[Elecraft] P3 & marker B transmit freq.

Wed Mar 19 19:31:56 EDT 2014

I have my priorities, you have yours.

Out

Gary
KA1J

> 
>  > How about the software engineers at Elecraft making that an option in
>  > the next firmware update. You don't like it, don't use it. You do
>  > like it, then you can use it. To me it makes all the sense in the
>  > world.
> 
> I can think of a lot more important things for the software engineer
> (N1AL) on the P3 to be working on.
> 
> 1) baseline clamping with a fixed offset when changing span
> 2) fixing the center frequency setting on 17/12 meters when
>     changing bands
> 3) fixing the center frequency on other bands so the display always
>     centers to an even 5/10/25 KHz step on the other bands.
> 4) setting the fix tune mode so it limits the left/right edges of the
>     screen to the amateur band until one tunes out of the band
> 5) fixing the loss of scale when changing bands (remember the scale
>     last used on the target band)
> 
> 73,
> 
>     ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
> On 3/19/2014 6:40 PM, Gary Smith wrote:
> > Hi Joe & others who kindly replied,
> >
> > What I expect and what I see as efficient may be an "abnormal action"
> > to another person but to me it is incredibly efficient and doing it
> > otherwise is making work and is to me an abnormal action.
> >
> > What I want is engage split when I engage Magenta MKR 2, not to
> > engage the my Sub Rx or anything else. If I want to check out an
> > interesting signal seen on the P3 I will use the K3 VFO A to go there
> > or if I want to do it with the P3 I will use the green MKR A to go
> > there, certainly not MKR B. - The only time I want to use the magenta
> > MKR B is when I want to transmit on the frequency I placed MKR B on.
> > Otherwise MKR B is of no interest to me.
> >
> > To me, If I wanted to listen to two simultaneous unique signals at
> > the same time by using MKR B to do that, I would expect to disengage
> > split and engage the sub Rx.
> >
> > When I am in a pileup I don't care to use the sub RX to hear stations
> > calling the DX at the same time I am. With the P3 I see the other
> > stations and don't need to hear them as well. If I weren't using the
> > P3 then I would want to hear with the sub Rx as otherwise it's
> > shooting in the dark.
> >
> > It appears what I expected from the P3 in regards to automatic split
> > with engaging MKR B is not in the software. For those of us who
> > prefer to use the VFO A of the K3 to fine tune in the DX and use the
> > advantage of a narrow span to select where to transmit split and
> > pounce on it with MKR B, such an option would only make sense.
> >
> > How about the software engineers at Elecraft making that an option in
> > the next firmware update. You don't like it, don't use it. You do
> > like it, then you can use it. To me it makes all the sense in the
> > world.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Gary
> > KA1J
> >
> >>> What I was expecting as an built-in option though would be beneficial
> >>> for anyone who operates as I do.
> >>
> >> That's not how it was designed to work.  Enabling split anytime Marker B
> >> was tapped would be disruptive to most users.
> >>
> >> In the vast majority of cases setting/tapping Marker B says "this is an
> >> interesting signal - set VFO B so I can check it out using the KRX-3 or
> >> by executing A/B."
> >>
> >> You are asking for something that is "a bridge to far" and expecting
> >> the K3/P3 to anticipate an abnormal action.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >>      ... Joe, W4TV
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/19/2014 11:17 AM, Gary Smith wrote:
> >>> Sam,
> >>>
> >>> No, I've never made a macro, no idea how I'd approach that to
> >>> accomplish this. If it would work I'd be willing to try. What I was
> >>> expecting as an built-in option though would be beneficial for anyone
> >>> who operates as I do.
> >>>
> >>> Gary
> >>> KA1J
> >>>
> >>>> just a thought....
> >>>> how about creating a macro that does what you want...?
> >>>>
> >>>> On 3/19/2014 9:31 AM, Gary Smith wrote:
> >>>>> Bill,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Understood that some only use it that way, that is not my norm
> >>>>> though. I chase DX and If I engage the magenta operation with the P3,
> >>>>> its to be transmitting on a DX's listening frequency and in all those
> >>>>> cases I will be split.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Since 1979 I've never listened on two bands simultaneously and if I
> >>>>> want to see what's happening on different bands that is of my DX
> >>>>> interest, I use the spot log in Logic 9, my logging software and it
> >>>>> compares all current spots posted in North America (my default) to
> >>>>> what is needed in my log and displays who, what, when, & where and
> >>>>> one click on the spot log & I QSY there. For that matter, it can
> >>>>> retain that spotting data for up to a month if I'm seeking a trend on
> >>>>> an operators methods.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So, for my style of operation to date, I 100% of the time would want
> >>>>> the P3 to engage MKR B as a transmit frequency. For the prior 20
> >>>>> years till I assembled the K3 in 08 I used a Corsair II & external
> >>>>> VFO; I used it that way as well with the external VFO listening for
> >>>>> the place to transmit. Now thanks to the P3 I can see the spots and
> >>>>> don't need to hear them and the P3 is a great tool for DXing for me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What I do when I seek DX is so logical to me I can't help but think
> >>>>> its common for others as well. SInce the P3 communicates with the K3,
> >>>>> a firmware update of either the P3 or K3 to allow this choice of
> >>>>> engaging split when you select MKR B would be a genuine asset, I
> >>>>> expected it was a given.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gary
> >>>>> KA1J
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> No, not intuitive.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> MKR B is the VFO B frequency. Often one wants to listen on the B
> >>>>>> frequency. It may be on another band.
> >>>>>> SPLIT is a special case, not the norm.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ...bill nr4c
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Gary Smith <Gary at ka1j.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Reading the P3 screen I see a station transmitting. I use Marker A
> >>>>>> (Green) to pin me on that desired station as soon as I tap the knob
> >>>>>> to QSY me to a desired signal.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I listen to the station and they say UP so I know to hold in the MKR
> >>>>>> button to activate B ((Magenta) I see where the last transmission is
> >>>>>> and I place the Magenta marker at that location and tap: The Sub Rx
> >>>>>> goes to that frequency where the DX was last listening but sub is not
> >>>>>> engaged, it just sits on that frequency and does nothing with it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Problem is that if I don't then reach over and manually hold the
> >>>>>> split button on the K3 itself to have the K3 transmit on the DX
> >>>>>> listening frequency, I'll still keep transmitting on the DX transmit
> >>>>>> frequency because the K3 will not have gone split; its as if the
> >>>>>> procedure is halted half way and it shouldn't function this way, its
> >>>>>> not intuitive.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If I'm going to the effort to engage Marker B to QSY its because I
> >>>>>> want to transmit on the Marker B frequency. What do I have to the do
> >>>>>> differently to force the K3 go split to transmit on the B freq when I
> >>>>>> tap on MKR B?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Gary
> >>>>>> KA1J
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> GB & 73
> >>>> K5OAI
> >>>> Sam Morgan
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
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