[Elecraft] KX3 - Adjustable RTY/PSK Idle Timeout

Don Wilhelm don at w3fpr.com
Wed Feb 25 15:30:14 EST 2015


John,

It sounds like you have accomplished a workaround the problem of N1MM 
not being able to send either the 0x04 or the 'pipe' character (|).  
That is an N1MM failing IMHO and not something that the KX3 (or the K3) 
should make provisions for.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/25/2015 10:02 AM, John Huggins, kx4o wrote:
> Hi Don.
>
> I'm aware of the IM feature and I do make use of it during casual use.
> However, I'm trying to make the most of the CAT sending capability of the
> KX3 and USB cable in a contesting/event situation (like Field Day) using
> N1MM, but without audio interfacing.
>
> For N1MM macros can one embed this "IM" into a KY command string without
> it becoming an I followed by an M?  I did try this, but it just comes out
> I and M as I suspected it would.  On another KX3 group, Wayne mentioned
> other methods including sending 0x04 and using a | symbol.  Neither seems
> to work in the N1MM macro context.
>
> The good news is I have successfully programmed the macro to terminate
> right after sending using this N1MM macro string designed for the VaQP...
>
> F1 Run CQ,{CATA1ASC KY CQ VQP CQ VQP;}{CATA1ASC KYW DE {MYCALL}{MYCALL}
> QRZ;}{CATA1ASC RX;}
>
> This nicely waits to execute that last "RX" command till after the last
> character is sent to the KX3, but the RX executes immediately cutting off
> that last character mid transmit.  Somewhere somehow I need to introduce a
> delay between the last character sent and the execution of the RX command
> long enough to finish transmitting that last character in RTTY or PSK31.
> As I understand it, a RTTY character takes about 165 milliseconds to
> transmit and the worst case PSK31 character (10 bits) takes about 313
> milliseconds.
>
> There are several potential solutions.
>
> First I would never want the RX command to change since having something
> that instantly takes the KX3 out of transmit is a good thing.  So a new
> command (i.e. RXABE - RX after buffer empty?) that puts the KX3 into
> receive only after the character buffer has completed transmission might
> be nice.
>
> I suspect the simplest solution of all is for me to eliminate the RX
> command in the N1MM macro string and the KX3 provide a method to adjust
> that 4 second idle time to user preference.  This could be:
>
>    DATA_IDLE_TIME: 4s (default), 2s, 1s, 0.5s, etc.
>
> ...or maybe...
>
>    DATA_IDLE_TIME: 4s (default), ASAP
>
>    Where ASAP = 200 milliseconds for RTTY and 400 milliseconds for PSK31
>
> At this point, I'd be happy with a 1 second idle time option to complement
> the 4s ragchew default.
>
> All hail software defined radios where feature requests like this actually
> have a possibility of implementation.
>
> John, kx4o
>
> On Wed, February 25, 2015 05:08, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> John,
>>
>>
>> Send the IM character to stop transmission immediately.  That is sent as
>> a prosign would be - dit dit dah dah, and not as 2 letters. If you have
>> trouble sending it correctly, think of it as sending the numeral 2 without
>> the last dah. You can also imbed that character in memories.  It will not
>> send anything in CW, but will end transmission immediately in data modes.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>>
>> On 2/24/2015 9:32 PM, John wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>> Is the default 4 second idle timeout in the KX3's built-in keyer
>>> RTTY/PSK31 transmit feature something we can adjust to, say, 1/2
>>> second?  It seems all too often a response is well underway by the time
>>> the transmission ends in quick QSO conditions.
>>>
>
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