[Elecraft] Question K3 ALC w/SPE Expert 1.3K-FA amp

Joe Subich, W4TV lists at subich.com
Fri Apr 3 20:54:15 EDT 2015


 > not " The Owner of a NEW "

Since the SPE Expert 1.3K-FA is a brand new amplifier which only
received type acceptance recently, "Owner of a NEW" applies.

The op admitted that to me in a separate - off list - e-mail that
included performance data on other 1.3K-FA amplifiers specifically
as well as a previous Expert 1K-FA.

The issue is that SPE are importing amplifiers that do not meet
the type acceptance requirements (are not the same as represented
by the data filed for type acceptance) .  I challenge the FCC to
do something about it - to sanction both SPE and SPE's distributors
in the US.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-04-03 8:34 PM, tnnyswy at yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Quote " I am the proud new owner of a new K3. I am also the proud new owner of an SPE Expert 1.3K-FA solid state amp " end of Quote!
> Please  NOTE " New Owner "  not " The Owner of a NEW " The Op was very CLEAR.
> JUDGEMENT was passed !
> I rest my case.
>
> ((((73)))) Milverton / W9MMS
>
>        From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists at subich.com>
>   To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>   Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 7:09 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Question K3 ALC w/SPE Expert 1.3K-FA amp
>
>
>   > IF! If the Amp was not bought from a local (USA) Commercial vendor,
>   > no harm was done.
>
> The op indicated he purchased the amplifier from (one of) the US
> distributors for SPE and that others who had purchased amplifiers
> from SPE through their US distribution channels reported the same
> high gain.
>
> Those amplifiers are *not legal for sale in the USA* - they do not
> meet the terms of their type acceptance.  The rules also state that
> *nobody* is permitted to modify amplifiers *commercially* (e.g., a
> distributor for SPE) so that they are not compliant with the type
> acceptance.  An individual amateur may make or modify *for his own*
> *use*, at most, *one* of a given model amplifier in any year.
>
> When it comes to playing by the rules, there is no "Joe being Joe"
> so back off.
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 2015-04-03 7:56 PM, Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft wrote:
>> WHY is everyone getting their panties in a wad?!!!!!!
>> Joe was just being Joe.
>> His reply had nothing to do with the OP original question.
>>
>> BTW. ....... The rule states " not to be Sold Commercially "
>>
>> IF! If the Amp was not bought from a local (USA) Commercial vendor, no harm was done.
>> He could have obtain it from another Lic Operator. There is no Rule stating he cannot have an SPE Expert 1.3K - FA Amp in his possession.
>> LIGHTEN up, this is a Hobby.
>>
>>
>> ((((73)))) Milverton / W9MMS.
>>
>>
>>
>>          From: Phil Kane <k2asp at kanafi.org>
>>    To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>    Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 5:56 PM
>>    Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Question K3 ALC w/SPE Expert 1.3K-FA amp
>>
>> On 4/3/2015 3:01 PM, Oliver Dröse wrote:
>>
>>> Of course I'm just bound to German law which does not contain any
>>> "stupid" (pardon me, but it is!) amplification limits, just the maximum
>>> allowed power. How we generate it is up to us radio amateurs overhere.
>>
>> It's not "stupid" when you become aware of the history.  At one time
>> there were no amplification limits.  The problem wasn't with the amateur
>> community.  The problem was with the renegade CB community that was
>> using the available high-gain amplifiers improperly and in violation of
>> US law and with the manufacturers who were catering to them.  The
>> problems that were created became an enforcement nightmare consuming too
>> much of the available enforcement resources.  There had to be some
>> technical limits that we could use as an enforcement benchmark on the
>> manufacturing level before the devices got into the wrong hands.  I
>> don't know if the same problems existed in the European ham communities
>> but it was overwhelming here.
>>
>> Disclaimer -  I spent three decades on the FCC enforcement staff
>> directing, inter alia, local CB enforcement including locating, shutting
>> down, seizing, and forfeiting illegal CB equipment and assessing
>> monetary forfeiture penalties to the operators, manufacturers, and
>> dealer.  I know that field quite well.
>>
>> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
>> Elecraft K2/100  s/n 5402
>>
>>    From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
>> Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
>>
>>
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