[Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 101, Issue 50

[Corey Schneoder]

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>   1. Re: Fwd:  sending computer morse? (Vic K2VCO)
>   2. Re: Fwd:  sending computer morse? (Don Wilhelm)
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> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 08:30:37 -0700
> From: Vic K2VCO <k2vco.vic at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fwd:  sending computer morse?
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
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> It depends a lot on what your computer is doing. For years I used DTR keying with N1MM and 
> a slow computer, and I couldn't understand why people claimed that there were problems 
> with this. But I never operate 'assisted' by Internet connections, clusters, etc. in 
> contests. So that may be the reason it worked as well as it did.
> 
> Anyway I recently got a Winkey USB, and was surprised at how much better the 
> computer-generated CW sounded! Also, the Winkey offers PTT switching that is smoother and 
> faster than the semi-QSK in the K3.
> 
> The one downside (for me) is that I absolutely /hate/ the stand-alone keyer function. I 
> just cannot send with it without making lots of errors, despite trying numerous settings 
> of the paddle sensing function.
> 
> I am used to mode B iambic keying, and I set all my keyers for that mode. The best one for 
> me is the Idiom Press Logikey K3. It is better than the internal K3 keyer, which is better 
> than the Winkey. So I still use the Logikey for my hand sending.
> 
> On 9/27/2012 6:48 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Keying via DTR or RTS will work with the simple transistor circuit, but
>> it is subject to timing problems created by the operating system.  There
>> is no way for an application to directly control a port, so the
>> application has to pass the request to the operating system and then the
>> operating system will control the port when it deems appropriate.  That
>> may be OK at slow CW speeds, but the timing becomes more critical at
>> higher speeds.  Enter the WinKeyer to solve that problem.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>> 
>> On 9/26/2012 4:26 PM, Matt Maguire wrote:
>>> You can do it cheaper by building a simple transistor circuit that allows you computer to key the radio via the computer's RS232 serial port. Not quite as good as a Winkeyer, but gets you on air very quickly so you can have a play.
>>> 
>>> 73, Matt VK2ACL
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> -- 
> Vic, K2VCO
> Fresno CA
> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:43:33 -0400
> From: Don Wilhelm <w3fpr at embarqmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fwd:  sending computer morse?
> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <50647425.6070107 at embarqmail.com>
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> Vic,
> 
> Each to his own style, but the WinKeyer also provides Ultimatic mode 
> which is the only mode I can use with a dual lever paddle.  With a 
> single lever, it does not matter.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 9/27/2012 11:30 AM, Vic K2VCO wrote:
>> It depends a lot on what your computer is doing. For years I used DTR keying with N1MM and
>> a slow computer, and I couldn't understand why people claimed that there were problems
>> with this. But I never operate 'assisted' by Internet connections, clusters, etc. in
>> contests. So that may be the reason it worked as well as it did.
>> 
>> Anyway I recently got a Winkey USB, and was surprised at how much better the
>> computer-generated CW sounded! Also, the Winkey offers PTT switching that is smoother and
>> faster than the semi-QSK in the K3.
>> 
>> The one downside (for me) is that I absolutely /hate/ the stand-alone keyer function. I
>> just cannot send with it without making lots of errors, despite trying numerous settings
>> of the paddle sensing function.
>> 
>> I am used to mode B iambic keying, and I set all my keyers for that mode. The best one for
>> me is the Idiom Press Logikey K3. It is better than the internal K3 keyer, which is better
>> than the Winkey. So I still use the Logikey for my hand sending.
> 
> 
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