[Elecraft] Elecraft's linux utilities - somewhat OT, or maybe not

[briana]

Sorry, but I'm not the least bit interested in building the starting 
system for my car or understanding the workings of my car in order to be 
able to start and drive it.  It is a tool not a project for me.   Ditto 
computers.

The tool shouldn't get in the way of its use.

Look at how many people are struggling with canned operating systems.   
Imagine saddling hem with LUNIX.  Not going to happen.   I also suspect 
the 2% of LUNIX users will shrink with time.

I applaud those of you who manage to do anything in LUNIX.   I also 
applaud those who can speak foreign languages.

73 de Brian/K3KO

On 5/27/2014 11:32 PM, Doug Person via Elecraft wrote:
> He didn't know me but I knew him.  Computers have been and to a large 
> extent still are my life.  When I'm done building another receiver, I 
> build another computer and install another linux variation.  I push 
> them to their limits.  Windows, in many ways, is always easier for 
> main stream things.  However, the other day, I pushed then "Scan" 
> button on my multi-function printer to scan a photo, and Windows 8.1 
> Enterprise simply stopped responding to user actions.  I couldn't even 
> tell it to reboot.  I had hit the power switch and restart it.  
> Windows, regardless of the version, still has lots and lots of 
> problems.  It really is very unstable.
>
> It has gotten better, but has a LONG way to go to catch up to OS/X for 
> example - which exemplifies "Stable".  Apple really does have a higher 
> focus on stability and ease of use than Microsoft. Windows 8 is the 
> biggest disaster Microsoft has ever managed to pull off. Makes Vista 
> look like a success story.  Windows 9 is due out the end of next 
> year.  Your guess is as good as mine what their plans are.
>
> Linux is a work of art produced by thousands of programmers across 
> decades.  It belongs to no one and everyone.  When I use it, which is 
> often, I feel a sense of pride that we, the elders, the senior of the 
> most senior programmers, as a worldwide movement brought this 
> incredible thing to life.  It continues to grow and mature. Its vastly 
> better than it was 10 years ago.
>
> Nothing is perfect.  Driver problems are just as bad on Windows. If 
> you got a printer to work on Windows - consider yourself lucky. There 
> are now about 5 categories of drivers for Windows.  You guess if your 
> printer is supplied with the right driver for your version of Windows.
>
> To me linux is easy compared to Windows.  I can find everything. There 
> are no "hidden" databases of configuration information.  And I'm not 
> constantly assaulted by programs installing other programs that 
> eventually clog up memory to the point where booting takes 10 minutes.
>
> Its my opinion that linux is the OS that every ham should learn and 
> love.  Its consistent and compatible with the spirit of ham radio. The 
> do-it-yourself, build-your-own mentality that makes the hobby what it 
> is.  Linux is not hard and with a little patience it does everything 
> that's important.  Consider that Android is linux and that OS/X, for 
> all its glory, is based on just another open source unix derivative.  
> The unix-based OS base is winning and Windows is losing.  The web is 
> largely run on linux machines.
>
> So I vote for 64 bit ready Elecraft software because it is rapidly 
> becoming the future of computing.
>
> 73, Doug -- K0DXV
>
> PS: Make that 16.  I just built another one this afternoon.
>
> On 5/27/2014 7:43 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>> At sometime in the 50's, the President of IBM is alleged to have 
>> said, "The worldwide market for computers is probably about twelve." 
>> Apparently he didn't know Doug.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Fred K6DGW
>> - Northern California Contest Club
>> - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
>> - www.cqp.org
>>
>> On 5/27/2014 1:29 PM, Doug Person via Elecraft wrote:
>>
>>> I probably have 15 working computers.
>>
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