[Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?

[Rich]

I'm curious, where has Elecraft advertised or marketed the KX3 as a 
"base station" radio?  My quick review only finds portable operation 
references.  The only references to base station use I find is from user 
comments.  Am I missing  something?

Rich
NU6T

On 8/4/2012 6:42 AM, Oliver Dröse wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
>
> all your points are perfectly okay. It is not about how to handle it and if does physically fit or not, it is about expectations from Elecraft's marketing. I have no problem with pluggin headphones or external speakers in. Nevertheless I would still expect from a rig marketed (not designed!) as a base station rig to provide sufficient audio from it's internal speaker. And it's nothing new or magic, even the now 11 years old FT-817 provides enough "oomph" from it's internal speaker if wanted. ;-)
>
> So again, it's only about expectations that marketing awakes. Just some food for thought to Elecraft. The same applies when a rig is marketed as having 2 voice keyer memories to name a dedicated feature. As a buyer reading that marketing sentences I simply expect when I switch on the rig that I will be able to use those 2 voice memories. But wait, they are not there! Uuh. Elecraft said, it will take a few more month'! Well, this is not what I expect when I read their datasheets and prospects. They are stirring up expectations they cannot hold for the moment, especially for first time buyers!
>
> Again, I personally have no problem with all this, I can wait and use my own voice keyer solutions (just to stay with this one example) in-between. Nevertheless we have a few first-time Elecraft buyers overhere who are quite disappointed about what is not functioning yet although features are described in the user manual as well as marketed in the ads. Nobody told them that those features will only be available a few month' or even a year later. >From discussions I know that some of them will never buy from Elecraft again. Those customers are lost and that's a pity.
>
> So it is all about wrongly set expectations through marketing (and yes, every customer might expect different things - that's why good marketing is not really easy ... otherwise everybody could do it ;-)). Long time Elecraft users (like myself) know what to expect and how new transceivers evolve over time. New users don't. They simply expect to find working what they read in the manual and ads when they first switch on the rig. They take it for granted as they are used to it from all other radio manufacturers and daily-used electronics, too!
>
> 73, Olli - DH8BQA
>
>
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Thomas Horsten
>    To: Oliver Dröse
>    Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>    Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 1:49 PM
>    Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Unhappy With Your KX3?
>
>
>    Hi Olli,
>
>
>    Agree that it is marketed as a multi-purpose rig and it does it damned well too. With external powered speakers I would expect it to be excellent and that's my experience with it too. If it doesn't play well with the external speakers how can it play well with headphones.
>
>
>    With just the internal speaker, sorry but did you actually look at the size of that thing, considering its size it actually performs really well, but not to hook up external speakers when used as a base station rig is IMHO just foolish, the internal speaker is fine for operating outside on the terrace table or out in the woods (in relatively quiet surroundings), but if you have it in your shack then what's the big problem hooking up external speakers and getting *excellent* audio with stereo FX and dual watch.
>
>
>    The K3 has a much bigger speaker (surprise surprise) but even that misses the stereo (essential with the sub receiver) and it's got *nothing* on my AudioEngine A2 speakers, which I use for both my K3 and KX3 in the shack.
>
>
>    In general I find it nicer to operate with speakers than with headset but for portable operations a headset is sometimes the most practical, and also at home if there are other people in the house doing noisy things or not appreciating the sounds from the rig.
>
>
>    73, Thomas M0TRN
>
>
>    On 4 August 2012 11:59, Oliver Dröse <droese at necg.de> wrote:
>
>      Hi Jim,
>
>      well, I would not agree on that points with you. Elecraft is marketing the
>      KX3 as a backpack AND desktop radio (with not available KXPA100 and
>      KXAT100). They also lay some emphazise on it being perfectly for newcomers,
>      etc. So I expect it to work with the internal speaker in shack situations,
>      too, not only with headphones. As I would expect from any other radio, too.
>      But the KX3 does the job okay in the (quiet) shack, as long as you don't
>      expect it to provide sound & loudness like a stereo system. ;-)
>
>      73, Olli - DH8BQA
>
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