[Elecraft] CW QRQ and SPLIT wayne has announced some small ritin the past !!!!

Wed Feb 19 09:04:03 EST 2014

I would agree with Tommy,   some small RIT would be helpful.

It isn't only at 60 wpm that you notice some choppiness,  but anything over 
30 wpm makes a difference in sending without the QRQ being on.  For some 
reason this is more evident when using KB>

However,  in a three way QSO where only one station is off frequency, it 
seems to work out OK as I have to turn RIT off to copy the station on my 
frequency.  It depends which way the order of TX occurs.

Toby K4NH

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chester Alderman" <aldermant at windstream.net>
To: "'Klaus Koppendorfer'" <KK at ccf.net>; "'John Bohnovic'" <k4wj at att.net>
Cc: "'Elecraft Reflector'" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>; <don at w3fpr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 4:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW QRQ and SPLIT wayne has announced some small 
ritin the past !!!!

> The 'problem' with QRQ CW is that if you are running much over 60 wpm, you 
> have to seriously concentrate on your copy and sending. I personally, do 
> not require Split when operating QRQ, but I sure would love to have RIT 
> for at least 0.5kc. That, for me, would solve the issue. And yes, Elecraft 
> has stated in the past that they would 'look into it', but that was 
> several years ago and I finally gave up on it happening.
>
> 73,
> Tom - W4BQF
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Klaus Koppendorfer [mailto:KK at ccf.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:24 AM
> To: Chester Alderman; 'John Bohnovic'
> Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector'; don at w3fpr.com
> Subject: AW: [Elecraft] CW QRQ and SPLIT wayne has announced some small 
> rit in the past !!!!
>
> wayne has announced some small rit in the past !!!!
>
> wayne at Apr.28, 2011
> If you use QRQ mode (high-speed CW/ultra-fast break-in), you'll notice
> that the latest firmware provides a temporary solution to the problem
> of having to turn off QRQ mode in order to use SPLIT, RIT, or XIT.
> Previously, you had to turn QRQ mode off manually using the CONFIG:CW
> QRQ menu entry. Now, engaging any type of split will automatically
> turn QRQ mode off, then turn it back on once you've disabled all splits.
>
> We're still planning to allow limited-range RIT with QRQ mode turned
> on in a future firmware release. But several QRQ users had suggested
> this interim change. I use QRQ mode all the time, and I've found the
> change to be very convenient.
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Chester Alderman [mailto:aldermant at windstream.net]
> Gesendet: Montag, 17. Februar 2014 18:39
> An: 'John Bohnovic'; Klaus Koppendorfer
> Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector'; don at w3fpr.com
> Betreff: RE: [Elecraft] CW QRQ and SPLIT
>
> But if you have several hams in the round-table, you sure do need RIT 
> because you know all hams are not going to be zero beat. Besides that, 
> yes, ever if your one QSO partner is zero beat, you need the ability to 
> slightly change the Rx QRQ frequency so the received tone suits your ears. 
> Copying QRQ requires one to be able to use standard CW receiver functions. 
> That is why I, personally, can't use my K3 for full QSK QRQ operation.
> Since this issue has been on-going for several years, it most likely can 
> not be fixed? Or it is just being ignored!
>
> 73,
> Tom - W4BQF
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Bohnovic
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 11:36 AM
> To: Klaus Koppendorfer
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector; don at w3fpr.com
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW QRQ and SPLIT
>
> Do you need the RIT mode when the other station is zero beat with your 
> signal?
>
> John/K4WJ
> ex KN8PXG K8PXG ZF2HZ
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Feb 17, 2014, at 3:05 AM, Klaus Koppendorfer <KK at ccf.net> wrote:
>>
>> It is sad that QRQ mode has no RIT  !!!
>> Cw up from 30 to 35 WPM hast o use QRQ mode because of struggling dits
>> and dahs
>>
>> Many highspeed ops VHSC EHSC has changed from k3 to FT5000 because of
>> leaking RIT with QRQ with K3
>>
>> Maybe Wayne will sharpen Firmware in future for QRQ mode
>>
>> If rit/split is necessary i use 2nd RX but this is not so comfortable
>>
>> 73
>> Oe6kyg
>> Klaus
>>
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] I'm Auftrag von Don Wilhelm
>> Gesendet: Samstag, 15. Februar 2014 22:06
>> An: Jorge Diez - CX6VM; 'Elecraft Reflector'
>> Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] CW QRQ and SPLIT
>>
>> Jorge,
>>
>> AFAIK, probably not.  The frequency must be shifted from RX to TX, and 
>> with QRQ in effect it is not possible to shift that fast.  A K3 with 
>> 'chirp' on the ham bands would not be a nice thing to hear.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>>> On 2/15/2014 2:33 PM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote:
>>> I saw in the manual of K3 that CW QRQ is "temporarily turned OFF"
>>> with SPLIT.
>>>
>>> Will be in the future any way to use it in SPLIT mode or is impossible?
>>
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