[Elecraft] OCF antennas

[Hisashi T Fujinaka]

What I object to is the tone of your reply. I certainly said if you want
to argue this to death, you can because that's an aspect of our hobby.

You're saying I'm wrong, and I'm just trying to advocate for the guy who
wants to get on the air FIRST, with something GOOD ENOUGH, and tinker
LATER. Also, remember there are lot of variables that aren't taken into
account and even if your antenna is better than mine, I might get out
better because of my location. You can't know everything.

So, geez, I've been trying to tone down my replies to you because you
sound like you're mad all the time and that annoys me as well. I'm just
advocating for more people to get on the air so I can work them.

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012, David Gilbert wrote:

> That's not the point.  There are those who enjoy ham radio for what they
> learn from it, and from optimizing their stations.  There are others who
> simply enjoy operating and don't really care much what is behind it.
> Either are perfectly valid (this is a hobby, after all), but you're the
> one who seems to think that the latter has some level of esteem that the
> former does not.  It doesn't.  Some people like to build high
> performance cars but never drive them ... others couldn't care less
> what's under the hood and just want to race.  Nobody is telling you to
> put your mic down and rigorously analyze your antennas ...  don't tell
> the rest of us to quit trying to learn from each other on this forum so
> we can spend more time telling somebody what our weather is like.
>
> Dave  AB7E
>
>
>
>
> On 3/10/2012 6:10 PM, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote:
>> I went to MIT. I can analyze the crap out of this if I feel like it.
>>
>> Or I can work DX and ragchew.
>>
>> Like I said, you use the hobby for what you want and I'm a proponent of
>> the proverb that says, "Perfect is the enemy of the good."
>>
>> On Sat, 10 Mar 2012, David Gilbert wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Ham radio being a knowledge-based hobby, some people prefer to
>>> understand what they're doing.  Apparently others don't seem to care.
>>>
>>> Dave   AB7E
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/9/2012 9:49 PM, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote:
>>>> So let me say one thing I know about antennas:
>>>>
>>>> PUT SOMETHING UP AND GET ON THE AIR.
>>>>
>>>> You can get perfect up, and you can get OK up. You an argue about what
>>>> works better and what works worse. But when the bands are open, you
>>>> might be able to work DX with a cantenna under your desk. (I've heard
>>>> stories.)
>>>>
>>>> I used an untuned dipole with a LDG tuner to work my first (and only)
>>>> DXCC back in the last sunspot cycle.
>>>>
>>>> So what I'm saying is put something up FIRST and then start the
>>>> arguing,
>>>> I mean, discussion.
>>>>
>>>> (But then again there are all sorts of aspects to the hobby and if
>>>> you're
>>>> here to argue you can if you want.)
>>>>
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