a message by a Russian > who looked at initial IMD level (very high) and documented > improvements by adding large capacitors in several places. If you bother to put most transceivers - particularly older rigs with analog IF and product detector - on an audio spectrum analyzer and feed them a source of broadband RF noise you will find the audio response has a falling characteristic. The response falls off between 3 and 6 dB per octave above 1 KHz. One can accomplish that in the K3 by setting SSB RX EQ to 1600 = -3, 2400 = -5 and 3200 = -6 and by setting CW RX EQ similarly. I tend to set both 50 and 100 Hz bands to -16, 200 to -6, 400, 800 & 1600 to 0, 2400 to -4 and 3200 to -6 as that significantly reduces both low frequency "rumble" and high frequency "hiss". The other thing to do to make the K3 less noisy (less hiss) is to increase the AGC threshold and decrease the AGC Slope so the AGC system does not "pump up" the background noise. Careful adjustment of AGC parameters and RX EQ will result in a very "comfortable" sounding K3/K3S. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 6/27/2016 10:19 AM, Ignacy wrote: > I also feel that K2 is easier to listen to under average conditions than K3. > My K3 has the DSP board updated. > > The issue could be due to 2 factors: AF distortion and AGC properties. K2 > has a very sweet AGC. K3 had a very high AF distortion level that was > mitigated by a series of upgrades ( at least choke and DSP board). If you > read old messages, there is a message by a Russian who looked at initial IMD > level (very high) and documented improvements by adding large capacitors in > several places. > > I listened to 10m CW at WPX contest with K3 and SDRPlay, both with good > speakers. The last one sounded slightly cleaner although SDRPlay would have > easily overloaded with strong signals. It would be interesting to see > whether K3S sounds better than K3, perhaps due to a number of small changes. > > Ignacy, NO9E > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-K3-audio-and-the-K2-fan-tp7619296p7619312.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to lists at subich.com > From dave.w0zf at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 14:00:53 2016 From: dave.w0zf at gmail.com (Dave Fugleberg) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 18:00:53 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Key Recommendation In-Reply-To: References: <004b01d1ce40$ad4e1760$07ea4620$@biz> Message-ID: One other thing to add for the original poster... Something that's really helped me is to use a program called Iambic Master to help me learn how to send well with paddles. It requires you to have a winkey-compatible keyer connected to a PC (I use a Microham unit). You plug your paddles into the keyer, and the program shows you an exchange, which you must 'send' properly before moving on. This showed me how truly awful my timing between words and letters was. On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:36 PM Dale Putnam wrote: > I have a J-38 from WWII.. original base, and very nice, with the fabric > covered cable, FS. > > photos available too. > > And I recommend it... SKCC #87 loves it. > > > Have a great day, > --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy > > > > ________________________________ > From: Elecraft on behalf of Bill < > w2blc at nycap.rr.com> > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 12:34 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Key Recommendation > > Long arm keys, typically those found in maritime service, are the most > pleasant of the straight keys to use. They are expensive. > > An inexpensive alternative is the Czech key seen at: > http://www.uv3r.com/CzechMorseKeys/ has a nice feel also. They can be > [http://www.uv3r.com/CzechMorseKeys/images/P1000781b_opt.jpg]< > http://www.uv3r.com/CzechMorseKeys/> > > Czech Morse Keys - UV-3R > www.uv3r.com > Czech army, military morse code key importers and Baofeng UV-3R suppliers > > > > found from $25 to $60 on the Internet. Their good action is due to their > folded long-arm design. I have one and it is my straight key of preference. > > If you go for a bug, nothing beats the VizBug at: > http://vizkey.com/order.html#90degreevizbug It is a small and very > quiet bug (no thrashing machine noises). > > I have a Vibroplex single lever paddle that I have been using since the > early 60s. Perfect for a normal keyer (don't care much for the one in > the K3). > > I have never used a two paddle anything - so no comments about them. > > Want to learn more about keys and CW operation in general? Take a look > at: http://radiotelegraphy.net/ > > I have no business interests in any of the above and really don't care > if you choose an Amplidan or just tap two bare wires together - both of > which will get the same job done. > > Bill W2BLC K-Line > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to daleputnam at hotmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dave.w0zf at gmail.com > From va3mw at portcredit.net Mon Jun 27 14:18:28 2016 From: va3mw at portcredit.net (Michael Walker) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 14:18:28 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K8ZOA SK and Clifton Laboratories In-Reply-To: References: <81A32CAF-F264-4713-A8AC-1BB67F1D840A@ecsecurityinc.com> Message-ID: Ed Thanks for sharing. Jack helped me debug a problem in my Pixel loop. He designed the pre-amp for it. He was a pretty smart guy. Mike va3mw On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Ed Muns wrote: > From today's Daily DX: > > On Wednesday K8ZOA, Jack R. Smith, passed away from liver, kidney and > respiratory complications. He was both a lawyer and engineer working > for both the FCC and private practice law firms. Jack was an inventor > and created Clifton Laboratories. Earlier this month DX Engineering > purchased Clifton Laboratories and plans to continue manufacturing > those "products in the exact same fashion and service Jack did", says > K3LR, Tim Duffy, Chief Operating Officer of DX Engineering. > > Ed W0YK > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to va3mw at portcredit.net > From n6kr at elecraft.com Mon Jun 27 14:31:37 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 11:31:37 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Mac/Linux version of KX2 Utility ready for test Message-ID: <80FE9CE4-8E00-44BC-94C3-42E1BB16284F@elecraft.com> Hi all, If you'd like to try the Mac/Linux KX2 Utility, please email me directly. I'll take the first 10 or so. With any luck we'll get it to you today or tomorrow, and go to beta shortly thereafter, meaning that the software will be available on our website. 73, Wayne N6KR From craig at powersmith.net Mon Jun 27 14:31:58 2016 From: craig at powersmith.net (Craig Smith) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 12:31:58 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] K8ZOA SK and Clifton Laboratories In-Reply-To: References: <81A32CAF-F264-4713-A8AC-1BB67F1D840A@ecsecurityinc.com> Message-ID: Jack was indeed a fine gentleman and an excellent designer. Never had the pleasure of a face-to-face meeting, but was the recipient of his expertise and kindness more than once. I really appreciated his designs. Excellent performance, of course, but also incredible attention to detail in terms of documentation and user support. When I was active in CW contesting he was kind enough to lend me some prototype equipment for evaluation. The ham community is much the poorer for his loss. 73 Craig AC0DS From hhoyt at mebtel.net Mon Jun 27 14:35:24 2016 From: hhoyt at mebtel.net (Howard Hoyt) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 14:35:24 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] Field Day report In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42b3bd69-a037-bba8-d025-00e639ae43ea@mebtel.net> This Field Day I operated once again with W4EZ the Orange County Radio Amateurs in Hillsborough, NC in an 8A effort. It was a lot of work setting up 6 towers and many wire antennas in mid-90? heat and high humidity but the end result was a lot of fun and Qs. Despite our best efforts at eliminating cross-interference between stations beforehand by antenna placement, we suffered quite a bit of in-band phase noise interference. All three CW stations and one SSB station were using K3s, and no K3 station ever interfered with anyone else or with each other. Much credit is due to Elecraft for the transmit purity and receive performance of this superb rig. However, we experienced some pretty severe in-band phase noise interference ranging from S3-4 on 40 and 20M from various YaeComWood rigs, to an ear-shattering received S8-9 from a TS-570 running SSB on 15M when the noise floor was S0. Granted, with relatively close antenna spacing Field Day is a torture test for transmit purity, but sometimes it was difficult to tolerate...or operate. Many of us now agree we would optimally be an all K3 Field Day next year but that is most likely out of the question. I am a big fan of the KX3, although for Field Day purposes it would be great if its phase noise was 10-20 dB less; more in line with that of the K3. That being said, a KX3 running digi caused less interference than just about all the non-Elecraft rigs. One problem solving this scenario is the political issue of trying to tell someone they cannot bring their rig to the party. We did discuss holding a testing session next year to evaluate phase noise beforehand and accept or deny use of the rig based on performance, and maybe this will be viewed as being more impartial. After witnessing the problem first-hand, at least one op said he was intending to get an Elecraft rig. Elecraft owners are in the minority overall, so instead of Field Day being an inclusive club event, telling people it will be K3 only would achieve the opposite. Other than the phase noise issue, FD was once again a lot of fun and camaraderie! Cheers & 73, Howie - WA4PSC From alsopb at comcast.net Mon Jun 27 15:20:56 2016 From: alsopb at comcast.net (brian) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 19:20:56 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K8ZOA SK and Clifton Laboratories In-Reply-To: References: <81A32CAF-F264-4713-A8AC-1BB67F1D840A@ecsecurityinc.com> Message-ID: <57717C98.9010002@comcast.net> Jack was quite approachable. I talked to him a number of times on the phone with rather elementary questions regarding his studies and kits. He was always polite and sent me down the right path. His well designed, affordable kits and detailed webpages were really appreciated. Glad to see that DX Engineering is picking up the kits. A true embodiment of Ham Radio at its best. RIP Jack. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 6/27/2016 18:31 PM, Craig Smith wrote: > Jack was indeed a fine gentleman and an excellent designer. Never had the pleasure of a face-to-face meeting, but was the recipient of his expertise and kindness more than once. > > I really appreciated his designs. Excellent performance, of course, but also incredible attention to detail in terms of documentation and user support. When I was active in CW contesting he was kind enough to lend me some prototype equipment for evaluation. > > The ham community is much the poorer for his loss. > > 73 Craig AC0DS > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to alsopb at comcast.net > From billw81 at bellsouth.net Mon Jun 27 15:24:57 2016 From: billw81 at bellsouth.net (Ai4PF) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 12:24:57 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K3 connect cable wspr 2 Message-ID: <1467055497675-7619331.post@n2.nabble.com> I regularly and successfully use all available digital modes. I recently downloaded the updated version 1.6 of jt65x that includes wspr2. The instructions say an interface cable using a serial port port to key the PTT line is required in order to TX. I already have this connection going from the rs232 serial to the the rear of the P3 and then to the K3, but no matter what I can't get the program to go into TX mode. Does anyone have a similar working setup? Appreciate any suggestions. Bill, Ai4pf -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-connect-cable-wspr-2-tp7619331.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ny9h at arrl.net Mon Jun 27 15:40:53 2016 From: ny9h at arrl.net (Bill Steffey NY9H) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 15:40:53 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K8ZOA SK and Clifton Laboratories In-Reply-To: <57717C98.9010002@comcast.net> References: <81A32CAF-F264-4713-A8AC-1BB67F1D840A@ecsecurityinc.com> <57717C98.9010002@comcast.net> Message-ID: way back when the K2 was THE elecraft radio.... I bought from Jack a Panadapter, a kit, quite a kit. It plugged into a Jack supplied jack on the back of the K2 for an IF tap. While I enjoyed the scope, continuing my interest in such devices, I was blown away at the documentation for the unit. Fold out page by page of every circuit, with voltages ac & dc & pictorials of scope measurements of almost every junction. Never seen quite as fine a set of docs, far beyond the 100+ pages of service manuals from my ICOMS. Sold the Z-90 panadapter ...but I have his preamp on my Pixel, now DX Engineering loop!!! Someone mentioned he was an ex-tektronixs guy, which I would well believe. Another great contributor lost to our Hobby-Service-Sport. bill ny9h From w6jhb at me.com Mon Jun 27 15:43:41 2016 From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 12:43:41 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 connect cable wspr 2 In-Reply-To: <1467055497675-7619331.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1467055497675-7619331.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <60F192EF-E56F-47BD-B028-CACECB7AC29A@me.com> Bill - I just use the Elecraft supplied serial-USB cable. There is no difference between JT65/JT9 and WSPR-2 as far as making the rig transmit. Most of us use the VOX (preferred) method of having the K3, K3s, or KX3 go into transmit. When you put WSJT-X into WSPR-2 mode, you do have to manually click the Enable TX button. If your audio settings are sufficient to transmit JT65 and or JT9, nothing special is needed for WSPR-2. Jim / W6JHB > On Monday, Jun 27, 2016, at Monday, 12:24 PM, Ai4PF wrote: > > I regularly and successfully use all available digital modes. I recently > downloaded the updated version 1.6 of jt65x that includes wspr2. The > instructions say an interface cable using a serial port port to key the PTT > line is required in order to TX. I already have this connection going from > the rs232 serial to the the rear of the P3 and then to the K3, but no matter > what I can't get the program to go into TX mode. > > Does anyone have a similar working setup? Appreciate any suggestions. > > Bill, Ai4pf > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-connect-cable-wspr-2-tp7619331.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w6jhb at me.com From k9ztv at socket.net Mon Jun 27 16:20:43 2016 From: k9ztv at socket.net (KENT TRIMBLE) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 15:20:43 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] THE EFFORT OF FIELD DAY In-Reply-To: <42b3bd69-a037-bba8-d025-00e639ae43ea@mebtel.net> References: <42b3bd69-a037-bba8-d025-00e639ae43ea@mebtel.net> Message-ID: I can only shake my head in awe of Howie's 8-transmitter FD, as well as other double-digit multi-transmitter operations . My hat's off to that kind of effort, believe me. We used to do that, too. But several years ago the Mid-MO Amateur Radio Club (N?SS) of Jefferson City, Missouri, decided on wire-only Field Days. We did so for several reasons . . . (1) those doing the work are aging; (2) those doing the work have no business being in the sun very long; (3) those doing the work are usually those doing the operating; (4) Missouri weather always throws 90-degrees and 100% humidity at us; and (5) none of us enjoy the labor of putting metal things together only to take them apart again. Aside from Qs and scores, the goal for me (at 71) is getting the darn things up as fast as possible on Friday evening, seeing them stay up for the duration, and getting the heck out of there when it's over. To that end, erection of three OCF dipoles on 30-foot masts aligned end-to-end with 50-feet of separation took 45 minutes. Tear-down and site clean-up took exactly 33-minutes. /THOSE/ are the reasons our 25-man crew happily stays at 2A! Equipment-wise, we use nothing but K3s (one each for CW, SSB, GOTA, VHF). The CW and SSB rigs were often on the same bands at the same time with no interference, no phase noise, and no activation of carrier-operated relays. Both HF stations stayed busy all weekend. Again, my salute to the big clubs, the big antenna farms, and the big scores. But I suspect our level of fun was the same, with a whale of a lot /less/ effort. 73, Kent Trimble, K9ZTV Jefferson City, Missouri On 6/27/2016 1:35 PM, Howard Hoyt wrote: > This Field Day I operated once again with W4EZ the Orange County Radio > Amateurs in Hillsborough, NC in an 8A effort. It was a lot of work > setting up 6 towers and many wire antennas in mid-90? heat and high > humidity but the end result was a lot of fun and Qs. > > Despite our best efforts at eliminating cross-interference between > stations beforehand by antenna placement, we suffered quite a bit of > in-band phase noise interference. All three CW stations and one SSB > station were using K3s, and no K3 station ever interfered with anyone > else or with each other. Much credit is due to Elecraft for the > transmit purity and receive performance of this superb rig. However, > we experienced some pretty severe in-band phase noise interference > ranging from S3-4 on 40 and 20M from various YaeComWood rigs, to an > ear-shattering received S8-9 from a TS-570 running SSB on 15M when the > noise floor was S0. Granted, with relatively close antenna spacing > Field Day is a torture test for transmit purity, but sometimes it was > difficult to tolerate...or operate. > > Many of us now agree we would optimally be an all K3 Field Day next > year but that is most likely out of the question. I am a big fan of > the KX3, although for Field Day purposes it would be great if its > phase noise was 10-20 dB less; more in line with that of the K3. That > being said, a KX3 running digi caused less interference than just > about all the non-Elecraft rigs. > > One problem solving this scenario is the political issue of trying to > tell someone they cannot bring their rig to the party. We did > discuss holding a testing session next year to evaluate phase noise > beforehand and accept or deny use of the rig based on performance, and > maybe this will be viewed as being more impartial. After witnessing > the problem first-hand, at least one op said he was intending to get > an Elecraft rig. Elecraft owners are in the minority overall, so > instead of Field Day being an inclusive club event, telling people it > will be K3 only would achieve the opposite. > > Other than the phase noise issue, FD was once again a lot of fun and > camaraderie! > > Cheers & 73, > Howie - WA4PSC > ______________________________________________________________ From hhoyt at mebtel.net Mon Jun 27 16:44:23 2016 From: hhoyt at mebtel.net (Howard Hoyt) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 16:44:23 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] THE EFFORT OF FIELD DAY In-Reply-To: References: <42b3bd69-a037-bba8-d025-00e639ae43ea@mebtel.net> Message-ID: <621193fa-4b8a-5f9a-c7a5-6ad6edab463b@mebtel.net> Hi Kent, Funny you should mention this idea of minimizing effort, our crew had discussed this exact issue this year...of course we blamed it on the 90+? and humidity, but it is true, we should all be aware of our limitations as we age....bring on the youngsters! Cheers & 73, Howie - WA4PSC On 6/27/2016 4:20 PM, KENT TRIMBLE wrote: > I can only shake my head in awe of Howie's 8-transmitter FD, as well > as other double-digit multi-transmitter operations . My hat's off to > that kind of effort, believe me. > > We used to do that, too. > > But several years ago the Mid-MO Amateur Radio Club (N?SS) of > Jefferson City, Missouri, decided on wire-only Field Days. We did so > for several reasons . . . (1) those doing the work are aging; (2) > those doing the work have no business being in the sun very long; (3) > those doing the work are usually those doing the operating; (4) > Missouri weather always throws 90-degrees and 100% humidity at us; > and (5) none of us enjoy the labor of putting metal things together > only to take them apart again. > > Aside from Qs and scores, the goal for me (at 71) is getting the darn > things up as fast as possible on Friday evening, seeing them stay up > for the duration, and getting the heck out of there when it's over. > To that end, erection of three OCF dipoles on 30-foot masts aligned > end-to-end with 50-feet of separation took 45 minutes. Tear-down and > site clean-up took exactly 33-minutes. > > /THOSE/ are the reasons our 25-man crew happily stays at 2A! > > Equipment-wise, we use nothing but K3s (one each for CW, SSB, GOTA, > VHF). The CW and SSB rigs were often on the same bands at the same > time with no interference, no phase noise, and no activation of > carrier-operated relays. Both HF stations stayed busy all weekend. > > Again, my salute to the big clubs, the big antenna farms, and the big > scores. > > But I suspect our level of fun was the same, with a whale of a lot > /less/ effort. > > 73, > > Kent Trimble, K9ZTV > Jefferson City, Missouri > > > > > > > > > > On 6/27/2016 1:35 PM, Howard Hoyt wrote: >> This Field Day I operated once again with W4EZ the Orange County >> Radio Amateurs in Hillsborough, NC in an 8A effort. It was a lot of >> work setting up 6 towers and many wire antennas in mid-90? heat and >> high humidity but the end result was a lot of fun and Qs. >> >> Despite our best efforts at eliminating cross-interference between >> stations beforehand by antenna placement, we suffered quite a bit of >> in-band phase noise interference. All three CW stations and one SSB >> station were using K3s, and no K3 station ever interfered with anyone >> else or with each other. Much credit is due to Elecraft for the >> transmit purity and receive performance of this superb rig. However, >> we experienced some pretty severe in-band phase noise interference >> ranging from S3-4 on 40 and 20M from various YaeComWood rigs, to an >> ear-shattering received S8-9 from a TS-570 running SSB on 15M when >> the noise floor was S0. Granted, with relatively close antenna >> spacing Field Day is a torture test for transmit purity, but >> sometimes it was difficult to tolerate...or operate. >> >> Many of us now agree we would optimally be an all K3 Field Day next >> year but that is most likely out of the question. I am a big fan of >> the KX3, although for Field Day purposes it would be great if its >> phase noise was 10-20 dB less; more in line with that of the K3. That >> being said, a KX3 running digi caused less interference than just >> about all the non-Elecraft rigs. >> >> One problem solving this scenario is the political issue of trying to >> tell someone they cannot bring their rig to the party. We did >> discuss holding a testing session next year to evaluate phase noise >> beforehand and accept or deny use of the rig based on performance, >> and maybe this will be viewed as being more impartial. After >> witnessing the problem first-hand, at least one op said he was >> intending to get an Elecraft rig. Elecraft owners are in the minority >> overall, so instead of Field Day being an inclusive club event, >> telling people it will be K3 only would achieve the opposite. >> >> Other than the phase noise issue, FD was once again a lot of fun and >> camaraderie! >> >> Cheers & 73, >> Howie - WA4PSC >> ______________________________________________________________ > From k3ndm at comcast.net Mon Jun 27 17:02:45 2016 From: k3ndm at comcast.net (Barry LaZar) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 21:02:45 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Key Recommendation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I spent a lot of time this weekend copying CW operators who were superb and a lot who barely know how to send. I was in the latter category and quite oftenand I would receive a QLF??. I built an accukeyer featured in QST a lot of years ago and in a number of the ARRL Handbooks. I bought a FYO paddle set which is what the Bencher looks like. I never did use iambic sending, nor do I today. However, the result was no more QLF?, and my fatigue level is much lower after a long weekend. My point is you need to really practice to get good with a key so you can be read. An electronic keyer, like in the Elecraft radios or a Winkeyer used with a dual or single paddle set will really clean up your sending and lessen your fatigue, even if you never use the iambic features available. 73, Barry K3NDM ------ Original Message ------ From: "Dave Fugleberg" To: "Dale Putnam" ; "Bill" ; "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" Sent: 6/27/2016 2:00:53 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Key Recommendation >One other thing to add for the original poster... >Something that's really helped me is to use a program called Iambic >Master >to help me learn how to send well with paddles. It requires you to have >a >winkey-compatible keyer connected to a PC (I use a Microham unit). >You plug your paddles into the keyer, and the program shows you an >exchange, which you must 'send' properly before moving on. This showed >me >how truly awful my timing between words and letters was. >On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:36 PM Dale Putnam >wrote: > >> I have a J-38 from WWII.. original base, and very nice, with the >>fabric >> covered cable, FS. >> >> photos available too. >> >> And I recommend it... SKCC #87 loves it. >> >> >> Have a great day, >> --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Elecraft on behalf of Bill < >> w2blc at nycap.rr.com> >> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 12:34 PM >> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Key Recommendation >> >> Long arm keys, typically those found in maritime service, are the >>most >> pleasant of the straight keys to use. They are expensive. >> >> An inexpensive alternative is the Czech key seen at: >> http://www.uv3r.com/CzechMorseKeys/ has a nice feel also. They can be >> [http://www.uv3r.com/CzechMorseKeys/images/P1000781b_opt.jpg]< >> http://www.uv3r.com/CzechMorseKeys/> >> >> Czech Morse Keys - UV-3R >> www.uv3r.com >> Czech army, military morse code key importers and Baofeng UV-3R >>suppliers >> >> >> >> found from $25 to $60 on the Internet. Their good action is due to >>their >> folded long-arm design. I have one and it is my straight key of >>preference. >> >> If you go for a bug, nothing beats the VizBug at: >> http://vizkey.com/order.html#90degreevizbug It is a small and very >> quiet bug (no thrashing machine noises). >> >> I have a Vibroplex single lever paddle that I have been using since >>the >> early 60s. Perfect for a normal keyer (don't care much for the one in >> the K3). >> >> I have never used a two paddle anything - so no comments about them. >> >> Want to learn more about keys and CW operation in general? Take a >>look >> at: http://radiotelegraphy.net/ >> >> I have no business interests in any of the above and really don't >>care >> if you choose an Amplidan or just tap two bare wires together - both >>of >> which will get the same job done. >> >> Bill W2BLC K-Line >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to daleputnam at hotmail.com >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to dave.w0zf at gmail.com >> >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to k3ndm at comcast.net From k3ndm at comcast.net Mon Jun 27 17:22:33 2016 From: k3ndm at comcast.net (Barry LaZar) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 21:22:33 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Setup In-Reply-To: <1907475127.1891473.1466989248888.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Bill, To make it simple, a single lever paddle works essentially like a dual paddle one, push to one side for dots and the other for dashes. For most operators, that is all that is needed. You will need to set the menu item for keyer to tip=dot, or reverse if you are left handed. If you are asking this question, iambic operation should not be your worry at this point. Just make sure you have a cable that is 2 conductor with a shield. One wire should go to the dot connection on the paddle and the other to the dash side. Just make sure to note which color you used for which. connect the dot side to the connect tip, the dash side to the ring, and the ground to the ground on the connector. You'll be ready to go. Your next problem will be to get the feel, setting sending speed, and adjusting the screws and adjustments on the paddle so it feels good to you. Start slowly and work up. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Bill Ellis via Elecraft" To: "Elecraft Reflector" ; "Elecraft Support" Sent: 6/26/2016 9:00:48 PM Subject: [Elecraft] CW Setup >Hi ll, >Trying to set up a single lever paddle for my K3. The more I read the >more confused, for some reason, it gets. Can someone assist with this >hook up, do I use a stereo plug, and how do I set up the menu ? > >Thanks/73's, >Bill, WB9CAC >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to k3ndm at comcast.net From gio.flynn at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 18:08:26 2016 From: gio.flynn at gmail.com (John Flynn) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 18:08:26 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 and Field Day In-Reply-To: <1DBF51DA-0DFA-454F-B448-669D45A93EA4@bellsouth.net> References: <1DBF51DA-0DFA-454F-B448-669D45A93EA4@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: Hi Joe. Antenna? Tnx es 73, John K4ARQ On Jun 27, 2016 11:03, "Joe W2KJ" wrote: > Howdy Gang: > > Was able to take my KX2 out for Field Day for a while on Sunday and made a > bunch of contacts. > > Operated all CW save for one SSB contact...just to try that mode out > (grin). > > I was pleasantly surprised at how well the KX2 handled all of the strong > signals on the bands...no overload and selectivity was excellent. > > Even worked stations on 15 and 10M.....bands I had presumed dead based on > zero activity during the previous week. > > Purchased the rig with the accessory battery and charger and they play > well together. > > Hardly put a dent in the battery after an hour or so of operating. > > Overall, a really fun experience for the first time out portable with the > KX2....and it performed extremely well. > > With its internal tuner and battery and very small size, the KX2 is an > excellent choice for portable ops. > > I thought the KX3 was the ultimate fun-portable rig......until now (grin). > > Elecraft has hit another one out of the park with this little rig. > > > 73, Joe W2KJ > > I QRP, therefore I am > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gio.flynn at gmail.com > From BobK8IA at aol.com Mon Jun 27 18:48:41 2016 From: BobK8IA at aol.com (BobK8IA at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 18:48:41 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K8ZOA SK and Clifton Laboratories Message-ID: <235410.385e7289.44a30749@aol.com> Tnx for posting Ed. Jack K8ZOA and I were friends for a long time. Back to the days in the mid-late 1960's when we were in EE studies at Wayne State University the same time. We were lab partners in most every undergraduate EE course that had a lab. That branched out to a personal friendship that lasted a long while. Jack was a brilliant student and engineer. Anyone who had contact with him will say the exact same thing. He always had something going on technically and he was fun to learn from. After our BSEE days, Jack worked for the FCC (Detroit office) for a bit, then got his MSEE and eventually his LLD. We lost touch with eachother during most of his lawyer years but reacquainted when he retired and began Clifton Laboratories. I am happy that DX Engineering will continue to offer his fine products We even collaborated on a final project, about three years ago, when he asked me to help him gather old photos from our classmates, depicting the days at WSU, and put an album together. Fun stuff. RIP Jack! 73, Bob K8IA --------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:54:55 -0700 From: "Ed Muns" To: "'Elecraft Reflector'" Subject: [Elecraft] K8ZOA SK and Clifton Laboratories >From today's Daily DX: On Wednesday K8ZOA, Jack R. Smith, passed away from liver, kidney and respiratory complications. He was both a lawyer and engineer working for both the FCC and private practice law firms. Jack was an inventor and created Clifton Laboratories. Earlier this month DX Engineering purchased Clifton Laboratories and plans to continue manufacturing those "products in the exact same fashion and service Jack did", says K3LR, Tim Duffy, Chief Operating Officer of DX Engineering. Ed W0YK From kevin at k4vd.net Mon Jun 27 19:09:36 2016 From: kevin at k4vd.net (Kevin - K4VD) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 19:09:36 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Key Recommendation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Those that use QLF or worse, LID are rude. If it isn't a friend poking fun then I ain't got time for that. Throw me your worse CW using a clothespin and some thumb tacks. I'll copy what I can and hopefully encourage you to improve. No paddles or keyer required. That said, there's nothing sweeter than the classic rock sound of well sent straight key or bug CW. Electronic keyers are top 40 bubble gum. :) Kev / K4VD On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Barry LaZar wrote: > I spent a lot of time this weekend copying CW operators who were superb > and a lot who barely know how to send. I was in the latter category and > quite oftenand I would receive a QLF??. I built an accukeyer featured in > QST a lot of years ago and in a number of the ARRL Handbooks. > > I bought a FYO paddle set which is what the Bencher looks like. I never > did use iambic sending, nor do I today. However, the result was no more > QLF?, and my fatigue level is much lower after a long weekend. > > My point is you need to really practice to get good with a key so you can > be read. An electronic keyer, like in the Elecraft radios or a Winkeyer > used with a dual or single paddle set will really clean up your sending and > lessen your fatigue, even if you never use the iambic features available. > > 73, > Barry > K3NDM > > From w2blc at nycap.rr.com Mon Jun 27 19:25:29 2016 From: w2blc at nycap.rr.com (Bill) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 19:25:29 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] THE EFFORT OF FIELD DAY In-Reply-To: <621193fa-4b8a-5f9a-c7a5-6ad6edab463b@mebtel.net> References: <621193fa-4b8a-5f9a-c7a5-6ad6edab463b@mebtel.net> Message-ID: <63914705-2ad2-f7a0-d432-ebdb12b726dc@nycap.rr.com> "Bring on the youngsters?????????" Sure - If you can tear them away from their smart phones and XBoxes! Bill W2BLC K-Line From sasimpson at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 19:36:27 2016 From: sasimpson at gmail.com (Scott Simpson) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 23:36:27 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] THE EFFORT OF FIELD DAY In-Reply-To: <63914705-2ad2-f7a0-d432-ebdb12b726dc@nycap.rr.com> References: <621193fa-4b8a-5f9a-c7a5-6ad6edab463b@mebtel.net> <63914705-2ad2-f7a0-d432-ebdb12b726dc@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: as the young guy in my club (37) i feel like i put up more antennas and carried more stuff than i should have in the south texas heat and humidity! On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 6:26 PM Bill wrote: > "Bring on the youngsters?????????" Sure - If you can tear them away > from their smart phones and XBoxes! > > Bill W2BLC K-Line > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to sasimpson at gmail.com > From anthony.scandurra at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 19:37:55 2016 From: anthony.scandurra at gmail.com (Anthony Scandurra) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 19:37:55 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] THE EFFORT OF FIELD DAY In-Reply-To: <63914705-2ad2-f7a0-d432-ebdb12b726dc@nycap.rr.com> References: <621193fa-4b8a-5f9a-c7a5-6ad6edab463b@mebtel.net> <63914705-2ad2-f7a0-d432-ebdb12b726dc@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: I am happy to report that my 11 year old son, who plays on a PS4, a Xbox, and his own computer, participated in FD at my local club's operation for his first time. He made 63 Qs with help from Dear Old Dad on the GOTA station. He is also studying for his Technician class license. He said over and over again, "Best weekend ever!" to both his mother and me. He's already planning for next year. BTW, we had two other youths at the site who have been hams for years now. They both have very active lives outside of ham radio, but they still love the hobby. Don't give up on our youth! Ham radio still holds appeal! 