[Elecraft] "Cheap Hams" ???

Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft eric at elecraft.com
Tue Apr 21 23:33:43 EDT 2015


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> On Apr 21, 2015, at 8:13 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE <n5ge at n5ge.com> wrote:
> 
> OK, now that all of you have told us how good your vocabulary is, can
> we end this thread, or do you have more definitization to share with
> us?
> 
> Amateur Radio Operator 
> N5GE
> 
> In memory of our Grandfather, 
> Arch Hinson, a WWI veteran who 
> engaged in battle against The Hun
> at Saint-Mihiel, France, in 1918
> and survived.
> 
> 73
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Saint-Mihiel#Background:_Saint-Mihiel_salient
> 
>> On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 22:42:04 -0400, you wrote:
>> 
>> OOPS! I apologize for using that 4 syllable 'd' word.  It was part of my
>> liberal arts education in non-government schools.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
>> Kenneth Talbott
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 10:37 PM
>> To: 'Phil Wheeler'; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] "Cheap Hams" ???
>> 
>> Anyone who think hams are not cheap has obviously never tried to sell
>> anything at a hamfest.  The dichotomy is that hams are the cheapest and at
>> the same time the most generous community of people with whom I have ever
>> associated.  The same ham who will give a piece of equipment to a newbie
>> will haggle over dimes at the next swap meet.   Perhaps this is part of the
>> allure.
>> 73 de ken ke4rg
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil
>> Wheeler
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 9:53 PM
>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] "Cheap Hams" ???
>> 
>> How about: Hams are sensible when it comes to spending money? I like to
>> think so in general, even if/when I am not :-)
>> 
>> 73, Phil W7OX
>> 
>>> On 4/21/15 6:44 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>> What you are referring to is " Hams helping other hams", and that is 
>>> completely opposite the "hams are cheap" end of things.
>>> Think about the hams who are quite willing to spend $3000 on their ham 
>>> gear and do not want to spend $75 on a dummy load (or other 
>>> accessory).
>>> That is the main reason for the opinion that "hams are cheap".
>>> 
>>> I have been through those "cheap ham days" out of necessity when the 
>>> family needs came first and there was not enough extra to spend on ham 
>>> gear.  Those days are gone now that the kids are on their own. But 
>>> then in those days, I did not spend $3000 for a ham rig either.
>>> 
>>> I was once there where I did the best bargaining that I could for ham 
>>> gear and appealed to my other ham friends for their discards. Those 
>>> days are behind me, and I can now afford top of the line gear.  I do 
>>> reserve some funds for top of the line test gear and other additions 
>>> to the hamshack that will provide me with the proper tools to keep my 
>>> hamshack in order.
>>> 
>>> Yes, I have been 'thrifty', but not at the expense of having proper 
>>> tools to evaluate my ham station.  A dummy load and an antenna 
>>> analyzer are on the top end of my list of desired gear for any ham 
>>> station.  Other gear may be helpful, but not essential.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>> 
>>>> On 4/21/2015 9:15 PM, G4GNX wrote:
>>>> It's generally been accepted for many years that if one ham has a 
>>>> component that he doesn't need and another ham wants it, it will 
>>>> usually be given for free. This culture has grown from the days when 
>>>> most shack equipment was homebrew.
>>>> Hams also tend to help each other with projects, antenna farming 
>>>> etc., usually without payment.
>>>> At our local club, members often bring unwanted items along for 
>>>> distribution, mostly for free.
>>>> Sometimes if an item has some higher value, a donation to club funds 
>>>> is expected.
>>>> Like other hobbies, we have "junk sales", where valued equipment can 
>>>> sometimes be sold for silly prices.
>>>> 
>>>> I think that the above is where the "cheap" 
>>>> label has emerged from. I prefer to think of hams as "thrifty". :-)
>> 
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