[Elecraft] Will the K2 and KX3 work with the P3?

Don Wilhelm w3fpr at embarqmail.com
Wed Aug 28 20:06:05 EDT 2013


Michael,

There are some who would want to do just that.  I recently had a 
customer who wanted to use his LP-Pam or P3 with his K2;  I added the 
Clifton Labs Z10000-k2 for him.  He already had the LP-Pan and the P3 
available.

Yes, if one does not have those devices available, the price of the 
Flex-1500  becomes attractive, but that may not satisfy all the 
customer's parameters.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/28/2013 7:36 PM, Michael Babineau wrote:
> Terry et al :
>
> Clifton Laboratories makes a product called the Z10000B (http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/k2_interface.htm)
> that will add a IF port to the K2 or Orion, suitable for use with the LP-PAN and P3.
>
> To get back to the original question, I am not sure how many people would want to add a P3 to a K2 ?
> For the price of the P3 (or even an LP-Pan) you could pick up a new Flex-1500.
>
> Michael VE3WMB
>
>
>> From: <wb4jfi at knology.net>
>> Date: August 28, 2013 12:38:40 AM EDT
>> To: "Tom" <tomb18 at videotron.ca>, "Elecraft" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Will the K2 and KX3 work with the P3?
>
>> I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish here with the KX3, pardon if I mis-interpret.
>> Using a P3 requires that two issues be resolved: 1) control and, 2) RF signal input.
>> P3 control is via the serial RS232 connection, and can be figured out.
>> However, the P3 wants to a single RF signal at its IF input.  It then goes through a typical DDC-based SDR approach, including an FFT, to display the spectrum.  The P3 works with the 8.215MHz IF output of >the K3 (or many other RF-frequency range, IF signals).  The KX3 does NOT have a single  RF/IF output at the proper frequency.   Instead, it has an I/Q output pair at audio frequencies (0Hz-approx 48kHz or >so) from the internal QSD.  You would need to upconvert that I/Q pair back to a single RF signal in order to feed it to the P3.  That's a lot of work, with much simpler solutions available.
>> I don't know much about the K2.  Looking at the manual, internally, it has an 4.9152MHz IF, but I don't think that's available on a connector, or if the drive level is buffered and adequate.  If so, you could use a >P3 with a K2 I suppose.  The IF would need to be tapped BEFORE the crystal filtering. I do NOT see an IF output connector, and only one transistor buffer between the mixer and the crystal filters.
>> The KX3 I/Q output is set up to feed into a typical computer sound card (stereo, line-in) and a Softrock SDR-type program, which is easier than trying to jerry-rig a P3.  You can potentially use a CAT interface >with the KX3 to query the current frequency, for SDR software display.  I have NOT one this directly, so I don't know what SDR software support that.
>> 73, Terry, WB4JFI
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