[Elecraft] K3: Using Linux - OT

Kevin kstover at ac0h.net
Sun Jul 31 12:06:40 EDT 2016


Virtual Box is free for non-commercial users. You've got to have some 
pretty good hardware meaning dual core processor, as much memory as you 
can afford and a good video card.

I have it running on a quad core AMD @ 4.0GHz, 32G of DDR3 ram, and a 
small time gamer class video card. I have four virtual machines 
installed, XP, Win7 which gets used the most, Windows 10, and for old 
times sake DOS 6.22 to run Castle Wolfenstein. The hard drives are a 
pair of 512 Gig SSD's. I don't run an Linux distro VM because the 
accessibility options for the Linux desktop just plain suck compared to 
Windows.

You can run Windows on a Linux/FreeBSD host and don't have to dork 
around trying to get WINE running correctly. WINES days are numbered.


On 7/31/2016 10:28 AM, a45wg wrote:
> Mike,
> 	What you are possibly getting a little confused is
>
> 	WINE - which sort of allows Windows executables to run in a Linux environment. How well this solution works depends upon the Application, and the DLL’s. This was initially intended for XP/Win NT. Since lots of Windows apps are now .NET Assemblies this is more tricky to use, as Mono has not been fully embraced by the Open-Source community.
>
> 	Virtualisation - Oracle-Virtual Box (KVM and VMware) allows you to run a different OS (Operating System) machine in another environment (in this case in a Linux Environment). This solution is the most stable - but at the costs of further enriching a large US Multi-National. A very good technique and one used in Data Centres around the world.
>
> 	Welcome on-board - there may be a few bumps on the way - but you are at least on the right path.
>
> 	73s - A45WG
>
> 	 Tim, Muscat:  Sultanate  of Oman
>
> 	
>
>
>> On 31 Jul 2016, at 19:18, Mike Rhodes <w8dn at roadrunner.com> wrote:
>>
>>   Ok, I already see I have misunderstood something. I mistakenly thought Wine was an emulator that would allow you to run a copy of Windows on Linux where it is actually a Windows on Linux simulator. That answers at least part of my question.
>>
>> Mike / W8DN
>>
>> On 7/31/2016 11:14 AM, Mike Rhodes wrote:
>>>   Ok, I am not a Unix/Linux user. Years ago I did a little C programming on a real-time Unix box but have forgotten way more than I learned about that system (and C).
>>>   However, I have to ask the question - what is the point of getting away from "windoze" by going to a Linux box and then immediately slapping a fully licensed copy of "Windoze", running under an emulator, on that Linux box. It just seems not only counter-intuitive but counter-productive. Since the majority of the apps that I wish to run are strictly Windows based, it just seems to make more sense to run the real thing natively. If the intent is to not add more to the Gates billions then you have defeated that by running under an emulator.
>>>
>>> Mike / W8DN
>>>
>>> On 7/31/2016 10:39 AM, Matt Zilmer wrote:
>>>> All the Elecraft utilities I use work fine on Wine, under Ubuntu 16.04.  Using Wine dodges the multiarch requirement, and it seems 100% compatible with all Windoze API calls the utilities make.  If you decide to go this way, you'll have to make a symlink between /dev/tty<whatever> to COM1 in dos_devices.  If your serial port under Linux is /dev/ttyUSB0, in a terminal type
>>>>
>>>>     ln -s /dev/ttyUSB0 ~/.wine/dosdevices/com1
>>>>
>>>> [Also, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/685985/symbolic-link-between-usb-and-com-port].
>>>>
>>>> The Linux native utilities are ported from Win32 to the Linux 32-bit API.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> matt W6NIA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/31/2016 4:01 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
>>>>> * On 2016 30 Jul 20:39 -0500, Bill wrote:
>>>>>> I am only interested in how well the Elecraft provided software under Linux
>>>>>> works? I do not use any third party stuff at all. Is it as easy and straight
>>>>>> forward as their Windows software?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> K3 Utility, KPA Utility, etc.
>>>>> Be aware that the Elecraft utilities are only available in 32 bit
>>>>> versions at this time.  If you use a distribution that allows
>>>>> 'multiarch', and Mint should being a Debian derivative, you will need
>>>>> i386 architecture enabled if your base architecture is amd64. Ubuntu,
>>>>> and probably Mint, have this enabled on amd64 installations. You will
>>>>> probably have to manually install the i386 versions of some libraries.
>>>>>
>>>>> It sounds like more of a hassle than it really is.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, Nate
>>>>>
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