73, Tony K4QE (licensed at age 14 over 37 years ago) On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Bill wrote: > "Bring on the youngsters?????????" Sure - If you can tear them away from > their smart phones and XBoxes! > > Bill W2BLC K-Line > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to anthony.scandurra at gmail.com > From wb9cac at yahoo.com Mon Jun 27 19:57:53 2016 From: wb9cac at yahoo.com (Bill Ellis) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 23:57:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] CW Setup In-Reply-To: <1907475127.1891473.1466989248888.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1907475127.1891473.1466989248888.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1907475127.1891473.1466989248888.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <437297009.2537395.1467071873315.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks to all that assisted. I did get the paddle to operate correctly. Sometimes the answer is staring one in the face and you just don't see the solution. Thanks/73's Bill, WB9CACTempe, AZ From: Bill Ellis To: Elecraft Reflector ; Elecraft Support Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 6:00 PM Subject: CW Setup Hi ll, Trying to set up a single lever paddle for my K3. The more I read the more confused, for some reason, it gets. Can someone assist with this hook up, do ?I use a stereo plug, and how do I set up the menu ? Thanks/73's, Bill, WB9CAC From joberreu-elecraft at moselle.com Mon Jun 27 20:01:35 2016 From: joberreu-elecraft at moselle.com (Jessie Oberreuter) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 17:01:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Elecraft] QLF (was Re: CW Key Recommendation) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've been sending right handed for decades, but the older I get, the more left-handed I seem to become, and I carry a lot less tension when I'm being a lefty, so a few weeks ago, I gave left handed paddle keying a try. At first, it was very strange. The keying was fine, but I could practically feel my brain moving the internal furniture about as it worked out the routing. At field day this year, I ended up with the KX3 on the left, and the laptop on the right. I'd hoped to be computer keying this year, but I wasn't that organized, so I used the KX3 Palm micro-paddles left handed :). It was all working great! I'd drop a dit now and again, but all was well until, at some point Saturday evening, I started getting fuzzy, and right in the middle of a QSO, wait, uh, what? I can't seem to send anymore! Yikes! Fortunately, the op on the other end waited until I'd cranked the keyer speed down a bit and finally sent our club call and exchange correctly. Thank you, who every you were! I got up, took a walk, had a cuppa, and went back to work without a glitch. On Mon, 27 Jun 2016, Barry LaZar wrote: > I spent a lot of time this weekend copying CW operators who were superb and a > lot who barely know how to send. I was in the latter category and quite > oftenand I would receive a QLF??. I built an accukeyer featured in QST a lot > of years ago and in a number of the ARRL Handbooks. > > I bought a FYO paddle set which is what the Bencher looks like. I never did > use iambic sending, nor do I today. However, the result was no more QLF?, and > my fatigue level is much lower after a long weekend. > > My point is you need to really practice to get good with a key so you can be > read. An electronic keyer, like in the Elecraft radios or a Winkeyer used > with a dual or single paddle set will really clean up your sending and lessen > your fatigue, even if you never use the iambic features available. > > 73, > Barry > K3NDM > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Dave Fugleberg" > To: "Dale Putnam" ; "Bill" ; > "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" > Sent: 6/27/2016 2:00:53 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Key Recommendation > >> One other thing to add for the original poster... >> Something that's really helped me is to use a program called Iambic Master >> to help me learn how to send well with paddles. It requires you to have a >> winkey-compatible keyer connected to a PC (I use a Microham unit). >> You plug your paddles into the keyer, and the program shows you an >> exchange, which you must 'send' properly before moving on. This showed me >> how truly awful my timing between words and letters was. >> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:36 PM Dale Putnam wrote: >> >>> I have a J-38 from WWII.. original base, and very nice, with the fabric >>> covered cable, FS. >>> >>> photos available too. >>> >>> And I recommend it... SKCC #87 loves it. >>> >>> >>> Have a great day, >>> --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Elecraft on behalf of Bill < >>> w2blc at nycap.rr.com> >>> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 12:34 PM >>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Key Recommendation >>> >>> Long arm keys, typically those found in maritime service, are the most >>> pleasant of the straight keys to use. They are expensive. >>> >>> An inexpensive alternative is the Czech key seen at: >>> http://www.uv3r.com/CzechMorseKeys/ has a nice feel also. They can be >>> [http://www.uv3r.com/CzechMorseKeys/images/P1000781b_opt.jpg]< >>> http://www.uv3r.com/CzechMorseKeys/> >>> >>> Czech Morse Keys - UV-3R >>> www.uv3r.com >>> Czech army, military morse code key importers and Baofeng UV-3R suppliers >>> >>> >>> >>> found from $25 to $60 on the Internet. Their good action is due to their >>> folded long-arm design. I have one and it is my straight key of >>> preference. >>> >>> If you go for a bug, nothing beats the VizBug at: >>> http://vizkey.com/order.html#90degreevizbug It is a small and very >>> quiet bug (no thrashing machine noises). >>> >>> I have a Vibroplex single lever paddle that I have been using since the >>> early 60s. Perfect for a normal keyer (don't care much for the one in >>> the K3). >>> >>> I have never used a two paddle anything - so no comments about them. >>> >>> Want to learn more about keys and CW operation in general? Take a look >>> at: http://radiotelegraphy.net/ >>> >>> I have no business interests in any of the above and really don't care >>> if you choose an Amplidan or just tap two bare wires together - both of >>> which will get the same job done. >>> >>> Bill W2BLC K-Line >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to daleputnam at hotmail.com >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to dave.w0zf at gmail.com >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k3ndm at comcast.net > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to joberreu-elecraft at moselle.com > From wunder at wunderwood.org Mon Jun 27 20:03:47 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 17:03:47 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] THE EFFORT OF FIELD DAY In-Reply-To: <63914705-2ad2-f7a0-d432-ebdb12b726dc@nycap.rr.com> References: <621193fa-4b8a-5f9a-c7a5-6ad6edab463b@mebtel.net> <63914705-2ad2-f7a0-d432-ebdb12b726dc@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: Yeah? Check out this coverage on WGNO with a twelve year old General at Field Day (KG5HVO). The Jefferson Amateur Radio Club should get a thousand extra points for this coverage. http://wgno.com/2016/06/26/arrl-field-day-2016/ And the club: http://w5gad.org/2016/05/30/arrl-field-day-2016/ wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jun 27, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Bill wrote: > > "Bring on the youngsters?????????" Sure - If you can tear them away from their smart phones and XBoxes! > > Bill W2BLC K-Line > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From edauer at law.du.edu Mon Jun 27 20:05:25 2016 From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 00:05:25 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] FD Propagation Message-ID: <04B78E12-6847-4A8E-A0DF-B7E59848A7D6@law.du.edu> At about 1930 Z last Sunday, during the final hours of FD, it seemed that HF propagation completely collapsed where I was. Ten went away, not ever having been open much, then 15 went completely dead, 40 at about the same time except for some locals, 80 had been useless all afternoon, and finally by about 2000Z there were only eight or ten signals left on 20. Finis, all done, as quickly as I?ve ever seen it. I went CL with over an hour of contest left. Was I alone in seeing that at my Colorado mountain QTH? Maybe I was just too tired to listen any more? (Not entirely OT ? I was using a K3 at the time.) Ted, KN1CBR From daleputnam at hotmail.com Mon Jun 27 20:07:34 2016 From: daleputnam at hotmail.com (Dale Putnam) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 00:07:34 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Key Recommendation In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: OR.. you could check into the cw practice net on 14.0625 at 2200z on Tues and Thurs followed immediately on 7.0625 about 2215 or so... IF that is a bad time.. I'll meet you about any time.. to practice.... I can set up text tx.. or we can simply chat.. at a speed just a tiny bit faster than you send.. so.. don't fudge. See you then! Have a great day, --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy ________________________________ From: Barry LaZar Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 3:02 PM To: Dave Fugleberg; Dale Putnam; Bill; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re[2]: [Elecraft] CW Key Recommendation I spent a lot of time this weekend copying CW operators who were superb and a lot who barely know how to send. I was in the latter category and quite oftenand I would receive a QLF??. I built an accukeyer featured in QST a lot of years ago and in a number of the ARRL Handbooks. I bought a FYO paddle set which is what the Bencher looks like. I never did use iambic sending, nor do I today. However, the result was no more QLF?, and my fatigue level is much lower after a long weekend. My point is you need to really practice to get good with a key so you can be read. An electronic keyer, like in the Elecraft radios or a Winkeyer used with a dual or single paddle set will really clean up your sending and lessen your fatigue, even if you never use the iambic features available. 73, Barry K3NDM ------ Original Message ------ From: "Dave Fugleberg" To: "Dale Putnam" ; "Bill" ; "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" Sent: 6/27/2016 2:00:53 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Key Recommendation >One other thing to add for the original poster... >Something that's really helped me is to use a program called Iambic >Master >to help me learn how to send well with paddles. It requires you to have >a >winkey-compatible keyer connected to a PC (I use a Microham unit). >You plug your paddles into the keyer, and the program shows you an >exchange, which you must 'send' properly before moving on. This showed >me >how truly awful my timing between words and letters was. >On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:36 PM Dale Putnam >wrote: > >> I have a J-38 from WWII.. original base, and very nice, with the >>fabric >> covered cable, FS. >> >> photos available too. >> >> And I recommend it... SKCC #87 loves it. >> >> >> Have a great day, >> --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Elecraft on behalf of Bill < >> w2blc at nycap.rr.com> >> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 12:34 PM >> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Key Recommendation >> >> Long arm keys, typically those found in maritime service, are the >>most >> pleasant of the straight keys to use. They are expensive. >> >> An inexpensive alternative is the Czech key seen at: >> http://www.uv3r.com/CzechMorseKeys/ has a nice feel also. They can be [http://www.uv3r.com/CzechMorseKeys/images/P1000781b_opt.jpg] Czech Morse Keys - UV-3R www.uv3r.com Czech army, military morse code key importers and Baofeng UV-3R suppliers >> [http://www.uv3r.com/CzechMorseKeys/images/P1000781b_opt.jpg]< >> http://www.uv3r.com/CzechMorseKeys/> >> >> Czech Morse Keys - UV-3R >> www.uv3r.com >> Czech army, military morse code key importers and Baofeng UV-3R >>suppliers >> >> >> >> found from $25 to $60 on the Internet. Their good action is due to >>their >> folded long-arm design. I have one and it is my straight key of >>preference. >> >> If you go for a bug, nothing beats the VizBug at: >> http://vizkey.com/order.html#90degreevizbug It is a small and very >> quiet bug (no thrashing machine noises). >> >> I have a Vibroplex single lever paddle that I have been using since >>the >> early 60s. Perfect for a normal keyer (don't care much for the one in >> the K3). >> >> I have never used a two paddle anything - so no comments about them. >> >> Want to learn more about keys and CW operation in general? Take a >>look >> at: http://radiotelegraphy.net/ >> >> I have no business interests in any of the above and really don't >>care >> if you choose an Amplidan or just tap two bare wires together - both >>of >> which will get the same job done. >> >> Bill W2BLC K-Line >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to daleputnam at hotmail.com >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to dave.w0zf at gmail.com >> >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to k3ndm at comcast.net From mbabineau at magma.ca Mon Jun 27 20:20:47 2016 From: mbabineau at magma.ca (Michael Babineau) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 20:20:47 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day report Message-ID: <0FB5BA43-66A2-4F67-8493-098CD925AA30@magma.ca> VA3OVQ had an all-Elecraft 2A-Battery operation with a K2/10 and a couple of KX3s (on 20m and the free-be VHF station on 6m). We also had one of our members bring along his Winlink/Winmor Setup to send some emails (bonus points), which also used a KX3. What impressed me was how well the Elecraft Rigs handled the heat without any issues. On Saturday it was in the high 90s F and on Sunday well over 100 degrees F. The K2 was literally hot to the touch in spite of being in the shade, but we had no problems. Collectively we drank 24 litres (a bit over 6 US gallons) of water and made something in the order of 200 QSOs, so I figure that works out to about 8 QSOs / litre ;-) Michael VE3WMB From thelastdb at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 20:34:06 2016 From: thelastdb at gmail.com (thelastdb) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 18:34:06 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] FD Propagation Message-ID: Hi Ed? I was up at a Red Feather Lakes, CO for FD and had strange propagation as well. Since I was the only op and there was a hot tub, I missed some prime operating hours... Sunday morning produced an opening on 15 with skip so short I worked WY and SD. On 15m! Had to have been something other than f2. 88ft doublet up 40 feet/ends at 33-ish feet. KX3 at 15W with an AnyVolt3 set to 14.4V. No noise from this little wonder. Not a serious effort but had tons of fun. Myron WV?HPrinted on Recycled Data?-------- Original message --------From: "Dauer, Edward" Date: 6/27/2016 6:05 PM (GMT-07:00) To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] FD Propagation At about 1930 Z last Sunday, during the final hours of FD, it seemed that HF propagation completely collapsed where I was. Ten went away, not ever having been open much, then 15 went completely dead, 40 at about the same time except for some locals, 80 had been useless all afternoon, and finally by about 2000Z there were only eight or ten signals left on 20.? Finis, all done, as quickly as I?ve ever seen it.? I went CL with over an hour of contest left. Was I alone in seeing that at my Colorado mountain QTH??? Maybe I was just too tired to listen any more? (Not entirely OT ? I was using a K3 at the time.) Ted, KN1CBR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to thelastdb at gmail.com From jim at jtmiller.com Mon Jun 27 20:57:18 2016 From: jim at jtmiller.com (Jim Miller) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 20:57:18 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod Aux out? Message-ID: Since there are three outputs available I'm assuming the Aux out jack is a TRRS? Looks like there will be one of these in my future as I'm tired of cluttering my desk with switch boxes. This would collect them in a nice single box. jim From joe at selectconnect.net Mon Jun 27 20:58:29 2016 From: joe at selectconnect.net (Joe Moffatt) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 00:58:29 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] THE EFFORT OF FIELD DAY In-Reply-To: References: <621193fa-4b8a-5f9a-c7a5-6ad6edab463b@mebtel.net> <63914705-2ad2-f7a0-d432-ebdb12b726dc@nycap.rr.com>, Message-ID: For everyone that complains about kids and their X Boxes, etc, I have a simple question for you. Have you ever asked them to participate with you in an event like FD? Guess what, some of the kids LOVE it. They like to be included and wanted. Not all kids are that way, but there are more than you think. In fact, I have found some of the more gadgety kids take a real interest in CW. They find using a key to spell their name very intriguing. Next time you have an event, ask them to come eat some free food and tinker around with you. joe ________________________________ From: Elecraft [elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] on behalf of Anthony Scandurra [anthony.scandurra at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 6:37 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] THE EFFORT OF FIELD DAY I am happy to report that my 11 year old son, who plays on a PS4, a Xbox, and his own computer, participated in FD at my local club's operation for his first time. He made 63 Qs with help from Dear Old Dad on the GOTA station. He is also studying for his Technician class license. He said over and over again, "Best weekend ever!" to both his mother and me. He's already planning for next year. BTW, we had two other youths at the site who have been hams for years now. They both have very active lives outside of ham radio, but they still love the hobby. Don't give up on our youth! Ham radio still holds appeal! 73, Tony K4QE (licensed at age 14 over 37 years ago) On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Bill wrote: > "Bring on the youngsters?????????" Sure - If you can tear them away from > their smart phones and XBoxes! > > Bill W2BLC K-Line > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to anthony.scandurra at gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to joe at selectconnect.net ________________________________ Total Control Panel Login To: joe at selectconnect.net From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net Message Score: 2 High (60): Pass My Spam Blocking Level: Medium Medium (75): Pass Low (90): Pass Block this sender / Block this sender enterprise-wide Block mailman.qth.net / Block mailman.qth.net enterprise-wide This message was delivered because the content filter score did not exceed your filter level. From ron at cobi.biz Mon Jun 27 21:08:54 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 18:08:54 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod Aux out? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <009701d1d0d9$a449b6b0$ecdd2410$@biz> Yes. Each output is a programmable open drain connection a ring contact that can handle up to 50 Vdc at 100 mA. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Miller Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 5:57 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod Aux out? Since there are three outputs available I'm assuming the Aux out jack is a TRRS? Looks like there will be one of these in my future as I'm tired of cluttering my desk with switch boxes. This would collect them in a nice single box. jim ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at cobi.biz From iann8ik at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 21:33:31 2016 From: iann8ik at gmail.com (Ian) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 21:33:31 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod owner's manual? Message-ID: Anyone seen an owner's manual for the K-Pod? 73, Ian N8IK From btippett at alum.mit.edu Mon Jun 27 22:00:26 2016 From: btippett at alum.mit.edu (Bill W4ZV) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 19:00:26 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] FD Propagation In-Reply-To: <04B78E12-6847-4A8E-A0DF-B7E59848A7D6@law.du.edu> References: <04B78E12-6847-4A8E-A0DF-B7E59848A7D6@law.du.edu> Message-ID: <1467079226039-7619353.post@n2.nabble.com> Edward A. Dauer wrote > At about 1930 Z last Sunday, during the final hours of FD, it seemed that > HF propagation completely collapsed where I was. Ten went away, not ever > having been open much, then 15 went completely dead, 40 at about the same > time except for some locals, 80 had been useless all afternoon, and > finally by about 2000Z there were only eight or ten signals left on 20. > Finis, all done, as quickly as I?ve ever seen it. I went CL with over an > hour of contest left. The majority of clubs set up before FD begins at 1800 UTC Saturday so activity falls off a cliff 24 hours later. "3.2. Stations who begin setting up before 1800 UTC Saturday may work only 24 consecutive hours, commencing when on-the-air operations begin." 73, Bill W4ZV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/FD-Propagation-tp7619346p7619353.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ed at w0yk.com Mon Jun 27 22:03:43 2016 From: ed at w0yk.com (Ed Muns) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 19:03:43 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod owner's manual? Message-ID: Yes. 73, Ed W0YK On Jun 27, 2016 6:33 PM, Ian wrote: > > Anyone seen an owner's manual for the K-Pod? > 73, Ian N8IK > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ed at w0yk.com From pincon at erols.com Mon Jun 27 22:34:34 2016 From: pincon at erols.com (Charlie T, K3ICH) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 22:34:34 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FW: FD Propagation References: <04B78E12-6847-4A8E-A0DF-B7E59848A7D6@law.du.edu> Message-ID: <00d101d1d0e5$9f0f8e20$dd2eaa60$@erols.com> I may be interpreting the rules incorrectly, but I think unless you started your total set-up at 1800, you could only operate 24 consecutive hours, so most everyone called it quits at 1800 on Sunday. Propagation was still there but 95% of the stations timed out. Only those stations that started their complete set-up, including stringing antennas etc. after 1800 could operate until 2100. If you set-up Friday for example, then Field day was a 24 hour affair. Of course, you COULD have started later for example, at 2100 on Saturday and quit 24 hours later, but I don't think anyone did that. 73, Charlie k3ICH -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dauer, Edward Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 8:05 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] FD Propagation At about 1930 Z last Sunday, during the final hours of FD, it seemed that HF propagation completely collapsed where I was. Ten went away, not ever having been open much, then 15 went completely dead, 40 at about the same time except for some locals, 80 had been useless all afternoon, and finally by about 2000Z there were only eight or ten signals left on 20. Finis, all done, as quickly as I?ve ever seen it. I went CL with over an hour of contest left. Was I alone in seeing that at my Colorado mountain QTH? Maybe I was just too tired to listen any more? (Not entirely OT ? I was using a K3 at the time.) Ted, KN1CBR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pincon at erols.com From K2TK at ptd.net Mon Jun 27 23:00:15 2016 From: K2TK at ptd.net (Bob) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 23:00:15 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod owner's manual? In-Reply-To: <20160628020556.948BE149B464@mailman.qth.net> References: <20160628020556.948BE149B464@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: <48f1b85a-052b-8dc9-73c7-3e1385a74672@ptd.net> How? Are you a beta tester? Sure wish it was available so the mod could be done for power via the interconnect cable. Be plug and play ready then. After all shipping starts tomorrow per Web shipping status. Anybody taking bets? Bob K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) and K2TKR On 6/27/2016 10:03 PM, Ed Muns wrote: > Yes. > > 73, > Ed W0YK > On Jun 27, 2016 6:33 PM, Ian wrote: >> Anyone seen an owner's manual for the K-Pod? >> 73, Ian N8IK >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> From ai6ii at comcast.net Mon Jun 27 23:11:40 2016 From: ai6ii at comcast.net (mike) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 20:11:40 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K3s/mini Lower AF volume than K3? Message-ID: <1467083500896-7619357.post@n2.nabble.com> I just acquired a K3s /mini to use with RHR. It works perfectly except I believe the AF output is noticeably lower than that of my K3. Is this an issue with the mini or am I missing something? 73 ..mike AI6II -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3s-mini-Lower-AF-volume-than-K3-tp7619357.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ron at cobi.biz Mon Jun 27 23:15:55 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 20:15:55 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod owner's manual? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <009d01d1d0eb$62f6d2d0$28e47870$@biz> Answering the recent question, my first move was to refer to the Owner's manual and I noticed it was not on the Web site. I brought it to the attention of the P.M. I suspect it'll appear very shortly. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ian Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 6:34 PM To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod owner's manual? Anyone seen an owner's manual for the K-Pod? 73, Ian N8IK ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From woodr90 at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 00:02:58 2016 From: woodr90 at gmail.com (Robert Wood) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 23:02:58 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] FW: FD Propagation In-Reply-To: <00d101d1d0e5$9f0f8e20$dd2eaa60$@erols.com> References: <04B78E12-6847-4A8E-A0DF-B7E59848A7D6@law.du.edu> <00d101d1d0e5$9f0f8e20$dd2eaa60$@erols.com> Message-ID: <000001d1d0f1$f554dbd0$dffe9370$@gmail.com> Operated at a site that used 100% K3 HF rigs (K5FD) FD Rules allow you to setup both Thursday and Friday night!!! No class A or B station may begin its set-up earlier than 0000 UTC on the Friday (Thursday afternoon or evening local time) preceding the Field Day period. Cumulative set-up time shall not exceed a total of 24 hours. A good thing for OLD timers!! 73 Robert W5AJ -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Charlie T, K3ICH Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 9:35 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] FW: FD Propagation I may be interpreting the rules incorrectly, but I think unless you started your total set-up at 1800, you could only operate 24 consecutive hours, so most everyone called it quits at 1800 on Sunday. Propagation was still there but 95% of the stations timed out. Only those stations that started their complete set-up, including stringing antennas etc. after 1800 could operate until 2100. If you set-up Friday for example, then Field day was a 24 hour affair. Of course, you COULD have started later for example, at 2100 on Saturday and quit 24 hours later, but I don't think anyone did that. 73, Charlie k3ICH -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dauer, Edward Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 8:05 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] FD Propagation At about 1930 Z last Sunday, during the final hours of FD, it seemed that HF propagation completely collapsed where I was. Ten went away, not ever having been open much, then 15 went completely dead, 40 at about the same time except for some locals, 80 had been useless all afternoon, and finally by about 2000Z there were only eight or ten signals left on 20. Finis, all done, as quickly as I?ve ever seen it. I went CL with over an hour of contest left. Was I alone in seeing that at my Colorado mountain QTH? Maybe I was just too tired to listen any more? (Not entirely OT ? I was using a K3 at the time.) Ted, KN1CBR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pincon at erols.