[Elecraft] dual-input monitors...

Matthew Pitts daywalker_blade_2004 at yahoo.com
Sun Jan 15 09:57:04 EST 2012


Joe,

While I respect the decision made on this particular module for the P3, I would like to say that I probably wouldn't buy it if I already had two monitors (or more) on the desk at my operating position. For someone that is in that position and already owns the P3, the suggestion to buy something else that would have to be connected in place of the P3 (or in parallel with it) isn't something that is going to be well liked.

Matthew Pitts
N8OHU

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From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists at subich.com>
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Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 09:34:23 
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] dual-input monitors...


> Technically, this would have been fairly easy...a small helper
> program (perhaps similar to flrig) would run on the PC and present
> the P3/SVGA output in a window. Instead, the person who made the
> design decision at Elecraft, chose to/*require */a dedicated monitor
> to present the P3/SVGA output.

No, the person who made the design decision at Elecraft chose not to
add additional hardware that would *further increase the cost* and waste 
time/effort to develop a series of display programs for multiple 
operating systems that would benefit a vanishingly small number of
potential users.

Again, if you want a windowed display, get SDR-IQ/SpectraVue or LP-PAN
with a sound card and "son of PowerSDR".  Both of those solutions are
available today and cost less than the P3/P3SVGA with another monitor.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 1/15/2012 6:30 AM, John Ragle wrote:
> Barry...
>
>       (I am trying not to prolong this thread on the Elecraft
> reflector...this will be my last thrust) Your idea to use dual-input
> monitors has come up repeatedly in the form of an "A-B Switch" for
> monitors. It is an extension of the primitive idea that one would
> un-plug one video source from a monitor and plug the second source into it.
>
>       On my work desk, which I feel is reasonably typical, I am using one
> large monitor for everyday business on my PC, and a second one to
> run/monitor my ham radio stuff. I simply don't have space to use a 3rd
> monitor, though I have several that could be scavenged...
>
>       Moreover, I don't want to give up the "live" monitoring of the
> windows that are in use...email, QRZ.com, vhf_info, fldigi, etc.
> So...along with a number of others who write to the E'craft server...I
> feel it would have been much more convenient if the P3/SVGA output were
> "windowed" on one of one's present monitors.
>
>       Technically, this would have been fairly easy...a small helper
> program (perhaps similar to flrig) would run on the PC and present the
> P3/SVGA output in a window. Instead, the person who made the design
> decision at Elecraft, chose to/*require */a dedicated monitor to present
> the P3/SVGA output.
>
>       Recently, someone suggested use of frame-grabber or similar
> technology (e.g. http://rgb.com/) for this function. Unfortunately
> commercial units to do this are 10X more expensive than the price of the
> SVGA adapter + a small monitor to hook it to...
>
>       So...there is no alternative to the "A-B" switch idea, or hanging a
> 3rd monitor from the ceiling. Actually, the screen on the P3 is not a
> bad solution. In my case however, the P3 lives a fair stretch of the arm
> from the operating position, and I had hoped to add the SVGA to put the
> output more directly in front of me.
>
> John Ragle -- W1ZI
>
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