[Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 111, Issue 26

Jan k1nd at comcast.net
Sun Jul 14 12:47:47 EDT 2013


INTERESTING

I recall visiting with 9M2DQ on Pulau Langkawi in 1963 and Jim
commented "on how American equipment" isn't made for use in
the tropics; HQ-170A required regular attention.  Fond memories
from my 2.5 years as 9M2JJ

Now I read where one needs to pay attention as to where the KX3
goes portable; by land or by sea.....

Cheers, Jan K1ND

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>     1. Re: KX3 headset recommendation (KF5TEU)
>     2. Re: ERR FW2 (aa4nc at aol.com)
>     3. Re: KX3 headset recommendation (Richard Neese)
>     4. Re: ERR FW2 (Don Wilhelm)
>     5. Re: ERR FW2 (Ron D'Eau Claire)
>     6. Elecraft CW Net Announcement (kevinr)
>     7. Elecraft SSB net announcement (Phil Shepard)
>     8. Local oscillator off on my xv144 (W0WFH Bill)
>     9. Re: Elecraft k3 or kx3 (michael hardy )
>    10. KAT500: Tuning on 6m (KD7YZ Bob)
>    11. Re: Local oscillator off on my xv144 (David G4DMP)
>    12. Re: Local oscillator off on my xv144 (Don Wilhelm)
>    13. Re: Local oscillator off on my xv144 (Don Wilhelm)
>    14. Re: KAT500: Tuning on 6m (Don Wilhelm)
>    15. Re: [K2] N1MM Logger with KPA100 (Don Wilhelm)
>    16. Re: KAT500: Tuning on 6m (Goldtr8 (KD8NNU))
>    17. KX3 4 knobs and sea spray/salt corrosion (Dominic Baines)
>    18. OT - anyone have experience with effects of, metal roofs on
>        antenna performace? (eric manning)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 19:17:00 -0700 (PDT)
> From: KF5TEU <bhaden at flexbrite.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 headset recommendation
> Message-ID: <e9hdy5bop49lskv8tvuicyyv.1373767214976 at email.android.com>
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> O.K.
> I have the KPA100 ordered and the 500 hust got here so I will need the cable and I have it, came with my order as I addedvit in.
> I have the Heil headset as well for base use.
> So the PTT switch plugs into the ACC2 cable, that into ACC2 jack.
> Where are you using the mono 2.5mm headphone mono jack ?
> I have stereo headphones plugged into Phones.
>
> What are using for a mic, the little condenser type plugged directly into the Nic hack or a mic on the headsetvor what ?
> When menu is set to PTT kow , VOX isvoff then whenvyou push PTT does the mic become open for TX ?that iplugged in to Mic ?
> This means it has to be a buttonless nic ( no PTT ) so can I use a headset microphone like on standard cell phone or even Icom style ( different plug but maybe gain is high enough ) and just plug it's line into Mic ?
>
>
> 73
>
> kF5TEU
>
> Bill"Richard Neese [via Elecraft]" <ml-node+s365791n7576670h76 at n2.nabble.com> wrote:On 7/13/2013 10:28 AM, Christian AK4VV wrote:
>> You need the ACC2 breakout cable from Elecraft. The PTT switch from
>> Aircraft Spruce just plugs straight into that. You need to configure the
>> menu item to say you want the contact closure to enable PTT.
> you dont need the breakout cable to put a foot/hand ptt switch. you need
> a mono 2.5 mm headphone jack. and you need to fo into the menu and put
> the acc2 port into ptt_low.
>
> but if you plan to use a ptt and the amp then you need the breakout cable
>
> *KX3-PCKT Accessory Cable Set*
>
> ? ? The KX3-PCKT cable set interfaces between the Elecraft KX3 and
> ? ? personal computers, and provides convenient connection to an
> ? ? external foot switch and RF power amplifier./KX3-PCKT Instructions/
> ? ? <http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740169%20KX3-PCKT%20Cable%20Set%20Instructions%20Rev%200.pdf>
>
> ? ? 19.95
>
> is well woth the money . yoou get all the needed cabl for the kx3.
>
>> 73,
>> Christian
>> AK4VV
>> On Jul 12, 2013 3:48 AM, "KF5TEU" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> I ordered the aircraftsp
>>> What headset/mic/adapter were you using ?
>>> Thanks for the info.ruce PTT but I want to be sure I understand...you
>>> attached this PTT to the ACC2 port on the KX3 and youyou had a
>>> microphone/headset pluged into where exactly, mic in mic, headset in Phones
>>> or what ?
>>> Like others I'm looking for a wireless solution which may just be this PTT
>>> plus a musician style headset with mic and a pass-through wireless
>>> receiver/tx on the back of the KX3 that has a built in VOX to allow it to
>>> send and receive based on input either direction. No models yet but
>>> looking.
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 22:19:11 -0400 (EDT)
> From: aa4nc at aol.com
> To: ron at cobi.biz, elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ERR FW2