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to woodr90 at gmail.com From Gary at ka1j.com Tue Jun 28 00:56:16 2016 From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 00:56:16 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FD & 6 meters Message-ID: <57720370.25109.21C12AA@Gary.ka1j.com> I've never worked any 6M contacts until Field Day. Never had a 6M radio till my old K3 but with my 360' of RG-8 and no 6M antenna, it never happened. A friend recently gave me 360' of 7/8 50 ohm hardline and I found my 160 sloper with my K3s could hear 6M signals and had a reasonably decent SWR. None of my other wire antennas could do either well at all. I noticed a few things in this little foray, 6M from SE Connecticut was only open to the 4th call area. I did make one contact to Rhode Island, not far away. What I found difficult was the intelligibility of many of the 6M stations; many sounded almost like they were on LSB but they were on USB. There was little to understand and it seemed like their signal was maybe compressed. Others were clear as a bell but I only worked a few as my amp is 160-10. I'm guessing some of the radios must have had a problem, I thought it might be indicative of 6M contacts till I heard the clear stations. But well more than half were impossible to tune in easily. Another thing I noticed was when I was using the second preamp in the K3s, I would hear a clicking in the audio as I tuned. It was like every increment from the VFO equalled one low volume click. When I stopped turning the VFO, the clicks stopped. Is this normal? Now I have RI, FL, GA and SC on 6M! Nice to have some new challenges, seeing as ATNO in DXCC have become more rare. 73, Gary KA1J From wes_n7ws at triconet.org Tue Jun 28 01:59:55 2016 From: wes_n7ws at triconet.org (Wes Stewart) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 22:59:55 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] FD & 6 meters In-Reply-To: <57720370.25109.21C12AA@Gary.ka1j.com> References: <57720370.25109.21C12AA@Gary.ka1j.com> Message-ID: Although licensed since 1958 I had never worked six meters either until the 2009 FD. (I skipped 6, went to 2M where I pioneered SSB on the band and worked Tropo, MS and EME) On that FD, I was casually doing some tune and pounce from home when I decided to listen to 6 with my fairly new K3 and my 80M inverted-vee fed with 200' of RG8. One of the local clubs was cluttering up 50.125 from 9000' up a nearby mountain. Es was going wild so I joined in with the barefoot K3100 (no tuner and a HB preamp) that maybe put out 10W. I worked a few stations on SSB but the locals were making it difficult so I switched to CW and started tuning down from .125. At 50.123 I heard a CQ. It was weak and took some serious listening to pull out the call. I answered him and he came right back with a report. It was JL8GFB! One hour and eight minutes later I worked JA7WSZ on 50.096. So the band was open for over and hour between AZ and JA and apparently no one knew it but me. (I seldom use spots today and didn't use them at all back then) Wes N7WS On 6/27/2016 9:56 PM, Gary Smith wrote: > I've never worked any 6M contacts until Field Day. Never had a 6M > radio till my old K3 but with my 360' of RG-8 and no 6M antenna, it > never happened. > > A friend recently gave me 360' of 7/8 50 ohm hardline and I found my > 160 sloper with my K3s could hear 6M signals and had a reasonably > decent SWR. None of my other wire antennas could do either well at > all. > From ktalbott at gamewood.net Tue Jun 28 03:50:52 2016 From: ktalbott at gamewood.net (Ken Talbott) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 03:50:52 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day report Message-ID: <008001d1d111$cc7edb50$657c91f0$@gamewood.net> Field Day was the perfect opportunity to really exercise my KX2. Saturday I set up several hundred yards from the house with the KX2, KXUSB interface cable, LNR MTR antenna (shorting plug for 40m, 20m installed and 25ft of RG-58 BNC terminated coax), internal 2200 mAh Li-ion battery (3S 11.1V nominal, 12.6V full charge) from Elecraft, matching 2200 mAh Li-ion purchased directly from Tenergy, Bioenno BLF-1206T 12V 6Ah LiFePO4 battery, SkyRC B6 iMax LiPro Charger, Noco-X-Grid XGS9 solar panels, KXPD3 paddle (with shortened screw), MH3 microphone, QRPworks Ham Central Terminal (early version upgraded to v2.3 firmware and PS2 keyboard), MFJ-822 watt meter, appropriate DC cables (APP and/or 5.5 X 2.1 coax terminations), RG-174 BNC terminated jumper cables, and Lenovo Win10 laptop (with Targus PA350 DC-to-DC PSU) running N1MM+ logger. Fortunately I also carried a Bencher paddle. This list is what I actually USED and does not include all the excess material that I dragged to the forest. Family obligations prevented me from operating until 2100 UTC Saturday. I secured operation at 1600 UTC Sunday, sleeping for approximately 4 hours. I started with all three batteries fully charged and the KXPD3 attached to the KX2. I connected the MH3 (for the first time!) and attempted to keep a schedule for a 20m SSB Field Day exchange with a friend in Colorado. My 5-watt signal wasn't able to punch through the wall of noise! My cockpit time with the MH3 is now 20 minutes. I am certain there is much about SSB operation with the KX2 that I do not know. The MH3 went back into the bag until Field Day 2017 and I switched to CW. The first failure was the KXPD3. I had experienced problems with it in the past on the KX3, but on Saturday it refused to operate reliably. Visual inspection suggests that the paddle has the Elecraft updates. The first day of Field Day is not the time to troubleshoot, so I switched to the Bencher. Thank you Elecraft for the second paddle port! Problem solved. The performance of the batteries, the DC-to-DC charger, and the photovoltaics exceeded all expectations. According to the KX2's AMP HRS display, each of the 2200 mAh batteries provided just over 2.1Ah of service with the low battery warning set at 9.7 VDC (approximately 7 hours of operation with preamp and backlight both ON). There was an anomaly when the alert was triggered. I immediately changed batteries. The hour was after midnight so I wasn't as attentive as I probably should have been. I don't know how many contacts I failed to make before I noticed that the KX2 wasn't producing any output! Somehow during the low battery alert and changing the battery the output power had been reduced to zero! BTW, I used the programmable function key (PFn) to toggle VOX MD (QSK) on and off. I probably should have used a stereo headset in which case PFn might be of more use toggling Dual Watch during the contest. My only interface to N1MM+ was via the USB serial connection. I did not have the function keys/macros programmed so I was forced to use the two-button-depression of KX2 to send recorded text, a real PITA. N1MM+ performed flawlessly. After midnight I switched to the Ham Central Terminal (HCT) simply to evaluate the usage mode. This produced a second log file, but with ADI export for LOTW this was not inconvenient. The HCT was easier to use since it allowed single-key-depression transmission of recorded messages. This will probably NOT be the case with a proper interface between the KX2 and N1MM+. It took a few minutes to familiarize myself with the PS2 keyboard/HCT user interface, then all went very well. I understand that the current HCT model supports a USB keyboard. Although the HCT worked well with the KX2, some of the commands provided unexpected results. For example, depressing ALT-S for Rig Status caused the KX2 to change mode and did NOT display accurate status information. Perhaps we will get an update? Lessons learned: - Perform a shakedown setup AND operate BEFORE leaving for the field. I took twice as much gear as necessary! - Use a DC-to-DC power supply for your logging device to avoid any dependence on mains power. - Solar panels are great, but make sure you have enough ampacity to last till sunrise. - For FD or any time you know that a battery swap will be necessary, just use the external connector (thanks Elecraft for using the same connector!) - Be wary of the KXPD3. I anxiously await the KXPD2 and expect it to perform better. - Use logging software or HCT that supports duplication checking and single-key saved message transmission. Fatigue is reduced and logging more accurate. - If operating alone, don't plan on cooking. I ate raw vegetables and cold cuts to avoid taking time off for food preparation. - For FD a simple wire antenna was more than adequate. Don't expect any rare Dx but there were plenty of stations to work. Finally, if CW QRP is your mode of choice by all means use an Elecraft KX2. It excelled in size, portability, ease of use, power consumption, and reliability! The entire photovoltaic panel, charger, and associated cables were not necessary for a 24 hour event. Ken - ke4rg From btippett at alum.mit.edu Tue Jun 28 06:17:08 2016 From: btippett at alum.mit.edu (Bill W4ZV) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 03:17:08 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod owner's manual? In-Reply-To: <48f1b85a-052b-8dc9-73c7-3e1385a74672@ptd.net> References: <48f1b85a-052b-8dc9-73c7-3e1385a74672@ptd.net> Message-ID: <1467109028483-7619362.post@n2.nabble.com> Bob-2 wrote > How? > > Are you a beta tester? Yes. Short summary - the mod is simple IF you have the right parts. Solder a 6.8 ohm resistor across R82 (i.e. in parallel) on the Front Panel Board. No need to remove any panels but unscrew the 3 top and 2 bottom screws holding the FPB to the chassis and then use a flat head screw driver in the 2 bottom slots to pry FPB apart from chassis. Elecraft provides both 1/10 W SMD (0603 size) and leaded 1/8 W resistors in the kit. 0603 SMD is a bit of a challenge but makes a very neat installation if you're experienced with soldering SMD, or Elecraft will install the mod for you if you email k3support at elecraft.com or call 831-763-4211. 73, Bill W4ZV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K-Pod-owner-s-manual-tp7619352p7619362.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From aj4tf at arrl.net Tue Jun 28 06:48:54 2016 From: aj4tf at arrl.net (aj4tf) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 03:48:54 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] W4UA Field Day - Mostly Elecraft Message-ID: <1467110934756-7619363.post@n2.nabble.com> All, Field Day for W4UA was a success. We were 3A (three transmitters).. K2 #7006 (veteran of at least 4 other Field Days) stayed on 40m the whole time. The latest addition, K3S #10669, was on 15m, 20m, and 80m at various times of the day. Both got good audio reports. I am still learning all the features of the K3S but it was an awesome Field Day rig. The third station (on 10m, 15m, and 20m at various times) was some other brand name starting with a K. :-) we also had a GOTA station that didn't get used a lot, using some other radio starting with a Y. I hope everyone had a great and safe Field Day 73, de AJ4TF -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/W4UA-Field-Day-Mostly-Elecraft-tp7619363.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From gio.flynn at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 08:35:57 2016 From: gio.flynn at gmail.com (John Flynn) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 08:35:57 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Wall Wart for KX3 In-Reply-To: References: <00b601d1cf4e$63c293f0$2b47bbd0$@verizon.net> <1a512245-3d94-bb1d-ca5a-a814dbe8b2f1@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Maybe this one? http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?keywords=237-1445-nd 73, John K4ARQ On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT < KX3 at coldrockshotbrooms.com> wrote: > I've got one. Works well. > > > On 6/25/2016 7:57 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > >> This one >> https://proaudioeng.com/products/pae-kx33-low-rfi-ac-power-supply/ >> >> 73, Phil W7OX >> >> On 6/25/16 6:59 PM, johnpierce wrote: >> >>> A person recently provided a link to a clean Wall Wart power supply he >>> bought for his KX3. I have searched for it and cannot find it. Could >>> someone please repost the link? >>> >>> >>> John Pierce >>> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gio.flynn at gmail.com > -- John Flynn Tallahassee, Florida USA From K1WHS at metrocast.net Tue Jun 28 09:10:42 2016 From: K1WHS at metrocast.net (David Olean) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 13:10:42 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] FD & 6 meters In-Reply-To: <57720370.25109.21C12AA@Gary.ka1j.com> References: <57720370.25109.21C12AA@Gary.ka1j.com> Message-ID: <5dd0afcd-0318-6b99-909d-b96d989b4e56@metrocast.net> Hi Gary FB on the six meter QSOs. You really need a dedicated antenna for six to really enjoy the band. long wires work, but you need something better if you start to get serious. I was operating with a loosely knit group in Kennebunk, Maine, using the call K1N. We set up at a school and had my K3 on 80 thru 15 meters with two wire antennas strung from trees. One was a 3 element 20 meter array with a set of reflectors. The reflector was not set correctly due to a lack of suitable trees. It still seemed to work OK. The second wire antenna was a simple doublet. Both were fed with open wire line. We ran 5 watts on solar power. I had a second K3 on six meters and dragged a 7 element 31 ft boom yagi along with 30 ft of Rohn 25. We used 1/2" hardline for the feedline. With the yagi, we heard a lot more than we could work, hearing other Field Day stations near New York City in NLI, NNJ,and ENY, but could not attract their attention with our puny 5 watts QRP signal. The band did open on Sunday morning and we worked a fair amount of Es stations in a few Florida sections, GA, AL, SC, and NC. The beam helped out a bunch and we were almost competitive with the local 100 watt FD stations. Locally, we worked ME, NH, VT, EMA, WMA, ENY, and heard RI, CT, NLI, EPA, and NNJ, Our QRP status and poor VHF location gave me the idea to bring a good beam antenna to help us out. I am glad I brought it. Yes I heard some raunchy sounding signals too. 100 watt bricks running on low batteries with mic gain fully clockwise can take your breath away! That ticking sound you heard is an artifact of the K3 synthesizer on a few bands including six meters. There is a mod to help cure it. You can hear it on a quiet band or with no antenna attached to the antenna jack. Dave K1WHS ps. A few guys thanked us for giving them Navassa this past winter. (tongue in cheek!) On 6/28/2016 4:56 AM, Gary Smith wrote: > I've never worked any 6M contacts until Field Day. Never had a 6M > radio till my old K3 but with my 360' of RG-8 and no 6M antenna, it > never happened. > > A friend recently gave me 360' of 7/8 50 ohm hardline and I found my > 160 sloper with my K3s could hear 6M signals and had a reasonably > decent SWR. None of my other wire antennas could do either well at > all. > > I noticed a few things in this little foray, 6M from SE Connecticut > was only open to the 4th call area. I did make one contact to Rhode > Island, not far away. > > What I found difficult was the intelligibility of many of the 6M > stations; many sounded almost like they were on LSB but they were on > USB. There was little to understand and it seemed like their signal > was maybe compressed. Others were clear as a bell but I only worked a > few as my amp is 160-10. I'm guessing some of the radios must have > had a problem, I thought it might be indicative of 6M contacts till I > heard the clear stations. But well more than half were impossible to > tune in easily. > > Another thing I noticed was when I was using the second preamp in the > K3s, I would hear a clicking in the audio as I tuned. It was like > every increment from the VFO equalled one low volume click. When I > stopped turning the VFO, the clicks stopped. Is this normal? > > Now I have RI, FL, GA and SC on 6M! Nice to have some new challenges, > seeing as ATNO in DXCC have become more rare. > > 73, > > Gary > KA1J > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k1whs at metrocast.net > From Rodenkirch_LLC at msn.com Tue Jun 28 10:17:26 2016 From: Rodenkirch_LLC at msn.com (James Rodenkirch) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 14:17:26 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K3s' KBPF3A and KTCX03 Message-ID: 1) Do I have this "right"??? The KBPF3A module adds general coverage down to 100 khz AND provides a .5 milliwatt output for/on the 630 meter band?? 2) Is anyone operating JT9/65 and/or WSPR successfully without the KTCX03 (those are two of the modes I'll employ on 630 meters) 72 de Jim R. K9JWV From grif80128 at comcast.net Tue Jun 28 10:31:14 2016 From: grif80128 at comcast.net (grif80128 at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 14:31:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] FD & 6 Meters In-Reply-To: <1771388800.34071316.1467123181892.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2124660514.34088999.1467124274782.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message: 22 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 00:56:16 -0400 From: "Gary Smith" < Gary at ka1j.com > Message-ID: < 57720370.25109.21C12AA at Gary.ka1j.com > " Extracts: I've never worked any 6M contacts until Field Day...my 160 sloper with my K3s ... 6M from SE Connecticut was only open to the 4th call area. ...What I found difficult was the intelligibility of many of the 6M stations; many sounded almost like they were on LSB but they were on USB. There was little to understand and it seemed like their signal was maybe compressed. Others were clear as a bell but I only worked a few as my amp is 160-10. I'm guessing some of the radios must have had a problem, I thought it might be indicative of 6M contacts till I heard the clear stations. But well more than half were impossible to tune in easily." -Gary KA1J ? Gary, I ran our 6 Meter station for the W0NT 7E effort using my K3S, the first time, and the club's 5 element yagi. Propagation is always a crap shoot on 6M. This year was characterized at our site by popcorn openings-an opening that seemed to explode open with a station's call and then disappear as quickly. The openings were sporatic. Heard IL, WI and actually worked a few TN stations.. Some audio signals were garbled, like aurora,?EME, or?long path and were very hard to copy. I had no large openings that would have allowed me to test the filtering capabilities of the K3S! Darn!!!! Roughly 25 contacts for 24 hrs...not up to expectations! No Es into California, which was running the past few days before FD. Perhaps the yagi was too much antenna.?A simple 6M dipole might have been a better choice. Thought about constructing one during the exercise but didn't want to miss any time away from the radio. Plenty of time to hone the antennas and technique between now and next FD. ? Jim KC0TRK From w7aqk at cox.net Tue Jun 28 10:58:46 2016 From: w7aqk at cox.net (w7aqk) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 07:58:46 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day Fun Killers Message-ID: <12AD1AF47D1A421883AB3B6DA71C7234@LAPTOPEPVQLR1I> Hi All, I have always considered Field Day to be the most enjoyable "event" of the year. Unfortunately, this year I was unable to participate "in the field" as I am busy getting ready for a long trip. Otherwise, I would have been out there with the rest of you. Long ago I determined that there were two things that could ruin Field Day for me--excessive heat and bugs (no, not the Vibroplex kind!). If I can't avoid both, I usually don't go! When I was living in "The South", both could be a problem. Here in the desert, it's the heat issue that I mainly have to deal with. Fortunately, there is a good choice of "high ground" nearby, so that problem is solvable. Since there typically isn't a lot of water nearby, the bug problem is usually minimized as well. My hat is most definitely off to those of you who can endure either or both of my "Field Day Fun Killers". Most of you who do that are probably east of the Rockies. I remember Field Days where the seemingly most important pieces of equipment were fans! The problem is that most of the time all those did was blow hot air around! High temperatures plus high humidity is a tough combination to combat. It doesn't take long before you wish you could take a shower--but you probably can't! It even makes grabbing a little shut eye difficult. Fighting the bug problem can be a bit easier, but takes some advance planning. My Field Day kit includes a large canopy of mosquito netting that can be suspended from most anything overhead, like a tree branch. A tent-like canopy with netting works too, but isn't always as convenient to locate. Fully enclosed tents tend to trap heat, so those don't always work well either. Planning for Field Day can be a year long event, particularly for larger groups. However, even the smaller operations need to start making a list early! Your "fun killer" list may not be the same as mine, but whatever it includes, you should consider early on how to deal with it. Starting the process now, while the problems are fresh in your mind, is probably one of the best things you can do. I've been reading a lot of complaints about high heat in the reports that have been posted so far. That's always a problem, but it just seems like it was more so this year. Even Wayne Burdick commented about some very high temperatures in his area, and I think this may be a sign of the times. I'm getting too old to have that kind of dedication. Here in my area it was well into the 100's down low, but in the 70's higher up. I will always opt for "up", even if I have to drive a bit further. Besides, there are trees up there! Again, I greatly admire the dedication that many (if not most) of you gave to this year's effort. However, I have to wonder if participating in those 5A/6A or higher groups, who's location choices are perhaps much more limited, is really worth it. Have you considered a 1A, or 2A operation in a much more hospitable location? The food may not be quite as good, but the experience can be well worth it! I know, it's often a "club thing", and that may well overrule all other concerns. However, you still might want to try it at least once--you might like it! For many years now I've operated strictly QRP CW in the field, and never had more fun! 73, Dave W7AQK From KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com Tue Jun 28 11:14:25 2016 From: KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 08:14:25 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Wall Wart for KX3 In-Reply-To: References: <00b601d1cf4e$63c293f0$2b47bbd0$@verizon.net> <1a512245-3d94-bb1d-ca5a-a814dbe8b2f1@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <4876916b-f8f0-f8b0-a9b9-0b64aa2450d8@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> The KX33 is 4 amps, and low RFI. $59 is a reasonable price. Mine works great. The one from Digikey is 2.66 amps, and doesn't claim to be RF-quiet. It is less expensive and a little smaller. I don't think I'd want to operate at full power with the Triad supply. 73 -- Lynn On 6/28/2016 5:35 AM, John Flynn wrote: > Maybe this one? > > http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?keywords=237-1445-nd > > 73, > > John K4ARQ > > On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT > > wrote: > > I've got one. Works well. > > > On 6/25/2016 7:57 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: > > This one > https://proaudioeng.com/products/pae-kx33-low-rfi-ac-power-supply/ > > 73, Phil W7OX > > On 6/25/16 6:59 PM, johnpierce wrote: > > A person recently provided a link to a clean Wall Wart > power supply he > bought for his KX3. I have searched for it and cannot > find it. Could > someone please repost the link? > > > John Pierce > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gio.flynn at gmail.com > > > > > -- > John Flynn > Tallahassee, Florida > USA From mbaileycrna at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 11:25:08 2016 From: mbaileycrna at gmail.com (Morgan Bailey) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 10:25:08 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day Report Message-ID: The Kaw Valley ARC in Topeka, Kansas has been doing field day for many years. It has run hot and cold. With the sun spot cycle heading in to the dumpster, 40 and 80 and possibly 160 will be the money bands for operation. This year my son, NS0R and I, NJ8M, worked, planned, built antennas and our club bought a set of band pass filters for 20 15 and 10. These were the new DX Engineering ones. They used a Triplexer and associated filters for the tribander. 2 dipoles one for 80 and one for 40 were set up for the club phone stations. They ran 2 stations there. Their radios are Icom 7000s. Most of our phone ops are not used to non arm chair copy and had GREAT difficulty listening through the QRM. This year we had a goal of 3000 qso's. bummer that we did not quite make it, 2701. Well there is always next year. The CW station that we operated was with one K3 and a K3S. Simple 6btv, 20 meter half square and 3 element 40 meter vertical array. With those antennas we were able to work 1600 cw Qs and about 200 ssb Qs. The K3/S performed well. No hitch or glitch. We had fun, now back to the drawing board for next years antennas. We are thinking about moxon for 20 meters and keeping the 40 meter array and then putting up a 53 ft vertical with a 9:1 unun to a remote latching relay tuner for 80 and etc instead of the 6btv. We have not wanted to get into the tower stuff but the phone guys, AKA, the rest of the club, put up the tower for ssb and made less then 300 Qs on 20, it is just a waste. We have found out that simpler antennas are best. I Was wondering if any one has much experience with a moxon beam antenna? Very 73, Morgan Bailey NJ8M From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Tue Jun 28 12:17:07 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 09:17:07 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] FD & 6 meters In-Reply-To: <5dd0afcd-0318-6b99-909d-b96d989b4e56@metrocast.net> References: <57720370.25109.21C12AA@Gary.ka1j.com> <5dd0afcd-0318-6b99-909d-b96d989b4e56@metrocast.net> Message-ID: <7d0139ab-c9a9-311b-e8c1-b133c153f957@audiosystemsgroup.com> On Tue,6/28/2016 6:10 AM, David Olean wrote: > FB on the six meter QSOs. You really need a dedicated antenna for six > to really enjoy the band. long wires work, but you need something > better if you start to get serious. Yes, BUT -- before I had a 6M antenna at my new QTH in W6, I had a pair of 80/40 fan dipoles up about 120 ft, fed with RG11. When 6M opened, I used them, switching between them on RX to see which heard the DX better and called on that antenna. With 100W, I made at least a dozen double-hop CW QSOs split between KH6 and W1/2/3/4, as well as a lot of single-hop Qs. My 3-3el SteppIR with the added fixed element works better. :) 73, Jim K9YC From w7aqk at cox.net Tue Jun 28 12:18:19 2016 From: w7aqk at cox.net (w7aqk) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 09:18:19 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Encoder Noise Message-ID: <148FDFF65DA84B12A7680A06E5A73576@LAPTOPEPVQLR1I> Hi All, On my KX3, I seem to be getting a very loud noise anytime I move the encoder on 6 meters. I don't notice that at all on any other bands. Any thoughts? Dave W7AQK From joberreu-elecraft at moselle.com Tue Jun 28 13:57:40 2016 From: joberreu-elecraft at moselle.com (Jessie Oberreuter) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 10:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Elecraft] Encoder Noise In-Reply-To: <148FDFF65DA84B12A7680A06E5A73576@LAPTOPEPVQLR1I> References: <148FDFF65DA84B12A7680A06E5A73576@LAPTOPEPVQLR1I> Message-ID: On Tue, 28 Jun 2016, w7aqk wrote: > On my KX3, I seem to be getting a very loud noise anytime I move the encoder > on 6 meters. I don't notice that at all on any other bands. http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX3%20Tuning%20Noise%20Mod%20rev%20B3.pdf (Linked from: http://www.elecraft.com/KX3/kx3_app_notes.htm) I have an earlier set of boards. Even with the mods, I still had a little noise in places. Not all of the upper bands, but some of them. Setting RX SHIFT=8.0 on the 1-2 bands still affected cleared it up. There's rarely a need for the hardware filters up there, and it's easy enough to flip 'em back on when needed. Wayne, Any chance of disabling the lock protocol when RX SHIFT is assigned to a programmable function key? There are times when I'd really like to be able to toggle it on and off with the push of a button. -kb7psg From gary at hawkins-zhu.com Tue Jun 28 14:07:20 2016 From: gary at hawkins-zhu.com (Gary Hawkins) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 11:07:20 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Blinking ON LED on KXPA100 Message-ID: I've just come back from Field Day operations and decided as I setup my KX3/KXPA100 station for JT-65/JT9 operation I would update the KX3 and KXPA100 firmware to the latest versions. The upgrades seemed to go OK on both units and I'm now running the latest versions of everything (KX3 MCU 2.38, DSP 1.37 and KXPA100 1.35). However, one thing that I don't remember seeing before is the KXPA100 ON light now blinks slowly when both units are powered up (KXPA100 switches on automatically when KX3 powered up as KX3 PA MODE = ON). Is this how the KXPA1000 should be operating and what does it mean? I can't seem to find any reference to this in the KXPA100 manual. All help greatly appreciated. 73's Gary K6YOA From w2blc at nycap.rr.com Tue Jun 28 14:13:46 2016 From: w2blc at nycap.rr.com (Bill) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 14:13:46 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K-pod - is it shipping? Message-ID: <2d59719a-13d1-3e46-6b04-9003029085ba@nycap.rr.com> The site info indicates the K-pod will start shipping on the 28th (today). Anyone get a notice from Elecraft indicating their's is on the way? Bill W2BLC K-Line From kg6mti at sbcglobal.net Tue Jun 28 14:18:04 2016 From: kg6mti at sbcglobal.net (David Davis) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 12:18:04 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] Blinking ON LED on KXPA100 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Gary I had the same question but someone else answered it before I got to ask. If the RF output from the KX3 to the KXPA100 is below 10 watts the power led will blink to indicate the KXPA100 is in bypass mode. You are all good to go. If you increase the drive power from the KX3 you will see the light stop blinking and the amp will be activated. Enjoy David KG6MTI Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 28, 2016, at 12:07, Gary Hawkins wrote: > > I've just come back from Field Day operations and decided as I setup my KX3/KXPA100 station for JT-65/JT9 operation I would update the KX3 and KXPA100 firmware to the latest versions. The upgrades seemed to go OK on both units and I'm now running the latest versions of everything (KX3 MCU 2.38, DSP 1.37 and KXPA100 1.35). > > However, one thing that I don't remember seeing before is the KXPA100 ON light now blinks slowly when both units are powered up (KXPA100 switches on automatically when KX3 powered up as KX3 PA MODE = ON). Is this how the KXPA1000 should be operating and what does it mean? I can't seem to find any reference to this in the KXPA100 manual. > > All help greatly appreciated. > > 73's Gary K6YOA > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kg6mti at sbcglobal.net From joberreu-elecraft at moselle.com Tue Jun 28 14:28:56 2016 From: joberreu-elecraft at moselle.com (Jessie Oberreuter) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 11:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Feature Request: memory write-locks Message-ID: I use 0 through 9 on the K2 and K3 as permanent "jump to band; configure appropriately" memories. This normally works great, but I have a frustrating habit of accidentally pressing STORE or V->M when I mean to press RCL or M->V, and there go my settings. I'm not expecting a K2 update :), but perhaps there might be a bit lying about in each K3 memory for a toggleable write-lock? From w7aqk at cox.net Tue Jun 28 14:31:01 2016 From: w7aqk at cox.net (w7aqk) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 11:31:01 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Encoder Noise In-Reply-To: References: <148FDFF65DA84B12A7680A06E5A73576@LAPTOPEPVQLR1I> Message-ID: <9AFBDD742D794E83A5389FFCC8F6092F@LAPTOPEPVQLR1I> That worked for me! Thanks! Dave W7AQK -----Original Message----- From: Jessie Oberreuter Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 10:57 AM To: w7aqk Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Encoder Noise On Tue, 28 Jun 2016, w7aqk wrote: > On my KX3, I seem to be getting a very loud noise anytime I move the > encoder on 6 meters. I don't notice that at all on any other bands. http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX3%20Tuning%20Noise%20Mod%20rev%20B3.pdf (Linked from: http://www.elecraft.com/KX3/kx3_app_notes.htm) I have an earlier set of boards. Even with the mods, I still had a little noise in places. Not all of the upper bands, but some of them. Setting RX SHIFT=8.0 on the 1-2 bands still affected cleared it up. There's rarely a need for the hardware filters up there, and it's easy enough to flip 'em back on when needed. Wayne, Any chance of disabling the lock protocol when RX SHIFT is assigned to a programmable function key? There are times when I'd really like to be able to toggle it on and off with the push of a button. -kb7psg From gary at hawkins-zhu.com Tue Jun 28 14:34:55 2016 From: gary at hawkins-zhu.com (Gary Hawkins) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 11:34:55 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Blinking ON LED on KXPA100 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13ddf80d-1015-1d34-7e53-17097c5fd1dd@hawkins-zhu.com> Thanks David that's exactly what is happening. 73's Gary K6YOA On 6/28/2016 11:18 AM, David Davis wrote: > Gary > > I had the same question but someone else answered it before I got to ask. > > If the RF output from the KX3 to the KXPA100 is below 10 watts the power led will blink to indicate the KXPA100 is in bypass mode. > > You are all good to go. If you increase the drive power from the KX3 you will see the light stop blinking and the amp will be activated. > > Enjoy > David > KG6MTI > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 28, 2016, at 12:07, Gary Hawkins wrote: >> >> I've just come back from Field Day operations and decided as I setup my KX3/KXPA100 station for JT-65/JT9 operation I would update the KX3 and KXPA100 firmware to the latest versions. The upgrades seemed to go OK on both units and I'm now running the latest versions of everything (KX3 MCU 2.38, DSP 1.37 and KXPA100 1.35). >> >> However, one thing that I don't remember seeing before is the KXPA100 ON light now blinks slowly when both units are powered up (KXPA100 switches on automatically when KX3 powered up as KX3 PA MODE = ON). Is this how the KXPA1000 should be operating and what does it mean? I can't seem to find any reference to this in the KXPA100 manual. >> >> All help greatly appreciated. >> >> 73's Gary K6YOA >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to kg6mti at sbcglobal.net > From w0mbt at w0mbt.net Tue Jun 28 15:48:52 2016 From: w0mbt at w0mbt.net (Bruce Nourish) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 19:48:52 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 and Pomona min-banana plugs Message-ID: Hi folks, Had lots of fun with my Elecraft gear this weekend. Only one thing caught me by surprise, that I figured was worth telling others about: The mini banana jack ground on the KX2 doesn't seem to be compatible with the mini-banana jacks and plugs sold by Pomona (e.g. #3296, #2945); the Pomona diameter is larger. This surprised me, because the KX1 documentation refers to the Pomona jacks and plugs as "mini-banana", so I assumed I would just be able to plug my wire antennas, which run to Pomona mini-banana jacks, into the ground port, but that didn't work. As far as I know, only the KX2GNDPLUG sold by Elecraft will fit that jack. Not a big deal, just thought this might be useful to people ordering a KX2. Bruce From w2blc at nycap.rr.com Tue Jun 28 16:26:27 2016 From: w2blc at nycap.rr.com (Bill) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 16:26:27 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K-pod - is it shipping? In-Reply-To: <2d59719a-13d1-3e46-6b04-9003029085ba@nycap.rr.com> References: <2d59719a-13d1-3e46-6b04-9003029085ba@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: <969ef597-3b47-6982-7a1d-b316571f4eb4@nycap.rr.com> I have received email replies regarding my question that varied from "stop telling jokes" to "stop causing trouble" to "must be too lazy to reach across your desk!" Be warned, further hate mail will get posted for all to see! Bill W2BLC From k9jri at mac.com Tue Jun 28 16:36:45 2016 From: k9jri at mac.com (Michael Blake) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 20:36:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 - Win4K3 Message-ID: I just spent a few hours configuring and then using Tom's Win4K3 software with my KX3. It is a wonderful tool if you use your KX3 as a home station rig as I do. Thanks Tom for such a quality piece of software for the K3/KX3. Very 73 - Mike - K9JRI From eckerpw at yahoo.com Tue Jun 28 16:44:07 2016 From: eckerpw at yahoo.com (paul ecker) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 20:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] FSQCALL PTT Issue (K3) References: <1028063749.3132553.1467146647536.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1028063749.3132553.1467146647536.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Wondering if anyone is group is having success running FSQCALL with their K3. When I open the program, the K3 red Tx light immediately comes on and thus no audio is received. It seems like there is an issue in the PTT/CAT settings,(where I have selected the comport, radio type-00,older kenwood and --Use PTT.) ?My PC is Win 7 and interface is microHam DK II. I am using virtual comports created using the microHam usb device router software. I am able to operate other digital programs, such as wsjt-x and fldigi using the same setup. Have K3 in data a mode and microHam dk II input and outputs selected in the audio setup. I have posted the problem 2x in the FSQCALL Reflector and no one has been able to assist. Be great to hook up with someone who is using FSQCALL to compare setups. 73Paulkc2nyu From lists at subich.com Tue Jun 28 16:57:31 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 16:57:31 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FSQCALL PTT Issue (K3) In-Reply-To: <1028063749.3132553.1467146647536.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1028063749.3132553.1467146647536.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1028063749.3132553.1467146647536.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: What software are you using for FSQCALL? I see at least three programs that support FSQ mode. What are the PTT settings in your software? Is your software trying to do handhsake on the CAT Port and asserting RTS on the CAT Port as soon as the software starts? What PTT options are enabled in microHAM Router? Is "Sound card PTT" checked in microHAM Router and does your software open the sound card for transmit as soon as it starts? Do you have "Use Q-CW" or "Use P-FSK" checked in microHAM Router and does your software generate audio on the *right* channel of the sound card? 