Here is a good place to discuss antennae: Antennas at mailman.qth.net Here is a good place to complain about trouble with ham radio vendors: http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php/board,37.0.html Enjoy, 73, Tom Amateur Radio Operator N5GE ARRL Lifetime Member QCWA Lifetime Member 73, Tom Amateur Radio Operator N5GE ARRL Lifetime Member QCWA Lifetime Member