[Elecraft] Is there a reason the receive is so Skinny

[KQ8M]

I'm sorry but just because a band is not full of signals does not make it right to have a poor signal. In fact, I don't see anywhere
in the FCC regulations that states you can do whatever you want as long as you don't bother someone else.

To the other gentleman, I would like to ask for a link to the study that shows 98% of contesters have poor audio. CQ magazines
contests are now disqualifying stations with poor audio or signals on CW. That has been a bug in the bonnet of most contesters for
some time. So, again, I would like read the study that proves that 98% of contesters are operating poorly and purposely as you
intimate.

73,
Tim Herrick, KQ8M
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-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of GRANT YOUNGMAN
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 10:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Is there a reason the receive is so Skinny

You can find some ESSB around 7230 daytimes, and 14.178 give or take.  I haven't heard the 20M guys for a while, but I haven't been
there listening either.

Some of the guys on 40 do exhibit the false carrier artifact that Joe referred to.  But the band isn't crowded during the day (or
hasn't been) so it seems the question is SO?  They're not bothering anyone except the bandwidth police who complain about a 6 or 8
kHz wide AM signal, too, as being "horrible" on 75 meters when the band is otherwise DEAD.  (ESSB sounds darn good on a receiver
with wide bandwidth and good audio response, and the AM community in general are good neighbors on the bands).

We have enough trouble with HOA's beating us up - why do we insist on beating up on our fellow hams who might enjoy some aspect of
ham radio that we don't?  I don't understand it, other than reflecting some drive to be IN CONTROL of what others are allowed to do,
not because it affects us personally, or is even good for the hobby, but just . because . control.  I rarely bother to even turn on
the radio when the ever increasing number of contests ruins the bands for me - but I also don't spend all of my time trying to
outlaw contests .

We each have points of view.  But there's a tendency to treat this whole bandwidth nonsense as a religious war (I know, I'm guilty,
too) - which isn't a good thing.


Grant NQ5T


On Apr 27, 2014, at 9:20 PM, Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:

> Since I don't casually frequent the SSB sub-bands, where and when would I be likely to find ESSB?  I'd like to see what it sounds
like.  I have an FT-847 which is pretty broad in SSB, might be fun to compare it to the K3.
> 
> And, sadly for Milverton, I will admit to being a somewhat casual contester, mainly CW and some RTTY, not a lot on SSB since I
can't hear it all that well.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
> - www.cqp.org
> 
> On 4/27/2014 7:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> 
>> Hardly - most contesters are focused on keeping their audio "tight"
>> for maximum efficiency.  Yes, some overdrive an amplifier and 
>> splatter but heavily compressed (low peak to average) audio is not 
>> "wide" and does not cause interference.  Unlike intentionally wide 
>> audio with excessive low end that rings and creates a false carrier 
>> to the point the SSB can be demodulated as AM.
> 

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