[Elecraft] K3; Eric, Wayne, a feature for the wish list

Fri May 11 13:02:27 EDT 2012

Howdy, folks;

     I really do think some of the thought processes have gone to the 
extreme.  I happen to know the fellow who had presented the original 
point or desire for a "courtesy beep" function.  Dick (Richard) is very 
well qualified, is an extremely good example of all phases of 
communications, courtesy, etc., etc.

     There are some responses that make Dick look like he just got his 
brand new "ham ticket" but still yearns for the good old days, when his 
radio would send a series of three to five beeps or whoops.  No, Dick is 
about as far from the CB lingo and operation as one can imagine.  This 
is nit to say that "this sort of communication" is wrong or bad, but 
most might agree that might not like to endure a whoop at the end of 
every radio transmission.

     Dick had mentioned that he uses a headset.  His PTT function is 
quite to the point that is is virtually non-existent.  Now, if he or 
others have a relaxed, slow speech "gait" (for the lack of a better 
word) the words that stop being voiced may be a simple PAUSE as a 
further thought is being considered, or it might simply be the end of 
what he had to say at that moment.  -Now all of you know this, but I 
just wanted to be clear as to how this might almost "invite" another 
person to jump in with a "seemingly fit" reply. -Which might actually 
occurring at the same time that the other party resumes his statements.  
(DOUBLING, in other words...)

      I also do NOT want or like the thought of a chat that involves a 
harsh set of beeps!  I do not like the thought of even ONE offensive beep.

     To be effective, a "noise" that lets others know that a PTT button 
has been released should (stressing SHOULD, here) be subtle.  If a 
"courtesy beep" is made up of only a few cycles of an audio tone, it 
largely becomes a CLICK.  THIS would be good, in my opinion.  The 
"click" should also be LOW IN AMPLITUDE.  -This would also be good.

     The problem is this:  The K3 is TOO GOOD!  One cannot tell is the 
radio has stopped transmitting!  A little low-amplitude click or beep is 
a valid thought.  One could make the end-of-transmission "announcement" 
as long and as loud as desired or might be deemed needed.  Or, it can be 
TURNED OFF, just like the two-tone generator that Dick had mentioned.  
(We'd still have control over the "Roger Beep..!)  (I'd hope...)

     Sincere 73 to all who might consider;   -Mike-   KØJTA

On 5/10/12 4:21 PM, Adrian wrote:
>
> Yes Gary, Elecraft made the K3 "CB Proof", lets keep it that way, no 
> roger
> beeps thanks...
>
> Adrian ... vk4tux
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Gregory" <garyvk4fd at gmail.com>
>> To: "Richard Fjeld" <rpfjeld at embarqmail.com>
>> Cc: "elecraft posting" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 8:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3; Eric, Wayne, a feature for the wish list
>>
>>
>> *Oh no please, no more Roger Beeps...my hearing get's rattled with the
>> sharp tone generated by some of these Rogef Beeps heard on 20M lately.
>>
>> There is enough beeps, squeeks, rattles from clunky microphones, over
>> driven compression, key clicks and the list goes on. Lets not add more
>> noises to the bands.
>>
>> Placing a sign on the radio with "OVER" in bold type could serve as a
>> reminder for those of us who forget at times to end an over in an
>> appropriate way and that creates no additional noise.
>>
>> Using headphones here all the time I have noticed when working weak 
>> signals
>> that when a Roger Beep is used it produces a sharp spike in the audio 
>> which
>> is distracting and in my case very annoying.
>>
>> I would strongly voice my opposition to such an addition if it were 
>> to be
>> considered.
>>
>> YMMV
>>
>> Gary
>> *
>> On 11 May 2012 06:02, Richard Fjeld <rpfjeld at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You have some excellent menu options in the K3, even a built-in 2-tone
>>> generator for checking SSB.  There is the SW Tone option to aid 
>>> visually
>>> impaired people, and others, know when something is turned on, or 
>>> off, by
>>> it's tones.  Also, I understand there is Elecraft software that 
>>> speaks from
>>> a computer as controls are used. I think your f/w and s/w are 
>>> excellent.
>>>
>>> Some of the hams I round-table with are up in the years, and 
>>> struggle to
>>> hear.  I use a headset mike which makes no mechanical sound when I 
>>> release
>>> the remote PTT.  They can't tell when I release it unless I say 
>>> 'over'. I
>>> optioned CW+SSB, but I often forget to tap the paddle when I'm done 
>>> talking.
>>>
>>> Knowing I run a K3, I have been asked if it could be optioned to 
>>> beep when
>>> the PTT is released.
>>>
>>> For your consideration, and thanks.
>>>
>>> Richard Fjeld, NØCE
>>> rpfjeld at embarqmail.com
>>> I'd rather be learning.
>>>
>>>
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>> -- 
>> Gary
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