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 6/28/2016 4:44 PM, paul ecker via Elecraft wrote: > Wondering if anyone is group is having success running FSQCALL with their K3. When I open the program, the K3 red Tx light immediately comes on and thus no audio is received. It seems like there is an issue in the PTT/CAT settings,(where I have selected the comport, radio type-00,older kenwood and --Use PTT.) My PC is Win 7 and interface is microHam DK II. I am using virtual comports created using the microHam usb device router software. I am able to operate other digital programs, such as wsjt-x and fldigi using the same setup. Have K3 in data a mode and microHam dk II input and outputs selected in the audio setup. I have posted the problem 2x in the FSQCALL Reflector and no one has been able to assist. Be great to hook up with someone who is using FSQCALL to compare setups. > 73Paulkc2nyu > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to lists at subich.com > From eric at elecraft.com Tue Jun 28 17:20:37 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 14:20:37 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K-pod - is it shipping? In-Reply-To: <969ef597-3b47-6982-7a1d-b316571f4eb4@nycap.rr.com> References: <2d59719a-13d1-3e46-6b04-9003029085ba@nycap.rr.com> <969ef597-3b47-6982-7a1d-b316571f4eb4@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: <31a9b4f2-e3db-4da7-70eb-c0e5c5b2133c@elecraft.com> Folks - abusive mail, snide remarks etc sent to list members is in direct violation of list policy. If anyone receives a negative posting, please send it to me and I will discuss it strongly with the sender. 73, Eric /List moderator - elecraft.com/ On 6/28/2016 1:26 PM, Bill wrote: > I have received email replies regarding my question that varied from "stop > telling jokes" to "stop causing trouble" to "must be too lazy to reach across > your desk!" > > Be warned, further hate mail will get posted for all to see! From eckerpw at yahoo.com Tue Jun 28 17:20:52 2016 From: eckerpw at yahoo.com (paul ecker) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 21:20:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] FSQCALL (K3) References: <1298323026.3193792.1467148852056.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1298323026.3193792.1467148852056.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Joe- replies embedded at dashes in italics What softwareare you using for FSQCALL?? I see atleast three programs that supportFSQ mode. -- usingFSQCALL v0.36 by ZL2APF?What are thePTT settings in your software??- settings inPTT/Cat settings ?are com14 --00,kenwood(oldermodels) -- Use PTTIs your software trying to?do hand shake on the CAT Port and asserting RTS on the CAT Port as soonas the software starts?--- Not sure how to check that??What PTToptions are enabled in microHAM Router? -- com11 forRTS (same port as for CAT)?Is"Sound card PTT" checked in microHAM Router?-- on PTT tab, Sound card PTT is checked and does your software?open thesound card for transmit as soon as it starts?-- yes when FSQCALl opens, the icon for it opens in Windows Volume Mixer?Do you have"Use Q-CW" or "Use P-FSK" checked in microHAM Router -- No and does yoursoftware generate audio on the *right* channel of the sound card? -- when Iopen the program and it puts K3 in tx, there is no audio showing in rightchannel 73Paulkc2nyu? From eric at elecraft.com Tue Jun 28 17:23:56 2016 From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 14:23:56 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K-pod - is it shipping? In-Reply-To: <2d59719a-13d1-3e46-6b04-9003029085ba@nycap.rr.com> References: <2d59719a-13d1-3e46-6b04-9003029085ba@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: <69c2becd-b478-44b0-3b34-05ce3ccbafbe@elecraft.com> We should start shipping our backlog later this week. We are building them in production and are just waiting release of the K-Pod utility for f/w updates. It will take several weeks to ship everything on the backlog. 73, Eric /elecraft.com/ On 6/28/2016 11:13 AM, Bill wrote: > The site info indicates the K-pod will start shipping on the 28th (today). > Anyone get a notice from Elecraft indicating their's is on the way? > > Bill W2BLC K-Line From lists at subich.com Tue Jun 28 17:46:26 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 17:46:26 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FSQCALL (K3) In-Reply-To: <1298323026.3193792.1467148852056.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1298323026.3193792.1467148852056.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1298323026.3193792.1467148852056.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5bcc4b34-5e56-803f-954a-f7434d1c8638@subich.com> On 6/28/2016 5:20 PM, paul ecker via Elecraft wrote: > Joe- replies embedded at dashes in italics This list is *text only.* HTML formatting is stripped by the mailing list software. Please properly quote and embed your replies (as below) so those trying to answer/help you can not only find your replies but understand to what you are replying. >> Is"Sound card PTT" checked in microHAM Router > > -- on PTT tab, Sound card PTT is checked *UNCHECK* "Sound card PTT" >> does your software open the sound card for transmit as soon as it >> starts?-- > > yes when FSQCALl opens, the icon for it opens in Windows Volume > Mixer That's gutter (lazy) programming. The sound card output endpoint should be opened when the program switches to transmit and closed when the program returns to receive. "Sound card PTT" relies on the internal flag (which is bought out to a status pin on the CODEC chip) that indicates whether the end- point is open or closed in order to generate PTT. *DISABLE* Sound card PTT by unchecking the box in microHAM Router (PTT Tab). Please refer to the Users Manual for your microHAM interface. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 6/28/2016 5:20 PM, paul ecker via Elecraft wrote: > Joe- replies embedded at dashes in italics > > What softwareare you using for FSQCALL? I see atleast three > programs > > that supportFSQ mode. > > -- usingFSQCALL v0.36 by ZL2APF What are thePTT settings in your > software? - settings inPTT/Cat settings are com14 > --00,kenwood(oldermodels) -- Use PTTIs your software trying to do > hand shake on the CAT Port and asserting RTS on the CAT Port as > soonas the software starts?--- Not sure how to check that? What > PTToptions are enabled in microHAM Router? > > -- com11 forRTS (same port as for CAT) Is"Sound card PTT" checked in > microHAM Router -- on PTT tab, Sound card PTT is checked and does > your software open thesound card for transmit as soon as it starts?-- > yes when FSQCALl opens, the icon for it opens in Windows Volume Mixer > Do you have"Use Q-CW" or "Use P-FSK" checked in microHAM Router > > -- No > > and does yoursoftware generate audio on the *right* channel of the > sound > > card? > > -- when Iopen the program and it puts K3 in tx, there is no audio > showing in rightchannel 73Paulkc2nyu > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list Home: > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: > http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: > mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this > email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > lists at subich.com > From daleputnam at hotmail.com Tue Jun 28 18:21:26 2016 From: daleputnam at hotmail.com (Dale Putnam) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 22:21:26 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: RMRc net Message-ID: Mother Nature wins this one.. Had AA7CU check in on 20.. but heard no one else.. went to QSY and was reminded to look outside, checked the lightning map, https://www.lightningmaps.org/?lang=en#m=sat;r=0;t=2;s=0;o=0;b=;n=0;y=41.1444;x=-104.6104;z=10;d=2;dl=2;dc=0; and decided discretion is the better part of valor.. so.. cancelled the RMRC net on 40. This is a long term, slow moving, charged storm.. See you Thurs. Have a great day, --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy From frantz at pwpconsult.com Tue Jun 28 18:40:15 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 15:40:15 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Setup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Nick, KZ2V, a super CW op, told me that he learned to operate paddles left handed (he is right handed) so he could write with his right hand. I watched him operate during Field Day, and he did indeed use the paddle left handed when the N1MN macros weren't up to what he needed to send. BTW, while I was listening in to the CW operations, we had an about 9 year old girl come into the tent. She plugged her headphones in next to mine and listened to CW operations for quite a long time. We also had a lot of kids in the the GOTA tent, and some 20 something operators ran our digital station throughout the night letting this 72 year old man get some badly needed sleep. (Thanks guys!) 73 Bill AE6JV On 6/27/16 at 2:22 PM, k3ndm at comcast.net (Barry LaZar) wrote: >To make it simple, a single lever paddle works essentially like >a dual paddle one, push to one side for dots and the other for >dashes. For most operators, that is all that is needed. You >will need to set the menu item for keyer to tip=dot, or reverse >if you are left handed. > >If you are asking this question, iambic operation should not be >your worry at this point. Just make sure you have a cable that >is 2 conductor with a shield. One wire should go to the dot >connection on the paddle and the other to the dash side. Just >make sure to note which color you used for which. connect the >dot side to the connect tip, the dash side to the ring, and the >ground to the ground on the connector. You'll be ready to go. > >Your next problem will be to get the feel, setting sending >speed, and adjusting the screws and adjustments on the paddle >so it feels good to you. Start slowly and work up. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Concurrency is hard. 12 out | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | 10 programmers get it wrong. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | - Jeff Frantz | Los Gatos, CA 95032 From frantz at pwpconsult.com Tue Jun 28 18:40:20 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 15:40:20 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] N1MM and KX3 In-Reply-To: <1467048527913-7619323.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: For me, Field Day is how I cut my eye teeth on contesting, so I consider it a contest. But it is also so much more: Public outreach, Party, Camping trip, Emergency preparedness drill, etc. etc. etc. On the other hand, I generally don't enter contests to try to have a big score. I enter them to have fun. (But big scores are fun too.) For example, to test my digital station for Field Day, I entered the Ukrainian RTTY contest. Working in that contest got all the bugs worked out of my setup, and reminded me how to get around the bugs in the computer software I used. The big bonus was two ATNOs. 73 Bill AE6JV On 6/27/16 at 10:28 AM, rodenkirch_llc at msn.com (Jim Rodenkirch) wrote: >I see you're a "FD isn't a contest" devote.....you've sipped the ARRL >'non-contest' kool-aid....yeah, sure....that's why the arrl scores entries, >'cuz it's not a contest....hi hi ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | I don't have high-speed | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | internet. I have DSL. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | | Los Gatos, CA 95032 From frantz at pwpconsult.com Tue Jun 28 18:40:26 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 15:40:26 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] MFJ-4416B Battery Booster RF sensing In-Reply-To: <1C78B4D4-83F7-4453-9416-58D3CFC7B056@i29.net> Message-ID: I have a N8XJK boost regulator which has RF switching like your booster. I use a UHF "T" connector -- 2 female and 1 male. I connect the male plug directly to the booster and then use coax jumpers to connect the radio and the antenna. That way the stub is so short that it doesn't have a noticeable effect on the antenna match. 73 Bill AE6JV On 6/26/16 at 7:51 PM, w0cz at i29.net (Kenneth Christiansen) wrote: >I plan to go on vacation in about a week and bought a MFJ-4416B >battery booster to use with my KX3 and KPA100 in my camper. I >see a SO239 jack on the booster that needs some RF to turn the >unit on during transmit and off during receive. I tried letting >it run during receive but it makes a low level nasty >interference on 20 CW. Does anyone have experience feeding RF >to that jack? I feel it would be undesirable to have a branch >off my feed line that would act as a tuned stub. I feel the RF >switching would be desirable but need to know the best way to >do it. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Truth and love must prevail | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | over lies and hate. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | - Vaclav Havel | Los Gatos, CA 95032 From marrotte at verizon.net Tue Jun 28 18:57:06 2016 From: marrotte at verizon.net (Roger Marrotte) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 18:57:06 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K-pod - is it shipping? In-Reply-To: <69c2becd-b478-44b0-3b34-05ce3ccbafbe@elecraft.com> References: <2d59719a-13d1-3e46-6b04-9003029085ba@nycap.rr.com> <69c2becd-b478-44b0-3b34-05ce3ccbafbe@elecraft.com> Message-ID: <000d01d1d190$656504b0$302f0e10$@verizon.net> Good to hear Eric. How about the KXPD2. It's listed as also shipping starting today? Roger, W1EM __________________________________________________________________ Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K-pod - is it shipping? We should start shipping our backlog later this week. We are building them in production and are just waiting release of the K-Pod utility for f/w updates. It will take several weeks to ship everything on the backlog. 73, Eric /elecraft.com/ From jameguffey at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 18:59:45 2016 From: jameguffey at gmail.com (Jim Guffey) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 17:59:45 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day Report Message-ID: I have been a Ham for 25 years but this is the first year I have seriously participated in field day. I had a blast! I had some family obligations so I was only on the air for 10 hours. My setup was very small. I just bought a K1 a few months ago and I was a little skeptical about how many contacts I would make with the bands being in bad shape and how crowed it was. But I tell you I had no trouble making contacts. If I could hear them I could work them. I made 110 contacts, 54 sections, 37 states and the Bahamas. My set up was the Elecraft K1 with 20 and 40 meters, a LNR Precision EF-10/20/40 MKII EndFedz Antenna sloped with the high end at 22' and a 6ah battery. I have order a KX2 that should be here Friday but I am keeping the K1. CW is just too much fun. Next year I am going to set up in the woods somewhere and I want to double my number of contacts. From greenacres113 at charter.net Tue Jun 28 19:35:49 2016 From: greenacres113 at charter.net (greenacres113 at charter.net) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 18:35:49 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Moxon ant.s Message-ID: If u like building ant.s I recommend a Moxon. Simple to build, less footprint & they really work. Especially on HF. Some use them on 6m too. I have a homebrew 30m built on R L Cebiks design. Cobbled from an old Mosley tribander & a CB Moonraker boom. Weighs less than 25 lbs. & is at 47' up. I use the K line with the KPA set to 200w. Don't use the amp often but nice to run 200w sometimes. I chase DX & ragchew on 30m. I'm often asked what my ant. is because of the signal it puts out. I believe it's showing two S units gain & the front to side is really great. Direct 50 ohm feed so no tuner required. Currently I have 310 countries confirmed on one of our truly underused bands. Some guys have converted 2 el 40m beams to Moxons & really think they perform better. It's a seldom seen yagi in NA but a lot of EU DXers swear by them. K9IL From kstover at ac0h.net Tue Jun 28 19:48:15 2016 From: kstover at ac0h.net (Kevin) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 18:48:15 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] FD Propagation In-Reply-To: <1467079226039-7619353.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <04B78E12-6847-4A8E-A0DF-B7E59848A7D6@law.du.edu> <1467079226039-7619353.post@n2.nabble.com> Message-ID: <442bad88-2b18-f1cd-caae-35a6a0049562@ac0h.net> We did it every year. On 6/27/2016 9:00 PM, Bill W4ZV wrote: > Edward A. Dauer wrote >> At about 1930 Z last Sunday, during the final hours of FD, it seemed that >> HF propagation completely collapsed where I was. Ten went away, not ever >> having been open much, then 15 went completely dead, 40 at about the same >> time except for some locals, 80 had been useless all afternoon, and >> finally by about 2000Z there were only eight or ten signals left on 20. >> Finis, all done, as quickly as I?ve ever seen it. I went CL with over an >> hour of contest left. > The majority of clubs set up before FD begins at 1800 UTC Saturday so > activity falls off a cliff 24 hours later. > > "3.2. Stations who begin setting up before 1800 UTC Saturday may work only > 24 consecutive hours, > commencing when on-the-air operations begin." > > 73, Bill W4ZV > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/FD-Propagation-tp7619346p7619353.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kstover at ac0h.net --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From k6dgw at foothill.net Tue Jun 28 19:52:10 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 16:52:10 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Setup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This seems to be very common among left-handed operators, I'm one, and my left-handed Elmer explained I would learn to send right-handed so I could write legibly in my log ... logs were a Big Deal in the earlier 50's when he was teaching me code in his dining room. The importance of logs has declined over the years, but the pattern seems to persist. Some years back we conducted a survey of paddlers on this list. The survey sample was self-selected, woefully too small, and the statistical validity of the results is approaching "none." However, just about 50% of the responding left-handers paddled right, for various reasons, writing in the log was a big one. Zero right-handed responders paddled left for the same [or any] reasons. One reason cited by southpaws for paddling north was that most of the owners of stations where they guest op are northpaws. Being able to paddle right can be an advantage there. It is for me at W7RN. I've paddled with either hand for years and have two paddles, and many others do too. Do what works for you, there is no "right" way to send Morse code. The goal is to enjoy doing it. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org On 6/28/2016 3:40 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: > Nick, KZ2V, a super CW op, told me that he learned to operate paddles > left handed (he is right handed) so he could write with his right hand. > I watched him operate during Field Day, and he did indeed use the paddle > left handed when the N1MN macros weren't up to what he needed to send. From n1al at sonic.net Tue Jun 28 20:04:37 2016 From: n1al at sonic.net (Alan Bloom) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 17:04:37 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Setup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57731095.9000600@sonic.net> > Zero right-handed responders paddled > left for the same [or any] reasons. Here's one. In college I was rooming with a left-handed ham about the time I was switching from a straight key. So I learned on his left-handed bug. To this day I can send with either hand on a bug or keyer. Alan N1AL On 06/28/2016 04:52 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > This seems to be very common among left-handed operators, I'm one, and > my left-handed Elmer explained I would learn to send right-handed so I > could write legibly in my log ... logs were a Big Deal in the earlier > 50's when he was teaching me code in his dining room. The importance of > logs has declined over the years, but the pattern seems to persist. > > Some years back we conducted a survey of paddlers on this list. The > survey sample was self-selected, woefully too small, and the statistical > validity of the results is approaching "none." However, just about 50% > of the responding left-handers paddled right, for various reasons, > writing in the log was a big one. Zero right-handed responders paddled > left for the same [or any] reasons. > > One reason cited by southpaws for paddling north was that most of the > owners of stations where they guest op are northpaws. Being able to > paddle right can be an advantage there. It is for me at W7RN. I've > paddled with either hand for years and have two paddles, and many others > do too. Do what works for you, there is no "right" way to send Morse > code. The goal is to enjoy doing it. > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > - Northern California Contest Club > - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 > - www.cqp.org > > On 6/28/2016 3:40 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: >> Nick, KZ2V, a super CW op, told me that he learned to operate paddles >> left handed (he is right handed) so he could write with his right hand. >> I watched him operate during Field Day, and he did indeed use the paddle >> left handed when the N1MN macros weren't up to what he needed to send. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n1al at sonic.net From frantz at pwpconsult.com Tue Jun 28 20:11:37 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 17:11:37 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Setup In-Reply-To: <57731095.9000600@sonic.net> Message-ID: Nick, KZ2V is also right handed, but sends left handed, so he's another. (I don't know if he can send right handed.) 73 Bill AE6JV On 6/28/16 at 5:04 PM, n1al at sonic.net (Alan Bloom) wrote: >Here's one. In college I was rooming with a left-handed ham >about the time I was switching from a straight key. So I >learned on his left-handed bug. To this day I can send with >either hand on a bug or keyer. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | I don't have high-speed | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | internet. I have DSL. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | | Los Gatos, CA 95032 From kf5wdj at att.net Tue Jun 28 20:13:42 2016 From: kf5wdj at att.net (J David Overton) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 19:13:42 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KD5C Message-ID: <2C45759E-DBBA-402C-8875-A07C944ABB60@att.net> Our club had a great Field Day with K3 radios. We had four of them running - two for CW, one for SSB Phone, and one for GOTA (operating as W5MAF). We had a great time with the three KD5C stations making over 800 contacts each. YeeHaw! Sent from my iPhone From kevin at k4vd.net Tue Jun 28 20:23:40 2016 From: kevin at k4vd.net (Kevin - K4VD) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 20:23:40 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day Report In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nice! I really enjoy hearing about good results with a minimal setup. I was real pleased with how well the KX3 setup up, ran and then packed away. I didn't know what to expect but was kept quite busy. It is all about being on the air. Hope you enjoy the KX2 and the K1 continues to get a workout. Kev On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Jim Guffey wrote: > I have been a Ham for 25 years but this is the first year I have seriously > participated in field day. I had a blast! I had some family obligations so > I was only on the air for 10 hours. > > > My setup was very small. I just bought a K1 a few months ago and I was a > little skeptical about how many contacts I would make with the bands being > in bad shape and how crowed it was. But I tell you I had no trouble making > contacts. If I could hear them I could work them. I made 110 contacts, 54 > sections, 37 states and the Bahamas. > > > My set up was the Elecraft K1 with 20 and 40 meters, a LNR Precision > EF-10/20/40 MKII EndFedz Antenna sloped with the high end at 22' and a 6ah > battery. > > > I have order a KX2 that should be here Friday but I am keeping the K1. CW > is just too much fun. > > > Next year I am going to set up in the woods somewhere and I want to double > my number of contacts. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevin at k4vd.net > From farrerfolks at yahoo.com Tue Jun 28 20:32:21 2016 From: farrerfolks at yahoo.com (Mel Farrer) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 00:32:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] CW Setup In-Reply-To: References: <57731095.9000600@sonic.net> Message-ID: <1492205962.629527.1467160341156.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> The trick is winning the battle with the fourth grade teacher WHO demanded everyone write? with their right hand.? To this day I can sign my name with either hand and send with either one, straight or bug, but I throw and shoot right handed.? We didn't have left handed rifles in my day...... Mel, K6KBE From: Bill Frantz To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Setup Nick, KZ2V is also right handed, but sends left handed, so he's another. (I don't know if he can send right handed.) 73 Bill AE6JV On 6/28/16 at 5:04 PM, n1al at sonic.net (Alan Bloom) wrote: >Here's one.? In college I was rooming with a left-handed ham >about the time I was switching from a straight key.? So I >learned on his left-handed bug.? To this day I can send with >either hand on a bug or keyer. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz? ? ? ? | I don't have high-speed? ? ? | Periwinkle (408)356-8506? ? ? | internet. I have DSL.? ? ? ? | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com |? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? | Los Gatos, CA 95032 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to farrerfolks at yahoo.com From pincon at erols.com Tue Jun 28 21:01:20 2016 From: pincon at erols.com (Charlie T, K3ICH) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 21:01:20 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Setup In-Reply-To: References: <57731095.9000600@sonic.net> Message-ID: <007e01d1d1a1$c3e8f8a0$4bbae9e0$@erols.com> Most people can send with either hand suing a keyer. Just make sure your thumb is making the dots. You may not THINK you can until you try it. 73, Charlie k3ICH -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Frantz Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 8:12 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Setup Nick, KZ2V is also right handed, but sends left handed, so he's another. (I don't know if he can send right handed.) 73 Bill AE6JV On 6/28/16 at 5:04 PM, n1al at sonic.net (Alan Bloom) wrote: >Here's one. In college I was rooming with a left-handed ham about the >time I was switching from a straight key. So I learned on his >left-handed bug. To this day I can send with either hand on a bug or >keyer. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | I don't have high-speed | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | internet. I have DSL. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | | Los Gatos, CA 95032 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pincon at erols.com From w6jhb at me.com Tue Jun 28 21:09:30 2016 From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 18:09:30 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] MFJ-4416B Battery Booster RF sensing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <873ED00E-B850-4A08-A52E-FB55B6E64E4D@me.com> Bill and Ken - I too have the N8XJK boost regulator and mine made some trash on a few bands. This was very easily resolved with a 2.5 inch mix 31 ferrite core with several turns of the supply line wound through it. LOTS easier than messing with the RF sense stuff on the unit. I have zero garbage coming from the regulator with the ferrite on the line. Jim / W6JHBH > On Tuesday, Jun 28, 2016, at Tuesday, 3:40 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: > > I have a N8XJK boost regulator which has RF switching like your booster. I use a UHF "T" connector -- 2 female and 1 male. I connect the male plug directly to the booster and then use coax jumpers to connect the radio and the antenna. That way the stub is so short that it doesn't have a noticeable effect on the antenna match. > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > On 6/26/16 at 7:51 PM, w0cz at i29.net (Kenneth Christiansen) wrote: > >> I plan to go on vacation in about a week and bought a MFJ-4416B battery booster to use with my KX3 and KPA100 in my camper. I see a SO239 jack on the booster that needs some RF to turn the unit on during transmit and off during receive. I tried letting it run during receive but it makes a low level nasty interference on 20 CW. Does anyone have experience feeding RF to that jack? I feel it would be undesirable to have a branch off my feed line that would act as a tuned stub. I feel the RF switching would be desirable but need to know the best way to do it. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz | Truth and love must prevail | Periwinkle > (408)356-8506 | over lies and hate. | 16345 Englewood Ave > www.pwpconsult.com | - Vaclav Havel | Los Gatos, CA 95032 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w6jhb at me.com From kevinr at coho.net Tue Jun 28 21:21:04 2016 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr at coho.net) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 18:21:04 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Setup In-Reply-To: <007e01d1d1a1$c3e8f8a0$4bbae9e0$@erols.com> References: <57731095.9000600@sonic.net> <007e01d1d1a1$c3e8f8a0$4bbae9e0$@erols.com> Message-ID: <131a7adc-c5d7-786a-2b26-20025cbedec0@coho.net> After ten years of using CW almost daily I tried a straight key for the first time. I was amazed at how simple it was to form characters; the spacing was built in to me. My K2's keyer with paddles made my ears (and muscles) sensitive to the variety of spaces we use. I can't use a straight key for long because of wrist injuries but it is nice to know how easy it is to use if I have to. 73, Kevin. KD5ONS On 6/28/2016 6:01 PM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote: > Most people can send with either hand suing a keyer. > Just make sure your thumb is making the dots. > You may not THINK you can until you try it. > > 73, Charlie k3ICH > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill > Frantz > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 8:12 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Setup > > Nick, KZ2V is also right handed, but sends left handed, so he's another. (I > don't know if he can send right handed.) > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > On 6/28/16 at 5:04 PM, n1al at sonic.net (Alan Bloom) wrote: > >> Here's one. In college I was rooming with a left-handed ham about the >> time I was switching from a straight key. So I learned on his >> left-handed bug. To this day I can send with either hand on a bug or >> keyer. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz | I don't have high-speed | Periwinkle > (408)356-8506 | internet. I have DSL. | 16345 > Englewood Ave > www.pwpconsult.com | | Los Gatos, > CA 95032 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to pincon at erols.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevinr at coho.net > From gallsup at whoi.edu Tue Jun 28 21:36:52 2016 From: gallsup at whoi.edu (geoff allsup) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 21:36:52 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Setup In-Reply-To: <007e01d1d1a1$c3e8f8a0$4bbae9e0$@erols.com> References: <57731095.9000600@sonic.net> <007e01d1d1a1$c3e8f8a0$4bbae9e0$@erols.com> Message-ID: :-) discovered that back in the 70s - turn the paddle around backwards under your 'wrong hand' and just go! geoff - W1OH On 6/28/16 21:01, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote: > Most people can send with either hand suing a keyer. > Just make sure your thumb is making the dots. > You may not THINK you can until you try it. > > 73, Charlie k3ICH > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill > Frantz > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 8:12 PM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Setup > > Nick, KZ2V is also right handed, but sends left handed, so he's another. (I > don't know if he can send right handed.) > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > On 6/28/16 at 5:04 PM, n1al at sonic.net (Alan Bloom) wrote: > >> Here's one. In college I was rooming with a left-handed ham about the >> time I was switching from a straight key. So I learned on his >> left-handed bug. To this day I can send with either hand on a bug or >> keyer. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz | I don't have high-speed | Periwinkle > (408)356-8506 | internet. I have DSL. | 16345 > Englewood Ave > www.pwpconsult.com | | Los Gatos, > CA 95032 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to pincon at erols.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gallsup at whoi.edu > -- ******************************************************************* Geoff Allsup, W1OH gallsup at whoi.edu or w1oh at whoi.edu Senior Engineer Upper Ocean Processes Group Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Woods Hole, MA, USA ******************************************************************* From alsopb at comcast.net Tue Jun 28 22:09:05 2016 From: alsopb at comcast.net (brian) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 02:09:05 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S new synthesizer query Message-ID: <57732DC1.1040902@comcast.net> Please correct me if I am wrong. I believe the heart of the new synthesizer is a SI-570. Great phase noise but the output frequency is quite sensitive to temperature changes. It has been observed that the corrections to bring the synthesizer in step with the master oscillator happen over longer and longer periods as the K3 warms up. It never seems to reach a point of stability even after 24 hours of warmup. Is there some kind of thermal material that one can put around the SI-570 to lengthen these periods and/or reduce it's drift? 73 de Brian/K3KO From w4sc at windstream.net Tue Jun 28 22:18:35 2016 From: w4sc at windstream.net (w4sc) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 22:18:35 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 and Pomona min-banana plugs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <754AAAAA30704BDBA53BC098F16364B9@z22z28> I have Pomona 2945-1 plug that fits great. de Ben W4SC From donwilh at embarqmail.com Tue Jun 28 23:02:28 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 23:02:28 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3S new synthesizer query In-Reply-To: <57732DC1.1040902@comcast.net> References: <57732DC1.1040902@comcast.net> Message-ID: Brian, The main frequency determining element in the K3/K3S is the TCXO and not the SI-570. Are you looking only at the native SI-570 thermal data, or are you finding from our measurements that the SI-570 in the new synth boards is not following the stability of the TCXO? The SI-570 should slave off the frequency of the TCXO. I do not know the rate of synchronization between the SI-570 and the TCXO, so I will have to leave that part of your question unanswered. Perhaps the engineer for the new synth boards will respond with definitive information. