[Elecraft] OCF antennas

[David Gilbert]

Jim  ... read your last paragraph.  That's exactly what several of us 
were doing here when Hisashi wrote his first post on the topic.

Dave  AB7E


On 3/10/2012 10:17 PM, Jim Miller KG0KP wrote:
> Ian, I am with you on this.  jmho that starting with whatever you can put up
> and for whatever reason that is all you can do at the time.  If a new person
> doesn't get on the air "fast" he will soon lose interest.  He is interested
> NOW, get him up and running and not next month or even next week if
> possible, NOW.
>
> I have also seen people with the location and resources who were excited and
> able to build an optimal station as their first station and do it all at
> once.  Wrong thing to do.  He built it, could talk anywhere and mostly
> anytime and within a year he was totally bored with it and never used it
> again and not long after sold it all.
>
> Coming up through "all the pains" of not having it all at once and learning
> what is better and why, trying to determine what will fit within the
> restrictions they are saddled with and taking the next step, making that
> better and then moving on is a great way to grow in knowledge and experience
> in building antennas.  Another way to gain experience is to assist in the
> antenna parties in the area.
>
> In the beginning, waiting is wrong.  Just DO it, operate, and ask questions,
> read, participate, join a club, BE where other hams are, LISTEN, learn,
> grow, modify, add, ask for help, try other antennas.
>
> as I said, jmho,
> 73, de Jim KG0KP
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ian Kahn - Ham"<km4ik.ian at gmail.com>
> To:<elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 4:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OCF antennas
>
>
>> Dave,  I wish to disagree with you on this point.  Yes, this is a
>> knowledge-based hobby.  However, I learned enough to pass my exams and
>> got a wire in the trees so I could get on the air.  I've spent my time
>> since then learning.  You have the rest of your life to study and
>> learn.  We have no clue how long this sunspot cycle and good propagation
>> conditions will last.
>>
>> Just my two cents' worth.  I'll shut up now.
>>
>> --Ian
>>
>> Ian Kahn, KM4IK
>> Roswell, GA
>> km4ik.ian at gmail.com
>> K3 #281, P3 #688
>>
>>
>> On 3/10/2012 2:18 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
>>> Ham radio being a knowledge-based hobby, some people prefer to
>>> understand what they're doing.  Apparently others don't seem to care.
>>>
>>> Dave   AB7E
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/9/2012 9:49 PM, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote:
>>>> So let me say one thing I know about antennas:
>>>>
>>>> PUT SOMETHING UP AND GET ON THE AIR.
>>>>
>>>> You can get perfect up, and you can get OK up. You an argue about what
>>>> works better and what works worse. But when the bands are open, you
>>>> might be able to work DX with a cantenna under your desk. (I've heard
>>>> stories.)
>>>>
>>>> I used an untuned dipole with a LDG tuner to work my first (and only)
>>>> DXCC back in the last sunspot cycle.
>>>>
>>>> So what I'm saying is put something up FIRST and then start the arguing,
>>>> I mean, discussion.
>>>>
>>>> (But then again there are all sorts of aspects to the hobby and if
>>>> you're
>>>> here to argue you can if you want.)
>>>>
>>> ____