[Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards

Thu Aug 30 21:14:08 EDT 2012

I'm sorry, Larry, but I have to totally disagree with you about the 0204. Yes, it works well on an XP machine but why have they only
released beta drivers for it when it was first manufactured but have failed to build any newer drivers? Why is it you cannot
download ANY drivers for this from their own website? I will search tomorrow but I will find the posts in Creative's own forums from
people that used it in real hard core audio apps. The box snaps, crackles and pops and drops out. I could not even get it to work
for longer than an hour on 96kHz. Yes, that is a HUGE complaint among the audiophiles.

I do agree on the 2496. It is a very good stable card. I have found the ASUS cards to work pretty well also. The Xonar Essence and
the Xonar DG have been running here very well for 6 months. I still have not been about to get the 1212m PCIe to work but have not
spent a lot of time on it.

It seems to me none of the creative cards work very well. They always have some sort of mirror image.

I am judging these cards using CWSkimmer. With that application you cannot have any mirror image or it spots those mirror images
erroneously. Most people can get away with mirror images that are down from the main signal as they would never know they are there.

73,
Tim Herrick, KQ8M
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-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of N8LP
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:52 PM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards

I'm not sure what problems you're having, but the 0202 and 0204 in my tests
perform better than any of adozen cards I have tested except the E-MU 1212m.
The 0204 has the edge over the 0202 in terms of flexibility when it comes to
win7/64. If you don't need 192kHz, I highly recommend the M-Audio Audiophile
2496 PCI card at $75. The ASUS cards are good at 96kHz, but fall apart at
192kHz. The Delta 44 was once the best card out there, and it's still
decent, but I haven't used one in several years, whereas I have the others
all still installed on my shack PC.

73,
Larry N8LP

KQ8M wrote
> 
> I'm sorry but it is true. I have 2 0204's and neither work for crap on Win
> 7. I have been on Creative's forums and read all of the
> big audiophile's that used the 0204 on XP but cannot get it to work worth
> dung on Vista or Win 7. I have tried. Go to Creative's
> website and see if you can download drivers for an 0204 for ANY Windows
> platform!
> 
>  
> 
> 73,
> 
> Tim Herrick, KQ8M
> 
> Charter Member North Coast Contesters
> 
> kq8m@
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> From: Jim Rhodes [mailto:jimk0xu@] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:21 PM
> To: KQ8M
> Cc: Matthew Zilmer; Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft at .qth
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards
> 
>  
> 
> That is really not true. The 0204 is Win7 compatible out of the box (or at
> least claims to be, I don't own one). The 0202 has beta
> drivers for Win7 that have been working just fine for me on Win7 Ultimate
> 64 bit for over a year now and I just picked up another
> for portable operation and loaded the drivers on a netbook running Win7
> Starter 32 bit. So yes, the drivers won't automagically
> load, but it took me about 5 minutes to find, download the drivers (and
> that includes working around a server error on Creative's
> server) and install them.
> 
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:33 AM, KQ8M &lt;kq8m@&gt; wrote:
> 
> Those two don't work very well with Win 7 though.
> 
> 73,
> Tim Herrick, KQ8M
> Charter Member North Coast Contesters
> kq8m@
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at .qth [mailto:elecraft-bounces at .qth] On Behalf Of
> Matthew Zilmer
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:19 PM
> To: Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft at .qth
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards
> 
> The Creative Labs EMU-0202 and -0204 seem to have a following too.
> 
> Matt Zilmer, W6NIA
> In status quo voluntas non sufficit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at .qth [mailto:elecraft-bounces at .qth] On Behalf Of
> Bill Conkling
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:18 AM
> To: Ken Roberson; elecraft at .qth
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards
> 
> There well may be others that work well, but the Delta 44 has a long track
> record as one of the best and lots of info available and
> happy users.
> 
> ....bill nr4c
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid
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> -----Original message-----
> From: Ken Roberson &lt;kwroberson@&gt;
> To: elecraft at .qth
> Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 15:22:18 GMT+00:00
> Subject: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards
> 
> 
> 
> Hello ALL,
> 
> 
> 
> Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for
> 
> SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44?
> 
> I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards,
> 
> Will any of those cards work?
> 
> I don't need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine.
> OFF line would be fine
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for your help
> 
> 
> 
> Ken K5DNL
> 
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