> Message-ID: <8D04E4FA9B8EE04-1028-8C456 at webmail-m147.sysops.aol.com>
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> I followed that procedure (EE Initialization / restored configuration) with no change. I am using the latest 1.13.5.9 K3 utility software.
>
> On SSB, now the radio will transmit about 5-10 seconds, then the power drops to zero and the monitored audio goes silent (although the transmit relay stays engaged). I am occasionally getting ERR FW2, and once I got a "New K3 UTIL software required" message on the front panel.
>
> I tested the radio on CW, where it performs similarly. After transmitting about 5 seconds, it goes into a solid keydown (on the sidetone) / no power output / transmit relay locked / ERR FW2.
>
> Anyone have any other ideas or is it time to ship it back to Elecraft?
>
> Tnx,
>
> Will
>
>
>
>
>   
>
>   
>
>   
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron D'Eau Claire <ron at cobi.biz>
> To: aa4nc <aa4nc at aol.com>; elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sat, Jul 13, 2013 4:36 pm
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] ERR FW2
>
>
> Per the Owner's manual the next step after reinstalling firmware is to
> reinitialize the parameters and reload your configuration file (pg 66 of the
> manual).
>
> 73, Ron AC7AC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of aa4nc at aol.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 1:07 PM
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] ERR FW2
>
> Operating the IARU contest and a previously solid K3 would cease putting out
> power, although it remained in transmit. After an hour of doing this
> intermittently, I started getting an ERR FW2. Power off/on would clear this.
> After another hour, I received a prompt on the front panel that mentioned
> something to the effect of "Use  K3 utlity program". After it locked up with
> the ERR FW2, I downloaded the latest utility and all new software - MCU
> 04.67, FPF 1.15, DSP1 2.81, DSP2 2.81.
>
>
> It worked for an hour and I started receiving the ERR FW2 again.
>
>
> Any ideas??
>
> 73/TNX,
>
> Will AA4NC
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 22:24:29 -0400
> From: Richard Neese <kb3vgw at gmail.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 headset recommendation
> Message-ID: <51E20BDD.3080909 at gmail.com>
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> On 7/13/2013 10:17 PM, KF5TEU wrote:
>> O.K.
>> I have the KPA100 ordered and the 500 hust got here so I will need the cable and I have it, came with my order as I addedvit in.
>> I have the Heil headset as well for base use.
>> So the PTT switch plugs into the ACC2 cable, that into ACC2 jack.
> yes
>> Where are you using the mono 2.5mm headphone mono jack ?
> the ptt switch/hand button is a acc2 is a 2.5 mm jack mono it you dont
> have the breakout cable. if you have the breakout cable then its a 3.5mm
> mono jack
>
>> I have stereo headphones plugged into Phones.
>>
>> What are using for a mic, the little condenser type plugged directly into the Nic hack or a mic on the headsetvor what ?
>> When menu is set to PTT kow , VOX isvoff then whenvyou push PTT does the mic become open for TX  that iplugged in to Mic ?
>> This means it has to be a buttonless nic ( no PTT ) so can I use a headset microphone like on standard cell phone or even Icom style ( different plug but maybe gain is high enough ) and just plug it's line into Mic ?
>>
> no you can use a standard desktop mic or a headset with a mic or a
> laptop mini mic. with a standard 3.5mm jack on it.
> you just have to change the mic bias setting in the menu to on, for this
> type of mic to work.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 22:34:42 -0400
> From: Don Wilhelm <w3fpr at embarqmail.com>
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ERR FW2
> Message-ID: <51E20E42.1040608 at embarqmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Err FW2 indicates a firmware problem.  Try reloading the firmware and if
> not successful, contact support/
>
>   From the K3 user manual
> " Try re-loading MCU firmware first; then
> try initializing parameters (pg. 66)".
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 7/13/2013 10:19 PM, aa4nc at aol.com wrote:
>> I followed that procedure (EE Initialization / restored configuration) with no change. I am using the latest 1.13.5.9 K3 utility software.
>>
>> On SSB, now the radio will transmit about 5-10 seconds, then the power drops to zero and the monitored audio goes silent (although the transmit relay stays engaged). I am occasionally getting ERR FW2, and once I got a "New K3 UTIL software required" message on the front panel.