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/28/2016 10:09 PM, brian wrote: > Please correct me if I am wrong. > > I believe the heart of the new synthesizer is a SI-570. > > Great phase noise but the output frequency is quite sensitive to > temperature changes. > > It has been observed that the corrections to bring the synthesizer in > step with the master oscillator happen over longer and longer periods > as the K3 warms up. It never seems to reach a point of stability even > after 24 hours of warmup. > From ron at cobi.biz Tue Jun 28 23:04:30 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 20:04:30 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day Fun Killers In-Reply-To: <12AD1AF47D1A421883AB3B6DA71C7234@LAPTOPEPVQLR1I> References: <12AD1AF47D1A421883AB3B6DA71C7234@LAPTOPEPVQLR1I> Message-ID: <000001d1d1b2$f4fed3e0$defc7ba0$@biz> Come to the Pacific Northwest coast. High temps this time of the year are generally in the 60's, never above 70, and no bugs. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of w7aqk Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 7:59 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day Fun Killers Hi All, I have always considered Field Day to be the most enjoyable "event" of the year. Unfortunately, this year I was unable to participate "in the field" as I am busy getting ready for a long trip. Otherwise, I would have been out there with the rest of you. Long ago I determined that there were two things that could ruin Field Day for me--excessive heat and bugs (no, not the Vibroplex kind!). If I can't avoid both, I usually don't go! When I was living in "The South", both could be a problem. Here in the desert, it's the heat issue that I mainly have to deal with. Fortunately, there is a good choice of "high ground" nearby, so that problem is solvable. Since there typically isn't a lot of water nearby, the bug problem is usually minimized as well. My hat is most definitely off to those of you who can endure either or both of my "Field Day Fun Killers". Most of you who do that are probably east of the Rockies. I remember Field Days where the seemingly most important pieces of equipment were fans! The problem is that most of the time all those did was blow hot air around! High temperatures plus high humidity is a tough combination to combat. It doesn't take long before you wish you could take a shower--but you probably can't! It even makes grabbing a little shut eye difficult. Fighting the bug problem can be a bit easier, but takes some advance planning. My Field Day kit includes a large canopy of mosquito netting that can be suspended from most anything overhead, like a tree branch. A tent-like canopy with netting works too, but isn't always as convenient to locate. Fully enclosed tents tend to trap heat, so those don't always work well either. Planning for Field Day can be a year long event, particularly for larger groups. However, even the smaller operations need to start making a list early! Your "fun killer" list may not be the same as mine, but whatever it includes, you should consider early on how to deal with it. Starting the process now, while the problems are fresh in your mind, is probably one of the best things you can do. I've been reading a lot of complaints about high heat in the reports that have been posted so far. That's always a problem, but it just seems like it was more so this year. Even Wayne Burdick commented about some very high temperatures in his area, and I think this may be a sign of the times. I'm getting too old to have that kind of dedication. Here in my area it was well into the 100's down low, but in the 70's higher up. I will always opt for "up", even if I have to drive a bit further. Besides, there are trees up there! Again, I greatly admire the dedication that many (if not most) of you gave to this year's effort. However, I have to wonder if participating in those 5A/6A or higher groups, who's location choices are perhaps much more limited, is really worth it. Have you considered a 1A, or 2A operation in a much more hospitable location? The food may not be quite as good, but the experience can be well worth it! I know, it's often a "club thing", and that may well overrule all other concerns. However, you still might want to try it at least once--you might like it! For many years now I've operated strictly QRP CW in the field, and never had more fun! 73, Dave W7AQK ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From tim at sy-edm.com Tue Jun 28 23:15:01 2016 From: tim at sy-edm.com (a45wg) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 07:15:01 +0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day Report In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0FD73B58-D737-41FA-9530-8A6169E6B67B@sy-edm.com> Morgan, Very interesting report regarding your FD activities. I have - although I do not use any more a Moxton Rectangle called a ?Cobweb? after Steve Cobb who designed and built it. My experiences over the past 10 years with it has been Positive points a) It Works b) Tunes well c) Simple - to Install and Repair d) Low Weight yielding great survivability e) Relatively Omni directional Give it a go - I am 100% sure it will work for you. regards Tim - A45WG > On 28 Jun 2016, at 19:25, Morgan Bailey wrote: > > The Kaw Valley ARC in Topeka, Kansas has been doing field day for many > years. It has run hot and cold. With the sun spot cycle heading in to the > dumpster, 40 and 80 and possibly 160 will be the money bands for operation. > This year my son, NS0R and I, NJ8M, worked, planned, built antennas and our > club bought a set of band pass filters for 20 15 and 10. These were the new > DX Engineering ones. They used a Triplexer and associated filters for the > tribander. 2 dipoles one for 80 and one for 40 were set up for the club > phone stations. They ran 2 stations there. Their radios are Icom 7000s. > Most of our phone ops are not used to non arm chair copy and had GREAT > difficulty listening through the QRM. > > This year we had a goal of 3000 qso's. bummer that we did not quite make > it, 2701. Well there is always next year. > > The CW station that we operated was with one K3 and a K3S. Simple 6btv, 20 > meter half square and 3 element 40 meter vertical array. With those > antennas we were able to work 1600 cw Qs and about 200 ssb Qs. The K3/S > performed well. No hitch or glitch. We had fun, now back to the drawing > board for next years antennas. We are thinking about moxon for 20 meters > and keeping the 40 meter array and then putting up a 53 ft vertical with a > 9:1 unun to a remote latching relay tuner for 80 and etc instead of the > 6btv. > > We have not wanted to get into the tower stuff but the phone guys, AKA, the > rest of the club, put up the tower for ssb and made less then 300 Qs on 20, > it is just a waste. > > We have found out that simpler antennas are best. > > I Was wondering if any one has much experience with a moxon beam antenna? > > Very 73, > > Morgan Bailey NJ8M > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to a45wg at sy-edm.com From w0mbt at w0mbt.net Tue Jun 28 23:17:27 2016 From: w0mbt at w0mbt.net (Bruce Nourish) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 03:17:27 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 and Pomona min-banana plugs In-Reply-To: <754AAAAA30704BDBA53BC098F16364B9@z22z28> References: <754AAAAA30704BDBA53BC098F16364B9@z22z28> Message-ID: Huh... mine don't. Maybe they're bent wider from months of abuse in backpacks? On Tue, Jun 28, 2016, 19:19 w4sc wrote: > I have Pomona 2945-1 plug that fits great. > de Ben W4SC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w0mbt at w0mbt.net > From kevinr at coho.net Tue Jun 28 23:31:30 2016 From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr at coho.net) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 20:31:30 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day Fun Killers In-Reply-To: <000001d1d1b2$f4fed3e0$defc7ba0$@biz> References: <12AD1AF47D1A421883AB3B6DA71C7234@LAPTOPEPVQLR1I> <000001d1d1b2$f4fed3e0$defc7ba0$@biz> Message-ID: <9b01490e-2ec5-429b-7d3b-01c97f969abb@coho.net> In the Coast Range on Sunday it rose to a scorching 77 degrees! FD in the PNW :) 73, Kevin. KD5ONS On 6/28/2016 8:04 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > Come to the Pacific Northwest coast. High temps this time of the year are > generally in the 60's, never above 70, and no bugs. > > 73, Ron AC7AC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of w7aqk > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 7:59 AM > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day Fun Killers > > Hi All, > > I have always considered Field Day to be the most enjoyable "event" of the > year. Unfortunately, this year I was unable to participate "in the field" > as I am busy getting ready for a long trip. Otherwise, I would have been > out there with the rest of you. > > Long ago I determined that there were two things that could ruin Field Day > for me--excessive heat and bugs (no, not the Vibroplex kind!). If I can't > avoid both, I usually don't go! When I was living in "The South", both > could be a problem. Here in the desert, it's the heat issue that I mainly > have to deal with. Fortunately, there is a good choice of "high ground" > nearby, so that problem is solvable. Since there typically isn't a lot of > water nearby, the bug problem is usually minimized as well. > > My hat is most definitely off to those of you who can endure either or both > of my "Field Day Fun Killers". Most of you who do that are probably east of > the Rockies. I remember Field Days where the seemingly most important > pieces of equipment were fans! The problem is that most of the time all > those did was blow hot air around! High temperatures plus high humidity is > a tough combination to combat. It doesn't take long before you wish you > could take a shower--but you probably can't! It even makes grabbing a > little shut eye difficult. > > Fighting the bug problem can be a bit easier, but takes some advance > planning. My Field Day kit includes a large canopy of mosquito netting that > can be suspended from most anything overhead, like a tree branch. A > tent-like canopy with netting works too, but isn't always as convenient to > locate. Fully enclosed tents tend to trap heat, so those don't always work > well either. > > Planning for Field Day can be a year long event, particularly for larger > groups. However, even the smaller operations need to start making a list > early! Your "fun killer" list may not be the same as mine, but whatever it > includes, you should consider early on how to deal with it. Starting the > process now, while the problems are fresh in your mind, is probably one of > the best things you can do. > > I've been reading a lot of complaints about high heat in the reports that > have been posted so far. That's always a problem, but it just seems like it > was more so this year. Even Wayne Burdick commented about some very high > temperatures in his area, and I think this may be a sign of the times. I'm > getting too old to have that kind of dedication. Here in my area it was > well into the 100's down low, but in the 70's higher up. I will always opt > for "up", even if I have to drive a bit further. Besides, there are trees > up there! > > Again, I greatly admire the dedication that many (if not most) of you gave > to this year's effort. However, I have to wonder if participating in those > 5A/6A or higher groups, who's location choices are perhaps much more > limited, is really worth it. Have you considered a 1A, or 2A operation in a > much more hospitable location? The food may not be quite as good, but the > experience can be well worth it! I know, it's often a "club thing", and > that may well overrule all other concerns. However, you still might want to > try it at least once--you might like it! For many years now I've operated > strictly QRP CW in the field, and never had more fun! > > 73, > > Dave W7AQK > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to ron at elecraft.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kevinr at coho.net > From n6kr at elecraft.com Tue Jun 28 23:51:02 2016 From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 20:51:02 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 and Pomona min-banana plugs In-Reply-To: <754AAAAA30704BDBA53BC098F16364B9@z22z28> References: <754AAAAA30704BDBA53BC098F16364B9@z22z28> Message-ID: Mini-bananas will fit in a .104" inch hole, like the one on the KX2's left side panel. Regular banana plugs requires something like .175". Wayne N6KR On Jun 28, 2016, at 7:18 PM, "w4sc" wrote: > I have Pomona 2945-1 plug that fits great. > de Ben W4SC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com From ed at w0yk.com Tue Jun 28 23:54:53 2016 From: ed at w0yk.com (Ed Muns) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 20:54:53 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K-Pod owner's manual? In-Reply-To: <48f1b85a-052b-8dc9-73c7-3e1385a74672@ptd.net> References: <20160628020556.948BE149B464@mailman.qth.net> <48f1b85a-052b-8dc9-73c7-3e1385a74672@ptd.net> Message-ID: Yes, a printed copy came with my Field Test unit. Ron is pushing to get a PDF online. Ed W0YK ____________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Bob [mailto:K2TK at ptd.net] Sent: 27 June, 2016 20:00 To: Ed Muns; Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K-Pod owner's manual? How? Are you a beta tester? Sure wish it was available so the mod could be done for power via the interconnect cable. Be plug and play ready then. After all shipping starts tomorrow per Web shipping status. Anybody taking bets? Bob K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) and K2TKR On 6/27/2016 10:03 PM, Ed Muns wrote: > Yes. > > 73, > Ed W0YK > On Jun 27, 2016 6:33 PM, Ian wrote: >> Anyone seen an owner's manual for the K-Pod? >> 73, Ian N8IK >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> From frantz at pwpconsult.com Wed Jun 29 01:57:20 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 22:57:20 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day Report In-Reply-To: <0FD73B58-D737-41FA-9530-8A6169E6B67B@sy-edm.com> Message-ID: The West Valley Amateur Radio Association (using K6EI) had a "normal" field day. We operated 12A QRP battery. We had CW, Phone, digital stations on bands from 80M to 23cm. We had 4 towers with Yagis and wire antennas for the lower frequency bands. I don't have information about our CW, SSB, or GOTA contacts, but our HF digital numbers were down from last year while our VHF and above numbers were up. We probably had 20-30 people operating. We do have an open door policy for operators since our goal is to have as much fun as possible rather than to get the highest score possible and the more the merrier. 73 Bill AE6JV ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Concurrency is hard. 12 out | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | 10 programmers get it wrong. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | - Jeff Frantz | Los Gatos, CA 95032 From dl2ydp at mail.ru Wed Jun 29 03:41:31 2016 From: dl2ydp at mail.ru (Roger) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 00:41:31 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K3S new synthesizer query In-Reply-To: References: <57732DC1.1040902@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1467186091155-7619416.post@n2.nabble.com> Brian, My K3 shows the same behavior. I have no solution to the problem. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3S-new-synthesizer-query-tp7619407p7619416.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From k9ztv at socket.net Wed Jun 29 06:15:19 2016 From: k9ztv at socket.net (K9ZTV) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 05:15:19 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Setup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No, Fred. The goal is to send perfect code, whether you enjoy it or not. ? 73, Kent K9ZTV > On Jun 28, 2016, at 6:52 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > > Do what works for you, there is no "right" way to send Morse code. The goal is to enjoy doing it. > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW From eckerpw at yahoo.com Wed Jun 29 09:41:59 2016 From: eckerpw at yahoo.com (paul ecker) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:41:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] FSQCALL PTT (K3) References: <1606553316.3558753.1467207719983.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1606553316.3558753.1467207719983.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> >> Joe- you said "*UNCHECK* "Sound card PTT"""Sound card PTT" relies on the internal flag (which is bought out to a status pin on the CODEC chip) that indicates whether the end- point is open or closed in order to generate PTT.? *DISABLE* Sound card PTT by unchecking the box in microHAM Router (PTT Tab).">> OK, Sound card PTT now unchecked>> So that solved the K3 immediately having the Tx light coming on at Program >>start and I am now Rx'ing just fine. But the only way I get the FSQCALL >>program to Tx is to use Vox on the K3. At Program start, the PTT/CAT settings >>window comes up every time. If I choose PTT or CAT, it says comport already in >>use. So I cancel the settings window and use Vox. It works but not sure it is >>ideal. >>73 Paul>>kc2nyu On 6/28/2016 5:20 PM, paul ecker via Elecraft wrote: > Joe- replies embedded at dashes in italics This list is *text only.*? HTML formatting is stripped by the mailing list software.? Please properly quote and embed your replies (as below) so those trying to answer/help you can not only find your replies but understand to what you are replying. >> Is"Sound card PTT" checked in microHAM Router > > -- on PTT tab, Sound card PTT is checked *UNCHECK* "Sound card PTT" >> does your software open the sound card for transmit as soon as it >> starts?-- > > yes when FSQCALl opens, the icon for it opens in Windows Volume > Mixer That's gutter (lazy) programming.? The sound card output endpoint should be opened when the program switches to transmit and closed when the program returns to receive. "Sound card PTT" relies on the internal flag (which is bought out to a status pin on the CODEC chip) that indicates whether the end- point is open or closed in order to generate PTT.? *DISABLE* Sound card PTT by unchecking the box in microHAM Router (PTT Tab). Please refer to the Users Manual for your microHAM interface. 73, ? ... Joe, W4TV From lists at subich.com Wed Jun 29 10:29:28 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 10:29:28 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] FSQCALL PTT (K3) In-Reply-To: <1606553316.3558753.1467207719983.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1606553316.3558753.1467207719983.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1606553316.3558753.1467207719983.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <55207cf4-55a2-9dd9-bb2f-898709eda5ae@subich.com> On 6/29/2016 9:41 AM, paul ecker via Elecraft wrote: >>> Joe- you said > "*UNCHECK* "Sound card PTT"""Sound card PTT" relies on the internal flag (which is bought out > to a status pin on the CODEC chip) that indicates whether the end- > point is open or closed in order to generate PTT. *DISABLE* Sound > card PTT by unchecking the box in microHAM Router (PTT Tab).">> OK, Sound card PTT now unchecked>> So that solved the K3 immediately having the Tx light coming on at Program >>start and I am now Rx'ing just fine. But the only way I get the FSQCALL >>program to Tx is to use Vox on the K3. At Program start, the PTT/CAT settings >>window comes up every time. If I choose PTT or CAT, it says comport already in >>use. So I cancel the settings window and use Vox. It works but not sure it is >>ideal. >>73 Paul>>kc2nyu Please use or between lines ... your use of HTML makes your postings nearly unreadable. >> OK, Sound card PTT now unchecked So that solved the K3 >> immediately having the Tx light coming on at Program start and I >> am now Rx'ing just fine. But the only way I get the FSQCALL >> program to Tx is to use Vox on the K3. Yes, that will work. >> At Program start, the PTT/CAT settings window comes up every time. That appears to be the nature of the software. For some reason it requires electing the PTT/CAT settings each time the program starts rather than settings in the ini file. >> If I choose PTT or CAT, it says comport already in use. So I cancel >> the settings window and use Vox. It works but not sure it is >> ideal. You will need to make sure no other program is currently using the CAT Port. Windows does not allow sharing of ports. Any program using a port must close (release) the port before another program can open (begin using it). These issues are not functions of the microHAM hardware or software - they are limitations of the application software and user understanding of Windows. 73, ... Joe, W4TV > On 6/28/2016 5:20 PM, paul ecker via Elecraft wrote: >> Joe- replies embedded at dashes in italics > > This list is *text only.* HTML formatting is stripped by the > mailing list software. Please properly quote and embed your > replies (as below) so those trying to answer/help you can not > only find your replies but understand to what you are replying. > >>> Is"Sound card PTT" checked in microHAM Router >> >> -- on PTT tab, Sound card PTT is checked > > *UNCHECK* "Sound card PTT" > >>> does your software open the sound card for transmit as soon as it >>> starts?-- >> >> yes when FSQCALl opens, the icon for it opens in Windows Volume >> Mixer > > That's gutter (lazy) programming. The sound card output endpoint > should be opened when the program switches to transmit and closed > when the program returns to receive. > > "Sound card PTT" relies on the internal flag (which is bought out > to a status pin on the CODEC chip) that indicates whether the end- > point is open or closed in order to generate PTT. *DISABLE* Sound > card PTT by unchecking the box in microHAM Router (PTT Tab). > > Please refer to the Users Manual for your microHAM interface. > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > From todd at ruby-wine.com Wed Jun 29 10:35:22 2016 From: todd at ruby-wine.com (todd ruby) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 10:35:22 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 boards Message-ID: I have a self assembled K3 and at the time I did not want to get the board that had the second SO-239 antenna port but now I do. I do not see it as being available on the Elecraft site. As a matter of fact there is little in the way of further K3 hardware support. Also I wanted to install the KIO3B board with USB and the board that has the 12,10 and 6 meter preamplifiers on it, which is standard on the K3S. Are these boards not possible to be installed on a K3? Thanks to all todd WB2ZAB From w7ox at socal.rr.com Wed Jun 29 10:47:04 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 07:47:04 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 boards In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4bc500ec-4575-3a63-f529-a78fa9740789@socal.rr.com> Todd, You might find this of interest http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3S-FAQ%20rev%20C9.pdf in particular pages 2 & 3. 73, Phil W7OX On 6/29/16 7:35 AM, todd ruby wrote: > I have a self assembled K3 and at the time I did not want to get the board that had the second SO-239 antenna port but now I do. I do not see it as being available on the Elecraft site. As a matter of fact there is little in the way of further K3 hardware support. > > Also I wanted to install the KIO3B board with USB and the board that has the 12,10 and 6 meter preamplifiers on it, which is standard on the K3S. Are these boards not possible to be installed on a K3? > > Thanks to all > > todd > WB2ZAB From tomb18 at videotron.ca Wed Jun 29 10:54:53 2016 From: tomb18 at videotron.ca (tomb18) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 10:54:53 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Does the KX2 have weaver SSB demodulation? Message-ID: The manual makes no mention. Is this the case?Thanks, Tom?va2fsq.com? Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. From cautery at montac.com Wed Jun 29 10:58:25 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 09:58:25 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Full bandwidth crashes... Making K3s/P3 radio unusable. Message-ID: Please check out my link to the video and picture of my P3 showing: 1) Repetitive broadband crash from below 580 kHz to over 54MHz... 2) Machine-like... between 1/2 to 1 second between crashes. 3) Amplitude varies across the bands, but S7 on the P3 and S9+10 to S9+20 on the K3s is about average. 4) Switches off for a while and then comes back... Almost like an electric fence someone is turning on when they let their pet(s) out... Here's the link to my FaceBook post on this: https://www.facebook.com/cautery/posts/10153479517312303 Going through the docs Jim (KY9C) provided links to trying to ID it for myself. Don't want to start another RFI thread with drift, so feel free to respond directly rather than to the reflector. Please help! Making it almost impossible to use my radio, and surely makes me not WANT to use it!! 73, -- ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 From lists at subich.com Wed Jun 29 10:58:55 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 10:58:55 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 boards In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54f5877e-9806-367a-27c3-e65081db44c2@subich.com> > I do not see it as being available on the Elecraft site. See KAT3A Internal ATU here: http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm#k3 > Also I wanted to install the KIO3B board with USB and the board that > has the 12,10 and 6 meter preamplifiers on it, which is standard on > the K3S. Are these boards not possible to be installed on a K3? See "KIO3BUPKT KIO3B Upgrade Kit for K3" and "KXV3B RX Ant., 2nd Pre-Amp, IF Out and Xverter Interface upgrade for earlier K3 radios" here: http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm#k3 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 6/29/2016 10:35 AM, todd ruby wrote: > I have a self assembled K3 and at the time I did not want to get the board that had the second SO-239 antenna port but now I do. I do not see it as being available on the Elecraft site. As a matter of fact there is little in the way of further K3 hardware support. > > Also I wanted to install the KIO3B board with USB and the board that has the 12,10 and 6 meter preamplifiers on it, which is standard on the K3S. Are these boards not possible to be installed on a K3? > > Thanks to all > > todd > WB2ZAB > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to lists at subich.com > From eckerpw at yahoo.com Wed Jun 29 11:31:51 2016 From: eckerpw at yahoo.com (paul ecker) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:31:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] FSQCALL PTT (K3) References: <677352879.3667283.1467214311758.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <677352879.3667283.1467214311758.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Joe- understand and thanks very much for the help.? Paul kc2nyu >>?You will need to make sure no other program is currently using theCAT Port. Windows does not allow sharing of ports. Any program using a port must close (release) the port before another program can open (begin using it). These issues are not functions of the microHAM hardware or software - they are limitations of the application software and user understanding of Windows. 73, ... Joe, W4TV From elecraftcovers at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 11:46:04 2016 From: elecraftcovers at gmail.com (Rose) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 09:46:04 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] Full bandwidth crashes... Making K3s/P3 radio unusable. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Clay .. There's a type of electric fence commonly called a "weed burner" that produces a continuous voltage rather than a +/- one second pulse. The concept is for the voltage to burn away any vegetation that grows into contact with the fence. Many years ago I had a neighbor that used a neon sign transformer (15 KV @ 10 MA) to energize his fence..... Let us know what you find ... 73 K0PP On Jun 29, 2016 9:02 AM, "Clay Autery" wrote: Please check out my link to the video and picture of my P3 showing: 1) Repetitive broadband crash from below 580 kHz to over 54MHz... 2) Machine-like... between 1/2 to 1 second between crashes. 3) Amplitude varies across the bands, but S7 on the P3 and S9+10 to S9+20 on the K3s is about average. 4) Switches off for a while and then comes back... Almost like an electric fence someone is turning on when they let their pet(s) out... Here's the link to my FaceBook post on this: https://www.facebook.com/cautery/posts/10153479517312303 Going through the docs Jim (KY9C) provided links to trying to ID it for myself. Don't want to start another RFI thread with drift, so feel free to respond directly rather than to the reflector. Please help! Making it almost impossible to use my radio, and surely makes me not WANT to use it!! 73, -- ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to elecraftcovers at gmail.com From edauer at law.du.edu Wed Jun 29 13:05:35 2016 From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 17:05:35 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 mod for K-Pod Message-ID: <637E86C0-067E-4334-8F25-526511BFE015@law.du.edu> Just put in my order for a K-pod. Has anyone yet done the K3 mod that allows DC power through the data cable? How did it go? Tnx, Ted, KN1CBR From kl7uw at acsalaska.net Wed Jun 29 13:10:03 2016 From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 09:10:03 -0800 Subject: [Elecraft] FD & 6 meters Message-ID: <201606291710.u5THA6D2012423@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> Dave, Still waiting on ARRL for my K1/W1AW card from your 2m eme operation during the Centennial Year. Regarding use of a long wire for 6m, I completely agree. Yes, you may be able to load such an antenna but it will hardly operate efficiently (multiple lobes in unknown directions). A friend uses a G5RV on 6m with his IC910H and does not get out enough radiation to produce a copyable signal at my QTH only 15 miles away (I am using either KX3 or K3+PR6 with 6-element yagi which can copy 6m eme signals). He might do better loading a dummy load? He has 6m yagi but has not yet installed it. Much better putting up a simple 6m dipole than trying to load an HF antenna. I built one with some 1/2-inch conduit and a board for center insulator which worked roving in one of the VHF Contests. I was away from home on FD so not able to monitor any of the bands (20m was hoping late at night when we got home). First year in many that I did not help my local club with FD. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: dubususa at gmail.com From nr4c at widomaker.com Wed Jun 29 13:17:46 2016 From: nr4c at widomaker.com (Nr4c) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:17:46 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 boards In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7BC9EAD3-42B0-4636-972C-2120E36764E1@widomaker.com> They're probably listed under K3S. Easiest is to use the phone, tell them what you want and order it. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jun 29, 2016, at 10:35 AM, todd ruby wrote: > > I have a self assembled K3 and at the time I did not want to get the board that had the second SO-239 antenna port but now I do. I do not see it as being available on the Elecraft site. As a matter of fact there is little in the way of further K3 hardware support. > > Also I wanted to install the KIO3B board with USB and the board that has the 12,10 and 6 meter preamplifiers on it, which is standard on the K3S. Are these boards not possible to be installed on a K3? > > Thanks to all > > todd > WB2ZAB > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nr4c at widomaker.com From donwilh at embarqmail.com Wed Jun 29 13:25:48 2016 From: donwilh at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:25:48 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 boards In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1579119f-5a79-df4b-3d9f-4578bd371bb3@embarqmail.com> Todd, All that is possible to install on the K3. You want the KAT3A option for the K3S and K3. See the K3S order page. The KIO3B option is available for the K3 as well as the KXV3B - see the list of upgrades for the K3 on http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm#k3 - scroll down a bit to Upgrades for the K3. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/29/2016 10:35 AM, todd ruby wrote: > I have a self assembled K3 and at the time I did not want to get the board that had the second SO-239 antenna port but now I do. I do not see it as being available on the Elecraft site. As a matter of fact there is little in the way of further K3 hardware support. > > Also I wanted to install the KIO3B board with USB and the board that has the 12,10 and 6 meter preamplifiers on it, which is standard on the K3S. Are these boards not possible to be installed on a K3? > > From w0mbt at w0mbt.net Wed Jun 29 13:48:39 2016 From: w0mbt at w0mbt.net (Bruce Nourish) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 17:48:39 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 and Pomona min-banana plugs In-Reply-To: References: <754AAAAA30704BDBA53BC098F16364B9@z22z28> Message-ID: Hmm... I guess mine are bent out of shape a little, or maybe I just haven't tried pushing hard enough. I'll buy some new ones and see what happens. Thanks! On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 8:51 PM Wayne Burdick wrote: > Mini-bananas will fit in a .104" inch hole, like the one on the KX2's left > side panel. Regular banana plugs requires something like .175". > > Wayne > N6KR > > > On Jun 28, 2016, at 7:18 PM, "w4sc" wrote: > > > I have Pomona 2945-1 plug that fits great. > > de Ben W4SC > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w0mbt at w0mbt.net > From frantz at pwpconsult.com Wed Jun 29 14:15:01 2016 From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 11:15:01 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 boards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I just finished installing these two boards in my K3. It took about 3 hours from checking the contents of the kits to my first PSK31 QSO. My initial impressions are favorable, particularly the relative lack of wire clutter behind the K3. Setting up for digital and adjusting the levels is the same as with an external sound card. I use VOX for TX control and it works the same way too. 73 Bill AE6JV On 6/29/16 at 7:35 AM, todd at ruby-wine.com (todd ruby) wrote: >Also I wanted to install the KIO3B board with USB and the board >that has the 12,10 and 6 meter preamplifiers on it, which is >standard on the K3S. Are these boards not possible to be >installed on a K3? