[Elecraft] Do we need 2 groups?

[EricJ]

Between self-moderation and Eric's very reasonable tolerance of OT 
posts, I don't think further measures are necessary. Breaking it up into 
subgroups just means the experts we all rely on most will have less 
reason to hang around answering questions. That would be a very negative 
consequence.

What would REALLY help is that more people use meaningful subject lines, 
particularly using Elecraft model numbers, and OT when that is the case. 
I filter out KX3 and K3 because I don't have those rigs. Lots of posts 
have to do with those two rigs, but don't note it in the subject line. 
Not a problem, though, because I have a functioning Delete key and I'm 
trained to use it.

Ironically, this thread about OT complaints and splitting up the group 
is far less interesting than any of the OT threads that precipitated it.

Eric
KE6US


On 6/27/2014 1:17 PM, WILLIS COOKE via Elecraft wrote:
> The actual charter as I understand it is to discuss matters related to Amateur Radio in a rational manner.  It is sponsored by Elecraft, so things related to Elecraft are emphasized.  I do not recall any clause limiting the topics to those which all Amateurs agree (is there any such?)  Certainly there have been some topics that are more controversial than average discussed on this forum with a sharp divide of opinions, but since Elecraft products can be used or discarded by the actions of ARRL and FCC, I would say the controversy is exactly on target.  I would rather that only my views be elaborated and I am sure that others have the same wish, but it is not going to happen.  How else other than discussion can we reach any reasonable solution?
>   
> Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman
> K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart
>
>
> On Friday, June 27, 2014 12:11 PM, "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" <KX3 at ColdRocksHotBrooms.com> wrote:
>   
>
>
> In other words, divide up the group so that we all have to subscribe to
> several lists instead of just one?
>
> Each of those groups will of course tend to wander off topic, and likely
> into topics that belong on the other group(s).....
>
> We'd also see crossposts, like tp the Yahoo
>   KX3 list and this one.
>
> I've been around reflectors for about 25 years, and this is what they
> do.  Trying to tame them by making more groups will fail.
>
> Best we all just learn to self-moderate a little better.  Myself included.
>
> There is a wonderful piece of software called POPfile, that is pretty
> amazing in its' ability to sort mail.  I haven't tried it on this list,
> but I'm quite tempted.  I  think it'd solve the problem for those who
> can't just skim and delete.
>
> 73 -- Lynn
>
> On 6/27/2014 6:47 AM, Michael Walker wrote:
>> It is clear that the members of this group are amazingly social and love
>> their product.
>>
>> However, I am
>   concerned that the off topic (but valid) dialogues get away
>> from the actual charter of the original group and the the fact that
>> Elecraft staff are part of this group.
>>
>> Why not have someone clone this group for those off topic conversations and
>> then everyone is happy and we aren't clouding the technical conversations
>> that are directly related to the product.
>>
>> Mike va3mw
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