>>
>> I tested the radio on CW, where it performs similarly. After transmitting about 5 seconds, it goes into a solid keydown (on the sidetone) / no power output / transmit relay locked / ERR FW2.
>>
>> Anyone have any other ideas or is it time to ship it back to Elecraft?
>>
>> Tnx,
>>
>> Will
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>    
>>
>>    
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ron D'Eau Claire <ron at cobi.biz>
>> To: aa4nc <aa4nc at aol.com>; elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Sat, Jul 13, 2013 4:36 pm
>> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] ERR FW2
>>
>>
>> Per the Owner's manual the next step after reinstalling firmware is to
>> reinitialize the parameters and reload your configuration file (pg 66 of the
>> manual).
>>
>> 73, Ron AC7AC
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of aa4nc at aol.com
>> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 1:07 PM
>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [Elecraft] ERR FW2
>>
>> Operating the IARU contest and a previously solid K3 would cease putting out
>> power, although it remained in transmit. After an hour of doing this
>> intermittently, I started getting an ERR FW2. Power off/on would clear this.
>> After another hour, I received a prompt on the front panel that mentioned
>> something to the effect of "Use  K3 utlity program". After it locked up with
>> the ERR FW2, I downloaded the latest utility and all new software - MCU
>> 04.67, FPF 1.15, DSP1 2.81, DSP2 2.81.
>>
>>
>> It worked for an hour and I started receiving the ERR FW2 again.
>>
>>
>> Any ideas??
>>
>> 73/TNX,
>>
>> Will AA4NC
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 19:36:36 -0700
> From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <ron at cobi.biz>
> To: <aa4nc at aol.com>,	<elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ERR FW2
> Message-ID: <002401ce803a$f703e850$e50bb8f0$@biz>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> One thing. Make sure there is *nothing* connected to the rig: no logging
> program, no computer, etc. Just the power supply, antenna, mic and key. RF
> getting into external devices can do weird things.
>
>   
>
> If that doesn't help,  call Elecraft customer support. The number is in your
> manual. They will lead you through any additional troubleshooting and then,
> if the problem isn't fixed, give you  the information for returning it for
> factory service.
>
>   
>
> 73, Ron AC7AC
>
>   
>
>   
>
>   
>
>   
>
> From: aa4nc at aol.com [mailto:aa4nc at aol.com]
> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 7:19 PM
> To: ron at cobi.biz; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ERR FW2
>
>   
>
> I followed that procedure (EE Initialization / restored configuration) with
> no change. I am using the latest 1.13.5.9 K3 utility software.
>
> On SSB, now the radio will transmit about 5-10 seconds, then the power drops
> to zero and the monitored audio goes silent (although the transmit relay
> stays engaged). I am occasionally getting ERR FW2, and once I got a "New K3
> UTIL software required" message on the front panel.
>
> I tested the radio on CW, where it performs similarly. After transmitting
> about 5 seconds, it goes into a solid keydown (on the sidetone) / no power
> output / transmit relay locked / ERR FW2.
>
> Anyone have any other ideas or is it time to ship it back to Elecraft?
>
> Tnx,
>
> Will
>
>
>
>   
>
>   
>
>   
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron D'Eau Claire <ron at cobi.biz>
> To: aa4nc <aa4nc at aol.com>; elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sat, Jul 13, 2013 4:36 pm
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] ERR FW2
>
> Per the Owner's manual the next step after reinstalling firmware is to
> reinitialize the parameters and reload your configuration file (pg 66 of the
> manual).
>   
> 73, Ron AC7AC
>   
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of aa4nc at aol.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 1:07 PM
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] ERR FW2
>   
> Operating the IARU contest and a previously solid K3 would cease putting out
> power, although it remained in transmit. After an hour of doing this
> intermittently, I started getting an ERR FW2. Power off/on would clear this.
> After another hour, I received a prompt on the front panel that mentioned
> something to the effect of "Use  K3 utlity program". After it locked up with
> the ERR FW2, I downloaded the latest utility and all new software - MCU
