From vk1zzgary at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 01:22:55 2015
From: vk1zzgary at gmail.com (Gary Gregory)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 15:22:55 +1000
Subject: [Elecraft] FW: K3s question
In-Reply-To: <556BD802.7040501@foothill.net>
References: <14d54807bd2-646b-26d4e@webprd-m38.mail.aol.com>
	<555571D0.1010109@embarqmail.com>
	<39B58BB2-1CE7-4C14-9850-CB228AA48497@mchsi.com>
	<E9955F55-2E1C-4B39-AD3D-DE208BB236BC@me.com>
	<88D04C31-FB3A-4FCB-9FD6-776E2E8136EC@elecraft.com>
	<001e01d091ef$3cf0ce10$b6d26a30$@gmail.com>
	<70A4C7C1-11D5-4B18-85E5-B825EABFD659@elecraft.com>
	<ndimlat9fu5kq7g6idk99njo3lsoqagnc2@4ax.com>
	<6ED4B745-8FE1-40AA-93BE-F768EA9BD296@elecraft.com>
	<07e301d09be4$29f70e10$7de52a30$@gmail.com>
	<CAK+fsRVPGF04=aTNqp84M_7D8=aErDcKNSSSC_cq-nC4AkZ_5g@mail.gmail.com>
	<556BD802.7040501@foothill.net>
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I would worry Ken would not get supper too often...:-)

Gary

On 1 June 2015 at 13:56, Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:

> You do this with software??  I had visions of a Betsy Ross sitting in her
> parlor doing my K2 case by hand. :-)
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
> - www.cqp.org
>
> On 5/31/2015 2:01 PM, Rose wrote:
>
>> The question has already been answered and "K3S" is now programmed into
>> the
>> embroidery software.  (:-)
>>
>
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From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Mon Jun  1 07:15:20 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (John K3TN via Elecraft)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 04:15:20 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?
In-Reply-To: <556602C4.6000506@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <1432643978736-7603508.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<1432721090798-7603553.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<556602C4.6000506@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <1433157320137-7603663.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hi, Jim - I'm a big fan of your guidance on bonding/shielding. There aren't a
lot of variables to play with between the K3 Mini and the Remote Rig - I did
all the usual things that have solved hum in the past, but didn't see any
improvement. I'm going to run the Mini off of a battery, see if that solves
the TX hum - but I mostly do CW, so haven't gotten back to it.

The RX audio problem is pure attenuation, I can crank up the gain on the RRC
to overcome that attenuation in the Mini audio path but then I'm likely to
be introducing distortion in the RRC.

73 John K3TN



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From cyaffey at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 09:15:33 2015
From: cyaffey at gmail.com (Carl Yaffey)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 09:15:33 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 for sale
Message-ID: <E1DCB898-3FCB-4A6D-AD39-A44F03C71788@gmail.com>

I really thought all items from K8IDN?s estate had been sold. But we found a KX1.

It?s in a Pelican case (model 1200) with the plug-in paddle, an external paddle, ear buds, internal battery, a speaker, and an external battery. It covers 40, 30, and 20 meters and has the internal ATU. New price for all but the external paddle, battery and speaker would be around $630. I?m asking $500.
Pictures here:  http://www.carl-yaffey.com/estate_sale.html <http://www.carl-yaffey.com/estate_sale.html>

Carl Yaffey  K8NU
Recording studio.
cyaffeyNO_SPAM at gmail.com 
614 268 6353, Columbus OH
http://www.carl-yaffey.com
http://www.grassahol.com
http://www.bluesswing.com










From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Mon Jun  1 10:20:24 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 10:20:24 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 TX delay
In-Reply-To: <BLU179-W807E6BB242DA8C8C33E086C1B70@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU179-W807E6BB242DA8C8C33E086C1B70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <556C6A28.7080701@embarqmail.com>

If one insists on using an unmodified slow amplifier, yes a sequencer 
would help if the use of the K3 TX Inhibit is used to delay the RF 
output.  Use of that may 'chop' the leading CW elements or initial 
syllables on SSB and other audio modes, but it can work for the benefit 
of preventing hot switching of the amp.

Given that you would have to build or purchase the sequencer in order to 
accomplish that feat, I would suggest that doing a QSK mod to the 
amplifier would be the better solution - resulting in good QSK as well 
as reducing the 'relay clattering' in the shack.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/31/2015 12:09 PM, Jeff Cathrow wrote:
> Perhaps you could use a sequencer such as the DX Engineering TVS-1 to give you more delay time.
>   
> I recently bought one to sequence my DXE NCC-1, a receive antenna preamp, my K3 and my KPA500.  While I haven't yet figured out how to set the correct delay times for everything it appears to be a well-built unit.  Once we finish moving here I'll get back to sorting it out.
>   
> Good luck and I hope my suggestion helps.  (SSB Electronic also makes fine sequencers but they are more pricy than DXE, IIRC).
>   
>


From cyaffey at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 18:31:22 2015
From: cyaffey at gmail.com (Carl Yaffey)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 18:31:22 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 sold
Message-ID: <122359E2-ADC0-48C2-A3B8-FCD62D1FC67C@gmail.com>

Gone gone gone.

Carl Yaffey  K8NU
Recording studio.
cyaffeyNO_SPAM at gmail.com 
614 268 6353, Columbus OH
http://www.carl-yaffey.com
http://www.grassahol.com
http://www.bluesswing.com










From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Tue Jun  2 00:04:29 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Skip Davis via Elecraft)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 04:04:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] XG-2 For Sale
Message-ID: <247760202.1617962.1433217869769.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

I have a XG-2 for sale that I am not using I would like $75.00 shipped.This is the three band 80/40/20 meter test oscillator/S meter calibrator.Please email me direct as I receive the list in digest format, to skipnc9o at yahoo dot com.
Thanks, Skip NC9O

From riese-k3djc at juno.com  Tue Jun  2 11:00:51 2015
From: riese-k3djc at juno.com (riese-k3djc at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 11:00:51 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 no xmit, no receive?
Message-ID: <AABLY5TMUALN62XS@smtpout03.vgs.untd.com>


On Sat, 30 May 2015 10:34:31 -0500 James Wilson <w4rks73 at gmail.com>
writes:
> Tom,
> 
> Since you receive white noise, before you dive into
> the K3, consider that there is an item that is  common
> to all three antenna   inputs. - The BNC connector
> and coax to the BudiPole.
> 
> Try another independent antenna into the antenna
> input you have active. Just a few feet of wire as an
> antenna will give you some signal reception.
> 
> Then try transmitting into a dummy load using a
> completely different coax and connector.
> 
> Just suggestions.
> 
> 73, Jim Wilson
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From Louis.LaCour at arlaw.com  Tue Jun  2 11:12:17 2015
From: Louis.LaCour at arlaw.com (Louis C LaCour Jr)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:12:17 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Question (after 9-year hiatus)
Message-ID: <1387F6F18239944583A18E52818E5B230DA67257@BREEXCHMB02.arlaw.com>

Hello all:

Started building a K2 back in 2005, and had to set it aside. So now I?m back at it after a LONG break. ?

Anyway?.

I?m at the point of first power up, and everything checks out except for one thing: I have two (vertical) LCD segments that are not lighting up (where the ?L? would be in the ?ELECRAFT? power-up message.?

I?d appreciate suggestions on how to diagnose and correct this before I move on to other areas of assembly. I?m hoping it?s not a defective LCD unit.

Thanks!

_______________________
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KE5GIU




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From hhoyt at mebtel.net  Tue Jun  2 11:21:31 2015
From: hhoyt at mebtel.net (Howard Hoyt)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 11:21:31 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Rose is back!
Message-ID: <556DC9FB.70701@mebtel.net>

Hi Rose!

Fantastic to see you here again, I know many of us fans of yours are elated!!

If you look at the picture here:
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3.htm

As somebody already stated it looks like a capital "S" but in a smaller size.

Cheers & 73,

Howie - WA4PSC



Rose Kopp posted:
>>Have noted some confusion on the reflector....
>>
>>Should I use an upper or lower case "S" when embroidering items
>>for the "new" K3s / K3S ?


From w7aqk at cox.net  Tue Jun  2 12:20:10 2015
From: w7aqk at cox.net (dyarnes)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 09:20:10 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 TX DELAY
Message-ID: <1E196C41EB234A61B49B92920D02C11D@TDYDell>

Jim and All,

Not sure if you were really including Dick, K4XU, in your comment about 
those who are SK.  Dick is very much alive and kicking, and living now in 
Bend, Oregon!!!  Dick is a very dedicated CW op, so you can be assured that 
QSK was a big deal on his "must do" list.

I'm not all that amp savvy, but I do know that, except for Ten-Tec and maybe 
a few others, earlier amp manufacturers were not all that concerned about 
good QSK.  The "MS company" is now offering QSK models, but not sure how 
good it is.  I had an ALS-600 for a while, and it was awful.  Fortunately, 
AD5X came up with a fairly simple mod to convert it.  I did the mod, and it 
made a world of difference--made the amp a lot quieter too!  As I said, I 
don't know much about amps, but considering how simple (and effective) the 
AD5X mod was for the ALS-600, I don't understand why it was so difficult for 
all amp makers to properly include that feature.  It sure tells me that they 
didn't take the CW mode very seriously.  It was the same way with 
transceivers for quite a while.  Only Ten-Tec seemed to give a hoot!

Anyway, I'm now a K-Line user, and happy as a clam!  I guess some of the 
real QRQ folks were having some issues, but think that has now been 
effectively solved.  It sure is nice to have equipment made by a company 
that listens--and reacts!

Dave W7AQK



From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Tue Jun  2 15:35:50 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 15:35:50 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Question (after 9-year hiatus)
In-Reply-To: <1387F6F18239944583A18E52818E5B230DA67257@BREEXCHMB02.arlaw.com>
References: <1387F6F18239944583A18E52818E5B230DA67257@BREEXCHMB02.arlaw.com>
Message-ID: <556E0596.80202@embarqmail.com>

Louis,

That is normally a result of one or more unsoldered connections or a 
poorly soldered connections on either Front Panel U1 or the LCD itself.
Check the LCD leads first - you might want to solder them from the top 
of the board if you do not see solder wicked up onto the leads.

U1 is a little more difficult since the leads are hidden by the LCD.  
The first check is on pin 1 of the socket - peer under the LCD to see if 
pin 1 is well soldered.
If the pin is not soldered, do not try to solder it from the normal 
solder side, but carve away a bit of the plastic on the socket adjacent 
to the pin and solder it from the same side the socket is mounted on.

You may be able to inspect the other U1 pins by looking between the LCD 
leads.
The "L" in Elecraft is digit 7 and the two vertical segments are "E" and 
"F", and those correspond to U1 pin 20.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/2/2015 11:12 AM, Louis C LaCour Jr wrote:
> Hello all:
>
> Started building a K2 back in 2005, and had to set it aside. So now I?m back at it after a LONG break. ?
>
> Anyway?.
>
> I?m at the point of first power up, and everything checks out except for one thing: I have two (vertical) LCD segments that are not lighting up (where the ?L? would be in the ?ELECRAFT? power-up message.?
>
> I?d appreciate suggestions on how to diagnose and correct this before I move on to other areas of assembly. I?m hoping it?s not a defective LCD unit.
>


From dhhdeh at comcast.net  Tue Jun  2 17:16:57 2015
From: dhhdeh at comcast.net (David and Dianne on Comcast)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:16:57 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: KXV3B in an Older K3
Message-ID: <556E1D49.5070602@comcast.net>

Hi Wayne and all at Elecraft.

My K3 circa 2/2008 was originally purchased 
without a KXV3.

I may be interested in the KXV3B for my K3 as the 
K3S FAQ's indicate is possible to do.

But the KXV3B manual now on the download page Rev. 
C dated May 27, 2015 does not mention anything 
about the new 12,10 and 6m preamp being built-in 
or how to activate or use it.

Can the KXV3B be used in an older K3 at this time 
or is a future firmware release needed first?

Or am I misunderstanding something?

Thanks,

73 de N1LQ-Dave

From k2mk at comcast.net  Tue Jun  2 17:40:37 2015
From: k2mk at comcast.net (Mike K2MK)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 14:40:37 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: KXV3B in an Older K3
In-Reply-To: <556E1D49.5070602@comcast.net>
References: <556E1D49.5070602@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1433281237534-7603674.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hi Dave,

If the K3 is running Beta MCU 5.26 then there is a new configuration setting
which applies when the KXV3B is installed. Here is the explanation from the
5.26 notes. 

* PREAMP 2 and CONFIG:PREAMP2 MENU ENTRY (KXV3B):  This menu entry is only
applicable if a KXV3B module is installed (supplied with the K3S). It also
only applies if the current band is 12, 10, or 6 meters. If PREAMP2 is set
to ON, then the PRE switch rotates through settings of OFF, PRE 1, and PRE 2
on the applicable band. PRE 2 turns on the low-noise preamp on the KXV3B
module (+20 dB, with a typical NF of -144 dBm on 12/10/6 meters). When PRE 2
is selected, the PRE icon will flash slowly. Note: Do not use an external
preamplifier (such as an Elecraft PR6 or PR6-10) when using the built-in
low-noise preamp (PRE 2). This would result in excessive gain.

Here are two posts made by Wayne:

On 5/21/2015 7:42 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>>> The addition of the low-noise amplifier for 12-6 meters is the only
>> change.
>>>> The module is compatible with either the K3 or K3S. The manual will 
>>>> be posted when it's complete.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Wayne
>>>> N6KR


On 5/22/2015 5:07 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> On May 22, 2015, at 12:41 PM, "N2TK, Tony" <tony.... at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Preamp 2, on the KXV3B, is in addition to the normal preamp (preamp 1).
But firmware will only let you turn on one or the other -- not both. When
preamp 2 is ON, it totally dominates the noise figure equation, so there's
no value in also turning on preamp 1. Preamp 2 has a gain of 20 dB, while
preamp 1 has a gain of 10 dB.
>
> To turn preamp 2 ON, you first have to enable it on one or more of the
applicable bands using the CONFIG:PREAMP2 menu entry. You can enable it on
12, 10, and 6 meters.
>
> Once preamp 2 is enabled, tapping PRE cycles through OFF/PRE1/PRE2 on the
applicable band. Other bands will only show OFF/PRE1.
>
> When PRE2 is selected, the PRE icon flashes slowly as a reminder.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR

73,
Mike K2MK



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From phils at riousa.com  Tue Jun  2 21:13:58 2015
From: phils at riousa.com (Phil Shepard)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 18:13:58 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] SSB net results from May 31, 2015
In-Reply-To: <82E69D72-A1CA-449D-BF57-84DEF950C18F@riousa.com>
References: <05BCEB8D-8761-4014-8F35-AE03BB3AB452@riousa.com>
	<82E69D72-A1CA-449D-BF57-84DEF950C18F@riousa.com>
Message-ID: <A8921129-6684-42E4-9DF1-72ED55F7CFD6@riousa.com>

Another noisy net, with 29 participants. 

Remember that I may not make it to the net this coming Sunday.  If not, I hope someone can fill in.

Here is the list of stations:

CALL		NAME		QTH		RIG

W4PFM		Paul			VA		K3		1673
WB9JNZ		Eric			IL		K3		4017
NC0JW		Jim			CO		KX3		1356
W4DML		Doug		TN		K3		6433
K8NU		Carl			OH		K3		7976
K4GCJ		Jerry		NC		K3		1597
N6JW		John		CA		K3		936
AD5IJ 		Howard		OR		KX3		5178	QRP
WW4JF		John		TN		K3		6185
WM6P		Steve		GA		K3		8166
W0SGM		Scott		IA		K3		8898
KN5L		John		TX		K3		4448
W7HD		Ron			AZ		KX3		6966	QRP
KF7JZH		Ron			ID		KX3		2262	QRP
W7QHD		Kurt			AZ		K2		1538
W4RKS		Jim			TX		K3		3618
W0CZ		Ken			ND		K3		457
KF5YBE		Lee			TX		K3		7771
KC5RY		George		TX		K3		5208
KA9KBD		Vic			IL		KX3		4382
KD5SPX		Wayne		TX		KX3		7450
KE7IHG		Steve		OR		KX3		7796
K7BRR/m	Bill			OR		K3		5545
K6WDE		Dave		CA		KX3		4599	QRP
W7JJL		John		WA		KX3		993
KE7HGE		Ken			WA		KX3		4540	QRP
KL7UW		Ed			AK		K3		4340
K4TM		Cary		VA		K3		3448
NS7P		Phil			OR		K3		1826

73,
Phil, NS7P


From sales at elecraft.com  Tue Jun  2 21:57:51 2015
From: sales at elecraft.com (Lisa Jones - Elecraft Sales)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 18:57:51 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] SeaPac and HamCom booth help
Message-ID: <556E5F1F.6020101@elecraft.com>

Elecraft will be attending both SeaPac in Seaside OR June 6-7 and

HamCom in Irving TX June 12-13

We would greatly appreciate any booth help that any of may be able to 
provide at either show.

If you are attending either show and would like to help our for a few 
hours either day then please email me directl so that I can have a 
volunteer badge ready for you.

Thank you,

Lisa

-- 
Lisa Jones
Elecraft, Inc.
(831) 763-4211


From rtavan at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 22:01:01 2015
From: rtavan at gmail.com (Rick Tavan N6XI)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 19:01:01 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Auto OFF on battery only suggestion
In-Reply-To: <4552FCF5-ED39-4FF2-8F65-F27DDF86D3A6@yahoo.co.uk>
References: <4552FCF5-ED39-4FF2-8F65-F27DDF86D3A6@yahoo.co.uk>
Message-ID: <CANVONALJ6coAR=28AKqn3K04stXjq=EvvibMj-LgMThhktKbAw@mail.gmail.com>

Good idea, David. I'd like that option, too.

/Rick N6XI

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:48 AM, David Anderson <gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> I wonder if the Auto OFF command could be enhanced so that it has an
> option so that it takes effect only if the KX3 is running from internal
> batteries?
>
> The only reason I set Auto OFF on is so that if I forget to turn it off
> while I have the rig on batteries it will switch off and not run them down.
> I like to leave the rig on continuously when running from an external
> source for stability and frequently come back to find it has switched off.
>
> Thanks for your consideration.
>
> 73
>
> David Anderson GM4JJJ
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From plambert at qa.com.au  Tue Jun  2 22:09:18 2015
From: plambert at qa.com.au (Peter Lambert)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 12:09:18 +1000
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Auto OFF on battery only suggestion
In-Reply-To: <CANVONALJ6coAR=28AKqn3K04stXjq=EvvibMj-LgMThhktKbAw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4552FCF5-ED39-4FF2-8F65-F27DDF86D3A6@yahoo.co.uk>
	<CANVONALJ6coAR=28AKqn3K04stXjq=EvvibMj-LgMThhktKbAw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004201d09da2$4e6be120$eb43a360$@qa.com.au>

Consider the use of an external battery pack.  Starts to get complicated.
Perhaps best the way it is and up to the operator to turn the feature on
when it's required.

The menu system is very quick and easy to use with a little familiarity.

73's Peter VK4JD

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rick
Tavan N6XI
Sent: Wednesday, 3 June 2015 12:01 PM
To: David Anderson
Cc: Elecraft Mailer
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Auto OFF on battery only suggestion

Good idea, David. I'd like that option, too.

/Rick N6XI

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:48 AM, David Anderson <gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> I wonder if the Auto OFF command could be enhanced so that it has an 
> option so that it takes effect only if the KX3 is running from 
> internal batteries?
>
> The only reason I set Auto OFF on is so that if I forget to turn it 
> off while I have the rig on batteries it will switch off and not run them
down.
> I like to leave the rig on continuously when running from an external 
> source for stability and frequently come back to find it has switched off.
>
> Thanks for your consideration.
>
> 73
>
> David Anderson GM4JJJ
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From dave at nk7z.net  Tue Jun  2 22:48:04 2015
From: dave at nk7z.net (David Cole)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 19:48:04 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] SeaPac and HamCom booth help
In-Reply-To: <556E5F1F.6020101@elecraft.com>
References: <556E5F1F.6020101@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <1433299684.7320.18.camel@nostromo.nk7z>

Hi,
I may be able to spend a pair of hours at Sea-Pac on Saturday...

Dave Cole
NK7Z

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On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 18:57 -0700, Lisa Jones - Elecraft Sales wrote:
> Elecraft will be attending both SeaPac in Seaside OR June 6-7 and
> 
> HamCom in Irving TX June 12-13
> 
> We would greatly appreciate any booth help that any of may be able to 
> provide at either show.
> 
> If you are attending either show and would like to help our for a few 
> hours either day then please email me directl so that I can have a 
> volunteer badge ready for you.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Lisa
> 


From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Tue Jun  2 23:58:20 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Joseph Baxley via Elecraft)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 20:58:20 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] [K2] EEPROM Problem?
Message-ID: <1433303900423-7603680.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hey!

I have an Elecraft K2, serial number 7535, with the following options
installed: KSB2, KNB2, KIO2, KAT2, KBT2, and K160RX.  I just installed the
K160RX board tonight after sitting on the kit for about a year and finally
set out to build it today.  Once I installed it I did the basic checks and
it is receiving on 160m and the board appears to work just fine.  The
problem is that I noticed that the rig now doesn't always remember it's
prior state if I power cycle it.  Previously, if I turned my K2 on, changed
frequency with the VFO knob, turned it off and turned it back on, it would
remember the frequency I had set it to.  Now it reverts to the frequency it
held when I last turned it on unless I do something like change the
operating mode at the new frequency.  In that case, it remembers the
frequency where I changed modes when I power-cycle the rig.  I do not
remember this behavior prior to installing the K160RX.  

Everything else about the rig seems to be working fine and the 160m board
seems to be working well.  I can receive, transmit, and use the receive
antenna.  

My question is: Is this an EEPROM problem, and if so, what is a likely cause
and how do I address it?  

Sincerely,

Joseph, KI4ITG



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From matt.vk2rq at gmail.com  Wed Jun  3 00:45:03 2015
From: matt.vk2rq at gmail.com (Matt Maguire)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 14:45:03 +1000
Subject: [Elecraft] [K2] EEPROM Problem?
In-Reply-To: <1433303900423-7603680.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1433303900423-7603680.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CAM9P-wCOG0oUm02Y+ME6ieqBkVq5zC_cX344nXuVhvY2KJADpQ@mail.gmail.com>

Maybe you are a bit hasty with the power switch?

When the move the VFO knob, the new frequency isn't written into the
EEPROM straight away, it will only be written if the knob stays still
for a certain period, or if you change another setting like operating
mode. This is to keep the number of writes to the EEPROM at a minimum.
I forget what the timeout is, maybe 10-12sec, but if you wait a bit
before turning the K2 off, it will hopefully retain your QRG.

73, Matt VK2RQ

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Joseph Baxley via Elecraft
<elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> Hey!
>
> I have an Elecraft K2, serial number 7535, with the following options
> installed: KSB2, KNB2, KIO2, KAT2, KBT2, and K160RX.  I just installed the
> K160RX board tonight after sitting on the kit for about a year and finally
> set out to build it today.  Once I installed it I did the basic checks and
> it is receiving on 160m and the board appears to work just fine.  The
> problem is that I noticed that the rig now doesn't always remember it's
> prior state if I power cycle it.  Previously, if I turned my K2 on, changed
> frequency with the VFO knob, turned it off and turned it back on, it would
> remember the frequency I had set it to.  Now it reverts to the frequency it
> held when I last turned it on unless I do something like change the
> operating mode at the new frequency.  In that case, it remembers the
> frequency where I changed modes when I power-cycle the rig.  I do not
> remember this behavior prior to installing the K160RX.
>
> Everything else about the rig seems to be working fine and the 160m board
> seems to be working well.  I can receive, transmit, and use the receive
> antenna.
>
> My question is: Is this an EEPROM problem, and if so, what is a likely cause
> and how do I address it?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Joseph, KI4ITG
>
>
>
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From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Wed Jun  3 00:52:03 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Joseph Baxley via Elecraft)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 21:52:03 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] [K2] EEPROM Problem?
In-Reply-To: <CAM9P-wCOG0oUm02Y+ME6ieqBkVq5zC_cX344nXuVhvY2KJADpQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1433303900423-7603680.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<CAM9P-wCOG0oUm02Y+ME6ieqBkVq5zC_cX344nXuVhvY2KJADpQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1433307123809-7603682.post@n2.nabble.com>

Matt,

I believe what you said is correct.  I was borrowing space in an electronics
lab tonight and was working quickly during the final install because others
were needing the space.  I have since tried waiting (it took me about a
minute on frequency) and it is writing to EEPROM correctly.  I had never
noticed this behavior before and was deeply puzzled.  Thank you for the
answer.

Regards,

Joseph, KI4ITG



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From repair at willcoele.com  Wed Jun  3 00:52:36 2015
From: repair at willcoele.com (wa9fvp)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 21:52:36 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3, noise during SSB TX
Message-ID: <1433307156274-7603683.post@n2.nabble.com>

Working with Craig at Elecraft, we determined that the TX noise was caused by
the MON turned on in SSB mode.  I'm trying to understand what's causing the
noise. The feed back path for the monitor would have to be internal to the
DSP software.  That is the mic audio A-D would have to be mixed with the
speaker's audio D-A converter. For some reason the mix is causing a high
level of digital noise that's fed to a third D-A (the output that feeds the
TX/IF).   Any thoughts from a DSP guru?

Jack WA9FVP
Willco Electronics.



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From w2blc at nycap.rr.com  Wed Jun  3 07:21:29 2015
From: w2blc at nycap.rr.com (Bill)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 07:21:29 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Linux rig control
Message-ID: <556EE339.3030903@nycap.rr.com>

I am looking for Linux software to control the K3. Currently I use an 
old version of HRD - which basically does what I want. HRD is a no go 
under Wine. I am totally uninterested in logging apps and similar - only 
desire rig control.

At this point I am running Linux Mint 17 on one machine and Win 10 
Preview on another.  Win 10 is filled with features - as in bloatware - 
that I do not need nor want. However, there are a few programs that I 
run that are Windows only types and have no serious clones available for 
Linux. HRD is one of these.

Any suggestions? My goal is to run only a single system - Linux or 
Windows. It makes it too fiddly to run two full systems. Dual boot and 
VMware solutions have been explored and dismissed. Rig control would go 
a long way toward making the change to Linux only.

Thanks,

Bill W2BLC K-Line

From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Wed Jun  3 07:53:16 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 07:53:16 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] [K2] EEPROM Problem?
In-Reply-To: <1433307123809-7603682.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1433303900423-7603680.post@n2.nabble.com>	<CAM9P-wCOG0oUm02Y+ME6ieqBkVq5zC_cX344nXuVhvY2KJADpQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1433307123809-7603682.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <556EEAAC.4010006@embarqmail.com>

Joseph,

If you want to store the current frequency without waiting, do a band 
change and then change back - the K2 will write the frequency to EEPROM 
on the band change.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/3/2015 12:52 AM, Joseph Baxley via Elecraft wrote:
> Matt,
>
> I believe what you said is correct.  I was borrowing space in an electronics
> lab tonight and was working quickly during the final install because others
> were needing the space.  I have since tried waiting (it took me about a
> minute on frequency) and it is writing to EEPROM correctly.  I had never
> noticed this behavior before and was deeply puzzled.  Thank you for the
> answer.
>


From egrimseid at gmail.com  Wed Jun  3 08:06:07 2015
From: egrimseid at gmail.com (Erlend Grimseid)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 14:06:07 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Linux rig control
In-Reply-To: <556EE339.3030903@nycap.rr.com>
References: <556EE339.3030903@nycap.rr.com>
Message-ID: <CABOvax9775QRDFzBuuUB0t8qgM+Az8X9vnT6KV7PyL9A=XQheA@mail.gmail.com>

I use the fldigi suite of software on my Ubuntu distro. It  does most
everything you need for ham radio work. Sound Card digimodes modem, logging
and rig controll. Add on programs lets you do arq, radiograms. It can
function as an modem for other 3d party software.  And supports kiss.

Might do what you want.

73
Erlend
La4tta.
3. juni 2015 13:21 skrev "Bill" <w2blc at nycap.rr.com> f?lgende:

> I am looking for Linux software to control the K3. Currently I use an old
> version of HRD - which basically does what I want. HRD is a no go under
> Wine. I am totally uninterested in logging apps and similar - only desire
> rig control.
>
> At this point I am running Linux Mint 17 on one machine and Win 10 Preview
> on another.  Win 10 is filled with features - as in bloatware - that I do
> not need nor want. However, there are a few programs that I run that are
> Windows only types and have no serious clones available for Linux. HRD is
> one of these.
>
> Any suggestions? My goal is to run only a single system - Linux or
> Windows. It makes it too fiddly to run two full systems. Dual boot and
> VMware solutions have been explored and dismissed. Rig control would go a
> long way toward making the change to Linux only.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill W2BLC K-Line
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From info at n2yt.com  Wed Jun  3 09:21:13 2015
From: info at n2yt.com (info at n2yt.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 22:21:13 +0900
Subject: [Elecraft] pse help k3/0 mini
Message-ID: <CAEiQSKV9wtSBgGRWrTT2dqJ=Ppi+LHukgScdkFKWD4xRS8Ve9w@mail.gmail.com>

I received K3/0 mini a few days ago from elecraft US.

But I have a problem.  I think VFO B knob is not working. (VFO_B is
unlocked)

I cannot change VFO B frequency and set menu entries using VFO B knob.

I sent emails to k3support at elecraft.com but no reply.

This is my first Elecraft. I'm not familiar with K3. Please help me.

Hiroshi (Tokyo, Japan)

From mzilmer at roadrunner.com  Wed Jun  3 09:46:42 2015
From: mzilmer at roadrunner.com (Matt Zilmer)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 06:46:42 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Linux rig control
In-Reply-To: <556EE339.3030903@nycap.rr.com>
References: <556EE339.3030903@nycap.rr.com>
Message-ID: <kr0umapb83vvt78ffdvigsti7lfe7i1vmc@4ax.com>

This isn't a direct answer to your question, Bill.  It does address
the Linux issue to some extent.

I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 here and have Fldigi up and running under
Wine.  I'm working on getting MSDMT going now.  Tht is a software
modem / terminal program  used for Army MARS message transfer on HF.

With Fldigi, everything is working fine and it is as stable as Fldigi
gets.  This setup runs using a Creative Labs EMU 0202.  I have to run
the program via sudo because otherwise Fldigi can't get access to the
sound unit.

M110A is set up differently (for the present), so I can't run it as
su.  So the EMU sound unit isn't visible, though the COM port works
fine.  I'm slowly working this out.

For just plain old rig control, you might try DM780 by itself under
wine.  it only requires a COM port to operate the K3.  You have to set
up the COM port under the dos_devices folder withing ~/.wine, I
believe.  There are different web pages describing the "how to" for
serial ports under wine.

73,
matt
W6NIA / AAR9CD

On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 07:21:29 -0400, you wrote:

>I am looking for Linux software to control the K3. Currently I use an 
>old version of HRD - which basically does what I want. HRD is a no go 
>under Wine. I am totally uninterested in logging apps and similar - only 
>desire rig control.
>
>At this point I am running Linux Mint 17 on one machine and Win 10 
>Preview on another.  Win 10 is filled with features - as in bloatware - 
>that I do not need nor want. However, there are a few programs that I 
>run that are Windows only types and have no serious clones available for 
>Linux. HRD is one of these.
>
>Any suggestions? My goal is to run only a single system - Linux or 
>Windows. It makes it too fiddly to run two full systems. Dual boot and 
>VMware solutions have been explored and dismissed. Rig control would go 
>a long way toward making the change to Linux only.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Bill W2BLC K-Line
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From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Jun  3 10:55:57 2015
From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 15:55:57 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Auto OFF on battery only suggestion
In-Reply-To: <004201d09da2$4e6be120$eb43a360$@qa.com.au>
References: <4552FCF5-ED39-4FF2-8F65-F27DDF86D3A6@yahoo.co.uk>
	<CANVONALJ6coAR=28AKqn3K04stXjq=EvvibMj-LgMThhktKbAw@mail.gmail.com>
	<004201d09da2$4e6be120$eb43a360$@qa.com.au>
Message-ID: <9C56B4D7-811B-4D49-8EB8-88C32FF587CD@yahoo.co.uk>

Yes Peter, I did think of that possibility, in which case you just wouldn't use the option I proposed.

Diving into the menus each time I change from external PSU to internal batteries gets old quite quickly,  the less times I am in there the better as there is the danger of inadvertently changing something else by mistake by turning the VFO in a moment of confusion. 

I doubt anything will be done, but I thought it was worth asking.

73

David Anderson GM4JJJ 

> On 3 Jun 2015, at 03:09, Peter Lambert <plambert at qa.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Consider the use of an external battery pack.  Starts to get complicated.
> Perhaps best the way it is and up to the operator to turn the feature on
> when it's required.
> 
> The menu system is very quick and easy to use with a little familiarity.
> 
> 73's Peter VK4JD
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rick
> Tavan N6XI
> Sent: Wednesday, 3 June 2015 12:01 PM
> To: David Anderson
> Cc: Elecraft Mailer
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Auto OFF on battery only suggestion
> 
> Good idea, David. I'd like that option, too.
> 
> /Rick N6XI
> 
>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:48 AM, David Anderson <gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> I wonder if the Auto OFF command could be enhanced so that it has an 
>> option so that it takes effect only if the KX3 is running from 
>> internal batteries?
>> 
>> The only reason I set Auto OFF on is so that if I forget to turn it 
>> off while I have the rig on batteries it will switch off and not run them
> down.
>> I like to leave the rig on continuously when running from an external 
>> source for stability and frequently come back to find it has switched off.
>> 
>> Thanks for your consideration.
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> David Anderson GM4JJJ
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From david.m.shoaf at gmail.com  Wed Jun  3 11:04:16 2015
From: david.m.shoaf at gmail.com (David Shoaf)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 08:04:16 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] pse help k3/0 mini
In-Reply-To: <CAEiQSKV9wtSBgGRWrTT2dqJ=Ppi+LHukgScdkFKWD4xRS8Ve9w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEiQSKV9wtSBgGRWrTT2dqJ=Ppi+LHukgScdkFKWD4xRS8Ve9w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1433343856062-7603690.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hi Hiroshi,

Please check your spam filter.  Elecraft Support replied to you on June 1st
at 4:15 PM California time.

Otherwise, please supply a different email address for us to use. 

Cheers,

David/KG6IRW
-----------------------------------------
David Shoaf
K3/KX3 International Distributor and Customer Support
+1-831-763-4211 x121
KG6IRW
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From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Wed Jun  3 11:12:29 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Doug Person via Elecraft)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 09:12:29 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Linux rig control
In-Reply-To: <kr0umapb83vvt78ffdvigsti7lfe7i1vmc@4ax.com>
References: <556EE339.3030903@nycap.rr.com>
	<kr0umapb83vvt78ffdvigsti7lfe7i1vmc@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <556F195D.3050403@aol.com>

It would make a lot more sense to run fldigi directly under ubuntu 
rather adding in the complex layer of wine.

flrig is a very simple rig control program - but it does work very well 
running on ubuntu variants and most other distros.

73, Doug -- K0DXV

On 6/3/15 7:46 AM, Matt Zilmer wrote:
> This isn't a direct answer to your question, Bill.  It does address
> the Linux issue to some extent.
>
> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 here and have Fldigi up and running under
> Wine.  I'm working on getting MSDMT going now.  Tht is a software
> modem / terminal program  used for Army MARS message transfer on HF.
>
> With Fldigi, everything is working fine and it is as stable as Fldigi
> gets.  This setup runs using a Creative Labs EMU 0202.  I have to run
> the program via sudo because otherwise Fldigi can't get access to the
> sound unit.
>
> M110A is set up differently (for the present), so I can't run it as
> su.  So the EMU sound unit isn't visible, though the COM port works
> fine.  I'm slowly working this out.
>
> For just plain old rig control, you might try DM780 by itself under
> wine.  it only requires a COM port to operate the K3.  You have to set
> up the COM port under the dos_devices folder withing ~/.wine, I
> believe.  There are different web pages describing the "how to" for
> serial ports under wine.
>
> 73,
> matt
> W6NIA / AAR9CD
>
> On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 07:21:29 -0400, you wrote:
>
>> I am looking for Linux software to control the K3. Currently I use an
>> old version of HRD - which basically does what I want. HRD is a no go
>> under Wine. I am totally uninterested in logging apps and similar - only
>> desire rig control.
>>
>> At this point I am running Linux Mint 17 on one machine and Win 10
>> Preview on another.  Win 10 is filled with features - as in bloatware -
>> that I do not need nor want. However, there are a few programs that I
>> run that are Windows only types and have no serious clones available for
>> Linux. HRD is one of these.
>>
>> Any suggestions? My goal is to run only a single system - Linux or
>> Windows. It makes it too fiddly to run two full systems. Dual boot and
>> VMware solutions have been explored and dismissed. Rig control would go
>> a long way toward making the change to Linux only.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bill W2BLC K-Line
>> ______________________________________________________________
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From mzilmer at roadrunner.com  Wed Jun  3 12:05:05 2015
From: mzilmer at roadrunner.com (Matt Zilmer)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 09:05:05 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Linux rig control
In-Reply-To: <556F195D.3050403@aol.com>
References: <556EE339.3030903@nycap.rr.com>
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My mistake.  Fldigi and Flarq are both running under Ubuntu directly.
The ppa that Kamal Mostafa runs has very stable Linux versions.

I'm all hung up on getting wine to run M110A, and I'm stuck on that.

Sorry for the confusion.

73,
matt
W6NIA

On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 09:12:29 -0600, you wrote:

>It would make a lot more sense to run fldigi directly under ubuntu 
>rather adding in the complex layer of wine.
>
>flrig is a very simple rig control program - but it does work very well 
>running on ubuntu variants and most other distros.
>
>73, Doug -- K0DXV
>
>On 6/3/15 7:46 AM, Matt Zilmer wrote:
>> This isn't a direct answer to your question, Bill.  It does address
>> the Linux issue to some extent.
>>
>> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 here and have Fldigi up and running under
>> Wine.  I'm working on getting MSDMT going now.  Tht is a software
>> modem / terminal program  used for Army MARS message transfer on HF.
>>
>> With Fldigi, everything is working fine and it is as stable as Fldigi
>> gets.  This setup runs using a Creative Labs EMU 0202.  I have to run
>> the program via sudo because otherwise Fldigi can't get access to the
>> sound unit.
>>
>> M110A is set up differently (for the present), so I can't run it as
>> su.  So the EMU sound unit isn't visible, though the COM port works
>> fine.  I'm slowly working this out.
>>
>> For just plain old rig control, you might try DM780 by itself under
>> wine.  it only requires a COM port to operate the K3.  You have to set
>> up the COM port under the dos_devices folder withing ~/.wine, I
>> believe.  There are different web pages describing the "how to" for
>> serial ports under wine.
>>
>> 73,
>> matt
>> W6NIA / AAR9CD
>>
>> On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 07:21:29 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>>> I am looking for Linux software to control the K3. Currently I use an
>>> old version of HRD - which basically does what I want. HRD is a no go
>>> under Wine. I am totally uninterested in logging apps and similar - only
>>> desire rig control.
>>>
>>> At this point I am running Linux Mint 17 on one machine and Win 10
>>> Preview on another.  Win 10 is filled with features - as in bloatware -
>>> that I do not need nor want. However, there are a few programs that I
>>> run that are Windows only types and have no serious clones available for
>>> Linux. HRD is one of these.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions? My goal is to run only a single system - Linux or
>>> Windows. It makes it too fiddly to run two full systems. Dual boot and
>>> VMware solutions have been explored and dismissed. Rig control would go
>>> a long way toward making the change to Linux only.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Bill W2BLC K-Line
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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From dave at nk7z.net  Wed Jun  3 12:14:50 2015
From: dave at nk7z.net (David Cole)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 09:14:50 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Linux rig control
In-Reply-To: <ta9umalcq283cbguhl5glvior66hj02bku@4ax.com>
References: <556EE339.3030903@nycap.rr.com>
	<kr0umapb83vvt78ffdvigsti7lfe7i1vmc@4ax.com> <556F195D.3050403@aol.com>
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Hi,
If you have a copy of Windows, try "Virtual Box".
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On Wed, 2015-06-03 at 09:05 -0700, Matt Zilmer wrote:
> My mistake.  Fldigi and Flarq are both running under Ubuntu directly.
> The ppa that Kamal Mostafa runs has very stable Linux versions.
> 
> I'm all hung up on getting wine to run M110A, and I'm stuck on that.
> 
> Sorry for the confusion.
> 
> 73,
> matt
> W6NIA
> 
> On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 09:12:29 -0600, you wrote:
> 
> >It would make a lot more sense to run fldigi directly under ubuntu 
> >rather adding in the complex layer of wine.
> >
> >flrig is a very simple rig control program - but it does work very well 
> >running on ubuntu variants and most other distros.
> >
> >73, Doug -- K0DXV
> >
> >On 6/3/15 7:46 AM, Matt Zilmer wrote:
> >> This isn't a direct answer to your question, Bill.  It does address
> >> the Linux issue to some extent.
> >>
> >> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 here and have Fldigi up and running under
> >> Wine.  I'm working on getting MSDMT going now.  Tht is a software
> >> modem / terminal program  used for Army MARS message transfer on HF.
> >>
> >> With Fldigi, everything is working fine and it is as stable as Fldigi
> >> gets.  This setup runs using a Creative Labs EMU 0202.  I have to run
> >> the program via sudo because otherwise Fldigi can't get access to the
> >> sound unit.
> >>
> >> M110A is set up differently (for the present), so I can't run it as
> >> su.  So the EMU sound unit isn't visible, though the COM port works
> >> fine.  I'm slowly working this out.
> >>
> >> For just plain old rig control, you might try DM780 by itself under
> >> wine.  it only requires a COM port to operate the K3.  You have to set
> >> up the COM port under the dos_devices folder withing ~/.wine, I
> >> believe.  There are different web pages describing the "how to" for
> >> serial ports under wine.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> matt
> >> W6NIA / AAR9CD
> >>
> >> On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 07:21:29 -0400, you wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am looking for Linux software to control the K3. Currently I use an
> >>> old version of HRD - which basically does what I want. HRD is a no go
> >>> under Wine. I am totally uninterested in logging apps and similar - only
> >>> desire rig control.
> >>>
> >>> At this point I am running Linux Mint 17 on one machine and Win 10
> >>> Preview on another.  Win 10 is filled with features - as in bloatware -
> >>> that I do not need nor want. However, there are a few programs that I
> >>> run that are Windows only types and have no serious clones available for
> >>> Linux. HRD is one of these.
> >>>
> >>> Any suggestions? My goal is to run only a single system - Linux or
> >>> Windows. It makes it too fiddly to run two full systems. Dual boot and
> >>> VMware solutions have been explored and dismissed. Rig control would go
> >>> a long way toward making the change to Linux only.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Bill W2BLC K-Line
> >>> ______________________________________________________________
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From wc2l at wc2l.com  Wed Jun  3 12:59:32 2015
From: wc2l at wc2l.com (William Liporace WC2L)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 12:59:32 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Linux rig control
In-Reply-To: UID187585-1200147422
References: UID187585-1200147422
Message-ID: <556EFA34.FFB7.0000.1@wc2l.com>


Hi Bill,

I am personally not running a K3, but the Albany club is. We will have a K3 running with KB, a Linux based Contest  logging program at field day this year (as always). Walt WA1KKM is adding K3 support this year. He has always suppoorted my rigs. 

There is also CQRLOG. This is a daily logging software that uses hamlib and also supports fldigi and etc. I do have a PC with all of this setup. I have not updated it in a bit. Since we are local, we should be able to get together and chat ;-) 



Will WC2L 


>>> Bill<w2blc at nycap.rr.com> 6/3/2015 7:21 AM >>>


I am looking for Linux software to control the K3. Currently I use an 
old version of HRD - which basically does what I want. HRD is a no go 
under Wine. I am totally uninterested in logging apps and similar - only 
desire rig control.

At this point I am running Linux Mint 17 on one machine and Win 10 
Preview on another.  Win 10 is filled with features - as in bloatware - 
that I do not need nor want. However, there are a few programs that I 
run that are Windows only types and have no serious clones available for 
Linux. HRD is one of these.

Any suggestions? My goal is to run only a single system - Linux or 
Windows. It makes it too fiddly to run two full systems. Dual boot and 
VMware solutions have been explored and dismissed. Rig control would go 
a long way toward making the change to Linux only.

Thanks,

Bill W2BLC K-Line
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From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Tue Jun  2 23:46:57 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Skip Davis via Elecraft)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 03:46:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] XG-2 For Sale Sold
Message-ID: <1324091555.2015771.1433303217617.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi all the XG-2 is sold.?
Skip NC9O

From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Wed Jun  3 00:14:53 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Skip Davis via Elecraft)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 04:14:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 For Sale
Message-ID: <784632164.2042898.1433304893662.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

I have a KX1 for sale, it covers 40, 30, and 20 meters. Included accessories are the KXAT1 internal ATU and KXPD1 paddles. Priced at $400.00 shipped, I accept PayPal. Email me off list please at skipnc9o at Yahoo dot com.
Skip Davis NC9O

From jtcapell at me.com  Wed Jun  3 19:02:14 2015
From: jtcapell at me.com (JOSEPH CAPELL)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 16:02:14 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD3 for sale
Message-ID: <8165109E-1C19-4DE9-B304-07281C919D73@me.com>

For sale is a KXPD3 keyer paddles that attach to the KX3. I ordered this about 6 weeks ago and just cannot give up my affection for my old Bencher Key. It is used very little and in perfect condition.
It cost $130 and I am offering it for $110. I will pay shipping  upon receipt and clearance of payment to any location in  Continental USA by USPS with appropriate insurance.  Contact me at jtcapell at me.com.

From ve3wdm at hotmail.com  Wed Jun  3 19:17:28 2015
From: ve3wdm at hotmail.com (Mike Weir)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 19:17:28 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] CQ WPX and the KSYN3A board?
Message-ID: <COL131-W83BAB94AB8C2251790A6BB91B40@phx.gbl>

Good evening to the group, I was not able to participate last weekend in the CQ WPX CW contest but I was wondering from those of you who did and had the new KSYN3A synthesizer board in your K3's.......how was the performance ? What did you notice compared to the old synthesizer board? 
Mike Weir
VE3WDM
 		 	   		  

From ns9i2016 at Bayland.net  Wed Jun  3 20:29:43 2015
From: ns9i2016 at Bayland.net (DGB)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 19:29:43 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] CQ WPX and the KSYN3A board?
In-Reply-To: <COL131-W83BAB94AB8C2251790A6BB91B40@phx.gbl>
References: <COL131-W83BAB94AB8C2251790A6BB91B40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <556F9BF7.3050403@Bayland.net>

I did participate, part time, but weathered thru about 1000 q's. 
Received both boards and installed about 3 hours before the contest.

I was amazed how close qrm could be to a weak signal and not affect it 
at all. Noticeable difference from the old boards indeed! Plus the rig 
seems quieter as well, again great for the weaker signals. A long as the 
qrm wasn't on the exact same frequency,  I was able to filter them out 
to hear the signal of interest!

Nice having a qrm-less rig! Don't have any idea how it would do on ssb. 
I won't find out either, being primarily a cw and digital operator!

Highly recommended up-grade! Thanks Elecraft!

73 Dwight NS9I

On 6/3/2015 6:17 PM, Mike Weir wrote:
> Good evening to the group, I was not able to participate last weekend in the CQ WPX CW contest but I was wondering from those of you who did and had the new KSYN3A synthesizer board in your K3's.......how was the performance ? What did you notice compared to the old synthesizer board?
> Mike Weir
> VE3WDM
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From aldermant at windstream.net  Wed Jun  3 21:08:47 2015
From: aldermant at windstream.net (Chester Alderman)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 21:08:47 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] CQ WPX and the KSYN3A board?
In-Reply-To: <556F9BF7.3050403@Bayland.net>
References: <COL131-W83BAB94AB8C2251790A6BB91B40@phx.gbl>
	<556F9BF7.3050403@Bayland.net>
Message-ID: <002a01d09e63$02d1a8f0$0874fad0$@windstream.net>

I agree with Dwight's description of the new synthesizers in the K3. I also
did a few hours in the WPX contest, where the QRM can get bad, but this
time, no one could sneak up close to me to take over the QRG and I was able
to log a little over 1000 QSO's. Loud signals certainly were less of a
problem than before. I have also tested the high speed full QSK (up to 90
wpm) and it is working so much better.
As Dwight says " Highly recommended up-grade! Thanks Elecraft!".

73,
Tom - W4BQF
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of DGB
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 8:30 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CQ WPX and the KSYN3A board?

I did participate, part time, but weathered thru about 1000 q's. 
Received both boards and installed about 3 hours before the contest.

I was amazed how close qrm could be to a weak signal and not affect it at
all. Noticeable difference from the old boards indeed! Plus the rig seems
quieter as well, again great for the weaker signals. A long as the qrm
wasn't on the exact same frequency,  I was able to filter them out to hear
the signal of interest!

Nice having a qrm-less rig! Don't have any idea how it would do on ssb. 
I won't find out either, being primarily a cw and digital operator!

Highly recommended up-grade! Thanks Elecraft!

73 Dwight NS9I

On 6/3/2015 6:17 PM, Mike Weir wrote:
> Good evening to the group, I was not able to participate last weekend in
the CQ WPX CW contest but I was wondering from those of you who did and had
the new KSYN3A synthesizer board in your K3's.......how was the performance
? What did you notice compared to the old synthesizer board?
> Mike Weir
> VE3WDM
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From focusw at ix.netcom.com  Wed Jun  3 21:40:40 2015
From: focusw at ix.netcom.com (Bill Myers)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 18:40:40 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Pigknob and K2
Message-ID: <1433382040454-7603701.post@n2.nabble.com>

Anyone have experience using the PigKnob with the K2?  I'm thinking of using
my K2 for SO2R, but the ergonomics are difficult - the PigKnob would fix
that.  I use one with my K3.

Bill K6IFF



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From k6dgw at foothill.net  Thu Jun  4 01:27:09 2015
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 22:27:09 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] CQ WPX and the KSYN3A board?
In-Reply-To: <COL131-W83BAB94AB8C2251790A6BB91B40@phx.gbl>
References: <COL131-W83BAB94AB8C2251790A6BB91B40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <556FE1AD.6080402@foothill.net>

I was on only sporadically, wedding to attend on Sat and most of Sun was 
at granddaughter's softball tournament.  It is however probably the best 
workout I've given the new synthesizer, and the improvements in QSK and 
CW stability are remarkable and obvious.  I rarely noticed any phase 
noise with the old board, I didn't notice any with the new one.  Phase 
noise on receive is not really my problem however, Casey's [neighbor] 
plasma TV is.  Fortunately, he's had lots of problems with it, came over 
to see our Panasonic LCD, and is about to trash the plasma. :-)  The CW 
was just super clean at 30-35 WPM which is about the max I use in 
contests [except when working D4C].

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org

On 6/3/2015 4:17 PM, Mike Weir wrote:
> Good evening to the group, I was not able to participate last weekend
> in the CQ WPX CW contest but I was wondering from those of you who
> did and had the new KSYN3A synthesizer board in your K3's.......how
> was the performance ? What did you notice compared to the old
> synthesizer board? Mike Weir VE3WDM

From k2vco.vic at gmail.com  Thu Jun  4 03:00:04 2015
From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 10:00:04 +0300
Subject: [Elecraft] CQ WPX and the KSYN3A board?
In-Reply-To: <COL131-W83BAB94AB8C2251790A6BB91B40@phx.gbl>
References: <COL131-W83BAB94AB8C2251790A6BB91B40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <556FF774.8070007@gmail.com>

You really need to do an a/b comparison, which of course I didn't do. I 
also just added a set of 5-pole 200 Hz filters. But subjectively my K3 
felt more comfortable than ever among the big 1-hop signals from EU that 
I experience. I found myself working closer than ever to strong signals.

For what it's worth, there also weren't as many clickers out there as in 
the past. That's progress.

73,
Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
Rehovot, Israel
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/

On 4 Jun 2015 02:17, Mike Weir wrote:
> Good evening to the group, I was not able to participate last weekend
> in the CQ WPX CW contest but I was wondering from those of you who
> did and had the new KSYN3A synthesizer board in your K3's.......how
> was the performance ? What did you notice compared to the old
> synthesizer board? Mike Weir VE3WDM

From w6jhb at me.com  Thu Jun  4 12:32:52 2015
From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 09:32:52 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Ferrite Identification Question
Message-ID: <B18DD057-2818-42E8-9F90-97BD64C56C25@me.com>

A bit off-thread, but sorta related, as these things ARE used for antennas with my K3/KX3!! I have a bunch of ferrites - donuts, clamp-ons, beads, etc. that I?m trying to identify the mix. With the guidance of Tom/W8JI I?ve figured out how to use my AIM-4170C analyzer to show at what frequency these things have an R=X value with Q=1. However, I?ve not been successful relating that frequency data to the mix number. An email to Fair Rite has gone unanswered, and trying to wade through their web site is mind-boggling. Does anyone on this list have a URL that points to this information?

Thanks, Jim / W6JHB

From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Thu Jun  4 12:51:16 2015
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 09:51:16 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Ferrite Identification Question
In-Reply-To: <B18DD057-2818-42E8-9F90-97BD64C56C25@me.com>
References: <B18DD057-2818-42E8-9F90-97BD64C56C25@me.com>
Message-ID: <55708204.1030205@audiosystemsgroup.com>

Ferrites are not easily identified. From this links on this page you can 
see all of those made by Fair-Rite.

http://www.fair-rite.com/newfair/materials.htm

See my tutorial for a discussion of the use of ferrites for suppression, 
which is what we are doing with chokes.

k9yc.com/RFI-Ham.pdf

To make use of Tom's advice, you'll need to match your measurements with 
a product data sheet.  To find the data sheet, click on "Suppression" in 
this link.

http://www.fair-rite.com/cgibin/catalog.pgm

Most clamp-on ferrite parts you are likely to run into in the surplus 
market have a good chance of being Fair-Rite #43 or something similar to 
#43 by another company.  Fair-Rite's #31 material is a relatively unique 
material, and targeted to suppression at MF and HF. MF is 300 kHz to 3 
MHz, HF is 3 MHz to 30 MHz.

73, Jim K9YC

http://www.fair-rite.com/newfair/materials.htm

On Thu,6/4/2015 9:32 AM, James Bennett wrote:
> A bit off-thread, but sorta related, as these things ARE used for antennas with my K3/KX3!! I have a bunch of ferrites - donuts, clamp-ons, beads, etc. that I?m trying to identify the mix. With the guidance of Tom/W8JI I?ve figured out how to use my AIM-4170C analyzer to show at what frequency these things have an R=X value with Q=1. However, I?ve not been successful relating that frequency data to the mix number. An email to Fair Rite has gone unanswered, and trying to wade through their web site is mind-boggling. Does anyone on this list have a URL that points to this information?


From jbollit at outlook.com  Thu Jun  4 13:12:13 2015
From: jbollit at outlook.com (jim)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 10:12:13 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Ferrite Identification Question
In-Reply-To: <B18DD057-2818-42E8-9F90-97BD64C56C25@me.com>
References: <B18DD057-2818-42E8-9F90-97BD64C56C25@me.com>
Message-ID: <SNT151-DS2651892D8CD9AC3B37E07FA6B30@phx.gbl>

VK1OD had a listing of common ham radio mixes that was helpful in ID'ing mix.

Owen Duffy took his website down and I am not sure if the info has been posted somewhere else.

Jim
W6AIM


-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of James Bennett
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 9:33 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Ferrite Identification Question

A bit off-thread, but sorta related, as these things ARE used for antennas with my K3/KX3!! I have a bunch of ferrites - donuts, clamp-ons, beads, etc. that I?m trying to identify the mix. With the guidance of Tom/W8JI I?ve figured out how to use my AIM-4170C analyzer to show at what frequency these things have an R=X value with Q=1. However, I?ve not been successful relating that frequency data to the mix number. An email to Fair Rite has gone unanswered, and trying to wade through their web site is mind-boggling. Does anyone on this list have a URL that points to this information?

Thanks, Jim / W6JHB
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From bill at wjschmidt.com  Thu Jun  4 15:09:56 2015
From: bill at wjschmidt.com (Dr. William J. Schmidt, II)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 14:09:56 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Ferrite Identification Question
In-Reply-To: <B18DD057-2818-42E8-9F90-97BD64C56C25@me.com>
References: <B18DD057-2818-42E8-9F90-97BD64C56C25@me.com>
Message-ID: <56CDB50F-6C16-4165-92DE-B918BBDE3D13@wjschmidt.com>

You actually need more than one datapoint in most cases to identify the correct part. Simply measuring the reactance with a nice antenna analyzer at several frequencies (a few loops of wire through the device) and matching that up with the theoreticals given in the data sheets will tell you everything you need to know (except saturation... And you can get that from the size). 


Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ
 
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> On Jun 4, 2015, at 11:32 AM, James Bennett <w6jhb at me.com> wrote:
> 
> A bit off-thread, but sorta related, as these things ARE used for antennas with my K3/KX3!! I have a bunch of ferrites - donuts, clamp-ons, beads, etc. that I?m trying to identify the mix. With the guidance of Tom/W8JI I?ve figured out how to use my AIM-4170C analyzer to show at what frequency these things have an R=X value with Q=1. However, I?ve not been successful relating that frequency data to the mix number. An email to Fair Rite has gone unanswered, and trying to wade through their web site is mind-boggling. Does anyone on this list have a URL that points to this information?
> 
> Thanks, Jim / W6JHB
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From carl at n8vz.com  Thu Jun  4 15:27:11 2015
From: carl at n8vz.com (=?UTF-8?B?Q2FybCBKw7NuIERlbmJvdw==?=)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 15:27:11 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Problem with Test TX Data and ALC
Message-ID: <5570A68F.10408@n8vz.com>

I've been trying to set up my data modes using a SignaLink USB, which 
I've used with good results with my KX3, with my K3.  I do have the 
correct K3 jumper board in the SL.  I also have the SignaLink supplied 
cables hooked up correctly.  I can monitor digital signals just fine.  I 
can not get any TX audio actually transmitted, though Windows indicates 
that the USB Codec Speaker is getting plenty of audio on TX.  I've tried 
to use the Test TX DATA routine within the K3 and get no ALC even when 
Windows indicates that that line has full bore audio.  I'm probably 
doing something rather simple wrong here, but I can't for the life of me 
figure out what it might be.  In terms of experience, I'm an old hand at 
digital modes having run them on numerous rigs, with various computers 
and external sound card combinations over a number of years.  I'm, 
however, very new to the K3 as I just purchased it used at Dayton this 
year, and I'm just now trying to hook it up for digital modes.  Thanks 
for any help you can give.  73 de Carl, N8VZ

From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Thu Jun  4 15:42:00 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 15:42:00 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Problem with Test TX Data and ALC
In-Reply-To: <5570A68F.10408@n8vz.com>
References: <5570A68F.10408@n8vz.com>
Message-ID: <5570AA08.3070308@embarqmail.com>

Carl,

I figure you are using the K3 LINE IN jack, and when you used it on the 
KX3, you used the MIC jack.
The Line In needs a much larger audio signal than the mic level that 
your SignaLink is providing.
There is a jumper you can change in the SL box to increase the audio 
output level - look for it in the SL manual.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/4/2015 3:27 PM, Carl J?n Denbow wrote:
> I've been trying to set up my data modes using a SignaLink USB, which 
> I've used with good results with my KX3, with my K3.  I do have the 
> correct K3 jumper board in the SL.  I also have the SignaLink supplied 
> cables hooked up correctly.  I can monitor digital signals just fine.  
> I can not get any TX audio actually transmitted, though Windows 
> indicates that the USB Codec Speaker is getting plenty of audio on 
> TX.  I've tried to use the Test TX DATA routine within the K3 and get 
> no ALC even when Windows indicates that that line has full bore 
> audio.  I'm probably doing something rather simple wrong here, but I 
> can't for the life of me figure out what it might be.  In terms of 
> experience, I'm an old hand at digital modes having run them on 
> numerous rigs, with various computers and external sound card 
> combinations over a number of years.  I'm, however, very new to the K3 
> as I just purchased it used at Dayton this year, and I'm just now 
> trying to hook it up for digital modes.  Thanks for any help you can 
> give. 73 de Carl, N8VZ


From w7aqk at cox.net  Thu Jun  4 15:53:37 2015
From: w7aqk at cox.net (dyarnes)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 12:53:37 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] W6MMA SK
Message-ID: <4CDA9F97F26849E7830C33D45F2D0640@TDYDell>

Hi All,

It is with the deepest of regret that I am passing on the news that Vern 
Wright, W6MMA, passed away yesterday.  Vern, and his wife June, are very 
dear friends, and I can't begin to express how sad it makes me to bring news 
like this to the rest of you.  I suppose this might not be the best place to 
convey this, but I do know Vern had a wealth of good friends among this 
group.

Vern's health has not been very good in recent years, but it was probably 
made worse by a lot of stress he has had to endure in recent years.  Only a 
few short weeks ago he suffered an episode with his heart (not his first!), 
and another, even more recent episode, is probably what was ultimately 
fatal.

Vern was one of the most generous people I have ever known.  He continually 
supported many of the QRP activities, and never passed up an opportunity to 
supply very nice door prizes, etc.  Being a retired dentist, Vern was very 
good with his hands.  If anyone has seen some of the things he constructed 
(not just antennas but radios too!), you know how highly skilled he was. 
Many years back he began tinkering with antennas, mostly for portable use, 
and that led to the formation of SuperAntennas.  His model MP-1 is a 
classic, but there were numerous variations of that, including a baby 12 V. 
screwdriver version.  He made several large screwdriver antennas as well, 
and I happen to have one!  Anyway, the list is pretty long, and each item he 
created was very well made.

Ham radio, and particularly the QRP community, has lost one of its very best 
friends.  I know I have!

Dave W7AQK





From w6jhb at me.com  Thu Jun  4 16:36:29 2015
From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 13:36:29 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Ferrite Identification Question
In-Reply-To: <12B13D2C29AFFE44B60C83DC6B79921F66DA57E7@MBX023-W1-CA-4.exch023.domain.local>
References: <B18DD057-2818-42E8-9F90-97BD64C56C25@me.com>
	<12B13D2C29AFFE44B60C83DC6B79921F66DA57E7@MBX023-W1-CA-4.exch023.domain.local>
Message-ID: <AC66CEA1-B1A1-436F-ABEA-B978E9B497A7@me.com>

Hi Dan,

No problem. First, please understand that (1) I?m not an EE, and (2) I?m not an expert with the 4170C. I?ve had it a year or so and am comfortable with most basic measurements it can do, but this device is capable of a LOT more than I understand!

OK, I assume that you?ve got a 4170 and have some rudimentary knowledge in how to use it. The first thing you?ll need to do is to be sure you have a way to connect bare wire to the AIM. As you know, it has an SO-239 UHF connector on the front, so that?s a problem. I bought an adapter that is quite similar to the device on the elecraft web site called a BNC-BP: BNC Male to Stackable Binding Posts. You will need something similar, but one with a PL-259 / UHF connector on it, NOT the BNC.

Next, use this adapter to build a special CAL file. You probably are aware that you need three things for a CAL: an open (that?s easy - nothing connected to the binding posts), a short (again, easy - short piece of bare wire), and a resistance. I used a pair of 100 ohm resistors in parallel (for 50 ohms). It doesn?t have to be 50 ohms, but whatever resistance value you use has to be entered on the custom cal screen. I suggest naming this cal file and saving it for future use.

Once you?ve built your custom cal file, you?re almost ready to go. Make up a length of wire long enough to pass through the ferrite in question - pass it through only once. More than that really will skew the results. Make this wire as short as possible, and connect the bare ends to the binding posts. 

Here is where you will need to experiment. The Fair Rite pages show the impedance (Z) at several different frequencies. I currently am measuring a couple of the square ?clamp on? / ?snap on? cores. They measure about 1-1/4 inches in length and about 5/8 inch square. They were in a box marked mix 43. I set my AIM Setup?>Plot Parameters to show me Series Load (Rx) and Phase. I have my Limits set to 20 and 30 MHz, as I want to see the impedance at 25 MHz, which is one of the values shown in the Fair Rite tables for Mix 43/44 clamp-ons. You can set it at whatever you want, but know that the tables only give you a small handful of frequency values. Anyway, I?ve got my Scales value for Zmag set at 200 in the AIM. When I run a scan on this particular snap-on core and look at the Zmag it shows at the 25 MHz mark, I get a value of 160.652, which isn?t too far off of what Fair Rite shows for a core with these dimensions: 161 ohms. 

I was pretty sure when I started that this was a mix 43 core, and the measurements pretty much proved it right. Had I begun with no idea, it would have taken a tad longer to figure it out. So, as I mentioned, it?ll take some playing around with the Scales & Limits settings and some careful physical dimension measurement of the core(s) in question. 

Bottom line is - yes this works pretty well. No, I would NOT want to spend my day doing this for a living - it is a PITA!!

Hope this helps. 73, Jim / W6JHB



> On   Thursday, Jun 4, 2015, at  Thursday, 11:00 AM, Dan Boardman <dan.boardman at shreditfast.com> wrote:
> 
> Jim - I would be interested (if it's not to much trouble) as to how to use the AIM-4170Canalyzer to figure the ferrites and etc. that I have that are not identified.
> 
> Thanks much
> 
> Dan NB1C
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of James Bennett
> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 12:33 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Ferrite Identification Question
> 
> A bit off-thread, but sorta related, as these things ARE used for antennas with my K3/KX3!! I have a bunch of ferrites - donuts, clamp-ons, beads, etc. that I?m trying to identify the mix. With the guidance of Tom/W8JI I?ve fig
> ured out how to use my AIM-4170C analyzer to show at what frequency these things have an R=X value with Q=1. However, I?ve not been successful relating that frequency data to the mix number. An email to Fair Rite has gone unanswered, and trying to wade through their web site is mind-boggling. Does anyone on this list have a URL that points to this information?
> 
> Thanks, Jim / W6JHB
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From carl at n8vz.com  Thu Jun  4 16:38:16 2015
From: carl at n8vz.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Carl_J=F3n_Denbow?=)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 16:38:16 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] W6MMA SK
In-Reply-To: <4CDA9F97F26849E7830C33D45F2D0640@TDYDell>
References: <4CDA9F97F26849E7830C33D45F2D0640@TDYDell>
Message-ID: <5570B738.8090800@n8vz.com>

Thanks for passing on this sad news, Dave.  When I stopped by the 
SuperAntenna booth at Dayton this year, and purchased a new center 
section (slider) for my antenna to replace one that had become corroded 
with sea salt, I inquired about Vern, since in the past he had usually 
been at the booth.  The response I got, though not filled with much 
detail, left me thinking that Vern was not well.  In the past I had 
enjoyed talking with him at Dayton.  I just loved his enthusiasm for ham 
radio and for his products.   He will be missed.  RIP!  -- 73 de Carl, N8VZ

> dyarnes <mailto:w7aqk at cox.net>
> Thursday, June 4, 2015 3:53 PM
> Hi All,
>
> It is with the deepest of regret that I am passing on the news that 
> Vern Wright, W6MMA, passed away yesterday.  Vern, and his wife June, 
> are very dear friends, and I can't begin to express how sad it makes 
> me to bring news like this to the rest of you.  I suppose this might 
> not be the best place to convey this, but I do know Vern had a wealth 
> of good friends among this group.
>
> Vern's health has not been very good in recent years, but it was 
> probably made worse by a lot of stress he has had to endure in recent 
> years.  Only a few short weeks ago he suffered an episode with his 
> heart (not his first!), and another, even more recent episode, is 
> probably what was ultimately fatal.
>
> Vern was one of the most generous people I have ever known.  He 
> continually supported many of the QRP activities, and never passed up 
> an opportunity to supply very nice door prizes, etc.  Being a retired 
> dentist, Vern was very good with his hands.  If anyone has seen some 
> of the things he constructed (not just antennas but radios too!), you 
> know how highly skilled he was. Many years back he began tinkering 
> with antennas, mostly for portable use, and that led to the formation 
> of SuperAntennas.  His model MP-1 is a classic, but there were 
> numerous variations of that, including a baby 12 V. screwdriver 
> version.  He made several large screwdriver antennas as well, and I 
> happen to have one!  Anyway, the list is pretty long, and each item he 
> created was very well made.
>
> Ham radio, and particularly the QRP community, has lost one of its 
> very best friends.  I know I have!
>
> Dave W7AQK
>
>
>
>
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=================================================
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17 Coventry Lane
Athens, Ohio 45701-3718

carl at n8vz.com
www.n8vz.com
EM89wh

IRLP 4533   Echolink 116070

PSK and JT65 Forever!
=================================================


From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Thu Jun  4 16:53:50 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (George via Elecraft)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 15:53:50 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] W6MMA SK
In-Reply-To: <4CDA9F97F26849E7830C33D45F2D0640@TDYDell>
References: <4CDA9F97F26849E7830C33D45F2D0640@TDYDell>
Message-ID: <75482F97-1621-469E-8077-8748692E426F@yahoo.com>

Wow!
Met him at Dayton last time I was there. Nice Fellow. We talked quite a while about his stress and health issues. 
Purchased the 3 element portable beam he had for sale at that time right out of his hands. 
73 OM?

George NE2I



On Jun 4, 2015, at 2:53 PM, dyarnes <w7aqk at cox.net> wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> It is with the deepest of regret that I am passing on the news that Vern Wright, W6MMA, passed away yesterday.  Vern, and his wife June, are very dear friends, and I can't begin to express how sad it makes me to bring news like this to the rest of you.  I suppose this might not be the best place to convey this, but I do know Vern had a wealth of good friends among this group.
> 
> Vern's health has not been very good in recent years, but it was probably made worse by a lot of stress he has had to endure in recent years.  Only a few short weeks ago he suffered an episode with his heart (not his first!), and another, even more recent episode, is probably what was ultimately fatal.
> 
> Vern was one of the most generous people I have ever known.  He continually supported many of the QRP activities, and never passed up an opportunity to supply very nice door prizes, etc.  Being a retired dentist, Vern was very good with his hands.  If anyone has seen some of the things he constructed (not just antennas but radios too!), you know how highly skilled he was. Many years back he began tinkering with antennas, mostly for portable use, and that led to the formation of SuperAntennas.  His model MP-1 is a classic, but there were numerous variations of that, including a baby 12 V. screwdriver version.  He made several large screwdriver antennas as well, and I happen to have one!  Anyway, the list is pretty long, and each item he created was very well made.
> 
> Ham radio, and particularly the QRP community, has lost one of its very best friends.  I know I have!
> 
> Dave W7AQK
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From carl at n8vz.com  Thu Jun  4 17:33:47 2015
From: carl at n8vz.com (=?windows-1252?Q?Carl_J=F3n_Denbow?=)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 17:33:47 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Problem with Test TX Data and ALC
In-Reply-To: <5570A8DF.5020003@nc.rr.com>
References: <5570A68F.10408@n8vz.com> <5570A8DF.5020003@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <5570C43B.5070409@n8vz.com>

<<<Which digital mode did you select? >>>

JT9

<<<Are you using mike input or line in input? >>>

Line

<<<If line in, have you adjusted the K3 line in level. >>>

I guess I need instructions about how to do this.  Please see earlier 
post I made about my inability to find proper menu item.

<<<Make sure you have selected the correct audio input source in the K3 
menu. >>>

Perhaps I need instruction about this too, though I set MIC+LIN to ON.

If using mike input are you using VOX or PTT?

Using PTT via CAT and K3 does key OK, just no audio seems to be TX.

73,

Carl
N8VZ
> brian <mailto:alsopb at nc.rr.com>
> Thursday, June 4, 2015 3:37 PM
> Hi Carl,
> Which digital mode did you select?
>
> Are you using mike input or line in input?
> If line in, have you adjusted the K3 line in level.
>
> Make sure you have selected the correct audio input source in the K3 
> menu.
>
> If using mike input are you using VOX or PTT?
>
> Is the K3 going into transmit?
>
> 73 de Brian/K3KO
>
>
>
> Carl J?n Denbow <mailto:carl at n8vz.com>
> Thursday, June 4, 2015 3:27 PM
> I've been trying to set up my data modes using a SignaLink USB, which 
> I've used with good results with my KX3, with my K3.  I do have the 
> correct K3 jumper board in the SL.  I also have the SignaLink supplied 
> cables hooked up correctly.  I can monitor digital signals just fine.  
> I can not get any TX audio actually transmitted, though Windows 
> indicates that the USB Codec Speaker is getting plenty of audio on 
> TX.  I've tried to use the Test TX DATA routine within the K3 and get 
> no ALC even when Windows indicates that that line has full bore 
> audio.  I'm probably doing something rather simple wrong here, but I 
> can't for the life of me figure out what it might be.  In terms of 
> experience, I'm an old hand at digital modes having run them on 
> numerous rigs, with various computers and external sound card 
> combinations over a number of years.  I'm, however, very new to the K3 
> as I just purchased it used at Dayton this year, and I'm just now 
> trying to hook it up for digital modes.  Thanks for any help you can 
> give.  73 de Carl, N8VZ
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17 Coventry Lane
Athens, Ohio 45701-3718

carl at n8vz.com
www.n8vz.com
EM89wh

IRLP 4533   Echolink 116070

PSK and JT65 Forever!
=================================================


From n6kr at elecraft.com  Thu Jun  4 17:44:13 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 14:44:13 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] W6MMA SK
In-Reply-To: <75482F97-1621-469E-8077-8748692E426F@yahoo.com>
References: <4CDA9F97F26849E7830C33D45F2D0640@TDYDell>
	<75482F97-1621-469E-8077-8748692E426F@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <17BA840A-1A9E-4658-B1DD-093222A20424@elecraft.com>

Hi Dave,

Vern was a friend of mine as well, going back to the early Norcal QRP Club days. We'd all sit around at the California Burger in Pleasanton, CA, comparing home-brew radios while eating ostrich and buffalo specials along with mountains of fries. In hindsight, these probably contributed to his downfall. 

He was always into compact antennas for portable or mobile use. At club meetings he would weave impassioned tales of 5-watt SSB DX QSOs using his latest home-brewed antennas. Vern was king of the hill, with a stentorian voice that carried across continents, as well as across the room. 

Norcal members inspired him to create an ever-expanding line of antennas, helping build his business. This culminating in multi-element yagis that would disappear into his trademark slender black carrying bags. Not long ago he created a miniature version of his classic mobile whip that was far more compact, targeted at the KX3 and similar small rigs.

Vern's enthusiasm was boundless, and his dreams mostly realized. We should all be so fortunate.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


>> Hi All,
>> 
>> It is with the deepest of regret that I am passing on the news that Vern Wright, W6MMA, passed away yesterday.  Vern, and his wife June, are very dear friends, and I can't begin to express how sad it makes me to bring news like this to the rest of you.  I suppose this might not be the best place to convey this, but I do know Vern had a wealth of good friends among this group.
>> 
>> Vern's health has not been very good in recent years, but it was probably made worse by a lot of stress he has had to endure in recent years.  Only a few short weeks ago he suffered an episode with his heart (not his first!), and another, even more recent episode, is probably what was ultimately fatal.
>> 
>> Vern was one of the most generous people I have ever known.  He continually supported many of the QRP activities, and never passed up an opportunity to supply very nice door prizes, etc.  Being a retired dentist, Vern was very good with his hands.  If anyone has seen some of the things he constructed (not just antennas but radios too!), you know how highly skilled he was. Many years back he began tinkering with antennas, mostly for portable use, and that led to the formation of SuperAntennas.  His model MP-1 is a classic, but there were numerous variations of that, including a baby 12 V. screwdriver version.  He made several large screwdriver antennas as well, and I happen to have one!  Anyway, the list is pretty long, and each item he created was very well made.
>> 
>> Ham radio, and particularly the QRP community, has lost one of its very best friends.  I know I have!
>> 
>> Dave W7AQK




From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Thu Jun  4 17:45:49 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 17:45:49 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Problem with Test TX Data and ALC
In-Reply-To: <5570C43B.5070409@n8vz.com>
References: <5570A68F.10408@n8vz.com> <5570A8DF.5020003@nc.rr.com>
	<5570C43B.5070409@n8vz.com>
Message-ID: <5570C70D.2030006@embarqmail.com>

Carl,

You should be in DATA mode - specifically the DATA A submode on the K3.  
Do not use SSB mode, even though it will work, that just "muddies the 
waters".
For that mode, do not set MIC+LINE on in the menu - set LINE IN only.  
This is a per mode setting, so if you want to use MIC+LINE for voice 
modes, it will stay.
With LINE IN set as the input, the gain adjustment is the MIC Gain control.

You will likely find the best result if you set the SignaLink for high 
level output.  That will give you better control with the LINE IN gain 
in the K3 set for something mid-range rather then using a high setting.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/4/2015 5:33 PM, Carl J?n Denbow wrote:
> <<<Which digital mode did you select? >>>
>
> JT9
>
> <<<Are you using mike input or line in input? >>>
>
> Line
>
> <<<If line in, have you adjusted the K3 line in level. >>>
>
> I guess I need instructions about how to do this.  Please see earlier 
> post I made about my inability to find proper menu item.
>
> <<<Make sure you have selected the correct audio input source in the 
> K3 menu. >>>
>
> Perhaps I need instruction about this too, though I set MIC+LIN to ON.
>
> If using mike input are you using VOX or PTT?
>
> Using PTT via CAT and K3 does key OK, just no audio seems to be TX.
>


From carl at n8vz.com  Thu Jun  4 17:49:22 2015
From: carl at n8vz.com (=?windows-1252?Q?Carl_J=F3n_Denbow?=)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 17:49:22 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Problem with Test TX Data and ALC
In-Reply-To: <5570C788.9000405@nc.rr.com>
References: <5570A68F.10408@n8vz.com> <5570A8DF.5020003@nc.rr.com>
	<5570C43B.5070409@n8vz.com> <5570C788.9000405@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <5570C7E2.9020606@n8vz.com>

Thanks for your help.  See my last post on board.  Everything OK now.

> brian <mailto:alsopb at nc.rr.com>
> Thursday, June 4, 2015 5:47 PM
> Hi Carl.
>
> I meant which K3 mode have you selected?  You should be using digital 
> mode DATA A.   See manual on how to get to this mode.
>
> Use Main Menu "MIC SEL" set to line.
>
> The mic gain control knob on the front panel allows you to set the 
> audio level the K3 sees with line input.
>
> The rear panel line input plug is a mono plug.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Final dumb question.   Are you sure there is audio on the input cable 
> used?
>
> 73 and GL
> de Brian /K3KO
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Carl J?n Denbow <mailto:carl at n8vz.com>
> Thursday, June 4, 2015 5:33 PM
> <<<Which digital mode did you select? >>>
>
> JT9
>
> <<<Are you using mike input or line in input? >>>
>
> Line
>
> <<<If line in, have you adjusted the K3 line in level. >>>
>
> I guess I need instructions about how to do this.  Please see earlier 
> post I made about my inability to find proper menu item.
>
> <<<Make sure you have selected the correct audio input source in the 
> K3 menu. >>>
>
> Perhaps I need instruction about this too, though I set MIC+LIN to ON.
>
> If using mike input are you using VOX or PTT?
>
> Using PTT via CAT and K3 does key OK, just no audio seems to be TX.
>
> 73,
>
> Carl
> N8VZ
>
> brian <mailto:alsopb at nc.rr.com>
> Thursday, June 4, 2015 3:37 PM
> Hi Carl,
> Which digital mode did you select?
>
> Are you using mike input or line in input?
> If line in, have you adjusted the K3 line in level.
>
> Make sure you have selected the correct audio input source in the K3 
> menu.
>
> If using mike input are you using VOX or PTT?
>
> Is the K3 going into transmit?
>
> 73 de Brian/K3KO
>
>
>
> Carl J?n Denbow <mailto:carl at n8vz.com>
> Thursday, June 4, 2015 3:27 PM
> I've been trying to set up my data modes using a SignaLink USB, which 
> I've used with good results with my KX3, with my K3.  I do have the 
> correct K3 jumper board in the SL.  I also have the SignaLink supplied 
> cables hooked up correctly.  I can monitor digital signals just fine.  
> I can not get any TX audio actually transmitted, though Windows 
> indicates that the USB Codec Speaker is getting plenty of audio on 
> TX.  I've tried to use the Test TX DATA routine within the K3 and get 
> no ALC even when Windows indicates that that line has full bore 
> audio.  I'm probably doing something rather simple wrong here, but I 
> can't for the life of me figure out what it might be.  In terms of 
> experience, I'm an old hand at digital modes having run them on 
> numerous rigs, with various computers and external sound card 
> combinations over a number of years.  I'm, however, very new to the K3 
> as I just purchased it used at Dayton this year, and I'm just now 
> trying to hook it up for digital modes.  Thanks for any help you can 
> give.  73 de Carl, N8VZ
> ______________________________________________________________
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=================================================
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carl at n8vz.com
www.n8vz.com
EM89wh

IRLP 4533   Echolink 116070

PSK and JT65 Forever!
=================================================


From carl at n8vz.com  Thu Jun  4 17:51:50 2015
From: carl at n8vz.com (=?windows-1252?Q?Carl_J=F3n_Denbow?=)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 17:51:50 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Problem with Test TX Data and ALC
In-Reply-To: <5570C7A6.3050903@w3fpr.com>
References: <5570A68F.10408@n8vz.com> <5570AA08.3070308@embarqmail.com>
	<5570B45A.1000204@n8vz.com> <5570C402.3090108@w3fpr.com>
	<5570C4A7.20307@n8vz.com> <5570C7A6.3050903@w3fpr.com>
Message-ID: <5570C876.9060805@n8vz.com>

Thanks.  Yes, everything's working now.  I guess my problem was the Line 
Gain at zero and not knowing how to adjust it.  Reading the manual and 
having you point me to the source of the problem were the keys.  Thanks 
again!  73 de Carl, N8VZ

> Don Wilhelm <mailto:don at w3fpr.com>
> Thursday, June 4, 2015 5:48 PM
> Carl,
>
> Yes, because the control defaults to Mic Gain only.  You should not 
> have the mic live for digital modes.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 6/4/2015 5:35 PM, Carl J?n Denbow wrote:
>
> Don Wilhelm <mailto:don at w3fpr.com>
> Thursday, June 4, 2015 5:32 PM
> Carl,
>
> When Line In is selected for input, the MIC Gain control sets the level.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 6/4/2015 4:26 PM, Carl J?n Denbow wrote:
>
> Carl J?n Denbow <mailto:carl at n8vz.com>
> Thursday, June 4, 2015 4:26 PM
> Thanks, Don. I think you are thinking along the right lines here.  The 
> SignaLink instructions, though, indicate that the problem is usually 
> an incorrect setting in the K3 Line In levels.  Here's their exact 
> wording: "Some customers have found that the K3's "Line In" gain (menu 
> setting) is set to zero by default, thereby resulting in no power 
> output when transmitting.  If up experience this problem, then please 
> consult your radio manual for instructions on turning up this 
> control."  My problem is that I can't find the relevant instructions.  
> I find a Config setting for LIN OUT but nothing for Line In levels 
> either in the general of config menus.  Can you tell me where this 
> setting is hidden? ;-)  Tnxs & 73 de Carl, N8VZ
>
>
>
> Don Wilhelm <mailto:w3fpr at embarqmail.com>
> Thursday, June 4, 2015 3:42 PM
> Carl,
>
> I figure you are using the K3 LINE IN jack, and when you used it on 
> the KX3, you used the MIC jack.
> The Line In needs a much larger audio signal than the mic level that 
> your SignaLink is providing.
> There is a jumper you can change in the SL box to increase the audio 
> output level - look for it in the SL manual.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
>
> Carl J?n Denbow <mailto:carl at n8vz.com>
> Thursday, June 4, 2015 3:27 PM
> I've been trying to set up my data modes using a SignaLink USB, which 
> I've used with good results with my KX3, with my K3.  I do have the 
> correct K3 jumper board in the SL.  I also have the SignaLink supplied 
> cables hooked up correctly.  I can monitor digital signals just fine.  
> I can not get any TX audio actually transmitted, though Windows 
> indicates that the USB Codec Speaker is getting plenty of audio on 
> TX.  I've tried to use the Test TX DATA routine within the K3 and get 
> no ALC even when Windows indicates that that line has full bore 
> audio.  I'm probably doing something rather simple wrong here, but I 
> can't for the life of me figure out what it might be.  In terms of 
> experience, I'm an old hand at digital modes having run them on 
> numerous rigs, with various computers and external sound card 
> combinations over a number of years.  I'm, however, very new to the K3 
> as I just purchased it used at Dayton this year, and I'm just now 
> trying to hook it up for digital modes.  Thanks for any help you can 
> give.  73 de Carl, N8VZ
> ______________________________________________________________
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-- 
=================================================
Carl J?n Denbow, N8VZ
17 Coventry Lane
Athens, Ohio 45701-3718

carl at n8vz.com
www.n8vz.com
EM89wh

IRLP 4533   Echolink 116070

PSK and JT65 Forever!
=================================================


From n6kr at elecraft.com  Thu Jun  4 17:58:57 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 14:58:57 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] CQ WPX and the KSYN3A board?
In-Reply-To: <556FF774.8070007@gmail.com>
References: <COL131-W83BAB94AB8C2251790A6BB91B40@phx.gbl>
	<556FF774.8070007@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E4A99768-B143-4FEC-A6ED-83C14BECE5D4@elecraft.com>

Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO <k2vco.vic at gmail.com> wrote:

> ...I found myself working closer than ever to strong signals.
> 
> For what it's worth, there also weren't as many clickers out there as in the past. That's progress.

"They're using K3s," I quipped, clearly guilty of brazen self-promotion.

Wayne
N6KR




From aa4lr at arrl.net  Thu Jun  4 10:37:27 2015
From: aa4lr at arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 10:37:27 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] [Bulk]  MFJ's new Internal K3 Tuner,
	anyone tried one yet?
In-Reply-To: <A6FE1E4F95C54DE58FECEA91ED8F4A26@pinnacle05df05>
References: <CAAuJiTwjVuQMJ_yd3oFz2ed0KKL3XAx3cCRf-Y6vj9V=WkjFmg@mail.gmail.com>
	<55515C9D.5060402@earthlink.net>
	<A6FE1E4F95C54DE58FECEA91ED8F4A26@pinnacle05df05>
Message-ID: <24547A9F-EF45-408D-9E5F-F01C31E9491D@arrl.net>


> On May 11, 2015, at 11:45 PM, Charlie T, K3ICH <pincon at erols.com> wrote:
> 
> This strikes me as quite bizarre.  Do they REALLY think we'd jeopardize our radios to save a hundred bucks on duplicate option???

Perhaps. 

It?s a testament to the success of the K3 that they are offering boards for it. Perhaps this is just the first of many. 

We?ll see.



Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL        Mail: aa4lr at arrl.net
Web: http://boringhamradiopart.blogspot.com
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
           -- Wilbur Wright, 1901


From w7ox at socal.rr.com  Thu Jun  4 19:26:38 2015
From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 16:26:38 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] CQ WPX and the KSYN3A board?
In-Reply-To: <E4A99768-B143-4FEC-A6ED-83C14BECE5D4@elecraft.com>
References: <COL131-W83BAB94AB8C2251790A6BB91B40@phx.gbl>	<556FF774.8070007@gmail.com>
	<E4A99768-B143-4FEC-A6ED-83C14BECE5D4@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <5570DEAE.9020304@socal.rr.com>

Not to worry, Wayne. You're no longer selling K3s 
but K3Ss :-)

73, Phil W7OX

On 6/4/15 2:58 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO <k2vco.vic at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ...I found myself working closer than ever to strong signals.
>>
>> For what it's worth, there also weren't as many clickers out there as in the past. That's progress.
> "They're using K3s," I quipped, clearly guilty of brazen self-promotion.
>
> Wayne
> N6KR


From alsopb at nc.rr.com  Thu Jun  4 20:55:43 2015
From: alsopb at nc.rr.com (brian)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 00:55:43 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] CQ WPX and the KSYN3A board?
In-Reply-To: <5570DEAE.9020304@socal.rr.com>
References: <COL131-W83BAB94AB8C2251790A6BB91B40@phx.gbl>	<556FF774.8070007@gmail.com>	<E4A99768-B143-4FEC-A6ED-83C14BECE5D4@elecraft.com>
	<5570DEAE.9020304@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <5570F38F.6040101@nc.rr.com>

Phil,
You mean the new "S line"   OOPS that's already taken.   It would have 
to the the KS line.

73 de Brian/K3KO

On 6/4/2015 23:26 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
> Not to worry, Wayne. You're no longer selling K3s but K3Ss :-)
>
> 73, Phil W7OX
>
> On 6/4/15 2:58 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO <k2vco.vic at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ...I found myself working closer than ever to strong signals.
>>>
>>> For what it's worth, there also weren't as many clickers out there 
>>> as in the past. That's progress.
>> "They're using K3s," I quipped, clearly guilty of brazen self-promotion.
>>
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>
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From vk1zzgary at gmail.com  Thu Jun  4 21:07:30 2015
From: vk1zzgary at gmail.com (Gary Gregory)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 11:07:30 +1000
Subject: [Elecraft] CQ WPX and the KSYN3A board?
In-Reply-To: <5570F38F.6040101@nc.rr.com>
References: <COL131-W83BAB94AB8C2251790A6BB91B40@phx.gbl>
	<556FF774.8070007@gmail.com>
	<E4A99768-B143-4FEC-A6ED-83C14BECE5D4@elecraft.com>
	<5570DEAE.9020304@socal.rr.com> <5570F38F.6040101@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <CA+MFBaGbc-0Df0ajrQywJzuxvvP0OmYbASTG4eoO0gk+XWWisA@mail.gmail.com>

I wish you guys would stop crowing about it. My k3 is in hospital
undergoing open heart surgery as we speak so i cannot play radio.
Wayne really should go back to work.

:-)

Gary
Vk1ZZ
K3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT
On 05/06/2015 10:56 AM, "brian" <alsopb at nc.rr.com> wrote:

> Phil,
> You mean the new "S line"   OOPS that's already taken.   It would have to
> the the KS line.
>
> 73 de Brian/K3KO
>
> On 6/4/2015 23:26 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
>
>> Not to worry, Wayne. You're no longer selling K3s but K3Ss :-)
>>
>> 73, Phil W7OX
>>
>> On 6/4/15 2:58 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>
>>> Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO <k2vco.vic at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  ...I found myself working closer than ever to strong signals.
>>>>
>>>> For what it's worth, there also weren't as many clickers out there as
>>>> in the past. That's progress.
>>>>
>>> "They're using K3s," I quipped, clearly guilty of brazen self-promotion.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>>
>>
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From w7ox at socal.rr.com  Thu Jun  4 21:07:47 2015
From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 18:07:47 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] CQ WPX and the KSYN3A board?
In-Reply-To: <5570F38F.6040101@nc.rr.com>
References: <COL131-W83BAB94AB8C2251790A6BB91B40@phx.gbl>	<556FF774.8070007@gmail.com>	<E4A99768-B143-4FEC-A6ED-83C14BECE5D4@elecraft.com>	<5570DEAE.9020304@socal.rr.com>
	<5570F38F.6040101@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <5570F663.6030403@socal.rr.com>

My view is that the K3S is part of the K-Line, 
Brian -- an evolved K3.

Phil W7OX

On 6/4/15 5:55 PM, brian wrote:
> Phil,
> You mean the new "S line"   OOPS that's already 
> taken.   It would have to the the KS line.
>
> 73 de Brian/K3KO
>
> On 6/4/2015 23:26 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
>> Not to worry, Wayne. You're no longer selling 
>> K3s but K3Ss :-)
>>
>> 73, Phil W7OX
>>
>> On 6/4/15 2:58 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>> Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO 
>>> <k2vco.vic at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ...I found myself working closer than ever to 
>>>> strong signals.
>>>>
>>>> For what it's worth, there also weren't as 
>>>> many clickers out there as in the past. 
>>>> That's progress.
>>> "They're using K3s," I quipped, clearly guilty 
>>> of brazen self-promotion.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR


From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Thu Jun  4 22:16:01 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Harry Yingst via Elecraft)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 02:16:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Receiver Overload Protection?
Message-ID: <1869901442.5439019.1433470561195.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Does the KX3 have any form of Reciever Overload protection like the K3 does?

If so it would be nice to leave it setup as a secondary radio to my K3 (hooked to a second antenna)
Thank you








From kevin at ve3syb.ca  Thu Jun  4 22:40:27 2015
From: kevin at ve3syb.ca (Kevin Cozens)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 22:40:27 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Ferrite Identification Question
In-Reply-To: <SNT151-DS2651892D8CD9AC3B37E07FA6B30@phx.gbl>
References: <B18DD057-2818-42E8-9F90-97BD64C56C25@me.com>
	<SNT151-DS2651892D8CD9AC3B37E07FA6B30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <55710C1B.1060904@ve3syb.ca>

On 15-06-04 01:12 PM, jim wrote:
> VK1OD had a listing of common ham radio mixes that was helpful in ID'ing mix.

If you know the URL for that page you can check the Internet archive at 
http://archive.org/ to see if it has an archive of the information.

-- 
Cheers!

Kevin.

http://www.ve3syb.ca/           |"Nerds make the shiny things that distract
Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172      | the mouth-breathers, and that's why we're
                                 | powerful!"
#include <disclaimer/favourite> |             --Chris Hardwick

From ditzian at windstream.net  Fri Jun  5 01:16:57 2015
From: ditzian at windstream.net (Jan)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 01:16:57 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] (K3) Low power on some bands
Message-ID: <557130C9.4000803@windstream.net>

A strange thing just occurred.  I have been using my K3 regularly with 
no problem, usually into an amplifier. Recently, I had an amplifier tube 
short and I am using the K3 barefoot.  I was tuning up on 80 and saw 
that my Autek WM-1 said that I was only putting out 70 watts into my old 
1500 watt dry dummy load (SWR<1.35:1).  I checked the power setting and 
it was adjusted to 100 on the K3 display.  I ran through the other 
bands, and now I am fully confused.  Here is what I found, with the K3 
display reading 100 watts at all times:

10 meters     95 watts
12                 90
15                 50
17                 95
20                 95
30                 95
40                 70
80                 70
160               100

Does anyone have an explanation or cure?  Could it just be the old Autek?

73,

Jan, KX2A


From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Jun  5 03:15:01 2015
From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 08:15:01 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Receiver Overload Protection?
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Harry,

Yes it appears to have

from Page 43 of the owners manual:



HI RFI warning, preamp turns off, or RX icon turns on: The KX3 protects itself from high received signal levels. First, the preamp is turned off, if it was on. (You may be able to avoid this by using the 10-dB preamp rather than the 20-dB preamp on the current band. See MENU:PREAMP.) The second step taken by the KX3, if necessary, is to turn on a 15-dB attenuator stage in the I.F. section, ahead of the receiver?s A- to-D converter. The receive overload icon (RX), near the ANT icon, will turn on. Once signals return to a safe level for 5 seconds, this attenuator will be turned back off. Also see COR (next item).

??  Carrier-operated relay activated (a relay is heard, and the RX icon turns on): The carrier-operated- relay (COR) may be activated due to the signal from a nearby transmitter. This is usually due to close proximity between your antenna and the other station?s antenna. The COR is actually the relay for the present low-pass filter. When the relay opens, signals will drop by 40 to 60 dB, protecting the KX3. The relay will close again shortly after the signal drops. If the COR is being repeatedly activated, try moving the antennas farther apart. You can also increase the COR threshold, at your discretion; see MENU:COR LVL. 



73

David Anderson GM4JJJ 

> On 5 Jun 2015, at 03:16, Harry Yingst via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> Does the KX3 have any form of Reciever Overload protection like the K3 does?
> 

From k2vco.vic at gmail.com  Fri Jun  5 03:26:29 2015
From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 10:26:29 +0300
Subject: [Elecraft] (K3) Low power on some bands
In-Reply-To: <557130C9.4000803@windstream.net>
References: <557130C9.4000803@windstream.net>
Message-ID: <55714F25.1020700@gmail.com>

Run the TX Gain calibration procedure in the K3 utility. And try another 
wattmeter!

73,
Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
Rehovot, Israel
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/

On 5 Jun 2015 08:16, Jan wrote:
> A strange thing just occurred.  I have been using my K3 regularly with
> no problem, usually into an amplifier. Recently, I had an amplifier tube
> short and I am using the K3 barefoot.  I was tuning up on 80 and saw
> that my Autek WM-1 said that I was only putting out 70 watts into my old
> 1500 watt dry dummy load (SWR<1.35:1).  I checked the power setting and
> it was adjusted to 100 on the K3 display.  I ran through the other
> bands, and now I am fully confused.  Here is what I found, with the K3
> display reading 100 watts at all times:
>
> 10 meters     95 watts
> 12                 90
> 15                 50
> 17                 95
> 20                 95
> 30                 95
> 40                 70
> 80                 70
> 160               100
>
> Does anyone have an explanation or cure?  Could it just be the old Autek?
>
> 73,
>
> Jan, KX2A

From aa4lr at arrl.net  Thu Jun  4 21:45:20 2015
From: aa4lr at arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 21:45:20 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] [Bulk]  Rear Panel mic connection
In-Reply-To: <85F306FC-AC67-43FB-B5C2-E33921DA06E4@elecraft.com>
References: <5EA274A5-4907-4933-9A0D-9E5065C7FD9E@yahoo.com>
	<85F306FC-AC67-43FB-B5C2-E33921DA06E4@elecraft.com>
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> On May 19, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <eric at elecraft.com> wrote:
> 
> Further on this - We have hundreds of users ( and possibly thousands) happily using the rear panel mic connector with the Heil Headsets. It is the preferred connection for many.

I?ll speak up - I run my Heil Headset this way ? it works great and no problems with any ground loops.


Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL        Mail: aa4lr at arrl.net
Web: http://boringhamradiopart.blogspot.com
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
           -- Wilbur Wright, 1901


From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Fri Jun  5 08:31:41 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Harry Yingst via Elecraft)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 12:31:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Receiver Overload Protection?
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Thanks to all who responded
Looks like I'm good to go







     
   

   

From h3cary at gmail.com  Fri Jun  5 08:50:20 2015
From: h3cary at gmail.com (H. Cary)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 08:50:20 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3-100 FOR SALE
Message-ID: <F33789D9-4BA3-433D-953B-5AD7C98F201D@gmail.com>

K3-100, #3448, for sale includes: auto ant tuner (KAT3), 2nd receiver (KRX3-K), digital voice recorder (KDVR3), general coverage receiver (KBPF3), Rx Ant/IF out/transverter Interface (KXV3A-UPGR), DSP LPF Board (K3 DSPLPF-F), with 500 Hz, 1.8 KHz & 2.7 KHz filters and 
MH-2 Mic.  FACTORY CALIBRATED & ALIGNED April 2015.  New cost well over $4K, yours for $3450 and I will ship/insure CONUS only.  Please contact direct:
H. Cary, K4TM
Lynchburg VA
434-660-8299
H3Cary at gmail.com

Sent from amateur radio station K4TM with my iPad

From gt-i at gmx.net  Fri Jun  5 10:07:35 2015
From: gt-i at gmx.net (gt-i at gmx.net)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:07:35 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 / KX3 receiver observation - need explanation
Message-ID: <5571AD27.6000209@gmx.net>

Hello everybody,
during the WPX contest I noticed some weird sounds in the K2 when tuning 
to strong (>S9+20db) stations.
The sound was distorted, kind of ripple, but it did not sound like 
typical ringing.
I also noticed LZ9W booming in on 80m with S9+40db, producing 3 images 
in the K2 and the KX3. However, in the K2 the 2 ghost signals were 
frequency modulated. How could this happen?
Another big one, LY2W, also produced 3 signals in the KX3 but all the 3 
were nice and clean.

I thought these ghost images would depend on the receiver architecture, 
or am I wrong here?

Regarding the first observation: Since the K2 is already > 10 years old, 
could component aging already play a role. If so, where to look for?

Thanks for any ideas!
73
Gernot
DF5RF



From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Fri Jun  5 10:30:55 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 10:30:55 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 / KX3 receiver observation - need explanation
In-Reply-To: <5571AD27.6000209@gmx.net>
References: <5571AD27.6000209@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <5571B29F.1040206@embarqmail.com>

Gernot,

Because you are hearing the same thing (or almost the same thing) on 2 
receivers, give thought to the possibility that the source may be 
outside the receivers.
Even mild corrosion in the antenna system can produce a connection that 
acts like a diode and will mix strange frequencies together and produce 
unexpected results.

Faulty solder connections in the receiver can produce the same results.  
Yes, unwanted mixing products from strong signals can occur in the 
receiver.  I do not think it is a sign of aging.

I have never seen symptoms like you describe when driving a K2 with a 
very large signal from my workbench signal generator.

Does your K2 have the Extremely Strong Signal Handling mod installed?  
If not, install two 1N4148 diodes back to back across the input to RF 
board U12 - those diodes can be installed either between pins 4 and 6 of 
U12 or across leads 3 and 4 of T7.  The newer schematics identify those 
diodes as D40 and D41.  If you have an older K2 with the 2nd Xtal 
Flattening Mod installed, that covers the leads of T7 and you will have 
to install the diodes across the U12 pins.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/5/2015 10:07 AM, gt-i at gmx.net wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> during the WPX contest I noticed some weird sounds in the K2 when 
> tuning to strong (>S9+20db) stations.
> The sound was distorted, kind of ripple, but it did not sound like 
> typical ringing.
> I also noticed LZ9W booming in on 80m with S9+40db, producing 3 images 
> in the K2 and the KX3. However, in the K2 the 2 ghost signals were 
> frequency modulated. How could this happen?
> Another big one, LY2W, also produced 3 signals in the KX3 but all the 
> 3 were nice and clean.
>
> I thought these ghost images would depend on the receiver 
> architecture, or am I wrong here?
>
> Regarding the first observation: Since the K2 is already > 10 years 
> old, could component aging already play a role. If so, where to look for?
>
> Thanks for any ideas!
> 73
> Gernot
> DF5RF
>
>
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From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Fri Jun  5 10:34:41 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 10:34:41 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] (K3) Low power on some bands
In-Reply-To: <557130C9.4000803@windstream.net>
References: <557130C9.4000803@windstream.net>
Message-ID: <5571B381.5030909@embarqmail.com>

Jan,

Run the TX Gain Calibration.  You may have to borrow a dummy load that 
has a lower SWR if the calibration procedure shows errors.
K3 Utility makes it easy and automatic, but it can be done manually - 
see the Calibration section of the manual.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/5/2015 1:16 AM, Jan wrote:
> A strange thing just occurred.  I have been using my K3 regularly with 
> no problem, usually into an amplifier. Recently, I had an amplifier 
> tube short and I am using the K3 barefoot.  I was tuning up on 80 and 
> saw that my Autek WM-1 said that I was only putting out 70 watts into 
> my old 1500 watt dry dummy load (SWR<1.35:1).  I checked the power 
> setting and it was adjusted to 100 on the K3 display.  I ran through 
> the other bands, and now I am fully confused.  Here is what I found, 
> with the K3 display reading 100 watts at all times:
>
> 10 meters     95 watts
> 12                 90
> 15                 50
> 17                 95
> 20                 95
> 30                 95
> 40                 70
> 80                 70
> 160               100
>
> Does anyone have an explanation or cure?  Could it just be the old Autek?
>
> 73,
>
> Jan, KX2A
>
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From m5kvk at m5kvk.org  Fri Jun  5 11:18:23 2015
From: m5kvk at m5kvk.org (Gareth - M5KVK)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 16:18:23 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3} Charging internal batteries
Message-ID: <CAPFkiauAie9AvufA-KZA7WE0YmtNXda=-M+OaV8=uoVv8qQZZA@mail.gmail.com>

Seems like there's a bit of a battery theme at the moment.

I ahave the KXBC3 intalled with some Eneloop batteries. I notice that when
I plug in the external PSU, the internal battery level increases: even
though I'm not charging.

Does this imply that just having the external PSU connected causes some
charge to go into the internal batteries, or does one always have to use
the internal charger?

73
Gareth, M5KVK

From andrew at ahebden.com  Fri Jun  5 11:25:06 2015
From: andrew at ahebden.com (Andrew Hebden)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 16:25:06 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Receiver Overload Protection?
In-Reply-To: <A359EB76-3300-493F-B304-5378A55D2898@yahoo.co.uk>
References: <1869901442.5439019.1433470561195.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<A359EB76-3300-493F-B304-5378A55D2898@yahoo.co.uk>
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Harry,

Be aware that the preamp does not come back on. I encounter this problem periodically when contesting in the UK (6m UKAC) as I have 2 very strong stations nearby and while tuning through the band if I happen to be on frequency when one of them transmits AND our antennas are pointing roughly at each other the KX3 does the full close down as David describes.
On odd occasions I can be working someone near the noise level and one of the locals fires up close to my frequency, this shuts everything down and by the time I've recovered the DX station can have gone. I am looking into using an external 6m preamp but I will probably experience the same issue.

Best of luck.
Andrew
G8BYB

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:] On Behalf Of David Anderson
Sent: 05 June 2015 08:15
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Receiver Overload Protection?


Harry,

Yes it appears to have

from Page 43 of the owners manual:



HI RFI warning, preamp turns off, or RX icon turns on: The KX3 protects itself from high received signal levels. First, the preamp is turned off, if it was on. (You may be able to avoid this by using the 10-dB preamp rather than the 20-dB preamp on the current band. See MENU:PREAMP.) The second step taken by the KX3, if necessary, is to turn on a 15-dB attenuator stage in the I.F. section, ahead of the receiver s A- to-D converter. The receive overload icon (RX), near the ANT icon, will turn on. Once signals return to a safe level for 5 seconds, this attenuator will be turned back off. Also see COR (next item).

 ?  Carrier-operated relay activated (a relay is heard, and the RX icon turns on): The carrier-operated- relay (COR) may be activated due to the signal from a nearby transmitter. This is usually due to close proximity between your antenna and the other station s antenna. The COR is actually the relay for the present low-pass filter. When the relay opens, signals will drop by 40 to 60 dB, protecting the KX3. The relay will close again shortly after the signal drops. If the COR is being repeatedly activated, try moving the antennas farther apart. You can also increase the COR threshold, at your discretion; see MENU:COR LVL. 



73

David Anderson GM4JJJ 

> On 5 Jun 2015, at 03:16, Harry Yingst via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> Does the KX3 have any form of Reciever Overload protection like the K3 does?
> 
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From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Fri Jun  5 11:40:50 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 11:40:50 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3} Charging internal batteries
In-Reply-To: <CAPFkiauAie9AvufA-KZA7WE0YmtNXda=-M+OaV8=uoVv8qQZZA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPFkiauAie9AvufA-KZA7WE0YmtNXda=-M+OaV8=uoVv8qQZZA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5571C302.1040904@embarqmail.com>

Gareth,

The internal battery voltage does not increase.  You have to understand 
what the VFO voltage reading is telling you.  It reads the highest 
supply voltage, not always the internal battery voltage.

If you are looking at the VFO B voltage display, you will see the 
highest supply voltage applied.  So, if your external supply is at a 
higher voltage than the internal batteries, that voltage is what you 
will read.  If you want to see the voltage of the internal batteries 
only, you will need to disconnect the external supply.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/5/2015 11:18 AM, Gareth - M5KVK wrote:
> Seems like there's a bit of a battery theme at the moment.
>
> I ahave the KXBC3 intalled with some Eneloop batteries. I notice that when
> I plug in the external PSU, the internal battery level increases: even
> though I'm not charging.
>
> Does this imply that just having the external PSU connected causes some
> charge to go into the internal batteries, or does one always have to use
> the internal charger?
>
>


From arlenfletcher at mac.com  Fri Jun  5 12:24:43 2015
From: arlenfletcher at mac.com (Arlen Fletcher)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 09:24:43 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3} Charging internal batteries
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	<5571C302.1040904@embarqmail.com>
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Well, that?s one way to do it. On my KX3 I simply turn the VFO B knob until the display is showing PS voltage, or BT voltage, whichever I desire.

73,

Arlen - AA7F

> On Jun 5, 2015, at 8:40 AM, Don Wilhelm <w3fpr at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Gareth,
> 
> The internal battery voltage does not increase.  You have to understand what the VFO voltage reading is telling you.  It reads the highest supply voltage, not always the internal battery voltage.
> 
> If you are looking at the VFO B voltage display, you will see the highest supply voltage applied.  So, if your external supply is at a higher voltage than the internal batteries, that voltage is what you will read.  If you want to see the voltage of the internal batteries only, you will need to disconnect the external supply.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 6/5/2015 11:18 AM, Gareth - M5KVK wrote:
>> Seems like there's a bit of a battery theme at the moment.
>> 
>> I ahave the KXBC3 intalled with some Eneloop batteries. I notice that when
>> I plug in the external PSU, the internal battery level increases: even
>> though I'm not charging.
>> 
>> Does this imply that just having the external PSU connected causes some
>> charge to go into the internal batteries, or does one always have to use
>> the internal charger?
>> 
>> 
> 
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From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Fri Jun  5 12:27:53 2015
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 09:27:53 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] W6DRX's K3 For Sale
Message-ID: <5571CE09.9060408@audiosystemsgroup.com>

My neighbor and good friend W6DRX is moving with his XYL from his home 
to live on a boat that they have bought, and he's selling all of his ham 
gear. The most interesting, of course, is his K3, s/n 1005, which he 
built from the kit. He takes VERY good care of his gear, but he's also 
been inactive due to health problems (open heart surgery) and a heavy 
work schedule, so his gear is lightly used and in beautiful condition.

His K3/100 includes
KAT3
KXV3
400 Hz 8-pole filter
1.8 kHz 8-pole filter

Asking $2,600. This radio as a kit last month would have cost $3,250, 
but it's already built. A factory assembled K3 like this would have cost 
about $3,600. For $210, you can add the new KSYN3A board and have 98% of 
a K3S. He's also willing to sell the radio without one or both of the 
filters. You pay actual shipping costs.

Pat also has an un-built KRX3 kit. Asking $540. It's the same as what 
you could buy today for $600.

Please email me direct. k9yc at arrl.net

73, Jim K9YC

From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Jun  5 13:38:49 2015
From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 18:38:49 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3} Charging internal batteries
In-Reply-To: <5571C302.1040904@embarqmail.com>
References: <CAPFkiauAie9AvufA-KZA7WE0YmtNXda=-M+OaV8=uoVv8qQZZA@mail.gmail.com>
	<5571C302.1040904@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <E52B1459-2E51-44A5-BE65-E261C0AF094E@yahoo.co.uk>

Gareth 

There are two separate choices for reading PS (external) and BT (internal). The PS one however shows the internal battery volts when there is no PS connected. With my PSU disconnected PS says 8.2V and BT says 8.2V
Connect  the PSU and PS reads 13.4V and BT reads 8.5V. 

So what you are seeing Gareth is the same as me. ( I don't believe the battery is being charged very much at all under this circumstance). If you leave it for an extended period it will not charge the battery fully, for that you need to set the BAT CHG on.

What I <think> is happening is that with the PSU connected and the radio now being powered from the PSU not the internal batteries, the batteries can recover from the load that they were subjected to while running the radio without the PSU.



73

David Anderson GM4JJJ 

> On 5 Jun 2015, at 16:40, Don Wilhelm <w3fpr at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Gareth,
> 
> The internal battery voltage does not increase.  You have to understand what the VFO voltage reading is telling you.  It reads the highest supply voltage, not always the internal battery voltage.
> 
> If you are looking at the VFO B voltage display, you will see the highest supply voltage applied.  So, if your external supply is at a higher voltage than the internal batteries, that voltage is what you will read.  If you want to see the voltage of the internal batteries only, you will need to disconnect the external supply.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 6/5/2015 11:18 AM, Gareth - M5KVK wrote:
>> Seems like there's a bit of a battery theme at the moment.
>> 
>> I ahave the KXBC3 intalled with some Eneloop batteries. I notice that when
>> I plug in the external PSU, the internal battery level increases: even
>> though I'm not charging.
>> 
>> Does this imply that just having the external PSU connected causes some
>> charge to go into the internal batteries, or does one always have to use
>> the internal charger?
> 
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From b.bill.p at gmail.com  Fri Jun  5 14:33:40 2015
From: b.bill.p at gmail.com (BillP)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 11:33:40 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 2METER Module questions/problems
Message-ID: <1F358AD8-21DD-410B-BCB4-301F47A8EEA9@gmail.com>


KX-3 (2517) with Elecraft Mic and all features & modules.
SSB and FM modes on VHF is terrible while HF SSB is clean.

Elecraft cable sets, Firmware loaded for the 2M module and updated again this morning.

Problem 1: Zero SSB output on my VHF power meter no matter the mic setting but the RF does travel to a nearby SSB monitor receiver, I can hear my voice with lots of hash and it is not Mic feedback but hash noise that will trigger an external amp giving constant output instead of following the voice peaks or no voice.  Mic gain from 5 - 50, Compression is zero.

Problem 2: There is a lot of hash audio noise in the SSB monitor signal when there is no speech there is some SSB output strength on the monitor receiver, ditto for the tune mode.  Mic gain can be varied 2-10 with the noise audible from the monitor receiver (FT817)  Compression level is zero.  

HF SSB has had no complaints.   

Thanks for your help, Bill K6ACJ SERIAL 2517

Antenna, SWR bridge, coax and power sources verified by using another all mode FM/SSB radio (FT-817).



Sent from my iPad

From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Jun  5 14:58:33 2015
From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 19:58:33 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Receiver Overload Protection?
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	<000301d09fa3$cd982410$68c86c30$@ahebden.com>
Message-ID: <810A1841-D287-4E9D-B29C-71694E0BAB21@yahoo.co.uk>

Thanks for the heads up, I will watch for that on 144MHz here. Without a mast head preamp I need the internal preamp on the 14 MHz IF with my KX3 plus transverter. I suspect once I put the mast head preamp up that for best dynamic range and still good overall NF I won't need the preamp in the KX3. I'm pretty sure I modelled that a while ago anyway.

73

David Anderson GM4JJJ 

> On 5 Jun 2015, at 16:25, Andrew Hebden <andrew at ahebden.com> wrote:
> 
> Harry,
> 
> Be aware that the preamp does not come back on. I encounter this problem periodically when contesting in the UK (6m UKAC) as I have 2 very strong stations nearby and while tuning through the band if I happen to be on frequency when one of them transmits AND our antennas are pointing roughly at each other the KX3 does the full close down as David describes.
> On odd occasions I can be working someone near the noise level and one of the locals fires up close to my frequency, this shuts everything down and by the time I've recovered the DX station can have gone. I am looking into using an external 6m preamp but I will probably experience the same issue.
> 
> Best of luck.
> Andrew
> G8BYB
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:] On Behalf Of David Anderson
> Sent: 05 June 2015 08:15
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Receiver Overload Protection?
> 
> 
> Harry,
> 
> Yes it appears to have
> 
> from Page 43 of the owners manual:
> 
> 
> 
> HI RFI warning, preamp turns off, or RX icon turns on: The KX3 protects itself from high received signal levels. First, the preamp is turned off, if it was on. (You may be able to avoid this by using the 10-dB preamp rather than the 20-dB preamp on the current band. See MENU:PREAMP.) The second step taken by the KX3, if necessary, is to turn on a 15-dB attenuator stage in the I.F. section, ahead of the receiver s A- to-D converter. The receive overload icon (RX), near the ANT icon, will turn on. Once signals return to a safe level for 5 seconds, this attenuator will be turned back off. Also see COR (next item).
> 
> ?  Carrier-operated relay activated (a relay is heard, and the RX icon turns on): The carrier-operated- relay (COR) may be activated due to the signal from a nearby transmitter. This is usually due to close proximity between your antenna and the other station s antenna. The COR is actually the relay for the present low-pass filter. When the relay opens, signals will drop by 40 to 60 dB, protecting the KX3. The relay will close again shortly after the signal drops. If the COR is being repeatedly activated, try moving the antennas farther apart. You can also increase the COR threshold, at your discretion; see MENU:COR LVL. 
> 
> 
> 
> 73
> 
> David Anderson GM4JJJ 
> 
>> On 5 Jun 2015, at 03:16, Harry Yingst via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Does the KX3 have any form of Reciever Overload protection like the K3 does?
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From w2apf at myfairpoint.net  Fri Jun  5 15:43:02 2015
From: w2apf at myfairpoint.net (Thaire Bryant)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 19:43:02 -0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Buddipole system for sale
Message-ID: <004a01d09fc7$d6b07060$84115120$@myfairpoint.net>

Used, but not abused.

 

Includes:  Mini-Buddipole kit with shockcord mast(8'), rotating arm kit,
center tee adapter, 2/radial wire assemblies with counterpoise wire adapter,
1/low band radial wire assembly with counterpoise adapter, 2/standard
antenna arms(knurled), 2/long telescopic whips (knurled),

2/Standard telescopic whips (chrome, knurled), low band coil, buddipole
tripod, buddipole mast, vertical antenna clamp, 1/shockcord whip(9.5'),
choke balun, triple ratio switch balun, extra coil clips, antenna system
carry bag, Buddipole in the Field by Scott Anderson.

 

All list for $1,000.  Asking 600.00 delivered US.

 

Thaire  W2APF

 


From larry at rn.org  Fri Jun  5 17:49:10 2015
From: larry at rn.org (Larry Snyder)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 16:49:10 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Headphones and Mic/Speaker connected to the Back of K3
Message-ID: <130c01d09fd9$756160a0$602421e0$@rn.org>

If I connect my Pro-7 headset as well as the PR-781 Mic to the back of the
K3, how do I select which audio source I want to use with the K3?

 

73s  HK2LS / Larry

 

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From droese at necg.de  Fri Jun  5 17:54:28 2015
From: droese at necg.de (=?windows-1252?Q?Oliver_Dr=F6se?=)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 23:54:28 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 / KX3 receiver observation - need explanation
In-Reply-To: <5571AD27.6000209@gmx.net>
References: <5571AD27.6000209@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <55721A94.5000904@necg.de>

Hi Gernot,

as I am hearing lots of similar signals from a few of the very very big 
guns here in Europe contest after contest and no matter if using my 
K3's, the KX3, or whatever other rig (i.e. FT-817, TS-590, ...), I'd 
suppose this is rather a TX quality problem of them than one with your 
receivers. If you would hear it on *every* strong signal than it would 
sound like an RX problem but I suppose you also heard all the strong but 
clean signals, did you?

73, Olli - DH8BQA

Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de


Am 05.06.2015 um 16:07 schrieb gt-i at gmx.net:
> Hello everybody,
> during the WPX contest I noticed some weird sounds in the K2 when 
> tuning to strong (>S9+20db) stations.
> The sound was distorted, kind of ripple, but it did not sound like 
> typical ringing.
> I also noticed LZ9W booming in on 80m with S9+40db, producing 3 images 
> in the K2 and the KX3. However, in the K2 the 2 ghost signals were 
> frequency modulated. How could this happen?
> Another big one, LY2W, also produced 3 signals in the KX3 but all the 
> 3 were nice and clean.
>
> I thought these ghost images would depend on the receiver 
> architecture, or am I wrong here?
>
> Regarding the first observation: Since the K2 is already > 10 years 
> old, could component aging already play a role. If so, where to look for?
>
> Thanks for any ideas!
> 73
> Gernot
> DF5RF
>
>
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From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Fri Jun  5 18:24:42 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 18:24:42 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Headphones and Mic/Speaker connected to the Back of
 K3
In-Reply-To: <130c01d09fd9$756160a0$602421e0$@rn.org>
References: <130c01d09fd9$756160a0$602421e0$@rn.org>
Message-ID: <557221AA.2020805@embarqmail.com>

Larry,

There is only one mic jack in the back, so I am not sure how you plug 2 
microphones into one 3.5mm jack.
You can plug one into the front 8 pin Foster jack and the other into the 
rear jack - switch between them in the MIC SEL menu.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/5/2015 5:49 PM, Larry Snyder wrote:
> If I connect my Pro-7 headset as well as the PR-781 Mic to the back of the
> K3, how do I select which audio source I want to use with the K3?
>
>


From carl at n8vz.com  Fri Jun  5 20:19:49 2015
From: carl at n8vz.com (=?windows-1252?Q?Carl_J=F3n_Denbow?=)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 20:19:49 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] ALC Data Mode Question
Message-ID: <55723CA5.2080801@n8vz.com>

I have ALC set so that I get four bars, with the fourth bar solid most 
of the time but flickering every now and then.  Is that the right 
amount, or should it be four solid bars all the time with the fifth one 
flickering every now and then?  Tnxs & 73 Carl, N8VZ

From davidahrendts at me.com  Fri Jun  5 20:37:02 2015
From: davidahrendts at me.com (David Ahrendts)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 17:37:02 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] AFX MD Delay
Message-ID: <DAD60078-13AA-4A03-B49D-6E55B78F20AB@me.com>

Wayne and Eric, this is fabulous audio design and I really love it on my KX3 and, I?m sure, on my yet-to-be-shipped/built K3S. It appears to be more than just a delay/reverb effect. Am I hearing just a delay left-to-right? Quasi-stereo? Or??
In any case, it is quite effective. Feels three-dimensional. Not flat. Very nice. Especially with phones. And I?m building some EQ?d Audio Engine 2 small speakers that really are effective with AFX MD Delay.

David Ahrendts, KC0XT, Los Angeles 



David Ahrendts   davidahrendts at me.com   





From inventor61 at gmail.com  Fri Jun  5 22:55:11 2015
From: inventor61 at gmail.com (inventor61 .)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 22:55:11 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] KXV3A for sale
Message-ID: <CAHmQzTmJEoF0kXXUkmPkYAWd6ep3Qvfubdr79R31hy06dfS8Hw@mail.gmail.com>

I am selling the KXV3A module from my K3 #6108.

I have replaced it with the KXV3B.

I am including the unused accessories included with the new unit,
along with the original printed documentation.

This would be an ideal addition to a K3 that didn't have this interface
before,
and is being offered at a substantial discount to the current model.

$125 includes insured domestic USPS Priority Mail shipping.  PayPal
preferred.


Steve KZ1X/4

From k2vco.vic at gmail.com  Sat Jun  6 02:36:36 2015
From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 09:36:36 +0300
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 / KX3 receiver observation - need explanation
In-Reply-To: <55721A94.5000904@necg.de>
References: <5571AD27.6000209@gmx.net> <55721A94.5000904@necg.de>
Message-ID: <CF2B4BE7-7676-4F56-B033-36F2B1577BF2@gmail.com>

Perhaps it was 3-phase hum? The really big amps run on 400V 3-phase circuits (no, Elecraft won't be making these)!

Vic 4X6GP/K2VCO 

> On Jun 6, 2015, at 12:54 AM, Oliver Dr?se <droese at necg.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gernot,
> 
> as I am hearing lots of similar signals from a few of the very very big guns here in Europe contest after contest and no matter if using my K3's, the KX3, or whatever other rig (i.e. FT-817, TS-590, ...), I'd suppose this is rather a TX quality problem of them than one with your receivers. If you would hear it on *every* strong signal than it would sound like an RX problem but I suppose you also heard all the strong but clean signals, did you?
> 
> 73, Olli - DH8BQA
> 
> Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de
> 
> 
>> Am 05.06.2015 um 16:07 schrieb gt-i at gmx.net:
>> Hello everybody,
>> during the WPX contest I noticed some weird sounds in the K2 when tuning to strong (>S9+20db) stations.
>> The sound was distorted, kind of ripple, but it did not sound like typical ringing.
>> I also noticed LZ9W booming in on 80m with S9+40db, producing 3 images in the K2 and the KX3. However, in the K2 the 2 ghost signals were frequency modulated. How could this happen?
>> Another big one, LY2W, also produced 3 signals in the KX3 but all the 3 were nice and clean.
>> 
>> I thought these ghost images would depend on the receiver architecture, or am I wrong here?
>> 
>> Regarding the first observation: Since the K2 is already > 10 years old, could component aging already play a role. If so, where to look for?
>> 
>> Thanks for any ideas!
>> 73
>> Gernot
>> DF5RF
>> 

From dm4im at t-online.de  Sat Jun  6 06:25:12 2015
From: dm4im at t-online.de (Martin)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 12:25:12 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Ferrite Identification Question
In-Reply-To: <mailman.12411.1433572560.22967.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.12411.1433572560.22967.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <5572CA88.3080507@t-online.de>

Elecrafters,

If you have totally unknown toroids, this useful program should help:

Download , copy to your favourite folder and run (linux users run it 
under wine).

miniRingkernRechner.exe (miniToroidCalculator)from here:

http://www.df7sx.de/?page_id=212

Read HELP

Set your language , then klick on TOOLS.

Measure ID OD and height of your toroid. Enter the data.

Wind some windings of wire onto the toroid ,measure the inductance and 
enter the measured data.

Now klick Unknown Toroids and take over the measured data from TOOLS.

The program will not tell you the manufacturer or type, but it will tell 
you what you can expect from the toroid.

With the knowledge of the calculated data you might now be able to 
identify the toroid by searching through manufacturers lists.

There are other useful tools on this site, e.g. a dB-Calculator and a 
Coax Stub Calculator.

Enjoy.



-- 

Ohne CW ist es nur CB..

73, Martin DM4iM

From k2mk at comcast.net  Sat Jun  6 10:21:35 2015
From: k2mk at comcast.net (Mike K2MK)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 07:21:35 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] ALC Data Mode Question
In-Reply-To: <55723CA5.2080801@n8vz.com>
References: <55723CA5.2080801@n8vz.com>
Message-ID: <1433600495547-7603753.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hi Carl,

Four bars solid and the 5th bar flickering is the correct way to do it.

73,
Mike K2MK


Carl J?n Denbow wrote
> I have ALC set so that I get four bars, with the fourth bar solid most 
> of the time but flickering every now and then.  Is that the right 
> amount, or should it be four solid bars all the time with the fifth one 
> flickering every now and then?  Tnxs & 73 Carl, N8VZ





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From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Sat Jun  6 11:23:23 2015
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 08:23:23 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Ferrite Identification Question
In-Reply-To: <5572CA88.3080507@t-online.de>
References: <mailman.12411.1433572560.22967.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
	<5572CA88.3080507@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <5573106B.30208@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On Sat,6/6/2015 3:25 AM, Martin wrote:
> If you have totally unknown toroids, this useful program should help:

Not necessarily. This program and the measurements upon which it depends 
tell us about the INDUCTANCE of a core, but NOT the RESISTANCE. When we 
use ferrites for suppression (common mode chokes) we are using the 
RESISTANCE.

73, Jim K9YC

From jbollit at outlook.com  Sat Jun  6 11:48:47 2015
From: jbollit at outlook.com (jim)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 08:48:47 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Ferrite Identification Question
In-Reply-To: <5572CA88.3080507@t-online.de>
References: <mailman.12411.1433572560.22967.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
	<5572CA88.3080507@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <SNT151-DS125CCE39BB5C9556C9EB53A6B10@phx.gbl>

The best way to determine the core performance is to do what the
manufacturer does.

Use an analyzer to look a Ui and U''i over frequency to get an idea of the
material type.

The 2nd best way is to wind a few turns to see what the Rs is over the
frequency of interest.

The best is to build an actual unit and measure the parameters listed above
AND resonant frequencies of the unit.

What you think is happening, most likely is not.

The "wives" tale associated with the Ugly Balun is just that.  Put an Ugly
Balun on an analyzer, and very few would use them.

Jim
W6AIM




-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 3:25 AM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Ferrite Identification Question

Elecrafters,

If you have totally unknown toroids, this useful program should help:

Download , copy to your favourite folder and run (linux users run it under
wine).

miniRingkernRechner.exe (miniToroidCalculator)from here:

http://www.df7sx.de/?page_id=212

Read HELP

Set your language , then klick on TOOLS.

Measure ID OD and height of your toroid. Enter the data.

Wind some windings of wire onto the toroid ,measure the inductance and enter
the measured data.

Now klick Unknown Toroids and take over the measured data from TOOLS.

The program will not tell you the manufacturer or type, but it will tell you
what you can expect from the toroid.

With the knowledge of the calculated data you might now be able to identify
the toroid by searching through manufacturers lists.

There are other useful tools on this site, e.g. a dB-Calculator and a Coax
Stub Calculator.

Enjoy.



-- 

Ohne CW ist es nur CB..

73, Martin DM4iM
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From w4as at bellsouth.net  Sat Jun  6 13:23:02 2015
From: w4as at bellsouth.net (Sebastian)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 13:23:02 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] ERR XV3
Message-ID: <C80B28CB-65E1-43C7-8AE8-0D257F269DB4@bellsouth.net>

I received today the new KXV3B module, and installed it in my K3 serial number 05864, using K3 Utility Revision 1.15.5.1.

I also updated my K3 firmware, to revision 05.26.  I completed the Milliwatt TX Gain Calibration (since I also have an XV222).  For good measure, I also completed both the 5 and 50 watt calibration, using an old Heathkit Cantenna.  All of those completed with no errors.

However, upon powering up the K3, I see the ?ERR XV3? message.

I have twice removed and reinstalled the module, everything visually appears to be ok.  Since I had the original KXV3 module, I did not open the bottom of the case, and I used the same TMP cable.

Using the menu settings, I show that PREAMP2 is off, it cannot be changed. KXV3 is ?nor'; I can however cycle through ?not inSt? and ?tESt?.  ATTEN is 10 db and also cannot be changed.

What puzzles me is that my 222 MHz transverter appears to be functioning, which of course is installed to the KXV3B module.  And the IF Output port is functioning since I have it installed with an external SDR (Elad FDM-S1).  Additionally, while I do not have a different antenna for receive, the RX ANT switch appears to be working, as pressing it heavily attenuates and/or removes signals completely.

Since it is the weekend and I won?t be able to reach Elecraft, I would appreciate any suggestions, or perhaps something that I may have missed that I did not describe above.

73 de Sebastian, W4AS


From w0eb at cox.net  Sat Jun  6 13:32:52 2015
From: w0eb at cox.net (Jim Sheldon)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 12:32:52 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] ERR XV3
In-Reply-To: <d5Q81q01r45oxQM015Q9YX>
References: <d5Q81q01r45oxQM015Q9YX>
Message-ID: <138FBF48-4855-4140-BE8B-FEF9E7D2F4E2@cox.net>

I have exactly the same problem here.  My K3 doesn't recognize the KXV3B.  I triple checked the install.  Funny, but the RX-IN works and my original VLF mod works fine and it depends on the XV3's RX-IN jack so contrary to my thinking I have a defective module, I suspect a problem in FW beta 5.26 that doesn't show up on the factory lab's K3's.  Mine's #5027.

Jim, W0EB

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 6, 2015, at 12:23 PM, Sebastian <w4as at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> 
> I received today the new KXV3B module, and installed it in my K3 serial number 05864, using K3 Utility Revision 1.15.5.1.
> 
> I also updated my K3 firmware, to revision 05.26.  I completed the Milliwatt TX Gain Calibration (since I also have an XV222).  For good measure, I also completed both the 5 and 50 watt calibration, using an old Heathkit Cantenna.  All of those completed with no errors.
> 
> However, upon powering up the K3, I see the ?ERR XV3? message.
> 
> I have twice removed and reinstalled the module, everything visually appears to be ok.  Since I had the original KXV3 module, I did not open the bottom of the case, and I used the same TMP cable.
> 
> Using the menu settings, I show that PREAMP2 is off, it cannot be changed. KXV3 is ?nor'; I can however cycle through ?not inSt? and ?tESt?.  ATTEN is 10 db and also cannot be changed.
> 
> What puzzles me is that my 222 MHz transverter appears to be functioning, which of course is installed to the KXV3B module.  And the IF Output port is functioning since I have it installed with an external SDR (Elad FDM-S1).  Additionally, while I do not have a different antenna for receive, the RX ANT switch appears to be working, as pressing it heavily attenuates and/or removes signals completely.
> 
> Since it is the weekend and I won?t be able to reach Elecraft, I would appreciate any suggestions, or perhaps something that I may have missed that I did not describe above.
> 
> 73 de Sebastian, W4AS
> 
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From k2av.guy at gmail.com  Sat Jun  6 16:41:40 2015
From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 16:41:40 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] ERR XV3
In-Reply-To: <138FBF48-4855-4140-BE8B-FEF9E7D2F4E2@cox.net>
References: <138FBF48-4855-4140-BE8B-FEF9E7D2F4E2@cox.net>
Message-ID: <CANckpc3ERxPHcSA9DxZnt_qbx7re-5wm7od7xeQrJCKWujOpyA@mail.gmail.com>

I'm not at home to check, but isn't there a CONFIG: setting required for
that?   73, Guy K2AV

On Saturday, June 6, 2015, Jim Sheldon <w0eb at cox.net> wrote:

> I have exactly the same problem here.  My K3 doesn't recognize the KXV3B.
> I triple checked the install.  Funny, but the RX-IN works and my original
> VLF mod works fine and it depends on the XV3's RX-IN jack so contrary to my
> thinking I have a defective module, I suspect a problem in FW beta 5.26
> that doesn't show up on the factory lab's K3's.  Mine's #5027.
>
> Jim, W0EB
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jun 6, 2015, at 12:23 PM, Sebastian <w4as at bellsouth.net
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > I received today the new KXV3B module, and installed it in my K3 serial
> number 05864, using K3 Utility Revision 1.15.5.1.
> >
> > I also updated my K3 firmware, to revision 05.26.  I completed the
> Milliwatt TX Gain Calibration (since I also have an XV222).  For good
> measure, I also completed both the 5 and 50 watt calibration, using an old
> Heathkit Cantenna.  All of those completed with no errors.
> >
> > However, upon powering up the K3, I see the ?ERR XV3? message.
> >
> > I have twice removed and reinstalled the module, everything visually
> appears to be ok.  Since I had the original KXV3 module, I did not open the
> bottom of the case, and I used the same TMP cable.
> >
> > Using the menu settings, I show that PREAMP2 is off, it cannot be
> changed. KXV3 is ?nor'; I can however cycle through ?not inSt? and ?tESt?.
> ATTEN is 10 db and also cannot be changed.
> >
> > What puzzles me is that my 222 MHz transverter appears to be
> functioning, which of course is installed to the KXV3B module.  And the IF
> Output port is functioning since I have it installed with an external SDR
> (Elad FDM-S1).  Additionally, while I do not have a different antenna for
> receive, the RX ANT switch appears to be working, as pressing it heavily
> attenuates and/or removes signals completely.
> >
> > Since it is the weekend and I won?t be able to reach Elecraft, I would
> appreciate any suggestions, or perhaps something that I may have missed
> that I did not describe above.
> >
> > 73 de Sebastian, W4AS
> >
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From gt-i at gmx.net  Sat Jun  6 17:12:12 2015
From: gt-i at gmx.net (gt-i at gmx.net)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 23:12:12 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 / KX3 receiver observation - need explanation
In-Reply-To: <55721A94.5000904@necg.de>
References: <5571AD27.6000209@gmx.net> <55721A94.5000904@necg.de>
Message-ID: <5573622C.9000109@gmx.net>

Hi Olli,
yep, this might be the case ... but I did not check during the contest 
using other receivers than those mentioned - I was quite busy :-)
73, Gernot DF5RF


From gt-i at gmx.net  Sat Jun  6 17:18:04 2015
From: gt-i at gmx.net (gt-i at gmx.net)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 23:18:04 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 / KX3 receiver observation - need explanation
In-Reply-To: <5571B29F.1040206@embarqmail.com>
References: <5571AD27.6000209@gmx.net> <5571B29F.1040206@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <5573638C.8060100@gmx.net>

Don,
thanks for the hints. The K2 is almost original with some simple mods 
that had been published during the "early days".
I pulled out my XG3 and tried to reproduce the problem. But I could not 
hear a clean 2nd or 3rd signal, but a lot of hard noise nearby.
I guess the XG3 is just not clean enough - on my scope it produces 
squares not a sine -  to let me do this comparison.

I guess I need to do some more observations to nail it down.
Tnx, 73 Gernot, DF5RF

From dick at dkHanson.com  Sat Jun  6 17:25:25 2015
From: dick at dkHanson.com (Dick Hanson)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 21:25:25 -0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KXV3B install and enable.....in K3
Message-ID: <000601d0a09f$4e00bda0$ea0238e0$@dkHanson.com>

Hello.

Just back on list, so may have missed the answer to this.

 

Installed the above today in SN6141, with 5.14 firmware.

At the end of the installation booklet, it says to refer to the Owner's
Manual for enable instructions.

When I turn it on now, it gives and "err xv3" message.

 

Must be missing something here, but I surely don't have a K3S yet, so no
'current' manual.

 

Anybody been down this path recently?

 

Thank you.

 

Dick, K5AND

 

 



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From w0eb at cox.net  Sat Jun  6 17:26:36 2015
From: w0eb at cox.net (Jim Sheldon)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 21:26:36 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] ERR XV3
In-Reply-To: <d8hD1q00B3sqBYZ018hftp>
Message-ID: <em32259ba8-2797-42be-8144-f959184c7bfd@hamradio-pc>

Yes there is, but it doesn't work because the K3 (not K3S) firmware is 
not recognizing the KXV3B module or at least not recognizing some parts 
of it.  Some of the hardware apparently works for some people and not 
for others.  I'm thinking this may depend on the age of the K3?  Mine is 
#5027 just for reference.

The IF output to the P3 works just fine for me, the RX-IN works and I 
don't have the internal 2 meter transverter or any external transverters 
installed.  Also, the 1 milliwat transmitter gain calibration completed 
with no problem according to the utility program.  I can not, however 
enable Preamp 2 in the menu and I get ERR XV3 every time the K3 is 
turned on.

I have removed and re-installed the KXV3B module 3 times, checked for 
proper seating of the connector pins and checked to ensure they were in 
the right socket positions all with the exact same results.  I even 
re-downloaded and re-installed the version 5.26 beta firmware to rule 
out a download glitch in the zip file.

We'll most likely have to wait for the guys to get back from Pacific Con 
and get to work Monday for them to address this unless the firmware 
engineer for the XV3 module happens to check the reflector or the 
"support at elecraft" email and is able to address the situation.

Jim - W0EB

------ Original Message ------
From: "Guy Olinger K2AV" <k2av.guy at gmail.com>
To: "Jim Sheldon" <w0eb at cox.net>
Cc: "Sebastian" <w4as at bellsouth.net>; "Elecraft" 
<elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: 6/6/2015 3:41:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ERR XV3

>I'm not at home to check, but isn't there a CONFIG: setting required 
>for that?   73, Guy K2AV
>
>On Saturday, June 6, 2015, Jim Sheldon <w0eb at cox.net> wrote:
>>I have exactly the same problem here.  My K3 doesn't recognize the 
>>KXV3B.  I triple checked the install.  Funny, but the RX-IN works and 
>>my original VLF mod works fine and it depends on the XV3's RX-IN jack 
>>so contrary to my thinking I have a defective module, I suspect a 
>>problem in FW beta 5.26 that doesn't show up on the factory lab's 
>>K3's.  Mine's #5027.
>>
>>Jim, W0EB
>>
>>Sent from my iPad
>>
>> > On Jun 6, 2015, at 12:23 PM, Sebastian <w4as at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > I received today the new KXV3B module, and installed it in my K3 
>>serial number 05864, using K3 Utility Revision 1.15.5.1.
>> >
>> > I also updated my K3 firmware, to revision 05.26.  I completed the 
>>Milliwatt TX Gain Calibration (since I also have an XV222).  For good 
>>measure, I also completed both the 5 and 50 watt calibration, using an 
>>old Heathkit Cantenna.  All of those completed with no errors.
>> >
>> > However, upon powering up the K3, I see the ?ERR XV3? message.
>> >
>> > I have twice removed and reinstalled the module, everything visually 
>>appears to be ok.  Since I had the original KXV3 module, I did not 
>>open the bottom of the case, and I used the same TMP cable.
>> >
>> > Using the menu settings, I show that PREAMP2 is off, it cannot be 
>>changed. KXV3 is ?nor'; I can however cycle through ?not inSt? and 
>>?tESt?.  ATTEN is 10 db and also cannot be changed.
>> >
>> > What puzzles me is that my 222 MHz transverter appears to be 
>>functioning, which of course is installed to the KXV3B module.  And 
>>the IF Output port is functioning since I have it installed with an 
>>external SDR (Elad FDM-S1).  Additionally, while I do not have a 
>>different antenna for receive, the RX ANT switch appears to be 
>>working, as pressing it heavily attenuates and/or removes signals 
>>completely.
>> >
>> > Since it is the weekend and I won?t be able to reach Elecraft, I 
>>would appreciate any suggestions, or perhaps something that I may have 
>>missed that I did not describe above.
>> >
>> > 73 de Sebastian, W4AS
>> >
>> > ______________________________________________________________
>> > Elecraft mailing list
>> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>> > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
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From w4as at bellsouth.net  Sat Jun  6 17:32:02 2015
From: w4as at bellsouth.net (Sebastian)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 17:32:02 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KXV3B install and enable.....in K3
In-Reply-To: <000601d0a09f$4e00bda0$ea0238e0$@dkHanson.com>
References: <000601d0a09f$4e00bda0$ea0238e0$@dkHanson.com>
Message-ID: <925629B3-7630-4ED0-BC94-42F38BEFEF47@bellsouth.net>

You are now the third person to mention this.  I have emailed support so hopefully we can get an answer on Monday.

73 de Sebastian, W4AS

> On Jun 6, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Dick Hanson <dick at dkHanson.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> 
> Just back on list, so may have missed the answer to this.
> 
> 
> 
> Installed the above today in SN6141, with 5.14 firmware.
> 
> At the end of the installation booklet, it says to refer to the Owner's
> Manual for enable instructions.
> 
> When I turn it on now, it gives and "err xv3" message.
> 
> 
> 
> Must be missing something here, but I surely don't have a K3S yet, so no
> 'current' manual.
> 
> 
> 
> Anybody been down this path recently?
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> 
> Dick, K5AND


From nq5t at tx.rr.com  Sat Jun  6 17:33:41 2015
From: nq5t at tx.rr.com (GRANT YOUNGMAN)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 16:33:41 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KXV3B install and enable.....in K3
In-Reply-To: <000601d0a09f$4e00bda0$ea0238e0$@dkHanson.com>
References: <000601d0a09f$4e00bda0$ea0238e0$@dkHanson.com>
Message-ID: <9B34CAC6-A1C5-4A63-B619-B05C3C34B2EC@tx.rr.com>

Install the 5.26 Beta ..


> 
> Installed the above today in SN6141, with 5.14 firmware.
> 
> At the end of the installation booklet, it says to refer to the Owner's
> Manual for enable instructions.
> 
> When I turn it on now, it gives and "err xv3" message.


From rfriess at usa.net  Sat Jun  6 17:37:18 2015
From: rfriess at usa.net (Robert Friess)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 14:37:18 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] ERR XV3
In-Reply-To: <em32259ba8-2797-42be-8144-f959184c7bfd@hamradio-pc>
References: <em32259ba8-2797-42be-8144-f959184c7bfd@hamradio-pc>
Message-ID: <CAGG46ArydAiH-JOA3acV6cY4Gn2E=Ra_dGbeXPkKkwXV3s6Grg@mail.gmail.com>

Go to Config, KXV3, tap 9

Exit the menu.

73,
Bob, N6CM

On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Jim Sheldon <w0eb at cox.net> wrote:

> Yes there is, but it doesn't work because the K3 (not K3S) firmware is not
> recognizing the KXV3B module or at least not recognizing some parts of it.
> Some of the hardware apparently works for some people and not for others.
> I'm thinking this may depend on the age of the K3?  Mine is #5027 just for
> reference.
>
> The IF output to the P3 works just fine for me, the RX-IN works and I
> don't have the internal 2 meter transverter or any external transverters
> installed.  Also, the 1 milliwat transmitter gain calibration completed
> with no problem according to the utility program.  I can not, however
> enable Preamp 2 in the menu and I get ERR XV3 every time the K3 is turned
> on.
>
> I have removed and re-installed the KXV3B module 3 times, checked for
> proper seating of the connector pins and checked to ensure they were in the
> right socket positions all with the exact same results.  I even
> re-downloaded and re-installed the version 5.26 beta firmware to rule out a
> download glitch in the zip file.
>
> We'll most likely have to wait for the guys to get back from Pacific Con
> and get to work Monday for them to address this unless the firmware
> engineer for the XV3 module happens to check the reflector or the "support
> at elecraft" email and is able to address the situation.
>
> Jim - W0EB
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Guy Olinger K2AV" <k2av.guy at gmail.com>
> To: "Jim Sheldon" <w0eb at cox.net>
> Cc: "Sebastian" <w4as at bellsouth.net>; "Elecraft" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> >
> Sent: 6/6/2015 3:41:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ERR XV3
>
>  I'm not at home to check, but isn't there a CONFIG: setting required for
>> that?   73, Guy K2AV
>>
>> On Saturday, June 6, 2015, Jim Sheldon <w0eb at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I have exactly the same problem here.  My K3 doesn't recognize the
>>> KXV3B.  I triple checked the install.  Funny, but the RX-IN works and my
>>> original VLF mod works fine and it depends on the XV3's RX-IN jack so
>>> contrary to my thinking I have a defective module, I suspect a problem in
>>> FW beta 5.26 that doesn't show up on the factory lab's K3's.  Mine's #5027.
>>>
>>> Jim, W0EB
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> > On Jun 6, 2015, at 12:23 PM, Sebastian <w4as at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I received today the new KXV3B module, and installed it in my K3
>>> serial number 05864, using K3 Utility Revision 1.15.5.1.
>>> >
>>> > I also updated my K3 firmware, to revision 05.26.  I completed the
>>> Milliwatt TX Gain Calibration (since I also have an XV222).  For good
>>> measure, I also completed both the 5 and 50 watt calibration, using an old
>>> Heathkit Cantenna.  All of those completed with no errors.
>>> >
>>> > However, upon powering up the K3, I see the ?ERR XV3? message.
>>> >
>>> > I have twice removed and reinstalled the module, everything visually
>>> appears to be ok.  Since I had the original KXV3 module, I did not open the
>>> bottom of the case, and I used the same TMP cable.
>>> >
>>> > Using the menu settings, I show that PREAMP2 is off, it cannot be
>>> changed. KXV3 is ?nor'; I can however cycle through ?not inSt? and ?tESt?.
>>> ATTEN is 10 db and also cannot be changed.
>>> >
>>> > What puzzles me is that my 222 MHz transverter appears to be
>>> functioning, which of course is installed to the KXV3B module.  And the IF
>>> Output port is functioning since I have it installed with an external SDR
>>> (Elad FDM-S1).  Additionally, while I do not have a different antenna for
>>> receive, the RX ANT switch appears to be working, as pressing it heavily
>>> attenuates and/or removes signals completely.
>>> >
>>> > Since it is the weekend and I won?t be able to reach Elecraft, I would
>>> appreciate any suggestions, or perhaps something that I may have missed
>>> that I did not describe above.
>>> >
>>> > 73 de Sebastian, W4AS
>>> >
>>> > ______________________________________________________________
>>> > Elecraft mailing list
>>> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>>> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>>> > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
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From w0eb at cox.net  Sat Jun  6 17:41:55 2015
From: w0eb at cox.net (Jim Sheldon)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 21:41:55 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] ERR XV3
In-Reply-To: <d9bu1q00b13EWt5019ddY2>
Message-ID: <em40ca49c7-5ce3-4b4d-b6cb-8425799f14c6@hamradio-pc>

BINGO!  I must have missed that somewhere in the release notes or 
something.  Works like a champ now! THANK YOU!!!!!

