[Elecraft] Fwd: K3 Microphone Choices

Thu Mar 14 11:26:22 EDT 2013

Of course that matters for broadcast AM or FM, but ...

When you cut off the frequencies at 3 KHz, you cut off almost all those overtones. If SSB is even a tiny bit mis-tuned, all the overtones are also out of tune.

Cheap electret mics are quite good. Once you pay enough for decent build quality, they are all the same for communications purposes. They have limitations, but those just don't matter for communications (only 80 dB SNR, uneven high frequency response, compression with high dynamic range).

wunder
K6WRU

On Mar 14, 2013, at 7:04 AM, tnnyswy at yahoo.com wrote:

> Joe, you are overlooking one thing.
> 
>>>> trying to
> duplicate the complex overtone structure of classical strings using a
> microphone designed for the job is essential. <<< 
> 
> There is nothing more complex in overtones than the Human Voice. Period. 
> 
> I wonder why Electrovoice mic, both the EV 20 and the EV 27 are known throughout the Broadcast Industry.
> 
> BTW, Amateur Radio and Commercial Broadcasting has one thing in common.
> They are both reproducing the Human Voice through a known (irrespective of bandwidth) medium. 
> 
> ((((73)))) Milverton
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Fred Smith <mfsj at mo-net.com>
>> To: "'Joe Subich, W4TV'" <lists at subich.com>; elecraft at mailman.qth.net 
>> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fwd:  K3 Microphone Choices
>> 
>> Joe you left out one important thing "Quality" I hate junk no matter what it
>> is. I learned that years ago I was too poor to buy cheap it cost too much in
>> the long run that applied to my businesses as well as personal purchases.
>> 
>> Each to his own. 
>> 
>> Fred/N0AZZ
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV
>> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:49 AM
>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: K3 Microphone Choices
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/14/2013 6:52 AM, Fred Smith wrote:
>>> The same could be said be said about buying a loaded K3/P3 SVGA for 
>>> $5500+ instead of an IC-718 for $700 both radios?
>> 
>> This is a case of apples vs. oranges.  There is less difference among
>> microphones designed for voice work than there is among high end rigs. 
>> Yes, there are places for specialized microphones - if one is working from a
>> distance (e.g., a "shotgun" mic), trying to mic a "kick" drum, or trying to
>> duplicate the complex overtone structure of classical strings using a
>> microphone designed for the job is essential.
>> 
>> However, communications is one of the least demanding applications for a
>> microphone and spending $200, $300 or even $400 is not going to provide any
>> more performance than the $50 utility mic.  In this area, one is paying for
>> name and style not performance.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>>     ... Joe, W4TV
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/14/2013 6:52 AM, Fred Smith wrote:
>>> The same could be said be said about buying a loaded K3/P3 SVGA for 
>>> $5500+ instead of an IC-718 for $700 both radios?
>>> 
>>> Myself I prefer a better quality of radio, mic and microHAM equipment 
>>> over Signalink. I hate to have a weak link in an otherwise good 
>>> station and then quality comes into the picture plastic vs. metal. 
>>> That said I do have several "plastic mic's in the shack 2 
>>> Elecraft/Heil headsets and 2 Elecraft hand mic's K2/KX3.
>>> 
>>> Quality is remembered long after the price is forgotten.
>>> 
>>> Fred/N0AZZ
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>>> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Arthur 
>>> Nienhouse
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 1:13 AM
>>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: K3 Microphone Choices
>>> 
>>> Five years ago I purchased a ATR-30 from J&R for $22.00 it came with a 
>>> 16ft XLR 3 pin cable when I A/B tested against my Gold Line Heil the 
>>> only difference was the price my advice is use the EQ save you money 
>>> do not purchase the Heil.
>>> http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/1540
>>> Regards
>>> Art
>>> ka9zap
>>> 
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject:     [Elecraft] K3 Microphone Choices
>>> Date:     Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:28:38 -0500 (CDT)
>>> From:     pastormg2 at verizon.net
>>> To:     elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Good evening.  I have a K3 and really love it.  I am looking at 
>>> purchasing a new microphone pretty soon.  I am currently using a 
>>> Kenwood  MC-60 and I get excellent reports on my modulation. But I 
>>> have been reading alot about the Heil microphones and was wondering 
>>> what Heil microphone would work good with my system.  I basically like 
>>> to operate for DX though I do chat from time to time on some nets.  Any
>> recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
>>> Thanks!!!  Mark KB3Z
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