[Elecraft] RM-11708 proposal to FCC threatens CW and digital modes

[Walter Underwood]

Five days ago (6/18), Eric declared this off topic and asked the discussion to end. This was his post.

Folks - please take this thread off list immediately. In general, please do notdiscuss amateur policy issues here. That is a deep rabbit hole that can and will generate voluminous OT traffic.
End of Thread.
Eric
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wunder
K6WRU

On Jun 23, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Sandy Blaize <ebjr37 at charter.net> wrote:

> think my comments on RM-11708 went thru.
> 
> This is very serious to ANYONE who wants to retain "narrow band" digital communications like JT9 and PSK31 and RTTY!!  Also to CW Dxers and contesters!  If this passes, it will change amateur radio as we have known it forever.  There will be no "weak signal" operation possible with the onset of digital noise in the analog receiver.
> 
> IF THIS IS REALLY A "NECESSARY" DIGITAL MODE, it belongs somewhere in a segment of the phone band sub-band and NOT THE narrow band digital and CW band.
> 
> I think this is REALLY a "back door" attempt to silence "Continuous wave" telegraphy......really!
> 
> I hope the old timers and the "newbies" who are still hanging on to CW will write comments against this "sneaky move" ARRL is backing to satisfy mostly the "Yacht crowd" who want to access the internet via HF radio!  It will violate the "300 baud or less" rule of keeping wideband digital OUT of the narrow band "digital" space!
> 
> Don't rely on the FCC to "nix" this RM as there isn't any "real" engineers at the FCC anymore, just lawyers, "bean counters" and political hacks
> running things there now.  Proof of this is higher authorities bypassing FCC and making rules that stand now in the new 60 meter band.
> 
> Please add your voices to the protest against RM-11708!
> 
> 73,
> 
> Sandy W5TVW
> 
> 
> On 6/23/2014 8:13 AM, jsdroyster at nc.rr.com wrote:
>> Perhaps others like me are unaware of this proposed FCC rule that would allow
>> digital communication modes 2.8 kHz in width to be used robotically in the CW and data
>> sub-bands without regard to interference.  ARRL supports this and evidently initiated it.
>>  http://www.arrl.org/files/media/News/RM-11708%20Briefing%20Memo.pdf
>>  However, information on websites savecw.com and saveRTTY.com indicates
>> it would cause grave interference with CW and narrow digital modes.
>>  There is evidently a short window of opportunity to submit comments to the FCC
>> about this, and there are instructions on the noted websites for how to do this
>> online within just a few minutes.
>> 
>> If you google for RM-11708 you can read some well-reasoned comments submitted by other hams to the FCC electronic docket.
>>  I can't evaluate the claims being made about ARRL's motivation  but it seems
>> important not to allow such bad interference, so I submitted a comment.
>> Julie KT4JR
>> 
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