Jim - W0EB

------ Original Message ------
From: "Robert Friess" <rfriess at usa.net>
To: "Jim Sheldon" <w0eb at cox.net>
Cc: "Elecraft" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: 6/6/2015 4:37:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ERR XV3

>Go to Config, KXV3, tap 9
>
>Exit the menu.
>
>73,
>Bob, N6CM
>
>On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Jim Sheldon <w0eb at cox.net> wrote:
>>Yes there is, but it doesn't work because the K3 (not K3S) firmware is 
>>not recognizing the KXV3B module or at least not recognizing some 
>>parts of it.  Some of the hardware apparently works for some people 
>>and not for others.  I'm thinking this may depend on the age of the 
>>K3?  Mine is #5027 just for reference.
>>
>>The IF output to the P3 works just fine for me, the RX-IN works and I 
>>don't have the internal 2 meter transverter or any external 
>>transverters installed.  Also, the 1 milliwat transmitter gain 
>>calibration completed with no problem according to the utility 
>>program.  I can not, however enable Preamp 2 in the menu and I get ERR 
>>XV3 every time the K3 is turned on.
>>
>>I have removed and re-installed the KXV3B module 3 times, checked for 
>>proper seating of the connector pins and checked to ensure they were 
>>in the right socket positions all with the exact same results.  I even 
>>re-downloaded and re-installed the version 5.26 beta firmware to rule 
>>out a download glitch in the zip file.
>>
>>We'll most likely have to wait for the guys to get back from Pacific 
>>Con and get to work Monday for them to address this unless the 
>>firmware engineer for the XV3 module happens to check the reflector or 
>>the "support at elecraft" email and is able to address the situation.
>>
>>Jim - W0EB
>>
>>------ Original Message ------
>>From: "Guy Olinger K2AV" <k2av.guy at gmail.com>
>>To: "Jim Sheldon" <w0eb at cox.net>
>>Cc: "Sebastian" <w4as at bellsouth.net>; "Elecraft" 
>><elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>>Sent: 6/6/2015 3:41:40 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ERR XV3
>>
>>>I'm not at home to check, but isn't there a CONFIG: setting required 
>>>for that?   73, Guy K2AV
>>>
>>>On Saturday, June 6, 2015, Jim Sheldon <w0eb at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>I have exactly the same problem here.  My K3 doesn't recognize the 
>>>>KXV3B.  I triple checked the install.  Funny, but the RX-IN works 
>>>>and my original VLF mod works fine and it depends on the XV3's RX-IN 
>>>>jack so contrary to my thinking I have a defective module, I suspect 
>>>>a problem in FW beta 5.26 that doesn't show up on the factory lab's 
>>>>K3's.  Mine's #5027.
>>>>
>>>>Jim, W0EB
>>>>
>>>>Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> > On Jun 6, 2015, at 12:23 PM, Sebastian <w4as at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I received today the new KXV3B module, and installed it in my K3 
>>>>serial number 05864, using K3 Utility Revision 1.15.5.1.
>>>> >
>>>> > I also updated my K3 firmware, to revision 05.26.  I completed the 
>>>>Milliwatt TX Gain Calibration (since I also have an XV222).  For 
>>>>good measure, I also completed both the 5 and 50 watt calibration, 
>>>>using an old Heathkit Cantenna.  All of those completed with no 
>>>>errors.
>>>> >
>>>> > However, upon powering up the K3, I see the ?ERR XV3? message.
>>>> >
>>>> > I have twice removed and reinstalled the module, everything 
>>>>visually appears to be ok.  Since I had the original KXV3 module, I 
>>>>did not open the bottom of the case, and I used the same TMP cable.
>>>> >
>>>> > Using the menu settings, I show that PREAMP2 is off, it cannot be 
>>>>changed. KXV3 is ?nor'; I can however cycle through ?not inSt? and 
>>>>?tESt?.  ATTEN is 10 db and also cannot be changed.
>>>> >
>>>> > What puzzles me is that my 222 MHz transverter appears to be 
>>>>functioning, which of course is installed to the KXV3B module.  And 
>>>>the IF Output port is functioning since I have it installed with an 
>>>>external SDR (Elad FDM-S1).  Additionally, while I do not have a 
>>>>different antenna for receive, the RX ANT switch appears to be 
>>>>working, as pressing it heavily attenuates and/or removes signals 
>>>>completely.
>>>> >
>>>> > Since it is the weekend and I won?t be able to reach Elecraft, I 
>>>>would appreciate any suggestions, or perhaps something that I may 
>>>>have missed that I did not describe above.
>>>> >
>>>> > 73 de Sebastian, W4AS
>>>> >
>>>> > ______________________________________________________________
>>>> > Elecraft mailing list
>>>> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>>>> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>>>> > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
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From lists at subich.com  Sat Jun  6 17:47:27 2015
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 17:47:27 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KXV3B install and enable.....in K3
In-Reply-To: <000601d0a09f$4e00bda0$ea0238e0$@dkHanson.com>
References: <000601d0a09f$4e00bda0$ea0238e0$@dkHanson.com>
Message-ID: <55736A6F.4030509@subich.com>


Dick,

Update your firmware to 5.26 (beta). It is necessary to recognize
the new options.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-06-06 5:25 PM, Dick Hanson wrote:
> Hello.
>
> Just back on list, so may have missed the answer to this.
>
>
>
> Installed the above today in SN6141, with 5.14 firmware.
>
> At the end of the installation booklet, it says to refer to the Owner's
> Manual for enable instructions.
>
> When I turn it on now, it gives and "err xv3" message.
>
>
>
> Must be missing something here, but I surely don't have a K3S yet, so no
> 'current' manual.
>
>
>
> Anybody been down this path recently?
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> Dick, K5AND
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From w0eb at cox.net  Sat Jun  6 17:57:43 2015
From: w0eb at cox.net (Jim Sheldon)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 21:57:43 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KXV3B Problems
Message-ID: <em0a88c89d-dfd3-4faa-a665-3da91a3973cb@hamradio-pc>

To those who are having KXV3B Problems and getting the ERR XV3 message, 
as Joe W4TV said, you must first have beta firmware version 5.26 
installed.  Then go to the KXV3 item in the menu, make sure it's set to 
NOR and tap 9 on the keypad.  This will switch it from KXV3 to KXV3B.  
To enable the 2 stage preamp then go to PREAMP 2 entry in the Menu and 
turn it on.  You must do this on each of the 3 bands, 12, 10 and 6 
meters.  After that it will work right assuming everything else went 
well with your installation.

Thanks to Bob Friess, N6CM and others for the additional information.

Jim - W0EB





From mattz at elecraft.com  Sat Jun  6 17:58:08 2015
From: mattz at elecraft.com (Matt Zilmer)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 14:58:08 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Solution: ERR XV3
In-Reply-To: <em32259ba8-2797-42be-8144-f959184c7bfd@hamradio-pc>
References: <em32259ba8-2797-42be-8144-f959184c7bfd@hamradio-pc>
Message-ID: <v1r6nal0p3ddmso9mss4vpqga389l32rd1@4ax.com>

I'm running 5.26 here.  I don't have the KXV3B in this K3.

In CONFIG:KXV3, tapping the '9' key toggles between KXV3 and KXV3B.  I
haven't consulted the current manual, so don't know if this hidden
function is suposed to work.  It will get you out of the woods though.

73!
matt
W6NIA

On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 21:26:36 +0000, you wrote:

>Yes there is, but it doesn't work because the K3 (not K3S) firmware is 
>not recognizing the KXV3B module or at least not recognizing some parts 
>of it.  Some of the hardware apparently works for some people and not 
>for others.  I'm thinking this may depend on the age of the K3?  Mine is 
>#5027 just for reference.
>
>The IF output to the P3 works just fine for me, the RX-IN works and I 
>don't have the internal 2 meter transverter or any external transverters 
>installed.  Also, the 1 milliwat transmitter gain calibration completed 
>with no problem according to the utility program.  I can not, however 
>enable Preamp 2 in the menu and I get ERR XV3 every time the K3 is 
>turned on.
>
>I have removed and re-installed the KXV3B module 3 times, checked for 
>proper seating of the connector pins and checked to ensure they were in 
>the right socket positions all with the exact same results.  I even 
>re-downloaded and re-installed the version 5.26 beta firmware to rule 
>out a download glitch in the zip file.
>
>We'll most likely have to wait for the guys to get back from Pacific Con 
>and get to work Monday for them to address this unless the firmware 
>engineer for the XV3 module happens to check the reflector or the 
>"support at elecraft" email and is able to address the situation.
>
>Jim - W0EB
>
>------ Original Message ------
>From: "Guy Olinger K2AV" <k2av.guy at gmail.com>
>To: "Jim Sheldon" <w0eb at cox.net>
>Cc: "Sebastian" <w4as at bellsouth.net>; "Elecraft" 
><elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>Sent: 6/6/2015 3:41:40 PM
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ERR XV3
>
>>I'm not at home to check, but isn't there a CONFIG: setting required 
>>for that?   73, Guy K2AV
>>
>>On Saturday, June 6, 2015, Jim Sheldon <w0eb at cox.net> wrote:
>>>I have exactly the same problem here.  My K3 doesn't recognize the 
>>>KXV3B.  I triple checked the install.  Funny, but the RX-IN works and 
>>>my original VLF mod works fine and it depends on the XV3's RX-IN jack 
>>>so contrary to my thinking I have a defective module, I suspect a 
>>>problem in FW beta 5.26 that doesn't show up on the factory lab's 
>>>K3's.  Mine's #5027.
>>>
>>>Jim, W0EB
>>>
>>>Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> > On Jun 6, 2015, at 12:23 PM, Sebastian <w4as at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I received today the new KXV3B module, and installed it in my K3 
>>>serial number 05864, using K3 Utility Revision 1.15.5.1.
>>> >
>>> > I also updated my K3 firmware, to revision 05.26.  I completed the 
>>>Milliwatt TX Gain Calibration (since I also have an XV222).  For good 
>>>measure, I also completed both the 5 and 50 watt calibration, using an 
>>>old Heathkit Cantenna.  All of those completed with no errors.
>>> >
>>> > However, upon powering up the K3, I see the ?ERR XV3? message.
>>> >
>>> > I have twice removed and reinstalled the module, everything visually 
>>>appears to be ok.  Since I had the original KXV3 module, I did not 
>>>open the bottom of the case, and I used the same TMP cable.
>>> >
>>> > Using the menu settings, I show that PREAMP2 is off, it cannot be 
>>>changed. KXV3 is ?nor'; I can however cycle through ?not inSt? and 
>>>?tESt?.  ATTEN is 10 db and also cannot be changed.
>>> >
>>> > What puzzles me is that my 222 MHz transverter appears to be 
>>>functioning, which of course is installed to the KXV3B module.  And 
>>>the IF Output port is functioning since I have it installed with an 
>>>external SDR (Elad FDM-S1).  Additionally, while I do not have a 
>>>different antenna for receive, the RX ANT switch appears to be 
>>>working, as pressing it heavily attenuates and/or removes signals 
>>>completely.
>>> >
>>> > Since it is the weekend and I won?t be able to reach Elecraft, I 
>>>would appreciate any suggestions, or perhaps something that I may have 
>>>missed that I did not describe above.
>>> >
>>> > 73 de Sebastian, W4AS
>>> >
>>> > ______________________________________________________________
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From mzilmer at roadrunner.com  Sat Jun  6 17:59:48 2015
From: mzilmer at roadrunner.com (Matt Zilmer)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 14:59:48 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Solution: ERR XV3
In-Reply-To: <v1r6nal0p3ddmso9mss4vpqga389l32rd1@4ax.com>
References: <em32259ba8-2797-42be-8144-f959184c7bfd@hamradio-pc>
	<v1r6nal0p3ddmso9mss4vpqga389l32rd1@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <78r6natlaf6jfunmf7nhvmpcfiv31trqhk@4ax.com>

Ah, yes....

After setting KXV3B mode, don't forget to exit the CONFIG menu and
power-cycle the K3.  It should be fine after that step.

73,
matt
W6NIA

On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 14:58:08 -0700, you wrote:

>I'm running 5.26 here.  I don't have the KXV3B in this K3.
>
>In CONFIG:KXV3, tapping the '9' key toggles between KXV3 and KXV3B.  I
>haven't consulted the current manual, so don't know if this hidden
>function is suposed to work.  It will get you out of the woods though.
>
>73!
>matt
>W6NIA
>
>On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 21:26:36 +0000, you wrote:
>
>>Yes there is, but it doesn't work because the K3 (not K3S) firmware is 
>>not recognizing the KXV3B module or at least not recognizing some parts 
>>of it.  Some of the hardware apparently works for some people and not 
>>for others.  I'm thinking this may depend on the age of the K3?  Mine is 
>>#5027 just for reference.
>>
>>The IF output to the P3 works just fine for me, the RX-IN works and I 
>>don't have the internal 2 meter transverter or any external transverters 
>>installed.  Also, the 1 milliwat transmitter gain calibration completed 
>>with no problem according to the utility program.  I can not, however 
>>enable Preamp 2 in the menu and I get ERR XV3 every time the K3 is 
>>turned on.
>>
>>I have removed and re-installed the KXV3B module 3 times, checked for 
>>proper seating of the connector pins and checked to ensure they were in 
>>the right socket positions all with the exact same results.  I even 
>>re-downloaded and re-installed the version 5.26 beta firmware to rule 
>>out a download glitch in the zip file.
>>
>>We'll most likely have to wait for the guys to get back from Pacific Con 
>>and get to work Monday for them to address this unless the firmware 
>>engineer for the XV3 module happens to check the reflector or the 
>>"support at elecraft" email and is able to address the situation.
>>
>>Jim - W0EB
>>
>>------ Original Message ------
>>From: "Guy Olinger K2AV" <k2av.guy at gmail.com>
>>To: "Jim Sheldon" <w0eb at cox.net>
>>Cc: "Sebastian" <w4as at bellsouth.net>; "Elecraft" 
>><elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>>Sent: 6/6/2015 3:41:40 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ERR XV3
>>
>>>I'm not at home to check, but isn't there a CONFIG: setting required 
>>>for that?   73, Guy K2AV
>>>
>>>On Saturday, June 6, 2015, Jim Sheldon <w0eb at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>I have exactly the same problem here.  My K3 doesn't recognize the 
>>>>KXV3B.  I triple checked the install.  Funny, but the RX-IN works and 
>>>>my original VLF mod works fine and it depends on the XV3's RX-IN jack 
>>>>so contrary to my thinking I have a defective module, I suspect a 
>>>>problem in FW beta 5.26 that doesn't show up on the factory lab's 
>>>>K3's.  Mine's #5027.
>>>>
>>>>Jim, W0EB
>>>>
>>>>Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> > On Jun 6, 2015, at 12:23 PM, Sebastian <w4as at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I received today the new KXV3B module, and installed it in my K3 
>>>>serial number 05864, using K3 Utility Revision 1.15.5.1.
>>>> >
>>>> > I also updated my K3 firmware, to revision 05.26.  I completed the 
>>>>Milliwatt TX Gain Calibration (since I also have an XV222).  For good 
>>>>measure, I also completed both the 5 and 50 watt calibration, using an 
>>>>old Heathkit Cantenna.  All of those completed with no errors.
>>>> >
>>>> > However, upon powering up the K3, I see the ?ERR XV3? message.
>>>> >
>>>> > I have twice removed and reinstalled the module, everything visually 
>>>>appears to be ok.  Since I had the original KXV3 module, I did not 
>>>>open the bottom of the case, and I used the same TMP cable.
>>>> >
>>>> > Using the menu settings, I show that PREAMP2 is off, it cannot be 
>>>>changed. KXV3 is ?nor'; I can however cycle through ?not inSt? and 
>>>>?tESt?.  ATTEN is 10 db and also cannot be changed.
>>>> >
>>>> > What puzzles me is that my 222 MHz transverter appears to be 
>>>>functioning, which of course is installed to the KXV3B module.  And 
>>>>the IF Output port is functioning since I have it installed with an 
>>>>external SDR (Elad FDM-S1).  Additionally, while I do not have a 
>>>>different antenna for receive, the RX ANT switch appears to be 
>>>>working, as pressing it heavily attenuates and/or removes signals 
>>>>completely.
>>>> >
>>>> > Since it is the weekend and I won?t be able to reach Elecraft, I 
>>>>would appreciate any suggestions, or perhaps something that I may have 
>>>>missed that I did not describe above.
>>>> >
>>>> > 73 de Sebastian, W4AS
>>>> >
>>>> > ______________________________________________________________
>>>> > Elecraft mailing list
>>>> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>>>> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>>>> > Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>>> >
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>>>> > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>>>> > Message delivered to w0eb at cox.net
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>>>
>>>
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>
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>831-763-4211  x129
>
Matt Zilmer, W6NIA
--
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From dick at dkHanson.com  Sat Jun  6 18:35:21 2015
From: dick at dkHanson.com (Dick Hanson)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 22:35:21 -0000
Subject: [Elecraft] update on my KXV3B
Message-ID: <000001d0a0a9$12b20c40$381624c0$@dkHanson.com>

First of all, thanks to all for responding!

 

The good news, fwiw, is that I was able to toggle to the B configuration by
following  Bob's suggestion of going to the KXV3 menu and then pressing 9.

It switched to the new configuration and no more err.

 

When I press PRE, it now briefly displays PRE 1, which is new to my radio.

Have not yet been successful bringing up pre 2.

 

And of course, after plugging my trusty serial to usb cable..it seems to
have quit, at a very inopportune time.

Been that kind of day, but, I'll find another cable and go for 5.26.

 

Thanks again.

 

73

Dick, K5AND



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From w4as at bellsouth.net  Sat Jun  6 18:35:38 2015
From: w4as at bellsouth.net (Sebastian)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 18:35:38 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] ERR XV3
In-Reply-To: <em40ca49c7-5ce3-4b4d-b6cb-8425799f14c6@hamradio-pc>
References: <em40ca49c7-5ce3-4b4d-b6cb-8425799f14c6@hamradio-pc>
Message-ID: <411442B8-D45A-4DF0-B13E-32BB6194E9D2@bellsouth.net>

Yes, thanks for the information.

I don?t see that in the KXV3B installation instructions, or at their web site which mentions the changes to the firmware revisions here: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm.



73 de Sebastian, W4AS

> On Jun 6, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Jim Sheldon <w0eb at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> BINGO!  I must have missed that somewhere in the release notes or something.  Works like a champ now! THANK YOU!!!!!
> 
> Jim - W0EB
> 
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Robert Friess" <rfriess at usa.net>
> To: "Jim Sheldon" <w0eb at cox.net>
> Cc: "Elecraft" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: 6/6/2015 4:37:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ERR XV3
> 
>> Go to Config, KXV3, tap 9
>> 
>> Exit the menu.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Bob, N6CM
> 


From w4as at bellsouth.net  Sat Jun  6 20:14:37 2015
From: w4as at bellsouth.net (Sebastian)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 20:14:37 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] update on my KXV3B
In-Reply-To: <000001d0a0a9$12b20c40$381624c0$@dkHanson.com>
References: <000001d0a0a9$12b20c40$381624c0$@dkHanson.com>
Message-ID: <944BC28A-423F-4CE6-AC4D-6AEFBD986B1E@bellsouth.net>

You need to set PREAMP2 to on by holding down MENU/CONFIG.  Then press the PRE button and it will rotate from OFF to PRE 1, then to PRE 2.

This needs to be done 3 times, if you desire, for 6, 10 and 12 meters.

73 de Sebastian, W4AS

> On Jun 6, 2015, at 6:35 PM, Dick Hanson <dick at dkHanson.com> wrote:
> 
> First of all, thanks to all for responding!
> 
> 
> 
> The good news, fwiw, is that I was able to toggle to the B configuration by
> following  Bob's suggestion of going to the KXV3 menu and then pressing 9.
> 
> It switched to the new configuration and no more err.
> 
> 
> 
> When I press PRE, it now briefly displays PRE 1, which is new to my radio.
> 
> Have not yet been successful bringing up pre 2.
> 
> 
> 
> And of course, after plugging my trusty serial to usb cable..it seems to
> have quit, at a very inopportune time.
> 
> Been that kind of day, but, I'll find another cable and go for 5.26.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> 
> 
> 73
> 
> Dick, K5AND


From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Sat Jun  6 20:17:30 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 20:17:30 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] update on my KXV3B
In-Reply-To: <944BC28A-423F-4CE6-AC4D-6AEFBD986B1E@bellsouth.net>
References: <000001d0a0a9$12b20c40$381624c0$@dkHanson.com>
	<944BC28A-423F-4CE6-AC4D-6AEFBD986B1E@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <55738D9A.9020805@embarqmail.com>

Yes, it must be done separately for each band.  That is what is meant by 
"per band setting".

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/6/2015 8:14 PM, Sebastian wrote:
> You need to set PREAMP2 to on by holding down MENU/CONFIG.  Then press the PRE button and it will rotate from OFF to PRE 1, then to PRE 2.
>
> This needs to be done 3 times, if you desire, for 6, 10 and 12 meters.
>
>


From ava622 at verizon.net  Sun Jun  7 01:33:49 2015
From: ava622 at verizon.net (Michael Aust)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 05:33:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Line-Out help needed
Message-ID: <1510405515.7810309.1433655229929.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Have an Elecraft K3 here.When I try to get Audio from the Line-Out for CW, to feed into a?computer, I get no Audio Out, tried Mono and Stereo Outputson my K3.
Do I need to turn something on in the K3 Menu ??
If I plug into front Headphone Jack on K3, it works.
I need a independent Audio Line-Out that is nottied to the front panel volume control.
Thanks in advance.
SN# >8000 Firmware 5.14
Mike?


From fcady at ece.montana.edu  Sun Jun  7 02:13:18 2015
From: fcady at ece.montana.edu (Cady, Fred)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 00:13:18 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Line-Out help needed
In-Reply-To: <1510405515.7810309.1433655229929.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1510405515.7810309.1433655229929.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <31B0BCE89606784FB09EF0C6CF94794F045ECDF56C@coeexch1.coe.montana.edu>

Hi Mike,
Check the CONFIG:LIN OUT value.  It should be about 10 or so.  When you are in that menu tap the 1 key to make sure it isn?t =Phones.
Good luck.
73,
Fred KE7X

Author of:
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KPA500 and KAT500 Quick Set Up Guide
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http://www.ke7x.com/home/kat500-and-kxpa100-tuners
and brand new
?The Elecraft KXPA100, PX3 and 2M/4M Transverters ? Assembling the KX3-Line Station? available at www.lulu.com.

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Michael Aust
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 11:34 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Line-Out help needed

Have an Elecraft K3 here.When I try to get Audio from the Line-Out for CW, to feed into a?computer, I get no Audio Out, tried Mono and Stereo Outputson my K3.
Do I need to turn something on in the K3 Menu ??
If I plug into front Headphone Jack on K3, it works.
I need a independent Audio Line-Out that is nottied to the front panel volume control.
Thanks in advance.
SN# >8000 Firmware 5.14
Mike?

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From ava622 at verizon.net  Sun Jun  7 02:26:11 2015
From: ava622 at verizon.net (Michael Aust)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 06:26:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Line-Out help needed
In-Reply-To: <880A8328-A88E-42CE-8054-8423E3FC2500@mac.com>
References: <880A8328-A88E-42CE-8054-8423E3FC2500@mac.com>
Message-ID: <1699005260.7770875.1433658371276.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Got it to work, my Line-Out needed to increase to 022 instead of 010 to make it workThanks?Mike 


     On Saturday, June 6, 2015 11:12 PM, "wb6rse1 at mac.com" <wb6rse1 at mac.com> wrote:
   

 Check the setting of LIN OUT in the config menu. Try NOR 010.

GL - Steve WB6RSE


On Jun 6, 2015, at 10:33 PM, Michael Aust <ava622 at verizon.net> wrote:

Have an Elecraft K3 here.When I try to get Audio from the Line-Out for CW, to feed into a computer, I get no Audio Out, tried Mono and Stereo Outputson my K3.
Do I need to turn something on in the K3 Menu ??
If I plug into front Headphone Jack on K3, it works.
I need a independent Audio Line-Out that is nottied to the front panel volume control.
Thanks in advance.
SN# >8000 Firmware 5.14
Mike 



  

From pf at tippete.net  Sun Jun  7 07:31:58 2015
From: pf at tippete.net (Pierfrancesco Caci)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2015 13:31:58 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] rigctld, fldigi and the K3
Message-ID: <87h9qjg3f5.fsf@snoopy.tippete.net>


Anyone else out there using rigctld as a means of interfacing fldigi to
the K3? I'd appreciate to see how you configure Retries, Retry
interval, Write delay and Post write delay.
I'm trying to solve some erratic behaviour that I was not seeing
with rpc.rigd. 

Thanks

Pf

-- 
Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx

From alexandr.kobranov at seznam.cz  Sun Jun  7 08:09:05 2015
From: alexandr.kobranov at seznam.cz (Alexandr Kobranov)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2015 14:09:05 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: FW 5.26 an TUN PWR problem K3/100  #727
Message-ID: <55743461.5090405@seznam.cz>

Hi,
just shortly testet FW 5.26 on my old K3/100 #727 and having problem 
with TUN PWR - when set to 10W there is no power (or 1 - 2W) after TUN 
activated (holding button) and then no SWR indication, COMP/ALC disp 
blinking. Tried 14W and also the same. (to avoid differencies in the 
10W/100W PA mode).
When I tried to move PWR level by knob then it was jumping to correct 
level and next try was ok.
I made a PWR calibration (5W and 50W) and it was the same.

Step back to 5.14 was solution and again it is working OK.

Any similar experience? I was not able to test for longer time and check 
all possible dependencies :-(

73!
Lexa, ok1dst


From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Sun Jun  7 08:23:14 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (K0IZ via Elecraft)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 05:23:14 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware problem after bad shutdown
Message-ID: <1433679794864-7603780.post@n2.nabble.com>

I was running my K3 remotely and accidentally turned off power before doing a
normal power down.  K3 would not function properly.  I had once before done
this and remotely reinstalled firmware using the K3 Utility program.  That
fixed the problem.

However this time I am having problem with loading firmware.  MCI 05.14, FPF
01.19, DSP1 02.83, and DVR 01.03 loaded ok.  However DSP2 does not.  Gets to
DTBL0014.HEX and then starts doing multiple retries at various addresses. 
Sometimes aborts.  Once completed file install, DSP2 showed 02.83 installed. 
But K3 did not function.  

I would try a reset but since not at the radio location, don't know if that
can be done remotely.

Ideas?



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From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Sun Jun  7 08:32:44 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (K0IZ via Elecraft)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 05:32:44 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Firmware problem with K3 after improper shutdown
Message-ID: <1433680364716-7603781.post@n2.nabble.com>

I was running my K3 remotely and accidentally turned off power before doing a
normal power down.  Now K3 will not function.  I had once before done this
and remotely reinstalled firmware using the K3 Utility program.  That fixed
the problem. 

However this time I am having problem with loading firmware.  MCI 05.14, FPF
01.19, DSP1 02.83, and DVR 01.03 loaded ok.  However DSP2 does not.  Gets to
DTBL0014.HEX and then starts doing multiple retries at various addresses. 
Sometimes aborts.  One time it completed the file install, DSP2 showed 02.83
installed.  But K3 still did not function.   

I would try a reset but since not at the radio location, don't know if that
can be done remotely. 

Ideas?

John, K?IZ



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From inventor61 at gmail.com  Sun Jun  7 09:01:55 2015
From: inventor61 at gmail.com (inventor61 .)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 09:01:55 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] KXV3B installation
Message-ID: <CAHmQzTnePoK7ncPgazV4NR3ir0rjkagwkew6f1_O6E-UO7uinw@mail.gmail.com>

Tap '9' when the KXV menu item is displayed.

The same thing happened to me.

Works great now.

K3 # 6108, fw v5.26


Steve KZ1X/4

From w0eb at cox.net  Sun Jun  7 09:11:54 2015
From: w0eb at cox.net (Jim Sheldon)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2015 13:11:54 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] KXV3B installation
In-Reply-To: <dR2d1q00645oxQM01R2gAp>
Message-ID: <emf913b5b4-e507-4f7a-a9e4-30db3adf25d9@hamradio-pc>

Other than when it was posted on the reflector yesterday, I'd like to 
know where this information originally came from.  It was not in the 
installation instructions and so far, I can't find it anywhere on the 
Elecraft website and of course it is not in the K3 manuals to include 
the latest available on the website.  The K3S manual is apparently not 
posted yet and the KXV3B installation instructions refer to the section 
on enabling modules in the "owners manual".

Jim - W0EB


>Tap '9' when the KXV menu item is displayed.
>
>The same thing happened to me.
>
>Works great now.
>
>K3 # 6108, fw v5.26
>
>
>Steve KZ1X/4
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From ed at w0yk.com  Sun Jun  7 09:39:33 2015
From: ed at w0yk.com (Ed Muns)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2015 06:39:33 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Line-Out help needed
Message-ID: <mailman.97.1433684458.22964.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>

What level is LIN OUT set to in the CONFIG menu?
73,
Ed W0YK

From w0eb at cox.net  Sun Jun  7 10:07:58 2015
From: w0eb at cox.net (Jim Sheldon)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2015 14:07:58 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Quick review of the new preamps in KXV3B
Message-ID: <em08a606f2-2e4b-44c1-b787-c4101eb877b2@hamradio-pc>

Right now 6 meters is marginally open between KS and the Southeast US. 
(NC down to FL).  First chance I've had to check out the "Preamp 2" 
function on the new KX3VB.  Boy what a difference it makes.  Had it set 
to Preamp 1 and just barely hearing signals so went to Preamp 2 and 
really good copy on everyone I could hear.  Makes a really decent 6 
meter rig out of an older K3 without the PR6.

Have not had a chance to test it on 10 and 12 meters other than 
observing a very distinct increase in background noise with it in Preamp 
2 mode as both bands were not open when I tested the KXV3B after finally 
getting it enabled yesterday.  This morning 6 is open so that one gets 
tested first.

Overall I'm very pleased with the operation of this board and no 
negative issues noted other than the initial lack of information in the 
documentation on how to enable it.

Jim - W0EB


From w4as at bellsouth.net  Sun Jun  7 10:27:30 2015
From: w4as at bellsouth.net (Sebastian)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 10:27:30 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Quick review of the new preamps in KXV3B
In-Reply-To: <em08a606f2-2e4b-44c1-b787-c4101eb877b2@hamradio-pc>
References: <em08a606f2-2e4b-44c1-b787-c4101eb877b2@hamradio-pc>
Message-ID: <8D923BF6-C850-423C-A028-308A4D2645AD@bellsouth.net>

A very similar experience here as well.

One thing I dislike, is the flashing PRE when preamp 2 is on.  It is annoying to see the constant flashing, to me that generally means there is something wrong.  But it looks like that part of the K3?s display doesn?t have the ability to display something else.  

It should be treated the same as the noise blanker for example, which has multiple settings, yet only NB displays when it is on.

73 de Sebastian, W4AS

> On Jun 7, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Jim Sheldon <w0eb at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> Right now 6 meters is marginally open between KS and the Southeast US. (NC down to FL).  First chance I've had to check out the "Preamp 2" function on the new KX3VB.  Boy what a difference it makes.  Had it set to Preamp 1 and just barely hearing signals so went to Preamp 2 and really good copy on everyone I could hear.  Makes a really decent 6 meter rig out of an older K3 without the PR6.
> 
> Have not had a chance to test it on 10 and 12 meters other than observing a very distinct increase in background noise with it in Preamp 2 mode as both bands were not open when I tested the KXV3B after finally getting it enabled yesterday.  This morning 6 is open so that one gets tested first.
> 
> Overall I'm very pleased with the operation of this board and no negative issues noted other than the initial lack of information in the documentation on how to enable it.
> 
> Jim - W0EB


From ava622 at verizon.net  Sun Jun  7 10:42:57 2015
From: ava622 at verizon.net (Michael Aust)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 07:42:57 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Line-Out help needed
In-Reply-To: <0NPK00KGKU04Y740@vms172077.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <1433688177.90962.YahooMailBasic@web140103.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

My Line-Out level on my K3 was too low, was Set to level of 010
had to increase higher to make things work to level > 022
Thanks.
73 Mike

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On Sun, 6/7/15, Ed Muns <ed at w0yk.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Line-Out help needed
 To: "Michael Aust" <ava622 at verizon.net>
 Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
 Date: Sunday, June 7, 2015, 6:39 AM
 
 What level is LIN OUT set
 to in the CONFIG menu?73,Ed
 W0YKOn Jun 6,
 2015 10:33 PM, Michael Aust <ava622 at verizon.net>
 wrote:
 Have an Elecraft K3 here.When I try to get Audio
 from the Line-Out for CW, to feed into a?computer, I
 get no Audio Out, tried Mono and Stereo Outputson my K3.
 
 Do I need to turn something on in the K3 Menu ??
 
 If I plug into front Headphone Jack on K3, it works.
 
 I need a independent Audio Line-Out that is nottied to the
 front panel volume control.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 SN# >8000 Firmware 5.14
 
 Mike?
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From mike.harris at horizon.co.fk  Sun Jun  7 10:57:09 2015
From: mike.harris at horizon.co.fk (Mike Harris)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2015 11:57:09 -0300
Subject: [Elecraft] Quick review of the new preamps in KXV3B
In-Reply-To: <8D923BF6-C850-423C-A028-308A4D2645AD@bellsouth.net>
References: <em08a606f2-2e4b-44c1-b787-c4101eb877b2@hamradio-pc>
	<8D923BF6-C850-423C-A028-308A4D2645AD@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <55745BC5.3000706@horizon.co.fk>

It appears that the gain of the Pre-2 has not been factored into the 
S-meter ABS setting unlike that of the Pre-1.  I can understand this 
being the case with the outboard amps, PR-6 and family.  However, given 
that this function ins now internal maybe it could be taken into account.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

On 07/06/2015 11:27, Sebastian wrote:
> A very similar experience here as well.
>
> One thing I dislike, is the flashing PRE when preamp 2 is on.  It is annoying to see the constant flashing, to me that generally means there is something wrong.  But it looks like that part of the K3?s display doesn?t have the ability to display something else.
>
> It should be treated the same as the noise blanker for example, which has multiple settings, yet only NB displays when it is on.
>
> 73 de Sebastian, W4AS
>
>> On Jun 7, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Jim Sheldon <w0eb at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> Right now 6 meters is marginally open between KS and the Southeast US. (NC down to FL).  First chance I've had to check out the "Preamp 2" function on the new KX3VB.  Boy what a difference it makes.  Had it set to Preamp 1 and just barely hearing signals so went to Preamp 2 and really good copy on everyone I could hear.  Makes a really decent 6 meter rig out of an older K3 without the PR6.
>>
>> Have not had a chance to test it on 10 and 12 meters other than observing a very distinct increase in background noise with it in Preamp 2 mode as both bands were not open when I tested the KXV3B after finally getting it enabled yesterday.  This morning 6 is open so that one gets tested first.
>>
>> Overall I'm very pleased with the operation of this board and no negative issues noted other than the initial lack of information in the documentation on how to enable it.
>>
>> Jim - W0EB

From rask1553 at bellsouth.net  Sun Jun  7 11:11:54 2015
From: rask1553 at bellsouth.net (Michael Raskin)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 11:11:54 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] PR6 FOR SALE
Message-ID: <7E23BF4AD81247218E66C9AF57C7C120@MRPC>

PR6 preamp, in like new condition, with original box and manual.  $95, which 
includes free USPS Priority shipping CONUS.  I will take PayPal or personal 
check.

Mike, W4UM 


From kevinr at coho.net  Sun Jun  7 11:46:44 2015
From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr at coho.net)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2015 08:46:44 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Message-ID: <55746764.2040304@coho.net>

Good Morning,
    Solar flux has increased providing more ions to support 
communications.  Hopefully the summer storms will cooperate and provide 
semi-quiet conditions.  The Pacific Northwest toggle switch has been 
flipped to sunny and dry.  After weeks with 50 degrees temperatures 80 
seems hot.

Please join us this afternoon and evening.

14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday)
  7045 kHz at 0100z Monday (6 PM PDT Sunday)

     73,
         Kevin. KD5ONS
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From kissov at me.com  Sun Jun  7 12:32:21 2015
From: kissov at me.com (Richard Thorpe)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2015 09:32:21 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3
Message-ID: <48EC5934-51C3-4C0B-B8C5-FBAE5CA30E39@me.com>

I just purchased a PX3 and want to mount it above my KX3 I was thinking of using one of those holders for mounting your phone/GPS in your car ( the gooseneck variety) has any one tried this? is the thickness of the PX3 a problem? Thank you.

R Thorpe K6CG

From dick at dkHanson.com  Sun Jun  7 13:35:43 2015
From: dick at dkHanson.com (Dick Hanson)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 17:35:43 -0000
Subject: [Elecraft] progress report on new KXV3B install
Message-ID: <000e01d0a148$61539810$23fac830$@dkHanson.com>

Howdy..

 

After rushing to be there when Best Buy opened this am, I bought a new
serial to USB cable.

New cable worked fine, even tho an el cheapo by Elecraft standards. ($19.95
by Insignia)

 

With 5.26 installed and xmit gain recalibrated, all is well!

This radio is going to PJ5A in a couple weeks, so I had noticed that my
pants were bunching up a bit.

 

All is very well now tho.

 

Thanks again for all the helpful suggestions.

 

Can't y'all just imagine trying to get this kind of support from one of the
big radio companies?

 

Best,

 

Dick, K5AND

www.w6jkvk5andbbq.com 

 

 



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From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Sun Jun  7 15:11:28 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Julius Fazekas n2wn via Elecraft)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 12:11:28 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] ERR TXG in 5W calibration mode
Message-ID: <1433704288246-7603793.post@n2.nabble.com>

Just now updating an older K3 with 5.14 using an old winXP machine. The 50W
cal went as expected, the 5w cal gives me an error message: ERR TXG.
starting on 160. During calibration it only reaches 3.3W at 1.1:1 SWR. I can
go an adjust to 5w and it reads 1.0:1 when using a manual key. Tried the
calibration again at this point and it made it through 160 and hung on 3.750
MHz, same readings and issue.

I can set the rig and run CW fine @ 5w. calibration doesn't work. Haven't
tried going back to the old firmware, but see not reason the new FW
shouldn't work. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Julius
n2wn



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From k6dgw at foothill.net  Sun Jun  7 15:32:27 2015
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2015 12:32:27 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3-P3 SSB spectrum
Message-ID: <55749C4B.2060606@foothill.net>

Don't get to phone very often but most of the museum ships seem to be on 
SSB today.  An awful lot of signals seem to have most of their energy in 
close to the carrier and sound "constricted" [a technical term].  There 
are occasional ones that look pretty even and they sound great.  I sure 
wish there was a way to look at my SSB spectrum on the P3.  Anybody know 
if the new TX monitor capability will do that?

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org

From kengkopp at gmail.com  Sun Jun  7 15:56:16 2015
From: kengkopp at gmail.com (Ken G Kopp)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 13:56:16 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K3-P3 SSB spectrum
In-Reply-To: <55749C4B.2060606@foothill.net>
References: <55749C4B.2060606@foothill.net>
Message-ID: <CAD4CdTOQ_2tr6g-SUmy9BG7E_M2knU1+nut1TZ6LR_ABEPAzXw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Fred,

I have one on order based on my understanding that it does.  If I'm
incorrect I'm sure I'll be corrected.

73 !

Ken - K0PP
On Jun 7, 2015 1:33 PM, "Fred Jensen" <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:

> Don't get to phone very often but most of the museum ships seem to be on
> SSB today.  An awful lot of signals seem to have most of their energy in
> close to the carrier and sound "constricted" [a technical term].  There are
> occasional ones that look pretty even and they sound great.  I sure wish
> there was a way to look at my SSB spectrum on the P3.  Anybody know if the
> new TX monitor capability will do that?
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
> - www.cqp.org
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From lists at subich.com  Sun Jun  7 16:58:26 2015
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2015 16:58:26 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3-P3 SSB spectrum
In-Reply-To: <55749C4B.2060606@foothill.net>
References: <55749C4B.2060606@foothill.net>
Message-ID: <5574B072.6020507@subich.com>


The TX Monitor is a time domain display - not a frequency domain
display.  If you want to see the frequency domain display of your
own signal, temporarily disconnect the RS-232 cable between the
two (or connect another SDR to a directional coupler in the antenna
line).

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-06-07 3:32 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
> Don't get to phone very often but most of the museum ships seem to be on
> SSB today.  An awful lot of signals seem to have most of their energy in
> close to the carrier and sound "constricted" [a technical term].  There
> are occasional ones that look pretty even and they sound great.  I sure
> wish there was a way to look at my SSB spectrum on the P3.  Anybody know
> if the new TX monitor capability will do that?
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
> - www.cqp.org
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From pf at tippete.net  Sun Jun  7 17:04:25 2015
From: pf at tippete.net (Pierfrancesco Caci)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2015 23:04:25 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] ERR TXG in 5W calibration mode
In-Reply-To: <1433704288246-7603793.post@n2.nabble.com> (Julius Fazekas n2wn
	via Elecraft's message of "Sun, 7 Jun 2015 12:11:28 -0700 (MST)")
References: <1433704288246-7603793.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <87d217fcx2.fsf@snoopy.tippete.net>

>>>>> "Julius" == Julius Fazekas n2wn via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> writes:
    Julius> I can set the rig and run CW fine @ 5w. calibration doesn't
    Julius> work. Haven't 
    Julius> tried going back to the old firmware, but see not reason the new FW
    Julius> shouldn't work. Any suggestions?

make sure to use a recent K3 Utility. 

-- 
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From nq5t at tx.rr.com  Sun Jun  7 17:04:58 2015
From: nq5t at tx.rr.com (GRANT YOUNGMAN)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 16:04:58 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3-P3 SSB spectrum
In-Reply-To: <CAD4CdTOQ_2tr6g-SUmy9BG7E_M2knU1+nut1TZ6LR_ABEPAzXw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <55749C4B.2060606@foothill.net>
	<CAD4CdTOQ_2tr6g-SUmy9BG7E_M2knU1+nut1TZ6LR_ABEPAzXw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4D20F018-468F-4D1A-9C89-69C088A26AA4@tx.rr.com>

The new P3TXMON does not include transmit spectrum monitoring.  

Although I?ve never tried it, if you unplug the P3 from the K3, you can/might observe your transmit spectrum.  But this isn?t a feature.  Alan sent an email about this some time ago .. don?t have it, but you can probably find it in the archive.  The K3 does not normally provide a transmit spectrum output.  There?s only transmit IF ?leakage?, which varies by K3, the time of day, phase of the moon, lottery numbers  ? so it wouldn?t be consistent enough to have a documented ?feature?.

Grant NQ5T


> On Jun 7, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Ken G Kopp <kengkopp at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Fred,
> 
> I have one on order based on my understanding that it does.  If I'm
> incorrect I'm sure I'll be corrected.
> 
> 73 !
> 
> Ken - K0PP
> On Jun 7, 2015 1:33 PM, "Fred Jensen" <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:
> 
>> Don't get to phone very often but most of the museum ships seem to be on
>> SSB today.  An awful lot of signals seem to have most of their energy in
>> close to the carrier and sound "constricted" [a technical term].  There are
>> occasional ones that look pretty even and they sound great.  I sure wish
>> there was a way to look at my SSB spectrum on the P3.  Anybody know if the
>> new TX monitor capability will do that?
>> 


From kd6qzx at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jun  7 17:38:51 2015
From: kd6qzx at sbcglobal.net (KD6QZX)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 14:38:51 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3
In-Reply-To: <48EC5934-51C3-4C0B-B8C5-FBAE5CA30E39@me.com>
References: <48EC5934-51C3-4C0B-B8C5-FBAE5CA30E39@me.com>
Message-ID: <1033601185.6704928.1433713110741.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Richard, look at my mounting solution at GEMS Home Page? I have both KX3 mounts and PX3 mounts coming out in the next few weeks. 
Scott AK6Q
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     On Sunday, June 7, 2015 9:34 AM, Richard Thorpe-2 [via Elecraft] <ml-node+s365791n7603791h55 at n2.nabble.com> wrote:
   

  I just purchased a PX3 and want to mount it above my KX3 I was thinking of using one of those holders for mounting your phone/GPS in your car ( the gooseneck variety) has any one tried this? is the thickness of the PX3 a problem? Thank you.

R Thorpe K6CG
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From dpbunte at gmail.com  Sun Jun  7 17:49:31 2015
From: dpbunte at gmail.com (David Bunte)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 17:49:31 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3
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Richard -

I have nothing to do with GEM Products, and don't even own a KX3... but at
Dayton, I saw the mounts that Scott has designed for the KX3 & PX3.  There
is NO doubt in my mind that if I had those sweet little Elecraft products,
and wanted to mount them, the GEM Products devices are what I would
choose.  I was EXTREMELY impressed by the simplicity of design, ease of
use, and how securely they held both the KX3 & the PX3.


Dave - K9FN

On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 5:38 PM, KD6QZX <kd6qzx at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Richard, look at my mounting solution at GEMS Home Page  I have both KX3
> mounts and PX3 mounts coming out in the next few weeks.
> Scott AK6Q
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>      On Sunday, June 7, 2015 9:34 AM, Richard Thorpe-2 [via Elecraft] <
> ml-node+s365791n7603791h55 at n2.nabble.com> wrote:
>
>
>   I just purchased a PX3 and want to mount it above my KX3 I was thinking
> of using one of those holders for mounting your phone/GPS in your car ( the
> gooseneck variety) has any one tried this? is the thickness of the PX3 a
> problem? Thank you.
>
> R Thorpe K6CG
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From k6dgw at foothill.net  Sun Jun  7 18:49:15 2015
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2015 15:49:15 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3-P3 SSB spectrum
In-Reply-To: <4D20F018-468F-4D1A-9C89-69C088A26AA4@tx.rr.com>
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Thanks to all who replied.  I now know that the new "feature" is time 
domain only which doesn't help me.  I tried unplugging the RS-232 cable, 
and apparently the phase of the moon is not quite right because I really 
don't see much.  I tried running up the gain [SCALE] to no avail, 
brought the noise up too.

I think I'll have a QSO with a local with a P3 and he can do a screen 
capture and send it to me.

Thanks again,

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org

On 6/7/2015 2:04 PM, GRANT YOUNGMAN wrote:
> The new P3TXMON does not include transmit spectrum monitoring.
>
> Although I?ve never tried it, if you unplug the P3 from the K3, you
> can/might observe your transmit spectrum.  But this isn?t a feature.
> Alan sent an email about this some time ago .. don?t have it, but you
> can probably find it in the archive.  The K3 does not normally
> provide a transmit spectrum output.  There?s only transmit IF
> ?leakage?, which varies by K3, the time of day, phase of the moon,
> lottery numbers  ? so it wouldn?t be consistent enough to have a
> documented ?feature?.

From dave at onitap.com  Sun Jun  7 18:49:30 2015
From: dave at onitap.com (David Patino)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 22:49:30 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 - Remove artifact from I/Q demodulation?
Message-ID: <59a1dc0680c2466887ca3f930035b3fa@MBX10B-IAD3.mex06.mlsrvr.com>

Howdy All,



So on my PX3 I'm seeing the issue listed in the manual as "Dip in Spectral Response Close to VFO Frequency". Described as:

I/Q demodulation at baseband (used by the PX3 and many SDR applications) may introduce small, very narrow-band amplitude variations in the response close to the carrier. This effect varies with operating mode and usually has no effect on operation. In CW mode the artifact can be moved by switching to CW reverse mode (ALT switch on KX3). Setting RX Shift to 8.0 rather than NOR in the KX3 menu may also vary to location of the artifact.



Here's a screen cap of my PX3 with span set to just 2kHz in CW mode. The dip is 600hz above the VFO freq (CW pitch is set to 600Hz).

This exaggerates the issue but it's visible at any spans at and below 50khz.

http://i.imgur.com/p1i29Ul.jpg



Other than just moving it as the manual suggests, anyone know of any way to decrease the dip, or remove it entirely?



73, David

N9PBJ

From w4grj at satterfield.org  Sun Jun  7 20:56:17 2015
From: w4grj at satterfield.org (w4grj)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 20:56:17 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft]  K3 & P3 For Sale
In-Reply-To: <1433688177.90962.YahooMailBasic@web140103.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <0NPK00KGKU04Y740@vms172077.mailsrvcs.net>
	<1433688177.90962.YahooMailBasic@web140103.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000301d0a185$ee5c40d0$cb14c270$@org>

For Sale K3 serial 3746 (Not K3S) Factory Assembled

K3/100
KAT3
KRX3
KXF3A
2- KF3A 2.8k 8pole filter
KFL3A 1.8k 8pole filter
KFL3A 400 8pole filter
KFL3A 6k 8pole filter
KFL3B 13k FM filter

$3650 includes shipping and insurance

P3 serial 1020 Factory assembled
$635

All perfect condition, non smoking environment. Prefer to sell K3 & P3 as
package, will include associated interconnect cables.

Please reply offline.
Tnx,
Jack
W4GRJ


From w2lj at verizon.net  Sun Jun  7 22:13:38 2015
From: w2lj at verizon.net (Larry Makoski)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2015 22:13:38 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] NAQCC Sprint Wednesday Night
Message-ID: <ce1b404204877d4fa565050444d8877b@192.168.1.4>

The June sprint is this coming Tuesday evening local time (June 9th,
EDT - 8:30-10:30PM, CDT - 7:30-9:30PM, MDT - 6:30-8:30PM, PDT - 5:30-7:30PM),
which translates as Wednesday, June 10th, 0030 to 0230Z in all cases.

For all the "official" information, please go to:

http://naqcc.info/sprint201506.html

There you will find all the details as to time, frequencies and other important
information.

Certificates: SWA (simple wire antennas) certificates by call area, VE and DX
for 1st, 2nd and 3rd place finishers (New!). A Certificate for top score in the
GAIN antenna category.

Prizes: Too many to list!! - check out the prizes page on our website.

This is a monthly event that caters to the CW veteran, the CW newcomer, straight
key and bug fans. All are welcome to participate (this includes QRO); but you
must use QRP power levels to compete for awards.

If you've been hesitant to join in our sprints because you hear other sprints
running at breakneck speeds, have no fear. Our sprints are geared to the
newcomer to CW and/or contesting. Virtually everyone including the many veteran
contesters who regularly enter our sprints will slow down to YOUR speed to help
you make your contacts.

If you are not already a member of NAQCC... membership is FREE! Now is your
chance to join the largest QRP CW Club in the world!! We currently have 7100+
members in: All 50 States - 9 VE Provinces - 100 Countries. Sign up on the
NAQCC website today (http://naqcc.info/) and receive a handsome certificate,
with your membership number on it, which is good for life.

Come join us and have a real good time!

72/73 de Larry W2LJ
NAQCC #35

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From w2lj at verizon.net  Sun Jun  7 22:16:41 2015
From: w2lj at verizon.net (Larry Makoski)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2015 22:16:41 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] NAQCC Sprint TUESDAY Night
Message-ID: <9221f901cab8f54bb67b8e5f97f48f06@192.168.1.4>

The June sprint is this coming Tuesday (NOT Wednesday!) evening local time (June 9th,
EDT - 8:30-10:30PM, CDT - 7:30-9:30PM, MDT - 6:30-8:30PM, PDT - 5:30-7:30PM),
which translates as Wednesday, June 10th, 0030 to 0230Z in all cases.

For all the "official" information, please go to:

http://naqcc.info/sprint201506.html

There you will find all the details as to time, frequencies and other important
information.

Certificates: SWA (simple wire antennas) certificates by call area, VE and DX
for 1st, 2nd and 3rd place finishers (New!). A Certificate for top score in the
GAIN antenna category.

Prizes: Too many to list!! - check out the prizes page on our website.

This is a monthly event that caters to the CW veteran, the CW newcomer, straight
key and bug fans. All are welcome to participate (this includes QRO); but you
must use QRP power levels to compete for awards.

If you've been hesitant to join in our sprints because you hear other sprints
running at breakneck speeds, have no fear. Our sprints are geared to the
newcomer to CW and/or contesting. Virtually everyone including the many veteran
contesters who regularly enter our sprints will slow down to YOUR speed to help
you make your contacts.

If you are not already a member of NAQCC... membership is FREE! Now is your
chance to join the largest QRP CW Club in the world!! We currently have 7100+
members in: All 50 States - 9 VE Provinces - 100 Countries. Sign up on the
NAQCC website today (http://naqcc.info/) and receive a handsome certificate,
with your membership number on it, which is good for life.

Come join us and have a real good time!

72/73 de Larry W2LJ
NAQCC #35

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From k7jltextra at gmail.com  Sun Jun  7 23:05:31 2015
From: k7jltextra at gmail.com (John K7JLT)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2015 20:05:31 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 - Remove artifact from I/Q demodulation?
Message-ID: <dycocbsmp63umks15snhgb1l.1433732731630@email.android.com>

I have the same problem and find it very distracting.  I also have found that there are additional false artifacts above and below the vfo frequency that move in sync with any change in vfo frequency.

 

John K7JLT

David Patino <dave at onitap.com> wrote:

>Howdy All,
>
>
>
>So on my PX3 I'm seeing the issue listed in the manual as "Dip in Spectral Response Close to VFO Frequency". Described as:
>
>I/Q demodulation at baseband (used by the PX3 and many SDR applications) may introduce small, very narrow-band amplitude variations in the response close to the carrier. This effect varies with operating mode and usually has no effect on operation. In CW mode the artifact can be moved by switching to CW reverse mode (ALT switch on KX3). Setting RX Shift to 8.0 rather than NOR in the KX3 menu may also vary to location of the artifact.
>
>
>
>Here's a screen cap of my PX3 with span set to just 2kHz in CW mode. The dip is 600hz above the VFO freq (CW pitch is set to 600Hz).
>
>This exaggerates the issue but it's visible at any spans at and below 50khz.
>
>http://i.imgur.com/p1i29Ul.jpg
>
>
>
>Other than just moving it as the manual suggests, anyone know of any way to decrease the dip, or remove it entirely?
>
>
>
>73, David
>
>N9PBJ
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Mon Jun  8 00:01:07 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 21:01:07 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Quick review of the new preamps in KXV3B
In-Reply-To: <55745BC5.3000706@horizon.co.fk>
References: <em08a606f2-2e4b-44c1-b787-c4101eb877b2@hamradio-pc>
	<8D923BF6-C850-423C-A028-308A4D2645AD@bellsouth.net>
	<55745BC5.3000706@horizon.co.fk>
Message-ID: <115141BA-F652-42DE-808B-3168BC428356@elecraft.com>

Mike,

We'll take preamp 2's gain into account for SMTR ABS in an upcoming firmware release. We also need to account for the 5/10/15 dB attenuation steps available in the K3S.

By the way, the MDS on 12/10/6 meters with preamp 2 engaged is a blistering 145 dBm, typical! Have fun--

Wayne
N6KR


On Jun 7, 2015, at 7:57 AM, Mike Harris <mike.harris at horizon.co.fk> wrote:

> It appears that the gain of the Pre-2 has not been factored into the S-meter ABS setting unlike that of the Pre-1.  I can understand this being the case with the outboard amps, PR-6 and family.  However, given that this function ins now internal maybe it could be taken into account.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike VP8NO
> 
> On 07/06/2015 11:27, Sebastian wrote:
>> A very similar experience here as well.
>> 
>> One thing I dislike, is the flashing PRE when preamp 2 is on.  It is annoying to see the constant flashing, to me that generally means there is something wrong.  But it looks like that part of the K3?s display doesn?t have the ability to display something else.
>> 
>> It should be treated the same as the noise blanker for example, which has multiple settings, yet only NB displays when it is on.
>> 
>> 73 de Sebastian, W4AS
>> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Jim Sheldon <w0eb at cox.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Right now 6 meters is marginally open between KS and the Southeast US. (NC down to FL).  First chance I've had to check out the "Preamp 2" function on the new KX3VB.  Boy what a difference it makes.  Had it set to Preamp 1 and just barely hearing signals so went to Preamp 2 and really good copy on everyone I could hear.  Makes a really decent 6 meter rig out of an older K3 without the PR6.
>>> 
>>> Have not had a chance to test it on 10 and 12 meters other than observing a very distinct increase in background noise with it in Preamp 2 mode as both bands were not open when I tested the KXV3B after finally getting it enabled yesterday.  This morning 6 is open so that one gets tested first.
>>> 
>>> Overall I'm very pleased with the operation of this board and no negative issues noted other than the initial lack of information in the documentation on how to enable it.
>>> 
>>> Jim - W0EB
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Mon Jun  8 00:03:57 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 21:03:57 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] KXV3B installation
In-Reply-To: <emf913b5b4-e507-4f7a-a9e4-30db3adf25d9@hamradio-pc>
References: <emf913b5b4-e507-4f7a-a9e4-30db3adf25d9@hamradio-pc>
Message-ID: <268251EB-ECD9-471A-AF48-683E02B485BE@elecraft.com>

Hi Jim,

We intended to post the revised KXV3B installation instructions before shipping it, but they beat us to it. Sorry about that.

The KXV3B is very well covered in all respects in the K3S owner's manual, including enable and preamp 2 setup. The K3S manual will be posted soon.

73,
Wayne
N6KR




On Jun 7, 2015, at 6:11 AM, Jim Sheldon <w0eb at cox.net> wrote:

> Other than when it was posted on the reflector yesterday, I'd like to know where this information originally came from.  It was not in the installation instructions and so far, I can't find it anywhere on the Elecraft website and of course it is not in the K3 manuals to include the latest available on the website.  The K3S manual is apparently not posted yet and the KXV3B installation instructions refer to the section on enabling modules in the "owners manual".
> 
> Jim - W0EB
> 
> 
>> Tap '9' when the KXV menu item is displayed.
>> 
>> The same thing happened to me.
>> 
>> Works great now.
>> 
>> K3 # 6108, fw v5.26
>> 
>> 
>> Steve KZ1X/4
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From b.bill.p at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 02:26:22 2015
From: b.bill.p at gmail.com (BillP)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 23:26:22 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 2 meters no power out
Message-ID: <0CFB9A8C-DAB9-42BD-AF47-9B6ACC10AF25@gmail.com>

KX-3 Serial number 2517
Internal or external battery power, same condition.
HF operation is Fine 

I've carefully followed the installation instructions, loaded the latest software as of Friday AM (and again) and cannot measure 2 meter RF at the SMA connector using verified coax and VHF SWR bridge. The power control displays 3 watts but the 'tune' mode displays .1 watt (?).    CW, FM, SSB do not register however I can hear my CW/FM/SSB signal in a nearby receiver.  Receive works fine.  I'm anxious to get this going for the VHF contest.  

HF works fine.  Thanks, Bill K6ACJ

Sent from my iPad

From turnbull at net1.ie  Mon Jun  8 04:24:52 2015
From: turnbull at net1.ie (Doug Turnbull)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 08:24:52 -0000
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] KXV3B installation
In-Reply-To: <268251EB-ECD9-471A-AF48-683E02B485BE@elecraft.com>
References: <emf913b5b4-e507-4f7a-a9e4-30db3adf25d9@hamradio-pc>
	<268251EB-ECD9-471A-AF48-683E02B485BE@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <6F66B471D49F455F86AFD96DD1966362@DOUG1>

Hi Wayne and company,
     Could you please provide a thumb nail sketch as to how much surgery is
required to install the new KXVB3 when the likes of a second receiver and or
two meter option are included in the K3?   Is there a need to remove the
power amplifier for example?     How long typically does it take to install
the KXVB3 in different scenarios?

      Thanks for the continuing development and for keeping existing
products close to the best performance obtainable.   As much as your product
it is the Elecraft people and their approach which is so unique.

              73 Doug EI2CN

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne
Burdick
Sent: 08 June 2015 04:04
To: Jim Sheldon
Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] KXV3B installation

Hi Jim,

We intended to post the revised KXV3B installation instructions before
shipping it, but they beat us to it. Sorry about that.

The KXV3B is very well covered in all respects in the K3S owner's manual,
including enable and preamp 2 setup. The K3S manual will be posted soon.

73,
Wayne
N6KR




On Jun 7, 2015, at 6:11 AM, Jim Sheldon <w0eb at cox.net> wrote:

> Other than when it was posted on the reflector yesterday, I'd like to know
where this information originally came from.  It was not in the installation
instructions and so far, I can't find it anywhere on the Elecraft website
and of course it is not in the K3 manuals to include the latest available on
the website.  The K3S manual is apparently not posted yet and the KXV3B
installation instructions refer to the section on enabling modules in the
"owners manual".
> 
> Jim - W0EB
> 
> 
>> Tap '9' when the KXV menu item is displayed.
>> 
>> The same thing happened to me.
>> 
>> Works great now.
>> 
>> K3 # 6108, fw v5.26
>> 
>> 
>> Steve KZ1X/4
>> ______________________________________________________________
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From rwnewbould at comcast.net  Mon Jun  8 08:27:09 2015
From: rwnewbould at comcast.net (Rich)
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 08:27:09 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KRC2 for Sale
Message-ID: <55758A1D.2080903@comcast.net>

I have a KRC2 (currently setup for Icom) for sale.

Contact me off list.

k3rwn at arrl.net

Rich

From n6kr at elecraft.com  Mon Jun  8 11:12:32 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 08:12:32 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] KXV3B installation
In-Reply-To: <6F66B471D49F455F86AFD96DD1966362@DOUG1>
References: <emf913b5b4-e507-4f7a-a9e4-30db3adf25d9@hamradio-pc>
	<268251EB-ECD9-471A-AF48-683E02B485BE@elecraft.com>
	<6F66B471D49F455F86AFD96DD1966362@DOUG1>
Message-ID: <A69EEAD1-2B7C-441F-88DA-58A41758C893@elecraft.com>

Hi Doug,

You don't need to remove the amplifier to put in a KXV3B. 

If you have a basic K3, you only have to take out the KIO3. If you have a sub receiver or K144XV, they'll need to be removed. But this is all very well documented in our installation manuals, and I can do it blindfolded with a slight hangover in about 15 minutes.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jun 8, 2015, at 1:24 AM, Doug Turnbull <turnbull at net1.ie> wrote:

> Hi Wayne and company,
>     Could you please provide a thumb nail sketch as to how much surgery is
> required to install the new KXVB3 when the likes of a second receiver and or
> two meter option are included in the K3?   Is there a need to remove the
> power amplifier for example?     How long typically does it take to install
> the KXVB3 in different scenarios?
> 
>      Thanks for the continuing development and for keeping existing
> products close to the best performance obtainable.   As much as your product
> it is the Elecraft people and their approach which is so unique.
> 
>              73 Doug EI2CN
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne
> Burdick
> Sent: 08 June 2015 04:04
> To: Jim Sheldon
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] KXV3B installation
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> We intended to post the revised KXV3B installation instructions before
> shipping it, but they beat us to it. Sorry about that.
> 
> The KXV3B is very well covered in all respects in the K3S owner's manual,
> including enable and preamp 2 setup. The K3S manual will be posted soon.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 7, 2015, at 6:11 AM, Jim Sheldon <w0eb at cox.net> wrote:
> 
>> Other than when it was posted on the reflector yesterday, I'd like to know
> where this information originally came from.  It was not in the installation
> instructions and so far, I can't find it anywhere on the Elecraft website
> and of course it is not in the K3 manuals to include the latest available on
> the website.  The K3S manual is apparently not posted yet and the KXV3B
> installation instructions refer to the section on enabling modules in the
> "owners manual".
>> 
>> Jim - W0EB
>> 
>> 
>>> Tap '9' when the KXV menu item is displayed.
>>> 
>>> The same thing happened to me.
>>> 
>>> Works great now.
>>> 
>>> K3 # 6108, fw v5.26
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Steve KZ1X/4
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>> 
>> ______________________________________________________________
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From turnbull at net1.ie  Mon Jun  8 11:39:08 2015
From: turnbull at net1.ie (Doug Turnbull)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 15:39:08 -0000
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] KXV3B installation
In-Reply-To: <A69EEAD1-2B7C-441F-88DA-58A41758C893@elecraft.com>
References: <emf913b5b4-e507-4f7a-a9e4-30db3adf25d9@hamradio-pc>
	<268251EB-ECD9-471A-AF48-683E02B485BE@elecraft.com>
	<6F66B471D49F455F86AFD96DD1966362@DOUG1>
	<A69EEAD1-2B7C-441F-88DA-58A41758C893@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <5BB7C3ECA7CF4DBDBA9E137B6EBC4173@DOUG1>

Hi Wayne,
    Thank you this sounds good to me.     I will be changing to the KXV3B.
              73 Doug EI2CN

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Burdick [mailto:n6kr at elecraft.com] 
Sent: 08 June 2015 15:13
To: Doug Turnbull
Cc: 'Jim Sheldon'; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] KXV3B installation

Hi Doug,

You don't need to remove the amplifier to put in a KXV3B. 

If you have a basic K3, you only have to take out the KIO3. If you have a
sub receiver or K144XV, they'll need to be removed. But this is all very
well documented in our installation manuals, and I can do it blindfolded
with a slight hangover in about 15 minutes.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jun 8, 2015, at 1:24 AM, Doug Turnbull <turnbull at net1.ie> wrote:

> Hi Wayne and company,
>     Could you please provide a thumb nail sketch as to how much surgery is
> required to install the new KXVB3 when the likes of a second receiver and
or
> two meter option are included in the K3?   Is there a need to remove the
> power amplifier for example?     How long typically does it take to
install
> the KXVB3 in different scenarios?
> 
>      Thanks for the continuing development and for keeping existing
> products close to the best performance obtainable.   As much as your
product
> it is the Elecraft people and their approach which is so unique.
> 
>              73 Doug EI2CN
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
Wayne
> Burdick
> Sent: 08 June 2015 04:04
> To: Jim Sheldon
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] KXV3B installation
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> We intended to post the revised KXV3B installation instructions before
> shipping it, but they beat us to it. Sorry about that.
> 
> The KXV3B is very well covered in all respects in the K3S owner's manual,
> including enable and preamp 2 setup. The K3S manual will be posted soon.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 7, 2015, at 6:11 AM, Jim Sheldon <w0eb at cox.net> wrote:
> 
>> Other than when it was posted on the reflector yesterday, I'd like to
know
> where this information originally came from.  It was not in the
installation
> instructions and so far, I can't find it anywhere on the Elecraft website
> and of course it is not in the K3 manuals to include the latest available
on
> the website.  The K3S manual is apparently not posted yet and the KXV3B
> installation instructions refer to the section on enabling modules in the
> "owners manual".
>> 
>> Jim - W0EB
>> 
>> 
>>> Tap '9' when the KXV menu item is displayed.
>>> 
>>> The same thing happened to me.
>>> 
>>> Works great now.
>>> 
>>> K3 # 6108, fw v5.26
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Steve KZ1X/4
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>> 
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From phystad at mac.com  Mon Jun  8 12:41:11 2015
From: phystad at mac.com (Phil Hystad)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 09:41:11 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] KXV3B installation
In-Reply-To: <A69EEAD1-2B7C-441F-88DA-58A41758C893@elecraft.com>
References: <emf913b5b4-e507-4f7a-a9e4-30db3adf25d9@hamradio-pc>
	<268251EB-ECD9-471A-AF48-683E02B485BE@elecraft.com>
	<6F66B471D49F455F86AFD96DD1966362@DOUG1>
	<A69EEAD1-2B7C-441F-88DA-58A41758C893@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <A9BE47FD-4E7F-47FA-B48A-96FF8A67007B@mac.com>

> ?. and I can do it blindfolded with a slight hangover in about 15 minutes.


I would like to see that.  Would be a great video for the Elecraft web page advertising the engineering and design of the K3.

So, you don?t need to have a hangover but maybe blindfolded and a 15-minute timer and the video recording the progress.  We can even skip the part of taking the lid or sides off.

Post on Youtube and get 50,000 views per week!  Sell advertising and then retire to Gilroy to relax in the benefits of your celebrity.

73, phil, K7PEH


> On Jun 8, 2015, at 8:12 AM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Doug,
> 
> You don't need to remove the amplifier to put in a KXV3B. 
> 
> If you have a basic K3, you only have to take out the KIO3. If you have a sub receiver or K144XV, they'll need to be removed. But this is all very well documented in our installation manuals, and I can do it blindfolded with a slight hangover in about 15 minutes.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> On Jun 8, 2015, at 1:24 AM, Doug Turnbull <turnbull at net1.ie> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Wayne and company,
>>    Could you please provide a thumb nail sketch as to how much surgery is
>> required to install the new KXVB3 when the likes of a second receiver and or
>> two meter option are included in the K3?   Is there a need to remove the
>> power amplifier for example?     How long typically does it take to install
>> the KXVB3 in different scenarios?
>> 
>>     Thanks for the continuing development and for keeping existing
>> products close to the best performance obtainable.   As much as your product
>> it is the Elecraft people and their approach which is so unique.
>> 
>>             73 Doug EI2CN
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne
>> Burdick
>> Sent: 08 June 2015 04:04
>> To: Jim Sheldon
>> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] KXV3B installation
>> 
>> Hi Jim,
>> 
>> We intended to post the revised KXV3B installation instructions before
>> shipping it, but they beat us to it. Sorry about that.
>> 
>> The KXV3B is very well covered in all respects in the K3S owner's manual,
>> including enable and preamp 2 setup. The K3S manual will be posted soon.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 7, 2015, at 6:11 AM, Jim Sheldon <w0eb at cox.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Other than when it was posted on the reflector yesterday, I'd like to know
>> where this information originally came from.  It was not in the installation
>> instructions and so far, I can't find it anywhere on the Elecraft website
>> and of course it is not in the K3 manuals to include the latest available on
>> the website.  The K3S manual is apparently not posted yet and the KXV3B
>> installation instructions refer to the section on enabling modules in the
>> "owners manual".
>>> 
>>> Jim - W0EB
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Tap '9' when the KXV menu item is displayed.
>>>> 
>>>> The same thing happened to me.
>>>> 
>>>> Works great now.
>>>> 
>>>> K3 # 6108, fw v5.26
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Steve KZ1X/4
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>> 
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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From jim at jtmiller.com  Mon Jun  8 12:56:50 2015
From: jim at jtmiller.com (Jim Miller)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 12:56:50 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] KXV3B installation
In-Reply-To: <A69EEAD1-2B7C-441F-88DA-58A41758C893@elecraft.com>
References: <emf913b5b4-e507-4f7a-a9e4-30db3adf25d9@hamradio-pc>
	<268251EB-ECD9-471A-AF48-683E02B485BE@elecraft.com>
	<6F66B471D49F455F86AFD96DD1966362@DOUG1>
	<A69EEAD1-2B7C-441F-88DA-58A41758C893@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <CACYeN9yCWYZ5NXUbc_dk+HgoRKYSjMLLRWu2Zu9TuOKP4T+Z5A@mail.gmail.com>

No long haired cat? What music is playing?

73

jim ab3cv

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:

>  I can do it blindfolded with a slight hangover in about 15 minutes.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>

From rpfjeld at outlook.com  Mon Jun  8 13:56:48 2015
From: rpfjeld at outlook.com (Richard Fjeld)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 12:56:48 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3-P3 SSB spectrum
In-Reply-To: <5574B072.6020507@subich.com>
References: <55749C4B.2060606@foothill.net>,<5574B072.6020507@subich.com>
Message-ID: <BAY173-W324AF01248F3F3D42F5EB3BFBF0@phx.gbl>

Just a comment somewhat related to this thread.  Not long ago, a ham with an SDR set-up was comparing signals in a round-table for proper bandwidth. 

He said my signal was very clean and asked me to crank up my Mic gain to the max which I reluctantly did for a short transmission. He said it stayed clean with no splatter.  Can that be? I thought any radio would splatter if over-driven.

For me, seeing is believing.    Dick, n0ce


  




> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 16:58:26 -0400
> From: lists at subich.com
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3-P3 SSB spectrum
> 
> 
> The TX Monitor is a time domain display - not a frequency domain
> display.  If you want to see the frequency domain display of your
> own signal, temporarily disconnect the RS-232 cable between the
> two (or connect another SDR to a directional coupler in the antenna
> line).
> 
> 73,
> 
>     ... Joe, W4TV
> 

 		 	   		  

From h3cary at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 14:15:17 2015
From: h3cary at gmail.com (H. Cary)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 14:15:17 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3-100 SOLD
Message-ID: <76D08125-1AAA-4BBB-A228-09F1C0CA9E01@gmail.com>

K3-100 #3448 has been sold. 
73,
Cary, K4TM

Sent from Clovelly Cottage, home of amateur radio station K4TM and the most creative Sue Cary, with my iPhone 6 in Lynchburg VA - a great place to live, work, play, and retire!

From giw at bellsouth.net  Mon Jun  8 14:37:34 2015
From: giw at bellsouth.net (giw at bellsouth.net)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 14:37:34 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 use with steppir antenna
Message-ID: <26E9F37FE494479B83DB003FA1AA210A@UserPC>

anyone using a steppir  antenna with the K3 and a logging program, please tell me how you have them connected.  Thanks w4giw

From lists at subich.com  Mon Jun  8 14:44:05 2015
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 14:44:05 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3-P3 SSB spectrum
In-Reply-To: <BAY173-W324AF01248F3F3D42F5EB3BFBF0@phx.gbl>
References: <55749C4B.2060606@foothill.net>, <5574B072.6020507@subich.com>
	<BAY173-W324AF01248F3F3D42F5EB3BFBF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5575E275.500@subich.com>


 > He said my signal was very clean and asked me to crank up my Mic gain
 > to the max which I reluctantly did for a short transmission. He said
 > it stayed clean with no splatter.  Can that be?

The K3 ALC is *very* effective.  It does not rely on over driving the
final amplifier to produce a feedback voltage to reduce gain; instead
it keeps the drive from the DSP modulation process to the level needed
for the selected power output based on the results of the TXG (transmit
gain) calibration.  That means the K3 does not overdrive the transmit
IF stages, the low power (driver) amplifier or the KPA3 no matter how
high you turn the mic gain or the compression level.

Yes, the excess compression/mic gain can cause distortion in the DSP
modulator but *will not* generate excess bandwidth.  Further, since
the DSP generated transmit signal goes through the 2.7 or 2.8 KHz
filter before passing through the transmit IF, any spatter if further
reduced and - more importantly - no more is generated in the rest of
the transmit chain because it is run strictly below clipping level at
all stages (unless there is a *device failure* in the LPA or KPA3).

Every other transceiver (except, perhaps the Flex 6000 series and
ANAN) uses a closed loop ALC which is susceptible to distortion from
both overshoot and misalignment of individual stage gains.  In the
days of tube type transmitters this was not the issue it is now since
tubes had a relatively "soft" clipping point - the transition from
gain compression to hard clipping occurred over a large change in
input levels - such that ALC feedback (typically grid current in the
final amplifiers) started well before the tubes saturated.  However,
with most transistors and FETs the change in input drive necessary
to move from the 1 dB compression point to saturation is very small
(as little as 1 dB or 20% increase in drive) and that can occur in
any of several places (IF, driver, final).

As soon as any single stage is driven even close to saturation the
signal goes to crap - one need only look at some of the "big signals"
on the band with a good SDR or the P3 to see many that look like
AM signals with no carrier due to the amount of IMD that appears in
the "other sideband".

 > I thought any radio would splatter if over-driven.

To review ... the K3's ALC circuits assure that none of the "post
filter" stages are ever over-driven.  While the in-band audio can
become badly distorted through a combination of excess drive to the
DSP (high mic gain) and excess clipping/compression, once the DSP
and IF filter have set the transmit bandwidth, the ALC *prevents* 
overdrive and assures that the frequency conversion and amplification
processes do not allow the signal to become excessively wide.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-06-08 1:56 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote:
> Just a comment somewhat related to this thread.  Not long ago, a ham
> with an SDR set-up was comparing signals in a round-table for proper
> bandwidth.
>
> He said my signal was very clean and asked me to crank up my Mic gain
> to the max which I reluctantly did for a short transmission. He said
> it stayed clean with no splatter.  Can that be? I thought any radio
> would splatter if over-driven.
>
> For me, seeing is believing.    Dick, n0ce
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 16:58:26 -0400 From: lists at subich.com To:
>> elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3-P3 SSB
>> spectrum
>>
>>
>> The TX Monitor is a time domain display - not a frequency domain
>> display.  If you want to see the frequency domain display of your
>> own signal, temporarily disconnect the RS-232 cable between the two
>> (or connect another SDR to a directional coupler in the antenna
>> line).
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>
>
>
>

From carl at n8vz.com  Mon Jun  8 15:04:08 2015
From: carl at n8vz.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Carl_J=F3n_Denbow?=)
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 15:04:08 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 for Broadcast Band DX
Message-ID: <5575E728.8040007@n8vz.com>

I sometimes like to do a little Broadcast Band DX, takes me back to my 
high schools days with my GE transistor radio under the pillow.  I think 
some of you know the story. ;-)  At any rate, I have the general 
coverage module installed in the main receiver, but I have found the 
sensitivity of it in the broadcast band to be horrible.  I can hook up 
my Palstar R40 and get a 40 over signal from a station, but with the K3 
hooked up to the same antenna that station is an S4  --  just barely 
over the noise level.  This is a station 100 miles way that I could 
receive on that old GE transistor radio at what would have at least been 
an S9 signal.  Therefore, at this juncture, the K3 is totally not up to 
the job when it comes to broadcast band DX hunting.  What's up here?
-- 
=================================================
Carl J?n Denbow, N8VZ
17 Coventry Lane
Athens, Ohio 45701-3718

carl at n8vz.com
www.n8vz.com
EM89wh

IRLP 4533   Echolink 116070

PSK and JT65 Forever!
=================================================


From lists at subich.com  Mon Jun  8 15:25:36 2015
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 15:25:36 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 for Broadcast Band DX
In-Reply-To: <5575E728.8040007@n8vz.com>
References: <5575E728.8040007@n8vz.com>
Message-ID: <5575EC30.20003@subich.com>


> Therefore, at this juncture, the K3 is totally not up to the job when
> it comes to broadcast band DX hunting. What's up here?

As documented here literally dozens of times, the TR switch contains a
high-pass filter with a 1600 KHz cutoff to protect the PIN diodes and
keep them from generating interference due to strong broadcast band
signals.  If you want to receive the broadcast (and MW bands) with full
sensitivity, 1) install the BPF3 receive filter *and* 2) use a separate
receive antenna connected to either the RX ANT IN jack or the XVTR IN
jack.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-06-08 3:04 PM, Carl J?n Denbow wrote:
> I sometimes like to do a little Broadcast Band DX, takes me back to my
> high schools days with my GE transistor radio under the pillow.  I think
> some of you know the story. ;-)  At any rate, I have the general
> coverage module installed in the main receiver, but I have found the
> sensitivity of it in the broadcast band to be horrible.  I can hook up
> my Palstar R40 and get a 40 over signal from a station, but with the K3
> hooked up to the same antenna that station is an S4  --  just barely
> over the noise level.  This is a station 100 miles way that I could
> receive on that old GE transistor radio at what would have at least been
> an S9 signal.  Therefore, at this juncture, the K3 is totally not up to
> the job when it comes to broadcast band DX hunting.  What's up here?

From carl at n8vz.com  Mon Jun  8 15:41:23 2015
From: carl at n8vz.com (=?UTF-8?B?Q2FybCBKw7NuIERlbmJvdw==?=)
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 15:41:23 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 for Broadcast Band DX
In-Reply-To: <5575EC30.20003@subich.com>
References: <5575E728.8040007@n8vz.com> <5575EC30.20003@subich.com>
Message-ID: <5575EFE3.3070901@n8vz.com>

Thanks, Joe.  I knew there was some logical explanation.  I did do a 
search of previous posts before I asked my question and I didn't find 
any post that was the direct answer I needed.

73,

Carl
N8VZ

> Joe Subich, W4TV <mailto:lists at subich.com>
> Monday, June 8, 2015 3:25 PM
>
>> Therefore, at this juncture, the K3 is totally not up to the job when
>> it comes to broadcast band DX hunting. What's up here?
>
> As documented here literally dozens of times, the TR switch contains a
> high-pass filter with a 1600 KHz cutoff to protect the PIN diodes and
> keep them from generating interference due to strong broadcast band
> signals.  If you want to receive the broadcast (and MW bands) with full
> sensitivity, 1) install the BPF3 receive filter *and* 2) use a separate
> receive antenna connected to either the RX ANT IN jack or the XVTR IN
> jack.
>
> 73,
>
>   ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 2015-06-08 3:04 PM, Carl J?n Denbow wrote:
>> I sometimes like to do a little Broadcast Band DX, takes me back to my
>> high schools days with my GE transistor radio under the pillow.  I think
>> some of you know the story. ;-)  At any rate, I have the general
>> coverage module installed in the main receiver, but I have found the
>> sensitivity of it in the broadcast band to be horrible.  I can hook up
>> my Palstar R40 and get a 40 over signal from a station, but with the K3
>> hooked up to the same antenna that station is an S4  --  just barely
>> over the noise level.  This is a station 100 miles way that I could
>> receive on that old GE transistor radio at what would have at least been
>> an S9 signal.  Therefore, at this juncture, the K3 is totally not up to
>> the job when it comes to broadcast band DX hunting.  What's up here?
> ______________________________________________________________
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> Carl J?n Denbow <mailto:carl at n8vz.com>
> Monday, June 8, 2015 3:04 PM
> I sometimes like to do a little Broadcast Band DX, takes me back to my 
> high schools days with my GE transistor radio under the pillow.  I 
> think some of you know the story. ;-)  At any rate, I have the general 
> coverage module installed in the main receiver, but I have found the 
> sensitivity of it in the broadcast band to be horrible.  I can hook up 
> my Palstar R40 and get a 40 over signal from a station, but with the 
> K3 hooked up to the same antenna that station is an S4  --  just 
> barely over the noise level.  This is a station 100 miles way that I 
> could receive on that old GE transistor radio at what would have at 
> least been an S9 signal.  Therefore, at this juncture, the K3 is 
> totally not up to the job when it comes to broadcast band DX hunting.  
> What's up here?

-- 
=================================================
Carl J?n Denbow, N8VZ
17 Coventry Lane
Athens, Ohio 45701-3718

carl at n8vz.com
www.n8vz.com
EM89wh

IRLP 4533   Echolink 116070

PSK and JT65 Forever!
=================================================


From aldenmcduffie at sunflower.com  Mon Jun  8 16:18:44 2015
From: aldenmcduffie at sunflower.com (Phil Anderson)
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 15:18:44 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 use with steppir antenna
In-Reply-To: <26E9F37FE494479B83DB003FA1AA210A@UserPC>
References: <26E9F37FE494479B83DB003FA1AA210A@UserPC>
Message-ID: <5575F8A4.3090001@sunflower.com>

W4GIW de W0XI,

I built a K3 kit with P3 last November (2014) and have been learning and 
enjoying. Prior to that I had (and still have) a Yeasu FT450D with YT450 
auto-tuner and SteppIR Vertical (33 foot max). Not sure if you are 
referring to a yagi-like stepper? Anyway, for now here's how I've been 
using the SteppIR vertical with the K3/P3 combo:

I have both the N3FJP and N1MM+ software and use both of them for 
different things with the K3. Most recently I've been using the N1MM+ 
for generic logging (using a modified contest log) so that I can 
record/change the frequency of the K3 from the keyboard and enter the 
call, RST and exchange if any. I have not, at this time, spent the time 
to figure out how to auto tune using the N1MM+ for the K3. For example, 
If I start out at 14025 on CW, I'll enter that into the SteppIR control 
box and then check the tuning with the ATU button on the K3. I seldom 
tune more than +- 25 kHz from 14025 (all CW) so don't seem to need to 
retune with the ATU button. I do watch the SWR display next to the 
transmit power indicator, bar graph. Then hit the ATU button if necessary.

I do like having the N1MM+ log the frequency of the QSO (and the time, 
etc), which it does, so I don't have to write anything down.

When time, I'll study how to merge the checking of the SWR with the 
N1MM+ and the K3 auto-wise; guessing that is possible.

So I guess you could say I'm half-automized! Hi. 73, Uncle Phil, W0XI, 
Lawrence, KS.

> giw at bellsouth.net <mailto:giw at bellsouth.net>
> Monday, June 08, 2015 1:37 PM
> anyone using a steppir antenna with the K3 and a logging program, 
> please tell me how you have them connected. Thanks w4giw
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From k2av.guy at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 16:20:28 2015
From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 16:20:28 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3-P3 SSB spectrum
In-Reply-To: <BAY173-W324AF01248F3F3D42F5EB3BFBF0@phx.gbl>
References: <55749C4B.2060606@foothill.net> <5574B072.6020507@subich.com>
	<BAY173-W324AF01248F3F3D42F5EB3BFBF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CANckpc3E-apXnb=ASMDvbGbMpNPc1FpqApDeg5Dt5heHxPF8AQ@mail.gmail.com>

Perhaps it would be good for understanding to know that the audio
processing algorithms in a K3 are entirely digital. Any analog audio input
to the K3 is immediately converted to a number soup, and at that point any
analog mental pictures of what happens no longer apply.

ALC, as understood from older analog circuits, is really not a good
description. Clipping is not a good description. Our mental expectation
from those processes include the effects of diodes that run those processes
as implemented in older analog circuit rigs.

Even compression, as we are used to hearing it, does not apply. You simply
are not driving diodes anywhere in the audio process.

Wayne has devised proprietary algorithms for processing the number soup
that is your digitized audio. It is our unconscious analog evaluation of
four bars solid and the fifth flickering that makes that smell like
overdriving and distortion to us. In the number soup plus algorithm world,
that is no big deal.

In this day and age there are many solid and verified digital processes in
use that simply have no analog circuit equivalent at all.

The only reason we have "volume controls" is the need for analog-minded
operators (that is not a dun, just a reality) to be able to intuitively
operate the rig.

The four double knobs on the front left of the rig each control a
potentiometer which has a standard voltage across it. The wipe of the pot
goes to a very minimalist analog-digital converter which then sends a
number across a multiplexed digital bus to the CPU. The pot+A/D converter
sends NUMERICAL ADVICE to the CPU.

Contrary to an analog circuit understanding, there is never an audio
voltage across the pot. There will never be scratchy audio due to
incomplete contact by the pot wiper arm.

The four knobs to the right of the concentrics are all encoders. The advice
to the CPU from them is "I have just been advanced one blip clockwise, or
one blip counterclockwise." Every effect from those is entirely
programmatic in the firmware.

The K3 is made to seem like an analog radio to allow intuitive operation,
but it is the firmware that sets the essential behavior of the radio.
Analog considerations apply to things like amplifiers in the
transmit/amplifier chain, or in physical characteristics of synthesizers,
etc, for things like distortion, noise, state changes, etc.

Brave new world, digital. When I can't stand it any more, I go turn on my
Collins 75A3, Johnson Ranger and Courier, breathe a sign of relief and do
things the old way for a while. There everything is simple, all tubes,
electronic parts you can see without magnification, what I learned from my
Elmers, and doesn't require any non-intuitive thinking to understand. If I
don't want to deal with throwing all the RX/TX switches, I turn on the
Yaesu FT101ZD, which is a treasured gift from PEARL back in my New York
days. But it's mostly transistors, so not strictly legit.

I put up with all this digital nonsense in a K3 because I like hearing 20
dB farther down into the soup than with my 75A3. I like being able to have
my voice processed into something that carries in all the cr*p on the SSB
frequencies. I like the visual graphical display of all the frequencies. I
like the digital settings that cancel out key clicks. I like the filter
response skirts that go all the way down to somewhere below the water
table. I really like my K3 for all kinds of reasons.

And the ghost of my WCTT Chief Engineer elmer, who spent his time building
exact copies of Gates AM BC 833 tube transmitters, holed up in the
transmitter building down at the "swamp" in Corbin, Ky where I took my
first FCC exam, just gave me a good swift kick in the b*tt, and whispered
"Traitor" in my ear.

There wasn't a transistor anywhere in that place at the time, and certainly
nothing digital except the power switches :>)

73, Y'all

Guy K2AV

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Richard Fjeld <rpfjeld at outlook.com> wrote:

> Just a comment somewhat related to this thread.  Not long ago, a ham with
> an SDR set-up was comparing signals in a round-table for proper bandwidth.
>
> He said my signal was very clean and asked me to crank up my Mic gain to
> the max which I reluctantly did for a short transmission. He said it stayed
> clean with no splatter.  Can that be? I thought any radio would splatter if
> over-driven.
>
> For me, seeing is believing.    Dick, n0ce
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 16:58:26 -0400
> > From: lists at subich.com
> > To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3-P3 SSB spectrum
> >
> >
> > The TX Monitor is a time domain display - not a frequency domain
> > display.  If you want to see the frequency domain display of your
> > own signal, temporarily disconnect the RS-232 cable between the
> > two (or connect another SDR to a directional coupler in the antenna
> > line).
> >
> > 73,
> >
> >     ... Joe, W4TV
> >
>
>
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From lists at subich.com  Mon Jun  8 16:49:25 2015
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 16:49:25 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 use with steppir antenna
In-Reply-To: <26E9F37FE494479B83DB003FA1AA210A@UserPC>
References: <26E9F37FE494479B83DB003FA1AA210A@UserPC>
Message-ID: <5575FFD5.2060209@subich.com>


The simple way to use a SteppIR antenna (any version) with K3 and
logging program is to use SteppIR's 9 pin "Y" cable and RTS_S13
transceiver interface cable.

The common leg of the "Y" cable (DB9F) connects to the computer
serial port or USB to serial converter.  The "Radio" leg (DB9M)
of the Y cable connects to the "SteppIR" end (DB9F) of the RTS_S13
cable, the "Radio" end (DB9M) of RTS_S13 connects to the K3 (or P3)
and the "SteppIR" end of the "Y" cable connects to the DATA IN jack
on the SteppIR controller.

Configure the SteppIR Transceiver Interface Mode to Kenwood/Elecraft
at 38,400 bps, Set your logging program, K3 and P3 to 38,400 bps
and configure the K3 CONFIG:AUTOINF = NOR.

Turn on the Auto mode (SDA-100) or General mode (Original controller)
on the SteppIR.

The SteppIR controller will respond (follow frequency) to data from
the K3 in response to the logger's polling as long as the logger is
running.   When the logger is not running, the Autoinf=NOR setting
should cause the K3 to send frequency data every time the VFO knob
is moved.

Beware that *some* computer serial ports/serial to USB converters
will load the K3 data output lines when the computer is turned off.
It may be necessary to disconnect the cable from the computer
serial port/USB to serial adapter when the computer is turned off.


73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-06-08 2:37 PM, giw at bellsouth.net wrote:
> anyone using a steppir  antenna with the K3 and a logging program, please tell me how you have them connected.  Thanks w4giw
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Mon Jun  8 17:09:49 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 14:09:49 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S Owner's Manual now available on-line
Message-ID: <134D01F3-F7B3-4D8F-B298-C69FEF61A37A@elecraft.com>

Hi all,

The K3S owner's manual and errata can be obtained using these links:

   http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3S%20Owner%27s%20man%20A1.pdf
   http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3S%20Owner%27s%20man%20errata%20A1-1.pdf

This is the first edition of the manual, so there are likely to be further improvements. Feel free to send comments and suggestions directly to me.

If you're already familiar with the K3, and would like to avoid reading the entire K3S manual just to find out what's new, you might check out at least following pages:

   3  intro, which summary of improvements from K3 -> K3S
   7  more detail on features
  17  rear panel (see KIO3B panel, upper RH corner)
  18  K3S/P3/PC connections via USB, etc.
  25  preamp and attenuator controls
  41  using the 100-550 kHz range
  45  details on preamp 2 (with sub RX, etc.)
  47  updated list of option modules, including applicability
  49  module enables (note that the KXV3B is included with the K3S--no longer an option)
  50  misc. new considerations for radio configuration
  50  a nice side view of new VFO A rubber band :)
  55  main menu listings (including new ATTEN menu entry, linked to the ATTN switch)
  57  config menu listings (new PREAMP 2 menu entry; some others rewritten to improve clarity, e.g. SIG RMV)
  79  theory of operation, KIO3B
  81  theory of operation, KSYN3A

In addition to the above, the manual has been general improved and clarified.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



   



From pfizenmayer at q.com  Mon Jun  8 17:14:37 2015
From: pfizenmayer at q.com (Hank P)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 14:14:37 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 for Broadcast Band DX
In-Reply-To: <5575EC30.20003@subich.com>
References: <5575E728.8040007@n8vz.com> <5575EC30.20003@subich.com>
Message-ID: <708EA7321124411E815BC312005C9002@HANKPC>

Along this subject of BPF3 - When I assembled my K3 with sub rx - I put the
BPF3 in the sub rx  - on the assumption that it might degrade the out of
band main rx protection with some filter  blow by  if I put it in the main
rx path. Now I wish I had put in in the main rx so I could use the P3  out
of the ham bands- especially below 160)

Was this a false worry ? (I live in a hot bed within 3 to 4 miles of several
contesters / dxers with HUGE signals at my place - two of whom can put 50 to
100 mv of signal here on 160 - easy to see both on a scope on antenna)

I am going to buy the new KXV3B and will have to take the sub rx out to
install and that would be a good time to move that filter if its not an
issue.

Hank K7HP



-----Original Message----- 
From: Joe Subich, W4TV
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 12:25 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 for Broadcast Band DX


> Therefore, at this juncture, the K3 is totally not up to the job when
> it comes to broadcast band DX hunting. What's up here?

As documented here literally dozens of times, the TR switch contains a
high-pass filter with a 1600 KHz cutoff to protect the PIN diodes and
keep them from generating interference due to strong broadcast band
signals.  If you want to receive the broadcast (and MW bands) with full
sensitivity, 1) install the BPF3 receive filter *and* 2) use a separate
receive antenna connected to either the RX ANT IN jack or the XVTR IN
jack.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-06-08 3:04 PM, Carl J?n Denbow wrote:
> I sometimes like to do a little Broadcast Band DX, takes me back to my
> high schools days with my GE transistor radio under the pillow.  I think
> some of you know the story. ;-)  At any rate, I have the general
> coverage module installed in the main receiver, but I have found the
> sensitivity of it in the broadcast band to be horrible.  I can hook up
> my Palstar R40 and get a 40 over signal from a station, but with the K3
> hooked up to the same antenna that station is an S4  --  just barely
> over the noise level.  This is a station 100 miles way that I could
> receive on that old GE transistor radio at what would have at least been
> an S9 signal.  Therefore, at this juncture, the K3 is totally not up to
> the job when it comes to broadcast band DX hunting.  What's up here?
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From k6dgw at foothill.net  Mon Jun  8 17:16:47 2015
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 14:16:47 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re:  K3-P3 SSB spectrum
In-Reply-To: <557605F0.5000107@foothill.net>
References: <557605F0.5000107@foothill.net>
Message-ID: <5576063F.8090803@foothill.net>

I think understand this but then of course I thought I understood
Economics 101 in college which turned out to be seriously untrue ...

Turning the MIC GAIN way up on say an HT-37 increased the drive to the
PA and eventually saturated it, creating havoc on the band.

The K3 does not control power with the MIC GAIN.  The PWR control sets a
"requested" power output.  The internal power control loop then measures
the power level of the RF being made and adjusts it to meet the
requested level.

On SSB [and AFSK/DATA A] the MIC GAIN needs to be high enough so that
the power control loop can meet its target power,  That's the first 4
bars of the ALC meter.  Anything higher than that just lowers the system
gain til the target power is met.  Or something like that [while waving
arms]...

I would imagine that turning the MIC GAIN way up would get a lot of
extraneous room noise onto your signal.  I don't get on SSB all that
often, but mine is set for 4 bars with the 5th just flickering on peaks,
and 10 dB compression on peaks.  Other people seem to like it when I
talk to them.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org

PS: There was never any doubt that I did *not* understand O'chem.


On 6/8/2015 10:56 AM, Richard Fjeld wrote:
> Just a comment somewhat related to this thread.  Not long ago, a ham
> with an SDR set-up was comparing signals in a round-table for proper
> bandwidth.
>
> He said my signal was very clean and asked me to crank up my Mic gain
> to the max which I reluctantly did for a short transmission. He said
> it stayed clean with no splatter.  Can that be? I thought any radio
> would splatter if over-driven.
>
> For me, seeing is believing.    Dick, n0ce
>
>> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 16:58:26 -0400 From: lists at subich.com To:
>> elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3-P3 SSB
>> spectrum
>>
>>
>> The TX Monitor is a time domain display - not a frequency domain
>> display.  If you want to see the frequency domain display of your
>> own signal, temporarily disconnect the RS-232 cable between the two
>> (or connect another SDR to a directional coupler in the antenna
>> line).
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> ... Joe, W4TV


From n6kr at elecraft.com  Mon Jun  8 17:22:13 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 14:22:13 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 for Broadcast Band DX
In-Reply-To: <708EA7321124411E815BC312005C9002@HANKPC>
References: <5575E728.8040007@n8vz.com> <5575EC30.20003@subich.com>
	<708EA7321124411E815BC312005C9002@HANKPC>
Message-ID: <C36B5463-2017-408C-AEA2-531856BD0932@elecraft.com>

Hank,

When you're in or close to a ham band, the broader KBPF3 filters are not used; the K3's narrow ham-band filters are used. This applies to both the main and sub receivers. The KBPF3's filters are only used when you're far enough outside a ham band to result in noticeable loss of sensitivity.

So in answer to your question: No, you don't need to worry. When the KBPF3 is not in use (main or sub), it is completely out of the circuit, having no impact on filtering.

By the way: the K3's narrow ham-band filters are one of its biggest assets. Most transceivers these days, even superhet designs, use very broad filters intended to cover multiple bands. The K3 (and K3S), in contrast, use filters that just cover the ham band of interest, providing high degree of rejection of out of band signals. This has a secondary benefit in reduction of "IP2" (intermodulation products resulting from the mixing of strong signals prior to the band pass filter array).

73,
Wayne
N6KR




On Jun 8, 2015, at 2:14 PM, "Hank P" <pfizenmayer at q.com> wrote:

> Along this subject of BPF3 - When I assembled my K3 with sub rx - I put the
> BPF3 in the sub rx  - on the assumption that it might degrade the out of
> band main rx protection with some filter  blow by  if I put it in the main
> rx path. Now I wish I had put in in the main rx so I could use the P3  out
> of the ham bands- especially below 160)
> 
> Was this a false worry ? (I live in a hot bed within 3 to 4 miles of several
> contesters / dxers with HUGE signals at my place - two of whom can put 50 to
> 100 mv of signal here on 160 - easy to see both on a scope on antenna)
> 
> I am going to buy the new KXV3B and will have to take the sub rx out to
> install and that would be a good time to move that filter if its not an
> issue.
> 
> Hank K7HP
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Joe Subich, W4TV
> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 12:25 PM
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 for Broadcast Band DX
> 
> 
>> Therefore, at this juncture, the K3 is totally not up to the job when
>> it comes to broadcast band DX hunting. What's up here?
> 
> As documented here literally dozens of times, the TR switch contains a
> high-pass filter with a 1600 KHz cutoff to protect the PIN diodes and
> keep them from generating interference due to strong broadcast band
> signals.  If you want to receive the broadcast (and MW bands) with full
> sensitivity, 1) install the BPF3 receive filter *and* 2) use a separate
> receive antenna connected to either the RX ANT IN jack or the XVTR IN
> jack.
> 
> 73,
> 
>  ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
> On 2015-06-08 3:04 PM, Carl J?n Denbow wrote:
>> I sometimes like to do a little Broadcast Band DX, takes me back to my
>> high schools days with my GE transistor radio under the pillow.  I think
>> some of you know the story. ;-)  At any rate, I have the general
>> coverage module installed in the main receiver, but I have found the
>> sensitivity of it in the broadcast band to be horrible.  I can hook up
>> my Palstar R40 and get a 40 over signal from a station, but with the K3
>> hooked up to the same antenna that station is an S4  --  just barely
>> over the noise level.  This is a station 100 miles way that I could
>> receive on that old GE transistor radio at what would have at least been
>> an S9 signal.  Therefore, at this juncture, the K3 is totally not up to
>> the job when it comes to broadcast band DX hunting.  What's up here?
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From k6dgw at foothill.net  Mon Jun  8 17:36:20 2015
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 14:36:20 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3-P3 SSB spectrum
In-Reply-To: <5575E275.500@subich.com>
References: <55749C4B.2060606@foothill.net>,
	<5574B072.6020507@subich.com>	<BAY173-W324AF01248F3F3D42F5EB3BFBF0@phx.gbl>
	<5575E275.500@subich.com>
Message-ID: <55760AD4.9020804@foothill.net>

Exactly what I intended to say!  And Joe did it without waving his arms. 
:-) Thanks.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org

On 6/8/2015 11:44 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
>  > He said my signal was very clean and asked me to crank up my Mic gain
>  > to the max which I reluctantly did for a short transmission. He said
>  > it stayed clean with no splatter.  Can that be?
>
> The K3 ALC is *very* effective.  It does not rely on over driving the
> final amplifier to produce a feedback voltage to reduce gain; instead
> it keeps the drive from the DSP modulation process to the level needed
> for the selected power output based on the results of the TXG (transmit
> gain) calibration.  That means the K3 does not overdrive the transmit
> IF stages, the low power (driver) amplifier or the KPA3 no matter how
> high you turn the mic gain or the compression level.
>
> Yes, the excess compression/mic gain can cause distortion in the DSP
> modulator but *will not* generate excess bandwidth.  Further, since
> the DSP generated transmit signal goes through the 2.7 or 2.8 KHz
> filter before passing through the transmit IF, any spatter if further
> reduced and - more importantly - no more is generated in the rest of
> the transmit chain because it is run strictly below clipping level at
> all stages (unless there is a *device failure* in the LPA or KPA3).
>
> Every other transceiver (except, perhaps the Flex 6000 series and
> ANAN) uses a closed loop ALC which is susceptible to distortion from
> both overshoot and misalignment of individual stage gains.  In the
> days of tube type transmitters this was not the issue it is now since
> tubes had a relatively "soft" clipping point - the transition from
> gain compression to hard clipping occurred over a large change in
> input levels - such that ALC feedback (typically grid current in the
> final amplifiers) started well before the tubes saturated.  However,
> with most transistors and FETs the change in input drive necessary
> to move from the 1 dB compression point to saturation is very small
> (as little as 1 dB or 20% increase in drive) and that can occur in
> any of several places (IF, driver, final).
>
> As soon as any single stage is driven even close to saturation the
> signal goes to crap - one need only look at some of the "big signals"
> on the band with a good SDR or the P3 to see many that look like
> AM signals with no carrier due to the amount of IMD that appears in
> the "other sideband".
>
>  > I thought any radio would splatter if over-driven.
>
> To review ... the K3's ALC circuits assure that none of the "post
> filter" stages are ever over-driven.  While the in-band audio can
> become badly distorted through a combination of excess drive to the
> DSP (high mic gain) and excess clipping/compression, once the DSP
> and IF filter have set the transmit bandwidth, the ALC *prevents*
> overdrive and assures that the frequency conversion and amplification
> processes do not allow the signal to become excessively wide.
>
> 73,
>
>     ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 2015-06-08 1:56 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote:
>> Just a comment somewhat related to this thread.  Not long ago, a ham
>> with an SDR set-up was comparing signals in a round-table for proper
>> bandwidth.
>>
>> He said my signal was very clean and asked me to crank up my Mic gain
>> to the max which I reluctantly did for a short transmission. He said
>> it stayed clean with no splatter.  Can that be? I thought any radio
>> would splatter if over-driven.
>>
>> For me, seeing is believing.    Dick, n0ce
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 16:58:26 -0400 From: lists at subich.com To:
>>> elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3-P3 SSB
>>> spectrum
>>>
>>>
>>> The TX Monitor is a time domain display - not a frequency domain
>>> display.  If you want to see the frequency domain display of your
>>> own signal, temporarily disconnect the RS-232 cable between the two
>>> (or connect another SDR to a directional coupler in the antenna
>>> line).
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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From chip.pardini at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jun  8 17:46:20 2015
From: chip.pardini at sbcglobal.net (Chip  Pardini)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 14:46:20 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] FS- KXV3 $56.00 Shipped
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KXV3 for the K3  $65.00 shipped USPS Priority mail USA only.

 

The KXV3 provides an RX Ant. input, IF Out for the P3 and Xverter Interface
for K3 radios. 

 

Contact me direct W6MY at arrl.net

 


From rask1553 at bellsouth.net  Mon Jun  8 19:35:35 2015
From: rask1553 at bellsouth.net (Michael Raskin)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 19:35:35 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Fred Cady Book - K3
Message-ID: <5D61E4A7194D4BC9B582032966747998@MRPC>

This is the Second Edition, and the book is like new with no folds, creases, or markings.  $30, which includes free shipping CONUS.

Mike, W4UM

From lists at subich.com  Mon Jun  8 19:44:53 2015
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 19:44:53 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re:  K3-P3 SSB spectrum
In-Reply-To: <5576063F.8090803@foothill.net>
References: <557605F0.5000107@foothill.net> <5576063F.8090803@foothill.net>
Message-ID: <557628F5.5010109@subich.com>


> The internal power control loop then measures the power level of the
> RF being made and adjusts it to meet the requested level.

There is *no "power control loop"* in the K3 - that is the difference
between the K3/K3S and traditional (YaeComWoood) transceivers.  When
you (or the factory) performs the TX Gain calibration, the rig learns
how much (digital) gain is required in the DSP stage to drive the LPA
(5W setting) and the KPA3 (50W setting) to reach the desired power
level.

Since the transmit chain of the K3/K3S is linear (unlike YaeComWood),
when you request 100W instead of 50W the controller knows to increase
the voltage output of the DSP by a factor of 4 (3dB) while if you
request 20W the output of the DSP will be reduced by 4 dB (20/50 W =
-3.98 dB).

Because there is no "power control loop" the K3/K3S does not suffer
from overshoot, ALC induced distortions, IF clipping, PA over-drive,
etc. that plague traditional solid state transceivers.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-06-08 5:16 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
> I think understand this but then of course I thought I understood
> Economics 101 in college which turned out to be seriously untrue ...
>
> Turning the MIC GAIN way up on say an HT-37 increased the drive to the
> PA and eventually saturated it, creating havoc on the band.
>
> The K3 does not control power with the MIC GAIN.  The PWR control sets a
> "requested" power output.  The internal power control loop then measures
> the power level of the RF being made and adjusts it to meet the
> requested level.
>
> On SSB [and AFSK/DATA A] the MIC GAIN needs to be high enough so that
> the power control loop can meet its target power,  That's the first 4
> bars of the ALC meter.  Anything higher than that just lowers the system
> gain til the target power is met.  Or something like that [while waving
> arms]...
>
> I would imagine that turning the MIC GAIN way up would get a lot of
> extraneous room noise onto your signal.  I don't get on SSB all that
> often, but mine is set for 4 bars with the 5th just flickering on peaks,
> and 10 dB compression on peaks.  Other people seem to like it when I
> talk to them.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
> - www.cqp.org
>
> PS: There was never any doubt that I did *not* understand O'chem.
>
>
> On 6/8/2015 10:56 AM, Richard Fjeld wrote:
>> Just a comment somewhat related to this thread.  Not long ago, a ham
>> with an SDR set-up was comparing signals in a round-table for proper
>> bandwidth.
>>
>> He said my signal was very clean and asked me to crank up my Mic gain
>> to the max which I reluctantly did for a short transmission. He said
>> it stayed clean with no splatter.  Can that be? I thought any radio
>> would splatter if over-driven.
>>
>> For me, seeing is believing.    Dick, n0ce
>>
>>> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 16:58:26 -0400 From: lists at subich.com To:
>>> elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3-P3 SSB
>>> spectrum
>>>
>>>
>>> The TX Monitor is a time domain display - not a frequency domain
>>> display.  If you want to see the frequency domain display of your
>>> own signal, temporarily disconnect the RS-232 cable between the two
>>> (or connect another SDR to a directional coupler in the antenna
>>> line).
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> ... Joe, W4TV
>
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From km4ik.ian at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 19:57:29 2015
From: km4ik.ian at gmail.com (Ian - Ham)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 19:57:29 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Results - June 7
Message-ID: <082d01d0a246$e13016e0$a39044a0$@gmail.com>

Conditions were fair to moderate for yesterday's net. Ian, KM4IK,
substituted for Phil, NS7P, as net control. We had the following 22
check-ins:

 

W5TTF  Charlie  TX           K3           4016

N6JW    John      CA          K3           936

KN5L      John      TX           K3           4448

K6CG     Dick        CA          K3           3697

WB9JNZ               Dan        IL             K3           4017

AE6JV    Bill          CA          K3           6296

WB5JJA Ray         OK          K3           7877

KF7JZH/QRP       Ron        ID            KX3        2262

W4RKS  Jim         TX           K3           3618

KF5IMA                Bruce    MS         K2           3575

W7QHD                Curt       AZ           K2           1538

WV5I     Dwayne               TX           K3           5287

W7HD/QRP         Ron        AZ           KX3        6966

K6WDE/KH6       Dave      HI            KX3        4599

W0FM   Terry     MO        K3           474

W4DML                Doug     TN          K3           6433

WB7SDE               Eric         WA         K3           8312

VE7EAR                Al            BC           KX3        3158

KX5AB   Tony      TX           TS-590

WW4JF John      TN          K3           6185

KC9ILF   Kent      IL             K2           6896

KM4IK   Ian          GA          K3           281

K7BRR   Bill          OR          K3           5545

 

Thanks to everyone who checked in. See you all next week!

 

73 de,

 

--Ian

Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik.ian at gmail.com <mailto:km4ik.ian at gmail.com> 

10-10 #74624, North Georgia Chapter #2038

PODXS 070 #1962
K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468

 



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From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Mon Jun  8 21:28:13 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 21:28:13 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re:  K3-P3 SSB spectrum
In-Reply-To: <557628F5.5010109@subich.com>
References: <557605F0.5000107@foothill.net> <5576063F.8090803@foothill.net>
	<557628F5.5010109@subich.com>
Message-ID: <5576412D.3040700@embarqmail.com>

Joe,

I disagree with you, but it may be only in semantics - there *must* be a 
control loop to obtain proper power control.  How that is implemented is 
different in the K2, K3, and KX3 as compared with other transceivers 
which only provide a knob to control the drive level and then depend on 
"ALC" which in their definition is detection of overload to reduce the 
drive level.

The K2, K3, KX3 does use a *closed* control loop for power control. The 
actual power output is compared with the power requested by the Power 
Knob, and the drive is adjusted by the MCU to make the two match.  The 
loop damping is set to minimize overshoot while also minimizing the 
oscillation of the control loop.  Ideally, that power control loop will 
be 'critically damped' which will result in no overshoot and no loop 
oscillation.  The K3 achieves that critically damped condition in all 
tests that I have done.

Yes, this enters into control loop theory, and the way the K2, K3, KX3 
control power is unlike that seen in other amateur transceivers.  Other 
transceivers depend on detecting an overload condition (ALC) and as a 
result reduce the drive level.  The Elecraft transceivers do it differently.
The K2, K3, KX3 start at a lower power level (after a band change or 
power level change) and ramp up to the requested level until they are equal.
The "downside" is that it takes some RF (a dit time or two, or a few SSB 
sylables) for the K3 to come up to the requested power.  The 'upside' is 
that it is done with no overshoot and does not depend on detection that 
some stage is being overdriven.
The actual output power is detected by the wattmeter which is right at 
the output.  That information is fed back to the MCU where it is 
compared with the requested power and the MCU alters the drive as 
required to make the two match.

That is why some operators have trouble with not providing adequate 
audio drive for digital modes.  If the audio level is too low, the drive 
will be ramped up to (hopefully) provide the requested power output, and 
that can result in "power hunting".  The "conventional" wisdom given on 
the internet for soundcard digital modes which is to run the power 
control of the transceiver at max and use the audio drive to control the 
power output does not work with Elecraft transceivers.  One must first 
set the audio level correctly (and then leave it alone) and adjust the 
power level with the power request knob.  Leave that "conventional" 
wisdom to other transceivers (where it does work well), but do not use 
it with your Elecraft gear.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/8/2015 7:44 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
>> The internal power control loop then measures the power level of the
>> RF being made and adjusts it to meet the requested level.
>
> There is *no "power control loop"* in the K3 - that is the difference
> between the K3/K3S and traditional (YaeComWoood) transceivers. When
> you (or the factory) performs the TX Gain calibration, the rig learns
> how much (digital) gain is required in the DSP stage to drive the LPA
> (5W setting) and the KPA3 (50W setting) to reach the desired power
> level.
>
> Since the transmit chain of the K3/K3S is linear (unlike YaeComWood),
> when you request 100W instead of 50W the controller knows to increase
> the voltage output of the DSP by a factor of 4 (3dB) while if you
> request 20W the output of the DSP will be reduced by 4 dB (20/50 W =
> -3.98 dB).
>
> Because there is no "power control loop" the K3/K3S does not suffer
> from overshoot, ALC induced distortions, IF clipping, PA over-drive,
> etc. that plague traditional solid state transceivers.
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV


From n6kr at elecraft.com  Mon Jun  8 21:59:16 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 18:59:16 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day tips from Elecraft
In-Reply-To: <ml5g4k+1n2p37o@YahooGroups.com>
References: <ml5g4k+1n2p37o@YahooGroups.com>
Message-ID: <7BBEF94E-7C2A-4B45-A528-A848A9065B91@elecraft.com>

Kelly's posting reminded me to reprise our annual field-day tips. See below. 

Like Kelly, I've always looked forward to FD. I first experienced it at age 12, in the company of grizzled veteran OT's who really took it seriously. You know the type: a guy who can install a PL-259 connector on a piece of RG8 using nothing but his teeth and a mini acetylene torch, at night, in the rain.

Fortunately these tips require no such heroics. 

73,
Wayne
N6KR

* * *

Here are our annual tips for getting the most out of your Elecraft rig at field day:

1. BATTERY OPERATION: To conserve battery power, use 5.0 watts or less when running from a 12-V source, and 3.0 watts or less when running from an 8-10 V source (including internal batteries). KX3-specific:  The KX3 automatically switches the power amplifier to a more efficient setting based on the mode, supply voltage, and power setting. You can tell that power-saving mode is in effect by a decimal point after the 'W' in the power value (e.g., "5.0 W."). 

To reduce supply current in receive mode, use headphones rather than the internal speaker, and if lighting conditions permit, turn off the LCD backlight (MENU:BKLIGHT). 

2. ANTENNA SPACING: If you're using more than one transmitter, try to keep the antennas as far apart as possible, and/or perpendicular to each other. This is a good practice with all FD stations, because it can prevent receiver de-sensing and intermodulation distortion. If two stations unavoidably have their antennas in each other's near fields, you can dig into a pretty deep bag of tricks, including reducing preamp gain, turning on the attenuator, or (in the case of the KX3) setting MENU:RX SHFT to 8.0 rather than NOR. All of these settings are per-band.

3. OSCILLATOR ISOLATION: The KX3, like other radios with a quadrature direct-conversion architecture, uses a VFO (local oscillator) running at or very close to the operating frequency. If you have another radio on the same band as the KX3, and the antennas are close together, the other radio may be able to hear the KX3's oscillator when they're both tuned to the same frequency. 

To prevent this, the KX3 includes an isolation amplifier that keeps the oscillator from radiating back through the mixer. Normally this amplifier is turned off to save about 15 mA of receive-mode current drain. To turn on the isolation amp, set MENU:RX ISO to ON. This has no effect on performance.

Have fun!



On Jun 8, 2015, at 6:39 PM, "wb0wqs at yahoo.com [KX3]" <KX3 at yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> 
> Hello all,
> 
> The week end is coming up when it is time for the KX3 to shine. This is the kind of operation I bought the KX3 for. My plans for field day 2015 is to operate 5 watts on battery power from a cabin overlooking Table-rock lake, Eureka Springs Arkansas.  Operating field day with 5 watts can be challenging and takes a bit of patience. 
> 
>      My plans so far to use the 5 watts into a 20 meter delta loop that doubles as a 70 ft center-fed dipole with twin lead with a jumper removed. My 31 ft fiberglass pole will support the antenna.
> 
>      When I was a kid, field day was always an exciting event for me that I looked forward to and little has changed after 40 years of hamming. Would like to encourage all KX3 owners to get out and use this engineering marvel June 27th and 28th. Even if you set up at your picnic table at home or rent a cabin in the woods. Would like to hear about your field day plans with the KX3 for field day. 2 years ago I used the KX3 and a Nor-cal center fed with speaker wire.  Struggled and worked hard for 100 qsos.  Last year I used a 88 fr center fed in the trees and did much better.  What are your Field Day 2015 plans?  
> 
> 
> 
> Kelly Ellison - WB0WQS
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From johnn1jm at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 23:22:12 2015
From: johnn1jm at gmail.com (John_N1JM)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 20:22:12 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] FS: KPA500
Message-ID: <1433820132178-7603838.post@n2.nabble.com>

KPA500-K #594 with aux cable, excellent condition $1795, USPS MO or PayPal
plus fees, Phoenix, AZ delivery only. No trades.

73, John N1JM



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From mrudolph at therabbi.com  Mon Jun  8 23:59:02 2015
From: mrudolph at therabbi.com (Michael Rudolph)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 23:59:02 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
Message-ID: <201506090359.t593x036039571@atl4mhob16.myregisteredsite.com>

I live in the Washington DC area and am willing to drive  to anyone's location who can demonstrate how to hook up and use my KX3 for psk31 and CW. 

I would like to use my WINBOOK tablet instead of a laptop if possible.  It has a USB port but no mic input.  I succeeded in connecting the KX3 to the tablet but that is as far as I have gotten except that I can send code via the utility program and decode CW (albeit very badly) via Ham Radio Deluxe.

Michael

Michael Rudolph
N3IRT

From david at g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk  Tue Jun  9 05:08:10 2015
From: david at g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk (David Pratt)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 10:08:10 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
In-Reply-To: <201506090359.t593x036039571@atl4mhob16.myregisteredsite.com>
References: <201506090359.t593x036039571@atl4mhob16.myregisteredsite.com>
Message-ID: <5576ACFA.5010002@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk>

Michael - You don't need a computer to send and decode PSK31 and CW. 
Provision for decoding and sending PSK31 and CW are already built into 
the KX3 firmware. All you need to do is to plug a paddle into your KX3 
and set up the menu accordingly and you're away.

73 de David G4DMP

On 09/06/2015 04:59, Michael Rudolph wrote:
> I live in the Washington DC area and am willing to drive  to anyone's location who can demonstrate how to hook up and use my KX3 for psk31 and CW.
>
> I would like to use my WINBOOK tablet instead of a laptop if possible.  It has a USB port but no mic input.  I succeeded in connecting the KX3 to the tablet but that is as far as I have gotten except that I can send code via the utility program and decode CW (albeit very badly) via Ham Radio Deluxe.

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From mrudolph at therabbi.com  Tue Jun  9 07:04:10 2015
From: mrudolph at therabbi.com (Michael Rudolph)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 07:04:10 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
In-Reply-To: <5576ACFA.5010002@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk>
References: <201506090359.t593x036039571@atl4mhob16.myregisteredsite.com>
	<5576ACFA.5010002@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk>
Message-ID: <034c01d0a2a4$03972e00$0ac58a00$@therabbi.com>

David - I knew that the possibility existed, but believe that without a
computer the incoming message simply scrolls and cannot be saved.  Anyway, I
do not know how to set that up either.  I looked in the User's Guide and the
Cady book, and did not find step-by-step instructions that I could follow.
So here are my follow-up questions:

1. Can you or someone provide me with the exact menu settings and procedure
for decoding CW and PSK31 entirely from the KX3?

2. I believe I still need local help where I can actually see someone
operating in PSK31 using a computer and Ham Radio Deluxe, so is there anyone
within 100 miles of Washington DC that can invite me?

73,
Michael N3IRT

-----Original Message-----
From: David Pratt [mailto:david at g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 5:08 AM
To: Michael Rudolph; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Need local help

Michael - You don't need a computer to send and decode PSK31 and CW. 
Provision for decoding and sending PSK31 and CW are already built into the
KX3 firmware. All you need to do is to plug a paddle into your KX3 and set
up the menu accordingly and you're away.

73 de David G4DMP

On 09/06/2015 04:59, Michael Rudolph wrote:
> I live in the Washington DC area and am willing to drive  to anyone's
location who can demonstrate how to hook up and use my KX3 for psk31 and CW.
>
> I would like to use my WINBOOK tablet instead of a laptop if possible.  It
has a USB port but no mic input.  I succeeded in connecting the KX3 to the
tablet but that is as far as I have gotten except that I can send code via
the utility program and decode CW (albeit very badly) via Ham Radio Deluxe.

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From k9ztv at socket.net  Tue Jun  9 07:27:32 2015
From: k9ztv at socket.net (K9ZTV)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 06:27:32 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 for Broadcast Band DX
In-Reply-To: <5575E728.8040007@n8vz.com>
References: <5575E728.8040007@n8vz.com>
Message-ID: <460B75E7-D8C1-4B78-A9E9-EA353D2AEE18@socket.net>

For me it was a brand-new Zenith Royal 500 "Long Distance" 7-transistor radio in burgundy with vernier tuning, leather carrying case, and earphone.

Around midnight in the summer of 1958 I lay, a 13-year old boy in Illinois, listening to KDKA in Pittsburgh broadcast live updates on a commercial piston aircraft circling the airport with landing problems.  High drama for over an hour with anxiety clearly evident in the reporter's voice.  I eventually fell asleep (radio on, earphone in place) and learned the next day the plane had landed safely.  Rare excitement on the airwaves at the time and just one of several broadcast-band adventures which led in due course 
to a Novice license soon thereafter.

Still have the Royal 500, too. 

73,

Kent  K9ZTV


> On Jun 8, 2015, at 2:04 PM, Carl J?n Denbow <carl at n8vz.com> wrote:
> 
> I sometimes like to do a little Broadcast Band DX, takes me back to my high schools days with my GE transistor radio under the pillow.  I think some of you know the story. ;-)  

From kg9hfrank at gmail.com  Tue Jun  9 07:52:42 2015
From: kg9hfrank at gmail.com (kg9hfrank at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 06:52:42 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
In-Reply-To: <034c01d0a2a4$03972e00$0ac58a00$@therabbi.com>
References: <201506090359.t593x036039571@atl4mhob16.myregisteredsite.com>
	<5576ACFA.5010002@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk>
	<034c01d0a2a4$03972e00$0ac58a00$@therabbi.com>
Message-ID: <FEA4745C-F51A-42B5-B595-AB02E5D6B189@gmail.com>

Maybe via Skype anyone?
Frank KG9H

> On Jun 9, 2015, at 6:04 AM, Michael Rudolph <mrudolph at therabbi.com> wrote:
> 
> David - I knew that the possibility existed, but believe that without a
> computer the incoming message simply scrolls and cannot be saved.  Anyway, I
> do not know how to set that up either.  I looked in the User's Guide and the
> Cady book, and did not find step-by-step instructions that I could follow.
> So here are my follow-up questions:
> 
> 1. Can you or someone provide me with the exact menu settings and procedure
> for decoding CW and PSK31 entirely from the KX3?
> 
> 2. I believe I still need local help where I can actually see someone
> operating in PSK31 using a computer and Ham Radio Deluxe, so is there anyone
> within 100 miles of Washington DC that can invite me?
> 
> 73,
> Michael N3IRT
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Pratt [mailto:david at g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 5:08 AM
> To: Michael Rudolph; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Need local help
> 
> Michael - You don't need a computer to send and decode PSK31 and CW. 
> Provision for decoding and sending PSK31 and CW are already built into the
> KX3 firmware. All you need to do is to plug a paddle into your KX3 and set
> up the menu accordingly and you're away.
> 
> 73 de David G4DMP
> 
> On 09/06/2015 04:59, Michael Rudolph wrote:
>> I live in the Washington DC area and am willing to drive  to anyone's
> location who can demonstrate how to hook up and use my KX3 for psk31 and CW.
>> 
>> I would like to use my WINBOOK tablet instead of a laptop if possible.  It
> has a USB port but no mic input.  I succeeded in connecting the KX3 to the
> tablet but that is as far as I have gotten except that I can send code via
> the utility program and decode CW (albeit very badly) via Ham Radio Deluxe.
> 
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From bob at hogbytes.com  Tue Jun  9 09:52:27 2015
From: bob at hogbytes.com (Bob N3MNT)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 06:52:27 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
In-Reply-To: <5576ACFA.5010002@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk>
References: <201506090359.t593x036039571@atl4mhob16.myregisteredsite.com>
	<5576ACFA.5010002@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk>
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If you want to use a program on the computer you need to add an interface.  I
sue and recommend this a signalink   http://www.tigertronics.com/  The have
an interface cable for the KX3 that makes the operation seamless.



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From bob at hogbytes.com  Tue Jun  9 09:53:30 2015
From: bob at hogbytes.com (Bob N3MNT)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 06:53:30 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
In-Reply-To: <5576ACFA.5010002@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk>
References: <201506090359.t593x036039571@atl4mhob16.myregisteredsite.com>
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Darn old brain  make that use not sue.




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From wunder at wunderwood.org  Tue Jun  9 10:40:50 2015
From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 07:40:50 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
In-Reply-To: <1433857947832-7603841.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <201506090359.t593x036039571@atl4mhob16.myregisteredsite.com>
	<5576ACFA.5010002@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk>
	<1433857947832-7603841.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <AAFD98FC-F4A8-4CC4-BFAC-063231233AAB@wunderwood.org>

You do not need an interface. If you do want outboard USB audio, you can do a lot better than Tigertronics for less money. But for most uses, the audio built into the computer is just fine.

More detail here:

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/USB_Interfaces.pdf

wunder
K6WRU
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

On Jun 9, 2015, at 6:52 AM, Bob N3MNT <bob at hogbytes.com> wrote:

> If you want to use a program on the computer you need to add an interface.  I
> sue and recommend this a signalink   http://www.tigertronics.com/  The have
> an interface cable for the KX3 that makes the operation seamless.
> 
> 
> 
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From w6sx at arrl.net  Tue Jun  9 11:42:33 2015
From: w6sx at arrl.net (Hank Garretson)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 08:42:33 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
In-Reply-To: <1433857947832-7603841.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <201506090359.t593x036039571@atl4mhob16.myregisteredsite.com>
	<5576ACFA.5010002@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk>
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Message-ID: <CABD27UkAYUHXTEPv6ot9J37t7hJ27ibHLtqhmZp0zE4e=uG94A@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 6:52 AM, Bob N3MNT <bob at hogbytes.com> wrote:

If you want to use a program on the computer you need to add an interface.
> I
> use and recommend this a signalink   http://www.tigertronics.com/  The
> have
> an interface cable for the KX3 that makes the operation seamless.
>

You do not need an interface. All you need is audio cables between your
computer soundcard and rig.

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/HamInterfacing.pdf

Interfaces are sometimes plug and play and an easy solution. Other times
they are an exasperating pain to get working.

In any case I suggest trying the no-cost approach first. Audio cables are
all I've ever used.  Good for over 50,000 digital contacts since 2006.

73,

Hank, W6SX

From wunder at wunderwood.org  Tue Jun  9 11:47:47 2015
From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 08:47:47 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
In-Reply-To: <AAFD98FC-F4A8-4CC4-BFAC-063231233AAB@wunderwood.org>
References: <201506090359.t593x036039571@atl4mhob16.myregisteredsite.com>
	<5576ACFA.5010002@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk>
	<1433857947832-7603841.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<AAFD98FC-F4A8-4CC4-BFAC-063231233AAB@wunderwood.org>
Message-ID: <5E2FE39B-8171-4DAC-B3ED-D11CD437D1B4@wunderwood.org>

Oops, I missed that this computer doesn?t have a mic input (original post was not quoted).

Any old $20 USB audio dongle will probably do just as well as the Tigertronics. 

wunder
K6WRU
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

On Jun 9, 2015, at 7:40 AM, Walter Underwood <wunder at wunderwood.org> wrote:

> You do not need an interface. If you do want outboard USB audio, you can do a lot better than Tigertronics for less money. But for most uses, the audio built into the computer is just fine.
> 
> More detail here:
> 
> http://audiosystemsgroup.com/USB_Interfaces.pdf
> 
> wunder
> K6WRU
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
> 
> On Jun 9, 2015, at 6:52 AM, Bob N3MNT <bob at hogbytes.com> wrote:
> 
>> If you want to use a program on the computer you need to add an interface.  I
>> sue and recommend this a signalink   http://www.tigertronics.com/  The have
>> an interface cable for the KX3 that makes the operation seamless.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From raysills3 at verizon.net  Tue Jun  9 11:51:15 2015
From: raysills3 at verizon.net (Ray Sills)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 11:51:15 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
In-Reply-To: <AAFD98FC-F4A8-4CC4-BFAC-063231233AAB@wunderwood.org>
References: <201506090359.t593x036039571@atl4mhob16.myregisteredsite.com>
	<5576ACFA.5010002@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk>
	<1433857947832-7603841.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<AAFD98FC-F4A8-4CC4-BFAC-063231233AAB@wunderwood.org>
Message-ID: <E157D97B-9E9F-4722-B7BB-DD29827141CA@verizon.net>

I'd have to agree.  The Tigertronics unit is a simple and easy way for  
older rigs to be able to operate in digital modes.  But the Elecraft  
K3 and KX3 have a state-of-the-art DSP architecture, and all you need  
to do is connect the proper cables between the rig and your computer.
Elecraft sells cables for the job.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211

On Jun 9, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Walter Underwood wrote:

> You do not need an interface. If you do want outboard USB audio, you  
> can do a lot better than Tigertronics for less money. But for most  
> uses, the audio built into the computer is just fine.
>
> More detail here:
>
> http://audiosystemsgroup.com/USB_Interfaces.pdf
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)


From raysills3 at verizon.net  Tue Jun  9 11:53:04 2015
From: raysills3 at verizon.net (Ray Sills)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 11:53:04 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
In-Reply-To: <5E2FE39B-8171-4DAC-B3ED-D11CD437D1B4@wunderwood.org>
References: <201506090359.t593x036039571@atl4mhob16.myregisteredsite.com>
	<5576ACFA.5010002@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk>
	<1433857947832-7603841.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<AAFD98FC-F4A8-4CC4-BFAC-063231233AAB@wunderwood.org>
	<5E2FE39B-8171-4DAC-B3ED-D11CD437D1B4@wunderwood.org>
Message-ID: <14D39262-497A-4240-9B33-4A3D3A1CCC3F@verizon.net>

ARGH!  I missed that, too.  Certainly, a simple USB audio dongle can  
be found on the big retail site, or the big auction site.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211

On Jun 9, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Walter Underwood wrote:

> Oops, I missed that this computer doesn?t have a mic input (original  
> post was not quoted).
>
> Any old $20 USB audio dongle will probably do just as well as the  
> Tigertronics.
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)


From bob at hogbytes.com  Tue Jun  9 12:02:54 2015
From: bob at hogbytes.com (Bob N3MNT)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 09:02:54 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
In-Reply-To: <CABD27UkAYUHXTEPv6ot9J37t7hJ27ibHLtqhmZp0zE4e=uG94A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201506090359.t593x036039571@atl4mhob16.myregisteredsite.com>
	<5576ACFA.5010002@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk>
	<1433857947832-7603841.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<CABD27UkAYUHXTEPv6ot9J37t7hJ27ibHLtqhmZp0zE4e=uG94A@mail.gmail.com>
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OP said computer did not have an audio input.   



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From jim at jtmiller.com  Tue Jun  9 12:21:57 2015
From: jim at jtmiller.com (Jim Miller)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 12:21:57 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
In-Reply-To: <1433865774492-7603850.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <201506090359.t593x036039571@atl4mhob16.myregisteredsite.com>
	<5576ACFA.5010002@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk>
	<1433857947832-7603841.post@n2.nabble.com>
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http://audiosystemsgroup.com/USB_Interfaces.pdf

jim ab3cv

On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Bob N3MNT <bob at hogbytes.com> wrote:

> OP said computer did not have an audio input.
>
>
>
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From k3ndm at comcast.net  Tue Jun  9 12:23:56 2015
From: k3ndm at comcast.net (Barry LaZar)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 12:23:56 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
In-Reply-To: <AAFD98FC-F4A8-4CC4-BFAC-063231233AAB@wunderwood.org>
References: <201506090359.t593x036039571@atl4mhob16.myregisteredsite.com>	<5576ACFA.5010002@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk>	<1433857947832-7603841.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<AAFD98FC-F4A8-4CC4-BFAC-063231233AAB@wunderwood.org>
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Walter,
      The SignaLink not only has a built in sound card, but it also 
controls the radio's PTT function. Yes, you can use VOX, but this plays 
a little less clunky. You can also use the KX3's built in abilities, but 
using an external interface with multimode  software, allows for greater 
flexibility.

73,
Barry
K3NDM



On 6/9/2015 10:40 AM, Walter Underwood wrote:
> You do not need an interface. If you do want outboard USB audio, you can do a lot better than Tigertronics for less money. But for most uses, the audio built into the computer is just fine.
>
> More detail here:
>
> http://audiosystemsgroup.com/USB_Interfaces.pdf
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>
> On Jun 9, 2015, at 6:52 AM, Bob N3MNT <bob at hogbytes.com> wrote:
>
>> If you want to use a program on the computer you need to add an interface.  I
>> sue and recommend this a signalink   http://www.tigertronics.com/  The have
>> an interface cable for the KX3 that makes the operation seamless.
>>
>>
>>
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From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Tue Jun  9 12:35:55 2015
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 09:35:55 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
In-Reply-To: <5577131C.9050408@comcast.net>
References: <201506090359.t593x036039571@atl4mhob16.myregisteredsite.com>	<5576ACFA.5010002@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk>	<1433857947832-7603841.post@n2.nabble.com>	<AAFD98FC-F4A8-4CC4-BFAC-063231233AAB@wunderwood.org>
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On Tue,6/9/2015 9:23 AM, Barry LaZar wrote:
> The SignaLink not only has a built in sound card, but it also controls 
> the radio's PTT function. Yes, you can use VOX, but this plays a 
> little less clunky.

There is nothing "clunky" about using VOX for PTT. I've made many 
thousands of digital contacts, and I've used nothing but VOX.

The SignaLink is NOT a good sound card. See the link posted by others to 
my website for GOOD sound cards.

73, Jim K9YC

From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Tue Jun  9 13:22:46 2015
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 10:22:46 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 For Sale
Message-ID: <557720E6.1060505@audiosystemsgroup.com>

My neighbor Pat Miller, W6DRX, used to be an active contester, but has 
been inactive for several years due to health issues and a major job 
change. Pat and Sandy are moving out of their house (which they will 
rent out) to live on a sailboat that they just bought. He's selling all 
his radio gear, including an early serial number K3. He built it from a 
kit, and I opened it up to verify what was in it. It is VERY clean.

Here's what's in it, and what it would have cost if you had ordered it 
as a kit last month and built it yourself. A factory built rig would, of 
course, have cost several hundred dollars more.

                          2015 Price
K3/100 Base Rig Kit         $2,500
KXV3 Transverter I/O Kit       120
K3 ATU Kit                     320
2.7 kHz 5-pole TX Filter       incl
400 Hz 8-pole Filter           140
1.8 kHz 8-pole Filter          140
Total                        3,220
CA Tax                         258
Total w/tax                 $3,478

On the advice of K6XX, Pat is asking $2,600 for the K3 as built. He will 
accept offers without one or both of the filters. He also has an 
un-built 2nd RX kit, which is the same as what is currently being sold 
for $600. Pat is asking $400.

I posted this listing last week, and I'm really surprised that this 
hasn't been snapped up!  It's a very good deal on a very clean radio. 
Only yesterday, K4TM posted here that he had sold a similarly equipped 
radio for several hundred dollars more! If you don't like the price, 
make an offer.

73, Jim K9YC

From w6jhb at me.com  Tue Jun  9 13:23:20 2015
From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 10:23:20 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility Question: Idle Sleep
Message-ID: <B155BD0D-6ADC-483B-A013-C6063FDA8157@me.com>

I've got a K3/KAT500/KPA500 system, along with a KX3.

In the past I was able to power on the KAT500 whenever I wanted, irregardless of the power being on or off for the K3. This was useful for the occasional times I wanted to have the KX3 drive the KPA500 and the KAT500. A week or so ago I made some changes to my main antenna system and wanted to "re-train" the KAT500. So, I brought up the KAT500 Utility (v1.14.2.1 - Mac OS X) and cleared it's memories. While I had the utility up I was looking at a couple other things, as it had been a while since I'd been in this program. I noticed that in the Configuration there is a tab called "Idle Sleep". This had been unchecked, but after reading what the text said, I thought it would be good to have it turned on. Well, it appears that this has had the unwanted effect of my not being able to turn on the KAT500 unless the K3 is powered on first. Is this normal? I thought that the KAT500 needed to be powered on BEFORE the K3???

As a side note, that Idle Sleep page says "See Help and the KAT500 Serial Command Reference for more detail". Well, I opened up the Help and found very little regarding this option - pretty much a repeat of what is in the utility itself.

Jim / W6JHB



From k9fd at flex.com  Tue Jun  9 14:05:33 2015
From: k9fd at flex.com (Merv Schweigert)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 08:05:33 -1000
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 For Sale
In-Reply-To: <557720E6.1060505@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <557720E6.1060505@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <55772AED.5020403@flex.com>

Not to put a damper on things,  but you have to consider what you are 
buying in light of
the new K3S..

The same K3S today would cost 3250.00   with all the new updates.

So if you take 2600 plus a new synth board,  and new KXV3B at min for 
updates
you have 3020.    You did not list the serial number,  so if it needs 
the newer DSP
boards etc you are up to the brand new price of the K3S which has all 
updates.
Guys snapping up older K3 need to do a cost comparison and see what fits 
their
needs these days.   I have two K3 and it sure does not seem cost 
effective to me to
update these old ones when a new one would be cheaper,   in fact if you 
swap
over your filters and a module or two a new K3S is far cheaper than 
updating.
If its an "old" serial number the updates will put you well over the 
price of a new
radio.

So while its super to be able to update to what you have needs for, its 
not a good
idea if your going to try and do all the updates to an older one.
Something I have to face in light of owning 2 "older" k3..   what to do 
with them,
any way I see it I will have to take a loss when selling compared to a 
month
ago.
73 Merv K9FD/KH6


> My neighbor Pat Miller, W6DRX, used to be an active contester, but has 
> been inactive for several years due to health issues and a major job 
> change. Pat and Sandy are moving out of their house (which they will 
> rent out) to live on a sailboat that they just bought. He's selling 
> all his radio gear, including an early serial number K3. He built it 
> from a kit, and I opened it up to verify what was in it. It is VERY 
> clean.
>
> Here's what's in it, and what it would have cost if you had ordered it 
> as a kit last month and built it yourself. A factory built rig would, 
> of course, have cost several hundred dollars more.
>
>                          2015 Price
> K3/100 Base Rig Kit         $2,500
> KXV3 Transverter I/O Kit       120
> K3 ATU Kit                     320
> 2.7 kHz 5-pole TX Filter       incl
> 400 Hz 8-pole Filter           140
> 1.8 kHz 8-pole Filter          140
> Total                        3,220
> CA Tax                         258
> Total w/tax                 $3,478
>
> On the advice of K6XX, Pat is asking $2,600 for the K3 as built. He 
> will accept offers without one or both of the filters. He also has an 
> un-built 2nd RX kit, which is the same as what is currently being sold 
> for $600. Pat is asking $400.
>
> I posted this listing last week, and I'm really surprised that this 
> hasn't been snapped up!  It's a very good deal on a very clean radio. 
> Only yesterday, K4TM posted here that he had sold a similarly equipped 
> radio for several hundred dollars more! If you don't like the price, 
> make an offer.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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From la9nea at online.no  Tue Jun  9 14:12:23 2015
From: la9nea at online.no (Viggo Magnus Nilsen)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 20:12:23 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] K144XV module wanted.
Message-ID: <a36aacfc16d923499aa821ee62eb355a@online.no>

 

Hello Elecrafter's. 

Do some of you have an Elecraft K144XV module for sale ? 

73' Viggo LA9NEA 

 

From phystad at mac.com  Tue Jun  9 14:27:15 2015
From: phystad at mac.com (Phil Hystad)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 11:27:15 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] On the idea of antenna tuner products
Message-ID: <291336B2-AD68-4024-B47C-BEBA3D3ADA6C@mac.com>

My current lament:

I own the T1 tuner and have used it with several QRP rigs.  Having an external tuner like the T1 has saved me money when I bought my KX1 (not choosing the internal tuner) besides being very useful.

Every now and then, I sort of wish that a nice small package 100-watt tuner was offered by Elecraft.  Auto-tuner of course and every bit as nice as the KAT500 which I do own.  Some Elecraft people buy up to 3, maybe 4, auto-tuners from Elecraft:  K2 auto-tuner, K3 auto-tuner, KXPA100 amp optional tuner, and even the KAT500 can be included.

It would be nice.  Here I am contemplating the purchase of the KXPA100 and I am yet again faced with the question of whether to buy the internal tuner or not.  No way would I go for some other third party tuner as the price differential is no where near what it would need to be to offset the value of and benefit of the Elecraft tuner.

Yes, I probably will buy the KXAT100 tuner option but I still think a separate product of a 100 watt class auto-tuner would be a nice addition to the Elecraft store.

73, phil, K7PEH


From lists at subich.com  Tue Jun  9 15:06:18 2015
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 15:06:18 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] On the idea of antenna tuner products
In-Reply-To: <291336B2-AD68-4024-B47C-BEBA3D3ADA6C@mac.com>
References: <291336B2-AD68-4024-B47C-BEBA3D3ADA6C@mac.com>
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 > Yes, I probably will buy the KXAT100 tuner option but I still think
 > a separate product of a 100 watt class auto-tuner would be a nice
 > addition to the Elecraft store.

The "problem" is that Elecraft can not offer a stand alone tuner for
the same price (or even close to the same price) as those tuners built
into the other hardware.  The built-in tuners leverage the wattmeter,
directional coupler, processor and case (at a minimum) of the "host"
device.

Granted there is some additional cost due to higher ratings for the
toroids and capacitors in a higher power tuner but compare the price
of the KAT3A (no case, wattmeter, processor, etc.) and the KAT500
(complete) and you will get an idea of the added cost necessary to
turn one of the internal tuners into a stand-alone product.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-06-09 2:27 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
> My current lament:
>
> I own the T1 tuner and have used it with several QRP rigs.  Having an external tuner like the T1 has saved me money when I bought my KX1 (not choosing the internal tuner) besides being very useful.
>
> Every now and then, I sort of wish that a nice small package 100-watt tuner was offered by Elecraft.  Auto-tuner of course and every bit as nice as the KAT500 which I do own.  Some Elecraft people buy up to 3, maybe 4, auto-tuners from Elecraft:  K2 auto-tuner, K3 auto-tuner, KXPA100 amp optional tuner, and even the KAT500 can be included.
>
> It would be nice.  Here I am contemplating the purchase of the KXPA100 and I am yet again faced with the question of whether to buy the internal tuner or not.  No way would I go for some other third party tuner as the price differential is no where near what it would need to be to offset the value of and benefit of the Elecraft tuner.
>
> Yes, I probably will buy the KXAT100 tuner option but I still think a separate product of a 100 watt class auto-tuner would be a nice addition to the Elecraft store.
>
> 73, phil, K7PEH
>
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From lists at subich.com  Tue Jun  9 15:11:03 2015
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 15:11:03 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
In-Reply-To: <1433865774492-7603850.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <201506090359.t593x036039571@atl4mhob16.myregisteredsite.com>	<5576ACFA.5010002@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk>	<1433857947832-7603841.post@n2.nabble.com>	<CABD27UkAYUHXTEPv6ot9J37t7hJ27ibHLtqhmZp0zE4e=uG94A@mail.gmail.com>
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On 2015-06-09 12:02 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote:
> OP said computer did not have an audio input.

He's still better off with an external USB sound card of reasonable
quality and a pair of audio cables than using the Tigertronix product
of dubious quality and well documented poor design.  A simple USB sound
card of reasonable quality will cost 1/3 to 1/2 as much as the inferior
"amateur" product.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV

From k3ndm at comcast.net  Tue Jun  9 15:43:40 2015
From: k3ndm at comcast.net (Barry LaZar)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 15:43:40 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
In-Reply-To: <557715EB.4040309@audiosystemsgroup.com>
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	<557715EB.4040309@audiosystemsgroup.com>
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Jim,
      The SignaLink sound card is quite adequate for running digital 
modes on HF, and it appears to be better than the one in my Toshiba 
Satellite laptop. However, I do use a professional level USB card for my 
panadapter which is far more demanding. And, PTT is less clunky if 
you're not knowledgeable enough  to set VOX properly.

     There are some secondary, subtle, issues with running using the 
built in software for RTTY, CW, and PSK on the KX3. Those are you can't 
run the other modes should you desire and you can't see multiple streams 
of data simultaneously which is very useful if you looking for picking 
up awards.

     Using an external sound card frees up your computer sound card for 
other things while you demod/decode digital signals. For the cost of a 
SignaLink USB, or equivalent for about $100, you open up a layer or two 
of additional flexibility. My interface is permanently in my KX3 audio 
line with my amplified speakers coming off the Aux. on the back of the 
I/F. I can switch modes by just invoking  data a mode on the KX3 and 
replacing my mic with the cable from my interface.

