[Elecraft] OT KX3 - Yahoo Group

[Wm Robert Leschyna]

Hi Bruce,

I appreciate you cc ing me into your post, but I really need to say that
your comments are very unfair and unfounded.

You obviously have no idea what is involved in growing and maintaining a
large group such as the KX3 group.

Yes, there are probably a few who have been banned from the group that
perhaps should not have been, but that is only a small portion compared to
the amount of spam and obscene, nasty and down right rude stuff that we are
forced to filter, and do stop.  You have ZERO CLUE!

It seems that I can not please everyone all of the time, I will live with
that.

One reason discussions about things like heat sinks have been "tempered"
was that in the recent past, they have lead to several arguments and
unproductive discussions about copyright theft etc, and even evolved into
racial slurs.

This group was not founded, grown and maintained so that a few individuals
can come in, not contribute to the greater good of the KX3 community, but
then attempt to divert/steal traffic and visitors for their own profit and
marketing efforts.

So as much as you have chosen to focus on the bad as you see it, you are
missing 99% of the good that has gone on.

I don't profess to have been perfect, but for a "hobby (my time
volunteered)" I think I, as well as others have done a decent job of
growing the KX3 group to the size it now is. I would also suggest that the
BULK of the group is very happy and are getting value out of this
particular group.

To recap, the heat sink discussion is really old. The recent posts that you
are questioning, which resulted in privileges being removed, were inciting
in nature.  There is no need to choose sides and reopen the debate. We are
simply just trying to stop those who like to stop by, toss in a grenade and
leave a mess that we then have to deal with.

But I guess if I was just sitting in my armchair and doing some Monday
Morning Quarterbacking, I would think it is all easy too.  But I am not, I
am in the trenches trying to make everyone happy and keep the group on
topic.

None the less, thanks again for your valued input.

73 Bob VE3UK.






On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Bruce Beford <beford at myfairpoint.net>
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>   Sadly, The KX3 Yahoo group has taken a very bad turn. It was originally started, when the  KX3 was initially announced, by a very responsible group owner who had a very lenient moderation policy. Unfortunately, he has turned the day-to-day operation over to two other moderators that prefer to remain anonymous. They have instituted a Draconian zero-tolerance policy of any mention of either commercial products, or links to any other resource pages. They claim to want all KX3 related material to be copied to the Yahoo Group, rather than links to other sites. This is unworkable, as only those who actually own the information can post it there. It also make maintenance of updates unworkable. For instance, I posted a link to a website that was still maintaining an archive copy of NaP3 software (N8LP), after development of NaP3 ceased. For this, I was placed on moderation (unannounced and unexplained).
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> Unfortunately, the implementation of these new policies has resulted in the banishment of many, often without explanation. Sad to say, this once very useful Group is now much less so.
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> > Just  thought I would pass along my recent experience on the KX3 Yahoo Group.
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> > Yesterday I received a heatsink from KB8UHN.  I posted on the KX3 Yahoo
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> > About an hour later I get an email from the moderator telling me I'm banned
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> > from group for promoting products.  I replied "Sorry did not know your
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> > Johnny Siu VR2XMC told me he has been banned from posting on the group for
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> > So be careful on the KX3 Yahoo Group.  Somehow I will suffer through this
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> > 73 Tex
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