> 04.67, FPF 1.15, DSP1 2.81, DSP2 2.81.
>   
>   
> It worked for an hour and I started receiving the ERR FW2 again.
>   
>   
> Any ideas??
>   
> 73/TNX,
>   
> Will AA4NC
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 19:37:11 -0700
> From: kevinr <kevinr at coho.net>
> To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
> Message-ID: <51E20ED7.2000605 at coho.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Good Evening,
>      A fine week in the Pacific Northwest.  The dry season is here with
> no rain in sight.  Just the morning fog dropping its normal amount of
> moisture.  The hummingbirds have been very active catching insects
> between the fir branches.  I am also seeing elk sign every time I go for
> a hike.  I never see the sneaky beasts but they are all around me.
>
>      Propagation has been fairly good the times I have tried it. The sun
> has been adding its daily dose of ions with no really big blasts.  I
> have heard some static from it but not enough to limit communications.
> The QSB it causes is more of an impediment.
>
>      Please join us tomorrow afternoon and evening.
>
> 1) Hail signs  (first letter or two of the suffix of your call)
> 2) NCS help  (as well as QSP/QNP <relay> help)
>
> Sunday 2200z (Sunday 3 PM PDT) 14050 kHz
> Monday 0100z (Sunday 6 PM PDT)  7045 kHz
>
>          Stay well,
>             Kevin.  KD5ONS
>
> -
>
>
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>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 19:50:00 -0700
> From: Phil Shepard <phils at riousa.com>
> To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB net announcement
> Message-ID: <F7F85EA0-625C-4A44-9E55-48885C28AAEB at riousa.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> The weekly Elecraft SSB net will meet tomorrow (7/14/13) at 1800z on 14.3035 MHz.  I will be net control from western Oregon.  See you there.
>
> 73,
> Phil, NS7P
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 21:08:59 -0700 (PDT)
> From: W0WFH Bill <w0wfh at yahoo.com>
> To: elecraft forum <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] Local oscillator off on my xv144
> Message-ID:
> 	<1373774939.60165.YahooMailNeo at web122002.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> I need to set the local oscillator frequency on my
> XV144. When used with the K2, I just changed the frequency
> display in the K2's menu.? But now I want to use the
> transverter with another radio on 28Mhz an the 144Mhz
> is 1.5 Khz high in frequency.? Now on the XV50 there is
> a variable capacitor to set the frequency but on the XV144
> I find nothing am I overlooking something?? Please contact
> me direct. w0wfh at yahoo.com? 73, Bill
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 12:01:42 +0100
> From: "michael hardy " <M1KEY at talktalk.net>
> To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft k3 or kx3
> Message-ID: <003601ce7fb8$5b724ad0$1256e070$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"
>
>
> Hi all,
> Just been cheeky really i have a icom 7410 with the roofing filters and its
> mint with a yaesu ft736r 2/70/50mhz comes with mutec board for 2/70
> Would like to exchange for early basic k3, or swap icom 7410 for kx3?
>
>
> MIKE M0FCG M1KEY
> 07735578568
>
>
> I093GM SE30 BARNSLEY
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 07:43:28 -0400
> From: KD7YZ Bob <kd7yz at denstarfarm.us>
> To: "'K3 List'" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500: Tuning on 6m
> Message-ID: <605628568.20130714074328 at denstarfarm.us>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Howdy K3' people:
>
> There is an 8-element yagi connected to the KAT500 for the K3 internal
> 6m selected 6m antenna.
>
> I set KAT500 default antenna for 6m to Ant2.
>
> On the KAT500 I can press 'TUNE' then tap K3 "XMIT" and the KAT500 will
> usually settle on or about 1.1:1 .
>
> Then when I .run a WSJT, Data, QSO, if the KAT500 is left in "AUTO",
> re-tuning will often take occupy 10 or more seconds of the time before
> the KAT500 finds a place it likes. Often the SWR is then in the RED or
> worse, FAULT. Not very often on FAULT however.
>
> Mostly what I see are SWR's around 2:1 .  (KAT500 in AUTO .
>
> If I put KAT500 in BYP,  the K3 often shows SWR's of 2 to 3.
>
> If left in AUTO, the mismatch is apparent in received audio.
>
> Without the KAT500, the antenna itself exhibits a 1.3 SWR consistently .
>
> The constant re-tuning or irregular attenuation due to mismatch form
> KAT500 is annoying. On a weak-signal QSOit means the difference from
> making the QSO or not decoding.



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