[Elecraft] N1MM Logger +

Sat Jul 9 10:38:23 EDT 2016

Responding to some number of comments in this and closely related threads,
not just this particular poster.

1) A reminder that PLAIN N1MM is NO LONGER SUPPORTED, for two years now.
Shouting intended.

N1MM+ is the current and supported version. Any problem you have with the
old MM, the first step is to upgrade to the latest N1MM+. Plus you will
open yourself up to a small pile of neat new features. Any problem with
MM+, the first step is to upgrade to the latest MM+. Still problems? Go to
their excellent support reflector, where there are many patient and
informed members who have zero problems helping steer a newby or an
unfortunate victim to a successful launch. With a little practice and
reading, the MM+ doc will become your best friend. Many, many, many hours
have been spent to create that excellent doc. If someone does not answer
your reflector post in ten minutes, remember that everything is volunteer,
no paid staff. Leave yourself generous run up time before a contest to
allow conversations to run a cycle per evening. If not, those who will
finally answer you are most likely not reading email at that particular
instant, most likely already making contacts in the contest you are trying
to start late and unprepared.

2) AGAIN, N1MM+ is FREE, NOT COMMERCIAL. Shouting intended.

The team of developers et al putting out MM+ **donate** their time and
effort, and have managed to create a stellar **non-commercial** product.
They have stated that to create a parallel product for Mac platforms is
beyond their intentions and resources. Having had a few conversations, that
really does seem a fair and intelligent decision. For them, to keep from
wasting precious volunteer resources on keeping up with OS perturbations
not related to the product, their development platform and single chosen OS
need to be as stable as possibly can be. They do seem open to a tweak here
and there for problems served up **completely analyzed and solved** in the
run-it-on-a-windows-emulator world.

I worked for SAS Institute for 20 years, where SAS' various products
simultaneously supported IBM mainframes, traditional UNIX platforms, PC
operating systems, Windows, for a while OS-2, and various PC versions of
UNIX. For those two decades, I worked in the mainframe section of that
effort. Maintaining that dozen OS parallelism was an **enormous** task,
**grotesquely** complicated, never-endingly rocked by perturbations,
revisions and screw-ups from OS and driver programmers, soaking up hundreds
of employees (really, hundreds), some thirty-odd of them requiring a
peculiar necessarily company-grown skill set that was impossible to hire
for off the open programmer market. Never allow yourself to perceive
difficulty or delay on, or refusal of, multi-platform support as some
dereliction. There, especially for free volunteer efforts, until you have
worked a mile in their shoes, you are simply not qualified to give
criticism.

3) Even compared to many commercial products, N1MM+ is remarkably
responsive in general, particularly in keeping up with changes in the
contesting arena. They even developed a way for the USER to create a
contest script which the logger will run, allowing many tiny contests, like
our annual rules-revised-yet-again PVRC on-the-air reunion, to roll their
own.

4) DO JOIN THE MM REFLECTOR. It is a great bunch over there. Many of us
there have worked through all the same newby confusions. We get it, we
understand, we have ourselves suffered total confusion, and we will help
ease you into the RTFM :>) What is politely tolerated and supported OT on
Elecraft (thank you Eric) is the main drag on MM. There are **many**
Elecraft owners on the MM reflector. You will find call signs common to
both Elecraft and the MM reflector.

ALSO, it might just be that you are the first to separate out a bug, and if
you do not post there, it remains hidden to the only group who **can** and
**do want** to actually fix it. They are **not** scanning the Elecraft
reflector for MM+ bugs.

73, Guy K2AV

On Saturday, July 9, 2016, Dauer, Edward <edauer at law.du.edu> wrote:

> Unfortunately it is still not available for Mac, and the developers seem
> hesitant about using a Windows emulator on an Apple computer.  Below is a
> clip taken from the N1MM + website today.  Does anyone have any more
> current info?
>
> -----------
> 12. Is there any chance of a cross-platform version for Linux or Mac users?
>
> No. Some users have reported varying degrees of success running N1MM
> Logger on top of Windows emulators on Mac (Dave, K6WDE/KH6) and Linux
> clients. Although we wish them the best of luck in their endeavors, this is
> not a configuration that the Dev Team can support
>
> ------------
>
> Ted, KN1CBR
>
>
>
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 16:39:37 -0400
> From: "Chester Alderman" <aldermant at windstream.net>
> To: "'Jim GM'" <jim.gmforum at gmail.com>, "'Elecraft'"
>         <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and N1MM F-Keys
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> N1MM is not even supported anymore! If that is what you are using, you are
> making a mistake? N1MM Plus, which was released in early 2014 is the
> current
> supported contest program and it has thousands of very happy users, all
> with
> various PC's and rigs, and the program has been acclaimed as being one of
> the best contest programs. I have been using N1MM + for many years with
> both
> of my K3's and the ONLY problem I have had with it has always been
> self-induced user issues. If you enjoy contesting with Elecraft (and most
> any other manufacturer's equipment) you would find extremely good support
> from the authors of N1MM Plus. Just bad-mouthing a good product produces a
> dim view of the writer.
>
> 73,
> Tom - W4BQF
>
>
>
>
>
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