[Elecraft] Lids running RTTY on the JT65 Frequency

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

On 2015-01-05 2:36 PM, Wes (N7WS) wrote:
> I agree with both of you.  If you want to use (and brag about) modes
> where you (your computer) work signals inaudible to human beings then
> you should not complain when those same human beings don't know your
> computer is using the frequency.

This has progressed past the "OT limit" but the issue isn't QRM to
signals "inaudible to human beings" ... it is QRM to signals that
*ARE* audible but using a different and incompatible encoding system.
The RTTY operators are transmitting where they know (or should know)
that other protocols are regularly used *without listening* for the
other activity.

Contesters do not have a "priority right" to any frequency they want
and should be expected to listen long enough to determine whether the
frequency is occupied and go someplace else if it is - contest or not.
With JT65/JT9, it takes *at least* 70 seconds of listening to be sure
to catch either side of a QSO.  Listen for 5 seconds at 50 seconds
into the minute and the entire JT65/JT9 "segment" is going to sound
unused ... but that's not the fact.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-01-05 2:36 PM, Wes (N7WS) wrote:
> I agree with both of you.  If you want to use (and brag about) modes
> where you (your computer) work signals inaudible to human beings then
> you should not complain when those same human beings don't know your
> computer is using the frequency.
>
> Wes  N7WS
>
>
> On 1/5/2015 12:23 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>> On Mon,1/5/2015 10:54 AM, David Cole wrote:
>>> To expect the worldwide Amateur Radio community, to clear out space on
>>> every band, for the few hundred JT users, on the off chance someone
>>> might be transmitting, is simply insane and selfish.
>>
>> I've made a lot of QSOs using the WSJT modes, but I wouldn't dream of
>> doing so when a contest is occupying the same space. The same is true
>> of CW or SSB on contesting bands during a contest. We hams have a lot
>> of spectrum, but none of us owns any frequency, either individually or
>> as a group. Contest organizers intentionally avoid the WARC bands, and
>> RTTY contesting intentionally avoids 160M. Someone who wants to work
>> JT65 or PSK31 on HF during a RTTY contest can QSY to 160M, 30M, 17M,
>> or 12M. So can CW operators. At least one of these bands will usually
>> be open enough to have fun.
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>> ______________________________________________________________
>>
>
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