[Elecraft] OCF antennas

[Jim Miller KG0KP]

Ian, I am with you on this.  jmho that starting with whatever you can put up 
and for whatever reason that is all you can do at the time.  If a new person 
doesn't get on the air "fast" he will soon lose interest.  He is interested 
NOW, get him up and running and not next month or even next week if 
possible, NOW.

I have also seen people with the location and resources who were excited and 
able to build an optimal station as their first station and do it all at 
once.  Wrong thing to do.  He built it, could talk anywhere and mostly 
anytime and within a year he was totally bored with it and never used it 
again and not long after sold it all.

Coming up through "all the pains" of not having it all at once and learning 
what is better and why, trying to determine what will fit within the 
restrictions they are saddled with and taking the next step, making that 
better and then moving on is a great way to grow in knowledge and experience 
in building antennas.  Another way to gain experience is to assist in the 
antenna parties in the area.

In the beginning, waiting is wrong.  Just DO it, operate, and ask questions, 
read, participate, join a club, BE where other hams are, LISTEN, learn, 
grow, modify, add, ask for help, try other antennas.

as I said, jmho,
73, de Jim KG0KP




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ian Kahn - Ham" <km4ik.ian at gmail.com>
To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OCF antennas


> Dave,  I wish to disagree with you on this point.  Yes, this is a
> knowledge-based hobby.  However, I learned enough to pass my exams and
> got a wire in the trees so I could get on the air.  I've spent my time
> since then learning.  You have the rest of your life to study and
> learn.  We have no clue how long this sunspot cycle and good propagation
> conditions will last.
>
> Just my two cents' worth.  I'll shut up now.
>
> --Ian
>
> Ian Kahn, KM4IK
> Roswell, GA
> km4ik.ian at gmail.com
> K3 #281, P3 #688
>
>
> On 3/10/2012 2:18 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
>> Ham radio being a knowledge-based hobby, some people prefer to
>> understand what they're doing.  Apparently others don't seem to care.
>>
>> Dave   AB7E
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/9/2012 9:49 PM, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote:
>>> So let me say one thing I know about antennas:
>>>
>>> PUT SOMETHING UP AND GET ON THE AIR.
>>>
>>> You can get perfect up, and you can get OK up. You an argue about what
>>> works better and what works worse. But when the bands are open, you
>>> might be able to work DX with a cantenna under your desk. (I've heard
>>> stories.)
>>>
>>> I used an untuned dipole with a LDG tuner to work my first (and only)
>>> DXCC back in the last sunspot cycle.
>>>
>>> So what I'm saying is put something up FIRST and then start the arguing,
>>> I mean, discussion.
>>>
>>> (But then again there are all sorts of aspects to the hobby and if 
>>> you're
>>> here to argue you can if you want.)
>>>
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