[Elecraft] I am officially a HAM!!!

Tue Feb 9 16:42:07 EST 2016

Congratulations, Clay! Welcome to the greatest hobby on earth. Hope to work you down the bands sometime.

73 de,

--Ian
Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik.ian at gmail.com
10-10 #74624, North Georgia Chapter #2038
PODXS 070 #1962
K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Clay Autery
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:58 AM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] I am officially a HAM!!!

As of sometime yesterday, 02/08/2016, I was granted my Amateur Radio License with General privileges.

Thank you to everyone who had a hand in making this possible.  I am quite happy and yes, a little proud, too.

In just a few hours, I will take possession of my Elecraft K3s and P3 components.
I have two super selfless, super-experienced, super-patient operators who've taken an interest in me.
And I have TWO local clubs available to me from whose members I can learn and through which I can contribute to the hobby and my community.

My cup truly runneth over...  Thank you, Lord!

73,
Clay, KG5LKV

On 2/9/2016 9:06 AM, Robert Nobis wrote:
> Hi Bob McGraw,
>
> I agree, except on one point: I’s say 90%, rather than 75%, of the stuff we use and methods employed would put most of the station stuff in the trash.
>
> 73,
>
>
> Bob Nobis - N7RJN
> n7rjn at nobis.net
>
>
>> On Feb 9, 2016, at 08:01, Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net> wrote:
>>
>> I'm one of the other Bob's or Robert's........
>>
>> Since the assembly of coax wound around a toroid doughnut style bobbin is typically not exposed to vibration, such as might exist in an airplane, boat or space vehicle, the use of a solid conductor coax such as RG-303 would not seem to be of concern.  The more important point and my experience and as related by others, the use of coax which has foam dielectric in a tight radius bend has been proven or shown to be problematic.    As to if the manufactures bending radius dimension is being violated, I find to be of little concern.
>>
>> After all, as a rule, hams are noted for pushing things to the limit and then some and getting buy with it.  If hams choose to "stick to the rules 100% in all aspects of their stations"............I'd say 75% of the stuff we use and methods employed would put most of the station stuff in the trash.
>>
>> 73
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/9/2016 8:45 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
>>> Hi Bob, et al,
>>>
>>> Thank you all for your careful attention.
>>>
>>> I read it wrong, as several have pointed out overnight. I transposed 
>>> that to a percentage in my memory after reading it. One of the 
>>> reasons for referring people to the original material in these 
>>> cases. Someone will get it right.
>>>
>>> That makes it two and a half hairs :>)  Doesn't appear to change the 
>>> argument. To me anyway the method is still a crude measurement 
>>> instead of watching a wide frequency scan while bending the cable 
>>> along with other performance specific measurements.
>>>
>>> I still would not use the solid center conductor versions 
>>> (RG142/303) on a winding.
>>>
>>> 73, Guy K2AV
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 9, 2016, Robert Nobis <n7rjn at nobis.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Guy,
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure how you arrived at the “2/1000 of an inch” figure 
>>>> from the ANSI spec? The spec actually says “A change in ovality 
>>>> from a given sample’s initial measured value of 0.010 inches or 
>>>> more (> 0.010) represents the point of non-acceptable bending performance.”
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bob Nobis - N7RJN
>>>> n7rjn at nobis.net <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','n7rjn at nobis.net');>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 8, 2016, at 18:01, Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av.guy at gmail.com 
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','k2av.guy at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I also suggest that everyone carefully study the ANSI standard 
>>>> until it is clear what they are doing mechanically and see what 
>>>> they are actually
>>>> measuring:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.scte.org/documents/pdf/standards/ANSI_SCTE%2039%202007.p
>>>> df
>>>>
>>>> The method of measuring is in section 4. They are looking for a 
>>>> limit of 1% surface deformity when bending.
>>>>
>>>> In the case of RG400 with .195 inch OD, that would be 2/1000 of an 
>>>> inch (yes, that's three zeros, two one thousandths of an inch) 
>>>> bending deformity at the surface of the teflon jacket, or half the 
>>>> thickness of an average human hair.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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