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | gets() remains as a monument | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | to C's continuing support of | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | buffer overruns. | Los Gatos, CA 95032 From w4sc at windstream.net Wed Jun 29 15:44:41 2016 From: w4sc at windstream.net (w4sc) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:44:41 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 and Pomona min-banana plugs In-Reply-To: References: <754AAAAA30704BDBA53BC098F16364B9@z22z28> Message-ID: It is a bit of a tight fit.. make sure you have the plug axially aligned with the hole. From: Bruce Nourish Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 1:48 PM To: Wayne Burdick ; w4sc Cc: Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and Pomona min-banana plugs Hmm... I guess mine are bent out of shape a little, or maybe I just haven't tried pushing hard enough. I'll buy some new ones and see what happens. Thanks! On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 8:51 PM Wayne Burdick wrote: Mini-bananas will fit in a .104" inch hole, like the one on the KX2's left side panel. Regular banana plugs requires something like .175". Wayne N6KR On Jun 28, 2016, at 7:18 PM, "w4sc" wrote: > I have Pomona 2945-1 plug that fits great. > de Ben W4SC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n6kr at elecraft.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w0mbt at w0mbt.net From ppauly at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 15:47:41 2016 From: ppauly at gmail.com (Peter Pauly) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:47:41 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Remove metal hanger from MH3 microphone? Message-ID: Can the piece of metal on the MH3 be removed by taking the microphone apart? I doubt that I'll ever use it and the chances of it scratching my radio faceplate are very high. From ron at cobi.biz Wed Jun 29 18:46:50 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:46:50 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Remove metal hanger from MH3 microphone? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000301d1d258$2039f800$60ade800$@biz> Just remove the one screw holding it. The screw goes into threaded bushing on the back cover that stays in place. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Peter Pauly Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 12:48 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Remove metal hanger from MH3 microphone? Can the piece of metal on the MH3 be removed by taking the microphone apart? I doubt that I'll ever use it and the chances of it scratching my radio faceplate are very high. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From ron at cobi.biz Wed Jun 29 18:58:35 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:58:35 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Remove metal hanger from MH3 microphone? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000401d1d259$c4f221a0$4ed664e0$@biz> Sri, my quick comment is misleading. It comes off as I described but on the MH3 the bushing is really a nut pressed into a plastic opening on the inside of the case back. If you apply any pressure to the screw while removing it, you can push the nut out of position and so you'd have to open the case to put the hanger back on, so be careful. Getting to the threaded bushing inside involves opening the case and removing the pc board. Not hard, but fussy to do. 73 Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Peter Pauly Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 12:48 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Remove metal hanger from MH3 microphone? Can the piece of metal on the MH3 be removed by taking the microphone apart? I doubt that I'll ever use it and the chances of it scratching my radio faceplate are very high. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From w6jhb at me.com Wed Jun 29 19:20:44 2016 From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 16:20:44 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Nice To Work Another Elecraft Owner... Message-ID: <39993E07-96EF-49C1-BDDE-462E6E68A76D@me.com> Especially when the station worked is "Mr. Low Band" himself! This morning on 20 meter CW I was running my KX3 (driving the KPA500 at about 190 watts to a doublet) when I ran across John, ON4UN calling CQ. He was running his K3 and an amp at about a KW into a five element yagi. Nice strong signals both directions. In case you aren't familiar with the call, ON4UN is the author of the widely read ARRL book "Low Band DXing". Sorry for the bandwidth, but after having read the book several times and using parts of it as a guide for my own 80 and 160 meter setup, it was a pleasant surprise to run into him on the air! Jim Bennett / W6JHB Folsom, CA From lmarion at mt.net Wed Jun 29 19:23:08 2016 From: lmarion at mt.net (lmarion) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 17:23:08 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 mod for K-Pod level of difficulty In-Reply-To: <637E86C0-067E-4334-8F25-526511BFE015@law.du.edu> References: <637E86C0-067E-4334-8F25-526511BFE015@law.du.edu> Message-ID: <93E28F82B14D40A184C8064FE680886F@LeroyPC> Any one who can show pictures and advise me on the K3S mod would be a big help. I have had a stroke since building the K2 100, and every thing else Elecraft has ever made. And it took my dominant right side to boot. So I am debating whether to send it to Elecraft for the mod or if I am able to do it "left hand". Its $99 plus shipping to have Elecraft do it. I just bought the K3S and Kpod at the same time. I think they should have done the mod before they shipped it, since they had the rig apart already to install the many options I ordered. Maybe a phone call and or email to buyers in the future sales to let buyers know there is a mod that is nice to have. Just in case you want the pros at Elecraft to do it if you are not able. Regards, Leroy AB7CE -----Original Message----- From: Dauer, Edward Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 11:05 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 mod for K-Pod Just put in my order for a K-pod. Has anyone yet done the K3 mod that allows DC power through the data cable? How did it go? Tnx, Ted, KN1CBR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to lmarion at mt.net From wunder at wunderwood.org Wed Jun 29 19:38:56 2016 From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 16:38:56 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Nice To Work Another Elecraft Owner... In-Reply-To: <39993E07-96EF-49C1-BDDE-462E6E68A76D@me.com> References: <39993E07-96EF-49C1-BDDE-462E6E68A76D@me.com> Message-ID: Funny, I just sent an e-mail about a youth at the Pacificon station a couple of years ago. I walked by and heard that he was working ON4UN! wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jun 29, 2016, at 4:20 PM, James Bennett wrote: > > Especially when the station worked is "Mr. Low Band" himself! This morning on 20 meter CW I was running my KX3 (driving the KPA500 at about 190 watts to a doublet) when I ran across John, ON4UN calling CQ. He was running his K3 and an amp at about a KW into a five element yagi. Nice strong signals both directions. > > In case you aren't familiar with the call, ON4UN is the author of the widely read ARRL book "Low Band DXing". > > Sorry for the bandwidth, but after having read the book several times and using parts of it as a guide for my own 80 and 160 meter setup, it was a pleasant surprise to run into him on the air! > > Jim Bennett / W6JHB > Folsom, CA > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wunder at wunderwood.org From mgold at pathcom.com Wed Jun 29 21:01:09 2016 From: mgold at pathcom.com (Mike Goldstein) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 21:01:09 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Setup Message-ID: <20160630010107.415B84A3E86@smtp-outbound01.tor.pathcom.com> Well, as a ham who once tried a paddle back in the early 'sixties, then went back to the bug, I can claim the electronic keyer in my K3 gets very little action! I send on a bug with my left hand, but at age 16, who knew there were left handed bugs? I learned on a right-handed bug, and have used my bugs backwards for almost 60 years ... I only realized I was doing it wrong after reading a QST article where the hero said "... so I thumbed a fast five ...". Hmmmm ... he uses his thumb to send dits? But I use my thumb to send dahs ... In my defense, however, I will confess that I taught myself to paddle a canoe on the right side, after having mastered the left ... just for those very windy days, when I'm in the canoe by myself. 73 Mike VE3GFN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From k6dgw at foothill.net Wed Jun 29 21:48:06 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 18:48:06 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Setup In-Reply-To: <20160630010107.415B84A3E86@smtp-outbound01.tor.pathcom.com> References: <20160630010107.415B84A3E86@smtp-outbound01.tor.pathcom.com> Message-ID: <035a324b-4d17-1f8a-53cd-42d445b083ca@foothill.net> Mike, it's the tyranny of the majority ... left-handed scissors cost twice as much. I equate paddling a canoe [without getting wet] and flying a helicopter [without getting wet] to be in the same class, never mastered either. 73, Fred K6DGW Sparks NV Washoe County DM09dn On 6/29/2016 6:01 PM, Mike Goldstein wrote: > Well, as a ham who once tried a paddle back in the early 'sixties, then > went back to the bug, I can claim the electronic keyer in my K3 gets > very little action! I send on a bug with my left hand, but at age 16, > who knew there were left handed bugs? I learned on a right-handed bug, > and have used my bugs backwards for almost 60 years ... I only realized > I was doing it wrong after reading a QST article where the hero said > "... so I thumbed a fast five ...". Hmmmm ... he uses his thumb to send > dits? But I use my thumb to send dahs ... > > In my defense, however, I will confess that I taught myself to paddle a > canoe on the right side, after having mastered the left ... just for > those very windy days, when I'm in the canoe by myself. 73 Mike VE3GFN From ron at cobi.biz Wed Jun 29 22:55:10 2016 From: ron at cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 19:55:10 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 mod for K-Pod level of difficulty In-Reply-To: <93E28F82B14D40A184C8064FE680886F@LeroyPC> References: <637E86C0-067E-4334-8F25-526511BFE015@law.du.edu> <93E28F82B14D40A184C8064FE680886F@LeroyPC> Message-ID: <001101d1d27a$d13c5450$73b4fcf0$@biz> Any K3S later than serial number 10787 (kit) or 10801 (factory assembled) can power the K-Pod without further modification. The change was made on all subsequent units. So I'd hazard the guess that yours is "ready to roll" without any further issues. Yes, the K-Pod Owner's manual advises owners of older K3s or K3 rigs that Elecraft will do the mod for them. Optionally, you can simply power the K-Pod from the 12 VDC power connector on the back panel of the K3. A suitable power cable is included with the K-Pod. 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of lmarion Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 4:23 PM To: Dauer, Edward; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 mod for K-Pod level of difficulty Any one who can show pictures and advise me on the K3S mod would be a big help. I have had a stroke since building the K2 100, and every thing else Elecraft has ever made. And it took my dominant right side to boot. So I am debating whether to send it to Elecraft for the mod or if I am able to do it "left hand". Its $99 plus shipping to have Elecraft do it. I just bought the K3S and Kpod at the same time. I think they should have done the mod before they shipped it, since they had the rig apart already to install the many options I ordered. Maybe a phone call and or email to buyers in the future sales to let buyers know there is a mod that is nice to have. Just in case you want the pros at Elecraft to do it if you are not able. Regards, Leroy AB7CE -----Original Message----- From: Dauer, Edward Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 11:05 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 mod for K-Pod Just put in my order for a K-pod. Has anyone yet done the K3 mod that allows DC power through the data cable? How did it go? Tnx, Ted, KN1CBR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to lmarion at mt.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ron at elecraft.com From cautery at montac.com Wed Jun 29 23:04:24 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 22:04:24 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 mod for K-Pod level of difficulty In-Reply-To: <001101d1d27a$d13c5450$73b4fcf0$@biz> References: <637E86C0-067E-4334-8F25-526511BFE015@law.du.edu> <93E28F82B14D40A184C8064FE680886F@LeroyPC> <001101d1d27a$d13c5450$73b4fcf0$@biz> Message-ID: <2fe75b1b-a8db-25ce-472b-230ce3456116@montac.com> Apologize if this question has already been asked/answered. I have K3s #106xx, so I need the mod. Is there any downside to making the mod (other than risk). I mean, is there any chance of it affecting TX/RX quality, et al? Assuming not; just checking... 73, ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 6/29/2016 9:55 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > Any K3S later than serial number 10787 (kit) or 10801 (factory assembled) > can power the K-Pod without further modification. The change was made on all > subsequent units. > > So I'd hazard the guess that yours is "ready to roll" without any further > issues. > > Yes, the K-Pod Owner's manual advises owners of older K3s or K3 rigs that > Elecraft will do the mod for them. > > Optionally, you can simply power the K-Pod from the 12 VDC power connector > on the back panel of the K3. A suitable power cable is included with the > K-Pod. > > 73, Ron AC7AC > From jack.f6ajw at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 03:12:23 2016 From: jack.f6ajw at gmail.com (Jack.f6ajw) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 09:12:23 +0200 Subject: [Elecraft] FD & 6 meters In-Reply-To: <201606291710.u5THA6D2012423@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> References: <201606291710.u5THA6D2012423@mail41c28.carrierzone.com> Message-ID: <3654B6D2-B0FA-44EC-98C5-AA2580FA335F@gmail.com> IC-910H on 6 m !?!? Mine only covers 2 m to 23 cm ;-) 73's. Jacques F6AJW/IN93EK Envoy? de mon iPhone > Le 29 juin 2016 ? 19:10, Edward R Cole a ?crit : > > Dave, > > Still waiting on ARRL for my K1/W1AW card from your 2m eme operation during the Centennial Year. > > Regarding use of a long wire for 6m, I completely agree. Yes, you may be able to load such an antenna but it will hardly operate efficiently (multiple lobes in unknown directions). A friend uses a G5RV on 6m with his IC910H and does not get out enough radiation to produce a copyable signal at my QTH only 15 miles away (I am using either KX3 or K3+PR6 with 6-element yagi which can copy 6m eme signals). > > He might do better loading a dummy load? He has 6m yagi but has not yet installed it. Much better putting up a simple 6m dipole than trying to load an HF antenna. I built one with some 1/2-inch conduit and a board for center insulator which worked roving in one of the VHF Contests. > > I was away from home on FD so not able to monitor any of the bands (20m was hoping late at night when we got home). First year in many that I did not help my local club with FD. > > 73, Ed - KL7UW > http://www.kl7uw.com > "Kits made by KL7UW" > Dubus Mag business: > dubususa at gmail.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jack.f6ajw at gmail.com From turnbull at net1.ie Thu Jun 30 06:37:59 2016 From: turnbull at net1.ie (Doug Turnbull) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 10:37:59 -0000 Subject: [Elecraft] [KX2 KX3] KX2 v KX3 battery characteristics In-Reply-To: <2fe75b1b-a8db-25ce-472b-230ce3456116@montac.com> References: <637E86C0-067E-4334-8F25-526511BFE015@law.du.edu><93E28F82B14D40A184C8064FE680886F@LeroyPC><001101d1d27a$d13c5450$73b4fcf0$@biz> <2fe75b1b-a8db-25ce-472b-230ce3456116@montac.com> Message-ID: <7EF616982A714A44B1C9FC815A2B0C3D@DougTPC> Dear OMs and YLs, I have a couple of questions regarding the batteries used for KX2 and KX3. 1) What are the relative radio weights with batteries installed? 2)With standard NiMh 2600 ma-hr batteries in the KX3 and the LiPo battery in the KX2 both radios running at 5 Watts on CW with lets say a 80% listening to transmit time; what are the approximate battery life expectations between charges for new batteries? 3) Can the KX2 LiPo battery be used with the KX3? I saw the KX2 and its nifty case at Friedrichshafen and am afraid the KX1 has to go. This will leave me with a KX2 and KX3 and I rather expect the KX2 will be my main portable radio. Even in its carry case, I can place the KX2 inside the AlexLoop travel bag. My friend Hugh, EI9KF has just received his KX2 and marvels at so much radio in so small a package. A final supplementary question is there no need for a roofing filter in the KX2 or is it already built in. A bit of discussion regarding the difference in architecture of the two radios would be interesting. Enjoy your radios. 73 Doug EI2CN From kk7p4dsp at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 08:25:34 2016 From: kk7p4dsp at gmail.com (Lyle Johnson) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 05:25:34 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 mod for K-Pod level of difficulty In-Reply-To: <2fe75b1b-a8db-25ce-472b-230ce3456116@montac.com> References: <637E86C0-067E-4334-8F25-526511BFE015@law.du.edu> <93E28F82B14D40A184C8064FE680886F@LeroyPC> <001101d1d27a$d13c5450$73b4fcf0$@biz> <2fe75b1b-a8db-25ce-472b-230ce3456116@montac.com> Message-ID: <44ec3cdb-98b7-452a-4eef-f2a94b1b71d5@gmail.com> The mod simply allows more current to be drawn from an otherwise unused pin on an otherwise unused connector while still affording protection to the power supply within the radio (protection from a short on the connector pin). 73, Lyle KK7P On 6/29/16 8:04 PM, Clay Autery wrote: > Apologize if this question has already been asked/answered. > > I have K3s #106xx, so I need the mod. > > Is there any downside to making the mod (other than risk). I mean, is > there any chance of it affecting TX/RX quality, et al? > Assuming not; just checking... > > 73, > > ______________________ > Clay Autery, KY5G > MONTAC Enterprises > (318) 518-1389 > > On 6/29/2016 9:55 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: >> Any K3S later than serial number 10787 (kit) or 10801 (factory assembled) >> can power the K-Pod without further modification. The change was made on all >> subsequent units. >> >> So I'd hazard the guess that yours is "ready to roll" without any further >> issues. >> >> Yes, the K-Pod Owner's manual advises owners of older K3s or K3 rigs that >> Elecraft will do the mod for them. >> >> Optionally, you can simply power the K-Pod from the 12 VDC power connector >> on the back panel of the K3. A suitable power cable is included with the >> K-Pod. >> >> 73, Ron AC7AC >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kk7p4dsp at gmail.com From n3ikq at yahoo.com Thu Jun 30 10:10:39 2016 From: n3ikq at yahoo.com (rick jones) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 14:10:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Roofing Filter Question References: <1416865404.4134092.1467295839020.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1416865404.4134092.1467295839020.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I understand that the DSP is after the roofing filters but I don't understand why one can dial in a bandwidth wider then the installed roofing filter. When I do so, am I hearing the skirts of the filter and the attenuated signals outside of the filter's passband as well? Thank you.? From lists at subich.com Thu Jun 30 10:23:05 2016 From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 10:23:05 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Roofing Filter Question In-Reply-To: <1416865404.4134092.1467295839020.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1416865404.4134092.1467295839020.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1416865404.4134092.1467295839020.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1b021a81-a6ab-1f62-66e0-406d9e97e453@subich.com> If one sets a DSP bandwidth greater than the wisest installed roofing filter the bandwidth will be determined strictly by the characteristics of the roofing filter and the lowpass filter (4.2 KHz) in the audio chain. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 6/30/2016 10:10 AM, rick jones via Elecraft wrote: > I understand that the DSP is after the roofing filters but I don't understand why one can dial in a bandwidth wider then the installed roofing filter. When I do so, am I hearing the skirts of the filter and the attenuated signals outside of the filter's passband as well? Thank you. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to lists at subich.com > From n5lz at comcast.net Thu Jun 30 10:44:54 2016 From: n5lz at comcast.net (Don Butler) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 08:44:54 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 vs KX2 vs KX3? from someone who owns one of each.. Message-ID: <000c01d1d2dd$f771f0e0$e655d2a0$@comcast.net> In addition to a few K3s, I also own a KX1, KX2, and KX3 and believe that I am in a position where I can make a few unbiased comparisons between the ?KX? group. EI2CN asked today about weight comparisons between the three radios so I thought I would provide that info and add just a couple of my own thoughts about the three different radios. My KX1 (4 band and tuner) with paddle and 6 lithium batteries weighs 14.6 oz. My KX2 (tuner and clock) with battery pack but without paddle weighs 20 oz. The battery pack alone weighs 5 ? oz. Adding the KXPD3 (since the KXPD2 is still back ordered) adds about 1 oz to make the total package 21 oz. My KX3 (with all options and also with the 3rd party sidekick panels) and with 8 NIMH batteries, charger and KXPD3 weighs 35 oz. ?. The NIMH batteries make up about 8 oz of that total. Since I own and have used all three radios, and really have no reason for bias, I thought I would share my thoughts relative to comparisons. For clarification these are MY opinions only ? the way I feel about the three radios as an owner of each? and of course this is not an attempt to be any kind of in depth review or comparison?. I?m going to focus on the main encoder dial only. Here goes: To me, the KX2 has rendered the KX1 obsolete .... the KX2 has virtually every capability of the KX1 but also has much much more ? is about the same size and weighs just 7 oz more. It?s the perfect radio for travelling light or backpacking for portable QRP operation. I prefer the KX3 over the KX2 .... mainly because of the main tuning knob ?. It was apparently necessary to use a smaller encoder on the KX2 to keep the overall package small (and that has been accomplished). But to me it came at a significant price because it is really rather cumbersome to slowly tune the bands with the KX2 main dial when compared to doing so with the very nice encoder on the KX3. To me the main dial on the KX2 has the same feel as the dial on the KX1 ?.. while the main dial on the KX3 is more like that on the K3 ?? the KX3 wins on my scorecard on that comparison hands down, and it therefore remains my choice for most operating situations. There are workaround alternatives to make tuning easier on the KX2 .. for example it?s actually easier to tune up and down the bands using the MH3 up/down buttons than doing so with the main tuning knob ?. But who really wants to tune a radio with mic buttons? ?. Not me! Coarse tuning with the VFO B knob is the best option in my hands? and I have mine set for 0.5 khz on CW and 2.5 khz on SSB, which allows me to scan the band with coarse tuning and tweak with the main dial when I find a signal of interest. I will choose the KX3 for ?in shack? use (but after the K3 of course) and for any portable use when I want to spend significant time with the radio and log lots of QSOs. ( FYI, our Field Day group operated 1A here in Utah using my KX3/KXPA100 at 100 watts , deep cycle battery, CrankIR and center fed zepp ? and, with lots of off time and sleeping through the night we still managed to log over 600 CW qsos). I will pick the KX2 for portable QRP operation when I want to travel light and do not plan to spend hours on the air. I doubt that I will be using the KX1 in the future ?. but it?s still a keeper as far as I?m concerned ? Just one man?s opinions ? 73, Don, N5LZ From dan.boardman at shreditfast.com Thu Jun 30 10:57:36 2016 From: dan.boardman at shreditfast.com (Dan Boardman) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 14:57:36 +0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 and KX3 Accessory Suggestion In-Reply-To: <000c01d1d2dd$f771f0e0$e655d2a0$@comcast.net> References: <000c01d1d2dd$f771f0e0$e655d2a0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <12B13D2C29AFFE44B60C83DC6B79921F66F5297B@MBX023-W1-CA-4.exch023.domain.local> Perhaps a smallish ergonomic hand held up-down tuning/band changing thumb operated tuning button for the KX2 and/or KX3? Dan - NB1C From n5lz at comcast.net Thu Jun 30 11:08:12 2016 From: n5lz at comcast.net (Don Butler) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 09:08:12 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 and KX3 Accessory Suggestion In-Reply-To: <12B13D2C29AFFE44B60C83DC6B79921F66F5297B@MBX023-W1-CA-4.exch023.domain.local> References: <000c01d1d2dd$f771f0e0$e655d2a0$@comcast.net> <12B13D2C29AFFE44B60C83DC6B79921F66F5297B@MBX023-W1-CA-4.exch023.domain.local> Message-ID: <000001d1d2e1$38b2c6d0$aa185470$@comcast.net> Sounds like an MH3? -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dan Boardman Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:58 AM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 and KX3 Accessory Suggestion Perhaps a smallish ergonomic hand held up-down tuning/band changing thumb operated tuning button for the KX2 and/or KX3? Dan - NB1C ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n5lz at comcast.net From w7ox at socal.rr.com Thu Jun 30 11:20:33 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 08:20:33 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 vs KX2 vs KX3? from someone who owns one of each.. In-Reply-To: <000c01d1d2dd$f771f0e0$e655d2a0$@comcast.net> References: <000c01d1d2dd$f771f0e0$e655d2a0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: Don, Re "it is really rather cumbersome to slowly tune the bands with the KX2 main dial ... ": I use the VFO B knob as a coarse VFO A tuner, set at 0.5 kHZ for CW and 1.0 kHz for SSB. Works great! Phil W7OX On 6/30/16 7:44 AM, Don Butler wrote: > In addition to a few K3s, I also own a KX1, KX2, and KX3 and believe that I am in a position where I can make a few unbiased comparisons between the ?KX? group. EI2CN asked today about weight comparisons between the three radios so I thought I would provide that info and add just a couple of my own thoughts about the three different radios. > > My KX1 (4 band and tuner) with paddle and 6 lithium batteries weighs 14.6 oz. > > My KX2 (tuner and clock) with battery pack but without paddle weighs 20 oz. The battery pack alone weighs 5 ? oz. Adding the KXPD3 (since the KXPD2 is still back ordered) adds about 1 oz to make the total package 21 oz. > > My KX3 (with all options and also with the 3rd party sidekick panels) and with 8 NIMH batteries, charger and KXPD3 weighs 35 oz. ?. The NIMH batteries make up about 8 oz of that total. > > Since I own and have used all three radios, and really have no reason for bias, I thought I would share my thoughts relative to comparisons. For clarification these are MY opinions only ? the way I feel about the three radios as an owner of each? and of course this is not an attempt to be any kind of in depth review or comparison?. I?m going to focus on the main encoder dial only. > > Here goes: > > To me, the KX2 has rendered the KX1 obsolete .... the KX2 has virtually every capability of the KX1 but also has much much more ? is about the same size and weighs just 7 oz more. It?s the perfect radio for travelling light or backpacking for portable QRP operation. > > I prefer the KX3 over the KX2 .... mainly because of the main tuning knob ?. It was apparently necessary to use a smaller encoder on the KX2 to keep the overall package small (and that has been accomplished). But to me it came at a significant price because it is really rather cumbersome to slowly tune the bands with the KX2 main dial when compared to doing so with the very nice encoder on the KX3. To me the main dial on the KX2 has the same feel as the dial on the KX1 ?.. while the main dial on the KX3 is more like that on the K3 ?? the KX3 wins on my scorecard on that comparison hands down, and it therefore remains my choice for most operating situations. > > There are workaround alternatives to make tuning easier on the KX2 .. for example it?s actually easier to tune up and down the bands using the MH3 up/down buttons than doing so with the main tuning knob ?. But who really wants to tune a radio with mic buttons? ?. Not me! Coarse tuning with the VFO B knob is the best option in my hands? and I have mine set for 0.5 khz on CW and 2.5 khz on SSB, which allows me to scan the band with coarse tuning and tweak with the main dial when I find a signal of interest. > > I will choose the KX3 for ?in shack? use (but after the K3 of course) and for any portable use when I want to spend significant time with the radio and log lots of QSOs. ( FYI, our Field Day group operated 1A here in Utah using my KX3/KXPA100 at 100 watts , deep cycle battery, CrankIR and center fed zepp ? and, with lots of off time and sleeping through the night we still managed to log over 600 CW qsos). I will pick the KX2 for portable QRP operation when I want to travel light and do not plan to spend hours on the air. I doubt that I will be using the KX1 in the future ?. but it?s still a keeper as far as I?m concerned ? > > Just one man?s opinions ? > > 73, > Don, N5LZ From n5lz at comcast.net Thu Jun 30 11:32:43 2016 From: n5lz at comcast.net (Don Butler) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 09:32:43 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 vs KX2 vs KX3? from someone who owns one of each.. In-Reply-To: References: <000c01d1d2dd$f771f0e0$e655d2a0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000301d1d2e4$a596b970$f0c42c50$@comcast.net> Phil if you had read down to the next paragraph you would have seen that I wrote that I do exactly the same thing using the VFO B knob for coarse tuning ? except I prefer to use 2.5 khz for SSb. From: Phil Wheeler [mailto:w7ox at socal.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 9:21 AM To: Don Butler; 'Doug Turnbull'; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX1 vs KX2 vs KX3? from someone who owns one of each.. Don, Re "it is really rather cumbersome to slowly tune the bands with the KX2 main dial ... ": I use the VFO B knob as a coarse VFO A tuner, set at 0.5 kHZ for CW and 1.0 kHz for SSB. Works great! Phil W7OX On 6/30/16 7:44 AM, Don Butler wrote: In addition to a few K3s, I also own a KX1, KX2, and KX3 and believe that I am in a position where I can make a few unbiased comparisons between the ?KX? group. EI2CN asked today about weight comparisons between the three radios so I thought I would provide that info and add just a couple of my own thoughts about the three different radios. My KX1 (4 band and tuner) with paddle and 6 lithium batteries weighs 14.6 oz. My KX2 (tuner and clock) with battery pack but without paddle weighs 20 oz. The battery pack alone weighs 5 ? oz. Adding the KXPD3 (since the KXPD2 is still back ordered) adds about 1 oz to make the total package 21 oz. My KX3 (with all options and also with the 3rd party sidekick panels) and with 8 NIMH batteries, charger and KXPD3 weighs 35 oz. ?. The NIMH batteries make up about 8 oz of that total. Since I own and have used all three radios, and really have no reason for bias, I thought I would share my thoughts relative to comparisons. For clarification these are MY opinions only ? the way I feel about the three radios as an owner of each? and of course this is not an attempt to be any kind of in depth review or comparison?. I?m going to focus on the main encoder dial only. Here goes: To me, the KX2 has rendered the KX1 obsolete .... the KX2 has virtually every capability of the KX1 but also has much much more ? is about the same size and weighs just 7 oz more. It?s the perfect radio for travelling light or backpacking for portable QRP operation. I prefer the KX3 over the KX2 .... mainly because of the main tuning knob ?. It was apparently necessary to use a smaller encoder on the KX2 to keep the overall package small (and that has been accomplished). But to me it came at a significant price because it is really rather cumbersome to slowly tune the bands with the KX2 main dial when compared to doing so with the very nice encoder on the KX3. To me the main dial on the KX2 has the same feel as the dial on the KX1 ?.. while the main dial on the KX3 is more like that on the K3 ?? the KX3 wins on my scorecard on that comparison hands down, and it therefore remains my choice for most operating situations. There are workaround alternatives to make tuning easier on the KX2 .. for example it?s actually easier to tune up and down the bands using the MH3 up/down buttons than doing so with the main tuning knob ?. But who really wants to tune a radio with mic buttons? ?. Not me! Coarse tuning with the VFO B knob is the best option in my hands? and I have mine set for 0.5 khz on CW and 2.5 khz on SSB, which allows me to scan the band with coarse tuning and tweak with the main dial when I find a signal of interest. I will choose the KX3 for ?in shack? use (but after the K3 of course) and for any portable use when I want to spend significant time with the radio and log lots of QSOs. ( FYI, our Field Day group operated 1A here in Utah using my KX3/KXPA100 at 100 watts , deep cycle battery, CrankIR and center fed zepp ? and, with lots of off time and sleeping through the night we still managed to log over 600 CW qsos). I will pick the KX2 for portable QRP operation when I want to travel light and do not plan to spend hours on the air. I doubt that I will be using the KX1 in the future ?. but it?s still a keeper as far as I?m concerned J Just one man?s opinions ? 73, Don, N5LZ From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Thu Jun 30 12:28:15 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 09:28:15 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: Bioenno's July Promotion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This sale offers good discounts on some fine backpacking products from a ham-friendly company. 73, Jim K9YC -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Bioenno's July Promotion Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 15:29:57 +0000 From: Bioenno Power Reply-To: Bioenno Power To: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Bioenno's July Promotion Share photos of how you use our products on our Facebook page! 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Any help with this vexing problem is much appreciated.Bill, Ai4pf -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-WSPR-2-ver-1-6-tp7619451.