[Elecraft] Side Effects of QRQ On The K3

[Toby Pennington]

I think a few who have posted on this subject misunderstood what I 
said.  I said nothing about clicks or chirps at higher speeds without 
the QRQ being engaged.   What I did say the cw begins to get "choppy".  
In other words,  the cw being send is not smooth as it could be.  And 
the faster you send the choppier it gets.

The QRQ feature in the K3 was added for those running at higher speeds 
(than 25wpm) who experienced their sent   CW that was not really good.   
Not really smooth,  but choppy.   Elecraft was able to duplicate this 
problem in their lab, and so came up with the QRQ feature.   The QRQ 
feature works very well at smoothing out the cw even at very high 
speeds,  but at the expense of losing several features.

Lets get back on track.  I was asking has progress be made in making QRQ 
work without losing RIT,  SHift,  Hi Cut and Lo Cut functions? This is a 
simple question which can be answered with a yes or no!

Toby K4NH




On 4/12/2014 8:45 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
> Dave,
>
> Let me add my two-bits too --- I am about 98 percent CW but NOT QRQ.
> I am 18 to 25 wpm depending but during contests I will play around with
> others at 30 wpm or more.  I have never had any problems with clicks
> or anything else.  I am often in a QSO with a friend or two who would not
> be shy about telling me if my CW keying was clicky, chirpy, or whatever.
>
> 73, phil, K7PEH
>
>
> On Apr 12, 2014, at 4:49 PM, David Cole <dave at nk7z.net> wrote:
>
>> Thank you!!!  I was starting to get worried that the K3 could not
>> generate CW...  :)
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>> On Sat, 2014-04-12 at 15:35 -0700, Fred Jensen wrote:
>>> On 4/12/2014 1:07 PM, David Cole wrote:
>>>
>>>> Could you expand a bit on the choppy CW thing?  I am a new K3 person,
>>>> and I just bought my K3.  All this talk about choppy CW makes me a bit
>>>> apprehensive. If I use a normal Vibroplex iambic paddle, and send well
>>>> am I going to have a problem, or is this something about using the KBD
>>>> option?
>>> Short answer: No and you can stop being apprehensive about it. :-)
>>>
>>> You will plug in your paddle [and/or external keyer and/or computer],
>>> and you will be sending clickless CW with full-QSK.  Had the subject not
>>> come up [again] on this email list, the odds that you'd ever encounter
>>> and notice its effects are vanishingly small unless you are a 60+ WPM
>>> full QSK operator.  I operate in a lot of CW contests with N1MM driving
>>> a WinKeyUSB at between 30 and 35 WPM, KPA500, full QSK, QRQ option off.
>>>   No one has ever given me a QSD.  When I've specifically asked friends
>>> [good CW ops] to evaluate my keying, they tell me it's great.  My "fist"
>>> is another matter of course. :-)
>>>
>>> It's another example of how you have to filter a list like this one.
>>> The variety of K3 owners is vast, and some push the limits in various
>>> ways and at those limits, they start seeing things the vast majority of
>>> us never do or ever will.  They tend to discuss them here, which is
>>> fine.  Those using the K3 as the IF for transverters up to the microwave
>>> ranges are very concerned about frequency stability, and often discuss
>>> it on this list too.  Your K3 will be rock-solid for you on HF, no need
>>> for apprehension over that either.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Fred K6DGW
>>> - Northern California Contest Club
>>> - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
>>> - www.cqp.org
>>>
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