[Elecraft] Feedline loss w/wo tuner

[Mel Farrer]

While this not about feedline loss.  But, Don brings up a point about antennas in general that cover all bands with a ~50 match.   I have only tried two.  The discone and the log periodic for 20 Meters and up.  The discone wins on footprint and the log winds on gain/directivity.  But is much bigger.  Along came SteppIR.
Mel, K6KBE


      From: Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com>
 To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 12:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Feedline loss w/wo tuner
   
True, the reasons for an ATU are not all associated with feedline loss.

One thing that is often overlooked in these discussions is that older 
tube type transmitters had an adjustable output network which had a 
sizable range for matching antennas.  You would 'dip the plate' and 
adjust the 'loading' until you could feed the antenna efficiently.  With 
that, one did not have to pay much attention to SWR or the feedpoint 
impedance.  The PA output network did the job of matching the plate load 
resistance to whatever was connected to the network output (the antenna).

Today's transmitters need to see a low SWR because they were designed to 
operate into a 50 ohm load.  The adjustable elements of the transmitter 
output have been moved from the transmitter into the ATU because there 
is nothing to adjust in the transmitter other than the band and VFO.

If all your antennas present a 50 ohm load on each band - and across the 
span of those bands, no ATU is needed at all, but that requires many 
tuned antennas.  Not everyone has that luxury.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/27/2016 2:52 PM, Ken K6MR wrote:
> Somewhere in the past hams have become obsessed with SWR.  With a 2:1 SWR on a feedline with a matched loss of 3.0 dB (which is a bit extreme) there is an additional 0.35 dB of loss. It’s just not big enough to worry about.
>
> Of course now that we all have solid state finals 2:1 can be a problem. But a tuner in the shack is a completely reasonable and efficient way to deal with it.
>

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