[Elecraft] OT: Contesting / DXing practices

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

I would say to use the Bandplan of the country that you are licensed in 
it is a simple matter of courtesy to be considerate of those who do not care to contest 


      From: brian <alsopb at nc.rr.com>
 To: Harry Yingst <hlyingst at yahoo.com> 
 Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 4:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Contesting / DXing practices
   
Harry,

Which bandplan?  There are many.  EU bandplans are different from Asian 
band plans for example.    There are also many groups/modes/nets etc who 
plop themselves down anywhere and declare that frequency theirs.  Then 
they bemoan interference?

If you really look at the band plans, it would take a superhuman to 
avoid all the little niches.

Also what you see is a reflection of too little space available. RTTY 
contests are a good example.  Do you really think it can be constrained 
to be within 14080 and 14090?

73 de Brian/K3KO

On 12/1/2014 21:15 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
> I would also like to add pay attention to the bandplan
> Many are NOT contesting and it spoils there enjoyment when contesters encroach on them while they are operating.
> Examples: CW or RTTy being run on top of the JT65 Guys or SSB Voice on top of the SSTV guys.
>
>
>
>
>        From: Ken G Kopp <kengkopp at gmail.com>
>  To: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>  Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:01 PM
>  Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Contesting / DXing practices
>    
> Jim is speaks the truth.....
>
> While the premise of beginning a transmission with "DE" ... or the called
> station's call ... may be "correct", in practice it assures one first place
> in the "lid" line.
>
> 5NN is the only "cut" number that's acceptable to me, too.
>
> In the contesting arena time is all-important!  Seconds saved count.  FD,
> especially, brings out every lid-ism.  It's actually easy to have one ...
> or more ... contest QSO's while waiting for a "please copy my number".  Add
> another QSO in the log for "good luck in the contest" babble.
>
> 73
>
> Ken Kopp - K0PP
> On Dec 1, 2014 11:30 AM, "Jim Brown" <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon,12/1/2014 5:52 AM, dmb at lightstream.net wrote:
>>
>>> But PLEASE DO develop the habit of using the characters "DE" to preface
>>> the sending of your callsign, whether calling CQ or in exchange with
>>> another station.
>>>
>> NO, NO, NO! (CAPS added for emphasis). When a contester (or DXpedition) is
>> running (calling CQ), we EXPECT to hear YOUR callsign, and we start typing
>> that call in the entry window. Lots of calls begin with D, so when someone
>> sends DE, we must backspace. DON'T send his call first -- he knows his call
>> -- only send yours. Same problem with typing. Further, sending the old CW
>> elements like DE, K, KN, and QSL during a contest are time-wasters
>> equivalent to "please copy" on SSB. Most good contesters use "TU" or "R"
>> and end a QSO by sending "TU" followed by their callsign.
>>
>> Another rule -- NEVER resend anything that the other station has copied
>> correctly. If the other station sent your call correctly when he responded
>> to you, don't send it again. Send it again ONLY if you think he got it
>> wrong.
>>
>> Count me among those who HATE cut numbers other than for 5NN.
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
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