[Elecraft] How many Windows users are using Windows 98 SE?

Tue May 28 21:07:47 EDT 2013

I still have a working IMSAI computer with 3 SA800 disk drives and an H19 
terminal.  Plus in storage an Altair 8800 an Altrair 8800b turnkey, an extra 
H19 terminal, and a bunch of S100 boards.  And a Xerox-820 in a homebrew 
portable case, just like an Osborne, which I used to us as a 'satellite 
simulator" when working with AX.25 and AO-27 command stuff.  I have most of 
the old CP/M and SIG/U user group disks as well.  I dumped the Diablo 620(?) 
printer when I moved....
73, Terry, WB4JFI

-----Original Message----- 
From: Grant Youngman
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 6:17 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net List
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How many Windows users are using Windows 98 SE?

if we're going back that far, is anyone out there still running CP/M or 
Phimon, or using switches to toggle in machine code one byte at a time?  Or 
worrying about the behavior of thunks in Algol and side effects of call by 
name, or perhaps whether all of the filaments in the tubes in the 64-bit 
accumulator are ok?

:D    Grant NQ5T

On May 28, 2013, at 5:05 PM, "Bill Blomgren" <billblom at nc.rr.com> wrote:

> In the commercial world, 98 went by the wayside back when MS dropped 
> support for it... which was somewhere in the 2000's as I remember.  (I 
> never supported 98.. I was only in the server world there.)
>
> Considering the age of the computers that -can- run 98 these days, they 
> are .. well... OLD.  I have 1 down in Charlotte that I didn't bump to XP 
> only because I had a film scanner from Polaroid (4000 pixels per inch) 
> that did an incredible job.. but had software that ONLY ran on 98.  4 
> weeks after I bought that puppy ($1500 then) - Polaroid went belly up.  So 
> there have been NO updates for the drivers and guts of the scanning 
> software.  <sigh>
>
> But I don't know anyone still running 98 or ME at this point.  None.  LOTS 
> of people on Linux, Mac, and Windows XP and 7.  A few running Vista.. I 
> don't know of anyone running 8 at this point. (Uptake has been 1/2 the 
> dismal Vista uptake, which tells you something...)
>
> Moving up to the next generation of Compiler would be a good thing in my 
> eyes, but a lot of software doesn't need 64 bit versions.. (I suspect your 
> utilities probably are some of those...) - the WOW layer handles thunking 
> nicely so that 32 bit applications will run happily on 64 bit OS's.. 
> Compile for 32 bit in all cases because the last version that had 16 bit 
> support was XP as I remember.....
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Dievendorff" <dieven at comcast.net>
> To: <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 5:23 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] How many Windows users are using Windows 98 SE?
>
>
>> I've been building the various Elecraft utilities (K3 Utility, KX3 
>> Utility,
>> P3 Utility, KPA Utility, XG3 Utility, K144XV Utility and XG3 Utility) 
>> with a
>> 2005-era compiler, because that's the most recent version of the 
>> Microsoft
>> Visual Studio C++ compiler that generates executables that will run on
>> Windows 98 SE.
>>
>>
>> I'd like to move to a more modern compiler, but the resulting code they
>> generate will run only on Windows XP and later.  That is, Windows XP,
>> Windows Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8.
>>
>>
>>
>> Would you be inconvenienced by this change?  I'm hoping there aren't 
>> many.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please let me know if you need the Windows versions of the Elecraft
>> Utilities to run on Windows OS prior to Windows XP, and what OS you have.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks & 73 de Dick, K6KR
>>
>>
>>
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