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From rodenkirch_llc at msn.com Thu Jun 30 13:31:41 2016 From: rodenkirch_llc at msn.com (Jim Rodenkirch) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 10:31:41 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 VFO temperature compensation procedure Message-ID: <1467307901869-7619452.post@n2.nabble.com> I was perusing the KX3 order page fora friend but don't see the VFO compensation offered as an "extra": I paid to have it done back at the factory when I ordered my KX3 back in November of 2015. Is it done now as part of the basic assembled KX3 purchase? Tnx, in advance, for your reply....72 de Jim R. K9JWV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-VFO-temperature-compensation-procedure-tp7619452.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From turnbull at net1.ie Thu Jun 30 14:43:15 2016 From: turnbull at net1.ie (Doug Turnbull) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 18:43:15 -0000 Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 vs KX2 vs KX3? from someone who owns one of each.. In-Reply-To: <000c01d1d2dd$f771f0e0$e655d2a0$@comcast.net> References: <000c01d1d2dd$f771f0e0$e655d2a0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7240B90EA9434AD7BBA144FF523AF05C@DougTPC> Don, Thank you for this as it is most informative. Have you any rough idea as to battery life comparison for KX2 and KX3 - I realize this is a difficult question. Thank you once again. 73 Doug EI2CN -----Original Message----- From: Don Butler [mailto:n5lz at comcast.net] Sent: 30 June 2016 14:45 To: 'Doug Turnbull'; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: KX1 vs KX2 vs KX3? from someone who owns one of each.. In addition to a few K3s, I also own a KX1, KX2, and KX3 and believe that I am in a position where I can make a few unbiased comparisons between the ?KX? group. EI2CN asked today about weight comparisons between the three radios so I thought I would provide that info and add just a couple of my own thoughts about the three different radios. My KX1 (4 band and tuner) with paddle and 6 lithium batteries weighs 14.6 oz. My KX2 (tuner and clock) with battery pack but without paddle weighs 20 oz. The battery pack alone weighs 5 ? oz. Adding the KXPD3 (since the KXPD2 is still back ordered) adds about 1 oz to make the total package 21 oz. My KX3 (with all options and also with the 3rd party sidekick panels) and with 8 NIMH batteries, charger and KXPD3 weighs 35 oz. . The NIMH batteries make up about 8 oz of that total. Since I own and have used all three radios, and really have no reason for bias, I thought I would share my thoughts relative to comparisons. For clarification these are MY opinions only the way I feel about the three radios as an owner of each and of course this is not an attempt to be any kind of in depth review or comparison . I?m going to focus on the main encoder dial only. Here goes: To me, the KX2 has rendered the KX1 obsolete .... the KX2 has virtually every capability of the KX1 but also has much much more is about the same size and weighs just 7 oz more. It?s the perfect radio for travelling light or backpacking for portable QRP operation. I prefer the KX3 over the KX2 .... mainly because of the main tuning knob . It was apparently necessary to use a smaller encoder on the KX2 to keep the overall package small (and that has been accomplished). But to me it came at a significant price because it is really rather cumbersome to slowly tune the bands with the KX2 main dial when compared to doing so with the very nice encoder on the KX3. To me the main dial on the KX2 has the same feel as the dial on the KX1 .. while the main dial on the KX3 is more like that on the K3 the KX3 wins on my scorecard on that comparison hands down, and it therefore remains my choice for most operating situations. There are workaround alternatives to make tuning easier on the KX2 .. for example it?s actually easier to tune up and down the bands using the MH3 up/down buttons than doing so with the main tuning knob . But who really wants to tune a radio with mic buttons? . Not me! Coarse tuning with the VFO B knob is the best option in my hands and I have mine set for 0.5 khz on CW and 2.5 khz on SSB, which allows me to scan the band with coarse tuning and tweak with the main dial when I find a signal of interest. I will choose the KX3 for ?in shack? use (but after the K3 of course) and for any portable use when I want to spend significant time with the radio and log lots of QSOs. ( FYI, our Field Day group operated 1A here in Utah using my KX3/KXPA100 at 100 watts , deep cycle battery, CrankIR and center fed zepp and, with lots of off time and sleeping through the night we still managed to log over 600 CW qsos). I will pick the KX2 for portable QRP operation when I want to travel light and do not plan to spend hours on the air. I doubt that I will be using the KX1 in the future . but it?s still a keeper as far as I?m concerned ? Just one man?s opinions 73, Don, N5LZ From n5lz at comcast.net Thu Jun 30 14:58:44 2016 From: n5lz at comcast.net (Don Butler) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 12:58:44 -0600 Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 vs KX2 vs KX3? from someone who owns one of each.. In-Reply-To: <7240B90EA9434AD7BBA144FF523AF05C@DougTPC> References: <000c01d1d2dd$f771f0e0$e655d2a0$@comcast.net> <7240B90EA9434AD7BBA144FF523AF05C@DougTPC> Message-ID: Doug I have just run the KX2 battery pack through a couple partial recharge cycles thus far so cannot really comment yet. I did order a spare but it was back ordered along with the KXPD2. The KX2 does have a nifty Amp Hour monitor which can be used for various things like comparing battery packs ? documenting the number of amp hours for various tasks, etc. The KX3 does not have that feature? but it will be a great way to provide the info you?re looking for .. at least on the KX2. Don, N5LZ Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Doug Turnbull From beford at myfairpoint.net Thu Jun 30 15:03:01 2016 From: beford at myfairpoint.net (Bruce Beford) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 15:03:01 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 and KX3 Accessory Suggestion Message-ID: <75AC3C3E2EBD43049A0ED285BD76837A@FamilyPC> Own a soldering iron? Make one yourself. Easy, a LOT cheaper than Elecraft could sell it to you for, AND you get the satisfaction of custom making something that does what YOU want it to do... Have fun! -Bruce, N!RX > Perhaps a smallish ergonomic hand held up-down tuning/band changing thumb operated tuning button for the KX2 and/or KX3? > Dan - NB1C From Gary at ka1j.com Thu Jun 30 15:15:07 2016 From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 15:15:07 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 mod for K-Pod level of difficulty In-Reply-To: <001101d1d27a$d13c5450$73b4fcf0$@biz> References: <637E86C0-067E-4334-8F25-526511BFE015@law.du.edu>, <93E28F82B14D40A184C8064FE680886F@LeroyPC>, <001101d1d27a$d13c5450$73b4fcf0$@biz> Message-ID: <57756FBB.19975.4546AD2@Gary.ka1j.com> For me the hassle is I power the P3 from the K3s. Unfortunately, my K3s serial # is 10622, so I need to do the mod or have the extra wires on my desk. It would be nice if a 9V battery could be placed inside as a powering option. 73, Gary KA1J > Any K3S later than serial number 10787 (kit) or 10801 (factory assembled) > can power the K-Pod without further modification. The change was made on all > subsequent units. > > So I'd hazard the guess that yours is "ready to roll" without any further > issues. > > Yes, the K-Pod Owner's manual advises owners of older K3s or K3 rigs that > Elecraft will do the mod for them. > > Optionally, you can simply power the K-Pod from the 12 VDC power connector > on the back panel of the K3. A suitable power cable is included with the > K-Pod. > > 73, Ron AC7AC From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Thu Jun 30 15:21:19 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 12:21:19 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Battery Life KX2 vs KX3, and Maximizing Battery Life In-Reply-To: <7240B90EA9434AD7BBA144FF523AF05C@DougTPC> References: <000c01d1d2dd$f771f0e0$e655d2a0$@comcast.net> <7240B90EA9434AD7BBA144FF523AF05C@DougTPC> Message-ID: On Thu,6/30/2016 11:43 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote: > Have you any rough idea as to battery life comparison for KX2 and KX3 - I realize this is a difficult question. Looking at the specs, current draw for both TX and RX appear to be the same for both rigs, so I would expect battery life to be essentially the same for equal TX power and how much you TX. Some thoughts on maximizing battery life. (I know Doug knows this, but this is for others). First, S&P results in less TX time. Second, keep transmissions short. When calling someone, don't send his call, just send yours once or twice. If no response, call again. Third, when calling CQ, keep CQs short. For general operation, never do more than a 4x2 or 4x3 (that is, 4 CQs and sign your call two or three times). I NEVER answer a loooooong CQ. :) Fourth, NEVER sign /QRP. It wastes time, and burns battery. You're already weak, use your battery and propagation to send the important stuff, like your call, QTH, and contest exchange if any. And during a contest, few contesters are going answer a station signing /QRP. Fifth, NEVER send again anything that the other station has copied correctly. For example, if he has your call right, don't send it again (except at the end of a long QSO). Sixth, if you're mountain-topping or something similar, don't call CQ when you finish a QSO, just sign your call (and the summit ID if there is one) and see if anyone calls you. If no calls, THEN call CQ. 73, Jim K9YC From n7cqr at arrl.net Thu Jun 30 15:31:33 2016 From: n7cqr at arrl.net (Dan Presley) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 12:31:33 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day Fun Killers In-Reply-To: <9b01490e-2ec5-429b-7d3b-01c97f969abb@coho.net> References: <12AD1AF47D1A421883AB3B6DA71C7234@LAPTOPEPVQLR1I> <000001d1d1b2$f4fed3e0$defc7ba0$@biz> <9b01490e-2ec5-429b-7d3b-01c97f969abb@coho.net> Message-ID: Yes-I was just down the road from you Kevin at Stub Stewart state park. Set up with the KX2 and the Alexloop for a minimalist station. I only had a short time hand conditions were't very good, but I managed to work a few guys around the country mostly on 20. Only signal on 15 was a KH6 but nabbed him easy with 5 W. The KX2 is perfect for this type of operation. Also, as you said weather was perfect :) Dan Presley N7CQR n7cqr at arrl.net On Jun 28, 2016, at 8:31 PM, kevinr at coho.net wrote: > In the Coast Range on Sunday it rose to a scorching 77 degrees! > > FD in the PNW :) > > 73, > > Kevin. KD5ONS > > > On 6/28/2016 8:04 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: >> Come to the Pacific Northwest coast. High temps this time of the year are >> generally in the 60's, never above 70, and no bugs. >> >> 73, Ron AC7AC >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of w7aqk >> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 7:59 AM >> To: Elecraft Reflector >> Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day Fun Killers >> >> Hi All, >> >> I have always considered Field Day to be the most enjoyable "event" of the >> year. Unfortunately, this year I was unable to participate "in the field" >> as I am busy getting ready for a long trip. Otherwise, I would have been >> out there with the rest of you. >> >> Long ago I determined that there were two things that could ruin Field Day >> for me--excessive heat and bugs (no, not the Vibroplex kind!). If I can't >> avoid both, I usually don't go! When I was living in "The South", both >> could be a problem. Here in the desert, it's the heat issue that I mainly >> have to deal with. Fortunately, there is a good choice of "high ground" >> nearby, so that problem is solvable. Since there typically isn't a lot of >> water nearby, the bug problem is usually minimized as well. >> >> My hat is most definitely off to those of you who can endure either or both >> of my "Field Day Fun Killers". Most of you who do that are probably east of >> the Rockies. I remember Field Days where the seemingly most important >> pieces of equipment were fans! The problem is that most of the time all >> those did was blow hot air around! High temperatures plus high humidity is >> a tough combination to combat. It doesn't take long before you wish you >> could take a shower--but you probably can't! It even makes grabbing a >> little shut eye difficult. >> >> Fighting the bug problem can be a bit easier, but takes some advance >> planning. My Field Day kit includes a large canopy of mosquito netting that >> can be suspended from most anything overhead, like a tree branch. A >> tent-like canopy with netting works too, but isn't always as convenient to >> locate. Fully enclosed tents tend to trap heat, so those don't always work >> well either. >> >> Planning for Field Day can be a year long event, particularly for larger >> groups. However, even the smaller operations need to start making a list >> early! Your "fun killer" list may not be the same as mine, but whatever it >> includes, you should consider early on how to deal with it. Starting the >> process now, while the problems are fresh in your mind, is probably one of >> the best things you can do. >> >> I've been reading a lot of complaints about high heat in the reports that >> have been posted so far. That's always a problem, but it just seems like it >> was more so this year. Even Wayne Burdick commented about some very high >> temperatures in his area, and I think this may be a sign of the times. I'm >> getting too old to have that kind of dedication. Here in my area it was >> well into the 100's down low, but in the 70's higher up. I will always opt >> for "up", even if I have to drive a bit further. Besides, there are trees >> up there! >> >> Again, I greatly admire the dedication that many (if not most) of you gave >> to this year's effort. However, I have to wonder if participating in those >> 5A/6A or higher groups, who's location choices are perhaps much more >> limited, is really worth it. Have you considered a 1A, or 2A operation in a >> much more hospitable location? The food may not be quite as good, but the >> experience can be well worth it! I know, it's often a "club thing", and >> that may well overrule all other concerns. However, you still might want to >> try it at least once--you might like it! For many years now I've operated >> strictly QRP CW in the field, and never had more fun! >> >> 73, >> >> Dave W7AQK >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message >> delivered to ron at elecraft.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to kevinr at coho.net >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n7cqr at arrl.net From btippett at alum.mit.edu Thu Jun 30 15:32:56 2016 From: btippett at alum.mit.edu (Bill W4ZV) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 12:32:56 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] K3 mod for K-Pod In-Reply-To: <637E86C0-067E-4334-8F25-526511BFE015@law.du.edu> References: <637E86C0-067E-4334-8F25-526511BFE015@law.du.edu> Message-ID: <1467315176883-7619458.post@n2.nabble.com> Edward A. Dauer wrote > Just put in my order for a K-pod. Has anyone yet done the K3 mod that > allows DC power through the data cable? How did it go? > > Tnx, > > Ted, KN1CBR It's relatively easy Ted. You don't even need to remove the case covers. You remove the front panel assembly by removing 3 screws on top, 2 screws on bottom and then prying the FP assembly apart with a screwdriver in two slots on the bottom. R82 is visible at the lower left area of the reverse side of the FP module. You solder either a 0603 SMD or 1/8 W 6.8 ohm leaded resistor across R82 (i.e. in parallel with the existing 10k). If you're not accustomed to SMD, the 0603 type is not a good one to learn on because it's so small. Elecraft supplies both resistors in the kit. 73, Bill W4ZV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-mod-for-K-Pod-tp7619427p7619458.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From turnbull at net1.ie Thu Jun 30 15:37:40 2016 From: turnbull at net1.ie (Doug Turnbull) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 19:37:40 -0000 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 mod for K-Pod level of difficulty In-Reply-To: <57756FBB.19975.4546AD2@Gary.ka1j.com> References: <637E86C0-067E-4334-8F25-526511BFE015@law.du.edu>, <93E28F82B14D40A184C8064FE680886F@LeroyPC>, <001101d1d27a$d13c5450$73b4fcf0$@biz> <57756FBB.19975.4546AD2@Gary.ka1j.com> Message-ID: <5E82F53E341046378473250138193033@DougTPC> Hello Gary, I am waiting for my pod to use with a K3. Age means that sometimes my hands tremble a bit - life is still good. My plan is to get a forty year old youngster to do the soldering if it looks at all questionable to me. This is a shame as before becoming an EE I was a technician and as a youngster built my transmitters from scratch. Well the grass still looks green to me. It is going to be a delight to finally have the Pod as I missed it since changing to the K3 from Orion II seven years or so ago. The job should not take but a few minutes so it should be possible for you to find a friend in W1 land to do the necessary for you. We help each other in this hobby. Enjoy your radio. 73 Doug EI2CN -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary Smith Sent: 30 June 2016 19:15 To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 mod for K-Pod level of difficulty For me the hassle is I power the P3 from the K3s. Unfortunately, my K3s serial # is 10622, so I need to do the mod or have the extra wires on my desk. It would be nice if a 9V battery could be placed inside as a powering option. 73, Gary KA1J > Any K3S later than serial number 10787 (kit) or 10801 (factory assembled) > can power the K-Pod without further modification. The change was made on all > subsequent units. > > So I'd hazard the guess that yours is "ready to roll" without any further > issues. > > Yes, the K-Pod Owner's manual advises owners of older K3s or K3 rigs that > Elecraft will do the mod for them. > > Optionally, you can simply power the K-Pod from the 12 VDC power connector > on the back panel of the K3. A suitable power cable is included with the > K-Pod. > > 73, Ron AC7AC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to turnbull at net1.ie From ka9p at aol.com Thu Jun 30 15:42:47 2016 From: ka9p at aol.com (Scott Mcdonald) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 14:42:47 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 vs KX2 vs KX3? from someone who owns one of each.. In-Reply-To: <7240B90EA9434AD7BBA144FF523AF05C@DougTPC> References: <000c01d1d2dd$f771f0e0$e655d2a0$@comcast.net> <7240B90EA9434AD7BBA144FF523AF05C@DougTPC> Message-ID: I'd be curious to know if the kx2 ends up being a kx1 slayer. I'll admit to forlornly looking at mine from time to time since the kx2 came out, but then she reminds me that she was the last in a long line of trail radios I built, and a darn good one, and I'm guilted into keeping her. Tho she may need to make room for a kx2 soon. If only she could do 17. Scott ka9p Make something good happen! > On Jun 30, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Doug Turnbull wrote: > > Don, > Thank you for this as it is most informative. Have you any rough idea > as to battery life comparison for KX2 and KX3 - I realize this is a > difficult question. Thank you once again. > > 73 Doug EI2CN > > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Butler [mailto:n5lz at comcast.net] > Sent: 30 June 2016 14:45 > To: 'Doug Turnbull'; elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: KX1 vs KX2 vs KX3? from someone who owns one of each.. > > In addition to a few K3s, I also own a KX1, KX2, and KX3 and believe that I > am in a position where I can make a few unbiased comparisons between the > ?KX? group. EI2CN asked today about weight comparisons between the three > radios so I thought I would provide that info and add just a couple of my > own thoughts about the three different radios. > > My KX1 (4 band and tuner) with paddle and 6 lithium batteries weighs 14.6 > oz. > > My KX2 (tuner and clock) with battery pack but without paddle weighs 20 oz. > The battery pack alone weighs 5 ? oz. Adding the KXPD3 (since the KXPD2 is > still back ordered) adds about 1 oz to make the total package 21 oz. > > My KX3 (with all options and also with the 3rd party sidekick panels) and > with 8 NIMH batteries, charger and KXPD3 weighs 35 oz. ?. The NIMH > batteries make up about 8 oz of that total. > > Since I own and have used all three radios, and really have no reason for > bias, I thought I would share my thoughts relative to comparisons. For > clarification these are MY opinions only ? the way I feel about the three > radios as an owner of each? and of course this is not an attempt to be any > kind of in depth review or comparison?. I?m going to focus on the main > encoder dial only. > > Here goes: > > To me, the KX2 has rendered the KX1 obsolete .... the KX2 has virtually > every capability of the KX1 but also has much much more ? is about the same > size and weighs just 7 oz more. It?s the perfect radio for travelling light > or backpacking for portable QRP operation. > > I prefer the KX3 over the KX2 .... mainly because of the main tuning knob > ?. It was apparently necessary to use a smaller encoder on the KX2 to keep > the overall package small (and that has been accomplished). But to me it > came at a significant price because it is really rather cumbersome to slowly > tune the bands with the KX2 main dial when compared to doing so with the > very nice encoder on the KX3. To me the main dial on the KX2 has the same > feel as the dial on the KX1 ?.. while the main dial on the KX3 is more like > that on the K3 ?? the KX3 wins on my scorecard on that comparison hands > down, and it therefore remains my choice for most operating situations. > > There are workaround alternatives to make tuning easier on the KX2 .. for > example it?s actually easier to tune up and down the bands using the MH3 > up/down buttons than doing so with the main tuning knob ?. But who really > wants to tune a radio with mic buttons? ?. Not me! Coarse tuning with the > VFO B knob is the best option in my hands? and I have mine set for 0.5 khz > on CW and 2.5 khz on SSB, which allows me to scan the band with coarse > tuning and tweak with the main dial when I find a signal of interest. > > I will choose the KX3 for ?in shack? use (but after the K3 of course) and > for any portable use when I want to spend significant time with the radio > and log lots of QSOs. ( FYI, our Field Day group operated 1A here in Utah > using my KX3/KXPA100 at 100 watts , deep cycle battery, CrankIR and center > fed zepp ? and, with lots of off time and sleeping through the night we > still managed to log over 600 CW qsos). I will pick the KX2 for portable > QRP operation when I want to travel light and do not plan to spend hours on > the air. I doubt that I will be using the KX1 in the future ?. but it?s > still a keeper as far as I?m concerned ? > > Just one man?s opinions ? > > 73, > Don, N5LZ > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ka9p at aol.com From w7ox at socal.rr.com Thu Jun 30 15:59:36 2016 From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 12:59:36 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 and KX3 Accessory Suggestion In-Reply-To: <000001d1d2e1$38b2c6d0$aa185470$@comcast.net> References: <000c01d1d2dd$f771f0e0$e655d2a0$@comcast.net> <12B13D2C29AFFE44B60C83DC6B79921F66F5297B@MBX023-W1-CA-4.exch023.domain.local> <000001d1d2e1$38b2c6d0$aa185470$@comcast.net> Message-ID: Yes, MH3 is a fine mic, *and* has the right connector for the KX2/3! Few other mics have that 4-conductor plug. Phil W7OX On 6/30/16 8:08 AM, Don Butler wrote: > Sounds like an MH3? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dan > Boardman > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:58 AM > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 and KX3 Accessory Suggestion > > Perhaps a smallish ergonomic hand held up-down tuning/band changing thumb > operated tuning button for the KX2 and/or KX3? > > > Dan - NB1C From ka0iqt at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 16:04:00 2016 From: ka0iqt at gmail.com (Jim Johns) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 15:04:00 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day Fun Killers In-Reply-To: <12AD1AF47D1A421883AB3B6DA71C7234@LAPTOPEPVQLR1I> References: <12AD1AF47D1A421883AB3B6DA71C7234@LAPTOPEPVQLR1I> Message-ID: If you come to North Texas, be prepared for high temperatures and lately high humidity. Oh, and don't forget a black light to illuminate all the bark scorpions we have here too. Jim KA0IQT On Jun 28, 2016 9:59 AM, "w7aqk" wrote: > Hi All, > > I have always considered Field Day to be the most enjoyable "event" of the > year. Unfortunately, this year I was unable to participate "in the field" > as I am busy getting ready for a long trip. Otherwise, I would have been > out there with the rest of you. > > Long ago I determined that there were two things that could ruin Field Day > for me--excessive heat and bugs (no, not the Vibroplex kind!). If I can't > avoid both, I usually don't go! When I was living in "The South", both > could be a problem. Here in the desert, it's the heat issue that I mainly > have to deal with. Fortunately, there is a good choice of "high ground" > nearby, so that problem is solvable. Since there typically isn't a lot of > water nearby, the bug problem is usually minimized as well. > > My hat is most definitely off to those of you who can endure either or > both of my "Field Day Fun Killers". Most of you who do that are probably > east of the Rockies. I remember Field Days where the seemingly most > important pieces of equipment were fans! The problem is that most of the > time all those did was blow hot air around! High temperatures plus high > humidity is a tough combination to combat. It doesn't take long before you > wish you could take a shower--but you probably can't! It even makes > grabbing a little shut eye difficult. > > Fighting the bug problem can be a bit easier, but takes some advance > planning. My Field Day kit includes a large canopy of mosquito netting > that can be suspended from most anything overhead, like a tree branch. A > tent-like canopy with netting works too, but isn't always as convenient to > locate. Fully enclosed tents tend to trap heat, so those don't always work > well either. > > Planning for Field Day can be a year long event, particularly for larger > groups. However, even the smaller operations need to start making a list > early! Your "fun killer" list may not be the same as mine, but whatever it > includes, you should consider early on how to deal with it. Starting the > process now, while the problems are fresh in your mind, is probably one of > the best things you can do. > > I've been reading a lot of complaints about high heat in the reports that > have been posted so far. That's always a problem, but it just seems like > it was more so this year. Even Wayne Burdick commented about some very > high temperatures in his area, and I think this may be a sign of the > times. I'm getting too old to have that kind of dedication. Here in my > area it was well into the 100's down low, but in the 70's higher up. I > will always opt for "up", even if I have to drive a bit further. Besides, > there are trees up there! > > Again, I greatly admire the dedication that many (if not most) of you gave > to this year's effort. However, I have to wonder if participating in those > 5A/6A or higher groups, who's location choices are perhaps much more > limited, is really worth it. Have you considered a 1A, or 2A operation in a > much more hospitable location? The food may not be quite as good, but the > experience can be well worth it! I know, it's often a "club thing", and > that may well overrule all other concerns. However, you still might want > to try it at least once--you might like it! For many years now I've > operated strictly QRP CW in the field, and never had more fun! > > 73, > > Dave W7AQK > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ka0iqt at gmail.com > From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Thu Jun 30 16:28:33 2016 From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 13:28:33 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Choosing A Battery For Ham Use In-Reply-To: <2b2ea4d2-c314-5bae-8e82-89cc74c72750@montac.com> References: <2b2ea4d2-c314-5bae-8e82-89cc74c72750@montac.com> Message-ID: Hi Clay, Because this is of general interest, I'm replying to the list. First, LiFePO4 batteries are pretty much ideal for ham applications because of their relatively flat discharge curve, and because their Ah vs weight ratio is a good compromise. For example, an LiFePO4 pack will be above 12.5 for about 80% of capacity and 12V for 90% of capacity, while a lead-acid battery will drop below 12V before it reaches 50% of capacity. Second, LiFePO4 batteries provide a LOT more charge-discharge cycles if treated properly. The result is that if you're going to use them for a lot of years, the longer life more than compensates for their higher cost. Third, LiFePO4 batteries are MUCH safer than Li-ion batteries. Disadvantages of LiFePO4 are initial cost and the fact that they need a special charger. However -- Bioenne told me that they can be safely charged using the West Mountain SuperPWR Gate set for AGM batteries and a power supply that is adjusted to about 14.5 volts. The AGM setting of the PwrGate limits the charging voltage to 14.2V, which is what LiFePO4 batteries need. Also, LiFePO4 batteries do NOT like to be discharged below about 95%, so care must be taken not to fully discharge them. Good battery packs will have control circuity that prevents this. Now, as to how much battery to buy. Start by studying current draw of the radio(s) and other equipment that you'll use with the battery, taking TX/RX duty cycle into account. Also look at weight if you're going to carry it. I bought a 20Ah pack (5.5#) to loan to a friend who was going to pack several miles uphill to activate a rare 6M grid with a KX3 and the 100W amp, and I just bought a 100Ah pack (26#) to run my SO2R shack. If I were going to pack with a KX2 or KX3, I'd buy something much smaller, like 6 - 12 Ah (2 - 4#), or even smaller. Your application carrying a K3/P3 around to chase RFI pulls about 1.6A, (1.8A with the SVGA module in the P3). A KX3 plus PX3 pulls about 350 mA at max screen brightness. Bioenne (and other vendors) package their LiFePO4 batteries more than one way for the same Ah capacity, often to retrofit into existing gear. With Bioenne batteries, I chose the PVC pack, which is lighter weight than the rectangular "solid" format. Bioenne and other battery vendors do NOT say that their chargers are RF-quiet, which is why you would use a PowerGate and known clean supply. To charge from solar, buy a Genasun charge regulator, which IS pretty RF-quiet. I've told Bioenne that they need to find quiet chargers. We'll see how they respond. As to voltages -- I would ONLY buy 12V nominal to power ham gear. If you need other voltages for other gear, look at http://www.batteryspace.com which carries a MUCH broader range of batteries. They're also good people, located in the SF Bay area. Bioenne is in Santa Ana, CA. I've chosen to avoid voltage boost products, which are essentially SMPS, and noisy. Yes, you can set them to be active only on TX, but if you're running two radios, the one you aren't TXing on will hear the noise. As to charging -- LiFePO4 batteries will last a lot longer if they are not fast-charged. A good rule of thumb is their 4 hour or 10 hour discharge current. In other words, for a 20Ah battery, avoid more than about 5A charge current. If you're sizing the battery to power your shack and will be float charging it, the charge current can be added to the capacity to figure how much battery you need. In my application, with worst case of SO2R contesting at 100W, I'll be TX on one radio or the other almost all the time, so I'm looking at roughly 12A worst case. If I wasn't doing SO2R, I could get by with a smaller battery. For non-critical applications like video monitors, router, cable modem, etc, I'm using el-cheapo lead acid batteries from my hamfest stash, and floating them from suitably sized linear wall warts. I've found that for most gear, voltage is not all that critical. For example, my Samsung computer monitors are sold with a 14VDC wall wart, but were still running fine when my lead-acid battery had dropped to 10.5 volts. I've looked around a lot, and so far have not found a better practical battery chemistry than LiFePO4. Another important point. For running electronics of all types, we do NOT want automotive batteries, which are primarily designed to provide a big hunk of current to start the engine, but which don't like to be deeply discharged. Instead, we want deep discharge types. Pay attention to this when selecting a battery. 73, Jim K9YC On Thu,6/30/2016 12:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote: > Jim, > > Looking to get LFP batts for my shack/house/mobile. > > Could you recommend sizing guidance? Is it as simple as multiplying the > voltage x amps to get watts and then dividing by 12VDC to get a 12VDC > current draw, and then spec'ing a batt based on Ah, etc etc... calculate > run time to 80% discharge (they claim up to 90%). > Or do I need to spec for some % overhead. I usually size stuff for 50% > overhead, so that if the device is running flat out it won't push the > supply beyond 50% max continuous. Does that apply here? > > Suggestions on how to get the required voltages I need: > > 5VDC - Probably won't need for now... Can get most of the supply I need > from the laptop docking station via multiple powered USB sockets. > 12 VDC - easy (and run the 18.8 VDC K3s and P3 from 12V if I have to?) > 13.8 VDC - For radio if possible to do it quietly. (12 VDC w/ boost > circuit or 24 VDC with buck circuit... Boost seems more efficient, but > see below) > 19.5 VDC - Laptop (and USB 5VDC) Boost or buck... > > Any ideas would be greatly appreciated... > > At a minimum, I want to get at least one battery to run my K3s/P3 to > hunt RFI with the house service off and then on one branch at a time. > At some point want to put batteries on all HAM, Broadband, Router, and > switches... > > > Thanks... > > ______________________ > Clay Autery, KY5G > MONTAC Enterprises From w1zk at comcast.net Thu Jun 30 17:38:12 2016 From: w1zk at comcast.net (Ralph McClintock) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 17:38:12 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] CW Setup - just a sinister affair! Message-ID: <0cfa6074-d05f-9cc2-e1dd-f1d1ec32670d@comcast.net> Mike, I sense a very "sinister" tone coming from your post! Love it. I have many lefty friends. I have to admit though, I have watched a couple sending at high speed while my head told my stomach to "relax, calm down, you are just having a bad food dream." Ralph W1ZK -- Secretary USS PUEBLO Veterans Association Life Member American Ex-Prisoners of War Life Member Disabled American Veterans From nn7uct at yahoo.com Thu Jun 30 17:59:39 2016 From: nn7uct at yahoo.com (Chuck Teague) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 14:59:39 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] Choosing A Battery For Ham Use In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1467323979790-7619466.post@n2.nabble.com> Jim, this is very helpful info. I'm just in the planning process of taking my station solar and this is information that will help immensely. Thanks. Chuck NN7U ----- Chuck Teague NN7U -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Fwd-Bioenno-s-July-Promotion-tp7619450p7619466.