     I interpret  what you are saying as being heavily biased toward 
operating on the digital modes. That's OK, but I use CW and phone as 
much if not more. So, I designed my station for ease of mode switching 
and maximum performance.

Vy 73,
Barry
K3NDM

On 6/9/2015 12:35 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> On Tue,6/9/2015 9:23 AM, Barry LaZar wrote:
>> The SignaLink not only has a built in sound card, but it also 
>> controls the radio's PTT function. Yes, you can use VOX, but this 
>> plays a little less clunky.
>
> There is nothing "clunky" about using VOX for PTT. I've made many 
> thousands of digital contacts, and I've used nothing but VOX.
>
> The SignaLink is NOT a good sound card. See the link posted by others 
> to my website for GOOD sound cards.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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From k3ndm at comcast.net  Tue Jun  9 15:59:11 2015
From: k3ndm at comcast.net (Barry LaZar)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 15:59:11 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
In-Reply-To: <55773A47.3030104@subich.com>
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Joe,
     You bring an interesting point of view. I've been using a SignaLink 
USB for at least 3-4 years. I haven't had an issue with it except not 
enough time to play. And, I can't blame the manufacturer for that.

     I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these 
discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do digital 
signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram. However, I would never 
use a card in my laptop or my I/F for some of the heavier lifting here 
in my shack where I need 96KHz sample rates or better with 24 bit 
digitizing. But for just hook it up, set the levels and go, an interface 
with a built in sound card is not a bad way to go. In many cases, it is 
just easier to do and it allows for more flexibility.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

On 6/9/2015 3:11 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
> On 2015-06-09 12:02 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote:
>> OP said computer did not have an audio input.
>
> He's still better off with an external USB sound card of reasonable
> quality and a pair of audio cables than using the Tigertronix product
> of dubious quality and well documented poor design.  A simple USB sound
> card of reasonable quality will cost 1/3 to 1/2 as much as the inferior
> "amateur" product.
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
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From h3cary at gmail.com  Tue Jun  9 16:04:47 2015
From: h3cary at gmail.com (H. Cary)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 16:04:47 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Panadapter w/ SVGA - FOR SALE
Message-ID: <E1BE3A3A-B6BB-4E0E-89DA-6796CF0B6FCA@gmail.com>

Elecraft P3 Panadapter (serial #888) with P3-SVGA for large screen monitor FOR SALE,
Lightly used.  $750 shipped CONUS - new this would cost $980 plus shipping.
Contact direct, please.
73,
H. Cary, K4TM
Lynchburg VA

Sent from my iPad

From h3cary at gmail.com  Tue Jun  9 16:15:42 2015
From: h3cary at gmail.com (H. Cary)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 16:15:42 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-500 FOR SALE
Message-ID: <FA549DD0-B481-43D3-8A5B-32E4CC3DDBF8@gmail.com>

For Sale: Elecraft KPA-500, serial # 0698, solid state linear amplifier, covers 160-6 meters.
Factory upgraded w/ T/R circuit plus 12-meter low pass filter mod on June 1, 2015.
Amplifier "meets or exceeds all factory specifications."
$1750 shipped CONUS.  Please contact direct: h3cary at gmail.com
Cary, K4TM
Lynchburg VA
434-660-8299


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From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Tue Jun  9 16:19:37 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 16:19:37 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
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Yes, the SignaLink is 'adequate', but if you care to reduce the received 
noise floor and copy weaker digital signals, you will want something better.

Many of the software digital mode applications provide a means to 
control transmit by means of a control command to the transceiver.
That eliminates the need for a hardwired PTT connection.  VOX is not 
difficult to set up for data modes because the audio stream is a steady 
level and not contaminated with room noise like you would find with 
using a microphone for voice modes.
The SignaLink uses 'sort of' a simple VOX circuit to produce its PTT 
output, so why not just use the transceiver VOX instead, it is there in 
the KX3.

While many use the SignaLink for digital modes, all I can say is that 
"it works".  A USB external soundcard works much better and for only 
about half the cost.
Of course, you will be using only the left channel of the soundcard, but 
that soundcard can be used for other purposes.  The SignaLink has only 
one channel, and cannot be used as a normal soundcard with stereo channels.

On 6/9/2015 3:43 PM, Barry LaZar wrote:
> Jim,
>      The SignaLink sound card is quite adequate for running digital 
> modes on HF, and it appears to be better than the one in my Toshiba 
> Satellite laptop. However, I do use a professional level USB card for 
> my panadapter which is far more demanding. And, PTT is less clunky if 
> you're not knowledgeable enough  to set VOX properly.
>


From frantz at pwpconsult.com  Tue Jun  9 16:53:55 2015
From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz)
Date: Tue,  9 Jun 2015 13:53:55 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
In-Reply-To: <5E2FE39B-8171-4DAC-B3ED-D11CD437D1B4@wunderwood.org>
Message-ID: <r422Ps-1075i-1FBC9CDB0EE0464F8DBA9505D791E90D@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>

I have used three interfaces for digital. Note that my MacBook 
Pro can't listen and talk over its audio connector at the same time.

The first interface I used was a SignaLink. It was easy to set 
up. It works with the stock drivers on both MacOS and Linux. 
Making cables for it was easy. It has an internal VOX so you can 
key the transmitter without turning the radio's VOX on. (Both 
the K3 and the KX3 have only one VOX setting for both voice 
modes and digital. I use push-to-talk for voice modes so random 
shack noise doesn't trigger the transmitter. Remembering to 
switch it on and off is a PITA since I sometimes change modes 
several times in an evening.)

I have a Tascam US-122 mkII interface. It does the best job. 
With the SignaLink I had to compromise between enough 
sensitivity for weak PSK stations and enough head room for the 
strong ones. I was always riding the RF volume control. The 
Tascam has enough dynamic range. However, it requires a special 
driver, so I can't use it on my Linux box. Works fine with MacOS 
and will be the interface I use for field day this year.

I have a $3-$5 interface that I added to an Amazon order on 
impulse. I have never gotten it to work well with the KX3. I 
think I need to build an attenuator. It works with the stock 
drivers on MacOS and Linux.

On 6/9/15 at 8:47 AM, wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) wrote:

>Any old $20 USB audio dongle will probably do just as well as the Tigertronics.

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From lists at subich.com  Tue Jun  9 17:10:13 2015
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 17:10:13 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
In-Reply-To: <5577458F.7030907@comcast.net>
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> I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these
> discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do
> digital signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram.

There are a significant number of reports concerning the issues with
Signalink on-line if one bothers to look.  In general they relate to
improper filtering of the USB +5V power, lack of a regulator for the
V/2 reference to the sound codec (analog to digital converter), lack
of proper bypassing of noise from the various chips, requirement that
the digital to analog converter be run at too high a level in order
for the "VOX" to trigger reliably, etc.

In general, this means Signalink loses 15 dB or more of signal to
noise ratio (which is a big deal with modes like JT65 and JT9 on HF)
on the receive side and is much more "dirty" (often with multiple
audio signals) on transmit.

You're correct that it does not take much of a sound card to decode
some signals.  However, the Signalink "sound card" contains most of
the same components as the generic USB sound products that perform
much better - yet Signalink costs two to three times as much.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-06-09 3:59 PM, Barry LaZar wrote:
> Joe,
>      You bring an interesting point of view. I've been using a SignaLink
> USB for at least 3-4 years. I haven't had an issue with it except not
> enough time to play. And, I can't blame the manufacturer for that.
>
>      I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these
> discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do digital
> signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram. However, I would never
> use a card in my laptop or my I/F for some of the heavier lifting here
> in my shack where I need 96KHz sample rates or better with 24 bit
> digitizing. But for just hook it up, set the levels and go, an interface
> with a built in sound card is not a bad way to go. In many cases, it is
> just easier to do and it allows for more flexibility.
>
> 73,
> Barry
> K3NDM
>
> On 6/9/2015 3:11 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>
>> On 2015-06-09 12:02 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote:
>>> OP said computer did not have an audio input.
>>
>> He's still better off with an external USB sound card of reasonable
>> quality and a pair of audio cables than using the Tigertronix product
>> of dubious quality and well documented poor design.  A simple USB sound
>> card of reasonable quality will cost 1/3 to 1/2 as much as the inferior
>> "amateur" product.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>>    ... Joe, W4TV
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> Elecraft mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
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From davidahrendts at me.com  Tue Jun  9 17:16:31 2015
From: davidahrendts at me.com (David Ahrendts)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 14:16:31 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
In-Reply-To: <55775635.2010300@subich.com>
References: <201506090359.t593x036039571@atl4mhob16.myregisteredsite.com>
	<5576ACFA.5010002@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk>
	<1433857947832-7603841.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<CABD27UkAYUHXTEPv6ot9J37t7hJ27ibHLtqhmZp0zE4e=uG94A@mail.gmail.com>
	<1433865774492-7603850.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<55773A47.3030104@subich.com>
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Message-ID: <EE9820EE-877A-4D61-822C-B849BF3087D1@me.com>

Gentlemen, suggest some alternatives to the SignalLink USB for digital. Would like to research.

David A., KC0XT

> On Jun 9, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists at subich.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these
>> discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do
>> digital signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram.
> 
> There are a significant number of reports concerning the issues with
> Signalink on-line if one bothers to look.  In general they relate to
> improper filtering of the USB +5V power, lack of a regulator for the
> V/2 reference to the sound codec (analog to digital converter), lack
> of proper bypassing of noise from the various chips, requirement that
> the digital to analog converter be run at too high a level in order
> for the "VOX" to trigger reliably, etc.
> 
> In general, this means Signalink loses 15 dB or more of signal to
> noise ratio (which is a big deal with modes like JT65 and JT9 on HF)
> on the receive side and is much more "dirty" (often with multiple
> audio signals) on transmit.
> 
> You're correct that it does not take much of a sound card to decode
> some signals.  However, the Signalink "sound card" contains most of
> the same components as the generic USB sound products that perform
> much better - yet Signalink costs two to three times as much.
> 
> 73,
> 
>   ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
> On 2015-06-09 3:59 PM, Barry LaZar wrote:
>> Joe,
>>     You bring an interesting point of view. I've been using a SignaLink
>> USB for at least 3-4 years. I haven't had an issue with it except not
>> enough time to play. And, I can't blame the manufacturer for that.
>> 
>>     I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these
>> discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do digital
>> signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram. However, I would never
>> use a card in my laptop or my I/F for some of the heavier lifting here
>> in my shack where I need 96KHz sample rates or better with 24 bit
>> digitizing. But for just hook it up, set the levels and go, an interface
>> with a built in sound card is not a bad way to go. In many cases, it is
>> just easier to do and it allows for more flexibility.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Barry
>> K3NDM
>> 
>> On 6/9/2015 3:11 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2015-06-09 12:02 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote:
>>>> OP said computer did not have an audio input.
>>> 
>>> He's still better off with an external USB sound card of reasonable
>>> quality and a pair of audio cables than using the Tigertronix product
>>> of dubious quality and well documented poor design.  A simple USB sound
>>> card of reasonable quality will cost 1/3 to 1/2 as much as the inferior
>>> "amateur" product.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>>   ... Joe, W4TV
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>> Elecraft mailing list
>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
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>> 
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From wunder at wunderwood.org  Tue Jun  9 17:19:25 2015
From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 14:19:25 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
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Please read this well-researched document. It has already been recommended in this string.

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/USB_Interfaces.pdf

wunder
K6WRU
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

On Jun 9, 2015, at 2:16 PM, David Ahrendts <davidahrendts at me.com> wrote:

> Gentlemen, suggest some alternatives to the SignalLink USB for digital. Would like to research.
> 
> David A., KC0XT
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists at subich.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these
>>> discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do
>>> digital signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram.
>> 
>> There are a significant number of reports concerning the issues with
>> Signalink on-line if one bothers to look.  In general they relate to
>> improper filtering of the USB +5V power, lack of a regulator for the
>> V/2 reference to the sound codec (analog to digital converter), lack
>> of proper bypassing of noise from the various chips, requirement that
>> the digital to analog converter be run at too high a level in order
>> for the "VOX" to trigger reliably, etc.
>> 
>> In general, this means Signalink loses 15 dB or more of signal to
>> noise ratio (which is a big deal with modes like JT65 and JT9 on HF)
>> on the receive side and is much more "dirty" (often with multiple
>> audio signals) on transmit.
>> 
>> You're correct that it does not take much of a sound card to decode
>> some signals.  However, the Signalink "sound card" contains most of
>> the same components as the generic USB sound products that perform
>> much better - yet Signalink costs two to three times as much.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>>  ... Joe, W4TV
>> 
>> 
>> On 2015-06-09 3:59 PM, Barry LaZar wrote:
>>> Joe,
>>>    You bring an interesting point of view. I've been using a SignaLink
>>> USB for at least 3-4 years. I haven't had an issue with it except not
>>> enough time to play. And, I can't blame the manufacturer for that.
>>> 
>>>    I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these
>>> discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do digital
>>> signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram. However, I would never
>>> use a card in my laptop or my I/F for some of the heavier lifting here
>>> in my shack where I need 96KHz sample rates or better with 24 bit
>>> digitizing. But for just hook it up, set the levels and go, an interface
>>> with a built in sound card is not a bad way to go. In many cases, it is
>>> just easier to do and it allows for more flexibility.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Barry
>>> K3NDM
>>> 
>>> On 6/9/2015 3:11 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 2015-06-09 12:02 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote:
>>>>> OP said computer did not have an audio input.
>>>> 
>>>> He's still better off with an external USB sound card of reasonable
>>>> quality and a pair of audio cables than using the Tigertronix product
>>>> of dubious quality and well documented poor design.  A simple USB sound
>>>> card of reasonable quality will cost 1/3 to 1/2 as much as the inferior
>>>> "amateur" product.
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> 
>>>>  ... Joe, W4TV
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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From w1rg at hotmail.com  Tue Jun  9 17:27:50 2015
From: w1rg at hotmail.com (Richard Gillingham)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 21:27:50 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] =?utf-8?q?Need_local_help?=
Message-ID: <COL401-EAS421DBCC64A5B2C90B92A4E29CBE0@phx.gbl>

I got the Numark STEREO iO Analog-To-Digital DJ Interface instead of the Signal Link?  Half the price and works well.

73

Gil, W1RG






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Please read this well-researched document. It has already been recommended in this string.

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/USB_Interfaces.pdf

wunder
K6WRU
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

On Jun 9, 2015, at 2:16 PM, David Ahrendts <davidahrendts at me.com> wrote:

> Gentlemen, suggest some alternatives to the SignalLink USB for digital. Would like to research.
> 
> David A., KC0XT
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists at subich.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these
>>> discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do
>>> digital signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram.
>> 
>> There are a significant number of reports concerning the issues with
>> Signalink on-line if one bothers to look.  In general they relate to
>> improper filtering of the USB +5V power, lack of a regulator for the
>> V/2 reference to the sound codec (analog to digital converter), lack
>> of proper bypassing of noise from the various chips, requirement that
>> the digital to analog converter be run at too high a level in order
>> for the "VOX" to trigger reliably, etc.
>> 
>> In general, this means Signalink loses 15 dB or more of signal to
>> noise ratio (which is a big deal with modes like JT65 and JT9 on HF)
>> on the receive side and is much more "dirty" (often with multiple
>> audio signals) on transmit.
>> 
>> You're correct that it does not take much of a sound card to decode
>> some signals.  However, the Signalink "sound card" contains most of
>> the same components as the generic USB sound products that perform
>> much better - yet Signalink costs two to three times as much.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>>  ... Joe, W4TV
>> 
>> 
>> On 2015-06-09 3:59 PM, Barry LaZar wrote:
>>> Joe,
>>>    You bring an interesting point of view. I've been using a SignaLink
>>> USB for at least 3-4 years. I haven't had an issue with it except not
>>> enough time to play. And, I can't blame the manufacturer for that.
>>> 
>>>    I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these
>>> discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do digital
>>> signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram. However, I would never
>>> use a card in my laptop or my I/F for some of the heavier lifting here
>>> in my shack where I need 96KHz sample rates or better with 24 bit
>>> digitizing. But for just hook it up, set the levels and go, an interface
>>> with a built in sound card is not a bad way to go. In many cases, it is
>>> just easier to do and it allows for more flexibility.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Barry
>>> K3NDM
>>> 
>>> On 6/9/2015 3:11 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 2015-06-09 12:02 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote:
>>>>> OP said computer did not have an audio input.
>>>> 
>>>> He's still better off with an external USB sound card of reasonable
>>>> quality and a pair of audio cables than using the Tigertronix product
>>>> of dubious quality and well documented poor design.  A simple USB sound
>>>> card of reasonable quality will cost 1/3 to 1/2 as much as the inferior
>>>> "amateur" product.
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> 
>>>>  ... Joe, W4TV
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>> Elecraft mailing list
>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
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From raysills3 at verizon.net  Tue Jun  9 17:31:18 2015
From: raysills3 at verizon.net (Ray Sills)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 17:31:18 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
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References: <201506090359.t593x036039571@atl4mhob16.myregisteredsite.com>
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Well, there is the iMic for one.  $30.  A good semi-pro audio  
interface would be priced at at least $150.  The Focusrite Scarlett  
2i2, would be a good example.  Then, if you want to "go-pro"... there  
are interfaces like the Universal Audio Apollo Twin DUO, for $900..  
(which is cheap, compared to the RME Fireface 802 USB / Firewire Audio  
Interface, at $1700.

There are more expensive interfaces and better interfaces, but most of  
them do not use USB for connecting to the computer.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211

On Jun 9, 2015, at 5:16 PM, David Ahrendts wrote:

> Gentlemen, suggest some alternatives to the SignalLink USB for  
> digital. Would like to research.
>
> David A., KC0XT


From dbecar at charter.net  Tue Jun  9 17:42:28 2015
From: dbecar at charter.net (Dave Becar iPhone)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 15:42:28 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Removal from email
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From lists at subich.com  Tue Jun  9 17:45:30 2015
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 17:45:30 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
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In addition to the sound cards recommended in the K9YC document,
these have been reported to be solid performing cards:
   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829128010 ($36)
   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829126101 ($18)
   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829126101 ($40)

That list is not exhaustive - it does not include many of the <$100
cards being recommended for SDR use or many of the <$10 "dongles" that
work exceedingly well for simple audio I/O purposes.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-06-09 5:16 PM, David Ahrendts wrote:
> Gentlemen, suggest some alternatives to the SignalLink USB for digital. Would like to research.
>
> David A., KC0XT
>
>> On Jun 9, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists at subich.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these
>>> discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do
>>> digital signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram.
>>
>> There are a significant number of reports concerning the issues with
>> Signalink on-line if one bothers to look.  In general they relate to
>> improper filtering of the USB +5V power, lack of a regulator for the
>> V/2 reference to the sound codec (analog to digital converter), lack
>> of proper bypassing of noise from the various chips, requirement that
>> the digital to analog converter be run at too high a level in order
>> for the "VOX" to trigger reliably, etc.
>>
>> In general, this means Signalink loses 15 dB or more of signal to
>> noise ratio (which is a big deal with modes like JT65 and JT9 on HF)
>> on the receive side and is much more "dirty" (often with multiple
>> audio signals) on transmit.
>>
>> You're correct that it does not take much of a sound card to decode
>> some signals.  However, the Signalink "sound card" contains most of
>> the same components as the generic USB sound products that perform
>> much better - yet Signalink costs two to three times as much.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>>    ... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>> On 2015-06-09 3:59 PM, Barry LaZar wrote:
>>> Joe,
>>>      You bring an interesting point of view. I've been using a SignaLink
>>> USB for at least 3-4 years. I haven't had an issue with it except not
>>> enough time to play. And, I can't blame the manufacturer for that.
>>>
>>>      I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these
>>> discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do digital
>>> signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram. However, I would never
>>> use a card in my laptop or my I/F for some of the heavier lifting here
>>> in my shack where I need 96KHz sample rates or better with 24 bit
>>> digitizing. But for just hook it up, set the levels and go, an interface
>>> with a built in sound card is not a bad way to go. In many cases, it is
>>> just easier to do and it allows for more flexibility.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Barry
>>> K3NDM
>>>
>>> On 6/9/2015 3:11 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 2015-06-09 12:02 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote:
>>>>> OP said computer did not have an audio input.
>>>>
>>>> He's still better off with an external USB sound card of reasonable
>>>> quality and a pair of audio cables than using the Tigertronix product
>>>> of dubious quality and well documented poor design.  A simple USB sound
>>>> card of reasonable quality will cost 1/3 to 1/2 as much as the inferior
>>>> "amateur" product.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>>    ... Joe, W4TV
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>> Elecraft mailing list
>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
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From n4rp at n4rp.com  Tue Jun  9 18:10:06 2015
From: n4rp at n4rp.com (Ross Primrose)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 18:10:06 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
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References: <201506090359.t593x036039571@atl4mhob16.myregisteredsite.com>	<5576ACFA.5010002@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk>	<1433857947832-7603841.post@n2.nabble.com>	<CABD27UkAYUHXTEPv6ot9J37t7hJ27ibHLtqhmZp0zE4e=uG94A@mail.gmail.com>	<1433865774492-7603850.post@n2.nabble.com>	<55773A47.3030104@subich.com>
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Just make sure you get one that can handle line level inputs, or you'll 
have to build an attenuator....

73, Ross N4RP

On 6/9/2015 5:45 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
> In addition to the sound cards recommended in the K9YC document,
> these have been reported to be solid performing cards:
>   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829128010 ($36)
>   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829126101 ($18)
>   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829126101 ($40)
>
> That list is not exhaustive - it does not include many of the <$100
> cards being recommended for SDR use or many of the <$10 "dongles" that
> work exceedingly well for simple audio I/O purposes.
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 2015-06-09 5:16 PM, David Ahrendts wrote:
>> Gentlemen, suggest some alternatives to the SignalLink USB for 
>> digital. Would like to research.
>>
>> David A., KC0XT
>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists at subich.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these
>>>> discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do
>>>> digital signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram.
>>>
>>> There are a significant number of reports concerning the issues with
>>> Signalink on-line if one bothers to look.  In general they relate to
>>> improper filtering of the USB +5V power, lack of a regulator for the
>>> V/2 reference to the sound codec (analog to digital converter), lack
>>> of proper bypassing of noise from the various chips, requirement that
>>> the digital to analog converter be run at too high a level in order
>>> for the "VOX" to trigger reliably, etc.
>>>
>>> In general, this means Signalink loses 15 dB or more of signal to
>>> noise ratio (which is a big deal with modes like JT65 and JT9 on HF)
>>> on the receive side and is much more "dirty" (often with multiple
>>> audio signals) on transmit.
>>>
>>> You're correct that it does not take much of a sound card to decode
>>> some signals.  However, the Signalink "sound card" contains most of
>>> the same components as the generic USB sound products that perform
>>> much better - yet Signalink costs two to three times as much.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>>    ... Joe, W4TV
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2015-06-09 3:59 PM, Barry LaZar wrote:
>>>> Joe,
>>>>      You bring an interesting point of view. I've been using a 
>>>> SignaLink
>>>> USB for at least 3-4 years. I haven't had an issue with it except not
>>>> enough time to play. And, I can't blame the manufacturer for that.
>>>>
>>>>      I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these
>>>> discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do digital
>>>> signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram. However, I would 
>>>> never
>>>> use a card in my laptop or my I/F for some of the heavier lifting here
>>>> in my shack where I need 96KHz sample rates or better with 24 bit
>>>> digitizing. But for just hook it up, set the levels and go, an 
>>>> interface
>>>> with a built in sound card is not a bad way to go. In many cases, 
>>>> it is
>>>> just easier to do and it allows for more flexibility.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Barry
>>>> K3NDM
>>>>
>>>> On 6/9/2015 3:11 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2015-06-09 12:02 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote:
>>>>>> OP said computer did not have an audio input.
>>>>>
>>>>> He's still better off with an external USB sound card of reasonable
>>>>> quality and a pair of audio cables than using the Tigertronix product
>>>>> of dubious quality and well documented poor design.  A simple USB 
>>>>> sound
>>>>> card of reasonable quality will cost 1/3 to 1/2 as much as the 
>>>>> inferior
>>>>> "amateur" product.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>>
>>>>>    ... Joe, W4TV
>>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>> Elecraft mailing list
>>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>>>>> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
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>>>>> Message delivered to k3ndm at comcast.net
>>>>>
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From n0jrn at att.net  Tue Jun  9 18:10:13 2015
From: n0jrn at att.net (Jerry Ford)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 22:10:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: LP Pan adaptor for K2 for sale
In-Reply-To: <1759588733.8325823.1433885162769.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <55774A59.3020900@embarqmail.com>
	<1759588733.8325823.1433885162769.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <399869084.8326966.1433887813345.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>


?    ?? Good afternoon all:??? 
I have a new in the box LP Pan adaptor for sale.????? It's built for K2.
I built it but it's never been hooked up.?? LED comes on when poweredup and it has all the correct voltages in the right spots.
When I built this adaptor,? the EMU0202? sound card was the preferredcard.?? the 0202 didn't work with Windows 7.?? With no sound card,?? I couldn't calibrate the adaptor.? SO,? it's built and ready.?? Just match itup with your sound card,? follow the directions in the LP Pan manual to calibrate to that card and have fun.? 
IF you looking at one of these,? you know what they cost.?? I'm asking$150.00? shipped
Please contact me off the list.??? Thanks very much:
Jerry???????? N0JRN
   

  

From w6jhb at me.com  Tue Jun  9 18:34:54 2015
From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 15:34:54 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd:  KAT500 Utility Question: Idle Sleep
References: <E3C95F5C-F60D-4F58-B45B-161E7ED414A3@me.com>
Message-ID: <6809EAA8-7C8B-4F4E-8714-27575B8CA183@me.com>

Case closed!

> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility Question: Idle Sleep
> From: James Bennett <w6jhb at me.com>
> Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 1:37:06 PM PDT
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> To: Dick Dievendorff <dick at elecraft.com>
> 
> Hi Dick,
> 
> Nope, using a Rig Runner 4008. The K3 goes to one PP port and the KAT500 goes to a separate port.
> 
> HOWEVER - the culprit has been found!!! When I just now squeezed in between the wall and my desk where the Rig Runner is mounted (making sure the cables went where I said they did) I noticed the PP plug for the KAT500 was not fully seated. I pushed it in all the way and tried the tuner power button - bingo! It powered up. 
> 
> While I am a fan of PowerPoles, I do think they could have been engineered a bit better to keep the plugs in place in an installation like mine, where the plugs go in horizontally; any amount of extra cable weight on the plug appears to have the effect of the plugs not being 100% seated.
> 
> Well, thanks for your assistance - now I can use the KAT500 with the KX3 again w/o futzing around with the K3 first!!!
> 
> 73, Jim
> an/listinfo/elecraft <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft>
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From vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk  Tue Jun  9 18:46:53 2015
From: vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk (Johnny Siu)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 22:46:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-500 modifications
In-Reply-To: <FA549DD0-B481-43D3-8A5B-32E4CC3DDBF8@gmail.com>
References: <FA549DD0-B481-43D3-8A5B-32E4CC3DDBF8@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <387547850.1879.1433890013669.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Does anyone have the any idea about the 'Factory upgraded w/ T/R circuit plus 12-meter low pass filter mod'? mentioned in the advert. below?
73
Johnny VR2XMC
      ???? H. Cary <h3cary at gmail.com>
 ???? elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
 ????? 2015?06?10? (??) 4:15 AM
 ??? [Elecraft] KPA-500 FOR SALE
   
For Sale: Elecraft KPA-500, serial # 0698, solid state linear amplifier, covers 160-6 meters.
Factory upgraded w/ T/R circuit plus 12-meter low pass filter mod on June 1, 2015.
Amplifier "meets or exceeds all factory specifications."
$1750 shipped CONUS.? Please contact direct: h3cary at gmail.com
Cary, K4TM




  

From h3cary at gmail.com  Tue Jun  9 19:01:05 2015
From: h3cary at gmail.com (H. Cary)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 19:01:05 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-50o and P3 Panadapter: SOLD
Message-ID: <B04A18B0-D05D-4E54-95D1-FE79150A7FBE@gmail.com>

Both the amp and Panadapter have been sold.
73, Cary

Sent from Clovelly Cottage, home of amateur radio station K4TM and the most creative Sue Cary, with my iPhone 6 in Lynchburg VA - a great place to live, work, play, and retire!

From enzo.adrianreyes at gmail.com  Tue Jun  9 19:18:12 2015
From: enzo.adrianreyes at gmail.com (Enzo Adrian-Reyes)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 09:18:12 +1000
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Errors and Strange behavior
Message-ID: <CAEAj7k3VAL9HYv--9tBtGyQLGGUUuExa1XVHF-7ZMAvohBv9UA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi there



I am having a few issues with my kx3, firstly last night I while trying to
use it I got a ERR DS5 message, but during that time while in use, any time
I would transmit it would randomly change my bandwith settings, display the
wrong roofing filter information. It eventually just gave up and displayed
that DS5.

The other issue is that the power and SWR meter while transmitting dont
move or update after a few second or dont update at all while on SSB. This
has been happening for a while.

I've tried resetting it, but after EEINIT message it still displays my
banner and it feels like it hasnt reset everything, I've also restored the
settings, but the power and SWR meter still dont show.

I would like some help on this to fix this issue, what steps can I do to
check everything is ok with the transciever, before mailing it out.

As an additional note the antenna I was using was an Alexloop portable
magnetic loop.

Regards

From matt.vk2rq at gmail.com  Tue Jun  9 20:12:59 2015
From: matt.vk2rq at gmail.com (Matt Maguire)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 00:12:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Errors and Strange behavior
In-Reply-To: <CAEAj7k3VAL9HYv--9tBtGyQLGGUUuExa1XVHF-7ZMAvohBv9UA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEAj7k3VAL9HYv--9tBtGyQLGGUUuExa1XVHF-7ZMAvohBv9UA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F0E8602DF208AAEE.EA6BDF12-CCCB-41EC-BE87-0418CCE26D7A@mail.outlook.com>

Before you do anything else, I suggest you contact Elecraft Support, and tell them what you have done up to this point so they can advise you as to the best way forward from here.

73, Matt VK2RQ




On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 4:18 PM -0700, "Enzo Adrian-Reyes" <enzo.adrianreyes at gmail.com> wrote:










Hi there



I am having a few issues with my kx3, firstly last night I while trying to
use it I got a ERR DS5 message, but during that time while in use, any time
I would transmit it would randomly change my bandwith settings, display the
wrong roofing filter information. It eventually just gave up and displayed
that DS5.

The other issue is that the power and SWR meter while transmitting dont
move or update after a few second or dont update at all while on SSB. This
has been happening for a while.

I've tried resetting it, but after EEINIT message it still displays my
banner and it feels like it hasnt reset everything, I've also restored the
settings, but the power and SWR meter still dont show.

I would like some help on this to fix this issue, what steps can I do to
check everything is ok with the transciever, before mailing it out.

As an additional note the antenna I was using was an Alexloop portable
magnetic loop.

Regards
______________________________________________________________
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From radioman at wideopenwest.com  Tue Jun  9 20:26:16 2015
From: radioman at wideopenwest.com (Richard)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 20:26:16 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Low band modifications
Message-ID: <010301d0a314$1125d5b0$33718110$@wideopenwest.com>

        I just got the new sync board, I'm wondering when and what is coming
to complete the low band range and sensitivity.

    I probably missed the info but figured as time goes on it will get
better.

 

                            Thanks Rich KC8HMJ

 


From aj4tf at arrl.net  Tue Jun  9 20:31:05 2015
From: aj4tf at arrl.net (aj4tf)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 17:31:05 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
In-Reply-To: <201506090359.t593x036039571@atl4mhob16.myregisteredsite.com>
References: <201506090359.t593x036039571@atl4mhob16.myregisteredsite.com>
Message-ID: <1433896265286-7603881.post@n2.nabble.com>

If you're talking about the Winbook TW700, it does indeed have a mic input. 
The audio jack is a 4-pin TRRS (tip-ring-ring-sleeve) with the same pinout
as an iPad.   I built a home brew cable set and interface and successfully
made contacts using the Winbook,  FLDIGI, and my K2.  

de AJ4TF





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From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Tue Jun  9 20:35:19 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 20:35:19 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Errors and Strange behavior
In-Reply-To: <CAEAj7k3VAL9HYv--9tBtGyQLGGUUuExa1XVHF-7ZMAvohBv9UA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEAj7k3VAL9HYv--9tBtGyQLGGUUuExa1XVHF-7ZMAvohBv9UA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55778647.1020109@embarqmail.com>

With any DSx error, write down the error as well as what is displayed in 
the VFO A area and contact support armed with that information.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/9/2015 7:18 PM, Enzo Adrian-Reyes wrote:
> Hi there
>
>
>
> I am having a few issues with my kx3, firstly last night I while trying to
> use it I got a ERR DS5 message, but during that time while in use, any time
> I would transmit it would randomly change my bandwith settings, display the
> wrong roofing filter information. It eventually just gave up and displayed
> that DS5.
>
>


From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Tue Jun  9 20:36:40 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 20:36:40 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Low band modifications
In-Reply-To: <010301d0a314$1125d5b0$33718110$@wideopenwest.com>
References: <010301d0a314$1125d5b0$33718110$@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <55778698.7000705@embarqmail.com>

Rich,

You have not missed anything yet.  Wayne promised 'soon'.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/9/2015 8:26 PM, Richard wrote:
>          I just got the new sync board, I'm wondering when and what is coming
> to complete the low band range and sensitivity.
>
>      I probably missed the info but figured as time goes on it will get
> better.
>


From w4grj at satterfield.org  Tue Jun  9 20:43:01 2015
From: w4grj at satterfield.org (W4GRJ)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 20:43:01 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 & P3 For Sale
In-Reply-To: <000301d0a185$ee5c40d0$cb14c270$@org>
References: <0NPK00KGKU04Y740@vms172077.mailsrvcs.net>
	<1433688177.90962.YahooMailBasic@web140103.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<000301d0a185$ee5c40d0$cb14c270$@org>
Message-ID: <5479DDBA-5BEB-46C6-92B3-54D51823E85A@satterfield.org>



For Sale K3 serial 3746 (Not K3S) Factory Assembled

K3/100
KAT3
KRX3
KXF3A
2- KF3A 2.8k 8pole filter
KFL3A 1.8k 8pole filter
KFL3A 400 8pole filter
KFL3A 6k 8pole filter
KFL3B 13k FM filter

$3450 includes shipping and insurance

P3 serial 1020 Factory assembled
$635

All perfect condition, non smoking environment. Prefer to sell K3 & P3 as
package, will include associated interconnect cables.

Please reply offline.
Tnx,
Jack
W4GRJ


From enzo.adrianreyes at gmail.com  Tue Jun  9 20:59:06 2015
From: enzo.adrianreyes at gmail.com (Enzo Adrian-Reyes)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 10:59:06 +1000
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Errors and Strange behavior
In-Reply-To: <F0E8602DF208AAEE.EA6BDF12-CCCB-41EC-BE87-0418CCE26D7A@mail.outlook.com>
References: <CAEAj7k3VAL9HYv--9tBtGyQLGGUUuExa1XVHF-7ZMAvohBv9UA@mail.gmail.com>
	<F0E8602DF208AAEE.EA6BDF12-CCCB-41EC-BE87-0418CCE26D7A@mail.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAEAj7k3J9=3M9o=bTmZbujGGdDPHavTgjWJQRuruzH-FhPSW3Q@mail.gmail.com>

I have contacted elecraft I did so , yesterday morning and I havent heard a
thing yet, so I am posting here to get more information.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Matt Maguire <matt.vk2rq at gmail.com> wrote:

> Before you do anything else, I suggest you contact Elecraft Support, and
> tell them what you have done up to this point so they can advise you as to
> the best way forward from here.
>
> 73, Matt VK2RQ
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 4:18 PM -0700, "Enzo Adrian-Reyes" <
> enzo.adrianreyes at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Hi there
>>
>>
>>
>> I am having a few issues with my kx3, firstly last night I while trying to
>> use it I got a ERR DS5 message, but during that time while in use, any time
>> I would transmit it would randomly change my bandwith settings, display the
>> wrong roofing filter information. It eventually just gave up and displayed
>> that DS5.
>>
>> The other issue is that the power and SWR meter while transmitting dont
>> move or update after a few second or dont update at all while on SSB. This
>> has been happening for a while.
>>
>> I've tried resetting it, but after EEINIT message it still displays my
>> banner and it feels like it hasnt reset everything, I've also restored the
>> settings, but the power and SWR meter still dont show.
>>
>> I would like some help on this to fix this issue, what steps can I do to
>> check everything is ok with the transciever, before mailing it out.
>>
>> As an additional note the antenna I was using was an Alexloop portable
>> magnetic loop.
>>
>> Regards
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> Elecraft mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
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From mrudolph at therabbi.com  Tue Jun  9 21:13:51 2015
From: mrudolph at therabbi.com (Michael Rudolph)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 21:13:51 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
Message-ID: <04aa01d0a31a$b6450c40$22cf24c0$@therabbi.com>

I thank everyone who responded.  I will experiment with all of the ideas
submitted.

 

73,

Michael N3IRT


From enzo.adrianreyes at gmail.com  Tue Jun  9 21:49:12 2015
From: enzo.adrianreyes at gmail.com (Enzo Adrian-Reyes)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:49:12 +1000
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Errors and Strange behavior
In-Reply-To: <CAHk01bA-zCGiL5RfRX5ST0am1U5QKFZSkkjKqVGyqykUi4vciQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEAj7k3VAL9HYv--9tBtGyQLGGUUuExa1XVHF-7ZMAvohBv9UA@mail.gmail.com>
	<F0E8602DF208AAEE.EA6BDF12-CCCB-41EC-BE87-0418CCE26D7A@mail.outlook.com>
	<CAEAj7k3J9=3M9o=bTmZbujGGdDPHavTgjWJQRuruzH-FhPSW3Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHk01bA-zCGiL5RfRX5ST0am1U5QKFZSkkjKqVGyqykUi4vciQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEAj7k1PwRdJ=B8XuTLjrBAMev8pBMjKXVWavi_L8VVf5Nm3MQ@mail.gmail.com>

Problem is I am in Australia, I work full time, I don't have the right TZ
to call them, where I work I am not allowed to make unauthorised calls to
the outside since I am in a secure facility making this practically
impossible to do.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Joshua Gould <jg.k8wxa at gmail.com> wrote:

> I would call them tomorrow...  You'll get much faster service...
>
> 72,
> Joshua Gould
> K8WXA
> EM89pn
>
> KX3 # 7480
>
> NAQCC # 7704
> OMISS # 9948
> 4sqrp # 990
> FP # 3579
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Enzo Adrian-Reyes <
> enzo.adrianreyes at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have contacted elecraft I did so , yesterday morning and I havent heard
>> a
>> thing yet, so I am posting here to get more information.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Matt Maguire <matt.vk2rq at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Before you do anything else, I suggest you contact Elecraft Support, and
>> > tell them what you have done up to this point so they can advise you as
>> to
>> > the best way forward from here.
>> >
>> > 73, Matt VK2RQ
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 4:18 PM -0700, "Enzo Adrian-Reyes" <
>> > enzo.adrianreyes at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >  Hi there
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I am having a few issues with my kx3, firstly last night I while
>> trying to
>> >> use it I got a ERR DS5 message, but during that time while in use, any
>> time
>> >> I would transmit it would randomly change my bandwith settings,
>> display the
>> >> wrong roofing filter information. It eventually just gave up and
>> displayed
>> >> that DS5.
>> >>
>> >> The other issue is that the power and SWR meter while transmitting dont
>> >> move or update after a few second or dont update at all while on SSB.
>> This
>> >> has been happening for a while.
>> >>
>> >> I've tried resetting it, but after EEINIT message it still displays my
>> >> banner and it feels like it hasnt reset everything, I've also restored
>> the
>> >> settings, but the power and SWR meter still dont show.
>> >>
>> >> I would like some help on this to fix this issue, what steps can I do
>> to
>> >> check everything is ok with the transciever, before mailing it out.
>> >>
>> >> As an additional note the antenna I was using was an Alexloop portable
>> >> magnetic loop.
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >> ______________________________________________________________
>> >> Elecraft mailing list
>> >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>> >> Post: mailto:Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> >>
>> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>> >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>> >> Message delivered to matt.vk2rq at gmail.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> ______________________________________________________________
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>>
>
>

From k6dgw at foothill.net  Tue Jun  9 22:28:28 2015
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 19:28:28 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Errors and Strange behavior
In-Reply-To: <CAEAj7k1PwRdJ=B8XuTLjrBAMev8pBMjKXVWavi_L8VVf5Nm3MQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEAj7k3VAL9HYv--9tBtGyQLGGUUuExa1XVHF-7ZMAvohBv9UA@mail.gmail.com>	<F0E8602DF208AAEE.EA6BDF12-CCCB-41EC-BE87-0418CCE26D7A@mail.outlook.com>	<CAEAj7k3J9=3M9o=bTmZbujGGdDPHavTgjWJQRuruzH-FhPSW3Q@mail.gmail.com>	<CAHk01bA-zCGiL5RfRX5ST0am1U5QKFZSkkjKqVGyqykUi4vciQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEAj7k1PwRdJ=B8XuTLjrBAMev8pBMjKXVWavi_L8VVf5Nm3MQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5577A0CC.5040708@foothill.net>

Ahh yes ... how easy it is to forget that ham radio is a global hobby. 
I too worked in a secure facility for many years, I can't imagine what a 
phone call placed to another country would have generated.

I'm pretty sure a bunch of the Elecraft employee crowd watch this list, 
I know some of them, and I know the "Heavy Breathers" do, I think you'll 
hear from them, maybe even at an appropriate time for you.  The company 
has a huge reputation for keeping their customers happy.

Stay safe Enzo, hope winter is treating you well

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org

On 6/9/2015 6:49 PM, Enzo Adrian-Reyes wrote:
> Problem is I am in Australia, I work full time, I don't have the right TZ
> to call them, where I work I am not allowed to make unauthorised calls to
> the outside since I am in a secure facility making this practically
> impossible to do.
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Joshua Gould <jg.k8wxa at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I would call them tomorrow...  You'll get much faster service...
>>
>> 72,
>> Joshua Gould
>> K8WXA
>> EM89pn
>>
>> KX3 # 7480
>>
>> NAQCC # 7704
>> OMISS # 9948
>> 4sqrp # 990
>> FP # 3579
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Enzo Adrian-Reyes <
>> enzo.adrianreyes at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have contacted elecraft I did so , yesterday morning and I havent heard
>>> a
>>> thing yet, so I am posting here to get more information.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Matt Maguire <matt.vk2rq at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Before you do anything else, I suggest you contact Elecraft Support, and
>>>> tell them what you have done up to this point so they can advise you as
>>> to
>>>> the best way forward from here.
>>>>
>>>> 73, Matt VK2RQ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 4:18 PM -0700, "Enzo Adrian-Reyes" <
>>>> enzo.adrianreyes at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Hi there
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am having a few issues with my kx3, firstly last night I while
>>> trying to
>>>>> use it I got a ERR DS5 message, but during that time while in use, any
>>> time
>>>>> I would transmit it would randomly change my bandwith settings,
>>> display the
>>>>> wrong roofing filter information. It eventually just gave up and
>>> displayed
>>>>> that DS5.
>>>>>
>>>>> The other issue is that the power and SWR meter while transmitting dont
>>>>> move or update after a few second or dont update at all while on SSB.
>>> This
>>>>> has been happening for a while.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've tried resetting it, but after EEINIT message it still displays my
>>>>> banner and it feels like it hasnt reset everything, I've also restored
>>> the
>>>>> settings, but the power and SWR meter still dont show.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like some help on this to fix this issue, what steps can I do
>>> to
>>>>> check everything is ok with the transciever, before mailing it out.
>>>>>
>>>>> As an additional note the antenna I was using was an Alexloop portable
>>>>> magnetic loop.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>> Elecraft mailing list
>>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
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From mfanning at hiwaay.net  Tue Jun  9 23:13:21 2015
From: mfanning at hiwaay.net (Mike Fanning)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 22:13:21 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 noise on receiver when switching from transmit
Message-ID: <70386CA5-87BA-447A-A932-CD258E8C4B20@hiwaay.net>

Hi all,
I have a K2 that I built some time ago that I added the KPA100 to at a later time.  I don?t have more than 10 minutes worth of run time on the KPA100 and I?m putting a dress rehearsal together for Field Day in a couple of weeks.  I noticed tonight that when I am running more than about 10 Watts (enough to kick the KPA100 on) that I get a nasty pop on the receiver whenever I come from transmit to receive mode.  Changing the tx-rx delay doesn?t affect the noise, and whenever I back the power down so that the KPA100 is not engaged, the problem goes away.  Any suggestions as to what might be going on?  It will be really tiring to listen to the receiver in this mode for 24 hours at FD?

Thanks for any light anyone can shed.

73,
Mike, K4GU

From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Tue Jun  9 23:52:09 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 23:52:09 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 noise on receiver when switching from transmit
In-Reply-To: <70386CA5-87BA-447A-A932-CD258E8C4B20@hiwaay.net>
References: <70386CA5-87BA-447A-A932-CD258E8C4B20@hiwaay.net>
Message-ID: <5577B469.50001@embarqmail.com>

Mike,

I am curious to hear just how long ago that "some time ago" really is.

The first thing to check is the setting of 8R - it should be set to HOLD 
with the KPA100 installed.  To check, go in the menu to T-R, edit the 
parameter and then tap DISPLAY.  If 8R was already set to HOLD, you will 
see 'nor' and you will have to tap DISPLAY again to set it back to 
HOLD.  OTOH, if you see HOLD when you tap DISPLAY the first time, it had 
been set to 'nor' - when you see HOLD, tap the menu button twice to exit.

There was a time when such pops could occur on some K2s that were 
equipped with both the KDSP2 and the KPA100.
The real source was never discovered other than it was caused by some 
transition in the KPA100 T/R switch and related to the unmute timing in 
the KDSP2.

That has not occurred in K2s that have the upgraded KPA100.  So check 
your KPA100 - remove the right side panel and look between the shield 
and the board.
If you see two toroids with blue cores, it has been upgraded, but if you 
see toroids with red cores, order the KPA100UPKT and do the upgrade.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/9/2015 11:13 PM, Mike Fanning wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have a K2 that I built some time ago that I added the KPA100 to at a later time.  I don?t have more than 10 minutes worth of run time on the KPA100 and I?m putting a dress rehearsal together for Field Day in a couple of weeks.  I noticed tonight that when I am running more than about 10 Watts (enough to kick the KPA100 on) that I get a nasty pop on the receiver whenever I come from transmit to receive mode.  Changing the tx-rx delay doesn?t affect the noise, and whenever I back the power down so that the KPA100 is not engaged, the problem goes away.  Any suggestions as to what might be going on?  It will be really tiring to listen to the receiver in this mode for 24 hours at FD?
>
>


From mfanning at hiwaay.net  Wed Jun 10 00:45:06 2015
From: mfanning at hiwaay.net (Mike Fanning)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 23:45:06 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 noise on receiver when switching from transmit
In-Reply-To: <5577B469.50001@embarqmail.com>
References: <70386CA5-87BA-447A-A932-CD258E8C4B20@hiwaay.net>
	<5577B469.50001@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <B7D79567-775B-418F-8680-7E18536D76B5@hiwaay.net>

Thanks for the quick reply Don!  I checked the 8R setting and it was indeed set to hold (and is set there again after toggling it to make sure).  I do have the KDSP2 option with the KPA100, but after peeling off the right side panel I see two baby blue toroids.  The K2 is serial number is 5882 and it was purchased in December 2006.  The KPA100 was bought at Dayton in 2009.  I think it took me another year to get around to building it, so it was probably buttoned up about 5 years ago and has been the backup/receive only rig since doing all the alignment checks.  This will be the first time I have really done any transmitting with it since adding the KPA100 (I?ll make sure to revisit the PA screws as instructed).  You have given me something else to check though - I need to pull the KDSP2 and see if that affects the problem.  I?m wondering if there were other upgrades to either the K2 or KDSP2 that might affect this as well?

Anyway, thanks for the lead and please let me know if you have any other ideas.

73,
Mike, K4GU


On Jun 9, 2015, at 10:52 PM, Don Wilhelm <w3fpr at embarqmail.com> wrote:

> Mike,
> 
> I am curious to hear just how long ago that "some time ago" really is.
> 
> The first thing to check is the setting of 8R - it should be set to HOLD with the KPA100 installed.  To check, go in the menu to T-R, edit the parameter and then tap DISPLAY.  If 8R was already set to HOLD, you will see 'nor' and you will have to tap DISPLAY again to set it back to HOLD.  OTOH, if you see HOLD when you tap DISPLAY the first time, it had been set to 'nor' - when you see HOLD, tap the menu button twice to exit.
> 
> There was a time when such pops could occur on some K2s that were equipped with both the KDSP2 and the KPA100.
> The real source was never discovered other than it was caused by some transition in the KPA100 T/R switch and related to the unmute timing in the KDSP2.
> 
> That has not occurred in K2s that have the upgraded KPA100.  So check your KPA100 - remove the right side panel and look between the shield and the board.
> If you see two toroids with blue cores, it has been upgraded, but if you see toroids with red cores, order the KPA100UPKT and do the upgrade.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 6/9/2015 11:13 PM, Mike Fanning wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I have a K2 that I built some time ago that I added the KPA100 to at a later time.  I don?t have more than 10 minutes worth of run time on the KPA100 and I?m putting a dress rehearsal together for Field Day in a couple of weeks.  I noticed tonight that when I am running more than about 10 Watts (enough to kick the KPA100 on) that I get a nasty pop on the receiver whenever I come from transmit to receive mode.  Changing the tx-rx delay doesn?t affect the noise, and whenever I back the power down so that the KPA100 is not engaged, the problem goes away.  Any suggestions as to what might be going on?  It will be really tiring to listen to the receiver in this mode for 24 hours at FD?
>> 
>> 
> 
> 


From pa3a at xs4all.nl  Wed Jun 10 03:54:09 2015
From: pa3a at xs4all.nl (Arie Kleingeld PA3A)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 09:54:09 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-500 modifications
In-Reply-To: <387547850.1879.1433890013669.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <FA549DD0-B481-43D3-8A5B-32E4CC3DDBF8@gmail.com>
	<387547850.1879.1433890013669.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5577ED21.3070404@xs4all.nl>

Johnny,

I have done that mod.

Reason was that my KPA500 had high SWR at the input and barely any gain. 
Tracked the problem down to the TR circuit. One of the switching Fet's 
(that switch the TR PIN-diodes) had died.
It proved to be an error that happened before, because for a lousy 12 
bucks I got all needed parts for a replacement in a mod-package from 
Elecraft. Coming with it were two C's to replace in the 12m LPF.  I 
replaced them in the same go.

Now all is well!


73
Arie PA3A


Johnny Siu schreef op 10-6-2015 om 0:46:
> Does anyone have the any idea about the 'Factory upgraded w/ T/R circuit plus 12-meter low pass filter mod'  mentioned in the advert. below?
> 73
> Johnny VR2XMC
>        ???? H. Cary <h3cary at gmail.com>
>   ???? elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>   ????? 2015?06?10? (??) 4:15 AM
>   ??? [Elecraft] KPA-500 FOR SALE
>     
> For Sale: Elecraft KPA-500, serial # 0698, solid state linear amplifier, covers 160-6 meters.
> Factory upgraded w/ T/R circuit plus 12-meter low pass filter mod on June 1, 2015.
> Amplifier "meets or exceeds all factory specifications."
> $1750 shipped CONUS.  Please contact direct: h3cary at gmail.com
> Cary, K4TM
>
>
>
>
>    
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From vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk  Wed Jun 10 04:08:53 2015
From: vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk (Johnny Siu)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 08:08:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-500 modifications
In-Reply-To: <5577ED21.3070404@xs4all.nl>
References: <5577ED21.3070404@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <1747521007.144430.1433923733173.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks Arie.
      ???? Arie Kleingeld PA3A <pa3a at xs4all.nl>
 ???? elecraft at mailman.qth.net; Johnny Siu <vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk> 
 ????? 2015?06?10? (??) 3:54 PM
 ??? Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 modifications
   
Johnny,

I have done that mod.

Reason was that my KPA500 had high SWR at the input and barely any gain. 
Tracked the problem down to the TR circuit. One of the switching Fet's 
(that switch the TR PIN-diodes) had died.
It proved to be an error that happened before, because for a lousy 12 
bucks I got all needed parts for a replacement in a mod-package from 
Elecraft. Coming with it were two C's to replace in the 12m LPF.? I 
replaced them in the same go.

Now all is well!


73
Arie PA3A


Johnny Siu schreef op 10-6-2015 om 0:46:
> Does anyone have the any idea about the 'Factory upgraded w/ T/R circuit plus 12-meter low pass filter mod'? mentioned in the advert. below?
> 73
> Johnny VR2XMC
>? ? ? ? ???? H. Cary <h3cary at gmail.com>
>? ???? elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>? ????? 2015?06?10? (??) 4:15 AM
>? ??? [Elecraft] KPA-500 FOR SALE
>? ? 
> For Sale: Elecraft KPA-500, serial # 0698, solid state linear amplifier, covers 160-6 meters.
> Factory upgraded w/ T/R circuit plus 12-meter low pass filter mod on June 1, 2015.
> Amplifier "meets or exceeds all factory specifications."
> $1750 shipped CONUS.? Please contact direct: h3cary at gmail.com
> Cary, K4TM
>
>
>
>
>? ? 
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From don at w3fpr.com  Wed Jun 10 07:36:26 2015
From: don at w3fpr.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 07:36:26 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 noise on receiver when switching from transmit
In-Reply-To: <B7D79567-775B-418F-8680-7E18536D76B5@hiwaay.net>
References: <70386CA5-87BA-447A-A932-CD258E8C4B20@hiwaay.net>	<5577B469.50001@embarqmail.com>
	<B7D79567-775B-418F-8680-7E18536D76B5@hiwaay.net>
Message-ID: <5578213A.5090604@w3fpr.com>

Mike,

With the blue toroids, you do have the updated KPA100.  Can I assume 
that this problem is a recent occurrence rather than a problem that has 
always been there?

Yes, removing and jumpering out the KDSP2 will likely stop it (or just 
try putting it in bypass), but that is not the source of the real 
problem, it is just the source of the 'pop'.
I would suggest digging into the KPA100 a bit.  Lay the KPA100 on its 
'back' on a book or box to the right of the K2, remove the shield and 
make the diode voltage measurements.  Hopefully that will reveal an anomaly.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 6/10/2015 12:45 AM, Mike Fanning wrote:
> Thanks for the quick reply Don!  I checked the 8R setting and it was indeed set to hold (and is set there again after toggling it to make sure).  I do have the KDSP2 option with the KPA100, but after peeling off the right side panel I see two baby blue toroids.  The K2 is serial number is 5882 and it was purchased in December 2006.  The KPA100 was bought at Dayton in 2009.  I think it took me another year to get around to building it, so it was probably buttoned up about 5 years ago and has been the backup/receive only rig since doing all the alignment checks.  This will be the first time I have really done any transmitting with it since adding the KPA100 (I?ll make sure to revisit the PA screws as instructed).  You have given me something else to check though - I need to pull the KDSP2 and see if that affects the problem.  I?m wondering if there were other upgrades to either the K2 or KDSP2 that might affect this as well?
>
>



From fritzejohn at gmail.com  Wed Jun 10 07:59:59 2015
From: fritzejohn at gmail.com (John Fritze)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 07:59:59 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 transmit module
Message-ID: <CAC2wZkZnmLbdw7EA0pt=r-=Mk-oAmM9M3+cgkpm6Aq5U5sAXGw@mail.gmail.com>

I wouldn't want to start a huge ruckus,  but I would love to be able to
show off the P3 transmit monitor for Field Day....just saying.

73 de
K2QY
John

From raysills3 at verizon.net  Wed Jun 10 08:19:36 2015
From: raysills3 at verizon.net (Ray Sills)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 08:19:36 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Errors and Strange behavior
In-Reply-To: <5577A0CC.5040708@foothill.net>
References: <CAEAj7k3VAL9HYv--9tBtGyQLGGUUuExa1XVHF-7ZMAvohBv9UA@mail.gmail.com>
	<F0E8602DF208AAEE.EA6BDF12-CCCB-41EC-BE87-0418CCE26D7A@mail.outlook.com>
	<CAEAj7k3J9=3M9o=bTmZbujGGdDPHavTgjWJQRuruzH-FhPSW3Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHk01bA-zCGiL5RfRX5ST0am1U5QKFZSkkjKqVGyqykUi4vciQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEAj7k1PwRdJ=B8XuTLjrBAMev8pBMjKXVWavi_L8VVf5Nm3MQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<5577A0CC.5040708@foothill.net>
Message-ID: <42BE0442-F96F-4267-BCFC-A6EB16F37300@verizon.net>

In the meantime, don't forget that email can often work nicely for  
those to communicate across time zones.  The same people at Elecraft  
who answer phone calls, also respond to email.  Just make sure to  
check your SPAM folder, if you don't have that person at Elecraft in  
your contacts list/address book.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211


On Jun 9, 2015, at 10:28 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

> Ahh yes ... how easy it is to forget that ham radio is a global  
> hobby. I too worked in a secure facility for many years, I can't  
> imagine what a phone call placed to another country would have  
> generated.
>
> I'm pretty sure a bunch of the Elecraft employee crowd watch this  
> list, I know some of them, and I know the "Heavy Breathers" do, I  
> think you'll hear from them, maybe even at an appropriate time for  
> you.  The company has a huge reputation for keeping their customers  
> happy.
>
> Stay safe Enzo, hope winter is treating you well
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW


From vk3zmf at bigpond.com  Wed Jun 10 08:20:50 2015
From: vk3zmf at bigpond.com (Mark Forsyth)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 22:20:50 +1000
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Errors and Strange behavior
In-Reply-To: <CAEAj7k3VAL9HYv--9tBtGyQLGGUUuExa1XVHF-7ZMAvohBv9UA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEAj7k3VAL9HYv--9tBtGyQLGGUUuExa1XVHF-7ZMAvohBv9UA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00b201d0a377$e3a966b0$aafc3410$@bigpond.com>

Hi there,

Have you tried opening up the radio and reseating the ribbon cable that runs
between the two halves ? 

Cheers,
Mark F...
VK3ZMF / VK3KW
KX3 with the lot # 1675
KXPA100 # 530
PX3 # 233

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> Enzo Adrian-Reyes
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 9:18 AM
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Errors and Strange behavior
> 
> Hi there
> 
> 
> 
> I am having a few issues with my kx3, firstly last night I while trying to
use it I
> got a ERR DS5 message, but during that time while in use, any time I would
> transmit it would randomly change my bandwith settings, display the wrong
> roofing filter information. It eventually just gave up and displayed that
DS5.
> 
> The other issue is that the power and SWR meter while transmitting dont
> move or update after a few second or dont update at all while on SSB. This
> has been happening for a while.
> 
> I've tried resetting it, but after EEINIT message it still displays my
banner and
> it feels like it hasnt reset everything, I've also restored the settings,
but the
> power and SWR meter still dont show.
> 
> I would like some help on this to fix this issue, what steps can I do to
check
> everything is ok with the transciever, before mailing it out.
> 
> As an additional note the antenna I was using was an Alexloop portable
> magnetic loop.
> 
> Regards
> __________________________________________________________
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From q.g.collier at btinternet.com  Wed Jun 10 08:48:27 2015
From: q.g.collier at btinternet.com (QUENTIN COLLIER)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 12:48:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] TX DLY PARAMETER
Message-ID: <1888401760.536218.1433940507360.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Something that isn't clear from the K3 manual.....does the TX DLY parameter apply to both CW andSSB, or is it CW only? Guidance welcome!? 


73, Quin G3WRR



From w7ox at socal.rr.com  Wed Jun 10 10:19:18 2015
From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 07:19:18 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 transmit module
In-Reply-To: <CAC2wZkZnmLbdw7EA0pt=r-=Mk-oAmM9M3+cgkpm6Aq5U5sAXGw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC2wZkZnmLbdw7EA0pt=r-=Mk-oAmM9M3+cgkpm6Aq5U5sAXGw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55784766.8050507@socal.rr.com>

Maybe next year, John.

Phil W7OX

On 6/10/15 4:59 AM, John Fritze wrote:
> I wouldn't want to start a huge ruckus,  but I would love to be able to
> show off the P3 transmit monitor for Field Day....just saying.
>
> 73 de
> K2QY
> John


From mark at tannert.net  Wed Jun 10 12:02:30 2015
From: mark at tannert.net (Mark Tannert)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 12:02:30 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
Message-ID: <CALXcQpfPRKPv1vhx7qSYRiTf3+nWbdZRqfidMeMpNKdNQi5q-Q@mail.gmail.com>

It would seem that all these line level input/output sound cards would have
some difficulty working with the KX3, which uses mic level input and
headphone level output.

Kindly correct me if I'm wrong.

Cheers, Mark/WN8U

From K2TK at att.net  Wed Jun 10 12:25:09 2015
From: K2TK at att.net (Bob)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 12:25:09 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Low band modifications
In-Reply-To: <55778698.7000705@embarqmail.com>
References: <010301d0a314$1125d5b0$33718110$@wideopenwest.com>
	<55778698.7000705@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <557864E5.1090708@att.net>

Needed,  a definition of soon.



On 5/13/15 8:39 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
Hi Petr,

The modification only affects 500 kHz and lower. We'll have a modification kit 
ready in a week or two.

A few K3s have been modified so far, and all performed very well.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

Way past above and no update.

73,
Bob
K2TK  ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR

On 6/9/2015 8:36 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Rich,
>
> You have not missed anything yet.  Wayne promised 'soon'.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 6/9/2015 8:26 PM, Richard wrote:
>>          I just got the new sync board, I'm wondering when and what is coming
>> to complete the low band range and sensitivity.
>>
>>      I probably missed the info but figured as time goes on it will get
>> better.

From lists at subich.com  Wed Jun 10 14:22:38 2015
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:22:38 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Need local help
In-Reply-To: <CALXcQpfPRKPv1vhx7qSYRiTf3+nWbdZRqfidMeMpNKdNQi5q-Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALXcQpfPRKPv1vhx7qSYRiTf3+nWbdZRqfidMeMpNKdNQi5q-Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5578806E.9040703@subich.com>


The cards I listed yesterday have both mic and line level inputs
(separate jacks) one or the other will be a reasonable match for
the headphone output.

As far as driving the mic input of the KX3 with line (speaker) output,
simply put a 10:1 (20 dB) attenuator in the cable to the mic input.
Typically one would connect a 1 uF cap to the tip of the speaker jack,
a 10K resistor from the cap to another 1 uF cap to the mic input of
the KX3 and a 1K resistor from the junction of the 10K resistor/output
1uF cap to the shield/return (from sleeve of the speaker jack to mic
return of the K3).  Note: the 1uF caps are simply there to block DC
on the sound card output (may not be necessary) and block the bias on
the KX3 mic line (if the KX3 is configured for use with an electret
mic).

If the drive is still excessive, change the 1K resistor to 470 Ohms
(22:1 or -26 dB).

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-06-10 12:02 PM, Mark Tannert wrote:
> It would seem that all these line level input/output sound cards would have
> some difficulty working with the KX3, which uses mic level input and
> headphone level output.
>
> Kindly correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> Cheers, Mark/WN8U
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From clevelandg at gmail.com  Wed Jun 10 14:39:58 2015
From: clevelandg at gmail.com (clevelandg at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:39:58 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KX-1 For Sale
Message-ID: <D6E00382-6682-4C55-8B11-173252E67759@gmail.com>

I have a KX1 in nice condition for sale. 
40, 30, and 20 meters.
KXAT1 internal ATU and KXPD1 paddles included. 
K6XX tuning indicator.
Manuals
$400.00 shipped
PayPal preferred

Grover K7TP


From w1az at comcast.net  Wed Jun 10 20:05:08 2015
From: w1az at comcast.net (Bernie Gardner)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 20:05:08 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 - KPA100 communication problem
Message-ID: <5578D0B4.5070001@comcast.net>

I have a KX3 with KPA 100 and PX3.  They had worked fine until yesterday 
when communication between the KX3 and my computer through a KUSB failed 
when the KPA100 is on.  The KX3 talks to the computer fine when the 
amplifier is off, but as soon as I turn it on, either through the KX3 PA 
mode setting or with the switch on the amp, the connection to the 
computer fails.  I can communicate with the amp OK.  Also, the 
connection to the PX3 isn't lost but the speed drops from 38400 to 19200 
with the amp on.  The connections between the amp/radio/px3 are per the 
PX3 manual using Elecraft cables.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Bernie
W1AZ




From phystad at mac.com  Wed Jun 10 20:38:29 2015
From: phystad at mac.com (Phil Hystad)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 17:38:29 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] KX1 and T1 For Sale
Message-ID: <D9CCBC95-6027-43E3-A75D-D08248D086BC@mac.com>

I have a KX1 and a T1 for sale ? bundled together or sold separately.  Prices below include packaging and shipping in CONUS up to $25 cost (shipping).

Elecraft KX1 with bands:  80, 40, 30, 20.   Price:  $325

     ?Note: does not include internal tuner nor does it include paddles.

Elecraft T1 20-watt tuner:             Price  $100


If both bought together:  $400

Current Retail Price:  KX1 ? $295, KXB3080:  $89.95, T1-A:  $159 totals up to: $543.95 to which you need to add assembly.

Prefer PayPal.  Both in excellent condition.  Don Wilhelm, W3FPR, did the 80/30 install and calibration.  The T1 Tuner was NOT the kit version but the factory built unit.

Please contact me off of the reflector.

73, phil, K7PEH

P.S. I hate to give these up but the KX3 has taken over my portable QRP ops arena.  Generating funds for a PX3.



From davidahrendts at me.com  Wed Jun 10 20:59:28 2015
From: davidahrendts at me.com (David Ahrendts)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 17:59:28 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 - KPA100 communication problem
In-Reply-To: <5578D0B4.5070001@comcast.net>
References: <5578D0B4.5070001@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <E7986015-828C-4BBF-8830-DFA00FEA1CED@me.com>

A fine issue this is, Bernie. Couple of questions:
1) Tell us about the connection to your computer. What type? How are using the computer with the KX3/KPA100/PX3? 
2) Have you checked the software settings for the KX3 Utility, the KPA100 Utility and the KX3 Utility? All good there?
3) And just for the heck of it, have you tried swapping KUSB cables in the event one of those may be the culprit?
Just my two cents. 

David A., KC0XT

> On Jun 10, 2015, at 5:05 PM, Bernie Gardner <w1az at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I have a KX3 with KPA 100 and PX3.  They had worked fine until yesterday when communication between the KX3 and my computer through a KUSB failed when the KPA100 is on.  The KX3 talks to the computer fine when the amplifier is off, but as soon as I turn it on, either through the KX3 PA mode setting or with the switch on the amp, the connection to the computer fails.  I can communicate with the amp OK.  Also, the connection to the PX3 isn't lost but the speed drops from 38400 to 19200 with the amp on.  The connections between the amp/radio/px3 are per the PX3 manual using Elecraft cables.
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
> Bernie
> W1AZ
> 
> 
> 
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From w1az at comcast.net  Wed Jun 10 23:03:03 2015
From: w1az at comcast.net (Bernie Gardner)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 23:03:03 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 - KPA100 communication problem
In-Reply-To: <021901d0a3db$e5d1ed90$b175c8b0$@elecraft.com>
References: <5578D0B4.5070001@comcast.net>
	<021901d0a3db$e5d1ed90$b175c8b0$@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <5578FA67.6080500@comcast.net>

Great guessing Dick!

That worked the first try.  I've really got to start playing with 
programming these things so I learn better how they work.

Thanks to Dick and others who have responded!  Things seem to be working 
fine now.

Bernie
W1AZ

On 6/10/2015 8:16 PM, Dick Dievendorff wrote:
> I'm guessing...
>
> Could the amplifier's RS-232 speed somehow have changed?
>
> If you connect the KXPA Utility to the amp, what RS-232 speed does it say
> (at the top of the screen)?
>
> If it's not 38,400 bit/s, you might try changing the speed to 38,400 bit/s.
>
> The command needed to do that, using the KXPA Utility's Command Tester, is
> "^BRP3;" (don't enter the quotes, but do enter the caret ^ and semicolon ;
>
> Then go to the Port tab of the KXPA Utility and click "test communications".
> It should then discover the KXPA100 at 38400 bit/s.
>
> The KXPA100 programming reference is here:
> http://www.elecraft.com/K2_Manual_Download_Page.htm#KXPA100 or
> http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KXPA100%20Amplifier%20Command%20Reference.pdf
>
> The KXPA100 has two RS-232 ports and two RS-232 speeds, one for the Host PC
> side (^BRP command) and another for the KX3 side (^BRX command)).
>
> The KX3 side should always be at 38,400.
>
> The PC side should be at 38400 unless you use a host computer program that
> requires a slower speed.
>
> When you change speeds with the KXPA Utility, you should go to the Port tab
> and click "test communications"; the Utility will then try all the speeds
> and find the one that you've changed to.
>
> 73 de Dick, K6KR
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bernie
> Gardner
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 5:05 PM
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 - KPA100 communication problem
>
> I have a KX3 with KPA 100 and PX3.  They had worked fine until yesterday
> when communication between the KX3 and my computer through a KUSB failed
> when the KPA100 is on.  The KX3 talks to the computer fine when the
> amplifier is off, but as soon as I turn it on, either through the KX3 PA
> mode setting or with the switch on the amp, the connection to the computer
> fails.  I can communicate with the amp OK.  Also, the connection to the PX3
> isn't lost but the speed drops from 38400 to 19200 with the amp on.  The
> connections between the amp/radio/px3 are per the
> PX3 manual using Elecraft cables.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
> Bernie
> W1AZ
>
>
>
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From ki6oss6365 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 11 01:06:21 2015
From: ki6oss6365 at gmail.com (ki6oss6365 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 23:06:21 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Add new email address
Message-ID: <C57B8EF1-2944-4D0B-B18F-5505CAAB9F99@gmail.com>

Add new email address KI6OSS6365 at gmail.com

Sent from my iPhone

From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Jun 11 10:51:55 2015
From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 15:51:55 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 VOX delay with Noise Gate question
Message-ID: <29005DFC-8C3C-4D71-9732-1EE6E5B9CBA2@yahoo.co.uk>

I was having problems setting a long enough VOX delay for my microphone. Even with delay at 2 the maximum it was dropping out between syllables. I eventually found that I had the Noise gate on as it was useful to cut out fan noise in gaps of speech. Turning off the noise gate allowed me to set the delay I wanted on the VOX.

So, is the use of noise gate not recommended with VOX? 

73

David Anderson GM4JJJ

From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Thu Jun 11 11:29:08 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 11:29:08 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 VOX delay with Noise Gate question
In-Reply-To: <29005DFC-8C3C-4D71-9732-1EE6E5B9CBA2@yahoo.co.uk>
References: <29005DFC-8C3C-4D71-9732-1EE6E5B9CBA2@yahoo.co.uk>
Message-ID: <5579A944.4000203@embarqmail.com>

David,

I would not say that it is not recommended, but yes, it can interact 
with other VOX controls and a happy medium can be difficult to find.
It sounds like you had the noise gate set to a high threshold.  See the 
TX GATE menu entry in the manual, which states "Set the threshold high 
enough to cut off transmit audio due to local noise, but not so high 
that it causes your voice to drop out too frequently."

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/11/2015 10:51 AM, David Anderson wrote:
> I was having problems setting a long enough VOX delay for my microphone. Even with delay at 2 the maximum it was dropping out between syllables. I eventually found that I had the Noise gate on as it was useful to cut out fan noise in gaps of speech. Turning off the noise gate allowed me to set the delay I wanted on the VOX.
>
> So, is the use of noise gate not recommended with VOX?
>
> 73
>
> David Anderson GM4JJJ
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From raysills3 at verizon.net  Thu Jun 11 11:38:35 2015
From: raysills3 at verizon.net (Ray Sills)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 11:38:35 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 VOX delay with Noise Gate question
In-Reply-To: <5579A944.4000203@embarqmail.com>
References: <29005DFC-8C3C-4D71-9732-1EE6E5B9CBA2@yahoo.co.uk>
	<5579A944.4000203@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <8B0CA53D-778F-46A2-B509-F8621B9863A1@verizon.net>

This is a case where "close mic" technique is useful.  Headsets with  
boom mics or hand-held mics, like the MH3 allow you to use a minimum  
setting for mic gain (because one's mouth is close to the mic), and  
that permits you a wider adjustment range for TX GATE, since any  
offending noise will be that much weaker.  In some cases, you many not  
need to gate the audio at all.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211


On Jun 11, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> David,
>
> I would not say that it is not recommended, but yes, it can interact  
> with other VOX controls and a happy medium can be difficult to find.
> It sounds like you had the noise gate set to a high threshold.  See  
> the TX GATE menu entry in the manual, which states "Set the  
> threshold high enough to cut off transmit audio due to local noise,  
> but not so high that it causes your voice to drop out too frequently."
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 6/11/2015 10:51 AM, David Anderson wrote:
>> I was having problems setting a long enough VOX delay for my  
>> microphone. Even with delay at 2 the maximum it was dropping out  
>> between syllables. I eventually found that I had the Noise gate on  
>> as it was useful to cut out fan noise in gaps of speech. Turning  
>> off the noise gate allowed me to set the delay I wanted on the VOX.
>>
>> So, is the use of noise gate not recommended with VOX?
>>
>> 73
>>
>> David Anderson GM4JJJ


From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Thu Jun 11 11:50:09 2015
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 08:50:09 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 VOX delay with Noise Gate question
In-Reply-To: <8B0CA53D-778F-46A2-B509-F8621B9863A1@verizon.net>
References: <29005DFC-8C3C-4D71-9732-1EE6E5B9CBA2@yahoo.co.uk>	<5579A944.4000203@embarqmail.com>
	<8B0CA53D-778F-46A2-B509-F8621B9863A1@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <5579AE31.8030907@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On Thu,6/11/2015 8:38 AM, Ray Sills wrote:
> This is a case where "close mic" technique is useful. Headsets with 
> boom mics or hand-held mics, like the MH3 allow you to use a minimum 
> setting for mic gain (because one's mouth is close to the mic), and 
> that permits you a wider adjustment range for TX GATE, since any 
> offending noise will be that much weaker. In some cases, you many not 
> need to gate the audio at all. 

Good advice, Ray. I would never think of using a mic more than a few 
inches from my mouth for ham radio. Boom headset mics like the Yamaha 
CM500 work really well. Before W6XU introduced our club to them, I used 
an RE11 on a boom stand.

73, Jim K9YC

From mbabineau at magma.ca  Thu Jun 11 13:28:30 2015
From: mbabineau at magma.ca (Michael Babineau)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:28:30 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] USPS shipping rates for non USA
Message-ID: <1F3F2C76-7CDC-4A69-96DD-9DBF52DE46F4@magma.ca>

When did the International USPS shipping rates go out the roof ??? 

I just ordered a noise blanker for my K2 (~$USD60 ) and the cheapest shipping to Canada via USPS came up as $USD38 ! 

Yikes ? that almost doubles the cost !  I don?t remember the rates being this bad the last time I ordered an add-on to my K2 .. did something change recently with
US Post ? 

Michael VE3WMB 

From nf4l at comcast.net  Thu Jun 11 13:41:37 2015
From: nf4l at comcast.net (Mike Reublin NF4L)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:41:37 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KRC2
Message-ID: <4DDC1EE3-D7F8-4DEE-BCEC-C70210F1DD5D@comcast.net>

My Ameritron RCS-12 automagic antenna switch is sulking, and not switching the remote RCS-10.

I'm thinking of replacing it with a KRC2 pre-built. Is anyone using it with a K3 and the Ameritron remote box? How difficult to configure it to work from the K3 ACC with the RCS-10?

The manual has the line "The ACC menu entry can be used to directly control the KRC2's accessory outputs.". I don't find any other reference. Whatsit mean?
 
73, Mike NF4L



From kevin at ve3syb.ca  Thu Jun 11 13:58:31 2015
From: kevin at ve3syb.ca (Kevin Cozens)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:58:31 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] USPS shipping rates for non USA
In-Reply-To: <1F3F2C76-7CDC-4A69-96DD-9DBF52DE46F4@magma.ca>
References: <1F3F2C76-7CDC-4A69-96DD-9DBF52DE46F4@magma.ca>
Message-ID: <5579CC47.8040400@ve3syb.ca>

On 15-06-11 01:28 PM, Michael Babineau wrote:
> When did the International USPS shipping rates go out the roof ???
>
> I just ordered a noise blanker for my K2 (~$USD60 ) and the cheapest
> shipping to Canada via USPS came up as $USD38 !

They have been high(er) for some time. I often see high US to Canada 
shipping rates when I'm looking at items on eBay. Sometimes I think sellers 
are trying to keep the item price down by getting more money from shipping, 
sometimes I think they don't know of cheaper rates that are easily found on 
the usps.gov website.

I need a new battery for my K2 but the shipping cost shown on the Elecraft 
website seemed rather high so I have held off on ordering it. A battery is a 
heavier item to ship and more an items weighs the more the price can go up 
to ship it.

The cost to mail a letter has gone up a lot. Now we are getting stuck with 
community mail boxes in Canada. The postal services seems to be providing 
less and less service for more and more money. There doesn't seem to be much 
we can do about it but learn to live with it.

-- 
Cheers!

Kevin.

http://www.ve3syb.ca/           |"Nerds make the shiny things that distract
Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172      | the mouth-breathers, and that's why we're
                                 | powerful!"
#include <disclaimer/favourite> |             --Chris Hardwick

From k.alexander at rogers.com  Thu Jun 11 14:09:54 2015
From: k.alexander at rogers.com (Ken Alexander)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:09:54 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] USPS shipping rates for non USA
In-Reply-To: <1F3F2C76-7CDC-4A69-96DD-9DBF52DE46F4@magma.ca>
References: <1F3F2C76-7CDC-4A69-96DD-9DBF52DE46F4@magma.ca>
Message-ID: <5579CEF2.1070202@rogers.com>

Hi Michael,

Yeah, it's been like that the last few years anyway.  Some of the less 
expensive items aren't worth ordering unless you can bundle them with a 
few other items.  Not much that can be done...unless Elecraft wants to 
sign up with a Canadian amateur radio retailer. That would be nice!

73,

Ken Alexander
VE3HLS


On 2015-06-11 1:28 PM, Michael Babineau wrote:
> When did the International USPS shipping rates go out the roof ???
>
> I just ordered a noise blanker for my K2 (~$USD60 ) and the cheapest shipping to Canada via USPS came up as $USD38 !
>
> Yikes ? that almost doubles the cost !  I don?t remember the rates being this bad the last time I ordered an add-on to my K2 .. did something change recently with
> US Post ?
>
> Michael VE3WMB
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From k2mk at comcast.net  Thu Jun 11 14:17:34 2015
From: k2mk at comcast.net (Mike K2MK)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 11:17:34 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] USPS shipping rates for non USA
In-Reply-To: <1F3F2C76-7CDC-4A69-96DD-9DBF52DE46F4@magma.ca>
References: <1F3F2C76-7CDC-4A69-96DD-9DBF52DE46F4@magma.ca>
Message-ID: <1434046654835-7603918.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hi Mike,

They have been high for some time but you can easily check it yourself if
you know the sender's zip code. Just go to the USPS web site and choose
"Calculate a Price" from the "Quick Tools" pull down menu. There are several
mailing options each with certain limitations.

https://www.usps.com/

73,
Mike K2MK


Michael Babineau-2 wrote
> When did the International USPS shipping rates go out the roof ??? 
> 
> I just ordered a noise blanker for my K2 (~$USD60 ) and the cheapest
> shipping to Canada via USPS came up as $USD38 ! 
> 
> Yikes ? that almost doubles the cost !  I don?t remember the rates being
> this bad the last time I ordered an add-on to my K2 .. did something
> change recently with
> US Post ? 
> 
> Michael VE3WMB 





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From jackbrindle at me.com  Thu Jun 11 14:30:15 2015
From: jackbrindle at me.com (Jack Brindle)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 11:30:15 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KRC2
In-Reply-To: <4DDC1EE3-D7F8-4DEE-BCEC-C70210F1DD5D@comcast.net>
References: <4DDC1EE3-D7F8-4DEE-BCEC-C70210F1DD5D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4011E34A-EE54-4F77-951A-7C24B9154B5B@me.com>

Mike, just how are you wanting to control the switch? If it is band-based, then just wire up the RCS-10 to the appropriate terminals in the KRC2, connect the KRC2 to the K3, and thing should start working. Are your needs more than this?

The best way to use the KRC2 with the K3 is using the Auxbus connection. Just two wires, Auxbus and ground, from the KRC2 to the K3. The KRC2 needs power, of course, and then the connections to the relay box.

Now, as for the ACC connectors, the K3 has entries in the KRC2 menu for Accessory switching. They directly control the ACC pins based on your menu selection.what can this be used for? Perhaps alternate antennas for a band, or other things.

It really is pretty simple. The large majority of users don?t even need to use the KRC2 utility to remap the output pins. Just hook things up and operate.

73!

- Jack B, W6FB

> On Jun 11, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Mike Reublin NF4L <nf4l at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> My Ameritron RCS-12 automagic antenna switch is sulking, and not switching the remote RCS-10.
> 
> I'm thinking of replacing it with a KRC2 pre-built. Is anyone using it with a K3 and the Ameritron remote box? How difficult to configure it to work from the K3 ACC with the RCS-10?
> 
> The manual has the line "The ACC menu entry can be used to directly control the KRC2's accessory outputs.". I don't find any other reference. Whatsit mean?
> 
> 73, Mike NF4L
> 
> 
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From lists at subich.com  Thu Jun 11 14:55:07 2015
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:55:07 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] USPS shipping rates for non USA
In-Reply-To: <1434046654835-7603918.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1F3F2C76-7CDC-4A69-96DD-9DBF52DE46F4@magma.ca>
	<1434046654835-7603918.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <5579D98B.8050805@subich.com>


Be careful doing that.  Some countries do not allow insurance or
set a low value for insurance on Priority Mail shipments.  That
means high value shipments (in some cases more than $200) must be
sent Priority Mail Express (EMS) or one of the couriers in order
to be protected.

International shipping is a snake pit ... not all countries are
as reliable, safe and ethical as the US or Canada.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-06-11 2:17 PM, Mike K2MK wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> They have been high for some time but you can easily check it yourself if
> you know the sender's zip code. Just go to the USPS web site and choose
> "Calculate a Price" from the "Quick Tools" pull down menu. There are several
> mailing options each with certain limitations.
>
> https://www.usps.com/
>
> 73,
> Mike K2MK
>
>
> Michael Babineau-2 wrote
>> When did the International USPS shipping rates go out the roof ???
>>
>> I just ordered a noise blanker for my K2 (~$USD60 ) and the cheapest
>> shipping to Canada via USPS came up as $USD38 !
>>
>> Yikes ? that almost doubles the cost !  I don?t remember the rates being
>> this bad the last time I ordered an add-on to my K2 .. did something
>> change recently with
>> US Post ?
>>
>> Michael VE3WMB
>
>
>
>
>
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From nf4l at comcast.net  Thu Jun 11 15:03:49 2015
From: nf4l at comcast.net (Mike Reublin NF4L)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 15:03:49 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KRC2
In-Reply-To: <4011E34A-EE54-4F77-951A-7C24B9154B5B@me.com>
References: <4DDC1EE3-D7F8-4DEE-BCEC-C70210F1DD5D@comcast.net>
	<4011E34A-EE54-4F77-951A-7C24B9154B5B@me.com>
Message-ID: <D358CB49-81F2-442C-AC29-438236831D47@comcast.net>

Thanks, Jack, sounds doable. Still dunno about this part "the K3 has entries in the KRC2 menu for Accessory switching".

73, Mike NF4L


> On Jun 11, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Jack Brindle <jackbrindle at me.com> wrote:
> 
> Mike, just how are you wanting to control the switch? If it is band-based, then just wire up the RCS-10 to the appropriate terminals in the KRC2, connect the KRC2 to the K3, and thing should start working. Are your needs more than this?
> 
> The best way to use the KRC2 with the K3 is using the Auxbus connection. Just two wires, Auxbus and ground, from the KRC2 to the K3. The KRC2 needs power, of course, and then the connections to the relay box.
> 
> Now, as for the ACC connectors, the K3 has entries in the KRC2 menu for Accessory switching. They directly control the ACC pins based on your menu selection.what can this be used for? Perhaps alternate antennas for a band, or other things.
> 
> It really is pretty simple. The large majority of users don?t even need to use the KRC2 utility to remap the output pins. Just hook things up and operate.
> 
> 73!
> 
> - Jack B, W6FB
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Mike Reublin NF4L <nf4l at comcast.net <mailto:nf4l at comcast.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> My Ameritron RCS-12 automagic antenna switch is sulking, and not switching the remote RCS-10.
>> 
>> I'm thinking of replacing it with a KRC2 pre-built. Is anyone using it with a K3 and the Ameritron remote box? How difficult to configure it to work from the K3 ACC with the RCS-10?
>> 
>> The manual has the line "The ACC menu entry can be used to directly control the KRC2's accessory outputs.". I don't find any other reference. Whatsit mean?
>> 
>> 73, Mike NF4L
>> 
>> 
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From larry at rn.org  Thu Jun 11 15:08:19 2015
From: larry at rn.org (Larry Snyder)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:08:19 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] 6 - 10 preamp not working
Message-ID: <244b01d0a479$fba420e0$f2ec62a0$@rn.org>

I ordered the 6-10 preamp and it doesn't appear to work.

 

I used the DB-15 Y cable from the radio - one end connected to the DB-15 to
the preamp and the other with the supplied mini gender changer (which
doesn't have the black dot on it according to the documentation)  connected
to the KAT500 which then connected to the KPA500.

 

The power for the preamp is connected to the RCA which is connected to the
RCA splitter connected to the back of the K3.  The other end of the RCA
connects to the KAT500.

 

I went to 10 meters on the K3.

 

I set CONFIG->DIGIOUT I to ON.

 

I am on the 10 meter repeater in NY on 29.620 - with the tone.   It keys up
fine and I can hear the repeater without the RX ANT selected.

 

I key the repeater

 

I hear the repeater


I hit RX ANT and I hear only static.  I key the repeater and hear static
only.  Release the RX ANT and I hear the repeater.


on the P3 The waveform at the bottom is -125 to -130 with the RX ANT not
enabled.  When I hit RX ANT the whole waveform drops to -140.

 

The 6-10 preamp will click with I unplug the 12 volts (so I know it is
getting 12 volts).

 

Any ideas??

 

73s HK2LS

 

 


From ejkkjh at gmail.com  Thu Jun 11 15:11:05 2015
From: ejkkjh at gmail.com (ejkkjh at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 15:11:05 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
Message-ID: <E25DA2C9776B40B197C2F8EF21F579B0@ejhPC>

Having problems with install of the KXV3B upgrading from a KXV3A.
The pins are two long on the KXV3B, with BNC connectors up as far as they will go in the rear slot?
I tried putting the pins in tilting the board with the BNC connectors not out of the slot, it was too much of an angle, they will not go in?
I guess I can cut the pins shorter on the KXV3B but wanted to check on that first.
Any help would be appreciated.  thank you 73
Emory  WM3M

From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Thu Jun 11 15:12:52 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 15:12:52 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] USPS shipping rates for non USA
In-Reply-To: <5579D98B.8050805@subich.com>
References: <1F3F2C76-7CDC-4A69-96DD-9DBF52DE46F4@magma.ca>	<1434046654835-7603918.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<5579D98B.8050805@subich.com>
Message-ID: <5579DDB4.8070506@embarqmail.com>

The USPS postal cost calculator will tell you if there is a limit on the 
insurance amount (unless it is zero, in which case you will not have the 
opportunity to add insurance).  Each country sets their own rules on 
maximum insurance.
The "high value" designation is now changed to $500 (used to be $200).  
I just found out yesterday about that.

I use USPS shipping and the postage calculator often - 3 days or more 
each week - and I occasionally ship internationally, so I have learned 
*many* of the rules.
I have never had a problem with shipments to Canada, but it is more 
pricy than domestic shipments.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/11/2015 2:55 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
> Be careful doing that.  Some countries do not allow insurance or
> set a low value for insurance on Priority Mail shipments.  That
> means high value shipments (in some cases more than $200) must be
> sent Priority Mail Express (EMS) or one of the couriers in order
> to be protected.
>
> International shipping is a snake pit ... not all countries are
> as reliable, safe and ethical as the US or Canada.
>


From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Thu Jun 11 15:30:27 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 15:30:27 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KRC2
In-Reply-To: <D358CB49-81F2-442C-AC29-438236831D47@comcast.net>
References: <4DDC1EE3-D7F8-4DEE-BCEC-C70210F1DD5D@comcast.net>	<4011E34A-EE54-4F77-951A-7C24B9154B5B@me.com>
	<D358CB49-81F2-442C-AC29-438236831D47@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <5579E1D3.4030206@embarqmail.com>

Mike,

Refer to the K3 manual page 57 - menu entry for KRC2, and also the KRC2 
manual.
There is a bit of possible confusion between the two designations 
"ACC".  A standard KRC2 has 3 ACC outputs as well as the band outputs.
The KRC2ACC is a slightly different version of the KRC2 which has 
features intended to assist unsighted amateurs - and the buttons in that 
version serve a different purpose than for the standard version.
If you happen to have the KRC2ACC hardware, you can negate the changes 
for the announciator functions by loading the non-ACC version of the 
KRC2 firmware and it will function as the standard one.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/11/2015 3:03 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote:
> Thanks, Jack, sounds doable. Still dunno about this part "the K3 has entries in the KRC2 menu for Accessory switching".
>
> 73, Mike NF4L
>
>


From drewko1 at verizon.net  Thu Jun 11 15:39:29 2015
From: drewko1 at verizon.net (drewko)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 15:39:29 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
In-Reply-To: <E25DA2C9776B40B197C2F8EF21F579B0@ejhPC>
References: <E25DA2C9776B40B197C2F8EF21F579B0@ejhPC>
Message-ID: <5579E3F1.3090001@verizon.net>

The KXV3 boards are a tight fit. I've had mine in and out a few times 
(replaced blown pin diodes) and finally figured out that I needed to 
file the square cutout in the frame a bit at the top corners in order to 
let the BNC jacks clear; I rounded the corners slightly with a needle file.

Also, depress the board you are plugging into; there is a bit of flex 
which may give you enough clearance.

73,
Drew
AF2Z



On 06/11/15 15:11, ejkkjh at gmail.com wrote:
> Having problems with install of the KXV3B upgrading from a KXV3A.
> The pins are two long on the KXV3B, with BNC connectors up as far as they will go in the rear slot?
> I tried putting the pins in tilting the board with the BNC connectors not out of the slot, it was too much of an angle, they will not go in?
> I guess I can cut the pins shorter on the KXV3B but wanted to check on that first.
> Any help would be appreciated.  thank you 73
> Emory  WM3M

From w1ksz at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 11 15:49:44 2015
From: w1ksz at earthlink.net (Richard Solomon)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 12:49:44 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] USPS shipping rates for non USA
In-Reply-To: <1F3F2C76-7CDC-4A69-96DD-9DBF52DE46F4@magma.ca>
References: <1F3F2C76-7CDC-4A69-96DD-9DBF52DE46F4@magma.ca>
Message-ID: <5579E658.80000@earthlink.net>

If you think that's bad, check out the cost to ship a similar weight
item to the USA from Canada.

Shipping costs in general are spiraling upward, someone has to pay
the cost of all those perks.

73, Dick, W1KSZ

On 6/11/2015 10:28 AM, Michael Babineau wrote:
> When did the International USPS shipping rates go out the roof ???
>
> I just ordered a noise blanker for my K2 (~$USD60 ) and the cheapest shipping to Canada via USPS came up as $USD38 !
>
> Yikes ? that almost doubles the cost !  I don?t remember the rates being this bad the last time I ordered an add-on to my K2 .. did something change recently with
> US Post ?
>
> Michael VE3WMB
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From n0jrn at att.net  Thu Jun 11 15:58:27 2015
From: n0jrn at att.net (Jerry Ford)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 19:58:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] XV50  transverter for sale
Message-ID: <1605594024.1240495.1434052707818.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

 Good Afternoon All:
I have?for sale an XV50? 6? meter transverter.??? I built this transverterto go with my K2.???? Unfortunately,? I haven't had much time to play on theradio so I'm moving some of my stuff out.
This transverter is as new.?? Not a mark on it anywhere !???? It works flawlessly.?? 
SO,? if your considering some spring E skip on 6,?? here's a good way toget involved.? I'm asking $250.00? shipped.?? I will double box to protect it.?? Comes with the manual which is also new.? 
Please contact me off the list.? 
thanks and 73:??????? Jerry???????? N0JRN


From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Thu Jun 11 16:12:03 2015
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:12:03 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
In-Reply-To: <E25DA2C9776B40B197C2F8EF21F579B0@ejhPC>
References: <E25DA2C9776B40B197C2F8EF21F579B0@ejhPC>
Message-ID: <5579EB93.6020005@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On Thu,6/11/2015 12:11 PM, ejkkjh at gmail.com wrote:
> Having problems with install of the KXV3B upgrading from a KXV3A.
> The pins are two long on the KXV3B, with BNC connectors up as far as they will go in the rear slot?
> I tried putting the pins in tilting the board with the BNC connectors not out of the slot, it was too much of an angle, they will not go in?
> I guess I can cut the pins shorter on the KXV3B but wanted to check on that first.
> Any help would be appreciated.

I also had a very hard time with it, and ended up driving down to the 
factory to let them do it. They let me watch the bench tech, who had it 
installed in a few seconds.

I had to do my second K3, so I had him show me. There are three keys to 
doing it, for me, at least.

1) in addition removing the top cover, also remove the side panel. It 
makes it much easier to see when the pins are aligned with the socket, 
and to get your fingers in there.

2) Begin by bending the pins slightly with a good pair of long 
needle-nose pliers (toward the rear panel. It doesn't take much -- 10-15 
degrees at most.

3) Now, insert the BNC connectors through the opening. If you've bent 
the pins enough, they'll be close enough to the socket that you can push 
them in to mate. If you haven't bent the pins, they will be on the front 
side of the socket.

73, Jim K9YC

From nf4l at comcast.net  Thu Jun 11 16:17:17 2015
From: nf4l at comcast.net (Mike Reublin NF4L)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 16:17:17 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KRC2
In-Reply-To: <5579E1D3.4030206@embarqmail.com>
References: <4DDC1EE3-D7F8-4DEE-BCEC-C70210F1DD5D@comcast.net>
	<4011E34A-EE54-4F77-951A-7C24B9154B5B@me.com>
	<D358CB49-81F2-442C-AC29-438236831D47@comcast.net>
	<5579E1D3.4030206@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <D558C156-1643-4285-8FCA-4D1A15874102@comcast.net>

AHA! Thanks Don. Having found it I'll have to figure out how to use it. 
73, Mike NF4L


> On Jun 11, 2015, at 3:30 PM, Don Wilhelm <w3fpr at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> 
> Refer to the K3 manual page 57 - menu entry for KRC2, and also the KRC2 manual.
> There is a bit of possible confusion between the two designations "ACC".  A standard KRC2 has 3 ACC outputs as well as the band outputs.
> The KRC2ACC is a slightly different version of the KRC2 which has features intended to assist unsighted amateurs - and the buttons in that version serve a different purpose than for the standard version.
> If you happen to have the KRC2ACC hardware, you can negate the changes for the announciator functions by loading the non-ACC version of the KRC2 firmware and it will function as the standard one.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 6/11/2015 3:03 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote:
>> Thanks, Jack, sounds doable. Still dunno about this part "the K3 has entries in the KRC2 menu for Accessory switching".
>> 
>> 73, Mike NF4L
>> 
>> 
> 


From k2mk at comcast.net  Thu Jun 11 17:07:03 2015
From: k2mk at comcast.net (Mike K2MK)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:07:03 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] 6 - 10 preamp not working
In-Reply-To: <244b01d0a479$fba420e0$f2ec62a0$@rn.org>
References: <244b01d0a479$fba420e0$f2ec62a0$@rn.org>
Message-ID: <1434056823716-7603931.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hi Larry,

Probably a pin 11 problem in the accessory cable leading to the KPA500.
Search the archive for "pin 11 problem". 

This comes up frequently enough that Elecraft should document it in the
KPA500 manual and the PR6 and PR6-10 instructions.

73,
Mike K2MK



Larry Snyder wrote
> I ordered the 6-10 preamp and it doesn't appear to work.
> 
> I used the DB-15 Y cable from the radio - one end connected to the DB-15
> to
> the preamp and the other with the supplied mini gender changer (which
> doesn't have the black dot on it according to the documentation) 
> connected
> to the KAT500 which then connected to the KPA500.
> 
> The power for the preamp is connected to the RCA which is connected to the
> RCA splitter connected to the back of the K3.  The other end of the RCA
> connects to the KAT500.
> 
> I went to 10 meters on the K3.
> 
> I set CONFIG->DIGIOUT I to ON.
> 
> I am on the 10 meter repeater in NY on 29.620 - with the tone.   It keys
> up
> fine and I can hear the repeater without the RX ANT selected.
> 
> I key the repeater
> 
> I hear the repeater
> 
> I hit RX ANT and I hear only static.  I key the repeater and hear static
> only.  Release the RX ANT and I hear the repeater.
> 
> on the P3 The waveform at the bottom is -125 to -130 with the RX ANT not
> enabled.  When I hit RX ANT the whole waveform drops to -140.
> 
> The 6-10 preamp will click with I unplug the 12 volts (so I know it is
> getting 12 volts).
> 
> Any ideas??
> 
> 73s HK2LS





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From mteberle at mchsi.com  Thu Jun 11 17:07:57 2015
From: mteberle at mchsi.com (Michael Eberle)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 16:07:57 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] 6 - 10 preamp not working
In-Reply-To: <244b01d0a479$fba420e0$f2ec62a0$@rn.org>
References: <244b01d0a479$fba420e0$f2ec62a0$@rn.org>
Message-ID: <5579F8AD.7010305@mchsi.com>


Does it work on 6 meters?  CONFIG->DIGOUT 1 is set on per-band basis but 
that is probably not a problem if it is getting 12 volts.

The first thing I would check if it doesn't work on 6 or 12, (because it 
is something I would likely do) is make sure it is connected on the back 
of the radio to RX In and Out and not XVTR In and Out.  Also check to 
see that the amp itself is has the PREAMP side connected to the radio 
and not BYPASS.

Mike
KI0HA

On 6/11/2015 2:08 PM, Larry Snyder wrote:
> I ordered the 6-10 preamp and it doesn't appear to work.
>
> I went to 10 meters on the K3.
>
> I set CONFIG->DIGIOUT I to ON.
>
> The 6-10 preamp will click with I unplug the 12 volts (so I know it is
> getting 12 volts).
>
>   
>
> Any ideas??
>
>   
>
> 73s HK2LS
>
>   
>
>   
>
>


From ejkkjh at gmail.com  Thu Jun 11 19:23:39 2015
From: ejkkjh at gmail.com (ejkkjh at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 19:23:39 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
In-Reply-To: <5579EB93.6020005@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <E25DA2C9776B40B197C2F8EF21F579B0@ejhPC>
	<5579EB93.6020005@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <D609590B6D98401E838E120D7EBD45F0@ejhPC>

Thanks to Jim and Drew for the help.
I talked to Elecraft support.
I tried bending the pins, loosening the side and back panels, pins were just 
too long.  With the KXV3B lined up and in position, and with the pins behind 
the header, the pins touched the main board.
Support said it was ok to cut the pins so I cut tiny bits off till it would 
go in the header.
If the back was off it would probably go in easily but just too many little 
screws, nuts etc. to do that.
Also, I think it would help if there was an instruction sheet just for us 
who upgrade from the KXV3A/KXV3.
Now to load the new firmware..  thanks and 73
Emory  WM3M

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jim Brown
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 4:12 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems

On Thu,6/11/2015 12:11 PM, ejkkjh at gmail.com wrote:
> Having problems with install of the KXV3B upgrading from a KXV3A.
> The pins are two long on the KXV3B, with BNC connectors up as far as they 
> will go in the rear slot?
> I tried putting the pins in tilting the board with the BNC connectors not 
> out of the slot, it was too much of an angle, they will not go in?
> I guess I can cut the pins shorter on the KXV3B but wanted to check on 
> that first.
> Any help would be appreciated.

I also had a very hard time with it, and ended up driving down to the
factory to let them do it. They let me watch the bench tech, who had it
installed in a few seconds.

I had to do my second K3, so I had him show me. There are three keys to
doing it, for me, at least.

1) in addition removing the top cover, also remove the side panel. It
makes it much easier to see when the pins are aligned with the socket,
and to get your fingers in there.

2) Begin by bending the pins slightly with a good pair of long
needle-nose pliers (toward the rear panel. It doesn't take much -- 10-15
degrees at most.

3) Now, insert the BNC connectors through the opening. If you've bent
the pins enough, they'll be close enough to the socket that you can push
them in to mate. If you haven't bent the pins, they will be on the front
side of the socket.

73, Jim K9YC
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From mbabineau at magma.ca  Thu Jun 11 19:28:14 2015
From: mbabineau at magma.ca (Michael Babineau)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 19:28:14 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] USPS shipping rates for non USA
In-Reply-To: <1F3F2C76-7CDC-4A69-96DD-9DBF52DE46F4@magma.ca>
References: <1F3F2C76-7CDC-4A69-96DD-9DBF52DE46F4@magma.ca>
Message-ID: <33BD8FA9-75FC-4B52-812B-793EADF5D868@magma.ca>

I am very happy to report that Madelyn from Elecraft sales contacted me via email and offered an alternate USPS shipping option
(slower and no tracking) that was only $USD15 .. which seems pretty reasonable to me. 

I love this company, ? they truly understand customer service ! 

Cheers

Michael VE3WMB 

On Jun 11, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Michael Babineau <mbabineau at magma.ca> wrote:

> When did the International USPS shipping rates go out the roof ??? 
> 
> I just ordered a noise blanker for my K2 (~$USD60 ) and the cheapest shipping to Canada via USPS came up as $USD38 ! 
> 
> Yikes ? that almost doubles the cost !  I don?t remember the rates being this bad the last time I ordered an add-on to my K2 .. did something change recently with
> US Post ? 
> 
> Michael VE3WMB


From ejkkjh at gmail.com  Thu Jun 11 20:06:15 2015
From: ejkkjh at gmail.com (ejkkjh at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 20:06:15 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
In-Reply-To: <D609590B6D98401E838E120D7EBD45F0@ejhPC>
References: <E25DA2C9776B40B197C2F8EF21F579B0@ejhPC>
	<5579EB93.6020005@audiosystemsgroup.com>
	<D609590B6D98401E838E120D7EBD45F0@ejhPC>
Message-ID: <049712F279CC4AC68430F5D4E6F50B9A@ejhPC>

One more quick follow-up.
The new KXV3B works great, especially on 6 meters and just in time for this 
weekends contest.
Thanks again... 73
Emory  WM3M


-----Original Message----- 
From: ejkkjh at gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 7:23 PM
To: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com ; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems

Thanks to Jim and Drew for the help.
I talked to Elecraft support.
I tried bending the pins, loosening the side and back panels, pins were just
too long.  With the KXV3B lined up and in position, and with the pins behind
the header, the pins touched the main board.
Support said it was ok to cut the pins so I cut tiny bits off till it would
go in the header.
If the back was off it would probably go in easily but just too many little
screws, nuts etc. to do that.
Also, I think it would help if there was an instruction sheet just for us
who upgrade from the KXV3A/KXV3.
Now to load the new firmware..  thanks and 73
Emory  WM3M

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jim Brown
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 4:12 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems

On Thu,6/11/2015 12:11 PM, ejkkjh at gmail.com wrote:
> Having problems with install of the KXV3B upgrading from a KXV3A.
> The pins are two long on the KXV3B, with BNC connectors up as far as they 
> will go in the rear slot?
> I tried putting the pins in tilting the board with the BNC connectors not 
> out of the slot, it was too much of an angle, they will not go in?
> I guess I can cut the pins shorter on the KXV3B but wanted to check on 
> that first.
> Any help would be appreciated.

I also had a very hard time with it, and ended up driving down to the
factory to let them do it. They let me watch the bench tech, who had it
installed in a few seconds.

I had to do my second K3, so I had him show me. There are three keys to
doing it, for me, at least.

1) in addition removing the top cover, also remove the side panel. It
makes it much easier to see when the pins are aligned with the socket,
and to get your fingers in there.

2) Begin by bending the pins slightly with a good pair of long
needle-nose pliers (toward the rear panel. It doesn't take much -- 10-15
degrees at most.

3) Now, insert the BNC connectors through the opening. If you've bent
the pins enough, they'll be close enough to the socket that you can push
them in to mate. If you haven't bent the pins, they will be on the front
side of the socket.

73, Jim K9YC
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From ava622 at verizon.net  Thu Jun 11 21:29:56 2015
From: ava622 at verizon.net (Michael Aust)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 01:29:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] USPS shipping rates for non USA
Message-ID: <1377360103.1761840.1434072596344.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

I sold a Remote Rig's RRC-1258MKII pair to a Canada Ham andgot stiffed for the postage on my end, way too expensive, anyway gave up on sending or selling anything to Canada Hams anymorevia USPS
73 Mike?
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:28:30 -0400
From: Michael Babineau <mbabineau at magma.ca>
To:?elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] USPS shipping rates for non USA
Message-ID: <1F3F2C76-7CDC-4A69-96DD-9DBF52DE46F4 at magma.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

When did the International USPS shipping rates go out the roof ????

I just ordered a noise blanker for my K2 (~$USD60 ) and the cheapest shipping to Canada via USPS came up as $USD38 !?

Yikes ? that almost doubles the cost !? I don?t remember the rates being this bad the last time I ordered an add-on to my K2 .. did something change recently with
US Post ??

Michael VE3WMB?


From mfanning at hiwaay.net  Thu Jun 11 22:18:11 2015
From: mfanning at hiwaay.net (Mike Fanning)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:18:11 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 noise on receiver when switching from transmit
In-Reply-To: <5578213A.5090604@w3fpr.com>
References: <70386CA5-87BA-447A-A932-CD258E8C4B20@hiwaay.net>	<5577B469.50001@embarqmail.com>
	<B7D79567-775B-418F-8680-7E18536D76B5@hiwaay.net>
	<5578213A.5090604@w3fpr.com>
Message-ID: <7BA4397E-A55D-4E1E-B479-466F4194860C@hiwaay.net>

Don, your question is valid but I?m afraid I don?t have a good answer.  I honestly don?t know if this is a recent occurrence or if it has always been there because I have practically no run time on the KPA100 since I built it.  I have put the KDSP2 in bypass and that does fix the problem, as long as I am not running full QSK.  In other words, if I add 10ms or more worth of t-r delay, I don?t hear the popping with the KDSP2 bypassed.  The receiver will pop if t-r delay is set to zero, but that?s probably par for the course.  I have not done any sniffing around on the diodes, but that will be next on my to do list after Field Day.  Thank you again for your help, and please let me know if you have any other suggestions or insight.

73,
Mike, K4GU


On Jun 10, 2015, at 6:36 AM, Don Wilhelm <don at w3fpr.com> wrote:

> Mike,
> 
> With the blue toroids, you do have the updated KPA100.  Can I assume that this problem is a recent occurrence rather than a problem that has always been there?
> 
> Yes, removing and jumpering out the KDSP2 will likely stop it (or just try putting it in bypass), but that is not the source of the real problem, it is just the source of the 'pop'.
> I would suggest digging into the KPA100 a bit.  Lay the KPA100 on its 'back' on a book or box to the right of the K2, remove the shield and make the diode voltage measurements.  Hopefully that will reveal an anomaly.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> 
> On 6/10/2015 12:45 AM, Mike Fanning wrote:
>> Thanks for the quick reply Don!  I checked the 8R setting and it was indeed set to hold (and is set there again after toggling it to make sure).  I do have the KDSP2 option with the KPA100, but after peeling off the right side panel I see two baby blue toroids.  The K2 is serial number is 5882 and it was purchased in December 2006.  The KPA100 was bought at Dayton in 2009.  I think it took me another year to get around to building it, so it was probably buttoned up about 5 years ago and has been the backup/receive only rig since doing all the alignment checks.  This will be the first time I have really done any transmitting with it since adding the KPA100 (I?ll make sure to revisit the PA screws as instructed).  You have given me something else to check though - I need to pull the KDSP2 and see if that affects the problem.  I?m wondering if there were other upgrades to either the K2 or KDSP2 that might affect this as well?
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 


From dk5ya at dk5ya.de  Fri Jun 12 03:52:39 2015
From: dk5ya at dk5ya.de (Udo Langenohl - DK5YA)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 09:52:39 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
In-Reply-To: <049712F279CC4AC68430F5D4E6F50B9A@ejhPC>
References: <E25DA2C9776B40B197C2F8EF21F579B0@ejhPC>	<5579EB93.6020005@audiosystemsgroup.com>	<D609590B6D98401E838E120D7EBD45F0@ejhPC>
	<049712F279CC4AC68430F5D4E6F50B9A@ejhPC>
Message-ID: <557A8FC7.2040708@dk5ya.de>

Lucky you are, Emory. I've orderend a KXV3B replacement almost 3 weeks 
ago at Elecraft since my former KXV3A has issues with the pin diodes. 
Unfortunately I've heard nothing from Elecraft since. I've got my order 
confirmation immediately, item on stock, usually sent within 1-5 days. 
Silence. Asked 2 times by email, no reply. That never happened before 
with Elecraft and I'm some sort of pissed recently because I'm sittin' 
here with a deaf KXV3A that bothers my EME work on 144.

I'm I alone or am I black listed?

Strange, '73 Udo, DK5YA

Am 12.06.2015 um 02:06 schrieb ejkkjh at gmail.com:
> One more quick follow-up.
> The new KXV3B works great, especially on 6 meters and just in time for
> this weekends contest.
> Thanks again... 73
> Emory  WM3M
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: ejkkjh at gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 7:23 PM
> To: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com ; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
>
> Thanks to Jim and Drew for the help.
> I talked to Elecraft support.
> I tried bending the pins, loosening the side and back panels, pins were
> just
> too long.  With the KXV3B lined up and in position, and with the pins
> behind
> the header, the pins touched the main board.
> Support said it was ok to cut the pins so I cut tiny bits off till it would
> go in the header.
> If the back was off it would probably go in easily but just too many little
> screws, nuts etc. to do that.
> Also, I think it would help if there was an instruction sheet just for us
> who upgrade from the KXV3A/KXV3.
> Now to load the new firmware..  thanks and 73
> Emory  WM3M
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Jim Brown
> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 4:12 PM
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
>
> On Thu,6/11/2015 12:11 PM, ejkkjh at gmail.com wrote:
>> Having problems with install of the KXV3B upgrading from a KXV3A.
>> The pins are two long on the KXV3B, with BNC connectors up as far as
>> they will go in the rear slot?
>> I tried putting the pins in tilting the board with the BNC connectors
>> not out of the slot, it was too much of an angle, they will not go in?
>> I guess I can cut the pins shorter on the KXV3B but wanted to check on
>> that first.
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> I also had a very hard time with it, and ended up driving down to the
> factory to let them do it. They let me watch the bench tech, who had it
> installed in a few seconds.
>
> I had to do my second K3, so I had him show me. There are three keys to
> doing it, for me, at least.
>
> 1) in addition removing the top cover, also remove the side panel. It
> makes it much easier to see when the pins are aligned with the socket,
> and to get your fingers in there.
>
> 2) Begin by bending the pins slightly with a good pair of long
> needle-nose pliers (toward the rear panel. It doesn't take much -- 10-15
> degrees at most.
>
> 3) Now, insert the BNC connectors through the opening. If you've bent
> the pins enough, they'll be close enough to the socket that you can push
> them in to mate. If you haven't bent the pins, they will be on the front
> side of the socket.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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From plcmark at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 10:02:53 2015
From: plcmark at gmail.com (Mark Bayern)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 09:02:53 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
In-Reply-To: <557A8FC7.2040708@dk5ya.de>
References: <E25DA2C9776B40B197C2F8EF21F579B0@ejhPC>
	<5579EB93.6020005@audiosystemsgroup.com>
	<D609590B6D98401E838E120D7EBD45F0@ejhPC>
	<049712F279CC4AC68430F5D4E6F50B9A@ejhPC>
	<557A8FC7.2040708@dk5ya.de>
Message-ID: <CAKOKdP+eow+0-OUUypmzkKdC4Txbh4fPT4d3Wv+s0+Rj7rV5Rw@mail.gmail.com>

> I'm I alone or am I black listed?

I really doubt you're blacklisted, but you are not alone. Check your
spam filter. Has your email system decided that the Elecraft reply was
spam?

Mark AD5SS

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:52 AM, Udo Langenohl - DK5YA <dk5ya at dk5ya.de> wrote:
> Lucky you are, Emory. I've orderend a KXV3B replacement almost 3 weeks ago
> at Elecraft since my former KXV3A has issues with the pin diodes.
> Unfortunately I've heard nothing from Elecraft since. I've got my order
> confirmation immediately, item on stock, usually sent within 1-5 days.
> Silence. Asked 2 times by email, no reply. That never happened before with
> Elecraft and I'm some sort of pissed recently because I'm sittin' here with
> a deaf KXV3A that bothers my EME work on 144.
>
> I'm I alone or am I black listed?
>
> Strange, '73 Udo, DK5YA
>

From dk5ya at dk5ya.de  Fri Jun 12 03:43:58 2015
From: dk5ya at dk5ya.de (Udo Langenohl - DK5YA)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 09:43:58 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] [SPAM?] Re:  K3 KXV3B install problems
In-Reply-To: <049712F279CC4AC68430F5D4E6F50B9A@ejhPC>
References: <E25DA2C9776B40B197C2F8EF21F579B0@ejhPC>	<5579EB93.6020005@audiosystemsgroup.com>	<D609590B6D98401E838E120D7EBD45F0@ejhPC>
	<049712F279CC4AC68430F5D4E6F50B9A@ejhPC>
Message-ID: <557A8DBE.8090207@dk5ya.de>

Lucky you are, Emory. I've orderend a KXV3B replacement almost 3 weeks 
ago at Elecraft since my former KXV3A has issues with the pin diodes. 
Unfortunately I've heard nothing from Elecraft since. I've got my order 
confirmation immediately, item on stock, usually sent within 1-5 days. 
Silence. Asked 2 times by email, no reply. That never happened before 
with Elecraft and I'm some sort of pissed recently because I'm sittin' 
here with a deaf KXV3A that bothers my EME work on 144.

I'm I alone or am I black listed?

Strange, '73 Udo, DK5YA

Am 12.06.2015 um 02:06 schrieb ejkkjh at gmail.com:
> One more quick follow-up.
> The new KXV3B works great, especially on 6 meters and just in time for
> this weekends contest.
> Thanks again... 73
> Emory  WM3M
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: ejkkjh at gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 7:23 PM
> To: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com ; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
>
> Thanks to Jim and Drew for the help.
> I talked to Elecraft support.
> I tried bending the pins, loosening the side and back panels, pins were
> just
> too long.  With the KXV3B lined up and in position, and with the pins
> behind
> the header, the pins touched the main board.
> Support said it was ok to cut the pins so I cut tiny bits off till it would
> go in the header.
> If the back was off it would probably go in easily but just too many little
> screws, nuts etc. to do that.
> Also, I think it would help if there was an instruction sheet just for us
> who upgrade from the KXV3A/KXV3.
> Now to load the new firmware..  thanks and 73
> Emory  WM3M
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Jim Brown
> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 4:12 PM
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
>
> On Thu,6/11/2015 12:11 PM, ejkkjh at gmail.com wrote:
>> Having problems with install of the KXV3B upgrading from a KXV3A.
>> The pins are two long on the KXV3B, with BNC connectors up as far as
>> they will go in the rear slot?
>> I tried putting the pins in tilting the board with the BNC connectors
>> not out of the slot, it was too much of an angle, they will not go in?
>> I guess I can cut the pins shorter on the KXV3B but wanted to check on
>> that first.
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> I also had a very hard time with it, and ended up driving down to the
> factory to let them do it. They let me watch the bench tech, who had it
> installed in a few seconds.
>
> I had to do my second K3, so I had him show me. There are three keys to
> doing it, for me, at least.
>
> 1) in addition removing the top cover, also remove the side panel. It
> makes it much easier to see when the pins are aligned with the socket,
> and to get your fingers in there.
>
> 2) Begin by bending the pins slightly with a good pair of long
> needle-nose pliers (toward the rear panel. It doesn't take much -- 10-15
> degrees at most.
>
> 3) Now, insert the BNC connectors through the opening. If you've bent
> the pins enough, they'll be close enough to the socket that you can push
> them in to mate. If you haven't bent the pins, they will be on the front
> side of the socket.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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From ejkkjh at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 12:46:39 2015
From: ejkkjh at gmail.com (ejkkjh at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 12:46:39 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3A for sale
Message-ID: <56E43EB1F27D4DD1ADA9816F4C8EBBB8@ejhPC>

KXV3A for sale, perfect shape, light use.
Includes cover panel, mounting screws, and cable if needed.
$95 shipped conus
Contact off line  wm3m at live dot com
Thank you 73
Emory  WM3M

From kl7uw at acsalaska.net  Fri Jun 12 13:24:30 2015
From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 09:24:30 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] USPS shipping rates for non USA
Message-ID: <201506121725.t5CHPJGa002741@mail41c28.carrierzone.com>

My experience with using on-line USPS shipping to Canada was the reverse.

I had a 20x20x6 inch package that weighs 23-lb. and on-line shipping 
came to $125.  My customer in Ontario balked at that and I don't 
blame him.  Only international priority mail is available.

I sent the same package to NJ via parcel post for $39.  But then 
while in the PO I asked what the rate for that same package would be 
to Canada and the 6-10 day priority mail quote was $81.50.  This rate 
was not shown on-line.

The high cost of shipping has me discontinuing trying to sell 
19x17x12 inch aluminum cabinet parts that I remove from old TV 
translators because I am only making $10 of the $50 I charge.  Out of 
that I have to purchase 20x20x12 inch cartons, bubble wrap and PaPal 
deducts 3% of the $50 I receive...I'm lucky if I do not loose 
money.  It takes an hour to dismantle and package each one.

I ship DEMI transverters to UK&EU which costs $76.50 and can take up 
to 20-days (not including time in customs). I'm sure that I have lost 
some potential business due the shipping costs.  This is the penalty 
for living in Alaska.

I have lots of good surplus stuff that will not sell due to 
shipping.  Most will go to recycle or the dump.
http://www.kl7uw.com/fs.htm

73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
     "Kits made by KL7UW"
Dubus Mag business:
     dubususa at gmail.com


From phils at riousa.com  Fri Jun 12 14:28:16 2015
From: phils at riousa.com (Phil Shepard)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 11:28:16 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] SSB net; I need help.
Message-ID: <39B9F25E-F57F-4CBE-9A14-51C4A022F204@riousa.com>

I regret to tell you that illness is making my running of the Sunday SSB net difficult.  I need someone to step up and take over, at least for now.  It?s fun and not hard.

Who is interested?

73,
Phil, NS7P

From n6kr at elecraft.com  Fri Jun 12 14:08:40 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 11:08:40 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
In-Reply-To: <557A8FC7.2040708@dk5ya.de>
References: <E25DA2C9776B40B197C2F8EF21F579B0@ejhPC>	<5579EB93.6020005@audiosystemsgroup.com>	<D609590B6D98401E838E120D7EBD45F0@ejhPC>
	<049712F279CC4AC68430F5D4E6F50B9A@ejhPC>
	<557A8FC7.2040708@dk5ya.de>
Message-ID: <95285111-C91E-4935-8F59-A84920E1D55D@elecraft.com>

Hi Udo,

No one would ever be "black listed," etc. We're just ramping up on multiple products and options simultaneously, and there may be some minor delays on specific items. 

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jun 12, 2015, at 12:52 AM, Udo Langenohl - DK5YA <dk5ya at dk5ya.de> wrote:

> Lucky you are, Emory. I've orderend a KXV3B replacement almost 3 weeks ago at Elecraft since my former KXV3A has issues with the pin diodes. Unfortunately I've heard nothing from Elecraft since. I've got my order confirmation immediately, item on stock, usually sent within 1-5 days. Silence. Asked 2 times by email, no reply. That never happened before with Elecraft and I'm some sort of pissed recently because I'm sittin' here with a deaf KXV3A that bothers my EME work on 144.
> 
> I'm I alone or am I black listed?
> 
> Strange, '73 Udo, DK5YA
> 
> Am 12.06.2015 um 02:06 schrieb ejkkjh at gmail.com:
>> One more quick follow-up.
>> The new KXV3B works great, especially on 6 meters and just in time for
>> this weekends contest.
>> Thanks again... 73
>> Emory  WM3M
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: ejkkjh at gmail.com
>> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 7:23 PM
>> To: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com ; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
>> 
>> Thanks to Jim and Drew for the help.
>> I talked to Elecraft support.
>> I tried bending the pins, loosening the side and back panels, pins were
>> just
>> too long.  With the KXV3B lined up and in position, and with the pins
>> behind
>> the header, the pins touched the main board.
>> Support said it was ok to cut the pins so I cut tiny bits off till it would
>> go in the header.
>> If the back was off it would probably go in easily but just too many little
>> screws, nuts etc. to do that.
>> Also, I think it would help if there was an instruction sheet just for us
>> who upgrade from the KXV3A/KXV3.
>> Now to load the new firmware..  thanks and 73
>> Emory  WM3M
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Jim Brown
>> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 4:12 PM
>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
>> 
>> On Thu,6/11/2015 12:11 PM, ejkkjh at gmail.com wrote:
>>> Having problems with install of the KXV3B upgrading from a KXV3A.
>>> The pins are two long on the KXV3B, with BNC connectors up as far as
>>> they will go in the rear slot?
>>> I tried putting the pins in tilting the board with the BNC connectors
>>> not out of the slot, it was too much of an angle, they will not go in?
>>> I guess I can cut the pins shorter on the KXV3B but wanted to check on
>>> that first.
>>> Any help would be appreciated.
>> 
>> I also had a very hard time with it, and ended up driving down to the
>> factory to let them do it. They let me watch the bench tech, who had it
>> installed in a few seconds.
>> 
>> I had to do my second K3, so I had him show me. There are three keys to
>> doing it, for me, at least.
>> 
>> 1) in addition removing the top cover, also remove the side panel. It
>> makes it much easier to see when the pins are aligned with the socket,
>> and to get your fingers in there.
>> 
>> 2) Begin by bending the pins slightly with a good pair of long
>> needle-nose pliers (toward the rear panel. It doesn't take much -- 10-15
>> degrees at most.
>> 
>> 3) Now, insert the BNC connectors through the opening. If you've bent
>> the pins enough, they'll be close enough to the socket that you can push
>> them in to mate. If you haven't bent the pins, they will be on the front
>> side of the socket.
>> 
>> 73, Jim K9YC
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From fptownsend at earthlink.net  Fri Jun 12 14:42:24 2015
From: fptownsend at earthlink.net (Fred Townsend)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 11:42:24 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
Message-ID: <16485425.1434134545041.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


Wayne I realize you are a small company but you cast a big shadow. We are like the six year old that is told he has to wait to Christmas to open the packages. Can't wait.
73, Fred, AE6QL

-----Original Message-----
>From: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
>Sent: Jun 12, 2015 11:08 AM
>To: Udo Langenohl - DK5YA <dk5ya at dk5ya.de>
>Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
>
>Hi Udo,
>
>No one would ever be "black listed," etc. We're just ramping up on multiple products and options simultaneously, and there may be some minor delays on specific items. 
>
>73,
>Wayne
>N6KR
>
>
>On Jun 12, 2015, at 12:52 AM, Udo Langenohl - DK5YA <dk5ya at dk5ya.de> wrote:
>
>> Lucky you are, Emory. I've orderend a KXV3B replacement almost 3 weeks ago at Elecraft since my former KXV3A has issues with the pin diodes. Unfortunately I've heard nothing from Elecraft since. I've got my order confirmation immediately, item on stock, usually sent within 1-5 days. Silence. Asked 2 times by email, no reply. That never happened before with Elecraft and I'm some sort of pissed recently because I'm sittin' here with a deaf KXV3A that bothers my EME work on 144.
>> 
>> I'm I alone or am I black listed?
>> 
>> Strange, '73 Udo, DK5YA
>> 
>> Am 12.06.2015 um 02:06 schrieb ejkkjh at gmail.com:
>>> One more quick follow-up.
>>> The new KXV3B works great, especially on 6 meters and just in time for
>>> this weekends contest.
>>> Thanks again... 73
>>> Emory  WM3M
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: ejkkjh at gmail.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 7:23 PM
>>> To: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com ; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
>>> 
>>> Thanks to Jim and Drew for the help.
>>> I talked to Elecraft support.
>>> I tried bending the pins, loosening the side and back panels, pins were
>>> just
>>> too long.  With the KXV3B lined up and in position, and with the pins
>>> behind
>>> the header, the pins touched the main board.
>>> Support said it was ok to cut the pins so I cut tiny bits off till it would
>>> go in the header.
>>> If the back was off it would probably go in easily but just too many little
>>> screws, nuts etc. to do that.
>>> Also, I think it would help if there was an instruction sheet just for us
>>> who upgrade from the KXV3A/KXV3.
>>> Now to load the new firmware..  thanks and 73
>>> Emory  WM3M
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jim Brown
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 4:12 PM
>>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
>>> 
>>> On Thu,6/11/2015 12:11 PM, ejkkjh at gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Having problems with install of the KXV3B upgrading from a KXV3A.
>>>> The pins are two long on the KXV3B, with BNC connectors up as far as
>>>> they will go in the rear slot?
>>>> I tried putting the pins in tilting the board with the BNC connectors
>>>> not out of the slot, it was too much of an angle, they will not go in?
>>>> I guess I can cut the pins shorter on the KXV3B but wanted to check on
>>>> that first.
>>>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> I also had a very hard time with it, and ended up driving down to the
>>> factory to let them do it. They let me watch the bench tech, who had it
>>> installed in a few seconds.
>>> 
>>> I had to do my second K3, so I had him show me. There are three keys to
>>> doing it, for me, at least.
>>> 
>>> 1) in addition removing the top cover, also remove the side panel. It
>>> makes it much easier to see when the pins are aligned with the socket,
>>> and to get your fingers in there.
>>> 
>>> 2) Begin by bending the pins slightly with a good pair of long
>>> needle-nose pliers (toward the rear panel. It doesn't take much -- 10-15
>>> degrees at most.
>>> 
>>> 3) Now, insert the BNC connectors through the opening. If you've bent
>>> the pins enough, they'll be close enough to the socket that you can push
>>> them in to mate. If you haven't bent the pins, they will be on the front
>>> side of the socket.
>>> 
>>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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From davidahrendts at me.com  Fri Jun 12 14:48:01 2015
From: davidahrendts at me.com (David Ahrendts)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 11:48:01 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] SSB net; I need help.
In-Reply-To: <39B9F25E-F57F-4CBE-9A14-51C4A022F204@riousa.com>
References: <39B9F25E-F57F-4CBE-9A14-51C4A022F204@riousa.com>
Message-ID: <53AE3F80-0FD4-4A58-9EA3-A29544BEE760@me.com>

Phil, I would be happy to assist someone else a little more experienced from my LA perch. 

David A., KC0XT

> On Jun 12, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Phil Shepard <phils at riousa.com> wrote:
> 
> I regret to tell you that illness is making my running of the Sunday SSB net difficult.  I need someone to step up and take over, at least for now.  It?s fun and not hard.
> 
> Who is interested?
> 
> 73,
> Phil, NS7P
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From km4ik.ian at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 14:51:41 2015
From: km4ik.ian at gmail.com (Ian Kahn)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 14:51:41 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] SSB net; I need help.
In-Reply-To: <39B9F25E-F57F-4CBE-9A14-51C4A022F204@riousa.com>
References: <39B9F25E-F57F-4CBE-9A14-51C4A022F204@riousa.com>
Message-ID: <CAFHjwP4=smZdAhA3ucGjQnTipD+zAFEx53kHGcR3_g6DXEN2rQ@mail.gmail.com>

Phil,

Let me see if I'm available this weekend and next. I already know I'm
unavailable Field Day weekend.

Speedy recovery to you.

73 de,

Ian, KM4IK
On Jun 12, 2015 2:30 PM, "Phil Shepard" <phils at riousa.com> wrote:

> I regret to tell you that illness is making my running of the Sunday SSB
> net difficult.  I need someone to step up and take over, at least for now.
> It?s fun and not hard.
>
> Who is interested?
>
> 73,
> Phil, NS7P
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From dk5ya at dk5ya.de  Fri Jun 12 15:10:56 2015
From: dk5ya at dk5ya.de (Udo Langenohl - DK5YA)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 21:10:56 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
In-Reply-To: <16485425.1434134545041.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <16485425.1434134545041.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <557B2EC0.9000003@dk5ya.de>

Item is en route since June 10, says Elecraft via support desk. Keeping 
my fingers crossed. For whatever reason I never got the shipping 
notification. No junk sorted out, strange. Cristmas eve is close :-).

Udo, DK5YA

Am 12.06.2015 um 20:42 schrieb Fred Townsend:
>
> Wayne I realize you are a small company but you cast a big shadow. We are like the six year old that is told he has to wait to Christmas to open the packages. Can't wait.
> 73, Fred, AE6QL
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
>> Sent: Jun 12, 2015 11:08 AM
>> To: Udo Langenohl - DK5YA <dk5ya at dk5ya.de>
>> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
>>
>> Hi Udo,
>>
>> No one would ever be "black listed," etc. We're just ramping up on multiple products and options simultaneously, and there may be some minor delays on specific items.
>>
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>>
>> On Jun 12, 2015, at 12:52 AM, Udo Langenohl - DK5YA <dk5ya at dk5ya.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Lucky you are, Emory. I've orderend a KXV3B replacement almost 3 weeks ago at Elecraft since my former KXV3A has issues with the pin diodes. Unfortunately I've heard nothing from Elecraft since. I've got my order confirmation immediately, item on stock, usually sent within 1-5 days. Silence. Asked 2 times by email, no reply. That never happened before with Elecraft and I'm some sort of pissed recently because I'm sittin' here with a deaf KXV3A that bothers my EME work on 144.
>>>
>>> I'm I alone or am I black listed?
>>>
>>> Strange, '73 Udo, DK5YA
>>>
>>> Am 12.06.2015 um 02:06 schrieb ejkkjh at gmail.com:
>>>> One more quick follow-up.
>>>> The new KXV3B works great, especially on 6 meters and just in time for
>>>> this weekends contest.
>>>> Thanks again... 73
>>>> Emory  WM3M
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: ejkkjh at gmail.com
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 7:23 PM
>>>> To: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com ; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to Jim and Drew for the help.
>>>> I talked to Elecraft support.
>>>> I tried bending the pins, loosening the side and back panels, pins were
>>>> just
>>>> too long.  With the KXV3B lined up and in position, and with the pins
>>>> behind
>>>> the header, the pins touched the main board.
>>>> Support said it was ok to cut the pins so I cut tiny bits off till it would
>>>> go in the header.
>>>> If the back was off it would probably go in easily but just too many little
>>>> screws, nuts etc. to do that.
>>>> Also, I think it would help if there was an instruction sheet just for us
>>>> who upgrade from the KXV3A/KXV3.
>>>> Now to load the new firmware..  thanks and 73
>>>> Emory  WM3M
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jim Brown
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 4:12 PM
>>>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
>>>>
>>>> On Thu,6/11/2015 12:11 PM, ejkkjh at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> Having problems with install of the KXV3B upgrading from a KXV3A.
>>>>> The pins are two long on the KXV3B, with BNC connectors up as far as
>>>>> they will go in the rear slot?
>>>>> I tried putting the pins in tilting the board with the BNC connectors
>>>>> not out of the slot, it was too much of an angle, they will not go in?
>>>>> I guess I can cut the pins shorter on the KXV3B but wanted to check on
>>>>> that first.
>>>>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> I also had a very hard time with it, and ended up driving down to the
>>>> factory to let them do it. They let me watch the bench tech, who had it
>>>> installed in a few seconds.
>>>>
>>>> I had to do my second K3, so I had him show me. There are three keys to
>>>> doing it, for me, at least.
>>>>
>>>> 1) in addition removing the top cover, also remove the side panel. It
>>>> makes it much easier to see when the pins are aligned with the socket,
>>>> and to get your fingers in there.
>>>>
>>>> 2) Begin by bending the pins slightly with a good pair of long
>>>> needle-nose pliers (toward the rear panel. It doesn't take much -- 10-15
>>>> degrees at most.
>>>>
>>>> 3) Now, insert the BNC connectors through the opening. If you've bent
>>>> the pins enough, they'll be close enough to the socket that you can push
>>>> them in to mate. If you haven't bent the pins, they will be on the front
>>>> side of the socket.
>>>>
>>>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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From w2blc at nycap.rr.com  Fri Jun 12 15:43:59 2015
From: w2blc at nycap.rr.com (Bill)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 15:43:59 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - HRD rig control
Message-ID: <557B367F.6040600@nycap.rr.com>

I have asked this question previously, and ask again - as updating and 
improving of HRD is an ongoing process.

Have improvements in HRD rig control of the K3 been made that would make 
HRD a recommended buy? Previously, various rig controls were not 
available through HRD and some controls on screen did properly indicate 
selection.

Without taking too much bandwidth - have there been significant 
improvements in HRD rig control of the K3? I am still using an old 
"free" version.

Please note, I am only interested in rig control - not anything else 
that HRD does.

Thanks,

Bill W2BLC K-Line


From w7ox at socal.rr.com  Fri Jun 12 15:58:16 2015
From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 12:58:16 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
In-Reply-To: <557B2EC0.9000003@dk5ya.de>
References: <16485425.1434134545041.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<557B2EC0.9000003@dk5ya.de>
Message-ID: <557B39D8.8010500@socal.rr.com>

Udo, I often have things arrive from Elecraft 
without having received a shipping notice.

Seems odd, but not to worry :-)

73, Phil W7OX

On 6/12/15 12:10 PM, Udo Langenohl - DK5YA wrote:
> Item is en route since June 10, says Elecraft 
> via support desk. Keeping my fingers crossed. 
> For whatever reason I never got the shipping 
> notification. No junk sorted out, strange. 
> Cristmas eve is close :-).
>
> Udo, DK5YA


From w7ox at socal.rr.com  Fri Jun 12 15:59:45 2015
From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 12:59:45 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
In-Reply-To: <16485425.1434134545041.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <16485425.1434134545041.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <557B3A31.4010306@socal.rr.com>

Big shadow is better than one of those dark 
clouds, Fred :-)

Phil W7OX

On 6/12/15 11:42 AM, Fred Townsend wrote:
> Wayne I realize you are a small company but you cast a big shadow. We are like the six year old that is told he has to wait to Christmas to open the packages. Can't wait.
> 73, Fred, AE6QL
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
>> Sent: Jun 12, 2015 11:08 AM
>> To: Udo Langenohl - DK5YA <dk5ya at dk5ya.de>
>> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
>>
>> Hi Udo,
>>
>> No one would ever be "black listed," etc. We're just ramping up on multiple products and options simultaneously, and there may be some minor delays on specific items.
>>
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR


From tomb18 at videotron.ca  Fri Jun 12 16:01:02 2015
From: tomb18 at videotron.ca (Tom)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 16:01:02 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] New release of Win4K3Suite now has preliminary support
 for the K3S
Message-ID: <9057CC0EDFAE4BD6964E8B96A7CB3F09@tomsPC>

Hello,
The latest release of Win4K3Suite (version 1.754) has a number of fixes and adds support for the new Elecraft K3S.
The K3S support provides preliminary support of the newer preamp.
In addition there have been a number of bug fixes and enhancements.

Win4K3Suite is a comprehensive software package that integrates the K3 and K3S with the KPA500, KAT500, and support the P3 and LPPAN.  It includes a built in spectrum scope that works with the KX3 and LPPAN.  Win4K3Suite has a built in software router that allows full integration with any third party product including but not limited to HRD Logbook and DM780, DXLabs Suite, Log4OM, N1MM Contest logging, WSJT-X and many more.
You can see the software in action here: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=va2fsq
The software has a fully functioning 30 day trial which you can download at va2fsq.com.  If you have evaluated the software in the past and would like another evaluation code, please feel free to contact me.
73, Tom
va2fsq.com

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From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Fri Jun 12 16:44:54 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (pkhjr via Elecraft)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 13:44:54 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - HRD rig control
In-Reply-To: <557B367F.6040600@nycap.rr.com>
References: <557B367F.6040600@nycap.rr.com>
Message-ID: <1434141894136-7603953.post@n2.nabble.com>

If you are only interested rig control, Win4K3 will do the job very well.  I
use HRD for logging only and Win4K3 for rig control works FB.  I may try a
free logging program and drop HRD as I feel they will be charging for
upgrades regularly.

Tex
ka5y



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From k3ndm at comcast.net  Fri Jun 12 17:16:12 2015
From: k3ndm at comcast.net (Barry LaZar)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 17:16:12 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - HRD rig control
In-Reply-To: <1434141894136-7603953.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <557B367F.6040600@nycap.rr.com>
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Message-ID: <557B4C1C.1000402@comcast.net>

Tex,
      You are correct. HRD does require an annual fee for upgrades, but 
once you have it, it continues to work whether your subscription runs 
out or not.

     I do as you. I use Win4K3 with HRD, but I also run CW Skimmer at 
the same time and using the same I&Q data you use for the pan display. 
It's an awesome package when it's all up. I wouldn't drop HRD if what y 
ou have is working FB for you now.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

On 6/12/2015 4:44 PM, pkhjr via Elecraft wrote:
> If you are only interested rig control, Win4K3 will do the job very well.  I
> use HRD for logging only and Win4K3 for rig control works FB.  I may try a
> free logging program and drop HRD as I feel they will be charging for
> upgrades regularly.
>
> Tex
> ka5y
>
>
>
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From g1mhu at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 12 17:36:42 2015
From: g1mhu at hotmail.com (Robin Moseley)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 22:36:42 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - HRD rig control
In-Reply-To: <557B4C1C.1000402@comcast.net>
References: <557B367F.6040600@nycap.rr.com><1434141894136-7603953.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<557B4C1C.1000402@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <DUB112-DS44A1433D519A89ABAD515AE9BB0@phx.gbl>

Hi ,
I will be working for HRD as a European support guy.

The way it works  is .. you try HRD for 30 days for free.
If you like it, you pay once only  for the version you tried  and for 
upgrades for 12 months, you also get customer support from 3 dedicated 
support guys and developers.
If you are happy with the version you are running, and don't need support or 
updates, then  you don't need to keep paying,  you have bought the license 
for the software.

If you decide that you want the full features of the latest versions, 
support for new radios, windows operating systems etc, country list updates 
and another 12 months of the support team, then it is half the original 
purchase price per year.. so that is just under $50.

Robin G1MHU




From john.turgoose at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 19:32:10 2015
From: john.turgoose at gmail.com (VE3NFK)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 16:32:10 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - HRD rig control
In-Reply-To: <DUB112-DS44A1433D519A89ABAD515AE9BB0@phx.gbl>
References: <557B367F.6040600@nycap.rr.com>
	<1434141894136-7603953.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<557B4C1C.1000402@comcast.net>
	<DUB112-DS44A1433D519A89ABAD515AE9BB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1434151930277-7603956.post@n2.nabble.com>

Check out TRX-Manager  30 day trial  and one-time purchase 3 yr support..

full feature control of K3, KX3 and most other rigs; most rotators, SteppIR,
logging, and much more...
been around a long time and regularly improved by Laurent.

http://trx-manager.com/index.html  

sold by PDA in USA 
http://www.hosenose.com/TRX-Manager/trx-manager_features.aspx 
 and integrates with Logic if you want.

73  John VE3NFK

disclaimer  - long time alpha /beta tester



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From b.bill.p at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 01:51:40 2015
From: b.bill.p at gmail.com (BillP)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 22:51:40 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 2 Meters, No power output
Message-ID: <CBB08283-979E-4B18-BA42-1C8F118B6911@gmail.com>

KX-3 Serial number 2517
Internal or external battery power, same condition.
HF SSB/CW/Digital operation is Fine 

No 2 meter RF output on any mode.
I've carefully followed the 2 meter module installation instructions and firmware settings, loaded the latest software as of Friday AM (and again) and cannot measure 2 meter RF at the SMA connector using verified coax and VHF SWR bridge. The power control displays 3 watts but the 'tune' mode displays .1 watt (?).    CW, FM, SSB RF does not register on the VHF SWR/Power meter (10 watt setting) however I can hear my CW/FM/SSB signal in a nearby receiver.  Receive works fine and all modes on HF work fine.  I'm anxious to get this going for the VHF contest.  

Bill K6ACJ

Sent from my iPad


From stewart at twinwood.me  Sat Jun 13 03:30:17 2015
From: stewart at twinwood.me (Stewart)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 08:30:17 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - HRD rig control
In-Reply-To: <1434151930277-7603956.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <201561383017.850505@Shack>

A really good software "Swiss Knife"...

73
Stewart G3RXQ

A satisfied long term user.

On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 16:32:10 -0700 (MST), VE3NFK wrote:
> Check out TRX-Manager  30 day trial  and one-time purchase 3 yr support..
>
> full feature control of K3, KX3 and most other rigs; most rotators, SteppIR,
> logging, and much more...
> been around a long time and regularly improved by Laurent.
>
> http://trx-manager.com/index.html
>
> sold by PDA in USA
> http://www.hosenose.com/TRX-Manager/trx-manager_features.aspx
> and integrates with Logic if you want.
>
> 73  John VE3NFK
>
> disclaimer  - long time alpha /beta tester
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: 
http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-HRD-rig-control-tp7603949p7603956.html
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From vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk  Sat Jun 13 04:07:14 2015
From: vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk (Johnny Siu)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 08:07:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] OT-FS; KFL3B-FM filter in box
Message-ID: <10373393.1353817.1434182834872.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

 Hello Group,
I find myself does not operate FM. Therefore, this KFL3B-FM (still in box) is surplus to my requirement.
I like to sell it at USD119 including shipping by registered airmail to CONUS, major cities in Europe and Australia.
If you are interested, please reply off-the-list to vr2xmc at yahoo dot com dot hk
Thanks for the bandwidth here and apologies for the QRM.
73
Johnny VR2XMC

From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jun 13 04:14:07 2015
From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 09:14:07 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 2 Meters, No power output
In-Reply-To: <CBB08283-979E-4B18-BA42-1C8F118B6911@gmail.com>
References: <CBB08283-979E-4B18-BA42-1C8F118B6911@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FEB206C4-8A01-43D1-A51E-1B672F94CAEB@yahoo.co.uk>

Bill, 

I have noticed your postings on this matter for sometime and am surprised that nobody has replied (at least publicly). Unfortunately I do not have the internal 2m transverter for my KX3 so cannot  help you. It does sound like a hardware problem doesn't it? Not having installed one, I am unaware of the complexities and if there are any particular points to watch out for.

Have you attempted to contact Elecraft support directly either by email or telephone? I hear that they are excellent and would be able to guide you better.

There were a number of beta testers of the 2m module, I am surprised none of them has chipped in with a little help.  Can anyone help Bill?

Hope that you get this resolved and do let us know the solution.


73

David Anderson GM4JJJ 

> On 13 Jun 2015, at 06:51, BillP <b.bill.p at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> KX-3 Serial number 2517
> Internal or external battery power, same condition.
> HF SSB/CW/Digital operation is Fine 
> 
> No 2 meter RF output on any mode.
> I've carefully followed the 2 meter module installation instructions and firmware settings, loaded the latest software as of Friday AM (and again) and cannot measure 2 meter RF at the SMA connector using verified coax and VHF SWR bridge. The power control displays 3 watts but the 'tune' mode displays .1 watt (?).    CW, FM, SSB RF does not register on the VHF SWR/Power meter (10 watt setting) however I can hear my CW/FM/SSB signal in a nearby receiver.  Receive works fine and all modes on HF work fine.  I'm anxious to get this going for the VHF contest.  
> 
> Bill K6ACJ
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
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From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk  Sat Jun 13 04:18:21 2015
From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 09:18:21 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 2 Meters, No power output
In-Reply-To: <CBB08283-979E-4B18-BA42-1C8F118B6911@gmail.com>
References: <CBB08283-979E-4B18-BA42-1C8F118B6911@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F0C95401-D8AF-413F-B2F9-13C3E533DA7A@yahoo.co.uk>

Bill,  I found this info from an earlier posting by Ed in Alaska who was a beta tester.


On some of the early 2M models the printing on the metal shield was backwards to that shown in the manual.  I made the mistake of installing my shield per the photo in the manual and got the shield on backwards which partially shorted the output transistor resulting in low RF output (0.3w vs 3.0w).  I was one of the field testers so my unit was very early production.  MY understanding is that the label issue was remedied in later units.

To be absolutely sure the shield is on correctly you should visually examine the shield to see if the tiny cutout is over the output transistor (this is the one with a tab you secured with a black flat-head screw).  You should be able to check it without  removal of the shield.  Another way to describe it is the cutout is along the side of the shield nearest the edge of the radio case.

73

David Anderson GM4JJJ 

> On 13 Jun 2015, at 06:51, BillP <b.bill.p at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> KX-3 Serial number 2517
> Internal or external battery power, same condition.
> HF SSB/CW/Digital operation is Fine 
> 
> No 2 meter RF output on any mode.
> I've carefully followed the 2 meter module installation instructions and firmware settings, loaded the latest software as of Friday AM (and again) and cannot measure 2 meter RF at the SMA connector using verified coax and VHF SWR bridge. The power control displays 3 watts but the 'tune' mode displays .1 watt (?).    CW, FM, SSB RF does not register on the VHF SWR/Power meter (10 watt setting) however I can hear my CW/FM/SSB signal in a nearby receiver.  Receive works fine and all modes on HF work fine.  I'm anxious to get this going for the VHF contest.  
> 
> Bill K6ACJ
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
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From km4ik.ian at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 07:20:38 2015
From: km4ik.ian at gmail.com (Ian Kahn)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 07:20:38 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] SSB net; I need help.
In-Reply-To: <CAFHjwP4=smZdAhA3ucGjQnTipD+zAFEx53kHGcR3_g6DXEN2rQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <39B9F25E-F57F-4CBE-9A14-51C4A022F204@riousa.com>
	<CAFHjwP4=smZdAhA3ucGjQnTipD+zAFEx53kHGcR3_g6DXEN2rQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFHjwP6gLHCeRpt58Qetw21554NH1Wgp2DxKV+O+O2mtZXY-nw@mail.gmail.com>

Phil,

I confirmed availability and will be happy to call the net tomorrow and
next Sunday. As I already mentioned, I'm not available Field Day weekend.

