[Elecraft] D-Star

[Don Wilhelm]

Matthew,

No need for debate - just need for open source software to replace the 
D-Star proprietary stuff.

When that open source software is available, I will strongly consider 
it.  There is a lot of function (particularly for ECOMM) that is useful.
In the meantime, I stand by my position that proprietary codecs (or 
software or anything) do not have a proper place in ham radio.  I guess 
this comes from my mental stance that the airways are free within the 
limits of our license privileges - I was a ham back in the mid-1950's, 
when things were not as complex - the big decision was AM or SSB at that 
time.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/28/2012 11:07 PM, Matthew Pitts wrote:
> Leaving aside the proprietary codec, much of the specification has been implemented as open source software; for those that don't like the codec, there is work progressing on a replacement, which I am following closely. For what it's worth, this is the second time today I've had this debate, and hopefully I'm making sense about it.
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>> ________________________________
>> From: Sandy<ebjr37 at charter.net>
>> To: don at w3fpr.com; Greg Troxel<gdt at work.lexort.com>
>> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 10:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] D-Star
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>> Amen, amen!  Ditto for the Proprietery PACTOR III !!!!  Or anything else
>> "Proprietary" PERIOD!
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>> This isn't what ham radio is all about!  Can't agree with you more Don!
>>
>> 73,
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>> Sandy W5TVW
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Don Wilhelm
>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 8:42 PM
>> To: Greg Troxel
>> Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] D-Star
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>> I agree fully, despite the article in the May issue of QST which glosses
>> over the proprietary nature of D-Star.
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>> I am opposed to the use of proprietary protocols in ham radio.  Ham
>> radio to me is free radio.  I have passed my license requirements, and
>> should be able to use whatever modulation techniques are authorized by
>> the FCC.  The thought of paying for a license (even though that payment
>> may be bundled with a transceiver purchase) is foreign to my views of
>> ham radio.
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>> Certainly, I buy computers with Windows loaded, but I do not buy Icom
>> transceivers with D-Star loaded.  That is what is foreign to my view of
>> ham radio.
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>> Until someone comes up with an open source and free to use substitute
>> for the AMBE Codec that is owned by Digital Voice Systems, Inc., I will
>> not be using D-Star.
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>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
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>> On 4/28/2012 9:17 PM, Greg Troxel wrote:
>>> I would hope that Elecraft would not add D-Star support; I think it's
>>> against the spirit of amateur radio, and particularly contrary to the
>>> kit culture, to have an on-air specification that an individual amateur
>>> is precluded from implementing without obtaining a patent license.
>>>
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