[Elecraft] OT: Bird Wattmeter "meter failures"

Don Wilhelm w3fpr at embarqmail.com
Sun Nov 22 18:08:02 EST 2015


Another verification that *all* problems are not the fault of the DUT 
(Device Under Test), and can often be a failure of the test equipment.
Do be prepared to check the test gear prior to taking measurements.

While that is not practical in most cases, do be suspicious of your 
measurements until you have taken steps sufficient to validate your test 
setup.
I do not know how to tell you how to validate your test setup in detail, 
because that will vary depending on the equipment used, but what I am 
saying is that you should not trust the indication of any measurement 
device at face value.  Verify that the measurement device is giving 
proper indications as the fist order of business - or at least second 
order when measurements begin to "look funny".

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/22/2015 5:46 PM, Robert Harmon wrote:
> Thanks for all the info on diagnosing the intermittent problem with my 
> Bird 43 guys !
> I discovered their was a poor connection where the RG58 from the meter 
> movement
> connects to the element.  As mentioned there is a tiny spring in the 
> connector on the end of the
> cable.  It didnt look dirty visually but I cleaned it with some 
> contact cleaner and now is fine.
> It was mentioned to change over to a BNC connector to eliminate 
> problems.  I assume we mean an
> adapter from the bird element connection point to a BNC.  Then add a 
> BNC on the end of the short
> RG58 from the meter movement.   Anyway it is working now, thanks guys !
>
> 73,
> Bob
> K6UJ
>
>
>
> On 11/22/15 2:13 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
>> Ron mentions various well taken points regarding the Bird 43 meter 
>> series.  This also applies to almost all watt meters as well, and 
>> that is the power calibration is relative to a 50 ohm load only. Any 
>> other load Z will introduce errors in the meter accuracy and indication.
>>
>> At the same time, the ratio measurement for forward power and 
>> reflected power will always be correct in that each value will be 
>> measured with the same degree of error.  Thus using this 
>> information,  one can accurately calculate the SWR using the forward 
>> power indicated and the reflected power indicated. Where as, absolute 
>> values will not necessarily be accurate under these conditions.
>>
>> 73
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>> On 11/22/2015 11:38 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
>>> Bird instruments specs a Bird 43 at plus or minus 5% of full scale. 
>>> If you have a calibrated 1000 watt slug and meter it will read 
>>> within 100 watts of the real power. What many people miss is that 
>>> the possible 100 watt error is constant over the range of the meter, 
>>> so measuring 500 watts the meter will indicate something between 400 
>>> and 600 watts and at 100 watts the reading can be off by a full 100%!
>>
>>
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