I'll see (hear?) everyone on the air tomorrow at 18:00 UTC from my QTH in
Metro Atlanta, Georgia.

73 de,

--Ian
Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik.ian at gmail.com
10-10 #74624  North Georgia Chapter #2038
PODXS 070 #1962
K3 #281, P3 #688 KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Ian Kahn <km4ik.ian at gmail.com> wrote:

> Phil,
>
> Let me see if I'm available this weekend and next. I already know I'm
> unavailable Field Day weekend.
>
> Speedy recovery to you.
>
> 73 de,
>
> Ian, KM4IK
> On Jun 12, 2015 2:30 PM, "Phil Shepard" <phils at riousa.com> wrote:
>
>> I regret to tell you that illness is making my running of the Sunday SSB
>> net difficult.  I need someone to step up and take over, at least for now.
>> It?s fun and not hard.
>>
>> Who is interested?
>>
>> 73,
>> Phil, NS7P
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From km4ik.ian at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 07:23:54 2015
From: km4ik.ian at gmail.com (Ian Kahn)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 07:23:54 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - HRD rig control
In-Reply-To: <201561383017.850505@Shack>
References: <1434151930277-7603956.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<201561383017.850505@Shack>
Message-ID: <CAFHjwP686YavTuj16CEBT3BzJiFPtaLYBHuYOuefW1Xqd1jCWA@mail.gmail.com>

Yes. The HRD team worked diligently when they released version 6.x and
corrected the flaws in the rig control portion of the software that
affected the K3. Users can now control nearly any function of the K3 from
HRD. I've used the entire HRD suite for many years and have been very happy
with it.

73 de,

--Ian
Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik.ian at gmail.com
10-10 #74624  North Georgia Chapter #2038
PODXS 070 #1962
K3 #281, P3 #688 KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:30 AM, Stewart <stewart at twinwood.me> wrote:

> A really good software "Swiss Knife"...
>
> 73
> Stewart G3RXQ
>
> A satisfied long term user.
>
> On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 16:32:10 -0700 (MST), VE3NFK wrote:
> > Check out TRX-Manager  30 day trial  and one-time purchase 3 yr support..
> >
> > full feature control of K3, KX3 and most other rigs; most rotators,
> SteppIR,
> > logging, and much more...
> > been around a long time and regularly improved by Laurent.
> >
> > http://trx-manager.com/index.html
> >
> > sold by PDA in USA
> > http://www.hosenose.com/TRX-Manager/trx-manager_features.aspx
> > and integrates with Logic if you want.
> >
> > 73  John VE3NFK
> >
> > disclaimer  - long time alpha /beta tester
> >
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context:
>
> http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-HRD-rig-control-tp7603949p7603956.html
> > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> > ______________________________________________________________
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From droese at necg.de  Sat Jun 13 07:53:48 2015
From: droese at necg.de (=?windows-1252?Q?Oliver_Dr=F6se?=)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 13:53:48 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] KX-3 2 Meters, No power output
In-Reply-To: <CBB08283-979E-4B18-BA42-1C8F118B6911@gmail.com>
References: <CBB08283-979E-4B18-BA42-1C8F118B6911@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <557C19CC.6090807@necg.de>

Bill,

have you checked that all cables are seated firmly? Pay attention the 
connectors need some pressing to make good contact. Also check the small 
coax (TRV to SMA) for continuity. Is that okay? Elsewise it might also 
be the final transistor has gone south. Contact Elecraft support to 
check, they will certainly guide you through a few measurements to 
locate the error and take according measures. GL!

73, Olli - DH8BQA
KX3-2M beta tester

Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de


Am 13.06.2015 um 07:51 schrieb BillP:
> KX-3 Serial number 2517
> Internal or external battery power, same condition.
> HF SSB/CW/Digital operation is Fine
>
> No 2 meter RF output on any mode.
> I've carefully followed the 2 meter module installation instructions and firmware settings, loaded the latest software as of Friday AM (and again) and cannot measure 2 meter RF at the SMA connector using verified coax and VHF SWR bridge. The power control displays 3 watts but the 'tune' mode displays .1 watt (?).    CW, FM, SSB RF does not register on the VHF SWR/Power meter (10 watt setting) however I can hear my CW/FM/SSB signal in a nearby receiver.  Receive works fine and all modes on HF work fine.  I'm anxious to get this going for the VHF contest.
>
> Bill K6ACJ
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
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From john at johnjeanantiqueradio.com  Sat Jun 13 08:58:47 2015
From: john at johnjeanantiqueradio.com (John K9UWA)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 08:58:47 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - HRD rig control
In-Reply-To: <CAFHjwP686YavTuj16CEBT3BzJiFPtaLYBHuYOuefW1Xqd1jCWA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1434151930277-7603956.post@n2.nabble.com>,
	<201561383017.850505@Shack>,
	<CAFHjwP686YavTuj16CEBT3BzJiFPtaLYBHuYOuefW1Xqd1jCWA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <557C2907.16465.B84FCE1@john.johnjeanantiqueradio.com>


From dave at nk7z.net  Sat Jun 13 09:13:56 2015
From: dave at nk7z.net (David Cole)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 06:13:56 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - HRD rig control
In-Reply-To: <DUB112-DS44A1433D519A89ABAD515AE9BB0@phx.gbl>
References: <557B367F.6040600@nycap.rr.com>
	<1434141894136-7603953.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<557B4C1C.1000402@comcast.net>
	<DUB112-DS44A1433D519A89ABAD515AE9BB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1434201236.7475.100.camel@nostromo.nk7z>

Robin,

A quick question...  If for instance, the ARRL were to change input
format for LoTW in such a way as to break HRD, and after a year of
ownership, would the corrective update be free, or would the HRD user
have to pay for an update to get the correction?  

-- 
Thanks and 73's,
For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
www.nk7z.net

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http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
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For MM-SSTV see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info


On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 22:36 +0100, Robin Moseley wrote:
> Hi ,
> I will be working for HRD as a European support guy.
> 
> The way it works  is .. you try HRD for 30 days for free.
> If you like it, you pay once only  for the version you tried  and for 
> upgrades for 12 months, you also get customer support from 3 dedicated 
> support guys and developers.
> If you are happy with the version you are running, and don't need support or 
> updates, then  you don't need to keep paying,  you have bought the license 
> for the software.
> 
> If you decide that you want the full features of the latest versions, 
> support for new radios, windows operating systems etc, country list updates 
> and another 12 months of the support team, then it is half the original 
> purchase price per year.. so that is just under $50.
> 
> Robin G1MHU
> 
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________
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From kengkopp at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 09:26:58 2015
From: kengkopp at gmail.com (Ken G Kopp)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 07:26:58 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: If HRD would just add ...
Message-ID: <CAD4CdTMCBvLOVM5g=bjkJiyr8hyOf4vfag3r8Ox6qcpkAWXxNQ@mail.gmail.com>

The ability to log / track US Counties, it could be described as
"complete".  I've asked them repeatedly for this.  The feature has been
"coming", "we're working on it", etc for several years? The first time I
inquired they claimed to have never heard of the USCA program.

73 !

Ken - K0PP

From w1ksz at earthlink.net  Sat Jun 13 09:38:21 2015
From: w1ksz at earthlink.net (Richard Solomon)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 06:38:21 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - HRD rig control
In-Reply-To: <1434201236.7475.100.camel@nostromo.nk7z>
References: <557B367F.6040600@nycap.rr.com>	<1434141894136-7603953.post@n2.nabble.com>	<557B4C1C.1000402@comcast.net>	<DUB112-DS44A1433D519A89ABAD515AE9BB0@phx.gbl>
	<1434201236.7475.100.camel@nostromo.nk7z>
Message-ID: <557C324D.1090108@earthlink.net>

Well, I'm not a Lawyer, but I did sleep at a Comfort Inn once ....

If something happens to break HRD, which is/was out of HRD's
control, then I expect you would pay for the fix.

They can't be held responsible for the actions of others.

73, Dick, W1KSZ

On 6/13/2015 6:13 AM, David Cole wrote:
> Robin,
>
> A quick question...  If for instance, the ARRL were to change input
> format for LoTW in such a way as to break HRD, and after a year of
> ownership, would the corrective update be free, or would the HRD user
> have to pay for an update to get the correction?
>


From jim at n7us.net  Sat Jun 13 09:44:57 2015
From: jim at n7us.net (Jim N7US)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 08:44:57 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - HRD rig control
In-Reply-To: <557C324D.1090108@earthlink.net>
References: <557B367F.6040600@nycap.rr.com>	<1434141894136-7603953.post@n2.nabble.com>	<557B4C1C.1000402@comcast.net>	<DUB112-DS44A1433D519A89ABAD515AE9BB0@phx.gbl>	<1434201236.7475.100.camel@nostromo.nk7z>
	<557C324D.1090108@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <02c801d0a5df$23acc680$6b065380$@net>

I've been a delighted used of the DXLab Suite for several years.  It's free
and always will be.

See http://www.dxlabsuite.com/ and
http://www.dxlabsuite.com/differentiators.htm .

73, Jim N7US


-----Original Message-----


Well, I'm not a Lawyer, but I did sleep at a Comfort Inn once ....

If something happens to break HRD, which is/was out of HRD's control, then I
expect you would pay for the fix.

They can't be held responsible for the actions of others.

73, Dick, W1KSZ

On 6/13/2015 6:13 AM, David Cole wrote:
> Robin,
>
> A quick question...  If for instance, the ARRL were to change input 
> format for LoTW in such a way as to break HRD, and after a year of 
> ownership, would the corrective update be free, or would the HRD user 
> have to pay for an update to get the correction?
>


From john at johnjeanantiqueradio.com  Sat Jun 13 10:24:24 2015
From: john at johnjeanantiqueradio.com (John K9UWA)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 10:24:24 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - HRD rig control
In-Reply-To: <CAFHjwP686YavTuj16CEBT3BzJiFPtaLYBHuYOuefW1Xqd1jCWA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1434151930277-7603956.post@n2.nabble.com>,
	<201561383017.850505@Shack>,
	<CAFHjwP686YavTuj16CEBT3BzJiFPtaLYBHuYOuefW1Xqd1jCWA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <557C3D18.569.BD360F1@john.johnjeanantiqueradio.com>

Can you access and change the setup menu's in the K3 with this newer version 
of HRD? 
73 de 
John k9uwa

> Yes. The HRD team worked diligently when they released version 6.x and
> corrected the flaws in the rig control portion of the software that
> affected the K3. Users can now control nearly any function of the K3 from
> HRD. I've used the entire HRD suite for many years and have been very happy with
> it.
> 
> 73 de,
> 
> --Ian
> Ian Kahn, KM4IK
John Goller, K9UWA & Jean Goller, N9PXF 
Antique Radio Restorations
k9uwa at arrl.net
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From toms at xmission.com  Sat Jun 13 10:30:01 2015
From: toms at xmission.com (Thomas Schaefer)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 10:30:01 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Question about KRX3 install
Message-ID: <C881D22C-A1F0-4E59-8349-ECEE7472024F@xmission.com>

Hello,

I have a question about the sub receiver I installed this weekend. 

The procedure for the aux antenna states you have two options for an AUX antenna, either put the BNC in the back of the radio OR connect though the KAT3 so the non used antenna port is the AUX. 

From reading the book, I presumed this is an optional step. In other words, I can do the BNC jack, connect the KRX3 to the KAT3 or NEITHER.

I choose neither. I hope I got that right.

My question is that when I tell the radio that I am using the KRX3, I select from Not Installed, AUX-BNC or AUX-KAT (paraphrasing). Well, since I did not do either of what I consider optional steps, neither one of those makes sense to select. I selected the KAT option but if the steps are really optional, I would thing the CONFIG options should be ON-NoAUX, AUX-BNC or AUX-KAT.

Can someone clarify if the AUX steps are indeed optional and if so, which KRX3 option should I select in CONFIG.

Thanks,

Tom NY4I










Tom Schaefer
727-437-2771

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From dave at nk7z.net  Sat Jun 13 10:30:33 2015
From: dave at nk7z.net (David Cole)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 07:30:33 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - HRD rig control
In-Reply-To: <557C324D.1090108@earthlink.net>
References: <557B367F.6040600@nycap.rr.com>
	<1434141894136-7603953.post@n2.nabble.com>	<557B4C1C.1000402@comcast.net>
	<DUB112-DS44A1433D519A89ABAD515AE9BB0@phx.gbl>
	<1434201236.7475.100.camel@nostromo.nk7z>
	<557C324D.1090108@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1434205833.7475.106.camel@nostromo.nk7z>

Hi Dick,

Just checking to see if the HRD software package can be rendered broken
by outside parties without a free update, after a year of ownership has
passed.  

HRD itself is free to update, or not update, as they see fit, I
understand that.  

I am not suggesting that they "must" update, but rather asking the
question-- would they update for free, if the software became useless
for reasons out of their control, and after a year of ownership.  

"Useless" being defined as some major part being broken, like LoTW, or
K3 controls...
-- 
Thanks and 73's,
For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
www.nk7z.net

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On Sat, 2015-06-13 at 06:38 -0700, Richard Solomon wrote:
> Well, I'm not a Lawyer, but I did sleep at a Comfort Inn once ....
> 
> If something happens to break HRD, which is/was out of HRD's
> control, then I expect you would pay for the fix.
> 
> They can't be held responsible for the actions of others.
> 
> 73, Dick, W1KSZ
> 
> On 6/13/2015 6:13 AM, David Cole wrote:
> > Robin,
> >
> > A quick question...  If for instance, the ARRL were to change input
> > format for LoTW in such a way as to break HRD, and after a year of
> > ownership, would the corrective update be free, or would the HRD user
> > have to pay for an update to get the correction?
> >
> 
> ______________________________________________________________
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From phils at riousa.com  Sat Jun 13 10:38:16 2015
From: phils at riousa.com (Phil Shepard)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 07:38:16 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] SSB net; I need help.
In-Reply-To: <CAFHjwP6gLHCeRpt58Qetw21554NH1Wgp2DxKV+O+O2mtZXY-nw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <39B9F25E-F57F-4CBE-9A14-51C4A022F204@riousa.com>
	<CAFHjwP4=smZdAhA3ucGjQnTipD+zAFEx53kHGcR3_g6DXEN2rQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFHjwP6gLHCeRpt58Qetw21554NH1Wgp2DxKV+O+O2mtZXY-nw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ED4BAF1D-3349-498C-AF78-D6481E78946A@riousa.com>

Ian,

Thank you so much.

73,
Phil, NS7P


> On Jun 13, 2015, at 4:20 AM, Ian Kahn <km4ik.ian at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Phil


From phils at riousa.com  Sat Jun 13 10:42:56 2015
From: phils at riousa.com (Phil Shepard)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 07:42:56 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] SSB net; I need help.
In-Reply-To: <ED4BAF1D-3349-498C-AF78-D6481E78946A@riousa.com>
References: <39B9F25E-F57F-4CBE-9A14-51C4A022F204@riousa.com>
	<CAFHjwP4=smZdAhA3ucGjQnTipD+zAFEx53kHGcR3_g6DXEN2rQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFHjwP6gLHCeRpt58Qetw21554NH1Wgp2DxKV+O+O2mtZXY-nw@mail.gmail.com>
	<ED4BAF1D-3349-498C-AF78-D6481E78946A@riousa.com>
Message-ID: <6950F2DF-6094-4CB3-9FBE-C68D34D74FBB@riousa.com>

David, KC0XT, in southern Cal has offered to help too.  Thanks David.

Phil



> On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:38 AM, Phil Shepard <phils at riousa.com> wrote:
> 
> Ian,
> 
> Thank you so much.
> 
> 73,
> Phil, NS7P
> 
> 
>> On Jun 13, 2015, at 4:20 AM, Ian Kahn <km4ik.ian at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Phil
> 
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From lists at subich.com  Sat Jun 13 10:54:51 2015
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 10:54:51 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - HRD rig control
In-Reply-To: <1434205833.7475.106.camel@nostromo.nk7z>
References: <557B367F.6040600@nycap.rr.com>	<1434141894136-7603953.post@n2.nabble.com>	<557B4C1C.1000402@comcast.net>	<DUB112-DS44A1433D519A89ABAD515AE9BB0@phx.gbl>	<1434201236.7475.100.camel@nostromo.nk7z>	<557C324D.1090108@earthlink.net>
	<1434205833.7475.106.camel@nostromo.nk7z>
Message-ID: <557C443B.8070909@subich.com>


I doubt that *any* software company will guarantee free support for
changes by third party companies/organizations (particularly since
some companies like QRZ.com seem to make changes just to break third
party software on a regular basis).

In a fee for support model like HRD, LLC., free updates for any change
in third party hardware/software would be economic suicide.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-06-13 10:30 AM, David Cole wrote:
> Hi Dick,
>
> Just checking to see if the HRD software package can be rendered broken
> by outside parties without a free update, after a year of ownership has
> passed.
>
> HRD itself is free to update, or not update, as they see fit, I
> understand that.
>
> I am not suggesting that they "must" update, but rather asking the
> question-- would they update for free, if the software became useless
> for reasons out of their control, and after a year of ownership.
>
> "Useless" being defined as some major part being broken, like LoTW, or
> K3 controls...
>

From fcady at ece.montana.edu  Sat Jun 13 11:02:46 2015
From: fcady at ece.montana.edu (Cady, Fred)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 09:02:46 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] Question about KRX3 install
In-Reply-To: <C881D22C-A1F0-4E59-8349-ECEE7472024F@xmission.com>
References: <C881D22C-A1F0-4E59-8349-ECEE7472024F@xmission.com>
Message-ID: <31B0BCE89606784FB09EF0C6CF94794F045ECCF2FB@coeexch1.coe.montana.edu>

Hi Tom,
Here is how I have it figured out:

When you install your Sub receiver you must chose an antenna configuration and then physically connect a TMP cable inside the K3 from the Sub receiver's J92 antenna input to one of two places.  First, you can connect the receiver to the K3's ATU, which allows the Sub receiver to either share the same antenna the Main receiver is using (ANT1, ANT 2, or RX ANT IN if a KXV3A is installed).  You may also choose to have the Sub receiver use whichever antenna the Main receiver is NOT using (ANT 2 if Main is using ANT1, or vice versa).  You must set CONFIG:KRX3 Ant=Atu for this option.  This may be your best choice for all around operating with a variety of antennas.  Section 5.10.3 shows antenna selections when you make this choice.

The second choice is to connect the receiver to a separate auxiliary RF BNC antenna connector.  In this case, the Sub receiver can share an antenna with the Main or it can use a different antenna connected to the AUX RF BNC.  Set CONFIG:KRX3 Ant=bnc if you choose this option.  This may be your best choice for diversity receiver operation with specialized receive antennas.  Section 5.10.4 gives diagrams showing antenna choices for this configuration.
Note: You cannot transmit on the AUX RF BNC.

I think some of the confusion comes from what the K3 displays when you switch the Sub's antenna.  When sharing the main antenna, it shows MAIN;  when switched to the other choice, it shows AUX but that doesn't necessarily mean the AUX BNC.  In this case it depends how you have your Sub receiver connected -- Ant=Atu or Ant=bnc.

Cheers,
Fred KE7X

Author of:
"The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration and Operation 2nd ed"
"The Elecraft KX3 - Going for the summit"
"The Elecraft KPA500 and KAT500 - the K-Line Dream Station"
Printed, coil bound copies of these are all available at www.elecraft.com
KPA500 and KAT500 Quick Set Up Guide
http://www.ke7x.com/home/k-line-introduction-and-set-up-guide
KAT500 and KXPA500 Tuner Operation
http://www.ke7x.com/home/kat500-and-kxpa100-tuners

"The Elecraft KXPA100, PX3 and 2M/4M Transverters - Assembling the KX3-Line Station" available at www.lulu.com.

("The Elecraft K3S and P3" in preparation)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> Thomas Schaefer
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:30 AM
> To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Question about KRX3 install
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have a question about the sub receiver I installed this weekend.
> 
> The procedure for the aux antenna states you have two options for an
> AUX antenna, either put the BNC in the back of the radio OR connect
> though the KAT3 so the non used antenna port is the AUX.
> 
> From reading the book, I presumed this is an optional step. In other
> words, I can do the BNC jack, connect the KRX3 to the KAT3 or NEITHER.
> 
> I choose neither. I hope I got that right.
> 
> My question is that when I tell the radio that I am using the KRX3, I
> select from Not Installed, AUX-BNC or AUX-KAT (paraphrasing). Well,
> since I did not do either of what I consider optional steps, neither
> one of those makes sense to select. I selected the KAT option but if
> the steps are really optional, I would thing the CONFIG options should
> be ON-NoAUX, AUX-BNC or AUX-KAT.
> 
> Can someone clarify if the AUX steps are indeed optional and if so,
> which KRX3 option should I select in CONFIG.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tom NY4I
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Tom Schaefer
> 727-437-2771
> 
> P.S. Drowning in email? I use SaneBox to instantly clean up my Inbox:
> http://sanebox.com/t/gdaz7
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From ricker at w4pcsoftware.com  Sat Jun 13 11:24:22 2015
From: ricker at w4pcsoftware.com (HRD Support)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 11:24:22 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - HRD rig control
In-Reply-To: <557C324D.1090108@earthlink.net>
References: <557B367F.6040600@nycap.rr.com>
	<1434141894136-7603953.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<557B4C1C.1000402@comcast.net>
	<DUB112-DS44A1433D519A89ABAD515AE9BB0@phx.gbl>
	<1434201236.7475.100.camel@nostromo.nk7z>
	<557C324D.1090108@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <E7B23DBF-B008-4F18-82D3-F6A5C888F77F@w4pcsoftware.com>

In cases like this, fixes are free for the current version.

New features are what are going to be charged.

Bug fixes are free for the lifetime of the product.



> On Jun 13, 2015, at 09:38, Richard Solomon <w1ksz at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> Well, I'm not a Lawyer, but I did sleep at a Comfort Inn once ....
> 
> If something happens to break HRD, which is/was out of HRD's
> control, then I expect you would pay for the fix.
> 
> They can't be held responsible for the actions of others.
> 
> 73, Dick, W1KSZ
> 
>> On 6/13/2015 6:13 AM, David Cole wrote:
>> Robin,
>> 
>> A quick question...  If for instance, the ARRL were to change input
>> format for LoTW in such a way as to break HRD, and after a year of
>> ownership, would the corrective update be free, or would the HRD user
>> have to pay for an update to get the correction?
> 
> ______________________________________________________________
> Elecraft mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
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> 

From toms at xmission.com  Sat Jun 13 11:31:19 2015
From: toms at xmission.com (Thomas Schaefer)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 11:31:19 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Question about KRX3 install
In-Reply-To: <31B0BCE89606784FB09EF0C6CF94794F045ECCF2FB@coeexch1.coe.montana.edu>
References: <C881D22C-A1F0-4E59-8349-ECEE7472024F@xmission.com>
	<31B0BCE89606784FB09EF0C6CF94794F045ECCF2FB@coeexch1.coe.montana.edu>
Message-ID: <C0AFB5F9-0653-47FE-9024-28BDB889DA92@xmission.com>

Thanks Fred.

So If I follow you, I have to pick one of those two options?

I ask as in the installation manual, it states if you do NOT want an AUX input to the KRX3, you can skip the steps. As presented, I did indeed skip those steps but when I arrived at the menu, I thought to myself, ?Well, I selected neither option, so which one do I choose?. It sounds like maybe I wanted BNC as I really just want to let the subRX share the main antenna.

Thanks,

Tom Schaefer
727-437-2771

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> On Jun 13, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Cady, Fred <fcady at ece.montana.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tom,
> Here is how I have it figured out:
> 
> When you install your Sub receiver you must chose an antenna configuration and then physically connect a TMP cable inside the K3 from the Sub receiver's J92 antenna input to one of two places.  First, you can connect the receiver to the K3's ATU, which allows the Sub receiver to either share the same antenna the Main receiver is using (ANT1, ANT 2, or RX ANT IN if a KXV3A is installed).  You may also choose to have the Sub receiver use whichever antenna the Main receiver is NOT using (ANT 2 if Main is using ANT1, or vice versa).  You must set CONFIG:KRX3 Ant=Atu for this option.  This may be your best choice for all around operating with a variety of antennas.  Section 5.10.3 shows antenna selections when you make this choice.
> 
> The second choice is to connect the receiver to a separate auxiliary RF BNC antenna connector.  In this case, the Sub receiver can share an antenna with the Main or it can use a different antenna connected to the AUX RF BNC.  Set CONFIG:KRX3 Ant=bnc if you choose this option.  This may be your best choice for diversity receiver operation with specialized receive antennas.  Section 5.10.4 gives diagrams showing antenna choices for this configuration.
> Note: You cannot transmit on the AUX RF BNC.
> 
> I think some of the confusion comes from what the K3 displays when you switch the Sub's antenna.  When sharing the main antenna, it shows MAIN;  when switched to the other choice, it shows AUX but that doesn't necessarily mean the AUX BNC.  In this case it depends how you have your Sub receiver connected -- Ant=Atu or Ant=bnc.
> 
> Cheers,
> Fred KE7X
> 
> Author of:
> "The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration and Operation 2nd ed"
> "The Elecraft KX3 - Going for the summit"
> "The Elecraft KPA500 and KAT500 - the K-Line Dream Station"
> Printed, coil bound copies of these are all available at www.elecraft.com
> KPA500 and KAT500 Quick Set Up Guide
> http://www.ke7x.com/home/k-line-introduction-and-set-up-guide
> KAT500 and KXPA500 Tuner Operation
> http://www.ke7x.com/home/kat500-and-kxpa100-tuners
> 
> "The Elecraft KXPA100, PX3 and 2M/4M Transverters - Assembling the KX3-Line Station" available at www.lulu.com.
> 
> ("The Elecraft K3S and P3" in preparation)
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
>> Thomas Schaefer
>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:30 AM
>> To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Question about KRX3 install
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I have a question about the sub receiver I installed this weekend.
>> 
>> The procedure for the aux antenna states you have two options for an
>> AUX antenna, either put the BNC in the back of the radio OR connect
>> though the KAT3 so the non used antenna port is the AUX.
>> 
>> From reading the book, I presumed this is an optional step. In other
>> words, I can do the BNC jack, connect the KRX3 to the KAT3 or NEITHER.
>> 
>> I choose neither. I hope I got that right.
>> 
>> My question is that when I tell the radio that I am using the KRX3, I
>> select from Not Installed, AUX-BNC or AUX-KAT (paraphrasing). Well,
>> since I did not do either of what I consider optional steps, neither
>> one of those makes sense to select. I selected the KAT option but if
>> the steps are really optional, I would thing the CONFIG options should
>> be ON-NoAUX, AUX-BNC or AUX-KAT.
>> 
>> Can someone clarify if the AUX steps are indeed optional and if so,
>> which KRX3 option should I select in CONFIG.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Tom NY4I
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Tom Schaefer
>> 727-437-2771
>> 
>> P.S. Drowning in email? I use SaneBox to instantly clean up my Inbox:
>> http://sanebox.com/t/gdaz7
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From dave at nk7z.net  Sat Jun 13 12:43:44 2015
From: dave at nk7z.net (David Cole)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 09:43:44 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - HRD rig control
In-Reply-To: <E7B23DBF-B008-4F18-82D3-F6A5C888F77F@w4pcsoftware.com>
References: <557B367F.6040600@nycap.rr.com>
	<1434141894136-7603953.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<557B4C1C.1000402@comcast.net>
	<DUB112-DS44A1433D519A89ABAD515AE9BB0@phx.gbl>
	<1434201236.7475.100.camel@nostromo.nk7z>
	<557C324D.1090108@earthlink.net>
	<E7B23DBF-B008-4F18-82D3-F6A5C888F77F@w4pcsoftware.com>
Message-ID: <1434213824.7475.125.camel@nostromo.nk7z>

Thank you, that answered my question...
-- 
Thanks and 73's,
For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
www.nk7z.net

For MixW support see;
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
For Dopplergram information see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
For MM-SSTV see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info


On Sat, 2015-06-13 at 11:24 -0400, HRD Support wrote:
> In cases like this, fixes are free for the current version.
> 
> New features are what are going to be charged.
> 
> Bug fixes are free for the lifetime of the product.
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jun 13, 2015, at 09:38, Richard Solomon <w1ksz at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > 
> > Well, I'm not a Lawyer, but I did sleep at a Comfort Inn once ....
> > 
> > If something happens to break HRD, which is/was out of HRD's
> > control, then I expect you would pay for the fix.
> > 
> > They can't be held responsible for the actions of others.
> > 
> > 73, Dick, W1KSZ
> > 
> >> On 6/13/2015 6:13 AM, David Cole wrote:
> >> Robin,
> >> 
> >> A quick question...  If for instance, the ARRL were to change input
> >> format for LoTW in such a way as to break HRD, and after a year of
> >> ownership, would the corrective update be free, or would the HRD user
> >> have to pay for an update to get the correction?
> > 
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From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Sat Jun 13 12:56:55 2015
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 09:56:55 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Question about KRX3 install
In-Reply-To: <C0AFB5F9-0653-47FE-9024-28BDB889DA92@xmission.com>
References: <C881D22C-A1F0-4E59-8349-ECEE7472024F@xmission.com>	<31B0BCE89606784FB09EF0C6CF94794F045ECCF2FB@coeexch1.coe.montana.edu>
	<C0AFB5F9-0653-47FE-9024-28BDB889DA92@xmission.com>
Message-ID: <557C60D7.4070803@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On Sat,6/13/2015 8:31 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
> So If I follow you, I have to pick one of those two options?

For all practical purposes, yes. Which you pick depends on how many 
antennas you have and how you plan to use the 2nd RX. If you want to do 
diversity RX, you probably want the AUX connector -- that way, you can 
feed whatever antenna you want into it without tying up the ANT2 connector.

73, Jim K9YC

From toms at xmission.com  Sat Jun 13 13:11:06 2015
From: toms at xmission.com (Thomas Schaefer)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 13:11:06 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Question about KRX3 install
In-Reply-To: <557C60D7.4070803@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <C881D22C-A1F0-4E59-8349-ECEE7472024F@xmission.com>
	<31B0BCE89606784FB09EF0C6CF94794F045ECCF2FB@coeexch1.coe.montana.edu>
	<C0AFB5F9-0653-47FE-9024-28BDB889DA92@xmission.com>
	<557C60D7.4070803@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <DD424F12-DA9A-4947-9F8A-6AEB86BC76ED@xmission.com>

I don't mean to be obtuse, but I don?t follow.

The way the book is written is it sounds like I can choose an option. There was a downside described ion the manual to having the AUX though non-used antenna port. I also do not need to use a separate antenna. All I ever want to do is have the Sub RX on the main antenna. I use the sub rx strictly to hear the other side of a pile up. 

I am going to check out my other K3 that I received that had the sub RX in it. Let me see what it did.

Thanks,

Tom Schaefer
727-437-2771

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> On Jun 13, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:
> 
> On Sat,6/13/2015 8:31 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
>> So If I follow you, I have to pick one of those two options?
> 
> For all practical purposes, yes. Which you pick depends on how many antennas you have and how you plan to use the 2nd RX. If you want to do diversity RX, you probably want the AUX connector -- that way, you can feed whatever antenna you want into it without tying up the ANT2 connector.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
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From k3ndm at comcast.net  Sat Jun 13 13:11:30 2015
From: k3ndm at comcast.net (Barry LaZar)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 13:11:30 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - HRD rig control
In-Reply-To: <557C324D.1090108@earthlink.net>
References: <557B367F.6040600@nycap.rr.com>	<1434141894136-7603953.post@n2.nabble.com>	<557B4C1C.1000402@comcast.net>	<DUB112-DS44A1433D519A89ABAD515AE9BB0@phx.gbl>	<1434201236.7475.100.camel@nostromo.nk7z>
	<557C324D.1090108@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <557C6442.6000303@comcast.net>

If you didn't want to renew your subscription, you could manually upload 
to LoTW by exporting the contacts in ADIF format, running TQSL, and 
uploading directly to LoTW. It's no where as convenient, but it is 
doable until such time as you want to jump back in.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

On 6/13/2015 9:38 AM, Richard Solomon wrote:
> Well, I'm not a Lawyer, but I did sleep at a Comfort Inn once ....
>
> If something happens to break HRD, which is/was out of HRD's
> control, then I expect you would pay for the fix.
>
> They can't be held responsible for the actions of others.
>
> 73, Dick, W1KSZ
>
> On 6/13/2015 6:13 AM, David Cole wrote:
>> Robin,
>>
>> A quick question...  If for instance, the ARRL were to change input
>> format for LoTW in such a way as to break HRD, and after a year of
>> ownership, would the corrective update be free, or would the HRD user
>> have to pay for an update to get the correction?
>>
>
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From ricker at w4pcsoftware.com  Sat Jun 13 13:35:30 2015
From: ricker at w4pcsoftware.com (HRD Support)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 13:35:30 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: If HRD would just add ...
In-Reply-To: <CAD4CdTMCBvLOVM5g=bjkJiyr8hyOf4vfag3r8Ox6qcpkAWXxNQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAD4CdTMCBvLOVM5g=bjkJiyr8hyOf4vfag3r8Ox6qcpkAWXxNQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <424F6D55-CDC7-4A6A-94A1-E3AB661A1260@w4pcsoftware.com>

Ken , that was a new member of my staff. Not everyone knows about all the awards or everything about him radio.

The migration is been a big part of our time and that's due to the fact that Microsoft change the rules last summer about using the program data folder.

Now that the migration is done we can start working on modifying the database to be able to handle counties, WAE, and CQ marathon.

Much of the coaches straightforward but none of this is easy.



> On Jun 13, 2015, at 09:26, Ken G Kopp <kengkopp at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The ability to log / track US Counties, it could be described as
> "complete".  I've asked them repeatedly for this.  The feature has been
> "coming", "we're working on it", etc for several years? The first time I
> inquired they claimed to have never heard of the USCA program.
> 
> 73 !
> 
> Ken - K0PP
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From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Sat Jun 13 14:57:42 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 14:57:42 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Question about KRX3 install
In-Reply-To: <DD424F12-DA9A-4947-9F8A-6AEB86BC76ED@xmission.com>
References: <C881D22C-A1F0-4E59-8349-ECEE7472024F@xmission.com>	<31B0BCE89606784FB09EF0C6CF94794F045ECCF2FB@coeexch1.coe.montana.edu>	<C0AFB5F9-0653-47FE-9024-28BDB889DA92@xmission.com>	<557C60D7.4070803@audiosystemsgroup.com>
	<DD424F12-DA9A-4947-9F8A-6AEB86BC76ED@xmission.com>
Message-ID: <557C7D26.4020300@embarqmail.com>

Tom,

Perhaps I can state things in a different way to help you along.
First, the SubRX can always use the main antenna, but if you do that, 
there is a 3 dB coupler in the path, so your receive signal strength 
goes down by 3 dB both in the main RX and the SubRX.

The way to avoid the 3 dB loss is to set the subRX to use the AUX 
input.  If you select AUX on the subRX, then the input will come from 
one of two places depending on how you have connected the TMP cable.  If 
you connect it to the KAT3, the AUX antenna will be the non-transmit 
antenna - in other words, if you have 2 antennas (necessary for 
Diversity reception) - but both antennas are transmit capable, you can 
connect one antenna to the ANT1 jack and the other to the ANT2 jack.  
You will transmit on the one selected by the ANT1/2 button, and  the 
subRX will receive on the other one.

If you have a separate receive only antenna, you would want to connect 
the subRX AUX input to the BNC jack - in that case install the BNC and 
its cable.

I have set up a couple K3s with both cables installed, but only one 
connected to the subRX AUX jack - the other it taped to the top of the 
subRX enclosure.  If you want to change which one is connected to the 
subRX AUX jack, it is a simple matter of removing the top cover and 
unplugging one TMP cable and plugging the other one in. If you install 
both, I suggest that you get out your label machine and mark which cable 
is which.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 6/13/2015 1:11 PM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
> I don't mean to be obtuse, but I don?t follow.
>
> The way the book is written is it sounds like I can choose an option. There was a downside described ion the manual to having the AUX though non-used antenna port. I also do not need to use a separate antenna. All I ever want to do is have the Sub RX on the main antenna. I use the sub rx strictly to hear the other side of a pile up.
>
> I am going to check out my other K3 that I received that had the sub RX in it. Let me see what it did.
>
>


From w2blc at nycap.rr.com  Sat Jun 13 15:15:17 2015
From: w2blc at nycap.rr.com (Bill)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 15:15:17 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - simple HRD questions
In-Reply-To: <E7B23DBF-B008-4F18-82D3-F6A5C888F77F@w4pcsoftware.com>
References: <E7B23DBF-B008-4F18-82D3-F6A5C888F77F@w4pcsoftware.com>
Message-ID: <557C8145.2050601@nycap.rr.com>

Would someone running the latest version of HRD on their K3 kindly tell 
me if the buttons for Notch, NR, ATU, and a few others properly change 
color to indicate selection?

What controls are now accessible via the HRD panel that were not on 5.x 
- meaning defined on the layout panel?

Thank you,

Bill W2BLC K-Line




From ricker at w4pcsoftware.com  Sat Jun 13 17:42:15 2015
From: ricker at w4pcsoftware.com (Rick Ruhl)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 17:42:15 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: If HRD would just add ...
In-Reply-To: <424F6D55-CDC7-4A6A-94A1-E3AB661A1260@w4pcsoftware.com>
References: <CAD4CdTMCBvLOVM5g=bjkJiyr8hyOf4vfag3r8Ox6qcpkAWXxNQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<424F6D55-CDC7-4A6A-94A1-E3AB661A1260@w4pcsoftware.com>
Message-ID: <02eb01d0a621$d091c4d0$71b54e70$@w4pcsoftware.com>

 Coaches = code.. I was using voice to text..!

OMG it's a bug, I'll never use an iPhone again! LOL



-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of HRD
Support
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 1:36 PM
To: Ken G Kopp
Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: If HRD would just add ...

Ken , that was a new member of my staff. Not everyone knows about all the
awards or everything about him radio.

The migration is been a big part of our time and that's due to the fact that
Microsoft change the rules last summer about using the program data folder.

Now that the migration is done we can start working on modifying the
database to be able to handle counties, WAE, and CQ marathon.

Much of the coaches straightforward but none of this is easy.



> On Jun 13, 2015, at 09:26, Ken G Kopp <kengkopp at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The ability to log / track US Counties, it could be described as 
> "complete".  I've asked them repeatedly for this.  The feature has 
> been "coming", "we're working on it", etc for several years? The first 
> time I inquired they claimed to have never heard of the USCA program.
> 
> 73 !
> 
> Ken - K0PP
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From km4ik.ian at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 18:20:35 2015
From: km4ik.ian at gmail.com (Ian - Ham)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 18:20:35 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Announcement
Message-ID: <00f601d0a627$2b85f8c0$8291ea40$@gmail.com>

I hope I'm not stepping on Phil's, NS7P, toes, but I wanted to ensure
everyone knows about the minor change to the Elecraft sideband net tomorrow,
6/14, and next week, 6/21.

 

The net is still Sunday afternoon at 1800 UTC on 14.3035 +/-. However, Ian,
KM4IK, will be net control from the metro Atlanta area the next two weeks.
Please point your beams toward Georgia and EM74 to check into the net.

 

See everyone on the net!

 

73 de,

 

--Ian

Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik.ian at gmail.com <mailto:km4ik.ian at gmail.com> 

10-10 #74624, North Georgia Chapter #2038

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K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468

 



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From dave at nk7z.net  Sat Jun 13 18:21:11 2015
From: dave at nk7z.net (David Cole)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 15:21:11 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - HRD rig control
In-Reply-To: <557C443B.8070909@subich.com>
References: <557B367F.6040600@nycap.rr.com>
	<1434141894136-7603953.post@n2.nabble.com>	<557B4C1C.1000402@comcast.net>
	<DUB112-DS44A1433D519A89ABAD515AE9BB0@phx.gbl>
	<1434201236.7475.100.camel@nostromo.nk7z>	<557C324D.1090108@earthlink.net>
	<1434205833.7475.106.camel@nostromo.nk7z> <557C443B.8070909@subich.com>
Message-ID: <1434234071.7475.143.camel@nostromo.nk7z>

Hi Joe,

I am comfortable with the answer I got from the vendor...  They support
things for the current version...  Looks like they are taking the
Microsoft model, support current version.


-- 
Thanks and 73's,
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On Sat, 2015-06-13 at 10:54 -0400, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> I doubt that *any* software company will guarantee free support for
> changes by third party companies/organizations (particularly since
> some companies like QRZ.com seem to make changes just to break third
> party software on a regular basis).
> 
> In a fee for support model like HRD, LLC., free updates for any change
> in third party hardware/software would be economic suicide.
> 
> 73,
> 
>     ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
> On 2015-06-13 10:30 AM, David Cole wrote:
> > Hi Dick,
> >
> > Just checking to see if the HRD software package can be rendered broken
> > by outside parties without a free update, after a year of ownership has
> > passed.
> >
> > HRD itself is free to update, or not update, as they see fit, I
> > understand that.
> >
> > I am not suggesting that they "must" update, but rather asking the
> > question-- would they update for free, if the software became useless
> > for reasons out of their control, and after a year of ownership.
> >
> > "Useless" being defined as some major part being broken, like LoTW, or
> > K3 controls...
> >
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From edauer at law.du.edu  Sat Jun 13 19:39:17 2015
From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 23:39:17 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Anomaly
Message-ID: <D8408FE7-9C9A-4FFE-B24F-2B268BA88842@law.du.edu>

Finally got the KX3 ? PX3 ? KXPA100 system cabled together and on the air 
today, all of the F/W updated.  All OK but for two anomalies, one of them 
a bit of a nuisance.
 

The PX3 shows a double sharp spike offset from the tuned frequency about 
600 and 700 Hz (an eyeball estimate), at about S2.  The twin spikes just 
stay there a fixed offset away from the marker as the rest of the band 
marches by.  (The PX3 is in tracking mode ? I haven?t downloaded the beta 
revision.)  Same thing on every band I?ve tried ? 10, 15, 20 and 40.  Some 
other symptoms:
 

The small bit of spectrum (about 100 Hz) between the two spikes is devoid 
of signal ? jet black even when the ref level is set so that the rest of 
the waterfall span is showing blue.
 

The spikes appear in CW mode but not in AM or SSB.  They switch sides when 
I switch cw sidebands ? 600 and 700 Hz below center when the KX3 is in CW 
rev, and the same distance above center when it?s changed back.
 

When the i/Q cable is disconnected at either end, the spikes slowly 
decline.  But with the cable connected and the KX3 power turned off, they 
are still there on the PX3.
 

The spikes remain at 600 and 700 Hz offset from center regardless of the 
span setting.
 

Weird.  And troubling, because 300 - 600 Hz is a typical XIT offset I use 
in pileups when the DX isn?t working ?up.?  Anyone have any ideas?  Anyone 
seen this before?
 

The other glitch is much less trouble.  The KX3 setting sometimes switches 
itself from PA Mode On to PA Mode off.  I think I?ve figured it out ? if I 
turn the KXPA100 power off before turning the KX3 off, or if I turn the 
KX3 on before powering up the amp, the KX3 must be sensing ?no amp? and so 
switching itself back to PA Mode Off.  But then when the amp comes on, the 
KX3 doesn?t sense that and switch back to PA Mode On. An intelligent 
default choice, maybe.  Any way to defeat it?
 


Ted, KN1CBR


From w2blc at nycap.rr.com  Sat Jun 13 19:55:07 2015
From: w2blc at nycap.rr.com (Bill)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 19:55:07 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - simple HRD questions
In-Reply-To: <557C8145.2050601@nycap.rr.com>
References: <557C8145.2050601@nycap.rr.com>
Message-ID: <557CC2DB.7070401@nycap.rr.com>

Well, I got no answers - so I downloaded and installed the trial version 
and have answered my own questions.

Bill W2BLC K-Line


From w7ox at socal.rr.com  Sat Jun 13 20:19:15 2015
From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 17:19:15 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Anomaly
In-Reply-To: <D8408FE7-9C9A-4FFE-B24F-2B268BA88842@law.du.edu>
References: <D8408FE7-9C9A-4FFE-B24F-2B268BA88842@law.du.edu>
Message-ID: <557CC883.6030707@socal.rr.com>

Make sure those (all!) cables are fully inserted, 
Ted. I've found that to take more "push" in the 
case of the KX3 and PX3 than some of my other devices.

Phil W7OX

On 6/13/15 4:39 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
> Finally got the KX3 ? PX3 ? KXPA100 system cabled together and on the air
> today, all of the F/W updated.  All OK but for two anomalies, one of them
> a bit of a nuisance.
>   
>
> The PX3 shows a double sharp spike offset from the tuned frequency about
> 600 and 700 Hz (an eyeball estimate), at about S2.  The twin spikes just
> stay there a fixed offset away from the marker as the rest of the band
> marches by.  (The PX3 is in tracking mode ? I haven?t downloaded the beta
> revision.)  Same thing on every band I?ve tried ? 10, 15, 20 and 40.  Some
> other symptoms:
>   
>
> The small bit of spectrum (about 100 Hz) between the two spikes is devoid
> of signal ? jet black even when the ref level is set so that the rest of
> the waterfall span is showing blue.
>   
>
> The spikes appear in CW mode but not in AM or SSB.  They switch sides when
> I switch cw sidebands ? 600 and 700 Hz below center when the KX3 is in CW
> rev, and the same distance above center when it?s changed back.
>   
>
> When the i/Q cable is disconnected at either end, the spikes slowly
> decline.  But with the cable connected and the KX3 power turned off, they
> are still there on the PX3.
>   
>
> The spikes remain at 600 and 700 Hz offset from center regardless of the
> span setting.
>   
>
> Weird.  And troubling, because 300 - 600 Hz is a typical XIT offset I use
> in pileups when the DX isn?t working ?up.?  Anyone have any ideas?  Anyone
> seen this before?
>   
>
> The other glitch is much less trouble.  The KX3 setting sometimes switches
> itself from PA Mode On to PA Mode off.  I think I?ve figured it out ? if I
> turn the KXPA100 power off before turning the KX3 off, or if I turn the
> KX3 on before powering up the amp, the KX3 must be sensing ?no amp? and so
> switching itself back to PA Mode Off.  But then when the amp comes on, the
> KX3 doesn?t sense that and switch back to PA Mode On. An intelligent
> default choice, maybe.  Any way to defeat it?
>   
>
>
> Ted, KN1CBR


From phils at riousa.com  Sat Jun 13 21:12:03 2015
From: phils at riousa.com (Phil Shepard)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 18:12:03 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Announcement
In-Reply-To: <00f601d0a627$2b85f8c0$8291ea40$@gmail.com>
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No problem.  Go for it.  Thank you.

Phil


> On Jun 13, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Ian - Ham <km4ik.ian at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I hope I'm not stepping on Phil's, NS7P, toes, but I wanted to ensure
> everyone knows about the minor change to the Elecraft sideband net tomorrow,
> 6/14, and next week, 6/21.
> 
> 
> 
> The net is still Sunday afternoon at 1800 UTC on 14.3035 +/-. However, Ian,
> KM4IK, will be net control from the metro Atlanta area the next two weeks.
> Please point your beams toward Georgia and EM74 to check into the net.
> 
> 
> 
> See everyone on the net!
> 
> 
> 
> 73 de,
> 
> 
> 
> --Ian
> 
> Ian Kahn, KM4IK
> Roswell, GA  EM74ua
> km4ik.ian at gmail.com <mailto:km4ik.ian at gmail.com> 
> 
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> 
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> K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468
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From k7jltextra at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 21:28:46 2015
From: k7jltextra at gmail.com (John K7JLT)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 18:28:46 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Anomaly
Message-ID: <4uvvv9qc863637fiv7b8sps9.1434245326296@email.android.com>

Both of these problems have been reported here.  The second problem is better but still exists.  On the first with the blip that is offset I use the workaround of operating CW with a reverse offset until they get it fixed.  At least there isn't any off set used on field day.

John K7JLT

Phil Wheeler <w7ox at socal.rr.com> wrote:

>Make sure those (all!) cables are fully inserted, 
>Ted. I've found that to take more "push" in the 
>case of the KX3 and PX3 than some of my other devices.
>
>Phil W7OX
>
>On 6/13/15 4:39 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
>> Finally got the KX3 ? PX3 ? KXPA100 system cabled together and on the air
>> today, all of the F/W updated.  All OK but for two anomalies, one of them
>> a bit of a nuisance.
>>   
>>
>> The PX3 shows a double sharp spike offset from the tuned frequency about
>> 600 and 700 Hz (an eyeball estimate), at about S2.  The twin spikes just
>> stay there a fixed offset away from the marker as the rest of the band
>> marches by.  (The PX3 is in tracking mode ? I haven?t downloaded the beta
>> revision.)  Same thing on every band I?ve tried ? 10, 15, 20 and 40.  Some
>> other symptoms:
>>   
>>
>> The small bit of spectrum (about 100 Hz) between the two spikes is devoid
>> of signal ? jet black even when the ref level is set so that the rest of
>> the waterfall span is showing blue.
>>   
>>
>> The spikes appear in CW mode but not in AM or SSB.  They switch sides when
>> I switch cw sidebands ? 600 and 700 Hz below center when the KX3 is in CW
>> rev, and the same distance above center when it?s changed back.
>>   
>>
>> When the i/Q cable is disconnected at either end, the spikes slowly
>> decline.  But with the cable connected and the KX3 power turned off, they
>> are still there on the PX3.
>>   
>>
>> The spikes remain at 600 and 700 Hz offset from center regardless of the
>> span setting.
>>   
>>
>> Weird.  And troubling, because 300 - 600 Hz is a typical XIT offset I use
>> in pileups when the DX isn?t working ?up.?  Anyone have any ideas?  Anyone
>> seen this before?
>>   
>>
>> The other glitch is much less trouble.  The KX3 setting sometimes switches
>> itself from PA Mode On to PA Mode off.  I think I?ve figured it out ? if I
>> turn the KXPA100 power off before turning the KX3 off, or if I turn the
>> KX3 on before powering up the amp, the KX3 must be sensing ?no amp? and so
>> switching itself back to PA Mode Off.  But then when the amp comes on, the
>> KX3 doesn?t sense that and switch back to PA Mode On. An intelligent
>> default choice, maybe.  Any way to defeat it?
>>   
>>
>>
>> Ted, KN1CBR
>
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From mzilmer at roadrunner.com  Sat Jun 13 21:42:38 2015
From: mzilmer at roadrunner.com (Matt Zilmer)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 18:42:38 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Anomaly
In-Reply-To: <D8408FE7-9C9A-4FFE-B24F-2B268BA88842@law.du.edu>
References: <D8408FE7-9C9A-4FFE-B24F-2B268BA88842@law.du.edu>
Message-ID: <9ompnahh132rhphi6or6tub1j77gkq782c@4ax.com>

For the KXPA100 issue (PA MODE ON to OFF), just leave the KXPA100
powered on full-time.  This works in my mobile installation, meaning
the KXPA100 is always available.  This is not true if the KX3 is
removed, when PA MODE will default OFF because of the missing KXPA100.
My mobile installation has a switched circuit for the KXPA100 and KX3.

If you have a separate power supply for the KXPA100, make sure it's on
before powering on the the attached KX3.  

73,
matt
W6NIA

On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 23:39:17 +0000, you wrote:

>Finally got the KX3 ? PX3 ? KXPA100 system cabled together and on the air 
>today, all of the F/W updated.  All OK but for two anomalies, one of them 
>a bit of a nuisance.
> 
>
>The PX3 shows a double sharp spike offset from the tuned frequency about 
>600 and 700 Hz (an eyeball estimate), at about S2.  The twin spikes just 
>stay there a fixed offset away from the marker as the rest of the band 
>marches by.  (The PX3 is in tracking mode ? I haven?t downloaded the beta 
>revision.)  Same thing on every band I?ve tried ? 10, 15, 20 and 40.  Some 
>other symptoms:
> 
>
>The small bit of spectrum (about 100 Hz) between the two spikes is devoid 
>of signal ? jet black even when the ref level is set so that the rest of 
>the waterfall span is showing blue.
> 
>
>The spikes appear in CW mode but not in AM or SSB.  They switch sides when 
>I switch cw sidebands ? 600 and 700 Hz below center when the KX3 is in CW 
>rev, and the same distance above center when it?s changed back.
> 
>
>When the i/Q cable is disconnected at either end, the spikes slowly 
>decline.  But with the cable connected and the KX3 power turned off, they 
>are still there on the PX3.
> 
>
>The spikes remain at 600 and 700 Hz offset from center regardless of the 
>span setting.
> 
>
>Weird.  And troubling, because 300 - 600 Hz is a typical XIT offset I use 
>in pileups when the DX isn?t working ?up.?  Anyone have any ideas?  Anyone 
>seen this before?
> 
>
>The other glitch is much less trouble.  The KX3 setting sometimes switches 
>itself from PA Mode On to PA Mode off.  I think I?ve figured it out ? if I 
>turn the KXPA100 power off before turning the KX3 off, or if I turn the 
>KX3 on before powering up the amp, the KX3 must be sensing ?no amp? and so 
>switching itself back to PA Mode Off.  But then when the amp comes on, the 
>KX3 doesn?t sense that and switch back to PA Mode On. An intelligent 
>default choice, maybe.  Any way to defeat it?
> 
>
>
>Ted, KN1CBR
>
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From w4grj at satterfield.org  Sun Jun 14 07:25:46 2015
From: w4grj at satterfield.org (w4grj)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 07:25:46 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 & P3 for sale
In-Reply-To: <557CC2DB.7070401@nycap.rr.com>
References: <557C8145.2050601@nycap.rr.com> <557CC2DB.7070401@nycap.rr.com>
Message-ID: <000601d0a694$dc47ad80$94d70880$@org>


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2- KF3A 2.8k 8pole filter
KFL3A 1.8k 8pole filter
KFL3A 400 8pole filter
KFL3A 6k 8pole filter
KFL3B 13k FM filter

$3400 includes shipping and insurance

P3 serial 1020 Factory assembled
$635

All perfect condition, non smoking environment. Prefer to sell K3 & P3 as
package, will include associated interconnect cables.

Please reply offline.
Tnx,
Jack


From lladerman at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 14 10:31:06 2015
From: lladerman at earthlink.net (W0FK)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 07:31:06 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] FS: W2 Wattmeter
Message-ID: <1434292266675-7603996.post@n2.nabble.com>

Elecraft W2 Wattmeter with HF 1-2000 W sensor for 1-54 MHz. $199 shipped
CONUS. PLease email me off the list - lladerman at earthlink.net   Lou, W0FK



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From k5atg.aaron at gmail.com  Sun Jun 14 12:24:35 2015
From: k5atg.aaron at gmail.com (Aaron Scott)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 11:24:35 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Alignment Part 1
Message-ID: <CADENs286OW6jcN-FOyQSGgaoBXSgw6UdFMD16i5KNSgA=2Mzew@mail.gmail.com>

I'm building a K2 and I'm at the Alignment and Test Part 1. When I turn it
on is says ELECRAFT then it changes to a screen that says 0250. I can't
find this problem in the manual. Does anyone know what this is and how to
fix it?

-- 
'73
Aaron Scott
K5ATG

From kevinr at coho.net  Sun Jun 14 12:38:51 2015
From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr at coho.net)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 09:38:51 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Message-ID: <557DAE1B.3020704@coho.net>

Please join us this afternoon and evening.

14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday)
  7045 kHz at 0100z Monday (6 PM PDT Sunday)

     73,
         Kevin. KD5ONS
-

From k6ll.dave at gmail.com  Sun Jun 14 12:52:55 2015
From: k6ll.dave at gmail.com (Dave Hachadorian)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 09:52:55 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Noise
Message-ID: <77A6F0A329374F8DB3C8285F1397B960@Toshiba>

Yesterday afternoon, I installed new KSYN3A Synthesizer Boards in 
my two K3's.  This morning, tuning one of the rigs across a dead 
6 Meter band, I can hear a weak increase in white noise whenever 
I turn the VFO knob.  I didn't notice that yesterday morning. 
Perhaps the new synthesizer board has reduced the Rx noise 
threshold such that I can now hear that noise?  This particular 
K3 is s/n 059, and I know there is a VFO Noise Reduction Mod 
available, but that mod describes the noise as "ticks."  The 
noise I'm hearing is a small increase in white noise, even with 
the 6 meter beam connected.

The noise increase is obvious, but subtle, and I wouldn't 
consider it a hindrance to operation, but it has raised my 
curiosity as to why I am just now hearing it.

Ideas would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ


From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Sun Jun 14 13:24:36 2015
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 10:24:36 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Noise
In-Reply-To: <77A6F0A329374F8DB3C8285F1397B960@Toshiba>
References: <77A6F0A329374F8DB3C8285F1397B960@Toshiba>
Message-ID: <557DB8D4.4000805@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On Sun,6/14/2015 9:52 AM, Dave Hachadorian wrote:
> The noise increase is obvious, but subtle, and I wouldn't consider it 
> a hindrance to operation, but it has raised my curiosity as to why I 
> am just now hearing it.

I'm not hearing that noise, but the birdies are driving me nuts on 6M. 
There are many frequencies where a birdie will show up on the P3, so you 
tune for it and realize it's a birdie, not a signal. But the whole 
purpose of the P3 is to help find signals. I'm seeing birdies 6 dB above 
the noise floor!

Wayne -- this has been an issue for a LOOONG time. Is there a fix on the 
horizon?

73, Jim K9YC

From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Sun Jun 14 13:30:37 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 13:30:37 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Alignment Part 1
In-Reply-To: <CADENs286OW6jcN-FOyQSGgaoBXSgw6UdFMD16i5KNSgA=2Mzew@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADENs286OW6jcN-FOyQSGgaoBXSgw6UdFMD16i5KNSgA=2Mzew@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <557DBA3D.1030000@embarqmail.com>

Aaron,

One common source of problems like that are caused by the encoder board 
contacting the pins on the Control Board.
You can test for that condition by removing the screws from the Control 
Board and tilting the to of it toward the rear of the K2 (as added 
assurance that there is no contact, slide a piece of card stock behind 
the encoder board).
After that, see if the display is normal.  If it is, then get yourself 
some plush cutters and flush trim all the leads on the encoder board and 
also the leads on the control board where the encoder board can make 
contact.  As a further measure, you can glue some fish paper on the 
encoder board or lacking that, cover it with a couple strips of 
electrical tape.

If those steps do not correct it, tell us the full contents of the 
display after ELECRAFT has timed out.

If you do not have flush cutters, I have found inexpensive flush cutters 
in the tools area of Home Depot - look for Xcelite (or Cooper or Lufkin) 
170M - they are often packaged with a pair of small long nose pliers # 378M.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/14/2015 12:24 PM, Aaron Scott wrote:
> I'm building a K2 and I'm at the Alignment and Test Part 1. When I turn it
> on is says ELECRAFT then it changes to a screen that says 0250. I can't
> find this problem in the manual. Does anyone know what this is and how to
> fix it?
>


From wd4ahz at gte.net  Sun Jun 14 17:06:39 2015
From: wd4ahz at gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 17:06:39 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Keying K3 voice keyer with N3FJP
Message-ID: <557DECDF.4040300@gte.net>

Setting up N3FJP 4.7 for Field Day in a couple weeks.

We'll be using K3s, and am trying to get the software to fire off the M1 
- M4 voice messages with the Function Keys.

I've got it working with N1MM using the

{CAT1ASC SWT21;} etc commands.

I "thought" I had it working at one time with N3FJP, using the command 
string CAT1ASC SWT21; but doesn't seem to be working now.

Does anyone know the correct command string or what other setting I 
might be missing?  I'm using the Radio control COM Port.

Thanks, Ron

From gwwa5uih at hotmail.com  Sun Jun 14 17:50:42 2015
From: gwwa5uih at hotmail.com (George Winship, NC5G)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 14:50:42 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Noise
In-Reply-To: <77A6F0A329374F8DB3C8285F1397B960@Toshiba>
References: <77A6F0A329374F8DB3C8285F1397B960@Toshiba>
Message-ID: <1434318642570-7604003.post@n2.nabble.com>


<  This morning, tuning one of the rigs across a dead 
< 6 Meter band, I can hear a weak increase in white noise whenever 
< I turn the VFO knob.  

Dave,

I don't have a K3, but check to see if the NB is turned on on that K3. I
notice the same thing on my KX3 when The NB is turned on.

73, George NC5G



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From toms at xmission.com  Sun Jun 14 17:59:35 2015
From: toms at xmission.com (Tom Schaefer)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 17:59:35 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Keying K3 voice keyer with N3FJP
In-Reply-To: <557DECDF.4040300@gte.net>
References: <557DECDF.4040300@gte.net>
Message-ID: <F9AC0B82-0910-44DE-979A-43177724D1FB@xmission.com>

Cat1ASC is N1MM's prefix to send ASCII data to radio 1 if I recall. The K3 command part would be SWT21; in that command. I did not confirm that is the button press for 1. 

In different software, you need to see what command tells the logging software to send to the radio 1 port. For example, in TR4W, the command would be SRS1=SWT21; so different programs have different ways to send commands to the radio but the radio command part remains the same. 

Again, just using your SWT21 as an example. 


Regards 

Tom NY4I 
Principal Solutions Architect
Better Software Solutions, Inc. 
727-437-2771

> On Jun 14, 2015, at 5:06 PM, Ron Wetjen <wd4ahz at gte.net> wrote:
> 
> Setting up N3FJP 4.7 for Field Day in a couple weeks.
> 
> We'll be using K3s, and am trying to get the software to fire off the M1 - M4 voice messages with the Function Keys.
> 
> I've got it working with N1MM using the
> 
> {CAT1ASC SWT21;} etc commands.
> 
> I "thought" I had it working at one time with N3FJP, using the command string CAT1ASC SWT21; but doesn't seem to be working now.
> 
> Does anyone know the correct command string or what other setting I might be missing?  I'm using the Radio control COM Port.
> 
> Thanks, Ron
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From wd4ahz at gte.net  Sun Jun 14 18:20:52 2015
From: wd4ahz at gte.net (Ron Wetjen)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:20:52 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Keying K3 voice keyer with N3FJP
In-Reply-To: <557DECDF.4040300@gte.net>
References: <557DECDF.4040300@gte.net>
Message-ID: <557DFE44.6000606@gte.net>

Just poked around on the N3FJP Group, and found a couple messages there 
... N3FJP doesn't have a CAT command function.  Guess that takes care of 
that.

Ron



From kl7uw at acsalaska.net  Sun Jun 14 18:31:18 2015
From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 14:31:18 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Question about KRX3 install
Message-ID: <201506142231.t5EMVIvB027440@mail42c28.carrierzone.com>

One combo you did not cover was with KRX3 installed and no KAT3 
installed.  That is my configuration.  I ran input to the KRX3 to the 
separate BNC.  But the KRX3 menu with ATU selected does not connect 
my KRX3 to the main ANT.  Essentially I have either "not installed" 
or BNC as choice for KRX3.

That suits my use fine.  I mainly use the KRX3 to receive the 28-MHz 
IF of my dual-receiver 144-28 transverter.  Other use might be a 
separate low-noise Rx antenna on 600m (someday).  I do little HF 
operating and single antenna connection is fine (external coax switch 
used for antenna selection).

I have an "old" Drake MN-2000 2kW rated manual tuner which handles my 
HF uses (do not chase HF-DX or HF-contest).

73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
     "Kits made by KL7UW"
Dubus Mag business:
     dubususa at gmail.com


From km4ik.ian at gmail.com  Sun Jun 14 18:31:55 2015
From: km4ik.ian at gmail.com (Ian - Ham)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:31:55 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Results 14 June 2015
Message-ID: <00c401d0a6f1$eb6183b0$c2248b10$@gmail.com>

Conditions were abysmal for today's net. Despite the poor conditions, we
still had 21 total check-ins, myself included. Thank you to everyone for
your patience today while we dealt with both bad conditions and what
appeared to be some deliberate QRM. Thank you also to those stations that
acted as relays today.

 

As a reminder to everyone, I will be net control from outside Atlanta again
next week. No net on June 28 due to Field Day.

 

Today's check-ins were:

 

VE7EAR                Al            BC           KX3        3158

N6JW                    John      CA          K3           936

NC0JW                  Jim         CO          KX3        1356

WB9JNZ               Eric         IL             K3           4017

KC0XT                   Dave      CA          KX3        6980

W4RKS                  Jim         TX           K3           3618

W8OV                   Dave      TX           K3           3139

W7HD/M             Ron        AZ           KX3        6966

W6NIA                  Matt      CA          K3           6

K6WDE/KH6       Dave      HI            KX3        4599

AI6II                       Mike      CA          K3           4454

KF5IMA                Bruce    MS         K2           3575

VE6EI                     Joel        AB          KX3        4129

NS7P                     Phil         OR          K3           1826

W0CZ                    Ken        ND          K3           457

VE6HBS                Bryan    AB          K2           6175

KS7D                      Mike      FL            K2           4443

N2LRB                   Raul       NY          KX3        7743

W7QHD                Curt       AZ           K2           1538

W5SV                    Dave      TX           K3           5354

KM4IK                   Ian          GA          K3           281

 

Everyone have a great week this week!

 

73 de,

 

--Ian

Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik.ian at gmail.com <mailto:km4ik.ian at gmail.com> 

10-10 #74624, North Georgia Chapter #2038

PODXS 070 #1962
K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468

 



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From k6dgw at foothill.net  Sun Jun 14 18:36:25 2015
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:36:25 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Keying K3 voice keyer with N3FJP
In-Reply-To: <557DFE44.6000606@gte.net>
References: <557DECDF.4040300@gte.net> <557DFE44.6000606@gte.net>
Message-ID: <557E01E9.20609@foothill.net>

We bought a sound bar for our Panasonic TV.  It has Blue Tooth. 
Couldn't figure out how to turn the TV Blue Tooth on, finally called and 
talked to Jeremy, the Panasonic Teenager.  Jeremy searched a bit and 
then said, "That TV doesn't have Blue Tooth," to which my wife said, 
"You mean we bought the most expensive TV at RC Willy and it doesn't 
have Blue Tooth?!?!"  I felt vindicated at not being able to turn it on 
on the TV.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org

On 6/14/2015 3:20 PM, Ron Wetjen wrote:
> Just poked around on the N3FJP Group, and found a couple messages there
> .. N3FJP doesn't have a CAT command function.  Guess that takes care of
> that.


From toms at xmission.com  Sun Jun 14 19:37:35 2015
From: toms at xmission.com (Thomas Schaefer)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 19:37:35 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Question about KRX3 install
In-Reply-To: <201506142231.t5EMVIvB027440@mail42c28.carrierzone.com>
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Thanks.

Well, I figured it out in that based on reading Fred?s book and the email from Fred, I installed the cable from the ATU to the KRX3.

The issue is that the installation makes it seem like BOTH these items are optional (if you only want to run the sub RX off the main antenna and NOT do diversity reception of any sort).

I say that because the manual for the KRX3 install states if you do not want to di wither of the optional antenna steps to skip ahead. That is fine and I have no issue with that.

The challenge is the commands in the radio to enable the KRX3 are not intuitive to me. Maybe it is just me as I tend to be quite literal. I submit there should be config options. One is KRX3A with two options for ON or OFF and the other config item should be Sub RX AUX Ant with choices of NA, KAT3 or BNC. Short of two separate items, if the KRX3 config option was OFF, ON-MAIN, RX-KAT, RX-BNC that would be OK too.  That would make it more self-explanatory.

But, all is well, the SubRx and new synths are working, the new DVR is working and the service monitor says it all checks out.

Thanks to all that helped.

Regards,

Tom Schaefer
727-437-2771

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> On Jun 14, 2015, at 6:31 PM, Edward R Cole <kl7uw at acsalaska.net> wrote:
> 
> One combo you did not cover was with KRX3 installed and no KAT3 installed.  That is my configuration.  I ran input to the KRX3 to the separate BNC.  But the KRX3 menu with ATU selected does not connect my KRX3 to the main ANT.  Essentially I have either "not installed" or BNC as choice for KRX3.
> 
> That suits my use fine.  I mainly use the KRX3 to receive the 28-MHz IF of my dual-receiver 144-28 transverter.  Other use might be a separate low-noise Rx antenna on 600m (someday).  I do little HF operating and single antenna connection is fine (external coax switch used for antenna selection).
> 
> I have an "old" Drake MN-2000 2kW rated manual tuner which handles my HF uses (do not chase HF-DX or HF-contest).
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
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From n5ge at n5ge.com  Sun Jun 14 20:55:53 2015
From: n5ge at n5ge.com (Amateur Radio Operator N5GE)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 19:55:53 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Noise
In-Reply-To: <1434318642570-7604003.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <77A6F0A329374F8DB3C8285F1397B960@Toshiba>
	<1434318642570-7604003.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <9h8snad0iga386evn4bo3pdl2jntjicnpq@4ax.com>


I have no birdies on 6m K3 1055.



On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 14:50:42 -0700 (MST), you wrote:

>
><  This morning, tuning one of the rigs across a dead 
>< 6 Meter band, I can hear a weak increase in white noise whenever 
>< I turn the VFO knob.  
>
>Dave,
>
>I don't have a K3, but check to see if the NB is turned on on that K3. I
>notice the same thing on my KX3 when The NB is turned on.
>
>73, George NC5G


From vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk  Sun Jun 14 21:07:14 2015
From: vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk (Johnny Siu)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 01:07:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] ] K3 VFO Tuning Noise
In-Reply-To: <9h8snad0iga386evn4bo3pdl2jntjicnpq@4ax.com>
References: <9h8snad0iga386evn4bo3pdl2jntjicnpq@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <2046801493.1626946.1434330434474.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

I do not have tuning noise except a number of internal birdies in 10m band. ?Moving the cables around the KSYN3A area will minimize the birdies.
My K3 is an earlier model. ?I remember I did the tuning noise modification some years ago.
73
Johnny VR2XMC
      ???? Amateur Radio Operator N5GE <n5ge at n5ge.com>
 ???? "George Winship, NC5G" <gwwa5uih at hotmail.com> 
??(CC)? elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
 ????? 2015?06?15? (??) 8:55 AM
 ??? Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Noise
   

I have no birdies on 6m K3 1055.





On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 14:50:42 -0700 (MST), you wrote:

>
><? This morning, tuning one of the rigs across a dead 
>< 6 Meter band, I can hear a weak increase in white noise whenever 
>< I turn the VFO knob.? 
>
>Dave,
>
>I don't have a K3, but check to see if the NB is turned on on that K3. I
>notice the same thing on my KX3 when The NB is turned on.
>
>73, George NC5G

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From repair at willcoele.com  Sun Jun 14 21:44:04 2015
From: repair at willcoele.com (wa9fvp)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:44:04 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Noise
In-Reply-To: <77A6F0A329374F8DB3C8285F1397B960@Toshiba>
References: <77A6F0A329374F8DB3C8285F1397B960@Toshiba>
Message-ID: <1434332644748-7604012.post@n2.nabble.com>

The noise your hearing is caused by the frequency synthesizer, PLL trying to
acheave lock.  When you turn the tuning dial, the PLL circuit switches to
the new frequency.  The transients caused buy the frequency change creates a
small frequency jitter that increases the noise floor.

A lock/unlock signal from the PLL circuit can be used to mute the audio
during the tuning steps but muting process can also create noise.  The K3's
receiver noise floor is so low on 6 meters that the tuning transients are
well pronounced.

Jack WA9FVP
Willco Electronics.



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From la9nea at online.no  Mon Jun 15 02:00:12 2015
From: la9nea at online.no (Viggo Magnus Nilsen)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:00:12 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft XV144 transverter for sale.
Message-ID: <7a4802976526e41952f5a30ba8e1fee0@online.no>

 

Hello, 

Have an XV144 transverter IF 28 MHz for sale . 

73 Viggo LA9NEA 

 

From indians at xsmail.com  Mon Jun 15 08:30:39 2015
From: indians at xsmail.com (ok1rp)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 05:30:39 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft XV144 transverter for sale.
In-Reply-To: <7a4802976526e41952f5a30ba8e1fee0@online.no>
References: <7a4802976526e41952f5a30ba8e1fee0@online.no>
Message-ID: <1434371439427-7604014.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hello Viggo,

can You let me know the conditions and price off-list (qrz.com) please?
Maybe it will be interresting for friends in local contesting club...
Many thanks,

73 - Petr, OK1RP



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From indians at xsmail.com  Mon Jun 15 08:54:23 2015
From: indians at xsmail.com (ok1rp)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 05:54:23 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Noise
In-Reply-To: <77A6F0A329374F8DB3C8285F1397B960@Toshiba>
References: <77A6F0A329374F8DB3C8285F1397B960@Toshiba>
Message-ID: <1434372863114-7604015.post@n2.nabble.com>

Dave,

I remember that encoder tunning noise as same as birdies has been discussed
long time ago already. 

First of all regarding the birdies (if it is Your case also) check if all
screws inside the radio (modules which you had to remove for the new synths
installation) as same as the covers etc. are tightened enough. It was not my
case, but I remember that lot of folks reported that after checking that mni
birdies disappeared. (grounding, shielding etc.)

Also You can try to set SIG RMV function in CONFIG menu. See page 59 of the
manual...

Regarding the tunning noise (if I remember well but I am not sure) there was
some additional item in the menu to reduce this encoder noise so You can
check if it is ON and if it will help...

Sorry if it is not so helpful.

73 - Petr, OK1RP
K3 #778



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From wes at triconet.org  Mon Jun 15 13:01:29 2015
From: wes at triconet.org (Wes (N7WS))
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 10:01:29 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S shipping
Message-ID: <557F04E9.4030909@triconet.org>

Will the website shipping status be updated to reflect reality anytime soon?

Wes  N7WS

From djl at montana.com  Mon Jun 15 16:33:54 2015
From: djl at montana.com (Don Latham)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:33:54 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 with rigblaster
Message-ID: <097204eabb65350cbbe2c7343274d92c.squirrel@webmail.montana.com>

I'm trying to use a Rigblaster plus with my K2 with 100 watt amp and tuner.
I've also tried a MFJ TNC switch. Both for digital mode and microphone
switching. When I use these devices I get interference when in mic mode from
rf pickup. With the mic alone., no problem. Has anyone out there had this
problem? I've tried ferrite chokes on all lines, routing the cables in
different places, etc.etc. I'm totally stumped and very disappointed that I
have to manually replug everything to accomplish a simple (?) switching task.
Anyone out there faced this problem? Any advice?
Thanks
Don


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Six Mile Systems LLC
17850 Six Mile Road
Huson, MT, 59846

mail:  POBox 404
Frenchtown MT 59834-0404

VOX 406-626-4304
CEL 406-241-5093
Skype: buffler2
www.lightningforensics.com
www.sixmilesystems.com



From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Mon Jun 15 17:48:57 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:48:57 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 with rigblaster
In-Reply-To: <097204eabb65350cbbe2c7343274d92c.squirrel@webmail.montana.com>
References: <097204eabb65350cbbe2c7343274d92c.squirrel@webmail.montana.com>
Message-ID: <557F4849.1030905@embarqmail.com>

Don,

First get some copper braid or #10/12 stranded wire and bond things 
together.  bond from the computer to the Rigblaster, the Rigblaster to 
the K2, the K2 to the KAT100, and from there, bond the KAT100 to the 
station ground.
Secondly, make certain all your station equipment is powered from the 
same electrical receptacle (everything connected to the same 'green wire 
ground'.

What I am relating in simplified format is the same as you can find in 
K9YC's writings - see http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf  for a LOT 
more information on the subject, including the "why" of it all.
If you currently have all your station boxes connected to a bus bar 
behind the desk or to a single point station ground, look at what Jim is 
telling us in that presentation and try his grounding method instead - 
it is designed to reduce hum and noise in your audio circuits.  Using 
heavy wire or braid for the bonding assures that you still have good 
lightning protection in the shack.

If you have station ground rods driven that are not connected with heavy 
wire (#4 or #6) to the utility entrance ground, add that connection, not 
only for possible noise reduction, but also for your personal safety as 
well as compliance with National Electrical Code requirements.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/15/2015 4:33 PM, Don Latham wrote:
> I'm trying to use a Rigblaster plus with my K2 with 100 watt amp and tuner.
> I've also tried a MFJ TNC switch. Both for digital mode and microphone
> switching. When I use these devices I get interference when in mic mode from
> rf pickup. With the mic alone., no problem. Has anyone out there had this
> problem? I've tried ferrite chokes on all lines, routing the cables in
> different places, etc.etc. I'm totally stumped and very disappointed that I
> have to manually replug everything to accomplish a simple (?) switching task.
> Anyone out there faced this problem? Any advice?
> Thanks
> Don
>
>


From n4zr at contesting.com  Mon Jun 15 18:04:17 2015
From: n4zr at contesting.com (Pete Smith N4ZR)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 18:04:17 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 with rigblaster
In-Reply-To: <097204eabb65350cbbe2c7343274d92c.squirrel@webmail.montana.com>
References: <097204eabb65350cbbe2c7343274d92c.squirrel@webmail.montana.com>
Message-ID: <557F4BE1.2090506@contesting.com>

What mix ferrites are you using, Don?  How many turns?  Is there any 
difference in the intensity of the problem when you change bands?

73, Pete N4ZR
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<http://N1MM.hamdocs.com>. Check
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<http://reversebeacon.net>, now
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For spots, please use your favorite
"retail" DX cluster.

On 6/15/2015 4:33 PM, Don Latham wrote:
> I'm trying to use a Rigblaster plus with my K2 with 100 watt amp and tuner.
> I've also tried a MFJ TNC switch. Both for digital mode and microphone
> switching. When I use these devices I get interference when in mic mode from
> rf pickup. With the mic alone., no problem. Has anyone out there had this
> problem? I've tried ferrite chokes on all lines, routing the cables in
> different places, etc.etc. I'm totally stumped and very disappointed that I
> have to manually replug everything to accomplish a simple (?) switching task.
> Anyone out there faced this problem? Any advice?
> Thanks
> Don
>
>


From eric at elecraft.com  Mon Jun 15 19:45:21 2015
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:45:21 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S shipping
In-Reply-To: <557F04E9.4030909@triconet.org>
References: <557F04E9.4030909@triconet.org>
Message-ID: <557F6391.9060301@elecraft.com>

Absolutely. It looks like the K3S will start flowing this week. (-Fs first, 
followed by kits a week to ten days later.) As soon as that is confirmed, we'll 
update the status page and post here.

73,
Eric
/elecraft.com/

On 6/15/2015 10:01 AM, Wes (N7WS) wrote:
> Will the website shipping status be updated to reflect reality anytime soon?
>
> Wes  N7WS


From w4grj at satterfield.org  Mon Jun 15 20:03:19 2015
From: w4grj at satterfield.org (W4GRJ)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 20:03:19 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 & P3 For Sale
In-Reply-To: <000301d0a185$ee5c40d0$cb14c270$@org>
References: <0NPK00KGKU04Y740@vms172077.mailsrvcs.net>
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Message-ID: <3DA2F342-CC6C-435D-A58A-A251E796BC9B@satterfield.org>

P3 is sold
Jack
W4GRJ

On Jun 7, 2015, at 8:56 PM, w4grj <w4grj at satterfield.org> wrote:

For Sale K3 serial 3746 (Not K3S) Factory Assembled

K3/100
KAT3
KRX3
KXF3A
2- KF3A 2.8k 8pole filter
KFL3A 1.8k 8pole filter
KFL3A 400 8pole filter
KFL3A 6k 8pole filter
KFL3B 13k FM filter

$3650 includes shipping and insurance

P3 serial 1020 Factory assembled
$635

All perfect condition, non smoking environment. Prefer to sell K3 & P3 as
package, will include associated interconnect cables.

Please reply offline.
Tnx,
Jack
W4GRJ


From k2vco.vic at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 00:57:42 2015
From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 07:57:42 +0300
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 with rigblaster
In-Reply-To: <097204eabb65350cbbe2c7343274d92c.squirrel@webmail.montana.com>
References: <097204eabb65350cbbe2c7343274d92c.squirrel@webmail.montana.com>
Message-ID: <0AAABA26-7C18-48B1-BAAB-F79AA56FD38B@gmail.com>

K9YC's grounding and choking methods are one part of the solution. The other is reducing the amount of RF flowing on your station equipment. Off-center fed antennas and verticals often produce common-mode currents on feed lines. Changing the feed line length away from odd multiples of 1/4 wavelength helps, although you can make the situation worse on one band while improving it on another. Antennas should have chokes or baluns at the feed points, and it may help to also have a choke where the coax comes into the shack. Take care not to ground the feed line on the antenna side of the choke, because this 'shorts' it, rendering it ineffective. 

Vic 4X6GP/K2VCO 

> On Jun 15, 2015, at 11:33 PM, Don Latham <djl at montana.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to use a Rigblaster plus with my K2 with 100 watt amp and tuner.
> I've also tried a MFJ TNC switch. Both for digital mode and microphone
> switching. When I use these devices I get interference when in mic mode from
> rf pickup. With the mic alone., no problem. Has anyone out there had this
> problem? I've tried ferrite chokes on all lines, routing the cables in
> different places, etc.etc. I'm totally stumped and very disappointed that I
> have to manually replug everything to accomplish a simple (?) switching task.
> Anyone out there faced this problem? Any advice?
> Thanks
> Don
> 
> 
> -- 
> "Noli sinere nothos te opprimere"
> 
> Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL
> Six Mile Systems LLC
> 17850 Six Mile Road
> Huson, MT, 59846
> 
> mail:  POBox 404
> Frenchtown MT 59834-0404
> 
> VOX 406-626-4304
> CEL 406-241-5093
> Skype: buffler2
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> www.sixmilesystems.com
> 
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From skjasper at att.net  Tue Jun 16 01:22:36 2015
From: skjasper at att.net (NE9U - Jasper)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 00:22:36 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
Message-ID: <0D7D4F6B-0BD6-4B93-B0A6-850C0DECA359@att.net>


I was about to order a switching supply for portable/dxpedition use and thought the one on elecraft site must be a good one, but i see it is getting poor reviews on eham.net for RFI/noise generation issues.  

anyone have suggestions for a good quiet k3 switching supply?  

scott  ne9u


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From vk1zzgary at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 01:29:18 2015
From: vk1zzgary at gmail.com (Gary Gregory)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 15:29:18 +1000
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
In-Reply-To: <0D7D4F6B-0BD6-4B93-B0A6-850C0DECA359@att.net>
References: <0D7D4F6B-0BD6-4B93-B0A6-850C0DECA359@att.net>
Message-ID: <CA+MFBaHXBJswAttOchAhTHet3vN=EsipTDdK6xz8aYEfJiaD_w@mail.gmail.com>

Scott,

On the contrary, I have had two of these units since they were first
introduced to the market and I have used other operators units as well, all
without any issues at all and there have been numerous comments on the
reflector that have reflected this same experience.

I have only used my pair with both the K3 and KX3 and at no time have I had
any issues with noise from these units.

Previously I have had several switch mode supplies and they all introduced
noise at some point, unlike my experience with the SS30 units. Neither of
mine have the LED display.

Regards,
Gary

On 16 June 2015 at 15:22, NE9U - Jasper <skjasper at att.net> wrote:

>
> I was about to order a switching supply for portable/dxpedition use and
> thought the one on elecraft site must be a good one, but i see it is
> getting poor reviews on eham.net for RFI/noise generation issues.
>
> anyone have suggestions for a good quiet k3 switching supply?
>
> scott  ne9u
>
>
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From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Tue Jun 16 01:29:28 2015
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:29:28 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 with rigblaster
In-Reply-To: <557F4849.1030905@embarqmail.com>
References: <097204eabb65350cbbe2c7343274d92c.squirrel@webmail.montana.com>
	<557F4849.1030905@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <557FB438.2070503@audiosystemsgroup.com>


> I've also tried a MFJ TNC switch. Both for digital mode and microphone
> switching. When I use these devices I get interference when in mic 
> mode from
> rf pickup. With the mic alone., no problem.

In addition to Don's advice, I'll add this. Most electronic boxes have 
Pin One Problems, and that very likely includes all that you're trying 
to interconnect.  I suggest dumping the TNC switch and instead make a 
cable that goes from your Rigblaster to the K2 mic input, with shields 
connected to the CHASSIS of the K2. Build a simple 10:1 (-20dB) voltage 
divider as described in the link that Don gave you. It's often possible 
to put that inside the connectors -- it's a series R and a parallel R. I 
often put the series R in the connector for the driving box, and the 
parallel R in the mic connector.

If the bonding described in the link doesn't solve your problems, add a 
multi-turn ferrite choke to both of the cables between the K2 and the 
computer, and also to the cable connecting the Rigblaster to the 
computer.  5 turns through a typical #31 or #43 clamp-on is about right 
for 40M - 10M.

We have these problems because the guys who design ham gear and consumer 
gear and computer gear know nothing about RFI, and they ignore the 
advice of the audio engineers who discovered "The Pin One Problem" more 
than 20 years ago. The logic appears to be "audio is only 20-20,000 Hz, 
those guys can't possibly know as much about EE as we do -- our stuff 
goes to GHz!"

FWIW, I have no use for the dedicated ham interface boxes no matter 
whose name is on them -- the wiring interface for the ones I've seen are 
an invitation to RFI and hum/buzz problems, and most have Pin One 
Problems. A very good USB sound card can be bought for $70 (see the ASUS 
U5 Zonar), You can build a WinKey for about $75, or the Yankee Clipper 
SO2R box for about twice that cost.  A serial to serial cable is two 
connectors and some CAT5. Serial to USB adapters are inexpensive.

There are several tutorials on The Pin One Problem on my website.

73, Jim K9YC
Vice-Chair AES Standards Committee Working Group on EMC

From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Tue Jun 16 01:42:02 2015
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:42:02 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
In-Reply-To: <0D7D4F6B-0BD6-4B93-B0A6-850C0DECA359@att.net>
References: <0D7D4F6B-0BD6-4B93-B0A6-850C0DECA359@att.net>
Message-ID: <557FB72A.6090009@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On Mon,6/15/2015 10:22 PM, NE9U - Jasper wrote:
> I was about to order a switching supply for portable/dxpedition use and thought the one on elecraft site must be a good one, but i see it is getting poor reviews on eham.net for RFI/noise generation issues.

I had one of these that i used for several years until I blew it up (by 
mis-treating it).

Note, however, that most of us have varying levels of RF noise in our 
environments, and many of us connect equipment together poorly. Whether 
or not you hear noise from a particular product will depend on how much 
noise is in your environment, how close your antennas are to the noisy 
equipment, the frequencies on which you listen, and how you have 
interconnected things together.

I probe for RF noise using a Kenwood TH-F6A talkie in close proximity to 
the equipment and its wiring. I found the PowerWerx unit RF-quiet, and I 
plan to buy a replacement for it.

73, Jim K9YC

From vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk  Tue Jun 16 01:49:58 2015
From: vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk (Johnny Siu)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 05:49:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
In-Reply-To: <557FB72A.6090009@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <557FB72A.6090009@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <906957367.105200.1434433798384.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

I am using an Alinco DM330MVE, very quiet,?no RFI
http://www.alinco.com/Products/DM330MVE/
73
Johnny VR2XMC
?      ???? Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
 ???? elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
 ????? 2015?06?16? (??) 1:42 PM
 ??? Re: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
   
On Mon,6/15/2015 10:22 PM, NE9U - Jasper wrote:
> I was about to order a switching supply for portable/dxpedition use and thought the one on elecraft site must be a good one, but i see it is getting poor reviews on eham.net for RFI/noise generation issues.

I had one of these that i used for several years until I blew it up (by 
mis-treating it).

Note, however, that most of us have varying levels of RF noise in our 
environments, and many of us connect equipment together poorly. Whether 
or not you hear noise from a particular product will depend on how much 
noise is in your environment, how close your antennas are to the noisy 
equipment, the frequencies on which you listen, and how you have 
interconnected things together.

I probe for RF noise using a Kenwood TH-F6A talkie in close proximity to 
the equipment and its wiring. I found the PowerWerx unit RF-quiet, and I 
plan to buy a replacement for it.

73, Jim K9YC



  

From kenk3iu at cox.net  Tue Jun 16 05:43:38 2015
From: kenk3iu at cox.net (Ken K3IU)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 05:43:38 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
In-Reply-To: <gtQ51q00K45oxQM01tQ69e>
References: <gtQ51q00K45oxQM01tQ69e>
Message-ID: <557FEFCA.7020800@cox.net>

G'morning, Scott:
I have been using a SS30 for several years (before Elecraft 
began selling them) and have had no noise issues with it.
73, Ken K3IU
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 6/16/2015 1:22 AM, NE9U - Jasper wrote:
> I was about to order a switching supply for portable/dxpedition use and thought the one on elecraft site must be a good one, but i see it is getting poor reviews on eham.net for RFI/noise generation issues.
>
> anyone have suggestions for a good quiet k3 switching supply?
>
> scott  ne9u
>
>
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From mhvnmn at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 06:25:34 2015
From: mhvnmn at gmail.com (Marc Veeneman)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 06:25:34 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
In-Reply-To: <557FEFCA.7020800@cox.net>
References: <gtQ51q00K45oxQM01tQ69e> <557FEFCA.7020800@cox.net>
Message-ID: <2FB2E5AD-209D-4D21-8D9B-5A68CB947ECE@gmail.com>

Mine is 6 months old, the version with the LED display, and the moving birdies on 80 and 75 meters are so strong and so annoying that I turn the supply off and operate from batteries if I operate for only an hour or so.  I?m sorry I bought the PowerWerx even though it is good looking and a nice size for my small operating desk.

Apparently their quality control is a variable, just like my birdies.
? 
Marc  W8SDG

> On 6/16/2015 1:22 AM, NE9U - Jasper wrote:
>> I was about to order a switching supply for portable/dxpedition use and thought the one on elecraft site must be a good one, but i see it is getting poor reviews on eham.net for RFI/noise generation issues.
>> 
>> anyone have suggestions for a good quiet k3 switching supply?
>> 
>> scott  ne9u
>> 
>> 


From w2blc at nycap.rr.com  Tue Jun 16 06:49:27 2015
From: w2blc at nycap.rr.com (Bill)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 06:49:27 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
In-Reply-To: <2FB2E5AD-209D-4D21-8D9B-5A68CB947ECE@gmail.com>
References: <2FB2E5AD-209D-4D21-8D9B-5A68CB947ECE@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <557FFF37.5080003@nycap.rr.com>

I have had mine for about six months and use it only on the K3 station. 
No noise and rock solid voltage regulation.

Bill W2BLC K-Line


From n6axjohn at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 09:54:13 2015
From: n6axjohn at gmail.com (John Klewer)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 06:54:13 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] FS PR-6 6 Meter Low Noise Preamp
Message-ID: <CAAFJj=r_ZWAGg7DHftsBP_27qocfFFDFM8chUfCU9AMo4dqdQA@mail.gmail.com>

For sale Elecraft PR-6 6 meter low noise preamplifier in excellent
condition.

Includes everything supplied by Elecraft when purchased new.

Excellent low noise figure performance

Photograph available on request...please reply off list

Price is $100 shipped CONUS

From lists at subich.com  Tue Jun 16 09:57:05 2015
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 09:57:05 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 with rigblaster
In-Reply-To: <557FB438.2070503@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <097204eabb65350cbbe2c7343274d92c.squirrel@webmail.montana.com>	<557F4849.1030905@embarqmail.com>
	<557FB438.2070503@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <55802B31.2000603@subich.com>


On 2015-06-16 1:29 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
> FWIW, I have no use for the dedicated ham interface boxes no matter
> whose name is on them -- the wiring interface for the ones I've seen
> are an invitation to RFI and hum/buzz problems, and most have Pin
> One Problems. A very good USB sound card can be bought for $70 (see
> the ASUS U5 Zonar), You can build a WinKey for about $75, or the
> Yankee Clipper SO2R box for about twice that cost. A serial to serial
> cable is two connectors and some CAT5. Serial to USB adapters are
> inexpensive.

That's all well and good for someone with your experience and retired
with time on his hands.  However, when one counts the cost of all the
individual *kit* pieces - $300 to $400 - add USB to serial converters
(even though inexpensive they add up), a proper FSK interface like the
K0SM or K8UT devices, includes the time to build/integrate everything,
and then troubleshoot the interactions, the cost of dedicated ham
interface boxes is very reasonable for a single box, plug and play
solution.

The pin 1 problems go back to the transceiver - there isn't a single
amateur transceiver (that I know of) that properly bonds *all* signal
returns to the chassis.  Most of them don't even have a metal chassis
any more and many of those that do use non-conductive enamel or power
coating that prevents proper bonding in the first place.  Everything
is mounted on circuit boards with several inches of traces before the
return signal actually reaches the chassis (if it ever does).

Once the transceiver builds in a pin 1 problem, there is very little
that an interface - yours included - can do to solve the issue.  One
can only use balanced connections, twisted pair cables, isolation
transformers and bonding to minimize the problems.  Add the tremendous
lack of understanding about common mode RF (RF on the outside of the
feedline) and complete ignorance issues of high current returns (TX
current returning to a common power supply via accessories) and it's
a wonder that most amateur stations don't have wore problems than they
do.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV



From mzilmer at roadrunner.com  Tue Jun 16 09:58:32 2015
From: mzilmer at roadrunner.com (Matt Zilmer)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 06:58:32 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
In-Reply-To: <0D7D4F6B-0BD6-4B93-B0A6-850C0DECA359@att.net>
References: <0D7D4F6B-0BD6-4B93-B0A6-850C0DECA359@att.net>
Message-ID: <kfa0oa545m6cj8ckb76j12dcohrcalmpl3@4ax.com>

I have two SMSSs here:

Powerwerx SS30DV - used as aux supply for VHF FM and other aux
devices.

Samlex SEC1235M - used for K3, KX3, supplemental battery charge
current source.

Neither have appreciable RFI issues.

73,
matt
W6NIA

On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 00:22:36 -0500, you wrote:

>
>I was about to order a switching supply for portable/dxpedition use and thought the one on elecraft site must be a good one, but i see it is getting poor reviews on eham.net for RFI/noise generation issues.  
>
>anyone have suggestions for a good quiet k3 switching supply?  
>
>scott  ne9u
>
>
>Sent from Republic Wireless Cray-1
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From nw0m at embarqmail.com  Tue Jun 16 10:00:59 2015
From: nw0m at embarqmail.com (NW0M)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 07:00:59 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
In-Reply-To: <E25DA2C9776B40B197C2F8EF21F579B0@ejhPC>
References: <E25DA2C9776B40B197C2F8EF21F579B0@ejhPC>
Message-ID: <1434463259321-7604034.post@n2.nabble.com>

Last night I installed the new KXV3B board into my K3.  Yes, the pins are
just a bit long - maybe 1/16 inch.  Just long enough that the pins don't
clear the J66 socket as stated in the installation instructions.  

But after several tries, I was finally able to do it without clipping the
leads or any other modification.  With one hand, I asserted some upwards
pressure on the BNC connectors and some slight downwards pressure on the RF
board below.  Then with the other hand, I ran my finger along the pins and
was able to press them so they mated to the socket.  

Hope this helps.  
73, Mitch NW0M  




Having problems with install of the KXV3B upgrading from a KXV3A.
The pins are two long on the KXV3B, with BNC connectors up as far as they
will go in the rear slot?
I tried putting the pins in tilting the board with the BNC connectors not
out of the slot, it was too much of an angle, they will not go in?
I guess I can cut the pins shorter on the KXV3B but wanted to check on that
first.
Any help would be appreciated.  thank you 73
Emory  WM3M





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From hhoyt at mebtel.net  Tue Jun 16 10:20:40 2015
From: hhoyt at mebtel.net (Howard Hoyt)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 10:20:40 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
Message-ID: <558030B8.10802@mebtel.net>

Hi all,

The issue with PS-induced noise is not simple, it depends on several 
factors: transverse noise from the supply (RF current riding on the DC 
output) as well as common-mode due to PS input-to-output impedance.  
More info at:

https://proaudioeng.com/products/pae-kx33-ac-power-supply/

Thanks to Jim Brown, K9YC for the sanity check while researching the 
issue, and helping identify yet another reason to ensure common-mode 
choking of antenna systems!

Howie - WA4PSC

From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Tue Jun 16 10:27:31 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Mel Farrer via Elecraft)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 14:27:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
In-Reply-To: <kfa0oa545m6cj8ckb76j12dcohrcalmpl3@4ax.com>
References: <kfa0oa545m6cj8ckb76j12dcohrcalmpl3@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <653220317.3905288.1434464851980.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Another SMSS is the ColdFusion S-350-12.?? 12 VDC @29A,? No appreciable RFI, over 5 years in service $45.? 

Mel, K6KBE

      From: Matt Zilmer <mzilmer at roadrunner.com>
 To: NE9U - Jasper <skjasper at att.net> 
Cc: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 6:58 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
   
I have two SMSSs here:

Powerwerx SS30DV - used as aux supply for VHF FM and other aux
devices.

Samlex SEC1235M - used for K3, KX3, supplemental battery charge
current source.

Neither have appreciable RFI issues.

73,
matt
W6NIA

On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 00:22:36 -0500, you wrote:

>
>I was about to order a switching supply for portable/dxpedition use and thought the one on elecraft site must be a good one, but i see it is getting poor reviews on eham.net for RFI/noise generation issues.? 
>
>anyone have suggestions for a good quiet k3 switching supply?? 
>
>scott? ne9u
>
>
>Sent from Republic Wireless Cray-1
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From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Tue Jun 16 11:02:40 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Chortek Bob via Elecraft)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 15:02:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
In-Reply-To: <906957367.105200.1434433798384.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <557FB72A.6090009@audiosystemsgroup.com>
	<906957367.105200.1434433798384.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <860078408.3943430.1434466960755.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Johnny VR2XMC wrote - I am using an Alinco DM330MVE, very quiet,?no RFI
http://www.alinco.com/Products/DM330MVE/

I use the same supply. ?Works great - no RFI!73,
Bob/AA6VB
      From: Johnny Siu <vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk>
 To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> 
 Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 10:49 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
   
I am using an Alinco DM330MVE, very quiet,?no RFI
http://www.alinco.com/Products/DM330MVE/
73

?? ? ? ???? Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
 ???? elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
 ????? 2015?06?16? (??) 1:42 PM
 ??? Re: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
? 
On Mon,6/15/2015 10:22 PM, NE9U - Jasper wrote:
> I was about to order a switching supply for portable/dxpedition use and thought the one on elecraft site must be a good one, but i see it is getting poor reviews on eham.net for RFI/noise generation issues.

I had one of these that i used for several years until I blew it up (by 
mis-treating it).

Note, however, that most of us have varying levels of RF noise in our 
environments, and many of us connect equipment together poorly. Whether 
or not you hear noise from a particular product will depend on how much 
noise is in your environment, how close your antennas are to the noisy 
equipment, the frequencies on which you listen, and how you have 
interconnected things together.

I probe for RF noise using a Kenwood TH-F6A talkie in close proximity to 
the equipment and its wiring. I found the PowerWerx unit RF-quiet, and I 
plan to buy a replacement for it.

73, Jim K9YC



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From no9e at arrl.net  Tue Jun 16 11:32:23 2015
From: no9e at arrl.net (Ignacy)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 08:32:23 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
In-Reply-To: <0D7D4F6B-0BD6-4B93-B0A6-850C0DECA359@att.net>
References: <0D7D4F6B-0BD6-4B93-B0A6-850C0DECA359@att.net>
Message-ID: <1434468743749-7604038.post@n2.nabble.com>

All switching power supplies emit something but whether their noise is heard
or not depends on antennas. The noise is heard more with very close antennas
and not all all with those farther away. Also more with unbalanced antennas
especially is coax is part of the antenna system. 

There are many noise emitting sources that usually do not bother K3. For
instance, P3 emits very strong noise when checked with antenna close to it.
But I cannot hear any noise from P3 using my external antennas. 

I used MFJ 4125 and 4225. They generate weak moving streaks on P3 at my QTH,
but no problem.  Jetstream JTPS31MB is smaller and a bit quieter.

Ignacy, NO9E




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From kt5d at charter.net  Tue Jun 16 11:54:01 2015
From: kt5d at charter.net (GDR)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 11:54:01 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 and KX3 tuning noise
Message-ID: <7805ADA9-8177-49E5-93E2-58AF32ADE9E5@charter.net>

While tuning the KX3 I've noticed the noise floor jump up on the PX3. Seems to do it on all bands. Is this normal? Anyone have any idea about when fixed mode tuning will be issued in non beta form? 



From w7ox at socal.rr.com  Tue Jun 16 12:22:10 2015
From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 09:22:10 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 and KX3 tuning noise
In-Reply-To: <7805ADA9-8177-49E5-93E2-58AF32ADE9E5@charter.net>
References: <7805ADA9-8177-49E5-93E2-58AF32ADE9E5@charter.net>
Message-ID: <55804D32.5020501@socal.rr.com>

No such problem here.  Encoder noise?

Phil W7OX

On 6/16/15 8:54 AM, GDR wrote:
> While tuning the KX3 I've noticed the noise floor jump up on the PX3. Seems to do it on all bands. Is this normal? Anyone have any idea about when fixed mode tuning will be issued in non beta form?


From nf4l at comcast.net  Tue Jun 16 12:53:24 2015
From: nf4l at comcast.net (Mike Reublin NF4L)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 12:53:24 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 and KX3 tuning noise
In-Reply-To: <7805ADA9-8177-49E5-93E2-58AF32ADE9E5@charter.net>
References: <7805ADA9-8177-49E5-93E2-58AF32ADE9E5@charter.net>
Message-ID: <184DCDD9-50C4-4624-B04F-72023BAB022A@comcast.net>

On my K3/P3, I get a rise when the cursor crosses a screen boundary. Lasts a second or so.
73, Mike NF4L


> On Jun 16, 2015, at 11:54 AM, GDR <kt5d at charter.net> wrote:
> 
> While tuning the KX3 I've noticed the noise floor jump up on the PX3. Seems to do it on all bands. Is this normal? Anyone have any idea about when fixed mode tuning will be issued in non beta form? 
> 
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From jim at jtmiller.com  Tue Jun 16 13:22:08 2015
From: jim at jtmiller.com (Jim Miller)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 13:22:08 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3/PX3 RFI hunting tool?
Message-ID: <CACYeN9wBK6xROAiiR-4uZhQKoRZv0wEqZ3fcCgLWHOXZR2Whyg@mail.gmail.com>

I find it much easier to identify noise on my P3 rather than trying to
discern it on the K3 audio. Looking at a 200Khz presentation let's me see
what was just a buzz on the K3 as a big nasty moving hump on the P3.

I assume the same is true on the KX3/PX3 combo?

Is it feasible to lash the two together somehow and carry them around in
front of you as you walk around trying to find RFI?

I'm thinking of this as something for general portable use as well but a
killer for finding RFI on any of the ham bands. Right now I'm getting
clobbered on 6m and would love to walk around and find out where it's
coming from. But other bands get clobbered from time to time as well.

I already have a Tecsun for powerline hunting but it doesn't cover 6m. A HT
wouldn't have a bandscope which I think is nearly essential.

Thanks

Jim ab3cv

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 14:37:05 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft logo Heil mic -FOR SALE
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From eric at elecraft.com  Tue Jun 16 15:07:57 2015
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 12:07:57 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 and KX3 tuning noise
In-Reply-To: <55804D32.5020501@socal.rr.com>
References: <7805ADA9-8177-49E5-93E2-58AF32ADE9E5@charter.net>
	<55804D32.5020501@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <5580740D.2040107@elecraft.com>

The RX noise floor in the K3 is not likely changing in this case. If you are 
using signal averaging on the PX3, the average resets each time you change 
frequency. As a result the noise floor will be non-averaged during continuous 
tuning and appear higher. Once you stop it will average over the number of 
passes you have set and return to its previous lower value.

73,
Eric
/elecraft.com/

On 6/16/2015 9:22 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
> No such problem here.  Encoder noise?
>
> Phil W7OX
>
> On 6/16/15 8:54 AM, GDR wrote:
>> While tuning the KX3 I've noticed the noise floor jump up on the PX3. Seems 
>> to do it on all bands. Is this normal? Anyone have any idea about when fixed 
>> mode tuning will be issued in non beta form?

From eric at elecraft.com  Tue Jun 16 15:10:37 2015
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 12:10:37 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 and KX3 tuning noise
In-Reply-To: <5580740D.2040107@elecraft.com>
References: <7805ADA9-8177-49E5-93E2-58AF32ADE9E5@charter.net>	<55804D32.5020501@socal.rr.com>
	<5580740D.2040107@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <558074AD.9020503@elecraft.com>

Of course, I meant KX3. :-)
Eric
/elecraft.com/

On 6/16/2015 12:07 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
> The RX noise floor in the K3 is not likely changing in this case. If you are 
> using signal averaging on the PX3, the average resets each time you change 
> frequency. As a result the noise floor will be non-averaged during continuous 
> tuning and appear higher. Once you stop it will average over the number of 
> passes you have set and return to its previous lower value.
>
> 73,
> Eric
> /elecraft.com/
>
> On 6/16/2015 9:22 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
>> No such problem here.  Encoder noise?
>>
>> Phil W7OX
>>
>> On 6/16/15 8:54 AM, GDR wrote:
>>> While tuning the KX3 I've noticed the noise floor jump up on the PX3. Seems 
>>> to do it on all bands. Is this normal? Anyone have any idea about when fixed 
>>> mode tuning will be issued in non beta form?
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From la9nea at online.no  Tue Jun 16 15:14:34 2015
From: la9nea at online.no (Viggo Magnus Nilsen)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 21:14:34 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft XV144 transverter for sale.( Sold)
Message-ID: <e51ff3440a19dc75ab652cd2ccd93a7e@online.no>

 

Hello Elecrafters 

Many thanks for many reply's on my ''sale-mail'' 

The XV144 is on it's way to the new owner in USA., to the first replyer
on the ''sale-mail'' 

73' Viggo LA9NEA 

 

From rpfjeld at outlook.com  Tue Jun 16 15:58:26 2015
From: rpfjeld at outlook.com (Richard Fjeld)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 14:58:26 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
In-Reply-To: <1434468743749-7604038.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <0D7D4F6B-0BD6-4B93-B0A6-850C0DECA359@att.net>
	<1434468743749-7604038.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <BLU437-SMTP774DADDEDF9EC4B5977A97BFA70@phx.gbl>

On 6/16/2015 10:32 AM, Ignacy wrote:
> All switching power supplies emit something but whether their noise is heard
> or not depends on antennas. The noise is heard more with very close antennas
> and not all all with those farther away. Also more with unbalanced antennas
> especially is coax is part of the antenna system.
>
> There are many noise emitting sources that usually do not bother K3. For
> instance, P3 emits very strong noise when checked with antenna close to it.
> But I cannot hear any noise from P3 using my external antennas.
>
> I used MFJ 4125 and 4225. They generate weak moving streaks on P3 at my QTH,
> but no problem.  Jetstream JTPS31MB is smaller and a bit quieter.
>
> Ignacy, NO9E
>
>
>
>
>
FWIW, a comment to say I have noticed in threads like this that I had 
been using the same power supplies
(several) that people are criticizing, and mine have been working 
perfectly.  Your analysis may be why.

One exception could be noted.  I do have a SS-30A that I had to solder 
the fan wires on the board to eliminate a whine
that could be heard in tx/rx when the fan would run, but no problem 
since.  Perhaps the operating frequency need be stated.

Dick, n0ce




From n1al at sonic.net  Tue Jun 16 19:49:53 2015
From: n1al at sonic.net (Alan)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:49:53 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 and KX3 tuning noise
In-Reply-To: <5580740D.2040107@elecraft.com>
References: <7805ADA9-8177-49E5-93E2-58AF32ADE9E5@charter.net>	<55804D32.5020501@socal.rr.com>
	<5580740D.2040107@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <5580B621.4050306@sonic.net>

Right.  If you are in fixed-tune mode the averaging does not reset 
except when the VFO runs off the edge of the screen.  In tracking mode 
the averaging resets every time the VFO moves more than about one pixel 
on the display.

Alan N1AL


On 06/16/2015 12:07 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
> The RX noise floor in the K3 is not likely changing in this case. If you
> are using signal averaging on the PX3, the average resets each time you
> change frequency. As a result the noise floor will be non-averaged
> during continuous tuning and appear higher. Once you stop it will
> average over the number of passes you have set and return to its
> previous lower value.
>
> 73,
> Eric
> /elecraft.com/
>
> On 6/16/2015 9:22 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
>> No such problem here.  Encoder noise?
>>
>> Phil W7OX
>>
>> On 6/16/15 8:54 AM, GDR wrote:
>>> While tuning the KX3 I've noticed the noise floor jump up on the PX3.
>>> Seems to do it on all bands. Is this normal? Anyone have any idea
>>> about when fixed mode tuning will be issued in non beta form?
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From k7jltextra at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 21:01:20 2015
From: k7jltextra at gmail.com (John K7JLT)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 18:01:20 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 problem
Message-ID: <59i83ml6lvpjj8768070ncts.1434502880355@email.android.com>

I have not heard anything from Elecraft about this problem.

John K7JLT

"Dauer, Edward" <edauer at law.du.edu> wrote:

>Just saw your posts in the archives.  I am experiencing the same, except that in my case there are two narrow S2 spikes at either end of the empty gap.  Has anyone at the factory ever commented or explained what could be done?
>
>Ted, KN1CBR

From w2lj at verizon.net  Tue Jun 16 21:12:40 2015
From: w2lj at verizon.net (Larry Makoski)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 21:12:40 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] NAQCC Milliwatt Sprint Wednesday night
Message-ID: <4d7a18c569d5884ab8ca091bf62e07f0@192.168.1.3>

Tomorrow night, June 17th is the NAQCC June milliwatt sprint.  It will be held from 8:30-10:30PM EDT, 7:30-9:30PM CDT , 6:30-8:30PM MDT, 5:30-7:30PM PDT, which translates as Thursday, June 18th, 0030 to 0230Z in all cases.

For all the "official" information, please go to:

http://naqcc.info/sprint201506mw.html

There you will find all the details as to time, frequencies and other important
information. The details differ a bit from our regular monthly sprints, so check them out beforehand.
See you on the bands with QRPp!
73 de Larry W2LJ on behalf of the NAQCC

From mteberle at mchsi.com  Tue Jun 16 23:04:47 2015
From: mteberle at mchsi.com (Michael Eberle)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 22:04:47 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
In-Reply-To: <1434463259321-7604034.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <E25DA2C9776B40B197C2F8EF21F579B0@ejhPC>
	<1434463259321-7604034.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <5580E3CF.7080600@mchsi.com>

I just removed the KIO3 modules and the rear panel to avoid having to 
cut pins or bend boards.  The fan panel had to be removed to access a 
screw holding the rear panel to the KPA100 shield though.

Mike
KI0HA

On 6/16/2015 9:00 AM, NW0M wrote:
> Last night I installed the new KXV3B board into my K3.  Yes, the pins are
> just a bit long - maybe 1/16 inch.  Just long enough that the pins don't
> clear the J66 socket as stated in the installation instructions.
>
> But after several tries, I was finally able to do it without clipping the
> leads or any other modification.  With one hand, I asserted some upwards
> pressure on the BNC connectors and some slight downwards pressure on the RF
> board below.  Then with the other hand, I ran my finger along the pins and
> was able to press them so they mated to the socket.
>
> Hope this helps.
> 73, Mitch NW0M
>
>
>
>
>


From frantz at pwpconsult.com  Wed Jun 17 02:10:19 2015
From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 23:10:19 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Screws
Message-ID: <r422Ps-1075i-4F3C0B3D75564AF488DD082D0A983018@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>

It's always nice to see Lisa Jones on the return address of a 
package. In my case, the package had the new synth and the 
internal antenna tuner. I installed them together with no 
problems, but I noticed that many of the screws on the outside 
of the K3 were loose. I distinctly remember tightening all the 
screws when I last had the top off, and the radio has mostly sat 
on my operating desk, so outside of field day and a trip for the 
California QSO party, it has experienced very little vibration 
and other physical events which can loosen screws.

I suggest checking the screws every once in a while. It's 
probably a good idea to check the internal ones as well, but I 
already had the cover back on. Remember that tight screws are 
needed to keep internal noise down.

If the radio is going to be used in a high vibration 
environment, like a car, sealing the screws with Loctite might 
be a good idea.

73 Bill AE6JV

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From fptownsend at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 17 03:02:34 2015
From: fptownsend at earthlink.net (Fred Townsend)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 00:02:34 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
In-Reply-To: <2FB2E5AD-209D-4D21-8D9B-5A68CB947ECE@gmail.com>
References: <gtQ51q00K45oxQM01tQ69e> <557FEFCA.7020800@cox.net>
	<2FB2E5AD-209D-4D21-8D9B-5A68CB947ECE@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000301d0a8cb$9985bad0$cc913070$@earthlink.net>

Marc I do RFI for a living. When I purchased my PowerWerx I made sure it was returnable if I found noise on it. I checked and found everything was well below published specifications so I retained the supply and have very successfully used it in the Sierras where there is virtually no man made noise which makes it sheer joy to operate. This unit was purchased before the model with LED displays was even available. 

Back in the days where commercial transmitters had scores of meters it was standard practice to shield those meters so RF would not leak out of the transmitter cabinet. I traced a problem in one HP unit to an unshielded LCD display. I suspect it may be the LED display itself in your PowerWerx that is causing your RFI. Personally I do not see the need of the meters when I can read the voltage on the K3 itself. After all it is the voltage at the K3 that counts. Not the voltage at the power supply.

73, Fred, AE6QL

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Marc Veenemanno made
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 3:26 AM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Cc: NE9U - Jasper
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply

Mine is 6 months old, the version with the LED display, and the moving birdies on 80 and 75 meters are so strong and so annoying that I turn the supply off and operate from batteries if I operate for only an hour or so.  I?m sorry I bought the PowerWerx even though it is good looking and a nice size for my small operating desk.

Apparently their quality control is a variable, just like my birdies.
?
Marc  W8SDG

> On 6/16/2015 1:22 AM, NE9U - Jasper wrote:
>> I was about to order a switching supply for portable/dxpedition use and thought the one on elecraft site must be a good one, but i see it is getting poor reviews on eham.net for RFI/noise generation issues.
>> 
>> anyone have suggestions for a good quiet k3 switching supply?
>> 
>> scott  ne9u
>> 
>> 

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From vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk  Wed Jun 17 04:35:23 2015
From: vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk (Johnny Siu)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 08:35:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S stainless screws
Message-ID: <1556341241.262562.1434530123491.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Hello Group,
As you are aware, I was the naughty one who always complaint about rusting screws in K3. ?Elecraft now does listen and the K3S is coming with stainless screws as standard.
For a price tag of over USD2000, it was difficult to understand why the screws in K3 were rusting.
Anyway, I am now very pleased that Elecraft does listen to its customers. Well done !
73
Johnny VR2XMC

From indians at xsmail.com  Wed Jun 17 05:10:10 2015
From: indians at xsmail.com (ok1rp)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 02:10:10 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Screws
In-Reply-To: <r422Ps-1075i-4F3C0B3D75564AF488DD082D0A983018@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
References: <r422Ps-1075i-4F3C0B3D75564AF488DD082D0A983018@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
Message-ID: <1434532210387-7604055.post@n2.nabble.com>

Bill,

You would like to say that "many of the screws on the outside of the K3 were
loose" during service works at Elecraft? I am a bit worrying in that case as
my radio is coming back to home also and the placing and enough tightening
all the screws is mandatory to keep down the internal noise as same as keep
most birdies off...
Nevertheless I am still confident to guys from Elecraft service! 

73 - Petr, OK1RP 
http://ok1rp.blogspot.com



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From jh3sif at sumaq.jp  Wed Jun 17 05:13:10 2015
From: jh3sif at sumaq.jp (Keith Onishi)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 18:13:10 +0900
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S stainless screws
In-Reply-To: <1556341241.262562.1434530123491.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1556341241.262562.1434530123491.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <03772A54-441F-4F6A-82B9-43B5998D9DE3@sumaq.jp>

Stainless screws are available for K3 as an option. When I ordered a K3 kit, I ordered the optional stainless screw kit with them.

Best regards,
Kiichiro Onishi, JH3SIF



2015/06/17 17:35?Johnny Siu <vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk> ??????:

> Hello Group,
> As you are aware, I was the naughty one who always complaint about rusting screws in K3.  Elecraft now does listen and the K3S is coming with stainless screws as standard.
> For a price tag of over USD2000, it was difficult to understand why the screws in K3 were rusting.
> Anyway, I am now very pleased that Elecraft does listen to its customers. Well done !
> 73
> Johnny VR2XMC
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From vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk  Wed Jun 17 05:49:19 2015
From: vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk (Johnny Siu)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 09:49:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S stainless screws
In-Reply-To: <03772A54-441F-4F6A-82B9-43B5998D9DE3@sumaq.jp>
References: <03772A54-441F-4F6A-82B9-43B5998D9DE3@sumaq.jp>
Message-ID: <590155843.301724.1434534559895.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Hello Kiichiro San,
Yes, I did order the K3SSKT stainless screws set for USD19.95.
My question is why for?such an elegant?radio of over USD2,000, stainless screws did not come as?a standard.? I don't believe Elecraft would?like to squeeze the last bit of?merely USD19.95.
Anyway, Elecraft took the customer's feedback and moves to the right direction for the K3S.
Congratulations to the K3S owners.
73
Johnny VR2XMC

?      ???? Keith Onishi <jh3sif at sumaq.jp>
 ???? Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> 
 ????? 2015?06?17? (??) 5:13 PM
 ??? Re: [Elecraft] K3S stainless screws
   
Stainless screws are available for K3 as an option. When I ordered a K3 kit, I ordered the optional stainless screw kit with them.

Best regards,
Kiichiro Onishi, JH3SIF



2015/06/17 17:35?Johnny Siu <vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk> ??????:

> Hello Group,
> As you are aware, I was the naughty one who always complaint about rusting screws in K3.? Elecraft now does listen and the K3S is coming with stainless screws as standard.
> For a price tag of over USD2000, it was difficult to understand why the screws in K3 were rusting.
> Anyway, I am now very pleased that Elecraft does listen to its customers. Well done !
> 73
> Johnny VR2XMC

  

From mhvnmn at gmail.com  Wed Jun 17 06:34:13 2015
From: mhvnmn at gmail.com (Marc Veeneman)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 06:34:13 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
In-Reply-To: <000301d0a8cb$9985bad0$cc913070$@earthlink.net>
References: <gtQ51q00K45oxQM01tQ69e> <557FEFCA.7020800@cox.net>
	<2FB2E5AD-209D-4D21-8D9B-5A68CB947ECE@gmail.com>
	<000301d0a8cb$9985bad0$cc913070$@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <A64E49F2-8439-4F6B-BC3B-DE64037D9770@gmail.com>

Fred, you could be right about the meters being the problem.  There are times when the birdies will be quite stable, and other times when the move completely across the P3 (or PX3) 40 kHz display in a dozen or so seconds.  At this moment they are stable but the meter reads a, also stable, 1.9 amps at 14.0 volts.

I?ll keep an eye on that.  

I bought directly from PowerWerx but my e-mail to them about the problem went unanswered.  Maybe a phone call is in order ? and I think I?d like them to substitute the meterless version.  

I wish I had your foresight.  Instead I relied on the reviews I could find on the Internet.  :-)
? 
Marc W8SDG 

> On Jun 17, 2015, at 3:02 AM, Fred Townsend <fptownsend at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> Marc I do RFI for a living. When I purchased my PowerWerx I made sure it was returnable if I found noise on it. I checked and found everything was well below published specifications so I retained the supply and have very successfully used it in the Sierras where there is virtually no man made noise which makes it sheer joy to operate. This unit was purchased before the model with LED displays was even available. 
> 
> Back in the days where commercial transmitters had scores of meters it was standard practice to shield those meters so RF would not leak out of the transmitter cabinet. I traced a problem in one HP unit to an unshielded LCD display. I suspect it may be the LED display itself in your PowerWerx that is causing your RFI. Personally I do not see the need of the meters when I can read the voltage on the K3 itself. After all it is the voltage at the K3 that counts. Not the voltage at the power supply.
> 
> 73, Fred, AE6QL
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Marc Veenemanno made
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 3:26 AM
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Cc: NE9U - Jasper
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
> 
> Mine is 6 months old, the version with the LED display, and the moving birdies on 80 and 75 meters are so strong and so annoying that I turn the supply off and operate from batteries if I operate for only an hour or so.  I?m sorry I bought the PowerWerx even though it is good looking and a nice size for my small operating desk.
> 
> Apparently their quality control is a variable, just like my birdies.
> ?
> Marc  W8SDG
> 
>> On 6/16/2015 1:22 AM, NE9U - Jasper wrote:
>>> I was about to order a switching supply for portable/dxpedition use and thought the one on elecraft site must be a good one, but i see it is getting poor reviews on eham.net for RFI/noise generation issues.
>>> 
>>> anyone have suggestions for a good quiet k3 switching supply?
>>> 
>>> scott  ne9u
>>> 
>>> 
> 
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From mhvnmn at gmail.com  Wed Jun 17 07:55:45 2015
From: mhvnmn at gmail.com (Marc Veeneman)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 07:55:45 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
In-Reply-To: <4061F53746C94E0187C6DE78888B40F2@ejhPC>
References: <gtQ51q00K45oxQM01tQ69e> <557FEFCA.7020800@cox.net>
	<2FB2E5AD-209D-4D21-8D9B-5A68CB947ECE@gmail.com>
	<000301d0a8cb$9985bad0$cc913070$@earthlink.net>
	<A64E49F2-8439-4F6B-BC3B-DE64037D9770@gmail.com>
	<4061F53746C94E0187C6DE78888B40F2@ejhPC>
Message-ID: <BDE2CB30-A89A-4D8A-8A84-47DF8E5A4477@gmail.com>

Emory, I've relied upon the power cable for grounding without giving a separate wire or strap any thought.  Today sometime I'm going to run a ground strap between the K3 and PowerWerx to see if that helps.  Thanks for sharing your experience and thanks for the suggestion.

I'm not sure why I didn't think of that myself.  It's just that I never think of a power supply in terms of station grounding. 

73,
Marc  W8SDG




> On Jun 17, 2015, at 7:45 AM, <ejkkjh at gmail.com> <ejkkjh at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Marc,
> I have two of those power supplies, both without the meter.  I did have RFI from one of them when I had power for a keyer connected to the front power pole connectors, disconnecting it, RFI  went away.  I also had a problem with RF getting into the transmit signal.  When I connected station ground to the power supply that went away, I think it was a ground loop.  With these changes I now have no RFI from either one.
> Hope this helps.  73
> Emory  WM3M
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Marc Veeneman
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:34 AM
> To: Fred Townsend
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
> 
> Fred, you could be right about the meters being the problem.  There are times when the birdies will be quite stable, and other times when the move completely across the P3 (or PX3) 40 kHz display in a dozen or so seconds. At this moment they are stable but the meter reads a, also stable, 1.9 amps at 14.0 volts.
> 
> I?ll keep an eye on that.
> 
> I bought directly from PowerWerx but my e-mail to them about the problem went unanswered.  Maybe a phone call is in order ? and I think I?d like them to substitute the meterless version.
> 
> I wish I had your foresight.  Instead I relied on the reviews I could find on the Internet.  :-)
> ?
> Marc W8SDG
> 
>> On Jun 17, 2015, at 3:02 AM, Fred Townsend <fptownsend at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Marc I do RFI for a living. When I purchased my PowerWerx I made sure it was returnable if I found noise on it. I checked and found everything was well below published specifications so I retained the supply and have very successfully used it in the Sierras where there is virtually no man made noise which makes it sheer joy to operate. This unit was purchased before the model with LED displays was even available.
>> 
>> Back in the days where commercial transmitters had scores of meters it was standard practice to shield those meters so RF would not leak out of the transmitter cabinet. I traced a problem in one HP unit to an unshielded LCD display. I suspect it may be the LED display itself in your PowerWerx that is causing your RFI. Personally I do not see the need of the meters when I can read the voltage on the K3 itself. After all it is the voltage at the K3 that counts. Not the voltage at the power supply.
>> 
>> 73, Fred, AE6QL
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Marc Veenemanno made
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 3:26 AM
>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Cc: NE9U - Jasper
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
>> 
>> Mine is 6 months old, the version with the LED display, and the moving birdies on 80 and 75 meters are so strong and so annoying that I turn the supply off and operate from batteries if I operate for only an hour or so. I?m sorry I bought the PowerWerx even though it is good looking and a nice size for my small operating desk.
>> 
>> Apparently their quality control is a variable, just like my birdies.
>> ?
>> Marc  W8SDG
>> 
>>>> On 6/16/2015 1:22 AM, NE9U - Jasper wrote:
>>>> I was about to order a switching supply for portable/dxpedition use and thought the one on elecraft site must be a good one, but i see it is getting poor reviews on eham.net for RFI/noise generation issues.
>>>> 
>>>> anyone have suggestions for a good quiet k3 switching supply?
>>>> 
>>>> scott  ne9u
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
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From gdanner at windstream.net  Wed Jun 17 08:27:27 2015
From: gdanner at windstream.net (George Danner)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 08:27:27 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Screws
In-Reply-To: <r422Ps-1075i-4F3C0B3D75564AF488DD082D0A983018@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
References: <r422Ps-1075i-4F3C0B3D75564AF488DD082D0A983018@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
Message-ID: <AEABB2689C0B4E54BDBD9CB201CB203C@GeorgenLouise>

Bill,
Be careful with Loctite on small screws; you may never get them loose 
without heating them.
A better solution is to use clear nail polish on the head.
Don't ask how I know!
73  George AI4VZ

-----Original Message----- 
From: Bill Frantz
... If the radio is going to be used in a high vibration
environment, like a car, sealing the screws with Loctite might
be a good idea.


From kt5d at charter.net  Wed Jun 17 08:42:48 2015
From: kt5d at charter.net (GDR)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 08:42:48 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 and KX3 tuning noise
Message-ID: <47729FFD-0B72-4A6F-91A5-0EF2F968F35E@charter.net>

Thanks to all who responded. Eric's explanation resolved the issue completely. Thank you sir!



From lboekeloo at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jun 17 09:01:57 2015
From: lboekeloo at sbcglobal.net (Larry Boekeloo)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 13:01:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] list
Message-ID: <1289597394.353953.1434546117672.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

I haven't received anything from the list for nearly 2 weeks now.? Rather strange...


From mlhooper1 at comcast.net  Wed Jun 17 10:58:25 2015
From: mlhooper1 at comcast.net (KG5VU)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 07:58:25 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 Power Output
Message-ID: <1434553105277-7604063.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hi,

I just finished building KX1 Serial Number 2879 which is the standard
20M/40M version.  It's a great little rig but, I have a few issues, one
major and two minor:

A)  On final testing I only had about 2.5W on 20M and 2.0W on 40M with power
supply at 13.8V.  I tried to compress the winding on L2, as suggested, but
this only degraded the output slightly (2.2W on 20M and 1.8W on 40M). 
Checked the components on the board against the schematic and everything
checked out OK.  Any ideas on what else I should try?  Any idea what RF
voltage levels I should see at each stage?  (I have several decent
oscilloscopes for testing if need be.)

B) The receiver is sensitive (I can hear 0.1 microvolt RF signal on 20 & 40)
but the audio level (particularly for weak signals) is pretty low unless I
advance the AF Gain control to full clockwise.  Is this normal?  Do I just
need to experiment with different sets of ear-buds?

C) The firmware on my KX1 is version 1.02.  The Menu on my unit is different
than the Manual.  It does not include SLO, SHI or CAL.  Instead there are
SIG, DDS and BFO.  Are support documents for revised version available?

For background, I had no difficulty during assembly.  The KX1 passed all
tests except the transmit power output.  

I did make one mistake during assembly however.  I mistakenly inserted a .1
microfarad capacitor at C30 instead of a .01 microfarad capacitor.  Since
everything seemed to be working, so I have not corrected this issue.  Think
this could be significant?

Thanks for any assistance you can provide.

Lee
KG5VU







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From phystad at mac.com  Wed Jun 17 11:05:25 2015
From: phystad at mac.com (Phil Hystad)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 08:05:25 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 Power Output
In-Reply-To: <1434553105277-7604063.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1434553105277-7604063.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <03EE7FD3-8076-43C5-877F-261F45E2EBE2@mac.com>

> I did make one mistake during assembly however.  I mistakenly inserted a .1
> microfarad capacitor at C30 instead of a .01 microfarad capacitor.  Since
> everything seemed to be working, so I have not corrected this issue.


Wouldn?t that mean you made two mistakes.  Unless of course you had an extra
0.1 mF capacitor.  But, if you have exactly the right amount of parts, which is the
usual thing, then all misplaced part mistakes come in pairs.

73, phil, K7PEH



> On Jun 17, 2015, at 7:58 AM, KG5VU <mlhooper1 at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I just finished building KX1 Serial Number 2879 which is the standard
> 20M/40M version.  It's a great little rig but, I have a few issues, one
> major and two minor:
> 
> A)  On final testing I only had about 2.5W on 20M and 2.0W on 40M with power
> supply at 13.8V.  I tried to compress the winding on L2, as suggested, but
> this only degraded the output slightly (2.2W on 20M and 1.8W on 40M). 
> Checked the components on the board against the schematic and everything
> checked out OK.  Any ideas on what else I should try?  Any idea what RF
> voltage levels I should see at each stage?  (I have several decent
> oscilloscopes for testing if need be.)
> 
> B) The receiver is sensitive (I can hear 0.1 microvolt RF signal on 20 & 40)
> but the audio level (particularly for weak signals) is pretty low unless I
> advance the AF Gain control to full clockwise.  Is this normal?  Do I just
> need to experiment with different sets of ear-buds?
> 
> C) The firmware on my KX1 is version 1.02.  The Menu on my unit is different
> than the Manual.  It does not include SLO, SHI or CAL.  Instead there are
> SIG, DDS and BFO.  Are support documents for revised version available?
> 
> For background, I had no difficulty during assembly.  The KX1 passed all
> tests except the transmit power output.  
> 
> I did make one mistake during assembly however.  I mistakenly inserted a .1
> microfarad capacitor at C30 instead of a .01 microfarad capacitor.  Since
> everything seemed to be working, so I have not corrected this issue.  Think
> this could be significant?
> 
> Thanks for any assistance you can provide.
> 
> Lee
> KG5VU
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From mlhooper1 at comcast.net  Wed Jun 17 11:12:42 2015
From: mlhooper1 at comcast.net (KG5VU)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 08:12:42 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 Power Output
In-Reply-To: <03EE7FD3-8076-43C5-877F-261F45E2EBE2@mac.com>
References: <1434553105277-7604063.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<03EE7FD3-8076-43C5-877F-261F45E2EBE2@mac.com>
Message-ID: <1434553962334-7604065.post@n2.nabble.com>

Phil,

Fortunately, I had a spare .1 microfarad capacitor on hand.  Not exactly the
same size but very close.

Thanks,
Lee



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From n1al at sonic.net  Wed Jun 17 11:37:37 2015
From: n1al at sonic.net (Alan)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 08:37:37 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 problem
In-Reply-To: <59i83ml6lvpjj8768070ncts.1434502880355@email.android.com>
References: <59i83ml6lvpjj8768070ncts.1434502880355@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <55819441.8050803@sonic.net>

I think you must be referring to the notch that occurs at the KX3 VFO 
frequency.  The I/Q output of the KX3 is AC-coupled so there is no 
response at zero HZ, which corresponds to the KX3 VFO frequency.  In CW 
mode, this is offset from the receive frequency by the CW pitch, 
typically 600 Hz, either above or below the passband, depending on which 
sideband is selected.

If there is any 60 Hz or other line-related hum getting into the I/Q 
input then you will see n*60 Hz sidebands on either side of the notch.

Alan N1AL


On 06/16/2015 06:01 PM, John K7JLT wrote:
> I have not heard anything from Elecraft about this problem.
>
> John K7JLT
>
> "Dauer, Edward" <edauer at law.du.edu> wrote:
>
>> Just saw your posts in the archives.  I am experiencing the same, except that in my case there are two narrow S2 spikes at either end of the empty gap.  Has anyone at the factory ever commented or explained what could be done?
>>
>> Ted, KN1CBR
> ______________________________________________________________


From w7ox at socal.rr.com  Wed Jun 17 12:19:59 2015
From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 09:19:59 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S stainless screws
In-Reply-To: <1556341241.262562.1434530123491.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1556341241.262562.1434530123491.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <55819E2F.7070709@socal.rr.com>

No rusting here, Johnny, and I live one mile from 
the Pacific Ocean.

Phil W7OX

On 6/17/15 1:35 AM, Johnny Siu wrote:
> Hello Group,
> As you are aware, I was the naughty one who always complaint about rusting screws in K3.  Elecraft now does listen and the K3S is coming with stainless screws as standard.
> For a price tag of over USD2000, it was difficult to understand why the screws in K3 were rusting.
> Anyway, I am now very pleased that Elecraft does listen to its customers. Well done !
> 73
> Johnny VR2XMC


From Gary at ka1j.com  Wed Jun 17 13:11:57 2015
From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 13:11:57 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S stainless screws
In-Reply-To: <55819E2F.7070709@socal.rr.com>
References: <1556341241.262562.1434530123491.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>,
	<55819E2F.7070709@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <5581AA5D.12897.5187BFD@Gary.ka1j.com>

FWIW, no rusting here and several of my radials are in salt water on 
a slat marsh on the Atlantic, rig is 350 feet away. No rusting so far 
since 09. 

One of those great mysteries.  ;)

73,

Gary
KA1J

> No rusting here, Johnny, and I live one mile from 
> the Pacific Ocean.
> 
> Phil W7OX
> 
> On 6/17/15 1:35 AM, Johnny Siu wrote:
> > Hello Group,
> > As you are aware, I was the naughty one who always complaint about rusting screws in K3.  Elecraft now does listen and the K3S is coming with stainless screws as standard.
> > For a price tag of over USD2000, it was difficult to understand why the screws in K3 were rusting.
> > Anyway, I am now very pleased that Elecraft does listen to its customers. Well done !
> > 73
> > Johnny VR2XMC
> 
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From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Wed Jun 17 14:02:18 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 14:02:18 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 Power Output
In-Reply-To: <1434553105277-7604063.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1434553105277-7604063.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <5581B62A.305@embarqmail.com>

Lee,

Yes, I would change that capacitor - there is a chance that it will 
increase the output of the DDS and solve your power output problem.
There is a difference in some KX1s due to care during construction, 
component tolerances, and a host of other factors.
Make certain you counted the toroid turns correctly - a straight wire 
through the core is one turn, a full wrap around the core is 2 turns.
Count the turns that go through the core center.

If all else fails, you can install the KX1 power mod.  If you have a 
good stock of 1/4 watt resistors you may not need to order the kit. 
Change R11 to 4.7 ohms and R30 to 33 ohms.

If those steps do not solve the power output situation, send me an 
off-list email and we can make comparison measurements with my KX1.

The KX1 audio is not 'earbusting', but is normally adequate.  Yes, you 
may want to try headphones or earbuds with a higher SPL rating.

The "Quick Reference" is the only place in the KX1 manual where SLO, 
SHI, and CAL are mentioned - I guess someone overlooked updating that 
portion of the manual since the VERY early days of the KX1. Look at the 
listing of menu items on page 65 and you will see DDS, BFO, and SIG to 
make those settings.
This has been true since firmware rev 1.01.  1.02 is the latest version.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/17/2015 10:58 AM, KG5VU wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just finished building KX1 Serial Number 2879 which is the standard
> 20M/40M version.  It's a great little rig but, I have a few issues, one
> major and two minor:
>
> A)  On final testing I only had about 2.5W on 20M and 2.0W on 40M with power
> supply at 13.8V.  I tried to compress the winding on L2, as suggested, but
> this only degraded the output slightly (2.2W on 20M and 1.8W on 40M).
> Checked the components on the board against the schematic and everything
> checked out OK.  Any ideas on what else I should try?  Any idea what RF
> voltage levels I should see at each stage?  (I have several decent
> oscilloscopes for testing if need be.)
>
> B) The receiver is sensitive (I can hear 0.1 microvolt RF signal on 20 & 40)
> but the audio level (particularly for weak signals) is pretty low unless I
> advance the AF Gain control to full clockwise.  Is this normal?  Do I just
> need to experiment with different sets of ear-buds?
>
> C) The firmware on my KX1 is version 1.02.  The Menu on my unit is different
> than the Manual.  It does not include SLO, SHI or CAL.  Instead there are
> SIG, DDS and BFO.  Are support documents for revised version available?
>
> For background, I had no difficulty during assembly.  The KX1 passed all
> tests except the transmit power output.
>
> I did make one mistake during assembly however.  I mistakenly inserted a .1
> microfarad capacitor at C30 instead of a .01 microfarad capacitor.  Since
> everything seemed to be working, so I have not corrected this issue.  Think
> this could be significant?
>
>


From frantz at pwpconsult.com  Wed Jun 17 16:03:39 2015
From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 13:03:39 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Screws
In-Reply-To: <1434532210387-7604055.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <r422Ps-1075i-17AAB7C8246D4B1689625E0339BAFAB0@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>

Please do not get the wrong impression of Elecraft service. I 
assembled my K3 from a kit and I have been the only one who has 
worked on it. If it is a problem with the workmanship, I'm the 
one to blame.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 6/17/15 at 2:10 AM, indians at xsmail.com (ok1rp) wrote:

>You would like to say that "many of the screws on the outside of the K3 were
>loose" during service works at Elecraft? I am a bit worrying in that case as
>my radio is coming back to home also and the placing and enough tightening
>all the screws is mandatory to keep down the internal noise as same as keep
>most birdies off...
>Nevertheless I am still confident to guys from Elecraft service!
>73 - Petr, OK1RP http://ok1rp.blogspot.com

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From mlhooper1 at comcast.net  Wed Jun 17 16:08:08 2015
From: mlhooper1 at comcast.net (M L Hooper)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 15:08:08 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 Power Output
In-Reply-To: <5581B62A.305@embarqmail.com>
References: <1434553105277-7604063.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<5581B62A.305@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <E56EDA4D-381D-4716-B47D-776D38A736AB@comcast.net>

Don,

I installed the .1 microfarad capacitor at C30, but this didn?t change the output.

After testing the C30 fix, I subsequently changed R30 to 33 ohms and R11 to 4.7 ohms.  This did change things, but did not entirely resolve the problem.

At 13.8V input, my power meter shows 3.0 watts on both 20M and 40M.  
When I lower the input voltage to 9.0 volts, the meter shows 1.4 watts on 40M and 1.7 watts on 20M.  
I guess this is within or nearly within specs, but it?s odd that there is more output on 20M than on 40M.

Anything else I should try, or should I just use it like this for a while?

Thanks again,

Lee
KG5VU


> On Jun 17, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Don Wilhelm <w3fpr at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Lee,
> 
> Yes, I would change that capacitor - there is a chance that it will increase the output of the DDS and solve your power output problem.
> There is a difference in some KX1s due to care during construction, component tolerances, and a host of other factors.
> Make certain you counted the toroid turns correctly - a straight wire through the core is one turn, a full wrap around the core is 2 turns.
> Count the turns that go through the core center.
> 
> If all else fails, you can install the KX1 power mod.  If you have a good stock of 1/4 watt resistors you may not need to order the kit. Change R11 to 4.7 ohms and R30 to 33 ohms.
> 
> If those steps do not solve the power output situation, send me an off-list email and we can make comparison measurements with my KX1.
> 
> The KX1 audio is not 'earbusting', but is normally adequate.  Yes, you may want to try headphones or earbuds with a higher SPL rating.
> 
> The "Quick Reference" is the only place in the KX1 manual where SLO, SHI, and CAL are mentioned - I guess someone overlooked updating that portion of the manual since the VERY early days of the KX1. Look at the listing of menu items on page 65 and you will see DDS, BFO, and SIG to make those settings.
> This has been true since firmware rev 1.01.  1.02 is the latest version.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 6/17/2015 10:58 AM, KG5VU wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I just finished building KX1 Serial Number 2879 which is the standard
>> 20M/40M version.  It's a great little rig but, I have a few issues, one
>> major and two minor:
>> 
>> A)  On final testing I only had about 2.5W on 20M and 2.0W on 40M with power
>> supply at 13.8V.  I tried to compress the winding on L2, as suggested, but
>> this only degraded the output slightly (2.2W on 20M and 1.8W on 40M).
>> Checked the components on the board against the schematic and everything
>> checked out OK.  Any ideas on what else I should try?  Any idea what RF
>> voltage levels I should see at each stage?  (I have several decent
>> oscilloscopes for testing if need be.)
>> 
>> B) The receiver is sensitive (I can hear 0.1 microvolt RF signal on 20 & 40)
>> but the audio level (particularly for weak signals) is pretty low unless I
>> advance the AF Gain control to full clockwise.  Is this normal?  Do I just
>> need to experiment with different sets of ear-buds?
>> 
>> C) The firmware on my KX1 is version 1.02.  The Menu on my unit is different
>> than the Manual.  It does not include SLO, SHI or CAL.  Instead there are
>> SIG, DDS and BFO.  Are support documents for revised version available?
>> 
>> For background, I had no difficulty during assembly.  The KX1 passed all
>> tests except the transmit power output.
>> 
>> I did make one mistake during assembly however.  I mistakenly inserted a .1
>> microfarad capacitor at C30 instead of a .01 microfarad capacitor.  Since
>> everything seemed to be working, so I have not corrected this issue.  Think
>> this could be significant?
>> 
>> 
> 


From c-hawley at illinois.edu  Wed Jun 17 16:23:34 2015
From: c-hawley at illinois.edu (ke9uw)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 13:23:34 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 Power Output
In-Reply-To: <E56EDA4D-381D-4716-B47D-776D38A736AB@comcast.net>
References: <1434553105277-7604063.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<5581B62A.305@embarqmail.com>
	<E56EDA4D-381D-4716-B47D-776D38A736AB@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <69432CE3-9A02-4686-8C6F-A1A2921FA18A@illinois.edu>

You mean a .01 uF?

Sent from my iPhone
Chuck (Jack)

On Jun 17, 2015, at 3:09 PM, KG5VU [via Elecraft] <ml-node+s365791n7604071h48 at n2.nabble.com<mailto:ml-node+s365791n7604071h48 at n2.nabble.com>> wrote:

Don,

I installed the .1 microfarad capacitor at C30, but this didn?t change the output.

After testing the C30 fix, I subsequently changed R30 to 33 ohms and R11 to 4.7 ohms.  This did change things, but did not entirely resolve the problem.

At 13.8V input, my power meter shows 3.0 watts on both 20M and 40M.
When I lower the input voltage to 9.0 volts, the meter shows 1.4 watts on 40M and 1.7 watts on 20M.
I guess this is within or nearly within specs, but it?s odd that there is more output on 20M than on 40M.

Anything else I should try, or should I just use it like this for a while?

