[Elecraft] The P3 Effect

Robert Garceau rgarceau at snet.net
Sat Mar 9 14:17:03 EST 2013


I agree with working the edge of the pileups.
I have been to St.Croix, not exactly a dxpedition, over a 4 year period.
I bring the K3 with me.
It still amazes me that I work 1,000 plus stations each year, get requests
for QSL's with GS's and a bunch through the bureau.
For some people, KP2 (Virgin Islands) must be a new one.

I do work split most of the time, especially on CW and RTTY. 
And if the pileup gets rough, I work the edges.
I'm not a big phone guy. On SSB, I operate simplex.

Funny story: 
In 2011, on my first day in St.Croix, I was working a pileup and getting
great reports from Europe and the U.S.
Later in the day, I found that I was only running 30 watts. Apparently the
K3 thought I was still hooked up to the KPA500.
I increased the power to 100 watts and the K3 shut down. I found out that I
had a bad power supply (PS was in rental shack) and could not exceed 30
watts.
With 30 watts and an A3S, I still worked over 1,000 stations. Of course the
rental (NP2N) is high on a hill and clear signals to EU and US.
Yes, there's an amp in the shack, but decided not to power it.


Bob Garceau, W1EQ
DXCC Honor Roll
Triple Play Award #5
DXCC Challenge 2149 band/countries
Ex. K1YRP, USA-CA All Counties #342






-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Flowers
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 12:30 PM
To: 'Jay'; ai2n at twcny.rr.com; elecraft at mailman.qth.net; 'eric norris'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

Yes, that was my experience on Conway Reef last year.   I could only work a
given RX frequency for a couple of Qs before having to hunt for a clearer
call and start again.   I began to notice that the weaker signals that I
could copy tended to be on clearer frequencies, so they would be my guide to
where to start again.    It seemed to work pretty well as I did a fellow who
said he was running 1W on 20M SSB.   I think he was from the level of
excitement in his voice.

I've had really good luck working DX by calling at the upper edge of the
pileup.    As the DX op I would often just go 'up' to the upper edge to find
a clear call, and I think a lot of other DX ops do the same when the pileups
become a roaring wall of noise.

- 73 de Mike, K6MKF, W6NAG, NCDXC, Conway Reef 2012, K3-P3 Addict, Maui

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[mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jay
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 8:57 AM
To: ai2n at twcny.rr.com; elecraft at mailman.qth.net; eric norris
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

Having been " out there a few times" I know I spin the dial usually after
1-2 Q's as dual receivers and other tools brings the pileups to who I just
worked . I will usually jump the edges, then jump the center and repeat that
in odd combinations. Today one cannot listen for the gang on one frequency
very long...so it's always " keep moving"

Jay

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From: <ai2n at twcny.rr.com>
To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>; "eric norris" <gliderboy1955 at yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 4:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect


> Perhaps this is why DXpeditions seem to play "spin the dial" more; having 
> many stations converge on the last rx frequency probably tends to slow 
> their rate.  I experienced this effect at PZ5RO.  It would be interesting 
> to get feedback from DXpedition ops.
>
> 73, Redd - AI2N
>
> ---- eric norris <gliderboy1955 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Has anyone else noticed just how many people are now able to pounce on 
>> the last frequency TX5K used? Back in the day you swapped VFOs and 
>> listened for the calling station. After I got my P3 it seemed to be a 
>> real advantage because you could instantly find the calling station (if 
>> you could hear him). Now so many people do this it seems to almost be a 
>> requirement to have a P3 or panadapter of some sort. Of course, I could 
>> be wrong.
>>
>> 73 Eric WD6DBM
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