[Elecraft] suggested PC???

Barry LaZar k3ndm at comcast.net
Tue Jan 5 23:00:40 EST 2016


Kevin,
     I ran into a number of areas that caused some real problems. One was 
trying to use a virtual serial port on one Mac mini and the other had a 
problem with the network interface. None of this was a problem with 
Windows. Running PowerSDR for a Flex3000 was initially a problem as the 
Firewire driver needed something that Apple didn't have. It would have 
been significantly easier to have set up on a PC with Firewire.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

------ Original Message ------
From: "kevino z" <z_kevino at hotmail.com>
To: "Brian Denley" <b.denley at comcast.net>
Cc: "Barry LaZar" <k3ndm at comcast.net>; "Randy Cook" <k6crcus at gmail.com>; 
elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Sent: 1/5/2016 10:33:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

>Yeah, another Mac user here that easily runs most Windows apps in a VM 
>when needed. I have also used boot camp when the app is critical, for 
>example SDR#. I can not understand the statement that Bootcamp has 
>driver issues as when you run the Bootcamp assistant, it has the 
>drivers put on an memory stick. But either way, when you run BootCamp, 
>Windows just sees an intel based machine, no different than if it was a 
>non Apple hardware device.
>I have yet to come across one single ham radio tool / app that didn't 
>run flawlessly in either Parallel's running a Win 7 VM, or as stated 
>above, Bootcamp.
>I will state the obvious, when in the Windows side, you are still 
>vulnerable to all of the attacks typically going after MS, Adobe, 
>etc...
>Not an endorsement for Apple, but I hate when folks do not recommend a 
>Mac when they probably have never owned one.
>-Kevin (KK4YEL)
>
>
>No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large 
>number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced !
>
>>  On Jan 5, 2016, at 22:04, Brian Denley <b.denley at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>  My i7 iMac runs Windows 7 as well as OSX.  With 32 Gb of memory, I 
>>can run any Windows or Apple applications.  I don't have a K3 but the 
>>iMac runs my K2 and FT-950 applications with no issues whatsoever.  I 
>>can upgrade to Win 10 for free but I dislike it very much.
>>
>>  Brian
>>  KB1VBF
>>  Sent from my iPad
>>
>>>  On Jan 5, 2016, at 9:26 PM, Barry LaZar <k3ndm at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Randy,
>>>    I seriously do not recommend this approach. I have been working 
>>>with a friend who has been working on a Mac Mini, actually he has 
>>>two. He has been trying to do an integrated station using HRD, 
>>>FLDIGI, and a few other things. These are Windows based and he has 
>>>been using Boot Camp to get to Windows. He discovered that there are 
>>>driver issues and a few other things the prevent easy set up to do 
>>>what he wants. And to compound the insult, his second Mac Mini does 
>>>does not set up like his first.
>>>
>>>    Most of the really good software that makes for full integration 
>>>easy has been written for a Windows platform. As this is the case, I 
>>>suggest an I5 with lots of memory running Windows 10. In the end, 
>>>this is cost effective and will keep your blood pressure in bounds. 
>>>As an illustration, I run Win4K3 for radio control and spectrum 
>>>display, Com0com for port replication, Hamradio Deluxe for general 
>>>logging and uploading to eQSL and LoTW, CW Skimmer. I switch out CW 
>>>Skimmer for FLDIGI, and during a contest, I use N1MM+ in place of 
>>>HRD. My experience has taught me to not use an Apple base system for 
>>>this situation. However, there are other collections of S/W, but I 
>>>expect the integration my not be as easy.
>>>
>>>  73,
>>>  Barry
>>>  K3NDM
>>>
>>>  ------ Original Message ------
>>>  From: "Randy Cook" <k6crcus at gmail.com>
>>>  To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>>  Sent: 1/5/2016 8:35:48 PM
>>>  Subject: [Elecraft] suggested PC???
>>>
>>>>  Consider an Apple Mac. On the Apple website, you can get a iMac or 
>>>>MacBook Air ‘refurbished’. After years of dealing with viruses, 
>>>>blown updates, buggy software, etc. on work computers, I come home 
>>>>to a 5 year old MacBook Air machine that just works and will 
>>>>probably run forever. I like MacLoggerDX for station 
>>>>control/logging, but others have their favorite.
>>>>  As to value, I just sold an iMac desktop machine that my son didn’t 
>>>>need anymore. He is at college and has a laptop. It was 6 years old 
>>>>and I got 40% of the price I paid new for it on eBay. If it were a 6 
>>>>year old PC, I would have had to pay a toxic waste fee to get rid of 
>>>>it.
>>>>
>>>>  73
>>>>
>>>>  Randy Cook - K6CRC
>>>>  k6crcus at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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