Thanks again,

Lee
KG5VU


> On Jun 17, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7604071&i=0>> wrote:
>
> Lee,
>
> Yes, I would change that capacitor - there is a chance that it will increase the output of the DDS and solve your power output problem.
> There is a difference in some KX1s due to care during construction, component tolerances, and a host of other factors.
> Make certain you counted the toroid turns correctly - a straight wire through the core is one turn, a full wrap around the core is 2 turns.
> Count the turns that go through the core center.
>
> If all else fails, you can install the KX1 power mod.  If you have a good stock of 1/4 watt resistors you may not need to order the kit. Change R11 to 4.7 ohms and R30 to 33 ohms.
>
> If those steps do not solve the power output situation, send me an off-list email and we can make comparison measurements with my KX1.
>
> The KX1 audio is not 'earbusting', but is normally adequate.  Yes, you may want to try headphones or earbuds with a higher SPL rating.
>
> The "Quick Reference" is the only place in the KX1 manual where SLO, SHI, and CAL are mentioned - I guess someone overlooked updating that portion of the manual since the VERY early days of the KX1. Look at the listing of menu items on page 65 and you will see DDS, BFO, and SIG to make those settings.
> This has been true since firmware rev 1.01.  1.02 is the latest version.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 6/17/2015 10:58 AM, KG5VU wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just finished building KX1 Serial Number 2879 which is the standard
>> 20M/40M version.  It's a great little rig but, I have a few issues, one
>> major and two minor:
>>
>> A)  On final testing I only had about 2.5W on 20M and 2.0W on 40M with power
>> supply at 13.8V.  I tried to compress the winding on L2, as suggested, but
>> this only degraded the output slightly (2.2W on 20M and 1.8W on 40M).
>> Checked the components on the board against the schematic and everything
>> checked out OK.  Any ideas on what else I should try?  Any idea what RF
>> voltage levels I should see at each stage?  (I have several decent
>> oscilloscopes for testing if need be.)
>>
>> B) The receiver is sensitive (I can hear 0.1 microvolt RF signal on 20 & 40)
>> but the audio level (particularly for weak signals) is pretty low unless I
>> advance the AF Gain control to full clockwise.  Is this normal?  Do I just
>> need to experiment with different sets of ear-buds?
>>
>> C) The firmware on my KX1 is version 1.02.  The Menu on my unit is different
>> than the Manual.  It does not include SLO, SHI or CAL.  Instead there are
>> SIG, DDS and BFO.  Are support documents for revised version available?
>>
>> For background, I had no difficulty during assembly.  The KX1 passed all
>> tests except the transmit power output.
>>
>> I did make one mistake during assembly however.  I mistakenly inserted a .1
>> microfarad capacitor at C30 instead of a .01 microfarad capacitor.  Since
>> everything seemed to be working, so I have not corrected this issue.  Think
>> this could be significant?
>>
>>
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From mlhooper1 at comcast.net  Wed Jun 17 16:43:17 2015
From: mlhooper1 at comcast.net (KG5VU)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 13:43:17 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 Power Output
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Correct, Thanks


> On Jun 17, 2015, at 3:23 PM, ke9uw [via Elecraft] <ml-node+s365791n7604072h92 at n2.nabble.com> wrote:
> 
> You mean a .01 uF?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> Chuck (Jack)
> 
> On Jun 17, 2015, at 3:09 PM, KG5VU [via Elecraft] <[hidden email] <x-msg://9/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7604072&i=0>> wrote:
> 
>> Don, 
>> 
>> I installed the .1 microfarad capacitor at C30, but this didn?t change the output. 
>> 
>> After testing the C30 fix, I subsequently changed R30 to 33 ohms and R11 to 4.7 ohms.  This did change things, but did not entirely resolve the problem. 
>> 
>> At 13.8V input, my power meter shows 3.0 watts on both 20M and 40M.   
>> When I lower the input voltage to 9.0 volts, the meter shows 1.4 watts on 40M and 1.7 watts on 20M.   
>> I guess this is within or nearly within specs, but it?s odd that there is more output on 20M than on 40M. 
>> 
>> Anything else I should try, or should I just use it like this for a while? 
>> 
>> Thanks again, 
>> 
>> Lee 
>> KG5VU 
>> 
>> 
>> > On Jun 17, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email] <x-msg://9/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7604071&i=0>> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Lee, 
>> > 
>> > Yes, I would change that capacitor - there is a chance that it will increase the output of the DDS and solve your power output problem. 
>> > There is a difference in some KX1s due to care during construction, component tolerances, and a host of other factors. 
>> > Make certain you counted the toroid turns correctly - a straight wire through the core is one turn, a full wrap around the core is 2 turns. 
>> > Count the turns that go through the core center. 
>> > 
>> > If all else fails, you can install the KX1 power mod.  If you have a good stock of 1/4 watt resistors you may not need to order the kit. Change R11 to 4.7 ohms and R30 to 33 ohms. 
>> > 
>> > If those steps do not solve the power output situation, send me an off-list email and we can make comparison measurements with my KX1. 
>> > 
>> > The KX1 audio is not 'earbusting', but is normally adequate.  Yes, you may want to try headphones or earbuds with a higher SPL rating. 
>> > 
>> > The "Quick Reference" is the only place in the KX1 manual where SLO, SHI, and CAL are mentioned - I guess someone overlooked updating that portion of the manual since the VERY early days of the KX1. Look at the listing of menu items on page 65 and you will see DDS, BFO, and SIG to make those settings. 
>> > This has been true since firmware rev 1.01.  1.02 is the latest version. 
>> > 
>> > 73, 
>> > Don W3FPR 
>> > 
>> > On 6/17/2015 10:58 AM, KG5VU wrote: 
>> >> Hi, 
>> >> 
>> >> I just finished building KX1 Serial Number 2879 which is the standard 
>> >> 20M/40M version.  It's a great little rig but, I have a few issues, one 
>> >> major and two minor: 
>> >> 
>> >> A)  On final testing I only had about 2.5W on 20M and 2.0W on 40M with power 
>> >> supply at 13.8V.  I tried to compress the winding on L2, as suggested, but 
>> >> this only degraded the output slightly (2.2W on 20M and 1.8W on 40M). 
>> >> Checked the components on the board against the schematic and everything 
>> >> checked out OK.  Any ideas on what else I should try?  Any idea what RF 
>> >> voltage levels I should see at each stage?  (I have several decent 
>> >> oscilloscopes for testing if need be.) 
>> >> 
>> >> B) The receiver is sensitive (I can hear 0.1 microvolt RF signal on 20 & 40) 
>> >> but the audio level (particularly for weak signals) is pretty low unless I 
>> >> advance the AF Gain control to full clockwise.  Is this normal?  Do I just 
>> >> need to experiment with different sets of ear-buds? 
>> >> 
>> >> C) The firmware on my KX1 is version 1.02.  The Menu on my unit is different 
>> >> than the Manual.  It does not include SLO, SHI or CAL.  Instead there are 
>> >> SIG, DDS and BFO.  Are support documents for revised version available? 
>> >> 
>> >> For background, I had no difficulty during assembly.  The KX1 passed all 
>> >> tests except the transmit power output. 
>> >> 
>> >> I did make one mistake during assembly however.  I mistakenly inserted a .1 
>> >> microfarad capacitor at C30 instead of a .01 microfarad capacitor.  Since 
>> >> everything seemed to be working, so I have not corrected this issue.  Think 
>> >> this could be significant? 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >
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From don at w3fpr.com  Wed Jun 17 16:46:41 2015
From: don at w3fpr.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 16:46:41 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 Power Output
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Lee,

That is better, but I normally expect 3.5 watts with a true 13.8 volt 
input.  Measure the voltage at the KX1 end (remove the insulating handle 
from the power cord to gain access).  Then try a TUNE and measure the 
voltage again.  If it drops substantially, check the connections at the 
power source to be sure they are tight.  I normally recommend using #18 
wire or larger to reduce the voltage drop.

You did not mention the wattmeter that you were using.  Many analog 
wattmeters are only accurate to 20% of the full scale reading - that 
means if using a 20 watt scale, the reading could be incorrect by as 
much as 4 watts at any point on the scale, making them not reliable for 
low power work.  It is more accurate to connect a god 50 ohm dummy load 
and measure the RF voltage across that load and 'do the math' to figure 
the power output.  There are a few accurate wattmeters available, and 
most of them are digital - the Elecraft WM1, W2, or the Telepost LP-100 
and LP-200 are ones I know I can trust.

You may be able to move the 40/20 power output relationship by changing 
the spacing on the turns of L1 and L2.  Try spreading the turns as well 
as squeezing them.  The most important factor when spreading or 
squeezing the turns is the spacing between the wires at the ends of the 
winding - spreading or squeezing the middle of the winding will not do much.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/17/2015 4:08 PM, M L Hooper wrote:
> Don,
>
> I installed the .1 microfarad capacitor at C30, but this didn?t change the output.
>
> After testing the C30 fix, I subsequently changed R30 to 33 ohms and R11 to 4.7 ohms.  This did change things, but did not entirely resolve the problem.
>
> At 13.8V input, my power meter shows 3.0 watts on both 20M and 40M.
> When I lower the input voltage to 9.0 volts, the meter shows 1.4 watts on 40M and 1.7 watts on 20M.
> I guess this is within or nearly within specs, but it?s odd that there is more output on 20M than on 40M.
>
> Anything else I should try, or should I just use it like this for a while?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Lee
> KG5VU
>
>
>> On Jun 17, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Don Wilhelm <w3fpr at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Lee,
>>
>> Yes, I would change that capacitor - there is a chance that it will increase the output of the DDS and solve your power output problem.
>> There is a difference in some KX1s due to care during construction, component tolerances, and a host of other factors.
>> Make certain you counted the toroid turns correctly - a straight wire through the core is one turn, a full wrap around the core is 2 turns.
>> Count the turns that go through the core center.
>>
>> If all else fails, you can install the KX1 power mod.  If you have a good stock of 1/4 watt resistors you may not need to order the kit. Change R11 to 4.7 ohms and R30 to 33 ohms.
>>
>> If those steps do not solve the power output situation, send me an off-list email and we can make comparison measurements with my KX1.
>>
>> The KX1 audio is not 'earbusting', but is normally adequate.  Yes, you may want to try headphones or earbuds with a higher SPL rating.
>>
>> The "Quick Reference" is the only place in the KX1 manual where SLO, SHI, and CAL are mentioned - I guess someone overlooked updating that portion of the manual since the VERY early days of the KX1. Look at the listing of menu items on page 65 and you will see DDS, BFO, and SIG to make those settings.
>> This has been true since firmware rev 1.01.  1.02 is the latest version.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 6/17/2015 10:58 AM, KG5VU wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I just finished building KX1 Serial Number 2879 which is the standard
>>> 20M/40M version.  It's a great little rig but, I have a few issues, one
>>> major and two minor:
>>>
>>> A)  On final testing I only had about 2.5W on 20M and 2.0W on 40M with power
>>> supply at 13.8V.  I tried to compress the winding on L2, as suggested, but
>>> this only degraded the output slightly (2.2W on 20M and 1.8W on 40M).
>>> Checked the components on the board against the schematic and everything
>>> checked out OK.  Any ideas on what else I should try?  Any idea what RF
>>> voltage levels I should see at each stage?  (I have several decent
>>> oscilloscopes for testing if need be.)
>>>
>>> B) The receiver is sensitive (I can hear 0.1 microvolt RF signal on 20 & 40)
>>> but the audio level (particularly for weak signals) is pretty low unless I
>>> advance the AF Gain control to full clockwise.  Is this normal?  Do I just
>>> need to experiment with different sets of ear-buds?
>>>
>>> C) The firmware on my KX1 is version 1.02.  The Menu on my unit is different
>>> than the Manual.  It does not include SLO, SHI or CAL.  Instead there are
>>> SIG, DDS and BFO.  Are support documents for revised version available?
>>>
>>> For background, I had no difficulty during assembly.  The KX1 passed all
>>> tests except the transmit power output.
>>>
>>> I did make one mistake during assembly however.  I mistakenly inserted a .1
>>> microfarad capacitor at C30 instead of a .01 microfarad capacitor.  Since
>>> everything seemed to be working, so I have not corrected this issue.  Think
>>> this could be significant?
>>>
>>>
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From vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk  Wed Jun 17 19:23:40 2015
From: vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk (Johnny Siu)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 23:23:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S stainless screws
In-Reply-To: <5581AA5D.12897.5187BFD@Gary.ka1j.com>
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Hello Gary,
Yes, I did hear many of you not having any rusting, real mysteries indeed!!
In my case, I live?in a high rise apartment about 150m above sea level,?2 km away from the Victoria Harbour.? My shack is overlooking the Victoria Harbour.
Summer time is about 33-34c with humidity?often over 90%.? The standard screws from Elecraft become rusting after 6 months so that I ordered the USD19.95 stainless steel screws set.? On?the contrary, all screws in my?Icom radios do not show any?rusting even after 10 years.
Now that Elecraft does listen to?the customers, stainless steel screws are a standard (not option) to K3S.? I think it is fair because no one would expect?an over USD2000 radio?does not come with stainless steel?screws as standard.
I also do not believe it is Elecraft's idea to squeeze another USD19.95 for stainless steel screw set from the customers.
Again, it is a good move for Elecraft,?responds to customer's suggestion.
73
Johnny VR2XMC?
?      ???? Gary Smith <Gary at ka1j.com>
 ???? Elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
 ????? 2015?06?18? (??) 1:11 AM
 ??? Re: [Elecraft] K3S stainless screws
   
FWIW, no rusting here and several of my radials are in salt water on 
a slat marsh on the Atlantic, rig is 350 feet away. No rusting so far 
since 09. 

One of those great mysteries.? ;)

73,

Gary
KA1J

> No rusting here, Johnny, and I live one mile from 
> the Pacific Ocean.
> 
> Phil W7OX
> 
> On 6/17/15 1:35 AM, Johnny Siu wrote:
> > Hello Group,
> > As you are aware, I was the naughty one who always complaint about rusting screws in K3.? Elecraft now does listen and the K3S is coming with stainless screws as standard.
> > For a price tag of over USD2000, it was difficult to understand why the screws in K3 were rusting.
> > Anyway, I am now very pleased that Elecraft does listen to its customers. Well done !
> > 73
> > Johnny VR2XMC
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From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Wed Jun 17 19:54:29 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:54:29 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S stainless screws
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Johnny and all,

It is my understanding that Elecraft did phase in the use of Stainless 
Steel screws into the K3 line.  I cannot say when that happened, but 
only that it did happen.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/17/2015 7:23 PM, Johnny Siu wrote:
> Hello Gary,
> Yes, I did hear many of you not having any rusting, real mysteries indeed!!
> In my case, I live in a high rise apartment about 150m above sea level, 2 km away from the Victoria Harbour.  My shack is overlooking the Victoria Harbour.
> Summer time is about 33-34c with humidity often over 90%.  The standard screws from Elecraft become rusting after 6 months so that I ordered the USD19.95 stainless steel screws set.  On the contrary, all screws in my Icom radios do not show any rusting even after 10 years.
> Now that Elecraft does listen to the customers, stainless steel screws are a standard (not option) to K3S.  I think it is fair because no one would expect an over USD2000 radio does not come with stainless steel screws as standard.
> I also do not believe it is Elecraft's idea to squeeze another USD19.95 for stainless steel screw set from the customers.
> Again, it is a good move for Elecraft, responds to customer's suggestion.
>


From w7ox at socal.rr.com  Wed Jun 17 21:09:55 2015
From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 18:09:55 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S stainless screws
In-Reply-To: <558208B5.70208@embarqmail.com>
References: <5581AA5D.12897.5187BFD@Gary.ka1j.com>	<1286033575.447011.1434583420194.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<558208B5.70208@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <55821A63.1040103@socal.rr.com>

Ah, perhaps that's why I've seen no rust here, 
Don. My K3 is S/N > 8000.

73, Phil W7OX

On 6/17/15 4:54 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Johnny and all,
>
> It is my understanding that Elecraft did phase 
> in the use of Stainless Steel screws into the K3 
> line.  I cannot say when that happened, but only 
> that it did happen.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 6/17/2015 7:23 PM, Johnny Siu wrote:
>> Hello Gary,
>> Yes, I did hear many of you not having any 
>> rusting, real mysteries indeed!!
>> In my case, I live in a high rise apartment 
>> about 150m above sea level, 2 km away from the 
>> Victoria Harbour.  My shack is overlooking the 
>> Victoria Harbour.
>> Summer time is about 33-34c with humidity often 
>> over 90%.  The standard screws from Elecraft 
>> become rusting after 6 months so that I ordered 
>> the USD19.95 stainless steel screws set.  On 
>> the contrary, all screws in my Icom radios do 
>> not show any rusting even after 10 years.
>> Now that Elecraft does listen to the customers, 
>> stainless steel screws are a standard (not 
>> option) to K3S.  I think it is fair because no 
>> one would expect an over USD2000 radio does not 
>> come with stainless steel screws as standard.
>> I also do not believe it is Elecraft's idea to 
>> squeeze another USD19.95 for stainless steel 
>> screw set from the customers.
>> Again, it is a good move for Elecraft, responds 
>> to customer's suggestion.
>>
>


From w2lj at verizon.net  Wed Jun 17 22:35:43 2015
From: w2lj at verizon.net (Larry Makoski)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 22:35:43 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Skeeter numbers issued starting Sunday
Message-ID: <5a7da8ca212e48418b65505bcc0b2640@192.168.1.3>

To all QRPers!
The 4th Annual NJQRP Skeeter Hunt will be held on Sunday, August 9th. In keeping with tradition, Skeeter numbers will begin to be issued on the First Day of Summer, which is this coming Sunday, June 21st.
You don't have to wait until Sunday to send in your request! Just send an e-mail to w2lj at arrl.net, to request a number, along with your name, call and the state you will be operating from. Whenever you make your request, from now until August 8th, you'll receive a confirming e-mail, along with your Skeeter number.
All the details for this soon-to-be Summer classic, can be found at www.qsl.net/w2lj
There are a few minor rule changes this year and they are detailed at the Website. And remember, the NJQRP Skeeter Hunt is an SSB friendly event - there is a SSB category and even a mixed category for those who would like to give their microphones a workout.
Hope to see your e-mail in my inbox!
72 de Larry W2LJ - NJQRP Skeeter Hunt Manager

From n5ge at n5ge.com  Wed Jun 17 23:18:27 2015
From: n5ge at n5ge.com (Amateur Radio Operator N5GE)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 22:18:27 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S stainless screws
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References: <5581AA5D.12897.5187BFD@Gary.ka1j.com>
	<1286033575.447011.1434583420194.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
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You're exactly right Johnny!

On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 23:23:40 +0000 (UTC), you wrote:

>Hello Gary,
>Yes, I did hear many of you not having any rusting, real mysteries indeed!!
>In my case, I live?in a high rise apartment about 150m above sea level,?2 km away from the Victoria Harbour.? My shack is overlooking the Victoria Harbour.
>Summer time is about 33-34c with humidity?often over 90%.? The standard screws from Elecraft become rusting after 6 months so that I ordered the USD19.95 stainless steel screws set.? On?the contrary, all screws in my?Icom radios do not show any?rusting even after 10 years.
>Now that Elecraft does listen to?the customers, stainless steel screws are a standard (not option) to K3S.? I think it is fair because no one would expect?an over USD2000 radio?does not come with stainless steel?screws as standard.
>I also do not believe it is Elecraft's idea to squeeze another USD19.95 for stainless steel screw set from the customers.
>Again, it is a good move for Elecraft,?responds to customer's suggestion.
>73
>Johnny VR2XMC?
>?      ???? Gary Smith <Gary at ka1j.com>
> ???? Elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
> ????? 2015?06?18? (??) 1:11 AM
> ??? Re: [Elecraft] K3S stainless screws
>   
>FWIW, no rusting here and several of my radials are in salt water on 
>a slat marsh on the Atlantic, rig is 350 feet away. No rusting so far 
>since 09. 
>
>One of those great mysteries.? ;)
>
>73,
>
>Gary
>KA1J
>
>> No rusting here, Johnny, and I live one mile from 
>> the Pacific Ocean.
>> 
>> Phil W7OX
>> 
>> On 6/17/15 1:35 AM, Johnny Siu wrote:
>> > Hello Group,
>> > As you are aware, I was the naughty one who always complaint about rusting screws in K3.? Elecraft now does listen and the K3S is coming with stainless screws as standard.
>> > For a price tag of over USD2000, it was difficult to understand why the screws in K3 were rusting.
>> > Anyway, I am now very pleased that Elecraft does listen to its customers. Well done !
>> > 73
>> > Johnny VR2XMC
>> 
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From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Thu Jun 18 05:09:49 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Harry via Elecraft)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 05:09:49 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K1 slightly frequency shift
Message-ID: <14e05ee6ede-2d23-3a68@webprd-m93.mail.aol.com>


 Hello

since a week I am also very happy owner of a K1 with the 4 band module, atu and nb board.

The rx is amazing, but I notice a slight shift of the vfo if I am put my hand on the top cover of the K1.
I notice this shift, about 100 hz, also after a longer warm up periode. Even when I put one or two fingers above the vfo dial.
Any hints to reduce this little frequency shift? 

 

73 de Harry, DK2GZ

Elecraft K1 / K2/100 / K3 / KPA500



From indians at xsmail.com  Thu Jun 18 05:48:32 2015
From: indians at xsmail.com (ok1rp)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 02:48:32 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Screws
In-Reply-To: <r422Ps-1075i-17AAB7C8246D4B1689625E0339BAFAB0@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
References: <r422Ps-1075i-4F3C0B3D75564AF488DD082D0A983018@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
	<1434532210387-7604055.post@n2.nabble.com>
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Hi Bill,

this is exactly what I wanted to hear :)

As I mentioned already I have just only excellent experiences with Elecraft
service guys and their effort etc. till now so I was a bit surprised. So I
am happy to hear that it is nothing related to Elecraft guys.

I am really looking forward to my K3 arrival after their complete
maintenance.

Good luck,

73 - Petr, OK1RP
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From kd1na363 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 08:59:10 2015
From: kd1na363 at gmail.com (David Robertson)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 08:59:10 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Locktite
Message-ID: <CAE_TyAD0z08SMry-MM-A1zJ92+YBcKqE0SFBfFW8+VUv5ETc2g@mail.gmail.com>

One of the members of this e=mail forum made the following statment:


"If the radio is going to be used in a high vibration environment, like a
car, sealing the screws with Loctite might be a good idea."

Although he is correct, you must be very careful on which type of Locktite
you use. Locktite comes in colors and you want to stay away from the red
color Locktite as it is perment. Using it will make it very difficult, if
not impossible to remove.

73
Dave KD1na

From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Thu Jun 18 09:12:16 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Harry Yingst via Elecraft)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:12:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] Locktite
In-Reply-To: <CAE_TyAD0z08SMry-MM-A1zJ92+YBcKqE0SFBfFW8+VUv5ETc2g@mail.gmail.com>
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Purple is Low
Blue is medium (I use this one mostly)
Red is High (Permanent) heat it with a torch to remove

      From: David Robertson <kd1na363 at gmail.com>
 To: Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:59 AM
 Subject: [Elecraft] Locktite
   
One of the members of this e=mail forum made the following statment:


"If the radio is going to be used in a high vibration environment, like a
car, sealing the screws with Loctite might be a good idea."

Although he is correct, you must be very careful on which type of Locktite
you use. Locktite comes in colors and you want to stay away from the red
color Locktite as it is perment. Using it will make it very difficult, if
not impossible to remove.

73
Dave KD1na
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From eagleeyedennis at gmx.com  Thu Jun 18 09:24:10 2015
From: eagleeyedennis at gmx.com (Dennis Griffin)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 06:24:10 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Loctite
In-Reply-To: <CAE_TyAD0z08SMry-MM-A1zJ92+YBcKqE0SFBfFW8+VUv5ETc2g@mail.gmail.com>
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A small drop of Loctite? 222, which is purple in color, would be appropriate for these small screws in this application. However, I don?t consider most cars to be a high vibration environment. If one were to regularly drive on cobblestone or washboard surfaces, then a thread locker might be warranted, but that would be more of a low frequency vibration, very unlike a high frequency vibration, such as might be generated by a high RPM 4 cylinder motorcycle engine.

Even though the screws may be of a stainless steel material, there is still a slight potential for galvanic corrosion. I?d think that use of a heavy bodied anti-seize compound on these screws would be all the ?thread locker? most OM?s would need.

73 de Dennis KD7CAC
Scottsdale, AZ

> On Jun 18, 2015, at 5:59 AM, David Robertson <kd1na363 at gmail.com <mailto:kd1na363 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> One of the members of this e=mail forum made the following statment:
> 
> 
> "If the radio is going to be used in a high vibration environment, like a
> car, sealing the screws with Loctite might be a good idea."
> 
> Although he is correct, you must be very careful on which type of Locktite
> you use. Locktite comes in colors and you want to stay away from the red
> color Locktite as it is perment. Using it will make it very difficult, if
> not impossible to remove.
> 
> 73
> Dave KD1na

From eagleeyedennis at gmx.com  Thu Jun 18 09:26:44 2015
From: eagleeyedennis at gmx.com (Dennis Griffin)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 06:26:44 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Locktite
In-Reply-To: <1425145951.1128614.1434633137020.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAE_TyAD0z08SMry-MM-A1zJ92+YBcKqE0SFBfFW8+VUv5ETc2g@mail.gmail.com>
	<1425145951.1128614.1434633137020.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
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> On Jun 18, 2015, at 6:12 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft at mailman.qth.net>> wrote:
> 
> Purple is Low

and is intended for fasteners 1/4? dia. and below (Loctite? 222)

> Blue is medium (I use this one mostly)

and is intended for fasteners in the 1/4 - 3/4? dia. range (Loctite? 242)

> Red is High (Permanent) heat it with a torch to remove

or a good heat gun (Loctite? 262)


72 de Dennis KD7CAC
> 
>      From: David Robertson <kd1na363 at gmail.com <mailto:kd1na363 at gmail.com>>
> To: Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft at mailman.qth.net>> 
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:59 AM
> Subject: [Elecraft] Locktite
> 
> One of the members of this e=mail forum made the following statment:

From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Thu Jun 18 09:29:05 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Harry Yingst via Elecraft)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:29:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] Loctite
In-Reply-To: <53B0E4D2-C89B-4DDA-A7E2-DDE4887ADA86@gmx.com>
References: <53B0E4D2-C89B-4DDA-A7E2-DDE4887ADA86@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <1352205796.1097634.1434634145773.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

On this subject I would tend to believe some of it's due to thermal expansion and contraction


      From: Dennis Griffin <eagleeyedennis at gmx.com>
 To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net Mailer" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Loctite
   
A small drop of Loctite? 222, which is purple in color, would be appropriate for these small screws in this application. However, I don?t consider most cars to be a high vibration environment. If one were to regularly drive on cobblestone or washboard surfaces, then a thread locker might be warranted, but that would be more of a low frequency vibration, very unlike a high frequency vibration, such as might be generated by a high RPM 4 cylinder motorcycle engine.

Even though the screws may be of a stainless steel material, there is still a slight potential for galvanic corrosion. I?d think that use of a heavy bodied anti-seize compound on these screws would be all the ?thread locker? most OM?s would need.

73 de Dennis KD7CAC
Scottsdale, AZ



> On Jun 18, 2015, at 5:59 AM, David Robertson <kd1na363 at gmail.com <mailto:kd1na363 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> One of the members of this e=mail forum made the following statment:
> 
> 
> "If the radio is going to be used in a high vibration environment, like a
> car, sealing the screws with Loctite might be a good idea."
> 
> Although he is correct, you must be very careful on which type of Locktite
> you use. Locktite comes in colors and you want to stay away from the red
> color Locktite as it is perment. Using it will make it very difficult, if
> not impossible to remove.
> 
> 73
> Dave KD1na
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From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Thu Jun 18 10:05:56 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 10:05:56 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Loctite
In-Reply-To: <53B0E4D2-C89B-4DDA-A7E2-DDE4887ADA86@gmx.com>
References: <CAE_TyAD0z08SMry-MM-A1zJ92+YBcKqE0SFBfFW8+VUv5ETc2g@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <5582D044.7090400@embarqmail.com>

Mainly for kit builders --
Because the screws are stainless steel but are threaded into aluminum, 
there is a small chance of a slight galling of the threads, making it 
impossible to fully tighten the screw.  A bit of light oil the first 
time a screw is inserted would my choice rather than a thread locking 
compound.  If the oil drips, you have too much on - wipe the threads 
with a cloth, there will be enough remaining to do the job.

The black screws are *supposed* to be an aid in tightening, but a little 
bit of extra gives that last bit of assurance.

I will repeat my caution to use a good #1 Phillips screwdriver to keep 
from rounding out the screw heads.  If you can see shiny spots on the 
screwdriver tip, replace it with a new one.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/18/2015 9:24 AM, Dennis Griffin wrote:
>
> Even though the screws may be of a stainless steel material, there is still a slight potential for galvanic corrosion. I?d think that use of a heavy bodied anti-seize compound on these screws would be all the ?thread locker? most OM?s would need.
>
>


From bsusb at k5dkz.com  Thu Jun 18 10:41:08 2015
From: bsusb at k5dkz.com (bs usb)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 08:41:08 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100
Message-ID: <5582D884.50100@k5dkz.com>

Is anyone out there wanting to sell their KXPA100?

-- 
K5DKZ


From hhoyt at mebtel.net  Thu Jun 18 11:09:56 2015
From: hhoyt at mebtel.net (Howard Hoyt)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:09:56 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S stainless screws
Message-ID: <5582DF44.2090906@mebtel.net>

Properly done, hot-process black oxide finish on plain steel with a wax 
sealer can be quite corrosion resistance, there is even a MIL spec for 
that (well, there is for everything including waffles, I suspect!).  I 
would think that accounts for the reports of the plain steel screws not 
corroding.

Interestingly enough a reason a black oxide or especially black zinc 
finish is applied to stainless steel is not related to appearance nor 
corrosion resistance, but to forestall galling.  The combination of the 
intervening layer (>0.0002" of black-zinc conversion coating, 0.000005" 
for hot-process black-oxide) and the wax or other sealer aids in 
lowering interface friction.  And although the wax acts a an EP 
lubricant while tightening, it's stiction characteristic can aid in 
fastener retention.

Howie - WA4PSC

From edauer at law.du.edu  Thu Jun 18 11:21:12 2015
From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 15:21:12 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Problem
Message-ID: <F5A69F2B-BAEC-418E-A872-FFCBB495E24E@law.du.edu>

Thanks, Alan; that explains the notch perfectly.  My own version of the 
problem, however, is that the PX3 exhibits narrow S2+ spikes on either 
side of the notch.  Any ideas about that?  I have not seen it mentioned in 
the archives.



Ted, KN1CBR


>
>Message: 3
>Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 08:37:37 -0700
>From: Alan <n1al at sonic.net>
>To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PX3 problem
>Message-ID: <55819441.8050803 at sonic.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowe

>I think you must be referring to the notch that occurs at the KX3 VFO 
>frequency.  The I/Q output of the KX3 is AC-coupled so there is no 
>response at zero HZ, which corresponds to the KX3 VFO frequency.  In CW 
>mode, this is offset from the receive frequency by the CW pitch, 
>typically 600 Hz, either above or below the passband, depending on which 
>sideband is selected.
>
>If there is any 60 Hz or other line-related hum getting into the I/Q 
>input then you will see n*60 Hz sidebands on either side of the notch.
>
>Alan N1AL
>
>
>On 06/16/2015 06:01 PM, John K7JLT wrote:
>> I have not heard anything from Elecraft about this problem.
>>
>> John K7JLT
>>
>> "Dauer, Edward" <edauer at law.du.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Just saw your posts in the archives.  I am experiencing the same, 
>>>except that in my case there are two narrow S2 spikes at either end of 
>>>the empty gap.  Has anyone at the factory ever commented or explained 
>>>what could be done?
>>>
>>> Ted, KN1CBR
>> ______________________________________________________________
>

From w7aqk at cox.net  Thu Jun 18 12:03:23 2015
From: w7aqk at cox.net (dyarnes)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 09:03:23 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S stainless screws
Message-ID: <A50ACF07D0E54092A7B0DB3C5ED0D013@TDYDell>

Hi All,

Interesting how experiences vary.  We spend most summers in our motorhome on 
the Oregon coast--only a couple hundred yards away from the ocean in an RV 
resort.  I've experienced corrosion in just a matter of days while staying 
there.  One summer I "toasted" a laptop just by using it occasionally 
outside under my canopy.  When I opened up the case it looked, well, you can 
guess!  On another occasion, a couple of poles from my Buddipole system got 
corroded so badly I couldn't get them apart, and they were only assembled 
together for about 10 days.  Typically I have to take my antenna down every 
week or two and "refresh" all the connections.

I don't know what causes the variation in experiences from being close to 
salt water.  Maybe it's the prevailing winds?  In our case it is almost 
always off the ocean (west to east).  I do know that, where we are located, 
we are frequently shrouded in fog--at least for as much as several hours. 
Even when it seems clear--or relatively so--you can "feel" the moisture in 
the air.

Anyway, my conclusion is that salt water is insidiously dangerous to 
anything electrical.  Even when I "seal" connections, the corrosion somehow 
sneaks in.  I know one thing--I would never buy a used car that I knew spent 
a good part of its life on the Oregon coast--or most any coast for that 
matter.  Stainless steel hardware is cheap insurance, and I try to use it on 
just about everything that might get even limited exposure to salt air.  The 
problem is that there is almost always some part of an "assembly" that isn't 
protected, and you best check it frequently.  On the K3, stainless steel 
screws are an excellent thing, but there are so many orifices in the rig, 
you need to look inside every so often!

Dave W7AQK



From n5ge at n5ge.com  Thu Jun 18 12:11:32 2015
From: n5ge at n5ge.com (Amateur Radio Operator N5GE)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:11:32 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Loctite
In-Reply-To: <5582D044.7090400@embarqmail.com>
References: <CAE_TyAD0z08SMry-MM-A1zJ92+YBcKqE0SFBfFW8+VUv5ETc2g@mail.gmail.com>
	<53B0E4D2-C89B-4DDA-A7E2-DDE4887ADA86@gmx.com>
	<5582D044.7090400@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <puq5oah184bctm5v2quv172tkaqudtlmra@4ax.com>

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 10:05:56 -0400, you wrote:

>I will repeat my caution to use a good #1 Phillips screwdriver to keep 
>from rounding out the screw heads.  If you can see shiny spots on the 
>screwdriver tip, replace it with a new one.

And make sure you are not using a Reed and Prince screw driver.  A
Reed and Prince screw driver has has a sharp point on the business end
which will keep it from seating properly in the head of a Phillips
screw, which will usually ruine the screw head by stripping the head,
making it very hard to remove.

Amateur Radio Operator 
N5GE 
>
>73,
>Don W3FPR
>
>On 6/18/2015 9:24 AM, Dennis Griffin wrote:
>>
>> Even though the screws may be of a stainless steel material, there is still a slight potential for galvanic corrosion. I?d think that use of a heavy bodied anti-seize compound on these screws would be all the ?thread locker? most OM?s would need.
>>
>>
>
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From gil at keskydee.com  Thu Jun 18 12:28:33 2015
From: gil at keskydee.com (Gil G.)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:28:33 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K1 tuning range issue.
Message-ID: <1434644913.3857.12.camel@Rearden>

Hello,

After selling my K1, what a mistake, I just had to buy another one...
This one was built already. It has the following tuning ranges:

6098.2 - 7077.5
10092.2 - 10170.7
13092.6 - 14071.1
20990.5 - 21069.1

I want to bring the frequency up to the bottom of each band. I wonder
though, why the disparity between the 1.8kHz below bottom on 40m and the
other bands, the worst being 15m at 9.5kHz below band bottom?

When I built my first K1 I remember all four bands were pretty close to
each other as far as range is concerned.

What do I do?

Thanks,

Gil.


From n5ge at n5ge.com  Thu Jun 18 12:28:07 2015
From: n5ge at n5ge.com (Amateur Radio Operator N5GE)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:28:07 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] P3
Message-ID: <l3s5oa58l4q0hd10rdddc4a7773i3799f9@4ax.com>

I thought the P3 would output 1920 x1080, but I can find no setting
for the P3 resolution.

But then again I may be wrong. :-)

Amateur Radio Operator 
N5GE


From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Thu Jun 18 12:54:46 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Harry Yingst via Elecraft)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:54:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] P3
In-Reply-To: <l3s5oa58l4q0hd10rdddc4a7773i3799f9@4ax.com>
References: <l3s5oa58l4q0hd10rdddc4a7773i3799f9@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <1691289632.1251247.1434646486810.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Press Menu button
Turn Knob to SVGA menu
Press Knob
Turn Knob to SVGA res
Press Knob

Turn Knob to desired setting
Press Knob



1920x1080 is Not recommended since it takes more resources.

On a side note I put a capture card in my PC and feed the P3 into thatIt allows me to put the display in a window on my PC and move it around



      From: Amateur Radio Operator N5GE <n5ge at n5ge.com>
 To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:28 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] P3
   
I thought the P3 would output 1920 x1080, but I can find no setting
for the P3 resolution.

But then again I may be wrong. :-)

Amateur Radio Operator 
N5GE

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From pfizenmayer at q.com  Thu Jun 18 13:11:26 2015
From: pfizenmayer at q.com (Hank P)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 10:11:26 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Loctite
In-Reply-To: <5582D044.7090400@embarqmail.com>
References: <CAE_TyAD0z08SMry-MM-A1zJ92+YBcKqE0SFBfFW8+VUv5ETc2g@mail.gmail.com><53B0E4D2-C89B-4DDA-A7E2-DDE4887ADA86@gmx.com>
	<5582D044.7090400@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <99A1283CED58443C984A44CCCDBB40E0@HANKPC>

One more point about "loose" screws or nuts  and Loctite.  Any place the 
hardware is going thru a PC board (or any material that will cold flow at 
the pressures we get) , after a period of time there will be some "cold 
flow" of the board and Loctite will not fix that. Hopefully the split lock 
washers will minimize the effect  .  I had two  transceivers from another 
American manufacturer even with split locks and the tx ALC  would get 
unstable about once a year or two and just tightening all the grounding 
screws around the boards  would tame it down for another year. I suspect if 
I kept them for long enough the clod flow would finally stop.

Hank K7HP


From: Don Wilhelm
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 7:05 AM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Loctite

Mainly for kit builders --
Because the screws are stainless steel but are threaded into aluminum,
there is a small chance of a slight galling of the threads, making it
impossible to fully tighten the screw.  A bit of light oil the first
time a screw is inserted would my choice rather than a thread locking
compound.  If the oil drips, you have too much on - wipe the threads
with a cloth, there will be enough remaining to do the job.

The black screws are *supposed* to be an aid in tightening, but a little
bit of extra gives that last bit of assurance.

I will repeat my caution to use a good #1 Phillips screwdriver to keep
from rounding out the screw heads.  If you can see shiny spots on the
screwdriver tip, replace it with a new one.

73,
Don W3FPR



From n5ge at n5ge.com  Thu Jun 18 13:32:22 2015
From: n5ge at n5ge.com (Amateur Radio Operator N5GE)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:32:22 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] P3
In-Reply-To: <1691289632.1251247.1434646486810.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <l3s5oa58l4q0hd10rdddc4a7773i3799f9@4ax.com>
	<1691289632.1251247.1434646486810.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <b006oap5qvqlbq09197bqog0lh8v31oi4c@4ax.com>

Thanks a million Harry.  That's great!

Amateur Radio Operator 
N5GE

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:54:46 +0000 (UTC), you wrote:

>Press Menu button
>Turn Knob to SVGA menu
>Press Knob
>Turn Knob to SVGA res
>Press Knob
>
>Turn Knob to desired setting
>Press Knob
>
>
>
>1920x1080 is Not recommended since it takes more resources.
>
>On a side note I put a capture card in my PC and feed the P3 into thatIt allows me to put the display in a window on my PC and move it around
>
>
>
>      From: Amateur Radio Operator N5GE <n5ge at n5ge.com>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> 
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:28 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] P3
>   
>I thought the P3 would output 1920 x1080, but I can find no setting
>for the P3 resolution.
>
>But then again I may be wrong. :-)
>
>Amateur Radio Operator 
>N5GE
>
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From kl7uw at acsalaska.net  Thu Jun 18 13:36:47 2015
From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 09:36:47 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] Locktite
Message-ID: <201506181736.t5IHamtO007881@mail42c28.carrierzone.com>

First off my K3 (SN-4043) probably does not have stainless hdwr and 
no evidence of rusting living 2mi from saltwater.

I used blue locktite on 8-32 ss hardware assembling my 6m beam and 
has survived well normal wind vibrations.  I guess those living in 
the highly urbanized world do not drive on unpaved roads so would not 
see abnormal vibration.

The worst mobile radio install I encountered was putting a 100w 
GE-Mastr-II into a D8 Cat on the Alaska North Slope.  It survived 
less than 24 hours.  I drilled and tapped 1/4-20 holes for mounting 
and the internal hardware all loosened and the whole insides fell apart.

I was new to mobile radio at the time (1982) and was not aware that 
they made anti-vibration platforms for this kind of service.  The had 
spring-mount with small shock absorbers between a metal subchassis 
plate and the vehicle.  Not my fault as my employer just showed me 
the work list and left me in charge of the shop.  After an hour on 
the job: "Here's the keys, here's the work list, don't shutoff the 
suburban, see you in three weeks".  High temp was -15F outside.

I worked 18-hour days x 21 and hauled some cash home...never went 
back up there, again.

73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
     "Kits made by KL7UW"
Dubus Mag business:
     dubususa at gmail.com


From rask1553 at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 18 13:58:35 2015
From: rask1553 at bellsouth.net (Michael Raskin)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:58:35 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 For Sale
Message-ID: <AF287EE02A0242ECBADD7132A064903C@MRPC>

I have a late model (s/n 8579) 100 Watt factory assembled K3 with 2nd receiver and antenna tuner.  It also has the latest factory installed KSYN3A Synthesizer boards for both the main and 2nd receivers, as well as lots of other goodies.   The K3 has the latest (ver. 5.14) firmware, and was factory calibrated and aligned. Absolutely pristine and no issues. A new K3s, with the same accessories, would cost you over $4,550.  Buy mine for $3,100.  Not interested in any trades.  Pick up in South Florida, or shipping and insurance extra.

FEATURES:

K3/100-F                  100W Transceiver (factory assembled)

KAT3-F                      ATU (factory Installed)

KXV3A-F                   RX Ant, IF Out and Xverter Interface (factory Installed)

KTCXO3-1-F             XCO (0.5ppm) (factory Installed)

K3EXREF-F                Ext 10MHz Ref Input for K3 (factory Installed)

KDVR3-F                   Digital Voice Recorder (factory Installed)

KRX3-F                      2nd RX for K3 (factory Installed)

KSYN3A                    Two Synthesizers (for main and 2nd RX) - (factory installed)

Pair of 2.8 kHz (8-pole) filters in both the main and sub-receivers

Mike, W4UM  w4um at arrl.net 

From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Thu Jun 18 14:38:44 2015
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:38:44 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
In-Reply-To: <BDE2CB30-A89A-4D8A-8A84-47DF8E5A4477@gmail.com>
References: <gtQ51q00K45oxQM01tQ69e>
	<557FEFCA.7020800@cox.net>	<2FB2E5AD-209D-4D21-8D9B-5A68CB947ECE@gmail.com>	<000301d0a8cb$9985bad0$cc913070$@earthlink.net>	<A64E49F2-8439-4F6B-BC3B-DE64037D9770@gmail.com>	<4061F53746C94E0187C6DE78888B40F2@ejhPC>
	<BDE2CB30-A89A-4D8A-8A84-47DF8E5A4477@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55831034.9030103@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On Wed,6/17/2015 4:55 AM, Marc Veeneman wrote:
> When I connected station ground to the power supply that went away, I think it was a ground loop.

Wrong word, correct solution.  The correct word is "bonding," and there 
ain't no such thing as a "ground loop." What there IS is a difference in 
potential between the chassis of one device and the other. When you bond 
chassis to chassis, you reduce that difference to a small value.

>   With these changes I now have no RFI from either one.

Proper station bonding is quite important, both for safety and to 
minimize noise. But a connection to EARTH, while important for lightning 
protection, is not part of a solution for hum, buzz, or RFI.

http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf

73, Jim K9YC


From n1al at sonic.net  Thu Jun 18 14:40:34 2015
From: n1al at sonic.net (Alan)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:40:34 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Problem
In-Reply-To: <F5A69F2B-BAEC-418E-A872-FFCBB495E24E@law.du.edu>
References: <F5A69F2B-BAEC-418E-A872-FFCBB495E24E@law.du.edu>
Message-ID: <558310A2.2070608@sonic.net>

Hi Ted,

If they are spaced +/-60 Hz or +/- 120 Hz from the notch, then they are 
line-related noise getting on the I/Q signal.

73,

Alan N1AL


On 06/18/2015 08:21 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
> Thanks, Alan; that explains the notch perfectly.  My own version of the
> problem, however, is that the PX3 exhibits narrow S2+ spikes on either
> side of the notch.  Any ideas about that?  I have not seen it mentioned in
> the archives.
>
>
>
> Ted, KN1CBR
>
>
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 08:37:37 -0700
>> From: Alan <n1al at sonic.net>
>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PX3 problem
>> Message-ID: <55819441.8050803 at sonic.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowe
>
>> I think you must be referring to the notch that occurs at the KX3 VFO
>> frequency.  The I/Q output of the KX3 is AC-coupled so there is no
>> response at zero HZ, which corresponds to the KX3 VFO frequency.  In CW
>> mode, this is offset from the receive frequency by the CW pitch,
>> typically 600 Hz, either above or below the passband, depending on which
>> sideband is selected.
>>
>> If there is any 60 Hz or other line-related hum getting into the I/Q
>> input then you will see n*60 Hz sidebands on either side of the notch.
>>
>> Alan N1AL
>>
>>
>> On 06/16/2015 06:01 PM, John K7JLT wrote:
>>> I have not heard anything from Elecraft about this problem.
>>>
>>> John K7JLT
>>>
>>> "Dauer, Edward" <edauer at law.du.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just saw your posts in the archives.  I am experiencing the same,
>>>> except that in my case there are two narrow S2 spikes at either end of
>>>> the empty gap.  Has anyone at the factory ever commented or explained
>>>> what could be done?
>>>>
>>>> Ted, KN1CBR
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>
>
>

From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Thu Jun 18 15:10:52 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 15:10:52 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K1 tuning range issue.
In-Reply-To: <1434644913.3857.12.camel@Rearden>
References: <1434644913.3857.12.camel@Rearden>
Message-ID: <558317BC.8070108@embarqmail.com>

Gil,

Move the VFO frequency (L1 turns spacing) so the VFO frequency is closer 
to 3.090 kHz.  That will raise the frequency of the output signal a bit.
See page 38 of the manual "VFO Range Adjustment".

There does have to be some "wiggle room" at the bottom of each band 
because of the variance  in the 'real' frequency of the crystals on the 
band board.
If one were to replace those crystals with custom made precision 
crystals, you could get the bottom of each band to line up with the 
bottom of the other bands, but that would be expensive.  I don't know 
what the frequency tolerance is on the stock crystals, but the 'wiggle 
room' is necessary with crystals at a price point that is affordable for 
most hams.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/18/2015 12:28 PM, Gil G. wrote:
> Hello,
>
> After selling my K1, what a mistake, I just had to buy another one...
> This one was built already. It has the following tuning ranges:
>
> 6098.2 - 7077.5
> 10092.2 - 10170.7
> 13092.6 - 14071.1
> 20990.5 - 21069.1
>
> I want to bring the frequency up to the bottom of each band. I wonder
> though, why the disparity between the 1.8kHz below bottom on 40m and the
> other bands, the worst being 15m at 9.5kHz below band bottom?
>
> When I built my first K1 I remember all four bands were pretty close to
> each other as far as range is concerned.
>
> What do I do?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gil.
>
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From EagleEyeDennis at gmx.com  Thu Jun 18 15:14:05 2015
From: EagleEyeDennis at gmx.com (Dennis Griffin)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:14:05 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S stainless screws
In-Reply-To: <5582DF44.2090906@mebtel.net>
References: <5582DF44.2090906@mebtel.net>
Message-ID: <9C97014C-4B82-4489-AF9A-7BC2EA1B5581@gmx.com>

Regarding my earlier comment about the use of an anti-seize vs. a threadlocker: I don?t have a K3S, so have no direct experience with the screws being discussed; I haven?t really been following the SS screw thread, therefore didn?t realize that they apparently have the conversion coat Howie mentions; this being the case, I would agree with Howie that most OM?s shouldn?t need to take extra measures to ensure retention of the subject screws.

Having been a motorcyclist who maintains his own for 50 years, I do have considerable experience with the proper application of threadlockers, and as previously stated, it wouldn?t seem that use of one is really indicated here. FWIW, if I were subjecting electronic gear to a high vibration environment w/o taking steps to isolate it from the vibrations, I?d have greater concerns than a screw or few coming loose, hi.

73 de Dennis KD7CAC
Scottsdale, AZ

> On Jun 18, 2015, at 8:09 AM, Howard Hoyt <hhoyt at mebtel.net> wrote:
> 
> Properly done, hot-process black oxide finish on plain steel with a wax sealer can be quite corrosion resistance, there is even a MIL spec for that (well, there is for everything including waffles, I suspect!).  I would think that accounts for the reports of the plain steel screws not corroding.
> 
> Interestingly enough a reason a black oxide or especially black zinc finish is applied to stainless steel is not related to appearance nor corrosion resistance, but to forestall galling.  The combination of the intervening layer (>0.0002" of black-zinc conversion coating, 0.000005" for hot-process black-oxide) and the wax or other sealer aids in lowering interface friction.  And although the wax acts a an EP lubricant while tightening, it's stiction characteristic can aid in fastener retention.
> 
> Howie - WA4PSC

From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Thu Jun 18 15:14:22 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 19:14:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
In-Reply-To: <55831034.9030103@audiosystemsgroup.com>
References: <55831034.9030103@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <625578233.1676781.1434654862884.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Jim, are you not contradicting yourself??
>>> " and there 
ain't no such thing as a "ground loop." <<< 

>> What there IS is a difference in 
potential between the chassis of one device and the other. <<?
Isn't your stated wording almost the exact wording used by many, including Wikipedia as a " Ground Loop"?
I'm a bit confused. 

((((73)))) Milverton / W9MMS. 


      From: Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
 To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
   
On Wed,6/17/2015 4:55 AM, Marc Veeneman wrote:
> When I connected station ground to the power supply that went away, I think it was a ground loop.

Wrong word, correct solution.? The correct word is "bonding," and there 
ain't no such thing as a "ground loop." What there IS is a difference in 
potential between the chassis of one device and the other. When you bond 
chassis to chassis, you reduce that difference to a small value.

>? With these changes I now have no RFI from either one.

Proper station bonding is quite important, both for safety and to 
minimize noise. But a connection to EARTH, while important for lightning 
protection, is not part of a solution for hum, buzz, or RFI.

http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf

73, Jim K9YC

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From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Thu Jun 18 15:54:23 2015
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:54:23 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
In-Reply-To: <625578233.1676781.1434654862884.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <55831034.9030103@audiosystemsgroup.com>
	<625578233.1676781.1434654862884.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <558321EF.5020703@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On Thu,6/18/2015 12:14 PM, tnnyswy at yahoo.com wrote:
> Jim, are you not contradicting yourself?
>
> >>> " and there
> ain't no such thing as a "ground loop." <<<
>
> >> What there IS is a difference in
> potential between the chassis of one device and the other. <<
>
> Isn't your stated wording almost the exact wording used by many, 
> including Wikipedia as a " Ground Loop"

The words "ground loop" are misleading, because they do not describe 
what is going on, which in turn causes people to do dumb things to solve 
the problem.

I've not read the Wikipedia entry. Rather, I'm using EE circuit analysis 
101.

73, Jim K9YC
>
> I'm a bit confused.
>
> ((((73)))) Milverton / W9MMS.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> *To:* elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:38 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
>
> On Wed,6/17/2015 4:55 AM, Marc Veeneman wrote:
> > When I connected station ground to the power supply that went away, 
> I think it was a ground loop.
>
> Wrong word, correct solution.  The correct word is "bonding," and there
> ain't no such thing as a "ground loop." What there IS is a difference in
> potential between the chassis of one device and the other. When you bond
> chassis to chassis, you reduce that difference to a small value.
>
> >  With these changes I now have no RFI from either one.
>
> Proper station bonding is quite important, both for safety and to
> minimize noise. But a connection to EARTH, while important for lightning
> protection, is not part of a solution for hum, buzz, or RFI.
>
> http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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From jdfreed at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 18 15:59:19 2015
From: jdfreed at bellsouth.net (John Freed)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:59:19 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
In-Reply-To: <625578233.1676781.1434654862884.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <55831034.9030103@audiosystemsgroup.com>
	<625578233.1676781.1434654862884.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D01FE30B4CD044229F7B08ECC89D6081@homePC>

Hi!!  I have a K3 ser# 07023.  I use a MFJ-4125P switching power supply to 
operate my rig.  Using it with my K3 for over a year.  No problems.  The 
Elecraft K3 switching power supply should work as well if not better than 
the MFJ where noise (rf and otherwise) is concerned.  The ARRL has several 
reviews of switching power supplies in their on line archives.
Hope this helps and / or adds to the conversation.

>> John, KX6F  <<

-----Original Message----- 
From: Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:14 PM
To: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com ; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply

Jim, are you not contradicting yourself?
>>> " and there
ain't no such thing as a "ground loop." <<<

>> What there IS is a difference in
potential between the chassis of one device and the other. <<
Isn't your stated wording almost the exact wording used by many, including 
Wikipedia as a " Ground Loop"
I'm a bit confused.

((((73)))) Milverton / W9MMS.


      From: Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply

On Wed,6/17/2015 4:55 AM, Marc Veeneman wrote:
> When I connected station ground to the power supply that went away, I 
> think it was a ground loop.

Wrong word, correct solution.  The correct word is "bonding," and there
ain't no such thing as a "ground loop." What there IS is a difference in
potential between the chassis of one device and the other. When you bond
chassis to chassis, you reduce that difference to a small value.

>  With these changes I now have no RFI from either one.

Proper station bonding is quite important, both for safety and to
minimize noise. But a connection to EARTH, while important for lightning
protection, is not part of a solution for hum, buzz, or RFI.

http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf

73, Jim K9YC

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From ctate at ewnetinc.com  Thu Jun 18 18:09:33 2015
From: ctate at ewnetinc.com (Chris Tate - N6WM)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 22:09:33 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 > KXPA100 > KPA500
Message-ID: <236350B81BC09D42B8C3B41A97C654DD4FB7DE@AUSP01DAG0504.collaborationhost.net>

How well does this setup work?  I am sure it has been discussed ad nauseum at some point but I may have missed it.

From davidahrendts at me.com  Thu Jun 18 18:14:49 2015
From: davidahrendts at me.com (David Ahrendts)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 15:14:49 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 > KXPA100 > KPA500
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References: <236350B81BC09D42B8C3B41A97C654DD4FB7DE@AUSP01DAG0504.collaborationhost.net>
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Flawlessly. Perfectly. 30 watts out of the KXPA100 typically drives the KPA500 to 500 watts. Contact me off list if you wish.

David Ahrendts, KC0XT, LA
DavidAhrendts at me.com
 
> On Jun 18, 2015, at 3:09 PM, Chris Tate - N6WM <ctate at ewnetinc.com> wrote:
> 
> How well does this setup work?  I am sure it has been discussed ad nauseum at some point but I may have missed it.
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From pincon at erols.com  Thu Jun 18 19:48:51 2015
From: pincon at erols.com (Charlie T, K3ICH)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 19:48:51 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S stainless screws
In-Reply-To: <9C97014C-4B82-4489-AF9A-7BC2EA1B5581@gmx.com>
References: <5582DF44.2090906@mebtel.net>
	<9C97014C-4B82-4489-AF9A-7BC2EA1B5581@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <006001d0aa21$588bbd20$09a33760$@erols.com>


There is also another standard.  Specifically, Japanese hardware does not conform exactly the our similar Phillips specifications.

If you do a lot of work with Asian production equipment, you might want to invest in a set of screwdrivers that are made to the JIS, or Japanese Industrial Standard.

Hozan (Japan) and Moody (USA) are a couple good manufacturers of JIS drivers. 

You'll find that you bugger up an lot fewer screw heads that way. 

I'd appreciate any comment from Elecraft as to what type screws they actually use.

Here's a link that has a good explanation. No connection to me, just info only.

http://www.vesseltools.com/hand-tools/screwdrivers/jis-japanese-industrial-standard/view-all-products.html

73, Charlie k3ICH


From kk5f at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 18 21:27:58 2015
From: kk5f at earthlink.net (Mike Morrow)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 20:27:58 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [Elecraft] K1 tuning range issue.
Message-ID: <21989536.1434677279036.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Gil wrote of his K1:

> This one was built already. It has the following tuning ranges:
>
>  6098.2 - 7077.5

Doubtless you meant 6998.2 low end.

> 10092.2 - 10170.7
> 13092.6 - 14071.1
> 20990.5 - 21069.1
>
>> I want to bring the frequency up to the bottom of each band. I wonder
>> though, why the disparity between the 1.8kHz below bottom on 40m and the
>> other bands, the worst being 15m at 9.5kHz below band bottom?

The variation in each band's low end for your K1 is better than the typical K1s that I have seen since I got mine in 2000.  The disparity results because the ACTUAL oscillation frequency of each of the four heterodyne crystals on the filter board does NOT vary by the exact same number of kHz from the nominal crystal frequency.  To get all four bands starting at the same offset in kHz from the low end of the bands, you do NOT need the filter board crystals to be exactly on their nominal frequency, but you do need the same kHz difference from nominal frequency for ALL four crystals.  That is most unlikely unless there are temperature stable trimmer capacitors for each crystal to allow adjustment.  There are no such trimmers on the filter board.

>> What do I do?

Do NOTHING!  Lowering the VFO frequency by compress turn on RF board L1 will raise the low end frequency of *all four bands* by the same number of kHz.  All that you can tolerate is an increase of about 1.0 kHz which will start your 40m low end at 6999.2 kHz...uncomfortably tight especially since temperature changes will at times move the low end closer or even above 7000 kHz.

I think your 6998.2 kHz low end is ideal for a K1 40m low end.  As for the other three bands, it is *impossible* to bring them in closer to the band's nominal low end without upsetting the 40m low end by the same amount.

These minor uncorrectible variations are mainly cosmetic.  If you need more coverage at any band's high end, consider adopting the wider "150 kHz" VFO option (you will actually get a VFO span of about 180 kHz, and you might want to change the 30m heterodyne crystal to start the coverage near 10000 kHz.)

Mike / KK5F




From ayoshida at my.email.ne.jp  Thu Jun 18 22:47:22 2015
From: ayoshida at my.email.ne.jp (ayoshida)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 11:47:22 +0900
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Sub button
Message-ID: <CAC19D8DD15A40F7A608B13A170316FA@PC3>

K3 FW 05.14

I do not know when it started this problem, however short holding and long holding
Sub button always initiate Diversity mode. I tried SWH48; command with same result.
So I can not initiate Link/Unlink.  Any idea ?


73 de aki
ja1nlx

From dick at elecraft.com  Thu Jun 18 23:00:57 2015
From: dick at elecraft.com (Dick Dievendorff)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 20:00:57 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Sub button
In-Reply-To: <CAC19D8DD15A40F7A608B13A170316FA@PC3>
References: <CAC19D8DD15A40F7A608B13A170316FA@PC3>
Message-ID: <017c01d0aa3c$2a6cafb0$7f460f10$@elecraft.com>

Check the firmware release notes:

CU 5.10 / DSP 2.83, 2-2-2015

* EASIER DIVERSITY RECEIVE SELECTION: A regular hold of SUB now goes
directly into diversity receive, without first having to go through "LINK".
This should benefit most users of the KRX3 sub receiver, since few use the
VFO linking function. Those who do use VFO linking can still turn it on by
setting CONFIG:VFO LNK to ON. This menu entry can be assigned to a
programmable function switch for easy selection if desired, eliminating the
need to bring up the menu. Note: Remote-control command "LN" is another way
to accomplish VFO linking.

73 de Dick, K6KR


-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
ayoshida
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 19:47 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Sub button

K3 FW 05.14

I do not know when it started this problem, however short holding and long
holding Sub button always initiate Diversity mode. I tried SWH48; command
with same result.
So I can not initiate Link/Unlink.  Any idea ?


73 de aki
ja1nlx
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From ayoshida at my.email.ne.jp  Thu Jun 18 23:14:37 2015
From: ayoshida at my.email.ne.jp (ayoshida)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:14:37 +0900
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Sub button
In-Reply-To: <017c01d0aa3c$2a6cafb0$7f460f10$@elecraft.com>
References: <CAC19D8DD15A40F7A608B13A170316FA@PC3>
	<017c01d0aa3c$2a6cafb0$7f460f10$@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <E7C56169E76D49B4842AD090437755DD@PC3>

Dick

Ooops.....I missed this note.
I appreciate your suggestion. Thanks

73 de aki
ja1nlx

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dick Dievendorff 
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 12:00 PM 
To: 'ayoshida' ; elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Sub button 

Check the firmware release notes:

CU 5.10 / DSP 2.83, 2-2-2015

* EASIER DIVERSITY RECEIVE SELECTION: A regular hold of SUB now goes
directly into diversity receive, without first having to go through "LINK".
This should benefit most users of the KRX3 sub receiver, since few use the
VFO linking function. Those who do use VFO linking can still turn it on by
setting CONFIG:VFO LNK to ON. This menu entry can be assigned to a
programmable function switch for easy selection if desired, eliminating the
need to bring up the menu. Note: Remote-control command "LN" is another way
to accomplish VFO linking.

73 de Dick, K6KR


-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
ayoshida
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 19:47 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Sub button

K3 FW 05.14

I do not know when it started this problem, however short holding and long
holding Sub button always initiate Diversity mode. I tried SWH48; command
with same result.
So I can not initiate Link/Unlink.  Any idea ?


73 de aki
ja1nlx
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From eric at elecraft.com  Thu Jun 18 23:23:42 2015
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 20:23:42 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3B install problems
In-Reply-To: <5580E3CF.7080600@mchsi.com>
References: <E25DA2C9776B40B197C2F8EF21F579B0@ejhPC>
	<1434463259321-7604034.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<5580E3CF.7080600@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <AF688392-A34D-4269-BC2B-4B7F97AAD3A0@elecraft.com>

We've now double checked this, and we have confirmed that the KXV3 pin length has -not- changed between the KXV3A and the KXV3B. It is not necessary to trim the pins during installation.

Its always been a tight fit, but not too difficult, to install this board set as an upgrade. We checked with our inside repair techs and our K3 factory assemblers and they are not seeing any change from the old boards to the new ones when they do this installation. Of course they have a lot of experience installing these, so we will be updating our KXV3B installation document to add better instructions, like the suggestions in the emails below, for installing the KXV3B.

73,

Eric
elecraft.com
_..._

> On Jun 16, 2015, at 8:04 PM, Michael Eberle <mteberle at mchsi.com> wrote:
> 
> I just removed the KIO3 modules and the rear panel to avoid having to cut pins or bend boards.  The fan panel had to be removed to access a screw holding the rear panel to the KPA100 shield though.
> 
> Mike
> KI0HA
> 
>> On 6/16/2015 9:00 AM, NW0M wrote:
>> Last night I installed the new KXV3B board into my K3.  Yes, the pins are
>> just a bit long - maybe 1/16 inch.  Just long enough that the pins don't
>> clear the J66 socket as stated in the installation instructions.
>> 
>> But after several tries, I was finally able to do it without clipping the
>> leads or any other modification.  With one hand, I asserted some upwards
>> pressure on the BNC connectors and some slight downwards pressure on the RF
>> board below.  Then with the other hand, I ran my finger along the pins and
>> was able to press them so they mated to the socket.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 73, Mitch NW0M

From glen.torr at gmail.com  Fri Jun 19 02:05:50 2015
From: glen.torr at gmail.com (Glen Torr)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:05:50 +1000
Subject: [Elecraft] K1 slightly frequency shift
In-Reply-To: <14e05ee6ede-2d23-3a68@webprd-m93.mail.aol.com>
References: <14e05ee6ede-2d23-3a68@webprd-m93.mail.aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAP3kmB5po9hnhsuErEYFr8bMO_ApO4Zob_z2vND=8XPjdQp38Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Harry,

I have purchased an X-Lock frequency stabiliser kit from Cumbria Designs,
cumbriadesigns.co.uk. I have not built and installed it yet so can't
comment on it but positive reviews and good article on installing it in the
K1.
Cheers,
Glen VK1FB
On Thursday, June 18, 2015, Harry via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
wrote:

>
>  Hello
>
> since a week I am also very happy owner of a K1 with the 4 band module,
> atu and nb board.
>
> The rx is amazing, but I notice a slight shift of the vfo if I am put my
> hand on the top cover of the K1.
> I notice this shift, about 100 hz, also after a longer warm up periode.
> Even when I put one or two fingers above the vfo dial.
> Any hints to reduce this little frequency shift?
>
>
>
> 73 de Harry, DK2GZ
>
> Elecraft K1 / K2/100 / K3 / KPA500
>
>
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From vk2bj at optusnet.com.au  Fri Jun 19 06:04:50 2015
From: vk2bj at optusnet.com.au (Barry Simpson)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 20:04:50 +1000
Subject: [Elecraft] KXV3B install - no problems
Message-ID: <CA+03d8j5hfyy5KFB2RUgL-iNtxXhxtAO5ZTkP+JgjzQ_GgfMpw@mail.gmail.com>

I have just completed installing the KXV3B in my K3 s/n 1397. It already
had a KXV3 in it (and a sub receiver which had to be removed and put back)
and I am pleased to report that it all went together quite easily.

I updated the firmware to the required beta version and the new preamp 2
seems to work perfectly although no signals yet heard on 6/10/12m.

I was initially troubled by the pre flashing on the display and thought
there was some fault. However, I assume that it is an indicator that Pre 2
is turned on. Please can you remove that feature as I find it mildly
irritating.

Mine is an early serial number K3 that I built around August/September 2008
and until installing the KXV3B today, I had not even taken the top cover
off for several years. It was a pleasant surprise to find the interior of
the K3 looking absolutely pristine and dust free, other than for a very
light coating on the PA heat sink, which I cleaned off. I also took the
opportunity of replacing the battery (the original) although the voltage
still showed 2.97 after all that time when I tested it.


73

Barry Simpson  VK2BJ

From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Fri Jun 19 08:36:27 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Harry via Elecraft)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 08:36:27 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K1 slightly frequency shift
In-Reply-To: <CAP3kmB5po9hnhsuErEYFr8bMO_ApO4Zob_z2vND=8XPjdQp38Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <14e0bd1f9bc-55ee-7a29@webprd-a86.mail.aol.com>

Hello Glen,

got the info about the X-Lock also from G4AON.

But I am not asking about a drift in general, I noticed this small shift only if I put my hands on the top cover.

 

73 de Harry, DK2GZ


 

 

-----Urspr?ngliche Mitteilung----- 
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An: dk2gz <dk2gz at aol.com>
Cc: elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Verschickt: Fr, 19 Jun 2015 8:05 am
Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] K1 slightly frequency shift


 
Hi Harry, 
  
 
 
I have purchased an X-Lock frequency stabiliser kit from Cumbria Designs,   cumbriadesigns.co.uk. I have not built and installed it yet so can't comment on it but positive reviews and good article on installing it in the K1. 
 
Cheers, 
 
Glen VK1FB  
On Thursday, June 18, 2015, Harry via Elecraft <  elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:  
  
   
  Hello   
    
 since a week I am also very happy owner of a K1 with the 4 band module, atu and nb board.   
    
 The rx is amazing, but I notice a slight shift of the vfo if I am put my hand on the top cover of the K1.   
 I notice this shift, about 100 hz, also after a longer warm up periode. Even when I put one or two fingers above the vfo dial.   
 Any hints to reduce this little frequency shift?   
    
    
    
 73 de Harry, DK2GZ   
    
 Elecraft K1 / K2/100 / K3 / KPA500   
    
    
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From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Fri Jun 19 08:55:28 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 08:55:28 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K1 slightly frequency shift
In-Reply-To: <14e05ee6ede-2d23-3a68@webprd-m93.mail.aol.com>
References: <14e05ee6ede-2d23-3a68@webprd-m93.mail.aol.com>
Message-ID: <55841140.70404@embarqmail.com>

Harry,

Make certain L1 is mounted properly.  Something is apparently moving in 
relationship to the L1 winding and causing the coupling to change.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/18/2015 5:09 AM, Harry via Elecraft wrote:
>   Hello
>
> since a week I am also very happy owner of a K1 with the 4 band module, atu and nb board.
>
> The rx is amazing, but I notice a slight shift of the vfo if I am put my hand on the top cover of the K1.
> I notice this shift, about 100 hz, also after a longer warm up periode. Even when I put one or two fingers above the vfo dial.
> Any hints to reduce this little frequency shift?
>


From dbbrown624 at gmail.com  Fri Jun 19 15:03:58 2015
From: dbbrown624 at gmail.com (David Brown)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 15:03:58 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K1 tuning range issue.
Message-ID: <CAOh1mTSiAuCBpfgr4=V6-sAM6b1qoiv7jAak-YyO-rjHzGpq+A@mail.gmail.com>

Gil,

My K1 is a two band (40/20) model purchased in 2001.  I too was concerned
with the lost "wiggle room" at the bottom of the bands, not to mention
different values on the two bands.  The 150 kHz VFO range ( I got 177 kHz)
was a bit too touchy for me yet the lower range was nice for smooth tuning
but a little limited on band coverage.  I decided a tuning range of 100 kHz
on 40 would be a nice trade off between band coverage and smooth tuning.
Experimentally I got this by changing C2 from 68 pF to 78 pF, then adding
14.1 pF across L1 to adjust the VFO range.  Silvered mica capacitors were
used for the mods.  I wound up with:

    104 kHz band coverage
    1.1 kHz lost wiggle room below 7.0 mHz
    7.4 kHz lost wiggle room below 14.0 kHz

73, Dave K8AX

From dk5ya at dk5ya.de  Fri Jun 19 16:46:51 2015
From: dk5ya at dk5ya.de (Udo Langenohl - DK5YA)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 22:46:51 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] KXV3B install - no problems
In-Reply-To: <CA+03d8j5hfyy5KFB2RUgL-iNtxXhxtAO5ZTkP+JgjzQ_GgfMpw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+03d8j5hfyy5KFB2RUgL-iNtxXhxtAO5ZTkP+JgjzQ_GgfMpw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55847FBB.6020701@dk5ya.de>

Just got my KXV3-B as a replacement of the former KXV3-A. Installing 
complete after 1 hour. Removing the back panel makes things much easier 
btw. But there's an issue. The 1 mW calibration fails. Thats what the 
Elecraft Utility says:

Elecraft K3 Utility Revision 1.13.5.9
OS Version 6.1 Build 7601 Windows 7/Windows Server 2008 R2
K3 MCU revision 05.26. RS-232 speed 38400 bit/s.
Starting 1 milliwatt calibration
Calibrating at 1.900 MHz
Calibration power settled at " 1.800.00;"
Elapsed time: 5 seconds
Tx Gain calibration failed because transmit power did not reach the 
expected value
1 milliwatt calibration failed

Wait, there's more to come. I made a replacement because my guess was: 
KXV3-A has a damage.
I use my K3 mostly on VHF with transverters, especially on 144 MHz EME. 
I'm running a Xpol configuration with 4 antennas on 144 EME with two 
identical transverters, both in phase and locked by a common external LO 
with 10 MHz GPS control for Hpol and Vpol.
HPol RX is fed to the KXV3 XVTR In/Out while Vpol is fed to the AUX RF 
input. I can listen to both planes simultaneously using diversity receive.
But something very strange happens when I compare signals on both 
planes. I have a 144 MHz beacon nearby (just 25 miles away). That beacon 
is running 8 W on a Hpol antenna. On my Hpol (main RX via KXV3) input 
this beacon comes up to S9+35 dB while on Vpol (second RX via AUX) it's 
endstop (S9 +60dB). The beacon is in the line of sight, there's a lot of 
RF on my location from this beacon.
It's definetely not from the transverters or from mismatched antennas 
because when I change inputs and connect the Hpol transverter output to 
the AUX RF it's suddenly S9 +60 dB too. Both main and sub RX are exactly 
in the same configuration, filters, bandwidth, NB Off, etc..
I checked S/N on KXVR3-A (old board) and AUX few days ago with my 
HP8664A signal generator.
On 28.200 (TVTR IF) I measured:
Top values:
KXV3-A TVTR IN:   	-10dBm = S9+25dB
AUX IN:     		-10dBm = S9+60dB (!)
KXV3-A TVTR IN:      	+3dBm = S9+60dB
Huge difference of 13dBm
Low values:
KXV3-A TVTR IN:  	-134dBm = signal detectable
KXV3-A TVTR IN:     	-140dBm = none
AUX IN:        		-140dBm = signal detectable
Again a difference of at least 6dB or more.

Now, with the new KXV3-B it's even worse, at least 22 dB difference 
between the AUX IN and TVTR IN.

What the heck is going wrong here? MAIN RX dead?

73 Udo, DK5YA


Am 19.06.2015 um 12:04 schrieb Barry Simpson:
> I have just completed installing the KXV3B in my K3 s/n 1397. It already
> had a KXV3 in it (and a sub receiver which had to be removed and put back)
> and I am pleased to report that it all went together quite easily.
>
> I updated the firmware to the required beta version and the new preamp 2
> seems to work perfectly although no signals yet heard on 6/10/12m.
>
> I was initially troubled by the pre flashing on the display and thought
> there was some fault. However, I assume that it is an indicator that Pre 2
> is turned on. Please can you remove that feature as I find it mildly
> irritating.
>
> Mine is an early serial number K3 that I built around August/September 2008
> and until installing the KXV3B today, I had not even taken the top cover
> off for several years. It was a pleasant surprise to find the interior of
> the K3 looking absolutely pristine and dust free, other than for a very
> light coating on the PA heat sink, which I cleaned off. I also took the
> opportunity of replacing the battery (the original) although the voltage
> still showed 2.97 after all that time when I tested it.
>
>
> 73
>
> Barry Simpson  VK2BJ
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From dk5ya at dk5ya.de  Fri Jun 19 16:50:33 2015
From: dk5ya at dk5ya.de (Udo Langenohl - DK5YA)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 22:50:33 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] KXV3 Issues - endless frustration
Message-ID: <55848099.5020105@dk5ya.de>

Just got my KXV3-B as a replacement of the former KXV3-A. Installing 
complete after 1 hour. Removing the back panel makes things much easier 
btw. But there's an issue. The 1 mW calibration fails. Thats what the 
Elecraft Utility says:

Elecraft K3 Utility Revision 1.13.5.9
OS Version 6.1 Build 7601 Windows 7/Windows Server 2008 R2
K3 MCU revision 05.26. RS-232 speed 38400 bit/s.
Starting 1 milliwatt calibration
Calibrating at 1.900 MHz
Calibration power settled at " 1.800.00;"
Elapsed time: 5 seconds
Tx Gain calibration failed because transmit power did not reach the 
expected value
1 milliwatt calibration failed

Wait, there's more to come. I made a replacement because my guess was: 
KXV3-A has a damage.
I use my K3 mostly on VHF with transverters, especially on 144 MHz EME. 
I'm running a Xpol configuration with 4 antennas on 144 EME with two 
identical transverters, both in phase and locked by a common external LO 
with 10 MHz GPS control for Hpol and Vpol.
HPol RX is fed to the KXV3 XVTR In/Out while Vpol is fed to the AUX RF 
input. I can listen to both planes simultaneously using diversity receive.
But something very strange happens when I compare signals on both 
planes. I have a 144 MHz beacon nearby (just 25 miles away). That beacon 
is running 8 W on a Hpol antenna. On my Hpol (main RX via KXV3) input 
this beacon comes up to S9+35 dB while on Vpol (second RX via AUX) it's 
endstop (S9 +60dB). The beacon is in the line of sight, there's a lot of 
RF on my location from this beacon.
It's definetely not from the transverters or from mismatched antennas 
because when I change inputs and connect the Hpol transverter output to 
the AUX RF it's suddenly S9 +60 dB too. Both main and sub RX are exactly 
in the same configuration, filters, bandwidth, NB Off, etc..
I checked S/N on KXVR3-A (old board) and AUX few days ago with my 
HP8664A signal generator.
On 28.200 (TVTR IF) I measured:
Top values:
KXV3-A TVTR IN:       -10dBm = S9+25dB
AUX IN:             -10dBm = S9+60dB (!)
KXV3-A TVTR IN:          +3dBm = S9+60dB
Huge difference of at least 13dBm
Low values:
KXV3-A TVTR IN:      -134dBm = signal detectable
KXV3-A TVTR IN:         -140dBm = none
AUX IN:                -140dBm = clear signal detectable
Again a difference of at least 6dB or even more.

Now, with the new KXV3-B it's even worse, at least 22 dB difference 
between the AUX IN and TVTR IN.

What the heck is going wrong here? MAIN RX dead?

73 Udo, DK5YA

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From lists at subich.com  Fri Jun 19 17:42:33 2015
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 17:42:33 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KXV3B install - no problems
In-Reply-To: <CA+03d8j5hfyy5KFB2RUgL-iNtxXhxtAO5ZTkP+JgjzQ_GgfMpw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+03d8j5hfyy5KFB2RUgL-iNtxXhxtAO5ZTkP+JgjzQ_GgfMpw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55848CC9.9010805@subich.com>


I also installed the KXV3B in my K3 s/n 1450 yesterday evening with no
problems - other than of my own doing <G>.  The K3 has a KRX3 and two
of the new synthesizers installed so of course the KRX3 needed to be
removed to gain access to the KIO3 and KXV3.

In removing and reinstalling the KRX3 one of TMP cables between the
KREF3 and one of the synthesizers came lose and I failed to notice it.
After buttoning up the K3 and enabling the KVX3B, I had no receive and
no TX power output.  Removing the top of the rig and resetting the bad
cable fixed the problem.  While I was at it I also reseated all of the
TMP cables to/from the KREF3 and both synthesizers.

The KXV3B went in without a hitch - no problems with pin length or
board height.  I inserted the KXV3B pins all the way into J66 then
allowed the board to rotate toward the back panel and adjusted its
final height as appropriate to align the mounting bushings with the
screw holes and the rear (cover) panel.

Preamp 2 appears to be somewhat more sensitive than the PR6/KXV3 that
was replaced.  A quick test with the XG3 and P3 on six meters shows
the -108 dBm signal to be approximately 42 dB above the noise floor
which would work out to an MDS of better than -150 dBm in a 500 Hz
bandwidth.  This compares to approximately -133 dBm with Preamp 1
and -126 dBm with the preamp off.  Not shabby in the least.


73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-06-19 6:04 AM, Barry Simpson wrote:
> I have just completed installing the KXV3B in my K3 s/n 1397. It already
> had a KXV3 in it (and a sub receiver which had to be removed and put back)
> and I am pleased to report that it all went together quite easily.

From n6kr at elecraft.com  Sat Jun 20 00:13:07 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 21:13:07 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KXV3 Issues - endless frustration
In-Reply-To: <55848099.5020105@dk5ya.de>
References: <55848099.5020105@dk5ya.de>
Message-ID: <F192952C-9B7E-4272-923E-130700D77C91@elecraft.com>

Udo,

I'm not sure how the 1-mW calibration could fail. But I'll keep trying to duplicate the problem on my K3 (no luck so far). The rest of the crew will be back Monday, and they may have other suggestions.

The KXV3B should have essentially the same path loss, but better port isolation, than the KXV3A. So your signal strength tests don't make sense, either.

Note that the KXV3B includes the second preamp, which has a lot more gain than the main preamp. Are you using preamp 2 on the IF band?

73,
Wayne
N6KR





On Jun 19, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Udo Langenohl - DK5YA <dk5ya at dk5ya.de> wrote:

> Just got my KXV3-B as a replacement of the former KXV3-A. Installing complete after 1 hour. Removing the back panel makes things much easier btw. But there's an issue. The 1 mW calibration fails. Thats what the Elecraft Utility says:
> 
> Elecraft K3 Utility Revision 1.13.5.9
> OS Version 6.1 Build 7601 Windows 7/Windows Server 2008 R2
> K3 MCU revision 05.26. RS-232 speed 38400 bit/s.
> Starting 1 milliwatt calibration
> Calibrating at 1.900 MHz
> Calibration power settled at " 1.800.00;"
> Elapsed time: 5 seconds
> Tx Gain calibration failed because transmit power did not reach the expected value
> 1 milliwatt calibration failed
> 
> Wait, there's more to come. I made a replacement because my guess was: KXV3-A has a damage.
> I use my K3 mostly on VHF with transverters, especially on 144 MHz EME. I'm running a Xpol configuration with 4 antennas on 144 EME with two identical transverters, both in phase and locked by a common external LO with 10 MHz GPS control for Hpol and Vpol.
> HPol RX is fed to the KXV3 XVTR In/Out while Vpol is fed to the AUX RF input. I can listen to both planes simultaneously using diversity receive.
> But something very strange happens when I compare signals on both planes. I have a 144 MHz beacon nearby (just 25 miles away). That beacon is running 8 W on a Hpol antenna. On my Hpol (main RX via KXV3) input this beacon comes up to S9+35 dB while on Vpol (second RX via AUX) it's endstop (S9 +60dB). The beacon is in the line of sight, there's a lot of RF on my location from this beacon.
> It's definetely not from the transverters or from mismatched antennas because when I change inputs and connect the Hpol transverter output to the AUX RF it's suddenly S9 +60 dB too. Both main and sub RX are exactly in the same configuration, filters, bandwidth, NB Off, etc..
> I checked S/N on KXVR3-A (old board) and AUX few days ago with my HP8664A signal generator.
> On 28.200 (TVTR IF) I measured:
> Top values:
> KXV3-A TVTR IN:       -10dBm = S9+25dB
> AUX IN:             -10dBm = S9+60dB (!)
> KXV3-A TVTR IN:          +3dBm = S9+60dB
> Huge difference of at least 13dBm
> Low values:
> KXV3-A TVTR IN:      -134dBm = signal detectable
> KXV3-A TVTR IN:         -140dBm = none
> AUX IN:                -140dBm = clear signal detectable
> Again a difference of at least 6dB or even more.
> 
> Now, with the new KXV3-B it's even worse, at least 22 dB difference between the AUX IN and TVTR IN.
> 
> What the heck is going wrong here? MAIN RX dead?
> 
> 73 Udo, DK5YA
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From droese at necg.de  Sat Jun 20 03:32:14 2015
From: droese at necg.de (=?windows-1252?Q?Oliver_Dr=F6se?=)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 09:32:14 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] KXV3 Issues - endless frustration
In-Reply-To: <55848099.5020105@dk5ya.de>
References: <55848099.5020105@dk5ya.de>
Message-ID: <558516FE.5050606@necg.de>

Hi Udo,

the mW calibration never worked on my K3 if using the K3 Utility. Don't 
ask me why! Was the case right from the beginning. But it works 
trouble-free when doing it the manual way from the radio front panel. 
Try that as an alternative!

It seems to me settling power in the calibration routing just takes 
longer than the Utility will wait while the front panel procedure does 
not have that limit as you're in control of it.

Concerning the other issue (gain difference) just a few ideas: checks 
internal preamp settings, check filter setting (do both RX have 
comparable filter gains set), a.s.o.

73 & gl, Olli 'BQA

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Am 19.06.2015 um 22:50 schrieb Udo Langenohl - DK5YA:
> Just got my KXV3-B as a replacement of the former KXV3-A. Installing 
> complete after 1 hour. Removing the back panel makes things much 
> easier btw. But there's an issue. The 1 mW calibration fails. Thats 
> what the Elecraft Utility says:
>
> Elecraft K3 Utility Revision 1.13.5.9
> OS Version 6.1 Build 7601 Windows 7/Windows Server 2008 R2
> K3 MCU revision 05.26. RS-232 speed 38400 bit/s.
> Starting 1 milliwatt calibration
> Calibrating at 1.900 MHz
> Calibration power settled at " 1.800.00;"
> Elapsed time: 5 seconds
> Tx Gain calibration failed because transmit power did not reach the 
> expected value
> 1 milliwatt calibration failed
>
> Wait, there's more to come. I made a replacement because my guess was: 
> KXV3-A has a damage.
> I use my K3 mostly on VHF with transverters, especially on 144 MHz 
> EME. I'm running a Xpol configuration with 4 antennas on 144 EME with 
> two identical transverters, both in phase and locked by a common 
> external LO with 10 MHz GPS control for Hpol and Vpol.
> HPol RX is fed to the KXV3 XVTR In/Out while Vpol is fed to the AUX RF 
> input. I can listen to both planes simultaneously using diversity 
> receive.
> But something very strange happens when I compare signals on both 
> planes. I have a 144 MHz beacon nearby (just 25 miles away). That 
> beacon is running 8 W on a Hpol antenna. On my Hpol (main RX via KXV3) 
> input this beacon comes up to S9+35 dB while on Vpol (second RX via 
> AUX) it's endstop (S9 +60dB). The beacon is in the line of sight, 
> there's a lot of RF on my location from this beacon.
> It's definetely not from the transverters or from mismatched antennas 
> because when I change inputs and connect the Hpol transverter output 
> to the AUX RF it's suddenly S9 +60 dB too. Both main and sub RX are 
> exactly in the same configuration, filters, bandwidth, NB Off, etc..
> I checked S/N on KXVR3-A (old board) and AUX few days ago with my 
> HP8664A signal generator.
> On 28.200 (TVTR IF) I measured:
> Top values:
> KXV3-A TVTR IN:       -10dBm = S9+25dB
> AUX IN:             -10dBm = S9+60dB (!)
> KXV3-A TVTR IN:          +3dBm = S9+60dB
> Huge difference of at least 13dBm
> Low values:
> KXV3-A TVTR IN:      -134dBm = signal detectable
> KXV3-A TVTR IN:         -140dBm = none
> AUX IN:                -140dBm = clear signal detectable
> Again a difference of at least 6dB or even more.
>
> Now, with the new KXV3-B it's even worse, at least 22 dB difference 
> between the AUX IN and TVTR IN.
>
> What the heck is going wrong here? MAIN RX dead?
>
> 73 Udo, DK5YA
>


From ddillenburger at web.de  Sat Jun 20 06:11:39 2015
From: ddillenburger at web.de (ddillenburger at web.de)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 12:11:39 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] testmail
Message-ID: <trinity-4dfc0968-5a87-4d0e-a84d-f10e9a89aed8-1434795099301@3capp-webde-bs42>


From k0az at centurytel.net  Sat Jun 20 09:11:00 2015
From: k0az at centurytel.net (Mike Sanders)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 08:11:00 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KXV3B install - no problems
In-Reply-To: <55848CC9.9010805@subich.com>
References: <CA+03d8j5hfyy5KFB2RUgL-iNtxXhxtAO5ZTkP+JgjzQ_GgfMpw@mail.gmail.com>
	<55848CC9.9010805@subich.com>
Message-ID: <002401d0ab5a$8db1caf0$a91560d0$@centurytel.net>

So where does one find the KXV3B info/pricing etc. on the Elecraft web site?
I have looked by no luck so far.  73, Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe
Subich, W4TV
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 4:43 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXV3B install - no problems


I also installed the KXV3B in my K3 s/n 1450 yesterday evening with no
problems - other than of my own doing <G>.  The K3 has a KRX3 and two of the
new synthesizers installed so of course the KRX3 needed to be removed to
gain access to the KIO3 and KXV3.

In removing and reinstalling the KRX3 one of TMP cables between the
KREF3 and one of the synthesizers came lose and I failed to notice it.
After buttoning up the K3 and enabling the KVX3B, I had no receive and no TX
power output.  Removing the top of the rig and resetting the bad cable fixed
the problem.  While I was at it I also reseated all of the TMP cables
to/from the KREF3 and both synthesizers.

The KXV3B went in without a hitch - no problems with pin length or board
height.  I inserted the KXV3B pins all the way into J66 then allowed the
board to rotate toward the back panel and adjusted its final height as
appropriate to align the mounting bushings with the screw holes and the rear
(cover) panel.

Preamp 2 appears to be somewhat more sensitive than the PR6/KXV3 that was
replaced.  A quick test with the XG3 and P3 on six meters shows the -108 dBm
signal to be approximately 42 dB above the noise floor which would work out
to an MDS of better than -150 dBm in a 500 Hz bandwidth.  This compares to
approximately -133 dBm with Preamp 1 and -126 dBm with the preamp off.  Not
shabby in the least.


73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-06-19 6:04 AM, Barry Simpson wrote:
> I have just completed installing the KXV3B in my K3 s/n 1397. It 
> already had a KXV3 in it (and a sub receiver which had to be removed 
> and put back) and I am pleased to report that it all went together quite
easily.
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From ddillenburger at web.de  Sat Jun 20 09:28:27 2015
From: ddillenburger at web.de (ddillenburger at web.de)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 15:28:27 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] shipping costs via USPO expr.serv.intern.
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From nf4l at comcast.net  Sat Jun 20 09:37:14 2015
From: nf4l at comcast.net (Mike Reublin NF4L)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 09:37:14 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KXV3B install - no problems
In-Reply-To: <002401d0ab5a$8db1caf0$a91560d0$@centurytel.net>
References: <CA+03d8j5hfyy5KFB2RUgL-iNtxXhxtAO5ZTkP+JgjzQ_GgfMpw@mail.gmail.com>
	<55848CC9.9010805@subich.com>
	<002401d0ab5a$8db1caf0$a91560d0$@centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <517F4549-88BE-4F52-9990-A4C22B1C8558@comcast.net>

Not a lot of info..
http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm#k3
73, Mike NF4L


> On Jun 20, 2015, at 9:11 AM, Mike Sanders <k0az at centurytel.net> wrote:
> 
> So where does one find the KXV3B info/pricing etc. on the Elecraft web site?
> I have looked by no luck so far.  73, Mike


From ray at band.se  Sat Jun 20 10:50:01 2015
From: ray at band.se (Raymund Band)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 16:50:01 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] KXV3B install - no problems
In-Reply-To: <517F4549-88BE-4F52-9990-A4C22B1C8558@comcast.net>
References: <CA+03d8j5hfyy5KFB2RUgL-iNtxXhxtAO5ZTkP+JgjzQ_GgfMpw@mail.gmail.com>	<55848CC9.9010805@subich.com>	<002401d0ab5a$8db1caf0$a91560d0$@centurytel.net>
	<517F4549-88BE-4F52-9990-A4C22B1C8558@comcast.net>
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Look further down the list:

"More K3 and K3S Items   
 KXV3B RX Ant., 2nd Pre-Amp, IF Out and Xverter Interface for earlier K3
radios.       199.95
Note: All K3S Transceivers now include the KXV3B.  "
73, Ray /SM5XLP

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Not a lot of info..
http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm#k3
73, Mike NF4L


> On Jun 20, 2015, at 9:11 AM, Mike Sanders <k0az at centurytel.net> wrote:
> 
> So where does one find the KXV3B info/pricing etc. on the Elecraft web
site?
> I have looked by no luck so far.  73, Mike

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From n0jrn at att.net  Sat Jun 20 11:29:04 2015
From: n0jrn at att.net (Jerry Ford)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 15:29:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: LP Pan adaptor for K2 for sale
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??Good afternoon all:??? 
I have a new in the box LP Pan adaptor for sale.????? It's built for K2.
I built it but it's never been hooked up.?? LED comes on when poweredup and it has all the correct voltages in the right spots.
When I built this adaptor,? the EMU0202? sound card was the preferredcard.?? the 0202 didn't work with Windows 7.?? With no sound card,?? I couldn't calibrate the adaptor.? SO,? it's built and ready.?? Just match itup with your sound card,? follow the directions in the LP Pan manual to calibrate to that card and have fun.? 
IF you looking at one of these,? you know what they cost.?? I'm asking$150.00? shipped
Please contact me off the list.??? Thanks very much:
Jerry???????? N0JRN
   

  

From nw8l at whitemesa.com  Sat Jun 20 12:10:28 2015
From: nw8l at whitemesa.com (Bob NW8L)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 10:10:28 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: LP Pan adaptor for K2 for sale
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I used the EMU0202 with Win7 machines here, using the "beta" driver for 
Win7. There's a download link to this driver on the Telepostinc EMU0202 
page:

http://www.telepostinc.com/emu0202.html

Might be worth a try. I use it successfully on a Win8.1 laptop also.

Bob NW8L

On Sat, 20 Jun 2015, Jerry Ford wrote:

>
> ??Good afternoon all:???
> I have a new in the box LP Pan adaptor for sale.????? It's built for K2.
> I built it but it's never been hooked up.?? LED comes on when poweredup and it has all the correct voltages in the right spots.
> When I built this adaptor,? the EMU0202? sound card was the preferredcard.?? the 0202 didn't work with Windows 7.?? With no sound card,?? I couldn't calibrate the adaptor.? SO,? it's built and ready.?? Just match itup with your sound card,? follow the directions in the LP Pan manual to calibrate to that card and have fun.?
> IF you looking at one of these,? you know what they cost.?? I'm asking$150.00? shipped
> Please contact me off the list.??? Thanks very much:
> Jerry???????? N0JRN
>
>
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From jg.k8wxa at gmail.com  Sat Jun 20 14:54:24 2015
From: jg.k8wxa at gmail.com (Joshua Gould)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 14:54:24 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3: Daisy chaining Macros
Message-ID: <CAHk01bAnKCZCWn+3T7Db5OdMPPOpZwb8V0B6nbFs5mJ=cBjqcA@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings,

I received my foot switch and headset from the mail man a little bit ago
and have built the cables and hooked it all to the KX3 and it all works
like it should.  Now I am working on writing a macro to switch between the
MH3 and the headset/foot switch combo. I have written two macros

MH3: MG030;CP010;MN082;MP004;MN135;MP016;MN255;
HSETFP: MG030;CP013;MN082;MP001;MN255;

What I want to do is assign either macro to PF1 and then use that to toggle
between the two macros.  Looking at the programmers reference I should be
able to slip MN110;SWT27; into the MH3 macro before the MN255; to have it
load Macro 2 (HSETFP) and MN110;SWT19 into HSETFP to reload the MH3 Macro.

Only issue is that this doesn't work...

Any help from a macro guru out there?

72,
Joshua Gould
K8WXA
EM89pn

KX3 # 7480

NAQCC # 7704
OMISS # 9948
4sqrp # 990
FP # 3579

From nick at n6ol.us  Sat Jun 20 14:55:50 2015
From: nick at n6ol.us (Nicklas Johnson)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 11:55:50 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] HFlink scanning and KX3 relays
Message-ID: <CA+ZptL=hhi7VPqWBemmM9v9vCwVWmLr6eMYw+M-WJd25XRgZTQ@mail.gmail.com>

I may have a dumb question here, but I'll ask it anyway.

I'm playing with HFlink which does ALE scanning on a variety of bands.  As
you might imagine, on some rigs, this is a fairly noisy prospect with
relays snapping to select different filters.

I noticed that I'm also getting relay noise from my KX3, but I *thought*
that filters in the KX3 were diode switched.  Am I remembering wrong, or
could I have some setting differences between bands or globally set that
might be causing relays to become involved in band changes?

?   Nick?

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From mteberle at mchsi.com  Sat Jun 20 15:23:06 2015
From: mteberle at mchsi.com (Michael Eberle)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 14:23:06 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] 'Birdies' on 6M when adjusting filters
Message-ID: <5585BD9A.8030500@mchsi.com>

A few days ago I installed the new KSYN3A modules in my K3 along with 
the KXV3B modules.  I am running FW Rev 5.26.  I was at 50.267 running 
JT65 with no problems and the BW was at 2.8 KHz - the low cut at 0.1 and 
the high at 2.9.  When I adjusted the low end up to 0.3 a 'birdie' all 
of a sudden appeared toward the low end of the audio pass band along 
with a corresponding spike on the P3.  As I adjust the low cut up, each 
time the spike jumps further up the audio pass band.  As I adjust the 
cut above 0.8 the spike keeps moving up out of the audio pass band.  I 
can see it moving up the spectrum on the P3.

With the VFO at 50.276 and the low cut at 2 KHz the spike appears at 
about 50.285 as measured on the P3.

Not sure if it has anything to do with the new synth modules or the 
KXV3B.  I turned the preamp off but it makes no difference except for 
the background noise.  I tried the same thing on 10 and 12 meters but it 
does not happen on those bands.

Thanks,
Mike - KI0HA

From brian.waterworth at gmail.com  Sat Jun 20 15:29:56 2015
From: brian.waterworth at gmail.com (Brian Waterworth)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 15:29:56 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3: Daisy chaining Macros
In-Reply-To: <CAHk01bAnKCZCWn+3T7Db5OdMPPOpZwb8V0B6nbFs5mJ=cBjqcA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAM34cKfToGMQWHS-77bjJkHkzBBHQBu8BKWH-A2s8gi658pGyg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Joshua

You have to assign the alternate macro to the pf1 key at the end of the
first macro.

Add to the end of Macro 1: MN110;SWT27;SWH18;MN255;
Add to the end of Macro 2: MN110;SWT19;SWH18;MN255;

MN is to get into the menus.  110 is for the Macro settings.  Swt is to tap
the 2 key (27) (or the 1 key (19)), then hold the PF1 key (SWH18).  Lastly,
exit the menu (mn255).

Regards
Brian
VE3IBW

From jg.k8wxa at gmail.com  Sat Jun 20 15:33:19 2015
From: jg.k8wxa at gmail.com (Joshua Gould, K8WXA)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 15:33:19 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3: Daisy chaining Macros
In-Reply-To: <CAM34cKfToGMQWHS-77bjJkHkzBBHQBu8BKWH-A2s8gi658pGyg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHk01bAnKCZCWn+3T7Db5OdMPPOpZwb8V0B6nbFs5mJ=cBjqcA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAM34cKfToGMQWHS-77bjJkHkzBBHQBu8BKWH-A2s8gi658pGyg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <45864EFB-7B0D-43AB-99E4-CBF6F17A7EE5@gmail.com>

That was the missing piece!  I figured it was something simple. 

Thank you!

72,
Joshua Gould
K8WXA
EM89pn

KX3# 7480
NAQCC # 7704
OMISS # 9948
4SQRP # 990
FP # 3579

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> On Jun 20, 2015, at 15:29, Brian Waterworth <brian.waterworth at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Joshua
> 
> You have to assign the alternate macro to the pf1 key at the end of the first macro.
> 
> Add to the end of Macro 1: MN110;SWT27;SWH18;MN255;
> Add to the end of Macro 2: MN110;SWT19;SWH18;MN255;
> 
> MN is to get into the menus.  110 is for the Macro settings.  Swt is to tap the 2 key (27) (or the 1 key (19)), then hold the PF1 key (SWH18).  Lastly, exit the menu (mn255).
> 
> Regards
> Brian
> VE3IBW

From n6kr at elecraft.com  Sat Jun 20 16:54:56 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 13:54:56 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] 'Birdies' on 6M when adjusting filters
In-Reply-To: <5585BD9A.8030500@mchsi.com>
References: <5585BD9A.8030500@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <C4D6F521-3AE9-41C2-BDAC-0D918AA94DF3@elecraft.com>

Hi Mike,

Virtually all high-level signal sources (like the synth in a superhet receiver) have a few birdies, and it's possible you've found one. Typically they are of the "fast-tuning" variety, indicating they're related to a high-order harmonic of the VFO frequency. 

We painstakingly swept all ham bands using the KSYN3A to make sure that the few birdies present were all very low in amplitude, so they'd be masked by band noise. However, it isn't practical to sweep all bands with all filter bandwidths. 

Fortunately we provided a firmware-based tool for just this occasion: the CONFIG:SIG RMV menu entry. Using this menu entry you can "map out" most fast-tuning birdies on a per-band, per-mode, per-filter-setting basis. 

There are instructions for SIG RMV in the K3 owner's manual. We recently improved the instructions when we wrote the K3S owner's manual, so you might want to use those instructions instead.

Let me know if this helps.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



On Jun 20, 2015, at 12:23 PM, Michael Eberle <mteberle at mchsi.com> wrote:

> A few days ago I installed the new KSYN3A modules in my K3 along with the KXV3B modules.  I am running FW Rev 5.26.  I was at 50.267 running JT65 with no problems and the BW was at 2.8 KHz - the low cut at 0.1 and the high at 2.9.  When I adjusted the low end up to 0.3 a 'birdie' all of a sudden appeared toward the low end of the audio pass band along with a corresponding spike on the P3.  As I adjust the low cut up, each time the spike jumps further up the audio pass band.  As I adjust the cut above 0.8 the spike keeps moving up out of the audio pass band.  I can see it moving up the spectrum on the P3.
> 
> With the VFO at 50.276 and the low cut at 2 KHz the spike appears at about 50.285 as measured on the P3.
> 
> Not sure if it has anything to do with the new synth modules or the KXV3B.  I turned the preamp off but it makes no difference except for the background noise.  I tried the same thing on 10 and 12 meters but it does not happen on those bands.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike - KI0HA
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Sat Jun 20 16:59:16 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 13:59:16 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KXV3B install - no problems
In-Reply-To: <55847FBB.6020701@dk5ya.de>
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Udo,

I just tested a KXV3B fresh off the production line. Results: 1.0 mW TX GAIN cal completed without error, and the XVTR IN jack is within half a dB of both the RX ANT IN jack and the main antenna jacks (ANT1/ANT2). 

I suspect that your KXV3B was damaged in transit, etc., but we won't know until we can get a look at it. 

Meanwhile, please contact the distributor so we can arrange for an immediate replacement. Our apologies for the inconvenience.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Jun 19, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Udo Langenohl - DK5YA <dk5ya at dk5ya.de> wrote:

> Just got my KXV3-B as a replacement of the former KXV3-A. Installing complete after 1 hour. Removing the back panel makes things much easier btw. But there's an issue. The 1 mW calibration fails. Thats what the Elecraft Utility says:
> 
> Elecraft K3 Utility Revision 1.13.5.9
> OS Version 6.1 Build 7601 Windows 7/Windows Server 2008 R2
> K3 MCU revision 05.26. RS-232 speed 38400 bit/s.
> Starting 1 milliwatt calibration
> Calibrating at 1.900 MHz
> Calibration power settled at " 1.800.00;"
> Elapsed time: 5 seconds
> Tx Gain calibration failed because transmit power did not reach the expected value
> 1 milliwatt calibration failed
> 
> Wait, there's more to come. I made a replacement because my guess was: KXV3-A has a damage.
> I use my K3 mostly on VHF with transverters, especially on 144 MHz EME. I'm running a Xpol configuration with 4 antennas on 144 EME with two identical transverters, both in phase and locked by a common external LO with 10 MHz GPS control for Hpol and Vpol.
> HPol RX is fed to the KXV3 XVTR In/Out while Vpol is fed to the AUX RF input. I can listen to both planes simultaneously using diversity receive.
> But something very strange happens when I compare signals on both planes. I have a 144 MHz beacon nearby (just 25 miles away). That beacon is running 8 W on a Hpol antenna. On my Hpol (main RX via KXV3) input this beacon comes up to S9+35 dB while on Vpol (second RX via AUX) it's endstop (S9 +60dB). The beacon is in the line of sight, there's a lot of RF on my location from this beacon.
> It's definetely not from the transverters or from mismatched antennas because when I change inputs and connect the Hpol transverter output to the AUX RF it's suddenly S9 +60 dB too. Both main and sub RX are exactly in the same configuration, filters, bandwidth, NB Off, etc..
> I checked S/N on KXVR3-A (old board) and AUX few days ago with my HP8664A signal generator.
> On 28.200 (TVTR IF) I measured:
> Top values:
> KXV3-A TVTR IN:   	-10dBm = S9+25dB
> AUX IN:     		-10dBm = S9+60dB (!)
> KXV3-A TVTR IN:      	+3dBm = S9+60dB
> Huge difference of 13dBm
> Low values:
> KXV3-A TVTR IN:  	-134dBm = signal detectable
> KXV3-A TVTR IN:     	-140dBm = none
> AUX IN:        		-140dBm = signal detectable
> Again a difference of at least 6dB or more.
> 
> Now, with the new KXV3-B it's even worse, at least 22 dB difference between the AUX IN and TVTR IN.
> 
> What the heck is going wrong here? MAIN RX dead?
> 
> 73 Udo, DK5YA
> 
> 
> Am 19.06.2015 um 12:04 schrieb Barry Simpson:
>> I have just completed installing the KXV3B in my K3 s/n 1397. It already
>> had a KXV3 in it (and a sub receiver which had to be removed and put back)
>> and I am pleased to report that it all went together quite easily.
>> 
>> I updated the firmware to the required beta version and the new preamp 2
>> seems to work perfectly although no signals yet heard on 6/10/12m.
>> 
>> I was initially troubled by the pre flashing on the display and thought
>> there was some fault. However, I assume that it is an indicator that Pre 2
>> is turned on. Please can you remove that feature as I find it mildly
>> irritating.
>> 
>> Mine is an early serial number K3 that I built around August/September 2008
>> and until installing the KXV3B today, I had not even taken the top cover
>> off for several years. It was a pleasant surprise to find the interior of
>> the K3 looking absolutely pristine and dust free, other than for a very
>> light coating on the PA heat sink, which I cleaned off. I also took the
>> opportunity of replacing the battery (the original) although the voltage
>> still showed 2.97 after all that time when I tested it.
>> 
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> Barry Simpson  VK2BJ
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From kurtt at pinrod.com  Sat Jun 20 21:43:03 2015
From: kurtt at pinrod.com (Kurt Pawlikowski)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 20:43:03 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 And The "Dominant" Knob
Message-ID: <558616A7.2050601@pinrod.com>

Hi,

     Looking toward Field Day... Is there a way to use the KX3 so that 
the transmit frequency is "locked," and the receive frequency can be 
adjusted by the larger knob? I know I can lock the frequency and use  
RIT, but then I have to tune with the smaller knob. Also, should it 
accidentally be set to OFS, I am then adjusting the transmit frequency.

     Any thoughts?

     Thanks!

     kurtt

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From: km4ik.ian at gmail.com (Ian - Ham)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 21:54:06 -0400
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From kc6cnn at gmail.com  Sat Jun 20 22:53:20 2015
From: kc6cnn at gmail.com (KC6CNN)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 19:53:20 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Spot issue
Message-ID: <1434855200261-7604141.post@n2.nabble.com>

Has anyone notice any issues with the Spot button on the K3. I am running the
newest firmware and just received my radio back from Elecraft. When I am on
CW and I hear a signal close by I push the spot button and spot shows up on
the B area, but the radio does not change frequencies. It just sits there
until the spot goes away and the no changes to the frequency or does not
zero beat the received signal. 
Any suggestions or thoughts?
Thanks
Gerald KC6CNN




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From kc6cnn at gmail.com  Sun Jun 21 00:54:28 2015
From: kc6cnn at gmail.com (KC6CNN)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 21:54:28 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Reports of intermit bad audio
Message-ID: <1434862468176-7604142.post@n2.nabble.com>

I just got my radio back from Elecraft. They changed a diode and put the new
sync board in it. It was shipped back and tonight was the first time I had a
chance to get on the air. I meet every weekend with a few guys on 80 meters.
One of the guys has a flex radio that he watches everyones audio. I started
to say hello and everyone said my audio was not good. I went in and checked
all of my settings and found that my eq setting were not the same. I changed
them and was told that I still sounded bad. The flex guy said I had real bad
spikes and raspy audio. I checked everything and all connectors and did not
find anything. I continued to talk for a while and without touching anything
except my heil button to talk all of a sudden the audio went to great audio.
Everyone was complementing me on my audio again. After about an hour my
audio went from great to bad again. Nothing had been changed. I even
switched antennas and it would go from bad to good and just switch when ever
it felt like it. I don't know what is going on. I have always had great
audio. Help please. 
Thanks
Gerald Manthey KC6CNN  K3 serial # 6294




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From kc6cnn at gmail.com  Sun Jun 21 04:04:43 2015
From: kc6cnn at gmail.com (KC6CNN)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 01:04:43 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Spot issue
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Thanks for all the direct responses. Problem was taken care of and was my
fault for having my settings wrong. Thanks again and hope that my other tx
audio problem and be solved that fast. 
Thanks again. 
Gerald




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From mrudolph at therabbi.com  Sun Jun 21 07:45:15 2015
From: mrudolph at therabbi.com (Michael Rudolph)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 07:45:15 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 rig control using fldigi
Message-ID: <0ad901d0ac17$bdb00880$39101980$@therabbi.com>

I am a new user of the KX3.  I connected the KX3's usb port directly to my
computer's usb, and also connected the KX3's mic and phone ports to a
SignaLink-USB which, in turn, was connected to a second usb port of my
computer.  My computer has fldigi on it.

 

I am able to receive and transmit psk31 and cw, but the fldigi does not
control the frequency of the KX3.  When I first open fldigi, it's frequency
display reads the same frequency as the KX3, but if I change the frequency
of either the KX3 or fldigi, it does not affect the other.

 

Can anyone tell me if I can control the KX3's frequency with fldigi and, if
so, how?

 

Michael

N3IRT


From brian at brianlinn.com  Sun Jun 21 08:44:45 2015
From: brian at brianlinn.com (Brian Linn)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 07:44:45 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - TX Gain Calibration Issue
Message-ID: <002801d0ac20$0f3e3390$2dba9ab0$@com>

All:

 

When attempting to run the TX Gain Calibration with the latest K3 utility,
post installing the latest firmware, the message back is that the KPA3 and
PA PWR settings are incorrect and must be set a certain way in order for it
to run. The problem is that the settings are exactly as the message states
they should be. (I ended up running the calibration manually.)

 

Has anyone seen this oddity?

 

Brian KD0HII

 


From dave at onitap.com  Sun Jun 21 09:43:25 2015
From: dave at onitap.com (David Patino)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 13:43:25 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 rig control using fldigi
In-Reply-To: <0ad901d0ac17$bdb00880$39101980$@therabbi.com>
References: <0ad901d0ac17$bdb00880$39101980$@therabbi.com>
Message-ID: <1434894175907.77818@onitap.com>

Hey Michael,

Yes Fldigi can control the KX3.

In Fldigi go to Configure, Rig Control.
Click on the Hamlib tab
In the Rig: drop down, select Elecraft K3/KX3 (Beta)
then in Device: select the port that is connected to the KX3 (not the signalink)
Make sure the baud rate is set correctly. If you're not sure what it is you can launch the Elecraft utility first and it will auto-detect the baud rate.
Click the 'Initialize' button, and then save and close. Should be good to go.

-Dave
N9PBJ
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From: Elecraft <elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Michael Rudolph <mrudolph at therabbi.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 6:45 AM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 rig control using fldigi

I am a new user of the KX3.  I connected the KX3's usb port directly to my
computer's usb, and also connected the KX3's mic and phone ports to a
SignaLink-USB which, in turn, was connected to a second usb port of my
computer.  My computer has fldigi on it.



I am able to receive and transmit psk31 and cw, but the fldigi does not
control the frequency of the KX3.  When I first open fldigi, it's frequency
display reads the same frequency as the KX3, but if I change the frequency
of either the KX3 or fldigi, it does not affect the other.



Can anyone tell me if I can control the KX3's frequency with fldigi and, if
so, how?



Michael

N3IRT

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From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Sun Jun 21 11:16:47 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Ray W2RS via Elecraft)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 11:16:47 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 problem
Message-ID: <d5260.1f5c9d01.42b82f5f@aol.com>

My KPA500 amplifi_es_ (file://\\es)  normally but seems to  have a 
switching problem on receive.  The receiver (I've tried several)  works fine when 
the amp is turned off or when it is switched to STBY, but  when I switch the 
KPA500 to OPER the receiver goes nearly dead as if there is no  antenna 
connected to it.  I tried resetting the KPA500 to factory menu  settings but no 
change.  There is full output on transmit.
 
The KPA500 is still under warranty.  Is this a settings problem or  should 
I send it back?
 
73 Ray W2RS
 

From ed at w0yk.com  Sun Jun 21 11:57:55 2015
From: ed at w0yk.com (Ed Muns)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 08:57:55 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 problem
In-Reply-To: <d5260.1f5c9d01.42b82f5f@aol.com>
References: <d5260.1f5c9d01.42b82f5f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <162F4F755A354D2BAF92B550763B7DBC@h81420t>

Send it back for the TR switch update.  This is a known problem with early
KPA500s and there is an easy factory fix.

Ed W0YK

_________________________________________

Ray W2RS wrote:

My KPA500 amplifi_es_ (file://\\es)  normally but seems to  have a 
switching problem on receive.  The receiver (I've tried several)  works fine
when 
the amp is turned off or when it is switched to STBY, but  when I switch the

KPA500 to OPER the receiver goes nearly dead as if there is no  antenna 
connected to it.  I tried resetting the KPA500 to factory menu  settings but
no 
change.  There is full output on transmit.
 
The KPA500 is still under warranty.  Is this a settings problem or  should 
I send it back?


From kevinr at coho.net  Sun Jun 21 12:16:39 2015
From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr at coho.net)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 09:16:39 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Message-ID: <5586E367.9090703@coho.net>

Good Morning,
The sun has ceased its movement northward for the year; Happy Solstice.  
The sun has also been active this week with a few sessions of noisy 
contacts.  The large sun spot group facing us could send a CME our way.  
However, with all the ions floating about the bands are fairly good.

Please join us this afternoon and evening.

14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday)
  7045 kHz at 0100z Monday (6 PM PDT Sunday)

     73,
         Kevin. KD5ONS
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From ddillenburger at web.de  Sun Jun 21 12:31:43 2015
From: ddillenburger at web.de (ddillenburger at web.de)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 18:31:43 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA 500 problem
Message-ID: <trinity-caf595db-13bc-469b-b5e1-ff7ecb8c453a-1434904303296@3capp-webde-bs41>


From jackbrindle at me.com  Sun Jun 21 12:37:54 2015
From: jackbrindle at me.com (Jack Brindle)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 09:37:54 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 problem
In-Reply-To: <d5260.1f5c9d01.42b82f5f@aol.com>
References: <d5260.1f5c9d01.42b82f5f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <43A51F50-EC3E-4FB0-BF74-BCEE22A85887@me.com>

When you switch to OPER, is there an asterisk on the left side of the LCD? This would indicate that the PTT line is engaged or shorted. fix that connection and things should return to normal.
There are several things that could be causing the trouble you see. Work through them with Elecraft customer support and you may avoid shipping the amp back.

- Jack Brindle, W6FB

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 21, 2015, at 8:16 AM, Ray W2RS via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> My KPA500 amplifi_es_ (file://\\es)  normally but seems to  have a 
> switching problem on receive.  The receiver (I've tried several)  works fine when 
> the amp is turned off or when it is switched to STBY, but  when I switch the 
> KPA500 to OPER the receiver goes nearly dead as if there is no  antenna 
> connected to it.  I tried resetting the KPA500 to factory menu  settings but no 
> change.  There is full output on transmit.
> 
> The KPA500 is still under warranty.  Is this a settings problem or  should 
> I send it back?
> 
> 73 Ray W2RS
> 
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From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Sun Jun 21 13:04:39 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Ray W2RS via Elecraft)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 13:04:39 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 problem
Message-ID: <d6c5d.19364fb7.42b848a7@aol.com>


Hi Jack,
 
No asterisk.
 
Tnx, Ray W2RS
 
 
In a message dated 6/21/2015 9:37:57 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
jackbrindle at me.com writes:

When you  switch to OPER, is there an asterisk on the left side of the LCD? 
This would  indicate that the PTT line is engaged or shorted. fix that 
connection and  things should return to normal.
There are several things that could be  causing the trouble you see. Work 
through them with Elecraft customer support  and you may avoid shipping the 
amp back.

- Jack Brindle,  W6FB

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 21, 2015, at 8:16 AM, Ray  W2RS via Elecraft 
<elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> My  KPA500 amplifi_es_ (file://\\es)  normally but seems to  have a  
> switching problem on receive.  The receiver (I've tried  several)  works 
fine when 
> the amp is turned off or when it is  switched to STBY, but  when I switch 
the 
> KPA500 to OPER the  receiver goes nearly dead as if there is no  antenna 
> connected  to it.  I tried resetting the KPA500 to factory menu  settings 
but  no 
> change.  There is full output on transmit.
> 
>  The KPA500 is still under warranty.  Is this a settings problem or   
should 
> I send it back?
> 
> 73 Ray W2RS
> 
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Sun Jun 21 13:26:46 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 10:26:46 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - TX Gain Calibration Issue
In-Reply-To: <002801d0ac20$0f3e3390$2dba9ab0$@com>
References: <002801d0ac20$0f3e3390$2dba9ab0$@com>
Message-ID: <95F00E71-0495-49E1-B6CC-995C80B3C933@elecraft.com>

Hi Brian,

We'll look into this right away. I've copied your message to our PC software applications engineer.

Wayne
N6KR


On Jun 21, 2015, at 5:44 AM, "Brian Linn" <brian at brianlinn.com> wrote:

> All:
> 
> 
> 
> When attempting to run the TX Gain Calibration with the latest K3 utility,
> post installing the latest firmware, the message back is that the KPA3 and
> PA PWR settings are incorrect and must be set a certain way in order for it
> to run. The problem is that the settings are exactly as the message states
> they should be. (I ended up running the calibration manually.)
> 
> 
> 
> Has anyone seen this oddity?
> 
> 
> 
> Brian KD0HII
> 
> 
> 
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From phils at riousa.com  Sun Jun 21 13:36:28 2015
From: phils at riousa.com (Phil Shepard)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 10:36:28 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] SSB net needs a new NCS
Message-ID: <8605E64D-BDE7-43AD-AFFE-469FB5304B7C@riousa.com>

I have been the NCS for the Sunday Elecraft SSB net for six and a half years, and I have enjoyed it thoroughly.  However, I have not been well this spring.  My health has been a complex puzzle. but it looks like a diagnosis is at hand.  Unfortunately, I have Parkinson?s disease.

It the near time, operating the net is too taxing for me.  I have started medication therapy, so down the road, who knows.  But I think it is time for someone else to give it a go!  All the best to the great Elecraft gang.  You are like friends to me.  Good luck to whoever picks up the net.  I?ll still be around.  Listen for my signal.

73,
Phil, NS7P

From alsopb at nc.rr.com  Sun Jun 21 13:41:09 2015
From: alsopb at nc.rr.com (brian)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 17:41:09 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S config file
Message-ID: <5586F735.3020308@nc.rr.com>

Can one use a config file from a K3 as a starting point in configuring a 
K3s?   Years of tinkering with a K3 resulted in a configuration I 
wouldn't want to loose.

73 de Brian/K3KO

From n6kr at elecraft.com  Sun Jun 21 14:56:04 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 11:56:04 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S config file
In-Reply-To: <5586F735.3020308@nc.rr.com>
References: <5586F735.3020308@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <67AC1281-C448-4B02-B123-5E3E44382D41@elecraft.com>

Yes. However, on restore of the configuration file to the K3S, K3 Utility will warn you that you're using a config file from a rig with a different serial number. You'll also probably need to tweak a few settings after the restore, since the K3S will have some new hardware.

Wayne
N6KR


On Jun 21, 2015, at 10:41 AM, brian <alsopb at nc.rr.com> wrote:

> Can one use a config file from a K3 as a starting point in configuring a K3s?   Years of tinkering with a K3 resulted in a configuration I wouldn't want to loose.
> 
> 73 de Brian/K3KO
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From hsherriff at reagan.com  Sun Jun 21 14:55:34 2015
From: hsherriff at reagan.com (hsherriff)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:55:34 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S config file
Message-ID: <y53g79t3282kp7iuidvbefg6.1434912934060@email.android.com>


    
Brian,A configuration file can only be sent to the same radio. Part of the file is the radio serial number. ?The only way I know to do what you want is to manually set it up, or possibly use a third party software program. ?Win4K3 software may be your solution. ?You should be able to save the K3 configuration (with only a few items that can't be saved) then transfer the file to the K3S
Harlan?NC3C?


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-------- Original message --------
From: brian <alsopb at nc.rr.com> 
Date: 06/21/2015  1:41 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S config file 

Can one use a config file from a K3 as a starting point in configuring a 
K3s??? Years of tinkering with a K3 resulted in a configuration I 
wouldn't want to loose.

73 de Brian/K3KO
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From ac2ev at frontier.com  Sun Jun 21 15:20:32 2015
From: ac2ev at frontier.com (Frontier ac2ev)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 15:20:32 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 freq goes wonky
Message-ID: <A91C2919-B59A-4C64-A2A8-EDC19DE630C9@frontier.com>

Yeah that's a great subject line. So this weekend I was trying to operate kids day at 14.280MHZ I was told that I was actually at 14.275.01 
I noticed on the P3 that between 14.272 and 14.285 the VFO lost control. The P3 would start drifting with the K3 and it would smear across the screen. I wouldn't be able to hear anyone on frequency. If I tuned up and down they continued to sound like they were off frequency. This only happens between 14.272 and 14.285

Going to try resetting and reloading firmware but not sure that's going help. Any ideas?



From Gary at ka1j.com  Sun Jun 21 16:27:30 2015
From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:27:30 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Announcerment
In-Reply-To: <068a01d0abc5$28437180$78ca5480$@gmail.com>
References: <068a01d0abc5$28437180$78ca5480$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55871E32.1582.B82DE0B@Gary.ka1j.com>

I missed it. Was looking at 20:00Z & 
o'course; nada. 

I need to be more on the ball...

Happy Father's Day!

73,

Gary KA1J

> The weekly Elecraft SSB Net takes place Sunday, June 21, at 1800 UTC on
> 14.3035 +/-. Net control will be Ian, KM4IK, located in Roswell, GA (Metro
> Atlanta area).  See everyone on the net.
> 
>  
> 
> Happy Father's Day to all the dads out there!
> 
>  
> 
> 73 de,
> 
>  
> 
> --Ian
> 
> Ian Kahn, KM4IK
> Roswell, GA  EM74ua
> km4ik.ian at gmail.com <mailto:km4ik.ian at gmail.com> 
> 
> 10-10 #74624, North Georgia Chapter #2038
> 
> PODXS 070 #1962
> K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468


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From jackbrindle at me.com  Sun Jun 21 17:33:52 2015
From: jackbrindle at me.com (Jack Brindle)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:33:52 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 problem
In-Reply-To: <d6c5d.19364fb7.42b848a7@aol.com>
References: <d6c5d.19364fb7.42b848a7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0B2CD929-61FE-4210-961A-E5837AC07F91@me.com>

Call Customer Support tomorrow morning. They may have more suggestions for you. Worst case, you will need an RMA from them, but I really hope they can have you try something that I?m not thinking of at the moment to make it work.

- Jack B, W6FB


> On Jun 21, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Ray W2RS via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Jack,
> 
> No asterisk.
> 
> Tnx, Ray W2RS
> 
> 
> In a message dated 6/21/2015 9:37:57 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
> jackbrindle at me.com writes:
> 
> When you  switch to OPER, is there an asterisk on the left side of the LCD? 
> This would  indicate that the PTT line is engaged or shorted. fix that 
> connection and  things should return to normal.
> There are several things that could be  causing the trouble you see. Work 
> through them with Elecraft customer support  and you may avoid shipping the 
> amp back.
> 
> - Jack Brindle,  W6FB
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2015, at 8:16 AM, Ray  W2RS via Elecraft 
> <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>> 
>> My  KPA500 amplifi_es_ (file://\\es)  normally but seems to  have a  
>> switching problem on receive.  The receiver (I've tried  several)  works 
> fine when 
>> the amp is turned off or when it is  switched to STBY, but  when I switch 
> the 
>> KPA500 to OPER the  receiver goes nearly dead as if there is no  antenna 
>> connected  to it.  I tried resetting the KPA500 to factory menu  settings 
> but  no 
>> change.  There is full output on transmit.
>> 
>> The KPA500 is still under warranty.  Is this a settings problem or   
> should 
>> I send it back?
>> 
>> 73 Ray W2RS
>> 
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From k6dgw at foothill.net  Sun Jun 21 18:34:54 2015
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 15:34:54 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 freq goes wonky
In-Reply-To: <A91C2919-B59A-4C64-A2A8-EDC19DE630C9@frontier.com>
References: <A91C2919-B59A-4C64-A2A8-EDC19DE630C9@frontier.com>
Message-ID: <55873C0E.9090506@foothill.net>

No ideas, however on the outside chance that it might be related ...

running N1MM+ in contests, every now and then, my K3 goes into a 
frequency scan, sometimes up, sometimes down.  It doesn't seem to matter 
where I was when it starts.  It has never done that without N1MM running 
so I'm guessing N1MM is sending it some commands, but I don't know that 
is isn't in the K3.  My casual operation comes in much shorter periods 
than contests, maybe if I got into a 10 hour rag chew it would do it. :-)

Hope you can find it.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org

On 6/21/2015 12:20 PM, Frontier ac2ev wrote:
> Yeah that's a great subject line. So this weekend I was trying to
> operate kids day at 14.280MHZ I was told that I was actually at
> 14.275.01 I noticed on the P3 that between 14.272 and 14.285 the VFO
> lost control. The P3 would start drifting with the K3 and it would
> smear across the screen. I wouldn't be able to hear anyone on
> frequency. If I tuned up and down they continued to sound like they
> were off frequency. This only happens between 14.272 and 14.285
>
> Going to try resetting and reloading firmware but not sure that's
> going help. Any ideas?

From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Sun Jun 21 19:11:48 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 19:11:48 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 freq goes wonky
In-Reply-To: <A91C2919-B59A-4C64-A2A8-EDC19DE630C9@frontier.com>
References: <A91C2919-B59A-4C64-A2A8-EDC19DE630C9@frontier.com>
Message-ID: <558744B4.5010307@embarqmail.com>

Old synth boards or new?

First thing I would suggest is to turn the manual to the Calibration 
Procedures and if you have the old synthesizers, do the Synthesizer 
Calibration, followed by the Reference Oscillator calibration.  If you 
have the new synths, then skip directly to the Reference Oscillator 
calibration (the new synths do not need calibration).

I am not certain that will fix it, but it certainly can do no harm. 
Periodically checking those calibrations is good for the "annual 
physical" of your K3.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/21/2015 3:20 PM, Frontier ac2ev wrote:
> Yeah that's a great subject line. So this weekend I was trying to operate kids day at 14.280MHZ I was told that I was actually at 14.275.01
> I noticed on the P3 that between 14.272 and 14.285 the VFO lost control. The P3 would start drifting with the K3 and it would smear across the screen. I wouldn't be able to hear anyone on frequency. If I tuned up and down they continued to sound like they were off frequency. This only happens between 14.272 and 14.285
>
> Going to try resetting and reloading firmware but not sure that's going help. Any ideas?
>


From bill at wjschmidt.com  Sun Jun 21 19:34:56 2015
From: bill at wjschmidt.com (Dr. William J. Schmidt, II)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 19:34:56 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 freq goes wonky
In-Reply-To: <55873C0E.9090506@foothill.net>
References: <A91C2919-B59A-4C64-A2A8-EDC19DE630C9@frontier.com>
	<55873C0E.9090506@foothill.net>
Message-ID: <E3B807C9-F840-4765-8206-C5757BC363AC@wjschmidt.com>

Interesting. Ive had a similar issue with N1MM and my K3. Every once in a while it will add 0.2 KC to the main frequency. Its always been + and I've not been able to figure out why it happens. 


Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ
 
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email:  bill at wjschmidt.com
 

> On Jun 21, 2015, at 6:34 PM, Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:
> 
> No ideas, however on the outside chance that it might be related ...
> 
> running N1MM+ in contests, every now and then, my K3 goes into a frequency scan, sometimes up, sometimes down.  It doesn't seem to matter where I was when it starts.  It has never done that without N1MM running so I'm guessing N1MM is sending it some commands, but I don't know that is isn't in the K3.  My casual operation comes in much shorter periods than contests, maybe if I got into a 10 hour rag chew it would do it. :-)
> 
> Hope you can find it.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
> - www.cqp.org
> 
>> On 6/21/2015 12:20 PM, Frontier ac2ev wrote:
>> Yeah that's a great subject line. So this weekend I was trying to
>> operate kids day at 14.280MHZ I was told that I was actually at
>> 14.275.01 I noticed on the P3 that between 14.272 and 14.285 the VFO
>> lost control. The P3 would start drifting with the K3 and it would
>> smear across the screen. I wouldn't be able to hear anyone on
>> frequency. If I tuned up and down they continued to sound like they
>> were off frequency. This only happens between 14.272 and 14.285
>> 
>> Going to try resetting and reloading firmware but not sure that's
>> going help. Any ideas?
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From edauer at law.du.edu  Sun Jun 21 19:40:39 2015
From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 23:40:39 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Audio Protection Mod Kit
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15089.1434894214.22967.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <D1ACA6CD.106AE%edauer@law.du.edu>

K3AUDPROTMDKT free to a good home.  Cleaning off shelves and found it
again - I ordered it but my K3 already had the protection installed.  If
you can actually use it, contact me offline (edauer at law.du.edu) - first
reply wins.

Ted, KN1CBR


From mundschenk55 at msn.com  Sun Jun 21 20:59:27 2015
From: mundschenk55 at msn.com (Russ)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 20:59:27 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KSYN3A + KSYN3
Message-ID: <BAY175-W45F03DF12E413DC3655080CFA10@phx.gbl>

All:

For those of you who don't read instructions like me - remember to download and install the latest K3 utility before uploading the new 5.14 firmware (or above) - otherwise you may get an FPF load error.

Question - if I decide to install a KRX3 later, can I reuse the old KSYN3 for it - can the old KSYN3 and the new KSYN3A coexist in the same box?  OK - call me cheap / thrifty / cost effective or just stupid if you want  :>}

Thanks, Russ KD4JO
 		 	   		  

From mteberle at mchsi.com  Sun Jun 21 21:13:01 2015
From: mteberle at mchsi.com (Michael Eberle)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 20:13:01 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KSYN3A + KSYN3
In-Reply-To: <BAY175-W45F03DF12E413DC3655080CFA10@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY175-W45F03DF12E413DC3655080CFA10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5587611D.4070305@mchsi.com>

Per the KSYN3A Installation instructions:

"You cannot have a new KSYN3A synthesizer and the original KSYN3 in the 
same K3!  If you have the KRX3 sub receiver installed, you must install 
two KSYN3A synthesizers."

Mike
KI0HA

On 6/21/2015 7:59 PM, Russ wrote:
> All:
>
> For those of you who don't read instructions like me - remember to download and install the latest K3 utility before uploading the new 5.14 firmware (or above) - otherwise you may get an FPF load error.
>
> Question - if I decide to install a KRX3 later, can I reuse the old KSYN3 for it - can the old KSYN3 and the new KSYN3A coexist in the same box?  OK - call me cheap / thrifty / cost effective or just stupid if you want  :>}
>
> Thanks, Russ KD4JO
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From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Sun Jun 21 21:18:38 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 21:18:38 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KSYN3A + KSYN3
In-Reply-To: <BAY175-W45F03DF12E413DC3655080CFA10@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY175-W45F03DF12E413DC3655080CFA10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5587626E.30501@embarqmail.com>

Russ,

If you install the KSYN3A for the main and then add the KRX3, you must 
have the KSYN3A for the sub as well.
You cannot mix the synthesizers - they must both be the same.

Cheap/thrifty/cost effective does not matter, they both need to be the same.

73,
Don W3FPR

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/21/2015 8:59 PM, Russ wrote:
> All:
>
> For those of you who don't read instructions like me - remember to download and install the latest K3 utility before uploading the new 5.14 firmware (or above) - otherwise you may get an FPF load error.
>
> Question - if I decide to install a KRX3 later, can I reuse the old KSYN3 for it - can the old KSYN3 and the new KSYN3A coexist in the same box?  OK - call me cheap / thrifty / cost effective or just stupid if you want  :>}
>


From jonlevy73 at usa.net  Sun Jun 21 21:48:21 2015
From: jonlevy73 at usa.net (jonlevy73)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 18:48:21 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Frequency Limits by license?
Message-ID: <1434937701740-7604168.post@n2.nabble.com>

Can the KX3 be programmed so the operator be limited by their license
privileges?


KH6AUX



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From k9qjs at icloud.com  Sun Jun 21 22:45:24 2015
From: k9qjs at icloud.com (Jim Hooper)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 19:45:24 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500: Won't power on unless I remove the DC power
	cable and reinsert it ...
Message-ID: <21FD0D89-C22D-417F-9544-233E2E846E68@icloud.com>

I turn my KAT500 off, and then turn it on first before powering the rest of my K-Line on. 

But two or three times now the following has happened:  when pressing the ON button for the KAT500, nothing happened.   I wiggled the power cable in the socket on the KAT500, nothing happened.  I removed and reinserted the power cable and the KAT500 powered on automatically with my pressing any buttons. 

What might explain this behavior?  

73, 
Hoop
K9QJS 
San Juan Island, WA   

From mteberle at mchsi.com  Mon Jun 22 00:21:34 2015
From: mteberle at mchsi.com (Michael Eberle)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 23:21:34 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500: Won't power on unless I remove the DC power
 cable and reinsert it ...
In-Reply-To: <21FD0D89-C22D-417F-9544-233E2E846E68@icloud.com>
References: <21FD0D89-C22D-417F-9544-233E2E846E68@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <55878D4E.8030800@mchsi.com>

I had issues with intermittent connections with the power plug on mine.  
Don't remember if I was using the cord that came with The KAT500 or not, 
but I haven't had any more problems since I switched to another cord 
with a better fitting plug.

Mike
KI0HA

On 6/21/2015 9:45 PM, Jim Hooper wrote:
> I turn my KAT500 off, and then turn it on first before powering the rest of my K-Line on.
>
> But two or three times now the following has happened:  when pressing the ON button for the KAT500, nothing happened.   I wiggled the power cable in the socket on the KAT500, nothing happened.  I removed and reinserted the power cable and the KAT500 powered on automatically with my pressing any buttons.
>
> What might explain this behavior?
>
> 73,
> Hoop
> K9QJS
> San Juan Island, WA
>


From toms at xmission.com  Mon Jun 22 00:28:55 2015
From: toms at xmission.com (Tom Schaefer)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 00:28:55 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KSYN3A + KSYN3
In-Reply-To: <5587626E.30501@embarqmail.com>
References: <BAY175-W45F03DF12E413DC3655080CFA10@phx.gbl>
	<5587626E.30501@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <6FB77876-FF5D-40A5-8B68-43E054483DDC@xmission.com>

As a cautionary tale, reading the instructions is really not optional with this stuff :)

If you decide to install the KRX3 for example, there are lots of little gotchas in the KRX3 install that are easily avoided by reading the directions. Not doing so is certainly at your own peril. 

Tom NY4I 

Principal Solutions Architect
Better Software Solutions, Inc. 
727-437-2771

> On Jun 21, 2015, at 9:18 PM, Don Wilhelm <w3fpr at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Russ,
> 
> If you install the KSYN3A for the main and then add the KRX3, you must have the KSYN3A for the sub as well.
> You cannot mix the synthesizers - they must both be the same.
> 
> Cheap/thrifty/cost effective does not matter, they both need to be the same.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 6/21/2015 8:59 PM, Russ wrote:
>> All:
>> 
>> For those of you who don't read instructions like me - remember to download and install the latest K3 utility before uploading the new 5.14 firmware (or above) - otherwise you may get an FPF load error.
>> 
>> Question - if I decide to install a KRX3 later, can I reuse the old KSYN3 for it - can the old KSYN3 and the new KSYN3A coexist in the same box?  OK - call me cheap / thrifty / cost effective or just stupid if you want  :>}
> 
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From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Mon Jun 22 08:59:20 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Bill Wiehe via Elecraft)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 07:59:20 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3- Background "crackling"  using KDVR3
Message-ID: <2EA8CE37-01A7-410D-83E2-4FDEF539E234@yahoo.com>

Wanted to check with the group to see if anyone else has had a similar situation where they hear a "crackling" nose in the the background when recording a voice message using the KDVR3. I only recently started to use the module for voice recording and noticed the noise immediately. 
Key points to note;
- it presents itself only when in "voice" modes. CW records clearly, that is no background noise.
- I can disconnect everything from the radio (except power source of course) and the noise it will be on the recording.
- In testing I even disconnected the microphone from the K3 and pressed record  in SSB mode and the "crackle" noise could be heard.
- Computers and everything else I can think of were turned off as well.
- If the "MIC" gain is off there is no crackle on the recording. However, as soon as the "MIC" gain is turned up, even a little, the crackle is in the background and "yes" the "CMP" is off.
I have chatted with the the Elecraft Techs but they seem to have run out of ideas at the moment. I checked the Archive as well but saw nothing there. I just wanted to see if anyone else has had a similar experience.
Thanks,
Bill - W0BBI  



From tf3y at tf3y.net  Mon Jun 22 10:35:49 2015
From: tf3y at tf3y.net (Yngvi (TF3Y))
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:35:49 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KSYN3A + KSYN3
Message-ID: <CADXHQtymUXS9f6gMjst1vtOGaFctmt+uYrTJQYoE1XeQ0aLLFA@mail.gmail.com>

As long as you buy a new KRX3-A I guess it would come with a KSYN3A.

73, Yngvi TF3Y

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 12:59 AM, Russ <mundschenk55 at msn.com> wrote:

> All:
>
> For those of you who don't read instructions like me - remember to
> download and install the latest K3 utility before uploading the new 5.14
> firmware (or above) - otherwise you may get an FPF load error.
>
> Question - if I decide to install a KRX3 later, can I reuse the old KSYN3
> for it - can the old KSYN3 and the new KSYN3A coexist in the same box?  OK
> - call me cheap / thrifty / cost effective or just stupid if you want  :>}
>
> Thanks, Russ KD4JO
>
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From toms at xmission.com  Mon Jun 22 10:45:45 2015
From: toms at xmission.com (Thomas Schaefer)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 10:45:45 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KSYN3A + KSYN3
In-Reply-To: <CADXHQtymUXS9f6gMjst1vtOGaFctmt+uYrTJQYoE1XeQ0aLLFA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADXHQtymUXS9f6gMjst1vtOGaFctmt+uYrTJQYoE1XeQ0aLLFA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <595A90ED-8876-4F96-AF9C-BE642E823891@xmission.com>

I just went thought this process and the new KRX3 comes with the new synth. I had to pick up a new synth to replace the old one in the main receiver as they have to match. 

It only took 12 hours to do it all including redoing the filters in the receiver because I did not read the manual close enough and my mis-understanding of the implication of ?optional steps? regarding the connection to the KAT3 tuner for the KRX3.

Hence, I am the cautionary tale about not reading the manual :)

But, I will say that doing this work makes me sorry I did not buy the kits for both K3s--that would be the plural of K3 versus a K3S :). It was GREAT FUN to install the sub receiver. I really enjoyed the fact that when someone was explaining routing the TMP cables, and installing the new pre-amp, I could see the exact parts and how they fit together. It made something abstract quite real and I like that.

Regards,

Tom Schaefer, NY4I
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> On Jun 22, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Yngvi (TF3Y) <tf3y at tf3y.net> wrote:
> 
> As long as you buy a new KRX3-A I guess it would come with a KSYN3A.
> 
> 73, Yngvi TF3Y
> 
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 12:59 AM, Russ <mundschenk55 at msn.com> wrote:
> 
>> All:
>> 
>> For those of you who don't read instructions like me - remember to
>> download and install the latest K3 utility before uploading the new 5.14
>> firmware (or above) - otherwise you may get an FPF load error.
>> 
>> Question - if I decide to install a KRX3 later, can I reuse the old KSYN3
>> for it - can the old KSYN3 and the new KSYN3A coexist in the same box?  OK
>> - call me cheap / thrifty / cost effective or just stupid if you want  :>}
>> 
>> Thanks, Russ KD4JO
>> 
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From w4rks73 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 10:51:41 2015
From: w4rks73 at gmail.com (James Wilson)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:51:41 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft]  K3- Background "crackling" using KDVR3
Message-ID: <CAJNRSCbKXffkhXviNhys5oY4Z8uvyko=2GdwW4H5tEbMdig+pQ@mail.gmail.com>

Bill,

I have two KDVR s and do not find the problem you describe.

I made recordings with the Mic gain at zero both with and
without a Mic connected. Without the Mic. I recorded with the
Mic Gain all the way up to "60" and still dead quiet.

My Mic input is set to the Front Panel.

Whatever it is, it does not seem to be inherent to the KDVR.

Hope this helps in your search. Good Luck.

Jim - W4RKS

From ac2ev at frontier.com  Mon Jun 22 13:19:08 2015
From: ac2ev at frontier.com (Frontier ac2ev)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 13:19:08 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 freq goes wonky
Message-ID: <4B336EF0-100A-42D3-BD31-ECB837E2DD9F@frontier.com>

I tried reloading the firmware and that didn't work so I did a full system reset on the K3. I re-entered my filters, options, and setting then performed a power calibration but not a synthesizer. It seems to be working again.

It's just odd that it only seemed to be in that specific range. 

73
Don AC2EV


From edauer at law.du.edu  Mon Jun 22 13:54:54 2015
From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:54:54 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Audio Protection Mod Kit
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15283.1434993557.22967.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <D1ADA79A.106EC%edauer@law.du.edu>

The mod kit has been spoken for.


>Message: 18
>Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 23:40:39 +0000
>From: "Dauer, Edward" <edauer at law.du.edu>
>To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Audio Protection Mod Kit
>Message-ID: <D1ACA6CD.106AE%edauer at law.du.edu>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>K3AUDPROTMDKT free to a good home.  Cleaning off shelves and found it
>again - I ordered it but my K3 already had the protection installed.  If
>you can actually use it, contact me offline (edauer at law.du.edu) - first
>reply wins.
>
>Ted, KN1CBR


From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Mon Jun 22 14:37:16 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Dick via Elecraft)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:37:16 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S - have initial shipments begun?
Message-ID: <1352ae.93c0d7a.42b9afdc@aol.com>

Wondering if initial shipments of the new K3S have begun?  If not,  please 
advise the target date?
 
73,
Dick- K9OM

From nf4l at comcast.net  Mon Jun 22 15:01:06 2015
From: nf4l at comcast.net (Mike Reublin NF4L)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:01:06 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S config file
In-Reply-To: <67AC1281-C448-4B02-B123-5E3E44382D41@elecraft.com>
References: <5586F735.3020308@nc.rr.com>
	<67AC1281-C448-4B02-B123-5E3E44382D41@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <B0D5B874-B5DF-420A-B8F5-E74904C728B7@comcast.net>

I'm confused. I was with Harlan, that a config file from another serial number wouldn't load. Has something changed with the K3S? How about K3 to K3?

73, Mike NF4L


> On Jun 21, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes. However, on restore of the configuration file to the K3S, K3 Utility will warn you that you're using a config file from a rig with a different serial number. You'll also probably need to tweak a few settings after the restore, since the K3S will have some new hardware.
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> On Jun 21, 2015, at 10:41 AM, brian <alsopb at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> 
>> Can one use a config file from a K3 as a starting point in configuring a K3s?   Years of tinkering with a K3 resulted in a configuration I wouldn't want to loose.
>> 
>> 73 de Brian/K3KO
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From k1tl at cox.net  Mon Jun 22 15:17:29 2015
From: k1tl at cox.net (Tom Lizak)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:17:29 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KXV3B First Observations
Message-ID: <008f01d0ad20$15230640$3f6912c0$@net>

Hi Gang,

 

I finally got to use the KXV3B module on the 6m band today (22Jun15) as it
finally opened for DX from EU.

 

When the band first opened up around 12Z or so, I only heard a couple of
weak EU stns while others north of me were working them. One ham 10 miles
from me, as the crow flies, was working several EU stns but I could not hear
any...yet ! This is the nature of the beast of the 6m band !

 

Went out to do some errands and returned after an hour...lo 'n behold, EU
finally was punching thru the K3. Many of the signals were weak to begin
with and I had to dig them out of the noise.........if it wasn't for the K3,
the new SYNTH boards and the KXV3B module, I would never have been able to
pull them out of the noise.

 

I have a modest setup here with a 5el yagi @ 55' and a KPA500 which is
pretty much needed on six meters during band cndx like this today.

 

Kudos have to go to the Elecraft crew on a job well done on implementing the
PR6-10 "guts" on to the KXV3B module.

 

73 y'all

Tom/k1tl...

 

 

 


From h3cary at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 16:18:02 2015
From: h3cary at gmail.com (H. Cary)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:18:02 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] FOR SALE - 2 Items
Message-ID: <B16F905C-D69D-4067-8AA1-216F1E8AF6E1@gmail.com>

(1)  SignaLink USB Sound Card Interface w/ K3 connecting cables/instructions..
New it's $119.95; yours for $65 w/ shipping Conus included.
Contact off list: H3Cary at gmail.com
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(2)  Heil desk mic w/ Elecraft name on mic face; black and chrome base.
8-pin connector works w/ K2 or K3 or K3s - terrific audio!
Photo available on request, contact: h3cary at gmail.com
$95 shipped CONUS.
434-660-8299
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From h3cary at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 16:29:08 2015
From: h3cary at gmail.com (H. Cary)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:29:08 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Mic sold
Message-ID: <0FD5A48B-F7F5-4D93-A60A-7225F3E1E501@gmail.com>

The Elecraft mic has been sold.
Cary, K4TM 

Sent from Clovelly Cottage, home of amateur radio station K4TM and the most creative Sue Cary, with my iPhone 6 in Lynchburg VA - a great place to live, work, play, and retire!

From w7ldxp at embarqmail.com  Mon Jun 22 16:42:51 2015
From: w7ldxp at embarqmail.com (Jack West)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 13:42:51 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] NEED K3 HELP
Message-ID: <000801d0ad2c$0326dff0$0202a8c0@hamradio>

First problem with my K3 in five years. I have no MENU or CONFIG display.
NADA...  I have an "ERR KEY" display.

I reloaded the latest Software via the K3 utility program, including the
DSP. I did not see anything wrong in the CONFIGURATION file.
The utiliuty program says the down load was satisfactory.

Any ideas where I look?

73 de
Jack / W7LD / "Lucky Dog"

From lists at subich.com  Mon Jun 22 16:48:28 2015
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:48:28 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] NEED K3 HELP
In-Reply-To: <000801d0ad2c$0326dff0$0202a8c0@hamradio>
References: <000801d0ad2c$0326dff0$0202a8c0@hamradio>
Message-ID: <5588749C.9010908@subich.com>


ERR KEY means the key jack (or paddle?) is closed as start-up.
Note, that can also mean the DTR or RTS line on the RS-232 port
is being held high if you have CONFIG:CW-PTT set to anything
other than OFF-OFF.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-06-22 4:42 PM, Jack West wrote:
> First problem with my K3 in five years. I have no MENU or CONFIG display.
> NADA...  I have an "ERR KEY" display.
>
> I reloaded the latest Software via the K3 utility program, including the
> DSP. I did not see anything wrong in the CONFIGURATION file.
> The utiliuty program says the down load was satisfactory.
>
> Any ideas where I look?
>
> 73 de
> Jack / W7LD / "Lucky Dog"
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From w6jhb at me.com  Mon Jun 22 16:48:17 2015
From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 13:48:17 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] NEED K3 HELP
In-Reply-To: <000801d0ad2c$0326dff0$0202a8c0@hamradio>
References: <000801d0ad2c$0326dff0$0202a8c0@hamradio>
Message-ID: <89208E9B-CE37-4DFA-BC7E-75C1068D1E48@me.com>

Jack - I get that message if I have my straight key depressed upon power up. Check your key / paddle connections....

jim / W6JHB


> On   Monday, Jun 22, 2015, at  Monday, 1:42 PM, Jack West <w7ldxp at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> 
> First problem with my K3 in five years. I have no MENU or CONFIG display.
> NADA...  I have an "ERR KEY" display.
> 
> I reloaded the latest Software via the K3 utility program, including the
> DSP. I did not see anything wrong in the CONFIGURATION file.
> The utiliuty program says the down load was satisfactory.
> 
> Any ideas where I look?
> 
> 73 de
> Jack / W7LD / "Lucky Dog"
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From frantz at pwpconsult.com  Mon Jun 22 16:52:35 2015
From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 13:52:35 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] QRP RTTY
Message-ID: <r422Ps-1075i-6278483F31C1431B8EDE5E57B4956889@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>

Last year during field day, I made 186 PSK contacts and 1 RTTY 
contact running QRP. I tried for many more RTTY contacts, but in 
all but one case, the other station could not hear me. The one 
exception was on 10 meters with a station across San Francisco 
bay from our operation and probably line of sight. He had 
difficulty coping my exchange. Since the PSK contacts included 
stations in New England and Quebec, so I was getting out.

Has anyone had success in QRP RTTY operation? Should I consider 
RTTY a mode only suitable for higher power?

73 Bill AE6JV

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From k6ll.dave at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 17:07:03 2015
From: k6ll.dave at gmail.com (Dave Hachadorian)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:07:03 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] NEED K3 HELP
In-Reply-To: <000801d0ad2c$0326dff0$0202a8c0@hamradio>
References: <000801d0ad2c$0326dff0$0202a8c0@hamradio>
Message-ID: <E338A3A7E80741D2964C3A4E5305D3D7@Toshiba>

What the other guys said, in different words:
Turn off the K3.
Unplug the DB-9 on the back of the K3, also unplug the key and 
paddle.
Turn on the K3, and go to config PTT - KEY.  Make sure it says 
OFF - OFF.


Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ



-----Original Message----- 
From: Jack West
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 1:42 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] NEED K3 HELP

First problem with my K3 in five years. I have no MENU or CONFIG 
display.
NADA...  I have an "ERR KEY" display.

I reloaded the latest Software via the K3 utility program, 
including the
DSP. I did not see anything wrong in the CONFIGURATION file.
The utiliuty program says the down load was satisfactory.

Any ideas where I look?

73 de
Jack / W7LD / "Lucky Dog"
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Mon Jun 22 17:09:03 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:09:03 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] QRP RTTY
In-Reply-To: <r422Ps-1075i-6278483F31C1431B8EDE5E57B4956889@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
References: <r422Ps-1075i-6278483F31C1431B8EDE5E57B4956889@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
Message-ID: <97F0C876-11A9-42DA-AD61-CB694B2505AB@elecraft.com>

When the bands are open, you can work DX with QRP RTTY, though of course the S/N isn't as good as with CW. One field day I made about a dozen RTTY contacts in half an hour using FSK-D mode and 5 W. I had a long random wire up in a tree (probably 80' or so), plus a few radials.

Wayne
N6KR


On Jun 22, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com> wrote:

> Last year during field day, I made 186 PSK contacts and 1 RTTY contact running QRP. I tried for many more RTTY contacts, but in all but one case, the other station could not hear me. The one exception was on 10 meters with a station across San Francisco bay from our operation and probably line of sight. He had difficulty coping my exchange. Since the PSK contacts included stations in New England and Quebec, so I was getting out.
> 
> Has anyone had success in QRP RTTY operation? Should I consider RTTY a mode only suitable for higher power?
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Bill Frantz        |Security, like correctness, is| Periwinkle
> (408)356-8506      |not an add-on feature. - Attr-| 16345 Englewood Ave
> www.pwpconsult.com |ibuted to Andrew Tanenbaum    | Los Gatos, CA 95032
> 
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From wk6i.jeff at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 17:25:04 2015
From: wk6i.jeff at gmail.com (Jeff Stai)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:25:04 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] QRP RTTY
In-Reply-To: <r422Ps-1075i-6278483F31C1431B8EDE5E57B4956889@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
References: <r422Ps-1075i-6278483F31C1431B8EDE5E57B4956889@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
Message-ID: <CAH0gZcacAsXHvLWjY2tNoR286kK5Cza1YieDRcP0DACWryR26w@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com> wrote:

> Has anyone had success in QRP RTTY operation? Should I consider RTTY a
> mode only suitable for higher power?
>

hi Bill - I write the results article in QST for the RTTY Roundup. Several
people who operated in the Roundup this year "declared" that they were QRP
in the Soapbox. One made over 50,000 points! So it is certainly possible to
have success at QRP, but you will more success if you turn up the power of
course.

73 jeff wk6i



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From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Mon Jun 22 17:27:56 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:27:56 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] NEED K3 HELP
In-Reply-To: <E338A3A7E80741D2964C3A4E5305D3D7@Toshiba>
References: <000801d0ad2c$0326dff0$0202a8c0@hamradio>
	<E338A3A7E80741D2964C3A4E5305D3D7@Toshiba>
Message-ID: <55887DDC.8060900@embarqmail.com>

Jack,

Don't overlook the microphone - PTT switch engaged will cause that same 
message.
So unplug everything except the power cord and antenna coax.   If it 
then powers on without the message, plug things in one at a time. When 
you get the error, look at the last thing plugged in.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/22/2015 5:07 PM, Dave Hachadorian wrote:
> What the other guys said, in different words:
> Turn off the K3.
> Unplug the DB-9 on the back of the K3, also unplug the key and paddle.
> Turn on the K3, and go to config PTT - KEY.  Make sure it says OFF - OFF.
>
>
> Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
> Yuma, AZ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Jack West
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 1:42 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] NEED K3 HELP
>
> First problem with my K3 in five years. I have no MENU or CONFIG display.
> NADA...  I have an "ERR KEY" display.
>
> I reloaded the latest Software via the K3 utility program, including the
> DSP. I did not see anything wrong in the CONFIGURATION file.
> The utiliuty program says the down load was satisfactory.
>
> Any ideas where I look?
>
> 73 de
> Jack / W7LD / "Lucky Dog"
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From jim at jtmiller.com  Mon Jun 22 17:35:12 2015
From: jim at jtmiller.com (Jim Miller)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:35:12 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Early K3 pricing?
Message-ID: <CACYeN9zEG5HK7+oXwwgmUGi-RqJT70FP+1X9jWtCDs+DhGP-QA@mail.gmail.com>

I'm unable to find my invoice for my early K3-10 #1210. Anyone recall the
pricing for a base unit of that vintage?

thanks

jim ab3cv

From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Mon Jun 22 17:41:44 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:41:44 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Early K3 pricing?
In-Reply-To: <CACYeN9zEG5HK7+oXwwgmUGi-RqJT70FP+1X9jWtCDs+DhGP-QA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACYeN9zEG5HK7+oXwwgmUGi-RqJT70FP+1X9jWtCDs+DhGP-QA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55888118.2010904@embarqmail.com>

Jim,

My recall is not perfect, but I do think it was just under $1000 with no 
options - and I don't remember if that was for the kit or Factory, but I 
rather believe it was for the kit.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/22/2015 5:35 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
> I'm unable to find my invoice for my early K3-10 #1210. Anyone recall the
> pricing for a base unit of that vintage?
>
>


From mzilmer at roadrunner.com  Mon Jun 22 17:48:55 2015
From: mzilmer at roadrunner.com (Matt Zilmer)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:48:55 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Early K3 pricing?
In-Reply-To: <CACYeN9zEG5HK7+oXwwgmUGi-RqJT70FP+1X9jWtCDs+DhGP-QA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACYeN9zEG5HK7+oXwwgmUGi-RqJT70FP+1X9jWtCDs+DhGP-QA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <di0hoa5mivei85qgauck0o7dkobjshqh77@4ax.com>

Mine is #24, and was a kit.  I paid the 50% deposit and that was right
around $750.  I bought only the K3/10 base unit with a single roofing
filter on the first purchase.

73,
matt W6NIA

On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:35:12 -0400, you wrote:

>I'm unable to find my invoice for my early K3-10 #1210. Anyone recall the
>pricing for a base unit of that vintage?
>
>thanks
>
>jim ab3cv
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From jim at jtmiller.com  Mon Jun 22 17:53:45 2015
From: jim at jtmiller.com (Jim Miller)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:53:45 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Early K3 pricing?
In-Reply-To: <CACYeN9zEG5HK7+oXwwgmUGi-RqJT70FP+1X9jWtCDs+DhGP-QA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACYeN9zEG5HK7+oXwwgmUGi-RqJT70FP+1X9jWtCDs+DhGP-QA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACYeN9wfzLajUL+H1U3EExU8X+hcd2gkwfCC37vMa3_7V6VLDQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks all. I remembered the internet wayback machine and found the pricing
there.

pretty amazing resource!

73

jim ab3cv

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Jim Miller <jim at jtmiller.com> wrote:

> I'm unable to find my invoice for my early K3-10 #1210. Anyone recall the
> pricing for a base unit of that vintage?
>
> thanks
>
> jim ab3cv
>

From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Mon Jun 22 18:09:35 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 18:09:35 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Frequency Limits by license?
In-Reply-To: <1434937701740-7604168.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1434937701740-7604168.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <5588879F.5070609@embarqmail.com>

Because it can be programmed to adhere to several country limitations, I 
am certain that is *possible*, but that is not a user programmable 
feature, and requires a substantial effort on the part of the Elecraft 
staff to provide such limits.  So I doubt that it would be done for US 
customers.

Part of the requirements for obtaining a license in the US is to know 
and abide by the limitations of our license class - you just have to 
look at the frequency display - it has been that way on all HF 
transceivers that I have encountered and many of those were 'wide open' 
and would transmit on any frequency that they were tuned to. It is the 
responsibility of the operator to know where he is transmitting.  I 
think it is an unwise thing to try to depend on the transceiver to tell 
you that you are out of your band limits, but then I am an 'old timer' 
with 'old thinking' - I would not want my transceiver to try to tell me 
I am out of my band limits - I reserve that for my own judgement.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/21/2015 9:48 PM, jonlevy73 wrote:
> Can the KX3 be programmed so the operator be limited by their license
> privileges?
>
>


From n1al at sonic.net  Mon Jun 22 18:13:34 2015
From: n1al at sonic.net (Alan)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:13:34 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Early K3 pricing?
In-Reply-To: <di0hoa5mivei85qgauck0o7dkobjshqh77@4ax.com>
References: <CACYeN9zEG5HK7+oXwwgmUGi-RqJT70FP+1X9jWtCDs+DhGP-QA@mail.gmail.com>
	<di0hoa5mivei85qgauck0o7dkobjshqh77@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <5588888E.5010806@sonic.net>

I'm looking at the Wayback Machine for August 10 2008:

https://web.archive.org/web/20070810154421/http://www.elecraft.com/

It says a basic K3/10 cost $1399.95 and a K3/100 was $1849.95.

Alan N1AL


On 06/22/2015 02:48 PM, Matt Zilmer wrote:
> Mine is #24, and was a kit.  I paid the 50% deposit and that was right
> around $750.  I bought only the K3/10 base unit with a single roofing
> filter on the first purchase.
>
> 73,
> matt W6NIA
>
> On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:35:12 -0400, you wrote:
>
>> I'm unable to find my invoice for my early K3-10 #1210. Anyone recall the
>> pricing for a base unit of that vintage?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> jim ab3cv
>> ______________________________________________________________
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>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
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From w7ldxp at embarqmail.com  Mon Jun 22 18:34:32 2015
From: w7ldxp at embarqmail.com (Jack West)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:34:32 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] NEED K3 HELP
References: <000801d0ad2c$0326dff0$0202a8c0@hamradio>
	<E338A3A7E80741D2964C3A4E5305D3D7@Toshiba>
Message-ID: <002d01d0ad3b$9d4bf160$0202a8c0@hamradio>

Thanks, but that is the problem....i have NO Config or Menu to display

73 de
Jack / W7LD / "Lucky Dog"


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Hachadorian" <k6ll.dave at gmail.com>
To: "Reflector Elecraft" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] NEED K3 HELP


> What the other guys said, in different words:
> Turn off the K3.
> Unplug the DB-9 on the back of the K3, also unplug the key and 
> paddle.
> Turn on the K3, and go to config PTT - KEY.  Make sure it says 
> OFF - OFF.
> 
> 
> Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
> Yuma, AZ
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Jack West
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 1:42 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] NEED K3 HELP
> 
> First problem with my K3 in five years. I have no MENU or CONFIG 
> display.
> NADA...  I have an "ERR KEY" display.
> 
> I reloaded the latest Software via the K3 utility program, 
> including the
> DSP. I did not see anything wrong in the CONFIGURATION file.
> The utiliuty program says the down load was satisfactory.
> 
> Any ideas where I look?
> 
> 73 de
> Jack / W7LD / "Lucky Dog"
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From w7ldxp at embarqmail.com  Mon Jun 22 18:37:04 2015
From: w7ldxp at embarqmail.com (Jack West)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:37:04 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] NEED K3 HELP
References: <000801d0ad2c$0326dff0$0202a8c0@hamradio>
Message-ID: <003801d0ad3b$f7693f90$0202a8c0@hamradio>

Thanks Guys,

Found it! It was as you said....dumb me.

73 de
Jack / W7LD / "Lucky Dog"


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack West" <w7ldxp at embarqmail.com>
To: "Elecraft Reflector" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 1:42 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] NEED K3 HELP


> First problem with my K3 in five years. I have no MENU or CONFIG display.
> NADA...  I have an "ERR KEY" display.
> 
> I reloaded the latest Software via the K3 utility program, including the
> DSP. I did not see anything wrong in the CONFIGURATION file.
> The utiliuty program says the down load was satisfactory.
> 
> Any ideas where I look?
> 
> 73 de
> Jack / W7LD / "Lucky Dog"
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From k6dgw at foothill.net  Mon Jun 22 20:20:37 2015
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:20:37 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Frequency Limits by license?
In-Reply-To: <5588879F.5070609@embarqmail.com>
References: <1434937701740-7604168.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<5588879F.5070609@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <5588A655.1040507@foothill.net>

They also change from time to time.

It always was your responsibility to make sure you were transmitting 
within the ham band.  I know it was my responsibility because I still 
have the "Pink Slip" taped to the back of one of my log pages from that 
era, more than one stage of my HB transmitter had decided to become an 
oscillator.  Sadly, there was no firmware in my HB open-chassis 807 
transmitter to warn me. :-)

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org

On 6/22/2015 3:09 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Part of the requirements for obtaining a license in the US is to know
> and abide by the limitations of our license class - you just have to
> look at the frequency display - it has been that way on all HF
> transceivers that I have encountered and many of those were 'wide open'
> and would transmit on any frequency that they were tuned to. It is the
> responsibility of the operator to know where he is transmitting.  I
> think it is an unwise thing to try to depend on the transceiver to tell
> you that you are out of your band limits, but then I am an 'old timer'
> with 'old thinking' - I would not want my transceiver to try to tell me
> I am out of my band limits - I reserve that for my own judgement.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR


From apsather at shaw.ca  Mon Jun 22 20:21:26 2015
From: apsather at shaw.ca (Al Sather)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:21:26 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] SSB net needs a new NCS
Message-ID: <5588A686.8050003@shaw.ca>

Greetings Phil

I am sorry to hear that you are leaving NCS. Over the years you have 
done a fine job.
I have not checked in as often I would have liked because I have a 
conflict with church.

I wish you good luck with the Parkinson's. My mother had it, and it is 
not a nice disease, if any disease is. But, they are making progress, 
and a friend of mine was telling me about some of the new treatments.

Best wishes in the futurem
Al ve7ear

From k2vco.vic at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 23:21:26 2015
From: k2vco.vic at gmail.com (Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 06:21:26 +0300
Subject: [Elecraft] Frequency Limits by license?
In-Reply-To: <5588A655.1040507@foothill.net>
References: <1434937701740-7604168.post@n2.nabble.com>	<5588879F.5070609@embarqmail.com>
	<5588A655.1040507@foothill.net>
Message-ID: <5588D0B6.7020904@gmail.com>

It wouldn't be a good idea to depend on the transceiver. If you are 
operating USB, for example, you have to keep the (suppressed) carrier 
frequency several kHz below the top of the band so your sideband will be 
inside it; same for LSB and the bottom of the band. Even in CW there is 
a consideration of bandwidth, although the K3 series rigs have very 
narrow CW signals. But it would not be prudent to operate exactly on the 
band edge.

73,
Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
Rehovot, Israel
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/

On 23 Jun 2015 03:20, Fred Jensen wrote:
> They also change from time to time.
>
> It always was your responsibility to make sure you were transmitting
> within the ham band.  I know it was my responsibility because I still
> have the "Pink Slip" taped to the back of one of my log pages from that
> era, more than one stage of my HB transmitter had decided to become an
> oscillator.  Sadly, there was no firmware in my HB open-chassis 807
> transmitter to warn me. :-)
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
> - www.cqp.org
>
> On 6/22/2015 3:09 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>
>> Part of the requirements for obtaining a license in the US is to know
>> and abide by the limitations of our license class - you just have to
>> look at the frequency display - it has been that way on all HF
>> transceivers that I have encountered and many of those were 'wide open'
>> and would transmit on any frequency that they were tuned to. It is the
>> responsibility of the operator to know where he is transmitting.  I
>> think it is an unwise thing to try to depend on the transceiver to tell
>> you that you are out of your band limits, but then I am an 'old timer'
>> with 'old thinking' - I would not want my transceiver to try to tell me
>> I am out of my band limits - I reserve that for my own judgement.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR

From jh3sif at sumaq.jp  Mon Jun 22 23:58:13 2015
From: jh3sif at sumaq.jp (Keith Onishi)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:58:13 +0900
Subject: [Elecraft] QRP RTTY
In-Reply-To: <r422Ps-1075i-6278483F31C1431B8EDE5E57B4956889@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
References: <r422Ps-1075i-6278483F31C1431B8EDE5E57B4956889@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
Message-ID: <14D4EC9A-A6D9-4E16-B374-0A5173B4A443@sumaq.jp>

I have worked FT5ZM in 21RTTY with KX3 5W from JA. Of course, pileup was very light then.
When condition is very good and noise level is low at the other location, QRP RTTY is very possible.

73 de JH3SIF, Keith

> 2015/06/23 5:52?Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com> ?????
> 
> Last year during field day, I made 186 PSK contacts and 1 RTTY contact running QRP. I tried for many more RTTY contacts, but in all but one case, the other station could not hear me. The one exception was on 10 meters with a station across San Francisco bay from our operation and probably line of sight. He had difficulty coping my exchange. Since the PSK contacts included stations in New England and Quebec, so I was getting out.
> 
> Has anyone had success in QRP RTTY operation? Should I consider RTTY a mode only suitable for higher power?
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
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From frantz at pwpconsult.com  Tue Jun 23 00:40:18 2015
From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 21:40:18 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Frequency Limits by license?
In-Reply-To: <5588D0B6.7020904@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <r422Ps-1075i-24DB205FA3BC4572907B46555ABF22EB@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>

My concerns are a bit different. While I like having the radio 
keep me honest, and as an extra class licensee, I'm in good 
shape with the current radio firmware, I worry about 
emergencies. The FCC allows us to work out of band during 
emergencies, but I can't move to a public agency frequency in an 
emergency because there is no override in the firmware.

Now anytime you work out of band, you should expect to have to 
justify it to the FCC. One hopes that they will be gentler than 
loss of license and a $10,000 fine if you have a good reason for 
your operation. If you have a good reason, it should also play 
will in the court of public opinion. YMMV

73 Bill AE6JV

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From Bernhard.Horst at bmw.de  Tue Jun 23 01:39:31 2015
From: Bernhard.Horst at bmw.de (Bernhard.Horst at bmw.de)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 05:39:31 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 deaf when bandwidth smaller than 500Hz??
Message-ID: <67E5CDC47D8B374AAE23787EF65563F2333052@smucm55b>

Hi folks,

after three weeks not using my K3 (Antenna disconnected, power off) I observed a very strange thing:

When turning the bandwith down to 500Hz, the loudspeaker goes deaf despite separate 250Hz and 500Hz filters installed!
This happens only to the main receiver, the sub receiver performs as wanted.
When selecting a bandwith above 500Hz the K3 works as normal! It seems as the K3 is not selecting the smaller filters in the RX path.

Did update firmware, resets, restored old configurations...last but not least the Elecraft hotiline could not help further.
The only solution is sending it back.

Did anybody observe a similar thing?

S-Nr. Is 7629.. 2,8kHz; 2,1kHz; 1,8kHz and 500Hz/250Hz filters installed
Apart from the 2m module fully equipped!

Quite lost at the moment.

73s
Bernie
DL5RDP

From DL2RUM at t-online.de  Tue Jun 23 06:57:51 2015
From: DL2RUM at t-online.de (Thomas Lindner)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:57:51 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] Latest P3 Firmware
Message-ID: <10C45032-9674-4DB3-8F49-43436E3E4D36@t-online.de>

I loaded MCU 1.35 Beta in January 2015 on my P3. I love the new P3 control commands. 1.35 was removed from the server some time later.
Are there any news about a P3 firmware update that I missed?

I use the new in 1.35 introduced CAT commands in my P3 control software, the latest production release is 1.29 from May 2014.


73 de Tom, DL2RUM

From raysills3 at verizon.net  Tue Jun 23 08:08:35 2015
From: raysills3 at verizon.net (Ray Sills)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:08:35 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] QRP RTTY
In-Reply-To: <14D4EC9A-A6D9-4E16-B374-0A5173B4A443@sumaq.jp>
References: <r422Ps-1075i-6278483F31C1431B8EDE5E57B4956889@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
	<14D4EC9A-A6D9-4E16-B374-0A5173B4A443@sumaq.jp>
Message-ID: <67ADEB7E-11A7-40F5-AB5E-7B10D6F919ED@verizon.net>

Indeed, QRP RTTY is quite possible.  I worked ER5LL (Moldova) back in  
October of 2012 via RTTY.  And, it was on 40 meters, at night, using  
an indoor AlexLoop antenna, running 3 watts.   True, it was during a  
contest, but nevertheless, a QSO is a QSO.   Pretty cool!

And, I was using -just- the KX3 in RTTY-D mode, sending via the paddles.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211

From k2av.guy at gmail.com  Tue Jun 23 08:58:07 2015
From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:58:07 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 deaf when bandwidth smaller than 500Hz??
In-Reply-To: <67E5CDC47D8B374AAE23787EF65563F2333052@smucm55b>
References: <67E5CDC47D8B374AAE23787EF65563F2333052@smucm55b>
Message-ID: <CANckpc3nMq0GHPDbFS8vEPHV7tMsXN5NT=4Br96PVLBsX_DMuQ@mail.gmail.com>

Anything that disrupts the signal path, including a complex diode
switch network that is the literal switching device. Includes a messed up
configuration

On Tuesday, June 23, 2015, <Bernhard.Horst at bmw.de> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> after three weeks not using my K3 (Antenna disconnected, power off) I
> observed a very strange thing:
>
> When turning the bandwith down to 500Hz, the loudspeaker goes deaf despite
> separate 250Hz and 500Hz filters installed!
> This happens only to the main receiver, the sub receiver performs as
> wanted.
> When selecting a bandwith above 500Hz the K3 works as normal! It seems as
> the K3 is not selecting the smaller filters in the RX path.
>
> Did update firmware, resets, restored old configurations...last but not
> least the Elecraft hotiline could not help further.
> The only solution is sending it back.
>
> Did anybody observe a similar thing?
>
> S-Nr. Is 7629.. 2,8kHz; 2,1kHz; 1,8kHz and 500Hz/250Hz filters installed
> Apart from the 2m module fully equipped!
>
> Quite lost at the moment.
>
> 73s
> Bernie
> DL5RDP
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From k2av.guy at gmail.com  Tue Jun 23 09:28:01 2015
From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:28:01 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 deaf when bandwidth smaller than 500Hz??
In-Reply-To: <CANckpc3nMq0GHPDbFS8vEPHV7tMsXN5NT=4Br96PVLBsX_DMuQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <67E5CDC47D8B374AAE23787EF65563F2333052@smucm55b>
	<CANckpc3nMq0GHPDbFS8vEPHV7tMsXN5NT=4Br96PVLBsX_DMuQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANckpc0bHfxdHR2bg7+B8eKuvSTAJffZrD7+TRvFg1tc=_Q5cw@mail.gmail.com>

Previous accidental post before reply was finished...

It can be anything that disrupts the signal path, directly or indirectly,
including a complex diode switch network that is the literal switching
device and runs all the state changes in the unit.

Possibilities include a messed up configuration. This could be in memory
only, but you seem to have checked that out.

Possibilities include the literal pins of the filters becoming oxidized.
This seems less likely due to two of them going down at the same time. Try
removing the two filters that cut out from the filter configuration. Do it
one at a time and then both. See what happens. Does the K3 work if the SSB
filter is used as the roofer for the CW bandwidths? If so, open up the case
to get access to the filters. Use a tiny, tiny (really tiny) bit of oxide
remover like Deoxit on each pin tip and do some repeated insertion and
removal. This could restore it, if oxidation on pins actually was the
problem.

Possibilities include one of the switching diodes having a poorly wetted
solder connection to the PCB land (I had two of those intermittent in my K3
many years ago, that would change, make contact, break contact with
temperature change. Took a little doing to run it down. Having two on their
own intermittent schedule was an enormous confusion factor. Or one of these
could have shorted, which could affect more than one circuit at a time. But
that was a board fabrication issue which they took care of years before
yours was made.

These paths can be traced if you can read the schematic, use a voltmeter,
take the unit apart, etc. I did it successfully and I don't work for
Elecraft. But if you're not into that level of electronic snooping you
probably need to get it to someone who is. Nobody qualified in DL land that
works on K3's? That would be hard to believe.

73 and Good Luck,

Guy K2AV


>
> On Tuesday, June 23, 2015, <Bernhard.Horst at bmw.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> after three weeks not using my K3 (Antenna disconnected, power off) I
>> observed a very strange thing:
>>
>> When turning the bandwith down to 500Hz, the loudspeaker goes deaf
>> despite separate 250Hz and 500Hz filters installed!
>> This happens only to the main receiver, the sub receiver performs as
>> wanted.
>> When selecting a bandwith above 500Hz the K3 works as normal! It seems as
>> the K3 is not selecting the smaller filters in the RX path.
>>
>> Did update firmware, resets, restored old configurations...last but not
>> least the Elecraft hotiline could not help further.
>> The only solution is sending it back.
>>
>> Did anybody observe a similar thing?
>>
>> S-Nr. Is 7629.. 2,8kHz; 2,1kHz; 1,8kHz and 500Hz/250Hz filters installed
>> Apart from the 2m module fully equipped!
>>
>> Quite lost at the moment.
>>
>> 73s
>> Bernie
>> DL5RDP
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From mrudolph at therabbi.com  Tue Jun 23 10:56:49 2015
From: mrudolph at therabbi.com (Michael Rudolph)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:56:49 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] CW with kx3 and Fldigi
Message-ID: <025f01d0adc4$d526f600$7f74e200$@therabbi.com>

I want to type my CW using Fldigi.  In attempting it, I currently have the
kx3 mode set to USB and the Fldigi mode set to CW.  I am concerned about two
things:

 

1.       That if someone answers me by keying his transmitter in CW mode,
his frequency will be different than mine, and when I move the red bar in
Fldigi over his signal in order to decode him, my transmit frequency will
change as well.  I want some way that both parties to the QSO are on the
same frequency.

2.       I am concerned that if I transmit CW with the kx3 set to USB
instead of CW, I will only be transmitting part of the 10 Watts that my kx3
is set to.

 

Clearly, I need a novice's explanation of these modes of operation.

 

73,

Michael

N3IRT


From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Tue Jun 23 11:15:59 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:15:59 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] CW with kx3 and Fldigi
In-Reply-To: <025f01d0adc4$d526f600$7f74e200$@therabbi.com>
References: <025f01d0adc4$d526f600$7f74e200$@therabbi.com>
Message-ID: <5589782F.5080900@embarqmail.com>

Michael,

First of all, use DATA A instead of USB.  That mode sets compression to 
zero and the TX EQ to flat.  So whatever your settings for SSB might be, 
they are not disturbed.

Fldigi just sends an audio tone to the KX3.  Set the audio level (with 
the soundcard output level and/or the KX3 mic level) so you have 4 bars 
illuminated on the ALC meter with the 5th bar flashing. Set the desired 
power level with the Power knob.  You will be transmitting at the full 
power level.

As far as your TX and RX frequencies go, there is a way to have Fldigi 
lock the transmit frequency so that will not move.  I don't recall just 
how to do it, but look in the Fldigi help file to find out which 
keystrokes lock TX.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/23/2015 10:56 AM, Michael Rudolph wrote:
> I want to type my CW using Fldigi.  In attempting it, I currently have the
> kx3 mode set to USB and the Fldigi mode set to CW.  I am concerned about two
> things:
>
>   
>
> 1.       That if someone answers me by keying his transmitter in CW mode,
> his frequency will be different than mine, and when I move the red bar in
> Fldigi over his signal in order to decode him, my transmit frequency will
> change as well.  I want some way that both parties to the QSO are on the
> same frequency.
>
> 2.       I am concerned that if I transmit CW with the kx3 set to USB
> instead of CW, I will only be transmitting part of the 10 Watts that my kx3
> is set to.
>
>


From david at aslinvc.com  Tue Jun 23 11:52:35 2015
From: david at aslinvc.com (Dave G3WGN M6O)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:52:35 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards
Message-ID: <149de47b36bf4e8c8e833c8f4912bfa3@SEHSTE15D2BE6.hs20.net>

Is there anyone out there yet who has done a detailed study of 6m birdies with the new synth and either external or internal preamp?  A good friend with an early K3 is reluctant to upgrade to K3S as he hears a couple of dozen birdies on 6m with antenna disconnected.
So how has this aspect of K3 performance evolved from early K3 (his is S/N sub-100) to the K3S?
73
David G3WGN  M6O
Member of the 6Gs team at E6GG in September 2015 www.e6gg.com<http://www.e6gg.com>
Work us on as many bands as you can!






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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Tue Jun 23 13:41:07 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:41:07 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards
In-Reply-To: <149de47b36bf4e8c8e833c8f4912bfa3@SEHSTE15D2BE6.hs20.net>
References: <149de47b36bf4e8c8e833c8f4912bfa3@SEHSTE15D2BE6.hs20.net>
Message-ID: <8B7A7D8F-B091-46F8-B839-F2864F3DBB53@elecraft.com>

David,

When we designed the K3S, we very carefully evaluated internally generated spurs on all bands. We found that the KSYN3 and KSYN3A had roughly the same number. This is consistent with both being high-level signal sources; you can't get rid of spurs entirely. All but a very few are masked by band noise, as well. 

6 meters was no exception. Both the old and new synths show some spurs on this band, and we adjusted PLL divider ratios, etc., to minimize them. But the new synth -- in our tests -- doesn't have any more than the old. I use a pair of the new synths in my lab K3S, as well as the KXV3B, which includes premamp 2 (-145 dB MDS). I've had no problem with spurs on 6 meters. 

In some cases, it could come down to how the cables are oriented. Make sure you're orienting the cables as described in the manual, and if you feel that you have excessive spurs, email customer support. If we come up with any improved cable routing, we'll post to the list.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jun 23, 2015, at 8:52 AM, Dave G3WGN M6O <david at aslinvc.com> wrote:

> Is there anyone out there yet who has done a detailed study of 6m birdies with the new synth and either external or internal preamp?  A good friend with an early K3 is reluctant to upgrade to K3S as he hears a couple of dozen birdies on 6m with antenna disconnected.
> So how has this aspect of K3 performance evolved from early K3 (his is S/N sub-100) to the K3S?
> 73
> David G3WGN  M6O
> Member of the 6Gs team at E6GG in September 2015 www.e6gg.com<http://www.e6gg.com>
> Work us on as many bands as you can!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From bhemmis at mac.com  Tue Jun 23 13:44:36 2015
From: bhemmis at mac.com (Brian Hemmis)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:44:36 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards
In-Reply-To: <8B7A7D8F-B091-46F8-B839-F2864F3DBB53@elecraft.com>
References: <149de47b36bf4e8c8e833c8f4912bfa3@SEHSTE15D2BE6.hs20.net>
	<8B7A7D8F-B091-46F8-B839-F2864F3DBB53@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <EDA60710-E751-4F53-A3A6-C9D9D0522D10@mac.com>

David, Your friend states there are 2 dozen birdies on 6 meters with the antenna DISCONNECTED. This tells me nothing. Please tell him to connect a RESONANT 6 meter antenna to the radio then tell me how many birdies he hears.
73, Brian K3USC


> On Jun 23, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
> 
> David,
> 
> When we designed the K3S, we very carefully evaluated internally generated spurs on all bands. We found that the KSYN3 and KSYN3A had roughly the same number. This is consistent with both being high-level signal sources; you can't get rid of spurs entirely. All but a very few are masked by band noise, as well. 
> 
> 6 meters was no exception. Both the old and new synths show some spurs on this band, and we adjusted PLL divider ratios, etc., to minimize them. But the new synth -- in our tests -- doesn't have any more than the old. I use a pair of the new synths in my lab K3S, as well as the KXV3B, which includes premamp 2 (-145 dB MDS). I've had no problem with spurs on 6 meters. 
> 
> In some cases, it could come down to how the cables are oriented. Make sure you're orienting the cables as described in the manual, and if you feel that you have excessive spurs, email customer support. If we come up with any improved cable routing, we'll post to the list.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> On Jun 23, 2015, at 8:52 AM, Dave G3WGN M6O <david at aslinvc.com> wrote:
> 
>> Is there anyone out there yet who has done a detailed study of 6m birdies with the new synth and either external or internal preamp?  A good friend with an early K3 is reluctant to upgrade to K3S as he hears a couple of dozen birdies on 6m with antenna disconnected.
>> So how has this aspect of K3 performance evolved from early K3 (his is S/N sub-100) to the K3S?
>> 73
>> David G3WGN  M6O
>> Member of the 6Gs team at E6GG in September 2015 www.e6gg.com<http://www.e6gg.com>
>> Work us on as many bands as you can!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
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From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Tue Jun 23 14:11:21 2015
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:11:21 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards
In-Reply-To: <EDA60710-E751-4F53-A3A6-C9D9D0522D10@mac.com>
References: <149de47b36bf4e8c8e833c8f4912bfa3@SEHSTE15D2BE6.hs20.net>	<8B7A7D8F-B091-46F8-B839-F2864F3DBB53@elecraft.com>
	<EDA60710-E751-4F53-A3A6-C9D9D0522D10@mac.com>
Message-ID: <5589A149.6090502@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On Tue,6/23/2015 10:44 AM, Brian Hemmis wrote:
> David, Your friend states there are 2 dozen birdies on 6 meters with the antenna DISCONNECTED. This tells me nothing. Please tell him to connect a RESONANT 6 meter antenna to the radio then tell me how many birdies he hears.

It tells me a LOT. With no antenna connected and a 50 ohm resistor 
across the antenna input, I hear birdies on 6M from my station logging 
computer. That tells me that the K3 has a Pin One Problem on one or more 
of the dozen or so connectors to which I have cables connected -- DC 
power, Aux power out (for P3), audio I/O, mic, headphones, IF out to P3, 
RX antenna in, AUX antenna in, paddle, amplifier key line, AUX cable, 
and RS232 cable. With the antenna connected and pointed away from the 
shack, these birdies are at least 6 dB above band noise when the band is 
quiet.

This is in addition to the birdies generated within my K3s that move 
around as the main RX is tuned. Interestingly, I do NOT see birdies 
related to the SubRX. Those moving birdies are a real PITA -- I use the 
P3 to look for weak CW signals during double-hop E-skip openings, and 
those internally generated moving birdies look just like those weak CW 
signals. This greatly reduces the usefulness of the P3 on 6M. 
Installation of the new synth boards has not changed that. Although the 
preamp in the KXV3B may have reduced my noise level a bit, I had an 
outboard GasFET preamp before installing it, and heard the birdies with 
it too.

73, Jim K9YC

From k2av.guy at gmail.com  Tue Jun 23 14:16:42 2015
From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 14:16:42 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards
In-Reply-To: <EDA60710-E751-4F53-A3A6-C9D9D0522D10@mac.com>
References: <149de47b36bf4e8c8e833c8f4912bfa3@SEHSTE15D2BE6.hs20.net>
	<8B7A7D8F-B091-46F8-B839-F2864F3DBB53@elecraft.com>
	<EDA60710-E751-4F53-A3A6-C9D9D0522D10@mac.com>
Message-ID: <CANckpc2tnoFStTamexJT1WqwNr_niaktLqoemxTE9MqMm_BSoA@mail.gmail.com>

Yes indeed. Checking for birdies or any such with an unterminated antenna
jack is invalid. You can terminate with a dummy load, or more practically
with an antenna listening to normal band noise.

73, Guy K2AV

On Tuesday, June 23, 2015, Brian Hemmis <bhemmis at mac.com> wrote:

> David, Your friend states there are 2 dozen birdies on 6 meters with the
> antenna DISCONNECTED. This tells me nothing. Please tell him to connect a
> RESONANT 6 meter antenna to the radio then tell me how many birdies he
> hears.
> 73, Brian K3USC
>
>
> > On Jun 23, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > David,
> >
> > When we designed the K3S, we very carefully evaluated internally
> generated spurs on all bands. We found that the KSYN3 and KSYN3A had
> roughly the same number. This is consistent with both being high-level
> signal sources; you can't get rid of spurs entirely. All but a very few are
> masked by band noise, as well.
> >
> > 6 meters was no exception. Both the old and new synths show some spurs
> on this band, and we adjusted PLL divider ratios, etc., to minimize them.
> But the new synth -- in our tests -- doesn't have any more than the old. I
> use a pair of the new synths in my lab K3S, as well as the KXV3B, which
> includes premamp 2 (-145 dB MDS). I've had no problem with spurs on 6
> meters.
> >
> > In some cases, it could come down to how the cables are oriented. Make
> sure you're orienting the cables as described in the manual, and if you
> feel that you have excessive spurs, email customer support. If we come up
> with any improved cable routing, we'll post to the list.
> >
> > 73,
> > Wayne
> > N6KR
> >
> >
> > On Jun 23, 2015, at 8:52 AM, Dave G3WGN M6O <david at aslinvc.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> >> Is there anyone out there yet who has done a detailed study of 6m
> birdies with the new synth and either external or internal preamp?  A good
> friend with an early K3 is reluctant to upgrade to K3S as he hears a couple
> of dozen birdies on 6m with antenna disconnected.
> >> So how has this aspect of K3 performance evolved from early K3 (his is
> S/N sub-100) to the K3S?
> >> 73
> >> David G3WGN  M6O
> >> Member of the 6Gs team at E6GG in September 2015 www.e6gg.com<
> http://www.e6gg.com>
> >> Work us on as many bands as you can!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> View this message in context:
> http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/6m-birdies-and-K3S-and-or-new-synth-boards-tp7604211.html
> >> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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From david at aslinvc.com  Tue Jun 23 14:22:38 2015
From: david at aslinvc.com (David Aslin G3WGN)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:22:38 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards
In-Reply-To: <8B7A7D8F-B091-46F8-B839-F2864F3DBB53@elecraft.com>
References: <149de47b36bf4e8c8e833c8f4912bfa3@SEHSTE15D2BE6.hs20.net>,
	<8B7A7D8F-B091-46F8-B839-F2864F3DBB53@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <p8fymtaxe3ni59muntg3ndqp.1435083677940@email.android.com>

Thanks Wayne, that's helpful. Just want to be sure I've optimised 6m performance and passed on any suggestions to my buddy.
73 David G3WGN



Sent from my Samsung smart (ish) phone


-------- Original message --------
From: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
Date: 23/06/2015 19:39 (GMT+01:00)
To: David Aslin G3WGN <david at aslinvc.com>
Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards

David,

When we designed the K3S, we very carefully evaluated internally generated spurs on all bands. We found that the KSYN3 and KSYN3A had roughly the same number. This is consistent with both being high-level signal sources; you can't get rid of spurs entirely. All but a very few are masked by band noise, as well.

6 meters was no exception. Both the old and new synths show some spurs on this band, and we adjusted PLL divider ratios, etc., to minimize them. But the new synth -- in our tests -- doesn't have any more than the old. I use a pair of the new synths in my lab K3S, as well as the KXV3B, which includes premamp 2 (-145 dB MDS). I've had no problem with spurs on 6 meters.

In some cases, it could come down to how the cables are oriented. Make sure you're orienting the cables as described in the manual, and if you feel that you have excessive spurs, email customer support. If we come up with any improved cable routing, we'll post to the list.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jun 23, 2015, at 8:52 AM, Dave G3WGN M6O <david at aslinvc.com> wrote:

> Is there anyone out there yet who has done a detailed study of 6m birdies with the new synth and either external or internal preamp?  A good friend with an early K3 is reluctant to upgrade to K3S as he hears a couple of dozen birdies on 6m with antenna disconnected.
> So how has this aspect of K3 performance evolved from early K3 (his is S/N sub-100) to the K3S?
> 73
> David G3WGN  M6O
> Member of the 6Gs team at E6GG in September 2015 www.e6gg.com<http://www.e6gg.com>
> Work us on as many bands as you can!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/6m-birdies-and-K3S-and-or-new-synth-boards-tp7604211.html
> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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From david at aslinvc.com  Tue Jun 23 14:24:03 2015
From: david at aslinvc.com (David Aslin G3WGN)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:24:03 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards
In-Reply-To: <CANckpc2tnoFStTamexJT1WqwNr_niaktLqoemxTE9MqMm_BSoA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <149de47b36bf4e8c8e833c8f4912bfa3@SEHSTE15D2BE6.hs20.net>
	<8B7A7D8F-B091-46F8-B839-F2864F3DBB53@elecraft.com>
	<EDA60710-E751-4F53-A3A6-C9D9D0522D10@mac.com>,
	<CANckpc2tnoFStTamexJT1WqwNr_niaktLqoemxTE9MqMm_BSoA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2cxg6p9y3r0b7dvbfg96mar5.1435083842229@email.android.com>

Got it.
73 David G3WGN



Sent from my Samsung device


-------- Original message --------
From: Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av.guy at gmail.com>
Date: 23/06/2015 20:16 (GMT+01:00)
To: Brian Hemmis <bhemmis at mac.com>
Cc: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>, elecraft at mailman.qth.net, David Aslin G3WGN <david at aslinvc.com>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards

Yes indeed. Checking for birdies or any such with an unterminated antenna jack is invalid. You can terminate with a dummy load, or more practically with an antenna listening to normal band noise.

73, Guy K2AV

On Tuesday, June 23, 2015, Brian Hemmis <bhemmis at mac.com<mailto:bhemmis at mac.com>> wrote:
David, Your friend states there are 2 dozen birdies on 6 meters with the antenna DISCONNECTED. This tells me nothing. Please tell him to connect a RESONANT 6 meter antenna to the radio then tell me how many birdies he hears.
73, Brian K3USC


> On Jun 23, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
>
> David,
>
> When we designed the K3S, we very carefully evaluated internally generated spurs on all bands. We found that the KSYN3 and KSYN3A had roughly the same number. This is consistent with both being high-level signal sources; you can't get rid of spurs entirely. All but a very few are masked by band noise, as well.
>
> 6 meters was no exception. Both the old and new synths show some spurs on this band, and we adjusted PLL divider ratios, etc., to minimize them. But the new synth -- in our tests -- doesn't have any more than the old. I use a pair of the new synths in my lab K3S, as well as the KXV3B, which includes premamp 2 (-145 dB MDS). I've had no problem with spurs on 6 meters.
>
> In some cases, it could come down to how the cables are oriented. Make sure you're orienting the cables as described in the manual, and if you feel that you have excessive spurs, email customer support. If we come up with any improved cable routing, we'll post to the list.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> On Jun 23, 2015, at 8:52 AM, Dave G3WGN M6O <david at aslinvc.com> wrote:
>
>> Is there anyone out there yet who has done a detailed study of 6m birdies with the new synth and either external or internal preamp?  A good friend with an early K3 is reluctant to upgrade to K3S as he hears a couple of dozen birdies on 6m with antenna disconnected.
>> So how has this aspect of K3 performance evolved from early K3 (his is S/N sub-100) to the K3S?
>> 73
>> David G3WGN  M6O
>> Member of the 6Gs team at E6GG in September 2015 www.e6gg.com<http://www.e6gg.com><http://www.e6gg.com>
>> Work us on as many bands as you can!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/6m-birdies-and-K3S-and-or-new-synth-boards-tp7604211.html
>> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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From rclark01 at comcast.net  Tue Jun 23 14:42:00 2015
From: rclark01 at comcast.net (rclark01 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:42:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] CW Filter and Roofing Filter
In-Reply-To: <137553575.37113897.1435084593632.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1198391591.37117770.1435084920130.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>

Hi all: 
I currently own a Yaesu FT-950 and am considering selling it to move the the Elecraft K3S line. My question is about filters. My FT-950 has a roofing filter and a variable CW filter down to 200hz. Quite frankly, I can't tell much different when I switch in the roofing filter but the variable CW filter makes a big difference. I also have a 1970's TenTen Century 21 which has a 500Hz filter that, to me, seems to do a better job than the FT-950. So..when I read that a 500 Hz roofing filter is an option for the Elecraft K3S, what am I actually reading? Could there be a 500Hz roofing filter and a 500Hz CW filter or are they the same? In several Youtube videos, I've seen operators using the variable width the filter signals. What am I seeing? Are they adjusting the roofing filter or the cw filter? And...is the cw filter variable (like my FT-950) or fixed (like the Century 21)? 
Thanks! 

Robert NJ4j 

From n6kr at elecraft.com  Tue Jun 23 14:56:51 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:56:51 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] CW Filter and Roofing Filter
In-Reply-To: <1198391591.37117770.1435084920130.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>
References: <1198391591.37117770.1435084920130.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <45D24FC9-E863-4322-89B3-E66A793EA5B4@elecraft.com>

Hi Robert,

For best overall performance in CW mode with the K3S, I suggest using our 400-Hz 8-pole filter. The 250-Hz 8-pole filter is a further optimization, with very steep skirts to help with close-in QRM. 5-pole filters are also available but they won't have as steep skirts. (The 500-Hz 5-pole is not appreciably wider than the 400-Hz 8-pole.)

With either filter selected, high-performance, variable-bandwidth DSP filtering is applied within the crystal filter passband. As you adjust the bandpass controls, the K3S will automatically select the right crystal filter. The DSP filtering can go to as narrow as 50 Hz, and as wide as the widest crystal filter installed that is compatible with CW mode (up to 2.8 kHz, another one of our 8-pole filters.)

In addition, the DSP also provides a switchable audio peaking filter in CW mode (APF). This is a special filter type that can make signals very close to noise floor seem to emerge from the noise ("magically," some have said), without adding the ringing associated with traditional "brick-wall" filters. 

Other weapons in the K3S's weak-signal arsenal include CW REVerse mode, DSP and IF noise blankers, noise reduction, and both auto- and manual notch.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



On Jun 23, 2015, at 11:42 AM, rclark01 at comcast.net wrote:

> Hi all: 
> I currently own a Yaesu FT-950 and am considering selling it to move the the Elecraft K3S line. My question is about filters. My FT-950 has a roofing filter and a variable CW filter down to 200hz. Quite frankly, I can't tell much different when I switch in the roofing filter but the variable CW filter makes a big difference. I also have a 1970's TenTen Century 21 which has a 500Hz filter that, to me, seems to do a better job than the FT-950. So..when I read that a 500 Hz roofing filter is an option for the Elecraft K3S, what am I actually reading? Could there be a 500Hz roofing filter and a 500Hz CW filter or are they the same? In several Youtube videos, I've seen operators using the variable width the filter signals. What am I seeing? Are they adjusting the roofing filter or the cw filter? And...is the cw filter variable (like my FT-950) or fixed (like the Century 21)? 
> Thanks! 
> 
> Robert NJ4j 
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From netcrusher88 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 23 15:35:51 2015
From: netcrusher88 at gmail.com (Amy Wilhelm)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:35:51 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 + SignaLink USB noise problems
Message-ID: <CACH_UoEPx_422ZxfWHRgkn4JCXEOkCweKL015WHvuf38ydn-Sg@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, it's another post about that little interface we all love to hate...

I went through archives and didn't find anything that *quite* matched
this, so I wanted to know if anyone's experienced it or has tips.

Aside from the widely reported high noise floor (it *seems* to be
possible to just crank the RX volume to get past that a little) I have
a couple of symptoms that are...strange at best:

1. If I have the KX3 connected to my laptop via the KX3USB cable to
ACC1, and then attach the Signalink to a different USB port, I
immediately experience broadband noise. Changing the IF doesn't seem
to help this, and I seem to be tuning past peaks of noise all across
the band. If I detach the Signalink, most of these symptoms go away (I
think some of the peaks are just out there).

2. The Signalink seems to be radiating a significant amount of QRM -
or the cables connected to it (but not necessarily to the KX3) are.
Because I use an Alexloop, my antenna is always right next to my
laptop, interface, radio, all that fun noisy stuff. Conveniently
magloops have this great null directly perpendicular, so I've worked
out that turning my antenna perpendicular to the Signalink - not
necessarily my laptop or radio - reduces the noise floor significantly
(both wideband noise and weird little blips every 150 Hz or so). I'm
not actually sure at the moment whether I've checked if unplugging my
Signalink makes a big difference, but evidence would suggest I should
try that.

This is all with the KX3 operating off of a gel cell (so no QRM
there), the Signalink with the official KX3 snap-in jumper board and
cables, a Macbook Air running from its internal battery, an Alexloop,
and the included KX3USB cable.

Any help would be much appreciated - I've seen the page suggesting
some mods to the Signalink and I'm more than willing to do those if
those would help with the symptoms I've been seeing here, but wanted
to check if anyone thought that was reasonable (and that my diagnosis
is) first.

73
Amy Wilhelm
WN5FIZ

From bsusb at k5dkz.com  Tue Jun 23 17:01:45 2015
From: bsusb at k5dkz.com (bs usb)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:01:45 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 + SignaLink USB noise problems
In-Reply-To: <CACH_UoEPx_422ZxfWHRgkn4JCXEOkCweKL015WHvuf38ydn-Sg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACH_UoEPx_422ZxfWHRgkn4JCXEOkCweKL015WHvuf38ydn-Sg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5589C939.2050103@k5dkz.com>

With the I/Q output from the KX3 and fldigi software on the Mac why do 
you even fool with signal-link?

Amy Wilhelm wrote:
> Yes, it's another post about that little interface we all love to hate...
>
> I went through archives and didn't find anything that *quite* matched
> this, so I wanted to know if anyone's experienced it or has tips.
>
> Aside from the widely reported high noise floor (it *seems* to be
> possible to just crank the RX volume to get past that a little) I have
> a couple of symptoms that are...strange at best:
>
> 1. If I have the KX3 connected to my laptop via the KX3USB cable to
> ACC1, and then attach the Signalink to a different USB port, I
> immediately experience broadband noise. Changing the IF doesn't seem
> to help this, and I seem to be tuning past peaks of noise all across
> the band. If I detach the Signalink, most of these symptoms go away (I
> think some of the peaks are just out there).
>
> 2. The Signalink seems to be radiating a significant amount of QRM -
> or the cables connected to it (but not necessarily to the KX3) are.
> Because I use an Alexloop, my antenna is always right next to my
> laptop, interface, radio, all that fun noisy stuff. Conveniently
> magloops have this great null directly perpendicular, so I've worked
> out that turning my antenna perpendicular to the Signalink - not
> necessarily my laptop or radio - reduces the noise floor significantly
> (both wideband noise and weird little blips every 150 Hz or so). I'm
> not actually sure at the moment whether I've checked if unplugging my
> Signalink makes a big difference, but evidence would suggest I should
> try that.
>
> This is all with the KX3 operating off of a gel cell (so no QRM
> there), the Signalink with the official KX3 snap-in jumper board and
> cables, a Macbook Air running from its internal battery, an Alexloop,
> and the included KX3USB cable.
>
> Any help would be much appreciated - I've seen the page suggesting
> some mods to the Signalink and I'm more than willing to do those if
> those would help with the symptoms I've been seeing here, but wanted
> to check if anyone thought that was reasonable (and that my diagnosis
> is) first.
>
> 73
> Amy Wilhelm
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From k2av.guy at gmail.com  Tue Jun 23 16:26:08 2015
From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 16:26:08 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] CW Filter and Roofing Filter
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Hi Robert,

K3(S) operators often set the DSP bandwidth to the roofing filter width
having bought the filter with operating at that bandwidth in mind. However
the DSP bandwidth is variable. As this is varied the radio will use the
roofer equal to or next larger than the DSP bandwidth.

Operating a K3(S) roofing filter and DSP with coinciding skirts produces
exceptional quick rejection of close interference, which is very useful
"running" in a contest, particularly on CW.

Hope this helps.

73, Guy K2AV

On Tuesday, June 23, 2015, <rclark01 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi all:
> I currently own a Yaesu FT-950 and am considering selling it to move the
> the Elecraft K3S line. My question is about filters. My FT-950 has a
> roofing filter and a variable CW filter down to 200hz. Quite frankly, I
> can't tell much different when I switch in the roofing filter but the
> variable CW filter makes a big difference. I also have a 1970's TenTen
> Century 21 which has a 500Hz filter that, to me, seems to do a better job
> than the FT-950. So..when I read that a 500 Hz roofing filter is an option
> for the Elecraft K3S, what am I actually reading? Could there be a 500Hz
> roofing filter and a 500Hz CW filter or are they the same? In several
> Youtube videos, I've seen operators using the variable width the filter
> signals. What am I seeing? Are they adjusting the roofing filter or the cw
> filter? And...is the cw filter variable (like my FT-950) or fixed (like the
> Century 21)?
> Thanks!
>
> Robert NJ4j
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From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Tue Jun 23 16:55:46 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 16:55:46 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] CW Filter and Roofing Filter
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Message-ID: <5589C7D2.4080503@embarqmail.com>

Robert,

Actually there is no good comparison with either your Yaesu or the TenTec.
The DSP sets the ultimate signal bandwidth and is continuously variable 
from greater than 2.8kHz down to 50 Hz.  There is no specific CW 
filter.  Adjust for a width that is appropriate for your mode, band 
conditions and your personal choice of a good filter width.

That leaves the question of the roofing filter(s) unanswered.  The K3 
(or K3S) will work with only the stock 2.7kHz or the 8 pole 2.8kHz 
filter - you must have one or the other in the K3.
Other roofing filters may be desirable in your K3 when you are working 
in crowded band conditions where there may be strong nearby signals that 
are outside your DSP filter, yet are within the passband of the roofing 
filter - in other words, you may not hear them.  Those strong signals 
will activate the hardware AGC (which is there mainly to protect the A 
to D converter from overload).  If those signals activate the Hdwr AGC, 
you will hear "AGC Pumping" in the receiver and the receiver sensitivity 
will be reduced when that strong signal transmits.
The cure for the effects above is to add narrow roofing filters to 
reduce the K3 response to those nearby strong signals.  The roofing 
filters are automatically switched in as you narrow the DSP filter 
bandwidth.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/23/2015 2:42 PM, rclark01 at comcast.net wrote:
> Hi all:
> I currently own a Yaesu FT-950 and am considering selling it to move the the Elecraft K3S line. My question is about filters. My FT-950 has a roofing filter and a variable CW filter down to 200hz. Quite frankly, I can't tell much different when I switch in the roofing filter but the variable CW filter makes a big difference. I also have a 1970's TenTen Century 21 which has a 500Hz filter that, to me, seems to do a better job than the FT-950. So..when I read that a 500 Hz roofing filter is an option for the Elecraft K3S, what am I actually reading? Could there be a 500Hz roofing filter and a 500Hz CW filter or are they the same? In several Youtube videos, I've seen operators using the variable width the filter signals. What am I seeing? Are they adjusting the roofing filter or the cw filter? And...is the cw filter variable (like my FT-950) or fixed (like the Century 21)?
>


From nf4l at comcast.net  Tue Jun 23 18:02:10 2015
From: nf4l at comcast.net (Mike Reublin NF4L)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:02:10 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S config file
In-Reply-To: <B0D5B874-B5DF-420A-B8F5-E74904C728B7@comcast.net>
References: <5586F735.3020308@nc.rr.com>
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	<B0D5B874-B5DF-420A-B8F5-E74904C728B7@comcast.net>
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Over....

> On Jun 22, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L <nf4l at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I'm confused. I was with Harlan, that a config file from another serial number wouldn't load. Has something changed with the K3S? How about K3 to K3?
> 
> 73, Mike NF4L
> 
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes. However, on restore of the configuration file to the K3S, K3 Utility will warn you that you're using a config file from a rig with a different serial number. You'll also probably need to tweak a few settings after the restore, since the K3S will have some new hardware.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 21, 2015, at 10:41 AM, brian <alsopb at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Can one use a config file from a K3 as a starting point in configuring a K3s?   Years of tinkering with a K3 resulted in a configuration I wouldn't want to loose.
>>> 
>>> 73 de Brian/K3KO
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From eric at elecraft.com  Tue Jun 23 18:10:44 2015
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:10:44 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S - have initial shipments begun?
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The K3S is just beginning to ship starting today and tomorrow. It will be slow for the first week and will then accelerate as we get them rolling in production. 

We had a very large number of K3S orders on the first several days, so we'll be shipping those for at the next 2-3 weeks.

We will update the shipping status page by tomorrow with the latest status.

On another note, we have caught up with all of the KSYN3a upgrade orders! New orders should ship in 1-3 business days after order.

73,
Eric
elecraft.com
_..._



> On Jun 22, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Dick via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> Wondering if initial shipments of the new K3S have begun?  If not,  please 
> advise the target date?
> 
> 73,
> Dick- K9OM
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From edwest at sisqtel.net  Tue Jun 23 18:56:05 2015
From: edwest at sisqtel.net (Ed)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:56:05 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 + SignaLink USB noise problems
Message-ID: <5589E405.8090108@sisqtel.net>

The Signalink needs help.  Take a look at K7SFN's Web Site for some 
information on what is needed.  We did some research and came up with 
some mods that make a world of difference.

The previous post also is good advice.

Ed

From k6dgw at foothill.net  Tue Jun 23 19:22:29 2015
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 16:22:29 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] CW Filter and Roofing Filter
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Robert, I don't think you can make the comparison as you suggest, very 
different radios.  I don't remember when the term "roofing filter" 
entered the ham vocabulary but it has caused a lot of confusion, some 
angst, and possibly some over-buying of filters.

In the K3 and K3S, the bandwidth that you actually hear in your 
headphones or speaker is set by the DSP with the WIDTH knob.  It's 
essentially a brick-wall filter, built with binary arithmetic.  If the 
signal is not inside the passband, you don't hear it.

Our bands are full of signals, some very strong which will activate the 
hardware AGC and reduce the level of *all* signals at the input to the 
ADC ... including the one weak one you're listening to.  All the roofing 
filter does is restrict the BW of the energy applied to the ADC to 
exclude most of the other signals on the band.  I'm not at all surprised 
that you don't notice much effect from the 1st IF filter, you won't 
unless there are very strong signals that will activate the AGC.

Matching the roofer BW and DSP BW offers a small benefit since two 
filters are cascaded.  But, since the roofers are not adjustable, you 
have to find a happy compromise for your operating style.  My K3 came 
with a 2.7 KHz 5-pole filter for SSB and I added a 500 Hz for CW. 
That's all I have.  I contest some [not anywhere near hard core], nearly 
all CW, and I operate casually, nearly always at 250 or 200 Hz DSP BW. 
For SSB, I usually run the DSP BW at 2.1 KHz, that's what the Collins 
mech filter was in my S-Line and I'm used to the sound.  I've never 
noticed a strong signal, outside the DSP BW but inside the roofer 
activate the K3's hardware AGC.  Now, you asked questions ...

"When I read that a 500 Hz roofing filter is an option for the Elecraft 
K3S, what am I actually reading?"

Elecraft offers a 500 Hz filter [and maybe a 250 Hz] for narrow-band 
modes which will restrict the BW of the energy presented to the ADC.  If 
you operate CW or other narrow-band modes a lot, I think it's a good 
buy.  If you're mainly a phone guy, you might not ever encounter a 
situation where it would make a difference.  I think the filters are 
really Inrads, I had a 250 Hz Inrad in a TS-850, and it was pretty "ringey."

"Could there be a 500Hz roofing filter and a 500Hz CW filter
or are they the same?"

K3?  If so, no, they are not the same if "500Hz CW filter" means what 
you set in the DSP.  You can have a 500 Hz roofer, I do.  You can set 
the DSP BW on CW to 500 Hz [you can set it much wider than that in 
fact].  The K3 will select the 500 Hz roofer, and you'll have two 
cascaded filters.  Keep in mind, the roofers are analog crystal filters, 
not adjustable.   They are nominally xxxx Hz wide, but the skirts are 
not vertical.

"In several Youtube videos, I've seen operators using the variable width 
the filter signals. What am I seeing?"

If they're using a K3, they're adjusting the DSP WIDTH control.

"is the cw filter variable (like my FT-950) or fixed (like the Century 21)?"

There is no "CW" filter in a K3/K3S.  There is a roofing filter that 
restricts the BW going into the ADC, and there is a DSP filter 
controlled by knobs on the front panel which can be set to anything 
within its range, regardless of operating mode.  The roofer isn't 
adjustable.  The knobs do the same thing whether your listening to CW, 
RTTY, PSK31, SSB, or anything else.

Small exception to the above:  Separate from the roofing and DSP 
filters, the K3/K3S has a switchable [on/off] audio peaking filter for 
CW.  It too is done in binary arithmetic, is totally separate and only 
good for CW, and under some conditions it can render an unreadable 
signal quite readable.

Hope this helps,

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org


> On 6/23/2015 2:42 PM, rclark01 at comcast.net wrote:
>> Hi all:
>> I currently own a Yaesu FT-950 and am considering selling it to move
>> the the Elecraft K3S line. My question is about filters. My FT-950 has
>> a roofing filter and a variable CW filter down to 200hz. Quite
>> frankly, I can't tell much different when I switch in the roofing
>> filter but the variable CW filter makes a big difference. I also have
>> a 1970's TenTen Century 21 which has a 500Hz filter that, to me, seems
>> to do a better job than the FT-950. So..when I read that a 500 Hz
>> roofing filter is an option for the Elecraft K3S, what am I actually
>> reading? Could there be a 500Hz roofing filter and a 500Hz CW filter
>> or are they the same? In several Youtube videos, I've seen operators
>> using the variable width the filter signals. What am I seeing? Are
>> they adjusting the roofing filter or the cw filter? And...is the cw
>> filter variable (like my FT-950) or fixed (like the Century 21)?


From nf4l at comcast.net  Tue Jun 23 19:31:10 2015
From: nf4l at comcast.net (Mike Reublin NF4L)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:31:10 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S config file
In-Reply-To: <B0D5B874-B5DF-420A-B8F5-E74904C728B7@comcast.net>
References: <5586F735.3020308@nc.rr.com>
	<67AC1281-C448-4B02-B123-5E3E44382D41@elecraft.com>
	<B0D5B874-B5DF-420A-B8F5-E74904C728B7@comcast.net>
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I found this on Nabble. Wayne?

No. Some of what is saved is rig-specific VCO calibration data 

Dick, K6KR 

73, Mike NF4L


> On Jun 22, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L <nf4l at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I'm confused. I was with Harlan, that a config file from another serial number wouldn't load. Has something changed with the K3S? How about K3 to K3?
> 
> 73, Mike NF4L
> 
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes. However, on restore of the configuration file to the K3S, K3 Utility will warn you that you're using a config file from a rig with a different serial number. You'll also probably need to tweak a few settings after the restore, since the K3S will have some new hardware.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 21, 2015, at 10:41 AM, brian <alsopb at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Can one use a config file from a K3 as a starting point in configuring a K3s?   Years of tinkering with a K3 resulted in a configuration I wouldn't want to loose.
>>> 
>>> 73 de Brian/K3KO
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Tue Jun 23 19:42:18 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 16:42:18 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S config file
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References: <5586F735.3020308@nc.rr.com>
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Correction--we do this during troubleshooting at the factory on occasion, but you should not do it at  home. Sorry about that. 

Wayne
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> On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:31 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L <nf4l at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I found this on Nabble. Wayne?
> 
> No. Some of what is saved is rig-specific VCO calibration data 
> 
> Dick, K6KR 
> 
> 73, Mike NF4L
> 
> 
>> On Jun 22, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L <nf4l at comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm confused. I was with Harlan, that a config file from another serial number wouldn't load. Has something changed with the K3S? How about K3 to K3?
>> 
>> 73, Mike NF4L
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 21, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes. However, on restore of the configuration file to the K3S, K3 Utility will warn you that you're using a config file from a rig with a different serial number. You'll also probably need to tweak a few settings after the restore, since the K3S will have some new hardware.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 21, 2015, at 10:41 AM, brian <alsopb at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Can one use a config file from a K3 as a starting point in configuring a K3s?   Years of tinkering with a K3 resulted in a configuration I wouldn't want to loose.
>>>> 
>>>> 73 de Brian/K3KO
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From nf4l at comcast.net  Tue Jun 23 19:51:03 2015
From: nf4l at comcast.net (Mike Reublin NF4L)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:51:03 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S config file
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Thanks, Wayne.

73, Mike NF4L


> On Jun 23, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
> 
> Correction--we do this during troubleshooting at the factory on occasion, but you should not do it at  home. Sorry about that. 
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
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>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:31 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L <nf4l at comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I found this on Nabble. Wayne?
>> 
>> No. Some of what is saved is rig-specific VCO calibration data 
>> 
>> Dick, K6KR 
>> 
>> 73, Mike NF4L
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L <nf4l at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm confused. I was with Harlan, that a config file from another serial number wouldn't load. Has something changed with the K3S? How about K3 to K3?
>>> 
>>> 73, Mike NF4L
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 21, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes. However, on restore of the configuration file to the K3S, K3 Utility will warn you that you're using a config file from a rig with a different serial number. You'll also probably need to tweak a few settings after the restore, since the K3S will have some new hardware.
>>>> 
>>>> Wayne
>>>> N6KR
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 21, 2015, at 10:41 AM, brian <alsopb at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can one use a config file from a K3 as a starting point in configuring a K3s?   Years of tinkering with a K3 resulted in a configuration I wouldn't want to loose.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73 de Brian/K3KO
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From k3ndm at comcast.net  Tue Jun 23 20:18:09 2015
From: k3ndm at comcast.net (k3ndm at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 00:18:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 + SignaLink USB noise problems
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References: <CACH_UoEPx_422ZxfWHRgkn4JCXEOkCweKL015WHvuf38ydn-Sg@mail.gmail.com>
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Guys, 
Two things. First, you can't use the I&Q data on the KX3 to transmit and I'm not really sure you can use it with FLDIGI; I believe FLDIGI only expects audio. And second, I'm not sure why you need to use ACC1. The only connections you should need to use is to the KX3 mic and the USB connector for the SignaLink. The SignaLink will key the radio with out needing other connections. This may help some of the noise problem. 

73, 
Barry 
K3NDM 

----- Original Message -----

From: "bs usb" <bsusb at k5dkz.com> 
To: "elecraft" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 5:01:45 PM 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 + SignaLink USB noise problems 

With the I/Q output from the KX3 and fldigi software on the Mac why do 
you even fool with signal-link? 

Amy Wilhelm wrote: 
> Yes, it's another post about that little interface we all love to hate... 
> 
> I went through archives and didn't find anything that *quite* matched 
> this, so I wanted to know if anyone's experienced it or has tips. 
> 
> Aside from the widely reported high noise floor (it *seems* to be 
> possible to just crank the RX volume to get past that a little) I have 
> a couple of symptoms that are...strange at best: 
> 
> 1. If I have the KX3 connected to my laptop via the KX3USB cable to 
> ACC1, and then attach the Signalink to a different USB port, I 
> immediately experience broadband noise. Changing the IF doesn't seem 
> to help this, and I seem to be tuning past peaks of noise all across 
> the band. If I detach the Signalink, most of these symptoms go away (I 
> think some of the peaks are just out there). 
> 
> 2. The Signalink seems to be radiating a significant amount of QRM - 
> or the cables connected to it (but not necessarily to the KX3) are. 
> Because I use an Alexloop, my antenna is always right next to my 
> laptop, interface, radio, all that fun noisy stuff. Conveniently 
> magloops have this great null directly perpendicular, so I've worked 
> out that turning my antenna perpendicular to the Signalink - not 
> necessarily my laptop or radio - reduces the noise floor significantly 
> (both wideband noise and weird little blips every 150 Hz or so). I'm 
> not actually sure at the moment whether I've checked if unplugging my 
> Signalink makes a big difference, but evidence would suggest I should 
> try that. 
> 
> This is all with the KX3 operating off of a gel cell (so no QRM 
> there), the Signalink with the official KX3 snap-in jumper board and 
> cables, a Macbook Air running from its internal battery, an Alexloop, 
> and the included KX3USB cable. 
> 
> Any help would be much appreciated - I've seen the page suggesting 
> some mods to the Signalink and I'm more than willing to do those if 
> those would help with the symptoms I've been seeing here, but wanted 
> to check if anyone thought that was reasonable (and that my diagnosis 
> is) first. 
> 
> 73 
> Amy Wilhelm 
> WN5FIZ 
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From radioman at wideopenwest.com  Tue Jun 23 20:35:33 2015
From: radioman at wideopenwest.com (Richard)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 20:35:33 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 down low.
Message-ID: <012601d0ae15$ae6d0170$0b470450$@wideopenwest.com>

  Got and installed the sync board, anxious for the mod or whatever to
further improve down low receive.

If it works as I expect I'll have at least one radio for sale to buy more
Elecraft stuff !  I hope I haven't missed any developments.

 
Anything ? 

 

                                             Rich Line KC8HMJ


From n6kr at elecraft.com  Tue Jun 23 20:40:09 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 17:40:09 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 down low.
In-Reply-To: <012601d0ae15$ae6d0170$0b470450$@wideopenwest.com>
References: <012601d0ae15$ae6d0170$0b470450$@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <BB9E66EC-B941-4614-8B38-D784104255B1@elecraft.com>

Hi Rich,

We should be putting the mod kit for 100-500 kHz receive on our web site in the next day or two.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jun 23, 2015, at 5:35 PM, "Richard" <radioman at wideopenwest.com> wrote:

>  Got and installed the sync board, anxious for the mod or whatever to
> further improve down low receive.
> 
> If it works as I expect I'll have at least one radio for sale to buy more
> Elecraft stuff !  I hope I haven't missed any developments.
> 
> 
> Anything ? 
> 
> 
> 
>                                             Rich Line KC8HMJ
> 
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From netcrusher88 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 23 20:45:01 2015
From: netcrusher88 at gmail.com (Amy Wilhelm)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 17:45:01 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 + SignaLink USB noise problems
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Yeah, fldigi doesn't seem to know what to do with I/Q. Yet. 

CAT control isn't strictly necessary. But it's nice to have with fldigi, WSJT, and various logging software. 

73
Amy
K3ISI (granted today)

Sent from infinite squirrels at infinite keyboards

> On Jun 23, 2015, at 5:18 PM, k3ndm at comcast.net wrote:
> 
> Guys, 
> Two things. First, you can't use the I&Q data on the KX3 to transmit and I'm not really sure you can use it with FLDIGI; I believe FLDIGI only expects audio. And second, I'm not sure why you need to use ACC1. The only connections you should need to use is to the KX3 mic and the USB connector for the SignaLink. The SignaLink will key the radio with out needing other connections. This may help some of the noise problem. 
> 
> 73, 
> Barry 
> K3NDM 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: "bs usb" <bsusb at k5dkz.com> 
> To: "elecraft" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 5:01:45 PM 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 + SignaLink USB noise problems 
> 
> With the I/Q output from the KX3 and fldigi software on the Mac why do 
> you even fool with signal-link? 
> 
> Amy Wilhelm wrote: 
>> Yes, it's another post about that little interface we all love to hate... 
>> 
>> I went through archives and didn't find anything that *quite* matched 
>> this, so I wanted to know if anyone's experienced it or has tips. 
>> 
>> Aside from the widely reported high noise floor (it *seems* to be 
>> possible to just crank the RX volume to get past that a little) I have 
>> a couple of symptoms that are...strange at best: 
>> 
>> 1. If I have the KX3 connected to my laptop via the KX3USB cable to 
>> ACC1, and then attach the Signalink to a different USB port, I 
>> immediately experience broadband noise. Changing the IF doesn't seem 
>> to help this, and I seem to be tuning past peaks of noise all across 
>> the band. If I detach the Signalink, most of these symptoms go away (I 
>> think some of the peaks are just out there). 
>> 
>> 2. The Signalink seems to be radiating a significant amount of QRM - 
>> or the cables connected to it (but not necessarily to the KX3) are. 
>> Because I use an Alexloop, my antenna is always right next to my 
>> laptop, interface, radio, all that fun noisy stuff. Conveniently 
>> magloops have this great null directly perpendicular, so I've worked 
>> out that turning my antenna perpendicular to the Signalink - not 
>> necessarily my laptop or radio - reduces the noise floor significantly 
>> (both wideband noise and weird little blips every 150 Hz or so). I'm 
>> not actually sure at the moment whether I've checked if unplugging my 
>> Signalink makes a big difference, but evidence would suggest I should 
>> try that. 
>> 
>> This is all with the KX3 operating off of a gel cell (so no QRM 
>> there), the Signalink with the official KX3 snap-in jumper board and 
>> cables, a Macbook Air running from its internal battery, an Alexloop, 
>> and the included KX3USB cable. 
>> 
>> Any help would be much appreciated - I've seen the page suggesting 
>> some mods to the Signalink and I'm more than willing to do those if 
>> those would help with the symptoms I've been seeing here, but wanted 
>> to check if anyone thought that was reasonable (and that my diagnosis 
>> is) first. 
>> 
>> 73 
>> Amy Wilhelm 
>> WN5FIZ 
>> ______________________________________________________________ 
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From netcrusher88 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 23 21:36:32 2015
From: netcrusher88 at gmail.com (Amy Wilhelm)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:36:32 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 + SignaLink USB noise problems
In-Reply-To: <0F3739F5-801A-4FD8-818D-531726F596C9@gmail.com>
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Having performed further science, here?s what I?ve got:

1. When the Signalink is connected to my laptop but not the KX3, nothing special.
2. When the Signalink is connected to my KX3 (mic jack so I could monitor the receive audio), broadband noise.
2a. in this instance, noise is quieted by placing my hand on or near the Signalink.
3. When the Signalink is connected to my laptop but not the KX3 *and* the KX3USB is connected to my KX3, broadband noise.
3a. in this instance, noise is louder when I put my hand on or near the Signalink.
4. When the Signalink is connected to my laptop and the KX3 and the KX3USB cable is connected to my KX3, a very small amount of (equally broadband) noise.

This seems distinctly ungood if a little messing with capacitance causes that.

All of these seem to be radiated either by the Signalink itself or by a cable connected to it - ?course, that could include the USB cables and the laptop as well. Whenever I turned the null on my antenna towards their general direction, the noise got quieter (but was still strong enough to be bothersome).

Gonna try those mods as soon as my order from Mouser gets here. Crossing my fingers it?s by Field Day.

73
Amy
K3ISI

> On Jun 23, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Amy Wilhelm <netcrusher88 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, fldigi doesn't seem to know what to do with I/Q. Yet. 
> 
> CAT control isn't strictly necessary. But it's nice to have with fldigi, WSJT, and various logging software. 
> 
> 73
> Amy
> K3ISI (granted today)
> 
> Sent from infinite squirrels at infinite keyboards
> 
>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 5:18 PM, k3ndm at comcast.net wrote:
>> 
>> Guys, 
>> Two things. First, you can't use the I&Q data on the KX3 to transmit and I'm not really sure you can use it with FLDIGI; I believe FLDIGI only expects audio. And second, I'm not sure why you need to use ACC1. The only connections you should need to use is to the KX3 mic and the USB connector for the SignaLink. The SignaLink will key the radio with out needing other connections. This may help some of the noise problem. 
>> 
>> 73, 
>> Barry 
>> K3NDM 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> 
>> From: "bs usb" <bsusb at k5dkz.com> 
>> To: "elecraft" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 5:01:45 PM 
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 + SignaLink USB noise problems 
>> 
>> With the I/Q output from the KX3 and fldigi software on the Mac why do 
>> you even fool with signal-link? 
>> 
>> Amy Wilhelm wrote: 
>>> Yes, it's another post about that little interface we all love to hate... 
>>> 
>>> I went through archives and didn't find anything that *quite* matched 
>>> this, so I wanted to know if anyone's experienced it or has tips. 
>>> 
>>> Aside from the widely reported high noise floor (it *seems* to be 
>>> possible to just crank the RX volume to get past that a little) I have 
>>> a couple of symptoms that are...strange at best: 
>>> 
>>> 1. If I have the KX3 connected to my laptop via the KX3USB cable to 
>>> ACC1, and then attach the Signalink to a different USB port, I 
>>> immediately experience broadband noise. Changing the IF doesn't seem 
>>> to help this, and I seem to be tuning past peaks of noise all across 
>>> the band. If I detach the Signalink, most of these symptoms go away (I 
>>> think some of the peaks are just out there). 
>>> 
>>> 2. The Signalink seems to be radiating a significant amount of QRM - 
>>> or the cables connected to it (but not necessarily to the KX3) are. 
>>> Because I use an Alexloop, my antenna is always right next to my 
>>> laptop, interface, radio, all that fun noisy stuff. Conveniently 
>>> magloops have this great null directly perpendicular, so I've worked 
>>> out that turning my antenna perpendicular to the Signalink - not 
>>> necessarily my laptop or radio - reduces the noise floor significantly 
>>> (both wideband noise and weird little blips every 150 Hz or so). I'm 
>>> not actually sure at the moment whether I've checked if unplugging my 
>>> Signalink makes a big difference, but evidence would suggest I should 
>>> try that. 
>>> 
>>> This is all with the KX3 operating off of a gel cell (so no QRM 
>>> there), the Signalink with the official KX3 snap-in jumper board and 
>>> cables, a Macbook Air running from its internal battery, an Alexloop, 
>>> and the included KX3USB cable. 
>>> 
>>> Any help would be much appreciated - I've seen the page suggesting 
>>> some mods to the Signalink and I'm more than willing to do those if 
>>> those would help with the symptoms I've been seeing here, but wanted 
>>> to check if anyone thought that was reasonable (and that my diagnosis 
>>> is) first. 
>>> 
>>> 73 
>>> Amy Wilhelm 
>>> WN5FIZ 
>>> ______________________________________________________________ 
>>> Elecraft mailing list 
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From kc6cnn at gmail.com  Tue Jun 23 21:47:19 2015
From: kc6cnn at gmail.com (KC6CNN)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:47:19 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Reports of intermit bad audio
In-Reply-To: <1434862468176-7604142.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1434862468176-7604142.post@n2.nabble.com>
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I am happy to report that my awesome audio is back. 
Thank you Howard, Wayne, and Eric for your outstanding customer service. 
All is great with my K3 now. 
It still amazes me and it floored a couple of other hams that were here in
my shack when Wayne returned my e-mail. They were like " That is one of the
owners", I was like yeah. They could not believe that a simple guy like me
could get one of the owners to e-mail me back. I laughed and told them that
I had exchanged e-mails with both owners and had even spoken to them on the
phone. 
One of the hams laughed and said yeah try that with any of the big three.
Then said he believed he was going to sell his radio and purchase a new K3.
I explained the new K3s to him and told him he would not miss the old radio. 
Got off subject here sorry. 
Thanks again Elecraft for the outstanding Customer Service. 
Thank you
Gerald Manthey - KC6CNN




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From k6dgw at foothill.net  Tue Jun 23 21:53:40 2015
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:53:40 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 + SignaLink USB noise problems
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Amy,

Why don't you try 2 stereo cables between your laptop and KX3, all 
audio.  I'd suggest Radio Shack except RS es mort.  Others have 
suggested ditching the SL, it isn't much of a sound card and does have 
some RFI problems, so start simple.  You can decide about the SL later.

Two RS stereo cables have been my digi interface, always has, works 
great, lasts a long time.  It's probably not the absolute best, but it 
works.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org

On 6/23/2015 6:36 PM, Amy Wilhelm wrote:
> Having performed further science, here?s what I?ve got:
>
> 1. When the Signalink is connected to my laptop but not the KX3, nothing special.
> 2. When the Signalink is connected to my KX3 (mic jack so I could monitor the receive audio), broadband noise.
> 2a. in this instance, noise is quieted by placing my hand on or near the Signalink.
> 3. When the Signalink is connected to my laptop but not the KX3 *and* the KX3USB is connected to my KX3, broadband noise.
> 3a. in this instance, noise is louder when I put my hand on or near the Signalink.
> 4. When the Signalink is connected to my laptop and the KX3 and the KX3USB cable is connected to my KX3, a very small amount of (equally broadband) noise.
>
> This seems distinctly ungood if a little messing with capacitance causes that.
>
> All of these seem to be radiated either by the Signalink itself or by a cable connected to it - ?course, that could include the USB cables and the laptop as well. Whenever I turned the null on my antenna towards their general direction, the noise got quieter (but was still strong enough to be bothersome).
>
> Gonna try those mods as soon as my order from Mouser gets here. Crossing my fingers it?s by Field Day.
>
> 73
> Amy
> K3ISI
>
>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Amy Wilhelm <netcrusher88 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, fldigi doesn't seem to know what to do with I/Q. Yet.
>>
>> CAT control isn't strictly necessary. But it's nice to have with fldigi, WSJT, and various logging software.
>>
>> 73
>> Amy
>> K3ISI (granted today)
>>
>> Sent from infinite squirrels at infinite keyboards
>>
>>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 5:18 PM, k3ndm at comcast.net wrote:
>>>
>>> Guys,
>>> Two things. First, you can't use the I&Q data on the KX3 to transmit and I'm not really sure you can use it with FLDIGI; I believe FLDIGI only expects audio. And second, I'm not sure why you need to use ACC1. The only connections you should need to use is to the KX3 mic and the USB connector for the SignaLink. The SignaLink will key the radio with out needing other connections. This may help some of the noise problem.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Barry
>>> K3NDM
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: "bs usb" <bsusb at k5dkz.com>
>>> To: "elecraft" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 5:01:45 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 + SignaLink USB noise problems
>>>
>>> With the I/Q output from the KX3 and fldigi software on the Mac why do
>>> you even fool with signal-link?
>>>
>>> Amy Wilhelm wrote:
>>>> Yes, it's another post about that little interface we all love to hate...
>>>>
>>>> I went through archives and didn't find anything that *quite* matched
>>>> this, so I wanted to know if anyone's experienced it or has tips.
>>>>
>>>> Aside from the widely reported high noise floor (it *seems* to be
>>>> possible to just crank the RX volume to get past that a little) I have
>>>> a couple of symptoms that are...strange at best:
>>>>
>>>> 1. If I have the KX3 connected to my laptop via the KX3USB cable to
>>>> ACC1, and then attach the Signalink to a different USB port, I
>>>> immediately experience broadband noise. Changing the IF doesn't seem
>>>> to help this, and I seem to be tuning past peaks of noise all across
>>>> the band. If I detach the Signalink, most of these symptoms go away (I
>>>> think some of the peaks are just out there).
>>>>
>>>> 2. The Signalink seems to be radiating a significant amount of QRM -
>>>> or the cables connected to it (but not necessarily to the KX3) are.
>>>> Because I use an Alexloop, my antenna is always right next to my
>>>> laptop, interface, radio, all that fun noisy stuff. Conveniently
>>>> magloops have this great null directly perpendicular, so I've worked
>>>> out that turning my antenna perpendicular to the Signalink - not
>>>> necessarily my laptop or radio - reduces the noise floor significantly
>>>> (both wideband noise and weird little blips every 150 Hz or so). I'm
>>>> not actually sure at the moment whether I've checked if unplugging my
>>>> Signalink makes a big difference, but evidence would suggest I should
>>>> try that.
>>>>
>>>> This is all with the KX3 operating off of a gel cell (so no QRM
>>>> there), the Signalink with the official KX3 snap-in jumper board and
>>>> cables, a Macbook Air running from its internal battery, an Alexloop,
>>>> and the included KX3USB cable.
>>>>
>>>> Any help would be much appreciated - I've seen the page suggesting
>>>> some mods to the Signalink and I'm more than willing to do those if
>>>> those would help with the symptoms I've been seeing here, but wanted
>>>> to check if anyone thought that was reasonable (and that my diagnosis
>>>> is) first.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>> Amy Wilhelm
>>>> WN5FIZ
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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From netcrusher88 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 23 22:00:31 2015
From: netcrusher88 at gmail.com (Amy Wilhelm)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:00:31 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 + SignaLink USB noise problems
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Yeah, that?s where I am now. The Air, conveniently, doesn?t have a mic jack, but I do have a lovely interface I certainly think is good quality I picked up a while ago for music production.

Thanks all.
-Amy


> On Jun 23, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:
> 
> Amy,
> 
> Why don't you try 2 stereo cables between your laptop and KX3, all audio.  I'd suggest Radio Shack except RS es mort.  Others have suggested ditching the SL, it isn't much of a sound card and does have some RFI problems, so start simple.  You can decide about the SL later.
> 
> Two RS stereo cables have been my digi interface, always has, works great, lasts a long time.  It's probably not the absolute best, but it works.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
> - www.cqp.org
> 
> On 6/23/2015 6:36 PM, Amy Wilhelm wrote:
>> Having performed further science, here?s what I?ve got:
>> 
>> 1. When the Signalink is connected to my laptop but not the KX3, nothing special.
>> 2. When the Signalink is connected to my KX3 (mic jack so I could monitor the receive audio), broadband noise.
>> 2a. in this instance, noise is quieted by placing my hand on or near the Signalink.
>> 3. When the Signalink is connected to my laptop but not the KX3 *and* the KX3USB is connected to my KX3, broadband noise.
>> 3a. in this instance, noise is louder when I put my hand on or near the Signalink.
>> 4. When the Signalink is connected to my laptop and the KX3 and the KX3USB cable is connected to my KX3, a very small amount of (equally broadband) noise.
>> 
>> This seems distinctly ungood if a little messing with capacitance causes that.
>> 
>> All of these seem to be radiated either by the Signalink itself or by a cable connected to it - ?course, that could include the USB cables and the laptop as well. Whenever I turned the null on my antenna towards their general direction, the noise got quieter (but was still strong enough to be bothersome).
>> 
>> Gonna try those mods as soon as my order from Mouser gets here. Crossing my fingers it?s by Field Day.
>> 
>> 73
>> Amy
>> K3ISI
>> 
>>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Amy Wilhelm <netcrusher88 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, fldigi doesn't seem to know what to do with I/Q. Yet.
>>> 
>>> CAT control isn't strictly necessary. But it's nice to have with fldigi, WSJT, and various logging software.
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> Amy
>>> K3ISI (granted today)
>>> 
>>> Sent from infinite squirrels at infinite keyboards
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 5:18 PM, k3ndm at comcast.net wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Guys,
>>>> Two things. First, you can't use the I&Q data on the KX3 to transmit and I'm not really sure you can use it with FLDIGI; I believe FLDIGI only expects audio. And second, I'm not sure why you need to use ACC1. The only connections you should need to use is to the KX3 mic and the USB connector for the SignaLink. The SignaLink will key the radio with out needing other connections. This may help some of the noise problem.
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> Barry
>>>> K3NDM
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> 
>>>> From: "bs usb" <bsusb at k5dkz.com>
>>>> To: "elecraft" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 5:01:45 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 + SignaLink USB noise problems
>>>> 
>>>> With the I/Q output from the KX3 and fldigi software on the Mac why do
>>>> you even fool with signal-link?
>>>> 
>>>> Amy Wilhelm wrote:
>>>>> Yes, it's another post about that little interface we all love to hate...
>>>>> 
>>>>> I went through archives and didn't find anything that *quite* matched
>>>>> this, so I wanted to know if anyone's experienced it or has tips.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Aside from the widely reported high noise floor (it *seems* to be
>>>>> possible to just crank the RX volume to get past that a little) I have
>>>>> a couple of symptoms that are...strange at best:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. If I have the KX3 connected to my laptop via the KX3USB cable to
>>>>> ACC1, and then attach the Signalink to a different USB port, I
>>>>> immediately experience broadband noise. Changing the IF doesn't seem
>>>>> to help this, and I seem to be tuning past peaks of noise all across
>>>>> the band. If I detach the Signalink, most of these symptoms go away (I
>>>>> think some of the peaks are just out there).
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2. The Signalink seems to be radiating a significant amount of QRM -
>>>>> or the cables connected to it (but not necessarily to the KX3) are.
>>>>> Because I use an Alexloop, my antenna is always right next to my
>>>>> laptop, interface, radio, all that fun noisy stuff. Conveniently
>>>>> magloops have this great null directly perpendicular, so I've worked
>>>>> out that turning my antenna perpendicular to the Signalink - not
>>>>> necessarily my laptop or radio - reduces the noise floor significantly
>>>>> (both wideband noise and weird little blips every 150 Hz or so). I'm
>>>>> not actually sure at the moment whether I've checked if unplugging my
>>>>> Signalink makes a big difference, but evidence would suggest I should
>>>>> try that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is all with the KX3 operating off of a gel cell (so no QRM
>>>>> there), the Signalink with the official KX3 snap-in jumper board and
>>>>> cables, a Macbook Air running from its internal battery, an Alexloop,
>>>>> and the included KX3USB cable.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any help would be much appreciated - I've seen the page suggesting
>>>>> some mods to the Signalink and I'm more than willing to do those if
>>>>> those would help with the symptoms I've been seeing here, but wanted
>>>>> to check if anyone thought that was reasonable (and that my diagnosis
>>>>> is) first.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73
>>>>> Amy Wilhelm
>>>>> WN5FIZ
>>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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From k3ndm at comcast.net  Tue Jun 23 21:58:53 2015
From: k3ndm at comcast.net (k3ndm at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 01:58:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 + SignaLink USB noise problems
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Amy, 
I just noticed your signature block. Congratulations!! 

Let me describe what I have done in one iteration of my station configuration. I had used the free version of HRD to control my radio and do logging. I used DM780 which is built into HRD for everything. But, to be honest I just didn't like the feel of DM780 so I switched to FLDIGI and kept HRD. I didn't have, or really noticed, digital interference. I was really careful about the cables I used. 

Later on, and a number of iterations, I switched to Win4K3 for control and spectrum display, but I kept HRD and FLDIGI. All my connections are with a cable to ACC1 for rig control and read out, a USB connection for the SignaLink, a cable for the mic of the KX3. Everything else is done with virtual com ports created by com0com where no real cable connection is needed. 

As I can now see the spectrum, I can see all manner of things. I have a house full wall worts, or equal, so I see a number of these. There is some noise created by my laptop which I can hear when my hard drive spins up; that tells me my grounding is not as good as it should be. But, I don't seem to be having a USB created interference problem. I believe I have two things going for me, luck and a set of good cables. 

Lastly, radio control of the KX3 by FLDIGI is necessary or it wouldn't have been included in the application. You can do as I do or as you are trying. So, let me suggest that you pull one cable at a time and try and determine which cable it really is, like trying another USB cable to the SignaLink or using ferrite. I know how frustrating these things can be, but in the majority of cases, the problem can be knocked down to the point of being liveable. Good luck. 

73, 
Barry 
K3NDM 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Amy Wilhelm" <netcrusher88 at gmail.com> 
To: k3ndm at comcast.net 
Cc: "bs usb" <bsusb at k5dkz.com>, "elecraft" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 8:45:01 PM 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 + SignaLink USB noise problems 

Yeah, fldigi doesn't seem to know what to do with I/Q. Yet. 

CAT control isn't strictly necessary. But it's nice to have with fldigi, WSJT, and various logging software. 

73 
Amy 
K3ISI (granted today) 

Sent from infinite squirrels at infinite keyboards 

> On Jun 23, 2015, at 5:18 PM, k3ndm at comcast.net wrote: 
> 
> Guys, 
> Two things. First, you can't use the I&Q data on the KX3 to transmit and I'm not really sure you can use it with FLDIGI; I believe FLDIGI only expects audio. And second, I'm not sure why you need to use ACC1. The only connections you should need to use is to the KX3 mic and the USB connector for the SignaLink. The SignaLink will key the radio with out needing other connections. This may help some of the noise problem. 
> 
> 73, 
> Barry 
> K3NDM 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: "bs usb" <bsusb at k5dkz.com> 
> To: "elecraft" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 5:01:45 PM 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 + SignaLink USB noise problems 
> 
> With the I/Q output from the KX3 and fldigi software on the Mac why do 
> you even fool with signal-link? 
> 
> Amy Wilhelm wrote: 
>> Yes, it's another post about that little interface we all love to hate... 
>> 
>> I went through archives and didn't find anything that *quite* matched 
>> this, so I wanted to know if anyone's experienced it or has tips. 
>> 
>> Aside from the widely reported high noise floor (it *seems* to be 
>> possible to just crank the RX volume to get past that a little) I have 
>> a couple of symptoms that are...strange at best: 
>> 
>> 1. If I have the KX3 connected to my laptop via the KX3USB cable to 
>> ACC1, and then attach the Signalink to a different USB port, I 
>> immediately experience broadband noise. Changing the IF doesn't seem 
>> to help this, and I seem to be tuning past peaks of noise all across 
>> the band. If I detach the Signalink, most of these symptoms go away (I 
>> think some of the peaks are just out there). 
>> 
>> 2. The Signalink seems to be radiating a significant amount of QRM - 
>> or the cables connected to it (but not necessarily to the KX3) are. 
>> Because I use an Alexloop, my antenna is always right next to my 
>> laptop, interface, radio, all that fun noisy stuff. Conveniently 
>> magloops have this great null directly perpendicular, so I've worked 
>> out that turning my antenna perpendicular to the Signalink - not 
>> necessarily my laptop or radio - reduces the noise floor significantly 
>> (both wideband noise and weird little blips every 150 Hz or so). I'm 
>> not actually sure at the moment whether I've checked if unplugging my 
>> Signalink makes a big difference, but evidence would suggest I should 
>> try that. 
>> 
>> This is all with the KX3 operating off of a gel cell (so no QRM 
>> there), the Signalink with the official KX3 snap-in jumper board and 
>> cables, a Macbook Air running from its internal battery, an Alexloop, 
>> and the included KX3USB cable. 
>> 
>> Any help would be much appreciated - I've seen the page suggesting 
>> some mods to the Signalink and I'm more than willing to do those if 
>> those would help with the symptoms I've been seeing here, but wanted 
>> to check if anyone thought that was reasonable (and that my diagnosis 
>> is) first. 
>> 
>> 73 
>> Amy Wilhelm 
>> WN5FIZ 
>> ______________________________________________________________ 
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From lists at subich.com  Tue Jun 23 22:13:21 2015
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:13:21 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 + SignaLink USB noise problems
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Amy,

Try using a different USB cable.  What you describe sounds like
an open shield on an inexpensive cable.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-06-23 10:00 PM, Amy Wilhelm wrote:
> Yeah, that?s where I am now. The Air, conveniently, doesn?t have a mic jack, but I do have a lovely interface I certainly think is good quality I picked up a while ago for music production.
>
> Thanks all.
> -Amy
>
>
>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:
>>
>> Amy,
>>
>> Why don't you try 2 stereo cables between your laptop and KX3, all audio.  I'd suggest Radio Shack except RS es mort.  Others have suggested ditching the SL, it isn't much of a sound card and does have some RFI problems, so start simple.  You can decide about the SL later.
>>
>> Two RS stereo cables have been my digi interface, always has, works great, lasts a long time.  It's probably not the absolute best, but it works.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Fred K6DGW
>> - Northern California Contest Club
>> - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
>> - www.cqp.org
>>
>> On 6/23/2015 6:36 PM, Amy Wilhelm wrote:
>>> Having performed further science, here?s what I?ve got:
>>>
>>> 1. When the Signalink is connected to my laptop but not the KX3, nothing special.
>>> 2. When the Signalink is connected to my KX3 (mic jack so I could monitor the receive audio), broadband noise.
>>> 2a. in this instance, noise is quieted by placing my hand on or near the Signalink.
>>> 3. When the Signalink is connected to my laptop but not the KX3 *and* the KX3USB is connected to my KX3, broadband noise.
>>> 3a. in this instance, noise is louder when I put my hand on or near the Signalink.
>>> 4. When the Signalink is connected to my laptop and the KX3 and the KX3USB cable is connected to my KX3, a very small amount of (equally broadband) noise.
>>>
>>> This seems distinctly ungood if a little messing with capacitance causes that.
>>>
>>> All of these seem to be radiated either by the Signalink itself or by a cable connected to it - ?course, that could include the USB cables and the laptop as well. Whenever I turned the null on my antenna towards their general direction, the noise got quieter (but was still strong enough to be bothersome).
>>>
>>> Gonna try those mods as soon as my order from Mouser gets here. Crossing my fingers it?s by Field Day.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Amy
>>> K3ISI
>>>
>>>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Amy Wilhelm <netcrusher88 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, fldigi doesn't seem to know what to do with I/Q. Yet.
>>>>
>>>> CAT control isn't strictly necessary. But it's nice to have with fldigi, WSJT, and various logging software.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>> Amy
>>>> K3ISI (granted today)
>>>>
>>>> Sent from infinite squirrels at infinite keyboards
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 5:18 PM, k3ndm at comcast.net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Guys,
>>>>> Two things. First, you can't use the I&Q data on the KX3 to transmit and I'm not really sure you can use it with FLDIGI; I believe FLDIGI only expects audio. And second, I'm not sure why you need to use ACC1. The only connections you should need to use is to the KX3 mic and the USB connector for the SignaLink. The SignaLink will key the radio with out needing other connections. This may help some of the noise problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> Barry
>>>>> K3NDM
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "bs usb" <bsusb at k5dkz.com>
>>>>> To: "elecraft" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 5:01:45 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 + SignaLink USB noise problems
>>>>>
>>>>> With the I/Q output from the KX3 and fldigi software on the Mac why do
>>>>> you even fool with signal-link?
>>>>>
>>>>> Amy Wilhelm wrote:
>>>>>> Yes, it's another post about that little interface we all love to hate...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I went through archives and didn't find anything that *quite* matched
>>>>>> this, so I wanted to know if anyone's experienced it or has tips.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aside from the widely reported high noise floor (it *seems* to be
>>>>>> possible to just crank the RX volume to get past that a little) I have
>>>>>> a couple of symptoms that are...strange at best:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. If I have the KX3 connected to my laptop via the KX3USB cable to
>>>>>> ACC1, and then attach the Signalink to a different USB port, I
>>>>>> immediately experience broadband noise. Changing the IF doesn't seem
>>>>>> to help this, and I seem to be tuning past peaks of noise all across
>>>>>> the band. If I detach the Signalink, most of these symptoms go away (I
>>>>>> think some of the peaks are just out there).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. The Signalink seems to be radiating a significant amount of QRM -
>>>>>> or the cables connected to it (but not necessarily to the KX3) are.
>>>>>> Because I use an Alexloop, my antenna is always right next to my
>>>>>> laptop, interface, radio, all that fun noisy stuff. Conveniently
>>>>>> magloops have this great null directly perpendicular, so I've worked
>>>>>> out that turning my antenna perpendicular to the Signalink - not
>>>>>> necessarily my laptop or radio - reduces the noise floor significantly
>>>>>> (both wideband noise and weird little blips every 150 Hz or so). I'm
>>>>>> not actually sure at the moment whether I've checked if unplugging my
>>>>>> Signalink makes a big difference, but evidence would suggest I should
>>>>>> try that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is all with the KX3 operating off of a gel cell (so no QRM
>>>>>> there), the Signalink with the official KX3 snap-in jumper board and
>>>>>> cables, a Macbook Air running from its internal battery, an Alexloop,
>>>>>> and the included KX3USB cable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any help would be much appreciated - I've seen the page suggesting
>>>>>> some mods to the Signalink and I'm more than willing to do those if
>>>>>> those would help with the symptoms I've been seeing here, but wanted
>>>>>> to check if anyone thought that was reasonable (and that my diagnosis
>>>>>> is) first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73
>>>>>> Amy Wilhelm
>>>>>> WN5FIZ
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Tue Jun 23 22:22:15 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:22:15 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Reports of intermit bad audio
In-Reply-To: <1435110439416-7604236.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1434862468176-7604142.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<1435110439416-7604236.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <AD08BBCD-251E-4C21-9670-C13C4A6A0547@elecraft.com>

Our pleasure, Gerald. I'm glad it was something simple and that you're back on the air.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Jun 23, 2015, at 6:47 PM, KC6CNN <kc6cnn at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am happy to report that my awesome audio is back. 
> Thank you Howard, Wayne, and Eric for your outstanding customer service. 
> All is great with my K3 now. 
> It still amazes me and it floored a couple of other hams that were here in
> my shack when Wayne returned my e-mail. They were like " That is one of the
> owners", I was like yeah. They could not believe that a simple guy like me
> could get one of the owners to e-mail me back. I laughed and told them that
> I had exchanged e-mails with both owners and had even spoken to them on the
> phone. 
> One of the hams laughed and said yeah try that with any of the big three.
> Then said he believed he was going to sell his radio and purchase a new K3.
> I explained the new K3s to him and told him he would not miss the old radio. 
> Got off subject here sorry. 
> Thanks again Elecraft for the outstanding Customer Service. 
> Thank you
> Gerald Manthey - KC6CNN



From k3ndm at comcast.net  Tue Jun 23 22:26:22 2015
From: k3ndm at comcast.net (k3ndm at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 02:26:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 + SignaLink USB noise problems
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References: <CACH_UoEPx_422ZxfWHRgkn4JCXEOkCweKL015WHvuf38ydn-Sg@mail.gmail.com>
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Amy, 
Interesting set of observations. Just for giggles, bond everything together to include your power supply if you aren't using a battery. And make sure that you really are getting to the grounds. I suspect you are seeing a manifestation of a problem called pin 1 syndrome. There is a really good paper written on this and it's very understandable. 

73, 
Barry 
K3NDM 
----- Original Message -----

From: "Amy Wilhelm" <netcrusher88 at gmail.com> 
To: "elecraft" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 9:36:32 PM 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 + SignaLink USB noise problems 

Having performed further science, here?s what I?ve got: 

1. When the Signalink is connected to my laptop but not the KX3, nothing special. 
2. When the Signalink is connected to my KX3 (mic jack so I could monitor the receive audio), broadband noise. 
2a. in this instance, noise is quieted by placing my hand on or near the Signalink. 
3. When the Signalink is connected to my laptop but not the KX3 *and* the KX3USB is connected to my KX3, broadband noise. 
3a. in this instance, noise is louder when I put my hand on or near the Signalink. 
4. When the Signalink is connected to my laptop and the KX3 and the KX3USB cable is connected to my KX3, a very small amount of (equally broadband) noise. 

This seems distinctly ungood if a little messing with capacitance causes that. 

All of these seem to be radiated either by the Signalink itself or by a cable connected to it - ?course, that could include the USB cables and the laptop as well. Whenever I turned the null on my antenna towards their general direction, the noise got quieter (but was still strong enough to be bothersome). 

Gonna try those mods as soon as my order from Mouser gets here. Crossing my fingers it?s by Field Day. 

73 
Amy 
K3ISI 

> On Jun 23, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Amy Wilhelm <netcrusher88 at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> Yeah, fldigi doesn't seem to know what to do with I/Q. Yet. 
> 
> CAT control isn't strictly necessary. But it's nice to have with fldigi, WSJT, and various logging software. 
> 
> 73 
> Amy 
> K3ISI (granted today) 
> 
> Sent from infinite squirrels at infinite keyboards 
> 
>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 5:18 PM, k3ndm at comcast.net wrote: 
>> 
>> Guys, 
>> Two things. First, you can't use the I&Q data on the KX3 to transmit and I'm not really sure you can use it with FLDIGI; I believe FLDIGI only expects audio. And second, I'm not sure why you need to use ACC1. The only connections you should need to use is to the KX3 mic and the USB connector for the SignaLink. The SignaLink will key the radio with out needing other connections. This may help some of the noise problem. 
>> 
>> 73, 
>> Barry 
>> K3NDM 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> 
>> From: "bs usb" <bsusb at k5dkz.com> 
>> To: "elecraft" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 5:01:45 PM 
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 + SignaLink USB noise problems 
>> 
>> With the I/Q output from the KX3 and fldigi software on the Mac why do 
>> you even fool with signal-link? 
>> 
>> Amy Wilhelm wrote: 
>>> Yes, it's another post about that little interface we all love to hate... 
>>> 
>>> I went through archives and didn't find anything that *quite* matched 
>>> this, so I wanted to know if anyone's experienced it or has tips. 
>>> 
>>> Aside from the widely reported high noise floor (it *seems* to be 
>>> possible to just crank the RX volume to get past that a little) I have 
>>> a couple of symptoms that are...strange at best: 
>>> 
>>> 1. If I have the KX3 connected to my laptop via the KX3USB cable to 
>>> ACC1, and then attach the Signalink to a different USB port, I 
>>> immediately experience broadband noise. Changing the IF doesn't seem 
>>> to help this, and I seem to be tuning past peaks of noise all across 
>>> the band. If I detach the Signalink, most of these symptoms go away (I 
>>> think some of the peaks are just out there). 
>>> 
>>> 2. The Signalink seems to be radiating a significant amount of QRM - 
>>> or the cables connected to it (but not necessarily to the KX3) are. 
>>> Because I use an Alexloop, my antenna is always right next to my 
>>> laptop, interface, radio, all that fun noisy stuff. Conveniently 
>>> magloops have this great null directly perpendicular, so I've worked 
>>> out that turning my antenna perpendicular to the Signalink - not 
>>> necessarily my laptop or radio - reduces the noise floor significantly 
>>> (both wideband noise and weird little blips every 150 Hz or so). I'm 
>>> not actually sure at the moment whether I've checked if unplugging my 
>>> Signalink makes a big difference, but evidence would suggest I should 
>>> try that. 
>>> 
>>> This is all with the KX3 operating off of a gel cell (so no QRM 
>>> there), the Signalink with the official KX3 snap-in jumper board and 
>>> cables, a Macbook Air running from its internal battery, an Alexloop, 
>>> and the included KX3USB cable. 
>>> 
>>> Any help would be much appreciated - I've seen the page suggesting 
>>> some mods to the Signalink and I'm more than willing to do those if 
>>> those would help with the symptoms I've been seeing here, but wanted 
>>> to check if anyone thought that was reasonable (and that my diagnosis 
>>> is) first. 
>>> 
>>> 73 
>>> Amy Wilhelm 
>>> WN5FIZ 
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From ny2cq at icloud.com  Tue Jun 23 22:57:41 2015
From: ny2cq at icloud.com (NY2CQ)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:57:41 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Reports of intermit bad audio
In-Reply-To: <AD08BBCD-251E-4C21-9670-C13C4A6A0547@elecraft.com>
References: <1434862468176-7604142.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<1435110439416-7604236.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<AD08BBCD-251E-4C21-9670-C13C4A6A0547@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <5E801D5D-BB47-4697-B208-A4A36B84FFF8@icloud.com>

All,

I must agree with Gerald.  I've been thinking about making the move to Elecraft and been following this board for a while just to gauge customer satisfaction, technical support, etc. I must say that the quantity and quality of information exchanged and the level of responsiveness have won me over.  If I had any doubts before, I no longer do.  I'm happily making the move.  Keep up the great work ... Customer service still matters!

73
Joe
NY2CQ

> On Jun 23, 2015, at 10:22 PM, Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote:
> 
> Our pleasure, Gerald. I'm glad it was something simple and that you're back on the air.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 6:47 PM, KC6CNN <kc6cnn at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I am happy to report that my awesome audio is back. 
>> Thank you Howard, Wayne, and Eric for your outstanding customer service. 
>> All is great with my K3 now. 
>> It still amazes me and it floored a couple of other hams that were here in
>> my shack when Wayne returned my e-mail. They were like " That is one of the
>> owners", I was like yeah. They could not believe that a simple guy like me
>> could get one of the owners to e-mail me back. I laughed and told them that
>> I had exchanged e-mails with both owners and had even spoken to them on the
>> phone. 
>> One of the hams laughed and said yeah try that with any of the big three.
>> Then said he believed he was going to sell his radio and purchase a new K3.
>> I explained the new K3s to him and told him he would not miss the old radio. 
>> Got off subject here sorry. 
>> Thanks again Elecraft for the outstanding Customer Service. 
>> Thank you
>> Gerald Manthey - KC6CNN
> 
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From kc6cnn at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 01:28:33 2015
From: kc6cnn at gmail.com (KC6CNN)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:28:33 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Reports of intermit bad audio
In-Reply-To: <1434862468176-7604142.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1434862468176-7604142.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1435123713512-7604244.post@n2.nabble.com>

I keep getting private e-mail asking what were the symptoms and what fixed
the problem.
The radio was shipped back to me after a trip to the factory for an upgrade
and repair. 
The radio came back and once it was hooked up, I joined a group of people
that I talk to all the time. 
Everyone said that my audio did not sound right. The intermittently it would
go from just okay to terrible. I had one of the guys I talk with watch me on
his pan adaptor and it showed spikes and a very dirty signal. I contacted
Elecraft by e-mail on the weekend and first thing Monday Morning Howard from
Elecraft had called me and left message for me to return his call. I
returned his call and he walked me though all of my settings. Then after
everything checked out he said that he had see something similar to this and
explained what he thought it might be. Howard told me that if I removed the
fans and circuit breaker panel off of the back side I would be able to see
where the amp connected in. Howard e-mailed me two pictures one the correct
way and the other was one they had found the caused a similar problem. I
pulled the plate off of my radio and sure enough the amplifier was not
seated all the way down in the connector. I pushed down on the amp board and
it seated completely with the connecting board. I then loosened all the
screws on both the board and the amp and made sure they were seated and then
retightened the screws. My K3 is now functioning great. I don't know how it
came loose, but it did. It could have been loosened and moved during
shipping, I do not know. I took a picture of the connector before I secured
it, but I do not know how to post a picture of it here. 
Okay hope this answers everyone's questions and hopefully if someone ever
has these symptoms and research the forum they will be helped by this too. 
Thanks
Gerald - KC6CNN 



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From indians at xsmail.com  Wed Jun 24 04:48:24 2015
From: indians at xsmail.com (ok1rp)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 01:48:24 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S - have initial shipments begun?
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Dick,

see the K3S s/n 10009 over here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb_KwCWuNMY
in EU at W&S...

Enjoy Your K3S when it will arrive!

73 - Petr, OK1RP





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From n1ix at n1ix.com  Wed Jun 24 06:24:42 2015
From: n1ix at n1ix.com (n1ix at n1ix.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 06:24:42 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] WTB K3/10 or K3/100
Message-ID: <00d101d0ae67$fc2d8310$f4888930$@n1ix.com>

I am looking for a K3/10 or minimally configured K3/100 to use as a second
radio for SO2R.

If you want to upgrade to the new K3S I may be in the market for your
existing K3.

 

Please contact me off list. 

 

Dave N1IX

dave at n1ix.com


From pincon at erols.com  Wed Jun 24 07:35:17 2015
From: pincon at erols.com (Charlie T, K3ICH)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 07:35:17 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Reports of intermit bad audio
In-Reply-To: <1435123713512-7604244.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1434862468176-7604142.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<1435123713512-7604244.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <002101d0ae71$dcb8cb20$962a6160$@erols.com>

Great, Gerald.

Glad it was an "easy" fix and many thanks for
sharing the solution with all of us.

We certainly don't want any "bad audio" reports
floating around that could be caused by this
simple-to-fix problem.

Good info to file away for reference.

73, Charlie k3ICH



-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft
[mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On
Behalf Of KC6CNN
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 1:29 AM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Reports of intermit bad
audio

I keep getting private e-mail asking what were the
symptoms and what fixed the problem.
The radio was shipped back to me after a trip to
the factory for an upgrade and repair. 
The radio came back and once it was hooked up, I
joined a group of people that I talk to all the
time. 
Everyone said that my audio did not sound right.
The intermittently it would go from just okay to
terrible. I had one of the guys I talk with watch
me on his pan adaptor and it showed spikes and a
very dirty signal. I contacted Elecraft by e-mail
on the weekend and first thing Monday Morning
Howard from Elecraft had called me and left
message for me to return his call. I returned his
call and he walked me though all of my settings.
Then after everything checked out he said that he
had see something similar to this and explained
what he thought it might be. Howard told me that
if I removed the fans and circuit breaker panel
off of the back side I would be able to see where
the amp connected in. Howard e-mailed me two
pictures one the correct way and the other was one
they had found the caused a similar problem. I
pulled the plate off of my radio and sure enough
the amplifier was not seated all the way down in
the connector. I pushed down on the amp board and
it seated completely with the connecting board. I
then loosened all the screws on both the board and
the amp and made sure they were seated and then
retightened the screws. My K3 is now functioning
great. I don't know how it came loose, but it did.
It could have been loosened and moved during
shipping, I do not know. I took a picture of the
connector before I secured it, but I do not know
how to post a picture of it here. 
Okay hope this answers everyone's questions and
hopefully if someone ever has these symptoms and
research the forum they will be helped by this
too. 
Thanks
Gerald - KC6CNN 



-----
KC6CNN - Gerald



From pincon at erols.com  Wed Jun 24 07:42:27 2015
From: pincon at erols.com (Charlie T, K3ICH)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 07:42:27 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S - have initial shipments begun?
In-Reply-To: <1435135704724-7604245.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1352ae.93c0d7a.42b9afdc@aol.com>
	<1435135704724-7604245.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <002201d0ae72$dc8d7ff0$95a87fd0$@erols.com>

What's the best way to check on the status of a
previously placed order?

Specifically, I ordered a new K3S about 6 weeks
ago via internet and have not received any sort of
confirmation.

I'm suspecting I may have screwed up the order and
it never went through (gasp!)

I know they're are really busy, so I don't want to
add to the confusion by pestering, but I AM
getting a little concerned. 

73, Charlie k3ICH



From kenk3iu at cox.net  Wed Jun 24 08:23:34 2015
From: kenk3iu at cox.net (Ken K3IU)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 08:23:34 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] WTB K3/10 or K3/100
In-Reply-To: <kASD1q00W45oxQM01ASEv6>
References: <kASD1q00W45oxQM01ASEv6>
Message-ID: <558AA146.9090309@cox.net>

Gents
I am at my "shack" machine now. I decided that while I still 
had the antennae disconnected, I would scan the 6M band for 
birdies. Bandwidth set at the usual CW mode, 400 Hz, tuning 
from the bottom of the band upwards.

Preamp is OFF unless otherwise indicated.

_CW - 400kc filter_
50.195.25     <S1 - No reading on S meter preamp Off. S1 
just flickering with External Preamp(PR6) ON
50.197.80                ditto
Nothing else heard up to at least 50.300

_Now opening up the bandwidth to 1 Kc (1.8kc filter engaged)..._
50.114.9        S1
50.152.14     VERY weak
50.195.89     < S1 but stronger than previous one
50.198.12     VERY Weak
50.240.58     VERY VERY Weak... even with preamp ON
50.278.22     VERY weak
Stopped at 50.300

_Opening bandwidth up to 2.8 kc__  (I have the 8 pole 2.8kc 
filter)_
50.050.56     Weak... S1 just flickering
50.115.35     S2. S3-4 with preamp ON
50.152.6       VERY weak
50.196.44     VERY weak
50.198.33     VERY weak
50.240.60     VERY VERY weak... even with preamp ON.
50.278.76     Weak... S1 just flickering
Stopped at 50.300

The strongest birdie I am experiencing here is with CW mode, 
2.8kc filter and  preamp off. I reconnected the 6M beam and 
the strength of the birdies is unchanged. That "strong" 
birdie is at 50.115.35 or so, S2 with no preamp,and S3-4 
with external preamp ON.

When I installed the new KSYN3A boards, I took no special 
precautions on dressing the TMP cables other than trying to 
approximate the routing shown in the instructions.

I reconnected my beam and spot checked a few data points and 
the birdies are still present and the same relative 
strengths. The only one that might cause me some distress is 
the one at abt 50.115, and I can remove that with the firmware.

73, Ken K3iU
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 6/24/2015 6:24 AM, n1ix at n1ix.com wrote:
> I am looking for a K3/10 or minimally configured K3/100 to use as a second
> radio for SO2R.
>
> If you want to upgrade to the new K3S I may be in the market for your
> existing K3.
>
>   
>
> Please contact me off list.
>
>   
>
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>
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From kenk3iu at cox.net  Wed Jun 24 08:27:00 2015
From: kenk3iu at cox.net (Ken K3IU)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 08:27:00 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re:  WTB K3/10 or K3/100
In-Reply-To: <558AA146.9090309@cox.net>
References: <558AA146.9090309@cox.net>
Message-ID: <558AA214.3050703@cox.net>

Oops... sorry. I didn't mean for this to "Reply to:" Dave, 
N1IX's email.  Dag Nabbit!
73, Ken K3IU
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	Re: [Elecraft] WTB K3/10 or K3/100
Date: 	Wed, 24 Jun 2015 08:23:34 -0400
From: 	Ken K3IU <kenk3iu at cox.net>
To: 	n1ix at n1ix.com, elecraft at mailman.qth.net



Gents
I am at my "shack" machine now. I decided that while I still 
had the antennae disconnected, I would scan the 6M band for 
birdies. Bandwidth set at the usual CW mode, 400 Hz, tuning 
from the bottom of the band upwards.

Preamp is OFF unless otherwise indicated.

_CW - 400kc filter_
50.195.25     <S1 - No reading on S meter preamp Off. S1 
just flickering with External Preamp(PR6) ON
50.197.80                ditto
Nothing else heard up to at least 50.300

_Now opening up the bandwidth to 1 Kc (1.8kc filter engaged)..._
50.114.9        S1
50.152.14     VERY weak
50.195.89     < S1 but stronger than previous one
50.198.12     VERY Weak
50.240.58     VERY VERY Weak... even with preamp ON
50.278.22     VERY weak
Stopped at 50.300

_Opening bandwidth up to 2.8 kc__  (I have the 8 pole 2.8kc 
filter)_
50.050.56     Weak... S1 just flickering
50.115.35     S2. S3-4 with preamp ON
50.152.6       VERY weak
50.196.44     VERY weak
50.198.33     VERY weak
50.240.60     VERY VERY weak... even with preamp ON.
50.278.76     Weak... S1 just flickering
Stopped at 50.300

The strongest birdie I am experiencing here is with CW mode, 
2.8kc filter and  preamp off. I reconnected the 6M beam and 
the strength of the birdies is unchanged. That "strong" 
birdie is at 50.115.35 or so, S2 with no preamp,and S3-4 
with external preamp ON.

When I installed the new KSYN3A boards, I took no special 
precautions on dressing the TMP cables other than trying to 
approximate the routing shown in the instructions.

I reconnected my beam and spot checked a few data points and 
the birdies are still present and the same relative 
strengths. The only one that might cause me some distress is 
the one at abt 50.115, and I can remove that with the firmware.

73, Ken K3iU
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 6/24/2015 6:24 AM, n1ix at n1ix.com wrote:
> I am looking for a K3/10 or minimally configured K3/100 to use as a second
> radio for SO2R.
>
> If you want to upgrade to the new K3S I may be in the market for your
> existing K3.
>
>   
>
> Please contact me off list.
>
>   
>
> Dave N1IX
>
> dave at n1ix.com
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From kt5d at charter.net  Wed Jun 24 08:55:11 2015
From: kt5d at charter.net (Gee)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 08:55:11 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] CW filter and Roofing filter
Message-ID: <67819E41-8658-43FF-8067-AA5FAF27D814@charter.net>

Trying to sort this out....... 
1) with any filter selected using the XFIL button on the K3, there is only ONE crystal IF filter in the signal path. In other words, there is no cascading or tail ending of the filters before and after the IF.
2) if I select a 400 Hz filter with the XFIL button then adjusting the DSP WIDTH control to any WIDER than 500 Hz is pointless.
3) can the DSP be bypassed to produce a purely analog demodulated audio to the speaker? As I recall years ago, some early DSP radios had this feature. I am pretty sure the answer is no but still, had to ask.
It is interesting to note that there are new hams out there who have never listened to an analog receiver before. It can be an eye opening experience!

From indians at xsmail.com  Wed Jun 24 09:10:46 2015
From: indians at xsmail.com (ok1rp)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 06:10:46 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
In-Reply-To: <0D7D4F6B-0BD6-4B93-B0A6-850C0DECA359@att.net>
References: <0D7D4F6B-0BD6-4B93-B0A6-850C0DECA359@att.net>
Message-ID: <1435151446143-7604252.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hi,

try this one:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/other-mfrs/megawatt-ps/megawatt-ps.html
http://www.12voltpowersupplies.us/

Even although I am using always linear PSUs for powering my radios I tested
some time ago this unit and it was noiseless and quiet. Also You can find
several good user reports so it sounds like good solution.

You should stay away from offshore clones only...

Hope it helps,
73 - Petr, OK1RP




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From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Wed Jun 24 09:33:52 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 09:33:52 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] CW filter and Roofing filter
In-Reply-To: <67819E41-8658-43FF-8067-AA5FAF27D814@charter.net>
References: <67819E41-8658-43FF-8067-AA5FAF27D814@charter.net>
Message-ID: <558AB1C0.80102@embarqmail.com>

Gee,

The K3 DSP cannot be bypassed, it is part and parcel of the K3.  The DSP 
mathematical computations are what does the modulation, demodulation, 
and forms the filters as well as doing a lot of other tasks.  The K3 DSP 
processing in the K3 is done at a frequency of 15kHz.
There is no parallel to an analog receiver.  The front end of the K3 is 
analog, but as soon as the signal is converted to 15kHz, it goes through 
an ADC and becomes 'mathematical soup' - after processing, the math 
result is fed to a DAC where it emerges as audio.  In other words, the 
K3 is an SDR with an analog front end and a built-in processor.

The K3 must have the 2.7 or 2.8kHz filter installed.
If you have additional hardware filters installed, they are not cascaded 
- BUT the roofing filter can cascade with the DSP filter. Even if you 
select a narrow filter with the XFIL button, if you widen the DSP 
bandwidth beyond the width of that narrow filter, the K3 will switch to 
a wider filter.

I hope that helps your understanding.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/24/2015 8:55 AM, Gee wrote:
> Trying to sort this out.......
> 1) with any filter selected using the XFIL button on the K3, there is only ONE crystal IF filter in the signal path. In other words, there is no cascading or tail ending of the filters before and after the IF.
> 2) if I select a 400 Hz filter with the XFIL button then adjusting the DSP WIDTH control to any WIDER than 500 Hz is pointless.
> 3) can the DSP be bypassed to produce a purely analog demodulated audio to the speaker? As I recall years ago, some early DSP radios had this feature. I am pretty sure the answer is no but still, had to ask.
> It is interesting to note that there are new hams out there who have never listened to an analog receiver before. It can be an eye opening experience!
>


From pa3a at xs4all.nl  Wed Jun 24 09:34:53 2015
From: pa3a at xs4all.nl (Arie Kleingeld PA3A)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:34:53 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] CW filter and Roofing filter
In-Reply-To: <67819E41-8658-43FF-8067-AA5FAF27D814@charter.net>
References: <67819E41-8658-43FF-8067-AA5FAF27D814@charter.net>
Message-ID: <558AB1FD.1000001@xs4all.nl>

Cascading:
The only cascading filtering is first the xtal filter and then the DSP 
filter. (So there's only one xtal filter)

400Hz-500Hz:
Yes listening to a wider DSP filter than Xtal filter is pointless. 
Although (if configured correctly) the K3 will switch to a wider Xtal 
filter (if there is one) if you widen up the DSP.

Analog demodulation:
Demodulation in the K3 is DSP. There is not menu setting to get around this.


73
Arie PA3A

Gee schreef op 24-6-2015 om 14:55:
> Trying to sort this out.......
> 1) with any filter selected using the XFIL button on the K3, there is only ONE crystal IF filter in the signal path. In other words, there is no cascading or tail ending of the filters before and after the IF.
> 2) if I select a 400 Hz filter with the XFIL button then adjusting the DSP WIDTH control to any WIDER than 500 Hz is pointless.
> 3) can the DSP be bypassed to produce a purely analog demodulated audio to the speaker? As I recall years ago, some early DSP radios had this feature. I am pretty sure the answer is no but still, had to ask.
> It is interesting to note that there are new hams out there who have never listened to an analog receiver before. It can be an eye opening experience!
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From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Wed Jun 24 09:57:23 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Mel Farrer via Elecraft)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:57:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
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You will find this power supply under many labels.? Here is one in the US.? http://www.lightobject.com/DC-12V-29A-Switching-Power-Supply-Good-for-CNC-stepping-motor-and-Ham-Radio-P442.aspxDC 12V 29A Switching Power Supply. Good for CNC stepping motor and Ham Radio
| ? |
| ? |  | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? |
| DC 12V 29A Switching Power Supply. Good for CNC step... |
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? Notice the physical layout and general labeling is Identical to you Megawatt unit, this one is Coldfusion.? Like the Megawatt, very little RFI.? This one has the thermal sensing on the fan.


Mel, K6KBE
      From: ok1rp <indians at xsmail.com>
 To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 6:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
   
Hi,

try this one:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/other-mfrs/megawatt-ps/megawatt-ps.html
http://www.12voltpowersupplies.us/

Even although I am using always linear PSUs for powering my radios I tested
some time ago this unit and it was noiseless and quiet. Also You can find
several good user reports so it sounds like good solution.

You should stay away from offshore clones only...

Hope it helps,
73 - Petr, OK1RP




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From ddillenburger at web.de  Wed Jun 24 10:19:29 2015
From: ddillenburger at web.de (ddillenburger at web.de)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:19:29 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] shipping costs via USPO Express mail intern.
Message-ID: <trinity-6e93c31b-f9e1-4cc2-a1cb-24af70f74fd4-1435155569600@3capp-webde-bs59>

Hi all - 
just wondering if anybody here has had any experience yet with shipping 
Elecraft gear to EU / Germany via USPO services ( i.e.Express Mail Internat.)?
Costs seem rather favourable compared to UPS rates...time for me wouldn't be
a major factor. 
Thanks for sharing your ideas, 73!
(answer off list if you prefer)

From k6dgw at foothill.net  Wed Jun 24 10:35:09 2015
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 07:35:09 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] CW filter and Roofing filter
In-Reply-To: <67819E41-8658-43FF-8067-AA5FAF27D814@charter.net>
References: <67819E41-8658-43FF-8067-AA5FAF27D814@charter.net>
Message-ID: <558AC01D.5050408@foothill.net>

On 6/24/2015 5:55 AM, Gee wrote:
> with any filter selected using the
> XFIL button on the K3, there is only ONE crystal IF filter in the
> signal path.

Correct

> In other words, there is no cascading or tail ending of
> the filters before and after the IF.

Semi-correct.  If by filter you mean crystal roofing filter, and if by 
IF you mean 1st IF [8 MHz], correct.  One roofing filter followed by 2nd 
IF filtering provided by the DSP.

  2) if I select a 400 Hz filter
> with the XFIL button then adjusting the DSP WIDTH control to any
> WIDER than 500 Hz is pointless.

Sort of.  The K3 will automatically select a roofing filter from 
whatever you have that is wider than what the DSP is set to ... if it can.

  3) can the DSP be bypassed to produce
> a purely analog demodulated audio to the speaker?

No.  Once the 15 KHz 2nd IF becomes number soup in the DSP, there are 
only two analog things left in the chain:  The AF amplifier and you. 
The DSP contains a lot more than just adjustable filtering, such as AGC 
and demodulation.

> It is interesting to note that
> there are new hams out there who have never listened to an analog
> receiver before.

True

 >It can be an eye opening experience!

Possibly, although I doubt most would find that.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org


From kb9bvn at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 10:35:25 2015
From: kb9bvn at gmail.com (Brian)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:35:25 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] shipping costs via USPO Express mail intern.
In-Reply-To: <trinity-6e93c31b-f9e1-4cc2-a1cb-24af70f74fd4-1435155569600@3capp-webde-bs59>
References: <trinity-6e93c31b-f9e1-4cc2-a1cb-24af70f74fd4-1435155569600@3capp-webde-bs59>
Message-ID: <558AC02D.9060401@gmail.com>

I have used USPS to ship to UK, EU, and AUS on several occasions and it 
all went well.  Just keep in mind that local postal and/or customs may 
hold the item for a few days before even notifying the recipient that it 
has arrived.

Some places do not charge the recipient a VAT on Amateur Radio 
gear...it's a good idea to check before sending.

72 de KB9BVN


On 6/24/2015 10:19 AM, ddillenburger at web.de wrote:
> Hi all -
> just wondering if anybody here has had any experience yet with shipping
> Elecraft gear to EU / Germany via USPO services ( i.e.Express Mail Internat.)?
> Costs seem rather favourable compared to UPS rates...time for me wouldn't be
> a major factor.
> Thanks for sharing your ideas, 73!
> (answer off list if you prefer)
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From k4gm at k4gm.com  Wed Jun 24 11:45:18 2015
From: k4gm at k4gm.com (K4GM George)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:45:18 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 for sale
Message-ID: <558AD08E.6040400@k4gm.com>

Factory built K3/100w with auto antenna tuner and two extra filters:  
400hz 8 pole and 2100hz 8 pole.
S/N  2063.  Mint condition and fully working.  Will deliver within a 
reasonable distance or meet you halfway.    $2500 plus you pay 
shipping.   Total recent retail value of comparable unit was 
approximately $3200.  Please reply off list.

George K4GM


From knowkode at verizon.net  Wed Jun 24 11:54:02 2015
From: knowkode at verizon.net (Jim Hoge)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:54:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 w/ straight key
Message-ID: <753353188.176864.1435161242340.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

I have always used my K3 with paddles but today wanted to play with a straight key and a sideswiper. For the life of me, I cannot find out how to turn the keyer off in the manual. The closest I thought I had come was VOX/PTT? and I have also scanned through the config and menu to no avail. Perhaps it is just sleep deprivation preventing me from this but please.... how do I do this?
Tnx es 73,Jim W5QM

From g1mhu at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 24 11:58:22 2015
From: g1mhu at hotmail.com (Robin Moseley)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:58:22 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 w/ straight key
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connect to the Key rather than the paddle socket?

Robin G1MHU

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jim Hoge
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 4:54 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 w/ straight key

I have always used my K3 with paddles but today wanted to play with a 
straight key and a sideswiper. For the life of me, I cannot find out how to 
turn the keyer off in the manual. The closest I thought I had come was 
VOX/PTT  and I have also scanned through the config and menu to no avail. 
Perhaps it is just sleep deprivation preventing me from this but please.... 
how do I do this?
Tnx es 73,Jim W5QM
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From joseph.a.harris at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 12:02:00 2015
From: joseph.a.harris at gmail.com (Joe Harris)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:02:00 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 w/ straight key
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Hi Jim,

I don't know that you would have to turn off the keyer, per se. Just plug
in the straight key to the "key" jack and leave your paddles plugged in to
the "paddle" jack. Then, either would work.

73
Joe, N1QD

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Jim Hoge <knowkode at verizon.net> wrote:

> I have always used my K3 with paddles but today wanted to play with a
> straight key and a sideswiper. For the life of me, I cannot find out how to
> turn the keyer off in the manual. The closest I thought I had come was
> VOX/PTT  and I have also scanned through the config and menu to no avail.
> Perhaps it is just sleep deprivation preventing me from this but please....
> how do I do this?
> Tnx es 73,Jim W5QM
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From wa8jxm at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 12:31:04 2015
From: wa8jxm at gmail.com (WA8JXM)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:31:04 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 w/ straight key
In-Reply-To: <CADEAZWYq1+AxPziYZXEt9mKtdZDaXcpO4sX45eN4JCECos1KuQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <753353188.176864.1435161242340.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CADEAZWYq1+AxPziYZXEt9mKtdZDaXcpO4sX45eN4JCECos1KuQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <558ADB48.2000904@gmail.com>

Correct.  With the K3, you can have a paddle, bug and straight key all 
connected at the same time and switch back and forth between them 
(straight key and bug connected together.)    I have mine set up that 
way.   No configuration changes required.

Ken WA8JXM

On 24/06/2015 12:02, Joe Harris wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> I don't know that you would have to turn off the keyer, per se. Just plug
> in the straight key to the "key" jack and leave your paddles plugged in to
> the "paddle" jack. Then, either would work.
>
> 73
> Joe, N1QD


From knowkode at verizon.net  Wed Jun 24 12:42:10 2015
From: knowkode at verizon.net (Jim Hoge)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:42:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 w/ straight key
Message-ID: <1296566577.199184.1435164130717.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Well that was easy. Tnx guys.
73,Jim W5QM


From droese at necg.de  Wed Jun 24 13:29:36 2015
From: droese at necg.de (=?windows-1252?Q?Oliver_Dr=F6se?=)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 19:29:36 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Reports of intermit bad audio
In-Reply-To: <1435110439416-7604236.post@n2.nabble.com>
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	<1435110439416-7604236.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <558AE900.9020500@necg.de>

And what was the reason of your bad audio?

That might be even more interesting for some readers ... ;-)

73, Olli

Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de


Am 24.06.2015 um 03:47 schrieb KC6CNN:
> I am happy to report that my awesome audio is back.
> Thank you Howard, Wayne, and Eric for your outstanding customer service.
> All is great with my K3 now.
> It still amazes me and it floored a couple of other hams that were here in
> my shack when Wayne returned my e-mail. They were like " That is one of the
> owners", I was like yeah. They could not believe that a simple guy like me
> could get one of the owners to e-mail me back. I laughed and told them that
> I had exchanged e-mails with both owners and had even spoken to them on the
> phone.
> One of the hams laughed and said yeah try that with any of the big three.
> Then said he believed he was going to sell his radio and purchase a new K3.
> I explained the new K3s to him and told him he would not miss the old radio.
> Got off subject here sorry.
> Thanks again Elecraft for the outstanding Customer Service.
> Thank you
> Gerald Manthey - KC6CNN
>
>
>
>
> -----
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> K2 # 5486
> K3 # 6294
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From droese at necg.de  Wed Jun 24 13:35:14 2015
From: droese at necg.de (=?windows-1252?Q?Oliver_Dr=F6se?=)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 19:35:14 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Reports of intermit bad audio
In-Reply-To: <558AE900.9020500@necg.de>
References: <1434862468176-7604142.post@n2.nabble.com>	<1435110439416-7604236.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<558AE900.9020500@necg.de>
Message-ID: <558AEA52.50706@necg.de>

Just saw the answer already posted, sorry for the bandwidth ... 73, Olli



Am 24.06.2015 um 19:29 schrieb Oliver Dr?se:
> And what was the reason of your bad audio?
>
> That might be even more interesting for some readers ... ;-)
>
> 73, Olli
>
> Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de
>
>
> Am 24.06.2015 um 03:47 schrieb KC6CNN:
>> I am happy to report that my awesome audio is back.
>> Thank you Howard, Wayne, and Eric for your outstanding customer service.
>> All is great with my K3 now.
>> It still amazes me and it floored a couple of other hams that were 
>> here in
>> my shack when Wayne returned my e-mail. They were like " That is one 
>> of the
>> owners", I was like yeah. They could not believe that a simple guy 
>> like me
>> could get one of the owners to e-mail me back. I laughed and told 
>> them that
>> I had exchanged e-mails with both owners and had even spoken to them 
>> on the
>> phone.
>> One of the hams laughed and said yeah try that with any of the big 
>> three.
>> Then said he believed he was going to sell his radio and purchase a 
>> new K3.
>> I explained the new K3s to him and told him he would not miss the old 
>> radio.
>> Got off subject here sorry.
>> Thanks again Elecraft for the outstanding Customer Service.
>> Thank you
>> Gerald Manthey - KC6CNN
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> KC6CNN - Gerald
>> K2 # 5486
>> K3 # 6294
>> KX3 # 757
>> -- 
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From scott.manthe at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 13:36:19 2015
From: scott.manthe at gmail.com (Scott Manthe)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:36:19 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Reports of intermit bad audio
In-Reply-To: <558AE900.9020500@necg.de>
References: <1434862468176-7604142.post@n2.nabble.com>	<1435110439416-7604236.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<558AE900.9020500@necg.de>
Message-ID: <558AEA93.2070509@gmail.com>

Gerald posted the reason a few posts down, Olli.

73,
Scott N9AA

On 6/24/15 1:28 AM, KC6CNN wrote:
> Howard told me that if I removed the
> fans and circuit breaker panel off of the back side I would be able to see
> where the amp connected in. Howard e-mailed me two pictures one the correct
> way and the other was one they had found the caused a similar problem. I
> pulled the plate off of my radio and sure enough the amplifier was not
> seated all the way down in the connector. I pushed down on the amp board and
> it seated completely with the connecting board. I then loosened all the
> screws on both the board and the amp and made sure they were seated and then
> retightened the screws. My K3 is now functioning great.


On 6/24/15 1:29 PM, Oliver Dr?se wrote:
> And what was the reason of your bad audio?
>
> That might be even more interesting for some readers ... ;-)
>
> 73, Olli
>
> Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de
>
>


From montys at mindspring.com  Wed Jun 24 13:59:51 2015
From: montys at mindspring.com (MontyS)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:59:51 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
In-Reply-To: <447841405.273707.1435154243555.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1435151446143-7604252.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<447841405.273707.1435154243555.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5563DE3C1B4C483594FD15976DC4AF4D@OfficePCNUC>

Do not click this link.  The final "DC" should be omitted to get to the 
correct page.
Monty K2DLJ

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mel Farrer via Elecraft
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 9:57 AM
To: ok1rp ; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply

You will find this power supply under many labels.  Here is one in the US. 
http://www.lightobject.com/DC-12V-29A-Switching-Power-Supply-Good-for-CNC-stepping-motor-and-Ham-Radio-P442.aspxDC 
12V 29A Switching Power Supply. Good for CNC stepping motor and Ham Radio
|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| DC 12V 29A Switching Power Supply. Good for CNC step... |
|  |
| View on www.lightobject.com | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |

  Notice the physical layout and general labeling is Identical to you 
Megawatt unit, this one is Coldfusion.  Like the Megawatt, very little RFI. 
This one has the thermal sensing on the fan.


Mel, K6KBE
      From: ok1rp <indians at xsmail.com>
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply

Hi,

try this one:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/other-mfrs/megawatt-ps/megawatt-ps.html
http://www.12voltpowersupplies.us/

Even although I am using always linear PSUs for powering my radios I tested
some time ago this unit and it was noiseless and quiet. Also You can find
several good user reports so it sounds like good solution.

You should stay away from offshore clones only...

Hope it helps,
73 - Petr, OK1RP




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From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Wed Jun 24 14:04:40 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Mel Farrer via Elecraft)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:04:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
In-Reply-To: <5563DE3C1B4C483594FD15976DC4AF4D@OfficePCNUC>
References: <5563DE3C1B4C483594FD15976DC4AF4D@OfficePCNUC>
Message-ID: <1160400672.465902.1435169080714.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Sorry Monty and all.? Fingers must have slipped.
Mel, K6KBE

      From: MontyS <montys at mindspring.com>
 To: Mel Farrer <farrerfolks at yahoo.com> 
Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
   
Do not click this link.? The final "DC" should be omitted to get to the 
correct page.
Monty K2DLJ

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mel Farrer via Elecraft
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 9:57 AM
To: ok1rp ; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply

You will find this power supply under many labels.? Here is one in the US. 
http://www.lightobject.com/DC-12V-29A-Switching-Power-Supply-Good-for-CNC-stepping-motor-and-Ham-Radio-P442.aspxDC 
12V 29A Switching Power Supply. Good for CNC stepping motor and Ham Radio
|? |
|? |? |? |? |? |? |? |
| DC 12V 29A Switching Power Supply. Good for CNC step... |
|? |
| View on www.lightobject.com | Preview by Yahoo |
|? |
|? |

? Notice the physical layout and general labeling is Identical to you 
Megawatt unit, this one is Coldfusion.? Like the Megawatt, very little RFI. 
This one has the thermal sensing on the fan.


Mel, K6KBE
? ? ? From: ok1rp <indians at xsmail.com>
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply

Hi,

try this one:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/other-mfrs/megawatt-ps/megawatt-ps.html
http://www.12voltpowersupplies.us/

Even although I am using always linear PSUs for powering my radios I tested
some time ago this unit and it was noiseless and quiet. Also You can find
several good user reports so it sounds like good solution.

You should stay away from offshore clones only...

Hope it helps,
73 - Petr, OK1RP




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From montys at mindspring.com  Wed Jun 24 14:07:36 2015
From: montys at mindspring.com (MontyS)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:07:36 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
In-Reply-To: <447841405.273707.1435154243555.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1435151446143-7604252.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<447841405.273707.1435154243555.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F61455E6EAA348BCBCF620BD56C8C2F3@OfficePCNUC>

On Amazon.com for under $24.00.

Monty K2DLJ

You will find this power supply under many labels.  Here is one in the US. 
http://www.lightobject.com/DC-12V-29A-Switching-Power-Supply-Good-for-CNC-stepping-motor-and-Ham-Radio-P442.aspx. 
DC 12V 29A Switching Power Supply. Good for CNC stepping motor and Ham Radio

  Notice the physical layout and general labeling is Identical to you 
Megawatt unit, this one is Coldfusion.  Like the Megawatt, very little RFI. 
This one has the thermal sensing on the fan. 


From ReillyJF at comcast.net  Wed Jun 24 14:14:47 2015
From: ReillyJF at comcast.net (John Reilly)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:14:47 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B
Message-ID: <558AF397.3060000@comcast.net>

Any idea when the KIO3B will be available for non-K3s'?
   - 73, John, N0TA

From n6kr at elecraft.com  Wed Jun 24 20:42:08 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:42:08 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KBPF3 upgrade kit and instructions now available
Message-ID: <9A09B710-8ECD-4450-975E-00523EC7E360@elecraft.com>

Hi all,

The long-promised KBPF3 modification kit is now available. It applies to the KBPF3, K3 RF board, and optionally to the KRX3 sub receiver. It allows the K3 or K3S to receive signals in the 100-500 kHz range with good sensitivity. This is an interesting part of the spectrum, with 

For full details on the mod kit, see:

   http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm#K3%20Parts

Also see below for an excerpt from my original posting about signals in the 100-500 kHz range.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


* * *

In honor of the FCC's proposed "2200 meter" allocation (137 kHz), we decided to see if we could improve the K3's receive sensitivity in the 100-500 kHz range. This extended coverage is made possible by the new synth (KSYN3A). 

After a lot of digging, we discovered the cause of the wide-band low-frequency noise. We also found a way to shift the passband of the KBPF3 lower. 

With a couple of simple modifications, the MDS (minimum discernible signal) can be improved by about 25 dB at the low end (100 kHz). Here are some test results (preamp off, 400-Hz bandwidth): 

137 kHz -114 dBm FCC's proposed 2200 meter band
160 kHz -117 dBm low end of the "Low-Fer" band
250 kHz -126 dBm test frequency in the long-wave beacon band
472 kHz -133 dBm 630 meter experimental band

This represents an improvement throughout the range, but especially at the low end. I believe -114 dBm MDS should suffice at 137 kHz, given the high band noise in this range. 

Another indication of how well the mods work: With no antenna connoted, the K3's S-meter now just barely flickers (S1) at 100 kHz. Without the mods, the no-antenna S-meter reading could be as high as S7 due to the noise source we've now identified (a voltage regulator). (By the way, this regulator noise had no impact on frequencies about about 500 kHz.)

...


From lists at subich.com  Wed Jun 24 20:59:35 2015
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 20:59:35 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KBPF3 upgrade kit and instructions now available
In-Reply-To: <9A09B710-8ECD-4450-975E-00523EC7E360@elecraft.com>
References: <9A09B710-8ECD-4450-975E-00523EC7E360@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <558B5277.8040009@subich.com>


Neither the instructions nor the errata speak to the regulator bypass
in the KRX3.  The "instructions" do not provide information in either
bypass.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-06-24 8:42 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The long-promised KBPF3 modification kit is now available. It applies to the KBPF3, K3 RF board, and optionally to the KRX3 sub receiver. It allows the K3 or K3S to receive signals in the 100-500 kHz range with good sensitivity. This is an interesting part of the spectrum, with
>
> For full details on the mod kit, see:
>
>     http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm#K3%20Parts
>
> Also see below for an excerpt from my original posting about signals in the 100-500 kHz range.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> * * *
>
> In honor of the FCC's proposed "2200 meter" allocation (137 kHz), we decided to see if we could improve the K3's receive sensitivity in the 100-500 kHz range. This extended coverage is made possible by the new synth (KSYN3A).
>
> After a lot of digging, we discovered the cause of the wide-band low-frequency noise. We also found a way to shift the passband of the KBPF3 lower.
>
> With a couple of simple modifications, the MDS (minimum discernible signal) can be improved by about 25 dB at the low end (100 kHz). Here are some test results (preamp off, 400-Hz bandwidth):
>
> 137 kHz -114 dBm FCC's proposed 2200 meter band
> 160 kHz -117 dBm low end of the "Low-Fer" band
> 250 kHz -126 dBm test frequency in the long-wave beacon band
> 472 kHz -133 dBm 630 meter experimental band
>
> This represents an improvement throughout the range, but especially at the low end. I believe -114 dBm MDS should suffice at 137 kHz, given the high band noise in this range.
>
> Another indication of how well the mods work: With no antenna connoted, the K3's S-meter now just barely flickers (S1) at 100 kHz. Without the mods, the no-antenna S-meter reading could be as high as S7 due to the noise source we've now identified (a voltage regulator). (By the way, this regulator noise had no impact on frequencies about about 500 kHz.)
>
> ...
>
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Wed Jun 24 21:15:27 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:15:27 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] KBPF3 upgrade kit and instructions now
	available
In-Reply-To: <9A09B710-8ECD-4450-975E-00523EC7E360@elecraft.com>
References: <9A09B710-8ECD-4450-975E-00523EC7E360@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <8B9D6A44-4607-46C1-A4BE-B231387ECDA4@elecraft.com>

Looks like the wrong instruction sheet was linked to the order page. We'll get this updated ASAP and will post when it has been corrected.

Wayne


On Jun 24, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com [Elecraft_K3] <Elecraft_K3 at yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> The long-promised KBPF3 modification kit is now available. 






From w7ox at socal.rr.com  Wed Jun 24 21:36:36 2015
From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:36:36 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] KBPF3 upgrade kit and instructions now
 available
In-Reply-To: <8B9D6A44-4607-46C1-A4BE-B231387ECDA4@elecraft.com>
References: <9A09B710-8ECD-4450-975E-00523EC7E360@elecraft.com>
	<8B9D6A44-4607-46C1-A4BE-B231387ECDA4@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <558B5B24.9000300@socal.rr.com>

But the errata is sure intriguing, Wayne :-)

73, Phil W7OX

On 6/24/15 6:15 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Looks like the wrong instruction sheet was linked to the order page. We'll get this updated ASAP and will post when it has been corrected.
>
> Wayne
>
>
> On Jun 24, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Wayne Burdick n6kr at elecraft.com [Elecraft_K3] <Elecraft_K3 at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The long-promised KBPF3 modification kit is now available.


From inventor61 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 22:18:41 2015
From: inventor61 at gmail.com (inventor61 .)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 22:18:41 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] ideas for re-purposing our old K3 synthesizers
Message-ID: <CAHmQzT=3YUhFM=aQySg-DvUP_23ueUSOb9cTtwyKGPi=XdqCQw@mail.gmail.com>

I printed out the schematic of the original K3 synthesizer module.  The
diagram says 'rev. A4' and is dated 8 Jan 2010.  Hope that's close to the
as-built!  (probably is)

This gizmo appears to have an output range from 8.7 to 46 MHz.  I don't
know how much sauce it can develop but I have to imagine +10 dBm or so into
50 ohms, I bet it's flat across that range, and it looks like the thing
would be whistle-clean.

