[Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 144, Issue 12

[Doug Person]

The Pi and BB can indeed run Java and pretty much anything else that 
normally runs on linux.

Doug -- K0DXV

On 4/9/2016 1:50 PM, Dave B via Elecraft wrote:
> On 08/04/16 23:36, elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net wrote:
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 12:08:49 -0600
>> From: Ken G Kopp<kengkopp at gmail.com>
>> To:elecraft at mailman.qth.net,KX3 at yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Utilities
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> Wayne and Eric:
>>
>> PLEASE don't cave in to the requests of those on the reflectors who are
>> asking
>> you to disclose the "genetic makeup" of their radios by publishing the
>> software
>> that would enable anyone to modify how a given radio operates.
>>
>> I see this as no different than a breeder of a thoroughbred breed of dog
>> opening
>> the pen and letting all comers mate with the females.  You would end up
>> with a
>> "contaminated" breed.
>>
>> I envision an increased workload at Elecraft in dealing with the 
>> customers
>> who
>> manage to "mess up" their radio's "brains" and want help in restoring 
>> them
>> to
>> the original state.  Nothing but non-profit overhead.
>>
>> I would be wary ... read "never" ... of buying a used Elecraft 
>> product for
>> fear
>> that it's genetic makeup had been altered and really wasn't an Elecraft
>> anymore.
>>
>> Perhaps I'm not understanding something ...
>>
>> 73!
>>
>> Ken Kopp - K0PP
>> Full K-line, KX3, PX3, KXPA100, K2/100, W2's, etc.
> Hi.
>
> It's not the internal secrets of the radios that is wanting to be 
> revealed, just the ability to run the firmware maintenance utilities 
> (I'd also include the XG3 tool in the list) on a non ix86 platform, 
> such as the Pi.
>
> It could be done independently, as it's trivial to intercept the data 
> flowing between the PC and rig, then write from scratch something to 
> do the same.   That could then be released as open source so could 
> then be built (compiled) to be used on other platforms.  I'm sure 
> there are some reading this list that have the skills (I don't, but I 
> have looked at the serial traffic between rig and software.)
>
> In the case of the Pi, it already runs Linux.   Plus there are already 
> Linux versions of the K3/KX3 and XG3 tools, but as they are not open 
> source, they can't be built to run on the ARM equipped Pi's or Beagle 
> Bones by us "the paying users" of the equipment.  Shame really.
>
> It would be relatively easy for the authors concerned to create an ARM 
> compatible Linux version, but that takes time to do and importantly 
> test and perfect, as there are always subtle differences to trip over, 
> that and "They" don't have Pi's or BBB's in their shack's, to test on.
>
> A "Command line" version of just the firmware up-loader tool's would 
> indeed be a fine compromise for many.   Such things can always be 
> wrapped in a simple GUI or desktop launcher for those who suffer 
> fright of black screens and just text!  ;-)
>
> The 64/32 bit thing is also possible to overcome, in the same way as 
> x86/ARM cpu compatibility, but that does mean potentially multiple 
> versions of the same tool's!
>
> I don't know if the Pi (or BB's) can have a Java run time installed.   
> If so, the Elecraft tools could be ported to Java, then that can be 
> run on anything that supports a JRE.   Many many similar tools for 
> other (non radio) and some Ham products are run that way.
>
> Anyway, add my name/call to the list of "interested parties" in 
> regards to Pi compatible (however done) Elecraft support tools.
>
> 73.
>
> Dave G0WBX.
>
>
>
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