[Elecraft] Is there a reason the receive is so Skinny
David Cole
dave at nk7z.net
Sun Apr 27 13:01:44 EDT 2014
OK... It's not just me then... It is refreshing to hear someone
actually mention pre/de emphasis in a discussion about reducing channel
noise... THANK YOU JOE!
I thought I was loosing my mind for a while, hearing these ESSB
stations.
I do mostly CW, so I almost never get into the SSB portion of the band.
Of late I have been running into these people, and the 4KC Plus splat
they create. That was a surprise!
--
Thanks and 73's,
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On Sun, 2014-04-27 at 12:43 -0400, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> Absolutely! In addition, overly "pumped" low end simply adds hum,
> rumble and IMD to the audio. Professional audio engineers have
> learned to cut the low end on audio production/recording/broadcast
> for a very long time except where absolutely necessary and even
> then most pros use a low-cut set around 100 Hz unless they are
> trying to record a bass, tuba, piano, organ, etc. with significant
> program content below low C (~130 Hz) or deep C (~65 Hz).
>
> Very few male voices are pitched below 100 Hz - it seems to me the
> lowest recorded was around 80 Hz - the fundamental range of a bass
> vocalist is typically E2 (~82 Hz) to E4 (~330 Hz). Communications
> quality (ITU: 2.8 KHz bandwidth) adequately covers 200 to 3000 Hz or
> 100 to 2900 Hz. Even "toll grade" (2.1 to 2.4 KHz bandwidth) audio
> in the old days was more than adequate for reasonable communications.
>
> It is particularly worth noting that the ratio of fundamental to
> harmonic content in speech is quite high and systems which do not
> substantially reduce the fundamental power typically sound muddy and
> distorted. Broadcast systems typically use preemphasis (decreased
> lows/increased highs) in transmission with corresponding deemphasis
> (high frequency roll off) in reception to reduce channel noise and
> improve reception.
>
> The infantile fascination with SSB flat from 50 Hz to 4000 Hz is
> nothing more than another childish, bandwidth wasting, QRM generating
> temper-tantrum from those who don't know better or don't care.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 4/27/2014 10:13 AM, David Cole wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Sorry to jump in on the thread, without an answer, but a question-- why
> > the need for a low end below 200 HZ? We are not broadcast stations
> > after all... Maybe I am missing something but I see zero reason for all
> > of this Extended SSB, all it seems to do is cause splatter...
> >
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