To get that, it needs a tight 49.38 MHz reference oscillator (I found a
0.5PPM TCXO for ~$30 from mainland China), and several common DC supply
voltages.

It also needs a small microcontroller or other way of providing the correct
serial peripheral interface command lines and interaction.  That processor
would also control the output frequency, perhaps with an encoder, or
whatever human interface might make sense.

But first, I am trying to see if developing a 'host' PCB would even be
fiscally wise to design and construct.  I mean, who needs a 8.7 to 46 MHz
VFO?

And, how mad would Eric or Wayne be with me about the ... um ...
semi-inverse engineering research ... I'd have to do to make this thing
operate?

On the other hand, I wager there's a thousand-plus of these modules sitting
around the planet looking for something to do.  The capitalist in me is
intrigued.

So, a bit of market investigation here:

a)  what would you do with such a device if you had one?  bench signal
generator?  beacon transmitter?  VFO for another radio?

b)  would you pay, say, $100 for a host board to operate your now-surplus
synthesizer?

c)  if someone *else *needed YOUR spare module for THEIR project, what
would you be willing to sell it to them for?  Free?  $25?  More?

73 es tnx
Steve KZ1X/4
<kz1x at  yahoo . com>

From vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk  Wed Jun 24 22:40:11 2015
From: vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk (Johnny Siu)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 02:40:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft]  [K3] ideas for re-purposing our old K3 synthesizers
In-Reply-To: <CAHmQzT=3YUhFM=aQySg-DvUP_23ueUSOb9cTtwyKGPi=XdqCQw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHmQzT=3YUhFM=aQySg-DvUP_23ueUSOb9cTtwyKGPi=XdqCQw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50024397.456701.1435200011062.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Well, USD25 for the old synthesizers is good enough for me and I will be happy to sell it.
However, I cannot think of any interesting project for it.
73
Johnny VR2XMC
      ???? inventor61 . <inventor61 at gmail.com>
 ???? elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
 ????? 2015?06?25? (??) 10:18 AM
 ??? [Elecraft] [K3] ideas for re-purposing our old K3 synthesizers
   
I printed out the schematic of the original K3 synthesizer module.? The
diagram says 'rev. A4' and is dated 8 Jan 2010.? Hope that's close to the
as-built!? (probably is)

This gizmo appears to have an output range from 8.7 to 46 MHz.? I don't
know how much sauce it can develop but I have to imagine +10 dBm or so into
50 ohms, I bet it's flat across that range, and it looks like the thing
would be whistle-clean.

To get that, it needs a tight 49.38 MHz reference oscillator (I found a
0.5PPM TCXO for ~$30 from mainland China), and several common DC supply
voltages.

It also needs a small microcontroller or other way of providing the correct
serial peripheral interface command lines and interaction.? That processor
would also control the output frequency, perhaps with an encoder, or
whatever human interface might make sense.

But first, I am trying to see if developing a 'host' PCB would even be
fiscally wise to design and construct.? I mean, who needs a 8.7 to 46 MHz
VFO?

And, how mad would Eric or Wayne be with me about the ... um ...
semi-inverse engineering research ... I'd have to do to make this thing
operate?

On the other hand, I wager there's a thousand-plus of these modules sitting
around the planet looking for something to do.? The capitalist in me is
intrigued.

So, a bit of market investigation here:

a)? what would you do with such a device if you had one?? bench signal
generator?? beacon transmitter?? VFO for another radio?

b)? would you pay, say, $100 for a host board to operate your now-surplus
synthesizer?

c)? if someone *else *needed YOUR spare module for THEIR project, what
would you be willing to sell it to them for?? Free?? $25?? More?

73 es tnx
Steve KZ1X/4
<kz1x at? yahoo . com>


  

From mteberle at mchsi.com  Thu Jun 25 00:23:05 2015
From: mteberle at mchsi.com (Michael Eberle)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 23:23:05 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KBPF3 upgrade kit and instructions now available
In-Reply-To: <9A09B710-8ECD-4450-975E-00523EC7E360@elecraft.com>
References: <9A09B710-8ECD-4450-975E-00523EC7E360@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <558B8229.1070207@mchsi.com>


Will new orders for the KBPF3 have the modification already done or 
would one need to purchase both the KBPF3 and the KBPF3MDKT if they 
wanted to receive 100-500 kHz?

Mike
KI0HA

On 6/24/2015 7:42 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The long-promised KBPF3 modification kit is now available. It applies to the KBPF3, K3 RF board, and optionally to the KRX3 sub receiver. It allows the K3 or K3S to receive signals in the 100-500 kHz range with good sensitivity. This is an interesting part of the spectrum, with
>
> For full detailms on the mod kit, see:
>
>     http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm#K3%20Parts
>
> Also see below for an excerpt from my original posting about signals in the 100-500 kHz range.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>


From n6kr at elecraft.com  Thu Jun 25 00:34:32 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 21:34:32 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KBPF3 upgrade kit and instructions now available
In-Reply-To: <558B8229.1070207@mchsi.com>
References: <9A09B710-8ECD-4450-975E-00523EC7E360@elecraft.com>
	<558B8229.1070207@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <3261863A-13BE-49EC-BD97-94B40C5E0A90@elecraft.com>


On Jun 24, 2015, at 9:23 PM, Michael Eberle <mteberle at mchsi.com> wrote:

> 
> Will new orders for the KBPF3 have the modification already done?

Yes. That's the KBPF3A.

Wayne
N6KR





From ebasilier at cox.net  Thu Jun 25 00:34:38 2015
From: ebasilier at cox.net (Erik Basilier)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 21:34:38 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] LINE OUT level
Message-ID: <029d01d0af00$3ee748b0$bcb5da10$@cox.net>

With the K3 Line out connected to a sound card, watching a waterfall, the K3
speaker volume control affects the waterfall volume, but the Config LIN OUT
level has no effect on the waterfall. What am I missing?

Thanks,

Erik K7TV


From n6kr at elecraft.com  Thu Jun 25 01:06:43 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 22:06:43 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] ideas for re-purposing our old K3 synthesizers
In-Reply-To: <CAHmQzT=3YUhFM=aQySg-DvUP_23ueUSOb9cTtwyKGPi=XdqCQw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHmQzT=3YUhFM=aQySg-DvUP_23ueUSOb9cTtwyKGPi=XdqCQw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5DF86950-412E-4BC1-A2FA-EE0ECD4B320A@elecraft.com>

Hi Steve,

Not to throw cold water on this, but.... the original KSYN3 requires a ton of firmware support, including a hand-tweaked table of thousands of PLL divider values pre-calculated and stored in flash memory. We shoehorn the DDS reference signal through a 3-kHz wide crystal filter in order to ensure no close-in spurs, then adjust the PLL divider values in real time so there are no gaps in the tuning range despite a nominal 20-kHz PLL step size. Lots of idiosyncratic math, and a critical calibration step ("VCO CAL"). 

So if each of your repurposed KSYN3s comes with a K3 front panel MCU and flash, no problem :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jun 24, 2015, at 7:18 PM, inventor61 . <inventor61 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I printed out the schematic of the original K3 synthesizer module.  The
> diagram says 'rev. A4' and is dated 8 Jan 2010.  Hope that's close to the
> as-built!  (probably is)
> 
> This gizmo appears to have an output range from 8.7 to 46 MHz.  I don't
> know how much sauce it can develop but I have to imagine +10 dBm or so into
> 50 ohms, I bet it's flat across that range, and it looks like the thing
> would be whistle-clean.
> 
> To get that, it needs a tight 49.38 MHz reference oscillator (I found a
> 0.5PPM TCXO for ~$30 from mainland China), and several common DC supply
> voltages.
> 
> It also needs a small microcontroller or other way of providing the correct
> serial peripheral interface command lines and interaction.  That processor
> would also control the output frequency, perhaps with an encoder, or
> whatever human interface might make sense?.



From eric at elecraft.com  Thu Jun 25 01:48:08 2015
From: eric at elecraft.com (Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 07:48:08 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B
In-Reply-To: <558AF397.3060000@comcast.net>
References: <558AF397.3060000@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <FADB4865-102A-46D0-93D3-E3BB71EB973A@elecraft.com>

Later this year. We are maxed getting K3S radios out the door and also need to focus on parts for those radios first as we ramp up. 

Eric
elecraft.com
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> On Jun 24, 2015, at 8:14 PM, John Reilly <ReillyJF at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Any idea when the KIO3B will be available for non-K3s'?
>  - 73, John, N0TA
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From indians at xsmail.com  Thu Jun 25 06:12:38 2015
From: indians at xsmail.com (ok1rp)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 03:12:38 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
In-Reply-To: <F61455E6EAA348BCBCF620BD56C8C2F3@OfficePCNUC>
References: <0D7D4F6B-0BD6-4B93-B0A6-850C0DECA359@att.net>
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Hi Monty,

can You send the link to Amazon for that price please?
My friend from local radioclub is interesting in it.
I found lowest for $35 from Geetech only.

Mni thanks.

73 - Petr, OK1RP




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From n1ix at n1ix.com  Thu Jun 25 06:25:58 2015
From: n1ix at n1ix.com (n1ix at n1ix.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 06:25:58 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] WTB K3/10 or K3/100
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I found one!! Thanks for all the responses.

Dave N1IX

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Subject: [Elecraft] WTB K3/10 or K3/100

I am looking for a K3/10 or minimally configured K3/100 to use as a second
radio for SO2R.

If you want to upgrade to the new K3S I may be in the market for your
existing K3.

 

Please contact me off list. 

 

Dave N1IX

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From lists at subich.com  Thu Jun 25 08:15:32 2015
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 08:15:32 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] LINE OUT level
In-Reply-To: <029d01d0af00$3ee748b0$bcb5da10$@cox.net>
References: <029d01d0af00$3ee748b0$bcb5da10$@cox.net>
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Is Config:LINE Out = PHONES?

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-06-25 12:34 AM, Erik Basilier wrote:
> With the K3 Line out connected to a sound card, watching a waterfall, the K3
> speaker volume control affects the waterfall volume, but the Config LIN OUT
> level has no effect on the waterfall. What am I missing?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Erik K7TV
>
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From lists at subich.com  Thu Jun 25 08:19:21 2015
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 08:19:21 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KBPF3 upgrade kit and instructions now available
In-Reply-To: <3261863A-13BE-49EC-BD97-94B40C5E0A90@elecraft.com>
References: <9A09B710-8ECD-4450-975E-00523EC7E360@elecraft.com>
	<558B8229.1070207@mchsi.com>
	<3261863A-13BE-49EC-BD97-94B40C5E0A90@elecraft.com>
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However, if you are installing a KBPF3A in an existing K3 you
will still want to add the bypass capacitors to the regulators
on the main board and in the KRX3 if installed.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-06-25 12:34 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>
> On Jun 24, 2015, at 9:23 PM, Michael Eberle <mteberle at mchsi.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Will new orders for the KBPF3 have the modification already done?
>
> Yes. That's the KBPF3A.
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>
>
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From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Thu Jun 25 09:14:37 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Ken_ke2n via Elecraft)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 06:14:37 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards
In-Reply-To: <149de47b36bf4e8c8e833c8f4912bfa3@SEHSTE15D2BE6.hs20.net>
References: <149de47b36bf4e8c8e833c8f4912bfa3@SEHSTE15D2BE6.hs20.net>
Message-ID: <1435238077650-7604287.post@n2.nabble.com>

My K3 with the new synth (and upgraded DSP board) has an unfortunate "birdy"
on 50.276 (unfortunate because this is the JT65 calling frequency in the
US).  I know it is a DSP-type artifact because the pitch of the birdy
changes with the IF Shift control.  The IF shift control does not change the
frequency of the signal, just the birdy. This phenomenon is actually useful.
By shifting the center frequency to 1.35 kHz I can move the spur down to
zero beat. And, like all spurs, the pitch of the spur changes a lot faster
than the tuning rate of the radio. The pitch of the spur also varies with
the setting of the crystal filter offset (mine is set at 200 Hz).



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From edauer at law.du.edu  Thu Jun 25 09:28:04 2015
From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:28:04 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] ideas for re-purposing our old K3 synthesizers
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15770.1435206874.22967.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <D1B15D34.107C0%edauer@law.du.edu>

Postage only for both of mine.

Ted, KN1CBR


>------------------------------
>
>Message: 25
>Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 22:18:41 -0400
>From: "inventor61 ." <inventor61 at gmail.com>
>To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] ideas for re-purposing our old K3
>	synthesizers
>Message-ID:
>	<CAHmQzT=3YUhFM=aQySg-DvUP_23ueUSOb9cTtwyKGPi=XdqCQw at mail.gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
>I printed out the schematic of the original K3 synthesizer module.  The
>diagram says 'rev. A4' and is dated 8 Jan 2010.  Hope that's close to the
>as-built!  (probably is)
>
>This gizmo appears to have an output range from 8.7 to 46 MHz.  I don't
>know how much sauce it can develop but I have to imagine +10 dBm or so
>into
>50 ohms, I bet it's flat across that range, and it looks like the thing
>would be whistle-clean.
>
>To get that, it needs a tight 49.38 MHz reference oscillator (I found a
>0.5PPM TCXO for ~$30 from mainland China), and several common DC supply
>voltages.
>
>It also needs a small microcontroller or other way of providing the
>correct
>serial peripheral interface command lines and interaction.  That processor
>would also control the output frequency, perhaps with an encoder, or
>whatever human interface might make sense.
>
>But first, I am trying to see if developing a 'host' PCB would even be
>fiscally wise to design and construct.  I mean, who needs a 8.7 to 46 MHz
>VFO?
>
>And, how mad would Eric or Wayne be with me about the ... um ...
>semi-inverse engineering research ... I'd have to do to make this thing
>operate?
>
>On the other hand, I wager there's a thousand-plus of these modules
>sitting
>around the planet looking for something to do.  The capitalist in me is
>intrigued.
>
>So, a bit of market investigation here:
>
>a)  what would you do with such a device if you had one?  bench signal
>generator?  beacon transmitter?  VFO for another radio?
>
>b)  would you pay, say, $100 for a host board to operate your now-surplus
>synthesizer?
>
>c)  if someone *else *needed YOUR spare module for THEIR project, what
>would you be willing to sell it to them for?  Free?  $25?  More?
>
>73 es tnx
>Steve KZ1X/4
><kz1x at  yahoo . com>
>


From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Thu Jun 25 09:28:34 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Ken_ke2n via Elecraft)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 06:28:34 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Monitor Audio
Message-ID: <1435238914771-7604288.post@n2.nabble.com>

I have been scratching my head over some issues with the monitor audio (as
heard in line out and the speaker) while running FSK441 in TX DATA / DATA A. 
It seems  not to be a faithful reproduction of what goes into the line in
jack. But, skipping the finer points for now, one thing that had me
concerned was a break in the audio stream every 15 seconds or so.  I was
concerned this was some problem with my PC or audio card. It turns out that
the K3 updates the PA temperature reading every so often and, when it reads
the temperature, it stops making audio (!). 

As far as I can tell, the output of the radio does not drop during this
break, just the local audio.

I wonder if this is the expected behavior?

Ken




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From w7ox at socal.rr.com  Thu Jun 25 10:02:50 2015
From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 07:02:50 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] ideas for re-purposing our old K3 synthesizers
In-Reply-To: <5DF86950-412E-4BC1-A2FA-EE0ECD4B320A@elecraft.com>
References: <CAHmQzT=3YUhFM=aQySg-DvUP_23ueUSOb9cTtwyKGPi=XdqCQw@mail.gmail.com>
	<5DF86950-412E-4BC1-A2FA-EE0ECD4B320A@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <558C0A0A.7040703@socal.rr.com>

Ah, but the original KSYN3 does have a nice chunk 
of Aluminum attached :-)

73, Phil W7OX

On 6/24/15 10:06 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> Not to throw cold water on this, but.... the original KSYN3 requires a ton of firmware support, including a hand-tweaked table of thousands of PLL divider values pre-calculated and stored in flash memory. We shoehorn the DDS reference signal through a 3-kHz wide crystal filter in order to ensure no close-in spurs, then adjust the PLL divider values in real time so there are no gaps in the tuning range despite a nominal 20-kHz PLL step size. Lots of idiosyncratic math, and a critical calibration step ("VCO CAL").
>
> So if each of your repurposed KSYN3s comes with a K3 front panel MCU and flash, no problem :)
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR


From lists at subich.com  Thu Jun 25 10:11:17 2015
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 10:11:17 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards
In-Reply-To: <1435238077650-7604287.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <149de47b36bf4e8c8e833c8f4912bfa3@SEHSTE15D2BE6.hs20.net>
	<1435238077650-7604287.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <558C0C05.2040909@subich.com>


The spur also changes with bandwidth.  In my K3 it happens to fall at
50.279.00 with FC=1.50, BW=2.80 in DATA_A when the rig is at 50.276.00.
When going to FC=2.20, BW=4.00 the "spur" moves to ~50.285.5 and in
USB "NORM" it falls at 50.275.71 (zero beat).  Again, this is fortunate
in that the spur is equivalent to a -96 dBm signal as measured on the
P3 and would be a killer if it fell "in band".

I see additional (bothersome) spurs at 50.047.57 (-100 dBm), 50,082.72
(-116 dBm), 50.095.32 (-119 dBm), 50.102.04 (-116 dBm), 50.110.52 (-118
dBm), 50.111.65 (-120 dBm), 50.112.78 (-120 dBm), 50.150.26 (-110 dBm),
50.193.57 (-103 dBm), 50.222.56 (-119 dBm),  50.351.35 (-119 dBm),
50.390.82 (-119 dBm), 50.393.90 (-110 dBm), 50.435.85 (-119 dBm),
50.465.09 (-120 dBm), and 50.486.11 (-120 dBm) - frequencies are zero
beat in USB with DSP = norm.  Measurements were made with dummy load
and PRE_1 in K3 s/n 1450 with 2x KSYN3A and KXV3B.

"Bothersome" to me is > 6 dB above the receiver noise floor under the
measurement conditions described.  I have not attempted to catalog
spurs on the other bands.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-06-25 9:14 AM, Ken_ke2n via Elecraft wrote:
> My K3 with the new synth (and upgraded DSP board) has an unfortunate "birdy"
> on 50.276 (unfortunate because this is the JT65 calling frequency in the
> US).  I know it is a DSP-type artifact because the pitch of the birdy
> changes with the IF Shift control.  The IF shift control does not change the
> frequency of the signal, just the birdy. This phenomenon is actually useful.
> By shifting the center frequency to 1.35 kHz I can move the spur down to
> zero beat. And, like all spurs, the pitch of the spur changes a lot faster
> than the tuning rate of the radio. The pitch of the spur also varies with
> the setting of the crystal filter offset (mine is set at 200 Hz).
>
>
>
> -----
> 73
> Ken
>
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Thu Jun 25 12:13:25 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 09:13:25 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KBPF3 upgrade kit and instructions [Corrected]
Message-ID: <FC1D78BB-47E4-4853-9E2F-FA6797304AF4@elecraft.com>

The correct instruction sheet is now available on the order page for the KBPF3 mod kit. You may need to hit "refresh" on your browser to see the corrected link.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



* * *

The long-promised KBPF3 modification kit is now available. It applies to the KBPF3, K3 RF board, and optionally to the KRX3 sub receiver. It allows the K3 or K3S to receive signals in the 100-500 kHz range with good sensitivity.  

For full details on the mod kit, see:

  http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm#K3%20Parts

Also see below for an excerpt from my original posting about signals in the 100-500 kHz range.

* * *

In honor of the FCC's proposed "2200 meter" allocation (137 kHz), we decided to see if we could improve the K3's receive sensitivity in the 100-500 kHz range. This extended coverage is made possible by the new synth (KSYN3A). 

After a lot of digging, we discovered the cause of the wide-band low-frequency noise. We also found a way to shift the passband of the KBPF3 lower. 

With a couple of simple modifications, the MDS (minimum discernible signal) can be improved by about 25 dB at the low end (100 kHz). Here are some test results (preamp off, 400-Hz bandwidth): 

137 kHz -114 dBm FCC's proposed 2200 meter band
160 kHz -117 dBm low end of the "Low-Fer" band
250 kHz -126 dBm test frequency in the long-wave beacon band
472 kHz -133 dBm 630 meter experimental band

This represents an improvement throughout the range, but especially at the low end. I believe -114 dBm MDS should suffice at 137 kHz, given the high band noise in this range. 

Another indication of how well the mods work: With no antenna connoted, the K3's S-meter now just barely flickers (S1) at 100 kHz. Without the mods, the no-antenna S-meter reading could be as high as S7 due to the noise source we've now identified (a voltage regulator). (By the way, this regulator noise had no impact on frequencies about about 500 kHz.)

...


From edauer at law.du.edu  Thu Jun 25 12:11:19 2015
From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:11:19 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KBPF3A and KBPF3B
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15770.1435206874.22967.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <D1B18085.107F5%edauer@law.du.edu>

So, just to be sure I have this right:

If I have the NEW KSYN3A synth in an old K3, and if I still have the OLD
KXV3A, then replacing the KBPF3A with the NEW KBPF3B will give me all of
the enhanced performance available on 100 - 500 Khz?

I am thinking of replacing the KBPF3 rather than doing the mod on the old
one because I have never done surface mount work and in my dotage can?t
trust myself not to make a mess of it; and because shipping the K3 back to
the factory for the mod may not be worthwhile compared to just replacing
the bandpass filter . . . . due to the down-time.

Izzat right, that replacing the bandpass filter now will do it all?

Thanks,

Ted, KN1CBR


>Message: 27
>Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 23:23:05 -0500
>From: Michael Eberle <mteberle at mchsi.com>
>To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KBPF3 upgrade kit and instructions now
>	available
>Message-ID: <558B8229.1070207 at mchsi.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
>
>Will new orders for the KBPF3 have the modification already done or
>would one need to purchase both the KBPF3 and the KBPF3MDKT if they
>wanted to receive 100-500 kHz?
>
>Mike
>KI0HA
>
>On 6/24/2015 7:42 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The long-promised KBPF3 modification kit is now available. It applies
>>to the KBPF3, K3 RF board, and optionally to the KRX3 sub receiver. It
>>allows the K3 or K3S to receive signals in the 100-500 kHz range with
>>good sensitivity. This is an interesting part of the spectrum, with
>>
>> For full detailms on the mod kit, see:
>>
>>     http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm#K3%20Parts
>>
>> Also see below for an excerpt from my original posting about signals in
>>the 100-500 kHz range.
>>
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>>


From nq5t at tx.rr.com  Thu Jun 25 12:29:43 2015
From: nq5t at tx.rr.com (GRANT YOUNGMAN)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:29:43 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KBPF3A and KBPF3B
In-Reply-To: <D1B18085.107F5%edauer@law.du.edu>
References: <D1B18085.107F5%edauer@law.du.edu>
Message-ID: <63184D6B-70A0-4A1F-B7CC-4D2094C1BCCD@tx.rr.com>

There is also a change on the RF Board that has to be made (or the KRX3 - depending on where your KBPF3 is installed), in addition to the KBPF3 update or replacement.

Grant NQ5T


> On Jun 25, 2015, at 11:11 AM, Dauer, Edward <edauer at law.du.edu> wrote:
> 
> So, just to be sure I have this right:
> 
> If I have the NEW KSYN3A synth in an old K3, and if I still have the OLD
> KXV3A, then replacing the KBPF3A with the NEW KBPF3B will give me all of
> the enhanced performance available on 100 - 500 Khz?
> 


From w6jhb at me.com  Thu Jun 25 12:37:38 2015
From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 09:37:38 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem
Message-ID: <B63AFDB9-A045-4358-932F-B7982B50B0E1@me.com>

Have a KX3 and PX3 that have been working fine - until this morning. Today I am unable to have the KX3 connect to my computer if the PX3 is powered on. If I turn off the PX3, the KX3 serial - USB connections works fine. As soon as the PX3 is powered on, the connection goes away. I'm using Elecraft-supplied cables, not off-brands. The PX3 Utility cannot connect to the PX3 with the KX3 on or with it off. Other than the connection to my iMac being hosed, the PX3 and KX3 appear to be working just fine.

Any suggestions how to determine what's going on?

Tnx, Jim / W6JHB

From inventor61 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 12:47:31 2015
From: inventor61 at gmail.com (inventor61 .)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 12:47:31 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] ideas for re-purposing our old K3 synthesizers
Message-ID: <CAHmQzTkyGq9WtymNZMkxtLoYLU8_GnjA4MF0U6cG3+aR7=PNOA@mail.gmail.com>

Based on the feedback I've received:

-- Lots of people are willing to give away their old KSYN3 modules, for
just the shipping costs

-- No one has an immediate application for the devices other than their
original purpose

-- The fear I had that controlling these things was rather complicated was
confirmed and amplified

-- It's not worth $100 to make the thing 'play' by itself


All quite illuminating.  Thanks for the bandwidth everyone.

73
Steve KZ1X/4

From c-hawley at illinois.edu  Thu Jun 25 13:51:35 2015
From: c-hawley at illinois.edu (ke9uw)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 10:51:35 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] KBPF3 upgrade kit and instructions [Corrected]
In-Reply-To: <FC1D78BB-47E4-4853-9E2F-FA6797304AF4@elecraft.com>
References: <FC1D78BB-47E4-4853-9E2F-FA6797304AF4@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <1435254695298-7604297.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hmmm...
Before I order (and I am anxious to order something), I need to sit down and
check several links on the Elecraft site to figure out what I have and what
I can order to upgrade. And check the forum as well.
While the Elecraft folks are just hanging out looking for something to do
:),  I long for an interactive link on the Elecraft site that I can just
enter my K3 serial number into and it displays all the upgrades that I could
benefit from and why.



-----
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From w7ox at socal.rr.com  Thu Jun 25 13:58:00 2015
From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 10:58:00 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KBPF3 upgrade kit and instructions [Corrected]
In-Reply-To: <FC1D78BB-47E4-4853-9E2F-FA6797304AF4@elecraft.com>
References: <FC1D78BB-47E4-4853-9E2F-FA6797304AF4@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <558C4128.9050204@socal.rr.com>

Ah, much better, Wayne: It now has all the pages 
referred to in the errata.  BTW, is the errata 
still pertinent or is it OBE?

73, Phil W7OX

On 6/25/15 9:13 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> The correct instruction sheet is now available on the order page for the KBPF3 mod kit. You may need to hit "refresh" on your browser to see the corrected link.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>
> * * *
>
> The long-promised KBPF3 modification kit is now available. It applies to the KBPF3, K3 RF board, and optionally to the KRX3 sub receiver. It allows the K3 or K3S to receive signals in the 100-500 kHz range with good sensitivity.
>
> For full details on the mod kit, see:
>
>    http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm#K3%20Parts
>
> Also see below for an excerpt from my original posting about signals in the 100-500 kHz range.
>
> * * *
>
> In honor of the FCC's proposed "2200 meter" allocation (137 kHz), we decided to see if we could improve the K3's receive sensitivity in the 100-500 kHz range. This extended coverage is made possible by the new synth (KSYN3A).
>
> After a lot of digging, we discovered the cause of the wide-band low-frequency noise. We also found a way to shift the passband of the KBPF3 lower.
>
> With a couple of simple modifications, the MDS (minimum discernible signal) can be improved by about 25 dB at the low end (100 kHz). Here are some test results (preamp off, 400-Hz bandwidth):
>
> 137 kHz -114 dBm FCC's proposed 2200 meter band
> 160 kHz -117 dBm low end of the "Low-Fer" band
> 250 kHz -126 dBm test frequency in the long-wave beacon band
> 472 kHz -133 dBm 630 meter experimental band
>
> This represents an improvement throughout the range, but especially at the low end. I believe -114 dBm MDS should suffice at 137 kHz, given the high band noise in this range.
>
> Another indication of how well the mods work: With no antenna connoted, the K3's S-meter now just barely flickers (S1) at 100 kHz. Without the mods, the no-antenna S-meter reading could be as high as S7 due to the noise source we've now identified (a voltage regulator). (By the way, this regulator noise had no impact on frequencies about about 500 kHz.)


From edauer at law.du.edu  Thu Jun 25 14:32:29 2015
From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:32:29 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KBPF3A and KBPF3B
In-Reply-To: <D1B18085.107F5%edauer@law.du.edu>
References: <mailman.15770.1435206874.22967.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
	<D1B18085.107F5%edauer@law.du.edu>
Message-ID: <50C941DD-F326-4ED9-9B02-0AE0ED468638@law.du.edu>

A further question about this . . . Having just read the installation 
instructions for both the KBPF3A and for the mod kit for the old KBPF3, I 
note one difference.  The mod kit requires SM work on both the existing 
KBPF board and soldering on the RF board itself.  The new KBPF3A 
instructions make no mention of any changes to the RF board.  Does that 
mean that by replacing the KBPF3 entirely there is no need to also modify 
the RF board?  If that is so it reduces the surgical risk considerably.  
Or maybe I missed something in the instructions?

Thanks, to whomever might be able to set me straight on this . . . 

Ted, KN1CBR




On 6/25/15, 10:11 AM, "Dauer, Edward" <edauer at law.du.edu> wrote:

>So, just to be sure I have this right:
>
>If I have the NEW KSYN3A synth in an old K3, and if I still have the OLD
>KXV3A, then replacing the KBPF3A with the NEW KBPF3B will give me all of
>the enhanced performance available on 100 - 500 Khz?
>
>I am thinking of replacing the KBPF3 rather than doing the mod on the old
>one because I have never done surface mount work and in my dotage can?t
>trust myself not to make a mess of it; and because shipping the K3 back to
>the factory for the mod may not be worthwhile compared to just replacing
>the bandpass filter . . . . due to the down-time.
>
>Izzat right, that replacing the bandpass filter now will do it all?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ted, KN1CBR
>
>
>>Message: 27
>>Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 23:23:05 -0500
>>From: Michael Eberle <mteberle at mchsi.com>
>>To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KBPF3 upgrade kit and instructions now
>>	available
>>Message-ID: <558B8229.1070207 at mchsi.com>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>>
>>
>>Will new orders for the KBPF3 have the modification already done or
>>would one need to purchase both the KBPF3 and the KBPF3MDKT if they
>>wanted to receive 100-500 kHz?
>>
>>Mike
>>KI0HA
>>
>>On 6/24/2015 7:42 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> The long-promised KBPF3 modification kit is now available. It applies
>>>to the KBPF3, K3 RF board, and optionally to the KRX3 sub receiver. It
>>>allows the K3 or K3S to receive signals in the 100-500 kHz range with
>>>good sensitivity. This is an interesting part of the spectrum, with
>>>
>>> For full detailms on the mod kit, see:
>>>
>>>     http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm#K3%20Parts
>>>
>>> Also see below for an excerpt from my original posting about signals in
>>>the 100-500 kHz range.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>>
>>>
>

From n6kr at elecraft.com  Thu Jun 25 14:57:22 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:57:22 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KBPF3A and KBPF3B
In-Reply-To: <50C941DD-F326-4ED9-9B02-0AE0ED468638@law.du.edu>
References: <mailman.15770.1435206874.22967.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
	<D1B18085.107F5%edauer@law.du.edu>
	<50C941DD-F326-4ED9-9B02-0AE0ED468638@law.du.edu>
Message-ID: <AA9AB52C-BA73-4FC5-B895-C49979A1D1B7@elecraft.com>

The K3 RF board will still need the new capacitor even if you're installing a KPBF3A (which has the LF mods already). 

This will be made clear in an upcoming errata for the KBPF3A manual. 

Wayne
N6KR

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> On Jun 25, 2015, at 11:32 AM, "Dauer, Edward" <edauer at law.du.edu> wrote:
> 
> A further question about this . . . Having just read the installation 
> instructions for both the KBPF3A and for the mod kit for the old KBPF3, I 
> note one difference.  The mod kit requires SM work on both the existing 
> KBPF board and soldering on the RF board itself.  The new KBPF3A 
> instructions make no mention of any changes to the RF board.  Does that 
> mean that by replacing the KBPF3 entirely there is no need to also modify 
> the RF board?  If that is so it reduces the surgical risk considerably.  
> Or maybe I missed something in the instructions?
> 
> Thanks, to whomever might be able to set me straight on this . . . 
> 
> Ted, KN1CBR
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 6/25/15, 10:11 AM, "Dauer, Edward" <edauer at law.du.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> So, just to be sure I have this right:
>> 
>> If I have the NEW KSYN3A synth in an old K3, and if I still have the OLD
>> KXV3A, then replacing the KBPF3A with the NEW KBPF3B will give me all of
>> the enhanced performance available on 100 - 500 Khz?
>> 
>> I am thinking of replacing the KBPF3 rather than doing the mod on the old
>> one because I have never done surface mount work and in my dotage can?t
>> trust myself not to make a mess of it; and because shipping the K3 back to
>> the factory for the mod may not be worthwhile compared to just replacing
>> the bandpass filter . . . . due to the down-time.
>> 
>> Izzat right, that replacing the bandpass filter now will do it all?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Ted, KN1CBR
>> 
>> 
>>> Message: 27
>>> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 23:23:05 -0500
>>> From: Michael Eberle <mteberle at mchsi.com>
>>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KBPF3 upgrade kit and instructions now
>>>    available
>>> Message-ID: <558B8229.1070207 at mchsi.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Will new orders for the KBPF3 have the modification already done or
>>> would one need to purchase both the KBPF3 and the KBPF3MDKT if they
>>> wanted to receive 100-500 kHz?
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> KI0HA
>>> 
>>>> On 6/24/2015 7:42 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> The long-promised KBPF3 modification kit is now available. It applies
>>>> to the KBPF3, K3 RF board, and optionally to the KRX3 sub receiver. It
>>>> allows the K3 or K3S to receive signals in the 100-500 kHz range with
>>>> good sensitivity. This is an interesting part of the spectrum, with
>>>> 
>>>> For full detailms on the mod kit, see:
>>>> 
>>>>    http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm#K3%20Parts
>>>> 
>>>> Also see below for an excerpt from my original posting about signals in
>>>> the 100-500 kHz range.
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> Wayne
>>>> N6KR
>> 

From kk7p4dsp at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 14:57:43 2015
From: kk7p4dsp at gmail.com (Lyle Johnson)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:57:43 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KBPF3A and KBPF3B
In-Reply-To: <50C941DD-F326-4ED9-9B02-0AE0ED468638@law.du.edu>
References: <mailman.15770.1435206874.22967.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>	<D1B18085.107F5%edauer@law.du.edu>
	<50C941DD-F326-4ED9-9B02-0AE0ED468638@law.du.edu>
Message-ID: <558C4F27.2080504@gmail.com>

Ted,

The discrepancies in instructions are due to the KPBF3A instructions 
being written with the K3S in mind, while the KBPF3 mod instructions 
were written with K3 in mind.

If a KBPF3A, or a modified KBPF3, is installed into a K3, the RF board 
(or KRX3 main board) bypasses must be done for good low frequency 
performance.  If the KPBF3A, or a modified KBPF3, is installed into a 
K3S the RF board modifications are not necessary because the K3S RF 
board has the changes already incorporated.

The instructions will be corrected by errata and eventual updating.

Meanwhile, the physics remain the same: the K3 RF board needs the mods 
for good LF reception with the KPBF3A or modified KBPF3.

73,

Lyle KK7P

> A further question about this . . . Having just read the installation
> instructions for both the KBPF3A and for the mod kit for the old KBPF3, I
> note one difference.  The mod kit requires SM work on both the existing
> KBPF board and soldering on the RF board itself.  The new KBPF3A
> instructions make no mention of any changes to the RF board.  Does that
> mean that by replacing the KBPF3 entirely there is no need to also modify
> the RF board?


From ejkkjh at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 15:18:12 2015
From: ejkkjh at gmail.com (ejkkjh at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:18:12 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KBPF3A and KBPF3B
In-Reply-To: <AA9AB52C-BA73-4FC5-B895-C49979A1D1B7@elecraft.com>
References: <mailman.15770.1435206874.22967.elecraft@mailman.qth.net><D1B18085.107F5%edauer@law.du.edu><50C941DD-F326-4ED9-9B02-0AE0ED468638@law.du.edu>
	<AA9AB52C-BA73-4FC5-B895-C49979A1D1B7@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <541B0A7DEB164B95BA75735F144A7F86@ejhPC>

I think I understand all this now.
One other question, please.  Will it be possible to just send in the KBPF3 
from my K3 to be modified by Elecraft?  not the whole K3?
I think I can handle installing the one cap on the RF board but never done 
surface mounts.
Thank you  73
Emory  WM3M


-----Original Message----- 
From: Wayne Burdick
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:57 PM
To: Dauer, Edward
Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KBPF3A and KBPF3B

The K3 RF board will still need the new capacitor even if you're installing 
a KPBF3A (which has the LF mods already).

This will be made clear in an upcoming errata for the KBPF3A manual.

Wayne
N6KR

----


From doug49707 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 15:25:59 2015
From: doug49707 at gmail.com (Doug)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:25:59 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KBPF3 upgrade kit and instructions [Corrected]
In-Reply-To: <1435254695298-7604297.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <FC1D78BB-47E4-4853-9E2F-FA6797304AF4@elecraft.com>
	<1435254695298-7604297.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <A78F4D59-43D5-480C-9DF5-F34C2F667627@gmail.com>

Amen. I agree. I also would like to be able to put serial number in and see what I need or can upgrade 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 25, 2015, at 1:51 PM, ke9uw <c-hawley at illinois.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hmmm...
> Before I order (and I am anxious to order something), I need to sit down and
> check several links on the Elecraft site to figure out what I have and what
> I can order to upgrade. And check the forum as well.
> While the Elecraft folks are just hanging out looking for something to do
> :),  I long for an interactive link on the Elecraft site that I can just
> enter my K3 serial number into and it displays all the upgrades that I could
> benefit from and why.
> 
> 
> 
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From k2av.guy at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 15:36:52 2015
From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:36:52 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KBPF3 upgrade kit and instructions [Corrected]
In-Reply-To: <A78F4D59-43D5-480C-9DF5-F34C2F667627@gmail.com>
References: <FC1D78BB-47E4-4853-9E2F-FA6797304AF4@elecraft.com>
	<1435254695298-7604297.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<A78F4D59-43D5-480C-9DF5-F34C2F667627@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANckpc0nwFWLuPXPseEkJSa+3c01-RtxjwvjUJGUMY+Xodbkag@mail.gmail.com>

Serial number by itself doesn't by itself reliably indicate what is needed
as prior mods and options already installed bear on what is needed or not.

No way out of brainwork prior to order.

73, Guy K2AV

On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Doug <doug49707 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Amen. I agree. I also would like to be able to put serial number in and
> see what I need or can upgrade
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 25, 2015, at 1:51 PM, ke9uw <c-hawley at illinois.edu <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hmmm...
> > Before I order (and I am anxious to order something), I need to sit down
> and
> > check several links on the Elecraft site to figure out what I have and
> what
> > I can order to upgrade. And check the forum as well.
> > While the Elecraft folks are just hanging out looking for something to do
> > :),  I long for an interactive link on the Elecraft site that I can just
> > enter my K3 serial number into and it displays all the upgrades that I
> could
> > benefit from and why.
> >
> >
> >
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From w6jhb at me.com  Thu Jun 25 16:17:58 2015
From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:17:58 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem
In-Reply-To: <558C5F04.4010603@frawg.org>
References: <B63AFDB9-A045-4358-932F-B7982B50B0E1@me.com>
	<558C5F04.4010603@frawg.org>
Message-ID: <69C0CEDC-9790-49FD-B08E-C1109B604760@me.com>

I verified that both the KX3 and PX3 are set to 38,400. Nothing has changed, from an operator perspective: the PX3 has been sitting on my desk, untouched since the last time I used it a day or so ago. Very frustrating and disappointing, as I was hoping to use these two units to operate Field Day this weekend. I can use the KX3 w/o the PX3, but it's not what I had planned. Maybe someone else will have an idea. If not, I'l call Elecraft on Friday morning.

Jim


> On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 1:05 PM, Jack Spitznagel <sancho at frawg.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> Sounds vaguely familiar. Double check all devices to make sure the port speed is set to 38,400 on all devices.
> 
> I experienced this problem once. When I had the KX3/PX3/KXPA100 daisy chained together and one of the speeds was not at 38,400 things went brain dead just that way.
> 
> Jack - KD4IZ
> 
> On 6/25/2015 12:37, James Bennett wrote:
>> Have a KX3 and PX3 that have been working fine - until this morning. Today I am unable to have the KX3 connect to my computer if the PX3 is powered on. If I turn off the PX3, the KX3 serial - USB connections works fine. As soon as the PX3 is powered on, the connection goes away. I'm using Elecraft-supplied cables, not off-brands. The PX3 Utility cannot connect to the PX3 with the KX3 on or with it off. Other than the connection to my iMac being hosed, the PX3 and KX3 appear to be working just fine.
>> 
>> Any suggestions how to determine what's going on?
>> 
>> Tnx, Jim / W6JHB
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From c-hawley at illinois.edu  Thu Jun 25 16:30:06 2015
From: c-hawley at illinois.edu (ke9uw)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:30:06 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] KBPF3 upgrade kit and instructions [Corrected]
In-Reply-To: <CANckpc0nwFWLuPXPseEkJSa+3c01-RtxjwvjUJGUMY+Xodbkag@mail.gmail.com>
References: <FC1D78BB-47E4-4853-9E2F-FA6797304AF4@elecraft.com>
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Yes, but in my case, I remember any mods already done since my K3 was built.



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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Thu Jun 25 16:51:48 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:51:48 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KBPF3A and KBPF3B
In-Reply-To: <541B0A7DEB164B95BA75735F144A7F86@ejhPC>
References: <mailman.15770.1435206874.22967.elecraft@mailman.qth.net><D1B18085.107F5%edauer@law.du.edu><50C941DD-F326-4ED9-9B02-0AE0ED468638@law.du.edu>
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On Jun 25, 2015, at 12:18 PM, ejkkjh at gmail.com wrote:

> I think I understand all this now.
> One other question, please.  Will it be possible to just send in the KBPF3 from my K3 to be modified by Elecraft?  not the whole K3?

Yes.

73,
Wayne
N6KR




From toms at xmission.com  Thu Jun 25 17:16:31 2015
From: toms at xmission.com (Tom Schaefer)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:16:31 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem
In-Reply-To: <69C0CEDC-9790-49FD-B08E-C1109B604760@me.com>
References: <B63AFDB9-A045-4358-932F-B7982B50B0E1@me.com>
	<558C5F04.4010603@frawg.org>
	<69C0CEDC-9790-49FD-B08E-C1109B604760@me.com>
Message-ID: <C99665FC-DDDA-43EE-9ED3-545E0702555F@xmission.com>

Can you try a different computer?

Principal Solutions Architect
Better Software Solutions, Inc. 
727-437-2771

> On Jun 25, 2015, at 4:17 PM, James Bennett <w6jhb at me.com> wrote:
> 
> I verified that both the KX3 and PX3 are set to 38,400. Nothing has changed, from an operator perspective: the PX3 has been sitting on my desk, untouched since the last time I used it a day or so ago. Very frustrating and disappointing, as I was hoping to use these two units to operate Field Day this weekend. I can use the KX3 w/o the PX3, but it's not what I had planned. Maybe someone else will have an idea. If not, I'l call Elecraft on Friday morning.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
>> On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 1:05 PM, Jack Spitznagel <sancho at frawg.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jim,
>> 
>> Sounds vaguely familiar. Double check all devices to make sure the port speed is set to 38,400 on all devices.
>> 
>> I experienced this problem once. When I had the KX3/PX3/KXPA100 daisy chained together and one of the speeds was not at 38,400 things went brain dead just that way.
>> 
>> Jack - KD4IZ
>> 
>>> On 6/25/2015 12:37, James Bennett wrote:
>>> Have a KX3 and PX3 that have been working fine - until this morning. Today I am unable to have the KX3 connect to my computer if the PX3 is powered on. If I turn off the PX3, the KX3 serial - USB connections works fine. As soon as the PX3 is powered on, the connection goes away. I'm using Elecraft-supplied cables, not off-brands. The PX3 Utility cannot connect to the PX3 with the KX3 on or with it off. Other than the connection to my iMac being hosed, the PX3 and KX3 appear to be working just fine.
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions how to determine what's going on?
>>> 
>>> Tnx, Jim / W6JHB
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Thu Jun 25 17:20:28 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:20:28 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KBPF3 upgrade kit and instructions [Corrected]
In-Reply-To: <558C4128.9050204@socal.rr.com>
References: <FC1D78BB-47E4-4853-9E2F-FA6797304AF4@elecraft.com>
	<558C4128.9050204@socal.rr.com>
Message-ID: <3BDD25A4-42EE-4914-803F-1AF7E9A53E1D@elecraft.com>

Hi Phil,

The errata were assimilated (er...incorporated :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Jun 25, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Phil Wheeler <w7ox at socal.rr.com> wrote:

> Ah, much better, Wayne: It now has all the pages referred to in the errata.  BTW, is the errata still pertinent or is it OBE?
> 
> 73, Phil W7OX
> 
> On 6/25/15 9:13 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> The correct instruction sheet is now available on the order page for the KBPF3 mod kit. You may need to hit "refresh" on your browser to see the corrected link.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR



From n6kr at elecraft.com  Thu Jun 25 17:32:34 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:32:34 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] ideas for re-purposing our old K3 synthesizers
In-Reply-To: <CAHmQzTkyGq9WtymNZMkxtLoYLU8_GnjA4MF0U6cG3+aR7=PNOA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHmQzTkyGq9WtymNZMkxtLoYLU8_GnjA4MF0U6cG3+aR7=PNOA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0766424E-009F-42EC-A112-F0D15630C6FA@elecraft.com>

Someday, let's say in the year 2185, a restorer of warp drives and old HF radios will stumble upon your cache of pristine KSYN3 modules and make your great-great-(...)-great grand-daughter an offer she can't refuse. So go ahead. Collect 'em :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:47 AM, inventor61 . <inventor61 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Based on the feedback I've received:
> 
> -- Lots of people are willing to give away their old KSYN3 modules, for
> just the shipping costs
> 
> -- No one has an immediate application for the devices other than their
> original purpose
> 
> -- The fear I had that controlling these things was rather complicated was
> confirmed and amplified
> 
> -- It's not worth $100 to make the thing 'play' by itself
> 
> 
> All quite illuminating.  Thanks for the bandwidth everyone.
> 
> 73
> Steve KZ1X/4
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From w6jhb at me.com  Thu Jun 25 17:33:45 2015
From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:33:45 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem
In-Reply-To: <E4C9F510-4935-41C8-AFA5-972CCE72D4C8@comcast.net>
References: <B63AFDB9-A045-4358-932F-B7982B50B0E1@me.com>
	<558C5F04.4010603@frawg.org>
	<69C0CEDC-9790-49FD-B08E-C1109B604760@me.com>
	<E4C9F510-4935-41C8-AFA5-972CCE72D4C8@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <F41E2445-FA71-4DCD-8D89-955D49C8851C@me.com>

See below -

> On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 1:57 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L <nf4l at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Jim -
> 
> I have a K3 and P3, and am assuming that the cabling is the same for the Xs, cable from computer to PX3, then from PX3 to KX3. Are you using a Mac? If you use a VM, does that grab the com port?
Yes, I'm using an iMac, and yes, they daisy chain just like the K3/P3. I have VMware shut down. I went so far as to unplug the Serial-USB cable going into the iMac and plugged back in. The iMac asked where to connect it to. I told it the Mac. Still no joy. The KX3 by itself connects fine, the PX3 is out to lunch.
> 
> Some shots in the dark.
> 
> Un daisy-chain the KX3 and PX3 and see if the KX3 utility can talk to the KX3 alone, then check if the PX3 utility can talk to the PX3. If the KX# works and the PX3 doesn't then the problem is with the PX3 or the cable from the PX3 to KX3.
I unchained 'em and got the same result - iMac cannot see the PX3.

> If you have a different serial cable, try that.
Tried using the cable that my K3/P3 use - no joy there, either.
> 
> How about a power-on reset of the PX3?
Brought up the PX3 menu to power-on/reset. Again, no change.
> 
> 73, Mike NF4L
I called Elecraft - all lines busy. So I sent an email to support. Still waiting for a reply......
> 



From w6jhb at me.com  Thu Jun 25 17:34:37 2015
From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:34:37 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem
In-Reply-To: <C99665FC-DDDA-43EE-9ED3-545E0702555F@xmission.com>
References: <B63AFDB9-A045-4358-932F-B7982B50B0E1@me.com>
	<558C5F04.4010603@frawg.org>
	<69C0CEDC-9790-49FD-B08E-C1109B604760@me.com>
	<C99665FC-DDDA-43EE-9ED3-545E0702555F@xmission.com>
Message-ID: <B9ADC2B7-EBA0-4987-B1CC-49AA4D5893B4@me.com>

Nope - this is my only machine. Got several iPads, but that won't help!! :-) :-)


> On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 2:16 PM, Tom Schaefer <toms at xmission.com> wrote:
> 
> Can you try a different computer?
> 
> Principal Solutions Architect
> Better Software Solutions, Inc. 
> 727-437-2771


From davidahrendts at me.com  Thu Jun 25 17:39:56 2015
From: davidahrendts at me.com (David Ahrendts)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:39:56 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem
In-Reply-To: <C99665FC-DDDA-43EE-9ED3-545E0702555F@xmission.com>
References: <B63AFDB9-A045-4358-932F-B7982B50B0E1@me.com>
	<558C5F04.4010603@frawg.org>
	<69C0CEDC-9790-49FD-B08E-C1109B604760@me.com>
	<C99665FC-DDDA-43EE-9ED3-545E0702555F@xmission.com>
Message-ID: <72CAC08D-3099-4399-850F-01785AF64D16@me.com>

My KX3-PX3 (and KPA100) are connected to an iMac also. On the theory that it?s the KUSB cable, or the chip in the cable, try swapping the KUSB cable with another. Just a thought.
Sure sounds like a software switch somewhere. 

> On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:16 PM, Tom Schaefer <toms at xmission.com> wrote:
> 
> Can you try a different computer?
> 
> Principal Solutions Architect
> Better Software Solutions, Inc. 
> 727-437-2771
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2015, at 4:17 PM, James Bennett <w6jhb at me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I verified that both the KX3 and PX3 are set to 38,400. Nothing has changed, from an operator perspective: the PX3 has been sitting on my desk, untouched since the last time I used it a day or so ago. Very frustrating and disappointing, as I was hoping to use these two units to operate Field Day this weekend. I can use the KX3 w/o the PX3, but it's not what I had planned. Maybe someone else will have an idea. If not, I'l call Elecraft on Friday morning.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> 
>>> On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 1:05 PM, Jack Spitznagel <sancho at frawg.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jim,
>>> 
>>> Sounds vaguely familiar. Double check all devices to make sure the port speed is set to 38,400 on all devices.
>>> 
>>> I experienced this problem once. When I had the KX3/PX3/KXPA100 daisy chained together and one of the speeds was not at 38,400 things went brain dead just that way.
>>> 
>>> Jack - KD4IZ
>>> 
>>>> On 6/25/2015 12:37, James Bennett wrote:
>>>> Have a KX3 and PX3 that have been working fine - until this morning. Today I am unable to have the KX3 connect to my computer if the PX3 is powered on. If I turn off the PX3, the KX3 serial - USB connections works fine. As soon as the PX3 is powered on, the connection goes away. I'm using Elecraft-supplied cables, not off-brands. The PX3 Utility cannot connect to the PX3 with the KX3 on or with it off. Other than the connection to my iMac being hosed, the PX3 and KX3 appear to be working just fine.
>>>> 
>>>> Any suggestions how to determine what's going on?
>>>> 
>>>> Tnx, Jim / W6JHB
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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From w6jhb at me.com  Thu Jun 25 17:45:03 2015
From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:45:03 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem
In-Reply-To: <72CAC08D-3099-4399-850F-01785AF64D16@me.com>
References: <B63AFDB9-A045-4358-932F-B7982B50B0E1@me.com>
	<558C5F04.4010603@frawg.org>
	<69C0CEDC-9790-49FD-B08E-C1109B604760@me.com>
	<C99665FC-DDDA-43EE-9ED3-545E0702555F@xmission.com>
	<72CAC08D-3099-4399-850F-01785AF64D16@me.com>
Message-ID: <5AFF6554-A3BB-431A-9048-6D1AA68B206E@me.com>

Tried it. In fact, not only did I try the one that connects to my K3/P3, I tried a spare that I use occasionally for my KAT500. Neither of the three allow the PX3 & KX3 pair to work if the PX3 has power. If I power off the PX3, then the KX3 signal flows to the iMac like it did yesterday. Arrghhhhh....... :-(

> On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 2:39 PM, David Ahrendts <davidahrendts at me.com> wrote:
> 
> My KX3-PX3 (and KPA100) are connected to an iMac also. On the theory that it?s the KUSB cable, or the chip in the cable, try swapping the KUSB cable with another. Just a thought.
> Sure sounds like a software switch somewhere. 
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:16 PM, Tom Schaefer <toms at xmission.com <mailto:toms at xmission.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Can you try a different computer?
>> 
>> Principal Solutions Architect
>> Better Software Solutions, Inc. 
>> 727-437-2771
>> 
>>> On Jun 25, 2015, at 4:17 PM, James Bennett <w6jhb at me.com <mailto:w6jhb at me.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I verified that both the KX3 and PX3 are set to 38,400. Nothing has changed, from an operator perspective: the PX3 has been sitting on my desk, untouched since the last time I used it a day or so ago. Very frustrating and disappointing, as I was hoping to use these two units to operate Field Day this weekend. I can use the KX3 w/o the PX3, but it's not what I had planned. Maybe someone else will have an idea. If not, I'l call Elecraft on Friday morning.
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 1:05 PM, Jack Spitznagel <sancho at frawg.org <mailto:sancho at frawg.org>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Jim,
>>>> 
>>>> Sounds vaguely familiar. Double check all devices to make sure the port speed is set to 38,400 on all devices.
>>>> 
>>>> I experienced this problem once. When I had the KX3/PX3/KXPA100 daisy chained together and one of the speeds was not at 38,400 things went brain dead just that way.
>>>> 
>>>> Jack - KD4IZ
>>>> 
>>>>> On 6/25/2015 12:37, James Bennett wrote:
>>>>> Have a KX3 and PX3 that have been working fine - until this morning. Today I am unable to have the KX3 connect to my computer if the PX3 is powered on. If I turn off the PX3, the KX3 serial - USB connections works fine. As soon as the PX3 is powered on, the connection goes away. I'm using Elecraft-supplied cables, not off-brands. The PX3 Utility cannot connect to the PX3 with the KX3 on or with it off. Other than the connection to my iMac being hosed, the PX3 and KX3 appear to be working just fine.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any suggestions how to determine what's going on?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tnx, Jim / W6JHB
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From joel.b.black at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 17:54:18 2015
From: joel.b.black at gmail.com (Joel Black)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:54:18 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem
In-Reply-To: <5AFF6554-A3BB-431A-9048-6D1AA68B206E@me.com>
References: <B63AFDB9-A045-4358-932F-B7982B50B0E1@me.com>
	<558C5F04.4010603@frawg.org>
	<69C0CEDC-9790-49FD-B08E-C1109B604760@me.com>
	<C99665FC-DDDA-43EE-9ED3-545E0702555F@xmission.com>
	<72CAC08D-3099-4399-850F-01785AF64D16@me.com>
	<5AFF6554-A3BB-431A-9048-6D1AA68B206E@me.com>
Message-ID: <E40BF228-6AB0-475D-9565-EB33FAA906A3@gmail.com>

Try disconnecting and reconnecting all connections.

I work in telecom and for years I had been told that a cable cannot go bad just lying in a cable tray. Well, I discovered that isn?t true. It can go bad all on its own just lying in a cable tray screwed down at both ends. No one knows what happened and there was no physical damage to the cable.

Also, jacks will get dirty. There is a fix for a DSX cross-connect (it?s for T1 testing and patching) where you insert and remove a bantam cable several times. It?s surprising how often this ?fix? works.

73,
Joel - W4JBB

> On Jun 25, 2015, at 4:45 PM, James Bennett <w6jhb at me.com> wrote:
> 
> Tried it. In fact, not only did I try the one that connects to my K3/P3, I tried a spare that I use occasionally for my KAT500. Neither of the three allow the PX3 & KX3 pair to work if the PX3 has power. If I power off the PX3, then the KX3 signal flows to the iMac like it did yesterday. Arrghhhhh....... :-(
> 
>> On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 2:39 PM, David Ahrendts <davidahrendts at me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> My KX3-PX3 (and KPA100) are connected to an iMac also. On the theory that it?s the KUSB cable, or the chip in the cable, try swapping the KUSB cable with another. Just a thought.
>> Sure sounds like a software switch somewhere. 
>> 
>>> On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:16 PM, Tom Schaefer <toms at xmission.com <mailto:toms at xmission.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can you try a different computer?
>>> 
>>> Principal Solutions Architect
>>> Better Software Solutions, Inc. 
>>> 727-437-2771
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 25, 2015, at 4:17 PM, James Bennett <w6jhb at me.com <mailto:w6jhb at me.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I verified that both the KX3 and PX3 are set to 38,400. Nothing has changed, from an operator perspective: the PX3 has been sitting on my desk, untouched since the last time I used it a day or so ago. Very frustrating and disappointing, as I was hoping to use these two units to operate Field Day this weekend. I can use the KX3 w/o the PX3, but it's not what I had planned. Maybe someone else will have an idea. If not, I'l call Elecraft on Friday morning.
>>>> 
>>>> Jim
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 1:05 PM, Jack Spitznagel <sancho at frawg.org <mailto:sancho at frawg.org>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Jim,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sounds vaguely familiar. Double check all devices to make sure the port speed is set to 38,400 on all devices.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I experienced this problem once. When I had the KX3/PX3/KXPA100 daisy chained together and one of the speeds was not at 38,400 things went brain dead just that way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jack - KD4IZ
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6/25/2015 12:37, James Bennett wrote:
>>>>>> Have a KX3 and PX3 that have been working fine - until this morning. Today I am unable to have the KX3 connect to my computer if the PX3 is powered on. If I turn off the PX3, the KX3 serial - USB connections works fine. As soon as the PX3 is powered on, the connection goes away. I'm using Elecraft-supplied cables, not off-brands. The PX3 Utility cannot connect to the PX3 with the KX3 on or with it off. Other than the connection to my iMac being hosed, the PX3 and KX3 appear to be working just fine.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any suggestions how to determine what's going on?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tnx, Jim / W6JHB
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From gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Jun 25 18:16:29 2015
From: gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk (David Anderson)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:16:29 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem
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James,

If he PX3 utility cannot connect to the PX3 then you cannot expect the iMac to connect to the KX3 through the PX3 with the PX3 powered on, because that requires a working connection to the PX3 so that the PX3 can then talk on a different UART to the KX3. The reason it works to the KX3 with the power switched off in the PX3 is that then it goes straight through bypassing the UARTS in the PX3.

Here is a rough block diagram

With PX3 power ON

PC ---- > PX3 UART1 ---- PX3 UART2 --------> KX3


With PX3 power OFF

PC -----> PX3 --------------------------------> KX3


So, to troubleshoot you can disconnect everything from the PX3 apart from the power cable and the connection to your IMac and see if you can get the PX3 connected using the PX3 utility. If you cannot then I am afraid you have a problem. You won't get anything through to the KX3 with the PX3 switched ON while that problem exists.

Very frustrating I can understand.

73

David Anderson GM4JJJ 

> On 25 Jun 2015, at 22:45, James Bennett <w6jhb at me.com> wrote:
> 
> Tried it. In fact, not only did I try the one that connects to my K3/P3, I tried a spare that I use occasionally for my KAT500. Neither of the three allow the PX3 & KX3 pair to work if the PX3 has power. If I power off the PX3, then the KX3 signal flows to the iMac like it did yesterday. Arrghhhhh....... :-(
> 
>> On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 2:39 PM, David Ahrendts <davidahrendts at me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> My KX3-PX3 (and KPA100) are connected to an iMac also. On the theory that it?s the KUSB cable, or the chip in the cable, try swapping the KUSB cable with another. Just a thought.
>> Sure sounds like a software switch somewhere. 
>> 
>>> On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:16 PM, Tom Schaefer <toms at xmission.com <mailto:toms at xmission.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can you try a different computer?
>>> 
>>> Principal Solutions Architect
>>> Better Software Solutions, Inc. 
>>> 727-437-2771
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 25, 2015, at 4:17 PM, James Bennett <w6jhb at me.com <mailto:w6jhb at me.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I verified that both the KX3 and PX3 are set to 38,400. Nothing has changed, from an operator perspective: the PX3 has been sitting on my desk, untouched since the last time I used it a day or so ago. Very frustrating and disappointing, as I was hoping to use these two units to operate Field Day this weekend. I can use the KX3 w/o the PX3, but it's not what I had planned. Maybe someone else will have an idea. If not, I'l call Elecraft on Friday morning.
>>>> 
>>>> Jim
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 1:05 PM, Jack Spitznagel <sancho at frawg.org <mailto:sancho at frawg.org>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Jim,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sounds vaguely familiar. Double check all devices to make sure the port speed is set to 38,400 on all devices.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I experienced this problem once. When I had the KX3/PX3/KXPA100 daisy chained together and one of the speeds was not at 38,400 things went brain dead just that way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jack - KD4IZ
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6/25/2015 12:37, James Bennett wrote:
>>>>>> Have a KX3 and PX3 that have been working fine - until this morning. Today I am unable to have the KX3 connect to my computer if the PX3 is powered on. If I turn off the PX3, the KX3 serial - USB connections works fine. As soon as the PX3 is powered on, the connection goes away. I'm using Elecraft-supplied cables, not off-brands. The PX3 Utility cannot connect to the PX3 with the KX3 on or with it off. Other than the connection to my iMac being hosed, the PX3 and KX3 appear to be working just fine.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any suggestions how to determine what's going on?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tnx, Jim / W6JHB
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From pauls at elecraft.com  Thu Jun 25 18:24:37 2015
From: pauls at elecraft.com (Paul Saffren N6HZ)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:24:37 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem
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Hi James, 


Please excuse me if I am stating the obvious or am suggesting something you
have already tried. 

1) Make sure that the PC is plugged into the "ACC1/PC" jack on the PX3 and
that the KX3 is plugged into the "XCVR" jack.   BE sure that the plugs are
pushed in all the way.  Those 3.5mm jacks can appear to be pushed in when
they are not. 

2) On your PC ensure that there is only one program up and running that is
using that serial port. 
3) Verify that the KX3 is set to 38,400 and the PX3 is also at 38,400. (I
think you mentioned you did this)

If that doesn't work, connect the PX3 by itself to the computer via the
ACC1/PC jack and make sure you can talk to it with your computer while using
the PX3 Utility.  

-Paul




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From n1al at sonic.net  Thu Jun 25 18:42:41 2015
From: n1al at sonic.net (Alan)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:42:41 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem
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Jim,

I would try the following troubleshooting procedure:

Connect the "XCVR" ACC1 RS-232 jack on the PX3 to the ACC1 jack on the 
KX3.  Turn them both on.  If the KX3 and PX3 work normally together (PX3 
reads KX3 frequency on the screen, etc.) then the "XCVR" RS-232 port on 
the PX3 must be OK.

Now connect the PC to the "PC" ACC1 RS-232 port on the PX3 and turn off 
the PX3.  If KX3 Utility can connect to the KX3, then the cables and 
connectors must be good.

Now "without touching anything" turn on the PX3.  If:

- KX3 Utility can't connect to the KX3 and

- PX3 Utility can't connect to the PX3,

then it sounds like the "PC" RS-232 port on the PX3 must have died 
somehow.

Alan N1AL


On 06/25/2015 09:37 AM, James Bennett wrote:
> Have a KX3 and PX3 that have been working fine - until this morning.
> Today I am unable to have the KX3 connect to my computer if the PX3
> is powered on. If I turn off the PX3, the KX3 serial - USB
> connections works fine. As soon as the PX3 is powered on, the
> connection goes away. I'm using Elecraft-supplied cables, not
> off-brands. The PX3 Utility cannot connect to the PX3 with the KX3 on
> or with it off. Other than the connection to my iMac being hosed, the
> PX3 and KX3 appear to be working just fine.
>
> Any suggestions how to determine what's going on?
>
> Tnx, Jim / W6JHB
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From n1al at sonic.net  Thu Jun 25 18:46:26 2015
From: n1al at sonic.net (Alan)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:46:26 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem
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 > - KX3 Utility can't connect to the KX3 and
 >
 > - PX3 Utility can't connect to the PX3,

I forgot to mention you have to kill KX3 Utility before starting PX3 
Utility.  You can't have more than one program using the same serial 
port at the same time.

Alan N1AL


On 06/25/2015 03:42 PM, Alan wrote:
> Jim,
>
> I would try the following troubleshooting procedure:
>
> Connect the "XCVR" ACC1 RS-232 jack on the PX3 to the ACC1 jack on the
> KX3.  Turn them both on.  If the KX3 and PX3 work normally together (PX3
> reads KX3 frequency on the screen, etc.) then the "XCVR" RS-232 port on
> the PX3 must be OK.
>
> Now connect the PC to the "PC" ACC1 RS-232 port on the PX3 and turn off
> the PX3.  If KX3 Utility can connect to the KX3, then the cables and
> connectors must be good.
>
> Now "without touching anything" turn on the PX3.  If:
>
> - KX3 Utility can't connect to the KX3 and
>
> - PX3 Utility can't connect to the PX3,
>
> then it sounds like the "PC" RS-232 port on the PX3 must have died somehow.
>
> Alan N1AL
>
>
> On 06/25/2015 09:37 AM, James Bennett wrote:
>> Have a KX3 and PX3 that have been working fine - until this morning.
>> Today I am unable to have the KX3 connect to my computer if the PX3
>> is powered on. If I turn off the PX3, the KX3 serial - USB
>> connections works fine. As soon as the PX3 is powered on, the
>> connection goes away. I'm using Elecraft-supplied cables, not
>> off-brands. The PX3 Utility cannot connect to the PX3 with the KX3 on
>> or with it off. Other than the connection to my iMac being hosed, the
>> PX3 and KX3 appear to be working just fine.
>>
>> Any suggestions how to determine what's going on?
>>
>> Tnx, Jim / W6JHB
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From w6jhb at me.com  Thu Jun 25 18:51:05 2015
From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:51:05 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem
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Guys, I have checked, double, and triple-checked connections. Reseated all of them. I tried as David GM4JJJ suggested - unhooked EVERYTHING from the PX3 except power and ACC1 to the computer. The PX3 utility does not see the PX3. So, I'm of the opinion that something inside the PX3 has gone kaflooey. Will see what Elecraft support has to say when they get around to responding. At least the PX3 is still in warranty. And it doesn't weigh 400 pounds to mail it off.

The good news is that I had a brain f at rt while doing laundry - I disconnected the ACC1 cable between the KX3 and the PX3, then moved the Serial->USB from the computer directly into the KX3. This at least allows me to use the MLDX logging program on my iMac, and have panadapter display on the PX3. The only thing I loose is that the PX3 does not show the correct frequency. That's not an issue, as the KX3 shows it and the MLDX software sees and shows it too. So, due to my cranial flatulence, I'll still be able to use both units this weekend in Field Day!! My wife will probably tell me the bottom line is that I ought to do the laundry more often! Uh-oh....


> On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 3:16 PM, David Anderson <gm4jjj at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> James,
> 
> If he PX3 utility cannot connect to the PX3 then you cannot expect the iMac to connect to the KX3 through the PX3 with the PX3 powered on, because that requires a working connection to the PX3 so that the PX3 can then talk on a different UART to the KX3. The reason it works to the KX3 with the power switched off in the PX3 is that then it goes straight through bypassing the UARTS in the PX3.
> 
> Here is a rough block diagram
> 
> With PX3 power ON
> 
> PC ---- > PX3 UART1 ---- PX3 UART2 --------> KX3
> 
> 
> With PX3 power OFF
> 
> PC -----> PX3 --------------------------------> KX3
> 
> 
> So, to troubleshoot you can disconnect everything from the PX3 apart from the power cable and the connection to your IMac and see if you can get the PX3 connected using the PX3 utility. If you cannot then I am afraid you have a problem. You won't get anything through to the KX3 with the PX3 switched ON while that problem exists.
> 
> Very frustrating I can understand.
> 
> 73
> 
> David Anderson GM4JJJ 
> 
>> On 25 Jun 2015, at 22:45, James Bennett <w6jhb at me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Tried it. In fact, not only did I try the one that connects to my K3/P3, I tried a spare that I use occasionally for my KAT500. Neither of the three allow the PX3 & KX3 pair to work if the PX3 has power. If I power off the PX3, then the KX3 signal flows to the iMac like it did yesterday. Arrghhhhh....... :-(
>> 
>>> On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 2:39 PM, David Ahrendts <davidahrendts at me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My KX3-PX3 (and KPA100) are connected to an iMac also. On the theory that it?s the KUSB cable, or the chip in the cable, try swapping the KUSB cable with another. Just a thought.
>>> Sure sounds like a software switch somewhere. 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:16 PM, Tom Schaefer <toms at xmission.com <mailto:toms at xmission.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Can you try a different computer?
>>>> 
>>>> Principal Solutions Architect
>>>> Better Software Solutions, Inc. 
>>>> 727-437-2771
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 25, 2015, at 4:17 PM, James Bennett <w6jhb at me.com <mailto:w6jhb at me.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I verified that both the KX3 and PX3 are set to 38,400. Nothing has changed, from an operator perspective: the PX3 has been sitting on my desk, untouched since the last time I used it a day or so ago. Very frustrating and disappointing, as I was hoping to use these two units to operate Field Day this weekend. I can use the KX3 w/o the PX3, but it's not what I had planned. Maybe someone else will have an idea. If not, I'l call Elecraft on Friday morning.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 1:05 PM, Jack Spitznagel <sancho at frawg.org <mailto:sancho at frawg.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Jim,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sounds vaguely familiar. Double check all devices to make sure the port speed is set to 38,400 on all devices.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I experienced this problem once. When I had the KX3/PX3/KXPA100 daisy chained together and one of the speeds was not at 38,400 things went brain dead just that way.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jack - KD4IZ
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 6/25/2015 12:37, James Bennett wrote:
>>>>>>> Have a KX3 and PX3 that have been working fine - until this morning. Today I am unable to have the KX3 connect to my computer if the PX3 is powered on. If I turn off the PX3, the KX3 serial - USB connections works fine. As soon as the PX3 is powered on, the connection goes away. I'm using Elecraft-supplied cables, not off-brands. The PX3 Utility cannot connect to the PX3 with the KX3 on or with it off. Other than the connection to my iMac being hosed, the PX3 and KX3 appear to be working just fine.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any suggestions how to determine what's going on?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tnx, Jim / W6JHB
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From w6jhb at me.com  Thu Jun 25 18:59:32 2015
From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:59:32 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem
In-Reply-To: <558C83E1.3050909@sonic.net>
References: <B63AFDB9-A045-4358-932F-B7982B50B0E1@me.com>
	<558C83E1.3050909@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <D695987A-C2AE-4EB8-9C57-36259ACFB67E@me.com>


> On   Thursday, Jun 25, 2015, at  Thursday, 3:42 PM, Alan <n1al at sonic.net> wrote:
> 
> Jim,
> 
> I would try the following troubleshooting procedure:
> 
> Connect the "XCVR" ACC1 RS-232 jack on the PX3 to the ACC1 jack on the KX3.  Turn them both on.  If the KX3 and PX3 work normally together (PX3 reads KX3 frequency on the screen, etc.) then the "XCVR" RS-232 port on the PX3 must be OK.
This works as expected. PX3 follows KX3 frequency, and the MRKR A QSY function works.
> 
> Now connect the PC to the "PC" ACC1 RS-232 port on the PX3 and turn off the PX3.  If KX3 Utility can connect to the KX3, then the cables and connectors must be good.
That works. the KX3 Utility is happy.
> 
> Now "without touching anything" turn on the PX3.  If:
> 
> - KX3 Utility can't connect to the KX3 and
KX3 utility not happy - can't see KX3.
> 
> - PX3 Utility can't connect to the PX3,
PX3 utility also unhappy.
> 
> then it sounds like the "PC" RS-232 port on the PX3 must have died somehow.
Yep. Not good. And I don't have any spares! :-( 

I just a few minutes ago posted about a quasi-workaround I came up for FD, but methinks Mr. KX3 is headed for surgery next week....
> 
> Alan N1AL
> 
> 
> On 06/25/2015 09:37 AM, James Bennett wrote:
>> Have a KX3 and PX3 that have been working fine - until this morning.
>> Today I am unable to have the KX3 connect to my computer if the PX3
>> is powered on. If I turn off the PX3, the KX3 serial - USB
>> connections works fine. As soon as the PX3 is powered on, the
>> connection goes away. I'm using Elecraft-supplied cables, not
>> off-brands. The PX3 Utility cannot connect to the PX3 with the KX3 on
>> or with it off. Other than the connection to my iMac being hosed, the
>> PX3 and KX3 appear to be working just fine.
>> 
>> Any suggestions how to determine what's going on?
>> 
>> Tnx, Jim / W6JHB
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From kl7uw at acsalaska.net  Thu Jun 25 19:28:29 2015
From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:28:29 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] KBPF3A and KBPF3B
Message-ID: <201506252328.t5PNSTMU001495@mail42c28.carrierzone.com>

I believe Wayne stated the caps on the main board that require 
replacement are 0403 sized sm "chips".

If you have never done any sm work you will find them very difficult 
to handle.  I have built some boards that use that size and had to 
use a magnifier to be able to see well enough to place them.  You 
need a very fine chisel-point solder iron and small jeweler's 
tweezers to handle them.  Also very small diameter solder.

I would recommend you find a nearby ham that does this kind of work 
or maybe a local two-way radio shop that does component level repair 
(though those are becoming rare).  In the end it may be better to 
send the radio into Elecraft and have all the work done by 
them.  Ham's in the lower-48 of the US this it not that bad.  For 
oversea's hams shipping and customs becomes a real hassle/expense.

I will make my own mods but I regularly build sm equipment and have 
the necessary equipment.  Saying that, 0403 are still very difficult 
for hand replacement.

73, Ed - KL7UW
the kits I build use 0805 & 1206 chips.

Message: 22
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:18:12 -0400
From: <ejkkjh at gmail.com>
To: "Wayne Burdick" <n6kr at elecraft.com>
Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KBPF3A and KBPF3B
Message-ID: <541B0A7DEB164B95BA75735F144A7F86 at ejhPC>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";
         reply-type=original

I think I understand all this now.
One other question, please.  Will it be possible to just send in the KBPF3
from my K3 to be modified by Elecraft?  not the whole K3?
I think I can handle installing the one cap on the RF board but never done
surface mounts.
Thank you  73
Emory  WM3M



73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
     "Kits made by KL7UW"
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From ebasilier at cox.net  Thu Jun 25 19:35:56 2015
From: ebasilier at cox.net (Erik Basilier)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:35:56 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: LINE OUT weirdness
Message-ID: <038c01d0af9f$af64bce0$0e2e36a0$@cox.net>

Earlier I reported a problem where the LINE OUT level setting had no effect
on the actual output level, but the front panel volume control did.

Well, I downloaded and installed latest firmware, which was different from
what I downloaded just a few days ago. That fixed both symptoms, except:

 

*         While the front panel volume can now be reduced to nothing while
the line output level is good and controlled by the menu setting, if I
increase the front panel volume above a certain level, it starts to cause
increased levels in the line output, as evidenced by the connected laptop's
waterfall.

*         The increased noise is not uniform across the audio spectrum, but
appears amplitude modulated with a sine wave so that about two noise maxima
are found per 500 Hz. Further increase in speaker volume results in stronger
"banding" of the noise.

*         With external speakers plugged in, the same happens, but
disconnecting one speaker leads to a marked reduction of the banding.

*         When no speaker is connected (uncorded plug in speaker jack),
there is no banding.

 

Note that I have disabled the built-in microphone in the connected computer,
and the speaker volume - related waterfall noise increase is not diminished
when I muffle the radio speaker by putting a book over it; nor do I see any
reaction when I whistle into the laptop's microphone.

 

My best guess at this time is that the added noise is caused either
inductively by speaker current affecting the radio's isolation transformers,
or the speaker amp current draw causing a variation in supply voltage, maybe
only in a local part of the radio. I have not yet checked the power supply
for hum etc. There might also be some grounding deficiency, as I have not
done any bonding between the boxes.

 

The waterfall shows a couple of constant audio tones of moderated strength,
located at about 1185 Hz and about 2370 Hz (if I can trust the calibration
within MMVARI). Years ago I did the hardware mod's relating to the speaker
amp, but I haven't checked for recent mod's.

 

Any comments or suggestions are welcome!

 

Thanks and 73,

Erik K7TV


From w7ox at socal.rr.com  Thu Jun 25 19:46:19 2015
From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:46:19 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KBPF3A and KBPF3B
In-Reply-To: <201506252328.t5PNSTMU001495@mail42c28.carrierzone.com>
References: <201506252328.t5PNSTMU001495@mail42c28.carrierzone.com>
Message-ID: <558C92CB.5010005@socal.rr.com>

The manual for the mod suggests it's not all that 
hard to do, Ed; I plan to and I don't work with 
SMT without due consideration.

In any case, you can send only the boards needing 
the mod to Elecraft, not the entire K3, according 
to an earlier post by Wayne

73, Phil W7OX



On 6/25/15 4:28 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:
> I believe Wayne stated the caps on the main 
> board that require replacement are 0403 sized sm 
> "chips".
>
> If you have never done any sm work you will find 
> them very difficult to handle.  I have built 
> some boards that use that size and had to use a 
> magnifier to be able to see well enough to place 
> them.  You need a very fine chisel-point solder 
> iron and small jeweler's tweezers to handle 
> them.  Also very small diameter solder.
>
> I would recommend you find a nearby ham that 
> does this kind of work or maybe a local two-way 
> radio shop that does component level repair 
> (though those are becoming rare).  In the end it 
> may be better to send the radio into Elecraft 
> and have all the work done by them.  Ham's in 
> the lower-48 of the US this it not that bad. For 
> oversea's hams shipping and customs becomes a 
> real hassle/expense.
>
> I will make my own mods but I regularly build sm 
> equipment and have the necessary equipment.  
> Saying that, 0403 are still very difficult for 
> hand replacement.
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> the kits I build use 0805 & 1206 chips.


From n4rp at n4rp.com  Thu Jun 25 19:52:05 2015
From: n4rp at n4rp.com (Ross Primrose)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:52:05 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KBPF3A and KBPF3B
In-Reply-To: <201506252328.t5PNSTMU001495@mail42c28.carrierzone.com>
References: <201506252328.t5PNSTMU001495@mail42c28.carrierzone.com>
Message-ID: <558C9425.1040403@n4rp.com>

On 6/25/2015 7:28 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:
> I believe Wayne stated the caps on the main board that require 
> replacement are 0403 sized sm "chips".
>

No.  On the main RF board (and the sub RX board if necessary) it's 
merely adding a through-hole cap.  If you have the KBPF3 (no A) then you 
need to do the SM work.  As Wayne stated earlier in the thread, you will 
be able to send your KBPF3(s) to Elecraft and have them do the work.  
AFAIK there is no KBPF3B ;)  If you've got/buy KBPF3A(s) then the mod is 
already done to them.

If I'm not mistaken, Mouser part # 647-RL81C221MDN1KX should be 
appropriate for use on the main RF board/sub RX.

73, Ross N4RP

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From jtmiller47 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 19:58:40 2015
From: jtmiller47 at gmail.com (Jim Miller)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:58:40 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] SMT handling tip
Message-ID: <9D1482BC-BF6E-4843-943E-FBE9FCCBB54E@gmail.com>

I handle all my small SMT parts with a toothpick dabbed in beeswax. I get the beeswax at Jo-Ann's sewing stores. 

Much easier than tweezers slipping and firing nearly invisible parts across the room. 

73

Jim ab3cv

From karlerb7 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 20:03:33 2015
From: karlerb7 at gmail.com (KarlErb)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:03:33 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem
In-Reply-To: <D341F0ED-99AA-4E06-9096-EC97E42EFDA7@me.com>
References: <B63AFDB9-A045-4358-932F-B7982B50B0E1@me.com>
	<558C5F04.4010603@frawg.org>
	<69C0CEDC-9790-49FD-B08E-C1109B604760@me.com>
	<C99665FC-DDDA-43EE-9ED3-545E0702555F@xmission.com>
	<72CAC08D-3099-4399-850F-01785AF64D16@me.com>
	<5AFF6554-A3BB-431A-9048-6D1AA68B206E@me.com>
	<E63BB64A-186E-4B70-BC19-7D3B169687F9@yahoo.co.uk>
	<D341F0ED-99AA-4E06-9096-EC97E42EFDA7@me.com>
Message-ID: <7456274A-97EC-4FC9-B641-46678C696A64@gmail.com>

James,

Glad you're set for Field Day.  RE your other concern:

My brother-in-law recommends putting one of her cashmere sweaters in the wash next time you do the laundry.  Says he did that years ago and has never since been allowed to do the laundry.

Karl
W3BF


> On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:51 PM, James Bennett <w6jhb at me.com> wrote:
> 
> The good news is that I had a brain f at rt while doing laundry - I disconnected the ACC1 cable between the KX3 and the PX3, then moved the Serial->USB from the computer directly into the KX3. This at least allows me to use the MLDX logging program on my iMac, and have panadapter display on the PX3. The only thing I loose is that the PX3 does not show the correct frequency. That's not an issue, as the KX3 shows it and the MLDX software sees and shows it too. So, due to my cranial flatulence, I'll still be able to use both units this weekend in Field Day!! My wife will probably tell me the bottom line is that I ought to do the laundry more often! Uh-oh....
> 
> 

From tony.kaz at verizon.net  Thu Jun 25 21:16:15 2015
From: tony.kaz at verizon.net (N2TK, Tony)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:16:15 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KBPF3 upgrade kit and instructions [Corrected]
In-Reply-To: <3BDD25A4-42EE-4914-803F-1AF7E9A53E1D@elecraft.com>
References: <FC1D78BB-47E4-4853-9E2F-FA6797304AF4@elecraft.com>
	<558C4128.9050204@socal.rr.com>
	<3BDD25A4-42EE-4914-803F-1AF7E9A53E1D@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <001a01d0afad$b46d0130$1d470390$@verizon.net>

And Jean-Luk,  where is 7 of 9?
N2TK, Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne
Burdick
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:20 PM
To: Phil Wheeler
Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KBPF3 upgrade kit and instructions [Corrected]

Hi Phil,

The errata were assimilated (er...incorporated :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Jun 25, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Phil Wheeler <w7ox at socal.rr.com> wrote:

> Ah, much better, Wayne: It now has all the pages referred to in the
errata.  BTW, is the errata still pertinent or is it OBE?
> 
> 73, Phil W7OX
> 
> On 6/25/15 9:13 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> The correct instruction sheet is now available on the order page for the
KBPF3 mod kit. You may need to hit "refresh" on your browser to see the
corrected link.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR


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From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Thu Jun 25 21:20:40 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Ken_ke2n via Elecraft)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:20:40 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] Monitor Audio
In-Reply-To: <1435238914771-7604288.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1435238914771-7604288.post@n2.nabble.com>
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<http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/file/n7604328/K3_line_out_temp_read.gif> 
K3_line_out_temp_read.gif
<http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/file/n7604328/K3_line_out_temp_read.gif>  

Here is what the audio looks like - there are two breaks of about 10-20 ms. 
There are two temperatures that it reads I guess ... (audio is FSK441 CQ
call)



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From gdaught6 at stanford.edu  Thu Jun 25 21:27:11 2015
From: gdaught6 at stanford.edu (gdaught6 at stanford.edu)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:27:11 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 / KX3 USB Problem
In-Reply-To: <7456274A-97EC-4FC9-B641-46678C696A64@gmail.com>
References: <B63AFDB9-A045-4358-932F-B7982B50B0E1@me.com>,
	<D341F0ED-99AA-4E06-9096-EC97E42EFDA7@me.com>,
	<7456274A-97EC-4FC9-B641-46678C696A64@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <558C47FF.29241.2A01865@gdaught6.stanford.edu>

Karl wrote...

> My brother-in-law recommends putting one of her cashmere sweaters in
> the wash next time you do the laundry.  Says he did that years ago
> and has never since been allowed to do the laundry.

Nice silk dresses are also effective!  8-)

73,

George T Daughters, K6GT
CU in the California QSO Party (CQP)
October 3-4, 2015



From n1nk at cox.net  Thu Jun 25 21:47:41 2015
From: n1nk at cox.net (Jim Spears)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 21:47:41 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] FS:  K144XV internal 2m module for K3/K3S
Message-ID: <020101d0afb2$171adba0$455092e0$@cox.net>

I decided I did not need the 2m module that has been installed in my K3 s/n
2295 so I am putting it up for sale.

 

All parts supplied with the original kit are included with exception of the
One Pin Connector (E620176) that is soldered onto the main RF board.

 

The rear panel that will be supplied is the KPA3 K3 Fan Panel (for a
K3/100), not the K3 Blank Panel (for a K3/10).

 

In addition, a K144XV Reference Oscillator Phase Lock module is supplied.
This locks the 2m module to the main K3REF master reference oscillator.

 

Current price for a new pair of modules is $390.  I am asking $275 shipped
stateside by Priority Mail.

 

PayPal is fine.

 

Jim/N1NK


From pkirley at fuse.net  Thu Jun 25 22:25:34 2015
From: pkirley at fuse.net (Paul Kirley)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:25:34 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware 5.26 and CONFIG:EXT ALC
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20150625222534.02766378@pop.fuse.net>

My K3 serial number is 1322; it is of 2008 vintage.  I loaded beta 5.26
firmware because I installed a newly purchased KXV3B transverter/preamp
board.

Today I noticed that new firmware version 5.29 was available.  When I
read the release notes, it looked like the release would not affect my
old K3, only newly minted K3S rigs.

But when I checked CONFIG:EXT ALC under version 5.26, I found the
setting to be ON t-5.5.  I changed this to OFF t-4.0, the default
according to the K3 manual.  (Numeric keypad 1 toggles between ON and
OFF, although the manual isn't specific.)

Then I cycled the power on my K3, a normal shutdown and startup.
Sadly, CONFIG:EXT ALC was back to ON t-5.5.

At that point, I decided that I had better install firmware version
5.29.  After its installation, I found the default CONFIG:EXT ALC
setting, which persisted after power cycling.  This is my preferred
setting, as I have nothing capable of more than 100 watts.

I also tested my K3 to see if version 5.29 would incorrectly reset a
non-default CONFIG:EXT ALC back to the default after power cycling, but
that problem did not occur.

Anyone who has loaded firmware version 5.26 would do well to replace it
with version 5.29 and then to check CONFIG:EXT ALC for his preferred
value.

Incidentally, I also looked at CONFIG:ADC REF, which I vaguely recalled
setting some time back.  It showed the non-default value 4.94 under
both firmware versions 5.26 and 5.29, which caused me no concern.

73, Paul W8TM


From w7ox at socal.rr.com  Thu Jun 25 22:56:07 2015
From: w7ox at socal.rr.com (Phil Wheeler)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:56:07 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware 5.26 and CONFIG:EXT ALC
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20150625222534.02766378@pop.fuse.net>
References: <3.0.6.32.20150625222534.02766378@pop.fuse.net>
Message-ID: <558CBF47.3060308@socal.rr.com>

Thanks for the report of your experience, Paul. 
I've not gone to 5.29 for the reasons you stated; 
now I will.

73, Phil W7OX

On 6/25/15 7:25 PM, Paul Kirley wrote:
> My K3 serial number is 1322; it is of 2008 vintage.  I loaded beta 5.26
> firmware because I installed a newly purchased KXV3B transverter/preamp
> board.
>
> Today I noticed that new firmware version 5.29 was available.  When I
> read the release notes, it looked like the release would not affect my
> old K3, only newly minted K3S rigs.
>
> But when I checked CONFIG:EXT ALC under version 5.26, I found the
> setting to be ON t-5.5.  I changed this to OFF t-4.0, the default
> according to the K3 manual.  (Numeric keypad 1 toggles between ON and
> OFF, although the manual isn't specific.)
>
> Then I cycled the power on my K3, a normal shutdown and startup.
> Sadly, CONFIG:EXT ALC was back to ON t-5.5.
>
> At that point, I decided that I had better install firmware version
> 5.29.  After its installation, I found the default CONFIG:EXT ALC
> setting, which persisted after power cycling.  This is my preferred
> setting, as I have nothing capable of more than 100 watts.
>
> I also tested my K3 to see if version 5.29 would incorrectly reset a
> non-default CONFIG:EXT ALC back to the default after power cycling, but
> that problem did not occur.
>
> Anyone who has loaded firmware version 5.26 would do well to replace it
> with version 5.29 and then to check CONFIG:EXT ALC for his preferred
> value.
>
> Incidentally, I also looked at CONFIG:ADC REF, which I vaguely recalled
> setting some time back.  It showed the non-default value 4.94 under
> both firmware versions 5.26 and 5.29, which caused me no concern.
>
> 73, Paul W8TM


From shadle at katzenfisch.com  Fri Jun 26 00:52:43 2015
From: shadle at katzenfisch.com (John Shadle)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:52:43 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] WTB: Elecraft KPA-500
Message-ID: <CAB3n5HJwrCU3Y2ss8mQdekP7ya895CY2_NZsBwUy0YvT6B+r+w@mail.gmail.com>

Please let me know if you are selling your KPA-500.
Thanks!
-john NE4U
Madison, WI

From n6kr at elecraft.com  Fri Jun 26 01:51:37 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:51:37 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware 5.26 and CONFIG:EXT ALC
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20150625222534.02766378@pop.fuse.net>
References: <3.0.6.32.20150625222534.02766378@pop.fuse.net>
Message-ID: <90411649-6442-411D-9795-D37103F292B4@elecraft.com>

Hi Paul,

Yes -- I highly recommend using rev. 5.29 for this reason. I meant to post on this earlier.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jun 25, 2015, at 7:25 PM, Paul Kirley <pkirley at fuse.net> wrote:

> My K3 serial number is 1322; it is of 2008 vintage.  I loaded beta 5.26
> firmware because I installed a newly purchased KXV3B transverter/preamp
> board.
> 
> Today I noticed that new firmware version 5.29 was available.  When I
> read the release notes, it looked like the release would not affect my
> old K3, only newly minted K3S rigs.
> 
> But when I checked CONFIG:EXT ALC under version 5.26, I found the
> setting to be ON t-5.5.  I changed this to OFF t-4.0, the default
> according to the K3 manual.  (Numeric keypad 1 toggles between ON and
> OFF, although the manual isn't specific.)
> 
> Then I cycled the power on my K3, a normal shutdown and startup.
> Sadly, CONFIG:EXT ALC was back to ON t-5.5.
> 
> At that point, I decided that I had better install firmware version
> 5.29.  After its installation, I found the default CONFIG:EXT ALC
> setting, which persisted after power cycling.  This is my preferred
> setting, as I have nothing capable of more than 100 watts.
> 
> I also tested my K3 to see if version 5.29 would incorrectly reset a
> non-default CONFIG:EXT ALC back to the default after power cycling, but
> that problem did not occur.
> 
> Anyone who has loaded firmware version 5.26 would do well to replace it
> with version 5.29 and then to check CONFIG:EXT ALC for his preferred
> value.
> 
> Incidentally, I also looked at CONFIG:ADC REF, which I vaguely recalled
> setting some time back.  It showed the non-default value 4.94 under
> both firmware versions 5.26 and 5.29, which caused me no concern.
> 
> 73, Paul W8TM
> 
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From n6kr at elecraft.com  Fri Jun 26 01:56:54 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:56:54 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KBPF3A and KBPF3B
In-Reply-To: <201506252328.t5PNSTMU001495@mail42c28.carrierzone.com>
References: <201506252328.t5PNSTMU001495@mail42c28.carrierzone.com>
Message-ID: <87F44222-4678-4DDF-8EE7-B19A9F22A53D@elecraft.com>

They're 0603 size, which is a *lot* easier to handle than 0403. But you'll still need tweezers and good eyesight (or what we fondly call a "Geezer Gazer").

If you have any doubts about your ability to tackle this mod, you might practice with some random SMD capacitors on scrap board, first. Or send your KBPF3 to us to add the new capacitors.

Wayne
N6KR


On Jun 25, 2015, at 4:28 PM, Edward R Cole <kl7uw at acsalaska.net> wrote:

> I believe Wayne stated the caps on the main board that require replacement are 0403 sized sm "chips".
> 
> If you have never done any sm work you will find them very difficult to handle.  I have built some boards that use that size and had to use a magnifier to be able to see well enough to place them.  You need a very fine chisel-point solder iron and small jeweler's tweezers to handle them.  Also very small diameter solder.
> 
> I would recommend you find a nearby ham that does this kind of work or maybe a local two-way radio shop that does component level repair (though those are becoming rare).  In the end it may be better to send the radio into Elecraft and have all the work done by them.  Ham's in the lower-48 of the US this it not that bad.  For oversea's hams shipping and customs becomes a real hassle/expense.
> 
> I will make my own mods but I regularly build sm equipment and have the necessary equipment.  Saying that, 0403 are still very difficult for hand replacement.
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> the kits I build use 0805 & 1206 chips.
> 
> Message: 22
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:18:12 -0400
> From: <ejkkjh at gmail.com>
> To: "Wayne Burdick" <n6kr at elecraft.com>
> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KBPF3A and KBPF3B
> Message-ID: <541B0A7DEB164B95BA75735F144A7F86 at ejhPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";
>        reply-type=original
> 
> I think I understand all this now.
> One other question, please.  Will it be possible to just send in the KBPF3
> from my K3 to be modified by Elecraft?  not the whole K3?
> I think I can handle installing the one cap on the RF board but never done
> surface mounts.
> Thank you  73
> Emory  WM3M
> 
> 
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> http://www.kl7uw.com
>    "Kits made by KL7UW"
> Dubus Mag business:
>    dubususa at gmail.com
> 
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From kl7uw at acsalaska.net  Fri Jun 26 02:46:45 2015
From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:46:45 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] KBPF3A and KBPF3B
In-Reply-To: <558C9425.1040403@n4rp.com>
References: <201506252328.t5PNSTMU001495@mail42c28.carrierzone.com>
	<558C9425.1040403@n4rp.com>
Message-ID: <201506260646.t5Q6kjAF013510@mail41c28.carrierzone.com>

Ross and all:

OK, my error.  I thought the caps on the main board were sm 0403 
caps.  By replacing the KBPF3 with the A version would avoid sm work, 
or if you do not presently have the KBPF3 then the new KPBF3A will 
have the necessary changes incorporated.  That should make upgrading 
the K3 easier for many folks who are unfamiliar with sm work.

Trying to do sm for the first time would not be advisable with 0403 
sized components.  Start out with 1206 or 0805.

73, Ed - KL7UW

At 03:52 PM 6/25/2015, Ross Primrose wrote:
>On 6/25/2015 7:28 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:
>>I believe Wayne stated the caps on the main board that require 
>>replacement are 0403 sized sm "chips".
>
>No.  On the main RF board (and the sub RX board if necessary) it's 
>merely adding a through-hole cap.  If you have the KBPF3 (no A) then 
>you need to do the SM work.  As Wayne stated earlier in the thread, 
>you will be able to send your KBPF3(s) to Elecraft and have them do the work.
>AFAIK there is no KBPF3B ;)  If you've got/buy KBPF3A(s) then the 
>mod is already done to them.
>
>If I'm not mistaken, Mouser part # 647-RL81C221MDN1KX should be 
>appropriate for use on the main RF board/sub RX.
>
>73, Ross N4RP
>
>--
>FCC Section 97.313(a) "At all times, an amateur station must use the 
>minimum transmitter power necessary to carry out the desired communications."

73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
     "Kits made by KL7UW"
Dubus Mag business:
     dubususa at gmail.com


From david at aslinvc.com  Fri Jun 26 05:46:49 2015
From: david at aslinvc.com (Dave G3WGN M6O)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 02:46:49 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards
In-Reply-To: <558C0C05.2040909@subich.com>
References: <149de47b36bf4e8c8e833c8f4912bfa3@SEHSTE15D2BE6.hs20.net>
	<1435238077650-7604287.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<558C0C05.2040909@subich.com>
Message-ID: <1435312009030-7604339.post@n2.nabble.com>

Thanks Joe for a very helpful note.  This will materially aid my 'birdie
hunting' when I upgrade S/N 4474 with new synths and internal preamp in a
couple of weeks time.
73 Dave G3WGN M6O WJ6O



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From mike.harris at horizon.co.fk  Fri Jun 26 08:14:39 2015
From: mike.harris at horizon.co.fk (Mike Harris)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 09:14:39 -0300
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware 5.26 and CONFIG:EXT ALC
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20150625222534.02766378@pop.fuse.net>
References: <3.0.6.32.20150625222534.02766378@pop.fuse.net>
Message-ID: <558D422F.9030700@horizon.co.fk>

K3 #1400 with 5.26

CONFIG:EXT ALC Set to OFF t-4.0.  Changed it to ON t-5.0 and cycled 
power, still ON t-5.0.

Restored to OFF t-4.0 and after power cycle still OFF t-4.0.

So #1400 under 5.26 is behaving as it should here.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO


On 25/06/2015 23:25, Paul Kirley wrote:
> My K3 serial number is 1322; it is of 2008 vintage.  I loaded beta 5.26
> firmware because I installed a newly purchased KXV3B transverter/preamp
> board.
>
> Today I noticed that new firmware version 5.29 was available.  When I
> read the release notes, it looked like the release would not affect my
> old K3, only newly minted K3S rigs.
>
> But when I checked CONFIG:EXT ALC under version 5.26, I found the
> setting to be ON t-5.5.  I changed this to OFF t-4.0, the default
> according to the K3 manual.  (Numeric keypad 1 toggles between ON and
> OFF, although the manual isn't specific.)
>
> Then I cycled the power on my K3, a normal shutdown and startup.
> Sadly, CONFIG:EXT ALC was back to ON t-5.5.
>
> At that point, I decided that I had better install firmware version
> 5.29.  After its installation, I found the default CONFIG:EXT ALC
> setting, which persisted after power cycling.  This is my preferred
> setting, as I have nothing capable of more than 100 watts.
>
> I also tested my K3 to see if version 5.29 would incorrectly reset a
> non-default CONFIG:EXT ALC back to the default after power cycling, but
> that problem did not occur.
>
> Anyone who has loaded firmware version 5.26 would do well to replace it
> with version 5.29 and then to check CONFIG:EXT ALC for his preferred
> value.
>
> Incidentally, I also looked at CONFIG:ADC REF, which I vaguely recalled
> setting some time back.  It showed the non-default value 4.94 under
> both firmware versions 5.26 and 5.29, which caused me no concern.
>
> 73, Paul W8TM

From n6kr at elecraft.com  Fri Jun 26 09:27:18 2015
From: n6kr at elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 06:27:18 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware 5.26 and CONFIG:EXT ALC
In-Reply-To: <558D422F.9030700@horizon.co.fk>
References: <3.0.6.32.20150625222534.02766378@pop.fuse.net>
	<558D422F.9030700@horizon.co.fk>
Message-ID: <DD309130-15E6-4EEC-B1E5-D9072A0FBC54@elecraft.com>

But on an EEINIT it may get set back to ON under 5.26. That won't happen under 5.29.

Wayne
N6KR


On Jun 26, 2015, at 5:14 AM, Mike Harris <mike.harris at horizon.co.fk> wrote:

> K3 #1400 with 5.26
> 
> CONFIG:EXT ALC Set to OFF t-4.0.  Changed it to ON t-5.0 and cycled power, still ON t-5.0.
> 
> Restored to OFF t-4.0 and after power cycle still OFF t-4.0.
> 
> So #1400 under 5.26 is behaving as it should here.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike VP8NO
> 
> 
> On 25/06/2015 23:25, Paul Kirley wrote:
>> My K3 serial number is 1322; it is of 2008 vintage.  I loaded beta 5.26
>> firmware because I installed a newly purchased KXV3B transverter/preamp
>> board.
>> 
>> Today I noticed that new firmware version 5.29 was available.  When I
>> read the release notes, it looked like the release would not affect my
>> old K3, only newly minted K3S rigs.
>> 
>> But when I checked CONFIG:EXT ALC under version 5.26, I found the
>> setting to be ON t-5.5.  I changed this to OFF t-4.0, the default
>> according to the K3 manual.  (Numeric keypad 1 toggles between ON and
>> OFF, although the manual isn't specific.)
>> 
>> Then I cycled the power on my K3, a normal shutdown and startup.
>> Sadly, CONFIG:EXT ALC was back to ON t-5.5.
>> 
>> At that point, I decided that I had better install firmware version
>> 5.29.  After its installation, I found the default CONFIG:EXT ALC
>> setting, which persisted after power cycling.  This is my preferred
>> setting, as I have nothing capable of more than 100 watts.
>> 
>> I also tested my K3 to see if version 5.29 would incorrectly reset a
>> non-default CONFIG:EXT ALC back to the default after power cycling, but
>> that problem did not occur.
>> 
>> Anyone who has loaded firmware version 5.26 would do well to replace it
>> with version 5.29 and then to check CONFIG:EXT ALC for his preferred
>> value.
>> 
>> Incidentally, I also looked at CONFIG:ADC REF, which I vaguely recalled
>> setting some time back.  It showed the non-default value 4.94 under
>> both firmware versions 5.26 and 5.29, which caused me no concern.
>> 
>> 73, Paul W8TM
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From indians at xsmail.com  Fri Jun 26 09:34:41 2015
From: indians at xsmail.com (ok1rp)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 06:34:41 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] SMT handling tip
In-Reply-To: <9D1482BC-BF6E-4843-943E-FBE9FCCBB54E@gmail.com>
References: <9D1482BC-BF6E-4843-943E-FBE9FCCBB54E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1435325681485-7604342.post@n2.nabble.com>

Jim,

I am using the Sticky pen. It works nice for me.

http://kitman-electronics.blogspot.com/2013/10/sticky-pen-for-smd-and-tiny-parts.html
http://kitman.eprodavac.cz/adhezivni-smd-pero-stickypen-70/

73 - Petr, OK1RP



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From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Fri Jun 26 11:48:10 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (George via Elecraft)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 08:48:10 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] SMT handling tip
In-Reply-To: <1435325681485-7604342.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <9D1482BC-BF6E-4843-943E-FBE9FCCBB54E@gmail.com>
	<1435325681485-7604342.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1435333690799-7604343.post@n2.nabble.com>

Wow, are they available anywhere in the USA?  72 George/W2BPI



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From huntinhmb at coastside.net  Fri Jun 26 12:26:43 2015
From: huntinhmb at coastside.net (Brian Hunt)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 09:26:43 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] SMT handling tip
In-Reply-To: <1435333690799-7604343.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <9D1482BC-BF6E-4843-943E-FBE9FCCBB54E@gmail.com>
	<1435325681485-7604342.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<1435333690799-7604343.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <C284B65F-10DB-4FEC-8389-1304145DE4B6@coastside.net>

The company is Shesto in the UK. There is no USA distributer listed on their website. Hobby Lobby may have something similar?  There's a vacuum version listed on Amazon. Not the same company tho. 

73,
Brian, K0DTJ 

> Wow, are they available anywhere in the USA?  72 George/W2BPI
> 

From k9qjs at icloud.com  Fri Jun 26 12:38:00 2015
From: k9qjs at icloud.com (Jim Hooper)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 09:38:00 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: was not able to update firmware using a directory
	different from the default directory
Message-ID: <CFE64A6B-0D45-484F-A6FF-DD357BEFC853@icloud.com>

I got an error message ?One or more required firmware files is missing? when running the K3 Utility, even after I ?Copy new files from Elecraft?.   I created a new folder:  /Elecraft/K3 Firmware/K3fw5r29   but I was not able not able to ?Send new firmware to the K3?.    

Then I changed to the default folder, got new firmware from the Elecraft site, and ?Send new firmware to K3? was successful.   

Current status is that 5.29 firmware has been successfully loaded using the Default directory.   So no problem here.   

But still, why was I not able to use the folder I had selected.   ? 

Thanks, 73, Hoop K9QJS   ? 


K3 Utility MAC is 1.14.10.24 

Currently installed in K3 is: 

MCU 5.14
FPF 1.19
DSP1 2.83 
DSP2 N/A
DVR 1.03 

Available in folder 

MCU 5.29 
FPF 1.22 
DSP1 2.83
DSP2 2.83 
[Appear to be missing available software for DVR] 




From nf4l at comcast.net  Fri Jun 26 12:39:00 2015
From: nf4l at comcast.net (Mike Reublin NF4L)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 12:39:00 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] SMT handling tip
In-Reply-To: <1435333690799-7604343.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <9D1482BC-BF6E-4843-943E-FBE9FCCBB54E@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <8CEBB3D3-079E-4E7F-973B-01C1AABF4E00@comcast.net>

The dab of beeswax on a toothpick that someone else posted looked good to me.

73, Mike NF4L


> On Jun 26, 2015, at 11:48 AM, George via Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> Wow, are they available anywhere in the USA?  72 George/W2BPI
> 
> 
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From k1xx at k1xx.com  Fri Jun 26 12:42:55 2015
From: k1xx at k1xx.com (charlie carroll)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 12:42:55 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] SMT handling tip
In-Reply-To: <C284B65F-10DB-4FEC-8389-1304145DE4B6@coastside.net>
References: <9D1482BC-BF6E-4843-943E-FBE9FCCBB54E@gmail.com>
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	<C284B65F-10DB-4FEC-8389-1304145DE4B6@coastside.net>
Message-ID: <558D810F.1000606@k1xx.com>

Look under Pick and Place tools at www.modelcrafttoolsusa.com.

73 charlie, k1xx

On 6/26/2015 12:26 PM, Brian Hunt wrote:
> The company is Shesto in the UK. There is no USA distributer listed on their website. Hobby Lobby may have something similar?  There's a vacuum version listed on Amazon. Not the same company tho. 
>
> 73,
> Brian, K0DTJ 
>
>> Wow, are they available anywhere in the USA?  72 George/W2BPI
>>
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From tbryan at nova.org  Fri Jun 26 12:47:07 2015
From: tbryan at nova.org (Tom B)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 12:47:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Elecraft] SMT handling tip
In-Reply-To: <C284B65F-10DB-4FEC-8389-1304145DE4B6@coastside.net>
References: <9D1482BC-BF6E-4843-943E-FBE9FCCBB54E@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <64029.152.120.22.52.1435337227.squirrel@mail.nova.org>

Try ebay 400911355729
UK seller but has free shipping.

Tom Bryan
N3AJA


> The company is Shesto in the UK. There is no USA distributer listed on
> their website. Hobby Lobby may have something similar?  There's a vacuum
> version listed on Amazon. Not the same company tho.


From k2av.guy at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 13:18:59 2015
From: k2av.guy at gmail.com (Guy Olinger K2AV)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 13:18:59 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: was not able to update firmware using a
 directory different from the default directory
In-Reply-To: <CFE64A6B-0D45-484F-A6FF-DD357BEFC853@icloud.com>
References: <CFE64A6B-0D45-484F-A6FF-DD357BEFC853@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <CANckpc3ORWbvoFBb7ckh9H7DXSyxSE0iaTELig+pA=aiCRCyaA@mail.gmail.com>

DVR firmware hasn't changed in long long time. DVRs have come from factory
with latest for long long time.

73, Guy K2AV

On Friday, June 26, 2015, Jim Hooper <k9qjs at icloud.com> wrote:

> I got an error message ?One or more required firmware files is missing?
> when running the K3 Utility, even after I ?Copy new files from Elecraft?.
>  I created a new folder:  /Elecraft/K3 Firmware/K3fw5r29   but I was not
> able not able to ?Send new firmware to the K3?.
>
> Then I changed to the default folder, got new firmware from the Elecraft
> site, and ?Send new firmware to K3? was successful.
>
> Current status is that 5.29 firmware has been successfully loaded using
> the Default directory.   So no problem here.
>
> But still, why was I not able to use the folder I had selected.   ?
>
> Thanks, 73, Hoop K9QJS   ?
>
>
> K3 Utility MAC is 1.14.10.24
>
> Currently installed in K3 is:
>
> MCU 5.14
> FPF 1.19
> DSP1 2.83
> DSP2 N/A
> DVR 1.03
>
> Available in folder
>
> MCU 5.29
> FPF 1.22
> DSP1 2.83
> DSP2 2.83
> [Appear to be missing available software for DVR]
>
>
>
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From dick at elecraft.com  Fri Jun 26 13:27:46 2015
From: dick at elecraft.com (Dick Dievendorff)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 10:27:46 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: was not able to update firmware using a
	directory different from the default directory
In-Reply-To: <CANckpc3ORWbvoFBb7ckh9H7DXSyxSE0iaTELig+pA=aiCRCyaA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CFE64A6B-0D45-484F-A6FF-DD357BEFC853@icloud.com>
	<CANckpc3ORWbvoFBb7ckh9H7DXSyxSE0iaTELig+pA=aiCRCyaA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9DEEA81F-E2A6-4255-9BBD-A22B24436BB2@elecraft.com>

There is a tiny boot and dtbl file missing. The list is in k3 utility help under troubleshooting missing files.

In general, I'd advise taking the whole zip file, rather than picking and choosing individual files. The files have non obvious interdependencies, MCU to FPF and DSP, and DSP to tboot and dtbl files.

The DVR firmware is factory supplied, not changeable through the utility.





> On Jun 26, 2015, at 10:18, Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av.guy at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> DVR firmware hasn't changed in long long time. DVRs have come from factory
> with latest for long long time.
> 
> 73, Guy K2AV
> 
>> On Friday, June 26, 2015, Jim Hooper <k9qjs at icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I got an error message ?One or more required firmware files is missing?
>> when running the K3 Utility, even after I ?Copy new files from Elecraft?.
>> I created a new folder:  /Elecraft/K3 Firmware/K3fw5r29   but I was not
>> able not able to ?Send new firmware to the K3?.
>> 
>> Then I changed to the default folder, got new firmware from the Elecraft
>> site, and ?Send new firmware to K3? was successful.
>> 
>> Current status is that 5.29 firmware has been successfully loaded using
>> the Default directory.   So no problem here.
>> 
>> But still, why was I not able to use the folder I had selected.   ?
>> 
>> Thanks, 73, Hoop K9QJS   ?
>> 
>> 
>> K3 Utility MAC is 1.14.10.24
>> 
>> Currently installed in K3 is:
>> 
>> MCU 5.14
>> FPF 1.19
>> DSP1 2.83
>> DSP2 N/A
>> DVR 1.03
>> 
>> Available in folder
>> 
>> MCU 5.29
>> FPF 1.22
>> DSP1 2.83
>> DSP2 2.83
>> [Appear to be missing available software for DVR]
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From phils at riousa.com  Fri Jun 26 13:33:17 2015
From: phils at riousa.com (Phil Shepard)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 10:33:17 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] SSB net needs a new NCS
In-Reply-To: <8605E64D-BDE7-43AD-AFFE-469FB5304B7C@riousa.com>
References: <8605E64D-BDE7-43AD-AFFE-469FB5304B7C@riousa.com>
Message-ID: <AD010990-D1BA-4767-A2F6-12A3BFDABD56@riousa.com>

Thank you to all of you for your warm and caring wishes to me in my time of illness. I will take that energy with me as I work on healing.  Good luck to all of you on the SSB net and the broader Elecraft community. A fine group of hams!

73,
Phil, NS7P


> On Jun 21, 2015, at 10:36 AM, Phil Shepard <phils at riousa.com> wrote:
> 
> I have been the NCS for the Sunday Elecraft SSB net for six and a half years, and I have enjoyed it thoroughly.  However, I have not been well this spring.  My health has been a complex puzzle. but it looks like a diagnosis is at hand.  Unfortunately, I have Parkinson?s disease.
> 
> It the near time, operating the net is too taxing for me.  I have started medication therapy, so down the road, who knows.  But I think it is time for someone else to give it a go!  All the best to the great Elecraft gang.  You are like friends to me.  Good luck to whoever picks up the net.  I?ll still be around.  Listen for my signal.
> 
> 73,
> Phil, NS7P
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From km4ik.ian at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 13:41:24 2015
From: km4ik.ian at gmail.com (Ian - Ham)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 13:41:24 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] No Elecraft SSB Net This Sunday, June 28
Message-ID: <018b01d0b037$52b5cb40$f82161c0$@gmail.com>

All,

 

Due to Field Day this weekend, there will be no Elecraft SSB Net this
Sunday, June 28.

 

Everyone have a safe, fun, wonderful Field Day. The net returns Sunday, July
5.

 

73 de,

 

--Ian

Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik.ian at gmail.com <mailto:km4ik.ian at gmail.com> 

10-10 #74624, North Georgia Chapter #2038

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K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468

 



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From k9qjs at icloud.com  Fri Jun 26 13:51:41 2015
From: k9qjs at icloud.com (Jim Hooper)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 10:51:41 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: was not able to update firmware using a
	directory different from the default directory
In-Reply-To: <9DEEA81F-E2A6-4255-9BBD-A22B24436BB2@elecraft.com>
References: <CFE64A6B-0D45-484F-A6FF-DD357BEFC853@icloud.com>
	<CANckpc3ORWbvoFBb7ckh9H7DXSyxSE0iaTELig+pA=aiCRCyaA@mail.gmail.com>
	<9DEEA81F-E2A6-4255-9BBD-A22B24436BB2@elecraft.com>
Message-ID: <45CDB4BB-B006-40FF-97B4-DA7626B75C53@icloud.com>

Dick, 

Yes, thanks.   ?tboot.hex? was missing.   I had used the K3 Utility to ?Copy New Files from Elecraft? so I am thinking that the tboot.hex file was not included in the files copied from Elecraft into the new director.   ??? 

Hoop



On Jun 26, 2015, at 10:27 , Dick Dievendorff <dick at elecraft.com> wrote:

There is a tiny boot and dtbl file missing. The list is in k3 utility help under troubleshooting missing files.

In general, I'd advise taking the whole zip file, rather than picking and choosing individual files. The files have non obvious interdependencies, MCU to FPF and DSP, and DSP to tboot and dtbl files.

The DVR firmware is factory supplied, not changeable through the utility.





> On Jun 26, 2015, at 10:18, Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av.guy at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> DVR firmware hasn't changed in long long time. DVRs have come from factory
> with latest for long long time.
> 
> 73, Guy K2AV
> 
>> On Friday, June 26, 2015, Jim Hooper <k9qjs at icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I got an error message ?One or more required firmware files is missing?
>> when running the K3 Utility, even after I ?Copy new files from Elecraft?.
>> I created a new folder:  /Elecraft/K3 Firmware/K3fw5r29   but I was not
>> able not able to ?Send new firmware to the K3?.
>> 
>> Then I changed to the default folder, got new firmware from the Elecraft
>> site, and ?Send new firmware to K3? was successful.
>> 
>> Current status is that 5.29 firmware has been successfully loaded using
>> the Default directory.   So no problem here.
>> 
>> But still, why was I not able to use the folder I had selected.   ?
>> 
>> Thanks, 73, Hoop K9QJS   ?
>> 
>> 
>> K3 Utility MAC is 1.14.10.24
>> 
>> Currently installed in K3 is:
>> 
>> MCU 5.14
>> FPF 1.19
>> DSP1 2.83
>> DSP2 N/A
>> DVR 1.03
>> 
>> Available in folder
>> 
>> MCU 5.29
>> FPF 1.22
>> DSP1 2.83
>> DSP2 2.83
>> [Appear to be missing available software for DVR]
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From Gary at ka1j.com  Fri Jun 26 14:03:50 2015
From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:03:50 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
Message-ID: <558D9406.1501.2B33E35@Gary.ka1j.com>

I've not been able to get my windows 
computer to automatically update for a 
long time now and I've tried everything I 
could uncover via google & forums. 

Since I use the computer for logging and 
contesting, having the real time on my 
computer is important so I've had to tune 
to WWV and manually sync the minutes and 
seconds and doing this repeatedly is a PIT 
kiester. Even with a new battery, this 
computer loses 5-6 seconds a month and I 
dislike having to constantly go through 
the resetting procedure. 

I found the National Institute of 
Standards and Technology, a govt. agency, 
has a free software that will do this for 
you.

http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/its.c
fm
or: http://tinyurl.com/4s9agpw

There's a tiny learning curve and for a 
server under the file button, I needed to 
select the 2nd option and checked the NTP 
format option for it to work but it now 
updates in maybe 2 seconds and gives you 
the option of syncing in real time or not.

Once you have it working, save the config 
under the file option and it will remember 
your selected option.

I'm assuming we all want our time to be 
correct so I'm posting this here and on a 
couple of other Ham groups I follow.

Now back to our regularly scheduled 
Elecraft postings.

73,

Gary
KA1J

From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Fri Jun 26 14:24:36 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:24:36 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <558D9406.1501.2B33E35@Gary.ka1j.com>
References: <558D9406.1501.2B33E35@Gary.ka1j.com>
Message-ID: <558D98E4.4020907@embarqmail.com>

Gary,

If you are on a Windows platform, look into Atomic Clock Sync.  It can 
sync periodically or manually and the user interface is easy.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/26/2015 2:03 PM, Gary Smith wrote:
> I've not been able to get my windows
> computer to automatically update for a
> long time now and I've tried everything I
> could uncover via google & forums.
>
> Since I use the computer for logging and
> contesting, having the real time on my
> computer is important so I've had to tune
> to WWV and manually sync the minutes and
> seconds and doing this repeatedly is a PIT
> kiester. Even with a new battery, this
> computer loses 5-6 seconds a month and I
> dislike having to constantly go through
> the resetting procedure.
>
> I found the National Institute of
> Standards and Technology, a govt. agency,
> has a free software that will do this for
> you.
>
> http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/its.c
> fm
> or: http://tinyurl.com/4s9agpw
>
> There's a tiny learning curve and for a
> server under the file button, I needed to
> select the 2nd option and checked the NTP
> format option for it to work but it now
> updates in maybe 2 seconds and gives you
> the option of syncing in real time or not.
>
> Once you have it working, save the config
> under the file option and it will remember
> your selected option.
>
> I'm assuming we all want our time to be
> correct so I'm posting this here and on a
> couple of other Ham groups I follow.
>
> Now back to our regularly scheduled
> Elecraft postings.
>
> 73,
>
> Gary
> KA1J
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From w4grj at satterfield.org  Fri Jun 26 14:32:28 2015
From: w4grj at satterfield.org (w4grj)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:32:28 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 & P3 For Sale
In-Reply-To: <000301d0a185$ee5c40d0$cb14c270$@org>
References: <0NPK00KGKU04Y740@vms172077.mailsrvcs.net>
	<1433688177.90962.YahooMailBasic@web140103.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<000301d0a185$ee5c40d0$cb14c270$@org>
Message-ID: <001001d0b03e$75432520$5fc96f60$@org>


For Sale K3 serial 3746 and P3 serial 1020 Both Factory Assembled

K3/100
KAT3 ATU
KRX3 2nd Rcvr
KXF3A IF out and xverter for P3
2- KF3A 2.8k 8pole filter
KFL3A 1.8k 8pole filter
KFL3A 400 8pole filter
KFL3A 6k 8pole filter
KFL3B 13k FM filter
Included associated interconnect cables
Original cost over $4700

Sell for $3785 includes mailing / insurance
All perfect condition, non smoking environment. 

Please reply offline.
Tnx,
Jack
W4GRJ



From km4ik.ian at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 14:58:06 2015
From: km4ik.ian at gmail.com (Ian - Ham)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:58:06 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Results - 6/22/2015
Message-ID: <01bc01d0b042$0992cc50$1cb864f0$@gmail.com>

All,

 

Here are the results from last weekend's SSB net. I apologize for the
extensive and unacceptable delay in getting the report out.

 

VE7EAR                Al            BC           KX3        3158

N6JW                    John      CA          K3           936

NC0JW                  Jim         CO          KX3        1356

WB9JNZ               Eric         IL             K3           4017

KC0XT                   Dave      CA          KX3        6980

W4RKS                  Jim         TX           K3           3618

W8OV                   Dave      TX           K3           3139

W7HD/M             Ron        AZ           KX3        6966

W6NIA                  Matt      CA          KX3        6

AI6II                       Mike      CA          K3           4454

K6WDE/KH6       Dave      HI            KX3        4599

KF5IMA                Bruce    MS         K2           3575

VE6EI                     Joel        AB          KX3        4129

NS7P                     Phil         OR          K3           1826

W0CZ                    Ken        ND          K3           457

VE6HBS                Bryan    AB          K2           6175

KS7D                      Mike      FL            K2           4443

N2LRB                   Raul       NY          KX3        7743

W7QHD                Curt       AZ           K2           1538

W5SV                    Dave      TX           K3           5354

KM4IK                   Ian          GA          K3           281

 

Have a fun, safe, wonderful Field Day, everyone!

 

73 de,

 

--Ian

Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik.ian at gmail.com <mailto:km4ik.ian at gmail.com> 

10-10 #74624, North Georgia Chapter #2038

PODXS 070 #1962
K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468

 



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From w0fm at swbell.net  Fri Jun 26 15:39:48 2015
From: w0fm at swbell.net (Terry Schieler)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:39:48 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] AM & FM Filters
Message-ID: <001b01d0b047$dd9db050$98d910f0$@net>

I am "building" a K3S on paper and have a filter question.  I am told that if I want AM and FM transmit capabilities I can just order the 13kHz FM filter and save the price of the 6kHz AM filter.  Certainly seems logical that the 13kHz FM filter bandwidth could handle the 6kHz AM signal (no interest in ESSB).  Just curious as to whether there are any unforeseen bumps in the road in doing this.  Makes me wonder why anyone would order the AM filter if the FM would cover both.  
 
Thanks.
 
73 de Terry W0FM

From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Fri Jun 26 16:02:40 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Sfbonk via Elecraft)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 16:02:40 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <558D98E4.4020907@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <14e317705a9-7ab2-27da5@webstg-m08.mail.aol.com>


 

Went to check that the clock was set for internet updates - it was.

Something useful I saw was the ability to set a second clock which I did. UTC is one of the selections. Put the mouse over the time and both clocks come up in a small window.

W3OU, Steve



 

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Wilhelm <w3fpr at embarqmail.com>
To: Gary <Gary at ka1j.com>; elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Fri, Jun 26, 2015 2:26 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST


Gary,

If you are on a Windows platform, look into Atomic Clock Sync.  It can

sync periodically or manually and the user interface is easy.

73,
Don
W3FPR

On 6/26/2015 2:03 PM, Gary Smith wrote:
> I've not been able to get my
windows
> computer to automatically update for a
> long time now and I've
tried everything I
> could uncover via google & forums.
>
> Since I use the
computer for logging and
> contesting, having the real time on my
> computer
is important so I've had to tune
> to WWV and manually sync the minutes and
>
seconds and doing this repeatedly is a PIT
> kiester. Even with a new battery,
this
> computer loses 5-6 seconds a month and I
> dislike having to constantly
go through
> the resetting procedure.
>
> I found the National Institute
of
> Standards and Technology, a govt. agency,
> has a free software that will
do this for
> you.
>
> http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/its.c
> fm
>
or: http://tinyurl.com/4s9agpw
>
> There's a tiny learning curve and for a
>
server under the file button, I needed to
> select the 2nd option and checked
the NTP
> format option for it to work but it now
> updates in maybe 2 seconds
and gives you
> the option of syncing in real time or not.
>
> Once you have
it working, save the config
> under the file option and it will remember
>
your selected option.
>
> I'm assuming we all want our time to be
> correct
so I'm posting this here and on a
> couple of other Ham groups I follow.
>
>
Now back to our regularly scheduled
> Elecraft postings.
>
> 73,
>
>
Gary
> KA1J
>
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From dick at elecraft.com  Fri Jun 26 16:08:12 2015
From: dick at elecraft.com (Dick Dievendorff)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 13:08:12 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: was not able to update firmware using a
	directory different from the default directory
In-Reply-To: <45CDB4BB-B006-40FF-97B4-DA7626B75C53@icloud.com>
References: <CFE64A6B-0D45-484F-A6FF-DD357BEFC853@icloud.com>
	<CANckpc3ORWbvoFBb7ckh9H7DXSyxSE0iaTELig+pA=aiCRCyaA@mail.gmail.com>
	<9DEEA81F-E2A6-4255-9BBD-A22B24436BB2@elecraft.com>
	<45CDB4BB-B006-40FF-97B4-DA7626B75C53@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <030201d0b04b$d4fb2910$7ef17b30$@elecraft.com>

Hoop:

This has been fixed. Thanks for bringing this to our attention!

FTP directory /K3/firmware at ftp.elecraft.com

06/26/2015 07:55PM        672,608 DTBL0014.HEX
06/26/2015 07:55PM        217,917 HAUX0283.HEX
06/26/2015 07:55PM        223,376 HDSP0283.HEX
06/26/2015 07:55PM            552 K3UtilityVersionInfo.txt
06/24/2015 10:21PM      Directory archive
06/24/2015 10:19PM      Directory beta
06/26/2015 07:55PM        126,385 hfpf0122.hex
06/26/2015 07:55PM        343,652 hfwnotes.rtf
06/26/2015 07:55PM        368,791 hmcu0529.hex
06/26/2015 07:55PM        368,791 hmcu0529b.hex
06/26/2015 07:55PM          4,266 tboot8.hex

73 de Dick, K6KR

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hooper [mailto:k9qjs at icloud.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:52 AM
To: Dick Dievendorff
Cc: elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: was not able to update firmware using a directory different from the default directory

Dick, 

Yes, thanks.   ?tboot.hex? was missing.   I had used the K3 Utility to ?Copy New Files from Elecraft? so I am thinking that the tboot.hex file was not included in the files copied from Elecraft into the new director.   ??? 

Hoop



On Jun 26, 2015, at 10:27 , Dick Dievendorff <dick at elecraft.com> wrote:

There is a tiny boot and dtbl file missing. The list is in k3 utility help under troubleshooting missing files.

In general, I'd advise taking the whole zip file, rather than picking and choosing individual files. The files have non obvious interdependencies, MCU to FPF and DSP, and DSP to tboot and dtbl files.

The DVR firmware is factory supplied, not changeable through the utility.





> On Jun 26, 2015, at 10:18, Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av.guy at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> DVR firmware hasn't changed in long long time. DVRs have come from 
> factory with latest for long long time.
> 
> 73, Guy K2AV
> 
>> On Friday, June 26, 2015, Jim Hooper <k9qjs at icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I got an error message ?One or more required firmware files is missing?
>> when running the K3 Utility, even after I ?Copy new files from Elecraft?.
>> I created a new folder:  /Elecraft/K3 Firmware/K3fw5r29   but I was not
>> able not able to ?Send new firmware to the K3?.
>> 
>> Then I changed to the default folder, got new firmware from the 
>> Elecraft site, and ?Send new firmware to K3? was successful.
>> 
>> Current status is that 5.29 firmware has been successfully loaded using
>> the Default directory.   So no problem here.
>> 
>> But still, why was I not able to use the folder I had selected.   ?
>> 
>> Thanks, 73, Hoop K9QJS   ?
>> 
>> 
>> K3 Utility MAC is 1.14.10.24
>> 
>> Currently installed in K3 is:
>> 
>> MCU 5.14
>> FPF 1.19
>> DSP1 2.83
>> DSP2 N/A
>> DVR 1.03
>> 
>> Available in folder
>> 
>> MCU 5.29
>> FPF 1.22
>> DSP1 2.83
>> DSP2 2.83
>> [Appear to be missing available software for DVR]
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From k4gm at k4gm.com  Fri Jun 26 16:29:47 2015
From: k4gm at k4gm.com (K4GM George)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 16:29:47 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 for sale
Message-ID: <558DB63B.100@k4gm.com>

Factory built K3/100w with auto antenna tuner and two extra filters:  
400hz 8 pole and 2100hz 8 pole.
S/N  2063.  Mint condition and fully working.  Will deliver within a 
reasonable distance or meet you halfway.    $2395 plus you pay 
shipping.   Total recent retail value of comparable unit was 
approximately $3200.  Please reply off list.

George K4GM

From KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com  Fri Jun 26 16:41:06 2015
From: KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 13:41:06 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <558D9406.1501.2B33E35@Gary.ka1j.com>
References: <558D9406.1501.2B33E35@Gary.ka1j.com>
Message-ID: <558DB8E2.8030108@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>

I strongly recommend pool.ntp.org, using the native NTP software on your 
computer.

A list of public time servers is here: 
http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/WebHome

There is a list of public, stratum 1 time servers, but please please do 
not use them directly, unless you run your own time server.

73 -- Lynn

On 6/26/2015 11:03 AM, Gary Smith wrote:
> I've not been able to get my windows
> computer to automatically update for a
> long time now and I've tried everything I
> could uncover via google & forums.

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From KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com  Fri Jun 26 16:50:48 2015
From: KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 13:50:48 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <558DB8E2.8030108@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>
References: <558D9406.1501.2B33E35@Gary.ka1j.com>
	<558DB8E2.8030108@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>
Message-ID: <558DBB28.8030502@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>

Windows before XP didn't have native NTP support.

In XP, right-click on the clock, then choose "internet time" and enter 
2.pool.ntp.org as the server.  Make sure the synchronize box is checked.

I'd expect later versions of Windows to be the same, but they probably 
aren't.

73 -- Lynn

On 6/26/2015 1:41 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
> I strongly recommend pool.ntp.org, using the native NTP software on 
> your computer.
>
> A list of public time servers is here: 
> http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/WebHome
>
> There is a list of public, stratum 1 time servers, but please please 
> do not use them directly, unless you run your own time server.
>
> 73 -- Lynn
>
> On 6/26/2015 11:03 AM, Gary Smith wrote:
>> I've not been able to get my windows
>> computer to automatically update for a
>> long time now and I've tried everything I
>> could uncover via google & forums.
>


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From huntinhmb at coastside.net  Fri Jun 26 17:15:42 2015
From: huntinhmb at coastside.net (Brian Hunt)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:15:42 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <558D9406.1501.2B33E35@Gary.ka1j.com>
References: <558D9406.1501.2B33E35@Gary.ka1j.com>
Message-ID: <558DC0FE.8010505@coastside.net>

i installed Dimension 4 (http://www.thinkman.com/dimension4/) a few 
months ago and it has been great.  I shutdown my Win7 PC when not in 
use.  As soon as it comes back up the time is synced to NIST via any 
number of internet time servers which it rotates through.  The 
correction history shows time is kept to within +/- half second.  I set 
it up to work JT65 modes.  YMMV.

Brian, K0DTJ

On 6/26/2015 11:03 AM, Gary Smith wrote:
> I've not been able to get my windows
> computer to automatically update for a
> long time now and I've tried everything I
> could uncover via google & forums.
>
>


From josh at voodoolab.com  Fri Jun 26 17:22:07 2015
From: josh at voodoolab.com (Josh Fiden)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:22:07 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <558DC0FE.8010505@coastside.net>
References: <558D9406.1501.2B33E35@Gary.ka1j.com>
	<558DC0FE.8010505@coastside.net>
Message-ID: <558DC27F.8020406@voodoolab.com>

Most 6m EME guys I know are using Dimension 4. Works great and in my 
experience MUCH more accurate than the built-in Windows time sync.

73,
Josh W6XU

On 6/26/2015 2:15 PM, Brian Hunt wrote:
> i installed Dimension 4 (http://www.thinkman.com/dimension4/) a few 
> months ago and it has been great.  I shutdown my Win7 PC when not in 
> use.  As soon as it comes back up the time is synced to NIST via any 
> number of internet time servers which it rotates through. The 
> correction history shows time is kept to within +/- half second.  I 
> set it up to work JT65 modes.  YMMV.
>
> Brian, K0DTJ


From skavanagh72 at yahoo.ca  Fri Jun 26 19:19:26 2015
From: skavanagh72 at yahoo.ca (Steve Kavanagh)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 23:19:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 headphone jack pinout ?
Message-ID: <1299165351.602424.1435360766990.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

I think one of my K2s has suffered the dreaded headphone jack failure (no speaker or speaker jack output - headphones?work fine).? To confirm this diagnosis (and perhaps to make mods to prevent it happening again) I'd like to get my hands on the pinout of the headphone jack J2.? I was surprised I couldn't find a link when searching through the list archives.? Has anyone got this info?? Which pins are the speaker switch??73,Steve VE3SMA

From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Fri Jun 26 19:57:08 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 19:57:08 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 headphone jack pinout ?
In-Reply-To: <1299165351.602424.1435360766990.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1299165351.602424.1435360766990.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <558DE6D4.2050703@embarqmail.com>

Steve,

An examination of the headphone jack connections in the K3 schematic 
should answer your question.  The switch that activates/deactivates the 
speaker is completely isolated from the contacts that provide headphone 
audio through resistors R35 and R36.
There is a plastic lever inside the headphone jack which activates that 
switch - and the operating lever for that switch does break occasionally.
Efforts by Elecraft to encourage the jack manufacturer to beef up that 
operating lever have met with failure.

If you wish to effect a temporary fix, open the bottom panel of the K2 
and look at the rearmost 3 solder pads on the headphone jack. Solder a 
wire from the center pad to the solder pad to the right (looking at the 
bottom of the board.  That will make the speaker active at all times.  
If you want to silence the speaker, plug a bare 3.5mm plug into the 
External Speaker jack on the rear panel.

For full instructions on how to replace the headphone jack on your K2, 
look at my instructions to WY3A at 
http://www.qsl.net/wy3a/Replace_K2_Headphone_Jack.htm.  Thanks to Bill 
for posting those instructions.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 6/26/2015 7:19 PM, Steve Kavanagh wrote:
> I think one of my K2s has suffered the dreaded headphone jack failure (no speaker or speaker jack output - headphones work fine).  To confirm this diagnosis (and perhaps to make mods to prevent it happening again) I'd like to get my hands on the pinout of the headphone jack J2.  I was surprised I couldn't find a link when searching through the list archives.  Has anyone got this info?  Which pins are the speaker switch? 73,Steve VE3SMA
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From indians at xsmail.com  Fri Jun 26 20:25:35 2015
From: indians at xsmail.com (ok1rp)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 17:25:35 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] New user - two antenna questions
In-Reply-To: <01cc01d0949c$0035cfc0$00a16f40$@net>
References: <01cc01d0949c$0035cfc0$00a16f40$@net>
Message-ID: <1435364735394-7604368.post@n2.nabble.com>

Peter

always protect your ext. antenna input! I can recommend most known unit for
LB DXers - the Front End Saver designed and developed by KD9SV years ago. 

You do not need going anything to buy. Just put few fast and reliable relays
and transistors together into the small box and you are done. It will cost
you few bucks only. 

Check it here on my blog:
http://ok1rp.blogspot.cz/2015/03/front-end-saver-for-lb-antennas.html?m=1

If you want then I can send You the PCB or you can make your own.

I am using it for several years for all radios incl. K3 and it works like
champ. 

Good luck,
73 - Petr, OK1RP




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From n1nk at cox.net  Fri Jun 26 20:43:42 2015
From: n1nk at cox.net (Jim Spears)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 20:43:42 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] XV144 K3 2m module is sold
Message-ID: <026d01d0b072$51340b70$f39c2250$@cox.net>

Gone, gone, gone.  But not forgotten.

 

Jim/N1NK


From skavanagh72 at yahoo.ca  Fri Jun 26 21:23:50 2015
From: skavanagh72 at yahoo.ca (Steve Kavanagh)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 01:23:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 headphone jack pinout ?
In-Reply-To: <558DE6D4.2050703@embarqmail.com>
References: <558DE6D4.2050703@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <571830329.667013.1435368230438.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks for the quick reply, Don!?When you say "the solder pad to the right " do you mean with the front panel facing me, or with the front panel away from me?? I was thinking I might try something like that - maybe adding a speaker switch.?73,Steve VE3SMA
      From: Don Wilhelm <w3fpr at embarqmail.com>
 To: Steve Kavanagh <skavanagh72 at yahoo.ca>; "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> 
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 7:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 headphone jack pinout ?
   
Steve,

An examination of the headphone jack connections in the K3 schematic 
should answer your question.? The switch that activates/deactivates the 
speaker is completely isolated from the contacts that provide headphone 
audio through resistors R35 and R36.
There is a plastic lever inside the headphone jack which activates that 
switch - and the operating lever for that switch does break occasionally.
Efforts by Elecraft to encourage the jack manufacturer to beef up that 
operating lever have met with failure.

If you wish to effect a temporary fix, open the bottom panel of the K2 
and look at the rearmost 3 solder pads on the headphone jack. Solder a 
wire from the center pad to the solder pad to the right (looking at the 
bottom of the board.? That will make the speaker active at all times.? 
If you want to silence the speaker, plug a bare 3.5mm plug into the 
External Speaker jack on the rear panel.

For full instructions on how to replace the headphone jack on your K2, 
look at my instructions to WY3A at 
http://www.qsl.net/wy3a/Replace_K2_Headphone_Jack.htm.  Thanks to Bill 
for posting those instructions.

73,
Don W3FPR




On 6/26/2015 7:19 PM, Steve Kavanagh wrote:
> I think one of my K2s has suffered the dreaded headphone jack failure (no speaker or speaker jack output - headphones work fine).? To confirm this diagnosis (and perhaps to make mods to prevent it happening again) I'd like to get my hands on the pinout of the headphone jack J2.? I was surprised I couldn't find a link when searching through the list archives.? Has anyone got this info?? Which pins are the speaker switch? 73,Steve VE3SMA
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From g1mhu at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 26 21:54:36 2015
From: g1mhu at hotmail.com (Robin Moseley)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 02:54:36 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <558DC27F.8020406@voodoolab.com>
References: <558D9406.1501.2B33E35@Gary.ka1j.com><558DC0FE.8010505@coastside.net>
	<558DC27F.8020406@voodoolab.com>
Message-ID: <DUB112-DS17172E3BF660436E14098EE9AC0@phx.gbl>

nope   most EME stations have moved to 
https://www.meinbergglobal.com/english/sw/ntp.htm#ntp_nt_stable, installed 
as a service.

Robin G1MHU



-----Original Message----- 
From: Josh Fiden
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:22 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

Most 6m EME guys I know are using Dimension 4. Works great and in my
experience MUCH more accurate than the built-in Windows time sync.

73,
Josh W6XU

.com 


From josh at voodoolab.com  Fri Jun 26 22:15:44 2015
From: josh at voodoolab.com (Josh Fiden)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 19:15:44 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <DUB112-DS17172E3BF660436E14098EE9AC0@phx.gbl>
References: <558D9406.1501.2B33E35@Gary.ka1j.com><558DC0FE.8010505@coastside.net>
	<558DC27F.8020406@voodoolab.com>
	<DUB112-DS17172E3BF660436E14098EE9AC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <558E0750.7080206@voodoolab.com>

I see you're right!  I was behind the times... hi

Thanks for the updated info.

73,
Josh W6XU

On 6/26/2015 6:54 PM, Robin Moseley wrote:
> nope   most EME stations have moved to 
> https://www.meinbergglobal.com/english/sw/ntp.htm#ntp_nt_stable, 
> installed as a service.
>
> Robin G1MHU
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Josh Fiden
> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:22 PM
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
>
> Most 6m EME guys I know are using Dimension 4. Works great and in my
> experience MUCH more accurate than the built-in Windows time sync.
>
> 73,
> Josh W6XU
>
> .com


From don at w3fpr.com  Fri Jun 26 22:25:48 2015
From: don at w3fpr.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 22:25:48 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 headphone jack pinout ?
In-Reply-To: <571830329.667013.1435368230438.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <558DE6D4.2050703@embarqmail.com>
	<571830329.667013.1435368230438.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <558E09AC.9010905@w3fpr.com>

Steve, with the front panel facing you and the K2 "on its back".

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/26/2015 9:23 PM, Steve Kavanagh wrote:
> Thanks for the quick reply, Don! When you say "the solder pad to the right " do you mean with the front panel facing me, or with the front panel away from me?  I was thinking I might try something like that - maybe adding a speaker switch. 73,Steve VE3SMA
>        From: Don Wilhelm <w3fpr at embarqmail.com>
>   To: Steve Kavanagh <skavanagh72 at yahoo.ca>; "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>   Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 7:57 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 headphone jack pinout ?
>     
> Steve,
>
> An examination of the headphone jack connections in the K3 schematic
> should answer your question.  The switch that activates/deactivates the
> speaker is completely isolated from the contacts that provide headphone
> audio through resistors R35 and R36.
> There is a plastic lever inside the headphone jack which activates that
> switch - and the operating lever for that switch does break occasionally.
> Efforts by Elecraft to encourage the jack manufacturer to beef up that
> operating lever have met with failure.
>
> If you wish to effect a temporary fix, open the bottom panel of the K2
> and look at the rearmost 3 solder pads on the headphone jack. Solder a
> wire from the center pad to the solder pad to the right (looking at the
> bottom of the board.  That will make the speaker active at all times.
> If you want to silence the speaker, plug a bare 3.5mm plug into the
> External Speaker jack on the rear panel.
>
> For full instructions on how to replace the headphone jack on your K2,
> look at my instructions to WY3A at
> http://www.qsl.net/wy3a/Replace_K2_Headphone_Jack.htm.  Thanks to Bill
> for posting those instructions.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
>
>
> On 6/26/2015 7:19 PM, Steve Kavanagh wrote:
>> I think one of my K2s has suffered the dreaded headphone jack failure (no speaker or speaker jack output - headphones work fine).  To confirm this diagnosis (and perhaps to make mods to prevent it happening again) I'd like to get my hands on the pinout of the headphone jack J2.  I was surprised I couldn't find a link when searching through the list archives.  Has anyone got this info?  Which pins are the speaker switch? 73,Steve VE3SMA
>> ______________________________________________________________
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From kevinr at coho.net  Fri Jun 26 23:49:37 2015
From: kevinr at coho.net (kevinr at coho.net)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 20:49:37 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Field Day message
Message-ID: <558E1D51.3000105@coho.net>

Good Evening,
     Since this weekend will have amateurs out fighting gloom, 
propagation, wind, wet, warm food which should have been cold, cold food 
which should have been hot, mosquitoes, bears, moose, elk, bison, hungry 
coyotes, inexperienced operators, and sundry other afflictions there 
will be no Elecraft CW Net.  Enjoy the quest; the sun has fed a great 
number of ions into the mix with even more on the way.  Hopefully, you 
will each have a safe, enjoyable, and edifying field day.
    73,
       Kevin.  KD5ONS


From joel.b.black at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 07:33:32 2015
From: joel.b.black at gmail.com (Joel Black)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 06:33:32 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] FW 5.29 TX Calibration Failed
Message-ID: <8A66C5C8-91F1-4320-B96E-ABFF560E3D69@gmail.com>

I?m not operating Field Day this year so this is not a Field Day emergency but I?d still like to get it resolved. I?ll ask here before I call Elecraft next week.

I upgraded from FW 5.01 to 5.29 this morning. I read in the release notes that if installing FW 5.10 or higher, you should perform the 50 W Tx calibration. Well, I did, about three times. It failed all three times.

The first time it failed, I got ?ERR TXG? message. This was at both 5 W and 50 W. I shut down the transceiver, turn the p/s off, waited about 10 seconds and tried again.

The second and third times (no transceiver reboot between these tries), I just got a calibration failed from the K3 Utility. This was on both 5 W and 50 W.

My load is connected to ANT1, but I noticed the utility switching ANT ports during the process.

Hmm? I may try this on my Windows VM.

Until Elecraft gets back in and rests a bit from Field Day, would I be safe to just reload what I had and try to calibrate with *that* FW if the Windows version of the utility doesn?t fix it?

73,
Joel - W4JBB

From joel.b.black at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 07:52:17 2015
From: joel.b.black at gmail.com (Joel Black)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 06:52:17 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] FW 5.29 TX Calibration Failed [SOLVED]
In-Reply-To: <8A66C5C8-91F1-4320-B96E-ABFF560E3D69@gmail.com>
References: <8A66C5C8-91F1-4320-B96E-ABFF560E3D69@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8ADDCC08-E92F-4C54-9B2E-EC7A146BFEAB@gmail.com>

Please disregard my previous email.

I tried the 50 W calibration on my Windows VM and it worked fine.

I?m not sure why the Mac Utility failed (I?m running the latest Mac Utility version), but the Windows version (latest) worked fine.

Thanks,
Joel - W4JBB

> On Jun 27, 2015, at 6:33 AM, Joel Black <joel.b.black at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I?m not operating Field Day this year so this is not a Field Day emergency but I?d still like to get it resolved. I?ll ask here before I call Elecraft next week.
> 
> I upgraded from FW 5.01 to 5.29 this morning. I read in the release notes that if installing FW 5.10 or higher, you should perform the 50 W Tx calibration. Well, I did, about three times. It failed all three times.
> 
> The first time it failed, I got ?ERR TXG? message. This was at both 5 W and 50 W. I shut down the transceiver, turn the p/s off, waited about 10 seconds and tried again.
> 
> The second and third times (no transceiver reboot between these tries), I just got a calibration failed from the K3 Utility. This was on both 5 W and 50 W.
> 
> My load is connected to ANT1, but I noticed the utility switching ANT ports during the process.
> 
> Hmm? I may try this on my Windows VM.
> 
> Until Elecraft gets back in and rests a bit from Field Day, would I be safe to just reload what I had and try to calibrate with *that* FW if the Windows version of the utility doesn?t fix it?
> 
> 73,
> Joel - W4JBB


From forums at david-woolley.me.uk  Sat Jun 27 09:00:22 2015
From: forums at david-woolley.me.uk (David Woolley)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:00:22 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <558DC27F.8020406@voodoolab.com>
References: <558D9406.1501.2B33E35@Gary.ka1j.com>	<558DC0FE.8010505@coastside.net>
	<558DC27F.8020406@voodoolab.com>
Message-ID: <558E9E66.7050807@david-woolley.me.uk>

Whilst Windows is not good for accurate time synchronisation using any 
tool, the current versions of w32time, the native Windows NTP support, 
can be configured 
<https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc773263%28v=ws.10%29.aspx#w2k3tr_times_tools_uhlp> 
to be much better than the out of the box configuration.  In particular 
you must make sure that you specify servers without the special poll 
interval flag.

t can be set to behave pretty much like the reference implementation of 
version 3 NTP.  Windows ports of the reference implementation of version 
4 NTP software, that the servers you use are likely to be using, are 
available at no charge, and, for example, Meinberg supply a free 
installer for it.  Whilst another branch of this thread (not yet on the 
digest) tends to perpetuate the misunderstanding that this was written 
by Meinberg, that is not true.  It is actually the open source reference 
implementation, as used on many and available for all Linux systems (but 
with some build options set for Windows).  Meinberg have simply added a 
Windows installer.

