[Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison?

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Wes (N7WS) <wes at triconet.org> wrote:

> Seems to me that he's just trying to explain himself.
>

And in explaining, he actually highlights the issues that clearly
contradict his position. With all due respect...

Personally I have a problem with handicapping or dumbing down measurements
just so they fly under a known weakness of certain classes of SDR. That
turns the measurements into a perverse "radio Special Olympics" designed to
not embarrass handicapped radios. Either the radio can stand the mustard at
the high levels with all the rest of the radios or they can't. An RX
hitting a wall at a given point because there is now A/D clipping, or for
any other reason, is a valid should-be-reported characteristic of the RX.
Put it out there like that. No problem with putting down the number and
adding why. Just don't tell why and then NOT tell the number by burying
that decision in "adjusted" testing parameters.

Not every one has to put up with the kind of signal levels found at
multi/multi contest stations or with the overload from monster HF antennas
or a naval ship-to-shore station with Godzilla transmitters in the area or
other hams effectively next door. Some in common-enough better
circumstances will have an absolute wonderful time with less than a
top-of-the-list radio, even if there is a 10 dB weakness on some
measurement. Put it out there and let people chose. They can read the
numbers for themselves and figure out what they mean for themselves. Then
the sales receipts can inform companies if they need to kick their research
and engineering departments to make some improvements.

People who want the radio with the top specs (whether they actually NEED
that or not is a separate issue) are going to be very suspicious of
dumbed-down measurements. And once the word on dumbing-down is out, it's
out, no recalling.

Just tell it like it is, no pulling of punches. Tough tests are what
improve the craft. For technical reasons, Elecraft is the best thing to
happen to ham radio's radios in quite a while, and that's *all* brands I'm
talking about. Nothing like getting your b*tt whupped in the market place
or high-profile contest arenas to tell you it's time to invest in some
improvements that clearly a very big crowd cares about.

A test designed to make everyone feel good about what they bought is like
T-ball for the tots. T-ball is really great for the little kids. Love to
watch 'em. But the top of the Sherwood list is the major leagues. There are
those that will make the "post-season" and those that will go home. In the
playoffs you make the pitches, you make the plays, you get the hits, or you
go home. No underhand pitches because the batter is hurt and can't swing
hard.

73, Guy


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> On 9/15/2015 6:04 AM, Jim Bolit wrote:
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>> Adam,
>> You are digging a deeper hole...........
>> JimW6AIM
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