[Elecraft] QSLs

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

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Eric
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> On Jul 26, 2016, at 6:33 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire <ron at cobi.biz> wrote:
> 
> Hams are people. Some people are dishonest.
> 
> However, to judge whether a contact is honest or not cannot be made on the
> basis of what we think we know about propagation. 
> 
> Remember that Hams in the USA were given the use of frequencies of 200
> meters and down based on the "scientific" knowledge that any wavelength less
> than 200 meter was totally useless for communications beyond a mile or two.
> 200 meters is about 1500 kHz. They were saying that any frequency higher
> than 1500 kHz was useless for long-distance communications: All of the HF
> ham bands were useless for communications beyond a mile or two or as some
> said (beyond their back yards). 
> 
> We know that is not true. Further, we are still discovering unexpected
> oddities in propagation. Exploring those oddities is one of the major
> justifications for even having Hams because there are so many of us
> tinkering around with things others are sure will never work. 
> 
> Sure, a pair of Hams may collude to report a contact. But to assume it was
> not possible is to reject the very basis for why Ham radio exists (at least
> in the USA). 
> 
> I suggest that such odd reports be places on "suspension" until more are
> received, just as any other experience would be until it is proven
> "repeatable". Only then could it be accepted as "proof" of the first
> occurrence. 
> 
> Otherwise it is allowed to fade into obscurity along with things like cold
> fusion.
> 
> 73 Ron AC7AC
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gene
> Gabry
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 5:45 AM
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QSLs
> 
> I think what Jorge might have been inferring is, LOTW doesn't have the same
> capability as a log checker would to make a judgment that a two way contact
> could not have been made on 160m between a station in Chicago at 12 noon
> Chicago time and say Australia. What's to say a couple hams might have
> coordinated together to falsely upload a contact as mentioned to finish off
> an award? The times and frequency and calls match, confirmed contact. Most
> hams would not even think of doing this. But, just as is the human condition
> in life, cheating happens. I'm sure it happens to some % in the ham
> community as well. 
> 
> Gene, N9TF
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim
> Brown
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 10:51 PM
> To: Reflector Elecraft
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QSLs
> 
> LOTW runs on GMT (UTC). If you keep your log in UTC, all will be confirmed.
> Except, of course, for a few stations that don't get it right. But that is
> rare.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
> 
> 
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