Properly tuned I'd expect 95 percentile accuracy as about 20ms with 
w32time, maybe 10ms with the reference implementation and better than 
1ms with Linux.

Out of the box w32time polls at very long intervals (7 days for 
standalone installations) and is designed to keep the time accurate to 
within the few seconds needed for Kerberos authentication on Windows 
networks, but the current software can be tuned for poll rates of 
seconds, use multiple servers and interpolate with frequency compensation.

The continued existence of software like Dimenion 4 and Tardis owes more 
to marketing than to being better solutions.  (Microsoft are not 
interested in Windows client systems being used outside of a Windows 
network, so don't advertise the full capabilities of w32time.)

Incidentally, the primary author of the NTP protocol specification and 
its reference implementation is W3HCF.

-- 
David Woolley
Owner K2 06123

On 26/06/15 22:22, Josh Fiden wrote:
> Most 6m EME guys I know are using Dimension 4. Works great and in my
> experience MUCH more accurate than the built-in Windows time sync.


From evetsmd at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 10:03:20 2015
From: evetsmd at gmail.com (evetsmd)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 10:03:20 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Filter Offset
Message-ID: <CAOkuFgm1bjOjRFbqbeQ90PV5B+2b4KUO2FYKzn2s9+zubbGqgg@mail.gmail.com>

I have a K3 SN 6001, I see reference to a filter offset that's related to
each of the filters
I purchased with the radio......where do I find that filter offset
info......

Any help appreciated

73

From mteberle at mchsi.com  Sat Jun 27 10:26:55 2015
From: mteberle at mchsi.com (Michael Eberle)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 09:26:55 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Filter Offset
In-Reply-To: <CAOkuFgm1bjOjRFbqbeQ90PV5B+2b4KUO2FYKzn2s9+zubbGqgg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOkuFgm1bjOjRFbqbeQ90PV5B+2b4KUO2FYKzn2s9+zubbGqgg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <558EB2AF.6010400@mchsi.com>


Hold the CONFIG button down to enter the menu.  Then use the VFO B knob 
to locate the FLx FRQ.  So for filter 1 it will show FL1 FRQ and you can 
use the VFO A knob to change the value of the offset if desired.  Tap 
the XFIL key select filters 2 - 5.

Page 46 of the manual gets into more detail than I can here.  If you 
don't have a copy of the manual you can download it from the Elecraft 
website here:

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740107%20K3%20Owner's%20man%20D10sm.pdf

Also note that if you have 8 pole filters there should be no offset (set 
it to 0).  The offset only applies to 5 pole filters. Hope this helps.

Mike
KI0HA

On 6/27/2015 9:03 AM, evetsmd wrote:
> I have a K3 SN 6001, I see reference to a filter offset that's related to
> each of the filters
> I purchased with the radio......where do I find that filter offset
> info......
>
>


From dick at elecraft.com  Sat Jun 27 10:31:02 2015
From: dick at elecraft.com (Dick Dievendorff)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 07:31:02 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Filter Offset
In-Reply-To: <CAOkuFgm1bjOjRFbqbeQ90PV5B+2b4KUO2FYKzn2s9+zubbGqgg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOkuFgm1bjOjRFbqbeQ90PV5B+2b4KUO2FYKzn2s9+zubbGqgg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006e01d0b0e5$e4e4e5b0$aeaeb110$@elecraft.com>

Five pole filters (KFL3A-500 and KFL3A-2.7K) should have a label physically
attached to the filter that shows its offset.  

If it's a factory-built radio, filter offsets may be printed on a label
stuck to the underside of the top cover.

Eight pole filters should use an offset of zero.

73 de Dick, K6KR


-----Original Message-----
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evetsmd
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 7:03 AM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Filter Offset

I have a K3 SN 6001, I see reference to a filter offset that's related to
each of the filters I purchased with the radio......where do I find that
filter offset info......

Any help appreciated

73
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From bsusb at k5dkz.com  Sat Jun 27 12:03:06 2015
From: bsusb at k5dkz.com (bs usb)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 10:03:06 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100 PROBLEMS
Message-ID: <558EC93A.5090307@k5dkz.com>

I have a KX3 (serial #7551).  I just bought a KXPA100 (serial #1566).

The amp works fine when configured in basic cable setup.  My NYE MB-V-A 
wattmeter indicates 100 watts out to the antenna.

It does not work with the KXPACBL setup.

Both units have the current firmware.

KX3 has tune=nor, txeq=reset, cmp=0, baud rate on both units is the 
same, the amp does not have the optional atu, ant2 has been disabled in 
the configuration since it does not exist.

The amp does not power up when PA MODE = ON is selected in the KX3 
menu.  PA MODE = ON is displayed for a few seconds then reverts back to 
PA MODE = OFF.

The little box with the CAT cable connector has three holes in it,  Two 
of the holes are sealed.  The third hole, located next to the RCA 
connector is open.

I am guessing the problem is either a bad cable or, more likely, 
operator error.  Perhaps a menu term has been set improperly.

One more symptom, If I turn on the amp manually after the PA MODE = ON 
goes to PA MODE = OFF,  both the ON and TX leds come on. When that 
happens I can still hear signals from the KX3 speaker but at reduced volume.

-- 
K5DKZ


From skavanagh72 at yahoo.ca  Sat Jun 27 11:04:48 2015
From: skavanagh72 at yahoo.ca (Steve Kavanagh)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 15:04:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 headphone jack pinout ?
In-Reply-To: <558E09AC.9010905@w3fpr.com>
References: <558E09AC.9010905@w3fpr.com>
Message-ID: <667899800.843678.1435417488916.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks, Don. Shorting those two pads together with a screwdriver brought the speaker back to life, confirming the "standard" failure.? Now I can decide what to do about it!?73,Steve VE3SMA??   From: Don Wilhelm <don at w3fpr.com>
 To: Steve Kavanagh <skavanagh72 at yahoo.ca>; "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> 
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 headphone jack pinout ?
? 
Steve, with the front panel facing you and the K2 "on its back".

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/26/2015 9:23 PM, Steve Kavanagh wrote:
> Thanks for the quick reply, Don! When you say "the solder pad to the right " do you mean with the front panel facing me, or with the front panel away from me?? I was thinking I might try something like that - maybe adding a speaker switch. 73,Steve VE3SMA
>? ? ? ? From: Don Wilhelm <w3fpr at embarqmail.com>
>? To: Steve Kavanagh <skavanagh72 at yahoo.ca>; "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>? Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 7:57 PM
>? Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 headphone jack pinout ?
>? ? 
> Steve,
>
> An examination of the headphone jack connections in the K3 schematic
> should answer your question.? The switch that activates/deactivates the
> speaker is completely isolated from the contacts that provide headphone
> audio through resistors R35 and R36.
> There is a plastic lever inside the headphone jack which activates that
> switch - and the operating lever for that switch does break occasionally.
> Efforts by Elecraft to encourage the jack manufacturer to beef up that
> operating lever have met with failure.
>
> If you wish to effect a temporary fix, open the bottom panel of the K2
> and look at the rearmost 3 solder pads on the headphone jack. Solder a
> wire from the center pad to the solder pad to the right (looking at the
> bottom of the board.? That will make the speaker active at all times.
> If you want to silence the speaker, plug a bare 3.5mm plug into the
> External Speaker jack on the rear panel.
>
> For full instructions on how to replace the headphone jack on your K2,
> look at my instructions to WY3A at
> http://www.qsl.net/wy3a/Replace_K2_Headphone_Jack.htm.  Thanks to Bill
> for posting those instructions.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
>
>
> On 6/26/2015 7:19 PM, Steve Kavanagh wrote:
>> I think one of my K2s has suffered the dreaded headphone jack failure (no speaker or speaker jack output - headphones work fine).? To confirm this diagnosis (and perhaps to make mods to prevent it happening again) I'd like to get my hands on the pinout of the headphone jack J2.? I was surprised I couldn't find a link when searching through the list archives.? Has anyone got this info?? Which pins are the speaker switch? 73,Steve VE3SMA
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From kevin at ve3syb.ca  Sat Jun 27 11:52:39 2015
From: kevin at ve3syb.ca (Kevin Cozens)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 11:52:39 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <558D9406.1501.2B33E35@Gary.ka1j.com>
References: <558D9406.1501.2B33E35@Gary.ka1j.com>
Message-ID: <558EC6C7.5010302@ve3syb.ca>

On 15-06-26 02:03 PM, Gary Smith wrote:
> I've not been able to get my windows
> computer to automatically update for a
> long time now and I've tried everything I
> could uncover via google & forums.
>
> Since I use the computer for logging and
> contesting, having the real time on my
> computer is important so I've had to tune
> to WWV and manually sync the minutes and
> seconds and doing this repeatedly is a PIT
> kiester.

I used to use NIST time servers to sync my computers under both Linux and 
Windows. At one point they changed the URL's for the servers so I had to 
find the new names. I did a quick google search and found the page with the 
list of NIST servers. It can be found at:
     http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi

It lists all the servers and tells you which ones you can use and which ones 
are busy.

-- 
Cheers!

Kevin.

http://www.ve3syb.ca/           |"Nerds make the shiny things that distract
Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172      | the mouth-breathers, and that's why we're
                                 | powerful!"
#include <disclaimer/favourite> |             --Chris Hardwick

From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Sat Jun 27 12:35:40 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (John C. Burkholder via Elecraft)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 12:35:40 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] For Sale K3 Factory Assembled  S/N 2918
In-Reply-To: <D63F319A-BBB1-432A-9465-581DD6A664B1@yahoo.com>
References: <D63F319A-BBB1-432A-9465-581DD6A664B1@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0A5BB078-F84E-4166-8AC8-BDDED2A8436D@yahoo.com>

For Sale K3 Factory Assembled  S/N 2918

 

K3/100

KAT3 ATU

KXF3A  Ver. B

KTCS03-1  High stability Ref. Osc

KF3A 2.8kHZ 8pole filter

KFL3A 250HZ 8pole filter

KFL3A 6kHZ 8pole filter (required for general coverage AM)

 

This radio has just been returned from the factory, sent with instructions to ?make it like new?.  The worksheet returned with the radio states that it ?meets of exceeds all factory specifications.?

 

The factory performed the following upgrades:

Remote i/o board

K312MDKT

KSYN2A (upgrade to new syn board)

Lowfer mods to KBPF3 and RF boards

 

As-new appearance from non-smoking environment.

 

Sell for $2800 including insured shipping to CONUS only.

 

Please reply offline.

Tnx,

John

WA8JCB

 

From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Sat Jun 27 14:00:08 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Harry Yingst via Elecraft)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 18:00:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <558EC6C7.5010302@ve3syb.ca>
References: <558EC6C7.5010302@ve3syb.ca>
Message-ID: <1021550752.922940.1435428008900.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

I used a Raspberry Pi and made a NTP server to hook to my GPSDO

I didn't really need one but I had the GPSDO with the NMEA and PPS output and a spare Raspberry Pi


     

   

From kissov at me.com  Sat Jun 27 14:00:00 2015
From: kissov at me.com (Richard Thorpe)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 15:00:00 -0300
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Question
Message-ID: <AB5E0D63-A1EB-45E7-A4F6-0ADEB8485ACE@me.com>

I just purchased a PX3 for my KX3 and KPA100 for my cottage in Canada.  I connected it as per instructions and it works well.  I have one issue, when I change bands on the KX3 the display on the PX3 flickers when the band is tuned.  The only way to stop the flickering  is to cycle the PX3 off the on, the flicker goes away until I change bands again.  I will call Elecraft next week but I wondered if I was overlooking something  and anyone out there knows how to resolve the issue.  Both the KX3 and the PX3 are fed voltage from the KXPA100.  Thank you.

K6CG

From catherine.james at att.net  Sat Jun 27 14:10:32 2015
From: catherine.james at att.net (Catherine James)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 11:10:32 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA100 U6 voltage issue
Message-ID: <1435428632.82694.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I recently began building a just-purchased KPA100 kit for my K2 #5191. ?All was well until I reached the voltage checkpoints on page 26.

U5 pin 1 is 0.8 volts (not 0 to 0.1)

U5 pin 7 is 0.9 V (not 0 to 0.1)

U6 pin 6 is 17 volts (not 0 to 0.5)


I am much more concerned about U6, but perhaps the U5 voltages give you more information.


The no pa pa message comes up as expected, and the current indicated on the k2 display is less than 400 ma.


The keys are in the correct places on the ribbon cable. Nothing has ever been plugged into the DB9 port, so this is not the issue where a standard serial cable damages the kpa100 through the aux port non-standard wiring.


The K2 appears to work fine with the partially built KPA100 disconnected. Voltages on D9 of the K2 RF board (my proxy for V RFDET) are much lower than 17 volts (kpa100 not connected) so the high voltage appears to come from the KPA100, not the K2.


I have the KSB2 installed, but haven't explored that its voltages, and haven't tested whether it still works following the "17 volt incident".


I don't see any obvious solder bridges on the KPA100.


Where would voltages near 17 volts normally be found on the KPA100 board?


Thoughts on next steps?


Cathy

N5WVR

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android


From esteptony at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 15:31:06 2015
From: esteptony at gmail.com (Tony Estep)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:31:06 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <1021550752.922940.1435428008900.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <558EC6C7.5010302@ve3syb.ca>
	<1021550752.922940.1435428008900.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CACHwrmNS_uiJ6vbLdFg-e8QOhTWGNREcFE3_3DUyT0eicrSinw@mail.gmail.com>

I think the main point is that for the last several versions of Windows you
haven't needed to, and probably shouldn't, use a 3rd party program to sync
time. You can set up a regular sync with a few clicks from the home screen.
If your machine's clock needs more frequent sync, one way to set the
interval is described in the instructions found here:

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/89800-internet-time-synchronization-update-interval.html

Tony KT0NY


On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft <
elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> I used a Raspberry Pi and made a NTP server to hook to my GPSDO
>
> I didn't really need one but I had the GPSDO with the NMEA and PPS output
> and a spare Raspberry Pi
>
>
>
>
>
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From w4as at bellsouth.net  Sat Jun 27 16:37:16 2015
From: w4as at bellsouth.net (Sebastian)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:37:16 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <CACHwrmNS_uiJ6vbLdFg-e8QOhTWGNREcFE3_3DUyT0eicrSinw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <558EC6C7.5010302@ve3syb.ca>
	<1021550752.922940.1435428008900.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CACHwrmNS_uiJ6vbLdFg-e8QOhTWGNREcFE3_3DUyT0eicrSinw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0E3F8F20-496C-430C-A1A6-2261B9DA6D25@bellsouth.net>

Having an accurate clock if you are using, or plan to use, the WSJT digital modes with Windows, is highly recommended.

The average user shouldn?t be making changes to the registry, and there is no reason why you shouldn?t use a third party utility program to have an accurate clock; even if you aren?t using digital modes.



73 de Sebastian, W4AS

> On Jun 27, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Tony Estep <esteptony at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I think the main point is that for the last several versions of Windows you
> haven't needed to, and probably shouldn't, use a 3rd party program to sync
> time. You can set up a regular sync with a few clicks from the home screen.
> If your machine's clock needs more frequent sync, one way to set the
> interval is described in the instructions found here:
> 
> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/89800-internet-time-synchronization-update-interval.html
> 
> Tony KT0NY
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft <
> elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
>> I used a Raspberry Pi and made a NTP server to hook to my GPSDO
>> 
>> I didn't really need one but I had the GPSDO with the NMEA and PPS output
>> and a spare Raspberry Pi


From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Sat Jun 27 17:14:52 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 17:14:52 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA100 U6 voltage issue
In-Reply-To: <1435428632.82694.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1435428632.82694.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <558F124C.6000805@embarqmail.com>

Cathy,

Are you saying that with the KPA100 connected to the base K2, you have 
17 volts on U6 pin 6, but with it still connected to the base K2, you 
have a lower voltage at RF board D9?  Check the voltage at both ends of 
RF board R66 -  If the highest voltage there does not match the reading 
at KPA100 U6 pin 6, there is a discontinuity somewhere.
I can't think of any way you could actually have 17 volts on U6 pin 6 - 
maybe 12 volts or even up to 15, but that is a strange voltage.
During receive that voltage should be very close to zero.
First make certain all the pins on U6 are soldered.
Then measure U6 pin 7 and pin 8.  Both should be at 5 volts.
If you really have 17 volts (actually anything more than 5 volts) at U6 
pin 6, there is no way that U6 could be generating that voltage. It has 
to be coming from a source outside U6 (although the 17 volts may have 
damaged U6).

Check the KPA100 carefully with a magnifier for solder bridges, 
especially on the pins of P1 (12CTRL is adjacent to VRFDET).
Check the orientation of diodes D1 thru D8 - especially D6 - all the 
cathodes should point in the same direction.

Do you have the ribbon cable oriented in the proper direction - from P1, 
the cable should extend over the front edge of the KPA100 - it it is the 
other way around, swap the ends of the cable with each other.

If you have the KSB2 option or the K60XV option installed, try removing 
both those options and check again.  Other than the MCU and D9 in the 
base K2, those are the only places you will find the VRFDET line.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/27/2015 2:10 PM, Catherine James wrote:
> I recently began building a just-purchased KPA100 kit for my K2 #5191.  All was well until I reached the voltage checkpoints on page 26.
>
> U5 pin 1 is 0.8 volts (not 0 to 0.1)
> U5 pin 7 is 0.9 V (not 0 to 0.1)
> U6 pin 6 is 17 volts (not 0 to 0.5)
> I am much more concerned about U6, but perhaps the U5 voltages give you more information.
>
> The K2 appears to work fine with the partially built KPA100 disconnected. Voltages on D9 of the K2 RF board (my proxy for V RFDET) are much lower than 17 volts (kpa100 not connected) so the high voltage appears to come from the KPA100, not the K2.
>
> I have the KSB2 installed, but haven't explored that its voltages, and haven't tested whether it still works following the "17 volt incident".
>
> I don't see any obvious solder bridges on the KPA100.
>
> Where would voltages near 17 volts normally be found on the KPA100 board?
>


From roncerra at earthlink.net  Sat Jun 27 17:43:10 2015
From: roncerra at earthlink.net (KM4VX)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:43:10 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT K2 FOR SALE
Message-ID: <1435441390697-7604393.post@n2.nabble.com>

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From Gary at ka1j.com  Sat Jun 27 18:17:35 2015
From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 18:17:35 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <CACHwrmNS_uiJ6vbLdFg-e8QOhTWGNREcFE3_3DUyT0eicrSinw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <558EC6C7.5010302@ve3syb.ca>,
	<1021550752.922940.1435428008900.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>,
	<CACHwrmNS_uiJ6vbLdFg-e8QOhTWGNREcFE3_3DUyT0eicrSinw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <558F20FF.6014.1406D0A@Gary.ka1j.com>

I've gotten several emails where some believe that using the built-in 
windows internet time update is my easiest solution. Unfortunately, 
it's not; I can not update unless I use a 3rd party program. Here is 
the windows error message I get 100% of the time I try to use windows 
built-in update facility:

http://doctorgary.net/time.jpg

It will not update on its own nor when I try to force an internet 
time correction and this has been a problem for a very long time; 
using an outside synchronizing solution is my only remedy. I can't 
help but assume others have the same problem & want accurate time on 
their computer so I offered the solution I found and there have been 
several alternatives suggested. Whichever works accurately is the 
solution to getting the right time on the computer.

Back to Field day :D

73,

Gary
KA1J


> I think the main point is that for the last several versions of Windows you
> haven't needed to, and probably shouldn't, use a 3rd party program to sync
> time. You can set up a regular sync with a few clicks from the home screen.
> If your machine's clock needs more frequent sync, one way to set the
> interval is described in the instructions found here:
> 
> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/89800-internet-time-synchronization-update-interval.html
> 
> Tony KT0NY
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft <
> elecraft at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> > I used a Raspberry Pi and made a NTP server to hook to my GPSDO
> >
> > I didn't really need one but I had the GPSDO with the NMEA and PPS output
> > and a spare Raspberry Pi
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From k2asp at kanafi.org  Sat Jun 27 18:31:10 2015
From: k2asp at kanafi.org (Phil Kane)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 15:31:10 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <558F20FF.6014.1406D0A@Gary.ka1j.com>
References: <558EC6C7.5010302@ve3syb.ca>
	<1021550752.922940.1435428008900.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CACHwrmNS_uiJ6vbLdFg-e8QOhTWGNREcFE3_3DUyT0eicrSinw@mail.gmail.com>
	<558F20FF.6014.1406D0A@Gary.ka1j.com>
Message-ID: <558F242E.8080905@kanafi.org>

On 6/27/2015 3:17 PM, Gary Smith wrote:
> Here is 
> the windows error message I get 100% of the time I try to use windows 
> built-in update facility:
> 
> http://doctorgary.net/time.jpg
> 
> It will not update on its own nor when I try to force an internet 
> time correction and this has been T problem for a very long time; 

That's because the server that you selected is not available (any more).
 There is a list of available NIST servers at:
http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi

Myself, I use  tick.nobs.navy.mil with no problems at all.  It's at the
US Naval Observatory and is one of the group used to determine NIST
time.  My first engineering job was at the US Naval  Research Laboratory
so I have a (misplaced ?) loyalty to NObs !  :)

Happy Hamming.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

>From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon

From KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com  Sat Jun 27 19:02:11 2015
From: KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:02:11 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <558F20FF.6014.1406D0A@Gary.ka1j.com>
References: <558EC6C7.5010302@ve3syb.ca>,
	<1021550752.922940.1435428008900.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>,
	<CACHwrmNS_uiJ6vbLdFg-e8QOhTWGNREcFE3_3DUyT0eicrSinw@mail.gmail.com>
	<558F20FF.6014.1406D0A@Gary.ka1j.com>
Message-ID: <558F2B73.1020002@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>

I mentioned POOL.NTP.ORG earlier.

I don't care what name you use for the server, sooner or later it will 
change, or go away.

The "pool" has a whole bunch of time servers, run by different 
organizations.  The people who run them can add them to the pool, or 
remove them from the pool when they're about to be shut down.

There are a lot of time servers, run by a lot of different people, and 
the traffic is spread across them using round-robin DNS so no one server 
is overloaded.

Just type "1.pool.ntp.org" where it currently says "time-b.nist.gov" and 
you'll have a very robust set of time servers to rely on -- not just one 
that may be turned off due to budgetary limitations.

73 -- Lynn

On 6/27/2015 3:17 PM, Gary Smith wrote:
> I've gotten several emails where some believe that using the built-in
> windows internet time update is my easiest solution. Unfortunately,
> it's not; I can not update unless I use a 3rd party program. Here is
> the windows error message I get 100% of the time I try to use windows
> built-in update facility:
>
> http://doctorgary.net/time.jpg
>
> It will not update on its own nor when I try to force an internet
> time correction and this has been a problem for a very long time;
> using an outside synchronizing solution is my only remedy. I can't
> help but assume others have the same problem & want accurate time on
> their computer so I offered the solution I found and there have been
> several alternatives suggested. Whichever works accurately is the
> solution to getting the right time on the computer.
>
> Back to Field day :D
>
> 73,
>
> Gary
> KA1J

From KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com  Sat Jun 27 19:08:25 2015
From: KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:08:25 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <558F2B73.1020002@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>
References: <558EC6C7.5010302@ve3syb.ca>,
	<1021550752.922940.1435428008900.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>,
	<CACHwrmNS_uiJ6vbLdFg-e8QOhTWGNREcFE3_3DUyT0eicrSinw@mail.gmail.com>	<558F20FF.6014.1406D0A@Gary.ka1j.com>
	<558F2B73.1020002@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>
Message-ID: <558F2CE9.6030307@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>

P.S. this applies to any NTP client on any OS, not just the built-in 
Windows time client.

On 6/27/2015 4:02 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
> Just type "1.pool.ntp.org" where it currently says "time-b.nist.gov" 
> and you'll have a very robust set of time servers to rely on -- not 
> just one that may be turned off due to budgetary limitations. 


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From lists at subich.com  Sat Jun 27 19:29:10 2015
From: lists at subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 19:29:10 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <558F242E.8080905@kanafi.org>
References: <558EC6C7.5010302@ve3syb.ca>
	<1021550752.922940.1435428008900.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CACHwrmNS_uiJ6vbLdFg-e8QOhTWGNREcFE3_3DUyT0eicrSinw@mail.gmail.com>
	<558F20FF.6014.1406D0A@Gary.ka1j.com> <558F242E.8080905@kanafi.org>
Message-ID: <558F31C6.20201@subich.com>


> That's because the server that you selected is not available (any
 > more).  There is a list of available NIST servers at:
 > http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi

If you follow the rules and use - time.nist.gov - your request will
be distributed to any available service.  "time.nist.gov" is the pool
address.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-06-27 6:31 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
> On 6/27/2015 3:17 PM, Gary Smith wrote:
>> Here is
>> the windows error message I get 100% of the time I try to use windows
>> built-in update facility:
>>
>> http://doctorgary.net/time.jpg
>>
>> It will not update on its own nor when I try to force an internet
>> time correction and this has been T problem for a very long time;
>
> That's because the server that you selected is not available (any more).
>   There is a list of available NIST servers at:
> http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi
>
> Myself, I use  tick.nobs.navy.mil with no problems at all.  It's at the
> US Naval Observatory and is one of the group used to determine NIST
> time.  My first engineering job was at the US Naval  Research Laboratory
> so I have a (misplaced ?) loyalty to NObs !  :)
>
> Happy Hamming.
>
> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
>
>>From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
> Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
> ______________________________________________________________
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From wa8jxm at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 19:32:25 2015
From: wa8jxm at gmail.com (WA8JXM)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 19:32:25 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <558F2CE9.6030307@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>
References: <558EC6C7.5010302@ve3syb.ca>,
	<1021550752.922940.1435428008900.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>,
	<CACHwrmNS_uiJ6vbLdFg-e8QOhTWGNREcFE3_3DUyT0eicrSinw@mail.gmail.com>	<558F20FF.6014.1406D0A@Gary.ka1j.com>	<558F2B73.1020002@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>
	<558F2CE9.6030307@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>
Message-ID: <558F3289.2050209@gmail.com>

Any suggestions to handle the delay caused by satellite internet access 
(typical 800 ms ping time)?




From KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com  Sat Jun 27 20:00:22 2015
From: KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 17:00:22 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <558F3289.2050209@gmail.com>
References: <558EC6C7.5010302@ve3syb.ca>,
	<1021550752.922940.1435428008900.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>,
	<CACHwrmNS_uiJ6vbLdFg-e8QOhTWGNREcFE3_3DUyT0eicrSinw@mail.gmail.com>	<558F20FF.6014.1406D0A@Gary.ka1j.com>	<558F2B73.1020002@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>	<558F2CE9.6030307@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>
	<558F3289.2050209@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <558F3916.3050504@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>

GPS time is extremely accurate.  If you have multiple computers, you can 
run your own NTP server synced to GPS.

On 6/27/2015 4:32 PM, WA8JXM wrote:
> Any suggestions to handle the delay caused by satellite internet 
> access (typical 800 ms ping time)?

From wunder at wunderwood.org  Sat Jun 27 20:06:06 2015
From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 17:06:06 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <558F3289.2050209@gmail.com>
References: <558EC6C7.5010302@ve3syb.ca>,
	<1021550752.922940.1435428008900.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>,
	<CACHwrmNS_uiJ6vbLdFg-e8QOhTWGNREcFE3_3DUyT0eicrSinw@mail.gmail.com>	<558F20FF.6014.1406D0A@Gary.ka1j.com>	<558F2B73.1020002@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>
	<558F2CE9.6030307@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>
	<558F3289.2050209@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B802E4F-1F27-4C21-B3AC-1423A8178251@wunderwood.org>

This is exactly what NTP was designed to handle, synchronizing clocks with long latency. If the variance is small, NTP can sync clocks very accurately.

wunder
K6WRU
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

On Jun 27, 2015, at 4:32 PM, WA8JXM <wa8jxm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Any suggestions to handle the delay caused by satellite internet access (typical 800 ms ping time)?
> 
> 
> 
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From wa8jxm at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 21:22:50 2015
From: wa8jxm at gmail.com (WA8JXM)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 21:22:50 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <4B802E4F-1F27-4C21-B3AC-1423A8178251@wunderwood.org>
References: <558EC6C7.5010302@ve3syb.ca>,
	<1021550752.922940.1435428008900.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>,
	<CACHwrmNS_uiJ6vbLdFg-e8QOhTWGNREcFE3_3DUyT0eicrSinw@mail.gmail.com>	<558F20FF.6014.1406D0A@Gary.ka1j.com>	<558F2B73.1020002@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>	<558F2CE9.6030307@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>	<558F3289.2050209@gmail.com>
	<4B802E4F-1F27-4C21-B3AC-1423A8178251@wunderwood.org>
Message-ID: <558F4C6A.7020704@gmail.com>

So you are saying that NTP should still synchronize my computer clock 
accurately?

On 27/06/2015 20:06, Walter Underwood wrote:
> This is exactly what NTP was designed to handle, synchronizing clocks with long latency. If the variance is small, NTP can sync clocks very accurately.
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/  (my blog)
>
> On Jun 27, 2015, at 4:32 PM, WA8JXM<wa8jxm at gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> >Any suggestions to handle the delay caused by satellite internet access (typical 800 ms ping time)?
>> >
>> >
>> >


From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Sat Jun 27 22:01:10 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (David Feldman via Elecraft)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 19:01:10 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 - sounds like filter "blow-by" - what am I hearing?
Message-ID: <1435456870.97319.BPMail_high_carrier@web164603.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>


I have been using a KX3 during FD, connected to some large (tower/yagi) antennas. Am operating CW exclusively. Although I've had the KX3 for a while, I've only used it casually until today's FD. All day I've been noticing (on 20 and 40M, with fairly strong signals - some ove S9 - across both bands) that I hear CW signals far outside the established CW passband (example setting FC 0.6 kHz and BP 0.3 kHz, I can clearly hear signals with beatnotes in 2-3 kHz range, including ability to copy callsigns.) Have observed this with preamp on or off (for these bands and antennas, I'd normally use preamp off) and attenuator on or off. In all cases I hear the unexpected signals; they are obviously much weaker than signals within the DSP passband, but they are quite audible with any of these (preamp/attenuator) settings, and unexpected as it seems the ultimate rejection of the DSP should be far greater than I'm observing (I've not encountered this effect since my old
 Galaxy V transceiver in 1972). 

The KX3 is about 2 years old, firmware is up to date, it was built from a kit, has had no other problems, has no accessories (no roofing filter, no auto tuner, etc.), and seems to work normally otherwise.

Would be grateful for any advice as to whether this is normal or abormal.

Thanks,

73 Dave WB0GAZ wb0gaz at yahoo.com


From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Sat Jun 27 22:48:40 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (David Feldman via Elecraft)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 19:48:40 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 - sounds like filter "blow-by" - what am I
	hearing?
Message-ID: <1435459720.88948.BPMail_high_carrier@web164605.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>



Another data point while testing -

If the BW is set to an even bandwidth (say 100, 200, 300, 400, 500 Hz) the blow-by effect is very pronounced
If the BW is set to an odd bandwidth (say 150, 250, 350, 450, 550 Hz) the blow-by effect is minimal or absent (not sure, but it is very minor.)

The FC setting doesn't seem to interact with this.

Thanks again any further advice!

Dave


------------------------------
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 8:01 PM MDT David Feldman wrote:

>
>I have been using a KX3 during FD, connected to some large (tower/yagi) antennas. Am operating CW exclusively. Although I've had the KX3 for a while, I've only used it casually until today's FD. All day I've been noticing (on 20 and 40M, with fairly strong signals - some ove S9 - across both bands) that I hear CW signals far outside the established CW passband (example setting FC 0.6 kHz and BP 0.3 kHz, I can clearly hear signals with beatnotes in 2-3 kHz range, including ability to copy callsigns.) Have observed this with preamp on or off (for these bands and antennas, I'd normally use preamp off) and attenuator on or off. In all cases I hear the unexpected signals; they are obviously much weaker than signals within the DSP passband, but they are quite audible with any of these (preamp/attenuator) settings, and unexpected as it seems the ultimate rejection of the DSP should be far greater than I'm observing (I've not encountered this effect since my
 old
> Galaxy V transceiver in 1972). 
>
>The KX3 is about 2 years old, firmware is up to date, it was built from a kit, has had no other problems, has no accessories (no roofing filter, no auto tuner, etc.), and seems to work normally otherwise.
>
>Would be grateful for any advice as to whether this is normal or abormal.
>
>Thanks,
>
>73 Dave WB0GAZ wb0gaz at yahoo.com
>


From k6dgw at foothill.net  Sat Jun 27 22:50:27 2015
From: k6dgw at foothill.net (Fred Jensen)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 19:50:27 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Roofing Filters
Message-ID: <558F60F3.1090000@foothill.net>

Have never experienced AGC pumping with 500 Hz filter, even in DX 
contests.  Been playing around in FD as 1D, and strong signals are 
stacked so close that, for the first time, with the DSP at 150 Hz and 
100 Hz, strong adjacent signals are activating the HW AGC.  I can 
separate the signals with the DSP which is really surprising.  I know 
about "brick wall filters," now I'm using one. :-)

20 is still wide open here on the western frontier at 0245 UTC despite 
K=4 and rising from the M.8 flare a couple days ago.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org

From Gary at ka1j.com  Sat Jun 27 23:24:18 2015
From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 23:24:18 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <558F4C6A.7020704@gmail.com>
References: <558EC6C7.5010302@ve3syb.ca>,
	<4B802E4F-1F27-4C21-B3AC-1423A8178251@wunderwood.org>,
	<558F4C6A.7020704@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <558F68E2.7319.259384A@Gary.ka1j.com>

Gentlemen,

I have today tried each and every one of your suggestions for a 
"correct" server to sync and ever one of them has failed for me. 

While I am truly happy these options work for you, they do not work 
for this computer or any of the other computers I use.

The 3rd party software, however, does work without a hiccup on this 
computer. 

My only interest in my original posting of this was to provide 
information to any of us who have difficulties in syncing their 
computer to the correct time, so they will know a viable option to 
deal with this problem.

I suspect this has been beaten to death and Eric will be soon telling 
us to can it, so lets let it go at this point. 

73,

Gary
KA1J

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From kl7uw at acsalaska.net  Sun Jun 28 03:35:46 2015
From: kl7uw at acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 23:35:46 -0800
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
Message-ID: <201506280735.t5S7Zlku006175@mail41c28.carrierzone.com>

I also use tick.nobs.navy.mil for several years (2003) with my xp32 
machine using D4 (mainly for JT65 on eme).
I have a frequent sync rate so time is rarely off more than 0.020s. 
Dimension-4 is freeware and easy to setup.

I tried some other NIST programs in the past returned to using 
D4.  Its my belief that it is used by very many eme'rs so not sure 
where the comment by GIMHU came from that represented "most eme'rs 
having switched away from D4".  I was never asked in any survey about 
what I am using.

73, Ed - KL7UW
---------------
Myself, I use  tick.nobs.navy.mil with no problems at all.  It's at the
US Naval Observatory and is one of the group used to determine NIST
time.  My first engineering job was at the US Naval  Research Laboratory
so I have a (misplaced ?) loyalty to NObs !  :)

Happy Hamming.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402


73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
     "Kits made by KL7UW"
Dubus Mag business:
     dubususa at gmail.com


From john at carltonhouse.eclipse.co.uk  Sun Jun 28 03:39:03 2015
From: john at carltonhouse.eclipse.co.uk (John Lemay)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 08:39:03 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA100 U6 voltage issue
In-Reply-To: <1435428632.82694.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1435428632.82694.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web184804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <680FC00DA32B4E07847C0B30CF2EE6CC@OwnerPC>

Cathy

With several observed voltages being an order of magnitude wrong, I would
suspect the meter - or, dare I suggest,  the user !

John G4ZTR

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
Catherine James
Sent: 27 June 2015 19:11
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA100 U6 voltage issue

I recently began building a just-purchased KPA100 kit for my K2 #5191. ?All
was well until I reached the voltage checkpoints on page 26.

U5 pin 1 is 0.8 volts (not 0 to 0.1)

U5 pin 7 is 0.9 V (not 0 to 0.1)

U6 pin 6 is 17 volts (not 0 to 0.5)


I am much more concerned about U6, but perhaps the U5 voltages give you more
information.


The no pa pa message comes up as expected, and the current indicated on the
k2 display is less than 400 ma.


The keys are in the correct places on the ribbon cable. Nothing has ever
been plugged into the DB9 port, so this is not the issue where a standard
serial cable damages the kpa100 through the aux port non-standard wiring.


The K2 appears to work fine with the partially built KPA100 disconnected.
Voltages on D9 of the K2 RF board (my proxy for V RFDET) are much lower than
17 volts (kpa100 not connected) so the high voltage appears to come from the
KPA100, not the K2.


I have the KSB2 installed, but haven't explored that its voltages, and
haven't tested whether it still works following the "17 volt incident".


I don't see any obvious solder bridges on the KPA100.


Where would voltages near 17 volts normally be found on the KPA100 board?


Thoughts on next steps?


Cathy

N5WVR

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From forums at david-woolley.me.uk  Sun Jun 28 06:26:45 2015
From: forums at david-woolley.me.uk (David Woolley)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 11:26:45 +0100
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <558F2B73.1020002@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>
References: <558EC6C7.5010302@ve3syb.ca>,
	<1021550752.922940.1435428008900.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>,
	<CACHwrmNS_uiJ6vbLdFg-e8QOhTWGNREcFE3_3DUyT0eicrSinw@mail.gmail.com>	<558F20FF.6014.1406D0A@Gary.ka1j.com>
	<558F2B73.1020002@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>
Message-ID: <558FCBE5.5000506@david-woolley.me.uk>

If you are using pool servers, best practice is to specify at least four 
(that's the reason for having 1., 2., etc., so that you can select four 
different ones).  That way, if one of the them goes rogue it will be 
exlcuded from the time solution but you will still have enough for a 
correct time (there is a theory as to why three isn't enough).  I 
believe that Windows supports the use of multiple servers and the NTP 
mitigation rules for deciding which ones are good, but you will probably 
have to go to the registry.

If you want to use a single server, almost always the best one to use is 
the one run by your ISP.  More ISPs run these than advertise the fact, 
and they are almost always time.<isp> or time1.<isp>, time2.<ips> etc.

Note that time server addresses are normally resolved at start up.  The 
latest reference implementations of ntpd will re-resolve pool servers 
that stop responding, but I don't think that w32time has any specific 
pool server support.

However, if you are radio amateur, and serious about time, you should be 
using a local radio clock.  The NTP reference version supports this, 
even on Windows, although you are likely to need a non-USB serial port 
for best performance.  GPS receivers with pulse per second outputs are 
available for a few tens of USD. 
<http://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/NTP-on-Windows-serial-port.html>

Times accurate to single figure microseconds are possible on Linux, but 
one should really expect Windows to do better than single figure 
milliseconds.  (The figures in the article are likely to be for an 
unloaded system and applications programmes can't normally read the time 
to that high a resolution.  They are also really repeatability, rather 
than absolute accuracy, measurements. You need an even more accurate 
clock to measure those.)

The GPS L1 Coarse/Acquisition signal should be able to obtain time 
transfer accuracies of around 50ns, so GPS itself is not the weak link.

-- 
David Woolley
Owner K2 06123

On 28/06/15 00:02, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:

> The "pool" has a whole bunch of time servers, run by different
> organizations.  The people who run them can add them to the pool, or
> remove them from the pool when they're about to be shut down.
>


From vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk  Sun Jun 28 06:45:51 2015
From: vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk (Johnny Siu)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 10:45:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] Front panel phone socket - K3
Message-ID: <1441989264.744380.1435488351628.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Hello Group,
I have an earlier version of K3 though I keep updating its hardware + firmware to the latest standard.
Now it develops some problem with the front panel phone socket. ?Even after I pull out my headphone jacket, no sound is coming out from the internal loudspeaker. ?On the other hand, if I config the menu SPKR+PH to YES, the sound comes out from the internal loudspeaker again.
Is this indicating a defective front panel phone socket? ?Or, is there any other areas I should look into?
Looking forward to your advice.
73
Johnny VR2XMC

From evetsmd at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 09:29:30 2015
From: evetsmd at gmail.com (evetsmd)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 09:29:30 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Audio Out...
Message-ID: <CAOkuFg=cLUZ7SKoqFG1YQ8jZpf8RmPvf8Y4ngr5sYFNBusxJ9g@mail.gmail.com>

With 4 radios and a computer at the operating position, you can only have
so many speakers before
it gets out of control...
I have an audio mixer that lets me control the inputs and the feed a single
amplified set of studio monitors.

I'd like to connect the K3 thru the mixer....line out to mixer seems to
work but I'd like to keep line in/out
for the digital modes......anyone have thoughts about using the speaker out
jack or phone jack for this approach...

or if you've taken a different approach or seen an article about doing
this, I'd appreciate hearing about it!

Thanks for the help....

Steve

From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net  Sun Jun 28 09:38:39 2015
From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 08:38:39 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <201506280735.t5S7Zlku006175@mail41c28.carrierzone.com>
References: <201506280735.t5S7Zlku006175@mail41c28.carrierzone.com>
Message-ID: <558FF8DF.1060203@mediacombb.net>

I use D4 as well.
It synch's on boot and every 15 minutes thereafter.
The longer you leave the computer on the more accurate the system clock.
I just checked and the last synch adjusted the system clock by .006 
seconds. The computer rebooted three days ago.
That's  plenty good enough for me.


On 6/28/2015 2:35 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
> I also use tick.nobs.navy.mil for several years (2003) with my xp32 
> machine using D4 (mainly for JT65 on eme).
> I have a frequent sync rate so time is rarely off more than 0.020s. 
> Dimension-4 is freeware and easy to setup.
>
> I tried some other NIST programs in the past returned to using D4.  
> Its my belief that it is used by very many eme'rs so not sure where 
> the comment by GIMHU came from that represented "most eme'rs having 
> switched away from D4".  I was never asked in any survey about what I 
> am using.
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> ---------------
> Myself, I use  tick.nobs.navy.mil with no problems at all.  It's at the
> US Naval Observatory and is one of the group used to determine NIST
> time.  My first engineering job was at the US Naval  Research Laboratory
> so I have a (misplaced ?) loyalty to NObs !  :)
>
> Happy Hamming.
>
> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
>
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> http://www.kl7uw.com
>     "Kits made by KL7UW"
> Dubus Mag business:
>     dubususa at gmail.com
>


-- 
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FISTS #11993
SKCC #215
NAQCC #3441


From dick at dkhanson.com  Sun Jun 28 10:01:27 2015
From: dick at dkhanson.com (dick at dkhanson.com)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 10:01:27 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 synthesizer(s)
Message-ID: <000501d0b1aa$ede09720$c9a1c560$@dkhanson.com>

Hello.

 

I'm presently out of the country on a 6m dxpedition and am in the process of
finishing the install of the new KXV3B.

This was my 2nd install of the new board and it went very smoothly.

 

My question is: I hadn't been 'inside' this xcvr for quite a while and had
forgotten it used to have the subreceiver installed.

So, which old synthesizer should I remove, the one closer to the side-panel,
or, the one more centrally located?

 

Thanks so much.

 

Micro surgery in the field can get interesting..

 

Best,

 

Dick, K5AND/PJ5A


From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Sun Jun 28 10:15:37 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Mel Farrer via Elecraft)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 14:15:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
In-Reply-To: <1160400672.465902.1435169080714.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <5563DE3C1B4C483594FD15976DC4AF4D@OfficePCNUC>
	<1160400672.465902.1435169080714.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1076822776.1119266.1435500937498.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

I wanted to make a add on this series of Power Supplies.?? Today I found a PS birdy.? Rough sounding every 26 or so KHz down -115 dBm.? about 6 dB out of the noise on 80 meters.? It moves slightly on turn on.?
Just happened to have the P3 on it when I turned it on.
Mel, K6KBE

      From: Mel Farrer <farrerfolks at yahoo.com>
 To: MontyS <montys at mindspring.com> 
Cc: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 11:04 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
   
Sorry Monty and all.? Fingers must have slipped.
Mel, K6KBE

 

     From: MontyS <montys at mindspring.com>
 To: Mel Farrer <farrerfolks at yahoo.com> 
Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
   
Do not click this link.? The final "DC" should be omitted to get to the 
correct page.
Monty K2DLJ

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mel Farrer via Elecraft
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 9:57 AM
To: ok1rp ; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply

You will find this power supply under many labels.? Here is one in the US. 
http://www.lightobject.com/DC-12V-29A-Switching-Power-Supply-Good-for-CNC-stepping-motor-and-Ham-Radio-P442.aspxDC 
12V 29A Switching Power Supply. Good for CNC stepping motor and Ham Radio
|? |
|? |? |? |? |? |? |? |
| DC 12V 29A Switching Power Supply. Good for CNC step... |
|? |
| View on www.lightobject.com | Preview by Yahoo |
|? |
|? |

? Notice the physical layout and general labeling is Identical to you 
Megawatt unit, this one is Coldfusion.? Like the Megawatt, very little RFI. 
This one has the thermal sensing on the fan.


Mel, K6KBE
? ? ? From: ok1rp <indians at xsmail.com>
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply

Hi,

try this one:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/other-mfrs/megawatt-ps/megawatt-ps.html
http://www.12voltpowersupplies.us/

Even although I am using always linear PSUs for powering my radios I tested
some time ago this unit and it was noiseless and quiet. Also You can find
several good user reports so it sounds like good solution.

You should stay away from offshore clones only...

Hope it helps,
73 - Petr, OK1RP




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From Gary at ka1j.com  Sun Jun 28 10:28:20 2015
From: Gary at ka1j.com (Gary Smith)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 10:28:20 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Front panel phone socket - K3
In-Reply-To: <1441989264.744380.1435488351628.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1441989264.744380.1435488351628.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <55900484.13148.4B925A1@Gary.ka1j.com>

Hi Johnny,

Is it possible that the plug for the speaker has been dislodged and 
not seating properly or, that the wire at the speaker terminal is now 
separated?

73,

Gary
KA1J

> Hello Group,
> I have an earlier version of K3 though I keep updating its hardware + firmware to the latest standard.
> Now it develops some problem with the front panel phone socket. ?Even after I pull out my headphone jacket, no sound is coming out from the internal loudspeaker. ?On the other hand, if I config the menu SPKR+PH to YES, the sound comes out from the internal loudspeaker again.
> Is this indicating a defective front panel phone socket? ?Or, is there any other areas I should look into?
> Looking forward to your advice.
> 73
> Johnny VR2XMC


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From dick at dkhanson.com  Sun Jun 28 10:43:06 2015
From: dick at dkhanson.com (dick at dkhanson.com)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 10:43:06 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 synthesize(s)
Message-ID: <000601d0b1b0$bf4d50a0$3de7f1e0$@dkhanson.com>

Thank you to all.

Question answered and all is well on that front.

73

Dick, K5AND


From dick at dkhanson.com  Sun Jun 28 11:22:25 2015
From: dick at dkhanson.com (dick at dkhanson.com)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 11:22:25 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] one more thing....newly installed KXV3B enable
Message-ID: <000001d0b1b6$3d694de0$b83be9a0$@dkhanson.com>

So the above board is installed, as has the 5.29 firmware.

Could someone point me to the 'new' instructions and magic button-pushing
sequence for enabling the new preamp(s).

Sadly, in my haste to get packed, I did not bring my handwritten notes with
me from home L.

 

Thank you all.

 

Dick, K5AND/PJ5A


From dick at dkhanson.com  Sun Jun 28 11:35:05 2015
From: dick at dkhanson.com (dick at dkhanson.com)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 11:35:05 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] kxv3b install
Message-ID: <000001d0b1b8$02aac830$08005890$@dkhanson.com>

Thanks for all the help.

All is well and on line.

73

Dick


From scott.manthe at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 12:21:58 2015
From: scott.manthe at gmail.com (Scott Manthe)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 12:21:58 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 synthesize(s)
In-Reply-To: <000601d0b1b0$bf4d50a0$3de7f1e0$@dkhanson.com>
References: <000601d0b1b0$bf4d50a0$3de7f1e0$@dkhanson.com>
Message-ID: <55901F26.8000101@gmail.com>

I'm glad that you got your answer, Dick! Please help the rest of us 
wondering about the answer by posting what is was.

73,
Scott, N9AA

On 6/28/15 10:43 AM, dick at dkhanson.com wrote:
> Thank you to all.
>
> Question answered and all is well on that front.
>
> 73
>
> Dick, K5AND
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From kylekrieg at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 12:37:04 2015
From: kylekrieg at gmail.com (Kyle Krieg)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:37:04 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100 + KX3 ATU High SWR
Message-ID: <CAC8mLTDhLZ3sqi7-SgPs9vv+PCSOStFsHkJiGOq37VB2m1nGNQ@mail.gmail.com>

All, hopefully someone can tell me what I'm seeing is expected behavior, as
I've only had my KXPA100 attached to a end fed antenna at my house since I
got it and it's work great.

Yesterday I took the KXPA100 and KX3 out for field day.  We used two
antennas, a Alpha Antenna vertical and a GR8V dipole, each attached to the
KXPA100.  On the KX3, PA MODE is set to ON and TUN PWR is set to nor.  I
have both an ATU in my KX3 and KXPA100.  The KXPA100 has always been in
AUTO mode at home with no issues.

When we tuned the AA vertical from the KX3, we had no issues, full power @
100W, low SWR readings.  Everything was great.  Again we are in AUTO mode
since that's what it was last set to in my house.

Out in the field, when hooking the dipole up, I used the same procedure as
in my house, selecting a band/frequency, tapping the ATU TUNE button on the
KX3 to allow the ATU in the KXPA100 to tune the antenna to an 1:1 or 1:1.2
setting and then transmit.  Right after transmitting, 4 out of 5 times we
would get a flashing SWR fault light on the KXPA100 that would last for 8
seconds.  We switched coax and switched from ANT1 to ANT2 and received the
same results with the dipole.

Is this expected behavior?  I would think the KXPA100 would see that it has
a tune setting in memory and setting it to Auto mode, it wouldn't throw up
that SWR error?

From n1ix at n1ix.com  Sun Jun 28 13:52:36 2015
From: n1ix at n1ix.com (n1ix at n1ix.com)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 13:52:36 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] FS: K3 KFL3B-FM   13 kHz FM filter
Message-ID: <002001d0b1cb$385e83a0$a91b8ae0$@n1ix.com>

 

I have a KFL3B-FM   13 kHz FM filter that I would like to sell for $105
shipped or trade for a 200HZ or 400HZ filter.

 

Dave N1IX


From n6lrv at cox.net  Sun Jun 28 15:02:12 2015
From: n6lrv at cox.net (Gary)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 12:02:12 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] FS - Softrock Lite II Receiver Kits for K3 IF Application
Message-ID: <00e401d0b1d4$f0d9c0d0$d28d4270$@cox.net>

For Sale -  2 new unassembled Softrock Lite II receiver kits for K3 IF
application according to the paper found with them. They're from the estate
of a local SK. I've seen Softrocks mentioned here before and therefore
thought someone in this group may be interested in these kits. Bags contain
the printed circuit boards, hardware, and lots of components. Selling both
kits together as a lot. Available as is for $29 total including shipping in
the U.S.A. PayPal is ok. Please do not reply through the reflector instead
reply directly to me at n6lrv at cox.net. 

73,
Gary


From kevin.stover at mediacombb.net  Sun Jun 28 15:14:23 2015
From: kevin.stover at mediacombb.net (Kevin Stover)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 14:14:23 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100 + KX3 ATU High SWR
In-Reply-To: <CAC8mLTDhLZ3sqi7-SgPs9vv+PCSOStFsHkJiGOq37VB2m1nGNQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC8mLTDhLZ3sqi7-SgPs9vv+PCSOStFsHkJiGOq37VB2m1nGNQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5590478F.1080906@mediacombb.net>

When you refer to the KX3 Tuner are you talking about the one in the amp 
or the rig?
If the tuner is in the rig all your tuning, inless in standby on the 
amp, is the input circuitry of the amp and you will get a good SWR 
everytime. If the amp is in the PA then check the connectors on the 
antennas. The Elecraft tuners will tune a lot of marginal antennas but I 
doubt they will do an open or shorted connector.


On 6/28/2015 11:37 AM, Kyle Krieg wrote:
> All, hopefully someone can tell me what I'm seeing is expected behavior, as
> I've only had my KXPA100 attached to a end fed antenna at my house since I
> got it and it's work great.
>
> Yesterday I took the KXPA100 and KX3 out for field day.  We used two
> antennas, a Alpha Antenna vertical and a GR8V dipole, each attached to the
> KXPA100.  On the KX3, PA MODE is set to ON and TUN PWR is set to nor.  I
> have both an ATU in my KX3 and KXPA100.  The KXPA100 has always been in
> AUTO mode at home with no issues.
>
> When we tuned the AA vertical from the KX3, we had no issues, full power @
> 100W, low SWR readings.  Everything was great.  Again we are in AUTO mode
> since that's what it was last set to in my house.
>
> Out in the field, when hooking the dipole up, I used the same procedure as
> in my house, selecting a band/frequency, tapping the ATU TUNE button on the
> KX3 to allow the ATU in the KXPA100 to tune the antenna to an 1:1 or 1:1.2
> setting and then transmit.  Right after transmitting, 4 out of 5 times we
> would get a flashing SWR fault light on the KXPA100 that would last for 8
> seconds.  We switched coax and switched from ANT1 to ANT2 and received the
> same results with the dipole.
>
> Is this expected behavior?  I would think the KXPA100 would see that it has
> a tune setting in memory and setting it to Auto mode, it wouldn't throw up
> that SWR error?
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From wunder at wunderwood.org  Sun Jun 28 15:43:59 2015
From: wunder at wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 12:43:59 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <558F4C6A.7020704@gmail.com>
References: <558EC6C7.5010302@ve3syb.ca>,
	<1021550752.922940.1435428008900.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>,
	<CACHwrmNS_uiJ6vbLdFg-e8QOhTWGNREcFE3_3DUyT0eicrSinw@mail.gmail.com>	<558F20FF.6014.1406D0A@Gary.ka1j.com>	<558F2B73.1020002@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>	<558F2CE9.6030307@ColdRocksHotBrooms.com>	<558F3289.2050209@gmail.com>
	<4B802E4F-1F27-4C21-B3AC-1423A8178251@wunderwood.org>
	<558F4C6A.7020704@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B855B3F7-DC50-4BCF-977D-A2AE7B346C87@wunderwood.org>

Yes.

wunder
K6WRU
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

On Jun 27, 2015, at 6:22 PM, WA8JXM <wa8jxm at gmail.com> wrote:

> So you are saying that NTP should still synchronize my computer clock accurately?
> 
> On 27/06/2015 20:06, Walter Underwood wrote:
>> This is exactly what NTP was designed to handle, synchronizing clocks with long latency. If the variance is small, NTP can sync clocks very accurately.
>> 
>> wunder
>> K6WRU
>> CM87wj
>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/  (my blog)
>> 
>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 4:32 PM, WA8JXM<wa8jxm at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> 
>>> >Any suggestions to handle the delay caused by satellite internet access (typical 800 ms ping time)?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
> 
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From john.turgoose at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 16:02:59 2015
From: john.turgoose at gmail.com (VE3NFK)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 13:02:59 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] problem KRX3
Message-ID: <1435521779051-7604424.post@n2.nabble.com>

Hi

K3 sn 709   just installed:

2 x KSYN3A
1 x KXVV3B
audio mod (little board with 2 caps and 2 power resistors)
replaced 6 tin pins on PA and main board KPA3 power connectors
replaced power fans with 2 x Noctua's
did mods on KBPF3 x 2

Result  - radio still works :-)  BUT no signals on the sub rx   - can hear
band noise but that is all....
sensitivity on the low bands (300khz-900khz) does seem to be improved at
all.

Advise as to what I have done wrong would be appreciated!

73  John VE3NFK



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From rick.commo at frontier.com  Sun Jun 28 16:26:57 2015
From: rick.commo at frontier.com (Rick Commo)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 13:26:57 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <558F68E2.7319.259384A@Gary.ka1j.com>
References: <558EC6C7.5010302@ve3syb.ca>
	<4B802E4F-1F27-4C21-B3AC-1423A8178251@wunderwood.org>
	<558F4C6A.7020704@gmail.com> <558F68E2.7319.259384A@Gary.ka1j.com>
Message-ID: <836FBEDC-81F2-400B-83CE-E64B0185630B@frontier.com>

Gary,

Is there any chance that perhaps your firewall might be blocking the traffic on that NTP port?  

This thought was triggered by the fact that all your computers were having problems.  From what I?ve found on Google doing a quick search that NTP can use port 123 (IMCP, which is also used by pPing), port 37 (but seems to be disfavored) and port 13.  See: http://tf.nist.gov/tf-cgi/servers.cgi

Cheers and hope you find the problem,
-rick, K7LOG


On Jun 27, 2015, at 8:24 PM, Gary Smith <Gary at ka1j.com> wrote:

Gentlemen,

I have today tried each and every one of your suggestions for a 
"correct" server to sync and ever one of them has failed for me. 

While I am truly happy these options work for you, they do not work 
for this computer or any of the other computers I use.

The 3rd party software, however, does work without a hiccup on this 
computer. 

My only interest in my original posting of this was to provide 
information to any of us who have difficulties in syncing their 
computer to the correct time, so they will know a viable option to 
deal with this problem.

I suspect this has been beaten to death and Eric will be soon telling 
us to can it, so lets let it go at this point. 

73,

Gary
KA1J

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From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Sun Jun 28 17:21:15 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 17:21:15 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Audio Out...
In-Reply-To: <CAOkuFg=cLUZ7SKoqFG1YQ8jZpf8RmPvf8Y4ngr5sYFNBusxJ9g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOkuFg=cLUZ7SKoqFG1YQ8jZpf8RmPvf8Y4ngr5sYFNBusxJ9g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5590654B.2030402@embarqmail.com>

Steve,

While either the rear phone jack or the speaker jack should work OK, I 
would use the phones jack.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/28/2015 9:29 AM, evetsmd wrote:
> With 4 radios and a computer at the operating position, you can only have
> so many speakers before
> it gets out of control...
> I have an audio mixer that lets me control the inputs and the feed a single
> amplified set of studio monitors.
>
> I'd like to connect the K3 thru the mixer....line out to mixer seems to
> work but I'd like to keep line in/out
> for the digital modes......anyone have thoughts about using the speaker out
> jack or phone jack for this approach...
>
> or if you've taken a different approach or seen an article about doing
> this, I'd appreciate hearing about it!
>
> Thanks for the help....
>
> Steve
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From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Sun Jun 28 18:00:31 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:00:31 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] problem KRX3
In-Reply-To: <1435521779051-7604424.post@n2.nabble.com>
References: <1435521779051-7604424.post@n2.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <55906E7F.3000805@embarqmail.com>

John,

Check the SUB-IN and SUB-OUT connectors on the KRX3 to be sure they are 
properly inserted and seated.
Also re-check the cables for the SubRX synthesizer.

Do you have the KBPF3 installed?  That is required for receiving the low 
band.  And you should upgrade the KBPF3(s) with the newly announced 
upgrade kits or order the KBPF3A and the two bypass capacitors for the 
regulators (one for the main RX and another for the SubRX.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/28/2015 4:02 PM, VE3NFK wrote:
> Hi
>
> K3 sn 709   just installed:
>
> 2 x KSYN3A
> 1 x KXVV3B
> audio mod (little board with 2 caps and 2 power resistors)
> replaced 6 tin pins on PA and main board KPA3 power connectors
> replaced power fans with 2 x Noctua's
> did mods on KBPF3 x 2
>
> Result  - radio still works :-)  BUT no signals on the sub rx   - can hear
> band noise but that is all....
> sensitivity on the low bands (300khz-900khz) does seem to be improved at
> all.
>
>


From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Sun Jun 28 18:16:14 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:16:14 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100 + KX3 ATU High SWR
In-Reply-To: <CAC8mLTDhLZ3sqi7-SgPs9vv+PCSOStFsHkJiGOq37VB2m1nGNQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC8mLTDhLZ3sqi7-SgPs9vv+PCSOStFsHkJiGOq37VB2m1nGNQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5590722E.3070306@embarqmail.com>

Kyle,

I suspect you do not have a real problem.

It is much better to set the KXAT100 to MAN after having 'trained' the 
tuner in AUTO by tuning into each band segment (and band) that will be 
used with a particular antenna.
In MAN the KXAT100 does not automatically attempt to retune based of 
frequency and SWR.  It will remember the proper settings and switch to 
those if you change bands or band segments.  IMHO, it would have been 
better to label the AUTO position "TRAIN" instead, but we have what was 
decided when the labels were 'thought up'.

The condition is that there is a very short but finite time difference 
between when the forward power and the reflected power is measured.  If 
the forward power is measured when the power is low and the reflected 
power is then measured when the power is higher, the computed SWR will 
be higher than actual.  When the computed SWR is found to be high, the 
KXAT100 will try to retune (if in AUTO), or throw a fault condition (or 
both).

That usually happens more in SSB mode due to the difference in power 
created by the syllabic nature of speech, but it can occasionally happen 
during CW if the timing is such that the forward power is measured 
during an inter-element space and the reverse power is measured during a 
dit or DAH.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/28/2015 12:37 PM, Kyle Krieg wrote:
> All, hopefully someone can tell me what I'm seeing is expected behavior, as
> I've only had my KXPA100 attached to a end fed antenna at my house since I
> got it and it's work great.
>
> Yesterday I took the KXPA100 and KX3 out for field day.  We used two
> antennas, a Alpha Antenna vertical and a GR8V dipole, each attached to the
> KXPA100.  On the KX3, PA MODE is set to ON and TUN PWR is set to nor.  I
> have both an ATU in my KX3 and KXPA100.  The KXPA100 has always been in
> AUTO mode at home with no issues.
>
> When we tuned the AA vertical from the KX3, we had no issues, full power @
> 100W, low SWR readings.  Everything was great.  Again we are in AUTO mode
> since that's what it was last set to in my house.
>
> Out in the field, when hooking the dipole up, I used the same procedure as
> in my house, selecting a band/frequency, tapping the ATU TUNE button on the
> KX3 to allow the ATU in the KXPA100 to tune the antenna to an 1:1 or 1:1.2
> setting and then transmit.  Right after transmitting, 4 out of 5 times we
> would get a flashing SWR fault light on the KXPA100 that would last for 8
> seconds.  We switched coax and switched from ANT1 to ANT2 and received the
> same results with the dipole.
>
> Is this expected behavior?  I would think the KXPA100 would see that it has
> a tune setting in memory and setting it to Auto mode, it wouldn't throw up
> that SWR error?
>


From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Sun Jun 28 18:33:18 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:33:18 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Front panel phone socket - K3
In-Reply-To: <1441989264.744380.1435488351628.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1441989264.744380.1435488351628.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5590762E.7000509@embarqmail.com>

Johnny,

I suspect some oxidation has formed on the contact areas inside the 
phone jack which are intended to connect/disconnect the speaker.
So yes, I would believe that changing the front panel phone jack will 
fix it.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/28/2015 6:45 AM, Johnny Siu wrote:
> Hello Group,
> I have an earlier version of K3 though I keep updating its hardware + firmware to the latest standard.
> Now it develops some problem with the front panel phone socket.  Even after I pull out my headphone jacket, no sound is coming out from the internal loudspeaker.  On the other hand, if I config the menu SPKR+PH to YES, the sound comes out from the internal loudspeaker again.
> Is this indicating a defective front panel phone socket?  Or, is there any other areas I should look into?
> Looking forward to your advice.
>


From ac2ev at frontier.com  Sun Jun 28 19:12:23 2015
From: ac2ev at frontier.com (Frontier ac2ev)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 19:12:23 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <mailman.16449.1435528841.22967.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.16449.1435528841.22967.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <EED72F7A-9918-49C9-8691-8F01FF3B01AB@frontier.com>

I don't recall anyone mentioning it but I've had very good luck using Meinberg NTP on everything from XP to Windows 8.1.

73
Don AC2EV


> On Jun 28, 2015, at 18:00, elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net wrote:
> 
> Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

From matt.vk2rq at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 19:22:06 2015
From: matt.vk2rq at gmail.com (Matt Maguire)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 23:22:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100 + KX3 ATU High SWR
In-Reply-To: <5590722E.3070306@embarqmail.com>
References: <CAC8mLTDhLZ3sqi7-SgPs9vv+PCSOStFsHkJiGOq37VB2m1nGNQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<5590722E.3070306@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <F0E8602DF208AAEE.A0FF18F3-E82F-45A8-A889-DB15EB96FADF@mail.outlook.com>

Make sure you are running the latest firmware. I observed similar symptoms some time back, and the root cause was resolved in a firmware update.

73, Matt VK2RQ




On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 3:16 PM -0700, "Don Wilhelm" <w3fpr at embarqmail.com> wrote:










Kyle,

I suspect you do not have a real problem.

It is much better to set the KXAT100 to MAN after having 'trained' the 
tuner in AUTO by tuning into each band segment (and band) that will be 
used with a particular antenna.
In MAN the KXAT100 does not automatically attempt to retune based of 
frequency and SWR.  It will remember the proper settings and switch to 
those if you change bands or band segments.  IMHO, it would have been 
better to label the AUTO position "TRAIN" instead, but we have what was 
decided when the labels were 'thought up'.

The condition is that there is a very short but finite time difference 
between when the forward power and the reflected power is measured.  If 
the forward power is measured when the power is low and the reflected 
power is then measured when the power is higher, the computed SWR will 
be higher than actual.  When the computed SWR is found to be high, the 
KXAT100 will try to retune (if in AUTO), or throw a fault condition (or 
both).

That usually happens more in SSB mode due to the difference in power 
created by the syllabic nature of speech, but it can occasionally happen 
during CW if the timing is such that the forward power is measured 
during an inter-element space and the reverse power is measured during a 
dit or DAH.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/28/2015 12:37 PM, Kyle Krieg wrote:
> All, hopefully someone can tell me what I'm seeing is expected behavior, as
> I've only had my KXPA100 attached to a end fed antenna at my house since I
> got it and it's work great.
>
> Yesterday I took the KXPA100 and KX3 out for field day.  We used two
> antennas, a Alpha Antenna vertical and a GR8V dipole, each attached to the
> KXPA100.  On the KX3, PA MODE is set to ON and TUN PWR is set to nor.  I
> have both an ATU in my KX3 and KXPA100.  The KXPA100 has always been in
> AUTO mode at home with no issues.
>
> When we tuned the AA vertical from the KX3, we had no issues, full power @
> 100W, low SWR readings.  Everything was great.  Again we are in AUTO mode
> since that's what it was last set to in my house.
>
> Out in the field, when hooking the dipole up, I used the same procedure as
> in my house, selecting a band/frequency, tapping the ATU TUNE button on the
> KX3 to allow the ATU in the KXPA100 to tune the antenna to an 1:1 or 1:1.2
> setting and then transmit.  Right after transmitting, 4 out of 5 times we
> would get a flashing SWR fault light on the KXPA100 that would last for 8
> seconds.  We switched coax and switched from ANT1 to ANT2 and received the
> same results with the dipole.
>
> Is this expected behavior?  I would think the KXPA100 would see that it has
> a tune setting in memory and setting it to Auto mode, it wouldn't throw up
> that SWR error?
>

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From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Sun Jun 28 19:26:12 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Bill OMara via Elecraft)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 19:26:12 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Help with Sick K3 no output power on the lower bands
Message-ID: <001801d0b1f9$d2313e40$7693bac0$@aol.com>

Hi,

 

I'm looking for some ideas on why my K3 has an intermittent power output
problem only on the lower bands,

 

10,15,20M all work fine and never have a problem.  But 40,80 and 160M has no
output power.

 

I'm keying with both CW and with the Tune button into a dummy load with no
other accessories attached.

 

Sometimes it does work on all bands with full output (100 watts) obtained.

 

But you never know if it going to work or not.

 

Thanks for everyone's thoughts and suggestions in advance.

 

73 Bill   W4RM

 

 

 

Please use W4RM at AOL.COM <mailto:W4RM at AOL.COM>  as my primary account

 


From wk6i.jeff at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 19:35:06 2015
From: wk6i.jeff at gmail.com (Jeff Stai)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:35:06 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] XG3 repeat command
Message-ID: <CAH0gZcbd9zgL1ePXVU95LaaYeNQ2yeLkZ-8G_dkiFGFmG7k6qQ@mail.gmail.com>

If I type:

WM,{RY#;

and then type

W;

It should send RY (as RTTY) over and over until interrupted, right? (The
"#" indicates repeat.)

Mine isn't. It sends it once and stops. I also tried CW, same result. I
even tried typing the examples in the manual exactly as shown. No luck.

Macbook Pro, OSX Yosemite, USB cable, I downloaded the XG3 app today.

What am I missing? 73 jeff wk6i

ps: I'm using the Mac because my PC wouldn't recognize the USB (which I
think is a problem with the PC, it's USB ports are not behaving in
general.) So trying a PC right now is not an option.

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From mickchall at yahoo.co.uk  Sun Jun 28 20:04:33 2015
From: mickchall at yahoo.co.uk (Mick Hall)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 00:04:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Low transmit power after shut down
Message-ID: <227703887.2109992.1435536273045.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi

Working on my K2 with a long wire antenna and externalATU and my K2 shut down. Only working at 5 watts and an SWR of 2.1:1.


?
I didn?t smell anything initially so I powered it backup. At first I couldn?t hear anything on any band and slowly the sound cameback, which was a bit strange.


?
The lights on the ATU no longer indicated any output sostarted checking a bit more when I got a faint smell of fried component. 


?
Before removing any covers I started checking basicthings. S meter stopped registering any received signals, although all bandscould be heard at normal levels.


?
The ATU can only handle 15 watts so I tested up to thisand found that when I dialled in up to 10 watts, It was indicating 0.5 watts. Icould hear the KPA100 switch in at 11 watts but anything up to 15 watts showeda max of 6 watts.


?
I bypassed the KPA100 by powering it from the base K2power socket and the I had the same results. 


?
I immediately thought that the finals have blown but whythe S meter issue?


?
Here are some voltages as I worked through the transmittersignal tracing.


?
P13 Basic voltagechecks 

step 4.

Key down volts at D6 2.6v and D7 7.9v

step 5.

Power output? 0.5W


?
Page 14 Tx mixer,Buffer, Band Pass etc.

Step2

Xmit Mixer Output 2.12vrms

Step 3

Buffer Output 1.61vrms

Step 4

BP filter output 5.65vrms

Step5

T-R switch #1 output 5.6vrms


?
Pre-driver, Driverand PA

Step1

Pre-driver output 4vrms

Step2

Driver Input 1.26rms

Step3

Driver Output 8.2vrms

Step 4

PA input Q7 1.77vrms

Step5

PA input Q8 3.56vrms

Step 6

RF detector input .38vrms

Step 7

DMM set to Diode mode

Q7 ???????? Base1.125

??????????????? Collector1.12

??????????????? Emitter0

??????????????? 

Q8????????? B 1.12

??????????????? C1.12

??????????????? E 0


?
Something else I noticed was that when I turn the RF gaindown fully then back up to max, the sound comes back slowly and not at the samerate you turn the dial, there is a lag.

These last results I think indicate the finals, but whereto start looking for the cause?

Any help would be much appreciated.


?
Mick


?


From vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk  Sun Jun 28 20:23:08 2015
From: vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk (Johnny Siu)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 00:23:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] Front panel phone socket - K3
In-Reply-To: <5590762E.7000509@embarqmail.com>
References: <5590762E.7000509@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <324481318.822221.1435537388991.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Hello Don and others,
Thanks for your reply as well as others replied to me off-the-list.
Since there will be a new DSP board later this year, perhaps,I would simply wait for the new one?to replace the entire board.
73
Johnny VR2XMC
?      ???? Don Wilhelm <w3fpr at embarqmail.com>
 ???? Johnny Siu <vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk>; Elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>; "elecraft_k3 at yahoogroups.com" <elecraft_k3 at yahoogroups.com> 
 ????? 2015?06?29? (??) 6:33 AM
 ??? Re: [Elecraft] Front panel phone socket - K3
   
Johnny,

I suspect some oxidation has formed on the contact areas inside the 
phone jack which are intended to connect/disconnect the speaker.
So yes, I would believe that changing the front panel phone jack will 
fix it.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/28/2015 6:45 AM, Johnny Siu wrote:
> Hello Group,
> I have an earlier version of K3 though I keep updating its hardware + firmware to the latest standard.
> Now it develops some problem with the front panel phone socket.? Even after I pull out my headphone jacket, no sound is coming out from the internal loudspeaker.? On the other hand, if I config the menu SPKR+PH to YES, the sound comes out from the internal loudspeaker again.
> Is this indicating a defective front panel phone socket?? Or, is there any other areas I should look into?
> Looking forward to your advice.
>



  

From n6lrv at cox.net  Sun Jun 28 21:06:52 2015
From: n6lrv at cox.net (Gary)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:06:52 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] FS - Softrock Lite II Receiver Kits for K3 IF
	Application
In-Reply-To: <lv2x1q01645oxQM01v2yAc>
References: <lv2x1q01645oxQM01v2yAc>
Message-ID: <013a01d0b207$e2872fd0$a7958f70$@cox.net>

Thanks to all who responded to my ad for the Softrocks. They are spoken for.
73,
Gary

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Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 12:02 PM
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Subject: [Elecraft] FS - Softrock Lite II Receiver Kits for K3 IF
Application

For Sale -  2 new unassembled Softrock Lite II receiver kits for K3 IF
application according to the paper found with them. They're from the estate
of a local SK. I've seen Softrocks mentioned here before and therefore
thought someone in this group may be interested in these kits. Bags contain
the printed circuit boards, hardware, and lots of components. Selling both
kits together as a lot. Available as is for $29 total including shipping in
the U.S.A. PayPal is ok. Please do not reply through the reflector instead
reply directly to me at n6lrv at cox.net. 

73,
Gary

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From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Sun Jun 28 21:25:14 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:25:14 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Low transmit power after shut down
In-Reply-To: <227703887.2109992.1435536273045.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <227703887.2109992.1435536273045.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <55909E7A.60106@embarqmail.com>

Mick,

You cannot properly troubleshoot a problem like that with too many 
variables involved.  In your case, you have the base K2, the KPA100 
(even when bypassed), your antenna tuner, and your antenna involved - 
the problem could be with any one of them.
The solution is to reduce that number down to one at a time.

One thing your lack of receive tells me is that you are likely looking 
for an intermittent connection somewhere.  The challenge is to find out 
where.

First, physically remove the KPA100 from the base K2 and set it aside.
Then connect the base K2 to a known good 50 ohm non-reactive dummy load.

When that is done, see if you have good power output (the K2 display 
will be close to correct with the dummy load).  Check at a range of powers.
If it OK, then we can move on to the KPA100 for the next step - tell me 
that is the case and we can continue with that.

If the power output of the base K2 has problems (I presume it will have 
low power at some power setting), then set the power knob to 5 watts and 
proceed to make the measurements of RF voltage at the points shown in 
Appendix A page 14, starting midway down the left column.
Make the measurements in order.  If the RF voltages are *higher* than 
those listed, that is *not* a problem.
Tell us the first point where the RF voltages are substantially *lower* 
than that listed.  That is the output of the failing stage. We don't 
have to know the voltages at the prior stages, just the one that is 
lower than expected.
Once we have that information we can help you localize it to the failing 
component.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/28/2015 8:04 PM, Mick Hall wrote:
> Hi
>
> Working on my K2 with a long wire antenna and externalATU and my K2 shut down. Only working at 5 watts and an SWR of 2.1:1.
>   
> I didn?t smell anything initially so I powered it backup. At first I couldn?t hear anything on any band and slowly the sound cameback, which was a bit strange.
>
> The lights on the ATU no longer indicated any output sostarted checking a bit more when I got a faint smell of fried component.
>
> Before removing any covers I started checking basicthings. S meter stopped registering any received signals, although all bandscould be heard at normal levels.
>
> The ATU can only handle 15 watts so I tested up to thisand found that when I dialled in up to 10 watts, It was indicating 0.5 watts. Icould hear the KPA100 switch in at 11 watts but anything up to 15 watts showeda max of 6 watts.
>
> I bypassed the KPA100 by powering it from the base K2power socket and the I had the same results.
>
>
>   
>


From mda at n1en.org  Sun Jun 28 21:45:36 2015
From: mda at n1en.org (Michael Adams)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 01:45:36 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <EED72F7A-9918-49C9-8691-8F01FF3B01AB@frontier.com>
References: <mailman.16449.1435528841.22967.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>,
	<EED72F7A-9918-49C9-8691-8F01FF3B01AB@frontier.com>
Message-ID: <gc0eghmtjedvyurn1u3w4gm0.1435542326836@email.android.com>

FWIW,  the one glitch I encountered when I joined the Win10 beta was that the user account I created for the Meinberg NTP service did not get transferred over from my Win81 install.

Hopefully this will be cleared up before Win10 goes live.



--
Michael Adams | mda at n1en.org


-------- Original message --------
From: Frontier ac2ev <ac2ev at frontier.com>
Date: 2015/06/28 19:13 (GMT-05:00)
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST

I don't recall anyone mentioning it but I've had very good luck using Meinberg NTP on everything from XP to Windows 8.1.

73
Don AC2EV


> On Jun 28, 2015, at 18:00, elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net wrote:
>
> Re: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
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From k7ew at hotmail.com  Sun Jun 28 22:11:10 2015
From: k7ew at hotmail.com (Steve Saslow)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 02:11:10 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 134, Issue 28
In-Reply-To: <mailman.16449.1435528841.22967.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
References: <mailman.16449.1435528841.22967.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <BLU171-W68A6C8465D20C00313010B81AA0@phx.gbl>

RE; KX-3 filter "blow-by"?
I operated about 11hrs in the ARRL FD, all CW on 20 and 40m, at 5w, a ground-mtd vertical, and a 20m dipole at 25 ft. Mine is a unit without roofing filters., just back from great repairs and totally successful burn-in at Elecraft. I kept the bandwidth as narrow as it would go, and did notice what seemed like some filter blow-by. But it was  infrequent, and very attenuated so not a disturbance. I think there were many higher-powered stations active...


 		 	   		  

From matt.vk2rq at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 02:05:05 2015
From: matt.vk2rq at gmail.com (Matt Maguire)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 06:05:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] Audio Out...
In-Reply-To: <CAOkuFg=cLUZ7SKoqFG1YQ8jZpf8RmPvf8Y4ngr5sYFNBusxJ9g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOkuFg=cLUZ7SKoqFG1YQ8jZpf8RmPvf8Y4ngr5sYFNBusxJ9g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F0E8602DF208AAEE.3A449CCD-9C55-4F8A-AA76-3B28961E0F96@mail.outlook.com>

I use a mixer to manage the audio from my radios too, phones jack works well. One mixer output mixer goes to a set of headphones and the other output to a set of powered monitor speakers. The outputs each have their own master volume control, so I can have the audio coming out the speakers, the headphones, or both.
I forget how I put audio into the radios (I'm mostly CW, and I just use an audio switch box to direct the paddles/key to the right radio). I think maybe I hooked up a mic and a PC up to one of the input strips on the mixer, and take the audio out the back of the input strip towards my main radio; for the other radios I use a hand mike where needed.
73, Matt VK2RQ




On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 6:30 AM -0700, "evetsmd" <evetsmd at gmail.com> wrote:










With 4 radios and a computer at the operating position, you can only have
so many speakers before
it gets out of control...
I have an audio mixer that lets me control the inputs and the feed a single
amplified set of studio monitors.

I'd like to connect the K3 thru the mixer....line out to mixer seems to
work but I'd like to keep line in/out
for the digital modes......anyone have thoughts about using the speaker out
jack or phone jack for this approach...

or if you've taken a different approach or seen an article about doing
this, I'd appreciate hearing about it!

Thanks for the help....

Steve
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From n1ix at n1ix.com  Mon Jun 29 05:33:23 2015
From: n1ix at n1ix.com (n1ix at n1ix.com)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 05:33:23 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] FS: K3 KFL3B-FM   13 kHz FM filter
In-Reply-To: <002001d0b1cb$385e83a0$a91b8ae0$@n1ix.com>
References: <002001d0b1cb$385e83a0$a91b8ae0$@n1ix.com>
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The FM filter is sold. 
Thanks
Dave N1IX

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Subject: [Elecraft] FS: K3 KFL3B-FM 13 kHz FM filter

 

I have a KFL3B-FM   13 kHz FM filter that I would like to sell for $105
shipped or trade for a 200HZ or 400HZ filter.

 

Dave N1IX

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From roncerra at earthlink.net  Mon Jun 29 08:37:04 2015
From: roncerra at earthlink.net (KM4VX)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 05:37:04 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 FOR SALE
Message-ID: <1435581424735-7604443.post@n2.nabble.com>

FS: ELECRAFT K2  WITH KAT100 AND KAP100 IN EC2 ENCLOSURE. K2 HAS KSB2 SSB
MODULE, K160RX 160 MODULE,  K6OXV 60 METER MODULE,  KNB2 NOISE BLANKER, 
KAT2 INTERNAL QRP TUNER,  KIO2 COMPUTER CONTROL MODULE, FD1MP FINGER DIMPLE
VFO KNOB AND MH2 ELECRAFT MIC. ALL CABLES AND MANUALS INCLUDED. K2 DOES NOT
RPT NOT HAVE INTERNAL BATTTERY MODULE.  K2 NEVER PORTABLE AND I AM ORIGINAL
OWNER. SERIAL NUMBER 57XX.  K2 PROFESSIONALLY BUILT BY DON WILHELM.
EVERYTHING IN PERFECT WORKING ORDER.  OVER $2,000.00 IN HARDWARE PLUS
BUILDING FEES.  FIRM PRICE $1,300.00 INCLUDING SHIPPING TO LOWER 48. SELLING
BECAUSE K2 RARELY USED (MOSTLY ON WSPR AT 5 WATTS) AND I HAVE A K3 WITH
HOPES OF PURCHASING A K3S SOON. PHOTO ON QRZ.COM FOR KM4VX IS K2 FOR SALE.
PLS REPLY OFF-LINE RONCERRA at OUTLOOK.COM OR (910) 793-9043. THANKS AND 73.
RON KM4VX



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From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Mon Jun 29 10:41:22 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (K4ia via Elecraft)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:41:22 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Sub RCVR RF Gain dropping
Message-ID: <55915912.8000101@aol.com>

I have noticed that the RF gain on the Sub RX will often drop way down. 
I recall it happens when the SUB RX is first engaged.  But twisting the 
knob a bit brings it right back up.  This happened at FD when I was 
using the Sub Rx to S&P listening between CQs.

Ideas?

-- 
Buck,  k4ia
DXCC Honor Roll 333  8B DXCC
K3# 101  KX3 #715


From dick.judy.lamb at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 11:46:35 2015
From: dick.judy.lamb at gmail.com (Dick Lamb)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:46:35 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 INFO 232 error with PLL
Message-ID: <CAJmEykg6GN8VVMEUJ3L0uFt4Yfw7_L7b+f4Jcd4b=JhCkonE2A@mail.gmail.com>

On a K2, the freq display is way, way off; e.g.,  on 40 meters it's really
receiving about 0.5 mHz lower.  I tried to run CAL PLL but get INFO 232.
The  PLL process appears to start, momentarily displaying 11,27164 mHZ,
then aborts in about a second with the INFO 232 error.  I'm absolutely
positive before running PLL that the VFO shows a 40 meter freq and the
probe is plugged into TP1.

The CAL FCTR readings for the TPs are:  TP1 = 11271.8(4);  TP2 = 4913.55;
 TP3 = 12097.9(6)  (Numbers in parentheses flicker between an adjacent
digit, but values are otherwise stable).

Probably not relevant, but more background.   This is my friends K2 for
which the KPA100 would not work.  I traced problem to blown diode in swr
bridge, fixed it, and that problem was solved.  Also, I Initially I made a
change in the set-up menu for the k60xv, not realizing it was installed.
Nothing else was touched--at least intentionally.

Ideas where I can start?  I do have my own working K2 for comparison
purposes.  Dick, K0KK

From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Mon Jun 29 12:38:24 2015
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 09:38:24 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT setting your computer to NIST
In-Reply-To: <DUB112-DS17172E3BF660436E14098EE9AC0@phx.gbl>
References: <558D9406.1501.2B33E35@Gary.ka1j.com><558DC0FE.8010505@coastside.net>
	<558DC27F.8020406@voodoolab.com>
	<DUB112-DS17172E3BF660436E14098EE9AC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <55917480.7000709@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On Fri,6/26/2015 6:54 PM, Robin Moseley wrote:
> most EME stations

There are several good applications that do this. I've used NetTime for 
several years. http://www.timesynctool.com/  It runs in the background, 
can be set to sync at intervals that make sense for your PC.

BTW -- the accuracy of the clock in a computer is NOT a function of 
battery condition, but rather the temperature in your shack and the 
temperature stability of the clock. One of my computers needed a sync 
every half hour to be good enough for WSJT modes, while others can go 
for days. With NetTime, you can see the time correction applied at each 
sync.

73, Jim K9YC

From w3fpr at embarqmail.com  Mon Jun 29 13:13:27 2015
From: w3fpr at embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 13:13:27 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 INFO 232 error with PLL
In-Reply-To: <CAJmEykg6GN8VVMEUJ3L0uFt4Yfw7_L7b+f4Jcd4b=JhCkonE2A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJmEykg6GN8VVMEUJ3L0uFt4Yfw7_L7b+f4Jcd4b=JhCkonE2A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55917CB7.3080905@embarqmail.com>

Dick,

With the K60XV installed, do your have the menu for d10 set to "Y" - i 
needs to be that way or CAL PLL will fail as you stated.
The initial frequency for CAL PLL is in the 12,960 to 12.990 range.

Your TP1 reading also says that the frequency the K2 is trying to tune 
to is near 6350 kHz - again the problem is the d19 menu parameter.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/29/2015 11:46 AM, Dick Lamb wrote:
> On a K2, the freq display is way, way off; e.g.,  on 40 meters it's really
> receiving about 0.5 mHz lower.  I tried to run CAL PLL but get INFO 232.
> The  PLL process appears to start, momentarily displaying 11,27164 mHZ,
> then aborts in about a second with the INFO 232 error.  I'm absolutely
> positive before running PLL that the VFO shows a 40 meter freq and the
> probe is plugged into TP1.
>
> The CAL FCTR readings for the TPs are:  TP1 = 11271.8(4);  TP2 = 4913.55;
>   TP3 = 12097.9(6)  (Numbers in parentheses flicker between an adjacent
> digit, but values are otherwise stable).
>
> Probably not relevant, but more background.   This is my friends K2 for
> which the KPA100 would not work.  I traced problem to blown diode in swr
> bridge, fixed it, and that problem was solved.  Also, I Initially I made a
> change in the set-up menu for the k60xv, not realizing it was installed.
> Nothing else was touched--at least intentionally.
>
>


From dick.judy.lamb at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 14:09:18 2015
From: dick.judy.lamb at gmail.com (Dick Lamb)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 13:09:18 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 INFO 232 error with PLL
In-Reply-To: <55917CB7.3080905@embarqmail.com>
References: <CAJmEykg6GN8VVMEUJ3L0uFt4Yfw7_L7b+f4Jcd4b=JhCkonE2A@mail.gmail.com>
	<55917CB7.3080905@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJmEykjD3j0bRugXBbn_iAmZ8VYX-p+W79NzGBNvw4fakMjwFw@mail.gmail.com>

Don, I changed the setting to "Y," and it instantly jumped back on
frequency and everything is fine again.  As always, I really appreciate
your expert and responsive help.

Dick, K0KK

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Don Wilhelm <w3fpr at embarqmail.com> wrote:

> Dick,
>
> With the K60XV installed, do your have the menu for d10 set to "Y" - i
> needs to be that way or CAL PLL will fail as you stated.
> The initial frequency for CAL PLL is in the 12,960 to 12.990 range.
>
> Your TP1 reading also says that the frequency the K2 is trying to tune to
> is near 6350 kHz - again the problem is the d19 menu parameter.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
> On 6/29/2015 11:46 AM, Dick Lamb wrote:
>
>> On a K2, the freq display is way, way off; e.g.,  on 40 meters it's really
>> receiving about 0.5 mHz lower.  I tried to run CAL PLL but get INFO 232.
>> The  PLL process appears to start, momentarily displaying 11,27164 mHZ,
>> then aborts in about a second with the INFO 232 error.  I'm absolutely
>> positive before running PLL that the VFO shows a 40 meter freq and the
>> probe is plugged into TP1.
>>
>> The CAL FCTR readings for the TPs are:  TP1 = 11271.8(4);  TP2 = 4913.55;
>>   TP3 = 12097.9(6)  (Numbers in parentheses flicker between an adjacent
>> digit, but values are otherwise stable).
>>
>> Probably not relevant, but more background.   This is my friends K2 for
>> which the KPA100 would not work.  I traced problem to blown diode in swr
>> bridge, fixed it, and that problem was solved.  Also, I Initially I made a
>> change in the set-up menu for the k60xv, not realizing it was installed.
>> Nothing else was touched--at least intentionally.
>>
>>
>>
>

From blairbates at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 16:22:59 2015
From: blairbates at gmail.com (Blair Bates)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 16:22:59 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KSYN3A in FD
Message-ID: <CANgBGxwaG20ME4syFjtbWgEx=ORtinjRaReVvZyPnmMUck=60Q@mail.gmail.com>

Had the opportunity to operate two, different K3 transceivers, both with
the new KSYN3A boards, during FD.

A few CW observations:
1.  The only way I became aware of a station moving close to me was when my
"rate" dropped.  A glance at the P3, or opening up the receiver bandwidth,
always revealed that somebody loud had moved in really close.  Since not
everyone has K3 . . . my rate fell in what was QRM for other receivers.

2.  The bands seemed really "big".  I was always able to quickly find a run
frequency when moving from another band or mode.

3.  In spite of rainstorms for about 23 hours of FD, the bands seemed quiet
and lightning crackles were quite subdued.

I'm sure that these observations are routine for experienced K3 users.
For somebody who is still trying to decide, or is still feeding the piggy
bank, the K3 has one H3LL of a receiver--especially when equipped with the
KSYN3A board.

73, K3YD

From raysills3 at verizon.net  Mon Jun 29 17:11:43 2015
From: raysills3 at verizon.net (Ray Sills)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 17:11:43 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KSYN3A in FD
In-Reply-To: <CANgBGxwaG20ME4syFjtbWgEx=ORtinjRaReVvZyPnmMUck=60Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANgBGxwaG20ME4syFjtbWgEx=ORtinjRaReVvZyPnmMUck=60Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3083F996-EE35-4643-943E-D70119E8154B@verizon.net>

My local club decided to call off their FD plans, due to the bad WX in  
our area.  They were going to use a new site, which is located on  
elevated ground... normally a good thing.  But the possibility of  
lightning was in the forecast, so perhaps discretion was the better  
call.

So, I set up with my KX3 and an AlexLoop, and made a few dozen  
contacts.  I had some family obligations over the weekend, so I didn't  
spend too much time on the air.  Nevertheless, the KX3 made a fine  
showing.  I have a suspicion that quite a few of the stations I worked  
were using K3s.  I say that because those were stations that were  
running, and when I would zero beat their frequency, I'd usually have  
them respond to my -single- call.  We wrap up the QSO in fifteen  
seconds of so.  Took me more time to make the log entry than the  
QSO.  :)
That tells me that the other guys had no problems fending off QRM,  
especially at multiple transmitter sites.

I worked only CW on 40 and 20, with the KX3 at 5 watts.  The KX3 made  
a fine showing.  It seemed almost too easy.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211



From frantz at pwpconsult.com  Mon Jun 29 17:23:46 2015
From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 14:23:46 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] QRP RTTY
In-Reply-To: <r422Ps-1075i-6278483F31C1431B8EDE5E57B4956889@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
Message-ID: <r422Ps-1075i-FE3AB8613E5548ED95B9769FF3F13475@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>

To follow up: Many messages, both on and off list, indicated I 
should give RTTY a good try during field day. My results this 
year were a total of 201 digital QSOs with 21 RTTY QSOs. I had 3 
dups between RTTY and PSK. (RUMPed seems to consider RTTY & PSK 
separate modes and I didn't manually detect the dups until I had 
the entire log loaded into a spread sheet.) I would guess that I 
completed a contact with about 80% of the RTTY stations I 
called, actually a pretty good rate.

So yes, QRP RTTY is worth doing.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 6/22/15 at 1:52 PM, frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) wrote:

>Has anyone had success in QRP RTTY operation? Should I consider 
>RTTY a mode only suitable for higher power?

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From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Mon Jun 29 17:56:00 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Mel Farrer via Elecraft)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 21:56:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] QRP RTTY
In-Reply-To: <r422Ps-1075i-FE3AB8613E5548ED95B9769FF3F13475@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
References: <r422Ps-1075i-FE3AB8613E5548ED95B9769FF3F13475@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
Message-ID: <535699727.2019530.1435614960450.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Bill,
Interesting thread..
I think the correct answer to your question on QRP RTTY is to compare the eff of it to other modes of digital modulation?? That is, what is the bit error rate of it to other modes at threshold levels.... Not to negate RTTY, just make the comparison on energy used to complete a contact......................

Cheers,
Mel, K6KBE

      From: Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com>
 To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 2:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRP RTTY
   
To follow up: Many messages, both on and off list, indicated I 
should give RTTY a good try during field day. My results this 
year were a total of 201 digital QSOs with 21 RTTY QSOs. I had 3 
dups between RTTY and PSK. (RUMPed seems to consider RTTY & PSK 
separate modes and I didn't manually detect the dups until I had 
the entire log loaded into a spread sheet.) I would guess that I 
completed a contact with about 80% of the RTTY stations I 
called, actually a pretty good rate.

So yes, QRP RTTY is worth doing.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 6/22/15 at 1:52 PM, frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz) wrote:

>Has anyone had success in QRP RTTY operation? Should I consider 
>RTTY a mode only suitable for higher power?

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From john.turgoose at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 19:50:40 2015
From: john.turgoose at gmail.com (VE3NFK)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 16:50:40 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] fixed  was Re: problem KRX3
In-Reply-To: <55906E7F.3000805@embarqmail.com>
References: <1435521779051-7604424.post@n2.nabble.com>
	<55906E7F.3000805@embarqmail.com>
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Hi

I like to see the resolution of problems..  so here goes for mine..

With the expert help of Howard at Elecraft; 3 phone calls and 2 emails
later;

the problem was Synth2 not working ... the fix was to remove it - look at it
:-)
and replace it.   
Now the sub RX works great.

73  John VE3NFK



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From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Mon Jun 29 19:50:49 2015
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 16:50:49 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] QRP RTTY
In-Reply-To: <535699727.2019530.1435614960450.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <r422Ps-1075i-FE3AB8613E5548ED95B9769FF3F13475@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
	<535699727.2019530.1435614960450.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5591D9D9.9060406@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On Mon,6/29/2015 2:56 PM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft wrote:
> I think the correct answer to your question on QRP RTTY is to compare the eff of it to other modes of digital modulation?

No, it's a different question. In the context of Field Day, 
effectiveness is defined by the number of QSOs in the log, per hour. 
And, for QRP battery, the 5X power multiplier.

73, Jim K9YC

From k1whs at metrocast.net  Mon Jun 29 19:57:38 2015
From: k1whs at metrocast.net (Dave Olean)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 23:57:38 -0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KSYN3A in FD
References: <CANgBGxwaG20ME4syFjtbWgEx=ORtinjRaReVvZyPnmMUck=60Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <15A65BA4FF1948A788FB4B1EED9A99AB@t30ce0d73e1b34>

I used a K3 with the new synthesizer and it workerd great, but with just 
five watts QRP on battery power, I found condx were pretty bad. The 
nor'easter that blew into northern New England did not help. We had high 
winds buffeting the tent and a pretty substantial river developed right 
under the operating table. Apparently things were not so bad farther south, 
but propagation seemed depressed here.  Did anyone else think propagation 
was down? Lots of QSB and watery signals. Maybe our wire antenna was NG, but 
I doubt it. We had three half waves on 20 M  fed with open wire. There was 
plenty of room between other signals on all the bands. The K3 worked 
flawlessly.

Dave K1WHS

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blair Bates" <blairbates at gmail.com>
To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 8:22 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KSYN3A in FD


> Had the opportunity to operate two, different K3 transceivers, both with
> the new KSYN3A boards, during FD.
>
> A few CW observations:
> 1.  The only way I became aware of a station moving close to me was when 
> my
> "rate" dropped.  A glance at the P3, or opening up the receiver bandwidth,
> always revealed that somebody loud had moved in really close.  Since not
> everyone has K3 . . . my rate fell in what was QRM for other receivers.
>
> 2.  The bands seemed really "big".  I was always able to quickly find a 
> run
> frequency when moving from another band or mode.
>
> 3.  In spite of rainstorms for about 23 hours of FD, the bands seemed 
> quiet
> and lightning crackles were quite subdued.
>
> I'm sure that these observations are routine for experienced K3 users.
> For somebody who is still trying to decide, or is still feeding the piggy
> bank, the K3 has one H3LL of a receiver--especially when equipped with the
> KSYN3A board.
>
> 73, K3YD
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From u1004467 at warwick.net  Mon Jun 29 20:11:36 2015
From: u1004467 at warwick.net (John Santillo)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 20:11:36 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KSYN3A in FD
In-Reply-To: <15A65BA4FF1948A788FB4B1EED9A99AB@t30ce0d73e1b34>
References: <CANgBGxwaG20ME4syFjtbWgEx=ORtinjRaReVvZyPnmMUck=60Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<15A65BA4FF1948A788FB4B1EED9A99AB@t30ce0d73e1b34>
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We (Sussex County ARC W2LV) in NW NJ ran a 5A operation and had a couple of
K3's on hand.  We thought conditions were flat on Saturday but a little
better on Sunday.  We were well protected under a large circus tent with
perimeter tarps from the wind and the rain.  The cold (low 50's) was the
biggest issue.  The K3's ran perfect but the foot switches weren't happy.


73,

John
N2HMM  

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave
Olean
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 7:58 PM
To: Blair Bates; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KSYN3A in FD

I used a K3 with the new synthesizer and it workerd great, but with just 
five watts QRP on battery power, I found condx were pretty bad. The 
nor'easter that blew into northern New England did not help. We had high 
winds buffeting the tent and a pretty substantial river developed right 
under the operating table. Apparently things were not so bad farther south, 
but propagation seemed depressed here.  Did anyone else think propagation 
was down? Lots of QSB and watery signals. Maybe our wire antenna was NG, but

I doubt it. We had three half waves on 20 M  fed with open wire. There was 
plenty of room between other signals on all the bands. The K3 worked 
flawlessly.

Dave K1WHS

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blair Bates" <blairbates at gmail.com>
To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 8:22 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KSYN3A in FD


> Had the opportunity to operate two, different K3 transceivers, both with
> the new KSYN3A boards, during FD.
>
> A few CW observations:
> 1.  The only way I became aware of a station moving close to me was when 
> my
> "rate" dropped.  A glance at the P3, or opening up the receiver bandwidth,
> always revealed that somebody loud had moved in really close.  Since not
> everyone has K3 . . . my rate fell in what was QRM for other receivers.
>
> 2.  The bands seemed really "big".  I was always able to quickly find a 
> run
> frequency when moving from another band or mode.
>
> 3.  In spite of rainstorms for about 23 hours of FD, the bands seemed 
> quiet
> and lightning crackles were quite subdued.
>
> I'm sure that these observations are routine for experienced K3 users.
> For somebody who is still trying to decide, or is still feeding the piggy
> bank, the K3 has one H3LL of a receiver--especially when equipped with the
> KSYN3A board.
>
> 73, K3YD
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From w6jhb at me.com  Mon Jun 29 20:44:06 2015
From: w6jhb at me.com (James Bennett)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 17:44:06 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 FD Operations?
Message-ID: <3FB848B9-5484-4AD4-AD69-46FE3A53ACF1@me.com>

Wondering how many ops on this reflector had a KX3 station running this past weekend in Field Day? I had mine running five watts, along with a PX3, set up on our back patio. Ran a LiFePO4 battery and solar panel, along with a half-sized G5RV in inverted Vee mode, apex up 25 feet.

Conditions weren't great here (25 miles east of Sacramento) but still had fun and the KX3 performed quite well. The bulk of my QSO's were made on 40 and 20 meters. A handful on 15 and four on 80 meters. I listened, but heard ZERO stations on 10 meters either day. Ughhh....

Jim Bennett / W6JHB (1E, SV)
Folsom, CA

From frantz at pwpconsult.com  Mon Jun 29 21:04:24 2015
From: frantz at pwpconsult.com (Bill Frantz)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 18:04:24 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] QRP RTTY
In-Reply-To: <5591D9D9.9060406@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Message-ID: <r422Ps-1075i-4CC6CFE4E9BF4CEBA393CE709D9B7BCC@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>

Jim is right about this one. However, there was a huge gap 
between the RTTY world and the PSK world and it wasn't the 
technical differences in the modes.

On field day you expect to find all levels of experience, from 
the seasoned contest op to someone using a radio for the first 
time in a GOTA station.

The RTTY stations I saw were all acting like experienced contest 
ops, spread out with good space between the signals. To avoid 
QRMing each other, callers would take turns. A typical QSO would go:

   CQ FD N4XX N4XX
   N4XX DE K6EI K6EI KN
   K6EI 3A SFL 3A SFL K6EI
   N4XX 11A SCV 11A SCV DE K6EI
   K6EI TU QRZ N4XX

I was using K6EI and the N4XX call is made up. My transmissions 
above were the macros I was using. I had a bunch of unnecessary 
DEs and KNs, but the macros were set up for the PSK world.

The PSK world was quite different. Lots of people jumped in to 
call CQ on top of ongoing QSOs. There were pileups everywhere. 
The exchanges were also quite different. Some of the CQers 
expected to receive the exchange before sending theirs. The 
icing on the cake was one station which sent its exchange (not 
quoting exactly, but recreating from a vague memory):

   K6EI One Alpha South Florida One Alpha South Florida de N4XX

Needless to say, the rate with the RTTY stations was a lot 
higher. However, most of the activity was on PSK. We spent less 
that 2 hours on RTTY and 22 on PSK. (I had help from several 
other operators who wanted to learn digital operations.)

73 Bill AE6JV

On 6/29/15 at 4:50 PM, jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) wrote:

>On Mon,6/29/2015 2:56 PM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft wrote:
>>I think the correct answer to your question on QRP RTTY is to compare the eff of it to other modes
>of digital modulation?
>
>No, it's a different question. In the context of Field Day, 
>effectiveness is defined by the number of QSOs in the log, per 
>hour. And, for QRP battery, the 5X power multiplier.
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From raysills3 at verizon.net  Mon Jun 29 21:23:09 2015
From: raysills3 at verizon.net (Ray Sills)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 21:23:09 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 FD Operations?
In-Reply-To: <3FB848B9-5484-4AD4-AD69-46FE3A53ACF1@me.com>
References: <3FB848B9-5484-4AD4-AD69-46FE3A53ACF1@me.com>
Message-ID: <F1BD3451-6BB7-4E18-A606-49FFCC200EA7@verizon.net>

Yours truly ran his KX3 at 5 watts (battery) feeding an AlexLoop for  
antenna.  And, it did seem to me that band conditions were not that  
good, especially on 20 meters: skip was short and there seemed to be  
noise and QSB.  I spent most of my time on 40, even though the antenna  
is -least- efficient on that band.  But it worked well enough to log a  
couple dozen QSOs over about 4 or 5 hours of operating time.

My battery was one of the N1RX medical cart batteries, and it did a  
fine job.  Still have 75% capacity left.  I have a bunch of solar  
panels, but with the rotten WX... I never used them.

Even with the marginal conditions, it was fun to get on the air.  And,  
I'm more pleased than ever with my KX3!  It would have been nice to  
have a PX3, but even without it I did fine.  I did use a Ham Central  
Terminal for operating and logging.  Operating position lighting was  
by means of a Biolite PowerLight.  Did not need to deploy the "Nano  
Grid" extra lights.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211

On Jun 29, 2015, at 8:44 PM, James Bennett wrote:

> Wondering how many ops on this reflector had a KX3 station running  
> this past weekend in Field Day? I had mine running five watts, along  
> with a PX3, set up on our back patio. Ran a LiFePO4 battery and  
> solar panel, along with a half-sized G5RV in inverted Vee mode, apex  
> up 25 feet.
>
> Conditions weren't great here (25 miles east of Sacramento) but  
> still had fun and the KX3 performed quite well. The bulk of my QSO's  
> were made on 40 and 20 meters. A handful on 15 and four on 80  
> meters. I listened, but heard ZERO stations on 10 meters either day.  
> Ughhh....
>
> Jim Bennett / W6JHB (1E, SV)
> Folsom, CA
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From netcrusher88 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 21:30:34 2015
From: netcrusher88 at gmail.com (Amy Wilhelm)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 18:30:34 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 FD Operations?
In-Reply-To: <3FB848B9-5484-4AD4-AD69-46FE3A53ACF1@me.com>
References: <3FB848B9-5484-4AD4-AD69-46FE3A53ACF1@me.com>
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I set up at a park but I'm afraid I wasn't really up to being out much... And work and plans Saturday interfered, and I hid inside from dry lightning on Sunday after visiting the Seattle ACS setup. 

I mostly tuned around 20m, tried SSB and PSK31 a bit but didn't have any luck on either of those. Bands were *crowded* and possibly a magnetic loop isn't the best choice for contesting. ? Got one JT65 QSO down, but not for FD. 

Given more time (or CW...) I'm sure I could have made a few QSOs but between scheduling and weather I only had about an hour and a half on the air. 

-Amy
K3ISI

Sent from infinite squirrels at infinite keyboards

> On Jun 29, 2015, at 5:44 PM, James Bennett <w6jhb at me.com> wrote:
> 
> Wondering how many ops on this reflector had a KX3 station running this past weekend in Field Day? I had mine running five watts, along with a PX3, set up on our back patio. Ran a LiFePO4 battery and solar panel, along with a half-sized G5RV in inverted Vee mode, apex up 25 feet.
> 
> Conditions weren't great here (25 miles east of Sacramento) but still had fun and the KX3 performed quite well. The bulk of my QSO's were made on 40 and 20 meters. A handful on 15 and four on 80 meters. I listened, but heard ZERO stations on 10 meters either day. Ughhh....
> 
> Jim Bennett / W6JHB (1E, SV)
> Folsom, CA
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From joe at selectconnect.net  Mon Jun 29 21:49:10 2015
From: joe at selectconnect.net (Joe Moffatt)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 01:49:10 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 FD report in high RF (K3 vs Flex 6xxx)
Message-ID: <C79D3AFB46F730428C54051DD86A135E6860240C@ORD2MBX05B.mex05.mlsrvr.com>

Guys,

I just had the very fortunate (for me) experience of operating my K3 in a 4F category with some good operators.   My CW station was
My K3, and the other was an Orion 1.   The 2 SSB stations were a Flex 6500 and a 6300.

Due to space limitations, this is a very high RF environment.  We used Dunestar filters, and as much antenna separation as we could, but
It was what it was.

The K3 and Orion absolutely crushed the Flex's.  The Flex's got destroyed by in band interference from the CW guys, but we never heard them.
I thought that was a bit odd.     Anyhow, to be fair, I didn't get to switch to their antennas to see how different they would be.

But I will say this... numerous times during FD, the computers on the Flex's locked up, usually forcing a reboot.  That greatly upset the old school
Operators.   Meanwhile, the K3 performed like a rock star, and we racked up LOTS of CW QSOs on it... well over 1000.

Just wanted to say that the K3 is very dear to me, and until the Flex's can be operated without a computer, there really isn't a comparison in
Real world operation.   I realize mileage may vary, but I was VERY impressed and proud of my K3 in this contest.

Mine is one of the last one's pre K3S and does have the new synth.  I love it dearly.

I think our total score for the effort was over 9000 QSO points, about 2600 QSO's combined between all.

Joe
AB5OR

From joe at selectconnect.net  Mon Jun 29 21:51:16 2015
From: joe at selectconnect.net (Joe Moffatt)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 01:51:16 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KSYN3A in FD
In-Reply-To: <CANgBGxwaG20ME4syFjtbWgEx=ORtinjRaReVvZyPnmMUck=60Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <C79D3AFB46F730428C54051DD86A135E68602425@ORD2MBX05B.mex05.mlsrvr.com>

I had almost the exact same experience.   A lot of times I have to remind myself that the K3 is so good, I need to give more room in the normal passband because I can't hear strong guys right next to me.

I have an Afedri SDR on my IF for my PAN, and I see that a lot.

Joe

AB5OR


From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Blair Bates
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 3:23 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KSYN3A in FD

Had the opportunity to operate two, different K3 transceivers, both with
the new KSYN3A boards, during FD.

A few CW observations:
1. The only way I became aware of a station moving close to me was when my
"rate" dropped. A glance at the P3, or opening up the receiver bandwidth,
always revealed that somebody loud had moved in really close. Since not
everyone has K3 . . . my rate fell in what was QRM for other receivers.

2. The bands seemed really "big". I was always able to quickly find a run
frequency when moving from another band or mode.

3. In spite of rainstorms for about 23 hours of FD, the bands seemed quiet
and lightning crackles were quite subdued.

I'm sure that these observations are routine for experienced K3 users.
For somebody who is still trying to decide, or is still feeding the piggy
bank, the K3 has one H3LL of a receiver--especially when equipped with the
KSYN3A board.

73, K3YD
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From K0ACP at arrl.net  Mon Jun 29 22:12:44 2015
From: K0ACP at arrl.net (Arthur Peters)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 22:12:44 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 FD Operations?
In-Reply-To: <3FB848B9-5484-4AD4-AD69-46FE3A53ACF1@me.com>
References: <3FB848B9-5484-4AD4-AD69-46FE3A53ACF1@me.com>
Message-ID: <2EC82612-DA22-49BD-A249-CEF14EB8BB7E@arrl.net>

I too ran KX3 and KXPA100 off Bioenno LiFePO4 batteries.  Antenna was a 490? loop
tuned by iCom AH-4 using homebrew interface (powered by LiFEPO4 battery.  I logged
142 Q?s on 40,20,15, and10 (SSB, CW, RTTY, and PSK).  What an amazing radio!  I am
only beginning to scratch the surface of what this rascal can do, but am loving it.  
73,

Art
K0ACP (1E, MI)
K0ACP at arrl.net

> On Jun 29, 2015, at 8:44 PM, James Bennett <w6jhb at me.com> wrote:
> 
> Wondering how many ops on this reflector had a KX3 station running this past weekend in Field Day? I had mine running five watts, along with a PX3, set up on our back patio. Ran a LiFePO4 battery and solar panel, along with a half-sized G5RV in inverted Vee mode, apex up 25 feet.
> 
> Conditions weren't great here (25 miles east of Sacramento) but still had fun and the KX3 performed quite well. The bulk of my QSO's were made on 40 and 20 meters. A handful on 15 and four on 80 meters. I listened, but heard ZERO stations on 10 meters either day. Ughhh....
> 
> Jim Bennett / W6JHB (1E, SV)
> Folsom, CA
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From sasimpson at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 22:31:50 2015
From: sasimpson at gmail.com (Scott Simpson)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 21:31:50 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 FD Operations?
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Ran my KX3, KXPA100, and PX3 off generator and worked digital on 15 and
20m.  Club was 5A.  Maybe I'll try to do 5 solar powered QRP contacts next
year to get those bonus points!

scott
sasimpson at gmail.com

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 9:12 PM, Arthur Peters <K0ACP at arrl.net> wrote:

> I too ran KX3 and KXPA100 off Bioenno LiFePO4 batteries.  Antenna was a
> 490? loop
> tuned by iCom AH-4 using homebrew interface (powered by LiFEPO4 battery.
> I logged
> 142 Q?s on 40,20,15, and10 (SSB, CW, RTTY, and PSK).  What an amazing
> radio!  I am
> only beginning to scratch the surface of what this rascal can do, but am
> loving it.
> 73,
>
> Art
> K0ACP (1E, MI)
> K0ACP at arrl.net
>
> > On Jun 29, 2015, at 8:44 PM, James Bennett <w6jhb at me.com> wrote:
> >
> > Wondering how many ops on this reflector had a KX3 station running this
> past weekend in Field Day? I had mine running five watts, along with a PX3,
> set up on our back patio. Ran a LiFePO4 battery and solar panel, along with
> a half-sized G5RV in inverted Vee mode, apex up 25 feet.
> >
> > Conditions weren't great here (25 miles east of Sacramento) but still
> had fun and the KX3 performed quite well. The bulk of my QSO's were made on
> 40 and 20 meters. A handful on 15 and four on 80 meters. I listened, but
> heard ZERO stations on 10 meters either day. Ughhh....
> >
> > Jim Bennett / W6JHB (1E, SV)
> > Folsom, CA
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From challinan at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 22:43:28 2015
From: challinan at gmail.com (Chris Hallinan)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 22:43:28 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 on 50 MHz - noise and possible harmonics
Message-ID: <CAME0jBT9onLTFxvWmNs=NGUuM=ZcoNOzoedr03YFs_KX9Nj+_A@mail.gmail.com>

I've been playing around with 50 MHz USB/CW down at the low end of the band
with a plain ol' dipole.  I'm curious about noise and birdies and other
people's experience, as I really don't know what to expect.

I have a steady S3/4 noise level at all frequencies with the preamp off,
jumping to solid S5 with the preamp engaged.  I have several strong signals
(probably harmonics of some interference??)  as follows listening in USB
mode, preamp off:

50.026: S4
50.057: S6
50.087: S5
50.117: S6
50.148: S6
50:178: S4
and more as I tune up. Notice the 30KHz spacing.

These are all steady 2-tone signals with perhaps a couple hundred hertz
difference in the two tones.  No variation with day/night or propagation as
far as I can tell.  They all disappear when the antenna is disconnected.

First, is my background noise level local or should that be expected on 50
MHz?  And what are these signals spaced every 30 KHz or so?

Could this be broadcast overload way up here on 50 MHz?  I do have a fairly
close 1580 KHz AM station broadcasting 1100 watts during daytime, and 110
at night, but I use an Array Solutions BCB filter.

What have others experienced?

Thanks and 73,

Chris
K1AY




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From bob at hogbytes.com  Mon Jun 29 22:49:24 2015
From: bob at hogbytes.com (Bob N3MNT)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 19:49:24 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 FD Operations?
In-Reply-To: <3FB848B9-5484-4AD4-AD69-46FE3A53ACF1@me.com>
References: <3FB848B9-5484-4AD4-AD69-46FE3A53ACF1@me.com>
Message-ID: <1435632564002-7604466.post@n2.nabble.com>

Our club ran all Elecraft equipment 4 KX3's and a K3 running 5 watts
battery/solar.  Did not do as well as last year but still a good wknd.




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From n8sbe at arrl.net  Mon Jun 29 22:49:48 2015
From: n8sbe at arrl.net (Dave New, N8SBE)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 19:49:48 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KSYN3A in FD
Message-ID: <20150629194948.1fa1e31b6b6b329ecc65be958babcc1f.6b59ac605e.wbe@email09.secureserver.net>


From edauer at law.du.edu  Mon Jun 29 23:20:50 2015
From: edauer at law.du.edu (Dauer, Edward)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 03:20:50 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] K3, KX3, and FD
In-Reply-To: <mailman.16662.1435623116.22967.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <D1B761EA.1096A%edauer@law.du.edu>

I used the K3-KPA500 on 10-15-20 during the day and the KX3-KXPA100 on 40
overnight, and so had a good chance to compare them, albeit subjectively
and on different bands at different times.  Both setups performed
flawlessly, and the K3?s new synths were impeccable at QRQ. While the K3
is clearly capable of more sophisticated signal manipulation than the KX3,
as a practical matter the receivers in the two were equally useful for the
FD runs (I operated 100% CW).  I could have used the KX3 receiver the
whole time and likely would not have accomplished any less.  Amazing, what
that little brick can do.  The PX3, however, is not the equal of the P3,
at least not for my operating style.  When the fixed tune becomes
available (I have not uploaded the beta version of the F/W) maybe that
will change, but without it the PX3 just isn?t as powerful a tool for me
as the P3 is.

As for conditions, from my operating position (at elevation 8,600 feet
just west of the Continental Divide in Colorado) conditions were
remarkably good for this part of the cycle and this season.  At about 1:30
local (19:30 Z) Sunday, however, the MUF seemed to drop like a rock.  Ten
meters went dead in a matter of minutes, except for  the NS path to LU/PY.
 15 followed it and then within 30 minutes or so 20 became very quiet, and
stayed that way until the contest period ended.  Did anyone else observe
the same?  The change in a short time was notable.

Ted, KN1CBR


>
>Message: 21
>Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 16:22:59 -0400
>From: Blair Bates <blairbates at gmail.com>
>To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KSYN3A in FD
>Message-ID:
>	<CANgBGxwaG20ME4syFjtbWgEx=ORtinjRaReVvZyPnmMUck=60Q at mail.gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
>Had the opportunity to operate two, different K3 transceivers, both with
>the new KSYN3A boards, during FD.
>
>A few CW observations:
>1.  The only way I became aware of a station moving close to me was when
>my
>"rate" dropped.  A glance at the P3, or opening up the receiver bandwidth,
>always revealed that somebody loud had moved in really close.  Since not
>everyone has K3 . . . my rate fell in what was QRM for other receivers.
>
>2.  The bands seemed really "big".  I was always able to quickly find a
>run
>frequency when moving from another band or mode.
>
>3.  In spite of rainstorms for about 23 hours of FD, the bands seemed
>quiet
>and lightning crackles were quite subdued.
>
>I'm sure that these observations are routine for experienced K3 users.
>For somebody who is still trying to decide, or is still feeding the piggy
>bank, the K3 has one H3LL of a receiver--especially when equipped with the
>KSYN3A board.
>
>73, K3YD


From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Mon Jun 29 23:39:07 2015
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 20:39:07 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] QRP RTTY
In-Reply-To: <r422Ps-1075i-4CC6CFE4E9BF4CEBA393CE709D9B7BCC@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
References: <r422Ps-1075i-4CC6CFE4E9BF4CEBA393CE709D9B7BCC@Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
Message-ID: <55920F5B.8030807@audiosystemsgroup.com>

On Mon,6/29/2015 6:04 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
> Jim is right about this one. However, there was a huge gap between the 
> RTTY world and the PSK world and it wasn't the technical differences 
> in the modes.

Thanks, Bill. That's sort of what I was expecting.

I ran 1A QRP Battery Solar with W6JTI and W6GJB. We made 830 CW QSOs and 
34 on SSB/FM (VHF). Our club's call is W6BX. Rig was a K3, of course. :)

73, Jim K9YC



From k5atg.aaron at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 23:50:51 2015
From: k5atg.aaron at gmail.com (Aaron Scott)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 22:50:51 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] Screensaver
Message-ID: <CADENs29B6dLiDKhrn-VxB+ULv+pZTVD5Ed4F--3kiCPuRmHPBA@mail.gmail.com>

I tried to download the screensavers from the Elecraft website but they are
in the wrong file format. Is there another place to get these screensavers
for Windows 7?

Aaron Scott
K5ATG

From emoss98133 at msn.com  Tue Jun 30 00:07:58 2015
From: emoss98133 at msn.com (KD7PY)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 21:07:58 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 on 50 MHz - noise and possible harmonics
In-Reply-To: <CAME0jBT9onLTFxvWmNs=NGUuM=ZcoNOzoedr03YFs_KX9Nj+_A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAME0jBT9onLTFxvWmNs=NGUuM=ZcoNOzoedr03YFs_KX9Nj+_A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1435637278641-7604471.post@n2.nabble.com>

If you are unlucky as me and live in the city you will have a high noise
level. during the morning hours my
noise level is S1 with the 2nd bar just blinking with the preamp in the K3
on. later in the day when everyone is home the noise goes to S3>S4 as the
load on the power grid goes up.

I checked my K3 on a dummy load and I found only a few birdies internal to
the K3
50.023
50.044
50.147.3

watching the birds on the P3 they move as I turn the VFO 
Interesting that I only hear the birds with the preamp in the K3 turned on
or off. with the external ARR preamp on I don't hear them, but with my 5 el
beam the noise is high enough that I only use the K3's preamp. I only notice
the bird at 50.147, the rest are below the noise floor with the antenna on.
 
the only way to check for internal birds in the K3 is to check it with a
dummy load connected.
you say that the birds are spaced 30 khz apart should tell you that some
device external to the K3 is causing them. a beam is very helpful in nulling
out the interference. it's best to check out your house 1st for the
offending device, unplug everything one at a time and check to see if they
are gone. 
Ed



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From k6um.elist at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 00:26:40 2015
From: k6um.elist at gmail.com (Steve Lund)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 21:26:40 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 on 50 MHz - noise and possible harmonics
In-Reply-To: <CAME0jBT9onLTFxvWmNs=NGUuM=ZcoNOzoedr03YFs_KX9Nj+_A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAME0jBT9onLTFxvWmNs=NGUuM=ZcoNOzoedr03YFs_KX9Nj+_A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALa16y6a0Kp6iombETv+oVbTq+nMbKZzfoGDMpGEY99s53eaoQ@mail.gmail.com>

I have all these spurious signals in my K3, too.

They are caused by my wireless router. But are the result of using wired
connections to my office computers. When I remove the LAN cables these
signals disappear, along with many on the hf bands.

I have received the ferrites recommended by K9YC. The plan is to install
them on Wednesday. I have both the #43 and #61 material.

Steve, K6UM

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Chris Hallinan <challinan at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've been playing around with 50 MHz USB/CW down at the low end of the band
> with a plain ol' dipole.  I'm curious about noise and birdies and other
> people's experience, as I really don't know what to expect.
>
> I have a steady S3/4 noise level at all frequencies with the preamp off,
> jumping to solid S5 with the preamp engaged.  I have several strong signals
> (probably harmonics of some interference??)  as follows listening in USB
> mode, preamp off:
>
> 50.026: S4
> 50.057: S6
> 50.087: S5
> 50.117: S6
> 50.148: S6
> 50:178: S4
> and more as I tune up. Notice the 30KHz spacing.
>
> These are all steady 2-tone signals with perhaps a couple hundred hertz
> difference in the two tones.  No variation with day/night or propagation as
> far as I can tell.  They all disappear when the antenna is disconnected.
>
> First, is my background noise level local or should that be expected on 50
> MHz?  And what are these signals spaced every 30 KHz or so?
>
> Could this be broadcast overload way up here on 50 MHz?  I do have a fairly
> close 1580 KHz AM station broadcasting 1100 watts during daytime, and 110
> at night, but I use an Array Solutions BCB filter.
>
> What have others experienced?
>
> Thanks and 73,
>
> Chris
> K1AY
>
>
>
>
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From rtavan at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 01:06:27 2015
From: rtavan at gmail.com (Rick Tavan N6XI)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 22:06:27 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 FD Operations?
In-Reply-To: <3FB848B9-5484-4AD4-AD69-46FE3A53ACF1@me.com>
References: <3FB848B9-5484-4AD4-AD69-46FE3A53ACF1@me.com>
Message-ID: <CANVONA+9fAszRepVHTh-p_8KADXsnjYOmxn3FvJCHR4LuZwEGA@mail.gmail.com>

K7MS was a KX3+KXPA100, the GOTA station alongside 2A K6NV, making about
300 GOTA QSOs, I think all SSB. I was in the main station and wasn't
allowed to use the GOTA station but the GOTA guys were all smiling.

/Rick

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:44 PM, James Bennett <w6jhb at me.com> wrote:

> Wondering how many ops on this reflector had a KX3 station running this
> past weekend in Field Day? I had mine running five watts, along with a PX3,
> set up on our back patio. Ran a LiFePO4 battery and solar panel, along with
> a half-sized G5RV in inverted Vee mode, apex up 25 feet.
>
> Conditions weren't great here (25 miles east of Sacramento) but still had
> fun and the KX3 performed quite well. The bulk of my QSO's were made on 40
> and 20 meters. A handful on 15 and four on 80 meters. I listened, but heard
> ZERO stations on 10 meters either day. Ughhh....
>
> Jim Bennett / W6JHB (1E, SV)
> Folsom, CA
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Truckee, CA

From hormuth at mpia.eu  Tue Jun 30 08:16:35 2015
From: hormuth at mpia.eu (Felix Hormuth)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 14:16:35 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 PA temperature reading jumps / hot smell
Message-ID: <6d89f38f3389486403eea5d4748da171.squirrel@webmail2.mpia.eu>

Dear all,

my K3 (S/N 8862) is developing a strange behaviour that is beginning
to worry me a bit... Current firmware, assembled as kit, power
calibration just repeated to be sure.

First -- and this is not really new -- from time to time it produces
a smell that is best described as 'hot', like in hot resistor, hot
transistor and similar. I've never managed to track down the source,
though it seems to be related to output power. Sometimes it appeared
after just 1 minute of operation (the maximum I do is 100W RTTY with
short QSOs and never more than 50% duty cycle) and was then gone
for the rest of the day, sometimes it started a bit later, and sometimes
it never appeared. The PA temperature was always fine in these cases,
below 50 degC max. Now this smell seems to be increasing and I'm
worried some real damage might develop.
The second new issue is that during TX the PA temperature reading
increases quite fast and then when switching back to RX *immediately*
drops back by several deg C.
Example:

- start at PA temp = 33C
- transmit 90W RTTY for 30s on 14MHz into dummy load
--> temperature increases to 43 deg C
- back to RX: temperature drops down instantly to 35 deg C

Now the funny thing is: if I do that on 10MHz, it behaves
completely normal. Temperature increase is just 2C, no drop at the end.
That's how it was on 20m in the past as well.
On 15m somewhere in between (+4, and then drop by 2), then on 12m and
higher again back to normal.

Anyone with similar observations? Any ideas what to check or test or do?

Man thanks for any help,
vy 73, Felix DL2FHO






From brians at fl240.com  Tue Jun 30 08:54:39 2015
From: brians at fl240.com (Brian Sheets)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 12:54:39 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] FS: Factory built KX3 with Accessories
Message-ID: <D1B7EDAD.52133%brians@fl240.com>

I need to fund the downpayment on a new (to me) vehicle so the KX3 has to go.

Factory Built Serial Number 1366
Excellent Condition Current Firmware
Non-Smoker owned, no scratches dents or otherwise
Gem products side KX endplates & dust cover (original end pieces included too)
Think Tank padded lens case to keep it safe

All original boxes and manual

All currently available options (except 2M module)
KX3-PCKT Accessory Cable Set
USB Cable
KXAT3 ATU for the KX3
KXBC3 Internal NiMH Charger and RTC
Eneloop NiMH AA batteries
KXFL3 Dual-Passband Roofing Filter
KXPD3 Paddle with KXPD3 Upgrade Kit (not installed)
MH3 Hand Mic
XG3 Signal Generator
pignology piglet and serial cable allows wireless control from iPad or Android
Pro Audio Engineering Heat sink (no paint removed)

This has been thermal calibrated using the XG3

I'd like to get $1400 + shipping, double boxed and insured. Paypal only.

I also have a Icom IC-7000 mobile package with Tarheel II and Tune Controller if anyone is interested.

Brian KA7KDX






From elecraft at mailman.qth.net  Tue Jun 30 09:53:53 2015
From: elecraft at mailman.qth.net (Harry Yingst via Elecraft)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 13:53:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 PA temperature reading jumps / hot smell
In-Reply-To: <6d89f38f3389486403eea5d4748da171.squirrel@webmail2.mpia.eu>
References: <6d89f38f3389486403eea5d4748da171.squirrel@webmail2.mpia.eu>
Message-ID: <1006327853.2391068.1435672433443.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

possible issue in the Low Pass Filter


      From: Felix Hormuth <hormuth at mpia.eu>
 To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:16 AM
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 PA temperature reading jumps / hot smell
   
Dear all,

my K3 (S/N 8862) is developing a strange behaviour that is beginning
to worry me a bit... Current firmware, assembled as kit, power
calibration just repeated to be sure.

First -- and this is not really new -- from time to time it produces
a smell that is best described as 'hot', like in hot resistor, hot
transistor and similar. I've never managed to track down the source,
though it seems to be related to output power. Sometimes it appeared
after just 1 minute of operation (the maximum I do is 100W RTTY with
short QSOs and never more than 50% duty cycle) and was then gone
for the rest of the day, sometimes it started a bit later, and sometimes
it never appeared. The PA temperature was always fine in these cases,
below 50 degC max. Now this smell seems to be increasing and I'm
worried some real damage might develop.
The second new issue is that during TX the PA temperature reading
increases quite fast and then when switching back to RX *immediately*
drops back by several deg C.
Example:

- start at PA temp = 33C
- transmit 90W RTTY for 30s on 14MHz into dummy load
--> temperature increases to 43 deg C
- back to RX: temperature drops down instantly to 35 deg C

Now the funny thing is: if I do that on 10MHz, it behaves
completely normal. Temperature increase is just 2C, no drop at the end.
That's how it was on 20m in the past as well.
On 15m somewhere in between (+4, and then drop by 2), then on 12m and
higher again back to normal.

Anyone with similar observations? Any ideas what to check or test or do?

Man thanks for any help,
vy 73, Felix DL2FHO





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From k6ll.dave at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 09:59:09 2015
From: k6ll.dave at gmail.com (Dave Hachadorian)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 06:59:09 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 PA temperature reading jumps / hot smell
In-Reply-To: <6d89f38f3389486403eea5d4748da171.squirrel@webmail2.mpia.eu>
References: <6d89f38f3389486403eea5d4748da171.squirrel@webmail2.mpia.eu>
Message-ID: <BC82729DED7445F8B934757616E68A72@Toshiba>

The 20 meter temperature increase sounds normal to me.  The 10 
MHz and 21 MHz behavior is a little strange.  Here is a link to a 
PA temp experiment that I conducted on both of my K3's:
http://marc.info/?l=elecraft&m=128534687205664&w=2

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ


-----Original Message----- 
From: Felix Hormuth
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:16 AM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 PA temperature reading jumps / hot smell

Dear all,

my K3 (S/N 8862) is developing a strange behaviour that is 
beginning
to worry me a bit... Current firmware, assembled as kit, power
calibration just repeated to be sure.

First -- and this is not really new -- from time to time it 
produces
a smell that is best described as 'hot', like in hot resistor, 
hot
transistor and similar. I've never managed to track down the 
source,
though it seems to be related to output power. Sometimes it 
appeared
after just 1 minute of operation (the maximum I do is 100W RTTY 
with
short QSOs and never more than 50% duty cycle) and was then gone
for the rest of the day, sometimes it started a bit later, and 
sometimes
it never appeared. The PA temperature was always fine in these 
cases,
below 50 degC max. Now this smell seems to be increasing and I'm
worried some real damage might develop.
The second new issue is that during TX the PA temperature reading
increases quite fast and then when switching back to RX 
*immediately*
drops back by several deg C.
Example:

- start at PA temp = 33C
- transmit 90W RTTY for 30s on 14MHz into dummy load
--> temperature increases to 43 deg C
- back to RX: temperature drops down instantly to 35 deg C

Now the funny thing is: if I do that on 10MHz, it behaves
completely normal. Temperature increase is just 2C, no drop at 
the end.
That's how it was on 20m in the past as well.
On 15m somewhere in between (+4, and then drop by 2), then on 12m 
and
higher again back to normal.

Anyone with similar observations? Any ideas what to check or test 
or do?

Man thanks for any help,
vy 73, Felix DL2FHO





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From mzilmer at roadrunner.com  Tue Jun 30 10:29:48 2015
From: mzilmer at roadrunner.com (Matt Zilmer)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 07:29:48 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3, KX3, and FD
In-Reply-To: <D1B761EA.1096A%edauer@law.du.edu>
References: <mailman.16662.1435623116.22967.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
	<D1B761EA.1096A%edauer@law.du.edu>
Message-ID: <o095pa1hli8fr0pe8st1v1v5ml338m4fn2@4ax.com>

Ted,

Just a couple of comments:

Our 2A station used a barefoot K3 throughout FD 2015.  This one is a
newer unit (#7811) with recently-installed KSYN3As.  We operated QRQ
100%, at around 25 WPM for 17 hours.  I noticed the same improved
performance you did.  I'd used an older K3 (#24) with new synthesizers
for a number of months but hadn't put it in a competitive setting like
FD.  Our other station (Kewwood-something-or-other) operator never
complained when we were running on the same band.  But of course if he
accidentally put the Kenwood into TX, he obliterated our RX.  The
KSYN3A's phase noise improvement makes a great tool for multi-station
ops on the same band.  The two stations' antennas were only about 150
feet apart.

The K3 retains its rock star status in the ham world, through constant
improvement.

I also noticed the changed conditions on Sunday morning (6 AM through
Noon, Pacific Time).  20m started weak out here, and 10m opened only a
little bit before FD ended.  I saw 10m shut down, then 15m get very
watery, and finally it was even difficult to get any new action on 20m
right near the end.

73,
matt
W6NIA

On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 03:20:50 +0000, you wrote:

>I used the K3-KPA500 on 10-15-20 during the day and the KX3-KXPA100 on 40
>overnight, and so had a good chance to compare them, albeit subjectively
>and on different bands at different times.  Both setups performed
>flawlessly, and the K3?s new synths were impeccable at QRQ. 
<snip>
>
>As for conditions, from my operating position (at elevation 8,600 feet
>just west of the Continental Divide in Colorado) conditions were
>remarkably good for this part of the cycle and this season.  At about 1:30
>local (19:30 Z) Sunday
<snip>

>Ted, KN1CBR
Matt Zilmer, W6NIA
--
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From mike at tropo.org  Tue Jun 30 12:48:52 2015
From: mike at tropo.org (Mike Murphree)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 11:48:52 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 on 50 MHz - noise and possible harmonics
In-Reply-To: <CALa16y6a0Kp6iombETv+oVbTq+nMbKZzfoGDMpGEY99s53eaoQ@mail.gmail.com>
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In recent testing of a new Cloud-IQ SDR, I found the same thing at home.
Two tones about 500 Hz apart and reoccurring at about the same interval.
I used my KX3 to track it down to the 100BASE-T ethernet cables.  The noise
floor on the SDR is <140 dB and was able to pick it up.

73
Mike N4MHO

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 11:26 PM, Steve Lund <k6um.elist at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have all these spurious signals in my K3, too.
>
> They are caused by my wireless router. But are the result of using wired
> connections to my office computers. When I remove the LAN cables these
> signals disappear, along with many on the hf bands.
>
> I have received the ferrites recommended by K9YC. The plan is to install
> them on Wednesday. I have both the #43 and #61 material.
>
> Steve, K6UM
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Chris Hallinan <challinan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I've been playing around with 50 MHz USB/CW down at the low end of the
> band
> > with a plain ol' dipole.  I'm curious about noise and birdies and other
> > people's experience, as I really don't know what to expect.
> >
> > I have a steady S3/4 noise level at all frequencies with the preamp off,
> > jumping to solid S5 with the preamp engaged.  I have several strong
> signals
> > (probably harmonics of some interference??)  as follows listening in USB
> > mode, preamp off:
> >
> > 50.026: S4
> > 50.057: S6
> > 50.087: S5
> > 50.117: S6
> > 50.148: S6
> > 50:178: S4
> > and more as I tune up. Notice the 30KHz spacing.
> >
> > These are all steady 2-tone signals with perhaps a couple hundred hertz
> > difference in the two tones.  No variation with day/night or propagation
> as
> > far as I can tell.  They all disappear when the antenna is disconnected.
> >
> > First, is my background noise level local or should that be expected on
> 50
> > MHz?  And what are these signals spaced every 30 KHz or so?
> >
> > Could this be broadcast overload way up here on 50 MHz?  I do have a
> fairly
> > close 1580 KHz AM station broadcasting 1100 watts during daytime, and 110
> > at night, but I use an Array Solutions BCB filter.
> >
> > What have others experienced?
> >
> > Thanks and 73,
> >
> > Chris
> > K1AY
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From jim at audiosystemsgroup.com  Tue Jun 30 13:08:04 2015
From: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 10:08:04 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 on 50 MHz - noise and possible harmonics
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On Mon,6/29/2015 9:26 PM, Steve Lund wrote:
> I have received the ferrites recommended by K9YC. The plan is to install
> them on Wednesday. I have both the #43 and #61 material

Hi Steve,

A clarification. #31 is the first weapon of choice for the HF bands -- 
it is effective from the AM broadcast band up to 50 MHz. #43 is slightly 
better above 10 MHz, but much less effective on 80 and 160M. #61 is NOT 
useful  to kill noise below 2M -- it's loss is far too low, low enough 
that it can be used for transformers that handle power at HF.

2-3 turns through a #31 or #43 core puts the choke in the range of 50 
MHz. Because you're using only 2-3 turns, more than one choke may be 
needed. The chokes go on both ends of all the cables connected to the 
router and the modem.

That gear often creates birdies on 30M, 20M, and the low end of 10M. 
Follow my guidelines for RG58/8X coax for these chokes. These birdies 
are created by clocks local to the router, and their frequencies are not 
precise (although they are crystal-controlled). If you have neighbors, 
you'll likely hear their routers too, a few hundred Hz from yours. To 
identify yours, kill power to it.

73, Jim K9YC

From skavanagh72 at yahoo.ca  Tue Jun 30 16:10:03 2015
From: skavanagh72 at yahoo.ca (Steve Kavanagh)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 20:10:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] [K2] Photo of Workaround for Failed K2 Headphone Jack
Message-ID: <98923292.2722553.1435695003506.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

The usual K2 headphone jack failure results in the speaker going dead.? To fix it requires replacing the jack, but a workaround is to short two pads together.? The speaker will then run all the time, whether or not there are headphones plugged into the front of the rig.? The speaker can be cut off by inserting a plug into the external speaker jack or by a switch.? I put a photo showing which pads to jumper together on my web page.?The link (and brief text) are?near the bottom of this page:?http://www.qsl.net/ve3sma/downloads2.html?while the photo itself is at?http://www.qsl.net/ve3sma/K2HeadphoneJackSwitchBypass.jpg?Thanks to Don, W3FPR, for identifying the correct pads for me.?73,Steve VE3SMA

From skavanagh72 at yahoo.ca  Tue Jun 30 16:14:42 2015
From: skavanagh72 at yahoo.ca (Steve Kavanagh)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 20:14:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Elecraft] [K2] Photo of Workaround for Failed K2 Headphone Jack
Message-ID: <879036382.2701614.1435695282759.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

Hmmm....mailman and Yahoo?between them?have managed to mangle the links...they should be?http://www.qsl.net/ve3sma/downloads2.html? ,?while the photo itself is at?http://www.qsl.net/ve3sma/K2HeadphoneJackSwitchBypass.jpg? . ??Hope that works better.?Steve VE3SMA
?

From plcmark at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 17:35:20 2015
From: plcmark at gmail.com (Mark Bayern)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 16:35:20 -0500
Subject: [Elecraft] [K2] Photo of Workaround for Failed K2 Headphone Jack
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Nope, in the email I received your links work just fine.

Mark  AD5SS

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Steve Kavanagh <skavanagh72 at yahoo.ca> wrote:
> Hmmm....mailman and Yahoo between them have managed to mangle the links...they should be http://www.qsl.net/ve3sma/downloads2.html  , while the photo itself is at http://www.qsl.net/ve3sma/K2HeadphoneJackSwitchBypass.jpg  .   Hope that works better. Steve VE3SMA
>
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From 99sunset at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 18:38:11 2015
From: 99sunset at gmail.com (Steve Hall)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 18:38:11 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] Field day
Message-ID: <CALdUqNNs+cejga3D8qES-O1y76-LN-_v0CS9VtMYCo7eCbmG2Q@mail.gmail.com>

Two of us shared a K3 on CW.  There were four other HF stations on digital
modes with very little antenna separation.  We were never even aware that
the other stations existed in the same building.  QRM was not a problem
unless multiple stations moved within a few Hertz of our receive
frequency.  Most impressive.
WM6P
Steve

From droese at necg.de  Tue Jun 30 19:21:59 2015
From: droese at necg.de (=?UTF-8?B?T2xpdmVyIERyw7ZzZQ==?=)
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 01:21:59 +0200
Subject: [Elecraft] Filters & KRX3 for sale
Message-ID: <55932497.5000601@necg.de>

Hi guys,

currently stripping down one of my K3's for a friend thus have a few 
original Elecraft high performance 8 pole filters surplus to my needs now.

Available for sale:
KFL3A-250
KFL3A-400 (2 pieces)
KFL3A-1.0K
KFL3A-2.8K

Asking 99 EUR each, Europe/Germany preferred but will also ship 
worldwide if neccessary. ;-)

For sale, too, is a KRX3 for 399 EUR.

Please answer off list.

73, Olli - DH8BQA

-- 

Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de



From dave at eksfiles.net  Tue Jun 30 20:52:33 2015
From: dave at eksfiles.net (David Ek)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 18:52:33 -0600
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 FD Operations?
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References: <mailman.16827.1435703901.22967.elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <559339D1.8000300@eksfiles.net>

John N0HJ and Steve N0MHQ joined me Saturday afternoon on the deck of 
our recently-purchased home in the mountains of Woodland Park, CO to 
make a few FD contacts with my KX3. First time I've had the chance to 
get on HF since last fall, thanks to all the activities associated with 
selling one house and then buying and moving into another. John brought 
his pneumatic launcher which did a wonderful job of putting a line over 
a tree near the deck and hoisting my half-size G5RV in an inverted V 
configuration. I ran the KX3 off a gel cel at about 10W and made mostly 
CW contacts but also a few on SSB, all on 20 m. Had a real pipeline to 
CA early, but then bagged a few east coast stations later in the day. I 
think the three of us (and my wife) spent as much time yakking as we did 
operating, but it was a great afternoon. The KX3 was a dream to operate, 
although all I did was spin the tuning knob and occasionally tweak the 
filter.

73, Dave NK0E

On 6/30/2015 4:38 PM, elecraft-request at mailman.qth.net wrote:
> Wondering how many ops on this reflector had a KX3 station running this past weekend in Field Day? I had mine running five watts, along with a PX3, set up on our back patio. Ran a LiFePO4 battery and solar panel, along with a half-sized G5RV in inverted Vee mode, apex up 25 feet.
>
> Conditions weren't great here (25 miles east of Sacramento) but still had fun and the KX3 performed quite well. The bulk of my QSO's were made on 40 and 20 meters. A handful on 15 and four on 80 meters. I listened, but heard ZERO stations on 10 meters either day. Ughhh....
>
> Jim Bennett / W6JHB (1E, SV)
> Folsom, CA


From k6jw at arrl.net  Tue Jun 30 21:12:44 2015
From: k6jw at arrl.net (Jeffrey Wolf)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 18:12:44 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 134, Issue 30
In-Reply-To: <mmmt1q01Q0arUQo01mmupj>
References: <mmmt1q01Q0arUQo01mmupj>
Message-ID: <55933E8C.8080904@arrl.net>

I, too, ran my KX3 for FD: 5 watts, battery power. From LAX I was able 
to work both Hawaii and the East Coast. Amazing what 5 watts and CW can do.
--Jeff, K6JW

From k7jltextra at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 22:09:12 2015
From: k7jltextra at gmail.com (John K7JLT)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 19:09:12 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] FD K2, K3's & KX3
Message-ID: <e5paag45uc9qahet6b23sty5.1435716552198@email.android.com>

Worked field day this year with my KX3 setup on 80 & 15 meters.
Nice to be able to operate CW Digital & SSB simultaneously on the same band with very small antenna separations. 
Thanks Elecraft for the bata Fixed mode for the PX3, worked well, however I would like to see an adjustment added that would allow a gain/frequency adjustment to make the passband look flatter when one is near the edge of the display &  I still have a problem with a false peak 600 Hz off frequency on the display in CW mode even after the recommended adjustments.

John K7JLT

From brians at fl240.com  Tue Jun 30 22:55:21 2015
From: brians at fl240.com (Brian Sheets)
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 02:55:21 +0000
Subject: [Elecraft] FS: Factory built KX3 with Accessories
Message-ID: <D1B8B29C.522BC%brians@fl240.com>

Both the KX3 and the IC-7000 have been sold. Thanks for playing :)

B


On 6/30/15, 6:54 AM, "Brian Sheets" <brians at fl240.com> wrote:

>I need to fund the downpayment on a new (to me) vehicle so the KX3 has to
>go.
>
>Factory Built Serial Number 1366
>Excellent Condition Current Firmware
>Non-Smoker owned, no scratches dents or otherwise
>Gem products side KX endplates & dust cover (original end pieces included
>too)
>Think Tank padded lens case to keep it safe
>
>All original boxes and manual
>
>All currently available options (except 2M module)
>KX3-PCKT Accessory Cable Set
>USB Cable
>KXAT3 ATU for the KX3
>KXBC3 Internal NiMH Charger and RTC
>Eneloop NiMH AA batteries
>KXFL3 Dual-Passband Roofing Filter
>KXPD3 Paddle with KXPD3 Upgrade Kit (not installed)
>MH3 Hand Mic
>XG3 Signal Generator
>pignology piglet and serial cable allows wireless control from iPad or
>Android
>Pro Audio Engineering Heat sink (no paint removed)
>
>This has been thermal calibrated using the XG3
>
>I'd like to get $1400 + shipping, double boxed and insured. Paypal only.
>
>I also have a Icom IC-7000 mobile package with Tarheel II and Tune
>Controller if anyone is interested.
>
>Brian KA7KDX
>
>
>
>
>
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From kp4md at cfmilazzo.com  Tue Jun 30 23:16:34 2015
From: kp4md at cfmilazzo.com (Carol F. Milazzo, KP4MD/W6)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 20:16:34 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft]  KX3 FD Operations?
Message-ID: <CAHdU+vdOUfRafShSzCVs8Q=2OGJht0vL6TjCX-cY3VwsiHr-GA@mail.gmail.com>

I used the KX3 on 40 meter CW and PSK31 with Win4K3 software, DigiPan, an
HF Packer Amplifier and 40 meter Loop Skywire at the River City ARCS Field
Day in Rio Linda, CA.
The power source were 105 Ah of sealed lead acid batteries and 90 watt
solar panel.
Some photos are at
https://picasaweb.google.com/114032640816757126398/FieldDayStation
Carol, KP4MD @ N6NA Field Day Station