[Elecraft] K3 - Win4K3 Suite

Tom tomb18 at videotron.ca
Wed Sep 4 16:07:04 EDT 2013


Hi
Maybe I can shed some light on this.
Win4k3 offers a rich interface to the radio as well as mirroring what goes on in the radio if a user manipulates a control.  Thus there is a lot of polling going on. A lot of work went into optimizing the timing of this polling and this requires a dedicated port to the k3.
Now Win4k3 has an aux/cat port which can be used with third party programs that need to connect to the k3. This port requires either a physical port, or two virtual ports where it can connect to and the other device can get and set radio commands. This port works for many things like dx4win, logger32 winlogger winOM and others. It does not work for N1MM which has a high polling rate as well. 
In the case of the Microham devices, as far as I can tell, there is a cable supplied that has a direct connection to the rs232 port on the k3. Therefore one would connect through the Microham via a virtual serial port. For the same reasons that high polling rates might not work with Win4k3 they may not work for the Microham.
There is one possibility though which I have not tried nor thas anyone else:
If you connect Win4k3 aux/cat port directly to a physical port, and then connect the Microham rs232 cable to this serial port via a null modem cable, then it will see the radio without all of the polling going though the Microham.
I do not own a Microham but if I could borrow one for a few days I'm sure I could get this operational. 
In both the Microham and N1MM logger, I am looking at providing an option that will suspend most polling in Win4k3 and as long as one does not touch the physical radio. this should work with these products.
That being said, a new version of the software is underway with additional aux/cat ports as well as remote serial port redirection allowing you to use third part software remotely and connect to the physical device via IP.
Anyone in the montreal area that can lend a Microham for a few days?
Regards, Tom

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On 2013-09-04, at 3:10 PM, Karl-Heinz - DL2FAG <dl2fag at arcor.de> wrote:

> I  have  just  test  it  with  virtual  serial  ports (generated by an
> external   application),   which   I   split  to  use  the ports (CAT,
> Rotor, winkey etc) simultanouly on  different other running
> application (like mixw, LOGic)
> 
> Unter  this  circumstances,  I was not able to run WIN4K3. So long the
> ports  were  splitted,  WIn4K3  does  not  work  -  If  I  disable the
> port-splittig, the Ports are fine for Win4K3
> 
> 73
> 
> Karl
> DL2FAG
> 
> am Mittwoch, 4. September 2013 um 20:11 schrieben Sie:
> 
> 
>> What is the issue with microHAM virtual ports?  If you trying to
>> run both a logger on the CAT port and a second application on the
>> 2nd CAT port, the second application must be low priority and do
>> minimum polling.  Remember, the combined data rate of the serial
>> port is only 38,400 bps maximum.  The K3/P3 combination needs to
>> be able to keep up with not only the combined polling rate of
>> *two* applications *plus* the overhead of communication between
>> the K3 and P3 that the user/applications never see.
> 
>> 73,
> 
>>    ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
>> On 9/4/2013 11:20 AM, Karl-Heinz Kuehlborn wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> the  same  here  -  the  suite needs a "complete" access to the serial
>>> ports  -  it worked partly, if I made the virtual ports just in a read
>>> state.
>>> 
>>> Haven't  yet found a workable solution if you work with virtual serial
>>> ports.
>>> 
>>> Karl
>>> DL2FAG
>>> 
>>> am Mittwoch, 4. September 2013 um 17:13 schrieben Sie:
>>> 
>>>> Bill:
>>> 
>>>> I loved it until it was obvious there were BIG problems running with
>>>> MicroHam Router virtual ports..
>>> 
>>>> W4CCS
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>>> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 6:40 AM
>>>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - Win4K3 Suite
>>> 
>>>> I understand Win4K3 Suite is much improved from its original offering,
>>>> however, my 30 day test expired a long time ago and I am unable to try the
>>>> newest version. Hence, the questions:
>>> 
>>>> Is anyone using Win4K3 Suite? If so, how do you like it? Any other comments?
>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>>> Bill W2BLC
>>> 
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