[Elecraft] Amp or tuner / Chicken or Egg

[tnnyswy at yahoo.com]

Not even 10 post yet, and the subject has already morphed into something else.The OP asked which of the two should he install first.How did this become X length of coax, or having a Resonant antenna?OR! Being Lazy?
((((73)))) Milverton / W9MMS. 
 


      From: Michael Walker <va3mw at portcredit.net>
 To: "Elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 4:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amp or tuner / Chicken or Egg
   
As a wise ham told me.  What do you need a tuner for?

Don't be lazy, fix your antennas. If they aren't broken, then build
resonate antennas.  They just work the best.

Mike va3mw


On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Gerald Manthey <kc6cnn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Why is 10' to 15' of coax  what you would want if using a tuner in the
> shack? I know about loses in really long runs, but why 10 to 15 feet?
> Thanks asking to learn not criticizing.
> Gerald
>
> > On Feb 17, 2016, at 3:31 PM, Jim Rodenkirch <rodenkirch_llc at msn.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Gary - depends on your antenna and how you feed it.
> >
> > If you intend to feed a multi-band antenna with open wire line, you'll
> need
> > some sort of tuner at the point where you transition from open wire to
> coax:
> >
> >  - if you plan on doing that out near the base of your antenna (the most
> > efficient spot) then save your
> >    money and purchase an auto tuner, e.g., an LDG Z11 ProII, and place
> it
> > at the point where the open
> >    wire line transitions to coaxial feed.
> >  - if you plan on doing that inside the shack and can keep the coaxial
> run
> > short, the internal auto tuner
> >    would work, albeit you could employ an LDG Z11 ProII there as well.
> >
> > If you plan on feeding any multi band antenna with coax of a length
> longer
> > than 10' to 15' an auto tuner inside the shack isn't worth much -- place
> an
> > LDG Z11 ProII style auto tuner at the base of the antenna, 'tween the
> > coaxial fee line and the antenna feed point and call it a day.
> >
> > If you plan on taking the K3S on portable trips....its auto tuner wud be
> 'da
> > way to go, as long as you keep coaxial runs 'tween the K3S and the
> antenna
> > feed point short...."short" means < 10' to 15' or so.
> >
> > 72 de Jim R. K9JWV
> >
> >
> >
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