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From k9yeq at live.com Thu Jun 30 18:52:33 2016 From: k9yeq at live.com (Bill) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 17:52:33 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 vs KX2 vs KX3? from someone who owns one of each.. In-Reply-To: <7240B90EA9434AD7BBA144FF523AF05C@DougTPC> References: <000c01d1d2dd$f771f0e0$e655d2a0$@comcast.net> <7240B90EA9434AD7BBA144FF523AF05C@DougTPC> Message-ID: Nice review. I don't have an issue with the KX1 tuning rate, I was an FT for KX3, and navigating both is an issue with learning to operate both, which Don has done, but I don't have issues with tuning rates or QSY with either. It does require some hand coordination which can be an issue with many operators. I just happen to be lucky and it is of no issue for me. The KX1 has lots of positives, price and weight being two big ones compared to the other KX'es. So consider all the options. I am considering selling my KX1 only because most of my operation is from the QTH and my past interest has been to own all the Elecraft equipment going back to my K2 days also as an FT #35. Yes that goes back to ~1998 or so. I don't recall and my old emails are saved somewhere, but have no interest to resurrect them. They have been saved through numerous system updates. I would not mind owning a KX2 but really do need to remove some other equipment sitting on idle, TS2000, IC7000, KAT500 and some older MFJ tuners so I can reduce the shack size in prep for moving. The KX3 and the amp do a lot. My K3 and P3 are super. They will also need to be replaced. My THP 2.5KFX puts me into the wild at any time. It too will need to go. The KX2 from all I have read: good radio even despite the knob size being like the KX1. I don't need a spinner. Use direct input, etc. But back on topic... All the KX's are super. Buy for what you need and don't be put off to use any of them as they work well. No offense intended to Don, but any work very well and are super fun. -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Turnbull Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 1:43 PM To: 'Don Butler' ; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX1 vs KX2 vs KX3? from someone who owns one of each.. Don, Thank you for this as it is most informative. Have you any rough idea as to battery life comparison for KX2 and KX3 - I realize this is a difficult question. Thank you once again. 73 Doug EI2CN -----Original Message----- From: Don Butler [mailto:n5lz at comcast.net] Sent: 30 June 2016 14:45 To: 'Doug Turnbull'; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: KX1 vs KX2 vs KX3? from someone who owns one of each.. In addition to a few K3s, I also own a KX1, KX2, and KX3 and believe that I am in a position where I can make a few unbiased comparisons between the ?KX? group. EI2CN asked today about weight comparisons between the three radios so I thought I would provide that info and add just a couple of my own thoughts about the three different radios. My KX1 (4 band and tuner) with paddle and 6 lithium batteries weighs 14.6 oz. My KX2 (tuner and clock) with battery pack but without paddle weighs 20 oz. The battery pack alone weighs 5 ? oz. Adding the KXPD3 (since the KXPD2 is still back ordered) adds about 1 oz to make the total package 21 oz. My KX3 (with all options and also with the 3rd party sidekick panels) and with 8 NIMH batteries, charger and KXPD3 weighs 35 oz. . The NIMH batteries make up about 8 oz of that total. Since I own and have used all three radios, and really have no reason for bias, I thought I would share my thoughts relative to comparisons. For clarification these are MY opinions only the way I feel about the three radios as an owner of each and of course this is not an attempt to be any kind of in depth review or comparison . I?m going to focus on the main encoder dial only. Here goes: To me, the KX2 has rendered the KX1 obsolete .... the KX2 has virtually every capability of the KX1 but also has much much more is about the same size and weighs just 7 oz more. It?s the perfect radio for travelling light or backpacking for portable QRP operation. I prefer the KX3 over the KX2 .... mainly because of the main tuning knob . It was apparently necessary to use a smaller encoder on the KX2 to keep the overall package small (and that has been accomplished). But to me it came at a significant price because it is really rather cumbersome to slowly tune the bands with the KX2 main dial when compared to doing so with the very nice encoder on the KX3. To me the main dial on the KX2 has the same feel as the dial on the KX1 .. while the main dial on the KX3 is more like that on the K3 the KX3 wins on my scorecard on that comparison hands down, and it therefore remains my choice for most operating situations. There are workaround alternatives to make tuning easier on the KX2 .. for example it?s actually easier to tune up and down the bands using the MH3 up/down buttons than doing so with the main tuning knob . But who really wants to tune a radio with mic buttons? . Not me! Coarse tuning with the VFO B knob is the best option in my hands and I have mine set for 0.5 khz on CW and 2.5 khz on SSB, which allows me to scan the band with coarse tuning and tweak with the main dial when I find a signal of interest. I will choose the KX3 for ?in shack? use (but after the K3 of course) and for any portable use when I want to spend significant time with the radio and log lots of QSOs. ( FYI, our Field Day group operated 1A here in Utah using my KX3/KXPA100 at 100 watts , deep cycle battery, CrankIR and center fed zepp and, with lots of off time and sleeping through the night we still managed to log over 600 CW qsos). I will pick the KX2 for portable QRP operation when I want to travel light and do not plan to spend hours on the air. I doubt that I will be using the KX1 in the future . but it?s still a keeper as far as I?m concerned ? Just one man?s opinions 73, Don, N5LZ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k9yeq at live.com From jh3sif at sumaq.jp Thu Jun 30 19:03:24 2016 From: jh3sif at sumaq.jp (Keith Onishi) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 08:03:24 +0900 Subject: [Elecraft] K-pod - is it shipping? In-Reply-To: <000d01d1d190$656504b0$302f0e10$@verizon.net> References: <2d59719a-13d1-3e46-6b04-9003029085ba@nycap.rr.com> <69c2becd-b478-44b0-3b34-05ce3ccbafbe@elecraft.com> <000d01d1d190$656504b0$302f0e10$@verizon.net> Message-ID: I got the message early this morning that my K-Pod has been shipped. 73 de JH3SIF, Keith > 2016/06/29 7:57?Roger Marrotte ????? > > Good to hear Eric. How about the KXPD2. It's listed as also shipping > starting today? > > Roger, W1EM > __________________________________________________________________ > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K-pod - is it shipping? > > We should start shipping our backlog later this week. We are building them > in production and are just waiting release of the K-Pod utility for f/w > updates. > > It will take several weeks to ship everything on the backlog. > > 73, > Eric > /elecraft.com/ > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jh3sif at sumaq.jp From k9yeq at live.com Thu Jun 30 19:17:30 2016 From: k9yeq at live.com (Bill) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 18:17:30 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Choosing A Battery For Ham Use In-Reply-To: References: <2b2ea4d2-c314-5bae-8e82-89cc74c72750@montac.com> Message-ID: My RC hobby charger manages these batteries according to specs. I have not tried but am ready to pull the plug to use them to charge my LIPOs in the field to enjoy more operation time. Any thoughts or experience appreciated. I do RC via boats, cars and sailplanes. Bill K9YEQ -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 3:29 PM To: Reflector Elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] Choosing A Battery For Ham Use Hi Clay, Because this is of general interest, I'm replying to the list. First, LiFePO4 batteries are pretty much ideal for ham applications because of their relatively flat discharge curve, and because their Ah vs weight ratio is a good compromise. For example, an LiFePO4 pack will be above 12.5 for about 80% of capacity and 12V for 90% of capacity, while a lead-acid battery will drop below 12V before it reaches 50% of capacity. Second, LiFePO4 batteries provide a LOT more charge-discharge cycles if treated properly. The result is that if you're going to use them for a lot of years, the longer life more than compensates for their higher cost. Third, LiFePO4 batteries are MUCH safer than Li-ion batteries. Disadvantages of LiFePO4 are initial cost and the fact that they need a special charger. However -- Bioenne told me that they can be safely charged using the West Mountain SuperPWR Gate set for AGM batteries and a power supply that is adjusted to about 14.5 volts. The AGM setting of the PwrGate limits the charging voltage to 14.2V, which is what LiFePO4 batteries need. Also, LiFePO4 batteries do NOT like to be discharged below about 95%, so care must be taken not to fully discharge them. Good battery packs will have control circuity that prevents this. Now, as to how much battery to buy. Start by studying current draw of the radio(s) and other equipment that you'll use with the battery, taking TX/RX duty cycle into account. Also look at weight if you're going to carry it. I bought a 20Ah pack (5.5#) to loan to a friend who was going to pack several miles uphill to activate a rare 6M grid with a KX3 and the 100W amp, and I just bought a 100Ah pack (26#) to run my SO2R shack. If I were going to pack with a KX2 or KX3, I'd buy something much smaller, like 6 - 12 Ah (2 - 4#), or even smaller. Your application carrying a K3/P3 around to chase RFI pulls about 1.6A, (1.8A with the SVGA module in the P3). A KX3 plus PX3 pulls about 350 mA at max screen brightness. Bioenne (and other vendors) package their LiFePO4 batteries more than one way for the same Ah capacity, often to retrofit into existing gear. With Bioenne batteries, I chose the PVC pack, which is lighter weight than the rectangular "solid" format. Bioenne and other battery vendors do NOT say that their chargers are RF-quiet, which is why you would use a PowerGate and known clean supply. To charge from solar, buy a Genasun charge regulator, which IS pretty RF-quiet. I've told Bioenne that they need to find quiet chargers. We'll see how they respond. As to voltages -- I would ONLY buy 12V nominal to power ham gear. If you need other voltages for other gear, look at http://www.batteryspace.com which carries a MUCH broader range of batteries. They're also good people, located in the SF Bay area. Bioenne is in Santa Ana, CA. I've chosen to avoid voltage boost products, which are essentially SMPS, and noisy. Yes, you can set them to be active only on TX, but if you're running two radios, the one you aren't TXing on will hear the noise. As to charging -- LiFePO4 batteries will last a lot longer if they are not fast-charged. A good rule of thumb is their 4 hour or 10 hour discharge current. In other words, for a 20Ah battery, avoid more than about 5A charge current. If you're sizing the battery to power your shack and will be float charging it, the charge current can be added to the capacity to figure how much battery you need. In my application, with worst case of SO2R contesting at 100W, I'll be TX on one radio or the other almost all the time, so I'm looking at roughly 12A worst case. If I wasn't doing SO2R, I could get by with a smaller battery. For non-critical applications like video monitors, router, cable modem, etc, I'm using el-cheapo lead acid batteries from my hamfest stash, and floating them from suitably sized linear wall warts. I've found that for most gear, voltage is not all that critical. For example, my Samsung computer monitors are sold with a 14VDC wall wart, but were still running fine when my lead-acid battery had dropped to 10.5 volts. I've looked around a lot, and so far have not found a better practical battery chemistry than LiFePO4. Another important point. For running electronics of all types, we do NOT want automotive batteries, which are primarily designed to provide a big hunk of current to start the engine, but which don't like to be deeply discharged. Instead, we want deep discharge types. Pay attention to this when selecting a battery. 73, Jim K9YC On Thu,6/30/2016 12:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote: > Jim, > > Looking to get LFP batts for my shack/house/mobile. > > Could you recommend sizing guidance? Is it as simple as multiplying > the voltage x amps to get watts and then dividing by 12VDC to get a > 12VDC current draw, and then spec'ing a batt based on Ah, etc etc... > calculate run time to 80% discharge (they claim up to 90%). > Or do I need to spec for some % overhead. I usually size stuff for > 50% overhead, so that if the device is running flat out it won't push > the supply beyond 50% max continuous. Does that apply here? > > Suggestions on how to get the required voltages I need: > > 5VDC - Probably won't need for now... Can get most of the supply I > need from the laptop docking station via multiple powered USB sockets. > 12 VDC - easy (and run the 18.8 VDC K3s and P3 from 12V if I have to?) > 13.8 VDC - For radio if possible to do it quietly. (12 VDC w/ boost > circuit or 24 VDC with buck circuit... Boost seems more efficient, > but see below) > 19.5 VDC - Laptop (and USB 5VDC) Boost or buck... > > Any ideas would be greatly appreciated... > > At a minimum, I want to get at least one battery to run my K3s/P3 to > hunt RFI with the house service off and then on one branch at a time. > At some point want to put batteries on all HAM, Broadband, Router, and > switches... > > > Thanks... > > ______________________ > Clay Autery, KY5G > MONTAC Enterprises ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k9yeq at live.com From rodenkirch_llc at msn.com Thu Jun 30 19:19:14 2016 From: rodenkirch_llc at msn.com (Jim Rodenkirch) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 16:19:14 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Elecraft] A simple query re KX3 VFO compensation adjustment...simple., ..not complex Message-ID: <1467328754792-7619470.post@n2.nabble.com> I was perusing the KX3 order page fora friend but don't see the VFO compensation offered as an "extra": I paid to have it done back at the factory when I ordered my KX3 back in November of 2015. Is it done now as part of the basic assembled KX3 purchase? I called elecraft twice and left messages.....noreply...can some one answer my simple question? 72 de Jim R. K9JWV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/A-simple-query-re-KX3-VFO-compensation-adjustment-simple-not-complex-tp7619470.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From k9yeq at live.com Thu Jun 30 19:20:08 2016 From: k9yeq at live.com (Bill) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 18:20:08 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 vs KX2 vs KX3? from someone who owns one of each.. In-Reply-To: References: <000c01d1d2dd$f771f0e0$e655d2a0$@comcast.net> <7240B90EA9434AD7BBA144FF523AF05C@DougTPC> Message-ID: That should read KX1 vs KX3. -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 5:53 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX1 vs KX2 vs KX3? from someone who owns one of each.. Nice review. I don't have an issue with the KX1 tuning rate, I was an FT for KX3, and navigating both is an issue with learning to operate both, which Don has done, but I don't have issues with tuning rates or QSY with either. It does require some hand coordination which can be an issue with many operators. I just happen to be lucky and it is of no issue for me. The KX1 has lots of positives, price and weight being two big ones compared to the other KX'es. So consider all the options. I am considering selling my KX1 only because most of my operation is from the QTH and my past interest has been to own all the Elecraft equipment going back to my K2 days also as an FT #35. Yes that goes back to ~1998 or so. I don't recall and my old emails are saved somewhere, but have no interest to resurrect them. They have been saved through numerous system updates. I would not mind owning a KX2 but really do need to remove some other equipment sitting on idle, TS2000, IC7000, KAT500 and some older MFJ tuners so I can reduce the shack size in prep for moving. The KX3 and the amp do a lot. My K3 and P3 are super. They will also need to be replaced. My THP 2.5KFX puts me into the wild at any time. It too will need to go. The KX2 from all I have read: good radio even despite the knob size being like the KX1. I don't need a spinner. Use direct input, etc. But back on topic... All the KX's are super. Buy for what you need and don't be put off to use any of them as they work well. No offense intended to Don, but any work very well and are super fun. -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Turnbull Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 1:43 PM To: 'Don Butler' ; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX1 vs KX2 vs KX3? from someone who owns one of each.. Don, Thank you for this as it is most informative. Have you any rough idea as to battery life comparison for KX2 and KX3 - I realize this is a difficult question. Thank you once again. 73 Doug EI2CN -----Original Message----- From: Don Butler [mailto:n5lz at comcast.net] Sent: 30 June 2016 14:45 To: 'Doug Turnbull'; elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: KX1 vs KX2 vs KX3? from someone who owns one of each.. In addition to a few K3s, I also own a KX1, KX2, and KX3 and believe that I am in a position where I can make a few unbiased comparisons between the ?KX? group. EI2CN asked today about weight comparisons between the three radios so I thought I would provide that info and add just a couple of my own thoughts about the three different radios. My KX1 (4 band and tuner) with paddle and 6 lithium batteries weighs 14.6 oz. My KX2 (tuner and clock) with battery pack but without paddle weighs 20 oz. The battery pack alone weighs 5 ? oz. Adding the KXPD3 (since the KXPD2 is still back ordered) adds about 1 oz to make the total package 21 oz. My KX3 (with all options and also with the 3rd party sidekick panels) and with 8 NIMH batteries, charger and KXPD3 weighs 35 oz. . The NIMH batteries make up about 8 oz of that total. Since I own and have used all three radios, and really have no reason for bias, I thought I would share my thoughts relative to comparisons. For clarification these are MY opinions only the way I feel about the three radios as an owner of each and of course this is not an attempt to be any kind of in depth review or comparison . I?m going to focus on the main encoder dial only. Here goes: To me, the KX2 has rendered the KX1 obsolete .... the KX2 has virtually every capability of the KX1 but also has much much more is about the same size and weighs just 7 oz more. It?s the perfect radio for travelling light or backpacking for portable QRP operation. I prefer the KX3 over the KX2 .... mainly because of the main tuning knob . It was apparently necessary to use a smaller encoder on the KX2 to keep the overall package small (and that has been accomplished). But to me it came at a significant price because it is really rather cumbersome to slowly tune the bands with the KX2 main dial when compared to doing so with the very nice encoder on the KX3. To me the main dial on the KX2 has the same feel as the dial on the KX1 .. while the main dial on the KX3 is more like that on the K3 the KX3 wins on my scorecard on that comparison hands down, and it therefore remains my choice for most operating situations. There are workaround alternatives to make tuning easier on the KX2 .. for example it?s actually easier to tune up and down the bands using the MH3 up/down buttons than doing so with the main tuning knob . But who really wants to tune a radio with mic buttons? . Not me! Coarse tuning with the VFO B knob is the best option in my hands and I have mine set for 0.5 khz on CW and 2.5 khz on SSB, which allows me to scan the band with coarse tuning and tweak with the main dial when I find a signal of interest. I will choose the KX3 for ?in shack? use (but after the K3 of course) and for any portable use when I want to spend significant time with the radio and log lots of QSOs. ( FYI, our Field Day group operated 1A here in Utah using my KX3/KXPA100 at 100 watts , deep cycle battery, CrankIR and center fed zepp and, with lots of off time and sleeping through the night we still managed to log over 600 CW qsos). I will pick the KX2 for portable QRP operation when I want to travel light and do not plan to spend hours on the air. I doubt that I will be using the KX1 in the future . but it?s still a keeper as far as I?m concerned ? Just one man?s opinions 73, Don, N5LZ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k9yeq at live.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k9yeq at live.com From k6dgw at foothill.net Thu Jun 30 20:02:16 2016 From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 17:02:16 -0700 Subject: [Elecraft] Choosing A Battery For Ham Use In-Reply-To: References: <2b2ea4d2-c314-5bae-8e82-89cc74c72750@montac.com> Message-ID: <17d47570-9652-3e29-bcd8-8d829dac70a0@foothill.net> I'm also replying to the list. Jim's advice and observations [I left them on this] are in total agreement with mine. My LiFePO4 A123 4S1P pack powers my K2 for way longer than I choose to sit on the ground on some SOTA peak. With the K2, over-discharge is self-limiting -- at what amounts to full discharge on the pack, the voltage drops very quickly and the K2 shuts down. Store them with about 75-80% charge. I've had one LiPoly RC pack burst into flames while operating in a Spartan Sprint with my KX1. Fortunately, I was out on the deck, and more fortunately, had the pack on a pigtail external to the KX1 and could fling it over onto the gravel driveway. I understand their use and good attributes in the RC-world, my only advice is charge them outside. :-) Yes, LiFePO4's do require a cell-balancing charger [some say they don't, but then some say the moon landings were faked too], and this complicates a situation where you want to power your station from batteries on a float charger. If ounces matter to you, LiPoly is probably the lightest for the capacity. Hard to beat LiFePO4 if you can tolerate a little more weight however. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org On 6/30/2016 4:17 PM, Bill wrote: > My RC hobby charger manages these batteries according to specs. I have not > tried but am ready to pull the plug to use them to charge my LIPOs in the > field to enjoy more operation time. Any thoughts or experience appreciated. > I do RC via boats, cars and sailplanes. > > Bill > K9YEQ > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim > Brown > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 3:29 PM > To: Reflector Elecraft > Subject: [Elecraft] Choosing A Battery For Ham Use > > Hi Clay, > > Because this is of general interest, I'm replying to the list. > > First, LiFePO4 batteries are pretty much ideal for ham applications because > of their relatively flat discharge curve, and because their Ah vs weight > ratio is a good compromise. For example, an LiFePO4 pack will be above 12.5 > for about 80% of capacity and 12V for 90% of capacity, while a lead-acid > battery will drop below 12V before it reaches 50% of capacity. > > Second, LiFePO4 batteries provide a LOT more charge-discharge cycles if > treated properly. The result is that if you're going to use them for a lot > of years, the longer life more than compensates for their higher cost. > > Third, LiFePO4 batteries are MUCH safer than Li-ion batteries. > > Disadvantages of LiFePO4 are initial cost and the fact that they need a > special charger. However -- Bioenne told me that they can be safely charged > using the West Mountain SuperPWR Gate set for AGM batteries and a power > supply that is adjusted to about 14.5 volts. The AGM setting of the PwrGate > limits the charging voltage to 14.2V, which is what LiFePO4 batteries need. > Also, LiFePO4 batteries do NOT like to be discharged below about 95%, so > care must be taken not to fully discharge them. Good battery packs will have > control circuity that prevents this. > > Now, as to how much battery to buy. Start by studying current draw of the > radio(s) and other equipment that you'll use with the battery, taking TX/RX > duty cycle into account. Also look at weight if you're going to carry it. I > bought a 20Ah pack (5.5#) to loan to a friend who was going to pack several > miles uphill to activate a rare 6M grid with a > KX3 and the 100W amp, and I just bought a 100Ah pack (26#) to run my SO2R > shack. If I were going to pack with a KX2 or KX3, I'd buy something much > smaller, like 6 - 12 Ah (2 - 4#), or even smaller. Your application > carrying a K3/P3 around to chase RFI pulls about 1.6A, (1.8A with the SVGA > module in the P3). A KX3 plus PX3 pulls about 350 mA at max screen > brightness. > > Bioenne (and other vendors) package their LiFePO4 batteries more than one > way for the same Ah capacity, often to retrofit into existing gear. > With Bioenne batteries, I chose the PVC pack, which is lighter weight than > the rectangular "solid" format. > > Bioenne and other battery vendors do NOT say that their chargers are > RF-quiet, which is why you would use a PowerGate and known clean supply. > To charge from solar, buy a Genasun charge regulator, which IS pretty > RF-quiet. I've told Bioenne that they need to find quiet chargers. > We'll see how they respond. > > As to voltages -- I would ONLY buy 12V nominal to power ham gear. If you > need other voltages for other gear, look at http://www.batteryspace.com > which carries a MUCH broader range of batteries. They're also good people, > located in the SF Bay area. Bioenne is in Santa Ana, CA. > > I've chosen to avoid voltage boost products, which are essentially SMPS, and > noisy. Yes, you can set them to be active only on TX, but if you're running > two radios, the one you aren't TXing on will hear the noise. > > As to charging -- LiFePO4 batteries will last a lot longer if they are not > fast-charged. A good rule of thumb is their 4 hour or 10 hour discharge > current. In other words, for a 20Ah battery, avoid more than about 5A charge > current. > > If you're sizing the battery to power your shack and will be float charging > it, the charge current can be added to the capacity to figure how much > battery you need. In my application, with worst case of SO2R contesting at > 100W, I'll be TX on one radio or the other almost all the time, so I'm > looking at roughly 12A worst case. If I wasn't doing SO2R, I could get by > with a smaller battery. > > For non-critical applications like video monitors, router, cable modem, etc, > I'm using el-cheapo lead acid batteries from my hamfest stash, and floating > them from suitably sized linear wall warts. I've found that for most gear, > voltage is not all that critical. For example, my Samsung computer monitors > are sold with a 14VDC wall wart, but were still running fine when my > lead-acid battery had dropped to 10.5 volts. > > I've looked around a lot, and so far have not found a better practical > battery chemistry than LiFePO4. > > Another important point. For running electronics of all types, we do NOT > want automotive batteries, which are primarily designed to provide a big > hunk of current to start the engine, but which don't like to be deeply > discharged. Instead, we want deep discharge types. Pay attention to this > when selecting a battery. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > On Thu,6/30/2016 12:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote: >> Jim, >> >> Looking to get LFP batts for my shack/house/mobile. >> >> Could you recommend sizing guidance? Is it as simple as multiplying >> the voltage x amps to get watts and then dividing by 12VDC to get a >> 12VDC current draw, and then spec'ing a batt based on Ah, etc etc... >> calculate run time to 80% discharge (they claim up to 90%). >> Or do I need to spec for some % overhead. I usually size stuff for >> 50% overhead, so that if the device is running flat out it won't push >> the supply beyond 50% max continuous. Does that apply here? >> >> Suggestions on how to get the required voltages I need: >> >> 5VDC - Probably won't need for now... Can get most of the supply I >> need from the laptop docking station via multiple powered USB sockets. >> 12 VDC - easy (and run the 18.8 VDC K3s and P3 from 12V if I have to?) >> 13.8 VDC - For radio if possible to do it quietly. (12 VDC w/ boost >> circuit or 24 VDC with buck circuit... Boost seems more efficient, >> but see below) >> 19.5 VDC - Laptop (and USB 5VDC) Boost or buck... >> >> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated... >> >> At a minimum, I want to get at least one battery to run my K3s/P3 to >> hunt RFI with the house service off and then on one branch at a time. >> At some point want to put batteries on all HAM, Broadband, Router, and >> switches... >> >> >> Thanks... >> >> ______________________ >> Clay Autery, KY5G >> MONTAC Enterprises > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to k9yeq at live.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k6dgw at foothill.net > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7640 / Virus Database: 4613/12526 - Release Date: 06/30/16 > > From cautery at montac.com Thu Jun 30 20:47:44 2016 From: cautery at montac.com (Clay Autery) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 19:47:44 -0500 Subject: [Elecraft] Choosing A Battery For Ham Use In-Reply-To: References: <2b2ea4d2-c314-5bae-8e82-89cc74c72750@montac.com> Message-ID: Thanks Jim! That'll get me started! ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 6/30/2016 3:28 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > Hi Clay, > > Because this is of general interest, I'm replying to the list. > > First, LiFePO4 batteries are pretty much ideal for ham applications > because of their relatively flat discharge curve, and because their Ah > vs weight ratio is a good compromise. For example, an LiFePO4 pack > will be above 12.5 for about 80% of capacity and 12V for 90% of > capacity, while a lead-acid battery will drop below 12V before it > reaches 50% of capacity. > > Second, LiFePO4 batteries provide a LOT more charge-discharge cycles > if treated properly. The result is that if you're going to use them > for a lot of years, the longer life more than compensates for their > higher cost. > > Third, LiFePO4 batteries are MUCH safer than Li-ion batteries. > > Disadvantages of LiFePO4 are initial cost and the fact that they need > a special charger. However -- Bioenne told me that they can be safely > charged using the West Mountain SuperPWR Gate set for AGM batteries > and a power supply that is adjusted to about 14.5 volts. The AGM > setting of the PwrGate limits the charging voltage to 14.2V, which is > what LiFePO4 batteries need. Also, LiFePO4 batteries do NOT like to > be discharged below about 95%, so care must be taken not to fully > discharge them. Good battery packs will have control circuity that > prevents this. > > Now, as to how much battery to buy. Start by studying current draw of > the radio(s) and other equipment that you'll use with the battery, > taking TX/RX duty cycle into account. Also look at weight if you're > going to carry it. I bought a 20Ah pack (5.5#) to loan to a friend > who was going to pack several miles uphill to activate a rare 6M grid > with a KX3 and the 100W amp, and I just bought a 100Ah pack (26#) to > run my SO2R shack. If I were going to pack with a KX2 or KX3, I'd buy > something much smaller, like 6 - 12 Ah (2 - 4#), or even smaller. > Your application carrying a K3/P3 around to chase RFI pulls about > 1.6A, (1.8A with the SVGA module in the P3). A KX3 plus PX3 pulls > about 350 mA at max screen brightness. > > Bioenne (and other vendors) package their LiFePO4 batteries more than > one way for the same Ah capacity, often to retrofit into existing > gear. With Bioenne batteries, I chose the PVC pack, which is lighter > weight than the rectangular "solid" format. > > Bioenne and other battery vendors do NOT say that their chargers are > RF-quiet, which is why you would use a PowerGate and known clean > supply. To charge from solar, buy a Genasun charge regulator, which IS > pretty RF-quiet. I've told Bioenne that they need to find quiet > chargers. We'll see how they respond. > > As to voltages -- I would ONLY buy 12V nominal to power ham gear. If > you need other voltages for other gear, look at > http://www.batteryspace.com which carries a MUCH broader range of > batteries. They're also good people, located in the SF Bay area. > Bioenne is in Santa Ana, CA. > > I've chosen to avoid voltage boost products, which are essentially > SMPS, and noisy. Yes, you can set them to be active only on TX, but if > you're running two radios, the one you aren't TXing on will hear the > noise. > > As to charging -- LiFePO4 batteries will last a lot longer if they are > not fast-charged. A good rule of thumb is their 4 hour or 10 hour > discharge current. In other words, for a 20Ah battery, avoid more than > about 5A charge current. > > If you're sizing the battery to power your shack and will be float > charging it, the charge current can be added to the capacity to figure > how much battery you need. In my application, with worst case of SO2R > contesting at 100W, I'll be TX on one radio or the other almost all > the time, so I'm looking at roughly 12A worst case. If I wasn't doing > SO2R, I could get by with a smaller battery. > > For non-critical applications like video monitors, router, cable > modem, etc, I'm using el-cheapo lead acid batteries from my hamfest > stash, and floating them from suitably sized linear wall warts. I've > found that for most gear, voltage is not all that critical. For > example, my Samsung computer monitors are sold with a 14VDC wall wart, > but were still running fine when my lead-acid battery had dropped to > 10.5 volts. > > I've looked around a lot, and so far have not found a better practical > battery chemistry than LiFePO4. > > Another important point. For running electronics of all types, we do > NOT want automotive batteries, which are primarily designed to provide > a big hunk of current to start the engine, but which don't like to be > deeply discharged. Instead, we want deep discharge types. Pay > attention to this when selecting a battery. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > From wd4elg at triad.rr.com Thu Jun 30 21:29:51 2016 From: wd4elg at triad.rr.com (Mark Lunday) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 21:29:51 -0400 Subject: [Elecraft] Choosing A Battery For Ham Use In-Reply-To: References: <2b2ea4d2-c314-5bae-8e82-89cc74c72750@montac.com> Message-ID: <013301d1d338$119064c0$34b12e40$@rr.com> I am giving this one some serious thought. Anyone else have experience with it? http://www.portableuniversalpower.com/our-products/qrp-ranger/ Mark Lunday, WD4ELG Greensboro, NC FM06be wd4elg at arrl.net http://wd4elg.blogspot.com